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| 00:00.31 | NudeNurd | you guys know of a hardware diagnostics tool that is bootable, either CD or Floppy. I've got memtest86 and a hard drive scanning tool, but I was wondering if anyone knew of a 'kit' of tools all in one package...? |
| 00:00.38 | LoRez | tempo: you'd need about 110 racks with 8- 9-drive raid boxes in each. at the rated 600W per box, you'd need about 4400 amps of electricity |
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| 00:00.41 | cafuego | tempo: I have exactly no idea. Millions at least |
| 00:01.07 | david | hello |
| 00:01.09 | BikiniKill | so any suggestions besides rtfm which i've already done? |
| 00:01.13 | david | how do I resolve this problem? |
| 00:01.14 | david | Removing `diversion of /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xft/Xft.h to /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xft/Xft1.h by libxft-dev' |
| 00:01.15 | david | dpkg-divert: rename involves overwriting `/usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xft/Xft.h' with |
| 00:01.15 | david | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:01.15 | david | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libxft-dev_2.1.2-6_i386.deb (--install): |
| 00:01.15 | dpkg | david: You are moron #18 |
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| 00:01.25 | NudeNurd | hehehe |
| 00:01.35 | cafuego | !topicsmite david |
| 00:01.35 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon david. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 00:01.36 | Justin | !tell david about bts |
| 00:01.46 | tempo | LoRez, how much should that cost? |
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| 00:02.02 | LoRez | and that's not including the loss of efficiency from the UPSs nor the A/C requirements for roughly half a million watts of power being disapated |
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| 00:02.27 | cafuego | LoRez: Just make sure you build the sauna above it, not under it. |
| 00:02.33 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 00:02.48 | tempo | heh |
| 00:02.54 | Blissex | for petabyte storage: well, curretnly one GB of cheap disk costs wholesale about $1. Multiply that at least by ten to get a fully loaded cost, and you get $10m for a petabyte. |
| 00:02.56 | simonrvn | same goes for the housing ;) |
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| 00:03.33 | david | Justin: checked there, tells me to use dpkg, doesn't work |
| 00:03.33 | LoRez | tempo: let me put it this way, .5MW is enough juice for a small power station |
| 00:04.01 | cafuego | LoRez: Well, you could buy a small wind turbine and run the whole lot on that |
| 00:04.05 | tempo | LoRez, and a sauna:) |
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| 00:04.10 | simonrvn | good idea |
| 00:04.15 | tempo | cafuego, : p |
| 00:04.16 | LoRez | cafuego: if you could guarantee wind, yes =) |
| 00:04.31 | simonrvn | calgary :) |
| 00:04.38 | simonrvn | or, cowgary |
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| 00:04.39 | Crimson | I would train monkeys to replace the drives |
| 00:04.39 | cafuego | LoRez: there's be enough nerds swapping hdds, just make them eat beans and onions. |
| 00:04.50 | Crimson | They could scamper around the racks all day |
| 00:05.01 | LoRez | at that point, you start considering different facilities because of how close they are to power lines |
| 00:05.01 | cafuego | they you get wind AND methane (for the sauna) |
| 00:05.07 | tempo | Blissex, so ~ 10$ per gig then |
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| 00:05.27 | Blissex | tempo: that is probably a lowball estimate, but I think it could be done. |
| 00:05.28 | cafuego | LoRez: Plus it'd throw off GPS sats coz of the gravity distortion |
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| 00:06.30 | cafuego | e=mc^2, knowledge is power, power is energy, 1PB of data is heavy shit |
| 00:06.45 | cafuego | it might just implode |
| 00:06.52 | Crimson | THEIF |
| 00:07.19 | helix | itym THIEF |
| 00:07.30 | armandv | er... petabyte is how many terabyte??? |
| 00:07.38 | Amarande | heh |
| 00:07.44 | Amarande | one of the most common mispellings |
| 00:07.52 | Crimson | helix: <3 <3 acronyms |
| 00:07.59 | Arydon | 1024 or 1000, depending on who's doing the talking |
| 00:08.17 | Amarande | i think i've even seen a CD track listing and a computer game manual spell it 'theif' heh |
| 00:08.22 | cafuego | Then there's PB vs. PiB |
| 00:08.24 | Amarande | at least its not as bad as some other words |
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| 00:08.53 | LoRez | cafuego: nah, it's not physically that big. 1300 sq ft or so to give a 3 ft aisle between the racks |
| 00:08.56 | Amarande | like 'voluptuous', which sometimes I think I'm the only person -in the world- who knows how to spell right :> |
| 00:08.57 | armandv | thx |
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| 00:09.10 | tempo | thanks guys. i apprecaite the feedback |
| 00:09.10 | Crimson | volumptus |
| 00:09.14 | Amarande | well, me and every other four-time undefeated spelling bee champion, i guess |
| 00:09.26 | Crimson | Can we have an irc spelling bee? |
| 00:09.31 | cafuego | LoRez: That still costs a bit, unless you wanna house it someowhere in the middle of nowhere. |
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| 00:09.51 | Amarande | crimson, it's kinda hard to give the words over irc without spelling them to begin with. :> |
| 00:09.51 | Crimson | Amarande: Spell 'transmogrification' |
| 00:09.54 | Crimson | GO |
| 00:09.58 | Amarande | transmogrification |
| 00:10.00 | Amarande | heh |
| 00:10.04 | cafuego | soliloqui? |
| 00:10.06 | Crimson | you win the prize! |
| 00:10.10 | LoRez | cafuego: heh, maybe I should show you around Oklahoma sometime ;) |
| 00:10.12 | Amarande | soliloquy |
| 00:10.12 | helix | soliloquy |
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| 00:10.20 | cafuego | <heh> |
| 00:10.21 | Crimson | soliloquy? |
| 00:10.26 | opti | anyone able to get muine installed in unstable? There's a problem with a dependency from gnome-sharp. |
| 00:10.43 | Amarande | but then, i retired from spelling bees after eighth grade |
| 00:10.45 | cafuego | LoRez: Maybe.... but no way in hell. |
| 00:10.51 | Amarande | its nice to be able to know you retired from something undefeated. :> |
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| 00:11.05 | obake | solliouqy? |
| 00:11.24 | cafuego | Amarande: Especially useful if you never competed, hence you're always undefeated eh. |
| 00:11.30 | Crimson | Amarande: Spell pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis |
| 00:11.31 | Crimson | Go! |
| 00:11.45 | Amarande | ./k obake sorry, you lose |
| 00:11.46 | Amarande | lol |
| 00:12.00 | LoRez | Crimson: that's enough. |
| 00:12.17 | obake | :( |
| 00:12.22 | obake | haha :D |
| 00:12.33 | Blissex | tempo: i just checked on the Dell site for one of their RAID arrays. it comes to $15,000 for 14x144GB, or abou $7 per GB. Then you have to add environmental stuff, and if you buy 1petabyte it will cost you a lot less than retail. |
| 00:12.54 | cafuego | helix: you been learning portugese off the debconf website by any chance? |
| 00:12.56 | Amarande | heh |
| 00:13.03 | helix | cafuego: nah, i have a Real Book |
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| 00:13.11 | helix | with audio and everything |
| 00:13.13 | cafuego | Blissex: That's Dell, they SUCK. |
| 00:13.14 | Amarande | if i had $15,000, i'd get a car and an apartment, and maybe actually attract women better than I do now :> |
| 00:13.15 | Amarande | uh oh. |
| 00:13.17 | Amarande | dangit. |
| 00:13.17 | obake | Crimson: is that the weird disease that people who lives near volcanos have? |
| 00:13.18 | cafuego | helix: ooh err. |
| 00:13.22 | Amarande | now they're gonna take all my geek points away |
| 00:13.22 | Amarande | lol |
| 00:13.37 | cafuego | helix: I just noticed the debconf sit is for men only, it doesn't list 'obrigada' |
| 00:13.41 | Blissex | cafuego: Dell may suck, but they are a useful reference point. |
| 00:13.44 | helix | cafuego: i noticed that too |
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| 00:13.50 | BikiniKill | i want a car with a large engine and fins. |
| 00:13.57 | helix | cafuego: funny how that works eh? well, i guess there will only be about 10 women total probably.. |
| 00:14.00 | cafuego | helix: Gunna include it in the talk? :-) |
| 00:14.00 | BikiniKill | it must have fins. |
| 00:14.06 | helix | cafuego: i should ;) |
| 00:14.10 | Amarande | 'obrigada'? what's that? |
| 00:14.14 | helix | Amarande: 'thank you' |
| 00:14.22 | helix | Amarande: when said by a female.. |
| 00:14.28 | helix | obrigado is the male form |
| 00:14.29 | Amarande | in what language? |
| 00:14.32 | helix | portuguese |
| 00:14.34 | Amarande | oh |
| 00:14.35 | cafuego | Amarande: .. but only said by females. Otherwise it's 'obrigado' |
| 00:14.48 | phobo | Mozilla can't view xml-files, I "apt-search xml editor" and saw "Conglomerate", "Mlview" and "Docbook". Rings any bell? |
| 00:14.49 | cafuego | or more commonly, 'brigado' |
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| 00:15.17 | Blissex | phobo: Mozilla can view XML files all right, as XML files. As to XMl editors, there are loads of them. |
| 00:15.19 | sparr | what can i use to burn DVD ISOs in linux? xcdroast doesnt see them as valid tracks |
| 00:15.19 | obake | cafuego: how do you know that? lol |
| 00:15.30 | cafuego | obake: I listen... I learn :-) |
| 00:15.30 | helix | cafuego: the funny thing is that one of the debconf organizers is female.. |
| 00:15.34 | Blissex | phobo: for example, jEdit has pretty good XML editing mode. |
| 00:15.37 | obake | hmm |
| 00:15.58 | Blissex | sparr: you use either 'dvdrecord' or 'dvd+rw-tools'. |
| 00:16.00 | helix | phobo: you could use any editor (vim has nice syntax highlighting) |
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| 00:16.17 | TheManiacKy | Is there a Console based program I can run in a linux that doesn't have XWindows to rip a DVD and make it a Divx? |
| 00:16.25 | obake | cafuego: most stuff i listen i ignore. :-( |
| 00:16.30 | phobo | helix: Sure I can' butr then the special layout don't work...... |
| 00:16.31 | litage | out of the 14 ISOs for Sid, which ones are required for installation? |
| 00:16.40 | helix | phobo: what special layout? |
| 00:16.47 | BikiniKill | this is probably a futile question, but is there debian women's group/chan or something? |
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| 00:16.54 | Blissex | TheManiacKy: I suppose that 'dvd::rip' can do that in console mode. |
| 00:16.59 | helix | BikiniKill: no.. but there are women here. |
| 00:17.06 | phobo | helix: vim can only display it in text-mode |
| 00:17.09 | helix | BikiniKill: what's up? |
| 00:17.12 | cafuego | obake: Well, i my case I didn't know *any* pronounciation, so i *had* to listen and pick it up fast. |
| 00:17.15 | Blissex | litage: usually it is the first three. |
| 00:17.22 | TheManiacKy | Blissex: Do I need to search freshmeat for that or you know the addy? |
| 00:17.26 | helix | phobo: oh, right. isn't that the point of xml files? and then they're output to something else? |
| 00:17.30 | BikiniKill | i'm am one, and i'd like to talk to others |
| 00:17.39 | litage | Blissex: thanks. what's in the rest of the ISOs? just packages? |
| 00:17.40 | helix | BikiniKill: well, you can /msg me if you like - i'm female |
| 00:17.40 | BikiniKill | nothing special |
| 00:17.41 | cafuego | obake: "Sorry, I don't speak portugese, not even 'thank you'" gets a bit lame after an hour. |
| 00:17.41 | pfizur | litage: yes, first three but you could fudge it with a live network connection |
| 00:17.50 | obake | cafuego: haha :D |
| 00:17.56 | Blissex | litage: depends. Non essential packages and sources. |
| 00:18.14 | helix | cafuego: does it make a difference if you say 'eu nao falo portugues' do any better? |
| 00:18.17 | helix | err |
| 00:18.23 | helix | screw the end of that sentence |
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| 00:18.28 | Blissex | BikiniKill: if you are female user of Linux, probably you should have a look at the LinuxGrrll website. |
| 00:18.34 | BikiniKill | i don't live in nyc any more and i'm the only female in my local lug, so i was just wondering if there was #debian-girls or something ;-P |
| 00:18.37 | helix | Blissex: itym linuxchix.org |
| 00:18.46 | cafuego | helix: Nao falo portugues, fala voce engles? |
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| 00:19.00 | litage | thanks guys |
| 00:19.07 | cafuego | helix: No, still gets bloody annoying, especially after the 20th 'nao'. |
| 00:19.11 | helix | BikiniKill: well, there aren't really enough girls in here to justify such a thing. hop on irc.linuxchix.org and join #linuxchix if you want though, i'm also in there |
| 00:19.16 | BikiniKill | helix, i go on the linuxchix irc server sometimes |
| 00:19.22 | helix | BikiniKill: ah, ok :) |
| 00:19.28 | BikiniKill | i just have issues with it timing me out all the time |
| 00:19.36 | obake | aha |
| 00:19.46 | helix | BikiniKill: well, like i said, feel free to msg me anything - i'm part of the girl cabal ;P (and am the president of my lug so i know how you feel) |
| 00:19.46 | BikiniKill | i don't know whether it's because the server's in australia or what |
| 00:19.55 | BikiniKill | yay! |
| 00:19.57 | helix | BikiniKill: yeah, it does that. kind of a crap server. |
| 00:20.00 | obake | helix: hey, you talked about caipirinha some time ago, didn't you? |
| 00:20.01 | bowman | BikiniKill: Australian servers are lazy ;) |
| 00:20.06 | cafuego | helix: OI! |
| 00:20.08 | helix | obake: i asked what it was |
| 00:20.09 | Amarande | i should see if i can find a female linux user to marry. :> |
| 00:20.11 | helix | cafuego: heh |
| 00:20.17 | obake | hm |
| 00:20.20 | trman | i did update-alternatives to switch my wmanager to metacity, didn't work |
| 00:20.22 | helix | Amarande: yeah, you'd be the first one to do such a thing.. |
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| 00:20.27 | BikiniKill | thanks helix ;-) |
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| 00:20.49 | trman | now was checking the gnome help, it seems that if i tweak by hand the file |
| 00:20.49 | helix | BikiniKill: np, i can give you whatever info you need about finding other women (even the debian using ones..) :) |
| 00:20.59 | sussudio | helix: http://home.wanadoo.nl/sussudio/meepcam.jpg |
| 00:21.07 | Amarande | well, a geek such as me is probably best off married to another geek. :> |
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| 00:21.18 | helix | sussudio: dear god she's adorable. |
| 00:21.20 | helix | MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP |
| 00:21.31 | bowman | sussudio: that you? |
| 00:21.36 | trman | .gnome2/session the line where it metions the wmanager it should do it. question: is it safe? |
| 00:21.41 | redcliffe | hi - i've upgraded to 2.6 from 2.4 - now everything seems a lot more sluggish - sometimes the mouse is jerky and stuff under high load |
| 00:21.43 | Blissex | Amarande: yes, and suppose you like different distros or different editors -- bad tropuble. |
| 00:21.48 | redcliffe | anyone know what could be doing this? |
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| 00:21.52 | simonrvn | sussudio: too cute :) |
| 00:21.56 | cafuego | sussudio: Is that you new baby badger? |
| 00:22.01 | sussudio | helix: basically the only way to get her to sit still is put her on a dinnerplate and swish her around on it, she will sit still for about 10 seconds then |
| 00:22.17 | redcliffe | someone suggested on /. that maybe it's due to X being priority -10 |
| 00:22.19 | sussudio | cafuego: army of hampsters |
| 00:22.25 | cafuego | aiyee |
| 00:22.56 | helix | sussudio: hahaha |
| 00:23.36 | litage | so, any advice for someone trying out Debian for the first time? |
| 00:23.57 | bowman | litage: concerning which problem? |
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| 00:24.08 | pfizur | litage: back up your data and hope for the best |
| 00:24.20 | BikiniKill | litage, the securing debian manual has a lot of great info |
| 00:24.31 | stavrogin | is jhair here? msg me.... |
| 00:24.39 | litage | bowman: no problem in particular. just curious as to what to expect from Deb |
| 00:24.47 | litage | pfizur: hahah, "hope for the best"? |
| 00:24.50 | bowman | litage: only the best ;) |
| 00:24.52 | Arydon | litage: All the software you could ever need: type apt-cache search foo |
| 00:25.13 | litage | foo ?= some site? |
| 00:25.14 | bowman | litage: but be careful with existing data if you are new to installing, partitioning etc. |
| 00:25.14 | obake | sussudio: badgers.. hampsters... that's all the world is about |
| 00:25.18 | Segers_J | litage: please please please read the install manual. |
| 00:25.21 | Tolimar | litage: Have a good cup of coffee, take a comfortable seat, if you don't know, what to answer, just press enter. |
| 00:25.23 | pfizur | litage: Listen to Arydon, I'm a pessamist |
| 00:25.25 | Tolimar | Good luck. |
| 00:25.26 | pfizur | ...who can't spell |
| 00:25.43 | litage | bowman: yeah, i'm going to format so mandrake's completely gone |
| 00:26.12 | pfizur | litage: is mandrake your only exp with linux? |
| 00:26.17 | bowman | litage: I personally have never made any sort of backup, but it's nevertheless recommended. Try reading the appropriate Install Howto's and Manuals |
| 00:26.37 | Arydon | litage: Sorry; 'foo' means whatever you're looking for. apt-cache search mozilla, apt-cache search tuxracer, whatever |
| 00:26.39 | litage | pfizur: RH too, and some Solaris at school, but no admin stuff with Solaris |
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| 00:26.46 | pfizur | bowman is correct, the install howtos are great |
| 00:26.47 | litage | Arydon: ah cool |
| 00:26.57 | litage | thanks, i'll check those out |
| 00:27.05 | pfizur | follow them close and come here with any questions, guessing is a bad idae |
| 00:27.21 | bowman | pfizur: by the way I didn't read a single line of them, I just installed :-) |
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| 00:27.32 | bowman | but don't tell anyone *fg* |
| 00:27.39 | pfizur | :) |
| 00:27.54 | pfizur | I didn't either, but it took me like three days to get NAT up and running |
| 00:27.55 | charleston | hello.... what are people using to display PowerPoint files in Linux? |
