| 00:00.04 | rata_ | abrotman: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 apr 9 16:48 x-window-manager -> /usr/bin/metacity |
| 00:00.19 | abrotman | rata_: are you the only user? |
| 00:00.24 | tuxipuxi | night all |
| 00:00.37 | rata_ | abrotman: the only user it is call rodrigo |
| 00:00.48 | rata_ | abrotman: well, and the root, of course |
| 00:00.54 | abrotman | ok |
| 00:01.10 | abrotman | rata_: try changing it to fluxbox |
| 00:01.19 | rata_ | abrotman: ok |
| 00:01.20 | cafuego | fooz: /etc/rcS.d/S40iptables and /etc/rc6.d/K89iptables |
| 00:01.46 | fooz | cafuego, thanks |
| 00:01.57 | abrotman | rata_: ln -s /usr/bin/fluxbox /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager |
| 00:02.14 | goog | is there a package that installs the java plugin for mozilla? |
| 00:02.19 | rata_ | abrotman: ahhhh |
| 00:02.22 | cafuego | fooz: Shall we file a bug against iptables in sid re the missing init script? |
| 00:02.38 | fooz | cafuego, it always had warnings plastered all over it saying "DO NOT USE!!!" maybe they got rid of it |
| 00:02.58 | cafuego | fooz: Yeah.. but it's SO useful! |
| 00:03.07 | fooz | heh |
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| 00:03.34 | rata_ | abrotman: it says that the file exist |
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| 00:03.35 | cafuego | I don't want to have to use a retardo-gui for morons |
| 00:03.36 | Fire | Hello! |
| 00:03.46 | abrotman | rata_: man update-alternatives |
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| 00:03.52 | fooz | cafuego, well, i'm doing that :) sorta |
| 00:03.52 | Pupeno | what program may I use in the netinstall bussinescard sarge CD to test my firewall/router ? |
| 00:03.54 | Omnikrome | when you booted from it |
| 00:03.54 | fooz | fwbuilder isn't bad |
| 00:04.02 | Fire | I need help: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg exited unexpectedly |
| 00:04.05 | Fire | What can i do? |
| 00:04.14 | fooz | cafuego, iptables is really hard to figure out for me.. i came from an ipf background, which is really simple |
| 00:04.17 | Markit | anyone got problems with apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.4-1-k7? Tons of "WARNING: /lib/modules/modprobe.conf line 294: ignoring bad line starting with 'post-install'" |
| 00:04.26 | rata_ | abrotman: and now ??? |
| 00:04.37 | cafuego | fooz: Undoubtedly, but it's generally easier for me to type my 3 lines of firewall into a shell that run a whole gui. |
| 00:04.46 | abrotman | rata_: iirc .. update-alternatives x-window-manager /usr/bin/fluxbox |
| 00:04.51 | abrotman | err |
| 00:04.52 | mlawrence | i've recompiled a debian 2.6.4 kernel and my i810 based card drivers still do not load, is this card no longer supported in 2.6 or something? |
| 00:04.52 | abrotman | shit |
| 00:04.53 | StyXman | re: /etc/init.d/iptables... goddamm, it's free soft! let us use it if it suits our needs! |
| 00:04.56 | cafuego | s/that/than/ |
| 00:04.59 | fooz | cafuego, mine are a bit more complex |
| 00:05.00 | abrotman | rata_: iirc .. update-alternatives set x-window-manager /usr/bin/fluxbox |
| 00:05.19 | cafuego | fooz: The server ones here are scary, but the workstation ones are dead easy, using state matching. |
| 00:05.26 | rata_ | abrotman: like that in the console ?? |
| 00:05.33 | abrotman | yes |
| 00:05.39 | rata_ | abrotman: ok |
| 00:05.42 | Fire | I need help: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg exited unexpectedly <- help!!! :-) |
| 00:05.46 | StyXman | may be a deprecated should be built, just like there's a non-US... |
| 00:05.54 | fooz | cafuego, fwbuilder's nice cause it's like a drag and drop gui version of ipf. you have objects and you fill in blanks. you can put all your firewall definitions in one file, and compile/install them on all your machines with a click |
| 00:06.03 | Fire | This really important though.. |
| 00:06.28 | cafuego | fooz: I'll have a look at it, then. |
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| 00:06.34 | rata_ | abrotman: unknown argument x-window-manager |
| 00:06.34 | StyXman | Fire: tried a strace over it? do you have free space? did you test you ram? |
| 00:06.42 | abrotman | rata_: hmm .. |
| 00:06.49 | fooz | cafuego, it has a GUI firewall builder, and then it has backend compilers for iptables, cisco pix, pf, ipf |
| 00:06.54 | Fire | StyXman: FRee space - About 10 Gb. |
| 00:07.00 | cafuego | though i SO won't be building firewall rules remotely on ANY box ever... did that once, forgot a pass rule.. all bad :-) |
| 00:07.06 | Fire | How to test zhe ran, StyXman? |
| 00:07.16 | iLLf8d | can someone help me out with samba issues? |
| 00:07.29 | Sultrix | whats the eHey guys I have just been looking at www.gnome.org and gnome 2.6 looks rather nice.. im an xfce4 man myself and would like to run gnome 2.6 im currently running Debian Sid, what is the easiest way to go about installing gnome 2.6? |
| 00:07.31 | StyXman | Fire: unluckly, you need to install memtest86 |
| 00:07.34 | cafuego | ouch, 10mb |
| 00:07.37 | fooz | cafuego, what I do is make a script, try these rules, sleep 10 seconds, load old ones |
| 00:07.41 | Pupeno | StyXman: what mirror do you recomend to install unstable in Buenos Aires, Argentina (ADSL, Arnet) |
| 00:07.42 | iLLf8d | my paste is a longass line or i'd dump it in here |
| 00:07.44 | smacnay_ | whatever happened to the ncurses app "burncenter" - I think it did all sorts of things to offer f-e to burning music and data cd's. |
| 00:07.44 | Fire | StyXman: "unlucky" ? |
| 00:07.46 | iLLf8d | ? |
| 00:07.48 | abrotman | rata_: i forget how to use it |
| 00:07.53 | Omnikrome | exscuse me is there a site of a guide somewhere thaty discusses all of the basic commands and file structures etc |
| 00:07.53 | Pupeno | well, or any other argentinian that knows about it. |
| 00:07.54 | fooz | cafuego, and I just hit enter while it's running.. if that works, it means at least my ssh connection is still up.. that's good enough for me |
| 00:07.58 | abrotman | rata_: rm /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager |
| 00:08.02 | StyXman | Fire: er, unluckly |
| 00:08.03 | rata_ | abrotman: you do not use x ? |
| 00:08.03 | abrotman | rata_: ln -s /usr/bin/fluxbox /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager |
| 00:08.04 | Omnikrome | in normal everyday terms |
| 00:08.11 | Fire | StyXman: Why? *g* |
| 00:08.17 | fooz | cafuego, my 'fix' script after the sleep just flushes all filter and nat rules and chains |
| 00:08.17 | abrotman | rata_: i use X |
| 00:08.23 | abrotman | rata_: try those two lines |
| 00:08.33 | rata_ | abrotman: ok |
| 00:08.47 | cafuego | libxslt1_1.1.4-1_i386.deb 404 Not Found - maybe not today |
| 00:08.51 | StyXman | Pupeno: I don't know mirrors in .ar besides of uni's ones... |
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| 00:09.05 | StyXman | Fire: because it'll need dpkg for installing... |
| 00:09.07 | fooz | cafuego, what mirror do you use? |
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| 00:09.17 | Fire | StyXman: with apt-get? - dpkg exited unexpectedly |
| 00:09.31 | Fire | StyXman: Yes.. What should i do then? |
| 00:09.31 | fooz | cafuego, ftp.debian.org ones seem to always be missing files, i use kernel.org |
| 00:09.34 | rata_ | abrotman: wiii, it does not tell me anithing! |
| 00:09.34 | Pupeno | ok, started with a brazilian mirror, the only one listed as argentinian mirror doesn't respond. |
| 00:09.39 | StyXman | Pupeno: mtr ftp.grulic.org.ar and see if it fits you |
| 00:09.42 | abrotman | rata_: it wont |
| 00:09.56 | abrotman | rata_: ls -l /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager |
| 00:10.14 | StyXman | Pupeno: where's suppossed to be ours? |
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| 00:10.43 | rata_ | yes it says fluxbox now! |
| 00:10.47 | StyXman | Fire: that error appears on any instalation? |
| 00:10.54 | abrotman | rata_: now .. /etc/init.d/xdm restart |
| 00:10.57 | abrotman | and then try logging in |
| 00:11.39 | Fire | This is really really important to fix my dpkg problem :-( |
| 00:11.42 | rata_ | abrotman: error |
| 00:11.44 | rata_ | :-( |
| 00:11.46 | StyXman | Fire: I know |
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| 00:11.55 | abrotman | rata_: error? |
| 00:12.06 | rata_ | now i am restarting x, to see if i can... |
| 00:12.07 | StyXman | Fire: did you checked it the pkg is ok? |
| 00:12.10 | StyXman | Fire: if not |
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| 00:12.17 | rata_ | abrotman: error too, :-((( |
| 00:12.34 | abrotman | error? |
| 00:12.46 | rata_ | yes, it says... |
| 00:13.02 | StyXman | Fire: use 'cd /; md5sum -c /var/lib/dpkg/info/dpkg... |
| 00:13.04 | StyXman | ow |
| 00:13.07 | rata_ | extra argument in command line |
| 00:13.11 | rata_ | extra argument in command line |
| 00:13.21 | StyXman | where's dpkg md5sums? |
| 00:13.29 | Fire | hmmmm |
| 00:13.31 | abrotman | rata_: what happens if you /etc/init.d/xdm stop .. |
| 00:13.37 | abrotman | rata_: and then just "startx" |
| 00:13.39 | Fire | StyXman: On any, yes. |
| 00:13.46 | rata_ | abrotman: error too |
| 00:13.49 | sexton | I have a basic question about debian installs, if anyone has time. |
| 00:13.56 | Fire | StyXman: Can i open a private talk with you? |
| 00:14.03 | StyXman | sexton: fire away |
| 00:14.10 | StyXman | Fire: sure |
| 00:14.14 | abrotman | error? .. wtf |
| 00:14.25 | abrotman | rata_: same error? |
| 00:14.38 | sexton | StyXman: I need to install debian using a kernel module that is not included on the install cd. |
| 00:14.41 | rata_ | abrotman: yes, but an other (pid |
| 00:14.45 | rata_ | abrotman: yes, but an other (pid) |
| 00:14.47 | abrotman | yeah |
| 00:14.48 | StyXman | sexton: it's complicated |
| 00:15.12 | sexton | StyXman: well, I don't have much choice, is there a resource I should be reading? |
| 00:15.20 | nicholas | I upgraded today and mozilla is crashing a lot. I upgrade nearly daily and mozilla was last upgraded on Apr. 2, but hasn't started crashing until today. A case that *always* makes it crash is www.acmqueue.com, but it can crash at any time (scrolling on /. for example). Has anyone else encountered this? |
| 00:15.37 | StyXman | I remember doint it by changing thinks in the diskettes and the server |
| 00:15.48 | StyXman | sexton: if you wait for me... |
| 00:15.57 | abrotman | rata_: whats the error again? |
| 00:16.24 | sexton | StyXman: sure thing... |
| 00:16.43 | rata_ | abrotman: wait, let me see aa thing |
| 00:16.51 | abrotman | aa thing? |
| 00:17.12 | StyXman | sexton: first: take a debian machine |
| 00:17.30 | StyXman | sexton: download the disks |
| 00:17.45 | sexton | StyXman: o.k. |
| 00:17.58 | sexton | StyXman: the install floppies? |
| 00:18.02 | rata_ | abrotman: nope... |
| 00:18.06 | rata_ | abrotman: the error is... |
| 00:18.14 | StyXman | sexton: yeap |
| 00:18.25 | StyXman | sexton: then compile the kernel you want |
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| 00:18.39 | rata_ | date xdm error (pid 1733) extra argument on command line |
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| 00:18.45 | sexton | StyXman: I see where you are going here... |
| 00:18.45 | rata_ | abrotman: and |
| 00:18.59 | StyXman | sexton: be sure you put in anything youĺl need in the installe machine |
| 00:19.03 | abrotman | rata_: is this woody or sid? |
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| 00:19.12 | rata_ | abrotman: the same, but "restart" |
| 00:19.15 | rata_ | Sarge |
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| 00:19.19 | StyXman | sexton: yes, you need to swap the kernel in that disk |
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| 00:19.37 | slinkyredfoot | ok, are we still using apt, or have we switched to aptitude? |
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| 00:19.41 | sexton | StyXman: why, how painful. |
| 00:19.54 | abrotman | rata_: i guess you could try reinstalling xdm,gdm,fluxbox |
| 00:19.57 | StyXman | sexton: is the way I got it to work... |
| 00:20.03 | sexton | StyXman: isn't there an install CD somewhere that just compiles all the drivers? |
| 00:20.03 | abrotman | but i dont think its gonna change anything |
| 00:20.25 | StyXman | sexton: I don think so... |
| 00:20.25 | rata_ | abrotman: so.. if it does not work, i reinstall debian ? |
| 00:20.33 | DrPete | i hate dependenies |
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| 00:20.50 | sexton | StyXman: seems like that should just be a rule. I mean, it's a CD. Should be no biggie to select all the drivers when they build the kernel, right? Oh, well. |
| 00:20.57 | abrotman | rata_: no .. you purge X .. then reinstall that |
| 00:21.09 | abrotman | you purge X related stuff |
| 00:21.12 | rata_ | abrotman: and how i make that ? |
| 00:21.15 | slinkyredfoot | are we still using apt, or have we switched to aptitude? |
| 00:21.19 | StyXman | sexton: the problem is that even it's a cd, the bott image is a floppy's one. |
| 00:21.36 | rata_ | slinkyredfoot: a mix! |
| 00:21.47 | StyXman | sexton: wait |
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| 00:22.00 | slinkyredfoot | rata_: can you offer an example? |
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| 00:22.23 | rata_ | slinkyredfoot: i install with apt, and unistall some thing, with aptitude |
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| 00:22.27 | slinkyredfoot | rata_: i always use apt, so what conditions warrant aptitude? |
| 00:23.00 | slinkyredfoot | rata_: ok |
| 00:23.00 | rata_ | slinkyredfoot: aptitude, it easier to remove things that do not serve |
| 00:23.14 | rata_ | abrotman: how do i make that ? |
| 00:23.26 | StyXman | sexton: what problem you have with the original disks? |
| 00:23.38 | StyXman | sexton: what does not detect? |
| 00:23.51 | sexton | StyXman I'm trying to get megaraid.o going. |
| 00:23.52 | rata_ | abrotman: be right back |
| 00:23.57 | abrotman | rata_: ok |
| 00:24.00 | tears | anybody using xorg? |
| 00:24.05 | gbdrbob | I'm trying to load a module at boot but I need to execute a command after it has loaded - I've added the module name to /etc/modules and added a post-install line for the module to modules.conf via update-modules - the module loads a t boot but the post-install command isn't run, do I need to add a separate boot script to run the command? |
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| 00:24.32 | rata_ | abrotman: ready |
| 00:24.33 | sexton | StyXman: The install cd's don't see it, and I know the hardware works because I just installed redhat on this box last week. |
| 00:24.38 | rata_ | abrotman: how do i make that ? |
| 00:24.38 | StyXman | sexton: so the drivers in the 4 supp disks don; work? |
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| 00:24.58 | StyXman | sexton: you using bf2.4? |
| 00:25.00 | gbdrbob | If anyone can help I'd greatly appreciate it :-) |
| 00:25.06 | sexton | StyXman: Well, for some reason the install CD's can't read the floppy. I haven't figured that one out. |
| 00:25.07 | abrotman | rata_: are you on broadband? |
| 00:25.24 | StyXman | sexton: which floppy? |
| 00:25.24 | madmardigan | alguien que hable español? |
| 00:25.32 | rata_ | abrotman: broadband = conected 24 hours ? |
| 00:25.44 | rata_ | abrotman: be right back! |
| 00:25.50 | abrotman | rata_: broadband ... dsl,cable,T1,etc |
| 00:25.51 | sexton | StyXman : just a sec, checking on that. |
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| 00:26.50 | rootking | does anyone know if there is a krb5-devel package for debian. This is the Kerberose software, which I need to join my Debian machine to a Windows 2000 domain |
| 00:27.11 | cafuego | rootking: apt-cache search |
| 00:27.36 | abrotman | rootking: libkrb5-dev ? |
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| 00:28.44 | DrPete | I am trying to do a backport, bulding dependencies from teh src, but its taking ages, is there a way to compile a package from src and automaticall get the deps |
| 00:28.47 | orchid | hello, does sshd have its own log files on debian? I am having scp connections dropped and cannot see anything in /var/log to do with sshd |
| 00:28.51 | rootking | could be abrotman |
| 00:28.53 | sexton | StyXman : /debian/dists/stable/main/disks-i386/current/images-1.44/driver-X.bin |
| 00:29.03 | StyXman | rootking: AFAIK win2k does not use kerb5 but a slightly different proto |
| 00:29.05 | rata_ | abrotman: yes i have |
| 00:29.14 | rootking | http://insight.zdnet.co.uk/software/developer/0,39020469,2122363,00.htm |
| 00:29.20 | rootking | abrotman |
| 00:29.23 | abrotman | rata_: apt-get --purge xdm gdm fluxbox xserver-xfree86 |
| 00:29.41 | abrotman | rata_: but that will probably remove a ton of stuff |
| 00:29.43 | rata_ | abrotman: --purge, remove or install ?? |
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| 00:29.51 | abrotman | rata_: if you want to reinstall |
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| 00:29.58 | rootking | SyxMan: I'm just trying to get my debian server to join my AD domain |
| 00:30.01 | abrotman | rata_: apt-get --reinstall install xdm gdm fluxbox |
| 00:30.04 | rootking | found that website |
| 00:30.14 | rootking | those were the packages recommended |
| 00:30.39 | StyXman | rootking: zanx |
| 00:30.44 | rata_ | abrotman: so, apt-get --reinstal instal xdm gdm fluxbox xserver-sfree86 ???' |
| 00:30.52 | rata_ | like that in the console ? |
| 00:31.16 | abrotman | rata_: you can try it .. but im not sure its going to change anything |
| 00:31.28 | rootking | zanx? |
| 00:31.39 | rata_ | abrotman: an if it doesn change ? |
| 00:31.42 | StyXman | rootking: thanks, I needed something like that |
| 00:31.46 | rata_ | abrotman: reiinstall debian ??? |
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| 00:32.04 | StyXman | 5 months late, but better late then never |
| 00:32.19 | rootking | StyxMan: you are trying to do this also |
| 00:32.25 | abrotman | rata_: you *should* never have to reinstall debian |
| 00:32.31 | StyXman | yes, 5 months ago :( |
| 00:32.41 | rootking | not now? |
| 00:32.45 | rootking | did you solve? |
| 00:32.51 | toltas | abrotman: what if you wanna go from unstable->stable? |
| 00:32.52 | rata_ | abrotman: and so what ? |
| 00:32.55 | rootking | did you see that website i listed? |
| 00:32.57 | StyXman | rootking: used winbind to share user definitions |
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| 00:33.07 | abrotman | toltas: then you're an idiot :) |
| 00:33.15 | StyXman | didn't knew that kerberos existed for that till 2 days before job end |
| 00:33.22 | abrotman | rata_: try to reinstall those packages first |
| 00:33.29 | gbdrbob | the problem seems to be that the module is loaded before the file system is mounted |
| 00:33.34 | rata_ | abrotman: ok |
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| 00:34.13 | rootking | styxman: wait job end? |
| 00:34.22 | toltas | abrotman: still, it is the only time you wanna reinstall |
| 00:34.24 | ashieh | erk, my latest apt-get upgrade exploded my KDE installation. gdm restarts in an infinite loop, all kde apps (kdesktop, etc) die with signal 11, etc. any one know where I can get at the relevant system logs to debug this stuff? |
| 00:34.25 | StyXman | yeap, I finished that on dec 23 |
| 00:34.39 | rootking | oh contract worl; |
| 00:34.46 | StyXman | yeap |
| 00:35.02 | abrotman | toltas: but with his problem .. he wants to reinstall debian .. to go from sarge to sarge :) |
| 00:35.17 | rata_ | abrotman: equal.... |
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| 00:35.25 | abrotman | rata? |
| 00:35.30 | steven | does somebody have an example of php menu |
| 00:35.35 | rata_ | abrotman: what ? |
| 00:35.40 | abrotman | steven: php menu? |
| 00:35.46 | abrotman | rata_: you said equal ? |
| 00:36.01 | rootking | so you used winbind hmmm.. |
| 00:36.02 | rata_ | abrotman: yes, it does not change... i could not log in |
| 00:36.10 | StyXman | rootking: yeap |
| 00:36.19 | abrotman | rata_: try stopping xdm .. try starting gdm |
| 00:36.22 | StyXman | it's ugly like my father's butt |
| 00:36.32 | rata_ | abrotman: yes, i try gdm |
| 00:36.34 | StyXman | I mean, no single sign on |
| 00:36.39 | steven | abrotman: like menus that collaps and expans |
| 00:36.41 | rata_ | abrotman: and i coul not initialize xdm |
| 00:36.43 | steven | *expand |
| 00:36.53 | abrotman | rata_: i dont know why gdm wants to start xdm |
| 00:37.00 | abrotman | rata_: dpkg-reconfigure xdm .. pick gdm .. |
| 00:37.11 | abrotman | steven: you mean with javascript? |
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| 00:37.32 | rata_ | abrotman: yes i choose gdm as default |
| 00:37.32 | steven | abrotman: bujt there is a way to do it with php |
| 00:37.40 | abrotman | rata_: sorry .. pick xdm |
| 00:37.51 | rata_ | abrotman: ok |
| 00:37.52 | troubled | steven: no |
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| 00:37.52 | abrotman | steven: you mean like dropdowns? |
| 00:38.12 | steven | abrotman: yes like that |
| 00:38.14 | troubled | steven: browsers dont understand php, they understand javascript and html |
| 00:38.14 | rata_ | abrotman: should i restart ? |
| 00:38.21 | rata_ | abrotman: should i reboot? |
| 00:38.33 | abrotman | rata_: you should restart xdm |
| 00:38.35 | troubled | steven: you mean how could you do it using php for dynamic menu text? |
| 00:38.57 | rata_ | but i cant, i will reboot, ok ? |
| 00:39.02 | rata_ | abrotman |
| 00:39.04 | abrotman | ok |
| 00:39.16 | abrotman | at least his X works :) |
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| 00:39.35 | abrotman | steven: do you have an example of what you want? |
| 00:40.15 | rootking | what is winbind? is that commercial or open source |
| 00:40.27 | keem | how can i convert png to svg? |
| 00:40.32 | StyXman | rootking: comes with samba |
| 00:40.42 | rootking | oh |
| 00:40.54 | abrotman | keem: sodipodi? .. dunno |
| 00:41.21 | steven | abrotman: yes www.granville.k12.oh.us |
| 00:41.53 | ashieh | keem: convert doesn't handle that? and why do you want to go from raster to vector? |
| 00:41.55 | rootking | so do you do private contract work? |
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| 00:42.14 | StyXman | rootking: kind of |
| 00:42.15 | ricochet | is there a way to mount a .bin file? (i am guessing this is a cd image?) |
| 00:42.23 | abrotman | steven: .... you probably do that with a database |
| 00:42.34 | StyXman | rootking: now I'm finishing my thesis |
| 00:42.42 | StyXman | rootking: so not much work now |
| 00:42.43 | abrotman | ricochet: over loopback |
| 00:42.47 | steven | abrotman: do you know where i can find an example of that |
| 00:43.00 | abrotman | steven: maybe phpbuilder.com .. or ask in #php |
| 00:43.17 | rootking | hmm... so Styxman would you recommend using this winbind |
| 00:43.22 | nvz | well I was watching `Banned From The Bible |
| 00:43.29 | StyXman | rootking: I don't know |
| 00:43.34 | nvz | but wasnt nearly as interesting as I thought it would be ;-/ |
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| 00:43.41 | abrotman | nvz: whats it about? |
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| 00:43.47 | rootking | Thesis hmmm... |
| 00:43.51 | StyXman | rootking: I mean, depends on what kind of setup is the win2k part |
| 00:43.55 | abrotman | rata_: anythingwork? |
| 00:43.56 | ricochet | abrotman, is that a question? you can mount a .iso, so I thought maybe a .bin too |
| 00:43.59 | rata_ | abrotman : it works!!!!!!!!!11 |
| 00:44.05 | abrotman | rata_: yay |
| 00:44.06 | rata_ | abrotman : i am using fluxbox!!! |
| 00:44.17 | nvz | abrotman: about basically how the new testament came to be, and about the texts selected, and those left out, like the Book Of Jubilees |
| 00:44.20 | abrotman | ricochet: ... i think you can mount iso over loopback device |
| 00:44.24 | rata_ | abrotman : you are a genius! |
| 00:44.31 | rata_ | abrotman : LOT of thanks |
| 00:44.35 | nvz | abrotman: needless to say I am ready for sleep now |
| 00:44.36 | abrotman | rata_: im not a genius .. im crazy .. |
| 00:44.48 | abrotman | nvz: im watching atlantis:milo returns ;) |
| 00:44.59 | abrotman | rata_: glad i could help .. err .. i htnk i helped :) |
| 00:45.00 | rata_ | abrotman : for the knowdlege, time and patience (sorry for my english i am from argentina) |
| 00:45.03 | StyXman | rootking: yeap, thesis. a DFS |
| 00:45.10 | pshaggy | which illustrator-like project is the current "best of breed" on linux? |
| 00:45.16 | abrotman | rata_: ah .. i like rodizio :) |
| 00:45.17 | rata_ | abrotman : LOT _LOT_ LOT of thanks |
| 00:45.17 | rootking | DFS=Distributed File System ? |
| 00:45.23 | abrotman | but i guess thats brazilian huh? |
| 00:45.24 | StyXman | rootking: yeap |
| 00:45.44 | rata_ | abrotman : jejej |
| 00:45.48 | abrotman | rata_: its ok.. thats why we're here .. to help . and luckily you weren't all mean and nasty :) |
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| 00:45.52 | nvz | abrotman: I was expecting some juicy secrets that the church officials didnt want anyone to hear, and the most stunning I heard in the past 40min was that Kane married his sister ooh no! .. |
| 00:45.55 | StyXman | rata_: .ar you too? |
| 00:46.00 | abrotman | nvz: ever see stigmata? |
| 00:46.05 | nvz | abrotman: yeap |
| 00:46.09 | abrotman | thats a great movie |
| 00:46.15 | rata_ | StyXman: what ??? |
| 00:46.24 | nvz | abrotman: yeah I dont have that one, however I do have Dogma |
| 00:46.27 | StyXman | rata_: are you from argentina too? |
| 00:46.33 | abrotman | nvz: same calibur :) |
| 00:46.42 | rata_ | StyXman: Si man!, de que parte sos ? |
| 00:46.47 | keem | when will gnome 2.6 take a trip to unstable/testing? |
| 00:46.47 | StyXman | cba |
| 00:46.55 | abrotman | keem: /msg dpkg gnome2.6 |
| 00:46.57 | rata_ | StyXman: yo Buenos Aires |
| 00:46.58 | nvz | rata_: Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda |
| 00:47.18 | rata_ | nvz: ;-) |
| 00:47.18 | abrotman | slinkyredfoot: kind of kinky huh :) |
| 00:47.21 | ashieh | has anyone tried updating to kde-3.1.2? i'm quite disappointed. kdm takes 10x longer to start up, and the kde applications don't work anymore. |
| 00:47.22 | nvz | rata_: we speak english in #debian if you wish to stay I suggest you do the same |
| 00:47.24 | gbdrbob | Does anyone have a minute to help me with a module loading problem? |
| 00:47.28 | StyXman | rata_: they don't like when someone talks in anything but english, here |
| 00:47.39 | rata_ | nvz: ok, sorry |
| 00:47.45 | StyXman | rata_: for a second I thought you were my brother :) |
| 00:47.52 | rata_ | nvz: jejejeje |
| 00:47.54 | abrotman | StyXman: cause there are channels for language specific debian help |
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| 00:48.06 | StyXman | abrotman: I know |
| 00:48.15 | nvz | StyXman: could it be because IRC is a more serious chat protocol for more serious chatters who chat about specific topics in specific languages? |
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| 00:48.25 | bghfhfg | !confuse mishu |
| 00:48.26 | dpkg | yes, where is my pineapple yesterday, mishu ? by order of the republic of liechtenstein with extra anchovis |
| 00:48.27 | abrotman | StyXman: and who knows .. you could be saying mean stuff about me in spanish |
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| 00:48.45 | abrotman | StyXman: and all i remember from spanish class is "donde esta el bano" :) |
| 00:48.46 | StyXman | okokoko |
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| 00:48.55 | abrotman | StyXman: and a few words that i shouldn't repeat :) |
| 00:48.57 | nvz | abrotman: the voices in my head are saying bad things about you! muwhahaha.. j/k |
| 00:48.58 | StyXman | I was not ... er.. complaining on the language |
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| 00:49.05 | StyXman | s/on/about/ |
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| 00:49.07 | abrotman | nvz: so do my voices :) |
| 00:49.10 | rata_ | hey, we are sorry(at list me), and we do not repeat that... |
| 00:49.18 | StyXman | I was just explainin rata_ |
| 00:49.22 | rata_ | we never try to offend |
| 00:49.22 | abrotman | rata_: its ok |
| 00:49.35 | rata_ | (be right back) |
| 00:50.02 | sollust | good evening, folks on the east coast! |
| 00:50.05 | nvz | rata_: yeah if you speak english and wish to stay we are not throwing you out, we just prefer that you speak english so that if we have to see the conversation we can follow it |
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| 00:50.13 | ricochet | abrotman, i was thinking.. mount -o loop,ro -t iso9660 ./file.bin /mnt/iso |
| 00:50.29 | abrotman | ricochet: i dont know exactly how to do it |
| 00:50.37 | sollust | I've got an apt-get dependency problem w/ libxft-dev |
| 00:50.39 | abrotman | ricochet: but my understanding is via loopback |
| 00:50.43 | sollust | I can't upgrade for some reason |
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| 00:50.49 | PhatTaco | how do you run ALSA in debian? |
| 00:51.08 | rata_ | nvz: ok ;-) |
| 00:51.08 | abrotman | !tell PhatTaco about alsa |
| 00:51.09 | nvz | PhatTaco: I turn on my PC, and it runs automatically |
| 00:51.13 | abrotman | !tell PhatTaco about alsa tutorial |
| 00:51.13 | sollust | PhatTaco: isn't ALSA a kernel module? |
| 00:51.23 | Hackel | Best cheap linux web hosting provider in 5 seconds.......GO! |
| 00:51.24 | abrotman | sollust: in 2.6 .. in 2.4 it requires extra work |
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| 00:51.27 | nvz | PhatTaco: but how I do it probably wont answer your real question |
| 00:51.32 | sollust | abrotman: ah... |
| 00:51.33 | sussudio | Hackel: you go. |
| 00:51.33 | abrotman | Hackel: my own :) |
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| 00:51.47 | sollust | can anyone assist with an apt-get upgrade problem? |
| 00:51.52 | sussudio | sollust: no. |
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| 00:51.55 | Hackel | abrotman: hehe, what's that? |
| 00:51.55 | abrotman | sollust: errors? |
| 00:51.59 | nvz | sussudio: I think he's going to need a push (or a /kick) to get him started |
| 00:52.01 | abrotman | Hackel: my own :) |
| 00:52.12 | Hackel | abrotman: I mean, what's the domain! :-P |
| 00:52.17 | sollust | sussudio: my poblem is that I get this error on my apt-get upgrade...(see #flood) |
| 00:52.22 | abrotman | Hackel: i have linux accounts all over the place |
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| 00:52.40 | abrotman | Hackel: are you just looking for a linux hosting company? |
| 00:52.56 | Hackel | abrotman: Ah, I thought you were saying you ran your own hosting provider.. // Yes. There are too many options to wade through on google. |
| 00:53.24 | ricochet | Hackel, i am very happy with serverbeach.com (rackspace cousin) |
| 00:53.24 | abrotman | Hackel: try narrowing it down .. i mean on google .. not here .. but look for a DB you want.. PHP if you want it .. etc |
| 00:53.26 | tears | wadey: GPG error: http://non-us.debian.org unstable/non-US Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY B629A24C38C6029A << Any ideas |
| 00:53.26 | sollust | but then there is the following problem: (see flood) |
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| 00:53.58 | Hackel | abrotman: Yes, I know, I was just hoping for a few quick suggestions from people here (who I trust more than their own ads).... |
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| 00:54.24 | abrotman | Hackel: considered colo? |
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| 00:54.28 | PhatTaco | i installed the packages for ALSA and they work fine just OSS gets started up first. how do i stop it? |
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| 00:54.40 | sollust | okay...so it's all there now. |
| 00:54.40 | abrotman | PhatTaco: stop loading the module .. modconf |
| 00:54.41 | rata_ | abrotman: you do not know how thanks i am |
| 00:54.50 | abrotman | rata_: im glad we could help .. glad it works |
| 00:54.54 | abrotman | glad you didn't have to reinstall :) |
| 00:54.54 | rata_ | abrotman: LOT lOT of thanks |
| 00:55.02 | sollust | sussudio: i pasted all my shell message in flood |
| 00:55.05 | Hackel | abrotman: Hehe, no. "cheap" was a big factor in this. :) It's actually for someone else--I haven't looked at the options in ages since I host my own stuff on my computer. ;) |
| 00:55.08 | abrotman | rata_: just tell all your friends that Debian rules :) |
| 00:55.09 | nvz | rata_: lot of thanks, is being thankful |
| 00:55.15 | vinay | anybody here running athlon 64 in 32bit mode with nvidia 32bit drivers successfully? |
| 00:55.29 | abrotman | vinay: #debian-amd64 |
| 00:55.31 | rata_ | abrotman: i am more glad knowing that people help |
| 00:55.43 | vinay | abrotman: thanks :) |
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| 00:55.46 | abrotman | rata_: theres 650+ people .. hopefully someone would help :) |
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| 00:56.02 | rata_ | abrotman: yes, 2 friends of mine, are installing ;-) |
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| 00:56.06 | Unbeliever | over half the people in here are bots |
| 00:56.11 | abrotman | rata_: and tell your mom too :) |
| 00:56.12 | nvz | !person |
| 00:56.12 | dpkg | it has been said that person is like a bot, but squishier |
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| 00:56.23 | abrotman | !bot |
| 00:56.24 | dpkg | I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse). |
| 00:56.24 | flugh | <reply>silly, i am not a bot |
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| 00:56.32 | rata_ | abrotman: hehe, and now i will buy a shirt |
| 00:56.38 | abrotman | shirt? |
| 00:56.41 | abrotman | they have shirts? |
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| 00:56.45 | nvz | Unbeliever: whats the difference? |
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| 00:56.55 | rata_ | abrotman: or T-shirts, do not know... |
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| 00:57.01 | rootking | does anyone have a good howto on joining a Samba server to an Windows 2000 domain? |
| 00:57.02 | abrotman | rata_: where? |
| 00:57.06 | mak | Hello, where can I change the login message? the one that starts with "Most of the programs included with the Debian GNU/Linux system are..."e |
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| 00:57.17 | abrotman | rootking: is there a #samba that could help you more? |
| 00:57.23 | rata_ | abrotman: a LUG have its own shirts/t-shirts of debian rules, and gni |
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| 00:57.43 | abrotman | rata_: oh .. thats cool |
| 00:57.48 | rata_ | abrotman: yes! |
| 00:57.54 | sodre | mak:/etc/issue[.net] |
| 00:58.02 | rata_ | abrotman: but it is only avaiable in argentina ;-( |
| 00:58.05 | rata_ | :-( |
| 00:58.06 | abrotman | oh well |
| 00:58.13 | rata_ | (be right back) |
| 00:58.21 | mak | sodre nope |
| 00:58.25 | mak | issue.net only has tail issue.net |
| 00:58.26 | mak | Debian GNU/%s 3.0 %h |
| 00:58.38 | mak | so does issue |
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| 00:58.55 | sodre | mak: humm.. that's new. |
| 00:59.03 | rata_ | (ready) |
| 00:59.09 | PhatTaco | whre is modconf? |
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| 00:59.19 | abrotman | PhatTaco: its a tool .. use it as root |
| 00:59.21 | mak | Is not actually :P |
| 00:59.30 | iLLf8d | anyone know the correct path for smbpasswd set passwords (ie the file it writes too and the path it belongs in)? |
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| 01:00.04 | PhatTaco | no, i mean when i type it in apparently it doesnt exist |
| 01:00.08 | sodre | make |
| 01:00.09 | RoNiS | hi, I in my local network (2 PCs) my was 10.0.0.141 but i have formated the other so my pass to 10.0.0.139, does anyone know how i can fix it? |
| 01:00.11 | abrotman | PhatTaco: are you using debian? |
| 01:00.11 | sodre | mak:motd |
| 01:00.15 | PhatTaco | yes |
| 01:00.20 | abrotman | PhatTaco: then it should be there |
| 01:00.24 | sodre | mak: That's what I was looking for. |
| 01:00.29 | mak | That's the one |
| 01:00.31 | PhatTaco | well its not |
| 01:00.31 | mak | Thanks |
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| 01:00.39 | abrotman | PhatTaco: /usr/sbin/modconf on my box |
| 01:00.44 | PhatTaco | tried it |
| 01:01.07 | abrotman | PhatTaco: i have no idea how you're using debian without that |
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| 01:01.12 | abrotman | PhatTaco: uname -r |
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| 01:01.25 | abrotman | rootking: are you in philly? |
| 01:01.34 | PhatTaco | 2.4.25-1-386 |
| 01:01.40 | Unbeliever | http://www.subservientchicken.com/ |
| 01:01.48 | abrotman | PhatTaco: i have no idea how you have no modconf |
| 01:02.11 | abrotman | PhatTaco: try to apt-get install modconf |
| 01:03.00 | abrotman | rata_: you really shouldn't do that :) |
| 01:03.08 | PhatTaco | heh, i actually didnt have it! |
| 01:03.14 | abrotman | PhatTaco: dunno how |
| 01:03.15 | abrotman | oh well |
| 01:03.43 | rata_ | abrotman: why ? i wanted to know your client... it looks that was easier to use |
| 01:03.43 | rizen- | is there a C IDE debian package so i can use when i get bored of vi and gcc? |
| 01:03.49 | rata_ | abrotman: sorry |
| 01:03.53 | rata_ | abrotman: wont repeat |
| 01:04.04 | abrotman | rata_: you culd have asked ... i usually use xchat or irssi |
| 01:04.11 | abrotman | rizen-: anjuta |
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| 01:04.24 | abrotman | rizen-: good for C or C++ |
| 01:04.26 | rizen- | abrotman: thanks ill try it out |
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| 01:04.38 | abrotman | rizen-: fyi .. iirc .. its a gnome app |
| 01:04.43 | rata_ | abrotman: ok, but you help me much, i think why to ask, if i could know it my self ? |
| 01:04.47 | rizen- | abrotman: even better :D |
| 01:04.51 | abrotman | rizen-: ok |
| 01:04.56 | rata_ | abrotman: sorry, i would not do thata again |
| 01:05.00 | abrotman | rata_: its ok .. i dont mind .. but some people will kick you :) |
| 01:05.20 | abrotman | rata_: irssi is a great text client .. xchat is good for gui |
| 01:05.25 | abrotman | IMO anyways |
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| 01:06.00 | rata_ | abrotman: ehh, i am new in chat... if i knew it, would never do it |
| 01:06.13 | somiaj | hmm, the best gui is an xterm...(: |
| 01:06.14 | abrotman | rata_: like i said .. i dont care .. but some people get upset |
| 01:06.15 | rata_ | abrotman: i am using xchat now that i have X ;-) |
| 01:06.20 | abrotman | rata_: good |
| 01:06.32 | rata_ | abrotman: but never tried irrsi |
| 01:06.45 | abrotman | rata_: beats the heck out of bitchx |
| 01:07.03 | factor | I am having a problem with keymaps in the 2.6 kernel in text mode as well as X is this a common problem? |
| 01:07.06 | rata_ | abrotman: hehe, i wil try it |
| 01:07.19 | abrotman | rata_: the package is irrsi-text |
| 01:07.50 | somiaj | factor: It doesn't sound common, and I didn't experience any issue here. |
| 01:08.18 | marcst | rata_: abrotman : just a note it's irssi-text :) |
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| 01:08.36 | abrotman | rata_: yes .. i can't spell .. marcst is right |
| 01:08.37 | nvz | If form alters content, that is if the shape of a container fundamentally influences what it contains; what does this mean to the travellers of this IRCdom of plenty? When does a person no longer resemble a person? The answers to these questions, I believe lie withing the TCP/IP packets of chaos. |
| 01:08.53 | abrotman | !person |
| 01:08.53 | dpkg | methinks person is like a bot, but squishier |
| 01:08.54 | nvz | man or bot?! |
| 01:08.58 | rata_ | marcst: thanks ;-) |
| 01:09.08 | abrotman | !friday |
| 01:09.09 | dpkg | [friday] see saturday |
| 01:09.12 | abrotman | !sing friday |
| 01:09.18 | abrotman | what? |
| 01:09.22 | abrotman | !sing saturday |
| 01:09.27 | abrotman | !saturday |
| 01:09.27 | dpkg | rumour has it, saturday is see sunday |
| 01:09.31 | abrotman | i give up |
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| 01:09.44 | nvz | thank $DIETY |
| 01:09.46 | abrotman | dpkg: you suck |
| 01:09.47 | dpkg | Dream on, abrotman. These lips will never touch your flesh. |
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| 01:10.47 | rata_ | abrotman: do you use centericq ? |
| 01:11.00 | flugh | is there an 'apt-get <?> package' that will get package and 'suggested'? via magical supercow powers? |
| 01:11.03 | abrotman | rata_: i have .. in console i do .. also use gaim/gabber and in win32 .. exodus |
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| 01:11.24 | rata_ | abrotman: yes, gaim it is cool too |
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| 01:11.43 | rata_ | abrotman: but centericq rules(except for the bug in 4.9.11) |
| 01:11.58 | abrotman | rata_: its a pain to use sometimes for multiple converstations |
| 01:12.06 | dli | my system chooses tp use dummy device for alsa. even though the real device is configured |
| 01:12.12 | nvz | abrotman: whats cool, is Irssi-Text + Bitlbee, but thats probably too cool for you |
| 01:12.21 | abrotman | nvz: probably .. im a lamer |
| 01:12.23 | rata_ | abrotman: sometimes... |
| 01:12.38 | rata_ | abrotman: if you are talking with lot of people... if not... |
| 01:12.38 | nvz | abrotman: I actually intended to tell rata_ that.. heh |
| 01:12.40 | DrPete | are there any good system burn in tools for linux? |
| 01:12.54 | abrotman | DrPete: you mean stress test? |
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| 01:13.49 | abrotman | DrPete: ? |
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| 01:14.08 | abrotman | Supaplex: no more beer |
| 01:14.21 | nvz | only users loose drugs |
| 01:14.31 | abrotman | heh |
| 01:14.37 | abrotman | oot? |
| 01:15.08 | nvz | New Nabisco Tits, and Cheese Tits |
| 01:15.20 | abrotman | tits? |
| 01:15.23 | abrotman | nabisco makes tits? |
| 01:15.26 | DrPete | Yeah, something to test a system I build. I usually used windows based progs plus memtest, but I am looking for a good linux solution, ie free |
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| 01:15.32 | toltas | go george carlin |
| 01:15.33 | nvz | abrotman: no its something George Carlin said |
| 01:15.40 | abrotman | DrPete: apt-cache search stress |
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| 01:15.54 | DrPete | ooh ok |
| 01:16.00 | abrotman | cpuburn and crashme look interesting |
| 01:16.11 | abrotman | DrPete: i know there is also a program for smtp/pop3 testing |
| 01:16.34 | beta3 | latest copy of Linux Journal in my hands :) |
| 01:16.42 | abrotman | beta3: you can read? |
| 01:16.43 | Supaplex | =-D |
| 01:16.50 | DrPete | abrotman: nice |
| 01:17.15 | Supaplex | woah ho ho, beta3 can read? when'd this start? |
| 01:17.23 | beta3 | abrotman: I send irc text, and read that |
| 01:17.29 | beta3 | abrotman: I am a more skilled programmer than you |
| 01:17.32 | simonrvn | abrotman: geode go *boom* IIRC? |
| 01:17.35 | lurky | "aptget -update" notes packages that are "held back". what does this mean? why are they held back? |
| 01:17.36 | beta3 | abrotman: some reading is involved |
| 01:17.45 | abrotman | beta3: im sure you are a more skilled programmer than i am .. but ive probably been at it much longer |
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| 01:17.55 | abrotman | simonrvn: no .. i dont think so .. |
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| 01:18.02 | simonrvn | beta3: oh FFS, when do you ever stop bragging and saying shit like that. you just piss people off |
| 01:18.22 | nvz | simonrvn: he's young and cocky, it'll wear off ... |
| 01:18.32 | abrotman | nvz: or he needs to discover sex :) |
| 01:18.34 | simonrvn | abrotman: hrm, i seem to remember something ... oh yeh, it'S when they haven't been cracked open yet, and some might have some fucky gasses in them |
| 01:18.36 | nvz | people eventually learn that its better to be pissed off than pisse don |
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| 01:18.49 | abrotman | simonrvn: i meant the CPU geode |
| 01:18.55 | simonrvn | oh :) |
| 01:19.11 | abrotman | simonrvn: what kind of funky gases? |
| 01:19.31 | nvz | abrotman: he's walking around with his hands in his pockets all day, so he's feeling a little cocky ;) |
| 01:19.41 | abrotman | nvz: bad joke :) |
| 01:19.43 | simonrvn | abrotman: anything that might get produced deep down in the ground. could be almost anything |
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| 01:19.52 | simonrvn | nvz: fartfish |
| 01:19.54 | abrotman | simonrvn: ewww .. |
| 01:20.14 | nvz | simonrvn: thats news to me |
| 01:20.18 | simonrvn | abrotman: i'm not a geologist, just an amateur |
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| 01:20.30 | abrotman | simonrvn: amatuer what? |
| 01:20.34 | groulder | is it safe to remove the debian-sys-maint user from a mysql installation? |
| 01:20.39 | simonrvn | no |
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| 01:20.52 | simonrvn | abrotman: amateur fartfish |
| 01:20.57 | abrotman | !fartfish |
| 01:20.58 | dpkg | abrotman: fartfish |
| 01:21.01 | abrotman | ok |
| 01:21.22 | abrotman | dpkg: you are a moron |
| 01:21.22 | dpkg | abrotman: what are you talking about? |
| 01:21.34 | simonrvn | !moron abrotman |
| 01:21.34 | dpkg | abrotman: You are moron #62 |
| 01:21.37 | nvz | simonrvn: oh yeah? my boss said I am a pretty fart smeller (smart feller). |
| 01:21.45 | sussudio | !kawfeesmite abrotman |
| 01:22.11 | simonrvn | nvz: bah-dum-tssh |
| 01:22.26 | abrotman | !moron dpkg |
| 01:22.27 | dpkg | dpkg: You are moron #49 |
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| 01:22.47 | nvz | simonrvn: I call him bitch boy nancy-pants, but I dont think he knows that |
| 01:22.57 | simonrvn | should be moron #1, moroning itself like that |
| 01:23.11 | abrotman | !you are a supermoron |
| 01:23.11 | dpkg | abrotman: what are you talking about? |
| 01:23.16 | simonrvn | nvz: he might now, if he's on the channel ;P |
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| 01:24.42 | nvz | simonrvn: oh well, if I dont see him again before it rains, piss on him |
| 01:24.53 | simonrvn | heh |
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| 01:25.56 | Covener | Is there a way to tell ifup to use a different metric on a route it configures or a way to change a metric without deleteing/adding the route? |
| 01:26.03 | nvz | simonrvn: raining alot up there? seems like one sunny day, and 4 rainy days here |
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| 01:26.16 | abrotman | nvz: same here |
| 01:26.28 | nvz | abrotman: where is here? |
| 01:26.34 | abrotman | nvz: philly |
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| 01:26.48 | nvz | abrotman: thats alot closer than simonrvn |
| 01:26.49 | lihas | hi. everytime i reply to someone's email in mutt, and they had written with a blank subject, mutt defaults to a subject: "re: your mail" -- is there any way to configure that automatic "re: your mail" to something different? i couldn't find anything in the mutt manual online. |
| 01:26.50 | Demosthenes | i'm looking for a network utility, that will take STDIN and write it to a network port. however, if the remote end closes the connection, it must keep retrying to open it and send the remaining data, instead of dying or starting over.... netcat just dies :P |
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| 01:27.48 | nvz | abrotman: I am about 400miles south west in Morgantown, WV .. simonrvn is up there in canadia |
| 01:27.50 | simonrvn | nvz: mostly just cloudy, with some breaks |
| 01:28.09 | simonrvn | southern quebec to be precise |
| 01:28.30 | abrotman | i would like to get back to quebec city |
| 01:28.49 | abrotman | nvz: so you're like in kentucky almost? |
| 01:29.32 | nvz | abrotman: heh no, why I miscalculated? I figured Philly is 300mi from Pittsburgh and I am about 87mi south of there |
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| 01:29.50 | abrotman | oh .. so 40 miles southwest of morgantown? |
| 01:30.05 | Iwinblows | supz |
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| 01:30.36 | nvz | abrotman: *shrug* I can blow a snot on Morgantown from here |
| 01:30.43 | abrotman | nvz: fantastic :) |
| 01:30.49 | abrotman | !snot on me |
| 01:30.54 | abrotman | :( |
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| 01:31.46 | abrotman | yay |
| 01:31.56 | pmiller9 | how do I fix??? aclocal: configure.in: 30: macro `AM_PROG_LIBTOOL' not found in library |
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| 01:32.25 | nvz | yeah my workstation goes nuts when I bring down the network and dont unmount the NFS shares, all apps lagg |
| 01:32.27 | dacken | what kernel version is implented in the iso's online? |
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| 01:32.37 | abrotman | dacken: which isos? |
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| 01:32.43 | mith | 2.4.25 is on the sarge netinstall cds |
| 01:32.45 | nvz | figured that one out the other night when I forgot to unmount them |
| 01:32.56 | dacken | abrotman: the iso's you can download on the website of debian, the i386 ones |
| 01:33.02 | rootking | what is the command to check the version of samba I'm going to install with apt-get |
| 01:33.04 | abrotman | dacken: woody/stable? |
| 01:33.05 | rootking | before I instal lit |
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| 01:33.13 | dacken | stable |
| 01:33.22 | dacken | i need kernel v. 2.6.3 for my S-ATA to work |
| 01:33.24 | abrotman | dacken: 2.4.18 or 2.2.20 |
| 01:33.59 | abrotman | dacken: you need 2.6.3? |
| 01:34.02 | abrotman | really need? |
| 01:34.11 | dacken | VIA VT8237 South Bridge, using VT6420 Serial ATA chip — driver sata_via in libata driver set provides beta-level support a/o 2004-02-25 (included in kernel v. 2.6.3). Recent 2.4.x Linux kernels' conventional ATA drivers should support it, too. Proprietary drivers available on manufacturer's Web site. |
| 01:34.13 | abrotman | dacken: talk to #debian-boot .. see if they can help you |
| 01:34.14 | dacken | i got that |
| 01:34.28 | abrotman | dacken: try the sarge installer |
| 01:34.34 | abrotman | !tell dacken about d-i |
| 01:34.48 | somiaj | dacken: do you have a regular ide drive floating around, you could install onto that and then compile your own and copy the info over... |
| 01:34.54 | dacken | thanks |
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| 01:35.00 | dacken | my regular IDE broke down :( |
| 01:35.06 | DrPete | In a production server is there any point in using scsi, given the cheap price/speed/size of IDE drives these days |
| 01:35.17 | abrotman | DrPete: depends who you ask |
| 01:35.19 | dacken | the drive that is ;) |
| 01:35.38 | abrotman | DrPete: you didn't really say what the server will be doing |
| 01:35.41 | somiaj | dacken: hmm, cause I haven't heard of any install imagaes support 2.6 yet. What board do you have, just courious? |
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| 01:35.56 | eduard13 | ?: cpu is 77% idle... memory: -/+ buffers/cache: 507744 1561808 ... load avg is 13 |
| 01:35.57 | eduard13 | How can this bE? |
| 01:35.59 | dacken | I have a Asus k8v deluxe |
| 01:36.03 | dacken | amd 64 :) |
| 01:36.04 | abrotman | beta3: did you get 2.6 working with d-i yet? |
| 01:36.09 | DrPete | Well it will be a gateway/mail/web/ tiny bit of files etc |
| 01:36.11 | nvz | DrPete: SCSI was originally designed to allow more drives, and faster transfers, but the day of SCSI is comming to an end, and with that said .. doesnt say much for ide |
| 01:36.18 | dli | how to configure alsa devices? alsaconf doesn't work . I'm using alsa in 2.6.5 kernel |
| 01:36.25 | dacken | it's a new board |
| 01:36.41 | abrotman | dacken: ask #debian-boot or #debian-amd64 |
| 01:36.48 | dacken | thanks |
| 01:36.50 | marcst | DrPete: i've always found scsi to be much better for file servers, concurrent access by many users really benefits |
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| 01:37.07 | marcst | DrPete: ide just bogs down whoever's on the console |
| 01:37.07 | abrotman | DrPete: if its really disk intensive .. id say use scsi |
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| 01:37.09 | somiaj | dacken: ahh nice, how is teh 64 treating you (I have asus a7v600 here, will be getting an sata drive soon and hope it works well, it does say that recent 2.4.x kernels ata drivers should support it, have you tried an install with 2.4.25 on it? |
| 01:37.26 | eduard13 | Damn, helpful ppl only on in the afternoon? |
| 01:37.31 | DrPete | Yeah, that was my view of scsi, just wondered others options, as I have had poeople tell my scsi drives eill last alot longer, but I have never had problems with ide diying that quick |
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| 01:38.15 | rootking | Does anyone know if there is a current apt-get package of Samba available. Version 3.0 and later |
| 01:38.15 | dacken | somiaj: It's a wonderfull board, lot's of options, the only thing that bothers me is the unlocked PCI bus, if i were you i would wait for a board with PCI locked voltages for more overclocking performance :) |
| 01:38.21 | abrotman | eduard13: a runaway process? |
| 01:38.35 | eduard13 | abrotman: what would signal such a process? |
| 01:38.37 | nvz | !info samba |
| 01:38.42 | dpkg | samba: (a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix), section net, is optional. Version: 3.0.2a-1 (sid), Packaged size: 2240 kB, Installed size: 5756 kB |
| 01:38.43 | abrotman | eduard13: look at top |
| 01:38.49 | DrPete | With all the scsi standards out there these days, what controller/HD should I be looking at, when I dont wanna spend a fortune? |
| 01:38.53 | eduard13 | abrotman: looking at top |
| 01:38.54 | nvz | !info samba woody |
| 01:39.04 | dpkg | samba: (A LanManager like file and printer server for Unix.), section net, is optional. Version: 2.2.3a-12.3 (woody), Packaged size: 2360 kB, Installed size: 5416 kB |
| 01:39.07 | abrotman | eduard13: and whats using all the CPU? |
| 01:39.12 | dacken | somiaj: i haven't tried any other kernels yet so far, just looking for a boot image with 2.6.3 kernel :) |
| 01:39.17 | nvz | rootking: in sid is 3.0.2 |
| 01:39.19 | rootking | 2.2.3 isn't good |
| 01:39.24 | somiaj | dacken: yea, I'm not a big over clocker, so that doesn't bother me, (:, I just ad to upgrade from my asus a7v266 so I could get the higher bus speeds.... |
| 01:39.32 | rootking | see this http://www.apt-get.org/search.php?query=samba&submit=&arch%5B%5D=i386 |
| 01:39.38 | mak | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:39.44 | rootking | there's one that says: samba 3.0.0-2 (i386) |
| 01:39.51 | Omnikrome | how do you edit the grub boot loader so you can boot windows? |
| 01:39.55 | somiaj | dacken: well the factoid you posted said it may be able to work with recent 2.4.x kernels, so maybe try to install off the 2.4.25 (as there is a net install with that out there), then compile your own. |
| 01:39.58 | wasabi | has anybody ever attempted/succeeded with getting a Dual head display working with a radeon? |
| 01:40.01 | eduard13 | abrotman: top is using 28% to 30% |
| 01:40.19 | abrotman | eduard13: top is ? |
| 01:40.23 | dli | how to configure alsa devices? alsaconf doesn't work . I'm using alsa in 2.6.5 kernel |
| 01:40.26 | abrotman | that doesn't make sense |
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| 01:40.29 | dacken | somiaj: i have mine since october (early bird ;)) and game-ing performance (is what i mostly use my pc for anyways) is really nice |
| 01:40.30 | somiaj | Omnikrome: man grub, check out /usr/share/doc/grub |
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| 01:40.35 | mak | abrotman I know |
| 01:40.39 | eduard13 | abrotman: 30.3 0.0 0:29 top |
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| 01:40.47 | eduard13 | 30.3% cpu usage |
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| 01:41.02 | abrotman | eduard13: stop top .. |
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| 01:41.03 | dli | Omnikrome: do you know your Windwos partition? fdisk -l /dev/hda |
| 01:41.07 | abrotman | and try "w" |
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| 01:41.20 | eduard13 | what's w? |
| 01:41.30 | abrotman | eduard13: try it |
| 01:41.38 | somiaj | dacken: (:, yea my computer turns more and more into a work machine the older I get, so I don't need all the speed I can get, would rather just run it at the speed the parts are tested for and be happy there. |
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| 01:42.29 | eduard13 | abrotman: alright, got output |
| 01:42.42 | abrotman | eduard13: whats the load ? |
| 01:42.54 | eduard13 | load average: 19.33, 11.07, 8.08 |
| 01:42.56 | dacken | somiaj: would still like to see an AMD 64 compile a 64bit kernel :) Should be fast. |
| 01:43.02 | DrPete | abrotman: With all the scsi standards out there these days, what controller/HD should I be looking at, when I dont wanna spend a fortune? |
| 01:43.03 | abrotman | now wait a few minutes .. see if it goes down |
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| 01:43.26 | abrotman | DrPete: honestly .. no idea .. adaptec used to make good stuff .. HDD .. i like seagate .. but there are otheres |
| 01:43.34 | abrotman | and everyone has thier own opinion on hdds |
| 01:43.37 | eduard13 | abrotman: still awfully high |
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| 01:43.44 | somiaj | dacken: yup, that's a bit beyond me, I'm still waiting for an xp3200+ to drop its price a little bit and upgrade from my 1800...(: |
| 01:43.47 | abrotman | eduard13: a few minutes .. not 30 seconds :) |
| 01:43.56 | nekrataal | hi there, can anyone help to get my sound working plz??? |
| 01:43.58 | abrotman | eduard13: what does this machine to? |
| 01:44.05 | eduard13 | web/php/mysql |
| 01:44.08 | abrotman | !tell nekrataal about sound |
| 01:44.10 | somiaj | !tell nekrataal about sound |
| 01:44.11 | nekrataal | y have installed the modules y modconf.. |
| 01:44.23 | DrPete | abrotman: ok thanks, what speeds offer good value for money etc, eg U160 etc |
| 01:44.35 | abrotman | DrPete: U160 or U320 ... |
| 01:44.42 | eduard13 | abrotman: is 70% idle CPU bad? |
| 01:45.05 | abrotman | eduard13: im 98% idle |
| 01:45.21 | abrotman | eduard13: what does the machine do? |
| 01:45.28 | dacken | somiaj: well maybe you'd oughta wait for the new AMD 64 procs, they are going to be nicely priced. |
| 01:45.29 | eduard13 | but I have 450 apache processes running |
| 01:45.36 | abrotman | eduard13: why? |
| 01:45.37 | dacken | ! |
| 01:45.41 | abrotman | dacken: you mean socket 939? |
| 01:45.46 | eduard13 | abrotman: because it's a webserver |
| 01:45.53 | abrotman | eduard13: but thats 450? |
| 01:45.59 | abrotman | like .. 450!! |
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| 01:46.07 | eduard13 | ? |
| 01:46.08 | abrotman | thts why your load is so high |
| 01:46.23 | abrotman | eduard13: is it actually being used right now? |
| 01:46.23 | nekrataal | somiaj: i did all that but the sound still doesnt work... |
| 01:46.27 | eduard13 | Weird thing is I don't see top showing CPU0 and CPU1 |
| 01:46.27 | somiaj | dacken: yea, that requires a new board though, I figure I will just stick with a nice 32bit for a while and if I ever get the cash just build another machine once the 64's have been out a bit longer. |
| 01:46.34 | eduard13 | abrotman: yes |
| 01:46.45 | abrotman | eduard13: i mean ... really *used* |
| 01:46.47 | abrotman | ? |
| 01:46.58 | eduard13 | abrotman: what do you mean really used? |
| 01:47.03 | somiaj | nekrataal: well give us more info, we aren't just gonna guess where you went wrong or what the problem can be...have you turned up all the volumes with aumix? |
| 01:47.09 | abrotman | eduard13: obviously its on .. but 450 is a lot |
| 01:47.10 | somiaj | nekrataal: are you using alsa or oss, etc... |
| 01:47.21 | dacken | abrotman: no i socket 939 is going to be the more expensive line, according to my info, i hear the 754 is going to be the budget procs |
| 01:47.34 | eduard13 | abrotman: yes, apache serves files so people stay connected for a long time |
| 01:47.34 | abrotman | dacken: i thikn id rather have 939 .. but oh well |
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| 01:47.46 | dacken | abrotman: aye, me too, dual channel support :) |
| 01:47.49 | Spark_ | is there a wine channel? |
| 01:47.50 | abrotman | eduard13: you're not answering the question .. is the server in active use right now? |
| 01:47.56 | nekrataal | aumix: error opening mixer |
| 01:47.57 | eduard13 | abrotman: yes |
| 01:47.58 | sussudio | Spark_: #france? |
| 01:47.58 | abrotman | Spark_: #winehq |
| 01:48.07 | Spark_ | abrotman: ta |
| 01:48.21 | abrotman | eduard13: how many servers do you allow? .. and how many do you start? |
| 01:48.23 | Omnikrome | im not sure what it is |
| 01:48.37 | dacken | somiaj: 32 bit is still nice enough, not a real reason so far to upgrade to 64 bit |
| 01:48.37 | eduard13 | abrotman: I allow 1024 |
| 01:48.43 | abrotman | holy shit |
| 01:48.43 | Omnikrome | i9 think one windows partion is hda1 |
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| 01:48.46 | abrotman | how much RAM? |
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| 01:48.50 | eduard13 | 2gb |
| 01:49.07 | abrotman | eduard13: the reason your load is so high is because its switching context all the time i would imagine |
| 01:49.23 | abrotman | eduard13: how many CPUs? |
| 01:49.25 | eduard13 | abrotman: what do you mean? |
| 01:49.26 | somiaj | dacken: nope, and being a poor college student it easier just to buy a pice here and a pice there to upgrade my 32bit system, since I built this computer 4 years I have just slowly added to it to increase the speed... |
| 01:49.32 | eduard13 | abrotman: 2 amd 2200 mps |
| 01:49.45 | eduard13 | top doesn't show cpu0 and cpu1 though... proc/cpuinfo shows both though |
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| 01:49.59 | abrotman | eduard13: your machine is switching all the time between apaches .. im guessing you're running apache/php/mysql? |
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| 01:50.11 | seanj | hi people, i've stumbled into using debian woody and want to reconfigure the mail system, like that screen at initial installation, any way to get back to that? dpk-reconfigure exim didn't work |
| 01:50.22 | eduard13 | abrotman: correct |
| 01:50.23 | abrotman | seanj: eximconfig |
| 01:50.31 | DrPete | Is EEC mem worth it? |
| 01:50.32 | seanj | awesome abrotman, thank you :) |
| 01:50.35 | abrotman | eduard13: with 450 .. im gonna say thats normal |
| 01:50.37 | dacken | somiaj: hehe i can buy my gear for retail price ;) And i have a fulltime job atm, so most of my money goes in hardware :) And i know the feeling of being a poor college student ;p |
| 01:50.39 | DrPete | ECC i mean |
| 01:50.41 | abrotman | DrPete: i think so |
| 01:50.47 | nekrataal | Error while initializing the sound driver: |
| 01:50.47 | nekrataal | device /dev/dsp can't be opened (No such device) |
| 01:50.47 | nekrataal | The sound server will continue, using the null output device. |
| 01:50.54 | DrPete | oki :) |
| 01:51.10 | abrotman | DrPete: its a little slower .. but its worth it to keep the correction in there |
| 01:51.14 | nekrataal | thats what the sound server says... |
| 01:51.24 | eduard13 | abrotman: nothing I can do about it? |
| 01:51.29 | DrPete | Anyone surgest any good stable boards I can use for an AMD based server? |
| 01:51.37 | somiaj | dacken: nice work...yea maybe one day, but if I get this 32bit machine running well, when I can afford to upgrade to a 64 bit, I'll still have this one as an extra gaming box on my lan. |
| 01:51.43 | abrotman | eduard13: how many servers do you start? |
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| 01:51.51 | abrotman | and how many extras do you make apache start? |
| 01:51.51 | DrPete | abrotman: oki ta |
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| 01:52.13 | eduard13 | abrotman: StartServers 5 MinSpareServers 5 MaxSpareServers 10 |
| 01:52.40 | abrotman | eduard13: so you start 5? .. and its now on 450? |
| 01:52.42 | seanj | all fixed! |
| 01:52.46 | eduard13 | abrotman: correct |
| 01:52.55 | abrotman | eduard13: is there a timeout setting? |
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| 01:52.57 | abrotman | i dont remember |
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| 01:53.33 | eduard13 | *looking |
| 01:53.49 | eduard13 | I think there's something about keepalive |
| 01:54.13 | abrotman | eduard13: i mean .. if you netstat -an ... how many are .. crap.. i forget the state |
| 01:54.20 | eduard13 | Timeout 300 |
| 01:54.40 | abrotman | i guess thast normal |
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| 01:54.46 | nekrataal | !tell nekrataal about sound |
| 01:55.11 | eduard13 | Could the low MinSpareServers be causing problems since apache is constantly starting.. shutting down processes? |
| 01:55.24 | abrotman | eduard13: you can try upping it .. |
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| 01:55.51 | abrotman | eduard13: try setting minspare to 25 .. maxspare to 35 .. dunno |
| 01:56.07 | abrotman | eduard13: i think what you're seeing is normal |
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| 01:56.49 | abrotman | eduard13: maybe #apache might have more ideas |
| 01:56.54 | abrotman | or be able to tell you its normal |
| 01:57.03 | nekrataal | wich modules apart of the Drivers for my soundar do i have to install??? |
| 01:57.12 | abrotman | nekrataal: you're on 2.6 aren't you? |
| 01:57.14 | eduard13 | abrotman: alright, I'll look. Thanks for the thelp. |
| 01:57.22 | nekrataal | im on 2.1 |
| 01:57.23 | jondab-ali | how do i show a "dir" style output in a term (including file sizes)? |
| 01:57.23 | abrotman | eduard13: sorry i couldn't help more |
| 01:57.27 | abrotman | 2.1? |
| 01:57.32 | nekrataal | but i have the 2.4.18 kernel |
| 01:57.37 | abrotman | jondab-ali: ls -l ? |
| 01:57.38 | seanj | hehe |
| 01:57.43 | nekrataal | on debian woody |
| 01:58.00 | jondab-ali | abrotman: cheers |
| 01:58.12 | nekrataal | ??? |
| 01:58.16 | seanj | abrotman, sounds simply like you have no device driver loaded for your sound hardware |
| 01:58.20 | abrotman | nekrataal: and you loaded all the modules? |
| 01:58.26 | seanj | er.. heh |
| 01:58.28 | abrotman | seanj: my sound is fine :) |
| 01:58.40 | seanj | yes lol as i look at my typing i would imagine yours is |
| 01:58.41 | seanj | sorry bout that |
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| 01:58.48 | seanj | i better leave before i look any stupider :D |
| 01:58.50 | seanj | take care |
| 01:58.51 | Omnikrome | how would i boot into windows from the grub cmd? |
| 01:59.03 | abrotman | Omnikrome: you need to know which partition windows is on |
| 01:59.17 | abrotman | Omnikrome: fdisk -l /dev/hda |
| 01:59.36 | Omnikrome | one of them is hda1 |
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| 02:00.03 | abrotman | Omnikrome: one of them? |
| 02:00.06 | Omnikrome | wwont that format the partition |
| 02:00.19 | Omnikrome | im have 2 windows paartitions |
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| 02:00.35 | Omnikrome | -m |
| 02:00.52 | abrotman | -l just lists them |
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| 02:01.27 | abrotman | Omnikrome: i dont use grub .. but id think you can google for this rather easily |
| 02:01.55 | abrotman | !tell Omnikrome about grub |
| 02:02.03 | Omnikrome | all they show me is how to edit the file once im in it |
| 02:02.16 | abrotman | so get in it |
| 02:02.17 | Omnikrome | they dont tell me where it is |
| 02:02.29 | abrotman | uhm .. i htink its /boot/grub/somethingorother |
| 02:02.54 | nekrataal | anyone knows how to get the sound to work?? starting form zero?? |
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| 02:03.33 | abrotman | http://www.linuxorbit.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=539 |
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| 02:04.48 | Supaplex | first, buy a sound card. |
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| 02:05.42 | nekrataal | i have a sound card.. |
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| 02:05.45 | nekrataal | what now.. |
| 02:05.50 | torbjorn | is there a howto on how to setup a boot image for filesystem maintainance? it should mount some ram, read a minimum of files from the harddrive onto it, and then unmount and enable filesystem maintainanence. |
| 02:06.00 | torbjorn | as an alternative to booting off of a floppy or a cdrom |
| 02:06.28 | calyth | Remote X problems: I could go DISPLAY=server:0 xterm, but I can't startx -- server:0 - Doing the latter says user not authorized to run the X server, yet I could startx if I'm logged into it in console. any ideas? |
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| 02:07.22 | simonrvn | calyth: startx is by default :0.0.. |
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| 02:07.43 | calyth | simonrvn: I tried to change that to server:0... I must be doing that wrong... |
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| 02:08.05 | lleandro | teste |
| 02:08.30 | simonrvn | calyth: why are you trying to set server:0 ? |
| 02:08.37 | Caspan | if i want to run a secure FTPserver that is encrypted how would i do that ? can i just run pro ftpD and use certificates? |
| 02:08.41 | nekrataal | Can anyone help me to get the sound to work?? |
| 02:08.49 | simonrvn | !+audio |
| 02:08.49 | dpkg | To configure sound in Debian: first, use modconf to load your driver. Then add yourself to the audio group (adduser username audio) and logout and back in. If you use ISA PnP and 2.2.x, ask me about "isapnp sound". If you don't know what driver to use, start with "lspci -v" and "pnpdump". Install a mixer (e.g. gmix) and make sure the volume is not set to zero in software. If you have no modules, ask me about "idepci". |
| 02:08.52 | calyth | simonrvn: cause that particular server normally doesn't have a screen hooked up to it |
| 02:09.16 | abrotman | simonrvn: he has no dsp |
| 02:09.19 | simonrvn | !wayttd calyth |
| 02:09.20 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, calyth? |
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| 02:09.30 | nekrataal | simonrvn: i did that.. |
| 02:09.41 | simonrvn | nekrataal: as root or sudo: cd /dev; MAKEDEV audio |
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| 02:10.06 | nekrataal | but the sound server of kde says this...Error while initializing the sound driver: |
| 02:10.07 | nekrataal | device /dev/dsp can't be opened (No such device) |
| 02:10.07 | nekrataal | The sound server will continue, using the null output device. |
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| 02:10.52 | carrett | hi, is there a howto for setting up the mail system, i want to use a remote email address for all system mail |
| 02:10.56 | simonrvn | that usually means artsd can't 'grab' /dev/dsp, or you don't have one, or you misconfigured the sound system for kde |
| 02:11.06 | calyth | simonrvn: the said server is behind a firewall on the local LAN as this machine. I'm simply trying to get the whole desktop transferred over the network on this machine |
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| 02:11.25 | simonrvn | calyth: and what about X11Forwarding thorugh ssh? |
| 02:11.32 | simonrvn | through even |
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| 02:11.55 | nekrataal | simonrvn: and what can i do?? |
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| 02:12.14 | simonrvn | dpkg: a few apps maybe, but the whole desktop is overkill |
| 02:12.14 | dpkg | I think you lost me on that one, simonrvn |
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| 02:12.23 | calyth | simonrvn: yeah I suppose I'm doing that. I can have wterm displayed on this machine through an ssh connection by typing DISPLAY=server:0 wterm |
| 02:12.27 | simonrvn | dondelelcaro: i meant you :) |
| 02:12.32 | simonrvn | dpkg: shut up |
| 02:12.32 | dpkg | no, i won't. make me |
| 02:12.39 | abrotman | dpkg: stfu |
| 02:12.40 | dpkg | [stfu] Shut The Fuck Up, or see also http://people.debian.org/~branden/humor/the_real_official_motto.jpeg |
| 02:12.42 | simonrvn | good bot |
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| 02:13.06 | nekrataal | simonrvn: do you know what to do? |
| 02:13.21 | simonrvn | calyth: uh, no. enable X11Forwarding in the machine's sshd_config |
| 02:13.25 | dli | I couldn't compile alsa-source with 2.6.5 kernel, why? |
| 02:13.37 | simonrvn | nekrataal: i told you what you could do, now go do it |
| 02:13.38 | dondelelcaro | nekrataal: I always find running around waving your hands and screaming to be a good cathartic exercise... |
| 02:13.39 | dli | /usr/src/linux-2.6.5/include/linux/version.h does not exist. |
| 02:13.55 | calyth | simonrvn: oh wait... I did that but didn't restart the sshd.... |
| 02:14.11 | simonrvn | reload works too |
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| 02:14.59 | simonrvn | calyth: then ssh -CX your_user@the_host |
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| 02:15.20 | cafuego | ARRRGH! |
| 02:15.22 | nekrataal | T_T |
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| 02:15.29 | nekrataal | :-( |
| 02:15.29 | calyth | simonrvn: well that solved half my problems. I think I can try the next half ;) thanks for the help! |
| 02:15.32 | simonrvn | cafuego: GRRGARHFG! |
| 02:15.33 | nekrataal | :'* |
| 02:15.36 | nekrataal | :'( |
| 02:15.41 | abrotman | cafuego: do oyu really think mod_sql feels pain> |
| 02:15.42 | Jerub | using iptables, how would I go about denying all traffic from a specific host? |
| 02:15.42 | abrotman | ? |
| 02:15.54 | somiaj | cafuego: give it a good beating, make it BLEED!! |
| 02:15.59 | abrotman | Jerub: the -s flag maybe? |
| 02:16.00 | cafuego | abrotman: it had better |
| 02:16.15 | abrotman | you know .. like .. source! :) |
| 02:16.24 | simonrvn | Jerub: hint #1: read an iptables tutorial hint #2: -s $ip_of_wanted_host -j DROP |
| 02:16.32 | cafuego | it CLAIMS it can do named queries to retrieve database vars, but it won't run the second query to make a log entry! |
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| 02:17.00 | simonrvn | nekrataal: do ls -l /dev/dsp and show me what you get |
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| 02:17.49 | nekrataal | crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 3 Apr 9 22:16 /dev/dsp |
| 02:18.00 | abrotman | oh .. you're shitting me |
| 02:18.06 | simonrvn | nekrataal: now do lsof /dev/dsp |
| 02:18.09 | abrotman | nekrataal: cat /etc/group | grep audio |
| 02:18.22 | abrotman | simonrvn: i like my idea better :) |
| 02:18.22 | simonrvn | or getent group audio |
| 02:18.48 | nekrataal | audio:x:29:nekrataal |
| 02:18.53 | somiaj | hmm, shouldn't /dev/dsp be a link to /dev/dspX |
| 02:19.11 | abrotman | somiaj: mine isn't |
| 02:19.12 | somiaj | nekrataal: type groups (: since your running all these commands anyways...(: |
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| 02:19.24 | simonrvn | somiaj: not always, and not necessary |
| 02:19.40 | abrotman | i like being in the dip group :) |
| 02:19.42 | nekrataal | root |
| 02:19.44 | somiaj | simonrvn: I didn't think it was necessary, just was courious...(: |
| 02:19.50 | simonrvn | :) |
| 02:19.52 | abrotman | nekrataal: did you logout/login? |
| 02:20.01 | nekrataal | ?? |
| 02:20.07 | calyth | simonrvn: got it running thanks! |
| 02:20.08 | abrotman | uh .. yeah .. thats a good thing btw :) |
| 02:20.45 | abrotman | nekrataal: after you add yourself to the audio group .. you have to logout/login |
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| 02:20.46 | simonrvn | nekrataal: when you change a user, that user needs to log out completely and log back in again |
| 02:20.46 | simonrvn | calyth: ok |
| 02:20.51 | nekrataal | ok, but i added myself to the audio group a long time ago.. |
| 02:21.00 | simonrvn | so np there |
| 02:21.24 | abrotman | nekrataal: if you type "groups" and audio doesn't show up .. you're not in the group |
| 02:21.35 | nekrataal | jeje, i did that as root... |
| 02:21.39 | nekrataal | w8 |
| 02:21.51 | nekrataal | nekrataal audio |
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| 02:22.18 | nekrataal | but i still have no sound... |
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| 02:23.05 | somiaj | nekrataal: volumes are turned up on aumix....what are you using to try to make sound? |
| 02:23.21 | nekrataal | aumix |
| 02:23.21 | nekrataal | aumix: error opening mixer |
| 02:23.25 | jetx | lies |
| 02:23.35 | nekrataal | i cannot start the KDE sound server.. |
| 02:23.43 | somiaj | nekrataal: well that may be where your problem lies..(: (error opening mixer) |
| 02:23.46 | abrotman | wheres the mixer? |
| 02:23.53 | abrotman | /dev/mixer |
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| 02:24.01 | nekrataal | i installed it with the apt... |
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| 02:24.06 | Kel | I just wanted to update anyone who was here. Awhile ago I came in here and informed you all that my bf was watching Trigun and someone said that he'd be begging for NG:E like it was crack. |
| 02:24.08 | nekrataal | apt-get install aumix |
| 02:24.15 | Kel | You are in fact correct. He has actually seen about 12 series now |
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| 02:25.06 | somiaj | Kel: well I think we are all crack fiends, the problem is finding the flavor of crack we love...(: |
| 02:25.20 | nekrataal | no ideas?? |
| 02:25.44 | somiaj | nekrataal: the mixer not being there is a module problem...I missed it, are you running ALSA or OSS? |
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| 02:27.06 | nekrataal | alsa |
| 02:27.18 | simonrvn | you need alsa devs.. |
| 02:27.33 | simonrvn | and/or use oss compat for alsa |
| 02:28.25 | abrotman | dude, wheres my car? |
| 02:28.30 | abrotman | dpkg: wheres my car? |
| 02:28.30 | dpkg | How would I know... You have the keys, don't you? |
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| 02:28.54 | abrotman | dpkg: you know a lot of stuff |
| 02:28.54 | dpkg | i don't know, abrotman |
| 02:29.02 | nekrataal | dpkg: where are you? |
| 02:29.02 | dpkg | I am at 42.37512 N, 72.51999 W |
| 02:29.21 | abrotman | chicago? |
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| 02:29.37 | prock | dpkg: who are you? |
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| 02:29.38 | dpkg | I'm a chimp! |
| 02:29.38 | nekrataal | alsa... |
| 02:29.55 | nekrataal | dpkg: how old are you? |
| 02:29.56 | dpkg | 900 ... like Yoda ... |
| 02:29.57 | simonrvn | yes, we know you have alsa |
| 02:29.59 | somiaj | nekrataal: get an alsamixer then use that to turn your volumes up |
| 02:30.03 | tele | where does the latest gdm look for sessions? It seems /etc/gdm/Sessions doesn't work any more. |
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| 02:30.09 | prock | dpkg: what are you? |
| 02:30.09 | dpkg | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
| 02:30.15 | simonrvn | tele: read the changelog |
| 02:30.28 | somiaj | tele: have ya checked the bug in the topic by chance |
| 02:30.29 | nekrataal | actually i dont know wath alsa is, it just came to my mind... |
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| 02:30.41 | nekrataal | XD |
| 02:30.50 | somiaj | nekrataal: what is the name of the sound module you loaded into your kernel? |
| 02:30.51 | Jerub | thanks for the hints! |
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| 02:30.58 | nekrataal | ac97 |
| 02:30.58 | abrotman | dpkg: how are you |
| 02:30.58 | dpkg | just great, abrotman |
| 02:31.15 | tele | simonrvn: it says /etc/X11/dm/sessions. But I don't how to creat desktop files |
| 02:31.16 | somiaj | nekrataal: that is not a module for your sound card just an audio codec, now load the module for your sound card. |
| 02:31.26 | nekrataal | because i have a soyo KTV, and it has an ac97 codecs.. |
| 02:31.39 | eduard13 | abrotman: did some revamping... let's see how things go. Timeout 300 -> 60, KeepAlive On -> Off, MinSpareServers 50, MaxSpareServers 150 |
| 02:31.41 | nekrataal | mmmm |
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| 02:32.02 | eduard13 | MinSpareServers 5-> 50, MaxSpareServers 15 -> 150 |
| 02:32.06 | tele | somiaj: do you know the bug number? |
| 02:32.10 | abrotman | eduard13: ok |
| 02:32.10 | bobstroaway | i'm having pam (i suspect) issues logging in via nis. anybody willing to help? |
| 02:32.16 | somiaj | tele: /topic |
| 02:32.26 | simonrvn | tele: edit the one in /etc/dm/Sessions to say Exec=custom instead of Exec=default |
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| 02:32.34 | mdhaque | hey... just wanted to let all know... newbie first time being able to install debian and run X including full graphics... ahh... i guess the journey starts from here ;) |
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| 02:33.15 | mith | mdhaque: wtf are you babbling about? |
| 02:33.27 | BobMugabe | how do i get new apps to show up in the kde "start menu"-esque thing |
| 02:33.37 | mith | add the to it |
| 02:33.39 | nekrataal | i dont know where the drivers are... |
| 02:33.45 | tele | simonrvn, somiaj: thanks |
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| 02:33.47 | somiaj | BobMugabe: if you have the menu package installed, try to run update-menus |
| 02:33.49 | exobyte | anyone know if AMD wants the fan/hs shipped along with the cpu for RMAs? |
| 02:33.54 | abrotman | dpkg lives in MA? |
| 02:33.59 | dpkg | wish i knew, abrotman |
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| 02:34.05 | abrotman | dpkg: amherst |
| 02:34.06 | dpkg | abrotman: no idea |
| 02:34.16 | simonrvn | dpkg: fartfish |
| 02:34.16 | dpkg | simonrvn: fartfish |
| 02:34.27 | nekrataal | dpkg: fart |
| 02:34.30 | mdhaque | mith: i tried to install woody for a long time... failed/tried ... failed/tried.... and atlast i managed to make it right today... |
| 02:34.30 | somiaj | exobyte: you might wanna ask AMD when ya got your RMA number...I would doubt it, but I wouldn't know |
| 02:34.31 | lifeform | problems with totem. I get an error "dvd:/ cant find suitable plugin". One proposed solution for this problem is to install libdvdread3 and then run the script in /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples to install libdvdcss. I have both installed but still have this problem. Any suggestions? |
| 02:34.51 | somiaj | lifeform: try to run it as rot |
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| 02:35.00 | nekrataal | should i install the drivers in modconf??? |
| 02:35.01 | somiaj | lifeform: as root, and see if it may just be a primision error |
| 02:35.11 | somiaj | nekrataal: what sound card do you have? |
| 02:35.18 | mith | mdhaque: so you're saying you can't read? |
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| 02:36.08 | Lonari | how do i force remove a package irregardless of dependencies using dpkg? |
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| 02:36.14 | dondelelcaro | Lonari: you don't. |
| 02:36.25 | dondelelcaro | Lonari: what exactly are you trying to do? |
| 02:36.32 | mdhaque | mith: i'm saying that i could never configure my X properly before... now i got the hang of it... |
| 02:36.47 | Lonari | dondelelcaro just want to know if it can be done |
| 02:36.48 | phogg | Is there a place where browser plugins are Supposed to go in Debian? Or are they really supposed to be in APPDIR/plugins ? |
| 02:36.52 | bobstroaway | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:36.57 | mith | Lonari: dpkg -r `apt-cache rdeps package` package |
| 02:36.57 | nekrataal | i have an integrated chip on my SY-K7VTA PRO v.1.0 |
| 02:37.06 | somiaj | Lonari: not with out breaking your system.... |
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| 02:37.20 | xenv | hello |
| 02:37.22 | nekrataal | Audio Description |
| 02:37.22 | nekrataal | Sigmatel AC97 CODEC on board audio solution |
| 02:37.30 | lifeform | somiaj: permission for /dev/hdd? Should I set it to be world readable? |
| 02:37.33 | Ezekiel^ | how can I open a port e.g 4016 for both the internal and external ethernet cards for traffic using iptables ? (If this is more explaining, allow connection on port 4016 on all interfaces). |
| 02:37.35 | mith | Lonari: dpkg -r `apt-cache rdepends package` package |
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| 02:37.47 | jogi | hi |
| 02:37.58 | dondelelcaro | ah yes, the ever popular remove everything that happens to depend on that package approach... |
| 02:38.00 | somiaj | lifeform: no....chown it to root.cdrom (or some group like that, then add your user to a cdrom group) |
| 02:38.05 | jogi | is there a patch needed for 2.4.25 kernel to make it bootable with an initrd wich uses cramfs ? |
| 02:38.10 | nekrataal | ??? |
| 02:38.20 | abrotman | jogi: yes .. |
| 02:38.23 | abrotman | iirc |
| 02:38.25 | mith | dondelelcaro: well, if he doesn't want the package .... |
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| 02:38.37 | abrotman | jogi: Xu patch iirc |
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| 02:38.45 | somiaj | nekrataal: what chipset is on your board...all you are seeing is the ac97 audio codec, not the chipset for the sound card. |
| 02:38.45 | dondelelcaro | mith: althogh, I'm not sure if dpkg likes removing packages that aren't even installed... |
| 02:38.56 | abrotman | nekrataal: lspci |
| 02:38.59 | mith | dondelelcaro: they just fail silently |
| 02:39.30 | nekrataal | 00:07.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50) |
| 02:39.31 | dondelelcaro | mith: not quite silently... dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove 9wm which isn't installed. |
| 02:39.45 | mith | well a | sort -u would be a good idea though |
| 02:39.53 | jogi | abrotman ? |
| 02:40.05 | mith | dondelelcaro: close enough to silently |
| 02:40.18 | abrotman | jogi: i think thats what you need .. but im not 100% sure .. |
| 02:40.20 | mith | dondelelcaro: get a shorter nick so I can hit tab sooner. |
| 02:40.24 | abrotman | jogi: id say .. just dont use initrd :) |
| 02:40.38 | nekrataal | ??? |
| 02:40.43 | jogi | need to |
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| 02:40.48 | dondelelcaro | mith: eh, you just need a client that's more intelligent and figures out who has spoken recently, and tab completes based on that... |
| 02:40.51 | abrotman | jogi: need to why? |
| 02:41.25 | pngwn | nekrataal, scroll down the list of cards until you see a viaXXX or something similar |
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| 02:41.46 | nekrataal | 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8363/8365 [KT133/KM133] (rev 02) |
| 02:41.46 | nekrataal | 00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8363/8365 [KT133/KM133 AGP] |
| 02:41.47 | nekrataal | 00:07.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super South] (rev 40) |
| 02:41.55 | dondelelcaro | nekrataal: please don't paste here. |
| 02:42.08 | nekrataal | 00:07.4 Bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super ACPI] (rev 40) |
| 02:42.12 | nekrataal | ok, im sorry |
| 02:42.19 | bobstroaway | anybody up on nis/pam issues? |
| 02:42.22 | somiaj | nekrataal: modprobe via82xx (I belive that is the module you want) |
| 02:42.31 | abrotman | via82xxx or something |
| 02:43.08 | nekrataal | modprobe: Can't locate module via82xx |
| 02:43.14 | nekrataal | modprobe: Can't locate module via82xxx |
| 02:43.15 | jogi | abrotman cuz i need to |
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| 02:43.38 | somiaj | nekrataal: what kernel are you running, compile it yourself or get it from debian? |
| 02:43.53 | abrotman | jogi: thts not a reason .. either find the Xu patch .. or dont use initrd |
| 02:44.03 | abrotman | jogi: or .. tell debian to use a different ramfs |
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| 02:44.24 | abrotman | jogi: or get the kernel-source package ... which already has the patch |
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| 02:44.38 | nekrataal | im running 2.4.18 |
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| 02:44.46 | abrotman | nekrataal: uname -r |
| 02:44.47 | nekrataal | and i installed it with de apt-get |
| 02:44.56 | nekrataal | ?? |
| 02:45.00 | somiaj | nekrataal: hmm, well its strange that that module is not there. |
| 02:45.05 | abrotman | nekrataal: uname -r |
| 02:45.06 | Scheme | can someone give me a hand that has experience with exim4 and mysql? I get it setup and running but getting an error when I telnet to exim and try and send an email to a virtual account... |
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| 02:45.11 | nekrataal | 2.4.18-1-k7 |
| 02:45.18 | abrotman | and thers no via module? |
| 02:45.54 | eduard13 | abrotman: disabled all apache logging... alright, should run clean now *prays* |
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| 02:46.16 | abrotman | nekrataal: go to /lib/modules/kernelyoureusing/kernel/drivers/sound .. and theres no via82cxxx_audio module? |
| 02:46.26 | abrotman | eduard13: dont oyu need logging? |
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| 02:46.48 | eduard13 | abrotman: nah, logs are unreadable by anything other than log analyzers |
| 02:46.55 | abrotman | i read them |
| 02:47.08 | eduard13 | but mine are millions of lines long |
| 02:47.14 | abrotman | eduard13: rotate them |
| 02:47.24 | eduard13 | abrotman: i do... still too long to read |
| 02:47.33 | eduard13 | rotate daily |
| 02:48.13 | bur[n]er | can anyone tell me how to add more virtual terms (ie ctrl+alt f3, f4, etc.) I only have one term, and one for X right now |
| 02:48.27 | abrotman | bur[n]er: /etc/inittab iirc |
| 02:48.46 | nekrataal | via82cxxx_audio.o |
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| 02:49.05 | abrotman | so .. modprobe via82cxxx_audio |
| 02:49.06 | somiaj | bur[n]er: /etc/inittab is where you would add it, but you should have 6, hmm are you sure your hitting alt and not meta (the right alt=meta) |
| 02:49.14 | EspeonEefi | What's the command to format a ReiserFS filesystem? |
| 02:49.15 | nekrataal | done.. |
| 02:49.20 | bur[n]er | uhh.. i'm sure |
| 02:49.21 | abrotman | did it owrk? |
| 02:49.23 | bur[n]er | i'm hitting hte left |
| 02:50.08 | somiaj | bur[n]er: well unless you modified your /etc/inittab you should have 6 (its default), so somethign is strange that you only have one. |
| 02:50.22 | bur[n]er | i installed morphix |
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| 02:50.27 | nekrataal | ok, now the sound is working, thanks you very much |
| 02:50.28 | bur[n]er | it's not stock debian |
| 02:50.36 | abrotman | bur[n]er: you noticed this is #debian right :) |
| 02:50.46 | abrotman | nekrataal: see .. we're so smrt .. :) |
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| 02:51.16 | bur[n]er | lol |
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| 02:51.24 | bur[n]er | i know, but it's busier here than morphix ;) |
| 02:51.26 | abrotman | bur[n]er: but its hte inittab |
| 02:51.27 | bur[n]er | and y'all are smart |
| 02:51.30 | bur[n]er | cool |
| 02:51.35 | lipe | hey, how i install a ISA USR sportster modem? |
| 02:51.42 | bur[n]er | i notice i have some commented out |
| 02:51.48 | abrotman | so uncomment them |
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| 02:51.50 | bur[n]er | #2:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty2 |
| 02:51.54 | bur[n]er | that... right? |
| 02:51.57 | bur[n]er | getty == term? |
| 02:51.58 | abrotman | yep |
| 02:52.05 | abrotman | kind of |
| 02:52.09 | abrotman | just uncomment as many as you need |
| 02:52.40 | bur[n]er | oh crap, they are uncommented actually |
| 02:52.43 | bur[n]er | just a couple lines below |
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| 02:53.11 | abrotman | bur[n]er: which run level? |
| 02:53.13 | bur[n]er | and somehow... my X is on tty2... any ideas? |
| 02:53.19 | abrotman | notice some of them work on 23 others 2345 |
| 02:53.20 | bur[n]er | well... i'm not sure exactly |
| 02:53.21 | bur[n]er | the default |
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| 02:53.33 | bur[n]er | it says 2 |
| 02:53.33 | abrotman | the default? |
| 02:53.36 | bur[n]er | i think |
| 02:53.42 | bur[n]er | # The default runlevel. |
| 02:53.43 | bur[n]er | id:2:initdefault: |
| 02:53.45 | bur[n]er | yes? |
| 02:53.47 | abrotman | yep |
| 02:53.51 | sussudio | !enter |
| 02:53.51 | dpkg | The enter key or return key is not a substitute for punctuation. Use a period '.', comma ',', colon ':', semi-colon ';' emdash '--', or ellipsis '...' instead. |
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| 02:54.04 | abrotman | sussudio: and then .. |
| 02:54.04 | bur[n]er | default should be 5 right? |
| 02:54.05 | abrotman | !ep |
| 02:54.06 | dpkg | Stop!!! Using!!!! So!!!!! Much!!!!! Punctuation!!!!!!!!!!! It's ..... Irritating ..... As ..... All .... Hell!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| 02:54.16 | abrotman | bur[n]er: debian default is 2 |
| 02:54.27 | anonobomber | knoppix_, omg what an original nick |
| 02:55.03 | abrotman | !nickometer knoppix_ |
| 02:55.03 | dpkg | 'knoppix_' is 14.000% lame, abrotman |
| 02:55.08 | abrotman | !nickometer anonobomber |
| 02:55.18 | abrotman | !nickometer anonobomber |
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| 02:55.21 | lipe | hey, how can i install a ISA USR sportster modem? |
| 02:55.41 | abrotman | oh screw it |
| 02:55.41 | sussudio | !botabuse |
| 02:55.41 | mun3 | uh oh. you broke it. |
| 02:55.41 | dpkg | lay off me you buggerererers!!11! |
| 02:55.41 | bur[n]er | is the tty that X is set to use in a different file? |
| 02:55.41 | abrotman | !im sorry |
| 02:55.41 | abrotman | !sorry |
| 02:55.41 | dpkg | methinks sorry is Don't be sorry...But if you ever go against the Debian Family again... |
| 02:55.54 | abrotman | bur[n]er: perhaps |
| 02:56.03 | abrotman | i dont know enough about morphix |
| 02:56.06 | anonobomber | !tell abrotman about lame |
| 02:56.19 | vladkao | bur[n]er: you need to read a little bit more of the debian faq |
| 02:56.20 | anonobomber | hmm, wrong lame lol |
| 02:56.22 | bur[n]er | right on, i appreciate the help in any event... it's more than i new about runlevels |
| 02:56.25 | abrotman | anonobomber: the encoder? |
| 02:56.27 | dondelelcaro | anonobomber, abrotman: could both of you lay off the bot, please... |
| 02:56.29 | abrotman | i know about that |
| 02:56.34 | bur[n]er | will do... thank you all |
| 02:56.35 | mun3 | !nickometer mun3 |
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| 02:56.44 | dondelelcaro | mun3: you can /msg the bot. |
| 02:56.52 | mun3 | dondelelcaro: ah, i apologize. |
| 02:56.53 | mith | !botabuse |
| 02:56.53 | dpkg | lay off me you buggerererers!!11! |
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| 02:57.00 | abrotman | cafuego: i thought you stabbed it |
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| 02:57.31 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: but isn't ftp the antithesis of leet? |
| 02:57.42 | sussudio | cafuego: mieters! |
| 02:57.56 | Piggy | jottum! |
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| 02:58.06 | abrotman | cafuego: how many times have you told people that ftp is insecure? and they should use scp? |
| 02:58.11 | beta3 | dondelelcaro: I thought leet + ftp == warez |
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| 02:58.45 | lipe | q |
| 02:58.54 | abrotman | any germans around? |
| 02:59.08 | abrotman | or german speakers |
| 02:59.10 | anonobomber | abrotman, /who *.de |
| 02:59.22 | abrotman | i just thought id ask |
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| 02:59.34 | groulder | is it safe to remove the debian-sys-maint user from a mysql installation? |
| 02:59.40 | abrotman | look .. theres one now |
| 02:59.55 | abrotman | nwo_: how would you pronounce mutter with the dots over the u? |
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| 03:00.12 | sussudio | mooter |
| 03:00.21 | abrotman | like .. apt-get moo? |
| 03:00.26 | sussudio | ja |
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| 03:00.42 | abrotman | sussudio: theres a mutter museum here in philly |
| 03:01.05 | groulder | dat ist not nine a boobie. |
| 03:01.05 | abrotman | and they have the dots over the u |
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