| 00:00.07 | relaxed | 2.6.5 is in unstable |
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| 00:00.30 | PhatTaco | well, how would i tell it to use a specified cursor theme? |
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| 00:00.37 | Justin | mozilla uses my X cursor theme just fine... |
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| 00:01.54 | phogg | PhatTaco: I dunno man, I didn't do it |
| 00:03.18 | tuxipuxi | night all |
| 00:03.26 | simonrvn | PhatTaco: did you restart x since you made the ~/.Xresources file? |
| 00:03.32 | PhatTaco | yes |
| 00:04.06 | PhatTaco | the regular cusro and the hourglass work fine just not the cursor with a hourglass |
| 00:04.17 | simonrvn | PhatTaco: cursor theme works here... um mozilla too.. you might need that index.theme file for it. though i think it's gtk-like in behaviour |
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| 00:07.39 | PhatTaco | simonrvn: my theme doesn seem to have a index.theme file. |
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| 00:08.23 | CesarBR | ermm can someone tell me how do I enable alsa to all users? actually just root can hear sounds here |
| 00:08.40 | PhatTaco | add your user to audio group |
| 00:08.44 | simonrvn | PhatTaco: you don't really need one anyway. only kde does |
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| 00:09.20 | PhatTaco | simonrvn: ur using the jaguarx theme right? |
| 00:09.44 | CesarBR | PhatTaco: how? :P |
| 00:09.51 | simonrvn | yup |
| 00:09.55 | simonrvn | CesarBR: |
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| 00:09.58 | simonrvn | !+audio |
| 00:09.58 | dpkg | To configure sound in Debian: first, use modconf to load your driver. Then add yourself to the audio group (adduser username audio) and logout and back in. If you use ISA PnP and 2.2.x, ask me about "isapnp sound". If you don't know what driver to use, start with "lspci -v" and "pnpdump". Install a mixer (e.g. gmix) and make sure the volume is not set to zero in software. If you have no modules, ask me about "idepci". |
| 00:10.00 | PhatTaco | adduser (your user here) audio |
| 00:10.40 | dampjam | apache will not start when I put the load module into httpd.conf, in the apache logs it says "PHP fatal error: unable to start session mm odule in unknown on line 0" |
| 00:10.40 | dampjam | ideas? |
| 00:10.42 | PhatTaco | simonrvn: does the cursor with the circle color thingy animate? |
| 00:10.58 | simonrvn | yup |
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| 00:11.07 | PhatTaco | well thats not it then |
| 00:11.14 | simonrvn | PhatTaco: you need xfree 4.3.0 to do that stuff |
| 00:11.23 | simonrvn | cursor theme and such |
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| 00:11.33 | PhatTaco | how do i tell what version i have |
| 00:11.51 | simonrvn | dpkg -l xserver-xfree86 |
| 00:11.52 | dpkg | ii xserver-xfree86 1.6-3.1 simonrvn's private gamp collection |
| 00:11.58 | simonrvn | dpkg: you wish |
| 00:11.59 | dpkg | simonrvn: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 00:12.02 | simonrvn | dpkg: yes |
| 00:12.03 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, yes is no, or the opposite of no, or a prog-rock group |
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| 00:12.19 | hacim | hrm, so other people were able to successfully extract the UT demo? |
| 00:12.20 | Manoj_ | we have a new dpl |
| 00:12.26 | simonrvn | dpkg: at least on your hdd it is |
| 00:12.26 | dpkg | i haven't a clue, simonrvn |
| 00:12.27 | hacim | who? |
| 00:12.28 | Manoj_ | well, the old dpl for a new term |
| 00:12.38 | simonrvn | Manoj_: whosit? |
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| 00:12.42 | hacim | Manoj_: whosi? |
| 00:12.42 | simonrvn | ok |
| 00:13.04 | simonrvn | Manoj_: good evening btw :) |
| 00:13.05 | Manoj_ | hackeron: tbm |
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| 00:13.23 | dampjam | sorry if anybody replied, I was booted |
| 00:13.29 | dampjam | did anybody have ideas? |
| 00:13.38 | Manoj_ | eeks. hacim: Martin Michlmayr |
| 00:13.40 | simonrvn | dampjam: ideas on what? |
| 00:13.41 | PhatTaco | simonrvn: i have 4.3 so whats its problem? |
| 00:13.46 | simonrvn | PhatTaco: np |
| 00:14.23 | dampjam | whenever I try to start php with the load module in httpd.conf I get this error in the apache logs: php fatal error unable to start session mm module in unkown on line 0 and then apache fails to start |
| 00:14.43 | hacim | all hail tbm! |
| 00:14.59 | hackeron | Manoj_: ? |
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| 00:15.12 | FieldySnuts | :) |
| 00:15.42 | bedboi | anyone knows where i can get cool openoffice impress templates? |
| 00:15.43 | bedboi | ? |
| 00:15.59 | simonrvn | dampjam: php4 and apache don't play nice together. blame php for that, cuz it isn't thread-safe (esp. newer versions) |
| 00:16.21 | simonrvn | bedboi: google maybe, or the oo.o site? |
| 00:16.30 | hacim | why does something like UT have to be distributed in an annoying format that wont allow me to extract it when it is just a shell script wrapped around a tar file? |
| 00:16.31 | Blissex | bedboi: there should be some with OOo itself, or StarOffice 7. Also, you an try importing MS PP ones. |
| 00:16.40 | phogg | bedboi: if by "cool" you mean "slapped together by an amature and so bad they hurt" than STILL I cannot help you |
| 00:16.42 | dampjam | I did google everybody says something different worked and none seem to work for me, anybody know a quick fix/ |
| 00:16.53 | Blissex | hacim: because they are trying to be ``user friendly''? |
| 00:16.58 | Manoj_ | hackeron: silly nick completion error |
| 00:17.08 | simonrvn | dampjam: does apache start at all? |
| 00:17.43 | bedboi | ok so please s/cool// |
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| 00:17.55 | bedboi | i just need "good taste" templates :) |
| 00:18.05 | dampjam | it starts without loading php ad a module |
| 00:18.12 | dampjam | as soon as I uncomment the line it fails starting |
| 00:18.48 | simonrvn | dampjam: what version of debian is this? are the apache and php4 packages official ones? |
| 00:18.56 | dampjam | yes everythin official 3.0 stable |
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| 00:19.07 | simonrvn | oh boy |
| 00:19.14 | chacha | whats the equivalent of redhat's "wall", or unix's "pop" in debian? |
| 00:19.33 | hacim | anyone know where there is a UT support channel? |
| 00:19.33 | simonrvn | wall, pop |
| 00:19.40 | chacha | simonrvn, sure? i dont see them |
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| 00:19.50 | simonrvn | echo 'foo bar at you too' | wall =) |
| 00:20.14 | sidicas | I've been having troubles getting xserver-xfree86 4.3 working.. I tried a 2.6 kernel-image and when that didn't work, a manual recompile.. Still no luck.. It goes into 640x480 mode and you can't increase or decrese it.. Crashes after about 30 sec. DRI is also disabled. Spent all day working on it.. Gave up and went back to version 4.1 and have no problems. I have an old Radeon 7000 card. |
| 00:20.18 | chacha | simonrvn, thanks |
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| 00:20.58 | dampjam | simonrvn: anymore ideas? |
| 00:21.05 | buckz | is there a quick way to upgrade to kernel 2.4 when i used a cd-iso with 2.2 kernel? |
| 00:21.18 | simonrvn | dampjam: ask on the debian-apache mailing list |
| 00:21.21 | buckz | are those debian-kernel-patches what i am looking for? |
| 00:21.26 | dampjam | there are a few entires about it |
| 00:21.35 | dampjam | nobody really knows howt hey fix it but a few random things work |
| 00:21.39 | dampjam | none of which worked for me |
| 00:21.41 | simonrvn | dampjam: though i suggest you look in the archives first. might be an answer there |
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| 00:22.03 | dampjam | that's what I was saying in the archives |
| 00:22.08 | simonrvn | dampjam: maybe try to reinstall the php4 package? |
| 00:22.14 | simonrvn | packages * |
| 00:22.16 | Manoj_ | http://master.debian.org/~srivasta/leader2004_results.txt |
| 00:22.26 | simonrvn | cool, thanks Manoj_ |
| 00:22.39 | Varg_ | what do those logs entries mean: access denied: tty ':XYZ' is not secure |
| 00:22.51 | dampjam | tried a few times |
| 00:22.56 | simonrvn | something fucked with your ttys |
| 00:23.00 | dampjam | and apache a few times |
| 00:23.11 | Varg_ | simonrvn, like what? |
| 00:23.16 | simonrvn | dampjam: try a --purge and install for php |
| 00:23.16 | buckz | where can i get the debian kernel package 2.4bf18? |
| 00:23.16 | Manoj_ | http://master.debian.org/~srivasta/leader2004.html has more details, including the tally sheet and a list of people who voted. |
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| 00:23.26 | greycat | buckz: packages.debian.org |
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| 00:23.33 | simonrvn | Varg_: look further into your logs, like auth.log for instance |
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| 00:23.59 | doru | hello there ... |
| 00:24.01 | doru | i run a 2.6.5 kernel and when i try to load alsa modules it something about some unknown symbols ... why could this be? |
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| 00:24.07 | Varg_ | simonrvn, I get it for each login (via kdm) and each su (from a konsole) |
| 00:24.18 | buckz | greycat thanks |
| 00:24.47 | simonrvn | Varg_: what happens when you do it from console (aka "text mode") or xterm? |
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| 00:25.01 | Varg_ | simonrvn, lemme se |
| 00:25.55 | greycat | Manoj_: when you post the results like that, it would be nice to have a recap of which option each number corresponds to. E.g. I can deduce that option 3 must have been Martin M. but that's not immediately obvious when reading the top part of the page. |
| 00:26.06 | Varg_ | simonrvn, no log entry at all |
| 00:26.21 | Manoj_ | greycat: sorry; http://vote.debian.org/2004/vote_001 |
| 00:26.27 | doru | if i have some "unknown symbols" when i try to load a module for a freshly compiled kernel ... what could the most probable reason be? |
| 00:26.52 | sidicas | doru: Modules don't match the kernel? |
| 00:27.00 | mati_ | i think that the default locale setting pl_PL has the decimal separator set wrong, because in poland we use ',' as a decimal separator, not '.' like most of you guys do. where to change it? |
| 00:27.05 | greycat | Manoj_: now that's even *more* confusing. |
| 00:27.32 | Manoj_ | er. true |
| 00:27.33 | Varg_ | simonrvn, seems to be limited to X-related logins and su's |
| 00:27.36 | greycat | http://master.debian.org/~srivasta/leader2004_results.txt says 'Option 3 "Martin Michlmayr"' |
| 00:27.39 | sidicas | doru: Are you sure you compiled and installed the modules also? |
| 00:27.41 | Manoj_ | Hmm. the vote page is not in ballot order. |
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| 00:27.56 | g4lt | Manoj_ no sore losers this time? ;) |
| 00:27.56 | greycat | http://vote.debian.org/2004/vote_001 says '3. Branden Robinson' |
| 00:27.57 | doru | sidicas , that could not be ... i just compiled it ... could it be because the versioning support thing? |
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| 00:28.00 | sidicas | doru: Might be an old alsa module? |
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| 00:28.12 | Manoj_ | I need to enhance devotee to put the ballot somewhere in the results |
| 00:28.17 | doru | sidicas : well .. it comes with the kernel ... 2.6.5 |
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| 00:28.32 | sidicas | doru: Ah.. well I dunno then sorry :-> |
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| 00:30.40 | mati_ | am i starting to vanish or is everyone ignoring me? |
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| 00:31.13 | simonrvn | w000t ACCEPT from IP=66.11.161.129:38432 (IP=0.0.0.0:636) |
| 00:31.15 | Manoj_ | greaycat: Option 1: Gergely Nagy, Option 2: Branden Robinson, Option 3: Martin Michlmayr. Option 4: None of the above |
| 00:31.16 | simonrvn | :) |
| 00:31.19 | sidicas | mati_: I have no idea, never needed to change it before |
| 00:31.31 | Varg_ | simonrvn, any idea? |
| 00:31.59 | doji | what is wiki? |
| 00:32.07 | hacim | doji: dict wiki |
| 00:32.08 | CesarBR | how do I install my nvidia drivers on my custom kernel? I've already got nvidia-kernel-source |
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| 00:32.21 | simonrvn | Varg_: well my brain needs food right now, but does this hapen every time, or just this one xsession? and what version of kde and xfree do you have? |
| 00:32.27 | simonrvn | @+dict wiki |
| 00:32.30 | ravenbird | could not find definition for wiki |
| 00:32.35 | simonrvn | !+dict wiki |
| 00:32.37 | dpkg | could not find definition for wiki |
| 00:32.37 | Darkintent | how do i adjust the system volume? |
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| 00:32.42 | simonrvn | !+wiki |
| 00:32.42 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, wiki is either wiki.debian.net a place where you get help or from WikiWikiWeb, the author system behind most wikis. wiki is derived from the hawaiian wiki wiki which means hurry or fast. |
| 00:32.52 | Varg_ | simonrvn, everytime with kde and X from unstable (as is the rest of the system) |
| 00:32.54 | simonrvn | Darkintent: with a mixer |
| 00:33.20 | simonrvn | Varg_: what kernel? |
| 00:33.24 | mati_ | sidicas: i think this may be a bug or there is something wrong with my perl. is there a way to actually see locale settings? and i don't mean running locale |
| 00:33.28 | Varg_ | 2.6.5 from kernel.org |
| 00:33.36 | simonrvn | Varg_: home brew? |
| 00:33.39 | doru | hmmm ... how can i see the kernel symbol table? |
| 00:33.45 | myren__ | m is mark in debian, right? how do i go to a mark. |
| 00:33.47 | Varg_ | simonrvn, yes |
| 00:33.49 | doji | !+linux |
| 00:33.50 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, linux is closed |
| 00:33.59 | doji | !+pam |
| 00:33.59 | dpkg | somebody said pam was the Pluggable Authentication Modules. Check http://www.us.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/ for more information. Linux-PAM SysAdmin's Guide is at http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/Linux-PAM-html/pam.html. PAM Always Malfunctions |
| 00:34.06 | doji | wow |
| 00:34.25 | g4lt | !factinfo linux |
| 00:34.25 | dpkg | linux -- created by linux <jim@earth.laney.edu> at Sun Mar 26 08:59:07 2000 (1476 days); it has been requested 227 times, last by doji, 35s ago; it has been locked by linux. |
| 00:34.36 | simonrvn | Varg_: check to see if you have CONFIG_UNIX98_PTYS=y |
| 00:34.36 | simonrvn | CONFIG_LEGACY_PTYS=y |
| 00:34.42 | doji | !+tcpwrappers |
| 00:34.49 | FieldySnuts | !lart doji |
| 00:34.50 | Varg_ | simonrvn, one minute |
| 00:34.50 | doji | !+tcpwrapper |
| 00:34.52 | g4lt | !forget linux |
| 00:34.53 | dpkg | g4lt: cannot alter locked factoids |
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| 00:34.57 | doru | anyone ... please ... a tool to see the kernel symbol table .. |
| 00:34.59 | simonrvn | doji: System.map IIRC |
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| 00:35.14 | simonrvn | ur, doru not doji |
| 00:35.14 | CesarBR | how do I install my nvidia drivers on my custom kernel? I've already got nvidia-kernel-source, now what should I do? |
| 00:35.14 | g4lt | WTF uhm dondelelcaro, you know of this locked factoid? |
| 00:35.15 | sidicas | mati_: You should be able to generate local's manually (without the dpkg-reconfigure locale), but it's pretty tricky |
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| 00:35.29 | doru | simonrvn , 10x |
| 00:35.38 | simonrvn | doji: please stop with the bot, thanks |
| 00:35.39 | Varg_ | simonrvn, # CONFIG_LEGACY_PTYS is not set |
| 00:35.48 | simonrvn | Varg_: xterm needs that |
| 00:35.56 | simonrvn | Varg_: so might konsole |
| 00:36.06 | Varg_ | simonrvn, alrighty, I'll try that, thnx! |
| 00:36.10 | simonrvn | ( yes that's broken ) |
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| 00:36.15 | simonrvn | behaviour |
| 00:36.19 | simonrvn | Varg_: ok |
| 00:36.22 | Darkintent | :( |
| 00:36.36 | mati_ | sidicas: maybe i just can edit the teplate for pl_PL and then generate it by dpkg-reconfigure, but where are the templates? |
| 00:36.40 | Darkintent | my volume is low |
| 00:36.47 | simonrvn | Darkintent: so turn it up |
| 00:36.53 | g4lt | simonrvn looks like we missed a bit in cleaning up dpkg :( |
| 00:36.56 | Darkintent | and i cant seem to raise it |
| 00:37.00 | simonrvn | maybe rasing the volume on your speakers too =) |
| 00:37.05 | simonrvn | raising* |
| 00:37.11 | simonrvn | g4lt: :( |
| 00:37.13 | mati_ | sidicas: or maybe this is not as easy as i think :-) |
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| 00:37.30 | simonrvn | g4lt: easy to miss stuff with 20000+ factoids |
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| 00:37.47 | Darkintent | ive done that |
| 00:37.47 | doru | ok ... could it be a problem if i compiled the alsa core inside the kernel but the stuff for my soundcard outside it, as modules?? |
| 00:38.00 | simonrvn | doru: shouldn't matter |
| 00:38.00 | CesarBR | how do I install my nvidia drivers on my custom kernel? I've already got nvidia-kernel-source, now what should I do? please :D |
| 00:38.15 | SpandoFando | Darkintent: you've raised the system volume on PCM and MIXER? |
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| 00:38.25 | simonrvn | CesarBR: you build it, and read the documentation that comes with the package |
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| 00:38.39 | doru | simonrvn , strange, coz the symbols it doesn't find when loading the module are inside the kernel |
| 00:38.41 | holycow | how do i find out the bus id of the video cards on the system? hopefully in the format of BusId "PCI:2:0:0" ? |
| 00:38.58 | simonrvn | doru: they should be there. took a look at the system.map? |
| 00:39.05 | doru | yes |
| 00:39.07 | Darkintent | do i go to sound system |
| 00:39.08 | mati_ | holycow: lspci? |
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| 00:39.21 | simonrvn | doru: try doing it with ksymoops maybe |
| 00:39.40 | simonrvn | Darkintent: you mean for kde? |
| 00:39.45 | Darkintent | yes |
| 00:39.51 | g4lt | holycow cat /proc/pci gives you a bit better info |
| 00:39.55 | CesarBR | simonrvn: I don't know where it went after I apt-got it :P |
| 00:40.06 | Justin | !tell holycow about set up x |
| 00:40.15 | simonrvn | CesarBR: /usr/src, and /usr/share/doc/<package name> |
| 00:40.21 | CesarBR | thx |
| 00:40.29 | Bridger | guys, have you thought we're "the generation" of the computation era? |
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| 00:40.34 | doji | please tell me: how to connect to new server via command, /server -m irc.freenode.net is not working?? |
| 00:40.35 | doru | simonrvn , the symbols are there ... could the "module versioning support" be causing such problems? |
| 00:40.43 | Whizziwig | anyone have any experience with mkisofs bithcing about the IFO/VOB pad size? |
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| 00:41.15 | Darkintent | how would i do it through the cmd |
| 00:41.16 | dampjam | does anybody know what the package name is in debian for mm |
| 00:41.17 | holycow | justin, nothin theare about twinview, but thx |
| 00:41.33 | simonrvn | doru: possibility exists, but not usually |
| 00:41.42 | mbjones | What file do I edit (like my .bashrc), but when I login via SSH? (I want to make an alias for ls to do colors, but when I SSH in, it doesn't load .bashrc) |
| 00:42.01 | greycat | ~/.bashrc |
| 00:42.02 | apt | ~/.bashrc is where you put all your aliases and functions. It's read at start-up time by all interactive non-login shells. To make sure it's read by a login shell, put "source ~/.bashrc" at the end of ~/.bash_profile |
| 00:42.02 | simonrvn | doru: you *are* on irc.freenode.net :) |
| 00:42.22 | simonrvn | doru: sorry bad tab completion |
| 00:42.28 | mbjones | thanks |
| 00:42.28 | simonrvn | doji: you *are* on irc.freenode.net :) |
| 00:42.29 | Justin | holycow: i guess reading nvidias documentation is above you |
| 00:42.32 | holycow | mati_, that works but doesnt return the bus id... not sure what the prefix numbers mean under lspci |
| 00:42.33 | extremescholar | dampjam: apt-cache search mm or maybe dpkg -S mm, assuming it's intalled |
| 00:42.42 | Darkintent | ?? |
| 00:42.53 | dampjam | apt-cache turns up nothign useful |
| 00:42.55 | Unbeliever_ | Even at 2am, the linucks keeps on flowing |
| 00:42.59 | doru | simonrvn , the thing is that i got a similar thing on gentoo ... apparently out of nowhere ... |
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| 00:43.02 | holycow | nvidias docs are fine, they don't tell you how to identify the bus id of each vid card tho |
| 00:43.16 | simonrvn | doru: try building them as modules. see what happens |
| 00:43.24 | extremescholar | dampjam: what might mm be? |
| 00:43.26 | buckz | sorry for asking this but it's a language barrier.. i used apt-get to install kernel-image2.6 and it says i need initrd .. i tried this once before and the system hung.. now it says i need to add the initrd=/initrd.img to the image/vmlinuz stanza.. i don;t know what stanza means... do i put the line beneath the image=/vmlinuz or on the same line after it? and do i have to create the initrd.img file or will it be created by apt-get? |
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| 00:43.34 | doru | simonrvn , the quick and dirty solution then was to build them inside the kernel ... |
| 00:43.36 | sidicas | mati_: You could try playing around with the ISO-8859-2 charmap I guess, see if you can find anything.. I really don't know :-). Are you sure it's a bug? |
| 00:43.48 | mati_ | holycow: scrool up and see what g4lt wrote |
| 00:43.53 | simonrvn | doru: built the wrong driver maybe? |
| 00:43.59 | g4lt | mbjones you also need to enable UseLogin in the remote's /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 00:44.14 | holycow | oh heh :) missed that! |
| 00:44.19 | dampjam | http://www.ossp.org/pkg/lib/mm/ is the site for mm, and you need it to run php with apache, theyr'e failing together so I need ot makeusre mm is working |
| 00:44.32 | doru | simonrvn , nope ... the problem isn't the driver ... anyway 10x ... i'll hack my way into it ... |
| 00:44.35 | greycat | g4lt: no, he just needs to uncmoment the .bashrc line in .bash_profile |
| 00:44.45 | simonrvn | dampjam: see if there's some debianised version of that |
| 00:44.52 | simonrvn | doru: good luck |
| 00:44.55 | mati_ | sidicas: well no, i'm not sure. i'll post to debian.pl or something like this. maybe they had similar problems |
| 00:44.56 | g4lt | greycat man sshd_config. UseLogin isn't on by default.... |
| 00:45.02 | greycat | g4lt: so what? |
| 00:45.21 | Darkintent | how do i adjust the system sound from kde or the command prompt |
| 00:45.22 | greycat | g4lt: he still gets bash, as a login shell, therefore "-bash" in argv[0], therefore it reads .bash_profile. |
| 00:45.32 | simonrvn | Darkintent: use a mixer |
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| 00:45.40 | simonrvn | Darkintent: kmix or such thing |
| 00:45.40 | g4lt | greycat NO, UseLogin specifies if login(1) is used |
| 00:45.48 | greycat | g4lt: login(1) is not relevant! |
| 00:46.05 | greycat | g4lt: all that's relevant is argv[0] of bash(1) |
| 00:46.10 | extremescholar | dampjam: as I recall from the last time I muck about with php, you need to enable php in you apache configs |
| 00:46.11 | g4lt | greycat it defines whether .bashrc or .profile is used |
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| 00:46.13 | sidicas | Is the problem in UTF 8 or ISO-8859-2? The charmaps are very human editable, that's a great place to start. |
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| 00:46.29 | Darkintent | where do i go to load mixers and such |
| 00:46.40 | dampjam | yea I know whenever I tell httpd to load the php module it fails becuase without mm they try to write to the same memeoryh |
| 00:46.45 | extremescholar | dampjam: it's come module setting. Usually you get a warning about it though |
| 00:46.53 | mati_ | sidicas: iso, will look into those charmaps |
| 00:47.14 | g4lt | greycat .bashrc is ONLY used if bash is forked from login(1) |
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| 00:47.40 | sidicas | mati_: /usr/share/i18n/charmaps |
| 00:47.41 | greycat | g4lt: no, .bashrc is used by every non-login shell. That includes xterm, "!bash" from vim, etc. |
| 00:48.00 | simonrvn | .bash_profile is used from login |
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| 00:48.38 | greycat | .bash_profile is used when bash *is a login shell*, which is *independent* of whether sshd(8) uses login(1) authentication or its own built-in authentication |
| 00:48.46 | Bridger | como puedo poner una consola con fbuffer a 1024 ? |
| 00:49.14 | Bridger | sorry |
| 00:49.20 | Bridger | I didn't want to say that :P |
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| 00:49.31 | mati_ | sidicas: thanks |
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| 00:50.05 | sidicas | mati_: Just don't edit your only copy :-) |
| 00:50.20 | extremescholar | dampjam: are you on woody, sarge, sid? |
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| 00:51.09 | Darkintent | hello |
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| 00:51.43 | simonrvn | Darkintent: in your kde menu. in multimedia |
| 00:51.50 | Bridger | how can I set a framebuffer console at 1024x768 resolution? |
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| 00:52.59 | g4lt | Bridger fbset |
| 00:53.03 | simonrvn | fbdev driver in x config, and set up modes |
| 00:53.09 | simonrvn | fbset -x |
| 00:53.11 | Bridger | debian:~# fbset |
| 00:53.11 | Bridger | open /dev/fb0: No such device |
| 00:53.18 | extremescholar | Bridger: in you lilo.conf append="video=aty128fb:1024x768@76" or something similar, I have an ATI card |
| 00:53.22 | g4lt | Bridger you'e screwed |
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| 00:53.39 | simonrvn | do you have framebuffer support? and you can mknod fb0 |
| 00:53.48 | KarlosII | is the new X available in debian yet? |
| 00:53.56 | simonrvn | KarlosII: as in? |
| 00:54.06 | KarlosII | x.org? |
| 00:54.12 | g4lt | KarlosII the one that's less than 48 hours old? |
| 00:54.12 | Bridger | so I have Framebuffer disabled ? |
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| 00:54.27 | KarlosII | not XFREE the one that debian is now embracing |
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| 00:54.33 | simonrvn | Bridger: you need to make the /dev/fb* device files first |
| 00:54.36 | Bridger | g4lt : so I have fb disabled? |
| 00:54.38 | spoofer | Hi all after some configuration mistakes on a specific package I would like to start the installation again. I did a apt-get remove package --purge and now when I apt-get install package debconf doesn't start to configure the package again.. any ideas? |
| 00:54.46 | Bridger | simonrvn : how do I do that |
| 00:54.47 | simonrvn | KarlosII: RSN, and WIR |
| 00:54.52 | Bridger | mknod /dev/fb0 |
| 00:54.53 | Bridger | ? |
| 00:54.54 | simonrvn | Bridger: man MAKEDEV |
| 00:54.55 | Bridger | just that? |
| 00:55.00 | simonrvn | no |
| 00:55.01 | g4lt | KarlosII yes, the one that's 2 fucking days old. what the hell do you want, a fucking miracle? |
| 00:55.02 | Darkintent | its still not working |
| 00:55.14 | Darkintent | :(( |
| 00:55.26 | simonrvn | Darkintent: do you have a mixer installed at all? apt-get install aumix kmix |
| 00:55.41 | simonrvn | Darkintent: did you do: |
| 00:55.52 | simonrvn | !tell Darkintent -about audio |
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| 00:55.57 | KarlosII | g4lt, of course... :) Now that I know is only 2 days old I'll wait patiently, thank you for explaining it so explicity and unintelligently |
| 00:56.04 | g4lt | you realize that X takes about 48 hours to simply compile on some arches? |
| 00:56.17 | casper | where can i download debian iso ? |
| 00:56.26 | KarlosII | casper www.debian.org |
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| 00:56.42 | sidicas | casper: www.debian.org |
| 00:56.45 | sativas | J #gentoo |
| 00:56.46 | casper | KarlosII: is it live cd ? |
| 00:56.50 | g4lt | casper contrary to miracle-boy over here, try cdimage.debian.org |
| 00:56.58 | KarlosII | casper if you want live then goto #kanotix |
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| 00:57.21 | casper | live can also work through wireless ? |
| 00:57.26 | KarlosII | yes |
| 00:57.40 | casper | ok |
| 00:57.44 | Bridger | what's the function to clear screan on C? |
| 00:57.44 | locsmif | g4lt : what miracles can you perform : besides brilliantly typing urls |
| 00:57.49 | Bridger | what's the function to clear screen on C? |
| 00:57.58 | KarlosII | kanotix livecd does bette then knoppix at hardware detetcting |
| 00:58.01 | simonrvn | @tell Bridger -about repeat |
| 00:58.10 | simonrvn | Bridger: try #c |
| 00:58.11 | Bridger | simonrvn : I just replaced one word man |
| 00:58.13 | g4lt | locsmif I can make morons disappear.... |
| 00:58.26 | locsmif | kick yourself then....... |
| 00:58.28 | Darkintent | i have kmix installed |
| 00:58.30 | simonrvn | (00:57) < Bridger> what's the function to clear screan on C? (00:57) < Bridger> what's the function to clear screen on C? |
| 00:58.39 | Bridger | I just replaced one letter |
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| 00:58.44 | KarlosII | g4lt, I guess you don't want to make yourself dissappear |
| 00:58.46 | Bridger | what's wrong? |
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| 00:58.53 | simonrvn | Bridger: s/screan/screen/ is easier and less annoying :) |
| 00:58.54 | mati_ | sidicas: it seems that it is a perl issue as charmap says that the character code used in pl_PL in locales is comma, not dot. also the KDE command center says that a comma is used |
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| 00:59.12 | ShadowRage | how does the hotswap daemon work on debian? |
| 00:59.12 | simonrvn | Bridger: i need new glasses too =) |
| 00:59.16 | steven | hey, why when try to open xcdroast as root it says Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: |
| 00:59.20 | sidicas | mati_: Very Interesting :-) |
| 00:59.20 | mati_ | sidicas : thank you, will troll #perl now :-) |
| 00:59.20 | Bridger | simonrvn : ok.. sorry if your life was in risk |
| 00:59.26 | simonrvn | Bridger: hehehe |
| 00:59.27 | sidicas | mati_: ha.. |
| 00:59.36 | carrett | is there a howto for setting up exim to use fetchmail and send outgoing mail to a remote server? |
| 00:59.39 | g4lt | steven try gksu |
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| 00:59.47 | ShadowRage | I have a slackware machine that has a hotswap bay for ide drives.. and there's a package on debian for a program that allows ide hotswapping |
| 01:00.01 | g4lt | !run stuff as root |
| 01:00.01 | dpkg | methinks run stuff as root is "export XAUTHORITY=$HOME/.Xauthority" before you su, and DO NOT use "su -", or ask me about "sshx", or ask me about "mit-magic-cookie". |
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| 01:00.12 | simonrvn | !+sux |
| 01:00.12 | dpkg | i heard sux is su with xauth, to run X apps as root : http://fgouget.free.fr/sux/ or sucks, or "I have an exagerrated opinion about something I don't really know much about." |
| 01:00.13 | g4lt | other ways ^^^^ |
| 01:00.33 | simonrvn | !sux is also apt-get install sux |
| 01:00.34 | dpkg | okay, simonrvn |
| 01:00.58 | steven | g4lt: it doesnt exist gksu |
| 01:01.04 | newblar | Hi do .deb files contain the tar.gz file in it? |
| 01:01.09 | carrett | !carrett |
| 01:01.10 | g4lt | ?! the hell it doesn't |
| 01:01.12 | sidicas | Darkintent: What's your problem with kmix? |
| 01:01.19 | carrett | ~carrett |
| 01:01.20 | apt | [carrett] cool |
| 01:01.21 | simonrvn | newblar: .debs are ar archives |
| 01:01.36 | frevidar | I have a number of program which send HTTP requests to both web servers and web proxies. Is it possible to transparently intercept those requests and send them to a set of web proxies in a round robin fashion? |
| 01:01.43 | simonrvn | newblar: and they have 2 tarballs in them, data.tar.gz and control.tar.gz |
| 01:01.51 | g4lt | wait, in woody isn't ti gnome-su? |
| 01:01.57 | simonrvn | possibly |
| 01:02.00 | OBcecado | can anyone tell me a good and fast graphical interface to run in a p166 with 64mb ram ? |
| 01:02.09 | carrett | ~carrett |
| 01:02.10 | apt | it has been said that carrett is cool, or the coolest kid ever |
| 01:02.10 | greycat | FVWM |
| 01:02.17 | simonrvn | ... |
| 01:02.27 | g4lt | ~forget carrett |
| 01:02.27 | apt | i forgot carrett, g4lt |
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| 01:02.31 | g4lt | enough |
| 01:02.35 | carrett | sorry |
| 01:02.36 | simonrvn | beat me to it |
| 01:02.48 | newblar | simonrvn: so it wouldn't contain the source file itself? |
| 01:03.00 | sidicas | OBcecado: You could also try fluxbox |
| 01:03.13 | steven | g4lt: so what should i do |
| 01:03.22 | OBcecado | where can i get it and read about it ? |
| 01:03.39 | g4lt | steven how many options do simonrvn and I have to give you? |
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| 01:03.46 | rox | what's the best way to make statistics for disk access by all the apps running? |
| 01:03.57 | sidicas | just type fluxbox into google :-) |
| 01:04.02 | OBcecado | k, thanks |
| 01:04.06 | greycat | rox: iostat |
| 01:04.29 | OBcecado | if i need help (most probabbly) is this the right channel to ask, or there's one more suitable ? |
| 01:04.39 | g4lt | carrett if you want to learn how to make/edit factoids, join #debian-bots |
| 01:04.51 | carrett | g4lt: thanks. |
| 01:04.58 | sidicas | OBcecado: If it's Debian related, here is fine |
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| 01:05.16 | OBcecado | k, thanks for help :-) |
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| 01:05.54 | carrett | anyone know where i can figure out/how to setup exim/exim4 to use fetchmail and to relay all outgoing mail to a remote SMTP host? |
| 01:06.08 | aek | How do I specify both TCP and UDP port with iptables? |
| 01:06.15 | simonrvn | carrett: dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config and set it up as a smarthost |
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| 01:06.30 | Debnoob | I rebooted my system for the first time in a long time and my internet is no longer configured on boot |
| 01:06.38 | extremescholar | aek: two seperate lines? |
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| 01:06.49 | Debnoob | I can put it up manually using dhcclient |
| 01:06.53 | aek | extremescholar: messy :P must be a 1 liner |
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| 01:06.55 | carrett | simonrvn: do i just add fetchmail as a cron job or something? |
| 01:06.57 | Debnoob | but I'm not sure what's changed |
| 01:07.01 | Debnoob | anyone know? |
| 01:07.06 | simonrvn | aek: either in 2 separate rules, or don't specify a prootcol. the latter will catch *all* protocols |
| 01:07.17 | simonrvn | carrett: yeh |
| 01:07.17 | extremescholar | simonrvn: cool |
| 01:07.47 | Debnoob | pointing me to the appropriate man would be fine |
| 01:07.47 | carrett | simonrvn: do i need procmail? how do i get fetchmail to send it to the MTA? |
| 01:07.52 | aek | simonrvn: what are other protocals UDP and TCP? anything els? |
| 01:08.04 | simonrvn | aek: /etc/protocols |
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| 01:08.28 | simonrvn | carrett: start off with fecthmailconf, does an ok job |
| 01:08.33 | simonrvn | fetch* |
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| 01:09.25 | tele | udev sets wrong permission for /dev/nvidiactl (600). How could I fix it? |
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| 01:10.05 | FieldySnuts | not use udev |
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| 01:10.32 | Unbeliever_ | FieldySnuts: What's with the unhelpful answers? Nobody likes a jerk |
| 01:10.38 | FieldySnuts | :( |
| 01:10.48 | OBcecado | how do i run the .deb package where's fluxbox is ? |
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| 01:11.00 | simonrvn | tele: a) not use udev b) edit /etc/udev/links.conf |
| 01:11.01 | greycat | Unbeliever_: seems like a good answer to me. |
| 01:11.09 | FieldySnuts | thanks. |
| 01:11.19 | greycat | !doctor Unbeliever_ |
| 01:11.19 | dpkg | Unbeliever_ goes to the doctor, says "Doctor, when i do this, it hurts!" - Doctor: "Then stop doing it, Unbeliever_!" |
| 01:11.25 | FieldySnuts | haha |
| 01:11.26 | rox | greycat: thank you very much |
| 01:11.36 | simonrvn | OBcecado: man dpkg. dpkg -i |
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| 01:12.01 | simonrvn | !it hurts |
| 01:12.09 | Unbeliever_ | greycat: It's an easy way to respond to a question when you know nothing about it, and to the asker it probably seems lame. Maybe I am bitter |
| 01:12.13 | g4lt | Unbeliever_ where's YOUR helpful answer then? |
| 01:12.17 | Fire | Hi! How can i disable the ssh daemon/server? |
| 01:12.23 | g4lt | hypocrite |
| 01:12.23 | Unbeliever_ | g4lt: I don't have one, so I keep quiet. |
| 01:12.24 | tele | simonrvn: what should I change in links.conf |
| 01:12.25 | greycat | if you've been using udev or devfs, I can understand why you'd be bitter |
| 01:12.38 | rox | Fire: /etc/init.d/sshd stop |
| 01:12.40 | simonrvn | tele: oh wait, not that, but udev.permissions, sorry |
| 01:12.43 | Unbeliever_ | My best friend just hit on me, HE is not my type |
| 01:12.51 | simonrvn | greycat: hehehe |
| 01:12.51 | Fire | rox: And this will stop all ssh? i hope.. |
| 01:12.53 | rox | Fire: or just uninstall it if you wanna remove it permanently |
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| 01:13.18 | Sinistrad | Unbeliever_, I hit on my best friend all the time... |
| 01:13.22 | simonrvn | now to get my ldap back up. *finally* |
| 01:13.22 | Fire | rox: I need to unable it for some days to prevent intrusion trys. |
| 01:13.24 | tele | simonrvn: thanks |
| 01:13.33 | rox | Fire: that's the way to go then ... |
| 01:13.33 | Unbeliever_ | Sinistrad: You're a bad person |
| 01:13.35 | Fire | Btw, -> No such file or directo? huh? |
| 01:13.40 | rom | elo all ;) |
| 01:13.46 | extremescholar | Fire: dpkg-reconfigure sshd |
| 01:13.49 | rom | I have a little pb with knoppix |
| 01:13.56 | rox | Fire: how did you install the sshd then? |
| 01:13.58 | FieldySnuts | hitting on is one thing, having relations when one doesn't want it, that's bad |
| 01:13.59 | rom | can anyone help me ? please :D |
| 01:14.00 | carrett | simonrvn: ok, i configured fetchmail and it seems to be working ok. but how do i get it to send what it retrieves to exim4? |
| 01:14.01 | simonrvn | Fire: /etc/init.d/ssh |
| 01:14.02 | Scheme | What package do I need for glibc 2.3? |
| 01:14.05 | Sinistrad | Unbeliever_, naw, he likes it ... |
| 01:14.06 | greycat | rox: he can't uninstall sshd without uninstalling the client too |
| 01:14.12 | g4lt | !essentially debian |
| 01:14.12 | dpkg | i heard essentially debian is yeah, xandros, libra, knoppix are all essentially debian, but do you go to a Mistubishi dealership to get help on a Plymouth Champ, or a Volkswagen dealership to get help with a Porsche 914/4? Don't expect help from #debian with your "essentially debian" crap-distribution: either get help from your distributor or switch to full-on Debian. |
| 01:14.16 | greycat | Fire: dpkg-reconfigure ssh |
| 01:14.18 | simonrvn | carrett: man fetchmailrc, and look for mda |
| 01:14.19 | Fire | Stopping OpenBSD Secure Shell server :-) |
| 01:14.24 | carrett | simonrvn: thanks. |
| 01:14.36 | Fire | -> /etc/init.d/ssh stop was it |
| 01:14.39 | rox | Fire: /etc/init.d/ssh stop ... and throw it out of init in case the box reboots |
| 01:14.53 | greycat | Fire: "ssh stop" just stops it for now. dpkg-reconfigure ssh to stop it forever. |
| 01:14.58 | OBcecado | simonrvn thanks |
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| 01:15.00 | Fire | rox: It won't |
| 01:15.09 | Fire | grey: I need it to stop for 3-4 days. |
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| 01:15.24 | Scheme | What package do I need for glibc 2.3? |
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| 01:15.36 | rox | Fire: how did you install your sshd then? |
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| 01:15.43 | rom | + |
| 01:15.46 | Fire | rox: apt-get install ssh :-) |
| 01:15.55 | jasonpm | all of a sudden today, I am having problems starting both KDE and GNOME - I was wondering if someone could help me? |
| 01:16.15 | doji | no |
| 01:16.18 | rox | Fire: and it starts on boot? |
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| 01:16.32 | Fire | rox: Yes |
| 01:16.58 | rox | Fire: and you are using debian? |
| 01:17.27 | simonrvn | Scheme: libc6 from sarge or sid |
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| 01:18.00 | Scheme | I run woody... |
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| 01:18.23 | xerophyte | does anybody know any linux related how to written wanna shore with others on my forum :) |
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| 01:18.35 | xerophyte | hmm |
| 01:18.48 | piranha | [18:18:24] -!- Irssi: #debian: Total of 666 nicks [2 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 664 normal] |
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| 01:18.57 | rox | Fire: would you paste the of the command "cat /etc/debian_version" |
| 01:18.57 | FieldySnuts | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:18.58 | FieldySnuts | 6 6 |
| 01:19.02 | Scheme | simonrvn: can I just add a sid apt source and install sid packages on my woody install? |
| 01:19.05 | xerophyte | Does anybody have any Linux Related HowTo written and would like to post my forum? |
| 01:19.24 | Fire | rox: ok.. |
| 01:19.25 | simonrvn | Scheme: NO |
| 01:19.30 | piranha | [18:19:23] -!- Irssi: Join to #debian was synced in 66 secs |
| 01:19.30 | sidicas | jasonpm: I don't know if I can help you unless you describe the problem first |
| 01:19.32 | piranha | Wow. |
| 01:19.40 | Scheme | gay. |
| 01:19.44 | novacat | Scheme: no because woody nd sid are totaly different |
| 01:19.48 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: tell Scheme about gay |
| 01:19.51 | piranha | If I were some superstitious nut, I'd say this 2.6 upgrade was a Very Bad Idea. |
| 01:20.19 | FieldySnuts | piranha: why's that |
| 01:20.27 | simonrvn | !tell Scheme -about gay |
| 01:20.31 | jasonpm | sidicas: on "loading system devices or whatever", it sits idly for a while- i think its a problem with alsa or something.. because several minutes later it compalins about /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p being busy |
| 01:20.32 | novacat | 2.4 is good enough in my opinion, havent had much luck with the 2.6 series |
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| 01:20.47 | piranha | First that I'm user #666 in this channel, and that it synced in 66 seconds. |
| 01:21.02 | FieldySnuts | had nothing but greatness out of 2.6 here, especially -mm kernels |
| 01:21.12 | steven | what are the permissions so everyone can get into some folder |
| 01:21.17 | piranha | At least it's 2.6.5, and 2.6.6 isn't out yet. |
| 01:21.25 | FieldySnuts | if by 'get into' you mean read, 755 |
| 01:21.26 | OBcecado | i cant get fluxbox installed, if i get the tar.gz it says it's not a gzip file, if i get the .deb it says i don't have some needed dependencies |
| 01:21.26 | novacat | simonrvn: for some reason only jaguarx cursors dont work. |
| 01:21.40 | g0llum_ | !tell g0llum_ -about gay |
| 01:21.41 | simonrvn | novacat: works here |
| 01:21.47 | sidicas | jasonpm: Can you get the sound to play anything? Does it finish loading? |
| 01:21.51 | FieldySnuts | g0llum_: heh. |
| 01:21.59 | simonrvn | OBcecado: so fix the deps |
| 01:22.15 | simonrvn | OBcecado: apt-get install fluxbox |
| 01:22.20 | FieldySnuts | and it's "about" not "-about" |
| 01:22.33 | simonrvn | FieldySnuts: -about works too. shush |
| 01:22.45 | FieldySnuts | oh okay, didn't know that |
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| 01:22.57 | DanWSB | piranha: right now I'm working on a .config for 2.6.5-mm3. And I intend to use udev. I somehow don't think either of us are going to end up in good shape afterwards :) |
| 01:23.08 | FieldySnuts | udev == really bad idea |
| 01:23.09 | jasonpm | sidicas: no it does not finish loading :) thats the major problem |
| 01:23.20 | steven | FieldySnuts: sorry i mean, read and write |
| 01:23.31 | FieldySnuts | Steven 777, man chmod |
| 01:23.39 | FieldySnuts | usually, you don't want that. |
| 01:23.40 | sidicas | jasonpm: Can you play sound from the command line? Use mpg123 or something to test. |
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| 01:24.00 | OBcecado | Package fluxbox has no installation candidate (?) |
| 01:24.09 | sidicas | jasonpm: Even if your sound isn't working, kde should still load for sure.. must be something more |
| 01:24.13 | DanWSB | FieldySnuts: Well, devfs is deprecated, and a huge, static /dev is horrendous. Might as well play with udev some :) |
| 01:24.31 | jasonpm | sidicas, yeah I can still play sounds... |
| 01:24.32 | sidicas | jasonpm: You said that it just started.. Was it working before? |
| 01:24.37 | FieldySnuts | just because the config says it is depreciated doesn't mean you can't use it, i use it here no problem. |
| 01:24.41 | jasonpm | sidicas: yes, it was working yesterday |
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| 01:24.50 | sidicas | jasonpm: Change anything? |
| 01:24.53 | FieldySnuts | udev may or may not be better, the main issue is that if you have problems, you'll have a very hard time finding help |
| 01:24.55 | sidicas | jasonpm: reboot? |
| 01:25.04 | jasonpm | sidicas, and for months before hand... no, not besides the usual apt-get update/upgrade |
| 01:25.04 | FieldySnuts | from what I"ve heard udev is very far from being ready. |
| 01:25.08 | jasonpm | sidicas: lots of times |
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| 01:25.48 | sidicas | jasonpm: Are you running stable? |
| 01:25.49 | steven | why when i try to mount the cdrom it says that i am not allowed to |
| 01:25.51 | jasonpm | sidicas, okay it just finished loading.. took probably 10 minutes? |
| 01:25.59 | jasonpm | sidicas, no, sid |
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| 01:26.20 | sidicas | jasonpm: heh, yeah, prolly a bug in the package |
| 01:26.34 | sidicas | jasonpm: See if you can force a downgrade.. |
| 01:26.43 | jasonpm | sidicas, that does not explain why gnome has the same problem |
| 01:26.54 | novacat | i have a windows partiton mounted in linux but only root can access it. how can i let regular users acces and execute files on it? |
| 01:26.55 | g4lt | steven because mount was actually written by the CDROM-nazi: "No CD for you!" |
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| 01:27.05 | sidicas | jasonpm: Well, if it's a shared library like xlibs or something :-) |
| 01:27.15 | g4lt | novacat man fstab |
| 01:27.20 | saminuske | hmm for some reason I can't apt-get install mysql-server because I can't contact security.debian |
| 01:27.23 | jasonpm | sidicas: here's an example of an error its complaining of : SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_START failed: Broken pipe |
| 01:27.23 | Culiao | I've set vga=0x303 on lilo.conf, but it seems my kernel doesn't support frame buffer... and when I boot it turns a black screen and I can't do anything... how can I login in order to set vga=normal ??? |
| 01:27.30 | saminuske | and I just can't connect to some sites... odd |
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| 01:27.39 | novacat | g4lt:??? |
| 01:27.46 | Culiao | any idea? |
| 01:27.48 | jasonpm | sidicas, well it has to be an alsa thing.. because gnome and kde have sound systems right? they don't work.. but wmaker, fvwm, etc.. do work.. sort of |
| 01:28.00 | g4lt | novacat do it |
| 01:28.07 | DanWSB | FieldySnuts: I'm kind of used to not being able to find help.. *curses the lack of documentation for writing gtk2 pixmap-based themes* :) |
| 01:28.22 | novacat | g4lt : do what!? |
| 01:28.39 | FieldySnuts | right. but if you can't find good info on udev, you've got a core system component misbehaving. just my thoughts, have fun |
| 01:28.47 | Scheme | How do you know if you're running woody or sarge or whatever? |
| 01:28.51 | g4lt | novacat read the manpage |
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| 01:29.04 | Fire | rox: testing/unstable |
| 01:29.05 | g4lt | Scheme cat /etc/debian_version |
| 01:29.12 | DanWSB | FieldySnuts: I understand... thanks for the advice :) |
| 01:29.30 | Scheme | errr |
| 01:29.33 | Scheme | testing/unstable |
| 01:29.34 | Scheme | :| |
| 01:29.51 | jasonpm | did kde or gnome change in sid in the last few days? |
| 01:29.55 | Scheme | I use the stable apt source... |
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| 01:30.06 | Darkintent | what gtk dev packages do i need to install for sarge to get mplayer to work |
| 01:30.16 | Scheme | How can I change to a stable version? |
| 01:30.24 | rox | Fire: ok .. you'r running ssh server on debian and it starts on boot and you have no init script for it .. thatz's rather hard to believe |
| 01:30.24 | g4lt | Scheme then take a look at your /etc/apt/sources.list, but it's pretty shameful for someone to be using testing+ without being able to tell their version trivially |
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| 01:30.50 | Culiao | I've set vga=0x303 on lilo.conf, but it seems my kernel doesn't support frame buffer... and when I boot it turns a black screen and I can't do anything... how can I login in order to set vga=normal ??? any idea? |
| 01:30.51 | Scheme | yeh.. I'm using a stable source from a debian mirror |
| 01:31.00 | rox | Fire: "locate ssh | grep init.d" <-- what's the output of that? |
| 01:31.05 | g4lt | Scheme did you pin packages? |
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| 01:31.18 | sidicas | jasonpm: You can go to packages.debian.org and look that up at |
| 01:31.19 | g0llum_ | jasonpm: i've seen updates to kdelibs |
| 01:31.19 | g0llum_ | jasonpm: gnome 2.6 is still in experimental |
| 01:31.21 | Darkintent | ? |
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| 01:31.35 | Fire | rox: /etc/init.d/ssh |
| 01:31.41 | Scheme | It still doesnt tell me if its woody or sarge etc.. |
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| 01:31.51 | jasonpm | heres another error i am getting... kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: KLibrary: /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4: undefined sym |
| 01:31.55 | jasonpm | bol: OpenSSL_add_all_algorithms |
| 01:31.55 | jasonpm | kdecore (KLibLoader): WARNING: KLibrary: /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4: undefined sym |
| 01:31.55 | jasonpm | bol: OpenSSL_add_all_algorithms_conf |
| 01:31.58 | booboo | is there a performance gain if /bin or /usr/bin were on ramdisk? |
| 01:32.00 | jasonpm | oops, didn't realize that make multiple lines |
| 01:32.16 | g4lt | Scheme if it's stable, /etc/debian_version should have "3.0" in it |
| 01:32.44 | Darkintent | i keep getting the error gtk devel packages required |
| 01:33.00 | Scheme | odd |
| 01:33.03 | sidicas | booboo: No, that's a bad idea |
| 01:33.06 | rox | Fire: then there is no reason for the command "/etc/init.d/ssh stop" not to perform the task you want |
| 01:33.10 | Scheme | my other box that I used the exact same CD s 3.0 |
| 01:33.13 | myren__ | whats an underworld being of marginally less importance than your run of the mill devil? |
| 01:33.20 | Fire | rox: You said ssh_D_ |
| 01:33.23 | Darkintent | when i do fakeroot debian/rules binary |
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| 01:33.28 | Fire | That didn't work. |
| 01:33.28 | Scheme | Can I get back to a stable version using apt-get? |
| 01:33.31 | Fire | ssh worked well |
| 01:33.51 | g4lt | Scheme not very well |
| 01:34.01 | g4lt | !downgrade |
| 01:34.01 | dpkg | downgrade is, like, not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later. If you find you want to try going from unstable/testing => stable, then read http://www.debianplanet.org/node.php?id=880 or The Debian Reference Section 6.2.7 |
| 01:34.06 | macmouse | how do I set the language variable(?) to US english? or more importantly, what is the code? |
| 01:34.18 | rox | Fire: i corrected myself a bit later |
| 01:34.22 | sidicas | booboo: Believe it or not, ramdisks aren't very efficient uses of memory.. The kernel does a better job.. Ramdisks are usually used as a temporary storage place for bootdisks |
| 01:34.30 | BobMugabe | how do i see what kernel im using? |
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| 01:34.36 | Scheme | sid/sarge are unstable/testing? |
| 01:34.37 | FieldySnuts | uname -r |
| 01:34.45 | g4lt | Scheme yes |
| 01:34.56 | BobMugabe | hx |
| 01:35.03 | booboo | sidicas: ok |
| 01:35.10 | Scheme | so Im guessing that box is running one of those then. |
| 01:35.14 | Darkintent | no one knows? |
| 01:35.23 | g0llum_ | macmouse: you can do an apt-get install locales, then choose to build en_US, then select is as default locale |
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| 01:35.24 | FieldySnuts | Darkintent: no one knows what |
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| 01:35.35 | Fire | rox: I didn't see, sorry |
| 01:35.44 | rox | Fire: anyways, is your problem solved now? |
| 01:35.45 | steven | how can i make a normal user able to mount a cd |
| 01:35.50 | greycat | steven: man fstab |
| 01:35.53 | Darkintent | what gtk dev packages i need to dload to build mplayer |
| 01:36.02 | FieldySnuts | steven: man fstab, look for the option "users" or "user", one of the two. |
| 01:36.03 | g4lt | Scheme if /etc/apt/sources.list has woody or stable lines in it only, you MAY have little to fear |
| 01:36.07 | booboo | steven: add him to the cdrom group |
| 01:36.10 | Fire | rox: Yes |
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| 01:36.31 | SpandoFando | FINALLY...DRI, and actual hardware acceleration! |
| 01:36.50 | steven | booboo: i already add him to the group but he is still unable to do it |
| 01:36.58 | sidicas | SpandoFando: Are you running xserver 4.3? I've been having troubles getting DRI working on it.. Works fine in 4.1 for me though |
| 01:37.07 | FieldySnuts | steven: please do what greycat and myself suggested. |
| 01:37.15 | booboo | anyone use vlc or mplayer, my dvd player works, but the audio is croppy with a slowing video, any hints? |
| 01:37.15 | Darkintent | ? |
| 01:37.16 | SpandoFando | sidicas: Yep, 4.3, Radeon 7500... |
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| 01:37.33 | booboo | steven: check the chmod permissions set on the device ( hint: /dev) |
| 01:37.35 | macmouse | g0llum_: an thousand thank you! |
| 01:37.39 | macmouse | s |
| 01:37.41 | sidicas | SpandoFando: I have a Radeon 7000, it kept crashing on me.. I gave up on it.. Went back to 4.1.. What'd you do? |
| 01:37.42 | steven | FieldySnuts: i am doing that but i wanted to respond to booboo |
| 01:37.46 | greycat | booboo: not for mounting. Needs "user" in fstab. |
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| 01:38.01 | Scheme | beh, might as well elave it as testing |
| 01:38.06 | Culiao | I've set vga=0x303 on lilo.conf, but it seems my kernel doesn't support frame buffer... and when I boot it turns a black screen and I can't do anything... how can I login in order to set vga=normal ??? any idea? |
| 01:38.16 | Darkintent | booboo what gtk dev package did you dload to install mplayer |
| 01:38.35 | booboo | greycat: hmm, thought he was asking about mounting |
| 01:38.50 | Darkintent | ? |
| 01:38.52 | rox | Fire: you might want to use updaterc.d to make it not start on boot ... use the same tool to reverse the thing later |
| 01:38.57 | SpandoFando | sidicas: I loaded radeonfb, agpgart, ati-agp modules, added.. OPTION "ForcePCIMode", and OPTION "AGPMode" "1" to x config...and it worked.. |
| 01:39.04 | steven | greycat: i mean i want a normal user to be able to mount the cdrom, but the normal user is not allowed to, it says /dev/cdrom: permission denied |
| 01:39.16 | greycat | booboo: yes. and for mounting, you just edit fstab. No need to change perms. |
| 01:39.21 | FieldySnuts | steven: WE GAVE YOU the damn answer. |
| 01:39.24 | booboo | Darkintent: hmm, not sure, but what about vlc, its doing the same |
| 01:39.25 | FieldySnuts | ffffff |
| 01:39.30 | Fire | rox: How do i use it? |
| 01:39.36 | sidicas | SpandoFando: Did you have the problem where it would load up in a low-res and not switch higher? |
| 01:39.42 | rox | Fire: man updaterc.d |
| 01:39.43 | FieldySnuts | heck greycat almost edited the file himself for you |
| 01:39.45 | g0llum_ | is there a command to wrap output to a specific numbers of characters per line ? |
| 01:39.48 | SpandoFando | sidicas: Nah, It's 1024x768... |
| 01:39.52 | hacim | well, hmm, if UT isn't going to extract, I've always got tetrinet |
| 01:39.53 | booboo | greycat: well, i'm assuming they haven't been changed previously, he can still see that the group is set |
| 01:40.11 | steven | FieldySnuts: ok i am sorry i am reading it |
| 01:40.11 | greycat | g0llum_: fmt and fold |
| 01:40.13 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: cluebat booboo |
| 01:40.14 | sidicas | SpandoFando: What kernel version? |
| 01:40.20 | SpandoFando | sidicas: 2.6.4 |
| 01:40.28 | Darkintent | ?? |
| 01:40.34 | acj | Culiao: you could try http://gujin.sourceforge.net/ which is a boot floppy that gives a menu of all bootable OSes found on all disks |
| 01:40.41 | SpandoFando | sidicas: I couldn't get it working with 2.4 at all.. |
| 01:40.52 | rox | Fire: sorry, i mistyped the name of the command again ... it's update-rc.d |
| 01:40.56 | sidicas | SpandoFando: Thankx... I'll work on it tomorrow.. Hopefully I'll get mine working |
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| 01:41.16 | sidicas | SpandoFando: Really? Works fine for me.. Strange. |
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| 01:41.22 | rox | Fire: so look into man update-rc.d and see how it works |
| 01:41.30 | Fire | ok |
| 01:41.39 | SpandoFando | sidicas: I had some mouse issues (ie. USB not working correctly), but I don't mind using a corded mouse if I get DRI.. |
| 01:41.58 | booboo | FieldySnuts: well, i'm not a big multimedia person, but i've pretty much have everyone else working: mp3, xm music and video files working pretty well.. you're complements are still not making it easier for me.. |
| 01:42.02 | Culiao | acj: the problem is when I boot linux |
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| 01:42.10 | FieldySnuts | neat. |
| 01:42.15 | Fire | rox: It's a server.. I won't reboot it a long time :) |
| 01:42.15 | FieldySnuts | brb new kernel |
| 01:42.18 | Culiao | acj: I can boot linux, lilo detect it.. |
| 01:42.23 | Culiao | but I can't see anything |
| 01:42.30 | Culiao | after I ser vga=0x303 |
| 01:42.33 | Culiao | s/ser/set |
| 01:42.47 | Culiao | how can I login to set vga=normal? |
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| 01:43.12 | sidicas | Culiao: In your boot manager |
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| 01:43.31 | Culiao | sidicas: how? |
| 01:43.32 | MarcoPau | where are i2c modules in the menuconfig? |
| 01:43.45 | greycat | MarcoPau: read .config by hand and see. |
| 01:43.54 | zouhair | hello any howto to change my debian to utf8 ? |
| 01:43.59 | greycat | it's MUCH easier to find things in .config than in menuconfig |
| 01:44.02 | extremescholar | MarcoPau: What kernel? |
| 01:44.06 | greycat | zouhair: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
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| 01:44.19 | sidicas | Culiao: Are you using a kernel image? It might not have the option to run different vga settings.. I had this problem like 6 months ago |
| 01:44.20 | MarcoPau | greycat: it says the section? alright thanks |
| 01:44.22 | zouhair | ok :) |
| 01:44.23 | simonrvn | zouhair: yes, and what greycat said |
| 01:44.34 | MarcoPau | extremescholar: 2.4.25... will find it anyway |
| 01:44.38 | zouhair | simonrvn _ greycat : ty |
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| 01:44.45 | zouhair | simonrvn: url ? |
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| 01:44.51 | Culiao | sidicas: I think I'm not using a kernel image |
| 01:44.54 | toymachine | umm help |
| 01:44.56 | toymachine | lol |
| 01:44.57 | simonrvn | google :) |
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| 01:45.01 | rox | Fire: i guess you are right ... if it's a proper server ... ig it's a box in a closet at home, then your mom can flip a switch while cleaning the fusebox and you'r screwed |
| 01:45.04 | Culiao | sidicas: well, I think I do |
| 01:45.05 | Caimlas | does anyone know if there's a tool to make a drivers.tgz for a custom installation disk? |
| 01:45.06 | toymachine | i need a good apt walkthrough |
| 01:45.10 | Culiao | sidicas: you mean bzImage? |
| 01:45.11 | VChriZZbot | does someone know a nice tool, which streams the local mp3 files? |
| 01:45.21 | toymachine | and a good walkthrough about upgradeing my kernel to 2.6.5 in debian |
| 01:45.25 | simonrvn | toymachine: man apt-get, man apt |
| 01:45.40 | simonrvn | toymachine: apt-get install apt-howto |
| 01:45.43 | greycat | ewww, mp3. |
| 01:45.46 | Culiao | sidicas: you mean the bzImage file? |
| 01:45.48 | zouhair | hehe |
| 01:45.48 | Caimlas | toymachine: apt-get update to update, apt-cache search <function/package name/etc> to search, apt-get install <package> to install. any questions? good. |
| 01:46.00 | toymachine | lol |
| 01:46.02 | Caimlas | toymachine: google for the rest. |
| 01:46.02 | extremescholar | VChriZZbot: try icecast |
| 01:46.04 | toymachine | ok now about the kernel |
| 01:46.05 | SpandoFando | greycat: eww? what'r you using? Ogg? |
| 01:46.08 | Caimlas | toymachine: I'm serious. |
| 01:46.09 | greycat | yes |
| 01:46.09 | zouhair | toymachine: apt is not an fps |
| 01:46.10 | Fire | rox: lol |
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| 01:46.14 | sidicas | Culiao: Sorry, I didn't read the first part of your problem.. just use a bootdisk and change your lilo.conf back |
| 01:46.15 | Caimlas | zouhair: haha |
| 01:46.20 | greycat | SpandoFando: I don't "stream", though. |
| 01:46.21 | booboo | surprise-> http://sourceforge.net/projects/registry/ |
| 01:46.23 | zouhair | :) |
| 01:46.29 | booboo | yikes |
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| 01:46.33 | simonrvn | booboo: oh no |
| 01:46.35 | DanWSB | toymachine: aptitude is a good apt frontend as well. as far as upgrading your kernel:http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html |
| 01:46.37 | SpandoFando | greycat: haven't tried ogg yet...pros? |
| 01:46.37 | booboo | a registry for linux, oooo |
| 01:46.42 | Culiao | sidicas: I don't have a bootdisk.. where can I get one? |
| 01:46.47 | greycat | SpandoFando: it's Free, and it's higher quality at any given bitrate |
| 01:46.55 | Culiao | I don't even have a floopy disk! ;( |
| 01:46.58 | greycat | *especially* at lower bitrates (<= 128 kbpx) |
| 01:47.00 | greycat | s/x/s/ |
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| 01:47.04 | zouhair | toymachine: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/index.en.html |
| 01:47.08 | VChriZZbot | extremescholar: i dont think this is compatible to winamp... thats why im using shoutcast now... but streaming 24/7 to my server is awful |
| 01:47.08 | afabian | Is there a way to convince the Debian packaging system that you've installed a package when you haven't, like, if you compile it yourself, so you can fulfill the dependencies, but .. not the way a package thinks?... |
| 01:47.09 | booboo | no, i've read, its for linux central depository settings |
| 01:47.14 | sidicas | Culiao: acj posted a link I think. |
| 01:47.19 | booboo | scary uh? |
| 01:47.28 | SpandoFando | greycat: can I convert from mp3 to ogg, and benifit, or woudl I have to re encode everything? |
| 01:47.35 | greycat | dpkg, mp3->ogg |
| 01:47.35 | dpkg | somebody said mp3->ogg was a VERY BAD idea. You'll have mp3 artifacts, ogg artifacts, and artifacts because of ogg trying to encode the mp3 artifacts. If you value your ears, rerip your CDs and then encode *that* to Vorbis. |
| 01:47.52 | SpandoFando | greycat: thought so.. |
| 01:47.59 | toymachine | ok is there anything special that i'd need to do |
| 01:48.00 | Caimlas | greycat: you have any idea if there's a tool to make a drivers.tgz for a custom installation disk? |
| 01:48.00 | extremescholar | VChriZZbot: last time I played with it, Winamp worked fine, just have to tinker a bit |
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| 01:48.02 | g4lt | afabian equivs |
| 01:48.02 | toymachine | and can i still use bzImage |
| 01:48.08 | greycat | Caimlas: /msg dpkg custom netinst |
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| 01:48.18 | SpandoFando | greycat: except..I own like 10 cd's I don't listen too...good 'ol legal downloading in Canada :) |
| 01:48.23 | Ugly_Duck | hiya's |
| 01:48.26 | zouhair | OH my god a linux registry |
| 01:48.43 | greycat | SpandoFando: OpenFT has a lot of oggs |
| 01:49.02 | SpandoFando | greycat: openft? php client? |
| 01:49.10 | greycat | SpandoFando: /msg dpkg gift |
| 01:49.12 | VChriZZbot | extremescholar: ya, but you have to install this plugin... and thats not nice ... so everybody has to install a plugin ... my target group arent pc-freaks, just little windows-noobs, so they dont know how to install a plugin |
| 01:49.15 | VChriZZbot | :) |
| 01:49.15 | DanWSB | toymachine: if you follow the newbiedoc link I pasted, you'll end up with a custom .deb of your kernel that you can easily install with dpkg-deb. No need to worry about the bzImage / vmlinuz stuff. |
| 01:49.18 | Ugly_Duck | i want to install php5 but i haven't been able to find a soure list yet, has any one found a source list for it; i dont wana install from source code |
| 01:49.32 | simonrvn | Ugly_Duck: source code. |
| 01:49.41 | SpandoFando | greycat: I'll check it out, fasttrack is the kazaa network right? |
| 01:49.43 | afabian | Can debian-stable run with a 2.6 kernel? |
| 01:49.45 | greycat | SpandoFando: yes |
| 01:49.45 | toymachine | k sweet |
| 01:49.48 | toymachine | thanks DanWSB |
| 01:49.55 | simonrvn | afabian: with some backports |
| 01:49.55 | greycat | afabian: /msg dpkg bunk 2.6 |
| 01:49.58 | extremescholar | VChriZZbot: I don't remember installing a plug-in, but I'll take your word for it. :/ |
| 01:50.04 | simonrvn | !bunk 2.6 |
| 01:50.05 | dpkg | bunk 2.6 is, like, http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/packages/woody/kernel-26.html |
| 01:50.14 | vipe | is there any way to let wu-ftpd follow symlinks to a path outside of the chrooted environment (for anonymous users)? |
| 01:50.17 | sidicas | greycat: What? I don't think so :-)... It used to be, but not anymore |
| 01:50.17 | Culiao | isn't there a way to boot from lilo but not taking the lilo.conf parametreS? |
| 01:50.30 | afabian | Oh. Hm. Neat. Okay. The 2.6 kernel is way fast. I need 2.6 ;) |
| 01:50.31 | Scheme | w00t, downgraded back to 3.0 |
| 01:50.34 | booboo | afabian: i have a pentium on 2.6 |
| 01:50.34 | greycat | sidicas: huh? |
| 01:50.35 | g4lt | vipe that would be suicide |
| 01:50.44 | toymachine | DanWB sorry what was the link i dont' see it |
| 01:50.44 | Culiao | isn't there a way to boot from lilo but not taking the lilo.conf configuration? |
| 01:50.45 | greycat | sidicas: what used to be which? |
| 01:50.46 | SpandoFando | greycat: Good stuff, haven't loaded any p2p's on the box yet...almost went with Limewire though, sucks on windows, I can imagine it sucks on linux also.. |
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| 01:50.47 | VChriZZbot | extremescholar: i dont know how it is in v.5 but in v.2.9 it was ... |
| 01:50.49 | sidicas | greycat: I didn't think gift worked with Kazaa clients |
| 01:50.57 | greycat | sidicas: #gift-fasttrack |
| 01:51.00 | simonrvn | eek, wuftpd and symlinks. just *asking* to get r00ted |
| 01:51.04 | DanWSB | toymachine: http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html |
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| 01:51.13 | toymachine | thanks bro |
| 01:51.35 | DanWSB | no problem |
| 01:51.45 | sidicas | greycat: Last I heard they changed the Kazaa protocal and gift went to OpenFT and that's when I stopped using it |
| 01:52.18 | greycat | sidicas: that was... about 2 years ago, then? |
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| 01:52.36 | sidicas | greycat: I dunno, maybe :-) |
| 01:52.49 | greycat | sidicas: giftd is modular now. It has OpenFT and Gnutella plugins. And there's a FastTrack one, and an OpenNap one, both of them unofficial. |
| 01:53.02 | Caimlas | greycat: thanks... now where would I get boot-floppies for sid? |
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| 01:53.06 | greycat | !sid faq |
| 01:53.07 | dpkg | somebody said sid faq was http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html |
| 01:53.11 | Scheme | Downgrading isnt hard at all. |
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| 01:54.15 | sidicas | greycat:......oh.... I stand corrected :-) |
| 01:54.42 | simonrvn | bf for sid? wtf |
| 01:54.46 | Caimlas | Scheme: yeah, ogod idea. |
| 01:54.51 | Caimlas | simonrvn: building on sid for a woody install. |
| 01:55.15 | simonrvn | i'd make a pbuilder or chroot |
| 01:55.20 | Caimlas | a pbuilder is? |
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| 01:55.36 | simonrvn | allows to build shit in its own little env. IIRC |
| 01:55.53 | simonrvn | apt-cache show pbuilder |
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| 01:56.18 | g4lt | Scheme I wouldn't say that, it's just not hard for YOU ;) |
| 01:56.26 | Caimlas | greycat: and what good does that sid faq do for me? |
| 01:56.32 | Caimlas | (it doesn't, btw.) |
| 01:57.13 | greycat | do you understand why simonrvn said "bf for sid? wtf" now? |
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| 01:58.25 | sidicas | Caimlas: You don't need specific boot floppies, any would do.. You could use Knoppix for example |
| 01:58.33 | afabian | Is Debian in active development? The 3.0 release was a while ago. |
| 01:58.40 | greycat | yes, it is |
| 01:58.44 | afabian | Well. Of course it is. Is development grid-locked? |
| 01:58.45 | sidicas | afabian: lol... |
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| 01:58.55 | greycat | afabian: check d-d-a archives |
| 01:58.58 | Dark-Fear | olla |
| 01:59.32 | sidicas | Sometimes I think people ask questions like that on purpose |
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| 02:00.14 | afabian | greycat: Google doesn't know what d-d-a means. I mean, .. I wouldn't ask such obvious questions if I were a Debian user, so... well, I don't know what d-d-a is, either. ;) |
| 02:00.23 | greycat | !d-d-a |
| 02:00.23 | dpkg | i heard d-d-a is debian-devel-announce, the list that major Debian developments are posted to. It's perhaps one message a week, so Sarge and Sid users have no excuse not to be on it and read it. Sign up at http://lists.debian.org/ |
| 02:00.40 | afabian | Ah, okay. Thanks. |
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| 02:01.15 | KarlosII | Scheme: check your apt.conf |
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| 02:01.22 | Caimlas | sidicas: I understood why simon said 'bf for sid?' initially. he made a false assumption that I was trying to do that. |
| 02:01.23 | beta3 | w00t! I got the book!!! |
| 02:01.32 | OBcecado | help: after compiling fluxbox i can't get it running, because it needs startx and it gives me an error |
| 02:01.39 | OBcecado | usable to connect to X server |
| 02:01.41 | KarlosII | unstable/experimental <--- :P |
| 02:01.44 | Caimlas | sidicas: I'm not trying to make boot floppies, I'm trying to generate a fresh drivers.tgz from those I've built. |
| 02:01.45 | OBcecado | s/usable/unable |
| 02:02.03 | greycat | OBcecado: echo fluxbox > ~/.xsession && startx |
| 02:02.12 | Fitzimmons | what's the package name for mplayer? |
| 02:02.20 | Caimlas | sidicas: ie, I've done everything else already on my own without any tools |
| 02:02.22 | greycat | Fitzimmons: /msg dpkg mplayer |
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| 02:02.53 | Fitzimmons | thx greycat |
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| 02:04.15 | OBcecado | it said: /usr/bin/X11/X no such file or directory |
| 02:04.27 | Culiao | Is there any cd boot disk to enter to the system??? I don't have any floopy disk!! and my lilo isn't working!! |
| 02:04.54 | Fitzimmons | Culiao: use any livecd and chroot to your main system |
| 02:05.00 | LoRez | ~tell Culiao about ep |
| 02:05.07 | afabian | I'm a pretty experienced FreeBSD user. I know how dependencies work. I can compile my own software, and I know C (though I couldn't write a large application.) I can read and write sh scripts. In short, I'm something of an intermediate/advanced user of UNIX type systems. My point, here, is ... being somewhat unfamiliar with Debian, would I still be well advised to stick with stable? |
| 02:05.36 | g4lt | afabian until you get the hang of dpkg and apt, yes |
| 02:05.37 | greycat | afabian: you should be able to deal with unstable |
| 02:05.46 | sidicas | Culiao: Do you have another computer where you could burn a boot CD? |
| 02:05.54 | Culiao | sidicas: yes I have |
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| 02:06.03 | Culiao | sidicas: the one where I am |
| 02:06.11 | Culiao | now |
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| 02:06.15 | Fitzimmons | ~tell me about ep |
| 02:06.33 | Fitzimmons | hehe :) |
| 02:06.44 | novacat | how do you stop a kernel module from running at startup? |
| 02:06.54 | greycat | novacat: take it out of /etc/modules |
| 02:06.58 | Culiao | sidicas: where can I get a boot cd? |
| 02:07.01 | sidicas | Culiao: Well, you could get Knoppix (which is nice to have laying around), unless you're impatient and have a slow internet connection.. If not, you could just look on google for some tiny boot isos |
| 02:07.02 | novacat | thx |
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| 02:07.20 | Culiao | get 600 mb of knoppix? |
| 02:07.29 | greycat | more like 700 |
| 02:07.40 | paranoos | i can't get gnome to load past the splash screen. what can i do to find out what the problem is? |
| 02:07.42 | Culiao | isn't there a minimalist cd boot? |
| 02:07.45 | greycat | -rw-r--r-- 1 greg greg 733902848 2004-03-14 01:26 KNOPPIX_V3.3-2004-02-16-EN.iso |
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| 02:09.06 | novacat | greycat: i dont see the module i want to stop in there |
| 02:09.46 | greycat | novacat: then either (a) it's not a module, or (b) it's being loaded on demand by kmod |
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| 02:10.39 | acj | Culiao: do you have a floppy disk or a debian install CD? |
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| 02:10.57 | hacim | anyone know how to get english subtitles with mplayer? |
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| 02:11.01 | Culiao | acj: nop.. my gf have it ;( |
| 02:11.03 | simonrvn | OMG!!!1 GREYCAT HAZ A KNPOIIXOMG KPLSTHXBYE |
| 02:11.06 | novacat | greycat: well, i know its a module cause i can unload it with modconf so how do i stop it being loaded by kmod? |
| 02:11.14 | Culiao | acj: can I login into my sistem installed if I boot from a netinstall cd? |
| 02:11.19 | Culiao | or something |
| 02:11.27 | Culiao | I could download some boot cd |
| 02:11.33 | simonrvn | your system is nor your sister. |
| 02:11.36 | simonrvn | not* |
| 02:11.46 | Jawoota | heh |
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| 02:11.59 | Jawoota | my system is my girlfriend. |
| 02:12.07 | Jawoota | definetely not my sister. |
| 02:12.18 | novacat | jawoota: get a life =) |
| 02:13.21 | OBcecado | help plz: when doint startx it says can't find file /usr/bin/X11/X |
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| 02:13.36 | novacat | you dont have x intsalled |
| 02:13.44 | simonrvn | do you have the xserver installed? |
| 02:13.55 | acj | Culiao: there is a cut down rescue floppy image which can also be burned to CD. google for tomsrtbt |
| 02:14.02 | OBcecado | i believe so :x |
| 02:14.08 | Culiao | thanx AceLan |
| 02:14.09 | novacat | check |
| 02:14.10 | sidicas | Jawoota: Psh.. That's nothing, my system is my girlfriend and named after a goddess (Skuld). |
| 02:14.11 | Culiao | thanx acj |
| 02:14.31 | OBcecado | since i got that dir, except that X (maybe some other missing) |
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| 02:14.55 | toymachine | are there alsasound and alsatools packages |
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| 02:15.07 | simonrvn | xserver-xfree86 should show as ii in dpkg -l xserver-xfree86 |
| 02:15.15 | novacat | toymachine: yes |
| 02:15.22 | Cicloid | anyone has experienced any problems with alsa i8x0 module? |
| 02:15.27 | toymachine | with 2.6.5 i should just need alsalib and alsatools |
| 02:15.27 | Cicloid | like low volume? |
| 02:15.31 | toymachine | right? |
| 02:15.48 | m0r7 | hi got a bit of a jam here with apt-get can someone help me?... |
| 02:15.48 | novacat | Ciclod: are you using GNOME? |
| 02:15.55 | Cicloid | Cicloid: yep |
| 02:16.02 | OBcecado | not installed :/ |
| 02:16.03 | Cicloid | novacat: does that interfere? |
| 02:16.06 | simonrvn | @tell m0r7 -about ask |
| 02:16.23 | Cicloid | novacat: but im using the xmms alsa plugin :s |
| 02:16.35 | novacat | Cicloid: no, just turn the volume up there and in alsamoxer |
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| 02:16.46 | Cicloid | novacat: is all on top :S |
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| 02:17.05 | novacat | turn the volume up on the speakers |
| 02:17.06 | OBcecado | so, how can i get xserver ? |
| 02:17.14 | Cicloid | novacat: using headphones... |
| 02:17.16 | simonrvn | you install it |
| 02:17.30 | novacat | Cicloid: thats the problem |
| 02:17.34 | Cicloid | novacat: well im using an amplifier right know, because of that... |
| 02:18.00 | Cicloid | novacat: the ironic part is that in winbugs, the volume is more, high :s |
| 02:18.07 | novacat | Cicloid: is it up all the way aswell? |
| 02:18.08 | ot | Since Debian does not have rc.local, what should I do to make a command run at startup, specifically, I want "su - ot -c startx" to be run, so that I would auto-login ? |
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| 02:18.27 | Cicloid | novacat: yep, without using an amp... i get more volume... |
| 02:18.32 | booboo | m00nd0g: i thought jamming was fun music no? |
| 02:18.33 | novacat | ot: just use gdm |
| 02:18.36 | m0r7 | I am currently running upgrade via apt-get (root shell, knoppix dist.) everything working fine but my arrow and enter keys seem to be disabled. enter can be "emulated" by pressing ALT+LFT_ARROW what the hell?... |
| 02:18.39 | booboo | arrghh |
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| 02:19.14 | sciboy | Hi, How would i get sound for a Thinkpad 390? |
| 02:19.15 | novacat | Cicloid: hmm what chip is it? |
| 02:19.21 | ot | novacat: I don't use gnome (no reason to run xdm either, since I *DON'T* want to login) |
| 02:19.22 | Cicloid | novacat: i even recompile the alsa... the only thing that give me a little boost on the volume, was when i run alsaconf, but i didnt get more... |
| 02:19.23 | bahadunn | helix: you there? |
| 02:19.57 | Cicloid | novacat: Realtek ALC655, its the onboard audio, is a AOpen motherboard... |
| 02:20.05 | ZenithDK | what site should I have for unstable security updates to Debian? |
| 02:20.11 | booboo | m00nd0g: you're on knoppix dist, may want to see what's in your /etc/console setting .. guessing your locales canbe checked as well |
| 02:20.13 | ZenithDK | in my sources.conf that is? |
| 02:20.24 | ZenithDK | I'm not having any lines right now I can see :-/ |
| 02:20.25 | sidicas | ot: the KDM and GDM packages by default will load up an xserver login screen.. What are you running then? I know you can config KDM to auto-log you in. |
| 02:20.28 | booboo | arrggh |
| 02:20.29 | novacat | Cicloid: im usin ALC650 without any probs |
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| 02:20.37 | booboo | m0r7: you're on knoppix dist, may want to see what's in your /etc/console setting .. guessing your locales canbe checked as well |
| 02:20.44 | Cicloid | novacat: maybe its the additional 5 xD |
| 02:20.50 | sciboy | It apparently has a Neomagic 256 (nm256)? |
| 02:21.07 | booboo | m0r7: choose a more realistic name for crying out loud |
| 02:21.19 | ZenithDK | can: deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free be used for security to unstable? |
| 02:21.21 | novacat | Cicloid: is the PCM volume up? |
| 02:21.29 | sidicas | ot: I thought you said you wanted to auto-login.. sorry heh |
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| 02:21.40 | bahadunn | helix: its me jharrison. Anyways the other day you wanted to see some pictures of the #debian pets and I told you I would get a picture of our cat sybil. I have the picture now. If you wish to see it it here is the link. https://linuxbs.dyndns.org/~public/sybie |
| 02:21.42 | Cicloid | novacat: yep, but well, i put it to 90% because i get a slight distortion... |
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| 02:21.53 | m0r7 | booboo you'd be surprised how many (even french) dont get it... and it's been my nick for quite some time now... |
| 02:22.00 | holycow | heh |
| 02:22.01 | Cicloid | also when i was using oss, the volume was more high |
| 02:22.12 | booboo | m0r7: i'm not french |
| 02:22.22 | m0r7 | booboo but the word mort is |
| 02:22.27 | holycow | the x11 config file is quite a powerfull tool, i think i'm liking it more than the winders gui way |
| 02:22.40 | novacat | Cicloid: hmm, i cant figure it out mabey someone in #alsa can |
| 02:22.50 | booboo | m0r7: what does race have to do with an english #debian , this is not #debian-fr |
| 02:22.55 | FieldySnuts | generally, text config files are much more powerful than gui config tools. you just have to know how to use em. |
| 02:22.57 | ot | sidicas: I want to login automatically (xdm is what I don't want to see). I'm aware of GDM & KDM, but I use IceWM, and don't want to bloat my system & startup unnecessarily (I just want to run one command at startup - that's what the question was about) |
| 02:23.01 | sciboy | What should i modprobe to get the sound for a Thinkpad 390 going? (It uses a nm256)? |
| 02:23.06 | m0r7 | booboo missunderstanding there... |
| 02:23.08 | FieldySnuts | !abuse France |
| 02:23.10 | nvz | holycow: I got dual head, but its actually two shitty systems closely networked |
| 02:23.16 | m0r7 | booboo: btw. knoppix is based on debian |
| 02:23.17 | holycow | nvz, hehehe :) |
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| 02:23.33 | booboo | m0r7: that's what i said, and i provided a soln' so go try it |
| 02:23.37 | novacat | sciboy: use modconf and select the module you want |
| 02:23.42 | holycow | well i did have a problem with setting up dualhead with two vid cards, i just couldnt find the pci bus id for the second damned card |
| 02:23.49 | Cicloid | ot: installing gdm, doesnt put many things on the system, y should consider using gdm |
| 02:23.54 | holycow | so i decided to get twinview working in this oldie ti4200 |
| 02:24.10 | eatenn | holycow: please don't call my ti4200 old ;P |
| 02:24.12 | g0llum_ | any good emule p2p client ? |
| 02:24.16 | holycow | surprise surpsrise too, when i was using suse, it couldnt get it working via the gui stuff |
| 02:24.21 | Cicloid | g0llum_: xmule |
| 02:24.25 | holycow | eatenn, heheh, k i won't |
| 02:24.26 | novacat | holycow: u think ti4200 is old! try Geforce3 Ti200! |
| 02:24.26 | holycow | lol :) |
| 02:24.28 | FieldySnuts | if i could find another ibm p260 monitor, i'd be in heaven heh |
| 02:24.29 | sciboy | novacat: Which module would that be??? |
| 02:24.48 | novacat | sciboy: what is the sound chip? |
| 02:24.50 | holycow | hehehe :) |
| 02:24.51 | sidicas | ot: In that case, you prolly know what you're doing.. Debian uses scripts /etc/rcX.d where X is the initlevel.. Switching to the initlevel will run the scripts.. So all you have to do it add that line to one of the scripts |
| 02:24.55 | novacat | lol |
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| 02:25.05 | holycow | they are still decent cards tho, shame not to use them |
| 02:25.05 | sciboy | novacat: Dunno, nm256??? |
| 02:25.15 | sciboy | novacat: But thats the video card :( |
| 02:25.25 | eatenn | holycow: my ti4200 has some twinview issues. X freezes when i try to leave it, *UNLESS* i plug the monitor into the DVI->VGA converter. |
| 02:25.27 | sciboy | novacat: modconf: Command not found??? |
| 02:25.42 | ot | sidicas: yeah, I'm reading update-rc.d docs now (will be reading for a while probably) |
| 02:26.06 | novacat | sciboy: oh i had the same problem, apt-get install modconf |
| 02:26.11 | FieldySnuts | i've got a dvi input on this monitor and a dvi output on the card. what's the advantage of dvi over analog, other than a rediculously priced cable |
| 02:26.13 | holycow | eatenn, really? well this is the first time i got twinview working just on the ti alone, i used to set it up with two cards on suse |
| 02:26.16 | sidicas | ot: Uhh.. it's easier to just edit the scripts manually.. in my opinion anyway |
| 02:26.21 | ot | Cicloid: does woody's version of gdm handle auto-login? (how about shutdown/reboot from X by non-privileged users) ? |
| 02:26.21 | holycow | i guess i'll find out if this is the same here |
| 02:26.48 | eatenn | holycow: if you run into that problem when leaving X, that's the fix for it (only one i know of anyway.) i've got a feeling it's incompatible with my mobo chipset or proc or something |
| 02:26.48 | sidicas | ot: I've never actually used update-rc.d |
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| 02:27.07 | holycow | that is a veryy strange fix, i'll keep that in mind :) |
| 02:27.11 | toymachine | whats the package for alsamixer and stuff |
| 02:27.24 | Cicloid | ot: to be honest i dont remember, im using sid ;) |
| 02:27.25 | ot | Cicloid: actually, never mind. I just did "apt-get -s gdm" - it want to install a lot of Grap :) |
| 02:27.29 | holycow | ohhhhhhh |
| 02:27.34 | holycow | dvi to vga converter? |
| 02:27.37 | holycow | heh sorry missed that |
| 02:27.51 | holycow | actually yeah thats what i have, these are two 19" crts |
| 02:28.05 | m0r7 | booboo it helped even though too late =D thanks newayz |
| 02:28.15 | acj | toymachine: you can find out at packages.debian.org PS and say hi to Ed Templeton for me |
| 02:28.16 | m0r7 | gotta reboot and see to my new kernel brb |
| 02:28.24 | toymachine | haha will do acj |
| 02:28.38 | morggin | a little help with sarge nic issue ? when i startup the laptop the pcmcia nic (tulip based) dosnt seem to activate until i do an ifdown etho then ifup eth0 ... before i do this the only thing i see for ifconfig is loopback |
| 02:28.41 | novacat | sciboy: what model is it exactly? |
| 02:28.57 | booboo | toymachine: alsa will get installed with the base and utils, check alsa online |
| 02:29.06 | sciboy | novacat: I have never setup sound in linux before so i dunno what to do. |
| 02:29.22 | booboo | toymachine: they mention how to do apt with their source urls |
| 02:29.23 | ot | gdm depends on docbook-xml !!! Arghhh... (don't mind me, just venting my "surprise") |
| 02:29.27 | novacat | sciboy: no, what model thinkpad is it? |
| 02:29.51 | novacat | sciboy: i bet IBM will have info on it |
| 02:30.00 | Scheme | should exim3 accept telnet connections to port 25? |
| 02:30.06 | FieldySnuts | yes |
| 02:30.09 | booboo | morggin: networking script is not called? |
| 02:30.18 | morggin | exim is SMTP server |
| 02:30.22 | Scheme | exim won't start :\ |
| 02:30.24 | holycow | seems to have ogl on both moni's ? |
| 02:30.27 | sciboy | novacat: Thinkpad 390 |
| 02:30.33 | holycow | eheh yaay nvidia if they actually fixed that |
| 02:30.43 | toymachine | this make-kpkg crap is dumb |
| 02:30.49 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 02:30.52 | sciboy | novacat: Neomagic 256 AV |
| 02:30.52 | toymachine | i like make clean make bzImage modules modules_install alot better |
| 02:30.55 | novacat | sciboy: more specific, there are many variants of the 390 |
| 02:30.57 | booboo | toymachine: for alsa, no, you shouldn't have to |
| 02:31.07 | toymachine | oh nono |
| 02:31.07 | Culiao | an netinst boot cd let me edit files installed on my sistem? |
| 02:31.12 | toymachine | im just installing 2.6.5 at the same time |
| 02:31.13 | toymachine | lol |
| 02:31.14 | holycow | lets see if it has overlays on both monis tho |
| 02:31.20 | sciboy | novacat: I just lspci.... |
| 02:31.30 | toymachine | i forgot how much of a crap it was to get debian up and configured |
| 02:31.33 | toymachine | haven't used it in 2 years |
| 02:31.38 | toymachine | been using gentoo and slackware |
| 02:31.43 | booboo | toymachine: well now, i disagree, make-kpkg is a great tool |
| 02:31.43 | Culiao | an netinst boot cd let me edit files installed on my sistem? |
| 02:31.45 | FieldySnuts | !whine toymachine |
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| 02:31.49 | toymachine | hahaha |
| 02:31.55 | sciboy | novacat: How do you get sound in linux??? So far discover seems to have picked the right stuff... |
| 02:32.19 | sidicas | Culiao: All you need is a disk that will let you get to the command line, from there, you can mount your hard drive at a place like (/mnt/mydrive) and then from there use chroot and then (/mnt/mydrive) becomes / and you're all up and running. |
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| 02:32.25 | afabian | Hmm. Does anyone know if jigdo can take a Debian 3.0 r1 disc 1 CD and use it to create a Debian 3.0 r2 disc 1 NON_US CD successfully? |
| 02:32.40 | deadcat | how does the command to unzip then untar using pipe instead of -z go? |
| 02:32.48 | novacat | sciboy: thats why i need the model! to figure out what the soundcard is! |
| 02:32.50 | booboo | toymachine: you're not even supposed to do that for make, all it takes is one argument... i think you're reading the old crap, get modern |
| 02:33.14 | afabian | deadcat: gzcat file.gz | tar xvf - |
| 02:33.25 | sciboy | novacat: But why don't i just type in lspci into bash and tell you? |
| 02:33.26 | deadcat | afabian: thanks. i |
| 02:33.38 | deadcat | afabian: thanks. i've seen ppl using gunzip. |
| 02:33.41 | toymachine | im prolly reading some old crap |
| 02:33.49 | toymachine | http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=Alsa&searchon=names&subword=1&version=stable&release=all |
| 02:33.51 | toymachine | is that old? |
| 02:33.52 | novacat | sciboy: ok do it |
| 02:33.57 | morggin | looks like the network script is called ... ifupdown is in the default runlvl directory but for some strange reson it dosnt seem to find it on boot up. when i was doing the initial install with the sarge beta 3 installer iso. It didnt seem to detect the PCMCIA nic but it loaded PCMCIA card services, i can tell this cause i did an lsmod and saw pcmcia_core in the module list... i just added tulip to the /etc/modules file |
| 02:34.01 | booboo | toymachine: the new kernels, read the Documentation tree |
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| 02:35.01 | sidicas | morggin: Before, did you edit the file yourself? If try to init the ethernet before the PCMCIA stuff, obviously it will fail |
| 02:35.13 | booboo | toymachine: http://www.google.ca/search?q=alsa&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&meta= first site, you don't listen nor read, i said 'alsa' online, meaning its homepage, what better source? |
| 02:35.19 | sciboy | novacat: I just select "nm256_audio" in modconf :P |
| 02:35.21 | morggin | but adding tulip to the /etc/modules file dosnt seem to start the card for some reason ... i still have to do an ifdown etho and then ifup eth0 before it will work and grab an ip from DHCP .. |
| 02:35.34 | morggin | hmm |
| 02:35.51 | novacat | sciboy: it worked? |
| 02:35.55 | sciboy | novacat: Installatio succeeded :P |
| 02:36.10 | sciboy | novacat: What now? |
| 02:36.12 | sidicas | morggin: In this case, the order in which you load the modules *may* make a difference. |
| 02:36.14 | booboo | morggin: hmm, hmm, are you blind? look upwards i mention a possible consideration..did take a look at that, stop whinninh |
| 02:36.29 | novacat | sciboy: it should just work |
| 02:36.47 | sciboy | novacat: So i should be able to play a video and hear the audio? |
| 02:36.54 | novacat | yes |
| 02:37.09 | toymachine | this is the command i used to build my kernel pakcage |
| 02:37.13 | toymachine | tell me if im right... |
| 02:37.21 | morggin | sidicas: do i need to load tulip someplace else besides /etc/modules ... it there a file that gets executed before that ? |
| 02:37.29 | toymachine | make-kpkg --config=menuconfig kernel_image module_image |
| 02:37.53 | ot | toymachine: what prompted you to go back to using debian after using gentoo for 2 years? |
| 02:38.02 | toymachine | portage is a bitch |
| 02:38.17 | booboo | toymachine: you shouldn't be building kernels |
| 02:38.19 | toymachine | but i can already see ima miss their RC |
| 02:38.28 | sciboy | novacat: No audio.... |
| 02:38.28 | toymachine | booboo why not |
| 02:38.30 | novacat | toymachine: not to metion rpm sucks |
| 02:38.31 | ot | I see, I thought Gentoo was dying, with its users going back to what they were using before |
| 02:38.43 | sciboy | novacat: Do i need to restart or something? Anything i need to install? |
| 02:38.47 | toymachine | rpm? |
| 02:38.47 | novacat | sciboy: check the volume on alsamixer |
| 02:38.50 | Spark_ | what package is there for gtk+-fb target? |
| 02:38.59 | Spark_ | x11 seems to be part of the standard package |
| 02:39.00 | afabian | Gentoo is a racket. They've suckered all of their users into being beta testers. ;) |
| 02:39.01 | booboo | toymachine: because its still way too many arguments |
| 02:39.07 | sciboy | novacat: How do i do that? |
| 02:39.18 | sciboy | novacat: How do i know if i even has ALSA? |
| 02:39.33 | sidicas | morggin: Do you have anything referring to PCMCIA in /etc/modules.conf? |
| 02:39.40 | novacat | go in the console and type alsamixer, either it will work or it wont |
| 02:39.44 | morggin | let me check |
| 02:39.45 | ot | afabian: Debian too. How many here are using Stable and how many are using other releases? |
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| 02:39.54 | novacat | ot: testing |
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| 02:40.26 | sciboy | novacat: Command not found |
| 02:40.37 | sfa__ok | how can I add winsock2.h library to my gcc? |
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| 02:40.43 | sciboy | novacat: What should i apt? |
| 02:40.51 | novacat | ok ummm are you running GNOME? |
| 02:41.15 | sidicas | morggin: Wait, I made the presumption that you had PCMCIA as a module.. Did you compile it into your kernel? |
| 02:41.22 | DMJC | my tv remote is bypassing lirc |
| 02:41.39 | DMJC | I haven't got lirc or lircd running but the tv remote is still able to send to the computer |
| 02:41.50 | morggin | i didnt compile this kernel its the default kernel with the sarge beta 3 iso |
| 02:41.54 | sciboy | novacat: No :P |
| 02:42.00 | DMJC | unfortunately when I load lirc/lircd it doesn't use them.. |
| 02:42.03 | novacat | KDE? |
| 02:42.03 | sciboy | novacat: I'm running fluxbox :) |
| 02:42.08 | DMJC | so all i get is the numberpad on the remote |
| 02:42.10 | myren__ | flux is my friend |
| 02:42.24 | morggin | i dont see anthing refering to pcmcia in modules.conf |
| 02:42.42 | novacat | great i know nothing about fluxbox..... what is the volume control for it? |
| 02:42.45 | morggin | that must mean its compiled into the kernel right ? |
| 02:42.47 | toymachine | brb |
| 02:42.49 | toymachine | gonna test kernel |
| 02:42.59 | sidicas | morggin: heh, no, not necessarily |
| 02:43.03 | nvz | morggin: no |
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| 02:43.33 | sciboy | novacat: Fluxbox = Blackbox derivative, very light weight |
| 02:43.36 | sfa__ok | how can I add winsock2.h library to my gcc? |
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| 02:44.04 | [Outlaw] | Hey guys, I have a shell script I want to execute whenever eth1 is brought up - how would I go about setting that up? |
| 02:44.48 | novacat | sciboy: i can understand why you run it with a computer that has a 233 just i only know about GNOME and KDE and mabe a little about Enlightenment |
| 02:45.06 | booboo | novacat: i don't think fluxbox has sound events, you want xmixer or aumixer to volume things |
| 02:45.11 | johnsu01 | [Outlaw]: look in your /etc/network directory. |
| 02:45.14 | sciboy | novacat: But why would that make any difference? |
| 02:45.21 | myren__ | novacat: there's window maker plugins which will let you control volume |
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| 02:45.41 | novacat | sciboy: u know how to change the volume? |
| 02:45.57 | [Outlaw] | Yes, and just put it in if-up.d? |
| 02:46.01 | greycat | [Outlaw]: an "up" command in the eth1 stanza in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 02:46.07 | morggin | outlaw: you could add the script to your /etc/init.d/ifupdown file |
| 02:46.14 | sciboy | novacat: Nope... Except for this little thingy on the side of the latop with 0-10 on it :P |
| 02:46.18 | sidicas | morggin: I'm out of ideas.. Did you check dmesg and look to see if there were any errors? |
| 02:46.18 | myren__ | window managers dont deal with volume generally. windows dont correlate to sound. |
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| 02:46.31 | johnsu01 | [Outlaw]: Check out 'man interfaces' |
| 02:46.32 | morggin | ill do that thanks sidicas |
| 02:46.33 | myren__ | but if you want to control volume, there's a huge number of apps which addon |
| 02:46.41 | myren__ | novacat: apt-cache search volume. type that now. |
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| 02:47.09 | myren__ | novacat: that will show you packages which have volume in their description. there should be many. |
| 02:47.23 | novacat | myren: i dont have trouble wit volume, scibly does =) |
| 02:47.31 | myren__ | weekend nights i start suspecting people are bots. |
| 02:47.56 | greycat | myren__: and how does suspecting people are bots make you feel? |
| 02:48.04 | myren__ | i also desperately need to try to stop listening to OutKast - Dracula's Wedding. |
| 02:48.10 | sciboy | myren__: What would you recommend for a fluxbox user? |
| 02:48.20 | myren__ | good reference |
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| 02:48.50 | Rawplayer | looooo |
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| 02:49.36 | sciboy | myren__: What volume thing should i get for fluxbox? Any recommendations? |
| 02:49.59 | myren__ | sciboy: uh.... *shrug*. i stubmled wmixer. doesnt seem particularly awsome, but its workable. personally i'd recommend keyboad shortcuts, but thats just me. |
| 02:50.40 | booboo | sciboy: go with an xmixer or aumix for console, there's also alsamixer |
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| 02:50.43 | jcurry | if I try to apt-get eclipse-platform, i get the following error: |
| 02:50.44 | jcurry | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 02:50.45 | jcurry | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:50.45 | jcurry | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:50.45 | jcurry | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:50.52 | FieldySnuts | dummy |
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| 02:51.08 | jcurry | soory, full error pasted in #flood |
| 02:51.14 | myren__ | wmix too for another wmaker app |
| 02:51.17 | Cicloid | booboo: or gnome-alsamixer ;) |
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| 02:51.32 | booboo | Cicloid: no, dummy to sciboy |
| 02:51.43 | Cicloid | ohhh |
| 02:51.44 | Cicloid | :s |
| 02:51.46 | frzzzt | anybody know what's going to happen to files like XF86Config etc when X.org lands in Sid? Will the files still be named xf* even if it isn't xfree? |
| 02:51.49 | myren__ | seriously, apt-cache search volume, no joke. then just go through the list. hell, apt-cache search volume | grep "Dockapp" |
| 02:52.10 | jcurry | i already have sun's sdk+jre installed, will forcing fsck my system? |
| 02:52.18 | myren__ | it takes no effort just to apt-get install and run them yourself sciboy. find out what YOU like. for simple apps, nothing else makes sense. |
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| 02:52.55 | myren__ | sciboy: learning how to quickly find relevant packages is an easy to pick up skill which will serve you beyond comprehension to the ends of time and space |
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| 02:53.25 | myren__ | thats an interesting ident. ^--- |
| 02:53.25 | sciboy | myren__ : Can't find a mixer device? |
| 02:53.28 | booboo | sciboy: man apt-get, apt-cache |
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| 02:53.41 | sciboy | novacat: Can't find a mixer device? |
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| 02:53.50 | myren__ | sciboy: does alsamixergui run and work? |
| 02:53.50 | daniels | this channel is too bloody big |
| 02:53.50 | xsdg | frzzzt: XF86Config is the XFree conf file; if X.org can use the same file, it will probably just read from there; if not, it will use a different conf file |
| 02:53.51 | nevyn | frzzzt: /etc/x11/xorg.conf |
| 02:54.05 | xsdg | daniels: not like #gentoo :o) |
| 02:54.24 | sidicas | sciboy: Can you play any sound at all? |
| 02:54.24 | booboo | daniels: that's because you're small |
| 02:54.24 | daniels | xsdg: it's still bad |
| 02:54.24 | sciboy | myren__: Haven't got it... |
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| 02:54.24 | jcurry | debian.org tells me the package is unavailable too :( |
| 02:54.24 | sciboy | sidicas: Not atm |
| 02:54.30 | jcurry | http://packages.debian.org/unstable/devel/eclipse-platform |
| 02:54.33 | daniels | the Xorg conffile is /etc/X11/xorg.conf; Xizzle's will be /etc/xizzle.conf |
| 02:54.38 | sciboy | sidicas: I am new to sound in linux :P |
| 02:54.38 | jcurry | what should i do? |
| 02:54.47 | daniels | the format is, of course, the same |
| 02:54.52 | daniels | mwilson: er, x.org are moving to a modular tree. |
| 02:55.00 | daniels | mwilson: which is incidentally where debian is going. |
| 02:55.06 | mwilson | daniels: Yes, your point? |
| 02:55.12 | sidicas | sciboy: run dmesg, see if you see if it says anything about loading your sound correctly |
| 02:55.23 | daniels | mwilson: xfree86 are dead, full stop. xorg are stepping into that breach. |
| 02:55.38 | mwilson | daniels: Tell me something I don't already know. |
| 02:55.44 | booboo | sciboy: for every sound test, you must always put up the speakers and type cat /dev/urandom>/dev/dsp |
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| 02:55.58 | mwilson | daniels: And tell me why I need to waste any time at all worrying about it at this point. |
| 02:56.18 | daniels | mwilson: you don't, which is why you should shut up and stop intruding on others' conversations to proclaim how little you care |
| 02:56.18 | mwilson | daniels: Since it won't be in Sarge, and won't be in unstable any time soon. |
| 02:56.20 | sciboy | booboo: /dev/dsp doesn't exist |
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| 02:56.29 | myren__ | sciboy: does sound work in linux vaguely? |
| 02:56.38 | sidicas | sciboy: For sure, you don't have your sound modules loaded :-) |
| 02:56.49 | jcurry | myren__, do you have the kernel sources installed? |
| 02:56.50 | mwilson | daniels: Instead of fanning up the cluebie, as you are? |
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| 02:56.58 | sidicas | sciboy: Did you say it was a laptop? Do you know what kind of sound board it has? |
| 02:56.59 | deadcat | how does the command to bunzip then untar using pipe instead of -j go? |
| 02:57.02 | myren__ | jcurry: umm..... yes? why? |
| 02:57.02 | jcurry | there is a script in /usr/src/linux/scripts |
| 02:57.02 | booboo | sciboy: to get sound, you need sound drivers first, check what soundcard is in your system |
| 02:57.07 | daniels | mwilson: whatever, dude. |
| 02:57.07 | sciboy | sidicas: It shows that it is loading the module i selected : nm256_sound |
| 02:57.16 | myren__ | oh, didnt see the no /dev/dsp |
| 02:57.18 | sussudio | daniels: pff. you're a troll unworthy of mwilson. |
| 02:57.24 | jcurry | called MAKEDEV.snd |
| 02:57.32 | daniels | xsdg: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 will be searched for and used if present, btw. it's just lower in the order than xorg.conf. |
| 02:57.35 | sussudio | i've seen kawfee troll better. |
| 02:57.40 | jcurry | or should I be talking to sciboy |
| 02:57.43 | myren__ | yeah |
| 02:57.45 | afabian | deadcat, bzcat file.tar.bz2 | tar xvf - ... or, bunzip2 file.tar.bz2 && tar xvf file.tar (if you really want to bunzip the file.) |
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| 02:57.47 | myren__ | sciboy |
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| 02:57.52 | daniels | sussudio: you have interesting viewpoints. |
| 02:57.56 | jcurry | sorry |
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| 02:58.06 | sciboy | myren__ |
| 02:58.09 | jcurry | sciboy, maybe you have the kernel sources installed...? |
| 02:58.12 | deadcat | afabian: thanks. cus this hpux box doesnt have bzcat (= |
| 02:58.13 | booboo | sussudio: isn't mwilson a bot? |
| 02:58.14 | myren__ | sciboy: you need to find your soundcard's module name and modprobe module_name |
| 02:58.19 | g4lt | daniels we've had a few requests for X11R6.7 already, any idea of how long we have to hold them off? ;) |
| 02:58.21 | afabian | Haha. |
| 02:58.30 | sussudio | booboo: i'm afraid not. |
| 02:58.30 | xsdg | booboo: 8P |
| 02:58.32 | daniels | sussudio: it is also interesting to note at this juncture that your away message is: 12:57 [opn] :::: away : badgerrrrwannnnnnnngggg |
| 02:58.35 | sciboy | myren__: Already did... |
| 02:58.38 | booboo | sussudio: liar! |
| 02:58.45 | myren__ | the listen to jcurry |
| 02:58.48 | xsdg | mwilson: botsnack |
| 02:58.48 | sussudio | daniels: you whois'ed me. how quaint. |
| 02:58.50 | mwilson | Sometime next year will be plenty of time to worry about X.org. |
| 02:58.52 | myren__ | s/the/then/ |
| 02:58.57 | Scheme | Is there any other way to setup virtual users other than mysql with exim and courier? |
| 02:58.59 | daniels | booboo: yeah, he just says 'read the fucking manual, you fucking incompetent fucking moron. you are a fucking idiot not worthy of my fucking time. bow!' |
| 02:59.01 | sciboy | myren__: What is ALSA? Is it something i need to apt for? |
| 02:59.16 | g4lt | mwilson did I ask you? |
| 02:59.16 | booboo | *lol* |
| 02:59.16 | daniels | mwilson: good for you |
| 02:59.16 | myren__ | mwilson: in what regards need we worry |
| 02:59.18 | mwilson | daniels: Yes, I certainly said that, didn't I? |
| 02:59.22 | daniels | g4lt: the x.org monolthic tree won't be packaged for debian |
| 02:59.33 | mwilson | daniels: I'm not sure where, but you say I did, therefore I must have. |
| 02:59.36 | daniels | mwilson: if undernet #linux tell you to tone down, you're doing something wrong. |
| 02:59.41 | g4lt | daniels cool, never works ;) |
| 02:59.43 | sidicas | sciboy: Do you even have a /dev/dsp? |
| 02:59.44 | afabian | sciboy, (A)dvanced (L)inux (S)ound (A)rchitecture |
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| 02:59.52 | myren__ | sciboy: ALSA is the sound system linux uses. but if you have your module for your sound card modprobed in (check with lsmod... just run and make sure its listed) you dont need to go the alsas page |
| 02:59.53 | sciboy | sidicas: No... |
| 03:00.00 | jcurry | sciboy, yes, apt-get alsa-something |
| 03:00.01 | sussudio | FieldySnuts: my away messages are especially made for trolls who whois me. |
| 03:00.01 | Spark_ | what package is there for gtk+-fb target? |
| 03:00.18 | daniels | g4lt: anyway, as I was saying. the problem is that it's a large effort (as you saw with 4.3) to move branches of monolithic trees, and we're going to have to make a massive jump to modular anyway. |
| 03:00.29 | jcurry | apt-sciboy cache search alsa for all the packages containing "alsa" |
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| 03:00.46 | jcurry | sciboy apt-cache search alsa for all the packages containing "alsa" |
| 03:00.55 | sciboy | myren__: nm256_sound is loaded and working... |
| 03:00.58 | g4lt | daniels so best advice to the n00bs is "hang on, it's coming, in a big way"? |
| 03:00.58 | narker | in order to enable Frame Buffer Support in the kernel configuration, do I have to disable "VGA Text Console" ??? |
| 03:00.58 | daniels | g4lt: so we're just biding our time. i'm working upstream on the modular tree (releasing a new xlibs today or tomorrow, working on xserver, importing new apps), to make it useful - then we'll package it. |
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| 03:01.11 | Spark_ | narker: no |
| 03:01.12 | myren__ | jcurry: is /dev/dsp just for oss back emulation perhaps? |
| 03:01.13 | sciboy | myren__: Is ALSA something i need to grab before the sound works? |
| 03:01.22 | sussudio | narker: if it would, it would tell you. |
| 03:01.24 | jcurry | myren__, i think so |
| 03:01.24 | daniels | g4lt: right. it won't be until after sarge, tho; the release flunkeys have given us strict orders to that effect. |
| 03:01.25 | Spark_ | narker: you can have the frame buffer, you can also have console on frame buffer as well if you want |
| 03:01.27 | sidicas | sciboy: If it was working properly you should have /dev/dsp. What kernel version are you running? |
| 03:01.38 | jcurry | sciboy, yes, you need alsa |
| 03:01.38 | narker | Spark_ : so what do I have to enable? |
| 03:01.38 | myren__ | sciboy: i'm not entirely sure quite how it works, but i believe the kernel module is most of alsa. |
| 03:01.40 | Spark_ | narker: you probably need a kernel paramater to turn it all on anyway |
| 03:01.41 | Scheme | Is there any other way to setup virtual users other than mysql with exim and courier? |
| 03:01.43 | daniels | sussudio: you have reminded me with alarming clarity why i don't bother with #debian. |
| 03:01.45 | Vantage_ | anyone have a usb scanner going with 2.6.3 or 2.6.4? |
| 03:01.49 | g4lt | daniels fair enough. Thanks for The Word though |
| 03:01.50 | everton | hi guys, please suggest a startcraft-like strategy game for debian |
| 03:01.54 | myren__ | sidicas: /dev/dsp might just be (optional) oss emulation. |
| 03:01.55 | sussudio | daniels: too hard to troll here? |
| 03:02.01 | sciboy | sidicas: 2.4.25 |
| 03:02.05 | narker | Spark_ : so what do I need to enable fb support? it seems I have everything enabled... how can I know it? |
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| 03:02.20 | sidicas | myren__: Really? Wow, I didn't know that lol.. |
| 03:02.26 | daniels | sussudio: every time I'm asked in here to answer a question, I end up having to deal with tools |
| 03:02.29 | Spark_ | theres nothing to it i think |
| 03:02.33 | Spark_ | what do you want exactly? |
| 03:02.38 | daniels | g4lt: eh, I live to give |
| 03:02.51 | narker | Spark_ : Enable FB on console... I want a 1024x768 resolution |
| 03:02.52 | daniels | g4lt: there will also be some new X maintainers when the modular change happens |
| 03:02.55 | myren__ | sciboy: run a music player, i dunno, xmms, tell us if you can get any sound |
| 03:02.57 | narker | I want to have fb enabled |
| 03:02.57 | Spark_ | ah right |
| 03:03.03 | Spark_ | then you want 'console on framebuffer' |
| 03:03.06 | myren__ | sciboy: what mixer were you trying to use |
| 03:03.11 | narker | yes Spark_ |
| 03:03.12 | Spark_ | what fb driver are you going to use |
| 03:03.13 | Spark_ | vesa? |
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| 03:03.24 | sussudio | daniels: you haven't actually asked a question, you just trolled a bit. |
| 03:03.25 | narker | My video card is a SIS onboard |
| 03:03.25 | sciboy | myren__: Gimme 5mins need to apt it.... |
| 03:03.28 | mith | is there a way to delete to the begining of a document in vi? |
| 03:03.34 | g4lt | daniels dditions, I hope :) |
| 03:03.42 | sciboy | myren__: Make that 12mins... |
| 03:03.47 | myren__ | heh, i removed my radeonfb drivers and my screen did the most beautiful bit decay i've ever seen. rotted to white. |
| 03:03.49 | g4lt | sussudio /whois daniels |
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| 03:04.04 | afabian | mith: What is the "beginning"? |
| 03:04.04 | booboo | myren__: i think he loves you |
| 03:04.09 | daniels | sussudio: I answered the X.Org question, given I'm in a reasonable capacity to be answering such questions. |
| 03:04.10 | sussudio | g4lt: and? |
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| 03:04.12 | Spark_ | mith: dgg |
| 03:04.22 | sciboy | myren__: wmix |
| 03:04.27 | Spark_ | narker: find out what driver you need for that chipset |
| 03:04.27 | mith | Spark_: awsome |
| 03:04.38 | Spark_ | gg = beginning of document |
| 03:04.40 | sciboy | myren__: And i was playing an mpg in xine to test... |
| 03:04.41 | daniels | g4lt: hopefully additions - there are 3 definite additions, and 2 maybes. the question is whether Branden wants to stay on or get out of the whole X packaging game, and he's not forthcoming in this regard. |
| 03:04.43 | Spark_ | see also dG d$ etc |
| 03:04.47 | booboo | daniels: heard of the linux registry project? (sf.net) |
| 03:04.49 | afabian | Oh. I missed the word "to." |
| 03:04.56 | g4lt | sussudio if he's talking about X, the only one that would gainsay that is overfiend, and I presume they finally agreed |
| 03:05.01 | afabian | Isn't that a vim-ism? d1G |
| 03:05.15 | deadcat | if i want nvidia support under 2.6, just apt-get install nvidia-kernel-src nvidia-glx-src right? or i need patch? |
| 03:05.19 | daniels | booboo: nope |
| 03:05.21 | sussudio | g4lt: you can't talk about overfiend without Penix being in the channel. he'll feel hurt. |
| 03:05.44 | myren__ | sciboy: did the video make music play? |
| 03:06.56 | sciboy | myren__: No audio came through, and i put the volume in xine to the max! |
| 03:07.08 | sidicas | sciboy: I think Xine by default will try /dev/dsp |
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| 03:07.38 | sodas | how would I save a file in vi :save without requiring the filename, since I dont know it? |
| 03:07.52 | g4lt | sodas :w |
| 03:07.55 | deadcat | xine fails with this "dxr3_scr: Failed to open control device /dev/em8300-0 (No such file or directory)": any idea? |
| 03:08.05 | deadcat | i dont have dvd |
| 03:08.19 | sidicas | deadcat: You have one of those Hollywood decoder cards? |
| 03:08.32 | deadcat | sidicas: no card. no dvd-rom. |
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| 03:08.34 | booboo | sodas: do the vim tutorial, otherwise its little hard to learn things (:w) |
| 03:08.46 | FieldySnuts | heh badgerrrrwannnnnnnngggg |
| 03:08.50 | g4lt | (actually, technically, that won't not require the filename, it'll just fill in the present filename) |
| 03:08.56 | myren__ | sciboy: run alsamixergui and adjust volumes through that. that, unlike wmix or what not, will most definatly work |
| 03:09.15 | jaymes | I just set up diald & a home wlan |
| 03:09.23 | sidicas | deadcat: for some reason you have the dxr3 stuff set which is for a hardware dvd-decoder.. Unless I'm mistaken... I used to own one until I got a faster computer |
| 03:09.38 | sidicas | deadcat: How'd you install xine? |
| 03:09.44 | myren__ | sidicas: i have one of those chillin in my bin of parts. |
| 03:09.45 | deadcat | sidicas: apt-get isntall |
| 03:09.56 | jaymes | can i set up a simple proxy so that when some one tries to go to a web page, they're redirected to my webpage (that keeps refreshing the page they want) ? |
| 03:10.34 | sidicas | deadcat: Does Xine start at all? |
| 03:10.39 | booboo | jaymes: maybe you're looking for ddyns |
| 03:10.40 | sciboy | myren__: Ok, will get after xmms finishes... |
| 03:10.48 | g4lt | jaymes trying to t up a way to ensure you win on ebay? ;) |
| 03:10.50 | booboo | jaymes: rather dyndns |
| 03:10.54 | deadcat | sidicas: starts then exits right away. and spits that error |
| 03:11.03 | deadcat | sidicas: $? == 127 |
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| 03:11.28 | jaymes | hrm, perhaps I didn't explain it correctly |
| 03:11.47 | jaymes | at present I have a secondary line that is shared between two computer systems |
| 03:11.54 | myren__ | is there any parituclar reason there's no async socket i/o? |
| 03:11.55 | sodas | what are some good alternatives to sourceforge? |
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| 03:12.01 | jaymes | via a linux routing box |
| 03:12.05 | myren__ | just a bitch to implement? |
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| 03:12.13 | sidicas | try xine -V xv |
| 03:12.16 | g4lt | sodas <spit> sourcefire |
| 03:12.19 | deadcat | k. |
| 03:12.23 | sidicas | deadcat: See if that starts it |
| 03:12.26 | jaymes | diald will automatically bring up ppp0, but it takes a bit of time |
| 03:12.29 | booboo | sodas: good alternatives to what? |
| 03:12.29 | sodas | g4lt: ? |
| 03:12.35 | sodas | booboo: sourceforge |
| 03:12.49 | deadcat | sidicas: got rid of that last error, but still have this "xine: relocation error: xine: undefined symbol: xine_osd_get_capabilities" |
| 03:12.54 | myren__ | anyone have thoughts for how i can "export" a serial port so i can read it from another computer? |
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| 03:13.10 | g4lt | sodas last time I head they wanted to go to asf-like setup, I just despise the people there |
| 03:13.18 | jaymes | when someone hits a web page, instead of it just timing out while it waits for the connection, I want to send them back a status message |
| 03:13.19 | sidicas | deadcat: Can you get into the Xine setup? Change a few things? |
| 03:13.32 | sidicas | deadcat: or does it close right away? |
| 03:13.33 | deadcat | sidicas: no. but i can edit the config file right? |
| 03:13.37 | jaymes | until the connection is up, and then redirect to the requested webpage |
| 03:13.37 | sodas | g4lt: I dont like SF either, thats why im looking for an alternative |
| 03:13.43 | sidicas | deadcat: go for it |
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| 03:13.55 | deadcat | sidicas: whta am i looking for? osd ? |
| 03:13.57 | g4lt | no, I deal with sf, sourcefire's the bastards |
| 03:14.02 | jaymes | I dunno how dyndns would help me? |
| 03:14.11 | sodas | wtf is sourcefire? |
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| 03:14.43 | ChoJin | what's the difference (and which one is the more stable) between mozilla-mplayer and mplayer-mozilla ? |
| 03:14.43 | g4lt | sodas are you actually looking at what I say AT ALL? |
| 03:15.02 | ChoJin | (yes I know I could test myself ... but if someone has some feedback to give ... :) ) |
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| 03:15.45 | greycat | ChoJin: uh... one's not in debian, and the other one's not in debian? |
| 03:15.52 | sodas | g4lt: No, I dont understand what the hell is sourcefire.. ohh they fired you? you used to work at sf? |
| 03:16.06 | ChoJin | greycat: one in debian and the other from marilla |
| 03:16.12 | ChoJin | marillat even |
| 03:16.15 | sidicas | deadcat: That sounds more like a compile problem... Where'd you get the package from? |
| 03:16.18 | g4lt | sodas just fucking forget I said anything |
| 03:16.24 | sodas | g4lt: noo tell me |
| 03:16.28 | deadcat | sidicas: berkeley's repo |
| 03:16.28 | greycat | ChoJin: ah, sorry. |
| 03:16.38 | Andre | alguem do brazil |
| 03:16.40 | g4lt | sodas why, so you can fail to listen more? |
| 03:16.46 | greycat | !tell Andre about portuguese |
| 03:16.50 | sodas | g4lt: I didnt get whhat you were saying |
| 03:17.04 | sodas | Andre: voçe tem que join #debian-br |
| 03:17.11 | jaymes | booboo: did you mean just do the dns until the connection is up and then proxy the lookups? |
| 03:17.21 | deadcat | sidicas: ya. i think you're right. maybe i just have to update && reinstall it. |
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| 03:17.30 | sidicas | deadcat: good luck.. |
| 03:17.38 | deadcat | thanks |
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| 03:17.56 | [Robbie] | what happened to the CBDTPA? (government policeware act) did it pass through congress? I find it weird that no news media websites have reported on it since 2002 according to my searches... |
| 03:18.27 | sidicas | deadcat: Does xine-check run? |
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| 03:19.15 | deadcat | sidicas: got some ouch on few plugins |
| 03:19.15 | [Robbie] | why not have your daylight savings at christmas and new year like we do |
| 03:19.21 | [Robbie] | you can party harder |
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| 03:19.57 | sidicas | deadcat: prolly nothing that would stop it from running... You could try rerunning xine-config (should have run on package installation).. and try adjusting stuff |
| 03:20.02 | deadcat | sidicas: xine-check doesnt check my ~/.xine dir right? cus i might have the plugins there. and xine used to work fine. |
| 03:20.05 | g4lt | [Robbie] because lighter days and lighter wallets just seem to go together, and xmas ins't nearly as wallet-lightening as 4/15;) |
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| 03:20.26 | [Robbie] | g4lt: but what about new years eve, you have to stay up all night |
| 03:20.31 | sciboy | I'm back! |
| 03:20.47 | sidicas | deadcat: Make sure you have the plugin dirs set and stuff |
| 03:20.52 | sidicas | deadcat: I'm out of ideas :-) |
| 03:20.53 | deadcat | k |
| 03:20.53 | g4lt | [Robbie] therefore, what time the sun rises is of little importance;) |
| 03:20.57 | deadcat | hehe |
| 03:21.10 | sciboy | myren__: XMMS, couldn't load audio, alsamixergui failed to load |
| 03:21.35 | g4lt | besides going on DST during the shortest days of the year is just...wrong |
| 03:22.08 | OBcecado | (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. <- how can i configure screens in Xserver ? |
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| 03:22.52 | g4lt | [Robbie] what oint would there be for DST in, say, Alaska at that point, since the Sun will never rise that month? |
| 03:23.03 | [Robbie] | right then |
| 03:23.12 | sidicas | OBcecado: Search on google and lookup how to setup XF86Config-4 |
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| 03:23.20 | nvz | OBcecado: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, areas of interest are saying NO to framebuffer, selecting the right video driver, enogh screen resolutions, and properly configuring the monitor (most likely your problem) |
| 03:23.20 | esben | www.es-web.dk/boot.gif my new bootsplash |
| 03:23.51 | OBcecado | thanks |
| 03:24.07 | nvz | OBcecado: I;d google for your monitor "i.e.: google > 'NEC MultiSync 6fg hsync'" and enter the ranges manually under Advanced |
| 03:24.11 | sciboy | Lets say i installed Debian woody on my system and it is completely bare (minimal) and i wanted sound, what would i do? |
| 03:24.32 | sidicas | sciboy: Install the modules :-) |
| 03:24.35 | nvz | !sync ranges |
| 03:24.48 | nvz | !hello |
| 03:24.49 | dpkg | HI, nvz! |
| 03:24.57 | nvz | !listkeys sync |
| 03:24.59 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'sync' by key (15 shown; 19 total): synchronous transport signal level 1 (sts-1) ;; synchronous ;; rsyncforpol ;; resync ;; idiosync ;; tyme sync ;; time synch ;; rsync ;; rsync backup ;; "in swapper task - not syncing" ;; malsync ;; synchro` ;; rsync install ;; synchro` #DEL# ;; ppc rsync. |
| 03:25.08 | sciboy | sidicas: Which modules would we be talking bout here? |
| 03:25.26 | nvz | !sync ranges |
| 03:25.28 | sciboy | sidicas: nm256_sound? |
| 03:25.34 | sodas | how can I enable nano to use the keypad? |
| 03:25.38 | sidicas | sciboy: Find out what kind of sound card is in your system, and then make sure you have all of them... You might need more than 1 |
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| 03:25.55 | nvz | !listvals monitor sync |
| 03:25.57 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'monitor sync' by value (1 shown): sync. |
| 03:26.02 | nvz | !sync |
| 03:26.02 | dpkg | for monitor Sync ranges and Refresh rates, see http://www.dewback.cl/files/public/confs/syncs.html |
| 03:26.16 | nvz | couldnt even remember the factoid I created |
| 03:26.18 | sodas | !nano |
| 03:26.19 | dpkg | nano is, like, at http://www.nano-editor.org/, or a DFSG-free alternative to pico, or 10^-9 |
| 03:26.23 | Dmac256 | how do I make a device for my sound card |
| 03:26.31 | sodas | Dmac256: load the driver |
| 03:26.39 | g4lt | Dmac256 properly loading the driver ;) |
| 03:26.40 | nvz | OBcecado: http://www.dewback.cl/files/public/confs/syncs.html |
| 03:26.45 | sciboy | sidicaS: done, what next? |
| 03:26.47 | Dmac256 | where do I get the driver? |
| 03:26.51 | sodas | Dmac256: what sound card?¿ |
| 03:27.07 | g4lt | !tell Dmac256 about audio |
| 03:27.14 | sidicas | sciboy: Make sure your users are added to group audio |
| 03:27.15 | Dmac256 | soundblaster live! 5.1 |
| 03:27.23 | sodas | Dmac256: modprobe emuk101 should do it |
| 03:27.31 | sodas | Dmac256: as root, and read what g4lt sent you |
| 03:27.33 | deadcat | Dmac256: ya. thats what i am using too |
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| 03:27.36 | sciboy | sidicas: How do i do that? |
| 03:27.52 | g4lt | !tell sciboy about audio |
| 03:27.52 | platypus | how do i set up so that the psmouse and devmouse modules are loaded during bootup ? |
| 03:27.53 | nvz | sciboy: adduser <user> audio |
| 03:28.47 | sodas | platypus: /etc/modules |
| 03:28.53 | sodas | platypus: also check modconf |
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| 03:29.21 | jaymes | there a debian-ppc? |
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| 03:29.30 | platypus | sodas, thanks |
| 03:29.42 | g4lt | jaymes yeah, ask simonrvn all about it ;) |
| 03:29.49 | jaymes | duh |
| 03:30.02 | sciboy | I didn't have the alsa-base installed :P |
| 03:30.07 | myren__ | oh fuck, whats undo in vim |
| 03:30.24 | simonrvn | u |
| 03:30.40 | sodas | myren__: ESC + :u |
| 03:30.47 | rizen- | eek! HELP! I either get "crc error" for 2.6.x or "Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 102cfad0" for 2.4.x |
| 03:30.49 | OBcecado | humm, my monitor isn't shown in that list (yakumo) |
| 03:31.05 | rizen- | this is at boot up and recovery mode doesnt help :( |
| 03:31.38 | myren__ | thanks all |
| 03:31.45 | g4lt | OBcecado unless it's a single-freq, all you have to do is just select the general size from the simple menu |
| 03:31.48 | sidicas | rizen-: I remember there being a crc32 module or something that could be compiled into the 2.6 kernels.. not sure if that's what your looking for |
| 03:32.30 | OBcecado | i'll try |
| 03:34.43 | Dmac256 | modprobe doesn't find emuk101 |
| 03:35.01 | sidicas | Dmac256: type dmesg, does it load on startup? |
| 03:35.28 | sidicas | Dmac256: should be emu10k1 |
| 03:35.29 | deadcat | Dmac256: what kernel you using? |
| 03:35.44 | simonrvn | there is a crc32 module. i just build that in |
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| 03:35.59 | sussudio | built |
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| 03:37.35 | sidicas | Everybody luvs their SBLive... Great little card.. Can't believe how cheap they are now.. Incredible.. |
| 03:37.39 | sidicas | I bought several |
| 03:37.48 | sidicas | Works wonderfully in Linux |
| 03:37.50 | deadcat | sidicas: hehehe. |
| 03:38.01 | deadcat | ya. i got one for $33 and the other one for free. heheh |
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| 03:38.11 | mwilson | <shrug> Not like 99.9% of people need anything more than a clean DAC. |
| 03:38.13 | deadcat | sidicas: midi works? havent tried that yet. |
| 03:38.20 | sidicas | deadcat: Yup |
| 03:38.37 | sidicas | deadcat: well, not *all* instruments... must most |
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| 03:38.56 | deadcat | sidicas: how do you play? or get it to play? |
| 03:39.23 | mwilson | For most people, a $5 card plays their MP3's, and what else do they need? |
| 03:39.38 | sidicas | deadcat: I think I looked at the top of the .cpp file to figure it out.. I think it depends on an OSS module last I checked sound.o |
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| 03:40.53 | sciboy | Ok, it didn't load the module saying that it wasn't sure whether the module i was loading was the AC-97 compatible version... |
| 03:41.25 | sciboy | How do i force it to load? |
| 03:41.59 | sidicas | Look at main.c drivers/sound/emu10k1 (for kernel 2.4.x) says its only *mostly* OSS compatible.. not sure how it is in 2.6 |
| 03:42.15 | sidicas | The driver has come a long way since then probably :-) |
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| 03:42.37 | sciboy | sidicas: You talking to me? |
| 03:42.37 | Dmac256 | sidicas: dmesg doesn't show anything about emu10k1 and when I typed it in as modprobe emu10k1 there was no message just a new prompt |
| 03:42.47 | sidicas | sciboy: no |
| 03:43.15 | sciboy | good :) |
| 03:43.21 | sidicas | Dmac256: now type lsmod and see if it shows up there |
| 03:43.23 | Dmac256 | deadcat: kernel is 2.6 I think |
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| 03:44.10 | Dmac256 | sidicas: it is listed but (unused) |
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| 03:44.15 | sidicas | sciboy: Some sound cards use 2 drivers, the AC-97 and their regular one |
| 03:44.19 | kees____ | I have a problem, after using webmin to modify lilo settings my system won't boot, many "Read-only filesystem" errors, what is the usual fstab entry for ext3? |
| 03:44.23 | sidicas | Dmac256: That's good.. looks like it worked :-) |