| 00:00.06 | Youkai_Sesshouma | bofh80: I'm through the socks server. |
| 00:00.12 | docelic_ | Toolah, I suppose you should be fine with it (or possibly with a complete version, not bf ("Boot Floppies")). Most of the work is in userspace |
| 00:00.33 | Youkai_Sesshouma | bofh80: The programs who has a proxy configuration, I can get access. |
| 00:00.44 | Thetan7 | das_netz it is something I never used. The matter of fact is that you need load balancing support in the kernel. |
| 00:00.49 | Thetan7 | das_netz do you have that? |
| 00:01.07 | Youkai_Sesshouma | bofh80: But the ones who assume I have a direct connection, can't use the nat. |
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| 00:01.16 | das_netz | Thetan7, yes.. |
| 00:01.25 | Thetan7 | das_netz how are you sure? |
| 00:01.33 | das_netz | Thetan7, im sure |
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| 00:01.40 | bofh80 | Youkai_Sesshouma: what happens if you ping www.google.com from a windows box? |
| 00:02.00 | Youkai_Sesshouma | bofh80: It returns the ping ok. |
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| 00:02.19 | bahadunn | is ther eany way to kill something for sure no matter what besides kill -9? |
| 00:02.31 | Thetan7 | I think this link gives you instructions: http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue36/tag/1.html |
| 00:02.37 | Youkai_Sesshouma | bofh80: But they are using some wingate client software I think. |
| 00:02.39 | bofh80 | Youkai_Sesshouma: and is there somekind of wingate proxy client running on the windows machine? |
| 00:02.41 | Thetan7 | das_netz including Serial IP Load Balancing HOWTO |
| 00:02.43 | doug_ | when i get into dpkg reconfig xserver-xfree86, it bugs out and i got nothing but blue.. have to alt to another tty and kill the process. Is there a way I can whipe out X and everything with it, including the config files, everything? |
| 00:02.52 | Toolah | docelic_, sorry, you lost me there. To start from the beginning, How does a simple newbie user set up networking of files in linux? |
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| 00:02.55 | bofh80 | Youkai_Sesshouma: you should see it running in the system tray? |
| 00:02.58 | doug_ | it laods the first menu and thats it |
| 00:03.00 | DrPete | somiaj : ok, thanks so much, just ran winscp on a box and it seems to connect ok |
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| 00:03.11 | Youkai_Sesshouma | bofh80: Yes, it's there. |
| 00:03.15 | Thetan7 | Toolah what is wrong with NFS, come on. set it up. |
| 00:03.16 | kinky | brb! |
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| 00:03.35 | das_netz | Thetan7, im sure ... im include Serial IP Load Balancing |
| 00:03.48 | Toolah | lol I am trying!! I had it working the other night no probs, thought it was too easy, and now it wont mount |
| 00:04.01 | somiaj | DrPete: yea, I have never had problems with winscp connencting...I have just ran into an issue with gftp-gtk (because it looks for the stp server in /usr/bin/sftp-server |
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| 00:04.27 | das_netz | Thetan7, load balancing work it with the single machine... but if i use iptables then LAN dont work it |
| 00:04.31 | Thetan7 | das_netz /usr/src/linux/Documentation/networking/eql.txt |
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| 00:04.33 | Toolah | Thetan7, I am thinking the only thing I have done is a apt-get upgrade, so could that have broken anything? |
| 00:04.39 | Thetan7 | das_netz it really says how to do it. |
| 00:04.59 | das_netz | Thetan7, im looking |
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| 00:05.00 | mike | Can i use apt-get to get something so that my dual cpu's work in smp? |
| 00:05.04 | Thetan7 | das_netz so the matter is not load balancing but iptables. |
| 00:05.06 | doug_ | my dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 is broken ... gives me a BSOD after the first menu. All i want to do is specify a different type of mouse.. anyone ? please |
| 00:05.17 | Thetan7 | das_netz put first simple NAT without any filtering. |
| 00:05.25 | Unbeliever_ | doug_: edit your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
| 00:05.26 | Thetan7 | doug_ BSOD on debian? har har har |
| 00:05.32 | somiaj | mike: get an -smp kernel? |
| 00:05.34 | doug_ | man, you want to telnet in? |
| 00:05.38 | Unbeliever_ | doug_: There are documents on google for ALL types of mice, so no moaning |
| 00:05.39 | doug_ | bsod |
| 00:05.46 | Toolah | Thetan7, I have followed the NFS-howto and am stuck at starting the nfs daemons on my debian client box - rpcinfo -p just reports portmapper and status as running |
| 00:05.55 | doug_ | ok sorry but i got limited web browsing ability right now |
| 00:05.59 | das_netz | Thetan7, with simple NAT then work it |
| 00:06.04 | Unbeliever_ | doug_: limited? |
| 00:06.05 | Thetan7 | Toolah did you install nfs-kernel-server ? |
| 00:06.16 | Unbeliever_ | doug_: apt-get install elinks |
| 00:06.19 | Unbeliever_ | no excuses |
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| 00:06.26 | Mothas | OK - I'm in the midst of trying to install debian. I got to the first reboot, and the system hangs just after detecting the processors and testing the ram. I note that not all the ram was detected. I also noted that the install did not have drivers for all my hardware listed. Any suggestions? |
| 00:06.27 | doug_ | Hey. Take it easy, i got an answer from someone else |
| 00:06.34 | macaco | Hi |
| 00:06.40 | Thetan7 | Toolah did you configure /etc/exports? |
| 00:06.44 | das_netz | Thetan7, with single modem the masquerading work it... work it very good |
| 00:06.49 | macaco | Hi!!!!!! |
| 00:06.50 | Thetan7 | man exports |
| 00:06.53 | doug_ | oh wait that was you |
| 00:06.58 | macaco | Hi!!!!!! |
| 00:07.00 | Toolah | Thetan7, this box is the client, do I need to install the kernel server to access the exports from anther box? |
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| 00:07.08 | macaco | Hi!!!!!! |
| 00:07.14 | Thetan7 | das_netz your solution is to properly configure masquerading not eql |
| 00:07.23 | Thetan7 | Toolah on the server you configure exports |
| 00:07.25 | Unbeliever_ | someone did a /timer... |
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| 00:07.38 | das_netz | Thetan7, how? |
| 00:07.40 | macaco | What |
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| 00:07.44 | Thetan7 | Toolah if you want to mount: mount -t nfs server:/export/path /mnt/point |
| 00:07.45 | Toolah | Thetan7, I was able to mount the export the other night but can't now - and yes, exports are configured |
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| 00:07.55 | das_netz | Thetan7, tell me your idea? |
| 00:08.01 | Thetan7 | das_netz I do not know your network config. I am not going into it now. |
| 00:08.08 | dli | my CPU usage in top: 90.4% user, 9.0% system, 0.0% nice, 0.0% idle |
| 00:08.11 | Thetan7 | das_netz my idea is that you read masquearading howto. |
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| 00:08.21 | doug_ | what's an alternative protocol to ImPS/2? a common one? |
| 00:08.31 | dli | is there anyway to find out what's the cause of the 9.0% system usage? |
| 00:08.38 | Thetan7 | Toolah so did you try to mount the directory from the server? |
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| 00:08.48 | das_netz | Thetan7, cool :), im eating masquerading howto |
| 00:08.54 | das_netz | Thetan7, cool :), im eating masquerading howto now |
| 00:08.57 | zappalin | what can i do to install the official nvidia driver under debian? it does't find the kernel version..! |
| 00:08.57 | Toolah | Thetan7, when I try and mount I get this error "mount: RPC: Program not registered", googling that tells me that I don't have NFS daemons running on my client |
| 00:09.01 | Thetan7 | good apetite. |
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| 00:09.19 | Thetan7 | Toolah you do not need nfs daemons on your clients |
| 00:09.49 | Toolah | Thetan7, ok, now I am totally confused then |
| 00:09.53 | loq | once I am in X -- how do I start gnome, or KDE? |
| 00:10.00 | dli | zappalin: apt-get install nvidia-kernel-source |
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| 00:10.10 | amax | hi guys, i just replaced a CDrom drive with a DVDrom one. Do I have to do something to reflect this change? |
| 00:10.20 | Deosil | when I do apt-get install nvidia-kernel-source it fails. |
| 00:10.23 | Thetan7 | Thetan I mean nfs server is on the server. |
| 00:10.32 | Thetan7 | Opps that was for Toolah: mean nfs server is on the server. |
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| 00:10.37 | dli | Deosi1: got the unstable |
| 00:10.44 | giny | How to set the system enviroment variable when not login? |
| 00:10.49 | Deosil | I use -t unstable. |
| 00:10.51 | Thetan7 | Toolah and can you mount on your server the directory? |
| 00:10.59 | Thetan7 | Toolah maybe server has some firewall on it. |
| 00:10.59 | Deosil | I am running sarge right now. |
| 00:11.01 | Toolah | Thetan7, yes |
| 00:11.05 | somiaj | loq: its best to start it up with X by adding it to your .xsession file, also look at update-alternatives under the x-session-manager and set that to what you would prefer to be default |
| 00:11.13 | Thetan7 | Toolah maybe it does not allow connection from that client. |
| 00:11.16 | dli | Deosi1: yeah, you need the package in unstable |
| 00:11.23 | Thetan7 | Toolah what is the line in /etc/exports of the server? Give it here. |
| 00:11.24 | somiaj | loq: display managers, ?dm, will also allow for varrious types of login's KDE, GNOME, etc |
| 00:12.13 | Thetan7 | Toolah exports file must give permission for client. |
| 00:12.13 | Mothas | Can anybody help a newb get this thing installed? I'm not having much luck - getting a hang on first reboot. |
| 00:12.17 | zappalin | E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing? |
| 00:12.23 | zappalin | whyyyyy |
| 00:12.36 | Thetan7 | apt-get update && apt-get --fix-missing |
| 00:12.46 | dli | Mothas: what's the massage at hang? |
| 00:12.56 | somiaj | Mothas: what think are you talking about? |
| 00:13.04 | Toolah | Thetan7, /etc/exports "/var/ftp/pub/Music 192.168.0.0/24(rw,async)" |
| 00:13.19 | Mothas | I just went through install. Just after (incorrect) memory test, nothing happens. No message. |
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| 00:13.28 | Thetan7 | Toolah yes, it looks to me ok. |
| 00:13.42 | Mothas | System has 2GB ram, 882 detected. Post stops there. |
| 00:13.45 | Thetan7 | Toolah try on server to mount it: mount -t nfs /var/ftp/pub/Music /mnt/point |
| 00:14.05 | linagee_ | i have evolution and debian. can someone please tell me how to get jpeg previews to work? :( |
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| 00:14.10 | Toolah | Thetan7, thing is, it worked great the other night! even after configuring with a few too many beers |
| 00:14.13 | zappalin | yeaah tnx |
| 00:14.14 | Thetan7 | Toolah if it works is there anything in /etc/hosts.allow and hosts.deny? |
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| 00:14.56 | Thetan7 | Toolah restart your daemons. |
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| 00:15.14 | Deosil | dli: I installed the 2.6.4 kernel source and compiled a new kernel. Then I booted into the kernel. When it boots up XServer dies and will not start. I get a core pointer failed (it looks like it can't load the mouse or something). I then ran the NVIDIA installer and it compiles a new kernel interface and installs... I edited the XF86Config-4 in the /etc/X11 directory and changed to the nvidia driver vs. 'nv' driver. and |
| 00:15.19 | Deosil | the same mouse error |
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| 00:15.50 | bofh80 | !tell bofh80 about root |
| 00:15.54 | Toolah | Thetan7, yes, able to mount fine under /mnt/junk on the server |
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| 00:16.17 | Thetan7 | Toolah well good for now. Check hosts.deny and allow in /etc of the server |
| 00:16.25 | Mothas | dli: The system did run OK under Knoppix so I don't think its a hardware problem - is there something you need to tell the installer that you have large memory? |
| 00:16.34 | linagee_ | nobody knows how to get ximian evolution to show jpegs in emails? :( |
| 00:16.48 | dli | Deosi1: disable apic in kernel, might help |
| 00:17.08 | dli | Mothas: how large? |
| 00:17.08 | Mothas | dli: Also, the next thing after this during boot should be loading of 3ware bios, which did not seem to be an option in the driver selection. |
| 00:17.13 | Thetan7 | Toolah who knows what you changed in the mean time. |
| 00:17.16 | Mothas | dli: 2GB RAM |
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| 00:17.36 | Toolah | can I paste 5 lines here? in hosts.deny it has :ALL for each daemon and portmap per NFS-HOWTO |
| 00:17.58 | Thetan7 | Toolah har har har |
| 00:18.01 | Deosil | dli: ok I should rebuild my 2.6.4 kernel and disable apic? (running 2.4.25 right now btw.) |
| 00:18.15 | Thetan7 | Toolah comment everything in hosts.deny and try to mount. |
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| 00:18.27 | dli | Mothas: need to know why it hangs. :) |
| 00:18.30 | Deosil | ANYONE running a highpoint rocketraid 1540 or something close? |
| 00:18.31 | Thetan7 | Toolah if it works, find out the real configuration for .deny |
| 00:18.48 | bofh80 | you know what would be nice for linux, system tools just like netwares, ie, print console, syscon, etc. they were nice... |
| 00:19.06 | dli | Deosi1: right, 2.6 kernel got problems with apic, when it comes to nvidia |
| 00:19.13 | Thetan7 | rockets are always welcome. |
| 00:19.29 | DrPete | can you monitor ssh i.e sftp connections? |
| 00:19.39 | erol | how do I get an /etc/X11/X ? I can't run X because thhat's missing |
| 00:19.41 | Toolah | Thetan7, in hosts.allow I have portmap: 192.168.0.0/24 and for each daemon |
| 00:19.46 | Mothas | dli: Me too. Getting linux installed on this system is a pain. Wish I had something easier to work with. |
| 00:20.19 | Thetan7 | Toolah I cannot know transfer all files which you have by telepathyFS, so I would rather comment all .deny and try to mount from client. |
| 00:20.54 | Deosil | dli: what could be the problem with the pointer core failing... (not detecting a mouse) If I use a stock image.2.6.2 kernel I get the same problem... actually when I made the changes etc.. the xserver starts up and I see the nvidia desktop graphic but then it crashes back down... |
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| 00:21.28 | Thetan7 | erol: it is symlink to the real server: /etc/X11/X -> /usr/bin/X11/XFree86 |
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| 00:21.44 | erol | Thetan7 tnx |
| 00:21.59 | dli | Deosi1: enable the mouse options in kernel |
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| 00:22.08 | Deosil | dli: I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and set all the setting but the settings never made it to my XF86Config-4 file.. |
| 00:22.26 | Thetan7 | Deosil if you see Nvidia greeting, that is so far ok. only mouse is missing. maybe modules: psmouse and mousedev |
| 00:22.33 | Mothas | dli: Maybe I should take that back about it not being hardware. I just rebooted again and got the NTLDR is missing message. Evidently LILO did not make it onto my MBR. |
| 00:22.34 | dli | Deosi1: no, not xserver, must be enabled in kernel |
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| 00:23.17 | Deosil | dli... ok checking my .config for mouse(s) :) |
| 00:23.36 | Toolah | Thetan7, googled for telepathFS, found the HOW-TO and just tarballed /etc and sent it too you - great bandwidth btw - recieve it ok? |
| 00:23.48 | doug_ | when configging X, do i have to enter the PCI:BUS:whatever info or can i get away with leaving it blank |
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| 00:24.06 | erol | well what is there is no /usr/bin/X11/Xfree86? |
| 00:24.09 | Thetan7 | Toolah, I am behind a firewall for telepathFS. I have to kill the admin first. |
| 00:24.10 | dli | Deosi1: it's hard, input devices, character devices, or USB |
| 00:24.16 | g4lt | doug_ on X86, you can leave it alone |
| 00:24.29 | loq | is there a way to say like.. at startup I want to run dhclient and sshd ? |
| 00:24.32 | doug_ | nice |
| 00:24.34 | loq | sort of like an auto-exec |
| 00:24.34 | loq | ? |
| 00:24.41 | Toolah | Thetan7, ok - commented out everything in hosts.deny and now it works, what is the ip/mask for a 192.168.0.0 network? |
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| 00:25.05 | dli | Mothas: reinstall :) |
| 00:25.05 | Thetan7 | Toolah is it not 24 |
| 00:25.09 | loq | ls |
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| 00:25.16 | Deosil | dli: what do you mean? I have a intellimouse optical (ps/2) btw. |
| 00:25.18 | dli | Mothas: are you using sarge? |
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| 00:25.51 | dli | Deosi1: 2.6 is different :0 double check "input devices" and "Character devices" |
| 00:25.53 | somiaj | loq: look at /etc/init.d/README (that is where your init scrips are, then man update-rc.d and look into how the different runlvls work) |
| 00:26.07 | loq | k thanks somiaj :) |
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| 00:26.29 | Thetan7 | Toolah it is 32. |
| 00:26.37 | dodgyville | I have compile a 3rd party driver for my debian install but now I get two unresolved symbols. (crc32_le and bitreverse). What can I do? |
| 00:26.49 | Mothas | dli: thanks - am installing. |
| 00:27.34 | Mothas | dli: Don't think so. I'm using 3.0r2 according to the label on the disk. I selected the 2.4df install thinking it would find my hardware better. |
| 00:27.37 | dli | Mothas: I got the same problem before, missing mouse device, and crashing nvidia driver, both due to kernel configuration |
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| 00:28.07 | dli | Mothas: go sarge, if you still got problems. |
| 00:28.19 | Thetan7 | what a name: sarge. |
| 00:28.20 | Mothas | dli: OK - I do have an nvidia card... |
| 00:28.33 | Mothas | dli: How do I "go sarge" sorry - I am new. |
| 00:28.45 | Thetan7 | why should he as new go sarge? |
| 00:28.45 | Deosil | dli: bus mouse support in "character devices" -> "Mice" is a <M> |
| 00:29.08 | Thetan7 | by the way I am on woody, everything else is too unstable. |
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| 00:29.13 | dli | Mothas: go to debian page, getting debian :) |
| 00:29.15 | Thetan7 | and still running 2.6 kernel |
| 00:29.20 | Thetan7 | with backports |
| 00:29.34 | Thetan7 | and java the latest, mozilla the latest, etc. |
| 00:29.36 | Mothas | dli: Note: I am on dialup. 40 hours per CD download time. |
| 00:29.41 | Thetan7 | gnome2 included, ROX which rocks. |
| 00:29.50 | dli | Deosi1: make sure you have all needed modules. and in input devices too |
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| 00:30.00 | Jondab | hi all |
| 00:30.07 | dli | Mothas: buy one then |
| 00:30.25 | Thetan7 | anyone uses ROX? |
| 00:30.34 | Toolah | Thetan7, ok thanks, but isn't that the same as 255.255.255.255? I was told that 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0 = 192.168/24 - where can I learn about this stuff?? |
| 00:30.43 | Thetan7 | Toolah that is te same. |
| 00:30.48 | Deosil | dli: I'm in input devices now... mousedev was a module but I just made it <Y> |
| 00:30.54 | Thetan7 | probably in networking howto |
| 00:30.59 | Deosil | dli: still checking. |
| 00:31.22 | Seb | Toolah: ask google for CIDR notation |
| 00:31.34 | Mothas | dli: Am I out of luck with stable then? |
| 00:31.52 | Thetan7 | Mothas stable is stable, why out of luck. It works. |
| 00:31.53 | dli | Deosi1: something like even interface in? |
| 00:32.02 | Toolah | Seb, Thanks |
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| 00:32.06 | dli | Mothas: possible, the kernel is too old |
| 00:32.30 | Mothas | dli: Should I not specify 2.4 then? 3.0r2 disk gives me that option. |
| 00:32.32 | dli | Deosi1: sorry, Event interface |
| 00:32.33 | Thetan7 | Mothas I have nvidia as well. It simply works. |
| 00:32.51 | dli | Mothas: 2.4 should be better than 2.2 |
| 00:33.02 | Deosil | dli: event interface is a module |
| 00:33.12 | kinky | thetan7 i'm sorry, it didn't work :( |
| 00:33.15 | Mothas | dli: OK - am re-installing now. Be back in a few. |
| 00:33.46 | Thetan7 | Mothas install the first kernel as you like. if you want some of latest kernel. you can put this one in your /etc/apt/sources.list: http://perlbroker.to-art.com/sources.list |
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| 00:34.00 | Thetan7 | Mothas there you get nvidia kernel working simply without anything else. |
| 00:34.04 | dli | Deosi1: yeah, try again :) |
| 00:34.23 | kzar | what do i need to get usb working? ive installed hotplug, anything else? |
| 00:34.29 | Deosil | dli: it was already a module... should I make it static? |
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| 00:35.00 | dli | Thetan7: nvidia-kernel-source works beautifully in Unstable |
| 00:35.14 | dli | Deosi1: compiles it in. :) |
| 00:35.35 | Thetan7 | dli I believe it works beautifully. in unstable. Why do you suggest unstable to new user? |
| 00:35.45 | Thetan7 | Mothas the link works now. |
| 00:36.01 | cafuego | Actually, it won't work on kernel 2.6.5+ |
| 00:36.01 | Deosil | dli: where do I find apic? |
| 00:36.23 | Thetan7 | cafuego but it still works on 2.6.4 which is at http://www.backports.org |
| 00:36.24 | dli | Deosil: processor |
| 00:36.41 | Thetan7 | and there is compiled kernel for every CPU with nvidia inside and ready. |
| 00:36.53 | obake | cafuego: why? |
| 00:36.56 | dli | Thetan7: nonofficial debs are worse than unstable :( |
| 00:36.57 | Thetan7 | and it works fine. all modules work fine. |
| 00:37.08 | Thetan7 | dli I find opposite. |
| 00:37.11 | g4lt | Thetan7 even sparc32? |
| 00:37.13 | cafuego | obake: api change, doesn't compile |
| 00:37.26 | obake | no no, wait, what are you guys talking about |
| 00:37.32 | Thetan7 | dli and I really WORK on this computer. This is important matter to have everything working. |
| 00:37.46 | Thetan7 | g4lt I do not know that. look there. |
| 00:37.49 | obake | ahh, i thought the nvidia kernel source won't compile in kernel 2.6.5 |
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| 00:38.04 | cafuego | obake: Correct, unless you patch it. |
| 00:38.13 | g4lt | Thetan7 I'd hope not, since there isn't a sparc32 that can accept an nvidia card... |
| 00:38.15 | obake | cafuego: patch? |
| 00:38.19 | Mothas | Guys thanks for the help - I'll have to continue this later. A 3year old, a 6-year old, a 2 lb jar of peanut butter and a large furry dog... Bye |
| 00:38.21 | dli | obake: why? I'm using nvidia-kernel-source and 2.6.5 right now |
| 00:38.22 | cafuego | obake: patch |
| 00:38.34 | obake | me too |
| 00:38.35 | cafuego | obake: unless they updated it already |
| 00:38.44 | obake | maybe |
| 00:38.48 | obake | i got it from kernel.org |
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| 00:38.53 | cafuego | then it it fixed, yes. |
| 00:38.59 | cafuego | s/it/got/ |
| 00:39.00 | dli | cafuego: I don't know about the patch, I just installed a binary driver from NVIDIA |
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| 00:39.06 | Deosil | dli: do I need to disable apic with a nvidia gforce2 mx? |
| 00:39.13 | cafuego | dli: Yucky. |
| 00:39.15 | obake | hmm, so it is |
| 00:39.32 | Deosil | dli: or is it just the big fatty nvidia cards that have trouble with the apic. |
| 00:39.38 | dli | Deosi1: disable it. at least on my computer, it would crash the whole system |
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| 00:40.04 | obake | cafuego: bah, yesterday was the worst day of my life.. the whole day trying to successfully re-install debian :/ |
| 00:40.12 | Douglas | Where's the apt-get sources file? |
| 00:40.17 | cafuego | obake: I can SO top that. |
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| 00:40.27 | Thetan7 | Douglas /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 00:40.37 | Deosil | dli: ok disabled. thanks I'll give these changes a try. Thanks a ton! |
| 00:40.38 | obake | i hate it, definitely |
| 00:40.39 | Douglas | merci |
| 00:40.42 | slordchao | shit |
| 00:40.48 | obake | 4 hours downloading packages |
| 00:40.53 | cafuego | obake: I just got home from hospital, where I got stabbed with sharp stuff yesterday. |
| 00:40.55 | obake | with *businesscard* |
| 00:40.59 | Deosil | ANYONE running copper gigabit on debian? |
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| 00:41.06 | obake | cafuego: omg, how are you now? |
| 00:41.18 | dli | Deosi1: let's see :) |
| 00:41.39 | cafuego | obake: I'm OK... tubes got pulled out an hour ago and am in bed @ home |
| 00:41.46 | Douglas | cafuego: top is a badass program. Sometimes when i'm using a public campus computer, i telnet into my box and just top at a high refresh rate and look busy. Chicks dig that. |
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| 00:42.02 | obake | gosh |
| 00:42.13 | Douglas | then i'll go to / and type find, which is also badass |
| 00:42.18 | obake | why do you want them? |
| 00:42.20 | Toolah | Douglas, get a life ... |
| 00:42.34 | cafuego | obake: Prolly get a good price on e-bay ;-) |
| 00:42.38 | Thetan7 | Douglas I would rather try out their tops. |
| 00:42.42 | obake | haha |
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| 00:42.51 | cafuego | Douglas: My chick can run top on her own debian box if she thinks she needs to |
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| 00:43.14 | Douglas | Got one Toolah! And once i got my Fing mouse configged properly, i can cue up the .oggs and get them freak dancing |
| 00:43.43 | Douglas | i wouldn't want to date a chick who knows how to config debian properly.. too emasculating |
| 00:44.01 | kzar | oooo buger, my linux instaled mesed up the other day so i redid it today. I just instaled hotplug, it wasnt behaving so i rebooted and now im geting a seg-fault again NOOOO |
| 00:44.30 | kzar | wat now lol |
| 00:44.37 | Deosil | ANYONE when I run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and change my setup... why doesn't it update the XF86Config-4 file?? |
| 00:44.53 | cafuego | Deosil: See te comments in the config file. |
| 00:44.59 | bofh80 | Deosil: your not alone |
| 00:45.03 | ygnome | Deosil: because you edited it manually? |
| 00:45.06 | Douglas | does /dev/input/mice tend to be accurate on its own? |
| 00:45.22 | Deosil | ygnome: will that cause it not to update it? |
| 00:45.32 | ygnome | Deosil: you bet :) |
| 00:45.41 | cafuego | Deosil: Yes, as the comments in XF86Config-4 explain... |
| 00:45.43 | Deosil | Thanks! I'll go RTFM |
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| 00:45.45 | obake | is ftp.us.debian.org always up2date with ftp.debian.org ? |
| 00:45.59 | cafuego | obake: No, up2date is www.redhat.com |
| 00:46.07 | obake | d'oh |
| 00:46.10 | bofh80 | Deosil: i ran xf86config, that will do it if you know the settings |
| 00:46.12 | nvz | Douglas: thats the most tacky, sexually discriminatory thing I ever heard |
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| 00:46.21 | nvz | you should be ashamed |
| 00:46.29 | Thetan7 | right |
| 00:46.43 | dli | bofh30: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 00:46.45 | Thetan7 | nvz so you can setup debian and you are female? |
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| 00:47.04 | obake | i mean, how much time it takes to be in ftp.us, after being in ftp.d.o ? |
| 00:47.08 | nvz | Thetan7: nope not female but apperently I am a feminist |
| 00:47.10 | kzar | so now my pc wont boot, what on earth do i do? |
| 00:47.10 | Douglas | nvz: had you heard it in person you'd realize i was kidding. Easy. |
| 00:47.23 | bofh80 | nvz: you on speed or cocaine? |
| 00:47.27 | ygnome | kzar: go outside and play... |
| 00:47.29 | Thetan7 | nvz: do not belive that sexist. |
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| 00:47.43 | kzar | ygnome: at 2am lol |
| 00:47.46 | Douglas | Thetan, some of my best friends are nonsexist! |
| 00:47.59 | soth` | anyone know any good sites explaining the various popular software licenses? |
| 00:48.00 | Thetan7 | Douglas: had you heard it in person you'd realize i was kidding. |
| 00:48.13 | nvz | bofh80: feminism isnt that bad, keep in mind that extremists come in all shapes and sizes, and they arent only feminists |
| 00:48.25 | cafuego | nvz: PUSSYWHIPPED ;-) |
| 00:48.29 | Unbeliever_ | blaahaha |
| 00:48.31 | Douglas | Thetan7: ... shit i'd post something if my GODDAMN mouse were working |
| 00:48.35 | bofh80 | nvz: you didn't asnswer the question |
| 00:48.36 | Thetan7 | nvz we found out you are female now. |
| 00:48.43 | nvz | bofh80: neither |
| 00:48.51 | LinuxIsCool | i dunno why |
| 00:48.53 | Thetan7 | Douglas: why do you give drugs to mices? |
| 00:48.56 | LinuxIsCool | but i got banned on Efnet |
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| 00:48.56 | bofh80 | nvz: got yer missus breathing down yer neck? |
| 00:49.02 | nvz | Thetan7: yeah I am a female.. trapped in a mans body |
| 00:49.10 | Thetan7 | nvz: see you in the next life. |
| 00:49.13 | LinuxIsCool | they said hacked was the reason i got banned |
| 00:49.14 | cafuego | LinuxIsCool: EFNet is no great loss |
| 00:49.16 | Thetan7 | but change the body please. |
| 00:49.18 | Thetan7 | har har har har |
| 00:49.18 | rj | anyone in here using file-rc, i need a big favor, after installing file-rc it only boots to single user mode, and my debian system is on a loopback file so the only way to fix this was to mount the loopback debian system inside of another linux system and edit the /etc/runlevel.conf, but im unable to chroot because it keeps segfaulting, so i can't run /usr/share/file-rc/rclink2file.sh so can sonmeone please paste me/send me there /etc/runlevel.conf. |
| 00:49.19 | LinuxIsCool | lol |
| 00:49.20 | nvz | Thetan7: heh |
| 00:49.20 | LinuxIsCool | ok |
| 00:49.21 | LinuxIsCool | whatever |
| 00:49.23 | LinuxIsCool | see y |
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| 00:49.24 | LinuxIsCool | a |
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| 00:49.30 | Douglas | Thetan7: to figure out the therapeutic indices of the drugs |
| 00:49.39 | deadcat | damn i hosed my debian desktop lastnight. )= now i have to bring the machine to a friend's place to reinstall. (=.. i had to type "Yes, do as I say!" but still wont fix. |
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| 00:49.49 | nvz | bofh80: I dont have a missus. I left them all behind. |
| 00:50.13 | bofh80 | nvz: fell in love with yer right hand? |
| 00:50.19 | rj | worst mistake i could of made :( |
| 00:50.42 | lordc | left duh |
| 00:50.50 | rj | i know someone in here has to be using file-rc! |
| 00:50.57 | Deosil | ok... two problems with 1 definate fix and another possible fix... thanks guys |
| 00:50.59 | nvz | tried to move away and get my life straightened out, forsaking all my relations, and a year later now, I am worse off than I was before |
| 00:51.01 | Deosil | and uh galls |
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| 00:51.16 | larrikin | is there any easy way to disable the gpg key checking in apt or do I have to start importing keys.. ? |
| 00:51.19 | nvz | so basically a ran away and failed to make a comeback thus far |
| 00:51.33 | lordc | nice work |
| 00:51.49 | [TACO] | Having problems with X, it won't load after I upgraded to unstable. it says it cannot find /user/.xsession |
| 00:52.02 | Deosil | ANYONE running SATA Raid or GIGABIT Copper network addapters on debian? |
| 00:52.02 | lordc | don't run unstable unless you have a clue |
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| 00:52.31 | [TACO] | lordc: thanks for the input, I'll write that down and file it |
| 00:52.33 | lordc | what kind of SATA raid card? |
| 00:52.36 | Thetan7 | yeah, what is this thing with new people running unstable. |
| 00:52.42 | lordc | [TACO], sure |
| 00:52.44 | larrikin | I don't even get a useles answer.. hmmphf |
| 00:52.51 | nvz | [TACO]: date it for yesturday |
| 00:52.58 | ygnome | nvz: that's what #debian does to you... |
| 00:52.58 | lordc | or last week for that matter |
| 00:53.05 | Deosil | lordc: highpoint rocketraid 1540. I think the hpt3?? is what it detects as. |
| 00:53.08 | kzar | sooo now that i instaled hotplug my pc wont boot, how can i fix it? |
| 00:53.23 | lordc | Deosil, sorry nope |
| 00:53.35 | lordc | kzar, use the window |
| 00:54.01 | kzar | there has gota be some way to fix stuff if a pc wont boot |
| 00:54.01 | nvz | ygnome: na, cant blame it on #debian everyone here has no life for their own reasons, we are just all here because we share the common disinterest in a normal life |
| 00:54.15 | lordc | use your rescue disk and boot with |
| 00:54.20 | lordc | rescue root=/dev/hda1 |
| 00:54.25 | lordc | where /dev/hda1 is your root partition |
| 00:55.06 | lordc | nvz, speak for yourself. I'm just bored |
| 00:55.06 | DrPete | can you monitor sftp? |
| 00:55.06 | lordc | heh |
| 00:55.15 | lordc | DrPete what kind of monitoring |
| 00:55.18 | rj | file-rc is the devil. |
| 00:55.19 | nvz | lordc: same thing |
| 00:55.29 | lordc | nvz. true |
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| 00:55.45 | Thetan7 | DrPete w and ps should give you clue what users are doing. |
| 00:55.50 | g4lt | DrPete not unless you MITM hte session key |
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| 00:56.08 | DrPete | hmm, ok ta |
| 00:56.17 | soccos | do PC vendors have to unbundle Windows if you don't want it? |
| 00:56.22 | DrPete | I was just thinking of who is connect etc |
| 00:56.25 | lordc | no |
| 00:56.32 | DrPete | MITM? |
| 00:56.39 | lordc | just make sure you boot the first time with a linux cd, so you don't accept the windows EULA |
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| 00:56.41 | kzar | ok im going to bed now that ive trashed everything |
| 00:56.42 | kzar | :( |
| 00:56.48 | nvz | soccos: nope, I heard some of them are nice enough to do so after extensive lawsuits |
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| 00:56.55 | g4lt | soccos no, htey do't "have" to, but if you make it plain that you won't buy it with Win on, they'll lose it or the sale |
| 00:56.56 | Thetan7 | DrPete the commands are w or who or last for last users |
| 00:57.12 | g4lt | DrPete Man-In-The-Missle |
| 00:57.13 | pfizur | Dell well do it for you if you order over the tele |
| 00:57.16 | Thetan7 | kzar never go to bed after bad. |
| 00:57.24 | g4lt | s/Missle/Middle/ |
| 00:57.29 | pfizur | or at least they do it for me |
| 00:57.31 | soccos | pfizur: thx, this will probably be a dell |
| 00:57.50 | Toolah | I am still having probs getting my head around CIDR - what line should I add in my hosts.allow to allow all class c addresses? |
| 00:57.52 | lordc | ibm or dell is the only way to go right now |
| 00:57.53 | pfizur | side note, they might do it for me because i redirect large sums of my employers money at them :) |
| 00:57.54 | nvz | g4lt: my thoughts on that are that if they bundle it with Win these days, you dont want it anyhow, its probably all fake hardware |
| 00:57.55 | DrPete | Yeah, I tred w but its not showing any connections, thats why i thought i was going mad |
| 00:58.03 | soccos | pfizur: do you get the same pricing as off the web? |
| 00:58.06 | rj | how do i remove file-rc and convert back to the normal debian sysv? |
| 00:58.24 | pfizur | I perfer calling, you cant always get waht you want customizing on the website. |
| 00:58.30 | Douglas | Thetan7: I got mdetect to tell me which /dev and what type my mouse is, but intellimouse is not on the list of options in the config .. should i try putting it in the XConf file anyway? |
| 00:58.41 | pfizur | And they tend to take off their "exclusive web discounts" regardless of how you order |
| 00:58.49 | Thetan7 | Douglas I have no clue and never use that. |
| 00:58.51 | DrPete | g4lt: man in missle i like that |
| 00:58.57 | Thetan7 | Douglas I just knew it is there. |
| 00:59.02 | Douglas | cool |
| 00:59.13 | soccos | pfizur: maybe that's why they're "exclusive" :-) |
| 00:59.24 | nvz | g4lt: AC97 integrated audio, HSF modem, integrated RTL 8139.. etc some AGP bridge thats buggy as all hell.. |
| 00:59.25 | pfizur | :) |
| 00:59.36 | Thetan7 | Toolah I would add in hosts.allow : ALL: LOCAL @some_netgroup as it says inside |
| 00:59.43 | soccos | pfizur: what was the last Dell laptop you bought |
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| 01:00.19 | g4lt | nvz ? |
| 01:00.22 | Toolah | Thetan7, huh?? I don't have NIS set up if thats what you mean |
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| 01:00.37 | Thetan7 | Toolah ALL: .foobar.edu EXCEPT terminalserver.foobar.edu |
| 01:00.40 | Deosil | dli: Thetan7: THanks all... off to test. |
| 01:00.56 | pfizur | Inspiron 8600 for a prof |
| 01:00.58 | pfizur | he seems to like it |
| 01:01.11 | soccos | does it run debian? |
| 01:01.17 | nvz | g4lt: apperently you read my one message and not the previous one |
| 01:01.28 | Narkerbyt | somiaj are you there? |
| 01:01.42 | [TACO] | <sarcasm> thanks guys for being so helpful </sarcasm> |
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| 01:01.52 | pfizur | It can, he runs XP |
| 01:02.03 | pfizur | I run Debian on a Precision |
| 01:02.10 | Thetan7 | Toolah you have domains defined, yo I would simply add a domain in that way. |
| 01:02.12 | nvz | [TACO]: thank you for being so helpful as well |
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| 01:02.24 | [TACO] | nvz: how can I be when no one asked me anything |
| 01:02.27 | oliver_ | dpkg usbmouse |
| 01:02.27 | dpkg | To use a USB mouse, do the following: [1] get a kernel with USB, USB mouse and input/HID support; standard Debian kernels have all this. [2] cd /dev && MAKEDEV usb && MAKEDEV input [3] apt-get install usbmgr or hotplug (or if that fails, modprobe hid and mousedev by hand); it should beep at you when USB devices are (un)plugged. [5] use device /dev/input/mice, protocol exps2 for gpm, protocol ExplorerPS/2 for X |
| 01:02.28 | soccos | pfizur: I was wondering what the driver support was like for the recent laptops |
| 01:02.44 | pfizur | it's not great, but it can be made to work |
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| 01:02.53 | soccos | :( |
| 01:02.53 | g4lt | pfizur PA-RISC in general or a precisionbook specifically? |
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| 01:03.03 | pfizur | use sarge and do things one thing at a time |
| 01:03.09 | [TACO] | nice... ipv6 hostname.. |
| 01:03.30 | nvz | [TACO]: well we make unstable for educated people to contribute by testing and debugging hardware.. if you cant help and also cant even manage running it, you should have stuck to woody so we would have an easier time helping you learn |
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| 01:03.41 | nvz | s/hardware/software/ |
| 01:03.42 | dodgyville | Where do I store my third party modules on debian? /lib/modules/(my kern ver)/kernel/drivers/net/irda does seem to work for modprobe. |
| 01:03.43 | Toolah | I do have domains definesd? how - where do I do that? whats wrong with IP's - I usually understand ip's, why doesn't 192.168.0/24 work? it should allow all std class c addresses right? |
| 01:03.55 | mechan0r | anyone have any success installing XPI mozilla extensions on either firefox or mozilla |
| 01:04.16 | [TACO] | nvz: while others use it for the simple fact that the other flavors are outdated |
| 01:04.16 | pfizur | Almost exactly this: http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/precn_m60?c=us&cs=04&l=en&s=bsd |
| 01:04.17 | Thetan7 | Toolah is it not: 192.168.0.0/32 |
| 01:04.51 | [TACO] | nvz: I am very sorry that I cannot solve all problems by myself, I shouldn't be using unstable because of it </notcaring> |
| 01:05.00 | nvz | [TACO]: Sid is outdated too, use Fedora or Mandrake or something |
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| 01:05.06 | Toolah | Thetan7, will try that - having a hard time absorbing CIDR |
| 01:05.16 | Thetan7 | http://public.pacbell.net/dedicated/cidr.html |
| 01:05.16 | [TACO] | nvz: I don't like mandrake for one |
| 01:05.24 | [TACO] | and I don't care much for fedora either |
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| 01:05.38 | nvz | [TACO]: we already know sid is broke, thats why we dont particuarly care, you are to first check the BTS for an existing bug, then if one doesnt exist file one |
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| 01:05.56 | anurag | ppl, i am using debian and apt-get install blackbox |
| 01:06.17 | anurag | but somehow remnants of my previous install of mythtv continue to give me dependancy problems..... any idea on how to get around it? |
| 01:06.32 | [TACO] | nvz: now we are getting somewhere, now had you said this earlier, you wouldn't have come off as someone with no life AND someone who has an ego. |
| 01:06.33 | nvz | [TACO]: like I say, we know that woody works, we can easily help people troubleshoot that. sid takes an experienced user to even provide enough info to recieve help |
| 01:06.53 | dodgyville | Where do I store my third party modules on debian? |
| 01:07.03 | [TACO] | nvz: of course it does, its like making an engine, testing it for a few years and then after knowing it works place them in cars |
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| 01:07.07 | Toolah | Thetan7, nope, 192.168.0.0/32 does not allow my laptop, address 192.168.0.197, to connect |
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| 01:07.20 | [TACO] | nvz: the only problem is, its already old by then |
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| 01:07.36 | Toolah | Thetan7, but when I comment out hosts.deny, it works |
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| 01:07.49 | Thetan7 | man hosts_access |
| 01:08.16 | doug_ | I almost had my box perfect. Then i install gpm, and suddenly my mouse spazzes all over the place. I try removing it, but whatever incorrect config it first wrote, it still exists somewhere on my system. How can i completely purge this |
| 01:08.38 | sgeigerbot`` | ~test |
| 01:08.40 | apt | Passed |
| 01:08.48 | Thetan7 | doug_ and again it happens. mouse on drugs. |
| 01:09.09 | nvz | [TACO]: my engine is over 14 years old, and guess what 186,000 miles later it still does the task |
| 01:09.16 | direkt_ | is there a way to stop x from loading on boot, i loaded the nvidia driver and now the system locks as soon as it boots |
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| 01:09.49 | Scheme | How can I restrict a users access to ssh, but allow them to use FTP? |
| 01:10.01 | [TACO] | nvz: I am impressed that your car lasted that long, congrats to you |
| 01:10.04 | nvz | [TACO]: engines are built to last not to get outdated before you buy them, thats just an inherited trait due to the fact that they are still in production |
| 01:10.09 | doug_ | ok Thetan.. time to Great Flood x off my box. How can I get the whole thing and everything it wrote to my HD out of here? apt-get remove xserver-xfree86 and a reinstall makes no difference. I want to get back where I was when i was first installing |
| 01:10.11 | Scheme | /bin/false blocks both SSH and FTP, is there a login that allows FTP and not SSH? |
| 01:10.14 | Thetan7 | direkt_ maybe with boot: linux single |
| 01:10.24 | [TACO] | nvz: but seriously, would you use a 14 year old computer to play farcry |
| 01:10.33 | direkt_ | Thetan7: lilo goes right into linux, do I need a bootdisk? |
| 01:10.36 | sgeigerbot`` | Scheme: Not sure, but I want to say you can give them /bin/false as their shell yet add them to ftp users... |
| 01:10.50 | Thetan7 | direkt_ you press CTRL before booting to get the boot: prompt |
| 01:10.58 | direkt_ | k thanks |
| 01:11.24 | nvz | [TACO]: software is built to work, not to be outdated before you use it, and the only reason its outdated, is because people are still making it. in this case for free, and you'd rather them cater to you than help. |
| 01:11.33 | doobiean | direct_: stop it at boot prompt and type linux single |
| 01:11.43 | Thetan7 | doug_ but I do not know your configuration. and I use only xf86cfg -textmode for configuring, not the dpkg-reconfigure. |
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| 01:11.58 | Scheme | sgeigerbot``: how? |
| 01:12.11 | sgeigerbot`` | Scheme: I don't know. I was just guessing. I never had to do that. |
| 01:12.18 | nvz | [TACO]: to recieve help on IRC you have to provide proper and adiquitte information because we can only go on what you tell us and what we know, and woody we all know well, sid we all just know it breaks alot, and accept that |
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| 01:12.45 | [TACO] | nvz: You assume I don't know its unstable for a reason... |
| 01:12.56 | Thetan7 | nvz: I agree completely. stable is stable. |
| 01:13.04 | [TACO] | nvz: I didn't come here to tell you to fix the problem, I came here to see if their was a fix |
| 01:13.19 | nvz | [TACO]: no I assume that knowing you are using sid and you have a file missing is no concern, touch the file, and it will exist |
| 01:13.20 | [TACO] | nvz: fortunately I got such a warm welcome |
| 01:13.31 | [TACO] | nvz: its not a concern |
| 01:13.33 | Thetan7 | but this is still debian channel, so there are no limits to woody. |
| 01:13.35 | [TACO] | nvz: thats my point |
| 01:14.02 | [TACO] | nvz: I didn't come here to complain about the problem, especially since I chose to use sid |
| 01:14.13 | [TACO] | nvz: I actually came here to see if there was a fix, and yes, in this case their was |
| 01:14.15 | Scheme | Can I log all ssh connections? |
| 01:14.20 | nvz | [TACO]: if its a file missing, create it. |
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| 01:14.35 | [TACO] | nvz: I did, it so happened to be packaged |
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| 01:14.54 | doobiean | [TACO]: sid is a moving target - and might take a trial and error approach |
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| 01:15.09 | [TACO] | doobiean: thanks... |
| 01:15.18 | Thetan7 | Scheme you mean logins? they are logged in /var/log/wtmp |
| 01:15.19 | direkt_ | Thetan7: im in single mode, how would I stop X starting on bootup? |
| 01:15.39 | Thetan7 | direkt_ did you get any prompt on console? |
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| 01:15.46 | [TACO] | doobiean: could I just point out that that analogy related to something we cleared up a bit ago... Sorry if thats insulting :/ |
| 01:15.59 | direkt_ | Thetan7: yes im logged in as root atm |
| 01:16.03 | Gnabbe | is there any way to execute a bash function whenever i change to another dir? in zsh there is a function you can define that is called chpwd() which is then called every time you change your working directory |
| 01:16.10 | Thetan7 | direkt_ you probably have xdm. to stop it runnin on bootup, probably change runlevel in /etc/inittab to 2 if it is 5 inside. |
| 01:16.21 | nvz | [TACO]: well what I am saying is that you have to provide info to get help, you were whining because you generalized an error and expected us to guess as to what could be wrong, try be more specific and helpful in informing us of issues especially when you are using sid, as there are already unknowns.. for example 700 of us could all be using sid, and not have even one package with the same version number or bugs in it |
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| 01:16.25 | doug_ | Thetan7: you think maybe a kernel up/downgrade might work? |
| 01:16.28 | Thetan7 | direkt_ but check in /etc/rc2.d that xdm has K in front. |