| 00:00.06 | dan2 | cafuego: probably |
| 00:00.12 | dan2 | cafuego: thank nick piggins on that one |
| 00:00.22 | bloodw | dan2 why do you need so much ram |
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| 00:00.40 | cafuego | my Celeron500 laptop can compile a 2.6 kernel in 2 minutes now. |
| 00:00.43 | dan2 | bloodw: for speed, I load the os into memory on boot |
| 00:00.46 | jbr | sgeigerbot: it lets you --concatenate and --create? |
| 00:00.51 | bloodw | dan2 oh cool |
| 00:00.59 | bloodw | dan2 i want to see that in action some day :/ |
| 00:01.00 | dan2 | bloodw: softupdates to disk frequently |
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| 00:01.10 | sgeigerbot | jbr: -A is the equivalent of --concatenate, as far as I can tell. |
| 00:01.11 | DA_ | dan2: what kind of ram are you using? |
| 00:01.23 | obake | bloodw: he has 20 monitors, with 4 mplayers on each monitor, playing pr0n. Hm, yeah, he needs some RAM.. |
| 00:01.23 | dan2 | DA_: DDR Register ECC |
| 00:01.26 | sgeigerbot | jbr: !!! ah...that's it. I need to remove the "c" |
| 00:01.43 | DA_ | dan2: 12 gigs... that would be nice |
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| 00:02.05 | jbr | sgeigerbot: confusing damn tar -c/tar c/tar --create stuff |
| 00:02.05 | cafuego | DV editing is much nicer if you don't need disk i/o for an hour of uncompessed video. |
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| 00:02.06 | bahamat | does anybody happen to know how to remove a message from the mail queue with postfix? |
| 00:02.09 | david__ | Hi guys... do you get any output when you do a aptitude ~Astable~n^fontconfig$ ? |
| 00:02.19 | dan2 | bahamat: cafuego |
| 00:02.22 | sgeigerbot | jbr: I'm still confused. |
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| 00:02.33 | cafuego | dan2: bahamat |
| 00:02.38 | bahamat | dan2: cafuego does? |
| 00:02.46 | dan2 | bahamat: he is the postfix guru |
| 00:02.46 | cafuego | bahamat: I use 'rm' generally. |
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| 00:03.01 | bloodw | dan2 so how long does it take to boot approx? |
| 00:03.07 | dan2 | bloodw: varies |
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| 00:03.13 | bloodw | under 15 seconds? |
| 00:03.14 | jbr | sgeigerbot: read info tar for a few days |
| 00:03.19 | bahamat | cafuego: that's it? there isn't an equiv to `exim -Mrm <mid>`? |
| 00:03.19 | dan2 | bloodw: it takes a while to load disk to ram |
| 00:03.23 | sgeigerbot | jbr: good ideer |
| 00:03.33 | bloodw | dan2 ahh it does that all the time at boot up? |
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| 00:04.18 | cafuego | bahamat: I have no idea about exim, let alone exim equivalents |
| 00:04.21 | mickeyks | on what basis do i decide whether to prelink the openoffice.org binaries? |
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| 00:04.30 | dan2 | bloodw: yeah |
| 00:04.43 | Segers_J | I am working on installing wordnet 2.0 from the upstream source (can't backport the one in sid b/c they use tcl 8.4) it gives me the error "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ltk" what file is it looking for? or, how do I figure out what file it is looking for? |
| 00:04.47 | dan2 | bahamat: exim is better |
| 00:04.51 | dan2 | !start an mta war |
| 00:04.51 | dpkg | smail has an evil license |
| 00:04.57 | dli | anyone knows the intel 865 video from Dell ? I can't do more than 256 colors. |
| 00:04.58 | Anthro | Can anyone point me to a nice, simple package that depends on Qt and little else? |
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| 00:05.00 | dan2 | !start an mta war |
| 00:05.00 | dpkg | courier has an evil license |
| 00:05.03 | dan2 | lol |
| 00:05.07 | bahamat | cafuego: `exim -Mrm <message_id>` removes the specified message from the delivery spool |
| 00:05.07 | dan2 | where is qmail |
| 00:05.15 | david__ | Is my syntax correct for aptitude ~Astable~n^fontconfig$ to do a search for fontconfig package in stable? |
| 00:05.23 | sgeigerbot | jbr: Is a few days up? |
| 00:05.26 | dan2 | bahamat: all of exim's mailqueue features are inexistant in postfix |
| 00:05.28 | brianap | what is a troll, in the guidelines? |
| 00:05.42 | DA_ | Anthro: err... im compiling qtella, had to install about every qt package there is and still point it to the includes |
| 00:05.58 | bahamat | dan2: right, but I figured there was a way to say "postfix, please delete this message" |
| 00:06.08 | dan2 | bahamat: why did you convert? |
| 00:06.10 | Anthro | DA_: Not quite what I'm after. |
| 00:06.10 | Segers_J | brianap: people looking to start a verbal war for no useful reason. |
| 00:06.21 | jbr | sgeigerbot: if you've done it enough for a few days... |
| 00:06.23 | DA_ | Anthro: oh you just said something that needs qt |
| 00:06.23 | brianap | oh ok |
| 00:06.31 | brianap | thx Segers_J |
| 00:06.40 | bahamat | dan2: I didn't, I sat down at a box with an overloaded mailspool |
| 00:06.42 | Segers_J | :) |
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| 00:07.09 | The_Faulkenator | Will someone please look at my XFree86 log and help me fix this? |
| 00:07.18 | The_Faulkenator | I don't see anything wrong with it |
| 00:07.37 | sgeigerbot | jbr: okay...finally got it. |
| 00:07.43 | Anthro | DA_: What I want is a Debian package that depends on Qt and little else. In particular, I want to be able to apt-get source the package ad be confident that dpkg-buildpackage will Just Work on it. |
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| 00:08.18 | DA_ | Anthro: ah ok dont really know then |
| 00:08.20 | Segers_J | The_Faulkenator: You are asking too general a question, what is "this"? |
| 00:08.33 | jbr | sgeigerbot: did you spot -w? good for debugging |
| 00:08.46 | davisfactor | what packages do i need to install to get X |
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| 00:09.13 | mickeyks | does it ever make a big difference whether or not you prelink the openoffice.org binaries? |
| 00:09.18 | The_Faulkenator | I can't get X to start because it says no screens found, and that is the only error message in the log. I have been trying to configure it for over an hour and no success |
| 00:09.20 | cafuego | bahamat: postqueue - with some options. |
| 00:09.34 | bahamat | cafuego: would you happen to know which? |
| 00:09.38 | sgeigerbot | jbr: nice. |
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| 00:09.48 | cafuego | bahamat: Nah, never had to use it. |
| 00:09.56 | DA_ | The_Faulkenator: theres usually a reason no screens could be found, check above that message for anything else that might be useful |
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| 00:10.07 | LoonaTick | can you tell me how to start less /sbin/getty processes? |
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| 00:10.33 | Anthro | Is there any way o search for packages based on what they depend upon? |
| 00:10.40 | Segers_J | anybody remember the factoid for no screens found? The_Faulkenator needs it. |
| 00:11.10 | cafuego | !listvals no screens found |
| 00:11.11 | jbr | LoonaTick: edit /etc/inittab and telinit q |
| 00:11.11 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'no screens found' by value (4 shown): be noob barbie ;; annoy bob2 ;; annoy bob2 #DEL# ;; cmd: annoy (.*?) #DEL#. |
| 00:11.12 | sgeigerbot | ~+screen not found |
| 00:11.14 | apt | you probably gave wrong monitor freqs or a wrong video card driver, or perhaps you should try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86? |
| 00:11.14 | The_Faulkenator | dude, the only (EE) is no devices detected |
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| 00:11.31 | sgeigerbot | !noscreensfound |
| 00:11.31 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, noscreensfound is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and SAY NO to the framebuffer question If that doesn't work, read /var/log/XFree86.* and see what's wrong. No, really. READ it. I mean it. Really read it. |
| 00:11.33 | LoonaTick | jbr: thnx |
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| 00:11.53 | brianap | I am considering forming a very small dialup ISP, using all used/borrowed hardware for some friends in my area, I have a fair knowledge of linux and I have setup a small ISP before but the only part I didnt work with was the part where the voice T ties into my data line which for right now will be a dsl line... |
| 00:11.54 | cafuego | The_Faulkenator: 'No devices detected' means X can't find your gfx card. Did you check that it's supported at all? |
| 00:12.25 | Segers_J | ahhaha |
| 00:12.31 | brianap | does anyone how I tie this together? is it a modem bank I purchase? can I buy 3-5 external 56k modems and tie them in? |
| 00:12.34 | cafuego | !what does mentor pay you for? |
| 00:12.35 | dpkg | sometimes mentor insists on a good kick in the kidneys, cafuego, but I've really had enough... |
| 00:12.35 | The_Faulkenator | It should be, I've ran 6 other distros on this machine. It's a S3 ProSavage DDR. I used the savage driver. |
| 00:13.02 | cafuego | The_Faulkenator: "should" is not a satisfactory reply. |
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| 00:13.05 | brianap | if so, how do I do so? can I use a PC and go through this tutorial http://www.projektfarm.com/en/support/debian_setup/ ?? |
| 00:13.16 | mentor | They have sussuido vending machines in the restroom? |
| 00:13.21 | cafuego | sgeigerbot: Make sure you don't sussudio caught in your zipper |
| 00:13.22 | brianap | to use debian as my main machine running dns http and etc |
| 00:13.56 | The_Faulkenator | How do I tell if it is supported? |
| 00:13.57 | Anthro | DA_: qtparted seems to be what I want. |
| 00:14.00 | The_Faulkenator | the video card that is |
| 00:14.01 | brianap | I am a linux nut and really wanna learn more and more... just kinda fuzzy on this detail on how I get it tied in together.... |
| 00:14.09 | DA_ | Anthro: cool, good luck |
| 00:14.12 | sgeigerbot | cafuego: btw, Windows isn't a good filesystem integrity checker... |
| 00:14.26 | cafuego | The_Faulkenator: Go to xfree.org and check the hardware list for the version of X you have. |
| 00:14.27 | bahamat | cafuego: postsuper -d ALL deferred |
| 00:14.39 | sgeigerbot | brianap: download knoppix |
| 00:14.39 | cafuego | bahamat: there ya go. |
| 00:14.47 | T_VoiD | brianap: "the voice T ties into my data line" I bet that's some specialist language, hope somebody in the channel gets it (of course I don't know about that stuff hehe) |
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| 00:15.01 | goog | anyone using the gnome 2.6 experimental package? |
| 00:15.16 | brianap | sgeigerbot: why? |
| 00:15.20 | sgeigerbot | g4lt: ah, thanks for the tip on the non-freeness of tripwire. I didn't notice. |
| 00:15.30 | sgeigerbot | brianap: sounds right for you |
| 00:15.31 | brianap | T_VoiD: ok... |
| 00:15.38 | sgeigerbot | brianap: if you don't know about it, you should. |
| 00:15.44 | bahamat | cafuego: 41764 messages deleted |
| 00:15.44 | mentor | sgeigerbot: Use ACNS instead |
| 00:15.45 | brianap | to make a small isp? |
| 00:15.55 | bahamat | and there's still over 12k in the queue |
| 00:16.00 | brianap | i know about knoppix... knoppix is a bootable distro... |
| 00:16.03 | cafuego | bahamat: Sheesh! What have you been doing? |
| 00:16.09 | sgeigerbot | ~+ACNS |
| 00:16.20 | sgeigerbot | mentor: what's that? |
| 00:16.22 | bahamat | cafuego: it's spam bounces |
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| 00:16.28 | mentor | sgeigerbot: Automatic Copyright Notification System. |
| 00:16.29 | cafuego | bahamat: Tssk. |
| 00:16.31 | brianap | not saying I know all about knoppix, but I do know some... |
| 00:16.37 | sgeigerbot | mentor: ...okay, what's that? |
| 00:16.39 | cafuego | bahamat: Don't they time out? |
| 00:16.42 | bahamat | cafuego: I got hired at this place three weeks ago |
| 00:16.58 | The_Faulkenator | ahhh!!! my XFree is outdated (it is 4.1.0). How do i update? |
| 00:17.01 | bahamat | cafuego: I assume so, I haven't had the time to even look into most things |
| 00:17.04 | mentor | sgeigerbot: As seen on /. |
| 00:17.17 | obake | The_Faulkenator: why upgrade? |
| 00:17.17 | mentor | ~tell The_Faulkenator about releases |
| 00:17.25 | bahamat | cafuego: my todo list consists of "1) rebuild all servers from scratch. 2) go home" |
| 00:17.27 | mentor | ~tell The_Faulkenator about pkgmgmt |
| 00:17.29 | cafuego | obake: "S3 video card" |
| 00:17.30 | mentor | ~tell The_Faulkenator about dug |
| 00:17.51 | sgeigerbot | cafuego: fear not. I'm based on Windows NT(tm) |
| 00:17.52 | obake | cafuego: what's with S3 video cards and x 4.1 |
| 00:17.53 | mentor | apt no dug is <reply> see debian users' guide |
| 00:17.54 | apt | mentor: okay |
| 00:17.59 | gb | bahamat: your todo list is upside down |
| 00:18.27 | mickeyks | what do linux people use to play .mov files? |
| 00:18.28 | cafuego | obake: Not really supported, I suppsoe S3 were being difficult when Xfree wanted info. |
| 00:18.29 | sgeigerbot | mentor: URLs are welcome. |
| 00:18.42 | obake | hmm |
| 00:18.47 | sodre | Could anyone help me configure a Wireless Card? I'm a bit confused about HostAP/wlan-ng and 2.6 kernels. |
| 00:18.49 | cafuego | obake: Maybe the XF 3.3.x drivers were a massive unportable kludge. |
| 00:18.58 | bahamat | gb: haha |
| 00:19.01 | obake | yeah, very probally |
| 00:19.16 | mentor | sgeigerbot: "A man of my standing really shouldn't know about this." [http://www.tubgirl.com/] |
| 00:19.29 | bahamat | gb: it's because we're releasing a new product tomorrow, and I need to babysit some servers |
| 00:19.52 | Ra1stlin_ | good night |
| 00:19.54 | gb | bahamat: excuses excuses |
| 00:20.01 | sgeigerbot | mentor: just the thing when you need to wash out your mouth w/soap and water: http://www.engrish.com/detail.php?imagename=soap.jpg&category=Toiletries&date=2003-07-23 |
| 00:20.03 | mentor | cafuego: sorry. |
| 00:20.07 | bahamat | so everything on my todo list has been pushed back until next week, or next month, or something like that |
| 00:20.18 | sgeigerbot | hahamat: haha |
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| 00:20.22 | cafuego | mentor: I am extremely itchy. |
| 00:20.31 | gb | you're not going home for a month? poor thing |
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| 00:20.40 | LandSlide | what package has mod_php4.c in it? |
| 00:20.41 | mentor | sgeigerbot: http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/04/20/1448232&mode=thread&tid=126&tid=95 |
| 00:20.42 | cafuego | mentor: I have no standing, saw tubgirl aaaaaaaaaaaaaaages ago. |
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| 00:20.53 | cafuego | LandSlide: apt-cache search php4 |
| 00:20.56 | jbr | LandSlide: http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages#search_contents |
| 00:20.59 | mentor | ~itch cafuego |
| 00:21.08 | sgeigerbot | cafuego: hell...tubgirl is one of my factoids from AGES ago |
| 00:21.13 | cafuego | mentor: No! No scratching! |
| 00:21.20 | g4lt | cafuego yeah, but have you seen lemonparty? |
| 00:21.22 | LandSlide | ta! |
| 00:21.26 | gb | scratch scratch scratch |
| 00:21.35 | gb | scratch to the music |
| 00:21.39 | cafuego | g4lt: Nope, and I doubt i will. |
| 00:21.53 | LandSlide | can't find it. |
| 00:21.54 | helix | mentor is alive! |
| 00:22.03 | agentbob | how do you reinstall packages and make sure their files are clean? (ie get fresh versions of su/passwd/login/etc) |
| 00:22.08 | bahamat | well, it's time to go home :-) |
| 00:22.09 | cafuego | LandSlide: libapache-modphp4 or somesuch |
| 00:22.10 | gb | helix: no thats just a vicious rumour |
| 00:22.10 | bahamat | bye all |
| 00:22.16 | helix | oh ok |
| 00:22.24 | cafuego | LandSlide: (it's he compiled version, which is more useful than a single source file) |
| 00:22.34 | agentbob | or even.. can dpkg verify a package is installed with correct crcs? |
| 00:23.07 | LandSlide | it's only in apache2 at the moment... should I upgrade to apache2? |
| 00:23.35 | mentor | The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated. |
| 00:23.38 | cafuego | LandSlide: No, apache2 and mod_php4 don't work. |
| 00:23.43 | mentor | helix is alive!? |
| 00:23.45 | sgeigerbot | mentor: please send me on goose chases only if they lead to something useful. |
| 00:23.46 | cafuego | !camel helix |
| 00:23.54 | helix | hahaha |
| 00:23.57 | helix | yaaaaaaaay, camels! |
| 00:23.58 | g4lt | mentor nobody ever said you were DEAD, we said you had NO LIFE... |
| 00:23.58 | sgeigerbot | mentor: Like for instance, a goose! |
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| 00:24.07 | LandSlide | hmmm, so if there is no lib-apache-modphp4.. how do I get it working? |
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| 00:24.22 | cafuego | LandSlide: apt-cache search php4 - choose the rght one. |
| 00:24.22 | mentor | sgeigerbot: Sorry, I was sure I put a 'joke' disclaimer in there somewhere. |
| 00:24.33 | gb | helix: no disassemble |
| 00:24.34 | mentor | sgeigerbot: Maybe I assumed it was implicit in the /. reference. |
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| 00:25.13 | agentbob | is there anyway to reinstall the login pkg? |
| 00:25.23 | cafuego | agentbob: pt-get install --reinstall login |
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| 00:25.28 | mrzippy | hi. if i would want to install microsoft fonts under pango server... is it the same that before with defoma? |
| 00:25.30 | helix | but use an 'a' |
| 00:25.52 | cafuego | gb: copyrighted |
| 00:25.56 | mentor | gb: They sponsored Sesame Street? |
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| 00:26.15 | blazefx | hey all |
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| 00:26.47 | agentbob | cafeu: do you foresee any systematic problems from reinstalling login pkg? |
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| 00:26.53 | Francisco | Hi, I have a question, if apt-get is downloading, is there a key to change to a mirror ? |
| 00:26.55 | cafuego | agentbob: no, none. |
| 00:27.08 | sgeigerbot | mentor: I think they no longer sponsor Sesame Street. They can't afford to compete with Coca Cola and Burger King. |
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| 00:27.20 | mentor | Francisco: Not while it's dowloading. |
| 00:27.25 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | hello all |
| 00:27.28 | helix | ha |
| 00:27.28 | Francisco | oh :/ |
| 00:27.32 | mentor | blazefx: hi... |
| 00:27.35 | cafuego | did that McDonalds guy die of a heart attack btw? |
| 00:27.42 | agentbob | cafuego: thanks |
| 00:27.45 | mentor | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY: You had a fit while typing your nick? |
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| 00:27.47 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | yes cafugo |
| 00:27.50 | brianap | cafuego: yes he did |
| 00:27.52 | Francisco | crap downloading at 13Kbps :/ ftp.us.debian.com S: |
| 00:27.53 | blazefx | sup? |
| 00:27.54 | helix | what mcdonalds guy? |
| 00:28.03 | g4lt | Francisco .com?! |
| 00:28.04 | patterson | ceo |
| 00:28.07 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | the top cat at mcds |
| 00:28.08 | blazefx | mentor, hi |
| 00:28.13 | Francisco | yep |
| 00:28.13 | helix | bummer |
| 00:28.15 | cafuego | I was wondering why the news here suspiciously didn't mention a cause AT ALL |
| 00:28.20 | brianap | the CEO of mcdonalds died of a heartattack at age 60 while at a mcd convention |
| 00:28.24 | mentor | Francisco: You can kill the session, and start again. Debian willl keep the complete up to date packages. |
| 00:28.26 | patterson | was all those wendies burgers he was sneaking on the side |
| 00:28.30 | mentor | ~tell blazefx about ask |
| 00:28.32 | g4lt | cafuego because he was ninety fucking years old FFS |
| 00:28.32 | helix | cafuego: that reminds me, one time we had this guy come in the ER for chest pain etc. they were going to keep him overnight to monitor his heart |
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| 00:28.39 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | ok boys and girls, I'm having trouble :-( |
| 00:28.49 | helix | cafuego: he said he began having it while eating at this BBQ place and was angry he didn't get to finish his meal |
| 00:29.00 | helix | cafuego: so he was going to go back as soon as he got out to get some more fried pig |
| 00:29.03 | helix | bleh! |
| 00:29.10 | helix | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY: ask :) |
| 00:29.11 | Francisco | Mentor: it has gone through 153 we-gets, how can I cancel ? Control + c ? |
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| 00:29.26 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | ok... I have just got this old server but it doesn't boot from CDROM |
| 00:29.37 | DA_ | Francisco: sure. it wont delete your packages |
| 00:29.40 | helix | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY: does it have a floppy drive? |
| 00:29.43 | cafuego | helix: Hospitals go crazy with ECGs anyway, when I told 'em my problem last month they inited I was having a heart attack as well and bloody made shaved patches everywhere. |
| 00:29.46 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | I wanna stick debian on it, but I don't know if your net fd images can use CD |
| 00:29.56 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | I already have the CD and don't wanna use more bandy |
| 00:29.57 | LoonaTick | is there a debian package with a 'mail' binary which uses a configurable SMTP server? |
| 00:29.57 | cafuego | s/inited/insisted/ |
| 00:30.00 | mentor | Francisco: That's the idea. |
| 00:30.03 | Francisco | I'm running dselect |
| 00:30.03 | helix | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY: they can |
| 00:30.19 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | ok.. that sorts me out then :-) |
| 00:30.21 | helix | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY: you can boot from floppy or whatever, then use cdrom if it won't boot. |
| 00:30.24 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | I'll try that |
| 00:30.30 | helix | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY: yeah :) |
| 00:30.46 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | thanks ugys |
| 00:30.47 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | guys |
| 00:30.56 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | u knew what I meant :) |
| 00:30.58 | cafuego | speaking of bom dia, i go a free brzilian before the operation :-/ |
| 00:31.06 | jbr | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY: and gals |
| 00:31.06 | helix | cafuego: omg, latex thong time! |
| 00:31.15 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | and, of course, gals |
| 00:31.21 | helix | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY: ;) |
| 00:31.31 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | don't want a sexual descrimination law suit on my hands! |
| 00:31.40 | helix | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY: good thinking, since a girl helped you! |
| 00:31.48 | mentor | cafuego: Do you have some in a fine sand paper grade? |
| 00:31.56 | helix | cafuego: the _real_ brazilian waxes are a lot more intensive ;) |
| 00:32.04 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | ouch |
| 00:32.21 | cafuego | helix: I dunno if this one hurt, i was unconscious <heh> |
| 00:32.30 | helix | i'll have to go to the hospital |
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| 00:32.33 | cafuego | mentor: onl an angle grinder, and I'm NOT going there. |
| 00:32.38 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | shaven but not stirred eh? |
| 00:32.42 | helix | heh |
| 00:32.45 | jbr | cafuego: africanized beeswax, presumably |
| 00:33.02 | g4lt | of course the SLAP to get the wax released would be exquisitely painful... |
| 00:33.02 | helix | hm |
| 00:33.05 | mentor | cafuego: No, I was looking for some of your skin to help finish of a project ... ;) |
| 00:33.08 | helix | brazilian waxes aren't vegan? :O |
| 00:33.25 | cafuego | mentor: How's the dress coming along? |
| 00:33.25 | Francisco | Oh, so much better now, at top speed (40Kbps) mirrors.kernel.org :D |
| 00:33.34 | g4lt | helix "vegan" is an old india word for "can't even sneak up on an egg" ;P |
| 00:33.35 | mentor | jbr: Africanised Beeswax? They mix sand/vegetation into it? |
| 00:33.38 | helix | mentor == the guy from silence of the lambs |
| 00:33.54 | helix | g4lt: haha. yeah, "poor hunter" et al |
| 00:33.56 | mentor | helix: Which one? |
| 00:33.59 | T_VoiD | LoonaTick: usually you type "man mail" and at the end of the man, there's a FILES section which points to config files |
| 00:34.04 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | ok :) I have another problem... this will be my only Linux box and the fdd dist is a gz and various other Linux files |
| 00:34.06 | helix | mentor: the one that uses peoples skin, obviously |
| 00:34.19 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | I only have Win XP at the moment because my VM Linux just b0rked |
| 00:34.25 | cafuego | g4lt:No, it's aramaic for "killed a mushroom today" |
| 00:34.34 | mentor | Ah. Lady Suit. |
| 00:34.45 | LoonaTick | T_VoiD: -bash: mail: command not found |
| 00:34.51 | mentor | helix: Which remind me...I need some small of back... |
| 00:35.11 | jbr | LoonaTick: apt-get install mailx |
| 00:35.27 | T_VoiD | LoonaTick: heu well there are plenty. yea mailx is a default |
| 00:35.31 | LoonaTick | jbr: thanks=) |
| 00:35.32 | helix | mmm, fragrant |
| 00:35.40 | cafuego | g4lt: They're probably not much use in the rain, are they? |
| 00:35.45 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | reminds me of something Duke Nukem used to say |
| 00:35.53 | LoonaTick | mailx requires cron |
| 00:35.54 | mentor | g4lt: Um, no. A Lady Suit would have a scalp on the head. |
| 00:35.54 | LoonaTick | :/ |
| 00:36.04 | jbr | LoonaTick: you can't have cron? |
| 00:36.18 | LoonaTick | jbr: This box will have 100k hits/day |
| 00:36.22 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | any ideas guys? I can't create a FDD in windows from those files can I? |
| 00:36.24 | LoonaTick | its a pentium 2 266mhz |
| 00:36.27 | g4lt | cafuego I'd not, having never worn one |
| 00:36.28 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | (and gals) |
| 00:36.30 | Martin_1 | I got some trouble with Apache-Tomcat, always get an Internal Server error 500, Apache 1.3.26-0, Tomcat 4.0.3, j2sdk1.5.0 i try it before with j2sdk1.4.2_04 both failed |
| 00:36.30 | LoonaTick | 316 mb ram |
| 00:36.34 | cafuego | LoonaTick: That'll b fine. |
| 00:36.36 | helix | !fdd |
| 00:36.43 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | *FD |
| 00:36.45 | jbr | LoonaTick: bettr than this desktop |
| 00:36.47 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | floppy disk |
| 00:36.51 | LoonaTick | hehe |
| 00:36.55 | LoonaTick | I hope it'll run |
| 00:37.01 | helix | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY: yeah, you need rawrite though |
| 00:37.03 | sgeigerbot | Just wondering what an elegant way to do this is: I have a bash script that has three commands that I want to run on a remote. I could do "ssh sgeigerbot@reomte <command>" ...but I was wondering if there's a more elegant way. I suppose I could write one command to copy the script to the remote host, another to run the script...but is there something more elegant? |
| 00:37.13 | jbr | LoonaTick: stable runs on my 4-bogomips laptop |
| 00:37.27 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | right, that's a win32 app is it? |
| 00:37.31 | helix | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY: yes |
| 00:37.34 | LoonaTick | :) |
| 00:37.35 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | good good |
| 00:37.36 | helix | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY: it should be on the debian site somewhere |
| 00:37.38 | sgeigerbot | I know I *could* in theory, mount the remote filesystme and then run the commands as if they were local...but that sounds like a royal PITA. |
| 00:37.55 | cafuego | LoonaTick: That's (on average) 1.15 hit per second. That's _nothing_. |
| 00:38.07 | mentor | sgeigerbot: distributed shell? fault tolerant shell? |
| 00:38.11 | Justin | sgeigerbot: eh? |
| 00:38.12 | neiljp | solved! :) echo "quake2 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss |
| 00:38.23 | sime | i got a prob with gedit all of a sudden: |
| 00:38.25 | sime | ~$ gedit |
| 00:38.26 | sime | gedit: error while loading shared libraries: libgtksourceview-1.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 00:38.30 | zeo33x | is libxft-dev still fucked up in unstable? |
| 00:38.31 | smacnay_ | Is there a reason that exim 3.36 is installed by default in Sarge when exim4 is in the repository as well? |
| 00:38.33 | g4lt | cafuego it would be if it was a gigabyte page ;P |
| 00:38.44 | mentor | sime: I'm guessing it can't find that library. |
| 00:38.45 | LoonaTick | cafuego: True true. |
| 00:38.46 | Justin | sgeigerbot: ssh hostname 'command1 && command2 && command3' |
| 00:38.48 | T_VoiD | LoonaTick: if you want to find other packages that might help you or not, you can type: apt-cache showpkg mail-reader . you'll get a list of mail readers. if you have to rely on mta that's apt-cache showpkg mail-transport-agent |
| 00:38.53 | cafuego | g4lt: Only an idiot allowed http acess to /proc/kcore |
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| 00:38.59 | sime | smacnay_, search bugs.debian for a workaround |
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| 00:39.10 | LoonaTick | ok, thanks =) |
| 00:39.12 | cafuego | g4lt: Even then the problem is not cpu speed but nic speed, anyway. |
| 00:39.27 | helix | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY: http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/disks-i386/current/dosutils/ |
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| 00:39.43 | helix | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY: and go up a directory and in to images-1.44 |
| 00:39.45 | cafuego | s/problem/bottleneck/ |
| 00:39.50 | smacnay_ | sime: I have a functioning 3.36 right now but am curious as to why my system never automatically updated to version 4. |
| 00:39.54 | mqa | Hi how do i use cdrecord to burn to a remote burner, I use dev=REMOTE:user@ip:1,0,0 but it just hags there |
| 00:39.57 | sime | mentor, its installed though |
| 00:40.02 | jbr | LoonaTick: by the way, you can stop cron running... |
| 00:40.03 | g4lt | helix that's obscene: http://ftp... |
| 00:40.06 | mqa | Do I have to set up ssh key with that box? |
| 00:40.10 | cafuego | smacnay_: sarge beta3 installs exim4. |
| 00:40.15 | mentor | sime: Are you sure? Is it in you rlinker path? |
| 00:40.16 | helix | g4lt: heh |
| 00:40.19 | sime | smacnay_, thought your might be refering to upgrade prob |
| 00:40.30 | sime | mentor, rlinker? |
| 00:40.33 | helix | g4lt: cafuego in a latex thong is way more obscene |
| 00:40.36 | sgeigerbot | Justin & mentor: Thanks for the ideas. |
| 00:40.42 | cafuego | helix: I resent that |
| 00:40.42 | smacnay_ | sime: no attempt to upgrade yet. |
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| 00:40.53 | helix | :) |
| 00:40.56 | smacnay_ | cafuego: this is an 11-12 month old Sarge install |
| 00:40.58 | cafuego | helix: especially coming from a camel-licker |
| 00:41.00 | helix | !what does cafuego pay you for |
| 00:41.00 | dpkg | often cafuego insists on a good kick in the kidneys, helix, but I'm open to suggestions! |
| 00:41.03 | mentor | damnit. |
| 00:41.03 | g4lt | helix yeah, but we get to pll his hair out by the roots to do it |
| 00:41.07 | helix | yay |
| 00:41.17 | helix | cafuego: the camel would look better in a latex thong than you |
| 00:41.17 | mentor | "How the hell is Helix going to render a thong in LaTeX?" |
| 00:41.19 | cafuego | !cafuegosmite helix |
| 00:41.26 | mqa | Does anyone burn cds to remote burners? |
| 00:41.28 | helix | a mosh pit with myself. fun! |
| 00:41.34 | cafuego | helix: I don't doubt it <heh> |
| 00:41.47 | mentor | sime: rlinker? |
| 00:41.58 | sime | mentor, dont' know what it is |
| 00:42.07 | Spartak | hi, i get preaty crappy frame rates with ut2004 and i have a nVidia Geforce 4 Ti 4600 Ultra dual athlon MP 2000 + and get around 5000 for glxscore but my frame rate in ut2004 with 1024x768 everything on low low low around 32 and sometimes worse can someone help me please? |
| 00:42.24 | sgeigerbot | mqa: mkisofs -r backup/ | ssh sgeiger@adam.ncee.net "cdrecord -v speed=12 driveropts=burnproof dev=0,0,0 fs=8m -data -" |
| 00:42.34 | mentor | sime: Where is libgtksourceview-1.0.so.0? |
| 00:42.44 | mqa | sgeigerbot: i use that for data, but I want to burn audiocd |
| 00:42.51 | mentor | sgeigerbot: Do you have an autoloader? |
| 00:43.08 | mqa | I think I'm forced to user -dev=REMOTE:user@host:1,0,0 |
| 00:43.09 | helix | sgeigerbot: you're a gamer d00d? |
| 00:43.14 | sime | mentor, /usr/lib/libgtksourceview-1.0.so.0 |
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| 00:43.18 | sgeigerbot | mqa: cdrecord -v -pad speed=1 dev=0,0,0 -dao -audio -swab *.wav |
| 00:43.22 | sgeigerbot | helix: no....why? |
| 00:43.37 | helix | ut2004 is a game, isn't it? |
| 00:43.46 | mqa | sgeigerbot: the burner is on another comp |
| 00:43.47 | sgeigerbot | mentor: No, I don't. I stole that example from Linux Server Hacks. |
| 00:43.54 | mentor | sime: Confirmed that with an 'ls -l'? Next, run 'ldd' on gedit. |
| 00:43.55 | helix | doh. |
| 00:43.58 | helix | cafuego: thanks ;) |
| 00:43.58 | sgeigerbot | mentor: page 86. |
| 00:44.11 | mentor | sgeigerbot: OH, I assuemd that was the script your were trying ot run. |
| 00:44.14 | mqa | sgeigerbot: and I want to force cdrecord to use the remote burner |
| 00:44.21 | helix | wishful thinking, i guess |
| 00:44.22 | blazefx | hey I hate to ask this but how can I determine the "location" fir a printer? |
| 00:44.24 | blazefx | for* |
| 00:44.50 | cafuego | blazefx: Look at it, the plac eit is in is its location. |
| 00:44.51 | sgeigerbot | mqa: combine the examples I gave you. |
| 00:44.58 | mentor | blazefx: Look at the printer; relate to surroundings, relate surroundings to internal map. |
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| 00:45.16 | blazefx | Ohh, so location isint like usb0 ? |
| 00:45.31 | mentor | blazefx: Um. Do we know what you are talking about? |
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| 00:45.52 | cafuego | blazefx: No, location is physical. You would be after the 'printer port device name' |
| 00:46.06 | cafuego | blazefx: And that depends 100% on the printer. |
| 00:46.13 | cafuego | ... and how you connect it. |
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| 00:47.01 | cafuego | meh, the sun is shining through the palm tree right into mine eyes |
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| 00:47.04 | blazefx | i see. |
| 00:47.09 | sime | mentor, yeah not showing in /usr/lib, how can i reconfigure with apt or dpkg |
| 00:47.10 | blk | i just installed j2re and with that the gsfonts-x11 dep. which messes up my whole qt font rendering |
| 00:47.29 | blazefx | Because In the localhost:631 it asks for name, location and discription |
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| 00:47.34 | titou_ | hi |
| 00:47.36 | mentor | sime: release? |
| 00:47.40 | sgeigerbot | mentor: To access some of the machines I run, I tunnel SSH through a forwarded port. will it be easy to work with dsh if I do that? |
| 00:47.42 | mqa | sgeigerbot: i know how to burn data cds, thats not a problem, I was looking for how to make .iso from bunch of .wavs and same garbage apears, cdrecord <options> track1......track2 |
| 00:48.00 | mqa | sgeigerbot: so I am trying to figure out how to make dev=REMOTE work |
| 00:48.07 | titou_ | i have a little bit issue with the nvidia driver :/ |
| 00:48.10 | sgeigerbot | mqa: You do not make a filesystem when burning .wav files to a CD. Audio CDs don't have a filesystem. |
| 00:48.17 | cnelson | where is a good palce to go to find info on optimizing a kernel config file... |
| 00:48.39 | sime | mentor, sorry i dont follow |
| 00:48.40 | titou_ | when i compile and launch it, i have invalid module format .. |
| 00:48.42 | mqa | sgeigerbot: yes, but i want to make .iso it can be raw data |
| 00:48.45 | jcole_fc1 | cnelson: vi |
| 00:48.46 | titou_ | i don't know what to do :( |
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| 00:49.01 | sgeigerbot | mqa: I don't know about that. A hack that I can think of is to tar the .wav files, move them, untar them, and then burn them. SSH would work wonderfullly. |
| 00:49.12 | mentor | sgeigerbot: I thought dsh ran over another remote shell system; but I am not p[articularly familiar with it. |
| 00:49.15 | cnelson | jcole_fc1: vi doesn't tell me much ... it reads like a man page :) |
| 00:49.18 | mentor | sime: Of Debian. |
| 00:49.32 | sgeigerbot | mentor: I think you can use ssh. |
| 00:49.35 | mqa | sgeigerbot: yeah thats what i've been doing, but it is very anoying |
| 00:49.39 | jcole_fc1 | cnelson: good question though, i've wondered that myself |
| 00:50.06 | cnelson | jcole_fc1: i find a bunch of information on *how* to install but not *what* to install |
| 00:50.14 | sime | mentor, testing |
| 00:50.34 | mentor | ~find libgtksourceview-1.0.so.o testing |
| 00:50.41 | sgeigerbot | mqa: then stop pirating music! |
| 00:50.47 | sgeigerbot | ;-) |
| 00:50.55 | mqa | sgeigerbot: NEVER! :) |
| 00:51.04 | jcole_fc1 | cnelson: someone needs to write a program (gtk of course) that detects all hardware, then plops out a minimal kernel .config file |
| 00:51.12 | cafuego | sgeigerbot: You can pipe the wav files into cdrecord through ssh, just add -nofix and after they're all done, run cdrecord -fix |
| 00:52.01 | cnelson | jcole_fc1: yeah -- whenever I strive for minimal I always seem to leave my system unbootable ... |
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| 00:52.16 | mqa | jcole_fcl: I was thinking of that too, it shouldn't be too hard to make a lookup script with results mostly from lspci collected together |
| 00:52.28 | The_Faulkenator | Announcement: I fixed my problem :-) |
| 00:52.34 | The_Faulkenator | I just had to update the driver |
| 00:52.43 | mqa | and things like usb devices/strings/CONFIG_OPTION |
| 00:52.46 | sime | ~find libgtksourceview-1.0 testing |
| 00:52.52 | mqa | and dependencies |
| 00:53.05 | jcole_fc1 | mqa: ya, or even lsmod... from say a quick knoppix boot |
| 00:53.08 | blk | jcole_fc1: in gentoo there's gengerkernel..haven't seen it in debian and i doubt it to be gtk |
| 00:53.33 | mqa | jcole_fcl: it loads a lot of unnecessary stuff |
| 00:53.52 | jcole_fc1 | blk: genkernel ? |
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| 00:54.22 | blakezombie99 | is there a better net client than links for X-Windows? |
| 00:54.38 | nvs | blakezombie99: elinks! ;-) |
| 00:54.43 | blakezombie99 | k thanks |
| 00:54.50 | jbr | blakezombie99: "net client"? w3m? |
| 00:54.52 | kingsley | I just installed knoppix on my nine year old son's computer, and unless I'm mistaken, the "tux" screensaver won't be enough and he's going to want the other screensavers. I'm intentionally not connecting his PC to the internet for now, so, is there a way to get the rest of debian on various CDs? |
| 00:54.56 | jcole_fc1 | blk: nice. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/genkernel.xml |
| 00:55.04 | nvs | blakezombie99: I was just kidding. It's practically the same thing. |
| 00:55.19 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | hello again guys and gals. I wrote the FDD using rawrite and it was no longer in a recognisable format under Win. I am trying to boot from it anyway but I think it has crashed! |
| 00:55.26 | helix | i want an odd loko |
| 00:55.28 | mentor | ~find libgtksourceview-1.0.so.0 testing |
| 00:55.38 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | *FD |
| 00:55.40 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | not fdd |
| 00:55.41 | nvs | helix: mentor is "loko" ;-) |
| 00:55.55 | helix | nvs: does that mean he's part of KDE? |
| 00:55.57 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | I have been moaning about the fdd all day, not I can't help writing it instead of fd!!! |
| 00:55.59 | helix | loko en la kabeza? |
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| 00:56.17 | jcole_fc1 | cnelson: maybe you can hack up a solution with {a gentoo live cd}+{genkernel} ? |
| 00:56.29 | cnelson | jcole_fc1: I can't believe how long it takes to compile, say, a default kernel config from the debian kernel-image on my old computer. |
| 00:56.46 | cnelson | jcole_fc1: hmm. yeah -- i could try that. |
| 00:56.53 | interbird | dd |
| 00:57.00 | jcole_fc1 | cnelson: ya, that's an overnight task |
| 00:57.01 | mqa | jcole_fct: I think it is worth making a boot disk with kernel that supports pci, usb, and init would be a script which would paste connected pci/usb devices into a file and then that file would get sent over to a website that has a DB of device ID strings, puts together a .config and gives you a link to download that |
| 00:57.36 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | does anyone know of an executable FD image that I can use in Win32 to make a bootable Linux floppy? |
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| 00:57.48 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | I'm getting tired, I've been doing this all day! |
| 00:58.21 | helix | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY: did you write the proper stuff? |
| 00:58.39 | helix | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY: you need the rescue.bin and root.bin |
| 00:58.53 | jcole_fc1 | cnelson: i stopped complaining about how long a debian kernel took to compile when i installed gentoo from stage1 |
| 00:58.55 | rich_ | dpkg tell EpiLePTiC_FaiRY about bf2.4 |
| 00:58.58 | interbird | EpiLePTiC_FairRY: How will you make such an image bootable under Win32 ? |
| 00:59.00 | helix | from the images-1.44/bf2.4 directory |
| 00:59.20 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | yeah, I wrote the packages.gz from the i386 directory on the debian site |
| 00:59.27 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | interbird: restart :) |
| 00:59.33 | helix | huh? |
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| 00:59.50 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | I know of one distro that runs from a floppy, but it wouldn't let me access the CD |
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| 00:59.55 | helix | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY: the packages.gz file? that's not that you need |
| 01:00.01 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | a friend of mine tried a few others |
| 01:00.02 | helix | s/that/what/ |
| 01:00.03 | interbird | EpiLePTiC_FairRY: Why not restart right now ? |
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| 01:00.18 | jcole_fc1 | cnelson: took 6.5 days (straight i might add, script install) to emerge/compile everything i wanted on my little 500mhz |
| 01:00.20 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | goddammit |
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| 01:00.43 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | um... so I need the rescue.bin and root.bin |
| 01:00.55 | arkainium | why is it I can never get the pcspkr to work in 2.6 kernels? |
| 01:01.00 | helix | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY: yeah, save them somewhere and then run rawrite. you'll need two floppies. |
| 01:01.16 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | it said to look in that directory for the floppies... I dunno |
| 01:01.17 | interbird | EpiLePTiC_FairRY: You need some sleep -- curses only come back 2 U. |
| 01:01.19 | mqa | jcole_fcl: do you have other compes? use distcc, with 5 comps (~1ghz,256mb ram) kernel compiles in 3.5 min |
| 01:01.26 | helix | "2 U" wtf |
| 01:01.42 | blk | mqa: doesn't work with xfree... |
| 01:01.44 | helix | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY: yeah, no big deal |
| 01:01.45 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | interbird: I won't let it beat me! |
| 01:01.48 | blakezombie99 | is the a program to view pictures in X-Windows? |
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| 01:01.53 | mqa | blk: why? |
| 01:02.12 | blk | mqa: read the gentoo installation manual |
| 01:02.15 | blakezombie99 | I'm makin a web page and I need to add some pics in it |
| 01:02.28 | jcole_fc1 | mqa: i wanted the fuzzy feeling of compiling to the hardware |
| 01:02.32 | jbr | arkainium: CONFIG_INPUT_PCSPKR==y? |
| 01:02.33 | interbird | EpiLePTiC_FairRY: Yea, you're dumb enough to think like that. |
| 01:02.35 | blk | blakezombie99: qiv |
| 01:02.41 | helix | umm |
| 01:02.47 | mqa | jcole_fcl:?? |
| 01:02.50 | blakezombie99 | k |
| 01:02.50 | initech | blakezombie99: there's probab;y a hundred programs to "view pictures in Xwindows" |
| 01:03.16 | blakezombie99 | but I need a specific one cuz I don't know any |
| 01:03.17 | obake | let me make some advertisement. Halls rocks! |
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| 01:03.27 | sgeigerbot | blakezombie99: apt-cache search viewer | grep image |
| 01:03.29 | initech | blakezombie99: gqview works well |
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| 01:03.34 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | ah, didn't think it would take long to find an elitist |
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| 01:03.47 | jcole_fc1 | mqa: lol, sorry, thought you were talking about gentoo |
| 01:03.50 | T_VoiD | blakezombie99: display in imagemagick :) |
| 01:04.00 | initech | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY: this is #debian, we're all elitists here :-) |
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| 01:04.13 | blk | initech: right :) |
| 01:04.17 | arkainium | jbr: i've tried compiling it statically and as a module, neither worked. |
| 01:04.20 | obake | T_VoiD: it's sooo stable today |
| 01:04.25 | interbird | The question is: did you find one ? |
| 01:04.26 | mqa | jcole_fcl: no, i'm on deb, but i need to compile kernels ocasionaly, distcc works beautifully |
| 01:04.29 | obake | i've put the modem in a cooler place |
| 01:04.33 | jcole_fc1 | mqa: i've got an inthell 2.6ghz where it compiles in less than 5 minutes |
| 01:04.34 | T_VoiD | blakezombie99: alternate package: gimp :) |
| 01:04.34 | obake | looks more stable. |
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| 01:04.43 | jbr | arkainium: hrm, not the obvious gotch then |
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| 01:05.01 | mqa | jcole_fcl: nice 2.6? |
| 01:05.01 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | interbird: hmm |
| 01:05.01 | T_VoiD | obake: damn, so you can't call the techs! |
| 01:05.02 | obake | inthell? |
| 01:05.14 | obake | T_VoiD: i haven't, yet.. |
| 01:05.27 | rich_ | obake Yes, I put mine on top of an unused tull tower. It hasnt gone out since I moved it. Lets hope it works. |
| 01:05.47 | obake | but i don't know if the problem is really fixed now |
| 01:05.50 | obake | rich_: yeah |
| 01:05.50 | sgeigerbot | cafuego: I don't understand your comment about -fix and -nofix |
| 01:05.53 | blakezombie99 | thanks |
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| 01:06.09 | jcole_fc1 | mqa: CTCP VERSION xchat 2.0.7 Linux 2.4.22-1.2174.nptl [i686/2.66GHz] |
| 01:06.38 | obake | T_VoiD: but i still guess the problem isn't temperature.. hehe. anyway, hope it IS, all i can do now is wait ;) |
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| 01:07.02 | jcole_fc1 | i'm sure the whole room here appreciates that |
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| 01:07.11 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | helix: rescue.bin and root.bin appear to be quite elusive |
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| 01:07.37 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | helix: at the end of every file I go in to on the ftp.debian.org site I just get a packages.gz |
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| 01:07.39 | bghfhfg | My BIOS provides information on the temperature of the CPU and computer. How do I access this via Debian? |
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| 01:07.47 | EfaistOs | hi |
| 01:08.07 | g0llum_ | bghfhfg: lm-sensors |
| 01:08.11 | jcole_fc1 | and, i'm sure EpiLePTiC_FaiRY appreciates fine wine and dining on the beach |
| 01:08.21 | blk | bghfhfg: try acpi - or just type reboot, then press the delete or F2 key to look ;) |
| 01:08.22 | EfaistOs | i have a i810 sound card and i'm trying to use it with alsa but it doesnt work :-( any idea ? |
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| 01:08.41 | jcole_fc1 | EfaistOs: uname -a ? |
| 01:08.59 | EfaistOs | 2.6.5 ... why ? |
| 01:09.01 | blk | EfaistOs: intel8x0 is the driver i believe |
| 01:09.07 | blazefx | hey any one here know about the Lexmark x83 delema |
| 01:09.20 | EfaistOs | blk, i know but it doesnt work |
| 01:09.24 | interbird | Some among us are elitists... |
| 01:09.29 | mqa | those printers belong in stores ;) |
| 01:09.38 | blk | EfaistOs: raised the default "mute" level? |
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| 01:10.07 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | interbird: and some among you are willing to help the less initiated... like helix |
| 01:10.17 | jcole_fc1 | EfaistOs: i believe module (kernel object) names have changed between 2.4 and 2.6 for the i810 audio |
| 01:10.34 | blk | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY: and some believe using l33t names is cool |
| 01:11.00 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | and some consider idling in a help channel and being unable to provide help "cool" |
| 01:11.15 | interbird | Some are... |
| 01:11.16 | EfaistOs | no its okay ... its not working under beep-media-player |
| 01:11.22 | jcole_fc1 | EfaistOs: i know my i810 video did |
| 01:11.46 | EfaistOs | i thaught it was a problem with the modules maybe |
| 01:11.50 | EfaistOs | but not |
| 01:12.14 | interbird | Do they ? |
| 01:12.28 | jcole_fc1 | EfaistOs: ah, "killall artsd" (for kde) or "killall esd" (for gnome) |
| 01:12.54 | EfaistOs | jcole_fc1, i dont use thes kinds of things |
| 01:12.54 | jcole_fc1 | EfaistOs: artsd or esd might be locking /dev/ |
| 01:13.05 | patterson | whats that blazefx ? |
| 01:13.11 | EfaistOs | jcole_fc1, no because its working under mplayer or xmms |
| 01:13.15 | blakezombie99 | anyone know a good e-mail client other than pine? |
| 01:13.16 | EfaistOs | but not with bmp |
| 01:13.22 | goog | is there any way to not have xmms lock /dev/dsp? |
| 01:13.41 | goog | like, is it possible to be playing through xmms and still hear the sound events in gaim? |
| 01:13.48 | jcole_fc1 | EfaistOs: lsof | grep dsp ? |
| 01:14.06 | EfaistOs | jcole_fc1, nothin ... |
| 01:14.11 | interbird | EpiLePTiC_FairRY: Yeah. |
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| 01:14.13 | helix | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY: i gave you the link to them |
| 01:14.33 | jcole_fc1 | goog: depends on your sound driver, OSS locks /dev/dsp, try esound driver instead |
| 01:14.41 | helix | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY: http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/disks-i386/current/images-1.44/bf2.4/ |
| 01:14.59 | goog | jcole_fc1, hrmmm |
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| 01:15.31 | blakezombie99 | anyone know? |
| 01:15.31 | green-ears | <blakezombie99> in kde i prefer kmail |
| 01:15.41 | goog | jcole_fc1, I'm using OSS, and if i try to use esound, xmms won't play... i guess there's nothing i can do? |
| 01:15.53 | jcole_fc1 | goog: kde or gnome? |
| 01:16.00 | interbird | blakezombie99: Thunderbird ? |
| 01:16.11 | goog | jcole_fc1, gnome |
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| 01:17.03 | interbird | jcole_fc1: Gnome. |
| 01:17.08 | blakezombie99 | k |
| 01:17.13 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | helix: sorry, I thought you had gone :) I was away trying to find them! |
| 01:17.17 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | helix: thanks |
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| 01:17.22 | helix | np |
| 01:17.26 | jcole_fc1 | goog: esound driver should work with esd (gnome) or artsd (kde) |
| 01:17.27 | EfaistOs | it's working with bmp under root |
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| 01:17.40 | EfaistOs | but not as a simple user |
| 01:17.41 | jcole_fc1 | goog: as an experiment, log into kde |
| 01:17.45 | blakezombie99 | whats better? |
| 01:17.51 | EfaistOs | but it's working with xmms |
| 01:17.53 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | interbird: yeah what? |
| 01:17.53 | EfaistOs | weird |
| 01:17.55 | goog | jcole_fc1: kde's not even installed.. |
| 01:18.00 | blakezombie99 | kmail, thunderbird, or pine |
| 01:18.13 | goog | jcole_fc1: do i have to install another driver or something to get esd to work? |
| 01:18.27 | jbr | blakezombie99: or mutt or many many others |
| 01:18.35 | jcole_fc1 | EfaistOs: sounds like that specific app has a problem dude |
| 01:18.40 | interbird | EpiLePTiC_FairRY: Some are willing... Yeah. |
| 01:18.44 | helix | EfaistOs: what's wrong? |
| 01:18.50 | blakezombie99 | k |
| 01:18.52 | jcole_fc1 | goog: ps -ef | grep esd ? |
| 01:19.02 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | interbird: some just did :) |
| 01:19.05 | EfaistOs | jcole_fc1, it's like i have a problem with alsa_setup_mixer |
| 01:19.11 | helix | oh, alsa |
| 01:19.12 | EfaistOs | permission denied |
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| 01:19.30 | interbird | EpiLePTiC_FairRY: I knew it !, I lnew it !! |
| 01:19.33 | green-ears | <blakezombie99> the thing kmail it save all the info in a dir called Mail in the user home dir. this can be easly move to an other box. |
| 01:19.36 | helix | interbird: wtf dude |
| 01:19.47 | goog | jcole_fc1: that returns nothing.. |
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| 01:20.09 | interbird | helix: ? |
| 01:20.16 | helix | stop being a dick |
| 01:20.18 | JB318 | Does anybody know of a backport for foo2zjs to woody? It's a filter driver for using ZjStream laser printers |
| 01:20.35 | goog | jcole_fc1: it's not terribly important, i'll mess around with it on my own, thanks for your help |
| 01:20.37 | helix | !tell JB318 about simple sid backport |
| 01:20.41 | helix | hmm, i think that's the factoid |
| 01:20.48 | interbird | Stop interpreting me like that. |
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| 01:20.58 | jcole_fc1 | goog: np, use alsa if possible! |
| 01:21.08 | goog | :p ok |
| 01:21.09 | JB318 | helix: Interesting, will try |
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| 01:21.24 | EfaistOs | helix, an idea? |
| 01:21.34 | stew | JB318: i assume you checked apt-get.org |
| 01:21.50 | jcole_fc1 | i don't know why sound servers and x servers in linux have to be a science |
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| 01:21.55 | JB318 | stew: Negative, wasn't aware of it |
| 01:22.05 | helix | EfaistOs: shrug, check the permissions; if you can run it as root, maybe you're not in the audio group or something |
| 01:22.14 | helix | i don't know if that applies to alsa, though i guess it would make sense. |
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| 01:22.46 | EfaistOs | helix, i already checked the group |
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| 01:22.51 | EfaistOs | and i'm in audio group |
| 01:23.08 | helix | EfaistOs: what are you using? beep-media-player? |
| 01:23.16 | stew | EfaistOs: have you logged out and back in since you added yourself to the audio group? |
| 01:23.17 | rich_ | jcole_fc1 I agree. And that leads me to the conclusion of not running a sound server. Your sound system will be much less messy if you just live with whatever limitations that your sound card has and dont try to add fancy features by running daemons for it |
| 01:23.19 | JB318 | stew: Wasn't there anyway. |
| 01:23.21 | EfaistOs | yeah like xmms but with gtk2 |
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| 01:23.28 | helix | yeah, i used to use that |
| 01:23.29 | EfaistOs | stew, nope |
| 01:23.39 | helix | EfaistOs: do what stew said :) |
| 01:23.51 | EfaistOs | ok i'm coming back right now |
| 01:24.18 | hyde | more people should be informed of screen |
| 01:24.28 | jbr | EfaistOs: more people should be informed of su - $USER as painless relogin |
| 01:24.30 | kil03 | i have output all the packages to a file, and i want to take that file and install those same packages on another debian system. can i pipe which packages i want to aptget? |
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| 01:24.39 | hyde | jbr, and that |
| 01:24.44 | jcole_fc1 | rich_: sound server evolutionary beasts, looks like alsa is the fittest |
| 01:24.54 | interbird | helix: wtf dude |
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| 01:25.19 | hyde | jcole_fc1, i don't believe alsa is to be considered a "sound server" |
| 01:25.23 | helix | ? |
| 01:26.01 | cef | heya helix |
| 01:26.03 | hyde | jcole_fc1, esd, arts on the other hand, are |
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| 01:26.12 | sgeigerbot | kil03: just to "apt-get install <pkg1> <pkg2> <pkg3> |
| 01:26.21 | kil03 | ahh |
| 01:26.25 | silverine | I keep getting /usr/bin/dpkg error 1, and five packages won't install. I keep doing apt-get -f install, and apt-get upgrade, but nothing. Any suggestions? (Muchly appreciated.) |
| 01:26.30 | tcsetattr | apt-get install `cat file` |
| 01:26.47 | cef | silverine: which packages? |
| 01:26.48 | jcole_fc1 | hyde: thx :P |
| 01:27.14 | t_test29 | Requesting help for simple ppp0 modem trouble shooting (connects OK, ping and "lynx URL" give no result)... please feel free to "whisper" or chat with me somehow, pls. Novice to Debian.:-) |
| 01:27.17 | helix | ceeeeeeef! |
| 01:27.22 | green-ears | <silverine> apt-get update |
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| 01:27.49 | silverine | kde, libpaperg, ehm, three others. |
| 01:27.57 | EfaistOs | the permission are ok now but the player just freeze and i must kill it |
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| 01:28.05 | EfaistOs | really weird |
| 01:28.09 | tcsetattr | t_test29, do the hostnames lokoup OK? ping should at least tell you what IP address it is using. |
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| 01:28.23 | bur[n]er_ | silverine: it have to do with lg-issue50? |
| 01:28.27 | silverine | green-ears, I did. I found advice that I should apt-update, and then apt-get -f install back and forth until all I was left with were the packages that had the error |
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| 01:29.02 | EfaistOs | i restarted it and now is working |
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| 01:29.20 | silverine | er, apt-get update rather. bur[n]er: I don't know. Is that a package name? (It isn't one of the packages that won't install) |
| 01:29.29 | green-ears | yes |
| 01:29.39 | Thetan7 | t_test29 do you use standard tools: pppconfig, pon, poff and plog? |
| 01:29.53 | Thetan7 | t_test29 plog -f should give you enough informations. DId you get IP address? |
| 01:29.55 | t_test29 | tcsetattr: no lookup occurs no feedback (lynx says "looking up" only) (Please feel free to private chat if you are able I can see there are +- 709 people here!) |
| 01:29.58 | ekarma | hey guys, im trying to use VNC to remotely use my current X desktop (not start a new X session).. anyone know how to do this? or point me in the right direction? |
| 01:29.59 | Croepha | how do i setup ssh so that when i foward remote ports thoes remote ports can accept incomming connections from anywhere??? |
| 01:30.33 | stew | ekarma: x0rfbserver |
| 01:30.35 | tcsetattr | if you ping ftp.debian.org, it should say something like PING ftp.debian.org (128.101.80.131): 56 data bytes |
| 01:30.35 | bur[n]er_ | ekarma: try x0rfbserver... (package rfb) |
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| 01:30.40 | ekarma | sweet, thanks guys |
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| 01:30.54 | t_test29 | Thetan7: Exactly. Those connect perfectly and give Ifconfig a good-looking IP. |
| 01:30.58 | Thetan7 | tcsetattr well that is not always the test. use 'host' to find IP. |
| 01:31.12 | bur[n]er_ | silverine: it's one of the things that errors for me and makes it so i can't insatll anything else ;) |
| 01:31.18 | Thetan7 | t_test29 very good. what is your DNS? Is it in /etc/resolv.conf correctly? |
| 01:31.33 | Thetan7 | t_test29 you maybe did not choose to dynamically update DNS. |
| 01:31.40 | tcsetattr | Thetan7, it's a good enough test to suggest to someone who already tried a ping |
| 01:31.47 | silverine | what's it called again, bur[n]er? sorry, I'm using a tiny console, no clue how to scroll back up (newbie, obviously) |
| 01:31.57 | t_test29 | Thetan7: plog gave nothing. (Visiting here via a Live Knoppix distro so can't test anything on hda3) |
| 01:32.04 | Thetan7 | tcsetattr ok, but some people firewall pings. I know all networks firewalled and ISPs. |
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| 01:32.47 | Thetan7 | t_test29 well if you used plog and there is nothing, how do you see your IP? |
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| 01:32.55 | tcsetattr | Theta7, you are missing the point entirely. The question is whether the lookup happened! I'm just suggesting the use of ping as a DNS lookup tool first. Not everyone has "host" installed but most have ping. Now if you're done interfering with my attempts to help, maybe we could get back to the newbie? |
| 01:33.15 | Thetan7 | tcsetattr don't get upset. |
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| 01:33.46 | t_test29 | Thetan7: Can hardly find your messages these lines are scrolling so fast :-) Er, the IP I think do not get displayed even. |
| 01:33.59 | tcsetattr | t_test29, you can't get "no feedback" from ping. Either it shows an IP address and starts sending packets, or it says "unknown host". |
| 01:34.26 | tcsetattr | if you say neither of the above happened, then you probably just didn't wait long enough. |
| 01:34.28 | tripWire | or a timeout |
| 01:34.30 | bur[n]er_ | anyone know if i can delete the file /var/lib/dpkg/available? |
| 01:34.44 | nsj_ | Is it possible to write a bash shell script that will execute some programs, and whilst they're continuing to be executed, keep displaying the system load and CPU usage? |
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| 01:34.55 | t_test29 | Thetan7: Yes, there I have search, and two nameserver lines. I can read and write those from here. |
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| 01:35.06 | Thetan7 | t_test29 than: grep 'local IP' /var/log/syslog |
| 01:35.27 | bur[n]er_ | nevermind that last question... i fixed the syntax error :) |
| 01:35.36 | tcsetattr | nsj_: cmd & pid=$! ; while kill -0 $pid ; do uptime ; sleep 2 ; done |
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| 01:35.52 | nsj_ | tcsetattr: You are a legend. Many thanks! |
| 01:36.05 | tcsetattr | untested :) |
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| 01:36.19 | t_test29 | Thetan7: I find nice Ip's with ifconfig. |
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| 01:36.39 | ioerror | does anyone know what package provides libdes? |
| 01:36.59 | Thetan7 | t_test29 so what have you not? |
| 01:37.09 | nsj_ | tcsetattr Will that only work on Linux? I've just tried it quickly on my SunOS box and it's not worked. |
| 01:37.12 | t_test29 | tcsdetattr: ping just stalls or freezes and none of those messages return. |
| 01:37.16 | nsj_ | (Although the final implementation will be for a Linux machine) |
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| 01:37.23 | Thetan7 | t_test29 do you have Www? |
| 01:37.35 | g4lt | nsj_ shell issues.... |
| 01:37.40 | jbr | ioerror: http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages#search_contents has never heard of it |
| 01:38.05 | nsj_ | Just tried it on my Debian box.. |
| 01:38.07 | tcsetattr | t_test29, you didn't wait long enough... but it sounds like DNS problme. What happens if you do ping with an IP address instead of a hostname? Like the P-t-P address from your ifconfig ppp0? |
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| 01:38.10 | T_VoiD | nsj_: hum what's the goal? to see screen scrolling while the program is running? |
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| 01:38.29 | cef | helix: how goes things your side of the globe? |
| 01:38.35 | somiaj | t_test29: are you pinging an name or an ip address? |
| 01:38.42 | nsj_ | T_VoiD: To see an update of the system load while the chain of programs are being launched by the shell script. |
| 01:38.49 | helix | cef: things are hot |
| 01:38.55 | T_VoiD | nsj_: ah ok :) |
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| 01:39.10 | t_test29 | Thetan7: "lynx www.yahoo.com" does nothing after twenty seconds repeatedly. |
| 01:39.18 | tcsetattr | worked fine for me, nsj |
| 01:39.20 | nsj_ | Basically, it needs to execute programs 1 2 3 4 and keep those programs running... and while they're up and running, display some basic system stats. |
| 01:39.24 | itp560 | get a segmentation fault on /usr/bin/dpkg anyone exprience this kind of error |
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| 01:39.37 | t_test29 | Thetan7: "ping www.google.com" does nothing after twenty seconds repeatedly. |
| 01:39.38 | nsj_ | "cmd command not found" |
| 01:39.42 | cef | helix: heh. anything interesting happening? how goes the cats? |
| 01:39.52 | somiaj | itp560: check the bts, I'd also check the bts for libc6... |
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| 01:39.55 | space_ | Hi, does anyone know what was the legendary example of software never being released due to developers being perfectionists and not wanting to do a release while they still had things to fix/add? |
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| 01:39.59 | tcsetattr | nsj_, cmd is the command you're trying to run in the backgroudn! What do you want me to do chew your food for you? You goota put in some effort! |
| 01:39.59 | nsj_ | That's on GNU bash, version 2.05b.0(1)-release (i386-pc-linux-gnu) |
| 01:40.21 | T_VoiD | haha |
| 01:40.23 | JB318 | tcsetattr: I hope that makes the quote file :) |
| 01:40.27 | itp560 | somiaj, how can I do that ?? |
| 01:40.28 | Thetan7 | ping 216.239.57.104 and see if you get something. |
| 01:40.36 | somiaj | !tell itp560 about the bts |
| 01:40.43 | tcsetattr | too many typos in it |
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| 01:41.13 | JB318 | tcsetattr: Just means it's authentic. Raw is in, etc. |
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| 01:41.46 | nsj_ | Can I just make it a dummy executable, though? I've got, in the script (flags gone), "sox; lame; what you gave me" -- but lame and sox need to keep running uninterrupted. |
| 01:41.50 | jbr | nsj: /usr/share/wims/modules/tool/wcalc.fr/dic/cmd |
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| 01:42.16 | jbr | nsj: in wims-modules-fr |
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| 01:42.27 | nsj_ | wims-modules-fr... French? :S :p |
| 01:42.27 | t_test29 | Thetan7: Before I came here I visited OCLUG (Ottawa, Ca.) and did (with the same results) "ping -n 204.92.71.2" |
| 01:42.36 | cef | yay! the bts actually got around to responding to my bug report |
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| 01:42.38 | jbr | nsj: (true, though unhelpful) |
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| 01:43.26 | prock | mozilla and all others SUCK |
| 01:43.29 | Thetan7 | t_test29 did it work and now does not work without you chaning anything? |
| 01:43.30 | tcsetattr | nsj_, then you'll have to take the core idea of saving the pid andusing kill -0, and use your own programming skill to make it test multiple PIDs |
| 01:43.31 | prock | except for firefox |
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| 01:44.00 | goog | T_VoiD: any sound? |
| 01:44.00 | space_ | mozilla sux? since when!? |
| 01:44.26 | nsj_ | Woohoo, hard work time ;) |
| 01:44.32 | nsj_ | Thanks for the pointers gentlemen. |
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| 01:44.44 | nsj_ | (Also, I'm a touch rusty, what's the command to make a buffer device?) |
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| 01:44.53 | tcsetattr | cmd1 & pid1=$! ; cmd2 & pid2=$! ; while kill -0 $pid1 || kill -0 $pid2 ; do ... but that will be bad news if one pid gets recycled while the other one is still hanging around |
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| 01:45.36 | bullseye | when i try to install gnome i get the following packages have unmet dependencies |
| 01:45.50 | jbr | nsj: what, mknod? |
| 01:45.51 | t_test29 | Thetan7: No. A first time install. Just finished getting the printer and KDE to work. If this were RedHat 8 I might think that there was a firewall in the way. I turned off Debian's iptables, it there maybe more? Dunno. |
| 01:46.31 | nsj_ | jbr: I've been swearing at my machine because it oesn't know what "mkdev" is.. I want to set up a couple of FIFO buffers. |
| 01:46.33 | Kempston | i need to join few drives into 1 using evms, i have everything installed but i'm confused alot with all these containers strages and things like that, what should i do ? |
| 01:46.42 | jbr | nsj: mkfifo! |
| 01:46.47 | nsj_ | mkfifo! |
| 01:46.49 | somiaj | bullseye: what happens if you try to add the dependencies to your apt-get install line? |
| 01:46.55 | sgeigerbot | I've used ssh-copy-id to allow me to log into several of my machines using a normal user (that has sudo access to root powers). Is there any reason why I shouldn't use ssh-copy-id as root? Is that a security issue? I'm asking because I need to run something as root on a remote machine, but I want to do it via a script that makes an SSH connection to that machine. |
| 01:46.56 | Thetan7 | t_test29 default install does not have any firewall. you pppconfig and it works. |
| 01:46.59 | tcsetattr | nsj_, mkfifo or "mknod -p" if you're old-fashioned |
| 01:47.03 | nsj_ | Is mkfifo just a front for mknod? |
| 01:47.19 | tcsetattr | "mknod foo P" I mean |
| 01:47.20 | bullseye | somiaj: i dont find them |
| 01:47.25 | tcsetattr | s/P/p/ |
| 01:47.34 | t_test29 | Wondering why my ppp0 Deb. simply can connect and not let me use it. |
| 01:47.43 | sgeigerbot | helix: mooo |
| 01:47.48 | somiaj | bullseye: give me an example, maybe the mirror you have doesn't have a complete list, or you need to add something else to your sources. |
| 01:47.55 | helix | sgeigerbot: make a camel noise |
| 01:48.06 | Thetan7 | t_test29 I wonder do you use plog/logs to see what happened. |
| 01:48.12 | sgeigerbot | helix: *cough* *cough* |
| 01:48.23 | sgeigerbot | helix: (That's the Camel cigarette noise.) |
| 01:48.27 | t_test29 | Thetan7: I tried plog once and it gives nothing. |
| 01:48.33 | tcsetattr | t_test29, maybe you need a defaultroute |
| 01:48.52 | bullseye | somiaj: rhythmbox |
| 01:48.52 | t_test29 | OK, from pppconfig? |
| 01:49.01 | nsj_ | ppp... oh how I remember the days. The agony. Now a 2-line /etc/network/interfaces file and a DHCP hardware router :) |
| 01:49.08 | zignig | helix: guttenbleh ! |
| 01:49.12 | tcsetattr | t_test29, also I can recommend "tcptraceroute www.google.com" and "dnstracer -s . www.google.com" as good diagnostic tools, better than ping |
| 01:49.25 | Kempston | anyone ? |
| 01:49.40 | helix | zignig: bleh! |
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| 01:50.07 | dodgyville | Hello |
| 01:50.11 | tcsetattr | and be patient waiting for results :) |
| 01:50.12 | t_test29 | tsceattr: I see. (Making notes..) |
| 01:50.14 | somiaj | bullseye: yea, I see rhythmbox just fine, I'd suggest modifing your sources.list and then apt-get update and try again..(if the sources.list look complete use a different mirror) |
| 01:50.50 | bullseye | ok |
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| 01:50.58 | dodgyville | When I start my irda connection via pppd, my connection to the internet goes strange. Only websites I have recently accessed and still accessible. All other connections are refused. Are two pppd daemons running at once bad? |
| 01:51.04 | bullseye | somiaj: wher do i find mirrors ??? |
| 01:51.13 | knoppix_ | join #knoppix |
| 01:51.13 | flugh | bathrooms |
| 01:51.19 | knoppix_ | #knoppix |
| 01:51.26 | green-ears | on cars |
| 01:51.29 | somiaj | bullseye: you can get a list at debian.org, or you can run apt-setup it should list a few, btw what version of debian are you running? |
| 01:51.32 | nsj_ | Is it possible to make an ncurses interface using only a bash shell script, or does it require proper programming? :) |
| 01:51.44 | g4lt | knoppix_ /join #knoppix |
| 01:51.46 | bullseye | somiaj: thx |
| 01:51.47 | flugh | nsj_, look into 'expect' |
| 01:51.47 | Thetan7 | knoppix_ you have to say: /join #knoppix |
| 01:51.59 | dodgyville | lol |
| 01:52.10 | dodgyville | i've done so many times |
| 01:52.14 | dodgyville | (that) |
| 01:52.14 | tcsetattr | dodgyville, multiple pppd's should be able to operate without interfering with each other, unless they've been configured badly |
| 01:52.16 | nsj_ | "A program that talks to other programs"? |
| 01:52.30 | Thetan7 | nsj_ I know it is perfectly possible to have a nice interface, colors, with ksh. |
| 01:52.34 | dodgyville | tcsetattr: Me configure something badly? That sounds so unlikely |
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| 01:52.40 | Francisco | Hi people! |
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| 01:52.49 | dodgyville | Francisco: hello |
| 01:52.51 | nsj_ | Thetan7: I'm not adverse to using a different shell.. |
| 01:52.59 | Francisco | Hi, how are all doing? |
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| 01:53.17 | tag | How do I make apt upgrade |
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| 01:53.23 | Thetan7 | nsj_ you can always use those terminal settings to move on the screen. |
| 01:53.23 | tag | all the packages its keeping back? |
| 01:53.25 | t_test29 | (OK. Going to take some pain killers.) |
| 01:53.27 | flugh | nsj_, i figure bash is just a command interpreter. if you want some more than command interpreting, you probably have to use something else |
| 01:53.31 | Francisco | tag = apt-get update |
| 01:53.38 | debian | tag: what did you type? |
| 01:53.39 | flugh | nsj_, that's my guess, but i am up for correction |
| 01:53.40 | T_VoiD | dodgyville: i'd check first about a bad default route or a bad dns (or bad mix of both) when you establish the 2nd ppp |
| 01:53.45 | tcsetattr | nsj_, you might want to look into "dialog" or "whiptail" - ncurses/newt widgets designed for use in shell script |
| 01:53.48 | jbr | tag: are things "on hold"? |
| 01:53.51 | tag | debian, apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 01:53.53 | Thetan7 | nsj_ those which change the line and position of cursors. Colors are already there. |
| 01:53.58 | tag | jbr, Not that I know of |
| 01:53.58 | knoppix_ | anyone in here knows about this blog thing? |
| 01:54.18 | jbr | tag: should be just apt-get update && apt-get upgrade then |
| 01:54.21 | nsj_ | It doesn't need to be fancy, just something to make the screen look a bit prettier. Not that grey on black isn't pretty, but you know.. :) |
| 01:54.28 | tcsetattr | `dialog' is the basis of the kernel menuconfig utility |
| 01:54.29 | debian | tag: I usually remove those package kept back, upgrade again, then reinstall the package. |
| 01:54.32 | tag | jbr, I just updated 10 seconds ago |
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| 01:54.45 | tag | jbr, I'm not a *complete* moron :-) |
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| 01:54.48 | jbr | tag: so what's the problem? |
| 01:55.00 | tag | like I said |
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| 01:55.07 | tag | "The following packages have been kept back:" |
| 01:55.10 | tag | and the list is long |
| 01:55.12 | knoppix_ | anyone in here knows about this blog thing? |
| 01:55.14 | green-ears | <tag> apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 01:55.16 | flugh | save a few keystrokes. i have in .bashrc: alias augh='apt-get update & apt-get dist-upgrade' ;) |
| 01:55.17 | tag | I'm trying to upgrade to the newest gnome |
| 01:55.19 | rich_ | knoppix_ I just recently lkearned a blog is a web log. They are for people not smart enough to use usenet or deliberately to keep people from learning about usenet and hence carall them into one line of discussion. Theyve recently emerged as a political tool. |
| 01:55.20 | nsj_ | whiptail looks good. |
| 01:55.20 | knoppix_ | it's like something nasty in which you put some comments and pic and stuff |
| 01:55.23 | tag | wow |
| 01:55.26 | tag | you guys are like a broken record |
| 01:55.27 | jbr | tag: what's it "keeping back"? Are you on sarge? ...etc |
| 01:55.29 | knoppix_ | need help on that |
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| 01:55.42 | tag | jbr, I just set my default to 'experimental' |
| 01:55.48 | tag | it was testing before |
| 01:55.58 | sunilonln | hello, i am looking for help with ndiswrapper and the twl-228pi (or whatever i need to do to get it to work) |
| 01:56.06 | tag | but I want gnome 2.6 which is only in experimental |
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| 01:56.19 | nsj_ | Change your sources to sarge? |
| 01:56.32 | tag | which one is sarge again? I forget |
| 01:56.47 | nsj_ | At the moment, testing. It should be going stable in a couple of months. |
| 01:56.51 | dodgyville | T_VoiD: How would I test for a bad default route? |
| 01:57.02 | T_VoiD | tag: each time an upgrade of a package requires to install a new one you didn't have, it's kept back |
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| 01:57.03 | tag | I want the experimental sources for gnome though |
| 01:57.05 | tag | because I want 2.6 |
| 01:57.22 | tag | ah |
| 01:57.31 | tag | okay just a minute |
| 01:57.38 | Thetan7 | tag get those sources and compile by yourself to /usr/local |
| 01:57.41 | tag | T_VoiD, Thanks I think you might have answered my question |
| 01:58.11 | somiaj | is it possible to have xdm launch a second xsession on the next vt like you can with gdm/gnome? |
| 01:58.11 | tag | Thetan7, If I wanted to do that, I'd just run slackware |
| 01:58.11 | T_VoiD | tag: usually i type a few apt-get install <cut/paste of a line of kept back packages> and usually i don't even have a conflict :) |
| 01:58.11 | tag | k.thx |
| 01:58.11 | Thetan7 | somiaj yes, it does work. |
| 01:58.24 | Segers_J | /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ltk <- how do I fix this? what does this mean? google failed me this time. libtk8.3-dev is installed. |
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| 01:58.40 | mhall | I really love it when I get spam that says it can help me with my internet connection problems, many of which are caused by spam, virii, and worms. |
| 01:58.43 | chuotcon | hey |
| 01:58.47 | chuotcon | can someone help me |
| 01:59.00 | chuotcon | i have problem with python |
| 01:59.01 | Thetan7 | tag: well it is standard way for non-distribution based progs: /usr/local |
| 01:59.02 | nsj_ | Segers_J: Is libtk's location specified in ld.so ? |
| 01:59.05 | chuotcon | it says 'import site' failed; use -v for traceback |
| 01:59.13 | chuotcon | do you know how i can fix it? |
| 01:59.18 | tag | AHA |
| 01:59.22 | somiaj | Thetan7: the only way I found out how to do it is add multiple servers in the xdm config, but what if I only wanted to launch the second one sometimes, you happen to know the command (man page and google have revealed the trick just yet) |
| 01:59.24 | tag | Thetan7, I see whats going on |
| 01:59.24 | shadows | chuotcon, that doesn't really say anything |
| 01:59.29 | Thetan7 | somiaj you just look in the file /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers, there is example with vt8, vt9, etc. |
| 01:59.32 | tag | it wants to remove a package |
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| 01:59.35 | Segers_J | nsj_: looking |
| 01:59.39 | T_VoiD | dodgyville: well you have to check interfaces and routes before and after you have the 2nd ppp, i'm ok if you go to #flood and do a few pastes. but if you lose irc access when doing the 2nd operation, get a way to record all on your side to write it later |
| 01:59.39 | tag | which something else currently installed is dependant on |
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| 02:00.16 | Thetan7 | somiaj good luck by starting by hand. |
| 02:00.20 | chuotcon | shadows: when i type python it gave me that message |
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| 02:00.33 | somiaj | Thetan7: yea I found that...I should of made myself clearer, I don't want a perment login, just one I could launch and the shut down when its done with. |
| 02:00.41 | shadows | why were you typing python |
| 02:00.51 | Thetan7 | somiaj what is than the point of xdm? Just run startx. |
| 02:00.52 | somiaj | Thetan7: ok, I just rembered when I use to use gnome/gdm there was a nice menu option to do it, but don't recall how it was done..thanks for your help. |
| 02:00.57 | tag | I'm upgrading to the experimental dist |
| 02:00.58 | tag | screw it |
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| 02:01.09 | Thetan7 | somiaj and by default there is no such option with gdm. |
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| 02:01.13 | T_VoiD | good bye tag :) |
| 02:01.40 | ryan_ | I just ran 'rm /lib/*', am I totaly fucked? |
| 02:01.45 | jbr | tag: guten nacht tag |
| 02:01.53 | tag | its not that bad is it? |
| 02:01.54 | tag | heh |
| 02:01.58 | somiaj | Thetan7: hmm, it worked everytime for me with gdm/gnome (in the gnome system menu), oh well I'll just use startx, its more for a friend if they wanted to use my computer I didn't have to log out of X first..(: |
| 02:01.58 | chuotcon | can someone help me there |
| 02:02.00 | cef | tag: you mean "I'm adding the experimental repository to sources.list and apt'ing the experimental packages I want to install" |
| 02:02.11 | T_VoiD | ryan_: well i'm not sure you can run any new process |
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| 02:02.26 | ryan_ | T_VoiD, no, it seem not.... |
| 02:02.29 | tag | cef, no |
| 02:02.32 | cef | tag: cos as such there is no experimental "dist" |
| 02:02.33 | `Xenocide | tag: as the naming scheme implies, its worse than unstable and very likely "experimental" |
| 02:02.34 | sodas | How would I downgrade a package.. lets say I have Testing openoffice installed, how would I downgrade it and install Stable openoffice? |
| 02:02.37 | Thetan7 | somiaj: two people on one computer with one keyboard and one monitor. and you want a solution. hmm. |
| 02:02.48 | tag | `Xenocide, unstable is very stable |
| 02:02.50 | ryan_ | T_VoiD, any way to repair that? |
| 02:03.00 | `Xenocide | tag: tell that to pciutils |
| 02:03.02 | ryan_ | or am i simply screwed? |
| 02:03.05 | cef | tag: experimental sits on unstable. |
| 02:03.06 | sodas | Expermintal is stable enough |
| 02:03.08 | Thetan7 | ryan_ har har har |
| 02:03.10 | T_VoiD | ryan_: you'll need help from an other working installation |
| 02:03.13 | Segers_J | nsj_: uhh, I just added /usr/lib/tk8.3 and /usr/lib/tcl8.3 to /etc/ld.so.conf and it still won't link |
| 02:03.20 | dodgyville | T_VoiD: Where would i find info on interfaces? Is "route" ok for routes? |
| 02:03.25 | Thetan7 | Segers_J try ldconfig after that |
| 02:03.43 | T_VoiD | ryan_: for eg, if you have spare partitions on your computer, reinstall debian, and from this debian you can do something. losing /lib removes any handy tool to repair |
| 02:03.43 | `Xenocide | besidese massive computations and disk accesses, what does scrollkeeper do exactly? |
| 02:03.48 | jbr | dodgyville: man interfaces? |
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| 02:04.13 | nvz | I've got to get that power light fixed on the other box, twice now I've powered it down thinking its was off |
| 02:04.14 | ryan_ | T_VoiD, so, I should be able to fire up a boot disk, copy crap to /lib, and have apt repair anything left? |
| 02:04.15 | somiaj | Thetan7: na, only one person on the computer at the time, I just don't want to shut down gvim/xemacs or any project I have going...oh startx won't run because my current X has a lockfile. Well anyways thanks for your help...(: |
| 02:04.22 | T_VoiD | ryan_: not that easy |
| 02:04.28 | ryan_ | crap |
| 02:04.30 | T_VoiD | ryan_: crap from floppy ins incompatible :> |
| 02:04.31 | cef | nvz: heh |
| 02:04.32 | Segers_J | Thetan7: still says "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ltk" |
| 02:04.36 | Thetan7 | somiaj than you want to expose your data to 2nd person? |
| 02:04.52 | Thetan7 | Segers_J any mistake in the file? |
| 02:05.05 | tag | ok hopefully this works right |
| 02:05.10 | bullseye | somiaj: thx |
| 02:05.11 | Segers_J | Thetan7: the source? |
| 02:05.12 | bullseye | somiaj: thx |
| 02:05.23 | bullseye | somiaj: are you ther |
| 02:05.32 | JB318 | somiaj: Latecomer to the conversation... does "startx -- :1" not work for some reason? |
| 02:05.35 | Segers_J | Thetan7: or ld.so.conf? |
| 02:05.38 | somiaj | Thetan7: if they are on another xserver, and my screen is locked with xlock or xscreensaver, they could see my data? (didn't know that) |
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| 02:05.54 | somiaj | bullseye: I'm here...and your welcome. |
| 02:05.55 | T_VoiD | ryan_: well too many things to explain, supposing you can do it (requires additional space). |
| 02:05.59 | somiaj | JB318: thanks, I'll try that |
| 02:06.00 | nsj_ | Segers_J: Have you done ldconf to let it know about the changes? |
| 02:06.21 | Thetan7 | ld.so.conf |
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| 02:06.41 | Thetan7 | somiaj but how can you change vt if you run xscreensaver. |
| 02:06.41 | blaze | sup all? |
| 02:06.42 | cef | nsj_: should work fine |
| 02:06.47 | Segers_J | nsj_: I ran ldconfig, yes. |
| 02:06.48 | T_VoiD | ryan_: so if you had spare paritions, i suggest you reinstall debian on the spare partitions, don't touch what you have, then transfer all your datas you want to keep and reinstall. that's the bulldozer method but seems easy hehe :) |
| 02:06.56 | cef | nsj_: at the most, it simply won't recognise it |
| 02:07.06 | Segers_J | Thetan7: dunno, rtfming, bbl. |
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| 02:07.09 | Thetan7 | well it does work I see now with me. |
| 02:07.10 | T_VoiD | dodgyville: come on #flood for the pastes |
| 02:07.10 | nsj_ | hm. |
| 02:07.25 | bullseye | somiaj: when i search for det dependencies like apt-cache search rhytmbox i find it but when i type apt-get install gnome it dosent ??? |
| 02:07.30 | nvz | cef: or fry the mobo depending on what kind of mouse |
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| 02:07.56 | cef | nvz: well, if it's that shitty, you shouldn't be using the mouse in the first place.. *grin* |
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| 02:08.17 | Thetan7 | somiaj : it does work well, I have used that before 5 years. |
| 02:08.27 | Thetan7 | somiaj : and now I see it works with xscreensaver perfectly. |
| 02:08.28 | nvz | cef: yeah but some old pc2 sockets will do that shit when you try hot plugging |
| 02:08.33 | bullseye | somiaj: when i search for det dependencies like apt-cache search rhytmbox i find it but when i type apt-get install gnome it dosent ??? |
| 02:08.35 | somiaj | Thetan7: all I know is gdm did that all automatically, I would hit a 'launch another login', it would lock the screen my current screen and then give me another login, that would terminate as soon as they loged out, and if they tried to switch to the vt my X was running it would require a password, was just courious if I could do a similar thing with xdm |
| 02:08.45 | bullseye | somiaj: sory |
| 02:08.50 | Thetan7 | somiaj : you run first X in any way, xscreensaver, switch to console: startx -- :1 and there you are. |
| 02:09.03 | cef | nvz: hrm.. not my experience, but hey |
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| 02:09.24 | quitte | how can i measure the time a command takes for executing? |
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| 02:09.31 | nsj_ | A stop-watch? |
| 02:09.32 | Thetan7 | quitte time cmd |
| 02:09.42 | mickeyks | does xvt use vt100-nav or vt100-w-nam |
| 02:09.50 | bullseye | somiaj: do i need to install the dependencies before i install gnome |
| 02:09.55 | somiaj | bullseye: I heard ya, no need to repeate...maybe try to install parts of the gnome instead of the whole psudo package, apt-get install gnome-session gnome-pannel nautilus sawfish-gnome |
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| 02:10.06 | quitte | Thetan7 thanks. can i use that for a list of commands, too. separated by ;? |
| 02:10.19 | Thetan7 | quitte sure. |
| 02:10.25 | nvz | cef: my mobo is AT/Serial Keyboard, and USB/Serial Mouse on the workstation and this text console is just AT/Serial keyboard |
| 02:10.38 | somiaj | bullseye: you shouldn't gnome is just a meta package that depends on all the gnome stuff, but if its not working maybe what I told ya would work better. |
| 02:10.49 | sodas | how muhc is an OUNCE In metric? |
| 02:10.51 | somiaj | Thetan7: cool, that will work, thanks for your time...(: |
| 02:11.00 | cef | nvz: you have my condolances |
| 02:11.02 | bullseye | somiaj: ok |
| 02:11.04 | kill-9 | sodas google.com |
| 02:11.14 | jbr | sodas: apt-get install units |
| 02:11.16 | nvz | sodas: wtf is a OUNCE? and whats that got to do with the /topic? |
| 02:11.18 | deceiver | Hello. I want to install Debian another computer, but it doesn't have a floppy drive and it can't boot from cd-rom. Can I attach its hard drive to the one I'm using and copy my kernel files onto it to install Debian? |
| 02:11.41 | deceiver | . . . and make that HD bootable? |
| 02:11.53 | pop09897 | o |
| 02:12.03 | prock | are there (decent) alternatives to xmms? |
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| 02:12.22 | nvz | prock: cplay is awesome IMO but its python/curses |
| 02:12.23 | deceiver | prock: xine, gnome-xine |
| 02:12.29 | bur[n]er | prock: beep-media-player |
| 02:12.32 | jbr | deceiver: don't try it with only the kernel, but the transplant approach works, yes |
| 02:12.48 | deceiver | jbr: how do I "transplant?" |
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| 02:13.00 | Thetan7 | deceiver better dettach floppy and attach it until you install it. |
| 02:13.02 | deceiver | (I feel like a doctor already) |
| 02:13.15 | jbr | deceiver: install base system on (a partition of) the hd, switch back |
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| 02:13.35 | Thetan7 | deceiver 2 disks with the floppy and network and you get it installed. |
| 02:14.07 | deceiver | jbr: so I can't just issue commands from here to the partition on the second hard drive? Like when you make a "system format" on a floppy |
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| 02:14.36 | deceiver | Thetan7: no network either, floppy doesn't work |
| 02:14.38 | Francisco | How can I configure the X Server? |
| 02:14.59 | nvz | Francisco: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
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| 02:15.08 | Francisco | thanks |
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| 02:15.23 | jbr | deceiver: you can, sure... chroot install |
| 02:15.47 | nsj_ | prock: What are your specific problems with xmms? |
| 02:15.47 | T_VoiD | real stuff. did you already? |
| 02:15.48 | jbr | deceiver: never tried it quite like that |
| 02:15.51 | T_VoiD | misstell |
| 02:15.54 | Segers_J | Thetan7: nsj_: found the problem. the problem was in the makefile. it called ld with -ltk debian uses -ltk8.3 to specify. Thanks bunches, I had no clue where to begin looking. |
| 02:15.55 | cef | postfix/SASL on debian q: I can use testsaslauthd fine and auth, but postfix drops connections and logs "fatal: no SASL authentication mechanisms". Google doesn't seem to be any help. lists lots of people getting the problem, but not much on resolution. postfix howto's have been useless too. Anyone? |
| 02:16.09 | deceiver | jbr: I just want to have the internet while I'm doing it just in case . . . |
| 02:16.17 | quitte | how can i disable console blanking? |
| 02:16.24 | Francisco | I got an strange error, debian:~# dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 02:16.24 | Francisco | /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xserver-xfree86 is not fully installed |
| 02:16.24 | Francisco | debian:~# |
| 02:16.26 | nvz | quitte: setterm -blank 0 |
| 02:16.30 | jbr | quitte: in X? xset -dpms |
| 02:16.38 | quitte | nvz merci |
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| 02:16.47 | sodas | How would I downgrade a package.. lets say I have Testing openoffice installed, how would I downgrade it and install Stable openoffice? (Just an example), can anybody point me to something |
| 02:17.00 | prock | nsj_: just looking to try something different; I'm growing less appreciative of xmms's attitude towards disregarding my window manager |
| 02:17.02 | nvz | quitte: for VC in 1 2 3 4 5 6; do setterm -blank 0 > /dev/tty$VC |
| 02:17.08 | nvz | quitte: ;done |
| 02:17.14 | T_VoiD | Francisco: try this: dpkg --configure xserver-xfree86 (surely followed by an error anyways :) ) |
| 02:17.34 | deceiver | jbr: chroot? are you sure? |
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| 02:17.53 | jbr | deceiver: no, it's all wild rumour |
| 02:17.58 | T_VoiD | ryan_: so do you have spare storage somewhere? |
| 02:18.02 | Francisco | Hmm |
| 02:18.11 | Francisco | Do you think I should install Xserver? |
| 02:18.12 | VChriZZ | hi |
| 02:18.12 | bur[n]er | prock: beep-media-player is like the xmms, but it's gtk2 and it's more developed :) still looks like winamp though |
| 02:18.15 | jbr | deceiver: but I know you can install onto a second hard drive |
| 02:18.19 | bur[n]er | prock: also, it will support gnomevfs soon |
| 02:18.22 | deceiver | jbr: I'll just do cd-rom install from this computer |
| 02:18.31 | T_VoiD | ryan_: or a 2nd computer? |
| 02:18.32 | VChriZZ | Francisco: apt-get install xdm icewm |
| 02:18.33 | VChriZZ | :) |
| 02:18.45 | jbr | deceiver: simplest really if you've got CDs |
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| 02:19.02 | Francisco | Thanks Vchri :D |
| 02:19.06 | Thetan7 | deceiver I would rather put CD onto that other computer. In that way you setup all drivers correctly. |
| 02:19.16 | T_VoiD | ryan_: with a 2nd computer and irc (and /dcc ) if you kept a root console open there would even be hope hehe |
| 02:19.32 | VChriZZ | erm, what cd burning software do i need to burn iso-files? |
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| 02:19.47 | Francisco | Default display manager "xdm" ? |
| 02:19.53 | Francisco | or kdm |
| 02:19.54 | Francisco | ? |
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| 02:19.57 | prock | bur[n]er: ** ERROR **: file pango-layout.c: line 2938 (pango_layout_check_lines) |
| 02:20.00 | bur[n]er | VChriZZ: if you want a nice gui for it, i'd suggest k3b |
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| 02:20.18 | bur[n]er | prock: using apt?!? |
| 02:20.21 | prock | bur[n]er: not exactly what I was hoping for :( |
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| 02:20.35 | bur[n]er | ti works perfectly for me |
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| 02:20.41 | prock | bur[n]er: no, that's beep-media-player after trying to load a shoutcast .pls |
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| 02:20.48 | Francisco | Ummm |
| 02:20.52 | Francisco | here it stalls, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xserverrc: /usr/bin/X11/X: No such file or directory |
| 02:20.52 | nsj_ | Has anyone compiled lspci for Windows? Need to find out chipset of my wifi card, and WIndows isn't coming forward with the info |
| 02:20.52 | Francisco | /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xserverrc: exec: /usr/bin/X11/X: cannot execute: No such file or directory |
| 02:20.53 | bur[n]er | oh, sorry |
| 02:21.05 | VChriZZ | bur[n]er: ok, thx |
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| 02:21.11 | jbr | nsj: tomsrtbt? |
| 02:21.11 | bur[n]er | nsj_: what kinda wi-fi card is it? |
| 02:21.14 | VChriZZ | Francisco: startx |
| 02:21.20 | bharath | I am getting this error whenever I boot anyone know what vould be the problem |
| 02:21.22 | flugh | hmm, i did an nmap -sS on my stable box, it's no longer responding. |
| 02:21.28 | Francisco | I did it |
| 02:21.30 | Francisco | stalls |
| 02:21.31 | flugh | guess it will be an interesting morning at the office |
| 02:21.47 | bharath | EXT2-fs warning (device hde5): ext_fill_super: mounting ext3 filesystem as ext2 |
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| 02:22.19 | Francisco | doing apt-get install x-window-system to see if it works |
| 02:22.26 | jbr | nsj: (http://www.toms.net/rb/) |
| 02:22.33 | dondelelcaro | bharath: you have an ext3 filesystem listed as ext2 in fstab. |
| 02:22.40 | VChriZZ | Francisco: apt-get install xserver-xfree86 |
| 02:22.45 | flaco | hi... wich program is good for cd burning?? |
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| 02:22.52 | dondelelcaro | flaco: cdrecord. |
| 02:22.53 | Thetan7 | flaco one good one: cdrecord |
| 02:22.53 | bharath | dondelelcaro: no it isnt its a ext3 filesystem for sure |
| 02:22.57 | dodgyville_ | T_VoiD: dodgyville is dead |
| 02:23.04 | T_VoiD | ok |
| 02:23.06 | flaco | but.. cdrecord is only for console? |
| 02:23.10 | Francisco | VChriZZ: it installs it too ;) |
| 02:23.20 | dondelelcaro | bharath: again, you're _mounting_ an *ext3* filesystem as if it were *ext2* |
| 02:23.21 | T_VoiD | dodgyville_: so that was just a dns problem. did you use pppconfig to configure your irda ppp ? |
| 02:23.41 | bur[n]er | flaco: if you want a gui.... k3b |
| 02:23.45 | VChriZZ | Francisco: what error do you get? |
| 02:23.46 | bharath | its my root partition and fstab says ext3 :( |
| 02:23.47 | dondelelcaro | bharath: that's because you've listed the filesystem as ext3 in fstab. |
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| 02:24.00 | dondelelcaro | bharath: well, then you don't have ext3 support, or something else is screwed. |
| 02:24.02 | flaco | pero k3b.. is for only kde..?? |
| 02:24.03 | Francisco | X server not installed, what I see |
| 02:24.13 | Thetan7 | bharath than it is not prepared as ext3. something is missing, maybe journal file. |
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| 02:24.23 | debian | flaco: not really. |
| 02:24.26 | GAP | how do I unpack a file ending with ..tar.gz ? |
| 02:24.27 | bharath | dondelelcaro: it loads the partitions which are ext3 like my /boot /var |
| 02:24.34 | VChriZZ | bur[n]er: [00:28:39] <-- Peanut hat sich getrennt (Connection reset by peer) |
| 02:24.36 | VChriZZ | ups |
| 02:24.42 | bharath | Thetan7: I used mkfs.ext3 to create the filesystem |
| 02:24.47 | prock | bur[n]er: btw, what does vfs do? |
| 02:24.48 | debian | flaco: you just got a bunch of k libs running k stuffs in gnome, and vice versa |
| 02:24.48 | VChriZZ | bur[n]er: E: Couldn't find package k3b |
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| 02:24.55 | prock | dpkg vfs |
| 02:24.55 | jbr | GAP: tar -xvzf <outputfile> <inputfile> |
| 02:24.55 | dpkg | vfs is probably virtual filesystem |
| 02:24.59 | T_VoiD | was somebody speaking to ryan_ ? got an idea to restore his /lib dir on the fly :) |
| 02:25.01 | flaco | ok |
| 02:25.12 | obtix | i just installed through deb packages gtk2-themes and engine, now what do i do? |
| 02:25.12 | GAP | jbr: ok |
| 02:25.12 | debian | !find k3b |
| 02:25.14 | dpkg | Debian Package Listing of 'k3b' (4 shown): k3b ;; k3b-i18n ;; k3blibs ;; k3blibs-dev. |
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| 02:25.46 | jbr | GAP: read "info tar" (very long) |
| 02:25.55 | dondelelcaro | bharath: mount |grep ' / '; then grep '[[:space:]]\/[[:space:]]' /etc/fstab |
| 02:26.14 | Thetan7 | T_VoiD restoring /lib: I would ldd /bin/* /usr/bin/* /usr/X11/bin/* /usr/local/bin/* and would seek those libs and copy them back. |
| 02:26.15 | Nitrocld_ | Why would a printer work locally on USB, but not through samba to a windows 2000 computer, provided I'm using the same driver, just through samba? |
| 02:26.30 | dodgyville_ | T_VoiD: pppconfig does not have my irda connection in its list to edit |
| 02:26.37 | T_VoiD | Thetan7: without libc6 nothing works or almost... |
| 02:26.55 | prock | is there an lpc, lpr, and lpstat program for cupsys? |
| 02:26.57 | Thetan7 | T_VoiD someone could compile ldd maybe statically. |
| 02:27.09 | vanessa | niteroi |
| 02:27.12 | T_VoiD | Thetan7: but here's the idea: his irc is running, he can download with /dcc get . 1st thing to grab is a static shell for rescues (can't remember the package name) |
| 02:27.15 | VChriZZ | bur[n]er: http://www.apt-get.org/search.php?query=k3b&submit=&arch%5B%5D=i386&arch%5B%5D=all |
| 02:27.18 | GAP | jbr: thanks |
| 02:27.25 | Thetan7 | T_VoiD is it busybox? |
| 02:27.29 | jbr | T_VOid: sor ash? |
| 02:27.33 | jbr | T_VOid: or sash? |
| 02:27.37 | T_VoiD | sash right |
| 02:27.44 | vanessa | #niteroi join |
| 02:27.49 | T_VoiD | with sash you can ar x and tar x a .deb package i think |
| 02:27.51 | jbr | T_VOid: so rash? |
| 02:27.52 | Thetan7 | T_VoiD busybox-static |
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| 02:28.01 | Thetan7 | zsh-static |
| 02:28.14 | T_VoiD | Thetan7: are there tar gunzip and alike in it? |
| 02:28.19 | bharath | dondelelcaro: /dev/hde on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro) |
| 02:28.19 | Thetan7 | in buusybox there is dpkg already I think. |
| 02:28.27 | T_VoiD | Thetan7: sash is made for recovery purpose, not just to be static |
| 02:28.31 | Thetan7 | and simple wget, tar/ gzip etc. |
| 02:28.32 | bharath | the other one I get grep: Invalid character class name |
| 02:28.42 | T_VoiD | Thetan7: ok that works then |
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| 02:28.47 | pop09897 | how big is kde ? |
| 02:28.47 | pop09897 | and gnome |
| 02:28.50 | sgeigerbot | Why is the tripwire in Debian not statically compiled!!!??? |
| 02:28.52 | obake | 150mb +/- |
| 02:28.58 | obake | teh download |
| 02:29.02 | Thetan7 | T_VoiD those commands in busybox might give errors or segfaults if not used completely correctly. |
| 02:29.12 | obake | installed it's something about 250mb, 300mb (complete) |
| 02:29.18 | T_VoiD | then he /dcc get libc6.deb and untar it in /lib, with that he should recover a lot of cunctionality (after some symmlinks to set if ldd doesn't work) |
| 02:29.31 | tepperly | Is there a way to replace console-common 0.7.39 with 0.7.41? I am getting an exit 9. |
| 02:29.44 | T_VoiD | ff ldconfig doesn't i meant |
| 02:30.16 | prock | gxine is the winner! |
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| 02:30.29 | zignig | prock: ssh , hangover ;/ |
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| 02:30.46 | debian | sgeigerbot: license problem as I've been told |
| 02:30.48 | VChriZZ | Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 02:30.48 | VChriZZ | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:30.48 | VChriZZ | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:30.48 | VChriZZ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:30.54 | tepperly | I seem to be having the same bug as #244849. No solution is listed in the bug report. |
| 02:30.54 | Thetan7 | T_VoiD he can dcc the full, without having it packed. |
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| 02:30.59 | VChriZZ | shit |
| 02:31.05 | Nitrocld | Stupid windows |
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| 02:31.14 | T_VoiD | Thetan7: yep if he has a spare box |
| 02:31.17 | Nitrocld | I hate windows... it has to be all linux incompatible and shit |
| 02:31.18 | shadows | leaky faucet! |
| 02:31.24 | VChriZZ | lol Nitrocld... |
| 02:31.25 | T_VoiD | Thetan7: else, i don't want to do all the work for him :) |
| 02:31.29 | debian | Nitrocld: hehe |
| 02:31.34 | prock | zignig: ew |
| 02:31.56 | Francisco | Great |
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| 02:31.59 | Nitrocld | Windows would have to gunk up something like being a print server for linux |
| 02:32.02 | phxhawke | hello all, i seem to have an annoying little problem right now with firefox/thunderbird |
| 02:32.18 | VChriZZ | windows suck, im a "REAL" linux user... http://213.158.114.38/members/vchrizz/rdesktop.png |
| 02:32.26 | VChriZZ | lol :P |
| 02:32.38 | T_VoiD | Thetan7: too bad i didn't answer him that before anyways, sooner or later he'll quit and that will be too late |
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| 02:32.54 | lleandro | hi.. |
| 02:33.18 | Nitrocld | nice VChriZZ |
| 02:33.23 | lleandro | What is the name of the image of kernel 2.4.18 in the debian 3.0 cd? |
| 02:33.29 | Francisco | ok, now KDE Works, I would like to see the Debian Login Screen I had, how can I Install it? (It said Debian, and I was able to select Fluxbox, gnome, KDE desktops, etc..) |
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| 02:33.32 | zignig | clear |
| 02:33.48 | Thetan7 | T_VoiD it is already too late if he deleted /lib. Giving it back to him, does not solve. |
| 02:34.03 | Thetan7 | It is his problem which is solved by reading about basics. |
| 02:34.17 | T_VoiD | Thetan7: 1st thing to give is sash |
| 02:34.23 | Nitrocld | Francisco: that is a display manager, kdm, gdm, wdm and probably others let you select window managers from a list |
| 02:34.33 | T_VoiD | Thetan7: if he kept a root shell somewhere he can run sash then |
| 02:34.40 | Francisco | Nitro: Where can I modify the conf ? |
| 02:35.04 | VChriZZ | Nitrocld: im using xdm, and it doesnt show the window manager as selection |
| 02:35.14 | Nitrocld | Francisco: you have to install one of the display managers first |
| 02:35.20 | VolVE | hey all, I have an SMP system, and maybe this is a stupid question, but when I run top I don't see any distinction between the 2 CPUs... :-/ |
| 02:35.22 | Francisco | Oh, cool |
| 02:35.24 | Francisco | I have them |
| 02:35.25 | Francisco | :) |
| 02:35.32 | Nitrocld | VChriZZ: I know... that's why I didn't list xdm |
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| 02:35.40 | michaell | jbot:fuck you |
| 02:35.44 | sodas | Are USB2 devices backward compatible with USB1 motherboards? |
| 02:35.50 | michaell | yes |
| 02:35.50 | VolVE | As in, shouldn't I see "CPU 0" and "CPU 1" with different sets of loads being listed? :-/ |
| 02:36.05 | phxhawke | VolVE: you can. |
| 02:36.07 | michaell | nope |
| 02:36.07 | VChriZZ | Nitrocld: oh... hum, can i use another *dm with any window manager? |
| 02:36.16 | michaell | jbot: fuck you |
| 02:36.18 | Nitrocld | VolVE: cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 02:36.31 | Nitrocld | VChriZZ: sure |
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| 02:36.44 | VChriZZ | Nitrocld: i installed wdm, then icewm, but it automatically installed xdm :/ |
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| 02:37.02 | Nitrocld | VChriZZ: as root, dpkg-reconfigure wdm |
| 02:37.10 | phxhawke | VolVE: pressing 1 will give you separate loads |
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| 02:37.29 | VChriZZ | Nitrocld: dpkg-reconfigure wdm |
| 02:37.32 | VChriZZ | argl |
| 02:37.37 | VChriZZ | Nitrocld: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: wdm is broken or not fully installed |
| 02:37.37 | Justin | `Xenocide: "reportbug pysol" is arcane? |
| 02:37.46 | Nitrocld | VChriZZ: apt-get install wdm |
| 02:37.55 | sgeigerbot | I've used ssh-copy-id to allow me to log into several of my machines using a normal user (that has sudo access to root powers). Is there any reason why I shouldn't use ssh-copy-id as root? Is that a security issue? I'm asking because I need to run something as root on a remote machine, but I want to do it via a script that makes an SSH connection to that machine. |
| 02:37.59 | `Xenocide | Justin: possibly. |
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| 02:38.17 | `Xenocide | browsing the bts the problem seems to have been reported already |
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| 02:39.20 | VChriZZ | Nitrocld: Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 02:39.20 | VChriZZ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:39.47 | Nitrocld | VChriZZ: apt-get update then try again |
| 02:39.55 | VChriZZ | tried already |
| 02:40.06 | Nitrocld | VChriZZ: what branch are you using? |
| 02:40.17 | sgeigerbot | Why is the tripwire in Debian not statically compiled!!!??? |
| 02:40.18 | programmer1390 | HI everyone, I was wondering if anyone knew where I could get a pack of Linux distros for about $30 , I WANNA TRY ALL THE POPULAR ONES BUT I DONT WANN ABUY THEM SEPERATELY |
| 02:40.38 | VChriZZ | ive got www.backports.org/debian stable all in my sources.list after my stable lines ... |
| 02:40.46 | sgeigerbot | programmer1390: Why use Debian? Here's why: http://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian or at http://ext2.org/99/02/imoore2.html or at http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reviews/2204/1/ |
| 02:40.53 | rich_ | programmer1390 Get broadband, download them all in a few days |
| 02:40.55 | Husk1 | programmer1390: buy a phat pipe and download them all |
| 02:41.06 | programmer1390 | OK |
| 02:41.07 | zeeble | heh |
| 02:41.12 | Nitrocld | programmer1390: use someone else's pipe and download them all |
| 02:41.14 | Justin | VChriZZ: don't do that |
| 02:41.18 | programmer1390 | ah |
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| 02:41.19 | zeeble | I want a fat pipe too |
| 02:41.22 | jbr | VChriZZ: stable wdm is 1.20-15, testing is 1.26-1 |
| 02:41.27 | VolVE | phxhawke: hmm, I'll try |
| 02:41.30 | VChriZZ | programmer1390: www.linuxiso.org |
| 02:41.31 | VChriZZ | :) |
| 02:41.41 | Husk1 | programmer1390: drive around the CBD and look for open access-points |
| 02:41.51 | sgeigerbot | programmer1390: You are a newbie. Admit it. Learn one distro well. Learn a good one. Shop before you buy--that is, read about them before you choose. It's dumb to learn the disto-specific stuff if you aren't going to use the distro later. There is too much to learn--don't waste your time learning stuff you aren't going to use. |
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| 02:41.53 | phxhawke | VolVE: top? |
| 02:42.05 | VolVE | phxhawke: top, yes - pressing l turns off the load display :-/ |
| 02:42.20 | phxhawke | not l, the number 1 :) |
| 02:42.27 | programmer1390 | I wrote down a list of 250 Linux distros today! |
| 02:42.40 | Nitrocld | programmer1390: why? |
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| 02:42.48 | rich_ | programmer1390: yea might as well try each oue a litt. Maybe use it to download the next. |
| 02:42.52 | sgeigerbot | Nitrocld: He's a newbie/ |
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| 02:42.59 | Nitrocld | sgeigerbot: yes he is |
| 02:43.03 | programmer1390 | I wanna try all of em out! he he |
| 02:43.05 | rich_ | try each one a little before getting the next |
| 02:43.09 | programmer1390 | you assume that |
| 02:43.11 | programmer1390 | how> |
| 02:43.17 | VolVE | phxhawke: when top is running, it has no idea what 1 means :-/ |
| 02:43.25 | VolVE | "Unknown command" |
| 02:43.35 | sgeigerbot | rich_: or else get 250 ocmputers and try them all at the same time. |
| 02:43.36 | zeeble | cafuego grab today's evolution1.5. 1.5.7 today :) and that stupid contacts problem has been solved |
| 02:43.39 | Nitrocld | programmer1390: there are 1 dozen or fewer distros that are worth trying if you aren't a serious developer |
| 02:43.51 | sodas | what was the name of that nifty digital camera sofware, FPHOTO? |
| 02:43.53 | Husk1 | VolVE: a decent font would reveal he said L not 1 |
| 02:43.55 | sgeigerbot | Nitrocld: fewer. |
| 02:44.12 | inkedmn | sgeigerbot: agreed |
| 02:44.20 | sgeigerbot | phxhawke: be more specific about "checking for orbit" |
| 02:44.22 | phxhawke | Husk1 not L the number one |
| 02:44.35 | VolVE | Husk1: I tried 1 and thought I must have read it wrong considering it generates an "Unknown command" message from top, but yeah, thanks for the advice |
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| 02:44.54 | rich_ | sgeigerbot well I think that if you get one, install it and use it to get the next by the time your done youll have a pretty good idea about what you want. But I assumed that you would be playing with it while its downloading in the background |
| 02:45.06 | VolVE | phxhawke: so... in short, 1 would normall do what now? :( |
| 02:45.08 | phxhawke | sgeigerbot: it hangs on a socket in my /tmp/orbit-hawke/ directory. |
| 02:45.16 | sgeigerbot | rich_: You are a programmer, aren't you? |
| 02:45.32 | phxhawke | VolVE: let you see between single/SMP cpu loads |
| 02:45.42 | sgeigerbot | rich_: Or a troll. |
| 02:45.44 | Husk1 | ah |
| 02:45.56 | VolVE | phxhawke: any idea why my top thinks 1 means nothing ? :-/ |
| 02:45.59 | zeeble | Anyone here has a Canon EOS 300D/10D camera? is it possible to connect to a linux machine and transfer images? |
| 02:46.05 | rich_ | sgeigerbot no, just a hobyist. Ive learned to program in college classes but never done it professionally. |
| 02:46.07 | VolVE | "top (procps version 2.0.7)" |
| 02:46.16 | sgeigerbot | rich_: okay, then, a troll. |
| 02:46.19 | sgeigerbot | ;-) |
| 02:46.39 | phxhawke | VolVE: what version of debian are you using by any chance? |
| 02:46.51 | jbr | VolVe: Testing procps=3.2.0-1 |
| 02:46.53 | programmer1390 | Im a professional Java Developer and im just trying to get in to take the developers exam |
| 02:47.00 | VolVE | phxhawke: Woody r3 |
| 02:47.05 | rich_ | sgeigerbot I was just trying to convince him to not download a bunch of stuff he could never use. One at a time is better |
| 02:47.06 | programmer1390 | seems hard but so was the programmers |
| 02:47.14 | VolVE | phxhawke: (stable) |
| 02:47.27 | VolVE | how annoying |
| 02:47.29 | Nitrocld | programmer1390: how old are you? |
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| 02:47.49 | programmer1390 | 27 |
| 02:47.53 | programmer1390 | why? |
| 02:47.59 | Nitrocld | HOLY... |
| 02:48.12 | zeeble | heh |
| 02:48.24 | Nitrocld | You are old and feeble now aren't you? |
| 02:48.29 | sgeigerbot | programmer1390: liar. |
| 02:48.39 | VolVE | apparently I'm not alone: http://lists.debian.org/debian-testing/2002/debian-testing-200204/msg00083.html |
| 02:48.50 | Thetan7 | T_VoiD i can send if you let me know what. |
| 02:49.04 | JB318 | Quick tips on configuring CUPS to use LPD to talk to a network printer? |
| 02:49.06 | phxhawke | okay, brb. i'm going to log out and back in to see if i can fix a little problem... |
| 02:49.24 | Nitrocld | JB318: use the web interface |
| 02:49.27 | VolVE | of course, no follow-ups, damnit |
| 02:49.46 | Nitrocld | programmer1390: why are you on dialup? |
| 02:49.48 | JB318 | Nitrocld: Need to know the URL to provide for my printer. Borrowing their examples doesn't seem to work. |
| 02:49.48 | debian | VolVE: it proves that you're alone in this lonely world |
| 02:50.04 | programmer1390 | What the |
| 02:50.07 | Nitrocld | JB318: what kind of printer? |
| 02:50.14 | programmer1390 | Why Am I a Liar, im not dumb |
| 02:50.23 | JB318 | Nitrocld: Minolta magicolor 2300DL |
| 02:50.56 | VolVE | debian: yay! |
| 02:51.05 | VolVE | debian: And I just watched Donnie Darko, how apt! |
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| 02:51.15 | Nitrocld | programmer1390: define, OOP, DOM, and IDE |
| 02:51.18 | sgeigerbot | When you download Debian source packages, how do you verify the tar.gz file with the .dsc file? |
| 02:51.32 | JB318 | OK, managed to google up to try default queue "lp" in my URL, which is doing something different, at least |
| 02:51.47 | debian | sgeigerbot: doesn't all just ./configure && make all install as root just like me? |
| 02:51.50 | programmer1390 | I reaObject Oriented Programming, Document Object Model, Intergrated Development Enviroment |
| 02:51.51 | Justin | sgeigerbot: cat *dsc, read |
| 02:51.57 | T_VoiD | Thetan7: well he doesn't seem to come back :/ you'd have to install the sash package and send him /bin/sash, then on a opened shell he runs /bin/sash (if he didn't keep a shell open he's really lost). and from this shell he gets the commands with a "-" in front:cd /tùmp ; -ar x libc6something.deb ; -unzip data.tar.gz ; cd / ; -tar xf /tmp/data.tar |
| 02:52.00 | programmer1390 | HA! |
| 02:52.08 | sgeigerbot | debian: what? |
| 02:52.24 | T_VoiD | Thetan7: of course you send the libc6something.deb and correct my typos :) |
| 02:52.43 | Nitrocld | programmer1390: you have verified either A. you can google, B. you are at least 12, or C. you can yahoo |
| 02:52.43 | debian | sgeigerbot: I trust everything pull from apt-get source! :) |
| 02:52.46 | sgeigerbot | Justin: Okay...so I haven't dealt with that before... |
| 02:52.51 | programmer1390 | Object Oriented Programming, Document Object Model, Intergrated Development Enviroment |
| 02:52.52 | T_VoiD | Thetan7: btw he'd run /tmp/sash of course :) |
| 02:52.55 | Thetan7 | T_VoiD well ok. I am on woody, just that you know. if there is something to send, let me know. |
| 02:53.00 | sgeigerbot | Justin: ...so, is there an automated way to check the sums? |
| 02:53.09 | Justin | sgeigerbot: probably |
| 02:53.09 | programmer1390 | No seriosuly why the hell dont yall beleive me |
| 02:53.17 | sgeigerbot | Justin: ...and the gpg signature? |
| 02:53.20 | Nitrocld | programmer1390: your grammer and typing skills? |
| 02:53.23 | Nitrocld | grammer |
| 02:53.25 | programmer1390 | dang |
| 02:53.27 | Nitrocld | grammar |
| 02:53.28 | programmer1390 | oh ha |
| 02:53.37 | Nitrocld | damn lazy fingers |
| 02:53.42 | programmer1390 | yeah I do suck at typing except when i want to look good |
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| 02:54.04 | Nitrocld | Eclipse is what? |
| 02:54.10 | rich_ | programmer1390 I dont see why it matters if anyone believes you but its best to at least install each linux to make sure it can work before you add it to your collection. |
| 02:54.10 | programmer1390 | Yeah I do suck at typing, except when I want to look good. |
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| 02:54.20 | programmer1390 | ha ok |
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| 02:54.59 | programmer1390 | I think I will try Debian out first. |
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| 02:55.15 | Nitrocld | programmer1390: have you had any linux experience |
| 02:55.25 | programmer1390 | Sorry to say, No |
| 02:55.46 | programmer1390 | But im on Windows ME so im willing to learn :) |
| 02:55.52 | rich_ | debian is a good way to start because they dont have a lot of junk that prevents you from doing things the old fashioned way. |
| 02:56.09 | Nitrocld | programmer1390: why are you using dialup? |
| 02:56.19 | ClonedMule | It's an excellent trial by fire =D |
| 02:56.21 | programmer1390 | Why not? |
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| 02:56.34 | Nitrocld | programmer1390: it is slow |
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| 02:56.48 | ClonedMule | programmer1390 before you take the plunge, make sure you don't have a winmodem. |
| 02:57.00 | programmer1390 | Yeah I know, im thinking of getting RoadRunner |
| 02:57.04 | programmer1390 | Oh |
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| 02:57.11 | ClonedMule | programmer 1390: It can change your linux experience from happyness to pain |
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| 02:57.37 | programmer1390 | Yeah I tried running Linux (RH9) with my modem, it was the only thing not compatible |
| 02:57.40 | ClonedMule | Although serial modems (I use one meself) are 60 bucks and work beatifully with all distro's =D |
| 02:57.45 | rich_ | ClonedMule red hat is like pulling teeth and slackware Id call trial by fire. But debian seems to me dependable and stable, just what a beginer needs most. Predictability. |
| 02:57.48 | phxhawke | okay, lets try this again... |
| 02:58.05 | ClonedMule | rich_ Well... the _install_ is a trial by fire :P |
| 02:58.11 | Nitrocld | programmer1390: many modems are NOT linux compat, being that most modems are WinModems and not really modems |
| 02:58.14 | ClonedMule | rich_ If something goes wrong. |
| 02:58.40 | rich_ | ClonedMule in red hat the clicking on this menu to get to that window is like pulling teeth. Just like os/2 |
| 02:58.56 | programmer1390 | I don't like Red Hat though, but is's the only one I trie, it seemed really slow even after I turned off all the services and I'm too lazy to insall Gentoo |
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| 02:59.17 | ClonedMule | Gentoo on dial-up? |
| 02:59.21 | ClonedMule | *shudder* |
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| 02:59.39 | rich_ | programmer1390 good instinct. leave gentoo for last, because it will take a long time. |
| 02:59.44 | zeeble | programmer1390 what's your comp specs? |
| 02:59.54 | rms124 | anyone have experience with doing project presentations? |
| 02:59.54 | phxhawke | grrss at the fun unresponsive daemons bring.... |
| 03:00.00 | Justin | s/on dial-up?// :-) |
| 03:00.02 | programmer1390 | 1.8 Athlon 512 Mb Ram |
| 03:00.02 | ClonedMule | programmer1390 Debian is nice and speedy- especially if you use a good lighweight wm like fluxbox. |
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| 03:00.18 | zeeble | programmer1390 wow. redhat was slow on that? |
| 03:00.26 | zeeble | heh |
| 03:00.35 | programmer1390 | Yeah, I don't know why |
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| 03:00.47 | Thetan7 | icewm |
| 03:00.50 | programmer1390 | Im ordering the Debian CD's now |
| 03:00.53 | Thetan7 | the fastest. |
| 03:00.55 | ClonedMule | Mmm... what's your video card? |
| 03:00.59 | ClonedMule | heh |
| 03:01.08 | programmer1390 | ATI RADEON 9000 |
| 03:01.11 | ClonedMule | I vote for fluxbox... |
| 03:01.15 | rich_ | programmer1390 I like fvwm, it has all the neat unix window manager features and none of the annoying redundant windows one. All the comfort and less mess. |
| 03:01.18 | zeeble | Thetan7 xfce4? |
| 03:01.23 | programmer1390 | A little old but not intergrated |
| 03:01.29 | Guerin | I vote for xfce4 too |
| 03:01.36 | Thetan7 | xfce4 I didn't see but I know that previous one blocks the sound. |
| 03:01.40 | rich_ | its just big enough |
| 03:01.42 | Justin | 9000 is old? I have a 7000 and it's plenty fast |
| 03:01.43 | Guerin | it's awesome |
| 03:01.48 | programmer1390 | I heard XFCE was fast and lightweight |
| 03:01.51 | Thetan7 | anyway, my combination is ROX which rocks and icewm. |
| 03:01.51 | chuotcon | install openbox |
| 03:02.02 | ClonedMule | ati radeon? They're supported... especially in a distro like redhat you'd expect it to be speedy.. |
| 03:02.02 | chuotcon | openbox kicks ass ;p |
| 03:02.07 | ClonedMule | I've tried ROX |
| 03:02.11 | ClonedMule | it's... cumbersome |
| 03:02.17 | zeeble | ion2? |
| 03:02.26 | programmer1390 | Well My Site, www.onealdevzone.com , im selling a computer with a 9600 SE, I suck at Web Design as you see though |
| 03:02.26 | Justin | ion2 rocks :-) |
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| 03:02.53 | Thetan7 | are you from Texas? |
| 03:03.03 | programmer1390 | Yep |
| 03:03.05 | zeeble | ion2 on a laptop just rocks |
| 03:03.19 | IRP | vsftpd or proftpd?? what you prefer and why? |
| 03:03.40 | Thetan7 | ftpd the standard one is I think derived from OpenBSD ftpd. |
| 03:03.47 | v_2 | proftpd, there must be a reason for kernel.org to run it |
| 03:03.47 | zeeble | IRP vsftpd's easy |
| 03:03.50 | Justin | !+info bsd-ftpd |
| 03:03.51 | dpkg | Package 'bsd-ftpd' does not exist. |
| 03:03.56 | Justin | hmm |
| 03:04.00 | dan2 | !+info ftpd-bsd |
| 03:04.00 | bob2 | is there a DSA yet? |
| 03:04.02 | dpkg | Package 'ftpd-bsd' does not exist. |
| 03:04.02 | phxhawke | all this talk of WM's is making me want to read my book on Xlib again... |
| 03:04.09 | dan2 | !find ftp bsd |
| 03:04.18 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'ftp bsd' returned no results. |
| 03:04.22 | Thetan7 | bsd-ftpd |
| 03:04.22 | v_2 | sure, write your own |
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| 03:04.27 | v_2 | there's a shortage of WMs |
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| 03:04.50 | programmer1390 | Hey, Im sort of scared yall, am I going to get sued over this SCO stuff id I buy Debian? |
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| 03:05.12 | Nitrocld | programmer1390: first, SCO cannot sue if they win |
| 03:05.20 | Nitrocld | programmer1390: secondly, Debian is free |
| 03:05.22 | Thetan7 | Version 6.4/OpenBSD/Linux-ftpd-0.17 - this shows up with default install. |
| 03:05.37 | programmer1390 | I don't want to be holding illeagal code though, isn't that what they are saying |
| 03:05.38 | dan2 | bob2: hey |
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| 03:05.59 | ClonedMule | I think he means he's ordering cd's from cheapiso.com or something... |
| 03:06.02 | dan2 | programmer1390: no, and you don't need to buy debian, just download an iso |
| 03:06.04 | ClonedMule | Don't worry about sco |
| 03:06.13 | ClonedMule | Their case is fading :P |
| 03:06.18 | zeeble | Wish someone made a .deb of nice background/wallpaper imgs |
| 03:06.20 | bob2 | dan2: hi. |
| 03:06.21 | programmer1390 | I don't download ISO's |
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| 03:06.27 | dan2 | programmer1390: SCO is dieing in court right now |
| 03:06.28 | bob2 | programmer1390: don't be stupid. |
| 03:06.33 | programmer1390 | Im on DialUp |
| 03:06.34 | numist | programmer1390: downloading ISOs are the best way to go |
| 03:06.36 | numist | ah |
| 03:06.44 | numist | programmer1390: how are you getting the cds then? |
| 03:06.47 | programmer1390 | Well i have not researched the story much |
| 03:06.52 | Thetan7 | numist the best way to go is to download 2 floppies and install from network. |
| 03:06.58 | dan2 | programmer1390: cheapbytes.com is probably good |
| 03:06.59 | programmer1390 | Edmund_Enterprises |
| 03:07.04 | Thetan7 | numist why 650 MB if maybe only 100 MB are enough?! |
| 03:07.05 | programmer1390 | yeah |
| 03:07.07 | Nitrocld | programmer1390: SCO cannot win, they are only suing over use of System V interprocess comms, which can be turned off in kernel compile |
| 03:07.07 | numist | Thetan7: true... |
| 03:07.15 | bob2 | no, downloading ISOs is stupid |
| 03:07.24 | dan2 | bob2: hehe |
| 03:07.37 | Husk1 | its only stupid because bob2 cant do it :) |
| 03:07.44 | jbr | zeeble: apt-get search themes? |
| 03:07.45 | zeeble | true. unless you are on a fast connection and waqnt to burn and distribute to people |
| 03:07.49 | rms124 | i like downloading the net-install isos |
| 03:07.50 | bob2 | oi! |
| 03:07.57 | Nitrocld | oil |
| 03:07.57 | bob2 | I have uni, pete and mase :P |
| 03:08.00 | quitte_ | oh no. then dosemu won't run. ...oh i never used it. never mind :) |
| 03:08.15 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | I'm baaaack |
| 03:08.39 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | it's beaten me :-( |
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| 03:08.40 | OwlManAtt | Hey, I just reinstalled debian on one of my boxen after a comprimise and I was going through the active services and turning them off. An nmap localhost reveals some services, but I'm having trouble with one. 'Kerberos'. I can't find a man page for it, I can't find a way to turn it off, and I can't seem to apt-get remove it either. Anyone have any pointers that might help me? |
| 03:08.45 | programmer1390 | I downloaded DSL I think then the horrible screen came up and FORMAT - REINSTALL- BEEP |
| 03:09.00 | bob2 | OwlManAtt: run "netstat -puant" |
| 03:09.03 | kil03 | apt-get remove 'cat removed.txt | awk '{print $1}' | xargs' |
| 03:09.10 | kil03 | how do i get that right? '' are wrong |
| 03:09.16 | programmer1390 | Is DSL any good? |
| 03:09.17 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | have to be up for work in 3 hours |
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| 03:09.19 | bob2 | OwlManAtt: and see what program it is. then use "dpkg -S" to find which package it is. |
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| 03:09.46 | kil03 | how do i use double quotes? |
| 03:09.47 | Eran | how do I unpack a .deb file? |
| 03:09.48 | phxhawke | programmer1390: oh yeah. i love my dsl :) |
| 03:09.54 | dan2 | bob2: dlocate gets much better performance |
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| 03:10.01 | peterS | Eran: install it with 'dpkg -i' |
| 03:10.06 | Husk1 | kil03: the pipes are inside the quotes |
| 03:10.07 | blazzy | if i automate apt-get update and apt-get upgrade for a system running stable, can i expect it not to pop up any dialogs and such for user input? |
| 03:10.16 | peterS | Eran: of if you *really* need to unpack, not install, it, use 'dpkg-deb --unpack filename.deb .' |
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| 03:10.21 | debian | OwlManAtt: fuser -n tcp <processs id> |
| 03:10.28 | programmer1390 | You go to work at 1:00 ? or are you like somewhere totally away from where I am? :) |
| 03:10.38 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | UK |
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| 03:10.44 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | wake up at 7 |
| 03:10.52 | Eran | peterS: ok thx |
| 03:10.57 | jbr | programmer1390: there are whole countries full of us |
| 03:10.58 | programmer1390 | oh ok |
| 03:11.08 | kil03 | umm yea i know the piping is inside the quotes, but how do i get the quotes around {print $1} |
| 03:11.15 | OwlManAtt | debian: it isn't in the process list, so I don't know the process id. |
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| 03:11.19 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | jbr:apparently so :) |
| 03:11.19 | programmer1390 | lol well ok, Have any of yall tried DarkBasic? |
| 03:11.24 | hyde | blazzy, you'd probably want to auto download only and then manually do the updates |
| 03:11.38 | Nitrocld | programmer1390: what's that |
| 03:11.44 | debian | OwlManAtt: or sorry, <port no.> even |
| 03:12.00 | OwlManAtt | Ah, I found it. It's part of roc.statd. |
| 03:12.02 | OwlManAtt | Thanks. |
| 03:12.03 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | programming language |
| 03:12.11 | debian | OwlManAtt: rpc |
| 03:12.21 | Nitrocld | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY: No? |
| 03:12.22 | debian | OwlManAtt: nfs thingy |
| 03:12.23 | ClonedMule | Isn't it specifically dedicated to game devel or something similiar? |
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| 03:12.24 | programmer1390 | Its a programming language designed specifically for games, really easy but its kind of funny because if you make an installation program in it you have to have DX9 |
| 03:12.31 | programmer1390 | game |
| 03:12.39 | OwlManAtt | debian: Yeah. Thanks. |
| 03:12.47 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | heh |
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| 03:12.56 | ClonedMule | Sounds... difficult to port... ;) |
| 03:13.05 | programmer1390 | Will I be able to run Battlefield Vietnam using Wine? |
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| 03:13.34 | zeeble | LDAP is port 28, right? |
| 03:13.56 | Nitrocld | programmer1390: if you have a cray sitting around |
| 03:13.56 | v_2 | no, doubya ported it just fine to iraq |
| 03:13.56 | programmer1390 | I need to use some DirectX things on Linux, I hope I can |
| 03:14.00 | pop09897 | ios |
| 03:14.02 | pop09897 | iso |
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| 03:14.11 | programmer1390 | he ok |
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| 03:14.16 | Nitrocld | programmer1390: like what? |
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| 03:14.24 | phxhawke | okay, there we go... switch to using kopete instead of xchat for now.... |
| 03:14.33 | rms124 | bitchx |
| 03:14.45 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | what's a cray? |
| 03:14.54 | rich_ | programmer1390 wine is very active. I havent used it in a long time because unix games and apps are better but I have used it and found that well, it could run excell, but not the current excell. It could run word but not the current word. So from this Id make a generalisation that if it does not support your favorite windows app, it will soon enough. And ussually doesnt turn blue like windows. |
| 03:15.01 | phxhawke | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY: Supercomputer usually |
| 03:15.08 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | ta |
| 03:15.18 | jbr | zeeble: 28? "getent services ldap" says 389 |
| 03:15.35 | blazzy | hyde, i was hoping i could set up a simple desktop system that required next to 0 intervention on my part |
| 03:15.54 | programmer1390 | Well see im also studying web design, so im going to need to make use of Flash and all the new Macromedia products, I may just use GRUB |
| 03:16.05 | ClonedMule | Grub? |
| 03:16.11 | ClonedMule | Grub is a bootloader... |
| 03:16.11 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | like lilo |
| 03:16.29 | ClonedMule | But how does grub relate to web design? |
| 03:16.30 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | I think he means multiboot |
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| 03:16.36 | ClonedMule | Aaah =D |
| 03:16.38 | programmer1390 | Yeah |
| 03:16.50 | ClonedMule | Check out winex |
| 03:16.53 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | or vpc? |
| 03:16.54 | programmer1390 | Thats what I mean but I prefer Dual-Boot |
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| 03:17.05 | ClonedMule | it's nonfree, but they are supposed to have better/more recent windows app support |
| 03:17.09 | zeeble | jbr what's port 28 then? less /etc/services does'nt list it |
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| 03:17.38 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | can't you use a virtual pc program and run windows inside linux? |
| 03:17.53 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | I was running linux inside windows for a while but I never tried the other way round |
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| 03:17.57 | Husk1 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY: Vmware |
| 03:18.01 | programmer1390 | Debian has a whole lot of packages |
| 03:18.02 | zeeble | jbr nevermind, its an unregistered port |
| 03:18.04 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | yeah, that's what I used |
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| 03:18.12 | programmer1390 | Fun! I love free software |
| 03:18.17 | bob2 | god |
| 03:18.22 | zeeble | heh |
| 03:18.26 | obtix | how do i go about getting a security certificate in mozilla-thunderbird to sign my emails? |
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| 03:18.36 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | programmer1390: Use VMWare, then you never have to leave Linux |
| 03:18.44 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | you don't even need to repartition |
| 03:18.44 | programmer1390 | And that is a whole lot of games |
| 03:18.46 | programmer1390 | Oh ok |
| 03:18.50 | zeeble | obtix install gpg/gnupg |
| 03:19.17 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | it creates a virtual fat/ntfs partition within a file in your Linux partition |
| 03:19.25 | programmer1390 | My memory speed sux tho maybe thats why |
| 03:19.32 | obtix | zeeble: nope.. thats for signing msg's with pgp (which I would rather use) but firebird doesnt support it and i couldnt take evolution anymore |
| 03:19.36 | programmer1390 | Its PC100 |
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| 03:19.47 | programmer1390 | I dont know why i got this PC from a friend |
| 03:19.47 | prem | hi |
| 03:19.53 | zeeble | obtix what do you want then? |
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| 03:20.07 | prem | anybody tried installing **Win4Lin** on debian?? |
| 03:20.11 | EpiLePTiC_FaiRY | g'night all |
| 03:20.25 | zeeble | obtix thunderbird does'nt support gpg? |
| 03:20.57 | bob2 | prem: #win4lin |
| 03:21.00 | programmer1390 | This is awesome so many development packages! |
| 03:21.03 | obtix | zeeble: nope.. it uses certificates much like outlook does i assume, and uses the CA's to verify them - i dunno where to get one because the button on how to get one doesnt work :-P |
| 03:21.27 | prem | bob: nobody in this channel |
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| 03:21.37 | ClonedMule | slow mem shouldn't make your linux box slower than windows on the same machine... |
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