| 00:00.32 | dondelelcaro | ryan`: yeah, up is probably your best method... that's what it's there for... [and since it's kind of a strange thing to do, there aren't any commands to do it specifically...] |
| 00:00.37 | difeta | eeyore-, ok |
| 00:00.38 | scorphus | mentor: I think I'm gonna dive in google and see if someone has the same problem... |
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| 00:01.04 | brunner | somiaj: My USB mouse works fine, so I know USB is enabled. I haven't changed the BIOS settings since it was working. btw, my problem is that only my USB mouse is being detected and that when I add or remove USB devices, lsusb output doesn't change and the devices don't work. If I unplug and re-plug my USB mouse, it no longer works. |
| 00:01.22 | ryan` | dondelelcaro, I've seen on redhat there are files that can list routes to be configured along with an interface. |
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| 00:01.33 | ryan` | i figured debian had something like that |
| 00:01.47 | Patrick_ | woah, 690 people |
| 00:01.47 | somiaj | brunner: I don't know much about USB, do you have hotplug installed or usbmanager? |
| 00:01.57 | pablo | how can i: download a file (every day at a given time) and after downloading it i must rename it |
| 00:02.05 | pablo | iknow i shgould use cron |
| 00:02.07 | ryan` | damnit |
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| 00:02.08 | pablo | but how? |
| 00:02.17 | ryan` | "route: netmask 0000ffff doesn't make sense with host route" |
| 00:02.19 | ryan` | grrr.... |
| 00:02.25 | {epic} | pablo: write a bash script |
| 00:02.25 | ApEtc | pablo: For the download itself, wget might do the trick |
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| 00:02.32 | scorphus | pablo: quer ajuda em portugues? |
| 00:02.32 | OliverKlozoff | ryan`: host routes are ffffffff |
| 00:02.43 | ryan` | hmm |
| 00:02.44 | ryan` | right |
| 00:02.49 | somiaj | pablo: one way is to write a script, that downloads it and renames it then have cron run the script at the correct time. |
| 00:02.49 | ryan` | oh, i need a -net |
| 00:02.51 | {epic} | pablo: you can use wget (its a command) to get the file, then you can use the mv command to rename it |
| 00:03.01 | OliverKlozoff | plus,. 0.0.255.255 is a really f'd subnetting mask |
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| 00:03.07 | Zap-W | why is it cheaper to buy a router with 4 ports then to get 4 good nics |
| 00:03.18 | pablo | ok many tanks to all :) |
| 00:03.22 | dondelelcaro | Zap-W: because you're not finding cheap good nics? |
| 00:03.23 | pablo | ill try |
| 00:03.35 | brunner | somiaj: hmm... I remember PCI hotplug in my kernel config. I don't remember a USB hotplug. Did I miss something? |
| 00:03.46 | {epic} | Zap-W: simple a cheap 4 port router WILL not work a full speed if you load it up with 4 clients at full speed |
| 00:03.46 | Zap-W | dondelelcaro: yea.., can you help me with that? |
| 00:03.54 | dondelelcaro | Zap-W: hint: things that are supported by the tulip driver... |
| 00:03.55 | rellik | anyone in here use qemu? I wanna know if I can use it to run windows inside linux? |
| 00:03.56 | eeyore- | Zap-W: is that a rhetorical question? |
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| 00:04.07 | brunner | somiaj: I looked for a USB hotplug option in my kernel config a number of times now, btw, and couldn't find anything. |
| 00:04.17 | eeyore- | Zap-W: 4 ports being used in what scenario? |
| 00:04.21 | somiaj | brunner: I'm talking about a debian package, 'hotplug' or 'usbmanager' to manage your usb devices (ie detect when they unplug and plug back in) |
| 00:04.22 | ryan` | OliverKlozoff, I fed it 255.255.0.0 |
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| 00:04.32 | {epic} | Zap-W: I try with a linksys router, and the max BW i would get is about 30mb/sec over it (4 ports, 100mbit (means around 10mb/sec x since duplex) |
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| 00:04.42 | eeyore- | Zap-W: point to point? multiple clients hitting server at same time? |
| 00:04.48 | somiaj | brunner: 'usbmgr' is the name of the package. |
| 00:05.00 | OliverKlozoff | ryan`: hm. Must invert the bits |
| 00:05.03 | space_cow_boy | I am having a problem with connecting to a server. |
| 00:05.08 | scorphus | mentor: hey, many thanks for your time! I apreciate it |
| 00:05.13 | {epic} | Zap-W: the max shoudl have been closer to 80mb/sec, hence a cheap router is cheap since they use an all in one chip which has lousy performance |
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| 00:05.24 | brunner | somiaj: hotplug is installed, yes. |
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| 00:05.30 | dondelelcaro | Zap-W: thinks like http://search.ebay.com/ws/search/SaleSearch?from=R8&ht=1&sacategory=51194&satitle=fa310tx |
| 00:05.34 | eeyore- | on the other hand, you can buy a quadport NIC ... say, d-link |
| 00:05.35 | scorphus | mentor: I give you some feedback if I get it working :) |
| 00:05.37 | Zap-W | eeyore-: mail and webserver p2 box with 320MB want to dump 2 more nics for routing |
| 00:05.39 | pablo | last one ... i have woody and im using gnome 1.4..but cant find an aplet or something that i can put on my panel to minimize all windows |
| 00:05.52 | pablo | is there any way to do that? |
| 00:05.56 | eeyore- | i love the quadport eepro100-based nic ... i see another company making quadport 8139-based nic ... EEEW |
| 00:06.01 | Zap-W | eeyore-: 3rd nic is connected to cable modem |
| 00:06.04 | brunner | should I try usbmanager? |
| 00:06.11 | somiaj | brunner: Ok, well I'm not the one to ask, but you might want to check hotplug to make sure its configured correctly...(: |
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| 00:06.20 | programmer1390 | Hey everyo;ne, i just wanted to ask if Debian would work reasonably well on a 333 mhz with 64 megs of ram and is there ny reaLLYT SMall lightweight WM i could install? |
| 00:06.24 | eeyore- | one 8139 is bad enough. four of them? :-p |
| 00:06.25 | dondelelcaro | Zap-W: or http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3093321755 |
| 00:06.29 | xsdg | why can't I set the netmask of an interface to 0xffffff01? |
| 00:06.29 | _glx | anyone speak german or russian ? |
| 00:06.36 | space_cow_boy | it takes a long time, it looks like a dns lookup problem, but I have edited resolve.conf, and it is empty, which is correct for a static ip. It takes maybe 5 second to log on, which is a bad sign. Does anyone know the problem? or the solution? |
| 00:06.42 | xsdg | _glx: #debian.de? |
| 00:06.44 | Justin | programmer1390: why does it have such a small ammount of memory? |
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| 00:06.55 | thoreauputic | programmer , yes and fluxbox |
| 00:06.57 | scorphus | mentor: how often do you chat here? |
| 00:07.01 | eeyore- | programmer1390: it takes some patience to run debian on my netpliance (winchip, 128MB ram), but it's doable |
| 00:07.02 | simonrvn | xsdg: hiya :) |
| 00:07.04 | dondelelcaro | programmer1390: yes, and yes. try openbox|ratpoison|icewm |
| 00:07.04 | xsdg | _glx: bah; doesn't exist; dunno |
| 00:07.05 | xsdg | simonrvn: hey |
| 00:07.08 | _glx | xsdg, nope |
| 00:07.11 | _glx | :/ |
| 00:07.14 | eeyore- | programmer1390: the trick is to XDMCP to another machine ;-) |
| 00:07.14 | programmer1390 | I just picked it up from a friendm that memory is divided onto 4 chips : ) |
| 00:07.27 | _glx | nu mlya--- |
| 00:07.28 | eeyore- | programmer1390: i use the netpliance as an x terminal, basically |
| 00:07.30 | simonrvn | scorphus: um, a lot more than you do =) |
| 00:07.31 | OliverKlozoff | eh, where's my networking configuration? /etc/what ? |
| 00:07.38 | dondelelcaro | OliverKlozoff: man 5 interfaces |
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| 00:08.07 | dondelelcaro | hrm. I guess man 5 interfaces can be hazardous to your connection's health... |
| 00:08.09 | scorphus | simonrvn: for sure, I'm new to all this :) |
| 00:08.16 | programmer1390 | ok ill try out flubox then, it that enough to run a small web server? it will only be for my site |
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| 00:08.28 | dondelelcaro | programmer1390: uh, you don't need X or a wm if you're running a webserver... |
| 00:08.37 | _glx | deb http://www.backports.org/debian stable .. .official woody unstable.. wo ist hier nen unterschied ? |
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| 00:08.50 | programmer1390 | I know but i refer to work with them |
| 00:08.58 | programmer1390 | I am gonna use Xitami |
| 00:09.16 | Zap-W | dondelelcaro: do you have one of these? |
| 00:09.37 | dondelelcaro | Zap-W: 4 or 5 of them, to be precise... |
| 00:09.42 | dondelelcaro | Zap-W: they work reasonably well... |
| 00:10.02 | eeyore- | programmer1390: you need X login for web server? what? |
| 00:10.16 | OliverKlozoff | blah |
| 00:10.22 | Guerin | eeyore-: nah, he just wants it |
| 00:10.30 | programmer1390 | No i just want a small WM, i just prefer to use them over text based prompots |
| 00:10.40 | eeyore- | dondelelcaro: do they still make fa310tx? |
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| 00:10.54 | programmer1390 | promptsm, yeah i just want it, no reason besides that |
| 00:11.00 | dondelelcaro | eeyore-: nope... |
| 00:11.09 | _glx | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:11.17 | dondelelcaro | Zap-W: they should be reported as 00:11.0 Ethernet controller: Lite-On Communications Inc LNE100TX (rev 21) |
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