| 00:00.01 | Undertak_ | mentor, :just want to execute a command line in a file :) |
| 00:00.02 | cafuego | Undertak_: Any shell is scriptable, in addition there's perl, python, php, ruby, |
| 00:00.06 | guestish | das_netz: its mpeg support is beta |
| 00:00.14 | mentor | Undertak_: '#Debian' |
| 00:00.15 | das_netz | ya |
| 00:00.16 | rich_ | Undertak_ You mean like a file with commands in it and when you run it it acts as if you typped the commands? Thats called a shell script |
| 00:00.17 | cafuego | Undertak_: And probably another 20-odd languages |
| 00:00.22 | sprock | guestish: Ahhh. I was under the impression that OSS was gone (other than OSS emulation by ALSA). |
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| 00:00.32 | guestish | sprock: its depreciated, not gone |
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| 00:00.33 | Undertak_ | rich : that's it |
| 00:00.39 | mentor | hum. |
| 00:00.42 | `Xenocide | gcc question: does order matter where you place the -l stuff on the command line call? it certainly almost seems like it |
| 00:00.49 | cafuego | dondelelcaro: I fart in your general direction, anglo-saxon pig-dog! |
| 00:00.51 | guestish | das_netz: transcode supports mpeg quite well |
| 00:00.56 | nfenderfa | trying to install the 2.6.5 kernel with make-kpkg gives an error: |
| 00:00.57 | rdancer | das_netz: the mencoder UI is as bad as the prog is powerful.. but the mjpegtools seem better wrt ui.. there is a howto @ sf, even |
| 00:00.58 | Undertak_ | rich : what is the syntax ? |
| 00:00.58 | nfenderfa | : undefined reference to `mca_read_stored_pos' |
| 00:00.58 | nfenderfa | make[1]: *** [.tmp_vmlinux1] Error 1 |
| 00:00.58 | nfenderfa | make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.5' |
| 00:00.58 | nfenderfa | make: *** [stamp-build] Error 2 |
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| 00:01.00 | mentor | ~tell Undertak_ about magic |
| 00:01.02 | mentor | ~tell Undertak_ about abs |
| 00:01.04 | sprock | guestish: I see. OK. Then it must be loading up OSS drivers that I don't want. ;) Thanks. |
| 00:01.07 | nfenderfa | what should i do? |
| 00:01.08 | cafuego | dondelelcaro: I think we don't get them because we eat less beans. |
| 00:01.10 | guestish | sprock: np |
| 00:01.15 | mentor | Undertak_: man magic :/ |
| 00:01.18 | colonel | bin: what have you got so far on your find command? |
| 00:01.24 | Undertak_ | ok :) thanls |
| 00:01.26 | Undertak_ | thanks |
| 00:01.27 | bin | nothing special |
| 00:01.29 | mentor | nfenderfa: Read the topic and guidelines. |
| 00:01.31 | das_netz | thanks |
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| 00:01.37 | rich_ | Undertak_ Well you put the commands in a file and you use the chmod command to make it +x for whoever needs to run it. Ussually chmod u+x [filename] is good enough |
| 00:01.37 | guestish | das_netz: transcode is a million times more powerful, but is also usually slower and takes some practice to use it |
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| 00:01.56 | das_netz | guestish, many options!!!! |
| 00:02.06 | guestish | das_netz: like i said, much more powerful |
| 00:02.10 | Undertak_ | rich : ho ok, I just change the permissions on the file to be executable |
| 00:02.10 | bin | for every file or directory find 'finds', it must print out: chown ownership.ownership $file/dir; chmod $permissionsfoundforfileordir $file/dir ; you understand ? :) |
| 00:02.18 | das_netz | well, cool |
| 00:02.21 | rich_ | Undertak_ yes |
| 00:02.29 | francisco-2 | framebuffer, how to turn off? |
| 00:02.33 | cafuego | transcode -E 44100 -b 224 -V -y mpeg2enc,mpeg -F 1 -Z 352x240 -i file.avi -o file.mpeg |
| 00:02.36 | cafuego | tcmplex -i file.mpeg.m1v -p file.mpeg.mpa -o file.mpeg -m v |
| 00:02.41 | thomas_adam | francisco-2: I TOLD YOU: linux video=vga16:off |
| 00:02.45 | helix | jeez |
| 00:02.56 | thomas_adam | bin: man stat, man awk, man ls, man find |
| 00:03.07 | cafuego | That'll generally make nice VCD compliant mpeg files. |
| 00:03.13 | francisco-2 | linux video=vga16:off "linux" command doesn't exist. |
| 00:03.14 | jbr | bin: find -printf can do a lot |
| 00:03.16 | Undertak_ | rich_, : thanks |
| 00:03.19 | das_netz | cafuego, and format wmv to mpeg? |
| 00:03.20 | thomas_adam | francisco-2: At the boot-prompt. |
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| 00:03.34 | colonel | bin then you need ..... -exec echo blahblah..... |
| 00:03.35 | nfenderfa | anybode any idewa |
| 00:03.46 | francisco-2 | boot-prompt ? |
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| 00:03.51 | das_netz | nfenderfa, espaņol? |
| 00:03.51 | cafuego | das_netz: Never nad to but afaik wmv is just a wrapper around an avi nayway |
| 00:03.58 | thomas_adam | francisco-2: Are you being deliberately moronic? |
| 00:03.58 | bin | but i dunno how to do it :s |
| 00:03.59 | nfenderfa | das_netz:no |
| 00:04.15 | bin | can anyone give me an example for chown? will do for chmod myself |
| 00:04.18 | francisco-2 | You mean CONSOLE ? |
| 00:04.25 | das_netz | nfenderfa, fast fingers (anybode any idewa) |
| 00:04.31 | cafuego | chown root .bashrc |
| 00:04.34 | bin | nono ;) |
| 00:04.37 | cafuego | chmod 000 .bshrc |
| 00:04.38 | bin | about my find question |
| 00:04.54 | colonel | bin - chown user.group files |
| 00:04.55 | cafuego | find . -uid 0 ? |
| 00:04.59 | das_netz | bin, chmod with find? |
| 00:05.08 | mentor | nfenderfa: We are not going to watch you break the channel rules and then continue on like it never happened. Try again., |
| 00:05.08 | bin | for every file or directory find 'finds', it must print out: chown ownership.ownership $file/dir; chmod |
| 00:05.08 | bin | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:05.12 | mentor | ~tell nfenderfa about ask |
| 00:05.22 | thomas_adam | bin: for i in *; do echo "chown $($i | awk '{print $3:$4}')"; done |
| 00:05.33 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: you swienhunt you! ;-) |
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| 00:05.44 | cafuego | dondelelcaro: a what now? |
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| 00:06.06 | cafuego | did you mean "Schweinhund" ? |
| 00:06.15 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: ah... yes, that would be right... |
| 00:06.23 | bin | thomas_adam okay: and how to convert -rwxrwxrwx to 777 ? |
| 00:06.25 | cafuego | dondelelcaro: Yeah, but the wrong language. |
| 00:06.30 | colonel | thomas_adam, actually for i in * - will bomb out as the * will expand greater to the line length limit. |
| 00:06.36 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: yeah, but it's close to pig-dog, right? |
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| 00:06.49 | bin | is there a shell command to convert drwxrwxrwx to 777 ? |
| 00:06.50 | jbr | bin: how about... find -printf "chown %u.%g %m; chmod %u %m" |
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| 00:06.56 | flaco | hellos.... |
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| 00:06.58 | cafuego | dondelelcaro: It's exactly pig-dog ; schwein-hund |
| 00:07.08 | colonel | bin that is 777? what are you on? |
| 00:07.11 | thomas_adam | colonel: It beats having to do $(ls) to invoke 'ls' each time. |
| 00:07.21 | colonel | thomas_adam, true! |
| 00:07.30 | jbr | bin: sorry, find -printf "chown %u.%g %p; chmod %m %p" |
| 00:07.43 | das_netz | must it print out owner? bin? |
| 00:07.50 | Mathninja | rdancer: so can you still help me with my PCMCIA problem? |
| 00:07.52 | flaco | i got a problem.. the module of my ethernet card is not in the list when i type lsmod.. but... the card is activate in the kernel... someone know the problem? |
| 00:07.56 | mentor | jbr: You possibly want to in |
| 00:08.00 | mentor | jbr: You possibly want to include the files in that |
| 00:08.02 | das_netz | or only change owner bin? |
| 00:08.03 | colonel | I think he might need to do a du -a > filename on root, then do while read i; commands ; done < filename |
| 00:08.05 | rich_ | pig-dog always seemed like a compliment to me because they are the two smartest barnyard animals |
| 00:08.07 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: yeah, was just responding (badly) to your association of me with those anglo-saxon pigs. The anglo saxons were conquered. My ancestors were too manic for the romans, and were walled off. |
| 00:08.19 | rdancer | Mathninja: last question was: what vendor/model is it? |
| 00:08.25 | paladin_ | Can I get an arch archive without the {arch} and .arch-ids dirs? |
| 00:08.25 | jbr | bin: sorry, find -printf "chown %u.%g %p; chmod %m %p\\n" ? |
| 00:08.35 | cafuego | dondelelcaro: Aye, haggis eaters then? |
| 00:08.41 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: mmm... haggis. |
| 00:08.41 | h | SG1 |
| 00:09.01 | robochan | anyone else having ssh troubles on Sid? |
| 00:09.05 | Mathninja | rdancer: its a Dell Inspiron8000 |
| 00:09.32 | cafuego | robochan: Yes, I can't guess the master.debian.org root password, it won't let me in :-( |
| 00:09.38 | guestish | Mathninja: now thats a monster of a laptop |
| 00:09.39 | tritium | Mathninja, what's your pcmcia problem? |
| 00:09.41 | h | lol cafuego |
| 00:09.49 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: it's r00tp4ss0rd |
| 00:09.50 | jwal | Trying to compile a Qt application but can't seem to satisfy dependencies. I have tried the obvious -dev packages. The strange thing is that apt-get build-dep konqueror fails without a detailed description why |
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| 00:09.56 | h | my root password is root |
| 00:10.01 | helix | aw, chicken run |
| 00:10.03 | h | better than azerty |
| 00:10.15 | bin | that works jbr !;) |
| 00:10.17 | tritium | Mathninja, my latitude C840 is similar to the inspiron 8000 |
| 00:10.17 | bin | thanks !! |
| 00:10.18 | bin | :-)))))) |
| 00:10.25 | robochan | more specifically, "ssh_askpass: exec(/usr/bin/ssh-askpass): No such file or directory" |
| 00:10.30 | cafuego | my OWN password used to be ctrl-F |
| 00:10.34 | francisco-2 | linux video=vga16:off = If I do KDE doesn't work |
| 00:10.38 | rdancer | Mathninja: hmm, welcome in the club. i have latitude, and it's one-prob-after-another |
| 00:10.42 | Mathninja | tritium: when i plug in my PCMCIA network card i get a beep, an error message, then loose all control |
| 00:10.48 | h | cafuego: then if you su from a shell on a keyboard with no ^ key you are screwed |
| 00:10.54 | Mathninja | rdancer: lol |
| 00:10.55 | cafuego | Mathninja: box locks up? |
| 00:10.57 | tritium | Mathninja, oh, yes. I remember that now. |
| 00:11.00 | Mathninja | yep |
| 00:11.09 | colonel | jbr: good find solution, never used -printf with it. |
| 00:11.11 | dondelelcaro | s/to/too/ |
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| 00:11.20 | cafuego | Mathninja: That means you need to specify a range of io ports and memory addresses that pcmciai-cs isn't allowed to touch. |
| 00:11.32 | jbr | colonel: nor me quite like that, as you may have noticed |
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| 00:11.40 | das_netz | Mathninja, check if your module its right.. |
| 00:11.50 | thomas_adam | francisco-2: What crap are you talking about? |
| 00:11.50 | Mathninja | cafuego: ok...im completely new to linux |
| 00:12.05 | Mathninja | das_netz: how do i do that? |
| 00:12.08 | flaco | !acpi |
| 00:12.08 | dpkg | rumour has it, acpi is Advanced Configuration and Power Interface -- a power management interface that gives more control to the OS. Details at http://www.teleport.com/~acpi/acpihtml/home.htm, or at http://phobos.fs.tum.de/acpi, or horribly horribly broken, extreme file system corruption, see 2.4.5 and 2.4.5-ac1 on apt. for suspend software check http://sourceforge.net/projects/swsusp/, or patches at http://sourceforge.net/projects/acpi (+kernel from kernel.org) |
| 00:12.15 | cafuego | Mathninja: The best way of going about that, is to Google for a sample /etc/pcmcia/config.opts from soneone with the same laptop. |
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| 00:12.42 | francisco-2 | My computer starts with X not console login, if I exit X I can't see the console |
| 00:12.44 | cafuego | Mathninja: I had the same problem with my laptop. Still do if I plug in more then one card. |
| 00:12.55 | cafuego | ... or a non-flashed wific ard. |
| 00:12.57 | thomas_adam | francisco-2: tried opening your eyes? |
| 00:13.11 | francisco-2 | are you being sarcastic ? |
| 00:13.19 | thomas_adam | No. It was a genuine question. |
| 00:13.19 | jwal | It just says "E: Build-dependencies for konqueror could not be satisfied." |
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| 00:13.29 | thomas_adam | jwal: It's KDE. What did you expect? |
| 00:13.39 | h | to use fluxbox |
| 00:13.40 | jbr | francisco-2: do you mean, exiting your X session leaves you at a displaymanager login? |
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| 00:13.50 | cafuego | francisco-2: Set 'UseFBDev "true"' in your X cfg. |
| 00:13.55 | jwal | thomas_adam: So I have managed to avoid it for ages for good reason? |
| 00:14.01 | teh | wtf does print preview show one thing (apiword) and print another -- size 12 font looks like size 8 font on paper. |
| 00:14.04 | tritium | Mathninja, can you paste your /etc/pcmcia/config.opts in #flood ? |
| 00:14.13 | francisco-2 | jbr: Leaving X send me to the login prompt of Console |
| 00:14.19 | h | kde deps build each other fine in freebsd |
| 00:14.22 | Matong | Good morning |
| 00:14.32 | dan2 | is there any kind of dselect/aptitude builtin to emacs? |
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| 00:14.35 | cafuego | teh: Coz X runs at 100dpi and you're using a 72dpi font? |
| 00:14.49 | Mathninja | tritium: ok, ill have to type it line by line in there though |
| 00:14.51 | cafuego | dan2: No, doesn't emacs use cpan anyway? |
| 00:14.51 | thomas_adam | dan2: I would imagine so. Everything else is. |
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| 00:15.15 | francisco-2 | What's the apt command to use the command "locate" to search for files? |
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| 00:15.21 | thomas_adam | apt-cache search |
| 00:15.31 | cafuego | francisco-2: dpkg -S |
| 00:15.34 | thomas_adam | dpkg -S /path/to/file ? |
| 00:15.34 | cafuego | apt-file search |
| 00:15.35 | dpkg | You Fool! /path/to/file is installed! |
| 00:15.40 | ard_ | Greetings, I'm running debian on a machine and I'd like to replicate my install on multiple other machines |
| 00:15.45 | thomas_adam | dpkg: quiet you. |
| 00:15.45 | dpkg | thomas_adam: no idea |
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| 00:15.56 | ard_ | I'm trying to use 'replicator' but it wants base2_2.tgz. |
| 00:16.05 | ard_ | I can't find that file on the ftp mirrors |
| 00:16.08 | ard_ | any suggestions? |
| 00:16.12 | cafuego | ard_: ouch, that's a bit old. |
| 00:16.13 | francisco-2 | no, on my Linux Server, I use locate lib.conf and it gives me the location, I need to install it, because on my Debian Box it doesn't have it installed |
| 00:16.15 | flaco | ard_: make a deb image |
| 00:16.20 | opti | I've got an odd problem here. I can mount/unmount an ntfs partition as a user, but can't read/write as user. |
| 00:16.29 | opti | once I mount it, permissions change to read only for root. |
| 00:16.32 | thomas_adam | ard_: dpkg --get-selections > ./some_file (and then on new machine): dpkg --set-selections ./some_file && apt-get dselect-upgrade |
| 00:16.38 | cafuego | opti: writing ntfs is not a good idea if you want to keep your data. |
| 00:16.43 | sprock | Hey folks. I'm using a stock Debian 2.6 kernel. It's loading up an OSS sound module and I'm not sure why. Where do I look to find the offending config? |
| 00:16.46 | jwal | thomas_adam: Seriously, though, how can I get a build dependency listing for the package (boson-base) so I can try and find what it needs? |
| 00:16.51 | xerophyte | how can i remove this ssh_Askpassword dialog box? |
| 00:16.51 | opti | cafuego: I just want to read |
| 00:16.54 | cafuego | opti: reading it is easy, see the 'umask' and 'uid/gid' option in man mount. |
| 00:16.59 | flaco | opti: ntfs partition are read-only for now.. |
| 00:17.10 | opti | cafuego: do I need to change permissions for the /dev file itself? |
| 00:17.27 | cafuego | opti: No, you need to set some mount options that afect the default file mode. |
| 00:17.28 | francisco-2 | Where is the X Conf ' |
| 00:17.35 | somiaj | opti: check out the man page for mount, you'll need to add options, like ro (read only) uid= gid= umask= to make certain users/groups/or primisions on the file system |
| 00:17.36 | ard_ | thomas_adam: but currently I don't have *anything* installed on the new machines |
| 00:17.42 | thomas_adam | francisco-2: How are you even using linux? |
| 00:17.44 | ard_ | will I have to install some base system there first? |
| 00:17.46 | jbr | francisco-2: I'm not understanding your problems |
| 00:17.52 | thomas_adam | ard_: Install the base system on the new machine and then run the command I gave you |
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| 00:17.57 | cafuego | opti: use 'gid=XXXX,umask='002' where XXXX is your accounts group id. |
| 00:18.08 | ard_ | thomas_adam: see, that's the pain. I need to do this for 10 machines |
| 00:18.26 | jbr | francisco-2: do you want to dpkg-reconfigure the X server? |
| 00:18.28 | thomas_adam | ard_: Time is not something I can factor out. You have the solution. Use it. |
| 00:18.42 | opti | cafuego: in the options section of /etc/fstab right? |
| 00:18.53 | opti | cafuego: and how do I check gid of an account? |
| 00:19.06 | ard_ | using that logic, I could have just manually installed everything 10 times so your solution isn't all that ground breaking |
| 00:19.08 | jbr | francisco-2: or are you looking for /etc/X11/XF86Config-4? or...? |
| 00:19.09 | ard_ | but thanks |
| 00:19.17 | cafuego | opti: yep. and `id' |
| 00:19.24 | opti | thanks |
| 00:19.25 | das_netz | how can i do use my cdwriter without emulation ide-scsi in kernel 2.4.26? |
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| 00:19.35 | thomas_adam | das_netz: You can't. |
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| 00:19.42 | thomas_adam | ard_: Well, it is more automated. |
| 00:19.48 | Mathninja | tritium: my file matches yours exactly |
| 00:20.15 | ard_ | I think I'll just dd the thing over the network |
| 00:20.21 | thomas_adam | jbr: Keep up man, he is not here anymore. |
| 00:20.27 | thomas_adam | ard_: have a look at 'fai'. |
| 00:20.28 | Mathninja | tritium: i do have one last line that came after your last comment line: exclude irq 7 |
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| 00:21.10 | opti | cafuego: that umask setting doesn't seem to work |
| 00:21.22 | jbr | thomas_adam: oh, he'll be back |
| 00:21.24 | tritium | Mathninja, I have that last line too. |
| 00:21.28 | ard_ | thomas_adam: thanks |
| 00:21.47 | Mathninja | tritium: ok so then my file is the same |
| 00:21.48 | helix | hmm. mailing lists die on weekends |
| 00:22.14 | jbr | helix: odd, eh,you'd think people would have more free tme |
| 00:22.25 | tritium | Mathninja, have you inspected log files? |
| 00:22.26 | helix | jbr: heh |
| 00:22.49 | tritium | What? |
| 00:23.00 | Mathninja | tritium: what log files should i look at? |
| 00:23.06 | cafuego | helix: send your camel photo to the list... |
| 00:23.11 | helix | haha |
| 00:23.17 | helix | cafuego: i think you're obsessed |
| 00:23.21 | opti | is root just a member of all groups by default? |
| 00:23.32 | jbr | opti: doesn't need to be |
| 00:23.33 | tritium | Mathninja, /var/log/syslog and messages |
| 00:23.36 | Matong | LIST: does anyone use licq behind a firewall and can send/recieve Files? |
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| 00:23.45 | cafuego | helix: i have been for over a decade |
| 00:23.55 | tritium | kern.log |
| 00:24.00 | opti | jbr: so if I list gid in /etc/fstab, it's in addition to root? |
| 00:24.20 | thomas_adam | opti: man 5 fstab |
| 00:24.27 | jbr | opti: come to think of it there can be exceptions for remote FSs |
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| 00:24.48 | jbr | opti: but generally, root can always access anything |
| 00:24.51 | cuse | What tool can I use to view which functions actually a .so library file offers? |
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| 00:25.12 | opti | thomas_adam: I don't see where that gives me the umask I need |
| 00:26.12 | tritium | opti, man mount |
| 00:26.21 | ard_ | thanks again all |
| 00:26.23 | ard_ | good day |
| 00:26.24 | thomas_adam | opti: umask of 022 is usually sufficient. |
| 00:26.33 | xerophyte | Does anybody know how can i enable the PAM inforcement for the ssh logins, i have edit the /etc/security/access.conf i have put -:username:all but i am still able to login as that user, does anybody if i am missing anything else? |
| 00:26.53 | opti | thomas_adam: 002 didn't work, I'll try 022 |
| 00:27.52 | opti | ok cool, seems to work now |
| 00:27.52 | jwal | cuse: try nm |
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| 00:28.10 | opti | thanks thomas_adam |
| 00:28.16 | uriahheep | WORKING KNOPPIX 3.4 TORRENT: http://unstandardsouls.ath.cx/Knoppix34-ct.iso.torrent |
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| 00:28.42 | helix | cafuego: find it! |
| 00:28.58 | cafuego | Fucking knoppix spam. Fucking canuck. |
| 00:29.00 | jbr | cafuego: in chile? |
| 00:29.23 | cafuego | jbr: No, I only spent 6 hours in chile, no llamas where I was. |
| 00:29.37 | Ugly_Duck | what kernel would you recommend i upgrade too? i am running 2.4 |
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| 00:29.55 | cuse | jwal: isnt nm just for object files? means .o files? |
| 00:29.59 | tritium | Ugly_Duck, 2.6.5 is available as a .deb |
| 00:30.12 | jbr | Ugly_Duck: under woody or later? |
| 00:30.47 | jbr | Ugly_Duck: 2.6.5 will work on woody but needs backports for module-handling |
| 00:30.48 | Ugly_Duck | jbr: i am currently running woody |
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| 00:31.23 | Ugly_Duck | ok, do either of you have a current source handy? |
| 00:31.26 | jwal | cuse: when it says object files it means anything in ELF, I think |
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| 00:32.11 | jwal | cuse: seems to work on my shared libraries |
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| 00:32.32 | The-Evil-Dictato | Hi'ya Yall, i was wonderin if XFCE came on of of those Debian disks? |
| 00:32.33 | jetscreamer | lol (Killed (Services.EnterTheGame.Com ([Ref#:66644 - Expires:5/13/04] Banned - Trojaned machine)))) |
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| 00:32.46 | shinji | is there a way to re-install apps with apt-get? |
| 00:32.50 | obake | hah |
| 00:33.01 | shinji | keeps giving the error that the app is already installed |
| 00:33.03 | jetscreamer | apt-get install --reinstall packagename |
| 00:33.08 | shinji | thanks |
| 00:33.15 | cuse | jwal: with which option? |
| 00:33.38 | cuse | jwal: i just get 'no symbols' |
| 00:33.41 | jetscreamer | you can apt-get xfce-4 but that's not what you asked |
| 00:33.44 | Ugly_Duck | this is what i'm getting at the moment kernel-source-2.6.3_2.6.3-2_all.deb |
| 00:34.01 | jetscreamer | why .3 when .5 is in sid |
| 00:34.03 | jetscreamer | bye |
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| 00:34.20 | jbr | Ugly_Duck: just go to http://packages.debian.org/kernel-source-2.6.5 |
| 00:34.24 | The-Evil-Dictato | Is there any site i can search the debian packages? (I mean literally search, not just scroll) |
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| 00:34.43 | Mathninja | tritium: theres nothing in those log files pertaining to the PCMCIA crash |
| 00:34.58 | Ugly_Duck | thanks jak |
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| 00:35.01 | Ugly_Duck | jbr |
| 00:35.13 | jbr | The-Evil-Dictator: are you after http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages#search_contents ? |
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| 00:35.22 | tritium | Mathninja, I'm out of ideas... |
| 00:35.22 | The-Evil-Dictato | No I wondered if it was precompiled on one of the Debian Disks |
| 00:35.43 | Mathninja | tritium: thanks for trying |
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| 00:35.50 | tritium | Mathninja, sure, sorry. |
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| 00:36.52 | Ugly_Duck | is sid the next release or Sarge? |
| 00:37.04 | jbr | The-Evil-Dictato: a package for searching the Contents files in your sources? apt-file? |
| 00:37.10 | tritium | Ugly_Duck, sid will never be released. |
| 00:37.12 | mosty | i just did an upgrade on sid, which upgraded gaim and makedev, and it seems to have broken ssh. whenever i try to ssh to another host, i get "ssh_askpass: exec(/usr/bin/ssh-askpass): No such file or directory". |
| 00:37.51 | jwal | cuse: example "nm -D /usr/X11R6/lib/libXv.so" has loads of output |
| 00:37.53 | Ugly_Duck | tritium: oh ok.. |
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| 00:38.02 | robochan | mosty: ditto |
| 00:38.02 | The-Evil-Dictato | I just need to know how to set up XFCE im new to linux |
| 00:38.09 | Ugly_Duck | i hate dialup |
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| 00:38.11 | tritium | Ugly_Duck, sarge is the next stable release. sid will always be unstable |
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| 00:38.41 | mosty | robochan, have you been able to track down any reasons why this happened? |
| 00:38.54 | robochan | no, not yet |
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| 00:39.01 | Ugly_Duck | tritium: ahh.... okies, i should sign upto a news letter for debian realeases.. |
| 00:39.02 | robochan | root is abeto ssh just fine though |
| 00:39.02 | cuse | jwal: ah, ok thanks, -D was what im searching for |
| 00:39.10 | robochan | er...root is able to |
| 00:39.23 | robochan | I just submitted a bug report |
| 00:39.44 | Ugly_Duck | should i be getting every thing in this directory? http://ftp.nz.debian.org/debian/pool/main/k/kernel-source-2.6.5/ |
| 00:39.58 | Ugly_Duck | *.deb's i mean |
| 00:40.10 | mosty | robochan, works as root here too |
| 00:40.24 | The-Evil-Dictato | Can someone please give me a link on how to set up the FlukeBox WM to start with X?, ive been looking for a while |
| 00:40.46 | Justin | !tell The-Evil-Dictato about wm |
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| 00:41.25 | francisco-2 | I need to configure X, how can I do it? |
| 00:41.52 | The-Evil-Dictato | Can someone please help me or give me a link i dont know how to set up fluxbox |
| 00:42.06 | francisco-2 | apt-get install fluxbox :) |
| 00:42.10 | jbr | Ugly_Duck: (gives up connecting to nz) you don't necessarily need more tham the source .deb (and preferably kernel-package) |
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| 00:42.30 | The-Evil-Dictato | OK thanks much |
| 00:42.33 | francisco-2 | :D |
| 00:42.42 | threefold | howdy ppl, is samba3 in the stable branch of APT ? |
| 00:42.54 | Ugly_Duck | to compile a new kernel do i need "kernel-patch-debian-2.6.5_2.6.5-1_all.deb, kernel-source-2.6.5_2.6.5-1_all.deb, kernel-tree-2.6.5_2.6.5-1_all.deb, kernel-doc-2.6.5_2.6.5-1_all.deb"? |
| 00:42.59 | robochan | lol, is samba1? |
| 00:43.05 | Justin | !tell threefold about search |
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| 00:43.11 | mosty | threefold, you mean in woody? hell no |
| 00:43.14 | atrus | threefold: http://packages.debian.org/samba |
| 00:43.14 | Justin | !tell threefold about backports |
| 00:43.14 | cafuego | helix: Can't find it, but you can probably search for 'Black Llama Airlines' on archive.org |
| 00:43.29 | jbr | threefold: woody has 2.2.3a-12.3! |
| 00:43.30 | Mathninja | tritium: i just tried a different card in the slot and it doesn't lock up the system |
| 00:43.45 | Mathninja | now i just need to set up my network with it |
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| 00:43.50 | tritium | Mathninja, that doesn't surprise me |
| 00:43.53 | hacim | I'm using munin and occasionally my graphs show no data, if I connect to the port and fetch the individual modules they report data, whats up? |
| 00:44.15 | Mathninja | tritium: apparently that card has a lot of problems with linux |
| 00:44.17 | dobsonj | threefold, nothing new is ever allowed in woody anymore. the only thing that changes is security.debian.org which only updates critical security patches |
| 00:44.24 | flaco | Mathninja: u got a pcmcia ethernet? |
| 00:44.39 | Mathninja | flaco: yes, but i dont know how to set it up right |
| 00:44.50 | jetscreamer | what's the dpkg keyword for the nerim.net stuff |
| 00:45.04 | tritium | Mathninja, for one thing, don't set the interface option to "auto" |
| 00:45.05 | flaco | waht happend when u plug in? |
| 00:45.16 | rdancer | !calc 65536*65536 |
| 00:45.27 | Mathninja | tritium: where is the interface option? |
| 00:45.29 | rdancer | sorry |
| 00:45.30 | threefold | dobsonj: thanx, i know debian likes to keep it stable so i thought i should ask. I didn't see it listed in the apt-cache list but wanted to ask people who would know |
| 00:45.33 | francisco-2 | Hola Flaco |
| 00:45.37 | flaco | hola |
| 00:45.41 | tritium | Mathninja, /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 00:45.51 | fung | is debian the best distro |
| 00:45.58 | flaco | yes |
| 00:46.00 | dobsonj | threefold, :) |
| 00:46.07 | francisco-2 | try RedHat and compare 'em |
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| 00:46.22 | flaco | or windrake |
| 00:46.33 | francisco-2 | isn't it mandrake? |
| 00:46.36 | Mathninja | tritium: what should be in that file? |
| 00:46.40 | jbr | fung: 01:46 < francisco-2> isn't it mandrake? |
| 00:46.44 | jbr | oops |
| 00:46.45 | Mathninja | i have 2 lines in there |
| 00:46.50 | flaco | mandrake the best distro??? |
| 00:46.51 | flaco | ajajjaja |
| 00:46.53 | Mathninja | and one is auto ;) |
| 00:46.54 | roo9 | is there a sarge netinst iso that uses kernel 2.6? |
| 00:47.05 | francisco-2 | roo No |
| 00:47.07 | dobsonj | is there a way i could print out current cpu usage in percent from a perl script? maybe by adding up the cpu info from ps aux on each process? |
| 00:47.14 | threefold | Mandrak / Fedora (aka redhat) are good end-user distro's |
| 00:47.16 | idnarhtim | what's the story about Debian not working on a 386 CPU? |
| 00:47.17 | tritium | flaco, debian es mejor |
| 00:47.19 | francisco-2 | Configure APT-get to use sarge's Download sites |
| 00:47.21 | threefold | debian is a good STABLE distro |
| 00:47.22 | flaco | lejos |
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| 00:47.40 | cafuego | threefold: Debian is also great for end users. |
| 00:47.53 | cafuego | threefold: Coz they cna easily upgrde and add software. |
| 00:47.56 | francisco-2 | Nah, Windows with their bugs are the best hacked distro |
| 00:48.01 | threefold | cafuego: true, but i find that it is a little more complicated for those just starting out. |
| 00:48.16 | threefold | knoppix is a nice end-user variant i believe |
| 00:48.23 | cafuego | threefold: Only if they cannot read or refuse to read. |
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| 00:48.41 | francisco-2 | Crap... |
| 00:48.49 | threefold | cafuego: perhaps. but i read, and re-read, and read again, and quite often my tiny lil brain just cant comprehend the man pages |
| 00:49.03 | francisco-2 | I think my Video Card isn't supported by Debian... |
| 00:49.09 | cafuego | threefold: end users rarely have a need for reading manpages. |
| 00:49.10 | threefold | cafuego: i always have to go looking for 'tutorials / learn by example' type articles |
| 00:49.13 | francisco-2 | ATI Radeon Vivo |
| 00:49.17 | threefold | i find man pages too clinical. |
| 00:49.19 | dobsonj | windows is the most secure operating system, it even comes with a CD key to make sure no one steals your windows (yes i am kidding, there was a humorous article on linuxtoday some time ago) |
| 00:49.23 | Mathninja | tritium: should i delete the auto line from /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 00:49.23 | flaco | cual tarjeta es? |
| 00:49.24 | threefold | which is what they are meant to be i guess |
| 00:49.35 | francisco-2 | ATI Radeon 64DDR (VIVO) |
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| 00:49.45 | flaco | baja los drivers |
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| 00:49.56 | def | hey.. what do i all need to build the 2.6.5 kernel, then how do i do it? the make menuconfig wont work |
| 00:49.56 | francisco-2 | flaco: There're no linux drivers |
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| 00:50.09 | flaco | cual es la pag de ati? |
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| 00:50.19 | cafuego | def: maybe don't use it then |
| 00:50.20 | tritium | Mathninja, no. Just make sure that your pcmcia interface is not listed after auto. Keep "lo" auto. |
| 00:50.25 | threefold | cafuego: i had to read the man pages just to get my very standard sound working (via chipset 686b, for athlonxp) |
| 00:50.26 | francisco-2 | www.ati.net |
| 00:50.48 | cafuego | threefold: No need for that here, the odule just auto-loaded. |
| 00:50.52 | jbr | def: for a start you might be better off going through kernel-package |
| 00:51.13 | jwal | def: have you installed the ncurses-dev pagkage? |
| 00:51.23 | mosty | def, why won't it work? |
| 00:51.23 | def | jwal: ya i have |
| 00:51.32 | threefold | cafuego: no, it autoloads and doesn't work, i ended up having to add a line to my lilo.conf file in the append section (NOAPIC) which i had to read man pages and annoy people in here just to learn about |
| 00:51.40 | def | u wanna see the errors? |
| 00:51.41 | dobsonj | def, su; cd /usr/src; wget http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.5.tar.bz2; tar jxvf linux-2.6.5.tar.bz2; cd linux-2.6.5; make menuconfig; |
| 00:51.43 | Mathninja | tritium: ok pcmcia is not in there |
| 00:51.44 | threefold | for me this is |
| 00:51.50 | tritium | flaco, mira: http://dri.sourceforge.net para drivers |
| 00:51.58 | def | dobsonj: thanks bro ill give it a try |
| 00:52.06 | helix | mira mira! |
| 00:52.12 | Mathninja | tritium: what should i do now? |
| 00:52.12 | threefold | and the same has happened on multiple motherboards ive tried using the 686b chipset |
| 00:52.16 | helix | mira mami tu te ves buenaaaa |
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| 00:52.27 | jwal | def: no thanks, to be honest it is a long time since I compiled a kernel I just remember that being an issue |
| 00:52.34 | cafuego | helix: eh, nao falo portuguese |
| 00:52.41 | helix | cafuego: heh |
| 00:52.45 | cafuego | fala ingles? |
| 00:52.58 | helix | sim! |
| 00:53.05 | cafuego | bueno |
| 00:53.13 | tritium | Mathninja, that's all I was suggesting. |
| 00:53.14 | helix | that was spanish anyway |
| 00:53.26 | helix | cafuego: i found a frightening song today that i shall use to teach myself portuguese |
| 00:53.34 | def | jwal: its cool i got it thanks |
| 00:53.34 | cafuego | south-of-the-alps is all the same to me |
| 00:53.34 | Eclipser | ok |
| 00:53.48 | threefold | if i wanted to use samba3 on my 'stable / woody' system is their an apt source i can use? or will i need to build it from scratch ? |
| 00:53.51 | flaco | http://membres.lycos.fr/routeslinux/dri/radeon-linux.i386.tar.bz2 |
| 00:54.10 | francisco-2 | flaco, what's that? |
| 00:54.22 | flaco | atiradeon 64ddr driver for linux |
| 00:54.24 | francisco-2 | the framebuffer driver? |
| 00:54.27 | jbr | threefold: probably something at apt-get.org or backports.org |
| 00:54.28 | flaco | u must compile them |
| 00:54.39 | Eclipser | anyone got any ideas what I might be missing since most of my java programs don't run, firefox crashes when I try to run an applet and something segfaults when I try to run some java applications (all but hello world so far) |
| 00:54.53 | francisco-2 | Flaco is that the same,as the one on Modconf ? |
| 00:54.59 | helix | cafuego: http://www.stlyrics.com/songs/u/urbanalegiao4475/faroestecaboclo205230.html |
| 00:55.14 | tritium | Mathninja, is your card recognized when you insert it? What does the output of "/sbin/ifconfig" say? |
| 00:55.30 | flaco | dunno.. i dont have ati... |
| 00:55.36 | flaco | i got savage and nvidia |
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| 00:55.44 | francisco-2 | oh |
| 00:56.20 | threefold | jbr: thanks, thos two websites look like exactly what im after. thanx |
| 00:56.27 | jwal | Can somebody tell me how to get build dependency information for a package? |
| 00:56.37 | Litage | how do i restart hotplug? |
| 00:56.54 | jwal | Litage: /etc/init.d/hotplug restart |
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| 00:57.11 | Litage | thanks jwal! |
| 00:57.18 | Mathninja | tritium: all it has is stuff about lo |
| 00:57.56 | flaco | eth0: failed to bring up ethernet |
| 00:57.59 | flaco | ???? |
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| 00:58.05 | Mathninja | tritium: how would i set up my card? |
| 00:58.20 | flaco | u got pcmcia support> |
| 00:58.21 | flaco | ? |
| 00:58.38 | simonrvn | !nickometer The-Evil-Dictato |
| 00:58.38 | dpkg | 'The-Evil-Dictato' is 99.830% lame, simonrvn |
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| 00:58.53 | robochan | mosty: chmod 666 /dev/tty |
| 00:58.57 | flaco | !bill gates |
| 00:58.57 | dpkg | bill gates is probably the creator of all many things that are annoying, insidious, non-free, evil, and annoying. Did I mention annoying? > very annoying. |
| 00:58.58 | The-Evil-Dictato | Im not used to the Debian installer, will it ask me to choose a default Desktop during the intallation or will i have to do it by myself at the prompt? |
| 00:59.28 | robochan | mosty: that should fix it |
| 00:59.29 | simonrvn | The-Evil-Dictato: uh, no. |
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| 01:00.14 | The-Evil-Dictato | Simon Raven, is that yo name, it sounds familiar |
| 01:00.24 | simonrvn | could be.. |
| 01:00.34 | The-Evil-Dictato | ha ok |
| 01:00.45 | rdancer | The-Evil-Dictato: it's like, that e.a.poe poem you read @ school today |
| 01:00.51 | mosty | robochan, ahh, naughty makedev |
| 01:00.54 | mosty | thanks |
| 01:01.09 | simonrvn | rdancer: hehe |
| 01:01.11 | robochan | yup...the changelog forit mentioned the permchanges |
| 01:01.19 | rdancer | shit |
| 01:01.33 | rdancer | mosty: please ls -l /dev/tty for me |
| 01:01.45 | mosty | rdancer, before or after the fix? |
| 01:01.50 | flaco | what is the direcoty of mozzila... to copy the files to get plug in |
| 01:01.51 | rdancer | mosty: before, pls |
| 01:02.00 | tritium | Mathninja, I'm not going to be able to walk you through the whole process. |
| 01:02.07 | mosty | rdancer, too late, i'll have to upgrade another machine if you want me to test that? |
| 01:02.08 | robochan | rdancer: rw-rw--- before rw-rw-rw after |
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