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| 01:22.10 | *** topic/#debian is no prompt in terminal emulators? /msg dpkg xterm fix || READ THE FAQ: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki | READ THE BTS (/msg dpkg bts) | Paste in #flood NOT here | /msg bots NOT people | BORKED: local root exploit: http://tinyurl.com/2uyk4; gdm: #241184; libxft-dev: #237511 | fixed: makedev (#245735) (ssh-askpass); Linux: #243725 DSA-479-2; libpam-runtime: #243413 | /msg dpkg gnome2.6 | Knoppix IS NOT Debian! |
| 01:22.40 | idnarhtim | apt: talk of the devil! |
| 01:22.43 | apt | idnarhtim: i don't know |
| 01:22.43 | konnik | green-ears: i set up my network and it worked |
| 01:23.05 | green-ears | <konnik> so things are good ? |
| 01:23.19 | FieldySnuts | nick completes with <> are lame, makes it look like pastes |
| 01:23.20 | abrotman | !pubtime |
| 01:23.28 | dpkg | well, pubtime is time for asg to go .. 3pm! |
| 01:23.30 | idnarhtim | FieldySnuts: yeah, it's annoying |
| 01:23.33 | asg | abrotman: 'sbeen pubtime all day mate :) |
| 01:23.37 | abrotman | asg: woohoo |
| 01:23.39 | dpkg-deb | qmail, i hear you are bug free! is this true? |
| 01:23.44 | green-ears | <FieldySnuts> ok |
| 01:23.59 | arafel | dpkg-deb: reputedly. but nobody dares question the author anyway. ;-) |
| 01:24.00 | asg | abrotman: hehe |
| 01:24.02 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: please dont ignore me |
| 01:24.14 | abrotman | asg: theres a beer fest down the street today |
| 01:24.17 | abrotman | but i didn't go :( |
| 01:24.22 | Shadur | Someone please get the fuckwits out of our misery. |
| 01:24.24 | asg | abrotman: aaarrrg |
| 01:24.24 | dpkg-deb | arafel: could this be because nobody uses qmail? |
| 01:24.25 | konnik | green-ears: actually, no |
| 01:24.34 | FieldySnuts | !start an mta war |
| 01:24.38 | abrotman | asg: with a non-alcoholic member of society |
| 01:24.47 | asg | abrotman: you? |
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| 01:24.52 | corr | Shadur sorry to tell you, but i am here to stay. i won't be going anywhere for a long time. |
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| 01:25.01 | dpkg | exim is hard to configure |
| 01:25.06 | FieldySnuts | corr: please troll harder, so you get taken care of faster. |
| 01:25.21 | konnik | green-ears: hm... i tried about 10 different mirrors for stable |
| 01:25.22 | corr | FieldySnuts i am not trolling. |
| 01:25.26 | green-ears | konnik sorry i not much help with a floppy install |
| 01:25.27 | fax0 | i have the latest file ( patch-2.6.5 to patch my kernel to 2.6.5 i guess ? i have kernel 2.2 ) how do i use the file once i have it ? |
| 01:25.42 | FieldySnuts | patch-2.6.5 would be a patch against the full 2.6.4 source |
| 01:25.44 | corr | dpkg no it is not, you moron. exim rocks. |
| 01:25.44 | dpkg | I think you lost me on that one, corr |
| 01:25.47 | konnik | green-ears: none worked, now i accidently chose test and it downloads |
| 01:25.52 | FieldySnuts | you'd be better off downloading the full 2.6.5 source |
| 01:25.58 | corr | dpkg no duh |
| 01:25.58 | dpkg | parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, corr |
| 01:25.59 | green-ears | konnik: just wait |
| 01:26.03 | FieldySnuts | !moron cortex25 |
| 01:26.04 | dpkg | cortex25: You are moron #59 |
| 01:26.06 | FieldySnuts | corr rather |
| 01:26.10 | idnarhtim | FieldySnuts: wrong nick-complete |
| 01:26.12 | idnarhtim | !moron corr |
| 01:26.14 | dpkg | corr: You are moron #26 |
| 01:26.15 | FieldySnuts | thanks |
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| 01:26.20 | green-ears | konnik: i am looking for a link |
| 01:26.30 | konnik | green-ears: do you think test is a bad choice? |
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| 01:26.35 | fax0 | FieldySnuts: so i need to get the full 2.6.4 source file ? |
| 01:26.45 | corr | FieldySnuts as much as you dislike me, i'm not going anywhere. i will climb up the debian chain until i have more powerful than you, and then i will smite you. |
| 01:26.46 | asg | fax0: just download the full 2.6.5 source |
| 01:26.51 | FieldySnuts | fax0: you could do that, but you may as well get full 2.6.5 while you're at it, about the same size. |
| 01:27.01 | FieldySnuts | !say corr: be quiet, kiddie. |
| 01:27.02 | dpkg | corr: be quiet, kiddie. |
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| 01:27.11 | fax0 | asg: yes i ll do that |
| 01:27.17 | asg | fax0: good |
| 01:27.35 | fax0 | FieldySnuts: oh i gotcha |
| 01:27.38 | corr | FieldySnuts bide your time, my takeover of the debian project is nigh |
| 01:27.46 | trippy | Ha. |
| 01:27.53 | FieldySnuts | troll. |
| 01:27.57 | GAP | If im "ssh"ed into a mail server, and I want to copy my saved mail to my computer, whats the command to download the file I want? |
| 01:28.06 | corr | hitler was elected and so shall i. |
| 01:28.11 | WALoeIII | Ahh! |
| 01:28.15 | WALoeIII | I have a package (vpopmail-bin) |
| 01:28.21 | abrotman | asg: no a friend is |
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| 01:28.22 | WALoeIII | thats was previously installed via souce |
| 01:28.26 | WALoeIII | but now I installed in via apt-get |
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| 01:28.30 | WALoeIII | and I can't remove it |
| 01:28.34 | WALoeIII | I didn't realize I had it installed via souce |
| 01:28.37 | WALoeIII | source* |
| 01:28.43 | asg | GAP: scp /var/mail/$USER me@homemachine: |
| 01:28.44 | corr | WALoeIII dont be so vague! god! you idiot! i am smarter than you! |
| 01:28.50 | FieldySnuts | which is why going outside of a systems package management is a bad idea |
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| 01:28.59 | WALoeIII | when I try to remove it I get an error that /usr/bin/tcpserver doesn't exsist |
| 01:29.02 | asg | GAP: or whatever file or directory your saved mail resides in |
| 01:29.13 | binary_dreamer | hi could someone tell me how to enable hdparm? |
| 01:29.29 | FieldySnuts | hdparm is just an application, you run it |
| 01:29.32 | FieldySnuts | man hdparm |
| 01:29.36 | WALoeIII | how do I force removal of the package |
| 01:29.37 | asg | binary_dreamer: apt-get install hdparm ; man hdparm (alternately man update-rc.d after reading /etc/init.d/skeleton) |
| 01:29.37 | WALoeIII | or fix it |
| 01:29.38 | fax0 | downloading kernel source :) |
| 01:29.40 | corr | i can see it now, debcorr. |
| 01:29.41 | WALoeIII | so that I can remove it? |
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| 01:29.54 | asg | WALoeIII: cd /dir/to/source ; make uninstall |
| 01:30.03 | fax0 | *When will sun microsystem will make this 3d windows linux out ? |
| 01:30.07 | WALoeIII | but I need it installed? |
| 01:30.09 | WALoeIII | :\ |
| 01:30.15 | WALoeIII | I don't wnat the packaged version |
| 01:30.18 | GAP | asg: the directory is /home/greg but whats this "me@homemachine" ? |
| 01:30.21 | WALoeIII | the source version is already configured and working |
| 01:30.25 | FieldySnuts | fax0: if you're going from a 2.2 kernel all the way to a 2.6, there are things you'd need to move from 2.2 to 2.4, then further things to move from 2.4 to 2.6. you better read the Changelog in the latest 2.4 kernel as well as the changelog for the latest 2.6 kernel. i'll give you a freebee: module-init-tools |
| 01:30.30 | WALoeIII | and its newer than the packaged binary |
| 01:30.39 | asg | GAP: me@homemachine == 'to my computer' in your previous statement |
| 01:30.53 | solarce_ | ;a;a;a;a;a;a;a |
| 01:30.54 | T_VoiD | GAP: or from home machine (since it worked) scp greg@mailserver:/var/mail/greg /some/place/here |
| 01:30.55 | solarce_ | :o |
| 01:31.10 | FieldySnuts | http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.4/ChangeLog-2.4.26 http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ChangeLog-2.6.5 |
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| 01:32.19 | solarce_ | FieldySnuts: are you following me? |
| 01:32.20 | GAP | asg: Sorry but I dont understand, what greg@homemachine part, I mean... the syntax doesnt make any sense do I substitute "homemachine for my computer's name or... |
| 01:32.25 | green-ears | konnik: use the floppy that you installed the base last time but the source path for the apt-get needs to be poited at woody or sarge |
| 01:32.26 | FieldySnuts | solarce_: no |
| 01:32.31 | solarce_ | FieldySnuts: seems like it |
| 01:32.43 | FieldySnuts | solarce_: don't be as paranoid as I am, ruins yer life |
| 01:32.52 | binary_dreamer | asg, i am kinda new to linux. the device that is root is /dev/hda6. could you tell me the procedure to set hdparm? please? |
| 01:32.57 | T_VoiD | GAP: you have to ope,n a 2nd connection to the mailserver. being connected via ssh to the mail server doesn't provide any handy mean to copy a file |
| 01:33.04 | solarce_ | FieldySnuts: too late |
| 01:33.11 | T_VoiD | GAP: scp will open this second connection to copy stuff |
| 01:33.12 | FieldySnuts | well. welcome to hell, then. |
| 01:33.18 | konnik | green-ears: i accidently tried to download "testing" it worked at once |
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| 01:33.20 | asg | GAP: if you are logged into the remote machine and want to copy a file to another system (i.e. the one you logged in from), 'ssh /path/to/file user@machineyouwanttocopyfileto' |
| 01:33.33 | asg | s/ssh/scp/ |
| 01:33.40 | fax0 | FieldySnuts: yes i do need to move from kernel 2.2 to 2.4 first , what i want to do is only to use an alcatel speed touch usb |
| 01:33.57 | GAP | asg: Ok that makes more sense... let me try |
| 01:34.05 | asg | GAP: if not, 'scp user@remotemachine:/path/to/file .' (to copy a remote file to your local dir) |
| 01:34.06 | fax0 | FieldySnuts, what would it change to move from 2.2 to 2.6 ? |
| 01:34.08 | konnik | green-ears: while stable never worked in 10 tries |
| 01:34.16 | solarce_ | fax0: everything |
| 01:34.19 | green-ears | konnik: nice one and by the look of things it should point you to sarge |
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| 01:34.36 | fax0 | solarce_ : so much ? ^^ |
| 01:34.38 | GAP | asg: I dont actually know what to put in as the name of my home machine, I guess my ip adress? |
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| 01:34.45 | FieldySnuts | fax0: i have no idea, usb "modems" in general aren't going to work because the usb interfaces are often proprietary. but i could be wrong. if you have an ethernet intefface on it, use that and save yourself a ton of frustration. |
| 01:34.49 | binary_dreamer | could somebody tell me how to set hdparm for /dev/hda6? i am kinda new, and looking for help. please? |
| 01:34.51 | asg | GAP: are you logged into the remote machine right now? |
| 01:34.56 | GAP | yea |
| 01:34.59 | malucia | hello.. I'm having problems with the installation of Debian in a sparc (ultra1) |
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| 01:35.08 | asg | GAP: then yes, your home machine name or ip will do. |
| 01:35.11 | konnik | green-ears: its downloading lots of files now... looks good - at least right now |
| 01:35.13 | FieldySnuts | hdparm -flags /dev/hda (you use it on drives, not partitions) , man hdparm |
| 01:35.17 | fax0 | FieldySnuts, it s indicated that in 2.4 u have the speed touch usb modem driver included, but it needs some script to work |
| 01:35.18 | green-ears | konnik: you are becoming install skilled |
| 01:35.27 | dan2 | asg! |
| 01:35.27 | FieldySnuts | neat |
| 01:35.32 | snakesqzns | guys where can i find a good netinst cd iso? |
| 01:35.35 | asg | dan2: hiya |
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| 01:35.41 | malucia | could anybody help me |
| 01:35.43 | asg | snakesqzns: /msg dpkg netinst |
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| 01:35.49 | dan2 | asg: hey man |
| 01:35.50 | fax0 | sweet :) |
| 01:35.56 | green-ears | konnik: so sarge is doing the job ? |
| 01:36.06 | snakesqzns | thanks |
| 01:36.07 | asg | dan2: how are things in your neck of the woods |
| 01:36.11 | binary_dreamer | FieldySnuts, what flags shall i use? i read man hdparm, but i do not what to choose? |
| 01:36.21 | dan2 | asg: writing my own sip proxy registrar |
| 01:36.22 | konnik | green-ears: yes... still downloading |
| 01:36.30 | asg | dan2: you dog you :) |
| 01:36.47 | dan2 | asg: I have a sleeping disorder apparently |
| 01:37.02 | dan2 | asg: I can only get to sleep when I am truely exhausted |
| 01:37.08 | green-ears | konnik; the net install is good |
| 01:37.09 | asg | dan2: like my wife. |
| 01:37.17 | GAP | asg: ok, it worked but I dont know what directory it put it in... I searched around /tmp and a few other places. I dont know how to use a search program, I think "find xyz" is one but it never seems to search beyond my current directory |
| 01:37.29 | malucia | Have you ever worked with debian-sparc |
| 01:37.31 | FieldySnuts | binary_dreamer: i'm not going to hold your hand, sorry. |
| 01:37.35 | dan2 | asg: whats the name of it called? |
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| 01:37.37 | asg | GAP: it should be in your home directory (~) |
| 01:37.47 | asg | dan2: insomnia (chronic) |
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| 01:38.01 | dan2 | asg: ok, thats what I have, what kind of a doctor do I see for this? |
| 01:38.21 | GAP | asg: like /home/greg ? its not in there.... |
| 01:38.22 | konnik | green-ears: brb ... need to reboot |
| 01:38.27 | asg | dan2: look for a sleep specialist; your local university might have a good sleep center. |
| 01:38.31 | abrotman | dan2: drink more |
| 01:38.37 | dan2 | abrotman: hah |
| 01:38.39 | green-ears | konnik; ok |
| 01:38.42 | asg | GAP: what exact command did you type? what directory where you in locally when you typed it? |
| 01:38.54 | dan2 | asg: I should probably see my doc, and have him redirect me |
| 01:39.04 | asg | dan2: that would be advisable. |
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| 01:39.10 | abrotman | dan2: you want to see pyschologist/psychiatrist or ... the sleep doctor .. whats his name .. nephrology? |
| 01:39.14 | Bazz | hi I just installed debian with the debian kernel 2.6.5-k7 |
| 01:39.40 | asg | abrotman: sonambulist (I prefer phrenologists though) |
| 01:39.44 | Bazz | it just sits there for a while when it hits: |
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| 01:39.54 | Bazz | hdi: no response |
| 01:39.56 | abrotman | dan2: or perhaps you should try something like excersizing . like maybe an hour before bed |
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| 01:40.02 | Bazz | hdk: no response |
| 01:40.10 | Bazz | I think it's just not detecting device |
| 01:40.11 | Bazz | s |
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| 01:40.26 | abrotman | dan2: one other thing .. i find that if im on the computer until *right* before bed .. i have a hard time falling asleep |
| 01:40.32 | Bazz | but is there a way to get the kernel not to look for these devices without recompiling the kernel? |
| 01:40.44 | dan2 | asg: benedryl helped a lot the past few nights... |
| 01:40.46 | Bazz | (again this is a standard debian kernel |
| 01:40.53 | asg | dan2: allergies? |
| 01:41.01 | abrotman | asg: no .. it makes you sleepy |
| 01:41.04 | dan2 | asg: no, the main ingrediant is the same in most sleep aides |
| 01:41.12 | asg | abrotman: yes but it is for allergies. |
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| 01:41.35 | asg | dan2: why not take a sleep aid? |
| 01:41.41 | abrotman | dan2: i really find that computing til you crawl in bed .. i personally usually can't sleep for at least an hour if not more |
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| 01:41.52 | abrotman | too many sparkles in my head :) |
| 01:41.59 | dan2 | asg: same thing? its on my shelf |
| 01:41.59 | stefan | trying to compile a gnome applet i keep getting "/bin/sh: line 1: no: command not found" after the line "file=./`echo es | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo && rm -f $file && PATH=../src:$PATH no -o $file es.po" - what's wrong there? ./configure doesn't complain... |
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| 01:42.38 | konnik | green-ears: back ... and, yeah the net install is nice... i wouldnt want to do floppys for the whole install |
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| 01:42.44 | abrotman | dan2: other alternative .. get a girlfriend .. get laid before bed :) |
| 01:42.53 | Doc_Spiff | I'am getting the following message : Locale not supported by C library. Using the fallback 'C' locale. How can I set locale correctly? |
| 01:42.55 | asg | dan2, abrotman: speaking of sleep, night :) |
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| 01:43.02 | abrotman | asg: sleeptime? |
| 01:43.05 | abrotman | !sleeptime |
| 01:43.06 | GAP | asg: sorry someone came over... umm I think I put in the wrong ip adress.. 1 sec |
| 01:43.11 | asg | abrotman: yes :) |
| 01:43.29 | asg | GAP: I have to crash, someone else will finish up helping though. |
| 01:43.30 | abrotman | asg: night |
| 01:43.33 | asg | abrotman: night |
| 01:43.35 | GAP | thanks |
| 01:43.44 | green-ears | konnik: so have you got the command line yet |
| 01:43.44 | GAP | how do I find out what my ip adress is? |
| 01:43.45 | T_VoiD | stefan: it's looking for a command called "no" that should hopefully be found in the modified PATH but isn't for some reason. dunno what's this "no" command :) |
| 01:43.47 | dan2 | asg: don't leave! |
| 01:44.00 | abrotman | dan2: haha .. now you are alone with me! |
| 01:44.00 | konnik | green: its still downloading... |
| 01:44.09 | dan2 | abrotman: hehe |
| 01:44.09 | abrotman | and 714 other people |
| 01:44.13 | green-ears | konnik: ok that sound good |
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| 01:44.31 | dan2 | abrotman: actually I hadn't had time to badger him on a project we should have started monthes ago |
| 01:44.34 | Bazz | can anyone help me? |
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| 01:44.36 | tak | can you install rpms in debian? |
| 01:44.37 | green-ears | konnik: you are build a monster |
| 01:44.38 | konnik | green-ears: oh starts to unpack now... ;) |
| 01:44.43 | abrotman | !tell tak about alien |
| 01:44.45 | stefan | t_void: there IS no command "no", at least no in the debian database :( |
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| 01:45.07 | green-ears | konnik: what in the room your in ? monster |
| 01:45.10 | Bazz | I just installed the debian 2.6.5-k7 kernel |
| 01:45.11 | abrotman | Bazz: #debian-boot |
| 01:45.13 | T_VoiD | stefan: but there might be one in ../src after some compilation |
| 01:45.43 | Bazz | abrotman: is that a chat room specially devoted to that topic? |
| 01:45.46 | konnik | green-ears: hm? which room? |
| 01:45.51 | GAP | how do I find out what my ip adress is? |
| 01:46.01 | stefan | t_void: doesn't look so. there's nothing in src that looks as if it would become "no"... |
| 01:46.09 | slacker | GAP: ifconfig as root |
| 01:46.16 | T_VoiD | stefan: maybe you're starting the command from the wrong dir? |
| 01:46.18 | green-ears | konnik; where you are joke |
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| 01:46.32 | stefan | t_void: the "make"? |
| 01:46.34 | T_VoiD | stefan: and i wrote ../src , not src |
| 01:46.46 | abrotman | Bazz: yes |
| 01:46.50 | stefan | t_void: okay, sorry. there's no ../src |
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| 01:46.59 | konnik | green-ears: dont speak english natively... i often dont get such jokes |
| 01:47.08 | green-ears | konnik; ok |
| 01:47.11 | T_VoiD | stefan: bah my bad it's src in the end :) |
| 01:47.12 | daxxar | hm, oident doesn't seem to be forwarding requests, atleast it replies with NO-USER |
| 01:47.15 | fax0 | is it better to get to kernel 2.6.5 ? |
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| 01:47.24 | daxxar | anyone know why? (i've got pidentd running on the masqueraded machines) |
| 01:47.31 | stefan | T_VoiD: :) |
| 01:47.33 | green-ears | konnik; i speek but tell bad jokes |
| 01:47.33 | GAP | slacker: ifconfig show my local LAN ip adress, will that work with scp? |
| 01:47.34 | T_VoiD | stefan: well look in the install/readme/faq about this missing no command. try google |
| 01:47.35 | konnik | green-ears: only school english ... not much slang n such things |
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| 01:48.00 | stefan | T_VoiD: i did, no luck so far. but i'll look harder :) |
| 01:48.04 | Chromakode | !start a distro war |
| 01:48.04 | dpkg | Progeny is lame! |
| 01:48.10 | green-ears | konnik; and still more download ? |
| 01:48.12 | Chromakode | :) |
| 01:48.22 | FieldySnuts | !start an mua war |
| 01:48.23 | dpkg | elm owns |
| 01:48.26 | phogg | isn't progeny defunct? |
| 01:48.27 | konnik | green-ears: right now its installing the kernel |
| 01:48.34 | karsten | !progeny |
| 01:48.35 | dpkg | i guess progeny is Debian-based GNU/Linux distribution company specializing in custom packaging. http://www.progeny.com/, or see progeny installer |
| 01:48.42 | slacker | GAP: if you are wanting your public address, run a traceroute to your favourite website. The first IP address should be your public |
| 01:48.45 | green-ears | konnik; sounds very good |
| 01:48.58 | slacker | ifconfig /all |
| 01:49.05 | Chromakode | !start a editor war |
| 01:49.06 | slacker | wrong window |
| 01:49.15 | FieldySnuts | an editor war |
| 01:49.19 | fax0 | does kernel 2.6.5 rox ? |
| 01:49.19 | abrotman | slacker: wrong os :) |
| 01:49.19 | Chromakode | !start an editor war |
| 01:49.20 | dpkg | ae bites |
| 01:49.22 | Chromakode | right |
| 01:49.23 | phogg | slacker: ifconfig /all ?! WHat is this, NT? |
| 01:49.27 | FieldySnuts | !start a shell war |
| 01:49.28 | dpkg | tcsh is better than bsh |
| 01:49.36 | Chromakode | !start a browser war |
| 01:49.36 | dpkg | Opera is cooler than emacs w3! |
| 01:49.37 | trippy | su - |
| 01:49.38 | trippy | aiv8Dair |
| 01:49.47 | Chromakode | !start a bot war |
| 01:49.47 | slacker | abrotman: i wanted to see if that worked in linux |
| 01:49.48 | FieldySnuts | best change that. |
| 01:49.48 | dpkg | debhelper is way better than apt |
| 01:49.53 | FieldySnuts | haha |
| 01:49.55 | Chromakode | !start a bot war |
| 01:49.57 | trippy | FieldySnuts: :) |
| 01:49.57 | slacker | abrotman: it doesnt |
| 01:49.59 | abrotman | slacker: ifconfig -a |
| 01:50.07 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: botabuse? |
| 01:50.07 | dpkg | lay off me you buggerererers!!11! |
| 01:50.10 | Chromakode | that wasn't what it said last time... ;P |
| 01:50.11 | phogg | !start a thumb war |
| 01:50.12 | Chromakode | !start a bot war |
| 01:50.13 | dpkg | Eggdrops may do TCL but RockBot is smooth |
| 01:50.18 | Chromakode | aha! |
| 01:50.20 | slacker | abrotman: thanks |
| 01:50.34 | Chromakode | !start a desktop war |
| 01:50.35 | dpkg | Enlightenment: the choice for the -smarter- debian user. |
| 01:50.50 | Chromakode | !start a music war |
| 01:50.53 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: start a fs war |
| 01:50.56 | dpkg | Deep Purple sucks! |
| 01:50.57 | trippy | !start a nuclear war |
| 01:50.58 | dpkg | ext2 is better than NTFS!! |
| 01:50.59 | konnik | green-ears: about done.. |
| 01:51.00 | Chromakode | haha |
| 01:51.01 | FieldySnuts | haha |
| 01:51.10 | Chromakode | awesome :) |
| 01:51.10 | FieldySnuts | geez all bases covered |
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| 01:51.18 | Chromakode | !start a kernel war |
| 01:51.25 | fax0 | great shot :) |
| 01:51.30 | Chromakode | aha |
| 01:51.31 | dpkg | Alan is a usurper; long live Linus, the One True Linux Kernel Hacker! |
| 01:51.39 | FieldySnuts | oh geez |
| 01:51.41 | fax0 | hehe |
| 01:52.01 | green-ears | konnik ; ok |
| 01:52.02 | Chromakode | !start a language war |
| 01:52.05 | dpkg | csh is more readable than Oberon |
| 01:52.09 | Chromakode | ok that's it |
| 01:52.11 | Chromakode | :D |
| 01:52.13 | FieldySnuts | heh <dpkg> Led Zeppelin blows! |
| 01:52.19 | joe232 | ~nickometer dpkg |
| 01:52.19 | apt | 'dpkg' is 0.000% lame, joe232 |
| 01:52.19 | karsten | !start a war war |
| 01:52.24 | Chromakode | that bot is way too smart |
| 01:52.29 | FieldySnuts | @hug karsten |
| 01:52.29 | trippy | I was thinking of english vs spanish or something |
| 01:52.38 | jpvinall | green-ears: you advised me a few hours ago to run konppix on my computer to look at :/etc/X11/XF86Config-4. i can't find or run any program called konppix. but looking at the config file, it all looks normal (it's set up just like the man page shows). anyway, here's what startx spits out: "(II) SAVAGE: driver (version 1.1.16)...... (EE) No devices detected Fatal server error. no screens found. any advice? |
| 01:52.42 | trippy | karsten? |
| 01:52.44 | GAP | slacker: well im trying to move a file to my system... its "scp /path/path/filename Greg@myipadress:filename" right? |
| 01:52.45 | Chromakode | dpkg: where can I find blender? |
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| 01:52.50 | dpkg | parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Chromakode |
| 01:52.58 | trippy | karsten: self? |
| 01:53.08 | stefan | T_VoiD: oh, interesting: ./configure seems to put to "no" fields in config.status which, afterwards, make tries to execute... |
| 01:53.08 | Bazz | abrotman: there does not seem to be anyone around in debian-boot |
| 01:53.18 | joe232 | ~nickometer Chromakode |
| 01:53.18 | apt | 'Chromakode' is 0.000% lame, joe232 |
| 01:53.20 | Bazz | abrotman: can you or anyone else help me? |
| 01:53.22 | FieldySnuts | !badger Chromakode |
| 01:53.23 | dpkg | Chromakode: BadgerBadgerBadgerBadgerBadgerBadgerMushroomMUSHROOMBadgerBadgerBadgerBadgerSnaaaaaaaaakkeeeASnaaaaake |
| 01:53.28 | Chromakode | hahaha |
| 01:53.40 | Guerin | !blaireau FieldySnuts |
| 01:53.43 | FieldySnuts | er |
| 01:53.49 | green-ears | jpvinall: its me how spell it wrong, i find the link |
| 01:53.52 | dpkg | FieldySnuts: blaireau blaireau blaireau blaireau champignon champignon blaireau blaireau blaireau blaireau blaireau oooh un serpeeeent! |
| 01:53.57 | Chromakode | !topic Chromakode |
| 01:53.58 | jpvinall | thanks |
| 01:54.03 | karsten | trippy: Same. |
| 01:54.06 | FieldySnuts | !topicsmite Chromakode |
| 01:54.07 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon Chromakode. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 01:54.11 | slacker | GAP: are you behind a router? |
| 01:54.13 | Chromakode | ah, right :D |
| 01:54.15 | GAP | yea |
| 01:54.17 | konnik | green-ears: rebooting the box... now im getting excited ;) |
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| 01:54.32 | jpvinall | btw, what does the konppix prog do? |
| 01:54.35 | Bazz | hi I just installed the 2.6.5-k7 kernel |
| 01:54.37 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: analintrude knoppix |
| 01:54.38 | trippy | karsten: Heh. Only voice of sanity here then, I remember you from debian-user many years ago. |
| 01:54.45 | GAP | slacker: yea |
| 01:54.45 | Chromakode | that is suck an awesome bot |
| 01:54.47 | Bazz | (the stardard debian kernel) |
| 01:54.51 | T_VoiD | stefan: oh you think configure put no instead of an other command? |
| 01:54.57 | Bazz | and when I'm booting it will hang for a long time when it's tring to detect device I don't have |
| 01:54.58 | karsten | trippy: This is the point where I ask if I know you from somewhere, and you say: "Prison?" |
| 01:55.00 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: analintrude SCO |
| 01:55.00 | karsten | trippy: Ah. |
| 01:55.03 | slacker | GAP: just login to your router and check the settings |
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| 01:55.08 | Bazz | ie |
| 01:55.08 | Bazz | <Bazz> "hdi: no response (status = 0xfe) |
| 01:55.08 | Bazz | <Bazz> is there a way to get the kernel not to scan for these devices without recompiling |
| 01:55.09 | slacker | fuck SCO |
| 01:55.15 | FieldySnuts | !mhallsmite SCO |
| 01:55.16 | trippy | karsten: No, I was to quiet to be above the radar. |
| 01:55.17 | dpkg | Fuck SCO. Fuck it in the asshole with a big rubber dick. |
| 01:55.27 | slacker | i agree |
| 01:55.27 | GAP | slacker: Im not sure how, its not really mine. |
| 01:55.27 | Chromakode | lol |
| 01:55.28 | slacker | well said |
| 01:55.46 | stefan | t_void: yes. i think it's looking for some part of ettext but can't find it. funny. |
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| 01:55.51 | T_VoiD | GAP,slacker: if you can connect from home to remote, why do you insist on copying from remote to home when you can type a command to do the same from home? |
| 01:55.52 | stefan | gettext, even |
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| 01:55.59 | green-ears | jpvinall: http://www.knoppix.org/ |
| 01:56.06 | karsten | trippy: Anyhow, just checking out the scene. |
| 01:56.13 | Chromakode | what will give a list of commands dpkg will take? I know help, but that doesn't seem to show everything... |
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| 01:56.41 | green-ears | jpvinall; spelling is not my best |
| 01:56.42 | slacker | T_VoiD: what are you talking about.. GAP wants to know what his public ip is |
| 01:56.48 | redloff | hi, how to ls files that do *not* math a given pattern ? |
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| 01:56.54 | GAP | T_VoiD: Because I dont know what Im doing, good suggestion though... |
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| 01:57.00 | redloff | s/math/match/ |
| 01:57.00 | T_VoiD | slacker: and why does he want? i followed before |
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| 01:57.02 | karsten | redloff: man ls. -I option. |
| 01:57.08 | redloff | karsten° thx |
| 01:57.11 | slacker | i must have logged in late |
| 01:57.12 | slacker | my bad |
| 01:57.25 | T_VoiD | GAP: is your final goal to get a file copied? |
| 01:57.25 | Kontrol | hello.. i need some help.. i just installed debian.. and i have an error when i try to run the command Startx, to load X server |
| 01:57.26 | corr | redloff, the first thing that comes to my mind is 'ls -1 | grep -v %pattern" |
| 01:57.29 | jpvinall | thanks |
| 01:57.30 | Kontrol | can you help me? |
| 01:57.32 | corr | s/"/' |
| 01:57.33 | GAP | T_VoiD: yea |
| 01:57.44 | Guerin | Kontrol: what error? |
| 01:57.51 | T_VoiD | GAP: don't type the scp command on the mail server. type it on your home machine |
| 01:57.54 | GAP | T_VoiD: Im just trying to copy my mail from a mail server to my home machine |
| 01:57.57 | Kontrol | Fatal server error: |
| 01:57.57 | Kontrol | failed to initialize core devices |
| 01:58.04 | Kontrol | that's the error... |
| 01:58.12 | Guerin | Kontrol: and does it list some core devices? |
| 01:58.12 | T_VoiD | GAP: of course parameters have to be changed accordingly |
| 01:58.17 | redloff | corr and karsten how about regex, I want to use mplayer on files that do not start with "i" |
| 01:58.25 | slacker | Kontrol: ive had nothing but issues with that as well. I have never gotten Debian to successfully work with my old video card and LCD monitor |
| 01:58.34 | redloff | normally I would type mplayer * |
| 01:58.40 | slacker | i did a HD install of Knoppix 3.4 and i love it |
| 01:58.46 | corr | redloff, i do not know |
| 01:58.49 | FieldySnuts | that ls command | xargs -n 1 mplayer - |
| 01:58.49 | redloff | ok |
| 01:58.51 | Kontrol | i don't have an lcd monitor... |
| 01:58.57 | T_VoiD | slacker: sorry about it, I didn't know you arrived after :) |
| 01:58.57 | Kontrol | (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice |
| 01:58.58 | Kontrol | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:59.01 | redloff | ah, xargs |
| 01:59.04 | Kontrol | (EE) PreInit failed for input device "Configured Mouse" |
| 01:59.06 | slacker | im just saying... ive had issues with X and debian |
| 01:59.08 | redloff | thx |
| 01:59.16 | Kontrol | (EE) Configured Mouse: cannot open input device |
| 01:59.16 | Guerin | Kontrol: ok, your mouse is not configured properly |
| 01:59.20 | Chromakode | Kontrol: looks like you've got your mouse input device misconfigured |
| 01:59.22 | FieldySnuts | !flood Kontrol |
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| 01:59.27 | Kontrol | how do i configure it right? |
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| 01:59.36 | corr | man, tetex-doc is 27.5MB |
| 01:59.36 | FieldySnuts | laggy bos |
| 01:59.37 | FieldySnuts | ts |
| 01:59.41 | corr | thats frickin huge :\ |
| 01:59.47 | Chromakode | Kontrol: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 ? |
| 01:59.48 | daxxar | wtf is up with identd? |
| 01:59.52 | green-ears | Kontrol: dpkg-reconfigure xserer-xfree86 this is to get to the setup for xsever |
| 01:59.57 | Chromakode | daxxar: it's dumb |
| 02:00.00 | Kontrol | thanx!!!! |
| 02:00.05 | Kontrol | i'll try that... |
| 02:00.12 | Guerin | Kontrol: also mdetect can detect your mouse and write proper settings for you |
| 02:00.25 | Kontrol | if it doesn't work i'll be back again |
| 02:00.26 | Kontrol | thanx |
| 02:00.28 | daxxar | Chromakode: obviously. |
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| 02:00.38 | daxxar | i've tried pidentd, midentd, gidentd and oidentd. |
| 02:00.42 | Chromakode | daxxar: lol |
| 02:00.42 | daxxar | (gidentd right now) |
| 02:00.47 | konnik | green-ears: ok...now im at the login |
| 02:00.51 | tempo | i am trying to create this floppy from disk-o-matic website for tlsp. i've tried various version, 5.0.11 and 5.2.2 trying to use the dfr-530tx - when i insert the floppy to the drive it loads and then gives me :F:F:F:F as the network address.. ideas why? |
| 02:00.52 | daxxar | behind oidentd masquerading ident |
| 02:00.53 | T_VoiD | GAP: you get it? when you typed ssh to connect to the mail machine, you'll use scp instead to copy a file from mail server |
| 02:00.58 | Guerin | corr: that's a small portion of the documentation available on the web, too |
| 02:01.03 | Kontrol | Guerin: victor:/var/log# mdetect |
| 02:01.03 | Kontrol | bash: mdetect: command not found |
| 02:01.09 | green-ears | konnik; can you ping |
| 02:01.19 | Guerin | Kontrol: you might have to install it |
| 02:01.19 | Kontrol | yes i can ping.. why? |
| 02:01.22 | corr | Guerin what kind of documentation is it? |
| 02:01.25 | corr | essential? |
| 02:01.28 | Chromakode | Kontrol: apt-get install mdetect |
| 02:01.29 | GAP | T_VoiD: Ok Im getting warmer I think, I tried "ssh Greg@remotemachine:/path/path/filename /home" but it says no such file or directory |
| 02:01.34 | green-ears | konnik; www.bbc.com |
| 02:01.38 | Kontrol | ok guerin |
| 02:01.40 | Guerin | corr: depends |
| 02:01.42 | tam | I'm having a problem with procmail: i'm reading a how-to and it told me create a IN-TESTING directory and i wrote a recipe for it to send spam to that directory, but since making that dir i don't get mail. i use exim, Maildir format and mail is sent to ~/Maildir/cur (where all the msg's are) |
| 02:01.47 | tam | can anyone help? |
| 02:01.50 | Guerin | corr: it's probably all the doc you'll ever need |
| 02:02.02 | konnik | green-ears:sec... thought i should reboot first.. |
| 02:02.04 | Guerin | corr: but I found some online docs were better, like: |
| 02:02.11 | green-ears | konnik; ok |
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| 02:02.13 | T_VoiD | GAP: a typo somewhere? |
| 02:02.22 | corr | Guerin im doing a dist-upgrade and i need to dl like 130mb more over dialup... i dunno if i'd rather just rm all the tetex stuff for now |
| 02:02.29 | Guerin | corr: http://www.tug.org/tex-archive/info/beginlatex/html/ |
| 02:02.49 | Guerin | corr: yeah, that's tough |
| 02:02.49 | corr | Guerin i like this vim plugin that is like online documentation |
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| 02:02.57 | T_VoiD | GAP: you know you have to change /path/path/filename to the actual location ? |
| 02:03.09 | trippy | corr: But how will you get to the top of the debian project without tetex? |
| 02:03.19 | corr | cause i code tex in vim, and it lets you ctrl-] on stuff and it will go into the tex doc plugin |
| 02:03.23 | Guerin | corr: if you don't use it much, might be better to remove it now, then get it overnight when you do need it, later |
| 02:03.28 | fax0 | does somebody knows a good kernel tutorial ? |
| 02:03.28 | internet | does anyone uses direqcafe? |
| 02:03.30 | corr | trippy, all things have their place. tex will come later. |
| 02:03.36 | daxxar | aha, seems that oidentd doesn't forward properly. |
| 02:03.37 | konnik | green-ears: well... i cant ping |
| 02:03.51 | corr | Guerin :) which pkg should i rm to rm all tetex stuff? -base? |
| 02:04.00 | green-ears | fax0: so now apt-get update |
| 02:04.45 | GAP | T_VoiD: Its not my mail server... but I did a cd/ and typed cd home cd greg and the file mbox is my compressed mail. so Im using /home/greg/mbox but it still says its not there |
| 02:04.45 | Guerin | corr: I dunno, I never have - but that should probably do it |
| 02:04.45 | konnik | green-ears: ifconfig showed up nothing, but iconfig eth0 up set it up |
| 02:04.45 | green-ears | fax0: sorry |
| 02:04.45 | fax0 | green-ears np dude |
| 02:04.45 | konnik | green-ears: hm... anyway i still cant ping |
| 02:04.45 | Guerin | corr: do apt-get --dry-run remove <pkg> to see what it'll take with it |
| 02:04.52 | GAP | T_VoiD: no such file or directory it says |
| 02:04.53 | corr | ok |
| 02:05.01 | green-ears | konnik; so apt-get update ? |
| 02:05.04 | corr | hmm |
| 02:05.05 | corr | oops |
| 02:05.11 | cypher` | how do i download all the images in a dir on a http with wget? |
| 02:05.20 | corr | i have testing in my sources.list and now everytime i try to remove something it wants to install a bunch of stuff |
| 02:05.34 | T_VoiD | GAP: try this instead: ssh greg@remotemachine "ls /home/greg/mbox" |
| 02:05.42 | GAP | T_VoiD: I did just "mbox" and it comes back with /home/mbox permission denied |
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| 02:06.15 | cypher` | i thought it was just wget -r but it just downloadds the index.html and stops |
| 02:06.21 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: cluebat T_VoiD and GAP |
| 02:06.26 | T_VoiD | GAP: well fix the rights and don't try to copy to /home either. copy it to /tmp |
| 02:06.27 | GAP | T_VoiD: It says no such file or directory... weird |
| 02:06.49 | konnik | green-ears: done... but dont think it does anything as long as i cant even ping |
| 02:06.53 | T_VoiD | GAP: so look where is your file |
| 02:07.04 | cypher` | ??? |
| 02:07.07 | Kontrol | Guerin: victor:/var/log# dpkg-reconfigure xserer-xfree86 |
| 02:07.07 | Kontrol | Package `xserer-xfree86' is not installed and no info is available. |
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| 02:07.10 | T_VoiD | FieldySnuts: feel free to add a constructive comment |
| 02:07.12 | green-ears | konnik; and apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 02:07.31 | Kontrol | where can i get that? |
| 02:07.34 | konnik | green-ears: 0 0 0 0 |
| 02:07.49 | internet | anyone have problems with direqcafe? |
| 02:08.11 | Guerin | Kontrol: it's a type |
| 02:08.13 | abrotman | internet: gives me the hershey squirts |
| 02:08.13 | Guerin | typo |
| 02:08.15 | T_VoiD | GAP: do copy test with simple examples. put some file in /tmp and copy it to /tmp well try something |
| 02:08.26 | cypher` | HOW do i download all the files in a directory from a http with wget? |
| 02:08.27 | Guerin | Kontrol: should be xserver-xfree86 |
| 02:08.28 | T_VoiD | GAP: i give up btw |
| 02:08.31 | GAP | T_VoiD: the file is in /home/greg and its called mbox, I checked several times |
| 02:08.35 | abrotman | cypher`: man wget |
| 02:08.42 | green-ears | konnik; ok now its the xserver that needs installing, xserver for the video |
| 02:08.44 | Guerin | cypher`: try the -g option |
| 02:08.47 | cypher` | abrotman: i have |
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| 02:08.55 | GAP | T_VoiD: thanks... anyway |
| 02:08.55 | Kontrol | Guerin? |
| 02:09.00 | corr | hmm |
| 02:09.06 | cypher` | abrotman: wget -r doesnt work so it must be something else |
| 02:09.10 | Guerin | cypher`: gives you globbing power, but I haven't used it |
| 02:09.28 | Guerin | Kontrol: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 02:09.29 | green-ears | konnik; apt-get install x-window-system |
| 02:09.35 | internet | abrotman: i have a inconsistency detected by ld.so |
| 02:09.39 | cypher` | Guerin: ta |
| 02:09.43 | Guerin | Kontrol: note the "v" in xserver |
| 02:09.49 | corr | darn |
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| 02:10.12 | abrotman | cypher`: i thnik it is |
| 02:10.16 | cypher` | Guerin: basically i want to download everythiung in members.westnet.com.au/jorjet27/images/liaoz/ |
| 02:10.17 | T_VoiD | GAP: ok one last thing. on mailserver, what's the result of: which scp |
| 02:10.25 | konnik | green-ears: i cant ping anything |
| 02:10.29 | Guerin | cypher`: go on then |
| 02:10.35 | croddy | does anyone know of a way to make redhat's Bluecurve KDE theme work on sid? and would I do better to ask in #debian-kde? |
| 02:10.37 | konnik | green-ears: and it doesnt find the package |
| 02:10.43 | GAP | T_VoiD: it finally worked, I dont understand why this time and not the others.... |
| 02:10.44 | green-ears | konnik; its the same |
| 02:10.46 | Guerin | croddy: no and yes |
| 02:10.51 | T_VoiD | ok |
| 02:10.59 | GAP | T_VoiD: thanks!! |
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| 02:11.32 | cypher` | abrotman: huh? |
| 02:11.33 | green-ears | konnik; with ifconfig can you see the card info ? |
| 02:11.46 | abrotman | cypher`: its in the man page how to do it .. i just dont remember how |
| 02:11.48 | internet | abrotman: could you help me please |
| 02:11.54 | abrotman | cypher`: you're looking to spider |
| 02:11.57 | konnik | green-ears: after i ran ifconfig eth0 up, yes |
| 02:12.04 | abrotman | internet: ? |
| 02:12.19 | cypher` | abrotman: ok ta |
| 02:12.23 | green-ears | konnik; so the cards now got a ip |
| 02:12.23 | T_VoiD | tam: there's a debug option in procmailrc . turn debug on to get the detail of what rules are finally used by procmail |
| 02:12.30 | Kontrol | i'm new in debian.. how do i install xserer-xfree86? |
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| 02:12.42 | T_VoiD | tam: can't remember the name of this option/command |
| 02:12.58 | konnik | green-ears: actually, there is no ip listed |
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| 02:13.20 | internet | abrotman: about the problem with direqcafe |
| 02:13.36 | abrotman | internet: i have no idea what that is |
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| 02:13.50 | green-ears | konnik; type dhcp i think i right |
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| 02:14.08 | Guerin | Kontrol: there is NO SUCH THING |
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| 02:14.25 | konnik | green-ears: dhcp: command notfound |
| 02:14.25 | Chromakode | Kontrol: xserver-xfree86 |
| 02:14.26 | Guerin | Kontrol: I already told you, xserer-xfree86 was a typo |
| 02:15.15 | Kontrol | Chromakode: that's the same thing i wrote! |
| 02:15.21 | Kontrol | isn't it? |
| 02:15.28 | Guerin | Kontrol: NO |
| 02:15.37 | green-ears | konnik; sorry i can not think of the command to get a ip from your router and its dns |
| 02:15.44 | ThatGuy | I'm trying to turn on dma hdparms at boot up and I'm not familiar and can't seem to understand how to make a shell script execute at boot up,,/etc/rcS.d and in init.d and how to make this one little line work |
| 02:15.44 | Kontrol | why not? |
| 02:15.46 | Guerin | Kontrol: check what you wrote for a v - you won't find one |
| 02:15.47 | KrytenX | xserer != xserver |
| 02:15.48 | T_VoiD | tam: found it back: LOGFILE=somelogfile . now check what happened, it's in somelogfile |
| 02:15.58 | Chromakode | !lart xserer |
| 02:16.02 | cowbud | konnik: try pump |
| 02:16.02 | T_VoiD | tam: put that as 1st line |
| 02:16.04 | ThatGuy | hdparm -c 1 -d 1 /dev/hda |
| 02:16.17 | Kontrol | ops.. thanx |
| 02:16.25 | konnik | cowbud: pump: cmd not found |
| 02:16.41 | Guerin | konnik: try installing it |
| 02:16.44 | Guerin | FFS |
| 02:16.49 | cowbud | konnik: /sbin/pump |
| 02:17.01 | ThatGuy | will someone help me out with that |
| 02:17.08 | cowbud | or are you running these as root already? |
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| 02:17.29 | konnik | sbin pump not found either |
| 02:17.38 | green-ears | konnik; so i will say my bye and all the best. you will sort it out |
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| 02:17.58 | konnik | green... oh... couldnt even say thans |
| 02:17.59 | learning | konnik, what are you trying to do? |
| 02:18.10 | Guerin | konnik: can you read? |
| 02:18.12 | konnik | trying to get apt to download |
| 02:18.22 | konnik | yes... but cant install |
| 02:18.23 | learning | konnik, to download what? |
| 02:18.29 | konnik | anything |
| 02:18.46 | konnik | right now it wont download at all... |
| 02:18.50 | ThatGuy | anyone in here have dma enabled at bootup |
| 02:18.54 | quitte_ | hi. i got a ricoh caplio g3 cam here. i already found out it should be supported, but i can't find out what kernel module i'm missing. |
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| 02:19.18 | learning | konnik, telling me it wont install doesnt tell me anything. ask a real question |
| 02:19.24 | konnik | so my problem is to get the network running |
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| 02:19.35 | learning | konnik, ok, what kind? |
| 02:19.36 | Bellano | hi |
| 02:19.37 | wOODSHIt | c u |
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| 02:19.40 | konnik | i already got eth0 up but it doesnt have an ip |
| 02:19.48 | learning | konnik, dhcp? |
| 02:20.05 | konnik | you mean as command? |
| 02:20.07 | konnik | not found |
| 02:20.11 | Bellano | guys. i've set my eth0 settings in /etc/networks/interfaces. i used to have the ip 10.0.0.3 assigned to it. now i changed it. but whenever i reboot, it always go back to my old ip. any idea how to fix this? |
| 02:20.15 | quitte_ | anyone got an idea what module to load for this usb cam? |
| 02:20.17 | learning | konnik, no, i'm asking if it uses dhcp or static |
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| 02:20.31 | konnik | should be assigned by the router |
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| 02:20.37 | Kontrol | i'm configuraton xfree... and it ask me for the mouse port device.. how is called the serial port for the mouse? |
| 02:20.45 | tam | T_VoiD: already had that enabled. but doesn't give any info |
| 02:20.47 | trippy | quitte_: digital camera or webcam? |
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| 02:20.52 | learning | konnik, as root: dhclient eth0 |
| 02:20.53 | T_VoiD | Bellano: it's surely set in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 02:20.55 | Kontrol | or /dev/input/mice |
| 02:20.55 | abrotman | Bellano: etherconf |
| 02:20.56 | quitte_ | trippy digital camera |
| 02:21.24 | trippy | quitte_: Have you got anything else working with usb? |
| 02:21.33 | konnik | great ;) |
| 02:21.37 | konnik | works now |
| 02:21.43 | Bellano | T_Void:that's what i do. but that doesn't seem to change a damn thing |
| 02:21.51 | learning | konnik, go have fun. now you might want to run 'tasksel' |
| 02:21.53 | cypher` | greed: doesnt work |
| 02:21.55 | cypher` | HOW do i download all the files from a http folder? |
| 02:21.57 | quitte_ | trippy the host controller should work, but i got nothing else connected at the moment. |
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| 02:22.03 | dondelelcaro | !doesn't work |
| 02:22.04 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 02:22.13 | T_VoiD | Bellano: hum, try what told abrotman |
| 02:22.16 | trippy | quitte_: You probably want usb-storage and sd_mod, which should let you access it as a scsi device |
| 02:22.17 | dondelelcaro | cypher`: if you can see all of the files, you can use wget. If not, you can't |
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| 02:22.40 | quitte_ | trippy ok thanks. |
| 02:22.47 | cypher` | dondelelcaro: i can.. |
| 02:22.51 | T_VoiD | Bellano: you could as well try: fgrep -rl 10.0.0.3 /etc :)) |
| 02:23.01 | Guerin | quitte_: you might also want to check that it works as usb mass storage as well - some cameras don't, and they're a pain |
| 02:23.01 | cypher` | dondelelcaro: goto http://members.westnet.com.au/jorjet27/images/liaoz/ |
| 02:23.11 | dondelelcaro | cypher`: then man wget, and do something like wget -r -l 1 -nd -np -nH http://members.westnet.com.au/jorjet27/images/liaoz/ |
| 02:23.31 | Bellano | abrotman>:what`s etherconf? |
| 02:23.47 | snerfu | Thats a pretty good retort for "doesn't work," I like that. |
| 02:24.04 | cypher` | dondelelcaro: it just always seems to save the index.html |
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| 02:24.23 | Bellano | T_VoiD:what's weird, when i boot, i see my interface getting its IP via dhcp. when i log in, i do ifconfig eth0, and its the wrong ip |
| 02:24.24 | dondelelcaro | cypher`: that's because you're not adding the -r and -l options. |
| 02:24.36 | quitte_ | Guerin where can i do that? i looked at a link from the gphoto webpage, but it doesn't list a lot of information except supported cameras |
| 02:24.39 | cypher` | dondelelcaro: the index.html has a weird javascript redirect |
| 02:24.43 | cypher` | dondelelcaro: i am |
| 02:24.50 | Fnyar | Question: When compiling the kernel, does it hurt to have had done make modules and make modules_install BEFORE doing make bzImage? |
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| 02:25.08 | cypher` | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:25.15 | Guerin | quitte_: IIRC the gphoto site has a comprehensive list of cameras and what driver / storage mechanism they use |
| 02:25.18 | learning | Fnyar, how about you use make-kpkg instead |
| 02:25.29 | quitte_ | Guerin ok. will look some more |
| 02:25.29 | dondelelcaro | cypher`: so then read the script, and pull stuff from http://members.westnet.com.au/jorjet27/images/liaoz/dir.asp |
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| 02:26.10 | Fnyar | learning: I'm trying to compile the kernel /not/ the Debian way...this is my first recompile too. |
| 02:26.12 | T_VoiD | Bellano: you mean it's still 10.0.0.3 ? |
| 02:26.18 | Guerin | quitte_: I don't have here, but I spent hours trying to get my mum's canon A40 working on mass storage, only to find out it uses its own driver/transport combo |
| 02:26.29 | learning | Fnyar, the debian way is the easier of the two ways. but go have fun and do whatever you want |
| 02:26.35 | dondelelcaro | Fnyar: you can compile the kernel the normal way, but the debian way is generally better. |
| 02:26.53 | cypher` | dondelelcaro: yup added dir.asp to the end of the command you gave me and its pulling them down :) |
| 02:26.54 | Fnyar | can I select the stuff I want compiled the debian way? |
| 02:27.01 | dondelelcaro | Fnyar: yes. |
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| 02:27.19 | Kontrol | Guerin: i fixed the mouse.. but now the problem is: |
| 02:27.29 | Kontrol | Fatal error: no screens found |
| 02:27.39 | learning | Fnyar, make menuconfig or however you wanna do it. then once the config is saved, 'make-kpkg kernel_image'. that's it. then dpkg -i the deb |
| 02:27.41 | Guerin | Kontrol: now you need to configure your screens |
| 02:27.41 | Kontrol | i don't know why it isn't working |
| 02:27.45 | dondelelcaro | Fnyar: make menuconfig; make-kpkg clean; make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot --revision $(date +'%Y%m%d') --append-to-version $(hostname) clean kernel_image; |
| 02:27.47 | Kontrol | i did that |
| 02:27.55 | Bellano | T_VoiD:yeah its always taht ip..when i reboot. even if i get 172.16.3.2 by dhcp |
| 02:27.59 | Guerin | Kontrol: what did you select as options in reconfig? |
| 02:28.09 | T_VoiD | Bellano: ok i'll use my powerful "up" key |
| 02:28.10 | cypher` | is there a way i can screen a currently running process without stoping it? |
| 02:28.11 | T_VoiD | Bellano: you could as well try: fgrep -rl 10.0.0.3 /etc :)) |
| 02:28.13 | Fnyar | learning: Can I install with apt alternatively? Or do I need to use dpkg? |
| 02:28.15 | dondelelcaro | cypher`: no. |
| 02:28.20 | daxxar | hm. i'm running DNAT/MASQUERADING and bidentd on my server, and pidentd on a box on the network. why does pidentd reply with ERROR : NO-USER no matter what? =/ |
| 02:28.38 | learning | Fnyar, you need to use dpkg unless you make an apt repository (too much trouble). just dpkg -i kernelimage.deb |
| 02:28.40 | dondelelcaro | Fnyar: apt doesn't currently support going apt-get install ./path/to/deb |
| 02:28.42 | cypher` | dondelelcaro: ctrl+z and the screen fg 1? :\ |
| 02:28.42 | Kontrol | 800*600 60Hz and 640*480 |
| 02:28.43 | T_VoiD | Bellano: type it. any file name in the results might be involved in your troubles |
| 02:28.48 | cypher` | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:28.49 | dondelelcaro | cypher`: doesn't work that way. |
| 02:28.50 | konnik | thanks for all the help ;) going to sleep now |
| 02:28.51 | cypher` | oops |
| 02:28.52 | Kontrol | 'cause it's and old pc |
| 02:28.58 | cypher` | dondelelcaro: ok :) |
| 02:29.10 | Kontrol | and i selected 8 Mb for video |
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| 02:29.24 | dondelelcaro | not that it really matters anyway... there's no difference between the two. |
| 02:29.29 | Bellano | T_VoiD:did that |
| 02:29.58 | Bellano | T_VoiD_10.0.0.3 is not set anywhere |
| 02:29.58 | Guerin | Kontrol: you might want to try typing xf86config as root |
| 02:30.08 | T_VoiD | daxxar: since identd is so much non firewall/nat friendly, usually you need the same special identd both on the nat router and on the client behind |
| 02:30.09 | dondelelcaro | yeesh. |
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| 02:30.17 | dondelelcaro | !tell Kontrol about set up x |
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| 02:30.25 | dondelelcaro | Kontrol: follow those instructions. |
| 02:30.27 | T_VoiD | daxxar: bidentd + pidentd won't work together |
| 02:30.39 | mazzie | hey guys, apache says it can't start cause there's no fully qualified hostname |
| 02:30.42 | mazzie | how can i fix0r this? |
| 02:30.48 | daxxar | T_VoiD: thanks =) |
| 02:30.52 | Fnyar | Can anyone explain why I get the warning when running lilo? |
| 02:30.54 | Fnyar | Warning: Int 0x13 function 8 and function 0x48 return different |
| 02:30.54 | Fnyar | head/sector geometries for BIOS drive 0x80 |
| 02:30.56 | FieldySnuts | edit it's main config, visit httpd.apache.org and read the docs too |
| 02:31.04 | T_VoiD | daxxar: now if you don't care about the exact ident, you can put a dumb-mode identd on the nat box by using 3 shell lines |
| 02:31.19 | T_VoiD | daxxar: hold on i have that somewhere :) |
| 02:31.25 | Googliano | add a hostname to httpd.conf |
| 02:31.32 | Guerin | mazzie: you can fix0r it by specifying a fqdn in httpd.conf |
| 02:31.41 | daxxar | T_VoiD: I know, or just install slidentd =) |
| 02:31.44 | mazzie | okie dokie! |
| 02:31.47 | mazzie | thx. |
| 02:32.03 | T_VoiD | daxxar: you won't beat that simple: |
| 02:32.17 | T_VoiD | daxxar: read -r i ; { echo -n "$i"|tr -d '\r\n'; /bin/echo -e -n " : USERID : UNIX : $IRCUSER\r\n"; |
| 02:32.35 | T_VoiD | daxxar: doh my cut/paste went wrong. well i'll /msg it you |
| 02:32.37 | Googliano | anyone know what source I can add to sources.list to pull down openssh with apt? |
| 02:32.46 | dondelelcaro | Googliano: just apt-get install ssh |
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| 02:33.36 | Googliano | dondelelcaro: I did but it says no package found, or something. Maybe I just don't have the right sources listed... |
| 02:33.46 | dondelelcaro | !info ssh |
| 02:33.52 | dpkg | ssh: (Secure rlogin/rsh/rcp replacement (OpenSSH)), section net, is standard. Version: 1:3.8p1-3 (sid), Packaged size: 696 kB, Installed size: 1656 kB |
| 02:34.19 | dondelelcaro | Googliano: then run apt-setup; make sure you have a debian mirror selected, run apt-get update; and then attempt to install it... |
| 02:34.41 | Googliano | dond. I'll try, thank you |
| 02:34.51 | dondelelcaro | np |
| 02:35.08 | Bellano | T_VoiD:its an old box i had at work. which had several ip aliases. and i had forgotten about a script in ~ that set those IPs. i removed it, and now it should be fine |
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| 02:35.48 | Googliano | I wasn't aware of the apt-setup command, I'm new to debian. It appears to be working, thanks again |
| 02:35.49 | cfawcett | can anyone help me understand how the new resolvconf system works?? I tried out the new sarge installer and now dhcp doesn't seem to set my dns properly |
| 02:36.08 | dondelelcaro | Googliano: yeah, that's the same command that gets run early in the installation... |
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| 02:37.47 | Googliano | dond. I just learned urpmi not too long ago. Now trying to master apt |
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| 02:38.09 | Googliano | I hear people say they like apt better |
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| 02:38.27 | dondelelcaro | Googliano: it's not really apt that they like better... it's policy that makes the whole Debian system better. |
| 02:38.36 | dondelelcaro | Googliano: try using aptitude. |
| 02:38.41 | Chromakode | oooh yeah :) |
| 02:39.09 | T_VoiD | Bellano: well glad you found |
| 02:39.26 | Googliano | dond. aptitude? Do u mean apt? |
| 02:39.32 | dondelelcaro | Googliano: no, I mean aptitude. |
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| 02:39.39 | Googliano | not familiar |
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| 02:39.40 | dondelelcaro | Googliano: apt-get install aptitude; aptitude; |
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| 02:39.50 | ElNooboStupido | anyone got any experience with cinelerra? |
| 02:39.55 | rogue-buddha | where can I find a list of all the topics '/msg dpkg xxxx' helps on? |
| 02:40.15 | dondelelcaro | rogue-buddha: you can't, because there are close to 20000 factoids. |
| 02:40.22 | dondelelcaro | !status |
| 02:40.23 | dpkg | Since Thu Apr 15 06:31:58 2004, there have been 348 modifications, 8909 questions, 2594 dunnos, 61 morons and 3171 commands. I have been awake for 23d 20h 8m 25s this session, and currently reference 23418 factoids. I'm using about 18896 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 4733/204.98 child 4056.43/246.38 |
| 02:40.31 | dondelelcaro | make that 23418 factoids |
| 02:40.33 | idnarhtim | dpkg: your factoids |
| 02:40.36 | Chromakode | 61 morons? |
| 02:40.46 | Chromakode | is that a scientific statement? :) |
| 02:40.50 | dpkg | your factoids is, like, at http://rzlab.ucr.edu/~dpkg/ |
| 02:40.53 | Guerin | Chromakode: sounds kinda low to me |
| 02:40.58 | Chromakode | very |
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| 02:41.11 | dondelelcaro | !moron Chromakode |
| 02:41.12 | dpkg | Chromakode: You are moron #13 |
| 02:41.18 | Chromakode | nooo |
| 02:41.22 | idnarhtim | heh |
| 02:41.24 | idnarhtim | !status |
| 02:41.24 | dpkg | Since Thu Apr 15 06:31:58 2004, there have been 348 modifications, 8911 questions, 2594 dunnos, 61 morons and 3172 commands. I have been awake for 23d 20h 9m 27s this session, and currently reference 23418 factoids. I'm using about 18896 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 4733.25/205 child 4056.43/246.38 |
| 02:41.30 | Chromakode | !idiot dpkg |
| 02:41.36 | idnarhtim | dpkg: blah blah blah blah asdf qwer qwer qwer qwer foo bar bar foo foo bar blah blah blah blah |
| 02:41.42 | idnarhtim | oops |
| 02:41.44 | Chromakode | lol |
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| 02:41.47 | idnarhtim | dpkg: aoenthaoeuitnahou nthaoui blah blah blah blah asdf qwer qwer qwer qwer foo bar bar foo foo bar blah blah blah blah |
| 02:41.47 | dpkg | You are moron #62, idnarhtim |
| 02:41.53 | idnarhtim | there we go |
| 02:41.54 | LoRez | guys, quit screwing with the bot |
| 02:41.56 | Chromakode | haha |
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| 02:42.05 | idnarhtim | LoRez: ok, ok, keep your hair on ;) |
| 02:42.09 | rogue-buddha | dondelelcaro: man I wish I had written down that /msg dpkg command for xwindows tips, I can't remember it |
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| 02:42.29 | dondelelcaro | rogue-buddha: /msg dpkg help; specifically, see the listkeys and listvals commands... |
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| 02:42.51 | Wuffi600 | can i use apt-get to remove some packages and install some packages in a single command? |
| 02:43.03 | daxxar | iirc, apt-get remove package1 +package2 |
| 02:43.04 | dondelelcaro | Wuffi600: yes. man apt-get and read about the - and + modifiers |
| 02:43.14 | Wuffi600 | dondelelcaro: thanks |
| 02:43.22 | rogue-buddha | dondelelcaro: thanks I'll look |
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| 02:44.47 | Wuffi600 | dondelelcaro: can't '+' in man-page |
| 02:44.47 | dogayonv | I have 2 questions, I just installed debian on a Dell Inspiron 8200 Laptop, working great except for 2 things, 1 Is there a way I can make it so anyone can use the shutdown command or be able to shutdown the system from KDE? I chose that option inside of kde but it still doesnt work. Its a laptop I set up for my wife so she can learn linux. And the 2nd question GPM isnt starting for some reason when her system starts, How can I h |
| 02:44.48 | Googliano | dondelelcaro. I did an apt-get install ssh. It finds it now. But is this openssh? Does this come with sshd? |
| 02:44.55 | dondelelcaro | Googliano: yes, and yes. |
| 02:45.10 | Googliano | dond. Your the best, thanks! |
| 02:45.20 | FieldySnuts | <3 don |
| 02:45.23 | dondelelcaro | Wuffi600: it's in the remove section. [- is in the install section] |
| 02:45.24 | T_VoiD | Wuffi600: you can \+ hehe |
| 02:45.58 | idnarhtim | Wuffi600: I think the man page uses the words 'plus' and 'minus', not the symbols |
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| 02:46.17 | Kontrol | how do i set up apt-get so it can download from the sources in sources.list? 'cause it ask for the debian cd =/ |
| 02:46.19 | T_VoiD | uses symbol and you can search it with / to start the search then \+ |
| 02:46.20 | dondelelcaro | dogayonv: man shutdown for the first, [/etc/shutdown.allow] and it's probably an option for kdm for the latter. |
| 02:46.25 | jjja | hi, someone help me wiyh debian-ppc jre? |
| 02:46.39 | Wuffi600 | dondelelcaro: now i have found it, thanx |
| 02:46.45 | Wuffi600 | idnarhtim: thanx, that's it |
| 02:47.11 | dogayonv | Oh I see alright thanks for the info dondelelcaro |
| 02:47.16 | ElNooboStupido | if I want to autodetect my hardware I install hotplug ? |
| 02:47.40 | dondelelcaro | dogayonv: if you're using gpm, just apt-get install gpm. If it's not starting, it's probably because you've removed the /etc/init.d/gpm. apt-get --reinstall -o Dpkg::options="--force-confmiss" gpm |
| 02:47.41 | Kontrol | can someone help me set up apt-get to use sources.list? 'cause it only look inside the debian cd |
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| 02:47.57 | dondelelcaro | Kontrol: run apt-setup |
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| 02:48.02 | Kontrol | thnx |
| 02:48.49 | T_VoiD | dogayonv: for 1st command, it's a privilege issue. you have to be root to use shutdown, hum maybe (to be tested) you could suid root the shutdown command. of course this is a security issue |
| 02:48.58 | jjja | How can I configure jre in debian-ppc |
| 02:49.15 | daxxar | or sudo! :D |
| 02:49.20 | dondelelcaro | jjja: same way you'd configure it for i386, if someone even has a jre for ppc yet. |
| 02:49.29 | dondelelcaro | jjja: classpath might do what you're looking for... |
| 02:49.30 | T_VoiD | hum doh of course hehe |
| 02:49.49 | dogayonv | Thanks alot for the help appreate your time |
| 02:49.54 | dondelelcaro | yeah, sudo is probably better than shutdown.allow... *shrug* |
| 02:49.55 | T_VoiD | dogayonv: or better as told daxxar sudo (now i think about, or super) |
| 02:50.21 | T_VoiD | dogayonv: for gpm you'd have to give more infos |
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| 02:51.07 | jjja | de IBMSDK don't work? |
| 02:51.23 | dondelelcaro | jjja: we don't support IBM's SDK... |
| 02:51.40 | jjja | uuupps |
| 02:51.44 | jjja | thanks |
| 02:52.24 | dash | i'm trying to set up X with my radeon, so i'm doing "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86". But it's not generating a new XF86Config-4 file. What gives? |
| 02:52.50 | dondelelcaro | dash: follow the instructions in /msg dpkg set up x |
| 02:53.30 | dash | just say no to the frame buffer, eh |
| 02:53.31 | dondelelcaro | dash: in short, dpkg-reconfigure will not reconfigure X if you've modified the XF86Config-4 |
| 02:53.34 | dash | lovely |
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| 02:53.45 | dondelelcaro | dash: if you have to have FB, you want it... but if you don't, you don't. |
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| 02:53.56 | dash | dondelelcaro: Yeah, I noticed. Anyway to fix that? I tried the md5sums trick |
| 02:54.06 | Wuffi600 | a question: can i copy files from a machine's /var/cache/apt/archives to another machine's /var/cache/apt/archives to reduce internet-traffic? does it work? |
| 02:54.18 | dondelelcaro | dash: that's what the dpkg -P xserver-xfree86; apt-get install xserver-xfree86 does. |
| 02:54.20 | dash | Wuffi600: yeah, there's also apt-move and apt-proxy |
| 02:54.28 | dash | dondelelcaro: yay =/ |
| 02:54.30 | Wuffi600 | dash: thanx |
| 02:54.32 | dash | dondelelcaro: guess i'll do that now |
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| 02:57.38 | Wuffi600 | dash: when will apt's caches be deleted? |
| 02:58.01 | croddy | tomorrow |
| 02:58.05 | dash | heh |
| 02:58.11 | croddy | apt-get clean |
| 02:58.38 | Wuffi600 | dash: is there some automatism that deletes old files in /var/cache/apt/archives? |
| 02:59.02 | dash | Wuffi600: I forget |
| 02:59.09 | dash | Wuffi600: in general, i think not |
| 02:59.18 | gcbirzan | how do you get aptitude to forget I told it to install certain packages? |
| 02:59.28 | ElNooboStupido | if I want deb to autodetect my hardware do I install hotplug? |
| 02:59.35 | dondelelcaro | gcbirzan: use - to deselect them |
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| 02:59.44 | Wuffi600 | dash: will i confuse apt-get if i delete some old packages in /var/cache/apt/archives? |
| 02:59.48 | dondelelcaro | ElNooboStupido: no, discover is what does that. |
| 02:59.49 | gcbirzan | dondelelcaro: Yes, but from the command line? |
| 02:59.52 | dash | Wuffi600: No. |
| 02:59.58 | Wuffi600 | dash: thanks a lot |
| 03:00.10 | ElNooboStupido | dondelelcaro, ok im trying to make a bootable cd |
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| 03:00.17 | dondelelcaro | gcbirzan: aptitude markauto foo; or aptitude remove foo; |
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| 03:00.43 | dondelelcaro | Wuffi600: apt-get autoclean; and/or apt-get clean; is probably what you're looking for... |
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| 03:01.09 | Wuffi600 | dondelelcaro: thanky |
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| 03:01.49 | alainm | wow, what a day of trying to get this linksys wireless card working.. and still no luck |
| 03:01.52 | Fnyar | When running lilo I get the following wardning: |
| 03:01.54 | Fnyar | Warning: Int 0x13 function 8 and function 0x48 return different |
| 03:01.54 | Fnyar | head/sector geometries for BIOS drive 0x80 |
| 03:02.04 | Fnyar | can anyone explain what this is? |
| 03:02.18 | dondelelcaro | Fnyar: yes, that means your bios is returning two different geometries for the drive from two different commands. |
| 03:02.25 | dondelelcaro | Fnyar: in general it's not supposed to be doing that. |
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| 03:02.53 | dondelelcaro | Fnyar: but if lilo works, you can ignore it. |
| 03:03.06 | Fnyar | dondelelcaro: well, I think I might have messed something up by flashing the bios |
| 03:03.11 | Fnyar | dondelelcaro: but, lilo does work. |
| 03:03.26 | dondelelcaro | Fnyar: possible... you might have the wrong drive type selected... |
| 03:03.33 | Fnyar | dondelelcaro: I'm just a little scared that it won't work when I try and edit lilo.conf with a new kernel. |
| 03:03.35 | dondelelcaro | LBA when it should be NRM or whatever... |
| 03:03.46 | Fnyar | hmm, it's an older 7GB |
| 03:03.47 | dondelelcaro | Fnyar: well, if you've run lilo, and it's working, it'll work then. |
| 03:03.55 | gcbirzan | dondelelcaro: I did aptitude install kde gnome, it's now trying to install umpteen packages I don't want. ( I forgot to specify --download-only :-() |
| 03:04.12 | Fnyar | dondelelcaro: maybe I can mess with changing the drive type and rerunning lilo |
| 03:04.25 | dondelelcaro | gcbirzan: so just aptitude remove kde gnome, and all of the automatically installed packages will be marked to remove as well. |
| 03:04.36 | Wuffi600 | apt-get is a wonderful thing!!! |
| 03:04.58 | Fnyar | dondelelcaro: It doesn't neccessiarily have anything to do with lilo - it's just a way of producing the error. |
| 03:05.14 | gcbirzan | dondelelcaro: But they're not installed. Do I have to install them? |
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| 03:05.48 | dondelelcaro | gcbirzan: no... that should just mark them appropriately. |
| 03:05.59 | Invisible_Optiks | So the VI that is defaulty included with Debian, is that an old version or somehow a different version or something like that? Th reason I ask is it just doesn't seem as nice as say the one that comes with Fedora? Or am I mistaken and the one that is in fedora is a different program or something like that? |
| 03:06.02 | gcbirzan | dondelelcaro: It doesn't. It says they're not installed, so they won't be removed. |
| 03:06.25 | dondelelcaro | gcbirzan: well, run aptitude; and figure out what it's done. It's just ncurses, so it shouldn't be a big deal. |
| 03:06.33 | somiaj | Invisible_Optiks: debian stable is a bit old, but I think your talking about vim or gvim (not pure vi) |
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| 03:06.54 | Invisible_Optiks | somiaj: I'm running Sarge, but I think you may be right about the vim |
| 03:07.06 | T_VoiD | gcbirzan: ok i read some of aptitude doc. it happens it tracks dselect status and will update its own if it changes. i have a script to reset dselect changes, so aptitude will follow |
| 03:07.48 | gcbirzan | It doesn't have a feature for doing it itsaelf? Hm. |
| 03:07.49 | Invisible_Optiks | somiaj: Is there any advantage of vim over vi? Like of course they will have differences, but it isn't like telnet vs ssh where telnet is old and should not be used is it? |
| 03:07.51 | T_VoiD | !listkeys flatten |
| 03:07.53 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'flatten' by key (2 shown): flatten ;; flatten-dselect.awk. |
| 03:07.57 | somiaj | Invisible_Optiks: yea the version of vim should be comperable to that in fedora, you probably want the package vim (and vim-gtk if you want an X gui for it) |
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| 03:08.40 | Googliano | anyone know the source name to install openldap? apt-get install ldap, openldap finds nothing |
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| 03:09.07 | somiaj | Invisible_Optiks: vim = vi improved, its a lot more user friendly and is usually a lot easier to get along with, but they are both text editors so you are more than welcome to suit your fancy. |
| 03:09.15 | mtnman | googliano: try apt-cache search |
| 03:09.29 | GAP | how do I install a .deb package? |
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| 03:09.41 | somiaj | GAP: man dpkg |
| 03:09.43 | mtnman | gap: dpkg -i foo.deb (man dpkg) |
| 03:09.48 | WALoeIII | dkpg -i |
| 03:10.15 | GAP | ok thanks... |
| 03:10.27 | GAP | Im trying to install wine |
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| 03:10.35 | T_VoiD | (oh ok it also knows when to remove what it decided alone to install) |
| 03:10.48 | somiaj | GAP: you mean winex (wine is in debian, apt-get install wine) |
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| 03:11.08 | Googliano | mtnman apt-cache search dlap displays lots of ldap related file, but I don't see the ldap program. Wierd |
| 03:12.08 | GAP | ok |
| 03:12.22 | gcbirzan | T_VoiD: So, what is it? :-) |
| 03:12.29 | dampjam | What is the file you can add single lines of bash to that will execute on boot? |
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| 03:13.11 | mtnman | googliano: i don't know what you are trying to install. the openldap server? |
| 03:13.23 | Googliano | mtnman yes |
| 03:13.33 | Wuffi600 | how can i force apt-get to do the "removes" before the "installs" in "apt-get remove A B+"? |
| 03:13.35 | T_VoiD | Googliano: the generic name is "ldap-server" ok that has to be known . with apt-cache showpkg ldap-server , you get the list of what provides this virtual package. there seem to be only slapd atm |
| 03:13.42 | mtnman | dpkg find slapd |
| 03:13.44 | dpkg | Debian Package Listing of 'slapd' (2 shown): libslapd2-dev ;; slapd. |
| 03:14.14 | T_VoiD | gcbirzan: it's in a factoid :) |
| 03:14.25 | T_VoiD | dpkg tell gcbirzan about flatten-dselect.awk |
| 03:14.29 | mtnman | googliano: afaict, you want apt-get install slapd |
| 03:14.47 | T_VoiD | gcbirzan: want me to dcc it instead? ;) |
| 03:14.53 | Googliano | thanks. I have it install on mdk using the binary. Figured i would try to use apt instead with debian |
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| 03:15.01 | mtnman | googliano: if you did an apt-cache search openldap, you would have found it. |
| 03:15.23 | Googliano | I did but overlooked it I guess. Thank you |
| 03:15.52 | mtnman | googliano: you are welcome, but please double-check your work next time :) |
| 03:16.20 | T_VoiD | gcbirzan: the input of this script is /var/lib/dpkg/status, and you redirect the output to an other file. you backup the input then you replace it with the result |
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| 03:16.54 | Googliano | mtnman. Sorry. I am a single father of two girls. Time is hard to come by. I do my best to research what I can, buy sometimes it's just easier to ask. :) |
| 03:17.27 | mtnman | googliano: if you follow that line of reasoning, your time is more valuable than mine. |
| 03:17.52 | Googliano | mtnman. Whatever, thanks anyway |
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| 03:18.44 | T_VoiD | gcbirzan: be very sure to backup the file. if you damage it (heh you can't trust a script, can you?) you lose a lot of package info |
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| 03:19.48 | gcbirzan | T_VoiD: Yeah. :-) Thanks, I'll try this when I wake up. (I'm not exactly sober now, hehe) |
| 03:20.25 | T_VoiD | gcbirzan: this prevents dselect to think about any previous modification you asked it. from the README of aptitude, aptitude should track it and do the same |
| 03:20.47 | hyde | anyone know of a utility that will split a divx file |
| 03:21.05 | maria | try buying the legitimate copy :) |
| 03:21.18 | T_VoiD | gcbirzan: so i guess aptitude changes status too else how could it know... |
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| 03:22.27 | somiaj | hyde: mencoder |
| 03:22.33 | hyde | somiaj, thx |
| 03:22.43 | T_VoiD | gcbirzan: maybe you have first to do some wrong thing with dselect for aptitude to notice a change, then run this script only after to do a new change hehe |
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| 03:22.58 | TheSocial | Okay |
| 03:23.13 | TheSocial | My cd burner went ppfttt |
| 03:23.20 | TheSocial | I bought some disk |
| 03:23.27 | somiaj | TheSocial: did you let the smoke out? |
| 03:23.41 | TheSocial | went to burn the root.bin and rescue.bin |
| 03:23.43 | TheSocial | but they won't boot |
| 03:23.46 | TheSocial | help |
| 03:24.01 | TheSocial | I was using soulforge's disk writing utilty |
| 03:24.09 | TheSocial | anyone have another one that would work in xp? |
| 03:24.11 | somiaj | are you in windows or linux? |
| 03:24.20 | TheSocial | windows XP |
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| 03:24.36 | somiaj | hmm, been so long since |
| 03:24.39 | TheSocial | I can do it in lin though |
| 03:24.42 | TheSocial | I have slack |
| 03:24.49 | somiaj | I've used a windows app for such a thing, just use dd in slack |
| 03:24.54 | TheSocial | and a fat32 part I can pass files between |
| 03:24.55 | TheSocial | dd? |
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| 03:25.07 | TheSocial | thats on the debian doc somewhere right? |
| 03:25.20 | somiaj | TheSocial: dd - convert and copy a file, its a basic unix command to copy data |
| 03:25.48 | Justin | TheSocial: define "won't boot" |
| 03:26.01 | T_VoiD | TheSocial: you know most of the time you could use a floppy disk instead of a CD just as well |
| 03:26.04 | dampjam | ok so I compiled my own version of apache and modded hte /etc/init.d script sufficiently so that the paths are right but I want to run startssl instead of just start, anybody have an idea of where to put that argument? |
| 03:26.14 | TheSocial | I am using a floppy |
| 03:26.19 | TheSocial | sorry about the mixed term |
| 03:26.23 | TheSocial | it is a floppy |
| 03:26.27 | Kontrol | i run startx and it start loading KDE, but when its done then i get a gray screen... nothing happens |
| 03:26.28 | TheSocial | 1 is root |
| 03:26.39 | T_VoiD | TheSocial: oh ok |
| 03:26.42 | TheSocial | other is rescue |
| 03:26.46 | Justin | !tell TheSocial about enter |
| 03:26.47 | TheSocial | dd if=file of=/dev/fd0 bs=1024 conv=sync ; sync |
| 03:26.50 | TheSocial | look right? |
| 03:27.05 | Justin | TheSocial: tell someone _exactly_ what you typed, and _exactly_ what you did with the disks. |
| 03:27.14 | TheSocial | okay |
| 03:27.15 | dash | dondelelcaro: thanks for the help, got it working with vesa |
| 03:27.16 | dash | (sigh) |
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| 03:27.36 | TheSocial | I got the rescue and root .bins off of debian mirror |
| 03:27.50 | TheSocial | I went to http://sourceforge.net/projects/ntrawrite/ |
| 03:27.50 | Justin | which rescue and root .bins, there are a ton of them |
| 03:27.54 | TheSocial | and got that |
| 03:27.56 | TheSocial | compact |
| 03:27.57 | TheSocial | 1.44 |
| 03:28.03 | Justin | why did you get those 2? |
| 03:28.31 | TheSocial | sorry |
| 03:28.33 | TheSocial | I meant these |
| 03:28.34 | TheSocial | .../current/images-1.44/rescue.bin |
| 03:28.40 | TheSocial | thats the ones |
| 03:28.43 | TheSocial | and the root one |
| 03:28.47 | TheSocial | not the right ones? |
| 03:28.54 | Justin | get the bf2.4 ones |
| 03:29.04 | TheSocial | explain why please |
| 03:29.14 | thomas_adam | Because that's what the debian installer uses. |
| 03:29.16 | Justin | the install guide explains |
| 03:29.23 | Justin | you read the install guide, right? |
| 03:29.27 | TheSocial | !tell Justin about enter |
| 03:29.30 | TheSocial | sorry couldn't reset |
| 03:29.31 | TheSocial | :) |
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| 03:29.33 | TheSocial | kinda |
| 03:29.42 | thomas_adam | TheSocial: Don't be a prat. |
| 03:29.47 | thomas_adam | Kinda? |
| 03:29.49 | sime_ | how do i mount a floopy, what should be in /etc/fstab? |
| 03:29.56 | thomas_adam | Either you did or you didn't. |
| 03:30.02 | thomas_adam | sime_: man fstab |
| 03:30.20 | TheSocial | I picked and choose |
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| 03:30.28 | TheSocial | http://www.debian.org/distrib/floppyinst |
| 03:30.32 | thomas_adam | sime_: mount -o defaults /dev/fd0 /floppy |
| 03:30.41 | Croepha_ | how does one make a debian package? |
| 03:30.49 | TheSocial | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-appendix#s-file-descs |
| 03:30.53 | TheSocial | That page does not say which |
| 03:30.54 | thomas_adam | Croepha_: man dpkg-repack |
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| 03:31.08 | TheSocial | and the is the page the 1st link sent me to |
| 03:31.13 | TheSocial | so I guessed |
| 03:31.13 | g4lt | Croepha_ it's explained in the Debian Packaging Manual |
| 03:31.17 | thomas_adam | Croepha_: And then read the appropriate documentation. |
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| 03:32.04 | Justin | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-install-methods.en.html#s-create-floppy |
| 03:32.07 | Justin | 4.2.2 |
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| 03:33.19 | TheSocial | compact : These built in drivers allow you to take full advantage of the Debian installer's net install feature to install the driver floppies over the network so that only the root and rescue floppy disks need to be made |
| 03:33.24 | TheSocial | is that not what I need? |
| 03:33.38 | TheSocial | I do not really see the diff beside larger driver base |
| 03:33.43 | linagee | why do i get a "package netatalk has no available version, but exists in the database" error? i removed netatalk, but now i want to reinstall it.... |
| 03:33.44 | thomas_adam | TheSocial: Why don't you just do what the installer says? |
| 03:33.55 | thomas_adam | linagee: install the correct package name. |
| 03:34.04 | linagee | thomas_adam: ? |
| 03:34.20 | thomas_adam | linagee: It means the package name is almost correct. |
| 03:34.27 | linagee | thomas_adam: apt-cache search netatalk shows no netatalk package |
| 03:34.33 | somiaj | linagee: apt-cache search netatalk (maybe they package name changed) |
| 03:34.36 | linagee | thomas_adam: but it was there when i first installed it.... |
| 03:34.37 | thomas_adam | linagee: Bummer. |
| 03:34.37 | somiaj | never mind |
| 03:34.49 | T_VoiD | linagee: means it's no longer available . but it should be, means you have wrong apt sources or alike |
| 03:34.49 | somiaj | linagee: are you running sarge? |
| 03:34.52 | linagee | thomas_adam: it's like it's borked or something |
| 03:34.57 | linagee | somiaj: nope. stable all the way |
| 03:34.59 | thomas_adam | linagee: apt-get update |
| 03:35.07 | linagee | thomas_adam: did that |
| 03:35.13 | TheSocial | thomas_adam : I thought I was but the disk won't boot |
| 03:35.23 | TheSocial | and I did not see where I went wrong |
| 03:35.25 | thomas_adam | TheSocial: Then you did not follow the instructions. |
| 03:35.25 | TheSocial | so I came here |
| 03:35.25 | somiaj | linagee: hmm, package shouldn't disapear out of stable, did you ever have any unnofical sources in your sources.list |
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| 03:35.40 | linagee | somiaj: removed it because i thought i didn't have a new enough version. so i installed one into /usr/local. i realized the problem was unrelated and now i want netatalk back. :-/ |
| 03:35.47 | thomas_adam | linagee: Then you remember incorrectly. |
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| 03:35.52 | streuner | TheSocial: just stick the right floppy into the box. |
| 03:35.54 | thomas_adam | !tell linagee about backports |
| 03:35.56 | TheSocial | thomas_adam : I did but I am having probs writing this disk |
| 03:36.12 | TheSocial | which one is the starting? |
| 03:36.12 | TheSocial | root? |
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| 03:36.12 | TheSocial | rescue? |
| 03:36.12 | thomas_adam | TheSocial: This is not complicated, so why make it so? |
| 03:36.12 | TheSocial | root right? |
| 03:36.20 | streuner | no |
| 03:36.20 | thomas_adam | TheSocial: DO WHAT THE INSTALL GUIDE SAYS. |
| 03:36.30 | linagee | thomas_adam: aha. i think i did take out a few lines from sources.list at one time or another... |
| 03:36.34 | thomas_adam | Justin gave you the damn link, ffs. |
| 03:36.52 | thomas_adam | linagee: That would not surprise me. |
| 03:37.25 | linagee | thomas_adam: aha. i think it might have been in contrib or non-us |
| 03:37.39 | thomas_adam | linagee: Well, give it a go.... |
| 03:37.39 | linagee | thomas_adam: removed those thinking: "i'll never use those..." LOL |
| 03:37.47 | thomas_adam | linagee: Yeah. |
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| 03:37.57 | TheSocial | do you guys say anything but "read the manual" or "Read the installation guide" and link me back to the same pages I have already linked and said I am having problems with? |
| 03:38.01 | TheSocial | he said used the bf |
| 03:38.04 | TheSocial | I said okay |
| 03:38.07 | TheSocial | and asked why |
| 03:38.10 | TheSocial | no one answered |
| 03:38.12 | TheSocial | said read |
| 03:38.13 | TheSocial | I did |
| 03:38.21 | TheSocial | compact seems like what I needed |
| 03:38.30 | TheSocial | no on has yet to explain the diff |
| 03:38.39 | TheSocial | bf supports larger driver base to me |
| 03:38.47 | linagee | thomas_adam: i'm using dselect to add more sources. how do i find out other URLs it might have had? |
| 03:38.48 | TheSocial | compact is minimized |
| 03:38.55 | Justin | It provides support for newer hardware components which is absent in the other (more stable) flavors. It supports more USB hardware, USB keyboards/mice, modern IDE controllers, some new network cards, and Ext3 and Reiser file systems. |
| 03:38.57 | thomas_adam | TheSocial: The thing is, documentation is written so that we don't have to sit here and spit out what already has been written. It's a two-way process. You have to work so we can help. |
| 03:39.01 | Justin | for fucks sake learn how to read |
| 03:39.05 | T_VoiD | TheSocial: well i know (because i read it somewhere before and won't try to find it) that compact is good with scsi systems, and i'd use ide-pci for a home computer |
| 03:39.15 | linagee | thomas_adam: got http://http.us.debian.org/debian right now |
| 03:39.23 | linagee | (and that's it) |
| 03:39.32 | thomas_adam | linagee: That line is wrong. It's missing parts. |
| 03:39.32 | T_VoiD | or idepci or something with ide or pci in the name |
| 03:39.49 | Justin | idepci is the worst one possible to use |
| 03:39.51 | linagee | thomas_adam: using main contrib non-free |
| 03:40.05 | linagee | thomas_adam: i mean i had more URLs than that. bah. stupid me for touching them |
| 03:40.11 | thomas_adam | linagee: That's better. Now run "apt-get update && apt-get install <pkg>" |
| 03:40.23 | T_VoiD | TheSocial: now some people disagree, i haven't been installing a box for some times... |
| 03:40.27 | linagee | thomas_adam: that didn't do it. definitely one of the other URLS |
| 03:40.45 | TheSocial | ty T_VoiD |
| 03:40.46 | thomas_adam | linagee: You're on your own, matey. Good luck. :) |
| 03:40.51 | linagee | lol |
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| 03:41.10 | azreal | can someone point me to a current page about makeing a debian kernel? |
| 03:41.46 | azreal | ive never done it that way, and i want to try it so i can get some other stuff working, without too much trouble |
| 03:42.07 | streuner | azreal: newbiedoc.sf.net? |
| 03:42.16 | thomas_adam | azreal: http://www.hantslug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?LinuxHints/KernelCompiling |
| 03:42.37 | streuner | azreal: /msg dpkg kp? |
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| 03:43.10 | DarthPuff | YOU ALL LOVE ME |
| 03:43.17 | DarthPuff | =D |
| 03:43.33 | DarthPuff | o_O |
| 03:43.36 | DarthPuff | kinda quiet |
| 03:43.39 | T_VoiD | puffy has landed! |
| 03:43.46 | thomas_adam | DarthPuff: If you bendover backwards, I bet you could stick your dick up your arse, too. |
| 03:43.48 | azreal | http://www.hantslug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?LinuxHints/KernelCompilinghttp://www.hantslug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?LinuxHints/KernelCompilingDarthPuff: If you <thomas_adam> DarthPuff: If you bendover backwards, I bet you could stick your dick up your arse, too. |
| 03:43.48 | azreal | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:43.48 | azreal | <azreal> |
| 03:43.48 | azreal | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:44.00 | xzgv | linagee: what is the problem, i'm late reading it |
| 03:44.16 | thomas_adam | xzgv: Sorted now. Move on. |
| 03:44.32 | xzgv | ok |
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| 03:44.54 | DarthPuff | =\ whats sorted out |
| 03:45.05 | thomas_adam | azreal: That was stupid of you. |
| 03:45.10 | azreal | sorry bout that |
| 03:45.14 | azreal | my mouse is fucked up |
| 03:45.20 | thomas_adam | azreal: Evidentally. |
| 03:45.24 | azreal | thomas_adam: shit happens, i said sorry |
| 03:45.30 | thomas_adam | Orrather, the user using it is. |
| 03:45.37 | DarthPuff | or not |
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| 03:45.52 | snakesqzns | if i install from a woody cd, what' |
| 03:45.56 | thomas_adam | LoRez: Yes? |
| 03:46.03 | snakesqzns | s the best way ot update to testing |
| 03:46.07 | LoRez | you're being a tad abrasive tonight |
| 03:46.11 | azreal | can i plz ask for a repost of the page about compileing kernel? |
| 03:46.13 | snakesqzns | modify apt sources and update? |
| 03:46.15 | thomas_adam | !tell snakesqzns about woody->sarge |
| 03:46.29 | snakesqzns | these bots are so helpful |
| 03:46.42 | thomas_adam | LoRez: Sorry - it's this damn insomnia. Makes me irritable. |
| 03:46.49 | dondelelcaro | yes, we are all just bots in here... |
| 03:46.58 | snakesqzns | thanks, later |
| 03:47.04 | thomas_adam | We might as well be, dondelelcaro. |
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| 03:48.43 | chitiri_ | what is -fpie gcc directive for ? |
| 03:48.59 | dondelelcaro | chitiri_: you mean -fPIC? |
| 03:49.00 | linagee | thomas_adam: hahahaha. figured it out |
| 03:49.04 | thomas_adam | chitiri_: What dos the manpage suggest? |
| 03:49.08 | thomas_adam | linagee: Oh? |
| 03:49.09 | linagee | thomas_adam: it is stored in non-us |
| 03:49.13 | thomas_adam | :) |
| 03:49.17 | linagee | thomas_adam: i had us.debian.org sources. :) |
| 03:49.18 | Orlino | iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 113 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.0.2:133, does not seem to work for me, any hints |
| 03:49.36 | linagee | thomas_adam: LOL. it was a hard problem because it never said "can't get non-us from us.debian.org!" LOL |
| 03:49.40 | takisd | can i use cfdisk to repartition my drives on an existing system want to go from swap=hda1 root=hda2 to new settings of /boot=hda1 swap=hda2 root=hda3 ?? |
| 03:49.42 | LoRez | Orlino: port forwarding ident won't work. |
| 03:50.10 | Orlino | LoRez: why not, I am forwarding to my internal machine |
| 03:50.14 | T_VoiD | Orlino: identd is NAT UNFRIENDLY. got that? |
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| 03:50.26 | thomas_adam | takisd: http://www.hantslug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?LinuxHints/OneDiskToAnother |
| 03:50.35 | Fnyar | Question: I'm trying out a new kernel 2.4.26. I compiled everything manually and when the system starts up I get messages 'modprobe: Can't locate module ip_tables' and below that 'can't initalize table "filter". Does anyone know what option I didn't select in the menuconfig? |
| 03:50.36 | LoRez | Orlino: because the ports on your nat won't match the ports on your internal machine and so it'll never look you up properly |
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| 03:50.59 | Orlino | LoRez: its port 113 everwhere, so what you suggest? |
| 03:51.05 | chitiri_ | dondelelcaro: no, -fpie, i found it in a src.rpm of exim for fedora |
| 03:51.07 | takisd | thomas_adam: thanks |
| 03:51.08 | T_VoiD | Orlino: you wrote 113 and 133 |
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| 03:51.31 | T_VoiD | Orlino: but anyways you need a special identd, on both machines or it won't work (what? other machine is windows? sorry) |
| 03:51.43 | chitiri_ | thomas_adam: nothing about it in man page |
| 03:51.46 | corr | windows pwnz. |
| 03:51.56 | dondelelcaro | chitiri_: uh, well, it's not a documented gcc manpage. No clue what they're doing with it. |
| 03:51.57 | thomas_adam | chitiri_: Hmm. |
| 03:52.01 | LoRez | Orlino: I suggest not bothering with ident at all. I'm not speaking of the port the ident queries run on. ident works by asking who owns a port on a machine. the remote machine will ask about your NAT's outside port, not your internal host's port |
| 03:52.08 | Orlino | T_VoiD: dam, it had to be 113 |
| 03:52.10 | dondelelcaro | s/manpage/option/ |
| 03:52.23 | corr | hi lorez, how's your night goin |
| 03:52.39 | takisd | thomas_adam: only thing is, its not a new drive, same drive i want to move stuff around in and (try) not to lose anything in the process |
| 03:52.49 | jrr | apt-get install nullidentd |
| 03:52.58 | dondelelcaro | chitiri_: hey, it's fedora core.. what do you expect? |
| 03:53.11 | Orlino | LoRez: so its not doable |
| 03:53.16 | thomas_adam | takisd: You'd have to re-define /etc/inittab, and use a transient drive to move your data around, perhaps alos using 'resize2fs'? |
| 03:53.23 | thomas_adam | err.. |
| 03:53.30 | thomas_adam | .NOT /etc/inittab /etc/fstab |
| 03:53.37 | LoRez | Orlino: if you jump through sufficient hoops it is. but not by port forwarding. ident is not useful to the degree that it's worth the work. |
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| 03:53.53 | T_VoiD | dpkg in.fakeidentd is (run it from inetd): #!/bin/sh USERID=pickone ; read -r i ; { echo -n "$i"|tr -d '\r\n'; /bin/echo -e -n " : USERID : UNIX : $IRCUSER\r\n"; }|dd ibs=256 2>/dev/null |
| 03:53.54 | dpkg | okay, T_VoiD |
| 03:53.58 | Orlino | LoRez: need dalnet :) |
| 03:54.06 | T_VoiD | doh a typo |
| 03:54.08 | Wuffi600 | how can i make a selection what codepages to generate before configuring package locales? Is there a file in /etc that i could edit? |
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| 03:54.09 | dondelelcaro | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:54.10 | corr | i never really got the purpose of identd |
| 03:54.22 | Orlino | T_VoiD: it wont work even same ports different machines |
| 03:54.30 | T_VoiD | dpkg no, in.fakeidentd is (run it from inetd): #!/bin/sh IRCUSER=pickone ; read -r i ; { echo -n "$i"|tr -d '\r\n'; /bin/echo -e -n " : USERID : UNIX : $IRCUSER\r\n"; }|dd ibs=256 2>/dev/null |
| 03:54.31 | dpkg | okay, T_VoiD |
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| 03:54.35 | takisd | thomas_adam: ok got it. will however using cfdisk to repartition mess things up so i lose stuff... how dangerous? |
| 03:54.37 | LoRez | Orlino: dalnet is not sufficiently useful to require ident :) |
| 03:54.44 | simonrvn | heh |
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| 03:55.03 | thomas_adam | takisd: Not very. But YMMV. |
| 03:55.04 | T_VoiD | Orlino: just run this program in the nat box and it will have all identd queries working (even if they shouldn't have) |
| 03:55.05 | Orlino | LoRez: hmmm, hard to argue that, just bugging me this problem :) |
| 03:55.12 | dondelelcaro | hrm... that was exciting... getting screen to lock is always a good thing... |
| 03:55.25 | takisd | thomas_adam: ok... here goes.... |
| 03:55.27 | thomas_adam | <-- bed. |
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| 03:55.33 | Orlino | T_VoiD: nah, I use Mirc in wi$ |
| 03:55.38 | LoRez | Orlino: there are ident daemons that fake a positive response. I'd suggest running one on your gateway |
| 03:55.49 | T_VoiD | Orlino: it will have mirc working too :) |
| 03:55.51 | corr | roz? goth roz? |
| 03:55.55 | Orlino | LoRez: ok can you suggest one :) |
| 03:55.58 | corr | it can't be. |
| 03:56.06 | T_VoiD | Orlino: oh but mirc itself is a dumb client, so your redirection might work |
| 03:56.23 | Orlino | T_VoiD: nah does not |
| 03:56.26 | T_VoiD | Orlino: not dumb as bad, i mean dumb as "doesn't analyze the identd query" |
| 03:56.35 | chitiri_ | dondelelcaro: lamentably I remote admin a rh9 server, at my local office every server were migrated to debian |
| 03:56.39 | LoRez | Orlino: not really. apt-cache search ident # might work |
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| 03:56.52 | daxxar | Orlino: apt-cache search identd |
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| 03:57.10 | daxxar | apt-get install slidentd is such a stupid daemon, iirc. |
| 03:57.13 | daxxar | anyway, heading to bed. |
| 03:57.14 | chitiri_ | only left the god damn rh9, miles away from me |
| 03:57.16 | daxxar | s/stupid/dumb/ |
| 03:57.18 | T_VoiD | LoRez: i just wrote a factoid with such a fake identd in 4 lines of shell script |
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| 03:57.34 | rjames | Got a potato box here. I need to allow telnet access. There has to be an easy way to do this---anyone? |
| 03:57.45 | LoRez | T_VoiD: I really don't care. maybe Orlino does. |
| 03:58.05 | T_VoiD | LoRez: yea but you didn't read either that i told him :) |
| 03:58.06 | rjames | Please? |
| 03:58.19 | mtnman | rjames: you really don't want telnet access over the internet. |
| 03:58.32 | rjames | Its on a fucking lan, and thank you, I'll worry about my own gear. |
| 03:58.46 | LoRez | rjames: apt-get install telnetd |
| 03:58.52 | mtnman | rjames: then fucking apt-get install telnetd. |
| 03:58.56 | rjames | rjames: But does it enable by default? |
| 03:58.57 | somiaj | rjames: you will probably have to check out archives.debian.org to find a telnetd package for potato |
| 03:59.00 | Orlino | LoRez: I will try apt-cache search identd |
| 03:59.04 | dondelelcaro | chitiri_: time for debtakeover... |
| 03:59.16 | g4lt | T_VoiD s/pickone/'usr\/bin\/rig' ;) |
| 03:59.18 | Orlino | thanx LoRez and T_VoiD |
| 03:59.36 | rjames | LoRez: Suppose I want to do the same with ssh. There's no sshd package. |
| 03:59.38 | dondelelcaro | chitiri_: it's quite posisble to remotely install debian on a machine... but if you've never done it, you might want to test it out first... |
| 03:59.46 | LoRez | rjames: it's just ssh |
| 03:59.51 | T_VoiD | Orlino: really, i tested the script I wrote, it works |
| 03:59.55 | roz | what corr? |
| 03:59.55 | rjames | Like that makes alot of fucking sense. |
| 03:59.57 | T_VoiD | g4lt: nice one! |
| 03:59.58 | Dr_Willis | sshd is in the open-ssh package paerhaps. |
| 04:00.08 | mtnman | rjames: calm down please. |
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| 04:00.32 | rjames | One sec, trying it out. (to make matters worse, this is an ancient box..) |
| 04:00.33 | mtnman | rjames: when you install ssh, it asks you if you want to run sshd or not. |
| 04:00.37 | LoRez | rjames: makes a lot of sense. they're distributed by two different entities and not everybody that wants telnet installed wants telnetd installed. typically if you want ssh, you also want sshd |
| 04:01.11 | louiej | Hello all, I need some help installing debian with knoppix. I want to install a minimal system on my computer. http://www.inittab.de/manuals/debootstrap.html was areference I used but after I chroot I can't resolve any hosts. Anyone know how I can get by this? |
| 04:01.13 | dondelelcaro | yeah, you almost always want telnet, because it's usefull for testing other protocols, like http, dns, smtp, etc. |
| 04:01.21 | mith | rjames: you're not too bright |
| 04:01.30 | LoRez | mith: quit antagonizing him |
| 04:01.40 | dondelelcaro | louiej: your /etc/resolv.conf probably isn't set up right. |
| 04:01.45 | mtnman | mith: but he sure does know how to endear himself to the channel. |
| 04:01.54 | dondelelcaro | louiej: man resolv.conf; and modify it appropriately. |
| 04:02.16 | corr | debian has manpages for everything! |
| 04:02.28 | T_VoiD | except the "\" got mangled in dpkg factoid :/ |
| 04:02.28 | louiej | what needs to be in the file? |
| 04:02.30 | dondelelcaro | corr: it's mandated by policy. |
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| 04:02.45 | dondelelcaro | louiej: man resolv.conf... [you'll need a nameserver line, and probably want a search line] |
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| 04:03.04 | corr | dondelelcaro i know, i like it. on everything else i've been on i would try man X from time to time and there would be no manpage... i've not run into that on debian |
| 04:03.33 | mtnman | louisj: you are unlikely to find help with knoppix on this channel. try #knoppix |
| 04:03.35 | dondelelcaro | corr: yeah, there are a few things that are not documented, but there are bugs against those packages... you might also need to install the appropriate -doc package... |
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| 04:03.53 | louiej | I can resolve hosts when booting into knoppix and the resolve.conf files are identical for that and my hdd. sorry fo rsuch newbie questions |
| 04:04.09 | corr | ah |
| 04:04.18 | Dr_Willis | louiej, perhaps your default route is different. |
| 04:04.29 | dondelelcaro | louiej: can you ping your nameservers? |
| 04:04.31 | LoRez | corr: apt-get install funny-manpages ; man sex |
| 04:04.35 | Dr_Willis | or your gateway setting. or dns servers |
| 04:04.42 | corr | dondelelcaro i have an idea, about package management. sometimes when a new version of a package is released, it only has changes to some files. |
| 04:05.08 | louiej | what do I put in the nameserver? |
| 04:05.11 | takisd | can i resize an existing partition |
| 04:05.15 | FarrisG | I'm having issues with debian (on a gateway laptop) just powering off after sitting idle for a few minutes. Is this some ACPI function I'm not aware of that I need to configure? |
| 04:05.21 | corr | dondelelcaro: i have an idea for a update mechanism where packages could be "patched" ie. only the changed files are in these special update packages, and so less bandwidth will be used |
| 04:05.30 | dondelelcaro | corr: you mean diffs? yes, it's generally not worth the archive space... and when it is, the packages are typically split out into multiple packages.. |
| 04:05.48 | corr | not only diffs |
| 04:05.48 | dondelelcaro | corr: that's why we have -data, -common, and -doc packages... |
| 04:05.59 | Bazz | can I get some general kernel advice from someone? |
| 04:06.04 | Bazz | can anyone help me? |
| 04:06.07 | dondelelcaro | Bazz: just ask your question. |
| 04:06.18 | mtnman | dpkg tell bazz about ask |
| 04:06.18 | corr | dondelelcaro hmm ok |
| 04:06.36 | dan2 | what do I do with doxygen xml output? |
| 04:06.46 | corr | eat it |
| 04:06.50 | corr | mmm |
| 04:06.55 | corr | :) |
| 04:07.00 | dondelelcaro | corr: now, there is something along those lines that'll probably be necessary for packages and sources files... because those you have to download every single time something small changes... |
| 04:07.05 | Bazz | dondelelcaro: I just (re)installed debian and have the 2.6.5-k7 kernel |
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| 04:07.27 | Bazz | dondelelcaro: the standard one that comes packaged from debian |
| 04:07.55 | Bazz | dondelelcaro: during the boot process it hangs for a while it trys to detect devices that I don't have |
| 04:07.58 | corr | dondelelcaro yeah... i was just thinking, because like, what if in a package update 75% of files remain the same, and only 25% change... thats a lot of downloading of the same data :) |
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| 04:08.06 | dondelelcaro | Bazz: that's probably discover doing that. |
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| 04:08.23 | dondelelcaro | Bazz: if you've setup your modules.conf correctly, you can probably safely remove discover. |
| 04:08.24 | Fnyar | Can someone help me out? I'm trying to be able to boot with my new 2.4.26 kernel. But, whenI do I get a message that 'modprobe: Can't locate module ip_tables' |
| 04:08.24 | Bazz | al la:"hdi: no response (status = 0xfe) |
| 04:08.37 | Bazz | oh cool |
| 04:08.38 | LoRez | corr: create a working implementation and someone might consider it |
| 04:08.54 | Bazz | dondelelcaro: how do I remove discover? |
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| 04:09.07 | dondelelcaro | Bazz: uh... the hdi thing isn't discover though... |
| 04:09.33 | dondelelcaro | Bazz: that's almost like there's some drive which 2.6.5 is seeing which isn't really there... |
| 04:09.33 | Bazz | dondelelcaro: |
| 04:09.49 | dondelelcaro | Bazz: this hanging is before or after init starts? |
| 04:09.59 | corr | lorez, i have actually been considering it... the only thing i can think of it, is it might be a meta thing. ie. you download a script/deb that actually creates a debian package identical to the update-package currently in use. this would be able to show that the idea works, while maintaining compatibility with the system now |
| 04:10.06 | Bazz | dondelelcaro: I believe before |
| 04:10.19 | Bazz | dondelelcaro: can I check for that in dmesg? |
| 04:10.23 | dondelelcaro | Bazz: hrm... probably something in that kernel that isn't interacting well with your hardware... |
| 04:10.41 | dondelelcaro | Bazz: yeah, once it boots, look through dmesg, and indicate where it's hanging, and paste the section into #flood |
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| 04:11.35 | Bazz | dondelelcaro: the computer I'm having trouble with is actually in the middle of installing the base system |
| 04:11.43 | spowers | anyone in here attempted an install on alpha with d-i beta 4? |
| 04:11.53 | corr | but this would need an automated/efficient way to determine if a file changed between package versions |
| 04:11.56 | corr | hmm |
| 04:11.59 | Bazz | dondelelcaro: will you be on a bit later so I can cut adn paste once I get the system up fully |
| 04:12.17 | dondelelcaro | Bazz: I should be... (or someone else will be...) |
| 04:12.39 | Bazz | dondelelcaro: ok well thanks for you help for now |
| 04:12.51 | dondelelcaro | Bazz: np |
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| 04:13.04 | Fnyar | anyone have any ideas on my modprobe problem above? |
| 04:13.35 | FarrisG | Does anyone have any experience running debian on a laptop? |
| 04:13.38 | dondelelcaro | Fnyar: that'd probably be because you didn't build ip_tables. |
| 04:14.03 | corr | FarrisG: i am running it on a laptop right now :) |
| 04:14.23 | Fnyar | dondelelcaro: I used menuconfig, I didn't see an option explicitly for ip_tables |
| 04:14.25 | T_VoiD | corr: /lib/dpkg/info/<package>.md5sums compared to the new package metadata with the same info? |
| 04:14.36 | FarrisG | Heh, well I know even less about power management on macs than I do on this crappy gateway |
| 04:14.36 | Fnyar | dondelelcaro: I did see netfilter stuff, which I enabled ofcourse |
| 04:14.52 | T_VoiD | corr: now, this would have to be available as a flat file on server, else it's moot |
| 04:15.07 | corr | T_VoiD ohhh, i did not notice that. |
| 04:15.44 | corr | i am just thinking, maybe this is all in my head |
| 04:15.53 | corr | and most of the new packages are mostly changed files |
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| 04:15.54 | FarrisG | Just trying to figure out what's causing it to power off when there's no input for only a few minutes.It does it quickly, without logging any messages |
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| 04:15.58 | T_VoiD | corr: btw that was /var/lib ... (i made a typo) |
| 04:16.06 | Fnyar | IRC is all in your head? |
| 04:16.08 | dondelelcaro | Fnyar: probably because the module is not called ip_tables then... you're most likely looking for ipt_yada yada... |
| 04:16.08 | corr | which would make what i am thinking of useless |
| 04:16.16 | corr | lol no |
| 04:16.22 | corr | T_VoiD yeah :) |
| 04:16.38 | dondelelcaro | corr: well, you could probably do it using some sort of rsync with ar and tar... it'll just kill the mirrors though... |
| 04:16.41 | FarrisG | And I'm fairly certain it's something delibeate, because it ONLY occurs when nothing is input for a few minutes, though I don't know precisely how long as I haven't tried to time it yet |
| 04:16.59 | corr | true |
| 04:17.03 | FarrisG | dilberate even |
| 04:17.04 | corr | hmm |
| 04:17.13 | FarrisG | geez |
| 04:17.13 | T_VoiD | corr: but if you can't get the same info on the packages server, you won't be more advanced |
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| 04:17.32 | corr | yeah |
| 04:17.39 | corr | well, what i am thinking |
| 04:17.49 | corr | is this would run into problems because there wont be only 1 possible package you are upgrading |
| 04:17.57 | corr | there will be several |
| 04:18.18 | corr | there would have to be a way for the client to upload the md5sum data to the server |
| 04:18.18 | T_VoiD | corr: so you'd ask the packages server to build a delta file on the fly? mhhh interesting load, freely hosting mirrors admins would love that |
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| 04:18.26 | corr | supposing that there is a server |
| 04:18.35 | corr | true |
| 04:18.38 | corr | well, suppose this |
| 04:18.46 | corr | push the md5sum load onto the client |
| 04:18.58 | corr | send the client an md5sum meta file for the package they are requesting |
| 04:19.18 | corr | oh crap |
| 04:19.18 | corr | you're right |
| 04:19.22 | corr | damn |
| 04:19.38 | corr | because if i did it that way it would have to build the PACKAGE on the fly |
| 04:19.38 | corr | hmm |
| 04:19.38 | T_VoiD | corr: yea but you have to uncompress the full package and recompress a part on it. this can only be done on server |
| 04:19.56 | corr | there would have the be different package-update files for each potential package to upgrade |
| 04:20.02 | corr | because on older packages, more files will be different |
| 04:20.05 | T_VoiD | corr: haha i was waiting it |
| 04:20.17 | T_VoiD | corr: so if you skip one step of upgrade you're screwed :p |
| 04:20.21 | corr | hmm. |
| 04:20.24 | Fnyar | dondelelcaro: I think/hope I found the right option in menuconfig. I'm recompiling now :) |
| 04:20.25 | corr | yeah |
| 04:20.37 | corr | which defeats the entire purpose. |
| 04:20.41 | corr | oh well :) |
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| 04:21.02 | FarrisG | I'm thinking of just removing SUSPEND from the kernel altogether, because I never use it, and I think that's what it's tryign to do, only failing miserably |
| 04:21.30 | corr | my stupid laptop hangs if i leave it alone for too long, i think it is trying to standby or suspend or somethi ng |
| 04:21.37 | corr | so i have to babysit it |
| 04:21.52 | FarrisG | Right, but mine doesn't hang |
| 04:22.03 | FarrisG | It's as if I held the power button for 4 secs |
| 04:22.06 | T_VoiD | Orlino: this has to be called from inetd, that means you have to know how to add the right entry there (maybe i'll add that later in the factoid haha) |
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| 04:22.36 | corr | FarrisG i'd remove suspend |
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| 04:23.48 | FarrisG | Yeah, was doing so, and compiling the kernel to add/remove some other things I needed. But I went to take a crap and came back and it was shut off... heh. So I'm gonna have to just open another console and play tetris or something while it's compiling so it doesn't shut off |
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| 04:24.19 | corr | farris, console? hmm. try doing setterm -blank and leaving it be |
| 04:24.24 | simonrvn | tmi tmi |
| 04:24.57 | mtnman | setterm -blank=0, iirc |
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| 04:25.03 | bolete | What file contains $PATH? |
| 04:25.15 | FarrisG | what exactly does that do? |
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| 04:25.20 | mtnman | bolete: it is usually set in .bash_profile or .bashrc |
| 04:25.25 | corr | mtnman it is my understand that 0 is the default |
| 04:25.34 | kill-9 | i got a question if i installed debian u think debian will read my modem? is a us robotics, |
| 04:25.36 | kill-9 | anyone? |
| 04:25.37 | mtnman | corr: that could very well be. |
| 04:25.39 | corr | FarrisG disables blanking the term, which will use apm if available iirc |
| 04:25.40 | bolete | mtnman: Thanks |
| 04:25.51 | dondelelcaro | kill-9: if it's a real modem, yes. if it's a win modem, good luck. |
| 04:25.56 | corr | kill-9 is it an internal modem? |
| 04:25.59 | FarrisG | ah, that makes sense |
| 04:26.03 | kill-9 | is a PCI |
| 04:26.06 | mtnman | bolete: welcome. you can also look at the system default of /etc/profile |
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| 04:26.16 | corr | MOST winmodems work on linux: http://www.linmodems.org/ |
| 04:26.40 | mith | they're still abominations |
| 04:26.50 | corr | yes they are |
| 04:27.00 | corr | mine keeps oopsing my kernel because the driver sux |
| 04:27.07 | kill-9 | so they installation on debian it will not reconsied the modem? |
| 04:27.13 | kill-9 | *the |
| 04:27.37 | T_VoiD | kill-9: i think a few usb pci modems are real modems; lspci gives some model number? |
| 04:27.51 | T_VoiD | kill-9: doh i meant usr pci |
| 04:28.07 | kill-9 | it says 56k PCI FAXMODEM V.92 |
| 04:28.20 | T_VoiD | kill-9: nothing else? |
| 04:28.39 | kill-9 | model 5660a |
| 04:28.39 | T_VoiD | kill-9: there's no model written, just a description with that |
| 04:28.42 | T_VoiD | ok |
| 04:29.38 | T_VoiD | kill-9: well i googled and seems it's not a real modem |
| 04:29.58 | kill-9 | so debian on the installation will not reconosized the modem? |
| 04:30.01 | ElNooboStupido | dondelelcaro, what was the package I shoudl install to autodetect network cards on boot again? |
| 04:30.10 | corr | kill-9 nope |
| 04:30.11 | Guerin | I'm trying to get procmail to pass mail back to sendmail for standard delivery, but I get warnings in my mail logs, saying that postfix's sendmail binary must not be run suid root or called by a suid root proces. The content_filter line in master.cf specifies user = filter, so it shouldn't necessarily be called as root, but the procmail binary is -rwsr-sr-x 1 root mail - should I change 's' to 'x'? |
| 04:30.13 | ElNooboStupido | you told me earlier and I didnt write it down |
| 04:30.15 | T_VoiD | kill-9: try this link http://www.linuxant.com/pipermail/hsflinux/2004q1/001393.html (or linmodems.org or something) |
| 04:30.21 | Guerin | Sorry for the ooj text block :( |
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| 04:30.33 | dondelelcaro | ElNooboStupido: discover |
| 04:30.39 | ElNooboStupido | thanks |
| 04:30.42 | corr | guerin yes |
| 04:30.57 | Guerin | corr: will it break other procmail capabilities? |
| 04:31.00 | corr | Guerin it is suid root |
| 04:31.05 | dondelelcaro | ElNooboStupido: the d-i installer has a few things on it... you might also consider looking at how knoppix does things.. |
| 04:31.10 | corr | no idea |
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| 04:31.24 | corr | but as it stands, its being started as root, and its complaining about it |
| 04:31.34 | Guerin | corr: ok, I'll change it |
| 04:31.51 | corr | so i'd shut it up and chmod 755 it |
| 04:32.04 | duncf | Guerin: I'm not quite sure, but i think that's not the best solition |
| 04:32.22 | duncf | i think you can use DROPPRIVS=yes or something like that before calling sendmail |
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| 04:32.36 | Guerin | duncf: ok, I'll try that first |
| 04:32.44 | kill-9 | why the externals modems are so expensived? |
| 04:32.48 | ElNooboStupido | dondelelcaro, seriously all im trying to do is set up a minimal install with network card discovery and cinelerra renderfarm client on it |
| 04:32.52 | duncf | check the manpage im not sure of the syntax |
| 04:32.59 | corr | kill-9 hardware costs moneys ;) |
| 04:33.16 | dondelelcaro | ElNooboStupido: ah, install on a hard drive? d-i should be able to do that for you... |
| 04:33.34 | kill-9 | oh |
| 04:33.39 | ElNooboStupido | dondelelcaro, im gonna install to a hard drive, then burn to a cdrom with bootcd |
| 04:33.40 | kill-9 | corr send me an external modem |
| 04:33.40 | kill-9 | lol |
| 04:33.45 | corr | when you refer to d-i do you mean the new one? |
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| 04:34.04 | corr | kill-9 naw, i just mess with my internal one in my laptop :) |
| 04:34.04 | ElNooboStupido | thanks that worked by the way |
| 04:34.18 | corr | i had a lucent pci modem in my desktop, used the ltmodem driver and it worked fine for me |
| 04:34.22 | dondelelcaro | corr: yes. d-i is new. bf is old. |
| 04:34.30 | corr | ah ok |
| 04:34.32 | macmouse | How do I get esound to run at startup automatically? |
| 04:34.38 | corr | d-i will be in the next stable? |
| 04:34.50 | macmouse | instead of having to do "esd -d /dev/dsp" each time..? |
| 04:34.52 | dondelelcaro | corr: yes. |
| 04:34.54 | T_VoiD | Guerin: maybe setting the DROPPRIVS variable in the rc would help? (no real idea) |
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| 04:35.04 | dondelelcaro | corr: it's the installer for sarge. |
| 04:35.17 | sqlite | hi there guys! |
| 04:35.22 | corr | dondelelcaro cool. how far long is the next stable? |
| 04:35.41 | corr | dondelelcaro sarge is testing right |
| 04:35.42 | dondelelcaro | corr: pretty far... main things holding it back are d-i and the RC bug count |
| 04:35.46 | dondelelcaro | corr: yes. |
| 04:35.49 | kill-9 | so corr laptops bring internal modems? |
| 04:35.57 | corr | RC? |
| 04:36.00 | corr | kill-9 yes |
| 04:36.02 | sqlite | I installed debian sarge from Installer beta 4 w/ kernel 2.6 but I can get my sound work...can anyome help me plz? |
| 04:36.04 | dondelelcaro | corr: release critical |
| 04:36.06 | duncf | dondelelcaro: and the social contract ;-) |
| 04:36.13 | corr | oic |
| 04:36.15 | kill-9 | and linux reconised the modems right away? |
| 04:36.21 | dondelelcaro | duncf: nah, that's not holding anythign up. That's just a big red herring. |
| 04:36.22 | sqlite | I CANT |
| 04:36.36 | sqlite | I installed debian sarge from Installer beta 4 w/ kernel 2.6 but I cant get my sound work...can anyome help me plz? |
| 04:36.42 | corr | dondelelcaro i know this is probably a very stupid question, but is there a place i can look at all the bugs for sarge? i am dist-upgrading to it and would like to know :) |
| 04:36.45 | duncf | it certainly has the potential to... |
| 04:36.52 | dondelelcaro | corr: bugs.debian.org |
| 04:37.03 | corr | kill-9 no. i had to install a driver. |
| 04:37.08 | corr | dondelelcaro thanks! :) |
| 04:37.13 | duncf | hoever, the resulting flamewars definitely have an impact on developers ability to reduce the rc bug count ;-) |
| 04:37.14 | dondelelcaro | duncf: well, it'll be dealt with way before sarge will be ready, so it's not that big of a deal. |
| 04:37.42 | dondelelcaro | duncf: and the flamewars are nothing new... it's a rare month that doesn't have at least 3 to 4 flamewars... |
| 04:37.46 | ElNooboStupido | 2.6 uses alsa!!!! |
| 04:37.49 | corr | i heard that the social contract changed on slashdot |
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| 04:38.07 | duncf | this one has had probably 3 or 4 already, and were a week in |
| 04:38.12 | corr | and i heard a lotta people dont like it |
| 04:38.16 | sqlite | PLZ help me....I tried to do exactly the same I did w/ kernel 2.4 (when the sound used to work) but got no success |
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| 04:38.40 | ElNooboStupido | sqlite, THE 2.6 kernel uses ALSA for sound |
| 04:38.41 | GAP | Whats a good way to search for a file on the internet (I am looking for an Ultima Online installation wihtout having to buy a cd) |
| 04:38.42 | duncf | (more if you're on -private...) |
| 04:38.45 | dondelelcaro | corr: a few, but most of them are the people who voted against it, or didn't vote... |
| 04:38.59 | sqlite | ElNooboStupido: But alsa did not list my video card |
| 04:39.01 | dondelelcaro | duncf: well, private always has its interesting set of flamewars... or so I've heard... |
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| 04:39.15 | ElNooboStupido | sqlite, thats because alsa is for sound, not video |
| 04:39.31 | sqlite | ElNooboStupido: But alsa did not list my SOUND card...sorry |
| 04:39.31 | duncf | corr: some were unaware of the effect the vote would have on the release, others claim it was misleading "editorial changes" etc |
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| 04:39.39 | corr | dondelelcaro who gets to vote? everyone? |
| 04:39.40 | sqlite | Wrote wrong |
| 04:39.48 | ElNooboStupido | sqlite, maybe you have to go back to 2.4 then. |
| 04:39.54 | dondelelcaro | corr: anyone who has their key in the debian keyring... (aka: Debian developers) |
| 04:40.00 | sqlite | E1: really?? |
| 04:40.03 | duncf | corr: debian developers - i voted for it, thinking it was just editorial |
| 04:40.07 | corr | i wanna be a debian developer as soon as i know enough |
| 04:40.28 | sqlite | E1No: My video card is cmi8330 ...Not supported yet? |
| 04:40.37 | corr | duncf what part of the contract is so controversial? |
| 04:40.40 | sqlite | ElNooboStupido: My video card is cmi8330 ...Not supported yet? |
| 04:40.45 | kill-9 | corr my brother he is one, |
| 04:40.50 | kill-9 | he's email is gaston@debian.org |
| 04:40.52 | dondelelcaro | duncf: well, it was just editorial... assuming you're not in the document!=software crowd... |
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| 04:41.09 | g4lt | corr I'd advise against getting your hopes up. they closed off NM twice before |
| 04:41.15 | duncf | well i think its pretty evident from the aftermath that documents != software |
| 04:41.23 | ElNooboStupido | sqlite, you gotta check out alsa for yourself and see if it is supported or not. If not , then you need to go back to 2.4 for sound |
| 04:41.32 | duncf | corr: nm.debian.org |
| 04:41.42 | sqlite | ElectricElf: I used SB to get sound working on 2.4....no way to do it w/ 2.6?? |
| 04:41.45 | dondelelcaro | duncf: nah, nothing new has been brought up in those things... the same people who have thought that way has always thought that way... |
| 04:41.52 | sqlite | ElNectricElf: I used SB to get sound working on 2.4....no way to do it w/ 2.6?? |
| 04:42.03 | corr | nm.. ok clicking |
| 04:42.12 | sqlite | ElNooboStupido: I used SB to get sound working on 2.4....no way to do it w/ 2.6?? |
| 04:42.12 | dondelelcaro | duncf: read the -vote archives [the exchange between myself and AJ, FE.] |
| 04:42.14 | ElNooboStupido | sqlite, I dont mean to bust your chops, but ive told you three times already. |
| 04:42.28 | corr | ah |
| 04:42.35 | corr | why did they close it before |
| 04:42.40 | sqlite | ElNooboStupido: ok...sorry....so 2.6 works only w/ alsa? |
| 04:42.47 | ElNooboStupido | yes. |
| 04:42.47 | g4lt | corr politics, mostly |
| 04:43.00 | duncf | corr: the contreversial bit is that under the guise of "editorial" changes, the social contract now requires documentation, etc to be free as well as software (although many imply this was the case before, its now explicit) |
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| 04:43.15 | sqlite | E1Noo: Ok...And it might be possible that my card is not supported yet? |
| 04:43.42 | corr | i see |
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| 04:44.10 | dondelelcaro | duncf: *shrug* most people who claim that it was misleading didn't bother to read the changes (or vote) themselves... kind of hard to argue that it was misleading when you don't exercise your franchise appropriately... |
| 04:44.13 | corr | well, i'm personally couldnt care less about the software licenses as long as the system works |
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| 04:44.26 | dondelelcaro | duncf: not to mention that no one objected to the titling before the results were tallied... |
| 04:44.39 | duncf | dondelelcaro: i personally did vote and i did read the changes, but didnt realise the effect |
| 04:44.47 | sqlite | ElNooboStupido: Well...thanks then man...But I don need sound anyway....I can go w2k to get sound...I will keep 2.6 ;) |
| 04:45.06 | duncf | but theres no sense complaining about it now, it'll be cleared up soon enough... |
| 04:45.18 | dondelelcaro | duncf: don't know what to say then... it was explicitely discussed in the discussion period. |
| 04:45.18 | g4lt | corr then you probably won't be a Debian Developer, because one of te qualifications is to read and understand the DFSG |
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| 04:45.43 | duncf | dondelelcaro: i'd say most developers don't read -vote before voting |
| 04:46.01 | g4lt | duncf it's not as if the documentation issue is new or anything |
| 04:46.18 | corr | g4lt, oh i will. and i'll master it. i just won't like it :) |
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| 04:46.39 | corr | i see in the list of rc bugs, one of them says that gcc has non-free manpages |
| 04:46.44 | sqlite | ElNooboStupido: The alsa I got last time was apt-get install alsa ... Is that the right one or is there any newer version or something? |
| 04:46.47 | Bazz | I just freshly installed debian... does anyone know why my apt-cache isn't seeing lots of packages taht I *KNOW* exist |
| 04:47.01 | Bazz | I have already ran apt-get update |
| 04:47.15 | dondelelcaro | duncf: http://people.debian.org/~terpstra/message/20040129.052350.5b5e7192.html |
| 04:47.19 | g4lt | corr right, all new GNU documentation is under the GFDL-with-options, which is patently DFSG-nonfree |
| 04:47.36 | dondelelcaro | g4lt: the GFDL even without invariant sections is non-free. |
| 04:47.36 | Guerin | duncf: there doesn't seem to be a DROPPRIVS option in procmail - and nothing suggest how you'd drop privileges in the man page, except by using the ~/.procmailrc file or a nonprivileged user |
| 04:47.36 | somiaj | Bazz: sounds like your sources.list aren't complete |
| 04:47.59 | corr | g4lt, i see. so effectively, unless gcc changes the documentation licnese, gcc-doc would be put into non-free? |
| 04:48.03 | Bazz | somiaj: right so how do I make sure they are complete |
| 04:48.10 | g4lt | dondelelcaro that's arguable, and has been argued ;) |
| 04:48.11 | dondelelcaro | duncf: probably true... but then I still don't understand why those who did and objected didn't object to the titling. *shrug* |
| 04:48.13 | Guerin | corr: changing the procmail perms to 755 fixed the errors, but still no messages getting delivered ... |
| 04:48.23 | g4lt | corr right |
| 04:48.24 | somiaj | Bazz: you could run apt-setup |
| 04:48.27 | dondelelcaro | g4lt: no one has done it convincingly... |
| 04:48.28 | duncf | dondelelcaro: beats me |
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| 04:48.29 | sqlite | Does anyone know why MPLAYER package isnt related on debian's site? |
| 04:48.31 | corr | Guerin im sorry about that sir |
| 04:48.40 | LoRez | !mplayer |
| 04:48.41 | dpkg | somebody said mplayer was at http://www.mplayerhq.hu/ , or for debian packages, see http://hpisi.nerim.net/, or the url for debian packages moved to ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ |
| 04:48.51 | corr | g4lt, and non-free isnt available for a fresh installation? (or am i way wrong there?) |
| 04:48.52 | g4lt | dondelelcaro not even my friend? ;P |
| 04:49.00 | T_VoiD | Guerin: man procmailrc, it's written there |
| 04:49.11 | dondelelcaro | g4lt: there have been a few people talking about it... but they haven't read through the position statement very carefully and dealt with the arguments there... |
| 04:49.18 | g4lt | corr no, you can explicitly allow non-free in a fresh installation |
| 04:49.22 | sqlite | I got mplayer from http://marillat.free.fr |
| 04:49.27 | corr | dondelelcaro so what is free? |
| 04:49.28 | duncf | sqlite: license and patent issues |
| 04:49.32 | corr | g4lt, i see |
| 04:49.42 | dondelelcaro | corr: read the DFSG to find out what we mean by Free Software. |
| 04:49.43 | sqlite | duncf: mmm I c |
| 04:49.45 | Guerin | T_VoiD: gah, I was in man procmail |
| 04:49.51 | corr | dondelelcaro i mean documentation wise... i thought debian based its definition of freeness on what gnu said was free |
| 04:50.04 | T_VoiD | Guerin: i know. the interesting part of the doc is in procmailrc hehe |
| 04:50.04 | corr | dondelelcaro yes sir :) |
| 04:50.07 | g4lt | duncf didn't amennucc1 upload mplayer into main? |
| 04:50.07 | dondelelcaro | corr: we base it on the DFSG, which itself is based on the four freedoms... |
| 04:50.25 | sqlite | Sorry asking this again but the only way getting sound on kernel 2.6 is w/ alsa??? |
| 04:50.30 | g4lt | !info mplayer |
| 04:50.35 | dondelelcaro | !gfdl |
| 04:50.36 | dpkg | well, gfdl is the GNU "free"documentation license, see discussion at http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2003/debian-legal-200309/msg00169.html and http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2003/debian-legal-200304/msg00246.html. See the position statement at http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/Position_Statement.html |
| 04:50.39 | corr | freedom of beer, freedom of speech, freedom of press, and freedom of soda pop |
| 04:50.42 | T_VoiD | Guerin: use LOGFILE= as well if you didn't, very handy |
| 04:50.47 | corr | for those who dont drink of course :) |
| 04:50.51 | Bazz | somiaj: still not quite right |
| 04:51.04 | duncf | g4lt: I don't know... it's not in the archive -- it could be in NEW or rejected |
| 04:51.06 | Bazz | somiaj: I know nvidia-kernel-source exists |
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| 04:51.17 | Bazz | somiaj: for example but its not showing up |
| 04:51.20 | Guerin | T_VoiD: I've set it, but it's not logging anything there - but I have a few other configs to set before I sort that out |
| 04:51.29 | Bazz | somiaj: i reran apt setup |
| 04:51.30 | somiaj | Bazz: do you have non-free soruces added |
| 04:51.45 | Bazz | somiaj: right! |
| 04:51.46 | g4lt | duncf I'll admit I'm a bit behind in d-l, but I swear amennucc1 posted he was uploading to main in March |
| 04:51.55 | Bazz | somiaj: where is the config file? |
| 04:52.31 | somiaj | Bazz: apt-setup should ask you if you want non-free sources or not, or just modify /etc/apt/sources.list by hand |
| 04:52.48 | Bazz | somiaj: yeah it didn |
| 04:52.48 | Bazz | t |
| 04:52.57 | dondelelcaro | !four freedoms is <reply> Free Software is based opon Four Freedoms. 0) The freedom to run the program, for any purpose 1) The freedom to study how the program works, and adapt it to your needs. Access to the source code is a precondition for this. 2) The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help your neighbor 3) The freedom to improve the program, and release your improvements to the public, so that the whole community benefits. See http://www.g |
| 04:52.58 | dpkg | dondelelcaro: okay |
| 04:52.59 | Bazz | somiaj: why wouldn't it ask me this question |
| 04:53.10 | Bazz | somiaj: it seems it did in the past |
| 04:53.39 | g4lt | !topicsmite sqlite |
| 04:53.40 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon sqlite. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 04:54.29 | Bazz | somiaj: anyway where do I find a list of the non free sources |
| 04:54.31 | g4lt | dondelelcaro better to call it "GNU four freedoms"... |
| 04:54.43 | corr | dondelelcaro: what if running your program creates an AI bent on preventing free software, by deleting, infecting, and killing all free software developers |
| 04:54.43 | Bazz | somiaj: and what source lists do I need other than that and main |
| 04:54.48 | corr | would this violate 1? |
| 04:54.50 | somiaj | Bazz: just add non-free to the end of your main mirror in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 04:54.56 | sqlite | ALSA is the only way to get sound out of kernel 2.6? |
| 04:54.56 | dondelelcaro | g4lt: well, those are kind of the foundation for the DFSG... |
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| 04:55.05 | dondelelcaro | g4lt: although, they're not explicitely listed... |
| 04:55.06 | sqlite | Sorry but I cant beleive that |
| 04:55.24 | dondelelcaro | sqlite: alsa has OSS bindings... so there's no reason not to use alsa. |
| 04:55.51 | sqlite | dondelelcaro: it did not list my sound card |
| 04:56.03 | dondelelcaro | sqlite: which sound card is this? |
| 04:56.15 | sqlite | cmi8330 |
| 04:56.15 | g4lt | dondelelcaro not really, IIRC, the four freedoms were mentioned in the DFSG flamewar, but mostly rejected |
| 04:56.42 | dondelelcaro | g4lt: lemme dig up the most recent post where we discussed this... |
| 04:57.12 | g4lt | dondelelcaro never mind, I'm catching up on d-l ATM, u[ to april ;) |
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| 04:58.44 | corr | it seems to me debian's ideologies both hold it back, and push it forward |
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| 04:58.53 | duncf | g4lt: I'd check on mplayer but both merkel and newraff are restricted |
| 04:59.18 | piranha | _id: In response to your question a long time ago, yes. |
| 04:59.32 | g4lt | duncf amennucc1's solution was to cut them out, IIUC ;) |
| 04:59.45 | corr | what is this progeny |
| 04:59.57 | dondelelcaro | g4lt: yeah, I don't mean to say that it's dependent on the four freedoms in any official sense, it's just usefull to use as a framework for the DFSG... |
| 04:59.57 | duncf | g4lt: d-l? -laptop? |
| 05:00.03 | sqlite | dondelelcaro: any idea? |
| 05:00.11 | g4lt | duncf legal |
| 05:00.17 | corr | list? |
| 05:00.27 | duncf | ah... it's late ;-) |
| 05:00.43 | FarrisG | ok, so it wasn't screen blanking causing it |
| 05:00.49 | FarrisG | I don't think |
| 05:01.15 | g4lt | dondelelcaro but assuming that DFSG == four freedoms is what started the antipathy between me and thomas bushnell... |
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| 05:01.42 | corr | antipathy, consulting dictionary |
| 05:02.22 | dondelelcaro | g4lt: yeah, there's a message sometime in the GFDL or OSD=DFSG convergence by branden that puts forth what I'm talking about... |
| 05:02.36 | dondelelcaro | g4lt: *shrug* at least you didn't compare the bible to a program for religion... ;-) |
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| 05:03.17 | thu | hey |
| 05:03.29 | g4lt | dondelelcaro BTW, for the record, TB was on the side of assuming they were equivalent... |
| 05:03.49 | thu | I'm trying to copy a big dir from one machine to another and mc gives me errors for the index files downloaded with wget |
| 05:04.04 | thu | is there any easy way to copy a dir to another machine without worrying about weird stuff in the file names? |
| 05:05.42 | corr | hmm |
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| 05:05.57 | T_VoiD | doh |
| 05:05.58 | corr | ive noticed some of the biggest packages are the doc pkgs |
| 05:06.03 | Justin | thu: rsync |
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| 05:07.49 | thu | Justin: got a set of flags? last time I tried something fancy with rsync I got lost in the options |
| 05:07.55 | sqlite | It seems that cmi8330 driver is broken on ALSA |
| 05:08.18 | thu | Justin: I'm trying to copy all files and skip the ones already |
| 05:08.23 | thu | Justin: ..there |
| 05:08.55 | Justin | man rsync has a nice list of the flags... |
| 05:10.51 | sqlite | thx guys |
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| 05:22.18 | Bazz | built nvidia-kernel-source |
| 05:22.28 | Bazz | hi I just built nvidia-kernel-source |
| 05:22.36 | Bazz | the module seems to be loading just fine |
| 05:23.04 | Bazz | but dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 doesn't seem to see the modules exists |
| 05:24.08 | Bazz | can anyone help me? |
| 05:24.44 | jmob | Bazz: just change the Driver line of your XF86Config-4 file to nvidia |
| 05:25.45 | jmob | Bazz: in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 there should be a Driver line the "Device" section, |
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| 05:26.04 | Bazz | thank jmob |
| 05:26.08 | Bazz | I think I found it |
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| 05:34.02 | Nazxul | Hey |
| 05:34.06 | Nazxul | I have a problem... |
| 05:34.36 | xsdg | Nazxul: ya don't say |
| 05:34.45 | Nazxul | I do say, actually. |
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| 05:35.39 | somiaj | !tell Nazxul about ask |
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| 05:37.09 | Googliano | I tried installing ldap-server with apt, it is trying to install xfreex6-common. I don't run x. Why would it want that file? |
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| 05:37.37 | Jamie_ | im trying to install mythtv and it says that it needs liblame0 and im not sure which package to isntall (packages.debian.org nor google is much help)(debian unstable/testing, kernel 2.6.3-i386) |
| 05:37.54 | Nazxul | I'm trying to install Debian using that debian installer, and it won't install dpkg correctly |
| 05:38.00 | SteX | is there no startupscripts in debian, I need to run a few stunnel and ifconfig on reboot |
| 05:38.06 | somiaj | Googliano: because it depends on some X stuff, it might have X options compiled in so it grabs just the common stuff so it can use it. |
| 05:38.06 | Nazxul | I've tried two times, both failed |
| 05:38.37 | Googliano | somia. Ok, thanks. I will let it install it then. |
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| 05:39.06 | K-Rich | ugh |
| 05:39.09 | K-Rich | i think i removed the files in /var/cache/apt/archive and now can't `apt-get update |
| 05:39.13 | K-Rich | any suggestions? |
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| 05:41.10 | Nazxul | Anybody have any ideas...? |
| 05:41.40 | azreal | im trying to build a module which wants to have a /usr/src/linux/Rules.make, where does that file come from? |
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| 05:41.58 | Supaplex | K-Rich google for "debian reference", that topic is discussed there |
| 05:42.56 | tpope | Jamie_: ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ |
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| 05:43.33 | Jamie_ | tpope: whats this? |
| 05:43.44 | Silentgiant | hello all |
| 05:43.47 | tpope | Jamie_: you want liblame0? |
| 05:43.48 | somiaj | Nazxul: try #debian-boot or #debian-installer |
| 05:43.53 | Jamie_ | tpope: aye... |
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| 05:44.02 | tpope | deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main |
| 05:44.03 | azreal | actually its lirc-modules-source im trying to compile with make-kpkg, how do i get a Rules.make anyways, where does it come from? |
| 05:44.10 | tpope | add that to your sources.list |
| 05:44.15 | Jamie_ | thanks mate :) |
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| 05:46.45 | Nazxul | I don't think there are any living beings in #debian-boot |
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| 05:47.08 | Jamie_ | how would i tell if im using sarge or sid? |
| 05:47.33 | tpope | cat /etc/debian_version |
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| 05:48.03 | Jamie_ | it just says testing/unstable |
| 05:48.12 | somiaj | Jamie_: check your libc6 version, or your sources.list |
| 05:48.26 | hofthebasketmeal | dondelelearo: are you still around? |
| 05:48.58 | Jamie_ | sources.list doesnt give any specifics, and im not sure how to check the libc6 version |
| 05:49.14 | hofthebasketmeal | can anyone help me optimize my boot process |
| 05:49.20 | Nazxul | somiaj, there's nobody alive in #debian-boot, and nobody at all in #debian-installer |
| 05:49.25 | hofthebasketmeal | I just installed the 2.6.5-1-k7 debian kernel |
| 05:49.38 | tpope | Jamie_: look at the third field in the sources.list |
| 05:49.40 | hofthebasketmeal | and it hangs for a while looking for devices I do not have |
| 05:50.06 | somiaj | Jamie_: souces.list should say something like stable/woody, sarge/testing, or sid/unstable in the line somewhere telling you what sources your using. |
| 05:50.08 | Jamie_ | tpope: yea, it just says "testing/main" |
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| 05:50.18 | somiaj | tpope: that is testing=sarge |
| 05:50.38 | Jamie_ | testing = sarge, unstable = sid? |
| 05:50.42 | tpope | Jamie_: what somiaj said and accidently addressed to me |
| 05:50.48 | tpope | yes |
| 05:50.49 | somiaj | Jamie_: yup..(: |
| 05:50.51 | somiaj | tpope: sorry..(: |
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| 05:50.59 | Jamie_ | i see :) |
| 05:51.06 | tpope | sid=still in development |
| 05:51.20 | tpope | hence unstable |
| 05:51.27 | hofthebasketmeal | for example I get messages like hdi: no response |
| 05:51.36 | hofthebasketmeal | (status - 0xfe) |
| 05:51.38 | somiaj | sid is the child that breaks things! |
| 05:51.42 | hofthebasketmeal | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:52.39 | Nazxul | Where should I go to get help with this? |
| 05:53.01 | somiaj | Nazxul: maybe its #d-i don't know the room, or you could just grab a woody netinstall |
| 05:53.16 | somiaj | Nazxul: I know those work then upgrade to sid, the debian-installer is still in testing and I haven't tested it |
| 05:53.37 | Nazxul | I've talked to several people who said it worked fine |
| 05:54.02 | hofthebasketmeal | can anyone help me get my kernel from checking devices I don't have during start up? |
| 05:54.35 | tpope | hofthebasketmeal: what kind of devices |
| 05:54.40 | somiaj | Nazxul: worked fine is one thing, but its still in testing and things may not work out of the box, also have you checked your source, maybe you got a bad burn, bad image, bad download. |
| 05:54.40 | Jamie_ | hofthebasketmeal: depends if the checking is a module or built into the kernel, if its a module, read how to configure kernel modules, if its in the kernel, you need to recompile your kernel |
| 05:54.46 | T_VoiD | snif i'm moron 63 now :) |
| 05:54.57 | hofthebasketmeal | hdi |
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| 05:55.05 | hofthebasketmeal | tpope: hdi hdk |
| 05:55.17 | hofthebasketmeal | tpope: the messages I get are |
| 05:55.25 | Nazxul | It downloads the packages from the net, and I tried two different sources during the install |
| 05:55.27 | tpope | does your motherboard have sata by chance? |
| 05:55.37 | Googliano | anyone every heard of a utility called ar? What is it? |
| 05:56.01 | JimButton | Googliano: the man page will tell you |
| 05:56.03 | hofthebasketmeal | tpope: what's sata |
| 05:56.03 | somiaj | Nazxul: I have always preferd a 40meg base installer and then after the base install grab the packages from the net. |
| 05:56.07 | T_VoiD | hofthebasketmeal: yes install a kernel 2.4 it won't happen. compile a custom 2.6.5 kernel it won't happen ... :) |
| 05:56.08 | tpope | serial-ata |
| 05:56.11 | JimButton | Googliano: it is on every debian system |
| 05:56.16 | somiaj | Googliano: man ar |
| 05:56.17 | Caveman- | what are the votes for mail servers here ? I am tossing up between qmail or postfix. |
| 05:56.31 | JimButton | Caveman-: not qmail |
| 05:56.35 | Nazxul | I see. Where did you get that installer? |
| 05:56.36 | JimButton | Caveman-: postfix or exim |
| 05:56.46 | Caveman- | JimButton: whats up with Qmail ? |
| 05:56.47 | Googliano | Jimbutton: I tried to install berkeley db and it said that ar utility is missing |
| 05:56.49 | hofthebasketmeal | T_VoiD: so you're saying I'm going to need to compile my own kernel? |
| 05:56.55 | JimButton | Caveman-: the author is a jerk |
| 05:57.04 | JimButton | Caveman-: and it is not really free |
| 05:57.12 | hofthebasketmeal | tpope: I'm going to paste the error message into flood |
| 05:57.15 | T_VoiD | hofthebasketmeal: I always do that but i'm not a well a end user, i feel a power user :) |
| 05:57.22 | JimButton | Googliano: is that a debian system? |
| 05:57.23 | Caveman- | JimButton: OHHHHHHHH, I see. THanks for that.. |
| 05:57.28 | somiaj | Nazxul: one second, i'll dig up the link (you can also get it fome debian.org) |
| 05:57.32 | Googliano | Jim: yes |
| 05:57.35 | Caveman- | postfix it is |
| 05:57.52 | JimButton | Googliano: does "which ar" produce output? |
| 05:58.09 | Googliano | JimB: no output |
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| 05:58.17 | somiaj | Nazxul: http://people.debian.org/~dwhedon/boot-floppies/ I use the bf24 mini install iso, it will intall a base 'stable' system on your computer that you can then upgrade to sarge or sid if ya like or just start install woody packages. |
| 05:58.22 | tpope | hofthebasketmeal: yes, you have serial-ata |
| 05:58.23 | JimButton | Googliano: then something is really fucked on your system |
| 05:58.38 | Nazxul | Sounds good, I'll try it |
| 05:58.40 | T_VoiD | hofthebasketmeal: i'm just saying why take the trouble to install the very last kernel, when sometimes you don't even use its features. did you really have to install the 2.6.5 for a feature you had only on this one? |
| 05:58.43 | Googliano | JimB: can I not just install it? |
| 05:58.59 | hofthebasketmeal | tpope: so can I disable something so that it won't hang like this |
| 05:59.11 | JimButton | Googliano: oh, wait |
| 05:59.15 | tpope | hofthebasketmeal: T_VoiD thinks changing your kernel will help; I agree |
| 05:59.40 | hofthebasketmeal | T_VoiD: well it's a fairly new system and so when I install 2.6.5 my audigy sound card started working for example |
| 05:59.41 | T_VoiD | hofthebasketmeal: i'm sure there's some command lne to disable checks, but i won't get in the trouble of searching for that |
| 05:59.47 | tpope | hofthebasketmeal: I think a work around might be to pass hdi=none, etc to your kernel |
| 05:59.47 | JimButton | Googliano: install bintuils |
| 05:59.57 | JimButton | Googliano: or better, installl build-essential |
| 06:00.06 | tpope | set up your bootloader to do it |
| 06:00.07 | JimButton | Googliano: as it seems you want to build some stuff yourself |
| 06:00.08 | hofthebasketmeal | tpope: how do I pass a message to the kernel? |
| 06:00.15 | T_VoiD | hofthebasketmeal: maybe because alsa sound is included instead of having to be separately compiled? |
| 06:00.18 | tpope | /etc/lilo.conf |
| 06:00.19 | Orlino | T_VoiD: thanx man, it works |
| 06:00.29 | hofthebasketmeal | tpope: I'm running grub |
| 06:00.44 | tpope | I don't know grub... |
| 06:00.48 | Googliano | Jimb: I cant find bdb using apt so I thought I would just get the tar. Bad idea? |
| 06:00.48 | tpope | but you can test it |
| 06:01.04 | tpope | by typing kernelname hdi=none hdk=none |
| 06:01.12 | tpope | at the boot prompt |
| 06:01.21 | tpope | kernelname is of course the kernel image's name |
| 06:01.21 | JimButton | Googliano: berkeley db should be in debian, let me see |
| 06:01.26 | hofthebasketmeal | tpope: right I'll give that a go |
| 06:01.32 | Googliano | ok |
| 06:01.38 | hofthebasketmeal | tpope: but you think I should compile my own kernel? |
| 06:01.56 | tpope | hofthebasketmeal: if you can manage it |
| 06:02.07 | tpope | look into kernel-package |
| 06:02.16 | JimButton | Googliano: it is libdb3 and similar (on woody) |
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| 06:02.48 | Googliano | Jimb: Cool, I will try these suggestions. Thanks so much! |
| 06:02.57 | thu | will rsync delete my source files? |
| 06:02.59 | JimButton | Googliano: you can find it with "apt-cache search berkeley database" |
| 06:03.02 | T_VoiD | hofthebasketmeal: there's a config file somewhere in your /boot dir. use this file if you recompile (by naming it .config and typing make oldconfig). then start removing all options you know you don't need. don't start from scratch with options or you'll surely fail |
| 06:03.11 | Googliano | gotcha, thanks |
| 06:03.13 | JimButton | Googliano: np |
| 06:03.33 | hofthebasketmeal | T_VoiD: thank you for you help |
| 06:03.40 | T_VoiD | hofthebasketmeal: byt copying it as .config (don't ever remoev it where it is) |
| 06:04.08 | T_VoiD | hofthebasketmeal: also, have a rescue disk or something in case you screw (ok with grub you should be safe) |
| 06:04.09 | thu | I want to copy a dir to another drive without overwriting the files already there.. is rsync --recursive --update /src /dst a good idea? |
| 06:06.02 | T_VoiD | hofthebasketmeal: hum also you should learn how to pass parameters to the booting kernel |
| 06:06.25 | T_VoiD | hofthebasketmeal: i'm sure it's all in the howtos hehe |
| 06:06.54 | hofthebasketmeal | T_Void: I was just looking up how to pass parameters to grub |
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| 06:07.02 | hofthebasketmeal | T_Void: I'm new to grub |
| 06:07.04 | T_VoiD | kk |
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| 06:07.27 | T_VoiD | bah once you got grub you can throw lilo in the trash :) |
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| 06:09.19 | tpope | thu: that will over write files if the source ones are newer |
| 06:09.33 | thu | tpope: okay, I switched ot --ignore-existing |
| 06:09.34 | mipooh | i cannot use my usb-stick and my usb-card-reader as user, i have to mount both after fstab, otherwise they are umounted again. cannot chown later. any ideas? |
| 06:09.44 | thu | tpope: rsync won't delete files without me telling it to, will it? |
| 06:10.08 | tpope | thu: not with that option |
| 06:10.25 | thu | tpope: so rsync --recursive --ignore-existing /src /dst will just copy files and ignore the ones already there? |
| 06:10.33 | tpope | it should |
| 06:10.34 | thu | tpope: no deleting or other funny stuf |
| 06:10.36 | thu | mmkay |
| 06:10.45 | thu | here goes my raid |
| 06:11.04 | thu | dry-run looks good |
| 06:12.01 | tpope | mipooh: have you added the user option to fstab? |
| 06:12.33 | mipooh | i took it out from fstab as it was not mounted even not for root |
| 06:12.40 | somiaj | tpope: hehe, the debin wiki page has a nice quote, 'debian comes with a guarntee that if you break it you get to keep both peices' |
| 06:13.27 | thu | will rsync work faster on its own than rsync over smb? |
| 06:13.28 | tpope | mtab is for current mounts, fstab for potential ones |
| 06:13.35 | tpope | so put it back in |
| 06:13.42 | tpope | thu: almost certainly |
| 06:13.57 | thu | tpope: what do I need to do on the target machine to set up rsync? |
| 06:14.02 | tpope | if by on its on you mean tunneled over ssh |
| 06:14.12 | tpope | or using the rsync daemon |
| 06:14.13 | thu | nah, no encryption involved |
| 06:14.23 | thu | rsyncd I suppose |
| 06:14.35 | tpope | yeah, look at /etc/init.d/rsync |
| 06:14.48 | tpope | and /etc/default/rsync |
| 06:14.51 | thu | aye, started |
| 06:15.17 | mipooh | tpope before i had tried with user option and users option, did not work, was not visible even for root before mounting again |
| 06:15.21 | tpope | somiaj: which wiki is that? |
| 06:16.04 | tpope | mipooh: try a line like |
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| 06:16.20 | somiaj | tpope: /msg dpkg wiki (the debian one) |
| 06:16.27 | thu | tpope: I'm not sure how to get the remote rsync to work with the local daemon |
| 06:16.29 | tpope | /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb vfat user,gid=25,umask=0007 0 0 |
| 06:16.44 | somiaj | wiki.debian.org or something like that, I just liked that quote and your action reminded me of it..(: |
| 06:16.46 | tpope | thu: use a :: in the remote address |
| 06:16.47 | thu | tpope: I have rsync --daemon running locally |
| 06:16.51 | thu | oh, double :: |
| 06:17.06 | mipooh | tpope thx ill try |
| 06:17.22 | thu | rsync /remote/dir rsync://thu@10.0.0.1/mnt/foo |
| 06:17.24 | thu | like this? |
| 06:17.30 | tpope | sounds right |
| 06:17.41 | tpope | I don't use that syntax often enough to know |
| 06:17.54 | thu | @ERROR: Unknown module 'mnt' |
| 06:18.21 | tpope | see rsync(1) |
| 06:18.46 | thu | failed to connect to my machine |
| 06:18.55 | mandi | tla/arch is pretty easy to break |
| 06:19.15 | thu | tpope: is there any security setting I should change to allow outside access? |
| 06:19.34 | tpope | thu: probably. I've never set that up before |
| 06:19.48 | tpope | ssh tunneling's always been sufficient for me |
| 06:20.03 | thu | tpope: is that slower than rsyncd? |
| 06:20.34 | tpope | if cpu is more scarce than bandwidth it is |
| 06:20.56 | thu | how does that work? I'll give it a try |
| 06:21.16 | tpope | export RSYNC_RSH=ssh |
| 06:21.21 | tpope | then use like scp |
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| 06:22.09 | Dr_Willis | ssh is one of those tools that the more ya learn about it - the more ya realize you have more to learn :P |
| 06:22.20 | FarrisG | I'm getting "Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)" when I try to boot a new kernel. I know for certain I have support for the filesystem type and the IDE controller built-in. What else could be causing that? |
| 06:22.31 | thu | tpope: I'm trying rsync /mnt/hdd1/foo* rsync://thu@1.2.3.4/mnt/space |
| 06:22.37 | thu | and it doesn't quite work |
| 06:22.42 | tpope | thu: that's for the daemon |
| 06:22.47 | spo0nman | ~seen bob2 |
| 06:22.51 | apt | bob2 is currently on #debian |
| 06:22.51 | thu | oh |
| 06:23.03 | spo0nman | oh |
| 06:23.03 | tpope | try rsync /mnt/hdd1/foo* thu@1.2.4.4:/mnt/space |
| 06:23.17 | thu | yeah, much better |
| 06:23.29 | tpope | FarrisG: an incorrect root= option? |
| 06:23.30 | thu | and slower than smb :\ |
| 06:23.38 | FarrisG | Checked that as well |
| 06:23.51 | tpope | well go with smb |
| 06:23.52 | FarrisG | it's the same as 4 other entries I have that boot fine |
| 06:24.21 | tpope | something special about this kernel? e.g. 2.6 vs. 2.4? |
| 06:24.48 | FarrisG | Nope. They're all 2.6 |
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| 06:25.50 | tpope | diff .config-a .config-b? |
| 06:25.51 | guestish | tpope: ? |
| 06:25.57 | mipooh | tpope thx a lot for help, now it works, only have to find gid for sdd1, will not be too difficult |
| 06:26.10 | guestish | tpope: what do you mean?> |
| 06:26.23 | tpope | guestish: regarding what? |
| 06:26.31 | tpope | it's nonstop action in this channel |
| 06:26.37 | guestish | tpope: <tpope> something special about this kernel? e.g. 2.6 vs. 2.4? |
| 06:26.41 | FarrisG | well, I don't have a config for the others, as they were packaged images |
| 06:26.45 | guestish | yeah, heh |
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| 06:27.12 | tpope | I was addressing FarrisG... |
| 06:27.20 | guestish | just wonderin |
| 06:27.26 | tpope | seeing if he used a 2.4 .config for a 2.6 compile or something |
| 06:27.44 | guestish | o |
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| 06:27.51 | tpope | FarrisG: look in /boot/config* |
| 06:28.14 | guestish | FarrisG: did you go through the kernel's config and make sure everything you need is there? |
| 06:28.23 | guestish | FarrisG: menuconfig, xconfig, gconfig, etc |
| 06:29.09 | FarrisG | well, that's what I'm trying to figure out. Yes, I've done that, but I can't seem to find anything that I'm missing |
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| 06:29.53 | guestish | and you put root filesystem support IN the kernel, not as a module, and you also made sure that if you are making an initrd kernel you have the required image and boot parameters |
| 06:29.57 | guestish | right? |
| 06:31.01 | FarrisG | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:31.10 | wizard_2 | there's this cl command that runs any program at a specific time or in a length of time like 5 minutes from now (not cron - its not a deamon) - I used to always "sleep #n command" but this was a much more elegant way of running timed commands - I just can't remember the command at all. |
| 06:31.30 | guestish | FarrisG: initrd isnt needed if the root filesystem support is compiled in, but if you compiled the kernel as an initrd kernel it is needed no matter what |
| 06:31.33 | tpope | FarrisG: you don't if you did everything right |
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| 06:33.34 | guestish | wizard_2: anacron? |
| 06:33.52 | guestish | wizard_2: wait, nvm, its a daemon |
| 06:33.53 | tpope | wizard_2: at? |
| 06:33.55 | wizard_2 | guestish: I don't think so - it was something simple - 4 chars |
| 06:33.58 | wizard_2 | maybe |
| 06:34.12 | wizard_2 | yes! |
| 06:34.13 | tpope | at will do that |
| 06:34.21 | tpope | I win! |
| 06:34.23 | thu | rsync: writefd_unbuffered failed to write 4092 bytes: phase "send_file_entry": Broken pipe |
| 06:34.24 | guestish | lol |
| 06:34.34 | thu | any idea what I am missing in setting up rsyncd.conf? |
| 06:34.36 | guestish | talk about an ego =P |
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| 06:35.20 | tpope | thu: do you understand the concept of a chroot? |
| 06:35.29 | thu | tpope: sure |
| 06:35.30 | tpope | you kind of need to to set up rsyncd |
| 06:35.33 | tpope | ok |
| 06:35.54 | thu | I can't really get my daemon to log anything |
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| 06:36.05 | thu | which makes it inconvenient to debug |
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| 06:36.12 | guestish | teatime! |
| 06:36.15 | wizard_2 | tpope: thank you very much =) |
| 06:36.21 | wizard_2 | tpope: you are the winner |
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| 06:36.50 | romkillah | this is a stupid question, why can I not write to my fat32 drive? its mounted and I have read access |
| 06:37.05 | RedOct | r u the root? |
| 06:37.16 | tpope | by default, only root gets write access |
| 06:37.28 | guestish | romkillah: think about it, you have read access, read and write access are 2 seperate things |
| 06:37.39 | romkillah | I am at user level, but I think root is in my user groups |
| 06:37.46 | tpope | thu: you tried "syslog facility" |
| 06:37.57 | tpope | the group wont help |
| 06:38.02 | romkillah | cool |
| 06:38.13 | tpope | you need either full root, or change your mount options |
| 06:38.13 | romkillah | isn't it a bad thing to be logged in as root? |
| 06:38.19 | tpope | the latter is a better idea |
| 06:38.26 | tpope | yes, I'm glad you know that |
| 06:38.29 | romkillah | how do I do that |
| 06:38.35 | tpope | do you have it in your fstab? |
| 06:38.42 | romkillah | dunno |
| 06:38.50 | romkillah | newish to linux |
| 06:38.52 | thu | tpope: I actually gave it a log file name but it didn't create the file |
| 06:39.06 | tpope | romkillah: how did you mount it? what command |
| 06:39.10 | T_VoiD | romkillah: you have to give uid, gid and/or umask values in the mount options (or likewise in /etc/fstab) see "man mount" for that |
| 06:39.21 | tpope | thu: might have to do with it trying to create it within the chroot |
| 06:39.22 | romkillah | kewl |
| 06:39.29 | thu | tpope: I have chrooting turned off now |
| 06:39.32 | T_VoiD | romkillah: those are options specific to msdos or vfat filesystems |
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| 06:40.06 | romkillah | k |
| 06:40.19 | romkillah | ah, i found it.. |
| 06:40.55 | T_VoiD | romkillah: there are other interesting options like "user" but "user" can only be set in /etc/fstab |
| 06:40.57 | sap | do you have to logout from all shells before a change to /etc/profile has any affect on new shells? |
| 06:41.26 | tpope | sap: no |
| 06:41.45 | sap | tpope: hmmm, that's strange then, thanks |
| 06:41.55 | tpope | it makes sense |
| 06:41.57 | Penix | !test |
| 06:41.57 | dpkg | No, penix, you're not online any more. |
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| 06:42.07 | tpope | each time you start a shell, it reads that file |
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| 06:42.29 | tpope | so every new shell uses the latest /etc/profile |
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| 06:42.39 | sap | tpope: yes, this is what i thought but it doesn't seem to be happening |
| 06:43.07 | EL_Whistey | Hi, I'm trying to pass a user parameter into postinst via dh_installinit. I've called it with -u X='Y', and I've put #INITPARAMS# into my debian/postinst. I'm also calling dh_installinit with -r. Inspecting /var/dpkg/info/<pkg>.postinst shows me the #INITPARMS# isn't being substituted. Can someone help me please? |
| 06:43.20 | tpope | you can even load it from an existing shell: . /etc/profile |
| 06:43.25 | sap | tpope: i've put a env var in /etc/profile but echo $VAR doesn't show it in new shells |
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| 06:43.38 | tpope | did you export it? |
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| 06:44.09 | tpope | VAR=foo; export VAR |
| 06:44.13 | Echizen | what is the command to remove a user from a group? |
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| 06:44.31 | lokus | fellas i dont have a gui to log into |
| 06:44.41 | lokus | when i try to install all the package i get an error |
| 06:44.50 | lokus | not enough space in /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 06:44.57 | lokus | space is 99mb and there is only 9mb free |
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| 06:45.51 | T_VoiD | sap: a login shell starts with a - . so it's not called sh but -sh . or -bash instead of just bash |
| 06:46.01 | sap | tpope: i've tried 'export VAR=blah' |
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| 06:46.18 | g4lt | lokus apt-get clean will gain you some breathing room |
| 06:46.24 | lokus | nah didnt work |
| 06:46.29 | tpope | sap: that's actually bash syntax, not pure bourne |
| 06:46.30 | lokus | i did have fedora on here |
| 06:46.35 | lokus | before |
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| 06:46.46 | g4lt | lokus then you need a bigger /var |
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| 06:47.05 | Echizen | yo, anyone? |
| 06:47.10 | lokus | hrm |
| 06:47.17 | lokus | how do i see if i got fedora off there |
| 06:47.23 | lokus | or how do i increase the size |
| 06:47.35 | tpope | Echizen: usermod? |
| 06:48.07 | EL_Whistey | lokus, can't you just wipe and recreate the partitions on your disk, start from scratch? |
| 06:48.08 | tpope | lokus: fdisk if the command line doesn't scare you |
| 06:48.29 | romkillah | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:48.43 | lokus | when i do cfdisk i get a fatal error |
| 06:49.11 | EL_Whistey | fdisk doesn't have the curses interface, so might work for you. |
| 06:49.53 | lokus | how big should i make the var? |
| 06:50.14 | sap | tpope: echo $SHELL gives me /bin/bash, so this should work? |
| 06:50.16 | tpope | how much can you spare? |
| 06:50.21 | Echizen | so i think the user is in two groups right now. so i do "usermod -G group1 username" will it be in that group and _only_ that group then |
| 06:50.23 | lokus | i got a 40gb drive |
| 06:50.24 | Echizen | ? |
| 06:50.33 | guestish | tpope: you're on a role :) |
| 06:50.48 | Supaplex | roll ? |
| 06:50.48 | wide288 | Maybe apt-get install ndvia driver? |
| 06:50.53 | guestish | Supaplex: that too |
| 06:50.59 | tpope | sap: yes, but it's best to still to pure bourne syntax in /etc/profile |
| 06:51.00 | lokus | my first part of the drive had 100mb |
| 06:51.03 | guestish | !+nvidia howto |
| 06:51.09 | dpkg | http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/nvidia-2.6-Debian/index.html |
| 06:51.09 | lokus | second had like 30 something gb |
| 06:51.13 | lokus | 3rd had like few hundred mb |
| 06:51.37 | tpope | Echizen: man usermod |
| 06:51.45 | sap | tpope: 'export VAR='blah';echo $VAR' works fine, this is weird ... thanks for your help |
| 06:51.57 | Supaplex | does irssi have something like bx's /detach? |
| 06:52.17 | tpope | Supaplex: it's just missing a reattach :-) |
| 06:52.19 | guestish | tpope: thomas pope? |
| 06:52.27 | Echizen | tpope: ah, missed that. thanx. |
| 06:52.27 | tpope | tim, actually |
| 06:52.35 | guestish | tim? nvm then |
| 06:52.45 | romkillah | what should my primary group be? |
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| 06:53.11 | tpope | romkillah: the one named after your user |
| 06:53.16 | romkillah | kool |
| 06:53.21 | guestish | tim pope...tim pope...doesnt ring a bell |
| 06:53.25 | wide288 | thank you .guestish and dpkg |
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| 06:53.34 | dmp | it's been awhile since i've used debian: if I have a .deb that is now a file in my filesystem, how do i get apt-get to recognize it? |
| 06:53.35 | guestish | wide288: np |
| 06:53.35 | tpope | what? everybody knows me! |
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| 06:53.42 | guestish | dmp: dpkg -i filename.dev |
| 06:53.44 | guestish | dmp: dpkg -i filename.deb |
| 06:53.54 | guestish | tpope: not anymore |
| 06:54.07 | guestish | tpope: sorry to break it to yas |
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| 06:54.52 | guestish | Cheif Linux Information Technican eh? now thats a mouthful of a real name |
| 06:55.04 | lokus | for hdc1 do i want primary or logical |
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| 06:55.13 | lokus | and what about for hdc2 and hdc3 |
| 06:55.17 | mdh | guestish: sounds kinda fishy to me |
| 06:55.31 | tpope | actually, my irssi config must be messed up then |
| 06:55.43 | guestish | you can have up to 4 primaries (an extended parition is a primary partition), and OSes can only run from a primary partition |
| 06:55.47 | tpope | I use that "name" on another network |
| 06:55.54 | guestish | ic |
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| 06:56.08 | tpope | guestish: it's a fun acronym |
| 06:56.11 | guestish | mdh: really? seems more like a title for me |
| 06:56.12 | g4lt | lokus uhm hdc1 IS primary, logical are partitions 5 and above |
| 06:56.24 | guestish | tpope: acronym for what? |
| 06:56.42 | tpope | guestish: you're looking at it backwards |
| 06:56.48 | tpope | what is an acronym for it? |
| 06:57.09 | guestish | nacintcet noitamrofni xunil fiehc? |
| 06:57.17 | tpope | that would be an anagram |
| 06:57.29 | guestish | !define acronym |
| 06:57.30 | sap | tpope: 'export VAR='blah';echo $VAR' ... i did this in a shell not in /etc/profile .... but detaching from screen logging and the then back and reattaching seems to have worked. |
| 06:57.33 | lokus | ok |
| 06:57.36 | guestish | !dict acronym |
| 06:57.38 | sap | tpope: does that make sense? |
| 06:57.40 | dpkg | Dictionary 'acronym' (4 shown): <jargon> An identifier formed from some of the letters (often the initials) of a phrase and used as an abbreviation. This dictionary contains a great many acronyms; see the contents page for a list. ;; See also TLA. ;; 150 1 definitions retrieved 151 "acronym" foldoc "The Free On-line Dictionary of Computing (27 SEP 03)" acronym ;; a word formed from the initial letters of a multi-word name. |
| 06:57.40 | lokus | i just dont understand about adding the Types to the drives |
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| 06:57.48 | lokus | thats what confuses me |
| 06:57.54 | guestish | XLIT? |
| 06:58.02 | guestish | CLIT? |
| 06:58.05 | guestish | oh, heh |
| 06:58.07 | tpope | there you go |
| 06:58.16 | guestish | hrm, i should of caught that one |
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| 06:58.27 | mdh | lokus: if you need more than 4 partitions on the one drive, you need to make at least one logical partition |
| 06:58.36 | guestish | theres a certain irony there |
| 06:59.03 | tpope | sap: sort of, but I don't see your question |
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| 06:59.06 | guestish | infact i see much irony in that |
| 06:59.21 | tpope | btw, you can install a real OS on an extended partition |
| 06:59.36 | mdh | guestish: mmm... perhaps irony isn't exactly what you mean |
| 06:59.44 | mdh | !dict irony |
| 06:59.52 | guestish | tpope: i thought only grub supports that, the windows loader and lilo dont right? |
| 06:59.56 | dpkg | Dictionary 'irony' (3 shown; 5 total): incongruity between what might be expected and what actually occurs; "the irony of Ireland's copying the nation she most hated" ;; a trope that involves incongruity between what is expected and what occurs ;; Irony \I"ron*y\, a. [From Iron.] 1. Made or consisting of iron; partaking of iron; iron; as, irony chains; irony particles. [R.]. |
| 07:00.08 | guestish | mdh: no, i mean irony |
| 07:00.13 | tpope | lilo does |
| 07:00.30 | guestish | a good word for lilo is venerable =P |
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| 07:00.43 | tpope | ironic that an irc nerd goes by clit |
| 07:01.10 | tpope | lokus: are you reinstalling? |
| 07:01.13 | guestish | mdh: a title reguarding someone as the top of a profession has an acronym of something reguarded as base within english speaking societies |
| 07:01.23 | lokus | yes |
| 07:01.23 | guestish | regarding* |
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| 07:01.29 | lokus | repartitioning |
| 07:01.37 | tpope | even better |
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| 07:01.37 | kinema | can anyone recommend a place for Debian based virtual server hosting? |
| 07:01.38 | guestish | mdh: irony |
| 07:01.38 | mdh | lokus: on ia32 a BIOS limitation prevents having more than 4 partitions on a disk. therefore this concept of "primary" and "extended" partitions comes about |
| 07:01.51 | tpope | lokus: you can't easily do that without a reinstall |
| 07:01.59 | lokus | ok |
| 07:02.02 | lokus | i am reinstalling |
| 07:02.02 | tagada | Hi, I'm looking for the file inttypes.h needed for the compilation of Mplayer do u know where to find it ? |
| 07:02.13 | guestish | !tell tagada about apt-file |
| 07:02.39 | lokus | so should my swap drive be hdc3 |
| 07:02.43 | lokus | hdc1 should be boot i take it |
| 07:02.51 | lokus | and the hdc2 the bulk of my drive should be...? |
| 07:02.54 | mdh | guestish: or, perhaps, they're both near the top of a good thing? |
| 07:03.00 | guestish | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:03.22 | lokus | just so i know when it asks me that during setup |
| 07:03.23 | guestish | mdh: i suppose |
| 07:03.39 | mdh | lokus: if you only need 3 partitions, make them all primary |
| 07:03.50 | guestish | lokus: or even better, use vpm |
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| 07:04.01 | guestish | er, whats it called |
| 07:04.09 | guestish | the auto resizing parition thingy |
| 07:04.17 | lokus | yea i did make them primary |
| 07:04.24 | lokus | i just dont know what each is called during setup |
| 07:04.25 | tpope | lokus: you need a / as well |
| 07:04.30 | lokus | it made hdc1 root partition |
| 07:04.31 | mdh | guestish: LVM |
| 07:04.36 | guestish | there we go |
| 07:04.36 | guestish | lvm |
| 07:04.37 | lokus | even though hdc2 has like 35gb |
| 07:04.39 | guestish | use lvm lokus |
| 07:04.50 | guestish | !+lvm |
| 07:04.51 | dpkg | methinks lvm is at http://www.sistina.com/products_lvm.htm, Logical Volume Manager for Linux, or ask me about lvm_tutorial, or extremely sexy. almost as sexy as Theo |
| 07:05.00 | guestish | who is theo? |
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| 07:05.03 | guestish | !+factinfo lvm |
| 07:05.04 | dpkg | lvm -- last modified at Thu Apr 1 07:05:37 2004 by Penix!~wenas@3ffe:b80:1c6e:0:0:0:0:2; it has been requested 6 times, last by guestish, 13s ago. |
| 07:05.06 | mdh | er, no, do not use LVM |
| 07:05.11 | tpope | do newbs and lvm mix? |
| 07:05.11 | lokus | no i dont want lvm |
| 07:05.14 | guestish | why not mdh? |
| 07:05.23 | guestish | tpope: they can if you stir enough |
| 07:05.26 | mdh | tpope: not really |
| 07:05.37 | mdh | guestish: because this isn't a problem for LVM to solve |
| 07:05.38 | tpope | guestish: the same is true of about anything |
| 07:05.47 | guestish | tpope: exactly |
| 07:05.55 | guestish | mdh: who said theres a problem? |
| 07:06.00 | sway__ | so ... webmin comes with madrake already? |
| 07:06.01 | tpope | guestish: I hope you're really good at stirring |
| 07:06.08 | sway__ | err.. oops |
| 07:06.11 | sway__ | wrong channel |
| 07:06.12 | sway__ | ignore |
| 07:06.25 | guestish | tpope: i happily can say i graduated first of my stirring class |
| 07:07.03 | tagada | may I put the libc6-dev on my box without corrupting it ? (conflict with gcc for example)? |
| 07:07.06 | guestish | ~comfort sway__ |
| 07:07.12 | apt | There, there, sway__. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 07:07.18 | FarrisG | well i'll be damned |
| 07:07.19 | Supaplex | hehe |
| 07:07.24 | sway__ | awwww |
| 07:07.24 | mdh | lokus: I think what you're trying to do is make hdc1 your root partition, hdc3 swap and hdc2 for "big" things like /var or /home or whatever |
| 07:07.25 | lokus | fellas im headng to bed |
| 07:07.25 | FarrisG | --initrd did the trick |
| 07:07.27 | lokus | thx for the help |
| 07:07.31 | lokus | ill talk to yall tomorrow |
| 07:07.43 | lokus | hdc1 should be root partition? |
| 07:07.48 | lokus | cause i did that in setup |
| 07:07.51 | tpope | root or boot |
| 07:07.58 | lokus | yea |
| 07:07.59 | guestish | FarrisG: initrd is your friend |
| 07:08.00 | lokus | thats what i meant |
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| 07:08.07 | FarrisG | indeed it is |
| 07:08.08 | EL_Whistey | Root my boot. |
| 07:08.09 | guestish | ~hug sway__ |
| 07:08.13 | apt | ACTION hugs sway__ |
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| 07:08.30 | guestish | FarrisG: you musta made an initrd kernel by mistake, heh |
| 07:09.03 | FarrisG | Ok, next problem... How the hell do I install ATI's supposed linux drivers if all they supply is an rpm, and alien won't properly convert the package? |
| 07:09.22 | lokus | install LILO in MBR or root? |
| 07:09.22 | mdh | FarrisG: don't use ATI's drivers, use the free stuff from dri.sf.net |
| 07:09.36 | tpope | ideally, don't use ati |
| 07:09.41 | mdh | FarrisG: ATI's drivers have a habit of locking the system up |
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| 07:09.48 | FarrisG | cool, I'll check it out |
| 07:09.50 | tagada | do I have the tvoutput with dri stuffs |
| 07:09.59 | Supaplex | ask ati for the gpl driver :) |
| 07:10.01 | tagada | cause with ati debian driver there is no tv out |
| 07:10.19 | Supaplex | or like tpope said, use somethin else |
| 07:10.31 | mdh | FarrisG: your kernel should already have support for agpgart and the relevent ATI DRM |
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| 07:11.13 | mdh | maybe suggest something if you're going to say "use something else" |
| 07:11.38 | mdh | AFAIK the top 3 3D card manufacturers are all in the same boat driver-wise |
| 07:11.39 | tpope | nvidia's drivers aren't open source, but at least they work ok |
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| 07:12.01 | guestish | !+nvidia howto |
| 07:12.02 | dpkg | http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/nvidia-2.6-Debian/index.html |
| 07:12.03 | tpope | nvidia doesn't limit you to rpm, for one |
| 07:12.05 | mdh | nvidia's drivers lock up the system also. |
| 07:12.11 | guestish | not mine =P |
| 07:12.18 | Supaplex | must be a personal experience |
| 07:12.19 | guestish | besides, nvidia has debian drivers |
| 07:12.21 | tagada | do you know the package needed for make ? |
| 07:12.32 | guestish | tagada: you dont make make ;) |
| 07:12.43 | guestish | tagada: make makes you! |
| 07:12.50 | guestish | tagada: apt-cache depends make |
| 07:12.51 | g4lt | tagada surprisingly, make |
| 07:12.52 | tpope | nvidia at least tries |
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| 07:12.55 | mdh | nvidia don't have debian drivers |
| 07:12.56 | tagada | I'vnt got it and apt-file search make give me an annormous file . Ok i'l see tgat |
| 07:12.57 | tagada | that |
| 07:13.09 | mdh | there's a non-free debian package to get nvidia's binary-only drivers |
| 07:13.10 | guestish | mdh: yep, a guy made debs for nvidia drivers |
| 07:13.19 | lokus | night fellas |
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| 07:13.23 | lokus | thx for the help ttyl |
| 07:13.24 | TTT | Hi. Has anyone here played with uclibc? If i want to use a kernel in uclibc (half-embedded) system, can I compile it on normal glibc system? |
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| 07:13.31 | mdh | bye lokus |
| 07:13.53 | guestish | mdh: close enough |
| 07:14.04 | mdh | guestish: they're not made for debian. it's just a packaging around the stock nvidia binary-only driver |
| 07:14.07 | tpope | guestish: I think mdh has a somewhat stricter definition of debian |
| 07:14.24 | guestish | tpope: yes...he must... |
| 07:14.24 | tpope | and technically, his is more accurate |
| 07:14.33 | guestish | tpope: sure, but im a realist |
| 07:14.51 | guestish | tpope: and like all realists, i look at the reality, not a textbook definition |
| 07:15.09 | tagada | it says that make is on libc6 however I already have the package libc6 installed and no make :( |
| 07:15.17 | tagada | don't understand that |
| 07:15.20 | EL_Whistey | If I said I was thinking of switching from RedHat to Debian, would someone help me with my debhelper problem? |
| 07:15.27 | mdh | tagada: apt-get install make |
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| 07:15.47 | tpope | EL_Whistey: is that an attempt at a bribe? |
| 07:15.59 | tagada | fucking hell I didn't made that lol ... Regards ! |
| 07:16.02 | EL_Whistey | tpope, you got it :) |
| 07:16.06 | mdh | EL_Whistey: probably not, because until you switch from Redhat you don't have a debhelper problem, as Redhat doesn't have debhelper ;P |
| 07:16.08 | jmob | trashmatic: that's cruel |
| 07:16.08 | guestish | someone made a debian binary of nvidia drivers, those debs are within the debian repositories => there are debs for nvidia on debian |
| 07:16.13 | guestish | trashmatic: ? |
| 07:16.46 | guestish | trashmatic: what'd i ever do to you to diserve that fate? |
| 07:16.55 | mdh | < guestish> besides, nvidia has debian drivers |
| 07:17.09 | mdh | is what you originally said, which is what I argued against. |
| 07:17.21 | trashmatic | you've committed heresy upon the church of Free Software |
| 07:17.40 | guestish | hows this sound mdh, there are 3rd party debs for nvidia drivers, better? |
| 07:17.48 | somiaj | also following the instructions that come with nvidia-kernel-source isn't *that* hard |
| 07:17.52 | Supaplex | I know of firestarter, garddog and killerfw for iptables wrappers. Is there something I can read that'll compare these and any other currently maintained firewall scripts? |
| 07:17.52 | guestish | trashmatic: im not christian, nor a cultist |
| 07:18.03 | jmob | RMS is the self appointed Messiah of Free Software. |
| 07:18.13 | guestish | heh |
| 07:18.13 | mdh | mmm, its not really 3rd-party. still done by debian, just in non-free afact |
| 07:18.21 | guestish | mdh: 2nd party? |
| 07:18.27 | tpope | mmm, it's been a while since I've seen a good flame war |
| 07:18.41 | mdh | I've never really seen a good flame war |
| 07:18.44 | guestish | well techinically it is 3rd party cause the debian debs arent sactioned by nvidia |
| 07:18.52 | Supaplex | !seen a good flame war |
| 07:18.56 | dpkg | i haven't seen 'a good flame war', Supaplex |
| 07:19.06 | somiaj | wow, there are, but the only ones I see in sid are for the 2.4.25 kernel which you shouldn't be using cause of the recent exploite anyways. |
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| 07:19.08 | tpope | third party to nvidia, first party to debian |
| 07:19.11 | mdh | dpkg, botsnack |
| 07:19.11 | dpkg | aw, gee, mdh |
| 07:19.15 | lokus | fuck man it still said not enough space |
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| 07:19.18 | lokus | and i made it 300mb |
| 07:19.24 | lokus | this is annoying me |
| 07:19.30 | guestish | RMS, he the guy who started GNU? |
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| 07:19.39 | jmob | guestish: afaik |
| 07:19.41 | mdh | SOB |
| 07:19.52 | g4lt | guestish no, root mean square ;P |
| 07:19.56 | guestish | and is obsessed with making a 100% GNU system? |
| 07:20.08 | tpope | lokus: make what 300MB? |
| 07:20.47 | tpope | mdh: who's the SOB? rms or guestish? |
| 07:20.48 | guestish | so obsessed that he wants to discard a perfectly good kernel called linux and use a thing called hurd which does nothing but waste valuable code? :) |
| 07:20.53 | jmob | guestish: RMS just hates non-free software |
| 07:20.58 | g4lt | lokus your /var is 300M? and it's still not enough? |
| 07:21.17 | g4lt | guestish tell that to tarzeau, I dare you ;P |
| 07:21.19 | jmob | guestish: so, he doesn't endorse any Linux/GNU distro because they all support non-free softs in one way or another |
| 07:21.24 | mdh | no, this stupid laptop |
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| 07:21.43 | mdh | it's been spending the last two hours attempting to uninstall norton's internet security / antivirus |
| 07:22.07 | mdh | the process has even locked up a reboot |
| 07:22.15 | marcst | good grief |
| 07:22.17 | guestish | mdh: cut the power |
| 07:22.27 | g4lt | mdh quick solution, install Debian on it ;P |
| 07:22.44 | tpope | omg, technicalities about the defition of debian and free software from a windows user |
| 07:22.52 | mdh | g4lt: I wish. It's the boss's laptop, not mine |
| 07:22.53 | jmob | mdh: run sync a few times and forcibly power off |
| 07:23.23 | g4lt | mdh tell the boss to then ;) |
| 07:23.32 | guestish | though RMS has made some really good opensource software |
| 07:23.35 | mdh | jmob: if it was linux I could alt+sysrq+s/alt+sysrq+u/alt+sysrq+b ;) |
| 07:23.43 | guestish | !+rms |
| 07:23.44 | dpkg | from memory, rms is RMS:software::Buddha:ethics |
| 07:23.48 | jmob | mdh: :( |
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| 07:24.01 | mdh | unfortunately my workplace got overrun by bill gates love children |
| 07:24.01 | marcst | mdh: i do hope you're getting paid for this and it's not something "extra" |
| 07:24.03 | Havoc_Inc | I have a problem with booting my raid |
| 07:24.29 | Havoc_Inc | kernel panic. VFS. unable to mount root FS on 72:05 |
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| 07:24.33 | marcst | man nothing i hate more than helping out friends or cow-orkers with their windows problems... |
| 07:24.45 | g4lt | mdh when something like that happens, my salary requirements usually increase by an order of magnitude ;) |
| 07:24.47 | mdh | marcst: well... it's kinda something extra. I only really want it to work so I can continue watching season 3 of "coupling" ;) |
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| 07:25.04 | mdh | before I have to give the laptop back to him ;) |
| 07:25.11 | tak | has anyone, built gtk 2.4? pango1.4 is having problems |
| 07:25.17 | mdh | g4lt: I tried asking for a raise. didn't work :( |
| 07:25.25 | tak | it wont configure with the right backends |
| 07:25.38 | TTT | mdh: did you try blackmail :)) ? |
| 07:25.42 | holycow | http://www.k10k.net/dropbox/ford_cat.mpg <-- hehe |
| 07:25.52 | mdh | TTT: of course. |
| 07:25.59 | tpope | marcst: if they're friends, I just tell them I don't know/use windows |
| 07:26.06 | marcst | "gee boss, what would the ceo say if i mentionned this folder full of kiddypr0n i found on your laptop" |
| 07:26.28 | marcst | tpope: i've tried that :) doesn't work |
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| 07:26.32 | mdh | friends don't let friends use windows |
| 07:26.51 | guestish | mdh: have you been to make windows anonymous meetings? :) |
| 07:27.06 | TTT | holycow: that was cruel |
| 07:27.06 | trashmatic | heh, in public i always joke about how i can barely turn on a computer, much less use it |
| 07:27.06 | mdh | I hate it with a passionate intense loathing |
| 07:27.15 | marcst | i can usually get them to install linux tho |
| 07:27.15 | dmp | the latest 100MB image of sarge doesnt have gcc/make by default |
| 07:27.17 | dmp | doh |
| 07:27.27 | dmp | do i have to download the full image to get access to all these packages? |
| 07:27.34 | trashmatic | which is pretty funny when there's a few friends around who know i'm full of shit |
| 07:27.36 | dmp | trying to install on vmware with no network is not easy ;) |
| 07:27.39 | holycow | TTT, :) |
| 07:27.42 | g4lt | mdh forget your windows-fu then ;) |
| 07:27.50 | marcst | TTT: it's fake btw... |
| 07:27.53 | somiaj | dmp: yea, 100mb sounds like a base install with a little more stuff (base install is about 40-50M) |
| 07:28.02 | mdh | we tried that here, back when we were 90% unix. unfortunately the management sat next to the company microsoft buttboy |
| 07:28.06 | TTT | marcst: yeah, probably, but looked cruel anyway :) |
| 07:28.19 | mdh | who spread more FUD than microsoft's own marketing dept. |
| 07:28.20 | guestish | !+unix |
| 07:28.21 | dpkg | from memory, unix is a broad definition for a very popular kind of OS or is what the Internet was built on, or sexy, or http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/who/dmr/otherunix.html, or http://www.unix-systems.org/ |
| 07:28.24 | marcst | mdh: omg... i feel your pain... |
| 07:28.48 | tak | does anyone know how to build gtk 2.4? gtk wont configure |
| 07:28.51 | dmp | are there any groups of packages i can download anywhere and burn to a cd instead of grabbing a 650MB image? |
| 07:29.01 | guestish | !tell dmp about jidgo |
| 07:29.06 | guestish | !tell dmp about jigdo |
| 07:29.11 | somiaj | tak: why are you trying to build gtk 2.4? |
| 07:29.19 | dmp | !help jigdo |
| 07:29.21 | TTT | heh, when my boss tries to get my fix windows boxes, i say i don't know how :) I only know how to fix linux |
| 07:29.32 | tak | somiaj: hmmm, is there something i dont know? |
| 07:29.33 | g4lt | guestish that was so important you hadda say it twice? ;P |
| 07:29.48 | tpope | no, he just can't type |
| 07:29.51 | somiaj | dmp: /msg dpkg jigdo |
| 07:29.56 | marcst | tehre wsa a silght tpyo |
| 07:30.07 | Active2 | I've adopt a orphaned package i've set myself as new maintainer and fixed 5 bugs... |
| 07:30.09 | somiaj | tak: why are you trying to build it if there are debs for it out there? |
| 07:30.25 | holycow | TTT, heh, i tell windows users to go fuck them selves every time they ask me to fix an infected machine |
| 07:30.26 | g4lt | !cookie Active2 |
| 07:30.29 | Active2 | but i'm not a debian developer |
| 07:30.30 | holycow | outside of work of course :) |
| 07:30.34 | tak | somiaj: are you serious? where! |
| 07:30.52 | g4lt | shit, forgot that "cookie" was builtin |
| 07:31.01 | TTT | holycow: well, that's what I thought. Telling my boss to fuck himself would be hmm, bad for career |
| 07:31.15 | Active2 | g4lt: -> say me what to do next :) |
| 07:31.17 | holycow | lol ;) |
| 07:31.19 | mdh | holycow: I'm not allowed to do that anymore. Apparently I'm "inflexible" |
| 07:31.41 | mdh | I think tolerating windows at all in here makes me extremely flexible, but I'm not the one making the definitions obviously |
| 07:31.44 | somiaj | tak: did you happen to read the topic when you came into this room? |
| 07:31.45 | g4lt | Active2 start closing QA bugs |
| 07:31.47 | kinema | can anyone recommend a place for Debian based virtual server hosting? |
| 07:32.04 | holycow | mdh, heh |
| 07:32.24 | Guerin | kinema: rimuhosting.com |
| 07:32.25 | g4lt | mdh show them "inflexible", get another job |
| 07:32.25 | TTT | YES |
| 07:32.29 | TTT | I finally got it working |
| 07:32.56 | Guerin | kinema: virtual root, 1/2 hour tech support by email or IM, they rawk |
| 07:32.57 | holycow | don't worry, hang in there, windows will start being replaced even on the desktop however slowly |
| 07:32.59 | tagada | is mplayer on debian .deb package? |
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| 07:33.12 | tpope | tagada: not an official one |
| 07:33.15 | TTT | wireless with ndiswrapper drivers in a uclibc distro that fits in a floppy disk (leaf.sf.net). I hacked that thing for ~2 days |
| 07:33.16 | g4lt | !tell tagada about marillat |
| 07:33.34 | TTT | !tell TTT about marillat |
| 07:33.34 | tak | somiaj: hmm, no, whats the topic? i didnt want to piss anyone off |
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| 07:33.43 | dmp | so jigdo is for creating ISO images, it it not? |
| 07:33.50 | mdh | we get filmed on friday, I made sure my gnome/openbox desktop was visible, #debian got a glance, etc :) |
| 07:33.53 | Caesar | dmp: Yes |
| 07:33.54 | mdh | s/get/got/ |
| 07:34.02 | holycow | mdh, heh :) |
| 07:34.04 | holycow | ^% |
| 07:34.09 | dmp | ok, what about just downloading a base install of packages, i already have debian installed, i dont need an ISO |
| 07:34.11 | holycow | ^5 even |
| 07:34.11 | Caesar | dmp: Lets you download it piecemeal instead of a ginormous iso file |
| 07:34.32 | g4lt | TTT you CAN /msg dpkg... |
| 07:34.32 | Caesar | !tell dmp about debootstrap |
| 07:34.46 | mdh | I was in firefox most of the time, was pricing a new system. Made sure www.debian.org was open in another tab ;) |
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| 07:35.01 | mdh | this film is apparently going around to government departments etc :) |
| 07:35.04 | TTT | g4lt: well, i'm not that familar with bots in this channel |
| 07:35.15 | Guerin | mdh: representin' :) |
| 07:35.17 | mdh | although I think if microsoft see it, I will be getting another job ;) |
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| 07:35.31 | streuner | TTT: /msg dpkg help |
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| 07:35.38 | TTT | g4lt: anyway, it worked. Although I know marillat sources, i hoped to see some background/hostory info about them |
| 07:35.59 | TTT | streuner: thanx, that helped |
| 07:36.53 | mdh | in 20 minutes I'm meant to be up on stage playing keys |
| 07:37.11 | tpope | I can't keep up with this channel |
| 07:37.15 | somiaj | tak: /msg dpkg gnome2.6 (its in experimental) but why do you need gtk 2.4, is 2.2 not good enough for the time? |
| 07:37.31 | tpope | it's like idling in bizarro world |
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| 07:38.24 | gilga | hello |
| 07:38.35 | tak | somiaj: well, 2.4 is the latest, 2.2 might work, i was trying to get the new verstions of xchat and gaim which need gtk |
| 07:38.35 | dmp | Caesar: i still dont think that's what I need, i have no network connection, and to get the network connection (installing ndiswrapper), I have to resolve a bunch of dependencies |
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| 07:38.46 | g4lt | tpope actually, only 695 users is rather light |
| 07:38.55 | dmp | the only way I can get files to the vmware install is through CD |
| 07:39.10 | g4lt | gilga did you really expect 695 people to say hello to you? |
| 07:39.14 | dmp | starting with the 100MB CD wasn't enough to get be going enough for networ |
| 07:39.30 | gilga | I get a "no screens found" error when I attempt to load X on a fresh 3.0r2 install. any dieas wgt? g4lt: hahaha |
| 07:39.41 | gilga | ideas* |
| 07:40.04 | somiaj | tak: are you running debian stable? |
| 07:40.08 | streuner | !noscreensfound |
| 07:40.08 | dpkg | well, noscreensfound is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and SAY NO to the framebuffer question If that doesn't work, read /var/log/XFree86.* and see what's wrong. No, really. READ it. I mean it. Really read it. |
| 07:40.09 | g4lt | !tell gilga about no screens found |
| 07:40.09 | gilga | woody |
| 07:40.11 | tak | gilga: reconfigure X |
| 07:40.20 | tak | somiaj: yes i am |
| 07:40.29 | gilga | and i already ran xf86cfg |
| 07:40.40 | gilga | did I run it, wrong? |
| 07:40.42 | streuner | gilga: argh |
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| 07:40.58 | somiaj | tak: look into backports /msg dpkg backports, you won't find gtk2 in stable, you'll have to get a backport of it. |
| 07:41.01 | gilga | streuner:? |
| 07:41.29 | g4lt | gilga yeah, you screwed up |
| 07:41.31 | streuner | gilga: did you see what the *bot* told us? |
| 07:41.39 | tak | somiaj: is gtk2 in unstable? |
| 07:42.04 | gilga | is tak the bot? |
| 07:42.10 | gilga | guess not |
| 07:42.11 | tak | he he |
| 07:42.21 | gilga | no i didn't see anything then |
| 07:42.28 | somiaj | tak: and testing, but you don't want to grab things from testing or unstable and put them in a stable system, but there are backports for common stuff like that. |
| 07:42.33 | streuner | gilga: /msg dpkg noscreensfound |
| 07:42.43 | tak | gilga: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 07:42.54 | g4lt | tak the bot |
| 07:42.58 | Active2 | g4lt: i've closed those 5 bugs in debian/changelog isn't that enough ? |
| 07:43.05 | g4lt | tak botsnack |
| 07:43.20 | g4lt | Active2 qa bugs are on unmaintained packages... |
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| 07:44.05 | _xxenon | can I use package php4 with a php3 site ? |
| 07:45.00 | g4lt | cuse public aways can get REALLY annoying.... |
| 07:45.12 | tpope | 700 users and people still announce their aways? |
| 07:45.38 | cafuego | tpope: 50 of so of them seem to insist we care, yes. |
| 07:45.40 | g4lt | tpope go figure... |
| 07:45.45 | Active2 | g4lt: ok but when i'm closing these bugs the new release of that package isn't uploaded so not they are not fixed on the debian ftp's |
| 07:45.49 | cuse | g4lt: does it make a difference to quit and reenter the channel, i guess not |
| 07:46.01 | gilga | how do I identify "my video csrds bus driver" ? |
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| 07:46.06 | gilga | err |
| 07:46.10 | trashmatic | I AM GOING TO GO TO THE BATHROOM NOW I HOPE YOU ALL DO NOT MISS ME TOO MUCH |
| 07:46.14 | gilga | how do I identify "my video cards bus identifier" ? |
| 07:46.17 | cafuego | cuse: yes, coz /quit and /jio can be filtered in the client. |
| 07:46.22 | Guerin | gilga: you shouldn't have to, just leave it blank |
| 07:46.30 | cafuego | gilga: See where it says "leave blank" ? |
| 07:46.49 | cafuego | trashmatic: OK, I WILL ALSO GO AND POO FOR 5 MINUTES |
| 07:47.03 | mdh | HEY EVERYONE THE LADIES TRAIN IS ABOUT TO LEAVE |
| 07:47.11 | cafuego | I AM BACK NOW, IT WAS A VERY SMELLY ONE |
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| 07:47.17 | cuse | cafuego: you can filter everything |
| 07:47.17 | gilga | failed to initialize core devices... |
| 07:47.18 | Active2 | g4lt: look at the package raidtools2 (that's what i want to adopt) |
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| 07:47.29 | gilga | mouse problem |
| 07:47.30 | cafuego | cuse: The point is I shouldn't have to. |
| 07:47.30 | trashmatic | I JUST PISSED FOR 32 SECONDS STRAIGHT |
| 07:47.34 | gilga | I use a usbmouse |
| 07:47.35 | cuse | cafuego, mdh: :)) |
| 07:47.42 | Guerin | gilga: mdetect |
| 07:47.53 | cafuego | cuse: if you go away, just don't type ANYTHING - people can see you've been idling in your /whois info. |
| 07:47.55 | gilga | lemme get out my usb/ps2 converterr, easier |
| 07:47.59 | mdh | cor blimey, look at what just blew out of my nose! I never knew those colours existed outside radioactive labs |
| 07:48.17 | cafuego | mdh: Gimme, if it's salty! |
| 07:48.20 | g4lt | cafuego renicking is allowable ;) |
| 07:48.21 | Guerin | trashmatic/cafuego: Nah, not enough U's 2's plsthxk's in there... |
| 07:48.32 | miten | apache-ant-1.6.1-bin.zip.torrent is the search I need to do on yahoo for download using bit torrent? |
| 07:48.37 | mdh | this is so salty, even anchovies cringe |
| 07:48.41 | cafuego | g4lt: Also more easily filterable |
| 07:48.53 | tpope | g4lt: says who? :-) |
| 07:49.05 | cafuego | boy, those beans... |
| 07:49.06 | tpope | #irssi has a ban on *away!*@* |
| 07:49.09 | mdh | renicking plays havoc with nickserv though :( |
| 07:49.16 | g4lt | tpope then /ignore me now, because I renick when I leave |
| 07:49.45 | cafuego | g4lt: half the people here have *you* on ignore anyway ;-) |
| 07:50.32 | g4lt | cafuego and 1/2 of THOSE end up regretting it |
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| 07:50.39 | mdh | what I want to know is, when I /ignore * CRAP, the channel doesn't go quiet as often as it should ;) |
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| 07:51.02 | cafuego | mdh: Coz my stuff isn't auto-marked as crap |
| 07:51.12 | cafuego | mdh: I am smarter then a bayesian filter |
| 07:51.23 | Guerin | cafuego: hey, do you run a mail scanner with your postfix rig? |
| 07:51.36 | TR0N1C | I have a Latitude CP and can't get the sound to work with knoppix 3.4. Anyone solved this already? |
| 07:51.52 | TR0N1C | It has a Crystal CS423x sound chip. Does that ring a bell for anyone? |
| 07:51.52 | cafuego | TR0N1C: This isn't #knoppix |
| 07:52.01 | g4lt | the cafuego test: can a bayesean filter sussessfully filter a given entity: if yes, it's a computer, if no, it's a human ;P |
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| 07:52.27 | cafuego | Guerin: Yes, I do. |
| 07:52.28 | MezzyMeat | how can i change the speed of repeat on my keyboard? |
| 07:52.36 | streuner | treed: yes - it rings the bell that you someone who doesn't read /topics at all :-) |
| 07:52.36 | cafuego | Guerin: after it gets pased the rbl's it gets spamassassin'd. |
| 07:52.48 | cafuego | MezzyMeat: man kbdrate |
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| 07:52.55 | streuner | TR0N1C: ^^^ |
| 07:52.59 | Guerin | cafuego: no antivirus? Your regexes should kill most of those, right? |
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| 07:53.08 | miten | any knows what to do to download apache-ant using bittorrent |
| 07:53.13 | TR0N1C | I know. I figured you guys were more knowledgeable about these kinds of problems than them. |
| 07:53.29 | TR0N1C | Knoppix IS debian. |
| 07:53.37 | streuner | TR0N1C: /msg dpkg knoppix2debian |
| 07:53.39 | cafuego | !nondeb Knoppix |
| 07:53.40 | dpkg | Go to channel #Knoppix for help with Knoppix. If Knoppix was Debian, it would be called Debian and not Knoppix. |
| 07:53.41 | Guerin | TR0N1C: Yeah, we know heaps more about knoppix than the people in #knoppix, that's why we're here |
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| 07:54.04 | holycow | tronic, there is a difference between 'based on debian' and 'debian' |
| 07:54.08 | streuner | TR0N1C: #debian have more users |
| 07:54.08 | TR0N1C | sarcasm? |
| 07:54.14 | g4lt | !info ant |
| 07:54.21 | streuner | s/have/has/ |
| 07:54.26 | Guerin | TR0N1C: No, surely not ... |
| 07:54.28 | mechan0r | do I need to add the gpl notice to every file I write or can I just include a license file in the directory |
| 07:54.34 | g4lt | !essentially debian |
| 07:54.36 | cafuego | Guerin: Postfix kills most .pif.com.vbs mails outright. What gets through is of no concern to me, if users insist on using windows they can buy antivirus software. |
| 07:54.42 | marcst | TR0N1C: the point is, people here likely don't use knoppix, so the likelyhood of getting help is low |
| 07:54.56 | dpkg | ant: (Java based build tool like make), section contrib/devel, is optional. Version: 1.6.1-1 (sid), Packaged size: 4643 kB, Installed size: 7608 kB |
| 07:54.58 | TR0N1C | okay. |
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| 07:55.00 | marcst | even tho it's based on debian etc... |
| 07:55.01 | cafuego | Guerin: Locally we're a full Linux company/household now, so viruses don't interest me at all. |
| 07:55.08 | Guerin | cafuego: Fair enough, too. |
| 07:55.24 | holycow | cafuego, heh |
| 07:55.26 | cafuego | The only box that doesn't run Linux runs MacOS 9 |
| 07:55.28 | dpkg | essentially debian is, like, yeah, xandros, libra, knoppix are all essentially debian, but do you go to a Mistubishi dealership to get help on a Plymouth Champ, or a Volkswagen dealership to get help with a Porsche 914/4? Don't expect help from #debian with your "essentially debian" crap-distribution: either get help from your distributor or switch to full-on Debian. |
| 07:55.28 | mechan0r | do I need to add the gpl notice to every file I write or can I just include a license file in the directory |
| 07:55.29 | gilga | wow. debian uses kde 2.2.2? |
| 07:55.34 | Guerin | cafuego: That'll be me then, amavisd and clamav just take too much ram for my lowly box |
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| 07:55.48 | cafuego | Guerin: woody does, yes. |
| 07:55.52 | cafuego | gilga, even |
| 07:55.59 | cafuego | Guerin: What sort of box it is? |
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| 07:56.10 | gilga | i can get woody 3.2s right? |
| 07:56.11 | streuner | gilga: you can upgrade to a backport (apt-get.org) |
| 07:56.24 | cafuego | gilga: 3.0r2 still has kde 2.2.2 |
| 07:56.40 | Guerin | cafuego: virtual UML box with 108 ram and 64 swap - and a shitload of mysql and php |
| 07:56.44 | gilga | no, i mean, kde 3.2, theres a woody kde3.2 package right? |
| 07:56.48 | cafuego | Guerin: Hmmmyes. |
| 07:57.07 | gilga | alrigght |
| 07:57.09 | Guerin | cafuego: amavisd-new wants 3 processes with about 20MB each, not fun |
| 07:57.10 | cafuego | gilga: Directly from KDE, yes. they're not supposred by debian, though. |
| 07:57.16 | streuner | gilga: yes - read the /topic of #debian-kde how to install it |
| 07:57.28 | gilga | now the only problem is, that my mouse pulls to the bottom right corner, why? |
| 07:57.36 | dli | "USB port busy" for printer, need to replug the USB cable. Anyone knows this? |
| 07:57.52 | holycow | gilga, wrong mouse driver |
| 07:58.00 | cafuego | Guerin: Bit more ram for that sort of stuff here (but I bet i run an even more indecent amount of apache/php virtual servers) - mysql is on another box, though. |
| 07:58.15 | cafuego | holycow: right drives, wrong protocol |
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| 07:58.30 | holycow | what cafuego said :) |
| 07:58.41 | mdh | Guerin: mail scanning chews CPU like nothing else. we've got postfix+amavisd-new+SA+fsav |
| 07:58.46 | cafuego | gilga: What protocol have you set in XF86Config-4 ? |
| 07:58.57 | Guerin | cafuego: yeah, this is like a no-cost thing which server little purpose other than to teach me a bit of *nix and show our families photos |
| 07:59.22 | cafuego | The problem with virus scanners these days, is that they spam whoever the virus claims to be, as opposed to where the virus came from. |
| 07:59.26 | Guerin | mdh: cpu time isn't too dire - it's on a shared dual 2.4 xeon, and throughput is about 100 mails per day |
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| 07:59.57 | mdh | heh, overkill ;) |
| 08:00.06 | cafuego | grep "<VirtualHost" /etc/apache/httpd.conf | wc -l --> 77 |
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| 08:00.35 | Guerin | cafuego: nice :) |
| 08:00.36 | cafuego | Guerin: Hmm, mine is a P3/600 and I get 5000+ mails per day on that box alone. |
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| 08:01.10 | cafuego | and it's spamd also scans mail for the other mail server (1500 per day) |
| 08:01.19 | xbaez | hi someone have been used proftpd ? |
| 08:01.24 | cafuego | xbaez: yep |
| 08:01.28 | Guerin | cafuego: yeah, like I said, CPU time is no drama - it is a shared 2x2.4, but I don't have it all to myself |
| 08:02.09 | cafuego | Guerin: Any chance you can up the ram a bit? or does it use rdram? |
| 08:02.19 | trashmatic | heh... compiling wxwindows has so far taken twice as long as compiling a kernel on my box... wtf |
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| 08:02.27 | cafuego | trashmatic: distcc |
| 08:02.40 | neiljp | this may be an old problem, but how can I get bash colours to work , without starting a new bash shell? |
| 08:02.45 | xbaez | cafuego, i have a problem with proftpd in woody, when restart de daemon appear this message No certificate files found! |
| 08:02.53 | xbaez | cafuego, some idea ? |
| 08:03.01 | Guerin | cafuego: I just upped it from 64+64 due to segfaults ... the ram is the expensive bit, and once I kill clamav and amavis I should have enough |
| 08:03.25 | trashmatic | dpkg wxwindows |
| 08:03.25 | dpkg | methinks wxwindows is a pos |
| 08:03.46 | gilga | i seriously hope I can find a newer deb kde package....3.x at least. Snyone know some linkies? or will aptitude be able to get them? |
| 08:03.51 | trashmatic | the bot is wise |
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| 08:04.14 | aycaramba | xbaez, propably u don't have any certs installed |
| 08:04.20 | Guerin | gilga: /msg dpkg kde |
| 08:05.02 | Caesar | Is it possible to subscribe to a single bug number? I want to follow any correspondence on just a particular bug number. |
| 08:05.06 | gilga | uhhh he isn't telling me anything |
| 08:05.13 | cafuego | xbaez: lynx /usr/share/doc/proftpd-doc/faq.html#AEN783 |
| 08:05.23 | Guerin | gilga: isn't he? Nothing at all? |
| 08:05.32 | g4lt | Caesar it's been a proposal for awhile, but I don't think there's been any action on it |
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| 08:05.56 | Caesar | g4lt: I guess I can subscribe to the whole package via the PTS for the time being... |
| 08:06.04 | gilga | nothing. didn't even open a query |
| 08:06.11 | gilga | might be this damned client |
| 08:06.13 | gilga | :/ |
| 08:06.17 | Guerin | !kde |
| 08:06.20 | gilga | lemme open up in debian |
| 08:06.23 | xbaez | cafuego, thanks |
| 08:06.25 | dpkg | [kde] a desktop enviroment based on the Qt toolkit. The latest stable release appears to be 3.2.1. See http://www.kde.org for release news and other details. for woody check out http://www.apt-get.org/ |
| 08:06.28 | xbaez | aycaramba, thanks |
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| 08:07.18 | cafuego | I think I'm going to turn this PPC into an apache2 ipv6 vhost testbox. |
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| 08:07.46 | trashmatic | aaaaaaaaand the compile bombs. from debian source, no less |
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| 08:07.51 | lyndon | i am trying to make CpuFreq work... But when I try to conf CpuFreq, it tells me to "enable a CpuFreq driver in your kernel"... How do I enable that in my kernel? |
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| 08:08.28 | Guerin | lyndon: compile one with support, or find someone else's |
| 08:09.01 | gilga | :/ |
| 08:09.04 | gilga | yeah oops |
| 08:09.08 | gilga | that was me |
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| 08:10.10 | gilgamesh | much better |
| 08:10.12 | gilgamesh | alright |
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| 08:10.26 | lyndon | vi /etc/modules |
| 08:10.28 | lyndon | whoops |
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| 08:12.20 | cafuego | woot, oops on boot |
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| 08:12.41 | Guerin | cafuego: could be worse |
| 08:12.47 | Guerin | cafuego: could be BSOD |
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| 08:12.52 | cafuego | not on a mac |
| 08:13.05 | Guerin | cafuego: yeah, that really would be bad |
| 08:13.31 | cafuego | I think it's the preempt code |
| 08:13.34 | gilgamesh | how do I use this apt repository? i found the stuff, but, how do I use it? |
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| 08:14.26 | Tzigane | Hi =) Does anyone have any idea what would make the gnome applet hardware-monitor lose its antialiasing? |
| 08:14.31 | Guerin | gilgamesh: add the right line to /etc/apt/cources.list, apt-get update ; apt-get install kde and hope |
| 08:14.48 | lyndon | ok thanks Guerin |
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| 08:14.53 | gilgamesh | why hope? |
| 08:15.00 | cafuego | Hmm, preempt is not set |
| 08:15.05 | Guerin | gilgamesh: or apt-get install kdebase will get you a minimal kde install |
| 08:15.07 | lyndon | lemme reboot my new kernel :) |
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| 08:15.59 | gilgamesh | erm, whats a console editor other than pico? -_- |
| 08:16.10 | holycow | nano |
| 08:16.29 | mdh | gilgamesh: vi |
| 08:16.30 | cafuego | gilgamesh: nano/vi/vim/nvi/elvis/joe/jed/emacs |
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| 08:17.15 | gilgamesh | Guerin: /etc/apt/Cources.list seems empty |
| 08:17.24 | marcst | that should be sources.list |
| 08:17.30 | Guerin | damn sorry |
| 08:17.45 | gilgamesh | ^_^ |
| 08:17.48 | cafuego | Guerin: Run 'apt-setup' |
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| 08:17.58 | cafuego | that should be gilgamesh |
| 08:18.19 | Bazz | hi, has anyone got a clue as to how I might get a Lexmark x75 scanner/printer working in Linux? |
| 08:18.28 | Bazz | I only need to get the scanner working actually |
| 08:18.32 | cuse | Bazz: cups? |
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| 08:18.53 | Bazz | cuse: will cups do me any good with the scanner? |
| 08:19.03 | cuse | Bazz: no only printing |
| 08:19.07 | marcst | Bazz: see if sane supports it? |
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| 08:19.19 | Bazz | marcst: what is sane? |
| 08:19.35 | cuse | Bazz: apt-cache show sane |
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| 08:24.03 | gilgamesh | :/ |
| 08:24.16 | gilgamesh | having issues geting apt-get to get from that URL |
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| 08:26.10 | gilgamesh | sorry to be troublesome, but, could someone tell me which sources.list line to use for this: http://www.debian-desktop.org/pub/linux/debian/kde3.2/dists/sarge/main/binary-i386/ ????? |
| 08:27.24 | dyl | terinal emulator? |
| 08:27.32 | dyl | doh |
| 08:27.53 | gilgamesh | dyl: ? any thoughts on this? |
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| 08:28.16 | marcst | deb http://..../kde3.2/dists/ sarge main |
| 08:28.20 | marcst | i think |
| 08:28.36 | Guerin | gilgamesh: you're using sarge? |
| 08:28.53 | gilgamesh | dunnoes :P |
| 08:29.02 | marcst | that's a good point |
| 08:29.20 | gilgamesh | i must be an idiot. Sorry, former slack user here. |
| 08:29.29 | Guerin | gilgamesh: check :) |
| 08:29.33 | marcst | sarge has kde 3.2 |
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| 08:30.39 | gilgamesh | same error |
| 08:30.41 | gilgamesh | :( |
| 08:30.54 | gilgamesh | i just want kde3 :P lets try again |
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| 08:33.06 | jingo | hi all |
| 08:33.14 | gilgamesh | alright done |
| 08:33.32 | gilgamesh | how do I tell apt-get to get kde*? apt-get install kde* ? |
| 08:34.03 | g4lt | gilgamesh apt-get install kde |
| 08:34.09 | gilgamesh | ok |
| 08:34.19 | gilgamesh | will this work for sure? or might this crash and burn? |
| 08:34.24 | holycow | gilgamesh, #debian-kde has all the instructions in their topic |
| 08:34.31 | gilgamesh | ok |
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| 08:34.59 | gilgamesh | ill remain here as the user gilga in case I mess this up |
| 08:35.04 | gilgamesh | here we go: leaving X |
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| 08:36.55 | _id | re |
| 08:37.25 | xerophyte | Does anybody use snort here if so is it good block with flexresp or snortsam, just wondering what is the different between flexresp and snortsam .. which method is good? |
| 08:37.28 | gilga | how do you get apt to list all packages available? |
| 08:37.53 | marcst | you use aptitude? :) |
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| 08:40.05 | RaNdom_ | gilga, you can read http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/index.en.html |
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| 08:40.55 | tarzeau | Justin: i've booted my ultra2 to compile+test supertux on, i'll check the latest gnustep stuff too... |
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| 08:42.40 | gilga | alright even thought the apt-get.org repository says there is kde 3.1.4. when I do apt-get install kde (after updating etc) it still says kde is installed as the newest version. why? |
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| 08:44.02 | flex__ | How can I copy an email account from Evolution ? I have copy Evolution directory from /home/user , but .. |
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| 08:44.27 | gilga | anyone know? |
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| 08:44.50 | matteorox | some problem compiling kernel 2.6.5 |
| 08:44.52 | Guerin | gilga: apt-cache show kde |
| 08:44.55 | matteorox | first question: have i to create xxx.img? how? |
| 08:45.23 | gilga | Guerin: now what? shall I gre pfor anything? |
| 08:45.35 | Guerin | gilga: read it |
| 08:45.52 | gilga | it says kde3 stuff. |
| 08:46.19 | gilga | and non-kde3 stuff as well |
| 08:46.24 | z|bandito | http://semacode.org/about/applications.html |
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| 08:46.28 | Guerin | gilga: read it, it'll tell you about all the possible available kde packages there |
| 08:46.46 | gilga | ok, can I select those specific packages? |
| 08:46.49 | Guerin | gilga: grepping won't help, if there's too much output, pipe it into less |
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| 08:47.11 | Guerin | gilga: apt should get the most recent automatically |
| 08:47.43 | gilga | it doesn't seem to... it says kde is up to date, yet, the kds installed is 2.2.2 |
| 08:48.04 | romkillah | I realise most of u dudes think its crap, but I need a little help to kick knoppix off before i modify it a little |
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| 08:48.30 | romkillah | my drives aren't writeable |
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| 08:48.35 | gilga | for instance that apt-cache thing shows both kdebase and kdebase3.... etcetera |
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| 08:48.46 | romkillah | except for the root partition |
| 08:49.19 | Guerin | gilga: sorry, talking to my mum and sister, be with you in several hours :) |
| 08:49.29 | Guerin | gilga: mother's day phone calls, y'know |
| 08:49.30 | gilga | :( |
| 08:49.35 | gilga | ok |
| 08:49.47 | gilga | its 5 a mhere and I just want to fix this thing |
| 08:49.53 | gilga | 5 am* |
| 08:50.32 | sway_ | im sshing into a macine and wanna use pine there.. its saying terminal type "Eterm" is unknown ...? |
| 08:50.49 | gilga | wait, is there a way to completely clear the apt-get package lists? then just add the kde3 mirror? |
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| 08:51.58 | sway_ | gilga: just comment them out in sources.list? |
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| 08:52.22 | gilga | already diid but they are still in apt-cache show kde.... |
| 08:52.27 | sway_ | oh |
| 08:52.39 | RaNdom_ | gilga, apt-get update again |
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| 08:52.58 | gilga | done |
| 08:53.09 | cyberyo | io |
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| 08:53.21 | gilga | still says kde is up to date. |
| 08:53.32 | Justin | tarzeau: ok:) |
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| 08:53.50 | priest- | how do i add a program in the rc-files so it starts exactly -last-? |
| 08:54.01 | aycaramba | gilga, maybe your new kde apt-repository is faulty |
| 08:54.06 | Justin | priest-: why? |
| 08:54.42 | priest- | Justin: i have a laptop vid pccard-network, and bind is starting berfore the pccard, and it must start after |
| 08:54.44 | gilga | ill try another |
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| 08:54.53 | mechan0r | does debian's gnome2.6 still depnd on acme? |
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| 08:55.12 | mechan0r | alioth version doesn't |
| 08:55.37 | gilga | anyone know of a tested and working kde3 repository? |
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| 08:56.10 | Orlino | I can't remover dir even with rm -df as root, any hints? |
| 08:56.27 | aycaramba | gilga, take the ones from kde.org |
| 08:56.28 | priest- | Orlino: -r? |
| 08:56.44 | gilga | will they work with woody? |
| 08:57.28 | Orlino | priest-: even if its empty, will not unlink it says |
| 08:57.38 | priest- | i'm new to debian..isn't there any file like rc.local, like it is to other distro? |
| 08:57.49 | Justin | priest-: then start it from /etc/network/interfaces |
| 08:57.50 | mechan0r | rc.local no |
| 08:57.52 | aycaramba | gilga, they have woody versions |
| 08:58.06 | aycaramba | gilga, make sure u pick the right one |
| 08:58.17 | gilga | aycaramba: can't seem to find any deb ones.... |
| 08:58.17 | mechan0r | it's in /etc/default I think |
| 08:58.24 | g4lt | !rc.local |
| 08:58.24 | dpkg | i guess rc.local is the boot script for BSD/slackware/redhat systems but is considered to be a hack for lazy people. Use the sysvinit method via update-rc.d, or read /etc/init.d/README or "man update-rc.d", or try "rcconf", or /etc/rc.boot/ directory, /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh file and /etc/init.d/skeleton template |
| 08:58.58 | gilga | aycaramba: in the downloads page there are no deb ones |
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| 08:59.11 | priest- | Justin: thanks,,i'll try that |
| 08:59.12 | Orlino | priest-it stuffed, rm -d will not remove a dir |
| 08:59.34 | aycaramba | gilga, which version of kde do u want ? |
| 08:59.43 | Justin | !tell Orlino about errors |
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| 08:59.58 | gilga | 3.anything |
| 09:00.02 | priest- | which kernels are you guys using in here? |
| 09:00.08 | mechan0r | rm -r will remove a dir |
| 09:00.12 | gilga | newer=better |
| 09:00.14 | mechan0r | 2.6.5 ppc |
| 09:00.20 | aycaramba | priest-, only on ;-) |
| 09:00.28 | aycaramba | s/on/one/ |
| 09:00.32 | jochen | 2.6.6-rc1 alpha |
| 09:00.46 | mechan0r | how's alpha compare to ppc |
| 09:00.53 | Orlino | ok rm -r works |
| 09:00.57 | Orlino | rm -d does not |
| 09:01.07 | mechan0r | rm -d only removes empties |
| 09:01.18 | Orlino | not for me |
| 09:01.18 | priest- | aycaramba: i guess together you are using more than one :p |
| 09:01.19 | gilga | aycaramba: find it? i don't see any |
| 09:01.30 | jochen | works mostly OK :-) |
| 09:01.38 | aycaramba | priest-, ;-) |
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| 09:02.00 | aycaramba | gilga, which version are u looking for ? 3.1 ? |
| 09:02.01 | jochen | i never tried Debian on ppc (rs6000) though. |
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| 09:02.20 | priest- | is there any point to use an old like 2.2.x to have a more secure kernel? |
| 09:02.26 | gilga | sure. anything that is at least 3.0.... 3.1.4 is good. |
| 09:02.29 | aycaramba | priest-, i am using 2.6.5 on i386 |
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| 09:02.37 | Orlino | it should, anyway rm -r works if empty and not empty |
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| 09:03.21 | Orlino | Justin: its solved thanx dude |
| 09:03.22 | pfefferkeks | hi, kann mir wer von euch sagen wie ich es schaffe mit opera java applets zu laden? |
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| 09:03.44 | Justin | Orlino: thanks for being as vague as always. |
| 09:03.44 | Orlino | mechan0r: yeah cool thanx |
| 09:03.55 | Orlino | no probs :) |
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| 09:04.05 | majli | Hi, I have problem with cron and dhcp. In crontab -e (under root) I have line: 0,15,30,45 * * * * /root/bin/update_dhcp 2>&1 >/dev/null and update_dhcp contains: /etc/init.d/dhcp restart 2>&1 >/dev/null Script runs ok from crontab, but dhcp not update information after restart (before restart there is copied dhcpd.conf to /etc) and still has old information :( Any idea what's wrong ? |
| 09:04.16 | Orlino | was about to give more details, but solved it quick |
| 09:04.41 | aycaramba | gilga, "deb http://download.kde.org/stable/3.1.5/Debian stable main" |
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| 09:05.07 | g4lt | aycaramba he's running sarge... |
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| 09:05.26 | aycaramba | g4lt, somebody should have told that to me ;-) |
| 09:05.29 | aycaramba | thanks |
| 09:05.33 | g4lt | gilga since you're running sarge, apt-cache show kde |
| 09:05.54 | gilga | woody |
| 09:05.57 | aycaramba | gilga, paste your sources.list into flood |
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| 09:06.38 | aycaramba | gilga, woody or sarge ? |
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| 09:06.54 | priest- | can i add local computers to the dns thru bind? or is it another program to do this? |
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| 09:08.54 | g4lt | priest- if it's just a single host you want to know the mapping, use /etc/hosts |
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| 09:09.34 | priest- | g4lt: i want it in the dns? so i can add all the local computers in it |
| 09:09.41 | gilga | ok |
| 09:09.47 | gilga | 1 sec |
| 09:09.53 | g4lt | priest- so you want the mapping to be global? |
| 09:10.09 | sime_ | hrm, can someone help me with this libstdc++ error: ./j2eesdk-1_4-linux.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 09:10.11 | gilga | I csn't paste into #flood because this is not the deb system |
| 09:10.12 | priest- | g4lt: hmm..not on the internet :) but "global" in the lan |
| 09:10.45 | g4lt | priest- then add it into the zone files of your local DNS, yes |
| 09:10.45 | priest- | g4lt: i want a dns-lookup for my local computers trhu the dns |
| 09:10.45 | gilga | aycaramba: i used the kde.org one, same outcome... kde is up to date. |
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| 09:11.06 | aycaramba | gilga, are u using woody or sarge ? |
| 09:11.10 | gilga | woody |
| 09:11.12 | gilga | lol |
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| 09:11.20 | gilga | i keep saying woody |
| 09:11.23 | gilga | right? |
| 09:11.24 | priest- | g4lt: just write the hostname and the ip in there? |
| 09:11.30 | gilga | or did I mess something up/ |
| 09:11.32 | gilga | ? |
| 09:11.34 | aycaramba | gilga, so the one on kde.org are correct |
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| 09:12.00 | gilga | well, it says it is already up to date and wont download the kde3 packages |
| 09:12.03 | aycaramba | gilga, can't u ssh to the debian machine and copy /etc/apt/sorces.list to flood then ? |
| 09:12.39 | gilga | this is a winbox but lemme putty it |
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| 09:13.02 | FarrisG | can anybody help me get X/gnome working on a gateway laptop with a Radeon M9? |
| 09:13.21 | Guerin | !tell FarrisG about set up x |
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| 09:13.57 | Guerin | gilga: you can get a irc client for console as well |
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| 09:14.33 | gilga | suhc as irssi |
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| 09:14.37 | rocky_10_balboa | hi all |
| 09:14.59 | Guerin | gilga: yeah, but as I don't use it, I don't know how you'd paste from it - i am sure it's possible, though |
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| 09:15.10 | rocky_10_balboa | exist a way to port a fedora machine to debian, without reinstall anything? |
| 09:15.13 | SiW | I have just installed a distro based on debian. Now, to install something, is all I need to do apt-get install {programme}, or is there a step before this? |
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| 09:15.30 | gilga | alright if this one doesn't work I am gonna uninstall kde and try it that way |
| 09:15.30 | Guerin | SiW: try it ans dee |
| 09:15.33 | Guerin | and see |
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| 09:15.44 | wathek | hello |
| 09:15.49 | wathek | some one can help me please |
| 09:15.58 | streuner | ask |
| 09:15.59 | SiW | Guerin: well, I can't, I installed it on someone elses computer, and now have to tell them how to install stuff |
| 09:16.00 | Guerin | !tell wathek about ask |
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| 09:16.32 | Guerin | SiW: you installed something on someone else's computer, yet you haven't the faintest idea how to use it? WTF?? |
| 09:16.40 | Guerin | SiW: Tell them to try |
| 09:16.51 | SiW | okay |
| 09:17.03 | Bazz | hi can anyone help me set up a scanner |
| 09:17.10 | Bazz | I checked the sane website |
| 09:17.21 | Bazz | and it says that my scanner a Lexmark 75 is not supported |
| 09:17.30 | tempo | i am trying to setup thin clients. i have just installed kde3.2 and conf.it to listen to port 177. i also dpkg-reconfigured kdm to be the default login manager. when i try to 'startx' i get error msgs - giving up. xinit: No such file or directory (errno 2): unable to connect to X server xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error |
| 09:17.35 | Bazz | any ideas on how I can get this working? |
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| 09:17.43 | streuner | Bazz: so what do you expected then? |
| 09:17.48 | hefty | does anyone have the NEC ND-2500A DVD-Burner? |
| 09:17.50 | Guerin | Bazz: If sane doesn't support it, then no |
| 09:17.50 | _id | Bazz, consult google |
| 09:18.09 | gilga | here it comes in #flood |
| 09:18.18 | streuner | s/expected/expect/ |
| 09:18.21 | priest- | Justin: it didn't work to put it in the /etc/network/interface file |
| 09:18.26 | Bazz | _id: I've been trying to consult google/linux |
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| 09:18.32 | Bazz | _id: not much there |
| 09:18.40 | gilga | it is in #flood now |
| 09:18.45 | streuner | Bazz: USB? |
| 09:18.51 | _id | Bazz, then your chances are low to get it working |
| 09:19.05 | Guerin | gilga: that looks correct, but why do you have security updates off? |
| 09:19.05 | Bazz | streuner: yes its a usb device |
| 09:19.36 | gilga | i uncommented everything to make sure they wouldn't interfere with the kde3 install |
| 09:19.42 | gilga | but it did anyways |
| 09:19.49 | DigitAlex | hello guys |
| 09:20.05 | Guerin | gilga: you in the US? |
| 09:20.10 | gilga | Canada |
| 09:20.14 | gilga | why? |
| 09:20.21 | aycaramba | gilga, what does "dpkg -l|grep kde" give u ? |
| 09:20.47 | gilga | kde2.2.2 crap |
| 09:20.50 | Guerin | gilga: Ok, no drama |
| 09:21.11 | Guerin | gilga: back on the phone again, sorry :( |
| 09:21.25 | giorgian | hi all. if i install kernel-source-2.6.5 and compile it as is, will i get the same kernel packages then that in the kernel-image-2.6.5? |
| 09:21.40 | DigitAlex | Is it possible to get some little help about the 2.6 kernel upgrade on woody, i've gor a "VFS: Cannot open root device" message after i reboot ... please ? |
| 09:21.46 | gilga | just 2.2.2 nothing else really. well do you think that the kde 2.2.2 uninstall is a good idea? if nothing it can always be reinstalled... |
| 09:21.57 | streuner | DigitAlex: custom kernel? |
| 09:22.01 | DigitAlex | no |
| 09:22.04 | aycaramba | gilga, and u did "apt-get update" ? |
| 09:22.10 | gilga | many times |
| 09:22.13 | DigitAlex | i just wanted to upgrade to 2.6 and get the CIFS support |
| 09:22.21 | aycaramba | gilga, and it finished without errors ? |
| 09:22.29 | streuner | DigitAlex: what does 'dpkg -l libc6' say? |
| 09:22.48 | gilga | no errors |
| 09:22.50 | DigitAlex | it's ok, i upgraded all needed packages before :) |
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| 09:23.01 | gilga | aycaramba look in query |
| 09:23.13 | DigitAlex | i actually followed this howto > http://www.desktop-linux.net/debkernel.htm |
| 09:23.26 | DigitAlex | all is absolutely fine until i reboot |
| 09:23.30 | streuner | DigitAlex: so its a custom kernel? |
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| 09:23.51 | FarrisG | Ok, I've done everything I should have done do get X working, but it won't start |
| 09:23.52 | DigitAlex | well it's not a DEB package i downloaded, nope, i compiled it myself right |
| 09:24.08 | streuner | DigitAlex: ok |
| 09:24.10 | FarrisG | XIO: fatal IO error 104 |
| 09:24.19 | FarrisG | "no screens found" |
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| 09:24.27 | g4lt | DigitAlex you got yourself into the jam, you can get yourself out |
| 09:24.30 | streuner | DigitAlex: SCSI? |
| 09:24.31 | DigitAlex | is there any place i can get the precompiled kernel 2.6 deb package WITH CIFS |
| 09:24.39 | DigitAlex | no |
| 09:24.39 | gilga | aycaramba didju check out the query window? |
| 09:24.45 | DigitAlex | nothing special |
| 09:24.49 | DigitAlex | no SATA, no SCSI |
| 09:24.51 | DigitAlex | nothing |
| 09:25.13 | aycaramba | gilga, query ? |
| 09:25.16 | streuner | DigitAlex: what do you get with 'grep DEVFS your_config'? |
| 09:25.23 | gilga | err nm |
| 09:25.36 | gilga | aycaramba would you care to ssh in and take alook around? |
| 09:25.50 | aycaramba | gilga, yes |
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| 09:25.58 | DigitAlex | i'm not very very good at linux but well i found out that i needed CIFS to be able to mount windows shares on my debian box on boot |
| 09:26.04 | DigitAlex | is that tru ? |
| 09:26.10 | DigitAlex | thats actually all i want |
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| 09:26.27 | gilga | aycaramba fammiliar with IRC? |
| 09:26.44 | streuner | DigitAlex: every official debian kernel is able to use SMB |
| 09:26.44 | gilga | aycaramba check the query window, the provste message window.... you know? |
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| 09:27.07 | aycaramba | gilga, i know i answered there several times, didn't u get my response ? |
| 09:27.19 | DigitAlex | streuner hmm i have woody so does the 2.2.2 support on boot mounting of windows shares ? |
| 09:27.21 | gilga | no but ill assume you can see it |
| 09:27.28 | aycaramba | gilga, simply post the ip etc. in the query window, i'll get it |
| 09:27.54 | streuner | DigitAlex: what do you mean with 2.2.2? KDE? |
| 09:27.58 | aycaramba | gilga, and the ip ? |
| 09:28.11 | DigitAlex | nope |
| 09:28.19 | aycaramba | gilga, very strange so i'll keep answering here |
| 09:28.25 | DigitAlex | by default, in woody, i think you get that kernel version don't u |
| 09:28.31 | aycaramba | gilga, on my way |
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| 09:28.49 | streuner | DigitAlex: woody has 2.2.20 and 2.4.18 |
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| 09:28.59 | streuner | as kernel versions |
| 09:29.07 | DigitAlex | ye, 2.2.20 i meant sorry |
| 09:29.10 | aycaramba | gilga, give me a moment to figure things out |
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| 09:29.27 | streuner | DigitAlex: what does 'dpkg -l libc6' say? |
| 09:29.33 | DigitAlex | so if i get the precompiled 2.6 kernel DEB i will be able to mount win shares through fstab ? |
| 09:29.52 | streuner | DigitAlex: that does NOT work so. |
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| 09:30.08 | DigitAlex | hùù |
| 09:30.09 | DigitAlex | hm |
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| 09:30.21 | DigitAlex | i dont know a lot about that but thats what I read online |
| 09:30.24 | ploum | Hi |
| 09:30.37 | streuner | Can you answer the questions? |
| 09:30.40 | DigitAlex | ye ye |
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| 09:30.58 | dindin | hi |
| 09:31.10 | DigitAlex | libc version 2.3.2.ds1-12 |
| 09:31.11 | ploum | I cannot log onto my woody -cyrus server, I think it's pam.d/cyrus related. what are the log files I must look at ? |
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| 09:31.34 | streuner | DigitAlex: ok, get an official kernel-image then |
| 09:31.40 | DigitAlex | ok |
| 09:31.49 | streuner | DigitAlex: you are running sid/unstable NOT woody |
| 09:31.55 | DigitAlex | nop |
| 09:32.29 | streuner | DigitAlex: Do NOT annoy me, its early here :-) |
| 09:32.30 | DigitAlex | some web page said to upgrade libc and all to unstable to be able to use kernel 2.6 on woody (as i said i'm no kernel specialist) |
| 09:32.48 | sunyb | why my arrow keys don't work on command line ? |
| 09:32.53 | DigitAlex | ok, i don't mastah, it just looks like i got some wrong info |
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| 09:33.58 | streuner | DigitAlex: In order to run a 2.6.x kernel in woody you have to get a backport of module-init-tools. |
| 09:34.09 | DigitAlex | hmm |
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| 09:34.19 | streuner | DigitAlex: NO need to upgrade libc6 |
| 09:34.30 | DigitAlex | can i open a query for a sec please ? will be easier |
| 09:34.32 | streuner | or gcc |
| 09:34.50 | streuner | keep the convo here in channel, please. |
| 09:34.58 | DigitAlex | ok |
| 09:35.27 | DigitAlex | as i said before, i only need to be able to mount some windows shares everytime my debian box boots, what should i really do for that ? |
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| 09:35.45 | DigitAlex | some places said i should get smb or cifs to do that, is it true ? |
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| 09:36.51 | streuner | DigitAlex: i guess you need SMB support in your kernel, no matter if you use a custom kernel or official kernel (as i said before official kernels support this by default) |
| 09:37.01 | DigitAlex | okay |
| 09:37.07 | tarzeau | Justin: ackk, i have the same problem on ultrasparc |
| 09:37.17 | DigitAlex | so should i upgrade my kernel at all or not finally ? |
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| 09:38.19 | streuner | DigitAlex: grep the config of your 'old' kernel with SMB or just apt-cache search kernel-image-2 |
| 09:39.28 | streuner | DigitAlex: what does your sources.list say? Are the lines wiht stabe/woody or unstable/sid? |
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| 09:39.38 | DigitAlex | stable |
| 09:39.51 | streuner | change those entries to unstable |
| 09:39.58 | streuner | or reinstall |
| 09:40.33 | DigitAlex | it is virtual machines for now so i just got a clean debian to start all over, i think it's better, so now i have a classic clean debian woody |
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| 09:41.29 | DigitAlex | so now my sources.list has the default entry for the debian CD only, it's all new & clean |
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| 09:42.23 | streuner | DigitAlex: well, you have on that box unstable libc6 and thats a unstable/sid box then... |
| 09:42.37 | DigitAlex | no no it was the old one |
| 09:42.42 | DigitAlex | i will check what i have now here |
| 09:42.43 | streuner | no matter what you have in your sources.list now. |
| 09:43.11 | DigitAlex | now i have 2.2.5-6 libc6 version |
| 09:43.20 | simonrvn | instead of an old crufty sid install ;) |
| 09:43.25 | streuner | How come, magic? |
| 09:43.28 | streuner | :-) |
| 09:43.32 | DigitAlex | well i told you |
| 09:43.39 | DigitAlex | all that are virtual PCs |
| 09:43.49 | DigitAlex | so i took a clean debian woody install image back |
| 09:43.56 | DigitAlex | so i start it all over from the beginning lol |
| 09:44.00 | DigitAlex | it's easier |
| 09:44.10 | DigitAlex | it's as if i just finished installing that from the cd |
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| 09:44.46 | knoppix | Hi folks", I'v a problem.... I install Slackware 9.1, and choose to instal lilo to MBR on disk which contains mz Windows XP, Now I can't boot XP and Slack boot onlz in konsole, what to do? |
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| 09:45.09 | streuner | knoppix: /topic |
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| 09:46.00 | knoppix | Sorry z=y.:-) |
| 09:46.03 | streuner | knoppix: install debian and we can help you |
| 09:46.39 | DigitAlex | streuner : i have a 2.2.20 kernel now, how to check for smb support ? where is the config file for that kernel located so i can grep fro SMB |
| 09:47.04 | simonrvn | knoppix: /msg dpkg knoppix2debian teehee |
| 09:47.24 | streuner | DigitAlex: grep SMB /boot/config-2.2.20 or such |
| 09:47.42 | DigitAlex | ok |
| 09:48.03 | DigitAlex | nothing :s |
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| 09:48.25 | streuner | DigitAlex: so /msg dpkg real kernel |
| 09:48.33 | knoppix | nn, I haven't it sorry, Im BFU, so some config is hard to me, and must be deeplz explain.:-) |
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| 09:49.23 | DigitAlex | streuner what do u mean |
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| 09:49.26 | knoppix | Where may I to scribe that? grep SMB /boot/config-2.2.20 |
| 09:49.33 | DigitAlex | sorry it's the morning here also :s |
| 09:49.33 | simonrvn | knoppix: you type '/msg dpkg knoppix2debian' in your irc client (no quotes) |
| 09:50.28 | streuner | DigitAlex: if you using woody/stable upgrade to 2.4.18-(CPU-type) |
| 09:50.40 | DigitAlex | ok |
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| 09:52.09 | DigitAlex | streuner : plz don't kill me but how do i do that ? what deb files do i need to get from apt ? |
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| 09:52.42 | streuner | DigitAlex: apt-cache search kernel-image-2.4.18 |
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| 09:53.23 | Piru | uh hmm. smartd reports Device: /dev/hda, SMART Usage Attribute: 194 Temperature_Celsius changed from 80 to 81 ... yet smartctl says 50. did I miss something? |
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| 09:54.58 | mandi | 80 celsius? holy crap |
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| 09:55.45 | Piru | mandi, well, it is really 50, not 80 |
| 09:56.15 | Piru | mandi, what puzzles me is why smartd thinks it's 80, when smartctl says 50 ;-) |
| 09:56.29 | anlmat | What do you use deborphan for? |
| 09:56.31 | giorgian | is it ok, to compile kernel modules with gcc3.3? |
| 09:56.42 | streuner | !deborphan |
| 09:56.43 | dpkg | somebody said deborphan was a package that will tell you what library packages you have installed that nothing's using. If you want remove all them use 'deborphan | xargs apt-get remove --purge' |
| 09:56.50 | mandi | Piru, even 50 is hot |
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| 09:56.59 | mandi | Piru, get a cooling fan |
| 09:57.12 | anlmat | streuner |
| 09:57.16 | anlmat | streuner: Thanks! |
| 09:57.23 | streuner | np |
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| 09:57.47 | Piru | I don't like fans :) |
| 09:58.13 | Piru | in fact there are none, just PSU fan (hacked it for lower rpm too) |
| 09:58.27 | mandi | your hard drive will fail soon at those temperatures |
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| 09:59.38 | sdschulze | Hi, does anybody know a Debian-independent Free Software developers Internet community? |
| 09:59.52 | xerophyte | i run chkrootkit on my server i got this message from the chkrootkit report but there is no infected files how can avoaid this "You have 35 process hidden for ps command Warning: Possible LKM Trojan installed " |
| 09:59.53 | DigitAlex | streuner : ok, i'm getting kernel-image-2.4.18-386 |
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| 10:00.57 | gilga | what does the apt-get --purge parameter do? |
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| 10:01.18 | Caesar | gilga: When used with remove, does a full purge of the package |
| 10:01.23 | sdschulze | gilga: It removes the config files and the dpkg information. |
| 10:01.29 | mandi | xerophyte, do you run selinux? |
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| 10:01.30 | Caesar | gilga: difference between a remove and a purge is a purge also removes conffiles |
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| 10:01.33 | sdschulze | gilga: As if the package had never been installed. |
| 10:01.40 | mandi | xerophyte, or any security patches? |
| 10:01.48 | aycaramba | gilga, i also removes the configuration for the packages |
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| 10:01.50 | xerophyte | mandi, i run GrSec in medium |
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| 10:01.59 | mandi | xerophyte, grsec is probably hiding the processes, then |
| 10:02.08 | xerophyte | mandi, hmmm |
| 10:02.14 | sdschulze | gilga: A simple remove removes only the binaries and the data. |
| 10:02.20 | mandi | xerophyte, easy way to find out: log in as normal user, run ps xa |
| 10:02.20 | xerophyte | mandi, but i didnt configure the GrSec to hind the process |
| 10:02.25 | mandi | xerophyte, see if it shows any processes |
| 10:02.31 | mandi | or, all of them |
| 10:02.35 | Piru | mandi, don't think so. the specs say it's good while 5 <= temp <= 55 .. and if it goes I'll replace it anyway (it's shitty maxtor :) |
| 10:02.46 | anlmat | I kinda screwed up my debian installation a couple of days ago. I installed gnome 2.6 which is experimental :(, and then I tried to uninstall it to be able to reinstall gnome2.4. My problem is that I keep getting "Depends: gnome-desktop-environment (= 50) but it is not going to be installed" from apt-get install gnome. Is there a way of fixing this(like removing gnome from apt-get or something?)? Or do I have to reinstall d |
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| 10:03.22 | xerophyte | mandi, only shows the process which was for the user |
| 10:03.30 | mandi | xerophyte, that's why |
| 10:03.35 | mandi | Piru, suit yourself |
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| 10:04.13 | xerophyte | mandi, but the chkrootkit run as root when i do ps aux as root i am able to see all the process |
| 10:04.25 | mandi | xerophyte, even kernel threads and init? |
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| 10:05.15 | xerophyte | mandi root 1 0.0 0.0 1516 504 ? S May01 0:04 init [3] |
| 10:05.28 | xerophyte | mandi, yup i have GrSec patch but i dindt have ACL setup |
| 10:06.04 | zimnyx | when execute `locale' i'm getting following message: cannot set c locale: LC_ALL: no such file or dir |
| 10:06.07 | zimnyx | what;s wrong? |
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| 10:06.13 | mandi | it has nothing to do with ACLs |
| 10:06.26 | zimnyx | i have installed locales, and generated them |
| 10:07.30 | xerophyte | mandi, hmmm why am i getting that process hidden when i am root i can see them all |
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| 10:08.58 | DigitAlex | streuner : installed successfully kernel image 2.4.18-386 and booted to it, thats great. grep SMB config returns that SMB is a module and modprobe smbfs works, guess all i need now is to add a line to /etc/modules and a line to fstab to mount my share ? |
| 10:08.58 | mandi | don't ask me, ask grsec and chrootkit |
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| 10:08.58 | h2k | how can i burn cd, when cdrecord can't find any burning devices? |
| 10:09.16 | Caesar | h2k: Well we need to find your burning devices :-) |
| 10:09.26 | Caesar | h2k: What is your burning device? |
| 10:09.43 | h2k | what do you mean "what" |
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| 10:09.54 | Caesar | h2k: SCSI, IDE, USB, Firewire... |
| 10:09.58 | h2k | ide |
| 10:10.00 | xerophyte | h2k, lspci or dmesg | more |
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| 10:10.25 | Caesar | h2k: Do you have the ide-scsi module loaded? What kernel are you running? |
| 10:10.27 | xerophyte | h2k, find your CDRW hardware and load the module |
| 10:10.40 | h2k | 2.4 kernel |
| 10:10.44 | CAiRO | are there already thunderbird 0.6 debian packages? |
| 10:11.20 | Caesar | h2k: Is the ide-scsi module loaded? |
| 10:11.39 | h2k | yes |
| 10:11.45 | h2k | ide-scsi 10416 0 |
| 10:11.48 | Caesar | h2k: What's in /proc/scsi/scsi? |
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| 10:12.04 | ixi-home | hi |
| 10:12.11 | h2k | Host: scsi1 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00 |
| 10:12.11 | h2k | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:12.11 | h2k | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:12.25 | h2k | MATSHITA Model: DMC-LC20?? |
| 10:12.29 | Caesar | h2k: Is that your burner? |
| 10:12.37 | h2k | HP |
| 10:12.52 | Caesar | h2k: Is that your hard drive? |
| 10:12.57 | h2k | no |
| 10:13.03 | Caesar | h2k: Do you have a CDROM drive as well as a burner? |
| 10:13.04 | h2k | damn |
| 10:13.13 | h2k | it's my camera |
| 10:13.16 | ixi-home | I've configured local named for using on intranet. The only question is - Is it a good habbit to have /etc/resolv.conf? Currently it doesn't exists, but maybe its not bad idead to make one? |
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| 10:13.24 | xerophyte | CAiRO, i use sid .. only Version: 0.5-4 |
| 10:13.26 | h2k | Caesar, yes |
| 10:13.38 | Caesar | ixi-home: Point your resolv.conf at localhost |
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| 10:13.56 | Caesar | h2k: So all that's mentioned in /proc/scsi/scsi is your camera? |
| 10:14.02 | h2k | yes |
| 10:14.29 | Caesar | h2k: Paste the output of dmesg | tail in #flood |
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| 10:14.58 | xerophyte | s/get/head/ |
| 10:15.19 | Caesar | ? |
| 10:17.13 | h2k | only messages of my camera crashing ;) |
| 10:17.34 | Caesar | h2k: Something is afoot. Paste the output of an lsmod in #flood as well for me |
| 10:18.37 | ixi-home | Caesar: ok. Btw, back to ppp over eth. I tried to eliminate that error message which is appeared if you use 0.0.0.0 address. Finally I realized that configuring eth in interfaces is bad idea. I added 'init "ifconfig eth1 up"' in /etc/ppp/peers/dsl-provider and everything works fine now. |
| 10:19.43 | Caesar | ixi-home: Yeah, whatever works for you. I don't care about the error, it's ugly, but it doesn't hurt anything, and I run my box headless |
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| 10:21.36 | DigitAlex | streuner : installed successfully kernel image 2.4.18-386 and booted to it, thats great. grep SMB config returns that SMB is a module and modprobe smbfs works, guess all i need now is to add a line to /etc/modules and a line to fstab to mount my share ? |
| 10:21.40 | Caesar | h2k: Everything seems in order there. Dunno what's going on. Sorry |
| 10:22.22 | h2k | hm |
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| 10:23.02 | Loky | hi all, pls tell me how do I release a file in Debian from being locked ? |
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| 10:23.19 | Caesar | Loky: What do you mean by locked? |
| 10:23.27 | Loky | I cannot read the file |
| 10:23.58 | Loky | can`t do nothing with it |
| 10:24.19 | Caesar | Loky: Permissions problem? |
| 10:24.34 | Loky | I guess so, don`t know for sure |
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| 10:24.51 | ixi-home | Loky: can you su? |
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| 10:25.06 | Loky | yes |
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| 10:26.24 | Caesar | Loky: do an ls -l on the file |
| 10:26.37 | Loky | ok |
| 10:27.14 | DigitAlex | hey guys i have a slight problem, i upgraded to 2.4.18 kernel on woody and my eth0 interface is not working any more, i get errors on boot |
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| 10:27.29 | Caesar | DigitAlex: What sort of errors? |
| 10:27.37 | Caesar | DigitAlex: What sort of Ethernet card? |
| 10:27.38 | DigitAlex | cannot be brought up |
| 10:27.42 | Loky | done |
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| 10:27.45 | Loky | what now ? |
| 10:27.50 | Caesar | Loky: Paste it here |
| 10:28.00 | DigitAlex | it worked perfectly in the 2.2.20 kernel after installation |
| 10:28.11 | Loky | one moment |
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| 10:28.25 | Caesar | DigitAlex: You've just upgraded from a 2.2 to a 2.4 kernel, hardly a trivial thing. What sort of NIC? |
| 10:28.46 | Loky | -rw------- 1 root staff 1713 2004-05-09 12:58 ip_hide.tcl |
| 10:28.48 | ixi-home | DigitAlex: probably 2.4.18 has no needed module... Is it bf? |
| 10:29.00 | DigitAlex | Intel 21140 based 10/100 NIC |
| 10:29.04 | DigitAlex | not BF |
| 10:29.07 | Caesar | Loky: And what do you want to do to this file, as what user? |
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| 10:29.12 | DigitAlex | i think at least |
| 10:29.25 | ixi-home | Loky: make 'groups <youruser>' |
| 10:29.28 | Caesar | DigitAlex: Try adding "alias eth0 eepro100" to /etc/modutils/aliases and running update-modules |
| 10:29.35 | DigitAlex | what does exactly bf mean actually |
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| 10:29.55 | Loky | I want to run an eggdrop bot from my machine, and here is this tcl file so the bot stops running because it cannot read the file |
| 10:29.57 | Caesar | DigitAlex: the bootfloppies kernel as opposed to a proper kernel-image package |
| 10:30.03 | DigitAlex | oh ok |
| 10:30.12 | Caesar | Loky: Are you trying to run this bot as your user or as root? |
| 10:30.13 | Zap-W | hi i have knoppix and it aborts with kernel panic |
| 10:30.26 | zeeble | Zap-W #knoppix |
| 10:30.37 | Loky | as my user, becauser the bot isn`t running in root |
| 10:30.48 | Loky | I`m the root also... |
| 10:30.50 | Zap-W | zeeble: why i dont have knoppix |
| 10:30.50 | Caesar | Loky: As root, chown the file to your user |
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| 10:31.08 | zeeble | zap-w what are you talking about? |
| 10:31.10 | Loky | how do I do that ? |
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| 10:31.29 | Caesar | Loky: chown <yourusername> iphide.tcl |
| 10:31.34 | Zap-W | zeeble: what? |
| 10:31.45 | Loky | ok |
| 10:32.02 | Caesar | Loky: I really don't think you should be running a bot if you don't know basic Unix housekeeping commands |
| 10:32.06 | ixi-home | Zap-W: is your question about knoppix? :) |
| 10:32.19 | DigitAlex | Caesar : added, and then i reboot ? if i had another NIC, what alias should I use ? is it a lot dependent on the NIC type ? |
| 10:32.23 | Zap-W | ixi-home: what question was it? |
| 10:32.33 | Weeble | how do I find what package a file came from ? |
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| 10:32.44 | Shadur | Weeble: dpkg -S |
| 10:32.45 | Loky | I know bots, just that I`m new in Unix... I ran bots in windows before |
| 10:32.59 | Shadur | Loky: And you obviously shouldn't have, if you're this clueless. |
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| 10:33.11 | ixi-home | DigitAlex: no, first try: modprobe eepro100 |
| 10:33.16 | Caesar | DigitAlex: Rebooting, or just going "ifdown -a; ifup -a" should fix it. It is dependent on the NIC as to which kernel module you want to load |
| 10:33.17 | Shadur | Loky: Out of curiosity, if windows did what you wanted done, why'd you switch? |
| 10:33.29 | DigitAlex | error : getting interface flags : no such device |
| 10:33.50 | Loky | I didn`t switch, I just wanna familiarise with Unix too |
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| 10:33.58 | Caesar | Loky: Just because you know bots doesn't mean you aren't going to accidently leave yourself wide open to being backdoored via your bot |
| 10:34.07 | Zap-W | does anyone know if there is a config file that tells gdm read /etc/enviroment at boottime? |
| 10:34.27 | Caesar | Loky: http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/rute-home.html |
| 10:34.47 | DigitAlex | modprobe eepro100 fails |
| 10:34.55 | Loky | I guess you have a point Caesar, but I have to learn somehow these things |
| 10:35.06 | Caesar | DigitAlex: Can you paste an lspci in #flood? |
| 10:35.14 | Loky | what`s with this website ? |
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| 10:35.18 | ixi-home | DigitAlex: modprobe e100 |
| 10:35.25 | zeeble | Loky its a very good tutorial |
| 10:35.28 | Caesar | Loky: It'll teach you some Linux skills. |
| 10:35.52 | Loky | hmmm :] |
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| 10:36.18 | Caesar | Loky: I just don't want to see you get burned by running a bot on an OS you know little about |
| 10:36.33 | Loky | okay, I appreciate that |
| 10:36.36 | Loky | thx |
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| 10:36.47 | Weeble | hmm, that didn't help me, okay moving on... I seem to be running ypbind at startup and it takes forver to time out, I don't have any NFS servers, is there a nice way of disabling it ? (otherwise I'll just attack the the rc directory) |
| 10:37.09 | mdh | lalala |
| 10:37.17 | zeeble | Weeble yay, you're teh secodn part of zeeble-weeble |
| 10:37.27 | ixi-home | DigitAlex: tried e100? |
| 10:37.31 | zeeble | Weeble yeah, man update-rc.d and kill it |
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| 10:37.37 | Caesar | ixi-home: Not in 2.4.18 afaik |
| 10:37.49 | DigitAlex | Caesar : Ethernet controller : Digital Equipement Corporation DEChip 21140 |
| 10:37.51 | Weeble | update-rc.d |
| 10:37.52 | Weeble | er |
| 10:37.53 | Weeble | fs |
| 10:38.03 | Caesar | DigitAlex: Well that's not Intel now is it? |
| 10:38.12 | ixi-home | :) |
| 10:38.16 | DigitAlex | can't locate module e100 |
| 10:38.19 | Weeble | silly crossing between windows and unix focus confusing me :( |
| 10:38.23 | mdh | hmm.. weeble and zeeble. names are getting so strange now. |
| 10:38.32 | NuBus | how curious. I think that's the exact one I just popped in one of my machines. |
| 10:38.33 | ixi-home | DigitAlex: thats what Caesar said (not in 2.4.18, I didn't know that) |
| 10:38.40 | zeeble | mdh :] |
| 10:38.59 | DigitAlex | Caesar : it's a virtual PC and that card is a simulated one (it worked perfectly on vanilla woody just befofe !!!) |
| 10:39.03 | Zap-W | what's the button for taking screenshots in X? |
| 10:39.04 | Caesar | DigitAlex: Make a note of the PCI bus position (the first digits in an lspci) and do an lspci -n and tell me the PCI ID |
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| 10:39.43 | Caesar | DigitAlex: Previous kernel probably had the driver compiled into it |
| 10:39.54 | DigitAlex | for the ethernet controller it's 00:0a.0 Class 0200 : 1011:0099 (rev 20) |
| 10:39.58 | DigitAlex | yea i guess |
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| 10:40.00 | Weeble | hmm |
| 10:40.04 | zeeble | zap-w what button? use scrot, or a screenshot applet, gimp or something. or open a terminal and use import to take a screenshot. assuming imagemagick is installed |
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| 10:40.23 | Weeble | I seem to have no man page for update-rc.d, I can see it there in sbin tho |
| 10:40.25 | ixi-home | DigitAlex: modprobe tulip ? |
| 10:40.28 | Zap-W | zeeble: scroll lock? |
| 10:40.40 | mdh | Zap-W: alt+printscreen |
| 10:40.44 | mean_machine | Ive have already include ntfs write support when I compiled the kernel but I cant copy files from debian to my ntfs volume... any suggestions? |
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| 10:40.45 | Zap-W | yea |
| 10:40.50 | mdh | Zap-W: though it depends on what wm you use etc. |
| 10:40.57 | Caesar | DigitAlex: Change that alias entry to tulip, run update-modules again, do the ifdown, ifup thing |
| 10:40.57 | zeeble | gawd |
| 10:41.06 | Zap-W | mdh: i want to take a screenshot from GDM |
| 10:41.12 | streuner | DigitAlex: Can you just boot with the old 2.2.20 kernel and see what it uses? |
| 10:41.51 | zeeble | Weeble then lookup the update-rc.d manpage on teh www. something like update-rc.d -f remove foo |
| 10:41.54 | nijan | hello, i'm configuring proftpd, how can i choose the dafault directory where user log-in? i wont chroot the user (so i can't use defaulroot). |
| 10:42.15 | DigitAlex | ok guys |
| 10:42.21 | DigitAlex | works with tulip now |
| 10:42.24 | Weeble | yeah, looking at it.... isn't this all more effort than just removing the links by hand ? |
| 10:42.27 | DigitAlex | i can ping aother pC in the lAN |
| 10:42.32 | DigitAlex | LAN |
| 10:42.36 | DigitAlex | thanks a whole lot |
| 10:42.39 | Caesar | DigitAlex: Goodo, np |
| 10:43.05 | Weeble | "The script must have been deleted already - update-rc.d checks for this." |
| 10:43.13 | Weeble | I don't want to delete it, just disable it |
| 10:43.24 | Zap-W | does anyone know of a program like dreamweaver ? |
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| 10:43.48 | mdh | Zap-W: hmm.. I dunno if it has a screenshot keybind. you may need to go to a VC, set $DISPLAY and use imagemacgick or whatever |
| 10:43.49 | Isbiten | lo |
| 10:43.57 | Isbiten | Im havining some troubles with samba |
| 10:44.01 | cafuego | Zap-W: The mozilla html editor. |
| 10:44.04 | Isbiten | it won't let me upload or delete anything |
| 10:44.06 | zeeble | zap-w there is none. you can use dreamweaver on linux if you buy crossover office. easiest clones are bluefish, quanta, screem |
| 10:44.10 | cafuego | Zap-W: if you want one for decent coding, sue bluefish. |
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| 10:44.14 | Isbiten | upload = complaints about bad signs |
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| 10:44.22 | sabu | will anything be 'ruined' if I'm using debian woody, and manually compile a new version of samba? |
| 10:44.23 | Isbiten | delete = not enough permission |
| 10:44.23 | Isbiten | this |
| 10:44.27 | Isbiten | is in my homefolder |
| 10:44.30 | cafuego | quanta is a real pos afaic |
| 10:44.31 | ircdevil | hi |
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| 10:44.57 | zeeble | bluefish has a nice logo |
| 10:45.05 | zeeble | cafuego how's teh hole in your tum? |
| 10:45.06 | Zap-W | last time i used bluefish , was a few years back and it was just like opening a TEXT editor.. |
| 10:45.06 | ircdevil | i need help to copy files from a smartmedia card to my hd. i have the card mounted with vfat, but i get: cp: reading `p1010084.jpg': Input/output error |
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| 10:45.31 | zeeble | zap-w still more or less like that. |
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| 10:46.54 | sabu | how can I find out what version of samba I'm using? |
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| 10:47.18 | sabu | and what's the difference between Samba 2.2.9, and Samba 3.0.4? |
| 10:47.19 | asg | sabu: dpkg -l samba-common |
| 10:47.27 | sabu | ty |
| 10:47.41 | asg | sabu: zless /usr/share/doc/samba-common/changelog.gz |
| 10:48.21 | Weeble | samba-common ? not samba ? |
| 10:48.36 | sabu | I haven't installed it yet, just, I have the option to download either, why would the older one still be there? |
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| 10:48.58 | asg | Weeble: either is fine |
| 10:49.20 | Weeble | presumably they should give the same results unless your system is broken ? |
| 10:49.21 | asg | sabu: what debian are you using? |
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| 10:49.34 | sabu | 2.2.20 atm, soon 2.4.something |
| 10:49.35 | ixi-home | sabu: you sure you can install it after downloading? :) |
| 10:49.36 | nijan | hello, i'm configuring proftpd, how can i choose the dafault directory where user log-in? i wont chroot the user (so i can't use defaulroot). |
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| 10:49.57 | sabu | ixi-home: I'm sure I can try ;) |
| 10:49.58 | asg | sabu: not kernel, what debian version |
| 10:50.02 | sabu | oh |
| 10:50.03 | sabu | um |
| 10:50.07 | sabu | woody |
| 10:50.25 | asg | sabu: woody does not come with samba 3.0.4, where did you get it? |
| 10:50.27 | ixi-home | sabu: but dependencies... you know... samba 3 depends on libc6 |
| 10:50.39 | ixi-home | probably |
| 10:50.45 | sabu | asg: I didn't get it, it's on the samba website |
| 10:51.24 | asg | sabu: well, the only version you will be able to get for woody is 2.2.3a-13 (unless you use backports) |
| 10:51.42 | ixi-home | sabu: and 2.2.3a-13 works fine |
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| 10:51.47 | sabu | '* Topic is 'UPGRADE to Samba 2.2.9 or Samba 3.0.4 - these address interaction problems since the MS hotfix from KB282741' |
| 10:51.50 | K9 | hello |
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| 10:51.58 | rich_ | hi |
| 10:52.00 | sabu | I can't access samba from one of my client PCs, due to this hotfix |
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| 10:52.28 | sabu | better off uninstalling the hotfix? |
| 10:52.29 | asg | sabu: file a bug against the woody samba packages and have them backport it (check if this has not already been requested) |
| 10:52.30 | K9 | anyone managed to make vpopmail work with a default domain, so that courier-imap knows about it ? |
| 10:52.51 | sabu | ok |
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| 10:52.57 | Loky | please tell me a GOOD IRC client :] |
| 10:53.02 | asg | Loky: irssi-text |
| 10:53.06 | zeeble | Loky irssi |
| 10:53.07 | rich_ | loky xchat |
| 10:53.16 | asg | sabu: or use an updated sarge/sid backport (/msg dpkg backports) |
| 10:53.19 | ixi-home | Loky: sure irssi-text |
| 10:53.20 | Loky | thx |
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| 10:53.32 | Loky | where do I dl it from ? |
| 10:53.39 | asg | Loky: apt-get install irssi-text |
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| 10:53.42 | Loky | ok |
| 10:53.59 | Loky | thanx |
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| 10:57.30 | sway_ | i just installed apache and am trying to access the default index.html ...when i try http://192.168.1.101/index.html it works ..when i try my actual ip.. http://202.72.166.6/index.html it doesnt ...why? |
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| 10:57.38 | Loky | bye folks |
| 10:58.21 | asg | sway_: is it listening on that 202 ip address? (try netstat -plunt) |
| 10:58.29 | Guerin | sway_: I expect you haven't configured it to listen on that address/port |
| 10:58.50 | sway_ | err...yeh...would that be in the httpd.config ? |
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| 10:58.59 | Guerin | sway_: sure would |
| 10:58.59 | asg | sway_: yes |
| 10:59.04 | sway_ | ah |
| 10:59.06 | sway_ | thanks |
| 11:00.14 | DigitAlex | another question guys please ? i want to use smbfs and when i add a line in fstab but it does not work at all |
| 11:00.35 | DigitAlex | modprobe smbfs works fine though |
| 11:00.35 | asg | DigitAlex: paste the line |
| 11:00.57 | DigitAlex | modprobe smbfs works fine though |
| 11:01.19 | asg | DigitAlex: paste the line you put in /etc/fstab |
| 11:01.39 | DigitAlex | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:02.19 | avu | digitalex: it's password=pass |
| 11:02.20 | asg | DigitAlex: s/pass/password/ |
| 11:02.32 | ircdevil | i need help to copy files from a smartmedia card to my hd. i have the card mounted with vfat, but i get: cp: reading `p1010084.jpg': Input/output error ? |
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| 11:03.03 | ixi-home | sway_: 'Listen' |
| 11:03.04 | asg | ircdevil: maybe a bum card? dunno if fscking might help or not. |
| 11:03.16 | DigitAlex | ye ye password=pass sorry |
| 11:03.25 | sway_ | yeh i found that, thanx ixi-home |
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| 11:03.47 | DigitAlex | <asg> DigitAlex: s/pass/password/ <<< what u mean ? |
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| 11:04.29 | asg | DigitAlex: substitute 'pass' for 'password' (first occurence) |
| 11:04.52 | DigitAlex | yes yes it was a typo |
| 11:04.53 | h2k | what can be the problem that amsn can't type some of my characters (õüäöÕÜÄÖ) |
| 11:04.59 | DigitAlex | i have password=pass in fstab |
| 11:05.07 | asg | DigitAlex: what error occurs then? |
| 11:05.23 | DigitAlex | well |
| 11:05.24 | g4lt | h2k you expect anything going through redmond to work right?! |
| 11:05.25 | DigitAlex | nothing is mounted |
| 11:05.27 | DigitAlex | heh |
| 11:05.42 | asg | DigitAlex: no errors printed to console? nothing in /var/log/kern.log or /var/log/syslog? |
| 11:05.45 | h2k | ? |
| 11:06.05 | DigitAlex | i'll look |
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| 11:06.35 | asg | DigitAlex: if not, try manually mounting (smbmount //server/share /mntpoint -o username=blah) |
| 11:06.59 | DigitAlex | command not found for smbmount |
| 11:07.07 | asg | DigitAlex: apt-get install smbfs |
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| 11:10.51 | g4lt | HTF can yaiLL_Afk join if he's not at the friggin keyboard? |
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| 11:11.03 | FlexMaster | I'd like to copy my account setting (I use Evolution) to another PC,I yet copy /home/user/evolution , but account setting aren't copy |
| 11:11.25 | Isbiten | g4lt: cron job ;) |
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| 11:12.24 | asg | g4lt: preemptive awayness I suspect |
| 11:13.04 | g4lt | asg ahh, so that woult be the response to Bush's preemptive war? ;P |
| 11:13.12 | asg | !qotd8 |
| 11:13.13 | dpkg | "Last time someone listened to a Bush, people wandered in the desert for 40 years." |
| 11:13.26 | Cit | lol |
| 11:13.33 | zeeble | thoreauputic your nick is like ummmm |
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| 11:14.01 | asg | g4lt: :) |
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| 11:14.32 | g4lt | zeeble irony.....detector....overloaded |
| 11:14.43 | asg | g4lt: it even has three nicks all joined to channel |
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| 11:15.05 | g4lt | asg sounds like a one-man cabal ;P |
| 11:15.15 | zeeble | g4lt true. i'd like to dump that nick in the walden pond or something. |
| 11:15.36 | asg | g4lt: starting to look that way, one's away, one's afk, and the other is f8d (wtf that means) |
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| 11:15.56 | asg | !englishlitsmite zeeble |
| 11:16.04 | asg | s/english/american/ |
| 11:16.07 | g4lt | asg faded? |
| 11:16.19 | zeeble | blah |
| 11:16.20 | asg | g4lt: fated? |
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| 11:16.42 | asg | g4lt: fated to be here as well as afk and away too? |
| 11:16.46 | g4lt | asg you're probably correct, but faded sounds funnier ;P |
| 11:16.51 | asg | g4lt: agreed |
| 11:17.04 | arafel | it's amazing how much faster everything suddenly is. |
| 11:17.11 | ixi-home | Sorry for offtopic but samba channel didn't help - anybody knows why XP stations (XP pro sp1) don't want to join to Samba's PDC? |
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| 11:17.21 | arafel | plus I can do disk-related things without watching my network interface grind to a halt. |
| 11:17.31 | asg | g4lt: czar ircing from the nameserver at coolwhip.org? kinky |
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| 11:18.54 | zeeble | wtf |
| 11:20.04 | h2k | is there any securiti repos for sid? |
| 11:20.14 | zeeble | h2k no |
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| 11:20.19 | h2k | ok |
| 11:20.36 | streuner | h2k: the fixes are in the packages itself. |
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| 11:24.29 | guccio | hi allllllllllllllllllllllllllll |
| 11:24.32 | mutante | yo |
| 11:25.28 | zeeble | how much of discount to IBM employees get on buying a t'pad? |
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| 11:26.32 | ixi-d4 | bye |
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| 11:29.42 | mesbaba8 | how can i install mplayer, via apt-get ? |
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| 11:30.14 | Gh0sty | mesbaba8, not |
| 11:30.20 | streuner | !tell mesbaba8 about marillat |
| 11:30.42 | Gh0sty | its not available in the trees, perhaps on some custom resources or something ... |
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| 11:31.41 | yang | how do i setup sound on a notebook? |
| 11:31.54 | mesbaba8 | streuner whats the commands of that bot ? |
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| 11:32.05 | Gh0sty | yang, the same way as on a desktop :) |
| 11:32.17 | streuner | mesbaba8: /msg dpkg help |
| 11:32.23 | SwordFsh | like in rh with setup where can i put an service to start or don`t |
| 11:32.23 | SwordFsh | ? |
| 11:32.27 | rich_ | yang on my fujitsu e-series, it was pretty much just like a desktop. |
| 11:32.34 | yang | yeah how |
| 11:32.59 | Gh0sty | find out about your chipset |
| 11:33.00 | streuner | SwordFsh: /msg dpkg rc.local |
| 11:33.04 | Gh0sty | using lspci |
| 11:33.16 | streuner | SwordFsh: read /etc/init.d/README |
| 11:33.22 | yang | ok |
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| 11:33.36 | Gh0sty | and try a search on goole with your laptop + linux or the chipset + linux |
| 11:33.40 | Gh0sty | google* |
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| 11:33.45 | SwordFsh | streuner: tnx much |
| 11:34.10 | Demosthenes | can anyone comment on what method of fileserving might be most appropriate in a mixed linux, win98, and winxp environment? i was thinking samba for all, or maybe Coda (but i've never used it before, looking for opinions). |
| 11:34.13 | rich_ | yang Well first I found out what the ciposet was, it was a maestro 2e then I installed that module in my kernel and when I booted up there was a /dev/dsp . I use devfs so it got created by devfs I guess. Then I ran a mixer program like aumix and turned the sound up. Then I ran an application like xmms or mplayer to play sound |
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| 11:34.27 | mutante | Demosthenes: plain old ftp ? |
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| 11:35.19 | Demosthenes | mutante: think network filesystems. |
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| 11:36.19 | Stereo | Demosthenes: samba's ok |
| 11:36.24 | zeeble | Demosthenes samba. |
| 11:36.33 | SwordFsh | what is exim ? |
| 11:36.43 | Stereo | SwordFsh: mta |
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| 11:37.08 | mesbaba8 | streuner~ should i restore my old source.list, after installing mplayer ? |
| 11:37.12 | SwordFsh | Stereo: and mta what is ? |
| 11:37.16 | shawarma | What do you people do to avoid getting spam? Spamassassin seems insufficient.. |
| 11:37.27 | aycaramba | SwordFsh, mail transfer agent |
| 11:37.35 | g4lt | Demosthenes Novell has a NFS client for wind'ohs |
| 11:37.39 | streuner | mesbaba8: good question... |
| 11:37.41 | Stereo | mail transfer agent. SMTP server, really |
| 11:37.47 | SwordFsh | atd ? |
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| 11:37.49 | Demosthenes | g4lt: eh, i don't mind samba. |
| 11:38.01 | aycaramba | SwordFsh, google |
| 11:38.06 | SwordFsh | oki :) |
| 11:38.17 | Stereo | shawarma: are you using SA's bayesian mode? Mozilla's bayesian filter is good too |
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| 11:38.25 | streuner | mesbaba8: restore, change it back to the point where you changed it, it wouldn't be hurd to leave it... |
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| 11:38.37 | zeeble | mesbaba8 no. let the entry eb there. so you can upgrade later |
| 11:38.48 | dumitru | hi! I'm trying to install gnome-themes-extras using synaptic, when I try to apply the changes it reports that some packages could not be installed (have unmet dependencies), how could I fix this? thanks! |
| 11:38.52 | shawarma | Stereo: Sure, that still only catches like 20% percent. |
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| 11:39.20 | mesbaba8 | zeeble, streuner, mine main entries was testing, and i changed them to stable too. |
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| 11:40.01 | Stereo | shawarma: apple's mail.app catches most stuff here. |
| 11:40.05 | streuner | mesbaba8: repo of marillat have stable, testing and unstable packages... |
| 11:40.13 | zeeble | mesbaba8 so what? |
| 11:40.17 | alex_ | if I do an apt-get install --download-only ... where is the package downloaded ? |
| 11:40.40 | ninja | /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 11:40.41 | zeeble | alex_ /var/cache/apt/archvie |
| 11:40.42 | mesbaba8 | ill restore all changes. |
| 11:40.43 | zeeble | s |
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| 11:40.50 | alex_ | thanks |
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| 11:40.53 | mesbaba8 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:40.58 | mesbaba8 | wtf? |
| 11:41.26 | aycaramba | mesbaba8 apt-get install libavcodec1 |
| 11:41.29 | streuner | !info libavcodec1 |
| 11:41.49 | mesbaba8 | libavcodec1: Depends: libvorbis0 (>= 1.0rc3-1) but it is not going to be installed |
| 11:42.09 | mesbaba8 | wtf! why doesnt he automaticly do it ? |
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| 11:42.42 | naim | mesbaba8, did u mess around with ur sources.list ?? |
| 11:42.54 | mesbaba8 | naim, yes, |
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| 11:43.22 | mesbaba8 | !tell naim about marillet |
| 11:43.28 | mesbaba8 | i did these changes |
| 11:43.39 | shawarma | Stereo: What's that? |
| 11:43.41 | mesbaba8 | !tell naim about marillat |
| 11:44.20 | zeeble | wtf |
| 11:44.20 | naim | thats what happpens when u do that ... different mirrors have different version #s |
| 11:44.20 | naim | for packages i mean |
| 11:44.25 | mesbaba8 | hmm, i only wanted to install mplayer |
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| 11:45.20 | naim | dont go randomly changing ur sources.list ... |
| 11:45.30 | naim | mesbaba8, apt-get update |
| 11:45.40 | naim | then try agian |
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| 11:45.58 | streuner | mesbaba8: and you are sure you have for the marillat's repo the entry for sarge too? |
| 11:46.22 | naim | nop ... i dont use that mirror |
| 11:46.32 | mesbaba8 | streuner i did exact changes what dpkg told |
| 11:46.35 | g4lt | naim perhaps people would take you more seriously if you used elementary grammar concepts |
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| 11:46.44 | solars | hey, I want to install a gimp plugin but it says: *** The gtk-config script installed by GTK could not be found; ... configure: error: Cannot find GTK: Is gtk-config in path? how can I fix this ? |
| 11:46.46 | naim | ooooopps that wasnt addressed to me |
| 11:46.47 | h2k_ | which kernel is faster (on older, pII & such hardware) 2.4 or 2.6 ? |
| 11:46.50 | g4lt | like spelling YOU'RE correctly |
| 11:47.07 | ninja | mesbaba8: change stable to testing |
| 11:47.26 | asg | h2k_: likely 2.6 but only your own testing can tell you for sure. |
| 11:47.37 | h2k_ | ok |
| 11:47.52 | h2k_ | is smp kinf of _better_ on 2.6? |
| 11:47.58 | h2k_ | kind of* |
| 11:47.58 | naim | g4lt, im a tormented child... too much pain |
| 11:47.58 | mesbaba8 | ninja, i did all. and restore to testing again. |
| 11:48.11 | frevidar | g4lt: as in, spelling YOU'RE like your? |
| 11:48.28 | asg | h2k_: maybe #linux is a better forum for kernel performance |
| 11:48.40 | g4lt | frevidar see, I can't even be bothered to figure out which homonym he actually meant ;) |
| 11:48.56 | Guerin | h2k_: iin my experience, 2.6 is marginally faster, on my p2-233 |
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| 11:49.05 | h2k_ | ok |
| 11:49.09 | Guerin | h2k_: but it's marginal |
| 11:49.34 | streuner | mesbaba8: ok, what does 'dpkg -l libc6' say? |
| 11:49.56 | mesbaba8 | streuner ill try it, after apt-get update ends. |
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| 11:50.53 | mesbaba8 | streuner --- ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-11 |
| 11:51.09 | streuner | mesbaba8: so you run sarge/testing |
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| 11:51.23 | mesbaba8 | yes |
| 11:51.36 | elien | hi. i installed j2sdk and set the path in /etc/profile. when i open a shell as user the path is not set. after executing 'source /etc/profile' the path is correct. what am i doing wrong? |
| 11:51.44 | streuner | mesbaba8: add deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main to your sources.list |
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| 11:51.55 | streuner | mesbaba8: and run 'apt-get update' again. |
| 11:52.04 | mesbaba8 | lol ok thanks |
| 11:52.22 | asg | elien: man bash (read the INVOCATION section) |
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| 11:52.28 | mesbaba8 | apt is tired of being updated |
| 11:52.35 | apt | mesbaba8: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
| 11:52.35 | stormbind | is the gtk thing fixed in sid? |
| 11:53.26 | asg | stormbind: check the bts |
| 11:54.17 | mesbaba8 | streuner thats better thnx |
| 11:56.11 | yang | I can play audio files as root but not as user ; Cant open default sound device |
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| 11:56.29 | mesbaba8 | yang,add your user to audio group |
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| 11:57.19 | elien | ags: thanks was abel to solve my problem after reading it |
| 11:57.36 | zeeble | yang /msg dpkg audi |
| 11:57.39 | zeeble | yang /msg dpkg audio |
| 11:59.25 | yang | mesbaba8: I had to restart X |
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| 12:02.52 | SwordFsh | how can i listen 2 sound in same time ? like kde sounds and xmms |
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| 12:04.25 | tarbaz | hi all; how can i find root password on knoppix 3.2 ? |
| 12:05.05 | h2k | ask #knoppix |
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| 12:05.09 | ninja | there isn't one, iirc. just sudo |
| 12:05.20 | ZEA | root password? ask nowhere. |
| 12:05.56 | rgrep | tarbaz: there isn't one, so ctrl-alt-f1 will get you to a root shell, then use 'passwd' to change it |
| 12:06.06 | tarbaz | h2k : i'm loosing my debian os. i need knoopix root pasword |
| 12:06.19 | ZEA | why did the fonts become so ugly when I upgraded mozilla from 1.2 to 1.6? |
| 12:06.21 | tarbaz | ok many thanks rgrep |
| 12:06.35 | atescha | well, actually there is but it is autoscrambled at boot, right? |
| 12:07.22 | ZEA | now, mozilla is using the same ugly fonts that x-chat does... is this a grafic lib. thing? |
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| 12:09.56 | luxaw | with this noisy channel make me a desire to get out! |
| 12:10.07 | SwordFsh | how can i make to system can play 2 sound in same time ? |
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| 12:10.21 | luxaw | bye2 guys, 'n good luck... |
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| 12:10.34 | h2k | SwordFsh, what are you using, oss / alsa? artsd? |
| 12:10.45 | rgrep | ZEA: did you tell mozilla to use FreeType when you upgraded it? |
| 12:10.47 | SwordFsh | h2k: oss |
| 12:11.03 | h2k | what modules? |
| 12:11.16 | HiSPeed | sword, use a sound daemon.. like artsd or esd |
| 12:12.14 | SwordFsh | HiSPeed: what is better artsd or esd ? |
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| 12:12.50 | ZEA | rgrep: yes, and added the paths in /etc/mozilla/prefs.js (and /usr/lib/.../unix.js to make sure). still other fonts, that I copied from the windows inst. are not available in the preferences |
| 12:13.29 | h2k | SwordFsh, if youre using kde, then artsd is simpler |
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| 12:14.52 | rgrep | ZEA: are your freetype fonts working ok in other applications? |
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| 12:17.16 | ZEA | rgrep: no, they always offer the same limited set of fonts. what grafical API does mozilla and x-chat use? I'm guessing it's the same one. |
| 12:17.18 | SwordFsh | ekix: Malformed line 8 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse) |
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| 12:17.37 | SwordFsh | deb ftp://ftp.iasi.roedu.net/mirrors/backports.org/debian/dists woody |
| 12:17.41 | SwordFsh | what is error ? |
| 12:18.03 | ZEA | SwordFsh: sections are missing? |
| 12:18.24 | ZEA | (main, contrib, non-free) |
| 12:18.44 | SwordFsh | ZEA: ... http://ftp.iasi.roedu.net/mirrors/backports.org/debian/dists/woody/ |
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| 12:20.08 | ninja | anyone use the alsa dmix plugin? |
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| 12:21.29 | Thailand-H | Dear, Every body , i'm from Thailand I want some help . |
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| 12:21.49 | Thailand-H | apt-get install libperl-dev |
| 12:21.51 | Thailand-H | How to start /etc/init.d/apache start |
| 12:21.51 | Thailand-H | automatic when I reboot linux ? |
| 12:21.54 | Thailand-H | And the user was away |
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| 12:22.05 | arafel | 'lo all. I've just tried to build dpkg (apt-get -b source), and I get "could not bind local address" from somewhere, seemingly just after "test -f include/dpkg.h.in". |
| 12:22.13 | Thailand-H | How to start /etc/init.d/apache start |
| 12:22.15 | Thailand-H | automatic when I reboot linux ? |
| 12:22.17 | Thailand-H | And the user was away |
| 12:22.22 | longdouble | Thailand-H: put a link to /etc/init.d/apache in /etc/rc2.d |
| 12:22.38 | arafel | Thailand-H: man update-rc.d |
| 12:22.41 | longdouble | Thailand-H: and it will start automatically when u boot into unlevel 2 |
| 12:22.58 | Thailand-H | wait.. me to try test. |
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| 12:23.11 | arafel | anybody have any ideas regarding the dpkg building? |
| 12:23.22 | sussudio | !sunday |
| 12:23.23 | dpkg | Sunday is the day all freaks swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane. |
| 12:23.38 | arafel | sussudio - thought it was quiet today. |
| 12:23.41 | Thailand-H | What is SXXX for apache ? |
| 12:23.47 | longdouble | arafel: it is there in the new maintainers docs.. |
| 12:24.05 | Thailand-H | What is /etc/rc2.d/ SXXX??? for apache ? |
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| 12:25.05 | longdouble | Thailand-H: S99apache but as arafel told look up update-rc.d |
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| 12:25.36 | inkypinky | I want to move my rootfs to from reiserfs to ext3. Is it poosible to make an image using partimage convert the root partition to ext3 and then restore the image or will partimage only recover to the same file-system |
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| 12:26.24 | Thailand-H | <longdouble> I'm not understand . Could you show me all command with start services apache on Reboot linux ? |
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| 12:26.47 | HiSPeed | sword, use artsd if you re into kde.. well esd should work too with kde.. if you dont have problems like me with too new alsa kernel drivers, use esd.. (which you wont since you re using oss) |
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| 12:27.49 | arafel | aizak - a quick grep of the maint-guide doesn't show anything about "bind local address". I'm having a stupid moment, could you point me at the right section? |
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| 12:28.27 | aizak | Thailand-H: don't get u |
| 12:29.02 | Thailand-H | Hum.. |
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| 12:30.19 | aizak | Thailand-H: ln -s /etc/init.d/apache /etc/rc2.d/S91apache |
| 12:30.26 | aizak | arafel: 1 sec |
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| 12:31.12 | arafel | aizak - well, it works as root, so something's obviously trying to bind to a low port. the bit I don't get is why a build should need a port... |
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| 12:31.55 | Thailand-H | aizak> What is mean S91 |
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| 12:32.10 | arafel | Thailand-H - the numbers define the order things are started nd killed in |
| 12:32.10 | Thailand-H | I want to open service ssh on reboot linux too. |
| 12:32.17 | arafel | Thailand-H - the higher the number, the later it starts. |
| 12:32.35 | arafel | Thailand-H - really, go read the manpage for update-rc.d |
| 12:33.07 | Thailand-H | thank you sir. |
| 12:33.10 | sil^ | If I'm using a stock Debian kernel, and want to compile a kernel module which is packaged for Debian, how do I do it? Do I still need make-kpkg, even though I'm not actually compiling the kernel itself? |
| 12:33.44 | aizak | arafel: http://debian.planetmirror.com/doc/maint-guide/maint-guide.pdf |
| 12:33.59 | aizak | hth |
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| 12:34.08 | arafel | "undefined symbol: __ti11LinkProcess" ? WTF? |
| 12:34.14 | zophyx | why does debian tezting |
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| 12:34.52 | cahoot | any idea why getty would be respawning to fast ? (running sid) |
| 12:34.55 | rgrep | sil^: do you just want to compile a single module? |
| 12:34.56 | g4lt | zophyx what, you want us to take fedora's word for when something's ready? |
| 12:34.57 | arafel | aizak - I've already got the maint-guide, but I'll go read it more carefully rather than grepping, I guess. :) thanks |
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| 12:35.10 | sil^ | rgrep: yes. |
| 12:35.13 | zophyx | why does debian testing's automake complain about " `automake requires `AM_CONFIG_HEADER', not `AC_CONFIG_HEADER' " |
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| 12:35.57 | g4lt | zophyx prolly because you have the wrong one of autoconf|automake installed |
| 12:36.05 | rgrep | sil^: if it's just for yourself and you're not looking to distribute it then why do you need to build a debian package at all? |
| 12:36.13 | zophyx | i'm doing an upgrade now |
| 12:36.32 | happyNoob | hi @ all |
| 12:36.44 | sil^ | rgrep: hm. mainly because I haven't compiled a kernel or kernel modules with anything *except* make-kpkg for about four years and I've forgotten how. :) |
| 12:36.45 | g4lt | zophyx you shouldn't be making stuff doing a normal upgrade |
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| 12:37.00 | zophyx | oh oh |
| 12:37.04 | happyNoob | short question: where can i download hppa risc netboot images? |
| 12:37.24 | rgrep | sil^: is the module a standard kernel module or do you have 3rd party source code? |
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| 12:37.51 | sil^ | rgrep: it's in a deb, but it's a third-party deb. |
| 12:38.41 | zophyx | i've been upgrading 'kind of ' often |
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| 12:39.05 | rgrep | sil^: i think i've lost you there. so you've got a debian package containing a binary kernel module? is it compiled for your kernel version? |
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| 12:39.32 | arafel | zophyx - but unless you're upgrading using the source packages, it still doesn't usually involve making anything... |
| 12:40.03 | zophyx | i just want to compile programs using the GNU build system |
| 12:40.07 | sil^ | rgrep: There's a debian package containing the source for that module. The third party providing it have also provided packages containing a compiled binary module, but only for 2.4.18 kernels (in about eight different flavours) and I'm running 2.6. |
| 12:40.34 | arafel | zophyx - basically, all the various versions of automake/autoconf are incompatible, because the GNU maintainers are on crack |
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| 12:40.55 | zophyx | oh oh, my vid just went bonkers with sparkly video |
| 12:40.56 | arafel | zophyx - so you need to install all the various versions to even have a chance at making a random configure.in thing work |
| 12:41.07 | sil^ | rgrep: what I'd like to do is install the source deb, and say "make the binary deb" and then install it. What I don't know is exactly how to do that; I've only ever compiled kernel modules with make-kpkg modules_image after compiling a kernel. |
| 12:41.07 | zophyx | a major upgrade crisis |
| 12:41.31 | arafel | sil^ - dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc -[-rfakeroot] |
| 12:41.34 | arafel | or something like that |
| 12:41.38 | rgrep | sil^: oh i get you now. it shouldn't be too big of a deal to compile it as long as you have the kernel-source or kernel-headers packages installed for your kernel version |
| 12:42.10 | sil^ | rgrep: ah! so I can do it just with kernel-headers? I don't need the source? I don't really understand the kernel, you see :) |
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| 12:42.18 | SwordFsh | deb ftp://ftp.iasi.roedu.net/mirrors/backports.org/debian dists woody , whi don`t work ? what missing ? |
| 12:42.20 | sil^ | arafel: in /usr/src/modules/modulename ? |
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| 12:42.50 | rgrep | sil^: you don't need the kernel source as long as you install the kernel-headers package for your kernel. it works nicely like that when you use a stock debian kernel. |
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| 12:43.26 | sil^ | rgrep: nice! (I'm actually using Knoppix, 'cos it's my laptop, but asking "is a knoppix kernel a stock Debian kernel" is a question for another channel :)) |
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| 12:44.05 | zophyx | well. testing's build system is incongruent |
| 12:44.25 | rgrep | sil^: well it doesn't really matter if it's an official debian kernel as long as there's a kernel-headers package available that corresponds exactly with the kernel-image package you have installed. :) |
| 12:44.29 | streuner | SwordFsh: what package do you need? |
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| 12:44.48 | SwordFsh | i whant to install xchat |
| 12:44.50 | humbolt | sombody help me! How does the codepage charset fonts stuff work in debian? why is it so complicated to get euro support + displying right all chars of vfat partitions, ... my XP is an austrian/german version. |
| 12:44.52 | sil^ | rgrep: and I actually *do* the compilation using dpkg-buildpackage as arafel suggested above? |
| 12:45.08 | SwordFsh | and artsd |
| 12:45.43 | humbolt | how can I get debian to be ausrtian/german?? I don't need the language to be german but the charsets! what about unicode?? |
| 12:45.52 | naim | i have a .tar.gz packages to install... where do i put it ?? |
| 12:45.56 | streuner | SwordFsh: for KDE /list #debian-kde and read the URL with wiki |
| 12:46.18 | streuner | SwordFsh: xchat 2? |
| 12:46.53 | rgrep | sil^: i wouldn't know, but you could give it a go. i'd suggest you go into a temporary directory and apt-get the source package and then look for a README file. |
| 12:46.59 | SwordFsh | streuner yes |
| 12:47.06 | sil^ | rgrep: ok, cheers! |
| 12:47.24 | streuner | SwordFsh: for X-Chat try: deb http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/mirrors.evilgeniuses.org.uk/debian/backports/woody gnome2.2/ |
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| 12:47.50 | sil^ | arafel: your dpkg-buildpackage command: do I just run that in /usr/src/modules/modulename and it'll build the appropriate module deb in /usr/src/modules? |
| 12:48.03 | mesbaba8 | can i install java-runtime-environment for mozilla, via apt-get ? |
| 12:48.05 | humbolt | the locales entries don't do the job! I have created I fat32 partition in XP and some files with `?äö ... and I want to see each and every of these characters in my console and my konsole now! |
| 12:48.06 | arafel | sil^: I usually just run it where I've unpackaged the source package |
| 12:48.17 | arafel | sil^: so if that's where you put the source package, try it. :) |
| 12:48.51 | sil^ | arafel: ah, it's in an apt-source, do I normally do apt-get install foo rather than apt-get source foo...suppose I could do either with a source deb :)# |
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| 12:49.02 | Guerin | !tell mesbaba8 about java-plugin |
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| 12:49.25 | r00t_ | r00t@debian:~/stuff/supertuxcvs/supertux$ ./autogen.sh |
| 12:49.25 | r00t_ | aclocal: mk/autoconf/sdl.m4: 11: duplicated macro `AM_PATH_SDL' |
| 12:49.25 | r00t_ | automake: configure.ac: `PACKAGE' not defined in `configure.ac' |
| 12:49.26 | r00t_ | Makefile.am:1: AC_PROG_MAKE_SET must be used in `configure.ac' |
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| 12:49.45 | arafel | sil^: either one, I guess. :) I don't actually play with source packages much... |
| 12:49.49 | r00t_ | r00t@debian:~/stuff/supertuxcvs/supertux$ ./autogen.sh |
| 12:49.49 | r00t_ | aclocal: mk/autoconf/sdl.m4: 11: duplicated macro `AM_PATH_SDL' |
| 12:50.00 | Guerin | r00t_: WTF? |
| 12:50.02 | r00t_ | automake: configure.ac: `PACKAGE' not defined in `configure.ac' |
| 12:50.03 | r00t_ | Makefile.am:1: AC_PROG_MAKE_SET must be used in `configure.ac' |
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| 12:50.12 | r00t_ | automake: configure.ac: AC_ARG_PROGRAM must be used in `configure.ac' |
| 12:50.12 | r00t_ | data/Makefile.am:34: invalid variable `nobase_dist_pkgdata_DATA' |
| 12:50.14 | r00t_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:50.17 | zophyx | uh hem.... debian testing's automake version seems real ancient |
| 12:50.20 | streuner | r00t_: stop flooding the channel. |
| 12:50.31 | r00t_ | streuner i just finished |
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| 12:50.46 | r00t_ | how do i fix that? |
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| 12:51.04 | ixi-deb04 | I'm configuring resolver and seems dont |
| 12:51.11 | arafel | zophyx - theothers are probably referenced by name and number, such as automake1.7 |
| 12:51.11 | ixi-deb04 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:51.13 | streuner | what app do you want compile? |
| 12:51.15 | Croepha_ | why doesn't the debian 'faad' package install the xmms plugin for faad??? |
| 12:51.19 | r00t_ | streuner: how do i fix that? |
| 12:51.24 | streuner | what app do you want compile? |
| 12:51.27 | r00t_ | supertux |
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| 12:51.44 | ixi-deb04 | What is hostname in /etc/hostname - FQDN or just machine name? |
| 12:51.50 | streuner | supertux? |
| 12:51.56 | mesbaba8 | Guerin, it says it is waste of time :) http://java.sun.com/webapps/download/AutoDL?BundleId=9562 is better. |
| 12:52.09 | zophyx | arafel: ok , i should try to specify the version ? |
| 12:52.14 | zophyx | that's cool |
| 12:52.25 | Guerin | ixi-deb04: just box name, but if it is internet-facing, it can be the fqdn as well |
| 12:52.31 | arafel | zophyx - try apt-get install automake1.4 automake1.5 - you get the idea. |
| 12:52.39 | zophyx | thanks :) |
| 12:52.43 | arafel | np |
| 12:52.47 | SwordFsh | i have an modem .. with what program can i make an phone call ? |
| 12:52.51 | Guerin | mesbaba8: no arguments there :) |
| 12:53.04 | arafel | this could all have been avoided if the GNU people maintaining it kept it at least vaguely backwards compatible. |
| 12:53.22 | r00t_ | streuner; http://super-tux.sourceforge.net/welcome.html |
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| 12:54.34 | streuner | r00t_: did you ask #supertux yet? |
| 12:54.42 | ixi-deb04 | Guerin: it is server with its own intranet DNS database. I noticed some services starts slowly so I decided to check cofiguration. hostname returns 'deb05' quickly (the contents of /etc/hostname), but dnsdomainname take almost 10 seconds and returns nothing. |
| 12:54.57 | majli | Hi, I have problem with cron and dhcp. In crontab -e (under root) I have line: 0,15,30,45 * * * * /root/bin/update_dhcp 2>&1 >/dev/null and update_dhcp contains: /etc/init.d/dhcp restart 2>&1 >/dev/null Script runs ok from crontab, but dhcp not update information after restart (before restart there is copied dhcpd.conf to /etc) and still has old information :( Any idea what's wrong ? |
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| 12:55.17 | ribnitz | heyas |
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| 12:56.11 | ixi-deb04 | Guerin: /etc/hosts has only one line: 127.0.0.1 localhost. I just wonder where resolver should take domain name from? Where should I specify it? |
| 12:56.27 | mesbaba8 | Guerin, its actually http://www.java.com/en/download/linux_manual.jsp however they protect hotlinking i think. |
| 12:56.34 | Guerin | ixi-deb04: list as many as you like, separated by spaced |
| 12:56.35 | Guerin | s |
| 12:56.52 | Guerin | 127.0.0.1 localhost boxname1 boxname2 boxname 3 |
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| 12:57.46 | Guerin | mesbaba8: there are a bunch of other places you can get java from too, just not from within debian, due to legal restrictions |
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| 12:58.27 | mesbaba8 | hmm,ic, m$ currently doesnt contain java too, due to same restrictions. |
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| 12:59.24 | Guerin | ixi-deb04: if you want the box to be known as "boxname1" to other boxen on the network, you'll need to put <box.name.1.ip> boxname1 in the /etc/hosts of each computer |
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| 12:59.29 | ixi-deb04 | Guerin: if boxname1 will be just a word (without domain name) then resolver will return '' for domain name... Is it ok? |
| 12:59.56 | Croepha_ | does debian have a package that allowes you to play m4a/mp4 files from xmms??? |
| 13:00.10 | Guerin | ixi-deb04: if it works, it's ok |
| 13:00.13 | ixi-deb04 | Guerin: no, I want each station has its FQDN: ws-foobar.chajjka (my domain) |
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| 13:00.46 | Guerin | ixi-deb04: ah, right, with you now |
| 13:01.01 | Guerin | .chajjka is a .tld? |
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| 13:01.11 | ixi-deb04 | Guerin: what is tld? :) |
| 13:01.13 | streuner | Croepha_: apt-cache search or pdo would tell you |
| 13:01.28 | streuner | !tld |
| 13:01.28 | dpkg | from memory, tld is top level domain. .com, .org, .edu, and so on; also includes the country top-level domains .au, .it, .cx and so on, or see http://www.iana.org/cctld/cctld-whois.htm for a complete listing |
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| 13:01.45 | ixi-deb04 | ah, sure, my own internal doamin :) |
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| 13:02.05 | zophyx | i might not attain an accepatable fusio9n thmy GNU build system before i empty this flask of oaken seasoned spirit |
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| 13:02.19 | Guerin | ixi-deb04: right, so how is each box on the network going to know what the other boxen are called, barring use of a dns tool like bind? |
| 13:03.08 | Guerin | ixi-deb04: one way is to have a common /etc/hosts file, aliasing ip addresses with computer names, so that when you try to look up a computer name, it finds the ip from /etc/hosts |
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| 13:04.21 | zophyx | the ninth of may, 20 oh 4 |
| 13:04.37 | Croepha_ | is there a way to trap any stderr text and send it to a less? |
| 13:04.49 | zophyx | using /etc/hosts for dns lookup is insane |
| 13:05.04 | ixi-deb04 | Guerin: I already configured bind and each station know its and others names. I just want to get 'deb05.chajjka' instead of 10-seconds silence or '' when I do dnsdomainname :) |
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| 13:05.16 | ixi-deb04 | deb05 is the server |
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| 13:06.05 | Crack | can anyone give me a hand configuring my refresh rates? |
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| 13:06.41 | Guerin | ixi-deb04: right, ok, bind is beyond me, I'm sorry - I've never used it |
| 13:06.49 | rgrep | Crack: Have you got the official ones from your monitor manufacturer? |
| 13:07.14 | Guerin | zophyx: small network = ok, large network = not |
| 13:07.23 | Crack | rgrep: i know what it can handle, im sure i can find them if i look though |
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| 13:07.32 | raider_ | hi |
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| 13:08.08 | Guerin | !hi raider |
| 13:08.09 | dpkg | Many greetings, raider, most strange traveller, to this IRCdom of plenty. |
| 13:08.30 | raider_ | somedoy know why when i logout in debian, i dont go to console? it's restar the x !_! sry my english sux |
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| 13:09.04 | ixi-deb04 | Guerin: I think its not bind thing at all since it would be not efficient to ask him about someting (and of course it shouldn't return something when I'm looking for 'deb05' which is just boxname). I guess my qeustion is about hot to configure local resolver... How to specify locally the domain name part for local system. Uh... :) |
| 13:09.13 | zophyx | !hi trollop |
| 13:09.14 | dpkg | Many greetings, trollop, most strange traveller, to this IRCdom of plenty. |
| 13:09.41 | zophyx | dpkg don't call me a trollop |
| 13:09.41 | dpkg | zophyx: I give up, what is it? |
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| 13:09.57 | zophyx | dkpg youi are an imbecile |
| 13:10.06 | zophyx | dkpg you are an imbecile |
| 13:10.31 | ixi-deb04 | Anybody knows that? It must be very simple thing, I just don't want to do something with naming network objects which is not common approved :) |
| 13:10.53 | ploum | anyone can help me with cyrus ? |
| 13:11.16 | raider_ | anybody knows why when i logout in debian, i dont go to console? it's restar the x !_! sry my english sux |
| 13:11.43 | zophyx | anyone been on #linuxwarez recently ? |
| 13:12.04 | zophyx | raider_: is xdm running ? |
| 13:12.14 | raider_ | yes |
| 13:12.25 | zophyx | you need to kill that process |
| 13:12.30 | wOODSHIt | im goin 2 install debian 2morrow from the first ISO CD |
| 13:12.33 | raider_ | but, always? |
| 13:12.39 | wOODSHIt | i cant wait |
| 13:12.48 | wOODSHIt | :D |
| 13:12.49 | majli | Can anybody tell me, where can I set X-cron enviroment ? (PATH I mean) |
| 13:12.51 | zophyx | otherwise it will continuously restart the X login screen |
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| 13:13.41 | Croepha_ | it would be nice if apt only needed a 'diff' from the local version to the newer remote version when upgrading.. that way only have to download what is different beetween the two versions, instead of downloading the entire file... |
| 13:13.50 | zophyx | raider_: or you can use the ctrl-alt-F1 keyboard to get to a linux console |
| 13:14.19 | raider_ | uhm but it is a config problem? and has solution? |
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| 13:16.21 | zophyx | raider_: you can rename or remove /etc/init.d/xdm to stop xdm from ever running at all |
| 13:16.34 | raider_ | ah ok |
| 13:16.37 | raider_ | thx a lot man |
| 13:16.52 | LSorensen | rad: could uninstall xdm, or change /etc/X11/x-display-manager to /bin/false |
| 13:17.18 | raider_ | better remove no? |
| 13:17.27 | LSorensen | raider_: uninstalling is simplest |
| 13:17.57 | Croepha_ | how can i set it up so that when i boot up it automatically logs into a user? |
| 13:18.04 | LSorensen | raider_: then just use startx to get X from a user when you want it |
| 13:18.14 | LSorensen | Croepha_: depends on your display manager |
| 13:18.24 | LSorensen | Croepha_: I believe kdm and gdm have that as an option |
| 13:18.53 | wOODSHIt | c u |
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| 13:18.53 | ixi-deb04 | Can anybody help me with configuring resolver? |
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| 13:19.50 | majli | Where can I set default (global) crontab PATH ? |
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| 13:20.13 | LSorensen | majli: I believe you don't. Use scripts from cron and set path in script as needed. |
| 13:20.26 | majli | LSorensen: ok, thnx |
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| 13:21.13 | LSorensen | majli: Or you can at the top of your crontab perhaps do: PATH=blah |
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| 13:21.33 | LSorensen | majli: man 5 crontab for details |
| 13:21.41 | majli | LSorensen: yes, I did it now ..I'll test it |
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| 13:22.13 | majli | LSorensen: but I wanna did something in global settings of enviroment of crantab |
| 13:22.32 | LSorensen | majli: well no global. only per crontab file |
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| 13:22.46 | majli | LSorensen: clear:) thnx |
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| 13:24.27 | Croepha_ | hey, i am getting alot of errors when i iam trying to compile something, but i cant see them all because my scroll bar wont go that high... i tried useing less but it only cautches the std out stream, how do i pipe the stderr stream ??? |
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| 13:25.06 | rgrep | Croepha_: put 2>&1 just before your | |
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| 13:25.31 | rgrep | Croepha_: that will send stderr to the same place as stdout, i.e. through your pipe |
| 13:25.47 | rgrep | Croepha_: assuming you're using the bash shell that is :) |
| 13:26.11 | X-Ray5 | Hey all, when I do apt-get update; apt-get -f dist-upgrade, after I run through it all I get this error at the end "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" what does it meanh and how can I fix it? |
| 13:26.22 | Croepha_ | rgrep: thanks :) |
| 13:26.29 | LSorensen | X-Ray5: it means look further up to see which package failed. |
| 13:26.30 | JDjoeka | Hi. I'm having the following trouble with debian sid. Since the upgraded I can't execute *anything* anymore as a normal user. When I su from root to a normal user I get "I have no name!@debian:/var/log$" when i change the shell to zsh I get: bash: /usr/bin/zsh: Permission denied |
| 13:26.40 | raider_ | nah, it unistall it, but when i startx, the error start again, dont let me deslogout :( |
| 13:26.41 | JDjoeka | Even when i change it with chsh I get : NO shell. |
| 13:26.47 | JDjoeka | Gdm fails to start at bootup |
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| 13:27.36 | ribnitz | heyas |
| 13:28.18 | LSorensen | JDjoeka: what permissions are on /etc/passwd? |
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| 13:28.29 | ribnitz | whe I try to upgrade my custom 2.4.25 to a prebuilt (debian 2.4.26) that 2.4.26 dies with 'attempted to kill init' (panic) after mounting the ext3-root? |
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| 13:28.48 | JDjoeka | LSorensen: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1021 2004-05-09 15:17 /etc/passwd |
| 13:28.50 | LSorensen | ribnitz: did you enable initrd in your bootloader as you should? |
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| 13:29.18 | _terr1 | I had a program onces that could mount alot of images, .img, .cue/bin, .iso whatsoever like daemon tools for windows just cant remember the name.. any1 have an idea? |
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| 13:30.01 | housetier | _terr1, you mean a loopback device? |
| 13:30.13 | ribnitz | LSorensen: initrd line in grub menu.lst? |
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| 13:31.45 | Isbiten | what do I add for contrib in my sources list? |
| 13:32.01 | Isbiten | "mirro" contrib |
| 13:32.02 | Isbiten | ? |
| 13:32.22 | nkuttler | Isbiten: /msg dpkg sources.list |
| 13:32.22 | LSorensen | ribnitz: yes |
| 13:32.47 | Isbiten | LSorensen: thanks |
| 13:32.56 | Croepha_ | _terr1: there is a kernel module that allows you to mount iso images... |
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| 13:33.26 | ribnitz | LSorensen: initrd (tab-tab) /boot/initrd-img-2.4.26-1-686 (file exists) |
| 13:34.12 | ribnitz | LSorensen: 2.4.25 boots fine with exactly same inird line (only filename changed ofc) |
| 13:34.59 | JDjoeka | debian# su dude |
| 13:34.59 | JDjoeka | No shell |
| 13:34.59 | JDjoeka | debian# id dude |
| 13:34.59 | JDjoeka | uid=1002(dude) gid=1002(dude) groups=1002(dude) |
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| 13:35.17 | LSorensen | ribnitz: well not sure. did you check for bug reports on 2.4.26? |
| 13:35.32 | ribnitz | LSorensen: no. |
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| 13:35.42 | LSorensen | JDjoeka: and permissions on /etc? |
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| 13:36.05 | ribnitz | LSorensen: how painless owuld an upgrade to 2.6.5 be (root is ext3, quite a few fs'es are xfs) |
| 13:36.24 | mbmaster | How do I set eth0 to full-duplex? |
| 13:36.27 | LSorensen | ribnitz: if using testing or unstable, pretty painless for most hardware. |
| 13:36.29 | MikeCamel | ribnitx - shouldn't be too bad at all. |
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| 13:36.54 | MikeCamel | ribnitz - just try an apt-get on the new kernel, should see you right. |
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| 13:37.04 | LSorensen | ribnitz: I have no problems with the debian 2.6.5 kernel package. I have only heard of one person so far that did (and that was on a sony laptop) |
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| 13:37.17 | dumitru | mbmaster: mii-tool |
| 13:37.22 | zimba-tm | Hello ! |
| 13:37.30 | JDjoeka | All of them are -rw-r--r-- or drwxr-xr-x or drwx------ and even -r--r----- |
| 13:37.34 | Isbiten | heh |
| 13:37.34 | Isbiten | load average: 0.18, 0.06, 0.01 |
| 13:37.40 | mbmaster | dumitru: Thanks. |
| 13:37.40 | Isbiten | time to isntall BOINC ;) |
| 13:37.40 | JDjoeka | LSorensen: All of them seem to be ok |
| 13:37.41 | LSorensen | JDjoeka: what is drwx------ |
| 13:37.56 | ribnitz | LSorensen: /dev/hda2 (in devfs notation) does mot have any corresponding bios drive? |
| 13:37.59 | LSorensen | JDjoeka: and I meant what permissions does /etc the dir have, not what is in it. ls -ld /etc |
| 13:38.02 | JDjoeka | LSorensen: Sound ssh terminfo texmf etc.. |
| 13:38.15 | LSorensen | ribnitz: hmm, sounds like a boot loader issue. |
| 13:38.18 | raider_ | anybody know why when i want to go to console or rebootinhg i have that unistall xdm? any solution? |
| 13:38.18 | raider_ | !_! |
| 13:38.19 | dpkg | _ is, like, ALT-255 |
| 13:38.27 | JDjoeka | LSorensen: It has: drwx------ |
| 13:38.43 | MikeCamel | raider_: what do you mean? |
| 13:38.48 | ribnitz | LSorensen: if I understand grub corrently, its just adding/removing lines from menu.lst? |
| 13:38.51 | LSorensen | JDjoeka: well there is your problem. Some good broke /etc |
| 13:38.54 | LSorensen | er goof |
| 13:38.55 | zimba-tm | question: if a module is loaded, does it mean it is the right driver ? |
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| 13:39.04 | LSorensen | JDjoeka: etc MUST be rwxr-xr-x |
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| 13:39.24 | JDjoeka | LSorensen: Aha. what chmod nummeric should that be? |
| 13:39.24 | SwordFsh | pls say me again what program i need to can listen 2 sound in same time |
| 13:39.42 | MikeCamel | JDjoeka, that's 755 |
| 13:39.53 | nkuttler | SwordFsh: alsa or a sound server |
| 13:40.04 | LSorensen | JDjoeka: sounds like someone was playing with chmod and was being careless |
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| 13:40.19 | JDjoeka | LSorensen: Hmm. |
| 13:40.21 | raider_ | my english sux xD. when i startx and y try to go to console, it reboot the x. To go to console i have remove xdm... |
| 13:40.22 | JDjoeka | LSorensen: debian# ls -ld /etc |
| 13:40.22 | JDjoeka | drwxr-xr-x 96 root root 4096 2004-05-09 15:17 /etc |
| 13:40.22 | JDjoeka | debian# su dude |
| 13:40.28 | JDjoeka | LSorensen: No shell |
| 13:40.31 | JDjoeka | debian# |
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| 13:41.31 | MikeCamel | JDjoeka - what's in /etc/shells and /etc/passwd? |
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| 13:42.06 | LSorensen | JDjoeka: grep dude /etc/passwd /etc/group |
| 13:42.13 | corr | why is #openbox invite only |
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| 13:42.27 | MikeCamel | raider_, well, xdm is supposed to take you straight to X - that's what it does, I believe. |
| 13:42.28 | asg | corr: they may be having a dev meeting |
| 13:42.31 | ribnitz | LSorensen: do I get the feeling that grub is less suppoted than lilo? |
| 13:42.38 | corr | asg: hmm |
| 13:42.40 | JDjoeka | MikeCamel LSorensen : The shell is set to /usr/bin/zsh which is in /etc/shells and |
| 13:42.43 | JDjoeka | /etc/passwd:dude:x:1002:1002:,,,:/home/dude:/usr/bin/zsh |
| 13:42.46 | JDjoeka | /etc/group:dude:x:1002: |
| 13:42.46 | asg | corr: or some op fell asleep |
| 13:42.54 | corr | asg: i dunno |
| 13:43.12 | LSorensen | ribnitz: no, grub generally does better |
| 13:43.13 | MikeCamel | JDjoeka, and does /usr/bin/zsh exist? and what are the perms? |
| 13:43.26 | LSorensen | JDjoeka: and ls -l /usr/bin/zsh? |
| 13:43.29 | dan2 | asg: morning |
| 13:43.32 | corr | all i know is that i am in dire need for a fix of pepsi |
| 13:43.33 | asg | dan2: hiya |
| 13:43.38 | MikeCamel | LSorensen - sounds like we're thinking alike! |
| 13:43.43 | JDjoeka | LSorensen / MikeCamel lrwxr-xr-x 1 root root 28 2004-05-09 15:09 /usr/bin/zsh -> /etc/alternatives/zsh-usr |
| 13:43.49 | asg | corr: oh, do a /list #openbox |
| 13:43.54 | dan2 | asg: hmm, I am thinking about coding a compatiblity library for resiprocate |
| 13:44.04 | JDjoeka | LSorensen: Even if I su to a user who has bash it says: bash: dircolors: command not found |
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| 13:44.07 | ribnitz | LSorensen: now trying 2.6.5 ideas how to fix that bios-drive-thing? |
| 13:44.11 | dan2 | asg: so I can link osip2 applications against it |
| 13:44.17 | asg | dan2: *nod* |
| 13:44.22 | JDjoeka | MikeCamel oh forgot to mention you there for a sec |
| 13:44.25 | raider_ | MikeCamel: better will be i install kde? i have icewm now... or it's a stupid solution? im noob in debian... :) |
| 13:44.30 | MikeCamel | ribnitz, worth a try. |
| 13:44.36 | elephantman | Hi all |
| 13:44.39 | SwordFsh | nkuttler: how can i see if my kernel is maked with alsa ? |
| 13:44.42 | dan2 | asg: it has a ridiculous large amount of documentation, I bet resiprocate has the ability to handle all the calls |
| 13:44.43 | corr | moved off :O |
| 13:44.44 | LSorensen | ribnitz: delete /boot/grub/devices.map |
| 13:44.45 | MikeCamel | raider_ not going to help. Theyr'e different issues. |
| 13:44.48 | corr | where did they move to? |
| 13:44.50 | asg | dan2: hehe, cool. |
| 13:44.58 | asg | corr: check their website or mailing list archives |
| 13:44.59 | elephantman | I have quiet big HDD errors that make my system crash |
| 13:44.59 | raider_ | oh |
| 13:45.01 | JDjoeka | MikeCamel / LSorensen bash: mplayer: command not found |
| 13:45.10 | JDjoeka | MikeCamel / LSorensen With the user that uses mplayer |
| 13:45.10 | corr | thank you sir |
| 13:45.18 | dan2 | asg: heh, 50 mb in html documentation spit out from doxygen |
| 13:45.18 | corr | i know not much about irc |
| 13:45.21 | MikeCamel | JDjoeka, what's in .bashrc for dude? |
| 13:45.28 | asg | dan2: impressive |
| 13:45.31 | corr | i didnt even know about that command |
| 13:45.39 | elephantman | I think its a kernel driver problem, but can it be a hardware problem ? |
| 13:45.46 | LSorensen | JDjoeka: are your /etc/profile and /etc/bashrc and all that proper permissions? |
| 13:45.56 | MikeCamel | elephantman, easily! |
| 13:46.10 | elephantman | I mean hardware should work or not, but not work then crash....or yes ? |
| 13:46.11 | corr | echo 'exit' >> ~/.bashrc |
| 13:46.16 | corr | hehe |
| 13:46.17 | LSorensen | JDjoeka: It sounds like you or someone else with root access was playing with chmod -R and broke the system. I suspect a reinstall may be the simplest solution |
| 13:46.23 | dan2 | asg: http://mirrorlynx.com/~dan/resiprocate-doc/html |
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| 13:46.35 | LSorensen | JDjoeka: or you could try: apt-get install --reinstall base-files |
| 13:46.37 | spiekey | howdy |
| 13:46.38 | MikeCamel | elephantman, well, h/w can do weird things: has it ever worked? in a different machine? |
| 13:46.48 | spiekey | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:46.55 | MikeCamel | JDjoeka, I'm with LSorensen, I'm afraid. |
| 13:46.57 | spiekey | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:47.08 | elephantman | MikeCamel: its a laptop IBM thinkpad hardrive |
| 13:47.11 | corr | spiekey: wanna cookie? |
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| 13:47.18 | MikeCamel | elephantman, new one? |
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| 13:47.39 | mateusz | Hi |
| 13:47.42 | mateusz | Which automounter should I install if I use kernel 2.6.x ?? |
| 13:47.43 | MikeCamel | spiekey, likely to different versions of apache. |
| 13:47.44 | mateusz | autofs or am-utils ? |
| 13:47.53 | JDjoeka | MikeCamel / LSorensen What compression is best to use when compressing to the smallest size as possible? |
| 13:47.57 | elephantman | MikeCamel: so it only worked in this computer. Its a T22 so i should have it for 3years now. But i use it a lot |
| 13:47.59 | corr | is the latest pgp available for lunix |
| 13:48.06 | LSorensen | JDjoeka: bzip -9 might be |
| 13:48.19 | MikeCamel | corr - you can use gpg (gnupg), which is great. |
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| 13:48.30 | corr | i hate open source |
| 13:48.34 | dan2 | asg: very good reference doxygen makes :) |
| 13:48.35 | MikeCamel | JDjoeka, depends on what you're trying to compress. bzip2 is good for text. |
| 13:48.41 | corr | :D |
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| 13:48.43 | asg | dan2: yes, nice layout as well. |
| 13:48.45 | idnarhtim | corr: so why are you using "lunix"? :P |
| 13:48.49 | MikeCamel | elephantman, if it was working and now isn't, I'm guessing h/w failure. |
| 13:49.03 | JDjoeka | MikeCamel: My mp3s, It's 1.4 gig I have 1 cdr 700 mb. So it needs to be as small as possible. |
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| 13:49.11 | corr | idnarhtim: to take over the debian gnu/lunix project, of course. |
| 13:49.14 | JDjoeka | MikeCamel: The important docs will be uploaded |
| 13:49.20 | elephantman | MikeCamel: i mean its still working, but it often crash for ide failure... |
| 13:49.21 | corr | hehe |
| 13:49.23 | LSorensen | JDjoeka: mp3's won't compress |
| 13:49.23 | JDjoeka | LSorensen: Checking it out |
| 13:49.24 | dan2 | asg: tells me how every thing is related also |
| 13:49.31 | _K9_ | i'm trying to get a woody box with scsi disks to use kernel 2.6.5 |
| 13:49.34 | MikeCamel | JDjoeka, if they're already mp3s, they're unlikely to be compressible very much more. |
| 13:49.40 | dan2 | asg: graphs every where, it took 20 minutes to generate all this doc |
| 13:49.40 | _K9_ | it says if fails to mount partitions |
| 13:49.45 | LSorensen | JDjoeka: if they could be made smaller, they would already have made that part of the mp3 standard |
| 13:49.45 | elephantman | MikeCamel: when it crash i reboot, then its ok for 2 days more |
| 13:49.49 | MikeCamel | elephantman, in which case, back it up _now_ while you still can! |
| 13:49.50 | _K9_ | do i have to say sg0 instead of scd0 now ? |
| 13:50.00 | _K9_ | i didn't compile module support in it |
| 13:50.01 | JimButton | JDjoeka: buy a second CDR |
| 13:50.23 | spiekey | MikeCamel: doubt that the versions is causing that problem. If i take out "ExtendedStatus" then it complains about "Order"! |
| 13:50.28 | dan2 | asg: functions and classes in the text are hyperlinked :) |
| 13:50.38 | asg | dan2: :) |
| 13:50.47 | MikeCamel | JDjoeka, reinstalling doesn't mean you have to lose all your data, you know. |
| 13:50.48 | LSorensen | JDjoeka: compressed files rarely can be compressed any further |
| 13:50.48 | LSorensen | _K9_: no. |
| 13:50.48 | LSorensen | _K9_: sg is scsi generic, scd is scsi cd |
| 13:50.48 | LSorensen | _K9_: and woody can NOT run 2.6 kernels |
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| 13:50.49 | corr | i hope this doesnt break my box |
| 13:50.58 | elephantman | MikeCamel: yes true, am gonna update my backups |
| 13:51.00 | JimButton | haha |
| 13:51.02 | MikeCamel | spiekey, dunno, then. try a google. |
| 13:51.04 | asg | JimButton: he was lagged |
| 13:51.06 | _K9_ | LSorense, why not ? |
| 13:51.07 | JDjoeka | MikeCamel: What are you sugesting? |
| 13:51.20 | corr | why cant woody run a 2.6 kernel |
| 13:51.23 | JimButton | asg: yes, looks like it |
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| 13:51.30 | JimButton | corr: woody is old |
| 13:51.30 | asg | !wb LSorensen |
| 13:51.31 | dpkg | O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay! LSorensen has returned! |
| 13:51.31 | MikeCamel | JDjoeka, well, we suggested a reinstall recently, and I'm guessing that's why you want to back up your mp3s, yes? |
| 13:51.36 | Shadur | corr: Why can't you find someplace else to troll? |
| 13:51.43 | corr | i know |
| 13:51.44 | JDjoeka | MikeCamel: Yes, that would be prefered |
| 13:51.45 | JimButton | LSorensen: don't type so fast when you have lag... |
| 13:51.47 | asg | Shadur: they won't let him in #gentoo anymore |
| 13:51.47 | MikeCamel | elephantman, I'd get a new disk. |
| 13:51.48 | elephantman | MikeCamel: is there a tool that can make a complete diagnostic of my HD health ? |
| 13:51.51 | corr | but what does the kernel have to do with anything |
| 13:52.00 | Shadur | asg: A policy worth emulating. |
| 13:52.00 | corr | i'm not trying to argue, i just don't understand |
| 13:52.08 | asg | Shadur: ;) |
| 13:52.09 | LSorensen | _K9_: Why did you install 2.6.5 on woody? |
| 13:52.10 | JimButton | corr: there are new module init tools |
| 13:52.16 | elephantman | MikeCamel: yes but before i need to be shure its a h/w problem |
| 13:52.16 | MikeCamel | elephantman, yes, and I can't remember what do use! google time, or check out the debian packages search pages. |
| 13:52.23 | corr | Shadur: I'm not trolling, I'm asking questions, and trying to learn and take place in the community. |
| 13:52.29 | MikeCamel | elephantman, well, it if _was_ working... |
| 13:52.36 | corr | JimButton Oh okay :) thanks |
| 13:52.51 | elephantman | MikeCamel: ok thanx for everythink |
| 13:52.54 | elephantman | MikeCamel: ok thanx for everything |
| 13:53.02 | MikeCamel | elephantman, no worries. good luck! |
| 13:53.27 | MikeCamel | JDjoeka, if you don't change the partitions, and don't reformat, then you shouln't lose data. But it's always safer to backup, of course. |
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| 13:53.39 | _K9_ | LSorensen, nothing important |
| 13:53.52 | _K9_ | LSorensen, if it can't be done than it can't |
| 13:53.53 | LSorensen | _K9_: if you want 2.6, use testing. |
| 13:54.05 | MikeCamel | _K9_, or unstable... |
| 13:54.13 | LSorensen | _K9_: woody is stable and not meant to run new stuff, it's meant to be a steady reliable system |
| 13:54.27 | _K9_ | LSorensei know what woody is thanks ;) |
| 13:54.30 | LSorensen | _K9_: I run testing on my machine at work, and unstable at home. |
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| 13:54.46 | _K9_ | LSorensen, i can't afford to put testing on a production box |
| 13:54.50 | LSorensen | _K9_: stick with 2.4.18 (or 2.4.24 from proposed updates) on woody |
| 13:54.59 | _K9_ | i'm gonna patch 2.4 sighs |
| 13:55.00 | LSorensen | _K9_: nor can you afford 2.6 on a production system |
| 13:55.04 | MikeCamel | _K9_, I run stable on my router, testing on my wife's machine at home, and unstable on my own. |
| 13:55.08 | LSorensen | _K9_: what do you need to patch? |
| 13:55.11 | corr | 24 24 hah |
| 13:55.25 | templario | how i setup a usb gamepad ? |
| 13:55.27 | _K9_ | LSorensen, you mean to say 2.6 is not stable enough or what ? |
| 13:55.37 | _K9_ | LSorensen, some hardware stuff |
| 13:56.07 | MikeCamel | _K9_, 2.6 seems pretty stable, but it's just not had the years of testing that 2.4 has. |
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| 13:56.47 | LSorensen | _K9_: yes 2.6 is not stable enough yet |
| 13:56.56 | LSorensen | _K9_: too frequent changes |
| 13:57.10 | LSorensen | _K9_: and nothing wrong with 2.4.18 on woody if it supports the hardware |
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| 13:57.23 | LSorensen | _K9_: no security holes in 2.4.18 on woody. |
| 13:57.26 | flevour | hi all |
| 13:57.38 | corr | someone told me that woody's 2.4.18 is still vulnerable to a lot of exploits |
| 13:57.51 | _K9_ | LSorensen, i'm gonna patch 2.4.26 or whatever is the latest cause it has xfs by default |
| 13:57.53 | MikeCamel | LSorensen - s/security holes/known security holes/g; |
| 13:57.55 | LSorensen | corr: no, security.debian.org has made like 10 versions of 2.4.18 already with all the fixes |
| 13:58.00 | corr | but who knows, he said that it was still vulnerable to ptrace, and thats right in the changelog |
| 13:58.09 | flevour | is there a way to use the Debian installer boot cd as a boot cd to start the distro i have installed in my hard disk? i am using ppc |
| 13:58.16 | LSorensen | _K9_: ok. I suspect you could get 2.4.26 from testing and run it. That should be ok. |
| 13:58.19 | corr | LSorensen: s'what i thought |
| 13:58.20 | dan2 | asg: see what I am up against |
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| 13:58.32 | dan2 | asg: the osip library puts out a merely 15 mb of docs |
| 13:58.41 | dan2 | asg: and its not even C++ |
| 13:58.44 | asg | dan2: true |
| 13:58.52 | MikeCamel | \quit Time to go. |
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| 13:59.24 | dan2 | asg: all I can say is, resiprocate is fairly complete |
| 13:59.27 | sussudio | LSorensen: 17 versions |
| 13:59.33 | asg | dan2: yeah |
| 13:59.33 | dan2 | asg: osip2 misses a lot of needed features |
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| 13:59.40 | corr | when you say docs, do you mean.. like it maps what the code does? |
| 13:59.52 | dan2 | asg: atm, I am also writing my own sip proxy registrar :) |
| 13:59.56 | LSorensen | sussudio: wow they have been busy |
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| 14:00.19 | streuner | !tell chuckyn about root |
| 14:00.26 | asg | dan2: you said so yesterday. |
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| 14:00.50 | streuner | apt hey |
| 14:00.53 | apt | it has been said that hey is Hello |
| 14:01.00 | streuner | bah |
| 14:01.11 | asg | streuner: apt is schizo as usual |
| 14:01.15 | corr | hey is for horses |
| 14:01.18 | streuner | asg: :-) |
| 14:01.30 | asg | heyas is for ribnitz |
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| 14:02.10 | corr | man why am i downloading mutt, i hate that thing |
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| 14:02.29 | dan2 | asg: well, I don't remember, my sleeping disorder is killing me |
| 14:02.48 | asg | dan2: more benadryll! |
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| 14:04.44 | gerardo | hi |
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| 14:05.31 | ribnitz | re |
| 14:05.42 | bolete | Where is lsusb? |
| 14:05.52 | streuner_ | !find lsusb |
| 14:06.09 | bolete | No results |
| 14:06.14 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'lsusb' (1 shown): (/usr/bin/lsusb, /usr/sbin/lsusb) in utils/usbutils. |
| 14:06.31 | Nurbs | bolete: you could use apt-file or packages.debian.org for that |
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| 14:06.56 | corr | debian cd's by the layas, true f*ckin playas |
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| 14:07.15 | bolete | Just another debian noob. THanks. |
| 14:07.29 | ribnitz | LSorensen: ok, tried 2.4.26-1-686, and 2.6.5-1-686 (debian kernels). Both panic. Last three linrs are: Cannot Create /dev/null read-only fs, Cannot load dev/console (no such file or dir). Kernel Panic, attempted to kill init. |
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| 14:07.52 | LSorensen | ribnitz: on testing or unstable? |
| 14:08.57 | ribnitz | LSorensen: Sarge. |
| 14:08.58 | LSorensen | ribnitz: and whatever would try to create /dev/null on a readonly filesystem as part of boot |
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| 14:08.58 | mesbaba8 | !tell mesbaba8 about java-plugin |
| 14:09.13 | phogg | LSorensen: probably some script said foo -bar > /dev/null |
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| 14:09.26 | LSorensen | phogg: in initrd boot? |
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| 14:09.29 | templario | how i setup a usb gamepad ? |
| 14:09.44 | phogg | LSorensen: ...a very stupid script. |
| 14:09.49 | ribnitz | LSorensen: 2.4.25 (self built) works fine. with same options in grub menu.lst (except that i have hdc=ide-scsi and hdd=ide-scsi in the 2.4.25 boot line) |
| 14:09.52 | LSorensen | ribnitz: Well I have no idea anymore. Which kernel works? |
| 14:09.56 | corr | HEY did you guys know that the looney toons song is actually called The Merry-Go-Round Broke Down???/ |
| 14:10.06 | ribnitz | LSorensen: 2.4.25 (self built). |
| 14:10.17 | elshiftos | Is there a 'viewport' setting in the XFree config file? my display is fixed at 1024 even when running in a higher res |
| 14:10.21 | LSorensen | ribnitz: is your boot loader setup to do initrd properly? |
| 14:10.28 | CrippsFX | I'm trying to set up the php-4.3.6 module....looking at the FAQ for installation on php.net but still having some trouble, can somebody help me get apache to load the installed module? |
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| 14:10.55 | ribnitz | LSorensen: Grub. It initrd's fine with 2.4.25, so I assume it will with other files. |
| 14:11.17 | LSorensen | CrippsFX: apt-get install php4, then make sure apache enabled it in /etc/apache/httpd.conf |
| 14:11.24 | ribnitz | LSorensen: all that changes in menu.lst is the name of the file. privs the same. |
| 14:11.35 | LSorensen | ribnitz: which filesystem on /? |
| 14:11.50 | ribnitz | LSorensen: ext3 |
| 14:11.53 | CrippsFX | LSorenson: thanks...I have it compiled and installed...just looking for the location of httpd.conf (whereis httpd.conf didn't work ;) ) |
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| 14:12.14 | LSorensen | ribnitz: hmm, can't imagine why that wouldn't just work then |
| 14:12.21 | LSorensen | ribnitz: everything else is up to date on the system? |
| 14:12.26 | bhl | could anyone help me? my gdm's font is very small.. |
| 14:12.47 | ribnitz | LSorensen: last dist-upgrade was less that 12 hrs ago |
| 14:12.59 | bhl | I can not see anything.. I only put my user and pass |
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| 14:13.46 | nvs | templario: /usr/src/linux/Documentation/input/joystick.txt |
| 14:13.53 | corr | ninja: omg are you debian pirate roberts? |
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| 14:14.28 | LSorensen | ribnitz: weird. Anything on google with similar errors? |
| 14:14.44 | ribnitz | LSorensen: haven't checked yet. |
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| 14:15.03 | xyz | Are there any good file sharing programs for Debian? I want a program that doesn't share the file I'm currently downloading |
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| 14:15.11 | ribnitz | LSorensen: No idea why a default debian kernel, which installs fine would'nt work. |
| 14:15.22 | ribnitz | xyz: proftpd? |
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| 14:15.42 | xyz | ribnitz: never heard of that |
| 14:15.46 | Aranda | what permission´s i give to user to do shutwodn ? |
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| 14:16.00 | xyz | ribnitz: what about dc++, does it share the file while downloading? |
| 14:16.04 | fairway | hi |
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| 14:16.09 | ribnitz | xyz: no idea |
| 14:16.10 | LSorensen | ribnitz: using devfs by any chance? |
| 14:16.15 | templario | nvs pfff ,mu gamepad works but without any apparent reason stops working |
| 14:16.23 | fairway | does anyone know to replace all " with \", all % with %%, and all \ with \\ of a given string? |
| 14:16.28 | ribnitz | LSorensen: yes |
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| 14:16.59 | CrippsFX | xyz: no dc++ does not share the file you're d/l ing |
| 14:17.09 | corr | fairway is this hw sir |
| 14:17.16 | rich_ | xyz All the ones Ive tried have that ability. There seems to be clients for all major protocals and some minor ones.It mostly depends on your bandwidth which works best for you I think |
| 14:17.28 | bhl | does anyone know why my gdm's font is too small? |
| 14:17.47 | fairway | corr: hw? |
| 14:17.55 | rich_ | xyz and the number of users you wish to share with. |
| 14:17.56 | phogg | corr: are you a bot? |
| 14:17.58 | CrippsFX | rich_: are you rich from kolbnet.com? |
| 14:18.02 | ribnitz | LSorensen: (2.4.25, working): kernel /my/kernel root=/dev/hda2 ro, 2.4.26 (non-working, stock) gets the same params |
| 14:18.23 | phogg | fairway: sounds like a job for sed |
| 14:18.25 | asg | bhl: look in /etc/X11/gdm/gdm-config and see what the -dpi option is set to. |
| 14:18.29 | corr | phogg: i do not understand you, k thx bye! |
| 14:18.30 | asg | bhl: if 75, change it to 100 |
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| 14:18.38 | fairway | phogg: yeah well I don't know sed :] |
| 14:18.49 | LSorensen | ribnitz: well I don't know. |
| 14:18.51 | fairway | phogg: you know how to do it in vi though? |
| 14:18.53 | rich_ | CrippsFX I dont think so. Never heard of kolbnet and I dont post to any newsgroups so if its not an irc server it probably isnt me |
| 14:19.01 | xyz | rich_: the most important thing to me is that the program won't share the file I am downloading (like bittorrent or edonkey do). |
| 14:19.08 | caphuso | fairway: like in sed |
| 14:19.17 | phogg | fairway: no ;) |
| 14:19.20 | ribnitz | LSorensen: Is it worth bugreporting the thing? |
| 14:19.25 | xyz | I want total control of the files I am sharing |
| 14:19.27 | rich_ | xyz try dcgui |
| 14:19.33 | CrippsFX | rich_: most certainly is an irc server...and if it was you, you'd knbow (something having to do with being the creator of the server ;) ) |
| 14:19.43 | Aranda | what permission´s i give to user to do shutwodn ? |
| 14:19.50 | caphuso | Aranda: use sudo |
| 14:19.53 | xyz | rich_: I'll give it a go, thanks |
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| 14:20.38 | bhl | asg, ok |
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| 14:20.38 | LSorensen | ribnitz: if you can see something wrong, at worst the maintainer will aska few questions and find out you did something wrong right :) |
| 14:20.39 | rich_ | CrippsFX Oh, no then it wasnt me. I think I was on netcom last time I ran a irc server. |
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| 14:21.35 | phogg | fairway: echo "string % with \\ some \" and stuff" | sed -e 's/\%/\%\%/' -e 's/\\/\\\\/' -e 's/\"/\\"/' |
| 14:21.52 | bhl | asg, there is anything with "dpi" here |
| 14:22.16 | bhl | asg, I am looking into /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf |
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| 14:22.44 | mdh | phogg: is sed going to go into a silly recursion with the s/\\/\\\\/ ? |
| 14:22.51 | fairway | pole_: thanks a lot |
| 14:22.52 | phogg | fairway: actually, add a g between each / and ', or it will not work |
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| 14:22.56 | fairway | phogg: err phogg |
| 14:22.59 | corr_ | damn you controlling terminal! |
| 14:23.04 | corr_ | :) |
| 14:23.05 | asg | bhl: look for the command= lines (add a -dpi 100 to the ones that start X) |
| 14:23.15 | bhl | ok |
| 14:23.18 | phogg | mdh: no idea, I don't know shit about sed. |
| 14:23.23 | CrippsFX | rich_: well, to give you a hint...kolbenet.com is still running and has been for years...only a small network...but those of us who use it, love it :) |
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| 14:24.16 | bhl | I will check |
| 14:24.19 | rich_ | CrippsFX cool. I really never heard the name before and certainly nevver deliberately used it. If I stopped in it was probably on a list of irc servers.. |
| 14:24.25 | mdh | phogg: hehe. hink about it, if "\" changes to "\\", then the next char it hits is another "\", so that gets changed to "\\", and so on |
| 14:24.26 | phogg | mdh: with a few simple tests it seems to work |
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| 14:25.13 | knoppix | ae galera |
| 14:25.27 | asg | !portuguese |
| 14:25.27 | dpkg | from memory, portuguese is the most beautiful idiom of the world, or #debian-br, or por favor use #debian-br para ajuda em portugues. |
| 14:25.30 | asg | knoppix: ^^^ |
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| 14:26.30 | corr_ | it looks like that is a homework problem |
| 14:26.56 | mdh | mmm beer |
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| 14:27.09 | asg | mdh: good idea |
| 14:27.10 | CrippsFX | rich_: well, I just figured because of your nick...and being here.....that you might be him. |
| 14:27.15 | mdh | is beer any good when you're sick? |
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| 14:27.35 | corr_ | mdh: alcohol impairs your judgement and seperates motor controls and rationality. |
| 14:27.35 | asg | mdh: I think so, but I like beer at all times |
| 14:27.43 | abrotman | !pubtime |
| 14:27.43 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, pubtime is time for asg to go .. 3pm! |
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| 14:27.55 | deucalion | hi! could someone please tell me, why i'm banned on #debian.de? (i really have no idea... ) |
| 14:28.05 | CrippsFX | 3pm? it's 4:30 pm here |
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| 14:28.34 | mdh | corr_: wrong, all it does is lower your inhibitions and increases your latency |
| 14:28.38 | CrippsFX | hm...debian.de... when I brush up on my german, I should go there :P |
| 14:28.39 | corr_ | deucalion because everyone knows debian user's don't like aussies, come now! |
| 14:28.49 | CrippsFX | mdh: that's sick ;) |
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| 14:29.00 | corr_ | mdh: it causes all the worlds evil!!!1 |
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| 14:29.09 | mdh | CrippsFX: sick? |
| 14:29.12 | corr_ | i bet OSAMA drinks a lot |
| 14:29.19 | CrippsFX | mdh: "increases your latency" :P |
| 14:29.19 | phogg | CrippsFX: In GMT-5, also known as the One True Timezone, it is merely 10:30am |
| 14:29.21 | bhl | asg, thanks a lot.. |
| 14:29.26 | bhl | it works :) |
| 14:29.28 | asg | bhl: you're welcome |
| 14:29.40 | CrippsFX | phogg: yeah...so we're going by that then? :P |
| 14:29.41 | mdh | CrippsFX: your reaction time increases. what's sick about that? |
| 14:29.43 | abrotman | phogg: right on brother! |
| 14:29.50 | deucalion | baron1922: ??? |
| 14:29.55 | mdh | CrippsFX: I'm thinking specifically about turning steering wheels and applying brakes |
| 14:30.02 | CrippsFX | mdh: nothing.....I just thought it was humorous the way you described it :) |
| 14:30.09 | deucalion | baron1922: any special reason why you version me? |
| 14:30.10 | phogg | CrippsFX: I am. All of my devoted followers are. You have free will... FOR NOW! |
| 14:30.12 | corr_ | mdh: he is prolly thinking latency originated in computers. which it didnt. |
| 14:30.15 | LSorensen | phogg: you mean gmt-4 (EDT = gmt-4, EST = gmt-5) |
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| 14:30.19 | CrippsFX | phogg: lol. |
| 14:30.43 | phogg | LSorensen: your technical correctness makes me dizzy. |
| 14:30.44 | mdh | anyhow... .at is not australia, it's .. umm.. austria? |
| 14:30.52 | deucalion | austria, yes |
| 14:31.02 | baron1922 | deucalian: sorry 1st time using mirc, hope it didn't hurt too much ) |
| 14:31.06 | LSorensen | CrippsFX: where is that? |
| 14:31.15 | deucalion | baron1922: hehe, np |
| 14:31.16 | CrippsFX | LSorenson: Deutschland |
| 14:31.23 | LSorensen | CrippsFX: no summer time there yet? |
| 14:31.36 | CrippsFX | It is for me! yay university :) |
| 14:31.46 | LSorensen | CrippsFX: I mean daylight savings time? |
| 14:32.03 | corr | dutchland! |
| 14:32.11 | CrippsFX | oh...I don't know, I don't pay attention to those sort of things...if it's dark, it's time to get up, if it's light, its time for bed :P |
| 14:32.16 | CrippsFX | corr: yep. |
| 14:32.27 | LSorensen | CrippsFX: ah. well if it is DST then it is gmt+2 |
| 14:32.30 | phogg | LSorensen: I was under the impression that daylight savings time was a sadistic ritual practiced only by some insane american states. |
| 14:32.49 | mdh | phogg: it's an insane ritual practised all over the world |
| 14:32.49 | LSorensen | phogg: no, most of europe and most of north america at least do it |
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| 14:32.56 | mdh | phogg: instigated because someone was bad at maths |
| 14:32.59 | CrippsFX | LSorenson: well, it's 4:30....so I'm not sure...don't know what time it is in greenich ;) |
| 14:32.59 | ribnitz | phogg: i think there are very few states who don't |
| 14:33.03 | LSorensen | phogg: saskatchewan doesn't. |
| 14:33.03 | corr | phogg, it pwnz... sometimes. like when having to get up for school or work graveyard. |
| 14:33.19 | CrippsFX | phogg: that's my impression too..and Canada...God Bless Canada |
| 14:33.39 | LSorensen | phogg: the farmers thought it was a stupid goverment idea, which didn't affect when they were going to milk the cows and work in the fields so they ignored the idea :) |
| 14:33.49 | corr | god bless vietnam |
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| 14:33.55 | CrippsFX | lol. |
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| 14:34.25 | ries | hey all, when I have compiled a kernel on machine A, how can I transfer the needed files to system B without doing a recompile? |
| 14:34.50 | corr | ries: summon the holy ghost, nothing less will allow you to do that which you desire. |
| 14:34.51 | asg | ries: if you used make-kpkg, you only need the debs. You did use make-kpkg didn't you? |
| 14:34.52 | mdh | ries: ftp, scp, rsync, ... |
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| 14:35.05 | phogg | LSorensen: if it wasn't for the farmers, why the hell was it invented? |
| 14:35.15 | ries | asg: No.. I just used make deb, make modules, make bzImage |
| 14:35.25 | abrotman | theres a make deb? |
| 14:35.26 | CrippsFX | corr: lol. |
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| 14:35.32 | LSorensen | phogg: the city dwellers that wanted more evening light hours after work |
| 14:35.34 | asg | abrotman: make dep he meant |
| 14:35.38 | phogg | abrotman: for 2.6 there is |
| 14:35.41 | abrotman | asg: ewww |
| 14:35.45 | LSorensen | phogg: without having to go to work an hour earlier |
| 14:35.45 | haekan | what is knoppix? |
| 14:35.46 | abrotman | stop confusing me |
| 14:35.50 | abrotman | !knoppix |
| 14:35.50 | dpkg | knoppix is probably a bootable CD with a demo distribution, based mostly on Debian testing. It has almost 2GB in comprsessed volume, the works in memory not touching harddisks by default, autodetects hardware and starts a prepared KDE session. Can be installed on harddisk later. URL: http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html, http://sgeiger.mine.nu/docs/knoppix.php, /join #knoppix for knoppix-specific stuff. Not Debian but similar, s |
| 14:35.54 | deucalion | uhm, one short question: debian uses MD5 per default to hash passwords in /etc/shadow, right? |
| 14:35.59 | asg | ries: well, you could transfer the source tree and make install ; make modules_install on the other box |
| 14:36.03 | caphuso | deucalion: no, it asks the user |
| 14:36.11 | deucalion | caphuso: thx for the information :) |
| 14:36.18 | corr | yeah it asked me |
| 14:36.19 | caphuso | s/user/admin/ |
| 14:36.20 | mdh | phogg: men on the other side of the country don't like catching a bus/train to work with 'morning wood' |
| 14:36.22 | ries | asg: I don't have enough remove for the complete source tree on system B |
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| 14:36.27 | abrotman | ries: start *all* over .. use make-kpkg |
| 14:36.30 | phogg | LSorensen: damn cityfolk. With modern lightbulbs being what they are, we don't need it any longer. |
| 14:36.35 | ries | abrotman: Ok... |
| 14:36.43 | abrotman | ries: only if you want to :) |
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| 14:36.58 | abrotman | ries: but it will likely make your life easier |
| 14:37.05 | asg | phogg: it's the Sunglasses lobby; DST forces us to drive to work in the blazing morning sun. |
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| 14:37.09 | abrotman | look at caphuso .. hes been normal ever since he tried it |
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| 14:37.32 | haekan | how do i start blackbox? |
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| 14:37.51 | abrotman | haekan: from startx or a dm? |
| 14:37.55 | deucalion | caphuso: SHA1, MD5 and ... whats the 3rd option? i couldn't find the shadow-crypt options in the documentation of debian.org (although i'm still trying) |
| 14:37.55 | asg | haekan: echo '/usr/bin/blackbox' >> ~/.xsession ; startx |
| 14:38.06 | haekan | ok |
| 14:38.07 | phogg | asg: that wont work if he's got an exec line |
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| 14:38.23 | asg | phogg: at which point we'll tell him to edit it |
| 14:38.40 | asg | phogg: if he doesn't know how to do it, it's likely he doesn't have a .xsession to begin with. |
| 14:38.40 | phogg | haekan: sed ~/.xsession -e 's/exec.*/\/usr\/bin\/blackbox/' |
| 14:38.45 | quattro | how to setup opengl lib in debian? |
| 14:38.45 | haekan | ok |
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| 14:38.46 | haekan | thx |
| 14:38.54 | phogg | haekan: I mean sed ~/.xsession -e 's/exec.*/exec \/usr\/bin\/blackbox/' |
| 14:39.00 | haekan | k |
| 14:39.22 | phogg | I need to get off this sed kick. |
| 14:39.39 | asg | phogg: yes :) |
| 14:39.40 | ribnitz | phogg: already tried awk? |
| 14:39.51 | ribnitz | phogg: or perl? |
| 14:39.52 | phogg | ribnitz: that's my next stop |
| 14:40.02 | haekan | phogg it didnt work |
| 14:40.03 | asg | phogg: actually, it would be generally better to remove the last non-comment line since exec isn't required |
| 14:40.03 | phogg | ribnitz: I've done perl for years. |
| 14:40.23 | ribnitz | phogg: I can also recommend the thing manpages are written in. groff/nroff |
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| 14:40.46 | phogg | asg: true. |
| 14:40.50 | aw | anyone uses firestarter here? |
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| 14:41.10 | phogg | ribnitz: nroff scares me. I'll need to fortify myself with a a few more languages before I attempt it |
| 14:41.29 | asg | phogg: s/languages/lagers/ |
| 14:41.31 | LSorensen | phogg: intercal? |
| 14:41.39 | phogg | LSorensen: NO! |
| 14:41.43 | LSorensen | phogg: oh intercal may require alcohol |
| 14:42.12 | phogg | LSorensen: my brother tried explaining intercal to me one day. It's sick! |
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| 14:42.23 | ribnitz | phogg: Brainfuck. |
| 14:42.26 | LSorensen | phogg: it's the result of drunk CS students |
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| 14:42.37 | phogg | ribnitz: I've done brainfuck. |
| 14:42.44 | n3kr0 | anyone running gnome 2.6 on sarge ??? |
| 14:42.49 | phogg | ribnitz: fuckfuck is more fun |
| 14:43.04 | LSorensen | n3kr0: it would technically not really be sarge if they did would it. :) |
| 14:43.21 | ries | abrotman: I did apt-get install; make-kpkg; It's doing something now... I'll wait till it's finished |
| 14:43.36 | n3kr0 | LSorensen, any way to do it ? |
| 14:44.23 | corr | brainfuck, intercal... bah! perl :) |
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| 14:44.49 | phogg | corr: perl is too easy to understand. |
| 14:44.58 | borius | what is the recommended way of adding your own boot options? placing a script in /etc/init.d/ ? |
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| 14:45.09 | borius | what is the recommended way of adding iptables rules? |
| 14:45.10 | asg | borius: read /etc/init.d/skeleton and /etc/init.d/README |
| 14:45.19 | corr | phogg, perl looks like an explosion in an ascii factory |
| 14:45.26 | LSorensen | n3kr0: don't know. I don't really use gnome much, and when I do it's on sid |
| 14:45.49 | asg | borius: oh, iptables reads /var/lib/iptables/{active,inactive}. Touch those files to create them and put your rules in there. |
| 14:45.51 | mdh | corr: perl is fairly easy to write stuff in |
| 14:45.56 | n3kr0 | is gnome 2.6 on sid ? |
| 14:46.04 | asg | corr: s/looks/can look/ |
| 14:46.05 | mdh | just don't try reading it later if you value your sanity |
| 14:46.16 | phogg | corr: perl is childs play next to brainfuck, and brainfuck is a walk in the park next to INTERCAL |
| 14:46.17 | LSorensen | n3kr0: I thought it was |
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| 14:46.28 | DArk_KNot_AWay | alguem fala portugues aki?? |
| 14:46.34 | asg | !portuguese |
| 14:46.34 | dpkg | i heard portuguese is the most beautiful idiom of the world, or #debian-br, or por favor use #debian-br para ajuda em portugues. |
| 14:46.37 | asg | DArk_KNot_AWay: ^^ |
| 14:46.40 | LSorensen | n3kr0: hmm, maybe not. I see 2.4.1 |
| 14:46.43 | corr | phogg: and all surrender to the esotericness that is C++ |
| 14:46.52 | borius | asg: k |
| 14:46.54 | phogg | corr: um... no. |
| 14:46.58 | DArk_KNot_AWay | !portuguese |
| 14:46.58 | dpkg | [portuguese] the most beautiful idiom of the world, or #debian-br, or por favor use #debian-br para ajuda em portugues. |
| 14:46.59 | DArk_KNot_AWay | !portuguese |
| 14:47.18 | borius | asg: when i put my script in /etc/init.d/ do i need to make a link to /etc/rcS.d/ |
| 14:47.19 | corr | phogg: lol |
| 14:47.26 | asg | borius: yes, man update-rc.d |
| 14:47.31 | Googliano | Stupid question maybe but is phpnuke available for debian/linux? I went to phpnuke.org and there appears to only be a windows .zip file available. |
| 14:47.32 | borius | asg: k |
| 14:47.38 | leOn | anyone here uses update-menus ? |
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| 14:47.43 | asg | Googliano: apt-cache search phpnuke |
| 14:47.45 | corr | in all seriousness, though, one of the most confusing languages i've coded in is prolog |
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| 14:48.26 | mdh | I hated COBOL |
| 14:48.36 | Googliano | asg: it displays nothing, guess i do not have it. Thanks |
| 14:48.37 | corr | testing still has 2.95 hmmm |
| 14:48.44 | ribnitz | corr: its rather intuitive once you get to the stuff. |
| 14:48.50 | leOn | i lost _everything_ on a machine yesterday after running that ... completly wiped out my disk |
| 14:48.54 | corr | question: can i safely rm gcc-2.95 on testing? |
| 14:48.56 | mdh | never really learnt it, but in first year uni I helped a 3rd year student with a COBOL assignment so I had a "deep-end" self tutorial on it |
| 14:49.06 | Isbiten | Im having trouble with samba, it won't let me write in my home dir |
| 14:49.09 | corr | ribnitz true, i guess its just hard to get into (at least for me) |
| 14:49.11 | Isbiten | any idea what I should do? |
| 14:49.12 | corr | it always felt like thinking backwards |
| 14:49.12 | leOn | an rm -rf / wouldn't have done a better job |
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| 14:49.22 | asg | leOn: check the bts, file bugs. |
| 14:49.37 | mdh | ada was kinda cool |
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| 14:50.18 | Isbiten | how do you restart apache on debian? |
| 14:50.30 | corr | gotta pay my speeding ticket, yeehah |
| 14:50.39 | Gh0sty | anyone have an idea how i could get my light controls om my laptop to work (toshiba satellite pro M10) |
| 14:50.47 | js_ | whats the line i type to the bots to get that info about mit_magic_cookie? .. something like "ssh and x" |
| 14:50.48 | aw | Isbiten: /etc/init.d/apache restart, or use apachectrl |
| 14:51.01 | Gh0sty | backlight stays 75% witch isn't very good for battery life |
| 14:51.06 | LSorensen | Gh0sty: install toshutils? |
| 14:51.16 | saloxin_ | js_: /msg dpkg sshx |
| 14:51.19 | corr | Gh0sty ... |
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| 14:51.23 | hefty | which font do i need to see "Font 4" in Eterm? which you can select in the menue. when i click on "Font 4" it always falls back to "Font 1" or so |
| 14:51.27 | Gh0sty | hm, dunno, i've tried some things in there, but didn't seem to work :( |
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| 14:51.29 | ribnitz | I have a stage problem with my kernel. when I upgrade from a self-built 2.4.25 to a debian-provided 2.4.26 (with grub and devfs). Kernel panics on trying to write to /dev/null and reading /dev/console. (attempted to kill init). Any ideas? |
| 14:51.34 | borius | asg: i ran update-rc.d with the not really parameter... it seems it creates links to all the rc dirs... i only want my script to run at bootup time |
| 14:51.42 | corr | Gh0sty kernel support, toshutils, and there are other utils available if you google for them |
| 14:51.44 | aw | I use firestarter to set up my firewall which in turn uses iptables.... will it work ok in conjuction with portsentry when portsentry issues iptables' commands? |
| 14:52.00 | LSorensen | Gh0sty: toshset? |
| 14:52.22 | ribnitz | borius: use file-rc? |
| 14:52.35 | Gh0sty | perhaps with my new kernel, haven't tested it since i've recompiled a 2.6 kernel |
| 14:52.50 | CrippsFX | LSorenson: so you said 'apt-get install apache' then uncomment the 'LoadModule php3 /whatever/dir/is/here' line? |
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| 14:53.04 | zumbi | how do you create initrd.img... i did $ mkinitrd -o /boot/initrd.img 2.4.26 but it doesn't seems to work |
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| 14:53.45 | LSorensen | zumbi: 2.4.26 is incomplete I suspect. |
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| 14:53.52 | borius | i only want my script to run at bootup, so i was thinking i should just manually link it to /etc/rcS.d/ -- is that recommended? |
| 14:53.54 | LSorensen | zumbi: probably 2.4.26-1-686 or something similar |
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| 14:54.02 | LSorensen | borius: run as root? |
| 14:54.04 | leOn | i'd love to submit a bug report, but unfortunatly i lost everything on that machine |
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| 14:54.18 | leOn | so i don't have versions of anything |
| 14:54.21 | LSorensen | borius: /etc/rcS.d is run at boot once. So is anything in cron with a time of '@reboot' |
| 14:54.25 | zumbi | LSorensen, i have /lib/modules/2.4.26/.. |
| 14:54.29 | abrotman | ries: done yet? |
| 14:54.35 | steven__ | is there any way to get rid of the popus |
| 14:54.40 | LSorensen | zumbi: and the kernel has cramfs initrd support? |
| 14:54.51 | zumbi | i think so |
| 14:54.53 | ixi-deb04 | Why exim could start very slowly? About 10 seconds. I tried 'exim -d11' but it doesn't print any error messages |
| 14:54.53 | zumbi | yes |
| 14:54.59 | LSorensen | zumbi: where did the kernel source come from? |
| 14:55.06 | zumbi | apt-get |
| 14:55.14 | mdh | ixi-deb04: because exim is a piece of crap? |
| 14:55.16 | LSorensen | zumbi: so apt-get install kernel-source-2.4.26? |
| 14:55.23 | zumbi | yes LSorensen |
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| 14:55.40 | LSorensen | zumbi: ok, so that should be ok. doesn't installing the kernel package create your initrd for you? |
| 14:55.43 | borius | so, should i just call the link S99Borius? |
| 14:55.47 | ribnitz | mdh: is it? |
| 14:55.48 | ixi-deb04 | mdh: what is crap? mine is not inglishnatife |
| 14:55.50 | LSorensen | zumbi: or did you neglect to use make-kpkg? |
| 14:56.02 | asg | borius: well, update-rc.d can be configured to use only one link |
| 14:56.09 | zumbi | i use the traditional way |
| 14:56.11 | borius | asg: i couldnt tell how from the man |
| 14:56.13 | rich_ | thanks everyone bbl |
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| 14:56.22 | LSorensen | zumbi: make-kpkg is simpler and much more convinient |
| 14:56.24 | zumbi | LSorensen, w/make bzImage |
| 14:56.28 | asg | borius: some of them will be K links which cause a shutdown of service in certain runlevels |
| 14:56.37 | ixi-deb04 | Does anybody know what can slow down exim's starting? |
| 14:56.49 | arturaz | any idea how to turn off xft globally? |
| 14:56.50 | LSorensen | ixi-deb04: bad /etc/hosts or dns settings? |
| 14:56.54 | asg | borius: however, if you only need one link, it is perfectly fine to use ln |
| 14:56.55 | zumbi | does make-kpkg makes the initrd.img ? |
| 14:57.02 | borius | asg: ah, but these is stuff that has no shutdown equivalent... like hd parameters and stuff |
| 14:57.04 | LSorensen | zumbi: when you install the .deb it creates, yes |
| 14:57.05 | mdh | ixi-deb04: rubbish, garbage, effluent |
| 14:57.05 | abrotman | zumbi: only if you tell it to |
| 14:57.10 | borius | asg: great, thats all i needed to hear :) |
| 14:57.14 | asg | borius: :) |
| 14:57.18 | ixi-deb04 | mdh: I dont thinkg Exim is garbage... |
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| 14:57.25 | zumbi | ok, i'll try that some day .. |
| 14:57.33 | mdh | congratulations |
| 14:57.36 | LSorensen | zumbi: I know I wish I had tried make-kpkg sooner. |
| 14:57.57 | ries | abrotman: it's building the .deb package now.... It's a slow system... |
| 14:57.57 | ixi-deb04 | LSorensen: well, then it should probably say something about it, isnt it? I use maximum debug level but there are no errors. |
| 14:58.14 | zumbi | all times i have use make-kpkg it didn't load my kernel |
| 14:58.30 | zumbi | thats the reason why i don't use make-kpkg |
| 14:58.31 | asg | zumbi: make-kpkg kernel_image is often a good way to go |
| 14:58.55 | zumbi | asg, but what about modules ? |
| 14:58.55 | LSorensen | ixi-deb04: not sure. being unable to resolve takes a long time. It's the most common thing to make exim slow to start |
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| 14:59.07 | asg | zumbi: kernel_image will build a single deb with kernel and modules |
| 14:59.16 | asg | zumbi: at least it has always done for me :) |
| 14:59.19 | LSorensen | zumbi: if you want initrd, adding --initrd is a good idea |
| 14:59.40 | ixi-deb04 | LSorensen: so I should skim the exim.conf and try to resolve by a hand (with dig) everythin which looks like domain name? :) |
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| 14:59.56 | asg | ixi-deb04: does hostname --fqdn return something sane? |
| 14:59.57 | zumbi | ok, i'll try next time, but why can't i make an initrd.img with mkinitrd ? |
| 15:00.23 | ixi-deb04 | asg: sure! I spent much time to make it get quick answer :) |
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| 15:00.37 | thomas_adam | zumbi: You don't need one. Just ensure you have ext2/3 support as statically compiled into the kernel. |
| 15:00.42 | asg | ixi-deb04: okay :) |
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| 15:00.45 | es | hey all! Do you think the sarge branch will be soon be puted on the stable branch? When this is going to happen? |
| 15:00.54 | thomas_adam | !hurry |
| 15:00.55 | dpkg | Ohhhhh.... Aaaarrrreeee yyyyoooouuuuuuuuu iiiinnnn a huuuuurrrrrrryyyyy? Welllllll... |
| 15:00.58 | jasc | What do I have to put into the 'email client' line of KDE, so that mutt starts with a new mail and uses the just clicked mail address? |
| 15:01.00 | haekan | how do i start blackbox? |
| 15:01.08 | asg | es: it is possible that 2005 will be the release date. |
| 15:01.09 | thomas_adam | haekan: raid an airplane. |
| 15:01.09 | zumbi | thomas_adam, i know i don't need it, but i was trying to build a live-cd |
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| 15:01.20 | es | asg: you joking? |
| 15:01.36 | LSorensen | es: no there is some issues involving firmware in the kernel and X and such. |
| 15:01.36 | asg | es: no, recent issues with the Social Contract may delay release |
| 15:01.52 | haekan | my internet shuts down every 5 minutes...what should i do? |
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| 15:02.09 | es | asg: what about Social Contract? whta is it? |
| 15:02.13 | acker | i've recenetly removed Blackbox Window Manager. I've installed XFCE4 but I doesn't start when i login through GDM. How can i set it to start automaticaly (and for all users). (has something to do with x-session-manager) (using Debain SID) |
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| 15:02.27 | elshiftos | haekan run deb instead of windows |
| 15:02.30 | bghfhfg | When the kernel initializes, should it open tty0 or tty1? What are the tty devices anyway, terminals? |
| 15:02.32 | streuner__ | haekan: sounds like an ISP issue NOT OS |
| 15:02.34 | asg | es: the defining document for the Debian project |
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| 15:03.01 | asg | es: the promises that Debian makes to the community are listed therein |
| 15:03.04 | zumbi | acker, try xfce4_setup && xfce4-session |
| 15:03.20 | acker | zumbi, i'll try it now |
| 15:03.47 | bghfhfg | When the kernel initializes, should it open tty0 or tty1? What are the tty devices anyway, terminals? |
| 15:03.54 | jpieper | Does the Xserver in unstable have built in support for 3D acceleration with the ATI cards that DRI supports? (i.e. 9200 and earlier) |
| 15:03.56 | pingouiin | acker, did you check the www page for xfce4 ? |
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| 15:04.23 | es | asg: the problem is that I need a os running on 2.4.x linux and gcc >3.x and my provider doesn't support sarge yet. Can I switch to sarge when the woody is on? |
| 15:04.47 | mdh | jpieper: I believe so, yes |
| 15:04.50 | asg | es: yes, /msg dpkg stable -> testing |
| 15:04.52 | LSorensen | es: right now the kernel (which is GPL) contains firmware for some devices in the drivers, which has no source to the firmware, which is a violation of the GPL, so the firmware has to be removed, or have source included if debian is to distribute the kernel |
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| 15:04.55 | jpieper | mdh: Great, thanks! |
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| 15:05.07 | LSorensen | es: well gcc 3.0 is in woody |
| 15:05.15 | asg | bah |
| 15:05.18 | LSorensen | es: as is 2.4.18 (with security fixes) |
| 15:05.21 | asg | es: /msg dpkg stable->testing |
| 15:05.22 | elshiftos | this boots straight into X, is that correct? -> id:2:initdefault: |
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| 15:05.39 | asg | elshiftos: no, /msg dpkg dm |
| 15:05.41 | LSorensen | elshiftos: runlevel has nothing to do with it. /etc/rc#.d and /etc/init.d does |
| 15:05.43 | mdh | jpieper: my friend has a 9000 and claims 120+ fps when capped to that in RTCW and super stability (the vendor ATI drivers apparently lock up a lot) |
| 15:05.44 | acker | pingouiin, this is a particular question, but i want to find the answer to be more genericaly. I've searched /etc for word blackbox before but haven't found anything interesting |
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| 15:06.03 | LSorensen | elshiftos: well runlevel 2,3,4,5 are identical in debian unless you make them different yourself |
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| 15:06.13 | es | LSorense: so I can run 2.4.18 with fixes in woody? |
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| 15:06.14 | LSorensen | elshiftos: to start x at boot install xdm, kdm or gdm |
| 15:06.17 | LSorensen | es: yes |
| 15:06.20 | pingouiin | acker i use once xfce4 and on their www. page, there is how to set it up and lauch it |
| 15:06.23 | acker | pingouiin, i've searched their page at documentation, but haven't seen anything about debian. (too fast scanning?) |
| 15:06.27 | LSorensen | es: it is the recomended kernel in woody |
| 15:06.34 | es | LSorense and apache 2.0? |
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| 15:06.46 | LSorensen | es: no. apache2 isn't stable (or at least wasn't when woody was released) |
| 15:06.51 | jpieper | mdh: that is just what I wanted to hear. |
| 15:06.53 | zumbi | acker /usr/share/doc/xfce4 |
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| 15:07.19 | LSorensen | es: you can get apache2 for woody from www.backports.org |
| 15:07.19 | ries | abrotman: unbelieveable!!! That worked perfectly :D |
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| 15:07.33 | ries | abrotman: Thanx, you saved my day!! |
| 15:08.00 | es | LSorense: ohh thanks that is usefull! it's that reliable enought? did you have test it your self? |
| 15:08.32 | LSorensen | es: I don't use apache2 myself. Last I tried too many extensions were still missing |
| 15:08.34 | pingouiin | acker, http://xfce.org/index.php?page=documentation&lang=en |
| 15:08.37 | asg | es: the guy who runs backports.org is a developer so you can take *some* comfort in the backports. They are not official and supported, however. |
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| 15:08.51 | pingouiin | Running Xfve4 section |
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| 15:09.41 | `RaSh | is a new version of debian out? |
| 15:09.56 | zumbi | pingouiin, but does for source, not for .deb installed |
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| 15:10.01 | asg | `RaSh: no, sarge has not been released as stable. |
| 15:10.06 | es | asg: ok thanks. was wondring if mod_jk2.so is already compiled anyone is running here apache 2 + java? |
| 15:10.11 | zumbi | s/does/thats |
| 15:10.22 | es | (in woody) |
| 15:10.32 | asg | es: I've run the backport with my own backport of mod_python; dunno about the tomcat connector though. |
| 15:10.35 | `RaSh | i dont like woody |
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| 15:10.42 | pingouiin | zumbi, it's the same (execpt the installation of sources 4 sure) |
| 15:10.56 | pingouiin | justre edit you'r ~/.xinitrc |
| 15:10.59 | asg | `RaSh: why? |
| 15:11.00 | abrotman | `RaSh: tell her to leave you alone |
| 15:11.04 | zumbi | pingouiin, i haven't a startxfce4 |
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| 15:11.29 | pingouiin | xfce-mcs-manager |
| 15:11.29 | pingouiin | xfwm4 --daemon |
| 15:11.29 | pingouiin | xftaskbar4 & |
| 15:11.29 | pingouiin | xfdesktop & |
| 15:11.29 | pingouiin | exec xfce4-panel |
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| 15:11.31 | es | asg:what you mean by " with my own backport of mod_python;"? |
| 15:11.33 | `RaSh | asg wont detect alot of things and i have to conf.. all again. |
| 15:11.33 | acker | pingouiin, i know :(. Install with building, cvs, and something about session manager. It says that it will run in background, so not to append &. But i do not want to type that to start xfce. |
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| 15:11.50 | eruin | anyone here sporting xchat-gnome .deb? ;) |
| 15:11.52 | `RaSh | the xfree86 is messed up |
| 15:11.56 | LSorensen | es: some people do their own recompiles for woody. making debian packages isn't that hard |
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| 15:12.01 | pingouiin | use kde or gnome so... |
| 15:12.03 | ixi-deb04 | LSorensen: I tried 'host' with all domains mentioned in exim.conf - the answers were quick as hell. Still exim startups in more then 10 seconds... |
| 15:12.07 | asg | es: I had a requirement from some coders at work to run mod_python on apache2 (I backported mod_python to work with a backport of python2.3 for woody to work with the backports.org backport of apache2) |
| 15:12.08 | RavenQR | is there a way i can reverse an unstable dist-upgrade? |
| 15:12.18 | pingouiin | if xfce4 is to hard to set up |
| 15:12.20 | FieldySnuts | asg: wannng |
| 15:12.20 | asg | `RaSh: /msg dpkg set up x |
| 15:12.21 | LSorensen | ixi-deb04: not sure. 10s isn't that long either. 5 minutes would be a long startup :) |
| 15:12.24 | asg | FieldySnuts: delllll |
| 15:12.28 | FieldySnuts | asg: compaqqqqq |
| 15:12.34 | `RaSh | i know how to do it |
| 15:12.37 | asg | FieldySnuts: waaaantek |
| 15:12.41 | FieldySnuts | badgerwangtekkk |
| 15:12.49 | asg | `RaSh: type '/msg dpkg set up x' in your irc client |
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| 15:12.55 | asg | `RaSh: follow the instructions. |
| 15:12.59 | FieldySnuts | !badger The Whole World(TM) |
| 15:13.09 | antenagora | hi all |
| 15:13.10 | asg | FieldySnuts: didn't know there were badgers in Redmond |
| 15:13.11 | dpkg | The Whole World(TM): BadgerBadgerBadgerBadgerBadgerBadgerMushroomMUSHROOMBadgerBadgerBadgerBadgerSnaaaaaaaaakkeeeASnaaaaake |
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| 15:13.18 | es | LSorense compiling mod_jk2 it's not that easy the autoconf file is broked |
| 15:13.18 | `RaSh | i know how to do that.. |
| 15:13.22 | RavenQR | is there a way i can reverse an unstable dist-upgrade? |
| 15:13.26 | bullseye | when i play music and search apt-get my music hangs ??? |
| 15:13.32 | JimButton | RavenQR: not really |
| 15:13.35 | asg | RavenQR: generally not (/msg dpkg downgrade) |
| 15:13.39 | pingouiin | RavenQR, format ;) |
| 15:13.40 | `RaSh | the nvidia drivers.. wouldnt dl last time |
| 15:13.40 | asg | bullseye: man hdparm |
| 15:13.44 | RavenQR | lol |
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| 15:13.56 | es | asg: sound difficult isn't it? |
| 15:13.57 | LSorensen | `RaSh: nvidia driver package in debian works great for me |
| 15:13.58 | `RaSh | the emu10k1 wont either |
| 15:14.07 | LSorensen | `RaSh: alsa drivers work on mine |
| 15:14.11 | asg | es: it can be (/msg dpkg simple sid backport) |
| 15:14.12 | `RaSh | LSorense im talking long time ago |
| 15:14.22 | `RaSh | i dont like alsa. nor OSS |
| 15:14.35 | LSorensen | `RaSh: if you don't like alsa, you won't ever like any sound driver |
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| 15:14.54 | corr | gettext, is it good or is it whack |
| 15:14.58 | bullseye | asg: no entry for hdparm |
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| 15:15.00 | `RaSh | u cant record with alsa |
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| 15:15.03 | eruin | corr: more like evil. |
| 15:15.05 | asg | bullseye: apt-get install hdparm ; man hdparm |
| 15:15.11 | LSorensen | `RaSh: of course you can. many people do |
| 15:15.18 | dan2 | asg: ahh, a good shave always feels good :) |
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| 15:15.22 | `RaSh | then is a new version |
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| 15:15.29 | pingouiin | `RaSh, YOU only can't record with alsa |
| 15:15.32 | LSorensen | `RaSh: things like audacity and libjack wouldn't exist if you couldn't |
| 15:15.32 | corr | i hear alsa lets multiple programs use the device at once |
| 15:15.32 | abrotman | dan2: you got all 3 of those hairs? |
| 15:15.33 | dan2 | asg: still here? |
| 15:15.33 | asg | dan2: I hate shaving, though have to :( |
| 15:15.37 | pingouiin | Others DO |
| 15:15.38 | asg | abrotman: haha |
| 15:15.39 | corr | is this true ? |
| 15:15.49 | JimButton | `RaSh: recording has been in alsa for ages |
| 15:15.52 | bullseye | asg: what is hdparm |
| 15:15.55 | `RaSh | well.. |
| 15:15.55 | dan2 | abrotman: I had a full grown moustache, it was bothering me, so I shaved it off |
| 15:16.03 | eruin | asg: eat more female hormone pills |
| 15:16.08 | asg | bullseye: it sets and optimizes IDE drives (most likely the cause of your issue) |
| 15:16.11 | abrotman | dan2: there pictures of me with a full beard :) |
| 15:16.16 | abrotman | err are pictures |
| 15:16.19 | asg | eruin: I'd have to eat a shitload, I'm a hairy beast :) |
| 15:16.23 | `RaSh | last time i tryed to play unreal 2004 and it wouldnt work gave me an error |
| 15:16.24 | eruin | ;> |
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| 15:16.33 | dan2 | abrotman: ugh, I cut my nose with my razor, hurts |
| 15:16.41 | LSorensen | `RaSh: probably had something misconfigured then |
| 15:16.42 | abrotman | dan2: dont do that |
| 15:16.49 | asg | dan2: shaving your nose hairs voids your warranty |
| 15:16.50 | dan2 | abrotman: very bottom of my nose |
| 15:16.51 | JimButton | dan2: right, moustaches are evil, you should get mullets |
| 15:16.52 | abrotman | dan2: and why are you shaving your nose? |
| 15:16.58 | Weeble | indeed |
| 15:17.01 | thomas_adam | asg: And pubes does not? |
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| 15:17.18 | dan2 | abrotman: it was under my nose, but cut the bottom of my nose |
| 15:17.21 | `RaSh | im using gentoo right now.. im changing to debian |
| 15:17.27 | `RaSh | emerge takes 2 long |
| 15:17.28 | Weeble | I believe the word used for that was "nullifies" |
| 15:17.30 | asg | thomas_adam: he didn't indicate he was, but I expect that will also void it. |
| 15:17.46 | asg | !britsmite thomas_adam |
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| 15:17.49 | thomas_adam | `RaSh: Takes too long? FFS, it has to compile it first! |
| 15:18.08 | thomas_adam | `RaSh: You can instruct emerge to use a binary version. |
| 15:18.09 | dan2 | !badgersmite thomas_adam |
| 15:18.11 | `RaSh | thomas_adam i know and takes alot! with apt-get is fast |
| 15:18.20 | thomas_adam | hehehehe |
| 15:18.29 | dan2 | hehe |
| 15:18.34 | Gh0sty | hm, i found out i need to feed some extra information to a module, but problem is i didn't compile it as a module, can i feed it to the kernel with lilo in stead? :s |
| 15:18.35 | `RaSh | cauase apt is like rpms |
| 15:18.36 | pingouiin | i never use another disro except Debian, and mandrake at my liinux beginning..... |
| 15:18.39 | thomas_adam | asg: I have a box of "Yorkshire tea" here. One teabag makes two cups! |
| 15:18.42 | pingouiin | should have try this genntoo |
| 15:18.49 | thomas_adam | (so the box says) |
| 15:18.53 | asg | thomas_adam: PG Tips :) |
| 15:18.53 | dan2 | thomas_adam: tea sucks |
| 15:18.59 | thomas_adam | asg: Ewww. |
| 15:19.08 | thomas_adam | asg: Usually 'Twinnings' for me. |
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| 15:19.17 | sussudio | !britsnack |
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| 15:19.19 | asg | thomas_adam: a joke if ever there was one ;) I havent had tea in years. |
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| 15:19.36 | thomas_adam | sussudio: ;) |
| 15:19.41 | thomas_adam | dan2: hmm. |
| 15:19.45 | asg | thomas_adam: just strong coffee and beer these days :) |
| 15:19.56 | dan2 | asg: you haven't tasted strong... |
| 15:19.56 | thomas_adam | asg: Coffee is my tipple, aye. :) |
| 15:20.06 | asg | dan2: I have, I promise you. |
| 15:20.08 | dan2 | asg: this french roast is a little too strong |
| 15:20.15 | corr | did you guys know that woody woodpecker has a star on the walk of fame |
| 15:20.16 | thomas_adam | dan2: ca sous fi! |
| 15:20.26 | asg | dan2: try drinking the coffee at the Iowa 80 truckstop if you ever get the chance |
| 15:20.28 | abrotman | dan2: have you considered acting your age :) |
| 15:20.40 | abrotman | asg: is it a buckhorn? |
| 15:20.46 | dan2 | asg: you have never drunk coffee from california from all the fresh roasters |
| 15:20.51 | g4lt | abrotman but then he's turn to dust and blow away ;P |
| 15:21.02 | JimButton | dan2: try italian roast then... |
| 15:21.06 | asg | dan2: no, but I did spend some time in Southern France and Spain. |
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| 15:21.16 | JimButton | asg: coffee at a truckstop? |
| 15:21.25 | dan2 | asg: Europeans can't make coffee period. |
| 15:21.29 | asg | JimButton: yes, to keep them awake; revolting stuff. |
| 15:21.31 | JimButton | dan2: lol |
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| 15:21.38 | asg | dan2: they do a much better job than we do here. |
| 15:21.44 | JimButton | dan2: you, sir, don't know what you are talking about |
| 15:21.45 | dan2 | asg: Coffee was invented here |
| 15:21.48 | thomas_adam | Whats a TruckStop? is it like the dingy caravans one sees on the M1 selling burgers and the like? |
| 15:21.50 | dan2 | ;) |
| 15:21.51 | JimButton | dan2: not in north america |
| 15:21.59 | g4lt | asg I find that tough to believe, since coffee is native to the Americas.... |
| 15:22.00 | eruin | perhaps my memory is playing tricks on me, but didn't there use to be a windows ttf-font .deb? |
| 15:22.06 | `RaSh | omg! |
| 15:22.07 | `RaSh | lol |
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| 15:22.11 | asg | thomas_adam: a place to fuel up lorries on long hauls |
| 15:22.11 | abrotman | thomas_adam: places where truckers congregate .. |
| 15:22.12 | dan2 | JimButton: well, it became popular here in up in the NorthEast because of Boston Tea Party |
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| 15:22.18 | JimButton | asg: amtrak coffee is one of the most digusting beverages on the planet... |
| 15:22.20 | thomas_adam | eruin: mscorefonts |
| 15:22.27 | eruin | thomas_adam, cheers ;) |
| 15:22.29 | dan2 | asg: come northeast and go to california, the coffee is superb |
| 15:22.35 | corr | eruin i think there was a deb with a tool that downloaded and installed them, but they are no longer available for download so i think it got pulled |
| 15:22.38 | thomas_adam | eruin: Only in non-free contrib though. |
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| 15:22.45 | asg | g4lt: it is, I've just found better taste and consistency there (though my experience here is only NY and points south) |
| 15:22.49 | dan2 | asg: you southerners can't even make pizza properly ;0 |
| 15:22.52 | dan2 | ;) |
| 15:22.54 | cafuego | dan2: After having had coffee in north america, I can honestly attest to the fact that what you call 'coffee' is in fact 'slightly stronger than average tea' |
| 15:22.56 | JimButton | dan2: coffee culture in italy or spain is just much older than in the US |
| 15:23.05 | JimButton | dan2: and in france of course |
| 15:23.09 | JimButton | dan2: and it shows... |
| 15:23.10 | sussudio | trying to figure out why anyone would voluntarily *download* episodes of "Hope & Faith" will result in an anyeurism. |
| 15:23.17 | cafuego | dan2: coffee is from north africa and arabia |
| 15:23.19 | asg | dan2: I make some very impressive Cali style pizzas here at home. |
| 15:23.22 | abrotman | dan2: and they dont have cheesesteaks :) |
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| 15:23.23 | mike | in RH9 there is a file called rc.local, it run after everything else, does this exisit in debian? |
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| 15:23.31 | dan2 | asg: keywords 'at home' |
| 15:23.33 | asg | dan2: I prefer more than just soggy cheese on my pies matey |
| 15:23.35 | corr | doesnt hope & faith have two hot girls in it |
| 15:23.35 | abrotman | mike: make it |
| 15:23.48 | mike | abrotman: if I make it will it run? |
| 15:23.51 | abrotman | mike: make your own script in init.d .. ln -s to the dirs you want |
| 15:23.52 | asg | corr: /j #hottub |
| 15:23.52 | dan2 | asg: I am surrounded by decent pizzarias |
| 15:23.58 | cafuego | dan2: After the dutch smuggled a plant out of arabia, and planted their own in indonesia, it started (slowly) becoming popular in europe. |
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| 15:24.12 | JimButton | dan2: most of the pizza in the US just blows |
| 15:24.14 | asg | dan2: then you are lucky. I have a few specialty ones around but not enough. |
| 15:24.22 | dan2 | JimButton: nah, if they use Grande cheese, you know its good |
| 15:24.27 | corr | asg it is empty |
| 15:24.32 | JimButton | dan2: what is Grande cheese? |
| 15:24.40 | cafuego | JimButton: US Plastic |
| 15:24.45 | asg | corr: then pleasure yourself until someone shows up for you to talk to. |
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| 15:24.58 | abrotman | cheesesteaks! |
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| 15:25.00 | JimButton | dan2: i think the only good italian restaurant i have been to in the states was in new york city, and it was completely run by italians |
| 15:25.09 | JimButton | dan2: and it was not cheap either |
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| 15:25.21 | corr | asg: it's not my fault nobody will talk to me. |
| 15:25.24 | cafuego | JimButton: pizza is actually from france, originally. |
| 15:25.39 | dan2 | JimButton: its the best cheese, you can only get it in northeast. As an agreement with Grande cheese company, they have to put an advertisement for Grande cheese in their pizzarias |
| 15:25.39 | JimButton | cafuego: of course i did not eat pizza in that italian restaurant :) |
| 15:25.46 | dan2 | JimButton: its easy to tell |
| 15:25.59 | sussudio | corr: i would hardly call a 40 year old hag a girl |
| 15:26.04 | JimButton | dan2: have you ever been to a real cheese shop? |
| 15:26.05 | dan2 | JimButton: all of the decent local pizzarias use it |
| 15:26.09 | dan2 | JimButton: sure |
| 15:26.15 | cafuego | JimButton: nah, I find the spaghetti carbonara to be an excellent indicator of chef's prowess when eating at a new venue |
| 15:26.26 | bullseye | asg: and what am i supose to do whit hdparm i have read the man pages ??? |
| 15:26.27 | dash | having a weird problem with gdm; it starts up X and then displays the wristwatch cursor indefinitely, no login window. purged and reinstalled it to no effect. also gdm is continuously using about 15% CPU |
| 15:26.29 | corr | sussudio she looked cute in the promo picture i saw, hag or not |
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| 15:26.32 | dash | anybody seen this before? |
| 15:26.32 | abrotman | JimButton: ive been to cheese shops in WI .. wierd places |
| 15:26.36 | JimButton | cafuego: i forgot the name of the dish, but it was thinly sliced beef things |
| 15:26.40 | g4lt | cafuego bah, meatloaf is what proves the chef |
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| 15:26.41 | dash | bullseye: be very very careful ;D |
| 15:26.42 | JimButton | cafuego: and it was delicious |
| 15:26.44 | nkuttler | bullseye: /msg dpkg hdparm |
| 15:26.47 | dan2 | asg: roast your own coffee beans, you can make much better coffee |
| 15:26.56 | cafuego | dan2: Sorry mate, but a real pizza contains fresh mozarella, not "manufactured" cheese. |
| 15:26.56 | abrotman | rodizio! |
| 15:26.56 | ries | abrotman: I'm not sure if you have seen my messages...but make-kpkg works fine :) |
| 15:26.57 | JimButton | abrotman: heh :) |
| 15:27.06 | abrotman | ries: good |
| 15:27.14 | dan2 | cafuego: I can send you a pound of my home-roasted coffee. Tis be good :) |
| 15:27.19 | abrotman | JimButton: but .. damn . they make good cheese .. not like that Grande shit |
| 15:27.23 | X-Ray5 | Hey all i'm working on making a home stero/computer and i'm running deb. Does anyone have any info on this? right now i'm using mpg321 and alsa driver (all are controable from ssh) any ideas? |
| 15:27.33 | cafuego | dan2: I buy my coffee from the roastery here, run by 3 italian families. |
| 15:27.36 | dash | X-Ray5: fun |
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| 15:27.46 | dan2 | cafuego: suit yourself |
| 15:27.46 | abrotman | dan2: a great coffee shop on .. 17th and spruce(or so says my sister) |
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| 15:28.06 | dan2 | cafuego: I have two workaholic parents, who drink coffee every hour of the day |
| 15:28.11 | cafuego | dan2: And remember, I'm dutch, I _KNOW_ about cheese ;-) |
| 15:28.16 | dan2 | cafuego: hehe |
| 15:28.18 | JimButton | abrotman: i have been to a conference in france, and a wine tasting, and over that week i had so much and so good cheese that it won't compare to anything here :) |
| 15:28.20 | X-Ray5 | dash: any ideas? |
| 15:28.20 | corr | is it safe to --purge remove gcc-2.95 on sarge? |
| 15:28.22 | dan2 | cafuego: I thought you were australian |
| 15:28.25 | dan2 | ? |
| 15:28.28 | dash | X-Ray5: one thing i've enjoyed playing with is imms, an adaptive playlist plugin for xmms |
| 15:28.32 | cafuego | dan2: Yeah, I am a workaholic parent, except I have cats, not kids. |
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| 15:28.41 | cafuego | dan2: Nooooo, I just live here. |
| 15:28.45 | g4lt | X-Ray5 xmms is also controllable from ssh, either via tunneling or via plugin |
| 15:28.47 | X-Ray5 | http://www.dysan.net/Hotwire/mp3-stereo.php |
| 15:28.48 | asg | bullseye: the options for enabling 32 bit io and dma usually provide the best and safest results. |
| 15:28.50 | dash | X-Ray5: it plays songs you like more and songs you don't like less |
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| 15:29.06 | sussudio | dan2: you're shitting in it? |
| 15:29.06 | leOn | is there any journaling fs supporting any kind of undelete ? |
| 15:29.06 | dash | X-Ray5: (which it determines by whether you skip it, or pick it explicitly, or just let it play) |
| 15:29.10 | asg | bullseye: use hdparm -tT /dev/hdXY to test your current IO rates; make tweaks and test again. |
| 15:29.30 | JimButton | dan2: also, most of the american pizzas have a much too thick dough |
| 15:29.41 | dan2 | JimButton: I like all styles of pizza |
| 15:29.41 | asg | bullseye: alternately, if that doesn't help, you might want to look at low-latency scheduling patches and preemtive patches. |
| 15:29.42 | dash | leOn: nah, journalling is usually for metadata, at least in mainstream linux FSes |
| 15:30.06 | X-Ray5 | http://rdtj.sourceforge.net/ |
| 15:30.07 | cafuego | JimButton: Best pizza I ever had was a calzone with porcini, truffles and mozarella di buffalo in Florence, though. |
| 15:30.07 | dan2 | JimButton: chicago style is good for certain occasions, for the most part I eat new york style |
| 15:30.09 | X-Ray5 | looks sweet |
| 15:30.18 | JimButton | cafuego: ok, i can't beat that :) |
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| 15:30.24 | bodq | hello |
| 15:30.27 | dan2 | cafuego: the definition of pizza != calzone |
| 15:30.28 | cafuego | <heh> |
| 15:30.42 | dan2 | !+dict pizza |
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| 15:30.45 | leOn | =) |
| 15:30.45 | JimButton | dan2: calzone is one particular type of pizza |
| 15:30.48 | bodq | I seem to have problems building nvidia-kernel-source after I build my custom kernel |
| 15:30.49 | dash | bah! calzones are just pizzas folded in half |
| 15:30.50 | cafuego | dan2: Sorry, but you have zero credibility at the moment after promoting factory cheese. |
| 15:30.52 | paquin | cafuego: buffalo or bufala ? |
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| 15:31.02 | keta | bufala |
| 15:31.04 | dpkg | Dictionary 'pizza' Italian open pie made of thin bread dough spread with a spiced mixture of e.g. tomato sauce and cheese |
| 15:31.04 | asg | cafuego: sounds good, my fav was a a thin crust with olive tapenade, sundried tomatoes, spinach, and feta cheese (with added smoked bacon and onion rings :) |
| 15:31.11 | cafuego | paquin: bufala I would hazard |
| 15:31.16 | dan2 | cafuego: open pie, nuff said |
| 15:31.22 | corr | the best pizza i ever had was a Tony's boxed pizza. 20 minutes at 425 degrees mmmm piping hot, way better than any other pizza, and only 4.99 at albertsons |
| 15:31.26 | bullseye | asg: is it hdparm -d /dev/hda |
| 15:31.33 | dash | cheap is good |
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| 15:31.40 | cafuego | asg: Make that smoked salmon instead of bacon... |
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| 15:31.48 | paquin | cafuego: :-) (mozzarella's bufala come from Salerno, near Naples....) :-) |
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| 15:31.56 | asg | bullseye: /sbin/hdparm -a1 -A1 -c1 -d1 -m16 /dev/hda <--- is what I use. |
| 15:32.01 | CrippsFX | okay.....how can I completely remove ALL traces of apache and php so that I can start over clean? |
| 15:32.05 | asg | cafuego: that wouldn't be bad either, true. |
| 15:32.24 | cafuego | paquin: I got driven around by a three guys from firenze who all spoke english, so i never got to practice italian at all. |
| 15:32.27 | dan2 | asg: what do you need to use hdparm for? |
| 15:32.33 | asg | CrippsFX: dpkg -l | egrep 'apache|php' (remove what it returns) |
| 15:32.37 | cafuego | !flexitarian |
| 15:32.45 | CrippsFX | thnx asg |
| 15:32.46 | dpkg | "Flexitarian", n. Any person who follows a vegetarian diet, but is flexible enough to eat the occasional fish or meat dish. |
| 15:32.46 | asg | dan2: get a little more speed out of this frightfully slow laptop drive. |
| 15:32.48 | cafuego | asg: I'm the seafood one |
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| 15:33.06 | dan2 | asg: oh, 2.6 automatically handle dma for me :) |
| 15:33.06 | asg | cafuego: yeah, I'm a big fan of fish, though not much of shellfish |
| 15:33.19 | dash | so nobody seen this kind of gdm problem before? oh well :) |
| 15:33.30 | paquin | cafuego: I like too pizza, 4 season with mais instead of porcini :-) |
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| 15:33.43 | asg | dash: maybe the one mentioned in the /topic |
| 15:33.49 | abrotman | dash: ? |
| 15:33.54 | cafuego | paquin: if we had real porcini here i'd eat them every day... |
| 15:34.00 | keta | dash: did you try mdetect? |
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| 15:34.08 | cafuego | asg: I've been playing catch-up since. |
| 15:34.19 | cafuego | asg: Weirdest sofar: Moreton Bay Bug |
| 15:34.22 | asg | cafuego: :) cool. I'm partial to calamari also. |
| 15:34.23 | streuner_ | mdetect is crap, never worked for me :-/ |
| 15:34.28 | dash | keta: hmm, it's not an X problem, X starts up fine. isn't mdetect just a hardware-detecty thing? |
| 15:34.29 | paquin | cafuego: we're not in season for fresh porcini... may be in september or so... |
| 15:34.37 | cafuego | calamari with chilli mayo? |
| 15:34.42 | bullseye | asg: ok i did get 15mb more timing buffered-disk reads |
| 15:34.44 | cafuego | paquin: Never in australia :-( |
| 15:34.50 | asg | cafuego: I like it with a little pepper and lemon juice. |
| 15:34.53 | cafuego | asg: http://www.dpi.qld.gov.au/fishweb/2548.html |
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| 15:34.57 | abrotman | cafuego: chipotle? |
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| 15:35.25 | cafuego | abrotman: eh? |
| 15:35.30 | asg | cafuego: nasty looking little bugger isn't it :) |
| 15:35.33 | abrotman | cafuego: chilli mayo? |
| 15:35.37 | abrotman | chipotle? |
| 15:35.42 | cafuego | asg: tastes better then it look ;-) |
| 15:35.44 | dash | Hmmm, #241184 isn't the one i'm seeing |
| 15:35.47 | cafuego | abrotman: eh? |
| 15:35.48 | abrotman | !dict chipotle |
| 15:35.49 | asg | cafuego: most things usually do :) |
| 15:35.50 | dpkg | Dictionary 'chipotle' a ripe jalapeno that has been dried for use in cooking |
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| 15:36.00 | asg | dash: anything else in the bts? if not, file a bug |
| 15:36.10 | abrotman | cafuego: many places use chipotle mayo |
| 15:36.11 | cafuego | abrotman: No, fresh, chopped finely |
| 15:36.19 | dash | asg: well, i'd like to understand why it's doing it first :) |
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| 15:36.33 | dash | strace wasn't exactly helpful, but i guess i'll dig more |
| 15:36.37 | asg | dash: ah, okay. Maybe #debian-gnome on irc.gnome.org has more info. |
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| 15:36.52 | dash | oh, duh |
| 15:36.52 | abrotman | asg: dash: #gnome-debian on irc.gnome.org |
| 15:37.01 | dash | i'm using the gdm deb from experimental |
| 15:37.06 | cafuego | and on that note I'm pissing off to bed |
| 15:37.07 | dash | of /course/ it doesn't work. |
| 15:37.10 | asg | abrotman: *nod* |
| 15:37.11 | dan2 | asg: can I do that while the drive is mounted |
| 15:37.12 | dash | sorry to bother you guys :D |
| 15:37.13 | asg | cafuego: night |
| 15:37.18 | dash | asg: Thanks. |
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| 15:37.26 | asg | dan2: hdparm stuff? yes. |
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| 15:37.39 | asg | dan2: just don't use the 'DANGEROUS' options without knowing what you are doing. |
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| 15:37.56 | CrippsFX | asg: i have a list, but it won't remove them for me....should I go through and 'rm -R <egrep 'apache|php' ' ? |
| 15:38.13 | ZEA | I needed some compile time changes too a package (libfreetype6) to include hinting in true type fonts. What is the recomended way of installing it now? (and what is the correct way of installing any altered apt-get source <package> for that matter?) |
| 15:38.14 | asg | CrippsFX: no, use apt-get remove --purge 'list of packages' |
| 15:38.15 | CrippsFX | er...didn't mean to put the '<' there |
| 15:38.28 | CrippsFX | asg: problem with apache...self compiled. |
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| 15:38.40 | abrotman | CrippsFX: well now your fscked |
| 15:38.44 | abrotman | you're |
| 15:38.50 | asg | CrippsFX: cd /source/tree ; make uninstall |
| 15:39.05 | asg | CrippsFX: if you installed it in /usr/local or /opt, though, just delete the directories. |
| 15:39.14 | CrippsFX | asg: wonderful :) ...why didn't I think of that? |
| 15:39.28 | CrippsFX | I did it in /usr/apache |
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| 15:39.45 | dan2 | asg: hah |
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| 15:39.47 | asg | CrippsFX: then just remove that (in the future, make sure you put self-compiled code in /usr/local or /opt |
| 15:39.54 | ZEA | unfortunatly not all Makefiles have an 'uninstall' in it :\ |
| 15:39.55 | dan2 | asg: I wouldn't even have touched hdparm |
| 15:40.12 | asg | dan2: :) |
| 15:40.17 | CrippsFX | asg: aiight. |
| 15:40.22 | bodq | jjj |
| 15:40.40 | bodq | my nvidia-kernel module doesn't work. It loads fine, but X still says "Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module!" |
| 15:40.50 | asg | bodq: modprobe NVdriver |
| 15:40.53 | corr | gee, i wonder why |
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| 15:41.40 | bodq | asg: such module doesn't exist. "modprobe nvidia", though, works. but X doesn't |
| 15:42.08 | asg | bodq: oh, hmmm. I don't know then; I'm sorry. |
| 15:42.17 | concu | hey people, when can't boot up to debian it says Loading LinuxEGDA is big, kernel setup stack overlaps lilo second stage |
| 15:42.29 | saloxin_ | bodq: does /dev/nvidia0 and nvidiactl exist? |
| 15:42.36 | concu | what i need to do with that |
| 15:42.56 | asg | on the note of food, I'm off to lunch |
| 15:42.57 | streuner_ | concu: what does 'dpkg -l libc6' say? |
| 15:43.04 | streuner_ | have fun |
| 15:43.06 | CrippsFX | cheers asg |
| 15:43.27 | bodq | saloxin_: yes |
| 15:43.44 | saloxin_ | bodq: mode 0666 ? |
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| 15:43.49 | bodq | saloxin_: it worked when I used 2.4.25 and debian nvidia-kernel packages |
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| 15:43.53 | concu | streuner_: i don't have install if i do dpkg -l libc6 i need to exit irssi |
| 15:44.00 | concu | i need to reinstall libc6? |
| 15:44.07 | bodq | saloxin_: yes, all "rw-" |
| 15:44.12 | concu | i don't have X installed |
| 15:44.22 | saloxin_ | bodq: what kernel are you on now? |
| 15:44.36 | streuner_ | concu: no - libc6 are libs you need for almost everything in linux |
| 15:44.39 | bodq | saloxin_: 2.4.26 with epcam module patch |
| 15:44.43 | concu | oh |
| 15:44.45 | streuner_ | !info libc6 |
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| 15:44.50 | dpkg | libc6: (GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data), section base, is required. Version: 2.3.2.ds1-12 (sid), Packaged size: 4787 kB, Installed size: 15488 kB |
| 15:44.57 | concu | oh |
| 15:45.06 | concu | if i don't have it |
| 15:45.14 | saloxin_ | bodq: ok, I don't know then :( |
| 15:45.15 | concu | how do i install it? apt-get install libc6? |
| 15:45.17 | streuner_ | concu: i saw this error only ones with an old version of lilo... |
| 15:45.24 | dan2 | hmm |
| 15:45.27 | concu | oh |
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| 15:45.29 | concu | i see |
| 15:45.30 | dan2 | zsh has relatively good regex support |
| 15:45.33 | CrippsFX | concu: apt-get install build-essential |
| 15:45.39 | concu | ok |
| 15:45.45 | concu | i'll try that brb |
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| 15:45.57 | streuner_ | concu: you have libc6 installed, otherwise irssi-text wouldn't run at all... |
| 15:46.05 | bodq | saloxin_: :( |
| 15:46.13 | concu | oh |
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| 15:46.16 | saloxin_ | bodq: try #nvidia |
| 15:46.26 | bodq | saloxin_: I am trying |
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| 15:46.49 | streuner_ | concu: try irc.oftn.net #kernelnewbies |
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| 15:47.54 | saloxin_ | CrippsFX: find / -name "*apache*", and make some coffe |
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| 15:48.13 | CrippsFX | saloxin_: lemme guess...manually remove every file? |
| 15:48.19 | whoamit | @test |
| 15:48.27 | ravenbird | No, whoamit, you're not online any more. |
| 15:48.33 | gilgamesh | hi |
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| 15:48.41 | saloxin_ | CrippsFX: just a find job - to figure out where your apache files ended up |
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| 15:49.01 | whoamit | @xconfig |
| 15:49.01 | ravenbird | somebody said xconfig was apt-get install tk8.3 |
| 15:49.02 | saloxin_ | CrippsFX: but it is more of a joke, since it will take _forever_ |
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| 15:49.15 | CrippsFX | saloxin_: didn't take as long as you thought :P |
| 15:49.25 | CrippsFX | ...but coffee is nice anyways...I think I'll go get one. |
| 15:49.26 | whoamit | I cant get a msg reply from any of the bots.. *shrug* |
| 15:49.38 | g4lt | @info xconfig |
| 15:49.52 | g4lt | grr |
| 15:49.56 | g4lt | @factinfo xconfig |
| 15:49.56 | ravenbird | xconfig -- created by za <~za@m568-mp1.cvx1-c.lee.dial.ntli.net> at Fri Jul 5 16:06:58 2002 (673 days); it has been requested once, last by whoamit, 56s ago. |
| 15:50.14 | streuner_ | the factoid is old.. |
| 15:50.18 | g4lt | !xconfig |
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| 15:51.00 | streuner_ | ~xconfig |
| 15:51.03 | apt | methinks xconfig is apt-get install tk8.3 |
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| 15:51.07 | gilgamesh | anyone here use mldonkey? |
| 15:51.17 | dumitru | hi! I'm trying to install gnome-themes-extras vioa synaptic and when I try to Apply the changes it reports that some packets cannot be installed (have unmet dependencies), I've tried to install them separately with apt-get install but another depedencies are not satisfied and so on, how could I fix this? |
| 15:51.44 | saloxin_ | dumitru: apt-get -f install |
| 15:51.46 | dpkg | xconfig is probably apt-get install tk8.3 |
| 15:52.05 | g4lt | GAAAAAH! |
| 15:52.21 | streuner_ | g4lt: should be libqt-dev, IIRC |
| 15:52.25 | g4lt | doesn't xconfig need kde now |
| 15:52.29 | caphuso | g4lt: no |
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| 15:53.11 | g4lt | caphuso would you do the honors, sinc ht last time I ran make xconfig, that factoid WAS accurate? ;) |
| 15:53.19 | CrippsFX | hm...weak coffee.... |
| 15:53.43 | dumitru | saloxin_: I've tried that, it said 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 209 not upgraded but whne I try to install gnome-themes-extras, I get again the same error, any idea? |
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| 15:53.50 | caphuso | g4lt: just add that you need to install libqt-dev when using a 2.6 kernel, or use "make gconfig" if you prefer gtk over qt |
| 15:53.59 | saloxin_ | dumitru: broken package? |
| 15:54.18 | saloxin_ | dumitru: if it's an official debian pkg, check bugs.debian.org |
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| 15:54.35 | streuner_ | !no, xconfig is apt-get install libqt-dev |
| 15:54.43 | caphuso | streuner_: nah |
| 15:54.50 | dumitru | saloxin_: I don't know, I suspect some error in my configurations; I use woody and in sources.list I have selected to install packages from unstable, is that ok? |
| 15:54.51 | caphuso | 2.4 xconfig still needs tk |
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| 15:55.00 | saloxin_ | dumitru: nope. |
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| 15:55.11 | g4lt | dpkg no, xconfig is for kernels in hte 2.4 series an earlier, apt-get install tk8.3 |
| 15:55.11 | CrippsFX | saloxin_: well....it found them. |
| 15:55.12 | dpkg | okay, g4lt |
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| 15:55.25 | concu | hey thanks people |
| 15:55.27 | saloxin_ | dumitru: either go all the way to testing or sid, or find backports of the stuff you want (apt-get.org) |
| 15:55.28 | eruin | anyone know of an ogg->mp3 converter? |
| 15:55.29 | concu | it worked |
| 15:55.35 | caphuso | eruin: stupid idea |
| 15:55.38 | eruin | and I'm sorry about the blasphemy |
| 15:55.41 | eruin | but I need it ;) |
| 15:55.43 | streuner_ | g4lt: you still need libqt3-dev? |
| 15:55.43 | g4lt | dpkg xconfig is also for 2.6 and newer kernels, apt-get install libqt-dev |
| 15:55.44 | dpkg | g4lt: okay |
| 15:56.02 | corr | eruin bad idea. |
| 15:56.11 | streuner_ | !xconfig |
| 15:56.12 | dpkg | i heard xconfig is for kernels in hte 2.4 series an earlier, apt-get install tk8.3, or for 2.6 and newer kernels, apt-get install libqt-dev |
| 15:56.17 | CrippsFX | saloxin_: so now do I just go delete everything manually? |
| 15:56.18 | g4lt | dpkg xconfig is also for GNOME-heads, see gconfig |
| 15:56.19 | dpkg | okay, g4lt |
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| 15:56.28 | g4lt | @forget xconfig |
| 15:56.29 | ravenbird | g4lt: i forgot xconfig |
| 15:56.32 | dumitru | saloxin_: many thanks, I'll try that! |
| 15:56.33 | eruin | my mp3player can only play mp3, so it's actually a splendid solution until I can get an iPod ;P |
| 15:56.42 | g4lt | apt forget xconfig |
| 15:56.42 | apt | g4lt: i forgot xconfig |
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| 15:56.48 | g4lt | @xconfig? |
| 15:56.55 | saloxin_ | CrippsFX: if the list of stuff found is what you want to remove, then add -exec {} \; to the find job - at your own risk |
| 15:56.58 | g4lt | @xconfig |
| 15:56.58 | ravenbird | somebody said xconfig was for kernels in hte 2.4 series an earlier, apt-get install tk8.3, or for 2.6 and newer kernels, apt-get install libqt-dev, or for GNOME-heads, see gconfig |
| 15:57.03 | caphuso | eruin: then encode the original to mp3 |
| 15:57.04 | corr | eruin if by splendid, you mean ravaging the files' quality, then yes |
| 15:57.06 | g4lt | GAH |
| 15:57.06 | saloxin_ | CrippsFX: -exec rm{}\; |
| 15:57.09 | gahan | :P |
| 15:57.13 | CrippsFX | saloxin_: at my own risk? |
| 15:57.38 | saloxin_ | yup. don't blame me ;-) |
| 15:57.55 | CrippsFX | what could happen...just fuck up my entire system? |
| 15:57.56 | g4lt | apt xconfig? |
| 15:57.59 | apt | no idea, g4lt |
| 15:58.03 | g4lt | shit |
| 15:58.29 | dindin | will debian include xorg in repalcement of xfree4.3.x ? |
| 15:58.46 | streuner_ | !x.org |
| 15:58.47 | dpkg | i heard x.org is <daniels> x.org won't make it into sid for at least a while, possibly ever. right now we're working on making the modular tree (fd.o) actually work and be useful with the xfree86/xorg drivers, and that's where debian is probably going. |
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| 15:59.05 | saloxin_ | CrippsFX: it will delete all files that "find" finds... |
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| 15:59.26 | CrippsFX | saloxin_: so in other words...it's possible ;) |
| 15:59.26 | dindin | streuner_: thanks |
| 15:59.36 | saloxin_ | CrippsFX: yup |
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| 15:59.40 | comet_11 | hmm |
| 15:59.48 | CrippsFX | saloxin_: o well..an excuse to upgrade to Debian 3.1 :) |
| 16:00.03 | gilgamesh | umm, in debian, where is rc.inetd or a script from which I may restart inetd? I dunno how to do this in debian. |
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| 16:00.13 | comet_11 | how would I turn a 1.44 floppy into a 2.88 floppy with 1.44mb free space? |
| 16:00.15 | saloxin_ | gilgamesh: killall -HUP inetd |
| 16:00.18 | g4lt | cafuego like this? |
| 16:00.20 | corr | when i finish upgrading to testing, maybe i should change issue to not say 3.0 anymore since it technically wont be |
| 16:00.24 | g4lt | !xconfig |
| 16:00.24 | dpkg | hmm... xconfig is for kernels in the 2.4 series and earlier, apt-get install tk8.3, or for 2.6 and newer kernels, apt-get install libqt-dev, or for GNOME-heads, see gconfig |
| 16:00.28 | saloxin_ | gilgamesh: or /etc/init.d/inetd restart |
| 16:01.20 | LSorensen | comet_11: do you have a 2.88mb floppy? |
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| 16:01.32 | eruin | !gconfig |
| 16:01.41 | comet_11 | I can fake one, so let's say yes |
| 16:01.50 | pulaski | hello, I run woody and I'm trying to configure procmail for the first time. I have a newly created file ~/procmailrc. How can I verify that exim knows that file is there and runs it on mails as they come to my /var/mail/username? |
| 16:01.53 | CrippsFX | saloxin_: it doesn't like me..what's the format for the whole fin&delete command? |
| 16:01.56 | g4lt | eruin thanks for catching that.... |
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| 16:02.06 | eruin | ;> |
| 16:02.12 | ribnitz | heyas |
| 16:02.16 | g4lt | cafuego what do you need for gconfig? |
| 16:02.16 | saloxin_ | find . -name "*apache*" -exec rm {} \; |
| 16:02.23 | CrippsFX | thnx |
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| 16:02.27 | ribnitz | I still have this strange kernel problem of mine. |
| 16:02.35 | g4lt | apt gconfig |
| 16:02.38 | apt | A router configuration tool. URL: http://www.employees.org/~stannous/gconfig.html |
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| 16:02.38 | saloxin_ | CrippsFX: replace the . with the top dir |
| 16:02.44 | CrippsFX | ahh |
| 16:02.49 | g4lt | shit |
| 16:03.29 | CrippsFX | saloxin_: "missing argument to -exec" |
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| 16:03.57 | saloxin_ | CrippsFX: does the find job find anything? (try without the -exec part) |
| 16:03.58 | LSorensen | comet_11: have you looked at the imagefs package |
| 16:04.03 | X-Ray5 | hey all sorry for the bumb question but is it possible to download perl modules from apt? |
| 16:04.07 | CrippsFX | saloxin_: yep. |
| 16:04.10 | X-Ray5 | or do i have to use CPAN? |
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| 16:04.26 | LSorensen | X-Ray5: many perl modules are in debian as blah-perl packages |
| 16:04.26 | saloxin_ | CrippsFX: hrmpf. find bla | xargs rm is a workaround |
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| 16:04.34 | eruin | anyone using totem here? specifically to play divx ? |
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| 16:04.38 | LSorensen | X-Ray5: there is also a package that lets you convert a cpan download to a .deb in one step |
| 16:04.47 | LSorensen | eruin: I like mplayer |
| 16:04.50 | X-Ray5 | wow cool |
| 16:04.53 | ribnitz | Setup: Root ext3, some xfs partitions, hence a self compiled 2.4.25 (with ext3 and xfs in kernel mainly). However, if I try to replace this kernel with a new (stock-debian) one, I get a kernel panic (on trying to write to /dev/null), or reading /dev/conosole. I use devfs. Ideas, hints, comments? |
| 16:04.59 | bodq | eurin, totem, the xine clone? |
| 16:05.01 | eruin | LSorensen: is mplayer gtk? |
| 16:05.07 | MrKeuner | hi, is it possible to tell apt-get to rewind to an earlier date if we failed to get a list of upgraded packages? |
| 16:05.07 | eruin | bodq: ye |
| 16:05.15 | X-Ray5 | b/c i need to get |
| 16:05.16 | LSorensen | eruin: I think there is a gtk option for it |
| 16:05.20 | X-Ray5 | oops |
| 16:05.20 | eruin | oooh |
| 16:05.32 | g4lt | eruin there is a gtk-based mplayer, but it's openmotif by definition |
| 16:05.41 | saloxin_ | ribnitz: I got that one too, with ext3 root filesystem. seems like initrd lacks some modules orso. |
| 16:05.48 | LSorensen | eruin: lumiere - A GNOME frontend to mplayer |
| 16:05.52 | eruin | elaborate openmotif, eruin is a linux newbie |
| 16:05.54 | X-Ray5 | i need to get... DBI, DBD::mysql, Getopt::Long, MP3::Info |
| 16:05.55 | eruin | ;P |
| 16:06.01 | CrippsFX | saloxin_: well..they're all gone now...and I haven't crashed yet |
| 16:06.03 | saloxin_ | ribnitz: 2.6.5-1.686? |
| 16:06.05 | g4lt | eruin do some searching on marillat's apt source |
| 16:06.08 | LSorensen | X-Ray5: apt-cache search dbi|grep perl |
| 16:06.12 | saloxin_ | CrippsFX: coolio |
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| 16:06.18 | g4lt | eruin basic X widget set |
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| 16:06.28 | ribnitz | saloxin_: tried with 2.4.26-1-686, and 2.6.5-1-686 |
| 16:06.32 | LSorensen | X-Ray5: apt-cache search mysql |grep perl |
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| 16:06.35 | eruin | g4lt, aka not pretty, eh |
| 16:06.40 | zumbi | how could i erase this "file": c--------x 512 64 256 0, 0 1970-07-14 05:46 chrome ?? |
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| 16:06.50 | X-Ray5 | LSorense: a very long list lol |
| 16:06.52 | eruin | LSorensen, I'll have to track that, thanks ;) |
| 16:06.53 | ribnitz | saloxin_: but ext3 is mounted fine. |
| 16:06.54 | Dr_Willis | rm -- filename |
| 16:06.54 | saloxin_ | ribnitz: scary.. I ended up with selfcompiling again |
| 16:06.55 | CrippsFX | saloxin_: we'll see if inaything is left (dpkg -l <blah>) and then restart to find out how bad she is ;) |
| 16:07.04 | LSorensen | X-Ray5: anything look like what you want? |
| 16:07.12 | Dr_Willis | or rm "file --name-with0-funystuff" |
| 16:07.15 | ribnitz | saloxin_: Thats what I'll do as well, using kernel-package. |
| 16:07.19 | g4lt | zumbi as root chmod o+w then rm |
| 16:07.21 | LSorensen | X-Ray5: like libdbd-mysql-perl |
| 16:07.39 | Dr_Willis | or am i confused.. whats the filename? :P its not "c-------x" lol. :P |
| 16:07.39 | saloxin_ | ribnitz: I looked for bugreports, but didn't figure out which package that deserved it :( |
| 16:07.40 | X-Ray5 | yes libapache-dbi-perl I guess |
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| 16:08.00 | CrippsFX | saloxin_: dpkg -l |egrep 'apache|php' still brings up 5 packages :S |
| 16:08.01 | g4lt | Dr_Willis that's the permissions... |
| 16:08.05 | zumbi | g4lt, can't chmod to the file .. |
| 16:08.05 | ribnitz | saloxin_: I think you should bugreport the kernel-image. |
| 16:08.06 | mateusz | Hi, Do you know any P2P Lan Messager ?? |
| 16:08.08 | mateusz | Hi, Do you know any P2P Lan Messager ?? |
| 16:08.19 | ribnitz | mateusz: talk? |
| 16:08.25 | abrotman | !tell mateusz about repeat |
| 16:08.27 | Dr_Willis | mateusz, perhaps go get jabber server. |
| 16:08.27 | corr_ | STFU, die, plz k thx bye |
| 16:08.40 | g4lt | zumbi root can chmod anything |
| 16:08.43 | ribnitz | corr_: welcome ! |
| 16:08.51 | saloxin_ | CrippsFX: apt-gte remove packagename ? |
| 16:08.52 | abrotman | g4lt: anything? .. can it chmod my ass? |
| 16:08.52 | mateusz | ribnitz: p2p ? |
| 16:08.56 | saloxin_ | s/gte/get |
| 16:08.58 | corr_ | ribnitz :D |
| 16:09.02 | mateusz | ribnitz: and portable on windows |
| 16:09.03 | zumbi | g4lt, no, this can't |
| 16:09.05 | CrippsFX | saloxin_: it says there's nothing to remove. |
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| 16:09.12 | g4lt | abrotman if it's in your directory, yes |
| 16:09.19 | saloxin_ | CrippsFX: paste the packages in #flood |
| 16:09.29 | mateusz | Dr_Willis: But it's client/server |
| 16:09.30 | CrippsFX | saloxin_ kk. |
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| 16:09.33 | CrippsFX | gimme a min |
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| 16:09.41 | zumbi | g4lt, c--------x unbuffered char file |
| 16:09.45 | g4lt | zumbi does the filename have leading blanks? |
| 16:09.50 | mateusz | Dr_Willis: I have LAN but don't want to setup a chat server... |
| 16:10.03 | borius | weird... last time i installed debian i used a module called ne2k-pci i think... now its on the mini cd... it's the exact same mini cd i used last year |
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| 16:10.16 | borius | so my server box is frelled until i find that driver |
| 16:10.24 | matteorox | someone can help me how to don't start automatically x at start? |
| 16:10.25 | Dr_Willis | mateusz, go check freshmeat.net then I guess. |
| 16:10.32 | zumbi | what's that ? |
| 16:10.34 | g4lt | zumbi I've chmod -R'd /dev before, YOU CAN chmod device files |
| 16:10.39 | mateusz | Dr_Willis: checked |
| 16:10.42 | streuner_ | matteorox: /msg dpkg nodm |
| 16:10.43 | corr_ | a porn site |
| 16:10.46 | matteorox | i know there is initrc to set up, but for me seems to be ok |
| 16:10.48 | CrippsFX | !nodm |
| 16:10.48 | dpkg | Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the dm package(s) with "apt-get remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm pdm". "update-rc.d -f xdm remove" and friends will also disable the dm until a package update is installed and the runlevel symlinks are restored.. NEWSFLASH! echo "false" >/etc/X11/default-display-manager, or a temporary solution is to hit ctl-alt-fN to get to a console |
| 16:10.59 | mateusz | Dr_Willis: for windows there is a project but comercial :) |
| 16:11.04 | zumbi | g4lt, chmod o+w chrome |
| 16:11.04 | zumbi | chmod: cambiando los permisos de `chrome': Operaci?n no permitida |
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| 16:11.15 | g4lt | zumbi as root? |
| 16:11.18 | zumbi | yes |
| 16:11.22 | Dr_Willis | mateusz, samba has several 'clones' to that lame MS messinging thinggie... |
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| 16:11.30 | abrotman | net send :) |
| 16:11.32 | Dr_Willis | that are out for it.. that ive nver used >) lol. |
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| 16:11.34 | g4lt | zumbi try to chown it it a sane value first |
| 16:11.46 | ribnitz | zumbi: what filesystem are you using, any special mount options? |
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| 16:12.18 | zumbi | ribnitz, ext3 debian |
| 16:12.27 | zumbi | g4lt, can't chown |
| 16:12.28 | gilgamesh | hey, sound doesn't seem to work in debian. I have a sound blaster live which works with the emu101 kernel modile, which is installed. Why won't sound work? does debian use alsa? can debian use alsa? |
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| 16:12.37 | ribnitz | zumbi: and the thing isnt mounted readonly or such? |
| 16:12.40 | maria | define "doesn't work" |
| 16:12.42 | Dr_Willis | gilga you useing the digital output? |
| 16:12.42 | zumbi | this file is at /var/lib/mozilla |
| 16:12.44 | matteorox | streuner_ thanks |
| 16:12.51 | maria | i mean, does it sit at home all day on the sofa watching TV? |
| 16:12.55 | maria | is it demanding money? |
| 16:13.02 | ribnitz | gilgamesh: sound in console, or sound in X? |
| 16:13.02 | maria | is it eating all the food in your house without buying anything? |
| 16:13.02 | zumbi | ribnitz, no... is a normal system |
| 16:13.03 | corr_ | gilgamesh is it muted? |
| 16:13.03 | g4lt | maria the bot says it better ;P |
| 16:13.11 | gilgamesh | I am not using the digital output, and, to define, doesn't work ,kde comes up with some sound server thing. |
| 16:13.15 | maria | pfff |
| 16:13.16 | g4lt | !doesn't work |
| 16:13.17 | Dr_Willis | alsa mutes things by default i recall. |
| 16:13.24 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 16:13.32 | MrKeuner | might it be possible to tell dpkg to rewind to an earlier date if we failed to get a list of upgraded packages? |
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| 16:13.36 | maria | i prefer my version :P |
| 16:13.36 | gilgamesh | is alsa installed on debian by default? |
| 16:13.36 | Dr_Willis | dont text with kde. :P text with xmms or somthing first. lol. |
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| 16:13.41 | g4lt | maria okay, the bot says it better when it finally gets around to it :/ |
| 16:13.46 | corr_ | dpkg it isn't "working" |
| 16:13.46 | dpkg | corr_: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 16:13.49 | gilgamesh | or should I just apt-get alsa? |
| 16:13.51 | corr_ | dpkg duhhhh |
| 16:13.51 | dpkg | corr_: i don't know |
| 16:13.57 | corr_ | dpkg i am tired of your stupidity!! |
| 16:13.57 | dpkg | it is my pleasure to meet you, corr_ |
| 16:14.06 | maria | hey, be nice to the bot :P |
| 16:14.16 | corr_ | dpkg, likewise. now plz stfu k thx. |
| 16:14.16 | dpkg | corr_: i haven't a clue |
| 16:14.22 | g4lt | maria you can always change the factoid if it's that important to you |
| 16:14.34 | gilgamesh | uhm |
| 16:14.37 | zumbi | ~nickometer corr_ |
| 16:14.37 | apt | 'corr_' is 0.000% lame, zumbi |
| 16:14.48 | g4lt | ~nickmeter corr_ |
| 16:14.54 | apt | corr_ is 100% lame with a cherry on top! |
| 16:14.54 | Croepha_ | is anyone else having trouble with ftp.us.debian.org?? |
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| 16:15.22 | g4lt | Croepha_ given that ftp.us.debian.org is a huge-assed round-robin DNS entry, probably not |
| 16:15.31 | corr | apt corr is heir to the debian throne |
| 16:15.35 | apt | corr: okay |
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| 16:16.09 | corr | Pwn. |
| 16:16.12 | gilgamesh | one sec, brb, then i will have to ask some questions about sound. |
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| 16:17.03 | corr | apt-get install microsoft-office-2003-professional |
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| 16:18.44 | Mage | how can I redirect an output to an input with a pipe ? |
| 16:18.45 | Croepha_ | g4lt: its just that its taking forwver to connect |
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| 16:18.56 | Mage | something like this : oggdec track03.cdda.ogg | lame -h - |
| 16:19.04 | Mage | but it don't work with '-' |
| 16:19.14 | maria | where is oggdec outputting to? |
| 16:19.23 | Mage | to a file |
| 16:19.30 | maria | then it's not going to work is it :P |
| 16:19.35 | g4lt | Croepha_ apt-spy |
| 16:19.35 | corr | probably a file by default, mage |
| 16:19.35 | maria | you need to tell it to output to stdout |
| 16:19.41 | corr | err |
| 16:19.46 | corr | wrong nick |
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| 16:19.49 | Mage | okay thanks |
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| 16:20.01 | Lowridah | can anyone help me setup my linux box for dhcp? during setup I configured it at 192.168.0.2 and don't know how to set it up for dhcp |
| 16:20.15 | Lowridah | it's getting internet off my winxp box using internet sharing connection with two static ip's and I get 50-60% packet loss, ms says to set other boxes up for dhcp |
| 16:20.35 | abrotman | Lowridah: etherconf |
| 16:20.36 | Croepha_ | 9~ |
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| 16:21.04 | g4lt | Lowridah man interfaces |
| 16:21.09 | abrotman | Lowridah: you want it to get or give dhcp ? |
| 16:21.24 | Mage | and how can I redirect oggdec to stdout if there is no option in the oggdec cmd ? |
| 16:21.33 | corr | there is |
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| 16:21.38 | corr | and if there isnt |
| 16:21.46 | corr | then make the file and cat it | etc |
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| 16:21.58 | gilgamesh | alright sound doesn't work. does debian use alsa? it doesn't seem to recognize alsa commands.... |
| 16:22.04 | Mage | no there isn't .. there is -o to redirect to a file, but no option to redirect to stdout |
| 16:22.14 | abrotman | gilgamesh: which version of debian? |
| 16:22.17 | Lowridah | get dhcp |
| 16:22.19 | gilgamesh | 3.0r2 |
| 16:22.23 | Lowridah | I have etherconf but I don't know how to use it |
| 16:22.29 | corr | mage, then cat the file. |
| 16:22.30 | ribnitz | gilgamesh: did you install alsa? |
| 16:22.35 | Mage | okay |
| 16:22.44 | CrippsFX | lol corr |
| 16:22.44 | corr | mage, and i believe you are incorrect. but i digress. |
| 16:22.45 | gilgamesh | i dunnoes. It isn't in the base debian package? |
| 16:23.00 | ribnitz | gilgamesh: why should it be? |
| 16:23.00 | gilgamesh | do I have to apt-get alsa? or manual install? |
| 16:23.10 | Mage | corr: there is such an option in oggenc, but not in oggdec |
| 16:23.15 | gilgamesh | ribnitz: is it possible to use apt-get to get alsa? |
| 16:23.21 | ribnitz | gilgamesh: yep. |
| 16:23.31 | gilgamesh | package name is jus alsa? |
| 16:23.38 | corr | mage, what is the option in oggenc? |
| 16:23.45 | CrippsFX | gilgamesh: apt-cache search <pkg name> |
| 16:23.54 | caphuso | Mage: "-o -" doesn't work? |
| 16:24.08 | Mage | I'll try.. |
| 16:24.13 | gilgamesh | Cripps: which one O_o |
| 16:24.22 | corr | caphuso was what i was getting to :) |
| 16:24.26 | Croepha_ | how do i force dpkg to install a package even though it may be over-riding annother |
| 16:24.36 | gilgamesh | well, lets start instaling O_o |
| 16:24.38 | Lowridah | using etherconf how to I set my eth0 for dhcp? |
| 16:24.43 | CrippsFX | gilgamesh: to search for alsa type in "apt-cache search alsa" and then read the descriptions until you find the one you need |
| 16:25.01 | CrippsFX | gilgamesh: if you install them all.,...you will have a lot of useless crap |
| 16:25.11 | Lowridah | to recieve, not serve dhcp |
| 16:25.14 | gilgamesh | ok |
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| 16:25.29 | CrippsFX | gilgamesh: it's actual;ly better to type "apt-cache search alsa|more" |
| 16:25.53 | corr | why does more still exist |
| 16:25.57 | corr | i hate that program |
| 16:25.59 | caphuso | CrippsFX: and even better: apt-cache search alsa | less |
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| 16:26.11 | gilgamesh | yeah |
| 16:26.13 | CrippsFX | caphuso: haven't used |less |
| 16:26.21 | caphuso | CrippsFX: your loss |
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| 16:26.23 | g4lt | CrippsFX it's possible that he won't even be able to, as I think there's some conflicting packages in that list... |
| 16:26.24 | CrippsFX | :P |
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| 16:26.35 | CrippsFX | yeah.... |
| 16:26.46 | CrippsFX | I think for the drivers, it just depends on the processor... |
| 16:26.54 | CrippsFX | thats what I gather from the list. |
| 16:26.54 | g4lt | caphuso bah! use most ;P |
| 16:27.06 | CrippsFX | gilgamesh: what processor do you have? |
| 16:27.07 | Form | hmm |
| 16:27.09 | caphuso | g4lt: most lacks some of the features of less |
| 16:27.16 | corr | come on, dialup... lets get it moving, i've got packages to download |
| 16:27.22 | CrippsFX | lol |
| 16:27.27 | Form | I recently started using vi again, but it leaves a filename~ file after I close it |
| 16:27.35 | Form | any ideas how to change that in my vimrc? |
| 16:27.53 | g4lt | caphuso fine, use view ;P |
| 16:27.54 | corr | Form vim and then press f1 when it started |
| 16:27.55 | Form | heh |
| 16:27.56 | Form | I like vim |
| 16:28.04 | concu | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:28.04 | concu | Are you sure to install/upgrade these packages? [Y/n/?/...] |
| 16:28.07 | concu | hey people |
| 16:28.11 | concu | what do i choose there? |
| 16:28.12 | Form | corr: k lemme check |
| 16:28.15 | concu | Yes or no |
| 16:28.20 | CrippsFX | concu: well, what do you want to do? |
| 16:28.29 | concu | i want to isntall kde |
| 16:28.30 | g4lt | concu I'd choose ? |
| 16:28.32 | concu | but it asked me that |
| 16:28.35 | concu | yeah |
| 16:28.40 | abrotman | g4lt: id choose ... |
| 16:28.48 | concu | yes? |
| 16:28.49 | Form | corr: hmm, helpfile, where do I find my info? |
| 16:28.58 | CrippsFX | concu: im lazy..so I would choose yes. |
| 16:29.04 | concu | cool |
| 16:29.05 | g4lt | abrotman there ain't no ellipsis there, it's a q IIRC |
| 16:29.06 | lokus | hi fellas |
| 16:29.07 | concu | thanks :D |
| 16:29.16 | CrippsFX | concu: but using a DM, I use Wmaker :P |
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| 16:29.29 | lokus | i tried to install debian last night and its saying that there isnt enough space in /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 16:29.29 | concu | oh |
| 16:29.30 | corr | form the same way i have found everything about vim.. read :) there is a crude searching mechanism, i believe it has something to do with backup, but i cant remember for sure |
| 16:29.49 | abrotman | !dict ain't |
| 16:29.51 | Form | meh |
| 16:29.52 | markybob | lokus, so fix it |
| 16:30.03 | Form | I'll read on vim.org |
| 16:30.03 | Form | :P |
| 16:30.03 | dpkg | could not find definition for ain't |
| 16:30.03 | lokus | i increased hdc1 to 300mb |
| 16:30.05 | abrotman | g4lt: what were you thniking! |
| 16:30.15 | lokus | and during dselect i choose to install all packages..could that be the problem? |
| 16:30.34 | LSorensen | lokus: yeah, all packages probably requires about 10G |
| 16:30.39 | g4lt | !dict isn't |
| 16:30.39 | lokus | oh heh |
| 16:30.41 | dpkg | could not find definition for isn't |
| 16:30.44 | lokus | lol |
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| 16:30.53 | corr | form, backup --- set it to off. |
| 16:30.54 | CrippsFX | gotta jump over to #php .... |
| 16:31.07 | CrippsFX | I'll be back later. |
| 16:31.09 | Form | searching for the option corr |
| 16:31.15 | LSorensen | lokus: besides I didn't think it was possible to even select all packages (many are mutually exclusive options) |
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| 16:31.26 | lokus | are there any packages in particular i should get |
| 16:31.33 | lokus | or should i skill dselect and get them later |
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| 16:31.38 | lokus | *skip |
| 16:31.41 | g4lt | :P~~~~~~ |
| 16:31.45 | Form | lokus: don't use dselect |
| 16:31.48 | lokus | ok |
| 16:31.49 | lokus | ty |
| 16:31.57 | corr | i just did :h backup and i got something i think will work for what you want |
| 16:32.05 | Form | and it depends for which purposes your PC is |
| 16:32.17 | borius | this is truly weird... the ne2k-pci was on the mini cd last year |
| 16:32.20 | borius | now it's not there |
| 16:32.24 | Form | after you get your system set up, you can install packages as you need them |
| 16:32.32 | lokus | because i run ito a problem |
| 16:32.32 | LSorensen | borius: probably not many users left of it. |
| 16:32.42 | lokus | i run tasksel |
| 16:32.45 | LSorensen | lokus: in general dselect is best never used |
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| 16:32.50 | borius | LSorensen: yeah but its the same cd i used to install debian last year |
| 16:32.52 | lokus | and i choose desktop environment and X |
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| 16:32.56 | lokus | but it doesnt install it |
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| 16:32.57 | borius | LSorensen: it should be there |
| 16:33.04 | LSorensen | borius: don't know |
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| 16:33.14 | LSorensen | borius: did you boot the same install kernel? |
| 16:33.33 | borius | LSorensen: 2.2.20 |
| 16:33.46 | abrotman | can i install debian on my windows? |
| 16:33.54 | borius | LSorensen: im downloading source code for 2.2.20... gonna compile the module and put it on a floppy lol |
| 16:34.15 | abrotman | borius: try bf24 .. or vanilla |
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| 16:35.31 | MrKeuner | how can I tell dpkg to rewind to an earlier date? how? |
| 16:35.54 | borius | abrotman: pardon? |
| 16:36.12 | lokus | so if i run tasksel and it doesnt install X and an env like i told it to what do i do? |
| 16:36.16 | lokus | apt-get install x-window-system? |
| 16:36.20 | abrotman | borius: try bf24 .. or vanilla/ |
| 16:36.29 | abrotman | borius: are you trying to install/rescue? |
| 16:36.38 | borius | abrotman: installing from a mini cd... |
| 16:36.46 | borius | abrotman: just like i did last year |
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| 16:36.56 | g4lt | abrotman I'd assume so, if they had a MMU ;P |
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| 16:37.05 | morgala | hey... i have a winxp laptop that I would like to exurcise from windows... the only problem is that I have no boot floppy or cd... how can loadlin work from xp? |
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| 16:38.11 | abrotman | g4lt: can i install debian on my monitor? .. it has 2k ram |
| 16:38.33 | g4lt | abrotman again, if it has a MMU and swap ;P |
| 16:38.55 | abrotman | g4lt: can i install it on my dog? |
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| 16:39.14 | morgala | i have a farm with 2k rams... is that enough for debian? |
| 16:39.15 | borius | abrotman: or your beaver? :) |
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| 16:39.28 | abrotman | borius: i dont have a beaver |
| 16:39.33 | jp | yo |
| 16:39.35 | abrotman | and leave the woodland creatures out of it |
| 16:39.37 | ribnitz | abrotman: use some girdle, and a deluxe package. |
| 16:39.50 | lokus | hrm same problem |
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| 16:40.07 | lokus | maybe its putting all the files on the boot partition that is like 300mb |
| 16:40.13 | lokus | instead of the one that 35gb |
| 16:40.19 | gilgamesh | apt-get said something about modifying lilo due to a new kernel image. How do I know where this new kernel image is? |
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| 16:40.36 | g4lt | abrotman no, outside a dog, Debian's man's best friend. Inside a dog, it's too hard to see to install ;P |
| 16:40.37 | nkuttler | gilgamesh: /boot/ |
| 16:40.37 | godless | morgala : use dos |
| 16:40.42 | godless | morgala : use dos/win98 |
| 16:41.43 | borius | how to mount and format a floppy with ext2? |
| 16:41.43 | morgala | no floppy and no cd... only winxp and net... |
| 16:41.51 | morgala | no dos or 98 |
| 16:42.00 | godless | or if you have some a free partition and some virtual pc soft you can install linux on the spare partition |
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| 16:42.08 | lokus | can anyone help me with describing linux partitions? |
| 16:42.22 | caphuso | lokus: "describing"? |
| 16:42.25 | lokus | i think im naming my partitions wrong and its installing everything on the hdc1 partition |
| 16:42.28 | gilgamesh | nkutter: of that were the case then I shouldn't have to change anything, yet apt-get said tchange would be necessary |
| 16:42.30 | ribnitz | lokus: describing them in what way? |
| 16:42.30 | abrotman | !linux manpages |
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| 16:42.36 | lokus | while hdc2 partition is like 35gb |
| 16:42.41 | godless | morgala : plug hd into desktop, install debian, plug hd into laptop |
| 16:42.47 | abrotman | !linux man pages |
| 16:42.48 | dpkg | linux man pages are utterly shit, and you can't fix them even if you try. For example, see http://bugs.debian.org/111578 |
| 16:43.01 | nkuttler | gilgamesh: check /etc/lilo.conf and run lilo, you will be warned about errors |
| 16:43.38 | godless | morgala : what laptop btw ? |
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| 16:43.42 | lokus | like when it asks me for a root partition i choose hdc1 which is like 300mb |
| 16:43.49 | lokus | should i be choosig hdc2 which is 35gb? |
| 16:44.03 | borius | abrotman: it was an article on slashdot... "installing linux on your beaver" or something like that |
| 16:44.14 | arafel | borius - dead badger |
| 16:44.17 | morgala | dell latitude c600... i am going to turn it into a server... |
| 16:44.25 | ribnitz | lokus: you won't have much on /, if you have separate partitions for /var, /usr, /home,.. |
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| 16:44.35 | gilgamesh | all looks fine to me knutter, will a reboot do the trick then? |
| 16:44.44 | sussudio | borius: gravling gravling gravling gravling |
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| 16:45.03 | godless | lokus : the root partition is where all other partitions are mounted, so if you don't mount seperate /usr and /var partitions / tends to fill up |
| 16:45.17 | arafel | particularly if it's only 300MB |
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| 16:45.25 | godless | indeed |
| 16:45.30 | abrotman | borius: i remember |
| 16:45.40 | abrotman | anyone know how to make grub create the menus on a floppy? |
| 16:45.42 | lokus | well i have hdc1 300mb, hdc2 35gb+ and hdc3 600mb swap partition |
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| 16:45.59 | gilgamesh | im gonna reboot lets see how this goes |
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| 16:46.18 | godless | lokus : I usually shoose a 10GB partition for root and rest for home, or for servers I try to give every root dir it's own partition |
| 16:46.36 | lokus | so hdc1 should be 10gb? |
| 16:46.40 | arafel | lokus - do you have to keep the 300MB partition, or can you remove it? |
| 16:46.46 | lokus | nah i can make it anything |
| 16:46.48 | morgala | ok... how about this one... i have a 2.5inch hdd casing... could I somhow install debain onto a usb hdd? |
| 16:46.54 | lokus | i have 40gb to work with |
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| 16:47.09 | lokus | im just confused about how a normal linux partition should be setup |
| 16:47.11 | morgala | and then take the hdd out of the usb casing and back into a loptop? |
| 16:47.17 | arafel | lokus - in that case, create one 10GB partition to use for root, and one 30GB partition for /home. IMO |
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| 16:47.21 | abrotman | you have a loptop? |
| 16:47.24 | lokus | thats it? |
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| 16:47.37 | abrotman | arafel: you forgot swap |
| 16:47.48 | arafel | abrotman - <cough> a minor detail... |
| 16:47.49 | g4lt | abrotman would that be an iJack? |
| 16:47.50 | nkuttler | morgala: if the install can mount a usb hd it could work |
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| 16:47.54 | abrotman | lokus: id say .. 14GB / .. 25GB /home .. 1GB swap |
| 16:47.55 | lokus | should i make a 3rd for a swap partition? |
| 16:47.55 | arafel | okay, make it a 29GB home partition then. |
| 16:47.57 | ribnitz | lokus: whats the machine's spec you want to have linux on? |
| 16:47.58 | ubik | can someone please tell me how i could lower my mouse sensitivity under X? |
| 16:48.00 | lokus | ok |
| 16:48.01 | nkuttler | morgala: try #debian-boot |
| 16:48.04 | johnnyST | Hi I heard some rumors that next stable debian will be out next year is it so? |
| 16:48.05 | lokus | 650mhz |
| 16:48.06 | lokus | p3 |
| 16:48.11 | lokus | 128mb sdram pc100 |
| 16:48.13 | abrotman | johnnyST: stop reading slashdot :) |
| 16:48.16 | lokus | or pc133 i forget heh |
| 16:48.19 | johnnyST | hehe :) |
| 16:48.20 | arafel | lokus - there isn't really a wrong or right answer. whatever you pick, you'll find later on it would have been better another way ;-) |
| 16:48.26 | lokus | haha |
| 16:48.28 | lokus | ok |
| 16:48.28 | nkuttler | ubik: xset |
| 16:48.31 | abrotman | johnnyST: go read debianplanet.org .. look for the article that references slashdot |
| 16:48.41 | lokus | i appreciate the help |
| 16:48.44 | abrotman | johnnyST: theres a new GR to get sarge out |
| 16:48.46 | lokus | this is the most helpful linux channel |
| 16:48.49 | ubik | nkuttler: thanks |
| 16:48.50 | johnnyST | ok |
| 16:48.51 | lokus | most ppl are dicks :) |
| 16:49.04 | gilgamesh | hmm, I am having issues with alsa |
| 16:49.09 | ribnitz | lokus: Over here I have a PII-450, 256 MB ram. I have 1GB swap, and /var, /home, /usr (and some others) on separate partitions. |
| 16:49.10 | arafel | I think you just caught us all at the wrong time... ') |
| 16:49.17 | abrotman | johnnyST: i think its debian.org/vote |
| 16:49.39 | johnnyST | ok |
| 16:49.55 | gilgamesh | alsa comes up right at the end with this: no ALSA driver installed. what causes this? |
| 16:50.17 | lokus | hrm ok |
| 16:50.22 | lokus | thats another thing i dont understand |
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| 16:50.43 | l4vim | hello |
| 16:50.43 | lokus | u know /var /usr /home having their own partitions |
| 16:51.10 | ribnitz | lokus: / 500m, /usr 5GB, /var 1.5g, /home 3 G (and some others...) |
| 16:51.22 | ubik | nkuttler: i'm sorry i do not quite undestand the man page; i tried "xset mouse various_numbers" but i6t doesn't do much.. |
| 16:51.28 | l4vim | on 2.6.5 my touchpad is not full-functionally - I can click only with key not by touching touchpad |
| 16:51.31 | godless | lokus : 100mb for /boot (hdc1), 512mb for swap (hdc2), 10gb for / (hdc5 logical partion), rest is free, or home or whatever you want, say keep a 5 gb test partion for kicks and learning stuff |
| 16:51.41 | l4vim | and it's very fast |
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| 16:51.42 | lokus | hrm |
| 16:51.49 | l4vim | what I have to do to change it ? |
| 16:51.50 | arafel | lokus - /var because that's where all the logs, spoolfiles for news etc go. so somebody remotely could crash your system otherwise, by simply causing it to fill up |
| 16:52.02 | lokus | heh |
| 16:52.05 | arafel | lokus - /home because that way when you re-install the OS all your stuff is safe |
| 16:52.10 | lokus | well imma leave it basic at first to learn |
| 16:52.25 | lokus | now what about in cfdisk |
| 16:52.27 | godless | lokus : var and usr I usually give 5 to 10 gb if in a seperate partition |
| 16:52.35 | lokus | i just remade the partitions |
| 16:52.42 | lokus | do i need to select a Type |
| 16:52.42 | lokus | ? |
| 16:52.52 | morgala | hey are there any non standard boot floppies that are specificly designed for a net install... |
| 16:52.56 | godless | no |
| 16:52.59 | ribnitz | lokus: are you using woody/stable? |
| 16:53.04 | lokus | yes |
| 16:53.12 | lokus | well im using rc2 |
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| 16:53.17 | LSorensen | morgala: there are standard boot floppies specifically designed for net install |
| 16:53.19 | ribnitz | lokus: r2. |
| 16:53.24 | lokus | yes |
| 16:53.50 | phogg | ubik: try 'xset m 2/1 4' which is what I use. |
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| 16:54.04 | l4vim | morgala : if you can, try to use net-install CD - something about 30 MB very good to install all the rest from net |
| 16:54.05 | ribnitz | lokus: ok. I chose ext3 for root, and xfs for the others, but then I am not on stable, where xfs may not be available. |
| 16:54.08 | corr | i am frickin sick of 99% of music having lil jon and his stupid voice in the background |
| 16:54.14 | gilgamesh | alsa comes up right at the end with this: no ALSA driver installed. what causes this? did apt-get not properly install the kernel image that was accompanied by proper drivers? |
| 16:54.22 | ribnitz | lokus: the swap is of type linux swap. |
| 16:54.34 | Weeble | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:54.36 | gilgamesh | 83 ^_^ |
| 16:54.49 | l4vim | morgala : if you cannot - look LSorensen ses |
| 16:54.51 | godless | lokus : the type in cfdisk will switch between linux and linux swap |
| 16:54.54 | ubik | phogg: thanks it feels better now |
| 16:55.00 | l4vim | s/look/look what/ |
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| 16:55.32 | gilgamesh | ? |
| 16:55.46 | gilgamesh | could anyone give me a hand? |
| 16:55.50 | l4vim | anyone useing 2.6.5 kernel on laptop ? I have some problems with touchpad - it works too fast and don't suport click'ing by touching (only with key useing) |
| 16:55.53 | lokus | ok it says select a partition to use as a linux ext2? |
| 16:56.07 | ribnitz | dpkg, give gilgamesh a hand |
| 16:56.08 | lokus | would i choose hdc1 (10gb) or hdc2 (30gb) |
| 16:56.15 | arafel | gilgamesh - did you also download the alsa-modules-version ? |
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| 16:56.22 | arafel | such as alsa-modules-2.4.25-1-k7-smp |
| 16:56.38 | arafel | which are labelled as "Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (drivers)" |
| 16:56.53 | gilgamesh | arafel: i think so.... alsa-modules-2.4.16-k7 is what I got i think |
| 16:57.01 | godless | lokus : you can format it youreself as ext3 and then choose previously inatialized partition |
| 16:57.02 | l4vim | gilgamesh : you have probbably don't have the right one music cart compiled in your kernel (or don't have loaded module for it) |
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| 16:57.07 | jasomja | hi |
| 16:57.15 | lokus | hrm |
| 16:57.19 | lokus | ill just choose hdc1 |
| 16:57.24 | gilgamesh | what is the name of the alsa module so I can modprobe for it? |
| 16:57.29 | ribnitz | lokus: you have 40 gb total. most of it will probably be /usr, followed with /var, and /home |
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| 16:57.42 | godless | as soon debian is installed fetch the new kernel and it will be ext3 (wich is backwards compatible with ext2 |
| 16:57.46 | l4vim | gilgamesh : what type of music card you have ? |
| 16:57.48 | jasomja | ? i have installed image-2.6.5-1-686 and have sb live but it cant load sb.ko , how can i get work my sound card ? |
| 16:58.06 | gilgamesh | sound mlaster live 5.1 digitial compliant with the emu101k or whatever module |
| 16:58.12 | gilgamesh | blaster* |
| 16:58.20 | g4lt | jasomja alsa and snd_sb16 |
| 16:58.20 | Weeble | we guessed :) |
| 16:58.42 | lokus | its asking me if i wnana mount hdc1 (10gb) as root file system |
| 16:58.47 | g4lt | jasomja uhm sb lives don't use sb16 modules... |
| 16:59.03 | jasomja | when i am trying sb.ko , it return No such device |
| 16:59.10 | jasomja | but i see it in lspci |
| 16:59.10 | gilgamesh | g4lt: yeah, they use emu101k or something likr that |
| 16:59.17 | arafel | sblive uses emu10k1 |
| 16:59.24 | g4lt | jasomja OF COURSE IT DOES: SB IS SB16 |
| 16:59.25 | gilgamesh | yeah thats the one |
| 16:59.31 | jasomja | 0:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 08) |
| 16:59.36 | gilgamesh | arafel: how do I proceed? |
| 16:59.43 | pingouiin | someone know a good url about Latex & debian ? |
| 17:00.01 | g4lt | jasomja what part of you don't have a sb16 do you fail to understand? |
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| 17:00.10 | ribnitz | pingouiin: www.tug.org? |
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| 17:00.17 | arafel | gilgamesh - you're sure you've got a kernel-image and matching alsa-modules ? |
| 17:00.23 | caphuso | pingouiin: file:///usr/share/doc/tetex-doc |
| 17:00.28 | arafel | gilgamesh - I can only be a limited help here, I build my own kernel... |
| 17:00.38 | gilgamesh | arafel may I query you? is that alright on a temporary basis? |
| 17:00.46 | arafel | gilgamesh - no, sorry |
| 17:00.48 | pingouiin | ribnitz, maybe..thx |
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| 17:00.52 | gilgamesh | ok, I understand |
| 17:01.01 | pingouiin | caphuso, surely as soon as i got the package ;) thx |
| 17:01.03 | gilgamesh | i think i got them yes, lemme check though |
| 17:01.04 | l4vim | gilgamesh : make sure you have this compiled into your kernel or if you have it in module check lsmod if it is loaded |
| 17:01.25 | l4vim | anyone useing 2.6.5 kernel on laptop ? I have some problems with touchpad - it works too fast and don't suport click'ing by touching (only with key useing) |
| 17:01.28 | g4lt | arafel wuss! food is for the weak |
| 17:01.33 | arafel | gilgamesh - does dpkg -L alsa-modules-stuff give you a list of things in /lib/module ? |
| 17:01.37 | ribnitz | pingouiin: whereabout in france are you? |
| 17:01.37 | arafel | g4lt - and the hungry |
| 17:01.39 | gilgamesh | do i need to check for emu10k1 or the alsa module? |
| 17:01.40 | g4lt | arafel that's why they make chinese takeout |
| 17:01.49 | pingouiin | ribnitz, yeah that's it |
| 17:01.58 | arafel | g4lt - mm, true. but we're going out to eat. |
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| 17:02.13 | jmob | l4vim, I have that problem too |
| 17:02.18 | pingouiin | in the north |
| 17:02.35 | gilgamesh | aarafel: one sec cecking |
| 17:02.47 | ribnitz | pingouiin: there's Gutenberg, the french, tex-users group. links should be at tug.org |
| 17:02.57 | l4vim | jmob : I have 2.5.69 kernel too - all works fine there, but in 2.6.5 I did'nt sow anything about it to compile in |
| 17:03.00 | pingouiin | thx |
| 17:03.18 | arafel | gilgamesh - I've got the emu10k1 module loaded, but I'm still on 2.4 using OSS (AFAIK). |
| 17:03.24 | joesmack | has anybody got mysql-php4 to work after updating to a 2.6 kernel? It works fine for me with a 2.4.17 kernel. |
| 17:03.26 | ribnitz | pingouiin: there's probably also something in belgium. |
| 17:03.35 | arafel | packages.debian.org can't seem to find any files named emu10k1, so it could be it changed name |
| 17:03.43 | jmob | l4vim, you can use xset to slow the mouse down though |
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| 17:03.50 | arafel | or it's not a module, I guess. heh. |
| 17:03.54 | Justin | arafel: you have to use the right search box. |
| 17:04.12 | l4vim | jmob : ok, 'll try - and what can I use to make touch-click working ? |
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| 17:04.29 | gilgamesh | arafel: that doesn't seem to work |
| 17:04.33 | arafel | Justin: I did. |
| 17:04.43 | arafel | gilgamesh - what, dpkg -L doesn't show you anything for the alsa-modules ? |
| 17:04.51 | Justin | arafel: no, you didn't |
| 17:04.53 | gilgamesh | Package `alsa-modules-stuff' is not installed. |
| 17:05.05 | Cire | does a 20 GB Harddisk need special treatment? (block size, etc?) "df" returns "-bash: /bin/df: Eingabe-/Ausgabefehler" |
| 17:05.08 | arafel | gilgamesh - uh, you were supposed to replace 'stuff' with your kernel version... |
| 17:05.09 | gilgamesh | ERR, oh lol |
| 17:05.15 | gilgamesh | i know |
| 17:05.16 | jmob | l4vim, dunno about that, if I ever look into it I'm going to do a google search on synaptics touch pads in 2.6.x, I'm sure someone else has had my problem already. |
| 17:05.18 | gilgamesh | woops |
| 17:05.25 | gilgamesh | didn't even really look to see what it said |
| 17:05.36 | arafel | Justin: p.d.o can't find any file named emu10k1 in the unstable distribution. which probably means it's not a module. |
| 17:05.37 | l4vim | jmob : i have synapsis too |
| 17:05.50 | g4lt | Cire it needs LBA, sure |
| 17:06.01 | gilgamesh | arafel: a whole load of crap came up |
| 17:06.12 | Justin | http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=emu10k1&searchmode=searchword&case=insensitive&version=unstable&arch=i386 |
| 17:06.16 | Justin | idiots. |
| 17:06.16 | l4vim | jmob : 'll try to find a way too - so tell me if you'll find anything and I'll do the same |
| 17:06.20 | gilgamesh | arafel: all alsa crap |
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| 17:06.26 | arafel | gilgamesh - those are the modules it installed. see if one of them looks like a 'main' module, or something promising. |
| 17:06.28 | Justin | !tell arafel about search |
| 17:06.29 | l4vim | jmob : /msg me plz |
| 17:06.31 | arafel | http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=emu10k1&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=unstable&arch=i386 |
| 17:06.33 | borius | hmm whats the command for burning a single file on a cd? i want i to be ext2 |
| 17:06.36 | jmob | l4vim, http://w1.894.telia.com/~u89404340/touchpad |
| 17:06.38 | arafel | as copied and pasted from my browser. |
| 17:06.44 | arafel | trust me, I used the right box. |
| 17:06.53 | jmob | l4vim, search for "2.6" in that page |
| 17:06.54 | Cire | Do I havre to set LBA, or does linux do this for me? (in BIOS, LBA is selected) |
| 17:07.01 | gilgamesh | then /lib/modules/2.4.16-k7/alsa is an installed module then |
| 17:07.03 | Justin | notice how your link is not the same as my link. |
| 17:07.34 | LSorensen | Cire: if you use lilo, havine lba32 in lilo.conf somewhere is usually a good idea |
| 17:07.37 | arafel | ah, you searched packages. fair enough. |
| 17:08.10 | LSorensen | gilgamesh: which kernel version are you running? (uname -r_ |
| 17:08.24 | l4vim | jmob : http://www.geocities.com/dt_or/input/ <- there is kernel patch download for synapsis |
| 17:08.32 | l4vim | jmob : thnx 4 help |
| 17:08.36 | gilgamesh | 2.4.18-bf2.4 |
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| 17:08.38 | Cire | I have gnurf, or sth like that *g* (testing with 2.6 kernel) |
| 17:08.43 | gilgamesh | :*( |
| 17:08.43 | jmob | l4vim, cool |
| 17:08.45 | gilgamesh | waaah |
| 17:08.54 | arafel | gilgamesh - in which case, having a 2.4.16-k7 module won't help you... :-) |
| 17:09.02 | LSorensen | gilgamesh: ok, do NOT run the installer kernel. install a real one |
| 17:09.05 | gilgamesh | ackishness |
| 17:09.09 | gilgamesh | woops |
| 17:09.14 | Invisible_Optiks | Yesterday I used apt-get install php4 to install php4 and the already installed Apache was beautifully reconfigured for it. Does the same thing work with mySQL? |
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| 17:09.27 | LSorensen | gilgamesh: apt-cache search kernel-image-2.4 |
| 17:09.36 | npi | hi |
| 17:09.37 | LSorensen | gilgamesh: find one for your cpu, and the matching alsa-modules package |
| 17:09.43 | johnnyST | This is offtopic but is there a free as in price X-server avalible for Win32? not Cygwin. |
| 17:09.45 | l4vim | jmob : sorry this is patch for non-stable 2.6. kernels |
| 17:09.48 | l4vim | jmob : http://w1.894.telia.com/~u89404340/touchpad/files/synaptics-0.13.2.tar.bz2 |
| 17:09.54 | LSorensen | johnnyST: whatever is wrong with cygwin's? |
| 17:09.55 | l4vim | jmob : this is what we need |
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| 17:10.04 | idnarhtim | johnnyST: why not Cygwin |
| 17:10.08 | LSorensen | joh: I don't know of any free ones besides that |
| 17:10.17 | Phoenix4 | hello |
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| 17:10.26 | johnnyST | LSorensen: Dose not work wery well anymore for some reson. |
| 17:10.27 | jmob | l4vim, cool, was that linked on his page somewhere? |
| 17:10.37 | gilgamesh | kernel-image-2.4.18-1-k7 looks good |
| 17:10.45 | LSorensen | gilgamesh: athlon/duron? |
| 17:10.46 | gilgamesh | err |
| 17:10.50 | gilgamesh | wait |
| 17:10.51 | Phoenix4 | I've got a problem. Every time I try to play an mp3 file with mpg123 I get the following error: Can't find a suitable libao driver. (Is device in use?) |
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| 17:10.59 | gilgamesh | athlon |
| 17:11.01 | LSorensen | Phoenix4: have you tried mpg321? |
| 17:11.01 | johnnyST | I want to use X forwarding in putty togahter with an X server. |
| 17:11.04 | LSorensen | gilgamesh: should be fine then |
| 17:11.07 | Phoenix4 | any sugestion? |
| 17:11.23 | gilgamesh | kernel-image-2.4.18-1-k7 , or should it be kernel-image-2.4.18-bf2.4 |
| 17:11.24 | Phoenix4 | LSorense yes, It says the same |
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| 17:11.33 | LSorensen | gilgamesh: bf means boot floppies aka installer |
| 17:11.38 | Phoenix4 | my soundcard seems to be detected |
| 17:11.39 | Nap` | hello all |
| 17:11.40 | l4vim | jmob : it's from page that you show me |
| 17:11.40 | daydreamer | Hi all, |
| 17:11.46 | Phoenix4 | Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.4rc2 (Tue Mar 30 08:19:30 2004 UTC). |
| 17:11.47 | Phoenix4 | specify port |
| 17:11.48 | Phoenix4 | pnp: Device 01:01.00 activated. |
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| 17:11.50 | Phoenix4 | ALSA device list: |
| 17:11.51 | Phoenix4 | #0: Sound Blaster 16 at 0x220, irq 5, dma 1&5 |
| 17:11.52 | CasaNova2 | I have a general linux problem. When I start nfs my HD and outbound internet connection start thrashing. they stop as soon asI stp nfs. |
| 17:11.59 | xyz | Does anyone know if Gnutella automatically shares the file it downloads? |
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| 17:12.04 | l4vim | jmob : XFree module to load |
| 17:12.07 | CasaNova2 | how can I track down what is trying to getout/? |
| 17:12.08 | maston28 | have you seen it ? http://www.idpz.net/maston28/sploits/critical/2004/5/9/12/index.html |
| 17:12.14 | Phoenix4 | Why the hell I get the same error every time?? |
| 17:12.17 | Shadur | CasaNova2: tcpdump |
| 17:12.20 | LSorensen | xyz: It would make sense that it does. I don't know though. |
| 17:12.23 | gilgamesh | kernel-image-2.4.18-1-k7 , or should it be kernel-image-2.4.18-bf2.4? and what do I do with which ever? |
| 17:12.29 | Shadur | CasaNova2: better yet, check /etc/exports |
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| 17:12.33 | LSorensen | gilgamesh: you don't want any kernel with 'bf' in the name |
| 17:12.39 | gilgamesh | ok |
| 17:12.52 | Cire | arg... Nearly ANY command returns -bash: /bin/program: Eingabe-/Ausgabefehler |
| 17:12.55 | CasaNova2 | Shadur: When I run netstat I see the connection to bell1 but tcpdump shoudl show me what is trying to get out ? |
| 17:12.56 | LSorensen | gilgamesh: alsa-modules-2.4.18-1-k7 and kernel-image-2.4.18-1-k7 should work |
| 17:13.08 | CasaNova2 | I checked my exports and they are as they shoudl be... |
| 17:13.13 | gilgamesh | install kernel-image-2.4.18-1-k7 and alsa-modules-2.4.18-1-k7 ? |
| 17:13.24 | jmob | l4vim, ah, okay, thx |
| 17:13.30 | LSorensen | gilgamesh: if you want alsa working, then yes. then reboot to the full 2.4.18 kernel and alsa should be able to work |
| 17:13.40 | l4vim | jmob : no no no, thnx 2 u ;) |
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| 17:14.09 | caphuso | Cire: that's rather serious |
| 17:14.10 | gilgamesh | apt get says: kernel-image-2.4.18-bf2.4 |
| 17:14.13 | apt | gilgamesh: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 17:14.15 | LSorensen | gilgamesh: install kernel image first, then after it's done installing alsa-modules is usually simplest |
| 17:14.16 | gilgamesh | errrr |
| 17:14.40 | Cire | (ls works, df, dir,fdisk etc return error) |
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| 17:14.45 | LSorensen | gilgamesh: apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-1-k7 <- that's it |
| 17:14.54 | Phoenix4 | hey! can somebody please help me with my soundcard? |
| 17:15.02 | Phoenix4 | im gettind desperate!!! |
| 17:15.03 | Phoenix4 | :D |
| 17:15.06 | gilgamesh | LSorensen: i know but is is messing up |
| 17:15.32 | npi | Phoenix4: apt-get install libao0|libao2 ? |
| 17:15.32 | LSorensen | gilgamesh: well try apt-get update first then |
| 17:15.43 | gilgamesh | Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 17:15.43 | gilgamesh | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:15.48 | streuner_ | Phoenix4: /msg dpkg sound |
| 17:15.50 | Phoenix4 | npi alredy got them installed |
| 17:16.01 | caphuso | Cire: how about dmesg? |
| 17:16.01 | LSorensen | gilgamesh: dpkg -r alsa-modules-2.4.16-k7 |
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| 17:16.07 | LSorensen | gilgamesh: they are useless to you |
| 17:16.24 | Cire | EXT3-fs error (device hda1) in start_transaction: Journal has aborted |
| 17:16.34 | gilgamesh | removed... |
| 17:16.36 | Phoenix4 | streuner_ ?? |
| 17:17.02 | gilgamesh | LSorensen: it said that there were unmet dependencies when I tried to install the new kernel image |
| 17:17.06 | Cire | this seems bad |
| 17:17.19 | Phoenix4 | streuner_ msg dpkg sound ? |
| 17:17.19 | Cire | (my dmesg output) |
| 17:17.21 | caphuso | Cire: is that all= |
| 17:17.25 | caphuso | s/=/?/ |
| 17:17.31 | Cire | no... |
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| 17:17.42 | Cire | end_request: I/O error, dev hda, sector 19384431 |
| 17:17.51 | MezzyMeat | how can i take screenshots in flux/blackbox? |
| 17:18.00 | caphuso | Cire: most likely really bad disk. replace ASAP |
| 17:18.02 | ninja | backtick 1 |
| 17:18.05 | caphuso | MezzyMeat: /msg dpkg sshot |
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| 17:18.29 | ninja | oops :p |
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| 17:19.16 | Cire | caphuso: do you think so? It's strange, because this disk worked well in a windows machine. May this error be caused by a power-off while running? |
| 17:19.25 | gilgamesh | LSorensen: will lilo automatically point t this new kernel image? |
| 17:19.28 | ribnitz | Cire: do you have a backup, if not make one NOW! |
| 17:19.35 | caphuso | Cire: windows isn't exactly the most open of all OSes |
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| 17:20.05 | peppo | how can I find GIMP 1.2 for unstable? |
| 17:20.11 | Cire | No important data. Just my bootdisk. |
| 17:20.13 | caphuso | Cire: it will happily run on bad hardware, trying the best to confuse you with stupid BSODs instead of simply telling you "there's an error i can't guarantee to work around" |
| 17:20.17 | ribnitz | Cire: do not reboot or power off the machine, will only get worse. |
| 17:20.23 | LSorensen | gilgamesh: if you say yes to update lilo, and do the initrd thing it tells you to do, then yes |
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| 17:20.48 | streuner_ | Phoenix4: What soundcard do you have? Did the soundcard ever worked for you, what kernel do you use? |
| 17:20.51 | Cire | I'll give my 17 GB HD a try... |
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| 17:20.57 | Nap` | I have a problem with the 2.6.5 kernel on my sid : I have two video cards, one on the AGP slot and one on a PCI slot, and since the 2.6.5 kernel, my AGP card is not used/recognized |
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| 17:21.05 | gilgamesh | LSorensen: alright ill do that crap now |
| 17:21.07 | Nap` | no problem with 2.6.2 |
| 17:21.14 | Phoenix4 | yes, it worked, ive got a sound blaster 16 pnp, kernel 2.6.5 |
| 17:21.21 | Nap` | and I did a 'make oldconfig' |
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| 17:21.28 | LSorensen | Nap`: does your bios specify which slot to use first? Does X have a PCI ID set properly? |
| 17:21.31 | Phoenix4 | the sound card is installed, but i dont get any output |
| 17:21.33 | seberino | Newbie parsing question please about whether "Step 20" is correct for parsing example at http://pastebin.com/64401. I don't understand basic parsing. |
| 17:21.47 | LSorensen | Phoenix4: is master and pcm unmuted and volume turned up to about 80%? |
| 17:21.56 | maston28 | have you seen it ? http://www.idpz.net/maston28/sploits/critical/2004/5/9/12/index.html |
| 17:22.01 | Nap` | LSorensen : every thing works with 2.6.2... |
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| 17:22.09 | LSorensen | Nap`: well they keep changing stuff in 2.6 |
| 17:22.15 | gilgamesh | i think it setup lilo itself |
| 17:22.18 | LSorensen | Nap`: recently they yanked the ati firmware |
| 17:22.31 | Nap` | my card is an nvidia |
| 17:22.36 | Phoenix4 | LSorense yes |
| 17:22.39 | Nap` | and my AGP chipset is AMD |
| 17:22.40 | LSorensen | Nap`: using nvidia binary driver or something else? |
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| 17:22.50 | Nap` | yes |
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| 17:23.01 | LSorensen | Nap`: did you recompile the nvidia modules after the upgrade? |
| 17:23.01 | Nap` | I have to recompile it ? |
| 17:23.02 | streuner_ | Phoenix4: what happens when you use a official kernel? |
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| 17:23.16 | Nap` | no, I did not thought to do it |
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| 17:23.21 | Nap` | ok |
| 17:23.22 | LSorensen | Nap`: kernel modules are version specific. every kernel needs the modules compiled |
| 17:23.22 | gilgamesh | LSorensen: I think it set up lilo itself and I shall boot now, hopefully it will boot the new kernel image.be right back, assuming this boots now! |
| 17:23.22 | Phoenix4 | ok, now it works |
| 17:23.22 | JDjoeka | Are there any java plugins in deb format? Using Sid? |
| 17:23.26 | LSorensen | Nap`: go read the howto |
| 17:23.26 | gilgamesh | 1 sec |
| 17:23.28 | Nap` | that is surely the problem |
| 17:23.31 | LSorensen | JDjoeka: from blackdown.org yes |
| 17:23.33 | Nap` | thx |
| 17:23.34 | Phoenix4 | forgott to specify alsa driver |
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| 17:23.49 | Hideki_ | hi, I have a problem with vpn throughput, but what can I do to improve the network speed through vpn connection? it's about 60% compared to the non-vpn conncetion. |
| 17:23.52 | arafel | LSorense: the nvidia ones usually need to be recompiled even if you just did something like enable something entirely unrelated |
| 17:24.04 | JDjoeka | LSorensen: Oh, and what about nptl? |
| 17:24.13 | LSorensen | JDjoeka: whatever is that? |
| 17:24.31 | arafel | LSorensen: native posix threading library |
| 17:24.36 | JDjoeka | LSorensen: ative Posix Threading Library |
| 17:24.39 | arafel | supposed to be faster threading, I think. |
| 17:24.40 | JDjoeka | Yeah |
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| 17:25.11 | LSorensen | JDjoeka: don't know. |
| 17:26.15 | gilga | LSorensen: this is gilgamesh. oh noes, kernel panic |
| 17:26.22 | ixi-deb04 | Today I experienced a problem with exim slow start. I've just found the reason. |
| 17:26.41 | peppo | is there a way to keep GIMP 1.2 alongside 2.0? :( |
| 17:26.50 | LSorensen | gilga: did you do the initrd change to lilo.conf it asked for? |
| 17:26.52 | peppo | in unstable. I can't install old 1.2 packages, they seem to conflict with 2.0 |
| 17:27.04 | gilga | cannot mount root partition, etc.gonna give it a shot with the bootdisk, 1 sec |
| 17:27.09 | LSorensen | gilga: probably can't no |
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| 17:27.16 | gilga | ? |
| 17:27.18 | ixi-deb04 | The reason was in /etc/hostname. It seems here my be full host name (fqdn), not boxname! |
| 17:27.18 | LSorensen | gilga: just ask lilo for LinuxOld |
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| 17:27.34 | LSorensen | er peppo: probably can't |
| 17:27.44 | LSorensen | gilga: did you edit lilo.conf like it told you to? |
| 17:27.45 | peppo | fuck. |
| 17:27.52 | peppo | gimp2 won't save gifs for me |
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| 17:28.09 | LSorensen | peppo: I suspect the patent hasn't quite expired yet |
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| 17:28.20 | gilga | uhm, there is no lilo prompt, it just automatically starts the boot process. how od I interrupt it for the lilo boot: prompt? |
| 17:28.26 | JDjoeka | Why is gnome 2.6 not in sid yet? |
| 17:28.33 | LSorensen | gilga: hit left shift when you see LILO |
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| 17:28.45 | ixi-deb04 | Thats what I intended to say. Bye :) |
| 17:28.47 | LoRez | JDjoeka: because you haven't stepped up to the plate and packaged it. |
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| 17:28.54 | gilga | thanks |
| 17:29.17 | JDjoeka | LoRez: Yeah, whatever. But it's in experimental, so none of that should mather. |
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| 17:29.38 | LoRez | JDjoeka: sounds like it's experimental then. |
| 17:29.47 | gilga | loading linuxold |
| 17:29.49 | JDjoeka | LoRez: Why? Gnome 2.6 is stable. |
| 17:29.55 | LSorensen | JDjoeka: they didn't want it to interfere with sarge release |
| 17:30.18 | gilga | LSorensen: i was a bad boy and forgot to edit lilo.conf.... |
| 17:30.20 | iceman | about how much space does a caching name server use? |
| 17:30.25 | gilga | ill do that now :) |
| 17:30.27 | LSorensen | gilga: yeah. edit it and run lilo |
| 17:30.40 | LSorensen | gilga: needs initrd=/initrd.img right after image=/vmlinuz |
| 17:30.46 | LSorensen | gilga: then run lilo and reboot |
| 17:30.47 | JDjoeka | LSorensen: Sarge is testing right? And Sid is unstable, how can that interfere with sarge releases then? |
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| 17:31.05 | LSorensen | JDjoeka: because everything that enters testing comes through unstable, and you can't have both 2.4 and 2.6 in unstable |
| 17:31.13 | LSorensen | JDjoeka: any fixes to 2.4 has to go through unstable too |
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| 17:31.24 | MrKeuner | how can I tell dpkg to rewind to an earlier date? |
| 17:31.55 | MrKeuner | can I? |
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| 17:33.06 | gilga | LSorensen: right after? even before the label and stuff like that? just seems odd |
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| 17:33.48 | LSorensen | gilga: yep |
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| 17:34.30 | gilga | rebooting |
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| 17:34.50 | gilga | there I go ^_^ |
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| 17:35.33 | gilga | yay no more kernel panics |
| 17:35.40 | gilga | now its just a kernel picnic |
| 17:35.44 | gilga | O_o |
| 17:36.14 | gilga | LSorensen: now I installl the alsa-modules for my kernel? |
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| 17:37.45 | gilga | uhm. yeah. now I have no ethernet connection. :/ |
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| 17:39.06 | gilga | LSorensen: u there? |
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| 17:39.55 | sabin | my sources.list has a source from experimental and one from unstable, how can I see what versions of the same package are available from each? |
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| 17:40.09 | frealek | hi |
| 17:40.12 | gilga | hi |
| 17:41.00 | gilga | LSorensen: you there? |
| 17:41.04 | RaNdom_ | sabin, u can use synaptic or aptitude... |
| 17:41.15 | g4lt | synaptictude ;P |
| 17:41.22 | eruin | apt, muine ogg |
| 17:41.24 | apt | i haven't a clue, eruin |
| 17:41.26 | RaNdom_ | g4lt, right! |
| 17:41.29 | frealek | I don't remember where I can adjust the detail level of questions asked when configuring a package... can someone refresh my memory ? (dpkg-reconfigure exim doesn't ask anything... I wanna make him listen to localhost only) |
| 17:41.30 | eruin | bah. |
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| 17:41.39 | LSorensen | gilga: yes |
| 17:41.47 | LSorensen | gilga: yeah install the alsa-modules |
| 17:41.58 | somiaj | frealek: dpkg-reconfigure debconf |
| 17:42.03 | frealek | thx ! |
| 17:42.04 | eruin | anyone know what libs I need to have to get muine to play .ogg ? |
| 17:42.08 | gilga | LSorensen: alright. i have no other modules or something now because I cannot access the internet noe |
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| 17:42.30 | LSorensen | gilga: which network card? |
| 17:42.31 | somiaj | eruin: install this package vorbis-tools, it'll pull in the libs you need |
| 17:42.32 | sabin | RaNdom_, actually i need that cuz i'm trying to install synaptic and i can't |
| 17:42.43 | eruin | somiaj, cheers mate ;) |
| 17:42.43 | gilga | sis900 onboard lan on the k7s5a |
| 17:42.48 | frealek | somiaj: well damn, I was already at "low" level |
| 17:42.59 | LSorensen | gilga: add sis900 to /etc/modules, modprobe sis900, /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 17:42.59 | RaNdom_ | sabin, try aptitude |
| 17:43.03 | LSorensen | gilga: that fixes that |
| 17:43.05 | somiaj | frealek: it still asking you too many questions? |
| 17:43.30 | RaNdom_ | sabin, have you installed hnome 2.6 from experimental? |
| 17:43.40 | sabin | RaNdom_, yes |
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| 17:43.52 | sabin | RaNdom_, i can't install aptitude and synaptic for the same reasons |
| 17:44.25 | somiaj | sabin: its called 'experimental' for a reason |
| 17:44.36 | Weeble | heh |
| 17:44.41 | gilga | ok fixed |
| 17:44.46 | borius | i compiled the ne2k-pci.o driver on my system and put it on floppy... from the mini cd i executed a shell and tried loading it... i got an error about kernel version mismatch... ne2k-pci.o version is 2.2.20 and mini cd kernel version is 2.2.20-idepci... wtf?? |
| 17:44.47 | RaNdom_ | sabin, apt-get -t unstable install synaptic |
| 17:45.07 | frealek | somiaj: lol I want it to ask me more questions (low is for "control freaks")... I have some exim package that asks me how should it bind himself (eth0:smtp, localhost:smtp...) but not on this box ! I don't understand why... it's the same package anyway |
| 17:45.07 | sabin | somiaj, i know, i'd like to at least install the synaptic from unstable |
| 17:45.13 | gilga | LSorensen: now install the alsa modules, right, |
| 17:45.21 | RaNdom_ | somiaj, i installed gnome 2.6 from experimental and it works fine |
| 17:45.23 | sabin | RaNdom_, that fails for the same reasons |
| 17:45.42 | borius | is there a special version of 2.2.20 called idepci? |
| 17:45.51 | RaNdom_ | sabin, cp the output |
| 17:46.08 | gilga | apt-get install alsa-modules-2.4.18-k7? |
| 17:46.09 | somiaj | frealek: ahh, if your a control freak, ya should just learn to modify the config files, much easier in the long run, I don't like debconf asking me to manyquestions, I just do the setup my self..(: |
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| 17:46.22 | azreal | anyone know what this might mean? "psmouse.c: Explorer Mouse at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost synchronization, throwing 2 bytes away." |
| 17:46.31 | gilga | or is it apt-get install alsa-modules-2.4.18-1-k7? |
| 17:46.35 | somiaj | RaNdom_: It can work, but it really isn't suggested unless ya know what yer doing |
| 17:46.44 | frealek | somiaj: well, already done, nothing about a "listen" or "bind" or "interface" parameter in exim.conf... |
| 17:46.45 | somiaj | sabin: what errors do you get? |
| 17:46.54 | comet_11 | how would I generate a file of a certain length filled with a given string (or character) ? |
| 17:47.05 | ribnitz | comet_11: dd |
| 17:47.09 | sabin | somiaj synaptic: Depends: libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5-3.3 \n E: Broken packages |
| 17:47.11 | azreal | my mouse has freaked out a few times in the past couple of days, opening windows, pasteing shit, kinda like interference with gpm, when that used to happen, allthough im not running gpm anyways |
| 17:47.21 | frealek | somiaj: I don't usually come here without having searched at least some time by myself |
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| 17:47.32 | somiaj | frealek: is there an exim.conf man page, or anything in /usr/share/doc/exim (I use postifx so can't help ya with exim |
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| 17:47.49 | somiaj | sabin: and what happens if you try to install the libapt packlage? |
| 17:47.49 | frealek | somiaj: thx anyway |
| 17:47.57 | gilga | LSorensen: which is it, alsa-modules-2.4.18-k7 or alsa-modules-2.4.18-1-k7? |
| 17:48.10 | caphuso | frealek: why exactly are you reading the config file instead of the documentation? |
| 17:48.16 | LSorensen | whatever uname -r says. I suspect -1-k7 |
| 17:48.22 | iceman | about how much space does a caching name server use? |
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| 17:48.33 | LSorensen | iceman: I imagine less than 1MB usually |
| 17:48.37 | frealek | caphuso: no exim.conf manpage |
| 17:48.52 | sabin | somiaj, says "apt already newest version" |
| 17:49.04 | caphuso | frealek: oh, sorry, did i accidentally say "the exim.conf man page" instead of "the docs"? |
| 17:49.07 | gilga | ? |
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| 17:49.40 | caphuso | frealek: oh, no, i didn't. okay... why exactly are you making documentation up instead of using the one that actually exists? |
| 17:49.45 | LSorensen | gilga: run uname -r, what does it say? |
| 17:50.24 | gilga | LSorensen: it says it couldn't find the package... |
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| 17:50.36 | LSorensen | gilga: what does uname -r say? |
| 17:51.31 | gilgamesh | E: Couldn't find package alsa-modules-2.4.18-1-k7 and uname -r says 2.4.18-1-k7 |
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| 17:51.36 | frealek | caphuso: originally I came here for what looked like a debian package glitch on my box, I'm no use of debian auto-config stuff if I don't understand why it doesn't ask anything when configuring it. (for exact same version of packages) |
| 17:51.36 | gilgamesh | i am gilga |
| 17:51.41 | LSorensen | gilga: if they don't exist, install alsa-source, and the README in /usr/share/doc/alsa-source/ will tell you how to compile it (install kernel-headers matching your kernel first) |
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| 17:51.51 | gilgamesh | LSorensen: E: Couldn't find package alsa-modules-2.4.18-1-k7 and uname -r says 2.4.18-1-k7 |
| 17:52.12 | gilga | i se |
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| 17:52.14 | LSorensen | gilga: well i guess security updated the kernel, and noone redid the alsa modules. Build them from the alsa-source package then |
| 17:52.33 | d0ugie | when apt-getting gnome, it tells me i need SVG support... which package might that be listed as? |
| 17:52.36 | somiaj | gilga: try an apt cacshe search on the packages |
| 17:52.46 | frealek | caphuso: and if you look in exim's /usr/share/doc you'll probably not find any bind / listen / interface config file entry information |
| 17:53.04 | somiaj | gilgamesh: try apt-cache search alsa-modules and see what the packages named are. |
| 17:53.31 | gilga | how do I know is the headers are mathing my kernel? |
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| 17:53.39 | LSorensen | somiaj: I suspect woody doesn't have any matching the kernel security built |
| 17:53.48 | LSorensen | gilga: apt-get install kernel-headers-`uname -r` |
| 17:53.48 | somiaj | LSorensen: ahh...(: |
| 17:54.00 | dhilus | hi |
| 17:54.11 | d0ugie | LSorense: that is a badass command syntax right there |
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| 17:54.30 | Justin | $ zgrep listen /usr/share/doc/exim/*|grep -c interfa |
| 17:54.30 | Justin | 4 |
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| 17:54.45 | Justin | frealek: how does it feel to be a liar? |
| 17:54.51 | gilga | so I need kernel headers to compile alsa? |
| 17:54.58 | libv | gilga: of course |
| 17:55.05 | g4lt | Justin how does it feel to waste cycles? |
| 17:55.05 | libv | gilga: you are compiling kernel modules |
| 17:55.08 | caphuso | frealek: you don't? |
| 17:55.14 | caphuso | frealek: well, i do |
| 17:55.19 | gilgamesh | hehe |
| 17:55.21 | gilgamesh | lol |
| 17:55.33 | gilgamesh | E: Couldn't find package alsa-modules-2.4.18-1-k7 and uname -r says 2.4.18-1-k7 |
| 17:55.38 | frealek | ... |
| 17:55.39 | gilgamesh | errr |
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| 17:55.43 | gilgamesh | didn't mean to type that |
| 17:55.47 | gilgamesh | that was old crap |
| 17:55.59 | libv | gilga: when you compile something that needs to use, say, gtk+, you need headers for gtk+ to be able to build against it, plain C fact |
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| 17:56.23 | frealek | I don't understand why exim people put info about a config file option, in a COMMAND LINE option doc... |
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| 17:56.45 | Weeble | pfft next you're going to tell me you you like having your functions decaled in C libv ;) |
| 17:56.45 | frealek | this chan is becoming to feel like #linuxfr |
| 17:56.49 | Weeble | er declared |
| 17:57.05 | Weeble | my touch typing isn't THAT good |
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| 17:57.31 | caphuso | frealek: exim people do what? |
| 17:57.34 | shelldos | Is there a app to see the fan rpm and cpu temperature? (debian) |
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| 17:58.07 | g4lt | shelldos lm-sensors |
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| 17:58.34 | shelldos | I don't seem to have that installed. |
| 17:58.44 | g4lt | shelldos install it then, duh |
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| 17:59.00 | shelldos | yeah maybe later.. |
| 17:59.15 | somiaj | shelldos: http://myrddin.org/howto/debian-lmsensors.html |
| 17:59.17 | Phoenix4 | yeah, now mpg321 seems to work fine |
| 17:59.36 | Phoenix4 | how do i get mp3blaster to use alsa? |
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| 17:59.45 | gilga | alright o am checking out the readme file on compiling the alsa modules |
| 17:59.48 | Justin | caphuso: first it isn't in the documentation at all, then it's in the "wrong" place..... |
| 17:59.58 | Phoenix4 | with mpg321 its: mpg321 -o alsa |
| 18:00.17 | Phoenix4 | but mp3blaster tries to use /dev/dsp or /dev/audio |
| 18:00.18 | g4lt | Phoenix4 I've alays found it to Just Work |
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| 18:00.58 | caphuso | Justin: it's also funny, because the local_interfaces option in described in the chapter "main configuration", which has nothing to do with command line options |
| 18:01.00 | Phoenix4 | if I try to use mp3blaster, it says: failed to open sound device |
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| 18:01.15 | gilga | LSorensen: where does apt-get put the alsa source? |
| 18:01.27 | LSorensen | gilga: /usr/src |
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| 18:01.43 | LSorensen | gilga: cd /usr/src; tar xvzf alsa-* |
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| 18:01.58 | Phoenix4 | do I need to make a symbolic link from alsa to /dev/audio or something? |
| 18:01.59 | LSorensen | gilga: /usr/share/doc/alsa-source/ should have a README on what command to use when you have kernel-headers |
| 18:02.01 | ^IcE-bOy^ | hi |
| 18:02.08 | libv | Phoenix4: alsa has oss emulation |
| 18:02.08 | g4lt | Phoenix4 it's clearly specified how to change the output device in hte manpage |
| 18:02.11 | ^IcE-bOy^ | anybody uses reiserfs with quotas ? |
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| 18:02.34 | LSorensen | gilga: something like: KVERS=`uname -r` KSRC=/usr/src/kernel-headers-`uname -r` debian/rules modules_image (in the /usr/src/modules/alsa... dir |
| 18:02.37 | Phoenix4 | libv yes, I installed alsa-oss, but it wont work |
| 18:02.44 | Smerdyakov | How can I view the list of files installed by a package installed with apt-get? |
| 18:02.52 | CAiRO | is there a tool to remove duplicated files from a certain directory? |
| 18:02.53 | Phoenix4 | g4lt in the man page of mp3blaster? |
| 18:03.00 | g4lt | Phoenix4 yes |
| 18:03.03 | libv | Phoenix4: alsa-oss should be a few modules one loads on request |
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| 18:03.35 | Justin | caphuso: it's briefly mentioned in a command line argument as an override or some such... |
| 18:03.37 | sigjuice | I just apt-get upgraged my sarge and I can no longer find firefox in the kde menu |
| 18:03.54 | gilga | O_o |
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| 18:04.23 | Justin | sigjuice: what did you upgrade? |
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| 18:04.55 | gilga | LSorensen: what was that last slur of crap about? |
| 18:04.55 | sigjuice | Justin, I upgraged everything that could be |
| 18:04.59 | Phoenix4 | libv yes, but how do I say mp3blaster to use alsa ? |
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| 18:05.04 | Scars | I have installed apache 1.3 and when I want to start it I get "grep: /etc/apache/httpd.conf: No such file or directory" how do I generate a httpd.conf file? |
| 18:05.12 | g4lt | sigjuice try update-menus, if not, try kappfinder |
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| 18:05.28 | asdfasdf | how much longer until sarge is ready? (stable that is) how many bugs are there to solve? |
| 18:05.40 | g4lt | sigjuice and don't bother with Justin, he's not psychic ;) |
| 18:05.51 | tarzeau | asdfasdf: apt-get.mine.nu/woody-o-meter/ |
| 18:05.52 | libv | Phoenix4: that is not an alsa problem then, that is an mp3blaster problem, maybe if you rephrased that question |
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| 18:06.05 | g4lt | !sarge pool 2 |
| 18:06.20 | dpkg | More bets on when sarge will become stable! paulswm=2004-06-01 Chromakode=2004-02-25 RinzeWind=2004-03-26 FreshUsr=2004-06-18 bytewalker=2004-03-02 Supaplex=Before Y2K38 g4lt=when hell freezes over (don't delete it this time) mechan0r=when_gravity_says_so gravity=when_aj_says_so VynoM=2004-04-16 zu22=2004-02-14 Gnea=2004-06-06 Sinistrad=2004-02-29 mdeboer=2004-07-14 hoxu=2004-03-01 cafuego=2004-13-13 |
| 18:06.40 | gilga | arg biulding alsa os confusing |
| 18:06.41 | asdfasdf | tarzeau: gonna have a look |
| 18:06.56 | majli | Hi, can anybody show me (on google I didn't found) example for hashing iptables rules ? (I have for every IP 2 rules (-d and -s) ) but I have 2000 IP,so I need for better performace hashing iptables rules |
| 18:06.59 | Phoenix4 | libv ok, I want to play an mp3 file with mp3blaster, but I get an error: Failed to open sound device |
| 18:07.00 | idnarhtim | g4lt: "g4lt=when hell freezes over" |
| 18:07.07 | sigjuice | update-menus says, cp: cannot stat `/etc/kde3/debian/d-debian.desktop': No such file or directory |
| 18:07.09 | idnarhtim | g4lt: in other words, right this minute? |
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| 18:07.25 | tarzeau | asdfasdf: the green line needs to go down |
| 18:07.31 | Phoenix4 | libv so I dont know, how to specify the sound device for mp3blaster, it should be alsa |
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| 18:07.47 | idnarhtim | g4lt: http://homepages.tesco.net/~J.deBoynePollard/FGA/when-hell-freezes-over-means-now.html |
| 18:07.47 | libv | Phoenix4: this has been told you before: either go for alsa-oss or either check if mp3blaster is able to support alsa and if so, how to enable it |
| 18:07.55 | libv | Phoenix4: in the first case, check alsa documentation |
| 18:08.04 | libv | Phoenix4: in the second, check mp3blaster documentation |
| 18:08.46 | Phoenix4 | --sound-device/-s=<device>: Device to use to output sound. |
| 18:08.47 | Phoenix4 | Default for your system is /dev/dsp. |
| 18:09.01 | g0atman | Hello, I am having problems with my networking in Debian. When I type "ifconfig" it just returns a blank root@<host>, also when i type ifup eth0 , i get could'nt read interfaces file "/etc/network/interfaces" -- thanks! |
| 18:09.12 | Phoenix4 | but I dont know with is the alsa device in /dev !!! |
| 18:09.34 | gilgamesh | LSorensen: are you in #flood? |
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| 18:09.45 | ruied | in what part of linux, the mounting of partitions is seted up ? inittab? |
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| 18:09.54 | g4lt | g0atman man interfaces |
| 18:10.09 | g4lt | ruied fstab, surprisingly |
| 18:10.38 | g0atman | g4lt: i do not understand that |
| 18:10.41 | ruied | g4lt: but what file calls the fstab? |
| 18:10.42 | Pold-zZzZ | Good afternoon |
| 18:10.47 | g0atman | i do not have a /etc/network folder |
| 18:10.47 | Scars | I have tried to install apache 1.3 but when I want to start it say my httpd.conf is missing, how do I generate a new httpd.conf or how do I make a new httpd.conf |
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| 18:10.51 | Dr_Willis | mount looks in the fstab. |
| 18:11.16 | doon | locate httpd.conf ? |
| 18:11.18 | Dr_Willis | fstab is a data file. not really 'called/ran' - just 'read' by other programs. |
| 18:11.35 | Scars | doon, I don't have any httpd.conf |
| 18:11.43 | Scars | have tried to locate |
| 18:12.02 | gilgamesh | LSorensen: you there? |
| 18:12.59 | doon | a copy is included in source code, |
| 18:12.59 | gilga | LSorensen: u there? |
| 18:12.59 | ruied | yes, what I would like to know is, in what stage of the boot process occurs the mountin of the partitions? |
| 18:12.59 | ruied | after the inittab? before? |
| 18:12.59 | Dr_Willis | inittab is like used by init.. and thats like the FIRST thing that gets setup/ran. |
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| 18:13.00 | ruied | I don't know if I'm making my self clear (I'm Portuguese)... |
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| 18:13.16 | Dr_Willis | inittab has nothign to do with mounting partions as far as i know. |
| 18:13.28 | gilgamesh | anyone here ever compiled the alsa source? |
| 18:13.31 | Dr_Willis | init calls the correct runlevel scripts (somehow) and they then handle it. |
| 18:13.49 | _mechanix | hi! i have a MD with NetMD, there is some software under linux that i can use to edit tracks/send/checkout/checkin (operate the MD) under linux?! |
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| 18:13.56 | mith | Dr_Willis: umm, those "runlevel" (init) scripts are 'part of' init. |
| 18:13.58 | _mechanix | it connects via USB |
| 18:14.19 | ruied | hmm maybe one of the links in the rc.X calls it... is that it? going to check... |
| 18:14.23 | JDjoeka | does anyone know if there bluecurve is availble for debian(in deb format)? |
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| 18:14.32 | Dr_Willis | mith, i was thinking th erunlevel stuff was part of the sysv 'system' |
| 18:14.43 | JDjoeka | does anyone know if bluecurve is availble for debian(in deb format)? |
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| 18:14.47 | markybob | JDjoeka, apt-cache search bluecurve |
| 18:14.54 | Dr_Willis | mith, i play with way too many disrtos. :P i tend to dissect them all. Lol. |
| 18:14.57 | JDjoeka | markybob: didn't find it |
| 18:15.03 | xyz | The font in my gtk1 apps is too small. How can I fix this? |
| 18:15.05 | sigjuice | g4lt: kappfinder found firefox and added it to the kde menu. The icon is messed up though. |
| 18:15.11 | markybob | JDjoeka, the one it does find is a modified bluecurve, it's what you want |
| 18:15.20 | shelldos | How do I list all existing user accounts? |
| 18:15.27 | markybob | JDjoeka, apt-cache show gtk2-engines-lighthouseblue |
| 18:15.29 | JDjoeka | markybob: i would like the one redhat is using |
| 18:15.31 | idnarhtim | Dr_Willis: 'init' is also part of the sysv 'system' |
| 18:15.40 | mrwoody | does anyone here use xmove? I have been trying it but I always get an error like: Unable to create connection to server at localhost. |
| 18:15.43 | markybob | JDjoeka, stop being a troll and read what the package says |
| 18:15.45 | idnarhtim | Dr_Willis: the package is called sysvinit, after all |
| 18:15.48 | Dr_Willis | idnarhtim, but ive seen disrtos that use init without useing sysv - how they manage that. |
| 18:16.00 | gilgamesh | uhm. LSorensen: u there? |
| 18:16.03 | idnarhtim | Dr_Willis: they're using a different init, then |
| 18:16.07 | gilgamesh | or busy? |
| 18:16.13 | idnarhtim | Dr_Willis: or something like that |
| 18:16.19 | mith | ruied: fstab is processed by mountall.sh in debian, which is one of the first scripts to get run. |
| 18:16.22 | Dr_Willis | idnarhtim, or they just ripped out all the scripts and are doing it all from scratch. |
| 18:16.31 | g4lt | sigjuice you can edit that via kmenuedit |
| 18:16.36 | JDjoeka | markybob: sorry, but are you sure that's the one from fedora? |
| 18:16.40 | Dr_Willis | the inittab format was identical. :P of course init just calls one script at the end dosent it? |
| 18:16.44 | Dr_Willis | that then calls the rest? |
| 18:16.51 | ruied | mith: tx |
| 18:17.10 | mith | ruied: of course, ls /etc/init.d would have told you this. |
| 18:17.12 | Dr_Willis | time to do some more dissecting :P fun. |
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| 18:18.06 | libv | heh, bloody mp3blaster depends on SID |
| 18:18.20 | mrwoody | does anyone here use xmove? I have been trying it but I always get an error like: Unable to create connection to server at localhost. |
| 18:18.31 | gilgamesh | hi wake |
| 18:18.35 | libv | surely the people who use that are spread very very thinly |
| 18:18.37 | mith | Dr_Willis: umm you're making no sense, everything you've been talking about is part of init, yes debian uses a sysv style init, other systems use bsd-style init, this isn't some mass complex mystery, in fact, it can be summed up by man init; |
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| 18:18.52 | g4lt | libv you never know when you want to play your commode64 tunes ;P |
| 18:19.08 | Dr_Willis | mith, aha.. sysv init vs bsd init.. I was about to ask what other init's are out :P |
| 18:19.09 | Dr_Willis | lol |
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| 18:19.24 | libv | g4lt: yes, it makes me wish that i was born at least 5ys earlier and with a father who didnt own an x86 |
| 18:19.40 | borius | How do I compile a module that works with 2.2.20-idepci? |
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| 18:20.47 | g4lt | Dr_Willis if you find a SX-64, keep me in mind ;) |
| 18:20.47 | golgotha | hello, i was wondering if there way a way to set the location that make install install_modules places the files? |
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| 18:20.47 | Dr_Willis | g4lt, seen them on ebay i recall.. ive only seen ONE real one of those ever... lol |
| 18:20.47 | golgotha | for a kernel intall |
| 18:20.47 | shelldos | How do I list all existing user accounts? |
| 18:20.47 | g4lt | Dr_Willis why do you think I want to find one cheap? ) |
| 18:20.50 | Dr_Willis | g4lt, other then sitting on a shelf to look cool.. what you plan on doing with it... |
| 18:20.55 | g4lt | shelldos vipw |
| 18:20.58 | Weeble | cat /etc/passwd ? |
| 18:21.05 | mith | shelldos: cat /etc/passwd | cut -d ' ' -f1 |
| 18:21.06 | g4lt | Dr_Willis brush up on my BASIC |
| 18:21.23 | joesmack | does anybody know a patch for this bug: version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference |
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| 18:21.25 | Dr_Willis | g4lt, lol.. I got the VICE emulator running on my handheld gp32 game machine. |
| 18:21.32 | libv | ye gods, 257288kB for an application that uses a console interface |
| 18:21.42 | g4lt | Dr_Willis it just isn't the same... :( |
| 18:21.47 | Dr_Willis | g4lt, lol. |
| 18:21.47 | libv | err |
| 18:21.51 | libv | s/kB/B/ |
| 18:21.55 | g4lt | libv emacs? |
| 18:22.00 | Dr_Willis | g4lt, it plays wavy navy and mule fine however. :P thats what matters. |
| 18:22.03 | va | I have an /etc/rcS.d/S40networking, whitch, I suppose, brings net ifaces up. To ensure that my iptables script starts before that, i would link to it as S39firewall, right? |
| 18:22.05 | mith | libv: so 200k? |
| 18:22.07 | Dr_Willis | g4lt, and paradroids. |
| 18:22.19 | libv | no wonder it doesn't need a seperate library for mp3 playback |
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| 18:22.24 | libv | mith: mp3player |
| 18:22.35 | mith | libv: use mpg123 |
| 18:22.36 | Gnea | hrm |
| 18:22.41 | libv | mith: i'm sure mp3player can be replaced by a very very small python script |
| 18:22.44 | _mechanix | hey , there's some software under Linux to operate NetMD Md Players?! |
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| 18:23.21 | libv | mith: say that to... oh, that idiot seems to have left already |
| 18:23.35 | _mechanix | ?! |
| 18:23.37 | libv | why am i still bothering with this |
| 18:23.48 | mith | I don't even know what you've been talking about. |
| 18:23.52 | libv | *throws off the sidlib and mp3blaster again* |
| 18:23.56 | gilgamesh | anyone here compiled alsa modules before? |
| 18:24.09 | libv | gilgamesh: only since 1999 |
| 18:24.20 | Justin | gilgamesh: I compiled one for every woody kernel |
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| 18:24.31 | markybob | _mechanix, if no one's answered you it means they dont know or dont care and you should do your own research. tried www.freshmeat.net? www.sourceforge.net ? |
| 18:24.42 | _mechanix | markybob : thnx ;-) |
| 18:24.44 | Justin | I think i forgot to link to them though heh |
| 18:24.47 | libv | gilgamesh: does this help your survey? |
| 18:24.59 | libv | gilgamesh: or are you going to need a larger population for it? |
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| 18:26.17 | borius | why is there no kernel-source package for 2.2.20-idepci? |
| 18:26.26 | borius | where can i get the source for that version of the kernel |
| 18:26.32 | g4lt | I've compiled alsa modules when they weren't in the ree, does that count? ;P |
| 18:26.32 | borius | there is only 2.2.20 |
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| 18:26.41 | borius | and 2.2.20 modules wont work with 2.2.20-idepci |
| 18:26.49 | g4lt | !tell borius about install kernels |
| 18:26.55 | g4lt | !tell borius about install-kernels |
| 18:26.57 | Gnea | borius: it exists still |
| 18:27.01 | libv | gilgamesh: i have quite some experience in undernet linux related channels |
| 18:27.11 | borius | Gnea: where |
| 18:27.12 | libv | gilgamesh: the norm there is to make people cry when they msg you |
| 18:27.15 | g4lt | !topicsmite gilgamesh |
| 18:27.15 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon gilgamesh. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 18:27.27 | Justin | gilgamesh: http://s.bouncybouncy.net/alsa_debs/ , knock yourself out |
| 18:27.29 | g0atman | i need help |
| 18:27.32 | Gnea | borius: in apt - you running stable? |
| 18:27.35 | g4lt | libv I go straight to the screaming |
| 18:27.36 | libv | gilgamesh: i'm just going to ignore you for now |
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| 18:27.39 | g0atman | my network device doesnt show up inifconfig |
| 18:27.47 | gilgamesh | heh |
| 18:27.58 | borius | Gnea: i run sid on this box... i need to get a module called ne2k-pci.o to another box which im installing woody on |
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| 18:28.06 | libv | g4lt: i'm just a cruel git :p |
| 18:28.07 | borius | Gnea: so i need to compile the module here |
| 18:28.09 | Gnea | !tell g0atman about interfaces |
| 18:28.11 | Justin | only ever used the 586tsc one, but i'm sure all the other ones work too |
| 18:28.36 | Gnea | borius: nice - got sid on here too - if i apt-cache search kernel-source it shows up |
| 18:28.39 | libv | g4lt: and screaming is not good for the voice |
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| 18:28.43 | g0atman | IT DIDNT HELP! |
| 18:28.47 | g4lt | !tell borius about proper kernel |
| 18:29.05 | sigjuice | g4lt: did debian remove the firefox icon due to legal issues? |
| 18:29.05 | Gnea | g0atman: then don't cry at me about it |
| 18:29.05 | g4lt | libv who said I cared about his voice after? |
| 18:29.07 | borius | Gnea: apt-cache search kernel-source|grep idepci gives me nothing |
| 18:29.07 | libv | g4lt: it might ruin my showers :p |
| 18:29.17 | g4lt | sigjuice no, it's there, prolly in /usr/share/icons |
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| 18:29.23 | libv | it would improve my relationship with the neighbours and family members though |
| 18:29.24 | Gnea | borius: ah but did you see me type |grep idepci ? :) |
| 18:29.31 | gilgamesh | libv: think you could give me a hand? I am having alsa compile issues, and stuff |
| 18:29.34 | borius | g4lt: i cant install the frelling 2.4 kernel if i got no net access on the box |
| 18:29.38 | Justin | borius: why are you using idepci |
| 18:29.48 | borius | Justin: im trying to install woody on a box |
| 18:29.49 | g4lt | libv no, I make the gits that /msg me scream instead of cry |
| 18:29.52 | borius | Justin: im doing it with a mini cd |
| 18:29.52 | Gnea | borius: get kernel-source-2.2.20 it's got what you need |
| 18:29.58 | Justin | borius: so? why are you using idepci |
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| 18:30.01 | borius | Justin: the mini cd doesnt have the ne2k-pci.o module |
| 18:30.04 | g4lt | borius what's your NIC? |
| 18:30.14 | borius | g4lt: something that works with ne2k-pci.o module |
| 18:30.23 | markybob | heh |
| 18:30.25 | markybob | that was precious |
| 18:30.32 | borius | how the hell am i supposed to upgrade the kernel on a box with no net access |
| 18:30.41 | borius | i need to get the eth driver to it first |
| 18:30.47 | LoRez | borius: with a cd |
| 18:30.49 | thomas_adam | borius: Get the source from a CD? |
| 18:30.54 | borius | got no cd burner atm |
| 18:30.57 | Justin | borius: why are you using idepci |
| 18:31.02 | g4lt | borius you're going to either hafve to sneakernet a 20M kernel source package or a 3M kernel, your choice |
| 18:31.05 | Gnea | borius: copy the .config from that machine over to another machine somehow |
| 18:31.07 | markybob | Justin, give up |
| 18:31.07 | thomas_adam | borius: although how the hell you're able to talk to us *with* net access is interesting. |
| 18:31.09 | libv | g4lt: oh, i see, i like them better when they cry, all that screaming is too intrusive :p ruins the mood sort of thing |
| 18:31.09 | eruin | borius, I use the businesscard-cd, and that included the ne2k-pci module |
| 18:31.09 | gilgamesh | could someone give me a hand with a lack of knowledge on an alsa module compile? it seems.... overwhelming |
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| 18:31.22 | thomas_adam | gilgamesh: Can you read? |
| 18:31.32 | Gnea | !read |
| 18:31.32 | dpkg | rumour has it, read is what no one does these days, especially ex-redhat users who expect EVERYTHING to appear infront of them without fuss. or what you must do in order to learn. 'man <something>', 'apropos <something>', or check out the files in /usr/share/doc/<PACKAGE> |
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| 18:31.42 | libv | ex-redhat? |
| 18:31.44 | g4lt | borius how he hell were you planning to get the 25M kernel-source package on your machine then? |
| 18:31.44 | gilgamesh | thomas_adam: sure |
| 18:31.51 | borius | g4lt: k, so i should just floppy the 2.2.20 kernel over to the box? |
| 18:31.54 | thomas_adam | gilgamesh: that's a start. Off you go then. |
| 18:31.57 | Justin | not only is he dumb enough to use idepci, he is dumb enough to use idepci and whine when he can't find ne2k-pci when its built into the fucking kernel |
| 18:32.01 | borius | g4lt: i was planning on compiling the ne2k-pci module and put it on floppy |
| 18:32.05 | libv | ah, yes, keep on forgetting that this is #debian, that no slackware users wander in here |
| 18:32.06 | gilgamesh | thomas_adam: :) |
| 18:32.23 | g4lt | borius just sneakernet a kernel-image |
| 18:32.28 | borius | g4lt: k |
| 18:32.35 | g4lt | libv no, htey do't wander out ALIVE |
| 18:32.43 | gilgamesh | thomas_adam: :/ |
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| 18:33.08 | Gnea | Justin: he's even worse than g0atman, who seems to have figured out that maybe actually RTFM might help |
| 18:33.13 | MAnius | czêsc potrzebuje pomocy |
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| 18:33.26 | Gnea | !spanish |
| 18:33.26 | g4lt | Justin and precisely how are you aiding ANYONE by whining about his whining? |
| 18:33.27 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish speakers: please go to #debian-es, you will get a lot more help there. |
| 18:33.27 | MAnius | kto jest z polski !!!!!! |
| 18:33.30 | trippy | Maybe he needs to go to the same site g0atman went to... |
| 18:33.38 | RichiH | ~pl |
| 18:33.41 | apt | i guess pl is sometimes referred to as \"packet loss\" |
| 18:33.45 | RichiH | narf |
| 18:33.46 | borius | maybe you guys should come over here and go thru what i go thru :) then u wouldnt whine about my whining |
| 18:33.46 | Gnea | !polish |
| 18:33.47 | dpkg | i guess polish is spoken in #debian.pl (not here). Or something used to make things shiny, or a really good sausage. |
| 18:33.48 | RichiH | !pl |
| 18:33.49 | Justin | he's going to spend hours compiling ne2k-pci.o, then wonder why he can't load it |
| 18:33.49 | dpkg | i guess pl is sometimes referred to as "packet loss" |
| 18:33.57 | MAnius | potrzebuje pomocy |
| 18:34.11 | RichiH | MAnius: /join #debian.pl |
| 18:34.13 | MAnius | korcze niewiem jak knoppixa zainstalowac na dysk:( |
| 18:34.15 | g4lt | Justin uhm, no he isn't, he's goijg to sneakernet a kernel-image |
| 18:34.17 | corr | what the hell is going on |
| 18:34.21 | Gnea | MAnius: we don't understand you. /join #debian.pl |
| 18:34.29 | Justin | g4lt: maybe you should beat it into him that his ethernet card is already working? |
| 18:34.30 | markybob | corr a lot of hate and discontent |
| 18:34.31 | gilgamesh | alright the readme on alsa module compilation is confusing me. could someone explain to me step 2? i will paste it into #flood |
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| 18:35.00 | corr | markybob just the way i like it |
| 18:35.00 | Gnea | i left #flood |
| 18:35.06 | libv | haha, asking a question about knoppix in #debian in polish |
| 18:35.13 | g4lt | Justin has it occured to you that ne2k-pci changed between 2.2 and 2.4? |
| 18:35.15 | Justin | gilgamesh: http://s.bouncybouncy.net/alsa_debs/make_debs_alsa.txt |
| 18:35.17 | Gnea | libv: rofl |
| 18:35.32 | Justin | g4lt: he's the one that wants to use idepci |
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| 18:35.44 | gilgamesh | justin: what does this script do? |
| 18:35.59 | gilgamesh | i have an idea but.... just in case. |
| 18:36.06 | Justin | gilgamesh: install the kernel headers for your kernel, uncomment the tar line, and run it |
| 18:36.07 | Gnea | hrm |
| 18:36.25 | borius | Justin: i have no choice |
| 18:36.40 | borius | Justin: i use an unofficial mini cd, mkay? it uses idepci |
| 18:36.40 | Justin | borius: and why is that? |
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| 18:36.45 | Gnea | borius: why can't you connect it to the 'net? |
| 18:36.45 | g4lt | borius did you sneakernet the kernel-image already? |
| 18:36.54 | corr | i am going to make a distribution with a package manager that automatically keeps track of dependencies, installing and uninstalling said deps along with the packages that require them |
| 18:37.02 | Justin | borius: and you are using this shitty mini cd why? |
| 18:37.02 | borius | Justin: get this: i have 2 boxes |
| 18:37.03 | corr | it is going to take the linux community by storm |
| 18:37.12 | g4lt | borius if you haven't, you should be too busy to argue |
| 18:37.19 | idnarhtim | corr: is it by any chance going to be called "Debian'? |
| 18:37.23 | borius | g4lt: im compiling the 2.2.20 kernel now |
| 18:37.26 | Gnea | corr: come back with some real numbers, kid |
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| 18:37.35 | corr | no sir, it will be named after me and my girlfriend |
| 18:37.39 | Justin | corr: still banned from trolling in #gentoo? |
| 18:37.42 | libv | corr: you mean, "slightly extend dpkg" |
| 18:37.42 | Gnea | lol |
| 18:37.46 | corr | melicky |
| 18:37.51 | idnarhtim | libv: 'aptitude' |
| 18:37.55 | LoRez | corr: you would have to have a girlfriend first |
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| 18:38.05 | corr | Justin: if i wanted to evade the ban, i would. or troll lilo into letting me back in. |
| 18:38.07 | g4lt | borius uhm, I said to get the kernel-image, not to compile a broken kernel |
| 18:38.10 | corr | LoRez :'( i do. |
| 18:38.18 | LoRez | more like handicky |
| 18:38.29 | corr | her name is melissa silly boy |
| 18:38.30 | libv | aptitude is higher level than dpkg, aptitude keeps track of dependencies and uninstalls those too? |
| 18:38.31 | Gnea | LoRez: no no, see.... |
| 18:38.32 | trippy | LoRez: There are some *really* stupid women out there (and men of course...), you think that corr might not have found one? |
| 18:38.33 | Justin | borius: you have 2? thats nice, I have 8 or so, now why are you using idepci |
| 18:38.33 | borius | g4lt: k, where is the kernel image stored? i already got it with apt |
| 18:38.35 | Gnea | lol |
| 18:38.36 | corr | and hse is a real gurl |
| 18:38.43 | g0atman | my networking doesnt work, interfaces is configured correctl ythough |
| 18:38.47 | Gnea | and your name is icky |
| 18:38.53 | Justin | !tell g0atman about doesn't work |
| 18:38.53 | g0atman | my networking doesnt work, interfaces is configured correctl ythough |
| 18:38.53 | g4lt | borius your working machine is using Debian? |
| 18:38.59 | borius | g4lt: yup |
| 18:39.04 | corr | LoRez i cant tell if you are messing with me, or if you are hating on me |
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| 18:39.09 | corr | Gnea no my name is ricky |
| 18:39.09 | corr | but melricky doesnt sound right |
| 18:39.18 | corr | then again, my plan means nothing |
| 18:39.22 | trippy | g0atman: that not sort out the problem? |
| 18:39.23 | g0atman | my networking doesnt work, interfaces is configured correctly though |
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| 18:39.25 | thomas_adam | corr: Melarky? |
| 18:39.28 | Gnea | of course it doesn't, it doesn't exist |
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| 18:39.29 | corr | because when i take over the debian project, there will be no need |
| 18:39.37 | gilgamesh | Justin: what post-makde_deb_alsa.txt configurations remain? |
| 18:39.42 | Gnea | h0h0h0 |
| 18:39.42 | corr | surrender while you still have a chance |
| 18:39.45 | Saw^ | I got this line in dmesg: "IrDA: Registered SigmaTel device irda0", so where is that device then, should it be /dev/irda0? |
| 18:39.47 | LoRez | corr: quit trolling. you're doing it poorly. |
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| 18:39.49 | gilgamesh | make_deb_alsa* |
| 18:39.51 | Gnea | now that is some funny ass shit |
| 18:40.05 | Justin | gilgamesh: install the deb it made, then install the alsa userland stuff |
| 18:40.23 | g4lt | borius then apt-get -d kernel-image-2.4.26-<processor family> |
| 18:40.26 | gilgamesh | it makes a deb package? O_o |
| 18:40.27 | corr | LoRez i am not trolling. if i were trolling, you'd know it by the kickbans left and right. in any case, why can i not attempt to make friends? is this somehow disallowed? |
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| 18:40.30 | gilgamesh | lol |
| 18:40.32 | Gnea | Saw^: uh, no... that would be a network-type device.. try ifconfig |
| 18:40.47 | g4lt | borius ...rocessor family on the TARGET machine |
| 18:40.48 | gilgamesh | Justin: where will it place / name this deb package? |
| 18:41.08 | Gnea | corr: no it's called "your distro doesn't exist so stop talking shit while you still can" |
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| 18:41.12 | Justin | gilgamesh: /usr/src I believe |
| 18:41.14 | libv | corr: the amazing thing is that you are thinking about replacing debian altogether |
| 18:41.16 | Justin | gilgamesh: you're not using woody? |
| 18:41.18 | gilgamesh | ls |
| 18:41.24 | gilgamesh | no i use woody |
| 18:41.27 | corr | no sir, that was merely a joke |
| 18:41.28 | libv | corr: instead of replacing the package manager or extending it |
| 18:41.30 | Saw^ | Gnea: ifconfig? nothing changed there? or should I add there something? |
| 18:41.33 | Justin | no, the amazing thing is that corr is a troll, and you're too dumb to notice |
| 18:41.34 | corr | i do intend on taking over the project though |
| 18:41.41 | g4lt | libv so? knopper said that once.... |
| 18:41.45 | Justin | gilgamesh: then install the debs from that url that matches your kernel |
| 18:41.45 | Gnea | Saw^: ifconfig irda0 |
| 18:41.54 | Gnea | Saw^: does it show anything? |
| 18:42.09 | libv | g4lt: and he ended up creating something plainly debian based? :p |
| 18:42.12 | Saw^ | well something... |
| 18:42.12 | Gnea | Justin: stfu, i know he's a troll |
| 18:42.19 | gilgamesh | Justin: there are no debs for alsa-modules for my kernel, 2.4.18-1-k7 |
| 18:42.20 | g0atman | fuck u guyz |
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| 18:42.30 | libv | g4lt: debian in a slightly more "userfriendly" package? |
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| 18:42.37 | corr | Justin perhaps you should take a course in logic. a = b. b's sometimes c. a always c's. it doesn't follow. |
| 18:42.39 | Gnea | g0atman: debian is not for you. go back to windows. |
| 18:42.40 | Saw^ | Gnea: #flood ? |
| 18:42.40 | borius | g4lt: um it cant find the 585 one |
| 18:42.47 | nico_ | hello all |
| 18:42.47 | Gnea | !lart g0atman |
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| 18:43.13 | g4lt | borius there is no 585 ;P do you want pentium-tsc or k6? |
| 18:43.18 | Gnea | Saw^: ok |
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| 18:43.30 | borius | g4lt: uhm pentium i guess |
| 18:43.44 | g4lt | borius p-mmx or not? |
| 18:43.55 | Gnea | Saw^: ok the device exists, now you just need to configure your irda to do something (what that is i don't know so i don't know what must be done) |
| 18:43.57 | MrKeuner | can I tell dpkg to uninstall/downgrade all the packages that were not there at a specific date? |
| 18:43.58 | g4lt | borius better, you tell me what your processor is |
| 18:44.03 | gilgamesh | Justin: do I have to add the new apt source via apt-setup so it checks that directory for the deb or is there an easier way? |
| 18:44.30 | borius | g4lt: pentium 3 on the server |
| 18:44.35 | borius | g4lt: coppermine or something |
| 18:44.46 | g4lt | borius try 686 |
| 18:44.47 | gilgamesh | Justin: also, thanks you've beena big help! |
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| 18:45.04 | sabin | does anyone know if the networking (smb stuff) from gnome 2.6 works fine in the packages from experimental? |
| 18:45.19 | g4lt | borius .this IS on the machine you're trying to get up, no? |
| 18:45.31 | comet_11 | hmm, at what offset would I find the disk size in an ext2 formatted floppy? |
| 18:45.45 | borius | g4lt: im talking from my main box... not the machine im trying to set up |
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| 18:45.56 | Justin | gilgamesh: you can just download the deb and install it |
| 18:46.02 | Gnea | comet_11: damn that's a good question |
| 18:46.15 | g4lt | borius I want to know what processor is on the machine you're trying to set up |
| 18:46.18 | gilgamesh | erm justin: we just made the deb, we aren't downloading it via apt-get |
| 18:46.38 | gilgamesh | correct? |
| 18:46.44 | comet_11 | heh, I spent about two hours barking up the wrong tree thinking I'd find it in the partition table |
| 18:46.57 | comet_11 | until I worked out that floppies don't have partition tables |
| 18:47.01 | Gnea | heh |
| 18:47.15 | g4lt | comet_11 I think it's on track17 |
| 18:47.24 | yang | When I run debian on a 100mhz machine everything crawls, comparing to win95 which can run multiple applications without lag |
| 18:47.44 | Gnea | yang: hahahha you spew bullshit |
| 18:47.46 | comet_11 | any idea what that would be in bytes? I could probably work it out, but I might get it wrong |
| 18:47.49 | g4lt | comet_11 ...but that may be my old-sk00l TRSDOS talking |
| 18:47.52 | borius | g4lt: i told you... |
| 18:47.54 | Justin | gilgamesh: did you make the deb or not? |
| 18:48.06 | borius | g4lt: not stupid :) |
| 18:48.10 | gilgamesh | yes I made the deb and it is in /usr/src/modules |
| 18:48.29 | g4lt | borius the P3 is your target? in that case use the 686 kernel, it sings on my katmai |
| 18:48.29 | gilgamesh | how do I install a deb which is located on the local filesystem? |
| 18:48.48 | borius | g4lt: got it now |
| 18:48.50 | g4lt | gilgamesh dpkg -i (man dpkg for details) |
| 18:48.52 | borius | g4lt: where is it stored |
| 18:49.03 | g4lt | borius /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 18:49.05 | Gnea | dpkg -i /usr/src/modules/somepackage.deb |
| 18:49.06 | gilgamesh | sorry, i must be unclear... thanks |
| 18:49.07 | ninja_ | gilgamesh: dpkg -i /path/to/*.deb |
| 18:49.10 | yang | Gnea: 1 browser and 5 xterms and my memory is full, on windows95 I can run several aps |
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| 18:49.23 | Justin | !tell yang about free ram |
| 18:49.34 | libv | yang: what are you running on that p100 |
| 18:49.35 | borius | g4lt: found it |
| 18:49.41 | borius | g4lt: /var/cache/apt/archives right? |
| 18:49.42 | Gnea | yang: that's bullshit. even on 32 megs of ram you'd still have some free memory. methinks you don't understand how linux VM works. |
| 18:49.44 | gilgamesh | yay it appears to be installed |
| 18:49.46 | gilgamesh | i think |
| 18:49.50 | g4lt | borius then sneakernet already ;) |
| 18:50.02 | borius | g4lt: no unpacking? |
| 18:50.17 | g4lt | borius no, you'll do that on the target machine |
| 18:50.26 | gilgamesh | ALSA driver isn't running. |
| 18:50.26 | gilgamesh | Starting ALSA sound driver (version 0.9.0beta12): (card-emu10k1) |
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| 18:50.40 | gilgamesh | yay, i think |
| 18:50.40 | Justin | and this is somehow easier than just using bf2.4... |
| 18:50.45 | Justin | gilgamesh: lsmod |
| 18:50.46 | libv | yang: which browser |
| 18:50.51 | yang | Gnea: It takes 30 seconds for one window to appear over the other when I run browser |
| 18:50.53 | streuner | gilgamesh: why do you think you need ALSA at all? |
| 18:51.11 | gilgamesh | streuner: sound |
| 18:51.17 | libv | yang: because "just a browser" could just as well be mozilla |
| 18:51.17 | Gnea | yang: how long have you ever been running linux? a week? |
| 18:51.23 | g4lt | Justin it's a hell of a lot easier than using something that's [rpresumably] nonexistent |
| 18:51.32 | streuner | gilgamesh: OSS run for me fine with my SB live. |
| 18:51.38 | streuner | s/run/runs/ |
| 18:51.53 | gilgamesh | Justin it doesn't appear to be there.... |
| 18:52.00 | yang | libv: i replaced mozilla with dillo |
| 18:52.31 | gilgamesh | sound soundcore, stuff like that. what is the name of the alsa module? |
| 18:52.34 | Gnea | yang: ultimately that's not going to scale worth a shit, because you can easily open 30 xterms on that machine - but the second you open 30 apps in win95 on that same machine then you're going to run into some real problems. |
| 18:52.38 | Justin | g4lt: I fail to see how sneakernetting 6+ floppies for the kernel image is easier than using 6 bf2.4 floppies |
| 18:52.50 | comet_11 | ok, 80 tracks, 18 sectors, 512 bytes per sector... I want the first sector of track 17, so that's (16*18+1)*512, right? |
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| 18:53.05 | X-Ray5 | alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device; anyone know what this means? |
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| 18:53.14 | Justin | actually, the bf2.4 floppies you would only need 2 |
| 18:53.19 | g4lt | Justin that's because you're blind |
| 18:53.24 | Justin | g4lt: so tell me, how is 6+ floppies easier than 2? |
| 18:53.25 | corr | comet_11 hmm, i believe iti s (54665*12)/5765678 |
| 18:53.57 | gilgamesh | Justin: what is the name of the ALSA module? that should appear in lsmod? ill likely need to modprobe it first, what is its name? |
| 18:54.08 | corr | more is always better than less |
| 18:54.20 | Gnea | unless you need to scroll |
| 18:54.21 | borius | g4lt: i got an idea |
| 18:54.25 | Justin | gilgamesh: theres a ton of them, thats what the other alsa packages are for |
| 18:54.26 | corr | lol |
| 18:54.27 | comet_11 | damnit, I'm totally stabbing in the dark here, I should just give up and find out how to do it the proper way |
| 18:54.29 | corr | true |
| 18:54.31 | Gnea | like a troll |
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| 18:54.36 | borius | g4lt: i have a suse install disc... maybe i can boot up with that and install kernel directly to the box |
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| 18:54.43 | Gnea | who's dug himself a hole |
| 18:54.47 | corr | Gnea troll? where? |
| 18:54.49 | borius | g4lt: i think suse comes with a more recent kernel |
| 18:54.54 | gilgamesh | Justin: then, what should I do now? should sound be working right NOW? should I test it out? |
| 18:54.58 | corr | someone kickban the troll |
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| 18:55.05 | borius | g4lt: do you know if it has an "execute shell" like the debian one has |
| 18:55.09 | Gnea | corr: ah go smoke a bowl |
| 18:55.16 | g4lt | borius th time to tell me this would have been about ten minutes ago ;P |
| 18:55.22 | Justin | borius: you could also just use the damn 2.4 kernel floppies already |
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| 18:55.56 | RichiH_ | LoRez: heh, i do not think he meant that ;) |
| 18:56.09 | g4lt | borius ry the rescu or whatever target, use root=/dev/hda1 (or wherever you put your / partition) |
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| 18:56.28 | Gnea | RichiH_: that kid was massively annoying |
| 18:56.29 | borius | g4lt: um?? |
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| 18:56.44 | borius | g4lt: oh nvm |
| 18:56.45 | LoRez | lol: <corr> well someone unkickban the troll |
| 18:56.47 | Gnea | how now brown cow? |
| 18:56.52 | g4lt | borius you know how to boot via syslinux,right? |
| 18:57.06 | RichiH_ | Gnea: i did not say anything to contrdict that, did i? :) |
| 18:57.06 | borius | g4lt: since i dont know what it is, no |
| 18:57.09 | corr | in the words of the immortal linus torvalds, "corr is the coolest linux guru ever." |
| 18:57.20 | Gnea | RichiH_: good point ;) |
| 18:57.21 | LoRez | corr: watch it. |
| 18:57.22 | g4lt | borius it's a CD/floppy bootloader |
| 18:57.29 | comet_11 | hmm |
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| 18:57.34 | RichiH_ | in the words of RichiH: use a second chance if you get one |
| 18:57.42 | Gnea | heh |
| 18:57.45 | Lorvija | hiya guys.. im trying to install mysq with apt-get but apt-get install mysql-* doesnt seem to work.. whats the right packages name? |
| 18:57.57 | LoRez | Lorvija: mysql-server |
| 18:58.01 | Lorvija | ok |
| 18:58.03 | Gnea | Lorvija: apt-cache search mysql- |
| 18:58.12 | Gnea | Lorvija: should give you a nice list |
| 18:58.12 | g4lt | RichiH couldn't you have done us a favor and ghosted so we could abcomplete your nick? ;P |
| 18:58.29 | Lorvija | Gnea ok, thx =) |
| 18:58.32 | X-Ray5 | alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device; anyone know why my alsa drivers will not work with it? |
| 18:58.35 | RichiH | g4lt: no, you have to suffer! mwhaha! |
| 18:58.38 | Lorvija | and LoRez thx to you too = |
| 18:58.39 | Lorvija | =) |
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| 18:58.47 | Gnea | Lorvija: np |
| 18:58.50 | comet_11 | okay, I've got "0E 4F", as in 79 tracks, 14 sectors... why 14? |
| 18:58.58 | Justin | X-Ray5: you don't have any alsa drivers. |
| 18:59.01 | borius | g4lt: k... |
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| 18:59.17 | g4lt | comet_11 it reserves 2 sectors per track for errors |
| 18:59.23 | RichiH | g4lt: i would prefer it if you answered my question if recursive languages are a subset of recursively enumerbale langauges, by the way ;) |
| 18:59.38 | gilgamesh | Justin: next what do I do? lsmod doesn't show anything alsa, but i haven't done this before. should alsa work now? |
| 18:59.49 | borius | g4lt: i just need to get net access working on the box so i can dl the proper kernel there... sneakering takes too long :) |
| 18:59.54 | X-Ray5 | Justin: i did before i restarted |
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| 19:00.05 | Justin | gilgamesh: it won't show "alsa" it would show snd..... stuff |
| 19:00.11 | comet_11 | so that's 16... but isn't it meant to be 18? |
| 19:00.12 | g4lt | RichiH I wasn't aware you asked it, butI'd have to say no, because enumerable languages aren't a full subset of languages |
| 19:00.12 | lamp | How do I make my 2320 aztech soundcard work |
| 19:00.18 | Justin | X-Ray5: you had them loaded before you restarted |
| 19:00.27 | Gnea | lamp: load a module |
| 19:00.35 | X-Ray5 | how do i load them/ make them laod automaticly |
| 19:00.36 | Justin | borius: what the hell is your problem? |
| 19:00.39 | g4lt | borius wuss. what would you have done in the days of 2400 baud modems? ;P |
| 19:00.52 | gilgamesh | Justin: snd stuff? |
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| 19:00.58 | streuner | lamp: and read /msg dpkg sound |
| 19:01.02 | Justin | borius: you can't make 2 floppy images? |
| 19:01.07 | RichiH | g4lt: i meant rec \in rec enum; not rec enum \in rec |
| 19:01.13 | gilgamesh | Justin: I see soundcore and sound etc..... |
| 19:01.18 | borius | g4lt: dude, the kernel was 13 megs |
| 19:01.18 | g4lt | comet_11 okay, I'm bad at math. what can I say, I play the lottery... |
| 19:01.24 | Gnea | g4lt: lol.. 2400... go make a pizza! |
| 19:01.26 | comet_11 | :P |
| 19:01.30 | borius | g4lt: heh |
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| 19:01.37 | g4lt | Gnea ...from scratch ;P |
| 19:01.39 | comet_11 | well, I'm going to change it to 32 and hope I don't get shot in the face |
| 19:01.42 | Gnea | g4lt: yeah ;) |
| 19:02.09 | comet_11 | well, it loaded without exploding, that's a good sign |
| 19:02.20 | gilgamesh | Justin: may I query you for a second? |
| 19:02.26 | Justin | gilgamesh: no |
| 19:02.28 | g4lt | lamp throw it out the window, it'll do as Aztech intended and fly |
| 19:02.33 | gilgamesh | :/ |
| 19:02.35 | yang | Gnea: I cannot run xchat & netscape & something else without filling my ram to the maximum on debian, but I can open all those in win95 without some major lag. I dunno how memory management in windows works, but it uses much less ram |
| 19:03.04 | lamp | Wen I setup this module my network card does not work |
| 19:03.30 | libv | lamp: www.alsa-project.org for soundcard specific information |
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| 19:03.38 | g4lt | lamp I'm surprised your CPI still works wih a packard-be^Waztech card |
| 19:03.39 | Gnea | yang: you are not providing any information regarding what's running on your machine. thus you are a liar and have already proven that you don't know what you are talking about. |
| 19:03.39 | gilgamesh | Justin: there is no snd anything in lsmod, there is soundcore sound and stuff like that though.... what is the next step. I commend you for being so patient as to deal with and help noobs like me ^_^ |
| 19:03.47 | g4lt | CPU even |
| 19:03.54 | sussudio | god, i hate dogs. |
| 19:04.05 | libv | this card, is this an isa card, and is your network card an isa too? |
| 19:04.07 | X-Ray5 | alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device; anyone know why my alsa drivers will not work with it? |
| 19:04.09 | Justin | gilgamesh: install alsa-base or alsa-conf, whatever else is in woody |
| 19:04.13 | Gnea | sussudio: me too |
| 19:04.21 | Gnea | i'm getting a kitten when i move out |
| 19:04.26 | g4lt | libv aztech didn't survive into PCI |
| 19:04.28 | sussudio | Gnea: the dog downstairs is shitting all over the backyard and a week later it eats it... |
| 19:04.36 | g4lt | ...thankfully |
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| 19:04.44 | gilgamesh | Justin: already did |
| 19:04.46 | g4lt | sussudio good for him |
| 19:04.56 | libv | g4lt: yes, i thought as much, but it always pays to get clarity on such a matter |
| 19:04.58 | g4lt | self-cleaning |
| 19:05.00 | Gnea | sussudio: dog's are lazy employees - cats are managers |
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| 19:05.07 | sussudio | g4lt: well shit + maggots |
| 19:05.12 | lamp | I have modconf installed the module for the soundcard and then the network card wood not work |
| 19:05.15 | g4lt | sussudio protein |
| 19:05.22 | libv | i have sitting in the mess on my desk somewhere |
| 19:05.25 | libv | +one |
| 19:05.28 | Justin | gilgamesh: try loading snd-emu101 or whatevr it's called |
| 19:05.45 | lamp | And i have not the money to bye a creative soundcard |
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| 19:05.54 | sussudio | lamp: you don't have 10 dollah? |
| 19:06.01 | X-Ray5 | Justin: i might be having the same issue has gilgamesh |
| 19:06.04 | X-Ray5 | *as |
| 19:06.07 | yang | Gnea: A liar, man arent you a bit rude for no reason? |
| 19:06.11 | g4lt | libv you had a packard-hell? I'm sorry.... |
| 19:06.12 | Justin | X-Ray5: might |
| 19:06.18 | looksaus | I'm trying to get xfree to work |
| 19:06.21 | X-Ray5 | my mixer will not launch |
| 19:06.22 | libv | heh, what do you know, 2320 |
| 19:06.24 | Gnea | yang: oh is that what this is about? you think i'm being rude? heh. |
| 19:06.25 | lamp | a creative soundcard cost 60 euro |
| 19:06.25 | Justin | yang: are you being vague for a reason? |
| 19:06.29 | looksaus | using a laptop with a 2.6 kernel |
| 19:06.29 | libv | g4lt: they were sold seperately |
| 19:06.37 | libv | g4lt: i remember reading a review on it |
| 19:06.38 | sussudio | lamp: yes, a fucking audigy... not a sb128. |
| 19:06.41 | X-Ray5 | Justin: can u help me? |
| 19:06.44 | gilgamesh | Justin: dumping output into #flood tell me if you see it |
| 19:06.49 | libv | i got this particular card just a little while ago though |
| 19:06.57 | looksaus | it's complaining: |
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| 19:07.08 | Hal9002 | if i install syslog-ng, will it replace syslogd? |
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| 19:07.17 | Justin | gilgamesh: do you already have emu10k1 loaded? |
| 19:07.18 | sleazegrinder | Hal9002: yes |
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| 19:07.21 | looksaus | xf!§OpenSerial: cannot open device psaux |
| 19:07.24 | Gnea | Hal9002: yup |
| 19:07.29 | Justin | X-Ray5: setup the alsa modules correctly |
| 19:07.33 | gilgamesh | emu10k1 is loaded, not snd-emi10k1 |
| 19:07.33 | yang | Gnea: I am running 5 xterms (1.5mb each) & dillo (5mb) & gtop (5mb) and my memory of 24+48swap is out |
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| 19:07.38 | looksaus | xf86OpenSerial, I mean... |
| 19:07.43 | gilgamesh | with a u not an i |
| 19:07.44 | g4lt | libv why would you WANT to buy one separately? that's like saying that the 5.25" drive was available separately from the XT |
| 19:07.47 | X-Ray5 | Justin: well yes I assume sob/c it was working fine before |
| 19:07.49 | Hal9002 | is syslog-ng good enough for a production environment or am i safer with syslogd? |
| 19:07.56 | Gnea | yang: xterm does not take 1.5meg each. how are you reading this info? |
| 19:07.57 | Justin | looksaus: read the README that comes with the debian 2.6 kernel package |
| 19:07.59 | X-Ray5 | *so b/c |
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| 19:08.09 | looksaus | Justin, thx for the hint |
| 19:08.16 | Justin | yang: you aren't running a window manager? |
| 19:08.23 | yang | Gnea: gtop/top shows the info |
| 19:08.24 | Gnea | yang: 200k, perhaps |
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| 19:08.30 | yang | Justin: Icewm |
| 19:08.31 | comet_11 | okay, say I have a 1.44mb floppy image, is there any way to turn that into a 2.88mb image and copy a file into it? |
| 19:08.42 | g0atman | NO |
| 19:08.46 | libv | g4lt: erm, i didn't buy this card for a start, and i never used it (although i should, just so i can tinker with alsa code) |
| 19:08.51 | sussudio | lamp: http://www.tweakers.be/pricewatch/ 15 euro for a SB 4.1 digital |
| 19:08.52 | g4lt | comet_11 no |
| 19:08.54 | gilgamesh | justin: emu10k1 is loaded, not snd-emu10k1 must I unload emu10k1 first and if so then how? |
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| 19:08.58 | Gnea | yang: ah but are you reading RES, SHR or %MEM? |
| 19:08.59 | comet_11 | wow, that sucks :/ |
| 19:09.03 | libv | g4lt: but it _was_ sold seperately, and i think that this one was bought seperately too |
| 19:09.05 | borius | g4lt: should i make a floppy with syslinux and try booting from that? |
| 19:09.25 | Justin | yang: you aren't running any daemons? |
| 19:09.27 | libv | g4lt: brand name boxen tend to use off the shelf components too |
| 19:09.43 | Justin | yang: you aren't running a shell in those xterms? |
| 19:09.44 | Gnea | yang: i'm just going off top btw |
| 19:09.48 | yang | Gnea: RES = 1600 SHR = 1200 |
| 19:09.50 | Gnea | gtop can suck it |
| 19:09.55 | Justin | X-Ray5: load the alsa modules |
| 19:10.02 | libv | oh, wait, has a sticker on it with a HP serial |
| 19:10.11 | g4lt | borius how much more do you want to do to rescue this abortion? |
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| 19:10.19 | X-Ray5 | in /etc/modules i have the emu whatever driver mod in there |
| 19:10.24 | borius | g4lt: ? |
| 19:10.31 | knoppix_ | ? |
| 19:10.38 | Gnea | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:10.41 | gilgamesh | justin: how do I unload emu10k1 first, if that is what I need to do? is that what I need to do? |
| 19:10.49 | Gnea | yang: that ain't 1.5 megs buddy |
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| 19:11.05 | g4lt | borius you have now done more work than you would have paving and rebuilding with debootstrap |
| 19:11.06 | nico_ | §/server irc.epiknet.org |
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| 19:11.34 | yang | Gnea: on my desktop comp. xterm uses 2.6MB |
| 19:11.34 | Justin | g4lt: why are you making him do a bunch of useless crap? |
| 19:11.46 | Gnea | yang: you are, again, not reading it right. |
| 19:11.49 | X-Ray5 | Justin: help :) |
| 19:11.53 | X-Ray5 | pleeease |
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| 19:11.56 | lamp | I am going to bye a new pc and the with ac97 or creative then it will work |
| 19:12.01 | g4lt | Justin it's better than yelling at him.... |
| 19:12.04 | Justin | X-Ray5: "whatever" is not a module name |
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| 19:12.10 | Gnea | yang: top doesn't display memory usage the same way that windows displays it |
| 19:12.11 | X-Ray5 | Justin no |
| 19:12.12 | gilgamesh | erm |
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| 19:12.16 | Justin | g4lt: tell him to download the bf2.4 floppies, image them, and boot them. |
| 19:12.19 | looksaus | Justin, thx, mouse prob solved |
| 19:12.33 | Gnea | yang: so, in fact, your desktop comp's xterm is NOT using 2.6megs. you are wrong. |
| 19:12.33 | gilgamesh | justin: how do I unload emu10k1 first, if that is what I need to do? is that what I need to do? sorry for repeat but I dunno if you caught that last one.... |
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| 19:12.39 | Justin | looksaus: wow, you read the thing I told you to? good work :-) |
| 19:12.39 | looksaus | I wonder if this would be a useful hint to somewhat show more prominently... |
| 19:12.49 | X-Ray5 | Justin: emu10k1 is the module |
| 19:12.53 | X-Ray5 | for my sound card |
| 19:12.56 | looksaus | in the installer somewhere |
| 19:13.00 | Justin | X-Ray5: emu10k1 is the oss driver. |
| 19:13.01 | yang | Gnea: what does it display then if not used memory? |
| 19:13.07 | looksaus | or auto-insmod |
| 19:13.24 | X-Ray5 | Justin: any ideas? |
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| 19:13.34 | gilgamesh | Justin: i hope that doesn't mean I could have used OSS all this time...... |
| 19:13.38 | Justin | X-Ray5: remove that line and reboot |
| 19:13.42 | X-Ray5 | kk |
| 19:13.46 | Gnea | yang: it is possible, however, for the associated shell that the xterm has launched, such as /bin/bash and any program that that shell is running to accumulate some data into memory... thus it would APPEAR that the total memory for that xterm would be 2.6meg, but that wouldn't be xterm itself... |
| 19:13.48 | Justin | gilgamesh: you could have, you're the one that said you wanted to use alsa |
| 19:13.52 | gilgamesh | :/ |
| 19:13.55 | borius | g4lt: i cant really do anything unless i get the nic working on the box im installing on |
| 19:14.20 | gilgamesh | Justin: how do I get either alsa, or OSS, or some sound working quickly? which ever, doesn't matter to me anymore |
| 19:14.22 | gilgamesh | Justin |
| 19:14.26 | sussudio | eepro100.c: { PCI_VENDOR_ID_INTEL, 0x1050, PCI_ANY_ID, PCI_ANY_ID, }, |
| 19:14.31 | Justin | gilgamesh: modconf |
| 19:14.32 | sussudio | hm whoops |
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| 19:14.35 | gilgamesh | ok |
| 19:14.37 | Justin | !tell gilgamesh about audio |
| 19:14.42 | Hydrant | Has anyone sucessfullyt used konstruct on Debian Woody, or encountered problems with configure scripts not finding the bzip2 header files, and libraries with the Debian bz2 dev packages? |
| 19:14.46 | g4lt | borius my point here is you could use the proper bootfloppies and save yourself the whole issue |
| 19:14.54 | frosh68 | hello |
| 19:15.00 | yang | Gnea: Xfree use 34% of memory, xterm 8% |
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| 19:15.17 | borius | g4lt: i tried that once, they didnt have the driver either :( |
| 19:15.22 | Gnea | yang: ok think of it like this -> xterm (mem usage: 200k) \_ bash (mem usage: 150k) \_ vim (mem usage: 1meg) total shared memory usage for xterm: 1.35meg |
| 19:15.23 | devolve | ok, i am on my second kernel recompile... first one was successful, enabling alsa |
| 19:15.25 | borius | g4lt: course, that was last year |
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| 19:15.30 | Justin | yang: how much ram and swap did you say this computer had? |
| 19:15.32 | g4lt | borius which bootfloppies did you use? |
| 19:15.46 | yang | Gnea: when i run apt-get everything would stop like freeze for the time running...becouse it takes so much ram |
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| 19:15.53 | Justin | g4lt: will you beat it into him that they dont have the driver BECAUSE IT IS BUILT INTO THE KERNEL |
| 19:15.55 | yang | Justin: 24+48S |
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| 19:16.03 | Gnea | yang: how much ram do you have? |
| 19:16.05 | Justin | yang: you should have made more swap... |
| 19:16.08 | comet_11 | haha! |
| 19:16.15 | Justin | my p100 has 56M of ram and like 150 swap, runs fine... |
| 19:16.17 | devolve | ok now I enabled acpi (different macjhine), using a make menuconfig then a make... well, I am still making, and i realize that there is a bunch of crap here i don't need |
| 19:16.20 | comet_11 | "2880kb, 2,863kb free" |
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| 19:16.34 | comet_11 | goddamn, I can't believe that worked... or, maybe worked |
| 19:16.38 | X-Ray5 | Justin: yes! thanks so much man |
| 19:16.41 | Justin | devolve: why are you compiling the kernel? |
| 19:16.44 | devolve | i put kernel source in /usr/local/src/kernel-source-2.6.5, |
| 19:16.56 | devolve | I needed to put acpi in the kernel |
| 19:16.58 | devolve | not mod |
| 19:17.02 | Gnea | yang: plus it's a massively older machine, you should upgrade that shit - a 100mhz is not a good choice for running X and lots of apps... even win95 has its limits on there, as i'm sure you've discovered. |
| 19:17.03 | borius | g4lt: i cant really remember, there were 3 of them though |
| 19:17.04 | devolve | for my sony laptop |
| 19:17.06 | libv | yang: yes, the trouble is that apt is not made to handle low memory requirements, it tends to load the whole package list |
| 19:17.09 | Justin | devolve: why? |
| 19:17.23 | yang | Gnea: I get more like xterm 2.6MB bash 1.5MB ssh 1.6Mb |
| 19:17.24 | gilgamesh | Justin: syas the device is busy and cannot remove it, in modconf |
| 19:17.40 | Justin | gilgamesh: something is using it then |
| 19:17.46 | devolve | justin, didnt work as module, and last time i compiled kernel it was quicka nd easy |
| 19:17.54 | gilgamesh | yes, how can I check what process |
| 19:18.01 | g4lt | borius uhm, that was the idepci set, which you just proved yet again don't work. there's a clinical term for someone who does the same thing twice, expecting different results each time: INSANE |
| 19:18.11 | Gnea | yang: something's not right with that - you're still not reading it right... there's no way each instance is taking up that much memory.. there's simply NO WAY! plus you still haven't answered my question |
| 19:18.12 | libv | yang: this will invoke swapping, which, on older hardware, with lower datarate disks, a bit of a wait |
| 19:18.22 | devolve | anyways, this laptop is taking forever... and it is putting way too much stuff in there.... |
| 19:18.34 | gilgamesh | iam still the user gilga Justin so I will communicate to you if i need to through him |
| 19:18.44 | devolve | I just did a make... it's not installed yet is it? |
| 19:18.51 | Justin | gilga: huh? |
| 19:18.54 | yang | Gnea: I cant remember now very well, but years ago with win95 things were much more optimized...I remember I was able to run 10 terminal emulators + 10 programs (browsers, IRC, mail) |
| 19:19.00 | Justin | ah, i see:) |
| 19:19.05 | devolve | that's after i make install... |
| 19:19.05 | gilga | I am gilgamesh |
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| 19:19.12 | Justin | yang: yes, and win95 was not using only 48M of swap |
| 19:19.12 | gilga | and I can tlak through this user |
| 19:19.14 | phorce1 | I work at an ISP. CUrrently the mail server here is a Win based system. I've been trying to get the owner to investigate letting me shift to a debian linux mail server.... |
| 19:19.37 | Gnea | yang: you must have a fucked setup then, for which you have provided no information regarding yet. |
| 19:19.38 | devolve | phorce1, free spam filtering might be motivation. |
| 19:19.53 | borius | g4lt: god damn |
| 19:20.00 | yang | Gnea: I can paste you top info in #flood |
| 19:20.00 | borius | g4lt: that Justin fella had a point |
| 19:20.05 | borius | g4lt: just did dmesg on the box |
| 19:20.15 | borius | g4lt: turns out ne2k-pci was running |
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| 19:20.16 | devolve | Justin, so can I bail out and not continue after I am done with the make? |
| 19:20.17 | gilga | yay alsa should work now |
| 19:20.19 | gilga | i think |
| 19:20.20 | eruin | apt, rtf |
| 19:20.24 | apt | [rtf] Rich-Text Format, viewable and editable with 'ted' |
| 19:20.25 | phorce1 | The last straw was my discovery that the current server is case insensitive for passwords. -- where would you all suggest I look for info on setting up a production mail server with a browser based system for entering/deleting users (other employees) |
| 19:20.31 | borius | g4lt: but the network was unreachable so i didnt see it |
| 19:20.31 | Gnea | yang: what would be better is if you simply told me the machine stats here: ram, swap, hard drive.. all that info |
| 19:20.42 | Gnea | yang: what version of debian, which kernel you're running... |
| 19:20.43 | borius | g4lt: but yeah, thanks for all your help dude... you rock |
| 19:20.52 | borius | g4lt: and i just wasted 5 hours of my life heh |
| 19:20.59 | Gnea | yang: but go ahead and paste |
| 19:21.09 | Justin | devolve: what are you trying to accomplish again? |
| 19:21.30 | X-Ray5 | WHY THE FUCK!!!! does apt or somthing keep adding "r" to my apache config!? |
| 19:21.33 | phorce1 | my home server is Exim 3.x but I'm thinking Postfix for production use (10,000+ email users) |
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| 19:22.18 | MrKeuner | I am planning a wiki in turkish like http://wiki.debian.net. Which wiki engine should I use? |
| 19:22.31 | Justin | yang: you ran sshd on windows 95? |
| 19:22.38 | Gnea | <yang> 7250 yang 0 0 1852 1816 1644 S 0.0 8.3 0:00.13 sshd |
| 19:22.42 | Gnea | as i thought |
| 19:22.47 | Gnea | sshd is not using 1.6megs. |
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| 19:22.59 | gilgamesh | :/ |
| 19:23.14 | yang | Justin: ssh terminal emulator yes, like securecrt |
| 19:23.21 | Justin | what happened to "all i'm running is dillo and a few xterms" |
| 19:23.28 | devolve | Justin: I am trying to bail out of my kernel compile now, i am in the middle of a make in /usr/local/src/kernel-source-2.6.5/ |
| 19:23.31 | Justin | yang: no, sshd is not a ssh terminal emulator |
| 19:23.33 | gilgamesh | justin: still no luck. I want to try this via OSS, is that alright? how would I go about this? ill have to put back the oss kernel module though |
| 19:23.37 | Justin | devolve: so hit control-c |
| 19:23.44 | Justin | gilgamesh: so put it back in |
| 19:23.45 | g4lt | phorce1 try postfix-mysql and -tls |
| 19:23.54 | gilgamesh | Justin: yeah, then what? |
| 19:23.55 | devolve | justin, i was trying to install acpi in my kernel |
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| 19:24.11 | Justin | devolve: why can't you use it as a module? |
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| 19:24.20 | Justin | !tell gilgamesh about audio |
| 19:24.22 | yang | Justin: i dont think there is sshd for windows95, you have to run some windows-unix enviroment to get that |
| 19:24.30 | Smerdyakov | How come Debian packages aren't included in KDE menus anymore in testing? |
| 19:24.40 | Justin | yang: yet you are running sshd in debian. |
| 19:24.40 | Gnea | yang: ok, your ram is about exhausted, but your swap is still half-free - you have not run out of memory. if you look closely, you will see that Xfree86 is taking up the most memory - because everything is running UNDER it |
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| 19:24.54 | tam | how is it you get ls to show an absolute pathname in a directory? |
| 19:24.56 | devolve | justin, (everyone prefixes with that, you must be the man) - I am going to try that again, module, I think there is too much stuff going on here in this make-- |
| 19:25.03 | digitalvengeance | Yang, OpenSSHD runs great on win platforms |
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| 19:25.17 | Xybernaut | re |
| 19:25.18 | felipe | Hi guys! |
| 19:25.20 | digitalvengeance | I use it on a windows 2000 server so I can remotely administrate it from my debian box |
| 19:25.44 | Justin | yang: you claimed before you were running just dillo and a few xterms, yet what you pasted shows you are running sshd and wdm |
| 19:25.45 | phorce1 | g4lt: Is there something like webmin available so I can set up an internal browser Postfix manager for other employees? (Personally, I prefer ssh + adduser) |
| 19:25.48 | felipe | Should I get any package other then ALSA to make my sound work under kernel 2.6? |
| 19:26.05 | yang | Gnea: I will load a few apps now, and show you how memory runs out (I was totally unable to run mozilla, took 2minutes just to get the screen) |
| 19:26.05 | devolve | justin- so if i hit control-c, I can just delete this directory and it will be like nothing ever happened because i did not do a make install? I even copied the kernel source here from /usr/src/ |
| 19:26.06 | Gnea | yang: X is only using about 8 megs total |
| 19:26.13 | Justin | felipe: alsa COMES with 2.6 |
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| 19:26.21 | Gnea | yang: and that includes ALL of the apps that are run IN X |
| 19:26.34 | Justin | devolve: yup |
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| 19:26.39 | _r00t- | hello |
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| 19:26.50 | felipe | Justin: on debian installer as well?? |
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| 19:26.59 | felipe | Justin: the beta 4? |
| 19:27.08 | Gnea | yang: it's a SLOW machine!! mozilla requires more memory than THAT!! read the fucking WEBPAGE: http://mozilla.org for SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS! |
| 19:27.13 | g4lt | phorce1 hence, why I suggested mysql... |
| 19:27.17 | Justin | flevour: most likely |
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| 19:27.44 | phorce1 | And, all, is "testing" stable enough for a production mail server? Woody is getting a bit stale in the "currenbt versions" department. |
| 19:27.51 | felipe | Justin: I dun think so since alsaconf is a command not found |
| 19:27.55 | RichiH | yang: use dillo |
| 19:28.03 | Gnea | yang: yes, use dillo |
| 19:28.05 | digitalvengeance | Question (Debian Sarge, KDE 3.2): Any way to make KDE not start on boot? I can change the runlevel to 1 and that'll do it, but not sure if it has other ill effects. I still want to be able to kick into KDE with startx or whatever |
| 19:28.08 | Justin | felipe: you want the alsa-base package |
| 19:28.08 | devolve | Justin- Thanks. All this Compiling can be kinda Scary. Now how do I get those modules in there... i found em, in lib/something/acpi, but when i did an ismod ac.ko, for example, it gave me errors |
| 19:28.18 | golgotha | is there a way to install a kernel to a different location? ie make DESTDIR=/blah/ install ? |
| 19:28.25 | felipe | digitalvengeance: uninstal kdm |
| 19:28.33 | digitalvengeance | apt-get remove kdm? |
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| 19:28.40 | phorce1 | g4lt: Thanks -- you've given me some "google material". I'll probably colocate one of my sparc machines and set up a few of my own domains as a test bed. |
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| 19:28.43 | felipe | digitalvengeance: I would do this... |
| 19:28.49 | ruff | any recommendations on video cards for debian |
| 19:28.56 | digitalvengeance | (actually, I use GDM for the login manager..but same principal should work) |
| 19:28.57 | Gnea | ruff: geforce 4 |
| 19:29.06 | felipe | digitalvengeance: yep :) |
| 19:29.08 | Justin | g4lt: firefox runs ok on my ss20 :-) |
| 19:29.29 | Spike-Sp | GeForce* |
| 19:29.32 | ruff | Gnea: thanks.. good x support? |
| 19:29.36 | digitalvengeance | Thanks felipe. I'll give it a shot. Worst case, I'll boot into single-user mode and reinstall if I have to. |
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| 19:30.06 | felipe | digitalvengeance: yep...it will work...but anyway u can reinstall it |
| 19:30.09 | Gnea | ruff: terrific. install the vendor-supplied semi-open source driver and you'll be flying. |
| 19:30.12 | yang | Gnea: sometimes xterm shows 400k, sometimes 1500 |
| 19:30.13 | devolve | golgotha:yes there is. I just saw directions somewhere |
| 19:30.26 | Justin | yang: you need more swap. |
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| 19:30.37 | Gnea | yang: don't run mozilla. |
| 19:30.37 | ruff | Gnea: thanks :) |
| 19:30.40 | digitalvengeance | Yeah..for NVIDIA cards, you NEED their driver. The nv driver is about 1/10th as fast (though nv is free (speech, beer)) |
| 19:30.42 | Justin | and more ram, 24M is a joke |
| 19:30.49 | gilgamesh | using OSS, i added myself to the sound group and I still have so sound, why? |
| 19:30.49 | Gnea | yeah no shit |
| 19:30.51 | Justin | it would run fine if you had ~100M or so |
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| 19:30.55 | g4lt | Justin the only issue would be the framebuffer, but I figure you can deal with that |
| 19:31.09 | Justin | my laptop is 120, and has 70M of ram, runs mozilla fine |
| 19:31.12 | ruff | digitalvengeance: you also have a geforce 4 |
| 19:31.13 | gilgamesh | and lsmod says emu10k1 is unused... |
| 19:31.16 | felipe | Need some help w/ ALSA and kernel 2.6 here!! |
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| 19:31.22 | Justin | g4lt: it doesn't have a monitor hooked up |
| 19:31.23 | johnnyST | gilgamesh: I think you need to login again. |
| 19:31.25 | digitalvengeance | ruff, nope..geforce 2 mx.. |
| 19:31.40 | gilgamesh | johnny: already reloggedin, do I need to reboot? |
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| 19:31.49 | Justin | g4lt: actually has 3 framebuffers, and I have a 13w3 adapter, but I don't have a sparc kb |
| 19:32.06 | Gnea | Justin: u need a type 5? |
| 19:32.07 | yang | Justin: I read that suggested value of swap is 2x the memory...or your HDD slows down much |
| 19:32.10 | felipe | ALSA package is enough or should I get any other since my sound card is not been listed by alsa |
| 19:32.16 | johnnyST | gilgamesh: logout and login so that X knows that you belong to the sound group. |
| 19:32.27 | Justin | Gnea: I can probably aquire em from my school, haven't gotten around to asking |
| 19:32.33 | gilgamesh | I already logged out and logged in johnnyST |
| 19:32.41 | johnnyST | ah ok :) |
| 19:32.49 | Gnea | Justin: i can acquire them locally - i can find out pricing tomorrow if you'd like |
| 19:32.51 | phorce1 | g4lt: I have issues with framebuffer on the Ultra1 I have set up. things like 'less' don't scroll correctly when trying to scroll back up the page. I'm learning to use 'more' and read better the first time through <grin> |
| 19:32.52 | devolve | Ok, to install my aspi drivers, this one page says i have to go to kernel-config-generalsetup>acpi-support then recompile? but when i was in there, the modules all had M's next to them, like the kernel was ready for em already |
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| 19:32.53 | Justin | yang: yes, but with 24M you are screwed either way |
| 19:32.57 | digitalvengeance | when I first installed debian, I had to CHMOD /dev/dsp (or similar, memory might be failing me) in order for non-root users to get sound |
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| 19:33.17 | devolve | Justin- Do I just put the modules in /etc/modules? |
| 19:33.19 | Justin | Gnea: i mean, acquire them for free:) |
| 19:33.19 | johnnyST | gilgamesh: do you have premission problems? |
| 19:33.20 | mrwoody | does anyone here use xmove? I have been trying it but I always get an error like: Unable to create connection to server at localhost. |
| 19:33.20 | Uniball | guys, you rock |
| 19:33.25 | g4lt | phorce1 no excuse for a U1: that has a UPA |
| 19:33.27 | gilgamesh | anyone ever set up a sblive in OSS? |
| 19:33.27 | Justin | devolve: yeah |
| 19:33.27 | Gnea | Justin: if my stepmother wasn't moving out of albany soon i'd make it easier to get shipped over heh |
| 19:33.30 | yang | Gnea: when I type dpkg -l my memory goes up to maximum |
| 19:33.36 | somiaj | digitalvengeance: why did you do that, all you have to do is add you user to the 'audio' group |
| 19:33.43 | libv | yang: 2x is just a sane ratio, has nothing to do with the HD slowing down |
| 19:33.46 | Gnea | Justin: oic... lol |
| 19:33.47 | streuner | gilgamesh: modprobe emu10k1 |
| 19:33.48 | gilgamesh | JohnnyST: don't think so |
| 19:33.48 | johnnyST | gilgamesh: I have done that. |
| 19:33.52 | Justin | Gnea: I'm probably moving out of albany soon:) |
| 19:34.01 | g4lt | Justin the're like $10 on ebay, get a sun5 |
| 19:34.04 | Justin | my sparc doesnt even have swap heh |
| 19:34.04 | gilgamesh | i just modprobbed it |
| 19:34.05 | libv | yang: if you make that rate too high, then a massive leak will take ages to get killed |
| 19:34.07 | digitalvengeance | somiaj, just easier to chmod once rather than one more step each time I add a user |
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| 19:34.13 | Justin | g4lt: $10+shipping... |
| 19:34.15 | Gnea | Justin: i'm finally getting a break from rochester and nys in a couple weeks |
| 19:34.15 | phorce1 | g4lt: It was a quick test install -- I probably have something installed wrong. |
| 19:34.19 | aztecinc | can some one point me towards a site for video drivers for an ATI 32mb radeon card please |
| 19:34.30 | Gnea | yang: well duh |
| 19:34.41 | Gentoo83 | kikooo tt lmonde :) |
| 19:34.44 | johnnyST | gilgamesh: There is a utility emu-tools that one can configure the sb-live cards with. |
| 19:34.45 | Justin | aztecinc: there are only like 20 cards that match that description.... |
| 19:34.46 | g4lt | phorce1 no, I'd bet you have a crappy card, get a cheap creator |
| 19:34.51 | somiaj | digitalvengeance: its still bad pratice, that is why it defaults that you have to add the users to the audio group. |
| 19:34.53 | gilgamesh | relogging in out |
| 19:34.59 | Justin | g4lt: now a creater, where the hell do you get those? |
| 19:35.07 | aztecinc | ATI apparently did not release drivers for it |
| 19:35.21 | phorce1 | g4lt: I have 3 of them sitting here. I just got a serverswitch 5000 KVM. Waiting on cables now. Would be nice to find the remote unit for it too -- or schematics. |
| 19:35.21 | Justin | i want one of those for my u2, but the only ones I find online are either sketchy, or they want $500 for it |
| 19:35.39 | digitalvengeance | somiah, you're probably right. I've been a windows admin (programmer, really) for many years, but still fairly new to Linux..been using it as my primary home OS for 6 months or so..will review that decision |
| 19:35.41 | borius | its ok to use md5 passwords, right? am installign debian |
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| 19:35.48 | phorce1 | g4lt: The test install is on a Creator3d card. |
| 19:35.52 | yang | Justin: well as i said win95 on 24mb ran lots of apps |
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| 19:36.07 | mrwoody | dondelelcaro: are you around? |
| 19:36.09 | Gnea | borius: yeah, md5 is good. make sure to shadow too. |
| 19:36.10 | g4lt | Justin ebay again won't work on a SS20, needs a UPA. best you can do is VSIMM your onboard |
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| 19:36.27 | borius | Gnea: so it wont break anything? |
| 19:36.34 | Justin | yang: win95 was not using 48M of swap, win95 was not running sshd, win95 was not running wdm |
| 19:36.40 | Justin | g4lt: i have a dual u2 |
| 19:36.41 | gilgamesh | still nothing |
| 19:36.42 | g4lt | phorce1 then you prolly have something messed, but I doubt it's vital unless you really like console |
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| 19:36.44 | Gnea | borius: don't see how anything would break cuz of it... |
| 19:36.48 | borius | Gnea: k |
| 19:37.05 | g4lt | Justin then a creator from ebay is prolly a good place to look |
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| 19:37.37 | gilgamesh | Justin: I am quite a noob. I might be messing something , well, really stupid up... Could you SSH in for a look to see if you can see what I am doing wrong? |
| 19:37.41 | phorce1 | g4lt: I live in console <grin>. Will have X installed on only 1 machine as a testbed. I can live without scrollback though if I don't get it fixed. |
| 19:37.49 | Justin | gilgamesh: absolutely not |
| 19:37.55 | gilgamesh | o i c |
| 19:38.10 | yang | Justin: so debian is running well only on machine with sufficent ram |
| 19:38.13 | gilgamesh | no problem, may I ask why not? |
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| 19:38.24 | gilgamesh | just curious |
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| 19:38.44 | Justin | yang: i'm sure debian would run fine if you made more swap, and stopped running sshd, wdm, and ran a even lighter wm than icewm |
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| 19:39.07 | phorce1 | g4lt: scrollback dumps everything on the first line of the screen and doesn't refresh the rest for some reason. I'll fiddle with it when I get my video cables so I can quit hot-swapping the monitor between boxes. |
| 19:39.09 | devolve | justin-so do i put the full path to the module in /etc/modules, or just the name? will it find it for me? |
| 19:39.16 | yang | Justin: icewm uses 1MB only |
| 19:39.20 | Justin | devolve: run modconf if you dont know |
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| 19:39.30 | gilgamesh | All the mixers say that they could not open the mixer, or something similar. What might the problem be? |
| 19:39.32 | Justin | yang: there are 3 icewm programs running |
| 19:39.32 | g4lt | phorce1 yeah, experiment wuth $TERM is what I'd do |
| 19:39.42 | digitalvengeance | gilgamesh: permissions? |
| 19:39.57 | gilgamesh | digitalvengeance: could you explain? |
| 19:39.59 | digitalvengeance | gilgamesh: mixer is a device, if I recall.. so the user running the mixer app must have permission to access it |
| 19:40.00 | somiaj | gilgamesh: you don't have the correct module loaded for your sound card and/or your not in the audio group. |
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| 19:40.07 | yang | Justin: icewm tray 300k, icewmbg 300k |
| 19:40.13 | phorce1 | yang: DEBIAN runs fine on a low RAM box -- Xwindows on the other hand needs RAM and SWAP. |
| 19:40.22 | gilgamesh | brb |
| 19:40.28 | digitalvengeance | gilgamesh: the prevailing opinion appears to be that adding a user to the audio group is the proper fix |
| 19:40.30 | devolve | Justin- modconf: command not found |
| 19:40.51 | gilga | Justini am already added to that group |
| 19:41.14 | yang | phorce1: takes 5-10seconds for the windows to render properly |
| 19:41.36 | Justin | yang: what X driver are you using? |
| 19:41.53 | yang | Justin: vesa |
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| 19:42.14 | Justin | yang: why! |
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| 19:42.20 | Justin | vesa=slow slow slow slow |
| 19:42.36 | arturaz | :] |
| 19:42.45 | yang | Justin: well, Its a graphical card vesa, what else should I use |
| 19:42.54 | bjt | evening all |
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| 19:43.14 | Justin | yang: no it is NOT a "graphical card vesa" |
| 19:43.18 | bjt | just did apt-get upgrade and now my menu icons are corrupted, what gives |
| 19:43.21 | Justin | yang: what does lspci say it IS |
| 19:43.28 | bjt | (fvwm2/xfree 3.x) |
| 19:43.31 | tzafrir | Hi, I have a new computer with a VT8378-based onboard display controller |
| 19:43.32 | Justin | bjt: what did you upgrade? |
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| 19:43.49 | bjt | fvwm at least, hang on ill check what else |
| 19:44.03 | yang | Justin: it says cannot open /proc/bus/pci |
| 19:44.22 | tzafrir | Any idea how to get X running with current sarge (and without via's proprietary drivers)? |
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| 19:44.40 | gilgamesh | -_- |
| 19:44.43 | Justin | yang: do you have /proc mounted? |
| 19:44.48 | bjt | Justin: libgd2, libpng as well |
| 19:44.57 | Justin | tzafrir: vesa works on that card, somewhat half decently |
| 19:44.58 | gilgamesh | damnit |
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| 19:45.07 | Justin | bjt: file a bug/downgrade them then |
| 19:45.08 | gilgamesh | sound is still busted |
| 19:45.19 | yang | Justin: yes |
| 19:45.20 | gilgamesh | neither alsa nor oss want to work, i must be doing something wrong |
| 19:45.23 | FieldySnuts | !start an editor war |
| 19:45.24 | dpkg | emacs doesn't deserve to be in linux |
| 19:45.28 | Uniball | please help: i installed woody with np, now when I boot the system i get this: cdrom_pc_intr: the drive appears confused (ireason = 0x 1) |
| 19:45.31 | bjt | how do I downgrade a package in aptitude? |
| 19:45.34 | Uniball | any ideas please ?? |
| 19:45.38 | Uniball | google didn't help |
| 19:45.45 | Justin | yang: does cat /proc/pci do anything? |
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| 19:46.01 | digitalvengeance | gilga, make a note of the current permissions of /dev/dsp is, then chmod it to give yuorself access.. if it works, change the permissions back and you know that it is a permissions issue.. |
| 19:46.03 | Uniball | bf2.4 |
| 19:46.03 | Zeenix | hello guys |
| 19:46.12 | digitalvengeance | gilgamesh: if it doesn't work, then you know you're dealing with seomthing else |
| 19:46.14 | yang | Justin: no such file |
| 19:46.27 | Justin | yang: that computer isn't pci based? |
| 19:46.39 | gilgamesh | chmod +x? |
| 19:46.42 | yang | Justin: its a notebook, there are no pci cards |
| 19:46.51 | Justin | yang: thats not what I asked you |
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| 19:46.56 | digitalvengeance | for testing, 777 it..but DO NOT leave it that way ;) |
| 19:46.57 | garung | hey people |
| 19:47.04 | garung | configure: error: Could not find XpmReadFileToPixmap in -lXpm |
| 19:47.10 | garung | do you know what package i need? |
| 19:47.12 | Justin | !lart digitalvengeance |
| 19:47.20 | yang | Justin: so i guess not |
| 19:47.36 | gilgamesh | digitalvengeance: chmod +x? |
| 19:47.37 | digitalvengeance | BFG9000? Isn't that from Duke Nukem? Ah, memories |
| 19:47.51 | Justin | yang: you probably have the only laptop that sucks more than mine |
| 19:47.52 | Zeenix | do anyone know where can i get the md5s of the sid iso images at ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/debian-unofficial/sid ? |
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| 19:48.19 | Uniball | fixed, don't play with the BIOS setup ;) |
| 19:48.21 | digitalvengeance | gilgamesh: If it were me, I would just 777 it to test..but apparently, someone has issue w/ith that |
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| 19:48.39 | yang | Justin: it was around 5000$ when it was new |
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| 19:48.50 | Zeenix | digitalvengeance: i used to play DN for hours, i dont rememeber something like that. remind me plz :) |
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| 19:49.11 | corr | okay guys, i have a question: i just dist-upgraded to testing, and when i try to 'apt-get install nvidia-kernel-2.4.18-bf2.4 nvidia-glx' with http://s.bouncybouncy.net in my sources.list it tries to also install nvidia-kernel-2.4.25, i have no idea why. it also tries to install like nvidia-sources etc |
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| 19:49.35 | Justin | corr: remove that source from your sources.list. |
| 19:49.38 | gilgamesh | now it says /dev/dsp: no such device. that is new |
| 19:49.41 | corr | is there any reason why this would be happening? is there a "default" testing kernel which differs from the one i'm running? (2.4.18-bf2.4) |
| 19:49.48 | gilgamesh | i will unchmod now |
| 19:49.53 | Justin | corr: stop using bf2.4 |
| 19:50.03 | Justin | gilgamesh: actually do what dpkg told you to do |
| 19:50.09 | corr | Justin okay, which kernel would you recommend? |
| 19:50.24 | gilgamesh | Justin: i did, i think. |
| 19:50.34 | digitalvengeance | no such device? do you have a dsp0 or anything? I know that chmoding it worked for me, but someone who knows debian better than I do wll have to help ya if /dev/dsp doesn't exist at all |
| 19:50.36 | Justin | you can install nvidia-kernel-2.4.25-1-686 and be done with it |
| 19:50.37 | corr | and i have bouncybouncy there so i can install the binary drivers for nvidia - i'm kinda confused by that |
| 19:50.49 | Justin | corr: you dont need that anymore if you are using testing. |
| 19:50.54 | corr | so nvidia-kernel-2.4.25 contains a kernel image? |
| 19:51.01 | Justin | no, it depends on the kernel image |
| 19:51.14 | g4lt | !tell corr about proper kernel |
| 19:51.14 | corr | justin... so i should switch to 2.4.25? |
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| 19:51.28 | corr | ok |
| 19:51.33 | Justin | well 2.4.26 would probably be better, but there is no nvidia-kernel-2.4.26 in sarge |
| 19:51.33 | somiaj | digitalvengeance: /dev/dsp most likely doesn't exist most likely to the fact that he doesn't have the module for his sound card loaded as I told him 30 min ago. |
| 19:51.33 | corr | thanks |
| 19:51.40 | digitalvengeance | So, who told dpkg to BFG me? |
| 19:51.45 | gilgamesh | justin: i did what dpkg said |
| 19:51.53 | corr | Justin ohhh ok, so there are bins for nvidia in sarge. i didnt know! thanks |
| 19:51.53 | gilgamesh | lemme double check that I am in the group |
| 19:51.54 | digitalvengeance | ah..smart somiaj.. so, gilgamesh, this one is over my head..sorry man |
| 19:51.55 | mrwoody | does anyone here use xmove? I have been trying it but I always get an error like: Unable to create connection to server at localhost. |
| 19:51.57 | Justin | gilgamesh: no you didn't |
| 19:52.17 | gilgamesh | Justin: what didn't i do? |
| 19:52.25 | Justin | gilgamesh: what dpkg told you to do |
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| 19:52.50 | gilgamesh | he told me to modconf it and I did, then to add myself to the audioo grpup and i did |
| 19:52.52 | gilgamesh | then |
| 19:53.24 | Justin | Then add yourself to the audio group (adduser username audio) and logout and back in. |
| 19:53.24 | gilgamesh | i did install a mixer i know what driver to use and i need not look into isa pnp |
| 19:53.33 | Justin | for fucks sake you could at try a bit harder |
| 19:53.35 | gilgamesh | i already did that justin |
| 19:53.39 | Justin | you clearly didn't |
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| 19:54.13 | gilgamesh | fine, ill add myself to the group and logout and relog once again, just in case. ^_^ |
| 19:54.16 | corr | kernels are located under Base Utilities? |
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| 19:55.37 | elephantman | Hi all |
| 19:55.52 | hashar | hello, is there a way to disable the speaker under console ? I did added "set bell-style visible" in the /etc/inputrc but it s still beeping : / |
| 19:56.00 | elephantman | Is there a hd diagnostic tool to check if my hard drive has hardware problems ? |
| 19:56.00 | gilgamesh | Justin: it said I was already a member of the grop audio |
| 19:56.01 | nomeata | ~seen dabian |
| 19:56.07 | apt | dabian <~M0RTEN@62.242.24.181> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 7d 10h 12m 30s ago, saying: 'simonrvn, Ok :)'. |
| 19:56.07 | nomeata | !seen dabian |
| 19:56.10 | gilgamesh | now what? |
| 19:56.19 | dpkg | dabian <~M0RTEN@62.242.24.181> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 7d 10h 12m 27s ago, saying: 'simonrvn, Ok :)'. |
| 19:56.24 | phogg | hashar: I always just deselect the option when I compile my kernel |
| 19:56.26 | Justin | 15:56 <dpkg> To configure sound in Debian: first, use modconf to load your driver. |
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| 19:56.43 | gilgamesh | justin: did that already. |
| 19:56.59 | gilgamesh | with both alsa and oss |
| 19:57.02 | corr | ok cool |
| 19:57.02 | digitalvengeance | anyone have a better debian IRC client than KSirc? I like KSirc, but always looking for something beter |
| 19:57.11 | gilgamesh | justin: what next? |
| 19:57.11 | hashar | phogg> i got a debian kernel and not really willing to recompile one just to disable bell in console :-/ |
| 19:57.23 | hashar | digitalvengeance> I use xchat |
| 19:57.41 | corr | i am getting 2.4.25-1-686 |
| 19:57.52 | Justin | gilgamesh: you can't do both!! |
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| 19:57.57 | ninja_ | digitalvengeance: irsii |
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| 19:58.09 | digitalvengeance | ninja_: thanks, added to my "to try" list |
| 19:58.11 | gilgamesh | Justin: i have tried both individually, not at once. |
| 19:58.25 | Justin | gilgamesh: make up your mind! |
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| 19:58.39 | Justin | hmm |
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| 19:59.08 | Justin | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:59.11 | gilgamesh | Justin: sorry for my Justin: I don't care which i just want sound. Justin: neither one is working, which one are you most confident if fixable easier? |
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| 19:59.41 | corr | oss is deprecated isnt it |
| 19:59.46 | Justin | gilgamesh: well of course neither is working if you keep trying to load both |
| 19:59.57 | elephantman | Does hdparm can check if my hard drive has problems ? |
| 20:00.03 | elephantman | i mean h/w problems |
| 20:00.05 | gilgamesh | i don't try them both at once |
| 20:00.07 | gilgamesh | lol |
| 20:00.09 | aw | how do i create a boot floppy? it seems my kernel doesn't have scsi drivers and won't boot my machine |
| 20:00.28 | Justin | aw: what kernel |
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| 20:00.51 | aw | Justin: it's an openmosix patched one |
| 20:00.53 | atrus | corr: last i heard, yes |
| 20:00.59 | corr | Justin: i've a quick question, i'm almost certain this is the case, i just want to make sure and a cursory glance through packages.debian.org left me still a little confused: kernel-image-* contains the kernel modules, correct? |
| 20:01.08 | gilgamesh | justin]: what shall I try o get working oss or alsa? which shall i try? |
| 20:01.14 | Justin | corr: uh huh |
| 20:01.18 | Justin | gilgamesh: oss. |
| 20:01.26 | aw | Justin: I didn't say yes when i installed it to the floppy question, just want to run that again |
| 20:01.31 | gilgamesh | Justin: ok, i am gonna try oss |
| 20:01.37 | FieldySnuts | 2.4 kernel, oss. 2.6, alsa (it's in the kernel) |
| 20:01.50 | corr | Justin okay thanks :) i just saw a pcmcia-modules package and i got to wondering |
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| 20:02.22 | gilgamesh | alright |
| 20:02.32 | martman | hi, i just did a bare bones deb install and im trying to compile a new 2.6 kernel. i apt-geted the kernel and the headers but when i do a make menuconfig, i get a bunch of scripts/basic/fixdep.c errors |
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| 20:02.49 | gilgamesh | Justin, what is the first step? using OSS? |
| 20:02.58 | Justin | gilgamesh: 15:56 <dpkg> To configure sound in Debian: first, use modconf to load your driver. |
| 20:03.08 | markybob | martman, which kernel version? |
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| 20:03.10 | nomeata | hmm. I think the dpkg bot confuses oftc and freenode - he says the same thing for dabien in both networks. |
| 20:03.11 | digitalvengeance | God: Nietzsche is dead |
| 20:03.12 | gilgamesh | Justin: done. emu10k1 is loaded. |
| 20:03.18 | martman | markybob 2.6.5 |
| 20:03.21 | atrus | corr: some modules are split out. alsa, pcmica, lm-sensors modules |
| 20:03.33 | devolve | glgamesh, you have an audigy? |
| 20:03.34 | markybob | martman, try apt-get build-dep kernel-image-2.6.5-1-686 |
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| 20:03.45 | gilgamesh | devolve: not sb live digital 5.1 |
| 20:03.52 | gilgamesh | no* i meant |
| 20:04.09 | elephantman | Does kernel 2.6... support pcmcia ? |
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| 20:04.12 | devolve | should be easier than my audigy was then... |
| 20:04.29 | elephantman | Without the use of pcmcia-cs |
| 20:04.34 | mateusz | Hi, Any good program for makeing a movies under Linux ? |
| 20:04.38 | Justin | elephantman: something like that |
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| 20:04.58 | gilgamesh | Justin: what next after I have modconfed and added myself to the audio group? |
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| 20:05.00 | elephantman | Justin: i mean yes or no ? :) |
| 20:05.06 | FieldySnuts | mateusz: definately not. and anybody who tells you cinelerra surely hasn't used it (it's crap). I really wish there was. |
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| 20:05.28 | Justin | gilgamesh: thats it. |
| 20:05.36 | gilgamesh | what if it still doesn't work? |
| 20:05.45 | Justin | then you elaborate on "doesn't work" |
| 20:05.52 | mateusz | FieldySnuts: ;( |
| 20:05.56 | martman | markybob ok, i think that will do it. i see it grabbing more deps. i gave it a few to apt-get (like libc and gcc), but looks like i missed alot lol. why didnt apt download those as deps in the first place though? |
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| 20:06.08 | gilgamesh | one sec lemme log out once more, but ill elaborate in a sec... |
| 20:06.19 | mrwoody | how to disable MIT-MAGIC? |
| 20:06.21 | markybob | martman, because you never told it to |
| 20:06.29 | Justin | mrwoody: you don't |
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| 20:06.33 | phogg | mateusz: a good list at http://www.exploits.org/v4l/ |
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| 20:06.55 | mrwoody | Justin: why not? do you know why I can't use xmove? I thought it was a problem with MIT-MAGIC |
| 20:06.59 | martman | markybob so you need build-dep just to get all the deps everytime?1` |
| 20:07.23 | markybob | martman, build-dep is build-dependencies...which is a *lot* different than just deps to run the program |
| 20:07.23 | gilga | debian:~# cat /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 20:07.25 | gilga | #deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r2 _Woody_ - Official i386 Binary-7 (20031201)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main |
| 20:07.26 | gilga | #deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r2 _Woody_ - Official i386 Binary-6 (20031201)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main |
| 20:07.28 | gilga | #deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r2 _Woody_ - Official i386 Binary-5 (20031201)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main |
| 20:07.29 | gilga | #deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r2 _Woody_ - Official i386 Binary-2 (20031201)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main |
| 20:07.31 | gilga | #deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r2 _Woody_ - Official i386 Binary-1 (20031201)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main |
| 20:07.32 | markybob | bastard |
| 20:07.32 | gilga | #deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main |
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| 20:07.34 | gilga | deb http://download.kde.org/stable/3.1.5/Debian stable main |
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| 20:07.49 | martman | markybob hmmm, ok...thanks |
| 20:07.51 | Justin | mrwoody: it's a problem with you not using it correctly, not a problem with it |
| 20:07.57 | gilga | debian:~# cat /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 20:07.58 | gilga | #deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r2 _Woody_ - Official i386 Binary-7 (20031201)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main |
| 20:08.00 | gilga | #deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r2 _Woody_ - Official i386 Binary-6 (20031201)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main |
| 20:08.01 | gilga | #deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r2 _Woody_ - Official i386 Binary-5 (20031201)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main |
| 20:08.03 | gilga | #deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r2 _Woody_ - Official i386 Binary-2 (20031201)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main |
| 20:08.04 | gilga | #deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r2 _Woody_ - Official i386 Binary-1 (20031201)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main |
| 20:08.05 | markybob | gilga stop the bullshit |
| 20:08.06 | gilga | #deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main |
| 20:08.07 | gilga | deb http://download.kde.org/stable/3.1.5/Debian stable main |
| 20:08.09 | libv | gilga: die please |
| 20:08.15 | Zap-W | loL |
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| 20:08.20 | martman | haha... |
| 20:08.25 | Zap-W | heh |
| 20:08.25 | ninja_ | haha |
| 20:08.32 | markybob | real funny. fucking losers |
| 20:08.32 | gilgamesh | wtf? |
| 20:08.36 | mrwoody | Justin: that is what I do: xmove on 1 xter, and xmovectrl -list on another xterm.. I get this error: Unable to create connection to server at localhost:1. |
| 20:08.50 | Justin | mrwoody: thats not what you typed |
| 20:08.54 | gilgamesh | uhm. I don't know how to explain this. gilga is me, but I didn't kow that was happening |
| 20:08.56 | Zap-W | does anyone a cOOL console TEXT game |
| 20:09.03 | sleazegrinder | Zap-W: nethack |
| 20:09.16 | mrwoody | Justin: what do you mean? of course I used export DISPLAY=localhost:1 before xmovectrl ... |
| 20:09.21 | sleazegrinder | Oh, not entierly text though |
| 20:09.25 | Justin | mrwoody: 0:1 |
| 20:09.25 | gilgamesh | i came back and it was flooded. my headphones were on my keybd, but , well, sorry. weird. |
| 20:09.32 | Justin | mrwoody: er i mean, :1 |
| 20:09.36 | pingouiin | !help |
| 20:09.40 | mrwoody | Justin: what do you mean? |
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| 20:09.50 | mrwoody | Justin: I have to use export DISPLAY=:1? |
| 20:09.56 | Zap-W | sleazegrinder : can't use any SVGA drivers |
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| 20:10.06 | Zap-W | sleazegrinder throught SSH! |
| 20:10.09 | pingouiin | i was looking for the url for backport for woody.... |
| 20:10.09 | gilgamesh | really sorry about that, dunno what happened. |
| 20:10.11 | Justin | mrwoody: something like that, the xmove docs tell you how to use it, it's rather complecated |
| 20:10.23 | Zap-W | trough |
| 20:10.39 | mrwoody | Justin: I have been reading man xmove... but didn't find anything useful |
| 20:10.43 | mrwoody | Justin: do you use it? |
| 20:10.48 | wake | Zap-W: nethack or any similar games (angband, etc) work through ssh (better be a fast connection, though) |
| 20:10.51 | mrwoody | Justin: is there anything simpler than xmove? |
| 20:10.58 | Justin | mrwoody: i used it once a while ago, read the full docs that come with it |
| 20:11.00 | Justin | mrwoody: vnc |
| 20:11.08 | mrwoody | Justin: vnc is slow |
| 20:11.19 | Justin | mrwoody: tightvnc |
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| 20:11.33 | mrwoody | Justin: i don't see the full docs |
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| 20:11.46 | Justin | mrwoody: /usr/share/doc/ |
| 20:11.55 | `Butthead | does anyone here know why cups will just automatically abort any print job? |
| 20:12.08 | mrwoody | Justin: there is no full docs there... just some txt |
| 20:12.23 | cuse | Butthead: there should be an error message |
| 20:12.40 | cuse | Butthead: do you print via Samba or something? |
| 20:13.04 | alex | I would like to have a console that display my Apache log in live, how can I do this ? |
| 20:13.12 | Justin | mrwoody: read that? |
| 20:13.28 | mrwoody | Justin: yes |
| 20:13.56 | phogg | alex: tail -f |
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| 20:14.06 | cuse | alex: watch command |
| 20:14.10 | shelldos | I want to see whats in a .rpm file. How do I do this in debian? |
| 20:14.18 | elephantman | Does a HDD with problem logs errors somewhere ? |
| 20:14.31 | mrwoody | Justin: can I move stuff with tightvnc like with xmove? |
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| 20:15.38 | alex | phogg: tail display the file only once, I want to display the content so that if it gets updated my screen displaying it gets updated |
| 20:15.43 | cuse | elepantman: dont think so, mabe the problems it caused might be logged, but you can make a disk check of course |
| 20:15.44 | Justin | mrwoody: no |
| 20:16.22 | petemc | alex: tail -f |
| 20:16.50 | petemc | oh, someone said that |
| 20:16.59 | Zap-W | wake i need something with action! |
| 20:17.14 | shelldos | I want to see whats in a .rpm file. How do I do this in debian? |
| 20:17.14 | phogg | alex: man tail and lookup -f since you don't believe me |
| 20:17.16 | mrwoody | Justin: I would like to learn how to use xmove... just that noone wrote a good doc for that |
| 20:17.24 | mrwoody | Justin: at least not for debian |
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| 20:18.01 | elephantman | What should be the process when suspecting a HDD h/w failure ? |
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| 20:18.17 | phogg | mrwoody: what's to learn? xmove, set DISPLAY, launch apps, xmovectrl -move newserver ID |
| 20:18.34 | mrwoody | phogg: set DISPLAY to what? |
| 20:18.47 | phogg | mrwoody: localhost:0 most likely |
| 20:18.48 | cuse | shelldos: how about rpm package? :P |
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| 20:18.56 | knoppix | damn |
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| 20:19.03 | cuse | shelldos: apt-cache show rpm |
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| 20:19.12 | Justin | mrwoody: pretty sure the .txt explained how to use it |
| 20:19.13 | honschu | I cannot boot my computer with Lilo - he always says "L 99 99 99 99 99" and so on |
| 20:19.23 | elephantman | How can i be shure its hardware as different kernels flavor i tried, produce or accelerate HDD crash ? I mean my system work for two days....then it crash |
| 20:19.28 | mrwoody | Justin: well i am pretty sure it doesnt... could it be a problem with a firewall |
| 20:19.39 | mrwoody | phogg: you mean :1? that is the default for xmove |
| 20:20.08 | mrwoody | phogg: anyway I get this error (inside xmove) Unable to create connection to server at :0.0. |
| 20:20.10 | phogg | mrwoody: If you're running an x server, yes. |
| 20:20.12 | cuse | shelldos: but there are also archive access tools that can read rpm, see 'apt-cache search rpm' for details |
| 20:20.33 | mrwoody | phogg: when I run xmove, doesn't it choose :1 as a default? |
| 20:20.45 | mrwoody | phogg: maybe a better question would be, yes what? ;-) |
| 20:20.59 | phogg | mrwoody: I would assume it chooses the lowest number it can, which is 0 or 1 if an X server is already running for 0 |
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| 20:21.13 | mrwoody | phogg: right.. so it would be 1 in my case |
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| 20:21.31 | mrwoody | phogg: now the problem is that i get Unable to create connection to server at :0.0. Is the server dead? |
| 20:21.57 | shelldos | cuse, ok. I have a file that is Core library for Xine player. What does this mean? by core library |
| 20:22.14 | phogg | mrwoody: if you're at the machine in question and you're in X, then no. |
| 20:22.37 | cuse | shelldos: that means you grabbed the wrong package :) |
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| 20:22.51 | mrwoody | phogg: no what? |
| 20:23.03 | phogg | mrwoody: no the X server is not dead |
| 20:23.15 | griz | how do I set up a new resolution in debian unstable , I want to set it to 1280x1024 , modifing XF86config the Modes line doesn't seam to work , and if I set it via control panel the highest I can go 1024 , plz help |
| 20:23.19 | mrwoody | phogg: well it is not dead... but that is the error message |
| 20:23.38 | shelldos | cuse, hehe. What is core library though? |
| 20:23.38 | cuse | shelldos: 'kpackage' for example allows viewing of rpms |
| 20:23.50 | mrwoody | phogg: more exactly: "Unable to create connection to server at :0.0. Is the server dead? Is the server name correct?" |
| 20:23.52 | eruin | anyone got .debs of xchat-gnome? |
| 20:24.11 | phogg | mrwoody: are you trying to connect as the same user which launched X? |
| 20:24.17 | griz | how do I set up a new resolution in debian unstable , I want to set it to 1280x1024 , modifing XF86config the Modes line doesn't seam to work , and if I set it via control panel the highest I can go 1024 , plz help |
| 20:24.27 | cuse | shelldos: core package means its the main code of an application, in this case the main code of xine |
| 20:24.30 | elephantman | How to run fsck on my root HDD ? |
| 20:24.37 | mrwoody | phogg: I am using gdm , so I guess X was run by root? you mean I have to do all this by root? |
| 20:24.38 | elephantman | As i cant check mounted filesystem |
| 20:24.53 | eruin | griz, are you setting it on the correct depth-line? |
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| 20:25.15 | petemc | elephantman: touch /forcefsck ; reboot |
| 20:25.19 | nichos | hey all, my X crashes after the screensaver runs, with "caught signal 11" my screensaver is random, how can i fix this? |
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| 20:25.36 | elephantman | petemc: is this harmless ? |
| 20:25.42 | cuse | elephantman: is it a server? are you not allowed to remount it ro? |
| 20:25.47 | phogg | mrwoody: Probably it's merely a access control problem. Run xhost +localhost and see if you can connect then |
| 20:25.48 | elshaa__ | I've no debian system. Is there a way to know online if a .deb exist for a program ? |
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| 20:26.02 | elephantman | cuse: i am root & its a server |
| 20:26.16 | phogg | elshaa__: apt-cache search foo |
| 20:26.22 | digitalvengeance | elshaa - not sure..but a HTTP interface to apt-cache search would be a pretty good idea |
| 20:26.26 | Nurbs | elshaa__: yes and no. you can check apt-cache, packages.debian.org and google |
| 20:26.28 | streuner | elshaa__: /msg dpkg info pkg or packages.debian.org |
| 20:26.36 | elephantman | petemc: i just have to create a /forcefsck file...how do i set options ? |
| 20:26.46 | mrwoody | phogg: same problem both as root and running "xhost +localhost" |
| 20:27.07 | cuse | elshaa__: http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages |
| 20:27.08 | petemc | elephantman: what else do you want to do? |
| 20:27.14 | phogg | mrwoody: running xhost +localhost failed? |
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| 20:27.19 | elshaa__ | thank you everybody ! :) |
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| 20:27.22 | krystal2 | mrwoody: cp ~/Xauthority /root/ |
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| 20:27.44 | mrwoody | phogg: no, that would fail, but I don't get anything |
| 20:27.48 | eruin | pfff, alioth is slow today |
| 20:28.13 | mrwoody | krystal2: you mean as root? |
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| 20:28.22 | corr | debian is seriously kicking ass |
| 20:28.35 | streuner | *yawn* |
| 20:28.36 | krystal2 | mrwoody: yes |
| 20:28.38 | cuse | elephantman: than i dont see you problem? fastest would be to remount the disk ro and make fsck |
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| 20:28.49 | sciboy | Hi, i own a "Canoscan N640P ex" and i wish to use it iwth gimp, what scanning software will i need to use it? |
| 20:28.50 | elephantman | petemc: i want to run 'ext3.fsck -c' on all drive |
| 20:28.56 | krystal2 | mrwoody: its : cp ~/.Xauthority /root/ |
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| 20:29.20 | griz | eruin , what do you mean by the corect depth-line , I modifiend all 3 Mode lines and added the "1280x1024" |
| 20:29.22 | mrwoody | krystal2: you mean cp ~username/.Xauthority /root otherwise you copy in the same directory |
| 20:29.29 | elephantman | cuse: but for example on "/" partition : how can i umount it ? |
| 20:30.02 | phogg | mrwoody: what is your local username? |
| 20:30.15 | elephantman | This is the errors i get before HDD crash : |
| 20:30.16 | cuse | elephantman: not unmounting, remounting! |
| 20:30.19 | elephantman | May 9 22:27:48 fireball kernel: hda: timeout waiting for DMA |
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| 20:30.28 | elephantman | May 9 22:29:00 fireball kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:07 (hda), sector 38656 |
| 20:30.30 | krystal2 | mrwoody: yes |
| 20:30.37 | mrwoody | phogg: paolo |
| 20:30.49 | mrwoody | krystal2: i have tried that, but didn't get anything new |
| 20:30.56 | phogg | mrwoody: then: cp /home/paolo/.Xauthority /root/ |
| 20:30.59 | elshiftos | Hmm, my net connection is up, but pan keeps timing out trying to get a groups list |
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| 20:31.48 | mrwoody | phogg: tried that |
| 20:32.13 | elephantman | cuse: yes ok but "fsck" says it can be dangerous to run it on mounted filesystem...the fact of remounting it as root doesnt change anything |
| 20:32.31 | pingouiin | which package to apt to get some mail box on a small LAN (6~8 computers ? and is it possible ? |
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| 20:32.50 | petemc | elephantman: i already told you what to do |
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| 20:33.09 | corr | hmm. what document should i read to find out why debian keeps overwriting my changes to modules.conf? |
| 20:33.18 | elephantman | petemc: yes thanx - i understood but i try to understand |
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| 20:33.48 | cuse | elephantmount: you have to remount it as read only file system (-o ro) |
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| 20:33.53 | Weeble | I've been compiling a 2.6 kernel deb with --initrd, when I try and boot to it, I get VFS can't mount root partition (or some such) |
| 20:34.11 | cuse | elephantman: now im already calling you elephantmount :)) |
| 20:34.30 | Weeble | I'm compiling a 2.4 the way I've always done them in the mean time |
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| 20:34.35 | tritium | corr, read /etc/modules.conf itself. it says not to edit it directly! |
| 20:34.38 | elephantman | cuse: :) i think i have to throw my HDD laptop to trashcan |
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| 20:35.00 | Weeble | and I'm using ext3 and I did put in the initrd= in lilo.conf |
| 20:35.08 | xerone | what is the command to install a script in init.d? |
| 20:35.20 | sciboy | What do i need if i wish to use my scanner? |
| 20:35.40 | xerone | it automatically creates the sym links in the rc.* folders |
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| 20:35.59 | cuse | elephantman: yeah, looks terrible when i saw you kernel message, i guess you have to get a new one |
| 20:35.59 | phogg | xerone: update-rc.d |
| 20:36.07 | xerone | thanks |
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| 20:38.10 | mrwoody | krystal2: phogg: any other advice , before I give up... so far I always get the same message |
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| 20:38.29 | fzZzy | is there an mp3 player that just shows me the hierarchy of directories on disk and lets me play them instead of forcing me to import stuff or create playlists? |
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| 20:38.57 | Demosthenes | so, i've got a .o module, anyone know how to force the kernel to compile it in? its a proprietary raid driver, and instead of moduling it, i need it at boot... |
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| 20:39.23 | gosam | use initrd |
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| 20:39.44 | Demosthenes | gosam: really would prefer if i could just hack a makefile and force it to compile it in |
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| 20:41.26 | GarySaved | I have Debian installed without X, |
| 20:41.30 | karsten | sed question: how can I insert linefeeds following a character. eg: sed -e 's/}/&^M/g' . Which should replace any close brace with same, plus a linefeed, globally on a line. |
| 20:41.38 | libv | GarySaved: good for you |
| 20:41.40 | karsten | GarySaved: apt-get install x-window-system |
| 20:41.54 | stvn | fzZzy: xmms or beep (winamp look-a-likes) |
| 20:41.58 | GarySaved | What is the best Text-Only E-Mail program? |
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| 20:42.07 | Nap` | hello all |
| 20:42.10 | Demosthenes | karsten: use \n, not ^M |
| 20:42.15 | karsten | !tell GarySaved about best |
| 20:42.22 | krystal2 | mrwoody: nope sry :( |
| 20:42.26 | fzZzy | stvn: how do I get xmms to do that? it looks like it just clones the (crappy) winamp ui |
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| 20:42.31 | GarySaved | X will not recognise my monitor. |
| 20:42.40 | karsten | GarySaved: I use mutt. So do a lot of folks. pine is popular but non-free. Emacs is for the crazy GNU types. |
| 20:42.54 | karsten | GarySaved: That really shouldn't be an issue (monitor). |
| 20:42.57 | Demosthenes | ha! i use mutt with emacs as the editor! |
| 20:43.01 | karsten | GarySaved: All you need is sane modelines. |
| 20:43.01 | Nap` | what is the way to use udev ? I installed the package on my sid. Is there any file to edit in order to have my system able to reboot ? |
| 20:43.08 | corr | mutt? ew. |
| 20:43.09 | karsten | Demosthenes: You, sir, are deranged. |
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| 20:43.19 | karsten | @start an mua war |
| 20:43.19 | ravenbird | pine owns |
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| 20:43.31 | fzZzy | oh, ok, it has "play directory", not exactly what I wanted... |
| 20:43.42 | karsten | Demosthenes: Thanks. |
| 20:43.43 | GarySaved | What would I use to get the mail from my ISP? |
| 20:44.02 | libv | corr: so, troll, what alternative do we have? |
| 20:44.03 | somiaj | GarySaved: fetchmail, mutt, and most mua's will suffice. |
| 20:44.03 | stvn | fzZzy: ah, i guess I misunderstood you, what do you want then, since other stuff requires importing |
| 20:44.03 | Demosthenes | karsten: recently moved mutt from mbox to maildir too ;] |
| 20:44.05 | karsten | GarySaved: fetchmail or similar. |
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| 20:44.23 | karsten | Demosthenes: Yeah, maildir helps some. |
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| 20:44.30 | poh | is there a converter between aac and ogg vorbis in the debian archives? |
| 20:44.35 | karsten | @gravityback |
| 20:44.36 | ravenbird | Holy crap! Lions! |
| 20:44.47 | Demosthenes | karsten: i agree ;] |
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| 20:44.54 | GarySaved | I got fetchmail, but it is configured from X, as far as I see. |
| 20:44.54 | pbm | fzZzy: Have you looked at rhythmbox? |
| 20:44.54 | gravity | karsten: Howdy |
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| 20:45.01 | fzZzy | stvn: I just want to tell it where my "music" directory is, and then have it show me a tree view of everything and let me click play when something is selected |
| 20:45.20 | stvn | ah ok |
| 20:45.20 | somiaj | GarySaved: there should be a dialog configure for it, or you could just modify the .fetchmail file by hand. |
| 20:45.21 | Demosthenes | karsten: you tried out crm114 for filtering? |
| 20:45.25 | karsten | Demosthenes: No. |
| 20:45.32 | karsten | Demosthenes: Starting to hear about it though. |
| 20:45.39 | sharky | hi iam having some trouble compiling the kernel 2.6.5 in debian mode can someone help me? |
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| 20:45.47 | gravity | karsten: bob2 and joshk had pretty bad luck with crm114 |
| 20:45.48 | Demosthenes | karsten: i've read about it for a while, just haven't moved to it. bogofilter has sufficed so far |
| 20:45.48 | fzZzy | pbm: yeah, that's the one that looks like itunes? can I get it to populate it's library without importing everything into it? |
| 20:45.52 | karsten | Demosthenes: I'm lazy. I'll wait for SA to incorporate it. |
| 20:45.59 | karsten | gravity: Cool. Let 'em suffer ;-) |
| 20:46.04 | gravity | Ha! |
| 20:46.18 | stvn | fzZzy: it doesn't move to files if that's what you mean with importing |
| 20:46.20 | Demosthenes | hey gravity, can i convince you to ignore me for a while? ;] |
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| 20:46.26 | sharky | the error is make: *** [conf.vars] Error 2 |
| 20:46.29 | sharky | \: |
| 20:46.32 | gravity | Demosthenes: If you want :-) |
| 20:46.44 | sharky | in knoppix 3.4 |
| 20:46.59 | fzZzy | stvn: well, mainly, I'm going to be putting files into the directory from across the network, and I don't want to be synchronizing some "library" on the server all the time |
| 20:47.00 | corr | libv: i am not a troll. and you will regret your words when i take over the debian linux project. |
| 20:47.05 | somiaj | sharky: then join #knoppix |
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| 20:47.14 | tritium | lol |
| 20:47.17 | libv | corr: so what alternative then |
| 20:47.21 | Demosthenes | corr: the way you said that exemplified your troll-like attitude. |
| 20:47.21 | GarySaved | When I go to startx, it says: 'Fatal Error: No Screens found' |
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| 20:47.44 | somiaj | GarySaved: do you have the correct driver for your video card selected |
| 20:47.51 | stvn | fzZzy: yes, known problem, although it is quick doing it (at least 100Gb takes several minutes over 10MBit connection |
| 20:48.05 | GarySaved | Yes. It is a Savage card. |
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| 20:48.14 | karsten | GarySaved: dpgk-reconfiger xserver-xfree86 |
| 20:48.21 | somiaj | GarySaved: check out the xlog |
| 20:48.21 | corr | libv: a nice gui mail client, like sylpheed or thunderbird. |
| 20:48.21 | stvn | fzZzy: refreshing that is |
| 20:48.25 | Demosthenes | GarySaved: hey, check your /var/log directory. it should save a XFree log file there you can look for the error |
| 20:48.32 | libv | corr: /lastlog |
| 20:48.43 | stvn | fzZzy: but I put a webinterface over it (zina), made it much better accesible |
| 20:48.44 | fzZzy | stvn: ok. it seems more like a ui issue than anything else to me |
| 20:48.44 | sciboy | Hello, can anybody help me set up my CanoScan N640P ex? |
| 20:48.57 | fzZzy | stvn: cool, I'll check that out, thanks |
| 20:49.10 | corr | libv: um. |
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| 20:49.50 | corr | what does lastlog have to do with anything |
| 20:50.01 | libv | corr: < GarySaved> What is the best Text-Only E-Mail program? |
| 20:50.13 | libv | surely you know how to read |
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| 20:50.34 | tritium | libv, no, he doesn't - he didn't even read /etc/modules.conf |
| 20:50.44 | tritium | when he had a problem with it |
| 20:51.01 | corr | libv, oh i didnt see that. dude, i wasnt saying anything but my personal opinion of mutt, which is ew. i am allowed to have a frickin opinion, i wasnt abrasive about it. stop harping on me. live with the fact that i have an opinion. |
| 20:51.10 | libv | ooh, guess i'll have to exert quite a bit of patience waiting for that distribution then |
| 20:51.14 | corr | tritium: um. i did. and the problem is solved. |
| 20:51.28 | libv | corr: so you just butted in when you saw "mutt" |
| 20:51.35 | corr | no, that was a joke. but it will take time for me to take this project over. |
| 20:51.36 | libv | corr: smart. |
| 20:51.45 | tritium | corr, good for you. let's have a party |
| 20:51.49 | gravity | corr: How do you plan to do that, by chance? |
| 20:51.52 | corr | libv, so i'm not allowed to "butt in"? |
| 20:51.57 | corr | what kind of elitest are you? |
| 20:52.02 | libv | corr: oh, you sure are allowed to |
| 20:52.04 | corr | gravity: sociopathically |
| 20:52.10 | gravity | Right |
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| 20:52.15 | corr | libv: then please, leave me be. |
| 20:52.17 | libv | corr: but when you do, you better make sure that you know exactly _what_ you are butting into |
| 20:52.18 | GarySaved | I just looked at it, and it seems to not be able to find the busID for the monitor. |
| 20:52.26 | corr | it was one comment |
| 20:52.29 | libv | corr: otherwise you just look like a complete idiot |
| 20:52.41 | corr | libv, i wasnt even butting in! i just said ew. i hate mutt! |
| 20:52.42 | libv | corr: but i guess you have no problems with that |
| 20:52.44 | g4lt | corr you do realize the we'll have to kill you if you take over the project? |
| 20:52.48 | corr | i left it at that ONE comment |
| 20:52.53 | corr | and suddenly, i am wrong> |
| 20:52.56 | corr | WTF did i do |
| 20:52.59 | gravity | GarySaved: Did you leave the busID field blank when configuring X? |
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| 20:53.04 | g4lt | corr breathed? |
| 20:53.08 | GarySaved | Yes, I did. |
| 20:53.22 | gravity | GarySaved: Hmm... if you have only one video card, leaving it blank should be fine |
| 20:53.34 | GarySaved | THat is what I thought. |
| 20:53.41 | corr | libv, you will be explicitly disallowed privileges to run debian gnu/linux when i take over the project. |
| 20:53.47 | corr | you've made a grave error on this day. you will regret it. |
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| 20:53.55 | libv | corr: oh, yes, i sure will |
| 20:54.01 | libv | corr: im quivering already |
| 20:54.06 | gravity | GarySaved: Well, if you want to fill it in explicitly, you can use lspci to find the bus ID. There's instruction on how to do it somewhere in /usr/share/doc/xserver-xfree86 |
| 20:54.08 | g4lt | corr you will be explicitly disallowed to breathe the day you do |
| 20:54.09 | corr | you guys take stuff way too seriously |
| 20:54.11 | gravity | GarySaved: Probably in the FAQ |
| 20:54.13 | corr | learn to joke |
| 20:54.26 | corr | g4lt: and what did i do to you? |
| 20:54.33 | g4lt | corr breathed |
| 20:54.43 | libv | corr: holy wars are no joke, i, and i know that i am not alone, have seen them far too much |
| 20:54.49 | pbm | apt-get install sense-of-humour |
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| 20:55.23 | tritium | dpkg --purge corr |
| 20:55.24 | dpkg | tritium: wish i knew |
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| 20:55.32 | gravity | Chill out, geez |
| 20:55.37 | gravity | He's just goofing around |
| 20:55.44 | g4lt | gravity I AM chilled |
| 20:55.45 | corr | libv, what i did was nothing close to starting a holy war. i just commented on mutt, cause i just got done wrestling with it and it was fresh in my mind. it was one, small, harmless comment. i didnt butt in. i didnt tell whoever suggested it they were wrong, i didnt do anything unacceptable or even worthy of criticism |
| 20:55.48 | corr | god |
| 20:55.54 | g4lt | yes? |
| 20:56.00 | gravity | heh |
| 20:56.13 | libv | you just had to start one, even after someone mentioned "best" and you even got the requirements wrong |
| 20:56.25 | corr | the only thing that will make you f*ckers happy is if i go away, and guess what, with that pretense |
| 20:56.31 | corr | i will f*cking troll every single one of you |
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| 20:56.36 | libv | corr: so, that distribution of yours, are you going to make requirements for people too? |
| 20:56.37 | gravity | Ok Stop it. |
| 20:56.39 | g4lt | talk about thin-skinned |
| 20:56.40 | gravity | libv: Stopi t |
| 20:56.44 | gravity | corr: Stop it |
| 20:56.44 | hms | hello, dummy need help here. |
| 20:56.46 | gravity | Both of you |
| 20:56.47 | corr | libv, that shows that i wasnt paying attention to why mutt was mentioned |
| 20:56.55 | gravity | Or else you'll get kicked |
| 20:56.58 | flock | hey guys, im having hard trouble launching applications as diff uid/gid from bash. I want to run a script wich will drop privs and fire the programs. THey are closed source and cant drop privs by themselves, any ideas? Or do i have to use a small perl script for that? |
| 20:57.04 | corr | libv, i WASNT paying attention. who says i have to pay attention to everything. |
| 20:57.09 | corr | gravity, dropped. |
| 20:57.16 | corr | im done with this egotistical monkey |
| 20:57.21 | stvn | hms: you have to be a bit more verbose |
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| 20:57.26 | gravity | corr: Thank you |
| 20:57.40 | hms | ok |
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| 20:57.42 | corr | gravity: :) |
| 20:57.43 | hms | (writing) |
| 20:58.11 | hms | i'd like to make a netinstall of debian |
| 20:58.22 | sharky | hi can someone help me with some knoppix prob. ? |
| 20:58.29 | sussudio | !britsnack |
| 20:58.33 | libv | heh. |
| 20:58.38 | hms | but i'm real novice |
| 20:58.39 | g4lt | sharky plenty of people, in #knoppix |
| 20:58.43 | sharky | its debian too :-D |
| 20:58.50 | g4lt | !essentially debian |
| 20:58.50 | sussudio | !be knoppix barbie |
| 20:58.51 | dpkg | essentially debian is, like, yeah, xandros, libra, knoppix are all essentially debian, but do you go to a Mistubishi dealership to get help on a Plymouth Champ, or a Volkswagen dealership to get help with a Porsche 914/4? Don't expect help from #debian with your "essentially debian" crap-distribution: either get help from your distributor or switch to full-on Debian. |
| 20:58.51 | dpkg | Knoppix runs on Debian so you have to give me support!!!!!!!!! Understanding the difference between a dist and a derivative is HARD! |
| 20:58.56 | gravity | sharky: /topic |
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| 20:59.09 | g4lt | sussudio beat you ;P~~~~ |
| 20:59.12 | anlmat | Hello. |
| 20:59.17 | sussudio | !beat g4lt |
| 20:59.25 | g4lt | !lose sussudio |
| 20:59.26 | dpkg | sussudio: You Lose. |
| 20:59.27 | hms | and i don't know if it's possible to install with an ethernet modem |
| 20:59.30 | sussudio | !win g4lt |
| 20:59.31 | dpkg | Congratulations, g4lt! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
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| 20:59.42 | sharky | rrrrrrr |
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| 20:59.46 | plow8088 | hi all |
| 20:59.46 | sharky | fuck you |
| 20:59.51 | quad | LOL |
| 20:59.59 | stvn | hms: so you got the correct ISO, burned it, booted it and what? |
| 21:00.03 | hms | arrgh, anyone speaking french here ? |
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| 21:00.08 | sussudio | !french |
| 21:00.08 | Shadur | Well, that was eloquent. |
| 21:00.08 | dpkg | Vous pouvez obtenir de l'aide sur Debian sur le canal #debian-fr - For help in french, please join #debian-fr |
| 21:00.10 | plow8088 | it's a bit ot, but I need a pointer in the right direction |
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| 21:00.14 | anlmat | Has anyone here had any problems with building & compiling in Anjuta? |
| 21:00.19 | g4lt | sussudio sorry, I have too many stickers of chuck on my machines ;P |
| 21:00.28 | Shadur | Compiling, no. Getting anything to work, yes |
| 21:00.29 | plow8088 | anyone willing to explain me a few question about scheduling, kernel, and NUMA |
| 21:00.40 | hms | thanks, moving to debian-fr |
| 21:00.50 | Shadur | plow8088: Ask SCO - they claim they own that part of the code anyway. |
| 21:01.02 | anlmat | Shadur : I keep getting ./configure: line 1250: syntax error near unexpected token `test1,' |
| 21:01.02 | anlmat | ./configure: line 1250: `AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE(test1, 0.1)' |
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| 21:01.18 | plow8088 | Shadur: nope, it's 2.6.5 :) |
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| 21:03.02 | anlmat | !help hybris |
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| 21:03.42 | g4lt | anlmat what, you want to compile hybris for linux? |
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| 21:03.56 | MezzyMeat | how can i see how much cpu and memory that is being used? |
| 21:04.06 | g4lt | I've heard of psycho-porters, but that takes the cake! |
| 21:04.16 | g4lt | MezzyMeat top |
| 21:04.19 | quad | free -m for mem |
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| 21:04.58 | corr | i am trying to install kernel-image-2.4.25-1-686 and upon installing it is complaining that i am installing a initrd kernel, why? i saw no mention of it being a weird kernel on the packages page for it |
| 21:05.08 | plow8088 | mh |
| 21:05.13 | plow8088 | it's not a big problem |
| 21:05.15 | anlmat | g4lt : Not really. |
| 21:05.26 | plow8088 | just install initrd-tools and add a init= in lilo.conf |
| 21:05.29 | g4lt | corr install initrd-tools like dpkg-reconfigure told you FFS |
| 21:05.30 | anlmat | !redhat |
| 21:05.30 | dpkg | from memory, redhat is just a big redHACK! |
| 21:05.43 | corr | g4lt, i already fucking installed it, for fucks sake. |
| 21:05.46 | anlmat | !debian |
| 21:05.47 | dpkg | debian is probably http://www.debian.org. See http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/index.en.html#contents |
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| 21:06.06 | g4lt | corr you have no reason to get angry. YET |
| 21:06.14 | Weeble | my lilo.conf manpage says initrd=< > .. what gives ? |
| 21:06.27 | corr | g4lt, my problem is that it is saying that i need a initrd image or something... i am kind of confused, so i dont know exactly what this entails. |
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| 21:06.38 | anlmat | !mandrake |
| 21:06.38 | dpkg | mandrake is an extended version of Redhat that supports Kde. It is very nice and easy to use for new users and power users alike. It also pays many developers to work on Kde. Linux-Mandrake is found at mandrake.com. One of Enlightenment's main developers is also known as mandrake. easily and advisedly upgradeable to Debian ;), or "oh no... the duck distribution", or like a peugeot, but on your desk, or a piece of shit |
| 21:06.40 | digitalvengeance | Okay..time to go out and do something in view of the big yellow LED in the sky.. later all |
| 21:06.42 | g4lt | corr follow the directions, exactly as they say |
| 21:06.48 | anlmat | !gentoo |
| 21:06.48 | corr | ok |
| 21:06.48 | dpkg | well, gentoo is a ports-based Linux distro for x86, PowerPC, Sparc and Sparc64 systems. It rules all the inferior distributions (Sadly, not all other distributions are inferior ;). Kinda of akin to BSD according to chouimat, or something you don't want to administer more than 2 of, or a nice file browser, or see also http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2003/44/ and http://www.devcave.net/termos/funny/gentoo.htm |
| 21:06.56 | corr | i was about to, i just didnt know if that would do what i want or not |
| 21:07.07 | g4lt | anlmat what part of /msg the bots did you miss? |
| 21:07.26 | anlmat | !help g4lt |
| 21:07.28 | g4lt | corr well, usually following the directions does what you want... |
| 21:07.32 | gravity | corr: initrd's have a manpage with lots of useful info |
| 21:07.36 | anlmat | g4lt : :) |
| 21:07.38 | corr | g4lt: in the directions, it says that this kernel will expect to use an initial ram disk - that isnt exactly what i want |
| 21:07.48 | corr | thats why i posted to the channel |
| 21:08.04 | g4lt | corr it's a trivial hack, it costs nothing |
| 21:08.16 | g4lt | it just preloads modules |
| 21:08.35 | Weeble | g4lt my lilo.conf manpage says initrd=< > not init= .. what gives ? |
| 21:08.49 | corr | okay g4lt, thanks |
| 21:08.51 | Weeble | (it also failed miserably for me) |
| 21:08.56 | g4lt | Weeble man lilo.conf |
| 21:09.12 | Weeble | er |
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| 21:10.02 | Weeble | g4lt: how can you answer a question starting "my lilo.conf manpage says..." with "man lilo.conf" |
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| 21:10.40 | g4lt | Weeble simple, the manpage is right, or it's a bug. either way, it's not going to get solved by talking ot me |
| 21:10.45 | vladkao | is it a good thing to install debian via knoppix (knoppix-install from the CD) ? |
| 21:11.09 | g4lt | vladkao it's A way. YMMV as to how good it is |
| 21:11.30 | vladkao | g4lt: and ... is knoppix sid or sarge ? |
| 21:11.57 | g4lt | fuck if I know, prolly woody-with-additives |
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| 21:11.58 | Shadur | vladkao: Debian != knoppix |
| 21:12.21 | Weeble | yes, knoppix can actually detect hardware :) |
| 21:12.26 | stvn | :) |
| 21:12.27 | gravity | So can d-i |
| 21:12.36 | g4lt | Shadur but knoppix is as good as any other installation method |
| 21:13.20 | Shadur | g4lt: Not quite. |
| 21:13.22 | vladkao | Shadur: i knoppix = debian + cloop. it is not debian when run from the CD, but when you install it on hdd it *is* debian |
| 21:13.25 | PerfDave | Doesn't knoppix leave you with something which isn't the same as a standard Debian installation, which is why we have #knoppix? |
| 21:13.36 | Shadur | ~knoppix |
| 21:13.38 | apt | shadur, Knoppix != Debian, and #debian != #knoppix. /join #knoppix if you run Knoppix and have questions |
| 21:13.40 | g4lt | Shadur it beats hamm+massive upgrades.... |
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| 21:14.11 | gravity | g4lt: :-) |
| 21:14.20 | Justin | vladkao: no, it's not |
| 21:14.21 | bolete | Just curious... Can you install Knoppix, then apt-get it into a _real_ debian installation? |
| 21:14.23 | g4lt | PerfDave yeah, they break it, but a few upgrades from ftp.debian.org fix that ;) |
| 21:14.28 | PerfDave | I was going to ask actually whether there was a true Debian live CD |
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| 21:14.39 | Weeble | dare I ask why my "!=Debian" machine has a big Debian logo on bootup then ? |
| 21:14.45 | PerfDave | g4lt: Fair enough, I thought that using the Debian repositories with knoppix kind of broke things. |
| 21:14.45 | tritium | apt, that's redundant |
| 21:14.49 | apt | tritium: i don't know |
| 21:14.54 | Justin | Weeble: because of all the things that were changed, the logo wasn't one of them |
| 21:14.59 | gravity | PerfDave: Not really. Knoppix and Morphix are pretty close. I hear that kanotix is pretty close too. |
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| 21:15.21 | g4lt | PerfDave it does: after a few upgrades, it's not knoppix anymore ;) |
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| 21:16.12 | gravity | !d-i |
| 21:16.15 | dpkg | i heard d-i is at http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ or see #debian-boot |
| 21:16.33 | techorix_ | anyone here that knows what packages are responsible for a working gnome-startup? |
| 21:16.39 | techorix_ | my gnome doesnt come up at all |
| 21:16.54 | stvn | anyone tried the new progeny installer, does it result in a debian comptible system? |
| 21:16.54 | techorix_ | (and i already did apt-get install gnome) |
| 21:17.00 | somiaj | techorix_: gnome-session gnome-pannel <window manager> |
| 21:17.20 | techorix_ | thx sawmill is the actual gnome-wm ? |
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| 21:17.38 | stvn | techorix_: not for gnome2, it is metacity |
| 21:17.57 | g4lt | stvn prolly more of a fedora-compat system... |
| 21:18.01 | somiaj | techorix_: metacity or sawfish-gnome are the main ones, though there are others |
| 21:18.02 | techorix_ | ah thx |
| 21:18.08 | tzafrir | techorix_, what do you mean "doesn't come up?" What do you try to do and what happens? |
| 21:18.21 | Akyol | hey guys i got i problem installing a game on my 8.2 |
| 21:18.38 | g4lt | what the HELL is an 8.2? |
| 21:18.50 | Justin | mandrake |
| 21:18.56 | techorix_ | tzafrir: when trying to log into gnome, just the startupscreen appears and freeze kinda |
| 21:19.09 | Akyol | the installation programm requests the next cd but i can t change the cd because it is mounted |
| 21:19.16 | g4lt | Akyol what makes you think we give a shit about mandreck? |
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| 21:19.21 | Akyol | version 8.2 |
| 21:19.25 | techorix_ | tzafrir: i cant really explain it.. on my lappy it always works fine |
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| 21:19.34 | vladkao | mandBrake ;) |
| 21:19.39 | Akyol | its suse |
| 21:19.43 | gravity | Akyol: You're in the wrong place to be asking SuSE questions |
| 21:19.44 | Justin | Akyol: #suse |
| 21:19.48 | gravity | Akyol: Really the wrong place |
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| 21:20.00 | Akyol | ok thank you |
| 21:20.07 | ptitgnome | hello |
| 21:20.12 | gravity | Amazing... |
| 21:20.25 | g4lt | well, I have a softspot for suse (local boys, now that caldera sold out), but I ain't installed it since 4.something |
| 21:20.28 | somiaj | Akyol: then why ask in #debian, though don't run the cd from within the mount directory, so you can unmount and put in the next cd and remount it. |
| 21:20.28 | techorix_ | tzafrir: so if you maybe know something like this happened on unstable somewhere else before it could really help me... |
| 21:20.37 | tzafrir | techorix_, go to a console. Run xinit /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm -- :1 |
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| 21:20.45 | techorix_ | anyone thinks i should just wait tillgnome 2.6 is in unstable and upgrade ? think it helps ? |
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| 21:20.50 | vladkao | gravity: #debian is *the* biggest channel on freenode. not wonder everyone comes here to ask .. |
| 21:20.53 | tzafrir | and from the that terminal run gnome-session |
| 21:21.01 | gravity | vladkao: #gentoo is often bigger |
| 21:21.10 | g4lt | vladkao no wonder we get testy about non-debian |
| 21:21.21 | techorix_ | tzafrir: basically the same... it shows me that the ICE-manager is running or something and thats it |
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| 21:21.28 | gravity | They should go bug the shit out of the gentoo people. That would make me very very happy. |
| 21:21.32 | vladkao | gravity: stfu ;) |
| 21:21.35 | tzafrir | do you get to the terminal? |
| 21:21.42 | tzafrir | If so: no x server problem |
| 21:21.45 | g4lt | !ops |
| 21:21.45 | dpkg | ops is, like, Meet your friendly #debian operators: asuffield, bdale, bignose, bob2`, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, Hydroxide, lilo, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk |
| 21:21.53 | mentor | moo |
| 21:21.54 | Demosthenes | so gravity, you're a pretty pervasive guy. i mean, heck, you're everywhere! what made you choose debian linux? ;] |
| 21:21.56 | techorix_ | tzafrir: yes its no xserver problem, i can even use blackbox |
| 21:22.03 | g4lt | damn, out of date again? |
| 21:22.05 | LoRez | g4lt: it helps if you specify the problem. |
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| 21:22.11 | techorix_ | tzafrir: though what funny is... same seems to happen with kde |
| 21:22.12 | ElectricElf | g4lt: What LoRez said. |
| 21:22.13 | GomoX | hi |
| 21:22.17 | tzafrir | gnome-session is a bash script, right? |
| 21:22.18 | gravity | Demosthenes: Huh? |
| 21:22.22 | mentor | g4lt: I did moo. |
| 21:22.29 | g4lt | LoRez just a warning shot, thought there was another name on the list |
| 21:22.35 | Demosthenes | gravity: i'm being silly! |
| 21:22.38 | techorix_ | no clue |
| 21:22.41 | gravity | Demosthenes: Ok :-) |
| 21:22.47 | tzafrir | then run bash -x /usr/bin/gnome-session to get a trace |
| 21:22.49 | ElectricElf | g4lt: Try to refrain? Overuse considered bad. |
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| 21:22.58 | Shadur | Everyone loves gravity! He's so attractive! |
| 21:22.58 | LoRez | g4lt: please don't do warning shots. peter crying wolf and all? |
| 21:23.02 | tzafrir | Also: check that you have some free disk space left |
| 21:23.07 | GomoX | i am using trinux to recover a crashed windows machine through an SMB network, but ive found that the /dev/hdc5 node is missing and thus i cant mount that partition (which exists on /proc/partitions). How do i know what the numbers i should pass to mknod in order to create it are? |
| 21:23.09 | ElectricElf | g4lt: Thanks. |
| 21:23.19 | mentor | g4lt: You can /msg the bots. |
| 21:23.35 | kingsley | Is there a ultility that accepts filenames on stdin and presents the user with a menu of those filenames and allows him to select and view individual files? |
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| 21:23.45 | Justin | kingsley: iselect |
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| 21:23.58 | techorix_ | tzafrir: yeah thx, all my conditions are fine... gotta be some config error somehow |
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| 21:24.27 | h2k | aneyone using bootsplash-patched kernel |
| 21:24.29 | h2k | ? |
| 21:24.32 | tzafrir | gmaniac, mknod /dev/hda5 b 3 5 |
| 21:24.43 | mentor | ~tell h2k about polls |
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| 21:25.00 | GomoX | tzafrir: was that for me? |
| 21:25.10 | mentor | g4lt: Yes, damnit...I wanted the pizza emergency services...not hte police. |
| 21:25.25 | tzafrir | GomoX, yes, wrong tab completion |
| 21:25.36 | techorix_ | tzafrir: bash -x gnome-session says: cannot execute binary-file |
| 21:25.40 | GomoX | tzafrir: thanks, but its /dev/hdc5 - should i use the same numbers for that? |
| 21:25.43 | g4lt | mentor actually, speed dial can do shit like that :/ |
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| 21:26.01 | karsten | GomoX: /dev/MAKENOD should know all your devices. |
| 21:26.01 | tzafrir | gmaniac, mknod /dev/hdc5 b 3 22 |
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| 21:26.09 | karsten | GomoX: Er: /dev/MAKEDEV |
| 21:26.11 | h2k | has aneyone compiled bootsplash-patched kernel? better? |
| 21:26.18 | GomoX | karsten: not on a slackware floppy based distro :P |
| 21:26.24 | GomoX | tzafrir: great, thanks |
| 21:26.35 | karsten | GomoX: It's a shell script. Copy it from a real (eg: Debian) install ;-) |
| 21:26.46 | simonrvn | h2k: no, it's still a poll-type question. just as your question |
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| 21:27.07 | h2k | heh |
| 21:27.07 | g4lt | GomoX actually, karsten had it approximately right, mknot is on all *nixes since system*cough* |
| 21:27.09 | kingsley | Justin: Thank you. |
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| 21:27.18 | g4lt | mknod even |
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| 21:27.20 | stvn | h2k: still compiling, but I don't think it will be better as in faster, maybe nicer looking boot |
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| 21:28.03 | techorix_ | tzafrir: i get SESSION_MANAGER=local/brain:/tmp/.ICE-unix/5754 but the file isnt spawned |
| 21:28.09 | h2k | is there any .deb kernel with patched bootsplash? |
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| 21:28.13 | h2k | now? |
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| 21:29.10 | stvn | h2k: tried apt-get.org? |
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| 21:30.19 | tzafrir | techorix_, This file is a unix-domain socket |
| 21:30.31 | jharrison | I have a problem. I rebooted my system and when it was booting back up it was trying to start Lan information server which never started and it did not get past that point. So I hard rebooted only to find myself at a sh-2.05# prompt with limited commands. and if I type exit I get a kernel panic: tried to kill init! |
| 21:30.32 | corr | i feel stupid, but i dont know what else to do: i've been reading manpages and config files and such, and i dont know where to find/how to make/or whatever this initrd.img file that i need to reference in lilo.conf |
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| 21:30.37 | corr | i am way confused |
| 21:31.17 | g4lt | corr mkinitrd |
| 21:31.33 | h2k | nothing at apt-get.org ... at least i can't find |
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| 21:32.03 | techorix_ | tzafrir: um.. so its okay its not shown in /tmp ? |
| 21:32.14 | corr | g4lt, all i know, is i am stuck at this screen that wants to know if i want to stop the installation or not, and i dont know if its safe to |
| 21:32.29 | jharrison | corr: its something like mkinitrd /lib/modules/2.X.X |
| 21:32.40 | g4lt | corr it's always safe to stop an install |
| 21:33.05 | corr | g4lt, ok.. but what i am wondering if its safe to keep going, like, i prolly need to install the kernel first before i can do this initrd stuff |
| 21:33.07 | jharrison | my system is totally borked |
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| 21:33.38 | g4lt | corr it's basically already installed, dpkg-reconfigure gets called only on successful completion of dpkg |
| 21:33.40 | kingsley | Justin: Do you happen to know if iselect can pipe the selected file to a filter, like "less" for example, and then return to the menu when less exits? |
| 21:33.55 | corr | ok |
| 21:33.59 | Justin | kingsley: while loop |
| 21:34.06 | h2k | kernel-patch-bootsplash 3.1.4-1 (i386) |
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| 21:34.08 | techorix_ | tzafrir: now i get some errors from gnome-panel that some icons couldnt be loaded... well and after some waiting... i got a thorough empty X screen wow |
| 21:34.11 | g4lt | jharrison could you get any LESS specific? |
| 21:34.17 | h2k | what does that do? |
| 21:34.19 | Shadur | ~doesn't work |
| 21:34.23 | apt | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 21:34.35 | techorix_ | tzafrir: meaning the startscreen disappeard and nothing is to be seen at all |
| 21:34.49 | g4lt | h2k what od you think it does? |
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| 21:35.09 | jharrison | g4lt: I provided the information already above |
| 21:35.22 | jharrison | g4lt: I rebooted my system and when it was booting back up it was trying to start Lan information server which never started and it did not get past that point. So I hard rebooted only to find myself at a sh-2.05# prompt with limited commands. and if I type exit I get a kernel panic: tried to kill init! |
| 21:35.31 | kingsley | Justin: Can you elaborate on a.) where the while loop would operate and b.) how iselect would call less? |
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| 21:35.50 | beschwa | how can i find out the pid of a script i ran with & |
| 21:35.53 | g4lt | jharrison lan information server? expn |
| 21:36.01 | jharrison | g4lt: I have no idea what that is or why its there |
| 21:36.05 | sussudio | man, this is a really cruel gift for a kid: http://www.lidl.nl/C1256C790050C7BC/images/NL.04_0186/$file/04_0186_b.jpg It's like; "We've seen your test scores, here's your junior cleaning kit" |
| 21:36.05 | g4lt | beschwa jobs |
| 21:36.18 | beschwa | does nothing |
| 21:36.19 | g4lt | jharrison is it a daemon, or a module? |
| 21:36.21 | Justin | kingsley: iselect will just echo the names of the files you select to stdout |
| 21:36.22 | gravity | sussudio: HAHAHAHAHA |
| 21:36.28 | gravity | Take that toilet boy! |
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| 21:36.44 | Justin | kingsley: so like, while true;do less `iselect ......`;done |
| 21:36.58 | sussudio | Dude! You're going to be a janitor when you grow up. |
| 21:37.01 | Justin | kingsley: or maybe like while true;do iselect .....|while read $f;do less "$f";done;done |
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| 21:37.13 | g4lt | sussudio no emulating the dell dude now |
| 21:37.25 | gravity | sussudio: Think of it as motivation. "Well kid, you can start practicing your toilet cleaning now, or you can go study. It's up to you." |
| 21:37.42 | jharrison | g4lt: I just installed on this machine because the same thing happened the other day only under different circumstances. I left my machine and came back tried to unlock my screensaver which would not accept my password. I switched to tty1 and could not log in because too many getty's were spawned waiting 5 minutes and my system broke and when rebooted I came to the same sh-2.05b# prompt |
| 21:37.50 | jharrison | g4lt: I dont know what lan information server is |
| 21:38.10 | jharrison | g4lt: LISA |
| 21:38.18 | sussudio | gravity: "... oh yeah, and some fair warning: Grandma had the runs and the toilet *really* needs some good cleaning..." |
| 21:38.22 | g4lt | jharrison AHHHH lisa, I know |
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| 21:38.24 | jharrison | g4lt: Hey Dutch Boy Debbie!!! I trust you are well. I had the day off today. How nice. But, gotta go in tomorrow. Guess what now? My CSR, Chris Guy has been transfered. I don't know who my new csr is as yet. Holy Cow!!! Are you available to be my rep again? |
| 21:38.28 | jharrison | I asked Richard about Suede paint by DB Dimensions which he didn't know about, but no one he says in head office was able to tell him anything. Oh well! |
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| 21:38.29 | gravity | Oooooo |
| 21:38.32 | jharrison | Guess what again? My young son...Jeremy the psyhco, remember him? Well, he is doing his internship at NorthEastern Medical College, in Akron. He begins July 1. How bout dat? Do u live near there? |
| 21:38.32 | kingsley | Justin: Thanks. I'll work on it. |
| 21:38.35 | jharrison | He says it's a lovely facility. |
| 21:38.38 | jharrison | U gettin' ready for your trip to Malta yet? Did u get my e-mail letter re my trip to Honduras? |
| 21:38.39 | g4lt | jharrison you don't need it now, it's for KDE and samba |
| 21:38.41 | jharrison | Felis dia! (Have a nice day) |
| 21:38.44 | jharrison | Regards, |
| 21:38.46 | jharrison | Harri |
| 21:38.48 | jharrison | fring |
| 21:38.51 | jharrison | frig |
| 21:38.53 | jharrison | stupid windows box |
| 21:39.10 | jharrison | g4lt: sorry about pasting that email im on this windows box and copy/paste does not work the same |
| 21:39.20 | jharrison | I really want my linux box back |
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| 21:39.35 | gravity | Man, OO.o just isn't nearly as easy to work with after learning LaTeX |
| 21:39.40 | xeon2 | How do you mount an audio CD for playing under XMMS in Debian? |
| 21:39.49 | double_c | jharrison: apt-cache says that LISA is a kde component, maybe their channel can help |
| 21:39.59 | Justin | xeon2: you don't mount it |
| 21:40.00 | g4lt | jharrison update-rc.d lisa remove |
| 21:40.01 | jharrison | double_c: I dont think thi sis lisa related |
| 21:40.01 | gravity | xeon2: Go in to the /cdrom directory and hit the "add all in directory" button. It should show the tracks. |
| 21:40.07 | gravity | xeon2: Then you can add at will |
| 21:40.08 | double_c | ok |
| 21:40.17 | saloxin | xeon2: you don't mount it. you browse to the mount point and it's tehre. or use grip |
| 21:40.20 | jharrison | g4lt: then what reboot? |
| 21:40.40 | g4lt | jharrison just nuke it for now, get your box working, then we'll worry about it. yes,you'll want to reboot after |
| 21:40.52 | jharrison | g4lt: ok thanks brb |
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| 21:42.31 | xeon2 | In what? KDE? Gnome? |
| 21:43.08 | gravity | xeon2: In xmms. Use the eject button to bring up the dialog (the arrow in the middle pointing up) |
| 21:43.15 | jharrison | g4lt: I can only boot to a read-only file system. will that command still work? |
| 21:43.48 | g4lt | jharrison mount -o remount rw / |
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| 21:45.05 | sussudio | http://www.lidl.nl/C1256C790050C7BC/images/NL.04_1390/$file/04_1390_b.jpg < sure... "It's a holder for a big umbrella... not an 'enemy combatant' torture device..." |
| 21:45.26 | jharrison | g4lt: ok it worked but I still can only boot to the sh-2.05b# prompt |
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| 21:45.47 | bjt | hello all, does anyone know the key combo for changing font size in rxvt |
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| 21:46.50 | fanti | hi there. i get each time i tried (with 2.6.4 and 2.6.5) to 'make modules_install' that error: make: *** [_modinst_post] Error 1 |
| 21:47.02 | g4lt | jharrison now update-rc.d |
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| 21:47.35 | Justin | fanti: use a debian kernel |
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| 21:48.13 | sussudio | Justin: wouldn't that happen if he didn't install module-init-tools? |
| 21:48.29 | jharrison | g4lt: that just prints the usage. is that what it should do? |
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| 21:48.48 | ribnitz | heyaas |
| 21:48.48 | Justin | sussudio: probably |
| 21:48.50 | fanti | sussudio: no.. that package is just needed for loading some modules, not for 'make modules_install' |
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| 21:49.01 | Justin | fanti: says you |
| 21:49.07 | g4lt | jharrison I aleady gave you the syntax to use |
| 21:49.42 | jharrison | g4lt: oh you are refering to the command a while ago? |
| 21:49.52 | g4lt | jharrison yeah |
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| 21:50.19 | jharrison | g4lt: here is what I have done so far. mount -o remount rw /, update-rc.d -f lisa remove |
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| 21:50.28 | jharrison | g4lt: then I rebooted and im back at the same prompt again |
| 21:50.52 | jharrison | g4lt: so now you want me to do update-rc.d lisa remove again? |
| 21:50.55 | Farris1 | I can't seem to get sound working in gnome. Gnome doesn't think there's any audio device installed. |
| 21:50.57 | g4lt | jharrison what errored out this time? |
| 21:51.27 | es | how to make a list of all the package installed in debian? |
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| 21:51.39 | fanti | es: dpkg -l |
| 21:51.45 | es | thanks |
| 21:52.20 | jharrison | g4lt: nothing that I can see |
| 21:52.36 | jharrison | g4lt: it boots as normal and brings me this prompt |
| 21:52.50 | g4lt | jharrison something had to error to get you in single-user |
| 21:53.19 | jharrison | g4lt: dmesg does not repor anything |
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| 21:53.53 | g4lt | jharrison hmmm, fsck your drives |
| 21:54.27 | jharrison | g4lt: ok |
| 21:55.25 | intero | when do i have zombie processes? |
| 21:55.54 | WALoeIII | any good packages that will sync my system time? |
| 21:56.24 | jeff | you probably want ntp. :) |
| 21:56.41 | WALoeIII | does it come with a little configuration wizard? :o |
| 21:56.47 | WALoeIII | I tried to install it manually without much success |
| 21:56.48 | WALoeIII | :-P |
| 21:57.27 | jharrison | g4lt: I dont have access to that command. |
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| 21:57.52 | jharrison | g4lt: is there any way to get out of single user mode? |
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| 21:58.15 | g4lt | jharrison it's /sbin/fsck, so you should have it |
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| 21:59.07 | sussudio | jharrison: exit? |
| 21:59.08 | jharrison | g4lt: this happened the other day when I left and came back to my computer. I proceeded to unlock my system but it would not accept my password and then it complained about too many getty's spawned and sleeping for 5 minutes. I never was able to recover from that and ended up at this same prompt im at now |
| 21:59.22 | jharrison | sussudio: exit will result in kernel panic |
| 21:59.26 | saloxin | WALoeIII: apt-get install ntpdate -> enter a ntp server that is in the right timezone, and you're done |
| 21:59.47 | sussudio | jharrison: groovy |
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| 21:59.55 | jharrison | sussudio: kernel panic: attempted to kill init! to be exact |
| 21:59.59 | Tired_ | what could i have done wrong in setting up lilo, so as to make it display a screen and a half of "01" on boot? |
| 22:00.14 | g4lt | jharrison do me a favor and type in bash at the sh prompt |
| 22:00.20 | RaNdom_36 | can i create a dvd image of woody using jigdo-file? |
| 22:01.19 | g4lt | RaNdom_36 presumably, but I don't know if jigdo knows about DVDs |
| 22:01.21 | jharrison | g4lt: when I type bash at the sh prompt I am returned to a new prompt |
| 22:01.22 | saloxin | Tired_: mixing ide and scsi? boot from cd and run lilo -v |
| 22:01.29 | jharrison | g4lt: root@(none)# |
| 22:01.47 | g4lt | jharrison NOW try to fsck your drives |
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| 22:01.56 | jharrison | g4lt: ok |
| 22:02.25 | Tired_ | i have no scsi, so i doubt that. running lilo -v gives me three errors about a drive that might not be accessible, but i don't know what it means... |
| 22:02.29 | RaNdom_36 | g4lt, ok thnx |
| 22:02.39 | jharrison | g4lt: still doesnt work |
| 22:02.41 | g4lt | Tired_ blew your MBR |
| 22:02.50 | g4lt | jharrison what's the error now? |
| 22:02.50 | jharrison | g4lt: I dont appear to have an /sbin directory either |
| 22:02.52 | Tired_ | thought so |
| 22:02.56 | jharrison | command not found |
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| 22:03.20 | g4lt | jharrison use explcit pathing. /sbin/fsck /dev/hda1 |
| 22:03.29 | jharrison | g4lt: thats what I did |
| 22:03.35 | saloxin | Tired_: trying to install lilo on something else than hda? |
| 22:03.40 | Charlie | Sera q alguem pode me ajudar? |
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| 22:03.49 | g4lt | jharrison what directories DO you have? |
| 22:04.11 | Tired_ | yes, sorta. I have a vfat partition on hda1 and debian on hdd1...i'm trying to make it boot to either. |
| 22:04.15 | jharrison | g4lt: hhmm it appears I have everything except sbin |
| 22:04.17 | Charlie | fui infectado pelo spyware alguem sabe como eu desinfecto? |
| 22:04.31 | g4lt | jharrison okay, try another thing, mount -a |
| 22:04.38 | jharrison | g4lt: also I have my /home directory on another partition which it says is mounted in a mount list but there is nothing in /home |
| 22:04.42 | Tired_ | i read the docs, but i still don't get it :( |
| 22:05.00 | g4lt | jharrison sounds like something blew your /sbin |
| 22:05.19 | saloxin | Tired_: the bootloader has to lie on first booting device, aka hda I believe. boot=/dev/hda, and root=/dev/hda1 or hdd1 |
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| 22:05.36 | jharrison | g4lt: mount -a reports nothing |
| 22:05.48 | g4lt | jharrison now try fscking |
| 22:05.49 | thomas_adam | jharrison: that's good. |
| 22:05.52 | Caveman- | Just wondering what you guys think is good for a pop3d. I have tried cyrus and hated it. |
| 22:05.58 | jharrison | g4lt: ok |
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| 22:06.30 | Tired_ | that's exactly what I have in lilo.conf |
| 22:06.30 | WALoeIII | courier-pop |
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| 22:06.56 | saloxin | Tired_: paste it in #flood? |
| 22:06.58 | jharrison | g4lt: no such file or directory |
| 22:07.19 | g4lt | jharrison :( |
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| 22:07.34 | jharrison | g4lt: this exact thing ahppend the other day and I reinstalled |
| 22:07.37 | es | is it possibile to use rpm in debian in some way |
| 22:07.39 | g4lt | jharrison do you have networking? |
| 22:07.48 | jharrison | g4lt: and everything was fine I went to reboot and bam happens again |
| 22:07.50 | jharrison | g4lt: no |
| 22:08.08 | fanti | es: yes, tried alien |
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| 22:08.13 | fanti | eh, try :-) |
| 22:08.17 | jharrison | g4lt: I tried to bring it up manually too with ifup but those commands are not available |
| 22:08.21 | fanti | apt-cache show alien |
| 22:08.28 | g4lt | jharrison yeah :/ |
| 22:08.50 | jharrison | how does my /sbin directory just get deleted |
| 22:09.00 | daxxar | rm -rf /sbin |
| 22:09.36 | g4lt | jharrison we have good news, dpkg isn't in /sbin, so we can start putting packages back |
| 22:09.45 | jharrison | g4lt: great |
| 22:09.54 | jharrison | g4lt: I await your commands |
| 22:10.15 | WALoeIII | uhhh |
| 22:10.15 | WALoeIII | I just did apt-get install ntp |
| 22:10.15 | g4lt | jharrison do you have another machine ot sneakernet from? |
| 22:10.17 | WALoeIII | but there is no configuration file for it? |
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| 22:10.27 | g4lt | WALoeIII /etc/ntp.conf |
| 22:10.28 | jharrison | g4lt: sneakernet? |
| 22:10.34 | WALoeIII | neg nothing there |
| 22:10.44 | WALoeIII | and updatedb and locate ntp.conf gives me nothing |
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| 22:10.44 | es | fanti: great installed. and how dpkg compare to apt? it's that better for some use? |
| 22:10.54 | g4lt | jharrison write floppies, which you then mount on your casualty box |
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| 22:11.18 | jharrison | g4lt: yes I also have the sarge test cd that I installed with |
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| 22:11.51 | g4lt | jharrison okay, let's work with the CD first |
| 22:12.02 | g4lt | jharrison insert it, and mount it |
| 22:12.57 | jharrison | g4lt: ok |
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| 22:12.57 | Justrick | afternoon all |
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| 22:13.13 | jharrison | g4lt: ok it is mounted |
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| 22:13.36 | g4lt | jharrison okay, our first priorit is e2fsprogs |
| 22:13.46 | jharrison | g4lt: ok |
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| 22:14.42 | ricochet | I am trying to run avview (I have an ATI Radeon AIW) and it errors out with the following: can someone help? |
| 22:14.47 | ricochet | X Error of failed request: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) |
| 22:14.47 | ricochet | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:14.47 | ricochet | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:14.47 | ricochet | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:14.47 | ricochet | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:15.00 | jharrison | g4lt: just dpkg -i e2fsprogs? |
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| 22:15.05 | cbrXX | what does this message means : Currently, only 1 or 2 FATs are supported, not 246. on fskc.vfat ? |
| 22:15.19 | daxxar | what ftpd do you guys recommend? i dont need 'virtual users' nor 'virtual paths', just something that is secure (and perhaps fast too). |
| 22:15.30 | Justrick | QUick question, beta4 installed, LILO to MBR, reboots to "L 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 ...." |
| 22:15.32 | g4lt | jharrison you have to be in the directory. find <cdrom mountpoint> -name e2fsprogs |
| 22:15.32 | dondelelcaro | cbrXX: exactly what it says. fsck.vfat isn't able to fsck that filesystem. |
| 22:15.43 | dondelelcaro | ricochet: read /topic, and please don't paste into #debian |
| 22:15.47 | ricochet | pasted error from avview to flood |
| 22:15.57 | cbrXX | dondelelcaro: but why 256 FAT's ? |
| 22:16.10 | cbrXX | dondelelcaro: this is the number of blocks on partition ? |
| 22:16.21 | dondelelcaro | cbrXX: no, it's the number of file allocation tables. |
| 22:16.44 | cbrXX | dondelelcaro: there is some way to fix this ... or the partition is lost ? |
| 22:16.48 | dondelelcaro | cbrXX: if the partition is gigantic, fsck.vfat won't be able to deal appropriately with it. |
| 22:16.49 | es | I'm running woody with the default gcc-2.95 is it possible to install gcc 3.3.x in? |
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| 22:17.01 | dondelelcaro | cbrXX: just mount the silly thing, and turn of the fsck checking for it |
| 22:17.05 | cbrXX | dondelelcaro: it have 2GB |
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| 22:17.36 | jharrison | g4lt: install *.deb in this directory? |
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| 22:17.52 | cbrXX | dondelelcaro: thanks ... I will try my luck |
| 22:17.59 | g4lt | jharrison just the i386 one |
| 22:18.04 | jharrison | g4lt: ok |
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| 22:18.38 | simonrvn | richoceted right out of the channel, thanks to debhelper |
| 22:18.50 | simonrvn | ricocheted even |
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| 22:18.53 | jharrison | g4lt: it returns an error: PATH not set |
| 22:18.54 | g4lt | simonrvn lagged? :P |
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| 22:19.09 | simonrvn | g4lt: just got to this window. thanks for caring |
| 22:19.42 | g4lt | jharrison export PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin |
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| 22:19.50 | kimo | noob question: I can't umount /dev/cdrom (device busy), huh? |
| 22:20.45 | daxxar | something is using your cdrom |
| 22:20.45 | ricochet | simonrvn, was that addressed to me? |
| 22:20.45 | g4lt | jharrison addendum, put the /bin.. in quotes |
| 22:20.45 | kimo | daxxar, I've closed everything I know of |
| 22:20.45 | simonrvn | ricochet: no. i was commenting on your getting kicked for pasting too many lines |
| 22:20.48 | es | I'm running woody with the default gcc-2.95 is it possible to install gcc 3.3.x in? |
| 22:21.03 | g4lt | simonrvn I wouldn't want you to think nobody cared ;P |
| 22:21.08 | ribnitz | es: backports. |
| 22:21.13 | simonrvn | g4lt: heh |
| 22:21.23 | es | ribnitz: http://www.backports.org ? |
| 22:21.24 | ricochet | simonrvn, ah yes. very efficient. i thought it was only a 1 liner |
| 22:21.28 | g4lt | simonrvn but if you ever think nobody cares, miss a few payments |
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| 22:21.46 | corr | i have a possibly stupid and obvious question: what's the different between kernel-headers-2.4.25-1 and kernel-headers-2.4.25-1-686 |
| 22:21.47 | ribnitz | es: www.apt-get.org |
| 22:21.50 | simonrvn | g4lt: don't remind me ;) |
| 22:22.02 | ribnitz | corr: -686 |
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| 22:22.20 | g4lt | jharrison still with me? |
| 22:22.25 | _sbk_ | um, was there someone here that had the repeating "GRUB" message problem when installing grub? Would like to use their machine to test a patch :-) |
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| 22:23.10 | corr | well, it automatically installed kernel-headers-2.4.25-1 when i apt-get installed kernel-headers-2.4.25-1-686, and it installed both sets into different directories - to compile my winmodem driver i need to symlink /usr/src/linux to the headers dir, but i dont know which one to link to |
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| 22:23.16 | jharrison | g4lt: new errors |
| 22:23.31 | g4lt | jharrison I wait with bated breath :/ |
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| 22:23.38 | jharrison | g4lt: ldconfig not found on PATH, and start-stop-deamon not found on PATH |
| 22:23.54 | g4lt | oh, FUN |
| 22:24.00 | g4lt | wait one... |
| 22:24.05 | jharrison | g4lt: then it says something about /sbin /usr/sbin and /usr/local/sbin are usually in roots path |
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| 22:24.38 | g4lt | jharrison okay, let's start off small, install libc6 first |
| 22:24.58 | pole_ | anyone know what hesiod does and how i should configure it to work with cyrus? |
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| 22:25.01 | g4lt | jharrison do you need me to go step-by-step this time? |
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| 22:25.58 | Shadur | Yaaaaagh. XFS oops just nuked /var/lib/dpkg/available and -old. How can I rebuild that file without resorting to a reinstall? |
| 22:26.05 | corr | okay, i guess i'll have to just try each one |
| 22:26.16 | pole_ | deb configuration is asking me to enter a "Hesiod domain for searches" and dont know what to enter |
| 22:26.18 | g4lt | Shadur dselect update |
| 22:26.34 | kimo | plz I am in the middle of a 2 CD CAD tool installation, & I can't umount /dev/cdrom (device busy) what do I do?? |
| 22:26.48 | Shadur | g4lt: thanks. |
| 22:26.56 | jharrison | g4lt: I cant find lib6c on the cd |
| 22:27.05 | g4lt | kimo cd out of the mountpoint |
| 22:27.09 | gilgamesh | say, any idea why donkey is so slow? is it some kind of port thing? anyone seen an FAQ on this? |
| 22:27.17 | g4lt | jharrison libc6 |
| 22:27.25 | g4lt | jharrison my fault, typos |
| 22:27.26 | kimo | g4lt, ok, cd ~ |
| 22:27.41 | jharrison | g4lt: no problem. I really appreciate your help and patience |
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| 22:28.07 | kimo | g4lt, what now? |
| 22:28.17 | g4lt | kimo unount your cd |
| 22:28.19 | tomb0y | kimo: if that doesnt work then lsof +D /path/to/mounted/cdrom |
| 22:28.33 | g4lt | kimo umount, sorry |
| 22:28.33 | tomb0y | and see if anything is being used under that path |
| 22:28.46 | kimo | sh-2.05b# umount /dev/cdrom |
| 22:28.46 | kimo | umount: /mnt/cdrom: device is busy |
| 22:29.03 | g4lt | kimo you're in single-user?! |
| 22:29.18 | kimo | g4lt, yep my PC |
| 22:29.36 | Gh0sty | stt |
| 22:29.40 | kimo | g4lt, sh-2.05b# lsof +D /mnt/cdrom/ |
| 22:29.41 | kimo | COMMAND PID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME |
| 22:29.41 | kimo | bash 279 root cwd DIR 11,0 2048 475856896 /mnt/cdrom/ |
| 22:29.47 | jharrison | g4lt: same erorrs as before about ldconfig and start-stop-deamon |
| 22:29.56 | g4lt | jharrison shit |
| 22:29.58 | Gh0sty | g4lt, not so much noise, people already sleeping :) |
| 22:30.01 | jharrison | kimo: you too? |
| 22:30.13 | kimo | jharrison, u cant umount 2 ?? |
| 22:30.20 | jharrison | kimo: im in single user mode |
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| 22:30.28 | g4lt | jharrison I want to tell you to reinstall, but it looks like your installation CD is brked badly |
| 22:30.28 | jharrison | kimo: I rebooted and bam my system borked |
| 22:30.39 | michael1234 | how do you make a tunnel in linux |
| 22:30.41 | jharrison | g4lt: I can get another |
| 22:30.50 | tomb0y | kimo: you are running something under /mnt/cdrom hence why you cannot umount it. |
| 22:30.51 | jharrison | g4lt: I have 4 other computers in my house |
| 22:30.56 | kimo | jharrison, no I am in a default init 5, I just cant umount cdrom |
| 22:30.56 | g4lt | jharrison I'd suggest get the woody 2.4bootfloppies |
| 22:31.02 | jharrison | g4lt: this one just happens to be my workstation that is a sid box |
| 22:31.06 | tomb0y | kimo: id do cd /etc or something then umount /mnt/cdrom |
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| 22:31.10 | gcbirzan | Hm. |
| 22:31.24 | jharrison | g4lt: so you think this is because of the install cd I used? |
| 22:31.45 | jharrison | g4lt: I did use a sarge daily build beta 4 cd |
| 22:31.48 | g4lt | jharrison I SUSPECT it is |
| 22:31.57 | kimo | tomb0y, sorry what's that command? my cd is on /mnt/cdrom |
| 22:32.04 | jharrison | g4lt: even though I upgraded to sid? |
| 22:32.09 | kimo | tomb0y, what do I type exactly? |
| 22:32.14 | gcbirzan | I have a question about dpkg (the bot :-)). I do a listkeys knoppix and it gives me a list of factoids which contain knoppix in their name. I see ;; knoppixquestion2 ;; in that list, but asking it about knoppixquestion2 results in "no such factoid" errors. Why's that? |
| 22:32.31 | jharrison | g4lt: I am running sid on this box I just used the sarge cd for the initial install |
| 22:32.52 | g4lt | jharrison you upgraded to sid, and somehow /sbin got blown away?! |
| 22:32.58 | tomb0y | kimo: cd /etc && umount /mnt/cdrom |
| 22:33.19 | kimo | tomb0y, umount: /mnt/cdrom: device is bus |
| 22:33.33 | kimo | tomb0y, busy* |
| 22:34.08 | tomb0y | hmm well pid 279 is what you pasted is that is current using /mnt/cdrom |
| 22:34.12 | g4lt | kimo is the installation program still holding the cd? |
| 22:34.24 | jharrison | g4lt: no I was runinng sid for a while and then I walked away from my computer for a few minutes and came back. I have my screensaver set to lock my pc after 5 minutes. So I went to type in my password as usual but I got it wrong or something and so then i got this error about too many getty's spawned so I rebooted. Then I found myself at this prompt sh-2.05b#. So I reinstalled using the sarge cd I had |
| 22:34.34 | kimo | g4lt, I dont think so, it is telling me to put the CD2 in now ?? |
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| 22:34.51 | jharrison | g4lt: then I upgraded to sid and I have been running it for a few days and just got it set back up the way I want and now it has happend again |
| 22:34.53 | g4lt | kimo tell the installation program to go on, it might eject it for you |
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| 22:35.07 | kimo | g4lt, tomb0y, I can eject it manually, can I then force umount it? |
| 22:35.20 | g4lt | jharrison ugh, that leaves other issues, like a flaky disk |
| 22:35.30 | g4lt | kimo leave that for the last resort |
| 22:36.06 | kimo | g4lt, I installation has droped me in a shell & told me to now mount my CD2 in /mnt/cdrom, so... |
| 22:36.11 | jharrison | g4lt: I suppose it could be a flakey disk. I have not had problems with it before. why would it just remove sbin both times? |
| 22:36.14 | g4lt | jharrison pave, put in a less flaky disk, hten reinstall |
| 22:36.28 | jharrison | g4lt: you mean my hard drive right? |
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| 22:36.34 | g4lt | jharrison there are plenty of answers, none good |
| 22:36.43 | g4lt | jharrison yes |
| 22:36.43 | dav | is there a way to not see all of the logs spit out on the console? |
| 22:36.50 | jharrison | g4lt: what do you mean pave? |
| 22:37.03 | g4lt | kimo try eject /mnt/cdrom |
| 22:37.14 | g4lt | jharrison reformat |
| 22:37.41 | jharrison | g4lt: are there any disk checking utils that are open source that I could run tests on my disk with? |
| 22:38.06 | kimo | g4lt, shit now it wont even eject, though it ejected it before!!! |
| 22:38.34 | _sbk_ | jharrison: I suppose one could just attempt to dd /dev/hdxx into /dev/null :-) should be a quick sanity check |
| 22:38.38 | g4lt | jharrison many, like TCT is one of the biggies, but I'd avoid using that disk in that machine |
| 22:38.55 | kimo | g4lt, YES 'eject' only does the eject |
| 22:39.05 | jharrison | g4lt: I have replacement drives on hand if need be but I dont want to have to use them if I dont have to. im going to be building some rack mount cases |
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| 22:39.19 | jharrison | g4lt: so you think my disk is bad? |
| 22:39.29 | g4lt | jharrison I think it won't work in that system |
| 22:39.41 | jharrison | g4lt: what the disk checker? |
| 22:39.59 | g4lt | jharrison and thereore, must be used where you have no problems if he disk flakes out, like a /home |
| 22:40.13 | jharrison | oh ok |
| 22:40.14 | g4lt | jharrison the package is tct |
| 22:40.28 | jharrison | g4lt: I will reinstall and then use that to check with |
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| 22:40.48 | jharrison | g4lt: should I reinstall off a woody cd instead this time? |
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| 22:40.49 | g4lt | jharrison and PLEASE don't put / or /usr on that disk ;) |
| 22:40.50 | kimo | g4lt, YES 'eject' only does the eject, how do I force umount it now plz |
| 22:41.05 | jharrison | g4lt: thats the only disk in this machine |
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| 22:41.17 | g4lt | kimo don't bother, put the new disk in, hten continue with the installation |
| 22:41.30 | jharrison | g4lt: I have a knoppix cd here |
| 22:41.41 | jharrison | g4lt: would that be of any use? |
| 22:41.47 | kimo | g4lt, but it wont mount coz it says /dev/cdrom is already mounted on /mnt/cdrom |
| 22:42.04 | g4lt | kimo don't mount, just continue |
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| 22:42.21 | PENIS_LICKER | #spamc |
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| 22:42.44 | simonrvn | what a duh |
| 22:42.49 | g4lt | dondelelcaro a one-drop flood? ;) |
| 22:42.52 | alindeman | I'm following this bot around |
| 22:42.58 | alindeman | I'm trying my best to get it klined |
| 22:43.05 | simonrvn | alright |
| 22:43.09 | simonrvn | thanks |
| 22:43.12 | dondelelcaro | g4lt: sorry, just the default reason... |
| 22:43.24 | simonrvn | edit your script ;P |
| 22:43.25 | g4lt | -:- PENIS_LICKER [msxchififj@ABordeaux-103-1-1-56.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr] |
| 22:43.42 | mateusz | ;) |
| 22:43.44 | g4lt | dondelelcaro don't be sorry, it's just amusing |
| 22:44.09 | g4lt | alindeman is that enough info? |
| 22:44.34 | alindeman | g4lt: The problem is not information, it's just I have to find someone to kline it |
| 22:44.50 | g4lt | well, LoRez was alive a few minutes ago |
| 22:44.56 | kimo | g4lt, when I 'cd /mnt/cdrom && ls' all file names are '????????' (question marks) |
| 22:45.00 | mateusz | Any examples of smbfs lines in /etc/fstab ??? |
| 22:45.19 | dav | please help my console is flooded by kernel logs |
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| 22:45.23 | g4lt | kimo don't do ANYTHING in that shell except exit it and continue with the installer |
| 22:45.24 | simonrvn | man fstab, man mount |
| 22:45.28 | mateusz | Cause I have a strange share name with empty spaces... |
| 22:45.38 | GAP | How do I unzip a .zip file? |
| 22:45.40 | mateusz | simonrvn: tired that |
| 22:45.50 | mateusz | simonrvn: but the remote share has empty spaces.. |
| 22:45.53 | g4lt | mateusz escape\ them\ like\ this |
| 22:46.04 | JinDrak | GAP: unzip |
| 22:46.05 | kimo | g4lt, I did that, the installer is complaining also dd: reading `/mnt/cdrom/IMAGES.DIR/FS.0': Input/output error |
| 22:46.05 | kimo | 0+0 records in |
| 22:46.05 | kimo | 0+0 records out |
| 22:46.11 | g4lt | mateusz "or put the sharename in quotes" |
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| 22:46.18 | mateusz | g4lt: mount says that sth is wrong in line in fstab |
| 22:46.32 | simonrvn | do what he said already |
| 22:46.38 | g4lt | kimo let it retry |
| 22:46.39 | mateusz | g4lt: I tried with " and \ but the same thing happen |
| 22:46.50 | mateusz | g4lt: on command line it works fine with \ |
| 22:47.09 | mateusz | g4lt: mount -t smbfs -o username=BoBi,password='' //192.168.1.7/Public\ \(F\) /mnt/tobiasz/ |
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| 22:47.22 | mateusz | g4lt: Do you know how to put it in fstab ? |
| 22:47.42 | GAP | ok thx |
| 22:47.54 | kimo | g4lt, sorry retrying but failing (may be it's a different filesystem than the first CD?) |
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| 22:48.23 | mateusz | Anybody ? |
| 22:48.49 | g4lt | kimo dd doesn't need a mounted fs.... |
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| 22:49.36 | mateusz | "//tobiasz/Public\ \(F\)" /mnt/tobiasz smbfs credentials=/etc/rsmb,user,noauto 0 0 |
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| 22:49.39 | mateusz | is wrong... |
| 22:49.48 | mateusz | Any idea ? |
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| 22:50.05 | phogg | mateusz: "//tobiasz/Public (F)" /mnt/tobiasz smbfs credentials=/etc/rsmb,user,noauto 0 0 |
| 22:50.09 | g4lt | mateusz either-or, you don't need both quotes and escapes |
| 22:50.23 | kimo | g4lt, I did dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/tmp/test (it succeded) |
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| 22:50.26 | phogg | mateusz: or better yet, don't use complicated share names |
| 22:50.38 | mateusz | phogg: tried that... |
| 22:50.47 | yorkb | why doses grip rip from cds at like 2.0x |
| 22:50.53 | mateusz | phogg: that's not my share so I can't change it.. |
| 22:50.57 | yorkb | can't it go faster |
| 22:51.06 | g4lt | kimo try mount -o remount /mnt/cdrom |
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| 22:52.20 | mateusz | g4lt: [mntent]: line 25 in /etc/fstab is bad |
| 22:53.12 | mateusz | phogg: [mntent]: line 25 in /etc/fstab is bad |
| 22:53.21 | mateusz | phogg: with " and \ |
| 22:53.26 | mateusz | phogg: tried both |
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| 22:53.49 | mateusz | phogg: maybe sth's wrong with other arguments ? |
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| 22:54.02 | kimo | g4lt, it dead , it sees 3 files (all of them 0 bytes) |
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| 22:54.32 | kimo | g4lt, dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/tmp/test, I will try to mount the image |
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| 22:54.34 | mateusz | g4lt: ? |
| 22:54.59 | phogg | mateusz: maybe it's different for newer versions of smbfs, but I have never heard of a credentials= option |
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| 22:55.46 | kimo | g4lt, is /tmp/test an iso image this way? |
| 22:55.51 | idnarhtim | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:55.51 | idnarhtim | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:56.18 | mateusz | phogg: it's in man but if I do it with password='',user=user I get the same error |
| 22:56.21 | phogg | idnarhtim: ah, interesting. And useful. |
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| 22:57.23 | mateusz | phogg: I need just an example of fstab line for smbfs shares... |
| 22:57.35 | phogg | mateusz: yours is entirely correct |
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| 22:57.44 | mateusz | phogg: heh... |
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| 22:58.22 | phogg | mateusz: //spineynet/tmp /mnt/spineynettmp smbfs defaults,user,noauto 0 0 |
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| 22:58.55 | azeem | hi |
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| 22:59.04 | kimo | azeem, hello |
| 22:59.30 | mateusz | phogg: when I do it without empty spaces I get not such a share ... |
| 23:00.02 | azeem | hacim: dude |
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| 23:00.15 | mateusz | phogg: so that's the problem with empty spaces... |
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| 23:01.14 | g4lt | mateusz try %20 for space |
| 23:01.31 | mateusz | g4lt: ok |
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| 23:02.29 | oobe | hi |
| 23:02.32 | jbr | mateusz: if it helps, ( = %28 and ) = %29 |
| 23:02.52 | hlen | I've compiled ufs2 in a kernel, but for some reason it is not recognizing the partitions which I _would_ try to mount, that is, hda{6,8,9} don't even exist.. any ideas? |
| 23:03.09 | mateusz | jbr: Thanks |
| 23:03.20 | g4lt | hlen did you include bsd partitions support? |
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| 23:03.42 | hlen | g4lt, hmm.. there's an option for that? if so, that's great.. :) |
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| 23:04.08 | azeem | bah |
| 23:04.11 | g4lt | hlen it's under "partition type selection", surprisingly |
| 23:04.41 | hlen | thanks g4lt |
| 23:04.50 | mateusz | jbr: 16719: tree connect failed: ERRDOS - ERRnosuchshare (You specified an invalid share name) |
| 23:05.05 | kimo | g4lt, mounting the image worked YAAAAY, plz memo this tip & tell it to others in case mount gets that stupid again :) |
| 23:05.36 | sussudio | wangggg |
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| 23:05.46 | jbr | mateusz: sounds like it doesn't like that sort of escape, then. But I haven't been following. |
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| 23:07.32 | Nap` | what needs to be done to use udev on debian ? |
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| 23:09.40 | hlen | g4lt, I can't find it.. there's "Partition Types->Advanced partition selection" and a bunch of new stuff there, but nothing says BSD |
| 23:09.58 | g4lt | hlen what kernel? |
| 23:10.14 | mateusz | g4lt: smbclient -I tobiasz -L WINDOWS shows that sharename is Public (F) |
| 23:10.14 | hlen | g4lt, 2.6.6-rc3 |
| 23:11.13 | mateusz | jbr: ? |
| 23:11.36 | g4lt | hlen try msdos-type. hell, you can check them all and not hurt anything |
| 23:12.50 | hlen | g4lt, I'll do that, thank you again |
| 23:13.19 | mentor | sussudio: Do you have anything constructive to add...or are you jsut here to troll? |
| 23:13.26 | MrKeuner | can I tell apt-get to uninstall/downgrade all the packages that were not there at a specific date? |
| 23:13.36 | mentor | MrKeuner: No, |
| 23:13.45 | MrKeuner | mentor/ dpkg? |
| 23:13.53 | mentor | ~tell MrKeuner about downgrade |
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| 23:14.18 | mateusz | jbr: //tobiasz/Public%20%28F%29 /mnt/tobiasz smbfs credentials=/etc/rsmb,user,noauto 0 0 |
| 23:14.32 | mateusz | jbr: stil dosen't work.. |
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| 23:14.59 | sussudio | mentor: i could ask the same of you again |
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| 23:15.09 | MrKeuner | "some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later..." what does that mean? |
| 23:15.32 | jbr | mateusz: I'm no expert on samba share names. How about putting that in quotes, '//tobiasz/Public%20%28F%29' ? |
| 23:15.59 | jbr | mateusz: did you try //tobiasz/Public%20(F) ? |
| 23:16.17 | mateusz | jbr: yes |
| 23:16.18 | mentor | sussudio: Well, I'm here to help keep the channels free of trolls :) Can I take your question as a 'no'? |
| 23:16.48 | MrKeuner | so downgrade is not possible just because the files created by them will not be compatible with a previous version of the program? So why not remove those files too? |
| 23:16.51 | mateusz | jbr: when I put it in ' quotes I get --help from smbmount tool |
| 23:17.07 | mateusz | jbr: looks like the first arg isn't even past ... |
| 23:17.12 | sussudio | mentor: no, the way i see it, you're just here to troll people so you can enforce your ops. it's unbecoming. |
| 23:18.06 | mateusz | Any ideas ? |
| 23:18.18 | mentor | sussudio: Fine. Consider this a warning before a more permanent ban. |
| 23:18.32 | thomas_adam | !britsmite sussudio |
| 23:18.41 | jbr | mateusz: no, I don't even have smbmount (or its man page) installed |
| 23:19.28 | MrKeuner | mentor/ what about this question then? can I tell apt-get to uninstall all the packages that were not there at a specific date? |
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| 23:20.07 | mateusz | jbr: jelmer from #samba said I don't think that's ever going to work... |
| 23:20.17 | mentor | MrKeuner: If you have a list of the packages at a certain date... |
| 23:20.18 | mateusz | heh.. |
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| 23:20.29 | mentor | MrKeuner: apt doesn't keep a package history. |
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| 23:20.37 | g4lt | mateusz tehn get jelmer to tell you how to do it |
| 23:20.47 | MrKeuner | how can I produce such a list? |
| 23:20.57 | gilgamesh | hi |
| 23:21.05 | knoppix_ | hez |
| 23:21.07 | mateusz | g4lt: he is not responding.. |
| 23:22.04 | mateusz | g4lt: heh he said that smbfs dosen't support escapse chars and the solution is to rename share |
| 23:22.11 | mateusz | g4lt: but it's remote ;) |
| 23:22.34 | MrKeuner | mentor/ and there is no way to tell apt to produce a list which it should use to roll back to the programs on the list. right? |
| 23:22.42 | thomas_adam | !apt-listbugs fix |
| 23:22.43 | dpkg | If you are having problems with apt-listbugs: "apt-get --reinstall install libdpkg-ruby1.8" |
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| 23:23.06 | mentor | MrKeuner: Well, not automatically...You can get a dump of the currently installed pacakges fairly easily though... |
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| 23:23.13 | jbr | MrKeuner: "dpkg --get-selections" will list currently installed packages; its output can be fed to "dpkg --set-selections" |
| 23:23.17 | knoppix | exact |
| 23:23.34 | knoppix | peace |
| 23:23.40 | knoppix | :) |
| 23:23.50 | mentor | jbr: Will that reset selections on packages that didn't exist when --get-selections is used. |
| 23:23.51 | knoppix | im polen |
| 23:24.08 | mentor | ~tell knoppix about knoppix |
| 23:24.12 | eduard13 | How in the world can I execute tar czf - / | ssh root@host 'cat > /home/backup.tar.gz' in shell and logout without it being killed? |
| 23:24.16 | jbr | mentor: hmm, I'd never considered that |
| 23:24.40 | mentor | eduard13: nohup? bg; disown? |
| 23:24.45 | g4lt | eduard13 nohup |
| 23:24.55 | g4lt | !bite mentor |
| 23:24.58 | eduard13 | But ssh prompts for password |
| 23:25.00 | eduard13 | :\ |
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| 23:25.10 | MrKeuner | jbr/ dpkg --get-selections does not list versions of the packages. I guess I need something that specifies them |
| 23:25.11 | g4lt | eduard13 use DSA keys |
| 23:25.18 | eduard13 | g4lt: how so? |
| 23:25.21 | nvz | eduard13: so read the manpage |
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| 23:25.44 | eduard13 | Will do |
| 23:25.57 | eduard13 | After configuring the keys, how do I run nohup? |
| 23:26.05 | eduard13 | You can see I'm piping output |
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| 23:26.22 | nvz | I am about to do that myself as soon as I get motivated, I threw together a laptop now I need to get it configured to work with ssh on the rest of the network |
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| 23:26.59 | jbr | MrKeuner: you want to be able to do downgrades to outdated versions of unstable or something? sounds like much pain |
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| 23:27.19 | nvz | I think I will have to make a trip to the store before I fell motivated to do that |
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| 23:27.57 | steven_ | why a normal user cant run cdcd |
| 23:27.58 | DuDe-X | anyone alive? |
| 23:28.13 | MrKeuner | jbr/ well What I exactly have in mind is to upgrade to gnome 2.6 using experimental repository but in case it doesn't work well I wanna keep my current configuration |
| 23:28.20 | g4lt | DuDe-X no, all 700+ of us are dead |
| 23:28.30 | DuDe-X | oh ok. |
| 23:28.32 | DuDe-X | l8ta |
| 23:28.55 | lanchow | i'm desesperatly searching the locales and keymap needed by an US keybord with accentos: éèùàç |
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| 23:29.18 | vagrant__ | anyone had any luck at setting up LDAP for account management? |
| 23:29.24 | DuDe-X | trying to get X11 + KDE 3.2 to load instead of Aqua |
| 23:29.25 | azeem | MrKeuner: you could have said that earlier |
| 23:29.32 | steven_ | why a normal user cant run cdcd |
| 23:29.35 | g4lt | lanchow en_US-UTF8 |
| 23:29.39 | DuDe-X | OSX |
| 23:29.49 | vagrant__ | I can't seem to get the bastard up and going. |
| 23:29.55 | MrKeuner | azeem/ well I guess so :) |
| 23:30.10 | azeem | MrKeuner: downgrading to a whole distribution (i.e. unstable or testing or whatever in your case) is quite easy, as opposed to downgrading to an exact set of packages/versions |
| 23:30.15 | vagrant__ | is there a good document out there about migrating? |
| 23:30.41 | DuDe-X | suggestions on a howto? |
| 23:30.47 | azeem | MrKeuner: but of course, if you upgrade to experimental and it breaks, it's all your fault :p |
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| 23:31.40 | Aranda | hi |
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| 23:32.26 | Aranda | anybody know how to change the monitor frecuency ? |
| 23:32.41 | MrKeuner | azeem/ what I understand is you are telling me to downgrade to testing and then come back to sid if it breaks in the experiamental? |
| 23:33.11 | DuDe-X | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:33.16 | g4lt | Justin ping? |
| 23:33.34 | azeem | MrKeuner: no. What I'm saying is you should stay with what works cause we can't help you if you break your system by running experimental |
| 23:33.34 | DuDe-X | or something to that extent... its the config file for X11 pre-xorg changes.. |
| 23:33.44 | DuDe-X | you'll have to restart your X11 session |
| 23:34.03 | g4lt | Justin hurry... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3094818211 |
| 23:34.06 | azeem | MrKeuner: but if you really want to run experimental, it /should/ be fairly easy to downgrade to whatever you run now |
| 23:34.06 | steven_ | why a normal user cant run cdcd |
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| 23:34.27 | Justin | hmm |
| 23:34.29 | azeem | steven_: check the devices on your CD devices |
| 23:34.32 | azeem | eh |
| 23:34.40 | azeem | steven_: check the permissions of your CD device |
| 23:34.43 | Justin | g4lt: isnt that !upa? |
| 23:34.52 | MrKeuner | azeem/ and how can I do that in case I would like to return back? |
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| 23:35.12 | Justin | where the hell does that plug into on an ultra2 |
| 23:35.22 | g4lt | Justin 24-bit == UPA |
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| 23:35.32 | azeem | MrKeuner: something about setting the proper priorities in /etc/apt/preferences I think. Never done it myself though |
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| 23:35.39 | gilgamesh | Justin: thanks for all the help earlier. I finally got OSS to work |
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| 23:36.25 | robochan | blah |
| 23:36.54 | g4lt | Justin you mean, it's a vertical? sowwy |
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| 23:37.27 | g4lt | Justin I just caught the auction on rescue@sunhelp and your name popped into mind |
| 23:37.37 | jessica | hi all. i am trying to use rom-0-matic.net to create a rom image for my nic. LNE100TX [i'm trying to setup a ltsp network]. for some reason i thought it is centruar-p but that did not work. does anyone know why? |
| 23:38.02 | Justin | fuckfuckfuck |
| 23:38.13 | Justin | just notices a bunch of little capaceters on the MB fell off |
| 23:38.14 | lanchow2 | does someone know what i need (locales and set) to get US keyboard with éèàç ? |
| 23:38.19 | Aranda | anybody know how to change the monitor frecuency ? !__! |
| 23:38.23 | Justin | thats not good |
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| 23:39.28 | Tuxsmartguy | yo |
| 23:39.30 | Tuxsmartguy | soir tout le monde |
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| 23:39.46 | cafuego | No, it's norning. |
| 23:39.55 | cafuego | but with an 'm'. |
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| 23:41.01 | blf | ? |
| 23:41.17 | phogg | cafuego: I don't know what crazy planet you're from, but norning with an m? Madness. |
| 23:41.38 | cafuego | phogg: Flirble Iv |
| 23:41.58 | Aranda | anybody know how to change the monitor frecuency ? plz! |
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| 23:43.12 | phogg | Aranda: edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
| 23:43.34 | Aranda | uhm, with an editor as joe? |
| 23:43.34 | phogg | Aranda: but you probably want to use a configurator of some kind |
| 23:43.44 | phogg | Aranda: yes, any text editor will do |
| 23:43.49 | Aranda | i want change 65 hz to 85 |
| 23:43.52 | Aranda | !__! |
| 23:44.24 | PerfDave | Aranda: "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" should do the trick |
| 23:44.41 | cafuego | Aranda: Run at a lower resolution, it will automatically up the frequency |
| 23:45.09 | Aranda | how do i do it cafuego ? |
| 23:45.14 | Aranda | [PerfDave] i did it |
| 23:45.22 | Aranda | but i cannot change frecuency......! |
| 23:45.23 | lanchow2 | does someone know what i need (locales and set) to get US keyboard with éèàç ? |
| 23:45.31 | cafuego | Aranda: What resolution is X running at? |
| 23:45.34 | Infohawk | The Debian Reference guide says, "hdparm -q -c3 -d1 -u1 -m16 /dev/hda to speed up a modern IDE system. (It may be dangerous.)" What does this do and why may it be dangerous? |
| 23:45.40 | Aranda | 1280x1024 |
| 23:45.44 | caphuso | Infohawk: man hdparm |
| 23:45.53 | cafuego | Aranda: Set it to 1024x768 |
| 23:46.09 | PerfDave | Aranda: To manually set frequency, you have to use "Advanced" configuration where it gives you the option |
| 23:46.17 | drum | lanchow2, try dpkg-reconfigure console-data |
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| 23:46.29 | rdancer | lanchow2: are these four the only accented letters you want? |
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| 23:46.42 | drum | lanchow2, or you can try dpkg-reconfigure -plow locales |
| 23:46.43 | Infohawk | lanchow2, if you use gnome, I would just use the keyboard layout switcher applet. |
| 23:46.56 | WALoeIII | how do I change the timezone on my machine? |
| 23:47.03 | WALoeIII | its on CDT right now but I want to move it to GMT |
| 23:47.05 | Aranda | ok, thx all |
| 23:47.06 | caphuso | WALoeIII: tzconfig |
| 23:47.06 | cafuego | tzconfig |
| 23:47.11 | WALoeIII | schweet |
| 23:47.36 | WALoeIII | should I put my server on local time? |
| 23:47.38 | WALoeIII | or GMT? |
| 23:47.46 | cafuego | yes |
| 23:47.50 | WALoeIII | yes |
| 23:47.52 | WALoeIII | tat doesn't help me |
| 23:47.53 | WALoeIII | ... |
| 23:47.55 | WALoeIII | that* |
| 23:48.00 | phogg | WALoeIII: only you can know which is best |
| 23:48.00 | caphuso | WALoeIII: we don't know what your BIOS is using, so we really can't answer |
| 23:48.01 | cafuego | it's irrelevant |
| 23:48.15 | caphuso | !tell WALoeIII -about enter |
| 23:48.25 | WALoeIII | well I'd sync my bios with it right? |
| 23:48.50 | Infohawk | cafuego, I read the hdparm man for those flags but I don't see why it's dangerous to run hdparm -q -c3 -d1 -u1 -m16 /dev/hda to speed up a modern IDE system.. I don't know that much about hard drives though. |
| 23:48.51 | lanchow2 | yes i'm using dpkg-reconfigure console-data but i don't find the good name |
| 23:49.00 | cafuego | You sync by using 'ntpdate' to the box is always on time regardless. |
| 23:49.01 | steven_ | why a normal user cant run cdcd |
| 23:49.09 | azeem | steven_: check the permissions of your CD device |
| 23:49.15 | caphuso | steven_: read the channel FAQ |
| 23:49.33 | WALoeIII | ah tzconfig is smart - it sets local and GMT :D |
| 23:49.43 | caphuso | it huh? |
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| 23:49.50 | steven_ | a normal user can mount the cd or a data cd but it cant run cdcd |
| 23:49.55 | WALoeIII | Local time is now: Sun May 9 18:49:15 CDT 2004. |
| 23:49.55 | WALoeIII | Universal Time is now: Sun May 9 23:49:15 UTC 2004. |
| 23:50.00 | caphuso | steven_: read. the. channel. FAQ. |
| 23:50.06 | WALoeIII | it has set both times correctly - no need to setup GMT |
| 23:50.12 | steven_ | caphuso: where |
| 23:50.19 | caphuso | WALoeIII: you seriously misunderstood everything |
| 23:50.26 | thomas_adam | steven_: /topic |
| 23:50.37 | caphuso | steven_: i really don't know any other place than the one in the /topic |
| 23:50.49 | WALoeIII | well then enlilghten me instead of patronizing me by telling me about the 'enter' key |
| 23:51.00 | cafuego | haha, those dates are both yesterday ;-) |
| 23:51.04 | sussudio | Infohawk: you didn't really do man hdparm, did you? |
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| 23:51.25 | WALoeIII | its May 9 in my country :o |
| 23:51.26 | thomas_adam | sussudio: It would be a #debian record. |
| 23:51.38 | sussudio | thomas_adam: what's the point in lying about it? |
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| 23:51.54 | thomas_adam | sussudio: I don't know, I RTFM myself. |
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| 23:52.19 | sussudio | thomas_adam: especially the bits about 'massive filesystem corruption' and the things in all caps about experimental features |
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| 23:52.38 | thomas_adam | sussudio: I must have missed that blindly obvious section. |
| 23:53.01 | thomas_adam | sussudio: But then I haven't read the /topic or the FAQ like most people here, either. :) |
| 23:53.13 | Infohawk | sussudio, it says "dangerous." Massive file corruption and other stuff I don't understand. How am I supposed to know if it applies to my system. Never mind. |
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| 23:53.31 | thomas_adam | !special |
| 23:53.32 | dpkg | well, special is what apt is |
| 23:53.43 | sussudio | Infohawk: so you *don't* even know if it applies to your system or not and you're willing to risk it anyway? |
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| 23:53.55 | thomas_adam | Infohawk: Go back to windows. |
| 23:54.03 | azeem | thomas_adam: hush |
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| 23:54.40 | Infohawk | sussudio, sure. These can be fixed. |
| 23:54.54 | gilgamesh | how exactly do you change the desktpo resolutioni in kde 3.2? |
| 23:55.08 | thomas_adam | gilgamesh: man xf86config-4 |
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| 23:55.48 | thomas_adam | gilgamesh: or 'apt-get install gvidm' |
| 23:56.04 | sussudio | Infohawk: not unless you make a backup first |
| 23:56.23 | kimo | question: my bash doesn't read ~/.bashrc, why? |
| 23:56.33 | thomas_adam | kimo: uncomment it in ~/.bash_profile |
| 23:56.43 | green-ears | gilgamesh; dpkg-reconfiger xserver-xfree86 |
| 23:57.03 | kimo | thomas_adam, I do not have a .bash_profile |
| 23:57.06 | thomas_adam | green-ears: yet again, you're wrong: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
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| 23:57.17 | thomas_adam | kimo: Don't lie. |
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| 23:57.29 | sussudio | thomas_adam: it's the in-thing |
| 23:57.31 | jbr | kimo: is there one in /etc/skel/ ? |
| 23:57.39 | green-ears | ok again |
| 23:57.42 | kimo | t@matrix:~# ls .bash* |
| 23:57.43 | kimo | .bash_history .bashrc |
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| 23:57.50 | thomas_adam | jbr: The base-system *supplies* one. |
| 23:57.54 | kimo | thomas_adam, :) none here |
| 23:58.03 | thomas_adam | kimo: Then you are special. |
| 23:58.26 | kimo | thomas_adam, what should it have |
| 23:58.55 | thomas_adam | kimo: Things. |
| 23:59.05 | thomas_adam | kimo: Why did you delete it? |
| 23:59.11 | thomas_adam | I'll ask it another way... |
| 23:59.18 | thomas_adam | kimo: are you running debian? |
| 23:59.23 | kimo | thomas_adam, it Just not there |
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| 23:59.27 | jbr | kimo: are you sure you're running Debian? |
| 23:59.36 | kimo | thomas_adam, (plz dont shout :) no knoppix |
| 23:59.41 | thomas_adam | FFS |
| 23:59.42 | thomas_adam | !FFS |
| 23:59.43 | dpkg | methinks ffs is for fuck's sake, or for fine's sake. UCB's Fast File System, or for fearl's sake, or forgetfearl syndrome, or for Fooz' sake |
| 23:59.44 | sussudio | i knew it. |
| 23:59.51 | thomas_adam | kimo: /topic, and now fuck off. |
| 23:59.58 | azeem | thomas_adam: hush |
