| 00:00.14 | thomas_adam | azeem: I like kula shaker. |
| 00:00.25 | sussudio | thomas_adam: it's a cover |
| 00:00.33 | thomas_adam | sussudio: hehehe. |
| 00:00.56 | leOn | does anyone know how can i remove the "Debian Menu" from the gnome main menu ? |
| 00:00.56 | simonrvn | Justin: *very* carefully |
| 00:01.07 | Infohawk | If one sets hdd settings with hdparm, does the system remember settings upon reboot? |
| 00:01.16 | leOn | hey simonrvn |
| 00:01.21 | simonrvn | leOn: question is, why? hi |
| 00:01.31 | sussudio | thomas_adam: deep purple, you know |
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| 00:01.37 | thomas_adam | Infohawk: If you read the manpage, that answer is clear. |
| 00:01.45 | thomas_adam | sussudio: Indeed. |
| 00:02.23 | thomas_adam | Infohawk: If you don't read the manpage, then we get to laugh at you. |
| 00:02.27 | Justin | simonrvn: that problably explains why it will work for days and then just lock up |
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| 00:02.45 | leOn | simonrvn: let's say that the computer must be prepared for lusers, meaning it's supposed to be as simple as possible, and show only the needed applications and menus |
| 00:02.46 | simonrvn | Justin: likely ;) |
| 00:02.49 | jingo | hmm.. for some unknown reason /boot/boot-menu.b is missing. how can i recreate it? it doesn't seem to be in any debian package |
| 00:02.56 | Justin | i should just take out one of the drives and put it in the ss20 and give the u2 a permanent time out:) |
| 00:02.56 | thomas_adam | Justin: You can probably get away with ventilating the card somehow. Drill a hole in the side of your case. :) |
| 00:03.07 | kenade | leOn: apt-get remove menu |
| 00:03.11 | Infohawk | thomas_adam, laugh at me if that makes you feel better. I don't see anything in the manpage that talks about that. But my reading skills may just be poor. I guess that means Debian's not for me. |
| 00:03.13 | Justin | thomas_adam: what card? |
| 00:03.15 | leOn | kenade: done that |
| 00:03.20 | simonrvn | leOn: oh, then there's some README somewhere in the gnome package on how to do that |
| 00:03.28 | kenade | leOn: hmmm |
| 00:03.30 | leOn | it's empty, but the option is still there |
| 00:03.32 | thomas_adam | Justin: Freudian slip, s/card/u2/ |
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| 00:04.06 | thomas_adam | Infohawk: Don't lay the guilt trip down. You can always add the commands to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh |
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| 00:05.52 | simonrvn | leOn: maybe edit the /etc/menu-methods script? |
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| 00:09.03 | leOn | simonrvn: /etc/menu-methods is a dir, and in there i have only one script, gnome-panel that i can't relate to "Debian Menu" |
| 00:09.36 | simonrvn | /usr/share/doc/menu/* |
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| 00:10.01 | leOn | i don't have menu installed |
| 00:10.03 | leOn | =) |
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| 00:10.26 | jcurry | I downloaded the beta installer iso, and burned it, but my comp can't boot from it...how do I use the boot or rescue floppy to install from the cd? is this possible? |
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| 00:11.10 | dude | hello all, iver gooled and cant figure out how to assign my dhcpd to a specific network card, any help please? |
| 00:11.18 | simonrvn | leOn: then htf is that debian menu being created? did you try looking in the /usr/share/doc/gnome* dirs at all for the answer? |
| 00:11.50 | dude | f |
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| 00:12.06 | dude | perhaps im googling for the wrong thins, any ideas? |
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| 00:12.20 | azeem | simonrvn: seems there is support for it in the upstream gnome-panel source |
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| 00:12.31 | knoppix_ | good |
| 00:12.49 | leOn | simonrvn: i've managed to see that that menu, "per se" is created with the "menu" package ... but the entry in the menu seems to be controled in another way... |
| 00:12.58 | simonrvn | azeem: there's also a way to disable it. maybe not in gnome 2.4 though :/ |
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| 00:13.18 | azeem | jdub said you'd need to hack gnome-panel |
| 00:13.39 | azeem | well, that's second hand knowledge from reading -gtk-gnome, I haven't really looked into it |
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| 00:13.51 | tom1234 | ³ |
| 00:14.10 | eduard13 | How do I nohup the following? tar czf - / | ssh host 'cat > /backup.tar.gz' |
| 00:14.11 | eduard13 | ? |
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| 00:14.38 | tom1234 | eduard, are you trying to do a remote backup through ssh? |
| 00:14.42 | tom1234 | if so, try using scp |
| 00:14.56 | leOn | then i should prepare my editor heh?... |
| 00:15.14 | Infohawk | Is there a way to know which (e)ide interface my hdd/system use? I want to know if -u1 flag for hdparm would corrupt my filesystem. |
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| 00:15.19 | eduard13 | tom1234: how do I pipe tar's output through scp? |
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| 00:15.42 | gcbirzan | | scp - foo:bar ? |
| 00:15.46 | caphuso | eduard13: you don't |
| 00:15.50 | tom1234 | eduard13: oh, you don't want to send the file, just the output? |
| 00:15.51 | azeem | Infohawk: really, I'd advice you to stay off hdparm. Or see whether you can get a good article from a Linux magazine about it or so |
| 00:15.59 | eduard13 | tom1234: I want to send the file |
| 00:16.17 | eduard13 | gcbirzan: does not work |
| 00:16.18 | tom1234 | make a simple script, tar the file, then use scp |
| 00:16.22 | gcbirzan | Indeed. |
| 00:16.23 | jeff | eduard13: run from cron or from within screen? |
| 00:16.33 | leOn | eduard13: why not tar zcvf user@host:/path/to/file.tgz dir1 dir2 dir3 --rsh-command=/usr/bin/ssh ? |
| 00:16.34 | jeff | tom1234: eww |
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| 00:16.41 | jeff | tom1234: no reason to waste all that space. |
| 00:16.44 | Infohawk | azeem, if I listened to your advice I wouldn't have dma enabled right now. |
| 00:16.51 | Infohawk | azeem, but thanks for the suggestion. |
| 00:16.54 | gcbirzan | | scp /dev/stdin should work. But you should just use rsync over ssh anyway. |
| 00:16.56 | thomas_adam | Infohawk: careful with hdparm, please.. |
| 00:16.57 | azeem | Infohawk: heh :) |
| 00:17.00 | tom1234 | jeff: all that space? all 20 extra bytes? |
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| 00:17.21 | azeem | tom1234: "the file" is his root-file system |
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| 00:17.43 | jeff | tom1234: i wasn't aware that the tarball was only 20 bytes large. |
| 00:17.48 | eduard13 | leOn: what's the -rsh-command at the end for? |
| 00:17.48 | tom1234 | azeem: oooooh. thats little different. lol |
| 00:18.00 | GAP | If I download an .iso file, and I dont have a cd or a cdburner, can I fake it somehow and trick the computer into thinking I have a cd? |
| 00:18.03 | tom1234 | jeff: my error, i failed to pay attention to WHAT he was sending.. lol |
| 00:18.13 | azeem | GAP: you can mount it via loopback |
| 00:18.16 | jeff | tom1234: ah. better, then. :) |
| 00:18.20 | leOn | eduard13: to tell tar to use ssh instead of rsh for the remote connection |
| 00:18.21 | Tired_ | who would one talk to about writing a howto? |
| 00:18.25 | tom1234 | also, do you guys know if there is a tool like, lspci for the isa bus?? |
| 00:18.30 | elshiftos | did someone sshout ROOOT at me then? :) |
| 00:18.32 | leOn | eduard13: "man tar" |
| 00:18.32 | azeem | GAP: I always check the cdrecord manpage for the syntax on how to do this |
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| 00:18.46 | dondelelcaro | leOn: it's not necessary, actually... because rsh is a alternative that uses ssh... |
| 00:18.57 | dondelelcaro | [at least, on a Debian system...] |
| 00:18.58 | GAP | azeem: "man cdrecord" ? |
| 00:19.09 | azeem | GAP: yeah, if you have it installed |
| 00:19.15 | leOn | dondelelcaro: i like to be general enough |
| 00:19.16 | leOn | =) |
| 00:19.20 | elshiftos | oooops, irc clients really complain when you irc as root |
| 00:19.35 | azeem | GAP: or just check the mount manpage. But perhaps I misunderstood what you're trying to achieve |
| 00:19.40 | The_Vulture | gap: there's an example of how to use mount to do that in the CD Writing HOWTO *shrugs* |
| 00:19.51 | The_Vulture | under something like "testing your image" |
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| 00:20.13 | eduard13 | leOn: works |
| 00:20.25 | Tuxsmartguy | hi |
| 00:20.30 | Tired_ | i figured out how to 'emulate' a boot loader in 9x...that will boot either os on startup, without lilo |
| 00:20.35 | Tuxsmartguy | does anyone know a good free blog ? |
| 00:20.36 | eduard13 | leOn: can I nohup that ocmmand? |
| 00:21.23 | leOn | eduard13: i'd sugest screen instead |
| 00:21.31 | eduard13 | I'll be logging out though |
| 00:21.38 | azeem | that's what screen is for |
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| 00:21.55 | azeem | ...besides other stuff |
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| 00:21.57 | leOn | eduard13: "man screen" |
| 00:22.35 | GAP | azeem: I'm downloading cdrecord now... What I'm trying to do is.. I have an ISO (for a game) and I'm supposed to burn it to a cd to install the game, but I dont have one. So I just want to find a way to install it without having to put it on cd... |
| 00:22.49 | leOn | hmmm... in the gnome-panel source i see |
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| 00:22.57 | eduard13 | so # screen mycommand ? |
| 00:23.03 | leOn | #: gnome-panel/distribution.c:27 |
| 00:23.03 | leOn | msgid "Debian Menu" |
| 00:23.03 | leOn | msgstr "" |
| 00:23.04 | Weeble | isn't there a gizmo for mounting iso images? |
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| 00:23.15 | simonrvn | leOn: hmm |
| 00:23.19 | leOn | and a lot of references to a lot of distros |
| 00:23.53 | GAP | The_Vulture: Where is the CD writing HOWTO ? |
| 00:23.54 | eduard13 | # screen |
| 00:23.57 | eduard13 | command not found |
| 00:23.58 | eduard13 | ??? |
| 00:24.00 | leOn | question is if one can disable that "distro" feature |
| 00:24.08 | simonrvn | install it already, and read man screen |
| 00:24.09 | leOn | eduard13: apt-get install screen ? |
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| 00:24.16 | thomas_adam | eduard13: 1) Don't run that as root, 2) INSTALL it. |
| 00:24.28 | The_Vulture | GAP: everywhere, google would find it faster than I could |
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| 00:24.57 | leOn | GAP: "man mount" |
| 00:24.59 | The_Vulture | GAP: you could look on tldp.org - it's there, but google is faster |
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| 00:25.14 | leOn | specially that part that covers iso9660 fs |
| 00:25.32 | GAP | ok.. |
| 00:25.42 | gratuit | I've got a ton of photos I want to put on the web but they are all too big a filesize. What's a good program that will change all the sizes of every photo in a directory, or one that I could use in a script? |
| 00:26.02 | leOn | gratuit: http://freshmeat.net |
| 00:26.18 | leOn | search for thumbnail, autoindex, etc |
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| 00:27.20 | eduard13 | Thanks for the command leOn. Backup sailing smoothly. |
| 00:27.44 | elshiftos | whats the default location to install the kernel files? |
| 00:28.41 | simonrvn | what "kernel files"? |
| 00:28.44 | jbr | elshiftos: do you mean tarball, unpacked source or compiled kernel? |
| 00:29.02 | Doc_Spiff | I'am trying to configure my sound card.. But it has been hell. Can someone please guide me to install a VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50) |
| 00:29.06 | Doc_Spiff | ??? |
| 00:29.40 | guestish | !tell doc_spiff about alsa |
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| 00:30.14 | simonrvn | ??? doesn't make your question more urgent, it makes it annoying |
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| 00:30.42 | leOn | Doc_Spiff: "man modprobe" ... try the via82cxxx_audio module |
| 00:30.54 | zinx | the ALSA driver works better |
| 00:31.02 | zinx | though admittedly, it still sucks :P |
| 00:31.14 | zinx | <- has a VT8235 |
| 00:31.16 | guestish | via sucks |
| 00:31.17 | elshiftos | sorry, I meant the kernel source files |
| 00:31.23 | guestish | =P |
| 00:31.27 | guestish | elshiftos, /usr/src |
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| 00:31.39 | elshiftos | thanks |
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| 00:31.52 | guestish | np |
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| 00:32.19 | elshiftos | I learn....ewentually |
| 00:32.39 | guestish | creative cards rule! :) |
| 00:33.02 | clusty | through which envirooment variable do I tell a program where the shared libs are? (LD_LIB? or smthg like that)? |
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| 00:33.47 | medgno | has anyone else been having problems with the system bell not sounding at all under 2.6.5? |
| 00:33.57 | guestish | !tell medgno about pcspkr |
| 00:34.14 | guestish | medgno, under 2.6.5 there is an external module called pcspkr you have to modprobe |
| 00:34.20 | guestish | medgno, dont ask me why |
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| 00:34.34 | sin-bad | hi, is there a way to install an .rpm under debian? |
| 00:34.41 | guestish | !tell sin-bad about alien |
| 00:34.43 | simonrvn | alien |
| 00:34.53 | Infohawk | Why does debian use inetd instead of xinetd by default? |
| 00:34.55 | medgno | thank you, i shall go try that |
| 00:35.02 | simonrvn | because |
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| 00:36.20 | cafuego | If I can get a Radeon9600SE, should I get it? |
| 00:36.27 | guestish | for how much? |
| 00:36.37 | cafuego | AU$155 |
| 00:36.42 | cafuego | (new) |
| 00:36.48 | guestish | whats that in US? |
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| 00:36.57 | cafuego | No idea |
| 00:37.07 | guestish | heh |
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| 00:37.12 | cafuego | dpkg, 155 * 0.72 |
| 00:37.13 | dpkg | 111.6 |
| 00:37.30 | guestish | well thats what it sells for retail |
| 00:37.36 | guestish | http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/masterid=1255093/search=Radeon%25209600se |
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| 00:37.42 | thomas_adam | dpkg, who do you love? |
| 00:37.48 | dpkg | bugger all, i dunno, thomas_adam |
| 00:37.56 | cafuego | yeah, it would require the grglx driver wouldn't it? |
| 00:37.59 | guestish | !love thomas_adam |
| 00:38.00 | cafuego | frglx |
| 00:38.08 | thomas_adam | guestish: :) |
| 00:38.11 | leOn | ahahah |
| 00:38.13 | guestish | thomas_adam: that answer your question? :) |
| 00:38.14 | cafuego | or fglx of whatever ATI call it |
| 00:38.15 | leOn | solved it |
| 00:38.15 | sin-bad | guestish: thanks for the tip. :) |
| 00:38.41 | thomas_adam | :) |
| 00:38.50 | leOn | simonrvn: found a post in a ml ... |
| 00:38.52 | guestish | sin-bad: np, just most rpms dont conform to debian standards, thats the only problem |
| 00:38.58 | cafuego | Or alternatively, there's a 9200SE for US$60 |
| 00:38.59 | simonrvn | leOn: cool. lemme know |
| 00:39.18 | guestish | cafuego: high shipping charges if you live in AU ;) |
| 00:39.19 | leOn | simonrvn: apparently, gnome-panel checks for several files, /etc/debian_version is one of them |
| 00:39.20 | jcurry | I downloaded the beta installer iso, and burned it, but my comp can't boot from it...how do I use the boot or rescue floppy to install from the cd? is this possible? |
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| 00:39.35 | cafuego | guestish: Buying from .au, so that's fine |
| 00:39.42 | guestish | cafuego: o |
| 00:39.50 | cafuego | guestish: Just putting together a system for my wife |
| 00:40.00 | guestish | ah. cool |
| 00:40.02 | leOn | simonrvn: if it exists, then it's a debian system ... so either remove the file (which doesn't seem a good idea to me) |
| 00:40.08 | guestish | is she a big gamer or graphics person? |
| 00:40.16 | cafuego | Graphics yes, gamer no. |
| 00:40.28 | cafuego | Unless it's Galaga, in which case she goes mental. |
| 00:40.34 | guestish | lol |
| 00:40.58 | leOn | or do like the guy in the post sugests ... edit the gnome-panel binary, search for "/etc/debian_version" and replace it with "/etc/debian_xxxxxxx" |
| 00:41.01 | elephantman | How can i force a package reinstallation ? |
| 00:41.03 | elephantman | apt is buggy, every dist-upgrade put the mess in my packages |
| 00:41.06 | apt | elephantman: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
| 00:41.06 | elephantman | and i am on testing, so i guess it shouldnt |
| 00:41.06 | leOn | ahah =) |
| 00:41.07 | elephantman | What does this mean trying to mount win2k share partition on debian : 4612: tree connect failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.) |
| 00:41.10 | elephantman | How to remove all file that have "2003" in their creation date ? |
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| 00:41.31 | leOn | it's a pretty ugly hack ... but it workd |
| 00:41.33 | leOn | it's a pretty ugly hack ... but it works |
| 00:41.34 | guestish | cafuego: *shrugs* |
| 00:41.34 | leOn | =) |
| 00:41.44 | guestish | cafuego: 'd use some sort of price comparison before buying a card |
| 00:41.47 | guestish | i'd* |
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| 00:42.14 | cafuego | guestish: Well, I'm mainly interested in one that wouldn't require a closed source driver |
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| 00:42.32 | cafuego | guestish: The the 9600 works fine (2D and 3D) with xfree, I'm happy... otheriwse I'll go the 9200. |
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| 00:42.46 | meff | anyone good with apache on debian? i moved where public_html is read from and now suexec doesn't work; do i need to recompile apache or is there a way i can point suexec to it? |
| 00:43.01 | guestish | sounds good |
| 00:43.16 | fusQuanto | anyone here use galeon? is it just me or do links you paste to other people not work for them? |
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| 00:43.35 | cafuego | guestish: Hecen there's no way in hell I'm getting an nvidia card |
| 00:43.38 | medgno | fusQuanto: do the links look like the normal form? |
| 00:43.57 | guestish | cafuego: i thought the nvidia dirvers worked fine for 2D |
| 00:44.03 | CBFarkt | I did an "apt-get remove sendmail" and it stopped apache server. Is this something that usually happens? |
| 00:44.03 | fusQuanto | medgno: i guess so |
| 00:44.33 | medgno | fusQuanto: okay, i'm apt-getting galeon right now to try it out |
| 00:44.45 | fusQuanto | medgno: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=15048&item=3094754841&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW |
| 00:44.46 | cafuego | guestish: 'nv' has under-par 2d performance, compared to my Matrox card. just not using them. |
| 00:44.51 | fusQuanto | medgno: that doesnt work for anyone... |
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| 00:45.15 | cafuego | RadioShack CALLER ID ALARM CLOCK Wireless Thermometer |
| 00:45.31 | Infohawk | I'm trying to stop inetd from loading on bootup. When I do sudo update-rc.d inetd remove, I get update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/inetd exists during rc.d purge (use -f to force. Should I be doing this another way? |
| 00:45.38 | cafuego | fusQuanto: Seems to be working fine. |
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| 00:45.43 | fusQuanto | cafuego: what browser do you have? |
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| 00:46.54 | cafuego | fusQuanto: firefox |
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| 00:47.16 | cafuego | fusQuanto: Works fine in Konqueror too. |
| 00:47.22 | lostrealm | can anyone assist in routing of a subnet via a pppoe adsl connection ? |
| 00:47.35 | cafuego | lostrealm: Does your IP know you have that subnet? |
| 00:47.40 | cafuego | s/IP/ISP/ |
| 00:47.43 | lostrealm | yes, they assigned it |
| 00:47.46 | fusQuanto | cafuego: ok my friend copy pasted it instead of clicking on it from his winaim from my gaim... maybe that has soemthign to do with it, it worked |
| 00:48.15 | cafuego | fusQuanto: windows, yeah, pfffffffrt |
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| 00:48.35 | hanasaki | anyone have recommendations for a web based catalog program that can do billing to paypal and CC also? |
| 00:48.36 | cafuego | lostrealm: If the IP assigned to your end of the pppoe link in the subnet in question? |
| 00:48.53 | medgno | fusQuanto: were there any puntuation marks around it? like this -http://debian.org |
| 00:48.56 | cafuego | hanasaki: I find oscommerce to be quite well featured. |
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| 00:49.24 | cafuego | Ok, au $1132 or AU$1214 |
| 00:49.29 | lostrealm | pppoe assigns a static ip on connection then I have a subnet of 8 more |
| 00:49.31 | fusQuanto | medgno: well theres &'s and ='s |
| 00:49.33 | hanasaki | cafuego: i looked at that.. i know very little about php .. php says dont use globals.. and oscommerce needs them |
| 00:49.45 | lostrealm | I wonder weather another nic card is easiest way to go ? |
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| 00:50.09 | guestish | not bad for a comp |
| 00:50.18 | cafuego | lostrealm: Ok, you have forwarding enabled on the router? |
| 00:50.19 | Deep7 | anyone care to help me get lm-sensors working? I've got the right module selected (via686a) but I don't know what to do there after |
| 00:50.21 | bahadunn | g4lt: im back up and running |
| 00:50.46 | bahadunn | g4lt: I totally reformatted this time. So now I guess I just have to wait and see if things bork again |
| 00:50.48 | lostrealm | linux box is the router, and it does forward |
| 00:50.48 | cafuego | guestish: Athlon64 box with 1 Gb ram - should do her :-) |
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| 00:51.06 | guestish | cafuego: :) |
| 00:51.13 | cafuego | lostrealm: *nod* Then all you need to do is assign one of the sunet IPs to the other nic in that box. |
| 00:51.15 | hanasaki | cafuego: is there really anyting to worry about w/ those globals? |
| 00:51.15 | guestish | thats a fast box |
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| 00:51.36 | cafuego | guestish: She deserves one, she's been running Linux on a 350MHz PPC box for the past few months. |
| 00:51.46 | lostrealm | ok, thanks, i figured another nic card was the way to go but wasn't 100% sure |
| 00:52.18 | cafuego | hanasaki: Not if the software was written properly; you enable them *only* for the virtual server that runs oscommerce, not the rest. |
| 00:52.35 | hanasaki | oh ok |
| 00:52.35 | hanasaki | thanks |
| 00:52.39 | cafuego | guestish: it actually runs quite well, it's just that OO.org is a bit slow |
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| 00:52.43 | hanasaki | i have the current 2.2 from their site.. |
| 00:52.49 | guestish | cafuego: really? |
| 00:52.51 | cafuego | guestish: Apart from that, it's absolutely fine. |
| 00:52.55 | hanasaki | now off i go to learn enough php and mysql to install it |
| 00:52.56 | hanasaki | thanks man |
| 00:52.56 | guestish | cafuego: huh...nice |
| 00:53.03 | guestish | cafuego: OO.org is slow on my 866 too |
| 00:53.08 | guestish | cafuego: at least to load |
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| 00:53.46 | cafuego | guestish: it's pretty much instantaneous on my desktop box (2GHz Athlon) |
| 00:53.49 | medgno | anyone know if there's a way to change the volume of the system bell? |
| 00:53.53 | cafuego | hanasaki: np. |
| 00:54.18 | cafuego | guestish: Have an insanely fast hdd helps there, though. |
| 00:54.25 | guestish | cafuego: sata? |
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| 00:54.36 | guestish | cafuego: or is it a scsi drive? |
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| 00:55.19 | jbr | medgno: apparently: "man xset" |
| 00:55.59 | medgno | even under the local terminals (ctrl+alt+f1) things? |
| 00:56.28 | opp | how do i mount another hdd?? |
| 00:56.42 | thomas_adam | opp: mount |
| 00:56.51 | thomas_adam | opp: mount /dev/device /mnt_point |
| 00:56.52 | jbr | medgno: try it and see (I can't, this machine's bellless!) |
| 00:57.07 | medgno | i tried, and it still was barely audible |
| 00:57.20 | opp | i want to access my hdc hdd |
| 00:57.24 | medgno | i could only hear it with my ear against the case |
| 00:57.34 | opp | im using hda1 for linux, hda2 for linux swap |
| 00:57.38 | thomas_adam | opp: RTFM, "man mount" |
| 00:57.39 | medgno | opp: is it formatted? |
| 00:57.46 | opp | can u teach me what exactly to key in?? |
| 00:57.53 | thomas_adam | opp: no, RTFM |
| 00:57.54 | medgno | opp: PM me, and I can |
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| 01:00.39 | seberino | newbie parsing question--> what's the difference between left associativy and right associativity in regards to a unary operator like "unary minus"...e.g. in -5, -x, ?? |
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| 01:02.30 | jbr | seberino: try this: http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/54342.html |
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| 01:04.08 | seberino | jbr: thanks, i read it |
| 01:04.42 | meff | what was the command to get source for a package and what it depends on? |
| 01:04.57 | thomas_adam | apt-cache showpkg foo |
| 01:05.05 | guestish | apt-get source foo, apt-get depends foo |
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| 01:05.33 | seberino | jbr: --5 = -(-5), i don't see how they could be different, your example had '=' with right associativity but i don't see how it would matter for '=' either |
| 01:05.44 | thomas_adam | I couldn't have read that any more wrongly, could I? :) |
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| 01:06.06 | jbr | seberino: my example? (is this really a debian question?) |
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| 01:06.56 | seberino | jbr: i mean on that web page your referred me to |
| 01:06.58 | jbr | jbr: that was google "feeling lucky", but its other hits were good too |
| 01:07.03 | Master | any bonzai user |
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| 01:07.10 | g4lt | seberino right associativity is grounded in Latin writing. 5- makes little or no sense |
| 01:07.13 | lokus | sup fellas |
| 01:07.17 | shawty | this is gonne b a dumb newbie question but wanting to install debain on my machine is a AMD 2.6 im downloading from a mirror which file do i slect is it i386 ?? |
| 01:07.22 | lokus | yo i tried to install open office |
| 01:07.25 | lokus | do i need java for that? |
| 01:07.30 | thomas_adam | shawty: yes. |
| 01:07.42 | Master | anyone using bonzai? |
| 01:07.45 | shawty | :D cheers |
| 01:07.50 | lokus | cause its not showing up on my Menus |
| 01:08.16 | g4lt | lokus try update-menus |
| 01:09.04 | lokus | nah its not showing up anywher |
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| 01:09.11 | lokus | i did apt-get install openoffice.org |
| 01:09.28 | thomas_adam | lokus: update-menus ? |
| 01:09.34 | lokus | yup |
| 01:09.42 | lokus | i went to CLI and did update-menus |
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| 01:10.20 | thomas_adam | lokus: Check the BTS, see if the menus-hook file has changed, or been elided. |
| 01:10.37 | noodle | hey, how do i get the ctrl-alt-delete thing in debian - like to kill proccesses? |
| 01:10.45 | seberino | g4lt: i think left/right assoc. refers to which minus operator in --5 is evaluated first. but i could be wrong |
| 01:10.56 | lokus | whats the BTS |
| 01:10.57 | lokus | heh |
| 01:11.00 | thomas_adam | noodle: see /etc/inittab |
| 01:11.02 | guestish | !+bts |
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| 01:11.03 | dpkg | methinks bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or anyone running unstable who's unable to check the BTS should be shot on sight. apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. sid users, apt-get install apt-listbugs |
| 01:11.37 | lokus | yo thomas |
| 01:11.49 | lokus | what is the cmd to change where u fetch things from |
| 01:11.50 | thomas_adam | lokus: Hello. |
| 01:11.51 | lokus | using the apt cmd |
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| 01:11.54 | noodle | hey, how do i get the ctrl-alt-delete thing in debian - like to kill proccesses? |
| 01:12.01 | lokus | u know like the ftps u can choose from |
| 01:12.02 | thomas_adam | apt-get -t <flavour> install foo ? |
| 01:12.05 | thomas_adam | oooh. |
| 01:12.07 | guestish | !tell noodle about kill |
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| 01:12.11 | thomas_adam | /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 01:12.15 | lokus | ok |
| 01:12.18 | dapatrick | dpkg: thx |
| 01:12.18 | dpkg | np |
| 01:12.19 | leOn | lokus: apt-setup |
| 01:12.28 | shawty | which flavor is best to use ?? |
| 01:12.31 | guestish | lol, dpkg doesnt have kill factoid |
| 01:12.34 | thomas_adam | shawty: Chocolate. |
| 01:12.38 | guestish | noodle: kill |
| 01:12.40 | WALoeIII | hey use netselect-apt |
| 01:12.44 | WALoeIII | apt-get install netselect-apt |
| 01:12.48 | noodle | what do you mean |
| 01:12.48 | g4lt | shawty butterscotch |
| 01:12.50 | WALoeIII | and then cd /etc/apt |
| 01:12.58 | WALoeIII | and run netselect-apt it'll find the fastest mirrors for you |
| 01:12.58 | noodle | what buttons do i have to press |
| 01:13.03 | noodle | in the gdk |
| 01:13.04 | WALoeIII | for free and main etc |
| 01:13.12 | KMat | noodle: in KDE you can do Ctrl+Alt+Del |
| 01:13.12 | noodle | or X |
| 01:13.22 | noodle | nah, im not running kde |
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| 01:13.24 | guestish | noodle: console thing |
| 01:13.29 | noodle | im running gnome |
| 01:13.40 | guestish | noodle: use the console, its good for the soul |
| 01:13.43 | WALoeIII | ctrl+c if app crashes on commandline will return you to command line |
| 01:13.45 | KMat | then you can always run xkill and click the window I guess :) |
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| 01:14.05 | noodle | erg |
| 01:14.51 | MrRoo | does anyone know how to set the open-files(permanently, not ulimit -n) in debian 3.2 prerelease. something like "echo "* soft nofile 65535" >> /etc/security/limits.conf" works in 3.0 and rh but not on 3.2.x |
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| 01:15.59 | jbr | pdi: what is "debian 3.2 prerelease"? do you mean testing=sarge? |
| 01:16.06 | pdi | yeah |
| 01:16.21 | pdi | oops sorry |
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| 01:16.30 | pdi | 3.2.2 20030131 (Debian prerelease)) <- I was looking at the gcc version ;) |
| 01:16.51 | jbr | pdi: a PAM thing, maybe? |
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| 01:17.01 | guestish | ipv6, fancy |
| 01:17.18 | pdi | maybe, in all other versions I've done "echo "session required /lib/security/pam_limits.so" >> /etc/pam.d/login", but that won't seem to work in this version. |
| 01:17.21 | g4lt | pdi when asked what your Debian version, /etc/debian_version may have some idea, surprisingly ;P |
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| 01:17.56 | flugh | hehe, when he thought i was showing off the website, little did he know i was merely logging his ip address |
| 01:17.58 | shinguz | speaking of ipv6, is it hard to implement if the isp still uses the previous version? |
| 01:18.04 | pdi | yeah I had done that but was looking at the 3.2.2 in uname |
| 01:18.13 | g4lt | pdi that's because they reshuffled /etc/pam.d you're probably putting the limits in a nonparsed file |
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| 01:18.30 | pdi | oh lemme look then |
| 01:18.54 | g4lt | shinguz not really, look at freenet6 |
| 01:19.09 | shinguz | will happen... thanks |
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| 01:19.11 | Wuffi600 | hi. |
| 01:19.15 | Wuffi600 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:20.24 | guestish | theres only a problem when you have an unsupported router |
| 01:20.27 | guestish | like i do =\ |
| 01:21.12 | shinguz | smc7404wbra? |
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| 01:22.41 | leOn | guestish: just use a linux box for router |
| 01:22.42 | leOn | =) |
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| 01:23.06 | carrett | leOn: how does one use a linux box for a router? |
| 01:23.26 | guestish | leOn: ok, you give me the box, and ill be more than happy to use it |
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| 01:23.49 | guestish | leOn: also give me the ethernet card with the ports, which aint cheap |
| 01:24.02 | leOn | guestish: my router is a Pentium 100 with 148MB of ram |
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| 01:24.28 | leOn | i hear that realtek 8139 based eth cards are pretty cheap |
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| 01:24.36 | guestish | leOn: im too cheap to go and buy a new comp and ethernet card when i have a perfectly good ipv4 router right now |
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| 01:26.16 | leOn | carrett: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/index.html |
| 01:26.20 | leOn | for instance |
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| 01:28.44 | corr | you know, i love being 98% done with a download and having my kernel oops |
| 01:28.59 | guestish | really? i wouldnt |
| 01:29.03 | corr | it's such a wonderful feeling |
| 01:29.24 | corr | oh, i absolutely love it. debian is so great. |
| 01:29.47 | zinx | because it's obviously debian's fault that your kernel oopsed |
| 01:29.47 | corr | of course it's going to be much greater when i take it over. |
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| 01:30.01 | guestish | take what over? |
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| 01:30.15 | corr | zinx: why would you say something uninformed like that? |
| 01:30.20 | silas | OK, so my current project is FAI for the apartment, with cfengine |
| 01:30.31 | corr | guestish: the debian gnu/linux project. |
| 01:30.41 | silas | What would be the best way to get cfengine 2.0.6 on debian stable? I've got mixed ppc/x86 boxes. |
| 01:30.45 | zinx | corr: because that's what it appeared you were implying :) |
| 01:30.46 | guestish | corr: who says you're heading debian? |
| 01:30.47 | jbr | corr: are you expecting help? |
| 01:31.17 | corr | zinx: no sir, you were mistaken. |
| 01:31.25 | zinx | corr: and for what it's worth, it still appears that's what you're implying. even if you say i'm mistaken :P |
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| 01:31.46 | jlefler | I believe I am seeing USB related error messages that flash by very quickly at boot - is the text outputted to console during boot dumped to a file? |
| 01:31.48 | corr | jbr, guestish: only time will reveal my plan. change is upon us, my friends. |
| 01:31.49 | leOn | guestish: i believe you can have ipv6 tunneling behind a NAT ... |
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| 01:32.15 | es | hello I'm trying to install apache2 on woody from backports.org. I was unable to add it to my source btw it needs libexpat1 and issuing "apt-get install libexpat1" I have: apache2-common: Depends: libdb4.2 but it is not installable; Depends: mime-support but it is not going to be installed; Depends: openssl but it is not going to be installed; Depends: ssl-cert (>= 1.0-7) but it is not installable; Depends: libmagic1 but it is not installa |
| 01:32.15 | es | ble; libapr0: Depends: libdb4.2 but it is not installable; |
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| 01:32.21 | guestish | leOn: not if the router doesnt support ivp6 afaik |
| 01:32.22 | es | what should I do? |
| 01:32.43 | guestish | corr: who are you corr? |
| 01:33.00 | hat | hello, who knows IGMP protocol? |
| 01:33.21 | leOn | guestish: that doesn't make much sense ... NAT is for ipv4 afaik ... so, the router is ipv4 |
| 01:33.33 | guestish | ? |
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| 01:33.46 | corr | i am a boy. |
| 01:33.58 | guestish | network adress translation is a protocol, it can be used with ipv4 or ipv6... |
| 01:34.06 | guestish | no reason why it cant |
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| 01:34.40 | g4lt | guestish uhmmmm.... no. there are no non-routable blocks of v6 space |
| 01:34.47 | guestish | leOn: all i know is that i have the ipv6 tunneling modules, and they wont work for me because of my router's of support |
| 01:35.06 | corr | g4lt, i figured out how to install the kernel on my own :) but then, when attempting to install my modem driver, it did not like it. so i am downloading kernel-source-2.6.5 and nvidia-kernel-source and i am following a howto on how to make debs out of those using make-kpkg... :) |
| 01:35.11 | guestish | g4lt: whatever |
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| 01:35.27 | guestish | corr: whats this have to do with you taking over debian? |
| 01:35.32 | leOn | guestish: with whom have you tried setting it up with ... ? |
| 01:35.42 | guestish | leOn: what do you mean with whom? |
| 01:35.51 | leOn | which entity |
| 01:35.59 | guestish | ... |
| 01:36.00 | leOn | tunnel broker |
| 01:36.10 | guestish | both my isp and.. |
| 01:36.14 | guestish | um...whats it named... |
| 01:36.21 | guestish | free something 6 |
| 01:36.26 | corr | guestish: you will see ;) |
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| 01:36.38 | jbr | corr: no, we'll be /ignoring you |
| 01:36.40 | leOn | your isp? ... you need your isp for anything ? |
| 01:36.52 | guestish | leOn: well yeah, internet acces |
| 01:36.56 | guestish | leOn: access |
| 01:37.05 | Invisible_Optiks | How do I make sure that after I apt-get remove a package and then resinstall it, that it does in fact reconfigure for the install? I am having problems making my PHP talke to mySQL talk to Apache, so I'd really like to just uninstall them all. Make sure they don't use any existing configurations and then apt-get install them again. The apt-get install of php4 perfectly configured itself with apache, so I'm thinking about installing apache ag |
| 01:37.07 | guestish | leOn: they host a ipv6 tunnel as part of their service |
| 01:37.12 | zinx | g4lt: what do you mean no non-routable blocks? |
| 01:37.28 | leOn | guestish: visit sixxs.net |
| 01:37.30 | zinx | g4lt: in the common meaning of "non-routable", there are a _whole lot_ of non-routable ones |
| 01:37.30 | corr | jbr: i don't mind, if you find me abrasive enough to warrant an ignore than i would certainly want you to - we wouldn't want any conflicts between us, now would we? |
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| 01:37.38 | g4lt | zinx no 192.168/16 for example |
| 01:37.40 | zinx | g4lt: in fact, there are fewer routable ones than non-routable |
| 01:37.53 | guestish | leOn: the tunnel doesnt matter, i got that working, but my router wont let me access the internet through ipv6 |
| 01:37.54 | zinx | g4lt: no, there's plenty of those |
| 01:37.57 | leOn | guestish: my isp only gives ipv4 connectivity and i have ipv6 |
| 01:37.58 | hat | Hello, what are the main funcitons of IGMP(Internet Group Management Protocol) protocol? |
| 01:38.03 | guestish | leOn: *sigh* |
| 01:38.09 | g4lt | zinx okay, RESERVED non-routeable |
| 01:38.09 | guestish | leOn: you dont understand |
| 01:38.34 | cafuego | leOn: guestish's ISP offers ipv6 *directly* without a local tunnel. |
| 01:38.41 | zinx | g4lt: ::1/128 is localhost, fec0:: and fe80:: are automatically generated site/link local blocks (respectively) |
| 01:38.43 | leOn | guestish: if you establish the tunnel with an inside machine, the router only sees ipv4 |
| 01:38.54 | zinx | g4lt: and there are a ton more RESERVED non-routable addresses |
| 01:38.54 | guestish | cafuego: i guess |
| 01:38.56 | leOn | cafuego: i understand that |
| 01:39.05 | g4lt | zinx and if you have any clue about 6 and subscribe to the view that NAT in v6 is possible, you're a sad, sad person |
| 01:39.06 | maher | Invisible_Optiks: --purge ing them will remove the configs |
| 01:39.13 | zinx | g4lt: fec0:: and fe80:: are _HUGE_ blocks |
| 01:39.16 | guestish | leOn: fine, and how do i establish a tunnel internally? set up my own broker? |
| 01:39.36 | cafuego | guestish: So what you need is a either router that supports ipv6 (cisco) or set up a tunnel. http://ipv6.he.net/ |
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| 01:39.44 | zinx | g4lt: oh, NAT in ipv6 is absolutely ridiculous, but it's easily possible too |
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| 01:39.55 | guestish | cafuego: i know, and thats why i cant use ipv6 as i've been trying to explain |
| 01:40.03 | zinx | g4lt: anyone who implements it is a dumbass, but it is possible :P |
| 01:40.20 | zinx | g4lt: my point was the existence of non-routable blocks of addresses though :/ |
| 01:40.27 | corr | zinx: why? i don't know much about ipv6, so forgive my ignorance |
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| 01:40.35 | corr | hell, i don't know much about ipv4. |
| 01:40.42 | guestish | cafuego: i set up a tunnel with freenet6, and it didnt work for some reason |
| 01:40.46 | guestish | cafuego: i couldnt access the net |
| 01:40.58 | zinx | corr: we can tell. |
| 01:41.08 | guestish | cafuego: i called up my isp and they said it was my router, so i just left it at that |
| 01:41.28 | corr | zinx: you know, you can answer my question, or you can't. there's no need to insult me. |
| 01:41.47 | zinx | corr: that wasn't an insult |
| 01:41.47 | corr | and you can't tell half as much as you /think/ you can, my friend. |
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| 01:42.17 | g4lt | corr of course there's no need, it's just an added bonus, because #debian is always willing ot go the extra mile in that regard |
| 01:42.30 | zinx | corr: do you think i would be insulted if someone told me they can tell i don't understand chinese? i wouldn't. |
| 01:42.44 | cafuego | guestish: That makes sense ofl;y if the router eats the encapsulated ipv6 packets, whoch would be extremely bad. |
| 01:43.06 | guestish | cafuego: beats me if it does that or not |
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| 01:43.15 | corr | i see your point. |
| 01:43.19 | guestish | cafuego: i havent tried my isp's tunnel, im thinking i might try that |
| 01:43.28 | zinx | cafuego: almost all consumer (and corporate even) grade routers eat tunneled ipv6 packets, at least using the most common tunneling schemes |
| 01:43.46 | g4lt | cafuego uhm, extremely bad isn't the word "fucked up as a football bat" gets closer |
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| 01:44.20 | guestish | cafuego: do you think if they host the tunnel that it will make any difference? |
| 01:44.28 | zinx | cafuego: they use a new protocol number :P |
| 01:44.39 | corr | at the rate i'm going, i'm never going to take over the Debian GNU/Linux project |
| 01:44.48 | zinx | cafuego: or at least i think the tunneled packets do, too.. i do know they get eaten, in any case |
| 01:44.53 | g4lt | corr really? |
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| 01:45.01 | cafuego | guestish: I doubt it, but you can try anwyay |
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| 01:45.10 | zinx | cafuego: microsoft made some ipv6 in udp thing, but i don't think anyone uses it |
| 01:45.14 | corr | i need a change of plans, quick |
| 01:45.23 | cafuego | zinx: Whatever happened to "if you don't know what it is, don't touch it!" ? |
| 01:45.29 | leOn | guestish: the problem seems to be the router, so ... tunneling there or anywhere else seems to be the same ... i think... |
| 01:45.42 | cafuego | Actually, can any of you access www.v6.vitta.org.au ? |
| 01:45.44 | guestish | cafuego: meh, looks no different, it would just be faster |
| 01:45.57 | JEisen83_ | I'm trying to install the netinst on a drive that already has WinME on it... it's for someone who wants to gradually switch. One harddrive, one 40gig partition... is there any way to resize the drive in the installation to get this to work? |
| 01:46.03 | guestish | nope |
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| 01:46.25 | cafuego | guestish: if you have no ipv6 you can't no. |
| 01:46.30 | zinx | cafuego: i'll tell you in a moment.. |
| 01:46.31 | guestish | cafuego: heh |
| 01:46.36 | zinx | yeah |
| 01:46.39 | sanmarcos | can you guys see these characters? ñ á é à ó ú ç ? |
| 01:46.49 | leOn | cafe: i don't have a browser in my router, which is the only machine with ipv6 ... no enough credits for a zone yet |
| 01:46.50 | jbr | sanmarcos: see, yes; read, no |
| 01:46.50 | guestish | so i can use a linux comp to route, i can get a cisco router, or i can just not care : |
| 01:46.52 | guestish | :) |
| 01:46.52 | leOn | =) |
| 01:46.59 | Guerin | sanmarcos: i see 7 |
| 01:47.01 | leOn | cafeu: i don't have a browser in my router, which is the only machine with ipv6 ... no enough credits for a zone yet |
| 01:47.04 | leOn | argh |
| 01:47.04 | zinx | cafuego: one of yours? |
| 01:47.05 | leOn | =P |
| 01:47.12 | sanmarcos | Guerin: ok |
| 01:47.29 | Guerin | cafuego: but I can't see your site |
| 01:47.36 | zinx | cafuego: hehe, nice html comments |
| 01:47.37 | cafuego | zinx: yeah, the old PPC 603 box with apache2 ;-) |
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| 01:47.53 | cafuego | zinx: they are? *checks* |
| 01:47.55 | leOn | hmm |
| 01:47.55 | mick_laptop | hi guys, how can i list what ide devices i have a crashed ntfs file system on my second hdd? I want to mount it... mount -t ntfs /dev/^^^^ /mnt but I first need to find out which hdd it is |
| 01:48.00 | leOn | cafuego: can'r ping it though |
| 01:48.12 | maher | mick_laptop: fdisk -l /dev/hdb |
| 01:48.15 | leOn | opps |
| 01:48.15 | g4lt | mick_laptop cat /proc/partitions |
| 01:48.23 | cafuego | leOn: good |
| 01:48.28 | mick_laptop | thats |
| 01:48.31 | leOn | yes i can ... but with HUGE latency |
| 01:48.31 | leOn | =) |
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| 01:48.34 | mick_laptop | thanks* |
| 01:48.39 | zinx | i can ping it |
| 01:48.43 | mick_laptop | christ my typing sucks today |
| 01:48.45 | cafuego | leOn: yeah, it's a non-local ipv6 tunnel |
| 01:48.46 | zinx | lags a bit for the first few pings |
| 01:48.47 | leOn | rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 496.263/3330.752/5432.480/1802.564 ms, pipe 6 |
| 01:48.54 | zinx | probably my tunnel :x |
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| 01:49.03 | cafuego | The same one I use for irc (current lag: 6sec) |
| 01:49.04 | zinx | rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 537.020/1357.795/4956.382/1116.050 ms, pipe 5 |
| 01:49.27 | cafuego | Which reminds me, it would probably be a good idea to add some ip6tables rules to that box :-) |
| 01:49.30 | zinx | [pingreply(zinx)(PING)] 0.129370 seconds |
| 01:49.46 | Invisible_Optiks | If I install apache and mySQL and php4 from source rather than from apt-get, well I'm new to apt-get so will apt-get not being able to upgrade them in the future, etc, has anyone here installed php, mySQL and Apache with apt-get and got them working? |
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| 01:49.59 | pdi | thank for all your help. l8 |
| 01:50.00 | cafuego | Invisible_Optiks: yes. |
| 01:50.00 | zinx | i only have identd open for ipv6 at the moment, so i'm not too concerned about firewalling it |
| 01:50.00 | akk | Any font experts? I'm trying to add some downloaded truetype fonts to a sid system that uses xfs and defoma. |
| 01:50.17 | akk | "Stop using xfs" or "stop using defoma" is an acceptable answer, if that's the best way. |
| 01:50.22 | cafuego | There's no ipv6 nmap, is there? |
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| 01:50.36 | cafuego | akk: stop using xfs |
| 01:50.37 | zinx | cafuego: nmap probably supports ipv6 |
| 01:50.39 | Invisible_Optiks | cafuego: You used apt-get and got them working or, which question did you say yes to ^_^ |
| 01:50.48 | zinx | cafuego: at least for the standard 'connect()' scanning |
| 01:51.05 | akk | cafuego: Okay, maybe I'll do that. Thanks. |
| 01:51.08 | Covener | akk: unless you have some compelling need for either, I'd drop them |
| 01:51.09 | g4lt | zinx s/probably// |
| 01:51.24 | akk | Covener: I have no need (afaik) for either. I certainly don't use networked fonts. |
| 01:51.29 | g4lt | zinx Fyodor promised v6 support almost a year ago |
| 01:51.32 | zinx | ah :) |
| 01:51.49 | zinx | apparently there's one with more 'advanced' scanning types too |
| 01:51.56 | corr | Fyodor, hah! |
| 01:52.02 | zinx | though not in the mainstream nmap |
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| 01:52.28 | g4lt | zinx I know, I have the copy. The one that does RPC scans? ;) |
| 01:52.31 | cafuego | crud, I have no ssl on that apach2 box |
| 01:53.32 | zinx | g4lt: dunno, nmap6.sf.net |
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| 01:54.29 | corr | g4lt, i've a question that doesn't seem to be answered explicitly by any of the documentation i can find - when i build a kernel-image package using make-kpkg, will it "upgrade" my current kernel-package or will i have to manually remove the old version |
| 01:55.03 | g4lt | corr you install the new one, keeping to old one installed just in case |
| 01:55.27 | corr | g4lt okay |
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| 01:56.52 | corr | i hope this works smoothly |
| 01:57.20 | corr | i also need to research that synaptic mouse "driver" to see if i can disable tapping on my touchpad |
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| 02:00.07 | leOn | hmmm |
| 02:00.09 | garung | hey people |
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| 02:00.10 | silas | I'm having a brain fart... What's the tool that will monitor the make install process and produce a deb or rpm package for you? |
| 02:00.20 | garung | anyone got problem with with konqueror? |
| 02:00.23 | garung | in sid |
| 02:00.27 | garung | Could not start process Can't talk klaunch, anyone knows how to fix it? |
| 02:00.31 | leOn | gonna run my first ipv6 fw script ... |
| 02:00.39 | silas | leOn: good luck |
| 02:00.40 | leOn | goodbye cruel world |
| 02:00.40 | leOn | =) |
| 02:00.56 | corr | silas: i had a tool called pkgtool2 which did that |
| 02:01.30 | corr | wait, i think that made slack tgz. nevermind. it MIGHT have made rpms/debs but i can't remember exactly |
| 02:01.31 | silas | corr: thanks |
| 02:01.44 | silas | corr: Yeah, I found it on google. it makes all three |
| 02:01.45 | corr | alien does it, i think. alien might just install. |
| 02:01.52 | corr | my memory is bad :) |
| 02:01.59 | corr | cool |
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| 02:02.16 | leOn | hello? |
| 02:02.16 | leOn | hehe ... got cutted back for a moment |
| 02:02.16 | leOn | =) |
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| 02:02.43 | corr | silas: although be forewarned, that tool is not perfect |
| 02:02.45 | leOn | is there any equivalent to ipt_state in ip6tables ? |
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| 02:03.05 | corr | silas: it relies on hijacking mv/del/cp operations. |
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| 02:05.06 | zivilynbane | Is ANYONE using optical out on their soundcard in debian SID? |
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| 02:05.11 | gilga | hello |
| 02:05.20 | Invisible_Optiks | Anyone gotten mySQL, Apache, and PHP4 to talk to eachother when installed from apt-get? |
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| 02:05.24 | gilga | litle bit of a problem |
| 02:05.43 | cafuego | Invisible_Optiks: yes |
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| 02:06.21 | gilga | started nvidia driver install and now want to not install at this point, but now the incomplete install makes a Calling GlxExtensionInit fatal error on running X |
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| 02:06.41 | gilga | how may I fix this? can I uninstall kinda thing? |
| 02:06.51 | Invisible_Optiks | cafuego: What did you do? I can get php and Apache to talk fine but when it comes to mySQL--not at all. Did you do anything special or was there a special order you used when you installed them or what? |
| 02:07.05 | lepton | Invisible_Optiks: yes |
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| 02:07.28 | FarrisG | What's the best and/or easiest way to browse shared drives on several local windows machines in gnome? |
| 02:07.37 | raphaelb | can someone reccomend how I might bind a different mouse button to the first one? (my main button is practically broken) |
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| 02:08.16 | FarrisG | Ideally I'd like to have several different drives smbmounted at startup, but there are lots of issues with that, namely that it's not at all dynamic |
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| 02:08.24 | gilga | fixed |
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| 02:11.07 | NewMandrakeUser | Hey people... is there a way to move a cvs directory (in the repository) from one part of the directory tree structure to another? I basically have 2 repositories, and want to move a directory from one repository to another. |
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| 02:11.07 | Supaplex | my intel eepro100 uses dhcp, and is assigned 192.168.0.9. what causes a nic that's configured as 192.168.0.9 (ifconfig confirms) to broadcast tcp traffic as if it were soemthing 67.166.70.168 (tcpdump)? |
| 02:11.11 | bob2 | NewMandrakeUser: that's amazingly nasty |
| 02:11.15 | bob2 | NewMandrakeUser: but ask in #cvs |
| 02:11.21 | akk | Anyone know whether sid's gtk2 is built with --with-xinput=yes ? It doesn't seem to be seeing a wacom (where gtk1 does). |
| 02:11.30 | NewMandrakeUser | bob2: I can't simply move the directory and make people do an update? |
| 02:11.38 | bob2 | Supaplex: is it in promiscuous mode? dmesg will show it or ifconfig. |
| 02:11.51 | bob2 | NewMandrakeUser: I dunno, I use revision control systems that actually support moving files ;-) |
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| 02:12.46 | Supaplex | nope, UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST |
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| 02:15.01 | Supaplex | also, the diagnostic (when the driver wasn't loaded) reported the card is in sleep mode, how can I disable that? |
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| 02:16.49 | Supaplex | akk you could grab the source and check control+rules in debian/ |
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| 02:19.46 | martman | hi. i just did a deb install on vmware and im trying to boot my new 2.6 kernel. i enable scsi support(since thats what vmware emulates) and i compiled in ext3 support(since thats my fs) but on boot i get a "Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unkown-block(8,1)" error everytime. my lilo.con sectiosn are almost identical, they both have the same options but only my 2.4 boots |
| 02:20.12 | leOn | cafuego: could you checkout which ports i have opened ? |
| 02:20.14 | esop | Supaplex: I have an eepro100 so was curious... if you google 'eepro100 sleep mode' there is quite a bit of stuff, also a utility avail at intel that turns that bit off or etc. |
| 02:20.27 | leOn | cafuego: in ipv6 of course |
| 02:20.28 | leOn | =) |
| 02:20.33 | Supaplex | esop ah cool. |
| 02:20.45 | Supaplex | looks likes it's time for dialup |
| 02:20.55 | vaportrail111 | noooo dial up bad |
| 02:21.06 | Supaplex | neccessary evil |
| 02:21.16 | vaportrail111 | what fo |
| 02:21.26 | Supaplex | fix the nic |
| 02:21.42 | vaportrail111 | whats the matter with ur nic |
| 02:21.51 | cafuego | leOn: Maybe, if you give me your ipv6 address |
| 02:22.06 | leOn | cafuego: i'm using it here |
| 02:22.12 | leOn | cl-20.lis-01.pt.sixxs.net |
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| 02:22.37 | Supaplex | vaportrail111: it's an intel, maybe the realtek was better :-o |
| 02:22.44 | cafuego | leOn: No ipv6 on nmap |
| 02:22.49 | lokus | does anyone run xchat on debian and connect to a bnc? |
| 02:22.58 | zinx | cafuego: -6... |
| 02:23.06 | leOn | cafuego: try ssh port |
| 02:23.08 | zinx | cafuego: at least, the one in unstable :x |
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| 02:23.18 | lokus | cause im trying to connect to the bnc using xchat and it keeps disconnecting me telling me i have a bad password |
| 02:23.21 | vaportrail111 | supaplex, not recognized?, cuz in most recent kernels it seems to be fine |
| 02:23.26 | leOn | it's ipv6 enabled and shouldn't be accessible |
| 02:23.26 | Supaplex | lokus: I did for a while, just ask your actually question :) |
| 02:23.33 | lokus | i just did |
| 02:23.37 | lokus | look up 4 lines |
| 02:23.41 | leOn | http should on the other hand |
| 02:23.51 | leOn | please try those two ports |
| 02:24.14 | Supaplex | vaportrail111: ifconfig reports it's bound to 192.168.0.9, however, tcpdump (on 2 different machines) show it's using 66.166.70.168 |
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| 02:24.56 | lokus | how did u do it supaplex? |
| 02:25.00 | Supaplex | leOn: ahh, was typing my response. did you try another client? or change your password? |
| 02:25.02 | vaportrail111 | are u dc'd to the net or go through a firewall or router? |
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| 02:25.34 | lokus | ut alking to me? |
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| 02:25.49 | lokus | im using the same password i use on IRC on my windows box |
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| 02:26.11 | Supaplex | lokus: yea, bad nick completion. humm... is it in bts? how are you trying to login? |
| 02:26.36 | lokus | bad nick completion? |
| 02:26.36 | Supaplex | vaportrail111: ipmasq via iptables 2.4.26kernel at the gateway |
| 02:26.42 | bloom | I'm trying to edit my Gnome MIME settings in such a way that if I click a link to a .tex file, I can make the file open in gvim |
| 02:27.00 | bloom | I haven't succeeded at doing this yet, even though I can double click a .tex file to make it open in gvim from nautilus |
| 02:27.25 | bloom | does anyone know how to edit my MIME types to make somehting like this work in galeon? |
| 02:27.35 | Supaplex | lokus: leOn and lokus both start with L right? when I hit l[TAB] it can be either leOn or lokus, but I didn't pay attention. |
| 02:27.43 | lokus | oh ehehe |
| 02:27.49 | lokus | confusing me :) |
| 02:28.34 | Supaplex | lokus: it helps when you don't want to type out vaportrail111 :) just hit v+tab and you get vaportrail111. right vaportrail111? :) |
| 02:28.41 | lokus | yes |
| 02:28.49 | lokus | oops |
| 02:29.00 | lokus | hehe |
| 02:29.23 | lokus | i dont see why it could be seeing it as a bad password |
| 02:29.30 | debian-san | Passing from kernel-2.4.18 to kernel-2.6.5 is it as easy as apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.5-1-386 or should I expect a lot of configuration after that? I'm using a laptop... |
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| 02:29.51 | leOn | debian-san: some configuration |
| 02:30.01 | leOn | debian-san: usb module names |
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| 02:30.31 | debian-san | Ok. |
| 02:30.40 | Boreas | if i want to change the runlevels a program starts on, how SHOULD i do that in debian? I know i can rm -f /etc/rc2.d/SXXprogram, and replace it with KXXprogram, but is there a better way? It seems like later I get messages regarding the links I change in this way, like "such and such is not a link to /etc/init.d/something"... |
| 02:30.44 | bob2 | cafuego: I wouldn't do *that* backwards if I were you |
| 02:30.57 | bob2 | Boreas: update-rc.d |
| 02:30.58 | Boreas | or just an easier way in general? I remember RH having something good for this, like chkrunlevel |
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| 02:31.13 | bob2 | Boreas: but just deleting the S link should be plenty, and dpkg will promise to never undo your change |
| 02:31.20 | kdeuser | you can use rcconf |
| 02:31.40 | kdeuser | apt-get install rcconf |
| 02:31.41 | leOn | cafuego: 0000:0250:daff:feb8:e4e6 yours ? |
| 02:31.43 | leOn | =) |
| 02:31.46 | Boreas | bob2: update-rc.d just installs new ones, right? It doesn't change an old SXXprog to KXXprog, right? |
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| 02:32.00 | steven_ | how can i stop the popus |
| 02:32.03 | k-man | is there such a thing as lvm under windows? |
| 02:32.29 | bloom | I'm trying to edit my Gnome MIME settings in such a way that if I click a link to a .tex file in galeon, I can make the file open in gvim. I haven't succeeded at doing this yet, even though I can double click a .tex file to make it open in gvim from nautilus. does anyone know how to edit my MIME types to make somehting like this work in galeon? |
| 02:32.30 | cafuego | leOn: Looks like only port 80 is open |
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| 02:32.34 | bob2 | Boreas: why do you want to change it to a K link? doesn't removing the S stop it from starting? |
| 02:32.41 | leOn | cafuego: thanks |
| 02:32.42 | leOn | =) |
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| 02:33.02 | bob2 | Boreas: there's rcconf, too, as kdeuser says |
| 02:33.09 | leOn | cafuego: btw ... there's a neat repository with ipv6 stuff |
| 02:33.13 | Boreas | bob2: that's true... |
| 02:33.15 | leOn | nmap is there |
| 02:33.19 | Boreas | kdeuser: thanks, that's awsome! |
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| 02:33.42 | Boreas | this may be worthy of the FAQ, if anyone out there cares... its a question that seems to come up a lot, and this is the first time i've seen it answered well |
| 02:33.43 | lokus | um ok |
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| 02:34.04 | cafuego | leOn: yeah, I have an ipv6 apache1.3.x from that on the main server. On the test box apache2 and the normal ssh seem to manage. |
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| 02:34.14 | bob2 | Boreas: it's not in the FAQ fro mthe topic? |
| 02:35.09 | leOn | cafe: using a tweaked ipv6 fw i found |
| 02:35.14 | Boreas | bob2: i hope not, or i'll feel fairly stupid... |
| 02:35.18 | leOn | cafuego: want the link ? |
| 02:35.19 | kwak | can somebody tell me something about gnoppix. because it says that its based on debian (woody) |
| 02:35.21 | cafuego | leOn: I just punch 'em in by hand. |
| 02:35.25 | Boreas | bob2: i'll go check ;) |
| 02:35.31 | leOn | ok |
| 02:35.32 | leOn | =) |
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| 02:35.41 | bob2 | kwak: #knoppix |
| 02:35.47 | bob2 | er, #gnoppix |
| 02:35.52 | cafuego | ip6tables -a INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp -d [dest-ip] --dport 80 -j ACCEPT |
| 02:35.53 | bloom | I'm trying to edit my Gnome MIME settings in such a way that if I click a link to a .tex file in galeon, I can make the file open in gvim. I haven't succeeded at doing this yet, even though I can double click a .tex file to make it open in gvim from nautilus. does anyone know how to edit my MIME types to make somehting like this work in galeon? |
| 02:35.54 | tam | arggh, people in work pissing me off. if one isn't saying the licenses are crap another is saying that people make money as developers |
| 02:35.59 | cafuego | policy DROP |
| 02:36.25 | cafuego | And port 443 now |
| 02:36.26 | leOn | cafuego: i have some icmp rules |
| 02:36.34 | leOn | against burst and such |
| 02:36.41 | cafuego | leOn: I just reject those |
| 02:36.51 | bob2 | bloom: #galeon? |
| 02:36.58 | kwak | #gnoppix |
| 02:37.02 | cafuego | leOn: People don't need to ping that box from outside my lan. |
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| 02:37.08 | leOn | ehhe |
| 02:37.15 | bloom | bob2: there is no #galeon |
| 02:37.25 | NiffumM | My question is in relation to virtual terminals on a serial line. I have setup a serial (/dev/ttyS0) console, in lilo and inittab) and it works jsut dandy. What i would 'like' to implement is about 6 virtual terminals encapsulated in the one serial line |
| 02:37.34 | bob2 | bloom: then ask on the galeon list? or debian-user? |
| 02:37.34 | bloom | bob2: correction: I created it when I /joined it |
| 02:37.40 | bob2 | heh |
| 02:37.40 | leOn | hmmm... hope these rules don't messup the sixxs checking for link ... |
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| 02:37.46 | bloom | bob2: I guess I'll have to |
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| 02:38.05 | Boreas | bob2: there is a mention of going to read /etc/init.d/README and man update-rc.d |
| 02:38.19 | NiffumM | I have read allot of howto's and man pages but there doesn't seem to be any support for it. Is there any refferences on this? |
| 02:38.20 | cafuego | leOn: My tunnel box has an ipv4 icmp accept rule for the tunnel provider. |
| 02:38.40 | Supaplex | ... |
| 02:38.51 | leOn | cafuego: problem is that i'm not sure if they only use icmp |
| 02:38.51 | Supaplex | nm that. |
| 02:39.07 | dondelelcaro | NiffumM: you mean on the lines of the vt's implemented for the console? |
| 02:39.14 | leOn | apparently yes ... the heartbeat doesn't bind to any port... |
| 02:39.16 | dondelelcaro | NiffumM: why not just use screen? |
| 02:39.19 | bob2 | NiffumM: how could you run six vt's on one serial port? |
| 02:39.29 | leOn | cafuego: btw ... you can ping me, right ? |
| 02:39.31 | cafuego | leOn: most do, they just send the ipv4 end of the tunnel the odd ping. |
| 02:39.32 | bob2 | NiffumM: ei, how woudl the kernel know where to send keypresses? |
| 02:39.41 | es | hello I'm trying to install apache2 on woody from backports.org. I was unable to add it to my source btw it needs libexpat1 and issuing "apt-get install libexpat1" I have: |
| 02:39.44 | es | apache2-common: Depends: libdb4.2 but it is not installable; Depends: mime-support but it is not going to be installed; Depends: openssl but it is not going to be installed; Depends: ssl-cert (>= 1.0-7) but it is not installable; Depends: libmagic1 but it is not installable; libapr0: Depends: libdb4.2 but it is not installable; |
| 02:39.53 | es | what should I do? |
| 02:40.09 | leOn | es: apt-get -f install |
| 02:40.17 | dondelelcaro | bob2: well, assuming you did a getty properly, you could probably do it... (it'd basically be a getty with multiple logins underneath it... it would have to keep track of which vt it was on...) |
| 02:40.21 | leOn | and check those versions |
| 02:40.34 | es | le0n: it's that safe what does it mean? |
| 02:40.54 | bob2 | es: "I was unable to add it to my source btw"? |
| 02:41.04 | leOn | es: usually backports provides the needed versions for stuff ... you're just missing the includes in the sources.list |
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| 02:41.32 | NiffumM | dondelelcaro: yes, so that i would have 6 virtual consoles if i was accually infront of the machine.. and a seperate 6 on the serial line.. so i connect to ttyS0 and press alt f2 to get the second vt |
| 02:41.41 | cafuego | leOn: Hmm no, my tunnel box is blocking ipv6 pings |
| 02:41.51 | es | le0n, bob2: yes I'm new to deb and they don't provide the line to add to the apt source. |
| 02:42.01 | bob2 | dondelelcaro: hmm, so getty handles alt-fN keypresses and thenswitches which login gets it? |
| 02:42.03 | dondelelcaro | NiffumM: yeah, there's not a getty out there that does that to my knowledge. However, screen will enable you to do effectively the same thing |
| 02:42.07 | bob2 | es: yes they do |
| 02:42.09 | leOn | es: yes they do |
| 02:42.13 | leOn | =) |
| 02:42.13 | NiffumM | dondelelcaro: ive been thinking that the only alternative is screen. Unless i get a different getty program |
| 02:42.39 | dondelelcaro | NiffumM: there's really no reason not to use screen in the first place... it tends to do these things better than getty anyway. |
| 02:42.46 | es | heh I probably missed that page... |
| 02:42.47 | NiffumM | dondelelcaro: although... if i can workout how to phrase alt f1 in the serial line, i could set an alias up to change the screen session couldn't i ? |
| 02:42.56 | leOn | es: http://backports.org/installation.html and http://www.backports.org/debian/dists/woody/ |
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| 02:43.00 | leOn | all you need |
| 02:43.01 | cafuego | and crtl-a+X is fatser then alt-Fx |
| 02:43.22 | NiffumM | dondelelcaro: indeed, this only occured to me last night.. after spending 8 hours trying to work out how to implement vt's on ttyS0 |
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| 02:43.45 | dondelelcaro | NiffumM: if alt-Fn actually makes it to screen, it's pretty trivial. It might not actually make it to screen though... |
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| 02:44.41 | NiffumM | dondelelcaro: *blinks* so what your saying is alt-Fn probably uses screen? :) |
| 02:45.06 | dondelelcaro | NiffumM: no. what I'm saying is that the alt-Fn keypress will never make it to screen, in most cases. |
| 02:45.21 | es | le0n: argh (thanks). then I can use apt-get -f install to override the default behavior to not install unstable stuff in woody right? |
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| 02:45.26 | dondelelcaro | NiffumM: so there's no point in mapping alt-Fn to the workspace change |
| 02:45.27 | NiffumM | dondelelcaro: i'll have to man screen and see if i can name the screen sessions... i usually have about 8 ssh open and i forget which ones doing a kernel compile.. and which ones logged into which box |
| 02:45.41 | dondelelcaro | NiffumM: yes, you can name them. It's pretty easy. |
| 02:46.07 | NiffumM | dondelelcaro: well, i set the title of ssh using escape sequences, so at least it shows me which dev the ssh is connected to |
| 02:46.15 | Xenguy | NiffumM: ^-a Shft-a |
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| 02:46.39 | dondelelcaro | NiffumM: screen has escape sequences just like xterm does. |
| 02:47.05 | NiffumM | dondelelcaro why wouldn't you think there would be any point to making a link with the alt key? inront of a box i switch consoles about every 10 seconds when i'm programming |
| 02:47.41 | leOn | es: -f install gets things right basically |
| 02:47.57 | dondelelcaro | NiffumM: because it's faster to type ctrl-a 1 than alt-Fn? |
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| 02:48.31 | cafuego | Crud, apache2 ssl ain't kidding: 256bit DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA TLSv1 |
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| 02:48.33 | ziggyzaggy | hi |
| 02:48.35 | ziggyzaggy | hey |
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| 02:48.38 | es | Err http://www.backports.org stable/package Packages 404 Not Found. the line I have in apt sources is idetical to one in the website. arghh |
| 02:48.45 | ziggyzaggy | who here has a enterasys pcmcia card in here |
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| 02:48.51 | dondelelcaro | !tell ziggyzaggy about ask |
| 02:49.00 | debian | cafuego: no 3DES? kids today.... :) |
| 02:49.05 | NiffumM | dondelelcaro: heh... indeed. Well, now that you mention it.. i pulled the keys of that box to clean the keyboard.. and i re-arranged them to spell the alphabet.. so nothing corresponds to what it actually is |
| 02:49.06 | leOn | es: no comments ........... |
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| 02:49.23 | ziggyzaggy | dondelelcaro: sorry |
| 02:49.23 | NiffumM | bob2: i don't see why i coudlnt' run 6 vt's on a serial line |
| 02:49.24 | ziggyzaggy | heh |
| 02:49.36 | cafuego | debian: apache1.3.x gives me RC4-MD5 |
| 02:50.05 | bob2 | es: works for me |
| 02:50.06 | leOn | es: if at least you read the 1st line on that page ... |
| 02:50.21 | debian | cafuego: XD what more can you ask. |
| 02:50.34 | leOn | bob2: he must have a reading problem |
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| 02:50.56 | leOn | is only able to read from the 3 paragraph on ... |
| 02:50.56 | cafuego | debian: Hmm, not probably having to migrate ~ 80 vhosts from apache 1.3 x to apache2? |
| 02:50.58 | leOn | *sigh* |
| 02:51.13 | es | bob2 le0n I must go to sleep that's true folks sorry for wasting your time! |
| 02:51.25 | cafuego | debian: ... and then adding ~ 10 new ipv6 ones |
| 02:51.34 | dondelelcaro | hrm... always nice to know that the fan in the machine works... |
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| 02:52.03 | Davey- | anyone got a good sources.list for sarge? |
| 02:52.06 | debian | cafuego: just curious, what'd be the major difficulities in migrating vhosts from 1.3x to 2x? besides, that ipv6 ones |
| 02:52.11 | thomas_adam | Davey-: apt-setup |
| 02:52.12 | es | le0n almost 5 am here |
| 02:52.12 | gcbirzan | Davey-: apt-setup |
| 02:52.14 | bob2 | dondelelcaro: my fan has a really cool self-testing feature |
| 02:52.15 | dondelelcaro | Davey-: just find a mirror that is close to you. |
| 02:52.24 | gcbirzan | Or apt-get install apt-spy |
| 02:52.26 | bob2 | dondelelcaro: every day or so it whines, REALLY LOUD, so I know it's still working |
| 02:52.26 | Davey- | apt-setup? nice |
| 02:52.26 | Davey- | lol |
| 02:52.41 | Davey- | yea I just installed progeny debian |
| 02:52.48 | Davey- | and all they had was cdrom links in there |
| 02:52.49 | ziggyzaggy | hey if anyone has used enterasys card - let me know - i have some windows and linux questions about it |
| 02:52.53 | cafuego | !essentially debian |
| 02:52.53 | dpkg | i guess essentially debian is yeah, xandros, libra, knoppix are all essentially debian, but do you go to a Mistubishi dealership to get help on a Plymouth Champ, or a Volkswagen dealership to get help with a Porsche 914/4? Don't expect help from #debian with your "essentially debian" crap-distribution: either get help from your distributor or switch to full-on Debian. |
| 02:52.57 | debian | Davey-: /j #progeny |
| 02:52.58 | thomas_adam | bob2: Does it come with elephants and a bunch of grapes? |
| 02:53.02 | dondelelcaro | bob2: heh. this one here is a bit wierd, because it's a laptop that runs relativly cool, I've gone for days without the thing turning on... |
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| 02:53.27 | dondelelcaro | bob2: but playing oggs, upgrading, and doing something in mozilla has finally brought the fan on... |
| 02:53.59 | thomas_adam | dondelelcaro: Splendid! How delightful, how jolly good for you. :) |
| 02:54.01 | debian | cafuego: in the past #debian was my major source of general linux question, but that was 100+ people in here then. :) |
| 02:54.29 | thomas_adam | debian: We had children, I see. :) |
| 02:54.33 | ziggyzaggy | cafuego: don't u have a enterasys pcmcia card |
| 02:54.37 | dondelelcaro | !u |
| 02:54.38 | dpkg | Dammit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1 |
| 02:54.44 | debian | thmoas_adam: hehe |
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| 02:54.55 | debian | !you |
| 02:54.55 | dpkg | p!dn+s os`n |
| 02:55.00 | thomas_adam | 600 almost! |
| 02:55.16 | gcbirzan | 700, you mean? :-) |
| 02:55.18 | cafuego | At least PHPs gethostbyaddr() supports ipv6. |
| 02:55.33 | Supaplex | sup don |
| 02:55.33 | cafuego | ziggyzaggy: No, I don't. |
| 02:55.39 | thomas_adam | dpkg, forget you |
| 02:55.40 | dpkg | thomas_adam: i forgot you |
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| 02:55.51 | debian | dondelelcaro: look again upside-down |
| 02:55.56 | guestish | thomas_lol |
| 02:55.56 | jmob | Anyone know if regular connection tracking (in a set of firewall rules) should work for rsync? |
| 02:56.03 | cafuego | dpkg, you are a piece of shit |
| 02:56.04 | dpkg | cafuego: what are you talking about? |
| 02:56.06 | cafuego | !you |
| 02:56.06 | dpkg | i guess dpkg is the debian package manager, sort of like the debian equivalent to rpm. |
| 02:56.12 | cafuego | <heh> |
| 02:56.14 | guestish | lol |
| 02:56.17 | debian | thomas_adam: that's very rude you know |
| 02:56.22 | guestish | come on, that makes too much sense |
| 02:56.25 | bob2 | jmob: should do |
| 02:56.26 | thomas_adam | debian: What is? |
| 02:56.29 | dondelelcaro | debian: silly. |
| 02:56.30 | guestish | !+factinfo you |
| 02:56.31 | dpkg | guestish: there's no such factoid as you |
| 02:56.36 | gcbirzan | dpkg: unforget you |
| 02:56.36 | guestish | heh... |
| 02:56.36 | dpkg | gcbirzan: safe delete has been disable so what is there to undelete? |
| 02:56.40 | gcbirzan | Hm. |
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| 02:57.11 | Davey- | <debian> Davey-: /j #progeny <-- there isnt a chan there, lol |
| 02:57.11 | gcbirzan | !you |
| 02:57.11 | dpkg | methinks dpkg is the debian package manager, sort of like the debian equivalent to rpm. |
| 02:57.13 | debian | thomas_adam: forgetting factoids made by others |
| 02:57.19 | gcbirzan | Ah. |
| 02:57.26 | thomas_adam | debian: True, but then they should make sense. |
| 02:57.54 | thomas_adam | poor bot. |
| 02:57.56 | debian | thomas_adam: look at it again upside-down, and you'd see why you dn't understand it. |
| 02:58.05 | guestish | debian: whats it say upside down? |
| 02:58.12 | thomas_adam | debian: I did understand it. |
| 02:58.23 | guestish | lol |
| 02:58.32 | debian | guestish: XD |
| 02:58.35 | jmob | bob2, okay, 'cause I have to allow new connections from the rsync server I'm using for a our department's local mirror, and I'm not sure why. |
| 02:58.36 | debian | guestish: go figure. :) |
| 02:58.42 | guestish | debian: =P |
| 02:58.51 | debian | thomas_adam: n/m. :) |
| 02:59.00 | thomas_adam | bed time. |
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| 03:00.44 | guestish | does debian have a packaged product? |
| 03:01.05 | helix | huh? |
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| 03:01.27 | dondelelcaro | guestish: we don't sell anything. |
| 03:01.30 | guestish | what do you mean huh? |
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| 03:01.53 | guestish | dondelelcaro: k, just wondering. so i'd need to get/make burned cds |
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| 03:02.15 | dondelelcaro | guestish: there are people who sell them though... |
| 03:02.28 | gcbirzan | Check out http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/, or http://www.debian.org/distrib/pre-installed |
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| 03:02.33 | guestish | thx |
| 03:02.34 | MarcoPau | what is HPPA? |
| 03:02.49 | bob2 | jmob: it's just a normal tcp connection, like http or smtp |
| 03:02.52 | dondelelcaro | !hppa |
| 03:02.52 | dpkg | hmm... hppa is http://www.parisc-linux.org |
| 03:02.53 | bob2 | nothing complicated like ftp |
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| 03:04.16 | mohit | Hi, does anyone know about the following error while running mutt: "Error in /home/vivek/.muttrc, line 6: MuttMail: invalid mailbox type" |
| 03:04.20 | MarcoPau | thanks dondelelcaro |
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| 03:05.19 | bob2 | mohit: paste line 6 |
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| 03:05.35 | jmob | bob2, okay, thanks |
| 03:05.41 | mohit | set mbox_type="MuttMail |
| 03:05.45 | mohit | set mbox_type="MuttMail" |
| 03:06.01 | simonrvn | mboxen: maildir, mbox, mh |
| 03:06.21 | simonrvn | man mutt, man muttrc |
| 03:06.23 | bob2 | yeah, that doesn't sound like a valid value |
| 03:06.26 | dondelelcaro | The default mailbox type used when creating new folders. May be any of mbox, MMDF, MH and Maildir. |
| 03:06.38 | simonrvn | forgot about mmdf |
| 03:06.53 | simonrvn | mh is from the mh-type mail tools |
| 03:07.02 | dondelelcaro | ah... yeah, never bothered with those. |
| 03:07.04 | bob2 | like maildir but with index files |
| 03:07.08 | bob2 | iirc |
| 03:07.18 | simonrvn | ah |
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| 03:09.18 | mohit | thanks guys...working on it. |
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| 03:10.59 | michaeltclark | Hi everyone, I was wondering if someone could point me towards a kernel patch that would allow me to use Posix ACL with reiserfs |
| 03:11.42 | simonrvn | !scrape google for reiserfs acl |
| 03:11.49 | dpkg | Google says "reiserfs acl" is at http://lwn.net/Articles/79173/ or http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0404.0/1539.html or http://acl.bestbits.at/pipermail/acl-devel/2004-April/001693.html or http://acl.bestbits.at/pipermail/acl-devel/2004-April/001692.html or http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-security/2003-Jan/0337.html or http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0007.3/0854.html [39,100 results] |
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| 03:12.28 | simonrvn | michaeltclark: ^^^^^ |
| 03:12.38 | itrip | Hi |
| 03:12.41 | nullvoid | any tool that I can use to create my dns and reverse config? |
| 03:12.52 | dondelelcaro | $EDITOR? |
| 03:12.57 | g4lt | nullvoid vi |
| 03:13.05 | bob2 | heh |
| 03:13.08 | g4lt | REAL men edit zonefiles with vi |
| 03:13.18 | bob2 | dns is serious enough that you don't want to fuck with it if you can't edit zone files yourself |
| 03:13.28 | michaeltclark | thanks |
| 03:13.28 | bob2 | tho webmin probably has a thingy for it |
| 03:13.29 | xsdg | g4lt: only because nothing else is available |
| 03:13.39 | itrip | I just compiled 2.4.26, but when it's booting it says that /dev/hda7 (boot) has some problem... and wants me to e2fsck... |
| 03:13.50 | g4lt | xsdg damn right, both ind and vi go back to net/2 |
| 03:13.52 | itrip | but when I use the original 2.4.18-bf2.4, it boots just fine |
| 03:13.54 | itrip | any ideas? |
| 03:14.05 | simonrvn | g4lt: i do that already. what's your point? ;P |
| 03:14.28 | simonrvn | though i 'cheat', i use vim |
| 03:14.29 | mick_laptop | what does "passwd: Authentication token manipulation error" |
| 03:14.32 | mick_laptop | that mean |
| 03:14.49 | xsdg | g4lt: ind? |
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| 03:15.01 | g4lt | xsdg typoese for bind |
| 03:15.19 | mick_laptop | i changed my passwd - now i get an error "Sorry" everytime i try to "su" to any user |
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| 03:16.03 | mick_laptop | when i try to change my password again, i get "passwd: Cannot determine your user name." |
| 03:16.09 | mick_laptop | wtf is that all about |
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| 03:16.24 | g4lt | mick_laptop run id |
| 03:16.50 | itrip | g4lt: any idea about my problem? |
| 03:17.02 | mick_laptop | i know my username - and id does show it |
| 03:17.03 | g4lt | itrip since I haven't seen it, no |
| 03:17.14 | mick_laptop | passwd doesn't see it though |
| 03:17.14 | itrip | o |
| 03:17.14 | itrip | I just compiled 2.4.26, but when it's booting it says that /dev/hda7 (boot) has some problem... and wants me to e2fsck... |
| 03:17.15 | itrip | but when I use the original 2.4.18-bf2.4, it boots just fine |
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| 03:17.24 | bob2 | mick_laptop: does it work if you log into a new terminal? |
| 03:17.29 | bob2 | itrip: you need to keep repeating |
| 03:17.40 | mick_laptop | bob2: let me try |
| 03:17.40 | bob2 | itrip: we can't answer until the 17th time |
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| 03:17.40 | nullvoid | g4lt: I know about vi(m) but I am getting problem from some stupid site which is complaining my dns can't reverse, I don't want to waste my time and want to look for a tool |
| 03:17.43 | cafuego | Hahaaa! Watch apache2 eat 35% cpu! |
| 03:17.49 | g4lt | itrip and fscking is that difficult to do? |
| 03:18.03 | itrip | bob2: sorry, g4lt hadn't seen it |
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| 03:18.09 | g4lt | nullvoid make the reverse zone file |
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| 03:18.15 | bob2 | itrip: the kernel shouldn't care about /boot during boot |
| 03:18.33 | g4lt | bob2 relax, I asked him that time |
| 03:18.35 | mick_laptop | holly shit |
| 03:18.39 | mick_laptop | i can't login |
| 03:18.50 | g4lt | bob2 blame my foot and the power cord :/ |
| 03:18.50 | mick_laptop | w/ any user |
| 03:19.01 | mick_laptop | ok, now thats fucked up |
| 03:19.05 | nullvoid | g4lt: do you read my text? I had created it but maybe it is not good enough! so I need a tools |
| 03:19.08 | itrip | bob2: according to my current /etc/fstab, /dev/hda7 needs to be mapped to /dev/hda7 |
| 03:19.15 | itrip | so I am thinking it's trying to map it |
| 03:19.20 | g4lt | nullvoid did you restart bind? |
| 03:19.24 | mick_laptop | i have a feeling that i may have been compromised |
| 03:19.41 | nullvoid | g4lt: huh! YES |
| 03:19.42 | g4lt | mick_laptop boot init=/bin/sh |
| 03:19.48 | bob2 | itrip: "mapped"? |
| 03:19.58 | mick_laptop | well, i can do that |
| 03:20.03 | marcst | i don't understand mapped either |
| 03:20.12 | nullvoid | mick_laptop: don't forget to remount with rw |
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| 03:20.25 | itrip | bob2: mounted, I mean |
| 03:20.50 | mick_laptop | ya, i might just boot a live cd and transfer things over to another disk, then reinstall (i have been meaning to do that) |
| 03:20.52 | gcbirzan | How can I find out which packages provide a certain alternative? |
| 03:20.58 | bob2 | erm, you don't mount filesystems to /dev |
| 03:21.12 | bob2 | gcbirzan: apt-cache showpkg virtual-name |
| 03:21.25 | nullvoid | gcbirzan: apt-cache show <package> look at conflict |
| 03:21.29 | bob2 | gcbirzan: if you mean real-life symlink alternatives, there isn't anyway, unfortunately :/ |
| 03:21.44 | gcbirzan | bob2: Yeah, that's what I meant. |
| 03:21.46 | itrip | here is the actual fstab line: /dev/hda7 /boot ext2 defaults 0 2 |
| 03:22.00 | g4lt | nullvoid can you resolve the your host on a spare machine, forwards and backwards? |
| 03:22.16 | mick_laptop | would hardlinks be an alternative? (define real-life) |
| 03:22.20 | nullvoid | g4lt: how do I test it? |
| 03:22.20 | somiaj | gcbirzan: if you know the the binary its linked to, you could try dpkg -S <file> |
| 03:22.28 | gcbirzan | Then, maybe somebody knows, what else provides an alternative for infobrowser? |
| 03:22.41 | gcbirzan | somiaj: No, I mean the /etc/alternatives/ stuff. |
| 03:22.41 | g4lt | nullvoid ssh <testmachine> host <yourmahcine> |
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| 03:22.49 | bob2 | gcbirzan: pinfo |
| 03:23.08 | g4lt | nullvoid and you do realize that DNS takes up to three days to propagate? |
| 03:23.09 | nullvoid | the <> is ip or what? |
| 03:23.17 | somiaj | gcbirzan: I see, I knew the /etc/alternatives stuff I was thinking if it was on your computer you could figure it out...(: |
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| 03:23.24 | marcst | itrip: nothing wrong with that, why not just let it do the fsck? |
| 03:23.29 | bob2 | mick_laptop: no, debian has a system called the "alternatives system", where, for example, all the vi clones can provide /usr/bin/vi, and sort it out between them |
| 03:23.33 | nullvoid | g4lt: my website dns is working, same with my mail is working as well |
| 03:23.40 | g4lt | nullvoid for testmachine, it's whatever, for targetmachine, it's once each way |
| 03:23.41 | mick_laptop | aah ok |
| 03:23.46 | gcbirzan | somiaj: update-alternatives --list <whatever>, but it wasn't installed. :-) |
| 03:24.00 | gcbirzan | bob2: Aha, much better, hehe. Thanks. :-) |
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| 03:24.20 | g4lt | gcbirzan grep-dctrl |
| 03:24.52 | itrip | marcst: ok, going to try that... |
| 03:24.55 | itrip | thanks |
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| 03:25.29 | g4lt | marcst congratulations, you finally got him to listen to what we'd been saying ;) |
| 03:25.33 | mohit | does anyone have a sample .poprc for mutt I can peek at? |
| 03:25.46 | marcst | i was just wondering... what's so special about what i said lol |
| 03:26.03 | gcbirzan | g4lt: Hm, will that tell me what provides a certain alternative (the /etc/alternatives/ ones)? |
| 03:26.07 | g4lt | marcst whatever, he actually listened |
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| 03:26.22 | g4lt | gcbirzan with the proper RE, yes |
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| 03:26.48 | mohit | Can anyone tell me how to pop mail using mutt? |
| 03:26.51 | gcbirzan | g4lt: But that info isn't liste in the control file... |
| 03:26.55 | gcbirzan | mohit: g |
| 03:26.59 | g4lt | gcbirzan hint: foor provides bar is usually dealt with by alternatives |
| 03:27.17 | mohit | Doesn't "g" need a .poprc? |
| 03:28.18 | mohit | #debian |
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| 03:28.26 | gcbirzan | g4lt: Yeah, but not always. |
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| 03:28.43 | g4lt | gcbirzan note the weasel word "usually" |
| 03:28.47 | gcbirzan | mohit: zless /usr/share/doc/mutt/manual.txt.gz |
| 03:28.57 | mohit | ty |
| 03:29.19 | g4lt | !badgersmite weasel |
| 03:29.20 | zakaluka | Does anyone know how to get T.S. MicroTech's ISA FanCard-combo (www.fancard.com) card working under linux? I only want the IDE controller recognized. |
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| 03:30.41 | guestish | !badger |
| 03:31.00 | guestish | heh |
| 03:31.11 | guestish | someone removed it |
| 03:31.20 | g4lt | guestish good on them! |
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| 03:31.39 | guestish | g4lt: =P |
| 03:32.42 | guestish | is's? |
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| 03:33.34 | debian | g4lt: like debhelper. :) |
| 03:34.04 | kelon | where can I report a packaging bug? the eclipse-platform can't launch |
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| 03:35.32 | Roey | hello |
| 03:35.42 | Roey | is nessus2 in sid? |
| 03:35.54 | Invisible_Optiks | Is it possible to apt-get install mutliple things at the same time, like "apt-get install apache php4 mySQL" and have them be configured to eachother? |
| 03:36.02 | simonrvn | how about you use the tools to find out |
| 03:36.11 | Roey | ah good old #debian |
| 03:36.22 | Roey | yes I've searched for nessus2, nessus | grep gtk, etc. |
| 03:36.23 | debian | Roey: I'm still young |
| 03:36.24 | Roey | no go. |
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| 03:36.28 | debian | Roey: I'm still young |
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| 03:37.15 | jmob | Roey, use, apt-cache search nessus |
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| 03:38.24 | Q3Man | Invisible_Optiks, they will all be installed and configured, but they won't be configured to tie in together. In your example you will probably also want the php4-mysql pacakge |
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| 03:40.11 | Roey | jmob: there's nothing for nessus2 |
| 03:40.49 | aztecinc | Hello all |
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| 03:42.54 | aztecinc | I need some assistance locating a driver for an ATI Radeon 32mb ddr card I am running woody at this time ( the current stable release) can some one help me |
| 03:43.00 | jmob | Roey, packages.debian.org/nessus |
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| 03:43.29 | quitte | hi. i have a problem with squid. http works perfectly, but ftp doesn't. how do i activate ftp proxying? |
| 03:43.30 | lokus | sup fellas i cant compile anything |
| 03:43.42 | quitte | i think the last time i used it it just worked |
| 03:43.43 | lokus | what packages do i need to apt-get in order to be able to compile and configurestuff |
| 03:43.45 | jmob | lokus, cool |
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| 03:43.48 | somiaj | lokus: did you install build-essiental |
| 03:43.58 | lokus | build-essential? |
| 03:44.06 | lokus | dont believe so |
| 03:44.12 | somiaj | lokus: pluss you'll probably need the the -dev for the libarys what ever your building |
| 03:44.21 | lokus | i need all the shit heh |
| 03:44.29 | somiaj | lokus: that is just a meta package to pull in make, gcc, g++, libc6-dev... |
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| 03:44.43 | lokus | ok |
| 03:45.11 | bob2 | aztecinc: /msg dpkg setup x |
| 03:45.13 | felipe | why does php4-pear requires php4-cgi?? I do have php installed here already |
| 03:45.16 | lokus | any easy way to get them all? |
| 03:45.21 | bob2 | quitte: squid isn't a ftp proxy |
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| 03:45.34 | bob2 | lokus: install the package called build-essential |
| 03:45.39 | lokus | ok |
| 03:45.41 | gcbirzan | felipe: Because the pear commaand line utility uses the PHP4 binary. |
| 03:45.47 | bob2 | felipe: did you look at what php4-cgi is? |
| 03:45.51 | gcbirzan | felipe: Which is in the php4-cgi package. |
| 03:45.53 | bob2 | felipe: it's the command line php interpreter |
| 03:46.08 | lokus | ok doing it now ty |
| 03:46.13 | quitte | bob2 ok. so what proxy should i use. i just want it for a few minutes, so it should be really siple to configure |
| 03:46.30 | dan2 | bob2: hiya |
| 03:46.46 | felipe | gcbirzan: but when I start apache, which php will it load? |
| 03:46.55 | bob2 | dan2: hi |
| 03:46.58 | bob2 | felipe: the apache module |
| 03:46.58 | g4lt | !lart stoned tunnelbrokers |
| 03:47.15 | bob2 | felipe: read the php4-cgi descrtipion, it has nothing to do with apache unless you tell it to |
| 03:47.18 | aztecinc | bob2: X is working just fine, I need the open GL component that is not included in the driver that comes with the current ISO |
| 03:47.32 | felipe | bob2: ok...will check |
| 03:47.45 | dan2 | bob2: remember how I was talking about writing my own sip proxy, here is the library I am using: resiprocate: http://mirrorlynx.com/~dan/resiprocate-doc/html |
| 03:47.52 | felipe | bob2: thought I have 2 ways to install php...thru modules or cgi |
| 03:48.10 | felipe | bob2: never heard about both togeter |
| 03:48.24 | somiaj | aztecinc: did you install xlibmesa3, plus use the kernel module for your ati card (it comes with the 2.4.18 kernel) |
| 03:48.30 | bob2 | aztecinc: ah, #ati knows |
| 03:48.47 | bob2 | felipe: bah |
| 03:48.57 | bob2 | dan2: oh, neat |
| 03:49.10 | dan2 | bob2: 50mb in html documentation |
| 03:49.26 | bob2 | hah, hope it has decent sample code |
| 03:49.38 | dan2 | bob2: a lot in the source tree |
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| 03:49.38 | aztecinc | somiaj: ummmh not sure |
| 03:49.45 | felipe | bob2: but if apache starts the module, why is the cgi needed? |
| 03:50.07 | bob2 | dan2: it's the command-line tool |
| 03:50.12 | dan2 | bob2: its so big and powerful, I was thinking about making a compatibility library for osip2 |
| 03:50.15 | dan2 | bob2: huh? |
| 03:50.17 | bob2 | php4-pear includes some shit php program that runs on the command line |
| 03:50.25 | dan2 | bob2: hah |
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| 03:50.26 | bob2 | which needs a php interpreter |
| 03:50.30 | bob2 | which is in the php4-cgi package |
| 03:50.38 | somiaj | aztecinc: that should be all you need for older ati cards, if your card is a newer ati, you might do as suggested and join #ati. |
| 03:50.57 | Invisible_Optiks | Anyone here able to apt-get install apache, mySQL, and php4 and get them to work together? If you have any information for me, it would help a lot. I can get php and Apache to talk to eachother fine, but when it comes to mySQL I got nothing. |
| 03:51.04 | felipe | bob2: hmmm understood...I guess I wont intsall it then |
| 03:51.10 | bob2 | what? |
| 03:51.14 | g4lt | bob2 if it didn't need a php4 interpreter, it'd be called perl-pear ;P |
| 03:51.16 | bob2 | if you're installing pear, you have to |
| 03:51.17 | felipe | php4-pear |
| 03:51.22 | bob2 | ah |
| 03:51.30 | aztecinc | somiaj: the card is currently discontinued but I will be checking in #ati |
| 03:51.34 | bob2 | Invisible_Optiks: you've read all the documentation, right? |
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| 03:52.13 | felipe | g4lt: but I thought the module would do the work or something |
| 03:52.30 | somiaj | aztecinc: yea, looks like the kernel moudule in the 2.4.18 kernel with woody is called 'radeon', use that module with the 'radeon' or 'ati' driver in X and have the xlibmesa installed and you should be good to go |
| 03:52.40 | dan2 | bob2: when I was talking to the guys in person who wrote this, they weren't kidding when they said, "Its the only complete SIP library atm" |
| 03:52.57 | teknode | GG |
| 03:53.07 | g4lt | felipe it. was. a. joke. for. bob2. |
| 03:53.23 | felipe | g4lt k :) sry |
| 03:53.24 | bob2 | felipe: do you need some PEAR module? |
| 03:53.40 | felipe | bob2: just wanted to test its classes |
| 03:53.57 | felipe | bob2: c if it is interesting |
| 03:54.13 | dan2 | !C |
| 03:54.13 | dpkg | it has been said that c is <answer> C code. C code run. Run, code, run. Please? |
| 03:54.28 | felipe | ?? |
| 03:54.34 | bob2 | hah |
| 03:54.40 | felipe | did I miss something? |
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| 03:54.47 | bob2 | dan2: heh, yet another massively overengineered standard? |
| 03:54.47 | felipe | god...I am lost here!!! |
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| 03:55.08 | dan2 | dpkg: no, c is is SEE, or S-E-E. If you are too dam lazy to spell it out, so are we. |
| 03:55.09 | dpkg | dan2: okay |
| 03:55.29 | dan2 | dpkg: no, c is is SEE, or S-E-E. If you are too dam lazy to spell it out, so we are too lazy to help you. |
| 03:55.29 | dpkg | dan2: okay |
| 03:55.40 | dan2 | bob2: pretty much |
| 03:55.42 | aztecinc | somiaj: ok next silly question how do I do that, I am somewhat new to this, |
| 03:55.47 | simonrvn | try spelling correctly |
| 03:55.58 | dan2 | bob2: the devel team of resiprocate said they were going to write a higher level interface to it |
| 03:56.04 | dan2 | bob2: I haven't seen one yet |
| 03:56.06 | felipe | bob2: thx for the explanation |
| 03:56.08 | simonrvn | c =~ s/dam/damn/ |
| 03:56.14 | simonrvn | !c =~ s/dam/damn/ |
| 03:56.15 | dpkg | OK, simonrvn |
| 03:56.16 | jmob | english spelling is pointless |
| 03:56.16 | mohit | Hey, we are trying to setup mutt to use POP - referred to the online manual to use pop_host, pop_user etc. It doesn't do anything when I hit "G" - any ideas? |
| 03:56.23 | simonrvn | jmob: kiss my ass |
| 03:56.29 | dan2 | good lord |
| 03:56.33 | djtansey | hi. i'm trying to convert some users from a redhat system to a debian system (sarge) and would like to preserve the passwords. i thought i had it working once before with stable just copying the /etc/shadow file. i don't seem to do that now with testing. are there any guesses as to why this might happe and to what i might do? |
| 03:56.36 | dan2 | all this lightning... heh |
| 03:56.48 | jmob | simonrvn, as long as it's not too hairy, I've braces ya know. |
| 03:56.53 | simonrvn | it's called late spring :) |
| 03:57.04 | somiaj | aztecinc: to load the kernel module if you ahve the 2.4.x kernel, 'modprobe radeon', to make it load at boot up, add that to /etc/modules (its just a list of modules to be loaded) |
| 03:57.06 | simonrvn | jmob: hrm |
| 03:57.10 | bob2 | djtansey: I wouldn't do that... |
| 03:57.23 | simonrvn | my usual bofh self |
| 03:57.24 | bob2 | djtansey: copy the individuaal entries you care about to the new system |
| 03:57.37 | djtansey | bob2: wouldn't copy users? or wouldn't use the shadow? yeah. that's what i'm doing. the individual lines. not the whole file |
| 03:57.53 | dan2 | bob2: the irony of SIP is that, its a very simple protocol |
| 03:58.01 | somiaj | aztecinc: then use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and pick the 'radeon' or 'ati' driver for your graphics card and say 'yes' to include the DRI info |
| 03:58.01 | jmob | simonrvn, I guess I won't tell you my user name then. |
| 03:58.16 | somiaj | aztecinc: last apt-get install xlibmesa3 (hopefully that's still the package name in woody..(: |
| 03:58.22 | simonrvn | jmob: too late |
| 03:58.28 | felipe | how is the easiest way of creating a user w/ adduser? |
| 03:58.30 | mohit | anyone?? |
| 03:58.48 | simonrvn | mohit: anyone left. might be back later though |
| 03:58.51 | dan2 | bob2: but because of its simplicity, it seemed to bring in a lot of bullshit. Resiprocate is the only library that is able to work around all of sip's major issues. e.g. NAT Traversal |
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| 03:58.52 | thomas_adam | felipe: adduser <username> |
| 03:58.56 | bob2 | mohit: very few peopel use POP with mutt... |
| 03:59.07 | mohit | yeah, i am onoe of them... |
| 03:59.11 | aztecinc | somiaj:aztecinc:/home/kevin# modprobe radeon |
| 03:59.11 | aztecinc | modprobe: Can't locate module radeon |
| 03:59.12 | felipe | thomas_sun: does it ask for password then? |
| 03:59.15 | dan2 | bob2: why would you do that? |
| 03:59.16 | bob2 | dan2: hm, is SIP UDP-based? |
| 03:59.18 | thomas_adam | felipe: man adduser |
| 03:59.19 | bob2 | mohit: #mutt then |
| 03:59.20 | simonrvn | mohit: hint: fetchmail |
| 03:59.25 | djtansey | bob2: any suggestions? |
| 03:59.26 | felipe | thomas_adam: does it ask for password then? |
| 03:59.27 | bob2 | dan2: don't ask me, I use fetchmail |
| 03:59.28 | thomas_adam | felipe: man adduser |
| 03:59.35 | thomas_adam | felipe: RTFM. |
| 03:59.37 | g4lt | mohit most people have gotten sane and started using imaps |
| 03:59.37 | felipe | did it already |
| 03:59.40 | bob2 | djtansey: you're copying the shade and /etc/passwd entries, right? |
| 03:59.45 | somiaj | aztecinc: what kernel are you using, 'uname -a' |
| 03:59.46 | thomas_adam | felipe: Don't lie/ |
| 03:59.48 | bob2 | djtansey: and the /etc/group ones? |
| 03:59.51 | simonrvn | g4lt: imaps is teh yummay |
| 04:00.00 | mohit | okay... |
| 04:00.05 | felipe | it is opened here |
| 04:00.43 | djtansey | bob2: yup. (well, i'm adding the users with the same name in debian then getting rid of the password field in shadow.) |
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| 04:00.48 | thomas_adam | felipe: From the man page: " The --disabled-password option will not set a password, but login are still possible for example through SSH RSA keys." |
| 04:01.02 | bob2 | djtansey: I mean, do all the uid and gids match up? |
| 04:01.06 | thomas_adam | felipe: Was that too hard for you to see? |
| 04:01.07 | bob2 | they will eb different on RH and Debian |
| 04:01.09 | karsten | Straw pole: What does "workstation" and "local" mean, in an installation context, for you? |
| 04:01.16 | i386 | anyone running mod-mono-server.exe (XSP & mod_mono) on an apache debian stable machine? |
| 04:01.16 | djtansey | bob2: yup. i changed them to the debian numbers |
| 04:01.16 | felipe | thomas_adam: ah k... |
| 04:01.33 | simonrvn | karsten: straws aren't poles |
| 04:01.33 | bob2 | i386: hah, good luck |
| 04:01.34 | aztecinc | somiaj: 2.2.20 but I did see that module |
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| 04:01.54 | somiaj | aztecinc: ok, you'll need to get a 2.4.18 kernel, what processor are you using? |
| 04:02.08 | i386 | bob2, oh great :P |
| 04:02.18 | simonrvn | now i can blow bubbles! |
| 04:02.23 | karsten | ...lamers using bitchX... |
| 04:02.32 | thomas_adam | simonrvn: Pea-shooter. |
| 04:02.34 | karsten | ...lamers using bitchX and enabling "quit" messages... |
| 04:02.42 | karsten | ...or lamers who can't spell "Kevorkian". |
| 04:02.54 | simonrvn | or not turning the stupid things off. aren't they on by default? |
| 04:02.59 | aztecinc | somiaj: PIII 700 with 512mb PC 133 ram |
| 04:03.06 | simonrvn | thomas_adam: even better |
| 04:03.08 | thomas_adam | *I'm too lame to read the docs* |
| 04:03.17 | simonrvn | exactly |
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| 04:03.43 | somiaj | aztecinc: ok, apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-1-686 |
| 04:04.07 | illogic-al | where can i get the full version of debian? |
| 04:04.14 | somiaj | aztecinc: make sure you follow the instructions on the initrd stuff so you can boot off of it...so read everything that it tells ya to |
| 04:04.17 | simonrvn | speaking of.. |
| 04:04.19 | dan2 | bob2: pop sucks to begin with |
| 04:04.24 | dan2 | bob2: I use imap with mew in emacs :) |
| 04:04.25 | thomas_adam | simonrvn: karsten: http://www.strugglers.net/rants/BitchX.phtml |
| 04:04.40 | g4lt | thomas_adam BTW, you ought to find out if it's still misspelled before going off.. |
| 04:04.49 | aztecinc | somiaj: apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-1-686 |
| 04:04.49 | aztecinc | Reading Package Lists... Done |
| 04:04.49 | aztecinc | Building Dependency Tree... Done |
| 04:04.49 | aztecinc | Package kernel-image-2.4.18-1-686 has no available version, but exists in the database. |
| 04:04.49 | aztecinc | This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and |
| 04:04.49 | aztecinc | never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents |
| 04:04.50 | streuner | illogic-al: what do you mean with 'full version'? |
| 04:04.50 | *** kick/#debian [aztecinc!~debhelper@rzlab.ucr.edu] by debhelper (flood) |
| 04:04.53 | thomas_adam | g4lt: Hmm? |
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| 04:05.05 | bob2 | illogic-al: www.debian.org |
| 04:05.13 | illogic-al | streuner, i mean the version with everything |
| 04:05.16 | bob2 | dan2: mew not gnus? |
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| 04:05.24 | illogic-al | bob2, no that's only the download version |
| 04:05.26 | g4lt | thomas_adam your particular spelling error's been fixed for months in sid |
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| 04:05.31 | dan2 | bob2: gnus seems to be borked with imap support, remind me to send a bug to Manoj |
| 04:05.31 | somiaj | aztecinc: don't paste in here again. |
| 04:05.35 | illogic-al | does anyone have a full copy? |
| 04:05.40 | dan2 | bob2: I do prefer gnus tho |
| 04:05.50 | thomas_adam | g4lt: John, you've lost me..... |
| 04:05.53 | aztecinc | somiaj: ok learned that the hard way LOL |
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| 04:05.59 | *** mode/#debian [-o bob2] by bob2 |
| 04:06.00 | somiaj | aztecinc: do you haev security.debian.org in your sources.list 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list' |
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| 04:06.18 | g4lt | thomas_adam the "I'm too lame to read BitchX.doc" has been fixed |
| 04:06.22 | aztecinc | somiaj: it had been |
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| 04:06.37 | thomas_adam | g4lt: aaah. I haven't used BitchX for a few years now... |
| 04:06.53 | somiaj | aztecinc: for the kernel, you'll want to add a line for sercurity.debian.org to your sources.list and then apt-get update and try to install again. |
| 04:06.54 | aztecinc | somiaj: grr does not appear to be now |
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| 04:07.24 | somiaj | aztecinc: you can also run 'apt-setup' to do that for ya, though not as nice as just adding the line IMO |
| 04:07.36 | thomas_adam | apt-spy, too. |
| 04:07.50 | g4lt | so now if it's misspelled, they're a dangerous fool, since there's been a security backport since then |
| 04:07.57 | simonrvn | fucking stupid warezer |
| 04:07.59 | thomas_adam | g4lt: hehehe... |
| 04:08.09 | thomas_adam | simonrvn: ? |
| 04:08.12 | guestish | simonrvn: yup |
| 04:08.15 | simonrvn | illogic-al |
| 04:08.19 | thomas_adam | :) |
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| 04:08.26 | thomas_adam | illogic-al: FUCK OFF. |
| 04:08.32 | simonrvn | "full copy" of a debian cd? |
| 04:08.32 | aztecinc | somiaj: doing that now |
| 04:08.37 | illogic-al | bob2, how did you get me to leave!? |
| 04:08.44 | illogic-al | did you hack my box!? |
| 04:08.46 | marcst | oh boy... |
| 04:08.52 | guestish | !smack illogic-al |
| 04:08.55 | LoRez | illogic-al: yes, he did. |
| 04:08.58 | illogic-al | thomas_adam, biite me |
| 04:08.59 | streuner | illogic-al: read www.debian.org - we aren't brainwashed anymore... |
| 04:08.59 | g4lt | now of course, WTF is the full version of Debian? |
| 04:09.00 | LoRez | I shall do it now. |
| 04:09.02 | thomas_adam | simonrvn: please ban him. |
| 04:09.07 | simonrvn | illogic-al: stfu, and go to the site. and get your head out of the warez gutter and wak the fuck up. plskthxbye |
| 04:09.13 | simonrvn | wake* |
| 04:09.17 | *** part/#debian illogic-al (~fubar@uhartford240007.hartford.edu) |
| 04:09.39 | marcst | can't decide if he/she/it is for real or just trolling... |
| 04:09.41 | guestish | i cant believe he doesnt even know what being kicked is... |
| 04:09.44 | gcbirzan | That was priceless. |
| 04:09.48 | *** mode/#debian [+o LoRez] by ChanServ |
| 04:09.48 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@*.hartford.edu] by LoRez |
| 04:09.48 | *** mode/#debian [-o LoRez] by LoRez |
| 04:09.48 | gravity | Amazing |
| 04:09.59 | thomas_adam | That's better. :) |
| 04:10.13 | g4lt | they make them REALLY dumb in hartford now |
| 04:10.15 | guestish | come on, dont ban a university for one bad egg |
| 04:10.22 | thomas_adam | LoRez: Hmm, You've banned a whole Uni there. |
| 04:10.32 | LoRez | thomas_adam: no kidding? really? |
| 04:10.36 | simonrvn | not his fault. look at that hostname |
| 04:10.46 | thomas_adam | LoRez: :p |
| 04:10.51 | felipe | what is the command to list the possible groups? |
| 04:10.56 | thomas_adam | easy "mistake" to make, I gyess |
| 04:10.58 | simonrvn | LoRez: is that irony? ;) |
| 04:10.59 | thomas_adam | getent groups |
| 04:11.02 | guestish | dynamic? |
| 04:11.07 | LoRez | simonrvn: sarcasm :) |
| 04:11.16 | thomas_adam | getent group |
| 04:11.17 | simonrvn | LoRez: uh, yeh my bad :) |
| 04:11.19 | thomas_adam | even |
| 04:11.25 | aztecinc | somiaj: could you repost the bit on updating the kernel with apt so I can add it to my notes |
| 04:11.25 | g4lt | felipe export EDITOR='"view" && vigr |
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| 04:11.45 | felipe | g4lt thx! |
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| 04:11.51 | simonrvn | oh boy |
| 04:12.09 | guestish | simonrvn: ? |
| 04:12.15 | somiaj | aztecinc: apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-1-686 (note you can also install off of a 2.4.18 kernel, its just not the default action in the woody installer) |
| 04:12.29 | simonrvn | guestish: sssh |
| 04:12.47 | guestish | simonrvn: sssh? is that a more secure version of ssh? |
| 04:12.57 | aztecinc | somiaj: Thanks BRB need a smoke before I go batty |
| 04:12.57 | LoRez | super secure shell |
| 04:13.04 | simonrvn | stupidly secure shell. yes it is |
| 04:13.13 | guestish | heh |
| 04:13.18 | felipe | the sound grupo is called sound as it is? |
| 04:13.24 | simonrvn | no |
| 04:13.26 | guestish | the more sses the better |
| 04:13.27 | jpeg | heh: illogic-al (~fubar@uhartford240007.hartford.edu) has joined #slackware |
| 04:13.27 | simonrvn | audio |
| 04:13.28 | somiaj | aztecinc: ok I may or may not be around (Debaiting getting some beer), so just ask away if ya need anymore assitance getting that new kernel installed. |
| 04:13.35 | felipe | ah! thx! |
| 04:13.45 | simonrvn | jpeg: i smell troll |
| 04:13.54 | felipe | so adduser <existinguser> audio will work? |
| 04:14.01 | jpeg | simonrvn, I'll let you know |
| 04:14.04 | simonrvn | try it |
| 04:14.07 | felipe | k |
| 04:14.10 | thomas_adam | felipe: yes, that *is* what the man page says. |
| 04:14.12 | simonrvn | jpeg: sure |
| 04:14.20 | felipe | lol...Im reading it |
| 04:14.26 | simonrvn | read it more |
| 04:14.28 | thomas_adam | felipe: No, I don't think you are. |
| 04:14.40 | felipe | I am! |
| 04:14.41 | thomas_adam | Or if you are, you are not understanding it. |
| 04:14.48 | felipe | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:14.58 | felipe | im here right now |
| 04:14.59 | simonrvn | read it slowly if you need to do that. |
| 04:15.13 | thomas_adam | There, there. It's ok, felipe. |
| 04:15.17 | simonrvn | brb |
| 04:15.19 | thomas_adam | lol |
| 04:15.22 | thomas_adam | wet one/ |
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| 04:15.52 | felipe | cause I am reading and things are coming to my mind and I cant avoid asking it |
| 04:16.25 | JimButton | felipe: that is a good sign, your brain seems to be working... |
| 04:16.29 | thomas_adam | felipe: I know what you mean, but the best thing you can do, is to experiment with it, using a *dummy* user that you have created. |
| 04:16.54 | thomas_adam | i.e.: "adduser dummy". |
| 04:16.57 | thomas_adam | and then: |
| 04:17.02 | thomas_adam | adduser dummy audio |
| 04:17.04 | guestish | how about user foobar |
| 04:17.06 | thomas_adam | etc, etc. |
| 04:17.15 | thomas_adam | guestish: nah, "dummy" will do. |
| 04:17.39 | felipe | I just realized that my sound is not working on kernel 2.6 cause I did not add my user to the audio group...See? I am getting smart! |
| 04:17.41 | guestish | that user must be a real dummy |
| 04:17.53 | thomas_adam | !bless felipe |
| 04:17.54 | dpkg | O $DEITY, bless our child felipe, who is about to do something stupid and needs all the help you can give. Amen. |
| 04:18.03 | Invisible_Optiks | bob2: I've been googling around for ways to do it using apt-get, yeah I've looked at the documentation of it for building it from the tarballs but as for apt-getting it all, I got nothing. Does Apache need mod_mysql even though it is php that is doing the work? |
| 04:18.15 | felipe | lol |
| 04:18.16 | thomas_adam | Invisible_Optiks: Yes. |
| 04:18.22 | thomas_adam | felipe: :) |
| 04:18.23 | felipe | dpkg Am I? |
| 04:18.24 | g4lt | dondelelcaro it was REALLY depressed? |
| 04:18.28 | dpkg | felipe: i haven't a clue |
| 04:18.37 | dondelelcaro | g4lt: I guess.. it died in putchar() |
| 04:18.43 | felipe | dpkg u scare this noob |
| 04:18.44 | dpkg | felipe: bugger all, i dunno |
| 04:18.47 | cafuego | Oh ffs, ok then |
| 04:18.56 | g4lt | dondelelcaro ooh, buffer o'flow ;) |
| 04:19.01 | thomas_adam | felipe: You're talking to a bot, you know. |
| 04:19.10 | felipe | u guys are funny |
| 04:19.12 | felipe | am I? |
| 04:19.18 | g4lt | thomas_adam spoilsport |
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| 04:19.23 | streuner | dpkg, what are you? |
| 04:19.23 | dpkg | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
| 04:19.28 | cafuego | Invisible_Optiks: No, apt-cache search would show you the 'php4-mysql' package. |
| 04:19.29 | dondelelcaro | g4lt: could be... unfortunatly, I don't have it built without strip |
| 04:19.39 | debian | dpkg owner |
| 04:19.39 | dpkg | dondelelcaro |
| 04:19.42 | g4lt | dpkg what does felipe pay you for |
| 04:19.43 | dpkg | sometimes felipe pays me for foot massages, g4lt, but I'm open to suggestions! |
| 04:19.44 | thomas_adam | g4lt: I'd love to be around when some fool thinks dpkg and/or apt are real... |
| 04:19.44 | cafuego | dpkg, what does streuner pay you for? |
| 04:19.45 | dpkg | sometimes streuner pays me for unspeakably disgusting actions, cafuego, but I've really had enough... |
| 04:19.48 | guestish | dpkg, who owns you? |
| 04:19.49 | dpkg | dondelelcaro does |
| 04:19.49 | felipe | dpkg hi there bot |
| 04:19.50 | thomas_adam | or has that happened already? |
| 04:19.50 | dpkg | Many greetings, there bot, most strange traveller, to this IRCdom of plenty. |
| 04:20.02 | simonrvn | haha |
| 04:20.07 | cafuego | !petasmite g4lt |
| 04:20.12 | somiaj | !botsnack |
| 04:20.12 | dpkg | somiaj: thanks |
| 04:20.18 | Invisible_Optiks | cafuego: gah, I have read about that by I kinda dismissed it as being the not very good solution but that's my best bet is what you are saying? |
| 04:20.20 | thomas_adam | ok, ok... |
| 04:20.25 | felipe | !botsnack |
| 04:20.26 | dpkg | felipe: :) |
| 04:20.26 | thomas_adam | enough bot abuse. |
| 04:20.30 | guestish | @cookie |
| 04:20.34 | bob2 | Invisible_Optiks: huh? install apache, php4 and php4-mysql. |
| 04:20.36 | felipe | dpkg: I like u! |
| 04:20.37 | dpkg | wish i knew, felipe |
| 04:20.42 | bob2 | Invisible_Optiks: read their README's and README.Debian's |
| 04:20.45 | cafuego | Invisible_Optiks: if you want apache+php/mysql, you run 'apt-get install apache php4 php4-mysql' |
| 04:20.50 | bob2 | #debian-botsd, thanks... |
| 04:20.55 | debian | !8ball people will stop abusing bots right now |
| 04:20.56 | dpkg | I'm not sure. |
| 04:20.58 | felipe | dpkg what is debian? |
| 04:21.01 | cafuego | Invisible_Optiks: it's not hard. |
| 04:21.03 | dpkg | felipe: I think you lost me on that one |
| 04:21.10 | thomas_adam | felipe: enough! |
| 04:21.12 | bob2 | #debian-bots, please. |
| 04:21.17 | somiaj | felipe: if you enjoy talking to dpkg, /msg dpkg <blah> |
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| 04:21.20 | dondelelcaro | g4lt: hrm... it died again... gues it is time to build it without nostrip... |
| 04:21.28 | Invisible_Optiks | cafuego: but not apt-get install apache php4 mysql-server? That's what I've been trying to do. |
| 04:21.31 | felipe | lol....sorry guys |
| 04:21.37 | thomas_adam | Simple things, please simple people... |
| 04:21.48 | cafuego | Invisible_Optiks: If you need a local mysql server, yes you need mysql-server as well. |
| 04:21.54 | agney | how can I share a screen ? |
| 04:22.02 | felipe | in fact I have seen some bots made w/ php |
| 04:22.02 | simonrvn | thomas_adam: KISS |
| 04:22.21 | LoRez | agney: screen -X or -x iirc |
| 04:22.21 | thomas_adam | Keep It Simple Stupid? Or was that a real one? :/ |
| 04:22.28 | bob2 | a php bot, ew. |
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| 04:22.31 | simonrvn | yes, that's a real one |
| 04:22.42 | g4lt | thomas_adam Kings In Satan's Service |
| 04:22.45 | thomas_adam | bob2: You know of the bot that was written in bash, right? |
| 04:22.47 | simonrvn | (keep it simple stupid) |
| 04:22.51 | thomas_adam | g4lt: heh. |
| 04:23.10 | felipe | ow...thats bad.... |
| 04:23.13 | felipe | tooo bad |
| 04:23.22 | felipe | The user `felipe' is already a member of audio. |
| 04:23.30 | aztecinc | g4lt: That is Knights in Satans Service |
| 04:23.47 | g4lt | aztecinc the KISStory says kings |
| 04:23.49 | felipe | so audio is not working indeed |
| 04:23.58 | thomas_adam | felipe: Seeing as you like reading, see "man newgrp" as well. |
| 04:24.17 | thomas_adam | felipe: what kernel version? ("uname -r") |
| 04:24.19 | g4lt | aztecinc that means presumable ace, paul, etc signed off on that version |
| 04:24.21 | felipe | is it true that only ALSA can get sound out of kernel 2.6? |
| 04:24.22 | aztecinc | Kisstory is wrong... I was there to witness the originals |
| 04:24.34 | thomas_adam | felipe: OSS can be used, but is considered deprecated. |
| 04:24.45 | felipe | 2.6.3-1-386 |
| 04:24.52 | thomas_adam | stock kernel...yuck. |
| 04:24.53 | g4lt | aztecinc KISStory cane with the double platinum album.... |
| 04:24.57 | somiaj | felipe: no 2.6 has OSS and ALSA in it, but there is no more support for OSS and it will probably go out int he next major kernel release. |
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| 04:25.16 | JimButton | yeah, they play "blame canada" in the radio here... |
| 04:25.25 | thomas_adam | JimButton: :) |
| 04:25.36 | karsten | Anyone familiar with a printing quota management system for controlling what users can access a printer *and* how much they can print? |
| 04:25.42 | JimButton | they are surely responsible for the terrible weather here... |
| 04:25.45 | felipe | thomas_adam: what u mean "stock kernel">? |
| 04:25.51 | thomas_adam | karsten: See the cups documentation. |
| 04:26.00 | guestish | mr illogic-al troll has entered #fedora land |
| 04:26.04 | g4lt | karsten ISTR mention of quotas in cups.... |
| 04:26.12 | felipe | somiaj: ok! ALSA did not list my sound card so... |
| 04:26.14 | thomas_adam | felipe: A kernel compiled already for a set architecture. |
| 04:26.21 | somiaj | felipe: what sound card? |
| 04:26.26 | thomas_adam | lspci |
| 04:26.26 | felipe | cmi8330 |
| 04:26.31 | thomas_adam | ahh |
| 04:26.35 | felipe | ? |
| 04:26.44 | karsten | thomas_adam: galt: I was looking at that yesterday. Nothing leapt at me. |
| 04:26.49 | streuner | guestish: her/his nick makes sence now :-) |
| 04:26.49 | felipe | what u guys know? |
| 04:27.00 | thomas_adam | karsten: It did for me, but it might also be in the samba docs, too. |
| 04:27.04 | guestish | streuner: hows that |
| 04:27.06 | g4lt | karsten it's in the web interface in admin |
| 04:27.11 | bob2 | hm, anyone know a simple way to make xterm use non-ugly colours? |
| 04:27.18 | bob2 | the Eterm defaults are far nicer |
| 04:27.20 | karsten | @tell felipe about u |
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| 04:27.26 | thomas_adam | bob2: ~/.Xdefaults ? |
| 04:27.30 | g4lt | bob2 --fg and --bg |
| 04:27.32 | JimButton | bob2: xterm -bg ... -fg ... |
| 04:27.34 | somiaj | bob2: .Xresources or .Xdefaults |
| 04:27.35 | karsten | bob2: xterm -fg black -bg black |
| 04:27.36 | streuner | guestish: confuse-all would be better then ;-) |
| 04:27.41 | JimButton | karsten: lol |
| 04:27.44 | bob2 | it's a black background and a white foreground |
| 04:27.46 | bob2 | that's easy |
| 04:27.50 | guestish | streuner: heh |
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| 04:28.00 | bob2 | but the actual colours used are butt ugly and bold |
| 04:28.00 | Supaplex | hummnn.. |
| 04:28.14 | felipe | thomas_adam: my cmi8330 is not supported indeed? |
| 04:28.20 | thomas_adam | felipe: I believe it is. |
| 04:28.23 | bob2 | also, ctrl-<leftarrow> sends some weird char that inserts crap instead of jumping back by a word |
| 04:28.27 | JimButton | bob2: what do you mean, the actual colors are not black and white? |
| 04:28.33 | karsten | bob2: AFAIK it's possible to modify the XRDB color resources to change the ANSI colorset, but I've never looked at that. |
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| 04:28.39 | thomas_adam | bob2: that could be because you have numlock on. |
| 04:28.45 | karsten | bob2: You talking like the 'ls color=auto' colorset? |
| 04:28.47 | felipe | can sound work on 2.6 w/ SB? |
| 04:29.02 | bob2 | JimButton: no, the other colours, e.g. red |
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| 04:29.07 | streuner | guestish: somebody who asked in #debian 'where can i get a full version of debian' confuse me at least! :-) |
| 04:29.09 | JimButton | bob2: oh, gotcha |
| 04:29.14 | bob2 | thomas_adam: hm, I did, but turning it off doesn't help |
| 04:29.16 | JimButton | bob2: no idea how to fix that |
| 04:29.22 | guestish | streuner: i thought it was humorous :) |
| 04:29.24 | bob2 | karsten: yeah, hence the "simple" :) |
| 04:29.32 | guestish | streuner: gives newb a whole new meaning |
| 04:29.32 | bob2 | felipe: my sblive works great |
| 04:29.37 | karsten | bob2: Colored glasses? |
| 04:29.37 | JimButton | bob2: i love ugly colors, so i never change any defaults... |
| 04:29.49 | felipe | bob2: w/ alsa? |
| 04:29.55 | bob2 | JimButton: yeah, I'm not surprised :P |
| 04:29.57 | bob2 | felipe: hell no |
| 04:30.08 | thomas_adam | bob2: If nothing is defined in ~/.Xdefaults, check that you have ncurses-base up to date. |
| 04:30.10 | felipe | bob2: SB? |
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| 04:30.21 | bob2 | felipe: as I said, an sb live card. |
| 04:30.22 | JimButton | bob2: smoke some dope, then the colors will seem like totally ok :) |
| 04:30.28 | bob2 | JimButton: hahaha |
| 04:30.35 | felipe | bob2: im noob sorry |
| 04:30.44 | thomas_adam | felipe: we noticed, matey. |
| 04:30.59 | bob2 | felipe: eh, what does that have to do with anything? |
| 04:31.00 | felipe | i am still getting into things |
| 04:31.03 | bob2 | felipe: what card do you have? |
| 04:31.04 | karsten | @noob |
| 04:31.05 | ravenbird | Don't bother telling us you're a "newb" or a "n00b". We can tell. |
| 04:31.10 | karsten | @sunday |
| 04:31.10 | felipe | cmi8330 |
| 04:31.10 | ravenbird | Sunday is the day all freaks swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane. |
| 04:31.24 | bob2 | it's monday here |
| 04:31.25 | thomas_adam | hehehehe |
| 04:31.29 | bob2 | and everyone should be using my timezone |
| 04:31.31 | thomas_adam | Same here: 05:35am. |
| 04:31.38 | bob2 | BOBST |
| 04:31.39 | felipe | ravenbird: dun be mad |
| 04:31.40 | ravenbird | felipe: je le sais pas, pourrait-tu me l'expliquer? |
| 04:31.48 | Twitching_Fool | not really a debian problem but...when i try to take the md5sum of this 2.3gig file, i get "File too large", though cksum works fine. i find it somewhat hard to believe that md5sum cant do a 2.3 gig file though, considering dvd images are notably bigger :/ |
| 04:31.48 | somiaj | bob2: under the .Xdefaults you can set things like boldColors, colorAttrMode (you can use to override ANSI colors), and varrious other options. |
| 04:32.09 | felipe | ravenbird: je NE sais pas my friend |
| 04:32.09 | ravenbird | parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, felipe |
| 04:32.28 | thomas_adam | felipe: tu ne said pas quoi? |
| 04:32.54 | felipe | thomas_adam: lol...hold dun mix things |
| 04:33.27 | bob2 | Twitching_Fool: no, supproting large files requires a concious effort |
| 04:33.31 | bob2 | which didn't happen in woody |
| 04:33.36 | bob2 | if it'snot fixed in sid, file a bug |
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| 04:33.51 | simonrvn | it's snot? |
| 04:33.53 | felipe | thomas_adam: I put sb into modules file and it seemed to load my sound card right, but no sound is heard |
| 04:34.07 | thomas_adam | felipe: alsactl ? |
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| 04:34.19 | bob2 | somiaj: yeah, I was hoping there was soem single setting to twiddle, remappign them all is more than I can be bothered to do... |
| 04:34.26 | bob2 | felipe: /msg dpkg audio |
| 04:34.28 | felipe | thomas_a what is the ctl after? |
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| 04:34.59 | dogayonv | Im trying to mount my fat32 windows drive in linux, Im dual booting I have in my fstab /dev/hda1 /windows noauto,user,rw 0 1 but it keeps saying its read only file system. What am I doing wrong? |
| 04:35.20 | somiaj | bob2: find someone else who has done it and copy their .Xdefaults ...(: |
| 04:35.20 | bob2 | "it" keeps saying it? |
| 04:35.24 | bob2 | what is "it"? |
| 04:35.26 | bob2 | somiaj: hah |
| 04:35.28 | karsten | dogayonv: Post command and output. |
| 04:35.39 | karsten | dogayonv: what's output of 'mount \ |
| 04:35.42 | dogayonv | what do you mean I dont understand karsten |
| 04:35.43 | karsten | dogayonv: what's output of 'mount | grep hda1' |
| 04:35.50 | felipe | bob2: can I apply those info to 2.6? |
| 04:35.50 | dogayonv | k |
| 04:36.04 | bob2 | felipe: it's exactly the same, yeah |
| 04:36.15 | Supaplex | what's the tcpdump syntax to show inet6 traffic only? |
| 04:36.27 | dogayonv | it says /dev/hda1 on /windows type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) |
| 04:36.35 | LoRez | Supaplex: proto ip6 |
| 04:36.37 | felipe | by the way, my debian is sarge from installer 4 |
| 04:36.40 | karsten | dogayonv: It's rw. It's not r/o. |
| 04:36.48 | karsten | dogayonv: You've probably got a permissions problem. |
| 04:37.03 | karsten | dogayonv: You have a group 'floppy' or 'vfat' on your system? |
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| 04:37.16 | Supaplex | ty LoRez proto ipv6 works. :) |
| 04:37.17 | LoRez | Supaplex: minus the proto |
| 04:37.30 | dogayonv | I didnt create one but maybe there is one, Im root the permission still affect me? |
| 04:37.33 | karsten | dogayonv: Solution: create or join a group that has r/w access to your vfat partition(s). Add your primary user(s) to that group. |
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| 04:37.44 | karsten | dogayonv: mount the partition similarly to the following: /dev/sda /mnt/floppy vfat user,gid=floppy,umask=0007 0 0 |
| 04:37.45 | LoRez | just 'tcpdump ip6' works fine |
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| 04:37.56 | karsten | dogayonv: ...that's my floppy mount line from /etc/fstab. |
| 04:37.58 | Supaplex | *nod* appears to as well. |
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| 04:38.06 | dogayonv | k |
| 04:38.09 | karsten | dogayonv: You'll have to log out and back in again to join the new group if you're not already a member. |
| 04:38.12 | dogayonv | I will try it, thanks alot for your help |
| 04:38.12 | felipe | I am afraid of screwing something up |
| 04:38.16 | karsten | dogayonv: NP. |
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| 04:39.16 | felipe | well...gotta go bed...thx guys |
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| 04:39.24 | felipe | and sorry |
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| 04:40.31 | AfgBaby | is there a way to get a i686 built version of debian? possibly from debootstrap? |
| 04:40.37 | bob2 | AfgBaby: no |
| 04:40.46 | AfgBaby | bah |
| 04:40.56 | bob2 | bah? |
| 04:41.04 | Supaplex | mooo |
| 04:41.06 | bob2 | provide SOME evidence that it matters |
| 04:41.06 | AfgBaby | yes bah |
| 04:41.08 | AfgBaby | heh |
| 04:41.08 | thomas_adam | CryBaby? |
| 04:41.10 | bob2 | nobody ever has |
| 04:41.26 | AfgBaby | it doesnt matter, I just wanted one if I could get one |
| 04:41.34 | maher | AfgBaby: pbuilder |
| 04:41.38 | bob2 | the kernel and glibc are already covered |
| 04:41.44 | thomas_adam | felipe seems like a satisfied guy - we should have him stuffed. |
| 04:41.46 | bob2 | so is openssl and atlas |
| 04:41.52 | Invisible_Optiks | cafuego: I installed php4-mysql but now I've run into the problem of no php scripts working? Is there more that I am supposed to configure? also my Apache modules doesn't contain a mod_php--which freaks me out. |
| 04:41.56 | AfgBaby | just the mindset of knowing the distro is built for just newer hardware is a good one since Im not using old hardware |
| 04:42.10 | bob2 | the mindest? heh. |
| 04:42.23 | thomas_adam | AfgBaby: ah, pity you. |
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| 04:42.30 | thomas_adam | !comfort AfgBaby |
| 04:42.31 | dpkg | There, there, AfgBaby. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 04:42.35 | maher | Invisible_Optiks: read the README in /usr/doc/php |
| 04:42.56 | Invisible_Optiks | thank you |
| 04:43.00 | guestish | how longs do bans last usually? |
| 04:43.11 | somiaj | AfgBaby: for most there will be little differnce, but if you would like to build things for your hardwear you can build your own packages...(: |
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| 04:43.19 | bob2 | until someone is satisfied that said idiot will not do it again |
| 04:43.21 | thomas_adam | or install gentoo |
| 04:43.23 | g4lt | guestish until an op wants to houseclean |
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| 04:43.47 | guestish | g4lt: im guessing many months |
| 04:43.57 | bob2 | it depends |
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| 04:44.08 | bob2 | if someone asks, it's usually removed right away. if it's serious, it stays forever. |
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| 04:44.12 | AfgBaby | somiaj: ya I know, havnt got around 2 tryin deb-src yet |
| 04:44.22 | bob2 | if it's none of those, what g4lt said |
| 04:44.26 | marcst | speaking as one who appreciates the longevity afforded hardware by linux generally, i prefer the mindset that keeps old hardware useful. |
| 04:44.29 | Invisible_Optiks | maher: except that I don't have that apparently :-/ |
| 04:44.49 | maher | Invisible_Optiks: replace php by the name of your php package |
| 04:45.18 | Invisible_Optiks | maher: Nothing |
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| 04:45.53 | somiaj | AfgBaby: /msg dpkg simple sid backport, that will give ya simple guide line if your intersted...(: |
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| 04:46.10 | maher | Invisible_Optiks: look in the dir and see if you are inspired - maybe its called php4 |
| 04:46.13 | AfgBaby | thx |
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| 04:47.41 | Invisible_Optiks | maher: That's what I mean, nothing in the directory has php in it that I can see. Any ideas of the where it might hide? Like someplace else I could try looking. |
| 04:48.02 | AfgBaby | there isnt a way to debootstrap but from source? (was just thinkin) |
| 04:48.15 | maher | Invisible_Optiks: i have a /usr/doc/php4/README.Debian.gz do you? |
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| 04:49.28 | Invisible_Optiks | maher: no |
| 04:49.46 | maher | Invisible_Optiks: what version of debian an dphp |
| 04:49.51 | ayibobo | help with fonts -- mozilla looks cazy |
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| 04:51.34 | ayibobo | m |
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| 04:54.01 | Invisible_Optiks | maher: Debian Sarge I just apt-get installed apache, php4, and then php4-mysql, I'm trying to apt-get install myself apache php4, etc but I'm thinking that it might be easier to build from source as I keep hitting dead ends with this. But I really don't like building stuff from source so any help you can give me on this is greatly appreciated. |
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| 04:55.37 | bob2 | Invisible_Optiks: /usr/share/doc/php4/README.Debian.gz |
| 04:55.45 | bob2 | maher: /usr/doc has been deprecated since like potato |
| 04:55.46 | maher | Invisible_Optiks: dpkg -L php4 should list all the files in php4 |
| 04:56.11 | maher | bob2: usr/doc should be a symlink to /usr/share/doc |
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| 04:56.20 | aztecinc | somiaj: I get this message "you need to add an 'initrd=/initrd.img' to the image=/vmlinuz stanza of your /etc/lilo.conf" |
| 04:56.23 | bob2 | maher: not in sarge |
| 04:56.44 | maher | bob2: oh - what is /usr/doc in sarge then? |
| 04:57.09 | mechan0r | deb package lines should be divided into channels and /var/lib/dpkg/info/ dhould become /var/lib/dpkg/info/channel |
| 04:57.15 | bob2 | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 May 9 16:51 /usr/doc/ |
| 04:57.37 | bob2 | mechan0r: dpkg needs an XML-RPC interface so we can stream i686-optimised packages via bittorrent |
| 04:57.49 | maher | bob2: well what's i it? and why isn't it a symlink to /usr/share/doc? |
| 04:58.07 | mechan0r | but but I use ppc |
| 04:58.10 | zignig | bob2: bittorrent would be cool, but _all_ the packages would have to be gpg signed. |
| 04:58.27 | Invisible_Optiks | acutally bob2: I do have it there, but not /usr/doc/php4/README.Debian.gz so let me chew on the manual for a bit before I bother you guys again |
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| 04:58.33 | mechan0r | i've found bittorent to be slower than apt |
| 04:58.59 | bob2 | maher: usr/doc is goign away once all packages have their stuff in /usr/share/doc |
| 04:58.59 | zignig | mechan0r: as usage goes up bittorrent gets faster. |
| 04:59.06 | zignig | mechan0r: its unslashdottable |
| 04:59.17 | aztecinc | somiaj: you stiill there? |
| 04:59.29 | mechan0r | how's it compare to freenet |
| 04:59.30 | maher | bob2: bah - what's the point of removing the symlink? so we all get to use a longer pathname? |
| 04:59.47 | zignig | mechan0r: freenet is a different kind of system. |
| 04:59.53 | bob2 | maher: FHS, baaaaybe |
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| 05:00.09 | bob2 | maher: /usr/share will only ever contain arch-independant stuff, so it can be shared between machines |
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| 05:01.00 | mechan0r | have they figured out how to make apache avoid the dreaded www-data user |
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| 05:01.32 | mechan0r | I keep having to change permissions all tht iem |
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| 05:01.48 | biohazrd | is there an easy way to determine what the current resolution of X is? |
| 05:01.57 | mechan0r | xdyinfo |
| 05:02.00 | mechan0r | er |
| 05:02.05 | Nurbs | mechan0r: why would one want to avoid it? |
| 05:02.06 | mechan0r | xdpyinfo |
| 05:02.07 | bob2 | biohazrd: xdpyinfo |
| 05:02.22 | bob2 | mechan0r: what are you whinging about? you don't want apache to run as www-data? |
| 05:02.36 | Nurbs | mechan0r: you can of course run it as root, if you are happy with that :) |
| 05:02.55 | biohazrd | ah thanks |
| 05:03.12 | biohazrd | it didnt look like 1400x1050 |
| 05:03.14 | mechan0r | --->I keep having to change permissions so apache can read stuff in ~/public_html |
| 05:03.42 | Invisible_Optiks | bob2L Ok, the first like step in the readme is to uncomment load module and then the php module, however, I can't find that line in either modules.conf or my httpd.conf so should I just add it? (my modules.conf warns me not to maually edit it but to run such and such program, but that program didn't change the file at all.) |
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| 05:04.03 | bob2 | mechan0r: so fix your umask so it makes fiels world-readable |
| 05:04.17 | mechan0r | hmm |
| 05:04.23 | Crimguy | dumb question: where's the default download directory for cvs |
| 05:04.23 | bob2 | Invisible_Optiks: what does "dpkg -l php4 | tail -n1" print out? |
| 05:04.28 | mechan0r | i knew you were going to say that |
| 05:04.31 | bob2 | Crimguy: the current directory |
| 05:04.43 | Crimguy | hmmm. thx bob |
| 05:04.54 | Invisible_Optiks | bob2:ii php4 4.3.4-4 A server-side, HTML-embedded scripting langu |
| 05:05.17 | bob2 | Invisible_Optiks: and "cat /etc/debian_version"? |
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| 05:06.20 | aztecinc | somiaj: ok I just updated the kernel, so I now should just be able to run modprobe radeo? |
| 05:06.39 | maher | bob2: keeping the /usr/doc symlink doesn't seem to conflict with the fhs |
| 05:07.11 | somiaj | aztecinc: did you do everything it said about the initrd image, and also reboot, after that you should be able to modprobe the module, though double check things before you reboot |
| 05:08.27 | mechan0r | usr/doc adds clutter |
| 05:08.27 | bob2 | maher: sure, but nothing should be installing stuff to /usr/doc |
| 05:09.01 | maher | bob2: that's true - but I don't see why we can't leave the symlink anyway |
| 05:09.24 | mechan0r | clutterous |
| 05:09.26 | bob2 | maher: you can leave anything you like, debian won't remove it |
| 05:09.38 | aztecinc | somiaj: ah crap........think it crashed |
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| 05:10.25 | maher | bob2: i have the symlink - i dont' see the advantage of removing it from base-files for new installs - maybe mechan0r's objection to clutter is the reason.... |
| 05:10.38 | Invisible_Optiks | bob2:testing/unstable |
| 05:11.06 | maher | Invisible_Optiks: try dpkg -L php4 - it should list the files |
| 05:11.08 | somiaj | aztecinc: hmm, be more percise, what crashed. |
| 05:11.45 | mechan0r | i have a ton of embedded and other arch populating /usr I don't want doc in there I'll think I've never heard of DOC architecture what kind of computer is that |
| 05:11.55 | Invisible_Optiks | yeah I see a list including the .so file, but yeah, what am I looking for? |
| 05:11.58 | aztecinc | somiaj: my box just crashed and unfortunately it is at another location |
| 05:12.33 | somiaj | aztecinc: why are you worrying about open gl stuff if your box is in a different location? |
| 05:12.58 | aztecinc | somiaj: game server |
| 05:13.08 | somiaj | aztecinc: you don't need open gl on a game server |
| 05:13.14 | somiaj | aztecinc: you just need open gl on the clients |
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| 05:13.29 | maher | Invisible_Optiks: you are looking for some php documentation |
| 05:13.43 | maher | Invisible_Optiks: hopefully containing the word README in its name |
| 05:13.43 | aztecinc | somiaj: Enemy Territory requires it |
| 05:14.07 | somiaj | aztecinc: umm, there is a way to install enemy territory with out X |
| 05:14.25 | somiaj | aztecinc: I've done it, you don't need opengl if you just want it to be a server |
| 05:14.26 | aztecinc | somiaj: really? |
| 05:14.34 | somiaj | aztecinc: yea, you needa patched insatller though |
| 05:14.42 | Invisible_Optiks | maher: Ok I'm way past that, I was reading the readme, and got stuck on step 1 because I don't have a line to uncomment out about the module in either httpd.conf or modules.conf |
| 05:14.59 | maher | Invisible_Optiks: add the line then |
| 05:15.28 | Invisible_Optiks | maher: Theres a big scary warning not to edit the file manually but to use there program, but that doesn't change the file. |
| 05:15.39 | maher | Invisible_Optiks: edit the file manually |
| 05:16.13 | aztecinc | somiaj: here I am making things difficult onmyself |
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| 05:17.24 | maher | Invisible_Optiks: you shouldn't be editting modules.conf |
| 05:18.19 | aztecinc | somiaj: ok where can I locate that particular download? |
| 05:18.37 | Twitching_Fool | bob2: heh, i think might have solved the md5sum large file problem, cat file|md5sum |
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| 05:20.13 | Invisible_Optiks | maher: whoa wait, so you want me to put that line in just the httpd.conf then? I already edited the modules.conf, but I'll change it back, can I put it anywhere in the httpd.conf because at the place that I think it would normally load the modules it has some code pointing towards modules.conf. Should I just add it to that area? |
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| 05:21.23 | maher | Invisible_Optiks: modules.conf is for kernel modules isn't it? what version of apache are you using? |
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| 05:22.36 | yUSiyE | i'd like to switch from fedora to debian |
| 05:22.48 | yUSiyE | where can i dl DVD version? |
| 05:23.09 | Twitching_Fool | yUSiyE: you could buy it |
| 05:23.10 | The_Vulture | why would you want to do that? |
| 05:23.14 | The_Vulture | just do a netinstall.. |
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| 05:23.28 | Invisible_Optiks | maher: I was playing with that modules.conf inside of /etc/apache/ but I suppose it could... be.. liek with the kernel? I have no idea. |
| 05:23.49 | Invisible_Optiks | However, I did put the line into httpd.conf and it seems to be working ^_^ w00t |
| 05:24.18 | maher | Invisible_Optiks: can you paste your http.conf into #flood |
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| 05:26.02 | yUSiyE | i'd have to have a media in my hand |
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| 05:27.06 | aztecinc | well all I must get to bed. |
| 05:27.42 | maher | yUSiyE: you can dl an iso or buy a cd from a vendor |
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| 05:28.05 | aztecinc | somiaj: thanks for you help loks like I will have a bit of work ahead of me tomorow LOL... thank God I did not have to much configured yet LOL |
| 05:28.20 | knoppix | hello gys |
| 05:29.08 | MdG_work | What's up George_Brucho |
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| 05:29.54 | jal- | why would removing sendmail affect apache (it removed it). |
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| 05:30.49 | George_Brucho | Brucho is witch in portuguese |
| 05:31.02 | marcst | jal-: cuz apache depends on having an mta? |
| 05:31.04 | bob2 | George_Brucho: #knoppix |
| 05:31.14 | marcst | not sure |
| 05:31.19 | bob2 | it does |
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| 05:32.11 | mohadib | hello |
| 05:32.13 | jal- | well, now i am trying to get apache going again and it says it needs libdb.so.2 which is installed.. ive got no idea what to do now |
| 05:32.44 | jal- | all the old apache config files are still there.. ?! |
| 05:32.55 | mohadib | if you had to choose one chipset to rule them all which one would it be ... im buying a new motherboard and am lloking for suggestions |
| 05:33.17 | aztecinc | somiaj: if you have that particular pathed installer for Enemy Territory could you please PM me on where I may get it. |
| 05:33.29 | mechan0r | pegososppc.com |
| 05:33.39 | ysothoth | ? |
| 05:33.45 | mohadib | dont need to much speed , no bells or whistels , just need stablity and work with my atlonxp 2000 processor |
| 05:33.59 | ysothoth | mechan0r :) |
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| 05:34.14 | mechan0r | avoid PC Chips brand |
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| 05:34.45 | aztecinc | avoid anything with a crystal fusion chipset on it |
| 05:34.50 | mohadib | mechan0r, yeah , when i saw there motherboards where the cheapest on pricewatch i decided to avoid them and syntax |
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| 05:35.40 | jal- | whats the best way to get apache going again when it's already installed and says it needs libdb.so.2 which is also installed. |
| 05:35.54 | Invisible_Optiks | maher: Sorry I had to go AFK for a second yeah I'll paste it in, though it does seem to be working now....... |
| 05:35.57 | cafuego | Avoid shitty cheap hardware, is what you're saying? |
| 05:36.03 | cafuego | I thought that was common knowledge. |
| 05:36.23 | mechan0r | some people don't knoqw who shitty is |
| 05:36.28 | mohadib | whatabout a via686b ? |
| 05:36.58 | guestish | mohadib: how about an intel series mobo, those are well supported |
| 05:36.59 | cafuego | mohadib: As in KT400? |
| 05:37.08 | guestish | i8xx |
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| 05:37.19 | Invisible_Optiks | maher: that made me sad |
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| 05:37.46 | mohadib | ok ... but i would have to use a intel processor ... right? |
| 05:37.47 | cafuego | guestish: They tend to not work very well with Athlons, so should be avoided as well. |
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| 05:37.56 | guestish | cafuego: oh, duh |
| 05:38.07 | cafuego | mohadib: If you want an athlon mobo, KT400 ones wotk fine. |
| 05:38.14 | guestish | forgot that, heh |
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| 05:38.32 | cafuego | mohadib: Mine's a Gigabyte GA-7VAXP, it works abolutely fine. |
| 05:38.35 | maher | Invisible_Optiks: try again |
| 05:39.23 | cafuego | mohadib: I doubt you can still buy those, so go the KT600 chipset |
| 05:39.26 | mohadib | thanks ... so i i go with a older gigabyte or asus board i should get very solid performance? |
| 05:39.37 | cafuego | mohadib: Or (really) get an Athlon64 |
| 05:39.43 | Invisible_Optiks | maher: It seemed like it booted me for pasting way too much, I'm not sure if #flood does in fact have a limit, can I throw it up to pastebin.com? |
| 05:39.51 | maher | Invisible_Optiks: ok |
| 05:39.54 | mohadib | i dont want anything new.... i want old and tested :) |
| 05:40.01 | cafuego | mohadib: yeah, mine's not new anymore, but it's rock solid. |
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| 05:40.39 | mohadib | and i dont want to start a war... but hard drive suggestions ? |
| 05:41.02 | cafuego | mohadib: Western Digital 8Mb cache 7200rpm anything |
| 05:41.13 | cafuego | mohadib: Fast and quiet. |
| 05:41.23 | mohadib | huh.. cafuego you have had good luck with wds ? |
| 05:41.25 | debian | cafuego: sata? |
| 05:41.30 | cafuego | debian: No. |
| 05:41.41 | cafuego | debian: sata is not "old and stable" |
| 05:41.59 | cafuego | mohadib: My desktop box has an 80Gb one of them, works fine. |
| 05:42.15 | cafuego | mohadib: The trick is to not get the 2Mb cache models. |
| 05:42.16 | debian | cafuego: any known stability issue with sata? I wanna buy one... |
| 05:42.32 | maher | Invisible_Optiks: ok - maybe they changed the apache config files - i have stable apache - putting stuff in modules.conf is fine |
| 05:42.32 | cafuego | debian: The install cds don't support it. |
| 05:42.42 | mohadib | huh i have had bad experience with wd in past... but thats true for most of the other hardrive brands too i guess.. |
| 05:42.52 | debian | cafuego: oic..but that's just driver issue right? |
| 05:42.52 | Invisible_Optiks | maher: Like it seems like it would, it doesn't throw and error or anything it just doesn't work. |
| 05:42.55 | cafuego | mohadib: How far in the past? |
| 05:43.07 | maher | Invisible_Optiks: what doesn't work |
| 05:43.08 | Invisible_Optiks | putting it in modules.conf that is |
| 05:43.08 | mohadib | uh... was proablly 2 years ago |
| 05:43.19 | cafuego | mohadib: yeah, these drives are newer. |
| 05:43.20 | maher | Invisible_Optiks: did you restart apache |
| 05:43.35 | mohadib | cafuego, well i should hope so ;) |
| 05:43.37 | cafuego | mohadib: i also have 2 *)Gb seagate drives, they're fine too, but a bit louder. |
| 05:43.54 | Invisible_Optiks | maher: Yeah I did, I'm good, it is working :) thank you so much |
| 05:44.05 | mohadib | cafuego, i have had mostly good luck with segate...was thinking of getteing a few new ones |
| 05:45.50 | PPPoE | debian heres a link on the state of dirvers for SATA http://www.linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html |
| 05:46.15 | PPPoE | Seagate is the only drive that has native SATA support |
| 05:46.41 | PPPoE | All others are IDE adapted |
| 05:46.44 | debian | PPPoE: thanks a lot |
| 05:47.20 | debian | PPPoE: actually. I'm shooting for a SATA hdd+an USB enclosure. |
| 05:47.23 | PPPoE | SATA 2 should be out in the next quarter and SATA 300 soon after |
| 05:47.35 | PPPoE | NP : ) |
| 05:47.49 | mechan0r | SATA 300? |
| 05:48.00 | cafuego | debian: wtf bother? usb and usb2 are way slower than sata |
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| 05:48.28 | PPPoE | The Silico Image chip is just about every where and not that flash in Linux yet |
| 05:49.08 | cafuego | debian: At least go the firewire enclosure |
| 05:49.30 | mechan0r | wtf adapt SATA to IDE wouldn't that remove all benefits |
| 05:49.50 | PPPoE | and the only South bridges that have SATA intergrated are the 8237 and 9 via and the latest Intel |
| 05:49.53 | cafuego | mechan0r: No |
| 05:50.10 | cafuego | mechan0r: Mainly because there aren't any anyway ;-) |
| 05:50.32 | mechan0r | there arent't so when will there be |
| 05:50.56 | cafuego | mechan0r: That's not the point, the point is that you upgrade so the manufacturers can sell more hardware. |
| 05:51.01 | mechan0r | this 600Mhz box gets tupid when apt and dpkg get to work |
| 05:51.17 | debian | cafuego: we're shooting for performance in this case. I just worried about the possible stablility issue we talk about. |
| 05:51.26 | PPPoE | Nforce 3 should as well. But Every thing else relys on the 133mbps pci bus... essay to flood with a raid 0 and only 2 drives |
| 05:51.26 | debian | cafuego: s/we're/we're not |
| 05:51.36 | cafuego | debian: if you want performance you use hardware raid |
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| 05:51.57 | debian | cafuego: sorry for the typo. :) |
| 05:51.57 | cafuego | debian: if you want _stability_ you go nowhere near SATA or USB harddrives. |
| 05:52.15 | cafuego | debian: Then you go out and purchace a scsi system |
| 05:52.44 | debian | cafuego: we've scsi system. but external scsi is too expensive |
| 05:52.45 | debian | hdd |
| 05:52.47 | mechan0r | you know only mac'ers call it secSI |
| 05:52.56 | PPPoE | Hey speeking of USB drives has any one had any luck with a fr-628a |
| 05:53.01 | cafuego | mechan0r: They do? |
| 05:53.15 | cafuego | debian: Just add one internally |
| 05:53.19 | mechan0r | yes mac'ers are turned off by scuzzy |
| 05:53.25 | cafuego | mechan0r: I am? |
| 05:53.58 | mechan0r | you're an anomaly and therefore irrelevant to the results of this tudy thank you |
| 05:54.00 | mechan0r | :) |
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| 05:54.22 | cafuego | mechan0r: And how long ago exactly was it that apple last sold a scsi based desktop machine? |
| 05:54.23 | PPPoE | fr-628a = Data One 3.5" external case |
| 05:54.28 | cafuego | mid 90's? |
| 05:54.58 | cafuego | PPPoE: I've only got a New Motion USB2 3.5 case |
| 05:55.02 | cafuego | PPPoE: But that works fine |
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| 05:55.58 | PPPoE | Thank cafuego how easy was it to get going? |
| 05:56.05 | cafuego | PPPoE: Plug in, mount |
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| 05:56.55 | PPPoE | So you don't need specific drivers for each USB drive case? |
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| 05:57.24 | cafuego | PPPoE: If you have a decent case you just use usb-storage over ehci-hcd |
| 05:57.34 | cafuego | ANd the scsi disk pops up as by magic |
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| 05:58.36 | cafuego | speaking of which |
| 05:58.42 | cafuego | I should decruft that drive |
| 06:00.03 | yUSiyE | i've a question before install debian |
| 06:00.15 | yUSiyE | can i burn the iso image download by jigdo? |
| 06:00.18 | PPPoE | So do you think there would be a reasonable chance of getting that $50 nz unit to talk? |
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| 06:00.27 | mechan0r | so what can I do in hdparm to make my hard drive perform better |
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| 06:03.19 | SEP | mechan0r, do you havce reason to belive your harddrive dont work optimal ? |
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| 06:03.49 | mechan0r | everything slows down when I run apt/dpkg |
| 06:04.01 | somiaj | aztecinc: if your still around, check out http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/et/ |
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| 06:04.38 | simonrvn | check out the faket hostname |
| 06:04.42 | simonrvn | fakey* |
| 06:05.32 | mechan0r | um no that's there |
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| 06:05.41 | SEP | check hdparm /dev/hda and see if dma is enables, enabling dma is the only thing iv been twideling with, |
| 06:05.57 | karsten | Well look what the tide's washed in. |
| 06:06.06 | SEP | and run hdparm -tT /dev/hda before and after every change to see performance |
| 06:06.16 | SEP | and do have _backups_! |
| 06:06.22 | xxxin | i installed cpanel package. when i startx again, no Chinese UI... |
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| 06:06.29 | SEP | you will destroy your data and possibly your harddrive and motherboard |
| 06:06.30 | SEP | ! |
| 06:06.50 | Whistleboy | any quick and easy way to see if the kernel reconizes a CD-RW drive and DVD drive? |
| 06:07.00 | karsten | Whistleboy: cat /var/log/dmesg |
| 06:07.02 | simonrvn | boot from it |
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| 06:07.41 | karsten | simonrvn: Who's that to? |
| 06:07.41 | simonrvn | same person |
| 06:07.41 | mechan0r | I don't plan on deregistering interfaces wiht hdparm anytime soon so I'll be fine |
| 06:08.00 | Whistleboy | karsten: I looked in there, and didn't see any mention, although my regular CD drive is in there. All appear to be cabled in correctly. |
| 06:08.01 | SEP | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:08.01 | SEP | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:08.01 | SEP | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:08.04 | SEP | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:08.19 | simonrvn | don't paste in here |
| 06:08.19 | SEP | does this mean i have no active mode ??? |
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| 06:08.32 | xxxin | cpanel require KDE? |
| 06:08.33 | karsten | Whistleboy: For CDRW, you may want... |
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| 06:08.43 | SEP | i guess i could have explained, it, but not as clearly as those 4 lines |
| 06:08.50 | somiaj | Whistleboy: check out dmesg and look for where it finds your ide devices, hdX... |
| 06:08.54 | simonrvn | xxxin: try google |
| 06:09.00 | karsten | hdc=ide-scs |
| 06:09.14 | karsten | Whistleboy: For CDRW, you may want... hdc=ide-scsi as a boot option. |
| 06:09.47 | karsten | Whistleboy: ...and... ide-scsi ide-probe-mod ide-mod kernel modules loaded. |
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| 06:10.03 | karsten | xxxin: You can check that via 'apt-cache show cpanel' and reading deps. |
| 06:10.14 | simonrvn | xxxin: BTW, that hostname you have won't score you points in here. maybe some wrath however |
| 06:10.16 | karsten | @tell sep about paste |
| 06:10.19 | Whistleboy | karsten: ok, I remember having to do that along time ago, and now I am using grub instead of lilo. I bet that is it. Where does the ide-scsi stuff go? |
| 06:11.01 | karsten | Whistleboy: My kopt line in /boot/grub/menu.lst reads: # kopt=root=/dev/hda2 ro vga=6 noapic hdc=ide-scsi |
| 06:11.13 | karsten | Whistleboy: Note the initial single '#' to comment the line. |
| 06:11.28 | xxxin | :D |
| 06:11.55 | simonrvn | galeon just crashed my x server. fuck |
| 06:12.20 | simonrvn | that's what you get for using the CVS in experimental ;) |
| 06:12.30 | debian | I think we've a lot of instances of apps crashing X cases. that's suck |
| 06:13.35 | karsten | simonrvn: What! Neutering Galeon? |
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| 06:13.36 | jm_ | is that galeon 1.3 ? |
| 06:13.44 | karsten | simonrvn: Isn't that redundant in 2.3.x? |
| 06:13.46 | Whistleboy | karsten: you are making sure I know NOT to comment it, right? And hdc=ide-scsi needs to be there? I thought recent kernels (2.6.3 is what I have) could handle CD-RWs as IDE? |
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| 06:13.53 | simonrvn | karsten: no, just downgrading to something more stable |
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| 06:14.01 | karsten | Whistleboy: No. You *do* comment it. |
| 06:14.15 | simonrvn | uh oh. aptitude just SEGVed |
| 06:14.29 | karsten | Whistleboy: 'update-grub' reads the signle-commented lines and uses them to update the menu.list file. |
| 06:14.31 | jm_ | time for more drastic measures ;) |
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| 06:14.45 | Whistleboy | karsten: there is nothing on my boot line now but the word "boot" with no "#" |
| 06:14.56 | karsten | Whistleboy: As it should be. |
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| 06:15.01 | Whistleboy | :q |
| 06:15.09 | Whistleboy | oops |
| 06:15.24 | karsten | Whistleboy: I was referring however to the 'kopt' line within the automatgic kernels list section. |
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| 06:15.32 | malice | haha i have that xterm problem with gentoo |
| 06:15.41 | malice | maybe the fix will work on that too |
| 06:15.50 | Twitching_Fool | use eterm :P |
| 06:16.01 | Whistleboy | karsten: ah, I see it. |
| 06:16.09 | simonrvn | new apt, hmm. buggy? |
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| 06:16.30 | malice | Twitching_Fool: whats the difference? |
| 06:17.04 | karsten | Whistleboy: Right. Slightly confuzzing. |
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| 06:17.25 | Ugly_Duck | any one use debmirror? |
| 06:17.32 | Whistleboy | I am new to grub |
| 06:17.44 | malice | im quite impressed with the sarge installer |
| 06:17.48 | karsten | Whistleboy: The texture's a bit different, but you *will* get used to the taste. |
| 06:17.50 | simonrvn | yeh, it's apt. time for reportbug |
| 06:18.20 | simonrvn | that's what crashed aptitude anyway... |
| 06:18.47 | Whistleboy | karsten: now, to figure out what the lines should be. I have a CDROM that is working as hdc. I am assuming the CD-RW is hdd, but not sure about DVD. |
| 06:19.29 | karsten | Whistleboy: Three devices? All IDE? |
| 06:19.29 | Whistleboy | karsten: where would the lilo equivalent be since it used to work and I probably figured it out then? |
| 06:19.29 | Twitching_Fool | malice: lol, just apt-get install eterm || emerge eterm and see :), eterms can be transparent :) |
| 06:19.34 | malice | cool |
| 06:19.46 | Whistleboy | karsten: yes. I have a mobo with lots of IDE ports on it. Right now I have two hard drives, a CDROM, CDRW, and DVD. |
| 06:19.52 | karsten | Whistleboy: When you run 'update-grub' for the first time, it should create a device mapping file. /boot/grub/device.map |
| 06:20.01 | Whistleboy | Not all were meant to live there forever! |
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| 06:20.37 | Whistleboy | karsten: that lists the floppy and hard drives only. |
| 06:20.38 | karsten | Whistleboy: Well, If you've got *two* HDs and *three* removeable devices, you've either got multiple ATA/IDE ports, or you've got a disconnected device. |
| 06:21.09 | karsten | Whistleboy: You can only have four devices on a standard MOBO IDE bus: Channel 1 master, channel 1 slave, channel 2 master, channel 2 slave. |
| 06:21.25 | malice | the whole apt-get system reminds me very much of the *BSD ports/packages system |
| 06:21.25 | karsten | Whistleboy: I'd look to the hardware connection level to see what you've actually got hooked up. |
| 06:21.37 | karsten | Whistleboy: If you want more devices, you need an add-in ATA accelerator card. |
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| 06:22.22 | Whistleboy | karsten: The mobo has lots of IDE ports on it. You can use them for RAID, but I haven't gotten that far yet. The DVD drive was meant to be temporary abou t a year ago :-) |
| 06:23.05 | Whistleboy | I did open it up and they all looked to be connected, but it probably is worth double checking, otherwise it will never work! |
| 06:23.17 | karsten | Whistleboy: OK. You need to check that your busses are all active. |
| 06:23.47 | Whistleboy | karsten: active as in BIOS settings? Or active in the sense that the kernel sees the devices on them? |
| 06:23.54 | debian | karsten: ATA accelerator card? |
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| 06:25.01 | zivilynbane | Anyone in here using optical out in debian? |
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| 06:25.58 | karsten | Whistleboy: Active as in kernel sees it. |
| 06:25.59 | zignig | zivilynbane: optical out on what ? |
| 06:26.13 | karsten | Whistleboy: Example from a box with three IDE channels: two onboard and one add-in. |
| 06:26.13 | bob2 | zivilynbane: it's not a debian issue, but probably |
| 06:26.17 | karsten | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:26.17 | karsten | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:26.21 | karsten | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:26.21 | karsten | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:26.36 | debian | PPPoE: finally I found it. It looks more stupid than its photo http://www.directron.com/cd309sata.html |
| 06:26.37 | karsten | Whistleboy: Make that four: two onboard, two add-in (single ATA card). |
| 06:26.39 | debian | whoops |
| 06:26.47 | karsten | debian: I believe so. Got a problem with that? |
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| 06:27.20 | Whistleboy | karsten: hmm, I am seeing only ide0 and ide1 |
| 06:27.23 | debian | karsten: just talk about external sata |
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| 06:27.53 | Whistleboy | karsten: is that from dmesg? I don't see anything like that. |
| 06:28.01 | karsten | debian: OK. Never got the terminology down. |
| 06:28.04 | karsten | Whistleboy: Yes, dmesg. |
| 06:28.08 | Whistleboy | karsten: never mind, there it is |
| 06:28.20 | Whistleboy | karsten: ide0: BM-DMA at 0xac00-0xac07, BIOS settings: hda:pio, hdb:pio |
| 06:28.22 | karsten | Whistleboy: Note: /var/log/dmesg. The kernel ring buffer's long flushed. |
| 06:28.40 | karsten | Whistleboy: I'd expect to see at least one more line, preferably three. |
| 06:28.53 | Whistleboy | karsten: ide1: BM-DMA at 0xac08-0xac0f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:pio |
| 06:29.35 | FieldySnuts | !what does karsten pay you for |
| 06:29.36 | dpkg | normally karsten insists on unspeakably disgusting actions, fieldysnuts, but I've really had enough... |
| 06:29.39 | Whistleboy | karsten: for each one? I also see ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 |
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| 06:30.08 | Whistleboy | karsten: I assume you mean I should be seeing ide2 ide3, etc. |
| 06:30.10 | karsten | Whistleboy: if you've got 5 devices, you need at least 5 channels |
| 06:30.29 | jm_ | 3 channels ;) |
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| 06:30.38 | debian | FieldySnuts: I'll make sure your photos get to CNN. :) |
| 06:30.49 | FieldySnuts | debian: again? |
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| 06:31.05 | Whistleboy | karsten: I have dealt with SCSI machines more than IDE. When you say channel, are you meaning primary vs. secondary, or both? |
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| 06:31.40 | debian | Whistleboy: SCSI has channel. :) |
| 06:31.46 | ricochet | What script file tells the window manager to start? |
| 06:31.54 | karsten | Whistleboy: Truth to tell, I'm a bit fuzzy on the specific nomenclature. |
| 06:31.59 | debian | ricochet: /etc/init.d/*dm |
| 06:32.11 | jm_ | ricochet: it depends on how you start X, but it's often Xsession file |
| 06:32.21 | karsten | Whistleboy: Whistleboy However, IDE channels come in pairs. Your onboard standard stuff is ide0 & ide1. |
| 06:32.39 | karsten | Whistleboy: So I'd expect you to have lines for that, plus ide2/3, in dmesg. |
| 06:32.55 | ricochet | jm_ i type startx whats an Xsession file, and where |
| 06:33.01 | jm_ | ricochet: ls /etc/X11 |
| 06:33.34 | rgrep | ricochet: there's also /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc which is called by startx |
| 06:33.44 | ricochet | ah ha! |
| 06:33.58 | Whistleboy | ok, and the hda, hdb maps onto ide0 and ide1 how again? (ide0=hda and hdb, ide1=hdc and hdd, etc.) |
| 06:33.58 | jm_ | default xinitrc just sources Xsession file |
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| 06:34.34 | Whistleboy | I realize this is silly stuff I should know, but I don't have to tweak my Debian machine very much, so I forget ! |
| 06:35.25 | Whistleboy | karsten: Could my problem be the BIOS is set for RAID and I am not trying to use it for RAID? |
| 06:35.42 | ricochet | jm_ rgrep, the reason i'm asking is because both kde and gone are running. i dont see anything in xinitrc or /etc/X11/Xsession ... |
| 06:36.51 | debian | gone sucks |
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| 06:37.14 | jm_ | ricochet: "gone" ? it first tries to start x-session-manager, read the script and other scripts it executes from /etc/X11/Xsession.d to understand how it works |
| 06:37.32 | ricochet | haha gnome :) |
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| 06:37.52 | jm_ | I can't see how it could start both unless you have told it so in ~/.xsession file |
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| 06:38.43 | ricochet | jm_ i dunno, I just apt-get install kde and restarted x and I had gnome and kde |
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| 06:41.13 | Guerin | How do I kill a defunct process? I have 3 running on my box, and theyn just won't die - tried kill with -9, -11, -15 as root and normal user, and they damn well just won't die |
| 06:41.30 | bob2 | are they in state "D"? |
| 06:41.33 | bob2 | then you can't kill them. |
| 06:41.38 | Guerin | bob2: state Z |
| 06:41.39 | displague | in a gnome-terminal I can type utf chars (©), I ssh to another linux system and I no longer can -- any ideas? is this an ssh limitation or do I have to run something on the remote terminal to enable utf? |
| 06:41.50 | jm_ | ricochet: that can't be |
| 06:41.50 | bob2 | Guerin: kill their parent |
| 06:41.53 | Guerin | pigeon 2730 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? Z 13:12 0:00 [giftd] <defunct> |
| 06:42.02 | rgrep | Guerin: They are already dead but are waiting for their parent to read their exit status. |
| 06:42.03 | bob2 | displague: it's not a ssh problem |
| 06:42.06 | guccio | ´ó¼ÒºÃ |
| 06:42.11 | ricochet | jm_ what can't? want a screenshot? |
| 06:42.40 | jm_ | ricochet: yes |
| 06:42.43 | Guerin | right, I'll try to figure out the parent and kill that |
| 06:42.55 | bob2 | ps auxf |
| 06:42.59 | bob2 | </hint> |
| 06:43.01 | ricochet | jm_ shift+printscreen? |
| 06:43.03 | displague | bob2: ok. any other thoughts? |
| 06:43.08 | rgrep | Guerin: Use ps -elf as it shows the parent process (PPID) |
| 06:43.08 | jm_ | ricochet: /msg dpkg screenshot |
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| 06:43.31 | bob2 | displague: the locale/software on the other end doesn't support it, maybe? |
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| 06:44.00 | SlayerXP | morning |
| 06:44.09 | carrett | hi, i added ntfs support as a module, and there is a directory /lib/modules/2.6.5/ntfs/, but modprobe ntfs complains that there's no such module...help? |
| 06:44.28 | bob2 | did you run depmod? |
| 06:44.33 | bob2 | are you actually running that kernel? |
| 06:44.36 | zignig | SlayerXP: greetings |
| 06:44.37 | carrett | i am |
| 06:44.41 | bob2 | ie does "uname -r" print 2.6.5 and NOTHING else? |
| 06:44.48 | carrett | yes |
| 06:44.49 | jm_ | morning SlayerXP |
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| 06:45.00 | SlayerXP | morning Goran, zig |
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| 06:45.18 | dyn | hi |
| 06:45.36 | dyn | anyone can help me troubleshooting a Matrox G450 with xfree86? i'd like to have DRI, and i DO have it, but seems i'm still on mesa.. |
| 06:45.39 | displague | bob2: its another debian system.. i ssh to it and within bash i can no longer type the chars - the "locales" package is installed - what else might i need? |
| 06:45.43 | dyn | OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org << that should display Matrox imho |
| 06:45.48 | Guerin | /j #flood |
| 06:45.52 | Guerin | damn |
| 06:45.54 | bob2 | displague: you need ot be using a utf-8 locale |
| 06:46.04 | bob2 | displague: if you can't figure it out, try the debian-user list |
| 06:46.06 | simonrvn | fuck |
| 06:46.21 | displague | bob2: danke |
| 06:47.05 | Zenethian | meh, anyone have a Thunderbird 0.6 build for debian |
| 06:47.11 | SlayerXP | i have something to do at 11am this morning |
| 06:47.11 | simonrvn | is ftp.debian.org up for anyone? |
| 06:47.15 | SlayerXP | I know it's important |
| 06:47.24 | SlayerXP | I cannot for the life in me recall what it is. |
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| 06:47.32 | jm_ | simonrvn: yes |
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| 06:47.39 | dae | hello all |
| 06:47.40 | simonrvn | ... |
| 06:47.47 | jm_ | SlayerXP: hehe, I use tkremind for such purposes |
| 06:47.54 | bob2 | simonrvn: it's round-robin'd to two machines, try the other one? |
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| 06:48.05 | SlayerXP | Connected to ftp.debian.org. |
| 06:48.05 | SlayerXP | 220 saens.debian.org FTP server (vsftpd) |
| 06:48.05 | SlayerXP | Name (ftp.debian.org:root): |
| 06:48.07 | simonrvn | bob2: IPs? |
| 06:48.23 | simonrvn | ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 |
| 06:48.30 | simonrvn | dig ftp.debian.org |
| 06:48.31 | bob2 | ftp.debian.org has address 208.185.25.35 |
| 06:48.31 | bob2 | ftp.debian.org has address 128.101.80.131 |
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| 06:48.34 | Guerin | bob2/rgrep: that nailed it, thanks |
| 06:48.34 | simonrvn | danke |
| 06:48.49 | jm_ | gah stupid tab characters in output ;) |
| 06:48.52 | carrett | bob2: sorry, i lied, /lib/modules2.6.5/build/ntfs/ exists, NOT /lib/modules/2.6.5/ntfs/...could that be why? |
| 06:49.18 | bob2 | um |
| 06:49.23 | bob2 | that's a directory, nto a module |
| 06:49.42 | SlayerXP | lordy |
| 06:49.42 | dae | does anybody know what 'Fatal server error: Caught signal 11. Server aborting' means in X? I get that after X has been idle for about half an hour. Any info please? |
| 06:49.47 | bob2 | find /lib/modules/$(uname -r) -type f | grep ntfs |
| 06:49.48 | SlayerXP | unstable really is right now |
| 06:49.58 | simonrvn | a lil' bit of /etc/hosts magic ;) |
| 06:50.04 | Guerin | dae: signal 11 is a segfault IIRC |
| 06:50.16 | SlayerXP | bob2: alternatively find /lib/modules/$(uname -r) -type f -name "ntfs*" |
| 06:50.17 | helix | hm, so i can't upgrade still? |
| 06:50.18 | jm_ | ricochet: well did you check ~/.xsession ? |
| 06:50.26 | helix | i haven't upgraded in forever.. :( |
| 06:50.30 | simonrvn | SlayerXP: yeh, quite. every once in a while it goes to hell in a rollercoaster cart |
| 06:50.35 | bob2 | helix: I did last night |
| 06:50.35 | SlayerXP | helix: Summary: |
| 06:50.35 | SlayerXP | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:50.40 | bob2 | helix: gnome2.6, even |
| 06:50.45 | carrett | bob2: nothin'....but i enabled it as an M in make menuconfig then did the make-kpkg kernel_image dpkg -i ../ etc. |
| 06:50.50 | dae | hmm ok, I guess there isnt much I can do about it |
| 06:50.53 | helix | scary |
| 06:51.00 | helix | bob2: ok, but you are insane and i am not. |
| 06:51.01 | bob2 | carrett: then it wasn't built as a module |
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| 06:51.08 | bob2 | helix: metacity! |
| 06:51.12 | SlayerXP | helix: and that's a fairly light box in terms of installed packages |
| 06:51.31 | carrett | bob2: why is that directory in /lib/modules/2.6.5/build? what soes that mean? |
| 06:51.41 | cafuego | carrett: that's a symlink |
| 06:51.44 | helix | bob2: i don't use gnome anymore |
| 06:51.53 | helix | SlayerXP: yeah, i have over 1000 on this box |
| 06:51.58 | helix | i'm sure at least 500 are broken |
| 06:52.13 | ricochet | jm_ the user doesnt have .xsession in home |
| 06:52.16 | simonrvn | oh, the the IP for people.debian.org please? |
| 06:52.27 | simonrvn | and the* |
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| 06:52.32 | bob2 | people.debian.org has address 192.25.206.10 |
| 06:52.33 | cafuego | 192.25.206.10 |
| 06:52.36 | SlayerXP | postel:~# host people.debian.org |
| 06:52.36 | SlayerXP | people.debian.org has address 192.25.206.10 |
| 06:52.37 | simonrvn | thanks again |
| 06:52.39 | bob2 | simonrvn: are you having truoble resolving it? |
| 06:52.42 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 06:52.47 | bob2 | simonrvn: I noticed wget can't, but host can |
| 06:52.51 | bob2 | on a *single* machine |
| 06:53.04 | jm_ | ricochet: ok, then it would be best to debug what's going on, this shouldn't be possible on a default Debian system unless someone messed with those files |
| 06:53.27 | Guerin | Man, giftd has just crashed and burned for no apparent reason |
| 06:53.48 | jm_ | maybe it's not so gifted :) |
| 06:53.50 | Guerin | I didn't even upgrade anything, it's just flaking out all over the place |
| 06:53.57 | ricochet | jm_ the only thing i've changed in in relation to X is installing gatos package |
| 06:54.09 | bob2 | Guerin: check ram and disk, thhen file a bug |
| 06:54.22 | bob2 | Guerin: or upgarde if it's old, it was real flakey for a while |
| 06:54.39 | Guerin | bob2: I did a dry-run and it said it was the newest already |
| 06:54.55 | ricochet | jm_ and actually my tv tuner stopped working a few days ago.. related? (need gatos drivers in there for radeon AIW) |
| 06:55.15 | jm_ | ricochet: I wouldn't think this is related, it should be fairly trivial to debug this |
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| 06:56.17 | ricochet | jm_ where do I start? cant I just grep to see what file executes gnome and kde? |
| 06:56.43 | jm_ | ricochet: I'd put set -x at the top of various scripts that are run, starting with xinitrc, then Xsession and stuff in /etc/X11/Xsession.d |
| 06:57.37 | ricochet | jm_ -x meaning chmod ? |
| 06:58.04 | jm_ | no, "set -x" - it's a shell thing - man bash, look for -x, it has the same meaning (put it after #! line of course) |
| 06:58.05 | SlayerXP | http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=SCOX&t=3m&l=off&z=m&q=l&c= |
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| 06:58.25 | zignig | SlayerXP: http://www.theinquirer.net/images/articles/sassa.jpg |
| 06:58.37 | somiaj | ricochet: could it be that you launch either gnome from the kde session or kde from a saved gnome session....just a random thought. |
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| 06:59.07 | jm_ | zignig: bwahahaa |
| 06:59.28 | somiaj | ricochet: if you hve no session, you may also wanna check what your default alterntaive is for x-desktop (or something like that) |
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| 06:59.38 | somiaj | ricochet: no .xsession |
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| 07:00.07 | zignig | jm_: heh, 31 of these kids are doing the same thing </sesame street> |
| 07:00.13 | ricochet | somiaj for the user running startx, no |
| 07:00.13 | jm_ | ricochet: also look for ~/.xsession, ~/.Xsession and ~/.xinitrc |
| 07:00.23 | sonne | SlayerXP: and they end up where they came from... |
| 07:00.49 | SlayerXP | sonne: I think they'll be dropping a little more, yet |
| 07:00.54 | Guerin | bob2: giftd seems to have fixed its elf when I cleared my share cache, oh, the joys of verbose logging |
| 07:01.33 | sonne | SlayerXP: I would not care... |
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| 07:02.09 | SlayerXP | sonne: my heart is weeping blood for them |
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| 07:03.01 | sonne | SlayerXP: hopefully not too many people still have sco stocks |
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| 07:04.13 | somiaj | ricochet: well if you don't have any of those files jm_ mentioned, what is the alternative, (update-alternatives) for x-desktop (or something similar to that) |
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| 07:10.50 | dyn | is there anyone using a matrox card? |
| 07:11.06 | SlayerXP | dyn: undoubtably. |
| 07:11.38 | dyn | SlayerXP: that means yes or no? :) |
| 07:12.00 | SlayerXP | dyn: yes, someone is using a matrox card. |
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| 07:13.42 | simonrvn | yup. preempt is still the SEGV machine i remember it to be |
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| 07:13.59 | dyn | SlayerXP: great piece of info, thanks ;) |
| 07:14.11 | dyn | i would be interested of the output of `glxinfo | grep renderer` |
| 07:14.15 | SlayerXP | dyn: my pleasure. |
| 07:14.17 | jm_ | simonrvn: hmm I use lowlat patches for 2.4 and it's very stable |
| 07:14.34 | simonrvn | jm_: lowlat is. preempt *ISN'T* :) |
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| 07:15.03 | simonrvn | Linux anubis 2.6.6-rc3-bk8 #1 Fri May 7 15:20:52 UTC 2004 ppc GNU/Linux |
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| 07:15.13 | cahoot | dyn: OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI G400 20020221 AGP 1x x86/MMX/3DNow!/SSE |
| 07:15.36 | corr | hell yeah |
| 07:15.40 | dyn | cahoot: and you have it configured correctly? |
| 07:15.46 | corr | corr's back and he's starting to become a guru again |
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| 07:15.53 | dyn | cahoot: it shows this here: OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI G400 20020221 AGP 4x x86/MMX/SSE |
| 07:16.00 | cahoot | dyn: no idea |
| 07:16.03 | simonrvn | anyone who says they're a guru, isn't |
| 07:16.18 | SlayerXP | i'm a guru |
| 07:16.33 | corr | simonrvn well, i am a troll. this will never change. but see how easily you bit my trool? ah, there is the genius of it all. there is the genius. |
| 07:16.36 | dyn | cahoot: and glxinfo | grep vendor shows SGI for server/client vendor string or something else? |
| 07:16.37 | simonrvn | ...of his ass ;P |
| 07:16.46 | jm_ | simonrvn: that's quite surprising, I always thought preempt patches are less invasive |
| 07:16.55 | bob2 | god |
| 07:17.02 | simonrvn | jm_: less invasive doesn't mean more stable :) |
| 07:17.04 | cahoot | dyn: SGI only |
| 07:17.10 | jm_ | simonrvn: true |
| 07:17.21 | bob2 | and peopel sho say I'm "nice" to them when trolling usually find out that I'm not |
| 07:17.24 | bob2 | very quickly |
| 07:17.42 | corr | bob2, i never once trolled you. |
| 07:17.46 | dyn | cahoot: i used to have a matrox card, and i believe the glx vendor string showed Matrox Inc at that time |
| 07:17.48 | corr | bob2, don't make me. |
| 07:17.55 | simonrvn | i guess some folks don't like having the truth shown to them |
| 07:17.59 | man_in_shack | what do i run to reconfigure the network with debconf? |
| 07:18.01 | dyn | cahoot: but that was with xfree v3, so it might be obsolete |
| 07:18.10 | bob2 | corr: I didn't say you did, but do not ever invoke my name again |
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| 07:18.25 | corr | bob2: why? |
| 07:18.26 | _morbid_ | is there any non linear video editor for linux? |
| 07:18.29 | simonrvn | man_in_shack: editor /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 07:18.45 | man_in_shack | _morbid_: cinelerra works sometimes |
| 07:18.45 | jm_ | man_in_shack: you did not configure it with debconf in first place |
| 07:18.50 | man_in_shack | _morbid_: then there's kino |
| 07:18.56 | cahoot | dyn: Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G400 AGP (rev 85) according to lspci |
| 07:18.58 | _morbid_ | man_in_shack: kino is for dv only |
| 07:19.07 | man_in_shack | _morbid_: linuxvideostudio |
| 07:19.10 | corr | whatever, this place has drama even when you say someone is nice |
| 07:19.12 | corr | you just cant win |
| 07:19.17 | _morbid_ | I will look for linuxvideostudio |
| 07:19.21 | _morbid_ | never heard about |
| 07:19.24 | dyn | cahoot: Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G400 AGP (rev 82), and it's a matrox G450 |
| 07:19.31 | _morbid_ | I thought the only solution was use cinelerra |
| 07:19.32 | man_in_shack | jm_: then what is it when it asks for network settings on install? |
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| 07:19.40 | man_in_shack | _morbid_: it is, pretty much |
| 07:19.43 | simonrvn | corr: it's not about winning. first mistake |
| 07:19.53 | man_in_shack | _morbid_: cinelerra is the most extensive. but it's rather broken |
| 07:19.56 | cahoot | dyn: same here |
| 07:20.06 | jm_ | man_in_shack: base-config, apt-cache show etherconf or do it manually (man interfaces -- /msg dpkg interfaces -- cd /usr/share/doc/ifupdown and read) |
| 07:20.16 | corr | simonrvn, you're absolutely correct. it's about people not jumping all over me when i said they were nice to me, which they were, like as if i'd killed their frickin mother or something. |
| 07:20.28 | dyn | cahoot: and can you please check what's your glxgears result? |
| 07:20.31 | corr | i am an asshole, but i would never, ever, in a billion years hop on someone for saying i am nice |
| 07:20.37 | cahoot | dyn: ca 600 |
| 07:20.39 | man_in_shack | jm_: base-config didn't ask for network settings |
| 07:20.42 | dyn | cahoot: i get about 300-400 at 1600x1200@24 |
| 07:21.00 | dyn | cahoot: but this box has a P3-1ghz cpu only, so it might be ok |
| 07:21.02 | jm_ | man_in_shack: sure it did, if you tell it you're on a network |
| 07:21.20 | man_in_shack | jm_: no, it didn't ask for any network settings |
| 07:21.30 | man_in_shack | jm_: i want to reconfigure, remember |
| 07:21.31 | cahoot | dyn: ca 600 at 1280x1068 (default opening size) |
| 07:21.43 | jm_ | man_in_shack: then you didn't load a module for a NIC, do the above |
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| 07:21.56 | man_in_shack | jm_: the above? |
| 07:22.02 | jm_ | man_in_shack: yes |
| 07:22.04 | dyn | cahoot: ok.. my config must be ok then, thx for seconding that :) |
| 07:22.12 | nu_metall | hi alö |
| 07:22.13 | man_in_shack | jm_: as in install etherconf? |
| 07:22.27 | nu_metall | anyone knows how to work with freenet6 and a router? |
| 07:22.31 | jm_ | man_in_shack: use one of the alternatives I mentioned |
| 07:23.05 | SlayerXP | nu_metall: yes, he does. |
| 07:23.22 | man_in_shack | etherconf allows changing stuff like router address? |
| 07:23.56 | ricochet | jm_ i gave up learning and just killed gnome-panel |
| 07:24.14 | jm_ | ricochet: KISS approach |
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| 07:25.26 | nu_metall | SlayerXP: my problem ist that the client tells me that the ip4v address is invalid. how do i work around? |
| 07:25.52 | SlayerXP | nu_metall: not a clue. |
| 07:26.18 | man_in_shack | blaarg |
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| 07:26.38 | nu_metall | how do i get a ipv6 address then? |
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| 07:28.42 | simonrvn | corr: i didn't jump on you. |
| 07:28.53 | simonrvn | corr: *now* you're trolling |
| 07:31.09 | corr | simonrvn: not you! bob2. |
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| 07:31.38 | simonrvn | corr: shut up while you can voluntarily |
| 07:31.50 | corr | simonrvn: you've been nice to me - nicer than most else. |
| 07:32.04 | _morbid_ | why don't we have a cinelerra package for debian? |
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| 07:32.08 | _morbid_ | isn't it gpl? |
| 07:32.14 | simonrvn | corr: do not /msg me |
| 07:32.34 | corr | then do not threaten me |
| 07:32.58 | simonrvn | _morbid_: so file a wnpp bug for it, if you can't find it at packages.debian.org |
| 07:32.58 | corr | i didn't do anything to you, and you got mad because you misunderstood what i said |
| 07:32.58 | corr | so i attempted to clarify |
| 07:33.03 | corr | and this made you even more mad? |
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| 07:33.09 | corr | what the hell am i supposed to do? |
| 07:33.11 | SlayerXP | http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2004-May/msg00104.html |
| 07:33.19 | simonrvn | corr: it was a warning, not a threat. touchy, aren't we |
| 07:33.41 | corr | simonrvn: i'd say you're the one being touchy |
| 07:33.43 | simonrvn | i do not threaten people |
| 07:33.45 | SlayerXP | corr: simonrvn is lovely and cuddly, if you want rude and offensive, try me. |
| 07:33.50 | simonrvn | i'm prefectly clam here |
| 07:33.56 | simonrvn | calm even |
| 07:33.59 | SlayerXP | mmm clams |
| 07:34.00 | zignig | simonrvn: clam or scollop ? |
| 07:34.00 | maxb_ | heh |
| 07:34.11 | simonrvn | clams are fine |
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| 07:34.18 | giorgian | hi all. i installed gsfonts-x11 and it changed the default emacs font to a small ugly unreadable one. then i removed gsfonts-x11 and now emacs shows little squares instead of characters. what shall i do to make emacs use again the standard gnome font? |
| 07:34.21 | simonrvn | well, kinds partial to scallops too |
| 07:34.30 | kelon | hi. Anyone use squid + nis? |
| 07:34.30 | corr | simonrvn: well, i didn't say you jumped on me. you misunderstood. you got mad. i didn't frickin do anything. |
| 07:34.41 | SlayerXP | kelon: yes, you do. |
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| 07:34.55 | kelon | SlayerXP, no, I don't :P |
| 07:34.57 | kelon | what is the program used by nis to authenticate the users? I've a squid installed with nscs authentication but I would like to use nis database |
| 07:35.00 | corr | i mean, i didn't even do anything before, and mr. "dont invoke my name because i am so badass" harps on me for no frickin reason |
| 07:35.17 | zignig | kelon: use ldap, more secure and much funkier. |
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| 07:35.47 | zignig | corr: talk about debian or troll somewhere else, please :) |
| 07:35.48 | kelon | zignig, I've a nis database already |
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| 07:35.53 | zignig | kelon: ah. |
| 07:35.56 | simonrvn | corr: dude. chill. losing your temper like that will shorten your lifespan |
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| 07:36.09 | kelon | zignig, and I can't change it |
| 07:36.10 | kelon | :( |
| 07:36.17 | SlayerXP | kelon: I don't think squid will authenticate via NIS directly, you'll most likely need to use PAM |
| 07:36.20 | corr | i try chillin, but it will only piss someone else off |
| 07:36.25 | corr | there's no use |
| 07:36.25 | kelon | zignig, thx for ldap tip |
| 07:36.30 | corr | but anyway |
| 07:37.06 | kelon | SlayerXP, ok. Is it much different than with ncsa_auth? |
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| 07:38.20 | simonrvn | corr: good. change channels, so to speak. heh |
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| 07:39.08 | corr | simonrvn: have you ever tried doing make-kpkg and building the nvidia deb along side? |
| 07:39.19 | corr | just wondering if there's any catches i might wanna know about :) |
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| 07:39.59 | wuffi600 | where is package "xirssi" gone? could you help? |
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| 07:40.44 | sciboy | Hi ^^ |
| 07:41.24 | Shadur | wuffi600: Discontinued as it sucked. |
| 07:41.42 | sciboy | I own a scanner ("CanoScan N640P ex") and i wish to use it with GIMP, what do i need to do or get inorder to do this? |
| 07:41.47 | simonrvn | corr: nope |
| 07:42.04 | corr | simonrvn: okiday thx :) |
| 07:42.07 | jm_ | sciboy: did you look at SANE project ? |
| 07:42.08 | somiaj | wuffi600: irssi-text, xterm...(: |
| 07:42.17 | Guerin | sciboy: apt-cache search sane | grep -i gimp |
| 07:42.26 | sciboy | jm_: Ok, i got SANE installed what next? |
| 07:42.46 | Guerin | sciboy: there are sane packages especially for gimp too - you probably need them |
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| 07:43.14 | sciboy | Don't i need special pp drivers for my scanner? |
| 07:43.16 | Guerin | (or gimp packages with sane, I can't remember) |
| 07:43.17 | jm_ | sciboy: RTFM |
| 07:43.26 | Guerin | sciboy: how should I know, it's your scanner |
| 07:43.50 | sciboy | Guerin, By using the model name i typed above and searching? |
| 07:44.02 | Guerin | sciboy: why the FUCK should I do that? |
| 07:44.04 | sciboy | Which i have already done but i am still clueless :P |
| 07:44.15 | wuffi600 | Shadur: ok |
| 07:44.21 | wuffi600 | somiaj: thanks, i know. |
| 07:44.21 | corr | lol this is great |
| 07:44.43 | corr | sciboy corr's tip #1: change your nick, it sucks. #2. eh, who cares. |
| 07:44.43 | BlackJudas|Ballz | where's the best place to bitch about dovecot? |
| 07:44.48 | Guerin | sciboy: I don't have and have never set up a scanner, I just happen to know there are some sane-gimp packages - do with that info what you will :) |
| 07:45.23 | zignig | corr: zignig's tip , change your attitude , it sucks. |
| 07:45.29 | zignig | corr: :P |
| 07:45.54 | corr | zignig: this is known, but first i'd have to tackel my schizophrenia. |
| 07:46.09 | corr | not an easy thing to tackle let me tell you :) |
| 07:46.13 | somiaj | funny, looks like the irssi-snapshot version (0.8.6) is older than irssi in sid, (0.8.9) |
| 07:46.29 | sciboy | Ok, step one, is there anybody in here who has setup a scanner use SANE? |
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| 07:46.36 | sciboy | s/use/using |
| 07:46.45 | Guerin | !tell sciboy about polls |
| 07:46.50 | maxb_ | sciboy -- yes i have |
| 07:47.19 | corr | lol |
| 07:47.24 | corr | !tell corr about polls |
| 07:47.29 | sciboy | maxb_: Would you be willing to provide guidance on seting mine up? |
| 07:47.37 | maxb_ | yes |
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| 07:47.50 | mechan0r | odd I can't /join #php |
| 07:47.51 | Guerin | corr: you can use /msg dpkg <factoid> |
| 07:47.55 | maxb_ | sciboy -- usb or other? |
| 07:48.05 | sciboy | maxb_: Paralell Port :P |
| 07:48.22 | corr | yes, sorry - i knew that but forgot, i thought !tell was the same for some wacky reason |
| 07:48.22 | sciboy | maxb_: http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl5_sane-canon_pp.htm |
| 07:48.27 | corr | sorry! :) |
| 07:48.42 | maxb_ | sciboy -- hmmm, ive only setup usb, should be the same though |
| 07:49.01 | jm_ | it is the same as far as the bot telling you the factoid goes, but it's not the same as far as spamming the channel goes |
| 07:49.03 | maxb_ | sciboy -- hangon a sec, brb |
| 07:49.10 | sciboy | maxb_: So, is there a special filetype of driver i need to get? |
| 07:49.18 | sciboy | maxb_: k |
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| 07:49.30 | corr | jm_ understood :) |
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| 07:52.24 | mchang | hey all |
| 07:52.35 | corr | well, this is fun. it seems like something has changed the power button from off to "to to standby" |
| 07:52.44 | corr | s/to to/go to/ |
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| 07:53.28 | jm_ | you can configure what it does by using ACPI or APM and then acpid/apmd |
| 07:53.52 | mchang | which tasksel has nfsd in it? |
| 07:54.35 | corr | oh! thanks, didnt think of that. i played with apm/acpi on slack, nver got it to work right, so i assumed it wouldnt on here :) |
| 07:55.09 | jm_ | I use it only to shutdown my PC and detect button press, I doubt my system supports any sleep mode (one can use swsusp either way) |
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| 07:55.56 | corr | jm_ ah, i dont know how, but this bf2.4 kernel supports apm --suspend |
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| 07:56.18 | corr | i wish i knew how to tie that to closing the laptop lid (maybe apmd can do it, gotta read a few manuals) |
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| 07:56.50 | quitte | corr i have to set it with the dos utility for my laptop |
| 07:56.52 | jm_ | check if the event shows up somewhere in proc when you do that, that's how the button works too, at least with ACPI, and acpid reads it |
| 07:56.59 | junix | for some reason i'm getting a rpc error when trying to mount a remote nfs shgare |
| 07:57.02 | somiaj | corr: either can do it, on a thinkpad I apm worked out of the box, (apt-get install apmd) but I would of had to bind the option to the closing lid on acpi |
| 07:57.29 | corr | this is a toshiba |
| 07:57.38 | jm_ | junix: did you read NFS howto ? |
| 07:57.49 | junix | no |
| 07:57.49 | corr | jm_, when you say proc you mean /proc? |
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| 07:58.01 | jm_ | corr: yup. sorry |
| 07:58.06 | somiaj | corr: if its apm complient, apt-get install apmd and have the corret modules...and see if it just works, if not you'll have to catch the event. |
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| 07:58.14 | junix | jm_: i'm trying to mount a share |
| 07:58.19 | corr | somiaj bind it with acpi, hmm ok. i'll rtfacpim |
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| 07:58.22 | corr | jm_ np... but any idea where in proc it'd show up? |
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| 07:58.50 | corr | somiaj well, apmd is installed and i can get it to suspend by typing "apm --suspend" and then pressing the power button to have ti resume |
| 07:58.57 | somiaj | corr: ok, my experience was I had better luck functionality with apm (acpi just didn't come out of sleep without killing my sound module) |
| 07:58.58 | jm_ | corr: /proc/acpi/event if you're using ACPI, not sure how this is handled with APM |
| 07:59.10 | force | ive just updated from woody to sarge weird thing is im getting standard header files missing, (stdio.h missing..) anyone know a fix? |
| 07:59.20 | jm_ | junix: yes, so read the howto to learn how to configure the server properly |
| 07:59.31 | somiaj | corr: but it depends on the laptop....some have better apm support other acpi...(: |
| 07:59.41 | simonrvn | wooonderful... |
| 07:59.45 | corr | i'd rather it turn on when i close the lid, and come back when i open it though |
| 07:59.46 | corr | hmm |
| 07:59.46 | corr | acpi will prolly be my best bet it sounds like |
| 07:59.47 | junix | jm_: the server is configured, its the client i'm having problems with |
| 07:59.54 | mchang | jm_: junix has some rpc problems... prolly not everything installed to mount nfs |
| 07:59.54 | simonrvn | fuck this. back to the older kernel |
| 07:59.55 | corr | yeah |
| 07:59.55 | jm_ | force: /msg dpkg search |
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| 07:59.58 | somiaj | force: install libc6-dev |
| 08:00.05 | jm_ | mchang: exactly |
| 08:00.07 | Warer | Where can i find the config file for the debian stock kernel? |
| 08:00.14 | corr | i used to use hibernation on windows... i wish linux supported it |
| 08:00.17 | jm_ | junix: obviously not - showmount -e nfs_server |
| 08:00.24 | somiaj | Warer: /boot/config-`uname -a` |
| 08:00.25 | corr | Warer: /boot? |
| 08:00.25 | jm_ | Warer: ls /boot |
| 08:00.30 | Warer | :) |
| 08:00.38 | junix | ok |
| 08:00.39 | junix | 1 sec |
| 08:00.41 | mchang | jm_: doesn't the tasksel have something to install unix-server stuff? |
| 08:00.46 | jm_ | corr: swsusp can be used for that |
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| 08:00.59 | jm_ | mchang: I don't know, I always install it by hand, I don't use tasksel |
| 08:01.20 | junix | jm_: 'showmount: can't get address for nfs_server' |
| 08:01.23 | mchang | jm_: yup, but for a n00b, maybe it's the easiest way to get it all working. |
| 08:01.39 | jm_ | junix: well apply some logic, replace that with the address of your NFS server |
| 08:01.48 | mchang | junix: lol - replace "nfs_server" with your real nfs server name or ip address. |
| 08:01.49 | somiaj | jm_: well run tasksel, you don't have to acually select any tasks...(: |
| 08:01.57 | somiaj | mchang: ^^ |
| 08:01.58 | jm_ | mchang: no, you still have to export it which requires manual intervention |
| 08:02.00 | somiaj | jm_: sorry |
| 08:02.11 | jm_ | somiaj: I have purged tasksel package ;) |
| 08:02.15 | junix | jm_: mount clntudp_create: RPC: Program not registered |
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| 08:02.18 | force | somiaj: i have libc6-dev already installed |
| 08:02.27 | jm_ | junix: there you go, so server is not configured |
| 08:02.27 | somiaj | jm_: hmm good idea...(: |
| 08:02.45 | mchang | jm_: right, but junix just wants the client side working, supposedly the server is already set up |
| 08:02.51 | jm_ | mchang: it isn't |
| 08:02.57 | junix | jm_: but it is, i can connect to it from windows |
| 08:03.10 | jm_ | junix: not via NFS you can't, try smbclient / smbmount instead |
| 08:03.20 | somiaj | force: do you have the file /usr/include/stdio.h (if so then its just a libary path problem (ld) |
| 08:03.21 | mchang | jm_: true, I'm assuming someone else set that one up :) |
| 08:03.24 | jm_ | junix: or if you can connect to it with NFS, it's nfspc, not the same thing |
| 08:03.37 | junix | i don't remember the command options for smbmount |
| 08:03.47 | jm_ | man smbmount |
| 08:03.49 | mchang | junix: you sure you can get to it through NFS and not through windows sharing (smb)? |
| 08:04.02 | mohadib | smbmount //10.0.0.1/share /mnt/here -o user=foo |
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| 08:05.02 | corr_ | grrr! |
| 08:05.04 | corr_ | modem died again |
| 08:05.06 | force | somiaj: nope it's missing |
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| 08:05.33 | somiaj | force: try to apt-get --reinstall install libc6-dev |
| 08:05.39 | force | alright |
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| 08:06.26 | force | somiaj: thanks :) that worked |
| 08:06.32 | knt | hi all, i've started up vsftpd and when i try to connect the localhost taking such an error: 500 OOPS: failed to open vsftpd log file:"/var/log/vsftpd.log". how can i fix that (vsftpd.log exists and its perm is root.root 0644) |
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| 08:07.13 | mchang | knt: what user does vsftpd run as ? |
| 08:07.18 | SlayerXP | knt: that will only be right is vsftpd is running as root |
| 08:07.24 | SlayerXP | is==if |
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| 08:07.28 | somiaj | force: though its strange that that file disapeared, you best help its the only thing that got deleted durning your upgrade. |
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| 08:07.57 | junix | jm_: message start: ERRSRV - ERRmsgoff (Not receiving messages.) |
| 08:07.58 | junix | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:08.04 | maxb_ | sciboy -- you there, sorry man |
| 08:08.43 | sciboy | maxb_, Luckily, yes :P |
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| 08:08.49 | knt | SlayerXP: mchang: i'm running it as root |
| 08:08.57 | jm_ | junix: try smbclient -L hostname to list its shares first |
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| 08:09.11 | cyklus | when connecting my ipod mini to my laptop I sometimes am able to mount the /dev/sda2, but i constantly get this usb error and the device disconnects: kernel: usb 1-4: USB disconnect, address 20... then it tries address 21 and says device is not accepting address 21, error -71... which keeps on going for another couple addresses... anyone know what might be wrong? |
| 08:09.13 | AfgBaby | I just installed libflash-dev and dependencies and closed firefox... shouldn't flash movies work now? |
| 08:09.21 | sciboy | maxb_, So, is there a specific file i need to download inorder to get sane to work with my scanner? |
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| 08:09.57 | somiaj | AfgBaby: you still need a flashplayer, there is a free one in debian I have never gotten to work, and on i386 machines there is a flashplayer plugin for linux machines. |
| 08:10.12 | SlayerXP | knt: you might be starting it as root, but the deamon will be running as a non-root user |
| 08:10.13 | maxb_ | sciboy -- maybe i cant help as much as i thought, i had my scanner working flawless on 2.4.x but since changing to 2.6.5 i hadnt used scanner, apparently there is whole new way to do usb scanners :( |
| 08:10.18 | Supaplex | I'm getting like 3k/s to the internet from any one of the machines behind my ipmasqing firewall (iptables). I can get 800k/s to and from any station and the gateway. The gateway downstream eaisly approaches 400k/s I've even cold booted the gateway to no avail. what else can I do? |
| 08:10.22 | janson | i want to install the nvidia drivers and i'm using the latest sarge. there's need for the kernel source so i do have to recompile the kernel myself? |
| 08:10.23 | mchang | knt: i don't know about vsftpd, but many programs run as root, but then shed root privs to a specified user. |
| 08:10.49 | jm_ | janson: you need kernel-headers at least |
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| 08:11.01 | cahoot | maxb_: http://www.freecolormanagement.com/sane/libusb.html |
| 08:11.11 | AfgBaby | bah |
| 08:11.16 | sciboy | maxb_: Mine isn't usb :P |
| 08:11.23 | janson | jm_: sure of that? |
| 08:11.24 | somiaj | janson: no, apt-get install nvidia-kernel-source and read the docs in /usr/share/doc/nvidia-kernel-source (you can compile it against the debian kernels with the appropriate kernel-headers installed) |
| 08:11.29 | maxb_ | sciboy -- as far as i remember though, i just plugged my scanner in with the correct module, and when i started xsane there it was |
| 08:11.33 | janson | somiaj: thanks alot |
| 08:11.35 | maxb_ | cahoot -- thanks |
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| 08:11.41 | jm_ | janson: yes, if you're using one of the kernel-image packages |
| 08:11.43 | sciboy | maxb_: Theres a SANE patch on the canoscan server... Is that what i need? |
| 08:11.52 | maxb_ | sciboy -- hang on |
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| 08:12.09 | sciboy | maxb_: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=26508 |
| 08:12.29 | maxb_ | sciboy -- have you got paralell support in the kernel, does your box see it etc? |
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| 08:12.52 | sciboy | maxb_: It seems like it isn't even polling the parport :( |
| 08:13.07 | mchang | whups, closed the window :) |
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| 08:13.15 | Alecz | heya all |
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| 08:13.20 | SexyKen | Anyone know what Prednisone is? |
| 08:13.31 | maxb_ | sciboy -- well, id say that before sanes gonna work you need to get the scanner recognised |
| 08:13.39 | cyklus | when connecting my ipod mini to my laptop I sometimes am able to mount the /dev/sda2, but i constantly get this usb error and the device disconnects: kernel: usb 1-4: USB disconnect, address 20... then it tries address 21 and says device is not accepting address 21, error -71... which keeps on going for another couple addresses... anyone know what might be wrong? |
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| 08:13.48 | sciboy | maxb_: How do i do that? |
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| 08:15.18 | jm_ | dict prednisone returns very specific description |
| 08:15.36 | mchang | it's orally taken cortisone. |
| 08:16.33 | cahoot | mchang: at least a corticosteroid |
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| 08:17.37 | KingNato | In ed, is there a way to get things out of the cut buffer once you've put them there with y? |
| 08:18.08 | maxb_ | sciboy -- id reccomend reading this http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Scanner-HOWTO/ |
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| 08:19.19 | wake | KingNato: do you want to erase the buffer? or print it (p/P)? |
| 08:20.03 | KingNato | wake: I want to insert it into the buffer |
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| 08:20.26 | Zap-W | HellO heLLoe HDKF for xux a show |
| 08:21.00 | KingNato | The y command " Copies (yanks) the addressed lines to the cut buffer.", I want to put those lines into the buffer I'm editing. |
| 08:21.40 | sciboy | maxb_: Grabbing sane-backends package, it apparently needs to be installed for PP support :P |
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| 08:25.03 | jm_ | KingNato: x does that |
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| 08:26.05 | petemc | wouldnt it be dd for a line |
| 08:26.08 | maxb_ | sciboy -- well hopething work out |
| 08:26.17 | maxb_ | hope things even |
| 08:26.19 | UINCE | hi |
| 08:26.26 | ansi_dude | Does anyone know sources for the gcc i386 packages for arm cross compiling? |
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| 08:27.43 | jm_ | ansi_dude: toolchain-source I guess |
| 08:28.32 | ansi_dude | I was hoping there would be a precompiled toolchain somewhere but it's looking like I'll have to compile as you said, :/ |
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| 08:32.59 | corr_ | why is make menuconfig not letting me deselect scsi support |
| 08:33.03 | corr_ | heads will roll |
| 08:33.19 | Shadur | eyes already do. |
| 08:34.07 | Piru | :) |
| 08:34.32 | corr_ | im serious though, it wont let me deselect it |
| 08:35.58 | streuner | corr_: dselect it? |
| 08:36.55 | corr_ | streuner disable it? |
| 08:37.05 | streuner | hm |
| 08:37.06 | corr_ | it will only let me pick it as a module, not totally remove it |
| 08:37.31 | corr_ | im looking through to find something that uses it, possibly |
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| 08:38.51 | corr_ | grr |
| 08:39.09 | streuner | sledgehammer! |
| 08:39.33 | corr_ | this is the debian kernel source |
| 08:39.38 | corr_ | hold on, im reading the changelog |
| 08:39.44 | corr_ | maybe they made it to where you cant rm it |
| 08:39.55 | streuner | nah |
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| 08:40.09 | streuner | in the changelog you prolly don't find anything about |
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| 08:41.21 | corr_ | yeah, it doesnt look like it |
| 08:41.47 | corr_ | i guess i should just leave scsi in |
| 08:41.55 | corr_ | although that makes me mad |
| 08:42.07 | streuner | could be, that you are unable to disable SCSI support at all... |
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| 08:42.58 | sciboy | :P |
| 08:43.02 | sciboy | 2 minutes... |
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| 08:44.55 | sys64738 | Does anyone care to reccomend a good WAP email server/front end? |
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| 08:49.59 | vud1 | para escribir en un fichero que funcion hay buena? |
| 08:50.05 | vud1 | en C digo |
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| 08:50.11 | vud1 | es que toy probando con fprintf |
| 08:50.22 | SlayerXP | vud1: we oie lkj lde qw e we ewt qetqr rkjnv oij qew;lkr? |
| 08:50.27 | fwd | gg |
| 08:50.30 | vud1 | pero fprintf me sobreescribe el fichero.. no me escribe al final del mismo |
| 08:50.38 | vud1 | ups |
| 08:50.40 | vud1 | sorry |
| 08:50.45 | fwd | vud1: lingua inglesa a qui |
| 08:50.59 | streuner | !rot13 we oie lkj lde qw e we ewt qetqr rkjnv oij qew;lkr |
| 08:50.59 | vud1 | it was a mistake, i was thinking that i was in another channel |
| 08:50.59 | dpkg | jr bvr yxw yqr dj r jr rjg drgde exwai bvw drj;yxe |
| 08:51.01 | fwd | non hablando espanol |
| 08:51.01 | vud1 | sorry |
| 08:51.01 | fwd | ;) |
| 08:51.03 | vud1 | :) |
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| 08:51.26 | sys64738 | utilizar errorlevels? |
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| 08:51.40 | psalento | I am unable to mount reiserfs partition. "No superblock or too many mounts..." I have tried reiserfsck but it reports that there are propably bad sectors and ends. How can I get my data at least partly out of the disk? |
| 08:51.55 | sys64738 | Big magnets. |
| 08:52.03 | SlayerXP | psalento: restore from your backup. |
| 08:52.14 | ixi-deb04 | Hi. I've just configured to use SWAT but don't want to login using root account. Do I really need to create special user to use swat? |
| 08:52.20 | SlayerXP | psalento: and then fire the person who chose to use reiserfs |
| 08:52.30 | Supaplex | a second hardrive is pretty cheap these days. |
| 08:52.36 | psalento | That would be nice but as those files were not very important I had them at RAID5... that does not help here. |
| 08:52.56 | SlayerXP | psalento: hardware or software raid? |
| 08:53.00 | psalento | hardware |
| 08:53.15 | Supaplex | imo, riserfs is good for /tmp /var/cache/ and stuff. :) |
| 08:53.19 | SlayerXP | psalento: had you said software, I would have asked you for a copy of your CV :) |
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| 08:54.04 | sciboy | How do i load a SANE backend? |
| 08:54.15 | psalento | SlayerXP, do you have some mistrust against software raid? |
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| 08:54.28 | maher | psalento: is more than one of yor disks dead then? |
| 08:54.32 | SlayerXP | psalento: yes. |
| 08:54.39 | Supaplex | psalento: oh lets see, atomic writes to all drives... |
| 08:54.47 | SlayerXP | maher: if it's hardware raid then the controller should be mnaging faults. |
| 08:55.00 | SlayerXP | managing |
| 08:55.04 | psalento | One disk is dead but hardware says that RAID is not fault-tolerant anymore but should be ok otherwise. |
| 08:55.39 | maher | SlayerXP: bet it can't manage two dead discs tho :) |
| 08:55.50 | psalento | I can read reiserfs superblock from the disk but not anything else |
| 08:56.00 | Supaplex | pull the plug, which platter got the write last? -and- is the data in sync with the other platters? The good hardware raid cards have onboard nvram to transact the writes ina power failure. |
| 08:56.24 | psalento | RAID5: all of them are written in sync |
| 08:56.32 | simonrvn | phew. that's fixed. fucking preempt... |
| 08:57.15 | psalento | I would like to try some program to read whole RAID disk through to check if the are I/O errors while trying to read it. |
| 08:57.37 | psalento | Can I use e.x. dd to do that? |
| 08:59.03 | SlayerXP | maher: sure it can. A nice friendly dialog: "You have lost your data. We hope you now realise that RAID is not a replacement for a tested backup system. HTH." |
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| 09:00.05 | Randy | Hi :) |
| 09:00.06 | sciboy | Everytime i try to use xsane with parport it reports the error. - Failed to open device "canon_pp:/dev/scanner": Error during device I/O. |
| 09:00.09 | sciboy | What do i do |
| 09:00.32 | psalento | It is not that bad... There were only ~200GB of videos that are not irreplaceable and that would not be possible to backup in any case (costs are not worth it). |
| 09:00.33 | ixi-deb04 | Does anybody use SWAT? Do I need to create special account for access to it? (Otherwise I have to login as root over unsecure channel). |
| 09:00.45 | Randy | sciboy: can I PM you |
| 09:00.54 | sciboy | Randy: Sure :P |
| 09:02.06 | sciboy | Please MSG me an answer if you have one as i need to go, will bb in 30mins |
| 09:02.47 | psalento | dd is not easiest program to use... could you help me with a command to read whole data and write any errors encountered into a log? Or at least a message if there are any errors. |
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| 09:06.29 | xerophyte | how can i make sure libpcap installed? |
| 09:06.42 | Shadur | apt-get install libpcap tends to work |
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| 09:07.57 | zimnyx | i am in init 2, how do i restart all /etc/rc2.d/ ? |
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| 09:08.43 | simonrvn | use a for loop |
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| 09:09.17 | zimnyx | yep. i can do it. but isn't there a way to restart whole init 2? |
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| 09:09.38 | nilse | which configfile does aterm use ? ~/.Xdefaults ~/.Xresources are both ignored |
| 09:09.43 | zimnyx | sometimes apt-get install does "reload init 2" |
| 09:10.33 | caphuso | nilse: did you xrdb -merge? |
| 09:10.38 | zimnyx | i'll look into .deb maybe i'll find it in some script |
| 09:10.43 | nilse | caphuso: nope what is that ? |
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| 09:10.57 | caphuso | nilse: the explanation why those files are being ignored |
| 09:11.08 | simonrvn | zimnyx: no, that's for sysvinit package. it does not restart init 2 |
| 09:11.08 | nilse | caphuso: ok, ill check it, thanx |
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| 09:11.31 | simonrvn | zimnyx: and you can do that anyway, init q. all that does is get init to re-red its conf |
| 09:11.35 | cafuego | zimnyx: init 1; init 2 |
| 09:11.37 | simonrvn | read* |
| 09:11.53 | simonrvn | that's ^^ how you do it |
| 09:11.55 | cafuego | zimnyx: That'll kill everythimng, then load init 2 |
| 09:12.05 | zimnyx | cafuego: i know it, i was thinking that there is command like current_init_reload |
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| 09:12.51 | simonrvn | yeh the script - if it exitsed - would contain that ^^. so what's the point, for something that's rarely done? |
| 09:14.12 | opp | how do i see the logs in my xchat??? |
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| 09:14.51 | simonrvn | with a pager |
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| 09:15.01 | zimnyx | thanks.... |
| 09:15.02 | cafuego | zimnyx: yeah, there is. cd /etc/rc$(ps auxww | grep root | grep init | awk -F'[' '{print $2}' | awk -F ']' '{print $1}').d; for i in *; do sh ./i restart; done |
| 09:15.11 | cafuego | zimnyx: yeah, there is. cd /etc/rc$(ps auxww | grep root | grep init | awk -F'[' '{print $2}' | awk -F ']' '{print $1}').d; for i in *; do sh ./$i restart; done |
| 09:15.14 | cafuego | even |
| 09:15.19 | zimnyx | i see |
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| 09:16.12 | krystal2 | is there someone here that knows gdesklets ? i can't install an applet that i have downloaded ... |
| 09:16.47 | zimnyx | krystal2: what you need exactly? |
| 09:17.09 | simonrvn | there ya go. a script |
| 09:17.09 | zimnyx | krystal2: what led you want to turn on/off |
| 09:17.16 | simonrvn | cafuego: nice |
| 09:18.16 | cafuego | simonrvn: ugly hack |
| 09:18.35 | cafuego | zimnyx: it's what i run, so it's what i use |
| 09:19.11 | simonrvn | cafuego: yeh, but mine was uglier (the one i had in mind), and much more manual |
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| 09:19.51 | simonrvn | @tell chuckyn -about root |
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| 09:20.22 | streuner | prolly a bot |
| 09:21.13 | cafuego | Aiyee! Bug! |
| 09:21.18 | cafuego | zimnyx: yeah, there is. cd /etc/rc$(ps auxww | grep root | grep init | awk -F'[' '{print $2}' | awk -F ']' '{print $1}').d; for i in S*; do sh ./$i restart; done |
| 09:21.28 | caphuso | runlevel | cut -d\ -f 2 |
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| 09:22.30 | zimnyx | :) |
| 09:22.34 | cafuego | bash: runlevel: command not found |
| 09:22.44 | caphuso | cafuego: /sbin/runlevel |
| 09:23.03 | cafuego | better |
| 09:24.06 | cafuego | cd /etc/rc$(/sbin/runlevel | cut -d\ -f 2).d; for file in S*; do sh ./$file restart; done |
| 09:24.41 | simonrvn | cleaner |
| 09:24.51 | caphuso | s/sh // to make it a tiny bit more clean :) |
| 09:25.02 | simonrvn | yeh :) |
| 09:25.26 | cafuego | and "$file", even though in general there are no spaces in those symlinks |
| 09:25.56 | simonrvn | no need, but just to make it safer, yeh |
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| 09:26.40 | cafuego | there's always some windows user who'll break it, otherwise |
| 09:26.50 | simonrvn | or os x |
| 09:27.08 | cafuego | DOes OSX even have /sbin/runlevel? |
| 09:27.16 | caphuso | probably not |
| 09:27.31 | simonrvn | dunno, bu tthey kinda have runlevels, a la bsd |
| 09:27.46 | cafuego | 'who -r' may be more portable |
| 09:28.03 | simonrvn | i've seen os x boot in "verbose" mode, and it seems to go through a bsdish boot sequence |
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| 09:28.22 | gp_ | heh |
| 09:28.30 | cafuego | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:28.30 | Ugly_Duck | what do i need to check to make my usb printer install.. i recently compiled 2.6.5 kernel.. it use to work.. i was sure i compiled the correct usb stuff |
| 09:28.45 | simonrvn | but no display of runlevel like in linux |
| 09:28.52 | caphuso | hmmm |
| 09:28.56 | cafuego | that also shows the previous runlevel. |
| 09:29.02 | simonrvn | "Going to init 2" |
| 09:29.03 | cafuego | So you cna run through BOTH again,. |
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| 09:29.37 | cafuego | ah well, you learn something new every day :-) |
| 09:29.37 | caphuso | has anyone managed to use matroxfb in 2.6.* kernel with a G550 card? |
| 09:29.56 | cafuego | caphuso: No, but it works okayish with a G450. |
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| 09:30.33 | simonrvn | ok, time to build this other kernel. at least i can get rid of preempt |
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| 09:33.02 | debian | simonrvn: last time I saw you having problem with nvidia? |
| 09:33.11 | simonrvn | never |
| 09:33.39 | debian | the othr guy then |
| 09:33.45 | caphuso | cafuego: do you have a module named matroxfb? |
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| 09:33.59 | simonrvn | i do have a problem with nvidia though; others having problems with those cards and me not wanting those headaches ;) |
| 09:34.32 | debian | yeah they sucks |
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| 09:40.05 | nullvoid | hi all |
| 09:40.53 | caphuso | May 10 04:32:09 caphuso smartd[1538]: Device: /dev/hde, SMART Usage Attribute: 1 |
| 09:40.54 | caphuso | 94 Temperature_Celsius changed from 99 to 101 |
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| 09:41.24 | nullvoid | when I make-ssl-cert openssl.cnf apache.pem after finish the debconf, I was asked again to enter Country Name in prompt format, and after entering it. It freez. How do I fix this? |
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| 09:41.27 | jm_ | 99 ? looks a bit high |
| 09:41.38 | caphuso | i really doubt that those values are celsius |
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| 09:41.48 | jm_ | caphuso: what does hddtemp say ? |
| 09:41.59 | caphuso | jm_: 48°C |
| 09:42.38 | caphuso | err no, hde has 42°C |
| 09:42.43 | jm_ | caphuso: yeah more like it |
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| 09:43.10 | simonrvn | @tell chuckyn -about root |
| 09:43.30 | NuBus | dang. that's disappointing. All ready for a HD that's capable of making coffee, and it's all lies. |
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| 09:44.08 | caphuso | NuBus: hehe |
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| 09:44.17 | simonrvn | still on the network, that chuckyn |
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| 09:44.47 | simonrvn | NuBus: :D. well, just wait 'til the HDD gets hotter, then stick a cuppa coffee on top of one ;) |
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| 09:45.33 | simonrvn | later folks |
| 09:45.43 | jm_ | good night |
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| 09:52.38 | JohnFlux_ | Hey all |
| 09:52.47 | JohnFlux_ | I'm trying to setup some security on the servers |
| 09:52.59 | JohnFlux_ | I've got 2 rootkit scanners, and have it patched and uptodate.. |
| 09:53.04 | JohnFlux_ | what else can I do? |
| 09:53.20 | jm_ | uninstall anythinig you don't need |
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| 09:53.49 | JohnFlux_ | there's no unneccesary servers running |
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| 09:54.29 | jm_ | how about software on servers ? |
| 09:54.35 | saloxin | JohnFlux_: install a file integrity checker, like aide or tripwire |
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| 09:55.49 | wl | i wrote a text about a program of mine... someone willing to correct my nasty english? |
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| 09:56.20 | Athon_Solo | JohnFlux: disallow root logins via ftp and ssh. make sure that only users who need it have shell access. If you search the net there's a lot of material on securing linux. |
| 09:56.24 | jm_ | wl: many people will be willing to do that for money :) |
| 09:56.30 | JohnFlux_ | Athon_Solo: done |
| 09:56.32 | JohnFlux_ | saloxin: done |
| 09:56.41 | wl | hmhm |
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| 09:58.04 | Guerin | wl: how long is it? |
| 09:58.11 | wl | ~6 pages |
| 09:58.30 | Guerin | wl: how bad's the english? |
| 09:58.55 | wl | don't know ;-) |
| 09:59.24 | _benj_` | hello, why are my vars not visible in all tty's ? I mean I've created $INFORMIXDIR in the tty1, and in the tty2, "echo $INFORMIXDIR" shows nothing |
| 09:59.24 | wl | you may have a look and if its too bad you can throw it away ;-) |
| 09:59.24 | Guerin | wl: email it to me, I'll take a look - guerin%gmx,net |
| 09:59.40 | wl | Guerin: do you have openoffice? |
| 09:59.45 | jm_ | _benj_`: variables are per process (child processes inherit it from the parent) |
| 09:59.45 | Guerin | wl: I do |
| 09:59.48 | wl | k |
| 09:59.51 | wl | thx |
| 09:59.55 | Guerin | wl: though if you have plain text that's better |
| 09:59.59 | _benj_` | oh, thanks jm_ |
| 10:00.02 | wl | ok |
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| 10:00.20 | _benj_` | but one question, why is $TMP empty ? |
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| 10:01.02 | opp | i cannot view my xchat log files |
| 10:01.34 | Shadur | opp: Dyslexia's a terrible thing |
| 10:02.06 | ricky_clarkson | So is blindity. |
| 10:02.35 | opp | Shadur,ricky_clarkson, ermmm |
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| 10:02.47 | ricky_clarkson | opp, #xchat |
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| 10:03.55 | Shadur | opp: /msg dpkg doesn't work |
| 10:03.55 | rvf | could somebody point me in the right direction regarding fixing the lack of visible fonts in sid's latest KDE? |
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| 10:03.55 | Shadur | opp: If you were hoping for an actually useful answer, may I suggest asking a useful question? I'm told it helps. |
| 10:04.25 | wl | Guerin: mail is out |
| 10:04.26 | saloxin | rvf: #debian-kde might be helpful |
| 10:04.41 | rvf | ok, thanks. |
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| 10:05.34 | Cybercool | Can anyone help me with jigdo? |
| 10:05.49 | karim__ | is there a commend line tool that give the bandwith in real time ? |
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| 10:06.03 | saloxin | karim__: iptraf maybe |
| 10:06.04 | nu_metall | hi all |
| 10:06.35 | saloxin | Cybercool: what's the problem? |
| 10:07.16 | Cybercool | i am working with jigdo, and I want to make a own debian cd. With the packages I want. Now I know that I have to edit the jigdo file but I can't get it work |
| 10:07.26 | nu_metall | can i use the nvidia package "out of the box" or do i have to modify ( not remove dri section, replace "nv" with "nvidia" or such ) or do other thing? |
| 10:07.29 | NetGrunt | Hi, I made a disk image with "dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/tmp/image.img" Now I want to mount this image, does anybody know how to doit ? Should I use the loop mount thing ? |
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| 10:08.03 | Guerin | wl: roger that, I'll get it back to you soonish |
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| 10:08.15 | saloxin | nu_metall: you have to edit XF86Config-4 as per /usr/share/doc/NVIDIA-GLX/README |
| 10:08.16 | nu_metall | NetGrunt: mount -o loop discimage.iso /mnt/to/point |
| 10:08.22 | wl | Guerin: k, and thx again |
| 10:08.27 | tarbaz | hi all; how can i give static ip ? |
| 10:08.29 | saloxin | NetGrunt: mount image.img /somedir -o loop |
| 10:08.38 | PerfDave | tarbaz: Give to waht? |
| 10:08.51 | NetGrunt | yeah! It works, thanks dudes |
| 10:08.57 | tarbaz | i must assign mauel ip number |
| 10:09.07 | tarbaz | mauel = manuel |
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| 10:09.26 | PerfDave | tarbaz: To a network interface? |
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| 10:09.33 | nu_metall | saloxin: i've installed the nvidia package several time at home on a red hat box. now i have to do it again with a debian unstable box at work. i never used debian much |
| 10:09.37 | tarbaz | but how |
| 10:09.42 | tarbaz | i am new on linux |
| 10:09.44 | PerfDave | tarbaz: man 5 interfaces |
| 10:09.52 | oobe | /j #poo |
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| 10:10.05 | tarbaz | ok i'll look there |
| 10:10.19 | Baudelaire | Could someone help me out here? |
| 10:10.34 | PerfDave | Baudelaire: Probably not, but we'll have a go ;) |
| 10:10.37 | nptb | #debian-kde is silent - any takers on no fonts in sid kde? |
| 10:10.40 | nu_metall | Baudelaire: what's your prob? |
| 10:10.40 | saloxin | nu_metall: you already stated most of what you have to do in your question. start there? |
| 10:10.42 | nullvoid | which file the make-ssl-cert read beside openssl.cnf (template) ? |
| 10:10.44 | Baudelaire | I'm trying to find the name of that project that's trying to rewrite the window manager, and essentially update XFree86 |
| 10:10.54 | Baudelaire | not update |
| 10:10.55 | Baudelaire | replace |
| 10:11.02 | nu_metall | Baudelaire: afauk. xorg |
| 10:11.08 | nu_metall | x.org |
| 10:11.26 | saloxin | Baudelaire: or freedesktop.org |
| 10:11.27 | PerfDave | Baudelaire: XFree86 is an X server, not a window manager. x.org and FreeDesktop are working on a replacement X serer, as are several others (I think Xouvert is one too). |
| 10:11.41 | Baudelaire | Thanks :) |
| 10:11.45 | Baudelaire | Yeah, I'm a linux newb |
| 10:11.51 | Baudelaire | Appreciate the help |
| 10:12.33 | housetier | after a failed attempt to burn an .iso image the drive is somehow (b)locked. How can I unlock it? Is there a way to reset it? |
| 10:12.36 | nu_metall | saloxin: i've heard about some problems using the original nvidia package. don't know for sure, thats why i ask |
| 10:12.42 | Baudelaire | Would you call XFree86 a window system? I'm having an arguement with a guy and that's what he says it is |
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| 10:13.48 | nu_metall | housetier: a cdrecorde -dev=yourdev -reset should work |
| 10:13.58 | nptb | anyone here running kde on unstable? |
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| 10:15.14 | PerfDave | Baudelaire: Hmm, my terminology runs dry here. IIRC "The X Window System" is the protocol and API, currently at X11 Release 6, which is implemented by the XFree86 X server. But I could be talking out of my arse, I'm sure that x.org and xfree86.org could tell you more ;) |
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| 10:15.22 | housetier | nu_metall, sadly cdrecord can not do that: "cdrecord: Input/output error. Cannot reset target." I wonder if a reboot would help... Or is there another way? |
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| 10:15.42 | Baudelaire | PerfDave, thanks ^_^ |
| 10:16.27 | nu_metall | housetier: not sure. if anything fails, reboot ;) |
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| 10:16.40 | saloxin | housetier: eject cd? |
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| 10:16.54 | tarbaz | i didnt won |
| 10:17.03 | sciboy | Hi, how do i enable my normal account permission to use parport0? |
| 10:17.13 | tarbaz | whic file must edit for manuel assign ip addresses ? |
| 10:17.19 | caphuso | tarbaz: man 5 interfaces |
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| 10:17.48 | tarbaz | caphuso i found and read it but i get confused |
| 10:17.57 | tarbaz | i didnt sure what i do ? |
| 10:18.16 | housetier | nu_metall, I found it! "cdrdao unlock --device 0,1,0" did the job. Thanks for your hint :) |
| 10:18.18 | tarbaz | is there another way ? |
| 10:18.19 | caphuso | tarbaz: try reading /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz |
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| 10:18.30 | tarbaz | ok thanks |
| 10:18.39 | housetier | saloxin, there is no ejecting when the cdrom (tray) is locked... but its solved now anyway :) |
| 10:19.58 | sertmann | anyone know how to mount .bin images? |
| 10:20.53 | sciboy | How do i allow normal user access to parport? |
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| 10:20.53 | NetGrunt | tarbaz, if you want to manually assing an ip addres ... "ifconfig eth0 up DESIREDIP" |
| 10:20.53 | Shadur | sertmann: man mount |
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| 10:20.53 | caphuso | sciboy: by making clever use of unix groups |
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| 10:20.54 | nu_metall | re |
| 10:21.06 | sciboy | caphuso, And how would i go about doing this? |
| 10:21.10 | nu_metall | saloxin: the nvidia package works fine |
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| 10:21.18 | Subvertir | Hi |
| 10:21.25 | tca_ | I'm trying to setup wireless lan on a centrino based notebook. The cabeled network card is eth0. Is the writeless card always eth1? Is there a way to check this? |
| 10:21.26 | Subvertir | Any debian developers in here: you guys fucking rock, tyvm |
| 10:21.37 | caphuso | sciboy: by reading a unix introduction book, for example |
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| 10:22.51 | nu_metall | ok, next question. how do i get a different user that only can use mozilla without a windowmanager or any other else |
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| 10:23.09 | NetGrunt | tca_, i'm not sure about it, but i'd say NO ... because it's not ethernetr technology |
| 10:23.13 | Subvertir | nu_metall, you could put mozilla in ~/.xinitrc for that user |
| 10:23.18 | NetGrunt | eth1 = second ethernet interface card |
| 10:23.26 | Subvertir | nu_metall, and deny him execute privs on anything other than mozilla =P |
| 10:23.36 | NetGrunt | wlan0 sounds more logical to me |
| 10:23.40 | Subvertir | Maybe a copy of gaim or something, too. |
| 10:24.13 | darsie | Hi! I can't login to my wu-imapd: "NO LOGIN failed" after apt-get dist-upgrade?! |
| 10:24.22 | nu_metall | Subvertir: the box should act as a internet terminal here at work. maybe evolution should run too. but i'm not sure at the moment |
| 10:24.47 | Subvertir | nu_metall, you could prolly make a chroot for that if you're really paranoid |
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| 10:25.13 | Subvertir | But otherwise I'd probably just use fluxbox/blackbox with a simple menu... |
| 10:25.20 | Subvertir | and xdm. |
| 10:25.42 | sciboy | caphuso, Fixed it :P |
| 10:25.47 | petemc | nu_metall: you should google for "linux kiosk" |
| 10:25.57 | sciboy | caphuso, just had to chmod /dev/parport0 to 666 :P |
| 10:26.10 | nu_metall | petemc: i'll do |
| 10:26.17 | Subvertir | yah there's a lot of good docs out there |
| 10:26.31 | sciboy | caphuso, Even scarier was the fact that i figured it out myself :P... I am a n00b, i'm not suppose to be able to do that! |
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| 10:26.37 | karim__ | is there a way I can select a base miror on the fly without chaging all the sources.list file ? |
| 10:26.41 | caphuso | sciboy: NO! |
| 10:26.52 | caphuso | sciboy: that's not a fix, that's stupidity |
| 10:26.54 | sciboy | caphuso: what? |
| 10:26.59 | tca_ | iwconfig reports four devices: lo, eth0, eth1 and sit0. For all four it say "no wireless extensions" |
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| 10:27.20 | sciboy | caphuso: So? What are they gonnah do to my computer from a fricken parallel port :P |
| 10:27.27 | petemc | tca_: have you downloaded and compiled drivers for your card |
| 10:27.35 | NetGrunt | tca_, did you load the driver for your wireless card ? |
| 10:27.41 | caphuso | sciboy: the question is what they are doing to do to your parallel port from your computer |
| 10:27.45 | Subvertir | I had a similar setup to that in my bedroom...except I used xdmcp and an ~/.xinitrc that just ran xmms, so I could play music from my bed |
| 10:27.50 | karim__ | is there a way I can select a base miror on the fly without chaging all the sources.list file ? |
| 10:27.50 | tca_ | Yes. And modprobind the drivers works fine. |
| 10:28.01 | Subvertir | x2x too, so I could control that copy of xmms from the desk =D |
| 10:28.06 | sciboy | caphuso: Its a scanner... |
| 10:28.11 | caphuso | sciboy: great |
| 10:28.14 | caphuso | sciboy: really great |
| 10:28.16 | sciboy | caphuso: Not much of a security risk there :P |
| 10:28.19 | NetGrunt | tca_Â : type "dmesg | grep -i wi" and see if it says something about your card |
| 10:28.25 | petemc | karim__: during the install? you can edit it directly from the installer |
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| 10:28.37 | caphuso | sciboy: oh, destroying your scanner isn't something you'd like to prevent? |
| 10:28.47 | sciboy | caphuso: No :P |
| 10:28.55 | karim__ | petemc: not during the install, I am searching for a faster mirror and want to try different ones |
| 10:28.56 | sciboy | caphuso: This thing has a warranty ^^ |
| 10:29.04 | petemc | karim__: apt-spy |
| 10:29.08 | caphuso | sciboy: you're a dumbass |
| 10:29.22 | tca_ | Fuck! I booted into the wrong kernels. Lets try again :-( |
| 10:29.22 | sciboy | caphuso, why? |
| 10:29.40 | caphuso | sciboy: because you're a stupid little cluebie. now shut up and go far away |
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| 10:30.14 | sciboy | caphuso, that doesn't explain the situation to me :P |
| 10:31.11 | caphuso | sciboy: the situation is as this: now everyone with access to your computer can destroy your scanner. how more obvious does it need to be to get you to understand that this is a Bad Thing? |
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| 10:31.52 | sciboy | caphuso, I am the only person who uses this computer, everyone else who tries to use it, has no clue what linux even is! |
| 10:31.54 | Subvertir | yah I've been rooted before =( |
| 10:31.55 | Subvertir | it's no fun |
| 10:31.57 | caphuso | sciboy: bullshit |
| 10:32.00 | karim__ | petemc: argh I don't have this package on my distro |
| 10:32.03 | Subvertir | I was running bind, story of my life =( |
| 10:32.14 | sciboy | caphuso, I am the only linux user in the house :P |
| 10:32.20 | caphuso | sciboy: you're maybe _now_ the only one |
| 10:32.23 | NetGrunt | Subvertir, was it chrooted ? |
| 10:32.30 | sciboy | caphuso, Everyone else is using windows xp :( |
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| 10:32.35 | Subvertir | NetGrunt, yes |
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| 10:32.38 | Subvertir | But it was also my nat box |
| 10:32.43 | caphuso | sciboy: fuck |
| 10:32.47 | NetGrunt | and they broke the chroot jail ? |
| 10:32.53 | caphuso | sciboy: i take that dumbass back, you're much worse |
| 10:32.56 | Subvertir | and managed to own my desktop, too =P |
| 10:33.04 | caphuso | don't wanna insult all the other dumbasses around |
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| 10:33.41 | sparkyz | Knoppix is not debian but it is based on debian : ) |
| 10:34.03 | petemc | sparkyz: what a revelation |
| 10:34.07 | sparkyz | hehe |
| 10:34.13 | sparkyz | well its in response to that last message |
| 10:34.18 | sparkyz | from the chanserv. |
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| 10:34.52 | sparkyz | oh well, I just wanted to know where I'd control what starts up at bootup |
| 10:34.56 | arturaz | kernel 2.6.6 alive |
| 10:35.10 | sparkyz | is it somewhere in init.d? |
| 10:35.22 | caphuso | sparkyz: read /etc/init.d/README |
| 10:35.33 | sparkyz | if I have one : ) |
| 10:35.35 | Subvertir | You guys think linux 3.0 will be here when longhorn arrives? |
| 10:35.35 | sparkyz | let me check |
| 10:35.44 | sparkyz | ..haha it better ; ) |
| 10:35.47 | Shadur | Subvertir: Will we care? |
| 10:35.50 | sciboy | caphuso, even worse, my dads a VB programmer :P |
| 10:35.53 | Subvertir | An even better question |
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| 10:36.29 | housetier | suse is selling linux 9 already! ;) |
| 10:36.34 | sparkyz | hahaha |
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| 10:36.58 | sparkyz | the guys at suse must of been programming the kernel on speed or something ;) |
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| 10:37.10 | NetGrunt | Subvertir, I think it's a strange question ... since there's no fixed date for longhorn release |
| 10:37.36 | sparkyz | ..its apparently 2005/6 ...but the boys at microshaft dont really wanna make any promisies |
| 10:37.39 | ricky_clarkson | What is longhorn? |
| 10:37.43 | sparkyz | NT6 |
| 10:37.56 | ricky_clarkson | Oh, I don't play games. |
| 10:37.58 | sparkyz | i.e. the new version of windows.... |
| 10:38.03 | NetGrunt | hahahaha ricky |
| 10:38.10 | caphuso | Longhorn \Long"horn`\, n. |
| 10:38.15 | endrju | "nt six" sounds like "nt sux" |
| 10:38.21 | caphuso | 1. vaporware. See {Microsoft}. |
| 10:38.21 | sparkyz | yup |
| 10:38.31 | sparkyz | thats why I said that as opposed to longstick |
| 10:38.57 | Subvertir | well there's no fixed linux 3.0 date either =P |
| 10:39.03 | Subvertir | It's just pure speculation at it's finest |
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| 10:39.31 | sparkyz | I wonder when kde/gnome will be as 'easy to use' as windows xp..i.e integrated cd burning, iso loading etc (without loading all the seperate plugins) |
| 10:39.38 | opp | whats a good p2p client for file sharing on linux?? |
| 10:39.40 | NuBus | Is everything going to be version 9 now? I feel like releasing a beta of -something- just to call it version 9. |
| 10:39.46 | ricky_clarkson | sparkyz: When you've finished writing all that stuff. |
| 10:40.01 | sparkyz | someone else will do it ricky |
| 10:40.07 | sparkyz | amule is a good p2p proggie |
| 10:40.16 | ricky_clarkson | sparkyz: Really?! |
| 10:40.18 | nu_metall | what nickame does "unstable" have? |
| 10:40.22 | caphuso | nu_metall: sid |
| 10:40.24 | sparkyz | NT6 |
| 10:40.27 | nvz | NuBus: so far limewire is the best of the working I've found.. but its java |
| 10:40.41 | nvz | opp: ^ |
| 10:40.53 | ricky_clarkson | I think the reason Gnome and KDE aren't as usable as Windows is because its developers don't require such ease of use. |
| 10:41.04 | Penix | and because people like sparkyz exist |
| 10:41.04 | sparkyz | or they are plain lazy ;) |
| 10:41.10 | aZ[a]ZeL | I like apollon |
| 10:41.10 | ricky_clarkson | nvz: why, wasup with Java? |
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| 10:41.20 | aZ[a]ZeL | but pretty much all the p2p clients suck at this point |
| 10:41.23 | nvz | ricky_clarkson: its slow |
| 10:41.26 | sparkyz | settle down Penix |
| 10:41.40 | aZ[a]ZeL | I'm using dcgui atm because there is more stuff on DC than fasttrack |
| 10:41.59 | Penix | !+gift |
| 10:41.59 | dpkg | gift is, like, a modular peer-to-peer file sharing daemon, with plugins for OpenFT and Gnutella, and others unofficially (including FastTrack). Now in sid! ubersimple! See also gift.sourceforge.net and channels #gift and #gift-fasttrack. |
| 10:42.00 | opp | nvz, lime wire?? |
| 10:42.09 | caphuso | it's very different from the other diskworld novels |
| 10:42.20 | opp | whata newsreader, i read somewhere u can file share iso's thru it |
| 10:42.22 | aZ[a]ZeL | haven't found a DC plugin for gift yet... |
| 10:42.22 | opp | how come |
| 10:42.31 | opp | it doesnt just read the news??? |
| 10:42.39 | housetier | opp, also try mldonkey see /topic #mldonkey for mor info |
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| 10:42.54 | aZ[a]ZeL | I couldn't get mldonkey to work... |
| 10:43.12 | Subvertir | Try GiFT. gift.sf.net |
| 10:43.17 | Tokeiito | hello |
| 10:43.18 | Subvertir | It supports kazaa =) |
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| 10:43.21 | opp | housetier, so how many ways are there to file share??in linux |
| 10:43.25 | Subvertir | google for gift-fasttrack |
| 10:43.31 | aZ[a]ZeL | opp: 10,000 |
| 10:43.35 | opp | lol |
| 10:43.54 | housetier | more than you can shake a stick at %-) |
| 10:43.56 | aZ[a]ZeL | opp: there is the donkey, emule etc networks as well.. and gnutella... |
| 10:43.57 | sys64738 | Does anyone care to reccomend a good WAP email server/front end? |
| 10:44.06 | aZ[a]ZeL | but mldonkey/gift aim to support multiple protocols |
| 10:44.12 | Subvertir | and fasttrack adn openFT |
| 10:44.16 | Subvertir | gift already does it |
| 10:44.17 | aZ[a]ZeL | so you can use one front end.. |
| 10:44.52 | aZ[a]ZeL | searches never seem to turn up enough stuff for me with gift/fasttrak |
| 10:45.04 | Tokeiito | when i'm tryinng to install Progeny Debian, i get this error: <...>Running /sbin/loader {} Running anaconda, The Progeny Debian system installer – please wait... {} Exec: bad address {} Install exited abnormally {} Sending termination signals... done || How to fix it? In my PC there are: WinXP and Mandrake 10. I was planning Debian install stead Mandrake, Boot loader – Lillo. |
| 10:45.05 | opp | ftp vs donkey |
| 10:45.08 | opp | whos faster?? |
| 10:45.11 | aZ[a]ZeL | ftp isn't p2p |
| 10:45.26 | aZ[a]ZeL | server/client |
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| 10:45.37 | Subvertir | and it doesn't support multi-source downloading |
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| 10:48.00 | Guerin | Tokeiito: Progeny ain't Debian |
| 10:48.04 | nu_metall | re |
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| 10:48.20 | loooksaus | hm, I can't seem to get locales(!) installed in Sarge |
| 10:48.28 | nu_metall | what means "The following packages have been kept back:" while "apt-get dist-upgrade"? |
| 10:48.31 | loooksaus | it's complaining about glibc |
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| 10:48.35 | caphuso | nu_metall: /msg dpkg kept back |
| 10:48.35 | Tokeiito | xm. But its name - Progeny Debian 2.0 |
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| 10:49.39 | Guerin | Tokeiito: Don't let that fool ya - it's based on debian, but debian it ain't. Also, the installer is the main thing which SPECIFICALLY isn't debian - it's based on anaconda, from red hat. |
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| 10:49.49 | loooksaus | aigarius, the baltic developer that came to brussels in april? |
| 10:49.59 | Tokeiito | i see |
| 10:50.50 | aigarius | loooksaus, yep |
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| 10:51.26 | Guerin | Just as an aside: How does Progeny get to use the debian name in their distro? Isn't that some sort of trademark thing? |
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| 10:51.48 | Subvertir | The guy who started projeny is also one of the creators of debian =P |
| 10:52.24 | Tokeiito | i can see that u don't know how to resolve this prblm? |
| 10:52.43 | aZ[a]ZeL | like using Linux in Red Hat Linux... ? Linus lets it slide.. or grants them permission to use the trademark.. *shrugs* |
| 10:52.45 | loooksaus | aigarius, nice to meet you again :) |
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| 10:53.32 | Guerin | Tokeiito: The people in #redhat or #fedora might know... they use anaconda, so the errors might be the same. Otherwise, Progeny itself might have an irc room or mailing list you can ask |
| 10:53.39 | aigarius | loooksaus, nice to meet you too :) |
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| 10:56.34 | karim__ | ho wdo I apply a diff file ? |
| 10:56.38 | karim__ | onn a directory |
| 10:56.41 | aZ[a]ZeL | anyone know of a program that will open a secure shell and accept commands given to it over "write" ? |
| 10:56.52 | aZ[a]ZeL | patch -p0 < file.diff |
| 10:57.00 | aZ[a]ZeL | man patch |
| 10:57.07 | sciboy | caphuso, why won't my irc app allow me to access irc when i am logged in as root? |
| 10:57.18 | aZ[a]ZeL | I was thinking of hacking a program together in perl.. but if one already exists... |
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| 10:57.30 | Guerin | sciboy: because it loves you |
| 10:57.37 | Guerin | sciboy: and it doesn't want to see you get hurt |
| 10:57.38 | jm_ | aZ[a]ZeL: ssh ? |
| 10:58.28 | caphuso | sciboy: because it's way more intelligent than you are |
| 10:58.50 | jm_ | that's a classic comment |
| 10:58.56 | jm_ | or class for now |
| 10:59.06 | Shadur | sciboy: because IRCing as root is a hideously bad idea. |
| 10:59.15 | Shadur | Ask apt about root |
| 10:59.31 | loooksaus | hm, since questions are never stupid, I'll try to ask something |
| 10:59.57 | aZ[a]ZeL | jm_: no no.. I want it to use ssh.. basically.. I want to leave a machine logged in somewhere over ssh.. then from that remote computer.. be able to issue the ssh computer commands using the write command |
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| 11:00.07 | loooksaus | if the answer is trivial to you, please don't rub it into my face... |
| 11:00.31 | loooksaus | I'm running Sarge, and I'm trying to install locales |
| 11:00.47 | loooksaus | but it complains about the glibc package not being installable |
| 11:00.59 | loooksaus | the libc6 package is, ibviously |
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| 11:01.26 | loooksaus | any idea what I should do about it? |
| 11:01.33 | Guerin | loooksaus: you must be trying to install locales from a different tree of debian - ie, from sid or woody? |
| 11:01.38 | sciboy | What does setuid do? |
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| 11:02.09 | rich_ | hi |
| 11:02.11 | jm_ | aZ[a]ZeL: well any shell reads from stdin |
| 11:02.12 | Guerin | s/tree/branch/ |
| 11:02.17 | loooksaus | Guerin, I don't know if this is relevant, but I used debootstrap |
| 11:02.23 | loooksaus | to install testing |
| 11:02.26 | caphuso | sciboy: info "File permissions" |
| 11:02.34 | loooksaus | and only testing |
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| 11:02.43 | aZ[a]ZeL | damn, perldoc is down |
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| 11:03.08 | aZ[a]ZeL | jm_: I don't think you understand what I mean... |
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| 11:03.13 | sciboy | !info File Permissions |
| 11:03.17 | briareus | hey all, I tried to link kernel.h to kernel.h-2.6.x in /boot to fix what looked like a broken link, causing kernel panic (no init found try passing init on to kernel) but it still panics, and when i go bak and look in /boot, the link is broken (red) again. |
| 11:03.29 | Guerin | loooksaus: what libc6 do you have? |
| 11:03.34 | jm_ | aZ[a]ZeL: probably not |
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| 11:03.56 | jm_ | briareus: kernel.h ? /boot ? link ? |
| 11:04.07 | loooksaus | ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-12 GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone |
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| 11:04.26 | briareus | yeah kernel.h ir red and looks like its supposed to b elinked to kernel.h-2.6.x |
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| 11:04.44 | jm_ | sciboy: no, "info File permissions" in shell |
| 11:05.06 | jm_ | briareus: no, that's certainly not a reason for a panic |
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| 11:05.18 | Guerin | loooksaus: and when you go toinstall locales, does it want another version? |
| 11:05.42 | loooksaus | Guerin, it complains it needs 'glibc', not libc6 |
| 11:05.45 | briareus | well, its the only thing I can tell might be wrong, error message says no init found, try poassing init option to kernel |
| 11:06.00 | jm_ | no init found can be caused by several reasons |
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| 11:06.15 | loooksaus | ah, wait a minute, I overlooked |
| 11:06.38 | loooksaus | it wants glibc-2.3.2.ds1-11 |
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| 11:07.08 | Guerin | loooksaus: sorry, missed that above |
| 11:07.14 | loooksaus | Guerin, not that this solves my problen, though |
| 11:07.23 | Faust | Hi there - someone around who knows about ant? I just don't get a solution for bug #238674 - there a two proposed in the BTS, but they don't work for me :( |
| 11:07.27 | Guerin | loooksaus: bizarre |
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| 11:08.32 | loooksaus | Guerin, any suggestions? |
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| 11:09.06 | thoreauputic | Faust: ask Mephistopheles - he knows everything |
| 11:09.06 | loooksaus | I'd rather not force anything if possible |
| 11:09.14 | Guerin | loooksaus: AFAIK, they're the same - glibc and libc6, I mean |
| 11:09.17 | Beltzer | Is there any Asterisk Experts in here? |
| 11:09.35 | Faust | thoreauputic: Somehow, he isn't around :) |
| 11:09.39 | loooksaus | so you'd just suggest me to force things a bit? |
| 11:09.43 | Guerin | loooksaus: so I can't think why it would want the other |
| 11:09.51 | Guerin | loooksaus: I'd suggest nothing like that yet |
| 11:09.55 | Guerin | !glibc |
| 11:09.55 | dpkg | [glibc] at http://www.imaxx.net/~thrytis/glibc/index.old.html. GNU libc, also known as libc6 in the Linux universe. |
| 11:09.58 | Guerin | !libc6 |
| 11:09.58 | dpkg | from memory, libc6 is the GNU C library version 2, which Debian uses since 2.0 . |
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| 11:10.11 | thoreauputic | Faust: I guess you didn't let him get your soul, eh ? |
| 11:10.17 | Guerin | Hrm, that was helpful |
| 11:10.33 | loooksaus | well, if it's a packaging bug, I'd rather report it |
| 11:10.38 | Faust | thoreauputic: No, not yet - and if I don, who knows, perhaps I'll be saved in the end! |
| 11:10.40 | loooksaus | than trying to force anything |
| 11:10.50 | jm_ | loooksaus: which version of locales is it installing ? because it certainly wants libc6, version 2.3.2.ds1-12 |
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| 11:11.04 | jm_ | and not -11 like you said |
| 11:11.05 | thoreauputic | Faust: I seem to recall it all ended rather badly... |
| 11:11.10 | mephisto | hi all |
| 11:11.14 | Guerin | loooksaus: that's probably wise, but ask someone more knowledgeable than me before reporting it |
| 11:11.29 | Faust | thoreauputic: well, in the end of Faust II he gets saved... |
| 11:11.35 | Guerin | jm_: no, it wants 2.3.2.ds1-11, he has 12 installed |
| 11:11.35 | thoreauputic | Faust: speak of mephisto and he appears... |
| 11:11.41 | jm_ | Guerin: no it doesn't |
| 11:11.49 | jm_ | Guerin: http://packages.debian.org/testing/base/locales |
| 11:11.53 | loooksaus | I have libc6 ds1-11 |
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| 11:12.11 | Faust | thoreauputic: Yeah, there even is a mephisto around here :) |
| 11:12.17 | Guerin | jm_: fair enough, I'm just going off what he said |
| 11:12.19 | loooksaus | sorry, libc6 v12 |
| 11:12.32 | Guerin | <loooksaus> it wants glibc-2.3.2.ds1-11 |
| 11:12.33 | loooksaus | and locales v11 |
| 11:12.43 | jm_ | he's utterly confused and doesn't know what he's doing |
| 11:12.45 | jm_ | no |
| 11:12.49 | jm_ | see above |
| 11:12.53 | Faust | No solution for #238674? I have to use ant ... |
| 11:13.13 | loooksaus | jm_ , I'm most certainly not confused, just mistyped |
| 11:13.21 | loooksaus | one character |
| 11:13.29 | thoreauputic | Faust: I think Goethe got it wrong... |
| 11:13.31 | loooksaus | and corrected immediately afterwards |
| 11:14.08 | Faust | thoreauputic: If you think so - in fact I haven't been to heaven nor hell yet, so I can't tell you where he is :D |
| 11:14.21 | Guerin | regardless, if he's installed a pure testing system, then can't install other stuff from the testing tree, it's a packaging bug which would seem to need reporting |
| 11:14.40 | thoreauputic | hehe... just don't sign anything in blood and you should be safe... |
| 11:14.57 | Beltzer | Someone who as worked with Asterisk before??? |
| 11:15.08 | Faust | thoreauputic: thanks for the hint *g* |
| 11:15.30 | thoreauputic | Faust: Bless you, my son...;) |
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| 11:15.36 | Faust | OK, I'll try later - I have to pay for every minute online.... |
| 11:15.38 | loooksaus | jm_, could my problem be that something went wrong in debootstrap? |
| 11:15.41 | Faust | thoreauputic: *g* |
| 11:15.44 | mephisto | does anyone accidently know how to disable the keypad function on a thinkpad ? |
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| 11:15.47 | Musik | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:15.47 | Musik | eve something like this? |
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| 11:15.59 | loooksaus | that the libc6 part worked, but the locales failed? |
| 11:16.05 | jm_ | loooksaus: did you look at the URL I pasted ? |
| 11:16.15 | loooksaus | oh, sorry, must have missed that |
| 11:16.23 | loooksaus | thx for your help! |
| 11:16.30 | jm_ | loooksaus: http://packages.debian.org/testing/base/locales |
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| 11:18.17 | opp | whas a good automaticatic p2p downnload p2p client? |
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| 11:19.17 | Guerin | opp: we went through all this last time you asked |
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| 11:19.41 | c0nd0r | hello ive got a problem with debian testing and my nic ( fa311 needs natsemi ) i compiled 2.6.5kernel with natsemi driver but when i boot my nic doesnt show up with ifconfig i can do ifconfig eth0 up but it has no ip then ( dhcp; the dhcp server works ) modprobe natsemi says : qm_modules: function not implemented: any ideas ? |
| 11:20.02 | caphuso | !+qm_modules |
| 11:20.02 | dpkg | install module-init-tools, or <Justin_> like I said a while ago, it should be QM_ID10T_MODULES |
| 11:20.03 | jm_ | c0nd0r: /msg dpkg qm_modules |
| 11:20.10 | rich_ | opp You know Ive found that they arent made for newbies. I mean you tell them the best one that does everything they need and they keep asking which makes me think they want something that spoon feeds them the files. But anyway Id recomend dcgui, and dont give up on it too quickly. |
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| 11:20.30 | c0nd0r | k jm_ ill try :P |
| 11:20.56 | jm_ | that reminds me, I have burned knoppix 3.4 which has 2.6 kernel, will try it at home |
| 11:21.05 | c0nd0r | hm how should i install them without a working internet connection !?!?!? |
| 11:21.20 | jm_ | you seem to have no problems chatting to us using the internet |
| 11:21.27 | c0nd0r | .. windows box |
| 11:21.58 | caphuso | c0nd0r: uh, boot back into your working 2.4 kernel |
| 11:22.16 | c0nd0r | eh might be an idea :) |
| 11:22.18 | jm_ | well download it now, doh |
| 11:22.23 | Shadur | qm_idiot_forgot_to_install_module_init_tools |
| 11:22.23 | jm_ | packages.debian.org |
| 11:22.44 | tarbaz | i need a internetcafe program |
| 11:22.50 | c0nd0r | shadur please not so friendly |
| 11:23.02 | caphuso | Shadur: yeah, you need to be more insulting |
| 11:23.04 | tarbaz | it must be control linux and windowz os |
| 11:23.06 | jm_ | tarbaz: what's that, a porn screen saver ? |
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| 11:23.15 | tarbaz | no no |
| 11:23.24 | jm_ | what then ? |
| 11:23.38 | tarbaz | i have an internetcafe |
| 11:23.44 | caphuso | oh no |
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| 11:24.01 | tarbaz | and i want to use management program |
| 11:24.12 | tarbaz | is there any program ? |
| 11:24.18 | tarbaz | for cyber cafes ? |
| 11:24.25 | caphuso | a "management program"? |
| 11:24.37 | tarbaz | cyber cafe program |
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| 11:25.16 | briareus | i can write one, but I need to install a backdoor in it for "safety" |
| 11:25.20 | briareus | jk |
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| 11:25.30 | caphuso | what the hell is a "cyber cafe management program"? |
| 11:25.39 | caphuso | and what's it supposed to do? |
| 11:26.01 | tarbaz | it must supposed debian and xp |
| 11:26.06 | caphuso | disconnect the connection after an hour? |
| 11:26.06 | tarbaz | is there any ? |
| 11:26.10 | caphuso | tarbaz: any WHAT? |
| 11:26.30 | tarbaz | is there any cyber cafe program ? |
| 11:26.31 | caphuso | tarbaz: how long does it take you to realize that nobody knows what you are talking about? |
| 11:26.37 | briareus | caphuso: cant you read? "it must supposed debian and xp" |
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| 11:26.41 | tarbaz | it supposed debian and xp os |
| 11:26.41 | briareus | hehe |
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| 11:27.13 | caphuso | tarbaz: so, now you've got some time thinking of a real question. do "/msg dpkg smart questions" |
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| 11:29.20 | pbm | tarbaz: Never tried them but search for "internet cafe" on freshmeat.net finds a few possible programs |
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| 11:31.42 | veleno | anyone with nforce2 chipset, running 2.6.5, has a stable system with acpi on ? |
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| 11:32.19 | haekan | how do i upgrade my kernel to 2.6 ? |
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| 11:32.42 | SlayerXP | haekan: see the kernel HOWTO |
| 11:32.56 | haekan | where is that? |
| 11:33.11 | Penix | haekan: email linus and ask him to send you a copy, ofcourse. how else |
| 11:33.23 | ricky_clarkson | haekan: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.whatever.you.want |
| 11:33.26 | haekan | ok |
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| 11:33.51 | ricky_clarkson | !bash completion |
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| 11:36.26 | veleno | anyone could help me extracting the patch from this page: http://lkml.org/lkml/2004/5/3/168 i don't know from where to what start copying |
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| 11:37.06 | NetGrunt | veleno |
| 11:37.11 | NetGrunt | from here : |
| 11:37.18 | NetGrunt | linux-2.6.6-rc3-bk2-bzolnier/arch/i386/pci/fixup.c | 39 +++++++++++++++++++++ |
| 11:37.25 | spacemind | greetz |
| 11:37.27 | spacemind | i´m heaving some errors in apache, can anyone help me ? |
| 11:37.48 | SlayerXP | spacemind: not if we have to guess what the errors are. |
| 11:37.56 | NetGrunt | to here : }; |
| 11:37.57 | ricky_clarkson | veleno: to the single _ I think. |
| 11:38.05 | spacemind | eheh : ) just ask first |
| 11:38.37 | veleno | NetGrunt, ricky_clarkson: thanks |
| 11:38.56 | spacemind | i have to put a SetEnv inside the httpd.conf (apache 1.3) but it looks like it doen´t work |
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| 11:40.00 | NetGrunt | veleno, sorry I was wrong |
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| 11:40.03 | spacemind | config test: Invalid command 'SetEnv', perhaps mis-spelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration |
| 11:40.04 | ricky_clarkson | veleno: afaik, patch can grab a patch from a file anyway, quite smartly. |
| 11:40.17 | ricky_clarkson | spacemind: setenv |
| 11:40.26 | ricky_clarkson | Oh, sorry, wrong context. |
| 11:40.35 | veleno | ricky_clarkson: what do u mean? |
| 11:40.41 | NetGrunt | veleno, it should be fromthis line -- linux-2.6.6-rc3-bk2/arch/i386/pci/fixup.c~nforce2_fix2004-05-04 00:27:18.114421672 +0200 |
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| 11:41.03 | ricky_clarkson | veleno: the program called patch can extract a patch from a HTML file. |
| 11:41.17 | ricky_clarkson | It is clever. |
| 11:41.26 | Gandlf_LV | hi all |
| 11:41.35 | Gandlf_LV | i need a little help :) |
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| 11:41.41 | Beltzer | sh ip ospf nei |
| 11:41.51 | rabdilno | where can i get mplayer for testing??? |
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| 11:42.06 | Beltzer | sorry wrong screen |
| 11:42.17 | veleno | ricky_clarkson: oh...that's amazing. let it give it a try |
| 11:43.56 | voldy | somebody with experience using webdav on apache, please come to #apache |
| 11:44.04 | rich_ | rabdilno I think if your going to use third party things like mplayer you should compile them yourself anyway. So you might consider useing the third party deb source tree prvided by marrillat (either stable or unstable) and then useing apt-get to compile it into binary packages |
| 11:44.32 | veleno | ricky_clarkson: patch: **** Only garbage was found in the patch input. |
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| 11:44.58 | ricky_clarkson | veleno: try copying the text into a separate file first. |
| 11:45.08 | ricky_clarkson | Maybe it's not actually very good with HTML. |
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| 11:48.23 | veleno | ricky_clarkson: noway. i copy/paste the block of code NetGrunt and u suggested..and patch still reports only garbage |
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| 11:49.25 | ricky_clarkson | veleno: Odd, dunno then, sorry. |
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| 11:50.25 | pbm | velono I think the patch should start with the line: diff...... |
| 11:50.53 | rabdilno | where is the firefox plugin directory? |
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| 11:51.42 | spiekey | hi |
| 11:51.57 | opp | how to see what apps are in apt-get??? |
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| 11:52.10 | spiekey | i am running stable, can i still install the latest *.deb package of proftpd though? will that break my box? |
| 11:52.38 | veleno | pbm: u got the point, thx |
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| 11:52.58 | fflush | spiekey: look for a backport on backports.org |
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| 11:53.26 | pbm | veleno: If my box was tidy and didn't have kernel patches hanging around I wouldn't have got it lol |
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| 11:53.52 | leOn | spiekey: i have proftpd from backports.org on a stable machine. works like a charm. |
| 11:54.14 | spiekey | fflush: so i just add deb http://www.backports.org/debian/ woody proftpd to my sources file and then install it like normal? |
| 11:54.30 | NetGrunt | spiekey, i would better suggest to download it manually |
| 11:54.36 | NetGrunt | you don't want to install all the backports |
| 11:54.47 | spiekey | yo, thats what i tought, too :) |
| 11:54.47 | leOn | NetGrunt: he won't |
| 11:54.48 | veleno | bye everyone. |
| 11:54.50 | NetGrunt | when you do apt-get update/upgrade |
| 11:54.53 | melonman | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:54.54 | leOn | spi: do it like that, yes |
| 11:55.19 | leOn | spiekey: do it like that, yes |
| 11:55.30 | spiekey | what is the difference between proftpd and proftpd-common oder apache and apache-common? |
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| 11:55.58 | jm_ | spiekey: apt-cache show will tell you |
| 11:55.59 | leOn | that way, whenever there is an update on backports, you can automatically get it through apt-get update |
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| 11:59.15 | harsha123 | why is nfs-kernel-server not listening on my 2049/tcp but only on 2049/udp? |
| 11:59.42 | fullets | harsha123: does your kernel have support for nfs using tcp? |
| 11:59.59 | harsha123 | fullets: hmm.. not sure |
| 12:01.02 | knoppix | hi all, short quesion: what is /dev/shm? |
| 12:01.15 | EmleyMoor | shared memory |
| 12:01.24 | knoppix | EmleyMoor, tnx :d |
| 12:01.36 | EmleyMoor | Used by TV cards and the like |
| 12:02.00 | jm_ | that's used by all applications that rely on shared memory IPC mechanism |
| 12:02.17 | EmleyMoor | Yes - not e |
| 12:02.25 | EmleyMoor | not read up on it |
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| 12:04.15 | e-on | hey guys anyone experienced difficulties with KVM switches under debian? |
| 12:04.21 | knoppix | hmm, I don't think I'll make it this way, Let's ask your opinion....... OK, my debian system doesn't boot anymore, I just compiled a new kernel (2.4.18) but when I try to boot, the system restart.. :s How can I fix this? |
| 12:05.11 | knoppix | As you see, I'm using knoppix now.. |
| 12:05.11 | ferret | a new kernel? |
| 12:05.18 | SlayerXP | knoppix: and you're using debian, or knoppix? |
| 12:05.19 | knoppix | ferret: yes |
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| 12:05.28 | knoppix | SlayerXP, debian.. |
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| 12:07.09 | ricky_clarkson | knoppix: What's the last thing your system says before it restarts? |
| 12:07.21 | knoppix | I'm trying to reinstall lilo, but how can I do that with knoppix? Everything seems to be ro, and lilo doesn't like that.... |
| 12:07.25 | EmleyMoor | Does anyne here use ipw2100 in sarge? |
| 12:07.40 | knoppix | ricky_clarkson: don't know, nothing special I think... |
| 12:08.03 | harsha123 | fullets: hmmm how do I enable tcp support for nfs in the kernel? do i need to recompile? |
| 12:08.04 | petemc | knoppix: mount your root filesystem rw, then cd to where its mounted, chroot . , edit lilo.conf and run lilo |
| 12:08.17 | harsha123 | fullets: i use the standard 2.4.18 debian kernel |
| 12:08.20 | knoppix | patemc: OK, tnx, I'm trying... |
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| 12:08.49 | fullets | harsha123: i'm not sure what you would do, i'm unfamiliar with the debian kernel |
| 12:09.11 | harsha123 | fullets: okay.. :-) |
| 12:09.42 | EmleyMoor | Does anyone know how to layout /etc/network/interfaces when defining wireless? |
| 12:09.48 | deejoe | e-on: yes, sometimes |
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| 12:10.00 | rich_ | thanks everyone bbl |
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| 12:10.09 | deejoe | though I don't think it's Debian specific |
| 12:10.12 | fullets | harsha123: i imagine that you will have to recompile though |
| 12:10.16 | knoppix | mount /mnt/debian /dev/hda2 -> /mnt/debian is not a block device ?? How can I do this in knoppix?? |
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| 12:10.26 | harsha123 | fullets: thank you |
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| 12:10.39 | fullets | harsha123: no problem |
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| 12:11.08 | jm_ | knoppix: man mount, you're using it incorrectly |
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| 12:11.36 | pbm | fullets: you may get away with just grabbing the source for that kernel, changing the nfs config and doing make modules_install |
| 12:11.48 | aycaramba | knoppix, reverse it |
| 12:11.52 | knoppix | jm_, I'm always using it like this I think.... It always works ????? What's wrong? |
| 12:11.58 | knoppix | aycaramba: reverse? |
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| 12:12.03 | Cybercool | Does anyone know if there is a way to create a automatic installation just like FAI only with a cd-rom?? |
| 12:12.16 | aycaramba | knoppix, mount -t fstype /dev/hda2 /mnt/debian |
| 12:12.18 | pbm | fullets: try copying /boot/config.kernel version to /usr/src/.config first |
| 12:12.27 | jm_ | knoppix: no you're no, mount [-fnrsvw] [-t vfstype] [-o options] device dir |
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| 12:12.54 | knoppix | jm_: hahahah :D IC, sorry!! |
| 12:12.54 | fullets | harsha123: i don't have a 2.4 kernel handy, but i think the option you'll be looking for is CONFIG_NFSD_TCP |
| 12:13.15 | EmleyMoor | I am going to try a reboot - see if eth1 comes back on its own |
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| 12:13.56 | Condector | hey, anyone know how i need for make my own floppy distro ?? |
| 12:14.09 | caphuso | a floppy and a drive? |
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| 12:15.11 | caphuso | Condector: there are more interesting ways of wasting time than building such mini distros |
| 12:15.14 | Condector | caphuso, yes, i'm try make my own distro... in floppy |
| 12:15.17 | Cybercool | can someone come private if he can tell me something about automatic cd-rom installation (debian_ |
| 12:15.51 | caphuso | Condector: what for? they are pretty much useless nowadays |
| 12:16.19 | bonanati | /server #irc.bhnet.com.br |
| 12:16.24 | bonanati | irc.bhnet.com.br |
| 12:16.41 | briareus | have you seen MenuetOS? that floppy distro ROCKS, alpha transparency, 3d screensavers, chat and ftp clients, awesome |
| 12:16.42 | caphuso | Condector: everything they can do is already done by at least 5 different projects, and the interesting stuff would require several floppies |
| 12:17.19 | Condector | caphuso, humm |
| 12:17.21 | knoppix | grrr, this drives me mad!! ;) mounted /dev/hda2, of course I forgot rw, umount /dev/hda2 -> /dev/hda2: device is busy..... |
| 12:17.39 | Condector | caphuso, if i need make my own version for debian, what i need ?? |
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| 12:19.16 | Condector | caphuso, first, i'm try learn more about make distros.. |
| 12:19.34 | jm_ | Condector: read Linux From Scratch howto |
| 12:19.41 | aycaramba | knoppix, maybe u are still in that mountpoint, or there is an app. running using files from that mountpoint |
| 12:19.47 | Condector | caphuso, Linux from scratch teach |
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| 12:20.04 | Condector | jm_, i know by project linux from scratch |
| 12:20.15 | Condector | jm_, but, distro in floppy ? |
| 12:20.29 | elliotpatwork | knoppix: try lsof | grep hda2 to show open files on the volume |
| 12:20.45 | knoppix | aycaramba: I just figured it out, I usually don't use a GUI, there was some kind of filemanager opened in that mountpoint :s |
| 12:20.51 | briareus | MenuetOS is a cool distro on a floppy, written in assembly, under the GPL |
| 12:20.58 | streuner | Condector: http://www.zelow.no/floppyfw/ or http://www.fli4l.de/ |
| 12:20.59 | Cybercool | doesn't anyone has an answer for my question??? |
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| 12:21.10 | Condector | streuner thanks |
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| 12:21.28 | streuner | Condector: those are for router/gateways |
| 12:21.45 | ricky_clarkson | Cybercool: Learn how to ask questions. |
| 12:21.53 | thoreauputic | Cybercool: problem is, your question wasn't a question |
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| 12:22.11 | FieldySnuts | !ep Cybercool |
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| 12:22.17 | Condector | streuner, hehhe, thank very much |
| 12:22.20 | FieldySnuts | or not. |
| 12:22.22 | SpaceMathieu | Hello, do I have to put anything in SMTPLISTENEROPTIONS (/etc/default/exim4) for exim4 to enable CRAM-MD5 and TLS on my SMTP ? |
| 12:22.30 | FieldySnuts | wow engrish? |
| 12:22.37 | Cybercool | ?? |
| 12:22.39 | Cybercool | oke again!! |
| 12:22.50 | knoppix | How can I mount rw from the commandline? I usually edit /etc/fstab, but that's not possible in knoppix... |
| 12:23.03 | Cybercool | Is there a way to create an automatic cd installation like FAI, if someone knows something, can he come private?? |
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| 12:23.13 | petemc | knoppix: mount /dev/whatever /mnt/wherever should be sufficient |
| 12:23.13 | streuner | Condector: take a look at the first URL, if you want to make your own distro... |
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| 12:23.35 | aycaramba | knoppix, i guess u really should take a look at man mount |
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| 12:23.46 | Condector | streuner, thanks again.. i'm read this documentation now! |
| 12:24.02 | knoppix | aycaramba: yeh, you're right.... I'm having a look.. |
| 12:24.04 | streuner | Condector: Have fun! |
| 12:24.05 | ricky_clarkson | knoppix: man mount |
| 12:24.18 | knoppix | ricky_clarkson: yeh, ic... |
| 12:24.33 | EmleyMoor | I now have a happy wireless configuration, but based on the following assumptions: (a) the wireless interface is eth1, which is only true when the computer is plugged into the mains at boot time (b) I am on my friend's AP, which is only true at his house. I am wondering if there is a way I can auto-detect my way around all of this. |
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| 12:25.43 | pbm | knoppix: user options -o remount,rw |
| 12:26.23 | jm_ | EmleyMoor: apt-cache search network detect |
| 12:26.25 | knoppix | :) mounted! at last ;).... ey that chroot is cool! |
| 12:26.29 | ricky_clarkson | EmleyMoor: You can control (a) even if the computer is not plugged into the mains at boot time. |
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| 12:27.41 | knoppix | grrr..... knoppix doesn't have nano!! :(:( |
| 12:27.55 | briareus | use vi |
| 12:27.57 | FieldySnuts | whine to #knoppix |
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| 12:28.03 | fflush | hehe |
| 12:28.04 | asg | FieldySnuts: waaanngg |
| 12:28.13 | FieldySnuts | mushroomwaannngtek |
| 12:28.19 | asg | touche |
| 12:28.20 | knoppix | briarues: can't handle it ;) how can I get out?????? |
| 12:28.23 | FieldySnuts | :P |
| 12:28.32 | asg | knoppix: :q! |
| 12:28.44 | briareus | get out of vi? ESC :w ...then SHIFT ZZ to exit |
| 12:28.46 | FieldySnuts | get him to #knoppix and out of here damnit |
| 12:28.55 | briareus | or :q to get out without doing anything |
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| 12:29.19 | knoppix | FieldySnuts: sorry, but this is all about a debian question.... |
| 12:29.24 | knoppix | out of vi :) |
| 12:29.26 | FieldySnuts | !mhallsmite knoppix |
| 12:29.27 | dpkg | Fuck knoppix. Fuck it in the asshole with a big rubber dick. |
| 12:29.42 | briareus | sounds ... unpleasant |
| 12:30.02 | briareus | unless you go for that kind of thing, which i gather YOU do |
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| 12:30.22 | briareus | besides, a big rubber dick doenst fit thtought the little cdorm hole |
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| 12:32.51 | idnarhtim | grrr |
| 12:33.01 | idnarhtim | pptp-linux talks about patching pppd, but doesn't give any specifics |
| 12:33.13 | idnarhtim | how am I supposed to get this to work? |
| 12:34.00 | Husk | idnarhtim: get a more recent version. it doesnt need patching. |
| 12:34.39 | idnarhtim | Husk: oh, so the documentation is out of date |
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| 12:34.58 | idnarhtim | Husk: great, that means I can't blame anyone else for it not working ;) |
| 12:35.15 | knoppix | well, I'm going down for a reboot now! please, wish me good luck :p |
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| 12:35.45 | Husk | idnarhtim: cat /usr/sbin/pppd|strings|grep MPPE |
| 12:36.01 | Husk | idnarhtim: if it returns nothing. then you'll need a later version |
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| 12:36.49 | asg | !wb RichiH |
| 12:36.49 | dpkg | O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay! RichiH has returned! |
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| 12:37.16 | idnarhtim | Husk: it returns plenty :) |
| 12:37.34 | Husk | idnarhtim: then you should be right. but you will have to patch your kernel |
| 12:37.44 | idnarhtim | Husk: uh, hrm |
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| 12:39.21 | idnarhtim | Husk: where do I get the kernel patch from? |
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| 12:40.25 | Husk | idnarhtim: http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/howto-debian-build.phtml |
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| 12:40.49 | idnarhtim | Husk: ah :) |
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| 12:42.10 | EmleyMoor | Is there a way to scan for access points and apply essid and key automatically? |
| 12:43.07 | EmleyMoor | (sarge system) |
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| 12:49.10 | knoppix | ello all |
| 12:49.40 | misiOr | i`m testing knoppix 3.4 |
| 12:49.49 | misiOr | what a .... :P |
| 12:50.04 | Condector | misiOr, ?? |
| 12:50.18 | Guerin | !tell misiOr about nondeb knoppix |
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| 12:50.27 | RichiH | hey asg |
| 12:50.34 | RichiH | (yeah, i lag :) |
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| 12:51.36 | asg | RichiH: :) that's some lag |
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| 12:52.21 | RichiH | asg: for only €3.50, you can get my special extra long lag offering (for a short time only, limited to two deals per person) |
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| 12:54.32 | greycat | on second thought, I'd better not wait that long. |
| 12:54.49 | Shadur | greycat: I was about to say. By then 2.7 will be in the works. |
| 12:55.06 | greycat | Shadur: you think the wait would be *finite*?? I'm not so optimistic. |
| 12:55.11 | idnarhtim | slashdot story for? |
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| 12:55.18 | greycat | idnarhtim: for the announcement of kernel 2.6.6 |
| 12:55.20 | idnarhtim | oh |
| 12:55.23 | RichiH | greycat: good links on a /. story, what the hell where you thinking!? |
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| 12:55.57 | ricky_clarkson | Surely, 2.7 is actively developed now, Shadur. |
| 12:56.35 | wilsonsb | #debian-br |
| 12:56.58 | greycat | wilsonsb: it helps if you put /join in front of it |
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| 12:57.32 | jm_ | heh |
| 12:58.34 | spiekey | whats wrong with this sudo line?? sts ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/chroot /home/sts/CoD_chroot/ su - sts |
| 12:58.46 | spiekey | i keep getting permission denied |
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| 12:58.55 | aycaramba | wilsonsb, maybe u should read an howto faq about irc |
| 13:00.05 | wilsonsb | yes,thanks |
| 13:00.47 | Gentoo83 | escuse me but on the Debian 3.0-r2 what is the default kernel ? |
| 13:01.25 | RichiH | 2.4.18 if you choose bf24 as your boot option for the installer |
| 13:01.49 | Gentoo83 | RichiH : no kernel 2.6.series ? |
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| 13:03.19 | greycat | Gentoo83: woody is 2 years old. 2.6 didn't exist then. |
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| 13:03.48 | Gentoo83 | oups greycat it's not good for my NFORCE2 so .... I keep my Gentoo :) |
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| 13:04.55 | dampjam | I need ot make a simple drop box for ftp and I"M using proftpd, the rest of the ftp accounts go to home directories but this one i want to use a different user/pass that isnt' in passwd, is there an easy way to do this |
| 13:04.58 | greycat | sad. |
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| 13:07.47 | RichiH | Gentoo83: you can use sarge instead of stable. it has 2.6 |
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| 13:08.13 | thomas_adam | dampjam: use gftp |
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| 13:09.09 | Gentoo83 | Thanks RichiH |
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| 13:10.24 | greycat | or he could use 2.4.26 which has perfectly good nforce drivers. |
| 13:10.51 | greycat | oh, wait, using 2.4.26 wouldn't be l33t enough. it might actually work easily. |
| 13:11.07 | daxxar | doesn't 2.6.5 'work easily'? |
| 13:11.19 | daxxar | i had no problems with 2.6.5 personally :-) |
| 13:11.24 | greycat | daxxar: you haven't been here very long, I take it... |
| 13:11.30 | Gathond | daxxar: i dont think debian stable has module-init-tools |
| 13:11.35 | cafuego | aZ[a]ZeL: Are you awake? |
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| 13:11.42 | greycat | Gathond: correct... /msg dpkg bunk 2.6 |
| 13:12.10 | daxxar | Gathond: i was talking for sarge, not stable |
| 13:12.24 | daxxar | greycat: hehe, only personal experience of course ;) |
| 13:12.38 | greycat | daxxar: hang around a while and watch the newbies ask why things don't work after their 2.6.x "upgrades" |
| 13:12.44 | Gathond | daxxar: but that was not what Gentoo83 were talking about:) |
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| 13:13.02 | Gentoo83 | :) |
| 13:13.09 | zumbi | hello |
| 13:13.20 | daxxar | Gathond: i wasn't talking to Gentoo83, anyone with Gentoo in their nick is an obvious zealot. |
| 13:13.34 | daxxar | ;-) |
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| 13:13.59 | Gentoo83 | huuuum I'm french and I don't undderstand what you say :) |
| 13:13.59 | KiPPiA | hi |
| 13:14.07 | thomas_adam | Gentoo83: De rien. |
| 13:14.13 | zumbi | do you know any web-page to secure/harden a just installed debian ?¿ |
| 13:14.15 | Gentoo83 | lol thomas_adam :) |
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| 13:14.28 | asg | zumbi: apt-get install harden-doc |
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| 13:14.42 | thomas_adam | zumbi: man concrete |
| 13:14.52 | radical | are there any reasons for not using inetd/xinetd? |
| 13:14.58 | thomas_adam | radical: yes. Lots. |
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| 13:15.12 | KiPPiA | does somebody know if the kernel 2.6.5 supports intel centrino? is the processor pentium m? |
| 13:15.14 | thomas_adam | radical: Standalone will do just fine, thanks. |
| 13:15.24 | zumbi | even with sslwrapper ? |
| 13:15.30 | radical | thomas_adam, yes i know, but why not inetd? |
| 13:15.30 | thomas_adam | KiPPiA: Don't use 2.6, use 2.0.0 much more stable. |
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| 13:16.20 | asg | zumbi: I've run stunnels as standalone daemons before, dunno about sslwrapper though. |
| 13:16.54 | zumbi | well i have sslwrapper running with inetd |
| 13:17.07 | KiPPiA | thomas_adam: i'm using 2.6.5 and it's like a rock, it works fine. |
| 13:17.20 | zumbi | shouldn't i use that ? |
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| 13:17.38 | radical | personally i just disklike inetd because i dont see the why one should use it. but on the other hand, i am looking for real reasons not to use it. |
| 13:17.41 | greycat | !pentium m |
| 13:17.44 | greycat | !centrino |
| 13:17.45 | dpkg | i heard centrino is a marketing term for proprietry crap Intel Pro Wireless 2100. Not supported by Linux kernel. There's a wrapper that lets you use the legacy MS Windows driver. Wrapper is linuxant crap. |
| 13:17.55 | greycat | that's not the full story |
| 13:18.13 | EmleyMoor | There is a fairly decent driver now |
| 13:18.19 | greycat | KiPPiA: the "Pentium M" processor appears to work fine if you configure the kernel as a Pentium IV |
| 13:18.21 | EmleyMoor | I'm actually online using ipw2100 |
| 13:18.32 | jm_ | emple;using open source driver ? |
| 13:18.42 | sussudio | greycat: the pentium M is supposed to be P6 based (P2/P3) |
| 13:18.49 | EmleyMoor | http://ipw2100.sf.net/ for details on how to drive the Centrino wireless network |
| 13:18.52 | cafuego | That's because a Pentium M *is* a pentium IV |
| 13:18.58 | EmleyMoor | There is a Pentium 4M# |
| 13:19.11 | jm_ | ahh yeah I remember reading about that sometime ago |
| 13:19.20 | zumbi | greycat Intel sucks... my next laptop will have a Crusoe |
| 13:19.32 | cafuego | zumbi: Why not an Athlon XP-M? |
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| 13:19.43 | cafuego | zumbi: it's not intel yet faster than intel. |
| 13:19.43 | EmleyMoor | I would have any kind of laptop, provided it can run Linux |
| 13:19.51 | zumbi | cafuego somebody told me that gets hot |
| 13:19.58 | Gathond | zumbi: so does intel:) |
| 13:20.06 | cafuego | zumbi: Mine doesn't get too hot to have on my lap. |
| 13:20.15 | cafuego | zumbi: And that's NOT one of the new lower power ones. |
| 13:20.20 | EmleyMoor | I don't mind the modem being dysfunctional as long as everything else works |
| 13:20.26 | asg | cafuego: that's becaues you are wearing heat resistant pants |
| 13:20.37 | EmleyMoor | (ethernet, wlan, sound and so on) |
| 13:20.40 | zumbi | well, Crusoe is a transmeta processor |
| 13:20.46 | Gathond | and there is still alot more performance than a crusoe i think, not that you cant use a laptop for things where this does not matter |
| 13:20.49 | cafuego | asg: I've been in a bathrobe all day. No pants here. |
| 13:20.52 | zumbi | Transmeta is where Linus works |
| 13:20.56 | mentor | Centrino is worse than that...to be Centrino Certified you have to have an Intel Pentium M processor with accompanyine Intel Chipset and an Intel Pro Wireless 2100 chipset. |
| 13:20.57 | asg | cafuego: hehe |
| 13:20.59 | asg | zumbi: used to work |
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| 13:21.09 | cafuego | zumbi: Yeah, but that doesn't mean a crusoe is fast ;-) |
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| 13:21.19 | zumbi | Crusoe is VLIW |
| 13:21.36 | zumbi | i think it should be a good procesoor |
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| 13:21.38 | KiPPiA | greycat: and will i get the same performance? |
| 13:21.39 | jm_ | Linus doesn't work for Transmeta anymore |
| 13:21.52 | cafuego | zumbi: Oh it is, it's just not fast. |
| 13:21.56 | mentor | EmleyMoor: Using which driver? |
| 13:22.00 | greycat | KiPPiA: *shrug* |
| 13:22.13 | greycat | KiPPiA: benchmark it and report your findings |
| 13:22.24 | cafuego | Hmm, anybody awake here who is on Internode DSL? |
| 13:22.28 | asg | zumbi: OSDL iirc |
| 13:22.31 | jm_ | zumbi: OSDL |
| 13:22.50 | EmleyMoor | ipw2100.sf.net has the details of what I'm using |
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| 13:23.17 | zumbi | well, AMD or Crusoe either one.. or maybe i'll get a PPC |
| 13:23.23 | cafuego | works in the pc, works in the macs. |
| 13:23.28 | jm_ | EmleyMoor: is that 802.11G ? |
| 13:23.31 | EmleyMoor | This laptop is neither bog nor standard, unfortunately |
| 13:23.37 | EmleyMoor | I believe so |
| 13:23.39 | asg | mentor: nothing wrong with wires |
| 13:23.50 | cafuego | mentor: wires are faster |
| 13:24.01 | EmleyMoor | Wires prevent you moving beyond them - but are faster |
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| 13:24.16 | cafuego | wires also don't give you brain tumors |
| 13:24.37 | mentor | cafuego: Perhaps the High Voltage power transmission ones do... |
| 13:24.39 | mentor | humm... |
| 13:24.42 | greycat | cafuego: depends on where you insert them |
| 13:24.59 | mentor | I think the two monitors will give me a hernia...I could just about manage the UPS tho' |
| 13:25.22 | asg | mentor: the trick is to replace your monitors with sexy light flat panel lcds :) |
| 13:25.40 | sussudio | !centrino |
| 13:25.40 | dpkg | Centrino is a laptop brand. There are 3 things a laptop must have for it to be called Centrino. 1. The Montara 852/855 Chipset from Intel 2. The Banias Intel Pentium-M processor (not to be confused with Pentium III-M or Pentium 4-M) 3. Intel PRO/Wireless 2100 network connection for 802.11b wireless networking (future versions to also have 802.11a). The Intel Pro Wireless 2100 is not supported by the Linux Kernel. |
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| 13:26.35 | mentor | sussudio: Thanks |
| 13:26.57 | sussudio | that's what i put there in the first place a couple of months ago, i don't know who changed it. |
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| 13:27.10 | zumbi | !crusoe |
| 13:27.10 | dpkg | Crusoe will be cool hardware and software for mobile applications. On January 19th, 2000, Transmeta is announced and demonstrated what Crusoe processors can do. or THE SECRET WEAPON or World Domination Inside, but http://www.transmeta.com/, but crusoe has a very high noise:result ratio, but the character of one very popular story i cant remember right now. |
| 13:27.11 | faber | how can i do a dist upgrade from stable to testing ? |
| 13:27.22 | sussudio | !tell faber about stable->testing |
| 13:27.26 | cafuego | !athlon |
| 13:27.26 | dpkg | AMD's Athlon is beter then anything Intel has any day of the week. |
| 13:27.31 | cafuego | <heh> |
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| 13:27.44 | EmleyMoor | I got stung trying, faber - but was happy when I got testing running |
| 13:27.44 | zumbi | faber, apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 13:28.00 | zumbi | faber but need to change your sources.list |
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| 13:28.30 | EmleyMoor | testing works just fine on this laptop - stable needed a lot of unofficial stuff |
| 13:28.30 | zumbi | !tell zumbi about stable->unstable |
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| 13:29.44 | EmleyMoor | How do I configure my system to give me dates in UK format in ls? |
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| 13:30.39 | cafuego | set your LOCALE to en_GB ? |
| 13:30.45 | ricky_clarkson | EmleyMoor: Mon May 10 14:30:50 BST 2004 - is that in UK format? |
| 13:30.52 | greycat | ricky_clarkson: that's not ls(1) |
| 13:30.54 | EmleyMoor | cafuego: That's already done |
| 13:31.02 | cafuego | Mine says 2004-05-06 10:17 |
| 13:31.03 | ricky_clarkson | greycat: Er, oops :) |
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| 13:31.18 | EmleyMoor | 2004-05-10 sure ain't |
| 13:31.23 | asg | EmleyMoor: do you have a LC_TIME locale set to en_GB? |
| 13:31.27 | ricky_clarkson | EmleyMoor: is May 4 UK format? |
| 13:31.32 | cafuego | EmleyMoor: Well I don't have a LOCALE set |
| 13:31.37 | EmleyMoor | ricky_clarkson: Maybe |
| 13:31.48 | greycat | EmleyMoor: are you on woody, sarge or sid? |
| 13:32.03 | ricky_clarkson | EmleyMoor: I don't have LOCALE set. |
| 13:32.22 | ricky_clarkson | Maybe it's the stuff in tzconfig that does it. |
| 13:33.09 | cafuego | ls -l --time-style=locale |
| 13:33.13 | cafuego | as per 'ma ls' |
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| 13:33.19 | EmleyMoor | ricky_clarkson: Seems not to be |
| 13:33.32 | cafuego | So just alias ls='ls --time-style=locale' |
| 13:33.37 | cafuego | and set yer locale |
| 13:33.43 | mentor | English format is where the appropriate measurements are listed in descending or ascending order, not any which way. |
| 13:33.44 | archpollux | hey all |
| 13:34.02 | EmleyMoor | cafuego: Great idea - thanks |
| 13:34.32 | cafuego | EmleyMoor: You can also specify the actual format |
| 13:34.41 | EmleyMoor | mentor: Well, the difference here is between what I get on my desktop and what I get on my laptop |
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| 13:35.12 | mentor | EmleyMoor: Sorry, that was just a dig at the American format |
| 13:35.12 | cafuego | For a really useful one, ls -l --time-style=+"%Y" |
| 13:35.12 | Coke | Hello. I use sarge and have Apache2 preforked and modpython (for python 2.3) installed. When I start Apache2 all the preforked children segfault and only the two root processes are left with one of them being defunct. What do I need to fix? |
| 13:35.27 | cafuego | full-iso is cute |
| 13:35.32 | archpollux | Coke: get rid of mod_python |
| 13:35.35 | jm_ | that must be a new option in sarge |
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| 13:36.07 | Coke | archpollux: actualy, it's only when restarting this happens. |
| 13:36.10 | greycat | then again, people use linux 2.6, so what should I expect... |
| 13:36.12 | archpollux | greycat: why not? |
| 13:36.17 | greycat | archpollux: see above. |
| 13:36.21 | Coke | greycat: because the newest mod_python requires APR and Apache2. |
| 13:36.23 | asg | greycat: newer mod_python requires it iirc. |
| 13:36.36 | archpollux | greycat: beyond the apache2 statement? |
| 13:36.49 | sussudio | greycat: 2 > 1 |
| 13:36.53 | greycat | archpollux: the one that begins "Coke> Hello. I use sarge and have Apache2 ..." |
| 13:36.54 | cafuego | greycat: I installed it yesterday, for one it's mod_ssl uses gnutls and not openssl; better encryption! |
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| 13:37.17 | archpollux | Coke: mod_python is buggy, i think |
| 13:37.23 | cafuego | greycat: Crufty old PPC box running a 2.6 kernel and apache2 for ipv6 :-) |
| 13:37.42 | greycat | <- Server: Apache/1.3.29 (Unix) PHP/4.3.5RC3 mod_ssl/2.8.16 OpenSSL/0.9.7d |
| 13:37.47 | archpollux | greycat: ummm kay |
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| 13:38.27 | cafuego | Apache/2.0.49 (Debian GNU/Linux) PHP/4.3.4 mod_ssl/2.0.49 OpenSSL/0.9.7d |
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| 13:38.51 | Coke | archpollux: I guess. Damn it. It isn't easy to hack Python for web stuff these days. On one side you have CGI-like hacks and on the other you have massive frameworks and nothing in between. |
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| 13:39.08 | cafuego | of course, the production server only says "Server: Apache/1.3.26" |
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| 13:40.18 | asg | cafuego: of course |
| 13:40.47 | cafuego | asg: Well, it's REALLY IIS/5.1 |
| 13:40.47 | asg | Coke: better to use Zope if your particularly Pythonic |
| 13:40.53 | sublime | i am trying to convert a machine from dhcp ip to a static ip, i edited the /etc/network/interfaces file and now it does not get an ip at all. Is there other files i am missing? |
| 13:41.00 | asg | <-- Apache/2.0.49 (Debian GNU/Linux) mod_python/3.1.3 Python/2.3.3 mod_ssl/2.0.49 OpenSSL/0.9.6c |
| 13:41.05 | Coke | asg: I don't like the massive frameworks and I like Zope even less. |
| 13:41.05 | asg | cafuego: rock |
| 13:41.19 | cafuego | asg: Broken old openssl? |
| 13:41.23 | asg | Coke: oh, I agree there; I just have to support some of the people here |
| 13:41.31 | asg | cafuego: backport |
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| 13:41.36 | knoppix_ | hello! I'm trying to install KDE 3.0 from RPMs (meant for RH7) using alien. qt and kdelibs are not problem but kdebase -> "failed in buffer-read(fd):md5hash: Is a directory." Could I better forget this, or does anybody have some hints? I'm not on that box now, but I'll try later... |
| 13:41.57 | Coke | asg: so how did you solve it? Even twisted is to big for me. |
| 13:41.59 | jm_ | knoppix_: are yu in the right channel for knoppix questions ? |
| 13:42.00 | asg | cafuego: the apache2 came from backports.org, the mod python and python2.3 I backported myself |
| 13:42.00 | SEP | sublime: typo in /etc/network/interfaces. read man interfaces for exact wording |
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| 13:42.08 | cafuego | it'll make life a bit easier on the damn vhost front when I do finally move though |
| 13:42.13 | asg | Coke: solve what? |
| 13:42.16 | knoppix_ | jm_: don't think so... using debian :p |
| 13:42.29 | jm_ | knoppix_: ok, why are you using rpm-s ? |
| 13:42.31 | cafuego | 1893 line httpd.conf |
| 13:42.57 | jm_ | knoppix_: go to #debian-kde, they have a newer release for woody |
| 13:43.05 | cafuego | knoppix_: maybe just a single "switch to windows" hint. |
| 13:43.27 | sublime | SEP, ah i think i see it, thank you very much |
| 13:43.39 | knoppix_ | jm_: I'd like to upgrade KDE, and I've got only this RPMs, of couse I can download some, but that takes time............................ |
| 13:43.48 | knoppix_ | cafuego: explain please? |
| 13:44.08 | jm_ | knoppix_: well goo dluck with it, no-one here will be able to help you with that |
| 13:44.11 | cafuego | knoppix_: What you're attempting to do is BAD with a capital BAD |
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| 13:44.56 | sphex2 | Hello. It's ME. AGAIN! OK. What was that man page about the /etc/rc?.d vs /etc/init.d thingies? |
| 13:45.01 | cafuego | knoppix_: Debian was designed for Debian packages. You can install the odd small converted RPM, but soemthing like KDE? Forget it. |
| 13:45.08 | asg | sphex2: update-rc.d |
| 13:45.11 | tristan__ | hi there, my console currently displays 80x24 cars, how do i change it? |
| 13:45.15 | The_Vulture | sphex2: man update-rc.d |
| 13:45.25 | knoppix_ | jm_, cafuego: OK, that's clear.. I'll stop trying it... I'm a big alien fan, so I thought, let's give it a try..... |
| 13:45.36 | sphex2 | The_Vulture, ah, thx |
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| 13:45.40 | jm_ | knoppix_: it's not so much a problem with alien |
| 13:45.47 | asg | The_Vulture: compile fbcon kernel support and use read /kernel/source/Documentation/vesa.txt |
| 13:45.51 | asg | bah |
| 13:45.53 | cafuego | knoppix_: The howto in the wiki in the topic on #debian-kde is straightforward and easy. |
| 13:45.58 | asg | tristan__: compile fbcon kernel support and use read /kernel/source/Documentation/vesa.txt |
| 13:46.10 | jm_ | tristan__: or use vga=ask kernel option or stm |
| 13:46.14 | asg | The_Vulture: :) |
| 13:46.22 | mercurus | greetings all ... I'm struggling to get my new USB storage device to mount in debian |
| 13:46.26 | tristan__ | thx asg jm_ |
| 13:46.26 | cafuego | tristan__: add 'vga=ask' in your lilo.conf, run 'lilo' reboot. Pick a video mode. |
| 13:46.29 | knoppix_ | cafuego: well, I can install a debian package on a debian system, don't be afraid.... |
| 13:46.31 | sphex2 | The_Vulture, ok, it's not my computer so I don't want to break it. Is any risk of breaking something with update-rc.d? All I did was to add a file in /etc/init.d and I want it to work. |
| 13:46.41 | mercurus | specifically, I can't find any reference, anywhere, to which device it is on ... |
| 13:46.44 | cafuego | knoppix_: Well, you don't HAVE a debian system... ;-) |
| 13:46.46 | archpollux | mercurus: u need scsi disk support, usb and usb-storage support in the kernel |
| 13:46.55 | Coke | asg: solve python hacking for web stuff. |
| 13:46.58 | _andy | hello, i'm looking for a gpled ftp client which supports fxp & queueing (the linux counterpart of flashfxp?), any directions would be appriciated. I have tried some i found using apt (gftp etc). |
| 13:47.02 | mercurus | there's nothing in the kernel messages when the modules load to indicate which device it is |
| 13:47.02 | knoppix_ | cafuego: ??? I have! |
| 13:47.05 | asg | mercurus: after loading those, check in /var/log/dmesg |
| 13:47.10 | mercurus | archpollux: compiled as modules |
| 13:47.22 | cafuego | knoppix_: No, you have knoppix. |
| 13:47.29 | Coke | asg: the #python people says "use twisted! use twisted! anything else is crap, twisted is best", but I feel it is overkill for my project. |
| 13:47.29 | mercurus | asg: I have, I even enabled debugging support and there's no indicate of a device |
| 13:47.34 | jm_ | _andy: lftp |
| 13:47.48 | _andy | also apt-gettable? |
| 13:47.50 | _andy | and thanks |
| 13:47.52 | archpollux | mercurus: load them, then see what new sd device appears when u plugin the usb device |
| 13:47.59 | jm_ | yes |
| 13:48.03 | asg | Coke: oh, I don't code in it, it's for our developers who really like it for some reason. They use a homegrown xml/xslt waste of time. |
| 13:48.15 | cafuego | knoppix_: there is a subtle difference between "debian" and "debian-based". |
| 13:48.21 | knoppix_ | cafuego: :p yeh your right but I've got 3 other boxes here, and I'm sure they are running debian! On this box too, but it doesn't boot... |
| 13:48.24 | _andy | no gui available for it? |
| 13:48.24 | Jon | two machines with exim on are now uttering warnings about /var/spool/exim/db/[retry,wait-remote_smtp] existing, originating from a cron job. I can't see anything in the bts. Anyone experiencing this? |
| 13:48.44 | cafuego | gui? fpt ftp? |
| 13:48.55 | asg | Jon: running woody? |
| 13:49.01 | Jon | asg: no, sid on both machines |
| 13:49.02 | cafuego | _andy: it tab-completes, no gui needed. |
| 13:49.14 | _andy | ah tab-completion is nice :) |
| 13:49.18 | _andy | i'll go try it |
| 13:49.19 | _andy | thanks |
| 13:49.22 | cafuego | You surely don't want to boot X just to trasnfer a file. |
| 13:49.32 | archpollux | cafuego: hehe |
| 13:49.37 | _andy | it's used on a workstation |
| 13:49.45 | _andy | so X is running anyways |
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| 13:49.55 | cafuego | _andy: Workstation doesn't imply X. |
| 13:49.58 | jm_ | it's funny how these people want to use FXP and do it with a GUI client - I mean, if you want to save resources also save them by using tty FTP client |
| 13:50.02 | asg | Jon: hmmm, not seeing anything here. You might want to file a bug, though, if this just started happening. |
| 13:50.02 | _andy | and gui's usually a bit more userfriendly |
| 13:50.22 | _andy | cafuego: true |
| 13:50.38 | Jon | asg: ok, thankyou. its a call of exim_tidydb, just going to check over the man pages to see what it actually does ;) Thanks for your help |
| 13:50.53 | soros | anybody know a DVD unit that'll play avi's, divx's, vcd's, xvid, etc etc .... something that i can sit below my television ? |
| 13:50.53 | asg | Jon: ah okay. You're welcome. |
| 13:51.08 | jm_ | soros: there are quite a few out there |
| 13:51.10 | greycat | soros: a linux box running mplayer with a tv-out card? |
| 13:51.11 | cafuego | soros: Linux with a tv out card |
| 13:51.14 | mercurus | asg: I did ls /dev |grep sd > /tmp/us and ls /dev |grep sd > /tmp/us1 (one before na done after the insertion of the device) |
| 13:51.21 | cafuego | Not with mplayer though. |
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| 13:51.22 | archpollux | soros i think philips is developing one, but something already out there, not sure |
| 13:51.34 | archpollux | cafuego that's a much better idea :) |
| 13:51.34 | soros | ya, i know, but i'm looking for something that i can just go down to the store today and buy |
| 13:51.35 | mercurus | after visual inspection, and after running diff against the two output files ... they're identical |
| 13:51.39 | mercurus | no new device |
| 13:51.43 | knoppix_ | soros: xine? |
| 13:51.49 | asg | mercurus: do you have the usb host module loaded? |
| 13:51.57 | jm_ | my cousin got one from Germany a while ago, it was quite cheap |
| 13:51.59 | archpollux | mercurus u using devfs? |
| 13:52.16 | archpollux | jm_: oh, cool, what brand? |
| 13:52.26 | mercurus | archpollux: yes |
| 13:52.27 | cafuego | sleepytime |
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| 13:52.32 | soros | just downloaded 3 seasons worth of Trailer park Boys, would rather watch em on my television :| |
| 13:52.33 | asg | cafuego: night |
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| 13:52.47 | mercurus | asg: I have: uhci, scsi_mod, usb-storage loaded |
| 13:52.49 | anton | is it possible somehow to use my old isa ide-controller on my new 160gb drive? or should i buy a new pci ide-controller card? |
| 13:52.52 | jm_ | archpollux: I forgot, some no-name one, ugly design and all that :) but it does its job, I've noticed yamada here on-sale, for about 120E |
| 13:53.21 | asg | mercurus: maybe try one of the other host modules, though that one should have indicated something in /var/log/dmesg or /var/log/syslog. |
| 13:53.44 | anton | the 160 drive is not supported by my bios, i've tried to flash it. but without success.. :/ |
| 13:54.06 | soros | one other question, i have an mp3 here.. if i convert it to .wav , can i just cdrecord to burn that onto cdr or do i need to make an iso of it ? |
| 13:54.19 | archpollux | jm_ hehe, k :) |
| 13:54.20 | mercurus | asg and archpollux: it has suddenly sprung into life on /dev/sda1 |
| 13:54.21 | greycat | soros: the former will work. |
| 13:54.26 | soros | thanks |
| 13:54.27 | asg | soros: read the CD-Writing howto at tldp.org |
| 13:54.29 | jm_ | anton: no, there's a limit at arround 130G for older ones, even some PCI don't work |
| 13:54.32 | mercurus | although, it has NOT worked on that device before ... |
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| 13:54.35 | greycat | soros: an ISO image of a .wav file would NOT be what you want, most likely |
| 13:54.36 | soros | asg: No thanks |
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| 13:54.44 | asg | mercurus: chaos, cosmic rays? |
| 13:55.05 | asg | soros: suit yourself then |
| 13:55.08 | mercurus | asg: solar flare ? :P |
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| 13:55.25 | asg | mercurus: good karma |
| 13:55.32 | anton | jm_: oki. do you now how to reach the ide from linux.. is it /dev/hdd or something? |
| 13:55.35 | sussudio | there's no significant solar activity at the moment. |
| 13:55.41 | jm_ | anton: /dev/hd* |
| 13:55.42 | mercurus | asg: the only thing I can think of that may be different, is that I have not loaded my cd drive at all ... which uses scsi emulation ... |
| 13:55.51 | anton | jm_: righto. thank you |
| 13:55.56 | asg | sussudio: get simonrvn to do a star chart for us |
| 13:55.58 | ricky_clarkson | How long do bash.org quotes take to be moderated, usually? |
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| 13:56.13 | sussudio | asg: www.spaceweather.com |
| 13:56.14 | jm_ | anton: an add-on controller might show up as /dev/hde or so, kernel will report it |
| 13:56.15 | asg | mercurus: hmmm, it would be worth investigating. |
| 13:56.31 | asg | sussudio: bah, I'd rather have simon's astrological readings :) |
| 13:56.55 | anton | jm_: aight. and if not supported or mod:ed by kernel, it won't? |
| 13:57.20 | jm_ | anton: yup (note that you also need kernel > 2.4.19 for disks of 160G size) |
| 13:57.22 | greycat | ricky_clarkson: 42 |
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| 13:57.29 | abrotman | 138GB |
| 13:57.45 | mercurus | asg: odd ... just modprobed ide-scsi into life, and remounted the usb drive no worries |
| 13:57.53 | mercurus | its actually a USB watch :P |
| 13:58.11 | asg | mercurus: hehe, cool. |
| 13:58.55 | sussudio | i used to have a data watch for my c64 :-| |
| 13:59.09 | mercurus | ok, I'll try a reboot or two ... and see if its functional on boot, or if there is excess hackery required each time to access the device |
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| 14:00.18 | ricky_clarkson | greycat: Damn, there have only elapsed 13 so far. |
| 14:00.21 | moshii | does anyone know if it's possible to display Japanese Kanji with furigana? |
| 14:00.34 | sussudio | cload is not a word |
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| 14:00.49 | asg | sussudio: never had a cassette player for your c64 then |
| 14:00.54 | ricky_clarkson | !spell cload |
| 14:00.54 | dpkg | possible spellings for cload: load clad clod cloud cloak |
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| 14:01.07 | sussudio | asg: did too |
| 14:01.31 | jm_ | he probably meant C= load keycombo ;) |
| 14:01.52 | mercurus | asg: you'll be pleased to know, on reboot I could plug it in, and it loaded appropriat emodules and mounted successfully |
| 14:01.58 | sussudio | tape took too long, i was mainly using the 1541 and 1581 |
| 14:02.05 | asg | mercurus: nifty |
| 14:02.26 | mercurus | i'm doing a reboot with the usb drive already inserted |
| 14:02.29 | asg | jm_: now I think about it, maybe CLOAD was an Atari 400/800 thing |
| 14:02.29 | sussudio | asg: http://home.wanadoo.nl/sussudio/tape.jpg :-| |
| 14:02.37 | asg | sussudio: hah |
| 14:02.39 | mercurus | then, if that wokrs ... I'll throw in the USB printer and see how it copes :x |
| 14:03.00 | jm_ | my C64 tape looked way different |
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| 14:03.17 | sussudio | jm_: yes, this is the early model that actually worked most of the time |
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| 14:03.35 | jm_ | sussudio: I never had much problems with mine |
| 14:03.54 | sussudio | i think i got this one with my vic20, actually. it worked on both. |
| 14:04.06 | jm_ | aha that explains it |
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| 14:04.24 | anton | jm_: uhm. the drive is not reported as a /dev/hd* by kernel. just as ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14. do you know how to reach it? |
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| 14:04.39 | jm_ | anton: well ls /proc/ide |
| 14:05.00 | mac37do | Hi, when I use kdm, kde does not start. Only when I use xdm, kde starts. |
| 14:06.07 | jm_ | anton: and yes, it is reported by kernel : hda: WDC WD204BB-71CAA1, ATA DISK drive |
| 14:06.07 | asg | mac37do: #debian-kde might be more helpful |
| 14:06.07 | jm_ | sussudio: so I guess it was as hot as C64's then |
| 14:06.07 | mac37do | ok, thx :-) |
| 14:06.07 | sussudio | jm_: much hotter |
| 14:06.07 | ricky_clarkson | mac37do: In gdm you can select the session you want - Gnome/KDE/failsafe etc. Maybe kdm does the same. |
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| 14:06.44 | mac37do | ricky_clarkson: yes I selected kde |
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| 14:07.25 | ricky_clarkson | mac37do: No errors reported? |
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| 14:07.45 | spiekey | Use 4Kb for kernel stacks instead of 8Kb --> whats the diffent between them? what shall i use? |
| 14:07.50 | grumpy_ | I'm getting permission denied mounting an nfs share from a sco box on my linux box it's just saying "reason given by server: permission denied" can anyone help me troubleshoot this? it worked before for a long time I just rebooted forcefully and now it won't work |
| 14:08.00 | mac37do | no, the scren turns black, flickers a bit and then again back to xdm |
| 14:08.01 | sway_ | when i try n ls some directories as root i get suexec.disabled ... help? |
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| 14:08.18 | ricky_clarkson | grumpy_: strace |
| 14:08.18 | jm_ | grumpy_: mountint it as root ? |
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| 14:08.25 | greycat | grumpy_: check logs on the NFS server. Check the hostname that the NFS server THINKS the NFS client has. |
| 14:08.37 | grumpy_ | yes mounting as root |
| 14:08.50 | greycat | grumpy_: since this is a legacy Unix box, I'd suggest "telnet thescobox", and then use "who" or "who -a" or "who -h" to see where the SCO box THINKS you came from. |
| 14:08.51 | jm_ | export it with no_root_squash option |
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| 14:09.09 | anton | jm_: mine isn't reported as a hd* |
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| 14:09.34 | greycat | sway_: are you in webmin? |
| 14:09.44 | sway_ | no |
| 14:09.49 | jm_ | anton: well does BIOS detect it at all ? is it on ISA controller now ? |
| 14:10.08 | greycat | sway_: tell us exactly what you are doing and exactly what the error says |
| 14:10.17 | grumpy_ | what is no_root_squash? |
| 14:10.31 | greycat | grumpy_: a Linux nfs server option. Not relevant to a SCO NFS server. |
| 14:10.31 | sway_ | kyle:/home/tania# ls /usr/lib/apache/ |
| 14:10.32 | sway_ | 1.3 suexec.disabled |
| 14:10.44 | greycat | sway_: that's the name of a file. |
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| 14:10.55 | sway_ | omg |
| 14:10.56 | grumpy_ | ok, yeah I'm trying to mount the sco on the linux not the other way around |
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| 14:11.26 | anton | jm_: i'm trying to see if the isa ide-controller works. i'm laborating with an old drive.. and it seems that kernel havn't found it |
| 14:11.41 | jm_ | anton: it always reports them - ls /proc/ide and see |
| 14:11.46 | sway_ | thanks greycat |
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| 14:13.16 | anton | jm_: in /proc/ide it's just hda & hdb, the drives that i've installed since before |
| 14:13.44 | zergouille | what is the command to have a lilo shell from lilo boot menu ? |
| 14:13.48 | jm_ | anton: like I said, check if BIOS detects it first, make sure it works hardware wise etc. |
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| 14:15.51 | anton | jm_: bios doesnt detect the drive. but before i booted linux (and after bios) the card put some information on the screen.. so i think it should work. should you be able to find the drive in bios? |
| 14:15.58 | ita | hi all -- wow how many are we here ? |
| 14:16.02 | jm_ | anton: what card ? |
| 14:16.24 | greycat | ita: about 160 less than #gentoo has |
| 14:16.44 | anton | jm_: an old Promise card (isa) |
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| 14:17.15 | jm_ | anton: ahh it probably installs its own BIOS, and I doubt that one would detect your 160G drive - check if Linux detected it at all |
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| 14:17.35 | anton | jm_: a new pci card isn't that expensive.. i'll think i buy one of those tomorrow so i can use my 160gb.. |
| 14:17.47 | grumpy_ | are there logs of nfs stuff on SCO does anyone know? |
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| 14:18.32 | jm_ | anton: hmm my motherboard is new enough so it supports it out of the box, that's the best option |
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| 14:19.38 | Condector | how I'm make a block in SQUID for MAC ADDRESS ?? |
| 14:19.38 | anton | jm_: maybe put the old card in the collection of relic computerstuff! ;) |
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| 14:19.51 | greycat | Condector: squid doesn't care about MAC addresses; it uses TCP/IP |
| 14:20.25 | jm_ | anton: well it's what progress (read: bloatness) does, they worked fine in their era |
| 14:20.37 | ttl- | can anybody give me the ip for debian.org because it does not resolve here |
| 14:20.50 | greycat | debian.org has address 192.25.206.10 |
| 14:20.53 | anton | jm_: the mb on the linuxbox as i run as server doesn't support big drives as default.. it's an old noname mb. difficult to flash.. |
| 14:20.54 | ttl- | thnx |
| 14:20.58 | anton | jm_: =) |
| 14:21.05 | ttl- | :) |
| 14:21.08 | ita | has anyone ever had trouble with package locales ? it won't install properly with dpkg - says something about ro_RO.ISO-8859-2...LC_ADDRESS: valeur « country_ab3 » |
| 14:21.21 | Condector | greycat, noooo... |
| 14:21.21 | greycat | ita: did you check the BTS? |
| 14:21.24 | Condector | hehee |
| 14:21.26 | jm_ | anton: yeah, like mine in my firewall, P133 |
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| 14:21.37 | greycat | Condector: MAC-level blocking should be done in the firewall |
| 14:21.49 | greycat | Condector: squid is an application-level proxy |
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| 14:22.26 | anton | jm_: this one is a P200. a bit fresher than yours! notice that it is MMX! ;) |
| 14:22.33 | Condector | greycat, but, i need allow one people to access internet... |
| 14:22.58 | Condector | but my own IP INTERNAL is garanted for DHCP.. |
| 14:22.58 | jm_ | anton: yeah, that's nice enough to run dns cache and something like privoxy on it as well |
| 14:23.09 | golgotha | does anyone know the home page for ifupdown ? |
| 14:23.16 | asg | Condector: if the person uses dhcp, have dhcp assign a static address to the person's MAC and then setup your ACL's based on that ip. |
| 14:23.27 | greycat | Condector: tell your DHCP server to assign the same IP address to that client every time. Put the client's MAC address in the dhcp.conf file. |
| 14:23.32 | jm_ | Condector: use firewall to block them, or give them static IP addresses with DHCP |
| 14:23.45 | anton | jm_: i will mainly use it as a fileserver.. |
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| 14:23.54 | _andy | just block everyone & allow the static ip |
| 14:23.55 | mkl_ | Hi! Trying to setup fwanalog to parse /var/log/messages for iptables entries. That should be the default - stating from /etc/fwanalog/fwanalog.opts, but fwanalog complains about " No input files in the '' directory named and under days old." So it seems it doesn't parse the options correct (days seems also wrong). Any suggestions? |
| 14:24.12 | honschu | howto add a user to a group ? |
| 14:24.17 | asg | honschu: man adduser |
| 14:24.18 | greycat | honschu: adduser |
| 14:24.20 | anton | jm_: let's see if there is some noodles in the kitchen.. thanks for the chat! see ya |
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| 14:24.31 | jm_ | anton: no worries, later |
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| 14:25.54 | mercurus | asg and archpollux: thanks for your help :) much appreciated ! |
| 14:25.58 | asg | mercurus: you're welcome |
| 14:25.59 | Condector | thanks for all |
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| 14:27.28 | Condector | greycat, jm_, do not exist any other solution to ALLOW ond MAC for squid ?? |
| 14:27.54 | greycat | Condector: no, because there are superior methods available that I've already given you |
| 14:27.56 | jm_ | Condector: greycat has explained to you why anythin else can't work |
| 14:28.12 | Condector | jm_ i no.. |
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| 14:28.16 | Aranda | hi |
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| 14:28.25 | Condector | thanks, and sorry ... |
| 14:29.11 | Aranda | when i change anychoose with dpks reconfigure xserver.xfree86, why i cannot use startx ? it give me error (fatal IO error 104 on X server...) |
| 14:29.54 | jm_ | Aranda: read its log |
| 14:30.06 | a1fa | does newest version of apt get 3 files at the same time |
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| 14:30.20 | greycat | a1fa: only if you have 3 different sources to pull from |
| 14:30.29 | Aranda | jm_ ? |
| 14:30.33 | jm_ | Aranda: ! |
| 14:30.39 | a1fa | greycat: same file or 3 different files? |
| 14:30.44 | asg | Aranda: /var/log/XF*.log <--- read those |
| 14:30.48 | Aranda | k |
| 14:30.49 | greycat | a1fa: different files. |
| 14:30.50 | Aranda | thx u |
| 14:30.57 | a1fa | cool |
| 14:30.59 | a1fa | thanks |
| 14:31.23 | a1fa | that would be a good feature, download 3 packages at the same time from same source |
| 14:31.32 | greycat | a1fa: no it wouldn't. |
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| 14:31.44 | a1fa | why not? |
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| 14:32.07 | greycat | download the same file in segments from 3 *different* sources... in other words, swarming ... *that* would be a decent feature (albeit not worth the effort) |
| 14:32.27 | greycat | opening 3 simultaneous connections to the same server is just fucktarded. |
| 14:32.46 | a1fa | k |
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| 14:34.02 | guyzmo | hi, can anyone explain me why the package vim-perl does depend on glib and gtk ? |
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| 14:34.41 | asg | guyzmo: vim-perl is the whizzbang lots of features distribution of vim |
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| 14:35.10 | jm_ | weird, vim-perl only has 4 files ? |
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| 14:35.49 | guyzmo | asg - ok, but all I want with that is to get :perl working |
| 14:35.52 | guyzmo | nothing more |
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| 14:36.07 | asg | guyzmo: then grab the src deb and recompile it w/o gtk2 support |
| 14:36.10 | guyzmo | why should I install X11 on a server where I want it ? |
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| 14:36.25 | guyzmo | asg - that's what I'm going to do |
| 14:36.29 | asg | guyzmo: :) |
| 14:36.30 | guyzmo | but I'm thinking that |
| 14:36.51 | guyzmo | there may be reasons why vim-perl is dependent on glib/gtk... |
| 14:36.53 | mick_laptop | guyzmo: you don't need x11 on a server (even if you want to run x11 applications) |
| 14:37.08 | asg | guyzmo: file a wishlist bug if you think there should be a non-gui vim-perl |
| 14:37.22 | guyzmo | asg - ahah :) |
| 14:37.25 | asg | guyzmo: after checking the archives to see if someone hasn't already filed one. |
| 14:37.26 | mick_laptop | guyzmo: glib for the C stuff and gtk for the gvim(like) stuff |
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| 14:37.56 | guyzmo | ok |
| 14:38.04 | mick_laptop | guyzmo: first find out why exactly its in there |
| 14:38.04 | guyzmo | so let's recompile from source |
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| 14:38.10 | mick_laptop | then complain ;) |
| 14:38.18 | guyzmo | mick_laptop - that's why I came here in first place |
| 14:38.23 | mick_laptop | ;) |
| 14:38.25 | guyzmo | to know if there's any reason |
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| 14:38.36 | guyzmo | why there is this dependance |
| 14:38.39 | jm_ | guyzmo: is this on woody or sarge ? |
| 14:38.41 | mick_laptop | may have to ask the maintainer for that one |
| 14:38.51 | asg | guyzmo: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=45948&archive=yes |
| 14:38.51 | guyzmo | jm_ - woody |
| 14:38.53 | ttl- | debian.org seems to be down... |
| 14:39.16 | ttl- | or my ISP is acting funny |
| 14:39.31 | mick_laptop | ttl-: its up |
| 14:39.34 | jm_ | guyzmo: hmm it's quite obvious for sarge, but I don't get it why woody version depends on it |
| 14:39.45 | ttl- | ttl-: k thnx |
| 14:39.49 | ttl- | oops |
| 14:39.58 | mick_laptop | haha |
| 14:40.05 | mick_laptop | np |
| 14:40.09 | ttl- | mick_laptop: thanks |
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| 14:40.13 | ttl- | :) |
| 14:40.23 | jm_ | guyzmo: ahh it provides new vim binary, that's why |
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| 14:40.44 | je4d | hey, does anybody know the password for root3~4~][][ |
| 14:40.49 | guyzmo | ok recompilation |
| 14:41.06 | asg | guyzmo: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=56104&archive=yes <--- wichert's explanation. |
| 14:41.16 | asg | je4d: /msg dpkg i forgot root's password |
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| 14:42.35 | zyberdoc | wer weiss warum kdm nach dem start gleich wieder stopt seit dem ich den kern 2.6 drauf hab |
| 14:42.44 | asg | !german |
| 14:42.44 | dpkg | i guess german is #debian.de - deutschsprachige Debian-Hilfe gibt es in #debian.de |
| 14:42.49 | asg | zyberdoc: ^^ |
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| 14:43.42 | asg | greycat: I thought lazarus didn't have email (he filed that bug in 2000) ? |
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| 14:44.17 | zyberdoc | mein kdm startet nicht seit kern 2.6 weiss jemand warum? |
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| 14:44.29 | jm_ | !+german |
| 14:44.30 | dpkg | rumour has it, german is #debian.de - deutschsprachige Debian-Hilfe gibt es in #debian.de |
| 14:44.33 | jm_ | zyberdoc ^^^^^ |
| 14:44.34 | asg | zyberdoc: this is an English only channel |
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| 14:44.45 | guyzmo | zyberdoc - es ist nur ein english channel |
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| 14:45.27 | dasenjo | Hi, I have a big problem .. I dist-upgraded and my galeon doesnt work ... |
| 14:45.33 | asg | dasenjo: check the bts |
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| 14:45.53 | dasenjo | asg: the bts ? |
| 14:45.57 | asg | dasenjo: /topic |
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| 14:47.57 | dasenjo | asg: I dont have browser. I cant go to http://www... |
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| 14:48.19 | asg | dasenjo: apt-get install links or lynx |
| 14:48.41 | Warer | I am setting up a ethernet bridge, and i want to get some statistics from the bridge, how much bandwidth each user are using, maby display this in a web page, anyone know of a good program for this? |
| 14:49.08 | leOn | hmmm |
| 14:49.09 | asg | Warer: snmpd |
| 14:49.23 | leOn | anyone having problems with perl in SID ? |
| 14:49.37 | asg | leOn: the bts whould know |
| 14:49.45 | Warer | asg: thanks i will look into it |
| 14:49.45 | leOn | keep getting "dynamic loading not available in this perl" |
| 14:50.00 | jm_ | run perl -V, see if it's really disabled |
| 14:50.38 | deejoe | Warer: mrtg? |
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| 14:51.03 | jcapote | hey guys |
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| 14:52.39 | Warer | deejoe: mrtg, what is that, snmpd didn't display enough for me |
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| 14:53.09 | leOn | jm_: Compile-time options: MULTIPLICITY USE_ITHREADS USE_LARGE_FILES PERL_IMPLICIT_CONTEXT |
| 14:53.17 | jm_ | leOn: don't paste it here, read it |
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| 14:53.21 | jcapote | does debian have kernel 2.6 |
| 14:53.35 | dasenjo | How can I fix this? dpkg-divert: rename involves overwriting `/usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xft/Xft.h' with |
| 14:53.35 | dasenjo | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:53.35 | dasenjo | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libxft-dev_2.1.2-6_i386.deb (--unpack): |
| 14:53.36 | dpkg | You are moron #64, dasenjo |
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| 14:53.54 | dasenjo | dpkg: what ? |
| 14:53.55 | dpkg | This! |
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| 14:54.39 | jcapote | id like to install debian, but i want to know what default kernel it brings |
| 14:54.42 | wushu-br | alguem fala portuges? |
| 14:54.52 | wushu-br | portugues |
| 14:55.18 | jm_ | leOn: look for dlext= |
| 14:55.25 | jm_ | and dlsrc |
| 14:55.29 | leOn | jm_: thanks |
| 14:55.32 | Shayde | hey folks - can someone give me a 2nd blurb on when apt-get tells me that packages are 'kept back', what that means? I'm assuming it's because those packages are part of a larger release (say, KDE updates, which seem to be going from unstable to testing right now). even though some packages have moved to 'testing', it's not okay to install them until the entire group is ready? |
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| 14:55.44 | Shayde | sorry, that should have been a '2 second' |
| 14:55.45 | jm_ | leOn: it should say so and dl_dlopen.xs, respectively |
| 14:55.45 | caphuso | wushu-br: join #debian-br |
| 14:56.02 | jm_ | Shay: it meand they won't be upgraded |
| 14:56.04 | vindex | hi, where does "hostname -f" look for the full hostname? |
| 14:56.06 | jm_ | means |
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| 14:56.18 | vindex | I can't figure that out? |
| 14:56.28 | Shayde | jm_: yah, i figured that. but what's the exact reason they won't be? or did i peg it? |
| 14:56.50 | dasenjo | thanks for all ... ! |
| 14:56.53 | dasenjo | bye |
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| 14:57.07 | greycat | Shayde: /msg dpkg kept back |
| 14:57.10 | jcapote | can someone answer my simple question |
| 14:57.13 | jm_ | Shayde: there are several reasons, they either depend on something that's not available, or installing them requires removing of something else - try apt-get install <kept back package> and it will tell you what will happen |
| 14:57.20 | leOn | jm_: yes, it does ... i also notice that in that section, there's a reference to /usr/local/lib ... shouldn't be /usr/lib .. ? |
| 14:57.42 | jm_ | leOn: no, that's ok - it looks fine, maybe check BTS |
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| 14:58.03 | leOn | jm_: i have ... see no reference to that so far ... |
| 14:58.08 | Shayde | okay, dpkg has the descriptio - cool, thanks folks. |
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| 14:59.04 | Sazpaimon | Hello, all, I have just one question. I have Xebian (the Xbox version of Debian), and I was wondering why apt-get keeps installing older versions of packages |
| 14:59.13 | jm_ | leOn: maybe compare perl -V output to that of woody where it works |
| 14:59.24 | Sazpaimon | How do I set it up to install the newer versions of software |
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| 14:59.43 | leOn | will do that ... thanks for the help jm_ |
| 15:00.18 | Sazpaimon | I'm pretty new with the apt-get tool |
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| 15:02.30 | guyzmo | and is there an emacs package not dependant on X ? |
| 15:02.39 | guyzmo | (emacs21) |
| 15:02.48 | jm_ | guyzmo: it depends on X libs only |
| 15:02.56 | wushu-br | quit |
| 15:03.01 | guyzmo | it depends on xaw3dg |
| 15:03.18 | jm_ | yes, xlibs ... |
| 15:03.26 | guyzmo | yes... that's true |
| 15:03.27 | guyzmo | :) |
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| 15:04.02 | guyzmo | which depends on xfree86-common |
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| 15:04.15 | jm_ | yes, enough to run X clients |
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| 15:04.51 | Sazpaimon | Well? |
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| 15:04.57 | guyzmo | yeah, but why would I want to have an X client on a server which just does too many things ? |
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| 15:05.26 | guyzmo | I'd like to install my editors without being obligated to install X11 |
| 15:05.38 | guyzmo | I just think this is non-sense |
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| 15:06.18 | Sazpaimon | Do I need to set it up to download unstable releases? |
| 15:06.29 | Sazpaimon | or is it a mirror issue? |
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| 15:08.22 | bob2 | Sazpaimon: #xboxlinux on irc.oftc.net |
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| 15:08.42 | jm_ | guyzmo: then do so |
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| 15:08.51 | Sazpaimon | bob2 |
| 15:08.56 | Sazpaimon | I know of that channel |
| 15:09.00 | bob2 | then? |
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| 15:09.04 | Sazpaimon | but Xebian is not much different then Debian |
| 15:09.05 | bob2 | what does this have to do with us? |
| 15:09.11 | bob2 | "not much", whatever. |
| 15:09.16 | Sazpaimon | it's just a port to the Xbox |
| 15:09.35 | jm_ | not done by Debian |
| 15:09.37 | bob2 | I Can't Believe It's Not Debian! (tm) |
| 15:09.37 | greycat | Sazpaimon: man sources.list |
| 15:09.45 | jm_ | so ask them, how do we know what packages they provide ? |
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| 15:10.17 | Sazpaimon | I can't try that now, my Xbox isn't on so I can't use putty |
| 15:10.25 | greycat | Sazpaimon: then go away. |
| 15:10.25 | Sazpaimon | I'll have to try later |
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| 15:10.34 | bob2 | hah |
| 15:10.37 | Sazpaimon | but could you reccomend me some good mirrors? |
| 15:10.41 | bob2 | no |
| 15:10.42 | bob2 | they' |
| 15:10.46 | bob2 | re all the same |
| 15:10.49 | Sazpaimon | Oh, OK |
| 15:10.50 | bob2 | hence the term "mirror" |
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| 15:11.09 | bob2 | all the packages on the mirrors are the same as the ones on ftp.debian.org, but backwards |
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| 15:11.24 | pablo | how do i set the proxy 192.168.80.1:3128 to apt? |
| 15:11.27 | bob2 | if you run them through bplay, they turn out to be satanic messages |
| 15:11.41 | Sazpaimon | haw |
| 15:11.43 | _andy | pablo: in apt's config file |
| 15:11.49 | bob2 | spamhaus's SBL would block a lot of my spam |
| 15:11.49 | jm_ | pabl0_BUSY: man apt.conf |
| 15:12.03 | bob2 | but then I'm scared it will drop mail I care about on the floor |
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| 15:12.10 | Sazpaimon | OK, well, I'll check with the #xbox-linux people |
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| 15:13.47 | NaturalRoots | how i use links witch suporte a frame buffer ?? |
| 15:13.56 | jm_ | ehh ? |
| 15:14.29 | jm_ | you mean links the web browser ? |
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| 15:15.39 | Aranda | when i change anychoose with dpks reconfigure xserver.xfree86, why i cannot use startx ? it give me error (fatal IO error 104 on X server...) |
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| 15:16.10 | daxxar | anyone recommend a ftpd that's secure (and perhaps fast?), but no need to support 'virtual users' or 'virtual filesystems'. |
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| 15:16.25 | jm_ | try ftpd |
| 15:16.40 | green-ears | i have installed sarge with kde and i can not find the traditional debian wallpaper, i apt-get install kdewallpaper, any idears |
| 15:16.53 | pablo | how con i set the http_proxy env variable? |
| 15:17.19 | xenohugs | :o |
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| 15:17.44 | bob2 | green-ears: desktop-base |
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| 15:17.52 | bob2 | pablo: how do you set any other env var? |
| 15:17.53 | abrotman | green-ears: kde-look.org? .. something like that |
| 15:18.03 | green-ears | ok |
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| 15:18.04 | bob2 | Aranda: that means you're misconfiguring it, Don't Do That. |
| 15:18.06 | pablo | i dont know :) |
| 15:18.11 | pablo | how do i do it? |
| 15:18.17 | bob2 | pablo: export http_proxy=whatever |
| 15:18.33 | pablo | ok many tyhanks bob2! |
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| 15:19.18 | netdur | distrowatch said that debian will be release this week, which is last week now, when really debian will be release? |
| 15:19.18 | bob2 | pablo: add it to /etc/profile to make it permanent for new logins |
| 15:19.36 | jm_ | netdur: ask distro watch, they seem to know more |
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| 15:20.19 | bob2 | hahahahahahaha |
| 15:20.20 | bob2 | haha |
| 15:20.21 | bob2 | hah |
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| 15:20.33 | greycat | !laugh at bob2 |
| 15:20.34 | dpkg | HAHAHA! AH-HAHA! bob2 just cracks me up! |
| 15:20.45 | bob2 | distrowatch has officially lost all credibility |
| 15:20.47 | bob2 | ever |
| 15:20.54 | netdur | ok, is there any roadmap? |
| 15:20.55 | bob2 | you can't recover from stupidity like that |
| 15:21.03 | bob2 | netdur: when it's ready, duh |
| 15:21.19 | greycat | netdur: read the debian-devel-announce archives |
| 15:21.24 | bob2 | you can't tell DD's "Sareg will release on this date, you and your family will be murdered if you're not ready" |
| 15:21.26 | d0ugie | i apt-got gnome, installed halfway and then got errors on dpkg .. trying to remove it, i get a ton of dpkg: dependency problems. Any simple way to clean this up? |
| 15:21.39 | bob2 | d0ugie: newbis shouldn't use unstable |
| 15:21.51 | thomas_adam | LOL @ apt-got |
| 15:21.52 | bob2 | d0ugie: file a bug in the BTS if nobody has yet |
| 15:22.14 | d0ugie | how do you know i'm running unstable |
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| 15:22.24 | _andy | educated guess |
| 15:22.25 | _andy | :) |
| 15:22.29 | daxxar | :-) |
| 15:22.38 | bob2 | d0ugie: becaue it broke |
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| 15:22.56 | d0ugie | well you're right .. i'll roll back the sources list |
| 15:23.00 | _andy | bob2 is clairvoyant |
| 15:23.01 | bob2 | that won't fix it |
| 15:23.08 | d0ugie | newbies really shouldn't go unstable/testing |
| 15:23.09 | bob2 | it will probablly break it more |
| 15:23.17 | Aranda | bob2 the x works before, but when i changued resolution, it stopped to go :( Error 104 on X server |
| 15:23.18 | bob2 | yup |
| 15:23.19 | _andy | you can't downgrade |
| 15:23.27 | jm_ | how do you roll back sources.list if you're on unstable anyway ? |
| 15:23.36 | _andy | err |
| 15:23.40 | jm_ | Aranda: logfile will tell you why, we've told you hours ago |
| 15:23.40 | greycat | jm_: you don't |
| 15:23.41 | d0ugie | well, i was unstable, then i made it testing |
| 15:23.42 | _andy | not afaik |
| 15:23.42 | bob2 | Aranda: so don't change it |
| 15:23.51 | jm_ | d0ugie: that won't work |
| 15:23.54 | bob2 | d0ugie: that will break thigns more |
| 15:23.57 | _andy | d0ugie: that's why it broke |
| 15:23.59 | d0ugie | right |
| 15:24.00 | Aranda | jm_ i dont see it the error in log :( |
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| 15:24.07 | bob2 | which RBL's do you guys use, if any? |
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| 15:24.19 | _andy | rbl's? |
| 15:24.22 | jm_ | Aranda: put it somewhere on-line, http://tnx.nl/scribble or http://www.nomorepasting.com or ... |
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| 15:24.29 | d0ugie | so that's spilled milk.. if i change it back to its original state and do a dist upgrade, will that get me anywhere? |
| 15:24.29 | greycat | !rbl |
| 15:24.30 | dpkg | methinks rbl is Mail Abuse Prevention System (MAPS)'s Realtime Blackhole List, a system to identify likely origins of spam. See http://mail-abuse.org/rbl/, or a general term for dozens of systems that work on the same basic principle of DNS lookups |
| 15:24.44 | _andy | ah none |
| 15:24.56 | d0ugie | or do i have to rm everything related to x, switch away from testing, and install again? |
| 15:24.57 | greycat | d0ugie: apt-get will never downgrade a package |
| 15:24.59 | _andy | we used reverse dns combined with blacklists on our mail servers |
| 15:25.08 | greycat | d0ugie: unless you specifically *tell* it to downgrade *that one package* |
| 15:25.10 | _andy | which bounced like 95% spam & 5% real mail |
| 15:25.15 | _andy | so we turned it off |
| 15:25.20 | _andy | and live with spam |
| 15:25.21 | _andy | :( |
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| 15:25.28 | jm_ | Aranda: on second thought, pasting it there with X might be a tad problematic, try doing it in a working resolution and save the file before-hand |
| 15:25.30 | sliipy | have any of you guys gotten postfix+mysql to work in debian? |
| 15:25.39 | guyzmo | sliipy - I'm on it :) |
| 15:25.40 | bob2 | sliipy: works a charm |
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| 15:25.47 | d0ugie | understood.. but if i remove a package, change the sources list, and re-apt-get, it will install the version of the package on the sources list |
| 15:25.48 | Samuel | sup all |
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| 15:25.50 | guyzmo | bob2 - what doc did you use ? |
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| 15:26.04 | greycat | d0ugie: if the only unstable stuff you grabbed was X, then you can follow the advice in /msg dpkg remove X |
| 15:26.14 | sliipy | guyzmo, bob2: can you try to help me with it? |
| 15:26.21 | guyzmo | sliipy - I don't know |
| 15:26.27 | guyzmo | sliipy - it still doesn't work :) |
| 15:26.32 | sliipy | hehe |
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| 15:26.40 | d0ugie | greycat: yeah, x stuff and on an upgrade, console-common kept screwing up the apt'ing |
| 15:26.41 | bob2 | guyzmo: craig small's one |
| 15:26.44 | d0ugie | ok i'll /msg dpkg |
| 15:26.51 | int0x6h | hi there, if i have winblows on my system can i make the partitions for debian, then simply put the files from the floppyboot onto the harddrive and have it boot and run that? I do not have a floppy drive or cd-recorder to use atm. |
| 15:26.53 | bob2 | guyzmo: for sasl, and the kirby one for incomign mail |
| 15:26.55 | sliipy | guyzmo: having problems with postfix not looking for aliases/mailboxes in the sql ? |
| 15:27.10 | bob2 | sliipy: which howto are you reading? |
| 15:27.15 | bob2 | sliipy: and are you using postfix 2? |
| 15:27.18 | sliipy | bob2: high5.net/howto |
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| 15:27.29 | jm_ | int0x6h: did you read installation guide ? it explains how to install Debian from a hard disk |
| 15:27.43 | sliipy | ii postfix 1.1.11-0.woody A high-performance mail transport agent |
| 15:27.46 | sliipy | ii postfix-mysql 1.1.11-0.woody MYSQL map support for Postfix |
| 15:27.49 | int0x6h | jm_: oh sorry I did not see that, I'll look again |
| 15:27.58 | jm_ | int0x6h: or possibly even try one of the netinst ISO images to boot from CD-ROM, it's 30M only |
| 15:27.58 | Samuel | i have a problem with my linux box - sometimes when i use it the hard disk seems to remain on and it freezes - then i have to force reboot and when i restart it (this has happened twice) many files are corrupt and "unaccessible" - is this a problem with the hard disk or the motherboard - is there any way to tell? |
| 15:27.58 | sliipy | doh |
| 15:27.58 | guyzmo | sliipy - err.. what's your problem |
| 15:27.58 | guyzmo | ? |
| 15:28.01 | bob2 | sliipy: http://kirby.insanegenius.net/postfix.html |
| 15:28.05 | wuming | how to load the GF4 drive in xfree86 |
| 15:28.05 | jm_ | ahh you said you don't have CDR |
| 15:28.17 | bob2 | wuming: woody? |
| 15:28.19 | int0x6h | yep, no cdr or floppy |
| 15:28.20 | wuming | yup |
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| 15:28.27 | d0ugie | greycat: so if i remove xf4, will it also clean out my window/desktop managers? |
| 15:28.28 | sliipy | bob2: i've tried that howto aswell, doesn't work either.. |
| 15:28.29 | bob2 | sliipy: dunno if it will work with postfix 1 |
| 15:28.34 | int0x6h | but i have network access, a few pc's and harddrives :P |
| 15:28.35 | bob2 | wuming: /msg dpkg geforce4 |
| 15:28.39 | bob2 | sliipy: use postfix 2 |
| 15:28.41 | sliipy | hmm okey |
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| 15:28.47 | greycat | d0ugie: yes |
| 15:28.48 | sliipy | bob2: can i run postfix2 in stable ? |
| 15:28.48 | bob2 | sliipy: www.backports.org |
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| 15:28.59 | jm_ | yeah you can boot from a hard disk with loadlin, but it won't work if you'll try it from windows, you'll need DOS or somesuch |
| 15:29.11 | guyzmo | bob2 - I just find that the pfadmin howto just sux |
| 15:29.12 | guyzmo | :) |
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| 15:29.23 | greycat | d0ugie: if you can, at a PACKAGE LEVEL, determine which packages were installed from sid, then you can just purge THOSE packages using --force-depends. |
| 15:29.23 | sliipy | oh |
| 15:29.29 | greycat | d0ugie: but I wouldn't recommend it |
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| 15:29.40 | d0ugie | greycat: screw it i'll just whipe it all out |
| 15:29.48 | d0ugie | thanks fellas |
| 15:30.02 | int0x6h | jm_: so when i boot from the hd with loadlin, does the files besides loadlin go on the winpartition, or a ext2/3 partition? |
| 15:30.19 | jm_ | int0x6h: no, you'll boot into DOS somehow and then start loadlin.exe |
| 15:30.32 | jm_ | int0x6h: wherever your current OS and thus loadlin can read them from |
| 15:30.57 | jm_ | int0x6h: as for Debian installer, it should be able to read them from vfat partition |
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| 15:31.13 | Samuel | i have a problem with my linux box - sometimes when i use it the hard disk seems to remain on and it freezes - then i have to force reboot and when i restart it (this has happened twice) many files are corrupt and "unaccessible" - is this a problem with the hard disk or the motherboard - is there any way to tell? |
| 15:31.43 | bob2 | greycat: do you use MAPS? |
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| 15:32.24 | guyzmo | actually I found that : http://www.marlow.dk/tech/postfix.php |
| 15:32.26 | guyzmo | is even better |
| 15:32.50 | greycat | bob2: no |
| 15:33.05 | greycat | bob2: I only use spamassassin and a simple virus-blocking patch |
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| 15:35.01 | bob2 | greycat: can qmail use spamassassin to decide wheather or nto to reject mail? |
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| 15:35.40 | d0ugie | which kernel does debian-installer beta 4 on deb org/devel/debian-installer? |
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| 15:35.49 | jm_ | two |
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| 15:36.17 | sliipy | YES |
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| 15:36.52 | bob2 | 2.4.25 or 26 |
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| 15:37.12 | d0ugie | i have the choice? |
| 15:37.13 | sliipy | bob2: <3 |
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| 15:37.16 | sliipy | :) |
| 15:37.32 | bob2 | sliipy: hah |
| 15:37.38 | bob2 | d0ugie: no, I forget which it is |
| 15:37.42 | jm_ | bob2: doesn't beta4 also support 2.6 ? maybe it just supports it but it's not included in it |
| 15:37.53 | bob2 | oh yeah |
| 15:37.56 | bob2 | and 2.6.3 or soomething |
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| 15:38.00 | jm_ | yeah |
| 15:38.02 | Penix | wenas |
| 15:38.06 | sliipy | and todays' hug-of-love goes to: bob2 |
| 15:38.06 | sliipy | :P |
| 15:38.18 | greycat | bob2: no, SA never serves as the basis for rejecting mail at the SMTP level |
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| 15:38.41 | greycat | bob2: of course, you can drop the mail on the floor after running it through SA if you really want to, but I don't do that |
| 15:38.44 | bob2 | hah |
| 15:38.46 | Samuel | are there any hardware channels able to answer hardware related questions? |
| 15:38.55 | jm_ | greycat: it does with those plugins, doesn't it ? http://marc.merlins.org/linux/exim/sa.html |
| 15:38.58 | int0x6h | jm_: okay so right now i have a ntfs system. so i'm obviousley going to have to make a vfat, then put the loadlin on, but what other files? just install.bat and linux.bin and drivers.tgz ? |
| 15:39.10 | greycat | jm_: I don't use exim |
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| 15:39.15 | jm_ | greycat: ahh |
| 15:39.38 | jm_ | int0x6h: read install guide first |
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| 15:41.32 | Hal9002 | hello, i have a problem with syslog-ng... i configured it to log shorewall messages to a separate file, however nothing is being written to that file (it exists, right chmod and chown), and the shorewall logs are just being lost into nowhere. what could be the problem? |
| 15:41.39 | jm_ | Samuel: tried using more recent kernel ? |
| 15:41.44 | gilga | lol |
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| 15:42.21 | jpdp | I'm trying to figure out how to allow VPN through an iptables firewall. It seems that somehow PPPTP is involved, but I'm uncertain of what needs to be done. My first attempt of just a port forward seemed to fail. |
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| 15:44.46 | Samuel | jm_: the computer had been running fine for 2 years - the last kernel update was the 2.4 kernel with woody |
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| 15:45.02 | jm_ | Samuel: that's 2.4.18, try 2.4.26 and see if it works |
| 15:45.08 | int0x6h | anyone have any screenshots of a woody workstation? |
| 15:45.20 | Penix | int0x6h: why? |
| 15:45.34 | int0x6h | to see what it looks like |
| 15:45.36 | jm_ | int0x6h: I doubt anyone would be interesting in picutres of my Vectra VL420 DT |
| 15:45.38 | khorben_ | old. |
| 15:45.52 | Penix | int0x6h: just google for gnome 1.4 or kde 2.2 screenshots or something |
| 15:45.55 | jm_ | interested even |
| 15:46.05 | abrotman | Samuel: perhaps you should just ask |
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| 15:46.13 | greycat | int0x6h: it looks like an 80x24 text console, or like FVWM, or like twm, or like blackbox, or like wmaker, or like ... |
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| 15:47.28 | Samuel | jm_: thing is i have to reinstall linux again, i dont want to do that and then find out it had nothing to do with the kernel |
| 15:47.37 | Samuel | abrotman: ask what? |
| 15:47.50 | jm_ | Samuel: well it might be a bug in Linux, or you may have crap hardware, or ... |
| 15:47.50 | abrotman | didn'ty you say you had a hardware related question? |
| 15:48.05 | abrotman | Samuel: sorry .. now i see it |
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| 15:48.23 | abrotman | Samuel: id put money on HDD |
| 15:48.32 | ribnitz | heyas |
| 15:48.39 | abrotman | Samuel: way to try is to put another HDD in |
| 15:49.00 | Samuel | abrotman: im thinking to go get one now |
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| 15:49.22 | Samuel | but dont really want to - wanna check to see if it might be the motherboard first |
| 15:49.39 | ribnitz | If you were to do an e-shop on a sarge box, what would you recommend, are there free alternatives to oscommerce? |
| 15:49.55 | abrotman | Samuel: could be bad cable |
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| 15:50.15 | abrotman | ribnitz: whats oscommerce? |
| 15:50.37 | Samuel | abrotman: bad cable? there has been no movement in the computer for 2 years almost |
| 15:50.42 | ribnitz | abrotman: An Open Source solution providing an e-shop (www.oscommerce.com). |
| 15:50.54 | abrotman | ribnitz: does .. interchange do that? |
| 15:51.06 | ribnitz | abrotman: interchange? |
| 15:51.11 | abrotman | Samuel: shit happens? .. why did the mobo/hdd die? |
| 15:51.24 | jm_ | Samuel: did you notice caps/scroll LED-s flashing when it happens ? |
| 15:51.28 | abrotman | http://packages.debian.org/testing/web/interchange |
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| 15:52.06 | abrotman | Samuel: or smoke :) |
| 15:52.10 | jm_ | Samuel: if they do, it's a kernel panic |
| 15:52.15 | ribnitz | abrotman: problem with oscommerce is that its axed on mysql. |
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| 15:52.36 | abrotman | ribnitz: interchange can use any iirc |
| 15:53.07 | abrotman | ribnitz: i believe its perl related if that helps |
| 15:53.38 | ribnitz | abrotman: you don't use it yourself? |
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| 15:54.56 | Samuel | abrotman: what is a mobo? |
| 15:55.08 | sliipy | bob2: how about teapop and mysql then? :) |
| 15:55.24 | greycat | !mobo |
| 15:55.25 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, mobo is short for motherboard |
| 15:55.32 | Aranda | where i can get glibc package? |
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| 15:55.49 | ricky_clarkson | What the fuck is wtf? |
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| 15:55.58 | greycat | Aranda: you have them already. |
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| 15:56.14 | Samuel | jm_: no - it just froze, no flashing lights |
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| 15:59.00 | Aranda | how can i install an driver .rpm from a CD? |
| 15:59.18 | nkuttler | Aranda: try alien |
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| 15:59.27 | tuxillo | Hello |
| 15:59.28 | goodell | (you can access it on the cd, right?) |
| 15:59.29 | nkuttler | Aranda: what driver? |
| 15:59.32 | g4lt | Aranda alien, but are you sure theere isn't a .deb floating around? |
| 15:59.54 | goodell | What are you really trying to do? |
| 15:59.59 | greycat | I doubt alienating a kernel driver RPM to .deb would be very useful. |
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| 16:00.15 | greycat | since he/she wouldn't have the matching Red Hat kernel to load it into |
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| 16:00.26 | g4lt | greycat if the versions match up, it's trivial |
| 16:00.27 | abrotman | ribnitz: i do not .. i know people who do |
| 16:00.32 | tuxillo | When I start links -g in my 800x600 VESA framebuffer, I got a smaller-than-screen window in the top left corner of my screen. I would like to know if someone had this problem and what causes it. Thank you. :) |
| 16:00.33 | mxpxpod | how would I go about getting debian to use gcc-3.2 for its default instead of gcc-3.3? |
| 16:00.33 | abrotman | Samuel: MOtherBOard |
| 16:00.39 | greycat | g4lt: that's a very big "if" |
| 16:00.51 | sliipy | anyone here done teapop + mysql ? |
| 16:01.01 | greycat | mxpxpod: ls -ld /usr/bin/gcc* |
| 16:01.23 | Aranda | nkuttler ati driver... |
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| 16:01.34 | nkuttler | Aranda: _what_ ati driver? |
| 16:01.34 | greycat | Aranda: /msg dpkg ati drivers |
| 16:01.38 | mxpxpod | greycat: just symlink all that stuff again?? |
| 16:01.43 | greycat | Aranda: duh... |
| 16:01.53 | Aranda | for video card... |
| 16:02.02 | greycat | Aranda: /msg dpkg ati drivers |
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| 16:02.08 | Aranda | k.. |
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| 16:02.14 | tuxillo | I would like that links2 fill all my screen instead a half |
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| 16:05.25 | FarrisGee | I'm trying to get X started on a shitty machine they gave me at work, but I'm getting this in the log after fail: ""NVIDIA: No matching Device section for instance" |
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| 16:05.43 | FarrisGee | Does that mean I'm missing a module, or that it can't find the right device? |
| 16:05.55 | greycat | I'd ask #nvidia |
| 16:05.57 | elnovato | what gforce do you have? |
| 16:06.25 | FarrisGee | heh, it's not a geforce. It's a PCI TNT2 |
| 16:06.28 | Aranda | ey, to install dev files, i have to add url to sources.list ? |
| 16:06.35 | ricky_clarkson | elnovato: 4Gs. |
| 16:06.58 | thomas_adam | !britsmite ricky_clarkson |
| 16:06.59 | elnovato | farr , compile yer kernel with nvidia drivers |
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| 16:07.32 | FarrisGee | elnovato: already done |
| 16:07.59 | bob2 | how would that help? |
| 16:08.02 | bob2 | your X config is fucked |
| 16:08.06 | bob2 | !+setup x |
| 16:08.06 | dpkg | methinks set up x is To set up X in woody, sarge or sid, "apt-get install discover read-edid mdetect && dpkg --force-depends -P xserver-xfree86 && apt-get install xserver-xfree86" (or x-window-system-core instead of xserver-xfree86 if you don't have it yet) Sometimes "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" works. dpkg-reconfigure will keep your old values as defaults each time you run it. JUST SAY NO to the frame buffer. |
| 16:08.22 | elnovato | farris proced with : rm -fR / |
| 16:08.35 | bob2 | elnovato: no |
| 16:08.38 | FarrisGee | no thanks, yo |
| 16:08.40 | bob2 | you get one warning, ever |
| 16:08.41 | greycat | elnovato: not funny |
| 16:08.56 | FarrisGee | Glad I'm not a dumbass, jerk |
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| 16:09.19 | elnovato | sorry.., but i knew you are an expert |
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| 16:10.32 | FarrisGee | hehe. bob2: "your X config is fucked" no shit :) |
| 16:10.32 | sgrzy01 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:10.46 | sgrzy01 | oops.. |
| 16:10.58 | Bols | I did it again =) |
| 16:11.13 | bob2 | so run the command dpkg gave |
| 16:11.15 | sgrzy01 | nice.... |
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| 16:12.34 | jpdp | Hmm perhaps my problem is stranger than I thought, the VPN failures are intermittant.... |
| 16:12.43 | sliipy | have anyone here gotten teapop + mysql to work? |
| 16:12.46 | elnovato | when is going to be release the debian installer?? |
| 16:12.56 | elnovato | new* |
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| 16:13.06 | ricky_clarkson | elnovato: released in what way? |
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| 16:13.28 | abrotman | elnovato: beta4 is out ... /msg dpkg d-i |
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| 16:14.06 | elnovato | nice nice |
| 16:14.12 | greycat | elnovato: and see /topic #debian-boot |
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| 16:14.16 | lokus | fellas are there any good debian forums or msg boards around? |
| 16:14.16 | knoppix_ | oco chodzi |
| 16:14.23 | matteorox | hello all |
| 16:14.26 | greycat | lokus: debianplanet comes to mind |
| 16:14.32 | knoppix_ | jestem polen i nie kapuje |
| 16:14.39 | Saw^ | when I try to change man-pages to plain text, cat reads them right, but other editors/viewers show bold&CAPital text like T TH HI IS S |
| 16:14.39 | abrotman | lokus: debianplanet.org .. debianhelp.org |
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| 16:14.51 | matteorox | has someone of you a modem pci adsl called 'accessrunner' with conexant chipset, and want to help me? |
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| 16:15.29 | elnovato | modem?? i tough that device was deprecated years ago |
| 16:16.03 | matteorox | elnovato, what do you mean? |
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| 16:16.26 | nijan | Excuse me, i'm using proftpd, i can access using the user specified by the directive only using the local ip eg:10.0.0.2 |
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| 16:16.33 | mxpxpod | is there any way to cross compile from an i386 to ppc? |
| 16:16.33 | abrotman | elnovato: its a dsl modem |
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| 16:16.40 | abrotman | also cable modems exist |
| 16:16.51 | elnovato | oh |
| 16:16.53 | nijan | other user i the directive virtualhost work. |
| 16:17.33 | cyberyo | io |
| 16:17.38 | greycat | mxpxpod: yes, but I don't know what the "Debian Way" to set up a cross-compiler is |
| 16:17.47 | jpdp | Anyone know of anything that could intermittantly interfere with a firewall's ability to handle a VPN connection? |
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| 16:18.08 | mxpxpod | greycat: hmm... know anyone that would know? |
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| 16:18.36 | abrotman | mxpxpod: #gcc ? |
| 16:18.38 | sliipy | i'm running postfix+courier-imap+mysql and it runs like a charm, but now i'd like some pop3 support, and i'm trying to implement teapop... i'm using this line in the teapop.passwd: "empty:*:mysql:/var/spool/postfix/virtual:md5:102:102:localhost::postfix:postfix:postfix:mailbox:username:password" but when i reload teapop-mysql it says "line xx corrupt; please check the syntax"... what could be wrong? |
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| 16:19.03 | abrotman | sliipy: why not use courier for pop3? |
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| 16:19.22 | sliipy | abrotman: i don't know? it doesn't matter to me.. |
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| 16:19.48 | abrotman | sliipy: just that you already have courier-imap running .. why not just add pop3 |
| 16:19.58 | sliipy | didn't thought of that ;) |
| 16:20.27 | daWinni | what module do i have to load to get a "trailing slash" redirect in apache2 ? |
| 16:21.20 | elnovato | is there something better than KDE (desktop)? |
| 16:21.30 | greycat | elnovato: yes |
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| 16:21.37 | daWinni | better is relative :) |
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| 16:21.44 | sliipy | yes! :P |
| 16:21.46 | greycat | !better |
| 16:21.47 | dpkg | from memory, better is a matter of personal taste; asking "is foo better than bar?" is almost meaningless unless we know what *you* mean by "better". |
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| 16:22.03 | sliipy | anyone have a clue how to implement spamassassin with virtual users? |
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| 16:22.48 | elnovato | i mean, in terms of usability |
| 16:22.51 | ricky_clarkson | Why do virtual users care about spam? ;) |
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| 16:23.45 | greycat | they're allergic |
| 16:23.52 | opolterauer | hello, who knows where i can fetch garnome to compile gnome by my own? |
| 16:24.38 | abrotman | gnome.org |
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| 16:24.51 | nnn | hey |
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| 16:25.00 | abrotman | opolterauer: but why? |
| 16:25.05 | opolterauer | abrotman, i know, i was there, can't find it anymore, ~jdub is 404 |
| 16:25.13 | nnn | The Xorg X11 server is the one that provides shadows, isnit?? |
| 16:25.25 | abrotman | opolterauer: but why compile? |
| 16:25.28 | opolterauer | abrotman, well, i can't get it out of experimental, dependency problems with libgtop2 |
| 16:26.57 | opolterauer | abrotman, any advices? |
| 16:27.40 | abrotman | opolterauer: there are other scripts |
| 16:27.43 | sliipy | do i need SASL to make smtp-auth to work? |
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| 16:28.03 | Mahler | how can i fix -" socket: Address family not supported by protocol " |
| 16:28.04 | opolterauer | abrotman, ok, what other scripts are there ;-)? |
| 16:28.15 | Nurbs | sliipy: yes. one or another implementation |
| 16:28.20 | sliipy | okey |
| 16:28.21 | abrotman | opolterauer: have you asked on irc.gnome.org? |
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| 16:28.36 | opolterauer | abrotman, i'l try :) |
| 16:28.37 | Nurbs | sliipy: with postfix cyrus sasl |
| 16:28.41 | greycat | Mahler: could you be any more vague? |
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| 16:28.48 | sliipy | okey |
| 16:29.11 | sliipy | Nurbs: is it this package? |
| 16:29.12 | sliipy | postfix-tls - TLS and SASL support for Postfix |
| 16:29.14 | Mahler | greycat: its an error while starting up /etc/init.d/networking |
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| 16:29.41 | Nurbs | sliipy: that and some others, yes |
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| 16:29.59 | Mahler | greycat: modprobe SEEMS to work during some bootups |
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| 16:30.11 | Nurbs | sliipy: are you on woody? |
| 16:30.19 | sliipy | Nurbs: hm, stable.. :) |
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| 16:30.33 | sliipy | but i'm using backports to get postfix 2 |
| 16:30.37 | Nurbs | ungh :) |
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| 16:30.54 | Nurbs | I wonder if they use SASL 2, too. |
| 16:30.59 | sliipy | do you recommend switching to testing ? |
| 16:31.08 | abrotman | sliipy: i thikn theres a sasl-basicauth also needed .. or something liek that |
| 16:31.10 | Nurbs | I don't recommend anything :) |
| 16:31.11 | shaleh | anyone have a preference for a non-php based webmail package? |
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| 16:31.18 | Mahler | greycat: then it says make sure CONFIG_PACKET (Packet socket) and CONFIG_FILTER (Socket Filtering) are enabled in your kernel configuration |
| 16:31.29 | sliipy | abrotman: okey |
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| 16:32.09 | es | how debian deal with ~/.bashrc ? didn't they get sourced by default? |
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| 16:32.20 | ricky_clarkson | es: man bash |
| 16:32.28 | Nurbs | sliipy: well, on unstable you'd probably want libsasl2, libsasl2-modules, sasl2-bin, postfix-tls. maybe libsasl2-modules-sql in your case, too |
| 16:32.33 | greycat | !kernel options for DHCP |
| 16:32.33 | dpkg | Use CONFIG_FILTER (Networking Options -> Socket Filtering) (dhcp-client package requires it) and CONFIG_PACKET (Networking Options -> Packet Socket). If you forgot, you'll have to recompile. CONFIG_IP_PNP_DHCP should be reserved for special uses like diskless clients: if you asked you don't need it. |
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| 16:32.36 | greycat | Mahler: ^^^ |
| 16:32.52 | Nurbs | sliipy: the latter was formerly split into libsasl2-modules-mysql and the pgsql part |
| 16:32.54 | sliipy | Nurbs: okey, they don't excist in stable i guess.. |
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| 16:33.08 | greycat | Mahler: if you had started out your plea for help with "I built a custom 2.x.y kernel and now my DHCP interface doesn't work, and oh by the way, this is the error..." it would have gone a lot more smoothly |
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| 16:33.24 | es | ricky_clarkson: come on, I know bash but I don't know why they don't get sourced bu default. Is that normal in debian? |
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| 16:33.37 | Nurbs | sliipy: don't know. maybe they're backported, too... |
| 16:33.44 | greycat | es: read ~/.bash_profile |
| 16:33.46 | sliipy | Nurbs: i can see cyrus-sasl2 in the backports... is that the one? |
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| 16:33.51 | Mahler | greycat: these problems cropped up after a few bootups |
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| 16:33.54 | sliipy | hmm, looks like |
| 16:33.55 | greycat | es: uncomment the "source ~/.bashrc" line |
| 16:34.06 | es | greycat: thanks |
| 16:34.13 | greycat | Mahler: so... your kernel spontaneously rebuilt itself without your knowledge? |
| 16:34.21 | bltfast32 | is there anyway to get a prog to load it's libs from a place other than where it was configured for at compile time? |
| 16:34.49 | greycat | bltfast32: LD_LIBRARY_PATH and friends. man ld.so |
| 16:34.53 | bltfast32 | thx |
| 16:34.56 | shaleh | bltfast32: that is what /etc/ld.so.conf does |
| 16:34.56 | Strider22 | apt-get says mysql is not available. - woody stable - why? - How do I get it? |
| 16:34.57 | Mahler | greycat: i have no idea, system worked fine during first 2 bootups |
| 16:35.15 | greycat | Strider22: apt-cache search mysql |
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| 16:36.14 | Mahler | greycat: a variety of errors have come up since then, modprobe errors, module dependency detection errors, i dunno whether its something wrong with my hardware |
| 16:36.32 | es | greycat: hey I don't have .bash_profile in home nor in /etc. I have tried to rename ~/.bashrc to ~/.bash_profile but still they don't get sourced on logon |
| 16:36.36 | Mahler | greycat: i have reinstalled 3 times in the last 3 days |
| 16:36.41 | greycat | es: cat /etc/debian_version |
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| 16:36.48 | Mahler | greycat: noobish eh |
| 16:36.51 | greycat | Mahler: try memtest86? |
| 16:37.03 | es | woody 3.0 |
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| 16:38.02 | Mahler | greycat: where? when? |
| 16:38.22 | greycat | es: cat /etc/skel/.bash_profile |
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| 16:38.42 | NaturalRoots | hie |
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| 16:39.03 | sliipy | May 10 18:38:51 thunder postfix/smtpd[22706]: fatal: no SASL authentication mechanisms |
| 16:39.03 | sliipy | hm |
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| 16:39.05 | concu | yo |
| 16:39.08 | concu | can someone help me |
| 16:39.36 | concu | konqueror: ERROR: ERROR 3: couldn't create slave : Can't talk to klauncher |
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| 16:41.54 | greycat | concu: #debian-kde might |
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| 16:42.12 | concu | oh |
| 16:42.16 | concu | thanks greycat |
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| 16:42.34 | es | concu: I think you need to restart X or dcop_server |
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| 16:42.54 | concu | es: i did that |
| 16:42.57 | gino | hello, why i can't use the command cd .. in my first directory? i appear to be chrooted but defaultRoot is set to / |
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| 16:43.19 | Zeenix | hello guys |
| 16:43.26 | gino | i also have the permission because changing my home i can cd into dir. |
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| 16:43.37 | concu | oh yeah |
| 16:43.38 | concu | hey |
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| 16:43.53 | Strider22 | greycat: Thanks - was mysql-server |
| 16:43.53 | concu | i restarted dcop_server and it worked now |
| 16:43.59 | concu | thanks es :) |
| 16:43.59 | Mahler | greycat: where do i run memtest86? |
| 16:44.07 | Zeenix | can anyone tell me where can i get the md5s of the sid ISOs at http://debian.linux.org.tw/debian-unofficial/sid/ |
| 16:44.14 | Gathond | Mahler: you boot memtest86 actually |
| 16:44.19 | es | gino check your user in /etc/passwd |
| 16:44.27 | es | gino check your user _home_ in /etc/passwd |
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| 16:44.38 | tete | Mahler: we employ a boot disk with a memory test inside |
| 16:44.50 | ploum | Hi |
| 16:44.57 | greycat | Mahler: you read the documentation in /usr/share/doc/memtest86/ after installing it. |
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| 16:45.01 | tete | Mahler: if you can boot your machine a memory fault will be rare |
| 16:45.10 | eruin | hm, anyone know of a repository with muine 0.6 debs? |
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| 16:45.38 | ploum | I've installed a package (webcyaradm) without his dependencies with --ignore. But now apt-get want to remove it every time I run apt-get install. How can I say to apt-get to ignore this package ? |
| 16:45.54 | greycat | ploum: you can't. Fix your dependencies. |
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| 16:47.07 | Mahler | thanks all |
| 16:47.11 | ploum | greycat : webcyradm want cyrus. But I have cyrus21 instead ! |
| 16:47.12 | daWinni | hmmmm. where is mod_dir for apache2 ? is there any debian package? it is NOT in apache2-common. strange... |
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| 16:47.39 | Slippy | Greeting fellows...I got a major problem :P |
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| 16:48.21 | ploum | I don't want to fixe dependencies |
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| 16:48.34 | greycat | ploum: then you have 3 choices: edit webcyradm's Depends:, or edit cyrus21's Provides:, or use equivs to generate something else that Provides: the thing you need to provide. |
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| 16:48.44 | Slippy | I'm installing debian on my brothers computer...an old on which is unable to boot from a cdrom - which I why I'm using the disks root.bin rescue, driver1-4 ... But whenfound I'm about to chose net-modules for his 8139too nic it can't be |
| 16:48.46 | Slippy | found |
| 16:49.05 | greycat | Slippy: alt-f2, ifconfig -a, dmesg | grep eth |
| 16:49.28 | Mahler | tete: if not memory fault, could my hard disk be losing clusters? |
| 16:49.43 | Slippy | greycat - but shouldn't the 8139too module be in the list? |
| 16:49.53 | greycat | Slippy: don't guess. |
| 16:49.54 | tete | Mahler: yes it can. |
| 16:50.31 | gino | hmm, yes it join in the home directory, why tell him to join in a irectory? i used DefaultChdir and dafaultRoot but nothing. |
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| 16:50.58 | gino | hmm, yes it join in the home directory, why tell him to join in a irectory? i used DefaultChdir and dafaultRoot but nothing. (and also left hthe user chdir in the entire fs) |
| 16:51.08 | ploum | greycat : where can I find doc about equivs or Provides ? |
| 16:51.18 | greycat | ploum: /msg dpkg mg |
| 16:51.26 | Slippy | greycat - well on the network card( on the chip ) it says it's a realtek 8139 - this is why I'm positive I need to use the module 8139too - but it's not on the list? |
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| 16:51.34 | leuven_ | hi |
| 16:51.38 | nonix4 | hmm... security-in-depth reminder: *never* use *first ethernet interface* as a "trusted" network - guess what happens if a lightning burns that card out... |
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| 16:53.11 | leuven_ | Can someone help me in setting up the xfree: when i try to choose the keyboard optins in (xf86cfg -textmode) i got the following:XKB Rules file not found Keyboard XKB options will be set to defaults |
| 16:53.17 | greycat | Slippy: alt-f2, ifconfig -a, dmesg | grep eth |
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| 16:53.36 | ixi-deb04 | hi |
| 16:53.38 | leuven_ | hi |
| 16:53.40 | Slippy | alright I'll try that - but I'm doing it over the phone with my brother - so I gotta explain it to him |
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| 16:53.53 | sussudio | !fruitsmite java |
| 16:53.55 | Slippy | What will I learn from doing that, greycat? |
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| 16:54.10 | greycat | nonix4: uh... the cable will be plugged into a non-working NIC, so nothing will happen at all? Just a guess... :) |
| 16:54.19 | greycat | Slippy: why not do it and find out? |
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| 16:54.55 | Slippy | Cause I need to call me brother first and tell him what to do :P the phoneline is busy |
| 16:54.57 | nonix4 | greycat: on that interface, but think again what happens to the other interfaces if that one is burnt enough to disappear from the devices detected? |
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| 16:55.43 | leuven_ | Can someone help me in setting up the xfree: when i try to choose the keyboard optins in (xf86cfg -textmode) i got the following:XKB Rules file not found Keyboard XKB options will be set to defaults |
| 16:55.45 | ixi-deb04 | Common networking question. If I have 2 different NICs attached to different parts of same network should I use same IPs for interfaces or different? |
| 16:55.45 | greycat | nonix4: then you'll be trying to route 192.168.1.* packets to your T-1/Cablemodem/DSL :) |
| 16:55.46 | nonix4 | s/?/:-\// |
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| 16:56.19 | xuxa | Is it me or is Japanese support in Debian really painful. |
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| 16:56.22 | InKubus | What modules do I need to enable on a 2.4 kernel for h323 support? My friend can see my video/sound but I can't see his through iptables natting. |
| 16:56.23 | nonix4 | greycat: most likely - in this case 10.* but anyway :-) |
| 16:56.40 | xuxa | Has anyonehere been successful in getting a Japanese environment set up in Debian? |
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| 16:56.47 | Strider22 | I want to generate a file list with all files on hard drive but prefixed with full directory eg /etc/hosts ls -R doesn't do it. |
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| 16:57.03 | FarrisGee | ixi: that really depends on what you mean by "different parts of the same network" |
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| 16:57.19 | aycaramba | Strider22, go / and run find . -name > list |
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| 16:57.39 | nonix4 | greycat: yes, the chances of attackers getting anything routed there are rather minimal given any relatively sane network structure... |
| 16:57.54 | greycat | nonix4: I just love pregnant ellipses :) |
| 16:58.21 | FarrisG | greycat: Actually, I'm allergic to them |
| 16:58.22 | ixi-deb04 | FarrisGee: actually first (eth0) is the real network 192.168.7.0/24 and the another is virtual (vmnet1) with same settings. |
| 16:58.48 | aycaramba | Strider22, without "-name" |
| 16:58.58 | nonix4 | greycat: now if there was a trusted nfs network or something like that then there might be some real exposure but still, using routable IPs for known-vulnerable services makes no sense |
| 16:59.03 | wl | Guerin: finished? |
| 16:59.04 | FarrisG | ixi: couldn't you do that with one NIC and an alias? |
| 16:59.06 | greycat | nonix4: then again, in certain other operating systems, the interfaces aren't necessarily consecutively named. The first might be xl0, and the second fxp0, and so on. So it wouldn't break *as* badly. |
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| 16:59.54 | greycat | nonix4: but on the gripping hand, my openbsd box has two of the same brand of NIC in it, so they *are* consecutive after all... |
| 16:59.58 | nonix4 | greycat: well don't know which one burnt, either fxp0 or fxp1; going to take a look in an hour |
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| 17:00.15 | asperon | anybody wanna help me out with gkrellmd? |
| 17:00.16 | nonix4 | (=> same scenario here) |
| 17:00.21 | Strider22 | aycaramba: find . -name '*' works great --- thanks |
| 17:00.27 | ixi-deb04 | FarrisG: no, I dont think so since vmnet1 is a special device from VMWare |
| 17:00.38 | aycaramba | Strider22, u're welcome |
| 17:00.40 | greycat | Strider22: isn't that equivalent to "find ."? |
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| 17:00.56 | nonix4 | greycat: but as it does nothing besides routing, chances of security holes are practically zero :-) |
| 17:01.00 | ixi-deb04 | FarrisG: if I understand what you told me... |
| 17:01.02 | aycaramba | greycat, yes |
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| 17:01.31 | caphuso | greycat: no, it won't find dot files in . |
| 17:02.14 | daten | hi, i am a newbie and installed woody (2.2.20-idepci kernel). i'd like upgrading to 2.4.18 via apt-get and a kernel-image but this is an initrd kernel and i think initrd is not suited for me (since i believe it is for install or bootcd etc only?!)... am i forced compiling a kernel by my own? :-) |
| 17:02.14 | nonix4 | greycat: gonna put a vortex in that 'puter as a replacement, happen to remember which device that will become? |
| 17:02.16 | greycat | caphuso: or in any other directory. |
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| 17:03.49 | leuven_ | BWhen i trying to apt-get install kbd the next message appears: Looking for keymap to install :NONE |
| 17:03.49 | greycat | nonix4: vortex = 3com 9xx right? I believe that's xl. |
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| 17:03.56 | caphuso | greycat: kinda. it will still find files in dot directories |
| 17:03.56 | nonix4 | 'k :-) |
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| 17:03.56 | greycat | caphuso: but not dot-files in dot-directories... |
| 17:03.56 | daten | again after netsplit: hi, i am a newbie and installed woody (2.2.20-idepci kernel). i'd like upgrading to 2.4.18 via apt-get and a kernel-image but this is an initrd kernel and i think initrd is not suited for me (since i believe it is for install or bootcd etc only?!)... am i forced compiling a kernel by my own? :-) |
| 17:03.59 | greycat | daten: yes |
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| 17:04.05 | wuming | my font in gnome2.2 looks broken, what font i need to install? |
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| 17:04.08 | greycat | daten: /msg dpkg kp |
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| 17:04.24 | leuven_ | BWhen i trying to apt-get install kbd the next message appears: Looking for keymap to install :NONE PLeas Someone help me! :( |
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| 17:04.49 | biande | how do i skip upgrading a package ? |
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| 17:04.49 | caphuso | biande: /msg dpkg hold |
| 17:04.49 | greycat | biande: /msg dpkg hold |
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| 17:04.49 | asg | biande: /msg dpkg hold |
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| 17:04.54 | biande | hold what ? |
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| 17:05.10 | biande | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:05.14 | asg | biande: msg the bot, read the factoid, all will be explained and then some |
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| 17:05.14 | wuming | what font i need to install after install gnome2,2 backport |
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| 17:05.21 | sliipy | gah, i'm getting nuts in this |
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| 17:05.30 | sussudio | !spank the bad server |
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| 17:05.45 | nonix4 | hmm... anyone happen to want *old* network cards btw? (3c50[135], etc) |
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| 17:06.09 | asg | nonix4: thanks for the offer but I've got a ton of eepro100's lying around ;) |
| 17:06.39 | ixi-deb04 | If I have a machine connected to several networks using different network adapters (1st - to 192.168.0.2-10, 2nd to 192.168.0.11-20 and etc) should I configure interfaces on the machine to have same IP address (192.168.0.1) or I have to use different IP for each network? |
| 17:06.45 | leuven_ | BWhen i trying to apt-get install kbd the next message appears: Looking for keymap to install :NONE PLeas Someone help me! :( |
| 17:06.48 | tempo | how do i resolve 'could not get lock /var/cache/apt/achives/lock - open (11 resource temp. unavil) - how do i fix this? |
| 17:06.52 | nonix4 | asg: eepro100's are not funny 'nuff, those heavy-weight oldtimers fly better :-) |
| 17:06.59 | greycat | ixi-deb04: 192.168.0.2-10 is not a valid CIDR network |
| 17:07.15 | asg | nonix4: hah |
| 17:07.19 | greycat | ixi-deb04: you can have .0.1-7 though, or .0.1-15 |
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| 17:07.31 | tempo | second question - i am getting this annoying error when trying to use my machine as a machine that is doing masq'ing - Packet log: input DENY eht1 PROTO=17 my.wan.ip.address:137 another.wan.ip.address:137 L=78 S=0x00 I=7743 F=0x000 T=128 - how do i make it stop promting me? |
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| 17:08.01 | ixi-deb04 | greycat: ok, I just used it to explain what I mean - I'm not going to use this notation :) |
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| 17:08.16 | greycat | ixi-deb04: it's not the NOTATION that's the problem. It's the NUMBERS you used. |
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| 17:08.22 | biande | is dselect better to use or easer ? |
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| 17:08.32 | Guerin | biande: neither |
| 17:08.37 | greycat | biande: only you can decide what's easier for you |
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| 17:08.55 | teleyinex | hi |
| 17:08.57 | ixi-deb04 | greycat: ok, but did you understand what I mean? One IP or different> |
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| 17:09.19 | greycat | ixi-deb04: you need a different IP on each network |
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| 17:09.44 | teleyinex | how can i know which keymap im using? |
| 17:09.50 | leuven_ | helpme |
| 17:09.51 | leuven_ | helpme |
| 17:09.52 | biande | its just dumb shiat ive isntaled the latest pakage from the vendors site so why is apt-get trying to reinstal it ? |
| 17:09.56 | sliipy | have anyone here gotten postfix+sasl2 to work? :/ |
| 17:09.57 | nonix4 | asg: really, a full-length isa card like 3com etherlink plus (3c505) flies quite far :-) |
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| 17:10.02 | leuven_ | When i trying to apt-get install kbd the next message appears: Looking for keymap to install :NONE PLeas Someone help me! :( |
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| 17:10.10 | ixi-deb04 | greycat: thank you teacher :) |
| 17:10.14 | asg | nonix4: don't make me get my VLB card out |
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| 17:10.58 | greycat | !start an old hardware war |
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| 17:10.59 | dpkg | You kids have it EASY! When I was your age I had to write word processors on an Atari 400! |
| 17:11.46 | sloopym | greycat: yeah? so did i so i dont want to hear it ;'P |
| 17:11.56 | asg | nonix4: my ex-fiancee absconded with mine years ago :) |
| 17:12.15 | asg | nonix4: small price to pay imho. |
| 17:12.32 | sloopym | asg: isnt that a good thing? |
| 17:12.54 | asg | sloopym: hence the small price to pay postscript ;) |
| 17:12.58 | nonix4 | but... time to go fix that router box, bbl tomorrow... |
| 17:13.09 | sloopym | asg: yeah i typed and then saw ;') |
| 17:13.18 | asg | sloopym: hehe |
| 17:13.24 | _sbk_ | punch cards, you young whippersnappers! |
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| 17:16.10 | Guerin | ok, so I'm not really old skool |
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| 17:16.29 | pablo | how do i checka ext3 partition? |
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| 17:16.39 | pablo | check and correct i mean |
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| 17:16.47 | pablo | anybody knows? |
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| 17:16.53 | asg | pablo: man fsck |
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| 17:17.54 | ixi-deb04 | greycat: back to my past question about minimal set of utilities needed to run networking. It was not my 'fault' and I had all needed programs actually. The netorking was down because of a strange (for me) problem with initialization NIC driver which was solved by 'disconnecting' driver code from my kernel into a module. After it everything started working. Don't beat me much next time please :) |
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| 17:18.16 | Guerin | gah, don't you hate it when someone you really respect recommends some music, then you listen to it, and it's complete shit? |
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| 17:18.37 | Guerin | I know, offtopic, it's late here and I must vent. |
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| 17:18.45 | pablo | man fsck doesnt talk about repairing ext3 partition :( |
| 17:18.46 | asg | Guerin: Mel Torme should have been your first clue |
| 17:19.04 | Guerin | asg: gwaan, gimme a little credit :) |
| 17:19.07 | asg | pablo: fsck.ext3 then |
| 17:19.10 | asg | Guerin: hah :) |
| 17:19.27 | moshii | pablo, man -k ext |
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| 17:20.55 | tempo | how do i fix this input prompt from appearing? - Packet log: input DENY eht1 PROTO=17 my.wan.ip.address:137 another.wan.ip.address:137 L=78 S=0x00 I=7743 F=0x000 T=128? |
| 17:21.13 | asg | tempo: where is it appearing? |
| 17:21.17 | _sbk_ | is the person who had the grub problem [grub repeating over screen] still here? |
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| 17:22.30 | tempo | asa - these msgs - acket log: input DENY eht1 PROTO=17 my.wan.ip.address:137 another.wan.ip.address:137 L=78 S=0x00 I=7743 F=0x000 T=128 |
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| 17:22.41 | tempo | Packet |
| 17:22.58 | asg | tempo: are they appearing in logs (and you don't want them to) or on your console (and you don't want them to) ? |
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| 17:23.24 | tempo | asg, they keep prompting in my console |
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| 17:23.29 | asg | tempo: /msg dpkg klogd |
| 17:23.36 | Ung | quick question my Debian box isn't connecting to my dns server properly how do I fix this? |
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| 17:23.54 | asg | Ung: check /etc/resolv.conf and make sure it's correct. |
| 17:23.55 | tempo | asg, i already msg'd and started /etc/init.d/klog |
| 17:24.11 | asg | tempo: and you fixed the KLOGD="" to use the correct -c option? |
| 17:24.13 | tempo | asg, that did not have any effect on it |
| 17:24.14 | thomas_adam | <-- coffee. |
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| 17:24.28 | Ung | asg yes its correct |
| 17:24.39 | l^rchkrn | Zowik! |
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| 17:24.47 | asg | tempo: then see if -c 1 works |
| 17:24.51 | thomas_adam | asg: simonrvn: http://www.nicecupofteaandasitdown.com/ |
| 17:24.59 | sussudio | !britsnack |
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| 17:25.03 | tempo | asg, how do i add the c -2 var. to klogd? |
| 17:25.05 | asg | Ung: apt-get install dnsutils (use dig to probe) |
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| 17:25.30 | asg | tempo: like the factoid said, edit /etc/init.d/klogd and put KLOGD="-c 1" in place of KLOGD="" |
| 17:25.38 | sussudio | hmm new series of "Dead Ringers" tonight on BBC2 |
| 17:25.45 | thomas_adam | sussudio: hahahaha |
| 17:25.45 | asg | Ung: also, make sure you can ping its IP address. |
| 17:25.50 | tempo | asg, ok. will do |
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| 17:25.52 | tempo | asg, thx |
| 17:26.13 | ricky_clarkson | thomas_adam: All these bluddy forenners watching our TV. |
| 17:26.25 | thomas_adam | ricky_clarkson: That's just the Northerners. |
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| 17:26.33 | asg | thomas_adam: the scones look particularly tasty. |
| 17:26.36 | ricky_clarkson | Hey, shut it you. |
| 17:26.39 | Ung | asg I can ping machien router and dns machien |
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| 17:26.42 | thomas_adam | ricky_clarkson: :p |
| 17:26.43 | ricky_clarkson | !yorkshiresmite asg |
| 17:26.44 | thomas_adam | asg: indeed. |
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| 17:26.51 | Ung | dig tells me no servers could be reached |
| 17:27.01 | dondelelcaro | what, still miffed over your tele tax? |
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| 17:27.06 | asg | Ung: make sure you don't have firewalls blocking udp 53 and (possibly tcp 53) |
| 17:27.29 | Ung | no those are completely open |
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| 17:27.51 | Ung | its one internal IP to anotehr |
| 17:28.05 | Strider22 | I hit ^Z in vi and it's gone to the background... how do I go back in? |
| 17:28.08 | asg | dondelelcaro: just like cable |
| 17:28.10 | asg | Strider22: fg |
| 17:28.10 | thomas_adam | dondelelcaro: teletext? |
| 17:28.11 | idnarhtim | Strider22: fg |
| 17:28.18 | asg | thomas_adam: television tax |
| 17:28.18 | Ung | hmm whats up with the television tax in England |
| 17:28.30 | thomas_adam | asg: Is that similar to the "Tv License"? |
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| 17:28.39 | dondelelcaro | thomas_adam: rrr, yeah, that's what I meant. |
| 17:28.43 | asg | thomas_adam: yes, that's what he was on about. |
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| 17:28.47 | thomas_adam | Oh. |
| 17:28.49 | tempo | asg, thank you very much. it works now. |
| 17:28.54 | ricky_clarkson | Ung: it pays for the BBC. |
| 17:28.55 | tempo | :) |
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| 17:29.00 | asg | Ung: is the dns server running on the dns machine? netstat -plunt |
| 17:29.07 | asg | tempo: you're welcome |
| 17:29.08 | thomas_adam | dondelelcaro: Sorry, your wording was a bit odd, clashed with my own warped understanding. |
| 17:29.10 | Ung | asg its one internal machien hitting another internal machine |
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| 17:29.31 | Ung | asg no firewall or ACL blocking |
| 17:29.43 | asg | Ung: right but the other internal machine running DNS should actually be running bind or djbdns or some such. Make sure the DNS daemon is actually running. |
| 17:29.46 | ricky_clarkson | dondelelcaro: Without a TV licence we're not legally allowed to watch *any* TV, even though it's only the BBC that receives TV licence money. |
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| 17:29.52 | asg | thomas_adam: not even at the pub? |
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| 17:30.07 | thomas_adam | !pub |
| 17:30.11 | Ung | asg the other internal machien is windows and DNS is functioning |
| 17:30.13 | dondelelcaro | ricky_clarkson: hrm... but there are multiple classes of TV Licenses, right? [at least, I seem to remember that being the case...] |
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| 17:30.32 | sussudio | thomas_adam: never seen Dead Ringers? |
| 17:30.45 | thomas_adam | sussudio: Only on he radio, never on the TV. |
| 17:30.46 | pablo | can i repari a swap partition whit a tool like fcsk? |
| 17:30.52 | sussudio | thomas_adam: it's teh funneh. |
| 17:30.57 | thomas_adam | pablo: man mkswap |
| 17:30.57 | ricky_clarkson | dondelelcaro: Er, black and white licence and colour licence. |
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| 17:31.25 | ricky_clarkson | I think the black and white licence is due to disappear soon. |
| 17:31.25 | asg | Ung: and 'dig @ip.of.windows.dns.server something.tld' doesn't work? |
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| 17:31.44 | asg | dondelelcaro: a good purpose, you see the GP yesterday? |
| 17:31.53 | dondelelcaro | asg: yeah... |
| 17:31.58 | paquin | ehi, what happens to calvino.freenode.net? Is it lost? |
| 17:32.00 | ricky_clarkson | Ok, I'm in single user mode, I'm doing cp -R /usr/* /other, where /other is /dev/hda5 |
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| 17:32.22 | asg | dondelelcaro: rather anti-climactic after the build-up talk with BAR but still not too bad. |
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| 17:32.26 | Tyimers | Can anyone suggest something like Ensim (hosting software) that runs under Debian? |
| 17:32.33 | ricky_clarkson | Can I just change /dev/hda5 to be /usr in /etc/fstab then, reboot and watch it all work? |
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| 17:33.14 | Ung | asg nope doesn't appear to be working |
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| 17:33.47 | lamp | can I have a hardware conflict in linux when It works fine in windows |
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| 17:34.12 | asg | Ung: one final test (apt-get install nmap ; nmap -sU -p53 ip.of.windows.dns.server) |
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| 17:34.21 | l^rchkrn | lamp: What hardware conflicts? |
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| 17:34.36 | lamp | Soundcard and Wetwork |
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| 17:34.39 | lamp | network |
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| 17:34.46 | l^rchkrn | lamp: IRQ9? |
| 17:34.58 | lamp | I Don't now |
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| 17:35.06 | l^rchkrn | :-\ |
| 17:35.07 | caphuso | if you ever happen to have lilo stuck in D state because it tried to access a broken hard disk, don't just reboot :-/ |
| 17:35.18 | dondelelcaro | asg: yeah, the qualifying sort of put button out... but sato did a pretty good job... I was just impressed with what rubens did, though... |
| 17:35.25 | jj110888 | hey, there anyway i can apt-get libstdc++6? im tring to remaster a knoppix disc, novel client for linux seems to need this package, but both libstdc++6 and -dev complains that theres dependances that are unmet |
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| 17:35.28 | Ung | asg I wish I could but it can't resolve ftp.us.debian.org |
| 17:35.30 | dondelelcaro | asg: qualifying 5th with however much extra fuel that he had was pretty impressive... |
| 17:35.40 | asg | dondelelcaro: yeah, Rubens is great. |
| 17:35.44 | d0ugie | is their an fdisk frontend |
| 17:35.48 | asg | dondelelcaro: and a good effort. |
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| 17:35.55 | jj110888 | d0ugie, cfdisk? |
| 17:35.57 | amphi | d0ugie: cfdisk |
| 17:35.59 | d0ugie | thanks |
| 17:36.18 | Ung | ok I am restarting the DNS server completely that might work |
| 17:36.33 | caphuso | cfdisk isn't a fdisk frontend |
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| 17:36.35 | dondelelcaro | asg: was surprised too that williams has been doing so poorly... the brake fire on montoya was rather unusual... |
| 17:36.40 | asg | Ung: well, it doesn't have any depends so you could use the ip to ftp.us.debian.org (128.101.80.131) and grab the deb from the pool. |
| 17:36.48 | caphuso | it might be usable if it were |
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| 17:36.56 | asg | dondelelcaro: yeah, they still have some kinks to work out with that card design though. |
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| 17:37.05 | asg | s/card/car/ |
| 17:37.07 | h2k | where does amsn (tcl/tk) get keyboard conf? |
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| 17:37.30 | dondelelcaro | asg: yeah. *shrug* |
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| 17:37.44 | asg | dondelelcaro: I'm still miffed that Raikkonen is doing so poorly |
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| 17:37.51 | Vudumen | hi |
| 17:37.55 | Vudumen | did anyone use flow-tools and cuflow to store and retrieve netflow statistics? |
| 17:37.57 | jj110888 | h2k, you mean like, what country keyboard? (like engish one, japenes one, etc) ? |
| 17:37.58 | l^rchkrn | Vudumen: Csá |
| 17:38.07 | dondelelcaro | asg: yeah. Isn't this the first race that he's finished? |
| 17:38.09 | d0ugie | what's the swap partition usually listed as in /dev? df shows only two, neither of which is the swap |
| 17:38.11 | asg | dondelelcaro: yep |
| 17:38.13 | Vudumen | hi l^rchkrn |
| 17:38.18 | h2k | jj110888, jeah, kind of, it won't type some characters |
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| 17:38.21 | caphuso | d0ugie: uhm |
| 17:38.23 | jj110888 | d0ugie, `mount` shows swap |
| 17:38.24 | asg | dondelelcaro: no, he did score one point in a previous one |
| 17:38.31 | d0ugie | nice thanks |
| 17:38.36 | caphuso | d0ugie: you did the partitioning, not us |
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| 17:38.41 | dondelelcaro | asg: ah, ok... I knew that he blew up three times in a row, though... |
| 17:38.44 | jj110888 | h2k, i guess the LANG variable |
| 17:38.52 | asg | dondelelcaro: yeah, I think he finished in Imola |
| 17:38.53 | h2k | where can i set it? |
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| 17:39.25 | asg | dondelelcaro: I'd check at f1.com but that sight is so incredibly horrible to navigate. |
| 17:39.30 | asg | s/sight/site/ |
| 17:39.32 | Tyimers | Can anyone suggest something like Ensim (hosting software) that runs under Debian? |
| 17:39.55 | jj110888 | h2k, sry, its the LANGUAGE variable, LANG is a programing language i think |
| 17:40.11 | dondelelcaro | asg: yeah, speaking of F1, they showed the 1994 spanish grand prix here... If you didn't realize how good of a driver Michael is, that was a prime example... 40 laps (and finishing 2nd!) with only 5th gear... |
| 17:40.26 | h2k | anyway, where can i set LANGUAGE variable? |
| 17:40.38 | dondelelcaro | h2k: anywhere. You probably want LANG=""; |
| 17:40.42 | asg | dondelelcaro: yeah, they showed it on Saturday night at like 2am so I missed it; He is incredible though, no doubt about it. |
| 17:41.02 | h2k | so it's amsn's fault, not my deb conf? |
| 17:41.19 | dondelelcaro | h2k: well, if you see it in env, yes. |
| 17:41.47 | zezom | I'm trying to rmove all output from an app tht I'm running but the line I have makes a file called 2 with the output in it... the line is aplay /w/audio/Chirp.wav &>2 |
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| 17:42.10 | caphuso | zezom: > /dev/null 2>&1 |
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| 17:42.22 | zezom | caphuso, ah that's it thanks :) |
| 17:43.03 | aigarius | Tyimers, your questions scared me quite a bit for a moment: Emsim is our Prime Minister and I just sent him a letter in the name of Latvian Open Source Association about software patents, and the I see someone saying something about him on #debian :))))) |
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| 17:43.19 | Tyimers | aigarius lol |
| 17:43.19 | dondelelcaro | h2k: LANG="yada yada yada" along with LC_* is what configures your locale. Those are all environmental variables, which you set in .bashrc_profile or similar. |
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| 17:43.42 | h2k | ok, i'll try to find it |
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| 17:43.47 | greycat | dondelelcaro: .bashrc or .bash_profile |
| 17:44.00 | dondelelcaro | greycat: yeah... |
| 17:44.45 | greycat | the third being /etc/environment :) |
| 17:45.01 | dondelelcaro | greycat: or /etc/profile... |
| 17:45.32 | greycat | /etc/environment would be so much better if it could expand $VARIABLES in variable definitions |
| 17:45.50 | h2k | hm, in /etc/environment it seems to be OK |
| 17:45.58 | dondelelcaro | greycat: heh. too many things parse that sumbitch, though... |
| 17:46.12 | h2k | it is set to et_EE.ISOblablabla |
| 17:46.13 | eruin | anyone know why gedit drops a copy of files you edit, only with "~" appended? |
| 17:46.25 | daesotho | eruin: autosave |
| 17:46.27 | LSorense | eruin: it makes backups by default? |
| 17:46.27 | dondelelcaro | eruin: it's a backup... [emacs does it too] |
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| 17:47.00 | eruin | oh, I was thinking bug.. thanks, I guess I can disable the thing somewhere ;) |
| 17:47.00 | daesotho | eruin: just add a rule to 'make clean' like 'rm -f ~*' or some shit |
| 17:47.12 | greycat | *~ |
| 17:47.15 | daesotho | trust me, you don't want to disable it |
| 17:47.22 | daesotho | greycat: right |
| 17:47.27 | dondelelcaro | better to find -type f -iname '*~'|xargs rm -f |
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| 17:47.42 | dondelelcaro | (well, with . and -print0 and -0 in appropriate places) |
| 17:47.50 | caphuso | dondelelcaro: what's the upper case version of ~? :) |
| 17:48.10 | daesotho | how about find . -print | grep ~ | xargs rm -f |
| 17:48.13 | eruin | why don't I want to disable it? in order to protect myself from my own stupidity? ;) |
| 17:48.14 | dondelelcaro | caphuso: details, details... -name if you care... |
| 17:48.26 | caphuso | daesotho: no, listen to dondelelcaro |
| 17:48.29 | dondelelcaro | daesotho: that matches super~important~file |
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| 17:48.42 | daesotho | ok |
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| 17:49.31 | Ung | asg well My windows DNS server froze and wouldn't restart thanks for your help |
| 17:49.32 | daesotho | how about find . -print | grep '~\>' | xargs rm -f |
| 17:49.45 | asg | Ung: you're welcome |
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| 17:49.50 | caphuso | daesotho: matches very~\ important~\ file |
| 17:49.55 | daesotho | hm |
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| 17:50.08 | caphuso | actually no, since \> needs grep -E, IIRC |
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| 17:50.30 | caphuso | daesotho: you really want nothing else than "find -name '*~' -print0 | xargs -0 rm -f |
| 17:50.34 | caphuso | " |
| 17:50.44 | daesotho | i think i used \> without grep -e |
| 17:50.46 | caphuso | well, possibly rm -rf |
| 17:50.54 | daesotho | caphuse: im trying to maximize the number of pipes |
| 17:50.56 | eruin | rm -rf / ? |
| 17:51.04 | daesotho | rm -rf deletes directories |
| 17:51.08 | daesotho | these are only files |
| 17:51.11 | eruin | deltree c:/ /y reinvented |
| 17:51.28 | asg | eruin: rm predates deltree by a number of years |
| 17:51.33 | caphuso | daesotho: yes, and also the number of really stupid mistakes you're going to suffer from |
| 17:51.38 | daesotho | eruin: msdos sucks |
| 17:51.45 | slidnet | arf whats the device to use for usbdrive mounting please ? |
| 17:51.46 | daesotho | caphuso: zing |
| 17:52.14 | eruin | yeh, my history is dos->win3->linux->winxp->linux though ;) |
| 17:52.28 | caphuso | daesotho: how are you going to handle files with newline characters in their name? pretend that they don't exist? |
| 17:52.44 | daesotho | newlines in their name?? |
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| 17:52.55 | daesotho | yeah, it can happen, i suppse... |
| 17:53.03 | dondelelcaro | daesotho: like touch '^M' |
| 17:53.06 | daesotho | i got it |
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| 17:53.50 | daesotho | find . -print | grep -E '[~]*~\>' | xargs rm -f |
| 17:53.57 | daesotho | **** |
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| 17:54.01 | daesotho | find . -print | grep -E '[^~]*~\>' | xargs rm -f |
| 17:54.07 | daesotho | hehehe |
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| 17:54.35 | daesotho | hm, that doesn't match worthless~backup~file~ |
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| 17:55.28 | daesotho | because its too simple |
| 17:55.36 | daesotho | why use globbing on filenames? |
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| 17:55.48 | asg | !punish education bureaucracy |
| 17:55.50 | dondelelcaro | daesotho: it's not really a glob. |
| 17:55.51 | chitiri_ | !info gcc |
| 17:55.56 | dpkg | gcc: (The GNU C compiler), section devel, is standard. Version: 4:3.3.3-3 (sid), Packaged size: 4 kB, Installed size: 28 kB |
| 17:55.57 | Pold-zZzZ | Good afternoon |
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| 17:56.11 | h2k | i installed localeconf, made my choices, but amsn still won't type my characters |
| 17:56.19 | greycat | h2k: did you logout and back in? |
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| 17:56.26 | h2k | no |
| 17:56.29 | h2k | ok |
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| 17:56.32 | daesotho | gcc is not 28k |
| 17:56.39 | greycat | !depends gcc sid |
| 17:56.42 | dpkg | gcc: depends on cpp (>= 4:3.3.3-3), gcc-3.3 (>= 1:3.3.3-1), cpp-3.3 (>= 1:3.3.3-1) |
| 17:56.46 | greycat | !info gcc-3.3 sid |
| 17:56.49 | dpkg | gcc-3.3: (The GNU C compiler), section devel, is standard. Version: 1:3.3.3-7 (sid), Packaged size: 1519 kB, Installed size: 4124 kB |
| 17:56.50 | daesotho | ok |
| 17:56.58 | chitiri_ | !info samba |
| 17:57.04 | dpkg | samba: (a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix), section net, is optional. Version: 3.0.2a-1 (sid), Packaged size: 2240 kB, Installed size: 5756 kB |
| 17:57.08 | asg | chitiri_: you can also /msg bot info factoid |
| 17:57.19 | greycat | s/factoid/package/ |
| 17:57.28 | asg | greycat: erm...yeah thanks |
| 17:57.29 | chitiri_ | asg: ok |
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| 17:58.34 | trueno | Are the "news" function of apt and dpkg disabled/unmaintained? |
| 17:58.50 | greycat | nobody's tried to use them for months AFAIK |
| 17:58.52 | asg | trueno: they haven't been in use for a number of months |
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| 18:00.05 | tuxi-laptop | tetrinet on aoskar.kilobug.org |
| 18:00.06 | trueno | asg -- Good to know... I was already wondering if it was just a matter of bad luck/no new news... Have those functions moved somewhere else? |
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| 18:00.58 | greycat | trueno: the /topic realistically |
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| 18:01.29 | trueno | greycat -- Thanks :-) |
| 18:01.55 | plusran | hi there, i'm trying to use "make gconfig" with the 2.6.6 kernel, but i get the message that i need "You need gtk+-2.0, glib-2.0 and libglade-2.0." what packages should i tell aptitude to install? |
| 18:02.08 | Strider22 | I'm trying to create a filename in a bash script and it don't work. Any pointers? |
| 18:02.09 | Strider22 | using http://www.faqs.org/docs/abs/HTML/timedate.html#DATEREF example 12-7 |
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| 18:02.20 | BlindMan | hi |
| 18:02.32 | fyn | My USB mouse doesn't come back after the Debian suspends, plugging it into a different port doesn't wake it up .. not even plugging it into another box. Yet reboot and it works fine. Any ideas on what kind of poking it needs to wake up or why this is happeneing? |
| 18:02.44 | greycat | plusran: libgtk2.0-dev |
| 18:03.14 | plusran | rock on greycat, thank you. |
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| 18:03.37 | BlindMan | does stock woody suffice for 2.6.x kernels? or do I need some packages upgraded? |
| 18:03.37 | greycat | Strider22: echo hello world > /tmp/helloworld |
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| 18:03.44 | greycat | BlindMan: /msg dpkg bunk 2.6 |
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| 18:04.21 | plusran | uh, i got the same error, again. unable to find the gtk+ installation |
| 18:04.43 | caphuso | plusran: use auto-apt |
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| 18:04.53 | h2k | still no |
| 18:04.56 | h2k | still no õüäö in amsn |
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| 18:06.10 | greycat | h2k: do they work in other apps? |
| 18:06.10 | h2k | yes |
| 18:06.10 | h2k | everywhere except there |
| 18:06.10 | trueno | Strider22 -- touch filename, maybe? |
| 18:06.10 | dondelelcaro | h2k: try LANG="en_US.iso88591" amsn... if it doesn't work then, then amsn doesn't support it... |
| 18:06.10 | BlindMan | greycat: thanks, didn't find it in the topic :) |
| 18:06.12 | h2k | it does |
| 18:06.19 | h2k | it worked in suse |
| 18:06.32 | greycat | then file a bug report |
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| 18:06.50 | plusran | greycat, that package didn't solve the problem. i'll post the whole error message in #flood |
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| 18:07.23 | h2k | btw amsn .deb is old |
| 18:07.29 | greycat | !info amsn sid |
| 18:07.32 | dpkg | amsn: (An MSN messenger written in tcl), section x11, is optional. Version: 0.90-4 (sid), Packaged size: 1865 kB, Installed size: 5288 kB |
| 18:07.39 | greycat | h2k: what's the upstream version, then? |
| 18:07.40 | jj110888 | how do i deal with unmet dependances? |
| 18:07.48 | h2k | there is 0.91 |
| 18:08.00 | dondelelcaro | jj110888: you install them. |
| 18:08.11 | greycat | h2k: then you can file a wishlist bug for "new upstream version 0.91" too |
| 18:08.14 | h2k | 0.91 has pretty much upgrades |
| 18:08.21 | jj110888 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:08.21 | jj110888 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:08.22 | jvw | FieldySnuts: It's because some stupid thinko in my highlights that I notice it, but could you *please* stop that analintrude bullshit? It really annoys me. Start getting original, and some more normal way of saying stuff. |
| 18:08.32 | greycat | jj110888: playing with experimental shit? |
| 18:08.33 | jj110888 | dondelelcaro, something tells me they dont wanta be installed |
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| 18:08.43 | Strider22 | Trying to generate filename like this... |
| 18:08.43 | Strider22 | prefix=temp |
| 18:08.43 | Strider22 | suffix=`eval date +%y%m%d` |
| 18:08.43 | Strider22 | filename=$prefix.$suffix |
| 18:08.43 | Strider22 | echo ls -l > $filename |
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| 18:08.59 | dondelelcaro | Strider22: read /topic, and don't paste here. |
| 18:08.59 | greycat | Strider22: #bash |
| 18:09.02 | jj110888 | greycat, no, tring to customize this knoppix disc, so its got the unstable stuff on here? |
| 18:09.08 | greycat | jj110888: #knoppix |
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| 18:09.18 | h2k | nice :D |
| 18:09.23 | |Khaywrk| | hey all, trying to install unixodbc: using debian testing, have installed unixodbc, mdbtools, php-odbc... I get an error message in my apache error.log "/usr/lib/libmdbodbc.so.0: undefined symbol: mdb_get_option" - does anyone have any ideas? |
| 18:09.27 | h2k | they are working with LANG="en_US.iso88591" amsn |
| 18:09.35 | Strider22 | all: opps sorry |
| 18:09.45 | dondelelcaro | h2k: ok, then for whatever reason, you don't have the environmental variables set before your WM starts |
| 18:09.50 | jj110888 | greycat, it seems like a apt-get issue that i would like to know how to work around/or know why it does that |
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| 18:09.55 | greycat | Strider22: you'd be perfectly on topic in #bash |
| 18:09.59 | dondelelcaro | h2k: add them to /etc/environment and see if that clears things up |
| 18:10.05 | h2k | no |
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| 18:10.19 | greycat | jj110888: it's not an "apt-get issue". It's a Knoppix vs. Debian issue. |
| 18:10.41 | h2k | i'll change everything to en |
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| 18:11.19 | jj110888 | greycat, ..........its something that apt-get is telling me, knoppix doesn't fork apt-get (that i know of), and im simply wondering if anyone in here knows what it means or what i can do about it. ive already asked in #knoppix |
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| 18:11.48 | dondelelcaro | jj110888: it means that you can't get gcc+-3.4 of the version required because it isn't listed in a Packages file that you have. |
| 18:11.49 | greycat | jj110888: purge your gcc and related packages. They're colliding. |
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| 18:12.06 | dondelelcaro | jj110888: you get to figure out why they're colliding. |
| 18:12.09 | greycat | jj110888: you're trying to mix TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT DISTROS. That doesn't work. |
| 18:12.39 | jj110888 | greycat, i use gentoo, purging gcc really sounds scary no matter what distro, lol |
| 18:13.12 | asg | jj110888: the package managment system doesn't require gcc so it isn't a problem. |
| 18:13.28 | jj110888 | dondelelcaro, ok, so is there anyway to get this libstdc++6 without getting gcc3.4? i need it for novel for linux, its not any exotic program or anything |
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| 18:13.52 | Basic | Is there a way to have a different /etc/modules for 2.6 and 2.4 kernels? Example, I have drivers I need loaded for 2.4 kernels, but don't need them for 2.6 kernels. |
| 18:13.56 | greycat | jj110888: why can't you accept 'getting gcc3.4'? Out of hard drive space? |
| 18:14.00 | jj110888 | asg, i know |
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| 18:14.36 | jj110888 | greycat, it says E:Broken Packages |
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| 18:14.43 | asg | Basic: create two files, create an init.d script that makes the right one /etc/modules before the one that works with /etc/modules. |
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| 18:15.05 | dondelelcaro | jj110888: no, because libstdc++6-dev requires it. I have no clue why you're installing the -dev package though. |
| 18:15.17 | Basic | asg: ie, there isn't anything built into debian at this time to do it :-) |
| 18:15.31 | greycat | jj110888: then go bitch at #knoppix for having broken packages. |
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| 18:15.42 | greycat | jj110888: yours is not a Debian problem, because that package DOES NOT EXIST in Debian. |
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| 18:16.09 | asg | Basic: not that I'm aware of (but it should be a simple hack) |
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| 18:16.15 | dondelelcaro | !info libstdc++6-dev experimental |
| 18:16.18 | jj110888 | dondelelcaro, yea, your right, the regular one is complaining of a libgcc1, i think ill just upgrade that i guess |
| 18:16.21 | dpkg | libstdc++6-dev: (The GNU Standard C++ Library v3 (development files)), section libdevel, is standard. Version: 3.4.0-1 (experimental), Packaged size: 7887 kB, Installed size: 41708 kB |
| 18:16.36 | dondelelcaro | !depends libstdc++6-dev experimental |
| 18:16.39 | dpkg | libstdc++6-dev: depends on gcc-3.4-base, libstdc++6 (>= 3.4.0-1), libc6-dev (>= 2.3.2.ds1-11), g++-3.4 (>= 3.4.0-1) |
| 18:16.50 | Basic | yep |
| 18:16.50 | greycat | as far as I'm concerned, experimental isn't part of Debian, and I won't support it |
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| 18:16.55 | sunrise | hi all |
| 18:16.56 | Basic | asg: thanks for the info |
| 18:16.59 | maxxle | Hi! How can I check if a File is accessed by the kernel/by another process? I have all rights to the file but can't delete it :( |
| 18:17.00 | asg | Basic: you're welcome |
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| 18:17.05 | jj110888 | greycat, calm down, i did a `apt-get update` that i assumed did from debian servers, its not like im offending anyone here |
| 18:17.13 | asg | maxxle: lsof |
| 18:17.13 | jj110888 | maxxle, lsof <file> |
| 18:17.13 | greycat | jj110888: never assume. Check your sources. |
| 18:17.15 | petemc | i got bitten badly by experimental today :( |
| 18:17.21 | dondelelcaro | greycat: it is, but if someone needs support for it, they shouldn't be using it... |
| 18:17.24 | asg | !comfort petemc |
| 18:17.25 | dpkg | There, there, petemc. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 18:17.26 | sunrise | where to get the debian-installer sources for Woody/PowerPC ? I've to check how the machine type is identified by the installer... |
| 18:17.32 | petemc | asg: cheers :) |
| 18:17.37 | asg | petemc: anytime :) |
| 18:17.38 | dondelelcaro | sunrise: it's in the boot floppies package. |
| 18:17.38 | greycat | sunrise: #debian-boot |
| 18:17.40 | jj110888 | greycat, stuff like ftp2.de.debian.org ? |
| 18:17.48 | petemc | i did fix it, but gnome 2.6 seems kinda borked |
| 18:17.48 | dondelelcaro | sunrise: although, you probably are more interested in d-i rather than bf. |
| 18:17.54 | greycat | sunrise: but "debian-installer" is not for woody. It's for sarge. |
| 18:18.04 | greycat | jj110888: does it say "experimental"? |
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| 18:18.18 | sunrise | greycat: ok, how to call the installtion routine for Woody (not debian-installer) ? |
| 18:18.27 | greycat | sunrise: bootfloppies |
| 18:18.29 | maxxle | asg: Thx. I will try this. |
| 18:18.47 | jj110888 | greycat, dont no, but theres unstable in it, im just looking at the output of apt-get update |
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| 18:19.46 | greycat | jj110888: at some point, you installed an experimental or knoppix or otherwise NON-Debian-sid package. It's corrupted everything. You must get rid of it. |
| 18:19.46 | PlayaX | what program do i use to create a reiserfs partition |
| 18:19.46 | dondelelcaro | PlayaX: mkreiserfs |
| 18:19.55 | PlayaX | ok thanks |
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| 18:20.28 | jj110888 | greycat, or maybe knoppix just comes with experimental packages? ive messed with low-level stuff before, i dont mind it when things break, i just could use some help finding out why |
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| 18:21.18 | greycat | knoppix comes with KNOPPIX PACKAGES. |
| 18:21.23 | greycat | they're not the same as Debian packages |
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| 18:21.43 | jj110888 | greycat, and im tring to install a debian package* |
| 18:21.43 | abrotman | wait .. i heard something about that before .. knoppix!=debian .. right? |
| 18:22.01 | greycat | abrotman: maybe if I repeat it another 700 times, this newbie will catch on...? |
| 18:22.04 | jj110888 | abrotman, knoppix is a bootable cd with kde and everything, and its based on debian |
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| 18:22.09 | gigabytes | hi all |
| 18:22.13 | abrotman | jj110888: i know what knoppix is |
| 18:22.13 | greycat | jj110888: /topic |
| 18:22.38 | jj110888 | eh |
| 18:22.48 | abrotman | if i can make debian run on my dog .. i dont know why people use knoppix |
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| 18:23.11 | greycat | abrotman: a... carbon-based dog? |
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| 18:23.18 | asg | abrotman: it has a better scrabble score? |
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| 18:23.47 | jj110888 | im only messing with it for use at school, i perfer gentoo, which might not be a good thing to say in a debian chat room....... |
| 18:23.53 | abrotman | asg: you got me there |
| 18:23.57 | abrotman | asg: but will it count |
| 18:23.59 | suidik | is there any solution to set up PCMCIA WiFi card (essid ...) at boot time in debian ? |
| 18:24.00 | abrotman | !dict knoppix |
| 18:24.02 | dpkg | could not find definition for knoppix |
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| 18:24.05 | abrotman | ha! |
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| 18:24.35 | nkuttler | suidik: plug it in? |
| 18:24.36 | ricky_clarkson | !spell knoppix |
| 18:24.37 | dpkg | I can't find alternate spellings for 'knoppix' |
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| 18:25.08 | abrotman | streuner: cause you do? |
| 18:25.09 | jj110888 | streuner, i was only inquiring about apt-get........ |
| 18:25.11 | suidik | nkuttler: I want to set up essid, nick, mode .. where can I write these parameters ? |
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| 18:25.14 | asg | streuner: we often talk about Pork Pies and HP sauce as well. |
| 18:25.18 | ricky_clarkson | streuner: The same reason we talk about Americans in the UK. |
| 18:25.29 | ricky_clarkson | !yorkshiresmite asg |
| 18:25.45 | wuming | how come no matter what i set the permission of /dev/mixer , i still get no permission to use volume control in gnome |
| 18:26.05 | ricky_clarkson | wuming: add yourself to the group audio. |
| 18:26.19 | wuming | addgroup myname sudio |
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| 18:26.21 | wuming | audip |
| 18:26.21 | abrotman | whats hp again? |
| 18:26.23 | abrotman | !hp |
| 18:26.24 | dpkg | well, hp is at http://www.hp.com/pressrel/jun99/21jun99g.htm, or *the* original brown sauce from 1889. See: http://www.higherdesign.com/brownsauce/hpsauce.htm |
| 18:26.27 | abrotman | oh yeah |
| 18:26.28 | nkuttler | suidik: try /etc/pcmcia/wireless.opts |
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| 18:27.02 | abrotman | wuming: did you try relogging in? |
| 18:27.08 | wuming | yes i did |
| 18:27.14 | lanchow | someone know <qandaset> from docbook ? |
| 18:27.41 | jvw | lanchow: what is 'knowing'? I use(d) it, yes... |
| 18:27.47 | jj110888 | anyone know how do i apt-get w/o getting deps? like a --no-deps option |
| 18:27.54 | greycat | dpkg, hp is also Hewlett Packard, maker of calculators and printers and computers and other silicon goodness |
| 18:27.55 | dpkg | greycat: okay |
| 18:28.11 | abrotman | jj110888: man apt-get (--force-help?) |
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| 18:28.21 | nkuttler | jj110888: just dl or install? |
| 18:28.21 | jj110888 | abrotman, thnx |
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| 18:28.26 | lanchow | jvw: when i use it i got a shity link Q: before the Q: and A: |
| 18:28.32 | jj110888 | nkuttler, uninstall |
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| 18:28.51 | lanchow | jvw: that i don't want of course .. |
| 18:28.54 | petemc | !jdk is also http://serios.net/content/debian/java.php |
| 18:28.54 | jvw | lanchow: 'link Q:'? I don't get you |
| 18:28.55 | dpkg | petemc: okay |
| 18:29.33 | es | what's the way in debian to search for files in packages (I want sort of equivalent of urpmf in mandrake) |
| 18:29.35 | nkuttler | jj110888: if --force-foo doesn't help you could look into equivs |
| 18:29.38 | lanchow | jvw: please look the second page of my doc: lcw.mine.nu/~lanchow/soi.html |
| 18:29.49 | keta | hi all |
| 18:29.58 | petemc | es: /msg dpkg search |
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| 18:30.23 | jvw | lanchow: connection refused |
| 18:30.31 | es | petemc: ty |
| 18:30.47 | SW-Blue|wrk | Whats the news on the copyright problem is Europe? |
| 18:30.53 | jvw | lanchow: (assuming http) |
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| 18:31.01 | SW-Blue|wrk | any feedback |
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| 18:31.12 | lanchow | jvw: yes, mm |
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| 18:31.47 | nkuttler | SW-Blue|wrk: eff europe? |
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| 18:32.04 | xukun | hi all |
| 18:32.18 | wuming | how can i check what modules are loaded |
| 18:32.23 | nkuttler | wuming: lsmod |
| 18:32.25 | lanchow | jvw: in fact i have a alink "Q: my question" to "Q: my question" and "A: my response" |
| 18:32.49 | jvw | lanchow: you mean a index to all Q's? |
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| 18:32.54 | lanchow | jvw: something like an indexes of question |
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| 18:33.02 | jvw | lanchow: anyway, this is DTD stuff |
| 18:33.10 | wuming | anyone can point me a good webpage for sound card config |
| 18:33.21 | jvw | lanchow: change the template to your own preferences, it's the default |
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| 18:33.40 | abrotman | !tell wuming about sound |
| 18:33.44 | streuner | wuming: what soundcard do you have? |
| 18:33.49 | abrotman | !tell bragonux about root |
| 18:33.59 | greycat | wuming: the FAQ, for one... |
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| 18:34.17 | lanchow | jvw: okay, where is it ? |
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| 18:34.21 | wuming | struner:build in via sound max |
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| 18:34.44 | jvw | lanchow: What do you mean? 'it'? Be more specific. |
| 18:35.08 | streuner | wuming: sounds like a job for ALSA, but can you give us more details about the soundcard. |
| 18:35.09 | lanchow | jvw: i don't know where to change it |
| 18:35.19 | lanchow | jvw: where is the template |
| 18:35.33 | greycat | wuming: if it's got "VIA" and "AC97" in it, then OSS should handle it with the via82cxxx_audio module, but it'll be somewhat crappy. |
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| 18:36.23 | jvw | lanchow: if you write XML, you need your own template if you don't want to go with the default... Try google |
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| 18:36.39 | wuming | greycat,yep..got via and ac97 in it |
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| 18:37.09 | lanchow | jvw: okay i will find, thanks for your help. |
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| 18:38.53 | jredburn | Is there a good lvm troubleshooter? I am getting: "LV Status: NOT Available" and am trying to determine why |
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| 18:39.14 | jj110888 | jredburn, are you broadcasting messages in both #gentoo and #debian? |
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| 18:39.27 | lathm | I'm trying to install Debian Testing..I have an IBM Thinkpad w/Intel Gigabit Ethernet NIC (e1000). I have specified IP address manually and am getting network connectivity but after first phase of install it asks me to reboot (without the CD) and then when it tries to pull down packages via APT from Internet it says I am not connected to Internet (and alas I am unpingable after the reboot). Also, for some reason the installer isn't reading my binary package |
| 18:39.29 | wuming | looks like my sound card use ad1980 or ad198x chip set |
| 18:39.44 | jredburn | jj: i am looking for help and thought maybe someone in both channels could help me |
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| 18:40.32 | jj110888 | jredburn, ok |
| 18:40.32 | ricky_clarkson | !plz |
| 18:40.33 | dpkg | rumour has it, plz is german abbreviation for 'Postleitzahl' (zip-code). this aint a warez channel L33t-speak for "please", or don't type it |
| 18:40.38 | nkuttler | lathm: what installer? woody? |
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| 18:40.46 | lathm | Sarge |
| 18:40.57 | lathm | (nkuttler) |
| 18:41.20 | nkuttler | lathm: can't you bring up the network manually? |
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| 18:41.53 | lathm | nkuttler: yes, i can but during the 2nd phase of install it doesn't reconnect me. |
| 18:42.03 | petemc | lathm: have you checked the module for your card is loaded after ythe reboot and the interface configured? |
| 18:42.30 | stew | when i try to do echo "#!/bin/sh" > /tmp/foo i get bash: !/bin/sh": event not found. anyone know why? or a way around this? |
| 18:42.36 | streuner | wuming: did you check out usenet, got a bunch of results... |
| 18:42.47 | greycat | streuner: set +o histexpand |
| 18:42.50 | greycat | bah |
| 18:42.52 | lathm | petemc: i don't think the module is loaded after reboot..how do i check and/or load the module? do i need to escape to a shell? |
| 18:42.52 | greycat | stew: ^^ |
| 18:42.54 | stew | ahh |
| 18:42.55 | stew | ok |
| 18:43.04 | petemc | streuner: use '#!/bin/sh' |
| 18:43.20 | stew | petemc: single quotes? |
| 18:43.22 | petemc | bah |
| 18:43.24 | petemc | yeah |
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| 18:43.41 | greycat | petemc: +o histexpand has other beneficial side effects like allowing him to use things like oggenc ..... -t "Ain't it a shame!" |
| 18:43.44 | abrotman | wuming: did you try discover? |
| 18:43.45 | big-nail | hi |
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| 18:44.05 | petemc | greycat: maybe, i use the history extensively tho |
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| 18:44.17 | wuming | i did |
| 18:44.20 | wuming | and i am doing it |
| 18:44.29 | big-nail | i know it's the wrong place but i just ask *gg*. Does anybody knows, which version of microsoft server 2003 is the lowest, including terminal services? |
| 18:44.41 | daesotho | petemc: ever played descent? |
| 18:44.41 | Puggs | are there any filesystems that can encrypt stuff (i take it ext3 cant?) |
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| 18:44.48 | petemc | daesotho: nope |
| 18:44.48 | stew | greycat: petemc: thank you both, i'm glad to know about both |
| 18:45.00 | greycat | petemc: hmm, they should have a compromise mode where histexpand works csh-like if it's at the *start* of the command, and works sh-like (no special meaning) if it's not. |
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| 18:45.21 | d0ugie | Puggs: why not just encrypt files as you go? encrypting a filesystem, if possible, would probably slow things down a notch |
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| 18:45.28 | d0ugie | plenty of warez for that |
| 18:45.29 | lathm | petemc: after the reboot during the 2nd phase of setup i don't believe there is a spot to configure the network...is there? |
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| 18:45.40 | petemc | greycat: zsh prolly does ;) |
| 18:45.51 | petemc | lathm: alt f2 to get a terminal |
| 18:46.14 | lathm | petemc: oh i didn't realize i could do that at this point |
| 18:46.23 | greycat | lathm: if you got that far without setting up network, it's because you didn't load a network driver module earlier. |
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| 18:46.39 | Puggs | d0ugie: yeah it may slow it down, but pc's these days should be fast enough to cope |
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| 18:47.20 | lathm | greycat: thanks. it listed the modules during the first phase and i accepted defaults with the addition of netcfg. should i be doing something else? |
| 18:47.30 | greycat | lathm: load a driver for your NIC |
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| 18:47.37 | d0ugie | ask again .. i have no idea |
| 18:47.38 | somiaj | Puggs: the 2.6 kernels have a cryptic loopback support, you could probably use that to mount a portion of your fs with sensitive data. |
| 18:47.43 | hyde_ | I have many divert_blk in dmesg output for network cards. What does 'divert' mean here? |
| 18:47.46 | wuming | i got this from /proc/pci VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235 AC97 Audio |
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| 18:47.59 | d0ugie | hey wuming i have the same thing! |
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| 18:48.09 | petemc | lathm: the sarge installer did the same for me, its easy fixed, do what i said and modprobe e1000 |
| 18:48.15 | greycat | wuming: load the via82cxxx_audio module and it should work fine as long as you don't use GNOME, KDE or multiple sound-playing apps simultaneously... |
| 18:48.16 | Puggs | somiaj: cool, that sounds like what i was after, cheers :) |
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| 18:48.44 | wuming | d0ugie:what module u use for your sound car |
| 18:48.45 | somiaj | wuming: via82xx moudles is what your looking for for sound |
| 18:48.46 | wuming | d |
| 18:48.52 | lathm | petemc, greycat: thanks for the help, will try your suggestions and let you know.. |
| 18:48.52 | d0ugie | what greycat said |
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| 18:48.54 | somiaj | Puggs: I have no idea how to use it, I just recall seeing it...(: |
| 18:49.03 | wuming | i need play some mp3 |
| 18:49.04 | |Khaywrk| | hey all, trying to install unixodbc: using debian testing, have installed unixodbc, mdbtools, php-odbc... I get an error message in my apache error.log "/usr/lib/libmdbodbc.so.0: undefined symbol: mdb_get_option" - does anyone have any ideas? |
| 18:49.06 | FieldySnuts | nnnnNNOOOBODY expects the spanish inquisition! (spelling) |
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| 18:49.27 | d0ugie | ls |
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| 18:49.34 | FieldySnuts | ls -lha |
| 18:49.35 | FieldySnuts | er |
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| 18:49.41 | asg | FieldySnuts: the inquisition, let's begin, the inquisition, look out sin, where on a mission ... |
| 18:49.53 | asg | s/where/we're/ |
| 18:49.55 | xam | somiaj, Puggs: I'd recommend the 2.6 dev-mapper, since it's a much cleaner solution (it's backward compatible with cryptoloop) ... |
| 18:50.07 | FieldySnuts | i meant monty python episode heh (google) |
| 18:50.08 | FieldySnuts | bbl |
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| 18:50.15 | asg | !punish irc for severely degrading my ability to spell |
| 18:50.22 | somiaj | wuming: /msg dpkg sound (then after that get a mp3 player, xmms is a lot like winamp classic, though there are many others) |
| 18:50.22 | karim__ | how could I block any destination unreachable icmp message through the outside with shorewall ? |
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| 18:50.39 | FieldySnuts | !what does FreeNode (a 503(c) organization, honestly it is) pay you for? |
| 18:50.40 | dpkg | normally FreeNode a 503(c) organization, honestly it is pays me for unspeakably disgusting actions, fieldysnuts, but I've really had enough... |
| 18:50.42 | somiaj | !spellilng |
| 18:50.45 | somiaj | !spelling |
| 18:50.46 | dpkg | rumour has it, spelling is best dealt with in a qualitative sense. "It's a poor mind that can only think of one way to spell a word.", or what Ambrose Bierce said anyway |
| 18:50.46 | FieldySnuts | doh |
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| 18:51.01 | h2k | damn, where does amsn get LANG variable? |
| 18:51.03 | asg | FieldySnuts: I know, I was raising you a 'History of the World Part I' |
| 18:51.18 | xam | Puggs: http://www.saout.de/misc/dm-crypt/ |
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| 18:51.27 | sussudio | FieldySnuts: isn't it called pdpc-throatwobbler-mangrove now? |
| 18:51.48 | asg | sussudio: raymond luxury yacht |
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| 18:51.59 | l^rchkrn | re |
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| 18:52.16 | sussudio | asg: dinsdale... |
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| 18:52.36 | asg | sussudio: drop your panties sir william, I cannot wait till lunchtime. |
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| 18:54.22 | mirage | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:56.04 | d0ugie | what os/distro does slashdot use on their servers |
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| 18:56.23 | petemc | d0ugie: windows 3.1 |
| 18:56.35 | greycat | d0ugie: tried netcraft? |
| 18:56.42 | d0ugie | yeah but i want the distro |
| 18:56.57 | greycat | d0ugie: wait till cowboyneal shows up, and ask him? |
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| 18:57.06 | amphi | d0ugie: plan 9 I believe |
| 18:57.09 | d0ugie | shoot i thought i was on irc.slashdot.org |
| 18:57.09 | asg | d0ugie: nmap -O and hope cowboyneal doesn't send the badgers to kill you. |
| 18:57.14 | greycat | amphi: no, it says "Unix" |
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| 18:57.53 | d0ugie | anyone install 2.6.6 yet? |
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| 18:58.00 | tdo | hi:) where can i find a good newsgroup server (not a FAI one, mine is not working correctly) |
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| 18:58.54 | mechan0r | how do I control services/runlevels in debian |
| 18:59.01 | greycat | mechan0r: man update-rc.d |
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| 18:59.05 | somiaj | d0ugie: oooo....its out, I've been waiting for it..(: |
| 18:59.09 | wuming | i got seg fault when run gamix |
| 18:59.26 | Xenguy | mechan0r: rcconf may help |
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| 19:01.30 | abrotman | !pubtime |
| 19:01.30 | dpkg | pubtime is, like, time for asg to go .. 3pm! |
| 19:01.52 | streuner | hehe |
| 19:02.09 | mechan0r | rcconf isn't finding all the services |
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| 19:02.29 | greycat | mechan0r: such as? |
| 19:02.38 | abrotman | any of you have the misfortune of knowing vbscript? |
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| 19:02.46 | mechan0r | gnustep_sndd |
| 19:02.54 | abrotman | some guy is asking me how to do crap in it |
| 19:03.02 | greycat | mechan0r: are you sure that's a system-wide service and not simply part of your GUI? |
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| 19:03.17 | Shadur | abrotman: Doing crap in it is surprisingly easy. Any idiot can do it, and most do. |
| 19:03.26 | wuming | ok,,i reboot computer,,losmod show all modules loaded,,gamix telling me no ALSA device |
| 19:03.29 | mechan0r | yes I see it on the boot |
| 19:03.45 | abrotman | Shadur: id rather not .. but hes asking .. and something in my brain makes me help |
| 19:03.48 | greycat | mechan0r: oh well, then do the symlinks in /etc/rc2.d by hand |
| 19:04.02 | Shadur | abrotman: I recommend amputation. |
| 19:04.31 | abrotman | Shadur: i like my head .. it sits well on my shoulders |
| 19:05.04 | somiaj | wuming: you probably don't have an ALSA modules loaded, just an OSS one, get aumix |
| 19:05.05 | greycat | abrotman: you've got no neck? |
| 19:05.40 | abrotman | greycat: it sucks .. but its true .. no ankles either |
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| 19:06.18 | caphuso | a wiki with a clean design? such mythical things exist? |
| 19:06.26 | palomer | hello, what tex to html converters exist for debian? |
| 19:06.28 | wuming | somiaj.ok.i got it |
| 19:07.14 | somiaj | wuming: to get ALSA support you need to either install the alsa modules (2.4.x kernels) or have a 2.6 kernel, and the module names are simmalart to OSS, but would be snd-via82xx (for the card your using) |
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| 19:07.56 | Mish | I'm stuck, how can I get PHP to use "Washington Imap C-client library" under debian? |
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| 19:08.06 | greycat | eeewwwwww. uw-imap. |
| 19:08.07 | abrotman | Mish: #php |
| 19:08.25 | abrotman | and what greycat said :) |
| 19:08.25 | l^rchkrn | Is there any Freenode staff? |
| 19:08.26 | wuming | snd-via8233 4968 0 |
| 19:08.33 | wuming | i have this one loaded |
| 19:08.39 | sussudio | l^rchkrn: why? do you feel you have to be punished? |
| 19:08.46 | greycat | wuming: ALSA. May Tux have mercy on your soul. |
| 19:08.46 | somiaj | Mish: my guess (found with a quick apt-cache search) is have this package isntalled, php4-imap - IMAP module for php4 |
| 19:08.48 | l^rchkrn | sussudio: No. |
| 19:08.54 | l^rchkrn | sussudio: Are you stuff? |
| 19:08.56 | l^rchkrn | staff |
| 19:09.06 | sussudio | l^rchkrn: why? |
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| 19:09.19 | wuming | snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm snd-timer snd-ac97-codec snd |
| 19:09.19 | Nosf3ratu | this shouldn't be this hard to find...a backup program to backup a directory to a cd on a schedule. say, monthly, but incremental. |
| 19:09.24 | wuming | those are loaded in |
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| 19:09.50 | l^rchkrn | sussudio: irc.ipv6.freenode.net does not resolve. However irc.ipv6.eu.freenode.net does... And they dont voice me on #freenode... |
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| 19:10.30 | wuming | still getting probe.c 40: No ALSA device. |
| 19:10.49 | l^rchkrn | sussudio: But you are not staff. |
| 19:10.50 | EfaistOs | what are the pkgs with the exetension dfsg ? |
| 19:10.56 | greycat | EfaistOs: new X. |
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| 19:11.06 | palomer | pstoimg: Error: "/usr/bin/pnmcrop -verbose < /tmp/l2h14668/p14682.pnm | /usr/bin/pnmcrop -verbose -bot -sides -sides | /usr/bin/pnmcrop -verbose -l -sides -sides > /tmp/l2h14668/p14682.t00" failed: Illegal seek <---what does this mean? |
| 19:11.10 | sussudio | l^rchkrn: i'm the lead pipe |
| 19:11.11 | greycat | !4.3.0.dfsg |
| 19:11.12 | dpkg | Read the changelog: http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/x/xfree86/xfree86_4.3.0.dfsg.1-1/changelog |
| 19:11.13 | EfaistOs | greycat, what are the difference ? |
| 19:11.22 | EfaistOs | !4.3.0.dfsg |
| 19:11.22 | dpkg | Read the changelog: http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/x/xfree86/xfree86_4.3.0.dfsg.1-1/changelog |
| 19:11.29 | l^rchkrn | sussudio: lilo? |
| 19:11.30 | xpato | hi, how can i extract one file from a tar file? |
| 19:11.32 | zhu | i have a problem with my modules, for example: i have too install my nvnet everytime i start my computer. This was fixed before and my system was stable, but when i tried too add som things in my kernel i maby did something wrong, well the sound and network modules does not load. what do i do? |
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| 19:11.51 | greycat | zhu: put the module's name in /etc/modules |
| 19:12.08 | zhu | ill try that. |
| 19:12.09 | sussudio | l^rchkrn: did you read the topic in #freenode? |
| 19:12.14 | streuner | xpato: /msg dpkg tar or/and apt-get install mc |
| 19:12.19 | l^rchkrn | sussudio: :-) |
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| 19:12.46 | bhankins | to see foreign language fonts in web browsers, is that something I need to look at, at the web browser level, or is it packages I need to install in the xfrr86 area? |
| 19:13.05 | streuner | xpato: MidnightCommander can handle that... |
| 19:13.06 | zhu | greycat: what are the basic commands after i changed something in "make menuconfig" (slackware 9.1) |
| 19:13.20 | l^rchkrn | /ignore sussudio "Selfidh" |
| 19:13.20 | greycat | zhu: /join #slackware |
| 19:13.25 | zhu | ok... |
| 19:13.33 | xpato | streuner: i need to make it manualy in a script :( |
| 19:13.39 | wuming | found this is dmesg,, this means o mething? |
| 19:13.42 | wuming | ALSA ../../alsa-kernel/pci/ac97/ac97_codec.c:1448: AC'97 0:0 analog subsections not ready |
| 19:13.53 | greycat | 15:08 greycat> wuming: ALSA. May Tux have mercy on your soul. |
| 19:13.59 | Supaplex | At this time, I'm courious if I have an arch specific issue with networking. From the internal lan to the internet (ipmasq) I get about 1k/s. I'm running an b132l hppa machine with onboard lasi ethernet, and a 3c509b isa in the eisa slot. The machine was cold booted atleast once after the physical network changes took place. I've swapped in+out cables and the switch. ipmasq is setup in iptables ( http://67.161.244.143/~supaplex/ |
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| 19:14.13 | somiaj | bhankins: you just need the fonts set up in X, so the web browswer can use them.... |
| 19:14.25 | bhankins | somiaj, thanks alot. |
| 19:14.53 | greycat | Supaplex: full vs. half duplex mismatch? |
| 19:15.04 | somiaj | bhankins: /msg dpkg fonts, /msg dpkg truetype (stuff like that will have some info for ya) |
| 19:15.14 | sussudio | Supaplex: did you reconfigure your eisa stuff? |
| 19:16.00 | bhankins | somiaj, thanks alot. |
| 19:16.26 | greycat | Supaplex: by the way, those EISA backplanes are quite hard to find nowadays. if you ever decide to get rid of the machine, keep that thing around, or sell it to us.... |
| 19:16.33 | Supaplex | greycat: I get good rates between machines on the same switch. just downloading anything takes ages |
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| 19:17.19 | sussudio | Supaplex: is the MTU on the machine and the router the same? |
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| 19:17.30 | Supaplex | sussudio: I don't know that that will affect it, and I'm not sure how to either. I get good rates between that nic and the other 2 machines |
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| 19:17.57 | Supaplex | the router is a rca cable modem |
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| 19:18.23 | bhankins | dpkg sarge |
| 19:18.23 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, sarge is the <reply> Fall in! Ten-HUT! Sarge is the new 'testing' version of Debian, which will become stable soon. You can help test it: ask me about "d-i" or see the #debian-boot topic. |
| 19:18.28 | bhankins | sorry |
| 19:18.35 | greycat | bleh. |
| 19:18.46 | greycat | dpkg, sarge =~ s/the <reply>/<reply>/ |
| 19:18.47 | dpkg | OK, greycat |
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| 19:19.03 | Supaplex | the mtu on eth0 and eth1 are MTU:1500 |
| 19:19.06 | sussudio | Supaplex: if it's set to 1500 and your cable modem uses pppoe or something else with overhead, you will have to set it lower |
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| 19:19.22 | nkuttler | links should support tabbed browsing |
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| 19:20.42 | Supaplex | sussudio: I don't have any problem decreasing the mtu. I know it doesn't use pppoe. downloads to that machine from the internet are good. 300-400kb/s |
| 19:21.15 | xpato | how can i extract the files from a tar and copy inmediatly to another dir? |
| 19:21.27 | caphuso | xpato: infobrowser find |
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| 19:22.03 | shaleh | xpato: I typically do: cd newdir; tar zxvf ../tarfile |
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| 19:23.39 | astronut | when doing dpkg -l, how do you make it so you can see the whole name (mine is clipped) |
| 19:24.15 | somiaj | astronut: man dpkg, COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l |
| 19:24.24 | astronut | ah |
| 19:24.25 | Supaplex | to restate, phirewall: 67.161.244.143 = eth0 192.168.0.10 = eth1. All other clients are on 192.168.0.?? from 192.168 clients to other 192.168 clients are getting 800kb/s+ the 67. addy on phirewall ge |
| 19:24.29 | Supaplex | ts 300kb/s+ to the internet. any 192.168.0.?? client to the internet gets about 1kb/s |
| 19:25.18 | greycat | Supaplex: so it's only NAT that's throttled all the way to hell? |
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| 19:25.27 | Supaplex | yup |
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| 19:26.08 | soulskinner | hello! |
| 19:26.28 | soulskinner | i've got some problems compiling the nvnet module against a 2.4.24 kernel |
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| 19:26.46 | greycat | soulskinner: why would you bother in the first place? |
| 19:26.57 | greycat | isn't nvnet in 2.4.26? |
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| 19:27.27 | somiaj | yea I wouldn't be running a 2.4.24 kernel due to the exploit mentioned in the /topic |
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| 19:27.40 | Supaplex | maybe I can up a dummy interface with a similar rule set to see what else i can discover |
| 19:27.45 | soulskinner | greycat: yes but i only have a slow isdn connection :( |
| 19:27.56 | somiaj | Supaplex: what are you using to set up your firewall? |
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| 19:28.16 | greycat | -rw-r--r-- 1 greg greg 1827684 2004-02-18 08:37 patch-2.4.25.bz2 |
| 19:28.16 | greycat | -rw-r--r-- 1 greg src 784734 2004-04-14 09:14 patch-2.4.26.bz2 |
| 19:28.16 | Supaplex | http://67.161.244.143/~supaplex/rules.txt |
| 19:28.19 | greycat | they're not *that* big! |
| 19:28.19 | stew | Supaplex: maybe try swapping out the eth1 nic? |
| 19:28.26 | soulskinner | greycat: and i don't understand why it doesn't compile. It can't find the headers but both headers and sources are installed |
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| 19:28.41 | greycat | soulskinner: did you point it at /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.4.26/include ? |
| 19:28.48 | soulskinner | greycat: always 1.5 hours to download :( |
| 19:28.48 | greycat | err, .24 |
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| 19:29.07 | greycat | soulskinner: it shouldn't take you 1.5 hours to download two patches, one less than 2 MB, the other less than 1 MB |
| 19:29.10 | caphuso | nvnet is closed source, it can't be in 2.6.26 |
| 19:29.24 | greycat | caphuso: oh? damn, I'm thinking of foredeth! |
| 19:29.28 | greycat | err, forcedeth |
| 19:29.39 | astronut | somiaj: didn't help |
| 19:29.42 | sarah | hi, can someone give me advice on an nfs server? |
| 19:29.54 | Supaplex | stew, yea, I've only got a million of em :) I'll try to reproduce it via the dummy nic driver (I think I compiled it as a module anyway...) |
| 19:29.58 | greycat | sarah: "don't drop it out the window"? |
| 19:30.04 | d0ugie | hi sarah |
| 19:30.13 | Supaplex | greycat: hehe |
| 19:30.17 | sarah | : ) |
| 19:30.18 | ricky_clarkson | I have a "Genius" sound card. What module might that correspond to? |
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| 19:30.23 | d0ugie | what a pretty smile, sarah |
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| 19:30.33 | astronut | damn...a girl comes in here and loko what happens |
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| 19:30.43 | sarah | I ran /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server restart |
| 19:30.50 | sarah | and it didn't restart |
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| 19:30.59 | d0ugie | so sarah.. you into debian? |
| 19:31.00 | soulskinner | greycat: I think I have no unpatched sources of my 2.4.24 because they are special dvb/vdr patched.....worth a try |
| 19:31.01 | greycat | sarah: if you're having a problem, it helps if you state what the problem is first |
| 19:31.05 | stew | Supaplex: well if you've got a million of them, hopefully you used 2 good ones for the firewall :) |
| 19:31.16 | greycat | d0ugie: she's in #debian. therefore it's safe to assume she's using Debian on at least one computer. |
| 19:31.22 | greycat | d0ugie: if she's not, then we get to flame her. |
| 19:31.34 | d0ugie | don't you dare flame sarah, my baby |
| 19:31.35 | sarah | yeah, I'm sorry, I just started using debian and need some quick advice |
| 19:31.43 | somiaj | astronut: COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l, works for me, |
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| 19:31.47 | sarah | I can't restart the box, my boss is using it |
| 19:31.54 | greycat | sarah: what error did you get? |
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| 19:32.05 | sarah | no error, it hangs |
| 19:32.17 | lamp | strange |
| 19:32.17 | witless | when i run: dpkg -l , it cuts off the package names. how can i see the entire package name? |
| 19:32.19 | d0ugie | so sarah, do you compile your own kernels? |
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| 19:32.27 | somiaj | witless: COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l |
| 19:32.33 | witless | somiaj: thx |
| 19:32.42 | ekimatic | sarah: do you have any zombie processes in top? |
| 19:32.46 | sarah | I assume there's some other starup script I need to run, 'cause restarting the machine will restart the server |
| 19:33.03 | greycat | sarah: depends on what caused it to break in the first place. do you also use NIS? |
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| 19:33.18 | sarah | no nis |
| 19:33.20 | ekimatic | sarah: or ldap users/groups? |
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| 19:34.00 | sarah | no ldap |
| 19:34.25 | ekimatic | sarah: what does "ps ax|grep -c nfs" output? |
| 19:34.27 | sarah | what's a zombie process? |
| 19:34.31 | Supaplex | stew I only have 1 eisa slot, so I have to accept the onboard. the good news is, I did compile 'dummy' for a modularized network driver. :) testing will commence when I'm done with lunch. |
| 19:34.31 | greycat | sarah: try "/etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server stop" and see if it shuts down cleanly. if not, start killing NFS-related processes (mountd, nfsd, lockd, ..>) |
| 19:34.38 | sap | i'm not trying to start anything here, but which wm would you say is the easiest to use and understand .. say for someone who has rarely uses a computer? |
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| 19:34.52 | ricky_clarkson | sap: a calculator. |
| 19:35.01 | Puggs | sap: mac osx? |
| 19:35.04 | sarah | 1 |
| 19:35.07 | sap | ricky_clarkson: trust you! |
| 19:35.13 | greycat | then again, if she doesn't know what a zombie is, perhaps it's better if she kicks her boss off and reboots it. |
| 19:35.14 | ricky_clarkson | sap: No, don't. |
| 19:35.21 | sap | ricky_clarkson: ok |
| 19:35.28 | zophyx | sap: icewm |
| 19:35.35 | ekimatic | greycat: no, it's better to help her fix it. |
| 19:35.40 | ziber | is there a smooth way to use .rpms on debian? i dont want to convert them to .deb? |
| 19:35.47 | astronut | somiaj: join #flood |
| 19:35.47 | greycat | sap: KDE's not too bad if you can deal with the size |
| 19:36.03 | greycat | ekimatic: perhaps. |
| 19:36.07 | ekimatic | ziber: you have to convert them to deb. Use alien. |
| 19:36.08 | sap | zophyx: thanks, i knew i could rely on you |
| 19:36.17 | sap | greycat: ok, cheers |
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| 19:36.37 | ziber | ekimatic: is there a another way? |
| 19:36.44 | somiaj | sap: lots of people like kde or gnome as it is more what they are accustom to |
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| 19:36.49 | greycat | ziber: run red hat |
| 19:36.53 | ekimatic | ziber: what's wrong with that? |
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| 19:36.58 | es | what do you recomend for sftp daemon under debian? proftpd? |
| 19:37.03 | greycat | es: ssh |
| 19:37.07 | petemc | es: sftp is ssh |
| 19:37.09 | astronut | somiaj: see? |
| 19:37.24 | ziber | greycat: rh suxs but there is products that only works with rh |
| 19:37.26 | ekimatic | ziber: dpkg and debs are *the* way to manage packages in debian. It doesn't use use rpm. |
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| 19:37.31 | ziber | greycat: like plesk |
| 19:37.32 | somiaj | astronut: check #flood |
| 19:37.32 | greycat | ziber: no there aren't. |
| 19:37.44 | greycat | ziber: there are products that are only *supported* on RH. Not the same thing. |
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| 19:37.57 | ziber | ekimatic: i see , i just looking for a way... |
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| 19:38.05 | pder | i started to copy a very large file between machines using scp and my connection got broken. is there a way to resume this file transfer without starting over? |
| 19:38.12 | ricky_clarkson | The dpkg factoid for audio says to use modconf to load your driver. modconf doesn't show any audio drivers. Any ideas? |
| 19:38.16 | greycat | pder: use rsync over ssh |
| 19:38.20 | petemc | pder: rsync -P |
| 19:38.20 | ekimatic | ziber: use alien to convert your rpm to deb. They you dpkg -i the deb. |
| 19:38.22 | es | greycat: petemc: I know scp provides ftp like fuctionality but I want to be able to connect with an ftp client using the encription provided by ssh |
| 19:38.25 | greycat | ricky_clarkson: uname -r |
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| 19:38.40 | ziber | ekimatic: oki thanx .. |
| 19:38.47 | ricky_clarkson | greycat: 2.2.20-idepci - how did that happen? ;( |
| 19:38.52 | greycat | ricky_clarkson: /msg dpkg idepci |
| 19:38.56 | pder | problem is im copying from a windows machine using puttys pscp |
| 19:38.57 | petemc | es: things like nautilus support sftp:// , otherwide use winscp |
| 19:39.00 | ricky_clarkson | greycat: No, I'll upgrade. |
| 19:39.03 | lamp | ricky_clarkson my soundcard just don't work aztech live with it :p |
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| 19:39.23 | ekimatic | sarah: did you try anything since you last posted to the channel? |
| 19:39.38 | ricky_clarkson | lamp: I've used the same soundcard in Linux years ago (leant the computer to my Mum, it got Windowsised). |
| 19:39.42 | es | petemc: so I don't need to add any additional daemon to provide sftp functionality? |
| 19:39.50 | sarah | ekimatic: It's hanging |
| 19:39.54 | petemc | es: no |
| 19:40.01 | wuming | hey,,I can set the volume control in gnome, but when i run gamix i still got no alsa device,,try to play a mp3,,the xmms is playing but no sound |
| 19:40.07 | lamp | My card only works with oss for 20 minutes |
| 19:40.11 | petemc | wuming: alsamixer |
| 19:40.12 | ricky_clarkson | Does an AMD K6 233 count as 686 for kernel images? |
| 19:40.18 | greycat | ricky_clarkson: no, k6 |
| 19:40.18 | somiaj | wuming: try alsamixergui |
| 19:40.24 | ricky_clarkson | greycat: There is no k6. |
| 19:40.25 | sarah | I ran stop, whi seemed to stop the server cleanly even though it wasn't running, and then ran start again |
| 19:40.30 | greycat | ricky_clarkson: then i586 *might* work. |
| 19:40.33 | sussudio | ricky_clarkson: don't think so |
| 19:40.37 | astronut | thanks somiaj |
| 19:40.43 | greycat | ricky_clarkson: or failing that, just use i386 |
| 19:40.44 | ricky_clarkson | greycat: There is 386, 686 and k7 |
| 19:40.44 | ekimatic | sarah: run "dmesg | grep -i oops" |
| 19:40.49 | dan2 | !find kernel image k6 |
| 19:40.50 | greycat | ricky_clarkson: build your own |
| 19:40.50 | ricky_clarkson | Ok. |
| 19:40.53 | wuming | bash: alsamixergui: command not found |
| 19:40.55 | Supaplex | ricky_clarkson: kp is your friend. i386 should work ok tho. |
| 19:40.57 | ricky_clarkson | greycat: Nah. |
| 19:40.57 | ekimatic | sarah: what about the last command I told you to run? |
| 19:40.58 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'kernel image k6' returned no results. |
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| 19:41.08 | dan2 | wtf? |
| 19:41.19 | greycat | dan2: !find is not equivalent to apt-cache search |
| 19:41.23 | wuming | alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory |
| 19:41.28 | dan2 | ~+info kernel-image-2.4-k6 |
| 19:41.29 | wuming | what;s this mean,,what i need |
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| 19:41.38 | greycat | !be alsa advocate |
| 19:41.39 | dpkg | <pmitros> I don't believe you would understand the architectural decisions that went into ALSA without about half an hour of explanation, and I have better things to do with my time. |
| 19:41.41 | es | petemc: cool it works even in jEdit! |
| 19:41.46 | sarah | ekimatic: it returned 1 |
| 19:41.52 | sussudio | ricky_clarkson: - "K6" for the AMD K6, K6-II and K6-III (aka K6-3D). |
| 19:41.54 | dan2 | ricky_clarkson: open your eyes |
| 19:41.55 | Flimzy | Is anyone here aware of a web proxy that can do gzip compression of content before sending it to the browser? |
| 19:41.56 | ricky_clarkson | dan2: 2.6 |
| 19:42.02 | astronut | ok...enw question...i don't have kernel 2.2.20 on, it was the default....its not in dpkg -l, but the /lib/modules/2.2.20 is still there and full |
| 19:42.10 | ekimatic | sarah: ok run "/etc/init.d/kernel-nfs-server start" |
| 19:42.12 | astronut | should i just delete it or is there somethign i don't know about? |
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| 19:42.21 | greycat | Flimzy: that seems like a very small market...? |
| 19:42.38 | Flimzy | greycat: Maybe... but does it exist? :) |
| 19:42.39 | astronut | hmm... the kernel is still in /boot too |
| 19:42.44 | greycat | Flimzy: wouldn't it be much much better to gzip the content between the upstream site and the proxy, rather than over the fast brower-to-proxy LAN link? |
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| 19:43.06 | ekimatic | greycat: there are companies that charge $20,000 for a device that does that... |
| 19:43.09 | myren | haha! i have completed the impossible! i cant now use kerberos tickets for ldap authentication or use saslauthd as an intermediary to allow simple binds |
| 19:43.12 | Flimzy | greycat: I'll have a dialup connection between the proxy and my browser. |
| 19:43.13 | l^rchkrn | Are there any Ruby programmers? I have a question and #ruby seems dead. |
| 19:43.15 | l^rchkrn | ? |
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| 19:43.51 | Flimzy | greycat: Altho, yes, it would make more sense to compress on the initial web server, but since I don't control the vast majority of the web servers I connect to, I can't do that :) |
| 19:44.02 | LoRez | l^rchkrn: that doesn't make it on topic for #debian |
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| 19:44.10 | h2k | now, amsn does not have fonts antialiased, why (tcl/tk conf problem?) |
| 19:44.10 | oskie | sshd[26399]: Nasty PTR record "192.168.0.4" is set up for 192.168.0.4, ignoring |
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| 19:44.14 | oskie | anyone understand that? |
| 19:44.24 | astronut | sounds like a DNS issue |
| 19:44.24 | sarah | ekimatic: no oops in dmesg, and trying to start the server still hangs |
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| 19:44.46 | LoRez | oskie: reverse dns for 192.168.0.4 is '192.168.0.4' and not a hostname |
| 19:44.46 | ekimatic | Flimzy: check out squid. It's either that or apache, and I'd bet on squid doing it before apache... |
| 19:44.46 | l^rchkrn | LoRez, Supaplex: Okay... |
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| 19:45.03 | Flimzy | ekimatic: Squid will support that in the next major release, but it doesn't now. |
| 19:45.13 | oskie | LoRez: is that bad? I guess it is dnsmasq's fault |
| 19:45.25 | Flimzy | ekimatic: Apache can do it... but Apache makes for a weak proxy server, IMO... being developed as a web server. |
| 19:45.28 | ekimatic | sarah: run "dpkg |less" and look for nfs error messages... |
| 19:45.39 | ekimatic | sarah: oops, not that command... |
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| 19:45.42 | cuse | Do I have to enable something for using true type fonts with XFree86? Because I use an application that uses its own true type fonts and it refuses to run with a very strange font error message. |
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| 19:45.49 | greycat | sarah: he meant "dmesg | less" |
| 19:45.49 | ekimatic | sarah: run "dmesg|less" instead. |
| 19:45.59 | ekimatic | greycat: yeah. |
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| 19:47.33 | cheddar | I'd like to backup to a remote host, but it's not my box. what's the best way to do this? I'd like to use rsync and avoid a local encryption first.. |
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| 19:48.32 | sarah | ekimatic: portmap: server localhost not responding, timed out |
| 19:48.37 | sarah | is that relevant? |
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| 19:49.23 | greycat | sarah: is portmap running? If not, start it.. |
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| 19:50.42 | myren | are there any IDE's which partially integrate vi/vim? |
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| 19:50.58 | jharrison | anyone know why on a fresh install with alsa drivers in 2.6 kernel and I am added to the audio group however arts gives an error at login saying device file missing or not found? |
| 19:50.59 | Jeedo | hi, when i'm pasting in vim tabs are not properly pasted, they turn into space |
| 19:51.04 | Jeedo | any way to fix that |
| 19:51.08 | js_ | Jeedo: tried :set paste ? |
| 19:51.11 | sarah | greycat: that did it : ) |
| 19:51.11 | nkuttler | myren: kdevelop + vim plugin? |
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| 19:51.28 | Jeedo | js_: i did :set paste, didnt work |
| 19:51.29 | nkuttler | myren: or vim component, however kde calles it |
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| 19:51.44 | sarah | ekimatic: thank you! I sorta figured I was being dumb |
| 19:51.51 | sarah | greycat: thanks! |
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| 19:51.58 | Supaplex | Jeedo: set paste what exactly did you do? |
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| 19:52.09 | myren | i tried kdevelop a couple years ago. scared me off, went back to makefiles and vim. mainly cause the project files it made were numerous and scary. |
| 19:52.14 | myren | i'll give it another run |
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| 19:52.27 | oskie | I cannot SSH to my box - I keep getting access denied immediately... the auth.log or daemon.log doesn't say anyting |
| 19:52.35 | Jeedo | Supaplex: dragged my mouse over another vim window selecting text, pasted it into another with middle click |
| 19:52.40 | greycat | oskie: when, precisely, is "immediately"? |
| 19:52.42 | faber | hi guys, if i cannot mount a partition (unknown filesystem), can i then be sure that nothing is using this partition and format it? |
| 19:52.59 | greycat | faber: df |
| 19:53.17 | naim | faber :: df -h |
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| 19:53.25 | nkuttler | hm? he can't mount it |
| 19:53.32 | oskie | greycat: well, normally it waits 3 seconds or so after you've entered a bad password |
| 19:53.43 | greycat | oskie: so you *do* get prompted for a password? |
| 19:53.57 | Supaplex | oskie: do you have local access to the machine to? |
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| 19:54.05 | Jeedo | i normally just close the file, open it in scite and open it again |
| 19:54.07 | oskie | greycat: yeah. I can SSH in from machines on the net, not just this machine in the LAN (putty client) |
| 19:54.12 | oskie | Supaplex: yeah |
| 19:54.20 | greycat | oskie: tell putty to use protocol 2 |
| 19:54.47 | Supaplex | oskie: I assume you can run other commands etc. it's always fun when your drive takes a dirt nap ;/ (had that happen once or twice) |
| 19:54.49 | greycat | (or tell sshd to allow protocol 1) |
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| 19:55.08 | areac | hi there |
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| 19:55.12 | areac | I have a big problem guys :) |
| 19:55.18 | Supaplex | ask away |
| 19:55.22 | areac | My new Ps2 Keyboard on the 2.6 kernel doesn't work |
| 19:55.28 | areac | any suggestion ? |
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| 19:56.06 | oskie | greycat, Supaplex: wow, upgrading putty solved the problem. I think putty had some issues, because this server had changed ssh key but putty didn't complain |
| 19:56.06 | Supaplex | whick 2.6, and who made it, or where did it come from? |
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| 19:56.13 | jharrison | ricky_clarkson: its a bit late but feeling like playing some xbill? |
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| 19:56.35 | areac | Supaplex i made it |
| 19:56.37 | Supaplex | oskie koo |
| 19:56.42 | bazou | hi everyone |
| 19:56.42 | areac | I'm using now a ps2 keyboard |
| 19:56.48 | ricky_clarkson | jharrison: Not really, no. |
| 19:56.51 | cuse | Can somebody tell me what I have to do to enable true type fonts under X11? |
| 19:56.51 | areac | but new one doesn't work |
| 19:56.54 | areac | I don't know why |
| 19:56.59 | ricky_clarkson | jharrison: Why do you ask? |
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| 19:57.08 | bazou | i'm newbie on irc can someone tell me the command to join a french channel plz? |
| 19:57.15 | greycat | !french |
| 19:57.16 | dpkg | Vous pouvez obtenir de l'aide sur Debian sur le canal #debian-fr - For help in french, please join #debian-fr |
| 19:57.19 | faxo|away | i m french |
| 19:57.21 | jharrison | ricky_clarkson: it was a joke in reference to your mum windowizing your old puter |
| 19:57.22 | faxo|away | que veux tu ? |
| 19:57.23 | l^rchkrn | /join #debian-fr |
| 19:57.24 | somiaj | !tell cause -about truetype |
| 19:57.24 | bazou | ah :) |
| 19:57.27 | ricky_clarkson | jharrison: I see. |
| 19:57.28 | faxo|away | bazou :) |
| 19:57.40 | jredburn | I recently upgraded to kernel 2.6.6 (from 2.6.0-test7) and the kernel is not finding my root fs. Anyone willing to help me figure out the problem? |
| 19:57.41 | bazou | ben je galere un peu sur irc |
| 19:57.44 | faxo|away | bazou : fait /j #debian-fr |
| 19:57.50 | bazou | oki thx |
| 19:57.57 | bazou | tu connais un peu knoppix? |
| 19:57.57 | ricky_clarkson | bazou: faxo|away /part |
| 19:57.57 | greycat | jredburn: did you use "make oldconfig"? Is this an initrd kernel? |
| 19:58.25 | faxo | bazou: ouais bof, non pas trop, j'utilise debian |
| 19:58.38 | jredburn | greycat: it's been a while. initrd is like the generic kernels with everything built in a la knoppix? nope, not initrd. yes i used make oldconfig. |
| 19:58.53 | bazou | oki moi aussi jutilisais debian mais je viens de mettre une knoppix et c la merde pour changer de noyau |
| 19:59.04 | bazou | c pas la meme methode apparemment |
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| 19:59.21 | cuse | !tell cuse -about truetype |
| 19:59.21 | faxo | bazou: je peux pas te dire, en faites, ici moi j'ai des problemes avec ma débian |
| 19:59.22 | Supaplex | hellooooo you two, take it to #debain-fr please. |
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| 19:59.36 | faxo | bazou knopixx je connais pas grand chose |
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| 19:59.49 | yang | How is solitaire for debian called? |
| 19:59.57 | jredburn | greycat: root fs is reiser ... anything dramatic changed during the 2.6 series there? |
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| 20:00.01 | greycat | yang: apt-cache search solitaire |
| 20:00.21 | Supaplex | greycat: thanks :) |
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| 20:00.56 | greycat | jredburn: check to make sure you have IDE disk support (assuming IDE...) and reiserfs support built in (not modules). Check to make sure you aren't using devfs by default at boot time, unless your kernel is configured to use /dev/stupuid/devfs/path/names/to/the/disk/drive/partition ... |
| 20:00.56 | yang | I am unable to set locales, dpkg-reconfigure locales doesnt work |
| 20:01.14 | greycat | !tell yang about doesn't work |
| 20:01.26 | daesotho | yang: **** r u using sid? |
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| 20:01.35 | ChrisW | how do I find otu wha tversion fo a package I have installed? |
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| 20:01.39 | greycat | ChrisW: FAQ |
| 20:01.52 | yang | daesotho: yes |
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| 20:02.05 | faxo | is it bvf24 ? |
| 20:02.06 | daesotho | yang: try manually upgrading glibc |
| 20:02.10 | faxo | bf24 ? |
| 20:02.25 | ChrisW | greycat: where's tha tFAQ? ;-) |
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| 20:02.36 | greycat | ChrisW: /topic |
| 20:02.44 | greycat | ChrisW: /msg dpkg faq |
| 20:02.55 | jredburn | greycat: hrmm, devfs could be the problem. i have a need for it -- stupid reason -- the old kernel works fine with my current settings. possible things have changed? |
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| 20:03.15 | ChrisW | fajita? |
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| 20:04.34 | arnon | what's the latest jdk for debian ? 1.1 ??? |
| 20:04.37 | arnon | sun jdkl |
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| 20:04.56 | greycat | !java licensing |
| 20:04.57 | dpkg | read the faq at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-java-faq/ch5.html#s-license-concerns |
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| 20:05.50 | Almost8 | can anyone confirm this ? |
| 20:05.52 | h2k | how can i set font (antialias) stuff on sid? dpkg-reconfigure ..... |
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| 20:06.03 | tuxillo | Someone know why I cannot change resolution and modes in VESA framebuffer? |
| 20:06.11 | arnon | ah that sucks... |
| 20:06.13 | Almost8 | woody -> sarge -> sid = stable -> testing -> unstable ? |
| 20:06.19 | Almost8 | is that correct ? |
| 20:06.20 | greycat | Almost8: yes |
| 20:06.23 | Almost8 | thanks |
| 20:06.26 | Almost8 | quit |
| 20:06.30 | l^rchkrn | tuxillo: framebuffer resolution cannot be changed by nature... |
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| 20:06.42 | tuxillo | l^rchkrn: I meant with fbset |
| 20:06.50 | p2-mate | l^rchkrn: it can be, just not for vesa fb |
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| 20:07.02 | Supaplex | so, is the dummy nic pretty much a skel for new drivers? so someone can see how the current driver works? I can't ping it. |
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| 20:07.14 | davisfactor | what packages do i need to get xfree86 fully installed? using a matrox dual-head video card if that matters |
| 20:07.18 | thoreauputic | SCOX just closed below $5 |
| 20:07.19 | greycat | davisfactor: x-window-system |
| 20:07.29 | sussudio | thomas_adam: heh. disneyland arabia. |
| 20:07.29 | davisfactor | greycat: thanks! |
| 20:07.37 | tuxillo | p2-mate: do you use VESA fb? |
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| 20:07.43 | thomas_adam | sussudio: ? |
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| 20:07.49 | sussudio | thomas_adam: dead ringers. |
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| 20:07.56 | thomas_adam | l^rchkrn: I program in Ruby - what's wrong? |
| 20:07.59 | thomas_adam | sussudio: hahaha, yes. :) |
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| 20:08.07 | l^rchkrn | thomas_adam: Ruby? I have a Ruby question. |
| 20:08.16 | dasenjo | Hi, I have a problem with Alt-Gr .. It is working in the tty but not in the X. It was working in the X with the same configuration... |
| 20:08.22 | p2-mate | tuxillo: no |
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| 20:08.29 | thomas_adam | l^rchkrn: It's offtopic in here. /J #ruby-lang |
| 20:08.37 | tuxillo | :( |
| 20:08.39 | arnon | can I download jdk's rpm from sun.com and then use alien to convert it ? |
| 20:08.40 | l^rchkrn | thomas_adam: Ok. |
| 20:08.59 | thomas_adam | arnon: why not download the .run file? |
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| 20:09.07 | somiaj | arnon: why not just download the self extracting .bin from sun.... |
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| 20:09.20 | arnon | what if I want to uninstall ? |
| 20:09.23 | ChrisW | Do exim 3.35-1woody2 and exim-tls 3.35-3woody1 have fixes for DSA 501-1? |
| 20:09.25 | jredburn | greycat: yuck. i managed to screw up grub |
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| 20:09.43 | FieldySnuts | !wang sussudio |
| 20:09.48 | arnon | thomas_adam, somiaj, what if I want to uninstall it ? |
| 20:09.53 | jredburn | greycat: thanks for your help. i'll fix grub then try playing around a bit |
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| 20:10.02 | thomas_adam | !tell arnon about stow |
| 20:10.13 | witless | when i run mplayer, it hard-locks my machine up after a few minutes. any idea what this might be? |
| 20:10.29 | nkuttler | witless: running as root? |
| 20:10.35 | arnon | thomas_adam, that's neat |
| 20:10.35 | witless | nkuttler: no |
| 20:10.37 | arnon | thanks |
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| 20:10.57 | nkuttler | witless: can you ssh into the box? |
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| 20:11.10 | ricII | lvm(1) + kernel 2.6 in stable won't life together ? |
| 20:11.12 | naim | witless, what do u mean hardlocks |
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| 20:11.13 | XTF | I'd like to setup a subversion server on debian testing and I was wondering, are there already script for init.d for it? |
| 20:11.22 | greycat | ricII: /msg dpkg bunk 2.6 |
| 20:11.23 | witless | nope, can't ssh. have to power-cycle |
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| 20:11.49 | witless | can't ping it either. |
| 20:11.50 | naim | witless, i see what u mean |
| 20:11.56 | sussudio | FieldySnuts: you too can visit "electrodes on the testes"-land and be tortured by your favourite disney characters |
| 20:12.04 | FieldySnuts | neat |
| 20:12.13 | ricII | thx greycat . |
| 20:12.21 | sussudio | FieldySnuts: except for goofy, he's needed in the whitehouse |
| 20:12.31 | witless | that's dopey |
| 20:12.45 | sussudio | witless: dopey's in the GAMP squad |
| 20:12.51 | witless | ah |
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| 20:13.03 | greycat | sussudio: *cough* off topic... |
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| 20:13.17 | gilgo | hello |
| 20:13.17 | nkuttler | after all i run fluxbox, links _can_ do tabbed browsing... |
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| 20:13.44 | croepha | what is a good way to messure internet usage and trafic from the console |
| 20:13.44 | gilgo | anyone here ever had a problem getting java to work on debian 3.0r2? mozilla / firefox won't load the applets... |
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| 20:14.00 | greycat | debian 3.0r2 has: a) no firefox, b) no modern java. |
| 20:14.11 | Morgan | I am trying to install Apache on my Debian install except it keeps asking for the Debian CD (Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y |
| 20:14.11 | Morgan | Media Change: Please insert the disc labeled 'Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 _Woody_ - LordSutch.com MiniCD i386 Binary-1 (20020920)' in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter |
| 20:14.13 | greycat | Debian unstable has: b) no modern java. |
| 20:14.21 | greycat | !java licensing |
| 20:14.22 | dpkg | read the faq at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-java-faq/ch5.html#s-license-concerns |
| 20:14.29 | Morgan | And I have no CD or access to the machine |
| 20:14.39 | greycat | see also: /msg dpkg java /msg dpkg jdk /msg dpkg sid mozilla java /msg dpkg sid mozilla java debs |
| 20:14.52 | greycat | oops, no trailing 's' on the last one |
| 20:14.52 | gilgo | where can I het a newer java? ok |
| 20:14.53 | greycat | see also: /msg dpkg java /msg dpkg jdk /msg dpkg sid mozilla java /msg dpkg sid mozilla java deb |
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| 20:15.02 | witless | dammit, i wanna watch my dr strangelove VOB's - mplayer's locking up on me :-( |
| 20:15.10 | ChrisW | ug |
| 20:15.11 | gilgo | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:15.13 | d0ugie | greycat: so for via82cxxx_audio setups, you recommend not installing any modules and letting x and the various managers figure it out on their sound servers? |
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| 20:15.18 | gilgo | -_- |
| 20:15.22 | ChrisW | are the changelogs on packages.debian.org all fubar'ed? |
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| 20:15.25 | petemc | the link i added to the jdk factoid is very good |
| 20:15.33 | greycat | d0ugie: choose ALSA or OSS. If you use via82cxxx_audio, then it's not ALSA, so don't load the ALSA userspace programs. |
| 20:15.36 | simonrvn | !jdk |
| 20:15.37 | dpkg | jdk is, like, check out http://blackdown.org/java-linux/java2-status/INSTALL-1.4-j2sdk or you need to put main on the apt.sources line, or http://serios.net/content/debian/java.php |
| 20:15.45 | d0ugie | ok |
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| 20:16.05 | simonrvn | !jdk =~ s/apt.sources/sources.list/ |
| 20:16.06 | dpkg | OK, simonrvn |
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| 20:16.19 | Morgan | How can I get it so it just downloads Apache and installs it... |
| 20:16.29 | Morgan | Like it used to always do. |
| 20:16.42 | XTF | Remove the CD line from apt sources. |
| 20:16.45 | NaturalRoots | back |
| 20:16.49 | Morgan | k |
| 20:16.49 | NaturalRoots | fudido |
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| 20:17.02 | petemc | Morgan: man sources.list, mv /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/list.old; apt-setup |
| 20:17.20 | d0ugie | greycat: is there a specific package for oss drivers? |
| 20:17.27 | Morgan | I've removed the line now, gunna try it again |
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| 20:17.40 | petemc | Morgan: apt-get update |
| 20:17.44 | arnon | when should I use stow to install a package ? |
| 20:17.46 | Morgan | I don't even know how that ling got in there |
| 20:17.52 | Morgan | line* |
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| 20:18.04 | greycat | d0ugie: no. that's the beauty of OSS drivers - they're EASY and CLEAN. |
| 20:18.10 | Morgan | Gah, thanks you guys! :) |
| 20:18.11 | greycat | d0ugie: if you managed to load it, it will work. |
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| 20:19.45 | greycat | who said that?!? |
| 20:20.21 | greycat | ChrisW: the DSA contains information about how to get the fixed versions. |
| 20:20.56 | ChrisW | yeah, I did apt-get update && apt-get ugprade |
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| 20:21.29 | ChrisW | but my version numbers don;t seem to match those specified in the DSA |
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| 20:21.55 | ChrisW | also, I have exim-tls |
| 20:22.09 | ChrisW | which makes life intricate |
| 20:22.16 | FlexMaster | I use Kde 3.2 ,and i view some fonts too small, why ? |
| 20:22.33 | FlexMaster | i tried to control KDE center ,but nothing to do |
| 20:22.34 | ChrisW | I would like to check the changelog |
| 20:22.46 | ChrisW | but the changelog links on packages.debian.org for exim-tls are broken |
| 20:22.47 | yang | how do you lookup for executable files, once the package gets installed? |
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| 20:22.52 | ChrisW | anywhere else I can find them> |
| 20:22.57 | greycat | ChrisW: /usr/share/doc/exim-*/changelog.* |
| 20:22.59 | ChrisW | yang: locate? |
| 20:23.09 | greycat | yang: dpkg -L pkgname | grep bin | less |
| 20:23.22 | ChrisW | wha tdo the first tw ocoluimns in dpkg -l mean? |
| 20:23.23 | greycat | unless it's a game, in which case it may be in /usr/games instead of some dir with "bin" in it. |
| 20:23.38 | greycat | ChrisW: FAQ |
| 20:23.50 | ChrisW | I have: "rc exim 3.35-1woody2" and "ii exim-tls 3.35-3woody1" |
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| 20:23.57 | greycat | !faq |
| 20:23.58 | dpkg | The #debian FAQ is at http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ (still incomplete... original FAQ is at http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq/) |
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| 20:24.06 | ChrisW | now, I'm assuming that means I'm usign exim-tls, and exim was removed, right? |
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| 20:24.13 | greycat | ChrisW: yes |
| 20:24.24 | d0ugie | greycat: everything on the via82 sound seems set up, oss-common's on here, but i get the can't access /dev/dsp errors when i try to play audio.. piping urandom into dsp makes static even after i control c out of it, and the volume of that can be controlled by aumix.. but nothing in x |
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| 20:24.42 | greycat | d0ugie: did you add yourself to the audio group? does it work for root? |
| 20:24.50 | ChrisW | right, so now i just need ot check the DSA issue has been fixed in exim-tls 3.35-3woody1, right? |
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| 20:25.09 | d0ugie | didn't do any group audio adding, but it doesn't work in either root or a normal user |
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| 20:25.20 | nijan | excuse me, i install postfix-tls, but it not contain saslpasswd.. i read in a post on debian ml that i should download cyrus... but i think is really strange a such things.. isn't it? |
| 20:25.39 | ChrisW | what's that utility for reading text from .gz files? |
| 20:25.46 | nijan | zcat |
| 20:25.50 | ChrisW | thanks :-) |
| 20:26.10 | streuner | nijan: look into cyrus source... |
| 20:26.32 | nijan | uff.. |
| 20:26.54 | greycat | ChrisW: zless more typicallu |
| 20:26.55 | markybob | ChrisW, it's actually gzcat. found in package libcompress-zlib-perl |
| 20:26.55 | hacim | nijan: you don't need saslpasswd unless you plan on doing sasl authentiation |
| 20:26.58 | greycat | s/u$/y/ |
| 20:27.07 | ChrisW | zcat works for me :-) |
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| 20:27.33 | greycat | markybob: I doubt he wants to use perl modules to read changelog.Debian.gz |
| 20:27.42 | greycat | lynx or zless will do it |
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| 20:28.26 | petemc | eval {lesspip} |
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| 20:28.33 | petemc | gah, lesspipe |
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| 20:29.27 | ChrisW | btw: the changelog for exim-tls doesn't seem to menion either of the recent CAN's for exim |
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| 20:29.43 | ChrisW | does that mean it's nto affected by them or that the yhaven't been fixed? |
| 20:30.09 | ChrisW | and if they haven't been fixed, what's the "right" thign to do? |
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| 20:31.13 | MiXeN_dK | can i change the size of a ReiserFS-partition, and how do i do so, if i can? |
| 20:31.28 | l^rchkrn | resize_reiserfs |
| 20:31.37 | guk | What is the command to reconfigure X via apt-get ? dpkg-reconfigure x-window-system or somthing ? |
| 20:31.44 | l^rchkrn | MiXeN_dK: I tried it once, but it corrupted the disk, so backup first. |
| 20:31.46 | caphuso | guk: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 20:31.54 | guk | thanks |
| 20:32.35 | MiXeN_dK | l^rchkrn: I've tried that, but it says "Can't find mount entry" |
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| 20:33.08 | l^rchkrn | MiXeN_dK: Dunno. man resize_reiserfs |
| 20:33.11 | l^rchkrn | Sorry... |
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| 20:33.34 | MiXeN_dK | l^rchkrn No helt to get in the man |
| 20:33.41 | FieldySnuts | engrish? |
| 20:33.49 | l^rchkrn | 8-| |
| 20:35.14 | linagee | did anyone read about the free giant shrimp? today only from 2pm - 5pm. http://www.longjohnsilver.com/press/freeshrimp.htm |
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| 20:35.55 | FieldySnuts | !spam |
| 20:35.56 | dpkg | hmm... spam is a preferred environment. SPAM; Shut up, You damn Vikings! SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM, or to destroy it, try spamassassin (spamd+spamc) , razor or crm114 (but be ready to train it for a week) |
| 20:36.07 | FieldySnuts | hm didn't know it was that long |
| 20:36.10 | sussudio | linagee: what the fuck does that have to do with debian? |
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| 20:36.31 | linagee | sussudio: mmm. debian and shrimp go great together. :) |
| 20:36.37 | knix | hahaha |
| 20:36.42 | linagee | sussudio: no, i was just expecting a slashdot article and saw none |
| 20:36.50 | l^rchkrn | No. Debian and giant trolls go great togetha. |
| 20:36.52 | FieldySnuts | !gamp linagee |
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| 20:37.17 | linagee | sussudio: see, the point is to see how many people can take advantage of their free offer to see how many people can fit through the door |
| 20:37.26 | duzao | someone knows where can I find a arcserve crack for linux |
| 20:37.32 | linagee | FieldySnuts: a gay midget porn? for me!? thank you!!! :) |
| 20:37.33 | FieldySnuts | !warez |
| 20:37.33 | dpkg | methinks warez is what GNU/Linux do not need to run their computers and talk about in mundane ubergeek parties. http://www.little-gamers.com/comics/20011214.gif, or http://www.blerp.org/warez/ |
| 20:37.39 | sussudio | linagee: whoa. you're a bad little troll. you made caphuso say fuck many times. |
| 20:37.42 | hyksos | hi, ttyS0 is the lpt port with 25 pins, how is the com port accessed where i can put on my mouse? |
| 20:38.06 | l^rchkrn | warez is also ftp://::1:21/ |
| 20:38.06 | greycat | hyksos: no, ttyS0 is not the lpt port. |
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| 20:38.21 | duzao | !warez |
| 20:38.21 | dpkg | i heard warez is what GNU/Linux do not need to run their computers and talk about in mundane ubergeek parties. http://www.little-gamers.com/comics/20011214.gif, or http://www.blerp.org/warez/ |
| 20:38.25 | greycat | l^rchkrn: you have to prefix it with "dpkg " |
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| 20:38.36 | l^rchkrn | greycat: No thanks |
| 20:38.38 | FieldySnuts | could we get rid of the warez kiddie.. |
| 20:38.44 | l^rchkrn | It would be too dull to add it |
| 20:39.01 | greycat | FieldySnuts: you're the one that triggered the bot... |
| 20:39.09 | FieldySnuts | apt: dns warez.dal.net |
| 20:39.12 | apt | FieldySnuts: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
| 20:39.16 | FieldySnuts | heh |
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| 20:39.28 | sap | when installing X i chose to handle user access to X via debconf. as a non root user i can't start x. how do I grant permission to non root users? |
| 20:39.33 | zinx | greycat: in response to duzao wanting a crack :x |
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| 20:39.41 | greycat | sap: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-common |
| 20:39.54 | duzao | [zinx] an arcserve crack hehehe |
| 20:39.58 | FieldySnuts | see. |
| 20:40.00 | ChrisW | anyone anyone using exim-tls here? |
| 20:40.02 | greycat | zinx: right, but triggering the bot under those circumstances leads to copy-cat bot abuse... |
| 20:40.08 | zinx | :x |
| 20:40.15 | zinx | greycat: not the point, though :) |
| 20:40.21 | FieldySnuts | being a warez kiddie is a lesser offense i guess, i'll remember that |
| 20:40.26 | greycat | duzao: final warning: warez are NOT on topic here. |
| 20:40.33 | FieldySnuts | ok i take that back then |
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| 20:40.39 | hyksos | greycat: hm /dev/ttyS0 is the port with 25 pins |
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| 20:40.46 | duzao | [greycat] _I_ |
| 20:40.49 | FieldySnuts | hell, i think it's against freenode policy period |
| 20:40.49 | greycat | hyksos: or 9 pins, yes. Depends on the mobo. |
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| 20:40.56 | greycat | hyksos: in any case, it's your RS-232 serial port |
| 20:41.08 | zinx | FieldySnuts: it is |
| 20:41.09 | greycat | hyksos: not to be confused with the 25-pin *parallel* port. |
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| 20:41.23 | hyksos | but how do i access the other com port? |
| 20:41.24 | sussudio | that was stupid. it's !list, not !warez |
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| 20:41.30 | greycat | hyksos: ttyS1, ttyS2, etc. |
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| 20:41.47 | FieldySnuts | @find ereet-exploits.exe.zip.rar.arj |
| 20:41.58 | greycat | you forgot .zoo |
| 20:42.01 | FieldySnuts | oh yeah |
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| 20:42.10 | FieldySnuts | and whatever that mac one is |
| 20:42.14 | FieldySnuts | hqx? |
| 20:42.14 | simonrvn | sit |
| 20:42.16 | sussudio | nobody uses zoo unless they have an amiga 500 |
| 20:42.17 | greycat | .hex.stuffit or something |
| 20:42.17 | xenohugs | The URL in the !warez info that points to the gif image should be changed to http://www.little-gamers.com/index.php?strip_id=275 |
| 20:42.19 | l^rchkrn | Whats !list? |
| 20:42.21 | Zenethian | stuffit and sit |
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| 20:42.29 | FieldySnuts | l^rchkrn: warez child command |
| 20:42.31 | greycat | l^rchkrn: something that asks the whole channel to emit lists of shared files. |
| 20:42.43 | FieldySnuts | warez.dal.net has address 127.0.0.1 *giggle* |
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| 20:42.46 | l^rchkrn | :-D |
| 20:42.50 | simonrvn | FieldySnuts: duh ;) |
| 20:42.52 | sussudio | FieldySnuts: they found you out. |
| 20:42.56 | FieldySnuts | again |
| 20:42.59 | sussudio | !qotd9 |
| 20:42.59 | dpkg | <caphuso> linagee: so, now would be a good time to start reading the fucking manual before i start fucking you |
| 20:43.05 | FieldySnuts | hahahah |
| 20:43.06 | sussudio | (real quote) |
| 20:43.06 | FieldySnuts | damn |
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| 20:43.16 | streuner | haha |
| 20:43.24 | FieldySnuts | !qotd7 |
| 20:43.25 | dpkg | < bghfhfg> Does Debian have a compiler that generates DOS code? |
| 20:43.29 | FieldySnuts | ... |
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| 20:43.42 | simonrvn | @qotd3 |
| 20:43.43 | ravenbird | karsten | mwilson: ...and GNOME sets the bozo bit. |
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| 20:43.51 | l^rchkrn | lol |
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| 20:43.55 | simonrvn | @qoty3 |
| 20:43.55 | ravenbird | < Harpy> could you give me some pointers.. how could i fix my debian installation using knoppix? i removed libc6 using apt and it somehow stopped working |
| 20:43.57 | l^rchkrn | Who edits it? |
| 20:44.08 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 20:44.11 | FieldySnuts | !qotd10 |
| 20:44.27 | l^rchkrn | FieldySnuts: loser |
| 20:44.27 | ChrisW | @qoty1 |
| 20:44.32 | FieldySnuts | !moron l^rchkrn |
| 20:44.34 | dpkg | l^rchkrn: You are moron #45 |
| 20:44.35 | ravenbird | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'ereet-exploits.exe.zip.rar.arj' returned no results. |
| 20:44.40 | FieldySnuts | ravenbird: HEH |
| 20:44.40 | ravenbird | many would say that heh is #debian's favourite word, fieldysnuts, or http://odinnet.ath.cx/~erik/heh |
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| 20:44.56 | FieldySnuts | no kidding |
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| 20:45.00 | FieldySnuts | that took about 5 minutes |
| 20:45.17 | FieldySnuts | must be coz i forgot .zoo |
| 20:45.17 | simonrvn | rather busy here |
| 20:45.22 | FieldySnuts | .zoo.hqx.sit.... |
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| 20:45.34 | l^rchkrn | .lhz.ace.pak |
| 20:45.37 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 20:45.41 | simonrvn | also package list hadn't been updated since 2 days ago |
| 20:45.43 | sussudio | arc.sea.lzh |
| 20:45.45 | l^rchkrn | .uc2! |
| 20:45.49 | simonrvn | .Z |
| 20:45.53 | Zenethian | heh uc2... |
| 20:45.55 | FieldySnuts | oh god .Z |
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| 20:46.04 | Zenethian | the UltraCompressor! :) |
| 20:46.06 | sussudio | i had ARK on the c64 |
| 20:46.06 | FieldySnuts | .yenc |
| 20:46.08 | Zenethian | did we get bz2 as well? |
| 20:46.12 | l^rchkrn | Zenethian: Yea that was cool. |
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| 20:46.21 | l^rchkrn | .yac |
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| 20:46.32 | FieldySnuts | .badger |
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| 20:46.38 | l^rchkrn | .parrot |
| 20:46.43 | l^rchkrn | :-P |
| 20:46.48 | FieldySnuts | .this.is.an.ex-parrot |
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| 20:47.15 | FieldySnuts | if you hadn't have nailed him to the perch, he'd be pushing up the daisies! |
| 20:47.23 | labrat | what is the debianish way to toogle tcp listening on X ? |
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| 20:47.34 | bolete | modprobe aha152x fails. It finds the card, then says this: |
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| 20:47.46 | simonrvn | don't paste here. #flood |
| 20:47.46 | bolete | kernel: aha152x: BIOS test: passed, detected 0 controller(s) |
| 20:47.46 | ChrisW | hmmm ,doesn't look like exim-tls has been updated to cover the recent DSA 501-1 |
| 20:47.54 | ChrisW | what do you guys reckon I should do? |
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| 20:47.59 | sussudio | !punish win98 for having a default 80 connections limit for tcp/ip |
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| 20:48.02 | simonrvn | use security sources |
| 20:48.19 | ChrisW | sussudio: I believe it's not a "default", it's a limit :-( |
| 20:48.27 | sussudio | ChrisW: no, you can edit it |
| 20:48.38 | ChrisW | simonrvn: I think I'm doing that already, how can I check? |
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| 20:48.49 | simonrvn | look in sources.list |
| 20:49.00 | ChrisW | sussudio: really? cool... how? I know someone who'll be very happy to hear that... |
| 20:49.07 | ChrisW | you use Python? heard of Tim Peters? ;-) |
| 20:49.16 | sussudio | ChrisW: google for it... |
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| 20:49.24 | l^rchkrn | !wtf Tim Peters |
| 20:49.38 | yang | I type export DISPLAY=LANip:0.0 on one and xhost + on other side, but I still cant display picture remotelly? |
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| 20:50.27 | labrat | yang tcp/ip enabled on X ? |
| 20:50.38 | The_Vulture | yang: xhost+ is evil, use X11Forwarding over ssh, it's simple and works |
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| 20:50.53 | FlexMaster | Under Kde When I use X application (not Kde app) fonts are very small , why |
| 20:50.54 | The_Vulture | ~tell yang about sshx |
| 20:50.57 | FlexMaster | ? |
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| 20:51.43 | Zenethian | FlexMaster: maybe they can't use TTF thus your default font doesn't apply to them and they go back to fixed or something. |
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| 20:52.14 | d0ugie | i got my sound working in xmms/esound output, but as any other user it don't work ... i added the user to audio |
| 20:52.18 | ChrisW | simonrvn: okay, got the sources list, what should i have in it? |
| 20:52.32 | ChrisW | I see "deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main" |
| 20:52.38 | ChrisW | that seems to be right, yes? |
| 20:52.39 | streuner | d0ugie: lock out and back in |
| 20:52.51 | d0ugie | k.. |
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| 20:55.10 | scuervo | WHere can I find a list of the default debian kernel options (the ones selected to compile the default kernel installed for example)? |
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| 20:56.20 | toubsu | how can i use cut to cut of the last char of each line |
| 20:56.29 | toubsu | off* |
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| 20:58.01 | FlexMaster | Zenethian: How can I fix it ? |
| 20:58.50 | ChrisW | Hi there, my server gives "2.4.25" from uname -a, do I need to upgrade to address any security issues? |
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| 20:59.43 | Zenethian | FlexMaster: you can't, really. |
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| 21:01.01 | brunner | does anyone here know of an audio program for gnu/linux that has the ability to generate multifrequency tones? |
| 21:01.36 | Lame_Duck_ | Hi, I install Kernel 2.6.5 with "apt-get". But my Keyboard ( USB ) isn't functioning. |
| 21:01.43 | palomer | 2.6.6 is out |
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| 21:02.26 | toubsu | is this thing on? |
| 21:02.37 | ChrisW | sadly not for me ;-) |
| 21:02.41 | l^rchkrn | brunner: ? |
| 21:02.49 | l^rchkrn | brunner: Tone Generator plugin for XMMS |
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| 21:03.02 | l^rchkrn | brunner: Nyquist for more serious things... |
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| 21:04.28 | sussudio | ChrisW: cat /proc/version |
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| 21:05.43 | ChrisW | sussudio: Linux version 2.4.25 |
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| 21:06.42 | l^rchkrn | ChrisW: Google for Linux 2.4.25 security vulnerabilities. If 0 results, you're safe ;-) |
| 21:06.44 | csaba198 | hello! Anybody could help me how can i make work a sys[7018] sound card in a notebook? |
| 21:06.52 | l^rchkrn | csaba198: Szia. |
| 21:07.02 | csaba198 | l^rchkrn: Szia! |
| 21:07.06 | l^rchkrn | :-) |
| 21:07.41 | l^rchkrn | csaba198: Did you compile your kernel? |
| 21:07.46 | l^rchkrn | Oh... |
| 21:07.54 | csaba198 | sure. |
| 21:07.56 | ChrisW | well, I thought I read something, which is why I'm looking to upgrade |
| 21:08.00 | somiaj__ | ChrisW: check the topic...and get 2.4.26...(: |
| 21:08.04 | ChrisW | thought you guys would be a good place to ask... |
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| 21:08.32 | to-to | re |
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| 21:08.39 | ChrisW | somiaj: right, that's what Ithought... |
| 21:08.47 | ChrisW | nwo i need to figure out how to do that :-S |
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| 21:10.15 | ChrisW | where'd I get the appropriate source for 2.4.26? |
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| 21:10.45 | nkuttler | ChrisW: kernel.org? apt-get kernel-source-foo? |
| 21:10.51 | jbr | ChrisW: there's a Debian version at http://packages.debian.org/kernel-source-2.4.26 |
| 21:10.56 | somiaj | ChrisW: kernel.org (it may be in sarge but don't know, also the 2.4.18 kernels from security.debian.org for woody are all patched agasint any known exploit) |
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| 21:12.00 | tuxillo | Anyone that uses vesafb? |
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| 21:12.09 | ChrisW | please bear with my noobishness :-( |
| 21:12.34 | ChrisW | My instructions from when I did this last time start "tar -xjvf linux-2.4.25.tar.bz2" |
| 21:12.47 | ChrisW | how, where did I get that bz2 from, do you guys reckon? :'( |
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| 21:13.17 | somiaj | !tell tuxillo -about polls |
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| 21:13.24 | somiaj | tuxillo: just ask your question if ya have a problem. |
| 21:13.46 | shaleh | ChrisW: it comes from kernel-source-version usually |
| 21:13.48 | tuxillo | Im sorry about polls |
| 21:14.05 | tuxillo | I can't change my vesafb refresh rate :( |
| 21:14.09 | ChrisW | okay, so the 2.4.26 from kernel.org is safe t ouse? |
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| 21:14.27 | somiaj | ChrisW: the bz2 file comes from the kernel-source-version, though you can download bz2 tars of the source kernel.org |
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| 21:14.52 | kevanus | hi |
| 21:14.54 | ChrisW | what's the difference between the kernel-source-version and the kernel.org version? |
| 21:14.55 | shaleh | ChrisW: Debian is still linux, you can easily use the kernel.org kernel if you like. |
| 21:14.56 | somiaj | tuxillo: I'd look into fbset, that will at least lead ya in the right direction for messing with refresh rate settings. |
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| 21:15.02 | ChrisW | how'd I get the kernel-source-version? |
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| 21:15.22 | somiaj | ChrisW: the one from debian has thrid party patches (not from kernel.org) that debian applys to the source.... |
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| 21:15.30 | abrotman | kernel-source-x-x-x is a package usually |
| 21:15.41 | ChrisW | so how'd I get it? |
| 21:15.43 | somiaj | ChrisW: apt-get install kernel-source-2.4.26 (or replace 2.4.26 with what ever version number you want (and is avialble) |
| 21:15.44 | tuxillo | somiaj: fbset do not change resolution at all |
| 21:15.50 | ChrisW | I shall try that... |
| 21:16.09 | somiaj | tuxillo: it should, read the man page, it tells about the settings for what you can change it to |
| 21:16.15 | ChrisW | E: Couldn't find package kernel-source-2.4.26 |
| 21:16.18 | ChrisW | what does that mean? |
| 21:16.26 | somiaj | ChrisW: are you running woody? (stable) |
| 21:16.38 | ChrisW | I think so, how do I tripple check? |
| 21:16.38 | helix | ChrisW: you get three guesses as to what it means |
| 21:16.46 | simonrvn | well, for one thing it didn't find it, and for another, it won't find it 'cause you're on woody |
| 21:16.47 | abrotman | helix: and then what? |
| 21:16.52 | lanchow | does someone knows how to make the cursor to flick slowly, it makes me crazy |
| 21:16.55 | ChrisW | helxi: yeah, but you know what my question meant ;-) |
| 21:16.57 | tuxillo | somiaj: It changes my resolution with vooodofb (for example) but with vesafb it doesn't |
| 21:17.11 | helix | ChrisW: well, but the answer is still obvious |
| 21:17.13 | ChrisW | simon: okay, so what do I do? stick wit h2.4.25 or what? |
| 21:17.16 | abrotman | ChrisW: apt-cache search kernel-source |
| 21:17.17 | helix | abrotman: then MEEP ATTACK! |
| 21:17.27 | helix | ChrisW: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 21:17.30 | abrotman | meep attack? .. like a MOW attack? |
| 21:17.36 | somiaj | ChrisW: you could cat /etc/debian_version (or check the libc6 version or your apt sources) but if your running woody you can only get the 2.4.18 kernel, if you want the 2.4.26 source you'll have to grab it from kernel.org or packages.debian.org |
| 21:17.36 | caphuso | tuxillo: face reality: vesafb sucks |
| 21:17.39 | helix | abrotman: meep is sussudio's small mouse |
| 21:17.40 | l^rchkrn | !meow |
| 21:17.42 | ChrisW | 3.0 |
| 21:17.49 | l^rchkrn | 3.0 = woody |
| 21:17.52 | abrotman | helix: i thought it was a cat noise |
| 21:18.00 | ChrisW | right, but I have the 2.4.25 kernel |
| 21:18.09 | ChrisW | does that mean I must have got it off kernel.org? |
| 21:18.17 | somiaj | ChrisW: then you got the source from some other place besides the woody sourcse. |
| 21:18.19 | helix | ChrisW: you don't know where your kernel came from? |
| 21:18.22 | simonrvn | ChrisW: *you* would know that |
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| 21:18.32 | tuxillo | caphuso: That is another topic ;) |
| 21:18.32 | gilgo | where is the plugins directory for mozilla? firefox? |
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| 21:18.41 | simonrvn | gilgo: make one |
| 21:18.45 | caphuso | tuxillo: no, it's not |
| 21:18.54 | simonrvn | cd ~/.mozilla; mkdir plugins |
| 21:19.02 | ChrisW | helxi: no, it's the one part of the isntructions I didn't keep when I upgraded in March |
| 21:19.03 | sussudio | helix: ies not mouse, ies ghampster |
| 21:19.11 | helix | sussudio: ah, right :) |
| 21:19.12 | nkuttler | gilgo: or /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/ |
| 21:19.19 | lanchow | does someone knows how to make the cursor to flick slowly, it makes me crazy |
| 21:19.26 | somiaj | gilgo: ~/.firefox for fire fox, or /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins (global) |
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| 21:19.29 | tuxillo | caphuso: When my voodoofb does some strange things you must use other fb :P |
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| 21:19.53 | ChrisW | The source file is linux-2.4.25.tar.bz2 |
| 21:19.58 | ChrisW | what does htta sounds like to you guys? |
| 21:20.00 | ChrisW | kernel.org? |
| 21:20.05 | simonrvn | mainline |
| 21:20.07 | l^rchkrn | ChrisW: No. |
| 21:20.11 | caphuso | tuxillo: yes, but complaining on IRC that vesafb can't be changed with fbset isn't going to help |
| 21:20.14 | simonrvn | l^rchkrn: yes |
| 21:20.14 | somiaj | tuxillo: frame buffers suck in general, if fbset isn't changing resolutions, something might be wrong or not set up correctly...though I can't help ya much furter, I stoped using framebuffers years ago. |
| 21:20.21 | l^rchkrn | ChrisW: How can you forget where the kernel is from? |
| 21:20.25 | ChrisW | l^rchkrn: the nwhere? |
| 21:20.29 | caphuso | somiaj: he's using vesafb |
| 21:20.33 | simonrvn | ChrisW: yes from kernel.org |
| 21:20.34 | scuervo | WHere can I find a list of the default debian kernel options (the ones selected to compile the default kernel installed for example)? |
| 21:20.36 | l^rchkrn | ChrisW: Anywhere. |
| 21:20.40 | ChrisW | l^rchkrn: because I don't only upgrade kernels with my life ;-) |
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| 21:20.44 | simonrvn | l^rchkrn: hush you |
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| 21:20.47 | somiaj | caphuso: its just not possible to use fbset with vesafb (didn't nkow that) |
| 21:20.49 | ghost | hello |
| 21:20.49 | caphuso | scuervo: /boot/config-* |
| 21:20.51 | nkuttler | scuervo: /boot/config-foo |
| 21:21.09 | ChrisW | simonrvn: thanks, so getting the 2.4.26 kernel from kernel.org would be the "right" thing to do? |
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| 21:21.22 | scuervo | thank you |
| 21:21.33 | simonrvn | ChrisW: you can get the kernel-source from pdo, or you can get it from kernel.org. up to you |
| 21:21.43 | ChrisW | what's the difference? |
| 21:21.53 | somiaj | ChrisW: and you do know how to configure and compile a kernel? |
| 21:21.55 | ghost | i've a question concerning networking: i've setup my wireless network in my desktop pc to ad-hoc mode but how do i make a bridge from it to my normal (wired) network? |
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| 21:22.01 | simonrvn | that was explained to you earlier |
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| 21:22.04 | somiaj | ChrisW: as I told ya, the debian kernls contain patches on top of the kernel.org ones. |
| 21:22.06 | l^rchkrn | ChrisW: debian kernels have patches. |
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| 21:22.17 | l^rchkrn | ChrisW: sometimes security patches too... |
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| 21:22.24 | jbr | ChrisW: also (maybe confusing you further), are you aware of (the package) kernel-package? |
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| 21:22.28 | ChrisW | right, but can I put the debian 2.4.26 kernel on 3.0? |
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| 21:22.34 | jbr | ChrisW: sure |
| 21:22.40 | ChrisW | jbr: no mroe confusing please ;-) |
| 21:22.43 | ChrisW | jbr: how? |
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| 21:22.52 | ChrisW | apt-get install don't like it ;-) |
| 21:23.05 | l^rchkrn | ChrisW: What does it say? |
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| 21:23.11 | nkuttler | ChrisW: /msg dpkg kp |
| 21:23.15 | somiaj | ChrisW: from the sounds of it, you do better with pre compiled kernels, why not just get a pre made 2.4.18 kernel from sercurity.debian.org with apt get? |
| 21:23.16 | tuxillo | Thank you guys, caphuso and somiaj :) |
| 21:23.26 | Puggs | jbr, ChrisW: no you cant, you can put the kernel.org 2.4.26 on woody, but only debian 2.4.18 |
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| 21:23.44 | jbr | Puggs: then how did I do it? |
| 21:23.44 | nkuttler | Puggs: what are you smoking? |
| 21:23.52 | ChrisW | somiaj: 'cos the machine isn't set up like that, and I don't have th foo to fiddle, so I just try and keep with what was done before and get the neewer version :-/ |
| 21:23.53 | somiaj | Puggs: why can't you put a 2.4.26 kernel on woody? |
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| 21:24.18 | somiaj | ChrisW: getting a newer source version and compiling sounds like a lot to fiddle with to me..... |
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| 21:24.21 | Puggs | huh, is wwoody only has 2.4.18, how can you put a DEBIAN 2.4.18 kernel on it? |
| 21:24.29 | helix | somiaj: you can. i think his point was that you can't use the kernel-images for 2.4.26 on woody |
| 21:24.33 | jbr | Puggs there's a Debian version at http://packages.debian.org/kernel-source-2.4.26 |
| 21:24.50 | somiaj | Puggs: you can download the soruce code and compile one yourself. |
| 21:24.52 | Puggs | jbr is that precompiled |
| 21:25.02 | Puggs | yes i know you can cmpile it yourself |
| 21:25.04 | somiaj | Puggs: 'source'...take a guess |
| 21:25.13 | jbr | Puggs: remember I just mentioned kernel-package? |
| 21:25.14 | helix | somiaj: he's talking about kernel images, i think |
| 21:25.17 | gilgo | I installed the java stuff and plugins for mozilla but it still doesn't work. is there another thing dpkg can tell me? |
| 21:25.19 | helix | .. |
| 21:25.22 | Puggs | nm |
| 21:25.40 | somiaj | helix: yea, I tried to explain to him how the 2.4.18 kernels from sdo are patched..(:, no he is talking about source, he has the linux-2.4.25.tar.bz2 file. |
| 21:25.40 | Puggs | too many people all confusing each other, or just me.... |
| 21:25.51 | simonrvn | just you |
| 21:25.56 | Puggs | lol :) |
| 21:26.01 | helix | somiaj: no, not ChrisW - i'm talking about Puggs |
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| 21:26.07 | nkuttler | gilgo: /msg dpkg java-plugin-gcc3 ? |
| 21:26.19 | somiaj | helix: oh...(:, now I'm confused...I think I'll just go get a drink..(: |
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| 21:26.23 | jbr | ChrisW: see - confusing stuff, sorry I mentioned it |
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| 21:26.29 | xtapo | ok |
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| 21:26.32 | gilgo | he asked me if I was smoking crack |
| 21:26.38 | xtapo | I need help with fdisk. Lots of help. |
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| 21:26.48 | nkuttler | gilgo: typo |
| 21:26.55 | simonrvn | just ask. and that doesn't mean ask *me*. ask the channel |
| 21:27.06 | xtapo | My friend needs to delete all linux partitions from his computer, can someone guide me through this? |
| 21:27.21 | nkuttler | xtapo: we won't help you with _that_ :) |
| 21:27.37 | helix | xtapo: there should be a way to highlight them and an option that says 'delete' |
| 21:27.41 | xtapo | (Not to remove linux. :-P ) |
| 21:27.42 | helix | or something similar |
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| 21:27.43 | helix | iirc |
| 21:27.49 | xtapo | I'm using fdisk to do it. |
| 21:27.51 | somiaj | xtapo: suggest to your friend to get something like partition magic....might be easier for him to use than fdisk |
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| 21:27.58 | helix | xtapo: yes, i'm talking about fdisk |
| 21:28.05 | xtapo | No, |
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| 21:28.13 | xtapo | He's stuck using the linux fdisk. |
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| 21:28.23 | xtapo | Because he's stuck using Linux, long story. |
| 21:28.26 | shaleh | xtapo: simple. press 'p'. Then use 'd' to remove the partitions listed. |
| 21:28.28 | helix | ... |
| 21:28.29 | xtapo | And emachines sucks, never get one. |
| 21:28.34 | simonrvn | "stuck with linux"? wtf |
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| 21:28.45 | xtapo | He can't boot into windows, grub broke itself. |
| 21:28.50 | somiaj | so will how will removing all of his linux partitions |
| 21:28.51 | helix | xtapo: even so. fdisk makes deleting partitions pretty easy. what are you confused about? |
| 21:28.51 | xtapo | Lilo won't install. |
| 21:29.00 | somiaj | help |
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| 21:29.14 | xtapo | There's no fixmbr for the emachines CD, and the restore won't work if there are non-dos partitions on the machine. |
| 21:29.23 | helix | ew |
| 21:29.27 | csaba198 | sajnos abbol is van egy rakas. |
| 21:29.27 | simonrvn | that's just plain borked |
| 21:29.34 | xtapo | Helix: When I go to d, it asks me to delete a partition, number 1-5. |
| 21:29.38 | helix | sounds like a good reason not to use windows anymore.. :) |
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| 21:29.40 | xtapo | Helix: What number? |
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| 21:29.42 | somiaj | fdisk should be able to install a standard mbr |
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| 21:29.54 | somiaj | lilo can too if he has that on his comptuer |
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| 21:29.56 | helix | xtapo: no idea. i don't know which partition is which. |
| 21:29.59 | bessel | Is there a MSN messenger client for linux? |
| 21:30.09 | simonrvn | @tell bessel -about search |
| 21:30.10 | helix | bessel: amsn or gaim |
| 21:30.16 | somiaj | bazou: there are a few, I use gaim (it does msn/yahoo/icq/aol/etc) |
| 21:30.23 | Reinaldo | hi! how to burn clonecd image? |
| 21:30.25 | Puggs | bessel: kopete |
| 21:30.27 | helix | !lart somiaj's tab completion |
| 21:30.33 | Supaplex | or any jabber client, if the jabberd supports it |
| 21:30.35 | bessel | Thank you so much |
| 21:30.46 | d0ugie | +- |
| 21:30.58 | xtapo | Helix: Sorry, should have worded better. I'm saying, what do the numbers come from? |
| 21:31.04 | ChrisW | who? me? |
| 21:31.06 | somiaj | simonrvn: your not the first and probably won't be the last..(: |
| 21:31.19 | simonrvn | somiaj: my typing sucks. join the club ;) |
| 21:31.27 | Lame_Duck_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:31.28 | xtapo | Helix: If I print the partition table, see that the second in the list is one I want to delete, and select 2, does it delete the second one? |
| 21:31.29 | somiaj | simonrvn: I wish I could blame it on my typing..(": |
| 21:31.32 | ChrisW | what's the difference between 2.4.26-1 and 2.4.26-2? |
| 21:31.34 | helix | xtapo: i forgot how ugly fdisk was ;) |
| 21:31.39 | helix | xtapo: yes |
| 21:31.40 | relbs | what's a good channel to ask bluetooth questions on? #bluez seems a little dead... |
| 21:31.41 | xtapo | Lame: I can't get into DOS. |
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| 21:31.46 | KrytenX | makes sense doesn't it |
| 21:31.48 | csaba198 | ez ugyanaz, mint a grep snd modules.dep | grep sis? |
| 21:31.52 | simonrvn | ChrisW: the -2 is newer than the -1. duh |
| 21:32.00 | ChrisW | that it? |
| 21:32.02 | ChrisW | cool :-) |
| 21:32.10 | xtapo | Helix. Thank you. But if I print the table again, it's still listed. What do I need to do for changes to take effect? |
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| 21:32.20 | ChrisW | one has a testing label, one has a unstable label, tht thjrew me :-P |
| 21:32.27 | simonrvn | ChrisW: usually because of various problems having been fixed in the newer version. that applies overall, not just kernel packages |
| 21:32.28 | helix | xtapo: hmm, been a while - there should be an option to "write" the changes though |
| 21:32.33 | ChrisW | helix: someone's phone ring? ;-) |
| 21:32.39 | helix | xtapo: i'm not sure why it's still showing up |
| 21:32.40 | Puggs | xtapo: w to write (or h for help) |
| 21:32.47 | simonrvn | ChrisW: oh, then that's because one's present in sarge, the other in sid |
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| 21:32.55 | helix | ChrisW: oh dear, the cell phones? nah, this is the actual music :) |
| 21:33.17 | ChrisW | helix: well in that case, I guess 'cos bumblebees are kidna repetitive ;-) |
| 21:33.22 | helix | ah, new song. good thing. |
| 21:33.24 | ChrisW | my mind boggles at all the differnte debian labels |
| 21:33.28 | ChrisW | version numbers |
| 21:33.29 | ChrisW | names |
| 21:33.31 | ChrisW | statuses |
| 21:33.34 | simonrvn | you'll get to know them in time |
| 21:33.37 | ChrisW | sheesh, talk about complexity |
| 21:33.42 | helix | ChrisW: computers are bad for the number averse ;) |
| 21:33.46 | ChrisW | my poor little brain can't cope :-/ |
| 21:33.55 | helix | ChrisW: it gets easier |
| 21:34.04 | c43 | Hi, apt-get keeps complaining that my status file contains a section with an empty Package field - any idea why and what I could do about it? |
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| 21:34.18 | tarzeau | helix: bom dia |
| 21:34.24 | ChrisW | anyyyyyway, so, 2.4.26-2 kernel, or 2.4.26 from kernel.org... what do you guys recommend? |
| 21:34.26 | helix | tarzeau: gruezi wohl! |
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| 21:34.35 | simonrvn | c43: use the status-old file. sounds like it's a little borked, your status file |
| 21:35.12 | thoreauputic | ChrisW: apt-cache search kernel-image, maybe |
| 21:35.14 | somiaj | ChrisW: what ever suits your fancy do you want a 'pure' linux kernel as the kernel.org people make or one with patches on top of it by the wonderful people of debian. |
| 21:35.25 | simonrvn | thoreauputic: he's on woody |
| 21:35.32 | segurmelis | hello guys |
| 21:35.33 | thoreauputic | ah |
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| 21:35.45 | c43 | simonrvn: ah, that seemed to work, thanks |
| 21:35.46 | simonrvn | thoreauputic: he's checking out PDO kernel images ATM |
| 21:35.47 | peterS | ChrisW: I go straight from kernel.org |
| 21:35.49 | peterS | ChrisW: but I'm not you |
| 21:36.12 | simonrvn | i'd use k.o too, but that's also me |
| 21:36.21 | segurmelis | i have installed freeradius with apt-get install freeradius, but now i need to compile freeradius with (--with-experimental-modules) can anyone help me ? |
| 21:36.34 | ChrisW | since by the looks of it, that's what my hosting people did for 2.4.24, and wha tI did for 2.4.25 |
| 21:36.35 | peterS | ChrisW: good call. but make it http://www.uk.kernel.org/ or something (: |
| 21:36.47 | ChrisW | peter: why? |
| 21:36.53 | peterS | ChrisW: should arrive a bit faster (: |
| 21:37.10 | simonrvn | segurmelis: apt-get source free-radius, and edit debian/rules. the sources files get put in ., so make yourself a dir to build from, like ~/src/ for example |
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| 21:37.23 | ChrisW | peters: 140KB/sec is fine for me ;-) |
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| 21:38.17 | c43 | bye, thank you |
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| 21:40.14 | segurmelis | simonrvn: E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list i think apt-get is confused |
| 21:40.20 | csaba198 | 213.178 |
| 21:40.22 | faxo | to upgrade from woody to sarge, do i need to update sourcelist to .... testing/non-us/main ? |
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| 21:40.58 | bessel | exit |
| 21:41.14 | menteco | I know nano, less and zless, but I need a simple command that just displays the content of a file, which one do you suggest? |
| 21:41.33 | somiaj | menteco: cat |
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| 21:42.04 | tzafrir | anybody here mount a share from XP with smbfs? |
| 21:42.09 | somiaj | menteco: tail and head could be ince if you just want to see the top or the bottom of it...though for biger text files I would suggest (z)less |
| 21:42.12 | simonrvn | segurmelis: deb-src |
| 21:42.17 | a1fa | what temperature should cpu run? |
| 21:42.32 | somiaj | tzafrir: yes, people have mounted XP shares with smbfs and smbmount. |
| 21:42.33 | simonrvn | segurmelis: usually the same sources as you have for deb lines works ok |
| 21:42.37 | menteco | somiaj: thanks |
| 21:42.39 | tzafrir | When I do that I have wierd issues with charsets |
| 21:42.45 | csaba198 | ssh 10.0.0.3 = guest :-). |
| 21:42.52 | a1fa | in celsius? |
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| 21:43.15 | somiaj | a1fa: mine runs from 47-55C.... |
| 21:43.21 | tzafrir | namely: I can't get Hebrew file names to show up properly (in UTF-8) |
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| 21:44.28 | simonrvn | tzafrir: get another font |
| 21:44.34 | ChrisW | Matt Zimmerman here? |
| 21:44.39 | simonrvn | tzafrir: or make one |
| 21:44.46 | a1fa | somiaj: at what d failure occurs? |
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| 21:45.20 | tzafrir | simonrvn, this is not a fonts issue. I can see other Hebrew utf8 chars |
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| 21:45.49 | tzafrir | furthermore, when I apply iconv -f 862, I get proper UTF-8 strings |
| 21:46.01 | simonrvn | tzafrir: oh file names.. i assume you set up LC_CTYPE and such? |
| 21:46.08 | croepha | where do i find the CVS of the Linux kernel? |
| 21:46.12 | tzafrir | he_IL.UTF-8 |
| 21:46.20 | yang | I am unable to enable X forwarding from one box to another |
| 21:46.32 | simonrvn | !tell yang -about sshx |
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| 21:46.40 | simonrvn | croepha: CVS? |
| 21:46.54 | croepha | yes, congruent versions system... |
| 21:46.55 | simonrvn | croepha: you mean bk? |
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| 21:47.04 | ChrisW | concurrent, surely? |
| 21:47.04 | simonrvn | s/?// |
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| 21:47.10 | croepha | simonrvn: what is bk? |
| 21:47.10 | peterS | yes, concurrent |
| 21:47.11 | simonrvn | concurrent |
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| 21:47.23 | peterS | croepha: bitkeeper. see www.bitmover.com |
| 21:47.27 | simonrvn | bitkeeper. and no, you don't want bk generally |
| 21:47.39 | k-god | How do you enable suexec in apache if you flubbed the question on install? |
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| 21:47.52 | simonrvn | k-god: mv suexec-disabled suexec |
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| 21:48.07 | k-god | dpkg-reconfigure. |
| 21:48.07 | k-god | Got it. |
| 21:48.07 | k-god | NM. |
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| 21:48.47 | jaxxan | hi ya'll |
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| 21:49.26 | sap | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:49.56 | tarzeau | sap: looks like it |
| 21:50.00 | tarzeau | sap: what arch you got? |
| 21:50.07 | sap | tarzeau: sparc |
| 21:50.12 | tzafrir | in samba 2.2 samba came with its own set of charsets definitions. |
| 21:50.15 | simonrvn | sap: yes. roll your own backports for anything !=x86 |
| 21:50.20 | tarzeau | sap: you could compile it yourself? |
| 21:50.21 | tzafrir | Is it still the case in samba3? |
| 21:50.27 | tarzeau | sap: apt-get source -b whatever ? |
| 21:50.28 | peterS | tzafrir: no, it uses iconv |
| 21:50.32 | sap | simonrvn, tarzeau: thanks |
| 21:50.45 | Joris | is there an open source alternative to vmware yet? |
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| 21:51.15 | Reinaldo | hi! how to burn clonecd (.ccd .img .sub) image? |
| 21:51.33 | Monteiro | anyone has put steam working with wine (running counter strike) ? |
| 21:51.36 | menteco | Can you tell me where's the syntax error here: |
| 21:51.38 | JoshH | http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35890 |
| 21:51.41 | JoshH | ROFL |
| 21:51.41 | menteco | <?php |
| 21:51.41 | menteco | `cd ..`; |
| 21:51.41 | menteco | `cd docutuxfiles`; |
| 21:51.42 | menteco | $output = `cat adblock.txt`; |
| 21:51.42 | menteco | echo $output; |
| 21:51.42 | menteco | ?> |
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| 21:52.15 | confrey | hi everubody |
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| 21:52.30 | karim__ | hello |
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| 21:52.58 | karim__ | is there some particular command to add to apt-spy for it to write in sources,list ? |
| 21:53.05 | karim__ | . |
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| 21:53.34 | tzafrir | mentor, each `command` runs in its own shell. So the 'cd' commands won't apply to the third command |
| 21:53.47 | simonrvn | he got kicked by the bot |
| 21:54.00 | karim__ | It do the benchmark, but it doesn't seem to write to file |
| 21:54.07 | tzafrir | menteco: each `command` runs in its own shell. So the 'cd' commands won't apply to the third command |
| 21:54.07 | simonrvn | @tell menteco -about flood |
| 21:54.24 | simonrvn | tzafrir: he-llooo, he got kicked by the bot |
| 21:54.32 | KrytenX | are there any mozilla plugins that let you view .doc's in the browser? |
| 21:55.00 | phogg | KrytenX: look up plugger |
| 21:55.15 | simonrvn | mozplugger too |
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| 21:55.49 | KrytenX | thanks |
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| 21:56.48 | ChrisW | hurm |
| 21:56.49 | tzafrir | so anybody here has an idea how can I debug my smbfs issue? |
| 21:56.58 | ChrisW | I cahnged lilo to use the 2.4.26 kernel I just compiled |
| 21:57.02 | csaba198 | tud listenelni 6000en az X- ed? |
| 21:57.03 | simonrvn | what's the question? |
| 21:57.10 | ChrisW | but I reboot and find myself stil lwith 2.4.25, what gives |
| 21:57.13 | simonrvn | csaba198: try english |
| 21:57.14 | ChrisW | ? |
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| 21:57.28 | karim__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:57.29 | simonrvn | ChrisW: you have to run lilo after editing it |
| 21:57.33 | karim__ | is there some particular command to add to apt-spy for it to write in sources,list ? |
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| 21:57.43 | simonrvn | @tell karim__ -about repeat |
| 21:57.46 | somiaj | ChrisW: did you rerun lilo after modifing lilo.conf |
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| 21:57.51 | ChrisW | simon: aha :-) |
| 21:57.54 | jbr | ChrisW: (lilo -v is more verbose) |
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| 21:58.00 | karim__ | simon I add no response from the irc server |
| 21:58.07 | ChrisW | right, so now i need to shit myself again when I type the magic word: "reboot" ;-) |
| 21:58.16 | simonrvn | (21:52) < karim__> is there some particular command to add to apt-spy for it to write in sources,list ? |
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| 21:58.21 | simonrvn | (21:53) < karim__> . |
| 21:58.23 | jem77 | Why does /var/log/syslog show that "root" logged in? I logged in as myself, however the tcpspy message displays root. |
| 21:58.32 | simonrvn | 5 fucking minutes ago |
| 21:58.32 | Monteiro | when i make startx in gnome, i can't acess my line command interface with control + alt + F1 , what it could be ? |
| 21:58.36 | LuisDog | can anyone help me install kernel 2.6.6 |
| 21:59.00 | simonrvn | LuisDog: no. don't play with fire if you don't know how. learn with 2.4 first |
| 21:59.06 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 21:59.16 | thoreauputic | Monteiro: try ctrl-alt-F2 |
| 21:59.19 | karim__ | simonrvn: yeah, but the channel wasn't sending back responses |
| 21:59.20 | tag | I'm trying to let a repository hook automatically restart a certain apache server under certain conditions and I cannot because as a user the process cannot bind port 80, I tried setting the control script to run suid root...thinking that in theory this would give it the permissions to run an app that binds port 80 but this is not the case |
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| 21:59.39 | simonrvn | karim__: whatever |
| 21:59.40 | karim__ | simonrvn: I mean not poeple not answering, I mean no output |
| 21:59.44 | simonrvn | ah |
| 21:59.55 | karim__ | that's weird, I use xchat |
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| 21:59.59 | jcurry | I have an old computer that cannot boot from -rw discs, how do i use floppies to boot the sarge beta4 installer disc I made? |
| 22:00.00 | tag | I cannot suid apache because it craps due to all my mod_perl stuff and IO::File's suid protection since perl and mod_perl are installed from apt without suid enabled and I would actually prefer to keep it that way |
| 22:00.06 | sap | karim__: perhaps apt-setup is closer to what you are looking for? |
| 22:00.15 | simonrvn | tag: dpkg-reconfigure apache |
| 22:00.22 | tag | simonrvn, for what? |
| 22:00.33 | simonrvn | tag: try adding -p low after dpkg-reconfigure |
| 22:00.37 | karim__ | sap: my goal was to find the fastest mirrors |
| 22:00.40 | _Eclipse | Hi. can i connect to X windows desktop from windows. |
| 22:00.45 | simonrvn | tag: to enable suexec. and read the apache docs on that issue |
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| 22:00.56 | tag | simonrvn, Thats not what I want, suexec is unrelated |
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| 22:01.05 | tag | I want an unprivileged user to bind port 80 |
| 22:01.14 | somiaj | _Eclipse: you'll need an X client in windows, but then yes. |
| 22:01.20 | simonrvn | tag: sorry, misread your thing |
| 22:01.22 | tzafrir | _Eclipse, you need an xserver. try cygwin.com |
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| 22:01.28 | simonrvn | tag: not doable |
| 22:01.32 | tag | has to be |
| 22:01.41 | tag | theres no reason it should be undoable |
| 22:01.41 | simonrvn | this is unix. no |
| 22:01.56 | _Eclipse | i am already there. do i need whole cygwin. |
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| 22:02.08 | simonrvn | ok fine, rebuild your OS from scratch then, and don't bitch to me when you get r00ted |
| 22:02.09 | tag | Why cannot a suid application start an application that binds port 80? |
| 22:02.12 | Weeble | _Eclipse: you might find VNC useful |
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| 22:02.22 | FieldySnuts | !start an mta war |
| 22:02.23 | dpkg | courier owns |
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| 22:02.29 | karim__ | Weeble: an xserver gives fastest display |
| 22:02.29 | tzafrir | _Eclipse, you need xfree |
| 22:02.33 | FieldySnuts | vnc would definately be easier to set up than an x11 client/server setup |
| 22:02.45 | karim__ | FieldySnuts: it's easy with cygwin |
| 22:02.51 | tag | I wont get rooted because I let an unprivileged user bind port 80, not any more than I would get rooted if I got rooted because I'd have to get rooted for anyone to do anything with that ability |
| 22:02.53 | _Eclipse | Weeble: i know. i would love to do that. but trouble is remote X windows desktop is out of my reach. i mean admin right. dont have them. |
| 22:02.56 | simonrvn | tag: don't be stupid |
| 22:02.59 | confrey | I need a little help: I have installed sarge wuth 2.6.3-1, but I can't use the cdwriter, neither cdparanoia; what can I do? |
| 22:03.02 | FieldySnuts | very stupid |
| 22:03.02 | tag | I'm not being stupid |
| 22:03.06 | FieldySnuts | yes you are. |
| 22:03.06 | tag | this is a development environment |
| 22:03.09 | _Eclipse | i need a vnc server on other right ? |
| 22:03.11 | tag | not a production environment |
| 22:03.17 | simonrvn | tag: even more stupid |
| 22:03.18 | somiaj | _Eclipse: you could also check out this http://www.colinux.org/ |
| 22:03.19 | FieldySnuts | _Eclipse: yeah. that's much easier to set up |
| 22:03.23 | Weeble | doesn't the linux machine actually need to be configured to serve X remotely tho? |
| 22:03.29 | tag | Explain why that is stupid |
| 22:03.32 | FieldySnuts | Weeble: yes, it's a pain in the ass and very insecure. |
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| 22:03.39 | dan2 | tag: you are just a retard |
| 22:03.41 | FieldySnuts | !moron tag |
| 22:03.42 | dpkg | tag: You are moron #82 |
| 22:03.42 | tag | unprivileged user binds port 80. That doesn't mean someone can gain access to my machine |
| 22:03.42 | tzafrir | Setting up XFree is as easy as installing cygwin |
| 22:03.42 | jcurry | I have an old computer that cannot boot from -rw discs, how do i use floppies to boot the sarge beta4 installer disc I made? |
| 22:03.50 | Weeble | lol |
| 22:03.52 | FieldySnuts | tag: wow. you are very naive. |
| 22:03.56 | Weeble | installing cygwin is not easy :) |
| 22:03.57 | tag | Explain to me why |
| 22:03.58 | tzafrir | And it now comes with a rootlesds mode finally |
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| 22:03.59 | tag | Or how |
| 22:04.01 | simonrvn | tag: read up on security before you go do something stupid like that |
| 22:05.05 | Weeble | the damn thing is a pain in the arse |
| 22:05.05 | jj110888 | is there any IDEs for mono in apt-get? |
| 22:05.05 | FieldySnuts | tag: assuming you can't be broken into, that's your biggest mistake. |
| 22:05.05 | simonrvn | tag: go install lindows, and leave then |
| 22:05.05 | tzafrir | installing cygwin is easy. Tried it recently |
| 22:05.05 | FieldySnuts | anyway i'm done feeding the troll, enjoy getting owned |
| 22:05.05 | tag | FieldySnuts, If I can get broken into I'm fucked already |
| 22:05.05 | simonrvn | dumbass |
| 22:05.05 | tag | FieldySnuts, whats your point? |
| 22:05.05 | tag | :-) |
| 22:05.05 | opp | how does one ftp> |
| 22:05.05 | opp | ?? |
| 22:05.05 | FieldySnuts | opp: client or server |
| 22:05.05 | simonrvn | tag: you have a rather naive view of things. go do some RTFM |
| 22:05.05 | ChrisW | woohoo, thanks guys, I'm now on 2.4.26 |
| 22:05.05 | jj110888 | opp, from command line or gnome or kde? |
| 22:05.05 | sussudio | FieldySnuts: african or european? |
| 22:05.05 | tag | we're talking about binding ports, the difference between a port < 1024 and a port > 1024 is just the services which are allocated to those ports |
| 22:05.08 | Weeble | I have to roll out our cygwin installs and make sure it works for everyone, it is non trivial |
| 22:05.08 | jj110888 | ChrisW, y not 2.6.6 :P |
| 22:05.16 | somiaj | opp: get an ftp client, I like lftp personally...gftp-gtk is an ftp client with a gtk2 interface |
| 22:05.18 | FieldySnuts | !y |
| 22:05.19 | dpkg | somebody said y was http://www.hungry.com/products/Ywindows/, or its why, not y. w h y. see u, any1. |
| 22:05.19 | Weeble | and cygwin+samba = trouble :( |
| 22:05.32 | FieldySnuts | cyvwin+* = trouble |
| 22:05.35 | FieldySnuts | cyg |
| 22:05.53 | jj110888 | cygwin + mingw = ? |
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| 22:06.09 | tag | simonrvn, You are a real fuckstick, you have no idea what you're talking about, and even if you do you've failed to make any type of arguement in your favor. The only thing you've done so far is make your self look so smart by responding to my rationale with name calling and bantering instead of a counter arguement infavor of your position. |
| 22:06.23 | zinx | oh |
| 22:06.24 | FieldySnuts | tag: HGAHAHA |
| 22:06.25 | opp | im using flux |
| 22:06.26 | FieldySnuts | !ops |
| 22:06.26 | dpkg | it has been said that ops is Meet your friendly #debian operators: asuffield, bdale, bignose, bob2`, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, Hydroxide, lilo, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk |
| 22:06.29 | zinx | what have i dropped in on today |
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| 22:06.40 | Weeble | troube ? |
| 22:06.49 | simonrvn | tag: why should i bother spending 20 minutes explaining to a person that refuses to even go read about the whys and hows? |
| 22:06.51 | sussudio | troubled? |
| 22:06.56 | opp | from command line |
| 22:06.59 | ElectricElf | tag: Try to keep it as civil as possible :) |
| 22:06.59 | csaba198 | meg tudod nezni a /usr/src/linux/.config filet? |
| 22:07.02 | opp | i keyed in ftp |
| 22:07.09 | FieldySnuts | !cluebat opp |
| 22:07.10 | simonrvn | csaba198: english please |
| 22:07.11 | jj110888 | opp, gftp is good, but command line, try ncftp |
| 22:07.11 | opp | output: ftp> |
| 22:07.11 | Weeble | mkpasswd doesn't seem to understand machines that are not the machine it is running on and is not in a NT domain |
| 22:07.12 | tag | ElectricElf, I did not start the name calling. |
| 22:07.19 | sussudio | opp: you're not running debian, are you? |
| 22:07.25 | opp | what should i key in there? |
| 22:07.30 | opp | yes, debian |
| 22:07.33 | tag | simonrvn, Point me to the documentation, then. |
| 22:07.38 | tag | simonrvn, smartypants. |
| 22:07.38 | ElectricElf | tag: You're the one I saw though ;) |
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| 22:07.44 | thoreauputic | opp: ftp the.address.you.want.com |
| 22:07.48 | zinx | tag: why don't you just use the debian packages for apache? |
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| 22:07.51 | simonrvn | tag: apt-get install apache-doc, apt-get install rutebook, and go read |
| 22:07.51 | tag | ElectricElf, thats probably because my messages so long. |
| 22:07.52 | FieldySnuts | ElectricElf: he's basically telling everybody that he can't be rooted, period. we were pointing out what a foolish attitude that is, and it escelated from there. pretty silly really. |
| 22:07.56 | tzafrir | tag: actually the reason for that is a bit arcane: in the original security trust model you should know that services on port <80 are run by root |
| 22:07.59 | bghfhf | My fonts are suddenly fuzzy. |
| 22:07.59 | ElectricElf | tag: (Around here a request to one person is generally considered a request to everybody involved.) |
| 22:08.01 | tag | zinx, I am, that has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. |
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| 22:08.06 | tzafrir | thus those services are "safe" |
| 22:08.08 | sussudio | opp: don't lie to me. you're using knoppix. |
| 22:08.16 | zinx | tag: the init scripts and everything handle letting it bind to priviledged ports with only the master process (which doesn't accept connections or serve content) having root |
| 22:08.22 | neemz | If a user is banned from su for too many su attempts how can I remove that ban? |
| 22:08.22 | zinx | tag: at least, with a default install |
| 22:08.23 | simonrvn | (22:08) ircname : opp!~knoppix@cm129.omega16.maxonline.com.sg (Knoppix User) |
| 22:08.25 | FieldySnuts | yeah, sussudio can smell knoppix (especially on a Compaq system) from kilometers away. |
| 22:08.33 | jj110888 | sussudio, knoppix is as much debian as it is linux |
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| 22:08.34 | simonrvn | /whois works too |
| 22:08.40 | simonrvn | jj110888: no it isn't |
| 22:08.42 | tzafrir | But today you can't really trust root on remote machines |
| 22:08.48 | Weeble | hum |
| 22:08.51 | csaba198 | sorry |
| 22:08.53 | ElectricElf | jj110888: They're as similar as Progeny is to Debian. |
| 22:08.56 | tzafrir | Anyway, why not run it on a different port? |
| 22:09.06 | Weeble | does a day actually go by that you guys don't have the "knoppix is not debian" argument ? |
| 22:09.10 | FieldySnuts | Weeble: nope |
| 22:09.10 | jj110888 | ElectricElf, never heard of progeny? |
| 22:09.11 | ElectricElf | jj110888: In other words, "alike enough to be identical to the untrained eye, different enough to go ahead and poke that untrained eye with a fork" |
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| 22:09.15 | gravity | Weeble: I wish |
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| 22:09.23 | tag | tzafrir, services < 1024 are run by root, yea. Often with no extended privileges, and with a uid set to a different user entirely. Which is why I am trying to figure out how letting another user bind the port is any different, other than the simple fact that a user could interfere with local services in theory - but they'd have to figure out how to kill them and get them to unbind the local port |
| 22:09.25 | sussudio | Weeble: this is not arguments, this is abuse. |
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| 22:09.31 | FieldySnuts | tag: it's over, relax. |
| 22:09.31 | ElectricElf | jj110888: A Debian-based distribution. Commercial though, they didn't make it amazingly obvious that it was Debian-based. |
| 22:09.32 | simonrvn | tag: run your apache on 8080 or whatever. why go modify the source to run on port 80 with a non-root user? ffs |
| 22:09.40 | somiaj | Weeble: If people would stop thinking knoppix is debian then it would be different...(: |
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| 22:09.44 | tzafrir | jj110888, there is enough traffic here. #knoppix will get you a better answer |
| 22:10.05 | FieldySnuts | somiaj: it would help a LOT if the irc clients in knoppix didn't join here by default. |
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| 22:10.05 | ElectricElf | simonrvn: "Privelege seperation" |
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| 22:10.07 | jj110888 | ElectricElf, the problems that people with knoppix have, what parcentage of those can you answer? |
| 22:10.08 | zimnyx | anybody here uses gnome ? |
| 22:10.10 | tag | simonrvn, because its needed for reasons related to the development application that I dont feel like getting into, otherwise I would have changed the port obviously |
| 22:10.12 | sussudio | ... |
| 22:10.12 | zinx | simonrvn: or just force people to use https and run it on 443 or so :P |
| 22:10.13 | simonrvn | segurmelis: don't /msg me please |
| 22:10.14 | Weeble | heh |
| 22:10.18 | segurmelis | sorry |
| 22:10.19 | jj110888 | tzafrir, eh, true |
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| 22:10.27 | ElectricElf | simonrvn: Being able to assign ACLs to ports, so that they can only be used by a given (non-privileged account) is a feature request that's been open for a long while. |
| 22:10.29 | jj110888 | zimnyx, not in debian, but whats your question? |
| 22:10.31 | ElectricElf | simonrvn: There are even patches for it. |
| 22:10.31 | somiaj | FieldySnuts: that's more than I want to know about knoppix...(:, but now I see why we get such an influx! |
| 22:10.39 | Weeble | as a "third party" in the matter I can sypmathise with both sides |
| 22:10.42 | danilom | i have runnig the dhclient, but i have a problem, it seems to search every 300 s. to a new ip addresse, how can i change it to: only research an ip in the start up... |
| 22:10.43 | segurmelis | simonrvn: what did you mean with edit debian/rules ? |
| 22:10.46 | FieldySnuts | somiaj: yep. really braindead move on knoppix part. |
| 22:10.46 | simonrvn | ElectricElf: i'd rather not, thank very much |
| 22:10.52 | naim | i cant find the package for xconfig (kernel configuration) ..anyone has a clue ?? |
| 22:10.55 | zinx | tag: you are aware that apache switches users to do the actual content serving, right? |
| 22:10.55 | simonrvn | you* |
| 22:11.03 | tag | zinx, Of course I am |
| 22:11.08 | tag | I mentioned that earlier |
| 22:11.08 | ElectricElf | jj110888: How many can I answer without knowing the particulars of Knoppix? Surprisingly few actually. |
| 22:11.08 | somiaj | FieldySnuts: I think they are just trying to keep them out of #knoppix...(: |
| 22:11.10 | FieldySnuts | somiaj: every time you see somebody with the nick knoppix or knoppix_ or knoppix__ with the ident knoppix come in, that's exactly what it is. |
| 22:11.12 | caphuso | naim: /msg dpkg xconfig |
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| 22:11.16 | ElectricElf | jj110888: The stuff that people most often have problems with are what's most offen different. |
| 22:11.16 | tag | which is why I dont see why the heck its such a big deal if my apache starts out as that user |
| 22:11.19 | ElectricElf | s/offen/often/ |
| 22:11.19 | tag | thats actually all I want |
| 22:11.20 | tag | :-) |
| 22:11.21 | zimnyx | my application has gone wild:) fonts have become unredable http://zimnyx.no-ip.info/1.png . any tips? i diddnt touch application config.. |
| 22:11.29 | simonrvn | tag: fuckstick? lame insults on top of it |
| 22:11.31 | ElectricElf | jj110888: Stuff like setting up video drivers, sound, upgrade problems, that sort of thing. |
| 22:11.31 | tag | I want www-data to be able to start apache. |
| 22:11.42 | medgno | zimnyx: i had that same problem |
| 22:11.42 | ElectricElf | simonrvn: Back off :) |
| 22:11.43 | FieldySnuts | minutes |
| 22:11.44 | tag | simonrvn, And retard was so much more sophisticated than fuckstick. |
| 22:11.54 | simonrvn | tag: i didn't call you retard |
| 22:11.54 | hinjo | I just installed debian woody on my computer, but when I try to start the x-server I get the message Screens found but no usable configuration? What's that supposed to mean |
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| 22:11.58 | zimnyx | medgno: with what applcation ? |
| 22:11.59 | ElectricElf | tag: (You too.) |
| 22:12.00 | tzafrir | naim: qt3-devel? |
| 22:12.03 | jj110888 | ElectricElf, that i can belive |
| 22:12.06 | zinx | tag: then allow www-data to run the init script with the 'start' argument |
| 22:12.10 | simonrvn | tag: i said what you were doing was stupid. big difference |
| 22:12.12 | tzafrir | (kernel 2.4 or kernel 2.6)? |
| 22:12.16 | medgno | zimnyx: all kde ones. I got it when logged in as root, and in kdm |
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| 22:12.21 | jj110888 | hinjo, there a /etc/X11/XF86Config? |
| 22:12.26 | ElectricElf | jj110888: It gets a bit tiring after a while. Nobody should be rude, but it's not like they're totally out of touch with reality. |
| 22:12.28 | confrey | I need a little help: I have installed sarge wuth 2.6.3-1, but I can't use the cdwriter, neither cdparanoia; what can I do? |
| 22:12.32 | FieldySnuts | simonrvn: maybe we can ignore him, he's trolling. |
| 22:12.33 | sussudio | tag: dan2 was the one who called you retard |
| 22:12.36 | tag | zinx, thats what I did and it did not work. |
| 22:12.39 | somiaj | hinjo: let me guess you have a newer geforce card...(: |
| 22:12.42 | medgno | zimnyx: let me guess, your fonts are set to something like "helvitica" or "sans serif" right? |
| 22:12.42 | tag | sussudio, I see, thanks for pointing that out |
| 22:12.47 | zimnyx | medgno: did you apt-get upgrade today ? do you use unstable ? |
| 22:12.51 | ElectricElf | sussudio, tag, simonrvn: Stop. Now. End of discussion. |
| 22:12.54 | jj110888 | ElectricElf, ok |
| 22:12.56 | zinx | tag: then you did something wrong |
| 22:12.58 | zimnyx | medgno: http://zimnyx.no-ip.info/1.png |
| 22:12.58 | simonrvn | tag: i was making the difference between you and your idea. if you can't don't talk to me |
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| 22:13.10 | jcurry | I have an old computer that cannot boot from -rw discs, how do i use floppies to boot the sarge beta4 installer disc I made? |
| 22:13.10 | simonrvn | ElectricElf: i'm done |
| 22:13.15 | Wyzard | hinjo: It means that X couldn't initialize something that it needs in order to start... maybe it couldn't find your mouse, or maybe your monitor frequencies are set wrong so it couldn't find any supported video modes. Earlier in the X output will be another message relating to the actual problem. |
| 22:13.15 | tag | simonrvn, I appologize for that (and that alone), there were about 5 people calling me stupid at once I mixed the insults up. |
| 22:13.17 | medgno | zimnyx: no, i hit that problem a while ago |
| 22:13.17 | hinjo | jj110888: is that the one you condigure with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86. In that case I've already done that |
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| 22:13.23 | sussudio | ElectricElf: i was not in the discussion, just point out a misunderstanding. |
| 22:13.26 | karim__ | ok, just to say that apt-spy seems to hangup when he doesn't have anymore server to test |
| 22:13.30 | medgno | zimnyx: but i do run unstable, and do upgrade every day |
| 22:13.32 | resiak | Hi, all. Anyone got an SB Audigy and having problems with ALSA? I generally leave myself logged into GNOME (2.4.1) for days on end, and I find that sometimes, after extended periods of absence, sound dies. I log out of GNOME, kill esd, re-run alsaconf and all becomes well again. Any ideas? |
| 22:13.34 | ElectricElf | sussudio: It wasn't helpful :) |
| 22:13.34 | zimnyx | medgno: did you solve it? |
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| 22:13.41 | naim | caphuso, tzafrir nop .. not either ..still cant find the package |
| 22:13.42 | Weeble | somiaj: I must confess I don't actually know how my upgrade-d HD install of knoppix is different from how sarge would be |
| 22:13.44 | segurmelis | simonrvn: segurmelis: apt-get source free-radius, and edit debian/rules. the sources files get put in ., so make yourself a dir to build from, like ~/src/ for example what did you mean by editing edbian/rules (sorry portuguese here) ? |
| 22:13.44 | sussudio | ElectricElf: well, he was falsely accusing simonrvn |
| 22:13.44 | ElectricElf | sussudio: If you want you can take it up in private with me. |
| 22:13.47 | jbr | naim: libqt3-mt-dev? |
| 22:13.51 | karim__ | I have no output again |
| 22:13.52 | medgno | zimnyx: look at your font configs, if the problem is with kde apps, in kconfig |
| 22:13.54 | resiak | tag: I really, really, don't want to get involved in all this nastiness, but have you considered sudo? |
| 22:13.56 | Wyzard | resiak: FWIW, I have a Live 5.1 and no problems with it |
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| 22:14.06 | tag | resiak, no |
| 22:14.07 | tag | heh |
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| 22:14.15 | ElectricElf | tag: Out of curiosity, what patch(es?) are you using to enable non-root users to bind to <1024? |
| 22:14.16 | zimnyx | medgno:i use only gnome |
| 22:14.17 | tag | resiak, Thanks for reminding me about that insecure pile, I'll hook it up. |
| 22:14.21 | medgno | okay |
| 22:14.25 | somiaj | Weeble: once you upgrade (as in change your sources) from knoppix to sarge you are no longer running knoppix and are running sarge...there is a difference as you 'upgraded' from knoppix to sarge. |
| 22:14.27 | tag | ElectricElf, none, I was asking for something along those lines |
| 22:14.33 | tag | ElectricElf, thats all. |
| 22:14.36 | ElectricElf | tag: I don't know anything off-hand, but I know they exist. |
| 22:14.43 | simonrvn | segurmelis: when you download the source, there's a file called rules, in a dir called debian, in the source tree (where the source files are) |
| 22:14.50 | ElectricElf | tag: Google's the best bet at this point I would imagine (sorry I can't provide anything more concrete). |
| 22:14.54 | zinx | tag: just let www-data run the init script w/ root privs |
| 22:14.58 | resiak | tag: funny things is, I have very little idea how to use sudo, but I figure that your situation is exactly what it's for... |
| 22:15.03 | ElectricElf | tag: You can also change the kernel itself to do it. |
| 22:15.04 | medgno | zimnyx: then it should be in gnome-control-center, the font config, and try changing the fonts away from the generic "sans" (which i'm guessing they are at now) and setting them to "Bitstream Vera Sans" |
| 22:15.05 | ElectricElf | resiak: Not quite. |
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| 22:15.12 | ElectricElf | tag: There's SELinux which might work too. |
| 22:15.22 | csaba198 | nem, mert nem talalom. |
| 22:15.23 | zimnyx | medgno: i'll try now |
| 22:15.26 | zinx | tag: it's not horribly secure, really, so you'll want to clear environment variables and not allow www-data to give any extra arguments :P |
| 22:15.32 | csaba198 | jaj, tok hulye vagyok. |
| 22:15.33 | resiak | ElectricElf: (hence "I have very little idea...") |
| 22:15.35 | ElectricElf | resiak: sudo is for running particular commands as root. apache drops its root privileges after they're not needed any more already, so sudo doesn't gain anything. |
| 22:15.39 | tag | zinx, Yes I hate sudo |
| 22:15.44 | neemz | how do I add a user to a group? |
| 22:15.46 | csaba198 | sorry. |
| 22:15.50 | tag | zinx, because its horribly insecure, definately more insecure than the idea I proposed |
| 22:15.51 | segurmelis | simonrvn: thanks a lot |
| 22:15.53 | Wyzard | neemz: adduser <username> <groupname> |
| 22:15.54 | Weeble | somiaj: you can appreciate that is a rather wooly boundary though, would you argue that someone who installs woody and upgrades some packages is no longer running debian ? |
| 22:15.59 | medgno | zimnyx: when i had the problem, i got the exact same wrong font that showed up |
| 22:16.52 | neemz | an existing user |
| 22:16.52 | FieldySnuts | neemz: vigr, append it to the end of the group name after the : or any usernames that already exist like so :user1,user2,user3 |
| 22:16.52 | tag | zinx, but you know what, it seems like it'll be easier than trying to change the ACL of port 80 |
| 22:16.52 | naim | caphuso, tzafrir jbr not that even .. i search debian.org too |
| 22:16.52 | ElectricElf | tag: Insecure than running the process as non-root from the getgo, or insecure in an absolute way? |
| 22:16.52 | resiak | ElectricElf: Yes, but since tag wants www-data to have root privs in order to bind to port 80, isn't that the point? |
| 22:16.52 | somiaj | Weeble: the reason a base knoppix is only based off of debian is they don't follow any debian release and add their own .deb's on top of what ever versioning system they use, so its only based off of debian, but its nice in the fact that with apt you could then change from knoppix to debian (though some things may be slightly different than upgrading from woody to sarge) |
| 22:16.52 | tag | and I dont have any more time |
| 22:16.52 | ElectricElf | tag: As in there are exploitable bugs in the code? |
| 22:16.52 | jbr | neemz: yup, adduser will still work |
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| 22:16.52 | tag | this arguement has take about 85% of the time I have to implement this |
| 22:16.53 | FieldySnuts | tag: then don't argue |
| 22:16.53 | zinx | tag: no, patching the kernel to allow unpriviledged binds is trivial |
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| 22:16.53 | Wyzard | neemz: "adduser <username>" creates a new user... "adduser <username> <groupname>" adds an existing user to a group :-) |
| 22:16.53 | zinx | tag: but it's not really a good idea |
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| 22:17.03 | tag | ElectricElf, Have you seen the number of exploitable bugs sudo has had? No suprise, its nature is insecure, it doesn't take the run of the mill buffer overflow to let sudo be breakable |
| 22:17.06 | ElectricElf | zinx: Allowing particular unprivileged users to bind to arbitrary ports is an excellent idea and has been implemented in different ways already. |
| 22:17.13 | zinx | tag: and allowing www-data to run the init script as root probably won't be too bad, if you clear environment variables and don't allow any extra/changed arguments |
| 22:17.15 | opp | how do i check how much space is occpied in hdds? |
| 22:17.20 | zinx | ElectricElf: yeah |
| 22:17.21 | resiak | opp: df -h |
| 22:17.22 | FieldySnuts | opp: df -h |
| 22:17.25 | Weeble | somiaj: well that's sort of my point, I don't see how it is different from a user having made their own choice of packages |
| 22:17.27 | FieldySnuts | note they have to be mounted. |
| 22:17.27 | jbr | neemz: and the user needs to re-login (eg for a test with "su - $USER") |
| 22:17.28 | zinx | ElectricElf: but capabilities are disabled in current Linux |
| 22:17.33 | neemz | Wyzard: it says the user allready exists |
| 22:17.35 | resiak | fieldysnuts: jinx :p |
| 22:17.37 | zinx | ElectricElf: at least as far as i've ever been able to make out |
| 22:17.43 | simonrvn | zinx: 2.6 |
| 22:17.46 | FieldySnuts | neemz: doing what i suggested is far faster than this route. |
| 22:17.50 | sertmann | http://enlightenment.org/pages/img/efl_shots/trill-desktop.png <-- what mp3 player + skin is it on this ss? looks wicked |
| 22:17.51 | zinx | simonrvn: still disabled, AFAIK |
| 22:17.53 | ElectricElf | zinx: They're enabled, actually. But they aren't fine-grained enough for this particular use. |
| 22:17.55 | simonrvn | zinx: nope |
| 22:17.58 | medgno | zimnyx: does it seem to be any better? |
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| 22:18.03 | zinx | simonrvn: even root does not have the capability to change it :x |
| 22:18.03 | ElectricElf | simonrvn: (In 2.4 as well :) |
| 22:18.03 | jbr | neemz: what command line did you give? |
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| 22:18.09 | simonrvn | zinx: configure time option |
| 22:18.14 | zimnyx | medgno: no... i'll restart X |
| 22:18.14 | zinx | simonrvn: :/ |
| 22:18.16 | neemz | adduser nemo wheel |
| 22:18.18 | simonrvn | ElectricElf: with a patch :) |
| 22:18.21 | Wyzard | FieldySnuts: How is "adduser <username> <groupname>" slower than vigr? |
| 22:18.27 | medgno | zimnyx: and if that doesn't work, try restarting the xfs |
| 22:18.33 | medgno | easily could be the problem too |
| 22:18.34 | jbr | neemz: does group "wheel" exist? |
| 22:18.37 | FieldySnuts | Wyzard: he could have had it done in 20 seconds. he still doesn't have it done. |
| 22:18.43 | travisg | is it possible to create a package which "replaces" another package, and provides it at the same time |
| 22:18.47 | travisg | ? |
| 22:18.56 | simonrvn | travisg: equivs |
| 22:19.02 | travisg | i want to have my own version of libraw1394-5 for example |
| 22:19.16 | Wyzard | FieldySnuts: If he's having trouble using adduser, you'd spend five minutes trying to explain how to use vi :-P |
| 22:19.17 | peterS | travisg: sure |
| 22:19.27 | neemz | jbr: I dunno, someone said I had to add a user that had been autobanned from su for too many bad attempts back to group wheel to undo the ban |
| 22:19.49 | jbr | neemz: this doesn't sound much like a stock debian system... |
| 22:19.50 | peterS | travisg: for details of package management and how to use Replaces:, Provides: and Conflicts:, see the packaging manual, linked off www.debian.org/devel/ |
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| 22:20.25 | resiak | oh well, I'll just suffer my audigy/alsa woes alone. cheers, all |
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| 22:20.38 | somiaj | Weeble: There is a difference, if you take debian stable then start installing backports like x4.3 kde3.2 or gnome2.4 or 2.6 would it be debian any more?, it may be based off of debian, but once you have chosen to use third party packages it is *not* debian, and the point people make here is debian should not be responsible to support 3-rd party stuff that people have put on top of debian. |
| 22:20.42 | travisg | peterS: does it show how to do it for binary packages too? that's what we build for our own internal stuff (not because we have a problem with source, but because we keep the source in svn/cvs and binary packages are just easier) |
| 22:20.46 | zimnyx | who did i latked to a moment ago ? |
| 22:20.50 | medgno | zimnyx: me |
| 22:20.51 | zimnyx | talked |
| 22:20.54 | zimnyx | :) |
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| 22:21.01 | zimnyx | medgno: no changes... |
| 22:21.08 | ElectricElf | Weeble: We call installations like that "frakenDebians" or "frakeninstalls" :) |
| 22:21.16 | Weeble | oh I am not arguing it is debian's responsibility |
| 22:21.18 | peterS | travisg: I'm not sure how much detail it goes into |
| 22:21.19 | simonrvn | franken :) |
| 22:21.28 | ElectricElf | simonrvn: Indeed. |
| 22:21.34 | zimnyx | medgno: in your case the problem occoured just with one application ? |
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| 22:21.45 | medgno | zimnyx: no, all kde apps, but just as root |
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| 22:22.00 | peterS | travisg: if you name your package the same as the official package, there's nothing much to do - just install the package, then put it on hold with your packaging tools (/msg dpkg hold) so it won't get upgraded |
| 22:22.02 | medgno | zimnyx: but i've seen weirdness like that that was fixed by restarting xfs |
| 22:22.05 | zimnyx | i'll try to log in as root |
| 22:22.17 | medgno | zimnyx: try, as root, /etc/init.d/xfs restart |
| 22:22.18 | Weeble | and I can very much imagine your frustration at being asked to fix other people's brokeness |
| 22:22.34 | ChrisW | Hi |
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| 22:22.41 | somiaj | Weeble: so from what I've seen is that is the main reason I say knoppix!=debian as if you want support for it you should really ask in #knoppix... |
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| 22:23.12 | ChrisW | Nessus always whines at me that SSH is listening of version 1.33 and 1.5 of the SSH protocol. It says to set "protocol" to 2. I've done this, but it stil lcomplains :-/ |
| 22:23.15 | ChrisW | any ideas? |
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| 22:23.28 | Weeble | well from where I am I've not had any problems where the "debian" answer wasn't the correct one |
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| 22:23.46 | jbr | ChrisW: not really... um, you've restarted the server? |
| 22:23.57 | peterS | ChrisW: I don't think protocol 1.5 is a significant risk, after all. so I think you can ignore nessus's doom and gloom about that |
| 22:24.21 | Weeble | obviously if it is a problem with running off the live CD then it is clearly for #knoppix |
| 22:24.22 | peterS | ChrisW: but if you want to verify that it has its facts straight, try 'telnet machine.example.com 22' and see what greeting string it prints out |
| 22:24.31 | jem77 | When I login as 'userx', /var/log/syslog reports 'root'... why? |
| 22:24.47 | Wyzard | bah, telnet... use netcat for stuff like that :-) |
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| 22:24.59 | Weeble | but #knoppix could just as well say to me "ah you're not running knoppix you updated to sarge packages, ask in #debian" |
| 22:25.09 | peterS | ChrisW: if it says "SSH-1.99" etc., then it supports both protocol 1 and protocol 2 |
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| 22:25.17 | peterS | ChrisW: if it says "SSH-2.00" etc., then it only supports protocol 2 |
| 22:25.21 | ChrisW | okay, just trying to see what it sasy now |
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| 22:25.34 | ChrisW | I've done a definite reboot (kernel upgrade) |
| 22:25.43 | ChrisW | so I'll try re-nessus'ing just port 22... |
| 22:25.46 | ChrisW | bear with me :-) |
| 22:25.50 | somiaj | Weeble: well since you updated to 'sarge' your are running debian, only difference is you may still have some non sarge packages floating around (things left over from knoppis) |
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| 22:26.25 | dli | 2.6.6 kernel, alsa compiled in, I can see devices in /proc/asound, but don't know how to use it. alsamixer doesn't work, "no snd device" |
| 22:26.37 | somiaj | Weeble: Also as knoppix keeps developing and getting people to change it, it will most likely become further and further from debian (Think redhat vs mandrake) |
| 22:26.41 | segurmelis | simonrvn: i have edited the /usr/share/doc/freeradius/freeradius-0.9.3/debian/rules and putted in the --with-experimental-modules (but i cant understand what sources to pot in you talked about) "the sources files get put in" sorry |
| 22:26.50 | Weeble | hmm true |
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| 22:26.58 | peterS | somiaj: might or might not happen. they might purposely track debian |
| 22:27.17 | somiaj | peterS: That is true...(: |
| 22:27.18 | Weeble | well at least this place is better than #fedora |
| 22:27.31 | peterS | Weeble: oh? how so? |
| 22:27.44 | Weeble | ppl actually reply here :) |
| 22:27.52 | peterS | ah |
| 22:28.12 | ChrisW | what is knoppix anyway? |
| 22:28.31 | peterS | ChrisW: fork of debian, customised to run off a compressed live CD |
| 22:28.43 | somiaj | ChrisW: google....I acually like the idea of gnoppix better (for I don't like KDE) |
| 22:28.44 | dondelelcaro | although, it's not really a debian fork... |
| 22:28.45 | patterson | is it a fork ? |
| 22:28.53 | medgno | ChrisW: only for x86, but has really nice hardware autodetection |
| 22:28.53 | dondelelcaro | it's like Debian+random junk |
| 22:28.58 | opp | i want a debian file sharing client |
| 22:29.05 | opp | what do u guys recommend//? |
| 22:29.08 | dli | ChrisW: knoppix doesn't work on my laptop, won't boot |
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| 22:29.08 | Weeble | it isn't very forked though is the problem I think |
| 22:29.22 | somiaj | opp: gift or mldonkey are the ones I know of. |
| 22:29.57 | opp | which has connection to biggest numbers of people |
| 22:30.01 | phogg | opp: definitely giFT |
| 22:30.04 | csaba198 | lejott. |
| 22:30.05 | ChrisW | right |
| 22:30.11 | ChrisW | Nessus is still whining |
| 22:30.11 | csaba198 | na, keresek neki helyet. |
| 22:30.12 | ChrisW | lets try telnetting |
| 22:30.13 | phogg | opp: and get apollon |
| 22:30.15 | Weeble | it doesn't differ enough from debian that most people wouldn't consider it a snapshot of debian that was squeezed onto a CD |
| 22:30.15 | csaba198 | sorry. |
| 22:30.23 | opp | i want the biggest file sharing network, evn better multi networks client |
| 22:30.51 | jj110888 | opp, use gift to connect to fastrack |
| 22:30.51 | opp | how do i search for an app in synaptic |
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| 22:30.53 | ChrisW | I get: SSH-1.99-OpenSSH_3.4p1 Debian 1:3.4p1-1.woody.3 |
| 22:30.54 | peterS | opp: the biggest would probably be HTTP |
| 22:30.55 | phogg | opp: giFT can do gnutella, openft, and fasttrack (the network kazaa uses). In theory it could get a edonkey plugin, but none exists right now |
| 22:30.55 | jj110888 | opp, fastrack is the network kazaa uses |
| 22:30.55 | opp | i key in search box |
| 22:30.56 | medgno | opp: Ctrl+F |
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| 22:31.02 | opp | but nothingnhappens |
| 22:31.08 | ChrisW | why would I get that if I've got the Protocol 2 line in? |
| 22:31.14 | Puggs | Weeble: fyi, kanotix is a knoppix version, that is a snapshot of unstable |
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| 22:31.25 | jj110888 | opp, run `giftd -d` first |
| 22:31.26 | Weeble | but yes, I imagine that somiaj is right and they will diverge in the future in the way Mandrake did from Redhat |
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| 22:31.37 | medgno | then maybe Package->Find |
| 22:31.45 | opp | giftd -d... what does this do?? |
| 22:32.00 | opp | i want to check if an app is already installed in my debian |
| 22:32.04 | opp | how do i do that?? |
| 22:32.14 | dli | anyone give me a simple 123-go instruction for using alsa in 2.6 kernel? I compiled it in, but couldn't use sound still, alsamixer couldn't find the devices |
| 22:32.15 | peterS | opp: dpkg -l packagename |
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| 22:32.33 | ChrisW | peter: the ONLY uncommented line in my ssl_config is "Protocol 2", surely that should turn off 1.5? |
| 22:32.38 | somiaj | Weeble: well you see there is a difference, and sometimes we get people here who are instant that knoppix and debian are the same thing, if you have tried to install both you'll see there is a difference, and I think that is the main point people try to make. |
| 22:32.42 | mentor | opp: dpkg -l? |
| 22:32.43 | phogg | opp: apt-cache policy packagename |
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| 22:33.09 | peterS | dli: dunno ... the only thing I can think of is, you didn't include support for CONFIG_SND_PCM |
| 22:33.11 | jbr | ChrisW: ssl_config? not ssh? |
| 22:33.15 | d0ugie | is there a simple way to get everything in kde to automatically use OSS for sound, not alsa or whatever? |
| 22:33.18 | ChrisW | sorry, ssh_config |
| 22:33.21 | Weeble | yeah, I can see the difference, debian didn't produce anything usable when installed, knoppix did ;) |
| 22:33.23 | d0ugie | right now i can only get xmms to do it |
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| 22:33.28 | peterS | ChrisW: that needs to be in sshd_config, not ssh_config |
| 22:33.33 | peterS | ChrisW: all server-side stuff is |
| 22:33.36 | ChrisW | hmmm, I wonder is there are command line options specified somewhere... |
| 22:33.37 | tzafrir | I mount an smbfs from XP with the option "unicode". I get mangaled names. Anybody? |
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| 22:33.48 | medgno | d0ugie: starting up artsd should let it do that. I think artsd can talk to both alsa and oss |
| 22:33.49 | somiaj | d0ugie: I belive most things in kde use artsd, try to configure that... |
| 22:33.58 | jbr | ChrisW: also, don't worry about the lack of 2s in the package version number |
| 22:33.58 | d0ugie | nice, thanks |
| 22:34.00 | dli | peterS: let me check |
| 22:34.10 | ChrisW | jbr: ? |
| 22:34.12 | phogg | d0ugie: kcontrol has a sound area which ashould set sound for nearly all kde apps |
| 22:34.19 | ChrisW | peterS: AHA :-) |
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| 22:34.29 | zimnyx | q/uit |
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| 22:34.48 | peterS | ChrisW: in ssh_config it controls what the *client* tries to use, see |
| 22:34.53 | k7v | just tried kernel-2.6.6 with sid and now HDD's are put to sleep/park on reboot, can this be controlled by a debian script? |
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| 22:35.07 | ChrisW | peter: right, just changed it |
| 22:35.11 | ChrisW | now we shall see :-) |
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| 22:35.57 | busboy | hello |
| 22:35.59 | busboy | how can i stop the console from flashing, i think i has somthing to do with the console bell tone? |
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| 22:36.07 | dip | i have a pentium II, so should i install a 386,586,or 686 kernel ? |
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| 22:36.17 | js_ | busboy: in a screen? ctrl+a, ctrl+g |
| 22:36.17 | JoshH | dip: 686 |
| 22:36.17 | medgno | dip: afaik, any should work |
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| 22:36.36 | dli | peterS: OSS PCM (digital audio) API in :( |
| 22:36.47 | ecliptik | how do I get a remote samba share to mount with a local user as it's owner? |
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| 22:37.03 | ecliptik | I've tried the uid option, but it still shows up as the user # from the remote machine |
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| 22:37.04 | peterS | dli: it's not the OSS PCM one that is important here. although I'd recommend that too. the main CONFIG_SND_PCM is what I was talking about |
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| 22:37.23 | solars | apt-get upgrade: is it possible to download all new packages while working, then later switch to single user mode and install them? (large update and need to work..) |
| 22:37.24 | ChrisW | peterS; that did it, thanks :-) |
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| 22:37.30 | caphuso | solars: single user mode?!? |
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| 22:37.30 | k7v | anyone tried kernel-2.6.6 yet? if so do your HD's powerdown on reboots? |
| 22:37.50 | Weeble | mine don't anyway k7v :) |
| 22:37.54 | solars | caphuso, hm I thought the system shouldn't be upgrade while everything is running ? |
| 22:38.03 | dli | peterS: CONFIG_SND_PCM=y |
| 22:38.04 | caphuso | solars: right... if you're using windows :) |
| 22:38.10 | peterS | dli: I'm out of ideas, then :/ |
| 22:38.12 | k7v | Weeble, thx, maybe its a promise driver thing then |
| 22:38.17 | solars | caphuso, so I can do it right next to my work ? hehe |
| 22:38.20 | caphuso | solars: sure |
| 22:38.25 | solars | cool :) thx |
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| 22:39.06 | simonrvn | i want my fucking beep back |
| 22:39.18 | Weeble | k7v: er mostly cos my modo/BIOS is knackered |
| 22:39.26 | medgno | simonrvn: did you just upgrade to a new kernel? |
| 22:39.28 | Q4Man | ok... so who can tell me why postfix continues to deliver mail to /var/spool/mail instead of ~/Maildir/ after I set home_mailbox = Mailbox/ in main.cf? |
| 22:39.32 | Weeble | only sure way to turn off the disk is the wall socket |
| 22:39.42 | d0ugie | how can i config arts in kde? |
| 22:39.45 | simonrvn | medgno: 2.6.x alsa for some reason lost the ability to beep |
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| 22:39.57 | busboy | how can i stop the console from flashing, i think i has somthing to do with the console bell tone?o |
| 22:39.59 | simonrvn | medgno: it's been like that since earlier kernels |
| 22:39.59 | medgno | simonrvn: try doing a modprobe pcspkr |
| 22:40.00 | tzafrir | Q4Man, try setting home_mailbox |
| 22:40.06 | simonrvn | medgno: not on ppc |
| 22:40.12 | Q4Man | umm... I did |
| 22:40.14 | roo9 | i have an odd situation with mpg123, i am using mpg123 as part of an integrated jukebox system which uses the -R option to control mpg123, for some reason mpg123 reports weirdly varying elapsed/remaining it will be at say 200 seconds left then jump seemingly randomly |
| 22:40.21 | k7v | Weeble, knackered? dont know that term sorry |
| 22:40.24 | medgno | simonrvn: sorry, i don't know anything on those |
| 22:40.48 | simonrvn | medgno: this is what i get if i do that: |
| 22:40.56 | k7v | Weeble, knackered=broken? |
| 22:40.57 | busboy | js_: what does c+a c+g will do in screen session? |
| 22:40.57 | d0ugie | i have arts installed (it seems), and i need to config it to be used by kde, but dpkg-reconfigure arts does nothing |
| 22:41.03 | d0ugie | any suggestions? |
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| 22:41.15 | dli | peterS: I can remove alsa from kernel, and install alsa from source |
| 22:41.15 | Weeble | k7v pretty much |
| 22:41.16 | js_ | busboy: changes the visual bell to audible, and vice versa |
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| 22:41.30 | js_ | busboy: "ctrl+a, ?" will show you help |
| 22:41.46 | phogg | d0ugie: have you looked in kcontrol's sound module? |
| 22:41.47 | Weeble | the off button can't turn off the machine, video stays on, but disk spins down |
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| 22:41.58 | irvken | apt, in.ftpd |
| 22:42.01 | apt | i don't know, irvken |
| 22:42.13 | simonrvn | medgno: May 10 22:41:56 anubis kernel: IN from bad port 61 at de41b058 |
| 22:42.15 | irvken | apt, ftpd |
| 22:42.18 | apt | well, ftpd is the daemon that speaks the FTP protocol. The following choices are available on Debian: ftpd, the *BSD daemon (good, robust piece of software without anything shiny on it), wu-ftpd (a high-performance, multi-homing and anon-only capable daemon that has caused traffic on bugtraq lately), and proftpd which is somewhere in between |
| 22:42.18 | es | [OT if you want to jaught] |
| 22:42.26 | d0ugie | phogg: no.. never heard of that |
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| 22:42.32 | d0ugie | in there now |
| 22:42.40 | medgno | simonrvn: ack, no clue. try re-asking, i'd think. this is above my level :-/ |
| 22:42.47 | d0ugie | oh yeah i've been here.. came up dry |
| 22:43.03 | simonrvn | medgno: trust me, it's ok. it's a deeper issue than just modrpobing something |
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| 22:43.07 | d0ugie | OSS works on xmms, but not in the sound system setup |
| 22:43.16 | simonrvn | medgno: modprobing even |
| 22:43.25 | medgno | simonrvn: yeah |
| 22:43.31 | bahadunn | The sound server will continue, using the null output device. |
| 22:43.44 | busboy | js_: but that doesn't seem to stop the screen from flashing? |
| 22:43.47 | medgno | just trying to help since i had a similar sounding problem yesterday, and got it fixed |
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| 22:44.04 | simonrvn | medgno: that's cool, thanks |
| 22:44.08 | bahadunn | Sound server informational message: Error while initializing the sound driver: |
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| 22:44.12 | opp | can someone tell me how many ways are there to file sharing in linux??? |
| 22:44.19 | segurmelis | simonrvn: i have edited the /usr/share/doc/freeradius/freeradius-0.9.3/debian/rules and putted in the --with-experimental-modules (but i cant understand what sources to pot in you talked about) "the sources files get put in" sorry |
| 22:44.25 | bahadunn | anyone know why I would get these errors? |
| 22:44.26 | simonrvn | opp: too many |
| 22:44.33 | FieldySnuts | nfs, ftp, http, samba... too many like simonrvn said. |
| 22:44.44 | FieldySnuts | which one you'll want is based on what types of machines you have |
| 22:44.51 | simonrvn | at least partly |
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| 22:44.57 | opp | erm, what if i ask which way is the fastest?? |
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| 22:45.11 | simonrvn | segurmelis: what? /usr/share/doc ? |
| 22:45.13 | FieldySnuts | tell us about the other machiens |
| 22:45.17 | mejde | Anyone know where I can find some screenshots showing of the partitioning part of the new installer? |
| 22:45.18 | FieldySnuts | what are they running |
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| 22:45.37 | busboy | it seem that laptop battery just stop working, any suggestion on how i can bright it back to live? |
| 22:45.45 | FieldySnuts | plug it in? |
| 22:45.55 | busboy | doesn |
| 22:46.07 | petemc | mejde: search on images.google.com |
| 22:46.13 | opp | FieldySnuts, i dony know |
| 22:46.16 | simonrvn | !wayttd segurmelis |
| 22:46.17 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, segurmelis? |
| 22:46.24 | opp | what i want is somehting like kazaa |
| 22:46.30 | opp | but runs on linux |
| 22:46.32 | simonrvn | spyware |
| 22:46.36 | mejde | petemc: hmmmm... I've googled but haven't tried images.google.com... |
| 22:46.37 | busboy | it has been plugin all day and nite |
| 22:46.39 | Reinaldo | opp: amule? emule? limewire? |
| 22:46.40 | FieldySnuts | wow. i have no idea what that is, never used it. (not interested) |
| 22:46.42 | phogg | d0ugie: open kcontrol, go to sound & multimedia->sound system, select the sound i/o tab. select Open Sound System from the dropdown. |
| 22:46.56 | bahadunn | my sound server wont start |
| 22:47.07 | busboy | is this mean i need new battery? |
| 22:47.11 | FieldySnuts | bahadunn: got any error output? |
| 22:47.18 | bahadunn | FieldySnuts: yah this |
| 22:47.20 | FieldySnuts | busboy: laptops are really strange beasts, i'd take it to somebody who works on em |
| 22:47.25 | bahadunn | FieldySnuts: The sound server will continue, using the null output device. |
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| 22:47.34 | bahadunn | FieldySnuts: Sound server informational message: |
| 22:47.34 | bahadunn | Error while initializing the sound driver: |
| 22:47.34 | bahadunn | device: default can't be opened for playback (No such file or directory) |
| 22:47.35 | bahadunn | The sound server will continue, using the null output device. |
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| 22:47.44 | FieldySnuts | bahadunn: sounds like you don't have permission to write to your sound devices, or your sound devices/drivers aren't set up at all |
| 22:47.44 | bahadunn | woops |
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| 22:47.50 | somiaj | opp: try mldonkey, I think that will be more to your liking |
| 22:48.02 | segurmelis | simonrvn: i have edited the file(rules) and added the --with-experimental-modules, it´s just that i need to do ? |
| 22:48.11 | FieldySnuts | but uh i need to go watch these severe storms rollin in, might be in trouble here. |
| 22:48.19 | bahadunn | FieldySnuts: yeah I know but im in the audio group. and I have emu10k1 alsa drivers compiled into my kernel like I always do |
| 22:48.19 | FieldySnuts | if I'm not back in 10 minutes, just wait longer. |
| 22:48.30 | bahadunn | FieldySnuts: ok |
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| 22:48.44 | mejde | petemc: nada :( |
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| 22:49.30 | opp | somiaj, to check if i had this installed alreay i do #apt-cache search mldonkey |
| 22:49.32 | opp | isit? |
| 22:49.50 | beth | opp: apt-cache search just finds packages, doesn't matter if they're installed |
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| 22:49.59 | somiaj | opp: no that is to find a package name, dpkg -l | grep mldonkey |
| 22:50.03 | beth | opp: try this: dpkg -l | grep packagename |
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| 22:50.19 | mejde | or how does one go about taking screenshots of the installer... <print screeh>? |
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| 22:50.45 | opp | it gives me another prompt |
| 22:50.51 | opp | no error messeages |
| 22:51.00 | somiaj | opp: that means its not installed |
| 22:51.00 | opp | no news is good news in linux right? |
| 22:51.08 | opp | so i have it installed already??? |
| 22:51.15 | somiaj | opp: as in there were no installed packages that have 'mldonkey' in their discription |
| 22:51.28 | somiaj | opp: no if it was installed already it would of shown up |
| 22:51.28 | opp | i thought ppl say |
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| 22:51.36 | opp | no news is good news in linux |
| 22:51.51 | jbr | opp: remember that when your machine won't boot |
| 22:51.52 | opp | ooooh |
| 22:51.52 | somiaj | unless of course your asking for news |
| 22:52.16 | opp | hmm, seems like everyone has their theories |
| 22:52.17 | opp | :( |
| 22:52.47 | es | [OT if you want to laught]: in Italy, we are famous for bad pronuciation of english word. A female colleague at work said to an english sysadmin: "Help, I have problem with my pussy" (meaning P.C.). the sys: "what's the problem?" holding laugh up one's sleeve. the girl: "it doesn't work anymore. it doesn't show up as every morning". this is 100% real happened this morning |
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| 22:53.36 | shaleh | es: gotta love language |
| 22:54.01 | es | shaleh: heh !!! |
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| 22:54.19 | Q4Man | Anyone have any idea why postfix continues to deliver to /var/spool/mail even though I have home_mailbox = Mailbox/ set in main.cf and have restarted postfix? |
| 22:54.24 | opp | somiaj, so i must apt-get install mldonkey |
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| 22:54.36 | somiaj | opp: yup, you may want to install the gui as well |
| 22:54.37 | opp | is that the command to install it thru apt-get??? |
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| 22:54.58 | opp | how to install gui |
| 22:55.02 | opp | whats the command? |
| 22:55.34 | Bullseye | opp: apt-cache search |
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| 22:55.52 | petemc | !tell opp about set up x |
| 22:55.55 | somiaj | hmm, if I have a string ' foo > bar < foo' how do I isolate the "bar" with awk, or something similar. |
| 22:56.27 | busboy | how can i go about creating a file.tar.gz on a local machine and put it on a remote host, like tar over ssh ? |
| 22:56.36 | anarcat | you pipe it |
| 22:56.45 | CompWizrd | busboy: scp file.tar.gz remotehost:/path |
| 22:56.59 | busboy | like tar|ssh |
| 22:56.59 | upsala | busboy: look at nc |
| 22:57.00 | anarcat | tar cfz - files | ssh remoteshost > foo.tgz |
| 22:57.10 | busboy | right, thnx |
| 22:57.19 | anarcat | er |
| 22:57.24 | busboy | tar -cz - / |
| 22:57.29 | anarcat | tar cfz - files | ssh remoteshost '> foo.tgz' |
| 22:57.36 | opp | Reading Package Lists... Done |
| 22:57.36 | opp | Building Dependency Tree... Done |
| 22:57.36 | opp | es: Couldn't find package mldonkey |
| 22:57.43 | anarcat | otherwise > foo.tgz will be interpreted by hte local shell |
| 22:57.43 | opp | whats does this mean?? |
| 22:57.45 | opp | :( |
| 22:58.00 | Bullseye | opp: www.apt-get.org |
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| 22:58.23 | es | opp: means you don't have that package in your apt sources |
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| 22:58.47 | Bullseye | opp: you need to add the source |
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| 22:59.14 | Bullseye | opp: in /etc/apt/sources |
| 22:59.18 | dogayonv | Hello everyone |
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| 23:00.16 | dogayonv | if I change my apt sources from unstable to stable and upgrade will that put my system back to stable status? or is there more I need to do? |
| 23:00.21 | opp | bash: /etc/apt/sources: No such file or directory |
| 23:00.25 | opp | ermm.. |
| 23:00.31 | opp | whats happening,dudes? |
| 23:00.47 | Lahmnia | sources.list |
| 23:00.49 | busboy | anarcat: will this work tar -cp / | ssh u@h tar -x -C /backup/lnx ? |
| 23:01.03 | Bullseye | opp: nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 23:01.03 | es | opp: /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 23:01.04 | caereth | dogayonv, that won't do anything, it wont change to a lower version of any package |
| 23:01.24 | Lahmnia | dogayonv, as far as i can remember .. in debianplanet yo have an article that explain how to do a downgrade ... |
| 23:01.35 | CompWizrd | busboy: tar -cpf - / | ssh u@h 'tar -xpf -' |
| 23:01.38 | es | <dogayonv> I don't know if is possible at all move back to stable |
| 23:01.53 | CompWizrd | oh, you want the -C option |
| 23:01.55 | opp | bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied |
| 23:01.56 | CompWizrd | well, figure that one out too :) |
| 23:02.00 | busboy | i need the '..' |
| 23:02.03 | opp | im in root |
| 23:02.05 | Bullseye | opp: su |
| 23:02.05 | es | opp: u need to be root |
| 23:02.11 | opp | im root |
| 23:02.18 | opp | how come? |
| 23:02.25 | es | opp: no come |
| 23:02.44 | es | ls -la /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 23:02.51 | caereth | dogayonv, /msg dpkg downgrading |
| 23:03.03 | busboy | thnx |
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| 23:03.19 | opp | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3217 Dec 10 21:34 /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 23:03.25 | opp | ermm... |
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| 23:03.44 | caphuso | opp: you're not supposed to *execute* that file |
| 23:03.52 | idnarhtim | that's pretty big |
| 23:03.52 | Bullseye | opp: nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 23:03.56 | idnarhtim | 3KB?? |
| 23:04.11 | opp | huh?cap, what u mean? |
| 23:04.12 | CompWizrd | and i thought mine was big at 266 bytes |
| 23:04.26 | mboso | i just rebooted my computer and for absolutely X won't start. it dies saying "could not open default font 'fixed'" |
| 23:04.30 | opp | b |
| 23:04.37 | opp | bull |
| 23:04.43 | Bullseye | opp: it is a txt file |
| 23:04.44 | opp | i dont have nano |
| 23:04.45 | mboso | my default fonts are there they've always been, haven't changed the Config file lately |
| 23:04.58 | CompWizrd | apt-get install nano |
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| 23:04.59 | CompWizrd | and you will :) |
| 23:05.01 | jbr | opp: try "editor" |
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| 23:05.58 | es | Bullseye is nano better than joe? |
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| 23:06.07 | dot_vpr | I am quite new to linux. When using apt-get I get a bunch of messages like "depends: **** but is not installable " |
| 23:06.30 | Bullseye | es: i have only used nano and pico |
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| 23:06.42 | es | and between nano and pico? |
| 23:07.00 | Bullseye | es: nano |
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| 23:07.10 | es | dot_vpr: apt-get -f install |
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| 23:07.43 | BobEsponja | channel on spanish? |
| 23:07.52 | dot_vpr | es: same thing |
| 23:07.53 | CompWizrd | pico isn't free, so you'll want nano |
| 23:07.53 | BobEsponja | or server of debian-es |
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| 23:08.25 | Bullseye | dot_vpr: changes from stable to testing |
| 23:08.26 | dot_vpr | ah neveremind now its saying not installed |
| 23:08.40 | dot_vpr | in sources.list? |
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| 23:09.03 | mentor | !spanish |
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| 23:09.04 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish speakers: please go to #debian-es, you will get a lot more help there. |
| 23:09.19 | es | CompWizrd: looking for an "terminal mode" editor that doesn't suck (no emacs or vim is not an option) what's the best in your oppinion? |
| 23:09.25 | dot_vpr | Bullseye: in sources.list? |
| 23:09.44 | beth | es: you have to say what "doesn't suck" means, and what you're looking for |
| 23:09.45 | nkuttler | dot_vpr: are you running woody? |
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| 23:09.57 | CompWizrd | es: always liked nano myself |
| 23:09.58 | Bullseye | dot_vpr: in apt.conf |
| 23:10.39 | beth | es: joe is a nice package, you can invoke it as jpico to get pico/nano-like keybindings, or jmacs to get emacs-like keybindings (there are a few others) |
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| 23:11.58 | spirox | just installed woody - dell video and network, bah - frustrated - now how to get kde/konqueror to startup |
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| 23:12.27 | es | beth: I agree I was to much general. I want an editor that doesn't change the quotation marks, where I can copy and paste emacs like, where there is search for regex back forth... not so much just basic editing in a server where X it's not installed and I don't want to install Xfree and Xlibs just for emacs (yes debian doesn't provide emacs-noX) |
| 23:12.28 | nkuttler | spirox: apt-get install kde should do it |
| 23:12.36 | Bullseye | spirox: what do you mean |
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| 23:12.53 | CompWizrd | beth: i wonder if FieldySnuts blew away |
| 23:12.56 | beth | es: jmacs sounds like what you want |
| 23:12.57 | spirox | nkuttler - thanx will try - WBB |
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| 23:13.20 | beth | CompWizrd: next time, we tie FieldySnuts down. I'll bring the duct tape |
| 23:13.37 | CompWizrd | i was going to change my nick to 'away', but that would be crude :P |
| 23:13.49 | es | beth: can't find it in woody it's that in unstable? |
| 23:13.57 | beth | es: the package is called "joe" |
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| 23:14.16 | beth | apt-get install joe ; jmacs something-you-want-to-edit.txt |
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| 23:14.30 | bin | help, i need to get something from a website with wget, the problem is that the site wants me to accept cookies else i can't get it.. how can i tell wget to accept all cookies and go on? |
| 23:14.45 | busboy | is ">" read from stdin? |
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| 23:15.14 | caphuso | busboy: man wget, search for cookie |
| 23:15.15 | nkuttler | bin: if wget supports that the manpage should know it |
| 23:15.16 | caphuso | err |
| 23:15.16 | es | beth: ah joe was what I was using now but it's have weird behavior with file containg ` quotes |
| 23:15.18 | caphuso | bin: man wget, search for cookie |
| 23:15.29 | caphuso | bin: no, it means redirect stdout |
| 23:15.31 | es | busboy: < is stdin |
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| 23:15.31 | caphuso | grrrr |
| 23:15.32 | bin | the page returns me: moved temporarily |
| 23:15.36 | naim | i am having trouble with make xconfig; it complians about qt not being install; i install qt3-qtconfig and qt3-dev-tools... still same problems.. any clue |
| 23:15.37 | bahadunn | what device would alsa use for an emu10k1? |
| 23:15.39 | naim | ?? |
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| 23:15.42 | caphuso | i seem to be severely confused |
| 23:15.43 | Bullseye | bin try lynx and hit d |
| 23:15.46 | busboy | ic |
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| 23:15.54 | caphuso | naim: /msg dpkg xconfig |
| 23:15.55 | beth | es: hit ` twice to enter a `. you get used to it. |
| 23:15.58 | bin | Bullseye i need to automate it |
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| 23:16.25 | jbr | naim: yes, as I said, |
| 23:16.33 | jbr | libqt3-mt-dev |
| 23:16.36 | corr | stupid FCKING modem driver |
| 23:16.37 | bin | wget --cookies=on but it says me: moved temporarily, thats ffs strange :s |
| 23:16.43 | es | beth cool! thanks for the tip |
| 23:16.57 | mentor | corr: What kind of modem? |
| 23:17.08 | busboy | i get a host.unknown_domain at the login prompt, how can i resolve this problem? |
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| 23:17.09 | naim | jbr ..oops .. didnt see that one |
| 23:17.17 | corr | who the hell knows, but the slmdm/slmodem driver is supposed to work |
| 23:17.27 | FieldySnuts | get a real modem |
| 23:17.29 | jbr | naim: oh, and have you got g++? tripped me |
| 23:17.33 | corr | slmodem-SOMEVERWHOCARESW3HAT worked on slackware perfectly |
| 23:17.40 | corr | FieldySnuts put a real modem in a laptop for me |
| 23:17.48 | FieldySnuts | pay me |
| 23:18.06 | FieldySnuts | dpkg -i modem |
| 23:18.10 | FieldySnuts | er wait |
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| 23:18.17 | corr | but whats really strange to me is that it worked on slackware with 2.6.5 but it doesnt work on debian-testing with the same kernel/driver |
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| 23:18.38 | mentor | corr: Did you recompile the modules against the correct kernel headers? |
| 23:18.41 | corr | wvdial hangs and ends up complaing about idle |
| 23:18.44 | corr | mentor, yes |
| 23:18.48 | corr | the module loads fine |
| 23:18.49 | mentor | :/ |
| 23:18.52 | naim | jbr .. getting now |
| 23:18.55 | corr | it messes up when i try using wvdial |
| 23:18.57 | corr | hangs |
| 23:19.04 | paladin_ | could somebody please ping 3ffe:bc0:8000::334d? |
| 23:19.11 | corr | i have no frickin clue, maybe it is a wvdial bug |
| 23:19.25 | corr | on slackware i used kppp to connect |
| 23:19.34 | corr | so maybe kppp just knew the magic words to get it to work |
| 23:19.35 | beth | wow, #debian is so much more fun once you ignore joins and quits |
| 23:19.50 | sussudio | beth: and users |
| 23:20.01 | beth | ooh I should try that :) |
| 23:20.04 | bin | wget --cookies=on --save-cookies test.txt http://someurl -> test.txt seem to be empty, but when i use a normal browser it seem that it stores a cookie.. whats wrong? |
| 23:20.07 | FieldySnuts | hehe hi beth :D |
| 23:20.07 | bin | wget --cookies=on --save-cookies test.txt http://someurl -> test.txt seem to be empty, but when i use a normal browser it seem that it stores a cookie.. whats wrong? |
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| 23:20.15 | cafuego | paladin_: rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 1629.981/2196.310/2702.272/368.104 ms, pipe 3 |
| 23:20.23 | FieldySnuts | ouch |
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| 23:20.29 | paladin_ | thanks, it works cafuego :) |
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| 23:21.41 | jbr | bin: maybe (in man wget) "Cookies whose expiry time is not specified [...] are not saved" |
| 23:22.03 | bin | jbr: what todo? |
| 23:22.08 | bahadunn | cafuego: do you know what device alsa would use for an emu10k1 card? |
| 23:22.08 | bin | jbr: damn that sucks |
| 23:22.44 | bahadunn | it doesnt seem to be /dev/dsp |
| 23:23.00 | bahadunn | the permissions look good for dsp and im in the audio group |
| 23:23.03 | bahadunn | sound server wont start |
| 23:23.12 | leOn | hey cafuego |
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| 23:23.31 | leOn | cafuego: you use apache-ssl or libapache-mod-ssl ? |
| 23:23.34 | bahadunn | this has never happened before. my computer is acting weird lately |
| 23:23.38 | bin | wget doesnt save cookies |
| 23:23.42 | Bullseye | bahadunn: do you have alsamixer |
| 23:23.50 | bahadunn | Bullseye: yeah |
| 23:24.11 | es | bin: get the last version of wget (wget-1.9.1) from CVS and use --keep-session-cookies --save-cookies file and for the next urls use --keep-session-cookies and --load-cookies file |
| 23:24.32 | bahadunn | the other thing is that in kmix I have all the volumes except master volume |
| 23:24.36 | bahadunn | thats very strange |
| 23:24.42 | es | bin: wget do save cookies |
| 23:25.18 | bin | es give me some example which has cookies.. so i can check if its working or not |
| 23:25.24 | Bullseye | bahadunn: i dont know i have never used kde |
| 23:25.41 | bahadunn | Bullseye: I tried using mp3blaster in text console which wont work either |
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| 23:25.56 | es | bin: read again twice what I wrote than try again |
| 23:25.58 | bin | ok google does |
| 23:26.04 | Bullseye | bahadunn: i use noatun |
| 23:26.05 | bin | es it works with google |
| 23:26.12 | bin | but what about sites which doesnt save cookies |
| 23:26.16 | bin | i need to save cookies :s |
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| 23:26.34 | Bullseye | bahadunn: and alsamixer to change volum |
| 23:26.35 | es | grab the last CVS version bin |
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| 23:28.28 | S2K | can i expect any problems upgrading my kde using apt-get? |
| 23:29.30 | Bullseye | when i play music and use apt-get my music hangs and i have used hdparm and it dident help at all |
| 23:30.05 | leOn | Bullseye: what processor and ram do you have ? |
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| 23:30.12 | opp | whats the difference between apt-get updat and upgrade? |
| 23:30.26 | petemc | opp: man apt-get |
| 23:30.30 | S2K | update gives it new sources lists |
| 23:30.31 | leOn | opp: man apt-get |
| 23:30.34 | S2K | *new package lists |
| 23:30.37 | g4lt | opp the difference between knowing a new package is there and getting it |
| 23:30.43 | S2K | upgrade give you new packages |
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| 23:31.02 | mboso | if you short pins 2 and 3 on a com port when booting linux will that cause any problems? |
| 23:31.07 | mboso | specifically with X |
| 23:31.08 | Bullseye | leOn: i have a dell inspirion 8500 whit 2.6ghz cpu and 512mb ram |
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| 23:31.31 | opp | means upgrade actually downloads n install the softwares in box that can be upgraded? |
| 23:31.33 | g4lt | mboso it may cause a few problems with you being part of the circuit.... |
| 23:31.43 | bahadunn | Bullseye: I have done this so many times and I have not had to do this with the volumes for quite some time. I always just use kmix to adjsut volumes. |
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| 23:31.53 | mboso | g4lt : not sure i follow you |
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| 23:31.55 | bahadunn | Bullseye: but hey your advice worked. I should have tried it myself |
| 23:32.12 | corr | this had better frickin work |
| 23:32.13 | bahadunn | Bullseye: I feel like amatuer now. thanks anyways I appreciate it |
| 23:32.26 | jbr | opp: notice the --simulate option. Why not just try it? |
| 23:32.31 | Bullseye | bahadunn: :) |
| 23:32.36 | g4lt | mboso shorting pins usually implies holding the impliment ;) |
| 23:32.41 | leOn | Bullseye: what does hdparm -t /dev/hda say ? |
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| 23:33.02 | inkypinky | are there any newsgroup readers under linux that can handel large groups I am using PAN but it keeps crashing for groups with a large number of headers |
| 23:33.08 | mboso | g4lt : oh no. i did it using a jumper |
| 23:33.16 | g4lt | inkypinky slrn |
| 23:33.18 | S2K | i used knode |
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| 23:33.43 | g4lt | s2k that's cheating, it downloads a subset of hte headers ;P |
| 23:33.48 | bahadunn | Bullseye: thanks again buddy |
| 23:33.56 | S2K | ... i don't mind |
| 23:34.21 | Bullseye | leOn: 8mb in 3.62 seconds = 2.21 mb/sec |
| 23:34.27 | leOn | ouch |
| 23:34.29 | leOn | =) |
| 23:34.38 | S2K | how about just using google groups? |
| 23:34.47 | naim | gdm doesnt give me an option to use other window managers.. plz tel me what file to edit |
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| 23:35.07 | leOn | Bullseye: hdparm /dev/hda|grep dma |
| 23:35.14 | opp | abt newsproups, why is it that ppl use newsgroups to download binaries? |
| 23:35.21 | nkuttler | naim: gdmconfig? |
| 23:35.29 | nkuttler | naim: you need to enable the menu first |
| 23:35.39 | S2K | because it's not as scary as using kazaa/limewire |
| 23:36.09 | Bullseye | leOn: dma is off |
| 23:36.16 | opp | S2K, what do u mean??scary to use kazaa or limewire? |
| 23:36.35 | aztecinc | how does one stop x from a console/ |
| 23:36.38 | leOn | Bullseye: hdparm -d1 /dev/hda |
| 23:37.10 | naim | nkuttler, i was talking about having the option to get other window manager than gnome .. like E or fluxbox |
| 23:37.14 | S2K | opp: because the riaa is stalking kazaa users |
| 23:37.20 | Bullseye | leOn: thanks |
| 23:37.37 | leOn | Bullseye: w8 ... it's not done yet |
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| 23:37.44 | naim | nkuttler, this gives me the option to auto lgin and shit like that |
| 23:37.47 | leOn | Bullseye: is it enabled now ? |
| 23:37.53 | Bullseye | leOn: yes |
| 23:38.03 | naim | nkuttler, gdmconfig that is |
| 23:38.21 | Bullseye | leOn: using_dma = 1 (on) |
| 23:38.30 | leOn | check for the IO_support |
| 23:38.42 | aztecinc | how does one stop x from a console, x starts automaticly on boot and the refresh is messed up |
| 23:38.46 | leOn | is it off, 16-bit or 32-bit ? |
| 23:38.57 | Bullseye | leOn: how |
| 23:39.08 | nkuttler | aztecinc: /etc/init.d/?dm stop? |
| 23:39.30 | nkuttler | aztecinc: or don't you want any display manager? |
| 23:39.32 | S2K | are there any intergrated rss feed readers that let you browse the internet at the same time, or do i just have to keep using my liferea/dillo combo? |
| 23:39.34 | The_Vulture | aztecinc: alt-ctrl-f1 to get a virtual terminal first.. |
| 23:40.04 | leOn | Bullseye: hdparm /dev/hda |
| 23:40.09 | leOn | it's one of the lines |
| 23:40.19 | leOn | also check for readahead |
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| 23:40.25 | es | aztecinc: look in /etc/inittab the initdefault line |
| 23:40.36 | aztecinc | nkuttler: I just want to kill it so I can fix th refresh rate |
| 23:40.52 | Nurbs | S2K: I think there are RSS extensions for Firefox, you could check their extensions page |
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| 23:41.02 | es | aztecinc ctrl + alt +backspace |
| 23:41.04 | aztecinc | afk |
| 23:41.13 | nkuttler | es: that will restart it |
| 23:41.23 | S2K | nurbs: i've seen one for mozilla but mozilla is too bulky for me |
| 23:41.23 | nkuttler | aztecinc: /etc/init.d/?dm stop |
| 23:41.27 | es | nkuttler: k sorry you right |
| 23:41.55 | Bullseye | leOn: IO_support = 0 (default 16-bit) and readahead = 256 (on) |
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| 23:42.19 | cafuego | S2K: There are little RSS desklet tools that scroll newsfeed headlines |
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| 23:42.29 | bin | hello, i'm trying todo : lynx -accept-all-cookies www.google.com with http_proxy=ip:port but i see: unable to connect; how is that possible? the proxy is perfectly working, and when trying other proxies they don't work either.. |
| 23:43.00 | leOn | Bullseye: try setting IO to 32-bit ... use -c 1 to enable 32-bit operation |
| 23:43.04 | S2K | desklets aren't good for me, i subscribe to over 20 sites and i'd go crazy watching a ticker |
| 23:43.11 | opp | i upgraded thru synaptic |
| 23:43.20 | jbr | nkuttler: you mean not hourly, or not weekly? |
| 23:43.20 | leOn | Bullseye: hdparm -c1 -d1 -k1 /dev/hda |
| 23:43.36 | opp | is it better to upgarde in commmand line or use smart upgrade in synaptic? |
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| 23:43.43 | es | bin: get the last version of wget (wget-1.9.1) from CVS and use --keep-session-cookies --save-cookies file and for the next urls use --keep-session-cookies and --load-cookies file |
| 23:43.44 | leOn | Bullseye: the -k is for keep the options even after an IDE reset |
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| 23:43.54 | nkuttler | jbr: weekly is enough in my eyes. i'm just bored of moving the script |
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| 23:44.09 | jbr | nkuttler: "the script"? |
| 23:44.26 | jazzka | is there anyway to start bittorrent and close it by the key "q", automatically after 2 hours? |
| 23:44.27 | naim | opp apt-get is best .. u know exactly what u r doing there |
| 23:44.27 | nkuttler | jbr: /etc/cron.daily/slocate |
| 23:44.33 | dondelelcaro | nkuttler: eh? if you move it, it shouldn't ever be replaced... |
| 23:44.36 | opp | oh sit |
| 23:44.47 | opp | it seems that synaptic removed some files |
| 23:44.47 | Bullseye | leOn: ok its done |
| 23:44.48 | nkuttler | dondelelcaro: on every install that is... just a rant |
| 23:44.52 | es | jazzka: kill the process with at |
| 23:44.53 | opp | automaytically |
| 23:44.57 | leOn | Bullseye: try it now |
| 23:45.02 | dondelelcaro | nkuttler: oh. |
| 23:45.03 | naim | opp u mean shit |
| 23:45.06 | leOn | Bullseye: hdparm /dev/hda |
| 23:45.07 | leOn | ops |
| 23:45.08 | S2K | i tried mandrake's urpmi and its such a horrible rip of apt-get |
| 23:45.16 | opp | apt-get upgrade does not? |
| 23:45.16 | leOn | Bullseye: hdparm -t /dev/hda |
| 23:45.16 | dondelelcaro | nkuttler: that's different... thought you were talking about on every upgrade... |
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| 23:45.21 | leOn | see what's the data transfer |
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| 23:45.25 | naim | opp :: http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto |
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| 23:45.30 | mboso | what is the command that tells you what package a specific file belongs to? |
| 23:45.34 | jazzka | es: bittorrent must close with "q" from the keyboard |
| 23:45.37 | dondelelcaro | mboso: dpkg -S |
| 23:45.42 | naim | opp use nothing else |
| 23:45.47 | mboso | dondelelcaro : thanks |
| 23:45.52 | dondelelcaro | mboso: or apt-file. /msg dpkg search |
| 23:45.53 | es | jazzka: you can always kill the process |
| 23:46.02 | jbr | mboso: see also http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages#search_contents |
| 23:46.12 | mboso | i tried apt-file search, but i guess that wasn't it |
| 23:46.22 | Bullseye | leOn: it works fine thanks |
| 23:46.23 | opp | so i mark all possible upghrades in synaptic |
| 23:46.39 | jazzka | es: I know, but doesn't exist the possibility to "send a key" to the process ? |
| 23:46.42 | opp | but i still need to press on apply for thre process to start???is it? |
| 23:46.53 | opp | if i dont press nothings happens,right? |
| 23:46.58 | Bullseye | opp: yes |
| 23:47.05 | opp | it just searches for possible upgrades>?? |
| 23:47.07 | opp | is it? |
| 23:47.23 | opp | buu thanks |
| 23:47.26 | opp | bu |
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| 23:47.36 | anothernick | j #kanotix |
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| 23:47.40 | es | jazzka: there is no no standard comunication protocol to do that in any language |
| 23:48.07 | jazzka | es: all right |
| 23:48.21 | opp | Bullseye, u think i should allow synaptic to delete , remove some files |
| 23:48.25 | opp | while upgrading |
| 23:48.33 | sliipy | any kind soul here willing to help me with postfix+sasl ? i've got serious problems. :/ |
| 23:48.40 | opp | or use apt-get upgrade so it willn not remove nothing |
| 23:49.05 | Bullseye | opp: apt-get -u dist-upgrade |
| 23:49.28 | es | jazzka: look maybe there is an external protocol you can use in bittorent to send quit .... you can never know ... but I don't think so |
| 23:49.30 | opp | Bullseye, hows this different from apt-get upgrade? |
| 23:49.49 | jbr | opp: the man page has clues |
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| 23:50.46 | Bullseye | opp: it upgrades every thing |
| 23:51.22 | phobox | what can slow down establishing of tcp connections (dns is fast)? |
| 23:51.58 | leOn | phobox: dns failures can make that happen |
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| 23:52.05 | sliipy | is it impossible to get postfix running with sasl in debian stable ? |
| 23:52.20 | Bullseye | esgestion: wher do i get bittorent |
| 23:52.25 | sliipy | 2) is it recommended to run debian testing on a server-machine ? |
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| 23:52.47 | medgno | sliipy: it's a real nasty trick to set up postfix + sasl. I did it in unstable recently, and couldn't tell you how i did it |
| 23:52.57 | leOn | sliipy: check if backports.org can provide those packages for you |
| 23:52.59 | sliipy | medgno: oh :/ |
| 23:53.01 | Bullseye | sliipy: i run testing on my laptop |
| 23:53.18 | sliipy | i've checked backports.. they've got "cyrus-sasl2" |
| 23:53.19 | phobox | leon I sayed dns is fast and working... |
| 23:53.28 | sliipy | but i've installed that, and it doesnt help... |
| 23:53.45 | sliipy | seems like i haven't got saslauthd (which i presume is pretty important) |
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| 23:54.08 | leOn | sliipy: have you checked if the version of postfix you're using has sasl enabled ? |
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| 23:54.42 | sliipy | is there any other way i can have smtp-auth running? i just want my virtual users (postfix+mysql up 'n' running) to be able to SEND mail through my machine aswell as recieve |
| 23:54.59 | sliipy | leOn: i'm running postfix2 (from backports) |
| 23:55.02 | GAP | I'm trying to figure out how to open the contents of an .iso file without burning it to a cd-rom... |
| 23:55.11 | sliipy | i'm not sure how to check for sasl-support |
| 23:55.17 | sliipy | this is in my mail.log: |
| 23:55.23 | sliipy | May 11 01:49:36 thunder postfix/smtpd[24280]: fatal: no SASL authentication mechanisms |
| 23:55.24 | opp | apt-get check |
| 23:55.24 | opp | Reading Package Lists... Done |
| 23:55.24 | opp | Building Dependency Tree... Done |
| 23:55.27 | S2K | gap: isobuster. it runs under wine, supposedly. |
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| 23:55.40 | opp | i did apt-get check, |
| 23:55.59 | leOn | sliipy: apt-get install sasl2-bin |
| 23:56.06 | opp | after the above, theres a prompt, means no error, or broken depencies, everythings in order? |
| 23:56.13 | opp | is it? |
| 23:56.24 | leOn | if you have cyrus-sasl2 from backports in your sources.list file |
| 23:56.31 | sliipy | yes i have |
| 23:56.32 | Bullseye | opp: yes |
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| 23:57.19 | opp | Bullseye, thanks |
| 23:57.20 | GAP | S2K: Ok, thanks... |
| 23:57.21 | Bullseye | opp: yes it means that your sourceses are ok |
| 23:57.23 | opp | :)good to hear |
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| 23:57.50 | jono | I have an imap server at home, and using evolution, when I delete my messages they go to the trash folder, but I cant actually finally delete them - any idea how? |
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| 23:58.00 | opp | sources are ok, so i need to use these sources to install apps |
| 23:58.04 | opp | right? |
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| 23:58.15 | Bullseye | opp: yes |
| 23:58.16 | S2K | jono: maybe you can put them in another folder and delete the whole folder? |
| 23:58.17 | opp | are they the most updated, current sources? |
| 23:58.18 | leOn | jono: there's a purge option, i believe |
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| 23:58.47 | sliipy | leOn: i've got the same error still :/ |
| 23:59.00 | Bullseye | opp: i dont know you add sourceses at your own need |
| 23:59.11 | jono | ahha cool, thanks |
| 23:59.22 | opp | how do u add sources to apt-get |
| 23:59.24 | S2K | opp: you want to put the experimental builds? |
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| 23:59.38 | opp | if its not i the apt-get collection |
| 23:59.38 | leOn | jono: actions - empty trash |
