| 00:00.12 | \Igor\ | cafuego: isn't that technically a window manager? |
| 00:00.12 | cafuego | Element-1: yes |
| 00:00.12 | cafuego | Element-1: it requires a kernel patch and recompile, though. |
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| 00:00.34 | denken | this is gonna piss me off... |
| 00:00.36 | Element-1 | Is there any guides out there? |
| 00:01.24 | cafuego | Undoubtedly. Google will be of more use to you though. |
| 00:01.34 | Element-1 | im looking |
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| 00:01.48 | Element-1 | image wouldnt be the smartest thing to look for |
| 00:01.53 | piem | Element-1: find the image file in the source, edit it and recompile... |
| 00:01.54 | piem | Element-1: the kernel source of course |
| 00:01.58 | MarcoPau | cafuego: great. How about scsi_mod instead? |
| 00:02.01 | cafuego | Do a search on 'fbcon custom logo' or soemthing |
| 00:02.06 | \Igor\ | I want to replace the bloated command run dialog that comes with gnome... by default command completion is one feature I don't want... |
| 00:02.11 | Element-1 | Thank you |
| 00:02.14 | piem | Element-1: try logo |
| 00:02.27 | jbr | \Igor\: I like gmrun, there are plenty of others |
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| 00:02.50 | cafuego | MarcoPau: Scsi Supprt -> <M> |
| 00:03.11 | \Igor\ | jbr: ah, thanks... any other candidates? I want to examine my options |
| 00:03.14 | MarcoPau | cafuego: thanks a lto |
| 00:03.15 | MarcoPau | lot* |
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| 00:05.32 | mickeyks | is there a way i can check to see what kind of soundcard i have without opening the box? |
| 00:05.44 | \Igor\ | mickeyks: run lspci |
| 00:06.07 | mickeyks | thanks |
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| 00:06.59 | whoami9801 | does anybody feel like answering a stupid newb question on why i cant get my x-server to run? |
| 00:07.15 | mickeyks | just ask it |
| 00:07.31 | caphuso | whoami9801: because you forgot to put the graphic card into your computer |
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| 00:08.14 | whoami9801 | first time installing debian trying to use gnome and i get an error that says "fatal server error no screens found" |
| 00:08.15 | mickeyks | is a C-media CM8738 based on a C-media CMI8330? |
| 00:08.34 | caphuso | whoami9801: read /var/log/XFree86.0.log to find out what's wrong |
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| 00:08.40 | obake | i'm here |
| 00:08.43 | mickeyks | whoami9801: try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 00:08.56 | Justin | mickeyks: it's an 8738 |
| 00:09.46 | mickeyks | Justin: thanks...i don't see a choice for that in alsaconf |
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| 00:10.07 | Justin | mickeyks: cmi |
| 00:10.48 | NamShub | Hi. I was wondering if there was a .deb package, somewhere with OpenOffice with the KDE modifs... or else a page with instructions on how to compile this... :) |
| 00:11.20 | mickeyks | Justin: right...it's just that the only CMI option is "based on c-media CMI8330 chips" |
| 00:11.34 | Justin | then thats the one |
| 00:11.38 | mickeyks | ok |
| 00:11.39 | Justin | theres only one cmi driver for all the cards |
| 00:11.52 | mickeyks | ok |
| 00:12.10 | mickeyks | now it's asking for card identifier, with a default of CARD_0 |
| 00:12.19 | Justin | er actually |
| 00:12.22 | Justin | /data/src/linux-2.6.5/sound/isa/cmi8330.c |
| 00:12.22 | Justin | /data/src/linux-2.6.5/sound/pci/cmipci.c |
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| 00:12.39 | Justin | you probably did something wrong if you're not seeing the other one |
| 00:12.41 | mentor | gah. |
| 00:12.46 | mickeyks | um |
| 00:13.00 | mentor | GNOME GV can open PDFs...yet it refuses to unless told to do so on the command line... |
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| 00:13.15 | mickeyks | Justin: i use woody 2.4.160k6...could that be the issue? |
| 00:13.25 | thomas_adam | mentor: Gnome's GV is somewhat shit. |
| 00:13.30 | Justin | wtf is 2.4.160 |
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| 00:13.33 | mickeyks | 2.4.18-k6 |
| 00:13.38 | mickeyks | my mistake |
| 00:13.49 | mentor | thomas_adam: So is GV and GNOME PDF Viewer. |
| 00:13.56 | mentor | thomas_adam: GGV is the least shit of the lot |
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| 00:14.11 | Justin | no, you should have the cmi pci driver on that too |
| 00:14.46 | jbr | \Igor\: (eventually gets back to looking) xexec... grun... things in gnome-applets etc |
| 00:14.56 | mickeyks | ok i'll go back and do it again |
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| 00:15.48 | tell | let's all have a beer and look at our fine lookin desktop |
| 00:16.08 | mickeyks | Justin: i don't have a choice that says anything that looks like cmi pci driver |
| 00:16.19 | Starblazer | has anyone tried running UT2k4 with debian and have positive results, all I get are crashes due to UTF8 (I think) |
| 00:16.23 | obake | tell: my desktop doesn't look fine |
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| 00:16.57 | obake | Starblazer: i had run it once.. but the demo |
| 00:16.58 | tell | obake: why not? |
| 00:17.06 | tell | obake: have a beer anyway |
| 00:17.07 | Justin | mickeyks: find /lib/modules | grep cmi |
| 00:17.11 | obake | lol |
| 00:17.40 | Starblazer | hrmph, because i'm trying to do the dedicated server on woody, and it really doesn't like it after a mapchange. |
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| 00:18.24 | thomas_adam | !tell g4lt-away about away |
| 00:18.42 | mickeyks | Justin: it's there. maybe i'm not recognizing how it appears in the alsaconf menu |
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| 00:19.18 | jjazz | I have 512 MB of ram. Can anybody recommend a good size for my swap partition? |
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| 00:19.28 | Starblazer | jjazz: what are you doing with it? |
| 00:19.34 | obake | jjazz: 0? :) |
| 00:19.37 | Starblazer | server or desktop? |
| 00:19.40 | rellik | is apm what I want to make the power monitor work for my laptop ? |
| 00:19.40 | jjazz | desktop |
| 00:19.53 | mickeyks | Justin: found it. |
| 00:19.53 | Starblazer | i'd say 128? |
| 00:20.05 | mickeyks | does xterm count as a "sound application"? |
| 00:20.12 | elis | someone knows how to make work flash plugin in Opera (>= 7.23) in my debian sid? I tried all that i found on the net and did not work yet... |
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| 00:20.15 | jjazz | Starblazer: how do you determine how much or little swap you need? |
| 00:20.18 | dondelelcaro | thomas_adam: eh, /nick changing is tolerated somewhat... |
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| 00:20.43 | thomas_adam | aww, spoil all my fun. ;) |
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| 00:21.01 | mickeyks | ok...i really have no idea what to put for Card Identifier (default CARD_0) |
| 00:21.07 | cafuego | jjazz: Whatever you like. i have 1Gb (disk space is cheap and you can mount it as disk using tmpfs anyway) |
| 00:21.10 | jaxxan | does it usually take a long time when applying a patch to a kernel ? |
| 00:21.15 | mickeyks | is that asking what slot it's in? |
| 00:21.20 | andy__ | whats the apt command for description of a package? |
| 00:21.24 | cafuego | mickeyks: 'CARD_0' |
| 00:21.29 | Starblazer | jjazz, normally for servers in which I know it's not going to be maxed... ever... I'll throw a low swap |
| 00:21.39 | Starblazer | for a desktop you can have certain things paged out to swap. |
| 00:21.46 | mickeyks | cafuego: WSS IO port? |
| 00:21.49 | wols_ | andy__: apt-cache show |
| 00:22.00 | Starblazer | I've got 128 megs of swap on my laptop |
| 00:22.01 | cafuego | mickeyks: Irrelevant, it's just a label used in XF86Config-4 |
| 00:22.17 | mickeyks | cafuego: IRQ? |
| 00:22.21 | jjazz | OK. That works. Thanks |
| 00:22.27 | cafuego | mickeyks: X asks for an irq? |
| 00:22.29 | jjazz | cafuego, thanks |
| 00:22.40 | mickeyks | cafuego: it's alsaconf |
| 00:22.47 | cafuego | mickeyks: aaaaah :-) |
| 00:22.55 | cafuego | mickeyks: THEN I dunno |
| 00:23.05 | mickeyks | cafuego: er...does that mean i should have put different answers for those other questions...? |
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| 00:23.16 | cafuego | mickeyks: <heh> possibly... |
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| 00:23.36 | Wuffi600 | hi |
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| 00:24.10 | mickeyks | does anyone know what to tell alsa for "card identifier"? |
| 00:24.29 | mickeyks | cafuego thanks anyway |
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| 00:24.59 | obake | cafuego: what's up |
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| 00:25.11 | cafuego | obake: Ceiling at the moment |
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| 00:25.16 | andy__ | im a bit rusty with english, in the description of mindterm its written : |
| 00:25.24 | andy__ | Warning: By its very nature, installing this package and making it |
| 00:25.24 | andy__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:25.24 | andy__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:25.33 | andy__ | anybody can translate? |
| 00:25.38 | mickeyks | ha |
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| 00:25.51 | cafuego | andy__: If you're in franec, you're violating a law |
| 00:25.52 | dondelelcaro | andy__: if your country outlaws cryptography, you cannot use that software. |
| 00:25.54 | mickeyks | andy__: it means it might be illegal |
| 00:25.54 | cafuego | france |
| 00:26.15 | obake | cafuego: you always sarcastic |
| 00:26.18 | rellik | trying to get 3.0r2 installed... it hangs after "Compaq CISS Driver" ... how can I tell which option I need to supply to make it work? |
| 00:26.18 | tony | crypto is listed as a munitions (weapon) under international law |
| 00:26.27 | jeff | andy__: since you're putting mindterm on your web site as a java applet, you are making it available for download. this means that if your country forbids you from making crypto software available for export, you might reconsider. |
| 00:26.27 | andy__ | whaaat? some countries dont allow encryption?! |
| 00:26.41 | cafuego | obake: I can't help it, I used to be able to dose it, but since my gall bladder was removed the sarcasm just leaks out 24/7 |
| 00:26.44 | jeff | andy__: or just make the applet not available to everyone. |
| 00:26.59 | Wuffi600 | i have a question about rsync: i'm used to use "rsync ... rsync://user@server/share/deb/*.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/" to actualize my apt-dir. |
| 00:27.02 | Wuffi600 | i have noticed that if there are to many *.deb files in the server's deb-directory the command produces an error "rsync: read error: Connection reset by peer, rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(177)". could you help me please? |
| 00:27.08 | Ketter | obake: don't know cafuego any other way... |
| 00:27.16 | cafuego | andy__: Or justs ay "encryption export laws suck, fuck off government" |
| 00:27.17 | Ketter | obake: then he just is.. |
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| 00:27.28 | obake | hmm |
| 00:28.08 | andy__ | erm, this sounds extremely stupid to me, i really dont give a **** but man... who would outlaw a program thats encrypted and is running on my OWN box ... :P |
| 00:28.20 | mickeyks | alsa is saying that i have no sound cards defined, but i chose one in the alsaconf |
| 00:28.28 | cafuego | andy__: The french government. |
| 00:28.34 | obake | cafuego: forget the gall bladder... erm, is it still in a pot? |
| 00:28.58 | cafuego | obake: no, I only have the stones in a jar, the bladder istelf went to a lab to be analysed. |
| 00:29.07 | andy__ | but why would a goverment outlaw that!? |
| 00:29.14 | tony | andy__ , very pratical application of your freedom of speech |
| 00:29.18 | mickeyks | andy__: so they can spy on you |
| 00:29.21 | obake | heh |
| 00:29.24 | dan2 | these contacts are great! :) |
| 00:29.30 | Axioplase | ++ |
| 00:29.39 | jbr | andy__: and for a while the US (hence Debian Woody's "non-US" repositories) |
| 00:29.46 | andy__ | i understand its a french law, so by defenetion it doesnt makes any sence.. geez.. |
| 00:29.54 | dondelelcaro | jbr: the US still controls crypto export. |
| 00:30.05 | dondelelcaro | jbr: we just comply with the crypto export regulations. |
| 00:30.26 | cafuego | Mainly by expoerting crypto stuff from europe instead. |
| 00:30.32 | jbr | dondelelcaro: true, not as restrictive as some |
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| 00:30.57 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: no... there's a whole process that's gone through for it... see the whole crypto-in-main escapade... |
| 00:31.44 | hacim | this conversation has been funny |
| 00:32.27 | hacim | cafuego: "no, I only have the stones in a jar, the bladder istelf went to a lab to be analysed." Directly afterwards, andy__ says "but why would a goverment outlaw that!?" |
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| 00:32.58 | andy__ | lol |
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| 00:33.13 | Ketter | hacim: biochemical encrypted weapons.. your mind is doing overtime hacim :) |
| 00:33.15 | hacim | and of course, the response is: 20:29 < mickeyks> andy__: so they can spy on you |
| 00:33.17 | cafuego | hacim: Actually, coz things like gall bladders are technically biohazards ;-) |
| 00:33.18 | dondelelcaro | see http://www.debian.org/legal/cryptoinmain if you care... |
| 00:33.42 | hacim | cafuego: they are, and your stones... internationally classified toxic munitions |
| 00:33.48 | jbr | hacim: isn't pufferfishbladder an encryption protocol? |
| 00:33.49 | cafuego | hacim: yep |
| 00:33.57 | hacim | hehe |
| 00:34.15 | AfgBaby | Im trying to debootstrap sid but Im getting a dependency error, apt-utils depends on libdb4.2... shouldnt debootstrap just handle this? |
| 00:34.15 | cafuego | oh ffs! Is mod_frontpage is debian somewhere? |
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| 00:34.34 | mdh | cafuego: unfortunately :( |
| 00:34.45 | jbr | cafuego: libapache-mod-frontpage-mirfak |
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| 00:35.27 | sway__ | whats a webpage that has a list of all the apt sources in aus ? |
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| 00:35.44 | peterS | AfgBaby: it should, but it doesn't |
| 00:35.56 | mdh | sway__: http://www.google.com/ |
| 00:36.01 | mentor | ~info libapache-mod-frontpage-mirfak |
| 00:36.03 | sway__ | i have :( |
| 00:36.03 | peterS | AfgBaby: debootstrap has a hard-coded list of packages it tries to install. this list has to be maintained as dependencies evolve |
| 00:36.15 | gameduck | after i finish compile my kernel. how do i tell grub to boot it up from the new kernel? |
| 00:36.23 | AfgBaby | peterS: what can I do? Im installing from knoppix |
| 00:36.39 | peterS | AfgBaby: report it as a knoppix bug, I guess |
| 00:37.03 | AfgBaby | peterS: even when you debootstrap from the web? doesnt it just read what files and deps are needed from the mirror? |
| 00:37.11 | peterS | AfgBaby: nope |
| 00:37.27 | AfgBaby | peterS: what if I installed a newer version? |
| 00:37.53 | andy__ | Warning: By its very nature, installing this package and making it |
| 00:37.53 | andy__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:37.53 | andy__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:37.58 | peterS | AfgBaby: I don't know much about knoppix. neither do most other people here, as you'll note if you read the /topic |
| 00:37.58 | andy__ | whoops, sorry :) |
| 00:38.00 | sway__ | gameduck: edit the grub config file id imagine |
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| 00:38.29 | AfgBaby | peterS: Im not refering to knoppix, I mean if I use a newer version of debootstrap? |