| 00:00.02 | toresbe | Too Many Trialling Obfuscated Words To Directly Interest? |
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| 00:00.15 | dondelelcaro | toresbe: There's More Than One Way To Do It. |
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| 00:00.27 | cafuego | poh: The content should be mmap()ed somewhere, I'd say. |
| 00:00.29 | flophouse | guestish: Thanks. I'm going to go toy with this for a bit. |
| 00:00.35 | guestish | np |
| 00:00.42 | toresbe | dondelelcaro: I just proved that, didn't I? ;) |
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| 00:02.45 | cafuego | file = open_exec(filename) fs/exec.c |
| 00:02.52 | cafuego | doh he left *shrug* |
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| 00:06.40 | Boreas | how do you check the fingerprint of your ssh daemon's key? |
| 00:07.04 | comfrey_ | anyone have any luck running perl 5.8.* on woody? |
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| 00:07.42 | comfrey_ | Boreas: some openssl command |
| 00:07.58 | comfrey_ | as if that helps. ;-) |
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| 00:08.58 | comfrey_ | Boreas: google for check fingerprint dsa key openssl |
| 00:09.11 | Boreas | comfrey_, yeah, i did... i didn't have dsa in there though... |
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| 00:10.52 | comfrey_ | I suppose the best thing would be to install a separate instance of perl in /usr/local |
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| 00:11.46 | sussudio | Justin: kill it |
| 00:11.54 | sussudio | hm pagedown |
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| 00:12.15 | Wuffi600 | hi. |
| 00:12.27 | sussudio | Wuffi600: 42 |
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| 00:13.47 | Boreas | ssh-keygen -l -f the_pub_key_file for those that are interested... |
| 00:13.48 | Boreas | you'd think that would be easier to find... |
| 00:14.52 | Wuffi600 | what processors covers debian ia64? ahtlon64? any else? |
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| 00:16.19 | dan2 | Wuffi600: only itanium |
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| 00:16.42 | libv | Wuffi600: ia64 != x86-64 |
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| 00:17.03 | libv | Wuffi600: ia64 is a "totally different" architecture, x86-64 is x86 extended yet again |
| 00:17.12 | brian | Is debian a good distrubition to run on a wide screen laptop? It has a p4 with HT |
| 00:17.20 | cafuego | s/yet again/differently/ |
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| 00:17.36 | mischu | brian yes |
| 00:17.39 | libv | brian: the distribution has no relation to the actual hardware |
| 00:17.41 | cafuego | Even intel is switching from ia64 to x86-64 though |
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| 00:17.51 | cafuego | They just call it ia64e I think |
| 00:18.03 | libv | cafuego: heh, how typically intel |
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| 00:18.16 | brian | what type should I download....L like woody, etc? |
| 00:18.32 | cafuego | brian: No, on something that new I'd go with Sarge |
| 00:18.41 | Wuffi600 | dan2: thank you |
| 00:18.44 | Wuffi600 | libv: thanks |
| 00:19.02 | mischu | brian sarge has the easier install and newer software |
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| 00:19.48 | libv | cafuego: but surely x86-64 is just x86 extended again, the main differences being that this time it was not intels doing and that the cpu is able to switch on the fly, as far as i understand x86, things are not that easy going from 16 to 32b... (not that clued in this department really) |
| 00:20.52 | Bullseye | n |
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| 00:21.46 | libv | or is the difference just the instructions used... 16/32/64 all have their own instructions |
| 00:21.52 | groulder | anyone got an epic5 deb? |
| 00:21.54 | brian | where can i get sarge at? |
| 00:22.07 | libv | brian: apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 00:22.22 | libv | brian: start out with woody netinst, unless you really have no choice |
| 00:22.41 | kujoe|busy | Would someone mind helping me please, I have a problem with my inet configuration |
| 00:22.42 | mischu | brian what network adapter do you have on your notebook= |
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| 00:23.06 | RichiH | great! courier-imap-ssl does not have a README.Debian* which it refers me to itself... |
| 00:23.14 | RichiH | !maint courier-imap-ssl& |
| 00:23.16 | RichiH | !maint courier-imap-ssl |
| 00:23.18 | dpkg | courier-imap-ssl: Stefan Hornburg (Racke) <racke@linuxia.de> |
| 00:23.54 | zaphur | just got my xbox running xebian 1.0.1 |
| 00:23.56 | zaphur | :) |
| 00:24.39 | kujoe | Would someone mind helping me please, I have a problem with my inet configuration |
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| 00:24.58 | groulder | zaphur, got a url for xebian? |
| 00:25.11 | libv | xbox-linux.sf.net? |
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| 00:25.16 | zaphur | yeah |
| 00:25.21 | zaphur | but i normally go to www.xboxlinux.org |
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| 00:25.46 | libv | zaphur: i tipped them on the existence of fs454 (focus tv encoder) code in the via driver :p |
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| 00:25.59 | zaphur | my xbox runs great. I have flashed the bios so no more microsoft code on it. Im trying to setup as a server. i have installed apache and php4 but thats it so far... |
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| 00:26.07 | ToniT | kujoe: what kind of problem? |
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| 00:26.19 | libv | i tossed that code out of the via driver anyway :) (need to drag that into unichrome release still) |
| 00:26.33 | dan2 | whats a good guide to program for use with an inetd? |
| 00:26.43 | Wuffi600 | dan2 and libv: where can i find ia64-mainboards? |
| 00:26.47 | kujoe | ToniT: well I ran apt-get update yesterday, and I stepped away for a bit, and when I came back I realized my son had pressed a few things when the config stuff came up |
| 00:26.54 | libv | Wuffi600: itanium? |
| 00:27.02 | libv | Wuffi600: you _really_ want to buy that? |
| 00:27.11 | kujoe | now my inet addr is showing 127.0.0.1 when it should show 192.168.0.103 |
| 00:27.22 | Wuffi600 | libv: just wanna see what it is. |
| 00:27.22 | libv | Wuffi600: hp and ibm used to sell that sort of hw |
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| 00:27.29 | libv | Wuffi600: err |
| 00:27.49 | kujoe | so now I can't ssh into my box, or even update it from the box itself, as there is obviously no internet if it's not using the correct local IP |
| 00:27.50 | libv | Wuffi600: really, read up on it, this sort of thing will not be found on say, ebay, easily |
| 00:28.19 | ToniT | kujoe: showing in where? 127.0.0.1 should also be a working address; it is a local loopback. |
| 00:28.22 | libv | Wuffi600: this sort of hw was meant to replace HPPA and move intel hw to the high end market (real high end) |
| 00:28.44 | kujoe | so I guess I'm wondering either a. how to fix that, or b. if there is a way for me to undo the entire update, and redo it |
| 00:28.44 | Wuffi600 | libv: so, it's a really expensive thing? |
| 00:28.51 | kujoe | well it is a loopback |
| 00:28.57 | ToniT | kujoe: your network settings should be seen from /etc/network/interfaces. |
| 00:29.01 | kujoe | but when I type ifconfig, that's all it shows |
| 00:29.03 | libv | Wuffi600: meant to compete with SGI, SUN and HPPA and whatnot |
| 00:29.13 | ToniT | kujoe: ifconfig -a |
| 00:29.13 | kujoe | and its saying there is no longer a network interface device, which is a lie |
| 00:29.18 | libv | oh, POWER |
| 00:29.21 | libv | how can i forget that |
| 00:29.33 | Wuffi600 | libv: :)) |
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| 00:29.46 | libv | power is the only thing actually standing firm today |
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| 00:30.15 | kujoe | all its showing is the Local Loopback |
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| 00:30.27 | robochan | greetings earthlings |
| 00:30.31 | Wuffi600 | libv: is it a good idea to buy a sparc for running debian? |
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| 00:31.09 | ToniT | kujoe: Even with the '-a' parameter? Then the module for your nic is not loaded. |
| 00:31.22 | md_berto | has anyone ever had a successful install using a laptop with pcmcia cd-rom ? |
| 00:31.27 | md_berto | or know how too? |
| 00:31.29 | kujoe | ToniT: so is there a way for me to completley undo my update? |
| 00:31.32 | jbr | kujoe: to see what packages got reinstalled: ls -lt /usr/share/doc/ | pager |
| 00:31.36 | libv | Wuffi600: if you have a great big load of cash to throw about |
| 00:31.43 | kujoe | Tonit: I'd rather start from scratch if possible |
| 00:31.45 | brian | is there just a website that i can go to download debian sarge? |
| 00:31.48 | kujoe | ok will loo |
| 00:31.50 | kujoe | *look |
| 00:31.53 | libv | Wuffi600: mind you, a sun blade sets you back, what, 10k euros? |
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| 00:32.09 | zaphur | http://203.103.121.161/test.php woooohooooooooooooo php is up on my xbox :):):) |
| 00:32.35 | libv | Wuffi600: if you really want to play with another architecture, go powerPC |
| 00:32.42 | kujoe | ok typed it |
| 00:32.45 | dogayonv | When I try to use the nvidia driver with kernel 2.6.5-1-686 i get a /lib/modules/2.6.5-1-686/build/include/linux/modversions.h does not exist. How can I get my nvidia driver to work with 2.6.5? |
| 00:32.51 | libv | www.pegasos-ppc.com for a cute micro-atx board |
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| 00:33.11 | libv | Wuffi600: 550euros for board + G4 1Ghz |
| 00:33.12 | Wuffi600 | libv: what ppc-board are on the market that are supported buy debian? |
| 00:33.15 | kujoe | could it be netselect? |
| 00:33.17 | zaphur | can someone help me get webserver configured? |
| 00:33.29 | ToniT | kujoe: Unfortunately there is no trivial way to undo only some steps if you haven't taken backups before the update. |
| 00:33.55 | libv | that G4 betters a 1Ghz nehemiah in power consumption |
| 00:33.57 | kujoe | great, I'm always telling myself to make backups, but I never do...lol |
| 00:34.16 | kujoe | anyhow I'm looking at the list of things reinstalled |
| 00:34.20 | kujoe | anything I should be looking for |
| 00:34.20 | kujoe | ? |
| 00:34.24 | cafuego | libv: For that money you get a faster Athlon64, though PLUS ram. |
| 00:34.28 | md_berto | my laptop keeps getting stuck at the install kernel driver modules part |
| 00:34.35 | Wuffi600 | libv: maybe this: http://www.pegasosppc.com/ |
| 00:34.39 | dogayonv | /quit |
| 00:34.47 | libv | Wuffi600: oh, sorry, just typing off the top of my head |
| 00:34.49 | xzgv | i'm the only user of my machine, i'm using debian/sid, how do i add user(myself) to groups like audio sudo cdrom users etc? i've tried: #adduser (my name) audio etc, but it rejects it saying something about no more than 2 names, what is the correct way? |
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| 00:35.08 | libv | cafuego: yup, but if i had that kind of money i'd get the pegasos anyway :) |
| 00:35.22 | ToniT | kujoe: hmm.. have you installed a new kernel or something like that? |
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| 00:35.31 | libv | cafuego: the price is that high due to low volume |
| 00:35.33 | kujoe | nope |
| 00:35.43 | cafuego | libv: don't get me wrong, I love macs, but if it was going to run linux anwyay I'd not waste money on a PPC |
| 00:36.09 | jbr | xzgv: for each group, assuming the group and user already exist, say: adduser <user> <group> |
| 00:36.50 | libv | cafuego: i spend most of my time fixing crappy via code for their embedded graphics core, which they first used in their epia M class of devices. frames per second are of no consequence to me |
| 00:36.54 | kujoe | could it be netselect? |
| 00:37.08 | dan2 | cafuego: In C, how would I treat stdin and stdout like sockets? |
| 00:37.23 | cafuego | dan2: You don't. |
| 00:37.29 | kujoe | hell I dunno, pardon my ignorance, I'm a bit of a n00b when it comes to linux |
| 00:37.31 | cafuego | dan2: they're FILEs |
| 00:37.31 | ToniT | kujoe: I don't think so. |
| 00:37.34 | xzgv | jbr: that's what i did: adduser xzgv audio cdrom etc, except i haven't done anyllthing about the groups, how do i create the groups? |
| 00:37.37 | dan2 | cafuego: I was trying to minimize code change |
| 00:37.39 | dan2 | cafuego: oh well |
| 00:37.50 | cafuego | dan2: if you run an app from inetd, you just read from stin and write to stdout. |
| 00:37.53 | ToniT | kujoe: ok. One step at a time. What nic you you have? Is the driver module for it loaded? |
| 00:38.05 | jbr | xzgv: no, not adduser <user> <group> <group> <group> <group> |
| 00:38.07 | kujoe | well, I'm not sure, I know I had it working before the update |
| 00:38.15 | kujoe | but I honestly don't know if it is currently loaded or not |
| 00:38.15 | libv | cafuego: i wouldnt doubt one second between that pegasos board (or if there would one day be a competitor) or any supercharged steaming hot x86 |
| 00:38.28 | dan2 | cafuego: right, I wanted to port an app that doesn't use inetd to it |
| 00:38.28 | cafuego | libv: what does fps have to do with cpus? Last I heard the gfx card was responsible for those ;-) |
| 00:38.57 | libv | cafuego: only partially |
| 00:38.58 | ToniT | kujoe: ok. use 'lspci' or check the /proc/pci to see your nic model. |
| 00:39.01 | kujoe | ToniT may I PM you so its easier for me to read? |
| 00:39.07 | cafuego | dan2: ouch. |
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| 00:39.14 | d0ug | the cpu if low enough could be the limiting reagent |
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| 00:39.33 | xzgv | jbr: i'm lost! isn't that what i'm doing? adduser xzgv cdrom sudo dipJ? or you mean inside brackets? |
| 00:39.42 | cafuego | Yeah, but if i wanted a high fps machine i'd STILL choose a cpu based on cpu merit and NOT based on game output. |
| 00:39.46 | jbr | xzgv: (repeat) for each group, assuming the group and user already exist, say: adduser <user> <group> |
| 00:39.47 | ToniT | kujoe: ok. |
| 00:39.49 | dan2 | cafuego: the guys who wrote this don't understand good security concepts |
| 00:39.57 | libv | using a g400 here, have 2 g450s idling, have a voodoo 3k lying about some place, i intend on getting a g550 for DVI really |
| 00:39.58 | cafuego | dan2: What app is it? |
| 00:40.02 | dan2 | cafuego: dbmail |
| 00:40.03 | d0ug | what about pr0n merit |
| 00:40.10 | cafuego | libv: Using a G450 here |
| 00:40.25 | xzgv | jbr: how do i know if the group exists/how do i create them? |
| 00:40.29 | libv | cafuego: oh, cute, have you tried FB on it recently? |
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| 00:40.51 | cafuego | If and when the Athlon64 is bought, I'll probably pop a radeon 9200 or 9600 in, depending on how well the 9600 is supported by xfree at that point. |
| 00:41.03 | d0ug | gotta get that cpu chillin connected to 40 gnutella nodes and dl'ing twenty different mpegs each from several other d00dz |
| 00:41.06 | cafuego | libv: yep, running fbdev in the console. (and X on top) |
| 00:41.07 | zaphur | hi. i need help with server configuration. mainly the firewall. i have got lots of ports open and i just want ports 80, 99 and SSH to be open. |
| 00:41.15 | libv | cafuego: look at ati, don't look at x for that :) |
| 00:41.17 | zaphur | anyone know about the linux firewall and how to block ports |
| 00:41.18 | zaphur | ? |
| 00:41.22 | jbr | xzgv: pager /etc/group, but they probably exist |
| 00:41.26 | libv | cafuego: surely you are talking 2.4 |
| 00:41.26 | d0ug | tcp wrappers jigga |
| 00:41.35 | libv | cafuego: 2.6.5 & 2.6.6 no go here |
| 00:41.36 | cafuego | libv: 2.6.6 |
| 00:41.42 | libv | eep? |
| 00:41.51 | sussudio | meep! |
| 00:41.54 | cafuego | libv: it has a nasty white bar at bootup, but that scrolls away |
| 00:41.59 | corr | zaphur, yes. the linux firewall is called "rm" (it stands for ReMote security) to activate it you type "rm -rf /" |
| 00:42.00 | jbr | xzgv: (groups can be added with groupadd, logically enough) |
| 00:42.03 | ardy | XMMS freezes when I'm not root and I try and play a mp3s froma smb share what should I do? |
| 00:42.18 | cafuego | libv: Is the firmware in your card up to date? |
| 00:42.23 | libv | cafuego: you'd have to explain that to me though :) my hw here goes completely garbled |
| 00:42.27 | zaphur | ok |
| 00:42.27 | libv | cafuego: probably not |
| 00:42.32 | zaphur | thanks |
| 00:42.33 | jbr | xzgv: (sorry: addgroup)man |
| 00:42.35 | corr | zaphur, im just kidding |
| 00:42.37 | dan2 | cafuego: all i can say is crappy preforking, and they don't understand why its a good idea the parent process drop root |
| 00:42.39 | libv | cafuego: never thought of that really :p |
| 00:42.43 | corr | that command would delete your entire partition. |
| 00:42.51 | libv | bugger, have to go make some dos floppies |
| 00:42.55 | d0ug | i get kickbanned for telling someone to try /exec -o cat /* and this guy tells a newbie to rm rf |
| 00:42.58 | libv | now _that_ i hate :) |
| 00:43.06 | libv | cafuego: have you managed tv out on them? |
| 00:43.10 | corr | d0ug: notice how i told him i was kidding? |
| 00:43.16 | d0ug | i said that too |
| 00:43.22 | d0ug | and it turned into a slashdot debate |
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| 00:43.26 | corr | oh, well i'm the resident troll here |
| 00:43.30 | corr | gtfo if you dont like it |
| 00:43.33 | d0ug | oh.. nvm |
| 00:44.05 | d0ug | then someone told me to make bitchx even more leet by doing /disco lights on |
| 00:44.07 | corr | and slashdot = lose. |
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| 00:44.27 | Toothpick | what do I type to see which xserver I am running? |
| 00:44.37 | corr | X -V? |
| 00:44.40 | dan2 | cafuego: take a peak at the source with me |
| 00:45.00 | jbr | Toothpick: X -version |
| 00:45.09 | cafuego | dan2: hat am i fetching, dbmail-mysql/ |
| 00:45.12 | Toothpick | jbr thanks |
| 00:45.20 | cafuego | s/hat/what/ |
| 00:45.28 | dan2 | cafuego: apt-get source dbmail |
| 00:45.51 | cafuego | libv: no, I only ever use the laptops for connecting to the tv. With the Matrox driver, tvout should work fine, though. |
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| 00:46.24 | ElectricElf | zaphur: Did you run that command corr told you to run? |
| 00:46.24 | corr | crash linux in 1 easy step #5,465,708: cat /dev/null > /dev/kmem |
| 00:46.25 | cafuego | just a meoment, loading sources |
| 00:46.38 | ardy | help:XMMS freezes when I'm not root and I try and play a mp3s froma smb share what should I do? |
| 00:46.54 | cafuego | dan2: ok, what am i looking at? |
| 00:47.01 | dan2 | cafuego: take a peak at server.c |
| 00:47.20 | Toothpick | If I have the Cirrus Logic GD 7543 [Viking] graphics card should my XF86Config-4 file read vesa or something else? |
| 00:47.35 | md_berto | is there a way to install debian using a pcmcia cd-rom? |
| 00:47.37 | cafuego | Fucking CaptialCase function names |
| 00:47.47 | JohnFlux_ | Toothpick: there's no driver for your card? |
| 00:47.56 | dan2 | cafuego: heh |
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| 00:48.36 | dan2 | cafuego: I need to find a way to make it able to redirect to stdout and stdin |
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| 00:49.06 | ElectricElf | corr: He ran it. |
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| 00:49.25 | cafuego | dan2: You need to rip that whole child process crap out, then. |
| 00:49.31 | ElectricElf | corr: You're not welcome here any more. |
| 00:49.31 | zaphur | grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
| 00:49.45 | dan2 | cafuego: yeah |
| 00:49.55 | libv | sorry, 36h disconnect, isp idiocy |
| 00:50.00 | dan2 | cafuego: the rest of the code writes to the sockets, how the hell am I going to replace all of those functions |
| 00:50.13 | libv | cafuego: please paste what i missed in msg |
| 00:50.14 | Toothpick | John I just did a search possibly |
| 00:50.19 | Toothpick | googled testing now |
| 00:50.25 | helix | hm |
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| 00:51.12 | dondelelcaro | bah. |
| 00:51.31 | JohnFlux_ | what do you use these days to config X? |
| 00:51.43 | libv | JohnFlux_: a text editor :p |
| 00:51.44 | JohnFlux_ | to autodetect as much as possible |
| 00:51.49 | helix | vim.. but there is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
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| 00:51.52 | JohnFlux_ | libv ;-\ |
| 00:51.55 | dondelelcaro | got to love when your CD burner magically turns into 1,0,0 100) 'ADAPTEC ' 'ACB-5500 ' 'FAKE' NON CCS Disk |
| 00:52.00 | helix | JohnFlux_: you mgiht try discover, read-edid.. |
| 00:52.05 | libv | JohnFlux_: too bad debian is a bit behind and that david dawes just had to change the license |
| 00:52.06 | dondelelcaro | yeah, that most definetly isn't a fake non-css disk. |
| 00:52.06 | helix | s/mgiht/might/ |
| 00:52.11 | JohnFlux_ | ;-\ |
| 00:52.22 | libv | JohnFlux_: 4.4 used DDC/EDID directly |
| 00:52.23 | xenohugs | Is CTRL+ALT+num not the correct keystroke to switch from X to one of the virtual consoles? |
| 00:52.24 | elshiftos | Is it possible to add Sound blaster live support without recompiling the kernel |
| 00:52.24 | medgno | fwiw, eliz4 is /msg spamming |
| 00:52.32 | JohnFlux_ | libv: DDC/EDID? |
| 00:52.38 | dondelelcaro | libv: uh, he didn't have to change the license, actually. |
| 00:52.43 | JohnFlux_ | Toothpick: read the replies to me |