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| 00:00.11 | Caveman- | somiaj: oh thats a GOOD IDEA>. |
| 00:00.14 | Caveman- | thanks :d |
| 00:00.21 | dracula | medgno, I selected 'Dont use keymap' and retried, but it still fails :( |
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| 00:00.39 | medgno | dracula: hrm.. i don't know then |
| 00:00.49 | plaidpenguin | jcarr, same here.. css is too well supported now to ignore it for design imo |
| 00:00.52 | plagerism | How do I burn to an ATAPI cdburner using dev=ATA with cdrecord?? |
| 00:00.54 | simonrvn | looks like i fixed my x problem. had to run fc-cache -f |
| 00:00.57 | simonrvn | yay |
| 00:01.07 | simonrvn | gvim started in seconds instead of minutes |
| 00:01.17 | scruffy | can anyone tell me why php4-gd depends on libapache2-mod-php4 (which depends on apache2)? |
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| 00:01.21 | FieldySnuts | plagerism: you using a 2.6 kernel? |
| 00:01.30 | dracula | hmm... the error mentions (--unpack)... might be a corrupted .deb file? :s |
| 00:01.30 | plagerism | FieldySnuts, yes I am |
| 00:01.31 | jcarr | sides, ever see a tabled page in lynx? utter disgust |
| 00:01.36 | plaidpenguin | FieldySnuts, on a few boxes yes, why |
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| 00:01.42 | thomas_adam | FieldySnuts: sssh, if he tells you, he'll be cheating on himself. |
| 00:01.45 | plaidpenguin | FieldySnuts, nm, wrong name ;) |
| 00:01.51 | cockroach | is there a mail client (except sylpheed) which can access jpilot's address book and/or a way to make sylpheed talk to an IMAP3 server? |
| 00:01.56 | FieldySnuts | plagerism: okay. writing is done through the native ide interface. you should just be able to use dev=/dev/hdc or whatever your cd writer is. |
| 00:02.00 | khert | what's the easiest way to clone a linux harddrive? |
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| 00:02.07 | plagerism | FieldySnuts, Thanx |
| 00:02.07 | FieldySnuts | or was it native ide-cd interface. whatever, same result |
| 00:02.09 | deadcat | khert: dd |
| 00:02.20 | scruffy | is there a reason why there is no php4-gd for use with apache 1.3.x in sarge? |
| 00:02.25 | somiaj | khert: cp -A (if you want to copy it to a different size partition) |
| 00:02.27 | FieldySnuts | i think only recent versions of cdrtools can handle that, by the way. |
| 00:02.28 | khert | will this work: dd if=/dev/hdc of=/dev/hdd? |
| 00:02.32 | rox | if kill -9 doesn't kill a userland process ... what's wrong with it? |
| 00:02.37 | FieldySnuts | khert: what are you trying to do? |
| 00:02.48 | plagerism | FieldySnuts, so I can specify that in the /etc/defaults/cdrecord file as well? |
| 00:02.50 | somiaj | rox: is it defunct or zombied? |
| 00:02.53 | khert | FS: just clone an entire drive |
| 00:02.57 | rox | somiaj: defunct |
| 00:03.00 | FieldySnuts | plagerism: not sure, i've always passed it at the command line |
| 00:03.04 | deadcat | khert: are they same size? i am currently running mirrordir on my partitions... (= |
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| 00:03.17 | khert | yes they'r the exact same drive |
| 00:03.24 | somiaj | rox: you can't kill it (though it could be waiting for its parent to die) |
| 00:03.42 | FieldySnuts | khert: if the destination is equal to or larger in size, yeah. and you'll just end up with wasted space at the end. a better way is to create a similar partition and filesystem layout on it, mount the second, and rsync over. |
| 00:03.42 | rox | somiaj: so how do i get rid of it? |
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| 00:03.51 | rox | somiaj: kill it's parent? |
| 00:03.59 | FieldySnuts | well, maybe it's not better, but same result. |
| 00:04.08 | somiaj | rox: I belive that is the solution...(:, I just know you can't kill it directly |
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| 00:04.15 | FieldySnuts | rsync takes extra precautions to make sure things get done, dd just flings it out there. |
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| 00:04.36 | scruffy | is there a reason why there is no php4-gd for use with apache 1.3.x in sarge? |
| 00:04.42 | FieldySnuts | if you do use rsync, make sure to use -D so device files get handled right. |
| 00:04.43 | deadcat | khert: try mirrordir, aint bad |
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| 00:05.29 | Azog | there is xorg server in apt ? |
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| 00:06.08 | bisen | is there a user space based toolkit that i can use to control my speed step or interface with cpufreqd |
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| 00:06.56 | cromero | ssh diego@duncan.ldc.usn.ve |
| 00:06.59 | cromero | ssh diego@duncan.ldc.usb.ve |
| 00:07.29 | Azog | there is xorg server in apt ? |
| 00:08.08 | FieldySnuts | !ask |
| 00:08.08 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask away on channel. If somebody knows, they'll answer :) For best results, be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic! Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Also don't ask if anyone uses/knows about foo. Please don't be demanding or insulting. Remember, we're all volunteers. Finally, please don't /msg people without permission or demand an answer from one particular person. Thanks! |
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| 00:09.47 | Lnxnerd55 | I have a weird kernel panic in debian. i took a screenshot of it. can someone please tell me what's up with this? http://www.peoplesprimary.com/?n=dj28 |
| 00:10.31 | deadcat | Lnxnerd55: thats advertising bitch |
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| 00:10.50 | Lnxnerd55 | it's a screenshot |
| 00:10.52 | Lnxnerd55 | of my screen |
| 00:10.56 | Lnxnerd55 | i don't know what's happening |
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| 00:11.23 | Lnxnerd55 | can no one help me? |
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| 00:11.42 | Lnxnerd55 | http://www.peoplesprimary.com/?n=dj28 <- screenshot there |
| 00:11.53 | deadcat | if its a screenshot. shoulnt it be a .jpg or something? |
| 00:12.01 | Lnxnerd55 | it's an image hosting place |
| 00:12.02 | deadcat | Lnxnerd55: we just dont trust you tahts all |
| 00:12.07 | Lnxnerd55 | they all have unique urls |
| 00:12.10 | elshiftos | kick him |
| 00:12.16 | bignose | screenshots as JPEG? bleah |
| 00:12.23 | somiaj | that was some sick shit..... |
| 00:12.33 | anothernick | i bet it is |
| 00:12.37 | FieldySnuts | !ops |
| 00:12.37 | dpkg | Meet your friendly #debian operators: asuffield, bdale, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk |
| 00:12.42 | FieldySnuts | damn get that guy outta here |
| 00:12.48 | Lnxnerd55 | http://www.peoplesprimary.com/?n=dj28 <- screenshot there |
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| 00:12.51 | FieldySnuts | sigh |
| 00:12.55 | elshiftos | goatse fscker |
| 00:13.01 | FieldySnuts | whoever did that, thanks |
| 00:13.09 | deadcat | thank god i didnt fall for that dumbshit |
| 00:13.16 | bignose | FieldySnuts: he did it himself |
| 00:13.16 | idnar | haha |
| 00:13.20 | anothernick | is that you Lnx ? |
| 00:13.31 | idnar | bignose: he K-lined himself? |
| 00:13.52 | bignose | idnar: ah, no, not that. |
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| 00:14.25 | ffips | hello all |
| 00:14.49 | somiaj | greetings |
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| 00:15.17 | miles_ | Using cmd line ftp how do I send all folders and files contained in them? |
| 00:15.21 | dan2 | FieldySnuts: haha k-lined, good job *.staff.freenode |
| 00:15.30 | cafuego | Lnxnerd55: Go and spam somewhere else. |
| 00:15.33 | miles_ | (Without confirming each one) |
| 00:15.37 | FieldySnuts | cafuego: long gone |
| 00:15.57 | deadcat | (= |
| 00:15.57 | cafuego | FieldySnuts: yeah, I had 100+ lag |
| 00:15.59 | dan2 | cafuego: he got k-lined |
| 00:16.07 | FieldySnuts | cafuego: it was some very, very very nasty goatsex stuff anyway... |
| 00:16.31 | deadcat | FieldySnuts: haha you felt for it? (= man you are too nice to help.,.. |
| 00:16.37 | FieldySnuts | :P |
| 00:16.41 | FieldySnuts | i've had worse |
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| 00:16.55 | sussudio | FieldySnuts: http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com/ |
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| 00:17.07 | cafuego | dan2: FieldySnuts collccts disgusting goatsex stuff |
| 00:17.08 | apacker | were there a ton of upgrade made to X in testing recently? |
| 00:17.18 | FieldySnuts | no no no. |
| 00:17.20 | deadcat | whats goatsex? i dont get this word |
| 00:17.29 | FieldySnuts | be happy |
| 00:17.34 | sussudio | deadcat: afghans do |
| 00:17.36 | apacker | I just did an apt-get update, upgrade, and it wants to get 58 megs of stuff, mostly things starting with x... |
| 00:17.43 | cafuego | deadcat: it's a reference to an image of a guy pulling his asshole open, so you can see inside |
| 00:17.45 | apacker | how can I check to see when a package was most recently updated? |
| 00:17.53 | deadcat | cafuego: oh... hehe |
| 00:18.04 | jbr | apacker: I just use ls -lt /usr/share/doc |
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| 00:18.39 | mick_laptop | to tell howmuch ram in on a videocard - where can i find thaat in /proc? |
| 00:18.48 | cafuego | mick_laptop: lspci should tell you |
| 00:18.50 | apacker | um, I guess I mean "officially" - as in, was the package just updated and I havent downloaded it yet? |
| 00:19.04 | smacnay_ | if I install the gs-gpl, as is happening with my dist-upgrade (Sarge), can I remove gs? |
| 00:19.06 | DrPete | I wanna test me spamfilter, how do i get loads of spam sent to me |
| 00:19.10 | RichiH | deadcat: you don't know goatse? you must be the only person on the internet not to know that pic ;) |
| 00:19.10 | mick_laptop | ah ok - i thought it would be something like cat /proc/.... |
| 00:19.17 | cafuego | DrPete: Post to a usenet group and wait 2 days |
| 00:19.28 | ffips | DrPete hit the porn sites |
| 00:19.29 | deadcat | apacker: apt-get update && apt-get dist-ugrade. just dont press Y (= |
| 00:19.29 | DrPete | cafuego: heh, i need it now :) |
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| 00:19.34 | cafuego | mick_laptop: that's essentially what 'lspci' does <heh> |
| 00:19.44 | plaidpenguin | DrPete, register.com does a good job too |
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| 00:19.48 | DrPete | lol |
| 00:19.51 | apacker | deadcat, what? that doesnt make sense... |
| 00:19.51 | deadcat | RichiH: no. dont know what that is. but i read that alot on slashdot (= |
| 00:20.02 | cafuego | DrPete: Gimme your email address and I'll bounce all 2000+ spams I get to yo |
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| 00:20.11 | mick_laptop | ty |
| 00:20.11 | RichiH | deadcat: heh, ok |
| 00:20.14 | apacker | This is really annoying. There must be SOME way to tell when a package has been updated! |
| 00:20.23 | apacker | without downloading and installing it! |
| 00:20.27 | cafuego | apacker: 'aptitude' keeps logs |
| 00:20.31 | DrPete | cafuego: lol |
| 00:20.33 | apacker | the dates on the changelogs dont seem to be it... |
| 00:20.39 | apacker | cafuego, aptitude sucks |
| 00:20.56 | plaidpenguin | i think aptitude is pretty nice personally |
| 00:20.58 | cafuego | Well, feel free to add a logging facility to apt-get, then. |
| 00:21.03 | apacker | cafuego, and doesnt that just keep logs of when something has been updated on YOUR SYSTEM?! |
| 00:21.14 | deadcat | apacker: if you apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade, it will try to install the lastest. just dont install them.. |
| 00:21.17 | DrPete | spamme@schooltechnicians.co.uk |
| 00:21.38 | cafuego | apacker: Well, duh, it won't keep logs of what has updated on MINE. |
| 00:21.41 | apacker | cafuego, not necessarily when the updated packages started appearing in the Debian Official Repositories. |
| 00:21.46 | sigjuice | hi |
| 00:21.54 | apacker | cafuego, do you understand the question? When did debian release a new version X |
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| 00:22.08 | apacker | cafuego, unless you update your machine every minute, you cannot tell me the answer to that exactly |
| 00:22.08 | ffips | can someone tell me about netenv? |
| 00:22.15 | techorix | hm how can i compare two files with bash? a=`cat file1` b=`cat file2` if[$a==$b]; then echo ok; ? |
| 00:22.17 | apollock | Hey does anyone know what time dinstall runs? |
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| 00:22.21 | apacker | cafuego, is there not somewhere in the whole internet that has a log of this info??!?!?! |
| 00:22.34 | deadcat | techorix: diff? |
| 00:22.38 | cafuego | apacker: The maintainer knows. |
| 00:22.40 | elshiftos | Badger..Badger..Badger..Badger.......can't get that out of my head now! |
| 00:22.46 | apacker | cafuego, why is it a secret? |
| 00:22.49 | cafuego | apacker: I don't see how it would matter, though. |
| 00:23.01 | jbr | apacker: have you seen snapshot.debian.net? |
| 00:23.04 | techorix | deadcat, hmmm good idea, how would that look in an if statement for bash? |
| 00:23.11 | apacker | apacker, I want to know if it's right that I suddendly need to download an ENTIRE NEW X SYSTEM or if sometihng could be wrong with my packaging system!! |
| 00:23.18 | timofonic | Im interested on a program that runs as a daemon, and he connects to the |
| 00:23.23 | timofonic | irc networks that i like, with the nickname on each network that i like, on the |
| 00:23.26 | cafuego | apacker: No, it's NECESSARY. |
| 00:23.26 | jbr | apacker: who's forcing you to download it? |
| 00:23.31 | deadcat | techorix: cmp file1 fiel2 && do someshit |
| 00:23.36 | timofonic | channels of each network that i like, identify the nickname on each network, |
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| 00:23.46 | cafuego | apacker: This is what a changelog is for. if you don't want updates, you shouldn't be usong sarge. |
| 00:23.49 | timofonic | and can have same name of channel on different networks without problem, by |
| 00:23.51 | apacker | jbr, well when I run apt-get upgrade, it's telling me I need to. |
| 00:24.02 | timofonic | example, adding a sufix (as "en" for efnet, "fn" for freenode..). So exists |
| 00:24.05 | plaidpenguin | apacker, then it's probably right |
| 00:24.14 | plaidpenguin | apacker, dpkg is very smart and stable |
| 00:24.14 | timofonic | a program as i like? |
| 00:24.22 | apacker | cafuego, I have no problem with updates. The changelog tells me the last change to x-windows-system-core or whatever was apr 28, but its cleary not, ive run many updates since then |
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| 00:24.30 | timofonic | Im interested on a program that runs as a daemon, and he connects to the |
| 00:24.42 | timofonic | irc networks that i like, with the nickname on each network that i like, on the |
| 00:24.43 | apacker | plaidpenguin, very smart and stable - Yes. Perfect - No. :) |
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| 00:24.47 | cafuego | apacker: Then it's most likely a recompile to satisfy a new depend. |
| 00:24.56 | timofonic | channels of each network that i like, identify the nickname on each network, |
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| 00:25.08 | jbr | apacker: use apt-listchanges - read all the changelogs, *then* decide if you want it installed |
| 00:25.09 | timofonic | and can have same name of channel on different networks without problem, by |
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| 00:25.16 | techorix | deadcat, oh I cee actually i want to do something if the files are unequal |
| 00:25.17 | plaidpenguin | apacker, as someone who has tried a dozen linuxes and bsds, I can tell you that its about as close to perfect as you will find |
| 00:25.21 | timofonic | example, adding a sufix (as "en" for efnet, "fn" for freenode..). So exists |
| 00:25.34 | timofonic | a program as i like? |
| 00:25.36 | raboof | when 'apt-get -f install' fails with 'trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/lib/libXv.so.1.0', which is also in package xlibs', what can i do? |
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| 00:25.45 | cafuego | timofonic: yes, they're called bots, and they're bloody annoying. |
| 00:25.49 | Dman | i just installed xwindows and gdm now how do i make it so they start when the computer starts? |
| 00:26.02 | raboof | removing xlibs altogether doesn't seem like a good idea, just letting it overwrite it seems sensible maybe, but how? |
| 00:26.14 | apacker | plaidpenguin, I didnt say it wasnt the best. Im just saying sometimes it needs a little watching! |
| 00:26.17 | techorix | deadcat, diff filea fileb && ! echo "files are different" ? |
| 00:26.19 | deadcat | techorix: cmp file1 fil2 || do someshit |
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| 00:26.21 | somiaj | Dman: if you installed gdm, it should automically be set up to start at bot up. |
| 00:26.36 | apacker | jbr, I think snapshot.debian.net is the closest I'm going to get. It still tells me that |
| 00:26.45 | techorix | deadcat, okay thx a lot.. wouldnt have thought that this works , very nice |
| 00:26.56 | apacker | jbr, sorry, that xfree86 was last updated 4/30/04 which cant be right, ive definitely run updates since then |
| 00:27.24 | Dman | well i did apt-get install gdm, it did its thing, and it doesnt start when i rebooted |
| 00:27.26 | ffips | how do you bypass gdm @ boot? |
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| 00:27.48 | deadcat | !tell ffips about nodm |
| 00:27.52 | timofonic | hello |
| 00:28.20 | ffips | thanks deadcat |
| 00:28.47 | jammin | right, i know this is a debian room, and i apologie, and yup im a supern00b, i installed knoppix using knoppix-installer and its set my name to knoppix, can i change this at root? (apologies again for asking knoppix qs in a debian room, but knoppix is based on debian, no?) |
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| 00:28.55 | felipe | hi there |
| 00:28.55 | FieldySnuts | go away. |
| 00:28.56 | jammin | i offer 5 fine cammels... |
| 00:28.57 | thomas_adam | jammin: /J #knoppix |
| 00:29.01 | thomas_adam | ramanujan: /topic |
| 00:29.03 | jammin | ive tried |
| 00:29.10 | thomas_adam | jammin: Not hard enough. |
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| 00:29.15 | faxo | give me a camel to rool a joint |
| 00:29.23 | jammin | please, 5 fine cammels and 3 virigns? |
| 00:29.26 | programmer90 | I got my mouse set up but i got two questions, dont worry, their simple. How do i set up Debian to use The KDM instead of the GDM? |
| 00:29.28 | felipe | does any one know a good firewall, easy to use? |
| 00:29.35 | Dman | Can anyone tell me why gdm didnt start at reboot |
| 00:29.37 | jammin | and two jam doughnuts? |
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| 00:29.42 | thomas_adam | jammin: it's #knopppix, or dpkg comes and fucks you.... your choice. |
| 00:29.49 | jammin | ok] |
| 00:29.51 | techorix | deadcat, can i do multiple commands after cmp filea fileb || com1; com2; ? |
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| 00:29.59 | faxo | :) |
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| 00:30.01 | FieldySnuts | SO tired of the knoppix idiots |
| 00:30.02 | thomas_adam | techorix: man diff3 |
| 00:30.09 | thomas_adam | hear hear. |
| 00:30.11 | deadcat | techorix: ya... a || b && c && d |
| 00:30.26 | techorix | deadcat, very cool |
| 00:30.58 | robochan | blah |
| 00:31.00 | timofonic | Im interested on a program that runs as a daemon, connects to the specified networks, with a nickname on each network and identify it, same name channel on different networks without problem (adding a sufix for difference each channel by example) and i can connect it with some irc client to it. Exists the program that i want? |
| 00:31.00 | programmer90 | I need it to start the KDM instead of the GDM? anyone? please? |
| 00:31.05 | dan2 | FieldySnuts: didn't we kill them all with that LoReZ ban |
| 00:31.11 | davrieb | programmer90: dpkg-reconfigure gdm |
| 00:31.13 | FieldySnuts | i wish |
| 00:31.16 | thomas_adam | timofonic: That's called spamming. |
| 00:31.33 | Dman | can anyone please tell me is there anything i needed to do other the apt-get install gdem to install it? because it isnt starting on reboot |
| 00:31.35 | deadcat | programmer90: echo kdm > /etc/X11/default-display-manager |
| 00:31.39 | somiaj | programmer90: change /etc/X11/default-display-manager |
| 00:31.49 | timofonic | thomas_adam: why? |
| 00:31.51 | thomas_adam | Dman: Yes, try that again in English. |
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| 00:32.13 | felipe | Any opinion on what firewall should I install? |
| 00:32.15 | thomas_adam | !tell programmer90 about nodm |
| 00:32.16 | deadcat | programmer90: why not just uninstall gdm? |
| 00:32.38 | Dman | I did apt-get install gdm, but it isnt starting when i reboot. |
| 00:32.42 | programmer90 | ok now second question, how do i add syslinks or icons to the Gnome desktop? thhis is very unlike other distros the right mouse button dont even do nothing |
| 00:32.43 | timofonic | thomas_adam: i make a lot of probes on my desktop computer, so i like can has all time connected and log |
| 00:33.01 | deadcat | Dman: no error? just in console? |
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| 00:33.08 | Justin | programmer90: you're not running gnome. |
| 00:33.12 | Dman | deadcat, yes |
| 00:33.19 | timofonic | thomas_adam: why you said that is spamming? please say it |
| 00:33.30 | FieldySnuts | !spam timofonic |
| 00:33.32 | deadcat | Dman: check /etc/rc2.d see if gdm is there or not. |
| 00:33.33 | FieldySnuts | er |
| 00:33.34 | programmer90 | Yes I am |
| 00:33.35 | thomas_adam | timofonic: Multiple connections like that are never good. |
| 00:33.40 | Justin | programmer90: no, you're not |
| 00:33.45 | programmer90 | I start a gnome session |
| 00:33.50 | programmer90 | by GDM |
| 00:34.00 | Justin | thats nice |
| 00:34.00 | programmer90 | and i see Gnome loading screen |
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| 00:34.02 | thomas_adam | programmer90: if gnome-session does not exist, then you have not got gnome. |
| 00:34.12 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: what is literal spam |
| 00:34.14 | programmer90 | It does exist : ) |
| 00:34.19 | dpkg | FieldySnuts: what are you talking about? |
| 00:34.22 | felipe | any firewall?? |
| 00:34.29 | thomas_adam | !what does FieldySnuts pay you for? |
| 00:34.30 | dpkg | normally FieldySnuts pays me for unspeakably disgusting actions, thomas_adam, but I've really had enough... |
| 00:34.32 | FieldySnuts | bah |
| 00:34.33 | deadcat | felipe: they are all hard to use. so just try iptables |
| 00:34.34 | ffips | I am currently in the middle of a new install of 3.0r2. What is netenv? how to I answer it's question so it doesn't need info @ boot? |
| 00:34.38 | timofonic | thomas_adam: why? i connect to various irc networks all time, there some networks more interesant for some things, by example, development of consoles and others |
| 00:34.46 | Justin | ffips: by uninstalling netenv |
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| 00:35.01 | thomas_adam | timofonic: then set it in your irc client. Xchat for instance can do this. |
| 00:35.04 | Dman | i dont see it |
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| 00:35.20 | Dman | what would the file be called if it was there? |
| 00:35.30 | thomas_adam | Dman: ? |
| 00:35.30 | deadcat | davrieb: S99gdm |
| 00:35.32 | somiaj | Dman: S99gdm or something like that |
| 00:35.35 | timofonic | thomas_adam: but i make a lot of probes, and then can crash the system or need to rebot, so i want log the conversations |
| 00:35.36 | Dman | no |
| 00:35.44 | Dman | nothing with gdm in it |
| 00:35.45 | felipe | deadcat: ow...ok! could u explain briefly iptables function? |
| 00:35.52 | thomas_adam | timofonic: Dunno, don't care. |
| 00:35.53 | timofonic | and see what people said after a fast reboot |
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| 00:35.58 | deadcat | Dman: ll /etc/init.d/gdm if you see anything then run update-rc.d defaults gdm |
| 00:36.00 | ffips | justin: I don't recall chosing to install it, and don't recal it from Hamm, what is it? |
| 00:36.05 | techorix | very cool this works :D |
| 00:36.07 | thomas_adam | timofonic: You're not making any sense. |
| 00:36.13 | Justin | ffips: what does packages.debian.org say it is? |
| 00:36.19 | thomas_adam | Hamm? :) |
| 00:36.23 | timofonic | thomas_adam: why not? i think that it has |
| 00:36.37 | deadcat | felipe: iptables is a loads of stuff. you have to read this yourself. i just use it for basic firewall/nat/ |
| 00:36.39 | thomas_adam | timofonic: that last setence you said proves it. |
| 00:37.07 | ffips | Justin: thanks for the info |
| 00:37.28 | timofonic | thomas_adam: because i can use old operating systems that cant connect to various servers and others :) |
| 00:37.44 | Dman | there is no /etc/init.d/gdm |
| 00:37.46 | timofonic | thomas_adam: due to not available irc client with these things... |
| 00:37.47 | cafuego | bloody bloody bloody |
| 00:37.56 | dan2 | deadcat: I have a 3500 line iptables script |
| 00:37.58 | deadcat | Dman: you installed gdm wrong then (= |
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| 00:38.11 | Dman | ill try once more |
| 00:38.14 | deadcat | dan2: damn. hahahah.. mine is pretty short. |
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| 00:38.17 | timofonic | thomas_adam: and then? :) |
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| 00:38.25 | thomas_adam | timofonic: Sorry. |
| 00:38.30 | Justin | hmm, computers=6, desks=2 :( |
| 00:38.51 | thomas_adam | Justin: use the computers as desks. |
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| 00:39.03 | simonrvn | or desk legs |
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| 00:39.09 | thomas_adam | Yeah. |
| 00:39.12 | Gianfranco | How can I start net-smtp ? |
| 00:39.19 | thomas_adam | Gianfranco: Oh, please |
| 00:39.23 | Justin | the indigo2 and u2's are built like a tanks... |
| 00:39.31 | timofonic | thomas_adam: uhm? :P |
| 00:39.31 | thomas_adam | if you don't know that, do you know how to use it? |
| 00:39.35 | simonrvn | Justin: i hope so ;) |
| 00:39.48 | timofonic | thomas_adam: do you know a program that can some that is said? |
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| 00:39.54 | Justin | the imac is all alone on the floor :) |
| 00:40.00 | deadcat | thomas_adam: true. if he doesnt know how to start that thing. how he know what that thing does |
| 00:40.14 | thomas_adam | timofonic: I told you, "Xchat" does. Now, please, STFU. |
| 00:40.24 | simonrvn | all you can put on the imac is a mouse. just a testament to the bad cse design. though emacs are wose |
| 00:40.35 | simonrvn | @fuck my typist |
| 00:40.40 | ardy | SMB QUESTION: so I mounted a samba partition and when I try and look into is (ie. ls in its directory) I get the error 'Input/outpust error |
| 00:40.42 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 00:40.42 | ardy | whay? |
| 00:40.45 | ardy | *why? |
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| 00:40.49 | KrytenX | tim, are you looking for an irc proxy to run on another seperate machine to maintain irc connections? |
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| 00:41.00 | thomas_adam | A bouncer, maybe? |
| 00:41.01 | timofonic | thomas_adam: do you readed? old operating systems... not multiple servers connection... |
| 00:41.08 | thomas_adam | readed? |
| 00:41.10 | timofonic | on irc clients |
| 00:41.17 | thomas_adam | old OSes? |
| 00:41.24 | simonrvn | what? |
| 00:41.25 | timofonic | yes, old OSes |
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| 00:41.33 | thomas_adam | !confuse timofonic |
| 00:41.33 | dpkg | no, them are your gerbil today, timofonic ? by order of the dictatorship of tibet with extra cream |
| 00:41.40 | osbert | is there any way to get my ati radeon 9800 working using only packages from unstable? |
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| 00:41.42 | KrytenX | maybe he wants dircproxy |
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| 00:41.54 | tchmnkyz | hey all, is, or when will gnome 2.6 be in sarge? |
| 00:41.59 | thomas_adam | osbert: No, and you should not be using Sid if you have to ask... |
| 00:42.00 | simonrvn | thomas_adam: no |
| 00:42.05 | simonrvn | thomas_adam: sorry |
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| 00:42.08 | thomas_adam | simonrvn: heh |
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| 00:42.08 | simonrvn | tchmnkyz: no |
| 00:42.17 | tchmnkyz | will it be part of sarge? |
| 00:42.18 | timofonic | thomas_adam: and then? |
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| 00:42.28 | Vilim | Can anyone tell me why, when I attempt to mount an NFS share in sid, I get "mount: RPC: Program not registered". I know the share is fine because I can sucessfully mount it on another sid box. I have already tried google however there seems to be a million solutions, none of which actually work |
| 00:42.30 | simonrvn | tchmnkyz: what? |
| 00:42.31 | abrotman | tchmnkyz: most likely .. no .. but its currently in experimental |
| 00:42.34 | thomas_adam | timofonic: Do you mean something like "muh"? |
| 00:42.37 | johnsu01 | Having trouble with my Netgear WG511. It was working fine, but now locks up the system when I plug it in sometimes. lspci sees it, prism54 loads at boot.. |
| 00:42.42 | tchmnkyz | abrotman: k thnx |
| 00:42.45 | thomas_adam | Vilim: Start portmapd |
| 00:42.46 | timofonic | thomas_adam: what if i want uses rare and old oses for my experiments? :) |
| 00:42.53 | timofonic | thomas_adam: muh? what do you said? |
| 00:43.01 | thomas_adam | timofonic: What if you got a dictionary and looked.... |
| 00:43.07 | thomas_adam | timofonic: "muh" is an IRC-bouncer. |
| 00:43.08 | osbert | thomas_adam: i looked at xfree86.org and saw that 4.3 didn't have support for the R350, but i was hoping that somebody else would have another idea :) |
| 00:43.22 | miles_ | if I type scp * username@debianbox:~ To copy dirs and there contents from mac os/x I get the error not a regular file...what am I doing wrong? |
| 00:43.23 | timofonic | thomas_adam: makes the things that i want then? |
| 00:43.23 | thomas_adam | osbert: Use 4.4 from experimental? |
| 00:43.29 | osbert | oh, that would work |
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| 00:43.32 | thomas_adam | timofonic: Me? What? Why? |
| 00:43.32 | abrotman | osbert: you need to probably read docs .. the version in sid is 4.3-dfsg |
| 00:43.37 | Vilim | thomas_adam: that doesn't seem to help (unless I shouldn't be doing /etc/init.d/portmap start) |
| 00:43.52 | thomas_adam | Vilim: user-land NFS or kernel land? |
| 00:43.57 | Vilim | userland |
| 00:43.58 | osbert | thomas_adam, abrotman: i was under the impression debian wasn't going to package 4.4 at all because of the licensing issues |
| 00:44.03 | simonrvn | thomas_adam: 4.4 isn't nor will it be in experimental |
| 00:44.04 | tchmnkyz | miles_ add -r |
| 00:44.06 | KrytenX | in soviet russia irc chats on you |
| 00:44.13 | johnsu01 | If the card doesn't lock up the system, it gives me a file not found error when I try to ifconfig eth1 up. |
| 00:44.14 | abrotman | thomas_adam: what makes you think 4.4 is in experimental? |
| 00:44.18 | thomas_adam | simonrvn: Oh. I could have sworn... |
| 00:44.27 | FieldySnuts | debian will not have 4.4. |
| 00:44.29 | simonrvn | thomas_adam: no it won"t. licencing issues |
| 00:44.31 | FieldySnuts | "full stop" |
| 00:44.36 | thomas_adam | Bummer. |
| 00:44.38 | simonrvn | thomas_adam: nor will any other dist |
| 00:44.47 | thomas_adam | heh |
| 00:44.49 | simonrvn | x.org |
| 00:44.50 | osbert | so, what alternatives are there besides installing 4.4 by hand? |
| 00:44.51 | FieldySnuts | yep |
| 00:44.54 | osbert | that are in debian |
| 00:44.56 | osbert | (if possible) |
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| 00:45.01 | johnsu01 | With if-up eth1, it gives errors about the network being down. |
| 00:45.05 | simonrvn | x.org is being worked on |
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| 00:45.35 | abrotman | what is the dfsg X packages? |
| 00:45.43 | abrotman | are they parts of 4.4 backported? |
| 00:45.49 | simonrvn | some non-free binary stuff was removed |
| 00:46.11 | abrotman | but its 4.4? |
| 00:46.15 | simonrvn | xfree changelog for details, and probably the debian-x ML |
| 00:46.17 | FieldySnuts | anyone know the url to that debian announcement, the one with "full stop" in it, very nice |
| 00:46.17 | simonrvn | no |
| 00:46.31 | dondelelcaro | FieldySnuts: debian announcement about what? |
| 00:46.31 | kiwnix | is debian going to package the freedesktop x.org? |
| 00:46.34 | simonrvn | FieldySnuts: d-d ? |
| 00:46.35 | timofonic | thomas_adam: miau.sourceforge.net :) |
| 00:46.37 | timofonic | thanks |
| 00:46.38 | johnsu01 | This is all on sarge with 2.6.3 kernel. |
| 00:46.38 | FieldySnuts | it comes down to this: debian will not have xfree 4.4 |
| 00:46.39 | dondelelcaro | kiwnix: possibly. |
| 00:46.47 | FieldySnuts | dondelelcaro: the whole xfree with license 1.1 stuff |
| 00:46.57 | kiwnix | dondelelcaro: ah, ok :) |
| 00:47.03 | dondelelcaro | FieldySnuts: oh. yeah, branden was talking about it at some point... |
| 00:47.08 | abrotman | simonrvn: its 4.4 minus binary crap? |
| 00:47.36 | idnar | abrotman: no, it's 4.3 |
| 00:47.45 | bob2 | abrotman: the dfsg packages are just 4.3 with some binary crud removed |
| 00:47.53 | abrotman | oh .. |
| 00:47.54 | FieldySnuts | http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2004-02-18-030-26-NW-DT-LL&tbovrmode=3 |
| 00:47.56 | FieldySnuts | good enough. |
| 00:48.04 | abrotman | i htought it was 4.4 backported |
| 00:48.08 | abrotman | hmmm |
| 00:48.11 | timofonic | what about xdirectfb? seems nice too! |
| 00:48.11 | bob2 | x.org's tree is forked from the last Free XFree86 release |
| 00:48.17 | bob2 | 4.3.99 or whategver |
| 00:48.18 | simonrvn | abrotman: it's 4.3 without binary crap |
| 00:48.24 | abrotman | well that makes sense now |
| 00:48.25 | FieldySnuts | Harris' comments were echoed by Debian's Daniel Stone, who made this terse statement on the same list: "Debian will not ship anything with the 1.1 license, full stop." |
| 00:48.29 | abrotman | except it still broke my machine |
| 00:48.34 | FieldySnuts | thats what i was thinkin of |
| 00:48.34 | bob2 | !+x in debian |
| 00:48.34 | dpkg | from memory, x in debian is http://lists.debian.org/debian-x/2004/debian-x-200403/msg03376.html (and follow-ups) |
| 00:48.41 | bob2 | that's the least I heard |
| 00:48.48 | dondelelcaro | FieldySnuts: oh. That was in some news article. |
| 00:48.54 | element | when i do ps aux | grep crontab nothing comes up, when i use cron, /usr/sbin/cron comes up. how do i setup the crontab to work correctly or is it allready and i just dont know the file to edit? |
| 00:49.14 | FieldySnuts | dondelelcaro: yeah. i remember seeing the list posting as well, that's what i was looking for. |
| 00:49.16 | dondelelcaro | element: what are you trying to do? |
| 00:49.19 | FieldySnuts | close enough. |
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| 00:49.24 | kiwnix | xfree 1.1 license is a big requierement, all printed and non-printed stuff has to include something like "This include Xfree 4.4 software.... " |
| 00:49.29 | element | dondelelcaro: setup crontab |
| 00:49.34 | FieldySnuts | point being debian isn't going to have xfree with 1.1 license. unless i've missed something. |
| 00:49.34 | dondelelcaro | element: so crontab -e |
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| 00:49.47 | simonrvn | FieldySnuts: nope, missed nothing |
| 00:49.54 | FieldySnuts | okay, what'd i miss heh |
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| 00:50.04 | element | dondelelcaro: it shows i have cron installed allready and is running. what file do i edit for the cron entries? |
| 00:50.12 | simonrvn | @wb NuBus |
| 00:50.13 | mqa | crontab -e |
| 00:50.15 | ravenbird | Welcome back NuBus, o lonely traveller amongst the TCP/IP packets of chaos. |
| 00:50.21 | NuBus | ta - hiho :) |
| 00:50.24 | dondelelcaro | element: you don't. You run crontab -e to edit the cron jobs for your user. |
| 00:50.39 | Blake | It's always good to keep a 10BaseT MAU around. |
| 00:50.39 | element | dondelelcaro: oh ok |
| 00:50.41 | dondelelcaro | element: if you want to edit the system wide crontab, which is rarely a good idea, it's /etc/crontab. |
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| 00:50.52 | hlen | what's the name of the software which allows one to run a linux kernel on userland, on top of a running one? |
| 00:51.00 | dondelelcaro | hlen: uml or xen. |
| 00:51.03 | mqa | Is it possible to run ipsec if my ISP blocks icmp between clients? |
| 00:51.13 | dondelelcaro | hlen: mol will also do it if you're on ppc. |
| 00:51.17 | ffips | wb Justin |
| 00:51.22 | hlen | dondelelcaro, thank you very much |
| 00:51.25 | FieldySnuts | ipsec has nothing to do with icmp, as far as i know |
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| 00:51.28 | dondelelcaro | !xen |
| 00:51.28 | dpkg | [xen] not my friend |
| 00:51.33 | dondelelcaro | hrm... |
| 00:51.33 | FieldySnuts | aww |
| 00:51.53 | osbert | so guess i'll just wait for the x.org xserver to be packaged, no worries |
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| 00:52.20 | programmer90 | Ok, can someone please tell me why i cant login to Gnome as root? |
| 00:52.29 | dondelelcaro | !xen |
| 00:52.29 | dpkg | Xen is a virtual machine emulator. See http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/xen/ |
| 00:52.36 | abrotman | because gdm is setup to do that? |
| 00:52.39 | dondelelcaro | programmer90: you should *NEVER* *EVER* log into X as root. |
| 00:52.46 | ffips | programmer90 su to root |
| 00:53.02 | regeya | x.org is mainly just xfree prior to the license change repackaged, with a little restructuring. |
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| 00:53.32 | regeya | so, no worries. :-D you can continue to use the older xfree packages; you're not missing anything, trust me. |
| 00:53.37 | programmer90 | well i just want to be able to login to it as root, but i cant login so i cant change anything and using SU doesnt work after i login |
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| 00:53.56 | johnsu01 | anyone know what might cause, with a Netgear wg511, a: SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory error in response to ifconfig eth1 up? |
| 00:54.01 | Justin__ | !tell programmer90 about doesn't work |
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| 00:54.08 | Justin__ | johnsu01: you don't have an eth1 |
| 00:54.10 | dondelelcaro | programmer90: uh, you can still change stuff when you su from a normal user to root. |
| 00:54.20 | Dman | how do i configure gdm |
| 00:54.21 | osbert | regeya: i'm waiting for R350 support :/ |
| 00:54.22 | johnsu01 | Justin__: I don't? |
| 00:54.25 | abrotman | programmer90: if you can't su .. you've got more issues |
| 00:54.32 | regeya | oh |
| 00:54.37 | regeya | well, that stinks. |
| 00:54.50 | ffips | couldn't you also add your username to the root group....? |
| 00:54.52 | programmer90 | I logged into X then Su'd but it still wouldnt let me open the user manager |
| 00:54.58 | abrotman | osbert: you could always use the binary ATI driver .. or make your own 4.4 packages |
| 00:54.58 | mqa | Is it possible to run ipsec if my ISP blocks icmp between clients? |
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| 00:55.09 | Dman | gdm properly installed but its not configured currectly. How do i configure it |
| 00:55.15 | cafuego | !tell mqa -about repeat |
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| 00:55.25 | abrotman | try it |
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| 00:55.33 | abrotman | Dman: apt-get -f install |
| 00:55.36 | osbert | abrotman: that's true, but it's cool. i'm willing to be patient to have a more ... free-software-friendly solution |
| 00:55.38 | simonrvn | ffips: no |
| 00:55.42 | programmer90 | So is there a file with boolean values that letsa me change this ? |
| 00:56.04 | jbr | Dman: it installed correctly but the contents aren't on your system? |
| 00:56.04 | abrotman | osbert: or stick your old video card in :) |
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| 00:56.22 | osbert | abrotman: :P |
| 00:56.46 | ffips | simonrvvn: ok |
| 00:56.46 | johnsu01 | Justin__: An eth1 shows up in the iwconfig list.. |
| 00:56.57 | Dman | jbr: it installed but its not correctly configured with my montiter or something |
| 00:56.59 | programmer90 | dang i cant change anythign cause of this tupid thing |
| 00:57.05 | blake_ | what is the program to find security holes? It's like nassue?? |
| 00:57.05 | jbr | Dman: does /etc/init.d/gdm exist? |
| 00:57.07 | dracula | medgno: I had to select a keymap first... and I noticed this bug has been reported already: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=248906 |
| 00:57.11 | cafuego | blake_: nessus |
| 00:57.15 | Dman | yes |
| 00:57.17 | blake_ | ok thank |
| 00:57.18 | Manoj_ | nagios? nessus? |
| 00:57.18 | blake_ | s |
| 00:57.26 | Dman | it does |
| 00:57.27 | medgno | dracula: glad something helped :) |
| 00:57.29 | blake_ | is nagios one? |
| 00:57.34 | jbr | Dman: you were wrong before, or you've tried again? |
| 00:57.47 | Dman | i tried again and it worked |
| 00:57.47 | maiden | i can't make working my soundcard, if someone got a functionnal sis7012 and can help me ... thanks (i guess this is a problem with alsa and esd (said google)) |
| 00:57.58 | blake_ | how would I find nessus? |
| 00:58.03 | blake_ | apt-get? |
| 00:58.11 | osbert | thanks guys, bye |
| 00:58.15 | jbr | Dman: have you ever had X configured on your system? |
| 00:58.16 | Dman | but i need to configure it now |
| 00:58.25 | programmer90 | I want to be able to use the Gnome User Manager but su doesnt work, it still says i need to be root |
| 00:58.29 | KrytenX | it would make sense wouldn't it |
| 00:58.31 | Dman | no, i just installed debian today |
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| 00:58.43 | raboof | about my earlier problem (packages failing to install because it contains files which also appear to be in another package) |
| 00:58.51 | Dman | ive used user-friendly redhat before though |
| 00:58.59 | raboof | i have to dpkg -i --force-overwrite the .deb manually? (instead of using apt)? |
| 01:00.00 | Dman | so how do i configure it???? please answer that question!!!' |
| 01:00.08 | blake_ | how would I find nessus? |
| 01:00.11 | abrotman | apt-get -f install |
| 01:00.11 | dondelelcaro | !tell Dman about ep |
| 01:00.29 | raboof | abrotman: was that in response to me? in that case, that doesn't help. |
| 01:00.39 | dondelelcaro | !tell Dman about set up x |
| 01:00.49 | dondelelcaro | Dman: follow those instructions. They will enable you to set up x. |
| 01:00.55 | raboof | abrotman: installing the packages fails with 'broken pipe' |
| 01:01.36 | abrotman | raboof: it was for dman .. he says gdm wont fully install now |
| 01:01.38 | dondelelcaro | raboof: paste the complete output from apt-get -f install into #flood, if it give you an error. |
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| 01:02.52 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: you are god? |
| 01:02.53 | b0rked | okay, I'm having a semi-strange problem, I'm running the latest software (ie, a recently dist-upgraded version of unstable) and when I'm messing arround in console sometimes the logout is really messed up, sometimes it can take forever, other times the bash process and the clear process from bash_logout hang and such, anyone else having a problem like this? |
| 01:02.58 | abrotman | !tell bleeeeh about root |
| 01:03.02 | cafuego | dondelelcaro: to sum it up in a single word: 'nvidia' ? |
| 01:03.07 | robochan | dondelelcaro: you're not alone |
| 01:03.10 | blake_ | my friend is tryin to install Zero-sumptin on my machine and now it's screwed up |
| 01:03.10 | kiwnix | abrotman: X -configure is very good configuring X :-) |
| 01:03.13 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: yeah, but even nv works fine... |
| 01:03.14 | element | dondelelcaro: no need to look down on people :P |
| 01:03.24 | abrotman | kiwnix: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 works fine for me |
| 01:03.39 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: nah, it's mainly a matter of holding return down, and selecting the appropriate video card driver by looking at the output from lspci... |
| 01:03.40 | cafuego | dondelelcaro: not for people who bought the latest hardware first and then failed to note that it's not actually supported. |
| 01:03.41 | kiwnix | abrotman: yes, a good option too |
| 01:03.51 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: d-i is quite easy to get to work... |
| 01:04.18 | abrotman | i could'nt get to a console vt if i wanted to ... stupid dfsg packages |
| 01:04.30 | b0rked | okay, an example is i logged in on terminal 4 with a user, logged out via (logout) and it took 35 seconds for the login prompt to reappear |
| 01:04.38 | b0rked | anyone else experiences problems like this? |
| 01:04.39 | kiwnix | if d-i beta4 worked perfectly and i had no problems, a installation report is needed to be send? |
| 01:04.53 | programmer90 | Help Please |
| 01:04.58 | programmer90 | I need to login to Gnome as root |
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| 01:05.11 | b0rked | abrotman: wait, you're having these problmes too..? |
| 01:05.18 | dondelelcaro | programmer90: no, you don't need to log into gnome as root. |
| 01:05.19 | cafuego | dondelelcaro: I suppose the other big problem is selective dyslexia |
| 01:05.23 | kiwnix | programmer90: if you want to do a crazy thing, then reconfigure gdm, but login gnome/X as root is dangerous |
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| 01:05.25 | b0rked | abrotman: it's the result of broken packages? |
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| 01:05.33 | programmer90 | Please tell me how to, im qilling to take the risk |
| 01:05.39 | abrotman | b0rked: no .. i can't use ctrl-alt-f[1-6] |
| 01:05.39 | knoppix_ | to na área brazilians !!! |
| 01:05.44 | blake_ | is there a server for nessus? |
| 01:05.49 | cafuego | !portugese |
| 01:05.49 | dpkg | fale por favor o inglês quando no #debian assim que em todos pode o compreender. Se você quiser usar uma outra língua, junte o #debian-rs. Para ajuda em Portugus, use o canal #Debian-BR |
| 01:05.49 | programmer90 | i want to use the Gnome user manager |
| 01:05.50 | b0rked | abrotman: oh. |
| 01:05.51 | KrytenX | yes |
| 01:05.53 | cafuego | b0rked: yes |
| 01:05.56 | cafuego | blake_: yes |
| 01:05.58 | abrotman | b0rked: or alt-tab |
| 01:06.00 | KrytenX | there's nessus and nessusd |
| 01:06.01 | blake_ | what is it> |
| 01:06.02 | dondelelcaro | programmer90: so su to root, and run the gnome user manager. |
| 01:06.02 | kiwnix | programmer90: there is an option in gdm named "allow login as root" |
| 01:06.04 | FieldySnuts | part of nessus is a server. it's own server. you have a server, and a client. |
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| 01:06.10 | cafuego | blake_: apt-cache search nessus |
| 01:06.11 | b0rked | cafuego: ah, ok, which packages are broken? |
| 01:06.16 | kiwnix | programmer90: but the dondelelcaro answer is a lot of better |
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| 01:06.22 | programmer90 | Whats the file i can edit? |
| 01:06.24 | kiwnix | programmer90: "su" is your friend |
| 01:06.26 | cafuego | b0rked: that was a mistbacompleted nick, not a reply to you. |
| 01:06.27 | knoppix_ | Isso é otimo ! |
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| 01:06.36 | knoppix_ | tem algum brasileiro na sala ? |
| 01:06.39 | b0rked | cafuego: oh, ok. |
| 01:06.40 | blake_ | I mean a group chatroom |
| 01:06.45 | kiwnix | programmer90: /etc/gdm/config i think (i'm installing now and gdm is not installed yet) |
| 01:06.48 | programmer90 | I su'd |
| 01:06.48 | blake_ | like #nessus |
| 01:06.49 | cafuego | !tell knoppix_ about read what the fucking bot told you and piss off |
| 01:07.09 | blake_ | ??? |
| 01:07.09 | bob2 | !tell knoppix about portuguese |
| 01:07.17 | abrotman | yes .. theres a #nessus |
| 01:07.18 | bob2 | bah |
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| 01:07.34 | blake_ | how come I can't get on it? |
| 01:07.41 | ffips | rofl |
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| 01:07.45 | blake_ | nvm |
| 01:07.56 | abrotman | blake_: you are on it |
| 01:08.34 | ffips | sorry blake_ when I read your post I saw the last two words reversed.... |
| 01:09.06 | blake_ | it's k |
| 01:09.22 | ffips | biab |
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| 01:09.33 | nnn | hi |
| 01:09.42 | blake_ | anyone know why I can't connect to a remote host on nessus? |
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| 01:10.08 | nnn | is there any debian testing isos around? i need an installer so i can put xfs or reiserfs on the HD |
| 01:10.08 | abrotman | ask #nessus? |
| 01:10.15 | blake_ | no one is tellin me |
| 01:10.16 | abrotman | !tell nnn about d-i |
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| 01:10.24 | b0rked | cafuego: sorry to bother you but you wouldn't happen to know why it takes me so long to log out of a virtual terminal would you? (as in 30 - 35 secons sometimes) |
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| 01:10.43 | b0rked | cafuego: it's definitely a new problem, probably came with recent packages in unstable... |
| 01:10.46 | bob2 | nnn: no you don't, read the woody install guide |
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| 01:11.02 | bob2 | nnn: it can do reiser, and 30 seconds of googling will find an xfs one |
| 01:11.05 | maher | b0rked: probably broken util-linux - try downgrading that |
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| 01:11.47 | reaper[] | isnt there a utility that converts tabs to spaces |
| 01:12.01 | simonrvn | yeh, sed |
| 01:12.05 | jbr | reaper[]: expand/unexpand |
| 01:12.05 | simonrvn | or tr |
| 01:12.05 | nnn | abrotman, nice... there is also a USB mass storage image too!.... |
| 01:12.27 | abrotman | nnn: ? |
| 01:12.33 | nnn | abrotman, have you use the beta4?, it can install 100% debian isnit? |
| 01:12.39 | simonrvn | ... |
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| 01:13.59 | abrotman | nnn: ive used it .,, and beta3 |
| 01:14.06 | abrotman | daily builds aren't bad either |
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| 01:14.45 | b0rked | maher: are you personally familiar with this problem or heard of it before? also, is the one from testing ok? |
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| 01:15.08 | maher | b0rked: i have kept util-linux at -5 due to respawning issues |
| 01:15.19 | blake__ | anyone know why I can't connect to a remote host in nessus? |
| 01:15.20 | FieldySnuts | badgerbadgerbadger |
| 01:15.28 | oukan | some way to install gnome 2.6 on sarge ? |
| 01:15.33 | blake_ | mushroom mushroom |
| 01:15.35 | abrotman | !tell blake__ about repeat |
| 01:15.51 | FieldySnuts | !fertilize oukan |
| 01:15.53 | b0rked | maher: ok, cool, I'm going to downgrade that now back to the version from testing, thanks man |
| 01:16.02 | elshiftos | african snake |
| 01:16.05 | blake_ | what? |
| 01:16.08 | maher | b0rked: anyway - try and see - if not i dunno |
| 01:16.09 | oukan | FieldySnuts whats that ? |
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| 01:20.58 | element | I'm getting this error, "/tmp/crontab.4vsMFk/crontab":2: bad command, when I insert this crontab entry 0 0 * * * * /bin/sh /etc/tcpdump.sh. is there something wrong with that entry? |
| 01:21.10 | FieldySnuts | !burp |
| 01:21.27 | nnn | element, 0 0 * * * ? |
| 01:21.34 | element | once at hour 24 |
| 01:21.52 | hyde | element, there's only 5 time spec fields, you have 6 |
| 01:21.52 | nnn | i think you have 1 extra * |
| 01:21.58 | element | oh ok |
| 01:22.11 | element | ah yes, you are correct, thank you |
| 01:22.14 | hyde | element, or use @daily |
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| 01:22.28 | abrotman | man cron maybe |
| 01:22.35 | hyde | man 5 crontab actually |
| 01:22.43 | nnn | i thought crontab told you ifwhat you stick in it, it correct or not |
| 01:23.56 | nnn | You will be greeted by a welcome screen. Hit ENTER to boot. (If you want a |
| 01:23.57 | nnn | 2.6 kernel, type "linux26" instead.) |
| 01:24.03 | nnn | cool... it have 2.6 right on the way |
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| 01:26.25 | plagerism | Can anyone recommend a good rescue linux boot cd?? |
| 01:26.38 | abrotman | the first debian CD? |
| 01:26.45 | bignose | plagerism: knoppix? |
| 01:26.46 | abrotman | !ltk |
| 01:26.50 | abrotman | hmm .. what is that thing |
| 01:26.55 | abrotman | !lbt |
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| 01:27.07 | b0rked | so is the latest version of the xserver (namely 4.3.0.dfsg.1-1 known to have problems with the closed-source nvidia driver released from nvidia, if so, does it work with the "nv" driver (the one from xfree86)? |
| 01:27.10 | plagerism | bignose, preferrably with no windows manager |
| 01:27.29 | blake_ | anyone know about nessus? |
| 01:27.35 | b0rked | when I try to launch the xserver my display becomes mangled and the kenrel doesn't even respond to sysrq |
| 01:27.40 | bignose | plagerism: join the FSF and your membership chard is a LNX-BBC :-) |
| 01:27.44 | bignose | s/chard/card/ |
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| 01:28.36 | plagerism | bignose, perhaps that was humour, perhaps that was an insult, at any rate, I didnt understand what you mean |
| 01:28.48 | plagerism | s/mean/meant/ |
| 01:28.50 | bignose | plagerism: neither |
| 01:29.34 | bignose | plagerism: the Free Software Foundation offers memberships. on joining, you receive a membership kit, including a member card; the card is, itself, a bootable business card with the LNX-BBC rescue distribution on it. |
| 01:29.35 | abrotman | stupid linux bootable toolkit is gone |
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| 01:30.39 | plagerism | bignose is that a good rescue disk then?? |
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| 01:31.07 | bignose | plagerism: I've never really made much use of anything but tomsrtbt and knoppix |
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| 01:31.44 | plagerism | bignose, what I want to do isnt to indepth |
| 01:31.55 | abrotman | lbt.linuxcare.com ... can anyone get there? |
| 01:31.58 | plagerism | Pretty much just copying some files over |
| 01:32.01 | robochan | bignose: ditto, they're both excellent |
| 01:32.06 | bignose | plagerism: tomsrtbt |
| 01:32.21 | bignose | plagerism: a single-floppy powerhouse |
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| 01:33.20 | bignose | I'm fairly sure you can tell knoppix not to start X, yes? |
| 01:33.29 | zamolxes | bignose, knoppix 2 |
| 01:33.31 | robochan | abrotman: yes |
| 01:33.35 | zamolxes | bignose, at boot time |
| 01:34.07 | plagerism | bignose, and yes I can kill X after startup |
| 01:34.08 | blake_ | anyone know any good rooms that might know about nessus? |
| 01:34.26 | bignose | plagerism: or you can tell it to start in runlevel 2 with 'knoppix 2' on the boot prompt |
| 01:34.34 | blake_ | thats not #nessus |
| 01:34.47 | Dman | i configured gdm but now the screen just flickers. What do i do? |
| 01:35.05 | abrotman | robochan: you can get there? |
| 01:35.07 | bignose | blake_: while waiting, search newsgroups and mailing lists |
| 01:35.13 | robochan | abrotman: yep |
| 01:35.16 | plagerism | I tried that, but it kept complaining that the harddrive was mounted in readonly, when I try to copy files to it |
| 01:35.17 | Blake | While waiting for what? |
| 01:35.23 | Blake | Err, I'm not blake_, am I. |
| 01:35.24 | blake_ | how? |
| 01:35.24 | abrotman | robochan: i get host not found |
| 01:35.35 | bignose | blake_: you have Google, use it. |
| 01:35.37 | plagerism | and then when I try to unmount the harddrive it complains that its busy, when it shouldnt be |
| 01:35.39 | blake_ | oh yea |
| 01:35.46 | jablko | how can i apt-get a new package, ignoring other, unrealted packages with broken dependancies? |
| 01:35.46 | Blake | This is distracting. |
| 01:35.47 | robochan | lbt.linuxcare.com A129.250.133.68 |
| 01:35.55 | blake_ | sorry my other name was takin |
| 01:36.15 | bob2 | jablko: fix the broke dependency |
| 01:36.18 | abrotman | robochan: thats linuxcare.org |
| 01:36.19 | bignose | jablko: fix the broken dependencies first |
| 01:36.22 | abrotman | err .com |
| 01:36.26 | abrotman | not lbt.linuxcare.com |
| 01:36.37 | bignose | jablko: the point of using apt is that you want it to Do The Right Thing by dependencies. |
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| 01:36.50 | robochan | oops |
| 01:36.57 | bignose | jablko: you can't ask it to "ignore dependencies" and then continue to do anything meaningful. |
| 01:37.23 | Dman | I configured GDM but now the screen just flickers. What can I do? |
| 01:37.29 | robochan | abrotman: #flood |
| 01:37.31 | bignose | jablko: you are free to ignore depencencies and operate on single packages yourself, with dpkg. |
| 01:37.39 | jbr | Dman: presumably you tried to configure your X server (not gdm) but unsuccessfully... |
| 01:38.05 | Dman | jbr, sorry yes that is correct. I must have chosen a wrong setting |
| 01:38.09 | jablko | yuck. dependancy problems caused by dpkg-cross. i wan't to install a native package before dealing with this ... |
| 01:38.17 | jablko | i don't want these cross packages to break apt |
| 01:38.27 | Hyp3rion | Q: If i filter out things with Netfiter, will they still show up in Ethereal? |
| 01:38.30 | blake_ | how do I make my screen larger? |
| 01:38.43 | Dman | but with the screen the way it is I cant even attempt to fix it |
| 01:38.43 | struct | buy a bigger monitor |
| 01:38.53 | blake_ | -_- |
| 01:39.05 | blake_ | I mean configure my monitor |
| 01:39.08 | bignose | blake_: buy a bigger monitor. perhaps you mean something other than "make my screen larger" |
| 01:39.29 | blake_ | configur my VIDEO |
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| 01:39.50 | Dman | so anyway i can fix it? |
| 01:39.53 | jbr | Dman: does ctrl-alt-F(n) get you to a Virtual Terminal? |
| 01:40.01 | bignose | blake_: configure it to do what? |
| 01:40.13 | Dman | let me check |
| 01:40.16 | abrotman | jbr: it doesn't for me |
| 01:40.17 | blake_ | I need to make my screen resolution larger |
| 01:40.19 | bignose | blake_: you might mean the settings available with 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86' |
| 01:40.24 | jablko | my only current resolution is to remove the dpkg-cross packages ... is this the only way to use apt again? |
| 01:40.43 | blake_ | quit makin it hard for a noob |
| 01:40.47 | bignose | blake_: which causes the configuration for the package 'xserver-xfree86' to be asked again |
| 01:41.01 | abrotman | blake_: its not hard .. thats the way to do it |
| 01:41.09 | Hyp3rion | Q: If i filter out things with Netfiter, will they still show up in Ethereal? |
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| 01:41.33 | bignose | jablko: do whatever is necessary to get the dependency database consistent again. apt will suggest a resolution |
| 01:41.45 | bignose | jablko: once your dependencies are consistent again, you can move forward |
| 01:41.51 | Gnuman | has anyone else had problems with apt dying (download methods die) using unstable? |
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| 01:41.58 | Hyp3rion | jablko, Jablko Zmrzlina? |
| 01:42.23 | blake_ | not workin |
| 01:42.25 | bignose | blake_: in general, to reconfigure package 'foo', you 'dpkg-reconfigure foo' |
| 01:43.04 | Gnuman | when I try to apt-get install *anything* I get E: Method ftp has died unexpectedly! |
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| 01:43.16 | Moose- | Anyone know if imagemagick enables WBMP support by default? |
| 01:43.23 | jablko | any easy way to lie and claim the unavailable dependancy - linux-kernel-headers-powerpc-cross - is present? |
| 01:43.24 | blake_ | do u mean 'dpk -reconfigure' ? |
| 01:43.26 | Dman | jbr: it still does its flicker cycle |
| 01:43.34 | Blake | No. |
| 01:43.40 | Blake | There is no dpk. |
| 01:43.47 | jablko | or remove the dependancy from the database w/o removing libc6-powerpc-cross? |
| 01:43.52 | blake_ | dpkg i mean |
| 01:43.52 | dpkg | blake_: I give up, what is it? |
| 01:44.05 | Blake | Don't taunt the bot. |
| 01:44.09 | Hyp3rion | blake, No space |
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| 01:44.18 | Hyp3rion | blake, dpkg-reconfigure stuff |
| 01:44.20 | Gnuman | I tried to reconfigure it, and I get ldconfig: file /usr/lib/libbonobox.so.2.0.1 is truncated |
| 01:44.21 | blake_ | it isn't in the help file though |
| 01:44.28 | Blake | Hyp3rion, wh? |
| 01:44.30 | Dman | ctrl+alt+f didnt work |
| 01:44.30 | jbr | Dman: did it stall *during* the reconfigure? what do ctrl-C or ctrl-alt-backspace do? |
| 01:44.52 | Hyp3rion | Blake, LOL |
| 01:44.57 | Hyp3rion | Blake, U Dupe? |
| 01:44.59 | jbr | Dman: ctrl+alt+f(n), ie function keys (F1, F2) |
| 01:44.59 | Blake | No! |
| 01:45.06 | Dman | crt-C doest do anythin. I dont know about ctrl-alt-backspace |
| 01:45.07 | jablko | Hyp3rion: dobreeden ... i'm still struggling to learn the language |
| 01:45.08 | Blake | I am a completely unique person. |
| 01:45.08 | robochan | heh |
| 01:45.18 | Hyp3rion | Blake, Deenya mean dpkg-reconfigure? |
| 01:45.22 | Dman | and the fkeys didnt work, i already tried that |
| 01:45.23 | Blake | I'm a physics student at a college. |
| 01:45.25 | mickeyks | mplayer is giving me "could not open/initialize audio device > no sound"...but sound worked fine yesterday with xmms |
| 01:45.30 | Blake | I don't have a clue who blake_ is. |
| 01:45.37 | Hyp3rion | jablko, :-) |
| 01:45.51 | Hyp3rion | jablko, I only know theese 2 words :-) |
| 01:45.56 | Blake | What language? |
| 01:46.02 | Dman | ctrl-alt-backspace didnt work |
| 01:46.17 | Hyp3rion | Slovakian |
| 01:46.21 | blake_ | sorry my linux smart friend isn't on so I am askin u all |
| 01:46.27 | mickeyks | the video is playing but i hear no sound |
| 01:46.28 | Hyp3rion | Jablko = Apple |
| 01:46.31 | mickeyks | i am in the audio group too |
| 01:46.32 | jablko | Czech : ) |
| 01:46.35 | Hyp3rion | in Slovakienne |
| 01:46.39 | Hyp3rion | Err Slovakian |
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| 01:46.52 | Hyp3rion | jablko, Oh 8-/ |
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| 01:47.26 | Hyp3rion | mickeyks, mplayer |
| 01:47.28 | Hyp3rion | ? |
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| 01:47.37 | ardy | KDE Question: The sound olny sceems to work if I log in as root and then log out and log in as a user, why? |
| 01:47.39 | abrotman | !tell moyix about away |
| 01:47.40 | mickeyks | Hyp3rion: yes, i'm using mplayer |
| 01:47.40 | Dman | jbr, ctrl-alt-bksp didnt work |
| 01:47.41 | Hyp3rion | !tell moyix -about away |
| 01:47.51 | jablko | Hyp3rion: Same thing - but my grandparents are from the Czech half |
| 01:48.01 | moyix | abrotman, Hyp3rion: gah, I turned off "annouce away status" in x-chat |
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| 01:48.08 | Hyp3rion | jablko, Heh i see. |
| 01:48.08 | dvhart | can anyone tell me whay make-kpkg keeps deleting my .config and using some default? |
| 01:48.34 | Hyp3rion | mickeyks, its broken. try something else. |
| 01:48.48 | Dman | jbr you there??? |
| 01:48.53 | blake_ | what dir. is dpkg in? |
| 01:49.02 | mickeyks | Hyp3rion: er...oh. that sucks. what do you recommend? |
| 01:49.11 | Hyp3rion | Did you see anything? |
| 01:49.22 | Hyp3rion | I toggled "away" in XChat... |
| 01:49.51 | chitiri | in a bts page where can i see the status of the bug ? |
| 01:49.53 | Hyp3rion | mickeyks, Dunno :-/ |
| 01:50.13 | Hyp3rion | mickeyks, apt-cache -f search 'video.*player' | less |
| 01:50.19 | moyix | Hyp3rion: no, and I just checked again--it seems the option was still on (though I'm fairly sure I turned it off) |
| 01:50.29 | Hyp3rion | moyix, Oh. |
| 01:50.30 | moyix | that's better... |
| 01:50.31 | Hyp3rion | :-) |
| 01:50.41 | moyix | sorry :) |
| 01:50.43 | blake_ | this is what I get when I try the command 'sudo: dpkg-reconfigure: command not found' |
| 01:50.44 | chitiri | bts page means bts report page of a bug |
| 01:51.01 | ardy | Does anyon know why the KDE Sound Server freezes when I'm not root |
| 01:51.03 | ardy | ? |
| 01:51.29 | Hyp3rion | ardy, Heh |
| 01:51.39 | Hyp3rion | ardy, Never ever run KDE as root! |
| 01:52.05 | Hyp3rion | ardy, And do: adduser YourUserName audio |
| 01:52.16 | ardy | Hyp3rion: yeah I know... yes I did |
| 01:52.25 | Hyp3rion | Hmm... |
| 01:52.31 | Hyp3rion | ardy, ARTS? |
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| 01:52.46 | Hyp3rion | ardy, Why do you need a soundserver anyways? |
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| 01:53.25 | mickeyks | hrm |
| 01:53.26 | bl0w3r_ | BloodyShade whats are you doing here? |
| 01:53.30 | mickeyks | how about th realplayer package? |
| 01:53.41 | Hyp3rion | mickeyks, Ugh |
| 01:53.55 | BloodyShade | bl0w3r_: don't be silly, the same as you |
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| 01:53.56 | Hyp3rion | mickeyks, RealPlayer is non-free and SpyWare |
| 01:54.00 | moyix | odd problem with iptables: I have /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward set to 1, and I'm using the rule "iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE". external interface is eth0, internal is eth1. the client machines can ping and resolve hostnames, but not establish a connection. any idea what's going on? |
| 01:54.05 | mickeyks | oh |
| 01:54.08 | sTone_heAd | does anybody know why there's no package for mkext2fs which is needed by kernel-image-2.6.5 initrd? |
| 01:54.11 | mickeyks | well i knew it was non-free |
| 01:54.12 | mickeyks | hrm |
| 01:54.16 | mothas | Has anyone here tried the mister house project? |
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| 01:54.19 | numist | guuys, whyyy iiiss my keyybbooarrdddd dddoooinnngggg tthhiisss???? |
| 01:54.24 | ardy | yeah I have arts installed... It works with xmms |
| 01:54.30 | numist | it jjustttt startttted hhaaaaappppeennniiinnggg aaaftterrr thheee llaaasttt rreeebbboooott |
| 01:54.34 | bl0w3r_ | BloodyShade I´m here to kick your ass :) |
| 01:54.38 | Hyp3rion | numist, LOL |
| 01:54.43 | numist | noottttt ffuunnnyy!!!!!!! |
| 01:54.44 | Hyp3rion | numist, U serious? |
| 01:54.46 | numist | yeeesss!!! |
| 01:54.48 | Hyp3rion | heh |
| 01:54.50 | numist | III ccaaannt tyypee tttthhhiisss fffaaaassstt!!!!1 |
| 01:54.55 | Hyp3rion | ROTFL |
| 01:54.56 | BloodyShade | bl0w3r_: hmm, good idea |
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| 01:55.06 | numist | ......... |
| 01:55.09 | numist | hhhoooolllddd oon oonnne sssaaeec |
| 01:55.36 | numist | ok, there, disabling key repetition completely helps |
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| 01:55.40 | numist | but thats also a pain in the ass |
| 01:55.47 | numist | wtf is going on? |
| 01:55.48 | Hyp3rion | "Key repetition"? |
| 01:55.49 | bl0w3r_ | BloodyShade u like when kick your ass? |
| 01:56.05 | numist | Repeat Keys: Key presses repeat when a key is held down |
| 01:56.11 | ardy | Hyp3rion: ok nevermind... It takes f'n forever to load... whats going on.. I have a fast computer |
| 01:56.15 | LoRez | bl0w3r_: take it outside. |
| 01:56.29 | BloodyShade | bl0w3r_: no, but I'm here to do it in your ass |
| 01:56.30 | aw | if any of the kernel images in sarge or sid turn out to have vulnerabilities, do they get patched with security updates like in woody? |
| 01:56.34 | bl0w3r_ | ohhh sorry ... :) |
| 01:56.37 | LoRez | numist: don't turn the repeat up so high. |
| 01:56.39 | bl0w3r_ | just play |
| 01:56.42 | BloodyShade | LoRez: only kidind =) |
| 01:56.45 | numist | its set to 1000 ms! |
| 01:56.57 | BloodyShade | LoRez: sorry... |
| 01:56.57 | numist | LoRez: 1000 millisecond delay before it starts repeating, it says |
| 01:57.06 | numist | LoRez: but obviously it lies |
| 01:57.45 | mickeyks | aw: i don't think so |
| 01:57.47 | Hyp3rion | Heh |
| 01:57.53 | numist | LoRez: delay is set to 1000 milliseconds, speed set to 22 chars/second |
| 01:57.54 | Hyp3rion | numist, Where can you ste it> |
| 01:58.11 | numist | in your user prefs, keyboard preferences |
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| 01:58.13 | numist | Im in the gui though |
| 01:58.15 | LoRez | numist: I'm not interested. don't type that crap in here again, thanks. |
| 01:58.21 | Hyp3rion | numist, Oh, GUI... |
| 01:58.29 | blake_ | how do u make a window in x-windows show the top bar |
| 01:58.36 | numist | well hell, how do I fix it then? |
| 01:58.52 | Hyp3rion | numist, What GUI? |
| 01:58.55 | numist | gnome |
| 01:59.09 | Hyp3rion | numist, Dunno... Never used GNOME |
| 01:59.12 | numist | wow, my lag timer is possessed too, who has 4200 seconds of lag? |
| 01:59.15 | bl0w3r_ | all these peoples at channel are on? |
| 01:59.22 | Hyp3rion | numist, Ask in #gnome |
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| 01:59.26 | jbr | blake_: window decorations vary with your choice of window-manager (and how you configure it) |
| 01:59.27 | numist | yeah.. good call |
| 01:59.40 | blake_ | well I can't configure it |
| 01:59.49 | blake_ | I can't find dpkg |
| 02:00.03 | jbr | blake_: look on your computer |
| 02:00.05 | blake_ | actually dpkg-reconfigure |
| 02:00.11 | ardy | Does anyone know why KDE Sound Server is so slooooooowwwwww? |
| 02:00.43 | blake_ | how can I find it? |
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| 02:00.48 | abrotman | #debian-kde |
| 02:00.55 | robochan | mmm...sleep... |
| 02:01.05 | bignose | blake_: reconfiguring (and installing, removing, etc) packages must be done with root privileges; are you root when you issue that command? |
| 02:01.15 | blake_ | sudo |
| 02:01.23 | ardy | who do I go to that channel '#debian-kde ? |
| 02:01.41 | bignose | blake_: ah. sudo will give you privileges, but not alter your environment, including your executable search path |
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| 02:01.50 | blake_ | darn |
| 02:02.02 | Blake | Try sudo -. |
| 02:02.03 | bignose | blake_: 'sudo /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure foo' |
| 02:02.09 | blake_ | k |
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| 02:02.13 | Blake | Err, sudo su - |
| 02:02.23 | bignose | blake_: no, sudo is the right tool |
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| 02:02.44 | bignose | and certainly not sudo to use su! |
| 02:02.48 | blake_ | what do I type in to change my video settings? |
| 02:02.57 | abrotman | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 02:03.04 | bignose | blake_: you want to reconfigure the 'xserver-xfree86' package |
| 02:03.15 | thomas_adam | I think he knows this now. |
| 02:03.22 | bignose | blake_: so plug that in as 'foo' in the commandline I gave you above |
| 02:03.23 | blake_ | k |
| 02:03.26 | abrotman | thomas_adam: has he been down this road before |
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| 02:03.27 | abrotman | ? |
| 02:03.34 | bignose | thomas_adam: no, he's quite new to all this |
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| 02:03.51 | thomas_adam | abrotman: Yes, when he initially installed the package, dexconf would have asked him. ;) |
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| 02:04.09 | abrotman | heh |
| 02:04.11 | blake_ | yea k |
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| 02:04.19 | bignose | thomas_adam: you make the assumption that he's the one who installed the package |
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| 02:04.31 | thomas_adam | bignose: You're jewish? |
| 02:04.41 | bignose | thomas_adam: my impression is he's managing the box, not necessarily the one who set it up |
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| 02:05.02 | thomas_adam | That's even more worrying.... |
| 02:05.09 | bignose | thomas_adam: you're racially prejudiced? |
| 02:05.14 | thomas_adam | Hell, no. |
| 02:05.17 | jbr | bignose: python reference |
| 02:05.30 | bignose | jbr: not in my case |
| 02:05.36 | thomas_adam | No, it was a "Monty Python" reference. |
| 02:06.07 | Hyp3rion | dc, How did you get this c00lah IP? |
| 02:06.10 | thomas_adam | Blessed on the cheese-makers, and all that. |
| 02:06.20 | jjazz | I have my win partition mounted and root can read/write but if I try to access it as user, I get an access denied error. Here's the fstab line: /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows vfat defaults,user 0 0. How can I let my user access this dir? Thanks. |
| 02:06.32 | bignose | hey, python is full of references. even assignment is a reference in python :-) |
| 02:06.34 | thomas_adam | !tell jjazz about vfatrw |
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| 02:06.51 | mAl3X | hey guys |
| 02:07.07 | jjazz | thomas_adam: thanks much. |
| 02:07.11 | thomas_adam | jjazz: yw. |
| 02:07.14 | mAl3X | i'm a newcomer to debian, but not to linux hacking |
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| 02:07.23 | mAl3X | and i've got this new machine i want to try debian on |
| 02:07.46 | thomas_adam | mAl3X: You're a kernel developer? |
| 02:07.50 | mAl3X | so... does anybody know how to boot an SGI MIPS R5000 into sarge 4? |
| 02:07.59 | thomas_adam | erm. |
| 02:08.01 | ardy | apic question... My kernel has an 'unexpected IO-APIC' error ... |
| 02:08.01 | bignose | hmm, never really considered that before. Monty Python gets geeks making references all the time; Python is named after Monty Python; Python uses references extensively. |
| 02:08.04 | mAl3X | thomas_adam, not regularly, but i've done my share |
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| 02:08.37 | thomas_adam | mAl3X: I have never used an SGI MIPS R5000, sorry. |
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| 02:08.47 | mAl3X | thomas_adam: nothing directly worth sending in a patch for ;) |
| 02:08.55 | blake_ | how can I close a window that I can't see the title bar on? |
| 02:09.05 | Sebulba02 | kill the process? |
| 02:09.07 | bignose | blake_: you can kill the process |
| 02:09.09 | thomas_adam | blake_: xkill |
| 02:09.12 | numist | blake: Alt + F4 |
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| 02:09.15 | bignose | blake_: or you can run the 'xkill' tool |
| 02:09.29 | bignose | blake_: (alt+F4 will work only on some session managers) |
| 02:09.36 | thomas_adam | depends on the WM, however. |
| 02:09.43 | blake_ | is there a way to see the title bar? |
| 02:09.45 | bignose | blake_: xkill will give you a deaths-head cursor; the next window you click will die |
| 02:09.49 | jbr | blake_: it all depends. What window manager are you using? |
| 02:09.52 | thomas_adam | bignose: easy now: session-manager != window manager. |
| 02:09.56 | blake_ | umm |
| 02:10.04 | blake_ | flux |
| 02:10.07 | blake_ | box |
| 02:10.10 | bignose | thomas_adam: bleh. all this abstraction. |
| 02:10.15 | thomas_adam | bignose: heh. |
| 02:10.32 | mAl3X | i'm downloading the sarge beta 4 mips netboot cd, but i'm not sure it'll boot... |
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| 02:10.44 | mAl3X | i haven't been ablt to boot anything yet, and docs are lacking... |
| 02:10.45 | mickeyks | session manager, window mangager, novel, movie, apple, orange, what's the difference |
| 02:10.50 | blake_ | is there a way to move the window around? |
| 02:10.58 | fantasticbuff | hi has anyone used the php4-imap package? |
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| 02:11.13 | AfgBaby | yey got my system runnin |
| 02:11.15 | bignose | blake_: you want to close the window? use xkill |
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| 02:11.24 | mAl3X | blake_: try to click the window's body and drag it while holding down ALT |
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| 02:11.40 | Sebulba02 | fantasticbuff: what about it? |
| 02:11.44 | mAl3X | at least, that works with the KDE window manager ;) |
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| 02:12.12 | bignose | as opposed to the KDE session manager. as opposed to the KDE object model. blah blah. |
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| 02:12.27 | mickeyks | surely there's more than one kde window manager? |
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| 02:12.32 | fantasticbuff | Sebulba02, well i'm getting a couldn't open stream error. |
| 02:12.43 | bignose | small tools seems to work fine, until you get to a realm where people don't *want* it to work as small tools, like the desktop. |
| 02:12.52 | fantasticbuff | Sebulba02: when using imap_open() |
| 02:13.11 | bignose | mickeyks: you can choose which one to use, but KDE does have its own |
| 02:13.25 | mickeyks | bignose: what's it called? |
| 02:13.36 | bignose | mickeyks: you've already seen its name. |
| 02:13.40 | Sebulba02 | fantasticbuff: and your sure everything is correct? username/pass/host/etc.. |
| 02:13.41 | bignose | mickeyks: the KDE window manager. |
| 02:13.49 | mickeyks | bignose: oh. i didn't know that. huh. |
| 02:13.56 | fantasticbuff | Sebulba02: sure am. |
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| 02:14.08 | Sebulba02 | What error? |
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| 02:14.20 | bignose | blake_: any joy reconfiguring the X server? |
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| 02:14.49 | fantasticbuff | Sebulba02: imap_open: Couldn't open stream {localhost:143/imap/noutls}INBOX |
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| 02:15.13 | fantasticbuff | sorry notls instead of noutls Sebulba02 |
| 02:15.36 | blake_ | yea |
| 02:15.51 | blake_ | bignose: but the resoultion nvr changed |
| 02:16.48 | Sebulba02 | fantasticbuff: lemme try something |
| 02:16.59 | bignose | blake_: the X server reads its confoiguration when it starts up |
| 02:17.01 | fantasticbuff | Sebulba02: thanks |
| 02:17.15 | bignose | blake_: to try the new settings, end the X server session by logging out of your graphical session |
| 02:17.21 | bignose | blake_: then log in again |
| 02:17.25 | sumsac | i have about cdrom driver and new debian installation |
| 02:17.47 | AfgBaby | anyone know of a filemanager like konqueror which allows you to tab folders? |
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| 02:18.03 | bignose | blake_: of course, if they're messed up, you're stuck at a text mode console until it's fixed :-) |
| 02:18.24 | bignose | AfgBaby: mozilla firefox :-) |
| 02:18.37 | AfgBaby | bignose, filemanager not browser |
| 02:18.48 | AfgBaby | bignose, cant mess w/ files in firefox |
| 02:18.55 | bignose | AfgBaby: indeed. |
| 02:19.23 | bignose | AfgBaby: Midnight Commander |
| 02:19.28 | mickeyks | or gentoo? |
| 02:19.28 | bignose | two tabs :-) |
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| 02:19.42 | AfgBaby | ya, Im not a fan of that style |
| 02:20.12 | bignose | AfgBaby: well, I'd suggest Nautilus, but they keep changing how it works so I'm not sure how it is now |
| 02:20.35 | AfgBaby | bignose: Nautilus tabs? |
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| 02:20.52 | bignose | AfgBaby: I believe so, but that's an old memory |
| 02:21.00 | Hyp3rion | Heh, this is numist's screenshot, look at the LAG: http://hephaestus.numist.net/~numist/Screenshot-1.png |
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| 02:21.01 | bignose | bash is my file manager |
| 02:21.17 | bignose | and 'screen' provides my "tabs" |
| 02:21.41 | AfgBaby | bignose: I'll check it out... I ussually do a lot from terminal but there's some things I just like doing w/in konqueror |
| 02:21.45 | Hyp3rion | bignose, ;-) its a religion |
| 02:21.55 | mickeyks | i don't understand what screen does |
| 02:21.58 | bignose | Hyp3rion: not for me |
| 02:22.00 | blake_ | how do I change my screen resolution from 800-600 to whatever? Is it done in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86? |
| 02:22.01 | AfgBaby | bignose: like copy and pasting from text files |
| 02:22.02 | Sebulba02 | fantasticbuff: try doing: imap_last_error() after the open and see if that helps you any. |
| 02:22.14 | bignose | Hyp3rion: simple a damned useful tool that is available in most places I need it. |
| 02:22.20 | bignose | AfgBaby: screen |
| 02:22.35 | AfgBaby | I'll check that out 2 |
| 02:22.43 | bignose | AfgBaby: but I can appreciate it may be more comfortable to use what you already know in KDE |
| 02:22.56 | blake_ | bignose: how do I change my screen resolution from 800-600 to whatever? Is it done in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86? |
| 02:23.03 | abrotman | yes .. |
| 02:23.07 | mickeyks | or |
| 02:23.09 | abrotman | we already told you that |
| 02:23.16 | AfgBaby | bignose: I dont use KDE actually |
| 02:23.18 | jcarr | I'd just hand edit the file |
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| 02:23.29 | mickeyks | blake_: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 or something like that |
| 02:23.33 | AfgBaby | bignose: I just like konqueror and kwrite so I install kde-base... I use fluxbox |
| 02:23.35 | bignose | mickeyks: screen is a program that manages other programs for you, much like a window manager; in fact it's not unfair to call it a console-mode window manager |
| 02:23.41 | thomas_adam | !+screen |
| 02:23.41 | dpkg | screen is probably allows you to have n terminals and easily switch between them, add keybindings, has its own scrollback and copy/paste and let's you resume all your sessions if your terminal dies or you get disconnected or http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/screen/ or at ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/screen or http://brief.collapsar.net/screen.html or apt-get install screen |
| 02:23.58 | bignose | blake_: yes, it's done by reconfiguring the xserver-xfree86 package |
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| 02:24.10 | thomas_adam | We're *still* doing that? |
| 02:24.18 | thomas_adam | blake_: What's up, matey? |
| 02:24.19 | bignose | blake_: the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file holds the actual configuration, but you shouldn't need to touch that |
| 02:24.22 | mickeyks | bignose: talk about abstraction |
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| 02:24.34 | blake_ | bignose: well then I must not have any hope cuz it didn't work for me |
| 02:24.43 | blake_ | thomas_adam: hey |
| 02:25.19 | bignose | mickeyks: it rocks. mutliple shell sessions, session backgrounding (disconnect from screen and reconnect to the same running sessions from another machine), cut and paste, scroll buffers, window splitting, the list goes on |
| 02:25.38 | thomas_adam | screen is just a software tty |
| 02:25.38 | bignose | blake_: "doesn't work" will need some more detail (i.e. any at all) before we can help |
| 02:25.56 | mickeyks | ok...but i never connect to shells on other machines. so beyond that, why not just open two xterms? |
| 02:26.01 | AfgBaby | I think I pushed my res a little too high when setting it up so text is lookin a little small in some cases (though I love the extra space)... anyone know where I can change the font sizes w/ Xfree/fluxbox? |
| 02:26.02 | bignose | thomas_adam: hah! I challenge the pejorative "just" |
| 02:26.16 | blake_ | bignose: well I reconfigured it to show 1024 by (I forgot) and it didn't change at all |
| 02:26.25 | bignose | mickeyks: because you can have programs that survive when the xterm dies. |
| 02:26.31 | blake_ | do I need to restart x-windows? |
| 02:26.42 | bignose | blake_: like I said, yes. |
| 02:26.52 | blake_ | oh |
| 02:26.52 | blake_ | k |
| 02:27.03 | mickeyks | bignose: but...when i want to run such a program, i just select it from the app menu in my wm :) |
| 02:27.20 | bignose | blake_: log out of your graphical session, and the current X session will end. another should start, to present you with a new login prompt; that one will use your new settings. |
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| 02:27.32 | Gianfranco | Hi |
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| 02:28.00 | Gianfranco | I have a question, i have an init script, supposedly, I need to You will also have to create a link to the script in the runlevel(s) that you wish to have Nagios to start |
| 02:28.02 | bignose | mickeyks: screen also means I can SSH into my machine from anywhere, and run multiple programs over one session... then, when I get home continue to run the same programs uninterrupted. |
| 02:28.15 | Gianfranco | Where/How to edit the runlevels? |
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| 02:28.33 | bignose | Gianfranco: 'man update-rc.d' |
| 02:28.46 | bignose | Gianfranco: the tool that Debian uses to manage the runlevel scripts |
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| 02:28.56 | zignig | Gianfranco: rcconf |
| 02:28.59 | mickeyks | bignose: that does sound useful...but for me, i don't ssh anywhere, i do non-technical work, still sounds not very useful to me |
| 02:29.20 | mith | what's that stupid debian-specific thing that make gnome/kde re-generate it's 'menu' thing |
| 02:29.30 | bignose | mickeyks: up to you then. |
| 02:29.32 | abrotman | mith: menu ? |
| 02:29.34 | blake_ | bignose: I put a picture as my background, why didn't it keep? |
| 02:29.45 | abrotman | update-menus? |
| 02:29.47 | bignose | blake_: I don't know. |
| 02:29.55 | mickeyks | bignose: can you run it from console? |
| 02:30.30 | bignose | mickeyks: it *only* runs in a console. whether that console is on a text-mode console, or in an xterm, is irrelevant to screen. |
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| 02:31.00 | bignose | it's a console-mode "window" manager. |
| 02:31.04 | jbr | mickeyks: you can pull tasks started (under screen) on VTs to your xterm... |
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| 02:31.13 | helix | screen rocks |
| 02:31.16 | mickeyks | bignose: well, i bet you can't use tabs with it if you run it outside of X |
| 02:31.36 | bignose | mickeyks: yes, I use tabs. they're provided in text mode. |
| 02:31.51 | mickeyks | bignose: what do they look like? |
| 02:31.56 | bignose | mickeyks: again, screen is completely ignorant of whether the terminal is an xterm or a text console. |
| 02:31.57 | mickeyks | jbr: that is cool i guess |
| 02:32.22 | blake_ | how do u find the resolution of your screen? |
| 02:32.44 | bignose | mickeyks: screen provides a status line; I've configured mine to show all the current windows, and highlight the current one. in effect, exactly like "tabs". |
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| 02:33.04 | abrotman | xdpyinfo |
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| 02:33.28 | mickeyks | bignose: well, that does sound cool. if i ever work in IT, i will probably want to use that. |
| 02:33.34 | blake_ | bignose: how do u find the resolution of your screen? |
| 02:33.37 | redcoder | is it possible to install gnome2 on debian stable with apt-get? |
| 02:33.48 | abrotman | xdpyinfo |
| 02:33.50 | helix | blake_: i think abrotman just answered you |
| 02:33.50 | helix | twice now |
| 02:33.52 | bignose | blake_: same as abrotman said |
| 02:33.53 | mickeyks | blake_: best way is just to google the model number |
| 02:33.57 | blake_ | k |
| 02:34.01 | mickeyks | or that |
| 02:34.09 | mickeyks | depends how old your screen is though |
| 02:34.14 | bignose | blake_: unfortunately, it seems abrotman doesn't know to use 'nick: something' to say something to a nick. |
| 02:34.15 | Gnuman | has anyone else had problems with apt dying (download methods die) using unstable? |
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| 02:34.24 | Gnuman | when I try to apt-get install *anything* I get E: Method ftp has died unexpectedly! |
| 02:34.27 | Gnuman | I tried to reconfigure it, and I get ldconfig: file /usr/lib/libbonobox.so.2.0.1 is truncated |
| 02:34.49 | Gnuman | reconfigure apt, that is |
| 02:34.55 | bignose | Gnuman: you have multiple problems |
| 02:35.02 | blake_ | I didn't know for a while too |
| 02:35.02 | naknomik | How do I get evolution to show my folders right? It shows all folders as sub-folders of INBOX. |
| 02:35.39 | bignose | Gnuman: problems with libraries (bonobo is an object manager used by GNOME), and problems with apt. they are likely intertwingled. |
| 02:35.52 | bignose | Gnuman: and I'd be surprised if other things aren't broken too. |
| 02:36.07 | thundrfyre | naknomik, are you using cyrus IMAP by any chance? |
| 02:36.22 | Gnuman | this is a fresh install as well. . . |
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| 02:36.46 | naknomik | thundrfyre, Courier-IMAP |
| 02:36.49 | redcoder | is it possible to install gnome2 on debian stable with apt-get? |
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| 02:37.17 | Gnuman | which package has the libbonobox.so.2 file in it? |
| 02:37.18 | blake_ | bignose: u know what folder dpkg-reconfigure is in? |
| 02:37.21 | thundrfyre | naknomik: maybe it's the same, but AFAIK, it's normal in cyrus to see it like that. |
| 02:37.33 | droopy | Hello ALL!! |
| 02:37.35 | simonrvn | @tell Gnuman -about search |
| 02:37.46 | debian | !seen ALL |
| 02:37.46 | dpkg | all <~lollipop_@dialup-4.246.99.203.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 4d 6h 10m 9s ago, saying: 'J_P_: why don't you cruise on over to packages.debian.org and check for yourself'. |
| 02:37.54 | element | i have snmpd installed, but when i run /etc/init.d/snmpd start, nothing happens and snmpwalk to localhost times out. i don't see any configuration errors |
| 02:37.57 | naknomik | thundrfyre, I am able to get Mozilla dn Kmail show the folders right by using namespace overrides. But not evolution. |
| 02:38.10 | element | why won't it start (it's not showing up in ps aux | grep snmpd) either |
| 02:38.20 | droopy | What is the syntax for adding the DISPLAY var to bash /etc/profile ??? |
| 02:38.45 | jbr | blake_: it's an administra commandline tool - don't try to run it via X. |
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| 02:39.31 | thundrfyre | naknomik: AFAIK, it's just the way evolution works |
| 02:40.29 | naknomik | thundrfyre, in many newsgroups I read that actually evo. works even without any namespace overrides because it uses the right ones provided by the IMAP server. |
| 02:40.51 | element | anyone? |
| 02:40.55 | mickeyks | redcorder i think you have to get the backport |
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| 02:41.03 | mickeyks | !gnome2.2 |
| 02:41.04 | dpkg | sontek said wget http://www.psenix.com/sources.list && apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get install gnome, or at deb http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/mirrors.evilgeniuses.org.uk/debian/backports/woody/ gnome.2.2/. Also, ask me about gnome2.2 backport. |
| 02:41.17 | thundrfyre | naknomik: I think it's beyond me then. I always thought that was just the way it worked... |
| 02:41.40 | mickeyks | !gnome2.2 backport |
| 02:41.40 | dpkg | [gnome2.2 backport] maintained by James Standboge. Add one of the following to your /etc/apt/sources.list. /http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/mirrors.evilgeniuses.org.uk/debian/backports/woody gnome2.2deb http://mirror.raw.no/ gnome2.2/ . Then apt-get update && apt-get -u dist-upgrade. Then apt-get install gnome-core. If you want, apt-get install gnome gnome-fifth-toe gdm. It could take hours; be patient. |
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| 02:44.07 | element | anyone know? |
| 02:44.41 | numist | somethings going very wrong with my clock... xchat is reporting 4000+ second pings to the server, xscreensaver takes a full minute to fade in, segfaults, and takes 5 minutes instead of the normal 30 before it starts automatically... and the whole key repetition thing... |
| 02:45.34 | jbr | element: maybe bug #103408? |
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| 02:46.31 | element | jbr: where can i find the information on it? (if you're being serious) |
| 02:46.38 | jbr | element: http://bugs.debian.org/103408 |
| 02:46.40 | element | i googled it but nothing came up |
| 02:46.41 | element | oh ok thanks |
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| 02:47.00 | element | jbr: no, my snmpd exists |
| 02:48.08 | element | i tried all of their solutions, nothing |
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| 02:49.08 | jbr | element: did you try putting in "echo GOT-THIS-FAR" lines in /etc/init.d/snmpd, etc? |
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| 02:50.22 | blake_ | when I use bsetbg to load a background, why when I restart x-windows does it disappear? |
| 02:50.39 | abrotman | blake_: try it |
| 02:50.43 | abrotman | oh |
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| 02:50.50 | abrotman | what window env? |
| 02:50.55 | abrotman | gnome? kde? |
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| 02:51.09 | blake_ | I have restarted 3 times and each time it dissapears |
| 02:51.14 | abrotman | gnome? kde? |
| 02:51.19 | Justin__ | of course it does |
| 02:51.33 | abrotman | !sunday |
| 02:51.34 | dpkg | Sunday is the day all freaks swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane. |
| 02:51.44 | abrotman | my brain hurts |
| 02:51.55 | blake_ | anyone know how to make it stay? |
| 02:52.00 | abrotman | gnome? kde? |
| 02:52.09 | abrotman | or neither? |
| 02:52.23 | jbr | blake_: it cannot "stay"; it can only be done automatically every time |
| 02:52.24 | Hyp3rion | Heh |
| 02:52.47 | blake_ | jbr: how do u make it do it automaticly? |
| 02:53.01 | abrotman | blake_: are you ignoring me on purpose? |
| 02:53.03 | numist_ | something is going wrong with my clock... check this out: |
| 02:53.06 | abrotman | or are you just stupid? |
| 02:53.12 | blake_ | u said try it |
| 02:53.14 | numist_ | >>> a = time.time(); time.sleep(1); b = time.time(); print b-a || outputs: -1.39338183403 |
| 02:53.18 | jbr | blake_: whatever your environment, it'll allow for running things at login, but IT DEPENDS WHAT YOU'RE USING! |
| 02:53.23 | abrotman | and then i asked "kde? gnome?" |
| 02:53.27 | abrotman | repeatedly! |
| 02:53.39 | numist_ | it output a NEGATIVE number... |
| 02:53.41 | abrotman | !u |
| 02:53.41 | dpkg | Dammit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1 |
| 02:53.50 | blake_ | oh Gnome I think |
| 02:53.55 | abrotman | you think? |
| 02:53.58 | abrotman | you need to know |
| 02:54.10 | blake_ | fine gnome |
| 02:54.14 | helix | yes, that's the correct response |
| 02:54.15 | abrotman | are you sure? |
| 02:54.17 | jbr | blake_: for me, it goes in ~/etc/fvwm/init.hook, but for you it'll be something else |
| 02:54.24 | blake_ | pretty |
| 02:54.30 | Hyp3rion | Anyone has a clue about numist's problem? Its a simple python command... |
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| 02:54.39 | abrotman | blake_: woody/sarge/sid? |
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| 02:55.08 | blake_ | sarge |
| 02:55.10 | abrotman | if you have sarge/sid ... click on the gnome button .. go to desktop preferences .. click ... wait for it .. "Background" |
| 02:55.23 | blake_ | then woody |
| 02:55.27 | abrotman | fuck it |
| 02:55.31 | abrotman | i give up |
| 02:55.39 | blake_ | my friend set it up and did't tell me anything |
| 02:55.47 | helix | :) |
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| 02:55.59 | helix | abrotman: it's kind of a pain to have to tease info out of people.. |
| 02:56.00 | blake_ | that's what I feel like |
| 02:56.01 | element | i run dpkg -l snmpd and it shows it's installed. i run apt-get remove snmpd and it doesn't uninstall..what did i do wrong? |
| 02:56.17 | droopy | I can't connect to X when I su ...What is the syntax for adding the DISPLAY var to bash /etc/profile ??? |
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| 02:56.33 | jbr | droopy: mostly, don't |
| 02:56.40 | abrotman | helix: its not just that .. first he doesn't know if hes using gnome .. and he doesn't know if its sarge or woody .. its only gnome1.4 vs gnome2.4 .. no big deal |
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| 02:57.12 | abrotman | dont we have like .. a newbie guide to using debian? |
| 02:57.29 | numist_ | nope |
| 02:57.32 | droopy | jbr need to set up tv app through root... |
| 02:57.32 | abrotman | its like dealing with my boss ... grrr |
| 02:57.38 | jbr | element: you want purge; remove doesn't erase configfiles |
| 02:58.08 | jbr | droopy: adding DISPLAY to /etc/profile is still craziness |
| 02:58.22 | helix | abrotman: well, i guess the problem is that he didn't install it. we could always tell him how to figure these things out :) |
| 02:58.23 | element | jbr: i see. so how would i clear the config files as well as the program so i can reinstall it? |
| 02:58.32 | droopy | jbr how about .bashrc?? |
| 02:58.35 | helix | blake_: dpkg -l | grep gnome, cat /etc/debian_version |
| 02:58.39 | bignose | abrotman: you don't seriously believe a "newbie guide to using Debian" will take one through changing the desktop background for KDE or GNOME, do you? |
| 02:58.44 | abrotman | helix: we could .. but he keeps shooting answers out .. instead of asking how to find out |
| 02:58.46 | helix | blake_: let us know what they say and don't flood the channel, mmkay? :) |
| 02:58.57 | helix | abrotman: it's ok.. relax |
| 02:59.00 | abrotman | bignose: but at least it would tell you how to tell if youre running woody/sarge |
| 02:59.12 | blake_ | sorry |
| 02:59.15 | abrotman | its ok |
| 02:59.21 | abrotman | its not really your fault |
| 02:59.27 | abrotman | im just venting a little :) |
| 02:59.35 | droopy | :)~ |
| 02:59.45 | abrotman | blake_: on almost any other day .. i wouldn't even care .. id tell you how to do everything :) |
| 02:59.47 | helix | blake_: i have to pet some of the regulars when their patience wears thin |
| 03:00.03 | jbr | droopy: well, putting it in a .bashrc leaves me feeling distinctly less nauseous... |
| 03:00.09 | abrotman | blake_: its just one of those days .. i got a tick today even |
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| 03:00.32 | element | jbr: ? |
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| 03:00.41 | blake_ | helix: blake@lancer:~$ sudo /usr/sbin/dpkg -l | grep gnome, cat /etc/debian_version |
| 03:00.41 | blake_ | grep: cat: No such file or directory |
| 03:00.42 | helix | abrotman: a tick? |
| 03:00.43 | bignose | abrotman: I must say I sympathise with blake_'s position; it seems utterly ludicrous that the question "how do I change my desktop background?" could have such a tortured process of discovery to answer |
| 03:00.47 | abrotman | !dict tick |
| 03:00.50 | blake_ | thats what it gave me |
| 03:00.50 | dpkg | Dictionary 'tick' (3 shown; 26 total): make a clicking or ticking sound; "The clock ticked away" ;; . Tick \Tick\, v. i. 1. To go on trust, or credit. ;; 2. Any small mark intended to direct attention to something, or to serve as a check. --Dickens.. |
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| 03:00.51 | helix | blake_: oh, not together |
| 03:00.55 | ilovelinux | i have a windows partition that i wish to access with my regular user... currently only root can do that... how do i make it accessible to all users? |
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| 03:01.10 | abrotman | what kind of dictionary is that? |
| 03:01.17 | OctalTHOR | ilovelinux : Add a 'umask' option to the fstab entry. |
| 03:01.19 | helix | blake_: well, if you do a cat /etc/debian_version and it doesn't exist.. |
| 03:01.20 | abrotman | helix: yes .. a tick .. the creepy crawly kind |
| 03:01.23 | helix | are you running debian? |
| 03:01.24 | OctalTHOR | ilovelinux : see man fstab |
| 03:01.25 | helix | abrotman: oh, ew |
| 03:01.34 | ilovelinux | OctalTHOR: thanks... |
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| 03:01.39 | abrotman | helix: im only at risk for lyme disease :) |
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| 03:01.48 | helix | abrotman: oh, yay :/ |
| 03:01.58 | abrotman | helix: i got it off quickly .. hopefully before it bit |
| 03:01.58 | jbr | element: sorry, distracted... just "man dpkg" and look for "purge" |
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| 03:02.15 | helix | abrotman: that's why i don't go outside |
| 03:02.20 | abrotman | blake_: cat /etc/debian_version .. what does it say |
| 03:02.23 | element | jbr: thank you |
| 03:02.29 | abrotman | blake_: also .. dpkg -l | grep gnome-bin |
| 03:02.33 | blake_ | helix: says 'testing/unstable |
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| 03:02.59 | blake_ | abrotman: 'testing/unstable' |
| 03:03.00 | abrotman | blake_: also .. dpkg -l | grep gnome-session rather |
| 03:03.01 | helix | blake_: ok. and the dpkg -l command? what version of gnome does it say? |
| 03:03.09 | abrotman | blake_: also .. 'dpkg -l | grep gnome-session' rather |
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| 03:03.10 | helix | blake_: if nothing, replace gnome with kde |
| 03:03.14 | bignose | helix: I go outside all the time. on the outside of this room are the toilet and the kitchen, which I visit often. I haven't gone as far as the big blue room yet, but I intend to one day. |
| 03:03.30 | helix | abrotman: well, that's sort of an extra step, no? dpkg -l gnome-session should be sufficient in that case |
| 03:03.34 | abrotman | helix: i like to ride bike .. my apt is small |
| 03:03.48 | helix | abrotman: ah. my apt has super cow powers. |
| 03:03.51 | abrotman | helix: oh bother .. symantics :) |
| 03:03.52 | jbr | bignose: ooh, the big blue room, I wonder if it's like the big rooms in nethack? |
| 03:03.53 | blake_ | abrotman: gave me nothing |
| 03:03.55 | abrotman | !moo |
| 03:03.55 | dpkg | mooooooo! I'm a cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! Type apt-get moo. |
| 03:04.03 | abrotman | blake_: dpkg -l kde-base |
| 03:04.13 | abrotman | !moo moo |
| 03:04.13 | bignose | jbr: in some respects. you can't see the opposite wall, for one thing. |
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| 03:04.17 | abrotman | !purr |
| 03:04.25 | abrotman | dpkg can't purr? |
| 03:04.30 | dpkg | no idea, abrotman |
| 03:04.35 | helix | maybe i have to pet him first |
| 03:04.35 | blake_ | abrotman: No packages found matching kde-base |
| 03:04.45 | helix | !pet dpkg |
| 03:04.50 | helix | :( |
| 03:04.52 | dan2 | haha |
| 03:04.55 | abrotman | oh .. there is no kde-base anymore |
| 03:05.08 | abrotman | dpkg -l kde |
| 03:05.09 | dpkg | ii kde 3.3-3.1 abrotman's private gamp collection |
| 03:05.17 | abrotman | dpkg: not you |
| 03:05.17 | dpkg | not me! |
| 03:05.23 | abrotman | dpkg: stop it |
| 03:05.23 | dpkg | abrotman: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
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| 03:05.39 | blake_ | abrotman: Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold |
| 03:05.39 | blake_ | | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |
| 03:05.39 | blake_ | |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) |
| 03:05.39 | blake_ | ||/ Name Version Description |
| 03:05.39 | blake_ | +++-==============-==============-============================================ |
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| 03:05.46 | helix | heh |
| 03:05.47 | helix | oops. |
| 03:05.59 | abrotman | damn it .. so close to the info we wanted |
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| 03:06.11 | OctalTHOR | Try again, blake_. |
| 03:06.11 | blake_ | whoops |
| 03:06.13 | abrotman | blake_: uhm .. dont flood |
| 03:06.21 | abrotman | just the line with kde on it should be ok |
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| 03:06.24 | bignose | blake_: try just the line showing the package |
| 03:06.24 | helix | blake_: just paste the part with ii |
| 03:06.47 | blake_ | helix: there is no ii |
| 03:06.58 | mbjones | The crontab file allows you to specify MAILTO, to send an e-mail to a specified account, however, is there a MAILFROM field? It does not say in the man pages. My SMTP server is restricted based on the username. I am not receiving any email because the SMTP must be rejecting the from address. Any ideas? |
| 03:06.59 | helix | o_O |
| 03:07.05 | helix | blake_: so you don't have kde *or* gnome? |
| 03:07.08 | Marcos | hello everyboy, anybody use kurukin |
| 03:07.26 | blake_ | helix: well I think my friend is trying to compile something on here |
| 03:07.39 | helix | umm.. |
| 03:07.39 | abrotman | blake_: ls -l /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager |
| 03:07.44 | blake_ | helix: don't know what the fuck it is |
| 03:07.48 | helix | blake_: "think"? why do you think this? |
| 03:08.03 | helix | abrotman: wow, we should have suggested that about 20 minutes ago |
| 03:08.15 | abrotman | helix: maybe .. but i was busy on a rant :) |
| 03:08.21 | blake_ | helix: fluxbox |
| 03:08.24 | helix | ah, fluxbox |
| 03:08.27 | streuner_ | hmm |
| 03:08.30 | helix | blake_: apt-get install xloadimage |
| 03:08.36 | abrotman | wow ... |
| 03:08.37 | helix | blake_: xsetbg /path/to/image |
| 03:08.39 | helix | although.. |
| 03:08.41 | abrotman | all that for fluxbox |
| 03:08.44 | helix | fluxbox .. does it use bsetbg? |
| 03:08.51 | blake_ | I told you all |
| 03:08.51 | helix | it may be already included |
| 03:08.52 | abrotman | helix: he said xsetbg doesn't keep the image |
| 03:09.02 | helix | abrotman: that's why he needs to use .xsession |
| 03:09.06 | blake_ | bsetbg |
| 03:09.13 | myren | X isnt allowing non-local connections |
| 03:09.18 | myren | help |
| 03:09.50 | abrotman | oh wait .. #fluxbox exists? |
| 03:09.58 | blake_ | it does? |
| 03:09.58 | bignose | blake_: to help explain the frustration being directed at you, many here are wondering why you seem to be only partly in charge of the machine in question. are you the administrator (person who takes care of it)? or is that someone else's job? |
| 03:10.03 | abrotman | dunno .. im kind of asking |
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| 03:10.23 | helix | abrotman: /who #fluxbox returns very little |
| 03:10.32 | blake_ | bignose: well I'm a learner being taught by a friend |
| 03:10.33 | programmer90 | Excuse me, but I was wondering how i would go about setting up my printer in Debian? |
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| 03:11.02 | abrotman | thats some friend you got that installs fluxbox and runs :) |
| 03:11.06 | bignose | blake_: in-person support is far superior to having it happen on an IRC channel. if you have a friend willing to help, do that by preference. |
| 03:11.06 | blake_ | bignose: I am sortof the administrator |
| 03:11.20 | blake_ | bignose: he isn't on gaim |
| 03:11.36 | bignose | blake_: er, nor are we. |
| 03:11.37 | abrotman | blake_: do you know the difference between something like fluxbox,gnome,kde? |
| 03:11.51 | bignose | blake_: (what does "on gaim" mean?) |
| 03:12.11 | \Igor\ | programmer90: make sure it's connected, install cupsys, configure printer through webpage |
| 03:12.12 | programmer90 | What program can i use to set up my printer in Debian? |
| 03:12.13 | abrotman | bignose: gaim ... can use AIM,MSM,Yahoo!,Jabber |
| 03:12.27 | bignose | abrotman: none of which apply here. I assume it also does IRC. |
| 03:12.30 | blake_ | abrotman: I told u a long time ago it was fluxbox |
| 03:12.35 | abrotman | gaim may do irc too .. dunno |
| 03:12.38 | cafuego | poor mustafa |
| 03:12.40 | programmer90 | Webpage? heh i dont have internet access pm that computer |
| 03:12.42 | debian | programmer90: it's more like it - straight to the point. :) CUP |
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| 03:12.52 | abrotman | blake_: im asking you if you know the difference .. to pick one or the other |
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| 03:12.56 | programmer90 | ok |
| 03:13.02 | debian | CUPS even |
| 03:13.09 | blake_ | bignose: I talk to my friend on gaim and meet him at school |
| 03:13.10 | bignose | programmer90: the Common Unix Printing System, CUPS |
| 03:13.11 | abrotman | blake_: you have a choice .. you're not limited to fluxbox |
| 03:13.14 | programmer90 | ok |
| 03:13.22 | \Igor\ | programmer90: cups sets an a webpage interface that's local to your computer: http://localhost:631/, that number is from memory |
| 03:13.30 | dan2 | debian: CUPS makes printing easy! :) |
| 03:13.34 | programmer90 | oh ok |
| 03:13.40 | blake_ | abrotman: I know, he said gnome wouldn't run on this computer |
| 03:13.55 | abrotman | blake_: how old is the computer? |
| 03:14.05 | abrotman | or what are the specs |
| 03:14.09 | dan2 | debian: I didn't even have to configure cups on pretty much any of these machines, only the main one |
| 03:14.18 | bignose | blake_: a person who can meet you one-on-one, regularly, is much better than an IRC channel. best to use this for very specific questions, where you're prepared to give lots of information -- because we can't make any assumptions about what you've actually got at your end. |
| 03:14.20 | blake_ | abrotman: pentium 2 |
| 03:14.20 | dan2 | debian: broadcasts all printers to the rest of them |
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| 03:14.30 | mbjones | The crontab file allows you to specify MAILTO, to send an e-mail to a specified account, however, is there a MAILFROM field? It does not say in the man pages. My SMTP server is restricted based on the username. I am not receiving any email because the SMTP must be rejecting the from address. Any ideas? |
| 03:14.34 | programmer90 | everytime i try to run dselect, i get "de = DevelopmentDevelopment in file Available close to line 1 mus end in a colon, whats that mean? |
| 03:14.47 | abrotman | blake_: if its above a 300Mhz and at least 128MB RAM .. id think gnome would be ok .. at least worth a try |
| 03:14.48 | bignose | mbjones: what would MAILFROM do? |
| 03:14.51 | cafuego | blake_: if you have 256Mb of ram, gnome will be fine. 128Mb will work too, but it'll use some swap. |
| 03:14.57 | bignose | mbjones: the message comes from the user who runs the job. |
| 03:14.59 | helix | abrotman: eek. |
| 03:15.02 | blake_ | abrotman: ok it will work |
| 03:15.12 | mbjones | bignose: Right, but the SMTP will reject the username its using. |
| 03:15.16 | abrotman | helix: it can work .. it may not be pretty |
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| 03:15.22 | bignose | mbjones: tough. |
| 03:15.24 | helix | abrotman: yeah, exactly. why suggest it? |
| 03:15.26 | abrotman | blake_: it may not be the fastest thing |
| 03:15.32 | helix | abrotman: there are like 50 wm's in debian |
| 03:15.35 | \Igor\ | programmer90: your local package database may be corrupt |
| 03:15.37 | cafuego | abrotman: well duh, it's gnome, of course it won't be pretty ;-) |
| 03:15.38 | mbjones | bignose: Loose the attitude |
| 03:15.39 | abrotman | helix: because its "easier" to use than fluxbox |
| 03:15.48 | helix | abrotman: well, so is fvwm or icewm |
| 03:15.51 | bignose | mbjones: the SMTP server is rejecting mail you want to receive. sounds like you need to reconfigure the SMTP server, not cron. |
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| 03:15.54 | blake_ | abrotman: but he is compiling sumething that works like fluxbox |
| 03:15.55 | bartw_ | is there a trick to get wireless working with debian 2.6 kernel? |
| 03:16.04 | abrotman | blackbox? |
| 03:16.09 | mbjones | bignose: If I had control over the ISP's SMTP server settings I would. I don't, so I can't |
| 03:16.11 | cafuego | blake_: yeah, get wireless-tools and a wireless card |
| 03:16.13 | \Igor\ | programmer90: you can remove /var/lib/dpkg/available, then run apt-get update |
| 03:16.17 | blake_ | abrotman: no hold |
| 03:16.30 | abrotman | blake_: openbox? |
| 03:16.32 | cafuego | debian: Shush, HP LasterJets are great. |
| 03:16.34 | blake_ | abrotman: kevlar I think |
| 03:16.36 | bignose | mbjones: eh? why is a local delivery of mail (which is what cron does) going to your ISP? |
| 03:16.38 | helix | openbox for a newbie would be teh funny |
| 03:16.39 | programmer90 | shhot i just gotta reinstall Debian all over again |
| 03:16.41 | abrotman | ok .. new one for me |
| 03:16.44 | \Igor\ | bartw_: you must have a supported card |
| 03:16.48 | abrotman | helix: sohuold we suggest rat poison? |
| 03:16.52 | helix | kevlar? never heard of it |
| 03:16.55 | helix | abrotman: no, ion2! |
| 03:16.59 | abrotman | heh |
| 03:17.16 | mbjones | bignose: Because I asked earlier how to get output of cronjobs to be e-mailed to my email account. I was told to specify MAILTO="user@domain.com", however, I'm not getting the mail |
| 03:17.21 | \Igor\ | programmer90: that is very rarely necessary |
| 03:17.32 | programmer90 | I dont have internet access |
| 03:17.35 | cafuego | helix/abrotman: Why not 9wm? That's lightweight and easy. |
| 03:17.41 | dan2 | cafuego: epson printers blow |
| 03:17.48 | helix | cafuego: i've never used it so i have no idea what it's like.. |
| 03:17.48 | abrotman | cafuego: i actually prefer blackbox when i need something small |
| 03:17.49 | blake_ | abrotman: I think that is it |
| 03:17.52 | bartw_ | \Igor\ orinoco. works great with 2.4. modules load wiiwth 2.6, but can't get it to talk. |
| 03:17.54 | \Igor\ | programmer90: last time i reinstalled mine was about 5 years ago |
| 03:17.57 | helix | blake_: kevlar doesn't even come up on google |
| 03:18.05 | blake_ | helix: hmm |
| 03:18.15 | programmer90 | heh i did it twice today |
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| 03:18.27 | abrotman | blake_: well .. i think helix told you how to load an image a while ago ... |
| 03:18.27 | cafuego | helix: it does what it says, it manages windows (and absolutely nothing else) |
| 03:18.32 | helix | cafuego: 9wm is dead upstream anyway but i guess there is a debian package |
| 03:18.34 | bignose | cafuego: your machines sue each other? man, I never realised the USA had got so bad. |
| 03:18.38 | \Igor\ | bartw_: sorry, not an expert on those; only tip: make sure the module compiles well then get info about the device with iwlist and iwconfig |
| 03:18.47 | jbr | mbjones: you're sure they're getting off the original machine? You see them in the outgoing mail logs? |
| 03:18.50 | cafuego | bignose: TAKE THAT BACK, BITCH! |
| 03:18.52 | zorkadi | # |
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| 03:18.57 | blake_ | abrotman: I know how to load a image but it won't automatically load when I restart x-server |
| 03:19.08 | helix | bignose: that's the best way to insult cafuego - call him american ;) |
| 03:19.20 | helix | blake_: you have to use a file called .xsession |
| 03:19.26 | mbjones | jbr: How could I check that, I'm pretty sure, but I'll check |
| 03:19.30 | helix | blake_: which is another long discussion :) |
| 03:19.38 | blake_ | helix: :( |
| 03:19.45 | abrotman | heavy petting!!!! |
| 03:19.48 | abrotman | woohoo |
| 03:20.01 | blake_ | helix: maybe tomorrow |
| 03:20.13 | helix | xsetbg $HOME/butter.jpg & x-window-manager |
| 03:20.14 | abrotman | heh |
| 03:20.18 | jbr | mbjones: if it's using exim/exim4, look in /var/log/exim*/mainlog |
| 03:20.18 | abrotman | !smack me |
| 03:20.33 | helix | blake_: those should do it.. well, maybe a line break is needed, not sure |
| 03:20.46 | abrotman | helix: that wasn't very long |
| 03:20.48 | helix | blake_: and before those, xrdb -merge $HOME/.Xresources, if you have an .Xresources |
| 03:20.53 | blake_ | helix: i should type x-window-manager after it? |
| 03:20.59 | helix | abrotman: well, i have more in mine. but that's all that's necessary. |
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| 03:21.25 | abrotman | blake_: that should work |
| 03:21.30 | blake_ | k |
| 03:21.35 | helix | blake_: open a text editor, put those in it, and save it as .xsession in your home directory |
| 03:21.40 | mbjones | jbr: What does "Message is frozen" mean? |
| 03:21.47 | helix | blake_: but replace butter.jpg with whatever the path to the image is |
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| 03:21.54 | jbr | mbjones: means it didn't get out |
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| 03:22.01 | cafuego | bignose: any !usa is fine |
| 03:22.06 | helix | blake_: i.e. if you have $HOME/images/blah.jpg, use that |
| 03:22.07 | cafuego | except maybe belgium |
| 03:22.25 | xam | cafuego: and the dutch ... |
| 03:22.29 | mbjones | jbr: I have weird usersnames in this log file as well |
| 03:22.37 | mbjones | jbr: Seems like spammers are trying to use the SMTP? |
| 03:22.39 | blake_ | helix: I have an .xsession |
| 03:22.48 | cafuego | xam: Nothing wrong with the dutch |
| 03:22.52 | bignose | mbjones: is it open to the world? likely you don't need that |
| 03:22.58 | helix | blake_: ok, then edit it.. is there anything in it? |
| 03:23.10 | blake_ | helix: fluxbox-session |
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| 03:23.22 | bignose | mbjones: "open to the world" simply meaning "accepting SMTP connections from the Internet", in this case |
| 03:23.23 | mbjones | bignose: I only want the machine itself to send mail out, its not a real SMTP server, it's supposed to forward onto our mail server's SMTP |
| 03:23.27 | helix | blake_: ah, ok. make a new line above that and put the xsetbg command |
| 03:23.34 | xam | cafugeo: ever watched austin powers? |
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| 03:23.41 | helix | blake_: the & after it is important though |
| 03:23.44 | bignose | mbjones: in that case, it certainly doesn't need to listne on the Internet interface for SMTP |
| 03:23.46 | mbjones | mbjones: So when the machine tries to send mail, it's supposed to use another mail server |
| 03:23.49 | cafuego | xam: yes, I have. |
| 03:23.58 | xam | cafugeo: all 3 |
| 03:24.00 | xam | ? |
| 03:24.01 | bignose | bignose: mbjones is talking to himself again |
| 03:24.02 | cafuego | xam: That bears no relation to what actually foes on in holland, though. |
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| 03:24.31 | mbjones | bignose: So I'll block port 25 |
| 03:24.37 | xam | cafuego: then you should have realized that I tried to make a reference to the movie |
| 03:24.46 | bignose | mbjones: or simply configure the SMTP server not to listen on that interface |
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| 03:24.50 | jbr | mbjones: you probably need to dpkg-reconfigure the mta anyway |
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| 03:24.53 | blake_ | helix: the &? |
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| 03:25.06 | helix | blake_: yeah, xsetbg /path/to/image & |
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| 03:25.16 | blake_ | oh |
| 03:25.18 | helix | blake_: if you don't, it won't work |
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| 03:25.30 | mbjones | bignose: host_accept_relay = 127.0.0.1 : ::::1 is in my file |
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| 03:25.34 | Ketter | xam: please... please explain :) |
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| 03:25.44 | helix | hmm, i'm cold |
| 03:25.49 | blake_ | helix: nutin after &? |
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| 03:25.51 | debian | wongyb: hi |
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| 03:25.55 | helix | um |
| 03:25.56 | bignose | blake_: the ';' and '&' are command separators in the shell |
| 03:26.04 | helix | blake_: yes, you need the fluxbox-session thing on the next line |
| 03:26.04 | xam | cafuego: what is wrong with belgium? (Apart from the fact that they are manufacturing all kinds of weapons and selling them to *anybody*) |
| 03:26.06 | mbjones | bignose: According to the comments, that is supposed to lock it to localhost |
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| 03:26.09 | bignose | blake_: the ';' causes the shell to wait for each one to finish before running the next |
| 03:26.10 | abrotman | blake_: xsetbg /path/to/image & x-window-manager |
| 03:26.18 | blake_ | helix: thanks |
| 03:26.20 | bignose | blake_: the '&' causes each one to run simultaneously |
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| 03:26.35 | blake_ | bignose: ok |
| 03:26.39 | simonrvn | uh, && is, & backgrounds things |
| 03:26.56 | bignose | simonrvn: no, '&&' is different again |
| 03:27.01 | simonrvn | bignose: yeh that's true |
| 03:27.08 | bignose | simonrvn: and "backgrounds things" is a different way of saying what I said |
| 03:27.16 | blake_ | abrotman how do u do that? |
| 03:27.17 | simonrvn | bignose: :) |
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| 03:27.28 | blake_ | ! sits |
| 03:27.33 | streuner_ | now we know the difference! |
| 03:27.36 | xam | blake_: try /me |
| 03:27.41 | abrotman | blake_: do what? |
| 03:27.45 | abrotman | oh |
| 03:27.52 | simonrvn | !sit blake |
| 03:28.02 | blake_ | !sit blake |
| 03:28.03 | helix | ah, kanye west |
| 03:28.03 | abrotman | blake_: /me sits |
| 03:28.06 | mbjones | bignose: Is there a program to run to configure exim? |
| 03:28.12 | abrotman | heh |
| 03:28.14 | blake_ | ok |
| 03:28.22 | bignose | mbjones: to reocnfigure any package, 'dpkg-reconfigure nameofthepackage' |
| 03:28.23 | Ketter | now give blake a treat simonrvn |
| 03:28.29 | Ketter | the least you can do ;) |
| 03:28.30 | simonrvn | @cookie |
| 03:28.34 | ravenbird | Hey simonrvn, server space is email mpinto@markybob.com for free storage of your unofficial debs. email/ftp/web/ssh |
| 03:28.36 | bignose | mbjones: beyond that, edit the config file |
| 03:28.41 | simonrvn | wtf |
| 03:28.44 | mbjones | bignose: Right, that didn't do anything |
| 03:28.45 | helix | um |
| 03:28.45 | blake_ | bye |
| 03:29.26 | abrotman | simonrvn: thats a neat cookie |
| 03:29.26 | Hyp3rion | blake_, Nytol |
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| 03:29.26 | mbjones | bignose: I just remember there being a text gui to configure it |
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| 03:29.27 | simonrvn | abrotman: it is not |
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| 03:29.45 | bignose | mbjones: you may be remembering the debconf interface, which isn't provided by exim but rather by the package manager |
| 03:29.47 | abrotman | simonrvn: it was a joke .. sorry |
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| 03:30.06 | bignose | mbjones: if there's something beyond 'dpkg-reconfigure exim', I'm not aware of it |
| 03:30.08 | helix | this seems like an uneventful sunday. did i miss something? |
| 03:30.09 | hanasaki | a php program is installed and apache + php3 are installed. whien i click on a link it is asking me to save the php file why isnt php processing the page? |
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| 03:30.20 | abrotman | helix: did oyu miss my rant? |
| 03:30.32 | helix | abrotman: the one that caused me to pet you? |
| 03:30.32 | mbjones | bignose: Well 'dpkg-reconfigure exim' does nothing, so there must be something else |
| 03:30.33 | abrotman | helix: granted it wasn't mwilson quality .. |
| 03:30.33 | bignose | hanasaki: you haven't told Apache what to do with php files. |
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| 03:30.40 | helix | abrotman: haha, that was a mild rant |
| 03:30.41 | xam | well, not really new, but I haven't had any use for it since now |
| 03:30.49 | bignose | hanasaki: read the docs for php and apache; it's quite off-topic here. |
| 03:30.51 | hanasaki | bignose: umm no :( i was hoping that the installer for php woudl do that |
| 03:30.52 | abrotman | !sleep |
| 03:30.52 | dpkg | rumour has it, sleep is For pussies. Or, sleep is probably a poor substitute for coffee or for mortals or for the weak or the glory of the cowards and the un-caffeinateds. :-) or the activity of choice for the intelligent person or time which could be spent hacking the planet.. or .. whatever .. ZZzzzz ... |
| 03:31.04 | bignose | hanasaki: #apache or #php are better |
| 03:31.04 | hanasaki | bignose: thats the only reason why i aske4d .. thanks |
| 03:31.05 | hanasaki | bbl |
| 03:31.06 | abrotman | exactly .. sleepytime |
| 03:31.11 | helix | abrotman: boa noite |
| 03:31.21 | abrotman | helix: thanks for the petting ... later |
| 03:31.25 | helix | haha |
| 03:31.25 | simonrvn | abrotman: g'night |
| 03:31.46 | cafuego | hanasaki: Uninstall php3, install php4, Check /etc/apache/httpd.conf and make sure the AddType for .php is not commented. |
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| 03:32.34 | helix | @wb |
| 03:32.40 | ravenbird | thanks, helix. It's good to be back. |
| 03:32.41 | hanasaki | thank you cafuego |
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| 03:33.51 | Hejux | how to unistall flashget plug-ins in opera? all? |
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| 03:34.34 | dan2 | !kill ravenbot and other clones |
| 03:34.54 | debian | @owner |
| 03:34.55 | streuner_ | Hejux: don't use opera until you use a full version |
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| 03:34.55 | ravenbird | simonrvn |
| 03:35.01 | Hyp3rion | dan2, Lol its not ravenbot >:-< |
| 03:35.12 | debian | @master |
| 03:35.12 | ravenbird | Mr. Bates isn't here right now. |
