| 00:00.02 | Gnuman | I'm sure there is a fix available |
| 00:00.07 | Gnuman | and we can find it |
| 00:00.34 | sussudio | you can get adsl for next to nothing in germany if you live in a big city |
| 00:00.35 | IdNotWindows | hope so, every little thing i learned so far i tried and couldn't solve it |
| 00:00.37 | caphuso | Gnuman: sure, but that doesn't help me work around a broken monitor like my serial line dumb terminal does |
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| 00:00.48 | Gnuman | the thing about Linux that I love the most is that you *can* get under the hood and fix things. . . |
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| 00:01.14 | IdNotWindows | Gnuman: you make things sound simple |
| 00:01.16 | Gnuman | Oh, OK |
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| 00:01.31 | Gnuman | your *console* is at 9600bd |
| 00:01.41 | vpalle | any app with x11 that can pop and give you a message.. say like xpop "compilation finished" ?? |
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| 00:01.43 | Gnuman | what is your *net* connection then? |
| 00:01.53 | caphuso | Gnuman: 768/128 |
| 00:02.05 | mitchell | Is there a quick, easy way to set up a router? eg apt-get install router-that-magically-works? |
| 00:02.05 | Gnuman | that is not too bad. . . |
| 00:02.06 | esop | sussudio: do you loke to whip out your wang and play with it every once and a while? |
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| 00:02.18 | Gnuman | about three times what IdNotWindows is getting |
| 00:02.35 | IdNotWindows | yup |
| 00:02.37 | esop | like even :) |
| 00:02.53 | sussudio | esop: you don't just whip out a wang. it's huge and heavy. |
| 00:03.19 | caphuso | Gnuman: well, it's seriously oversized, given that my browsers need almost a second to just print one screen :) |
| 00:03.21 | esop | sussudio: stud! |
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| 00:03.36 | Gnuman | heh, that is better. . . |
| 00:03.46 | sussudio | esop: it has EISA and a redundant PSU and shit. |
| 00:03.47 | Gnuman | oh well |
| 00:04.13 | IdNotWindows | Gnuman: still on the 'keyboard domain', is there a way to make apostrophe+consonant(t for example) produce 't like windows, without having to hit space after the ' ? (kb w/ deadkeys) |
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| 00:04.19 | esop | sussudio: I rememnber a WANG store that I passed going to school back in the day... sounds fun though. |
| 00:04.49 | sussudio | the wang can run headless, you don't even need to put a vgacard in |
| 00:04.55 | stew | i just tried to go from kernel 2.6.5 to 2.4.26 and now in x, if i move my mouse in any direction that is not toward the upper right corner, the mouse moves immediately to the lower left corner anyone ever seenthat? |
| 00:05.15 | Gnuman | sussudio, most wangs *are* headless |
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| 00:05.33 | Gnuman | IdNotWindows, i'm not sure what you are asking |
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| 00:05.48 | IdNotWindows | stew: i've seen my mouse freeze on the upper-left... it was a messy 'xset m' config (not really messy in my oppinion, but didn't work) |
| 00:06.20 | IdNotWindows | Gnuman: really hard to explain, nevermind ehehhe... it's a very subtle detail to spend time on right now... |
| 00:07.29 | cod | exit |
| 00:07.37 | Gnuman | ok, the debian servers seem to be averaging 145K/sec to me |
| 00:08.20 | vpalle | any app with x11 that can pop and give you a message.. say like xpop "compilation finished" ?? |
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| 00:08.45 | IdNotWindows | i'll brush my teeth.. brb |
| 00:08.56 | Gnuman | vpalle, have you looked at linpopup? |
| 00:09.02 | jbr | vpalle: it's possible to rig something up with eg gmessage |
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| 00:09.20 | sbk | vpalle: also xmessage might be an option |
| 00:10.01 | vpalle | thx all.. |
| 00:10.14 | vpalle | xmessage was exactly what i was looking for |
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| 00:11.01 | Gnuman | there are *so* many options there |
| 00:11.17 | Gnuman | or for most needs for that matter |
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| 00:14.15 | anonobomber | vpalle, or with kde you could do kdialog |
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| 00:14.48 | edrin | hi |
| 00:14.54 | anonobomber | yo |
| 00:15.14 | edrin | i am quite new to debian. i got debian testing. |
| 00:15.31 | edrin | i got kde3 runing, sound is ok, and the dsl modem is working |
| 00:15.35 | edrin | well |
| 00:15.51 | edrin | i accidently activated the "dial in on boot" |
| 00:15.58 | edrin | where can i deactivate this? |
| 00:16.10 | edrin | means: where are all the start scripts? |
| 00:16.32 | Gnuman | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:17.14 | cafuego | edrin: rm /etc/ppp_on_boot (I think) |
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| 00:18.13 | mroth | anyone having problems with the console-common_0.7.41_all.deb pushed to testing sometime recently? |
| 00:19.16 | anonobomber | mroth, yea dpkg errors, so i pinned it |
| 00:19.23 | medgno | mroth: try dpkg-reconfigure console-common and selecting a locale. |
| 00:19.26 | jbr | mroth: is that http://bugs.debian.org/248906 ? |
| 00:19.33 | medgno | then do the install |
| 00:20.07 | mroth | looks like thats it... i'll try that workaround |
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| 00:20.32 | seberino | when a dns server tells/records what machine has authority for a subdomain... does it record ip address or the domainname or both?? ip addresses are more stable so i would think it would bind authority to an *ip address* only instead of a domainname.. is that right? |
| 00:20.36 | mroth | thanks guys |
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| 00:20.51 | edrin | cafuego: thx, worked. |
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| 00:21.43 | theturtle | i'm happy as hell, removing redhat remotely :) |
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| 00:22.07 | anonobomber | theturtle, ah you have seen the light :) |
| 00:22.08 | theturtle | thanks again justin |
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| 00:22.20 | Justin | it worked? |
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| 00:22.37 | theturtle | still running the script, moment of truth is the reboot |
| 00:22.42 | theturtle | almost complete though |
| 00:22.47 | abrotman | debtakeover? |
| 00:22.50 | robtaylor | umm when i add non-us.debian.org to my apt'sources i get |
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| 00:22.59 | robtaylor | Whiz: GPG error: <A HREF="http://non-us.debian.org">http://non-us.debian.org</A> unstable/non-US Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY B629A24C38C6029A<br>W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems<br> |
| 00:23.04 | robtaylor | any ideas why? |
| 00:23.17 | cafuego | brian__: Get the key from a keyserver |
| 00:23.25 | cafuego | s/brian__/robtaylor/ |
| 00:23.26 | abrotman | your computer is called Whiz? |
| 00:23.45 | theturtle | abrotman exactly, debtakeover |
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| 00:23.53 | robtaylor | cafuego: can you explain? |
| 00:23.56 | abrotman | theturtle: id be interested to find out if it works |
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| 00:24.26 | robtaylor | why do i only get it with this server and not with others? |
| 00:24.33 | cafuego | robtaylor: GPG needs the public key to verify the signature on that file. if you don't have the key, it won't work. ie: get the key. |
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| 00:25.09 | idnar | seberino: not really |
| 00:25.14 | theturtle | u need a diff key for non-us stuff? |
| 00:25.21 | theturtle | logically that seems right to me |
| 00:25.24 | idnar | seberino: NS records contain hostnames, not IP addresses |
| 00:25.25 | robtaylor | i understand that much.. where do i get the key, and why is a key needed for this server? |
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| 00:25.28 | sbartley | Anyone able to help with cups printer configuration? Getting client-error-not-found message when trying to print test print from cups web configurator |
| 00:25.28 | menteco | which command returns just my current IP address? |
| 00:25.31 | idnar | seberino: there are two types of delegation, though |
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| 00:25.42 | robtaylor | cafuego: i{ve been using debian for years and never seen this before.. |
| 00:25.55 | mroth | off-topic, but does anyone have a good website for gnome themes/skins? I am finally upgrading from fvwm land, heh |
| 00:26.02 | cafuego | theturtle: if they're at all serious, tyou'll need a different key for everyone that signed a file. |
| 00:26.03 | robtaylor | this is on apt-get update |
| 00:26.08 | idnar | seberino: the best way of doing it is where the nameserver for foo.bar.com is something like ns1.foo.bar.com |
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| 00:26.12 | anonobomber | mroth, art.gnome.org themes.freshmeat.net |
| 00:26.24 | mrz0g | can someone give me their sources.list ? |
| 00:26.26 | idnar | seberino: that will be accompanied by an A record giving 1.2.3.4 (or whatever) as the IP address for ns1.foo.bar.com |
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| 00:26.31 | mrz0g | or a link... |
| 00:26.42 | robtaylor | theturte: ah. i see |
| 00:27.09 | idnar | seberino: the nameserver will return the A record in addition to the NS record when queried for the NS record, so it's about as good as delegating to an IP address |
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| 00:27.26 | robtaylor | is there a nice easy way to get this key? |
| 00:27.29 | prometh | does anyone know of any good collaboration software? |
| 00:27.38 | idnar | seberino: the other kind of delegation is so-called "glueless" delegation, where the hostname being delegated to is outside of the domain that you're authoritative to |
| 00:27.40 | prometh | (free or commercial) |
| 00:27.57 | idnar | seberino: say, ns1.asdf.com |
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| 00:28.27 | Gnuman | mrz0g, what is it that you need? |
| 00:28.33 | idnar | seberino: now, you can't provide the IP address for ns1.asdf.com, because even if you did, you're not authoritative for that domain, and so other DNS clients should correctly ignore your claims about asdf.com |
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| 00:28.51 | Migrainpro | hi there |
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| 00:29.15 | idnar | seberino: instead, they have to go and perform further lookups to get an IP address for ns1.asdf.com, before contacting it; this also means that anyone that controls asdf.com also controls foo.bar.com |
| 00:29.18 | menteco | which command I can use to return just my current IP address? |
| 00:29.24 | idnar | seberino: hope that helps :) |
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| 00:29.36 | edrin | kopete is a very shitty client |
| 00:29.52 | edrin | uhm |
| 00:29.57 | edrin | i have an intranet |
| 00:30.07 | sbartley | menteco, /sbin/ifconfig but it gives a little more than just the ip |
| 00:30.27 | Migrainpro | menteco i belive it would be ifconfig..but may be different here on debian |
| 00:30.44 | Migrainpro | hehe..just installed debian... |
| 00:30.49 | edrin | sometimes this computer has to dial in and sometimes there is already a connection i have to access over a local LAN gateway. is there an easy way to configure both of them to coexist? |
| 00:30.57 | oigres | I need to set up a webpage for a conference registration. I would like users to change their info at will and being displayed automatically on the web. Is there something like that already, like for ex. a deb? |
| 00:31.00 | debian | sbartley: you need to learn some string manipulation commands to parse the value yu want |
| 00:31.14 | theturtle | robtaylor try gpg -keyserver non-us.debian.org -sendkeys |
| 00:31.24 | sbartley | debian, correct, but for a quick command to get the info, ifconfig works. |
| 00:31.26 | Spartak | hi, i just installed apache2-prefork and php4 and mysql modules and when i load the web site in konqueror it works fine but in firefox it asks me to save it or open as PHTML can someone please help? |
| 00:31.33 | menteco | sbartley: what I need is to pipe my IP address to a file. |
| 00:31.43 | robtaylor | theturtle: Thanks :) |
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| 00:32.01 | seberino | idnar: i don't understand the point of ns records for your foo.bar.com because the dns server for *bar.com* is the one that decides who to delegate authority of *foo.bar.com* to |
| 00:32.03 | theturtle | don't thank me, it's probably not right, try googling for gpg :D |
| 00:32.04 | abrotman | edrin: maybe |
| 00:32.09 | abrotman | !info netconf |
| 00:32.11 | sbartley | menteco, sorry. did not see that in your request. |
| 00:32.13 | debian | sbartley: sorry that's for menteco |
| 00:32.14 | theturtle | i'm trying to learn it here, enver used it myself |
| 00:32.17 | abrotman | hmm .. thats not it |
| 00:32.24 | edrin | ok |
| 00:32.28 | Migrainpro | anyone have a quick and dirty to get a GeForce FX 5200 on currant inst. running? |
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| 00:32.37 | sbartley | debian, np |
| 00:32.38 | seberino | idnar: thanks, yes your info did help |
| 00:32.39 | sussudio | currants? |
| 00:32.42 | edrin | why is kopete that bad? |
| 00:32.47 | Migrainpro | hehe current |
| 00:32.50 | edrin | i would rather use GAIM |
| 00:32.51 | sussudio | raisins? |
| 00:32.55 | abrotman | netevn |
| 00:32.59 | abrotman | erre netenv |
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| 00:33.05 | Migrainpro | but currants are good too |
| 00:33.08 | abrotman | edrin: netenv |
| 00:33.08 | medgno | edrin: it won't let you disable font colours, for one |
| 00:33.11 | samlander | wow... this is truly distrubing :( |
| 00:33.13 | abrotman | edrin: why can't you use gaim? |
| 00:33.28 | edrin | i did not say that :/ |
| 00:33.54 | robtaylor | theturtle: maybe gpg --keyserver bla --import ? |
| 00:34.00 | edrin | it is frustrating having writen a client for win and now moving to linux and having not my own client anymore :/ |
| 00:34.20 | Gnuman | port it |
| 00:34.26 | Gnuman | <G> |
| 00:34.36 | brian__ | can somebody please help me? Im trying to do a dual boot on my laptop with windows xp and debian sarge. How do I get grub to make windows xp an option to boot from¿ |
| 00:34.42 | abrotman | edrin: you wrote a client? |
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| 00:34.46 | sbartley | Where is the best place to get cups help? |
| 00:34.58 | abrotman | brian__: google for "debian grub howto" |
| 00:35.00 | samlander | brian__ get vmware mate |
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| 00:35.14 | samlander | brian__: run winxp in debian ;) that's what i do |
| 00:35.20 | abrotman | brian__: its the first result |
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| 00:35.29 | cafuego | brian__: cd /usr/share/doc/grub/examples/ less menu.lst -> See the windows option. |
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| 00:35.31 | gridbug | Hi folks. I'm trying to get Mailscanner to use Bayesian filtering in Spamassassin... but it doesn't seem to run that filter. Anybody else have trouble with this? |
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| 00:35.48 | samlander | cafuego: your a woody god... think you can help me figure out this burner issue? |
| 00:36.02 | abrotman | heh .. cafuego is a god of woody |
| 00:36.13 | cafuego | s/ of woody// |
| 00:36.13 | samlander | cafuego: I've done the append, but cdrecord -scanbus still aint showing my dvd+- |
| 00:36.14 | Gnuman | ummmmmmmm |
| 00:36.33 | Migrainpro | anyone have a quick and dirty to get a GeForce FX 5200 on current inst. running?OR a some other VGA driver (besides vga tryied that) to get x working? |
| 00:36.34 | cafuego | samlander: As soon as I have a dvd drive I might be able to help. |
| 00:36.43 | theturtle | robtaylor i'd grab the gpg file from |
| 00:36.49 | idnar | seberino: yes, the NS records for foo.bar.com are on bar.com's nameservers |
| 00:36.50 | samlander | you have a cdrecorder do you not? same principle i thought |
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| 00:37.04 | theturtle | ftp://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US/dists/sid/non-US/ |
| 00:37.11 | Gnuman | Migrainpro, what is the problem you are having? |
| 00:37.15 | theturtle | gpg -import Release.gpg |
| 00:37.53 | edrin | Gnuman: in fact it is written in wxwidgets and someone portetd it but there is no nice skin ;) |
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| 00:38.11 | Gnuman | so make skins for it? |
| 00:38.21 | edrin | no time |
| 00:38.27 | edrin | andf i ahve a new project |
| 00:38.36 | edrin | jabber service damend |
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| 00:38.43 | cafuego | samlander: Well, mine are under 2.6, I just use ATAPI burning. |
| 00:39.05 | abrotman | edrin: you're writing another jabberd? |
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| 00:39.18 | samlander | gotcha |
| 00:39.22 | cafuego | edrin: 'daemon', not 'damend' |
| 00:39.30 | Gnuman | cafuego, ATAPI burning? |
| 00:39.37 | edrin | yes |
| 00:39.40 | edrin | i mean |
| 00:39.47 | theturtle | is tee gnu? |
| 00:39.48 | edrin | XMPP Client Daemon ;) |
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| 00:39.59 | Soyrunner | I've installed apache and it works and now am failing at mysql. Does apache need to be listening at port 3306? |
| 00:40.03 | cafuego | samlander: If you're under 2.4, I find it easier in general to just compile ide-cd and scsi stuff as modules and load as appropriate. |
| 00:40.05 | abrotman | theturtle: packages.debian.org/tee .. check the license at the bottom |
| 00:40.21 | cafuego | Gnuman: ATAPI burning |
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| 00:41.00 | Gnuman | cafuego, what package gives that? Or is it a kernel option? |
| 00:41.07 | cafuego | Gnuman: it' |
| 00:41.08 | Gnuman | that I did not see? |
| 00:41.16 | Migrainpro | anyone have a quick and dirty to get a GeForce FX 5200 on current inst. running?OR a some other VGA driver (besides vga tryied that) to get x working? |
| 00:41.17 | cafuego | s a 2.6 kernel only option with a newish cdrecord. |
| 00:41.27 | theturtle | i need source abrotman, i dunno, this sucks, damn script died in the middle cause it's missing tee, why wouldn't he have a check for that |
| 00:41.38 | Gnuman | Migrainpro, what is the problem you are having? |
| 00:41.42 | abrotman | theturtle: tee should be gpl |
| 00:41.44 | IdNotWindows | Migrainpro: only with nvidia drivers |
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| 00:41.49 | cafuego | option in that it just works with the 2.6 cd driver, you don't need that scsi stuff anymore. |
| 00:41.58 | IdNotWindows | Migrainpro: i have a tutorial i followed today just a sec |
| 00:41.58 | abrotman | duh .. no tee package |
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| 00:42.18 | abrotman | http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/s/shellutils/shellutils_2.0.11-11/copyright |
| 00:42.22 | cafuego | tee is probable in fileutils or sysutils |
| 00:42.24 | abrotman | theturtle: ^^ |
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| 00:42.26 | Migrainpro | great thanks IdNotWindows |
| 00:42.27 | Gnuman | IdNotWindows, still 20 mins to go. . . |
| 00:42.42 | peterS | yeah, should be fileutils -> coreutils |
| 00:42.51 | IdNotWindows | Gnuman: i was going to mention that just a sec ehehhe |
| 00:42.53 | dan2 | cafuego: who is good at translating spanish |
| 00:42.58 | AfgBaby | bah, I just reinstalled debian w/ debootstrap to sid, and my fonts seem pretty small, especially in gaim where some things are completely unreadable |
| 00:43.00 | Xenguy | theturtle: dpkg -S /usr/bin/tee |
| 00:43.02 | cafuego | dan2: A spanish person |
| 00:43.10 | abrotman | !spanish |
| 00:43.10 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish speakers: please go to #debian-es, you will get a lot more help there. |
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| 00:43.11 | abrotman | :) |
| 00:43.26 | dan2 | abrotman: #debian-es don't know english :( |
| 00:43.30 | Xenguy | theturtle: or, apt-get install coreutils |
| 00:43.34 | IdNotWindows | Migrainpro: http://www.tinyplanet.ca/~lsorense/debian/debian-nvidia-dri-howto.txt |
| 00:43.34 | abrotman | dan2: this is your homework again .. isnt it? |
| 00:43.39 | sussudio | dan2: los tejones |
| 00:43.44 | theturtle | bad ELF interpreter |
| 00:43.47 | dan2 | abrotman: yeah |
| 00:43.50 | theturtle | damn damn damn |
| 00:43.51 | sussudio | !spank ELF interpreter |
| 00:43.58 | abrotman | dan2: wouldn't it be easier to pay attention in class? |
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| 00:44.09 | IdNotWindows | Gnuman: i have to boot windows to play, a have a match in 20 minutes... i'll stop by tomorrow, is that ok for you? :) |
| 00:44.09 | dan2 | abrotman: no, that involves keeping my eyes open |
| 00:44.17 | Migrainpro | I can translate a bit of spannish if you need it..just dont count on spelling 8) |
| 00:44.21 | jbr | theturtle: Elf interpreter? take it to #debian-quenya |
| 00:44.22 | adahl | can anyone recommend a good dvd player? |
| 00:44.33 | abrotman | dan2: try sleeping .. at night |
| 00:44.34 | peterS | dan2: not really. you mostly listen in class, rather than watch, no? |
| 00:44.34 | Migrainpro | Lite on |
| 00:44.38 | theturtle | has anyone got tee for Woody they could send me? |
| 00:44.47 | abrotman | apt-get install tee? |
| 00:44.49 | sussudio | !tell theturtle about pdo |
| 00:44.53 | dan2 | Migrainpro: http://mirrorlynx.com/~dan/spanishvocab11.pdf |
| 00:44.57 | abrotman | oh .. the script needs it? |
| 00:44.58 | Xenguy | theturtle: apt-get install coreutils <- doesn't work? |
| 00:44.58 | peterS | theturtle: download it from packages.debian.org/shellutils |
| 00:45.13 | abrotman | !find tee |
| 00:45.14 | dan2 | abrotman: its part of coreutils |
| 00:45.14 | dpkg | Debian Package Listing of 'tee' (14 shown): beneath-a-steel-sky ;; dict-gazetteer ;; dict-gazetteer2k ;; dict-gazetteer2k-counties ;; dict-gazetteer2k-places ;; dict-gazetteer2k-zips ;; enlightenment-theme-bluesteel ;; fifteenapplet ;; libspreadsheet-writeexcel-perl ;; multitee ;; noteedit ;; noteedit-data ;; op-fifteen-fb ;; trustees. |
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| 00:45.15 | theturtle | -bash: /usr/bin/apt-get: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: bad ELF interpreter: No such file or directory |
| 00:45.17 | idnar | jbr: what if it's Sindarin? hey? HEY?!? That's the problem with people like you! You never think of the consequences!! People are DYING because of your badly thought-out plans! DO YOU UNDERSTAND ME?!? |
| 00:45.17 | AfgBaby | anyone know how to increase X's font size? |
| 00:45.20 | peterS | Xenguy: not sure coreutils was in woody - was it? I was thinking woody was before the merger |
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| 00:45.23 | Migrainpro | what do you need there or was that you already had it covered? |
| 00:45.35 | peterS | theturtle: you have worse problems than tee, then |
| 00:45.39 | Xenguy | peterS: ahh, could be (running sid here) |
| 00:45.51 | theturtle | peterS- yes, but right now i just need tee |
| 00:45.53 | peterS | theturtle: if you really don't have /lib/ld-linux.so.2, that is Very Bad |
| 00:45.54 | theturtle | for woody, |
| 00:45.57 | jbr | idnar: makes a change from trollish, anyway |
| 00:46.06 | peterS | theturtle: tee will do you no good. it needs ld-linux.so.2 as well |
| 00:46.08 | idnar | jbr: true, true... ;) |
| 00:46.23 | theturtle | peterS- i'm in the middle of a script thats moving me from redhat to debian |
| 00:46.33 | theturtle | stupid thing dumped cause i was missing tee |
| 00:46.36 | peterS | theturtle: like I said, tee will do you no good if ld-linux.so.2 doesn't exist |
| 00:46.52 | IdNotWindows | Gnuman: i have to go now, i'll be back tomorrow, and we will google around the solution, ok? thx for the help.. cya |
| 00:46.59 | theturtle | trust me it will do me just fine if i can just get the bin |
| 00:47.00 | IdNotWindows | :) |
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| 00:47.06 | dan2 | peterS: unless its statically linked :) |
| 00:47.15 | Migrainpro | idNotWindows...diid you have a link for me there 8) |
| 00:47.17 | peterS | dan2: but it's not. and we both know this |
| 00:47.29 | IdNotWindows | Migrainpro: http://www.tinyplanet.ca/~lsorense/debian/debian-nvidia-dri-howto.txt |
| 00:47.38 | IdNotWindows | i just pasted a couple lines above ;) |
| 00:47.48 | peterS | theturtle: like I said, download it yourself. if you have ld-linux.so.2 available, this should be easy |
| 00:47.48 | Migrainpro | beautifull , thanks |
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| 00:48.04 | IdNotWindows | try that, worked perfectly for me... but i had to manually edit XF86Config-4... dpkg-reconfigure for some reason didn like me |
| 00:48.09 | IdNotWindows | gl :) |
| 00:48.12 | IdNotWindows | bye bye |
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| 00:48.44 | green_ears | Migrainpro: http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.html |
| 00:48.53 | abrotman | !nvidia debs |
| 00:48.53 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, nvidia debs is Justin_ has built a set of nvidia debs for woody, sarge, and sid. See http://www.bouncybouncy.net:8000/nvidia_debs/APT_SOURCES or try http://people.debian.org/~rdonald/nvidia/APT or deb http://kambing.vlsm.org/DLL/debian-local stable lokal |
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| 00:50.52 | theturtle | just needed to run ldconfig |
| 00:50.55 | theturtle | whew! |
| 00:51.08 | abrotman | doh! |
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| 00:51.50 | mroth | hmm.. apt-get update; reboot and now my mouse is fucked, heh |
| 00:52.05 | theturtle | sweet |
| 00:52.07 | abrotman | babies comin huh? |
| 00:52.08 | theturtle | now i'm running deb |
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| 00:52.16 | abrotman | theturtle: did it work? |
| 00:52.18 | abrotman | fully? |
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| 00:52.24 | theturtle | yep |
| 00:52.31 | programmer90 | Hello, Can someone please tell me how to add a session to the GDM that starts XFCE? |
| 00:52.32 | mroth | XF86Config looks normal though.. wonder whats screwing it up.. |
| 00:52.50 | Guerin | programmer90: which session manager do you use? |
| 00:52.55 | abrotman | programmer90: /etc/gdm/gdm.conf .. assuming gdm |
| 00:52.57 | Guerin | gah |
| 00:53.13 | programmer90 | Yes its GDM |
| 00:53.31 | theturtle | cat /etc/debian_version 3.0 |
| 00:53.37 | programmer90 | but what do i use heh |
| 00:53.38 | abrotman | did you reboot yet? |
| 00:53.56 | theturtle | doing that now, pray |
| 00:54.12 | programmer90 | once i get in the file, i dont know i heards you could use exec xfwm and exec startxfce |
| 00:54.14 | abrotman | i dont have to .. its not by box :) |
| 00:54.32 | programmer90 | I want to have all my WM's be sessions also |
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| 00:54.54 | lfs | Is there a command that tells you what package a command comes from? |
| 00:55.36 | abrotman | lfs: dpkg -S |
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| 00:56.33 | programmer90 | I wanted to see how much memory usage i have compared to others, not running anything just Gnome and sawfish, its about 65 megs |
| 00:57.19 | brian__ | when im installing debian sarge i get a bunch of broken packages, what should i do? |
| 00:57.20 | Justin | programmer90: if you weren't running "anything |
| 00:57.29 | Justin | programmer90: if you weren't running "anything", you wouldn't have gnome and sawfish running |
| 00:57.39 | programmer90 | Well you know what I mean |
| 00:57.55 | programmer90 | anything besides Gnome and Sawfish and the file manager |
| 00:58.08 | programmer90 | *nothing* i mean |
| 00:58.16 | abrotman | brian__: do it again .. |
| 00:58.35 | brian__ | i hav |
| 00:58.41 | Justin | programmer90: if you weren't running "anything", you wouldn't have gnome and sawfish and the file manager running |
| 00:58.43 | abrotman | anything in particular? |
| 00:58.58 | anonobomber | abrotman, libvorbis0 is the biggie lately |
| 00:59.00 | programmer90 | *besides* all that junk |
| 00:59.16 | abrotman | console-commoon has some issues also |
| 00:59.20 | abrotman | common even |
| 00:59.22 | Justin | programmer90: you're not running init? sshd? |
| 00:59.29 | programmer90 | I must comment on the speed of Debian, its much less bloated than other distros ive tried |
| 00:59.47 | Justin | speed has nothing to do with bloat |
| 00:59.56 | abrotman | Justin: depends |
| 01:00.04 | abrotman | the distro isn't bloated .. but the software can be |
| 01:00.05 | FieldySnuts | !lart Justin |
| 01:00.08 | theturtle | welp, server down :/ |
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| 01:00.09 | programmer90 | Well its much faster and less bloated than RH and mandrake |
| 01:00.11 | abrotman | no frickin way |
| 01:00.11 | Jarjar26 | What is the difference between xfree86 and X11R6 ? |
| 01:00.13 | abrotman | Conan!! |
| 01:00.38 | programmer90 | and i finally got the system set up to my liking |
| 01:00.42 | Justin | Jarjar26: one is a name the other is a version |
| 01:00.48 | FieldySnuts | xfree86 is an implemnentation of a protocol, the name of the protocol is X11R6 (X11 Revision 6) |
| 01:00.51 | abrotman | Jarjar26: you mean x.org? |
| 01:00.54 | green_ears | brian__: chech out the link http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/ and use the MD5SUMS to check |
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| 01:01.15 | programmer90 | I installed a lot of junk using Dselect, programs are everywhere and i keep forgetting where they are |
| 01:01.23 | abrotman | where they are? |
| 01:01.33 | programmer90 | like in the menus |
| 01:01.41 | abrotman | oh |
| 01:01.42 | programmer90 | too many of em |
| 01:01.49 | abrotman | programmer90: did you install menu? |
| 01:01.51 | Jarjar26 | abrotman: yes |
| 01:01.54 | programmer90 | Yes i did |
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| 01:02.04 | AfgBaby | I dont really like the menu bein made for me... its a great reference |
| 01:02.07 | abrotman | Jarjar26: afaik .. licensing/binary stuff |
| 01:02.08 | AfgBaby | but too much junk I dont need |
| 01:02.15 | programmer90 | but theres just a lot of them KDE menus, Debian MMenus and programs |
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| 01:02.28 | element | how can i get my snmpd to respond to something like snmpwalk -v 1 -c public localhost mem .. and give me all the MIB's for mem...right now only the system MIB's work. nothing else...it seems to be a configuration error but I don't know what it could be |
| 01:02.33 | Jarjar26 | Justin: Why both have version : X11R6.7 and xfree86 4.4 |
| 01:02.33 | programmer90 | half of em have the same stuff in em as the others |
| 01:02.40 | programmer90 | i think ill run the Menu Manager |
| 01:02.49 | Jarjar26 | abrotman: it is the same software ? |
| 01:02.57 | abrotman | Jarjar26: mostly .. |
| 01:03.05 | Justin | Jarjar26: X11R6.7 is NOT SOFTWARE |
| 01:03.07 | Jarjar26 | abrotman: but diffrerente |
| 01:03.08 | abrotman | Jarjar26: i think you can ask in #freedesktop and #xfree86 |
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| 01:03.15 | FieldySnuts | again, the first is a protocol, the second is an implimentation of that protocol. |
| 01:03.22 | FieldySnuts | ah screw it i don't like repeating. |
| 01:03.23 | abrotman | Justin: he meant x.org vs xfree.org |
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| 01:03.32 | Jarjar26 | Justin : Yes on web site x.org you could download |
| 01:03.46 | element | anyone? |
| 01:03.54 | Thetan | but it is not packaged. so it is big trouble to compile. |
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| 01:04.10 | FieldySnuts | xfree86 recently moved to a new license, one that conflicts with the GPL. so a fork was made, which means the last version of xfree86 before that license was taken up by another group, renamed, and development continues. that is what x.org is |
| 01:04.27 | programmer90 | I installed aptitude and took one look, what exactly is it? |
| 01:04.30 | Justin | Jarjar26: x.org is software. X11R6.7 is not |
| 01:04.40 | abrotman | programmer90: like dselect .. but easier |
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| 01:04.43 | jbr | programmer90: RTFM |
| 01:04.47 | programmer90 | eh |
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| 01:05.01 | programmer90 | I hate TFM |
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| 01:05.05 | FieldySnuts | and again, X11 is a protocol. google for rfc x11 if you'd like. |
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| 01:05.08 | Jarjar26 | Justin: http://freedesktop.org/~xorg/X11R6.7.0/src/ |
| 01:05.13 | FieldySnuts | programmer90: heh. i wouldn't say that 'round these parts. |
| 01:05.20 | Justin | Jarjar26: x.org is software. X11R6.7 is not |
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| 01:05.29 | Bz | is there a debian release pr sp,etjomg which is really small? just text, nothing fancy? |
| 01:05.29 | Bz | I want to replace a DOS bootdisk which uses Norton Ghost, with Linux and 'dd' |
| 01:05.29 | blake_ | anyone here use nessus? |
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| 01:05.36 | FieldySnuts | xorg calls itself x11r6.7.0? nice way to add to the confusion |
| 01:05.37 | geoaxis | hello ppl |
| 01:05.37 | Justin | !tell blake_ about polls |
| 01:05.49 | abrotman | Bz: try that in english? |
| 01:05.54 | geoaxis | can an AMD processor be partially fried ??? |
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| 01:05.55 | jbr | programmer90: mind you, /usr/share/doc/aptitude/README is better than TFM |
| 01:06.01 | geoaxis | i mean it works but hangs |
| 01:06.01 | FieldySnuts | geoaxis: any processor can |
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| 01:06.09 | Bz | rofl abrotman, gay keyboard. |
| 01:06.10 | abrotman | geoaxis: heat issues usually |
| 01:06.14 | abrotman | !gay |
| 01:06.14 | dpkg | It's OK to fantasize about men and to enjoy anal stimulation. It doesn't mean you're "gay". So stop projecting your insecurities onto others. If you continue acting like a child, expect to be devoiced. |
| 01:06.27 | Bz | is there a release of debian which is really small? a cut down version ? |
| 01:06.29 | Bz | ~5Mb ish |
| 01:06.32 | programmer90 | heh |
| 01:06.32 | FieldySnuts | geoaxis: extreme overheating, bad cpu in the first place, also possibly shitty ram, or maybe even a shitty board. throw memtest86 at it |
| 01:06.32 | proximacnt | Now that it's been revealed to us that linus didn't invent linux, what should we call our operating system? |
| 01:06.39 | element | anyone on my question above? |
| 01:06.41 | geoaxis | how can i be sure that my proceesoor is not fried |
| 01:06.42 | abrotman | Bz: theres a debian boot cd |
| 01:06.42 | FieldySnuts | !troll proximacnt |
| 01:06.47 | geoaxis | is there a method to check it |
| 01:06.49 | Jarjar26 | Justin, you could download x11R6.7 and xfree864.3 ... |
| 01:06.58 | blake_ | anyone use NESSUS???? |
| 01:06.59 | abrotman | geoaxis: get some heat gel .. heatsink .. stuff to make it cool |
| 01:07.03 | programmer90 | I installed some package that allowed you to burn your system to a bottable CD |
| 01:07.04 | FieldySnuts | blake_: stop yelling at us |
| 01:07.05 | Justin | Jarjar26: no, you can download x.org and xfree86 4.3 |
| 01:07.06 | geoaxis | tried that |
| 01:07.09 | abrotman | or get some software to check the temp .. linux has it .. also windows |
| 01:07.09 | theturtle | abrotman- still beta, server toast :) |
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| 01:07.18 | abrotman | theturtle: no workie? |
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| 01:07.20 | sussudio | FieldySnuts: xo xo xo xo xo xo -D -D xo xo xo xo xo xo ~o ~o |
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| 01:07.22 | FieldySnuts | geoaxis: if you can rule out it's not ram, not your motherboard, not other factors, then you can narrow it down. |
| 01:07.25 | FieldySnuts | sussudio: nenenene |
| 01:07.27 | proximacnt | I'm not a troll |
| 01:07.28 | azazello | How does one change the keyboard map to a custom one? |
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| 01:07.31 | theturtle | not coming back up from reboot |
| 01:07.35 | FieldySnuts | proximacnt: yes you are. |
| 01:07.37 | geoaxis | abrotman : tried that for 2 days now |
| 01:07.43 | proximacnt | Why? |
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| 01:07.48 | abrotman | geoaxis: huh? |
| 01:08.04 | blake_ | abrotman: u heard of Zero-Install? |
| 01:08.11 | abrotman | just zeroconf |
| 01:08.13 | FieldySnuts | proximacnt: the group that came out with that study is backed my microsoft. just one of a long line of "independant" studies that were proven not-independant (i.e. funded by microsoft) |
| 01:08.19 | geoaxis | abrotman : for last 2 days i have been cleaning and putting heatsink back with artic silver thermal compund |
| 01:08.28 | abrotman | geoaxis: it randomly reboots? |
| 01:08.33 | geoaxis | i got it working last time about 6 months ago |
| 01:08.34 | proximacnt | thanks for the update, professor |
| 01:08.35 | FieldySnuts | http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20040517002423242 |
| 01:08.35 | geoaxis | yes |
| 01:08.41 | abrotman | geoaxis: reboot or halt? |
| 01:08.45 | geoaxis | both |
| 01:08.51 | abrotman | !memtest |
| 01:08.51 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, memtest is http://www.memtest86.com/ . Also check out http://rick.vanrein.org/linux/badram/ |
| 01:08.57 | sussudio | !badgers |
| 01:08.57 | dpkg | http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/21/. See also, http://bash.org/?241729/. |
| 01:09.01 | abrotman | or check the cpu .. for real :) |
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| 01:09.08 | geoaxis | yeah |
| 01:09.11 | geoaxis | there is a way |
| 01:09.14 | abrotman | but it could be bad ram |
| 01:09.16 | FieldySnuts | well i said twice how to figure it out, enjoy figuring it out on yer own. |
| 01:09.27 | abrotman | geoaxis: also .. like i said .. check the temp . dunno what the range is for amd |
| 01:09.28 | FieldySnuts | !badgersmite sussudio |
| 01:09.32 | geoaxis | i dont think its ram |
| 01:09.37 | programmer90 | heh i found it funny once i had a friend who kept trying to play games, very hardware intensive with a new Gfx card, cant remember what it was, but it had no heatsink, well you can imaginge what happe ed, it was hgillarious to watch him get mad |
| 01:09.48 | FieldySnuts | geoaxis: you have to know. again, run memtest86 on the system overnight, or at least for a few hours. |
| 01:09.52 | geoaxis | i have to run the cpu on more than 1.85 volts to boot |
| 01:09.59 | sussudio | programmer90: s3 card? |
| 01:10.04 | FieldySnuts | ViRGE? |
| 01:10.05 | abrotman | sussudio: heh |
| 01:10.14 | abrotman | revolutino #9 |
| 01:10.24 | FieldySnuts | !lame S3 |
| 01:10.24 | dpkg | Ugh, S3's aura of lame is affecting me! |
| 01:10.30 | abrotman | !s3 |
| 01:10.30 | dpkg | [s3] shit, shower, shave. The Morning Ritual |
| 01:10.33 | FieldySnuts | heh |
| 01:10.36 | abrotman | pretty much |
| 01:10.42 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: start a gpu war |
| 01:10.42 | dpkg | ATI kicks nVidia's ass, you hoser! |
| 01:10.52 | programmer90 | Well it was a pentium 4 3.0 and he didnt add a heatsink to the processor the card was the Radeon XT something |
| 01:11.03 | sussudio | umm... the processor? |
| 01:11.04 | FieldySnuts | smart |
| 01:11.17 | programmer90 | lol thats why it was so funny |
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| 01:11.27 | FieldySnuts | "It's good when you are opposed by Larry and Moe. How dumb do you need to be to attack Linus Torvalds? As I've said before, it's like kicking Dorothy's little dog, Toto. All you get for your trouble is a lot of really offended folks who seriously dislike you and all your supporters." |
| 01:11.28 | sussudio | don't you get a fucking fan with a P4? |
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| 01:11.31 | FieldySnuts | heh. nice quote |
| 01:11.33 | programmer90 | i didnt say anything while he screwed up his syetm slowlly |
| 01:11.48 | programmer90 | You do, but he never built a computer before |
| 01:11.55 | programmer90 | and he just was confused |
| 01:12.02 | sussudio | s/confused/fucktard/ |
| 01:12.02 | FieldySnuts | learning the hard way heh :P |
| 01:12.08 | proximacnt | Yeah, and then people start violently reacting to jokes |
| 01:12.19 | programmer90 | heh |
| 01:12.26 | sussudio | programmer90: that's why they make laptops, mostly for stupid people so they can't fuck with it that much. |
| 01:12.38 | theturtle | YES!! |
| 01:12.42 | theturtle | it's up :) |
| 01:12.51 | abrotman | theturtle: viagra? |
| 01:13.06 | Gnuman | cialis |
| 01:13.11 | theturtle | had em reboot it at the datacenter, working fine now |
| 01:13.14 | gridbug | Hmmm. Maybe its related to my spam filter issue. :P |
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| 01:13.50 | gridbug | abrotman: And its spelled "vag1ra". |
| 01:13.56 | abrotman | gridbug: my bad |
| 01:14.09 | gridbug | abrotman: :) |
| 01:14.37 | Bz | anyone recommend a real small linux distribution? ~5Mb |
| 01:14.43 | mickeyks | does the 2.4 kernel have a problem with linking to binutils? |
| 01:15.06 | mickeyks | i'm getting a binutils install warning msg that some older kernels may have trouble linking to it...but it doesn't say how old |
| 01:15.15 | Gnuman | Bz, I suspect you have already looked at tinylinux? |
| 01:15.15 | mickeyks | i don't know if i need to edit my linker script or not |
| 01:15.31 | FieldySnuts | haha, funny read http://www.linuxworld.com/story/44851.htm |
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| 01:17.09 | Id_Thamatos | hey guys, i have done lots of Google'ing and I've found no solutio yet: the famous kernel panic uim 2.6.X |
| 01:17.26 | Id_Thamatos | ANyone has a clue: VFS classic problem... |
| 01:17.47 | mentor | Id_Thamatos: Using an initrd? |
| 01:17.49 | proximacnt | Has anyone running 2.6 seen a bunch of -115 errors from the usblp module when printing? Sometimes I'll get that on a print job, and the entire job will be reprinted continuously (by cups) |
| 01:17.58 | holycow | hey, how many k/sec dl rate is a 5mbit line? |
| 01:18.00 | Id_Thamatos | nope.... |
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| 01:18.18 | AfgBaby | holycow, you won't know till you test it |
| 01:18.28 | holycow | ehe, *nod* |
| 01:18.44 | Id_Thamatos | Just went debian way and dpkg -i. But I always get VFS: cannot open Device... |
| 01:18.48 | AfgBaby | holycow, yoy may be able 2 calculate a theoretical number but it might not always be close due to whatever factors |
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| 01:18.57 | Id_Thamatos | The kernel compiled OK. |
| 01:19.15 | holycow | is it a straight divide by 10? |
| 01:19.16 | Id_Thamatos | Lilo seems to call it, but it panics always. |
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| 01:19.27 | AfgBaby | holycow, not that I recall |
| 01:19.53 | AfgBaby | holycow, I forget how you're supposed 2 calc it |
| 01:19.53 | holycow | k. thx |
| 01:19.58 | sussudio | FieldySnuts: did you read about that German couple that were waiting to get a baby but didn't actually have sex? |
| 01:20.02 | holycow | np, was just curious |
| 01:20.18 | Id_Thamatos | I have tried tons of things in foruns, but any works... |
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| 01:20.46 | Id_Thamatos | I am sure someone here had the same problem. Any sugestions? |
| 01:20.47 | Gnuman | holycow, I usually call it about 500K/sec. . . |
| 01:20.50 | Id_Thamatos | Please? |
| 01:20.58 | mickeyks | what is the pkgconfig package in woody called? |
| 01:21.06 | dreiss | holycow: 5 mbit = 5 * 1024 kbit = 5 * 1024 / 8 kB. |
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| 01:22.27 | Id_Thamatos | I have actually tried to use a downloaded image. Still same thing... |
| 01:22.32 | Id_Thamatos | Help!!! |
| 01:22.32 | mickeyks | er, got it |
| 01:22.34 | holycow | k, cool! |
| 01:22.35 | holycow | thx ;) |
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| 01:23.20 | FieldySnuts | !badger Id_Thamatos |
| 01:23.21 | dpkg | Id_Thamatos: BadgerBadgerBadgerBadgerBadgerBadgerMushroomMUSHROOMBadgerBadgerBadgerBadgerSnaaaaaaaaakkeeeASnaaaaake |
| 01:24.00 | Id_Thamatos | c'mon... I need some sleep here. Can't till I fix this. |
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| 01:24.13 | AfgBaby | geez how many commands does dpkg (the bot) have? |
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| 01:24.20 | Justin | dpkg: status |
| 01:24.20 | dpkg | Since Wed May 12 03:47:08 2004, there have been 101 modifications, 2267 questions, 558 dunnos, 10 morons and 967 commands. I have been awake for 5d 21h 37m 12s this session, and currently reference 23468 factoids. I'm using about 17332 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 897.99/50.08 child 1047.66/65.82 |
| 01:24.20 | FieldySnuts | who knows |
| 01:24.26 | FieldySnuts | or that |
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| 01:24.33 | AfgBaby | heh |
| 01:24.45 | donpaolo | Hi all! I'm installing ltsp on a box that has a firewall. What ports and with what protocols shall I open in order ltsp to work? thank you! |
| 01:25.09 | abrotman | #ltsp ? |
| 01:25.26 | FieldySnuts | tcp and udp 67 and 69 for tftp and dhcp. and I'll stop there coz abrotman is right. |
| 01:25.51 | peterS | FieldySnuts: dhcp uses tcp or udp? weird. how can it do that if the client doesn't have an IP address yet? |
| 01:25.58 | Gnuman | OK, should smoke come out of the back of the computer during a dist-upgrade? |
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| 01:26.02 | Gnuman | <G> |
| 01:26.09 | FieldySnuts | tftp uses some goofy combination of it all, i forget. |
| 01:26.10 | Id_Thamatos | Have anyone here actually DID boot 2.6.3 in woody??? |
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| 01:26.29 | element | how can i get my snmpd to respond to something like snmpwalk -v 1 -c public localhost mem .. and give me all the MIB's for mem...right now only the system MIB's work. nothing else...it seems to be a configuration error but I don't know what it could be |
| 01:26.50 | FieldySnuts | not using snmpwalk right. |
| 01:27.01 | sussudio | hmm thieves steal 4 guitars belonging to Creed. i think they were trying to do the world a favour. |
| 01:27.06 | peterS | FieldySnuts: tftp uses UDP. I'm wondering about DHCP, though |
| 01:27.06 | FieldySnuts | haha |
| 01:27.18 | FieldySnuts | peterS: i know what I"m talking about, you don't. go away. |
| 01:27.38 | Id_Thamatos | Anyone using kernel 2.6.3 right now? |
| 01:27.39 | sbk | peterS: the first bits of the dhcp interaction basically work on a broadcast address |
| 01:27.40 | theturtle | stupid colo company, how long does it take to reboot a server |
| 01:27.43 | sussudio | now if only someone could steal Good Charlotte's singers and make them conveniently disappear into an industrial meatgrinder... |
| 01:27.45 | peterS | FieldySnuts: I asked how dhcp could use TCP or UDP if the client didn't have an IP address yet. are you saying you can't think of a good answer? |
| 01:27.56 | FieldySnuts | theturtle: depends who has a clue, if anybody |
| 01:27.56 | Guerin | sussudio: right with you there, buddy |
| 01:28.25 | Justin | peterS: broadcast packets with a src of 0.0.0.0 |
| 01:28.26 | peterS | sbk: yeah but if it's using UDP, what IP address does the server send a reply to? |
| 01:28.27 | Guerin | sussudio: but the world would still have to deal with linkin park... |
| 01:28.36 | FieldySnuts | :( |
| 01:28.41 | peterS | Justin: that's fine for client -> server, but can server -> client use UDP? |
| 01:28.58 | Id_Thamatos | really need this kernel 2.6.3 working. Anyone with 2.6 working at all??? |
| 01:29.05 | FieldySnuts | lots of people |
| 01:29.06 | sussudio | Guerin: it's time for them to stop the faux whining and kill themselves already |
| 01:29.07 | FieldySnuts | !ep |
| 01:29.08 | dpkg | Stop!!! Using!!!! So!!!!! Much!!!!! Punctuation!!!!!!!!!!! It's ..... Irritating ..... As ..... All .... Hell!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 01:29.09 | sbk | peterS: both directions, broadcast packets |
| 01:29.10 | AfgBaby | Ive had 2.6 workin for a long time |
| 01:29.11 | Infohawk | Is there a special gui mplayer package or is mplayer-arch it? |
| 01:29.11 | Gnuman | yes, several times. . . |
| 01:29.12 | Justin | the replies are broadcast too or something |
| 01:29.24 | peterS | sbk: so the server broadcasts back to the client? weird, but I guess it would work |
| 01:29.35 | FieldySnuts | sussudio: or make sure U2 gets a two metric ton weight dropped on them |
| 01:29.43 | Id_Thamatos | how did you get this thing to boot??? |
| 01:29.43 | AfgBaby | Id_Thamatos, I was using 2.6 under gentoo for a while w/ love-sources and Ive used 2.6.5 and 2.6.6 in debian |
| 01:29.48 | sussudio | FieldySnuts: it'll just bounce off Bono's ego. |
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| 01:29.56 | FieldySnuts | god damn it lay off the excessive ?'s and !'s |
| 01:30.01 | Gnuman | Id_Thamatos, what problem are you having with 2.6? |
| 01:30.03 | AfgBaby | you compile, setup lilo and you're pretty much done |
| 01:30.09 | sbk | peterS: if you're curious, you can do what I sometimes do for laughs, watch ethereal output while a dhcp session goes on |
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| 01:30.11 | AfgBaby | maybe you're not configuring it right |
| 01:30.19 | Id_Thamatos | Just do not start.... kernel panic. |
| 01:30.20 | peterS | sbk: yeah, there's always that (: |
| 01:30.27 | jbr | Id_Thamatos: On sarge/sid? |
| 01:30.41 | AfgBaby | after you select in lilo? |
| 01:30.43 | Id_Thamatos | never hapened w others (woody) |
| 01:30.52 | Id_Thamatos | yep.;... everything... |
| 01:31.00 | jbr | Id_Thamatos: do you have module-init-tools? |
| 01:31.10 | Id_Thamatos | yep |
| 01:31.11 | Gnuman | did you install module-init-tools? |
| 01:31.11 | AfgBaby | did you d/l the kernel from kernel.org or use debians? |
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| 01:31.19 | jbr | Id_Thamatos: dunno then |
| 01:31.24 | Id_Thamatos | debians... |
| 01:31.39 | Id_Thamatos | compiled 2.6.3 and used images.... nome works. |
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| 01:31.51 | AfgBaby | I havent used theirs... all I can tell ya is it works for me d/l the kernel from kernel.org and compiling w/ kernel-package |
| 01:31.52 | Id_Thamatos | problems in vfs: cannot open root device |
| 01:31.54 | Gnuman | I have not used debians, I always get it from kernel.org |
| 01:31.58 | Kvedulv | hi |
| 01:32.14 | Gnuman | what kind of root device do uyou have? |
| 01:32.16 | AfgBaby | Id_Thamatos, 2.6.3 is a little old now |
| 01:32.18 | Guerin | sussudio: damn straight ... even if I am lagging |
| 01:32.34 | Id_Thamatos | Any 2.3.X would do... |
| 01:32.49 | Gnuman | Id_Thamatos, what is your root device? |
| 01:32.50 | AfgBaby | eh? |
| 01:33.01 | abrotman | !bunk 2.6 |
| 01:33.02 | dpkg | from memory, bunk 2.6 is http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/packages/woody/kernel-26.html |
| 01:33.08 | Id_Thamatos | IDE....0x80.../dev/hdc4 |
| 01:33.13 | blake_ | when I try to su into root I get this error, 'configuration error - unknown item 'CLOSE_SESSIONS' (notify administrator)' anyone get this before? |
| 01:33.40 | debian | blake_: what distro? |
| 01:33.49 | blake_ | fluxbox |
| 01:34.01 | Gnuman | and you have your IDE host configured in the kernel? built in? |
| 01:34.11 | debian | blake_: /exec -o cat /etc/debian_version |
| 01:34.14 | Id_Thamatos | Yep... built-in |
| 01:34.42 | blake_ | that didn't work |
| 01:34.48 | Gnuman | do you have an initrd set up? |
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| 01:35.10 | Gnuman | is that selected in the config and there is none? |
| 01:35.13 | blake_ | debian: that didn't work |
| 01:35.28 | Id_Thamatos | no |
| 01:35.39 | Id_Thamatos | is it necessary for ext2? |
| 01:35.39 | debian | blake_: do it HERE |
| 01:35.44 | blake_ | oh |
| 01:35.45 | abrotman | debian: its O not o isn't it? |
| 01:35.47 | blake_ | testing/unstable |
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| 01:36.08 | abrotman | guess not |
| 01:36.09 | nz | hey what package has kttsd ? i cant find it on debian package search |
| 01:36.14 | abrotman | Shay: line 1: /etc/debian_version: Permission denied |
| 01:36.16 | Gnuman | do you have the ext2 fs built in as well? |
| 01:36.18 | debian | blake_: do you run fluxbox as user? |
| 01:36.24 | abrotman | uhmn .. ok |
| 01:36.32 | peterS | nz: possibly none, then. what does kttsd do? |
| 01:36.34 | blake_ | debian: yea |
| 01:36.35 | Id_Thamatos | yes... |
| 01:36.43 | mickeyks | i'm having trouble figuring out what woody package is gtk+ 2.0 |
| 01:36.44 | abrotman | !hit me |
| 01:37.00 | nz | peterS, its the kde speach synthesis service |
| 01:37.04 | Gnuman | is your root fs ext2, or something else? |
| 01:37.13 | Id_Thamatos | ext2 |
| 01:37.13 | debian | blake_: it might be something to do with the .bashrc or .bash_profile |
| 01:37.16 | blake_ | that felt good |
| 01:37.26 | debian | blake_: vi them to see if it runs anything |
| 01:37.39 | debian | abrotman: ? |
| 01:37.53 | blake_ | debian: vi? |
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| 01:38.01 | holycow | what is the command to tell apt to hold a package (console-common seems to be borked) - my cheat sheet is at work |
| 01:38.17 | abrotman | it is borked |
| 01:38.18 | debian | blake_: you don't know vi? |
| 01:38.20 | jbr | blake_: "pager" would do |
| 01:38.21 | Gnuman | hmmmm, if your device is built into the kernel, and your root fs is built in, I don't know |
| 01:38.23 | abrotman | !hold |
| 01:38.23 | dpkg | from memory, hold is a status flag to tell apt not to automatically upgrade a package. apt will place packages on hold if they require packages that are not currently installable; you can 'apt-get install pkgname' to explicitly install the package. To put a package on hold, 'echo pkgname hold | dpkg --set-selections' or use the '=' key on the package in dselect, or 'echo pkgname install | dpkg --set-selections' to remove the hold |
| 01:38.25 | Justin | holycow: did you leave google at work too? |
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| 01:38.45 | Hydroxide | holycow, abrotman: the version from unstable works fine with an otherwise-testing installation last time I checked |
| 01:38.57 | Hydroxide | holycow, abrotman: (talking about console-common here) |
| 01:38.57 | holycow | thx abrotman, google didn't reveal proper syntax, although it came close |
| 01:38.59 | abrotman | Hydroxide: it hasn't reached sarge yet |
| 01:39.09 | abrotman | i saw in the changelog it was fixed |
| 01:39.12 | Hydroxide | abrotman: I know, but if you download it specially and install it it'll work |
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| 01:39.25 | blake_ | debian: oh the editor |
| 01:39.30 | Hydroxide | abrotman: and then you won't have to remember to unhold it later |
| 01:39.32 | blake_ | debian: I use nano |
| 01:39.35 | abrotman | now i wait for X to be fixed .... |
| 01:39.37 | Hydroxide | abrotman: since it's a newer version than what's in sarge |
| 01:39.40 | Hydroxide | heh |
| 01:39.40 | holycow | Hydroxide, testing here didn't work the other day, maybe it got fixed |
| 01:39.45 | FieldySnuts | ~analintrude SCO |
| 01:39.47 | sussudio | !tell blindfisk about away |
| 01:39.47 | debian | blake_: whatever you use, just take a look at them |
| 01:39.49 | Gnuman | Id_Thamatos, personally, I would recheck the .config, myself |
| 01:39.52 | faxo | !find phpmodule for apache |
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| 01:39.58 | FieldySnuts | bleh |
| 01:39.58 | blake_ | debian: k, what should IO look for? |
| 01:39.59 | faxo | !find phpmod-apache |
| 01:40.01 | Hydroxide | holycow: that's what I'm saying. the version from unstable does work, however, even when installed on a testing machine |
| 01:40.05 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: install clue into faxo |
| 01:40.05 | dpkg | FieldySnuts: are you smoking crack? |
| 01:40.08 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'phpmodule for apache' returned no results. |
| 01:40.09 | debian | blake_: something that it runs |
| 01:40.10 | holycow | ah! k. :) danke |
| 01:40.10 | Id_Thamatos | for what, ecxactly? |
| 01:40.12 | FieldySnuts | !cluebat faxo |
| 01:40.13 | debian | brb |
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| 01:40.19 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'phpmod-apache' returned no results. |
| 01:40.30 | eth1 | hi |
| 01:40.30 | faxo | lol |
| 01:40.38 | sussudio | ifdown eth1 |
| 01:40.41 | faxo | thx FieldySnuts |
| 01:40.50 | Hydroxide | faxo: the php module for apache is just called 'php4' |
| 01:40.57 | mickeyks | what does -dbg at the end of a file indicate |
| 01:40.57 | FieldySnuts | dpkg -i clue |
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| 01:41.00 | FieldySnuts | bah |
| 01:41.10 | Infohawk | Do users have to be a member of the disk group to play dvds in debian? |
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| 01:41.32 | holycow | oh i see, the echo hold works a bit different from what i remember, v cool. thx |
| 01:41.33 | Justin | Infohawk: no one should ever be a memeber of the disk group |
| 01:41.52 | Gnuman | Id_Thamatos, check the settings for ATAPI, and for the root fs (also look for an initrd) |
| 01:41.58 | Infohawk | Justin, oh. Thanks. Then how do I remove a user from the disk group. :P |
| 01:42.16 | blake_ | debian: it says nothin about any program\ |
| 01:42.17 | g4lt | Infohawk vigr |
| 01:42.35 | blake_ | debian: and the thing is I can't log in as root either to try to fix it |
| 01:42.37 | Id_Thamatos | thanx... rebooting to see if somethins I did change at all... |
| 01:42.46 | Infohawk | g4lt, thanks |
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| 01:43.49 | tesths | hi |
| 01:43.50 | blake_ | ^^dave^^: croepha? |
| 01:43.54 | tesths | I have a probleme with fetchmail |
| 01:44.00 | Id_Thamatos | did not work. going to recompile with a kernel.org version... |
| 01:44.01 | ^^dave^^ | Blake: no |
| 01:44.07 | tesths | it keeps flooding my syslog file with awakened/sleeping entry... any hints? |
| 01:44.09 | blake_ | ^^dave^^: k |
| 01:44.16 | tesths | or to increase the retrieval interval on the pop3 server? |
| 01:44.18 | Infohawk | I'm having problems running dvds in totem. I get the error message : the movie /dev/hdc could not be read |
| 01:44.19 | Id_Thamatos | damn! Deb images used to be the best... |
| 01:44.30 | Gnuman | Id_Thamatos, OK, keep us up to date. . . |
| 01:44.48 | Justin | Infohawk: tell totem to play a dvd, not open /dev/hdc.. |
| 01:44.52 | Gnuman | I'll be compiling 2.6.6 from Debian in a bit |
| 01:44.52 | Id_Thamatos | need some sleep here. thanx guys. |
| 01:45.03 | holycow | Hydroxide, heh, well lookee, you were right, thanks dude :) |
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| 01:45.03 | abrotman | Id_Thamatos: you sure you didn't forget the initrd option for lilo? |
| 01:45.12 | argonel | hiyas |
| 01:45.12 | Id_Thamatos | initrd? for what? |
| 01:45.13 | Infohawk | Justin, that's what happens when I go to Movie and select play DVD. |
| 01:45.25 | abrotman | debian kernel images use initrd |
| 01:45.26 | blake_ | abrotman: why can't I log in as root? |
| 01:45.28 | Justin | Infohawk: ah then, make sure /dev/hdc is in the cdrom group and not the disk group |
| 01:45.33 | abrotman | if you dont tell lilo to do that .. its never going to work |
| 01:45.38 | blake_ | abrotman: it tells me Incorrect Login |
| 01:45.47 | abrotman | blake_: nfc ...s orry |
| 01:45.48 | Id_Thamatos | abrotman: lemme see here. |
| 01:45.51 | ^^dave^^ | i'm having a sound problem....when I try to play mp3s in rhythmbox it tells me that it can't open /dev/dsp -- xmms will load mp3s but won't play them; no error just won't play. |
| 01:45.58 | Guerin | Id_Thamatos: did you not read the huge spiel that dpkg gave you when you installed the kernel image? |
| 01:46.12 | abrotman | Id_Thamatos: im assuming oyu're using lilo .. i dont remember how grub does it |
| 01:46.32 | Id_Thamatos | done that all thay... cant remember.... Yep... lilo |
| 01:46.35 | Gnuman | Oh, this is an *image* and not a compiled kernel? |
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| 01:46.43 | Id_Thamatos | compiled |
| 01:46.48 | abrotman | Id_Thamatos: /j #flood ... /exec -o cat /etc/lilo.conf |
| 01:46.50 | Id_Thamatos | tried debs too... |
| 01:46.57 | Infohawk | Justin, do I have to re-login to make that group change effective? |
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| 01:47.05 | faxo | Hydroxide, ohhh ok |
| 01:47.07 | obake | i have just felt |
| 01:47.07 | abrotman | Id_Thamatos: is the current one a debian one? |
| 01:47.11 | obake | nothing |
| 01:47.17 | faxo | Hydroxide, apt-get install php4 then |
| 01:47.17 | Guerin | ^^dave^^: does it play any visualisations, or count through the track? |
| 01:47.22 | ^^dave^^ | no |
| 01:47.23 | tesths | oki |
| 01:47.25 | tesths | found the answer |
| 01:47.26 | Id_Thamatos | yes |
| 01:47.27 | tesths | see you |
| 01:47.28 | ^^dave^^ | i'm getting sounds in gnome though |
| 01:47.39 | abrotman | Id_Thamatos: paste your lilo.conf in #flood |
| 01:47.42 | Id_Thamatos | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:47.43 | Gnuman | OK, you have to make the initrd then |
| 01:47.52 | Id_Thamatos | why so? |
| 01:47.57 | abrotman | you dont have to make it ... |
| 01:48.00 | abrotman | you have to tell lilo to do it |
| 01:48.02 | Guerin | ^^dave^^: sounds like something to do with esd |
| 01:48.06 | Gnuman | Ahhh |
| 01:48.09 | Gnuman | KK |
| 01:48.10 | Justin | Infohawk: no |
| 01:48.12 | Infohawk | How do I know if my cdrom is on hdb or hdc? |
| 01:48.21 | abrotman | Gnuman: no extra k please |
| 01:48.29 | Gnuman | sorry |
| 01:48.32 | abrotman | :) |
| 01:48.35 | Infohawk | Justin, same problem. :/ |
| 01:48.38 | abrotman | Infohawk: dmesg |
| 01:48.39 | Id_Thamatos | how to do that? in it not for raiserfs? |
| 01:48.44 | ^^dave^^ | Guerin: what's esd? |
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| 01:48.47 | Justin | Infohawk: are you in the cdrom group? |
| 01:48.52 | abrotman | Id_Thamatos: paste your lilo.conf in #flood |
| 01:49.12 | Guerin | ^^dave^^: a sound server, which monopolises /dev/dsp - it's used in gnome |
| 01:49.29 | Id_Thamatos | #flood cat /ect/lilo.conf |
| 01:49.34 | mickeyks | in which script should i add changes to the path environment variable that are suggested by ./configure ? |
| 01:49.40 | Id_Thamatos | one moment |
| 01:49.45 | ^^dave^^ | sounds worked fine before a recent apt-get upgrade -- I had both gnome sounds and xmms working. |
| 01:49.49 | Guerin | ^^dave^^: what DE are you using now, that you can't play anything? |
| 01:49.55 | Infohawk | Justin, no. I'll add myself |
| 01:49.57 | ^^dave^^ | gnome 2.4 |
| 01:50.08 | relbs | I'm going to ask some naive sound questions |
| 01:50.24 | ^^dave^^ | relbs: you and me both :) |
| 01:50.38 | Guerin | ^^dave^^: ok, try setting the output plugin in xmms to ESD ... if there is such an option |
| 01:50.51 | Id_Thamatos | right |
| 01:50.54 | Id_Thamatos | # /etc/lilo.conf - See: `lilo(8)' and `lilo.conf(5)', |
| 01:50.55 | Id_Thamatos | # --------------- `install-mbr(8)', `/usr/share/doc/lilo/', |
| 01:50.55 | Id_Thamatos | # and `/usr/share/doc/mbr/'. |
| 01:50.55 | Id_Thamatos | # +---------------------------------------------------------------+ |
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| 01:50.59 | FieldySnuts | idiot |
| 01:51.03 | abrotman | i tried |
| 01:51.06 | FieldySnuts | give up. |
| 01:51.08 | Guerin | for fuck's sake |
| 01:51.11 | FieldySnuts | waste of time. |
| 01:51.14 | abrotman | !ffs |
| 01:51.14 | dpkg | somebody said ffs was for fuck's sake, or for fine's sake. UCB's Fast File System, or for fearl's sake, or forgetfearl syndrome, or for Fooz' sake |
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| 01:51.30 | abrotman | Id_Thamatos: type "/j #flood" |
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| 01:51.45 | FieldySnuts | when people try to help and you can't follow instructions, the people helping tend to (rightfully) get pissed. |
| 01:51.52 | HotDog | hey? What's best between mailscanner and spam assassin? |
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| 01:52.06 | Guerin | HotDog: for spam detection? SA |
| 01:52.16 | FieldySnuts | mailscanner lets you backend to antivirus tools, spamassassin is for catching spam. different purposes, as far as I know |
| 01:52.29 | relbs | I understand that ALSA and OSS are totally different projects that are meant to manage sound in linux. I installed debian sarge and sound "works", but is it using alsa or oss, and how do I tell? As far as I'm concerned, sound works when the proper kernel modules are loaded and that's the end of the story. is there more to it than that? |
| 01:52.46 | HotDog | FieldySnuts : and not spam assassin? it can't detect virus? |
| 01:52.57 | FieldySnuts | that's not it's job |
| 01:53.03 | Guerin | HotDog: is it called SpamAndVirusAssassin? |
| 01:53.04 | FieldySnuts | or purpose |
| 01:53.07 | HotDog | but mailscanner does both? |
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| 01:53.16 | FieldySnuts | no, i didn't say that, and i'm not in the mood to repeat |
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| 01:53.21 | FieldySnuts | !moron Id_Thamatos |
| 01:53.22 | dpkg | Id_Thamatos: You are moron #76 |
| 01:53.28 | Guerin | HotDog: no, mailscanner can interface with another app which can scan for viruxen |
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| 01:53.30 | mickeyks | does the output of ./configure save to a log? |
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| 01:53.41 | FieldySnuts | mickeyks: only if you redirect it |
| 01:54.00 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: his client kicked him |
| 01:54.04 | FieldySnuts | such as ./configure --whatever | tee some-log-file.txt (STDOUT + log to that text file) |
| 01:54.13 | FieldySnuts | abrotman: yeah, for pasting too fast. |
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| 01:54.18 | dawoua | hi |
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| 01:54.32 | abrotman | FieldySnuts: ive never had that happen .. i dont know which client does that |
| 01:54.39 | mickeyks | FieldySnuts: oh |
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| 01:54.42 | FieldySnuts | abrotman: because you aren't an idiot. idiouts trigger that. |
| 01:55.06 | FieldySnuts | if i do /exec -o cat /dev/urandom , same thing will happen |
| 01:55.08 | FieldySnuts | (don't do that) |
| 01:55.15 | trista | Hello guys, how do I compltly remove kde? in testing? |
| 01:55.22 | dawoua | which file manager (with ftp,scp..) do you guys are using? |
| 01:55.32 | Fixion | I've been getting some perl locale warnings in the past couple days, it started after I did an 'apt-get upgrade'. What can I do about it? |
| 01:55.32 | Justin | dawoua: zsh |
| 01:55.33 | Guerin | apt-get remove kde-base |
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| 01:55.38 | ^^dave^^ | trista: apt-get remove kde-base --purge |
| 01:55.40 | abrotman | whats that stupid pasting site? |
| 01:55.40 | FieldySnuts | dpkg: start a shell war |
| 01:55.40 | dpkg | pdksh owns osh |
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| 01:55.53 | FieldySnuts | abrotman: heh there's lots, google fer pastebin |
| 01:55.53 | Guerin | abrotman: pastebin.com |
| 01:55.56 | poh | can anyone point me to a program that will factor a 53 decimal digit number pretty quickly? |
| 01:55.56 | dawoua | Justin: i forgot X :) |
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| 01:56.07 | trista | ^^dave^^ I have done that but i still have several k-apps |
| 01:56.29 | Justin | dawoua: xterm -e zsh ? |
| 01:56.38 | mickeyks | how long should gaim take to build on a decent computer? |
| 01:56.45 | Guerin | trista: apt-get remove libqt* |
| 01:56.45 | dawoua | Justin: :) |
| 01:56.46 | ^^dave^^ | trista: which? you can also try apt-get remove kde* --purge |
| 01:56.53 | FieldySnuts | gaim is pretty big, i'd say 8 mins |
| 01:56.58 | mickeyks | or aptitude purge kde |
| 01:57.00 | abrotman | poh: are you serious? |
| 01:57.07 | paxl | Why I'm having weird looking font in mozilla/firefox ?? after dooing a apt-get update/upgrade this morning ?? |
| 01:57.10 | poh | abrotman: yes |
| 01:57.13 | ^^dave^^ | aptitude would probably be better for you |