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| 00:00.04 | NudeNurd | yah yah |
| 00:00.13 | dondelelcaro | NudeNurd: so don't do it. ;-) |
| 00:00.18 | NudeNurd | yah yah |
| 00:00.46 | NudeNurd | security doesn't bother me with this box. You'll love it. Apache running as root, samba running as root... |
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| 00:01.00 | thomas_adam | It amazes me how some people even managed to insert the CD into their drive, let alone install debian.... |
| 00:01.03 | Blake | At least have a firewall. |
| 00:01.07 | naim | pppoe should i install it as a module or build it in kernel ?? plz advise |
| 00:01.12 | sanmarcos | thank you madird |
| 00:01.14 | greycat | 20:10 abydos [~asittler@65.172.150.7] requested unknown CTCP CAN-YOU-PLEASE-WAKE-UP-AND-REMOVE-THE-+Q-BECAUSE-IM-DONE-TROLLING from greycat: |
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| 00:01.16 | NudeNurd | Well honestly, I can't be bothered locking it down, once I'm done with it it won't be connected to anything except the power |
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| 00:01.20 | Sagstuen | I get the errormessage "backend bdb initialization failed" when starting slapd -d 255 |
| 00:01.23 | NudeNurd | I have one here |
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| 00:01.36 | stew | abydos: heh |
| 00:01.41 | d-f-c | what happens when apt-get update quits with: Segmentation faulty Tree... 50% |
| 00:01.55 | thomas_adam | greycat: He's done trolling now -- I'd unban him and then when he _does_ troll, ban him again. ;) |
| 00:01.59 | d-f-c | debian unstable? |
| 00:02.03 | sussudio | greycat: i think he's going for the +b "upgrade" |
| 00:02.15 | Sagstuen | starts oki when configured with LDBM |
| 00:02.34 | greycat | well, I do have to give him cleverness points for working around "ignore MSG" |
| 00:02.35 | stew | is that an explicit admission that he was trolling previously? |
| 00:02.37 | sbetore | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:02.43 | sbetore | greycat: ;) |
| 00:02.44 | thomas_adam | d-f-c: /msg dpkg mmap -- if that does not help, run memtest86 |
| 00:02.45 | sussudio | and now the bastard is /msg'ing me too. |
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| 00:02.57 | greycat | sussudio: what did he say? |
| 00:02.57 | abydos | thank you, greycat. |
| 00:02.59 | d-f-c | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:03.03 | abydos | I highly appreciate it. |
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| 00:03.14 | sussudio | greycat: that he was going for the -q downgrade |
| 00:03.19 | abydos | greycat: As I was saying, I'm done trolling now. |
| 00:03.27 | khafra | Hyp3rion: I just read all the batch files, settings, and file names in the jigdo directory, and didn't see any sources.list |
| 00:03.28 | sbetore | abydos: He did it because we were bored. |
| 00:03.43 | v_2 | does anyone know how to get grip to display track names in a different charset? |
| 00:03.44 | abydos | sbetore: Whatever the reason, I appreciate it. |
| 00:03.50 | sbetore | abydos: "<toresbe> greycat: Unmute him, I'm bored." |
| 00:04.04 | abydos | sbetore: I noticed. |
| 00:04.08 | greycat | sbetore: you inflate your own importance |
| 00:04.18 | sbetore | oh, right. |
| 00:04.21 | Hyp3rion | khafra, /etc/apt/sources.list, nope? |
| 00:04.26 | d-f-c | thomas_adam: i already ran memtest86 |
| 00:04.28 | sbetore | greycat: I like to do that on occasion ;) |
| 00:04.31 | Hyp3rion | khafra, Or i missed something sorry :-/ |
| 00:04.41 | khafra | Oh, sorry--I'm using jigdo lite, from windows |
| 00:04.49 | Hyp3rion | khafra, Yay |
| 00:04.57 | sbetore | It was more of a "haha, I influenced an op's decision in #debian" type thing ;) |
| 00:05.03 | Hyp3rion | khafra, Get the Woody CD1 and install from that IMHO |
| 00:05.04 | sbetore | feel my leetness, greycat ;) |
| 00:05.13 | greycat | I'm not feeling any part of you. |
| 00:05.19 | abydos | greycat: I read dpkg's factoids. |
| 00:05.27 | abydos | greycat: they didn't help with the problem I had. |
| 00:05.30 | khafra | Well, I guess unstable couldn't be any worse than not available :D |
| 00:05.33 | JunK-Y | greycat: i've been transfered at my job. |
| 00:05.39 | d-f-c | noone else is having any problems running apt-get on unstable? |
| 00:05.41 | dreamind | dondelelcaro: hm, I still don't think I can manage this, do you have a small example on how to do this, or better an out of the box working filter? ;)) |
| 00:05.43 | JunK-Y | gonna start developping phone application. |
| 00:05.52 | JunK-Y | so im leaving web department. |
| 00:06.04 | dreamind | dondelelcaro: (well its quite late here and I'm totally tired today ) |
| 00:06.04 | sbetore | greycat: :) |
| 00:06.13 | FieldySnuts | !blaireau sussudio |
| 00:06.13 | dpkg | sussudio: blaireau blaireau blaireau blaireau champignon champignon blaireau blaireau blaireau blaireau blaireau oooh un serpeeeent! |
| 00:06.23 | CueBallVideo | dfc: mine seems to work okay today |
| 00:06.23 | thomas_adam | hehehehe |
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| 00:06.33 | sbetore | HAHAHA |
| 00:06.48 | Hyp3rion | !borz FieldySnuts |
| 00:06.52 | naim | !french |
| 00:06.52 | dpkg | Vous pouvez obtenir de l'aide sur Debian sur le canal #debian-fr - For help in french, please join #debian-fr |
| 00:06.53 | Hyp3rion | khafra, ? |
| 00:06.55 | sbetore | FieldySnuts: Any other languages? |
| 00:07.17 | naim | !arabic |
| 00:07.17 | Hyp3rion | !magyar |
| 00:07.25 | idnar | !dachs sbetore |
| 00:07.25 | dpkg | sbetore: Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Pilz Pilz Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Dachs Schlange! Eine Schlange! |
| 00:07.28 | helix | chill with the bots |
| 00:07.45 | abydos | greycat: the probelm I had with woody is that bf2.4 didn't like my IDE controller, which made it kind of hard to install it. 2.2 worked just fine, but bf2.4 didn't work. Then 2.2 somehow messed up my ethernet card 12 hours after installation, for a still-unsolved reason. |
| 00:07.47 | sussudio | Hyp3rion: mujina masshuru-mu sune-ku |
| 00:08.17 | abydos | That's my sole problem with woody. It now occurs to me that if I'd booted noapic, it might have worked. |
| 00:08.27 | greycat | abydos: what *I* would have done in that situation is install with the working 2.2.20 kernel (pref. vanilla, not idepci), then build whatever the latest 2.2.x or 2.4.x kernel was at that time. |
| 00:08.33 | abydos | Seeing as Knoppix had that problem until I booted noapic. |
| 00:08.38 | greycat | abydos: that's why I had dpkg tell the channel about "kp" |
| 00:08.38 | sbetore | FieldySnuts: I guess the .no would be "grevling grevling grevling grevling sopp sopp grevling grevling grevling grevling grevling åh en slaaaaangeee!" |
| 00:08.39 | abydos | I tried that. |
| 00:08.43 | abydos | No dice. |
| 00:08.47 | abydos | Wouldn't boot it. |
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| 00:09.02 | greycat | abydos: then at that point it's not a Debian problem, since you built your own custom Linux kernel. |
| 00:09.06 | abydos | !tell abydos about kp |
| 00:09.06 | abydos | I missed it. |
| 00:09.09 | stew | abydos: if you have a kernel that worked with distro X then that same kernel would have worked with debian |
| 00:09.11 | Hyp3rion | !magyar is ha magyarul szeretnel segitseget kapni, menj a #debian.hu csatira. bar esetleg itt is talalhatsz magyarul beszeloket. if you need help in hungarian, proceed to #debian.hu (tho you can usually find a number of hungarian speaking people here too). |
| 00:09.11 | dpkg | Hyp3rion: okay |
| 00:09.16 | greycat | abydos: which leaves hardware or Linux as the culprits. |
| 00:09.21 | dondelelcaro | dreamind: http://www.tek-tips.com/gviewthread.cfm/pid/280/qid/722974 |
| 00:09.26 | Hyp3rion | sussudio, japanese? |
| 00:09.46 | abydos | greycat: My point is, when I went back to Slackware 8.1, with a standard 2.4.18 kernel, it worked just fine. |
| 00:09.47 | sbetore | !nihon-jin |
| 00:09.47 | sbetore | !nihon |
| 00:09.52 | sbetore | !japanese |
| 00:09.52 | dpkg | it has been said that japanese is #debian-japanese Turning japanese i think i'm turning japanese i really think so! |
| 00:09.55 | abydos | greycat: And the hardware hadn't changed at all. |
| 00:10.00 | greycat | abydos: then you could have used the slackware 2.4.18 kernel *IN DEBIAN*. |
| 00:10.02 | sussudio | Hyp3rion: hai |
| 00:10.07 | greycat | Linux kernels are not tied to their distros. |
| 00:10.25 | abydos | d'oh. |
| 00:10.28 | abydos | this is a point. |
| 00:11.05 | abydos | I still think it was an option that was turned on in the Debian kernel that caused it, but I'm not going to argue the point with you. |
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| 00:11.30 | dondelelcaro | abydos: *shrug* so compare the .config's. I know Debian's is distributed. I assume slack's is. |
| 00:11.41 | abydos | Considering that it happened on Mandrake 9.0 as well, not just debian's. |
| 00:11.51 | abydos | dondelelcaro: d'oh, why didn't I think of that. |
| 00:11.53 | sbetore | I've got an odd problem with my laptop |
| 00:11.58 | Hyp3rion | sussudio, hai? haiku?! | voros leveltol verzo venyigek | sarga csondbe lazas vallomasok | szavak, langolo, kialto igek! <== The best hungarian haiku ever. |
| 00:12.01 | sbetore | I'm using unstable |
| 00:12.10 | sbetore | and it's been this way for ever. |
| 00:12.20 | sbetore | Hyp3rion: Do translate. |
| 00:12.26 | Hyp3rion | sbetore, Heh |
| 00:12.29 | naim | pppoe :: should i install it as a module or build it in kernel ?? plz advise |
| 00:12.33 | rich_ | abydos I believe the kernel is the most important thing. People should be able to manage their own kernels, and then they can use any distribution they want to. |
| 00:12.42 | Hyp3rion | translating haiku IS A BIT difficult. |
| 00:12.49 | sbetore | One about the Cray-2's coolant liquid |
| 00:12.55 | greycat | there's no way "voros leveltol verzo venyigek" can possibly be 5 syllables. |
| 00:13.03 | abydos | rich_: how does that have to do with the problem I had? |
| 00:13.03 | sbetore | Hyp3rion: Well, translate the words, not the form. |
| 00:13.07 | mrhankey | anyone: I am able to ftp my apache server via LAN (using ws-ftp) but ftp via www fails. Is this problem with ftpd or firewall? |
| 00:13.20 | abydos | rich_: or was that sympathizing. |
| 00:13.41 | abydos | Someone care to export their kernel .config file, or point me to a bf2.4 .config file, somewhere? |
| 00:13.53 | sbetore | "3M's Fluorinert | My colorless odorless gold | This shit's expensive!" or something |
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| 00:14.12 | Hyp3rion | sbetore, I am sure you can find it in english and every other language tho. very famous: Kosztolanyi Dezso= (o with long accents, but just type o) - Okto'beri ta'j (again, just oktobeti taj) |
| 00:14.18 | cafuego | abydos: ls /boot |
| 00:14.20 | naim | abydos, kernel compile takes forever .. ask me |
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| 00:14.45 | abydos | cafuego: I run Gentoo, I just want the .config file. |
| 00:14.53 | sbetore | Hyp3rion: I'm in console. All my other consoles are busy, too. I have no web atm, |
| 00:14.54 | rich_ | abydos No idea, you have just been letting little bits and peices of the "problem" slip oyut, Im just pointing out that kernel problems are not really debian problems and that people who expect their distribution to manage their kernel for them are just like people who expect their irc script to fix their irc client |
| 00:15.10 | cafuego | abydos: This isn't #gentoo. |
| 00:15.14 | debian | Hyp3rion: still here? :) |
| 00:15.17 | abydos | cafuego: I want to compare the debian .config file to the slackware .config file, to see what could cause the slackware one to work while the debian one didn't. |
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| 00:15.44 | cafuego | abydos: get the debian kernel 2.4.18 package, there's a config in there. |
| 00:15.59 | abydos | cafuego: Do you run Debian? |
| 00:16.13 | cafuego | abydos: Yes, I do. |
| 00:16.15 | wols | abydos: get the kernel-image from any debian site. unpack it. voila: a .config file |
| 00:16.16 | abydos | cafuego: Can't you just make the .config file available to me? |
| 00:16.26 | abydos | All I need is .config. |
| 00:16.32 | abydos | I don't want the other baggage with it! |
| 00:16.32 | stew | abydos: it is available to you |
| 00:16.36 | cafuego | abydos: What makes you think i have a 2.4 kernel at all, let alone a precompiled one? |
| 00:16.38 | debian | abydos: he charges hourly. :) |
| 00:17.01 | abydos | cafuego: You have a point. |
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| 00:17.25 | cafuego | you're more than welcome to my custom 2.6.6 config, I just think it'll be useless. |
| 00:17.43 | Hyp3rion | debian, Still? Yup, here "again"... |
| 00:17.46 | abydos | I think it will as well. |
| 00:17.48 | greycat | http://wooledge.org/~greg/config-2.4.18-bf2.4 |
| 00:17.53 | greycat | you're welcome. |
| 00:18.09 | debian | Hyp3rion: breakfast now |
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| 00:18.33 | cafuego | debian: that's a good idea |
| 00:18.38 | rich_ | Actually Im not so sure it would be useless. Kernel compilation and configuration is so darn solid and so mostly backwards comapatable that on the right hardware I bet it would work. |
| 00:18.45 | Hyp3rion | sbetore, :-/ Google found nothing :-( |
| 00:18.47 | abydos | greycat: thank you. |
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| 00:18.59 | Hyp3rion | debian, buon apetitos |
| 00:19.05 | debian | cafuego: don't forget the travelling fee. (from chair to your keyboard :) |
| 00:19.07 | Hyp3rion | debian, now it 2am HERE |
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| 00:19.29 | debian | Hyp3rion: still early. :) |
| 00:19.40 | saminuske | does debian have a dpkg package for PHP 4.3.x? php4 is 4.2 |
| 00:19.47 | greycat | saminuske: packages.debian.org/php4 |
| 00:19.48 | abydos | rich_: My idea is to figure out why the Slackware 2.4.18 kernel worked, while the Debian 2.4.18 kernel didn't. |
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| 00:19.55 | saminuske | greycat: thanks |
| 00:19.56 | Hyp3rion | debian, I won first place in "most hated" in suss's #deb staten! |
| 00:20.00 | Hyp3rion | :-P |
| 00:20.18 | debian | Hyp3rion: suss' link again? |
| 00:20.25 | cafuego | debian: I tend to not bother with travel fees, unless i travel internationally (then it's $500/day plus business class airfares) |
| 00:20.29 | Hyp3rion | http://debstats.dontexist.org/ |
| 00:20.43 | cafuego | !slap Hyp3rion |
| 00:20.55 | Chromakode | Hi all, I was apt-getting webmin-shorewall, when it complained of being unable to connect to one of the ftp.us.debian.org servers. I advises me to apt-get update, so I do. Normally I wouldn't be alarmed by this, but I had just apt-get updated approximately 15 minutes ago, and, sure enough, there was a new packages file for unstable. Is this peculiar or normal? |
| 00:21.12 | Hyp3rion | !offer Hyp3rion a place on a plane to Hawaii |
| 00:21.15 | stew | Chromakode: normal |
| 00:21.18 | Chromakode | I'll go check if the package is found this time |
| 00:21.21 | rich_ | abydos look at the messages that it gives while booting up. The slakware one will tell you about all the modules its loading as it loads them. Thats probably the reason, something that the slakware kernel has compiled in and the debian one does not |
| 00:21.41 | debian | cafuego: honestly, it's quite reasonable for your knowledge level. |
| 00:21.44 | rich_ | abydos Or vice verse |
| 00:21.49 | Chromakode | stew: ok, cool. I've noticed the indexes usually get updated around lunchtime, never seen em change again in a day. |
| 00:21.54 | Chromakode | thanks |
| 00:22.05 | abydos | rich_: I think it's an option related to VIA IDE controllers |
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| 00:22.36 | rich_ | abydos Well If I were you Id just compile a kernel that works on your hardware and use it to install debian |
| 00:22.56 | rich_ | custom kernels solve a lot of problems |
| 00:23.04 | abydos | rich_: Dude. I'm having troubles following your train of thoughts |
| 00:23.04 | cafuego | debian: That's debatable, it's just that I don't particularly like flying and need a bit of an incentive to be BORED for a day or more whilst going somewhere. |
| 00:23.23 | Chromakode | yep, now it finds it |
| 00:23.28 | debian | cafuego: we paid much more plus hotel for a cobal programmer. :) |
| 00:23.32 | thomas_adam | cafuego: drink more redbull -- that gives you wings. |
| 00:23.35 | Chromakode | cool, looks like something b0rked in the repository |
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| 00:23.41 | Chromakode | thanks stew |
| 00:24.05 | cafuego | debian: $500 is *travel* day fee, not work day fee ;-) |
| 00:24.05 | Hyp3rion | a redbull szarnyakat ad! |
| 00:24.34 | debian | cafuego: lol I'm going to write the cheque! :D |
| 00:24.37 | cafuego | thomas_adam: redbull tastes like bubble gum, it's disgusting. |
| 00:24.45 | wols | cafuego: if you travel, you can't do any work. QED (gotta oogle the pretty stewardesses instead) |
| 00:24.49 | thomas_adam | cafuego: I say it tastes like perfume.... |
| 00:25.05 | cafuego | thomas_adam: if you use bubblegum as perfume, sure... |
| 00:25.07 | rich_ | abydos You dont have to install with a debian kernel. Im not sure on the details but Im sure tehres a way to create a boot floppy with any kernel you want. So your first task should be figiure out how to compile a kernel so you know what yours needs |
| 00:25.10 | thomas_adam | cafuego: heh. |
| 00:25.12 | greycat | neither has greycat, and he doesn't intend to start |
| 00:25.12 | debian | wols: pretty stewardesses? hehe, I'll take him to Gulf Air. XD |
| 00:25.24 | greycat | !custom netinst |
| 00:25.24 | dpkg | i heard roll your own iso is http://oregonstate.edu/~kveton/debian/ |
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| 00:25.54 | abydos | rich_: I know that, but I need to know what's different between the slackware 8.1 config file and the Woody bf2.4 config file. |
| 00:25.55 | cafuego | the ONLY two decent energyd rink I ever had werte "Burn" (not available anymore) and "coffee". |
| 00:26.14 | abydos | rich_: This will satisfy my curiosity. |
| 00:26.45 | Hyp3rion | s/of/or/ |
| 00:26.47 | cafuego | debian: stewardesses don't need to be pretty, they need to be *good*. |
| 00:26.57 | wols | cafuego: coffee is only an energy drink in its "espresso" incarnation |
| 00:27.02 | greycat | cafuego: depends on what you plan to do with them. |
| 00:27.03 | thomas_adam | cafuego: Lucozade? |
| 00:27.11 | rich_ | abydos its easy to find the woody one. Its in /boot/ The slakware one, is the important one because that one has the Right settings as opposed to the wrong ones. And I guess someone who uses slakware would know how to find that. |
| 00:27.14 | cafuego | thomas_adam: too much sugar |
| 00:27.21 | cafuego | greycat: muaha! |
| 00:27.25 | thomas_adam | Either way, coffee is my most favourite drink. |
| 00:27.25 | greycat | rich_: he's got the woody one from my web space now |
| 00:27.38 | debian | cafuego: Gulf Air's stewardesses are good. At least they look very strong. :) |
| 00:27.40 | gravity | Now you're making me want tea |
| 00:27.43 | thomas_adam | !seen kawfee |
| 00:27.44 | abydos | rich_: I don't have Woody disks anymore. |
| 00:27.44 | dpkg | thomas_adam: i haven't seen 'kawfee' |
| 00:27.44 | rich_ | greycat I see, thanks |
| 00:28.00 | cafuego | debian: lile the former DDR Airways stewardesses? |
| 00:28.00 | CueBallVideo | I use caffeinated mints instead of coffee. It's far more efficient. |
| 00:28.10 | greycat | rich_: the issue here is that the only way to get those config files is either to install a whole OS, or to extract (therefore, you must first download...) a whole friggin' kernel. They're not sold separately. |
| 00:28.13 | debian | Hyp3rion: I'm drink japanese green tea right now after a mushroom+rice breakfast. Hungry>? :) |
| 00:28.16 | simon | anyone have iptable experience? |
| 00:28.25 | thomas_adam | !anyone |
| 00:28.25 | dpkg | ***anyone: No such nick/channel - and yes, there probably is someone, somewhere, who knows or runs it; that doesn't mean /I/ do. |
| 00:28.26 | cafuego | CueBallVideo: Decently made coffee contains about 10+ times as much caffeine. |
| 00:28.31 | greycat | !tell simon about ask |
| 00:28.32 | thomas_adam | !tell simon about ask |
| 00:28.32 | Hyp3rion | debian, mushroom? hmm... borzok? |
| 00:28.37 | greycat | see also #iptables |
| 00:28.47 | Hyp3rion | debian, mushroom tea? |
| 00:28.48 | debian | cafuego: don't know about DDR, but I'm sure any one of them can take on an armed terrorist hand down. :) |
| 00:28.52 | CueBallVideo | cafuego: Indeed it does. That's why I take ten times as many mints :). |
| 00:28.57 | simon | greycat yah i was there... thanks |
| 00:28.57 | thomas_adam | Earl-grey will do nicely. |
| 00:29.03 | debian | Hyp3rion: I'm not that rich. :) |
| 00:29.09 | thomas_adam | simon: So WTF ask in here then? |
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| 00:29.25 | Hyp3rion | debian, Rich? You can collect it in the forests here :-? |
| 00:29.26 | greycat | thomas_adam: I suppose he asked Debian questions there. |
| 00:29.35 | thomas_adam | We are NOT a sodding general linux support channel -- #linux is for that. This is #debian. |
| 00:29.37 | cafuego | simon: /usr/share/doc/iptables/html |
| 00:29.42 | debian | Hyp3rion: I'm sure it marks up very high here |
| 00:29.50 | simon | thomas_adam everyone was idle of course ;) i figured my pals at #debian would help.... |
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| 00:30.01 | thomas_adam | simon: You figured? _YOU_ figured? |
| 00:30.09 | debian | simon: just ask |
| 00:30.14 | simon | lol |
| 00:30.40 | rich_ | abydos Then you should just focus on compileing a working kernel. There is a large variety of installation kernels, have you looked on www.debian.org ? Maybe one fits your hardware, if not then your going to have to figure it out and its no big deal because sooner or later you probably would have had to do that anyway |
| 00:30.44 | wols | simon: you really should read "how to ask smart questions" |
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| 00:31.05 | thomas_adam | !tell simon about ask |
| 00:31.09 | thomas_adam | !tell simon about smart questions |
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| 00:31.19 | Hyp3rion | Yay poor simon! |
| 00:31.24 | thomas_adam | Just so it sinks in, simon. |
| 00:31.45 | debian | abydos: iirc debian's kernel has patches favoured. Asking here gets you nowhere, better ask in a mailing list |
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| 00:32.00 | thomas_adam | But evem then, simon -- your question is best asked in #iptables. And if that room is idle, you'll just have to wait. |
| 00:32.20 | wols | debian: it's not a vanilla kernel, but IIRC the patches are very minor (except for security fixes) |
| 00:32.30 | Hyp3rion | debian, Heh new business? Psylocybin import to rotX(DB) from hungary :-D |
| 00:32.46 | greycat | uh, ok, drugs are off topic. |
| 00:32.57 | abydos | debian: I've got the config file, and the slack install kernel, and diffed them, and now I'm ging through a rather hard-to-read list of diffs. |
| 00:33.01 | simon | basically this: have a rule dropping tcp packets with SYN,ACK,FIN,RST SYN flags set. have another rule allowing pop3 and smtp traffic through (25 & 110) respectively... mail is shady at best while the rules are up. when the rules are removed mail works like a charm. am i missing something? |
| 00:33.08 | cafuego | greycat: coffee coffee coffee coffee coffee coffee |
| 00:33.10 | stew | badger import to hungary? |
| 00:33.21 | Hyp3rion | stew, No way! |
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| 00:33.36 | debian | abydos: I talk about the patches |
| 00:33.53 | debian | Hyp3rion: hehe |
| 00:34.12 | simon | there's not a data port that smtp or pop3 use is there? |
| 00:34.28 | stew | simon: nope |
| 00:34.30 | abydos | It could be the use of apic. |
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| 00:34.37 | Hyp3rion | simon, Only the ill-designed FTP uses data ports |
| 00:34.41 | abydos | That's probably what it is, in fact. |
| 00:34.42 | thomas_adam | It could even be cosmic rays. |
| 00:35.08 | stew | simon: do you have the pop/smtp rule before the drop rule? |
| 00:35.09 | abydos | In slackware, X86_UP_APIC and X86_UP_IOAPIC are not set. |
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| 00:35.22 | simon | stew: yes |
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| 00:35.31 | Hyp3rion | abydos, http://cgi.cs.wisc.edu/scripts/ballard/bofhserver.pl |
| 00:35.33 | abydos | In debian, those, along with X86_LOCAL_APIC and X86_IO_APIC are set to Y |
| 00:36.09 | simon | mail works for me, but for other users trying to check off network, or send to the box it wont work. sometimes failure notices, sometimes not |
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| 00:36.51 | abydos | I can make the diff available, if anyone wants to point to a more likely cause than APIC. |
| 00:37.12 | greycat | sounds like a good first guess to me. |
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| 00:37.51 | abydos | Considering that's caused problems with Knoppix, I'd lean towards it being a very accurate first guess. |
| 00:38.26 | abydos | Now, if I could get ahold of the Mandrake 9.1 kernel config file without downloading the kernel package. |
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| 00:38.33 | Hyp3rion | simon, For users to be able to receive their mail, you also need an IMAP (or POP3) daemon. |
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| 00:38.40 | wols | abydos: are you on dialup? |
| 00:38.57 | abydos | wols: No, I just don't have much bandwidth to spare. |
| 00:39.00 | abydos | Not to mention disk space. |
| 00:39.19 | wols | a kernel image is just 3-4MB |
| 00:39.27 | greycat | he doesn't want to interrupt his pr0n streams |
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| 00:39.33 | greycat | wols: uh, no, they're huger. |
| 00:39.33 | abydos | Not so. |
| 00:39.47 | abydos | Try 23-30 |
| 00:39.47 | greycat | !info kernel-image-2.4.18-bf2.4 woody |
| 00:39.49 | dpkg | kernel-image-2.4.18-bf2.4: (Linux kernel image for version 2.4.18 (bf variant) on 386.), section base, is optional. Version: 2.4.18-5 (woody), Packaged size: 6269 kB, Installed size: 16024 kB |
| 00:39.56 | greycat | 6 megs for that one |
| 00:40.08 | abydos | That's the source? |
| 00:40.12 | greycat | binary |
| 00:40.17 | abydos | oh. |
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| 00:40.20 | simon | Hyp3rion: *nods* i have qmail and vpopmail setup... but smtp is what should be accepting and sending the messages. if it works without the firewall then something is out of whack with it... |
| 00:40.40 | abydos | I was going to say, 6mb for a 2.4 kernel source tree is a little conservative, I don't care how well it's compressed. |
| 00:40.49 | wols | greycat: I was looking at my kernels which doesn't have everything and the kitchensink built |
| 00:40.50 | Hyp3rion | simon, what firewall? |
| 00:41.06 | greycat | wols: but yours don't have the *Debian* config files, which is what he wants. |
| 00:41.11 | Hyp3rion | simon, Do you use connection tracking? that can simplify thing a lot! |
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| 00:41.24 | greycat | and neither does the Debian source code. You need a Debian kernel binary to get its config file. |
| 00:41.37 | simon | the one i'm running locally... i have basic rules to drop all tcp packets with |
| 00:41.38 | wols | greycat: hey! my .config files are just as good as anybody elses |
| 00:41.38 | greycat | (or *possibly* the headers) |
| 00:41.54 | simon | syn, ack, rst and a few other flags set |
| 00:41.55 | greycat | wols: not in answering the question "WHat options are enabled in Debian's kernel images?". |
| 00:42.04 | Hyp3rion | simon, Yay too bad |
| 00:42.05 | abydos | I have the debian kernel config file, and the slackware config file, and I've diffed them. In a moment, I'll make the diff available to the world. |
| 00:42.09 | simon | and allowing port 25 and 110 |
| 00:42.31 | simon | Hyp3rion: yay too bad? |
| 00:42.37 | flaco | hi... someone know how install x-director ?? |
| 00:42.42 | flaco | !dpkg |
| 00:42.42 | dpkg | i heard dpkg is the debian package manager, sort of like the debian equivalent to rpm. |
| 00:42.54 | Hyp3rion | simon, I paste my "connection tracking" 5line iptables script, will that help as a good starting point? |
| 00:43.09 | Hyp3rion | [i dont mean paste here...] |
| 00:43.15 | abydos | http://linuxmitosis.com/slack-woody.diff |
| 00:43.34 | abydos | File 1 is the slack kernel conf, file 2 is woody's. |
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| 00:43.50 | abydos | I'd point to apic as the culprit. |
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| 00:44.11 | greycat | !acpi |
| 00:44.11 | dpkg | rumour has it, acpi is Advanced Configuration and Power Interface -- a power management interface that gives more control to the OS. Details at http://www.teleport.com/~acpi/acpihtml/home.htm, or at http://phobos.fs.tum.de/acpi, or horribly horribly broken, extreme file system corruption, see 2.4.5 and 2.4.5-ac1 on apt. for suspend software check http://sourceforge.net/projects/swsusp/, or patches at http://sourceforge.net/projects/acpi (+kernel from kernel.org |
| 00:44.12 | simon | Hyp3rion sorry i duno the spam channel |
| 00:44.18 | abydos | !apic |
| 00:44.18 | dpkg | i heard apic is Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller, a new PIC, and about time too... |
| 00:44.58 | lorenzo | Could udev possibly mess up /dev/tty[0-6] so that I can't use mingetty? If I use devfs, /dev/vc/* works, but devfs breaks a lot of other things. |
| 00:45.12 | abydos | I remember having this same type of problem with Knoppix until I booted it with the noapic option. |
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| 00:45.49 | Miles800 | Using sylpheed, if I try to del a message on my aol imap account I get "error ocured while prcoessing messages" ...help..:-/ |
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| 00:45.52 | stew | abydos: yes, i remember you saying that a few times earlier, already, before, several times |
| 00:46.18 | abydos | stew: I'm from the department of redundancy department, what do you expect? |
| 00:46.21 | sbetore | HahAHAHA |
| 00:46.21 | Hyp3rion | simon, http://rafb.net/paste/results/tRqS4379.html |
| 00:46.27 | sbetore | A friend of mine got blaster |
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| 00:46.39 | Hyp3rion | simon, Assuming that the box is not a router, this should basicly work... |
| 00:46.41 | sbetore | and it said "Time to shutdown: 50 secs", as blaster does |
| 00:46.46 | Miles800 | I hate useless error messages more then anything |
| 00:46.52 | sbetore | and I just set the clock back two years |
| 00:46.54 | Hyp3rion | simon, Only allows smtp. |
| 00:47.05 | abydos | sbetore: It's left to the mind of the casual observer that he's not running Linux, and that he's pissed off. |
| 00:47.06 | sbetore | and it went "Time to shutdown: 760 days" |
| 00:47.18 | simon | Hyp3rion thanks for your time... yah i'll start looking into some ConTrack rules... thanks |
| 00:47.22 | dfc_ | i fixed the segmentation faulty error dy deleting pkgcache and srcpkgcache.bin |
| 00:47.39 | NudeNurd | does anyone here know of a good slideshow program for X? |
| 00:47.50 | abydos | Well, that helps me out in knowing why Woody didn't work and why Slackware did. |
| 00:48.01 | abydos | Next time I have a "woody" to install Woody, I'll boot noapic. |
| 00:48.03 | Hyp3rion | simon, :-) |
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| 00:48.44 | flaco | hi... someone know how install x-director ?? |
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| 00:49.49 | abydos | flaco: x-director is a MIME type, relegated to users of Windows, with a Shockwave player plugin. |
| 00:50.17 | abydos | IOW, if you want to run an X-Director animation, you have to use Windows. |
| 00:50.28 | flaco | .. :' |
| 00:50.31 | flaco | :'( |
| 00:50.33 | flaco | thk |
| 00:50.38 | abydos | yw. |
| 00:50.40 | sbetore | flaco: abydos is wrong |
| 00:50.52 | flaco | ? |
| 00:50.56 | abydos | sbetore: If I am, what's the right answer? |
| 00:50.57 | sbetore | flaco: You CAN play shockwave director files in Linux |
| 00:50.58 | simon | Hyp3rion: one more question. now if i have multiple ip's bound to one adapter will that matter in -i argument in your example? |
| 00:51.19 | abydos | sbetore: Not without Crossover Plugins |
| 00:51.25 | sbetore | flaco: It's a slightly annoying tricky thing. Download crossover office |
| 00:51.28 | abydos | sbetore: Which means it becomes not free. |
| 00:51.35 | cafuego | and director also plays just FINE under MacOS. |
| 00:51.36 | sbetore | flaco: It's a slightly annoying tricky thing. Download crossover plugins* |
| 00:51.42 | abydos | sbetore: Either not free or illegal. |
| 00:51.45 | flaco | mmm... |
| 00:51.46 | flaco | ok |
| 00:51.48 | sbetore | abydos: There's a 30day trial |
| 00:51.52 | Hyp3rion | simon, You will have to duplicate each line with -i, and change the interface yes :-/ |
| 00:51.56 | sbetore | and it costs nothing. |
| 00:52.07 | sbetore | as in very little, not as in nothing |
| 00:52.10 | abydos | sbetore: 30 day trials aren't useful, mate. |
| 00:52.20 | abydos | What does it cost? |
| 00:52.23 | sbetore | abydos: They are for 30 days. |
| 00:52.32 | sbetore | abydos: I think 40 for office |
| 00:52.42 | abydos | sbetore: How 'bout plugins? |
| 00:52.43 | sbetore | abydos: prolly 20 for plugins |
| 00:52.50 | Hyp3rion | simon, So you have each line for all interfaces you have. Buth then also change the -p FORWARD to ACCEPT |
| 00:52.53 | rich_ | abydos and zero time is better? |
| 00:52.56 | sbetore | not sure though. |
| 00:53.01 | abydos | sbetore: That isn't too bad, but I still loathe paying for software. |
| 00:53.16 | Hyp3rion | simon, Err, big -P |
| 00:53.17 | gravity | Oh no! The capitalists are trying to suck our money away! |
| 00:53.29 | abydos | rich_: You're right. I guess I just don't like paying for software. |
| 00:53.29 | gravity | Heaven forbid |
| 00:53.31 | Hyp3rion | gravity, ? |
| 00:53.43 | abydos | So much so that I only look for Freeware PalmOS software/extensions. |
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| 00:53.56 | sbetore | abydos: giving money to Crossover is a very Good Thing. |
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| 00:54.03 | sbetore | Sort of like Opera, too. |
| 00:54.05 | abydos | I know that. |
| 00:54.09 | simon | Hyp3rion: ie: i have .90 and .91 bound to eth0 aka eth0 and eth0:91. does that make a diff? |
| 00:54.16 | sbetore | Both are really good and ethical companies |
| 00:54.18 | gravity | sbetore: Even better than opera, since Wine is Free Software |
| 00:54.18 | abydos | Giving to TransGaming is a Very Good Thing too, if you're a gamer type. |
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| 00:54.20 | gravity | So you get it all back |
| 00:54.22 | rich_ | abydos Thats why I dont use proprietaryformats but linux handles them as well as windows. Anything windows does linux does better.. |
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| 00:54.38 | lorenzo | I don't mind paying for software, I just expect to be able to get the source code with it and I expect to be able to modify and distribute it too. |
| 00:54.38 | sbetore | and both are financially keeping a hellova lot of Linux hackers afloat. |
| 00:54.43 | abydos | rich_: what exactly are you trying to say. |
| 00:54.47 | Hyp3rion | simon, Yes i think. |
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| 00:54.54 | sbetore | I do work for Linux in schools in Norway |
| 00:55.01 | simon | Hyp3rion: again, thanks =] |
| 00:55.02 | Hyp3rion | simon, But if you know sh there is a more elegant way, for loops... |
| 00:55.32 | simon | Hyp3rion: i have shell programming ref. i'll try it out |
| 00:55.35 | abydos | lorenzo: I can't afford to pay for much. That's why I use Linux. |
| 00:55.39 | sbetore | and Opera, a relatively tiny .no software company, is keeping alive a ton of hackers |
| 00:55.48 | debian | Hyp3rion: 3am now... |
| 00:56.14 | lorenzo | abydos: Well, that is definitely one of the best benefits. |
| 00:56.22 | netdur | which debian version I should download? test or unstable? |
| 00:56.25 | sbetore | I think I've met four employees in Opera now, and all are doing Good Things, and doing it bloody well, too |
| 00:56.26 | abydos | lorenzo: My hardware was a gift from an uncle who felt sorry for me having all the family hand-me-downs, and bought me this relatively-fast machine. |
| 00:56.27 | Hyp3rion | simon, like for i in eth0 eth0:91; do iptables ... -i $1 ...; done |
| 00:56.39 | Hyp3rion | debian, 8) |
| 00:56.40 | abydos | netdur: What purpose is this machine for? |
| 00:56.41 | gravity | netdur: Testing until you know what you're doing better |
| 00:56.43 | sbetore | abydos: So, by all means, give money to both Opera and Xover |
| 00:56.47 | debian | netdur: you can only download testing |
| 00:56.48 | \Igor\ | netdur: what's your impatience threshold for new software? |
| 00:56.48 | Hyp3rion | debian, Will you report every hour? |
| 00:56.49 | gravity | netdur: Although it sounds like stable may be a better choice |
| 00:56.55 | debian | netdur: but can upgrade to unstable |
| 00:57.02 | rich_ | abydos Im saying that linux does it better than windows even though both require proprietary softeware for that particulliar task. |
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| 00:57.08 | abydos | sbetore: I will, once I get a job and can afford to. |
| 00:57.19 | debian | Hyp3rion: I'll ring the bell when dawn. :) |
| 00:57.25 | abydos | rich_: Preaching to the choir, dude. |
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| 00:57.37 | Hyp3rion | Hmm... :-( |
| 00:57.44 | Hyp3rion | debian, Dawn... wait... |
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| 00:57.51 | sbetore | abydos: I'm 16, I'm getting a bare-bones allowance from my orpanage, and I still registered my Opera. |
| 00:58.06 | Hyp3rion | Its a girls name, i can never memorise what else it means... brightness or darkness... |
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| 00:58.09 | netdur | I need it for my desktop also I need to do some develops (for web and gnome apps) |
| 00:58.20 | gravity | Hyp3rion: Both. When the sun rises. |
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| 00:58.26 | gravity | Light and dark at once |
| 00:58.38 | Miles800 | Is there a package for pine? |
| 00:58.43 | abydos | sbetore: I'm 16, I get a bare-bones allowance from social security (which isn't, BTW) and most of that goes to car insurance and gasoline. |
| 00:58.45 | lorenzo | Can udev mess up /dev/tty*? If so, how can I remake those devices? |
| 00:58.46 | greycat | dawn is when the sun comes up. dusk is when it sets. |
| 00:58.54 | Hyp3rion | gravity, Yup thats what confuses me. Dawn ~= down. And you call the sunRISE like that :~/ |
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| 00:59.02 | gravity | heh |
| 00:59.09 | ToniT | Miles800: There is a source package in non-free. |
| 00:59.14 | greycat | !be english barbie |
| 00:59.14 | dpkg | The english HARD is! |
| 00:59.17 | Hyp3rion | debian, What bell? |
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| 00:59.36 | ToniT | Miles800: But you should use mutt. ;) |
| 00:59.46 | Miles800 | ToniT, k thanks |
| 00:59.49 | \Igor\ | netdur: go with testing, in unstable you sometimes need to know how to fix problems |
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| 01:00.09 | netdur | ok, thanks |
| 01:00.12 | Hyp3rion | English is expressive but so... err... whats the opposite of diverse? |
| 01:00.14 | \Igor\ | netdur: testing _may_ be out of date for weeks (month?) |
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| 01:00.23 | sbetore | !be maths barbie |
| 01:00.25 | cafuego | eenheidsworst |
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| 01:00.28 | greycat | Hyp3rion: consistent, or few |
| 01:00.40 | Hyp3rion | few zup :-/ |
| 01:00.45 | Hyp3rion | whoops yup |
| 01:00.56 | cafuego | english isn't 8that* expressive anyway |
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| 01:01.01 | gravity | !be a math barbie |
| 01:01.01 | dpkg | awwww, math is so HARD. Let's go shopping. |
| 01:01.03 | sbetore | I like English for its sausage good vocabulary |
| 01:01.10 | abydos | Hyp3rion: Boring would work in that instance, too. |
| 01:01.17 | gravity | sbetore: Americans don't say maths :-) |
| 01:01.29 | sbetore | gravity: I say torture |
| 01:01.34 | Hyp3rion | And has not the "playfullness" i am used to in hungarian. Of course its not true for this irc slang spoken here :-) |
| 01:01.36 | greycat | correct; we use "math" as the abbreviation of "mathematics" |
| 01:01.41 | pardini | hello all... yesterday I tried d-i (beta 4)... it failed because of libdb4.2 dependancy if I'm not mistaken... do people know about this? |
| 01:01.44 | \Igor\ | Hyp3rion: what's your language? |
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| 01:01.53 | gravity | sbetore: Ha! Me too |
| 01:01.53 | greycat | pardini: #debian-boot |
| 01:01.53 | bass- | hello |
| 01:01.53 | debian | damn, Paul Andreu seems to have taken out the design of the Air France Terminal from his website... |
| 01:01.58 | \Igor\ | ah |
| 01:02.06 | sbetore | I fell asleep in maths |
| 01:02.13 | sbetore | while the teacher was talking |
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| 01:02.20 | bass- | i just confused about usage perl in exim. my script return "yes" or "fail", but my condition don't work: condition =${if eq {${perl{rblcheck}}} {(?i)"Yes"} {1}{0}}. what is the right way use condition? if i try condition = ${perl{rblcheck}} script always return 1 in exim, because script is work ok |
| 01:02.25 | Hyp3rion | \Igor\, hungarian |
| 01:02.27 | sbetore | I just had this dream about a noisy steam locomotive |
| 01:02.28 | greycat | Hyp3rion: if you're just learning English in school then of course you aren't getting the full rich color of common English usage |
| 01:02.39 | pardini | ok thnx :) |
| 01:02.40 | sbetore | Apparently I snored, so they woke me |
| 01:02.48 | gravity | greycat: Fucking aye |
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| 01:03.11 | abydos | gravity: Can you please try to keep the language under control? |
| 01:03.12 | cafuego | they should level all of the terminals at charles the gaulle |
| 01:03.19 | greycat | abydos: don't *even* go there. |
| 01:03.22 | sbetore | Hyp3rion: Just fucking insert fuck at random fucking locations. |
| 01:03.37 | abydos | greycat: why? |
| 01:03.40 | sbetore | Google for hasaad market to see what I mean. |
| 01:03.47 | abydos | greycat: Has that been attempted before, or is it a non-issue? |
| 01:04.02 | gravity | abydos: It's definitely a non-issue, especially when it's not being used to insult anyone directly |
| 01:04.04 | greycat | abydos: it leads to people being +q'd and so on. Nasty things. |
| 01:04.13 | abydos | Ah. |
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| 01:04.44 | cafuego | besides,t eh word fuck isn't half as offensive as say cunt |
| 01:04.50 | Hyp3rion | greycat, i actually read many english books... i dont like prose, but i read a bit of poetry... for example we even taught the english and hungarian version of poe's raven, just an example to depict how the translator made it more rich just by writing it down in hungarian. :-/ But i dont really aggree... english is more terse and expressive in a way... practical. |
| 01:04.51 | gravity | heh |
| 01:04.58 | abydos | After existing in here peacefully for a while, you people seem as tolerant as hippies, compared to the #gentoo folks. |
| 01:05.10 | debian | cafuego: I found 'teh' offensive. :) |
| 01:05.28 | gravity | Hyp3rion: English can be very rich, if used correctly. You have to read authors that do that. |
| 01:05.37 | Hyp3rion | err, s/taught/learnt/ |
| 01:05.39 | cafuego | abydos: Well, at the end of the day, what could a few pixels on screen possibly do to you? :-) |
| 01:05.44 | abydos | The #gentoo crowd gets all up in arms if you even mention a bodily function. |
| 01:05.50 | gravity | Wow |
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| 01:06.03 | gravity | Who'd have thought the Gentoo people were anal retentive? |
| 01:06.17 | sussudio | gravity: their proctologists? |
| 01:06.27 | cafuego | gravity: probably a linux flavour for midwest biblethumpers then eh |
| 01:06.32 | gravity | Ha! |
| 01:06.34 | lostsoul_ | does anybody have any clue why I can not exit out of base-config? |
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| 01:06.51 | cafuego | i suppose they really dobn't have anything to do but look at gcc output scroll by ;-) |
| 01:06.52 | abydos | cafuego: gentoo != #gentoo. |
| 01:06.57 | abydos | The #gentoo folks are anal retentive. |
| 01:07.02 | abydos | Gentoo is intuitive. |
| 01:07.17 | Hyp3rion | still sometimes really bad english :-( |
| 01:07.23 | abydos | cafuego: Actually, that can get you into a trance state, or so I've heard. |
| 01:07.27 | Hyp3rion | abydos, what? |
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| 01:07.39 | Hyp3rion | and i learn new weord every that like THAT^^^ |
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| 01:07.45 | Hyp3rion | words |
| 01:07.46 | abydos | Staring at GCC output can put you into a trance state, or so I've heard. |
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| 01:07.56 | cafuego | abydos: Does can eating the wrong kind of mushrooms. Still doesn't mean it's a good idea. |
| 01:08.03 | cafuego | s/Does/So/ |
| 01:08.07 | gravity | What does something being intuitive have anything to do with anal retentiveness? |
| 01:08.17 | abydos | cafuego: Right. |
| 01:08.18 | gravity | Not that gentoo is intuitive. The Mac is intuitive. Gentoo is not. |
| 01:08.21 | jarango | How can I get kdm to run at startup? It stopped running after I added a new script to the runlevels |
| 01:08.32 | greycat | jarango: dpkg-reconfigure kdm |
| 01:08.33 | abydos | cafuego: That's why I don't watch gcc output scroll by, I just use X. |
| 01:08.48 | greycat | jarango: or examine /etc/X11/*manage* |
| 01:09.00 | abydos | Miles800: I'm fond of os X myself. |
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| 01:09.02 | cafuego | default-display-manager |
| 01:09.09 | jarango | greycat: thank you, Do you know why does this happen ? |
| 01:09.18 | greycat | jarango: /etc/X11/~knoppix@200217088055.user.veloxzone.com.br] joined #debian |
| 01:09.19 | sbetore | Gentoo is about as intuitive as certain 1970s adventure games |
| 01:09.19 | abydos | Hyp3rion: ew, old bad-looking MacOS. |
| 01:09.19 | debian | gravity: if by intuitive means that doing something very complicated without knowing the underlying operations, and walk out being clueless, then gentoo is. :) |
| 01:09.20 | greycat | bah. |
| 01:09.30 | greycat | damned rodents. |
| 01:09.32 | abydos | sbetore: Actually, Nethack is pretty intuitive. |
| 01:09.36 | sbetore | You see an mtab file. What do you do? |
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| 01:09.44 | stew | i think i could solve a 1970s adventure game in the time it takes to compile gentoo |
| 01:09.47 | greycat | sbetore: drop it on an altar! |
| 01:09.47 | sbetore | > Close and reboot |
| 01:09.50 | Hyp3rion | abydos, Bad looking? Tho i better like the AmigaOS4... |
| 01:09.51 | abydos | sbetore: k |
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| 01:10.08 | cafuego | debian: no really, opening a shell, running a compile and and install *is* an intuituve way of starting a web browser. It really is. |
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| 01:10.12 | sbetore | You didn't ad the root partition. Too bad, start over. |
| 01:10.19 | sbetore | You scored nothing, go away. |
| 01:10.19 | abydos | Hyp3rion: I like KDE better, OS 8.x..9.x look dumb. |
| 01:10.29 | abydos | sbetore: care to recode nethack to do that? |
| 01:10.38 | abydos | sbetore: You'd have tons of fun doing it. |
| 01:10.47 | cafuego | abydos: looking dumb has nothing to do with being or not being intuitive. |
| 01:10.56 | Hyp3rion | abydos, Okay, Warp3 then? |
| 01:11.00 | Hyp3rion | OS/2 |
| 01:11.02 | sbetore | abydos: I'm talking about advent and wumpus and that ilk |
| 01:11.27 | cafuego | # put analgesic in pocket |
| 01:11.29 | abydos | Hyp3rion: I'd prefer MacOS 7.x |
| 01:11.29 | sbetore | abydos: Stuff that would run on this <http://tore.nortia.no/images/tsb> |
| 01:11.41 | abydos | sbetore: Nothing wrong with wumpus. |
| 01:11.43 | Hyp3rion | debian, Btw, what's yo religion? I am just curious... Taoist? Konfucionist? Buddhist? |
| 01:11.51 | sbetore | cafuego: You take it! |
| 01:11.57 | abydos | sbetore: I loved wump, on the original CP/M box. |
| 01:12.00 | Hyp3rion | abydos, Heh |
| 01:12.02 | sbetore | cafuego: You take it from the pocket, eat it. |
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| 01:12.10 | sbetore | then get the hell out. etc. |
| 01:12.23 | abydos | I have a couple Kaypro IIs that run Wump. |
| 01:12.24 | Hyp3rion | cafuego, :-? |
| 01:12.36 | debian | Hyp3rion: Satanism |
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| 01:12.40 | Hyp3rion | cafuego, Should have been big R or? |
| 01:12.46 | gravity | Kaypros! |
| 01:12.55 | cafuego | Hyp3rion: No, should have been elsewhere ;-) |
| 01:12.56 | sbetore | abydos: You still have your Kaypro? |
| 01:12.58 | abydos | yep. |
| 01:12.59 | gravity | I used to go to the Kaypro building's ruins and poke around |
| 01:13.02 | sbetore | abydos: Those are rare nowadays |
| 01:13.03 | abydos | They still run,too. |
| 01:13.03 | Hyp3rion | debian, Pretty scary. There are actually many here in hungary too :-/ |
| 01:13.07 | abydos | Two of them. |
| 01:13.12 | cafuego | debian: you haven't prayed to me for weeks, mortal. |
| 01:13.16 | gravity | They were headquartered where I grew up |
| 01:13.30 | Hyp3rion | /j #religion |
| 01:13.31 | abydos | cool! |
| 01:13.31 | madduck | sussudio: you there? |
| 01:13.36 | debian | Hyp3rion: are you still a virgin? Nothing special, just for my personal reference. :) |
| 01:13.41 | TweedleDumb | ok... im a noob and im having trouble removing iptotal... it says: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 01:13.41 | abydos | sbetore: I also own a COCO 3 |
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| 01:14.11 | sbetore | http://tore.nortia.no/images/tsb still has got you beat |
| 01:14.21 | Hyp3rion | debian, Virgin? Yes. And you? |
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| 01:14.49 | debian | Hyp3rion: we've 70% discount for people like you. ...NO, you'll not be sacrificed.. :) |
| 01:14.50 | xenohugs | <- Amiga 2000 owner |
| 01:14.56 | jarango | what runlevel starts X window system ? |
| 01:15.00 | Unfrgiven | hey all... im having a problem with X forwarding. if i ssh to my machine and launch an X application like gvim, it works fine. but if i "su" and run and application, it says that it cannot open display. any ideas whats wrong? |
| 01:15.12 | abydos | I have an Amiga 500, but I don't have the kickstart disk anymore. |
| 01:15.17 | stew | jarango: by default debian treats all runlevels 2-5 as the same |
| 01:15.24 | Hyp3rion | debian, 14yo japanese girl? still virgin? |
| 01:15.34 | Hyp3rion | Whoops... |
| 01:15.47 | abydos | My AT&T UNIX PC is pretty heavy, but from what I understand it runs System V |
| 01:15.50 | \Igor\ | jarango: on debian it's runlevel 2 |
| 01:15.52 | xenohugs | My A2000 has a scan doubler and a graphics card so I don't need a 15khz monitor. Of course, if either of those ever craps out, I'm scr00ed. |
| 01:15.54 | debian | Hyp3rion: 99% of us are 14yo japanese schoolgrrl. Interested? :) |
| 01:15.54 | sbetore | abydos: http://tore.nortia.no/images/tsb still has got you beat (DAMNIT, it's the third time, read it this time!!1 ;) |
| 01:15.57 | Hyp3rion | debian, yrgf gnyx va ebg13 sebz abj ba |
| 01:16.05 | sbetore | abydos: OO, those are COOL machines. |
| 01:16.10 | gravity | debian: Speak for yourself! I'm 15! |
| 01:16.13 | gravity | Damn it |
| 01:16.21 | debian | gravity: old ghost. :) |
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| 01:16.25 | gravity | Hahahaha |
| 01:16.28 | abydos | sbetore: They are, but mine's monitor keeps putzing out |
| 01:16.37 | \Igor\ | Unfrgiven: you have to do some magic with xauth to get su and X to play well together |
| 01:16.37 | debian | Hyp3rion: speaking in satanish is a good start. :) |
| 01:16.41 | abydos | I need to fix it or relegate it to a serial console. |
| 01:16.45 | Miles800 | unforgiven: I think you need to give root permission to use the display as the loggin user as backwards as that sounds. I just can't remember the command |
| 01:16.48 | abydos | I have the terminal |
| 01:16.49 | pardini | oh. anyone knows where I can find potato? there seems to be no "oldstable" in any mirror... |
| 01:17.05 | gravity | pardini: archive.debian.org should have it |
| 01:17.07 | sbetore | Guvf vf #qrovna - lbh pna npghnyyl rkcrpg gb or haqrefgbbq juvyr qbvat vg, gbb ;) |
| 01:17.08 | gravity | iirc |
| 01:17.14 | jarango | stew: kdm stopped working after I added a script to runlevel 2-5. I did "dpkg-reconfigure kdm" and it still does not start |
| 01:17.17 | Unfrgiven | \Igor\: would you know what that magic is? |
| 01:17.22 | Hyp3rion | debian, v qhaab fngnavfu |
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| 01:17.47 | abydos | sbetore: What the crap is that? |
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| 01:18.05 | Viddy | rot13? |
| 01:18.09 | \Igor\ | Unfrgiven: it is so arcane that i have not mastered it, but dpkg knows (i don't remmember the key though) |
| 01:18.15 | debian | Hyp3rion: 1337fcrnx naq ebg13 ner fngnavfu. :) |
| 01:18.25 | \Igor\ | Unfrgiven: in the mean time i've found a nice solution, gksu |
| 01:18.32 | stew | jarango: what script did you add? does it work when you remove the script? what does /etc/init.d/kdm restart do? |
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| 01:18.36 | sbetore | Hyp3rion: Jvgu zvabe rkprcgvbaf, V thrff... :) |
| 01:18.37 | abydos | Now, I'm going to go debate serverrules on another network. I'm going /away here. |
| 01:18.41 | TweedleDumb | where do we go for help? |
| 01:18.46 | sbetore | abydos: Oh, the machine? |
| 01:18.52 | abydos | sbetore: Yeah. |
| 01:18.55 | _ale_ | how can i use "substr()" ??? i have the following error: undefined reference to `substr' |
| 01:18.57 | sbetore | abydos: It's a PDP-7 from 1965 |
| 01:18.57 | dude | hello. I am trying to build the 2.6.6 kernel and kept running into the VFS: cant mount root |
| 01:18.57 | Unfrgiven | \Igor\: ooooh... dpkg knows? what do i need to type to get dpkg to fix it for me? "dpkg --configure xbase-clients"? |
| 01:19.01 | abydos | WOO! |
| 01:19.01 | sbetore | TweedleDumb: Munich |
| 01:19.02 | pardini | gravity: true, archive should have it, but (atleast for me, it's unreachable)... thnx anyway... |
| 01:19.08 | Hyp3rion | sbetore, uru |
| 01:19.12 | \Igor\ | Unfrgiven: :-) dpkg is a bot here |
| 01:19.13 | dude | I have googled and realize that debian uses the cramFS |
| 01:19.16 | TweedleDumb | what does that mean? |
| 01:19.25 | _ale_ | \j #c |
| 01:19.32 | Unfrgiven | \Igor\: doh! hehe... ok what do i need to ask dpkg? |
| 01:19.33 | gravity | pardini: I could be wrong about the URL. I hope that's right though. |
| 01:19.35 | dude | unfortunately, even when I include it in the kernel, builtit, I still can not get my new kernel to build |
| 01:19.37 | Hyp3rion | debian, ba gura v jnf obea sbe vg, whfg qvqag ernyvmr gvyy abj!!1! |
| 01:19.38 | _ale_ | \j #c |
| 01:19.42 | dude | i am useing make-kpkg |
| 01:20.00 | pardini | gravity: no, it's the right one... archive.debian.org (208.185.25.38) |
| 01:20.06 | \Igor\ | Unfrgiven: don't remember unfortunately, but look into the gksu package |
| 01:20.09 | gravity | pardini: Ok |
| 01:20.15 | Unfrgiven | okie dokie, thanx! |
| 01:20.18 | jarango | stew: my own rc.local. I removed it and kdm still does not start. I used 99 as the sequence number ... |
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| 01:20.34 | \Igor\ | _ale_: your *other* slash |
| 01:20.35 | sbetore | dude: HAHA, no. |
| 01:20.39 | debian | Hyp3rion: yby |
| 01:20.45 | sbetore | dude: CramFS is not even usable for harddrives. |
| 01:21.22 | sbetore | dude: You want ext2, and ext3. |
| 01:21.39 | dude | sbetore, i know that. But debian usings an ram image when it first loads so it can load modules |
| 01:22.06 | Hyp3rion | _ale_, /j #c |
| 01:22.10 | Hyp3rion | /j #c |
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| 01:22.20 | _ale_ | thanks i already did it :D |
| 01:22.23 | sbetore | dude: If you're building your own kernel, then don't build it with an initrd |
| 01:22.50 | dude | sbetore, thanks. But even when I dont build it, and build everything I need into the kernel I still get the VFS can mout root error! |
| 01:22.57 | somiaj | what is the command to find and replace in vim with regex? :s/foo/bar/g just didn't seem to work |
| 01:23.24 | gravity | somiaj: If you want it to work on every line, you have to put line numbers in |
| 01:23.30 | gravity | somiaj: 0,$ s/foo/bar/g |
| 01:23.40 | gravity | somiaj: That's for the whole document |
| 01:23.42 | somiaj | gravity: ahh I see....ok...(: |
| 01:23.45 | \Igor\ | somiaj: try :%s/..., % means on every line |
| 01:23.50 | jarango | stew: I noticed that the kdm script is empty |
| 01:24.09 | gravity | \Igor\: Cool. I didn't know that one |
| 01:24.12 | jarango | stew: could you tell me how to fix it ? |
| 01:24.32 | stew | jarango: apt-get install --reinstall kdm |
| 01:24.38 | \Igor\ | gravity: i learned it from a typescript that showed how to upgrade to woody from potato :-) |
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| 01:24.52 | gravity | Heh, cool |
| 01:25.06 | XadfhicA | anyone know what the LILO Error is when the screen gets loaded with, 0101010101 ? |
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| 01:25.59 | jarango | stew: still 0 bytes |
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| 01:26.45 | knoppix_ | how i do to enter in other server? |
| 01:27.03 | knoppix_ | i am talking serious, i'm new in linux and i dont know this! |
| 01:27.07 | anthill | edit /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 01:27.10 | gravity | knoppix_: IRC server? |
| 01:27.14 | XadfhicA | eh? |
| 01:27.17 | gravity | ugh |
| 01:27.26 | Randy | howdy |
| 01:27.29 | XadfhicA | anyone know what the LILO Error is when the screen gets loaded with, 0101010101's over and over? |
| 01:27.50 | sussudio | gravity: it's moving! http://home.wanadoo.nl/sussudio/holycrap2.jpg |
| 01:27.54 | sussudio | XadfhicA: yes |
| 01:28.08 | XadfhicA | sussudio, what is it? |
| 01:28.23 | gravity | sussudio: Where's my bus? We've got to chase it |
| 01:28.40 | jarango | stew: I have a bunch a scripts in init.d with zero bytes.. is this normal ? |
| 01:28.41 | sussudio | XadfhicA: zless /usr/share/doc/lilo/Manual.txt.gz |
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| 01:28.49 | knoppix | irc.brasnet.org |
| 01:28.59 | XadfhicA | wow im so thankful |
| 01:29.01 | XadfhicA | heh |
| 01:29.02 | gravity | Dude. That guy is very annoying. |
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| 01:31.46 | stew | Junior01: that is not normal |
| 01:31.55 | stew | ^jarango |
| 01:31.59 | proximacnt | XadfhicA, Yeah, these assholes won't even read documenctation for you |
| 01:32.07 | proximacnt | documentation |
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| 01:32.24 | proximacnt | I mean, what are you paying them for? |
| 01:32.27 | XadfhicA | heh |
| 01:32.37 | XadfhicA | you are among the unhelpfull |
| 01:32.50 | gravity | Dude. Manual. Read. |
| 01:32.53 | gravity | It's not hard. |
| 01:33.00 | XadfhicA | dude. |
| 01:33.01 | XadfhicA | i. |
| 01:33.02 | XadfhicA | did. |
| 01:33.04 | sussudio | !be rtfm barbie |
| 01:33.08 | sussudio | ohwell. |
| 01:33.26 | jarango | stew: yeah ? |
| 01:33.32 | XadfhicA | if. I. could. have. figured. it. out. from. the. manual. I. wouldnt. have. asked. the. question. |
| 01:33.51 | XadfhicA | so. if. you. would. like. to. grow. some. balls. and. help. me. that. would. be. nice. |
| 01:33.56 | proximacnt | XadfhicA, Work on reading comprehension. phonics has a great program |
| 01:34.08 | RichiH | XadfhicA: put it into groups.google.com? i am not familiar with this error. |
| 01:34.23 | stew | jarango: yeah, that is not normal. is the partiion containing /etc/ full? |
| 01:34.29 | xenohugs | XadfhicA, many people here simply can't comprehend the very real possibility that a person has both (A) read the manual and (B) been unable to find the information they were after. |
| 01:34.33 | sussudio | 0x01 "Illegal command". This shouldn't happen, but if it does, it mayindicate an attempt to access a disk which is not supported by theBIOS. See also "Warning: BIOS drive 0x<number> may not be accessible"in section "Warnings". |
| 01:34.44 | jarango | cd /etc |
| 01:34.45 | thomas_adam | su, sus, sussudio |
| 01:34.45 | jarango | ls |
| 01:34.51 | sussudio | password: |
| 01:34.59 | XadfhicA | xenohugs, well start comprehending |
| 01:35.03 | thomas_adam | PhilCollins |
| 01:35.16 | xenohugs | XadfhicA: I was trying to be a friend to you. You're welcome. |
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| 01:35.21 | XadfhicA | If someone would just like to tell me what the 01 error means, that'd be great |
| 01:35.26 | XadfhicA | :-/ |
| 01:35.29 | sussudio | XadfhicA: i just pasted it, you dimwit |
| 01:35.33 | thomas_adam | XadfhicA: First error encountered. |
| 01:35.33 | XadfhicA | it looked like u were bein a weirdo to me |
| 01:35.36 | jarango | stew: yes, but something must have happened, how could I reinstall the scripts init /etc/init.d ? |
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| 01:35.40 | XadfhicA | sorry |
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| 01:35.48 | stew | jarango: apt-get install --reinstall pkgname |
| 01:35.53 | astronut | what is the "Debian Way" to modify init services startup? |
| 01:36.03 | stew | astronut: man update-rc.d |
| 01:36.05 | sussudio | astronut: man update-rc.d |
| 01:36.11 | astronut | thanks... |
| 01:36.13 | astronut | both of you |
| 01:36.24 | gravity | XadfhicA: Does it show any letters at all? |
| 01:36.24 | jarango | stew: it's not working.. it reinstalls the package but the script remains with zero bytes ... |
| 01:36.32 | XadfhicA | gravity, just 01 |
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| 01:37.04 | gravity | XadfhicA: Well, according to the manual, either No part of LILO has been loaded, LILO either isn't installed or the partition on which its boot sector is located isn't active |
| 01:37.04 | stew | jarango: try apt-get remove --purge kdm ' apt-get install kdm |
| 01:37.19 | gravity | XadfhicA: So, given this, you probably need to install LILO properly |
| 01:37.36 | gravity | XadfhicA: How did you change things before you rebooted and it stopped working? |
| 01:37.42 | sussudio | gravity: or actually run it or something |
| 01:37.46 | gravity | sussudio: Yep |
| 01:37.52 | gravity | Funny what the manual tells you when you read it |
| 01:38.04 | jarango | stew: thanks |
| 01:38.09 | debian | We must tell knoppix not to make xchat default to #debian. |
| 01:38.12 | XadfhicA | gravity, I used the installer's automatic lilo.conf generator |
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| 01:38.19 | gravity | XadfhicA: What installer? |
| 01:38.28 | XadfhicA | gravity, the debian cd |
| 01:38.39 | gravity | XadfhicA: You're not helping here |
| 01:38.43 | sussudio | :-| |
| 01:38.50 | XadfhicA | gravity, the actual installation of debian |
| 01:38.51 | XadfhicA | heh |
| 01:38.53 | gravity | XadfhicA: Woody's installer, or d-i? |
| 01:39.00 | XadfhicA | gravity, woody |
| 01:39.07 | jarango | stew: that worked, thanks |
| 01:39.13 | gravity | XadfhicA: Can you boot with a boot disk at least? |
| 01:39.16 | abydos | sbetore: That's a nice PDP-6 |
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| 01:39.20 | abydos | Wish I had that. |
| 01:39.22 | gravity | XadfhicA: I assume you made one when you installed, like it suggested |
| 01:39.22 | XadfhicA | gravity, thats how I got here :D |
| 01:39.26 | gravity | Ok, good |
| 01:39.39 | gravity | XadfhicA: As superuser, run lilo |
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| 01:40.26 | XadfhicA | gravity, done |
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| 01:41.33 | gravity | XadfhicA: No errors? |
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| 01:41.54 | XadfhicA | gravity, nope, none |
| 01:41.57 | luke_ | hello |
| 01:42.13 | luke_ | how do i set a desktop background using icewm? |
| 01:42.26 | sussudio | note to self: cancel all contracts with french construction companies |
| 01:42.35 | XadfhicA | heh |
| 01:42.38 | gravity | XadfhicA: Ok. It's possible that it'll work. It's also possible that you'll have the same error. |
| 01:43.00 | XadfhicA | gravity, yeah most likely, cuz nothin has changed :P |
| 01:43.05 | XadfhicA | but ill try it out anyhow |
| 01:43.11 | gravity | XadfhicA: Well, now lilo is at least installed for sure |
| 01:43.16 | debian | sussudio: Paul Andreu is very famous. You can't avoid entering one of his designed building. :) |
| 01:43.17 | gravity | Do you have it installed on the MBR? |
| 01:43.32 | XadfhicA | yepp |
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| 01:43.37 | debian | sussudio: avoid any round-shape building. :) |
| 01:43.38 | XadfhicA | as far as I know:) |
| 01:43.54 | sussudio | debian: there's going to be a lot more squished frenchmen then |
| 01:44.06 | gravity | Ok... |
| 01:44.09 | debian | sussudio: fyi: http://www.paul-andreu.com/ |
| 01:44.11 | XadfhicA | gravity, actually now that I look at it, It has boot=/dev/hdb |
| 01:44.16 | XadfhicA | That's considered MBr? |
| 01:44.31 | debian | sussudio: he has taken away the designed of the Air France Terminal. Bastard. :) |
| 01:44.33 | gravity | XadfhicA: No, that would be your boot sector, where the kernel should be, iirc |
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| 01:44.52 | sussudio | debian: the pic probably self-destructed |
| 01:45.15 | debian | sussudio: there's nothing wrong with round shaped construction - as long as they don't collapse |
| 01:45.23 | XadfhicA | kbrb |
| 01:45.29 | abydos | What netfilter frontends are there besides shorewall? |
| 01:45.49 | abydos | Preferably one that uses NCurses |
| 01:45.54 | proximacnt | abydos, Have you searched freshmeat? |
| 01:46.03 | debian | sussudio: I'm so worried. He built the stadium for the China Olympus games in Gongzhou. If you see the pic it's very big... |
| 01:46.08 | abydos | proximacnt: Funny story behind that, I can't access freshmeat. |
| 01:46.31 | holycow | mozilla firebird no longer has that cool firebird icon as defautl :/ |
| 01:46.33 | holycow | :) |
| 01:46.41 | abydos | proximacnt: My Netgear router (or my internet service) has blocked my use of freshmeat. |
| 01:46.47 | abydos | Or maybe it's just my computer. |
| 01:46.54 | debian | sussudio: it looks like the roof are going to collapse any time soon... ~_~ |
| 01:46.58 | Hyp3rion | debian, 4am! |
| 01:46.58 | abydos | I don't know which, but I can't access the website. |
| 01:47.02 | gravity | holycow: Blame the mozilla foundation and their stupid license |
| 01:47.09 | Hyp3rion | debian, Very beautiful dawning!!! |
| 01:47.19 | debian | Hyp3rion: 5 minutes to 4am, cowboy |
| 01:47.31 | holycow | oh is that why? |
| 01:47.39 | holycow | ah! i thought it was something funky |
| 01:47.41 | abydos | --- www.freshmeat.net ping statistics --- |
| 01:47.41 | abydos | 10 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 9031ms |
| 01:47.47 | cafuego | abydos: disable ecn |
| 01:47.50 | holycow | its that licence that prohibits distribution right? |
| 01:47.53 | abydos | cafuego: ecn? |
| 01:47.53 | holycow | heh retards |
| 01:47.54 | gravity | holycow: Yeah, of the icon |
| 01:48.02 | cafuego | abydos: yes, ecn |
| 01:48.08 | abydos | cafuego: what's ecn? |
| 01:48.23 | cafuego | explicit congestion notification |
| 01:48.33 | abydos | what do I do to disable that? |
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| 01:48.37 | Hyp3rion | With an ongoing windstorm, but totally clear sky! |
| 01:48.40 | debian | Hyp3rion: I think I've seen a website with a live cam shooting Budapest, let me check |
| 01:48.44 | mickeyks | what's a good RSS client? |
| 01:48.45 | proximacnt | abydos, /msg dpkg ecn |
| 01:48.46 | Hyp3rion | Like being on an other planet :-/ |
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| 01:49.01 | cafuego | echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn |
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| 01:49.27 | holycow | brb rebootin |
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| 01:49.35 | debian | Hyp3rion: Ok, I'm at Garay Square now, can you wave? |
| 01:49.54 | abydos | Connecting to freshmeat... |
| 01:49.55 | Hyp3rion | debian, Which square< nevear heard of that :-D |
| 01:50.21 | Hyp3rion | debian, Turn that webcam northeast |
| 01:50.22 | debian | Hyp3rion: Garay T'er |
| 01:50.29 | abydos | still not working. |
| 01:50.36 | abydos | hang on. |
| 01:50.39 | Hyp3rion | i have no clue where that it :-/ |
| 01:50.49 | Hyp3rion | debian, URL? |
| 01:51.00 | debian | Hyp3rion: http://www.irisz.hu/webcam_hun.html |
| 01:51.03 | rredd47 | i installed.. bf2.. net install.. what do i type for apt-get install ircii .. want a console irc client.. need version number..ty |
| 01:51.06 | Hyp3rion | heh |
| 01:51.09 | debian | Hyp3rion: http://www.csatolna.hu/hu/webcam/webcam_ie.shtml |
| 01:51.20 | debian | Hyp3rion: that's Garay square |
| 01:51.34 | wide288 | how to install Debian base system, use net? net_address = http://http.us.debian.org/debian ,is fail. |
| 01:51.38 | abydos | 4 AM? |
| 01:51.46 | debian | Hyp3rion: are those places near where you live? |
| 01:51.52 | abydos | Where is it 4 AM? |
| 01:51.54 | Hyp3rion | debian, this iris one will be cool. but its much lighter now, actually. |
| 01:52.06 | debian | Hyp3rion: bad cam. :) |
| 01:52.28 | NudeNurd | basically I want a piece of software that will read images out of a directory and display them fullscreen. Should have options to be random, or ordered. Would be nice if I could configure it through a config file. I also need it to have transition effects, like fade... |
| 01:52.33 | Hyp3rion | debian, csatolna i dunno, but i guess its not budapest from the name... |
| 01:52.42 | thomas_adam | NudeNurd: [x]zgv |
| 01:52.47 | abydos | NudeNurd: look at erfanview |
| 01:52.53 | abydos | NudeNurd: spelling on that. |
| 01:53.02 | NudeNurd | irfanview... |
| 01:53.05 | NudeNurd | is that not for windows? |
| 01:53.09 | Hyp3rion | debian, tho this square really maked me deja vu :-/ |
| 01:53.16 | abydos | I think there's a linux port |
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| 01:53.20 | NudeNurd | thomas_adam, [x]zgv? |
| 01:53.24 | thomas_adam | !zgv |
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| 01:53.24 | dpkg | somebody said zgv was a graphics viewer at ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/apps/graphics/viewers/svga/zgv2.8-bin.tar.gz or zgv does gif. lame, or your console pr0n viewer, or laden with a nasty bug and the MAINTAINER WON'T ANSWER! |
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| 01:53.42 | thomas_adam | hmm, what bug? :) |
| 01:53.44 | debian | Hyp3rion: where in hungary do you live? |
| 01:53.48 | abydos | ach, it's windows only |
| 01:53.53 | thomas_adam | NudeNurd: xzgv is the X11 version. |
| 01:54.10 | wide288 | What is Download URL ? |
| 01:54.25 | wide288 | install Debian Base system. |
| 01:54.27 | Hyp3rion | debian, ==> http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/jpeg/PIA04952.jpg <== Budapest from a satellite ;-) |
| 01:54.36 | thomas_adam | !tell wide288 about d-i |
| 01:54.43 | thomas_adam | !tell wide288 about debian |
| 01:54.46 | thomas_adam | !tell wide288 about ask |
| 01:54.48 | thomas_adam | !tell wide288 about sicco |
| 01:54.59 | Hyp3rion | debian, see that pic> |
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| 01:55.27 | holycow | *oospie* |
| 01:55.28 | debian | Hyp3rion: looking at it. Where exactly are you. :) |
| 01:55.31 | Hyp3rion | debian, blue shing in the middle is the city... |
| 01:55.31 | holycow | no more budapest |
| 01:55.32 | holycow | :) |
| 01:55.41 | wide288 | thomas_adam thank you! |
| 01:55.42 | Hyp3rion | debian, there is a hill on the riverside |
| 01:55.48 | NudeNurd | thomas_adam, and this thing does transitions? |
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| 01:56.09 | thomas_adam | NudeNurd: No, apt-get install imagemagick for that, Geez, you _don't_ want much, do you? |
| 01:56.12 | XahDfIca | hey I get an error> L 40 40 40 40* |
| 01:56.14 | debian | Hyp3rion: got it, where are you? |
| 01:56.15 | XahDfIca | When I boot up now |
| 01:56.16 | Hyp3rion | debian, i live on that hill, and that 'irisz' webcam is apparently on the same hill, just facing a different direction |
| 01:56.17 | thomas_adam | !L |
| 01:56.17 | dpkg | rumour has it, l is the english version of the greek letter lambda, as used by Alonzo Church in creating his lambda calculus. |
| 01:56.38 | debian | !a |
| 01:56.38 | dpkg | from memory, a is UK's best rock band :) |
| 01:56.41 | debian | ..lame |
| 01:56.46 | Hyp3rion | debian, in the middle of the whole thing, a little black hill... |
| 01:56.54 | NudeNurd | heh |
| 01:56.57 | Hyp3rion | debian, launghing ICBM now? |
| 01:56.58 | XahDfIca | So I get to the first stage of Lilo's loading and at the 2nd stage it spazzes out |
| 01:57.08 | thomas_adam | dpkg, lost lilo is see this: http://www.hantslug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?LinuxHints/LostLILO |
| 01:57.08 | dpkg | okay, thomas_adam |
| 01:57.15 | NudeNurd | thomas_adam, I've already played with that, do you know of any others? |
| 01:57.17 | thomas_adam | !tell XahDfIca about lost lilo |
| 01:57.22 | phobux | http://www.deviantart.com/view/7487321/ da wird einem beim scrollen der webside ganz anders :) |
| 01:57.22 | debian | Hyp3rion: I'm at the hill right now, magnified it 100 times and still couldn't find you. |
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| 01:57.42 | XahDfIca | I'd go but than I'd have to type out all that stinkin URL, im in console w/out mouse ;) |
| 01:57.43 | thomas_adam | NudeNurd: Play with it some more, but actually RTFM this time. It does what you want, specifically: man convert |
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| 01:57.51 | thomas_adam | XahDfIca: Not my problem. |
| 01:58.14 | XahDfIca | heh |
| 01:58.20 | XahDfIca | bitchy tonight ;) |
| 01:58.34 | thomas_adam | XahDfIca: No. It's true though. |
| 01:58.38 | \Igor\ | XahDfIca: apt-get install w3m |
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| 01:58.52 | thomas_adam | \Igor\: links, _if_ you please. |
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| 01:59.20 | tempo | how do i setup smtp auth with postfix? where do i start? i tired defining the smtpd.conf but nothing yet |
| 01:59.36 | tempo | all my errors give me is fatal error which is really bad |
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| 01:59.45 | \Igor\ | NudeNurd: have you tried pornview? |
| 02:00.13 | thomas_adam | !pornview |
| 02:00.13 | dpkg | methinks pornview is an awesome porn viewer! |
| 02:00.17 | \Igor\ | thomas_adam: i don't endorse software I've never used, oh wait... |
| 02:00.26 | thomas_adam | \Igor\: ha. :) |
| 02:00.43 | NudeNurd | no, Igor |
| 02:00.44 | NudeNurd | I haven't |
| 02:00.44 | NudeNurd | heh |
| 02:01.07 | \Igor\ | NudeNurd: it claims to have the features you need |
| 02:01.10 | thomas_adam | NudeNurd: I've told you your answer. |
| 02:01.20 | thomas_adam | Moving on.... |
| 02:01.21 | thomas_adam | Next. |
| 02:01.46 | Hyp3rion | debian, Err, cuz when that was taken i was maybe at croatia :-/ |
| 02:01.51 | gravity | That nick... disturbs me |
| 02:01.56 | Hyp3rion | debian, can u c da treez? |
| 02:02.03 | Hyp3rion | debian, on that hill? |
| 02:02.14 | NudeNurd | thomas_adam, I'm looking at this software now.... no slideshow, no transitions... |
| 02:02.15 | NudeNurd | :| |
| 02:02.26 | Hyp3rion | oh wait... |
| 02:03.00 | XahDfIca | so hdb is hd1 for grub? |
| 02:03.07 | Hyp3rion | debian, u looking at the JPG!, there is a 100.000x340.000 TIFF too, 40meg or so :-/ you can see the trees on that :-) |
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| 02:03.42 | knoppix___ | help? |
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| 02:04.08 | NudeNurd | \Igor\, pornview's sourceforge page has no files, where are you looking? |
| 02:04.08 | stew | knoppix___: #knoppix |
| 02:04.08 | knoppix___ | isn't knoppix debian? |
| 02:04.12 | stew | knoppix___: nope |
| 02:04.20 | knoppix___ | why not? |
| 02:04.24 | stew | knoppix___: /topic |
| 02:04.35 | knoppix___ | but why not? |
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| 02:04.50 | thomas_adam | NudeNurd: zgv does, if you RTFM. |
| 02:04.54 | knoppix___ | i'm not an ignorant american, i do not believe what i am told untill i see why |
| 02:05.01 | thomas_adam | knoppix___: FOAD in #knoppix |
| 02:05.05 | fong | for some reason debian gives me a bad vibe man |
| 02:05.06 | knoppix___ | foad? |
| 02:05.10 | thomas_adam | !foad |
| 02:05.10 | dpkg | well, foad is "fuck off and die". Considered by many to be impolite. |
| 02:05.26 | \Igor\ | NudeNurd: apt-get install pronview, and it has a fullscreen slideshow mode too, looking at it as we speak |
| 02:05.26 | gravity | fong: Please troll somewhere else |
| 02:05.29 | knoppix___ | thomas_adam, i already did that, no one cared |
| 02:05.36 | fong | hey man its true |
| 02:05.38 | \Igor\ | NudeNurd: not sure about transitions though |
| 02:05.41 | fong | what do you want me to lie |
| 02:05.51 | thomas_adam | knoppix___: I am not surprised. So why the fuck come here then? KNOPPIX != DEBIAN. It's in the sodding /topic. |
| 02:06.01 | gravity | fong: Go somewhere else and say it. Don't troll here please. |
| 02:06.04 | \Igor\ | NudeNurd: also, apt-cache show pornview, helps |
| 02:06.09 | fong | i'm not trolling just discussing debian |
| 02:06.15 | gravity | knoppix___: Knoppix is not Debian, or else it would be named Debian. |
| 02:06.22 | thomas_adam | fong: You're trolling. |
| 02:06.24 | knoppix___ | thomas_adam, but why is it not debian? its the same file structure, it updates from debian websites, why is it not debian? |
| 02:06.26 | gravity | fong: You are trolling. You're not discussing anything. Do you have a question? |
| 02:06.35 | thomas_adam | knoppix___: Bye bye. |
| 02:06.36 | fong | how am i trolling |
| 02:06.37 | gravity | fong: If not, I'd suggest going elsewhere to troll. |
| 02:07.37 | NudeNurd | thomas_adam, man read... doesn't do what I want it to |
| 02:07.41 | fong | if i wanted to troll i'd just do what mwilson does and beat up newbies asking for help |
| 02:08.01 | thomas_adam | NudeNurd: I said "man zgv" |
| 02:08.01 | fong | i'm just discussing my impressions of the os |
| 02:08.01 | knoppix___ | i still don't get why you all say knoppix is not debian... |
| 02:08.06 | gravity | knoppix___: Is it named Debian? |
| 02:08.09 | Hyp3rion | fong, mwilson is quite nice |
| 02:08.11 | thomas_adam | fong: You're confusing the OS with its users -- two different things. |
| 02:08.56 | \Igor\ | fong: you can feel vibes? what's your resonance frequency? |
| 02:08.57 | debian | fong: hehe |
| 02:08.59 | stew | knoppix___: its a conspiracy. some evil people somehow figured out how to get knoppix != debian into the #debian topic!! |
| 02:09.03 | knoppix___ | gravity doesn't trowsers=pants? |
| 02:09.04 | Hyp3rion | debian, :-/ |
| 02:09.25 | debian | Hyp3rion: you decide not to sleep? |
| 02:09.26 | Hyp3rion | debian, Dont get that TIFF, browser swaps to hell and crashes |
| 02:09.31 | thomas_adam | trousers |
| 02:09.33 | thomas_adam | dim shit. |
| 02:09.44 | *** part/#debian fong (~me@pool-138-89-114-20.nwrk.east.verizon.net) |
| 02:09.57 | knoppix___ | thomas_adam, i though you /ignored me |
| 02:09.59 | debian | Hyp3rion: Hungary must be a very big place, it still just shows a very faint light there: http://www.irisz.hu/webcam_hun.html |
| 02:10.07 | thomas_adam | pants to me, are the things that cover your bollocks. |
| 02:10.11 | gravity | knoppix___: It's not Debian. It has different packages. It has a different name. It has different archives. It has different developers. It has different goals. It doesn't use the same mailing lists. It doesn't use the same websites. It doesn't use the same mirror network. It doesn't use the same mailing lists. |
| 02:10.18 | gravity | knoppix___: Is that a good enough answer? |
| 02:10.19 | sussudio | !pants |
| 02:10.19 | dpkg | Yes, i am wearing pants! |
| 02:10.21 | gravity | knoppix___: Or should I go on? |
| 02:10.25 | thomas_adam | knoppix___: I never said that, so why lie? |
| 02:10.30 | debian | Hyp3rion: or http://www.irisz.hu/large.html it's Budapest anyway. :) |
| 02:10.31 | Hyp3rion | debian, No. Check the boats. they are not moving. that pix is updated like every 15mins :-D |
| 02:10.37 | thomas_adam | !trolls |
| 02:10.37 | dpkg | it has been said that trolls is read this first: http://www.spiralx.co.uk/trolls.html |
| 02:10.49 | knoppix___ | thomas_adam, well i assumed since you said good bye, you were gona be rude and /ignore me |
| 02:11.16 | thomas_adam | knoppix___: That was an instruction to you to FOAD somewhere other than here. |
| 02:11.35 | Hyp3rion | debian, But actually you can see my prior girlfriend's pinktech if you zoom that bridge ;-D very interesting! |
| 02:11.36 | *** join/#debian lucas (lucas@202-45-126-237.stabat.com) |
| 02:11.38 | knoppix___ | thomas_adam, but what if i wish not to do that again? |
| 02:11.53 | stew | knoppix___: are you having fun? why dont you just /join #knoppix and be done with it |
| 02:12.00 | gravity | !tell knoppix___ about knoppixquestion |
| 02:12.06 | thomas_adam | knoppix___: then an op will eventually kickban you. Until that point we get to ridicule you as we see fit. |
| 02:12.24 | debian | Hyp3rion: this one update every 10 seconds: http://www.budapestinfo.hu/sp/webcam/ Much better. :) |
| 02:12.53 | debian | Hyp3rion: now go outside and wave. :) |
| 02:13.07 | sussudio | http://home.wanadoo.nl/sussudio/cam.jpg |
| 02:13.09 | *** join/#debian dewey (~dewey@c-67-170-90-36.client.comcast.net) |
| 02:13.15 | *** join/#debian killuats (~onin@210.16.59.2) |
| 02:13.22 | sussudio | just jumping mammals outside here. |
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| 02:13.36 | killuats | hello |
| 02:13.45 | thomas_adam | !hello |
| 02:13.46 | dpkg | HI, thomas_adam! |
| 02:13.51 | killuats | can i ask questions about linux here? |
| 02:13.55 | debian | sussudio: what's debstat link again? |
| 02:13.56 | thomas_adam | sussudio: hahahahah |
| 02:14.02 | debian | killuats: I doubt it.. |
| 02:14.05 | sussudio | !piggy |
| 02:14.05 | dpkg | Piggy logs all you do... Look at debstats.dontexist.org |
| 02:14.12 | debian | sussudio: you live in hostile place... |
| 02:14.15 | debian | thanks |
| 02:14.19 | stew | killuats: you can ask question about debian here, you can ask question about linux in #linux |
| 02:14.21 | gravity | Ride the pig Gir! |
| 02:14.22 | *** part/#debian zog-vsl (~Duncan@203-219-123-210-vic.tpgi.com.au) |
| 02:14.30 | Hyp3rion | !zowik |
| 02:14.38 | killuats | whats the alternative command for 'winipcfg /renew' in debian? |
| 02:14.44 | *** join/#debian numist (~numist@66-74-217-19.san.rr.com) |
| 02:14.55 | Hyp3rion | :-( Why do my factoids get removed every time? |
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| 02:15.00 | sussudio | killuats: say what? |
| 02:15.12 | gravity | killuats: ifdown eth0 (or whatever); ifup eth0 |
| 02:15.15 | stew | killuats: dhclient eth0 or pump -i eth0 |
| 02:15.20 | killuats | i need to renew my ipadd, on a dhcp network |
| 02:15.29 | thomas_adam | sussudio: I question your image on the stats page. :) |
| 02:15.33 | *** join/#debian mosty (mostynm@adsl-137-244.swiftdsl.com.au) |
| 02:15.47 | sussudio | :-| |
| 02:15.49 | killuats | gravity: thanks |
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| 02:16.03 | gravity | killuats: You may want to read "man interfaces" too |
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| 02:16.10 | gravity | Very useful |
| 02:16.15 | Hyp3rion | debian, ttp://www.budapestinfo.hu/sp/webcam/ <== this is a big white sheet with that missing-plugin-puzzle on it :-/ i cant see... |
| 02:16.23 | *** join/#debian exists (~zeno@dsl-196-22.zhonka.net) |
| 02:16.31 | killuats | whats the command to know my disk space in linux? |
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| 02:16.40 | stew | killuats: df |
| 02:16.41 | \Igor\ | killuats: df |
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| 02:16.54 | thomas_adam | killuats: Channel FAQ, go read. |
| 02:17.02 | thomas_adam | killuats: which implies you see /topic |
| 02:17.13 | killuats | thanks! |
| 02:17.19 | mosty | is samab broken for anyone else in sid? |
| 02:17.20 | gravity | !htod |
| 02:17.20 | dpkg | hmm... htod is qref.sf.net, newbiedoc.sf.net and http://www.tldp.org, or holy trinity of documentation |
| 02:17.28 | gravity | killuats: You'll want to check those three sites for info |
| 02:17.33 | thomas_adam | mosty: Yes, see #250515 |
| 02:17.42 | debian | Hyp3rion: it needs java. |
