| 00:00.08 | Tachoh | RTFM = read the fine manpage |
| 00:00.13 | Toastie | nono: nope |
| 00:00.14 | dimir | debuser: it's not contributed |
| 00:00.17 | zoola | g4lt: i did, its after reading that im having problems |
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| 00:00.28 | sussudio | !u |
| 00:00.28 | dpkg | Dammit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1 |
| 00:00.32 | Toastie | nono: figure out what main library it wants to remove, among those. |
| 00:00.33 | nono | Toastie: happened to noone else here? |
| 00:00.33 | zoola | as in, i must be understanding it wrong |
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| 00:00.57 | Toastie | nono: similar things happened to a lot of people here |
| 00:01.07 | tell | !fart g4lt |
| 00:01.22 | Dood_Seth | wow x86_64 gets no love from debian |
| 00:01.32 | nono | Toastie: libgal2.0-common libgnomeprint2.2-0 libgnomeprintui2.2-0 libgtkhtml3.0-4 libgtksourceview1.0-0 libgal2.0-6 |
| 00:01.47 | nono | Toastie: this is all the lib he wants to remove... |
| 00:01.57 | g4lt | !mhallsmite tell |
| 00:01.57 | sussudio | tell: do you want to get +q'ed again? |
| 00:01.57 | dpkg | Fuck tell. Fuck it in the asshole with a big rubber dick. |
| 00:02.00 | medgno | Toastie: i'm also having that problem |
| 00:02.01 | cafuego | Dood_Seth: Howso? |
| 00:02.09 | peterS | Dood_Seth: why do you so say that? |
| 00:02.10 | Toastie | nono: hm...I wonder what package wants those removed |
| 00:02.26 | Dood_Seth | cafuego: I looked at the new installer and saw non for x86_64 |
| 00:02.26 | medgno | there's a problem it seems with the newest cups update |
| 00:02.37 | nono | Toastie: libcroco2 this one was not installed and wants to be |
| 00:02.38 | thomas_adam | tell: Prick. |
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| 00:02.54 | g4lt | medgno really? could it already be in the fucking /topic, bu some ungodly chance?! |
| 00:02.57 | cafuego | Dood_Seth: Correct. The x86 installer works fine on it. Afterwatds you cna dist-upgrade to x86-86 packages. |
| 00:03.06 | nono | Toastie: after, there is some libgtk that wants to be upgraded |
| 00:03.18 | peterS | cafuego: that works? I thought x86-64 used a pure 64-bit ABI |
| 00:03.20 | thebsd | I have a file in a lost+found directory. How do I find out where this file is from? |
| 00:03.25 | Dood_Seth | cafuego: ahhhhh very interesting |
| 00:03.26 | peterS | cafuego: I mean, the debian port |
| 00:03.34 | medgno | g4lt: well, you know, that seems like it!!!! (sorry, it's so long i don't see too much of it) |
| 00:03.34 | cafuego | Dood_Seth: ... the installer itself is still under development afaik - or maybe thery're working on multiarch apckages. |
| 00:03.36 | nono | someone tried pearpc ? |
| 00:03.37 | Dood_Seth | peterS: nah .. x86_64 is 32 and 64 |
| 00:03.40 | Troll | g4lt: I've a problem with cups and samba and it doesn't work, I get login and I cannot see mouse. |
| 00:03.41 | peterS | Dood_Seth: I know that |
| 00:03.44 | peterS | Dood_Seth: I'm saying, the debian port |
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| 00:04.10 | zoola | !fuck g4lt |
| 00:04.10 | Toastie | nono: from which version to which version? |
| 00:04.16 | zoola | !fuck dpkg |
| 00:04.16 | Troll | hehehe |
| 00:04.17 | cafuego | peterS: No, that's ia64, intel's lame attempt. |
| 00:04.19 | zoola | !fuck tell |
| 00:04.23 | cafuego | peterS: the amd version is fully backwards compatible. |
| 00:04.23 | zoola | !fuck cafuego |
| 00:04.25 | Dood_Seth | cafuego: that gives me hope .. thank you .. I'm looking to build a dual athlon with SATA raid and I wanna run debian |
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| 00:04.40 | peterS | cafuego: I know the hardware is. I didn't know debian was going the bi-arch route |
| 00:04.45 | g4lt | thomas_adam so there! |
| 00:04.55 | thomas_adam | g4lt: heh |
| 00:05.00 | peterS | cafuego: (i.e. having libraries installed in both 32-bit and 64-bit versions simultaneously) |
| 00:05.02 | cafuego | Dood_Seth: Your biggest problem will be the sata support. |
| 00:05.03 | sussudio | peterS: wazzaaaaa with da schnizzle, bi-aaaarch? |
| 00:05.06 | cafuego | peterS: Well. |
| 00:05.08 | peterS | sussudio: hehe |
| 00:05.08 | zatriz | can anyone tell me how I can configure linux/pam to do two-factor authentication (password + ssl x.509 certificates) |
| 00:05.09 | kzar | peterS: ok i copied the kernel-image-2.4.18-bf2.4 over by cd and tried to install it, but lilo fails saying that /initrd.img doesnt exist (you know it always tells you to add that line to /etc/lilo.conf) |
| 00:05.17 | Dood_Seth | cafuego: 3ware RAID 5 ? |
| 00:05.25 | cafuego | peterS: I *think* I *maybe* read something that *possibly* indicated such an idea... |
| 00:05.32 | peterS | kzar: did you mean 2.4.18-bf2.4 or 2.4.18-1-686 ? |
| 00:05.34 | cafuego | Dood_Seth: That should be OK then. |
| 00:05.34 | peterS | kzar: I meant the latter |
| 00:05.45 | nono | Toastie: have no ide |
| 00:05.45 | nono | a |
| 00:05.51 | Dood_Seth | cafuego: I'm motivated and hopeful .. thank you |
| 00:05.54 | kzar | peterS: i couldnt find the latter , the one i got was the closest i could find |
| 00:06.10 | peterS | kzar: it might have been called 2.4.18-686 on woody, as opposed to 2.4.18-1-686 |
| 00:06.15 | cafuego | Dood_Seth: athlon isn't 64 bit btw |
| 00:06.16 | cafuego | Dood_Seth: did you mean athlon64? :-) |
| 00:06.20 | Toastie | nono: apt-cache show <the-package-that-wants-to-be-upgraded> |
| 00:06.22 | cafuego | or opteron? |
| 00:06.41 | Dood_Seth | cafuego: yah ... but I want dual opteron and my laptop is amd64 |
| 00:06.45 | Toastie | nono: I'm sure there's a smarter way of doing this, though. I'd suggest you wait with the upgrade and ask the gods here later. |
| 00:07.05 | cafuego | Dood_Seth: bah, I don't like you. |
| 00:07.06 | debuser | how about gtk-gnutella? |
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| 00:07.12 | debuser | is that popular |
| 00:07.13 | debuser | ? |
| 00:07.19 | Dood_Seth | cafuego: I'm sorry you feel that way |
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| 00:07.35 | cafuego | I would like you if you gave me your laptop. |
| 00:07.36 | kzar | peterS: i did apt-cache search 2.4.18 and it only finds the image i installed, the headers for it and some patches |
| 00:07.56 | peterS | !find kernel-image-2.4.18 woody |
| 00:07.58 | dpkg | Debian Package Listing of 'kernel-image-2.4.18' (7 shown): kernel-image-2.4.18-386 ;; kernel-image-2.4.18-586tsc ;; kernel-image-2.4.18-686 ;; kernel-image-2.4.18-686-smp ;; kernel-image-2.4.18-bf2.4 ;; kernel-image-2.4.18-k6 ;; kernel-image-2.4.18-k7. |
| 00:07.58 | green-ears | debuser: bittorrent may not work yet in sarge ? but from the debian weekly new it being work on |
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| 00:08.11 | peterS | kzar: it exists all right - see what <dpkg> just said |
| 00:08.11 | nono | Toastie: libgtk2.0-0 Version: 2.4.1-3 Replaces: libgtk2.0-0png3 |
| 00:08.14 | peterS | kzar: kernel-image-2.4.18-686 |
| 00:08.15 | Dood_Seth | cafuego: nahh you have no need for 4 usb ports, internal media reader, firewire , dvd burner and 15" widescreen |
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| 00:08.24 | kzar | peterS: well the pc im fiding it with is on unstable, does that matter? |
| 00:08.25 | knoppix | hola |
| 00:08.37 | peterS | kzar: yes, that matters. you want a package from stable. |
| 00:08.41 | cafuego | Dood_Seth: Not for the media reader no, the rest, I do. |
| 00:08.41 | tell | debuser : with gift u can use multiple networks |
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| 00:08.54 | kzar | peterS: so how can i get it then? i dont have any other pcs running stable |
| 00:09.01 | tell | debuser : ie gnutella AND kazaa |
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| 00:09.23 | Dood_Seth | cafuego: I think the 512 of DDR333 would be overkill for you and the internal 802.11 a/b/g |
| 00:09.26 | Justin | !+pdo |
| 00:09.26 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, pdo is http://packages.debian.org/ - here you can search for debian packages and their contents. Pretty Damned Obvious, isn't it? |
| 00:09.35 | peterS | kzar: download http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/k/kernel-image-2.4.18-i386/kernel-image-2.4.18-686_2.4.18-5_i386.deb |
| 00:09.44 | tell | debuser : the kazaa-network is by far the largest |
| 00:09.50 | peterS | !depends kernel-image-2.4.18-686 woody |
| 00:09.52 | dpkg | kernel-image-2.4.18-686: depends on initrd-tools (>= 0.1.21), fileutils (>= 4.0), modutils (>= 2.3.12) |
| 00:09.53 | Justin | only 512? i've had 512M of ram for 2 years, how the hell can you make a NEW computer that has only that much? :-P |
| 00:09.54 | cafuego | Dood_Seth: Ha! I'm afraid I have more ram than that in mine <heh> |
| 00:10.21 | kzar | peterS: gotya |
| 00:10.23 | Dood_Seth | cafuego: wow more than 512 DDR333 ... you do video editing ? |
| 00:10.23 | tummen | how do you set up so you get color in your shell? |
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| 00:10.41 | g4lt | tummen paint your screen |
| 00:10.44 | peterS | kzar: actually... |
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| 00:10.54 | peterS | kzar: get http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/k/kernel-image-2.4.18-1-i386/kernel-headers-2.4.18-1-686_2.4.18-13_i386.deb |
| 00:11.05 | peterS | kzar: that's got security updates applied to it, which the other one doesn't |
| 00:11.07 | tummen | shrug.. |
| 00:11.10 | tell | tummen : ls |
| 00:11.22 | kzar | peterS: well im going to be upgrading right away anyway so it doesnt amtter does it? |
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| 00:11.44 | tummen | dont have any color in that...debian dont support it? |
| 00:11.45 | kzar | (i only say because im half way through downloading it ) |
| 00:11.51 | tummen | think i had it on slack many years ago |
| 00:11.53 | peterS | kzar: right, guess it doesn't matter |
| 00:12.03 | tjs | what is the default install image called? 'install' ? |
| 00:12.10 | Dood_Seth | tummen: uncomment eval `dircolors -b` in your .bashrc |
| 00:12.12 | rich_ | tummen edit ~/.bashrc |
| 00:12.12 | tell | tummen: deprecated |
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| 00:12.24 | tummen | tnx |
| 00:12.34 | peterS | kzar: also pick up http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/i/initrd-tools/initrd-tools_0.1.32woody.5_all.deb |
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| 00:12.38 | Dood_Seth | tummen: uncomment alias ls='ls --color=auto' |
| 00:12.40 | peterS | kzar: you'll need that, if you don't already have it installed |
| 00:12.51 | cafuego | Dood_Seth: http://alioth.debian.org/projects/debian-amd64/ |
| 00:13.00 | kzar | peterS: tah, just saved me a cd |
| 00:13.08 | kzar | http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/i/initrd-tools/initrd-tool |
| 00:13.09 | kzar | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:13.13 | kzar | oops wrong click |
| 00:13.14 | kzar | sorry |
| 00:13.16 | peterS | !depends initrd-tools woody |
| 00:13.18 | dpkg | initrd-tools: depends on cpio, cramfsprogs, dash | ash, modutils (>= 2.3.13), util-linux (>= 2.11b-3) |
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| 00:13.31 | g4lt | kzar we know, now apologize |
| 00:13.33 | peterS | kzar: see dpkg's output here ^^^ - you might need to pull down those packages too |
| 00:13.35 | tjs | got the SILO boot prompt from the install disk, I think the ramdisk issues are related to the fact that I have 8gig of ram, the docs suggest passing mem=512m to the kernel |
| 00:14.14 | peterS | kzar: specifically: cpio, ash and cramfsprogs. see http://packages.debian.org/ for debian stable downloads of those |
| 00:14.25 | kzar | ok |
| 00:14.39 | tjs | but boot: install mem=512m gives: Your imagename 'install' and arguments 'mem=512m' have either wrong syntax, or describe a label which is not preset in silo.conf |
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| 00:15.01 | cafuego | peterS: Hmmyeah, there are 'biarch' and 'multiarch' directories on alioth. |
| 00:15.06 | tjs | is there any way to see what labels -are- in silo.conf formthe boot prompt? |
| 00:15.25 | switcht | is there any website or anything that can tell me what the compile time flags for a binary .deb from one of the main apt sources is? |
| 00:15.31 | peterS | cafuego: I know people are talking about this stuff. debconf even has a talk and BOF about it. but I didn't think x86-64 was actually doing it right now |
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| 00:15.46 | Dood_Seth | cafuego: tanks |
| 00:15.47 | tummen | heh where is the bashrc at? |
| 00:15.53 | peterS | switcht: no. you have to download the source and read 'debian/rules' for yourself |
| 00:15.58 | Dood_Seth | tummen: its .bashrc |
| 00:16.06 | Dood_Seth | tummen: /home/tummen |
| 00:16.06 | cafuego | Dood_Seth: The 'project home' link on that page links to your new sources.list entry. |
| 00:16.15 | Dood_Seth | cafuego: kewl |
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| 00:16.43 | tummen | ah ok..tnx for the help..ill try it |
| 00:17.07 | Dood_Seth | tummen: ls -a shows you the .* files (hidden files) |
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| 00:17.24 | tummen | ah thats why i didnt see it...tnx for info |
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| 00:17.37 | guestish | someone just compiled the latest galeon in unstable against gnome 2.6.0 instead of gnome 2.4 |
| 00:17.49 | switcht | I was poking around the source package and didnt see any defaults (heh sorry I'm a bsd guy [ports4life]) so all that's in the rules |
| 00:17.54 | knoppix | ioioio |
| 00:17.57 | switcht | is there any way to snag a soruce package without root? |
| 00:18.00 | medgno | guestish: i think that's because unstable is being upped to gnome 2.6 |
| 00:18.00 | Dood_Seth | <<== still running 2.2 |
| 00:18.08 | guestish | medgno: really? what happened to the sarge problem? |
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| 00:18.20 | guestish | switcht: apt-get source package |
| 00:18.23 | peterS | guestish: yeah, you have to hold galeon and galeon-common for a few days |
| 00:18.32 | peterS | guestish: gnome 2.6 *is* on its way into unstable |
| 00:18.42 | guestish | well i use the original mozilla anyways :) |
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| 00:18.55 | medgno | does anyone know when the kdelibs will be updated for the new cups? |
| 00:18.56 | tummen | those were already uncommented...hrm |
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| 00:19.24 | switcht | Guerin-Zzz: duh i should have tried it, just assumed i'd need it. MAny thanks :) |
| 00:19.24 | debuser | tell, what's the kazaa plugin package called? |
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