| 00:00.02 | abrotman | and my first init |
| 00:00.04 | bsims | Zap-W: hrm check somewhere in the bowls of /etc? |
| 00:00.08 | GomGom | dpkg -L capplets | grep daemon | wc -l == 0 |
| 00:00.09 | dpkg | grep daemon |
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| 00:00.25 | abrotman | RichiH: and its a fairly uncommon last name .. so its a decent username to use |
| 00:00.25 | RichiH | abrotman: ah, ok :) |
| 00:00.27 | GomGom | i guess something is wrong with capplets |
| 00:00.28 | bsims | er bowels |
| 00:00.39 | abrotman | RichiH: needless to say .. im not creative :) |
| 00:00.39 | GomGom | it doesn't ship gnome-settings-daemon anymore |
| 00:00.52 | RichiH | abrotman: so i will have to live with the urge to rename you to twobrotman, i guess :) |
| 00:00.54 | StuckMojo | odd. it's still installed |
| 00:00.56 | StuckMojo | oops |
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| 00:01.19 | cafuego | beep |
| 00:01.27 | eeyore- | GomGom: capplets conflicts with acme, hmmm .... maybe there's a connection :) |
| 00:01.28 | GomGom | is there a debian gnome channel somewhere ? |
| 00:01.30 | bsims | Ewww Emacs IRC? why not it does everything else... except edit files |
| 00:01.37 | abrotman | RichiH: you can if you want :) |
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| 00:01.49 | eeyore- | GomGom: and sid's gnome 2.6 can't start gnome-settings-daemon, lol :) |
| 00:01.49 | abrotman | RichiH: its better than using my middle name to come up with a nickname |
| 00:01.51 | RichiH | abrotman: don't ask me how i can up with that, i dunno. but that idea is in my head since i first saw your nick ages go |
| 00:02.08 | eeyore- | GomGom: hey, where's gnome-settings-daemon in pre-gnome2.6 sid? |
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| 00:02.12 | abrotman | RichiH: its ok .. ill let you live today |
| 00:02.13 | GomGom | eeyore-: i am using SID, i don't have this program anymore, so sure it can't start |
| 00:02.23 | RichiH | abrotman: oh thank you, master |
| 00:02.30 | abrotman | heh |
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| 00:02.32 | beta3 | hola |
| 00:02.34 | cafuego | ^H^H |
| 00:02.38 | GomGom | eeyore-: it's supposed to be shipped in capplets package, but it is missing from it |
| 00:02.53 | beta3 | cafuego: I am second hit on google searching for 'Dan Weber' |
| 00:02.53 | abrotman | huh? |
| 00:02.55 | asteriskrox | what do I need to use the usb mouse on the console? besides gpm |
| 00:03.02 | abrotman | beta3: im first |
| 00:03.02 | beta3 | !scrape google for Dan Weber |
| 00:03.03 | cafuego | beta3: search for 'cafuego' |
| 00:03.14 | dpkg | Google says "Dan Weber" is at http://www.caps.ou.edu/~dweber/ or http://discoversheridan.com/forums/Locating_People/posts/37.html or http://lists.progeny.com/archive/pgi-workers/200311/msg00008.html or http://www.bellarmineprep.org/award051602.pdf or http://www.Google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=related:www.dan-weber.com/ or http://www.stealwheels.com/gal16.htm [994,000 results] |
| 00:03.30 | abrotman | beta3: do me .. do me! |
| 00:03.31 | eeyore- | GomGom: maybe that's what's causing my/our breakage ;-) |
| 00:03.42 | beta3 | wtf? |
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| 00:03.49 | beta3 | I just googled, I showed up second |
| 00:03.51 | GomGom | eeyore-: nothing in incoming.debian.org |
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| 00:04.00 | beta3 | cafuego: sdms? |
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| 00:04.06 | GomGom | eeyore-: and strange bug report for capplets |
| 00:04.07 | simonrvn | capplets, capplets-data |
| 00:04.09 | abrotman | oh shit .. theres an elephant in the room |
| 00:04.14 | eeyore- | GomGom: is it possible to be in another package now? |
| 00:04.27 | GomGom | eeyore-: i doubt |
| 00:04.33 | abrotman | use p.d.o to look for a file that belongs to it |
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| 00:04.36 | abrotman | or ask dpkg |
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| 00:04.53 | cafuego | how the fuck did I manage to get into the photoseek changelog? |
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| 00:05.08 | cafuego | beta3: amongst other things |
| 00:05.26 | abrotman | cafuego: GAMP? |
| 00:05.39 | simonrvn | GIMP |
| 00:05.44 | abrotman | !gamp |
| 00:05.45 | dpkg | Gay Asian Midget Pr0n! - http://gamp.mine.nu |
| 00:05.50 | simonrvn | !gimp |
| 00:05.51 | dpkg | i guess gimp is IF YOU WANT 2.0, INSTALL gimp1.3 IN SID! Even if it's called gimp 1.3, it's actually gimp2.0 pre4. Gay Indian Midget Pr0n. |
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| 00:05.54 | eeyore- | GomGom: /usr/lib/control-center/gnome-settings-daemon |
| 00:06.03 | abrotman | heh |
| 00:06.04 | beta3 | cafuego: what is it? |
| 00:06.08 | cafuego | beta3: if you google for my name, the last hit on page #2 is the only one that's not me |
| 00:06.24 | cafuego | SDMS is an open-source system that allows you to store any document in a database via a bunch of webpages. |
| 00:06.36 | simonrvn | cafuego: neato |
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| 00:06.53 | abrotman | cafuego: does it work? |
| 00:07.01 | cafuego | abrotman: Of course it works :-P |
| 00:07.09 | simonrvn | heh heh |
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| 00:07.19 | beta3 | cafuego: i was hoping it was a system to help write nroff :( |
| 00:07.22 | abrotman | cafuego: sdms.cafuego.net can't be found |
| 00:07.24 | neiljp_ | nice original domain name ;) |
| 00:07.28 | abrotman | oh .. now it is .. |
| 00:07.30 | abrotman | !screw comcast |
| 00:07.49 | cafuego | abrotman: Hmm, my dns server may or may not be under some load. |
| 00:07.50 | eeyore- | simonrvn: whoops, looks like capplets 2.6.1-2 is causing a lot of griefs :) |
| 00:07.52 | GomGom | eeyore-: damn i missed it, thx |
| 00:08.02 | abrotman | cafuego: you need a new dns server |
| 00:08.03 | GomGom | eeyore-: but it's no help, itcrashes :) |
| 00:08.06 | simonrvn | eeyore-: yeh, i held a bunch of gnome stuff today |
| 00:08.23 | cafuego | abrotman: I think a new data uplink, myself. |
| 00:08.39 | abrotman | oh .. and in php |
| 00:08.41 | abrotman | yay |
| 00:09.20 | asteriskrox | !fuck comcast |
| 00:09.28 | pingouinn | !fuck me |
| 00:09.34 | pingouinn | ouch |
| 00:09.36 | cafuego | Oh now *this* is freaky |
| 00:09.39 | abrotman | cafuego: mysql only? |
| 00:09.40 | eeyore- | wait a minute!!! #245848 existed for 31 days (gnome-settings-daemon fails to start) and capplets 2.6.1-2 was pushed to sid? |
| 00:09.54 | daniel_london82 | did anybody experienced a crash when the installer of sarge wanted to install grub? |
| 00:09.56 | beta3 | cafuego: does it do anything else besides hold documents in a sql db? |
| 00:10.03 | cafuego | abrotman: there is a pgsql version someone did |
| 00:10.04 | StuckMojo | i did a dist-upgrade today and clobbered gnome |
| 00:10.05 | simonrvn | eeyore-: it was working here |
| 00:10.14 | StuckMojo | apparently i have part of 2.6 now... |
| 00:10.14 | abrotman | cafuego: no DB abstraction or PEAR usage? |
| 00:10.16 | cafuego | beta3: it allows you to download them or update them. |
| 00:10.25 | beta3 | cafuego: interesting |
| 00:10.28 | cafuego | abrotman: No, just bloated overhead. |
| 00:10.29 | simonrvn | !experimental |
| 00:10.29 | dpkg | experimental is probably If you want to use some certain packages in experimental, you need first a sources.list line of 'deb http://debian.mirror/debian/ ../project/experimental main', then 'Package: *', 'Pin: release a=experimental', 'Pin-Priority: 1001' in /etc/apt/preferences. Remember, it's hard to get to for a reason! |
| 00:10.31 | eeyore- | ok guys, /topic update time ;-) |
| 00:10.33 | StuckMojo | is there any way to undo this? |
| 00:10.47 | StuckMojo | or should i just wait a couple days for the packages to sort themselves out |
| 00:10.47 | abrotman | cafuego: but . uhm .. i dont want to use mysql |
| 00:10.49 | eeyore- | StuckMojo: not easily, welcome to the club |
| 00:10.50 | beta3 | cafuego: uuencoded them in the db? |
| 00:10.56 | StuckMojo | eeyore- lol |
| 00:10.57 | simonrvn | eeyore-: do it yourself :) |
| 00:10.59 | abrotman | base64_encode! |
| 00:11.00 | beta3 | cafuego: or base64ed even :) |
| 00:11.04 | cafuego | beta3: Uh, yeah I think so. |
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| 00:11.06 | StuckMojo | eeyore- do you think it will straighten itself out? |
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| 00:11.12 | eeyore- | StuckMojo: undoubtedly |
| 00:11.16 | StuckMojo | i.e. |
| 00:11.19 | StuckMojo | ah, cool |
| 00:11.30 | abrotman | cafuego: it looks nice .. but i wouldn't trust docs to mysql |
| 00:11.37 | cafuego | abrotman: the 'resources's ection on www.vitta.org.au is a far more advances version of the system |
| 00:11.38 | StuckMojo | stuff still works, just the fonts and icons a screwy |
| 00:11.41 | beta3 | cafuego: how long did it take to write your blog application |
| 00:11.50 | cafuego | beta3: half a day |
| 00:11.51 | eeyore- | i like #251127 |
| 00:12.23 | beta3 | cafuego: heh, I don't know php, how are you updating it? |
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| 00:12.27 | simonrvn | "keayborad" |
| 00:12.41 | cafuego | beta3: the blog or the software? |
| 00:12.45 | beta3 | cafuego: blog |
| 00:13.01 | eeyore- | simonrvn: well, his keyboard didn't work ... what did you expect him to say? :-) |
| 00:13.04 | cafuego | beta3: I click 'login' at which point i get lots of additional options. |
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| 00:13.31 | simonrvn | eeyore-: that's a new bug. i got that too. switched my kbd layout, and it stopped bitching |
| 00:13.50 | eeyore- | simonrvn: sorta kinda reminds me of those "PS/2 Keyboard Error, Press F1 to continue or any other key to enter BIOS" |
| 00:14.01 | cafuego | Oh look, I found my cousin's family tree online. Goes back to 1640. |
| 00:14.07 | beta3 | cafuego: are you basing it around a blog template |
| 00:14.08 | simonrvn | eeyore-: yeh... |
| 00:14.14 | phil-j | Anyone want to hear my war story about getting PCMCIA working on a Packard Bell laptop? |
| 00:14.21 | cafuego | beta3: No. |
| 00:14.23 | simonrvn | cafuego: only? |
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| 00:14.39 | simonrvn | cafuego: or is that the tree itself? |
| 00:14.42 | cafuego | simonrvn: yeah well :-) |
| 00:14.53 | eeyore- | simonrvn: esp. love the HP netserver's error, "Keyboard not detected. Press DEL to enter bios or any other key to continue" (so i have to plug in a friggin' keyboard to boot?) |
| 00:14.54 | beta3 | cafuego: god damn, you php coders |
| 00:14.56 | simonrvn | cafuego: my second to you i meant the diagram |
| 00:15.15 | asteriskrox | PHP PEAR may rock, but Perl dbi is divine |
| 00:15.19 | simonrvn | eeyore-: hehehe |
| 00:15.31 | beta3 | bbl |
| 00:15.56 | phil-j | simonrvn: To enable no-keyboard booting you change the BIOS option Halt On to All, But Keyboard. |
| 00:16.06 | simonrvn | phil-j: i know |
| 00:16.12 | phil-j | ook |
| 00:16.15 | cafuego | simonrvn: it's a list with referral numbers. It starts in 1640 at I.1 and my cousin is at X.30. Now I note some guy i went to school with is listed as offspring under X.38 |
| 00:16.16 | simonrvn | :) |
| 00:16.29 | simonrvn | cafuego: heh |
| 00:17.02 | Amarande | phil-j: can't be any worse than the time I tried to manually upgrade a libc5 based Slack install to glibc |
| 00:17.05 | simonrvn | afk, coffee time |
| 00:17.21 | thomas_adam | simonrvn: Milk, no sugar, ta. |
| 00:17.26 | Amarande | though, i came to really -hate- glibc after a while |
| 00:17.28 | abrotman | eeyore-: almost all computerse do that .. but those netservers suck .. god damn agp busted shit |
| 00:17.35 | Amarande | mostly because it seems like every new glibc minor breaks irc |
| 00:17.37 | Amarande | er, ircd |
| 00:17.46 | cafuego | simonrvn: Ah! Cousin continues at X1.22 with 3 kids of his own. |
| 00:17.52 | eeyore- | i've got to go. good night, guys |
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| 00:17.57 | Amarande | when you beta test several forms of ircd, you dont want libc upgrades to keep breaking it :P |
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| 00:19.03 | thomas_adam | simonrvn: black? ewwww |
| 00:19.09 | cafuego | Amarande: The trick is to port your apps back to libc5. Works fine. |
| 00:19.14 | thomas_adam | simonrvn: :) |
| 00:19.14 | phil-j | Amarande: I was trying to set up a PCMCIA modem on a laptop with no serial or parallel port. I needed to comment out "exclude IRQs 3, 4 and 7" from /etc/pcmcia/config.opts, because the out-of-the-box configuration assumes that there are serial ports and a parallel port. |
| 00:19.19 | cafuego | My espresso machine is back! And fixed! |
| 00:19.24 | simonrvn | cafuego: yay |
| 00:19.33 | cafuego | only cost $250 :-( |
| 00:19.36 | thomas_adam | Viddy: you've been reading a Clockwork Orange I see. |
| 00:19.38 | simonrvn | ooow |
| 00:19.47 | abrotman | cafuego: how much is a new one? |
| 00:19.54 | cafuego | abrotman: $500 |
| 00:20.07 | Viddy | actually, no |
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| 00:20.15 | simonrvn | i want my clock applet back :( |
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| 00:20.26 | cafuego | They obviously didn't adhere to their 'repairs over $200 will be confirmed via phone' policy. |
| 00:20.34 | simonrvn | meh Details: Failed to resolve, or extend '!prefs_key=/apps/panel/profiles/default/applets/applet_15/prefs;background=none:;orient=down;size=small;locked_down=false |
| 00:20.37 | abrotman | i want my mtv back .. now its just damn shows |
| 00:20.38 | cafuego | otoh, I *do* have pretty much a 100% new machine anyway |
| 00:20.39 | phil-j | Amarande: What happened when you tried to upgrade to glibc? |
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| 00:20.46 | Viddy | ive got the movie burnt onto cdr somewhere, but it scared me, so i didnt watch it :) |
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| 00:21.25 | Amarande | phil-j: well, let's see, for one, it didnt install right, since a lot of stuff wouldn't compile |
| 00:21.46 | Amarande | also, i think there were a lot of problems with libraries, since i was never sure which libraries had to be recompiled in which order |
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| 00:21.50 | Amarande | then there was the time i tried to move the ld.so |
| 00:21.51 | Amarande | heh |
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| 00:22.18 | cafuego | Hmm, someone with MY name lives in Calgary. |
| 00:22.19 | cafuego | simonrvn: Go and kill them. |
| 00:22.27 | simonrvn | cafuego: haha |
| 00:22.33 | flugh | is my kde clock always setting itself to Berlin just me forgetting how to configure my clock(kde) after all these years? |
| 00:22.36 | simonrvn | cafuego: what *is* your name? |
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| 00:22.47 | cafuego | simonrvn: 'Peter Lieverdink' |
| 00:22.57 | eeyore- | hey, i switched to another keyboard layout and gnome-settings-daemon is kinda sorta running :-) |
| 00:23.00 | phil-j | Amarande: Because libc is the dependency to rule them all? |
| 00:23.07 | eeyore- | just thought you wanted to know |
| 00:23.07 | simonrvn | cafuego: is that "lee", or "lie"? |
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| 00:23.11 | cafuego | The bastard got married in 1996 |
| 00:23.20 | flugh | and in the shared .so bind them? |
| 00:23.26 | cafuego | simonrvn: 'lie', but pronounced as 'lee' by you lot. |
| 00:23.32 | phil-j | LOL. |
| 00:23.38 | jsubl2 | having trouble with mozilla addressbok and kaddressbook query ldap. any ideas or doc pointers |
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| 00:23.55 | simonrvn | jsubl2: man ldapsearch |
| 00:23.57 | phil-j | jsubl2: You mean, you have a real LDAP server? |
| 00:24.02 | jsubl2 | at work |
| 00:24.20 | simonrvn | set up /etc/ldap/ldap.conf |
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| 00:24.38 | simonrvn | or make an ~/.ldaprc |
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| 00:24.50 | jsubl2 | I wonder what package i need to have that man page. apt-cache did not find anything |
| 00:25.00 | simonrvn | ldap-utils |
| 00:25.10 | jsubl2 | okay thanks |
| 00:25.15 | jsubl2 | will install and retry |
| 00:25.22 | abrotman | jsubl2: mozilla.org .... irc.mozilla.org |
| 00:25.23 | phil-j | jsubl2: install apt-file |
| 00:25.30 | jsubl2 | ok |
| 00:25.47 | phil-j | jsubl2: apt-file lets you find a package based on its file contents. |
| 00:25.52 | simonrvn | ok, xclock it is for now |
| 00:25.56 | jsubl2 | no irc at work. so got to research at home |
| 00:26.05 | jsubl2 | ahhh |
| 00:26.12 | phil-j | I got fired for IRC at work. |
| 00:26.18 | abrotman | whoa |
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| 00:26.22 | dave007 | is there anyway of removing xdm without removing x-window-system? |
| 00:26.29 | abrotman | !tell w0rf about root |
| 00:26.30 | simonrvn | @tell w0rf -about root |
| 00:26.32 | phil-j | It wasn't my fault. People just kept saying such funny things. |
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| 00:26.35 | simonrvn | wham bam |
| 00:26.43 | abrotman | simonrvn: i guess he knows now :) |
| 00:26.50 | SpinX | hmm guys |
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| 00:27.02 | simonrvn | dave007: x-window-system is a meta-package. who cares |
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| 00:27.09 | SpinX | how would I change my IP?(dhcp) without the lease time..I wanna change my current IP. |
| 00:27.15 | simonrvn | dave007: your x install won't disappear if it goes |
| 00:27.28 | dave007 | simonrvn, ok, thanks! |
| 00:27.31 | phil-j | dave007: Try installing gdm or kdm, then remove xdm. |
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| 00:28.06 | Jondab | hi all |
| 00:28.16 | Jondab | is there any way to ping through a proxy server? |
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| 00:28.27 | w0rf | this better? |
| 00:28.31 | simonrvn | :) |
| 00:28.32 | abrotman | w0rf: yes |
| 00:28.32 | cafuego | yes, make its firewall pass on icmp. |
| 00:28.33 | w0rf | also, how did u know i was on root ? |
| 00:28.42 | cafuego | w0rf: voodoo |
| 00:28.45 | abrotman | w0rf: watch when people come in here |
| 00:28.46 | simonrvn | w0rf: your user name, and the bot |
| 00:28.57 | phil-j | dave007: dpkg -p xdm |
| 00:29.01 | Jondab | cafuego: aha. ok. but will the "ping" command accept a firewall gateway argument? |
| 00:29.02 | w0rf | k well |
| 00:29.02 | simonrvn | -P |
| 00:29.04 | abrotman | w0rf: it will say like "w0rf (~root@CPE-203-51-171-202.vic.bigpond.net.au) has joined #debian" |
| 00:29.05 | w0rf | Hyp3rion u there? |
| 00:29.10 | mdh | w0rf: #debian 0wnz j00 |
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| 00:29.16 | w0rf | ohhhh |
| 00:29.17 | cafuego | Not that i want to sound disparaging, but you know, bigpond is the australian rima-tde.net |
| 00:29.18 | simonrvn | w0rf: pwn3d |
| 00:29.19 | Hyp3rion | w0rf, yup |
| 00:29.33 | simonrvn | cafuego: tell me about it.... |
| 00:29.33 | w0rf | um, what wsa to command again |
| 00:29.37 | w0rf | to install sid? |
| 00:29.39 | tam | is there a way to work out a directory size using ftp? i know size displays the file size |
| 00:29.43 | w0rf | i canceled it to quickly install shh |
| 00:29.51 | w0rf | ssh |
| 00:30.04 | simonrvn | cafuego: 1/3 of my spam is from there. i'm >< this close on blacklisting them from here |
| 00:30.16 | abrotman | w0rf: /msg dpkg stable->unstable |
| 00:30.25 | w0rf | no that ;/ |
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| 00:30.29 | leonel | It makes no sense : I have a Dell Gx270 Sagre installs fine take /boot/config-2.4.24 to /usr/src/linux/.config then make-kpkg kernel-image --initrd then dpkg -i kernel-image then reboot and doesn't boot hangs trying to mount / |
| 00:30.30 | cafuego | simonrvn: from bigpond cable users? Yeah, they're in the RBLs |
| 00:30.31 | w0rf | Hyp3rion knows what im saying :) |
| 00:30.31 | leonel | any clue ? |
| 00:30.33 | Hyp3rion | w0rf, apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 00:30.38 | w0rf | ta |
| 00:30.40 | phil-j | simonrvn: There is an LDAP-HOWTO and an LDAP-Implementation-HOWTO. |
| 00:30.45 | w0rf | bye :) |
| 00:30.49 | simonrvn | phil-j: i know :) |
| 00:30.50 | Hyp3rion | :-D |
| 00:31.02 | Hyp3rion | w0rf, hurry! skool! |
| 00:31.08 | Hyp3rion | oh quit. |
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| 00:31.11 | dave007 | phil-j, thanks |
| 00:31.13 | simonrvn | phil-j: http://howto.aphroland.de/HOWTO/LDAP |
| 00:31.15 | BoffQ | during boot it yells about about 'Loading the saved state of the serial devices' which it naturally can't find as I haven't compiled any support for the serial port. How can I turn it off? |
| 00:31.17 | dumitru | hi! any known new bug with keymap in sid? I just did an dist-upgrade and now when Caps Lock is on, no matter what key I press on the screen it appears the character which is located on the keyboard right to the one I invoked |
| 00:31.28 | phil-j | simonrvn: Is Netscape Address Book mentioned in your copy of the HOWTO? |
| 00:31.46 | thebug | dumitru: BTS |
| 00:31.49 | abrotman | dumitru: bts |
| 00:31.51 | simonrvn | phil-j: you mean installed? |
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| 00:33.15 | w0rf | lol i forgot the command |
| 00:33.17 | w0rf | ill write it down |
| 00:33.19 | w0rf | apt-get ??? |
| 00:33.37 | Weeble | <Hyp3rion> w0rf, apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 00:33.38 | mentor | w0rf: man apt-get |
| 00:33.40 | w0rf | ty. |
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| 00:33.54 | phil-j | simonrvn: In your HOWTO, does it say "Configuring Netscape Navigator: The next step is to configure |
| 00:33.54 | phil-j | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:33.55 | abrotman | apt-get update;apt-get -u dist-upgrade |
| 00:33.59 | Hyp3rion | hehe |
| 00:34.20 | simonrvn | phil-j: yes |
| 00:34.24 | w0rf | Hyp3rion use the one u said or abrotman said? |
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| 00:34.33 | phil-j | simonrvn: And it still doesn't work? |
| 00:34.41 | abrotman | dont blame me .. im just a poor squirrel |
| 00:34.42 | simonrvn | phil-j: wait |
| 00:34.43 | w0rf | woah madness |
| 00:34.46 | Hyp3rion | w0rf, you already did apt-get update, but both are good. |
| 00:34.52 | w0rf | ok |
| 00:34.54 | w0rf | g0ne ;) |
| 00:34.58 | simonrvn | phil-j: which page? |
| 00:35.09 | ACORN-FROM-HELL | errrr... I can't get sound to work with my user account, can someone help me please? |
| 00:35.23 | abrotman | !tell ACORN-FROM-HELL about sound |
| 00:35.24 | phil-j | simonrvn: Section 6.1 "Roaming Access" |
| 00:35.24 | simonrvn | ok, roaming access |
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| 00:35.34 | abrotman | !tell ACORN-FROM-HELL about audio |
| 00:35.39 | abrotman | dpkg: hello? |
| 00:35.47 | abrotman | oh god |
| 00:35.48 | Delph | waah |
| 00:35.49 | abrotman | i killed him |
| 00:35.50 | thomas_adam | !find linux-gate.so.1 |
| 00:35.51 | Delph | we're going to die |
| 00:35.55 | Delph | *runs around in circles* |
| 00:35.59 | abrotman | ~rescue dpkg |
| 00:36.04 | abrotman | ~help dpkg |
| 00:36.07 | simonrvn | phil-j: i just have ToDo here. tldp has it all i think |
| 00:36.10 | thomas_adam | :( |
| 00:36.18 | ACORN-FROM-HELL | abrotman: I've done that!!! |
| 00:36.19 | thomas_adam | he's gone |
| 00:36.21 | thomas_adam | :'( |
| 00:36.28 | ACORN-FROM-HELL | abrotman: It's _still_ not working. |
| 00:36.37 | abrotman | ACORN-FROM-HELL: did you logout/login? |
| 00:36.37 | phil-j | simonrvn: Aha. What I would also try is telnet to the LDAP server manually. |
| 00:36.42 | abrotman | ACORN-FROM-HELL: and does your sound work as root? |
| 00:36.46 | ACORN-FROM-HELL | abrotman: yeah, like 3 times |
| 00:36.51 | ACORN-FROM-HELL | abrotman: yeah, it works fine as root |
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| 00:37.06 | thebug | ACORN-FROM-HELL: adduser <youruser> audio |
| 00:37.07 | Kano | hi |
| 00:37.08 | simonrvn | phil-j: but why are you telling me this? |
| 00:37.15 | ACORN-FROM-HELL | thebug: I DID! |
| 00:37.22 | Invisible | hi |
| 00:37.26 | Kano | anyone knows then samba in sid will work again? |
| 00:37.27 | simonrvn | phil-j: i have a working slapd here.. |
| 00:37.27 | pulaski | hi, I'm unsure of the filesystem type I for a belkin USB to serial converter I have on my debian woody box. The driver is loading into the kernel fine at startup and its hung on /dev/ttyUSB0. I need to make an entry in /etc/fstab for it but I don't know which fs "type" to use. Any helpful hints from you guys? |
| 00:37.30 | ACORN-FROM-HELL | rimtech@prometheus:~$ groups |
| 00:37.30 | ACORN-FROM-HELL | rimtech sound cdrom audio games users |
| 00:37.36 | phil-j | simonrvn: OK. |
| 00:37.51 | simonrvn | phil-j: :) |
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| 00:38.00 | w0rf | -_- |
| 00:38.06 | thomas_adam | ACORN-FROM-HELL: add yourself to the adm tty src groups as well. |
| 00:38.14 | w0rf | system fault or something |
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| 00:38.17 | w0rf | cuz i canceled? |
| 00:38.19 | thomas_adam | ACORN-FROM-HELL: and lowercase your sodding nickname |
| 00:38.31 | Rimtech | thomas_adam: better? |
| 00:38.32 | thomas_adam | Ta,# |
| 00:38.37 | cafuego | thomas_adam: and remove that preposterous underscore |
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| 00:38.40 | phil-j | simonrvn: I have an LDP CD which is pretty useful. All the HOWTOs are in text format in one directory so I just did "grep LDAP *". |
| 00:38.45 | thomas_adam | cafuego: :p |
| 00:38.54 | simonrvn | phil-j: nice |
| 00:38.56 | aw | i need a newer kernel image for my server than the ones that come with woody, but do the ones on sarge get security updates? |
| 00:39.06 | thomas_adam | !tell aw about backports |
| 00:39.07 | thomas_adam | umm |
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| 00:39.09 | thomas_adam | ~hellp |
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| 00:39.23 | simonrvn | aw: get it from kernel.org |
| 00:39.26 | thomas_adam | aw: www.backports.org || apt-get.org |
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| 00:39.48 | w0rf | how do i change to a query msg window in bitchx ? |
| 00:39.49 | simonrvn | aw: build it on another box, scp the .deb over, install, config, done |
| 00:39.59 | w0rf | o |
| 00:40.00 | aw | sigmounte: well, i like to get patched by apt-get but if that's the only choise i've got then i will... |
| 00:40.03 | sciboy | Whats a *fun* free game i could get? (on shitty 56k connection ^^) [Fun doesn't mean challenging] |
| 00:40.03 | w0rf | you dont. |
| 00:40.10 | simonrvn | w0rf: apt-get --purge install irssi-text bitchx- |
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| 00:40.12 | thebug | sciboy: frozen-bubble |
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| 00:40.19 | Xenguy | w0rf: apt-get install irssi ;-) |
| 00:40.29 | sciboy | thebug, yeh, frozen bubble rox ^^ |
| 00:40.32 | thomas_adam | simonrvn: heh |
| 00:40.37 | sciboy | thebug, the menu music is the best ^^ |
| 00:40.38 | ledestin | sciboy: star control, but it's large |
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| 00:40.51 | simonrvn | @wb greycat |
| 00:40.52 | ravenbird | Welcome back greycat, o lonely traveller amongst the TCP/IP packets of chaos. |
| 00:40.53 | pingouinn | !help |
| 00:41.01 | abrotman | sciboy: robotfindskitten |
| 00:41.08 | cafuego | sciboy: nethack |
| 00:41.21 | sciboy | cafuego, i don't see whats so fun about nethack... |
| 00:41.36 | cafuego | tssk, philistine |
| 00:41.38 | greycat | I'm seeing the *weirdest* thing at the moment. It's like some sort of distributed web-leeching system. The entire world is requesting Evanescence songs from my web server and pulling 16- to 24-kilobyte chunks of them. |
| 00:41.40 | sciboy | ledestin: where can i check out this star control? |
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| 00:41.47 | phil-j | sciboy: Frozen Bubble runs like a pig. On many machines. "xbubble" plays much more smoothly. |
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| 00:41.57 | abrotman | greycat: does that song exist there? |
| 00:41.59 | ledestin | sciboy: apt-cache search ur quan |
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| 00:42.05 | sciboy | phil-j, on my comp, its fine ^^ |
| 00:42.08 | greycat | abrotman: yes, they're *getting* these chunks. 200 and 206 results. |
| 00:42.09 | thomas_adam | greycat: Then these people need their hearing tested if they listen to that shite. |
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| 00:42.13 | programmer90 | Im having a kind of strange problem, both my cdroms in Gnome are not comin gup on my desktop and are not both showing up in XCDROAST. I added append="quiet hda=ide-scsi" to lilo.conf to get my cdr drive to work and it does but cd burnin gprograms dont detect my normal drive even though it is there although i use the normal one for APT |
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| 00:42.25 | abrotman | greycat: isp killing it? |
| 00:42.26 | phil-j | sciboy: That's because you are 3L33T. |
| 00:42.29 | Rimtech | ok... STILL didn't work... says... "Unable to open /dev/dsp (in use ?) |
| 00:42.29 | greycat | abrotman: which is a dramatic improvement over the normal prozilla-style "503 503 503 503 503 503 503 503 503 503 *BAN*" |
| 00:42.32 | thomas_adam | programmer90: have you asked in #gnome ? |
| 00:42.33 | abrotman | tweak! |
| 00:42.38 | w0rf | k bye :) |
| 00:42.40 | ledestin | sciboy: uqm package |
| 00:42.41 | simonrvn | greycat: wth? |
| 00:42.42 | aw | sarge anything close of becomming stable? |
| 00:42.48 | thomas_adam | Rimtech: Kill whatever is using the sound-device, and use a sound daemon. |
| 00:42.57 | programmer90 | Well its not working at all i mean i cant access it anywhere |
| 00:43.07 | Rimtech | thomas_adam: what sound daemon? |
| 00:43.15 | programmer90 | except when i use APT i use that |
| 00:43.15 | Xenguy | cafuego: speaking of nethack, I notice that when I'm in screen now (not playing nethack currently) when I do ^-a Esc I get a weird message on the status bar - and when I hit Esc again, I get another similar message "You escaped the dungeon" -- is this expected nethack'ish behaviour?! |
| 00:43.16 | Rimtech | thomas_adam: i'm using enlightened |
| 00:43.20 | thomas_adam | Rimtech: esd |
| 00:43.24 | Amarande | sciboy: nethack is pretty fun once you've got some practice so you don't die on the first couple levels all the time |
| 00:43.25 | sciboy | ledestin: i can't find ur quan via apt-cache :( |
| 00:43.32 | Amarande | of course, you -will- die in the first couple of levels sometimes anyway |
| 00:43.40 | thomas_adam | Rimtech: sound daemons are shite, but it does often allow for that error to be circumvented. |
| 00:43.42 | Amarande | also, nethack appears to have a functional version of Murphy's Law compiled into its code |
| 00:43.48 | simonrvn | Xenguy: that's screen |
| 00:43.51 | programmer90 | Do i have to download aNY MODULES FOR MY CD-ROM drive? |
| 00:43.51 | ledestin | sciboy: uqm is in testing |
| 00:43.51 | abrotman | sciboy: what kind of games do you like? |
| 00:43.53 | Rimtech | heh |
| 00:43.54 | Amarande | first rule of nethack: anytime something goes really, really out of the ordinary good |
| 00:43.58 | thomas_adam | programmer90: have you asked in #gnome ? |
| 00:43.59 | greycat | programmer90: only if it's ancient. |
| 00:44.02 | abrotman | dpkg: come back! |
| 00:44.07 | Rimtech | thomas_adam: I did "killall -KILL esd" and heard a really loud pop |
| 00:44.07 | Amarande | this is a sign that you will be posting a YASD to RGRN later that day :> |
| 00:44.14 | Rimtech | thomas_adam: that's a good sign i guess :P |
| 00:44.14 | thomas_adam | Rimtech: hehehe |
| 00:44.17 | sciboy | abrotman, mainly adventure games with alot of variations in its game play ^^ |
| 00:44.18 | Xenguy | simonrvn: does it have anything to do with nethack being installed or no? |
| 00:44.20 | thomas_adam | Rimtech: yup. |
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| 00:44.22 | programmer90 | Its not |
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| 00:44.32 | simonrvn | Xenguy: no. it's screen's nethack message |
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| 00:44.33 | sciboy | abrotman, but that ain't gonnah happen for free is it :P |
| 00:44.36 | abrotman | sciboy: if you like topdown flying games(not small though) .. try chromium |
| 00:44.42 | simonrvn | Xenguy: messages* |
| 00:44.44 | thomas_adam | Rimtech: use "lsof" or "fuser" to check what might still be using your /dev/dsp device. |
| 00:44.49 | Infinitus | I'm thinking of installing Debian instead of RedHat 9 |
| 00:44.55 | Rimtech | thomas_adam: it was esd..... |
| 00:44.59 | sciboy | Do it ^^ |
| 00:44.59 | Rimtech | thomas_adam: and i'm using esd... |
| 00:45.00 | programmer90 | Do it |
| 00:45.01 | pulaski | does anyone know which file type to use when mounting a usb to serial adaptor? |
| 00:45.02 | Rimtech | thomas_adam: wtf? |
| 00:45.04 | abrotman | sciboy: its *really* god *damn* hard |
| 00:45.13 | simonrvn | Infinitus: welcome |
| 00:45.26 | Amarande | Infinitus: Good, since Red Hat Linux is obsolete |
| 00:45.28 | Vilim | Infinitus: good for you, the last decent version of redhat was 7.3 anyways |
| 00:45.30 | programmer90 | Debian much better than RH |
| 00:45.34 | Amarande | there is no longer actively a such thing as Red Hat Linux |
| 00:45.38 | Xenguy | simonrvn: thanks for that info |
| 00:45.40 | beth | Vilim: 7.3, decent?? |
| 00:45.41 | Infinitus | Well the truth is I'm sick of rpm... |
| 00:45.42 | programmer90 | Yeah Fedora sux tho |
| 00:45.49 | sciboy | abrotman, ^^ |
| 00:45.50 | Amarande | there is Red Hat Enterprise Linux, which is a buy-only commercial distribution, and there's Fedora, which is what used to be Red Hat Linux. |
| 00:45.51 | Infinitus | I like apt-get. I had Debian installed before and I liked it. |
| 00:45.54 | Vilim | I was a big redhat fan until they bastardised it with the coming of 8 |
| 00:46.14 | Rimtech | speaking of which... should I be using apt-get or aptitude? |
| 00:46.17 | Amarande | i have mixed feelings about rpm vs. debian package system |
| 00:46.18 | Rimtech | or does it matter? |
| 00:46.20 | Infinitus | Redhat is just too much of a pain in the ass with all the dependencies issues |
| 00:46.21 | abrotman | sciboy: ? |
| 00:46.37 | Infinitus | apt-get is far superior to rpm... |
| 00:46.38 | Amarande | on the one hand, apt makes the debian package system so easy to use for installing new precompiled packages |
| 00:46.38 | simonrvn | Rimtech: either works. but you'll need dselect or aptitude to fix deps sometimes |
| 00:46.43 | programmer90 | Hmm i have an SiS 630/730 chipset so i dont know what sound moduke to load, what should i do? |
| 00:46.49 | sciboy | abrotman: The games i like are barely in existence :( |
| 00:46.53 | Infinitus | Yup i'm installing Debian. |
| 00:46.56 | Amarande | on the other hand, I always found it really easy to make RPM packages, while I never really did get the hang of making a .deb |
| 00:47.00 | Infinitus | That's it, it's final. |
| 00:47.02 | abrotman | sciboy: that chromium game is hard .. but its pretty cool |
| 00:47.03 | Rimtech | back to dalnet for me :P |
| 00:47.06 | simonrvn | Infinitus: yay |
| 00:47.07 | Rimtech | thanks all |
| 00:47.12 | sciboy | abrotman: Closest i can get it MMORPG with mini-games... |
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| 00:47.13 | Infinitus | I just have to plan out the install and i'll be ready to go on it. |
| 00:47.17 | mdh | abrotman: chromium rocks :) |
| 00:47.20 | abrotman | freecraft? |
| 00:47.25 | abrotman | mdh: but its sooo hard! |
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| 00:47.30 | Infinitus | There is lot's and lot's of debian documentation eh? |
| 00:47.30 | mdh | best thing to ever come out of canada |
| 00:47.31 | snoke | anyone used linux cluster ? |
| 00:47.31 | simonrvn | ah, a thinking person :) |
| 00:47.32 | Amarande | programmer90: technically, you should buy a new motherboard, if it has anything SiS |
| 00:47.32 | abrotman | !be a chromium barbie |
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| 00:47.38 | Amarande | but ... as to what driver they use im not sure :/ |
| 00:47.38 | Xenguy | Amarande: if you want to 'cheat' with making debs, have a look at 'chkinstall' sometime |
| 00:47.40 | Infinitus | Plus I own a book on installing Debian... |
| 00:47.41 | abrotman | snoke: used or installed? |
| 00:47.45 | simonrvn | mdh: chromium? |
| 00:47.45 | Infinitus | So it makes it all the better... |
| 00:47.46 | programmer90 | i need another solution : ) |
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| 00:47.57 | snoke | abrotman: both |
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| 00:47.58 | Vilim | Infinitus: If you are going to be using this as a desktop I would reccomend that you get a sarge businesscard install then optionally upgrade to sid |
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| 00:48.11 | Amarande | SiS chips of any type are always maddeningly exasperating on any OS |
| 00:48.12 | Vilim | I have found (for a desktop) that method is the simplest |
| 00:48.15 | Delph | does anyone use a palm device via USB and jpilot? If so could you point me at some nice howto or something, its starting to annoy me now. |
| 00:48.18 | mdh | simonrvn: yep. apt-get install chromium |
| 00:48.19 | Amarande | especially their 6326 video chip, which I had the misfortune of using once |
| 00:48.29 | abrotman | snoke: i know a guy who does a lot of it .. and he may be on freenode now |
| 00:48.30 | programmer90 | Well RH detected it before |
| 00:48.33 | mdh | abrotman: I finished it on insane difficulty |
| 00:48.33 | Infinitus | well what i have is the installer cdrom from a book i bought about installing debian. |
| 00:48.35 | programmer90 | and it worked |
| 00:48.43 | Infinitus | so i acutally bought Debian. |
| 00:48.45 | abrotman | mdh: you need a life :) |
| 00:48.52 | Infinitus | or at least made some contribution money wise. |
| 00:48.55 | mdh | abrotman: I had this brief period where the mouse and I became one |
| 00:48.59 | Vilim | Delph: Try searching the gentoo forums, the information is transferrable and there is alot of good threads on that subject there |
| 00:48.59 | phil-j | Delph: I've only ever tried kpilot. |
| 00:49.07 | abrotman | mdh: uh ... thats just wrong |
| 00:49.07 | Infinitus | So i'll install an old version of debian and update everything once it's installed and running good. |
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| 00:49.12 | abrotman | mdh: kind of like felching |
| 00:49.15 | simonrvn | mdh: gotcha |
| 00:49.15 | Vilim | Delph: forums.gentoo.org |
| 00:49.16 | snoke | abrotman: have you used it ? |
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| 00:49.26 | simonrvn | abrotman: eew hehe |
| 00:49.29 | abrotman | snoke: my friend works for a company that makes/installs clusters |
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| 00:49.34 | sciboy | Anyone used an engine called "player worlds" before? I was wondering if there was a linux equivelant to it? I am just looking for a highly customisable mmorpg engine that doesn't require me to start from scratch in C ^^ |
| 00:49.37 | abrotman | simonrvn: eww indeed |
| 00:49.49 | abrotman | snoke: but hes MIA tonight |
| 00:49.55 | abrotman | snoke: what kind of cluster? |
| 00:50.27 | mdh | abrotman: as a hint in chromium - get used to all three guns and how they work |
| 00:50.28 | abrotman | high-availability or computational? |
| 00:50.29 | programmer90 | There are not any generic modules or somehing, i hate these go buy something answers |
| 00:50.44 | abrotman | mdh: i stopped playing it .. it was just insanely hard |
| 00:50.46 | Delph | Vilim: cheers |
| 00:51.23 | greycat | 217.127.199.20 - - [26/May/2004:20:51:06 -0400] "GET /music/Evanescence/Evanescence%20-%20Going%20Under.ogg HTTP/1.1" 206 28434 |
| 00:51.27 | greycat | 212.106.88.194 - - [26/May/2004:20:51:06 -0400] "GET /music/Evanescence/Evanescence%20-%20Field%20Of%20Innocence.ogg HTTP/1.0" 206 24576 |
| 00:51.31 | abrotman | mdh: try robotfindskitten |
| 00:51.33 | greycat | That's just a tiny sample. There's no way this can be a coincidence. |
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| 00:51.44 | sciboy | Is there any good 2d MMORPG engines out there? |
| 00:51.52 | abrotman | greycat: are they real clients? or maybe just a webcrawler? |
| 00:51.56 | sciboy | *Free* ones ^^ |
| 00:51.57 | simonrvn | greycat: holy fuck |
| 00:52.11 | simonrvn | greycat: same /8 block |
| 00:52.13 | greycat | abrotman: as I said, it looks like some sort of distributed leeching thing. |
| 00:52.24 | abrotman | greycat: like donkeyshare? |
| 00:52.25 | simonrvn | greycat: uh, no i saw that wrong |
| 00:52.29 | greycat | simonrvn: and 80.* and 143.* and 64.* ... |
| 00:52.37 | simonrvn | whoah |
| 00:52.49 | simonrvn | themolest: indeed, i need some new ones |
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| 00:52.57 | simonrvn | ... |
| 00:53.05 | simonrvn | @lart my glasses |
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| 00:53.12 | abrotman | nice |
| 00:53.13 | greycat | well, it's off topic, but I can't think of anywhere that it's actually *on* topic... :-/ |
| 00:53.21 | mdh | simonrvn: mistaking the http response (206) for the network class a ? ;) |
| 00:53.33 | greycat | mdh: he probably misread 212 and 217 as being the same |
| 00:53.45 | simonrvn | greycat: that's right |
| 00:54.40 | programmer90 | So what module can i load i feel dmb and sucky maybe ill try all and see what happens |
| 00:55.00 | mdh | hmmm.. robotfindskitten looks interesting |
| 00:55.24 | snoke | abrotman: dont know yeat, i try figure what it can do |
| 00:55.36 | abrotman | snoke: but you have a goal right? |
| 00:55.55 | abrotman | snoke: no #beowulf? |
| 00:55.58 | cafuego | Hmm, yesterday was the best day sofar; server rejected 1253 emails due to spamness. |
| 00:56.03 | programmer90 | Hey im amazed i just found a driver for my SiS modem |
| 00:56.15 | greycat | programmer90: well... what driver did red hat use for it? |
| 00:56.18 | greycat | programmer90: use that one. |
| 00:56.24 | programmer90 | I dont know heh |
| 00:56.32 | simonrvn | cafuego: i'm not counting anymore.. though i might set it up again, just out of perverse curiousity |
| 00:56.50 | greycat | programmer90: does knoppix detect it? |
| 00:57.06 | cafuego | simonrvn: i run 'pflogsumm.pl' which parses the postfix log right before logrotate. |
| 00:57.13 | cafuego | simonrvn: .. and mails me a set of stats. |
| 00:57.32 | programmer90 | I dont have Knoppix right now but yes it did |
| 00:57.49 | simonrvn | cafuego: cool |
| 00:58.17 | g4lt | greycat I'd watch the SEARCH requests. it looks like the kiddiez are hammering that with full packetloads to see if people are vulnerable to something |
| 00:58.30 | snoke | abrotman: ofcourse i have goal but meny solution where i would need it |
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| 00:58.56 | greycat | g4lt: no, it doesn't look like that at all to me. All I'm getting are boatloads of 16- to 24-kilobyte valid requests for songs from the same artist from IPs all over the place |
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| 00:59.09 | aldug | in 'dpkg -l' what's the difference between lines with 'ii' and 'rc'? |
| 00:59.11 | cafuego | 3249 received/2191 delivered/1253 rejected (36%)/50300k bytes received |
| 00:59.22 | greycat | g4lt: there are no bogus requests at all mixed in |
| 00:59.26 | abrotman | aldug: installed vs removed(not purged) |
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| 00:59.37 | g4lt | greycat hmmm, well I'm getting huge-assed searches |
| 00:59.49 | cafuego | And I keep getting more and more russian bloody spam |
| 00:59.49 | aldug | does rc stand for something? |
| 00:59.52 | greycat | aldug: yes |
| 01:00.06 | greycat | !FAQ |
| 01:00.07 | dpkg | The #debian FAQ is at http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ (still incomplete... original FAQ is at http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq/) |
| 01:00.12 | programmer90 | Hey is this normal for VESA, every time i try to change resolutions the screen screws up |
| 01:00.23 | programmer90 | it only works on 1 resolution |
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| 01:01.32 | aldug | dpkg is so lame sometimes |
| 01:01.33 | dpkg | aldug: I give up, what is it? |
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| 01:02.10 | greycat | http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/PackageManagement#head-36ff1cae0088e1ac6de64457068574c176387ee0 |
| 01:02.40 | Den | programmer90: you should be able to get more then one resolution on a VESA compatible card |
| 01:03.06 | Infinitus | Is there a good program that I can use for probing all my hardware to find out what I have? |
| 01:03.11 | Den | programmer90: but are you talking about X, FB or somthing else? |
| 01:03.14 | Infinitus | I need to know this stuff for my Debian install. |
| 01:03.15 | Bu5H | Infinitus lspci |
| 01:03.18 | Bu5H | oh. |
| 01:03.20 | phil-j | Infinitus: lspci |
| 01:03.21 | Infinitus | lspci? |
| 01:03.24 | phil-j | Infinitus: lspci -v -v |
| 01:03.26 | Infinitus | I wonder if I have that. |
| 01:03.30 | Den | Infinitus: hal |
| 01:03.31 | abrotman | that only works from linux doesn' tit? |
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| 01:03.36 | greycat | Infinitus: windows's "hardware manager" inside control panel. |
| 01:03.37 | phil-j | Infinitus: cat /proc/pci |
| 01:03.39 | aldug | greycat: thanks |
| 01:03.44 | programmer90 | i think its on 800x600 but when i Control Alt + my screen screws up and Tux Racer anbd all full screen games run real slow...... |
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| 01:04.06 | abrotman | programmer90: dont run tuxracer with the vesa driver |
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| 01:04.30 | bsims | Hey quick problem, my keypad doesn't work under XFree after a upgrade but does work on the console, any ideas? the math symbols and enterkey work |
| 01:04.34 | Den | programmer90: well youll need to have the diffent modes in the X config files |
| 01:04.56 | phil-j | programmer90: Unless you have 3D accel. properly set up Tux Racer et al try to run in SOFTWARE and it takes ages just to quit. |
| 01:04.58 | Den | bsims: im getting the same problem |
| 01:05.03 | abrotman | cafuego: ever tried rabid? |
| 01:05.12 | abrotman | hmm .. is that the program |
| 01:05.30 | abrotman | http://freshmeat.net/projects/postal/ |
| 01:05.31 | bsims | Den: hrm I dont' even know what package to file a bugreport on, I tried downgrading X to previous version but nope |
| 01:06.26 | Infinitus | Installing Debian seems like a good idea. |
| 01:06.26 | Den | bsims: i have no idea |
| 01:06.34 | pi | Yes, I wish someone held my hand through the process. |
| 01:06.34 | phil-j | bsims: xev is your friend. |
| 01:06.37 | pi | ;] |
| 01:06.59 | jake_ | how do I get bios to boot from cd, when lilo is already installed and won't permit such an operation? |
| 01:07.17 | bsims | hrm it seems to be ignoring that numlock is infact on |
| 01:07.18 | abrotman | jake_: hit the key to get into the bios |
| 01:07.22 | Den | !xev |
| 01:07.22 | dpkg | somebody said xev was in the xcontrib package |
| 01:07.24 | LoRez | jake_: lilo has nothing to do with your bios and has no control over the issue |
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| 01:07.42 | phil-j | jake_: You need to get into BIOS setup. Eg: F2 immediately after switching on the machine |
| 01:07.51 | bsims | ok so its ignoring the numlock now WTF is it doing that? |
| 01:07.52 | abrotman | or DEL |
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| 01:08.08 | abrotman | or some absurd .. ctrl-alt-f1-x-9-ins |
| 01:08.08 | abrotman | :) |
| 01:08.20 | greycat | it's usually f1, f2, f9, f10, f11, f12, or DEL |
| 01:08.34 | greycat | just wail on all of those keys while it's powering on |
| 01:08.58 | greycat | or, god forbid, consult your manual... |
| 01:08.58 | phil-j | greycat: Hey, you forgot my favourites Backspace and Enter! |
| 01:09.07 | scarynetworkguy | greycat good advice :) |
| 01:09.25 | scarynetworkguy | with your forehead |
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| 01:09.37 | Amarande | jake_: you have your BIOS set up to give boot priority to the hard drive over the CD |
| 01:09.42 | Amarande | you need to rearrange it so it checks the CD first |
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| 01:09.49 | Ricardo_ba | alguem pode me ajudar com a configuração do postgresql ? ; can someone help me with postgresql configuration ? |
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| 01:09.56 | phil-j | Quick poll: Freakiest damn BIOS setup key? |
| 01:09.59 | greycat | !portuguese |
| 01:09.59 | dpkg | it has been said that portuguese is the most beautiful idiom of the world, or #debian-br, or por favor use #debian-br para ajuda em portugues. |
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| 01:10.08 | abrotman | phil-j: ctrl-alt-f2 |
| 01:10.15 | phil-j | LOL |
| 01:10.16 | abrotman | or maybe it was ctrl-alt-ins |
| 01:10.23 | ctp | hi folks. anyone here who can say me if sarge is stable enough now to take it for productive servers? how long is it in freeze now? |
| 01:10.34 | abrotman | god damn gateway 486-sx33 with a phoenix bios |
| 01:10.47 | abrotman | ctp: its not in freeze yet |
| 01:10.54 | greycat | ctp: the base system is *allegedly* frozen in terms of dependencies, but since you are already reading d-d-a, you know that that's not quite the reality. |
| 01:10.58 | ledestin | ctp: we've had problems with libc |
| 01:11.00 | greycat | (... you *are* reading d-d-a, right?) |
| 01:11.20 | phil-j | abrotman: IBM Thinkpad: Floppy disk needed! |
| 01:11.31 | abrotman | phil-j: laptops dont count :) |
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| 01:11.32 | bsims | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:11.35 | abrotman | they're always fucked up |
| 01:11.38 | greycat | bsims: /msg dpkg keymap |
| 01:11.46 | sciboy | How do i enable contrib and nonfree in my sources.list? |
| 01:11.53 | abrotman | sciboy: apt-setup |
| 01:11.59 | greycat | sciboy: edit it. Change "main" to "main contrib non-free" everywhere. |
| 01:12.00 | phil-j | abrotman: LOL |
| 01:12.11 | Ricardo_ba | can someone help me with postgresql configuration ? |
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| 01:12.33 | abrotman | Ricardo_ba: you can try .. but #postgresql would probably be better |
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| 01:13.39 | Infinitus | Is this a help channel? |
| 01:13.45 | abrotman | yes |
| 01:13.49 | phil-j | Is there a new laptop (< 1 year old) that doesn't run like an oven? |
| 01:14.03 | abrotman | mine is pretty warm on the bottom |
| 01:14.19 | greycat | Infinitus: sometimes. |
| 01:14.27 | ctp | greycat: ah, ok. thx. i must install 3 new servers so i'll try with sarge. i know there are woody backports for all the stuff i need, but i think its better to take sarge for all instead of exchange tons of apps with backports in woody. |
| 01:14.35 | abrotman | Infinitus: you could just start a war about something if you prefer |
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| 01:15.07 | greycat | ctp: just make sure you subscribe to d-d-a and d-s-a. Remember that sarge gets no security fixes, so you have to be the security team's replacement. |
| 01:15.37 | greycat | ctp: that said, we're probably going to be installing a new server in the next few months, and I think I'm going to use sarge myself. |
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| 01:16.11 | abrotman | greycat: well hopefully it will be released by then :) |
| 01:16.31 | greycat | be careful with that breath-holding thing. Last time I did that, I turned into a bluecat. |
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| 01:16.35 | abrotman | heh |
| 01:17.01 | abrotman | i could turn into ablueman :) |
| 01:17.01 | mdh | heh.. that reminds me of thoe elephant jokes |
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| 01:17.16 | greycat | mdh: I know that one too. |
| 01:17.24 | mdh | there's 3 ;) |
| 01:17.26 | sanxiyn | When will be Sarge released. |
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| 01:17.30 | greycat | !wir |
| 01:17.30 | dpkg | When It's Ready, see also RSN |
| 01:17.33 | abrotman | !sarge pool |
| 01:17.33 | dpkg | Place your bets on when sarge will become stable! sim0nrvn=2004-03-15 helix=2004-03-27 sharth=2004-03-03 croddy=2004-02-14 ghakko=2004-04-20 CompWizrd=103-12-25 deadcat=2005-08-16 beta3=WWSS peterS=2004-05-01 gnupg=2004-01-01 DelEat=2004-04-02 nevyn=2004-03-20 Shay=2004-03-28 streuner=2004-02-29 greycat=2004-03-01 Justin=WIR rw-rw-r--=2004-04-22 Jawoota=2004-02-01, or Anthro=2004-03-21, or see "sarge bet" for how to add yours |
| 01:17.38 | debian | !rsn |
| 01:17.39 | dpkg | somebody said rsn was Real Soon Now (or never) or see "wir" and "siyh" |
| 01:17.41 | ctp | greycat: yeah, i know. i read the d-d-a. do you know the ca. point of time they will freeze sarge? |
| 01:17.49 | debian | !siyh |
| 01:17.49 | dpkg | rumour has it, siyh is Sooner If You Help, or see "wir" and "rsn" |
| 01:17.50 | greycat | ctp: see above. |
| 01:18.09 | kvn | What's grey and comes in quarts? |
| 01:18.09 | helix | meh |
| 01:18.15 | abrotman | kvn: bad milk? |
| 01:18.17 | kvn | An elephant. |
| 01:18.26 | abrotman | !helixplayer |
| 01:18.26 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, helixplayer is https://player.helixcommunity.org/2004/unix/ |
| 01:18.29 | abrotman | heh |
| 01:18.33 | scarynetworkguy | ham |
| 01:18.35 | mdh | what do you do when an elephant comes through your window? |
| 01:18.39 | mdh | swim for your life! |
| 01:18.41 | greycat | clean it up. |
| 01:18.43 | ctp | greycat: ok ;-) |
| 01:18.57 | Vilim | blame it on your brother |
| 01:19.03 | abrotman | helix: just a little? |
| 01:19.05 | sanxiyn | !sarge bet |
| 01:19.06 | dpkg | "sarge pool" has overflowed so use "sarge pool 4". To add a bet to the sarge pool: !sarge pool 4 =~ s/!/! <nick>=yyyy-mm-dd/ |
| 01:19.12 | Vilim | or whoever else happens to be the scapegoat of the day |
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| 01:19.25 | hanasaki | how can apt-get be told to install a specific version of a package shown by apt-show-versions -a gnome-applets |
| 01:20.00 | greycat | man apt-get |
| 01:20.01 | helix | abrotman: no way man, i'm in brazil |
| 01:20.05 | helix | life is teh good |
| 01:20.11 | hanasaki | tried that .. even did the -t option |
| 01:20.16 | abrotman | helix: you're in brazil? |
| 01:20.20 | abrotman | and on #debian? |
| 01:20.22 | greycat | helix: ssh'ed to florida? |
| 01:20.22 | thebug | helix: how's the conf? |
| 01:20.31 | hacim | abrotman: yeah we all are |
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| 01:21.12 | abrotman | hacim: im certainly not in brazil |
| 01:21.22 | zygut | he is |
| 01:21.24 | helix | abrotman: dude, there's a hack room |
| 01:21.30 | helix | yo hacim ! |
| 01:21.30 | zygut | huge hack room |
| 01:21.34 | helix | greycat: yeah, ssh'ed in |
| 01:21.44 | abrotman | hacim is in brazil too? |
| 01:21.49 | hacim | abrotman: yep! |
| 01:21.49 | helix | yes |
| 01:21.54 | abrotman | god dam nit |
| 01:21.57 | abrotman | im in philly |
| 01:21.59 | helix | he's a tall skinny guy ;P |
| 01:22.01 | hacim | abrotman: its all about the screen from a reliable colocated server |
| 01:22.02 | abrotman | and the weather sucks |
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| 01:22.19 | peterS | abrotman: well, I'm in Kansas, and the weather is reasonable but not optimal |
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| 01:22.30 | abrotman | peterS: its like that every day there :) |
| 01:22.32 | beth | I'm not in brazil; I'm also probably not going to buffalo (YAPC) either :( |
| 01:22.46 | jcollins | anyone know how to get 'df' to display it's output in non-devfs format? |
| 01:22.50 | abrotman | wait .. im going to WI for the fourth of july! |
| 01:22.51 | peterS | abrotman: it hailed the other night. no tornados, but not good weather either |
| 01:22.52 | mdh | it looks like a beutiful day outside... but I have to waste it inside :( |
| 01:23.00 | scarynetworkguy | it would seem to me that not going to Buffalo would be a good thing |
| 01:23.16 | abrotman | wheres Guerin .. i want to know how korea is doing |
| 01:23.30 | Guerin | top o' the morning to you, abrotman |
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| 01:24.10 | abrotman | Guerin: and the weather? |
| 01:24.12 | ctp | greycat: if i take sarge now for the server, is it simple to downgrade the stuff to the new stable, when its released? i think many apps will be kicked out in stable residing now in sarge. |
| 01:24.16 | Guerin | today it's about 18 degrees, high cloud and still - yesterday was a holiday, so people are more miserable than usual to be back at work |
| 01:24.23 | abrotman | 18C or 18F? |
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| 01:24.30 | Lars_G | Hey all.... |
| 01:24.31 | greycat | ctp: you won't be *downgrading* to the new stable when sarge is released; you'll be *upgrading* to the new stable. |
| 01:24.33 | Guerin | abrotman: centigrade |
| 01:24.37 | abrotman | thats not too bad |
| 01:24.47 | Lars_G | dumb question bunch, is there any apt-gettable mp3 encoder compatible with xmms-liveice |
| 01:24.48 | Lars_G | ?? |
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| 01:25.00 | greycat | ctp: if anything's removed, then you'll have extra things that aren't available on the official mirrors, that's all |
| 01:25.06 | abrotman | Lars_G: www.apt-get.org |
| 01:25.06 | AdrianLP | Can anyone tell me if this pattern: ^\w{3} [ :0-9]{11} Liz CRON\[[0-9]*\]: \(pam_unix\) session (opened) | (closed) for user root by \(uid=0\) |
| 01:25.07 | abrotman | !lame |
| 01:25.08 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, lame is an MP3 encoder at http://www.mp3dev.org/ mirrored at http://lame.sourceforge.net/ which contains debian build instructions, to make your own debs from the tarballs. Versions 3.81 onwards are LGPL!. gogo is a faster encoder (now without a maintainer), based on an older version of lame, or don't forget to 'chmod +x debian/rules'. Get .debs from here: http://marillat.free.fr/ |
| 01:25.17 | AdrianLP | Will match this: May 25 01:08:01 Liz CRON[28809]: (pam_unix) session opened for user mail by (uid=0) |
| 01:25.37 | ctp | greycat: ok. thx. |
| 01:25.37 | greycat | AdrianLP: why don't you just *try* and find out? |
| 01:25.50 | Guerin | abrotman: not bad at all ... it feels like rain. rain means lots and lots of raiin - these rice paddies need some fillin' |
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| 01:26.06 | abrotman | Guerin: can you swim in those? |
| 01:26.15 | AdrianLP | greycat: Can you propose a way that I might try that? |
| 01:26.32 | greycat | AdrianLP: however you intended to use it *in the first place*, I'd imagine. |
| 01:26.39 | Guerin | abrotman: no, rice paddies only get up to about a foot deep |
| 01:26.41 | mdh | AdrianLP: use (open|clos)ed instead of (opened) | (closed) |
| 01:26.58 | Lars_G | abrotman: Interesting, very interesting, thanks. |
| 01:27.00 | mdh | AdrianLP: er... unless you need the group for something later of course |
| 01:27.01 | invisibill | can anyone recommend a backup tool for sarge? I tried to apt-get mondo from the sarge repositories but it was not listed. |
| 01:27.06 | dan2 | What time is it now in .nl? |
| 01:27.07 | AdrianLP | greycat: I'd intended to stuff it into a file, and the next time logcheck makes a report see if anything is there. I don't think I myself have perms enough to run logcheck earlier. |
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| 01:27.34 | abrotman | invisibill: apt-cache search backup |
| 01:27.39 | kvn | AdrianLP: Test with sed, perl, vi, something with regexps. |
| 01:27.42 | greycat | dan2: very early morning.... |
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| 01:28.02 | Guerin | so if lame is LGPL, why is it not in debian proper? |
| 01:28.09 | greycat | Guerin: patent issues |
| 01:28.11 | neiljp | hmmm...definitely need a new case fan...temp goes down by 6 deg+ when I take the top off... |
| 01:28.14 | AdrianLP | kvn: Vi, never thought about that. |
| 01:28.29 | Guerin | greycat: same going for all mp3 encoderss, or is it an issue specific to lame? |
| 01:28.37 | mdh | AdrianLP: or use regexplorer, visual-regexp, etc |
| 01:28.39 | greycat | Guerin: all mp3 encoders. Debian has none. |
| 01:28.44 | abrotman | Guerin: all free ones |
| 01:28.52 | abrotman | Guerin: patent/royalty issues |
| 01:28.57 | Guerin | greycat: right, the fraunhofer thing. I get it. |
| 01:28.59 | greycat | of course, debian has vorbis-tools, which is better. |
| 01:29.32 | hanasaki | been looking for the package that contains the gnome settings deamon and cant find it with apt-cache or the debian.org package search how else might i find it? |
| 01:29.32 | mdh | lame aint and mp3 encoder |
| 01:29.46 | dan2 | greycat: is that like 6 am? |
| 01:29.47 | greycat | and it ain't in debian :) |
| 01:29.57 | greycat | dan2: probably earlier than that |
| 01:30.13 | dan2 | greycat: how many hours ahead of UTC? |
| 01:30.20 | greycat | UTC is 1:30, and I can't imagine .nl is more than 1 or 2 hours ahead of UTC |
| 01:30.36 | greycat | I don't know exactly |
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| 01:30.51 | bsims | keypad still isnt working I tried installing a new keymap and restarting X |
| 01:31.36 | dan2 | where the hell is bob2? |
| 01:31.51 | abrotman | in AU? |
| 01:31.53 | dan2 | bob2: 7 hours of sleep is too much! |
| 01:31.57 | greycat | washing the vegemite off his kangaroo's rump? |
| 01:32.12 | abrotman | i can't sleep 7 hours anymore |
| 01:32.17 | scarynetworkguy | dan2 that depends on how you look at it. is the body under the raised floor really still bob2? |
| 01:32.18 | abrotman | i blame my genes |
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| 01:32.31 | phil-j | bsims: Boot your machine with Knoppix or some other run-from-CD distribution. See if the keypad works then. Then have a dig around and you'll probably figure out the right keymap to choose. |
| 01:32.45 | dan2 | ~tell phil-j and bsims about knoppix |
| 01:32.54 | bsims | phil-j: not if the package is borked, it worked before |
| 01:32.55 | dan2 | bwah@ |
| 01:32.57 | phil-j | I know it's not Debian! |
| 01:33.23 | neiljp | are the keyboard issues to do with X or gnome upgrade? |
| 01:33.41 | bsims | All I did was a simple upgrade and everything /except/ numberpad works... X best I can tell. |
| 01:33.57 | abrotman | !helixplayer |
| 01:33.57 | dpkg | helixplayer is probably https://player.helixcommunity.org/2004/unix/ |
| 01:34.21 | bsims | I downgraded X and nothing I tried downgrading console but nothing even tried dpkg-reconfigure |
| 01:34.25 | greycat | why is that an https url? |
| 01:34.45 | g4lt | greycat real is being pricks |
| 01:34.47 | abrotman | helix: sorry .. couldn't resist |
| 01:34.55 | phil-j | bsims: Create a new login account and try logging in there. I've sometimes been able to tell if a problem is user-space by doing that. |
| 01:34.57 | peterS | abrotman: aye, such a clever one you are |
| 01:35.05 | abrotman | i blame my genes |
| 01:35.14 | dan2 | peterS: hello |
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| 01:35.32 | peterS | dan2: hiya |
| 01:35.32 | phil-j | peterS: Hello. |
| 01:35.48 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: its really my genes |
| 01:36.00 | bsims | Sigh, this sucks... |
| 01:36.17 | jcollins | anyone know why the output of df would list partitions in devfs format? |
| 01:36.21 | peterS | abrotman: you're about two steps up the ladder from FieldySnuts in "thinks-he's-clever bot use" (: |
| 01:36.24 | phil-j | bsims: Sorry, I wish I had a magic answer for you. |
| 01:36.24 | abrotman | wow .. thats a big sigh .. it had a capital 's' |
| 01:36.30 | zignig | abrotman: denim ? |
| 01:36.31 | peterS | abrotman: actually, that's harsh. probably more than two steps up from *that* |
| 01:36.40 | abrotman | peterS: i dotn really abuse the bots |
| 01:36.41 | bsims | phil-j: heh so do I <g> |
| 01:36.45 | neiljp | wrt mention of groovy games earlier: I'm currently hooked on xquest running in dosbox... |
| 01:36.52 | peterS | abrotman: I know. that's why "two steps" was a bit too harsh |
| 01:36.55 | bsims | do I have to kill X after changing keymaps? |
| 01:37.03 | abrotman | probably |
| 01:37.08 | abrotman | and try it :_) |
| 01:37.11 | bsims | hrm I tried that <g> |
| 01:37.18 | invisibill | Every time I boot into sarge 2.6.5-1-386 kernel, the eth0 connection fails. I can boot into 2.4.26-1-386 kernel with no problem. Has anyone seen this happen? I an not sure what to look for in the logs or even which log for that matter. |
| 01:37.29 | bsims | I just re-upgraded and it says Looking for keymap to install: |
| 01:37.33 | bsims | NONE |
| 01:37.35 | abrotman | invisibill: NIC? |
| 01:37.38 | neiljp | invisibill: a udev issue? |
| 01:37.44 | bsims | damn enter key |
| 01:37.53 | scarynetworkguy | !used |
| 01:38.00 | abrotman | !worked in 2.4 |
| 01:38.03 | dpkg | Every time you say "___ doesn't work in 2.6, but it worked in 2.4", a 25 cent (USD) surcharge must be paid to dan2. |
| 01:38.03 | scarynetworkguy | damnit that was not it |
| 01:38.08 | abrotman | why to dan2? |
| 01:38.14 | greycat | um. |
| 01:38.15 | AdrianLP | As an RE, what does this match: "[._[:alnum:]-]+" When I compare logcheck's built in filters against logs, this portion seems to only match my computers name. That can't be right I don't think though. |
| 01:38.18 | abrotman | greycat: dan2 is stealing your money |
| 01:38.18 | dan2 | because greycat was hogging the profits :) |
| 01:38.20 | Qapf | damn, abrotman, you beat me to it |
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| 01:38.32 | abrotman | dan2: you're a dirty thief |
| 01:38.35 | Amarande | invisibill: do you have the correct module for your eth card? |
| 01:38.35 | greycat | !factinfo worked in 2.4 |
| 01:38.35 | dpkg | worked in 2.4 -- created by greycat <rfc1413@wooledge.org> at Sun Feb 22 18:13:42 2004 (94 days); it has been requested 74 times, last by abrotman, 35s ago. |
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| 01:38.48 | Amarande | 2.6.5 might come with a different set of modules |
| 01:38.56 | greycat | dpkg, you suck for not updating the "modified by" consistently |
| 01:38.56 | dpkg | greycat: I give up, what is it? |
| 01:39.00 | scarynetworkguy | invisibill do you install module init tools and where did you get your .config for the 2.6 kernel for? |
| 01:39.00 | Amarande | personally, I tend to compile my own kernels, so I don't really know much about debian default ones |
| 01:39.05 | greycat | dpkg, worked in 2.4 =~ s/dan2/greycat/ |
| 01:39.05 | dpkg | greycat: OK |
| 01:39.21 | bsims | hrm brb |
| 01:39.23 | abrotman | greycat: you get your due now |
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| 01:39.40 | greycat | scarynetworkguy: aim with both hands, then. |
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| 01:39.41 | Qapf | apt was funnier |
| 01:39.42 | apt | Qapf: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
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| 01:39.51 | abrotman | apt: here? |
| 01:39.52 | apt | here is probably relative |
| 01:40.03 | Qapf | ok apt has redeamed itself |
| 01:40.05 | invisibill | ኣብሮትማንᡠሖዠዶ ዮኡ ችሀችአትሀ ኚጠ|
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| 01:40.14 | neiljp | argh |
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| 01:40.17 | abrotman | invisibill: no habla espanol? |
| 01:40.23 | PinBalWiz | Anyone seen SirDibos lately? |
| 01:40.24 | ekekos | i have problems with scanner from i upgraded to kernel 2.6, lsusb and sane-find-scanner show me the scanner but scanimage -L don't |
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| 01:40.28 | dan2 | wtf? |
| 01:40.39 | scarynetworkguy | !worked in 2.4 |
| 01:40.40 | dpkg | Every time you say "___ doesn't work in 2.6, but it worked in 2.4", a 25 cent (USD) surcharge must be paid to dan2 NOT greycat. |
| 01:40.48 | abrotman | what? |
| 01:40.50 | greycat | !factinfo worked in 2.4 |
| 01:40.50 | dpkg | worked in 2.4 -- created by greycat <rfc1413@wooledge.org> at Sun Feb 22 18:13:42 2004 (94 days); it has been requested 75 times, last by scarynetworkguy, 11s ago. |
| 01:40.51 | dan2 | haha |
| 01:40.52 | abrotman | change it back! |
| 01:41.01 | abrotman | its not dan2's money |
| 01:41.08 | abrotman | he doesn't need it .. he lives with mom and dad |
| 01:41.10 | greycat | why is the bot not reporting who's fucking with it? |
| 01:41.25 | invisibill | አስድ |
| 01:41.27 | PinBalWiz | !factinfo seen sirdibos? |
| 01:41.28 | dpkg | PinBalWiz: there's no such factoid as seen sirdibos? |
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| 01:41.57 | mdh | greycat: msg a factinfo to it |
| 01:42.06 | mdh | !factinfo mdh |
| 01:42.06 | dpkg | mdh -- last modified at Thu May 6 01:29:43 2004 by g4lt!galt@g4lt.base.supporter.pdpc; it has been requested 2 times, last by mdh, 2m 39s ago. |
| 01:42.15 | mdh | er... or perhaps not |
| 01:42.40 | PinBalWiz | !factinfo sirdibos |
| 01:42.40 | dpkg | PinBalWiz: there's no such factoid as sirdibos |
| 01:42.42 | abrotman | why the hell do i live on Drury Lane? |
| 01:42.48 | cafuego | !fuck Outlook |
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| 01:43.07 | cafuego | wtf would you pass 'user/smtp.server' as login name! |
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| 01:43.55 | mdh | cafuego: for the same reason you'd keep a mirrored local copy of an IMAP server... LookOut! is Dumb |
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| 01:44.00 | dan2 | dpkg: worked in 2.6 is <reply> Every time you say "___doesn't work in 2.4/2.8/3.0, but worked in 2.6", a 5 dollar (USD) surcharge must be paid to dan2 |
| 01:44.01 | dpkg | dan2: okay |
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| 01:44.52 | mdh | what the flying fuck is mod_whatkilledus ? |
| 01:45.00 | Amarande | i wonder if there will ever be a Linux 3.0 |
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| 01:45.03 | mdh | nobody killed the US yet |
| 01:45.06 | astronut | why did apt-get dist-upgrade have a huge number of programs on the remove list |
| 01:45.10 | Amarande | or if the cycle will just go 2.8, 2.10, 2.12, etc. |
| 01:45.17 | abrotman | Amarande: you mean a kernel 3.0? |
| 01:45.19 | astronut | Amarande: the upgrade to 3 will be if the executable format changes |
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| 01:45.30 | astronut | thats what happned in the transition from 1.x to 2.x |
| 01:45.34 | Sloshster | can someone tell me which kernel image to use for my AMD Athlon XP processor? 2.6.x.x-1-686? 2.6.x.x-1-686-smp? 2.6.x.x-1-k7? |
| 01:45.40 | greycat | !k7 |
| 01:45.40 | dpkg | rumour has it, k7 is The K7 family includes the Athlon, Duron, Thunderbird and Athlon XP processors. But not Opteron (K8)the earlier K6 family. |
| 01:45.48 | greycat | ugh. |
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| 01:45.56 | Amarande | astronut: if i recall apt-get right, i'd say you're probably missing a source in your list |
| 01:45.56 | dan2 | dpkg: devfs doesn't work is <reply> Every time you say "devfs doesn't work", a 25 dollar fee must be made payable to Richard Gooch |
| 01:45.57 | dpkg | dan2: okay |
| 01:46.08 | greycat | dpkg, k7 =~ s/ ||/./ |
| 01:46.09 | dpkg | OK, greycat |
| 01:46.10 | Amarande | if it's trying to remove a whole pile of packages completely as part of the upgrade |
| 01:46.10 | astronut | Amarande: been wokring fine up to now |
| 01:46.11 | jcollins | why would the /etc/mtab entries be in devfs format? |
| 01:46.11 | greycat | !k7 |
| 01:46.12 | dpkg | well, k7 is the old model name for the latest amd processor, the 'athlon'. The K7 family includes the Athlon, Duron, Thunderbird and Athlon XP processors. But not Opteron (K8)the earlier K6 family. |
| 01:46.22 | greycat | hmm, that's not right either. |
| 01:46.24 | Sloshster | ok |
| 01:46.25 | astronut | but all of a sudden, it wants to remove gnome, and stuff |
| 01:46.25 | Ro0tSiEgE | heh |
| 01:46.30 | astronut | samba |
| 01:46.31 | astronut | balsa |
| 01:46.32 | Hyp3rion | <-- dpkg has quit ("Leaving") ?? |
| 01:46.36 | Sloshster | so 686 is strictly for intel processors? |
| 01:46.38 | astronut | gnome-core |
| 01:46.40 | astronut | and others |
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| 01:47.01 | abrotman | Sloshster: you could tryit .. bad stuff might happen |
| 01:47.08 | Sloshster | i see |
| 01:47.16 | mick_laptop | Sloshster: x86 is intel |
| 01:47.23 | greycat | dpkg, no, k7 is the generic model name for the series of AMD i386-compatible processors which begins with the "Athlon" and also includes the "Duron", "Thunderbird" and "Athlon XP" processors. It does not include the Opteron (k8) family or the older K5 or K6 chips. |
| 01:47.24 | dpkg | greycat: okay |
| 01:47.27 | abrotman | Sloshster: those -k7 have been compiled for AMD cpus ... |
| 01:47.30 | abrotman | they hsould work better |
| 01:47.37 | Sloshster | ok ok |
| 01:47.38 | Sloshster | sweet |
| 01:47.45 | mdh | dpkg: useless factoid is <reply> Every time you create a useless factoid, God kills a kitten |
| 01:47.46 | dpkg | mdh: okay |
| 01:47.54 | Sloshster | thanx |
| 01:47.58 | mick_laptop | Sloshster: "x" stands for any number - 386, 486, etc |
| 01:48.01 | astronut | dpkg talks? |
| 01:48.03 | astronut | since when? |
| 01:48.06 | dpkg | astronut: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about |
| 01:48.13 | astronut | ah |
| 01:48.32 | astronut | dpkg: useless factoid |
| 01:48.32 | dpkg | Every time you create a useless factoid, God kills a kitten |
| 01:48.37 | abrotman | dpkg: useless factoid =~ s/kitten/knoppix user/ |
| 01:48.37 | dpkg | OK, abrotman |
| 01:48.42 | astronut | dpkg: useless factoid |
| 01:48.42 | dpkg | Every time you create a useless factoid, God kills a knoppix user |
| 01:48.45 | astronut | sweet |
| 01:48.53 | g4lt | astronut apt-get moo for fun and profit ;P |
| 01:48.54 | astronut | do you have to be on bots list to do that? |
| 01:48.57 | mick_laptop | haha |
| 01:49.06 | greycat | that's patently false; there are too many knoppix users remaining |
| 01:49.11 | mdh | abrotman: damn you, we're going to have a flood of useless factoids now ;P |
| 01:49.14 | greycat | astronut: there is no bots list |
| 01:49.21 | astronut | k |
| 01:49.21 | Guerin | heh, hey, I was thinking about the ROOOOOOT has landed! warning we get in here... |
| 01:49.25 | abrotman | mdh: but the world will be safer |
| 01:49.43 | peterS | did I join #debian-all-bots-all-the-time by mistake? |
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| 01:49.53 | Guerin | we should have a KNOPPIX MORON ALERT! when a client with username knoppix joins...] |
| 01:49.59 | abrotman | hehhe |
| 01:50.03 | greycat | Guerin: redundant. |
| 01:50.24 | Guerin | greycat: true, but it would save some typing, and we do miss the odd one |
| 01:50.34 | abrotman | greycat: could you tell me again about redundant? :) |
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| 01:50.38 | ekekos | what module for usb scanner? in kernel 2.6 |
| 01:50.41 | cafuego | Guerin: No, we should have a +b *!*knoppix@*.*#knoppix redirect ban |
| 01:50.44 | peterS | ekekos: no module |
| 01:50.53 | peterS | ekekos: your scanner software has to use libusb and usbfs |
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| 01:50.58 | greycat | Guerin: they always reveal themselves to be KNOPPIX MORONS just fine without botty assistance |
| 01:51.00 | peterS | ekekos: fortunately, sane can do this |
| 01:51.01 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: we did for a while, actually... but some people complained... |
| 01:51.01 | bsims | YeaRRRGGGHHHH!!!!! It doesn't fucking work.... /me yanks hair |
| 01:51.08 | g4lt | peterS depends, did you feel that? |
| 01:51.10 | cafuego | dondelelcaro: yeah, tough shit. |
| 01:51.14 | dondelelcaro | (probably #knoppix. ;-) |
| 01:51.25 | cafuego | dondelelcaro: Changing your username to be not knoppix isn't hard. |
| 01:51.26 | peterS | g4lt: what? |
| 01:51.27 | disasm | anyone thats used mailman ever seen this before? - May 26 21:48:50 2004 (1133) Low level smtp error: (-2, 'Name or service not known'), msgid: <mailman.0.1085622528.1139.mailman@gentux.org> |
| 01:51.29 | greycat | dondelelcaro: why isn't dpkg reporting who modified factoids? |
| 01:51.32 | disasm | May 26 21:48:50 2004 (1133) delivery to disasm@gentux.org failed with code -1: (-2, 'Name or service not known') |
| 01:51.32 | ekekos | peterS: i don't know what to do for use it? |
| 01:51.36 | dondelelcaro | greycat: eh, it should be... |
| 01:51.38 | peterS | bsims: are you Howard Dean in disguise? you sounded like him there |
| 01:51.43 | dondelelcaro | greycat: which factoids is it missing? |
| 01:51.43 | Guerin | greycat: sure, but it would still give them a clear signal that they're not wanted here ... since they don't read the topc, etc |
| 01:51.44 | Guerin | heh |
| 01:51.46 | bsims | peterS: LOL |
| 01:51.51 | g4lt | peterS then you're not in #debian-all-bots-all-the-time |
| 01:51.51 | Sloshster | are there any hot girls who use Debian? |
| 01:51.51 | abrotman | disasm: google says? |
| 01:51.56 | abrotman | Sloshster: helix |
| 01:51.56 | greycat | dondelelcaro: several changes were made to the "worked in 2.4" factoid and it always reports the same person who created it (me) |
| 01:51.57 | Sloshster | and do they use Woody or Sarge? |
| 01:52.01 | cafuego | Sloshster: My wife uses debian. |
| 01:52.05 | cafuego | Sloshster: .. Sid. |
| 01:52.07 | mdh | Sloshster: yes |
| 01:52.08 | Sloshster | nice |
| 01:52.11 | astronut | anyone else's apt trying to remove half of gnome? |
| 01:52.11 | disasm | abrotman: been googling about 6 straight hours now ;-) |
| 01:52.11 | dondelelcaro | greycat: hrm... do you know what time the modifications were made? |
| 01:52.15 | cafuego | on a PPC G3 |
| 01:52.17 | bsims | peterS: I am just pissed keyboard numlock isn't working under X but is on the console |
| 01:52.22 | dondelelcaro | !factinfo worked in 2.4 |
| 01:52.23 | dpkg | worked in 2.4 -- created by greycat <rfc1413@wooledge.org> at Sun Feb 22 18:13:42 2004 (94 days); it has been requested 75 times, last by scarynetworkguy, 11m 42s ago. |
| 01:52.27 | greycat | dondelelcaro: not precisely, but at least some of them were within the last half hour |
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| 01:52.30 | bsims | 2.6 is enrout |
| 01:52.30 | cafuego | astronut: use upgrade, not dist-upgrade |
| 01:52.33 | astronut | k |
| 01:52.34 | dondelelcaro | greycat: ok.. will check that out. |
| 01:52.34 | Guerin | Sloshster: but with an attitude like that, I doubt you'll be meeting many of them |
| 01:52.35 | abrotman | disasm: #mailman? |
| 01:52.38 | Sloshster | ?? |
| 01:52.40 | beth | on ppc g3 as well as several miscellaneous x86's |
| 01:52.43 | Sloshster | i didn't say anything bad |
| 01:52.54 | Sloshster | i just have yet to meet a lady in real life who's smart and hot |
| 01:52.55 | mdh | Sloshster: greycat and simonrvn use debian too |
| 01:52.58 | astronut | k |
| 01:53.02 | Sloshster | they usually are one or another |
| 01:53.03 | abrotman | Sloshster: go to college |
| 01:53.04 | peterS | Sloshster: gee, I wonder why that is |
| 01:53.05 | mdh | oh, wait, you said *hot* girls |
| 01:53.07 | rich_ | thanks, bbl |
| 01:53.08 | Sloshster | or some mediocre combo of both |
| 01:53.10 | Guerin | Sloshster: not met many then, I wonder why |
| 01:53.12 | Sloshster | i'm a grad student man |
| 01:53.13 | bsims | anyone else here have numpad disapear on them? if so did you fix it and how? |
| 01:53.20 | Sloshster | and there are no hot female engineers |
| 01:53.22 | greycat | Sloshster: you're very dangerously off topic. |
| 01:53.23 | Sloshster | pity me |
| 01:53.25 | cafuego | beth: Until we see photos we'll have to assume you have the heater cranked all the way up and are wearing several jumpers and coats ;-) |
| 01:53.26 | Sloshster | sorry |
| 01:53.28 | abrotman | bsims: glue the keyboard back together |
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| 01:53.41 | bsims | abrotman: haha funny |
| 01:53.44 | bsims | <slap |
| 01:53.45 | dondelelcaro | greycat: hrm... strange... |
| 01:53.52 | beth | photos of me are available for all the world to google |
| 01:53.58 | mdh | bsims: it's bug 251119 iirc |
| 01:53.58 | Sloshster | haha |
| 01:54.06 | Sloshster | what's the search phrase? |
| 01:54.11 | beth | loxosceles |
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| 01:54.35 | peterS | beth: I sometimes wonder how you can spell that right every time (: |
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| 01:54.44 | cafuego | peterS: aliases :-) |
| 01:54.45 | bsims | Ahh thats it thanks mdh |
| 01:54.50 | ekekos | peterS: under root scanner work, under normal user don't |
| 01:54.50 | bsims | mdh: have a scotch |
| 01:55.00 | beth | peterS: practice :) |
| 01:55.10 | abrotman | mdh: and a bourbon and beer |
| 01:55.10 | peterS | ekekos: right. need permissions. for the short term, 'chmod 666 /proc/bus/usb/???/??? |
| 01:55.14 | disasm | abrotman: yeah, been in there a bit too, waiting for someone, being im using the defaults from debian, i was hoping someone in here would see that message, and say, ah, this is what you need to do, but appears not... |
| 01:55.20 | peterS | ekekos: for the long term, figure out the right mount options for usbfs |
| 01:55.23 | zignig | peterS: spell ? , I had enough trouble pronouncing it :) |
| 01:55.30 | Sloshster | oh werd, beth is hot:) |
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| 01:55.32 | Sloshster | i stand corrected |
| 01:55.35 | abrotman | disasm: maybe an smtp server issue? which one? |
| 01:55.40 | greycat | note to self: do not bad-mouth perl around beth. |
| 01:55.42 | disasm | postfix |
| 01:55.52 | zignig | beth: does it bother you that the image search comes up with you a gnu and a whole pile of spiders ? |
| 01:55.56 | disasm | smtp server works fine tested with telnet |
| 01:56.01 | beth | Sloshster: I'm not the weightlifting baby in leopard skin on my front page |
| 01:56.05 | beth | zignig: hehe |
| 01:56.07 | beth | zignig: not at all |
| 01:56.23 | dondelelcaro | beth: oh... that's right... I had forgotten that you're in the LFHCfS |
| 01:56.27 | BanditExtendet | test |
| 01:56.29 | abrotman | disasm: ask #postfix also .. helpful guys in there |
| 01:56.29 | Sloshster | beth: oh, damn |
| 01:56.38 | abrotman | and girls too(sorry beth,helix,dan2) |
| 01:56.45 | disasm | abrotman: okies, thanks |
| 01:56.54 | cafuego | abrotman: good boy, you're learning |
| 01:56.55 | peterS | abrotman: they're all in #postfix? |
| 01:56.57 | zignig | beth: oh good :) |
| 01:57.07 | ekekos | peterS: what do?, chmod or not? |
| 01:57.19 | bsims | Now the /quit |
| 01:57.24 | abrotman | peterS: no .. i just didn't want to discriminate |
| 01:57.33 | thebug | you better watch out, beth'll |
| 01:57.34 | dan2 | peterS: can you have automake build docbook? |
| 01:57.40 | peterS | dan2: no idea |
| 01:57.40 | neiljp | yay, another juggler |
| 01:57.42 | thebug | 'accidently' toss some knives at you ;) |
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| 01:58.13 | beth | it's always so much fun when people google me |
| 01:58.19 | beth | I feel like a celebrity... :) |
| 01:58.36 | abrotman | just google for beth? |
| 01:59.04 | beth | and/or loxosceles.org |
| 01:59.13 | Vilim | can anyone give me a hand, I am attempting to install gnome 2.6, I previously had gnome 2.4 installed. I have a computer with gnome 2.6 already installed and am using identical sources.list on both of them, the only problem is that on the gnome 2.4 computer it refuses to upgrade to 2.6 |
| 01:59.16 | thebug | an e2ian too...good stuff, that |
| 01:59.23 | ekekos | peterS: mount for usbfs? where?, i looking into fstab but here is not usbfs mount |
| 01:59.30 | beth | I can also be fingered, if you're really good and sneaky |
| 01:59.45 | Vilim | I have messaged dpkg regarding gnome and it didn't help |
| 01:59.46 | beth | but since I got my cloak it's a bit harder :) |
| 01:59.57 | Den | Vilim: unstable has 80% of 2.6 now ;) |
| 02:00.00 | abrotman | beth: im sorry you lived in pittsburgh .. my brothers live there |
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| 02:00.13 | beth | abrotman: pittsburgh is very cool. I'm sorry I live in NJ :P |
| 02:00.13 | peterS | ekekos: you can add it to fstab. a line like: none /proc/bus/usb usbfs devgid=105,devmode=660 0 0 |
| 02:00.25 | peterS | ekekos: where 105 is some group ID |
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| 02:00.35 | abrotman | beth: yes .. that is worse :) .. i did some work in newark |
| 02:00.48 | beth | uggh |
| 02:00.53 | abrotman | exactly |
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| 02:01.04 | abrotman | beth: at a jail no less :) |
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| 02:01.06 | zignig | .who |
| 02:01.12 | ekekos | peterS: ok, group 100 for me |
| 02:01.17 | Vilim | when will it be in unstable in completion, if its just a day or so I can just wait |
| 02:01.27 | abrotman | i have a feeling ill be visiting every jail in NJ at some point |
| 02:01.31 | ekekos | peterS: then a remount? |
| 02:01.35 | abrotman | already been to cowtown and newark |
| 02:01.43 | beth | "cowtown"?? |
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| 02:01.51 | Den | Vilim: i think end of this week |
| 02:01.53 | mdh | I like beth's abuse of google's PageRank... its classy |
| 02:01.53 | peterS | ekekos: that doesn't seem to help, actually. I think the module that provides usb maintains state across mounts, so you'd have to reboot to see if it actually worked |
| 02:01.53 | abrotman | yes .. cowtown,nj |
| 02:01.58 | peterS | ekekos: or something like that |
| 02:02.04 | peterS | ekekos: meanwhile, the chmod will make it work *now* |
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| 02:02.17 | abrotman | beth: http://www.njsouth.com/index-cowtown.htm |
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| 02:02.37 | Den | Vilim: but best to ask in #gnome-debian on irc.gnome.org ;) |
| 02:02.37 | abrotman | beth: i was actually in salem .. but more people know where cowtown is |
| 02:02.44 | dan2 | bob2: wakeup! |
| 02:02.47 | AdrianLP | Ok, this should match beginning of line character, then it will match three consecutive letters: ^\w{3} But for some reason it does not match a line starting with: May Where have I gone wrong with such a simple pattern? |
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| 02:03.00 | Guerin | Den: you mean irc.gimp.org |
| 02:03.03 | abrotman | dan2: you could just call ops :) |
| 02:03.13 | ekekos | peterS: now all is right i'm very happy, thank you very much |
| 02:03.17 | tjs | where can I find a sparc ISO with a 2.6 kernel? Im having trouble with the installer addressing 8gig mem, and its woody which is the 2.2 kernel? the issue is that it cant get enough mem for the initial ramdisk, all the solutions ive found involve ripping out ram, but all the ram is spread across the various CPUs and Its in a secure machine room, so thats not a great option, Im hoping if I can get a 2.6 kernel installer it will be fine with the 8gig ram. |
| 02:03.19 | peterS | ekekos: have fun |
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| 02:03.27 | mdh | AdrianLP: \w is a perl regexpism |
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| 02:03.30 | abrotman | tjs: #debian-boot |
| 02:03.37 | abrotman | !special installers |
| 02:03.37 | dpkg | somebody said special installers was http://www.linuxmafia.com/faq/Debian/installers.html |
| 02:03.38 | tjs | ah cheers |
| 02:03.43 | zignig | beth: has the tegu escaped on occasion ? |
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| 02:04.03 | AdrianLP | mdh: I grabbed it from the logcheck readme files. Will this expression not work in VI, which is where i'm testing it? |
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| 02:04.11 | dondelelcaro | tjs: you might also have better luck with the d-i installer using the 2.6 kernel on it. |
| 02:04.16 | Den | Guerin: im useing irc.gnome.org but i think there the same servers ;) |
| 02:04.31 | dondelelcaro | tjs: although, you'll have to do a little bit of work to get it to install woody instead of sarge. |
| 02:04.36 | mdh | AdrianLP: depends. on what program your 'vi' is, and how it implements regexp. |
| 02:04.36 | beth | zignig: the tegus have free run of the house |
| 02:04.40 | Guerin | Den: yeah, they redirect ... but it's actually CALLED irc.gimp.org |
| 02:04.41 | tjs | I can live with sarge |
| 02:04.50 | AdrianLP | mdh: Hrm. |
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| 02:04.54 | abrotman | !tell tjs about d-i |
| 02:05.02 | mdh | AdrianLP: I always have trouble with regexps in vim for example because it implements them on top of its own pattern matching stuff... or perhaps vice versa |
| 02:05.02 | zignig | beth: eek , no a big reptile fan myself ;) |
| 02:05.13 | tjs | abrotman, thanks |
| 02:05.14 | Den | Guerin: thats nice |
| 02:05.15 | beth | zignig: aww they're cute |
| 02:05.27 | beth | zignig: see the one of the tegu eating strawberries? :D |
| 02:05.38 | Q4Man | anyone know if there is a precompiled windows port of gnucash? |
| 02:05.41 | Guerin | Den: I know, give me the "who gives a fuck" award then... |
| 02:05.50 | abrotman | Q4Man: cygwin? |
| 02:06.12 | AdrianLP | mdh: I suppose it doesn't work with grep either? I just tested it with Grep, and grep does not find any lines starting with three letters, of which there are plenty. |
| 02:06.12 | abrotman | yay! |
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| 02:06.33 | Q4Man | I'm trying to get a windows devotee setup on gnucash, and if I can avoid having him install cygwin, that'd be a plus |
| 02:06.44 | abrotman | gnucash.org? |
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| 02:07.17 | mdh | AdrianLP: \w *may* work if you force extended regexps... leeme check the man page |
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| 02:07.35 | beth | mdh: what are you trying to do? |
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| 02:08.24 | beth | mdh: you know about [:alpha:] and stuff, right? |
| 02:08.42 | mdh | beth: AdrianLP is taking a crash course in regexps for dummies ;) trying to match stuff in a auth.log file |
| 02:09.03 | mdh | beth: I do, yes. Dunno about AdrianLP... |
| 02:09.23 | mdh | its [[:alpha:]] too of course |
| 02:09.35 | AdrianLP | mdh: I use exact patterns that logcheck docs say, and such doesn't match what I need. |
| 02:09.36 | beth | [:alpha:] is the character |
| 02:09.51 | beth | [[:alpha:]] is a character class containing it |
| 02:10.04 | ekekos | good bye, i 'm scanning ;) |
| 02:10.10 | AdrianLP | mdh: Methinks the expression if fine, I'm thinking it's something wrong with my config. Perhaps the pattern file has to be somethign specific. The docs don't seem to say. |
| 02:10.14 | beth | (fun fact: perl regexps understand that too) |
| 02:10.52 | mdh | AdrianLP: you can try "egrep" or "grep -E" .. the man page says \w is a synonym for [[:alnum:]] |
| 02:10.55 | cafuego | !kill perl |
| 02:11.03 | abrotman | odd |
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| 02:12.02 | AdrianLP | mdh: Will try, thank you. |
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| 02:12.44 | mdh | beth: [:alpha:] is the character class, [[:alpha:]] is the bracketed expression to match something in that class ;) |
| 02:13.22 | mdh | you know what I hat the most about MS Windows? It makes me forget useful things off the top of my head... like the grep man page |
| 02:13.27 | Hyp3rion | whats the difference? |
| 02:13.30 | Caesar | Does anyone know specifically where at Broadcom I'd have to send a nastigram regarding their lack of information on the AirPort Extreme wireless card? |
| 02:13.46 | abrotman | Caesar: get in line |
| 02:13.47 | beth | Hyp3rion: example: [[:alpha:][:space:]] |
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| 02:13.56 | abrotman | Caesar: but you should really harass apple |
| 02:14.14 | abrotman | Caesar: they chose to use it .. ask #opendarwin if they have a driver yet |
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| 02:14.34 | beth | not that apple will ever care about, y'know, anything |
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| 02:14.42 | Bz | how do you tell grep to only list lines which DONT have "OK" string in them? |
| 02:14.47 | mdh | Hyp3rion: the character class is like an alias to stop you having to do dumb things like [0-9a-zA-Z] - you can call it [:alnum:] instead |
| 02:14.50 | Hyp3rion | beth, 8-o okay i never understood perl :-( |
| 02:14.53 | peterS | Bz: grep -v |
| 02:15.17 | beth | Hyp3rion: that's not perl, that's posix! |
| 02:15.24 | kil04 | when apt-cache search aclocal, it return libguile-dev development headers and static library for libguile, why does it return this? does it contain what i need, or how does it choose which results it returns? |
| 02:15.39 | Hyp3rion | beth, oh. |
| 02:15.42 | abrotman | !find aclocal |
| 02:15.44 | mdh | Hyp3rion: get out of an english locale and see where [:alnum:] is better ;) |
| 02:15.49 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'aclocal' (7 shown; 23 total): (/usr/bin/aclocal-1.6) in devel/automake1.6 ;; (/usr/bin/aclocal-1.8) in devel/automake1.8 ;; (/usr/bin/aclocal-1.7) in devel/automake1.7 ;; (/usr/bin/aclocal-1.4) in devel/automake1.4 ;; (/usr/share/vdkb2/res/aclocal.m4) in devel/vdkbuilder2 ;; (/usr/share/libtool/libltdl/aclocal.m4) in devel/libtool ;; (/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/gnus/aclocal.m4) in news/gnus. |
| 02:16.05 | beth | Hyp3rion: but perl supports the posix char classes, because if it didn't that would mean there was something perl doesn't do :) |
| 02:16.10 | element | dpkg: we've told you before, please don't flood. :) |
| 02:16.10 | dpkg | bugger all, i dunno, element |
| 02:16.23 | beth | kil04: do an apt-cache show on libguile |
| 02:16.28 | mdh | Bz: grep -v "OK" foo |
| 02:16.30 | beth | kil04: the description mentions aclocal |
| 02:16.35 | Hyp3rion | beth, sure there are things perl doesnt do :-/ |
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| 02:17.01 | peterS | Hyp3rion: name something perl doesn't do that other programming languages do |
| 02:17.05 | beth | Hyp3rion: it makes me breakfast in the morning and fetches my newspaper when I come home |
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| 02:17.15 | dan2 | peterS: this is the strangest thing ever |
| 02:17.16 | Hyp3rion | beth, :-) |
| 02:17.29 | mdh | peterS: let you read and understand the code 6 months later |
| 02:17.35 | Bz | mdh, thanks. |
| 02:17.38 | peterS | mdh: it doesn't? |
| 02:17.42 | Hyp3rion | peterS, perl is not referentially transparent |
| 02:17.43 | disasm | abrotman: well, mailman works fine and dandy on my laptop... which means, i probly did something to it to break it... |
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| 02:17.48 | meepmeep | hi ! i just install my debian ... but under X my keyboard beco;e a QWERTY . where can i change it ? |
| 02:17.54 | abrotman | !punish disasm |
| 02:17.56 | mdh | peterS: well... that's a gross generalisation |
| 02:17.57 | dan2 | peterS: someone left a message on my message machine from pjack something or another and wanted to know when to deliver two boxes they claimed they had for me from Step2 Corp., the thing is, I never ordered anything |
| 02:17.59 | abrotman | eep |
| 02:18.10 | abrotman | disasm: did you ask #postfix? |
| 02:18.10 | peterS | Hyp3rion: "referentially transparent"? that's not a capability, that's a property |
| 02:18.19 | disasm | abrotman: yeah, no response yet |
| 02:18.23 | peterS | Hyp3rion: I didn't say name something perl *isn't*, I said name something perl doesn't *do* |
| 02:18.34 | mdh | meepmeep: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 02:18.44 | Hyp3rion | peterS, hmm. all programming languages have the same capability. turing-complete... (let alone FORTRAN...) |
| 02:18.51 | beth | mdh: setxkbmap will be helpful |
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| 02:19.02 | dan2 | peterS: any thoughts? |
| 02:19.02 | peterS | Hyp3rion: only in a theoretical sense. tell me something practical that perl doesn't let you do |