| 00:00.12 | bintrue | I'm having problems with Debian picking up my nameservers from my router running DHCP, it had no problem during the Netinstall, but every subsequant boot it can't resolve any Names until I manually edit resolv.conf, but autogenerates a new resolv.conf on reboot. |
| 00:00.18 | abydos | bah. |
| 00:00.21 | kisielk | Blissex: known problems? php4 seems to work with Apache fine on Gentoo.. |
| 00:00.45 | abydos | kisielk: debian != gentoo |
| 00:00.53 | simonrvn | bintrue: you can turn that off in dhclient.conf |
| 00:01.04 | abydos | kisielk: I'd know; I just moved from Gentoo to Debian last night |
| 00:01.06 | idnar | libapache2-php4 |
| 00:01.14 | simonrvn | that's it |
| 00:01.18 | DrPete | Blissex: I see, the buggers |
| 00:01.30 | loocek | hello all! i have question about lynx browser, does anybody know way to run lynx with e.g. "www.google.com" and.... expression for search at once ?? |
| 00:01.30 | simonrvn | i have: ii libapache2-mod-php4 4.3.4-4 A server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language |
| 00:01.31 | Blissex | kisielk: There are know thread safety problems with PHP4 on Apache2. Not recommended. |
| 00:01.33 | kisielk | abydos: well obviously, but some people still try to tell me that php4 has major problems on Apache2, which I believe is untrue |
| 00:01.39 | idnar | oh, whoops |
| 00:01.48 | bintrue | simonrvn - thanks I'll look into that |
| 00:01.51 | abydos | Can I apt-get update whilst aptitude is in the download phase? |
| 00:01.53 | samlander | loocek links browser is much better mate |
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| 00:02.00 | simonrvn | abydos: no |
| 00:02.03 | abydos | kisielk: Yeah. I know this as well. |
| 00:02.07 | gravity | abydos: No, because it locks the dpkg database |
| 00:02.07 | abydos | damn. |
| 00:02.14 | kisielk | Blissex: Well I am not running apache2 multithreaded anyway |
| 00:02.16 | gravity | Or apt database, not sure which |
| 00:02.30 | DrPete | Blissex: gradwell seem to offer alot |
| 00:02.31 | simonrvn | abydos: it locks the db, and for good reason. it'd get out of date otherwise, and out of sync |
| 00:02.32 | abydos | This is KDE we're apting, and I really don't want to have to redownload the packages again. |
| 00:02.38 | Blissex | kisielk: then perhaps it will work. Check that link then for Debian packages. |
| 00:02.49 | gravity | abydos: You don't have to. You can cancel the download and it'll resume where it left off |
| 00:02.55 | simonrvn | abydos: you don't. as long as you don't run apt-get clean, they're still there |
| 00:03.07 | DrPete | Blissex: Secondary DNS - SOHO 50 this the corect one |
| 00:03.09 | simonrvn | abydos: and like gravity said, it does do resume |
| 00:03.11 | abydos | simonrvn: hm. |
| 00:03.13 | loocek | oh, it doesn't mater....it can be links.....but if there is any way to do this ?? |
| 00:03.14 | simonrvn | gravity: hiya :) |
| 00:03.18 | abydos | Ehh, I'll just wait. |
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| 00:04.25 | mhall | How do I get AES encryption working in SSH? I can't connect to the remote host without it because the other algorithms are disable.d |
| 00:04.32 | mentor | loocek: Yes...but not in a way that parses the form and submits it...but you can jjust encode the data in a URl as requests usually are. |
| 00:04.40 | mentor | loocek: You may also be able to use curl? |
| 00:04.41 | simonrvn | mhall: ssh_config, or the user one |
| 00:04.57 | loocek | what is "curl" ? |
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| 00:04.59 | gpm | when's the downtime gonna end? |
| 00:05.08 | mentor | loocek: apt-cache show curl |
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| 00:05.23 | simonrvn | mhall: Cipher aes |
| 00:05.27 | abydos | gpm: When your mom ends. |
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| 00:05.36 | nornagon | Can someone help me with 'discover' and 'read-edid'? |
| 00:05.37 | abydos | gpm: No, just kidding. |
| 00:05.43 | loocek | ok, i'll try, thank's :) |
| 00:05.43 | Blissex | kisielk: http://lists.backports.org/pipermail/backports/2004-January/000112.html |
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| 00:05.45 | gpm | abydos: i gathered |
| 00:05.46 | gravity | nornagon: What do you want to know about them? |
| 00:05.51 | simonrvn | gpm: soon. now be quiet about it. you've asked or mentioned that 2 in the last half-hour |
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| 00:05.59 | mhall | simonrvn but when i do -c aes on the CLI it does not seem to work |
| 00:06.09 | gpm | simonrvn: yessir |
| 00:06.12 | simonrvn | mhall: *shrug* |
| 00:06.13 | Blissex | kisielk: http://www.linux.ie/pipermail/ilug/2004-March/012402.html |
| 00:06.13 | nornagon | Well, for a start, when I run 'discover', I get errors saying libdiscover doesn't exist |
| 00:06.16 | nornagon | not in those exact words |
| 00:06.25 | nornagon | but you get the drift.... |
| 00:06.27 | nornagon | XZD |
| 00:06.27 | nornagon | XD |
| 00:06.39 | gravity | nornagon: Then install libdiscover |
| 00:06.43 | gravity | Not too hard |
| 00:06.43 | simonrvn | duh |
| 00:06.48 | nornagon | I'll give it a go... |
| 00:06.58 | gravity | It should have installed, but who knows |
| 00:07.15 | green-ears | bintrue: etherconf may help its will let up set the box up for static or dynamic ip |
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| 00:08.41 | ceRE | I have a troubleshoting about debian's configuration |
| 00:08.52 | ceRE | anbody can help me |
| 00:08.59 | gravity | ceRE: Like I told you before, just ask your question |
| 00:09.01 | simonrvn | ceRE : Check #mindreaders. |
| 00:09.06 | nornagon | gravity: eek, when I try to do that, it tells me it has unmet dependencies, and to run 'apt-get -f install'. When I do that, it tries to install xserver-xfree86 (which SHOULD already be installed...), then throws a bunch of errors o_O |
| 00:09.17 | mhall | !tell ceRE abot ask |
| 00:09.30 | mhall | !tell cere about ask |
| 00:09.35 | gravity | nornagon: What are the unmet dependencies? |
| 00:09.48 | gravity | nornagon: And what are you running? Unstable? |
| 00:09.50 | simonrvn | nornagon : Please ask questions that are specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. |
| 00:09.54 | nornagon | I'll post them in #flood |
| 00:09.58 | Blissex | nornagon: it usually helps a lot to use a semi graphical or grapbhical dependency manager like 'aptitude' or 'synaptic' |
| 00:09.59 | nornagon | testing |
| 00:10.05 | ceRE | . |
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| 00:10.32 | ceRE | my X server dont run correctly |
| 00:10.33 | nornagon | okay, thanks Blissex |
| 00:10.40 | green-ears | bintrue: sorry badly worded, etherconf may help it will let you set up your box for static or dynamic ip |
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| 00:10.53 | nornagon | Blissex: eek, it keeps telling me to apt-get -f install. |
| 00:10.57 | zophyx | ..ooOO |
| 00:11.00 | simonrvn | nornagon: so do it |
| 00:11.04 | simonrvn | ... |
| 00:11.12 | gravity | nornagon: Why are you installing libdiscover-dev? |
| 00:11.12 | nornagon | I have. |
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| 00:11.16 | nornagon | It screws up. |
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| 00:11.24 | simonrvn | @lart nornagon |
| 00:11.26 | Blissex | nornagon: dont worry, that's just as an example. |
| 00:11.33 | nornagon | "xserver-xfree86 failed to preconfigure, with exit status 127" |
| 00:11.38 | gravity | nornagon: And all those other -dev packages? Are you going to be developing programs with them? |
| 00:11.45 | nornagon | no |
| 00:11.47 | obake | conan was the name of my dog |
| 00:11.54 | nornagon | I did apt-get install libdiscover* |
| 00:12.05 | green-ears | ceRE: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 so that you can have a look at the set up |
| 00:12.22 | gravity | Riiiiight |
| 00:12.30 | gravity | Wild cards are bad when you don't know what you're doing, mmmkay? |
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| 00:12.38 | nornagon | Okay. |
| 00:12.42 | Sakina | I pasted the log, simonrvn |
| 00:12.45 | Sakina | simonrvn, I use intel 82845 GE/GL/GM/PV graphics controller, which is not given in option. So I'm not able to start X server |
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| 00:12.57 | nornagon | But, I did what the bot told me to do, and it unisnstalled xserver-xfree86 o_O |
| 00:13.01 | gravity | nornagon: This is why you should use aptitude, dselect, or synaptic in general, like someone else mentioned |
| 00:13.10 | sussudio | HansTexugo |
| 00:13.12 | Neemz | is there any obvious reason why a debian box would be able to accept incomming connections but not make outbound connections of its own? |
| 00:13.15 | simonrvn | Sakina: what does lspci tell you about the video? look for 'VGA' (no quotes) |
| 00:13.20 | Neemz | There is no firewall in place yet |
| 00:13.36 | green-ears | ceRE: are your monitor refresh rates right and the video card memory set right ? |
| 00:14.01 | ceRE | yeah |
| 00:14.10 | gravity | nornagon: Basically, you should be able to purge those -dev packages and get rid of those errors |
| 00:14.14 | gravity | nornagon: Since you don't need them |
| 00:14.20 | nornagon | okay |
| 00:14.41 | gravity | mmm... ice cream |
| 00:14.42 | nornagon | just apt-get remove libdiscover*-dev? |
| 00:14.47 | mentor | loocek: /topic and /msg apt guidelines. |
| 00:14.50 | gravity | nornagon: Sure |
| 00:14.55 | nornagon | ok |
| 00:14.57 | gravity | nornagon: And the other ones that are giving you troubles |
| 00:15.10 | loocek | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:15.22 | nornagon | ok |
| 00:15.28 | mentor | ~tell loocek about repeat |
| 00:15.39 | simonrvn | Sakina: hmm, seems it's not able to start the server at all. what release of debian are you using? (you can tell by looking at sources.list) |
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| 00:15.56 | Sakina | simonrvn, VGA Compatible Controller: Intel corp.: Unknown device 2562(rev 01) |
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| 00:16.17 | xenome | is there a command line command for printing with cups? |
| 00:16.30 | Sakina | cat: /etc/sources.list: No such file or directory |
| 00:16.38 | Sakina | oops |
| 00:16.39 | nornagon | Eek, it keeps telling me to apt-get -f install, because it can't find xserver-xfree86, because it doesn't exist, because what the stupid bot told me to do removed it o_O |
| 00:16.45 | gravity | xenome: cat myfile | /dev/lpr or something similar |
| 00:16.47 | simonrvn | gar |
| 00:16.50 | Nurbs | xenome: cupsys-client, cupsys-bsd (for sysv and bsd-tools) |
| 00:16.58 | simonrvn | Buffer I/O error on device sdc3, logical block 81949 |
| 00:16.58 | simonrvn | lost page write due to I/O error on sdc3 |
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| 00:17.10 | Nurbs | xenome: apt-cache search cupsys |
| 00:17.17 | simonrvn | looks like i need another drive. that's my boot part. |
| 00:17.21 | DrPete | Blissex: I love there interface very nice. |
| 00:17.31 | mentor | loocek: Do a searcch on goggle in your browser and look at the URL of the results page? |
| 00:17.31 | FlyByte | my joystick will only work as root,i would surely like to fix it :) |
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| 00:17.37 | gravity | nornagon: Go for it then |
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| 00:17.48 | Neemz | if something was wrong with the hostname settings could that explain why my box can only accept connections and not make any of its own? |
| 00:17.48 | simonrvn | Sakina: no need to paste it, just look at it in a pager (less or more) |
| 00:17.50 | ceRE | when they are going to release debian sarge |
| 00:17.54 | nornagon | gravity: go for what? |
| 00:18.00 | gravity | ceRE: When it's ready |
| 00:18.06 | gravity | nornagon: Install xserver-xfree86 |
| 00:18.07 | nornagon | gravity: apt-get -f install does nothing but complain. |
| 00:18.11 | xenome | Nurbs: I tried cupsys-bsd, but it says it depends on a package that can't be installed |
| 00:18.15 | Blissex | DrPete: yes, I think they provide a good service for a number of annoying net problems. |
| 00:18.16 | nornagon | It just complains. |
| 00:18.20 | gravity | nornagon: About what? |
| 00:18.20 | Sakina | simonrvn, where does that file reside? :) |
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| 00:18.24 | nornagon | I'll just get the errors |
| 00:18.27 | simonrvn | Sakina: /etc/apt/ |
| 00:18.28 | gravity | nornagon: Complain doesn't mean anything |
| 00:18.33 | ceRE | more or less for when |
| 00:18.34 | nornagon | I know. |
| 00:18.35 | Blissex | Neemz: thats unlikely. |
| 00:18.39 | xenome | cupsys-bsd: Depends: libcupsys2-gnutls10 (>= 1.1.20final-1) but it is not going to be installed |
| 00:18.39 | xenome | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:18.42 | nornagon | I'm just grabbing the errors |
| 00:18.45 | Nurbs | xenome: you should know how to solve that if you don't use stable :) |
| 00:18.49 | loocek | i want automatically search something on e.g. google and save some results lines in file........ |
| 00:18.52 | nornagon | xserver-xfree86 failed to preconfigure, with exit status 127 |
| 00:18.58 | nornagon | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xserver-xfree86_4.3.0.dfsg.1-1_i386.deb (--unpack): |
| 00:18.58 | dpkg | You are moron #7, nornagon |
| 00:19.01 | nornagon | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:19.16 | loocek | you say "curl" , why do not "wget" ? |
| 00:19.22 | nornagon | three lines is flooding? o_O |
| 00:19.24 | gravity | nornagon: You've found a bug in the package |
| 00:19.28 | xenome | Nurbs: with the -t command? |
| 00:19.32 | nornagon | oh, yay. |
| 00:19.34 | nornagon | >< |
| 00:19.41 | drijen | good evening all |
| 00:19.44 | gravity | maybe |
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| 00:19.46 | green-ears | ceRE: another way to check xserver set up is to run knoppix and have a look at its xserver config file |
| 00:19.52 | mentor | loocek: IIRC curl had some automatic ~HTML form stuff. I could be wrong tho'. |
| 00:19.54 | gravity | nornagon: Try and find out what the error is from the package script itself |
| 00:19.55 | xenome | or not |
| 00:20.09 | ceRE | ok |
| 00:20.12 | simonrvn | ceRE: and copy it to somewhere, using it as either an example, or as the install config |
| 00:20.12 | nornagon | eek, I know, like, nothing about that stuff >.< |
| 00:20.15 | Nurbs | xenome: no, by getting the correct packages out of some archives (archives.debian.net?) or waiting for fixed dependencies |
| 00:20.15 | ceRE | it's a good idea |
| 00:20.22 | loocek | ok , i'll read man |
| 00:20.23 | Sakina | simonrvn, Debian 3.0 r2_woody |
| 00:20.32 | gravity | nornagon: Are you running unstable or testing? |
| 00:20.38 | nornagon | testing |
| 00:20.56 | simonrvn | Sakina: ok. the x stuff might be too old for your video. how old/new is your video? |
| 00:20.56 | gravity | nornagon: You know what... get rid of discover and read-edid and try again |
| 00:21.03 | nornagon | ok |
| 00:21.14 | gravity | nornagon: It may be a bug in the script that uses those programs, since you had no troubles with it before |
| 00:21.16 | Sakina | Not so old.., simonrvn |
| 00:21.23 | nornagon | it tells me to apt-get -f install >< |
| 00:21.26 | Sakina | It's pretty new. |
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| 00:21.39 | DrPete | Blissex: right so I have given them my domain and my dns IP, so I give my webhost the ns from gradwell |
| 00:21.42 | simonrvn | Sakina: it's possible then. you might have to upgrade to sarge... |
| 00:21.47 | gravity | nornagon: Use dselect to try and set up a bunch of operations at once |
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| 00:21.54 | Sakina | ok.. |
| 00:21.56 | nornagon | ok |
| 00:21.57 | gravity | nornagon: You should not be using apt-get since you obviously don't know what you're doing |
| 00:21.58 | xenome | Nurbs: do you know what command you're suppose to give gimp to be able to print from it |
| 00:22.00 | FlyByte | i would be eternally gratefull if someone here could tell me how to get my joystick working as a user, it works as root. |
| 00:22.02 | Sakina | How do I do that?, simonrvn |
| 00:22.04 | bintrue | hmm using etherconf to even set up a manual IP, including DNS and resolv.conf is blank. |
| 00:22.07 | simonrvn | !tell Sakina -about woody->sarge |
| 00:22.09 | Nurbs | xenome: no |
| 00:22.19 | simonrvn | Sakina: read what the bot told you |
| 00:22.25 | nornagon | gravity: ok |
| 00:22.43 | mEEgo | whats the difference between sid and testing? |
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| 00:22.54 | Sakina | simonrvn, read :) |
| 00:22.59 | simonrvn | sid is suicide if you don't know what you're doing |
| 00:23.17 | gravity | indeed |
| 00:23.34 | simonrvn | and a headache for us ;) |
| 00:23.37 | gravity | hehe |
| 00:24.13 | green-ears | bintrue: with etherconf did you add your dns for your static ip set up ? |
| 00:24.30 | drijen|afk | FlyByte, is there not a user group for game or joystick? |
| 00:24.41 | Sakina | simonrvn, and _r2_ remains as it is? |
| 00:24.44 | FlyByte | there is for game but not joystick |
| 00:24.45 | xenome | Nurbs: I can install libcupsys2-gnutls10, the package it wants, but if I do so... it wants to remove KDE |
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| 00:24.55 | gravity | Man... new X + gnome. This is one of the longest updates I've ever done |
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| 00:24.59 | drijen|afk | FlyByte, have you added your user to that group? |
| 00:25.06 | Nurbs | xenome: you've got to live with that :) |
| 00:25.10 | simonrvn | Sakina: what? |
| 00:25.13 | FlyByte | yes my name is in game |
| 00:25.20 | simonrvn | games |
| 00:25.21 | drijen|afk | FlyByte, hmmm |
| 00:25.28 | nornagon | gravity: I once upgraded from woody to unstable, then back to testing ;) |
| 00:25.34 | FlyByte | but i will double check for a joystick |
| 00:25.38 | FlyByte | 1 sec |
| 00:25.55 | simonrvn | drijen|afk: the joystick stuff isn't group games, only the game binaries are (i think, i might be wrong) |
| 00:25.55 | Infohawk | How can I find out if the s3 driver supports 3d in debian unstable |
| 00:26.03 | Sinistrad | gravity, while updating X+gnome over here, most of gnome died ... so now I'm sitting here with just metacity running :( |
| 00:26.07 | Neemz | gravity: I compiled everything with gentoo..... |
| 00:26.10 | drijen|afk | simonrvn, ah |
| 00:26.16 | Sakina | simonrvn, Can I PM you? |
| 00:26.45 | simonrvn | Sakina: ok |
| 00:26.46 | FlyByte | joystcik isnt listed |
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| 00:27.23 | mentor | drijen|afk: But you're clever enough to talk on IRC without using your keyboard... |
| 00:27.32 | simonrvn | mentor: heh |
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| 00:28.26 | DrPete | Blissex: you still there? |
| 00:28.28 | drijen|afk | mentor, i lost my fingers in a bad car accident 2 years ago, i use voice contorl |
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| 00:29.03 | Neemz | with added bad spelling for realism? |
| 00:29.09 | mentor | drijen|afk: So AFK is permanent? |
| 00:29.14 | drijen|afk | FlyByte, seeing my lack of knowledge, i'm hitting up google |
| 00:29.47 | drijen | Neemz, of course :-p |
| 00:30.06 | FlyByte | thanks |
| 00:30.21 | drijen | FlyByte, is this a USB joystick or the usual game port? |
| 00:30.25 | FlyByte | usb |
| 00:30.26 | Neemz | its getting bad when im having to cut my toenails with my penknife....... |
| 00:30.44 | simonrvn | Neemz: TMI |
| 00:30.48 | holycow | thanks for sharing |
| 00:30.51 | holycow | now fuck off |
| 00:30.52 | holycow | :) |
| 00:30.53 | drijen | oh yeah, TMI |
| 00:30.57 | holycow | hehehehe |
| 00:30.57 | holycow | :) |
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| 00:31.02 | rich_ | Neemz Really? You mean when the slaves wont do it? |
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| 00:31.20 | rich_ | How else would one cut their toe nails? |
| 00:31.33 | Neemz | rich_, money is tight lately, only been renting the one slave and its sleeping |
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| 00:32.03 | drijen | FlyByte, have you tried the kernel driver for joysticks? |
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| 00:32.07 | mentor | At least you don't have to cut your slaves with your penknife |
| 00:32.21 | FlyByte | no i havent, since it works perfectly as root |
| 00:32.21 | gravity | Haha! Victory is almost mine! |
| 00:32.26 | gravity | Everything but dri |
| 00:32.37 | FlyByte | was scared to mess it right up |
| 00:32.37 | drijen | http://www.linuxgames.com/joystick/ |
| 00:32.45 | daxxar | why doesn't shutdown -h now or shutdown -P -h now actually TURN OFF my computer? |
| 00:32.48 | FlyByte | ok thanks gonna look there |
| 00:32.57 | bintrue | green-ears yes, I inputed my DNS ips into etherconf, and I've also tried adding "prepend domain-name-servers (ip)" into dhclient.conf. Neither has worked |
| 00:33.04 | drijen | FlyByte, there seems to be a bunch of modules under development |
| 00:33.17 | drijen | brb, my d/l just died for no reason |
| 00:33.19 | gravity | Although I've finally got 2d acceleration. Finally! No more VESA! |
| 00:33.26 | FlyByte | ok, |
| 00:33.59 | Neemz | fingers smell strangely cheesy.... |
| 00:34.20 | drijen | back |
| 00:34.35 | peterS | gravity: w00t! what graphics card? |
| 00:34.51 | Neemz | how lazy am I, i've got a VNC session running simply because im too lazy to walk accross the room to my laptop |
| 00:34.57 | mentor | bastard. |
| 00:34.58 | gravity | peterS: Radeon IGP 340M |
| 00:35.05 | drijen | gravity, ewww |
| 00:35.08 | peterS | ah, newish stuff |
| 00:35.19 | green-ears | bintrue: if you are using static ip your dns only go in etc/resolv.conf |
| 00:35.21 | gravity | peterS: Yeah. Branden backported it for this release. |
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| 00:36.05 | bintrue | green-ears, I've tried manually editing resolv.conf but it gets reset every boot |
| 00:36.09 | drijen | would anyone be kind enough to mail me the debian sarge cd package, in return for shipping costs and a little extra to cover thier effort? |
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| 00:36.31 | Psyke | why do i get "mount: fs type devfs not spported by kernel" when i boot |
| 00:36.37 | soren | hi, is there an idiot proff easy way to install java support for my firefox etc. on my debian system? |
| 00:37.02 | drijen | soren, apt-get java |
| 00:37.17 | drijen | and no thats not the exact packge name |
| 00:37.41 | soren | drijen that is not at package! |
| 00:37.43 | drijen | Psyke, what FS and what kernel |
| 00:37.55 | mentor | drijen: You might try looking on the list of CD vendors |
| 00:38.02 | green-ears | bintrue: your dhcp must still be working then. that whats must be over writing them ? may be |
| 00:38.17 | Psyke | drijen not sure what fs... 2.6.5 |
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| 00:38.27 | Neemz | lo? |
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| 00:38.40 | soren | drijen and bye the way the wrong syntaks |
| 00:38.45 | drijen | mentor, i was going to buy from a vendor, but most of them charge a fortune, and i really don't trust online companies other than newegg |
| 00:38.50 | sussudio | haha you misspelled syntax |
| 00:39.00 | sussudio | !lose soren |
| 00:39.01 | dpkg | soren: You Lose. |
| 00:39.02 | soren | sussudio yes sorry |
| 00:39.03 | drijen | sin tax he means, :-p |
| 00:39.09 | mentor | sussudio: It's better than spelling speling wrong. |
| 00:39.22 | sussudio | mentor: or grammer |
| 00:39.30 | bintrue | green-ears: any idea what would be preventing debian from getting the DNS from the DHCP? I have multiple machines and past debian machines that had no problems. |
| 00:39.46 | Psyke | www.resellerratings.com will tell you about most online vendors |
| 00:39.50 | drijen | mentor, besides most only offer woody, and the only woody i like is when my gf is around |
| 00:39.55 | sussudio | Psyke: spammm? |
| 00:40.08 | soren | and could still need a little help with my stand java support.... |
| 00:40.20 | Psyke | sussudio nope... drijen said he didn't trust online vendors... thts where u can get reviews |
| 00:40.20 | mentor | sussudio: No, that would be better than grammaring you. |
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| 00:41.02 | gravity | Man, the gnome team did a great job. All my settings moved just fine and everything. |
| 00:41.24 | mentor | hmmm... |
| 00:42.36 | holycow | hehehehe |
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| 00:42.38 | holycow | *sniff* |
| 00:42.43 | holycow | smells like toast |
| 00:42.43 | holycow | :D |
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| 00:42.58 | obake | holymoo |
| 00:42.59 | kyll | can someone recommend a good profiling program for c++ progs? |
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| 00:43.21 | mentor | Now stop fighting in the War Room! |
| 00:43.53 | Blissex | kyll: depends on which type of profiling. People usually use for some types of profiling 'gcc -p' and 'gprof'. |
| 00:44.01 | green-ears | bintrue: you are be hind a router, as the router got a limit on the ip's it give out. say from 1 to 100. and have when you set your static up it must be above the number |
| 00:44.10 | Blissex | kyll: there are many many many more. |
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| 00:45.00 | bintrue | green-ears, not the problem at all :) |
| 00:46.35 | hackeron | anyone knows a nice small text based mp3/ogg file with an equilizer (or atleast a bass/tremble regulator)... (and no, I cant get a better sound card for this laptop, and I dont want anything external or to get a new laptop) |
| 00:46.45 | mentor | file? |
| 00:46.56 | b00gie | player? |
| 00:47.12 | hackeron | player yes, sorry |
| 00:47.33 | Blissex | kyll: for a completely different way of profiling from 'gprof', have a look here http://user.it.uu.se/~mikpe/linux/perfctr/2.7/ANNOUNCE-2.7.2 (x86 specific) |
| 00:47.39 | nkuttler | hackeron: cplay, though no equalizer |
| 00:48.00 | green-ears | bintrue: you said that you just set the box up for static and the dns were being replaced. it may because of the ip router limit seting for the ip's it give out. sorry a bit for confusing |
| 00:48.26 | drijen | take care, everyone |
| 00:48.36 | hackeron | nkuttler: well, then bass treble regulator, and cplay doesnt have that either |
| 00:48.44 | b00gie | any1 knows how to make debian setup to recognize sil680 controller? |
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| 00:49.03 | nkuttler | hackeron: that's why you have an amp... don't you? |
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| 00:49.16 | hackeron | nkuttler: what, an amp for headphones? |
| 00:49.29 | hackeron | nkuttler: also amps to NOT have that, thats recievers! |
| 00:49.45 | kyll | Blissex, im interested in see how the load is for each function. so i can see what functions needs to be improved speedwise |
| 00:49.47 | nkuttler | hackeron: google for noxmms |
| 00:49.55 | b00gie | anyone with sil680 raid controller? |
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| 00:50.11 | hackeron | nkuttler: does it require xmms? |
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| 00:51.01 | Blissex | kyll: doing that sensibly requires a lot of knowledge. There are many types of "load". Just choosing what to profile is not a trivial exercise. |
| 00:51.02 | Fluten | is debian good for production environments? |
| 00:51.03 | bintrue | green-ears: lemme start over. for some reason my DHCP isn't giving a debian machine the DNS ip's. So I've editted /etc/dhclient.conf with "request domain-name-servers;" and "prepend domain-name-servers xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" and after /etc/init.d/networking restart, xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx doesn't show up in resolv.conf which prevents me from resolving any name. |
| 00:51.22 | Blissex | Fluten: Debian 'stable' is particularly designed for production environments. |
| 00:52.10 | Blissex | bintrue: that can be due either to having configured whatever DHCP client you use not to upgrade '/etc/resolv.conf', or having exceeded the length of a DHCP packet with extensions. |
| 00:52.47 | Fluten | Blissex, so will upgrading a package not break something? |
| 00:52.51 | Fluten | Blissex, like using gentoo did to me |
| 00:52.55 | Blissex | b00gie: try installing Knoppix instead, it is much easier and fairly similar to most people's idea of Debian. |
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| 00:53.14 | bintrue | Blissex: this is off a very fresh install of debian. Where would something be configured to not upgrade '/etc/resolv.conf'? |
| 00:53.19 | Blissex | Fluten: with 'stable' it is very very unlikely that upgrading will break anything. |
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| 00:53.46 | kyll | Blissex, so something simple like to see how many procent of the total time each function uses is not possible? |
| 00:53.52 | Blissex | bintrue: depending on the DHCP client you use, you need usually to explicitly permit '/etc/resolv.conf' updates. |
| 00:54.10 | b00gie | Blissex, debian's kernel is old... thats y i cant install it |
| 00:54.12 | b00gie | :/ |
| 00:54.25 | DrPete | Blissex: Well I think I am all setup, I have allowed transferred, deligated the domain to gradwell NS. Bit unsure about my master zone config |
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| 00:54.43 | Blissex | b00gie: Knoppix's kernel is not old. You can also get an installable version of 'testing'. |
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| 00:55.00 | Blissex | DrPete: and what's the perplexity? |
| 00:55.05 | simonrvn | Blissex: resolv.conf updates are default with debian's dhclient |
| 00:55.17 | simonrvn | Blissex: that might be an upstream thing |
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| 00:55.30 | b00gie | i prefer debian stable;p |
| 00:55.31 | MrJeff | I very stupidly deleted /dev/hdc.. please could someone tell me how to get it back? |
| 00:55.32 | Blissex | kyll: that is not simple at all. The percent of _which_ time? Is time what you want to look at? |
| 00:55.50 | sussudio | MrJeff: you deleted what? |
| 00:55.51 | Blissex | MrJeff: check 'man MAKEDEV' out. |
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| 00:55.53 | simonrvn | MrJeff: restore from backups |
| 00:56.11 | Blissex | simonrvn: that is a bit extreme for deleting a device special file... |
| 00:56.18 | engi | i am having some trouble getting my networking setup on a fresh install - everytime i used the configure network setting the system locked so i omitted it - now when i run ifconfig eth0 i get nothing - not even a loopback - does anyone have a solution to this? |
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| 00:56.18 | MrJeff | simon: no, I deleted the file /dev/hdc |
| 00:56.41 | simonrvn | MrJeff: MAKEDEV then :) |
| 00:56.44 | sussudio | MrJeff: no restore it |
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| 00:57.36 | obake | D ? |
| 00:57.39 | DrPete | Blissex: I have setup the zone file, the NX feilds I use the gradwell servers right? |
| 00:57.45 | obake | http://www.digitalmars.com/d/comparison.html |
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| 00:58.17 | kyll | Blissex, the user cpu time |
| 00:58.20 | Blissex | MrJeff: however, as it is Xmas, a shortcut should be 'mknod /dev/hdc b 22 0' and then set ownership and permission appropriately. btu 'MAKEDEB' does that for you. |
| 00:58.45 | Blissex | kyll: that is not so well defined. |
| 00:59.17 | Blissex | kyll: however, just use 'perfctr' if you use an x86 based system. Link mentioned above. |
| 00:59.34 | kyll | Blissex, ok thanks |
| 01:00.00 | Blissex | engi: you need to load a driver for your ethernet card, you need to know which one. |
| 01:00.27 | soren22 | I have now Sun java installed - how do I get it to work in firefox? |
| 01:00.43 | MrJeff | woo, I have back my hdc. now this time I'll remember which way around the parameters go on the ln call |
| 01:01.03 | MrJeff | thanks |
| 01:01.33 | mxn | Without using something like samba, how might two Linux boxes send files to each other quickly and easily over a network? |
| 01:01.42 | CompWizrd | scp |
| 01:01.50 | CompWizrd | or nfs, i suppose |
| 01:02.18 | zamolxes | mxn scp is also secure |
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