| 00:00.12 | *** part/#debian smmerf (~smmerf@he134.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 00:00.18 | green-earss | loke_: its one of the front ends it as |
| 00:00.19 | steven_ | whats the difference between a dynamic dns and a static dns |
| 00:00.20 | loke_ | green-earss: what are all the files in my /usr/src/linux dir? |
| 00:00.31 | saloxin | lilo != superblock |
| 00:00.31 | loke_ | green-earss: gotcha |
| 00:00.43 | Ocean | steven_: dynamic means ur ip changes, static means it stays the same |
| 00:00.56 | steven_ | thanks a lot |
| 00:00.58 | Ocean | saloxin: yo mean superblock != mbr |
| 00:01.00 | green-earss | loke_: that your kernel source |
| 00:01.22 | loke_ | shouldnt the source be in /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.24? |
| 00:01.42 | saloxin | Ocean: yes. they are scattered around in the filesystem, at somewhat regular intervals.. I have never recovered one though :( |
| 00:01.42 | loke_ | oh we linked it correct? |
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| 00:01.52 | thomas_adam | !+ur |
| 00:01.53 | dpkg | Ur is the ancient Sumerian city that dominated Mesopotamia from 6000 BC to 600 BC. If you mean "you are" or "your", just say so. |
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| 00:02.14 | green-earss | loke_: it is but you made a system link ln -s |
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| 00:02.43 | loke_ | symbolic ln right |
| 00:02.45 | green-earss | loke_: from kernel-source to linux |
| 00:02.48 | McCheese | If GAIM keeps crashing when I try to send IMs, will restarting help? |
| 00:03.02 | green-earss | loke_: that right |
| 00:03.15 | loke_ | green-earss: cause im gonna try to install ati drivers and i know the drivers use /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.24 |
| 00:03.31 | loke_ | in the makefile |
| 00:03.57 | green-earss | loke_: be carefull |
| 00:03.58 | thomas_adam | McCheese: running unstable? |
| 00:04.12 | green-earss | loke_: woody or sarge ? |
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| 00:04.31 | saloxin | Ocean: man mke2fs says "-n doesn't do it, ... can be used to determine location of backup superblocks"... |
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| 00:05.22 | gpm | hi. i just fetchmailed into ~/mail/mbox and set it up as the default folder in mutt, but it thinks it isn't a mailbox...did i do something wrong? |
| 00:05.24 | McCheese | I am not. |
| 00:05.33 | loke_ | green-earss: sarge |
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| 00:05.48 | McCheese | Oh, I messaged that in the wrong channel; I'm on Mandrake. |
| 00:05.54 | loke_ | i tried woody but it was really hard because it didnt include drivers for my NIC |
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| 00:06.03 | green-earss | loke_: same here and i like it |
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| 00:06.21 | sparr | what does this signify in /var/log/messages? "-- MARK --" |
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| 00:06.41 | thomas_adam | McCheese: Well, to answer your question, restarting it may/maynot work. Just try it and see. |
| 00:06.43 | kvn | sparr: That time passed, and syslogd was OK. |
| 00:06.45 | gpm | how do i get rid of the X and get a pointer without running a DE? |
| 00:06.46 | loke_ | green-earss: wanna help me install ati drivers? |
| 00:06.56 | sparr | kvn: thanks |
| 00:06.59 | kvn | np |
| 00:06.59 | thomas_adam | sparr: man syslogd |
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| 00:07.22 | saloxin | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:07.22 | thomas_adam | !tell gpm about nodm |
| 00:07.39 | green-earss | loke_: with 2.6 seting up for cd or dvd burning is quiet easy. sorry ati is not my field i am a nvidia person |
| 00:07.51 | gpm | thomas_adam: not what i was asking... |
| 00:08.06 | loke_ | green-earss: im gonna readup on installing ati |
| 00:08.21 | thomas_adam | gpm: ask it clearer then. |
| 00:08.34 | green-earss | loke_: its own best friend reading |
| 00:08.37 | sparr | I am trying to resolve a problem with my system locking up, usually during heavy drive access. It happened most often on a "Spurious 8259A interrupt: IRQ 7" message, but I have eliminated that by using the 'noapic' kernel option. However the lockups persist, although less common. What else could I check? (DMA is enabled) |
| 00:09.06 | loke_ | green-earss: are ati drivers know to be hard to install? |
| 00:09.08 | thomas_adam | sparr: The spurious is shit -- google for it and you'll see why. It's a very common issue. |
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| 00:09.42 | green-earss | loke_: once you got ati up and have a look at armagetron and bzflag |
| 00:10.06 | loke_ | green-earss: what is that |
| 00:10.07 | gpm | thomas_adam: right now, i'm using evilwm and my cursor is an ugly X, how do i get something else (like a pointer)? |
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| 00:10.17 | sparr | thomas_adam: yeah, i did, and the fixes i found seem to have eliminated that error. unfortunately the system still locks up, now with no error message, so im lost |
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| 00:11.00 | green-earss | loke_: sorry i do not know, nvidia not too bad. i use nvidia own drive not debian nvidia driver |
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| 00:11.33 | loke_ | green-earss: what is armagetron and bzflag? |
| 00:12.04 | thomas_adam | sparr: check memory, etc.... memtest86 |
| 00:12.10 | green-earss | loke_: for a chaep nvidia have a look on ebay, ho armagetron and bzflag. online 3d games |
| 00:12.19 | deadcat | echo 00:90:27:AA:CC:FD | egrep -i "^([0-9A-F]:){5}[0-9A-F]$" |
| 00:12.19 | thomas_adam | gpm: Umm, fvwm can do it - but I am sure an xapp exists to do it. |
| 00:12.24 | sparr | thomas_adam: i have |
| 00:12.32 | deadcat | the egrep is not maching. any idea??? ^^ |
| 00:12.44 | loke_ | green-earss: ok |
| 00:12.57 | gpm | thomas_adam: right. you don't know. |
| 00:12.57 | green-earss | loke_: 16 or 32 meg will do the job |
| 00:13.10 | loke_ | i have ati 128 meg right now |
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| 00:13.50 | deadcat | doh nevermind. |
| 00:13.52 | green-earss | loke_: so some reading and may be so help from the channel |
| 00:13.54 | thomas_adam | gpm: All I know is that the window manager can change it, you could try FM. |
| 00:14.57 | green-earss | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:15.20 | loke_ | green-earss: so what does that do? |
| 00:15.20 | deadcat | how do i use egrep to match 5 sets of [0-9A-Z]: ? |
| 00:15.35 | deadcat | nevermind. i think i got it. |
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| 00:16.00 | loke_ | green-earss: im gonna restart X real quick |
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| 00:16.12 | green-earss | loke_: ok |
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| 00:16.48 | iLLf8d | #bash |
| 00:16.50 | iLLf8d | oops |
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| 00:17.46 | kaatiee | hey i have a linksys wireless 802.11b usb network adapater is there anyway to get it to work under debian? all my searchs so far have failed -_- |
| 00:17.59 | gpm | thomas_adam: of course the wm could change it. but what i'm wondering is what about fvwm changes the cursor? can i use it in evilwm? |
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| 00:19.13 | thomas_adam | gpm: Probably, but whether it is built into evilwm or not, I do not know. If not, as I say, ISTR that such an app exists to do what you want, but I cannot remember where I saw of it. It was either on FM, or via apt-cache search . Sorry I cannot be anymore precise. |
| 00:19.22 | loke_ | did green-earss leave? |
| 00:19.25 | roo9 | if i have a connected firewire device that i can see with gscanbus, how can i mount that device? |
| 00:19.44 | gpm | thomas_adam: 's ok. this is "free tech support" :) |
| 00:20.02 | thomas_adam | hmm. |
| 00:20.02 | jdhutchin1 | roo9: do you have any other usb/firewire/scsi devices? |
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| 00:20.19 | susan | does anyone know of a good "Platik" GTK2 theme? i want it so it can GTK2 and QT will look the same ;-) |
| 00:20.48 | roo9 | jdhutchin1: no, but i do use ide-scsi |
| 00:21.05 | thomas_adam | susan: Try themes.sf.net |
| 00:21.22 | jdhutchin1 | roo9: do you know what device it is? /dev/sda1, /dev/sdb1, etc ? |
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| 00:21.58 | b0o | does anyone know kernal params off hand to skip fsck? (booting from a floppy, my HD seems to be causing problems) |
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| 00:22.28 | b0o | kernel even |
| 00:22.38 | roo9 | jdhutchin1: nope, trying to figure that out |
| 00:22.38 | thomas_adam | b0o: boot from CD, chroot, tune2fs -c 100 -C1 && fdisk /partitions. |
| 00:22.38 | GomoX | hi |
| 00:22.46 | roo9 | jdhutchin1: how do i find out? |
| 00:22.50 | b0o | thomas_adam : can't boot from cd :( |
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| 00:23.02 | jdhutchin1 | roo9: that's a good question, first check /etc/mtab and see if any sd* devices are mounted |
| 00:23.04 | thomas_adam | b0o: Or, try looking at the bootprompt howto. |
| 00:23.10 | jdhutchin1 | roo9: if none are, it's probably /dev/sda1 |
| 00:23.38 | dodgyville | How do I get out of single user mode booting? |
| 00:24.10 | thomas_adam | dodgyville: linux S |
| 00:24.14 | jdhutchin1 | roo9: do you have a mountpoint yet? (/mnt/firewire, etc)? |
| 00:24.19 | thomas_adam | dodgyville: out of? telinit 2 |
| 00:24.30 | roo9 | jdhutchin1: mount: /dev/sda1 is not a valid block device |
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| 00:24.43 | ecalot | I need to run a command with another user in a script, I'm not root but I have the pass in a variable, how can I do? |
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| 00:24.54 | roo9 | jdhutchin1: i simply can't find the /dev entry that corresponds to my device |
| 00:24.57 | dodgyville | thomas_adam: I mean, how to stop it doing it next time I reboot? |
| 00:25.01 | dodgyville | (and forever) |
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| 00:25.14 | loke_ | green-earss where u at? |
| 00:25.19 | thomas_adam | dodgyville: Set your default runlevel in /etc/inittab to 2 |
| 00:25.22 | nekrataal | hello, can anyone point me to where i can find information on sudo? |
| 00:25.29 | thomas_adam | nekrataal: /msg dpkg sudo |
| 00:25.31 | nekrataal | or something called like that.. |
| 00:25.40 | thomas_adam | !tell nekrataal -about sudo |
| 00:26.05 | jdhutchin1 | roo9: well, you can try them one by one until you find it |
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| 00:26.18 | dodgyville | thomas_adam: Thanks. Can I just vi the file and have id:2:initdefault ? |
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| 00:26.30 | thomas_adam | dodgyville: Yes. |
| 00:26.35 | jdhutchin1 | roo9: or, if you're running a 2.6 kernel, you could install udev and it'd only show the ones that are valid |
| 00:26.45 | pb3400 | possible to install debian with no-cd, no-network, only floppy? |
| 00:26.46 | roo9 | nope, got 2.4 here |
| 00:26.51 | thomas_adam | dodgyville: that's exactly right, then do: "telinit q" && telinit 2 |
| 00:26.54 | roo9 | pb3400: yes |
| 00:27.01 | pb3400 | how? |
| 00:27.16 | Eclipser | ~tell s|Lv3r-4-nyy about root |
| 00:27.21 | Eclipser | (did it work like that :) |
| 00:27.33 | pb3400 | 'lo? |
| 00:27.52 | roo9 | jdhutchin1: i tried that, used a for loop to attempt to mount every /dev/sd* entry, no luck |
| 00:27.54 | ac1d | http://people.debian.org/~dwhedon/boot-floppies/ |
| 00:28.05 | dodgyville | thomas_adam: reboot? |
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| 00:28.11 | pb3400 | but no network or cd? |
| 00:28.17 | thomas_adam | dodgyville: if you like. |
| 00:28.38 | dodgyville | thomas_adam: Thanks for your help |
| 00:28.50 | thomas_adam | dodgyville: You're welcome. Let me know if it works. |
| 00:30.30 | roo9 | pb3400: it's possible to do only a disk-based install... but just buy a network card and stick it in |
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| 00:30.30 | pb3400 | cant |
| 00:30.30 | pb3400 | only support old 5v cards |
| 00:30.30 | roo9 | pb3400: it's ver difficult |
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| 00:30.31 | pb3400 | possible though? |
| 00:30.31 | project9 | hi i am neww to vmware just download rpm,installed rpm how do i start now |
| 00:30.31 | _lars_ | how reliable is writing to ntfs partitions? |
| 00:30.31 | bofh80 | anybody got any good links to faq on mach32 with xfree86 |
| 00:30.31 | project9 | Please specify a username that is known to your host ----which name |
| 00:30.31 | RichiH | pb3400: yes, it is. but without floppy _or_ cd, that will be some work... |
| 00:30.31 | dodgyville | thomas_adam: It went "INIT: Entering runlevel: 2" but it has still dropped to root |
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| 00:30.31 | pb3400 | yes floppy |
| 00:30.32 | pb3400 | no cd or network |
| 00:30.32 | thomas_adam | dodgyville: Are you running debian? |
| 00:30.36 | thomas_adam | dodgyville: paste the contents of /etc/inittab to #flood |
| 00:30.39 | s|Lv3r-4-tux | anyone can tell me how can i install the sata drivers for P4P800 for installing debian? |
| 00:30.40 | RichiH | pb3400: then you copy the files you need on your harddisk on another pc |
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| 00:31.46 | gpm | hey, anyone know how i can stop my monitor from going blank after 30 mins. of inactivity? it happens both in and outside of X. |
| 00:31.55 | roo9 | anyone know of the state of kernel 2.6 from backports.org running on woody? |
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| 00:32.00 | thomas_adam | gpm: console -> setterm -blank 0. X -> xset s noblank && xset s off && xset -dpms |
| 00:32.05 | roo9 | is it reasonable stable |
| 00:32.34 | gpm | thomas_adam: ok, i can add the xset stuff to xinitrc, but what about setterm? |
| 00:32.47 | s|Lv3r-4-tux | how do i install s-ata on linux |
| 00:32.49 | thomas_adam | gpm: add setterm to ~/.bash_profile |
| 00:32.55 | jdhutchin1 | roo9: I don't know what's wrong, but you could try modprobe'ng ieee1394, and ohci1394 |
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| 00:33.26 | s|Lv3r-4-tux | nobody? |
| 00:33.27 | |QuaD| | if i am doing a make-kpkg for a module, where in the source folder should i have the module? |
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| 00:33.36 | dodgyville | thomas_adam: gotta go |
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| 00:34.03 | roo9 | jdhutchin1: done, long time ago, it would not show up in gscanbus if that was the issue |
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| 00:34.13 | _lars_ | how reliable is writing to ntfs partitions? |
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| 00:34.25 | mikael | hello |
| 00:34.26 | jdhutchin1 | _lars_: what driver? |
| 00:34.40 | RichiH | _lars_: with the wrapper, pretty reliable last time i read about it |
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| 00:34.54 | thomas_adam | |QuaD|: What do you mean? |
| 00:34.55 | mentor | _lars_: The lasted versions of the driver are fairly safe for writing, in that you will liekly not cause data loss, but you /will/ need to get Windows to check and correct the partition. |
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| 00:35.13 | mikael | I'd like to add this option "-dpi 100" when gdm startx my X server, where should i add it ??? |
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| 00:35.27 | thomas_adam | mikael: Xwrapper.config |
| 00:35.29 | mentor | mikael: In the gdm configuration? |
| 00:36.09 | mikael | mentor i dunno, i'll try Xwrapper first |
| 00:36.10 | thomas_adam | mikael: that's in /etc/X11, btw |
| 00:36.13 | gpm | is there a reason mutt thinks ~/mail/mbox isn't a mailbox?...i just fetchmailed stuff into it . |
| 00:36.25 | thomas_adam | gpm: That would be MH format. |
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| 00:36.32 | roo9 | installing kernel-2.6 on woody i get the error "FATAL: Module hptraid not found.", this is from backports.org |
| 00:36.42 | thomas_adam | roo9: demod -a |
| 00:36.46 | gpm | thomas_adam: help me. i'm confused. |
| 00:36.51 | gpm | thomas_adam: sorry |
| 00:36.55 | thomas_adam | gpm: What's up? |
| 00:37.11 | gpm | thomas_adam: ok. so i have ~/mail/mbox as the default in .procmailrc |
| 00:37.12 | mikael | thomas_adam are you sure i should add it there ??? it's almost empty |
| 00:37.13 | mwilson | mikael: Unless you've deliberately removed it, it's already there. |
| 00:37.23 | roo9 | thomas_adam: i don't have demod |
| 00:37.28 | gpm | thomas_adam: and i did fetchmail -avk -m "/usr/bin/procmail" which looked fine |
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| 00:37.40 | thomas_adam | roo9: depmod -a |
| 00:37.41 | mikael | mwilson no it's there |
| 00:37.49 | thomas_adam | Why are you lying? |
| 00:37.49 | gpm | thomas_adam: now when i try to read it in mutt it says ~/mail/mbox isn't a mailbox |
| 00:38.03 | jdhutchin1 | roo9: are you root? |
| 00:38.05 | thomas_adam | gpm: That's because you should try /var/mail/$USER, perhaps? |
| 00:38.19 | thomas_adam | jdhutchin1: No, my keyboard is iffy and I did not type the 'p'. |
| 00:38.21 | s|Lv3r-4-tux | how do i instal sata on linux? |
| 00:38.33 | s|Lv3r-4-tux | how do i instal sata on linux? |
| 00:38.34 | roo9 | thomas_adam: thx |
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| 00:38.47 | mikael | thomas_adam actually fonts are ok when i start X with xdm but it's strange when i start with gdm, the only difference according to ps alx |grep X is the -dpi 100 option |
| 00:38.52 | roo9 | thomas_adam: still get the same error |
| 00:38.52 | gpm | thomas_adam: not with fetchmail...i think you only have to use /var/mail/(user) if you want to use exim for recieving mail |
| 00:39.03 | pb3400 | roo9: any ideas about the nocd no network no other computer install? |
| 00:39.10 | thomas_adam | roo9: update-modules and try again. |
| 00:39.14 | s|Lv3r-4-tux | how do i instal sata on linux? |
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| 00:39.26 | thomas_adam | !tell s|Lv3r-4-tux about repeat |
| 00:39.26 | s|Lv3r-4-tux | anyone? |
| 00:39.30 | loke_ | mentor: u here? |
| 00:39.31 | mentor | ~tell s|Lv3r-4-tux about repeat |
| 00:39.33 | roo9 | pb3400: it's covered in the install FAQ |
| 00:39.33 | gpm | s|Lv3r-4-tux: what is sata? |
| 00:39.50 | loke_ | mentor: i got that dns problem solved, finally |
| 00:39.50 | GomoX | s|Lv3r-4-tux: what do you want to install on what, be clear please |
| 00:39.52 | gpm | s|Lv3r-4-tux: are you using debian? |
| 00:39.58 | mentor | s|Lv3r-4-tux: Get a kernel that has SATA support. |
| 00:39.58 | pb3400 | no |
| 00:40.00 | pb3400 | i looked |
| 00:40.03 | thomas_adam | mikael: Try gdm's config, but I am not sure. |
| 00:40.06 | pb3400 | but can u give me the addy |
| 00:40.11 | mikael | mentor is what ? |
| 00:40.12 | s|Lv3r-4-tux | i tried debian, suse, mandrake and fedora |
| 00:40.13 | thomas_adam | !tell pb3400 about enter |
| 00:40.13 | debian | !tell s|Lv3r-4-tux about sata |
| 00:40.19 | loke_ | mentor: i added the dns address to /etc/pcmcia/network.opts |
| 00:40.20 | mentor | s|Lv3r-4-tux: GENREALLY THIS JUST MEANS A KERNEL WITH THE idS FOR THE sata HARDWARE AS sata IS abi COMPATIBLE WITH pata. |
| 00:40.24 | mentor | gah |
| 00:40.27 | GomoX | s|Lv3r-4-tux: on what hardware? |
| 00:40.43 | mentor | loke_: Ah, well. |
| 00:40.46 | karsten | WTF is with GNOME stock ticker not retrieving data? |
| 00:40.48 | mentor | loke_: There you go :) |
| 00:40.49 | s|Lv3r-4-tux | mainboard ASUS P4P800 |
| 00:41.00 | pb3400 | roo9 |
| 00:41.05 | GomoX | s|Lv3r-4-tux: thats well supported |
| 00:41.06 | loke_ | mentor: /etc/resolv.conf grabs the dns address from that file on boot |
| 00:41.16 | mentor | s|Lv3r-4-tux: Go look for yourself; apologies for caps. |
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| 00:41.28 | mentor | mikael: here |
| 00:41.29 | mikael | thomas_adam ok thanx |
| 00:41.30 | s|Lv3r-4-tux | debian and mandrake are installing but they don't seem to write the mbr correctly |
| 00:41.34 | loke_ | mentor: so it works, praise the lord, lordy lordy |
| 00:41.35 | roo9 | thomas_adam: still not working |
| 00:41.36 | GomoX | s|Lv3r-4-tux: you need install media with the libata driver, i guess sarge installer beta4 has it |
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| 00:41.53 | roo9 | thomas_adam: hptraid is not listed in /etc/modules or /etc/modules.conf |
| 00:41.53 | s|Lv3r-4-tux | GomoX: i tried that but it won't boot |
| 00:42.02 | thomas_adam | roo9: What is it you're trying to do? |
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| 00:42.11 | GomoX | s|Lv3r-4-tux: you mean after installing? |
| 00:42.15 | FieldySnuts | !start an mta war |
| 00:42.15 | dpkg | courier is a spam magnet |
| 00:42.15 | roo9 | thomas_adam: install kernel 2.6 on woody from backports.org |
| 00:42.18 | s|Lv3r-4-tux | GomoX: yes |
| 00:42.21 | pb3400 | does any1 know how to do an install with no cd or network and no other computer that con write to the hdd? |
| 00:42.25 | thomas_adam | !any1 |
| 00:42.25 | dpkg | *** any1: No such nick/channel |
| 00:42.35 | pb3400 | anybody |
| 00:42.38 | thomas_adam | pb3400: You were told about this earlier. |
| 00:42.40 | FieldySnuts | !ne1 |
| 00:42.40 | dpkg | There is no such nick ne1. If you can't be bothered to type 'anyone' we can't be bothered to help you IRC shorthand for "I don't have two braincells to rub together" (circa EFnet #amiga mid-90s) |
| 00:42.42 | mentor | courier is the shit. and I don't know street speak. |
| 00:42.50 | thomas_adam | pb3400: You were even given a link. |
| 00:42.55 | GomoX | s|Lv3r-4-tux: then use the install media to boot and fix the problem with your boot loader - you have a different non-sata related issue |
| 00:42.55 | s|Lv3r-4-tux | GomoX: it is intalling linux but it doesn't write grub coirrectly |
| 00:42.57 | FieldySnuts | i like that. applies to any1 or any of those other lame shortenings |
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| 00:43.01 | roo9 | pb3400: look at the install FAQ, it's there. |
| 00:43.01 | mikael | ok thanx all |
| 00:43.03 | pb3400 | no i wasn't |
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| 00:43.07 | FieldySnuts | especially the "if you can't be bothered..." |
| 00:43.21 | thomas_adam | FieldySnuts: What do I pay you for? |
| 00:43.23 | pb3400 | link maybe? |
| 00:43.23 | GomoX | s|Lv3r-4-tux: you are not using on board raid, right? |
| 00:43.37 | s|Lv3r-4-tux | GomoX: no |
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| 00:44.15 | GomoX | s|Lv3r-4-tux: great |
| 00:44.27 | GomoX | s|Lv3r-4-tux: then fix your grub.conf |
| 00:44.34 | mentor | s|Lv3r-4-tux: Define 'not installingGrUB correctly" |
| 00:44.39 | s|Lv3r-4-tux | GomoX: I used Partition Magic from XP to create partition fox Linux....could this be a problem? |
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| 00:44.41 | mentor | grub.conf? |
| 00:44.59 | mentor | s|Lv3r-4-tux: Yes, it could be a problem. |
| 00:45.09 | pb3400 | f-u bitches |
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| 00:45.11 | s|Lv3r-4-tux | GomoX: I got 2 Primary partitions ( :) ) |
| 00:45.13 | J_1 | hi all |
| 00:45.21 | J_1 | people, kde have problem in SID ? |
| 00:45.29 | lindude | are kde debs currently broke in sid? |
| 00:45.33 | thomas_adam | !tell J_1 about btd |
| 00:45.35 | thomas_adam | !tell J_1 about bts |
| 00:45.36 | mentor | J_1: quite likkely. |
| 00:45.39 | thomas_adam | !tell J_1 about sicco |
| 00:45.40 | J_1 | apt-get install kde have some problems.. |
| 00:45.41 | thomas_adam | !tell J_1 about topic |
| 00:45.44 | thomas_adam | !tell J_1 about ask |
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| 00:45.51 | Ketter | mogguh |
| 00:45.52 | J_1 | as kde: Depends: kde-core but it is not going to be installed |
| 00:45.57 | thomas_adam | !tell J_1 about bts |
| 00:46.24 | GomoX | s|Lv3r-4-tux: shouldnt be |
| 00:46.32 | thomas_adam | J_1: get reading. If you cannot resolve that you should NOT BE USING SID. |
| 00:47.01 | thomas_adam | hehehe: http://bilder.grisfylla.net/index.php?bigimage=roligt%2FWinXP.jpg |
| 00:47.19 | Ketter | bakkie |
| 00:47.20 | mentor | J_1: Tr yinstalling it to find out why. |
| 00:47.37 | |QuaD| | can someone come in flood and help me figure out what i am doing wrong with my orinoco_usb drivers? |
| 00:47.44 | thomas_adam | |QuaD|: ok. |
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| 00:48.07 | phillip | is it painless to upgrade from 2.2-idepci installation to a 2.4 kernel? |
| 00:48.24 | |QuaD| | just pasted |
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| 00:49.21 | thomas_adam | |QuaD|: Hmm, I might well be labelling you a moron, but we shall see... |
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| 00:49.36 | thomas_adam | !tell phillip about kp |
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| 00:50.27 | samlander | how do i un rar a rar file? |
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| 00:51.09 | GomoX | samlander: apt-get install rar from non-free, then "rar e file.rar" |
| 00:51.18 | samlander | ty |
| 00:51.28 | |QuaD| | thomas_adam, ? |
| 00:51.35 | thomas_adam | !tell samlander about rar |
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| 00:52.02 | grendel | hello everyone |
| 00:52.12 | JunK-Y | debian:/home/junky/perl# date |
| 00:52.12 | JunK-Y | Mon May 31 15:34:48 EDT 2004 |
| 00:52.12 | JunK-Y | debian:/home/junky/perl# |
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| 00:52.33 | JunK-Y | how can i change the current date to 20:52 ? |
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| 00:52.47 | lazarus | JunK-Y: man date |
| 00:53.08 | flugh[home] | w00t |
| 00:53.15 | kaatiee | hey i have a linksys wireless 802.11b usb network adapater is there anyway to get it to work under debian? all my searchs so far have failed -_- |
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| 00:54.17 | |QuaD| | thomas_adam, ? |
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| 00:55.22 | thomas_adam | |QuaD|: It seems to me like you have tried to previously compile that module as the root 'user'. |
| 00:55.32 | |QuaD| | right |
| 00:55.36 | |QuaD| | i then made clean as route |
| 00:55.38 | |QuaD| | *root |
| 00:55.44 | |QuaD| | and tried again |
| 00:55.47 | |QuaD| | got different errror |
| 00:55.52 | thomas_adam | |QuaD|: You shouldn't be compiling it as root, dimwit. |
| 00:55.57 | stew | !tell |QuaD| about enter |
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| 00:56.00 | roo9 | thomas_adam: where does mkinitrd search for modules to add to the image? |
| 00:56.01 | lazarus | |QuaD|: /msg dpkg root |
| 00:56.16 | |QuaD| | thomas_adam, i did |
| 00:56.17 | |QuaD| | ! |
| 00:56.18 | stew | thomas_adam: i'm convinced that memorial day is like a "special sunday" around here |
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| 00:56.20 | thomas_adam | roo9: Unless you're using a stock kernel, you won't need an initrd. |
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| 00:56.32 | thomas_adam | stew: Ah, only in America. :) |
| 00:56.33 | roo9 | thomas_adam: i am using a stock kernel. |
| 00:56.38 | JunK-Y | # date %T 20:56:32 |
| 00:56.44 | JunK-Y | how can i set my time to that time ? |
| 00:56.49 | lazarus | JunK-Y: man date |
| 00:56.51 | thomas_adam | JunK-Y: RTFM, FFS. |
| 00:56.56 | JunK-Y | i did man date |
| 00:57.01 | JunK-Y | its %T |
| 00:57.14 | lazarus | JunK-Y: next you read the words on your screen and follow them |
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| 00:58.16 | karambaaa | Can someone say me how I can shutdown the X under Debian? Because I want to install the nvidia driver |
| 00:58.22 | JunK-Y | # date --set=20:58:32 |
| 00:58.27 | JunK-Y | :0 |
| 00:58.30 | lazarus | karambaaa: how did you start it? |
| 00:58.35 | karambaaa | ? |
| 00:58.47 | lazarus | karambaaa: startx ? |
| 00:58.58 | karambaaa | It started automaticaly |
| 00:59.21 | karambaaa | what I need to do to install than nvidia driver? |
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| 00:59.28 | thomas_adam | karambaaa: invoke-rc.d xdm stop |
| 00:59.33 | lazarus | karambaaa: actually, ,now i see you're trying to do something proprietary, so i withdraw any support |
| 00:59.38 | karsten | What gnome package includes the command-line taskbar/panel applet? |
| 00:59.41 | charzero | Are there any CLI web browsers that support javascript? |
| 00:59.48 | mwilson | links2 |
| 00:59.53 | lazarus | charzero: my belief is no |
| 00:59.53 | thomas_adam | karsten: /msg dpkg search and see #gnome |
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| 01:00.00 | jdhutchin1 | karambaaa, are you using the debian packages or the NVIDIA-installer? |
| 01:00.03 | mwilson | lazarus: You'd be wrong. |
| 01:00.17 | thomas_adam | charzero: No. |
| 01:00.19 | karsten | thomas_adam: Well, if I could identify a fucking executable, fine. I'm more than familiar with search. |
| 01:00.33 | mwilson | Neither one of you knows about links2, huh? |
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| 01:00.50 | thomas_adam | mwilson: I do, yes. I have not bothered to check for JS support. |
| 01:00.57 | lazarus | mwilson: what debian package contains that? |
| 01:01.00 | thomas_adam | karsten: gdesklets? |
| 01:01.02 | mwilson | lazarus: None do. |
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| 01:01.09 | mwilson | lazarus: I didn't claim that there was one. |
| 01:01.13 | lazarus | mwilson: hence my belief, i suppose |
| 01:01.14 | karsten | $ locate command-line | less |
| 01:01.18 | mwilson | lazarus: Neither did he ask for one. |
| 01:01.20 | karsten | $ dpkg -S /usr/share/gnome/help/command-line |
| 01:01.21 | karsten | gnome-applets-data: /usr/share/gnome/help/command-line |
| 01:01.22 | thomas_adam | lazarus: See links.sf.net for the link |
| 01:01.45 | lazarus | mwilson: i'd imply it from the channel in which he asked, but that's me :) |
| 01:02.15 | mwilson | rei $ xterm -version |
| 01:02.15 | mwilson | XFree86 4.3.0.1(190) |
| 01:02.17 | mwilson | ack |
| 01:02.20 | karsten | thomas_adam: Looks as if it's gnome-applets. |
| 01:02.27 | mwilson | I hate xterm sometimes. |
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| 01:02.32 | lazarus | thomas_adam: well, if it's not in debian, i presume there's a reason for that omission, etc (we already have multiple links/elinks that i see, hrm) |
| 01:02.32 | thomas_adam | karsten: Apparantly. :) |
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| 01:02.50 | mwilson | Oh, no wonder |
| 01:03.11 | thomas_adam | lazarus: presumably -- or there is not yet a relevant maintainer. |
| 01:03.21 | mwilson | http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~clock/twibright/links/features.html |
| 01:03.42 | mwilson | I turn off the javascript, of course, but it does support it. |
| 01:03.45 | lazarus | thomas_adam: is the project low on maintainers lately (i've been absent) |
| 01:04.01 | thomas_adam | lazarus: Some packages are orphaned, so..... |
| 01:04.44 | lazarus | thomas_adam: yeah, i've seen orpahning in the changelogs of sid i'm upgrading today, but i hadn't thought the percentage to be higher than usual |
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| 01:05.28 | karsten | thomas_adam: Though it's not listed in that package manifest. |
| 01:05.30 | lazarus | always sad to see a package become more work than the good volunteers feel they can continue to maintain though |
| 01:05.46 | thomas_adam | lazarus: There is also "interest" to consider. You _do_ read DWN, I assume? |
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| 01:06.22 | lazarus | thomas_adam: i think i'm unaware of the article you reference there (my time lately has been close to zero) |
| 01:06.29 | thomas_adam | !+DWN |
| 01:06.30 | dpkg | Debian Weekly News at http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/ . You can also get it emailed to you weekly by subscribing to the debian-news list at http://lists.debian.org/debian-news/ or by sending an email with the subject 'subscribe' and no body to debian-news-request@lists.debian.org |
| 01:06.34 | lazarus | s/time/free time/ |
| 01:06.40 | roo9 | where does mkinitrd obtain a list of modules to compile into the initrd image? |
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| 01:06.54 | thomas_adam | roo9: I told you already. |
| 01:07.17 | lazarus | thomas_adam: oddly, i somehow menally changed that to the (paid) LWN when reading, heh |
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| 01:07.29 | thomas_adam | :) |
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| 01:08.31 | roo9 | thomas_adam: you gave me some suggestions on how to fix the problem. you never answered that question. |
| 01:08.45 | lazarus | thomas_adam: later i'll probably "play catch-up" on dwn, is the "interest" article a recent one? |
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| 01:09.49 | samlander | how do i 'iso' a folder of files? |
| 01:09.53 | Silent1 | hi all, trying to get my fuji finepix 3800 working and i'm having no luck. dmesg shows that the camera is there, but when i go to mount the camera i get this error, mount: /dev/sda1 is not a valid block device. Any ideas? |
| 01:09.56 | thomas_adam | lazarus: You mis-understood -- I did not mean interest in the sense of DWM, but sufficient interest to want to maintain such a package. DWM lists orphaned packages normally. |
| 01:10.12 | Delph | samlander: mkisofs ? |
| 01:10.12 | samlander | !tell samlander about iso |
| 01:10.13 | thomas_adam | samlander: mount -o loop /file.iso /mnt |
| 01:10.18 | thod | Hey, does anyone know how to recursivaly cat out the everything in a directory? |
| 01:10.24 | thomas_adam | thod: cat * |
| 01:10.34 | Delph | thod: i'm going to go out on a limb here and go for cat -R * ? |
| 01:10.38 | samlander | ty |
| 01:10.40 | stew | recursively would be find . -type f -exec cat {} \; |
| 01:10.42 | f[x]dx | find . -type f -exec cat {} \; |
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| 01:10.54 | Delph | yeah, the limb was too far =:) |
| 01:11.02 | thod | thomas_adam: invalid option -R |
| 01:11.02 | lazarus | thomas_adam: ah, gotcha |
| 01:11.15 | Delph | thod: thats me, not thomas_adam |
| 01:11.17 | thomas_adam | thod: I never said to use -R |
| 01:11.46 | thod | oh sorry that was Delph... |
| 01:11.48 | Delph | hmm |
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| 01:11.51 | asciiwhite | hello all |
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| 01:11.56 | Delph | i appear to have lost my desktop =:/ |
| 01:12.01 | asciiwhite | has anyone here build X11R6 before ? |
| 01:12.04 | thod | thanks guys I'll give it a go. |
| 01:12.10 | asciiwhite | whats it support for nvidia drivers like |
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| 01:13.14 | thomas_adam | asciiwhite: #nvidia |
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| 01:13.54 | phoenix__ | If I have disks 1-3 of 3r0, can I use 4-6 r1? |
| 01:14.39 | phoenix__ | hello? |
| 01:14.45 | lazarus | phoenix__: typically, you'd use only one disk, then upgrade from the net |
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| 01:14.55 | thomas_adam | phoenix__: You're making fuck all sense |
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| 01:15.10 | lazarus | phoenix__: the difference between r0 and r1 are some packages have security upgrades |
| 01:15.10 | |QuaD| | hmm, my kernel source won't even compile :( |
| 01:15.19 | thomas_adam | !tell |QuaD| about kp |
| 01:15.24 | phoenix__ | lazarus: Are they compatible using apt-cdrom? |
| 01:15.29 | thod | I'm having trouble finding where I am starting applications when X starts. It isn't from anywhere in /etc/X11/* or in ~/.initrc where else could it be? I've worked it out once before but I cannot find it anymore. |
| 01:15.34 | lazarus | phoenix__: if you have security.debian.org in your sourcees.list, you're best off |
| 01:15.38 | postel | phoenix__: install the base from disk one and apt-get the rest of the system. or even better, just boot of the install disk and do a net install |
| 01:15.54 | phoenix__ | lazarus: I can't do a net install. |
| 01:16.07 | lazarus | phoenix__: for the most part, ,yes, ,but again *some* packages may have a later version number in r1 |
| 01:16.39 | phoenix__ | lazarus: I just wanted to complete my collection of ISO's, and wanted to know if I can use r1 with the 3.0"r0" disks. |
| 01:16.40 | lazarus | phoenix__: install what you can from the cds you have, then *update*/*upgrgade* via the net for the security fixes you lack |
| 01:16.54 | phoenix__ | lazarus: I really can't. |
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| 01:17.17 | phoenix__ | lazarus: I'm not getting broadband for a few weeks. |
| 01:17.18 | lazarus | phoenix__: unnconnected box? |
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| 01:17.29 | phoenix__ | lazarus: Yeah. |
| 01:17.45 | lazarus | phoenix__: i think you'll find most of us in here have installed multiple entire debian systems via dialup |
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| 01:18.21 | mickeyks-away | i did it with 13 floppies once |
| 01:18.26 | mickeyks-away | which i got via dialup |
| 01:18.32 | phoenix__ | lazarus: I just want all the ISO's. |
| 01:18.55 | lazarus | phoenix__: apt-get -d upgrade <-- can be run in the background while you sleep, and *only* d/l's, thanks to the -d switch |
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| 01:19.29 | phoenix__ | lazarus: the 1 phone line at home cannot be monopolized for linux unfortunatly |
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| 01:19.46 | JunK-Y | mickeyks-away: i've installed my current box by floppies too |
| 01:19.51 | lazarus | phoenix__: you're not online now? i see |
| 01:19.54 | JunK-Y | i just did an upgrade and update. |
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| 01:19.59 | phoenix__ | lazarus: I"m getting broadband soon |
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| 01:20.14 | phoenix__ | lazarus: This is a neighbors broadband |
| 01:20.14 | zumbi | i have an openoffice sxc file, does somebody know how to extract pictures from that file ? |
| 01:20.24 | jdhutchin1 | unzip it |
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| 01:21.02 | lazarus | phoenix__: frankly, the *only* thing i'd prioritize at the top opf the list, if i had such limited access, are the *security* upgrades ... as detailed above |
| 01:21.32 | phoenix__ | lazarus: why security if the box is with you always and offline :P |
| 01:22.07 | lazarus | phoenix__: there are local privipege holes, for example |
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| 01:22.17 | JunK-Y | which is the latest bug into OpenSSH ? |
| 01:22.18 | mickeyks | lazarus: doesn't woody get some kind of security updates that testing and unstable don't get? |
| 01:22.43 | lazarus | mickeyks: http://security.debian.org, yes |
| 01:22.59 | phoenix__ | lazarus: Okay I understand what you're saying. But my original question is still unanswered.. |
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| 01:23.22 | thomas_adam | dpkg, fuck JunK-Y |
| 01:23.22 | lazarus | phoenix__: you're asking to do something that's unsupporrted, but "mostly, yes" |
| 01:23.29 | thomas_adam | dpkg, tell JunK-Y about bts |
| 01:23.51 | phoenix__ | lazarus: I have disks 1-3 woody, I just want to know if I can use the r1 4-6 to add to my collection so I can install more packages. |
| 01:24.03 | JunK-Y | fuck JunK-Y ? |
| 01:24.12 | phoenix__ | lazarus: I'll just look for the old ISO's |
| 01:24.37 | Sakina | thomas_adam, it seems dpkg knows a lot :) where can I know all the keywords to query dpkg. |
| 01:24.38 | lazarus | phoenix__: *if* you happen to hit upon a combination of odd packages that have some explicit versioned dependencies youo *might* get bitten |
| 01:24.45 | karsten | Anyone got a good recipie for testing existence of a manpage? |
| 01:24.59 | jdhutchin1 | man command? |
| 01:24.59 | zumbi | dpkg, tell Sakina help |
| 01:25.11 | JunK-Y | man manpage ? |
| 01:25.19 | thomas_adam | karsten: apropos |
| 01:25.24 | hooya | is there an easy way to setup a minimal debian install for NFS-root for diskless clients? |
| 01:25.25 | lazarus | phoenix__: i'd lean toward using the newer isos, if you have to give one set preference, btw |
| 01:25.25 | oracle | karsten: whatis |
| 01:25.40 | phoenix__ | lazarus: I just need broadband at home :) |
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| 01:25.58 | f[x]dx | man stuff > /dev/null || echo "no man page" |
| 01:25.58 | phoenix__ | lazarus: Well I don't want to re-download 1-3 |
| 01:26.00 | lazarus | phoenix__: can you d/l that from this channel? |
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| 01:26.13 | zumbi | !dpkg tell Sakina help |
| 01:26.32 | zumbi | why dpkg doesn't like me ? |
| 01:26.41 | vladkao | zumbi: you miss essential commands |
| 01:26.47 | vladkao | like "about" :) |
| 01:26.54 | zumbi | !dpkg tell about Sakina help |
| 01:27.11 | zumbi | !dpkg tell Sakina about help |
| 01:27.11 | karsten | thomas_adam: Nope. |
| 01:27.12 | lazarus | phoenix__: youo'll never install all the thousands of (sometimes-conflicting) packages in woody concurrently ... you *might* find something you have a problem with, but use what you have avaialbe until you get broadband then |
| 01:27.13 | karsten | Orlly: Nope. |
| 01:27.19 | Sakina | thanks :) |
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| 01:27.29 | karsten | oracle: nope. |
| 01:27.35 | phoenix__ | lazarus: K |
| 01:27.37 | karsten | 'man -w' seems to do the trick. |
| 01:27.41 | zumbi | i dunno much about dpkg :-/ |
| 01:27.54 | lazarus | zumbi: /msg dpkg help |
| 01:28.01 | hooya | anyway to create a minimal deb install for nfs-root diskless clients? |
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| 01:28.10 | coax | to setup grub stage files are needed. but no /boot/grub dir was created during installation, hmm... |
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| 01:28.40 | zumbi | xDD |
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| 01:29.09 | real | where do i learn about debian and x.org |
| 01:29.45 | JunK-Y | if i just added a rj-45 into my new box linux, what i need to do to be able to put that computer into my LAN ? |
| 01:30.15 | thomas_adam | JunK-Y: You don't add rj45, that's the connector to the NIC socket. |
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| 01:30.44 | LoRez | JunK-Y: what's your native language? |
| 01:31.13 | JunK-Y | french. |
| 01:31.21 | thomas_adam | Ah, tu parle francias? |
| 01:31.25 | JunK-Y | oui |
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| 01:31.27 | Guerin-Zzz | !tell real about x.org |
| 01:31.30 | LoRez | try #debian-fr |
| 01:31.34 | Guerin-Zzz | !tell real about x in debian |
| 01:31.43 | Guerin-Zzz | !tell real about xorg |
| 01:31.43 | thomas_adam | Guerin-Zzz: wakey wakey. |
| 01:31.50 | JunK-Y | i understand english. |
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| 01:32.02 | LoRez | JunK-Y: construct logical sentence you cannot. |
| 01:32.06 | real | thanks Guerin |
| 01:32.11 | Guerin | mmm, watermelon |
| 01:32.18 | thomas_adam | JunK-Y: Oui, mais c'est pas meiux pour vous si vous /J #debian-fr ? |
| 01:32.19 | Guerin | real: you are more than welcome |
| 01:32.35 | JunK-Y | lorez: anyways, ya understood my question, can ya answer now ? |
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| 01:33.01 | nwoods | what is a good prog for working with zip files in X |
| 01:33.12 | thomas_adam | nwoods: xterm |
| 01:33.17 | f[x]dx | lol |
| 01:33.18 | mdh | LoRez: in this one the force strong is |
| 01:33.29 | lazarus | zip (1) - package and compress (archive) files |
| 01:33.39 | vladkao | thomas_adam: haha |
| 01:33.50 | thomas_adam | It's true though. :) |
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| 01:34.04 | LoRez | mdh: s/fo/fa/ |
| 01:34.17 | Guerin | LoRez: heh |
| 01:34.32 | mdh | :) |
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| 01:34.48 | thomas_adam | Bed time. |
| 01:35.05 | f[x]dx | thomas_adam: i'm quoting you, y you don't mind :) |
| 01:35.15 | f[x]dx | s/y /if / |
| 01:35.17 | thomas_adam | f[x]dx: go ahead. |
| 01:36.05 | f[x]dx | thomas_adam: thnx |
| 01:36.19 | thomas_adam | f[x]dx: What are you going to quote though? |
| 01:36.30 | f[x]dx | <nwoods> what is a good prog for working with zip files in X[21:33] |
| 01:36.30 | f[x]dx | <thomas_adam> xterm |
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| 01:36.46 | thomas_adam | f[x]dx: Put it on bash.org then. :) |
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| 01:36.57 | f[x]dx | thomas_adam: he! |
| 01:37.01 | Guerin | nah, nothing new gets accepted to bash.org |
| 01:37.21 | Guerin | unless it involves puerile sexual or toilet humour |
| 01:37.25 | thomas_adam | Guerin: what about if you wrapped it round a 'bash -c' echo ....' ' ? |
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| 01:38.02 | Guerin | thomas_adam: nah, still not enough beavis and butthead factor |
| 01:38.11 | thomas_adam | hmm. |
| 01:38.54 | mdh | Guerin: although the #1 entry doesn't involve either |
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| 01:39.17 | mdh | (#1 in the top 100, not necessarily entry #1) |
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| 01:39.35 | sanxiyn | When Linux Counter reaches 144,000, Sarge will be released. |
| 01:39.37 | Guerin | mdh: hrm, let's see.. |
| 01:40.39 | Guerin | heh, that's interesting. it's only funny if you imagine it... |
| 01:40.41 | The^Eagle | i want to make a shell script, and i want to know how to get the text that is written after the scripts name, like 'test blah' how to make the script to know that it said blah? |
| 01:40.57 | lazarus | The^Eagle: $1 |
| 01:41.06 | f[x]dx | The^Eagle: $1, $2, ... |
| 01:41.09 | The^Eagle | ah |
| 01:41.11 | The^Eagle | ok :P |
| 01:41.11 | The^Eagle | thx |
| 01:41.15 | hooya | hey Guerin |
| 01:41.16 | Guerin | !thx |
| 01:41.16 | dpkg | np lol |
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| 01:41.23 | mdh | Guerin: oh crap! it's changed! now #2 |
| 01:41.28 | Guerin | hooya: you still here? |
| 01:41.32 | hooya | yeah man.. |
| 01:41.33 | lazarus | The^Eagle: check the net for a bash tutorial, there's lots, btw :) |
| 01:41.35 | mdh | #1 used to be the "stab people in the face" one |
| 01:41.48 | hooya | got my diskless cluster node#1 to boot!! |
| 01:41.59 | Guerin | !congratulate hooya |
| 01:42.00 | dpkg | huzzah hooya, you did it! |
| 01:42.07 | hooya | lol |
| 01:42.16 | Guerin | mdh: that's pretty decent as well... |
| 01:42.28 | hooya | now i'm wondering if there's a simpler way to create a minimal install for the nfs-root |
| 01:42.32 | mdh | http://bash.org/?287414 |
| 01:42.33 | Guerin | mdh: my all-time favorite has to be the one about the cereal mascost though |
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| 01:43.03 | mdh | or, somewhat related to a recent conversation in here, http://bash.org/?23601 |
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| 01:44.04 | Guerin | md: hah, that sounds like a setup to me |
| 01:44.25 | mdh | yeah, unfortunately many of them do. |
| 01:44.41 | mdh | http://bash.org/?15641 <-- like this one |
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| 01:45.26 | hooya | mdh, that's too weird to be true |
| 01:45.32 | mdh | one of my friends is featured though: http://bash.org/?18080 |
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| 01:45.46 | Guerin | mdh: nah, that doesn't smell like setup, it smells of 2 people with excellent comic sense |
| 01:46.07 | sanxiyn | Saying, release not Sarge, till we have counted the servants of Tux with their mail addresses. And I heard the number of them which were counted: an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Linux. --Revelation 7:3-4 |
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| 01:46.32 | jbr | sanxiyn: it all makes sense now, thankyou |
| 01:46.39 | sanxiyn | jbr: haha |
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| 01:47.00 | dodgyville | Hello |
| 01:47.08 | Guerin | sanxiyn: look, now you've convinced him the Sargepocalypse is coming... |
| 01:47.15 | Guerin | !hi dodgyville |
| 01:47.16 | dpkg | A gracious hello, dodgyville! |
| 01:47.34 | dodgyville | How do I give a user permission to use "reboot"? |
| 01:47.49 | lazarus | dodgyville: man 5 sudoers |
| 01:48.10 | shadows | hm |
| 01:48.11 | sanxiyn | btw, http://counter.li.org/ says it is 142220 now... |
| 01:48.21 | shadows | mandrake distro has a user-accessible "reboot" command |
| 01:48.37 | vladkao | shadows: um, so what ? |
| 01:48.46 | shadows | is that with sudo? |
| 01:48.49 | Guerin | shadows: bully for them |
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| 01:48.55 | vladkao | shadows: nope |
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| 01:49.13 | Guerin | shadows: no, I think not - shudtown has a config file where you can define who can use it, as well |
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| 01:49.20 | dodgyville | lazarus: I added "username boxname = NOPASSWD: /sbin/reboot" but it says "user <username> not allowed to execute /sbin/su reboot as root on box" |
| 01:49.55 | |QuaD| | i am trying to do a make-kpkg and am in my kernel-source directory... and i get an error that stops me on this... can someone tell me what this means "make[1]: *** No rule to make target `conf_vars'. Stop." |
| 01:50.01 | mdh | http://bash.org/?8209 |
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| 01:50.29 | shadows | Guerin, okay |
| 01:50.35 | lazarus | does the user need to relog for sudoers changes? i didn't think so |
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| 01:50.49 | Guerin | mdh: http://bash.org/?48206 |
| 01:50.51 | romulo | hi, ive compiled 2.6 now and when im gonna change from X to console with the new geforcE(NVIDIA) driver, it hangs up all the pc...any suggestions? |
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| 01:51.14 | dodgyville | lazarus: I don't think so, I'll try it. |
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| 01:52.20 | dodgyville | shadows, lazarus: It's ok, I should have been using "sudo" (d'oh) (not "su") |
| 01:52.30 | lazarus | dodgyville: heh |
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| 01:52.56 | g | whats a good cd ripping app? |
| 01:53.04 | lazarus | dodgyville: btw, changes to /etc/group do require the user to relog before they take effect (where my question came from) |
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| 01:53.19 | denken | g: grip |
| 01:53.22 | dodgyville | My next problem is with my login. |
| 01:53.26 | dodgyville | Now, I get to "Starting X display manager: xdm" but it just immediately goes to console root |
| 01:53.26 | sanxiyn | g: k3b |
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| 01:53.36 | dodgyville | runlevel says "N 5" |
| 01:53.40 | shadows | aye |
| 01:53.50 | vladkao | dodgyville: does X start with startx ? |
| 01:53.54 | shadows | g: i used sound juicer. easy if you're a gnome user |
| 01:53.56 | ledestin | g: cdparanoia |
| 01:54.04 | dodgyville | vladkao: Yes |
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| 01:54.55 | romulo | hi, ive compiled 2.6 now and when im gonna change from X to console with the new geforcE(NVIDIA) driver, it hangs up all the pc...any suggestions??? |
| 01:55.15 | lazarus | romulo: proprietary |
| 01:55.18 | sanxiyn | romulo: no suggestion from me :-( |
| 01:55.21 | thomas_adam | dodgyville: ? |
| 01:55.31 | shadows | romulo, petition nvidia to open their drivers |
| 01:55.34 | thomas_adam | dodgyville: hows it going? |
| 01:55.35 | lazarus | romulo: #nvidia |
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| 01:56.20 | dodgyville | thomas_adam: Fine, still having trouble with single-user mode or something |
| 01:56.34 | thomas_adam | dodgyville: Weird, grub or lilo? |
| 01:56.35 | romulo | =( |
| 01:56.48 | vladkao | romulo: DON'T use framebuffer |
| 01:56.52 | |QuaD| | thomas_adam, do u have any ideas as to my error above? |
| 01:57.02 | mdh | Guerin: http://bash.org/?168859 |
| 01:57.12 | dodgyville | thomas_adam: lilo, but I'm pretty sure its some init script, there's noone on knoppix to help, and since its debian based I thought I might sneak in here |
| 01:57.26 | romulo | vladkao, just that? |
| 01:57.36 | vladkao | romulo: yes |
| 01:57.41 | thomas_adam | dodgyville: you're running knoppix? |
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| 01:57.52 | dodgyville | thomas_adam: Yeah |
| 01:58.21 | romulo | vladkao, thansk |
| 01:58.25 | idnar | !headbang |
| 01:58.35 | thomas_adam | dodgyville: Ask in #knoppix |
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| 01:58.47 | dodgyville | thomas_adam: Yes, there's no one there to help |
| 01:58.53 | Guerin | !moron dodgyville |
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| 01:58.54 | dpkg | dodgyville: You are moron #17 |
| 01:59.01 | thomas_adam | dodgyville: Well, you won't get much help here, matey. |
| 01:59.06 | aaaaaa | quick help needed |
| 01:59.09 | thomas_adam | Notice how calm I am about this tonight. |
| 01:59.13 | dodgyville | thomas_adam: I'm the only one answering questions in that group, and when that's the case people are in serious trouble :) |
| 01:59.14 | thomas_adam | Normally I AM SHOUTING. |
| 01:59.20 | aaaaaa | with woody_r2 do i need 2nd cd to install? |
| 01:59.25 | thomas_adam | r2? |
| 01:59.26 | thomas_adam | rtf... |
| 01:59.28 | stew | aaaaaa: no |
| 01:59.29 | aaaaaa | cant i install using the 1st cd? |
| 01:59.29 | mdh | thomas_adam: the new drugs are working, then? |
| 01:59.34 | Guerin | thomas_adam: yes, you're all peace and tranquility |
| 01:59.36 | thomas_adam | mdh: Just. |
| 01:59.41 | romulo | vladkao, thats the only problem? |
| 01:59.42 | thomas_adam | Guerin: I KNOW i am. :) |
| 01:59.44 | stew | aaaaaa: you just need one cd and a network connection |
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| 01:59.56 | aaaaaa | stew: so which cd do i use? |
| 01:59.59 | stew | aaaaaa: /msg dpkg netinst |
| 02:00.05 | vladkao | romulo: no. the problem is called nVidia. but without fb you'll be much better |
| 02:00.15 | aaaaaa | thomas_adam: debian 3.0r2 |
| 02:00.23 | thomas_adam | aaaaaa: aaaaaaah |
| 02:00.30 | The^Eagle | vladkao is ati better? |
| 02:00.31 | shadows | ah |
| 02:00.49 | aaaaaa | stew: ic... |
| 02:00.51 | dodgyville | It's a debian system, I run XFree from packages, xdm, kdm ... all debian packages ... I thought it might be a problem in the debian domain. |
| 02:00.58 | vladkao | The^Eagle: i don't know, but of what i've heard, not much better |
| 02:01.02 | Guerin | !ic |
| 02:01.02 | dpkg | ic is probably (AKA) 'slurpy' or a conspiracy by the Indo-American community to take over your neighborhood via inexpensive groceries and snacks, or a very dangerous person I see (I C) |
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| 02:01.10 | The^Eagle | vladkao the drivers are alot better for nvidia |
| 02:01.14 | romulo | vladkao, thanks =) |
| 02:01.32 | vladkao | The^Eagle: if that's true, then ati are screwed |
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| 02:02.04 | The^Eagle | vladkao hehe, ati's don't give full opengl support, dri doesn't seem to work or something |
| 02:02.26 | islo | hello everyoen |
| 02:02.37 | Guerin | dpkg, ic =~ s/I see/or I see for MORONS who are too lazy to type properly/ |
| 02:02.38 | islo | I have a quick question, hopefully. |
| 02:02.38 | dpkg | OK, Guerin |
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| 02:03.07 | prock | anyone know how to get amavis to run more than 3 daemons at a time? |
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| 02:03.16 | mdh | The^Eagle: sounds like pebcak to me |
| 02:03.18 | thomas_adam | Guerin: u dnt know any fin, do ya? |
| 02:03.18 | Guerin | prock: ask in #amavis |
| 02:03.22 | aaaaaa | hey netinst image on debian site is 186MB |
| 02:03.30 | prock | Guerin: good idea |
| 02:03.34 | thomas_adam | !tell aaaaaa about d-i |
| 02:03.37 | Guerin | thomas_adam: no I dnt |
| 02:03.49 | thomas_adam | thxplzbye |
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| 02:04.09 | vladkao | thomas_adam: kthx bye |
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| 02:04.25 | Guerin | !aolify vladkao |
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| 02:04.27 | thomas_adam | vladkao: Ugh! |
| 02:04.31 | vladkao | hah |
| 02:04.34 | g | how do i mount music cds? |
| 02:04.39 | thomas_adam | HAHAHA |
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| 02:04.41 | Guerin | g: you don't |
| 02:04.42 | islo | I'm using fai for installation, and it seems that my nvidia-kernel packages don't install in the correct directory. rather than installing in /lib/modules/$kernelversion, they're put in /lib/modules/$kernelversion_XXXXX |
| 02:04.42 | thomas_adam | you don't. |
| 02:04.45 | tchmnkyz | hey all, was wondering if anyone could explain the diff with xfree86 and x.org (just saw that slack was changing) and is debian going that way? |
| 02:04.48 | lazarus | g you don't |
| 02:04.49 | debian | g: no |
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| 02:04.57 | thomas_adam | !tell tchmnkyz about xorg |
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| 02:05.13 | g | when i run grip, it says unable to initialize /dev/cdrom |
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| 02:05.26 | tchmnkyz | i c thnx |
| 02:05.30 | Guerin | g: read the docs for an explanation of that error |
| 02:05.35 | Guerin | !ic |
| 02:05.35 | dpkg | it has been said that ic is (AKA) 'slurpy' or a conspiracy by the Indo-American community to take over your neighborhood via inexpensive groceries and snacks, or a very dangerous person or I see for MORONS who are too lazy to type properly (I C) |
| 02:05.39 | Guerin | !thx |
| 02:05.39 | dpkg | np lol |
| 02:05.44 | vladkao | hah |
| 02:05.47 | tchmnkyz | now my second question is there a easy way to play itunes files in debian? |
| 02:05.51 | vladkao | aol rules tonight |
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| 02:06.26 | denken | tchmnkyz: "itunes files" ?? |
| 02:06.32 | tchmnkyz | yea |
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| 02:06.41 | tchmnkyz | apples itunes |
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| 02:06.43 | lazarus | wtf is that? |
| 02:06.45 | Guerin | tchmnkyz: sux to be you using itunes |
| 02:06.47 | denken | <sigh> |
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| 02:06.54 | thomas_adam | dpkg, ic =~ s# # # |
| 02:06.54 | dpkg | OK, thomas_adam |
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| 02:07.01 | tchmnkyz | i dont anymore |
| 02:07.09 | Sakina | thomas_adam, I have finished with apt-get install kernel-package build-essentials |
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| 02:07.14 | denken | itunes is an mp3 player. its does have "files"... not like you would have an "illustrator file (.ai) |
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| 02:07.17 | denken | " |
| 02:07.18 | Guerin | tchmnkyz: probably there is, but I don't know it, because you'll never catch me buying drm music |
| 02:07.19 | islo | tchmnkyz: you can use playfair |
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| 02:07.20 | denken | and so forth |
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| 02:07.21 | tchmnkyz | i just cant find (yet) a app to convirt it |
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| 02:07.32 | Guerin | denken: you don't know much about itunes, do you? |
| 02:07.37 | thomas_adam | Sakina: /msg dpkg kp |
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| 02:07.47 | denken | Guerin: i know more than you, im sure of it. |
| 02:07.51 | Guerin | tchmnkyz: google on fairplay/playfair |
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| 02:07.59 | tchmnkyz | only real use i had for it was the free songs from pepsi |
| 02:07.59 | tchmnkyz | lol |
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| 02:08.18 | islo | anyone in here have any idea about why my kernel packages install in strange directories? |
| 02:08.20 | Guerin | denken: perhaps so, but you don't seem to be aware of how their DRM works... |
| 02:08.31 | Guerin | islo: hos strange? |
| 02:08.32 | stew | islo: define strange |
| 02:08.40 | Guerin | s/hos/how/ |
| 02:08.43 | denken | i can guess that he mean AAC encoded audio files, but that doesnt mean that calling them "itunes files" is the proper terminology |
| 02:08.45 | islo | I'm using fai for installation, and it seems that my nvidia-kernel packages don't install in the correct directory. rather than installing in /lib/modules/$kernelversion, they're put in /lib/modules/$kernelversion_XXXXX |
| 02:08.45 | spock_ | i just installed gdm and all of my fonts are super tiny and completely unreadable except those in the console, any ideas? (Debian Testing, Kernel 2.4.18-bf2.4) |
| 02:09.23 | Guerin | denken: that's true for AAC in general, but if they're itunes-drmed AAC files, then his terminology was perfectly correct |
| 02:09.26 | abydos | Testing doesn't use 2.4.18-bf2.4 |
| 02:09.33 | Sakina | thomas_adam, some packages are not being able to download (apt-get update) |
| 02:09.36 | stew | islo: you should probably talk to the maintainer about that |
| 02:09.43 | spock_ | abydos: yes it does because im running it... |
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| 02:09.54 | denken | Guerin: itunes also plays .wav and .mp3... does that make them "itunes files" as well? |
| 02:09.55 | Guerin | abydos: it does if you upgrade from woody |
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| 02:10.03 | denken | if so, which one was he talking about? |
| 02:10.06 | abydos | ahh, that would make sense. Thanks guerin |
| 02:10.11 | spock_ | :P |
| 02:10.18 | Guerin | denken: are they drmed by apple? If not, no. |
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| 02:10.33 | abydos | spock_: You might try upgrading your kernel, bf2.4's a bit old |
| 02:10.36 | Strife | if I have a USB mouse, which device in /dev do I select for the Xfree config file? |
| 02:10.37 | Guerin | spock_: /msg dpkg gtk fonts |
| 02:10.43 | islo | stew: well, I suppose so, but it seems to be a generic debian problem, because I've seen it with other packages |
| 02:10.48 | spock_ | Guerin: thanks |
| 02:10.53 | Sakina | thomas_adam, from which link do you usually apt-get update? |
| 02:10.55 | stew | islo: such as? |
| 02:10.58 | Guerin | abydos: good idesa, but it won't help with the fonts |
| 02:11.05 | denken | DRM'd AAC files and not unplayable in other applications... so i dont see your point. |
| 02:11.09 | denken | s/and/are |
| 02:11.10 | mdh | Strife: /dev/input/mice |
| 02:11.11 | spock_ | Guerin: dpkg has no idea |
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| 02:11.16 | Strife | ah that's right |
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| 02:11.19 | Strife | thank you, mdh |
| 02:11.20 | tchmnkyz | figures |
| 02:11.22 | tchmnkyz | ok |
| 02:11.23 | thomas_adam | Sakina: just keep trying with your connection. |
| 02:11.24 | Guerin | !listkeys font |
| 02:11.25 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'font' by key (15 shown; 49 total): msttcorefonts ;; gnome-terminal font problems ;; boxes instead of fonts ;; big fonts ;; ansi fonts ;; ttfonts ;; install font ;; msttcorefonts #DEL# ;; dfontmgr ;; gtk font change ;; start a font war ;; font ;; console fonts ;; bobfont ;; fontconfig. |
| 02:11.37 | Guerin | !gtk font change |
| 02:11.37 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, gtk font change is switch from the gtk-theme-switch package for gtk1 apps, switch2 from the same for gtk2. |
| 02:11.39 | opp | why is it that my gaim cannot see avaters , and even receive file transfers from my frens in msn messenger? |
| 02:11.39 | islo | stew: all kernel modules packages, lm-sensors, cloop, i2c, etc... |
| 02:11.44 | Guerin | spock_: ^^ |
| 02:11.45 | vladkao | Guerin: /msg dpkg gtk fonts no such factoid |
| 02:11.48 | Sakina | thomas_adam, everything else worked, except this. |
| 02:11.50 | Guerin | my bad |
| 02:11.58 | thomas_adam | Sakina: Keep trying. |
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| 02:12.10 | vladkao | Guerin: yes, your bad :) |
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| 02:12.15 | Guerin | opp: read the gaim documentation |
| 02:12.16 | vladkao | Guerin: now fix it ;) |
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| 02:12.26 | Strife | actually, /dev/input/mice does not work |
| 02:12.33 | Strife | I can't actually move my mouse at all! |
| 02:12.40 | Strife | but strangely enough, X will start up |
| 02:12.40 | vladkao | Strife: um, define "doesn't work" |
| 02:12.47 | g | ok i upgraded from the 2.4 kernel to 2.6, how do i change my cdrom from SCSI to IDE? |
| 02:12.47 | Guerin | !tell Strife about mouse |
| 02:12.48 | vladkao | sounds like pebcak |
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| 02:12.49 | lazarus | superglue |
| 02:12.56 | Guerin | gah |
| 02:12.56 | Strife | ^ cursor doesn't move when I move the mouse |
| 02:12.57 | dodgyville | Hello again. |
| 02:12.57 | Sakina | thomas_adam, I guess a particular package is corrupted in ftp.freenet.de everything else downloads. |
| 02:13.04 | Guerin | the factoids do not love me today |
| 02:13.20 | stew | islo: what lm-sesors package? cloop is a source package, i don't know about i2c |
| 02:13.38 | islo | stew: they're all kernel modules packages |
| 02:13.59 | dodgyville | My kdm is broken, I have the kde packages sitting in /var/cache/apt-get/archive (but not the latest versions, which I don't want to download). Is dpkg -i the way to reinstall kde, or is there an apt-get reinstall existing kdm command I can do? |
| 02:13.59 | islo | stew: when built with make-kpkg, sometimes they install in odd directories. Oh, well. |
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| 02:14.05 | stew | islo: then you aren't talking about debian packages |
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| 02:14.14 | s|Lv3r-4-tux | i ahve a problem: installed linux, and the lilo (or grub for that matter) won't install |
| 02:14.37 | dodgyville | the wail of a 1,000 lost souls |
| 02:14.37 | vladkao | s|Lv3r-4-tux: you sure ? |
| 02:14.48 | Guerin | !tell Strife about mouse 2.6 |
| 02:14.50 | cyberdrek | s|Lv3r-4-tux, is it lilo or Grub? |
| 02:14.59 | Guerin | !tell Strife about 2.6 mouse |
| 02:15.01 | s|Lv3r-4-tux | vladkao lilo and grub |
| 02:15.01 | Guerin | gaaah |
| 02:15.04 | alfi | when y execute te program wvdal y get this error: ttyS1: LSR safety check engaged! |
| 02:15.13 | s|Lv3r-4-tux | cyberdrek tried both |
| 02:15.13 | Strife | hmm |
| 02:15.26 | spock_ | well, with that gtk font sel, i cant find any gtk font packages... i guess im lost on what to do next |
| 02:15.26 | Guerin | s|Lv3r-4-tux: then you ain't installing it right |
| 02:15.26 | alfi | and when y put setserial -a /dev/ttyS1 y get the same error |
| 02:15.28 | stew | s|Lv3r-4-tux: #debian-boot |
| 02:15.32 | vladkao | s|Lv3r-4-tux: what error do you get ? |
| 02:15.33 | Strife | does 2.6 mouse have to do with kernel 2.6? |
| 02:15.35 | islo | stew: of course I am. lm-sensors-source is used to build lm-sensors. Oh, forget it. |
| 02:15.54 | stew | islo: you aren't using make-kpkg correctly then |
| 02:15.54 | alfi | does anyone know what is that safety check thing? |
| 02:15.57 | s|Lv3r-4-tux | vladkao: it boots and L appears |
| 02:16.05 | s|Lv3r-4-tux | and then it hangs |
| 02:16.05 | vladkao | s|Lv3r-4-tux: /msg dpkg L |
| 02:16.11 | islo | stew: ahahahahaha nevermind |
| 02:16.24 | vladkao | somebody changed it :( |
| 02:16.28 | Guerin | spock_: /msg dpkg gtk2 font |
| 02:16.37 | Guerin | spock_: I promise it works.... |
| 02:16.40 | vladkao | s|Lv3r-4-tux: sorry, my bad :( /msg dpkg li |
| 02:16.47 | spock_ | thanks :) |
| 02:16.48 | KrytenX | islo: you doing a make-kpkg modules_image in the same src dir as the kernel version you're running? |
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| 02:17.08 | thomas_adam | I'm really going to bed now. |
| 02:17.32 | thomas_adam | alfi: safety check to what? |
| 02:17.33 | alfi | thomas_adam: remember me? |
| 02:17.38 | Guerin | Strife: yes |
| 02:17.40 | thomas_adam | How could I forget... |
| 02:17.44 | vladkao | thomas_adam: g'nite :) |
| 02:17.50 | thomas_adam | :) |
| 02:17.53 | thomas_adam | alfi: quickly now... |
| 02:18.01 | islo | KrytenX: Hrm, no. I'm building on 2.4.25, and building 2.6.5. The modules work fine, it's just that I believe either the package itself or FAI puts them in the wrong place. |
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| 02:18.05 | thomas_adam | 5 4 3 2 .... |
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| 02:18.16 | thomas_adam | Too slow. |
| 02:18.16 | alfi | thomas_adam: y use the setserial thing and guess what? |
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| 02:18.19 | stew | islo: if you think there is something in a kernel module source package that tells it where in /lib/modules/???/ to install then you are wrong |
| 02:18.26 | alfi | thomas_adam: safety check again |
| 02:18.36 | kitanokikori | I've got some problems with smbmount, I try to connect to a share and get Access Denied |
| 02:18.36 | KrytenX | i don't know about fai |
| 02:18.38 | Strife | you sure that there's no other device to tell it to use for USB mice? (I've been able to get it to successfully work with /dev/psaux on other distros before) |
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| 02:18.44 | kitanokikori | I've set permissions to everyone |
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| 02:19.03 | Guerin | Strife: in 2.6 kernels, /dev/psaux is deprecated in favour of /dev/input/mice |
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| 02:19.09 | kitanokikori | Used a correct username and workgroup, it still doesn't take |
