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| 00:00.06 | saloxin | Nanaki: /msg dpkg nvidia |
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| 00:00.29 | asg | greg_work: constant |
| 00:00.34 | saloxin | Nanaki: the debian packages in sid are up to date, and working ok |
| 00:00.44 | asg | greg_work: it's necessary because many subsystems the sites depend on may or may not be up. |
| 00:00.46 | Nanaki | sid being? |
| 00:00.49 | Nanaki | I'm kind of a newb. |
| 00:00.57 | mdaly | anyone here got there ipod mounted? i can't seem to get mine to work |
| 00:01.02 | dcode | I am using the madwifi driver with the patch to allow changing of the MAC address |
| 00:01.04 | asg | greg_work: for instance, if a user cannot log in, LDAP may be broken. |
| 00:01.09 | saloxin | Nanaki: what are you dist-upgrading to? |
| 00:01.09 | dcode | and I have two other ethernet interfaces plus a pppoe interface. My outbound |
| 00:01.13 | greg_work | asg: is this a non-technical-management descision? why not test the services? |
| 00:01.23 | asg | greg_work: while we can test LDAP, there are other factors that lead to a cascade that is immense. |
| 00:01.25 | Nanaki | saloxin I'm just running a atp-get dist-upgrade |
| 00:01.26 | dcode | I am using hte madwifi driver with the patch to allow changing of the MAC address. I have two other ethernet interfaces plus a pppoe interface. My outbound connection is ppp0. I have ath0, eth1, eth2 for internal interfaces. I have added these three interfaces to br0. Once the traffic leaves the linux router, it gets NAT'd and goes out through ppp0. All traffic on all segments works to reach the internet. Traffic cannot pass between the phys |
| 00:01.32 | Nanaki | It said I had 250MB of updates that were available |
| 00:01.33 | greg_work | asg: the code interfacing to them isn't going to break. if the service is up, then it works |
| 00:01.38 | Nanaki | So, I commenced the download |
| 00:01.39 | saloxin | Nanaki: no changes in sources.list? |
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| 00:01.47 | asg | greg_work: true but we also test for latency as well. |
| 00:01.53 | Nanaki | saloxin I recently changed from stable to testing |
| 00:02.01 | Nanaki | but that was two days ago |
| 00:02.04 | Nanaki | and X still doesn't work lol |
| 00:02.06 | alex_id | is it the job of /etc/init.d/network to do an ifup on startup ? |
| 00:02.12 | Nanaki | even after installing the nvidia kernel driver |
| 00:02.34 | saloxin | Nanaki: testing has codename sarge. sid is codename for unstable. /me thinks nvidia support in sarge is ok too |
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| 00:02.46 | asg | greg_work: so the service may be up when the check runs but not during an actual login attempt, etc. (we are also pulling from multiple SQL servers and a live mainframe feed using some crappy middleware that was purchased before I started working there.) |
| 00:02.47 | balzac | i'm trying to choose between gnome and kde |
| 00:02.47 | dcode | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:02.50 | Nanaki | How do I know which I have? |
| 00:02.56 | Nanaki | I know there's a debian version thing |
| 00:03.01 | saloxin | Nanaki: memorize the wise words of dpkg |
| 00:03.05 | asg | Nanaki: cat /etc/debian_versoin |
| 00:03.07 | asg | bah |
| 00:03.10 | greg_work | asg: ah.. but on the server as a whole should give an indication of that. if theres a particular page that loads slow, you should notice that in development.. otherwise, it's probably just a spontaneous load increase when you check that page |
| 00:03.10 | asg | Nanaki: cat /etc/debian_version |
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| 00:03.20 | Nanaki | cat /etc/debian_version |
| 00:03.20 | balzac | i'm having trouble deciding, gnome or kde |
| 00:03.22 | Nanaki | d'oh. |
| 00:03.48 | Nanaki | /bin/sh: line 1: /etc/debian_version: Permission denied |
| 00:03.48 | invsblduck | why all of a sudden (after unintentional changes) do my HOME and END keys generate tildes in my xterm, instead of moving to beginning/end of command line? |
| 00:03.48 | balzac | anybody have any compelling reasons why they choose one or the other? |
| 00:03.48 | asg | greg_work: it isn't coding issues, it is the problem of spreading many services over too large an area (w/o transaction processing etc.) |
| 00:03.48 | greg_work | asg: hrm. still seems strange to me ;) its a quick check to make sure ldap is online. |
| 00:03.53 | invsblduck | how do i "fix" that sh*t? |
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| 00:04.06 | alex_id | can anyone help me out ? |
| 00:04.10 | greg_work | asg: geographically large area? |
| 00:04.21 | Nanaki | Now where am I? |
| 00:04.31 | tp76 | balzac: KDE is too much bells and whistles, IMO. I use GNOME. Try both and pick the one you like best. |
| 00:04.38 | invsblduck | alex_id: not sure; did you read /etc/init.d/network ? |
| 00:04.39 | asg | greg_work: ~45 miles in diameter between all core systems involved. |
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| 00:04.41 | greg_work | that does complicate things.. though caches, if possible, can help the latency |
| 00:04.53 | greg_work | thats kinda too bad ;) |
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| 00:05.12 | asg | greg_work: the SLA is what is killing us. |
| 00:05.20 | invsblduck | alex_id: i just typed `ls /etc/init.d` and i see a script named ifupdown |
| 00:05.23 | greg_work | asg: i'm assuming this isn't something that was designed like that, it just grew around existing systems? |
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| 00:05.26 | invsblduck | alex_id: maybe you should look there? |
| 00:05.27 | saloxin | alex_id: you making an alternate 'whereami' setup? |
| 00:05.34 | balzac | tp76, i'm liking gnomes clean look, but i'd like to use tree-view to navigate and i'd like to turn off the each folder opening in a new window |
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| 00:05.37 | asg | greg_work: yes, education works that way :) |
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| 00:05.46 | greg_work | asg: oh, theres the magic word ;) |
| 00:05.46 | balzac | it's too mac-like |
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| 00:06.00 | balzac | guess i'll ask in #gnome |
| 00:06.01 | asg | greg_work: not only that college education, not uni. |
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| 00:06.11 | greg_work | asg: if ever you want to see strange systems and completely ineffecient system designs, go to a school :) |
| 00:06.21 | asg | greg_work: I work at one :) |
| 00:06.22 | zoom | I am re-installing Debian, HD became corrupt but i can recover most files.. is there a file that tells me every apt package i have installed? |
| 00:06.36 | alex_id | invsblduck, thanks |
| 00:06.37 | greg_work | asg: i've heard about it. it would drive me nuts :) |
| 00:06.51 | asg | greg_work: it can be odd but has some perks (why I'm still there really) |
| 00:06.52 | tp76 | balzac: I don't like the spatial nautilus either. Turn it off using gconf-editor (google will tell you how). Nautilus has a tree-view (press F9). |
| 00:06.59 | flugh | zoom: google for 'dpkg --set-selections' it'll probably point you at a relevant link |
| 00:07.04 | dcode | I am using hte madwifi driver with the patch to allow changing of the MAC address. I have two other ethernet interfaces plus a pppoe interface. My outbound connection is ppp0. I have ath0, eth1, eth2 for internal interfaces. I have added these three interfaces to br0. Once the traffic leaves the linux router, it gets NAT'd and goes out through ppp0. All traffic on all segments works to reach the internet. Traffic cannot pass between the phys |
| 00:07.12 | Nanaki | So, why can't I check the version in root either? |
| 00:07.21 | flugh | zoom: i don't recall teh exact command, and am on my windows box, so can't investigate very far. sorry |
| 00:07.26 | greg_work | asg: "oh, no, you can't setup a database. you have to get the database guys to set one up on one of their database machines". db guys: "no, we won't enable that feature you're asking for. its policy" |
| 00:07.29 | asg | greg_work: for instance, I have ~20k worth of switch/routing equipment available for lan parties |
| 00:07.34 | sbetore | greg_work: Amen to that... |
| 00:07.36 | greg_work | asg: hehe |
| 00:07.47 | zoom | flugh, ahh thanks.. but im actually gonna be recovering it freom a boot disk.. coz linuxs wont boot :) |
| 00:07.47 | sbetore | greg_work: You should see our school. |
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| 00:07.53 | Nanaki | It says I'm using "testing/unstable" |
| 00:07.56 | asg | greg_work: we all wear 100 hats where I work, I have my hands in all kinds of pies. |
| 00:07.57 | Nanaki | So, which one :D |
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| 00:08.00 | greg_work | "oh no! you can't setup a db server yourself, it will make the db guys look bad!" |
| 00:08.05 | alex_id | saloxin, what is a whereamI set up ? I am trying to have two configuration, one for my work the other home, I think I have done that and I know how to switch from one to the other, now I am looking at having one of the both by default at startup |
| 00:08.18 | saloxin | dcode: your message gets cut of at " cannot pass between phys[...]" |
| 00:08.22 | greg_work | asg: well, that can be good. my job is like that :p |
| 00:08.24 | sbetore | greg_work: There is a 11,000-dollar server, brand new, in our computer room. |
| 00:08.30 | flugh | zoom: you do something like 'dpkg --set-selections < [some file from /var/apt/blahblah/]>' |
| 00:08.32 | asg | greg_work: we're understaffed; I do db, I do switching, I have root on a Sunfire 6800, yada, yada, yada |
| 00:08.40 | sbetore | greg_work: Never been plugged in. |
| 00:08.41 | zoom | ill google :) |
| 00:08.42 | saloxin | alex_id: apt-cache show whereami :) |
| 00:08.43 | asg | greg_work: never a dull moment |
| 00:08.44 | zoom | ta |
| 00:08.45 | flugh | so if you can recover the file in /var/lib/apt/blahblah, you are ok |
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| 00:08.56 | CompWizrd | i use an 80,000 dollar AS/400 to hold my tapes at work. |
| 00:08.59 | dcode | saloxin it can't betwen phy devices |
| 00:09.06 | asg | CompWizrd: heh |
| 00:09.08 | dcode | traffic that is |
| 00:09.10 | barn | that's so annoying, this dvd is 4.8gig, they did that on purpose I bet |
| 00:09.13 | CompWizrd | it's left over from the last upgrade |
| 00:09.24 | asg | CompWizrd: our Sunfire has a 'Designed for Windows 98' sticker on the front :) |
| 00:09.37 | TML | What would cause initrd kernels to halt with "/sbin/init: 218: cannot open dev/console: No such file" |
| 00:09.37 | barn | anyone know how to fix drip in SID please? it complains due to avifile's librarys being broken |
| 00:09.44 | greg_work | asg: i'm a one-man IT/programming department in a small business that has nothing to do with computers :p |
| 00:09.44 | CompWizrd | asg: about all ican do is a ... at that. |
| 00:09.48 | asg | barn: check the bts |
| 00:09.55 | g4lt | asg don't joke about that. Sun products get those now |
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| 00:09.58 | barn | asg: bts? |
| 00:10.00 | dcode | I am using hte madwifi driver with the patch to allow changing of the MAC address. I have two other ethernet interfaces plus a pppoe interface. My outbound connection is ppp0. I have ath0, eth1, eth2 for internal interfaces. I have added these three interfaces to br0. Once the traffic leaves the linux router, it gets NAT'd and goes out through ppp0. All traffic on all segments works to reach the internet. Traffic cannot pass between phys dev |
| 00:10.06 | alex_id | saloxin, I don't think I actually need this |
| 00:10.07 | saloxin | dcode: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward =1 |
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| 00:10.20 | saloxin | dcode: ? |
| 00:10.21 | wuhuu | hello |
| 00:10.25 | dcode | saloxin that is true |
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| 00:10.39 | greg_work | asg: sort of anyway ,thats becoming less true as we start putting PC's at all these sites that control everything. |
| 00:10.47 | greg_work | (which is my job) |
| 00:10.58 | saloxin | dcode: I don't knw much about bridges unfortunately |
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| 00:11.09 | sbetore | Anyone here work(ed) at Siemens? |
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| 00:11.11 | dcode | saloxin drat...me neither |
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| 00:11.17 | dcode | hence my problem |
| 00:11.31 | sbetore | Or, alternatively, even better, Tandberg Data? |
| 00:11.39 | greg_work | asg: the biggest thing i've heard from people that work at schools, is a lot of people just have no ambition. they don't try to do new or interesting things, they just like things they way they are |
| 00:11.40 | sbetore | I've got this KICKASS old word processor here |
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| 00:12.05 | wuhuu | I have a question! Is there a module for the Promise Fastrak 376 (OnBoard S-ATA-Raid controller on my MSI K7N2-Delta ILSR) for the 2.6 Kermnel |
| 00:12.06 | saloxin | alex_id: auto eth=work in interfaces? (not tested of course) |
| 00:12.09 | wuhuu | -m |
| 00:12.13 | mentor | meh. need pager. |
| 00:12.17 | saloxin | g4lt: coolio |
| 00:12.20 | greg_work | asg: so you often get people that are trying to do this crazy new fangled web-based technology, and the old techies that wan't no part of it and are perfectly happy making sure the 12 year old mainframe just stays online |
| 00:12.29 | wuhuu | i heard about the moudle sata_promise but ... |
| 00:12.39 | aveng0 | anybody using libpam-usb? |
| 00:12.39 | alex_id | saloxin, that is good idea, thanks |
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| 00:12.49 | Wyzard | Wow... installing Debian on SATA boards has suddenly become a very common problem in what seems like the past few days |
| 00:12.51 | dcode | anyone have any suggestions where to go for ansers about bridgin with an atheros card? |
| 00:13.01 | wuhuu | i had a module compield called ft3xx for 2.4 kernel ... |
| 00:13.16 | sbetore | It's got - - an 8" floppy drive - - an 8" hard drive (10 megs!! It's a huge bastard!) a mainboard three times the size of standard ATX... |
| 00:13.32 | sbetore | And I desperately seek docs/sware |
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| 00:13.40 | mentor | sbetore: Does it run NetBSD? |
| 00:13.56 | sbetore | mentor: Not YET ;) |
| 00:14.24 | dcode | I am using hte madwifi driver with the patch to allow changing of the MAC address. I have two other ethernet interfaces plus a pppoe interface. My outbound connection is ppp0. I have ath0, eth1, eth2 for internal interfaces. I have added these three interfaces to br0. Once the traffic leaves the linux router, it gets NAT'd and goes out through ppp0. All traffic on all segments works to reach the internet. Traffic cannot pass between phys dev |
| 00:14.36 | Wyzard | wuhuu: There's a driver in 2.6.6 (and probably earlier, but I only have 2.6.6 source around to check) for "Promise Serial ATA" -- dunno if it's for that specific chip |
| 00:14.39 | roo9 | is yellowdog linux non-free? |
| 00:14.41 | saloxin | !tell dcode about repeat |
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| 00:15.09 | asg_ | moron isp |
| 00:15.12 | asg_ | !kick asg's isp |
| 00:15.17 | wuhuu | Wyzard, i have 2.6.6 compiled with Promise s ata |
| 00:15.24 | wuhuu | but ... |
| 00:15.37 | wuhuu | i don't know how to mount these drives ... |
| 00:16.04 | mentor | asg_: you need to move to Sweden...one of the DDs has 100MBit Inet access... |
| 00:16.07 | barn | until the libsupsys fix is in place, anyone know how I can get kde installed (i need to use k3b) |
| 00:16.12 | CompWizrd | sbetore: does it run debian? |
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| 00:16.22 | asg | mentor: I do at work :) I'm not at work though :( |
| 00:16.28 | Wyzard | wuhuu: Load the module and look in /proc/ide (or /proc/scsi maybe, since the SATA modules are in the SCSI section) I guess... I've never used any SATA hardware so all I can tell you is that I've seen that module in the configuration |
| 00:16.35 | sbetore | CompWizrd: DAMNIT, It doesn't run ANYTHING until I rewire the damned thing! |
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| 00:16.46 | CompWizrd | oh, it's a hardware problem. |
| 00:16.47 | CompWizrd | ok. |
| 00:16.54 | sbetore | CompWizrd: Concievably it could - it runs slightly x86 compatible |
| 00:16.54 | CompWizrd | well, update the wirewrap! |
| 00:16.59 | mentor | asg: He has it at home. |
| 00:17.04 | asg | mentor: http://sed.mine.nu/computers/work/dells24.jpg (Extreme hardware) |
| 00:17.10 | asg | mentor: he should be shot :) |
| 00:17.16 | sbetore | CompWizrd: You know how to wirewrap? |
| 00:17.17 | asg | mentor: and I'd love to move to Sweden |
| 00:17.21 | CompWizrd | sbetore: vaguely |
| 00:17.28 | mentor | asg: Or held ransom in exchange for his pipe. |
| 00:17.36 | CompWizrd | i put together a full adder when i was around 8. |
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| 00:17.42 | CompWizrd | so it's been a few years |
| 00:17.47 | mentor | asg: oh oh...no fair. |
| 00:17.49 | asg | mentor: hell, I'd do dialup if I were in Sweden. |
| 00:17.50 | wuhuu | i found out that the sata makes no raid out of it .... |
| 00:17.53 | sbetore | CompWizrd: Even knowing what wirewrapping is makes you deserve your nick :P |
| 00:17.59 | sbetore | CompWizrd: You too? :) |
| 00:18.01 | asg | mentor: gig fiber and copper :) |
| 00:18.01 | CompWizrd | pfft, i just tinker now and then :P |
| 00:18.15 | wuhuu | -> #flood |
| 00:18.16 | CompWizrd | my brother is the electronics nut here |
| 00:18.18 | CompWizrd | :) |
| 00:18.24 | mentor | asg: What's it for? |
| 00:18.29 | asg | mentor: testing |
| 00:18.29 | sbetore | CompWizrd: I'm rewrapping an entire 1960s computer |
| 00:18.36 | mentor | CompWizrd: With what components? |
| 00:18.40 | sbetore | CompWizrd: And THAT is going to be hell. |
| 00:18.43 | mentor | asg: Testing what? |
| 00:18.46 | asg | mentor: we are getting ready to rollout some APs |
| 00:18.54 | sandos | are c-libraries supposed to not do the 'extern "c" {}' stuff themselves? |
| 00:19.00 | Eclipser | is there a simple way to check how much I've downloaded/uploaded today? |
| 00:19.11 | asg | mentor: the antenae in the back plug into the 300 (on bottom) |
| 00:19.14 | mentor | asg: Access Points? Would one happen to be conviently situated at your house? |
| 00:19.25 | CompWizrd | mentor: hell if i know, he does hardware and software.. boy dreams in assembler sometimes. |
| 00:19.26 | saloxin | wuhuu: /dev/sda and sdb = funky |
| 00:19.28 | asg | mentor: authenticate via radius -> kerberos -> Active Directory |
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| 00:19.49 | mentor | asg: Now you need to be shot. |
| 00:19.50 | sbetore | CompWizrd: http://tore.nortia.no/images/tsb |
| 00:19.56 | Nanaki | dpkg didn't really help with my nvidia problem |
| 00:19.56 | dpkg | bugger all, i dunno, Nanaki |
| 00:20.02 | wuhuu | k i have the hds but howto get them into Raid ?? |
| 00:20.02 | asg | mentor: I have a crappy netgear wireless ap here (Until testing is over then I'll bring the Extremes home for ... er ... more testing :) |
| 00:20.03 | Nanaki | "D |
| 00:20.23 | CompWizrd | he's got an HP 16500A around here somewhere. |
| 00:20.27 | mentor | asg: What wireless protocol? |
| 00:20.28 | asg | mentor: like I said, working in education has certain advantages |
| 00:20.31 | CompWizrd | heats up the room quite nicely |
| 00:20.38 | wuhuu | and there is a promlem i have a stripe 1+0 hardware raid where a lot of data is on ... |
| 00:20.41 | asg | mentor: 802.11{a,b,g} |
| 00:20.57 | saloxin | wuhuu: start reading linux software raid howto |
| 00:20.57 | CompWizrd | sbetore: may i suggest a nice calculator to replace that? ;) |
| 00:21.05 | asg | mentor: auth via .1x and a web based login deal (like most Starbucks) |
| 00:21.12 | asg | mentor: I'm beta testing the firmware right now. |
| 00:21.14 | invsblduck | dude, my backspace key doesn't work, and delete prints a tilde |
| 00:21.19 | CompWizrd | oh, and keep the cat away from it ;) |
| 00:21.24 | invsblduck | how did my term get so jacked up |
| 00:21.29 | invsblduck | permanently? |
| 00:21.30 | barn | ARGH! fucking northbridge! |
| 00:21.35 | invsblduck | fuck ya! |
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| 00:21.42 | sbetore | CompWizrd: |
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| 00:21.54 | asg | CompWizrd: but you have to love (http://sed.mine.nu/cats/webster/webster-couch-4.jpg) |
| 00:22.02 | barn | oh that's so annoying |
| 00:22.15 | mentor | asg: Well, while we're on the subject...if I wanted to set up a long range wireless mesh type thingy, with multiple point to point links...what would you recommend using as hardware? |
| 00:22.33 | sbetore | CompWizrd: Ehum. How can you say that? :P |
| 00:22.35 | CompWizrd | sbetore: my brother says, and i quote, "you're fucked" |
| 00:22.40 | debian | asg: lol is it watching TV? :) |
| 00:22.45 | asg | mentor: well, my experience so far has only been with these Extreme Altitude APs |
| 00:22.52 | asg | debian: it watches everything |
| 00:22.54 | greg_work | mentor: you might also want to check out #wireless |
| 00:23.08 | sbetore | CompWizrd: Reply, "I wish. Restoring a PDP-7 sort of excludes any of that." :P |
| 00:23.37 | asg | mentor: Extreme is actually bringing some software and monitoring devices to plot optimal AP placement given the layout and materials in our buildings. |
| 00:23.38 | CompWizrd | sbetore: he says he could monitor every one of your little lights there |
| 00:23.59 | asg | mentor: cool stuff, though I can't make a recommendation since that hasn't happened yet. |
| 00:24.04 | BlackJudas[Ballz | May I ask a stupid question? What is the air velocity of an african swallow? |
| 00:24.11 | wuhuu | saloxin, but the two hds are in hardware raid0 already ..... and there is data on it ... btw hddtemp /dev/sda tells: No such device or address |
| 00:24.12 | sbetore | CompWizrd: Huh? I don't get it if that was a joke :P |
| 00:24.22 | CompWizrd | sbetore: with his 16500A :) |
| 00:24.27 | sbetore | BlackJudas[Ballz: You're right - that was very odd. |
| 00:24.37 | saloxin | wuhuu: no idea - never touched such beasts |
| 00:24.40 | CompWizrd | oh shit, i just noticed it's a pdp-7 |
| 00:24.42 | CompWizrd | heh. |
| 00:24.46 | CompWizrd | yeah, that's worth fixing up |
| 00:24.50 | alex_id | ok I got my machine to work on my work' s LAN, ouff ! Just a last question, it seems that all access to the internet such as a simple http://www.google.com/ or an access to an irc server takes a while before opening up does anyone knows why ? |
| 00:24.52 | asg | debian: http://sed.mine.nu/cats/webster/webster-bed.jpg (eating its own ear apparently) |
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| 00:25.00 | CompWizrd | he asks what's wrong with it? |
| 00:25.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 757] by debhelper |
| 00:25.10 | wuhuu | hmm |
| 00:25.16 | saloxin | alex_id: slow nameserver? |
| 00:25.22 | sbetore | BlackJudas[Ballz: You're right - that was stupid. WHY do you want to know that? |
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| 00:25.25 | greg_work | alex_id: /etc/resolv.conf might be wrong .. or yeah, slow name server |
| 00:25.30 | mentor | asg: Well, the main problem was channel seperation and signal degredation over long distances. |
| 00:25.32 | nixgeek | Can someone verify for me if kernel-image-2.4-k7 is the package to upgrade my kernel to 2.4.26 for AMD +2800 |
| 00:25.39 | sbetore | CompWizrd: Reply, "Pretty much everything except core mem and PSUs |
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| 00:25.54 | CompWizrd | hahhaahah |
| 00:25.55 | CompWizrd | ok. |
| 00:25.55 | asg | mentor: ah |
| 00:25.58 | CompWizrd | it's a long term project then. |
| 00:25.59 | greg_work | nixgeek: you could always use kernel-image-2.4.26-1-k7 |
| 00:26.00 | sbetore | CompWizrd: The IO system is b0rked, which sends the CPU into an infinite IRQ situation |
| 00:26.05 | BlackJudas[Ballz | sbetore: Ever watch Monty Python and the Holy Grail? |
| 00:26.07 | BlackJudas[Ballz | :P |
| 00:26.16 | nixgeek | greg_work... Thanks man! |
| 00:26.20 | sbetore | BlackJudas[Ballz: Yes, of course. |
| 00:26.36 | mentor | BlackJudas[Ballz: Laden or unladen? |
| 00:26.40 | CompWizrd | sbetore: " |
| 00:26.40 | CompWizrd | |
| 00:26.40 | CompWizrd | 0 items found for "pdp-7" |
| 00:26.45 | CompWizrd | no pdp-7's on ebay. |
| 00:26.50 | sbetore | BlackJudas[Ballz: I was had already typed "African or " when I recognized your specification. |
| 00:27.01 | wuhuu | I'll backup the data to a friend and make a softwareraid |
| 00:27.07 | alex_id | saloxin, you mean slow to resolve the name ? where is that server ? |
| 00:27.08 | sbetore | CompWizrd: Haha, there were 120 made, and 6 known remain :) |
| 00:27.28 | Ashen | anyone know if there are any packages like 'dig' for debian? I'm used to doing hostname<-->IP resolution using it and can't find it on deb. |
| 00:27.29 | saloxin | alex_id: the machine at the other end of /et/resolv.conf |
| 00:27.36 | asg | Ashen: apt-get install dnsutils |
| 00:27.37 | saloxin | /etc/ |
| 00:27.52 | ShadowRage | how do I set up quik on a powermac 8500? |
| 00:27.53 | alex_id | saloxin, ok I understand |
| 00:27.57 | sbetore | CompWizrd: I even got an email from dmr! |
| 00:27.59 | alex_id | thanks for this great help |
| 00:28.06 | asg | ShadowRage: #debianppc |
| 00:28.21 | phil-j | Hi everyone |
| 00:28.22 | ShadowRage | doh |
| 00:28.24 | ShadowRage | oh yeah |
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| 00:28.28 | Ashen | asg: that includes bind9-host, is that a server? |
| 00:28.37 | asg | Ashen: no, just the 'host' binary |
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| 00:28.42 | Ashen | asg: ok thanks |
| 00:28.52 | asg | Ashen: you're welcome |
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