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| 00:00.22 | jbr | poison: and you're root? though I can't see why update-menus would give permissions problems anyway... |
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| 00:01.03 | jbr | poison: you could always "editor /var/lib/dpkg/info/joe.postrm", hash out the line and try again... |
| 00:01.28 | jbr | poison: (after all, you'll be reinstalling a fixed version) |
| 00:01.57 | poison | jbr: I'm root |
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| 00:02.41 | poison | jbr: hashing the line did the fix |
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| 00:03.39 | poison | jbr: thanks |
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| 00:04.03 | jbr | poison: odd... I wonder if you'll find out where the problem was |
| 00:04.56 | h2k | how can i safely cut 1GB off my root partition? |
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| 00:05.42 | saloxin | h2k: "safely" is not known together with resizing partitions :( |
| 00:06.02 | h2k | ok, how can i cut 1GB off my root partition? |
| 00:06.05 | h2k | ,) |
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| 00:06.14 | Amarande | hmm |
| 00:06.21 | h2k | it is reiserfs |
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| 00:06.30 | mentor | h2k: parted? |
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| 00:06.31 | Amarande | hmm. how stable is sarge? |
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| 00:06.37 | cafuego | h2k: Then the answer is 'not'. |
| 00:06.41 | h2k | parted, but how? |
| 00:06.43 | h2k | not? |
| 00:06.45 | mentor | h2k: Shouldn't destroy any data, assuming no crashes, power or hardware failures. |
| 00:06.46 | JunK-Y | when im doing apt-get install wget, my last line of error is : |
| 00:06.46 | cafuego | Amarande: it's fine |
| 00:06.47 | JunK-Y | E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing? |
| 00:06.51 | JunK-Y | whats wrong ? |
| 00:07.01 | JunK-Y | i can't make any apt-get |
| 00:07.02 | cafuego | h2k: Does parted support resizing of reiser partitons? |
| 00:07.04 | mentor | oh reiserfs. |
| 00:07.11 | avu | What to do to copy a file from a CD which contains errors (just ignoring the errorness parts or so)? |
| 00:07.19 | mentor | one should check the support matrix. |
| 00:07.30 | k-man | i want to run mplayer to convert an audio file, but i don't have a soundcard, and mplayer needs one. is there a way to make a fake sound device? |
| 00:07.30 | h2k | damn |
| 00:07.35 | mentor | Does cdparanoia do data? |
| 00:07.42 | h2k | i'd like to install winNT for a change ;) |
| 00:07.51 | saloxin | h2k, cafuego: parted claims to support reiserfs, if libreiserfs is installed |
| 00:07.56 | avu | cp stops with an I/O error |
| 00:08.00 | saloxin | http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/parted.html |
| 00:08.01 | cafuego | saloxin: okie. |
| 00:08.16 | blizunt | ok im about to set an append="mem=1024M" unless that would be a problem due to gig limitation, should i use a lower value? |
| 00:08.41 | saloxin | to do this on a root partition, you need the bootdisk - break out the dreaded floppies again |
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| 00:08.53 | cafuego | blizunt: You have 1Gb and the box only sees 896Mb? |
| 00:08.58 | blizunt | yea |
| 00:09.05 | JunK-Y | is there any problem with debian servers ? |
| 00:09.05 | JunK-Y | Failed to fetch http://debian.yorku.ca/debian/pool/main/w/wget/wget_1.9.1-4_i386.deb Could not connect to debian.yorku.ca:80 (130.63.236.141). - connect (111 Connection refused) |
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| 00:09.13 | cafuego | blizunt: Recompile the kernel, enable HIGHMEM (set it to 4GB) |
| 00:09.22 | blizunt | but stock supports 1G |
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| 00:09.39 | blizunt | im not going to be adding mem and i have heard that can cause problems |
| 00:09.52 | blizunt | specifically with vmware (which i dont use) |
| 00:10.01 | Teakk | how hard is it to incorperate a quota for users? |
| 00:10.01 | blizunt | but i wouldnt want to run into anything else |
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| 00:10.09 | cafuego | blizunt: Hmm, vmware was fine with HIGHMEM here |
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| 00:10.31 | cafuego | Teakk: kernel with quota support, mount fs with quota, set quoa. |
| 00:10.35 | blizunt | cafuego: you dont think lilo is the solution? |
| 00:10.39 | saloxin | k-man: yes, alsa has snd-dummy |
| 00:10.48 | blizunt | cafuego: i do have a really crappy kernel |
| 00:10.57 | cafuego | blizunt: what does 'grep HIGHMEM /boot/config-$(uname -r)' say ? |
| 00:11.32 | blizunt | CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM=y |
| 00:11.33 | cafuego | blizunt: Well, afaik without HIGHMEM set it just can't access > 896Mb, even of you pass a boot param. |
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| 00:11.40 | saloxin | avu: dd_rescue |
| 00:11.52 | cafuego | blizunt: I reckon recompile the kernel, it's been working for for nearly on a year here. |
| 00:12.02 | netbrain | what debian package do i need to enable the program keyboard layouts under desktop preferences in gnome? |
| 00:12.08 | avu | saloxin: Thanks. |
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| 00:12.26 | JunK-Y | i cannot do an apt-get install wget, anyone can help me ? |
| 00:12.29 | blizunt | cafuego: ok, can i apt-get a kernel with highmem and reiser scsi? |
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| 00:12.44 | linfan | hello |
| 00:12.54 | saloxin | avu: package is called ddrescue, binary is dd_rescue |
| 00:13.24 | cafuego | blizunt: Yes, the precompiled kernels should all have that; note that you *must* set up initrd in lilo/grub for those. |
| 00:13.27 | linfan | my mouse setup is f!cked up. Have ps/2 but it won't be detected |
| 00:13.28 | avu | saloxin: apt-file already found it, but thanks again :) |
| 00:13.37 | jbr | JunK-Y: one solution is to get it from http://packages.debian.org/wget |
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| 00:13.50 | saloxin | avu: it even shows stats whlie rescuing :) |
| 00:13.50 | blizunt | linfan: try IMPS/2 |
| 00:13.59 | linfan | no wheel |
| 00:14.19 | blizunt | cafuego: all precompiled kernels should have highmem enabled? |
| 00:14.40 | cafuego | blizunt: I'm pretty sure they all have CONFIG_HIGHMEM=4 |
| 00:14.51 | blizunt | which give kern 2 and user 2? |
| 00:15.09 | blizunt | wow my grammar is awesome |
| 00:15.13 | k-man | saloxin, is that in the alsa-modules package? |
| 00:15.16 | netbrain | how do i change my keyboard layout manually? key for key? |
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| 00:15.34 | mickeyks | which do we like better, maildir or MH? |
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| 00:15.46 | saloxin | k-man: yes, or in 2.6 kernels |
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| 00:15.58 | linfan | blizunt: cannot open device /dev/input/mice or mouse0-3 or psaux |
| 00:16.32 | saloxin | linfan: 2.6 kernel? modprobe psmouse mousedev |
| 00:16.42 | linfan | k |
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| 00:17.12 | linfan | saloxin: where is it now? |
| 00:17.28 | saloxin | linfan: what? |
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| 00:17.34 | k-man | saloxin, im using 2.4.22, do i have to have alsa compiled into the kernel to use an alsa module? |
| 00:17.47 | linfan | the mouse after the modprobe |
| 00:17.50 | k-man | im beginning to think i should upgrade to 2.6 |
| 00:17.52 | k-man | *sigh* |
| 00:17.59 | ac1d | hm |
| 00:18.08 | ac1d | what do i need to compile in kernel to get usb scanner support |
| 00:18.09 | netbrain | can anyone tell me how i can change my keyboard layout? |
| 00:18.17 | Graeme | linfan, have you included the Z-axis mapping in your XF86-config-4? |
| 00:18.31 | saloxin | k-man: not really, but it's a hassle to set up. |
| 00:18.36 | saloxin | linfan: /dev/psaux |
| 00:18.43 | Eradan | For some reason my Numpad doesn't function in a terminal ... but does in Xcalc ... anyone ever had this problem and have a solution by chance ? |
| 00:18.45 | linfan | why??? I have a three button old fashioned serial mouse |
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| 00:18.55 | lii | k-man: ALSA isn't included in the mainline 2.4.x kernels; you can build a ALSA module package with the alsa-source package, though. |
| 00:19.09 | Neemz | how can I stop users viewing things outside their own home folders? |
| 00:19.10 | k-man | saloxin, so the easiest thing to do would be to upgrade to 2.6? |
| 00:19.12 | saloxin | linfan: serial? sorry. |
| 00:19.33 | k-man | lii, ill try that |
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| 00:19.42 | Graeme | linfan, sorry, when you said that your mouse was fuxx0red, and then 'no wheel' i figgured your wheel was fuxx0red. |
| 00:19.54 | saloxin | k-man: er, well, alsa-source-0.9 series did work for me. you also need alsa-utils, alsa-ersomething |
| 00:19.59 | blizunt | cafuego: kernel-image-2.6.5-1-k7? |
| 00:20.08 | k-man | saloxin, ok, thanks |
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| 00:20.25 | marsjays | when i try to start mozilla mail it complains about a missing file (/content/messenger.xul). anyone know what might cause this and how to fix it? |
| 00:20.27 | green-ears | JunK-Y: you said you could not apt-get wget is your apt soucre ok can you apt-get update |
| 00:20.44 | saloxin | linfan: cat /dev/ttyS0 and wiggle the ouse |
| 00:20.49 | saloxin | mouse |
| 00:20.52 | linfan | no /dev/psaux doesn't work |
| 00:21.02 | blizunt | should kernel-image-2.6.5-1-k7 support my scsi reiserfs and highmem=4? |
| 00:21.08 | blizunt | saloxin: thats serial isnt it? |
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| 00:21.29 | saloxin | blizunt: yup, which is what linfan has |
| 00:21.34 | lii | linfan: If desperate, try installing the 'mdetect' package; it'll do a reasonable job of auto-detecting serial and/or PS/2 mice .. |
| 00:21.49 | saloxin | linfan: if ttyS0 is silent, try S1 |
| 00:22.03 | Graeme | linfan, that's cuz yer mouse ain't a ps/2 if it's serial. |
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| 00:22.34 | lii | marsjays: Is the 'mozilla-mailnews' package installed? |
| 00:23.03 | blizunt | i dont want to repeat but does anyone know the answer to my question? |
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| 00:23.36 | marsjays | lii: yes |
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| 00:24.48 | lii | marsjays: Ok; is /usr/lib/mozilla/chrome/messenger.jar missing, for some reason? |
| 00:24.55 | saloxin | blizunt: what scsi vard is it? |
| 00:25.10 | cesar | hola |
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| 00:25.12 | blizunt | LSI Logic / Symbios Logic 53c825 |
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| 00:25.17 | linfan | ok, ttyS0 started x - now I just need to install the nvidia-kernel. Is it as complicated as a year ago? or can I go for the nvidia package from nvidia.com? |
| 00:25.25 | saloxin | blizunt: what module supports it? |
| 00:25.33 | blizunt | it was detected by 2.4.18-bf2.4 |
| 00:25.47 | saloxin | linfan: the nvidia packages in sid work well these days |
| 00:25.55 | blizunt | that came with my woody netinst disk |
| 00:26.04 | marsjays | lii: suddenly i'm not sure that there is a problem.. mozilla -news started, and that's the same program, or is it not? |
| 00:26.16 | cafuego | blizunt: I'll fetch the package and check; just a minute whilst it downloads. |
| 00:26.25 | linfan | but do I have to accomplish all that mambo-jambo hokus-pokus when putting it into the kernel? |
| 00:26.28 | marsjays | lii: the messenger.jar file is there |
| 00:26.34 | saloxin | blizunt: then debian kernels support it. wether it;s autodetected I don't know though. try it, and keep a fallback kernel |
| 00:26.39 | blizunt | cafuego: is there an easy way to tell? im on a fat connection |
| 00:26.49 | Graeme | netbrain, gswitchit |
| 00:26.51 | cafuego | blizunt: So am I, it's nearly done. |
| 00:26.54 | blizunt | :) |
| 00:27.01 | lii | marsjays: Yes, they're one and the same. I'm not sure why the mail client would be bombing, though. :-( |
| 00:27.16 | saloxin | linfan: nope. try it |
| 00:27.22 | saloxin | linfan: /msg dpkg nvidia |
| 00:27.39 | marsjays | lii: no, seems very strange. |
| 00:27.41 | lii | marsjays: Are you mixing mozilla and mozilla-mailnews packages of different versions, say? |
| 00:28.01 | cafuego | CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G=y |
| 00:28.06 | cafuego | blizunt: viola. |
| 00:28.07 | linfan | k thanx - BTW the mouse i frozen in the middle of gnome have to do a ctrl-alt backspace :-) |
| 00:28.19 | marsjays | lii: nope, everything's 1.6-7 |
| 00:28.29 | saloxin | linfan: try S1 instead :) |
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| 00:29.07 | lii | marsjays: Hm. I'm at 1.6-6 myself. I'll upgrade now and see if it explodes on my end. :) |
| 00:29.24 | marsjays | lii: hehe :) |
| 00:30.00 | blizunt | cafuego: look like it will work? |
| 00:30.20 | marsjays | is there som kmail->mozilla folder conversion tool available? |
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| 00:30.54 | linfan | saloxin: same thing with S1 |
| 00:31.16 | lii | marsjays: If kmail's stored your mail in mbox-style folders, you can just move them into your Mozilla profile directory .. |
| 00:31.24 | saloxin | linfan: urgh. does mdetect see anything? |
| 00:31.40 | Teakk | My kernel supports quotas, and i have installed all of the necessary packages, ran quotacheck -avugm and quotaon -avug, still when I do `quota', i get 'no quota for user jason (uid 1000)' |
| 00:31.41 | cafuego | blizunt: yep. |
| 00:31.51 | blizunt | cafuego: thanks. |
| 00:31.56 | cafuego | Teakk: edquota -u jason |
| 00:32.06 | marsjays | lii: ah, i'll try that, thanks |
| 00:32.07 | linfan | saloxin: haven't installed it yes, will now |
| 00:32.18 | blizunt | cafuego: will i need to keep anything special in mind switching from 2.4 to 2.6, apt already knows that i will need module-init-tools |
| 00:32.38 | cafuego | blizunt: No, that's pretty much it. |
| 00:32.39 | Neemz | Is there any way I can stop users viewing other users home directories? |
| 00:33.02 | linfan | how to use mdetect? |
| 00:33.11 | jbr | Neemz: don't create any? |
| 00:33.11 | blizunt | cafuego: so the process is: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.5-1-k7; configure lilo; init 6 |
| 00:33.13 | cafuego | Neemz: chmod o-rwx /home/* |
| 00:33.13 | Teakk | cafuego, is there a way to change the quota for ALL users at one time? (i have over 100) |
| 00:33.24 | cafuego | blizunt: yep. |
| 00:33.28 | saloxin | mdetect -x |
| 00:33.34 | blizunt | cafuego: have a very nice day |
| 00:33.39 | Neemz | cafuego: what does that command do? |
| 00:33.41 | blizunt | unless it breaks :P |
| 00:33.41 | cafuego | Teakk: Do one first, then you can use that user as template and copy their quota to the others, |
| 00:34.04 | linfan | ... and where is the output? |
| 00:34.24 | cafuego | blizunt: muaha-muHAHAHAH! |
| 00:34.24 | saloxin | linfan: stdout - in the terminal where you typed it |
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| 00:34.34 | jbr | Neemz: it's all in "man chmod", except the stuff that's in "info chmod" |
| 00:34.37 | Teakk | cafuego, there is no way to do it after they are aded? |
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| 00:34.50 | linfan | nothing happened |
| 00:34.55 | Grant_ | Hello, My PPPOE is using CHAP instead of PAP, how do i change this??? |
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| 00:35.08 | cafuego | Teakk: eh? |
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| 00:35.29 | blizunt | ftp.rutgers.edu is teh slow |
| 00:36.26 | cafuego | Teakk: for user in ($list); do edquota -p <first user> -u $user; done |
| 00:36.30 | saloxin | linfan: I have not used my serial port in aeons. modprobe generic_serial? wait, I'll check kernel sources |
| 00:36.43 | linfan | I installed kernel 2.6.5 and no mice in /dev/input - strange - but I get an error msg when reinstalling xserver-xfree86 |
| 00:36.58 | blizunt | cafuego: Fetched 17.7MB in 2m0s (147kB/s) :( |
| 00:37.06 | cafuego | Teakk: ($list) can be `cat list-of-usernames` |
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| 00:37.41 | Grant_ | Hello, My PPPOE is using CHAP instead of PAP, how do i change this??? |
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| 00:38.18 | cafuego | Grant_: Hello, with pppoeconfig/pppconfig or by editing the pppoe/ppp config file, of course |
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| 00:38.52 | Grant_ | pppoeconfig in sarge doesnt allow you to change that option |
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| 00:38.59 | Neemz | cafuego that worked great but now apache cannot look at my files |
| 00:39.11 | cafuego | Grant_: and make sure you have an /etc/ppp/pap-secrets file |
| 00:39.29 | cafuego | Neemz: chmod o+x /home/* |
| 00:39.30 | and | does someone know a link to som old debian mirrors, like potato? |
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| 00:39.50 | Grant_ | cafuego /etc/ppp/pap-secrets exist but how do i change it to use pap-secrets like in what file the peer's file? |
| 00:39.51 | cafuego | Grant_: vi $cfgfile it is, then. |
| 00:39.56 | Neemz | cafuego isn't that execute permission ? |
| 00:40.04 | phug | I think I have all the necessary libs, but glade still doesn't give me Python as a language option. Anybody know what I might be doing wrong? |
| 00:40.04 | Grant_ | which config file lol |
| 00:40.05 | saloxin | linfan: serial support should be compiled in for stock debian kernels :-0 I'm at a loss :-( |
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| 00:40.15 | Grant_ | cafuego which config file lol |
| 00:40.20 | cafuego | Neemz: yes, for a directory that means you can chdir into it. |
| 00:40.40 | cafuego | Grant_: cd /etc/ppp; grep -i chap * |
| 00:40.40 | saloxin | and: snapshots.debian.net |
| 00:40.41 | lii | Neemz: +x on a directory grants traversal rights; +r grants listing rights. |
| 00:40.48 | and | ta |
| 00:40.51 | Neemz | but the webuser cannot read my files to display them cafuego |
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| 00:41.08 | n00b | ok....HRLP! :) |
| 00:41.09 | jbr | Neemz: isn't that what you asked for? |
| 00:41.18 | n00b | HELP* |
| 00:41.23 | Neemz | I don't want other normal users to look in my home directory |
| 00:41.24 | saloxin | n00b: caps lock key broke again? |
| 00:41.33 | Grant_ | it's all commented out in the "Options" directory.. but i dont understand why its using CHAP |
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| 00:41.39 | Neemz | I want system services to still be able to use it though |
| 00:41.41 | n00b | nope...anyway.... |
| 00:41.48 | cafuego | Neemz: If your public_html is (at least) 711 and /home and /home/user are as well, it should be fine. |
| 00:41.58 | |XO| | i got a gmail account!!! |
| 00:42.04 | jbr | Neemz: apache should be the only one that's a problem |
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| 00:42.12 | n00b | i installed samba on knpx doesn't work? |
| 00:42.13 | Grant_ | hold on ill brb, see if this works |
| 00:42.13 | Grant_ | :S |
| 00:42.17 | tyler | How do I save a message read with the 'mail' command |
| 00:42.23 | beastmaster | hi |
| 00:42.33 | n00b | which version do i need... |
| 00:42.36 | cafuego | n00b: knpx? |
| 00:42.38 | Sykotic | argh |
| 00:42.40 | n00b | knoppix |
| 00:42.49 | jbr | Neemz: (you could do something messy with www-data group membership, but just use o+x) |
| 00:42.54 | cafuego | !tell n00b -about essentially debian |
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| 00:43.00 | cafuego | n00b: wrong channel. |
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| 00:44.00 | lii | marsjays: Hm. 1.6-7 seems to work for me. :) Perhaps you could try removing the mozilla-mailnews package and reinstalling it to have the postinst script re-register the mailnews component? |
| 00:44.01 | Neemz | Still doesn't work guys, everything is blocked from everyone except me and root |
| 00:44.12 | Grant_ | cafuego ok works now, Thanks mate :) |
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| 00:44.19 | n00b | by the way....i cannot ping my nix box or my doze box |
| 00:44.30 | sbetore | Anyone up for some trivia? I'm bored... #trivia |
| 00:44.38 | bahadunn | n00b: thats cuase its dozing |
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| 00:45.06 | lii | Neemz: You're trying to make ~ visible to no-one but yourself, and ~/public_html visible to the world (including the www-data user)? |
| 00:45.20 | n00b | do i need a connection there in order ro ping? |
| 00:45.25 | n00b | to* |
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| 00:45.41 | dogayonv | you can ping on a locl network, you dont need a internet connection to ping |
| 00:45.50 | marsjays | lii: nah, i'll just leave it, guess it's gonna fix itself sooner or later. either way i'm too lazy right now, and i've gotta get som sleep, starting work in about 5 hours |
| 00:45.50 | dogayonv | you can ping yourself by typing ping 127.0.0.1 |
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| 00:45.58 | Neemz | lii: I am trying to make everything under my home visible to no-one but myself and the apache user including public_html |
| 00:45.59 | lii | marsjays: 'night. :) |
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| 00:46.20 | n00b | not an inet connection...cause my doze box doesn't find the nix box... |
| 00:46.22 | marsjays | lii: thanks for helping me out anyways |
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| 00:46.24 | Neemz | lii: I have php files with passwords in you see which users could just look at |
| 00:46.31 | n00b | neither the other... |
| 00:46.39 | Neemz | lil: and I also have passwords in things like muh which anyone can see |
| 00:46.53 | dogayonv | I dont use samba or try to connect linux to windows, sorry can not help you n00b |
| 00:46.54 | Neemz | but the FTP server and WWW server cannot view my files now |
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| 00:47.30 | n00b | arrrrgh |
| 00:47.48 | lii | Neemz: Ok; you want ~ only visible to yourself, ~/public_html only visible to yourself and www-data? |
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| 00:48.06 | Neemz | yes lii ! |
| 00:48.11 | Neemz | + the ftp server :) |
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| 00:48.51 | peterS | Neemz: chmod 711 ~; chmod 750 public_html; chgrp www-data public_html |
| 00:48.54 | lii | Neemz: In that case, you might want to add yourself to the www-data group, apply mode 711 to ~, mode 750 to ~/public_html and make public_html owned by group www-data. |
| 00:49.13 | Neemz | :) |
| 00:49.15 | Neemz | ok i'll give it a try |
| 00:49.19 | lii | Eep, peterS beat me to it. :) |
| 00:49.23 | peterS | lii: oh, hello there (: |
| 00:49.37 | Neemz | Guys will I have to do -R to make it recursive? |
| 00:49.42 | peterS | lii: good thing we agree on the advice. I mean, we agree *exactly* |
| 00:50.02 | peterS | Neemz: should not really be needed |
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| 00:50.13 | peterS | Neemz: the default permissions on files inside public_html will be sufficient |
| 00:50.15 | lii | peterS: You've got the more concise version, though. :) /bin/sh grammar is funkier than English .. |
| 00:50.28 | peterS | Neemz: the fact that public_html is mode 750 should be enough access control |
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| 00:50.50 | linfan | the nvidia-kernel instructions are faulty - there is no pkg nvidia-kernel-src and there is no doc on nvidia-kernel-source after installation |
| 00:50.53 | peterS | lii: I didn't mention the part about putting yourself in the www-data group so you'd have permission to chgrp public_html, though |
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| 00:51.04 | lii | Neemz: The '0' in 750 denies traversal rights to everyone else, so they won't be able to reach any subdirectories of public_html .. |
| 00:52.08 | lii | peterS: Ah. :) |
| 00:52.21 | ^cactus | can someone help w/ aptitude/apt questions? |
| 00:52.36 | peterS | lii: of course, if you're root, rather than adding the user to www-data, you could just chgrp the public_html directory as root |
| 00:52.38 | blizunt | ask the question not whether you can ask |
| 00:52.43 | dondelelcaro | ^cactus: just ask your question. |
| 00:53.02 | linfan | I try to install it from nvidia.com |
| 00:53.09 | Neemz | lii and peterS can you help me once more, i tried lots of settings recursively and now i've messed up the permissions for all my files, whats the defauly chmod on files so I can set it back before doing as you said? |
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| 00:53.34 | peterS | Neemz: usually 644 on files, 755 on directories, is the default |
| 00:53.42 | lii | Neemz: Well, there aren't any 'default' permissions; you might want to make them owned by you, and mode 644 for files and 755 for directories, though .. |
| 00:54.17 | ^cactus | i've added new dists (unstable and non-us) to sources.list, now aptitude lists quite a lot of packages for upgrades. i think it wants to update stable versions to unstable versions. how do i prevent this? how do i tell it not to update the packages it's trying to update? |
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| 00:55.02 | LogicError | has anyone had any luck with C-Cube hardware dvd decoders in debian testing? im curious on which module to load, google isnt providing anything useful |
| 00:55.03 | lii | ^cactus: You want to stick with the stable distribution as a default source, but pull in unstable packages only as needed? |
| 00:55.13 | jbr | ^cactus: if you want to stay on stable, don't put unstable in sources.list |
| 00:55.34 | ^cactus | lii: yes, that's correct. in particular, the mozilla unstable package (1.6 vs. 1.0.0 in stable) |
| 00:55.45 | jbr | ^cactus: it's very unlikely to work |
| 00:56.01 | lii | ^cactus: In that case, have a look at the apt_preferences(5) manpage; there's a mechanism called 'pinning' which allows you to do this. |
| 00:56.24 | jbr | ^cactus: but you can try the unofficial versions recompled to work on stable, from eg backports.org |
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| 00:56.36 | joesbox | back |
| 00:56.46 | lii | ^cactus: You might want to be aware, though, that installing a single unstable package might bring in a whole cascade of dependent packages from unstable, too. :) |
| 00:57.53 | ^cactus | unrelated: how "unstable" is unstable, wouldn't really hazardous stuff be in experimental? |
| 00:58.00 | jbr | ^cactus: note apt-get's --simulate flag! |
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| 00:58.44 | Grant_ | Alight now i need to get back to work on my website :D |
| 00:58.46 | Neemz | I know -R changes both files and directories recursively but how will I change only directories recusrively? |
| 00:58.46 | linfan | I give up on Debian as I did a year ago - I'll reinstall my Arch Linux. Thank you all any way for help and good luck. |
| 00:58.58 | jbr | ^cactus: unstable can be broken; try "testing". But they won't mix with stable. |
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| 00:59.17 | ^cactus | how do users on the stable track update mozilla? 1.0.0 is ancient! |
| 00:59.20 | lii | linfan: Sorry to hear that; have fun with Ark Linux. :) |
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| 00:59.26 | brucey | why does GNOME mute my volume upon bootup if i'm using a 2.6 kernel with alsa?? |
| 00:59.38 | jbr | ^cactus: well, I use backports of f-f-firefox |
| 00:59.39 | lii | Neemz: o+X will ignore files and only apply +x to directories. |
| 01:00.00 | ^cactus | jbr: ok, good enough. i'll look at backports. |
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| 01:00.46 | Neemz | Lii I can't seem to do o+755 |
| 01:01.15 | lii | Neemz: How come? |
| 01:01.20 | jbr | Neemz: you're mixing numeric with symbolic |
| 01:01.33 | allister_ | hi, all. i am wondering if someone can recommend me how much space to use for my debian partitions (/home, /, swap, etc)? im thinking of using 60GB whole for linux. would, say, 30GB be good for '/' and 30GB for /home? (ill be doing just the usual desktop work, nothing fancy) |
| 01:01.41 | Neemz | jbr: whats the numeric equivalent of o then? |
| 01:01.52 | lii | Neemz: jbr's right. :) You can't mix them like that. |
| 01:02.00 | jbr | Neemz: it's the last numeral |
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| 01:02.14 | cafuego | allister_: 59Gb /, 1Gb swap |
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| 01:02.48 | ^cactus | a few more questions. :) we have am ati radeon 9200 card, for which i've installed the ati proprietary driver. i can't build the kernel dri module for 3d because it can't find the xfree86 drm include (looking in /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build/include/../drivers (... from here down isn't included in the kernel-headers package i installed). can someone tell me where to get the xf86 drm headers? |
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| 01:02.50 | tuzlo | does debian produce a distro yet that installs easily and autodetects hardware?? |
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| 01:02.57 | joecool | gentoo? |
| 01:03.25 | cafuego | tuzlo: Yes, it does. it's called 'Sarge' and it's currently in test pgase. |
| 01:03.26 | cafuego | joecool: gentoo is not debian. |
| 01:03.27 | Blissex | allister: use something like 12GB for '/', 1-2GB for swap, and the rest for '/home', if it is a typical desktop system. |
| 01:03.33 | joecool | oops.. this is debian.. nothings easy here |
| 01:03.37 | joecool | my bad |
| 01:03.42 | joesbox | sokay |
| 01:03.46 | tuzlo | cafuego: are there images floating around? |
| 01:03.52 | cafuego | joecool: Please go adn troll somewhere else. |
| 01:03.59 | joesbox | switch joecool and you will feel the power |
| 01:03.59 | Blissex | it is often fairly important to have '/' and '/home' on separate partitions so you can feel safer if you reinstall the distro. |
| 01:04.08 | lii | ^cactus: If you know the header filename, try asking the dpkg robot for a search. :) |
| 01:04.18 | cafuego | tuzlo: yeah, on cdiomage.debian.org - the latest is tc1 9test candidate 1) |
| 01:04.28 | joecool | i feel the extreme power, configurabilty, and stability of a source distro |
| 01:04.30 | cpbell | joecool: I beg to differ. 45 mins to a complete running system straddling testing/unstable |
| 01:04.31 | cafuego | joecool: pffft |
| 01:04.38 | saloxin | Blissex: 10G should be enough for /. some swap and the rest in /home |
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| 01:04.52 | cpbell | joecool: my friends who run gentoo could never have managed that. |
| 01:04.52 | joesbox | anyone know where i can get a list of controls for xchat? i mean like /msg and /leave and what not |
| 01:05.03 | tuzlo | cdioimage???? not a good link |
| 01:05.04 | joecool | cpbell: so what, i run reiser4 and gcc-3.4 with no issues |
| 01:05.11 | jbr | joecool: please go somewhere else to practice until you're some good at trolling |
| 01:05.15 | beastmaster | sup :-D |
| 01:05.25 | joecool | ah, my trolling partners are here |
| 01:05.29 | joesbox | sup beast |
| 01:05.31 | beastmaster | lol |
| 01:05.32 | joesbox | k |
| 01:05.43 | cpbell | joecool: good stuff. Why are you in #debian then? |
| 01:05.43 | cafuego | tuzlo: http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sarge_d-i/ |
| 01:05.51 | saloxin | joecool: http://funroll-loops.org/ |
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| 01:06.07 | beastmaster | old news, man |
| 01:06.08 | allister_ | ah, i see! i have always wondered where to install the main programs like gnome and the like, i always thought they go under /, which is why i always set it up as having more space then /home (when i used linux years ago) |
| 01:06.25 | joecool | i should troll #fedora.. debian is a good distro (even though i prefer gentoo) |
| 01:06.36 | cpbell | Has anyone ever used migrationtools? |
| 01:06.40 | cafuego | cpbell: The gentoo irc client defauls to #debian and he doesn't know how to change it. |
| 01:06.41 | guestish | joecool: im bored |
| 01:06.42 | beastmaster | never used debian before, so i dont know o.O |
| 01:07.00 | beastmaster | but right after i got here, ppl are unfriendly... :S |
| 01:07.00 | joecool | well i tried red hat 9 as my first experiance with linux |
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| 01:07.14 | joecool | and well.. i never wanted to use linux again, and i didn't for 2 years |
| 01:07.21 | cpbell | cafuego: hahaha. RTFM ... I'm sure it'll tell you. I'm glad to see gentoo users also don't read the manual |
| 01:07.24 | Marctraider | joecool, you LIE! |
| 01:07.29 | Marctraider | joecool, get lost here then |
| 01:07.30 | Marctraider | :) |
| 01:07.33 | cafuego | allister_: they generally go under /usr. I have a 5Gb / and a 3Gb /usr and neither are anywhere near full. |
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| 01:07.54 | Marctraider | Redhat sucks :) |
| 01:08.02 | Marctraider | come to #love-sources for real linux talk |
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| 01:08.04 | guestish | estoy aburrido |
| 01:08.07 | cpbell | anyone.... LDAP and migrationtools? I'm having issues migrating /etc/group |
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| 01:08.08 | beastmaster | so what's the latest version of bian now? |
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| 01:08.34 | blizunt | cafuego: appears to work after i found my nic module |
| 01:08.51 | joecool | i used fedora for awile.. a small improvement.. still sucked though |
| 01:08.54 | peterS | beastmaster: that would depend on what you consider a "version" of "bian" |
| 01:09.08 | guestish | joecool: if you are going to troll then go ahead =P |
| 01:09.15 | peterS | beastmaster: most people around here run unstable, which doesn't have a version number, and isn't technically a "version" |
| 01:09.22 | joecool | then i went to gentoo which i love, and tried debian on the side.. debian is good, just not my thing |
| 01:09.25 | Neemz | Hey all i've messed up my permissions so im going to revert to a backup, is there any way though I can list all files changed in the last 3 days? |
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| 01:09.35 | beastmaster | please enlighten me as i really have no idea of it |
| 01:09.36 | peterS | beastmaster: so technically, the latest is version 3.0, but most people here don't use that |
| 01:09.43 | joecool | flood? |
| 01:09.43 | jbr | Neemz: man find |
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| 01:09.55 | beastmaster | so what do u guys use now?:-D |
| 01:10.00 | joesbox | well i am really not able to follow. will talk later |
| 01:10.03 | joecool | mm yes flood.. my geforce fx 5700 ultra is soo good |
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| 01:10.09 | Neemz | jbr: I ask because if I do it wrong and overwrite things I will loose data |
| 01:10.15 | joecool | joesbox: your not my box? |
| 01:10.18 | peterS | beastmaster: I use unstable, as do many people here. others use testing, which will at some point become Debian 3.1 |
| 01:10.21 | allister_ | great, thanks guys! i wrote those down as notes |
| 01:10.32 | joecool | i killed my box! |
| 01:10.40 | peterS | joecool: you bastards! |
| 01:10.46 | beastmaster | lol |
| 01:10.51 | jbr | Neemz: "man find", look up -ctime -NUM |
| 01:11.16 | jbr | peterS: unless of course it becomes 4.0 |
| 01:11.44 | peterS | jbr: shrug. I've always assumed it would be 3.1, but I guess I don't remember aj saying one way or the other |
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| 01:12.16 | cpbell | LDAP for authentication? Anyone... have you had luck migrating using migrationtools? Know of any good sites that document the process? |
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| 01:15.46 | uzi | hey guys... should be a simple one, but for some reason eludes me... |
| 01:15.50 | uzi | I've got a ppc/linux board with a pci ohci usb controller in it |
| 01:16.00 | uzi | I've got a usb keyboard and mouse connected, and they work in X... but for some reason, I can't get the keyboard to talk at all when I switch to the console |
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| 01:16.39 | uzi | hey zophyx :) |
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| 01:17.07 | peterS | uzi: is this with kernel 2.4 or 2.6? |
| 01:17.12 | uzi | peterS: 2.4.26 |
| 01:17.17 | peterS | uzi: the input layer in general is much improved with kernel 2.6 |
| 01:17.25 | peterS | uzi: so you *might* have some luck with that |
| 01:17.43 | cpbell | uzi: hmmm.... do you have the kernel modules installed for USB kbds? |
| 01:17.47 | uzi | peterS: *nod*... it's a dev board with some board-specific I'd need to port to 2.6 first |
| 01:17.54 | peterS | cpbell: clearly he does, since his keyboard works in X |
| 01:17.54 | uzi | cpbell: built in |
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| 01:18.15 | uzi | I'm doing a monolithic kernel that's loaded via tftp |
| 01:18.30 | blizunt | what is sit0? something to do with my virtual interfaces? |
| 01:18.30 | uzi | and then it's just the ol' nfsroot |
| 01:18.34 | ding | I've got php4 and php4-mysql installed, but I'm still getting an "undefined function mysql_connect" error. Can someone point me in the right direction? |
| 01:18.36 | avu | Can I somehow modify the time it takes, until my CD-ROM gives up trying to read a deffect sector? |
| 01:18.48 | scarynetworkguy | uzi, I once had a usb mouse driver built into a kernel and gpm would not work and x would not unload right. dont know if ther is any connection but |
| 01:18.51 | peterS | avu: not easily |
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| 01:18.59 | peterS | avu: I don't think there's even a kernel parameter for that |
| 01:19.02 | req77 | hi, does modutils in sarge version support 2.6 kernels? |
| 01:19.03 | [TACO] | beh |
| 01:19.04 | cafuego | ding: make sure mysql.so is enabled in /etc/php4/apache/php.ini |
| 01:19.11 | uzi | req77: apt-get install module-init-tools |
| 01:19.12 | guestish | avu: trying to copy copywrited cds? |
| 01:19.14 | cafuego | ding: (at the bottom of that file) |
| 01:19.17 | avu | peters: What a pitty. |
| 01:19.21 | req77 | thanks :) |
| 01:19.22 | uzi | scarynetworkguy: yeah, trying it as modules in the next step |
| 01:19.33 | avu | guestish: No, trying to read an old broken CD of mine with dd_rescue. |
| 01:19.36 | guestish | ah |
| 01:19.51 | uzi | scarynetworkguy: it's a bit of a pain in the ass since the kernel goes in one place and the modules in another |
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| 01:19.57 | uzi | but doable, of course |
| 01:19.59 | cpbell | peterS: hmm, you do bring up a very obvious point. :-) My bad. |
| 01:20.00 | cafuego | avu: I find 'cdrdao' lumbers on quite well through scratches and assorted crap. |
| 01:20.01 | [TACO] | Anyone every experience the problem when installing lilo that it spams 01 accross the screen when booting. It was installed via MBR |
| 01:20.20 | cpbell | peterS: that's what happens when I work and answer questions at the same time. |
| 01:20.24 | avu | cafuego: I will give it a try, thanks. |
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| 01:20.34 | uzi | cpbell: it takes practice :) |
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| 01:20.46 | ding | cafuego, thanks, since there is nothing concerning mysql.so, I'm just going to look for the directive and add it in. Does that sound proper? |
| 01:20.59 | uzi | cpbell: this is a rare occasion for me to ask a question, but I figure I'm missing something simple |
| 01:21.08 | cafuego | ding: I'll paste it, just a sec. |
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| 01:21.36 | cafuego | ding: "extension=mysql.so" |
| 01:21.38 | uzi | req77: you're welcome... once that's installed, you should be good to go for both 2.4 and 2.6 |
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| 01:22.13 | ding | cafuego, pasting it now |
| 01:22.24 | req77 | thanks again :) uzi |
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| 01:22.44 | [TACO] | What do you do to fix the MBR if the lilo doesn't boot properly, spams 01 infinitly accross the screen |
| 01:22.47 | {STYLE} | #ASP |
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| 01:24.05 | joecool | i just wanna wreak havoc in #fedora.. wonder if i can get people from here and from #gentoo |
| 01:24.08 | h2k | [TACO], just run lilo as root? |
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| 01:24.39 | peterS | joecool: don't do that |
| 01:24.44 | ding | cafuego, you're a champ! The php site is working now, however, my other hmtl::mason site is now broken (apache-perl). There must be some time of conflict there. But thanks for your help! |
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| 01:24.55 | [TACO] | h2k: he cannot boot up at all, all he can do is rescue disk |
| 01:25.09 | mickeyks | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:25.13 | uzi | joecool: why would you want to do that? |
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| 01:25.24 | n00b | 1 question... |
| 01:25.26 | [TACO] | h2k: nvm |
| 01:25.26 | h2k | [TACO], yeah, run lilo using boot-up disk ;) |
| 01:25.50 | [TACO] | I may have to get him to do a fdisk /mbr |
| 01:25.51 | joecool | argh.. ok... |
| 01:25.52 | [TACO] | :/ |
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| 01:25.55 | n00b | if i have samba server....will the clients be able to check their shared files thru it? |
| 01:25.56 | avu | Am I just to dumb to read the manpage correctly or does cdrdao only operate on SCSI devices? |
| 01:26.25 | avu | (For reaing images) |
| 01:26.33 | scarynetworkguy | avu, your burner should emulate a SCSI device |
| 01:26.52 | avu | scarynetworkguy: I do not want to burn anything, I just want to read an image. |
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| 01:31.06 | guestish | [TACO]: thats happened to be before too |
| 01:31.08 | guestish | me* |
| 01:31.28 | guestish | [TACO]: i just did the fdisk thingy |
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| 01:31.38 | VChriZZ | re |
| 01:31.47 | VChriZZ | do a module for proftpd must be compiled in, or can it be outside too, and loaded through config file or whatever... ? |
| 01:32.12 | Blissex | avu: I think very recent versions of 'cdrdao' can also use direct ATAPI devices like under 2.6.x kernels. |
| 01:32.18 | Guerin | VChriZZ: what does an ftpd have to do with your kernel? |
| 01:32.34 | Guerin | VChriZZ: apt-get install proftpd will do it |
| 01:32.42 | VChriZZ | i didnt mean the kernel, i mean the ftpd itself |
| 01:32.47 | cpbell | Question for all: apt-get is saying: Bareword "previous_module" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at /var/lib/dpkg/info/console-data.config line 1045. |
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| 01:33.03 | VChriZZ | root@elenor:~# proftpd -l |
| 01:33.03 | VChriZZ | Compiled-in modules: |
| 01:33.03 | VChriZZ | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:33.03 | VChriZZ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:33.07 | cpbell | and then refusing to install console-data (and others) |
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| 01:33.10 | VChriZZ | sorry |
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| 01:33.14 | n00b | QUESTION : can files shared on a samba server from a win client be accessed by a 1. another win client 2. a linux client? |
| 01:33.27 | guestish | n00b: yes |
| 01:33.33 | Guerin | VChriZZ: ask in a proftpd channel, or read the doc |
| 01:33.35 | n00b | both? |
| 01:33.41 | guestish | ye |
| 01:33.41 | guestish | s |
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| 01:33.47 | n00b | NI |
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| 01:34.02 | n00b | ; |
| 01:34.03 | n00b | D |
| 01:34.05 | VChriZZ | Guerin: ive read the doc, cant find info... in #proftpd there noone answers :/ |
| 01:34.06 | \Igor\ | cpbell: bug #253252 and friends |
| 01:34.19 | \Igor\ | seems to be resolved |
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| 01:34.25 | guestish | use smbfs or samba client for linux and standard networking tools for windows |
| 01:35.03 | n00b | ah ok... |
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| 01:35.12 | Guerin | VChriZZ: well, try the mailing list, website, etc. IIRC proftpd config is modeled after apache, so I wouold expect modules to be independent |
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| 01:35.47 | VChriZZ | i see... ok, thx.. ill try some mailing |
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| 01:36.08 | bghfgfh | How do I keep my CPU temperature down? |
| 01:36.12 | cpbell | \Igor\: hmmm... I'll take a look at that. Thanks. |
| 01:36.48 | lynchman | under what device will a USB mouse appear? |
| 01:36.58 | \Igor\ | bghfgfh: being idle helps |
| 01:37.18 | \Igor\ | lynchman: /dev/input/mouse |
| 01:37.44 | lynchman | >\Igor\ Thanks! |
| 01:38.06 | peterS | lynchman: don't listen to him. /dev/input/mice |
| 01:38.24 | zinx | /dev/input/mouse0 |
| 01:38.28 | \Igor\ | close enough :-) |
| 01:38.37 | lynchman | well I'll try all three |
| 01:38.40 | zinx | hehe |
| 01:38.43 | zinx | just use /dev/input/mice |
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| 01:38.50 | lynchman | I was trying /dev/usb/mouse* before with no avail |
| 01:38.51 | zinx | it's the easiest to not screw up with :) |
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| 01:41.00 | allister_ | i have one more question before i throw myself into the process of installing. would anyone happen to have a a7n8x mobo and has their nvidia network "card" recognized and working? can it be found under the 'configure device drivers' menu for network? |
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| 01:41.26 | [TACO] | is it possible to get the terminal window during an install? |
| 01:41.42 | [TACO] | because rescue disk gives kernel panic since it cannot mount root fs |
| 01:41.50 | \Igor\ | [TACO]: Alt-F2 and press Enter |
| 01:42.05 | [TACO] | thanks |
| 01:42.11 | lynchman | >zinx eh, none worked. |
| 01:42.16 | dan2 | peterS: I have done some stupid things in my life...but this is probably the stupidest. I left my backpack in the jv football locker room at the high school. |
| 01:42.18 | dan2 | :( |
| 01:42.27 | peterS | dan2: no way |
| 01:42.34 | dan2 | peterS: yeah its pretty stupid |
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| 01:42.51 | Guerin | dan2: jv? |
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| 01:43.00 | dan2 | Guerin: Junior Varsity |
| 01:43.01 | peterS | Guerin: "junior varsity" |
| 01:43.04 | helix | aw |
| 01:43.08 | [TACO] | \Igor\: do you know how to do an fdisk /mbr under linux? |
| 01:43.16 | Guerin | dan2: still don't mean nothing to me |
| 01:43.16 | [TACO] | or the equivilent |
| 01:43.24 | dan2 | Guerin: oh well |
| 01:43.33 | \Igor\ | [TACO]: you don't, you install a boot manager such as lilo or grub, grub is recommended |
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| 01:43.35 | Guerin | i mean, I know what junior varsity is, I just don't get the significance :) |
| 01:43.49 | peterS | Guerin: I don't think the 'jv' part was the important part of the sentence |
| 01:43.53 | dan2 | peterS: now I gotta get a stupid ride to the high school, pick it up, then head back to my school |
| 01:43.56 | dan2 | sounds like a bitch |
| 01:44.12 | peterS | dan2: you'll survive. I give you at least an 85% prognosis |
| 01:44.21 | helix | haha |
| 01:44.23 | dan2 | !dict prognosis |
| 01:44.25 | dpkg | Dictionary 'prognosis' (2 shown): a prediction of the course of a disease ;; a prediction about how something (as the weather) will develop. |
| 01:44.36 | [TACO] | \Igor\: lilo caused this problem to begin with, it spams `01' accross the screen and becomes unbootable |
| 01:44.39 | peterS | dan2: basically, 85% chance that you'll live and recover from your illness |
| 01:44.39 | VChriZZ | !dict weed |
| 01:44.41 | dpkg | Dictionary 'weed' (1 shown; 24 total): Wise fathers . . . weeding from their children ill things. --Ascham.. |
| 01:44.42 | shadows | [TACO], "fdisk /mbr" installs the msdos bootloader. there's a project i forgot what it's called, that implements both the copyrighted msdos bootloader writing, and the free freedos bootloaders |
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| 01:44.59 | shadows | !dict stfu |
| 01:45.01 | dpkg | could not find definition for stfu |
| 01:45.07 | shadows | omg |
| 01:45.08 | shadows | lolz |
| 01:45.09 | \Igor\ | [TACO]: are you in linux at the moment? |
| 01:45.10 | shadows | rtfm |
| 01:45.12 | [TACO] | shadows: he did that, fdisk /mbr failed |
| 01:45.13 | VChriZZ | !dict wtf |
| 01:45.15 | dpkg | Dictionary 'wtf' 150 1 definitions retrieved 151 "wtf" foldoc "The Free On-line Dictionary of Computing (27 SEP 03)" WTF |
| 01:45.17 | [TACO] | it said cannot open /mbr |
| 01:45.27 | shadows | [TACO], duh |
| 01:45.32 | shadows | man fdisk |
| 01:45.33 | [TACO] | unable to open /mbr |
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| 01:45.36 | [TACO] | ok |
| 01:45.43 | shadows | when you read the manpage |
| 01:45.53 | shadows | you should be like, oh, that was obviou |
| 01:45.55 | shadows | s$ |
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| 01:47.35 | sanxiyn | Is libcurl(252442) still b0rked? |
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| 01:47.50 | sanxiyn | Someone should change topic. |
| 01:48.28 | peterS | sanxiyn: you need a new topic? /msg dpkg confuse me |
| 01:49.20 | peterS | good, it worked |
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| 01:52.22 | Randy | when I did apt-get kernel-source-2.4.10 it just ends like this 'Setting up kernel-source-2.4.10 (2.4.10-1) ...' |
| 01:52.51 | Sykotic | did you go to /usr/src and ls? |
| 01:53.08 | sanxiyn | dpkg -L kernel-source-2.4.10 |
| 01:53.09 | dpkg | ii kernel-source-2.4.10 1.6-13 ultra s3kr1t #debian package |
| 01:53.10 | Randy | no I didnt |
| 01:53.16 | Randy | oh him ? |
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| 01:53.27 | Sykotic | should be a dir named kernel-source-2.4.10 or something |
| 01:53.40 | Sykotic | Randy: cd /usr/src ls |
| 01:53.41 | nvs | Sykotic: It should only be a tar file |
| 01:53.53 | Sykotic | nvs: you're right heh |
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| 01:54.17 | Randy | Syk: I have some bz files in there |
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| 01:54.43 | nvs | Randy: kernel-source-2.4.10.tar.bz per chance? |
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| 01:55.15 | Rory | Anybody know what causes 'unstripped-binary-or-object' from linitan when analysing .deb's and any possible solutions? |
| 01:55.18 | Randy | nvs: yes |
| 01:55.40 | nvs | Randy: tar -xjvf kernel-source-2.4.10.tar.bz |
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| 01:56.02 | [TACO] | ... |
| 01:56.07 | beastmaster | w00t |
| 01:56.08 | Randy | nvs: done |
| 01:56.09 | beastmaster | what's up |
| 01:56.19 | LoneIguana | I'm new to debian, is it possible to run a stable distrobution but get certain packages from testing? |
| 01:56.22 | dan2 | peterS: I suspect this shouldn't be too bad, just hope the AD is there or my coach early in the morning. |
| 01:56.30 | nvs | Randy: Is there a /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.10 directory now? |
| 01:56.33 | beastmaster | i just installed debian.... |
| 01:56.40 | beastmaster | now what? |
| 01:56.44 | Randy | nvs: yes but its 2.2.22 that im working with :P |
| 01:56.45 | peterS | dan2: well .. have fun (: |
| 01:56.46 | sanxiyn | LoneIguana: yes |
| 01:56.50 | beastmaster | emerge woody ? |
| 01:56.55 | beastmaster | agp woody? |
| 01:57.01 | sanxiyn | beastmaster: ?? |
| 01:57.01 | abydos | erm. |
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| 01:57.07 | abydos | emerge woody? |
| 01:57.07 | Randy | nvs: it is extracted |
| 01:57.09 | abydos | You fucking fanboy. |
| 01:57.17 | nvs | Randy: You want to upgrade to 2.4.10 or stick with 2.2.22? |
| 01:57.22 | beastmaster | so what to do now? |
| 01:57.27 | opp | what is the lightest file manager for linux? |
| 01:57.27 | abydos | I do too, but it's not funny. |
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| 01:57.29 | beastmaster | i have it installed already |
| 01:57.34 | LoneIguana | sanxiyn: how? |
| 01:57.36 | dan2 | peterS: this isn't cool nor fun |
| 01:57.36 | sanxiyn | beastmaster: Use it! |
| 01:57.39 | abydos | opp: gentoo. |
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| 01:57.51 | Randy | nvs: I have 2.2.20 now.. I want to upgrade to 2.2.22.. 2.2.22 is what is extracted |
| 01:57.54 | dan2 | peterS: I emailed him, so hopefully this should go smoothly |
| 01:57.56 | thor-away | beastmaster: err....download some pr0n? |
| 01:58.01 | beastmaster | hot babe? |
| 01:58.05 | allister_ | would there happen to be a debian install that uses the 2.6 kernel during the install? im looking at a netinstall iso however it uses the 2.4 kernel |
| 01:58.09 | sanxiyn | beastmaster: Since it is installed, it is time to use it :-) |
| 01:58.10 | beastmaster | what's the package manager stuff? |
| 01:58.11 | abydos | opp: Note that you asked about file manager, and I told you a file manager. |
| 01:58.14 | Sykotic | with 2.4.26 |
| 01:58.18 | beastmaster | agp install ...??? help.. |
| 01:58.24 | nvs | Randy: Oh. Do you have a /usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.22 directory? |
| 01:58.27 | abydos | beastmaster: apt is the debian package manage.r |
| 01:58.31 | Randy | nvs: yes I do |
| 01:58.32 | opp | abydos, gentoo file mananger,huh? |
| 01:58.33 | sanxiyn | beastmaster: RTFM. |
| 01:58.43 | abydos | opp: No, Gentoo is a file manager. |
| 01:58.50 | dan2 | peterS: I guess Im gonna head to bed early |
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| 01:58.52 | beastmaster | it shows no such command RTFM |
| 01:58.53 | sanxiyn | beastmaster: Specifically, start with "APT HOWTO" manual: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ |
| 01:58.57 | opp | gentoo is a distro wha u mean |
| 01:58.58 | nvs | Randy: Then cp /usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.20/.config /usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.22 |
| 01:59.04 | abydos | opp: It's also a file manager. |
| 01:59.04 | beastmaster | ok thanks man, u save my life in debian |
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| 01:59.11 | abydos | opp: Check it out, it's pretty nice. |
| 01:59.28 | abydos | apt-get install gentoo will emerge a GTK2-based file manager. |
| 01:59.34 | beastmaster | it does? |
| 01:59.42 | Randy | nvs: cp: cannot stat `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.20/.config': No such file or directory |
| 01:59.42 | beastmaster | aw... cool bean |
| 01:59.47 | sanxiyn | beastmaster: ?? |
| 01:59.50 | beastmaster | now i can enjoy genbian |
| 02:00.02 | beastmaster | :S |
| 02:00.07 | sanxiyn | beastmaster: abydos is talking about a different program named "gentoo"... |
| 02:00.17 | nvs | Randy: Then cp /boot/config-2.2.20 /usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.22/.config |
| 02:00.20 | beastmaster | what about it? :S |
| 02:00.22 | abydos | sanxiyn: Correct. |
| 02:00.58 | Randy | nvs: cp: cannot stat `/boot/config-2.2.20': No such file or directory |
| 02:01.14 | sanxiyn | abydos: Wasn't gentoo something like mc...? |
| 02:01.16 | nvs | Randy: Try ls /boot/config-2.2.20* and copy that file |
| 02:01.18 | Randy | nvs: its /boot/config-2.2.20-idepci |
| 02:01.26 | abydos | sanxiyn: No, it's lighter. |
| 02:01.30 | abydos | sanxiyn: er. |
| 02:01.33 | abydos | did I say lighter. |
| 02:01.37 | abydos | shit. I didn't mean that. |
| 02:01.40 | sanxiyn | (mc = Midnight Commander, of course.) |
| 02:01.50 | abydos | Way different than mc. |
| 02:01.52 | beastmaster | gentoo is a distro o.O |
| 02:01.54 | jbr | beastmaster: http://packages.debian.org/gentoo |
| 02:01.58 | Randy | nvs: the copy is complete. |
| 02:02.02 | hurt | i am trying to restore a system from a 2nd hardrive with a full copy of the system under /home/blah/backu/p mounted as /mnt/hdb2 to a drive with a base install mounted as /mnt/hda2/ while booting from a knoppix disc. the backup is not compressed or packaged and is just sitting on the other drive. i have tried to copy over this again and again with no sucess. any help would be great |
| 02:02.10 | sanxiyn | beastmaster: <troll>Gentoo is for ricers.</troll> |
| 02:02.12 | abydos | beastmaster: you dumbshit, I've told you many times that gentoo is also a file manager. |
| 02:02.15 | nvs | Randy: cd /usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.22; make oldconfig |
| 02:02.19 | abydos | sanxiyn: Damn straight. |
| 02:02.42 | Rory | Anybody know what causes 'unstripped-binary-or-object' from linitan when analysing .deb's and any possible solutions to that? |
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| 02:02.58 | beastmaster | um.. |
| 02:03.02 | sanxiyn | For some amusements visit http://funroll-loops.org/ |
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| 02:03.16 | Rory | haha, that website is awesome. |
| 02:03.16 | abydos | For a good laugh visit http://www.gentoo.org |
| 02:03.35 | Randy | nvs: now I have many many options to work with |
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| 02:03.50 | nvs | Randy: Choose the right ones for your computer. |
| 02:03.53 | beastmaster | dont fall off the chair too hard |
| 02:03.56 | \Igor\ | hurt: cp -a <source>/* <dest> |
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| 02:04.25 | Sykotic | I want to go from a 2.4.26 kernel to a 0.0.1 kernel |
| 02:04.26 | Sykotic | lmao |
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| 02:04.33 | \Igor\ | Rory: unstripped means that one of your binaries has debug symbols |
| 02:04.34 | luciana | Hi! How can I discover with package provides libstdc++.so.2.8? |
| 02:04.54 | \Igor\ | Rory: either compile without -g or use strip |
| 02:04.54 | abydos | luciana: apt-get install glibc |
| 02:04.57 | sanxiyn | luciana: apt-file search libstdc++.so.2.8 |
| 02:05.08 | jbr | \bye |
| 02:05.08 | Rory | \Igor\: cheers mate :) |
| 02:05.10 | sanxiyn | Ah, abydos happened to know the exact package. |
| 02:05.13 | hurt | \Igor\ : will give it a go |
| 02:05.19 | luciana | sanxiyn: I haven't apt-file.. I will install it. |
| 02:05.28 | sanxiyn | apt-file is cool. |
| 02:05.33 | luciana | abydos Thank you |
| 02:05.41 | luciana | sanxiyn and you too.. kisses |
| 02:05.42 | abydos | luciana: yer welcome. |
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| 02:06.02 | beastmaster | my TA is a debian fanboy who told everyone should install it o.O |
| 02:06.16 | guestish | its worth it |
| 02:06.20 | beastmaster | o.O.O.o.O |
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| 02:06.40 | ac1d | hm |
| 02:06.42 | sanxiyn | beastmaster: This is #debian. What do you expect here? <wink> |
| 02:06.44 | \Igor\ | beastmaster: which class? |
| 02:06.47 | ac1d | im having a problem with fetchmail |
| 02:06.51 | beastmaster | csci o.O |
| 02:06.54 | digijohn | Anybody here use quake2 and "nocheats" |
| 02:06.56 | digijohn | ? |
| 02:06.59 | ac1d | in .fetchmailrc i set daemon to 600 but it still wont run |
| 02:07.08 | luciana | abydos: Apt said to me that, glibc has no installation canditate. Then I tried libc6 (but it already in my system) |
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| 02:07.34 | abydos | luciana: then you should have it already, but you might try reapting gcc |
| 02:07.35 | hurt | \Igor\ will i have to reinstall a bootloader or rerun lilo? |
| 02:07.37 | beastmaster | csci2021 at the U of M |
| 02:07.52 | the8088er | Hello. Can anyone explain something called Debian BTS or where to read info on it? |
| 02:08.02 | helix | !bts |
| 02:08.02 | dpkg | bts is probably the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or anyone running unstable who's unable to check the BTS should be shot on sight. apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. sid users, apt-get install apt-listbugs |
| 02:08.08 | gcbirzan | the8088er: bugs.debian.org |
| 02:08.17 | \Igor\ | hurt: yes, if you use lilo, make sure /etc/lilo.conf is ok and rerun lilo with that config file |
| 02:08.27 | the8088er | dpkg: Thanks :) |
| 02:08.27 | dpkg | the8088er: bitte |
| 02:08.30 | luciana | sanxiyn: apt-file returns nothing to me :-( |
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| 02:08.32 | sanxiyn | luciana: Try installing "libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2" |
| 02:08.43 | \Igor\ | beastmaster: ahh, these numbers speak volumes to me |
| 02:08.47 | sanxiyn | what a mouthful name. |
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| 02:09.08 | luciana | abydos: gcc is in my system.. version 3.3.3-2 (testing) |
| 02:09.22 | luciana | sanxiyn: I have installed this package already.. |
| 02:09.26 | sanxiyn | luciana: Are you installing some binary package packaged for Woody? |
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| 02:10.10 | luciana | sanxiyn no .. I trying to run uvscan |
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| 02:10.40 | LoneIguana | How do I install a testing package on a stable system? |
| 02:11.03 | sanxiyn | luciana: Oops... perhaps you need package from potato [!] |
| 02:11.16 | luciana | sanxiyn: which package? |
| 02:11.39 | sanxiyn | luciana: I found http://www.sng.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailscanner/serve/cache/172.html via Google... not sure. |
| 02:11.44 | sanxiyn | luciana: But sounds probable. |
| 02:11.47 | beastmaster | ops, im back, what numbers, Igor |
| 02:12.06 | sanxiyn | (Woody is getting old... Potato? Oops.) |
| 02:12.27 | luciana | sanxiyn I will read the docs. Thank you again.. |
| 02:12.45 | mickeyks | i accidentally ran fetchmailconf as root. but i can't find the .fetchmailrc that i must have created. where is it? |
| 02:12.55 | \Igor\ | beastmaster: i presume csci2021 is a course number, but it means nothing to those who are not at "U of M" |
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| 02:13.10 | sanxiyn | LoneIguana: Reading "APT Pinning for Beginners" is a good start. |
| 02:13.22 | beastmaster | eh :-D |
| 02:13.41 | sanxiyn | LoneIguana: Expect some trickiness... Mixing distribution is not the intended way to use Debian... |
| 02:13.42 | mickeyks | LoneIguana: getting a backport might be a good idea too |
| 02:13.45 | \Igor\ | mickeyks: /root/.fetchmailrc ? |
| 02:13.58 | sanxiyn | APT Pinning for Beginners: http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html |
| 02:13.59 | apt | sanxiyn: You are moron #4 |
| 02:14.08 | sanxiyn | apt: what |
| 02:14.10 | apt | sanxiyn: I give up, what is it? |
| 02:14.12 | beastmaster | too much rant and flame going on over that class' forum :-D |
| 02:14.12 | mickeyks | \Igor\: dagnabit, that is it |
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| 02:14.26 | mickeyks | \Igor\: i was looking in / |
| 02:14.26 | river | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:14.32 | beastmaster | and i had a heck of a semester lol woot |
| 02:14.34 | sanxiyn | beastmaster: Can I read class forum on the web |
| 02:14.41 | beastmaster | sure, 1 sec |
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| 02:15.04 | beastmaster | http://www-users.itlabs.umn.edu/classes/Spring-2004/csci2021/ |
| 02:15.16 | beastmaster | i had so much good laugh and heat things up there ;) |
| 02:15.18 | LoneIguana | sanxiyn: thanks. |
| 02:15.53 | Randy | nvs: i am done with all my yes/no questions |
| 02:15.53 | beastmaster | i'm one of the top ten optimization winner at the website ;) |
| 02:15.58 | joseffb | i cant get php pages to load |
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| 02:16.11 | river | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:16.11 | joseffb | i have apache and php4 installed |
| 02:16.14 | abydos | ahahah/ |
| 02:16.17 | nvs | Randy: make bzImage; make modules; make modules_install; make install |
| 02:16.27 | sanxiyn | joseffb: cd /usr/share/doc/php4 and read some docs. |
| 02:16.33 | sanxiyn | joseffb: This is FAQ. |
| 02:16.36 | abydos | My neighbor got a 140 dollar fine for calling us in for "septic tank running over" |
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| 02:16.43 | abydos | Which it isn't. |
| 02:16.51 | guestish | abydos: lol |
| 02:16.59 | guestish | river: what is pppo? |
| 02:17.01 | abydos | He got the fine for burning trash without a permit. |
| 02:17.09 | abydos | That shit stunk. |
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| 02:17.18 | guestish | you can burn trash/ |
| 02:17.27 | guestish | i thought it was always illegal due to air pollution |
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| 02:17.30 | abydos | Actually, the only "septic tank running over" around here is him and his 3 daughters. |
| 02:17.37 | abydos | You have to get a permit to do it. |
| 02:17.41 | river | PPPOE |
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| 02:17.57 | sanxiyn | pppoeconf |
| 02:17.59 | river | the app i should use to connect to adsl |
| 02:18.16 | abydos | PPPoE... One of the most wasteful protocols ever, short of netbeui |
| 02:18.16 | guestish | river: get a pppoe auth client |
| 02:18.23 | guestish | river: there are plenty |
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| 02:18.28 | luciana | sanxiyn: The potato directory doesn't exists in ftp.debian.org |
| 02:18.32 | luciana | where I found it? |
| 02:18.38 | river | but its on cd |
| 02:18.52 | river | its ok preinstalled im using knoppix cd |
| 02:18.55 | sanxiyn | luciana: Well, there must be an archive *somewhere*, but I have no idea. |
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| 02:19.06 | guestish | river: #knoppix for knoppix |
| 02:19.08 | sanxiyn | river: wrong channel |
| 02:19.09 | river | i did |
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| 02:19.17 | river | they referred me here |
| 02:19.20 | guestish | !tell river about knoppix |
| 02:19.22 | mickeyks | lol |
| 02:19.24 | guestish | river: what is the problem? |
| 02:19.48 | sanxiyn | river: pppoeconf should work... |
| 02:19.53 | chitiri | is slashdot rss free ? |
| 02:19.57 | guestish | chitiri: yes |
| 02:20.00 | guestish | chitiri: its at the bottom |
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