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| 00:00.16 | rdancer | Fire_: just try something that *should* work. then as lazarus says.. non-free is bad. |
| 00:00.26 | rdancer | Fire_: ..and mutt sux hard 8( |
| 00:00.49 | Fire_ | rdancer: Any other idea for a free email program which i can run in ashell then? |
| 00:00.51 | comex | why would it think that any ttyUSB is "no such device or address"? |
| 00:00.53 | lazarus | Fire_: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 00:01.02 | cafuego | spock_: 'write <username> \n message \n ^d' |
| 00:01.15 | rdancer | Fire_: /me uses mutt, but it sux. |
| 00:01.25 | cafuego | spock_: see also 'talk' and 'ytalk' |
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| 00:01.32 | lazarus | rdancer: why would you denigrate mutt? |
| 00:01.45 | lazarus | rdancer: unwilling to read documentation? |
| 00:02.10 | lazarus | !mutt |
| 00:02.10 | dpkg | it has been said that mutt is the official mailer of Debian GNU/Linux (http://www.mutt.org/) or better than pine or with message threading, built-in PGP support, and more config options than you can count, or check out http://www.mutt.org/links.html#config, or more Free than pine |
| 00:02.26 | Sunkne | where can i find sirc and how do i run it? :P (typed apt-get install sirc) |
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| 00:02.42 | lazarus | rdancer: why would you denigrate mutt? |
| 00:02.54 | kevin | is horizontal sync rate, the same as horizontal frequency? |
| 00:03.16 | lazarus | kevin: i seem to recall ppl using those terms interchangably |
| 00:03.21 | kevin | k |
| 00:03.44 | cafuego | kevin: if you're setting up X, use *simple* config. |
| 00:03.48 | rdancer | lazarus: not in flamewar mood, sorry. look in d-u & b.d.o archives, if you really liked my arguments. |
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| 00:04.10 | lazarus | Sunkne: Filename: pool/main/s/sirc/sirc_2.211-5_i386.deb |
| 00:04.18 | exobyte | How can I recreate a directory structure with symlinks? |
| 00:04.32 | lazarus | exobyte: man cp |
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| 00:04.54 | rdancer | exobyte: or tar. |
| 00:04.57 | sbetore | I'm having odd problems logging in. |
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| 00:04.57 | exobyte | lazarus: cp can do that? |
| 00:05.02 | lazarus | exobyte: man cp |
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| 00:05.22 | isga | hi |
| 00:05.24 | rdancer | exobyte: no, lazarus is kidding you of course.. |
| 00:05.26 | sbetore | It works, UNLESS I plug in the network card that I NEED! |
| 00:05.30 | rdancer | isga: low! |
| 00:05.53 | isga | rdancer: low? |
| 00:05.57 | sbetore | Oh well, that's where my attention span runs out for tonight |
| 00:06.01 | rdancer | isga: ;) |
| 00:06.02 | lazarus | rdancer: troll elsewhere |
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| 00:06.18 | rdancer | !slap lazarus |
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| 00:06.40 | lazarus | rdancer: take your violence elsewhere |
| 00:06.49 | isga | how do burn dvd 1:! ? |
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| 00:07.11 | rdancer | shit |
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| 00:07.21 | cafuego | !lart rdancer |
| 00:07.23 | Sunkne | Anyone willing to tell a good place to learn using debian from scratch? |
| 00:07.35 | lazarus | Sunkne: lynx /usr/share/doc/ |
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| 00:07.44 | cafuego | rdancer: Please show me your license that allows you to operate a computer on the internet. |
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| 00:08.10 | Sunkne | it says "lynx: command not found" |
| 00:08.12 | simonrvn | rdancer: GRRR |
| 00:08.22 | simonrvn | rdancer: GO THE FUCK AWAY |
| 00:08.36 | lazarus | Sunkne: apt-get install lynx |
| 00:08.37 | rdancer | the irssi should have security plombs.. |
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| 00:09.03 | simonrvn | rdancer: yeh, like telling you to fuck off in the REPLY |
| 00:09.05 | rdancer | simonrvn: why? |
| 00:09.29 | green-ears | Sunkne: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/debian/chapter/book/index.html http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=2016 |
| 00:09.51 | simonrvn | rdancer: i don't like adults that act stupidly, despite knowing better |
| 00:10.05 | exobyte | lazarus: anything specificly in cp? |
| 00:10.12 | cafuego | simonrvn: I am the exception that confirms that rule, right? |
| 00:10.21 | rdancer | simonrvn: well, it's rather irssi's bug then mine.. it's stupid |
| 00:10.31 | simonrvn | cafuego: heh |
| 00:10.32 | isga | is it the only way to rip a dvd via dvd::rip an burn? |
| 00:10.41 | lazarus | exobyte: -d same as --no-dereference --preserve=link |
| 00:10.48 | simonrvn | rdancer: i don't get your point |
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| 00:10.53 | rdancer | simonrvn: /ver |
| 00:10.58 | Sinistrad | isga, there is software called dvdbackup which works well enough. |
| 00:11.04 | simonrvn | rdancer: yes... i know what a /ver is.. |
| 00:11.09 | rdancer | simonrvn: with no ask-yes.. too bad. |
| 00:11.14 | h2k | i don't have mouse in svgalib :/ (playing quake2) |
| 00:11.22 | exobyte | lazarus: but I want a structure of ONLY symlinks to the originals |
| 00:11.35 | simonrvn | rdancer: i see |
| 00:11.45 | lazarus | exobyte: -l, --link |
| 00:11.47 | rdancer | simonrvn: /me really expected /ver to .. print the irssi version to me.. 8) |
| 00:11.50 | isga | Sinistrad: with normal dvds? |
| 00:11.53 | lazarus | exobyte: didn't you read the man page? |
| 00:12.13 | simonrvn | rdancer: i'll let you /ver me, without me bitching ;). |
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| 00:12.38 | rdancer | simonrvn: the behaviour all the other programs exhibit: version means program's version .. 8) |
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| 00:12.43 | lazarus | exobyte: third time, man cp |
| 00:12.51 | Sunkne | one last question for now.. The Lilo boot program, how do i change what OS that |
| 00:13.00 | Sunkne | is run by default |
| 00:13.04 | cafuego | rdancer: '/set ctcp_version_reply' will tell yuo. |
| 00:13.06 | lazarus | Sunkne: man lilo.conf |
| 00:13.12 | Sinistrad | isga, it uses libdvdread, so, if you have a version of libdvdread that will crack CSS keys and whatnot ... |
| 00:13.15 | cheale1 | Sunkne: man lilo.conf I think |
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| 00:13.39 | rdancer | cafuego: i meant, i really did want to know *this* irssi version .. |
| 00:13.48 | isga | Sinistrad: and howto burn ? any link? |
| 00:13.51 | cafuego | rdancer: dpkg -l irssi |
| 00:13.56 | Sinistrad | isga, there is no such libdvdread in debian, because debian tries to be unencumbered by that kind of legal issue. There are debs, somewhere, 'though. stfw or something ;) |
| 00:14.01 | rdancer | cafuego: of course.. 8) |
| 00:14.18 | isga | Sinistrad: i have it |
| 00:14.23 | Sinistrad | isga, there's a swell tutorial on dvd authoring at http://mightylegends.zapto.org/dvd/dvdauthor_howto.php |
| 00:14.28 | simonrvn | rdancer: hehehe ;) |
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| 00:14.42 | isga | Sinistrad: thanx |
| 00:14.47 | lazarus | looks like "daughter_howto" |
| 00:14.54 | Nanobot2k | quick question, i just got debian installed on the bare minimum and then i used apt-get to grab the gcc package but when i try to compile something i get this |
| 00:14.55 | Nanobot2k | checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) works... no |
| 00:15.11 | lazarus | Nanobot2k: apt-get install build-essential |
| 00:15.13 | Sinistrad | isga, some software, like polidori or something, can help with automating the burning process (once you have dvd-format mpegs ready to go) |
| 00:15.18 | Nanobot2k | thanks |
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| 00:15.52 | rdancer | simonrvn: and i just watched those 100s of lines running up the screen on VERSION REPLY.. could do nothing 8-O |
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| 00:16.07 | rdancer | s/on VERSION/with VERSION/ |
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| 00:17.20 | Sunkne | when i type in man lilo.conf, how do i edit it? |
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| 00:17.31 | lazarus | Sunkne: vim /etc/lilo.conf |
| 00:17.31 | Huey | is there a way to make find work with filenames that have spaces? |
| 00:17.53 | Sinistrad | Huey, find -print0 |
| 00:18.31 | Sinistrad | Huey, usually you would pipe that to xargs -0 |
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| 00:19.17 | Huey | Sinistrad: what's the advantage of using xargs over the -exec flag? |
| 00:19.18 | rdancer | some ppl say it's a good idea anytime you work with untrusted filenames |
| 00:19.44 | rdancer | Huey: flexibility |
| 00:20.22 | Huey | rdancer: how is it more flexible? |
| 00:20.26 | tzafrir | Huey: you can run a single command. Much faster |
| 00:20.26 | rdancer | Huey: quote the {}: "{}" |
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| 00:20.59 | h2k | what is usb mouse in /dev/ ? |
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| 00:21.14 | Huey | tzafrir: wait, isn't the 'find -exec foo {} \;' only one command, while piping its output to xargs to commands? |
| 00:21.17 | Huey | or do you mean something else? |
| 00:21.18 | rdancer | Huey: sometimes it is just more convenient |
| 00:21.34 | tzafrir | actually you can do without -print0 |
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| 00:21.48 | Huey | is there some case where it is much better to use xargs? i'm just wondering what its purpose is |
| 00:21.50 | rdancer | Huey: the other way out. |
| 00:22.08 | rdancer | Huey: find ... is exec() for every filename |
| 00:22.11 | tzafrir | Huey: This is true if you intend to find a small number of files |
| 00:22.33 | tzafrir | But if you find some 100 files, the overhead for a separate command can be huge. |
| 00:22.37 | Sunkne | how do i save in vim? |
| 00:22.38 | tzafrir | It depends on the command |
| 00:22.44 | rdancer | simonrvn: :w |
| 00:22.50 | tzafrir | Sunkne: :w |
| 00:22.52 | lazarus | Sunkne: ESC :w |
| 00:22.54 | rdancer | s/simonrvn/Sunkne/ |
| 00:22.58 | rdancer | Sunkne: ZZ |
| 00:23.01 | Sunkne | thx |
| 00:23.08 | Sunkne | :P |
| 00:23.16 | lazarus | Sunkne: ESC :wq to quit after |
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| 00:23.28 | rdancer | a pool in a disguise 8) |
| 00:23.32 | cafuego | ESC :x |
| 00:23.36 | rdancer | s/pool/poll/ |
| 00:23.41 | Davka | My sound hardware is weird. The boot message from the driver says that it didn't load, and to force loading, I should use the module parameter force_load = 1. Where do I put that module parameter |
| 00:23.44 | Huey | ah |
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| 00:24.00 | Huey | so if i'm moving 10000 files at the same time, it'd be better to use xargs than find -exec ? |
| 00:24.02 | rdancer | Davka: /etc/modules? |
| 00:24.06 | tzafrir | Davka: in the modprobe command |
| 00:24.23 | tzafrir | or in the insmod command: insmod module param=value |
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| 00:24.30 | Davka | tzafrir: Which file do I put that in? |
| 00:24.41 | rdancer | Davka: ^^ |
| 00:24.42 | Dan_ | heh |
| 00:24.44 | cafuego | Huey: No, coz with xargs your shell will probably choke on too many params. |
| 00:24.50 | tzafrir | you can also put in in /etc/modules.conf |
| 00:24.54 | Davka | rdancer: ok |
| 00:25.06 | cafuego | Huey: Besides, the overhead caused by 'mv' is negligable. |
| 00:25.07 | mentor | grouping it groups of about 50 would be good. |
| 00:25.40 | tzafrir | cafuego: only if the command-line is >= ~127,000 chars |
| 00:25.41 | rdancer | Davka: or better as tzafrir says. |
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| 00:26.01 | tzafrir | The option '-l' can be a workaround for such a case: xargs -l100 |
| 00:26.07 | cafuego | tzafrir: On 10,000 files in various soubdirs, that's easy. |
| 00:26.21 | thomas_adam | Anyone know how I can update files stored in a .tar.bz2 file with newer or changed ones? I tried tar -juf ./file.tar.bz but it complains about cannot update compressed file. Must I decompress it first and then re-bzip2 it? |
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| 00:26.35 | rdancer | thomas_adam: you can't, afaik |
| 00:26.42 | tzafrir | thomas_adam: uncompress the archive first |
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| 00:26.46 | thomas_adam | rdancer: ta |
| 00:27.10 | rdancer | !wtf ta |
| 00:27.10 | dpkg | rdancer, :) |
| 00:27.26 | rdancer | hmm |
| 00:27.28 | crazydemon | ok, so I got the mouse working, but its very sluggish, theres almost a half-second delay on it. THis only applies to the mouse though, all aplications run super fast. Has this happened to anyone? |
| 00:27.33 | adughep | hi i have a problem i burn the debians cd ..but different |
| 00:27.41 | mdaly | gmail is spamming me with invites |
| 00:27.49 | mdaly | anyone want one? |
| 00:28.00 | rdancer | crazydemon: /etc/init.d/gpm restart |
| 00:28.15 | adughep | i open the iso image with daemon tols and after that i copy all the stuff into my directory burner |
| 00:28.50 | adughep | if this would damage to the debian cd that i make or i must do them again? |
| 00:28.59 | crazydemon | rdancer: dont have gpm |
| 00:29.11 | Sunkne | arf sorry.. but how to edit in vim? :S |
| 00:29.24 | adughep | vi file |
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| 00:29.33 | cafuego | Sunkne: Why are you using vim if you don't know how it works? |
| 00:29.36 | lazarus | Sunkne: prese insert, as many times as you prefer |
| 00:29.39 | rdancer | crazydemon: then restart whatever you have, and try to trace why it is choking.. with top(1) or similar? |
| 00:29.53 | tzafrir | Sunkne: Esc :h tutor |
| 00:30.06 | crazydemon | rdaner: i have restarted kdm a few times, but I dont think its choking. maybe a mouse refresh rate is set incorecly or something |
| 00:30.20 | rdancer | crazydemon: Sunkne -> :help vimtutor? |
| 00:30.22 | Sunkne | cafuego : only one way to learn ;) and have used it before in mandrake, but its 3-4 months ago.. |
| 00:30.26 | rdancer | oh |
| 00:30.32 | rdancer | s/crazydemon: // |
| 00:30.46 | tzafrir | X server logs go to /var/log/kdm , right? |
| 00:30.51 | Sunkne | :P already did that didnt help :P but thx lazarus your tip worked :P |
| 00:30.54 | rdancer | Sunkne: #vim ? |
| 00:30.54 | cafuego | tzafrir: no |
| 00:30.59 | cafuego | tzafrir: /var/log/Xfree* |
| 00:31.15 | Dan_ | hey cafuego |
| 00:31.19 | lazarus | Sunkne: np |
| 00:31.29 | Dan_ | <--- dan2 |
| 00:31.35 | Sunkne | :P lol there is a channel for every single program here :S |
| 00:31.40 | cafuego | allknowing, remember? |
| 00:31.42 | Dan_ | cafuego: :) |
| 00:31.49 | rdancer | Sunkne: vim is a huuuuuge prog.. |
| 00:31.56 | Dan_ | cafuego: I thought you were the devil |
| 00:31.57 | Dan_ | :) |
| 00:32.06 | Dan_ | heh |
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| 00:32.13 | cafuego | Dan_: That doesn't preclude being all-knowing |
| 00:32.18 | Dan_ | brb |
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| 00:32.33 | adughep | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:32.47 | cafuego | adughep: It won't be bootable. |
| 00:33.01 | adughep | for the first one but for the oders |
| 00:33.10 | adughep | becuase i made all the 8 cds |
| 00:33.12 | cafuego | the others are bootable too |
| 00:33.21 | adughep | haaa |
| 00:33.21 | rdancer | adughep: why would you do this? |
| 00:33.39 | cafuego | well, were bootable. |
| 00:33.44 | adughep | becuase on slackware i did this and was ok so i tried here to:P |
| 00:34.02 | cafuego | why not just burn the iso directly? |
| 00:34.05 | adughep | damn that all my cd are broken |
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| 00:34.28 | rdancer | adughep: doing things you don't fully understand is not a good ide.. |
| 00:34.31 | adughep | i forget how to do it |
| 00:34.48 | cafuego | that's the worst excuse in the world |
| 00:34.52 | rdancer | *idea |
| 00:34.53 | cafuego | adughep: google still knows |
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| 00:35.00 | adughep | k so all are broken i must write it all agian or ican save some of them? |
| 00:35.11 | adughep | know i know too:)) |
| 00:35.14 | cafuego | they will all work OK, you just can't boot them. |
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| 00:35.20 | adughep | because i saw there were unbootable |
| 00:35.22 | Stryker | i used apt-get with update & upgrade and now i have dep problems b/c my list is out dated |
| 00:35.30 | cafuego | so either reburn ISO #1 or use the floppy images. |
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| 00:35.47 | adughep | so if i make the first cd right the thers wont matter |
| 00:35.54 | rdancer | adughep: reburn them all, trash the old ones, and be happy. |
| 00:35.57 | adughep | k thanks alot |
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| 00:36.17 | rdancer | adughep: and remember to md5sum them after burning. |
| 00:36.24 | adughep | no i dont have the pthers iso that wpuld be to mauc time |
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| 00:36.32 | cafuego | adughep: Well, unless you're installing say a scsi box and need CD #4 to boot. |
| 00:36.33 | Dan_ | cafuego: back |
| 00:36.34 | adughep | k:) |
| 00:36.47 | adughep | i dont have a scsi box |
| 00:36.52 | lazarus | Stryker: 'dselect update' |
| 00:36.56 | cafuego | adughep: Even easier is to simply get the netinst ISO (100Mb) and use that, with a nice network connection. |
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| 00:37.25 | adughep | i have a bad network connections:( 4 kb/s |
| 00:37.43 | cafuego | Yet you have 8 ISOs? How did you get them, then? |
| 00:37.55 | adughep | i think better is to download the first iso again and burn it right |
| 00:38.00 | Dan_ | gaim has funky colors for irc |
| 00:38.03 | adughep | in 1 week |
| 00:38.05 | adughep | :) |
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| 00:38.20 | Stryker | lazarus thanks |
| 00:38.24 | cafuego | adughep: No, use the netinst iso and don't bother with the rest. That way you end up only downloading what you *need* |
| 00:38.25 | lazarus | Stryker: np |
| 00:38.27 | rdancer | adughep: in fact, you could just get the bootdiskettes then |
| 00:38.29 | Dan_ | :-D |
| 00:38.45 | rdancer | adughep: that's what you need. |
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| 00:38.49 | adughep | i have them |
| 00:38.54 | rdancer | adughep: and they are on the cd, images. |
| 00:38.56 | adughep | the bootdisketes |
| 00:38.59 | cafuego | rdancer: They're on the cds too. |
| 00:39.07 | adughep | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:39.13 | cafuego | adughep: Boot from bf24 floppy image, then insert the cd when asked. |
| 00:39.15 | rdancer | cafuego: exactly. |
| 00:40.09 | rdancer | adughep: and you can even make a bootable CD with the files on the first CD, with a moderate effort. |
| 00:40.12 | adughep | k i made the iamges1.44 root.bin and rescue.bin so i better go for images1/44/bf24? |
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| 00:40.41 | adughep | hwo rdancer? |
| 00:41.01 | rdancer | adughep: don't know ;) man mkisofs probably 8) |
| 00:41.09 | adughep | do the iso again:P |
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| 00:41.35 | kevin | hello, Im trying to troubleshoot why my X screen is so big, Ive entered all the info in my xfc86config file exactly to the right specs, but it defaults to some bare minimum resolution where my virtaul screen is all big, in my X log file it keeps saying "(II) RADEON(0): Not using default mode "640x350" (hsync out of range) |
| 00:41.39 | kevin | etc. |
| 00:42.08 | adughep | :)k i think i will stick to floopies so i beteer put 1mges1.44/bf24 root and rescue k? |
| 00:42.11 | Dan_ | kevin: load the radeonfb kernel module and retry |
| 00:42.21 | rdancer | adughep: i'd go for 2.4; the 2.4 is more mature now then when woody turned frozen |
| 00:42.42 | rdancer | adughep: and iirc, you can't have ext3 with 2.2 |
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| 00:43.13 | adughep | k |
| 00:43.35 | adughep | thanks |
| 00:43.40 | rdancer | adughep: and maybe the driver disks, too, some of them. |
| 00:44.01 | rdancer | adughep: good luck 8) |
| 00:44.22 | adughep | :) it would be very very easy:) in no time |
| 00:44.35 | adughep | :)) |
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| 00:44.41 | rdancer | adughep: famous last words ;) |
| 00:45.16 | Dan_ | rdancer: 2.2 is rock solid |
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| 00:46.08 | rdancer | Dan_: probably; doesn't support my hardware. |
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| 00:46.26 | rdancer | Dan_: 2.0 is even more solid. |
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| 00:46.35 | Dan_ | rdancer: it won't work with your glibc |
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| 00:47.09 | Dan_ | rdancer: 2.2 is rocksolid because AC maintained it. AKPM is no where near the quality of AC |
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| 00:47.31 | icarus | I can only launch firefox as root |
| 00:47.34 | icarus | is there a way to fix that? |
| 00:47.37 | Dan_ | rdancer: Linus is the worst kernel maintainer we have ever had |
| 00:47.39 | Dan_ | :) |
| 00:47.49 | rdancer | Dan_: ah. 8) |
| 00:48.01 | rdancer | !wtf akpm |
| 00:48.08 | Dan_ | rdancer: marcelo wasn't that bad |
| 00:48.36 | Dan_ | !lart akpm |
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| 00:49.54 | Dan_ | ~nickometer Dan_ |
| 00:49.54 | apt | 'Dan_' is 0.000% lame, dan_ |
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| 00:49.58 | Dan_ | :) |
| 00:50.07 | rdancer | Dan_: what is the reason make allyesconfig would not even compile? |
| 00:50.12 | rdancer | ~nickometer rdancer |
| 00:50.12 | apt | 'rdancer' is 0.000% lame, rdancer |
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| 00:50.30 | Dan_ | rdancer: its another idiot idea from Linus |
| 00:50.32 | Stryker_ | ~nickometer Stryker_ |
| 00:50.32 | apt | 'Stryker_' is 0.000% lame, stryker_ |
| 00:50.33 | g4lt | Dan_ please don't tell me you starteed a nickometer round... |
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| 00:50.42 | Justin | rdancer: for the same reason that apt-get install * doesn't work |
| 00:50.44 | Dan_ | g4lt: hah |
| 00:50.46 | rdancer | ~nickometer g4lt |
| 00:50.46 | apt | 'g4lt' is 22.000% lame, rdancer |
| 00:50.56 | Stryker_ | haha |
| 00:50.57 | g4lt | !alicekill rdancer |
| 00:51.01 | rdancer | wow |
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| 00:51.26 | Dan_ | !lart g4lt |
| 00:51.30 | g4lt | just a bit of Arlo Guthrie for y'all ;P |
| 00:51.31 | Stryker_ | !alicekill g4lt |
| 00:51.31 | rdancer | !fuck g4lt |
| 00:51.39 | rdancer | g4lt: that helps;) |
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| 00:51.51 | rdancer | sometimes. |
| 00:52.27 | IceDC571 | faw, hey man you there? |
| 00:52.42 | ASM | opa |
| 00:52.48 | faw | IceDC571, yep! |
| 00:53.24 | rdancer | ~nickometer beta3 |
| 00:53.24 | apt | 'beta3' is 22.000% lame, rdancer |
| 00:53.28 | rdancer | Dan_: better;) |
| 00:53.32 | IceDC571 | faw, sweet.. so can I ask you to walk me through on how to install the official ati drivers? PM me :) |
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| 00:54.07 | nodus | any one actualy get the nvidia drivers to work with a custom 2.6 |
| 00:54.33 | cafuego | nodus: yes, it's not hard. |
| 00:54.35 | faw | dpkg, calm down! :o) breathe... |
| 00:54.36 | dpkg | faw: I don't know, could you explain it? |
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| 00:55.03 | faw | IceDC571, sure. |
| 00:55.04 | faw | :) |
| 00:55.06 | nodus | i ran it and it ocmpiled and i already had a x config from 2.4 and it died |
| 00:55.19 | rdancer | why would rootstrap print ifconfig's help/bad usage message just after the * arp line? |
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| 00:55.24 | cafuego | Well, you shouldn't use a 2.4 .config on 2.6 kernels. |
| 00:55.34 | nodus | no the XCONFIG |
| 00:55.39 | nodus | not ,config |
| 00:55.47 | cafuego | !slap nodus |
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| 00:55.59 | jaxxan | hey ya'll |
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| 00:56.06 | cafuego | XF86COnfig-4 file, you mean? |
| 00:56.10 | nodus | yes |
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| 00:56.11 | rdancer | !slap cafuego |
| 00:56.16 | cafuego | Well, say that, then. |
| 00:56.26 | rdancer | cafuego: he said that clearly |
| 00:56.27 | nodus | im just too lazy to type the whole damn thing |
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| 00:56.32 | faw | IceDC571, first of all you need your kernel compiled with AGP modular and DRI/DRM builtin |
| 00:56.36 | nodus | im on the zuarus |
| 00:56.44 | cafuego | rdancer: No, x config + kernel == kernel config |
| 00:56.44 | nodus | there for typing with thumbs |
| 00:57.03 | cafuego | rdancer: X config is different. |
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| 00:57.20 | archimage | Why choose Debian? |
| 00:57.27 | nodus | cafuego is a damn ass |
| 00:57.28 | Stryker_ | b/c its the best |
| 00:57.30 | cafuego | archimage: Dunno, we don't. |
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| 00:57.37 | nodus | because apt get |
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| 00:57.41 | lazarus | archimage: dfsg |
| 00:57.42 | cafuego | nodus: And you're now without help, oh well. |
| 00:57.45 | nodus | thats prety much it |
| 00:57.50 | rdancer | cafuego: x config == XF86Config |
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| 00:57.59 | reaper[] | anyone know if its possible to change the dialog box you get in firefox on "host not found" to an error page like IE does |
| 00:58.01 | cafuego | rdancer: No, that's "X config" |
| 00:58.01 | lazarus | dpkg: tell archimage about dfsg |
| 00:58.11 | Stryker_ | yeah apt-get is the neatests lil thing if you keep your sources up to date |
| 00:58.16 | nodus | well its not like you were so go bariy your head in your ass |
| 00:58.26 | rdancer | cafuego: heh, i got it You Didn't ;) |
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| 00:58.27 | cafuego | reaper[]: Edit the source code, dumb it down. |
| 00:58.41 | cafuego | rdancer: You say that as if it's a good thing. |
| 00:58.45 | cafuego | poor bastard |
| 00:58.45 | localuser | how the heck can I change my screen size in X or mode rather while in X ? |
| 00:58.56 | localuser | this screen resolution is killing me |
| 00:59.00 | nodus | ctrl + |
| 00:59.05 | nodus | or ctrl - |
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| 00:59.10 | archimage | I am on my second install with it. I have used alot of other distros. Thi |
| 00:59.14 | rdancer | cafuego: not *poor* ! |
| 00:59.24 | archimage | I am messing with Mythtv |
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| 00:59.29 | cafuego | zignig: help |
| 00:59.36 | rdancer | localuser: ctrl + <keypad +> |
| 00:59.40 | nodus | archimage are you useing sarge or woody |
| 00:59.54 | rdancer | localuser: numeric keypad, i mean. |
| 00:59.56 | zignig | cafuego: what ? |
| 01:00.03 | cafuego | zignig: they're making my brain hurt |
| 01:00.04 | archimage | Is sarge the unstabe version |
| 01:00.07 | Stryker_ | links is the best web browser out there |
| 01:00.10 | cafuego | archimage: No. |
| 01:00.22 | lazarus | Stryker_: lynx |
| 01:00.28 | g4lt | !unstable |
| 01:00.28 | dpkg | rumour has it, unstable is the status of a Debian release when packages can be added to the system at any time that might disrupt the integrity of the whole system! Ask me about <break>. not supported here, in general. It's also newspeak for not stable If you have to ask whether you should use unstable, you shouldn't. See testing. |
| 01:00.32 | nodus | archimage sarge is testing its 1/2 between unstable and stable |
| 01:00.45 | carrett | hey, i'm using grip, and for some reason these tracks i've just ripped play back silent...any clue why? the cd plays no problem. |
| 01:00.47 | archimage | I have a woody version. I am doing a base install now with kernel 2.4.26-1-386 |
| 01:00.50 | Stryker_ | no links |
| 01:00.56 | g4lt | okay, houston, we have a nut loose in dpkg |
| 01:01.10 | g4lt | !unstable is also see sid |
| 01:01.10 | dpkg | okay, g4lt |
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| 01:02.02 | rockyoyster | hi |
| 01:02.04 | localuser | rdancer that seems to only work for like what app I'm in .. like it just changed mozilla's resolution but not the windmanagers :/ |
| 01:02.23 | jaxxan | how would i go about mounting a iso? |
| 01:02.34 | rockyoyster | I'm having trouble with XDM. When it is run, the screen flickers a few times, and drops to the login prompt. |
| 01:02.34 | Stryker_ | mount |
| 01:02.46 | localuser | rdancer windowmanager rather |
| 01:02.55 | lazarus | jaxxan: man mount |
| 01:03.00 | rockyoyster | I'm also unable to run startx. It exits with 'No screen found. |
| 01:03.02 | nodus | so does anyone know of a good reason why the nvdia kernel driver for X(just to keep asswipe quiet) would fail to insert into 2.6 when custom compiled |
| 01:03.14 | rockyoyster | Where do I start to trouble shoot that ? |
| 01:03.14 | nodus | (and yes modules are one |
| 01:03.25 | nodus | *on |
| 01:03.32 | rdancer | localuser: it did change the screen resolution no matter what you think you are seeing. look again. |
| 01:03.38 | archimage | mount -t iso9660 -o ro,loop=/dev/loop0 <file.iso> /directory/to/mount/to |
| 01:03.47 | localuser | haha ok rdancer thanks bbiaf perhaps |
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| 01:04.59 | localuser | randancer I guess it changes to whatever modes I have in my "modes" line ? |
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| 01:05.29 | rdancer | localuser: man X |
| 01:05.40 | rdancer | localuser: iterates among them. |
| 01:05.53 | mwilson | nodus: And how does it fail? |
| 01:06.01 | rdancer | localuser: or those not found invalid, rather. |
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| 01:06.35 | skel | anyone here use gpg? |
| 01:06.56 | jaxxan_ | i see, i have to compile loopback compiled first |
| 01:06.57 | skel | I'm having trouble with the -r for recipient |
| 01:07.01 | mentor | ~tell skel about polls |
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| 01:07.38 | cafuego | rockyoyster: /var/log/XFree86.0.log |
| 01:07.38 | lazarus | skel: /msg dpkg polls |
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| 01:08.12 | gcbirzan | Am I the only one that finds the BTS incredibly slow? |
| 01:08.28 | cafuego | you're probably the only one that uses it |
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| 01:09.47 | skel | mentor / lazarus: nm.. I figured it out without you worthless snobs.. keep up the uselessness.. |
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| 01:09.57 | gcbirzan | Another happy customer. |
| 01:10.18 | mwilson | Snobs? Another one who thinks he's owed something? |
| 01:10.19 | mentor | If he figured it out so quick...then why did he need to ask? |
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| 01:10.56 | lazarus | mentor: he figured we'd read the man page to him, and then did it himself when we seemed to clueful to do so |
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| 01:11.13 | lazarus | s/to c/too c/ |
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| 01:11.27 | kevin | hey all, can anyone suggest a relatively painless way to install alsa on debian (unstable) |
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| 01:11.46 | lazarus | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:11.52 | lazarus | a much better poll, ,heh |
| 01:12.15 | lazarus | (sid users alerady saw it) |
| 01:12.22 | The_Vulture | kevin: I just installed alsa-source, followed the instructions to build the modules for my 2.6.6-k7 debian kernel.. |
| 01:12.28 | The_Vulture | worked fine, |
| 01:12.33 | The_Vulture | I think.. |
| 01:12.41 | mentor | MD5 checksums should be generated when the package is built... |
| 01:13.07 | lazarus | mentor: yeah, but that's a (rfc-speak) SHOULD not a MUST |
| 01:13.32 | gcbirzan | I think it should be a MUSt. |
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| 01:13.44 | gcbirzan | Don't see any harm coming out of it... |
| 01:13.45 | g4lt | but it must be a should |
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| 01:13.46 | kevin | The_Vulture : I tried doing that for my older 2.8.18 kernel, but it bitches about not being able to find /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h, did you run into that? |
| 01:13.53 | jshriver | Anyone know if japanese is supported in Postscript? |
| 01:13.55 | \Igor\ | The_Vulture: how does alsa-source help? 2.6.x has alsa in the trunk |
| 01:13.55 | lazarus | gcbirzan: i agree, but it's a stable+1 or stable+2 release goal i guess |
| 01:14.01 | mentor | lazarus: SHOULD means unless there is a really good reason not to... |
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| 01:14.36 | The_Vulture | \Igor\: good question, I seem to recall it doing me some good at the time (apart from the theraputic benefits of compiling random stuff) |
| 01:14.40 | \Igor\ | kevin: install linux-headers-<version>, and i'm not sure 2.8.18 is so old :-) probably hasn't been born yet |
| 01:14.42 | mentor | locally changed files...(compiled python ?) are one good reason. |
| 01:14.48 | g4lt | BTW, the reasons that md5sums of packages aren't included now is a bug in md5sum IIRC |
| 01:14.52 | jshriver | or tex? |
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| 01:14.58 | lazarus | mentor: i'm telling debsums 2.0.7 to do so |
| 01:15.03 | The_Vulture | \Igor\: alsa-base depends on alsa-modules, perhaps it was just to filfill deps.. dunno |
| 01:15.06 | mwilson | jshriver: "supported" how? |
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| 01:15.19 | mentor | g4lt: Some packages have md5sums files. |
| 01:15.29 | jshriver | mwilson: as in can I write in japanese have it saved in a ps or tex file? ultimately .ps |
| 01:15.29 | The_Vulture | no, it conflicts, misread.. *keeps poking* |
| 01:15.56 | \Igor\ | kevin: btw, alsa-modules seems to be precompiled for 2.4.25 |
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| 01:16.22 | carrett | hey, i'm using grip, and for some reason these tracks i've just ripped play back silent...any clue why? the cd plays no problem....and other cds i've ripped (with no config changes other than the directory of the output file) are fine... |
| 01:16.25 | LSorensen | jshriver: apt-cache show cjk-latex, apt-cache show lyx-cjk |
| 01:16.26 | VChriZZ | hum, is it possible to enable ctrl-alt-del at kernel-panik? ive got a remote-kvm to my server, and i dont want that my server is offline just because i cant resart it :/ |
| 01:16.36 | g4lt | mentor possibly, but md5sum has a bug that makes it output differently depending on wheter ther input is from commandline or a pipe |
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| 01:16.38 | jshriver | LSorensen: thanks let me check it out :) |
| 01:16.40 | The_Vulture | nope, looks like I don't have alsa-modules at all, perhaps I had it to build when I had a 2.4 kernel.. |
| 01:16.46 | LSorensen | VChriZZ: I don't think you can no. |
| 01:16.47 | The_Vulture | just got alsa-base and alsa-utils installed |
| 01:16.53 | localuser | Blah, ctrl + <keypad> + ... ctrl + <keypad> - .. totally ignores my modes line in XF86Config .. blah wtf ? I know the modes I put in are valid .. instead it just cycles between two basic banal manichen dualistic extremes ? |
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| 01:17.22 | mwilson | jshriver: You can't write postscript in Japanese, no. You can write Japanese and render it in Postscript, yes. |
| 01:17.24 | Wyzard | g4lt: That "bug" is probably the presence or absence of a trailing newline |
| 01:17.27 | \Igor\ | The_Vulture: hmm, I don't have either of those... but I've got OSS emulation for the alsa driver, that's probably why |
| 01:17.37 | Wyzard | g4lt: "echo foo | md5sum" vs. "echo -n foo | md5sum" |
| 01:17.43 | jshriver | mwilson: my goal is to save some HTML data that has japanese and archive it in ps |
| 01:17.50 | mentor | g4lt: subtle or obvious? it wfm? |
| 01:17.56 | jshriver | figured I'd do some kind of wget, then whatever to convert it to .ps.. |
| 01:18.13 | mwilson | Why wouldn't you just save the HTML? |
| 01:18.32 | \Igor\ | jshriver: if you view it with mozilla and print to a file, that should work |
| 01:18.38 | LSorensen | VChriZZ: a hardware watchdog to fire a reset is more likely |
| 01:19.07 | jshriver | Igor: hrm I can try, but wanting to automate it.. so was hoping to just write a bash script with whatever tools, and stick them in a cron job. |
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| 01:19.35 | g4lt | mentor it's subtle, it adds a character. so basically, until md5sum outputs the same in both cases, I doubt it's going to be a requirement |
| 01:19.37 | LSorensen | jshriver: anything to do with latex can be automated. that is really it's point |
| 01:19.43 | mwilson | jshriver: What's the reason for wanting to save it in a different PDL than it was authored in? |
| 01:19.46 | VChriZZ | LSorensen: http://www.peppercon.de/laraeco0.html |
| 01:19.47 | mentor | I have a server that has a front panel input to fire the NMI, which is kinda cool. |
| 01:19.51 | rdancer | VChriZZ: panic=<seconds reboot timeout> at the kernel commandline |
| 01:20.05 | mentor | g4lt: it being md5sum? |
| 01:20.43 | rdancer | VChriZZ: or /proc/sys/kernel/panic |
| 01:20.47 | \Igor\ | jshriver: yeah, it's hard to automate with mozilla... you're kinda stuck for alternatives because you need something that can understand and render japanese fonts |
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| 01:20.58 | g4lt | jah |
| 01:20.58 | jshriver | mwilson: I like postscript.. |
| 01:21.03 | \Igor\ | jshriver: latex is one alternative, very automatable... |
| 01:21.08 | VChriZZ | rdancer: ah, and the seconds i specify, it waits after kernel panik, and then reboots? |
| 01:21.13 | jshriver | I like tex.. plus tex2ps, etc tex2pdf |
| 01:21.19 | \Igor\ | jshriver: but you somehow need to go from html to tex |
| 01:21.22 | rdancer | VITIHO: exactly |
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| 01:21.34 | sauron | yo |
| 01:21.34 | rdancer | s/ VITIHO / VChriZZ / |
| 01:21.37 | mentor | g4lt: Hum...I take it the bug is not always fired? |
| 01:21.43 | \Igor\ | jshriver: by tex2ps, do you mean tex -> dvips? |
| 01:21.44 | VChriZZ | kk :) cool thx |
| 01:21.58 | rdancer | VChriZZ: provided the kernel can reboot on it's own... |
| 01:22.05 | sauron | who is the bot ? I need to ask him something about the "mmap run out of room" bug of apt-get |
| 01:22.06 | rdancer | *its |
| 01:22.21 | mentor | sauron: dpkg/apt |
| 01:22.24 | cafuego | !dynamic mmap |
| 01:22.24 | dpkg | methinks dynamic mmap is "Dynamic MMap ran out of room" when using apt-get, put the following line into your /etc/apt/apt.conf: 'APT::Cache-Limit 12582912;' . if you still get the same error, increase the value. if that file doesn't exist add it, or put it in a file in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ |
| 01:22.25 | jshriver | Igor: yikes yeah, sorry latex file.tex dvips file.tex -o file.ps or however it is |
| 01:22.55 | VChriZZ | rdancer: what should i into the kernel, so that he can reboot by himself? |
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| 01:22.58 | Spark | anyone think of a linux prog (prefer gtk over qt) for putting events into a calendar |
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| 01:23.06 | Spark | you know, like a traditional diary type thing |
| 01:23.06 | g4lt | mentor I really have no idea, but it's a TC issue, so I doubt that any new official requirement of md5summing is going to occur until it's solved |
| 01:23.13 | cafuego | VChriZZ: The 2.6 kernels have a software watchdog |
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| 01:23.30 | nevyn | Spark: evolution |
| 01:23.46 | mentor | ~tc |
| 01:23.47 | apt | i guess tc is the Debian Test Cycle Trafic Control, a program for defining QoS rules in 2.4 (backported?), or in iproute package. |
| 01:23.48 | mwilson | Wow... talk about overkill. |
| 01:23.52 | zoid | is there a way to insert a carriage return after every semicolon in a file? |
| 01:24.05 | mwilson | Spark: A calendaring application or a diary? |
| 01:24.07 | Spark | zoid: sed might do that for you |
| 01:24.14 | mentor | zoid: yes. using sed/perl or vim. |
| 01:24.21 | zoid | Spark: kewl |
| 01:24.23 | lazarus | wow, look at that |
| 01:24.26 | zoid | mentor: how is that done in vim? |
| 01:24.35 | Spark | mwilson: i'm not sure, i just want to plan out the next few months and see what days are weekends, etc |
| 01:24.37 | lazarus | google reactivated dejanews.com |
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| 01:24.42 | mentor | zoid: Using the replace command? :s/// |
| 01:24.44 | rdancer | VChriZZ: it can, normally. but it can go south and be unable to reboot. e.g. badly written hardware drivers. |
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| 01:24.57 | zoid | mentor: but what would i put for a carriage return? |
| 01:25.03 | lazarus | Spark: /usr/bin/cal |
| 01:25.10 | zoid | :%s/;/<what> |
| 01:25.11 | Spark | cal is most readonly, isnt it? :) |
| 01:25.12 | \Igor\ | Spark: try xcal |
| 01:25.29 | lazarus | Spark: /usr/bin/calendar |
| 01:25.31 | zoid | Spark: are you looking for a todo list kind of app? |
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| 01:25.38 | lazarus | rooooooooooooot |
| 01:25.45 | mwilson | Spark: http://www.jamiehillman.co.uk/ccal |
| 01:25.51 | simonrvn | @tell NdR -about root |
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| 01:25.59 | n00b | hi.... |
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| 01:26.08 | n00b | why is ftp2.debian.org down? |
| 01:26.12 | Spark | cool cheers everyone i'll check those out :) |
| 01:26.18 | n00b | why is ftp2.de.debian.org down? |
| 01:26.20 | lazarus | n00b: to annoy you |
| 01:26.35 | n00b | :/ |
| 01:26.37 | rdancer | Spark: /me prefers ``for a in `seq 100`; do date -d +1\ days ; done | lpr'' ;) |
| 01:26.41 | gcbirzan | lazarus: And so that he has a reason to annoy us. |
| 01:26.44 | n00b | i can't update |
| 01:26.46 | VChriZZ | cafuego: hum, im using 2.4 kernel ... 2.6. doesnt run on my machine ... http://www.onetrix.net/phpsysinfo/ |
| 01:26.52 | lazarus | n00b: man apt-spy |
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| 01:26.57 | LSorensen | n00b: you are allowed to change your sources.list to another mirror |
| 01:27.03 | vali | n00b, change your sources.list |
| 01:27.11 | nuge | n00b, your in canada and you use de.debian.org ? |
| 01:27.15 | nuge | s/your/you're |
| 01:27.23 | n00b | um ok do you have ca.debian.org? |
| 01:27.30 | VChriZZ | rdancer: ok, so i dont have to add any specific options to the kernel at compiling? |
| 01:27.45 | LSorensen | VChriZZ: which debian version? |
| 01:27.47 | crazydemon | ALright, yours trully has managed to get the mouse working |
| 01:27.51 | LSorensen | n00b: of course |
| 01:27.52 | \Igor\ | n00b: give debian.yorku.ca a shot |
| 01:28.05 | mentor | ~beer crazydemon |
| 01:28.09 | n00b | where is the souces.list? |
| 01:28.11 | nuge | noob, http://www.debian.org/mirror/list |
| 01:28.12 | localuser | rdancer I swear dude .. I'm not joking ctrl + <keyboard> -/+ only works well for mozilla and practically nothing else including the window manager itself |
| 01:28.15 | rdancer | VChriZZ: nope |
| 01:28.15 | LSorensen | n00b: /etc/apt/ |
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| 01:28.23 | lazarus | n00b: rtfm, man sources.list |
| 01:28.26 | cafuego | n00b: apt-setup |
| 01:28.27 | n00b | ok thanks! |
| 01:28.28 | \Igor\ | n00b: deb http://debian.yorku.ca/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free |
| 01:28.35 | rdancer | localuser: which wm? |
| 01:28.37 | VChriZZ | LSorensen: 3.0_r2 |
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| 01:28.52 | LSorensen | VChriZZ: running 2.6 kernels on woody is not recomended. It wasn't meant for it |
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| 01:29.00 | LSorensen | VChriZZ: and often doesn't work. |
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| 01:29.06 | localuser | rdnancer I've tried it in both wmaker and ratpoison .. I'm really sorry to bother you and I don't mean to troll but this resolution is killing me ;/ |
| 01:29.11 | crazydemon | one question - I always run my monitor at 100Hz, but if I try to set the VertRefresh to 100 in the XF86config file, X11 refuses to start |
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| 01:29.23 | cafuego | VChriZZ: Hmm, SMP benefits a LOT from 2.6 |
| 01:29.25 | rockyoyster | what does it mean when it says, screens found, but none with usable configuration When I run startx... |
| 01:29.26 | rockyoyster | PLease? |
| 01:29.27 | VChriZZ | LSorensen: hum... ive got 2.6 running on 4 machines.... standard desktop systems |
| 01:29.33 | VChriZZ | but on my server it doesnt want to :/ |
| 01:29.33 | drwarner | I'm getting a lot of 404s on http.us.debian.org -- is this a known problem? |
| 01:29.37 | LSorensen | VChriZZ: are they running woody? |
| 01:29.42 | VChriZZ | ya |
| 01:29.46 | VChriZZ | 3.0_r2 |
| 01:29.56 | LSorensen | VChriZZ: you certainly need some other backports to make it possible. It can't be done on stock woody. |
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| 01:30.14 | VChriZZ | cafuego: hum... but 2.6.3 and 2.6.4 are rebooting every 15-30min if i install them onto my server |
| 01:30.37 | sanmarcos | hmm is it bad that my VCore is at +1.60V, and my -5V is at -6.20V ? |
| 01:30.45 | crazydemon | what would I have to edit to allow me to run with a higher refresh rate? |
| 01:30.53 | LSorensen | VChriZZ: odd. I have 2.6.6 running on a p4HT machine and an athlon xp at work (although both using testing). No problems. Using the debian kernel builds. |
| 01:30.54 | cafuego | VChriZZ: That sounds like a hardware problem; 2.6.3 is rock solid here. |
| 01:30.56 | sanmarcos | crazydemon: xconfig |
| 01:31.01 | cafuego | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:31.03 | mwilson | sanmarcos: Who says they are? |
| 01:31.07 | drwarner | sanmarcos unless you've verified it with a voltmeter, I wouldn't worry too much. |
| 01:31.10 | LSorensen | sanmarcos: according to what? |
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