| 00:00.23 | lii | IdNotWindows: It's entirely possible to do quick-and-dirty packaging just for personal use. |
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| 00:00.38 | kevin | lii: i can telnet the colobox |
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| 00:00.48 | kevin | but i cant telnet from the colobox to my home place |
| 00:00.51 | kevin | on port 5000 |
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| 00:01.13 | IdNotWindows | lii: hmmm your right, I interpreted that he should package and upload himself of sth like that... my mistake |
| 00:01.55 | mickeyks | helix, lii: do you have a favorite mutt doc (besides man mutt) |
| 00:02.03 | lii | kevin: What's your vtun tunnel type? ppp? TUN? |
| 00:02.11 | helix | mickeyks: the mutt manual |
| 00:02.32 | kevin | tun |
| 00:03.05 | kingsley | Has anyone here noticed that "apt-get install <package>" is hanging while trying to retrieve bug reports, and if so, do you happen to know what to do about it? |
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| 00:03.53 | sbetore | I've got a rather nasty problem with my laptop |
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| 00:04.44 | sbetore | If my NIC (PCMCIA) is in (Any nic, wireless or wiremess), init slows to a crawl. |
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| 00:05.12 | lii | kevin: Hmm .. maybe you could paste your tunnel definition to #flood .. |
| 00:05.24 | un4gotten | is it possible to install more packages at one command |
| 00:05.25 | JoshTriplett | sbetore: Could be a timeout problem. |
| 00:05.26 | un4gotten | i mean: |
| 00:05.29 | sbetore | If I power it up without the NIC, it quickly inits up, I get the login prompt. |
| 00:05.39 | un4gotten | apt-get install p1 p2? |
| 00:05.42 | JoshTriplett | un4gotten: apt-get install a b c d e |
| 00:05.46 | JoshTriplett | un4gotten: Yes. |
| 00:05.46 | un4gotten | ok |
| 00:05.46 | sbetore | I then logon as root, and ifup eth0 |
| 00:06.10 | sbetore | and after a while, I can't log in. |
| 00:06.14 | sbetore | It just freezes. |
| 00:06.16 | mickeyks | why does the "huge" xterm setting make text look what seems to me an only slightly larger than normal size? |
| 00:06.23 | JoshTriplett | un4gotten: You can even do "apt-get install a b c -d -e" and it will install a, b, and c, and remove d and e. |
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| 00:06.41 | sbetore | JoshTriplett: Cool, didn't know that |
| 00:06.44 | lii | JoshTriplett: Or invert it with "apt-get remove a b c +d +e" to install d e whilst removing everything else. |
| 00:06.44 | sbetore | BUT! If I do killall5, it starts working again! |
| 00:06.53 | un4gotten | ok |
| 00:06.54 | JoshTriplett | mickeyks: No idea. If you want a huge font, try neep-alt-24 from xfonts-jmk |
| 00:07.01 | sbetore | What could be causing this?? |
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| 00:07.22 | dondelelcaro | sbetore: killall5? |
| 00:07.38 | JoshTriplett | dondelelcaro: Same as killall, just a different implementation. |
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| 00:07.44 | sbetore | dondelelcaro: It's a command on my system |
| 00:07.47 | mickeyks | JoshTriplett: i just wonder if somehow my whole X is off a bit in terms of font sizing |
| 00:07.55 | dondelelcaro | sbetore: yeah, but that'll kill off everything. |
| 00:07.58 | sbetore | dondelelcaro: Literally kills all. |
| 00:07.58 | kingsley | apt-get is hanging, at least for me, while retrieving bug reports. |
| 00:08.00 | JoshTriplett | mickeyks: Well, /msg dpkg dpi . |
| 00:08.04 | lii | sbetore: What does top say when your machine starts slowing down? Is dhclient at 99% CPU usage then? |
| 00:08.23 | dondelelcaro | sbetore: I'd almost bet that you've got something that rather rapidly eats 100% available memory. |
| 00:08.34 | JoshTriplett | mickeyks: (Although that doesn't really help bitmap fonts, much.) |
| 00:08.44 | sbetore | dondelelcaro: lii: I don't think so... |
| 00:08.47 | dondelelcaro | sbetore: then you get swapbound, and everything slows to a craw. |
| 00:08.55 | kingsley | Is apt-get install working for anyone else here? |
| 00:09.01 | dondelelcaro | sbetore: well, because killing off everything unfreezes the machine, that's the most likely suspect. |
| 00:09.01 | JoshTriplett | kingsley: So apt-listbugs is hanging? |
| 00:09.07 | kevin | lii: aroud? |
| 00:09.09 | kevin | around? |
| 00:09.15 | sbetore | I seem to remember checking my top... |
| 00:09.25 | dondelelcaro | sbetore: get the output of /proc/meminfo and ps axfu right before you killall5 |
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| 00:10.19 | sbetore | dondelelcaro: For one, my disk doesn't thrash, and I've got 256 meg swap... |
| 00:10.45 | mickeyks | JoshTriplett: well, i don't know the difference |
| 00:11.01 | kingsley | JoshTriplett: apt-listbugs isn't hanging. |
| 00:11.04 | cafuego | For a vnc session, I ONLY need to have port 5901/tcp open, correct? |
| 00:11.32 | lii | kevin: Sorry -- I can't figure this out short of assembling a similar vtun setup here. :-/ It does look fine, though .. |
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| 00:11.52 | kevin | well ok |
| 00:11.57 | kevin | my bed is calling |
| 00:11.59 | kingsley | apt-get just timed out and dumped diagnostics. |
| 00:12.10 | kevin | tomorrow i'am gone strugle further |
| 00:12.12 | kingsley | /usr/lib/ruby/1.6/net/protocol.rb:343:in `new': getaddrinfo: Temporary failure in name resolution (SocketError) |
| 00:12.13 | JoshTriplett | mickeyks: If you have your dpi set appropriately, all your fonts should be the correct size. Try "xdpyinfo | grep dots". |
| 00:12.19 | kevin | thnx for your help anyway lii |
| 00:12.26 | kingsley | from /usr/sbin/apt-listbugs:750:in `join' |
| 00:12.28 | sysice_ | Hi, i've got a linksys wireless-g pcmcia card - when i plug it in to my notebook debian recognizes it and prints "PCI : Enabling device" now how do i configure it to work on the network? |
| 00:12.34 | JoshTriplett | mickeyks: The defaults of 75 or 100 are rarely exactly correct. |
| 00:12.36 | thomas_adam | kingsley: That's not apt, that's apt-listbugs. |
| 00:12.45 | JoshTriplett | sysice_: You need to set it up in /etc/network/interfaces. |
| 00:12.55 | sysice_ | Yeah, i got that far, i just dont know what to put there |
| 00:13.14 | JoshTriplett | sysice_: First, do you have a static network, or do you use DHCP? |
| 00:13.19 | kingsley | thomas_adam: Evidently apt-get calls apt-listbugs, which works when called alone. |
| 00:13.27 | sbetore | I believe I have found the error |
| 00:13.30 | sysice_ | to be safe i will go with static |
| 00:13.33 | sysice_ | i havent tested dhcp yet |
| 00:13.36 | JoshTriplett | sysice_: Also, which interface is your wireless card? |
| 00:13.36 | mickeyks | JoshTriplett: 100x100 dots per inch |
| 00:13.36 | thomas_adam | kingsley: Indeed. See /etc/apt/apt.conf |
| 00:13.37 | sbetore | gkrellmd...! |
| 00:13.40 | Crimson | But! I am drunk! and using irc! |
| 00:13.51 | sysice_ | JoshTriplett: what do you mean which interface? |
| 00:13.55 | cafuego | sysice_: You make sure you have a driver for it; probably 'madwifi'. |
| 00:14.08 | JoshTriplett | mickeyks: And does that seem right? How big is your monitor, and what resolution do you run. |
| 00:14.19 | JoshTriplett | cafuego: It sounds like he already has the driver set up. |
| 00:14.28 | sysice_ | i must, because it recognizes the card |
| 00:14.30 | JoshTriplett | sysice_: I mean "eth0", "eth1", etc. |
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| 00:14.33 | sysice_ | it beeps and prints a message |
| 00:14.35 | sysice_ | Oh. |
| 00:14.39 | sysice_ | Yeah thats what I am trying to figure out |
| 00:14.42 | sysice_ | How do i find that out? |
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| 00:15.04 | cafuego | JoshTriplett: a .11g card? On a default debian kernel? |
| 00:15.09 | JoshTriplett | sysice_: You could try "iwconfig". |
| 00:15.21 | sysice_ | i dont have that |
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| 00:15.25 | sysice_ | I did an extremely minimal install |
| 00:15.26 | JoshTriplett | cafuego: Yes. The prism54 driver was merged, you just have to install hotplug and the proprietary firmware. |
| 00:15.28 | cafuego | sysice_: you need it |
| 00:15.30 | sbetore | I've got a strange problem, though... btdownloadcurses (IOW, BitTorrent) slows my network's external access to a crawl |
| 00:15.33 | sysice_ | and was going to dothe rest over the net |
| 00:15.35 | cafuego | sysice_: apt-get install wireless-tools |
| 00:15.35 | JoshTriplett | sysice_: apt-get install wireless-tools. |
| 00:15.40 | JoshTriplett | cafuego: heh. |
| 00:15.50 | sysice_ | okay ill go plug in directly |
| 00:15.50 | sysice_ | brb |
| 00:16.15 | OwlManAtt | Hi. I'm getting a mass of errors from dpkg now. I think it might of been because I rm'd /var/lib/dpkg/info/*. The errors say the file list for about every package is missing. Anyway to rebuild the file lists for all installed packages without reinstalling debian? |
| 00:16.21 | JoshTriplett | cafuego: Although I don't know if the Debian kernel is new enough to have it. |
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| 00:16.45 | JoshTriplett | OwlManAtt: That would do it. "Don't Do That Then." :) |
| 00:17.02 | Justin | !tell OwlManAtt about reinstall |
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| 00:17.06 | JoshTriplett | OwlManAtt: Do you have a list of installed packages? |
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| 00:17.27 | OwlManAtt | JoshTriplett: I guess apt has one somewhere |
| 00:17.30 | sbetore | JoshTriplett: prism54's been in since 2.6.5 |
| 00:17.36 | JoshTriplett | OwlManAtt: Look in /usr/share/doc ; there is a directory for every package, so you could use that as a list of installed packages. |
| 00:17.49 | sethw | hello, I have a wheel mouse now & the wheel doesnt work. PS/2, debian stable, 2.4.18 |
| 00:17.50 | Justin | JoshTriplett: random suggestions don't help |
| 00:17.51 | thomas_adam | OwlManAtt: You're a fool. ; |
| 00:17.54 | JoshTriplett | OwlManAtt: Get the list, and apt-get --reinstall install everything. |
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| 00:18.05 | JoshTriplett | Justin: Not random. |
| 00:18.06 | mickeyks | JoshTriplett: 17" 1024 x 768 |
| 00:18.10 | Justin | JoshTriplett: it's not correct either. |
| 00:18.12 | OwlManAtt | Meh, I'll just reinstall the box. Ah well, thanks. |
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| 00:18.31 | JoshTriplett | Justin: I've fixed similar situations when {,/usr}/{s,}bin/* was removed. |
| 00:18.46 | Justin | JoshTriplett: thats nice. |
| 00:18.56 | JoshTriplett | Justin: Debian makes it easy. |
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| 00:19.17 | Justin | !tell JoshTriplett about reinstall |
| 00:19.27 | SpAc_ | whats the name of an apache config program for KDE? Is it apache conf? |
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| 00:19.36 | Justin | SpAc_: kate ? |
| 00:19.46 | mickeyks | is sendmail an mta and an mda? |
| 00:19.46 | JoshTriplett | Justin: That works too. |
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| 00:19.50 | thomas_adam | SpAc_: That question makes no sense. If it is KDE related ask in #kde. |
| 00:19.50 | sysice_ | JoshTriplett: ok, installed |
| 00:20.06 | sysice_ | JoshTriplett: iwconfig gives me: lo - No wireless extentions; eth0 - No wireless extentions |
| 00:20.10 | pattern | i have a question regarding djbdns: i have a bind server on my lan which does resolution for a private domain that's not in any public dns records (ie. there are no NS records for this domain outside my lan's nameserver)... is there a way i can configure dnscache to look to that bind server to resolve names in that private domain? |
| 00:20.18 | JoshTriplett | sysice_: Now, do you have a DHCP server running? (For example, do you have a router?) |
| 00:20.23 | sysice_ | Yeah |
| 00:20.24 | SpAc_ | sorry... i thought there was a gui you could run in KDE for apache |
| 00:20.28 | sysice_ | I do |
| 00:20.51 | lii | SpAc_: You want a graphical front-end for configuring Apache? webmin might help, though I'd really recommend using text editors and knowing the config file format inside out before you start. :) |
| 00:20.56 | JoshTriplett | sysice_: Hang on, you should have a card with the extentions. Is the driver loaded right now? |
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| 00:21.07 | JoshTriplett | sysice_: Are you using the prism54 driver? |
| 00:21.13 | JoshTriplett | sysice_: Or something else. |
| 00:21.15 | sysice_ | no no |
| 00:21.18 | sysice_ | I never loaded a driver |
| 00:21.18 | thomas_adam | SpAc_: You probably mean 'vim'. |
| 00:21.20 | sbetore | Haha, I have too much shit (TM) on my Debian laptop |
| 00:21.21 | SpAc_ | ok... it must have been a red hat thing... i used to be able to configure apache through the system menu in cke |
| 00:21.23 | sysice_ | because i thought it was working |
| 00:21.29 | mickeyks | i'm confused about the difference between an mta and an mda |
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| 00:21.38 | sysice_ | Should i get the prism54 driver? |
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| 00:21.47 | JoshTriplett | sysice_: Don't know; what is your card? |
| 00:21.50 | sbetore | apt-get dist-upgrade is a 384 meg download |
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| 00:21.54 | sysice_ | Linksys WPC54G |
| 00:22.00 | JoshTriplett | sysice_: Do you have both a wired and wireless card? |
| 00:22.02 | lii | mickeyks: An MTA passes mail between hosts. An MDA shoves mail into mailboxes. And MUA reads mail. |
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| 00:22.17 | sysice_ | My wireless card is that one, my wired is an integrated 3Com ethernet |
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| 00:22.26 | sysice_ | So yes |
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| 00:22.49 | mickeyks | lii: man fetchmail talks about exim and sendmail as MDAs, but aren't they also MTAs? |
| 00:23.22 | helix | and WMDs |
| 00:23.24 | dave^^^^ | what do I need to change to let regular users mount a CD? |
| 00:23.32 | sbetore | sleep 1h; init 0 |
| 00:23.38 | sbetore | whoops, wrong window |
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| 00:23.44 | sysice_ | lol |
| 00:23.53 | JoshTriplett | dave^^^^: Make sure they are in group "cdrom". |
| 00:24.06 | JoshTriplett | dave^^^^: And that the cdrom device is owned by that group. |
| 00:24.30 | sysice_ | JoshTriplett: should iwconfig be listing something for my wireless card? |
| 00:24.34 | lii | mickeyks: Technically, sendmail and exim are MTA's _and_ MDA's, because they include built-in code to drop messages into mailbox files. But they're able to outsource the MDA thing to external, more flexible programs like procmail. |
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| 00:24.40 | JoshTriplett | sysice_: Well, I don't see that exact card in the prism54 list, but some that are very similar. |
| 00:24.50 | sysice_ | ok i'll try it anyway |
| 00:24.51 | JoshTriplett | sysice_: Yes, it should be, if you have the driver loaded. |
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| 00:24.57 | De_Mon | why does 'sysinfo' say that 93% of the cpu is idle while compiling, but 'top' will tell me that user is using 93% cpu |
| 00:24.59 | JoshTriplett | sysice_: What kernel are you using? |
| 00:25.14 | sysice_ | 2.4.25 |
| 00:25.23 | sysice_ | The one sarge installed |
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| 00:25.55 | JoshTriplett | sysice_: OK, you will either need to install a 2.6 kernel, or build a 2.4 kernel with the prism54 patch. |
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| 00:26.09 | sysice_ | :|||| |
| 00:26.18 | helix | humberto massa makes my life so difficult |
| 00:26.25 | sysice_ | does the 2.6 kernel have prism already in it or something? |
| 00:26.31 | JoshTriplett | sysice_: Once you have done that, make sure hotplug is installed, and follow the instructions on prism54.org about the firmware. |
| 00:26.33 | JoshTriplett | sysice_: Yes. |
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| 00:26.41 | sysice_ | allright, ill do that then |
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| 00:26.45 | JoshTriplett | sysice_: Let me doublecheck the default config. |
| 00:26.52 | sysice_ | would it be safe to apt-get the 2.6 kernel? |
| 00:26.55 | Kumpel | hi ! anyone got the fglrx ATI driver with a radeon 9500-9800 to work ? |
| 00:27.30 | lii | helix: What's humberto massa? |
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| 00:27.48 | helix | lii: this dude who has broken an enormous thread on -devel about 40 times |
| 00:27.49 | JoshTriplett | Kumpel: No, but I helped someone get the standard XFree86 drivers working on such a card. |
| 00:27.56 | helix | he's dondelelcaro's friend |
| 00:27.59 | dondelelcaro | helix: heh. |
| 00:28.21 | lii | helix: Oh, thought you were eating a messy dish. :) |
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| 00:28.22 | Spartak | i keep getting "No MemShared line in /proc/meminfo" from my snmpd in my logs im using kernel 2.6 can someone clue me in on how to fix this? |
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| 00:28.28 | JoshTriplett | helix: Yes, that's a pain. What I don't understand is that his User-Agent is Mozilla Mail (albeit on Windows), and that works fine with threads. |
| 00:28.37 | Kumpel | JoshTriplett, 2d works but OpenGL not ! |
| 00:28.38 | helix | lii: oh yeah - not only is he totally retarded wrt his MUA, but he also Cc'ed lkml |
| 00:28.42 | helix | and he uses windows, damnit |
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| 00:28.47 | sysice_ | JoshTriplett: Think i could apt-get the 2.6 kernel? Or do i need to compile it myself |
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| 00:28.49 | JoshTriplett | Kumpel: Yes, that's true. |
| 00:28.51 | dave^^^^ | JoshH, the cdrom is owned by root...can i just chown that? will stuff break? |
| 00:28.52 | helix | JoshTriplett: i know! |
| 00:29.03 | JoshTriplett | sysice_: Let me check. |
| 00:29.05 | helix | i do see one properly threaded response from him though |
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| 00:29.26 | burd | I have a small group of folks with various talents, we use debian on several servers and want to donate some time.. what's available or how can we find out what help debian needs? |
| 00:29.49 | helix | burd: interested in writing man pages and squashing bugs? :) |
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| 00:30.13 | helix | burd: you could donate hardware as well, i think. there should be a page on debian.org about how you can help |
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| 00:30.18 | helix | because there are _lots_ of ways |
| 00:30.19 | burd | helix:manpages would rule cause it pisses me off when man is not thorough enough |
| 00:30.33 | mickeyks | lii: but fetchmail polls, say, imap sites, right? not smtp sites, which are what you send outgoing mail to? |
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| 00:30.39 | JoshTriplett | sysice_: I'm downloading the packaged kernel to check the .config now. |
| 00:30.52 | FlimFlamMan | for python-based webapps, would you choose twisted.web, cheetah, or quixote? and why? |
| 00:30.54 | pir4 | how can i add one process as service ? |
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| 00:31.01 | gissi | I've just updated my unstable... Squirrel was working fine, now I get some errors when I try to access the Trash folder... The upgraded packages were Courier's,,, |
| 00:31.04 | helix | burd: http://qa.debian.org/man-pages.html |
| 00:31.06 | sysice_ | JoshTriplett: Ok |
| 00:31.07 | helix | burd: have fun. ;) |
| 00:31.16 | lii | mickeyks: That's right. |
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| 00:31.32 | cafuego | FlimFlamMan: php coz I know php. |
| 00:31.36 | helix | In total 3124 man pages are missing at the moment. |
| 00:31.39 | helix | that's insane |
| 00:31.44 | burd | lol yah |
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| 00:31.56 | helix | there were only like 2000 last time i checked |
| 00:32.02 | JoshTriplett | dave^^^^: Don't change the owner, just change the group to cdrom. Also, s/JoshH/JoshTriplett/. |
| 00:32.04 | lii | FlimFlamMan: You could get the whole sales spiel in #twisted; they'd probably try to get you to use Nevow instead. |
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| 00:32.35 | Kumpel | JoshTriplett, the installation of the driver was no problem and building kernel-module fglrx.ko, too - all was fine but no 3d ! kernel 2.6.6 AGP modules compiled into kernel and DRI deaktivate in the kernel ! |
| 00:32.41 | guestish | hi |
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| 00:32.48 | JoshTriplett | dave^^^^: Also, make sure the /dev/cdrom symlink points to your CD-ROM device. |
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| 00:33.23 | JoshTriplett | Kumpel: Can't help you there, I just use the XFree86 driver. I think the dpkg bot has a factoid about the ati drivers, but I don't know the exact name. Anyone? |
| 00:33.44 | JoshTriplett | Kumpel: Ah. /msg dpkg ati drivers . |
| 00:33.46 | helix | !listkeys ati |
| 00:33.47 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'ati' by key (15 shown; 195 total): schematic ;; visor platinum ;; makewhatis ;; linux documentation project ;; operations ;; quit equivocating ;; segmentation faults ;; woody ati rage 128 pro tf ;; noatin ;; aspect ratio ;; be provocative barbie ;; non-profit organization (us) ;; pejorative ;; fellatio now ;; impatience. |
| 00:33.54 | helix | haha |
| 00:33.58 | helix | "quit equivocating" |
| 00:33.59 | helix | ok then |
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| 00:34.09 | helix | !fellatio now |
| 00:34.16 | helix | hmm |
| 00:34.40 | JoshTriplett | helix: "quit equivocating" appears to be useless. |
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| 00:34.59 | helix | as does fellatio now |
| 00:35.20 | idnar | !ati drivers |
| 00:35.21 | dpkg | debs of the binary ATI drivers are at http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html (requires that the 'rpm' package be installed) Be sure to *disable* the DRM option and *modularize* the AGP GART option in your custom kernel (under Character Devices). |
| 00:35.43 | JoshTriplett | helix: Well, "quit equivocating" at least has some content, just useless content. |
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| 00:36.07 | helix | JoshTriplett: oh yes, i see. :) |
| 00:36.21 | Kumpel | JoshTriplett, yep i got the .debs from xoomer bit doesnt work... |
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| 00:36.34 | JoshTriplett | sysice_: OK, the 2.6.6 kernel does have the prism54 driver built. |
| 00:36.57 | JoshTriplett | Kumpel: Can't help you there. Try asking the maintainer, or checking if there is anything else you have forgotten. |
| 00:36.57 | gissi | any clues on why squirrel not working on unstable? |
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| 00:37.13 | pingouin | did you check the BTS gissi ? |
| 00:37.26 | De_Mon | whats the deal with h323? I'm trying to host netmeeting through this linux box without success. |
| 00:37.34 | sysice_ | JoshTriplett: Cool, ill install that |
| 00:37.45 | JoshTriplett | sysice_: So install the 2.6 kernel image for your processor, and install hotplug, and follow the firmware instructions on prism54.org |
| 00:38.00 | sysice_ | JoshTriplett: ok thanks alot |
| 00:38.21 | JoshTriplett | De_Mon: You wouldn't happen to be involved with PSAS, would you? |
| 00:38.48 | De_Mon | I only need it to work for one host so I was just forwarding everything from the caller to the machine hosting (iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -s <their_ip> -j DNAT --to <mypc>) and it says that machine is not accepting calls??? |
| 00:38.58 | De_Mon | JoshTriplett who? |
| 00:39.09 | JoshTriplett | De_Mon: Nevermind then. |
| 00:39.10 | sysice_ | JoshTriplett: I want to apt-get install kernel-tree-2.6.6 for the prebuilt packages right? |
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| 00:39.21 | JoshTriplett | sysice_: No. |
| 00:39.32 | pattern | if anyone cares, the docs describing how to do what i asked about are here - http://cr.yp.to/djbdns/dot-local.html |
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| 00:39.36 | IdNotWindows | De_Mon: I believe you forgot to declare the protocol |
| 00:39.52 | Kumpel | JoshTriplett, okay - last question - i still have the xserver-xfree86 package installed. is that enough ? |
| 00:40.00 | guestish | test |
| 00:40.01 | JoshTriplett | sysice_: kernel-image-2.6.6-1-yourprocessor |
| 00:40.07 | guestish | alright then |
| 00:40.14 | sysice_ | Ah. |
| 00:40.14 | De_Mon | IdNotWindows not declaring a protocol is the same as specifying both (iirc) |
| 00:40.19 | JoshTriplett | Kumpel: You should probably have all of the x-window-system package dependencies installed. |
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| 00:40.34 | De_Mon | just like not declaring the destination is the same as saying anywhere |
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| 00:41.07 | gissi | pingouin: BTS? |
| 00:41.07 | Kumpel | JoshTriplett, okay thx ! will check it out ! |
| 00:41.16 | IdNotWindows | De_Mon: hmmm I always declare it, never tried w/o declaring though... in case everything else fails, declare just for the sake of trying it out :P |
| 00:41.36 | pingouin | gissi, : /topic |
| 00:41.51 | JoshTriplett | sysice_: Once you have all of that working, iwconfig should show another interface, which has wireless extentions. |
| 00:41.54 | pingouin | you use Sid....and dont use Bts...?! |
| 00:41.54 | gissi | ops |
| 00:42.07 | sysice_ | JoshTriplett: roger |
| 00:42.08 | De_Mon | IdNotWindows i guess |
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| 00:42.54 | gissi | pingouin: Bug Tracking :-) No, I don't... I'm pretty new on Debian :-) I was a Gentoo user... |
| 00:43.14 | pingouin | what are you're best url to a most up-2-date list of suported hardware ? |
| 00:43.28 | pingouin | ok gissi ;) welcome |
| 00:44.21 | JoshTriplett | sysice_: Once you have that set up, add the following lines to /etc/network/interfaces: |
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| 00:44.38 | JoshTriplett | sysice_: iface eth1 inet dhcp |
| 00:44.44 | cafuego | helix: Hmmm, just got the call telling me I'm not going... so I can't get your CDs. |
| 00:44.49 | JoshTriplett | sysice_: wireless-mode Managed |
| 00:44.52 | gissi | pingouin: Thanks :-) |
| 00:45.00 | JoshTriplett | wireless-essid your-essid |
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| 00:46.06 | JoshTriplett | sysice_: wireless-enc yourkey , where yourkey is a numeric WEP key (00:11:22:...) or a string key prefixed with "s:". |
| 00:46.23 | JoshTriplett | sysice_: Then when you bring up the interface, it gets configured accordingly. |
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| 00:47.10 | mickeyks | fetchmail reports no errors when i "awaken" it from mutt...yet it doesn't seem to be fetching an email that i sent myself |
| 00:47.24 | helix | cafuego: ah, ok. i appreciate the thought anyway :) |
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| 00:47.56 | guestish | cafuego: why? |
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| 00:48.15 | cafuego | guestish: Coz I'll have time to do so; projectd eadlines etc. |
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| 00:48.58 | cafuego | helix: The brazilians still don't have their own system (what I would go there for and with, to operate) but I think they're keeping their fingers crossed that they can get it out of customs om monday. |
| 00:49.05 | cafuego | if not, they're stuffed. |
| 00:49.08 | guestish | cafuego: heh |
| 00:49.13 | helix | heh |
| 00:49.28 | mickeyks | ...and yet the email did get received, i can see it in webmail |
| 00:49.40 | fragg | I've just installed a 2.6.4 kernel I made using make-kpkg, and using it I can't switch VTs at ALL |
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| 00:50.18 | JoshTriplett | fragg: Check your .config carefully. Many of the basic options, like VT support and keyboard support, are optional in the 2.6 kernel. |
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| 00:50.48 | fragg | I think the console keymap is wrong, and this might be causing it, but I can't remember at all how to change it |
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| 00:51.33 | fragg | JoshTriplett: don't think so, if I start/restart X I can switch from there back to any of the VTs - but from the VTs I can't switch to X or any other VT |
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| 00:51.58 | JoshTriplett | fragg: Ah, OK. |
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