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| 00:00.44 | es | Blissex: cooooooooooool that was the kind of stuff I was looking since long long time many thanks |
| 00:00.52 | xoz | creature: place it in /etc/modules |
| 00:00.53 | guestish | anyone have any ideas on how to batch convert a cd of wma's to mp3s? |
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| 00:01.11 | dminuteman | i have knoppix installed on my laptop and cannot access how do i install fedora core |
| 00:01.15 | guestish | no DRM on the wmas |
| 00:01.23 | es | Debian is much configurable compared to mandrake |
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| 00:01.37 | salon21 | anyone knows how i can close nautilus |
| 00:01.38 | Blissex | creature: it may be a hotplug problem. make sure you have run 'depmod -a' too, and 'update-modules' |
| 00:01.40 | lockige | dminuteman: what do you mean can't access? |
| 00:01.47 | creature | xoz - my /etc/modules is a file, not a folder. |
| 00:01.58 | es | blb |
| 00:02.06 | dminuteman | it will not accept my password |
| 00:02.07 | Blissex | creature: add the names of the modules you want loaded by default to '/etc/modules' |
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| 00:02.17 | uwe | um , is it so that debian always makes running X a hard job , i tried to install in in a VMware and on bare machine , and im not able to configure X , whats the tool that helps doing so in debian? |
| 00:02.22 | xoz | creature: yup... just place the names of the modules there..... |
| 00:02.30 | lockige | salon21: gconftool-2 -s -t bool /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop false |
| 00:02.36 | guestish | i have mplayer, i just need a way so i dont have to do each indivual file :) |
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| 00:02.57 | carrett | xine can use just as many codecs as xine, right? |
| 00:03.00 | xoz | creature: what i mean is open it with an editor |
| 00:03.00 | Blissex | uwe: several. I like 'xf86cfg', but also: 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86', 'X -configure', 'xf86config' |
| 00:03.17 | lockige | dminuteman: oh dear. my knoppix hd install was pretty successful, i wouldn't give up on it just yet if were you (imho) |
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| 00:03.29 | Caelum | is there a way to probe the video memory available on a video card? |
| 00:03.32 | xoz | uwe: try XFree86 -configure |
| 00:03.34 | g4lt | carrett ... |
| 00:03.35 | uwe | aha ... and i thought debian doesnt have any :D thanx alot |
| 00:03.47 | carrett | g4lt: am i annoying you? |
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| 00:04.19 | Caelum | when lspci -v -s id only shows the start address of the memory region, but not the size |
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| 00:04.27 | brucey | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:04.28 | g4lt | !qotd15 is <carrett> xine can use just as many codecs as xine, right? |
| 00:04.32 | dpkg | g4lt: okay |
| 00:04.44 | carrett | g4lt: doh, i meant mplayer |
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| 00:04.54 | salon21 | lockig: cool thx |
| 00:05.09 | carrett | xine can use just as many codecs as mplayer, right? |
| 00:05.17 | Blissex | carrett: not quite. |
| 00:05.19 | g4lt | carrett in that case yes |
| 00:05.33 | carrett | Blissex: do continue |
| 00:05.47 | creature | I think the depmod -a and update-modules has got this sorted. Let's say I've got a couple of other modules floating around that I've built from source (not part of the main kernel): Can I just copy them somewhere in /lib/modules/2.6.7, and run the 2 previous commands again? |
| 00:05.47 | salon21 | lockige: thx, is there any simlper way for the next time |
| 00:06.07 | Blissex | carrett: 'mplayer' is slightly more fexible, but in practice for most users they are equivalent. IIRC... |
| 00:06.16 | carrett | creature: sorry about the false diagnosis |
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| 00:06.45 | xoz | creature: yup. it may work. |
| 00:06.53 | creature | carrett: No problems. |
| 00:07.38 | AMIGrAve | i saw on a forum that the maintainer of libwxgtk refuses to make a package with libwx built on top of gtk2, is that true ? |
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| 00:07.57 | lockige | salon21: what about the session manager tabs? |
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| 00:08.34 | lockige | salon21 : but gconfeditor is a useful prog, nevertheless |
| 00:08.36 | salon21 | lockige: sry i?m newto linux - what?s that? |
| 00:08.51 | medgno | linux 2.6.7 isn't in unstable yet? |
| 00:08.53 | Blissex | creature: I usually create something like '/lib/modules/2.6.7/local' and run 'depmod -a' |
| 00:09.07 | mwilson | medgno: No. |
| 00:09.18 | medgno | mwilson: okay, thanks |
| 00:09.20 | salon21 | lockige: where can i find the session manager tabs? |
| 00:09.31 | Chameleon21 | anyone knows where i can find some info on following log entry "fatal: mm_request_send: write" google aint being too helpful |
| 00:09.35 | creature | OK, next question: I've got a digital camera here that mounts just fine on my main machine on 2.4 under usb-storage on /dev/sda1. Has 2.6 done something funky with this or is there some other reason why I can't mount my camera in the same way? |
| 00:09.50 | Blissex | creature: no reason why not. |
| 00:09.51 | lockige | salon21: try "man xsm" for an explanation of session manager, available http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man1/xsm.1.html |
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| 00:10.22 | Blissex | creature: check that it is '/dev/sda' and not something else, and make sure you got the right modules loaded. |
| 00:10.22 | eeyore- | creature: which 2.6? |
| 00:10.26 | lockige | salon21: in the meantime, run "xsm" |
| 00:10.43 | creature | 2.6.7 . When I turn it on and plug it in, I get "USB Mass Storage device found at 2". |
| 00:10.50 | xoz | creature: load ehci-hcd, uhci-hcd, ohci-hcd.... |
| 00:10.52 | carrett | hey, what kernel drivers do i need to use a USB harddrive? |
| 00:10.58 | lockige | salon21: then hit "load session" and go to "kill client" |
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| 00:11.14 | eeyore- | creature: the names for usb low-level drivers have changed |
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| 00:11.34 | xoz | creature: or try usbmgr or hotplug to detect you card. |
| 00:11.35 | creature | eeyore-: - yeah, I've twigged that much and got uhci-hcd and usb-storage loaded. |
| 00:11.39 | eeyore- | create: what used to be usb_uhci is now uhci-ecd, usb_ehci -> ehci-ecd. that's probably why |
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| 00:12.11 | toresbe | carrett: Well, you would need either ehci-hcd, ohci-hcd, or uhci-hcd. |
| 00:12.29 | creature | So as far as I can tell, I've got the relevant USB stuff loaded. As I say, when I plug it in it detects it correctly (stuff shows up in my logs). |
| 00:12.31 | toresbe | carrett: If it's USB2 then it's ehci-hcd |
| 00:12.32 | eeyore- | creature: once you load the usb stack, you should be OK. works for me :) works for my camera, powermate, and the typical usb card reader devices |
| 00:12.41 | toresbe | carrett: Then, get usb-storage. |
| 00:12.44 | xoz | carrett: load ehci-hcd, uhci-hcd, ohci-hcd, usb-storage |
| 00:12.57 | carrett | xoz: thanks |
| 00:12.58 | creature | But I'm told that /dev/sda1 is not a valid block device. |
| 00:13.03 | carrett | toresbe: thanks |
| 00:13.09 | carrett | i couldn't get the firewire to work |
| 00:13.11 | toresbe | carrett: NP. :) |
| 00:13.13 | carrett | so i guess i'll try with usb |
| 00:13.15 | salon21 | lockige: it opens another kind of terminal but it doesn?t accept "load session" |
| 00:13.16 | eeyore- | creature: /proc/scsi, look in there |
| 00:13.23 | xoz | creature: check dmesg |
| 00:13.29 | toresbe | carrett: Oh, Firewire is way out of my leagure wrt hardware ;) |
| 00:13.31 | carrett | toresbe: how do i mount it after that? |
| 00:13.48 | toresbe | carrett: I'm typing this on a Celeron 450, and it's the fastest box I've got >_< |
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| 00:13.58 | toresbe | carrett: mount /dev/sda1 /mnt |
| 00:14.11 | carrett | toresbe: oh, so what SCSI modules do i need? |
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| 00:14.20 | carrett | toresbe: right now i don't think i have any scsi installed... |
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| 00:14.32 | carrett | toresbe: and my kernel is built from scratch... |
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| 00:14.38 | toresbe | carrett: Are you using a standard deb binary kernel? |
| 00:14.47 | carrett | toresbe: i built it from a kernel-source package |
| 00:14.53 | toresbe | carrett: Aaah. Then, i think, scsi-generic, sg-something |
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| 00:15.12 | lockige | salon21: did it give you the option? |
| 00:15.13 | creature | "Attached devices: Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00" |
| 00:15.20 | carrett | xoz: do you know which SCSI modules i need to have in order to use a USB/Firewire harddrive? |
| 00:15.25 | creature | Seems to be a relevant line in /proc/scsi/scsi. |
| 00:15.55 | Blissex | carrett: you need 'sd_mod' and the others will load automagically if you use 'modprobe' |
| 00:16.06 | xoz | carrett: try sg, sd_mod |
| 00:16.19 | salon21 | lockige: it says bash: load: command not found |
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| 00:16.35 | carrett | Blissex: but right now i don't have any scsi support conf'd in because i'm using a self-made kernel |
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| 00:16.42 | carrett | xoz: thanks |
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| 00:16.51 | Blissex | carrett: not totally wise considering your goal :-) |
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| 00:17.23 | carrett | Blissex: well, i'll figure it out :) |
| 00:17.28 | xoz | creature: ide drive ... no need for scsi i think . |
| 00:17.35 | steven | do you need to be root in order to run gcc |
| 00:17.53 | g4lt | steven nope |
| 00:17.55 | salon21 | lockige: don?t worry it works fine again, thx for the help |
| 00:17.59 | xoz | steven: nope |
| 00:17.59 | creature | xoz: I don't really care what it is, I'd just like it to tell me what /dev it's hanging off. |
| 00:18.05 | lockige | steven: no but if you're installing something the folders you tread on might be owned by root |
| 00:18.20 | lockige | salon21: no prob - did xsm work then? |
| 00:18.30 | creature | But if it's not a scsi drive, why is it showing up under /proc/scsi? |
| 00:18.37 | creature | What makes you say it's an IDE device? |
| 00:18.44 | salon21 | lockige: yes |
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| 00:18.53 | lockige | salon21: groovy! |
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| 00:19.03 | salon21 | why? |
| 00:19.08 | Kempston | how do i remove raid0 ? |
| 00:19.08 | xoz | creature: do you have hwinfo? |
| 00:19.17 | salon21 | lockige: why? |
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| 00:19.24 | Kempston | i can see raid0 module in lsmod |
| 00:19.28 | creature | xoz: Afraid not. |
| 00:19.32 | Kempston | but it's not in /etc/modules |
| 00:19.43 | Chameleon21 | anyone knows where i can find some info on following log entry "fatal: mm_request_send: write" google aint being too helpful |
| 00:19.51 | xoz | creature: running stable? |
| 00:19.58 | creature | Yes. |
| 00:20.02 | steven | i tried to compile a program, and it says /usr/bin/ld cannot open output /home/example |
| 00:20.12 | lockige | salon21: the error confused me ;) xsm is very helpful when you get session problems, i think it's def. work checking out |
| 00:20.44 | xoz | creature: have you tried hotplug to detect your drive.... seems that there are missing drivers.... |
| 00:20.53 | salon21 | lockige: maybe you can help me with another problem |
| 00:21.03 | Bridger | can I plug a 266mhz DDR RAM and a 333mhz DDR RAM on the same motherboard? |
| 00:21.12 | creature | xoz - can't say I have. apt-getting now. |
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| 00:21.20 | Bridger | I mean, can I install two rams with different frequencies? |
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| 00:21.41 | salon21 | lockige: if i set my screensaver to test i can see it. but if it starts by time the screen remains black |
| 00:21.45 | Blissex | Bridger: yes, as long as you configure the system to run at 266 |
| 00:21.57 | xoz | creature: load sg, st, scsi_mod,usb-storage, sd_mod |
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| 00:22.08 | lockige | salon21: in gnome i take it? |
| 00:22.34 | creature | The only one out of those that I've got is scsi_mod and usb-storage. |
| 00:22.39 | uwe | Bridger, me think u can but ull use the lower frequency for both ... but im not 100% sure |
| 00:22.40 | xoz | creature: load ohci-hcd,uhci-hcd,ehci-hcd |
| 00:22.47 | salon21 | lockige: yes - it?s the xscreensaver |
| 00:23.04 | xoz | creature: try to load these.... and mount again |
| 00:23.11 | salon21 | lockige: a wait - it?s the kde desktop |
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| 00:24.05 | lockige | lockige: hmm |
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| 00:24.13 | sussudio | sgeigerbot: one of your neighbours is r00ted |
| 00:24.25 | lockige | salon21: sorry i presumed gnome cos of nautilus |
| 00:24.30 | cafuego | wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 00:24.31 | simonrvn | @tell Efrafax -about root |
| 00:24.40 | leitao | please, i listen about a diskette that broke nt password.. do anyone know about it?? where can i found it? |
| 00:24.43 | creature | xoz: Tried that, still doesn't mount. |
| 00:24.46 | simonrvn | !tell Efrafax -about root |
| 00:25.09 | simonrvn | cafuego: not in your pants i hope? |
| 00:25.17 | lockige | salon21: can't say i know much about screensaves but this might be relevant: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/176053 |
| 00:25.31 | vladdrak | leitao: knoppix STD or ntpasswd |
| 00:25.39 | simonrvn | sussudio: i've had a tonne |
| 00:25.48 | xoz | creature: better usbmgr or hotplug figure it out then.... tail -f /var/log/syslog while mounting to get error messages. |
| 00:25.56 | simonrvn | sussudio: and some of that windoze messenger crap too |
| 00:25.57 | sussudio | simonrvn: any icmp pingfloods? |
| 00:26.13 | creature | xoz: How would I use hotplug to figure it out? |
| 00:26.13 | vladdrak | leitao: you're talking about ntpasswd i suspect.. |
| 00:26.14 | brucey | is the libcurl BORKEDness in sid over now?? |
| 00:26.22 | simonrvn | sussudio: a few test pings, "nothing more" |
| 00:26.29 | mwilson | brucey: Some time ago, as the BTS would tell you. |
| 00:26.35 | xoz | creature: /etc/init.d/hotplug start or restart. |
| 00:26.37 | brucey | mwilson: thank you kind sir |
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| 00:26.52 | Efrafax | re |
| 00:27.28 | simonrvn | sussudio: holy crap |
| 00:27.33 | sussudio | simonrvn: kafee |
| 00:27.37 | mwilson | "make requirements"? |
| 00:27.39 | mwilson | ack |
| 00:27.41 | xoz | creature: sometimes usbmgr if hotplug fails..... both should work if you're in testing or unstable. i have no problem so far mounting ide usb |
| 00:27.43 | carrett | hey, what is port 8000 for and why does this alice bot plugin for gaim want to use it? |
| 00:28.03 | g4lt | carrett grep 8000 /etc/services |
| 00:28.15 | medgno | has anyone gotten the translusency working in kde yet? |
| 00:28.17 | carrett | g4lt: nothing comes up. i'm thinking i need to install a package or something... |
| 00:28.28 | lockige | medgno: yes. but it's disgusting |
| 00:28.41 | medgno | lockige: how disgusting? |
| 00:28.54 | creature | xoz: OK, so that's just given me messages implying it's handled by usb_storage. |
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| 00:28.57 | sussudio | poutine disgusting? |
| 00:28.57 | g4lt | carrett no, /etc/services is pretty comprehensive |
| 00:28.59 | libv | lockige: why? it shows the intentestines of X does it? |
| 00:29.11 | carrett | g4lt: i understand, but try it. nothing comes up. |
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| 00:29.21 | g4lt | carrett loose translation, alicebot/gaim just needs a port to listen on |
| 00:29.22 | lockige | libv: worse, it reminds me how crap my wallpaper is ;) |
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| 00:29.30 | xoz | creature: i think it should work with that message.... sorry, can't figure out what's wrong. |
| 00:29.31 | thetrooper | hello guys! does anyonw know where I can find the driver for the nvnet network card compiled for 2.4.25?? |
| 00:29.32 | carrett | g4lt: ok, thanks. |
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| 00:29.51 | lockige | medgno: i dunno, there's something about it.... but what's the prob? |
| 00:29.52 | libv | lockige: well, change your wallpaper to something different than goatse.cx |
| 00:29.57 | creature | well, it tells me there's a missing driver usb-storage, but I'm guessing it's actually handled by usb_storage. |
| 00:30.07 | salon21 | lockige: i?ll try this thx again |
| 00:30.10 | creature | One of those 2.4 -> 2.6 nomenclature changes. |
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| 00:30.21 | lockige | salon21: no prob :-) |
| 00:30.33 | medgno | my main thing is that all selected icons show up as being hideous rainbow colors |
| 00:30.45 | carrett | the reaosn i worry is the plugin says "replaces user an alice-bot running on the same host" |
| 00:30.46 | xoz | carrett: better add that 8000 in your services... |
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| 00:31.09 | nono_ | got one problem player a movie with mplayer. it is about the sound... when I active the sound on a particular movie, it slow all down... I am using osss emulation... can I use ALSA directly? |
| 00:31.19 | marcot | When I do modprobe vfat (and any other module) I'm having the error: |
| 00:31.29 | marcot | modprobe: QM_MODULES: Function not implemented |
| 00:31.55 | vladdrak | nono_: try sdl if you have it configured |
| 00:31.58 | marcot | I'm using kernel 2.6.6, home compiled, but I used to have the same error in 2.6.5 |
| 00:32.04 | carrett | marcot: read /topic |
| 00:32.19 | carrett | marcot: actually |
| 00:32.25 | carrett | marcot: install module-init-tools |
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| 00:32.53 | creature | xoz: Could it be because I don't have /dev/scsiX devices? |
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| 00:32.57 | marcot | carrett: thanks. |
| 00:33.20 | xoz | creature: AFAIK ... usb uses /dev/sd* |
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| 00:34.12 | chris__ | is gnome still broken? |
| 00:34.14 | xoz | creature: try adding if you're curious |
| 00:34.36 | chris__ | erm, it says nautilus in testing, but what about nautilus/gnome in unstable? |
| 00:34.45 | chris__ | is it safe to upgrade unstable? |
| 00:34.55 | Hass | where can i find some information about the error of module-init-tools??? |
| 00:35.00 | lockige | gnome 2.6 isn't supported even in unstable |
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| 00:35.09 | lockige | am i right there? |
| 00:35.16 | Hass | chris__: gnome was broken in Sid past week |
| 00:35.29 | xoz | Hass: apt-listbugs list modul-init-tools.... |
| 00:35.30 | chris__ | Hass: thanks. and this is still the case? |
| 00:35.46 | Hass | thx |
| 00:35.47 | marcot | carrett: it worked fine, thanks a lot. |
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| 00:36.16 | Hass | no idea chris__ |
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| 00:38.04 | creature | xoz: I guess I must be missing something from my kernel. What would you suggest I check? |
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| 00:38.52 | samlander | hello all |
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| 00:39.17 | samlander | is there a visual c++ editor/compiler in debian? |
| 00:39.21 | samlander | (for kde?) |
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| 00:39.52 | ApEtc | samlander: I believe kdevelop might be what you want |
| 00:39.54 | Hass | samlander: if you want a IDE for c++ try kdevelop or anjuta |
| 00:40.03 | samlander | ty both |
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| 00:42.14 | brucey | i believe module-init-tools is fixed in -2.deb ...i installed it and it fixed my booting issues |
| 00:42.34 | jem77 | I'm trying to install a 200GB HDD on Sarge. However, it doesn't work if I use the entire drive as a single partition. |
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| 00:43.01 | medgno | jem77: really? what fs are you using? |
| 00:43.06 | jem77 | I already have Sarge up-n-running, this is a 2nd drive. If I select approx 1/2 the size, it works fine. |
| 00:43.14 | jem77 | ext2 -j (ext3) |
| 00:43.42 | medgno | jem77: do you have an older bios, perchance? |
| 00:43.49 | bob2 | brucey: ah, thank you |
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| 00:44.15 | jem77 | medgno: I'll check that out. However, fdisk does recognize the correct disk size (200GB) |
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| 00:44.46 | medgno | jem77: that's weird, then.. |
| 00:44.52 | carrett | anyone know what i can do to .mpc files to make them playable? file foo.mpc just gives foo.mpc: data. |
| 00:45.09 | BlackNet | hey stupid question, trying to install woody and i get a segmentation fault when installing the base files. gives me a hangup |
| 00:45.20 | brucey | bob2: no problemo |
| 00:45.22 | BlackNet | any ideas? |
| 00:45.34 | *** topic/#debian by bob2 -> unbootable system? sid's module-init-tools from sunday is fucked, upgrade || kerneldos fixed in 2.6.7 | READ THE FAQ: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki | READ THE BTS (/msg dpkg bts) | Paste in #flood NOT here | /msg bots NOT people | /msg dpkg gnome settings daemon | BORKED: nautilus in testing (until capplets propogates) | /msg dpkg gnome2.6 | Debian is not Knoppix. | spambots got you down? /msg dpkg nospambot |
| 00:45.35 | gce | I'm an apache newbie. I've got a 2 week old install of debian sarge with apache 2. when doing http://localhost/cgi-bin/printenv instead of the script executing the contents are printed. I've got the fias /cgi-bin/ /usr/lib/cgi-bin with a <Direcotory> Options ExecCGIentry set in apache2.conf. Why does it display the contents instead of execing? |
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| 00:45.41 | bob2 | BlackNet: run "dmesg". |
| 00:46.01 | BlackNet | it's when doing the debootstrap |
| 00:46.07 | BlackNet | and dmesg doesnt' give much |
| 00:46.31 | medgno | sussudio: using knoppix carefully? |
| 00:46.37 | bob2 | "doesn't give much"? |
| 00:46.42 | bob2 | it doesn't show a kernel oops? |
| 00:46.42 | sussudio | medgno: there's no such thing |
| 00:46.45 | BlackNet | no like nothing at all |
| 00:46.59 | medgno | sussudio: okay, you have a point |
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| 00:47.16 | vogella | I was trying to build a kernel with make-kpkg for 2.6.6.1 according to an article in the Linux magazine. make-kpgk does not exists in my source tree. Any idea where to find this? |
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| 00:47.49 | sussudio | appearently there's another variant of the SasserWelchiaMicrosoftAnalIntrustionWorm that rather aggressively scans port 445. |
| 00:47.52 | petemc | vogella: kernel-package |
| 00:48.02 | sussudio | like 16.000 hits in 1 day here |
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| 00:49.00 | bob2 | sussudio: you should hook iptables to a ascript that roots the attacker and patches it |
| 00:49.10 | vogella | petemc: Thx, I will install this package. |
| 00:49.29 | sussudio | bob2: yes, except that i get hit multiple times a second and my router box would be working overtime |
| 00:49.44 | bob2 | ah |
| 00:50.05 | sussudio | someone should just declare ports 135 and 445 dead and block them at major routers. |
| 00:50.49 | toresbe | Night all :) |
| 00:50.51 | Hass | and just block all windows boxes? xD |
| 00:51.33 | bob2 | if you lived in the US, you could just whine at your ISP and use the word "terrorist" until they blocked it for you. |
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| 00:51.47 | bob2 | speaking of which, simpsons 15x21 is an amazing episode. |
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| 00:52.12 | bob2 | "Bart-Mangled Banner" |
| 00:52.13 | sussudio | someone still watched simpsons? |
| 00:52.35 | bob2 | oh, I went off it for years, but that one is great. and it partially files the futurama-shaped whole in my soul. |
| 00:52.50 | petemc | i hear that |
| 00:53.00 | vogella | petemc: thx, worked |
| 00:53.08 | petemc | at least they're talkin about bringing family guy back |
| 00:53.23 | bob2 | hahaha, that would be awesome |
| 00:53.39 | petemc | vogella: np, have a look in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/ if that magazine article doesnt explain everything |
| 00:54.28 | vogella | petemc: thx again, I will. |
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| 00:54.33 | bob2 | the episode after that even hasa character committing suicide because futurama got cancelled. |
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| 00:54.40 | Simpsom | hi all |
| 00:54.46 | tchmnkyz | w |
| 00:54.54 | petemc | bob2: been playin with an xbox lately, great media centre |
| 00:55.25 | BlackNet | apparently the only msgs is what displays on the screen |
| 00:55.44 | bob2 | BlackNet: check your ram with memtest86 |
| 00:55.59 | Simpsom | does anyone can point me a good documentation about racoon and racoon-tool in debian? |
| 00:56.10 | samlander | kdevelop is suggesting a sgml2html tool, does debian have that? |
| 00:56.12 | bob2 | petemc: ah, they're down to...$200 here, a friend of mien was condiering one for the same reason |
| 00:56.31 | bob2 | !+find sgml2html |
| 00:56.36 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'sgml2html' (2 shown): (/usr/bin/sgml2html) in text/linuxdoc-tools ;; (/usr/bin/{bg5sgml2html|gbsgml2html}) in text/zh-sgmltools. |
| 00:56.39 | petemc | bob2: i got mine for 100GBP, its everything i need, looks a lot better than a pc beside the tv |
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| 00:57.00 | samlander | bob2: ah! that's usefull thanks! |
| 00:57.09 | renan_ | I receive a message like that when I use apt-get : "Read error - read (5 " |
| 00:57.16 | renan_ | someone know what is this |
| 00:57.16 | renan_ | ? |
| 00:57.42 | bob2 | renan_: paste the full error to #flood |
| 00:57.45 | bob2 | samlander: np. |
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| 00:57.57 | samlander | !+find glimpse |
| 00:58.01 | bob2 | petemc: running xboxOS or linux? |
| 00:58.04 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'glimpse' (4 shown): (/usr/lib/exmh/glimpse.tcl) in mail/exmh ;; (/usr/lib/nessus/plugins/glimpse.nasl) in admin/nessus-plugins ;; (/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/w3m/shimbun/sb-glimpse.el) in web/w3m-el ;; (/usr/lib/lists-archives/glimpse.html, /usr/share/doc/lists-archives/README.glimpse, /var/lib/lists-archives/archives/glimpse.html) in web/lists-archives. |
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| 00:58.18 | samlander | bob2: i should be able to do that pm with dpkg eh? |
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| 00:58.33 | petemc | bob2: xecuter2 bios, evox bootdisc to load xbox media centre |
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| 00:58.45 | bob2 | samlander: heh, yeah |
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| 00:58.55 | bob2 | samlander: http://packages.debian.org/ wil work, too |
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| 01:00.13 | thetrooper | hello! anyone got nvnet.o compiled for 2.4.25?? |
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| 01:00.32 | davis | i am a member of many groups, how do I cvs checkin files so tht I use the non-default group? |
| 01:00.49 | davis | ie. use swdev group instead of davis, audio, etc. |
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| 01:01.08 | bob2 | make the directory g+s |
| 01:01.10 | peterS | davis: if a directory is mode 2xxx, newly created files in the directory will inherit the GID of the directory |
| 01:01.13 | bob2 | and owned by that group |
| 01:01.24 | davis | ok. many thanks. |
| 01:01.25 | bob2 | and set a decent umask |
| 01:01.42 | bob2 | also, CVS HAS THE SAME PROBLEM AS ARCH WHEN USED IN A CENTRALISED FASHION |
| 01:01.44 | bob2 | that is all |
| 01:01.55 | peterS | bob2: hehe |
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| 01:02.50 | Caelum | the oss/3d plugin for xmms is pretty cool...not as cool as EAX, but still very cool |
| 01:03.02 | Caelum | well worth the $15 |
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| 01:05.44 | abrotman | !wb ravenbird |
| 01:05.45 | dpkg | O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay! ravenbird has returned! |
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| 01:06.42 | starseed | hehe wow sweet, wine plays The incredible machine 3 |
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| 01:08.08 | starseed | hehe |
| 01:08.29 | medgno | i love that game |
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| 01:09.19 | chris__ | does anyone here actually have waproamd working? |
| 01:09.35 | jem77 | OK, My BIOS is up-t-=date |
| 01:09.54 | jem77 | I cannot format my 200GB HDD in a single partition. Is this normal? |
| 01:10.06 | chris__ | lettus wraps fucking rule... since that's on topic and all |
| 01:10.09 | starseed | medgno: got it in a 22meg rar file |
| 01:10.27 | harbichidian | Can't get X to start, gives me an error about "no screens"... what am I supposed to do about it? |
| 01:10.36 | medgno | starseed: yeah, i have the CD it came on :-) |
| 01:11.11 | jem77 | Is anyone running a very large HDD under ext2/ext3? > 120GB ? |
| 01:11.20 | chris__ | so... waproamd... no one has waproamd working? how do people normally have their wifi laptops automatically connect to their AP using the proper key? surely people don't enter the 4 lines manually each time the computer boots up... |
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| 01:11.31 | abrotman | jem77: are you having a problem? |
| 01:11.35 | abrotman | other than formatting? |
| 01:11.52 | abrotman | jem77: does fdisk see the whole drive? |
| 01:11.52 | harbichidian | (okay nevermind) |
| 01:12.04 | starseed | medgno: even better :) |
| 01:12.05 | jem77 | abrotman: It fails fsck after mkfs finishes (everything looks fine, but I cannot mount the partition) |
| 01:12.11 | samlander | bob2: dpkg is giving me confusing output for gmake |
| 01:12.13 | mwilson | chris__: It only connects to one access point... what do I need a daemon for? |
| 01:12.13 | abrotman | hmm .. fdisk |
| 01:12.14 | chris__ | well, let me try this then: what's the best way to make my laptop connect to my WAP-enabled access point when it's available? |
| 01:12.28 | starseed | sierra used to be the Sh1t |
| 01:12.29 | chris__ | mwilson: so you just script the wep key? |
| 01:12.41 | medgno | starseed: doubly agreed |
| 01:12.41 | jem77 | abrotman: If I divide the HDD into smaller partitions it works fine. However, I'd like to use a single (huge) part. |
| 01:12.43 | mwilson | "script the wep key"? |
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| 01:12.49 | abrotman | starseed: yeah .. like 15 years ago |
| 01:12.49 | chris__ | uhg |
| 01:12.55 | ac1d | anyone know if 3d is supported in debian for the radeon mobility chips? |
| 01:13.01 | abrotman | jem77: which kernel? |
| 01:13.11 | bob2 | samlander: make in Debian is gmake. |
| 01:13.18 | chris__ | mwilson: surely you know what I mean... do you have a script that runs upon bootup that enters the WEP key for your AP? |
| 01:13.21 | jem77 | 2.4.26 (I think). The default sarge |
| 01:13.28 | starseed | abrotman: my poiint exactlly, wahh happen? |
| 01:13.30 | samlander | bob2: ah k... can ignore that one then ;) |
| 01:13.36 | abrotman | starseed: they dropped the ball? |
| 01:13.45 | mwilson | chris__: No, why would I need such a thing? I define the key(s) in the interfaces file in the documented manner. |
| 01:13.47 | davis | chris__: wificonfig in wireless-tools |
| 01:13.50 | Carl_1 | Hey guys, is there anyway to install Debian with a ICH5R RAID array and no IDE drives |
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| 01:13.54 | abrotman | jem77: i think the size limit is higher than 200GB |
| 01:13.57 | starseed | people liked halflife too much and they got performace anxiety ? |
| 01:14.02 | abrotman | !special installers |
| 01:14.02 | dpkg | i heard special installers is http://www.linuxmafia.com/faq/Debian/installers.html, or http://oss.sns.ro/Hilux.html |
| 01:14.07 | abrotman | Carl_1: ^^ |
| 01:14.12 | rajesh` | Ok, I've run into big trouble with apt. |
| 01:14.13 | jem77 | abrotman: Thats good news. I wonder what the problem is. |
| 01:14.15 | abrotman | Carl_1: or try the sarge installer |
| 01:14.20 | medgno | i have a 250GB partition, for what it's worth |
| 01:14.23 | Carl_1 | Treid the sarge installer |
| 01:14.32 | chris__ | davis: thank you very much. glad to see some people here are still giving out helpful hints. |
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| 01:14.37 | rajesh` | Here's the trouble when I attempt apt-get -f install |
| 01:14.39 | LeaderOfLostSoul | hey all |
| 01:14.48 | jem77 | abrotman: this is my 2nd HDD. FWIW, here are the steps I used: |
| 01:14.53 | starseed | the 4.0 beta installer is really nice , has great hardware identification , and such |
| 01:15.00 | LeaderOfLostSoul | is there a debian based distro that has a graphical install? |
| 01:15.00 | mwilson | chris__: Yes, telling you to define the keys in the interfaces file is certainly in no way any sort of a helpful hint. |
| 01:15.09 | jem77 | abrotman: fdisk, 'n' to create a new part using the entire disk size. |
| 01:15.21 | mwilson | chris__: I should have instead told you to install yet another piece of unrelated software. |
| 01:15.29 | jem77 | abrotman: after that completes, mkfs -t ext2 -j /dev/hdc1 |
| 01:15.31 | medgno | LeaderOfLostSoul: the sarge installer, while not graphical, is fairly easy to use |
| 01:15.46 | rajesh` | Reading Package Lists... Done |
| 01:15.46 | rajesh` | Building Dependency Tree... Done |
| 01:15.46 | rajesh` | Correcting dependencies... Done |
| 01:15.46 | rajesh` | The following extra packages will be installed: |
| 01:15.46 | rajesh` | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:15.48 | abrotman | jem77: why make it ext2 with a journal .. can't you just make straight to ext3? |
| 01:15.52 | LeaderOfLostSoul | if it is text based it isn't graphical |
| 01:15.52 | jem77 | abrotman: After this step, I cannot mount the drive (manually or thru fstab) |
| 01:16.02 | chris__ | mwilson: I didn't know it was wificonfig... wificonfig is an unrelated piece of software? |
| 01:16.08 | abrotman | jem77: but it works with smaller partitions? |
| 01:16.10 | jem77 | abrotman: I didn't try that. |
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| 01:16.26 | jem77 | abrotman: yes, with smaller partitions works. |
| 01:16.28 | mwilson | chris__: What do you need whatever wificonfig is for? |
| 01:16.30 | rajesh` | Ah sorry about that dump |
| 01:16.36 | rajesh` | How can I solve this apt problem? |
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| 01:16.49 | abrotman | rajesh`: what problem? |
| 01:16.54 | medgno | LeaderOfLostSoul: true, but i'm saying that it works like a graphical one, having a curses-based interface |
| 01:16.57 | jem77 | abrotman: Let me go try ext3. BRB |
| 01:16.59 | abrotman | rajesh`: when you flood .. you get kicked . .we dont see what you see |
| 01:17.08 | rajesh` | I have an apt problem |
| 01:17.16 | mwilson | chris__: I assume there's some reason not to just define the keys in a simple manner? |
| 01:17.16 | chris__ | mwilson: to replace waproamd, which I couldn't get working.... this is for the purpose of configuring my wifi each time my computer starts |
| 01:17.33 | BlackNet | lets see if this bombs. i'm doing a manual debootstrap |
| 01:17.34 | rajesh` | abrotman: When I attempt apt-get -f install, I get some bad errors |
| 01:17.38 | chris__ | mwilson: well where could I find the documention that you speak of? |
| 01:17.49 | abrotman | rajesh`: thats what #flood is for |
| 01:17.50 | chris__ | mwilson: please forgive my slow typing speed |
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| 01:18.07 | rajesh` | Preparing to replace libgtksourceview-common 0.7.0-2 (using .../libgtksourceview-common_1.0.1-2_all.deb) ... |
| 01:18.07 | rajesh` | Unpacking replacement libgtksourceview-common ... |
| 01:18.07 | rajesh` | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libgtksourceview-common_1.0.1-2_all.deb (--unpack): |
| 01:18.07 | rajesh` | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:18.07 | rajesh` | dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) |
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| 01:18.08 | dpkg | You are moron #12, rajesh` |
| 01:18.09 | mwilson | I shoudl know better. |
| 01:18.13 | mwilson | should, even. |
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| 01:18.36 | abrotman | rajesh`: pay attention .. DONT FLOOD HERE |
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| 01:18.41 | abrotman | rajesh`: use #flood |
| 01:18.46 | chris__ | mwilson: know better than to what? |
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| 01:18.48 | rajesh` | What's #flood? |
| 01:18.53 | abrotman | another channel |
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| 01:18.59 | g4lt | mwilson what he asks is not unreasonable: the correct answer to RTFM is almost WFM |
| 01:19.11 | g4lt | almost always even :/ |
| 01:19.12 | rajesh` | abrotman: I'm trying to post my error |
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| 01:19.26 | BlackNet | looks like that worked |
| 01:19.26 | abrotman | rajesh`: and use #flood .. thats what im telling you |
| 01:19.27 | rajesh` | abrotman: How can I let you see the errors I'm getting? |
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| 01:19.34 | abrotman | rajesh`: /j #flood |
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| 01:20.14 | abrotman | rajesh`: did you check the bts? |
| 01:20.21 | abrotman | and im guessing you're running sid |
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| 01:20.33 | chris__ | mwilson: seriously... what documention are you talking about that makes this so simple? |
| 01:20.43 | chris__ | mwilson: I am, of course, aware of iwconfig |
| 01:20.45 | rajesh` | abrotman: What's bts? |
| 01:20.59 | abrotman | !bts |
| 01:21.00 | dpkg | i heard bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or anyone running unstable who's unable to check the BTS should be shot on sight. apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. sid users, apt-get install apt-listbugs |
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| 01:22.04 | g4lt | rajesh` /exec -o cat /etc/debian_version please |
| 01:22.27 | chris__ | mwilson: oh, man interfaces /does/ mention iwconfig... my bad |
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| 01:22.55 | chris__ | mwilson: fine, you where right, but you could have been helpful instead of just getting upset |
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| 01:23.14 | abrotman | g4lt: he said sid |
| 01:23.19 | rajesh` | g4lt: Unstable, SID |
| 01:23.27 | chris__ | mwilson: I suppose you're in your 3-year-old-"I'm not talking to you now because I'm mad"-mode? |
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| 01:23.37 | chris__ | suite yourself |
| 01:23.44 | abrotman | suit |
| 01:23.48 | chris__ | whoops |
| 01:23.50 | chris__ | suit too |
| 01:24.00 | abrotman | suite homonym for sweet :) |
| 01:24.00 | g4lt | rajesh` taht's not what it said, but anyway, why the hell are you running sid without knowing what the bug tracking system is? |
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| 01:25.14 | rajesh` | g4lt: SID rarely has any bugs, and I'm not even sure if this is a bug or a mistake on my part |
| 01:25.23 | abrotman | heh .. sid rarely has bugs :) |
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| 01:25.29 | abrotman | !lie |
| 01:25.30 | dpkg | abrotman, i am incapable of lying, or debian is better than knoppix |
| 01:25.39 | abrotman | how is that lying? |
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| 01:26.04 | rajesh` | g4lt: I did apt-get upgrade yesterday, and beesh.. libgtkviewsource poses problems |
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| 01:26.10 | g4lt | rajesh` SID IS NOT AN ACRONYM, IT'S A PROPER NAME |
| 01:26.17 | mwilson | Sid rarely has any bugs? Brother... what universe is HE living in ? |
| 01:26.46 | guestish | mwilson: a happy one ;) |
| 01:26.54 | vladdrak | uh |
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| 01:27.35 | mwilson | Lessee... the current xlibs breakage, the module-init-tools breakage, the capplets breakage... what else has there been recently? |
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| 01:27.47 | g4lt | mwilson curl |
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| 01:27.55 | medgno | mwilson: cupsys |
| 01:28.08 | mwilson | Yes, curl and cupsys2... forgot about those. |
| 01:28.18 | medgno | mwilson: the current qt/kde transparency breakage |
| 01:28.21 | lucas | libtiff was busted |
| 01:28.25 | robx | does anyone use debian |
| 01:28.27 | guestish | mwilson: well there has been the gnome 2.6 upgrade, the libcurl breakage |
| 01:28.39 | medgno | robx: no, we all run mandrake. |
| 01:28.39 | mwilson | Nah, Sid has certainly not had any problems recently, has it? </sarcasm> |
| 01:28.44 | guestish | robx: ... |
| 01:28.48 | Guerin | dpkg, lie =~ s/debian/knoppix/ |
| 01:28.48 | dpkg | Guerin: OK |
| 01:28.54 | guestish | sid actually isnt all that bad today |
| 01:28.56 | abrotman | !lie |
| 01:28.56 | dpkg | abrotman, i am incapable of lying, or knoppix is better than knoppix |
| 01:29.04 | guestish | lol |
| 01:29.05 | abrotman | Guerin: close :) |
| 01:29.11 | Guerin | dpkg, lie =~ s/than knoppix/than debian/ |
| 01:29.11 | dpkg | Guerin: OK |
| 01:29.11 | abrotman | you forgot the /g :) |
| 01:29.18 | Guerin | abrotman: I was getting there |
| 01:29.20 | robx | well where cani find a chan wherre people use devian? |
| 01:29.23 | robx | debiann |
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| 01:29.29 | abrotman | robx: this is such a channel |
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| 01:29.40 | patterson | is knoppix debian ? |
| 01:29.44 | guestish | patterson: no |
| 01:29.50 | tchmnkyz | it is debian based |
| 01:29.52 | guestish | robx: only about 700 people here use debian |
| 01:29.54 | Guerin | patterson: is a tomato and apple? |
| 01:29.59 | Guerin | s/and/an/ |
| 01:30.01 | patterson | just kidding |
| 01:30.04 | rox | patterson: it is a distro that is based on debian |
| 01:30.06 | Guerin | damn I' useless this morn |
| 01:30.20 | zzz | is winxp debian? |
| 01:30.20 | g4lt | guestish 699 ;P |
| 01:30.28 | g4lt | zzz die |
| 01:30.28 | guestish | g4lt: i said about ;) |
| 01:30.39 | mwilson | The best thing Knopper did was to make it harder to HD-install his live CD. |
| 01:30.39 | guestSTAR567 | i am wondering how can i change a bash var : "aFile.conf.bak" => "aFile.conf" ? the clean way without using sed . |
| 01:30.41 | harbichidian | I attempted to follow the FAQ's instructions on fixing X, I keep getting a "no screens found" error, but it won't accept "dpkg-reconfigure" |
| 01:30.50 | tchmnkyz | that is like asking if you cock is huge |
| 01:30.50 | abrotman | wont accept? |
| 01:30.59 | harbichidian | abrotman: doesn't find |
| 01:31.01 | patterson | but i think my last question was how to install sid |
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| 01:31.13 | rox | harbichidian: doesn't find what? |
| 01:31.14 | zzz | winxp is a debian release with gnome3 :) |
| 01:31.21 | harbichidian | rox: dpkg-reconfigure |
| 01:31.21 | guestish | lol |
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| 01:31.29 | rox | harbichidian: you need to run it as root |
| 01:31.32 | guestish | who is zzz? |
| 01:31.34 | harbichidian | rox: I did |
| 01:31.34 | abrotman | harbichidian: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 ? |
| 01:31.40 | patterson | next one is how to install kde 3.3 ontop of xp |
| 01:31.41 | harbichidian | abrotman: yes |
| 01:31.50 | abrotman | did you install xserver-xfree86? |
| 01:31.56 | g4lt | patterson easy: debtakeover ;P |
| 01:31.57 | harbichidian | abrotman: of course |
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| 01:32.02 | rox | harbichidian: as rot run which dpkg-reconfigure" |
| 01:32.04 | abrotman | well then you broke something |
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| 01:32.15 | harbichidian | abrotman: and I'd like to know how to fix it |
| 01:32.27 | abrotman | harbichidian: type as root 'which dpkg-reconfigure' |
| 01:32.30 | abrotman | then |
| 01:32.39 | abrotman | harbichidian: type as root 'dpkg -l xserver-xfree86' |
| 01:32.45 | rox | harbichidian: you can manually edit the config file |
| 01:33.14 | ram__ | hi all, I am not able to access one of the partitions on my HD. I was not able to mount it. I deleted and recreated the partition at the exact start and end block number. I have not tried to create an FS hoping I still have the data there. I either had ext3 or reiserfs there. Is it still possible to recover data? |
| 01:33.37 | mwilson | ram__: No. |
| 01:33.39 | abrotman | ram__: not likely |
| 01:33.53 | abrotman | you could pay someone tons of cash to do it maybe |
| 01:33.56 | ram__ | mwilson/abrotman thanks. :( |
| 01:34.03 | rox | ram__: not without some wizradry |
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| 01:34.19 | marmot | tart |
| 01:34.19 | harbichidian | rox: supposing "which dpkg-reconfigure" and "dpkg -l xserver-xfree86" don't work, where is my X config? |
| 01:34.22 | guestish | ram__: unless you are good at low level file recovery, nope |
| 01:34.52 | g4lt | harbichidian at that point, I'd want you to show us the contents of /etc/debian_version |
| 01:34.53 | abrotman | harbichidian: if they dont work .. you have a real problem |
| 01:35.03 | ram__ | mwilson/abrotman/guestish. Thanks for your quick answer. I would have spent many many hours googling for this answer. I have a back from 2 months ago. But, I had some recent digital pictures that I wish I could recover. |
| 01:35.08 | abrotman | g4lt: my debian_version says "you're fucked" |
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| 01:35.17 | samlander | g'day |
| 01:35.30 | harbichidian | out of curiosity, what will these commands be doing? |
| 01:35.40 | samlander | are there any good 3d modelers that > 3ds / swf for debian? |
| 01:35.48 | guestish | samlander: blender! |
| 01:35.55 | samlander | wonderbar |
| 01:35.58 | guestish | :) |
| 01:36.01 | abrotman | # which dpkg-reconfigure |
| 01:36.01 | abrotman | /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure |
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| 01:36.19 | samlander | guestish: does it do swf? |
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| 01:36.32 | guestish | samlander: dunno, i know it does 3d modeling |
| 01:36.33 | abrotman | dont think so |
| 01:36.42 | abrotman | but blender has quite a learning curve .. but it is good |
| 01:36.47 | samlander | guestish: COOL... i like the interface already |
| 01:36.48 | ram__ | rox: thanks. |
| 01:36.54 | guestish | samlander: :) |
| 01:37.07 | abrotman | samlander: if you're bored .. PHP has extensions to make flash |
| 01:37.13 | rox | harbichidian: what does the following command do "cat /etc/debian_version" |
| 01:37.25 | harbichidian | rox: help if Iw as in Debian, I'll get back to you |
| 01:37.29 | harbichidian | *if |
| 01:37.42 | harbichidian | **I was |
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| 01:38.33 | abrotman | wtf was that |
| 01:38.38 | abrotman | hes not in debian? |
| 01:38.44 | abrotman | and we're asking him to do which? |
| 01:38.47 | abrotman | err `which` |
| 01:39.03 | rox | abrotman: i suspected so ... no dpkg-reconfigure, no dpkg ... |
| 01:39.14 | deego` | hi |
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| 01:39.23 | abrotman | well no freakin duh :) |
| 01:39.45 | deego` | the debian terminal-based menus when installing packages, etc. -- wasn't there a package which allows one easy commandline scripts to use similar menus -- can't remember the name any more :(, any idea? |
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| 01:40.18 | bob2 | dialog? |
| 01:40.23 | bob2 | whiptail? |
| 01:40.28 | rox | deego`: newt? |
| 01:40.33 | r00t | deego`: dialog? |
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| 01:41.23 | deego` | thanks bob2, rox, r00t |
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| 01:43.32 | dan2 | bob2: hey |
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| 01:43.49 | dan2 | bob2: How to Program C++ by Deitel and Deitel <----- Great C++ book |
| 01:43.51 | yugiohjcj | how can I decompress archiv *.bz ??? |
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| 01:44.00 | yugiohjcj | (sorri I'm french!) |
| 01:44.05 | dan2 | bob2: its 1300 pages long |
| 01:44.07 | abrotman | bunzip |
| 01:44.10 | abrotman | err bunzip2 |
| 01:44.23 | yugiohjcj | tar don't go with .bz ? |
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| 01:44.43 | abrotman | tar - .. hmm -jxf maybe |
| 01:44.46 | abrotman | man tar |
| 01:44.52 | no0b | whats the command to find what version you're using |
| 01:44.56 | vladdrak | jxf if right |
| 01:44.57 | yugiohjcj | I will try thanks |
| 01:44.58 | g4lt | dan2 tolerable, but horribly convoluted |
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| 01:45.04 | vladdrak | err is right |
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| 01:45.11 | abrotman | no0b: version of what? |
| 01:45.20 | no0b | debian |
| 01:45.29 | dan2 | g4lt: you didn't like it? |
| 01:45.31 | abrotman | cat /etc/debian_version |
| 01:45.44 | dan2 | !dict convoluted |
| 01:45.46 | bob2 | dan2: hm, very long |
| 01:45.46 | dpkg | Dictionary 'convoluted' (4 shown; 5 total): beaks recurved and convoluted like a ram's horn. --Pennant. ;; 2. Folded in tortuous windings. ;; Convoluted \Con"vo*lu`ted\, a. 1. Having convolutions. ;; rolled or coiled together; "a convoluted shell". |
| 01:45.58 | g4lt | dan2 it was part of a Class From Hell |
| 01:46.01 | abrotman | yeah ..that worked |
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| 01:46.07 | dan2 | g4lt: oh |
| 01:46.29 | abrotman | when did it get past 930? |
| 01:46.36 | no0b | abrotman: is there a more drawn out one (it just says testing/unstable) i'm want to add distro version to a karamba theme |
| 01:46.37 | no0b | ... |
| 01:46.56 | bob2 | abrotman: about 2 hours ago, it's 1146 now |
| 01:46.58 | bob2 | no0b: no |
| 01:47.04 | no0b | hrmm thnx |
| 01:47.08 | abrotman | no0b: you could find out based on package versions |
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| 01:47.19 | yugiohjcj | I must to install bzip2 to decompress .gz ...I think... |
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| 01:47.23 | skorpfox | hello peoples |
| 01:47.24 | abrotman | no |
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| 01:47.30 | rajesh` | !dic beseech |
| 01:47.33 | abrotman | yugiohjcj: gz is gzip .. gz is bunzip2 |
| 01:47.48 | yugiohjcj | ok |
| 01:47.52 | rajesh` | !dict beseech |
| 01:47.54 | dpkg | Dictionary 'beseech' (1 shown; 6 total): Usage: To Beseech, Entreat, Solicit, Implore, Supplicate. These words agree in marking that sense of want which leads men to beg some favor. To solicit is to make a request, with some degree of earnestness and repetition, of one whom we address as a superior. To entreat implies greater urgency, usually enforced by adducing reasons or arguments. To beseech is still stronger, and belongs rather to the language of poetry an |
| 01:47.54 | dpkg | re denotes increased fervor of entreaty, as addressed either to equals or superiors. To supplicate expresses the extreme of entreaty, and usually implies a state of deep humiliation. Thus, a captive supplicates a conqueror to spare his life. Men solicit by virtue of their interest with another; they entreat in the use of reasoning and strong representations; they beseech with importunate earnestness; they implore from a sense of overwhelming distress; they supp |
| 01:47.56 | dpkg | e most absolute inferiority and dependence.. |
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| 01:48.12 | rajesh` | !dpkg thanks |
| 01:48.12 | dpkg | de nada, rajesh` |
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| 01:48.33 | abrotman | !karamba |
| 01:48.46 | guestish | ay karamba... |
| 01:48.51 | bob2 | rajesh`: keep that in /msg |
| 01:48.55 | abrotman | must not be scottish |
| 01:48.56 | bob2 | abrotman: it's the KDE clone of gdesklets. |
| 01:49.10 | abrotman | ah .. yes .. not scottish .. crap :) |
| 01:49.26 | yugiohjcj | I make gzip -d Pacjages.gz and who is the file uncompressed ??? |
| 01:49.26 | rajesh` | bob2: What's /msg? |
| 01:49.55 | abrotman | !tell rajesh` about msg |
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| 01:50.05 | rajesh` | abrotman: thanks |
| 01:50.15 | yugiohjcj | I don't find it in the folder who I am now |
| 01:50.19 | bob2 | yugiohjcj: what are you *actually* trying to do? |
| 01:50.24 | rajesh` | !tell rajesh` about msg |
| 01:50.27 | abrotman | im confused |
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| 01:50.36 | yugiohjcj | I try to uncompress a file Packages.gz |
| 01:50.38 | rajesh` | !tell rajesh` about /msg |
| 01:50.44 | FarrisG | anybody brave enough to help me with a weird grub/dualboot problem? |
| 01:50.47 | abrotman | yugiohjcj: zless Packages.gz |
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| 01:51.03 | abrotman | !tell rajesh` about hold |
| 01:51.06 | bob2 | yugiohjcj: gunzip Packages.gz |
| 01:51.16 | bob2 | but *why* are you doing that to begin with? |
| 01:51.26 | guestish | bob2: you should have chanserv message people the ask factoid as soon as they join... |
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| 01:51.38 | abrotman | yugiohjcj: most mirrors have a regular Packages file |
| 01:51.41 | hacim | laptop drive was going south so I tried mapping out bad sectors, lost power, rebooted, now the drive cannot be mounted, but I need something from it, can I dd out parts and try and find it somehow? |
| 01:52.03 | abrotman | !tell rajesh` about hold |
| 01:52.24 | yugiohjcj | OUPS I HAVE MAKE gzip -d Packages.gz and know I have a file Package without the extension .gz !!! |
| 01:52.24 | guestish | !tell FarrisG about ask |
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| 01:52.38 | bob2 | ees |
| 01:52.45 | bob2 | !aolify yugiohjcj |
| 01:53.05 | abrotman | heh |
| 01:53.12 | guestish | aolify... |
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| 01:54.42 | FarrisG | I have a dell OptiplexGX260 with a Phoenix BIOS that will not let me choose which harddrive to boot first. I'm trying to setup grub to boot my WinXP drive, which is second. I do not want to install Grub on the MBR of my XP drive, and I want my debian drive to be first. |
| 01:55.07 | FarrisG | Many moons ago, I faked Windows into thinking it was hd0 by changing the device.map file, but it doesn't seem to be working now |
| 01:55.08 | rajesh` | !tell rajesh` about ask |
| 01:55.16 | bob2 | good god |
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| 01:55.18 | bob2 | rajesh`: stop it |
| 01:55.36 | abrotman | FarrisG: so take them out .. most BIOSes dont allow you to pick which drive .. its the first HDD it finds |
| 01:55.36 | bob2 | petemc: do you run any dell 1ru machines? |
| 01:55.52 | cafuego | FarrisG: Swap the drives, install grub to the debian drive, add a grub boorsector entry into your windows boot.ini as per the WIndows NT Dual Boot HOWTO |
| 01:55.59 | r00t | actually most newer bioses do |
| 01:55.59 | Caelum | how do you get the current position of a window in X? |
| 01:56.14 | r00t | Caelum: xwininfo? |
| 01:56.33 | rajesh` | bob2: stop what? |
| 01:56.39 | Caelum | r00t: beautiful, thank you |
| 01:56.46 | cafuego | rajesh`: spamming |
| 01:56.54 | dan2 | bob2: everybody seems to hate it, revoke my reccomendation |
| 01:56.57 | FarrisG | cafuego: I have never been successful at installing a linux boot sector into the boot.ini |
| 01:56.58 | cafuego | rajesh`: '/msg dpkg help' if you need to chat with the bot. |
| 01:57.05 | petemc | bob2: 2650s mostly, 2u |
| 01:57.07 | cafuego | FarrisG: it's exceedingly easy. |
| 01:57.15 | Grant_ | what package is "dig" in? |
| 01:57.16 | abrotman | rajesh`: type this "/msg dpkg ask" |
| 01:57.17 | bob2 | dan2: hah |
| 01:57.22 | bob2 | !+find bin/dig |
| 01:57.23 | cafuego | FarrisG: Install grub to the boot sector on the debian drive, then pick it out with 'dd' |
| 01:57.25 | abrotman | !tell Grant_ about search |
| 01:57.27 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bin/dig' (7 shown; 8 total): (/usr/bin/digestp) in text/mp ;; (/usr/bin/dig) in net/dnsutils ;; (/var/list/.bin/digest) in mail/smartlist ;; (/usr/bin/digestify) in non-free/mail/mush ;; (/usr/bin/digikamdcrawclient) in graphics/digikamplugins ;; (/usr/share/tomcat4/bin/digest.sh) in contrib/web/tomcat4 ;; (/usr/bin/{digikam|digikamcameraclient}) in graphics/digikam. |
| 01:57.27 | dan2 | bob2: dnsutils |
| 01:57.27 | FarrisG | abrotman: This is actually the first BIOS I've seen in a long while that wouldn't allow me to choose which HDD was the first boot device |
| 01:57.33 | bob2 | smooth |
| 01:57.46 | bob2 | dan2: I thought you ere an objective C weenie now anyway |
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| 01:57.54 | cafuego | FarrisG: Copy it to windows, add in a 'C:\bootsec.img' target |
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| 01:57.56 | abrotman | FarrisG: get a little older .. you'll see more than you want |
| 01:58.03 | cafuego | FarrisG: I have it here. |
| 01:58.08 | dan2 | bob2: I am, but I need to work on some C++ projects so its best to know more! :) |
| 01:58.17 | bob2 | petemc: ah, apparently I'll be looking after some 1ru xeon dell now |
| 01:58.22 | FarrisG | abrotman: Gee, thanks. |
| 01:58.30 | dan2 | bob2: objc is real fun to program in |
| 01:58.32 | valeriyk | What is the latest version of debian? |
| 01:58.34 | cafuego | FarrisG: In addition I have a winxp target on my grub cfg, so I can flip between the boot loaders at startup until I see blue in the face. (about 3 minutes) |
| 01:58.41 | FarrisG | cafuego: Thanks, very informative, I'll check it out |
| 01:58.44 | g4lt | bob2 dude! you're going through hell! ;P |
| 01:58.45 | valeriyk | I cant download any packages from woody because it doesnt see my nic |
| 01:58.47 | petemc | bob2: they're not bad machines, perc3 has a bad rap but unless you're under really heavy load its fine |
| 01:58.49 | bob2 | valeriyk: 3.0 |
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| 01:58.58 | dan2 | g4lt: what book would you reccomend for C++ |
| 01:59.04 | cafuego | bob2: Incidentally, I got a dedicated server in .au ... brisbane mob called OzServers. |
| 01:59.14 | abrotman | bob2: if you're lucky .. you'll get CERC |
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| 01:59.18 | bob2 | cafuego: ah, we're getting it at colo.com.au |
| 01:59.26 | no0b | whats a good virus scanner for ppc deb |
| 01:59.27 | abrotman | bob2: sorry .. forgot the sarcasm tags |
| 01:59.27 | g4lt | dan2 Schildt |
| 01:59.29 | cafuego | bob2: What do colo.com.au charge? |
| 01:59.35 | dan2 | g4lt: whats the ISBN |
| 01:59.44 | g4lt | dan2 wait one... |
| 01:59.46 | bob2 | petemc: hmmm...do they need a custom kernel or anything? |
| 01:59.48 | dan2 | g4lt: thanks |
| 02:00.09 | g4lt | dan2 0-07-881654-8 |
| 02:00.19 | petemc | bob2: nah, any recent kernel should be all good |
| 02:00.26 | dan2 | g4lt: great |
| 02:00.26 | bob2 | yay |
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| 02:01.34 | bob2 | cafuego: $135/month, 50GB |
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| 02:01.38 | bob2 | which isn't terrible |
| 02:02.10 | bob2 | Linux Administrator - $66/hr |
| 02:02.11 | pixelmonkey_ | I'm setting up a local bugzilla for a project I'm working on with a few friends. I'm wondering if anyone here has experiencing administering a bugzilla... I don't know where to look to add categories of bugs and such things...? (mainly been a bugzilla _user_ my whole life, not admin) |
| 02:02.11 | bob2 | Windows Administrator - $77/hr |
| 02:02.16 | bob2 | HAHA WINDOWS TCO |
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| 02:02.23 | abrotman | i dont make enough apparently .. |
| 02:02.30 | abrotman | bob2: if you do both .. do you get 66+77? |
| 02:02.40 | bob2 | goddam dog |
| 02:02.53 | rox | bob2: erm .. why is windows administrator paid more then linux administrator? |
| 02:03.14 | hacim | anyone know how to pull data off a drive whose partition is hosed? |
| 02:03.18 | timzter | If my shell script X calls another script Y, what can I do to ensure that if I hit Ctrl-C to stop script X, that script Y will be stopped too? |
| 02:03.22 | marmot | rox patch patch patch |
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| 02:03.30 | g4lt | hacim TCT |
| 02:03.41 | rajesh` | rox: That's because Windows has more number of characters than linux |
| 02:03.47 | g4lt | hacim grave-robber to be precise |
| 02:03.53 | hacim | g4lt: TCT? eh? |
| 02:03.54 | rajesh` | rox: And Windows is harder to pronounce, and hard on the lower tongue |
| 02:03.56 | harbichidian | okay, X still won't start |
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| 02:04.03 | g4lt | rajesh` now you're just talking shit |
| 02:04.05 | dan2 | g4lt: accu.org gave it a bad review |
| 02:04.10 | abrotman | harbichidian: and which version of debian are you running? |
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| 02:04.15 | woosky | who can tell me what's the difference between poll() and select()? |
| 02:04.16 | harbichidian | abrotman: Woody |
| 02:04.20 | g4lt | dan2 <shrug> I liked it |
| 02:04.26 | bob2 | rox: I don't know |
| 02:04.30 | dan2 | g4lt: http://accu.org/cgi-bin/accu/rvout.cgi?from=0ti_cp&file=cp000413a |
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| 02:04.35 | abrotman | harbichidian: and your video card is? |
| 02:04.36 | g4lt | woosky #c might |
| 02:04.39 | dan2 | g4lt: I thought Deity's latest book was good too |
| 02:04.51 | bob2 | haha |
| 02:04.53 | dan2 | Deitel even |
| 02:04.56 | harbichidian | abrotman: I get a "can't open APM" error, and then a whole list of "can't open mode" errors |
| 02:05.06 | harbichidian | abrotman: geforce4 |
| 02:05.27 | abrotman | dan2: i have 3 of those C++ books from deitel |
| 02:05.36 | abrotman | harbichidian: yeah .. like no frickin crap |
| 02:05.36 | bob2 | woosky: similar purposes, different performance |
| 02:05.39 | abrotman | #nvidia |
| 02:05.39 | dan2 | abrotman: they good? |
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| 02:05.49 | TasteOfDeath | Hi there! Is the debconf 1.4.28 in testing fucked? dpkg is returning: Sorry: TypeError: ('compile() expected string without null bytes',) |
| 02:05.55 | rajesh` | abrotman: Do you have any clue as to when mysql 4.1 will enter SID? |
| 02:05.57 | abrotman | dan2: didn't read them .. class books in college .. good prof .. books were worthless :) |
| 02:05.58 | woosky | what's the difference? |
| 02:06.03 | dan2 | g4lt: they gave all of his books bad reviews |
| 02:06.06 | woosky | and why? |
| 02:06.07 | abrotman | rajesh`: i think mysql is crap . and dont follow it |
| 02:06.13 | abrotman | !info mysql-common |
| 02:06.18 | dpkg | mysql-common: (mysql database common files (e.g. /etc/mysql/my.cnf)), section misc, is optional. Version: 4.0.20-2 (sid), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 80 kB |
| 02:06.18 | rajesh` | abrotman: What should I then? |
| 02:06.23 | g4lt | I swear, I'm going to kill the next person that types Sid IN ALL CAPS |
| 02:06.27 | abrotman | rajesh`: i prefer postgres .. |
| 02:06.32 | rajesh` | g4lt: Why? |
| 02:06.37 | g4lt | !sid |
| 02:06.37 | dpkg | methinks sid is the unstable version of Debian. Commonly [and wrongly] backronymmed Still In Development. It's actually named for the destructive neighbor kid in Toy Story. Ask me about unstable. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. <g4lt> THERE IS NO OFFICIAL WAY TO INSTALL SID, FOR THE BILLIONTH TIME |
| 02:06.39 | abrotman | g4lt: why .. whats wrong with SID |
| 02:06.40 | abrotman | ? |
| 02:06.48 | rajesh` | abrotman: postgres is also good, but I use both |
| 02:06.50 | g4lt | notice the wrongly backronymmed |
| 02:07.09 | dan2 | axe |
| 02:07.22 | Grant_ | That still didnt explain what package DIG was in and i dont recommend apt-cache search dig because that results in about 100 packages been shown. |
| 02:07.28 | abrotman | holy crap |
| 02:07.30 | abrotman | !find dig |
| 02:07.32 | dpkg | Debian Package Listing of 'dig' (15 shown; 18 total): aprsdigi ;; digikam ;; digikamplugins ;; digitaldj ;; happydigger ;; htdig ;; htdig-doc ;; libcommons-digester-java ;; libdigest-hmac-perl ;; libdigest-md2-perl ;; libdigest-md4-perl ;; libdigest-nilsimsa-perl ;; libdigest-perl ;; libdigest-sha1-perl ;; libsasl-digestmd5. |
| 02:07.37 | Grant_ | Yeah which package? |
| 02:07.41 | abrotman | !search dig |
| 02:07.48 | abrotman | its like dnsutils or something |
| 02:07.49 | dan2 | g4lt: <CrewdenX> mlh: he likes to use void main a lot in his examples. |
| 02:07.50 | abrotman | use apt-file |
| 02:07.50 | bob2 | Grant_: duh, yes it did |
| 02:08.00 | bob2 | Grant_: read the fucking output. it's in dnsutils. |
| 02:08.01 | abrotman | !+find bin/dig |
| 02:08.06 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bin/dig' (7 shown; 8 total): (/usr/bin/digestp) in text/mp ;; (/usr/bin/dig) in net/dnsutils ;; (/var/list/.bin/digest) in mail/smartlist ;; (/usr/bin/digestify) in non-free/mail/mush ;; (/usr/bin/digikamdcrawclient) in graphics/digikamplugins ;; (/usr/share/tomcat4/bin/digest.sh) in contrib/web/tomcat4 ;; (/usr/bin/{digikam|digikamcameraclient}) in graphics/digikam. |
| 02:08.13 | abrotman | Grant_: its the first one |
| 02:08.20 | g4lt | Grant_ what part of dnsutils is escapaing your pinheaded notice |
| 02:08.21 | rajesh` | abrotman: How do I run packages from `experimental' on my box? |
| 02:08.25 | abrotman | er second |
| 02:08.31 | abrotman | rajesh`: no way .. im not helping you in that mess :) |
| 02:08.38 | abrotman | !tell rajesh` about experimental |
| 02:08.45 | abrotman | and thats the end of my involvement |
| 02:08.49 | rajesh` | abrotman: I need to install just a few packagaes, like mysql |
| 02:08.56 | abrotman | rajesh`: trust me .. you dont |
| 02:08.59 | g4lt | dan2 since void was introduced long before Sorudstroup, it's VERY legal |
| 02:09.01 | abrotman | its not worth it |
| 02:09.08 | rajesh` | abrotman: Why not? |
| 02:09.17 | rajesh` | abormtan: What should I put in my sources file? |
| 02:09.26 | rajesh` | <rajesh`> abormtan: What should I put in my sources file?ERC> abrotman: can you copy |
| 02:09.37 | Eclipser | what version of cdrecord supports non-SCSI writing? |
| 02:09.38 | dan2 | g4lt: haha |
| 02:09.42 | abrotman | rajesh`: im really not helping .. its a headache for some of the stuff .. its called experimental .. because shit breaks all the damn time |
| 02:09.52 | rajesh` | abrotman: can you copy+paste the output of tell rajesh about experimental? |
| 02:10.08 | g4lt | rajesh` you can't even do the job of a sid user, and you want to take on the additional responsibilites of an experimental user? |
| 02:10.08 | abrotman | rajesh`: not in here |
| 02:10.11 | abrotman | but dpkg told you |
| 02:10.13 | cafuego | *whee* |
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| 02:10.32 | abrotman | yep .. still sunday |
| 02:10.35 | cafuego | I got an IT teacher mailing me coz she just swithced to Linux and wants gnupg in mutt :-) |
| 02:10.45 | rajesh` | abrotman: Ok do it at #flood |
| 02:10.53 | abrotman | there |
| 02:10.58 | g4lt | cafuego pgp4pine ;P |
| 02:11.05 | abrotman | rajesh`: which irc client are you using? |
| 02:11.05 | cafuego | g4lt: Nah |
| 02:11.14 | harbichidian | abrotman: nobody seems to be alive in #nvidia |
| 02:11.29 | rajesh` | abrotman: emacs, becuase my graphical interface is broken |
| 02:11.33 | cafuego | harbichidian: they're all busily compiling their drivers |
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| 02:11.35 | abrotman | harbichidian: i have no idea how to make nvidia stuff owrk in woody .. but im guessing your card isn't supported by default |
| 02:11.49 | harbichidian | cafuego: and why might that be? |
| 02:11.55 | abrotman | rajesh`: your client should have some way to swtich windows .. so that when dpkg tells you stuff .. you sohuld be able to read it |
| 02:11.58 | bob2 | Eclipser: the one in sid and sarge |
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| 02:12.06 | cafuego | abrotman: Woody's XF4 supports up to and including the GF2, I think. |
| 02:12.16 | abrotman | he has GF4 i think he said |
| 02:12.22 | harbichidian | cayup |
| 02:12.24 | harbichidian | ? |
| 02:12.25 | harbichidian | yup |
| 02:12.28 | bob2 | hm, 60 lag |
| 02:12.29 | cafuego | harbichidian: That's coz they made a bad decision when they bought their hardware, |
| 02:12.55 | harbichidian | cafuego: okay, I'd love to hear about how nvidia made a horrible mistake, I really would, but right now I just want it to work |
| 02:13.07 | abrotman | do the nvidia debs work? |
| 02:13.16 | cafuego | harbichidian: I can't help you with that, I don't support closed source products. |
| 02:13.18 | harbichidian | little tenst |
| 02:13.21 | harbichidian | *tense |
| 02:13.45 | harbichidian | cafuego: okay, why would they need to recompile drivers? |
| 02:14.16 | skorpfox | anyone stretched an LCD in X before? |
| 02:14.28 | g4lt | !qotd15 is <abrotman> rajesh`: which irc client are you using? <rajesh`> abrotman: emacs, becuase my graphical interface is broken |
| 02:14.28 | dpkg | ...but qotd15 is already something else... |
| 02:14.32 | cafuego | harbichidian: Because the bundled one doesn't support anything over a geforce2 and even then only in 2D mode. |
| 02:14.33 | abrotman | its soooo frickin sunday |
| 02:14.38 | g4lt | !qotd16 is <abrotman> rajesh`: which irc client are you using? <rajesh`> abrotman: emacs, becuase my graphical interface is broken |
| 02:14.38 | dpkg | okay, g4lt |
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| 02:14.49 | abrotman | g4lt: 15 and 16? |
| 02:14.52 | abrotman | oh |
| 02:14.54 | abrotman | i missed that |
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| 02:15.26 | harbichidian | cafuego: ah, that kinda sucks... you know of drivers that do work? |
| 02:15.28 | cafuego | harbichidian: So what you need is the source for the driver, which includes a precompiled-by-nvidia library, which is not GPL. |
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| 02:15.42 | cafuego | harbichidian: apt-cache search nvidia; get the kernel and glx packages. |
| 02:15.45 | dan2 | g4lt: I think Ill just buy stroupstrup and effective c++ and be done with this |
| 02:15.46 | dan2 | :) |
| 02:15.52 | guestish | !qotd15 |
| 02:15.53 | dpkg | i heard qotd15 is <carrett> xine can use just as many codecs as xine, right? |
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| 02:16.17 | abrotman | dan2: that strousstroup book is good(assuming you mean the big one) |
| 02:16.21 | abrotman | and so is effective |
| 02:16.24 | dan2 | bob2: effective c++ by meyers looked like a good book |
| 02:16.27 | g4lt | gah |
| 02:16.36 | dan2 | abrotman: bob2 pointed me to effective c++ |
| 02:16.37 | abrotman | dan2: theres another good one . similiar title to effective |
| 02:16.45 | g4lt | you mena I almost stepped on myself on qotdN? |
| 02:16.49 | cafuego | dan2: it's a c++ book, it *can't* be good unles sit's a single page that says 'See C'. |
| 02:16.49 | dan2 | abrotman: more effective c++ by meyers :) |
| 02:16.59 | abrotman | i think its another |
| 02:17.07 | abrotman | dan2: i shold just send you all my C++ books :) |
| 02:17.19 | abrotman | dan2: i even have one by a guy who teaches at PSU/Berks |
| 02:17.19 | dan2 | abrotman: no need, you live with in 30 miles |
| 02:17.25 | dan2 | abrotman: 30 minutes even |
| 02:17.37 | abrotman | dan2: ive got cobol books too :) |
| 02:17.38 | sharth | if i increse $COLUMNS to 150, dpkg -l is supposed to increase the width of the columns to use that space. it works when i run "dpkg -l" but doesn't when i run "dpkg -l > blah" any help? |
| 02:17.50 | dan2 | abrotman: how much do you want for your collection of C++ books |
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| 02:18.05 | rajesh` | So what is the purpose of /etc/apt/preferences? |
| 02:18.05 | abrotman | dan2: i can recommend a book that i liked .. dont know how others feel about it thoguh |
| 02:18.06 | mwilson | sharth: It works, you're just not sending the output to STDOUT. |
| 02:18.08 | abrotman | sec while i find it |
| 02:18.17 | rajesh` | abrotman: I'm currently not even using it |
| 02:18.17 | g4lt | sharth file redirection is COLUMS-agnostic |
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| 02:18.32 | abrotman | rajesh`: using what? |
| 02:19.08 | rajesh` | abrotman: /etc/apt/preferences, what can I put here? |
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| 02:19.56 | abrotman | rajesh`: i told you .. im not helping .. then ill get blamed :) |
| 02:20.06 | abrotman | rajesh`: it can do very bad things |
| 02:20.08 | eolson | hi, i'm new to debian and i'm trying to install mplayer from the http://marillat.free.fr/ apt source, it seems to be down, is this just a temporary problem? |
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| 02:20.22 | eolson | or are there other sources for mplayer? |
| 02:20.23 | dan2 | cafuego: K&R C book was good |
| 02:20.24 | rajesh` | abrotman: You mean apt/preferences can do bad things? |
| 02:20.24 | avu | rajesh`: man 5 apt_preferences |
| 02:20.36 | abrotman | dan2: http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbninquiry.asp?ISBN=0669292206&userid=UN320a3oZ7&cds2Pid=946&pdf=y |
| 02:20.36 | mwilson | eolson: What marillat.free.fr source? mplayer hasn't been there for months. |
| 02:20.39 | rajesh` | abrotman: So its got something to do with experimental? |
| 02:20.41 | abrotman | dan2: if you could find a copy that is |
| 02:20.51 | abrotman | rajesh`: i mean experimental can do bad things |
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| 02:21.00 | abrotman | dan2: but i really really liked that book |
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| 02:21.13 | dan2 | abrotman: its really old and doesn't meet current standards |
| 02:21.17 | abrotman | dan2: but i really got into data structures |
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| 02:21.31 | abrotman | dan2: its the ideas .. ideas are better than specific examples |
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