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| 00:00.07 | illumen | yello |
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| 00:00.38 | n6tadam | illumen: depends who you ask. |
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| 00:02.07 | kzin | java&mozilla question: is there a way to get a mozilla java plugin working without resorting to non-free software? the bot seems to know no other way. |
| 00:02.33 | n6tadam | kzin: what do you mean? |
| 00:02.36 | kzin | i got kaffe installed, but no debian package admits to have the plugin so file. |
| 00:02.46 | kzin | sb plugin .so file |
| 00:02.52 | n6tadam | ah right. |
| 00:02.57 | mtimony | kzin: is the blackdown port non-free or free? |
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| 00:03.41 | kzin | i don't know. it's not in sid... |
| 00:04.00 | n6tadam | what isn't? |
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| 00:04.21 | Syntax | does linux have support for apc ups network shutdown? |
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| 00:04.30 | kzin | kaffe's free and is in sid. i don't know if blackdown is free, and apt-cache search can find no trace of it under sid. |
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| 00:04.42 | mtimony | kzin; hold on a sec |
| 00:04.49 | sussudio | Syntax: yes, it does. |
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| 00:05.08 | sussudio | !tell Syntax about search |
| 00:05.14 | sussudio | !info apcupsd |
| 00:05.16 | dpkg | apcupsd: (APC UPS Power Management), section admin, is extra. Version: 3.10.13-4 (sid), Packaged size: 318 kB, Installed size: 1116 kB |
| 00:05.30 | mtimony | kzin: http://blackdown.org/java-linux/java2-status/index.html I'm not sure if it's non free or not, but I thinks it's a open implementation |
| 00:05.31 | sussudio | kzin: god isn't apt-gettable |
| 00:05.33 | joshk | :? |
| 00:05.35 | n6tadam | fun. |
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| 00:05.44 | joshk | no one's used debmirror? bleh |
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| 00:05.45 | kzin | sussdio: yup |
| 00:06.23 | n6tadam | heh. |
| 00:06.27 | illumen | n6tadam: true |
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| 00:06.56 | Syntax | sussudio: ty |
| 00:07.08 | n6tadam | ? |
| 00:07.14 | mtimony | kzin: it can be apt-getted but not from deb archive |
| 00:07.26 | kzin | mtimoney: really? do tell... |
| 00:07.43 | kzin | i'm suprised it isn't, btw. i'd expect it to be one of the most used packages |
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| 00:07.59 | n6tadam | kzin: That's not always logical. |
| 00:08.06 | kzin | yah... |
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| 00:08.26 | mtimony | kzin: givvme a sec |
| 00:08.27 | kzin | policy issues... compatibilty... license flamewar stalemate... can't tell |
| 00:08.47 | snowrichard | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:09.02 | snowrichard | darn cat. |
| 00:09.43 | n6tadam | ? |
| 00:09.55 | mtimony | kzin: deb ftp://ftp.tux.org/pub/java/debian unstable main non-free |
| 00:10.01 | snowrichard | my kitten on the keys |
| 00:10.19 | kzin | thanks |
| 00:10.35 | Syntax | sussudio: is that apc ups thing in the powstatd package? |
| 00:10.50 | kzin | updating... |
| 00:10.51 | mtimony | kzin: i thinks that for blackdown, is what i have in my sources.list |
| 00:11.08 | n6tadam | heh |
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| 00:11.50 | mtimony | kzin or U might need this to get a version compiled with gcc 3.2: deb http://jrfonseca.dyndns.org/debian . |
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| 00:12.14 | mtimony | kzin: i have them both commented out so I'm not banging on their servers every time I apt-get |
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| 00:12.58 | mtimony | kzin: so i forget which one i used last :) |
| 00:13.03 | kzin | ah :) |
| 00:13.06 | kzin | will add |
| 00:13.06 | kzin | thanks |
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| 00:13.31 | kzin | i wonder if i should remove kaffe first... |
| 00:13.47 | mtimony | kzin: i think U can leave it, just install the jre. |
| 00:14.48 | kzin | darnit, they're on a modem. 12kbps. well, thanks tim. i'll go take a showe, will come back in 15min, see if it works. see ya :) |
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| 00:15.38 | mtimony | kzin: i think it some lads dsl line ... |
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| 00:19.34 | yeamon | Can someone help? I can't get my audigy sound card to work. |
| 00:19.37 | MdG | shouldn't 'telinit 3' shut down my xserver? (on sarge). |
| 00:19.45 | Zap-W | can anyone suggest on a Webmail http based interface to work along with my ~/Maildir |
| 00:20.06 | idnar | MdG: not by default, no |