| 00:00.10 | Zap-W | what's the point of shutting down the HD in a reboot |
| 00:00.17 | naim | !kde |
| 00:00.17 | dpkg | hmm... kde is a desktop enviroment based on the Qt toolkit. The latest stable release appears to be 3.2.1. See http://www.kde.org for release news and other details. for woody check out http://www.apt-get.org/ |
| 00:00.19 | psycho666 | the read-protection on the directory is only against listing ? |
| 00:00.29 | mentor | ~gnome 2.6 is (as of June 27) apparently working now in both sid and sarge. Try installing gstreamer0.8 for sound/multimedia problems. |
| 00:00.30 | apt | mentor: okay |
| 00:00.30 | mentor | !no gnome 2.6 is (as of June 27) apparently working now in both sid and sarge. Try installing gstreamer0.8 for sound/multimedia problems. |
| 00:00.30 | dpkg | mentor: okay |
| 00:00.30 | naim | is kde broken in unstable ?? |
| 00:00.31 | dlight | someone knows why rmdir gives "directory not empty" even when there is nothing inside? |
| 00:00.33 | mentor | ~hi |
| 00:00.34 | apt | hello, mentor |
| 00:00.40 | Zap-W | !bananas |
| 00:00.54 | mickeyks | dlight: hidden files? |
| 00:01.01 | dlight | ls -al shows nothing |
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| 00:01.28 | dlight | im suspecting fs errors but i wanted to know if any of you got suggestions |
| 00:01.29 | psycho666 | bluefox83: the read-protection on the directory is only against listing ? |
| 00:01.38 | naim | dlight, just use rm -r dir |
| 00:01.42 | psycho666 | dlight: i got the same problem :) |
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| 00:01.58 | kingsley | bluefox83: Did you search both archives? |
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| 00:02.22 | bluefox83 | kingsley, i searched google..i dunno where the other one is.. |
| 00:02.22 | blubaustin | hello |
| 00:02.31 | dlight | naim: same err |
| 00:02.43 | blubaustin | I really need help w/ my knopppix z |
| 00:02.47 | dlight | lucky you psycho666 :p |
| 00:02.48 | blubaustin | system* |
| 00:02.53 | mentor | blubaustin: topic. |
| 00:03.09 | ac1d | anyone know how to actually make use of hardware buttons |
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| 00:03.19 | ac1d | ie ones that dont have key codes |
| 00:03.20 | mentor | ac1d: Press them? |
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| 00:03.25 | mentor | oh. |
| 00:03.29 | ac1d | :P |
| 00:03.59 | blubaustin | well isn't knoppix based on debian? |
| 00:04.22 | kingsley | bluefox83: Google maintains several indices. Their web and usenet indices have the most technical information. Their web index is at http://www.google.com/advanced_search and their usenet index is at http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search. I recommend searching both. |
| 00:04.31 | ac1d | anyone know? |
| 00:04.36 | bluefox83 | ooooh... |
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| 00:04.50 | \zxc | I'm trying to install debian... I've mounted the root filesystem and I'm about to 'Install kernel and driver modules'... However it asks me for the medium I will use to install the system. When I select cdrom, it asks me to place the first debian cd in cdrom (I have the 'vanilla' disk) It then tells me it cannot find images-1.44/rescue.bin... |
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| 00:04.53 | jbr | dlight: how about "find DIR" - what does that say? |
| 00:05.29 | \zxc | So I can't get any further in the installation process, anyone have any ideas what I've done wrong? |
| 00:05.34 | naim | dlight, hmmm .. interesting .. what fs is that on ?? |
| 00:05.40 | mickeyks | \zxc: how many cdroms do you have? |
| 00:05.50 | kingsley | \zxc: Have you tried searching both Google's web and usenet archives? |
| 00:05.55 | \zxc | 1 |
| 00:06.20 | numptyspe | i am tring to install sarge and cant work out which x server to use Can anyone help The chip is SIS630 |
| 00:06.24 | mickeyks | \zxc: it may not be on there. i would try the network install |
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| 00:06.35 | \zxc | it searches it because I can hear the drive working... :/ |
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| 00:06.46 | mentor | blubaustin: Yes, and Linux is based on System V...what's your point? |
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| 00:07.29 | \zxc | do the developers not want it to be installed or something? Why would a file needed to install the kernel be completely missing?! |
| 00:07.30 | abrotman | \zxc: bf24 |
| 00:07.36 | cafuego | numptyspe: You use 'X' and the appropriate driver, the server is always the same. |
| 00:08.00 | toresbe | bluefox83: #debian is sick of Knoppix users! GO AWAY! GO AWAY TO #knoppix AND BEGONE! |
| 00:08.17 | \zxc | abrotman: thanks, I used sysresdisk which worked well to create a new partition :) |
| 00:08.49 | numptyspe | cafuego: Thats the question which driver for a sis630 . SIS doesn't work |
| 00:09.03 | mickeyks | \zxc: i think he's telling you which kernel to choose |
| 00:09.19 | bluefox83 | toresbe, i'm using debian ATM not knoppix |
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| 00:09.53 | toresbe | bluefox83: I'm sorry |
| 00:10.02 | toresbe | blubaustin: #debian is sick of Knoppix users! GO AWAY! GO AWAY TO #knoppix AND BEGONE! |
| 00:10.08 | bluefox83 | toresbe, i forgive you |
| 00:10.08 | DexterminatoR | How do i see what version of Debian i got? cat somestupidfile |
| 00:10.15 | toresbe | bluefox83: I thank you. |
| 00:10.34 | bluefox83 | toresbe, now help me fix my kernels :p |
| 00:10.35 | mentor | /etc/debian_version? |
| 00:10.39 | DexterminatoR | thank you |
| 00:10.45 | emox | sargeeeeee |
| 00:10.48 | emox | >_< |
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| 00:11.04 | toresbe | bluefox83: What's your problem, señor? |
| 00:11.14 | DexterminatoR | mentor: If i am gonna download a package and i got testing/unstable, what should i choose then? unstable or testing? |
| 00:11.20 | bluefox83 | can't boot any kernels i compile myself |
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| 00:11.28 | bluefox83 | always get the same error |
| 00:11.51 | toresbe | bluefox83: Which is? |
| 00:11.54 | bluefox83 | cannot open root device "301" or unknown block |
| 00:11.56 | mickeyks | DexterminatoR: you're on mixed unstable and testing? |
| 00:12.05 | DexterminatoR | yeah |
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| 00:12.23 | \zxc | mickeyks/abrotman - I don't have a choice of kernel to choose from. You're telling me the installation disk doesn't come with the kernel? |
| 00:12.24 | toresbe | bluefox83: You need to put in IDE to your kernel |
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| 00:12.31 | DexterminatoR | at least that's it says ;) |
| 00:12.35 | bluefox83 | (3,1) please append correct "root=" boot option |
| 00:12.36 | jbr | DexterminatoR: you can't tell that from /etc/debian_version |
| 00:12.41 | DexterminatoR | okay? |
| 00:12.41 | bluefox83 | toresbe, already did |
| 00:12.48 | mickeyks | \zxc: have you made any choices so far in the configuration? |
| 00:12.52 | jbr | DexterminatoR: look in /etc/apt/sources.list too |
| 00:13.01 | toresbe | bluefox83: There's something missing, though |
| 00:13.05 | DexterminatoR | okay |
| 00:13.07 | bluefox83 | missing? |
| 00:13.12 | DexterminatoR | well, brb |
| 00:13.17 | emox | whats the command that shows you cpu usage and stuff |
| 00:13.22 | \zxc | mickeyks: Yes |
| 00:13.24 | mickeyks | \zxc: i'm just guessing at the problem; the official debian install is 7 CDs |
| 00:13.25 | bluefox83 | would it help if i say i have init-tools installed? |
| 00:13.28 | mickeyks | \ |
| 00:13.41 | panarchy | emox: top |
| 00:13.42 | mickeyks | \zxc: so what kind of choices were they |
| 00:13.44 | \zxc | I selected keyboard and swap partition and primary partition |
| 00:13.44 | emox | k |
| 00:14.12 | \zxc | "You've mounted your root file system. You may now initialise and mount additional filesystems, or you may go on to install the operating system kernel and the modules." *Next* "Please select the medium you will use to install the system" *cdrom* "Please place the first debian cdrom in the cdrom drive" *continue* |
| 00:14.45 | \zxc | oh look, we can't find "images-1.44/rescue.bin" |
| 00:14.53 | \zxc | so we can't continue with the installation |
| 00:15.05 | toresbe | !start an fs war |
| 00:15.06 | dpkg | ffs uses too much overhead! |
| 00:15.16 | \zxc | I read that I only needed this one cd. |
| 00:15.23 | \zxc | 'vanilla' |
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| 00:15.33 | emox | bleh screw vanilla |
| 00:15.36 | emox | get sarge |
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| 00:15.38 | emox | ! |
| 00:15.44 | bluefox83 | \zxc, try using apt instead of the cd |
| 00:15.53 | bluefox83 | try ftp or something |
| 00:15.54 | \zxc | network installation? |
| 00:15.57 | bluefox83 | ya |
| 00:15.59 | emox | sarge is a 100 meg iso |
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| 00:16.03 | DexterminatoR | Hömz. Why won't my debian add my new window manager in gdm? |
| 00:16.04 | mickeyks | \zxc: i don't know what the deal with vanilla is. but the network install doesn't take long if you aren't on dialup |
| 00:16.09 | emox | download it, easy to install, then you apt-get the rest of the install |
| 00:16.10 | \zxc | okay |
| 00:16.11 | \zxc | thanks |
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| 00:16.22 | bluefox83 | DexterminatoR, have you tried rebooting? |
| 00:16.30 | DexterminatoR | that's what i just did :P |
| 00:16.41 | bluefox83 | hrm |
| 00:16.43 | emox | i installed sarge, apt-get install'd X and all my development files in 30 minutes |
| 00:16.44 | bluefox83 | i had that problem |
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| 00:16.51 | bluefox83 | then out of nowhere it showed up |
| 00:16.54 | bluefox83 | so i dunno |
| 00:17.10 | mickeyks | bluefox83: yeah that has happened to me too |
| 00:17.20 | mickeyks | i think it's a sign of the system becoming self-aware |
| 00:17.26 | \zxc | hmm, is there an easy way to initialise the network installation when I've booted from a cd? I don't think I have any more writable cds.. bah :/ |
| 00:17.35 | bluefox83 | lol |
| 00:17.45 | bluefox83 | it's revolting huh? lol |
| 00:17.48 | DexterminatoR | well, brb again ;) |
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| 00:18.12 | bluefox83 | \zxc, you're already running the installation right? |
| 00:18.12 | xam | mickeysks: hostname "skynet" |
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| 00:18.20 | mickeyks | \zxc: when it asks you to choose your method of installation, you should be able to choose network |
| 00:18.37 | neVbey | hello, how can i start the windows media player in linux? |
| 00:18.39 | \zxc | hmm ok |
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| 00:18.47 | neVbey | i can't find the button! |
| 00:18.56 | neVbey | need help |
| 00:19.02 | neVbey | pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 00:19.02 | bluefox83 | neVbey, you don't.. |
| 00:19.09 | mickeyks | there's a windows media player? |
| 00:19.11 | neVbey | heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelllllllllllllllllllllppppppppppppppppppppppppppp meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 00:19.15 | bluefox83 | there is no windows media player in linux O.o |
| 00:19.20 | xam | neVbey: you beg to be kicked, aren't you? |
| 00:19.24 | neVbey | nnnnnnnooooooo |
| 00:19.29 | neVbey | i don't i want help |
| 00:19.34 | mickeyks | this is like i bad dream |
| 00:19.39 | \zxc | hmm nope, I have: 'cdrom', '/dev/fd0', '/dev/fd1', 'hard disk' and 'mounted' |
| 00:19.41 | anonobomber | !showops |
| 00:19.51 | xam | mickeyks: this all but a bad dream |
| 00:19.57 | maher | neVbey: aviplay can play some wmv files |
| 00:19.58 | neVbey | a friend asked me whether he can install windows media player, he meant that it is cool to run windows in linux? |
| 00:20.05 | neVbey | is that right?????????????????????????????? |
| 00:20.10 | mickeyks | \zxc: maybe try mounted? |
| 00:20.15 | zinx | neVbey: yes, that's right |
| 00:20.23 | bluefox83 | neVbey, i have no idea what you're talking about.. |
| 00:20.26 | abrotman | neVbey: wine |
| 00:20.31 | \zxc | nope, says it cannot find the file it wants there either |
| 00:20.43 | xam | neVbey: is your keyboard broken or why do you repeat all letters? |
| 00:20.46 | neVbey | i only need help, so help me |
| 00:20.50 | neVbey | man |
| 00:20.58 | neVbey | '??????????????? |
| 00:20.59 | neVbey | ??????????? |
| 00:21.00 | jbr | neVbey: if you want help, stop acting like a troll |
| 00:21.04 | zinx | neVbey: you have to copy windows to linux first; do this as root: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1 |
| 00:21.10 | ac1d | does anyone know how i would get hardware buttons working with my laptop |
| 00:21.13 | abrotman | neVbey: you're damn close to getting kicked i'd wager |
| 00:21.17 | neVbey | zinx: okay, i will try that. |
| 00:21.21 | abrotman | ac1d: what kind of laptop? |
| 00:21.23 | mickeyks | \zxc: that sucks; i'm not really sure what to tell you. i think there is a good network installer you can get from debian.org now |
| 00:21.27 | neVbey | zinx: do i have to be root for that operation? |
| 00:21.33 | maher | neVbey: don't do that |
| 00:21.33 | ac1d | abrotman, compaq presario 2100 |
| 00:21.36 | \zxc | okay :/ |
| 00:21.37 | abrotman | zinx: thats not nice |
| 00:21.46 | \zxc | Thanks for your help mickeyks |
| 00:21.46 | zinx | neVbey: yes, you have to be root to install anything |
| 00:21.49 | abrotman | zinx: i can't believe you said that abou tmy mom |
| 00:22.01 | abrotman | peterS: this is the case for SMRT! |
| 00:22.07 | abrotman | helix: see what i mean :) |
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| 00:23.04 | emox | damn |
| 00:23.04 | abrotman | ac1d: check linux-laptop.net |
| 00:23.08 | emox | this DD is takinn forever |
| 00:23.09 | marinos | esop: helix ?? |
| 00:23.39 | esop | she is a fierce op who can do nefarious things to folks who come'a beggin! |
| 00:23.43 | ac1d | thanks abrotman |
| 00:24.36 | marinos | brrr sounds terrifying |
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| 00:24.54 | toresbe | emox: History Trivia: DD is named after the IBM OS/360 command. It also accepts parameters very much like IBM programs did at the time, by parameter=value, instead of the more standard Unix -p val. |
| 00:24.59 | ac1d | abrotman, says that they are non working, in theory, is there any way to use tem if they dont have keycodes? |
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| 00:25.20 | mezzymeat | what means with "1</dev/null" or something like that? I see it on many places but i can't figure out what its doing. |
| 00:25.37 | Aeudian | Anyone able to help me with WineX |
| 00:25.37 | mezzymeat | > |
| 00:25.37 | bluefox83 | what the heck is an I20 device? |
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| 00:26.04 | toresbe | bluefox83: I2O? |
| 00:26.06 | neVbey | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasdfajsdlkfjdaslllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllfslkdjaflsdajfklsajdflsdajfklsadjfklsadjfklsadjflksdjfklsdjfklsdjfklsdjfklsdjfklsdjaflksadjflkasjdflkasjdlkfasjdlkfjasdlgkbndfmnglsadjfsladjfasdlfjsladfjasdljfaslkjglkwjepworwqporwi'ß0i2340923ur 0p23jr23 opij23ßp9 uj23 jrljasdlfjsal5dfj 4541511111111lkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk2222222222123lj4 l23j4 2l34j4 |
| 00:26.07 | abrotman | ac1d: i assume you mean in X .. you'd have to see if they have scancodes i guess .. |
| 00:26.08 | neVbey | 2l3j4 23lj 4lkj 5236l4j 23l4j 2340ß 72iu34i3 3904 3n43n ß94u3 n ß02396u54 230p492j3 4l2 3j23'ß 0lkn1sdfßüs9 daua lkaj ß23492i 23l m32p o4iu23 ß92u443 6oih23 'ß40u9as1dlfjas 6ldjfl45661526 5444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444444alskjdfsladj6flsdjflksajf21lasjdf6lsdjfl54jsfl6js2a1 6askdjfl |
| 00:26.09 | abrotman | !ops |
| 00:26.10 | dpkg | Meet your friendly #debian operators: bdale, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk. Or: This is the Emergency Debian Hologram please state the nature of your problem. |
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| 00:26.14 | naim | how do i find out what a device is ...for ex. /dev/zero |
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| 00:26.26 | dasunt | I have a multi-board SPARC here -- will debian use all of the CPUs in it or not? |
| 00:26.30 | abrotman | oh .. he got himsself kicked |
| 00:26.33 | toresbe | He left voluntarily... |
| 00:26.40 | bluefox83 | toresbe, the I20 device stuff in the 2.6.7 kernel..i need to know whethere i should turn it off or keep it |
| 00:26.41 | xam | messymeat: it's used when some programme expects input from stdin, and you just tell that the programme should get the input from /dev/null instead (ie. it won't get any input) |
| 00:26.41 | alindeman_ | Not quite voluntarily :) |
| 00:26.42 | toresbe | No, he didn't |
| 00:26.43 | mickeyks | more like accidentally |
| 00:26.46 | abrotman | not voluntarily .. excess flood .. his client canned him |
| 00:26.52 | alindeman_ | No, the server |
| 00:26.53 | alindeman_ | =) |
| 00:26.56 | jbr | naim: try "man zero" |
| 00:27.11 | kingsley | Can sed update its input file? Ie: cat <file> | sed > <file> |
| 00:27.13 | toresbe | bluefox83: Some TV cards, and monitor cards, use an I2O bus to pass messages around. |
| 00:27.13 | \zxc | abrotman: that was the server, not the client. :) |
| 00:27.16 | RichiH | alindeman_: now i want to report that, and then.. |
| 00:27.18 | RichiH | bleh ;) |
| 00:27.29 | abrotman | \zxc: you sure? |
| 00:27.31 | \zxc | yeah |
| 00:27.35 | dasunt | kingsley: Newer versions can. |
| 00:27.49 | dasunt | kingsley: But not the way you are doing it. |
| 00:27.53 | abrotman | kingsley: yes .. you can run sed on the file |
| 00:27.54 | \zxc | most ircds have built in flood protection and will kill clients with 'excess flood' when they exceed the flood protection rules. |
| 00:27.56 | jbr | kingsley: you mean filter in place? -i (in the postwoody version only) |
| 00:28.09 | \zxc | clients won't disconnect themselves when they flood. |
| 00:28.24 | Aeudian | how do i delete a folder even with files in it?" |
| 00:28.26 | dasunt | cat <fiile> | command > <file> will overwrite the file in a lot of cases. |
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| 00:28.44 | toresbe | dasunt: Probably |
| 00:28.46 | helix | dasunt: which sparc? |
| 00:28.51 | toresbe | dasunt: Is it an ultra 1? |
| 00:28.55 | kingsley | dasunt, abrotman & jbr: Thanks. -i looks good. |
| 00:29.02 | dasunt | Let me look. |
| 00:29.05 | jbr | Aeudian: "man rm" and look for "recursive" |
| 00:29.29 | toresbe | Aeudian: It's the -r command. Use with extreme care. |
| 00:29.58 | jbr | Aeudian: oddly, even if it's a subdirectory you're removing, it's not a job for rmdir... |
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| 00:30.29 | Aeudian | toresbe: so if i wanted to delete a folder called wineX i would do rmdir -r wineX? |
| 00:30.32 | Aeudian | jbr: ? |
| 00:30.44 | krunk- | apt-get --purge removes all config files and everything right? |
| 00:30.53 | toresbe | Aeudian: No, rm -r wineX |
| 00:31.12 | helix | hmm, i wonder if nevbey was just a case of cat on keyboard |
| 00:31.17 | xam | krunk- yes, it should |
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| 00:31.28 | abrotman | helix: dont think so .. he had been doing it most of the time he was here |
| 00:31.41 | Aeudian | toresbe: thanks it worked |
| 00:31.48 | toresbe | Aeudian: No prob. |
| 00:31.49 | helix | abrotman: ah, i see now |
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| 00:32.27 | dasunt | Sparc-server 1000 |
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| 00:32.48 | krunk- | anyone use authvchkpwd? I'm going to compile courier-imap from source because it seems to not work with the binary deb install.....is there a more elegant way that would keep the package in my apt db for updates/grades? |
| 00:32.50 | helix | dasunt: is that 32 or 64 bit? |
| 00:33.11 | abrotman | !sparc |
| 00:33.11 | dpkg | i heard sparc is the CPU architecture used in Sun's proprietary hardware. Non-embedded ones usually run Solaris, but to run Linux on it, visit http://www.ultralinux.org/faq.html or Type make vmlinux (not kernel or bzImage or lilo or anything like that) to compile the kernel. For more information about the SPARC architecture, see http://www.sparc.org. For help with Linux on SPARC look in #debian-sparc |
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| 00:33.58 | dasunt | helix: Its an older one. |
| 00:34.12 | helix | dasunt: yeah, but i have an old ultra 1 that's 64 bit |
| 00:34.48 | DexterminatoR | No, it won't work with a reboot |
| 00:36.29 | dasunt | Trying to figure that out still. |
| 00:36.40 | DexterminatoR | How do i add a window manager to gdm? |
| 00:36.49 | helix | dasunt: yeah, i'm not seeing anything obvious; i suspect it's 32 though |
| 00:36.54 | shinguz | just compiled a 2.4.26 kernel for my thinkpad. boots and lets me log in with ssh but locally i never even get the logon prompt. instead of that i get "INIT: Id "1" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes". ID 1 through 6. then "INIT: no more processes left in this runlevel". wait five minutes and the whole string repeats itself. |
| 00:37.04 | shinguz | in other words, what the hell is going on? |
| 00:37.07 | mickeyks | DexterminatoR: maybe reconfigure gdm? |
| 00:37.10 | mickeyks | just a guess |
| 00:37.13 | dasunt | helix: I am suspecting that as well. |
| 00:37.25 | abrotman | shouldn't the eeprom tell you? |
| 00:37.33 | dasunt | Okay, I'm 95% sure its 32bit. |
| 00:37.50 | toresbe | helix: I'm typing this form an Ultra 1 |
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| 00:38.05 | dasunt | Trying to figure out what circuit I can put it on without blowing a fuse. |
| 00:38.05 | helix | toresbe: that's nice |
| 00:38.16 | toresbe | dasunt: When is it from? |
| 00:38.18 | dasunt | UltraSPARC == 64bit, right? |
| 00:38.27 | mickeyks | toresbe: what color is it? |
| 00:38.31 | naim | how do i find out what a device is ...for ex: /dev/zero |
| 00:38.37 | toresbe | dasunt: Yep |
| 00:38.38 | helix | dasunt: yeah |
| 00:38.44 | DexterminatoR | mickeyks: how? :P |
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| 00:38.51 | toresbe | mickeyks: It depends on what windows I have open :P |
| 00:38.59 | abrotman | it used to .. i don tthink they use the ultra tag anymore |
| 00:39.05 | jbr | naim: try "man zero" |
| 00:39.19 | toresbe | mickeyks: It's grey and purple |
| 00:39.21 | mickeyks | DexterminatoR: try dpkg-reconfigure gdm |
| 00:39.24 | DexterminatoR | danke |
| 00:39.31 | helix | dasunt: anyway, i don't know a lot about sparcs so i have no idea what an XDBus is but according to the service manual: 1 XDBus (64-bit data and 1-bit parity) |
| 00:40.32 | DexterminatoR | gah, i have to restart X again :P |
| 00:40.42 | toresbe | Suns are great fun - my single Ultra 1 heats my 15m2 room! |
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| 00:40.56 | helix | i keep mine in another room |
| 00:41.00 | mickeyks | DexterminatoR: att elast it's something to try |
| 00:41.06 | toresbe | I have only one room. |
| 00:41.12 | DexterminatoR | mickeyks: yeah, i know |
| 00:41.42 | toresbe | This orphanage lets me have a fairly large room, but I had an option of two smaller ones. |
| 00:41.50 | helix | i don't think my sparc is any warmer than my other computers |
| 00:41.58 | helix | orphanage? |
| 00:42.02 | toresbe | helix: yeah. |
| 00:42.03 | FieldySnuts | hi helix |
| 00:42.04 | mwilson | hm... |
| 00:42.13 | abrotman | toresbe: you teach or live there? |
| 00:42.20 | toresbe | abrotman: "Teach"? |
| 00:42.23 | toresbe | abrotman: Live. |
| 00:42.29 | helix | toresbe: where do you live? |
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| 00:42.35 | helix | (don't say "in an orphanage") |
| 00:42.37 | toresbe | helix: In an orphanage...? |
| 00:42.38 | mickeyks | DexterminatoR: http://sivut.koti.soon.fi/lindj/debian_problems.html#howto2 |
| 00:42.43 | toresbe | Haha :D |
| 00:42.46 | naim | jbr :: ok that works for zero .. same for othe devices ?? is there a more general way for /dev stuff |
| 00:42.50 | helix | people try so hard to be clever |
| 00:42.57 | mwilson | hotplug again!? |
| 00:42.58 | toresbe | helix: Oslo, Norway. |
| 00:43.12 | mickeyks | toresbe: is it a hard knock life? |
| 00:43.13 | abrotman | i dont htink ive ever seen an orphanage in the US |
| 00:43.13 | helix | i don't think we even have orphanages in the US anymore |
| 00:43.16 | helix | foster/group homes |
| 00:43.25 | abrotman | there are foster homes |
| 00:43.26 | jbr | naim: theres stuff in the kernel docs... |
| 00:43.29 | toresbe | mickeyks: No. Good bed, broadband, I'm not complaining. |
| 00:43.31 | abrotman | and "group" homes |
| 00:43.39 | mwilson | We *should*... most foster homes are jokes. |
| 00:44.07 | abrotman | i have a friend who does foster care work |
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| 00:44.21 | abrotman | she spends most of her time in North/NorthEast Philly .. joy :) |
| 00:44.30 | mwilson | Of course, most child services in California are a joke. |
| 00:44.34 | sussudio | helix: who needs orphanages when you have the streets? it's called compassionate conservatism |
| 00:44.45 | DexterminatoR | It won't work :/ |
| 00:44.50 | dasunt | Hmmmm. |
| 00:44.55 | helix | sussudio: socialist! |
| 00:45.00 | mickeyks | DexterminatoR: did you see the url i pasted? |
| 00:45.19 | dasunt | Okay, looks like the machien is supported. |
| 00:45.21 | DexterminatoR | mickeyks: no |
| 00:45.24 | dasunt | At least, one processor. |
| 00:45.26 | mickeyks | DexterminatoR: http://sivut.koti.soon.fi/lindj/debian_problems.html#howto2 |
| 00:45.27 | helix | heh |
| 00:45.33 | abrotman | wouldn't orphanages be more prevalent in a socialist society? |
| 00:45.35 | RichiH | Piggy is a pig? amazing! |
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| 00:45.51 | keystone | help! I started a working Debian (unstable) and now it doesn't connect to the internet and the sound is gone |
| 00:45.51 | DexterminatoR | mickeyks: You won't see when i go away now (so you skip the nick spam :)) |
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| 00:45.55 | mwilson | abrotman: I don't know why they would be. |
| 00:45.56 | mickeyks | abrotman: i think they call them group nurseries :) |
| 00:46.00 | keystone | what could cause all that at once? |
| 00:46.02 | RichiH | next, ^IcE-bOy^ will say he's cool |
| 00:46.24 | keystone | it's like the whole configuration changed |
| 00:46.25 | RichiH | keystone: with that much info: anything |
| 00:46.36 | mwilson | keystone: So undo whatever you changed. |
| 00:46.49 | ^IcE-bOy^ | i think no .. |
| 00:46.50 | abrotman | mwilson: because it would be for the good of society .. make sure all the kids have a good home/education/etc .. possibly allow them to grow up and better serve community |
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| 00:46.53 | keystone | I didn't changte anythin |
| 00:47.05 | mwilson | keystone: Of course you did. |
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| 00:47.13 | helix | keystone: that's simply not true |
| 00:47.23 | keystone | don't know what--it was working yesterday |
| 00:47.25 | abrotman | keystone: did you install anyhting? |
| 00:47.29 | keystone | have added anything |
| 00:47.38 | morth | hi |
| 00:47.51 | keystone | haven't signed on as root in a week |
| 00:47.56 | mwilson | abrotman: I didn't make any statement about whether orphanages were a good or bad concept... I was answering your assertion that an orphanage was more likely in a socialist society. |
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| 00:48.18 | abrotman | mwilson: but does it seem likely or not? |
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| 00:48.37 | naim | less removes colors from ls and other commands ..any fix for that ?? |
| 00:48.58 | morth | anyone here uses msn on console? e need an apt repositorie for that client (transporters excluded) |
| 00:49.03 | abrotman | i didn't say it was a bad/good concept .. but the ideals of socialism would, i would think anyways, promote raising children instead of leaving them to rot on the streets |
| 00:49.08 | Rez | naim: less does no such thing. |
| 00:49.11 | mwilson | naim: It's not broken. |
| 00:49.15 | abrotman | morth: centericq? |
| 00:49.23 | beth | naim: less doesn't remove the colors, ls removes the colors when it detects it's being piped to another program |
| 00:49.30 | mwilson | naim: ls doesn't colorize without tricks if stdout isn't a tty. |
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| 00:49.33 | morth | abrotman: checking |
| 00:49.49 | keystone | I'm booting debian and slackware and mandrake and xp--I pretty much know what I'm doing |
| 00:50.01 | Rez | naim: ls --color=always | less |
| 00:50.01 | mwilson | keystone: Sure you do. |
| 00:50.09 | abrotman | mandrake? surely you jest :) |
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| 00:50.15 | keystone | I can't think of anything that would change the sound and the internet configurations at the same time |
| 00:50.20 | code_01 | hi everyone |
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| 00:50.22 | naim | Rez, mwilson, beth yes its piped .. |
| 00:50.24 | code_01 | simple question |
| 00:50.26 | mwilson | Hm, allow X to upgrade and apply the two patches, or just wait... |
| 00:50.48 | Rez | naim: duh. |
| 00:50.51 | RichiH | Rez: neat. but less only displays the values, not the colours, so.. |
| 00:51.04 | Rez | RichiH: I didn't say it would work. |
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| 00:51.15 | xam | mwilson: wait. Or do you want to be a guinea pig? |
| 00:51.27 | code_01 | Appear a message in boot process that my HD DMA isn't active |
| 00:51.34 | code_01 | I try hdparm |
| 00:51.40 | keystone | I'm just not sure where to start to fix this thing-any ideas? |
| 00:51.42 | morth | abrotman: strange, freshmeat didn't get this as a result for "msn console" |
| 00:51.47 | naim | Rez, mwilson, beth /.. nop ..weird output for :: ls --color=always /dev/|less |
| 00:51.56 | morth | abrotman: do use this' |
| 00:51.58 | mwilson | xam: Oh, it's easy enough to undo. |
| 00:52.01 | Rez | naim: no shit sherlock. |
| 00:52.05 | mwilson | naim: I would hope so, yes. |
| 00:52.13 | morth | abrotman: do you use this client? |
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| 00:52.15 | Rez | naim: I was just showing you that it was not less doing that. |
| 00:52.21 | mickeyks | naim: ls -C --color=always | less -R -X |
| 00:52.25 | RichiH | Rez: .) |
| 00:52.28 | code_01 | Is there other way |
| 00:52.30 | code_01 | ?? |
| 00:52.32 | mwilson | xam: I'm actually a *competent* unstable user... I keep the prior packages around. |
| 00:52.36 | mickeyks | actually, that's more than you wanted, but it works |
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| 00:53.04 | Rez | RTFM buddy |
| 00:53.08 | naim | Rez, mwilson, k .. rtfm i will |
| 00:53.12 | RichiH | mickeyks: wow |