| 00:00.04 | helix | blechx^deb: no, but seriously, see if you can get her to use trillian or something |
| 00:00.10 | helix | blechx^deb: err, wait |
| 00:00.12 | eeyore- | 0fab80f09289023995808a352c31d25f /lib/security/pam_securetty.so |
| 00:00.16 | AUSTRALIA | 0.76.21 |
| 00:00.21 | helix | blechx^deb: yeah, and have her use AIM or what have you as well with trillian |
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| 00:00.41 | helix | then she can talk to her MS using friends as well as you. i think a little compromise makes for a good relationship. |
| 00:00.43 | blechx^deb | damn X crashes on me :/ |
| 00:01.10 | helix | oh well |
| 00:01.11 | cafuego | AUSTRALIA: That's not the latest Sarge version. |
| 00:01.14 | helix | his relationship is doomed |
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| 00:01.24 | blechx^deb | !! |
| 00:01.25 | dpkg | I am not your damn csh prompt! |
| 00:01.33 | cafuego | AUSTRALIA: Unless of yourse you're not on ia32 |
| 00:01.38 | pingouiin | !help |
| 00:01.48 | stew | !info libpam_modules sarge |
| 00:01.58 | pingouiin | !unlobotomy |
| 00:01.58 | AUSTRALIA | I'm on ia32. It's the latest on my local mirror. |
| 00:02.09 | thomas_adam | stew: libpam-runtime, you mean. |
| 00:02.10 | cafuego | Which mirror is that? |
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| 00:02.17 | eeyore- | libpam-modules |
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| 00:02.22 | cafuego | !info libpam-modules sarge |
| 00:02.26 | dpkg | libpam-modules: (Pluggable Authentication Modules for PAM), section base, is required. Version: 0.76-22 (sarge), Packaged size: 148 kB, Installed size: 476 kB |
| 00:02.40 | AUSTRALIA | is there a way to force apt-get to use another site ( without modifying /etc/apt/sources.list ) ? |
| 00:02.46 | eeyore- | AUSTRALIA: squid proxy cache? clear cache |
| 00:02.54 | thomas_adam | AUSTRALIA: Where are you? |
| 00:02.58 | helix | haha |
| 00:03.02 | helix | thomas_adam: you're such an ass. |
| 00:03.06 | cafuego | AUSTRALIA: You can ftp the packages and install 'em by hand. |
| 00:03.12 | mick_laptop | !keys |
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| 00:03.12 | dpkg | keys is probably at http://www.ibbnet.nl/~anne/keyboard/keyboard.html#Bash |
| 00:03.15 | joh | hmm, I'm running RAID 1 on my two disks, how can I check if everything is working? i.e. that disk1 is mirroring disk0? |
| 00:03.16 | thomas_adam | helix: Sarcasm. |
| 00:03.18 | eeyore- | thomas_adam: his nick is AUSTRALIA, what do you think? |
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| 00:03.20 | mick_laptop | can someone test that url? |
| 00:03.22 | blechx^deb | x dies all tha time |
| 00:03.24 | mick_laptop | it didn't work for me |
| 00:03.24 | helix | thomas_adam: that's what the "haha" was for |
| 00:03.27 | helix | you dumb brit |
| 00:03.28 | cafuego | helix: australia is larges then the continental US, his question isn't silly <heh> |
| 00:03.30 | blechx^deb | very annoying |
| 00:03.53 | mick_laptop | blechx^deb, yup when xine is running -- :) |
| 00:03.59 | mick_laptop | thats a known bug :P |
| 00:04.03 | cafuego | s/larges/larger/ |
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| 00:04.08 | blechx^deb | i dont run xine |
| 00:04.11 | helix | the continental US has a bigger heart |
| 00:04.15 | thomas_adam | To most Americans, if they haven't invaded the country, it surely cannot exist. |
| 00:04.16 | cafuego | mick_laptop: Unable to determine IP address from host name for www.ibbnet.nl |
| 00:04.16 | AUSTRALIA | cafuego: I'm not sure if that's true actually. |
| 00:04.22 | cafuego | AUSTRALIA: It is. |
| 00:04.28 | mick_laptop | cafuego, thats what i thought |
| 00:04.34 | thomas_adam | AUSTRALIA: lowercase your nickname, please. |
| 00:04.37 | eeyore- | joh: randomly check blocks on the two drives? |
| 00:04.38 | blechx^deb | it seems to happen when i press shift? |
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| 00:04.42 | mick_laptop | someone should delete that factoid |
| 00:04.54 | cafuego | !forget keys |
| 00:04.54 | dpkg | i forgot keys, cafuego |
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| 00:05.06 | cafuego | mick_laptop: lazy bastard |
| 00:05.12 | mick_laptop | lol :) |
| 00:05.17 | AUSTRALIA | thomas_adam: Sorry. I can't seem to get the damn /nick to work on this client. |
| 00:05.18 | thomas_adam | !+lol |
| 00:05.18 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, lol is Lamer on Line, or Lamer on Loan [from AOL] |
| 00:05.28 | joh | eeyore-: eh, shouldn't I be able to mount the mirroring disk? |
| 00:05.32 | thomas_adam | AUSTRALIA: THAT'S OK> |
| 00:05.41 | mick_laptop | !caps |
| 00:05.41 | dpkg | Do not type whole lines/nicks in caps. It's bloody annoying and will make people not want to answer you. |
| 00:05.55 | eeyore- | joh: if the hardware doesn't put any funky header, yes |
| 00:06.01 | helix | we'll have to introduce blechx to console irc clients |
| 00:06.02 | Dabian | !nickometer AUSTRALIA |
| 00:06.02 | dpkg | 'AUSTRALIA' is 99.9006% lame, dabian |
| 00:06.05 | helix | and screen, maybe |
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| 00:06.13 | cafuego | AUSTRALIA: Still, which local mirror are you fererring to? There's a whole bunch in oz. |
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| 00:06.16 | RichiH | !nickmeter Dabian |
| 00:06.17 | dpkg | Dabian is 100% lame with a cherry on top! |
| 00:06.33 | helix | blechx^deb: i have an idea |
| 00:06.36 | AUSTRALIA | cafuego: ftp.wa.au.debian.org |
| 00:06.37 | Dabian | !nickmeter RichiH |
| 00:06.37 | dpkg | RichiH is 100% lame with a cherry on top! |
| 00:06.41 | eeyore- | joh: if there's no metadata in front of the partitions, sure you can mount. but if this is super-sekr3t raid controllers that does who knows what with the drive, no :-) |
| 00:06.41 | Leeon | What program in windows can i use to burn .deb files? |
| 00:06.42 | helix | stop it you retards |
| 00:06.43 | blechx^deb | tell me |
| 00:06.44 | RichiH | dpkg: you lie! |
| 00:06.45 | dpkg | RichiH: I give up, what is it? |
| 00:06.51 | Linux_Freak | nero |
| 00:06.55 | helix | blechx^deb: stop using xchat or chatzilla or whatever the hell irc client you use |
| 00:06.56 | cafuego | AUSTRALIA: Do iinet still have free waix traffic? |
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| 00:07.12 | RichiH | helix: bad mood? |
| 00:07.13 | AUSTRALIA | cafauego: So far as I'm aware they do. |
| 00:07.18 | blechx^deb | it crashes_ |
| 00:07.23 | cafuego | AUSTRALIA: If so, the aarnet mirror *should* be free. |
| 00:07.27 | helix | RichiH: no, i just think nickometer/nickmeter bot shit is annoying |
| 00:07.28 | potter | anyone know the way back to AOL from here? |
| 00:07.35 | helix | potter: you can never go back |
| 00:07.35 | joh | eeyore-: it's software raid, and I tried to mount drive1 while drive0 was mounted. that did not work. I was able to mount drive1 while drive0 was NOT mounted, and it looks pretty good! :) |
| 00:07.39 | potter | hehe |
| 00:07.40 | blechx^deb | it crashes? |
| 00:07.41 | mick_laptop | do certain motherboards only support certain CPUs? |
| 00:07.42 | helix | blechx^deb: X crashes, not your client |
| 00:07.49 | AUSTRALIA | cafuego: I thought aarnet was in QLD ?? |
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| 00:07.56 | cafuego | AUSTRALIA: Yeah. |
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| 00:08.01 | helix | blechx^deb: anyway, use a console client - go to a VT and run it within screen |
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| 00:08.06 | mick_laptop | i mean a pentium II doesn't run on a Pentium one motherboard |
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| 00:08.13 | helix | which means, type screen, then type irssi |
| 00:08.18 | par_ | does anyone know why i need the kernel source installed for ati radeon drivers? |
| 00:08.20 | Linux_Freak | mick_laptop: it is like that with all mainboards... |
| 00:08.21 | cafuego | mick_laptop: It's doesn't FIT |
| 00:08.23 | helix | then you can connect to it within X but not lose your irc session |
| 00:08.24 | eeyore- | mick_laptop: that much is obvious, different pin count and all |
| 00:08.26 | AUSTRALIA | cafuego: So it's outside the waix switch then. |
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| 00:08.35 | RichiH | helix: the same applies to me with baders :) |
| 00:08.38 | cafuego | AUSTRALIA: Hmmm. |
| 00:08.43 | mick_laptop | it was an example |
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| 00:09.08 | AUSTRALIA | So what's the url of the us debian package for sarge ? |
| 00:09.08 | thomas_adam | helix: They like your charm. |
| 00:09.18 | cafuego | par_: No idea. My 9600SE runs fine with default X drivers. |
| 00:09.20 | mick_laptop | i just mean, that if it fits and is a pentium (if the MB supports pentium) -- shouldn't it just work? |
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| 00:09.24 | eeyore- | mick_laptop: even if the CPU's *fit* it might still fry |
| 00:09.24 | thomas_adam | AUSTRALIA: apt-setup |
| 00:09.25 | Dabian | I have an error: Warning: '/proc/partitions' does not match '/dev' directory structure. |
| 00:09.26 | anthonym | Howdy guys |
| 00:09.31 | helix | thomas_adam: i think they just want to listen to my voicemail message |
| 00:09.34 | helix | wow, they're calling back |
| 00:09.35 | thomas_adam | Dabian: That's an error not a warning. |
| 00:09.36 | par_ | cafuego: do you get 3d accel? |
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| 00:09.39 | thomas_adam | fuck it. |
| 00:09.42 | mick_laptop | AUSTRALIA, look on debian.org lazy ass |
| 00:09.45 | thomas_adam | Dabian: That's a warning, not an error. |
| 00:09.46 | cafuego | par_: No idea :-) |
| 00:09.46 | eeyore- | mick_laptop: you can fit socket-1 athlons into a socket-370/fcpga motherboard ... doesn't mean it'll go :-) |
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| 00:09.51 | par_ | cafuego: my 2d works |
| 00:09.54 | fairway | hi where is chroot located? |
| 00:09.56 | par_ | cafuego: but my 3d accel doesnt |
| 00:09.57 | anthonym | I've just installed debian as a dedicated fax server |
| 00:10.00 | dan2 | thomas_adam: I got my hands on a copy of Mercury TestDirector :P |
| 00:10.03 | Dabian | thomas_adam : What should I do about it? |
| 00:10.03 | thomas_adam | fairway: Don't be lame. |
| 00:10.04 | cafuego | Not that 3D is useful in any way |
| 00:10.09 | anthonym | apache+php isnt working.. whats the best way to go about it? |
| 00:10.09 | thomas_adam | dan2: Git! |
| 00:10.12 | par_ | cafuego: it is |
| 00:10.13 | thomas_adam | dan2: Fuck all. |
| 00:10.16 | fairway | thomas_adam: i lost the file |
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| 00:10.20 | eeyore- | mick_a: ah, shit. socket-a :-) |
| 00:10.21 | thomas_adam | fairway: Then you are lame. |
| 00:10.23 | dan2 | thomas_adam: I love this thing |
| 00:10.23 | mick_laptop | fairway, whereis chroot |
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| 00:10.26 | par_ | cafuego: i run a 3d desktop (metisse) and pplay unreal :-D |
| 00:10.29 | Dabian | thomas_adam : I'm a little carefull to try and change /proc/partitions ... |
| 00:10.31 | helix | hmm. 3 times. |
| 00:10.32 | thomas_adam | dan2: Ok, I'm jealous. |
| 00:10.45 | thomas_adam | dan2: You can't change it -- /proc is virtual. |
| 00:10.47 | dan2 | thomas_adam: how much do you thinks this costs to buy from mercury |
| 00:10.53 | fairway | thomas_adam: i dont comment you any further |
| 00:10.59 | Dabian | thomas_adam : There is /proc/sys/* |
| 00:11.00 | thomas_adam | dan2: pass, what is it in pounds? |
| 00:11.09 | mick_laptop | dan2, read proc.txt in your kernel sources |
| 00:11.10 | dan2 | thomas_adam: my dad works for mercury, thats how I got it |
| 00:11.10 | Dabian | thomas_adam : But anyhow .. what can I do? |
| 00:11.14 | thomas_adam | fairway: Describeyour problem in more detail. |
| 00:11.15 | eeyore- | so many names ... slot-1, slot-a, socket-a, socket-370, socket-478, it's what, now? 900+? |
| 00:11.19 | dan2 | mick_laptop: how does that help me in anyway |
| 00:11.23 | dan2 | mick_laptop: stfu |
| 00:11.29 | thomas_adam | Dabian: Nothing, it is a *warning* not an error. |
| 00:11.34 | Dabian | thomas_adam : I tried installing Grub, then I gave up, and tried running lilo -v, and thats the error I got (well, one of them) |
| 00:11.36 | mick_laptop | ok, that idiot is now on /ignore |
| 00:12.01 | dan2 | thomas_adam: dunno, I haven't the slightest clue |
| 00:12.10 | thomas_adam | dan2: I'd say a quite a lot. |
| 00:12.17 | dan2 | thomas_adam: I think > 1200 |
| 00:12.23 | thomas_adam | dan2: Yeah. :) |
| 00:12.26 | dan2 | thomas_adam: :) |
| 00:12.36 | Dabian | thomas_adam : You're saying that I can reboot my box now? |
| 00:12.40 | thomas_adam | !aolify mick_laptop |
| 00:13.00 | dan2 | thomas_adam: I told my dad I only wanted the BTS from mercury, but I guess they don't sell it seperate from testdirector |
| 00:13.00 | thomas_adam | Dabian: No, I never said nor implied that now, did I? |
| 00:13.08 | thomas_adam | :D |
| 00:13.11 | Dabian | thomas_adam : Heh :) |
| 00:13.17 | thomas_adam | Dabian: Try again. |
| 00:13.52 | Dabian | thomas_adam : Well .. I'm allready confused as to why my harddisk is /dev/hde .. when its the only harddisk on the system .. I would expect it to be /dev/hda. :) |
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| 00:14.08 | dan2 | Dabian: stick it on the first IDE chain |
| 00:14.09 | thomas_adam | Dabian: Depends what IDE channel it is on. |
| 00:14.14 | eeyore- | Dabian: because you didn't plug the hard disk into the *primary ide* *master* port |
| 00:14.16 | stew | Dabian: its not the only ide controller on the box |
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| 00:14.29 | eeyore- | Dabian: you probably plug it into an add-on ide controller channel |
| 00:14.37 | AUSTRALIA | I get the same behaviour with 0.76.22 |
| 00:14.52 | Dabian | dan2: Well, I have 4 "things" on the motherboard. 2 of them is oldfashioned, and 2 of them is new ultra stuff .. so thought I'd use the ultra stuff, and quite right, it seems faster! |
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| 00:15.04 | AUSTRALIA | Can someone give me that md5 again. |
| 00:15.04 | dan2 | Dabian: thats why its not hda |
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| 00:15.17 | thomas_adam | AUSTRALIA: Ask a sensible questions, FFS. |
| 00:15.27 | HeatHawk | what are your guys oppinon of the ati radeon 9200? |
| 00:15.38 | eeyore- | Dabian: grub shouldn't have any trouble booting the kernel. set your bios to boot from the onboard ata/133 (or whatever) controller and you should be fine |
| 00:15.47 | thomas_adam | dpkg, tell HeatHawk about polls |
| 00:15.51 | thomas_adam | dpkg, tell HeatHawk about ask |
| 00:15.56 | nono | there is an incompatibility between gnome-desktop-data and gimp (gimp, gimp-data) on the /usr/share/pixmaps/gnome-gimp.png file... |
| 00:15.56 | eeyore- | 0fab80f09289023995808a352c31d25f /lib/security/pam_securetty.so |
| 00:16.04 | HeatHawk | thomas_adam, its not a poll |
| 00:16.08 | nono | it happened in the todays update |
| 00:16.14 | eeyore- | nono: dpkg-divert, are you using sid and can't hack it? |
| 00:16.18 | Dabian | eeyore- : You think I am better off using grub with my configuration? |
| 00:16.18 | HeatHawk | i just want to know if its as crap as i think it is |
| 00:16.24 | AUSTRALIA | eeyore: thanks. |
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| 00:16.29 | helix | !thomas_adam |
| 00:16.30 | dpkg | methinks thomas_adam is methinks thomas_adam is a very friendly IRC helper who tries his best. He's from Southamtpton, England. a Soft Southerner (tm), NOT like caphuso |
| 00:16.32 | johs__ | hello |
| 00:16.35 | Dabian | KarlosII : 0.8 is in debian. |
| 00:16.39 | helix | puhleez |
| 00:16.41 | thomas_adam | dpkg, forget thomas_adam |
| 00:16.41 | dpkg | cannot alter locked factoids, thomas_adam |
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| 00:16.44 | Dabian | KarlosII : NEw is 0.9 |
| 00:16.45 | helix | hahaha |
| 00:16.47 | thomas_adam | WTF locked that? |
| 00:16.47 | helix | !lose thomas_adam |
| 00:16.48 | dpkg | thomas_adam: You Lose. |
| 00:16.49 | krille | hi again |
| 00:16.50 | KarlosII | Dabian, uh we're at 0.9.2 |
| 00:16.52 | helix | !factinfo thomas_adam |
| 00:16.52 | dpkg | thomas_adam -- last modified at Fri Jul 11 12:17:35 2003 by italy_m!~john@host226-185.pool21758.interbusiness.it; it has been requested 15 times, last by helix, 23s ago; it has been locked by thomas_adam. |
| 00:16.59 | helix | hmm |
| 00:17.01 | thomas_adam | err... |
| 00:17.02 | helix | you did, dummy |
| 00:17.03 | eeyore- | chances are good thomas_adam added that factoid himself? *smirk* |
| 00:17.07 | johs__ | how cna i check how much space where is used on my partitions?? |
| 00:17.14 | KarlosII | df -h |
| 00:17.15 | thomas_adam | johs__: df -h |
| 00:17.20 | johs__ | thx |
| 00:17.27 | krille | x crashes on shift+backspace, but only sometimes, weird |
| 00:17.53 | eeyore- | krille: sometimes i move my mouse and X crashes ... word! |
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| 00:18.09 | nono | eeyore-: I just saw at update now... I did not try to fix it yet... dunno if I have time... |
| 00:18.17 | helix | the key is to upgrade X until it works and then _stop_ |
| 00:18.21 | Dabian | krille : No, it doesn't crash, it zaps, and you can turn it off. Its not shift+backspace, its ctrl+alt+backspace, I reccon. |
| 00:18.35 | thomas_adam | Dabian: You're special. |
| 00:18.39 | Dabian | helix : I hear ya. :) |
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| 00:18.48 | Dabian | thomas_adam : What do you mean? |
| 00:18.56 | krille | Dabian, im well aware of zapping, this isnt it |
| 00:19.04 | helix | he means that he named his teddy bear after you |
| 00:19.08 | Dabian | krille : Oh ok. |
| 00:19.12 | thomas_adam | helix: No. |
| 00:19.13 | Dabian | helix : :-) |
| 00:19.15 | helix | :( |
| 00:19.19 | Dabian | thomas_adam : Thanks! |
| 00:19.30 | thomas_adam | I really need to get some sleep. |
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| 00:19.45 | Dabian | thomas_adam : Me2 .. |
| 00:19.52 | helix | thomas_adam: but you're being such a friendly IRC helper. |
| 00:19.58 | thomas_adam | Dabian: You are not sharing my bed. |
| 00:20.00 | krille | any idea what i can do to solve the problem? |
| 00:20.00 | AUSTRALIA | So can anyone (except dabian) hazard a guess why pam_securetty.so allows anyone to login with any password? |
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| 00:20.27 | helix | :(, again |
| 00:20.30 | thomas_adam | krille: Checked the BTS? No, didn't think so. |
| 00:20.39 | Dabian | krille : No, sorry. I was allmost sure it was the zap thing .. Maybe you installed something you shouldn't have. apt-get install apt-listbugs |
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| 00:21.41 | Justin | AUSTRALIA: pam_securetty has nothing to do with passwords |
| 00:21.42 | krille | thomas_adam: thanks for the friendly help |
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| 00:22.07 | thomas_adam | krille: You're quite welcome. |
| 00:22.12 | thomas_adam | o_O |
| 00:22.28 | AUSTRALIA | Justin: That's what I thought. So why does auth requisite pam_securetty.so cause such promiscous behavoiur then ? |
| 00:22.33 | Dabian | thomas_adam : Sorry, I'm just kidding ya. :) |
| 00:22.41 | thomas_adam | o_O |
| 00:22.58 | thomas_adam | KarlosII: bye bye now. |
| 00:22.59 | Justin | AUSTRALIA: because it should NOT say autho requisite. |
| 00:23.02 | eeyore- | has this turned into #mutual-admiration-club ? |
| 00:23.18 | Dabian | eeyore- : Naw, its been like this for the past four years. |
| 00:23.19 | guestish | eeyore-: thats something im better off not knowing |
| 00:23.19 | krille | thomas_adam: ill miss you |
| 00:23.21 | Justin | er i mean, it should |
| 00:23.34 | Justin | but if you are having a problem with passwords, pam_securetty has nothing to do with it |
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| 00:23.55 | AUSTRALIA | Justin: OK. So what should it say then ? |
| 00:24.03 | guestish | thomas_adam: i suppose this is an example of why i should just leave my irc client open on the channel... |
| 00:24.14 | Dabian | AUSTRALIA : Type: /nick Australia |
| 00:24.26 | Dabian | Thanks |
| 00:24.28 | thomas_adam | guestish: I suppose. |
| 00:24.30 | Australia | NP |
| 00:24.32 | thomas_adam | :( |
| 00:24.36 | guestish | heh |
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| 00:24.43 | Dabian | :) |
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| 00:25.12 | MSTDLR | how do i change my ip address |
| 00:25.29 | thomas_adam | MSTDLR: man 5 interfaces |
| 00:25.37 | colonel_panik | !interfaces |
| 00:25.38 | dpkg | Your network configuration in potato and later is done in the file /etc/network/interfaces. "man 5 interfaces" for docs, (zless /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz for an example). start and stop your networking with ifup -a and ifdown -a respectively. See also "dhcp client". for laptops, use /etc/pcmcia/network.opts instead or see "man resolv.conf" for DNS or ask me about "static route" |
| 00:25.58 | MSTDLR | k |
| 00:25.59 | thomas_adam | WTF are there so many references to potato? |
| 00:26.00 | Dabian | MSTDLR : /sbin/ifconfig <nic> <new ip> # This is one way to do it, but it wont last. |
| 00:26.11 | colonel_panik | thomas_adam: I don't know |
| 00:26.19 | thomas_adam | colonel_panik: I wasn't asking you. |
| 00:26.21 | colonel_panik | thomas_adam: I don't even know anyone that still runs potato |
| 00:26.28 | Dabian | thomas_adam : Potato was pretty revolutionary with network :) |
| 00:26.38 | guestish | thomas_adam: mr potato head is everyone's favorite character in toy story, didnt you know that? :) |
| 00:26.41 | colonel_panik | thomas_adam: well erkay there, bud. |
| 00:26.44 | Dabian | thomas_adam : Brigeing, ipchains etc. etc. |
| 00:26.44 | thomas_adam | Have none of you heard of 'rhetorics'? |
| 00:26.59 | Dabian | !rhetorics |
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| 00:27.07 | colonel_panik | !pseudo intellectual |
| 00:27.18 | thomas_adam | Dabian: /msg dpkg dict rhetoric |
| 00:27.26 | guestish | !+dict rhetoric |
| 00:27.28 | dpkg | Dictionary 'rhetoric' (4 shown; 8 total): high flown style; excessive use of verbal ornamentation ;; study of the technique and rules for using language effectively (especially in public speaking) ;; 2. Oratory; the art of speaking with propriety, elegance, and force. --Locke. ;; 4. Fig. : The power of persuasion or attraction; that which allures or charms.. |
| 00:27.35 | colonel_panik | lol |
| 00:27.43 | guestish | thomas_adam: ": The power of persuasion or attraction; that which allures or charms.."? |
| 00:27.44 | Australia | I guess I'll just have to RTF PAM Howto |
| 00:27.44 | Dabian | Well, actually I just wondered if it had the factoid. :) |
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| 00:28.05 | guestish | thomas_adam: nope, dont know |
| 00:28.09 | stew | Australia: have you tried using a /etc/pam.d/login from another machine? |
| 00:28.19 | Dabian | oh well |
| 00:28.28 | guestish | thomas_adam: i think you ment retorical |
| 00:28.31 | Dabian | I guess I'll risk the rebooting .. I have to do it sooner or later anyhow :) |
| 00:28.46 | thomas_adam | guestish: Don't do too much of that, please. |
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| 00:28.54 | guestish | thomas_adam: too much of what? |
| 00:28.59 | thomas_adam | guestish: thinking. |
| 00:29.05 | guestish | thomas_adam: oh, right, ill try to cut back |
| 00:29.08 | eeyore- | night, guys |
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| 00:29.15 | thomas_adam | eeyore-: Sleep soundly. |
| 00:29.15 | guestish | s/ment/meant/ |
| 00:29.18 | Australia | stew: unfortunately I don't have another machine here. But the one I'm using is straight from the pam package. |
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| 00:29.34 | ryon | Hrm, I need help. I installed grub in the MBR and I can't get back in to XP/2000 now. I rootnoverify the proper partition, make active, and then chainloader, and it just hangs. Same thing with a menu item doing the same thing. |
| 00:29.34 | guestish | hum... |
| 00:29.48 | thomas_adam | ryon: you need to chainload it, RTFM. |
| 00:30.09 | Dabian | ryon : You don't need help, you need celebration :) |
| 00:30.16 | guestish | ryon: there should be an example config in the menu.lst, just use that and change it to the drive that windows is on |
| 00:30.17 | Dabian | ryon : No more win2k!! :-) |
| 00:30.36 | guestish | Dabian: there are worse windows versions than win2k pro ;) |
| 00:31.06 | Dabian | questish: Well, I guess you can't too much of a bad thing? :) |
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| 00:31.56 | guestish | questish: i've never seen you here before :) |
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| 00:32.27 | guestish | Dabian: your font is betraying you |
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| 00:33.05 | Dabian | guestish Oh .. q vs g ? |
| 00:33.12 | guestish | Dabian: ;) |
| 00:33.18 | Dabian | guestish: Well, I guess you can't too much of a bad thing? :) |
| 00:33.26 | krille | aah |
| 00:33.31 | guestish | !+grammar |
| 00:33.31 | dpkg | grammar is probably a system of pitfalls thoughtfully prepared for the feet for the self-made man, along the path by which he advances to distinction. |
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| 00:33.38 | Dabian | krille : What was it? |
| 00:33.40 | krille | im abble to reproduce the error now |
| 00:33.48 | guestish | Dabian: in the windows world you can :) |
| 00:34.01 | krille | its when im using my dvorak keymap |
| 00:34.14 | krille | something wromg with that one |
| 00:34.16 | Dabian | guestish : Well, I guess I'll keep the door to world safely closed then. :) |
| 00:34.18 | krille | gana look it up |
| 00:34.30 | Dabian | guestish : That world, even. |
| 00:34.36 | guestish | Dabian: well you better say goodbye to your friends and family then ;) |
| 00:35.03 | Dabian | guestish : Why? |
| 00:35.31 | guestish | Dabian: windows owns 90% of the desktop market |
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| 00:35.51 | Dabian | guestish : Not here. ;) |
| 00:36.16 | guestish | Dabian: we are the few and the proud (and in some cases the insanely fanatical) |
| 00:36.22 | Dabian | guestish : Here it owns 0% of the desktop market. :) |
| 00:36.42 | guestish | Dabian: thats what, 300 people and 323 bots? |
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| 00:37.06 | zeo33x | what do you people use for monitoring logs? |
| 00:37.08 | guestish | Dabian: make that 300 people and 324 bots |
| 00:37.09 | Dabian | guestish : Not really .. I think a lot more than half the people I know, runs gnu/Linux, either exclusively, regularly or sometimes. |
| 00:37.29 | guestish | zeo33x: my eyes? |
| 00:37.46 | guestish | Dabian: you must know some techinical people |
| 00:38.11 | zeo33x | guestish: i was looking more for a program |
| 00:38.21 | guestish | zeo33x: well why didnt you say so ;) |
| 00:38.37 | zeo33x | guestish: well now you know |
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| 00:38.46 | colonel_panik | !bookmarks |
| 00:38.47 | dpkg | bookmarks is probably kuro5hin.org |
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| 00:38.54 | colonel_panik | hrm nope |
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| 00:39.11 | guestish | zeo33x: apt-cache spits out squid |
| 00:39.19 | colonel_panik | where are the firefox bookmarks located? i want to bring them over to epiphany |
| 00:39.32 | Dabian | ok .. going to try and reboot .. |
| 00:39.37 | scz | reboot for what? |
| 00:39.43 | guestish | colonel_panik: export them |
| 00:39.46 | krille | hahah |
| 00:39.50 | zeo33x | guestish: apt-cache is retarded then |
| 00:39.57 | krille | found my problem |
| 00:39.58 | Dabian | guestish : Well, maybe I just have few friends .. but then again .. I count my father because he uses my computer from time to time :P |
| 00:40.00 | colonel_panik | guestish: when I do that, it doesn't give a dialog as to where it wants me to put them |
| 00:40.01 | guestish | zeo33x: squidtaild? |
| 00:40.07 | guestish | Dabian: heh |
| 00:40.09 | scz | dabian: wtf are you rebooting for? |
| 00:40.17 | joh | !x.org |
| 00:40.17 | dpkg | [x.org] <daniels> x.org won't make it into sid for at least a while, possibly ever. right now we're working on making the modular tree (fd.o) actually work and be useful with the xfree86/xorg drivers, and that's where debian is probably going. |
| 00:40.19 | guestish | he left... |
| 00:40.31 | Dabian | scz : I want to install a DVD burner, and switch the NIC. |
| 00:40.35 | guestish | who cares about x.org anyways, xfree 4.3 is fine |
| 00:40.41 | ryon | oh, I turned on LBA. It works now. I am dumb. |
| 00:40.42 | zeo33x | guestish: thats more monitoring squid exclusively |
| 00:40.44 | zeo33x | arg |
| 00:40.53 | guestish | zeo33x: prelude-lml? |
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| 00:41.03 | ryon | it was on the third page of google results =P |
| 00:41.06 | joh | guestish: I hoped x.org would be better than xfree. xfree is terrible, in my opinion. |
| 00:41.06 | colonel_panik | oops |
| 00:41.06 | scz | dabian ahh I thought something software :) |
| 00:41.09 | scz | ;) |
| 00:41.14 | Dabian | Whats thing about x.org ? Thats the "real" X, as opposed to "XFree86", right? |
| 00:41.24 | guestish | joh: i know some people who use it, its just X11 with a different license |
| 00:41.25 | scz | other way around |
| 00:41.28 | guestish | joh: no difference at all |
| 00:41.29 | Dabian | scz : Ahh .. thanks for trying to save me from myself! :) |
| 00:41.33 | scz | Xfree86 is the "real" X is a fork |
| 00:41.36 | scz | that is now the main distro |
| 00:41.46 | scz | or main source tree for most distros rather |
| 00:41.57 | guestish | Dabian: oh, xfree just underwent some licensing restrictions which is not there on x.org's version |
| 00:42.03 | Dabian | Yes .. but X.org was the original thing, right? |
| 00:42.06 | joh | guestish: I think it's a bit different... |
| 00:42.07 | scz | no |
| 00:42.08 | scz | Xfree86 was |
| 00:42.16 | scz | was/is |
| 00:42.19 | guestish | joh: maybe under the hood |
| 00:42.27 | joh | guestish: a friend of mine is using it and he says it's slightly faster. |
| 00:42.30 | joh | guestish: yes. |
| 00:42.35 | Dabian | scz : What about the X Consordium .. did they make XFree86 or something else? |
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| 00:42.47 | guestish | joh: slightly faster? maybe his brain just was operating slightly faster that day ;) |
| 00:42.49 | joh | guestish: as both xfree and x.org are forks of the old x11... |
| 00:42.56 | Dabian | joh: Oh! |
| 00:42.56 | joh | guestish: no, I don't think so :P |
| 00:43.03 | ryon | weird, since when does debian choose the stricter licensed software as the default? |
| 00:43.04 | scz | ahh there you go |
| 00:43.08 | Dabian | scz: Sorry .. I confused X11 and x.org, I guess. :) |
| 00:43.12 | scz | :) |
| 00:43.21 | thomas_adam | Hangman anyone? |
| 00:43.25 | thomas_adam | Here's one: |
| 00:43.26 | ryon | more strictly, even. |
| 00:43.30 | thomas_adam | M____ |
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| 00:43.33 | guestish | thomas_adam: try me |
| 00:43.39 | guestish | thomas_adam: um...A |
| 00:43.44 | thomas_adam | nope |
| 00:43.45 | joh | thomas_adam: E |
| 00:43.50 | guestish | thomas_adam: I |
| 00:43.50 | thomas_adam | nope |
| 00:43.54 | guestish | thomas_adam: O |
| 00:43.57 | Dabian | ok .. back to rebooting :) |
| 00:43.58 | joh | thomas_adam: if this is an acronym.... |
| 00:43.59 | thomas_adam | MO_O_ |
| 00:44.05 | scz | motor |
| 00:44.06 | guestish | mo_o_... |
| 00:44.06 | Dabian | no wait |
| 00:44.10 | thomas_adam | nope |
| 00:44.15 | guestish | thomas_adam: R |
| 00:44.15 | rue_mohr | anyone ever seen a "refill station" for steadtler lumicolour pens? |
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| 00:44.17 | Dabian | Just trying to fish a little advise |
| 00:44.21 | thomas_adam | MORO_ |
| 00:44.25 | guestish | moron! |
| 00:44.27 | thomas_adam | !! |
| 00:44.28 | dpkg | I am not your damn csh prompt! |
| 00:44.28 | joh | thomas_adam: moron! |
| 00:44.30 | joh | goddamit |
| 00:44.34 | scz | wow |
| 00:44.47 | joh | we should have a hangman bot :P |
| 00:44.53 | guestish | or at least a trivia bot |
| 00:44.57 | joh | yeah |
| 00:45.02 | scz | considering that it spams the whole channel I don't think it is good idea for this channel :) |
| 00:45.03 | nekrataal | hey, i have a question..is quite simple, but i cant remeber and man fstab isnt helping...What should i put on the line for a vfat partition to be writeable to any regular user? |
| 00:45.05 | Dabian | I have a DVD-burner, a CD-burner, and a Harddisk .. -> I recon I connect the HD as Primary master, but what about the other stuff? |
| 00:45.13 | rue_mohr | people say these things but dont do them |
| 00:45.16 | guestish | scz: it'll be more intelligent than the normal stuff that spews out here =P |
| 00:45.18 | joh | scz: true, perhaps in #debian-trivia or something :P |
| 00:45.18 | Dabian | nekrataal : user |
| 00:45.34 | Dabian | nekrataal : user, noauto |
| 00:45.34 | guestish | nekrataal: user |
| 00:45.34 | scz | some debianesk trivia. What does apt-get moo produce |
| 00:45.35 | scz | haha |
| 00:45.37 | scz | crap like that |
| 00:45.38 | scz | clever.. |
| 00:45.40 | thomas_adam | a cow!! |
| 00:45.50 | scz | mOo |
| 00:45.51 | guestish | nekrataal: auto just determines if its mounted at startup or not |
| 00:45.55 | Dabian | /dev/sda1/pen vfat user,noauto,noatime00 |
| 00:46.05 | guestish | Dabian: that will not be mounted at boot |
| 00:46.07 | scz | user means that the user that mounts it has the access |
| 00:46.19 | nekrataal | mmm |
| 00:46.19 | guestish | thomas_adam: an ASCII cow |
| 00:46.25 | Dabian | guestish : Right, and it shouldn't .. thats my pendrive USB-thing for memory. |
| 00:46.28 | guestish | scz: dunno |
| 00:46.32 | guestish | Dabian: ooh, ok |
| 00:46.45 | nekrataal | and to mount on boot? |
| 00:46.46 | guestish | scz: oh, heh, nvm |
| 00:46.49 | guestish | nekrataal: auto |
| 00:46.52 | nekrataal | ok |
| 00:47.02 | nekrataal | to be writeable just user? |
| 00:47.04 | nekrataal | no umas? |
| 00:47.07 | Dabian | nekrataal : Not possible, if you want to make userwriteable .. well .. never mind. |
| 00:47.10 | nekrataal | umask=022? |
| 00:47.21 | guestish | uid=1000 |
| 00:47.25 | guestish | i think |
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| 00:47.33 | nekrataal | mm |
| 00:47.34 | guestish | i could be wrong ;) |
| 00:47.38 | Dabian | holycow ! |
| 00:47.40 | Dabian | :) |
| 00:47.46 | guestish | /dev/hdb1 /mnt/win_c vfat auto,user,rw,nosuid,rw,exec,async,uid=1000 0 0 |
| 00:47.48 | guestish | thats mine ;) |
| 00:48.13 | nekrataal | :D |
| 00:48.19 | Dabian | guestish : Why do you use vfat? |
| 00:48.19 | nekrataal | ill try yours guestish |
| 00:48.24 | guestish | nekrataal: k |
| 00:48.24 | Dabian | guestish : its a harddisk, right? |
| 00:48.31 | guestish | Dabian: yes...it is a hard disk |
| 00:48.32 | nekrataal | its the most compatible format... |
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| 00:48.43 | guestish | Dabian: and i dual boot between windows XP and debian |
| 00:48.51 | nekrataal | for sharing files with other systems... |
| 00:48.58 | Dabian | guestish : ext2/ext3 or reiserfs, or xfs, or virtually anything, is better than vfat on a harddrive? |
| 00:48.59 | guestish | Dabian: i've had bad experiences with winex |
| 00:49.05 | Dabian | guestish : auch |
| 00:49.14 | Dabian | guestish : Dont' run winex then. |
| 00:49.19 | guestish | Dabian: i dont, i run windows xp |
| 00:49.29 | Dabian | guestish : Well, your pain. :) |
| 00:49.46 | guestish | Dabian: actually there is remarkably little pain when i run only games on winxp |
| 00:49.53 | guestish | Dabian: and i dont like being ctcp verisoned |
| 00:50.03 | Dabian | guestish : I don't mind, I run bx. :) |
| 00:50.06 | guestish | Dabian: heh |
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| 00:50.23 | guestish | Dabian: what i use is a secret ;) |
| 00:50.36 | Dabian | guestish : I run games on Debian GNU/Linux sarge. ;) |
| 00:50.41 | guestish | Dabian: your loss |
| 00:50.47 | Dabian | guestish : No pain, no game ;) |
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| 00:51.05 | guestish | linux has remarkably few games, even though many of the ones it does have is fun in a simple way |
| 00:51.07 | Dabian | Actually, I'm quite happy about it though. |
| 00:51.15 | guestish | s/is/are/ |
| 00:51.22 | guestish | !congratulate dabian |
| 00:51.23 | dpkg | huzzah dabian, you did it! |
| 00:51.42 | Dabian | guestish : Well, in that case you must have remarkable much more time for games than I do .. I find there is a lot of games for gnu/linux :) |
| 00:52.00 | guestish | Dabian: i prefer more...complex games with better eye candy ;) |
| 00:52.06 | Dabian | guestish : Sometimes you might have to install something that there isn't a .deb for in the standard distribution though. |
| 00:52.28 | Dabian | guestish : You can get eye candy with GNU/Linux .. try #gametome |
| 00:52.33 | Dabian | or is it just #tome? |
| 00:52.35 | Dabian | !games |
| 00:52.36 | dpkg | methinks games is Some cool multiplayer games: koth, netris, quake, xevil, bzflag or the only piece of software that is allowed to be non-free, because they are more like an art form than a program, or http://www.uniball-central.com |
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| 00:52.52 | Dabian | hmm .. that seems old. |
| 00:52.54 | thomas_adam | !xteddy |
| 00:52.54 | dpkg | xteddy is probably your new cuddly friend. Find him here: http://www.itn.liu.se/~stegu/xteddy/xteddy_info.html |
| 00:53.03 | guestish | lol |
| 00:53.05 | holycow | Dabian, ! |
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| 00:53.37 | Dabian | #gametome |
| 00:53.49 | Dabian | !games is also #gametome for newer games |
| 00:53.49 | dpkg | okay, Dabian |
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| 00:54.18 | Dabian | !games is also WikiWikiWeb:LinuxGames |
| 00:54.18 | dpkg | Dabian: okay |
| 00:54.24 | guestish | thomas_adam: it doesnt do anything |
| 00:54.30 | thomas_adam | guestish: ? |
| 00:54.35 | guestish | thomas_adam: xteddy |
| 00:54.41 | thomas_adam | guestish: That's the whole point! |
| 00:54.43 | daft | maby a silli question but is there a Program that can stream X visuals in a mpeg format |
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| 00:54.48 | guestish | thomas_adam: it just sits there... |
| 00:54.54 | thomas_adam | guestish: ... looking cute. :) |
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| 00:55.06 | guestish | thomas_adam: and stares at me...though its beady eyes...staring...and staring...and staring... |
| 00:55.09 | thomas_adam | daft: ? |
| 00:55.15 | thomas_adam | !paranoid guestish |
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| 00:55.37 | guestish | im not paranoid, i just dont want the secret government officials to see me |
| 00:55.42 | guestish | :) |
| 00:55.48 | daft | I want my kde desktop broadcasted as a mpeg |
| 00:55.52 | Dabian | guestish : I guess there might be gametypes that is available for windows, that is not available for GNU/Linux .. I have not missed any games though. |
| 00:55.56 | daft | or some thing like that |
| 00:56.02 | daft | no client like vnc |
| 00:56.04 | guestish | Dabian: um..yeah..there are... |
| 00:56.10 | Erpo | Afternoon all. When I try to apt-get install gimp gimp-data, it tells me it wants to remove gimp-nonfree. Won't that remove gif support? Is there any way around it? |
| 00:56.22 | guestish | Dabian: there are some as large as 3 gigs |
| 00:56.34 | zinx | daft: you could make a script that takes a lot of screenshots and pipes them to an mpeg encoder |
| 00:56.42 | Dabian | guestish : Well, take americas army, thats about 2 gig. |
| 00:56.48 | guestish | Dabian: um...no... |
| 00:56.51 | guestish | Dabian: its not |
| 00:57.03 | Dabian | guestish : Yes it is, I have it installed, you see. :) |
| 00:57.04 | daft | :o |
| 00:57.08 | guestish | not unless they stuck on a bunch of tacky addons |
| 00:57.13 | daft | yea it is a possiblity |
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| 00:57.33 | guestish | Dabian: and thats windows only... |
| 00:57.34 | Dabian | guestish : Well, I'm not talking about the original version, I'm talking about the current version. |
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| 00:57.41 | guestish | Dabian: right? |
| 00:57.43 | Dabian | guestish : 2.1 |
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| 00:58.15 | Dabian | guestish : No, thats GNU/Linux .. check their website, its for GNU/Linux .. I think there is a windows version also .. but who cares about that? |
| 00:58.43 | Dabian | guestish : Be carefull that you have time when you unpack the game though. :) |
| 00:58.55 | idnar_ | hmmph |
| 00:58.55 | guestish | Dabian: wow, i should try it out some time |
| 00:59.14 | guestish | idnar_: hmmph yourself =P |
| 00:59.17 | zinx | mmmm ET |
| 00:59.17 | guestish | idnar_: hey, so am i! :) |
| 00:59.19 | Dabian | guestish : Oh .. and unfortunately, I must advise that use the nvidia X server, and kernel when you try it .. the free one is simply not fast enough yet. |
| 00:59.21 | daft | j #kde |
| 00:59.30 | guestish | Dabian: you mean nv? |
| 00:59.33 | Dabian | zinx : ET is great too :) |
| 00:59.40 | guestish | Dabian: thats a 2d non-accelerated driver |
| 00:59.44 | Dabian | questish : The packages in non-free |
| 00:59.53 | guestish | i use the nvidia official drivers... |
| 00:59.53 | zinx | ET's the best team FPS there is ;) |
| 00:59.58 | guestish | and i am NOT questish! |
| 01:00.06 | Dabian | sorry guestish :) |
| 01:00.07 | idnar | heh |
| 01:00.09 | guestish | :) |
| 01:00.37 | Dabian | guestish : I assure you, the one in non-free *is* 3d-accellerated .. I run AA in 1024 with everything on high detail ;) |
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| 01:01.03 | guestish | Dabian: that would be the official one |
| 01:01.06 | idnar | the one in non-free is the nvidia official driver |
| 01:01.08 | zinx | Dabian: the nVidia drivers in debian are ancient :/ |
| 01:01.14 | idnar | "official" |
| 01:01.17 | LSorensen | zinx: they are? |
| 01:01.25 | daft | zinx: how to make a screen shot with kde? |
| 01:01.28 | zinx | LSorensen: they're still 2xxx, aren't they? |
| 01:01.33 | LSorensen | zinx: no |
| 01:01.38 | guestish | zinx: not in sid :) |
| 01:01.38 | zinx | daft: there are a lot of ways :x |
| 01:01.51 | zinx | oh? 6106 then? |
| 01:01.52 | daft | commandline way? |
| 01:01.54 | LSorensen | zinx: 6106 in sid, 5xxx in sarge |
| 01:01.55 | Dabian | guestish : Same with Wulfenstein Enemy Territory .. Except it seems I get some lag there from time to time - i think its network related though. |
| 01:01.57 | guestish | :) |
| 01:01.59 | zinx | ah, nice |
| 01:02.07 | LSorensen | zinx: even woody backports.org has 4496 |
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| 01:02.15 | LSorensen | zinx: assuming it hasn't gone to 5xxx yet |
| 01:02.16 | guestish | Dabian: i've played games on linux before... |
| 01:02.24 | Wyzard | Erpo: The changelog for the gimp source package specifically says that gimp-nonfree and gimp1.2-nonfree have been removed |
| 01:02.39 | Wyzard | Erpo: The upgrade is getting rid of an obsolete package |
| 01:02.40 | idnar | GIF isn't non-free anymore |
| 01:02.42 | LSorensen | zinx: the debian packages work very well (generally much better than nvidia's stupid installer) |
| 01:02.57 | zinx | LSorensen: no doubt :) |
| 01:02.58 | LSorensen | idnar: as of what date? |
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| 01:03.16 | Dabian | guestish : A lot happens now, I think .. we need more press on games for GNU/Linux though .. I'd like to pay for good games, if I can buy a version that will *only* run on gnu/linux .. so that the manifactures knows that its a platform they *have* to support. |
| 01:03.18 | stew | daft: use import from the imagemagick package |
| 01:03.20 | idnar | depends on which country you're in |
| 01:03.32 | guestish | Dabian: um, yeah |
| 01:03.40 | guestish | Dabian: i'd just be happy with commerical games on linux |
| 01:03.54 | Wyzard | LSorensen: It was mentioned on Slashdot a few days ago that the Unisys patent expired but IBM still has a patent on apparently the same thing, which doesn't expire for another few years... but as the article says, it's generally believed that this IBM patent isn't defensible |
| 01:04.20 | LSorensen | Wyzard: makes sense. It was always unisys making a stink about gif's anyhow. never ibm |
| 01:04.32 | zinx | IBM's not likely to go after people anyway :/ |
| 01:04.35 | Dabian | guestish : Right :) |
| 01:04.42 | guestish | ;) |
| 01:05.06 | daft | ty |
| 01:05.09 | Dabian | guestish : I like games as Neverball also though .. and I look forward to check out 3D poker, stuntcars, Mortal Kombat etc. etc. |
| 01:05.17 | idnar | Unisys U.S. LZW Patent No. 4,558,302 expired on June 20, 2003, the counterpart patents in the United Kingdom, France, Germany and Italy expired on June 18, 2004, the Japanese counterpart patents expired on June 20, 2004 and the counterpart Canadian patent expired on July 7, 2004. |
| 01:05.19 | guestish | Dabian: never ball? |
| 01:05.32 | Dabian | guestish : Yeah .. the one where you get to collect coins ? |
| 01:05.45 | Wyzard | http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/07/06/1717243&mode=thread&tid=136&tid=152&tid=155&tid=185&tid=187&tid=99 |
| 01:05.52 | Dabian | guestish : There is also Neverput, the minigulf? |
| 01:05.56 | idnar | I can't fathom why anyone would want to use it anyway |
| 01:06.01 | Dabian | guestish : apt-get install neverball neverput |
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| 01:06.19 | idnar | aside from maintaining legacy stuff |
| 01:06.20 | guestish | Dabian: got a good list of games for linux? :) |
| 01:06.26 | Dabian | guestish : They're 3d also |
| 01:06.28 | ac1d[pc] | is there a way to get xbindkeys functionality in shell? |
| 01:06.33 | Dabian | !tell guestish about games |
| 01:06.45 | Dabian | hmm |
| 01:06.46 | guestish | Dabian: any good 3d ones? |
| 01:07.00 | Dabian | guestish : The wiki wiki web link is good |
| 01:07.07 | Dabian | I actually contributed to that one myself |
| 01:07.10 | LSorensen | ac1d[pc]: yes, but I can't remember what program maps keys right now |
| 01:07.12 | guestish | Dabian: uniball? |
| 01:07.18 | Dabian | no |
| 01:07.24 | Dabian | you know wiki? |
| 01:07.26 | ac1d[pc] | ahmm |
| 01:07.28 | motardo | anyone here use biarch debian? |
| 01:07.28 | ac1d[pc] | well |
| 01:07.41 | ac1d[pc] | at least now i know that there is an app, i'll google.. thankds |
| 01:07.43 | ac1d[pc] | -d |
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| 01:08.23 | Dabian | questish : There is also #LinuxGames on efnet .. |
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| 01:08.36 | helix | cafuego: . |
| 01:08.37 | kruzi | hey all. how can i change the timezone from what it is to GMT+0 from command line ? |
| 01:08.38 | LSorensen | ac1d[pc]: loadkeys/dumpkeys/showkeys I think |
| 01:08.43 | guestish | k |
| 01:08.44 | Dabian | guestish: http://www.uniball-central.com |
| 01:08.46 | LSorensen | kruzi: tzconfig? |
| 01:08.51 | Dabian | guestish : That is a good link after all. |
| 01:08.59 | guestish | Dabian: anyways if you think of any other good ones post on #gametome, time for me to eat dinner |
| 01:09.06 | helix | cafuego: this is good spam. i like how the russians have formatted this one in particular.. |
| 01:09.10 | FreeBox | somebody know if openssh- 3.4-p1-1 have an bug? |
| 01:09.15 | Dabian | guestish : But the other link is also good .. too bad you know not wiki wiki web |
| 01:09.28 | Dabian | guestish : No wait .. I got the link from you |
| 01:09.36 | LSorensen | FreeBox: did you check bugs.debian.org? |
| 01:09.44 | cafuego | helix: See the badger bit? :-) |
| 01:09.50 | kruzi | LSorensen: its on redhat, hence i dont know ? |
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| 01:09.56 | Dabian | oh well |
| 01:10.01 | cafuego | helix: I was wondering if I should send sussudio a copy as well. |
| 01:10.04 | unixfool` | anyone know how to initiate a zone transfer with bind? |
| 01:10.04 | Dabian | guestish : Hang out on #gametome |
| 01:10.06 | FreeBox | LSorensen: i cant navigate |
| 01:10.06 | helix | КАЖДОМУ УЧАСТНИКУ ПРЕДОСТАВЛЯЕТСЯ |
| 01:10.08 | helix | that rules |
| 01:10.16 | Dabian | helix : Whats that? |
| 01:10.17 | thomas_adam | !anyone |
| 01:10.18 | dpkg | ***anyone: No such nick/channel - and yes, there probably is someone, somewhere, who knows or runs it; that doesn't mean *I* do. |
| 01:10.21 | Erpo | Could anyone tell me which command I sohuld use to list the files contained in a package I'd like to apt-get? |
| 01:10.21 | helix | Dabian: russian |
| 01:10.24 | helix | thomas_adam: you're still awake! |
| 01:10.30 | peterS | what does it say? |
| 01:10.31 | Dabian | helix : How do I get to see the chars? |
| 01:10.34 | zinx | <3 utf-8 |
| 01:10.34 | thomas_adam | helix: Of course. :) |
| 01:10.40 | helix | Dabian: i dunno, join the 21st century somehow |
| 01:10.48 | FreeBox | LSorensen: im in a hotel, and it need pay to surf in the internet, but with irc works :D |
| 01:10.52 | Dabian | helix: I'm in the console righ tnow. |
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| 01:11.11 | helix | Dabian: which is apropos of nothing |
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| 01:11.33 | peterS | thomas_adam: what dpkg really needs is a few more factoids |
| 01:11.33 | LSorensen | Erpo: before or after installing it? |
| 01:11.41 | cafuego | peterS: "Order of the realization of the foreign economic operations" |
| 01:11.44 | Erpo | LSorensen: before. |
| 01:11.50 | peterS | cafuego: useful to know, thanks |
| 01:11.53 | helix | cafuego: you should call the number at the bottom |
| 01:11.53 | thomas_adam | peterS: :| |
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| 01:12.01 | cafuego | peterS: Call (O44) 23З-4669, 2З7-9OO5 for more info. |
| 01:12.14 | peterS | cafuego: that part I don't get |
| 01:12.22 | LSorensen | Erpo: install apt-file, and use that |
| 01:12.56 | Erpo | LSorensen: thanks. :) |
| 01:13.18 | thomas_adam | dpkg does what he is whored to do. |
| 01:13.18 | dpkg | okay, thomas_adam |
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| 01:13.18 | thomas_adam | see. :) |
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| 01:13.19 | thomas_adam | shit |
| 01:13.19 | Dabian | thomas_adam : Behave |
| 01:13.22 | thomas_adam | dpkg forgot dpkg does what he |
| 01:13.23 | dpkg | thomas_adam: are you smoking crack? |
| 01:13.23 | LSorensen | !does what he |
| 01:13.24 | dpkg | from memory, does what he is whored to do. |
| 01:13.28 | kruzi | hey all. how can i change the timezone from what it is to GMT+0 from command line ? its on redhat, hence i dont know ? |
| 01:13.39 | Dabian | LSorensen : Du er da ellers dansk? |
| 01:13.42 | thomas_adam | kruzi: tzconfig |
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| 01:13.44 | LSorensen | Dabian: Ja |
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| 01:14.19 | kruzi | thomas_adam: i run tzconfig and it saids not found |
| 01:14.48 | thomas_adam | kruzi: run it as root. |
| 01:14.56 | cafuego | helix: The content mentions that if you attend a semilar, you get to keep a "copy of evidence". |
| 01:15.00 | cafuego | seminal |
| 01:15.02 | cafuego | seminar |
| 01:15.03 | cafuego | arrrgh |
| 01:15.08 | kruzi | thomas_adam: i am |
| 01:15.18 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: a similar seminal seminar? |
| 01:15.22 | thomas_adam | kruzi: Then root's $PATH is fucked. |
| 01:15.23 | helix | hey, i like evidence |
| 01:15.29 | thomas_adam | kruzi: /usr/sbin/tzconfig |
| 01:15.53 | kruzi | [root@Eddy root]# /usr/sbin/tzconfig |
| 01:15.53 | kruzi | -bash: /usr/sbin/tzconfig: No such file or directory |
| 01:15.53 | idnar | kruzi: what does redhat have to do with this? |
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| 01:16.03 | cafuego | well, none that don't just have "dy>" as message body. |
| 01:16.05 | thomas_adam | kruzi: Then you're not running debian. |
| 01:16.06 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: hrm... I haven't gotten jewish spam... most of it that I've had has bene anti-jewish spam... |
| 01:16.09 | LSorensen | dpkg: forget does what he |
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| 01:16.10 | dpkg | LSorensen: i forgot does what he |
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| 01:16.19 | kruzi | thomas_adams: yes, its running redhat |
| 01:16.24 | thomas_adam | !not debian |
| 01:16.25 | dpkg | Knoppix isn't, Libranet isn't, Morphix isn't, lnx-bbc isn't, *your* installation you have right now ISN'T.... see if there is a channel available relevant to your distribution, if not, tough. Your questions do not belong here. |
| 01:16.27 | zinx | kruzi: this is #debian |
| 01:16.50 | kruzi | zinx: yeah, i though people here might know also, as im normally a debian user |
| 01:16.55 | cafuego | מוצרים לקידום מכירות של העסק שלך |
| 01:17.04 | zinx | kruzi: people in here know how to run it on debian. as you've seen, it's not the same on redhat. |
| 01:17.06 | dondelelcaro | ENOUTF8 |
| 01:17.13 | thomas_adam | kruzi: Don't be a fool. Ask in #rdhat |
| 01:17.13 | zinx | kruzi: ask somewhere where people know about redhat. |
| 01:17.17 | cafuego | !mock dondelelcaro |
| 01:17.20 | LSorensen | kruzi: how the timezone files are managed is distribution specific |
| 01:17.32 | kruzi | its ok, i got it. |
| 01:17.37 | LSorensen | kruzi: I left redhat years ago, so I am not sure. Might be timeconf or timeconfig |
| 01:17.38 | kruzi | does anyone know what area is GMT+0 ? |
| 01:17.39 | sortIT | kruzi, can you set it with the 'date' command |
| 01:17.45 | zinx | kruzi: GMT |
| 01:17.46 | LSorensen | kruzi: GMT UTC |
| 01:17.56 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: damnit! 10x20 just doesn't seem to do UTF-8 for some reason |
| 01:17.59 | LSorensen | kruzi: there is no country that is that |
| 01:18.08 | LSorensen | kruzi: the UK is in the winter |
| 01:18.16 | cafuego | dondelelcaro: Well, don't blame ME for YOUR pebcak! |
| 01:18.21 | thomas_adam | LSorensen: Is it? |
| 01:18.22 | zignig | dondelelcaro: 10x20 terminal ? , wow ultra minimal..... |
| 01:18.25 | thomas_adam | LSorensen: News to me. |
| 01:18.34 | dondelelcaro | zignig: no. That's the font size. 10x20 |
| 01:18.37 | dondelelcaro | zignig: I'm almost blind |
| 01:18.37 | kruzi | LSorensen: hrm, so if i wanted to set it as GMT+0 how could i do that |
| 01:18.40 | zignig | dondelelcaro: ah ;) |
| 01:18.43 | LSorensen | thomas_adam: if it isn't I have no idea what time the UK is on |
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| 01:18.50 | thomas_adam | LSorensen: BST |
| 01:18.55 | LSorensen | kruzi: I imagine it has a timezone called GMT |
| 01:18.59 | zignig | thomas_adam: british silly time ? |
| 01:19.03 | thomas_adam | LSorensen: British Summer Time. |
| 01:19.03 | cafuego | dondelelcaro: I would be too if I started at non-parsed UTF8 shit all day ;-) |
| 01:19.03 | LSorensen | thomas_adam: and isn't that equal to GMT in the winter? |
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| 01:19.22 | kruzi | LSorensen: nup, not on its list |
| 01:19.27 | thomas_adam | LSorensen: Well, technically yes, but one could argue it is winter all year round here. :) |
| 01:19.31 | idnar | < LSorensen> kruzi: there is no country that is that |
| 01:19.37 | idnar | why do you say that? |
| 01:19.49 | Eclipser | thomas_adam, sweet, I need to move there |
| 01:19.52 | dondelelcaro | zignig: you can get an idea of how huge that font is here: http://rzlab.ucr.edu/debian/snapshot_09022002.png |
| 01:19.53 | mart | hi, where is $KDEIR/kdebase dir??? |
| 01:19.58 | thomas_adam | Eclipser: Where? |
| 01:20.01 | Eclipser | UK |
| 01:20.06 | LSorensen | kruzi: hmm, on debian you have the choice of 'none of the above' and then get a list of GMT+# timezones |
| 01:20.07 | thomas_adam | !confuse mart |
| 01:20.08 | dondelelcaro | zignig: caveat, that's a 3200x1200 screenshot... |
| 01:20.09 | dpkg | yes, how is your weasel today, mart? by order of the monarchy of micronesia with extra herring |
| 01:20.14 | idnar | I'm willing to bet there's some country along the UTC+0 "line" that doesn't do daylight time saving (or whatever else you want to call it) |
| 01:20.16 | thomas_adam | Eclipser: Yes, *where*? |
| 01:20.29 | LSorensen | idnar: the only country that is GMT part of the time I believeis the UK, and they are only matching GMT half the time |
| 01:20.45 | Eclipser | anywhere it's winter all year |
| 01:20.49 | LSorensen | idnar: I could be wrong, maybe somewhere in africa does |
| 01:20.51 | sortIT | LSorensen, thats correct |
| 01:20.58 | mart | dpkg??? |
| 01:21.09 | kruzi | so should i choose london? |
| 01:21.10 | thomas_adam | LSorensen: Greenwich is in the UK, aye. :) |
| 01:21.14 | zignig | dondelelcaro: JUMBO fonts :) , do you have a braile keyboard aswell ? |
| 01:21.14 | thomas_adam | kruzi: FFS. |
| 01:21.15 | mart | i am not good in english |
| 01:21.20 | LSorensen | kruzi: well that would give you one hour off GMT right now |
| 01:21.26 | dondelelcaro | zignig: no... |
| 01:21.33 | LSorensen | cafuego: hmm, true I guess it would be |
| 01:21.50 | LSorensen | kruzi: I didn't remember redhat's timezone selector being that dumb |
| 01:21.54 | thomas_adam | mart: What is your native language? |
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| 01:22.07 | thomas_adam | Why are we even helping him? |
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| 01:22.14 | thomas_adam | kruzi: Ask in #redhat |
| 01:22.16 | mart | slowak |
| 01:22.17 | Eclipser | well, actually I was planning to move to england someday anyway |
| 01:22.21 | LSorensen | thomas_adam: I think we are switching to mocking soon |
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| 01:22.33 | thomas_adam | LSorensen: I just assumed that from the outset. |
| 01:22.38 | Eclipser | mainly because I feel like I'm not finnish :) |
| 01:22.47 | dondelelcaro | zignig: whats worse is I'm not doing 1600x1200 on some piddly 17" monitor either... but then again, I work on a computer for many hours every day, and eye fatigue sucks. |
| 01:22.53 | thomas_adam | mart: Czeck? |
| 01:23.03 | mart | thomas_adam, maybe |
| 01:23.06 | thomas_adam | dondelelcaro: Yes. |
| 01:23.12 | LSorensen | dondelelcaro: 1600x1200 is for 19"+ |
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| 01:23.28 | dondelelcaro | LSorensen: there are some 17" that can do 1600x1200... I think viewsonic makes one... |
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| 01:23.46 | mart | thomas_adam, i am just searching for a $KDEDIR |
| 01:23.46 | dondelelcaro | LSorensen: but yeah, these are p220fb's... [22"] |
| 01:23.49 | LSorensen | dondelelcaro: electronically they can, physically the phosphors are just too big in general |
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| 01:24.02 | thomas_adam | *0 1280 x 960 ( 325mm x 244mm ) *60 |
| 01:24.06 | LSorensen | dondelelcaro: and generally they do it at 60hz too |
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| 01:24.10 | SlicerDicer- | I was wondering where do i get gentoo? |
| 01:24.16 | dondelelcaro | SlicerDicer-: ask in #gentoo |
| 01:24.17 | curtis119 | gentoo!!! |
| 01:24.18 | thomas_adam | SlicerDicer-: #gentoo |
| 01:24.20 | curtis119 | you dumbass |
| 01:24.21 | LSorensen | dondelelcaro: I prefer the 1600x1200@85hz on a 19" viewsonic I have at work |
| 01:24.23 | zignig | dondelelcaro: eye fatigue is such a drag , I get a migrane in a about 35 seconds from an 85Hz screen, above or below no probelm ? |
| 01:24.26 | mart | dpkg, how u think your message to me? |
| 01:24.27 | zignig | dondelelcaro: wierd |
| 01:24.28 | curtis119 | will someone bann him please? |
| 01:24.31 | dpkg | mart: I give up, what is it? |
| 01:24.39 | dondelelcaro | LSorensen: yeah, I can't use 60Hz with lights on... |
| 01:24.40 | xemoka | curtis119, lol |
| 01:24.43 | dondelelcaro | curtis119: calm down... |
| 01:24.45 | curtis119 | hehe |
| 01:24.48 | LSorensen | dondelelcaro: I can't use 60hz period |
| 01:24.50 | curtis119 | why? |
| 01:24.57 | curtis119 | this is debian not gentoo |
| 01:24.59 | LSorensen | dondelelcaro: I refuse to go below 75hz |
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| 01:25.02 | curtis119 | gentoo has its own channel |
| 01:25.02 | SlicerDicer- | I was wanting to give that umm whats it called portage??? system a try i heard it rox good stuff |
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| 01:25.08 | sortIT | www.gentoo.org? |
| 01:25.16 | idnar | don't feed the trolls |
| 01:25.16 | shortfusesniper | =O)... how do i change the word 'debian' at the debian~ $ prompt |
| 01:25.18 | mart | dpkg, i am just searching for a $KDEDIR, can u help me? |
| 01:25.19 | dpkg | it is my pleasure to meet you, mart |
| 01:25.20 | LSorensen | SlicerDicer-: it's not apt, so I guess it can't |
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| 01:25.27 | shortfusesniper | lol curtis119 |
| 01:25.33 | LSorensen | shortfusesniper: rename machine (/etc/hostname /etc/hosts) |
| 01:25.40 | mart | dpkg, what u mean? |
| 01:25.45 | dpkg | mart: i haven't a clue |
| 01:25.50 | thomas_adam | mart: He's a bot. |
| 01:25.54 | dondelelcaro | mart: in case you haven't figured it out, dpkg is a bot |
| 01:26.00 | shortfusesniper | XDDD |
| 01:26.00 | sortIT | lol |
| 01:26.00 | colonel_panik | lol |
| 01:26.04 | mart | lol |
| 01:26.05 | shortfusesniper | ty guys |
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| 01:26.13 | LSorensen | dpkg: Have you passed the Turing test yet? |
| 01:26.15 | thomas_adam | !love dpkg |
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| 01:26.18 | mart | i am newby,,, still |
| 01:26.19 | dpkg | LSorensen: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about |
| 01:26.21 | dondelelcaro | mart: in answer to your query, with debian, $KDEDIR is /usr; |
| 01:26.32 | idnar | LSorensen: apparently not |
| 01:26.37 | LSorensen | idnar: Yep. |
| 01:26.54 | dondelelcaro | mart: but you shouldn't ever need to piddle with it in the first place, as almost everything (usefull) that uses kde is already built and in Debian. |
| 01:27.02 | colonel_panik | dpkg just got more action than half the geeks that frequent this channel... |
| 01:27.02 | dpkg | colonel_panik: You are moron #34 |
| 01:27.07 | SlicerDicer- | http://www.gentoo.org/mirrors.xml <-----Install a REAL Linux Distro |
| 01:27.07 | idnar | haha |
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| 01:27.23 | shortfusesniper | slack 10 i heard is really nice |
| 01:27.41 | shortfusesniper | ty though guys |
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| 01:27.43 | LSorensen | Shorty`: slackware hasn't done anything new since like, ever. |
| 01:27.44 | Felipe__ | http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/mirrors.xml |
| 01:27.49 | Felipe__ | A Real Linux Distro |
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| 01:28.05 | carambola5 | *sigh* |
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| 01:28.08 | little_mart | dondelelcaro, but there is no kdebase dir |
| 01:28.22 | little_mart | dondelelcaro, in /usr dir |
| 01:28.24 | carambola5 | heh, flood |
| 01:28.30 | LSorensen | dondelelcaro: good default |
| 01:28.39 | thomas_adam | little_mart: You want the source, I think. |
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| 01:29.41 | little_mart | thomas_adam, dont know... i want to know whwere is $KDEDIR/kdebase dir |
| 01:29.46 | helix | i missed the fun again? :( |
| 01:29.54 | thomas_adam | little_mart: You're not making any sense. |
| 01:30.20 | dondelelcaro | little_mart: what exactly are you trying to do? |
| 01:30.21 | Fociis | does anyone know if the Kernel source is included in the minimal Debian CD? |
| 01:30.29 | carambola5 | impressive prediction on the ban, curtis119 |
| 01:30.33 | thomas_adam | Fociis: "minimal debian CD"? |
| 01:30.39 | Fociis | yes the network installation CD |
| 01:30.46 | thomas_adam | Fociis: No it isn't. |
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| 01:30.52 | little_mart | copy some patch to kwin |
| 01:31.02 | Fociis | damm, I'm in a real pickle |
| 01:31.04 | dondelelcaro | little_mart: you mean apply a patch to kwin? |
| 01:31.07 | Eclipser | the point of netinstall is that you get everything from the internet by yourself |
| 01:31.09 | little_mart | dondelelcaro, copy some patch to kwin |
| 01:31.11 | thomas_adam | Fociis: Issues? |
| 01:31.11 | Stonent | gentoo |
| 01:31.13 | carambola5 | Fociis: unpickle, then |
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| 01:31.19 | little_mart | dondelelcaro, yes! |
| 01:31.32 | Fociis | I used network installation CD to install but it doesn't detect the NIC on my A7n8X MB |
| 01:31.43 | dondelelcaro | little_mart: then you'll need the kwin source package. apt-get source kwin; apply the patch, then build the resultant .deb |
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| 01:32.30 | Eclipser | Fociis, did you look for the module in the modulelist? |
| 01:32.46 | little_mart | dondelelcaro, apt-get? |
| 01:32.48 | thomas_adam | dpkg, be thomas_adam is <reply>echo "thomas_adam hold" | dpkg --set-selections, has to be done until sleep can be found. |
| 01:32.48 | dpkg | okay, thomas_adam |
| 01:32.55 | Fociis | yes, I looked it up on the internet and there is no support for that NIC in kernal 2.4 |
| 01:33.06 | dondelelcaro | little_mart: uh, you're using Debian, right? |
| 01:33.14 | Fociis | if I download the drivers from NVIDIA, I'll need to sources to install it |
| 01:33.19 | little_mart | not exactly |
| 01:33.27 | thomas_adam | !tell little_mart about not debian |
| 01:33.33 | carambola5 | Fociis: hmmm....i've had the problem before |
| 01:33.34 | dondelelcaro | little_mart: you either are, or you aren't. If you aren't, ask in #kde. |
| 01:33.43 | Fociis | carambola5: how did you solve it? |
| 01:33.57 | carambola5 | Fociis: i believe you need sk98lin (or whatever) in the kernel/as a module |
| 01:34.06 | little_mart | i was everywhere |
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| 01:34.52 | little_mart | dondelelcaro, nowhere i talking to bot, but i am asking that 1 hour |
| 01:34.55 | dondelelcaro | little_mart: well, what I've told you will work if you're using debian. It won't work anywhere else... and we'd go insane if we attempted to support every random distribution out there. |
| 01:34.59 | Fociis | carambola5: is that a generic driver for my NIC? |
| 01:35.12 | carambola5 | Fociis: yeah, it covers a number of chipsets, iirc |
| 01:35.22 | carambola5 | that nic has gigabit, right? |
| 01:35.30 | Fociis | no, its the regular model |
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| 01:35.34 | Fociis | not the Deluxe model |
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| 01:35.57 | carambola5 | hrm, my friend had a a7n8x with gigabit |
| 01:36.15 | PoL0 | that's a7n8x deluxe |
| 01:36.19 | PoL0 | :)~ |
| 01:36.33 | Zap-W | that's nforce 2 mobo right? |
| 01:36.38 | little_mart | dondelelcaro, thank u! sorry for waste your time... |
| 01:36.38 | carambola5 | ah well, give 'er a try with sk98lin |
| 01:36.39 | Fociis | yes |
| 01:36.44 | Zap-W | in vim how do i bring a line up |
