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| 00:00.08 | [unix] | i had ext 2 as a star |
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| 00:00.53 | hooya | dondelelcaro, i've got a dual CPU 4GB machine running MySQL. after i put a decent load on it, it starts refusing connections saying "error 11 (OS is our of resources/memory or some such). i think it has to do with max thread limit and such.. any ideas? |
| 00:00.53 | cafuego | [unix]: Are you using ext2 on / ? |
| 00:00.58 | dondelelcaro | [unix]: the other option is that you have the wrong root= option there. |
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| 00:01.16 | cafuego | hooya: What is max_connectioin_limit set to? |
| 00:01.27 | simonrvn | hooya: i bet it has to do with file-max being too low |
| 00:01.29 | dondelelcaro | hooya: yeah, you could have run into max_connection_limit... or nr_file_max |
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| 00:01.33 | [unix] | when i installed woody, i checked and i think it said i had ext2 for / |
| 00:01.34 | simonrvn | or what cafuego said |
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| 00:01.38 | cafuego | hooya: The debian default is 100 and I've found that to not be enough on busy servers. |
| 00:01.52 | cafuego | [unix]: 'think" is not "know" |
| 00:02.04 | relex | haha |
| 00:02.05 | proteus` | <- total newb |
| 00:02.05 | [unix] | dondelelcaro, where is the root option? |
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| 00:02.13 | relex | it sounds like a small helicopter is taking off |
| 00:02.27 | hooya | i've raised max_connection_limit to 9999 altho you'd never need it that high, i wanted to eliminate that from from this picture... i'll set it to a more saner value later.. |
| 00:02.28 | jeanpoldeux | relex: bring it back |
| 00:02.31 | proteus` | whats "in interrupt handler - not syncing" |
| 00:02.35 | ivan_ | i installed postfix2 and sasl2, but i can't find any sort of file like /usr/local/lib/sasl2/smtpd.conf to put the authentication method in |
| 00:02.46 | cafuego | hooya: As for performance tweaking, you'll find a 2.6 kernel is a massive amount better at SMP than a 2.4 kernel. |
| 00:02.47 | relex | jeanpoldeux, i am, going to see what i can remove without them noticing |
| 00:02.50 | relex | >:) |
| 00:02.57 | simonrvn | hooya: then file-max is too low |
| 00:03.01 | dondelelcaro | [unix]: it's set in lilo.conf or on the command line when you boot the kernel. |
| 00:03.04 | amyb | if I reformat hda1 with mke2fs, will I need to reinstall lilo? will it wipe the master boot record? |
| 00:03.08 | hooya | dondelelcaro, max_connection_limit is a mysql thing right? file-max is the proc thing? |
| 00:03.09 | cafuego | hooya: Are you australian? |
| 00:03.09 | [unix] | alright |
| 00:03.11 | [unix] | ohhhh |
| 00:03.20 | hooya | cafuego, no. not yet ;) |
| 00:03.22 | [unix] | maybe cause i let make install write to lilo |
| 00:03.28 | simonrvn | hooya: fs.file-max = 49152 |
| 00:03.29 | dondelelcaro | hooya: yerp. |
| 00:03.31 | hooya | cafuego, you? |
| 00:03.36 | cafuego | ivan_: You pop it in /etc/postfix/sasl/smpt.conf |
| 00:03.44 | ivan_ | thanks! |
| 00:03.46 | [unix] | alright thanks for the help |
| 00:03.52 | simonrvn | hooya: sysctl |
| 00:03.53 | cafuego | hooya: no, never will be. the "more saner" got me ;-) |
| 00:03.55 | ivan_ | smtpd, i hope |
| 00:04.07 | dondelelcaro | hooya: you can see if you're approaching it by looking at /proc/sys/fs/file-nr; |
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| 00:04.09 | cafuego | ivan_: Lemme check what I have |
| 00:04.39 | cafuego | /etc/postfix/sasl/smtpd.conf |
| 00:04.41 | cafuego | yah |
| 00:04.43 | simonrvn | i like using sysctl for /proc/sys stuff |
| 00:05.00 | eibwe1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:05.21 | hooya | cafuego, dondelelcaro convinced me to go with woody/stable. so no 2.6 for me. |
| 00:05.31 | dondelelcaro | hooya: you can still use 2.6 if you want... |
| 00:05.44 | dondelelcaro | hooya: you just need a backport of modules-init-tools |
| 00:05.45 | cafuego | hooya: Weeeell, there's stable and then there's stable with a module-init-tools backport :-) |
| 00:05.57 | hooya | hmm.. |
| 00:06.00 | hooya | should i? |
| 00:06.17 | cafuego | hooya: SMP on 2.6 really does make a big difference. I was amazed when I booted 2.6.3 on the Dual p2 here. |
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| 00:06.35 | dondelelcaro | hooya: for SMP it seems to make a big difference... especially with lots of memory... |
| 00:06.39 | [unix] | http://www.desktop-linux.net/debkernel.htm |
| 00:06.46 | cafuego | hooya: And though 2.6.3 has bugs, it's *stable* |
| 00:06.56 | cafuego | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:07.13 | PoW3R | hello, anyone here have tried using radius and port slave? i need some help... please. thanks |
| 00:07.16 | agney | is any kernel module necessary to control contrast on a toshiba laptop ? |
| 00:07.17 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: heh. I haven't been able to upgrade my laptop from 2.6.3 yet, since they broke sleep support in .4-7 |
| 00:07.44 | cafuego | dondelelcaro: My 2 servers are now the top ranking 2.6.3 boxen on counter.li.org :-) |
| 00:07.49 | hooya | the thing is, i've gotten it to work a lot better in the past. i've just forgotten what all i did. i decided to ditch RH and go with deb. and that's what the install fest is all about. now i can't make it go voom. :( i've forgotten all the tweaks i made the last time i did it. |
| 00:07.49 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: heh. |
| 00:07.54 | fpmc | My kde start up hangs on "initializing system services" how do I diagnose? |
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| 00:08.26 | cafuego | The best I have on 2.6.6 is 36 days (but that box didn't exist 37 days ago) |
| 00:08.37 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: yeah, I have a 2.6.7 with 31 days... |
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| 00:08.55 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: this box would have had more than that, but I hit the powerswitch on the strip with a box |
| 00:09.04 | tcsetattr | pow3r, just ask the question |
| 00:09.13 | cafuego | dondelelcaro: yeah, i once kicked the UPS; dumb idea <heh> |
| 00:09.26 | hooya | dondelelcaro, dude. that's not fair. you're the one that convinced me to stick with woody (about two weeks ago). and here you are with 2.6. :( |
| 00:09.28 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: yeah, those things shouldn't have accessible power switches... |
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| 00:09.38 | cafuego | kicked the power cycle button on the ups when I did that |
| 00:09.40 | dondelelcaro | hooya: I've got boxes with 2.4, 2.2, 2.0 and 2.6... |
| 00:09.41 | cafuego | instance silence |
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| 00:10.04 | PoW3R | is it possible to set my portslave to wait for a number of ring before answering it? |
| 00:10.08 | dondelelcaro | hooya: the main production boxes run 2.4, actually... that's primarily because they can saturate their uplinks easily, even with 2.4 |
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| 00:10.14 | cafuego | dondelelcaro: My latest ruse is to only run remote boxes, no way in hell can I accidentally hit the power switch on those ;-) |
| 00:10.20 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: heh |
| 00:10.49 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: yeah, my favorite machines have multiple power supplies plugged into different circuits... so then accidents don't happen... |
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| 00:11.07 | PoW3R | tcsetattr, currently it answers immediately after 1 ring. |
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| 00:11.40 | fpmc | Hi, my kde start up hangs on "initializing system services". How should I check? |
| 00:11.42 | tcsetattr | pow3r, that's an unusual request... |
| 00:12.05 | dondelelcaro | PoW3R: there's an at commandset to do that. |
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| 00:12.13 | hooya | dondelelcaro, the boxes i have could prolly saturate the lines too but i'd rest easy knowing that the only bottleneck in a 100% db driven website is the local LAN. then, i know that i'm not going to have issues with the T1 (with the T1 being the bottleneck) |
| 00:12.32 | dondelelcaro | hooya: heh. You won't have any trouble saturating the T1 |
| 00:12.44 | hooya | dondelelcaro, what are the three columns in file-nr? |
| 00:12.52 | PoW3R | dondelelcaro, how can i do that? i have poor understanding about at commandset |
| 00:12.55 | dondelelcaro | hooya: used, something, and total |
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| 00:13.31 | dondelelcaro | hooya: used, free, and maxium, actually. [man proc] |
| 00:13.37 | hooya | dondelelcaro, so i should watch it under stress? |
| 00:13.42 | tcsetattr | I don't think portslave normally uses autoanswer. But you might be able to do it that way. ATS0=5 or something like that |
| 00:13.53 | dondelelcaro | hooya: yeah. If it starts to peg out, then you've found your problem. |
| 00:14.07 | dondelelcaro | hooya: you might also stick munin on that box, and bang on it, then watch the pretty graphs... |
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| 00:14.12 | dondelelcaro | !munin |
| 00:14.12 | dpkg | munin is a information graphing system for multiple systems based on rrd. See http://www.linpro.no/projects/munin/ and http://www.linpro.no/projects/munin/example/runbox.com/cujo.runbox.com.html FE. |
| 00:14.14 | PoW3R | tcsetattr, i dont want it to answer immediately because maybe its a personal call, not for dialup |
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| 00:14.37 | cafuego | hooya: Just keep in mind that if and when you install 'Moodle' for a school, you'll need a faster server ;-) |
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| 00:14.39 | dondelelcaro | hooya: you'll need to get a backport of munin, though... since it only was written in the past year and a half |
| 00:14.52 | tcsetattr | pow3r, portslave and radius are tools for large dialup pools. If you only have 1 line, you might as well use mgetty. |
| 00:14.53 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: or god forbid, blackboard. |
| 00:15.00 | Bazz | i'm trying to update libxft-dev and i keep getting: dpkg-divert: rename involves overwriting '[blah]Xft.h with differnt file [blah[Xft1.h', not allowed. even when i do --force-all... any ideas on how i can install this? |
| 00:15.18 | hooya | dondelelcaro, what's the sources line for backports? |
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| 00:15.23 | dondelelcaro | hooya: visit backports.org |
| 00:15.28 | hooya | ah |
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| 00:15.33 | dondelelcaro | hooya: or apt-get.org... I don't remember them off the top of my head. |
| 00:15.49 | dondelelcaro | Bazz: you installed unofficial X packages from daniel stone, didn't you. |
| 00:15.58 | Bazz | dondelelcaro: yeah |
| 00:16.01 | _Gil | is it correct: I can't use loadlin anymore ? |
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| 00:16.05 | cafuego | hooya: And when building your 2.6 kernel, don't forget to enable console and keyboard support. |
| 00:16.13 | PoW3R | tcsetattr, ic, but right now the portslave was already configured.. i just only need to set number of rings.. |
| 00:16.32 | dondelelcaro | Bazz: so what you've got to do is either fix the diversion, or remove the daniel stone packages. |
| 00:16.32 | Bazz | dondelelcaro: actually, i don't think so, on that system, no |
| 00:16.46 | tcsetattr | pow3r, does your chat script wait for RING and then send ATA? |
| 00:16.48 | PoW3R | dondelelcaro, is it in the all.initchat? |
| 00:16.59 | Bazz | dondelelcaro: hrmm... and how would i fix the diversion? |
| 00:16.59 | cafuego | that reminds me, i need to email the linguistics dept at melbourne uni |
| 00:17.03 | dondelelcaro | PoW3R: dunno. I don't use radiuses. |
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| 00:17.26 | dondelelcaro | Bazz: no, you did... it's the only thing that does that... and it's happening because libxft-dev doesn't conflict with the version of xlibs that you've got installed since you installed the danielstone package. |
| 00:17.32 | PoW3R | this is my content of initchat.. |
| 00:17.43 | PoW3R | tcsetattr |
| 00:17.45 | PoW3R | TIMEOUT 10 \ |
| 00:17.45 | PoW3R | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:17.45 | PoW3R | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:17.45 | PoW3R | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:17.45 | PoW3R | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:17.48 | tcsetattr | uh oh |
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| 00:18.03 | dondelelcaro | Bazz: remove the package that made the diversion using dpkg --force-depends --remove; then install the right version of xlibs |
| 00:18.04 | MEME|work | if I want wmcpuload to start when i start a session, i put it in .xsession, right? |
| 00:18.09 | dondelelcaro | MEME|work: yes. |
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| 00:18.21 | PoW3R | sorry.. |
| 00:18.26 | Bazz | dondelelcaro: hrmm... okay... thanks |
| 00:18.32 | jeanpoldeux | PoW3R: did you read the topic ? |
| 00:18.41 | simonrvn | i should renable munin, damned useful |
| 00:18.43 | MEME|work | does .xsession need to be executable and have #!/bin/sh on top? |
| 00:19.03 | dondelelcaro | MEME|work: no. |
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| 00:19.20 | _Gil | when I try to run loadlin, it exits with message :"not an image file" |
| 00:19.25 | dondelelcaro | MEME|work: it's sourced by /etc/X11/Xsession |
| 00:19.36 | Bazz | dondelelcaro: i'm i just have the basic stuff in my sources.list, remove xlibs and then apt-get install xlibs, should i be okay? |
| 00:19.45 | Bazz | s/i'm/if |
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| 00:19.50 | dondelelcaro | Bazz: if it's xlbis that is causing the conflict, sure. |
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| 00:20.09 | PoW3R | jeanpoldeux, sorry |
| 00:20.27 | Bazz | dondelelcaro: well, auto-apt tells me xlibs-devel provides the file that dpkg-divert is complaining about |
| 00:20.35 | jeanpoldeux | I don't fucking care, it's like that for everybody |
| 00:20.50 | Shuck | How do I install Debian onto a MegaRAID based array? the floppy controller on the motherboard is hosed. |
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| 00:21.06 | tcsetattr | pow3r, you'll have to adjust the chat somehow. I don't want you to show it to me. just look at it and figure out how to put a few more RINGs before the ATA |
| 00:21.10 | _Gil | which file from the newly compiled kernel directory can be used as a linux.bin for loadlin? |
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| 00:21.54 | jeanpoldeux | Gil: vmlinux blah |
| 00:22.01 | SuperPhly | grub sucks, is there any way to get it to autoconfig with basic idiot proof options? |
| 00:22.04 | tcsetattr | _Gil, loadlin probably wants the bzImage from arch/i386/boot (it might also work on the vmlinux, but I wouldn't count on it) |
| 00:22.09 | SuperPhly | lilo was easy, but even it's a bitch |
| 00:22.15 | MEME|work | gaa, it's still not loading |
| 00:22.22 | MEME|work | my .xsession |
| 00:22.23 | PoW3R | tcsetattr, ic, should i only need to add the RING "\c" ? |
| 00:22.23 | SuperPhly | err at least being a bitch |
| 00:22.36 | hooya | dondelelcaro, can't find munin in backports.org |
| 00:22.36 | MEME|work | does it need to be world-readable? (.xsession) |
| 00:22.48 | _Gil | jeanpoldeux: it says something like "bad comressor, halted" |
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| 00:23.09 | jeanpoldeux | Gil: do what tcsetattr said |
| 00:23.17 | t35t0r | anyone know if this wireless pcmcia card will work under nix: http://www.officemax.com/max/solutions/product/prodBlock.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&expansionOID=-536893136&prodBlockOID=537161452 |
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| 00:23.32 | PoW3R | tcsetattr, i'll try it.. |
| 00:23.57 | harrytuttle | SuperPhly: update-grub is not up to the task? |
| 00:23.59 | hooya | dondelelcaro, i've got '638/58/386551' in file-nr |
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| 00:24.23 | Shuck | How do I install Debian onto a MegaRAID based array? The two default options ("linux" and "compact") don't have drivers that recognize my controller |
| 00:24.38 | syamajala | hi i just upgraded to the 2.4.18 image and my ethernet card isn't compiled into the new kernel how do i add support? |
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| 00:24.46 | _Gil | tcsetattr:it either says bad compression method or not a image file |
| 00:24.46 | thomas_adam | syamajala: modprobe it |
| 00:25.12 | SuperPhly | harrytuttle: when did we get that? |
| 00:25.14 | syamajala | thomas_adam, i don't know the name of the module |
| 00:25.23 | thomas_adam | syamajala: lspci |
| 00:25.30 | thomas_adam | syamajala: what card you got? |
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| 00:26.28 | jivera | I've got Enlightenment running on a machine, but when it boots it uses the default gtk2 theme until I run gnome-theme-manager and then it fixes the problem as soon as it starts; anyone familiar with gtk2 or enlightenment have any insight how to fix this? |
| 00:26.28 | syamajala | thomas_adam, 3csoho100-tx hurricane |
| 00:26.31 | hooya | cafuego, so, for using a backported 2.6, i would need module-init-tools from backports right? |
| 00:26.31 | harrytuttle | SuperPhly: i have no idea, i use it since my first grub experience. |
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| 00:26.50 | jeanpoldeux | jivera: look in your .enlightenment |
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| 00:27.14 | destr0 | is there anything I can use to encrypt a tar/gzipd archive, that can be decrypted later? |
| 00:27.32 | thomas_adam | syamajala: never heard of it. google for the module. |
| 00:27.46 | _Gil | the readme file says "options other that lilo are no longer supported", it means I can't use loadlin? |
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| 00:27.54 | thomas_adam | jivera: gnome-settings-daemon & |
| 00:28.01 | jivera | thomas_adam: Ah, thanks. |
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| 00:28.15 | syamajala | thomas_adam, its found it, its supported by the 3c59x module |
| 00:28.25 | thomas_adam | syamajala: cool. |
| 00:28.32 | MEME|work | echo "touch /home/memeyou/arrrg" > /home/memeyou/.xsession should create "arrrg" when i start a session, no? |
| 00:28.34 | jeanpoldeux | thomas_adam: bouh I feel lame |
| 00:28.45 | MEME|work | it's not =\ |
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| 00:28.58 | jetscreamer | wouldn't that just echo it to console? |
| 00:29.04 | thomas_adam | MEME|work: if it didn't exist, yes. |
| 00:29.11 | jetscreamer | oh |
| 00:29.32 | jivera | thomas_adam: That worked, thanks. :-) |
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| 00:29.51 | thomas_adam | jivera: np. |
| 00:29.55 | thomas_adam | jivera: why? |
| 00:30.13 | [warhead] | nice |
| 00:30.14 | thomas_adam | jivera: sorry, not why... |
| 00:30.17 | thomas_adam | jeanpoldeux: why? |
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| 00:30.35 | jivera | thomas_adam: Heh, I was about to try to answer that too... |
| 00:30.40 | jeanpoldeux | thomas_adam: because you gives indeed better answers as I do |
| 00:31.06 | thomas_adam | jeanpoldeux: Hmmm..... |
| 00:31.13 | _Gil | does anybody know about incompatibility between 2.6 kernels and loadlin utility? |
| 00:31.33 | PoW3R | tcsetattr, i only need to add several RING "\c" line? |
| 00:31.43 | harrytuttle | _Gil: what about syslinux? can it replace loadlin? |
| 00:31.49 | MEME|work | i dont' see where in /etc/X11/Xsession my $HOME/.xsession gets execed |
| 00:32.20 | MEME|work | it gets assigned to USERXSESSION, but thats about it |
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| 00:32.39 | _Gil | harrytuttle: I never used it, I guess I'll try it |
| 00:32.48 | thomas_adam | _Gil: what are you trying to do? |
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| 00:33.11 | thomas_adam | MEME|work: It's not in there - it's in /etc/X11/* |
| 00:33.21 | thomas_adam | MEME|work: read the scripts. |
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| 00:33.37 | _Gil | thomas_adam:load a newly compiled kernel from dos |
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| 00:34.20 | daesotho | i want to use the special keys on my keyboard |
| 00:34.33 | thomas_adam | daesotho: install hotkey |
| 00:35.00 | Kilby | hi, i've installed debian nessus package, but it cant connect to nessusd server because of "SSL error". I've tried to disable SSL layer, but nothing happened. Does somebody know something about this? |
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| 00:35.23 | thomas_adam | Kilby: install the ssl package. |
| 00:35.30 | thomas_adam | Kilby: apt-cache search ssl |
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| 00:36.03 | Kilby | thomas_adam: libssl0.9.6 ? |
| 00:36.10 | thomas_adam | Kilby: yup. |
| 00:36.14 | jeanpoldeux | are these security tools good ? |
| 00:36.15 | Kilby | ok, lets try |
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| 00:36.17 | syamajala | can someone help me with webmin |
| 00:36.24 | thomas_adam | !tell syamajala about ask |
| 00:36.32 | thomas_adam | jeanpoldeux: for...? |
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| 00:36.50 | daesotho | thomas_adam: ^_^ thanks! |
| 00:36.57 | jeanpoldeux | thomas_adam: auditing a system, without messing up everything |
| 00:37.08 | thomas_adam | daesotho: :) |
| 00:37.14 | thomas_adam | jeanpoldeux: They're ok. |
| 00:37.20 | syamajala | webmin keeps saying access denied when i try to access the page |
| 00:37.29 | syamajala | is there a config file somewhere |
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| 00:37.53 | Kilby | thomas_adam: i get the same error after installing libssl... should I install another one package? |
| 00:38.15 | MEME|work | aha, $STARTUP is not set |
| 00:39.30 | PoW3R | tcsetattr, is there information about the at commands? i can't make it to work... |
| 00:39.36 | jeanpoldeux | syamajala: /etc/webmin/config |
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| 00:39.50 | syamajala | jeanpoldeux, already found it and fixed but thanks any way |
| 00:40.27 | SuperPhly | why is my system rebooting into a blue screen with unreadable text after i upgraded to unstable? |
| 00:40.37 | directhex | unstable is an upgrade? |
| 00:40.52 | SuperPhly | directhex: yes. |
| 00:40.54 | jeanpoldeux | sounds like windows crash |
| 00:40.56 | directhex | i thought of it more of a sidewaysgrade, or parallelgrade |
| 00:41.07 | SuperPhly | well, it came with 2.6 if i'm not mistaken |
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| 00:41.53 | SuperPhly | yeah, it comes up with some messed up ascii that i can't read |
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| 00:42.05 | SuperPhly | i have to hit yes, ok, no, ok for it to work from that point |
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| 00:42.17 | Falgor | ~_~ |
| 00:42.18 | apt | it has been said that _~ is sour face |
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| 00:42.24 | erkanoz07 | hi |
| 00:42.29 | Falgor | damn right |
| 00:42.55 | jeanpoldeux | SuperPhly: did you add an initrd entry in lilo.conf ? |
| 00:43.02 | erkanoz07 | sid, net install, gnome broke, what can i do |
| 00:43.10 | SuperPhly | jeanpoldeux: it's not using lilo |
| 00:43.13 | SuperPhly | grub |
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| 00:43.20 | Falgor | oh, I wish you had done that to "sdr" who was kick-banned for asking stuff the "wrong way" |
| 00:43.21 | SuperPhly | and grub seems to be working fine |
| 00:43.29 | jeanpoldeux | SuperPhly: did you add an initrd entry in grub.conf ? |
| 00:43.29 | hooya | cafuego, i'm liking the 2.6 backport idea more and more. is there a howto? |
| 00:43.34 | Falgor | shame on you barbies |
| 00:43.42 | SuperPhly | jeanpoldeux: yeah, it's booting the kernel fine |
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| 00:43.50 | SuperPhly | when it gets past the init.d stuff it comes up blue screen |
| 00:44.12 | jeanpoldeux | windows syndrome |
| 00:44.13 | cafuego | hooya: apt-get install module-init-tools and install & boot a 2.6 kernel, that should be all there is to it. |
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| 00:44.28 | tercel | heheh sdr is in #gentoo now |
| 00:45.02 | erkanoz07 | NVIDIA driver, kernel 2.6.7-1, how can i install |
| 00:45.12 | MEME|work | what is -x in a bash statement? |
| 00:45.16 | MEME|work | i mean -z |
| 00:45.20 | jeanpoldeux | SuperPhly: I think you have to pass arguments to kernel |
| 00:45.22 | _rene_ | MEME|work: man test |
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| 00:45.43 | _rene_ | MEME|work: if you mean [ -z ... ] |
| 00:45.44 | cafuego | MEME|work: 'man test' '/-z' |
| 00:45.47 | hooya | cafuego, yeah, but i dont' really want to compile my own kernel. (i'm pretty lazy). backports? |
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| 00:46.14 | cafuego | hooya: Uh, if you want perfiormance, compiling your own kernel is one of the best ways of doing it. |
| 00:46.45 | MEME|work | if [ -z ls ]; then echo 1; fi |
| 00:46.51 | MEME|work | shouldn't that echo 1? |
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| 00:46.57 | cafuego | hooya: That said, once module-init-tools is installed in theory a precompiled sarge 2.6 kernel-image should install OK. Just keep in mind they sue initrd. |
| 00:47.29 | cafuego | MEME|work: No, because the length of "ls" is 2 and not zero. |
| 00:47.36 | tercel | manualy compiled kernels are totaly the way to go |
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| 00:47.51 | hooya | yeah, it does right now. with 2.4. i've got /boot/initrd* as cramfs filesystems.. |
| 00:48.01 | hooya | cafuego, ^^ is that what you were asking? |
| 00:48.18 | erkanoz07 | help me |
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| 00:48.25 | MEME|work | oh, it checks if the value is empty |
| 00:48.33 | cafuego | erkanoz07: Call nvidia tech support. |
| 00:48.33 | jeanpoldeux | !tell erkanoz07 about nvidia |
| 00:48.55 | erkanoz07 | i can't install NVIDIA |
| 00:48.58 | tercel | does anybody know if -fweb is accepted by gcc 3.3.3? or is that only 3.4.x |
| 00:49.12 | hooya | erkanoz07, see http://tinyplanet.ca/~lsorense/debian/debian-nvidia-dri-howto.txt |
| 00:49.12 | cafuego | erkanoz07: Buy a supported gfx card then. |
| 00:49.22 | jeanpoldeux | erkanoz07: of course you can |
| 00:49.31 | jivera | tercel: My gcc doesn't recognize it. |
| 00:49.41 | tercel | jivera: what version you got? |
| 00:49.42 | jivera | tercel: And I've got gcc 3.3.4 (from testing). |
| 00:49.44 | cafuego | hooya: I'm pretty sure you should be fine with a precompiled 2.6 kernel then. |
| 00:49.54 | tercel | hmmm |
| 00:50.00 | hooya | cafuego, aight.. |
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| 00:50.11 | hooya | cafuego, thanks man. i'm gonna try it right now. |
| 00:50.17 | cafuego | hooya: good luck :-) |
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| 00:51.03 | morfic | tercel: there is nothing wrong with precompiled kernels, if it works, it works |
| 00:51.22 | sp0rk | HAPPY SYSADMIN APPRECIATION DAY! |
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| 00:51.32 | ClonedMule | mm |
| 00:51.35 | ClonedMule | it is isn't it... |
| 00:51.50 | ClonedMule | so do we get to make BOFH jokes in public? |
| 00:51.58 | cafuego | That was yesterday. |
| 00:52.11 | cafuego | And I joyfully deleted two email vdomains. |
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| 00:52.12 | tercel | morfic: yea thats true |
| 00:52.13 | snow | hi |
| 00:52.13 | sp0rk | it's today, damnit. July 30th. |
| 00:52.23 | tercel | morfic: but generaly if you make your own you can customize it more |
| 00:52.35 | blackstar | hi snow. |
| 00:52.40 | hooya | i've got a question. i'm pretty noo to deb. if i compile say, apache, into a .deb . what happens with security updates? is it a manual thing from then on? |
| 00:52.44 | snow | hi |
| 00:52.47 | cafuego | sp0rk: July 30th finished over 10 hours ago, yesterdayman. |
| 00:52.52 | blackstar | sp0rk, it's saturday. No work today. :P |
| 00:52.52 | snow | blackstar, hi |
| 00:52.55 | sp0rk | Fri Jul 30 17:52:57 PDT 2004 |
| 00:52.56 | morfic | tercel, "if it works it works" ;) |
| 00:53.00 | sp0rk | there, maybe. |
| 00:53.00 | sp0rk | not here. |
| 00:53.08 | snow | please tell me the error : sudo find / -newer readme.txt -type f -ok ls -l {} \ ; |
| 00:53.11 | cafuego | sp0rk: You're living in the past. keep up. |
| 00:53.14 | Gil | we discover the magic of timezones |
| 00:53.25 | snow | it says : missing argument for -ok |
| 00:53.30 | sp0rk | yeah well...DEBIAN SUCKS! ohhh burn. |
| 00:53.31 | tercel | morfic: by the same reflexive logic, if it works better, it works better |
| 00:53.32 | blackstar | Gil, what's time in Australia atm? |
| 00:53.40 | blackstar | sp0rk, you sucks. :P |
| 00:53.42 | tercel | ooh, burned |
| 00:53.44 | sp0rk | i was joking. |
| 00:53.47 | cafuego | Gil: Again. it's a bit like groundhog day, except it repeats every 8 or so hours ;-) |
| 00:53.55 | cafuego | blackstar: |
| 00:53.56 | tercel | the spork is both a spoon and a fork... |
| 00:53.56 | syamajala | any one have problems installing php4? |
| 00:53.57 | Gil | blackstar: 1053 |
| 00:53.58 | cafuego | Sat Jul 31 10:53:59 EST 2004 |
| 00:54.06 | blackstar | sp0rk, me too. Hehe :) |
| 00:54.08 | snow | hi |
| 00:54.17 | Gil | cafuego: hooray for NTP :) |
| 00:54.17 | snow | Any one help me with a command line |
| 00:54.23 | snow | thanks...in advace |
| 00:54.39 | blackstar | cafuego, Gil: in Italy it's 3 o'clock. :) |
| 00:54.41 | syamajala | Snow what do u need help with? |
| 00:54.57 | cory | wow. my clock was off by 3 seconds |
| 00:55.01 | dondelelcaro | hooya: hrm... well, it's not file_max that is your limiter then... [if you didn't already figure that out |
| 00:55.05 | snow | sudo find / -newer readme.txt -type f -ok ls -l {} \ ; |
| 00:55.09 | blackstar | cory: :P |
| 00:55.09 | snow | where is the error ? |
| 00:55.22 | snow | It says : missing argument for -ok |
| 00:55.26 | blackstar | Hi dondelelcaro. |
| 00:55.26 | jetscreamer | what might possibly make gnome randomly reboot my box. not icewm, not kde, just gnome. |
| 00:55.40 | syamajala | snow, sorry i can't read any of that ;-p |
| 00:55.42 | dondelelcaro | blackstar: hola. |
| 00:55.49 | cory | o.0 randomly reboot your box? |
| 00:55.49 | syamajala | snow, what does it do? |
| 00:55.51 | tercel | gnome sucks maybe? |
| 00:55.54 | jetscreamer | yeah |
| 00:55.58 | blackstar | tercel, no. :P |
| 00:56.00 | snow | that's only the "find" command |
| 00:56.01 | sp0rk | jetscreamer, is your toe anywhere near the reset button on the computer? That one has tricked me a few times. |
| 00:56.08 | cory | yeah, drop GNOME, problem solved ;) |
| 00:56.09 | jetscreamer | nah dude, 2nd box |
| 00:56.10 | MEME|work | whay does Xsession not source .xsession when a spececific program is requested (ie. exec Xsession /usr/bin/fluxbox) |
| 00:56.10 | Gil | snow: try getting rid of the space between the \ and the ; |
| 00:56.18 | syamajala | snow: o do updatedb and locate readme.txt |
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| 00:56.26 | tercel | umm |
| 00:56.28 | tercel | yes |
| 00:56.32 | tercel | :P |
| 00:56.32 | sp0rk | ah, just making sure. |
| 00:56.32 | cafuego | http://www.cafuego.net/i/spork.jpg |
| 00:56.38 | snow | NO, I'm learning "find" not locate . |
| 00:56.41 | sp0rk | it's best to check the obvious first. |
| 00:56.46 | Gil | snow: try getting rid of the space between the \ and the ; |
| 00:56.52 | snow | It'll be automatically updatedb at 4.30am |
| 00:56.56 | syamajala | snow, well i thought all u cared about was finding the file |
| 00:56.56 | snow | Gil : thanks |
| 00:57.14 | tercel | Ive never found find that usefull |
| 00:57.22 | fpmc | If I download the kernel-image package, what do I have to do to create the final image that I can use to boot? |
| 00:57.40 | sp0rk | bahahahah cafuego, if there is really a town named spork...i'm buying a summer home there. |
| 00:57.47 | jeanpoldeux | fpmc: apt-get install kernel-source will resolve |
| 00:57.56 | blackstar | To compile the USB support on a kernel 2.6.x in the right way I have to choose from the package 'hotplug' or 'usbmrg' right? |
| 00:57.56 | sp0rk | or a winter home, whichever the climate dictates |
| 00:57.58 | jeanpoldeux | oop |
| 00:58.02 | cafuego | sp0rk: Yep, it's in germany, on the dutch border. Tiny tiny little town. |
| 00:58.04 | jetscreamer | i tested the ram for 16 hours, and let it sit with kde and icewm (recreated the conditions, it was just sitting there).. it only does it with gnome so far |
| 00:58.06 | jeanpoldeux | fpmc: no |
| 00:58.10 | sp0rk | awesome. |
| 00:58.12 | snow | Gil : thanks so much. I'm making mistake |
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| 00:58.15 | jetscreamer | bout once every 24 hours, not a definite cycle |
| 00:58.19 | blackstar | Sometimes I have some probomes with usb modules. It always can't locate they.. |
| 00:58.31 | fpmc | jeanpoldeux: I am just wondering what the kernel-image package contains. Does it contain a file "vmlinuz" that I can use to boot? |
| 00:58.40 | Gil | fpmc: yes |
| 00:58.40 | jeanpoldeux | fpmc: yes |
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| 00:58.49 | snow | ah... I plug my USB disk to the PC , but no thing happens ? |
| 00:58.51 | fpmc | ok thank you all |
| 00:58.52 | jetscreamer | well more like vmlinux-blah |
| 00:58.52 | cafuego | fpmc: Yes, and also all kernel modules |
| 00:58.56 | jeanpoldeux | fpmc: but if it's a 2.6 read the doc before to reboot |
| 00:58.58 | jetscreamer | z |
| 00:59.02 | jivera | Is packages.qa.debian.org down? I can't access it from home or via my shell account. |
| 00:59.06 | fpmc | jeanpoldeux: oh some tricks? |
| 00:59.12 | jeanpoldeux | fpmc: initrd |
| 00:59.18 | jetscreamer | module-init-tools |
| 00:59.26 | jetscreamer | you need that for 2.6 |
| 00:59.27 | fpmc | jeanpoldeux: oic no problem got that fixed already |
| 00:59.31 | syamajala | i keep getting this error when i do apt-get install php4 "dpkg: error processing php4 (--configure): |
| 00:59.31 | syamajala | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:59.31 | syamajala | " |
| 00:59.44 | jeanpoldeux | !tell fpmc about initrd |
| 00:59.50 | cafuego | No, you can't have /i/ |
| 00:59.54 | fpmc | jetscreamer: I think it's "vmlinuz" |
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| 01:00.47 | jetscreamer | [19.59.01] <jetscreamer> z |
| 01:01.19 | fpmc | srt |
| 01:01.20 | fpmc | sry |
| 01:01.21 | jetscreamer | my point was trying to be /vmlinuz is a symlink to /boot/vmlinuz-blah |
| 01:01.42 | jeanpoldeux | jetscreamer: it is |
| 01:01.47 | fpmc | jetscreamer: ok that's important to know |
| 01:01.47 | jetscreamer | yes |
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| 01:01.49 | fpmc | thanks |
| 01:02.04 | syamajala | can someone help me with the php error? |
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| 01:02.48 | jeanpoldeux | syamajala: apt-get -f install |
| 01:03.36 | syamajala | jeanpoldeux, still get the error |
| 01:04.10 | jeanpoldeux | dunno |
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| 01:05.22 | toresbe | apt-get install life doesn't work for me - so it's not worth it. |
| 01:05.42 | Pit | Why did I read that as "enema" |
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| 01:06.04 | toresbe | Pit: Uhh... Because you're a sick sick man? :D |
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| 01:06.17 | toresbe | Pit: But, ASL? :P |
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| 01:06.35 | toresbe | *rawr* :P |
| 01:06.51 | Pit | ASL is worse than enema |
| 01:07.02 | Pit | My sickness pales in comparison to ASL :P |
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| 01:08.03 | toresbe | Pit: Don't diss deaf people! |
| 01:08.13 | prologic | With 'cdrecord' do you use the same options to burn a re-writeable as you do a normal cd ? |
| 01:08.21 | Pit | Bah, I can't be keeping up with every single possible meaning of every acronym |
| 01:08.27 | MEME|work | how do i update a package with a .deb |
| 01:08.31 | toresbe | prologic: Yeah, but you have to erase it afterwards :) |
| 01:08.41 | toresbe | MEME|work: You have a deb file? |
| 01:08.44 | MEME|work | yes |
| 01:08.45 | prologic | toresbe, what do you mean ? |
| 01:08.48 | hooya | aight cafuego, it's restarting right now.. |
| 01:08.50 | jivera | Can anyone else reach http://packages.qa.debian.org/ ? |
| 01:09.03 | toresbe | MEME|work: Then, and you should've RTFM, dpkg -U iirc. |
| 01:09.08 | MEME|work | dpkg --help |
| 01:09.08 | dpkg | parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, MEME|work |
| 01:09.10 | MEME|work | doens't say |
| 01:09.28 | jeanpoldeux | prologic: blank an already burned cdrw before to re-burn it |
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| 01:09.47 | blackstar | dpkg, I love you. |
| 01:09.47 | jeanpoldeux | MEME|work: /msg dpkg |
| 01:09.48 | dpkg | I love you too, blackstar. |
| 01:09.51 | toresbe | prologic: You can burn a blank disc the way you usually burn a cdr, but you have to blank it if you have something on it |
| 01:09.57 | prologic | jeanpoldeux, ahh me understands now. blank before re-burning :) |
| 01:10.10 | prologic | ok cool |
| 01:10.12 | prologic | thanks guys |
| 01:10.13 | toresbe | MEME|work: man dpkg |
| 01:10.13 | blackstar | dpkg, who is dondelelcaro? :) |
| 01:10.17 | dpkg | blackstar: what are you talking about? |
| 01:10.20 | toresbe | MEME|work: man is your best frend |
| 01:10.24 | toresbe | <3 manlove <3 |
| 01:10.25 | blackstar | ehehe. |
| 01:10.31 | prologic | Another Q: Is Sarge/Testing considered to be stable now, or close enough to ? |
| 01:10.40 | dondelelcaro | prologic: no. |
| 01:10.50 | toresbe | prologic: It's *stable* but it's not *stable* |
| 01:10.52 | dondelelcaro | prologic: it will be when it releases, aka, RSN. |
| 01:10.56 | directhex | prologic, sarge/testing is considered to be testing. when it's stable, it'll be called sarge/stable |
| 01:11.07 | MEME|work | at least tell me what they call upgrading a package in debian |
| 01:11.12 | scarynetworkguy | prologic, that wound entirley depend on your needs wouldn't it. Also do you know enough to track on security yourself? |
| 01:11.13 | MEME|work | so i know what to grep for |
| 01:11.17 | toresbe | MEME|work: Upgrade ;) |
| 01:11.19 | prologic | wow holy heck |
| 01:11.21 | prologic | lots of responses |
| 01:11.28 | MEME|work | Pattern not found |
| 01:11.41 | dondelelcaro | MEME|work: uh, we call it upgrading. |
| 01:11.45 | prologic | Is Sarge/Testing stable enough to be used in industry, in servers and productive envionments ? |
| 01:11.48 | dondelelcaro | MEME|work: what exactly are you trying to do? |
| 01:11.51 | directhex | MEME|work, what are you trying to do? dpkg -i package.deb to install a package, apt-get update && apt-get upgrade to upgrade the system |
| 01:11.54 | toresbe | MEME|work: man dpkg and slash and the phrase, it greps the man page :) |
| 01:11.55 | dondelelcaro | prologic: possibly. But I'd suggest using stable in production. |
| 01:12.02 | deadcat | how do i make useradd to set the user's $HOME to be 0770? its not in /etc/default/useradd, and no i dont want to use adduser |
| 01:12.09 | prologic | okay |
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| 01:12.13 | toresbe | prologic: On a server, stable is where it's at. On a desktop it's insane |
| 01:12.23 | prologic | Well from 4 years experience with Testing, it's stable enough to be used in production |
| 01:12.24 | prologic | which I do |
| 01:12.25 | MEME|work | i already have th epackage i want, i don't want to use apt |
| 01:12.34 | directhex | prologic, i'd use it on a desktop. |
| 01:12.43 | scarynetworkguy | prologic, once again do you know how to track security updates for yourself? |
| 01:12.46 | directhex | MEME|work, then dpkg -i themotherfucking.deb |
| 01:12.51 | jeanpoldeux | insane is not appropriate |
| 01:12.51 | prologic | I use Testing for both my Desktops and Servers |
| 01:12.53 | toresbe | prologic: I use unstable in my desktops and on my server. I've never had a problem. |
| 01:13.03 | prologic | I usually (haven't in years) had a problem |
| 01:13.05 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: use adduser, and edit /etc/adduser.conf |
| 01:13.31 | dondelelcaro | prologic: you can use it in production, but you generally need to be following the security announcement list then. |
| 01:13.42 | toresbe | prologic: As long as you're willing to trade cutting-edgeyness for the slight possibility of a problem, then, go ahead. |
| 01:13.43 | MEME|work | i -i even if i already have an older version of the package installed? |
| 01:13.44 | prologic | *nods* |
| 01:13.52 | dondelelcaro | prologic: but typically if you're asking if it's ok to use in production, you shouldn't be using it in production. |
| 01:14.00 | dondelelcaro | MEME|work: yes. |
| 01:14.03 | jeanpoldeux | good night folks |
| 01:14.16 | toresbe | prologic: I'm in the unstable camp and I'm very happy with it. It is NOT, however, to be used in a production environment. |
| 01:14.17 | prologic | The Security team doesn't develop for Testing do they ? |
| 01:14.17 | dondelelcaro | MEME|work: dpkg is idempotent |
| 01:14.19 | directhex | MEME|work, no, i said it twice despite hearing your scenario for fun. |
| 01:14.19 | prologic | only for stable ? |
| 01:14.23 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: i cant seem to get adduser to do --quit/non-interactive. |
| 01:14.53 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: eh? it works just fine in non-interactive mode... |
| 01:14.59 | scarynetworkguy | not that I'm bitter or anything mind you |
| 01:15.08 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: it kept asking for the passwd and the fucking GECOS )= |
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| 01:15.32 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: so set --disabled-password and --gecos |
| 01:15.52 | toresbe | My flexible, squishy tummy muscles |
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| 01:16.09 | hooya | wasn't e1000 driver included in 2.6? |
| 01:16.13 | dondelelcaro | hooya: yes. |
| 01:16.32 | hooya | dondelelcaro, it seems to be missing in 2.6.7-1-smp at least. |
| 01:17.05 | Limey-Slimey | hello ... can someone tell me how can i launch a prog. from a menu in gui as root while i'm logged in as a user |
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| 01:17.29 | dondelelcaro | hooya: hrm. It should be there... it'll be a module though... |
| 01:17.31 | deadcat | Limey-Slimey: you dont. you do that from a promopt with sudo |
| 01:17.36 | dondelelcaro | !find e1000.o |
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| 01:17.45 | deadcat | Limey-Slimey: unless you edit the menu yourself. |
| 01:17.50 | Limey-Slimey | what's the diff between su and sudo |
| 01:18.01 | dondelelcaro | Limey-Slimey: a d and an o? |
| 01:18.05 | hooya | dondelelcaro, oh crap. i was looking for e1000.o. not .ko. hang on. |
| 01:18.09 | Limey-Slimey | funny |
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| 01:18.18 | deadcat | Limey-Slimey: su == switch user, sudo == switch user and ru some shit |
| 01:18.20 | dondelelcaro | Limey-Slimey: there's a huge difference. man sudo, man su. |
| 01:18.25 | toresbe | hooya: .o is 2.4 modules, .ko is 2.6 :) |
| 01:18.26 | directhex | Limey-Slimey, you don't it's evil and wrong. or: gksudo 'app --switch', or kde-sudo 'app --switch' |
| 01:18.26 | hooya | dondelelcaro. it's there! awesome. |
| 01:18.31 | muppo | hello isnt it in ~/.fluxbox/keys you bind like alt+F2 to be ws2 and alt+F3 ws3 and so on? |
| 01:18.33 | dondelelcaro | hooya: yeah, I figured as much... |
| 01:18.38 | muppo | like this |
| 01:18.38 | muppo | Mod1 F1 :Workspace1 |
| 01:18.39 | hooya | ;) |
| 01:18.57 | Limey-Slimey | will the terminal stay visible after sudo just as in su |
| 01:19.07 | deadcat | muppo: ya. but you also have to specify in .fluxbox/init to put they key file to .fluxbox/keys |
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| 01:19.31 | syamajala | can someone help me with a php error? |
| 01:19.39 | syamajala | i keep getting this error when i do apt-get install php4 "dpkg: error processing php4 (--configure): |
| 01:19.46 | deadcat | Limey-Slimey: do sudo xprogram & then exit the terminal |
| 01:19.49 | directhex | Limey-Slimey, set up your /etc/sudoers file, and try running "gksudo aptitude" or similar |
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| 01:20.13 | muppo | hm deadcat it is right there |
| 01:20.16 | muppo | session.keyFile: /home/muppo/.fluxbox/keys |
| 01:20.20 | muppo | or ? |
| 01:20.29 | deadcat | muppo: restart fluxbox then. |
| 01:20.35 | muppo | i just did ^^ |
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| 01:20.42 | muppo | and now it doesnt work anymore |
| 01:20.51 | deadcat | muppo: fluxbox is broken. (=. |
| 01:20.57 | hooya | dondelelcaro, i've never really understood how all the modules get loaded after the kernel finishes booting. e1000 is not in loadmodules in the initrd.img. and is not in the /etc/modules. after i do a modprobe and it inserts just fine, am i supposed to make another initrd.img? |
| 01:20.57 | Limey-Slimey | thanx... since i'm already talking to you .. do you know a good URL to set up a email gateway |
| 01:20.58 | muppo | damn shit :P |
| 01:21.03 | Limey-Slimey | tutorial |
| 01:21.15 | hooya | dondelelcaro, but i wouldn't because i don't need that to boot right? |
| 01:21.15 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'e1000.o' (4 shown; 8 total): (/lib/modules/2.4.26-1-k6/kernel/drivers/net/e1000/e1000.o) in base/kernel-image-2.4.26-1-k6 ;; (/lib/modules/2.4.26-1-k7/kernel/drivers/net/e1000/e1000.o) in base/kernel-image-2.4.26-1-k7 ;; (/lib/modules/2.4.26-1-386/kernel/drivers/net/e1000/e1000.o) in base/kernel-image-2.4.26-1-386 ;; (/lib/modules/2.4.26-1-686/kernel/drivers/net/e1000/e1000.o) in base/kernel-image-2.4.26-1-686. |
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| 01:21.25 | deadcat | muppo: i switched from flux to open few like 1 week ago. (= |
| 01:21.25 | klipper | hey all |
| 01:21.25 | dondelelcaro | hooya: just use modconf, to add it... |
| 01:21.32 | hooya | ok. |
| 01:21.35 | dondelelcaro | hrm... that took dpkg fucking long enough... |
| 01:21.46 | muppo | okej |
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| 01:22.03 | dondelelcaro | hooya: or add it to /etc/modules... |
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| 01:23.26 | Fabinho_22 | Is lists.debian.org down? |
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| 01:23.51 | hooya | aight. let's see if i run into that problem under stress testing again.. ;) thanks dondelelcaro, cafuego for helping me out so far.. ;) |
| 01:24.43 | hooya | that's odd. top says "unknown HZ value. assuming 100" right before it displays what it displays.. |
| 01:24.44 | dondelelcaro | hooya: np... |
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| 01:24.46 | klipper | i just installed debian from a net install, and only installed the base |
| 01:25.01 | directhex | good for you |
| 01:25.11 | dondelelcaro | klipper: that's what it's supposed to do. use aptitude or tasksel to install whatever you want to install. |
| 01:25.15 | klipper | i got gtk, xfree86 and fluxbox |
| 01:25.17 | scarynetworkguy | !win klipper |
| 01:25.19 | muppo | deadcat: i just saw the error |
| 01:25.19 | dpkg | Congratulations, klipper! You have won second prize in a beauty contest! |
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| 01:25.33 | Kilby | hi, i've installed debian nessus package, but it cant connect to nessusd server because of "SSL error". I've tried to disable SSL layer, but nothing happened. Does somebody know something about this? |
| 01:25.39 | klipper | but i am wondering what i should do now |
| 01:25.45 | dondelelcaro | hooya: hrm... I've never seen that. Probably harmless... |
| 01:25.48 | directhex | klipper, install tuxracer & play |
| 01:25.54 | scarynetworkguy | Kilby, yes yes I do |
| 01:26.04 | muppo | deadcat: i was missing a space between workspace and the number |
| 01:26.06 | muppo | :P |
| 01:26.06 | deadcat | klipper: give yourself a hug. (= |
| 01:26.13 | deadcat | muppo: dang it (= |
| 01:26.23 | muppo | thx anyways |
| 01:26.28 | muppo | bye |
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| 01:26.42 | scarynetworkguy | klipper, having only base is pretty damn l337 it's what all the real hax0rs do |
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| 01:26.53 | deadcat | scarynetworkguy: HAHAHA |
| 01:27.00 | scarynetworkguy | deadcat, :) |
| 01:27.12 | scarynetworkguy | kilby you just proved that you are not worthy. |
| 01:27.39 | Kilby | why? |
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| 01:27.50 | klipper | lol, c00lz0rz! am i an ub3rr l3e7 haxz0r? |
| 01:27.56 | scarynetworkguy | Kilby, don't ever msg me ever |
| 01:28.09 | directhex | klipper, no, because you installed x. |
| 01:28.17 | directhex | klipper, you're meant to use irc over telnet |
| 01:28.17 | Kilby | scarynetworkguy: tell me here then |
| 01:28.30 | klipper | AAAHHH! |
| 01:28.31 | klipper | lol |
| 01:28.44 | deadcat | i am getting this error: warning: implicit declaration of function `ip_route_output' <- is that a kernel option? |
| 01:28.45 | scarynetworkguy | Kilby, if you had any legitamte use for nessus you would have known better than to msg me so ummmmm no |
| 01:28.52 | directhex | klipper, actually, all the cool kids run yggdrasil, not this debian nonsense |
| 01:29.11 | scarynetworkguy | directhex, klipper that is what I heard |
| 01:29.29 | Kilby | ok, i wont feed the troll |
| 01:30.08 | klipper | ok ok, enough fuckig with me, i want to know what packages i should install, like fonts, firefox plugins, etc |
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| 01:30.48 | Gil | has anybody had experience establishing a VPN tunnel between two machines, one of whom has a dynamic IP ? |
| 01:30.51 | directhex | klipper, you'll find you can never have too many fonts, and that "apt-cache search" rocks |
| 01:31.00 | syamajala | can someone help me with a php error? |
| 01:31.03 | syamajala | i keep getting this error when i do apt-get install php4 "dpkg: error processing php4 (--configure): |
| 01:31.04 | hooya | hi scarynetworkguy. |
| 01:31.10 | klipper | i know, but its confusing, becuase there is so damn much when i do a search |
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| 01:31.39 | klipper | riverside, ca? |
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| 01:31.44 | deadcat | i get this when insmod a module: "unresolved symbol ip_route_output" any idea? |
| 01:31.59 | klipper | markw: riverside, ca? |
| 01:32.04 | markw | klipper: try looking at the stuff in /usr/share/doc/nessus* |
| 01:32.13 | klipper | wtf is nessus? |
| 01:32.19 | markw | klipper: yeah, that place along the 15... |
| 01:32.25 | deadcat | klipper: rtfmmf |
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| 01:32.38 | debian | !nessus |
| 01:32.38 | dpkg | i heard nessus is a security scanner with 209 plugins, available at http://www.nessus.org |
| 01:32.42 | markw | klipper: er, that was for Kilby. |
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| 01:32.43 | lobster | i can't ping ftp.debian.org, I guess the server is down :'( |
| 01:32.44 | markw | sorry. |
| 01:32.46 | c0mpub0mb | for debian, what .deb devel package do you have to have installed for audio support ?... |
| 01:32.53 | directhex | klipper, try msttcorefonts and ttf-bitstream-vera as a start, then |
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| 01:33.01 | klipper | OH YEAH! no shit! nessus! |
| 01:33.02 | hooya | dondelelcaro, two machine are running 2.4 and the db server is running 2.6. on the two running 2.4, it won't mount the swap partition. swapon -a says "/dev/sda2 invalid device". the machine does have 4GB ram. but why won't it mount the swap. is there something i need to check? |
| 01:33.07 | markw | Kilby: I remember there's some pretty good docs on getting it running after you install it. |
| 01:33.08 | c0mpub0mb | because when i tried to compile gaim newest build it said i didn't have uhm.. audiofile_config |
| 01:33.11 | c0mpub0mb | or something |
| 01:33.11 | directhex | c0mpub0mb, OSS "just works". ALSA requires alsa-base |
| 01:33.20 | klipper | markw: i used to live in orange county |
| 01:33.22 | dondelelcaro | hooya: hrm... is /dev/sda2 there? |
| 01:33.24 | c0mpub0mb | oh i see |
| 01:33.25 | c0mpub0mb | okay |
| 01:33.28 | c0mpub0mb | hmm.. |
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| 01:33.41 | klipper | cool |
| 01:33.46 | Kilby | markw: i'll take a look but i think i've already read it |
| 01:33.56 | hooya | dondelelcaro, yeah. |
| 01:34.14 | directhex | klipper, also, ttf-freefont |
| 01:34.15 | klipper | i have a couple problems configuring programs... |
| 01:34.24 | dondelelcaro | hooya: and /dev/sda2 isn't already mounted as something? and it's been mkswap'ed and has the right fstype? |
| 01:34.32 | klipper | whats that, directhex? |
| 01:34.38 | dondelelcaro | hooya: check dmesg too... |
| 01:34.58 | droopy | Is anybody installed docbook-xml in unstable lately. It won't install!! any help? |
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| 01:35.31 | markw | klipper: you want a purty desktop? Is it a fairly fast box? |
| 01:36.14 | hooya | dondelelcaro, fstype: check. mkswap'ed at install time. i'll check dmesg. and i'll try a mkswap again. that makes sense.. |
| 01:36.21 | klipper | yeah |
| 01:36.22 | moh_ | is it possible to have make-kpkg use a script that uses grub instead of lilo? |
| 01:36.24 | markw | klipper: what flavor? stable,testing, or sid? |
| 01:36.34 | klipper | of what? |
| 01:36.41 | tcsetattr | hooya, file -s /dev/sda2 |
| 01:36.44 | markw | klipper: debian. |
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| 01:37.08 | klipper | im no sure, it was a net nstall |
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| 01:37.49 | klipper | brb |
| 01:37.51 | markw | klipper: I'm guessing it's stable. |
| 01:38.02 | markw | klipper: take a look at /etc/apt/sources.net |
| 01:38.25 | syamajala | can someone help me with a php error? |
| 01:38.26 | syamajala | i keep getting this error when i do apt-get install php4 "dpkg: error processing php4 (--configure): |
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| 01:39.14 | jetscreamer | sources.list maybe |
| 01:39.19 | hooya | tcsetattr, block special (8/2) |
| 01:39.51 | _Gil | when trying to load a custom compiled 2.6 kernel with loadlin it says: "invalid compresison method" |
| 01:39.56 | jetscreamer | syamajala, examine the output and determine exactly why it's doing that |
| 01:40.00 | _Gil | anybody can help? |
| 01:40.04 | hooya | dondelelcaro, dmesg: unable to find swap-space signature |
| 01:40.19 | jetscreamer | try mkswap /dev/blah |
| 01:40.21 | syamajala | jetscreamer, thanks a lot i think that fixed it ;-p |
| 01:40.31 | jetscreamer | aha |
| 01:40.50 | droopy | Is anybody installed docbook-xml in unstable lately. It won't install!! any help? |
| 01:40.56 | jetscreamer | or check your fstab and your swap |
| 01:41.07 | klipper | i have some problems configing apps |
| 01:41.16 | klipper | a cpp error and a gtk error |
| 01:41.23 | klipper | i have both installed though! |
| 01:41.29 | hooya | dondelelcaro, mkswap did the trick. thanks. |
| 01:41.32 | Kilby | markw: if a nessus' user auth method is based on "certificate" which password shoud it use? |
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| 01:42.10 | jetscreamer | wtg dondelelcaro |
| 01:42.22 | markw | Kilby: I think there's like a nessus-adduser or some sort of command to set that up. |
| 01:42.50 | Kilby | yep, but it doesnt ask for a password if |
| 01:42.55 | Kilby | cert method is chosen |
| 01:43.06 | Kilby | but nessus prompt still asks for it when trying to log in |
| 01:43.12 | _Gil | maybe somebody knows, won't the 2.6.## allow to load itself with the loadlin? |
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| 01:43.36 | hooya | dondelelcaro, is there a limit on the number of tcp sockets opened? is it figured in with the fd? |
| 01:43.51 | jetscreamer | _Gil, i "may" have seen something similar or relating to that, but i could not swear in the least bit |
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| 01:44.22 | jetscreamer | mighta been initrd no idea |
| 01:44.29 | _Gil | it says something like "from now on - only lilo is supported" |
| 01:44.56 | directhex | 2.6 works from grub |
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| 01:45.22 | ivan | i've got both smtpd and smtpd.postfix in /usr/lib/postfix, which one do i need? |
| 01:45.32 | dondelelcaro | hooya: uh, I think so... |
| 01:45.39 | dondelelcaro | hooya: I can't remember though... it's pretty huge... |
| 01:45.47 | ivan | smtpd says "No SASL Authentication methods" while smtpd.postfix says SASL not compiled in |
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| 01:46.13 | _Gil | where is the best place for lilo docs online? |
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| 01:46.41 | jetscreamer | tldp.org works |
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| 01:47.17 | _Gil | thanks |
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| 01:47.58 | hooya | dondelelcaro, i've got a coyotepoint equalizer on the front of it. and the graph on it shows that the machines are just wont do connections beyond 600~ active. can't figure out what the hell it is. the machines are sitting pretty idle. with gobs of memory with a gbit backplane to talk to the db. but just won't handle more than 600~ active connections. there has got to be some sort of limit. |
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| 01:48.59 | scarynetworkguy | Kilby, why do you want nessus? |
| 01:49.27 | Unleashed2k | What image files do i need to install linux by netinstall...I have 2 floppys |
| 01:49.42 | Kilby | scarynetworkguy: I want to learn to use snort |
| 01:49.55 | scarynetworkguy | Kilby, and what does nessus have to do with snort? |
| 01:50.14 | klipper | yo nigga! |
| 01:50.15 | Kilby | pen tests may get snort alert |
| 01:50.33 | Kilby | i also want to test my network security |
