| 00:00.04 | t-jack | Anthro go byebye? |
| 00:00.12 | cafuego | huw_: What is the mouse protocol set to now? |
| 00:00.14 | greycat | huw_: I hope you meant apt-get update |
| 00:00.23 | huw_ | yes, sorry |
| 00:00.40 | t-jack | Oh well... |
| 00:00.41 | huw_ | exps2 |
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| 00:01.08 | cafuego | huw_: "exps2" or "ExPS/2" |
| 00:01.08 | huw_ | if I use ExplorerPS/2 it gives me "cannot open device" errors |
| 00:01.15 | huw_ | exps2 |
| 00:01.17 | cafuego | huw_: Ah ok, that's more promising. |
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| 00:01.33 | simonrvn | try imps/2 ? |
| 00:01.34 | cafuego | huw_: Are the usb input modules loaded? |
| 00:01.39 | andres | sorry i got disconected |
| 00:01.51 | andres | id id not found the packge called lame |
| 00:01.54 | simonrvn | oh, nm, "cannot open device". forget what i said |
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| 00:01.57 | greycat | andres: /msg dpkg lame |
| 00:02.01 | greycat | andres: /msg dpkg marillat |
| 00:02.10 | cafuego | huw_: it doesn't know 'exps2', which is why you're getting that error. Change it to "ExplorerPS/2" and then fix the device string. |
| 00:02.23 | dan2 | imurdock: hey |
| 00:02.29 | huw_ | "cannot open device /dev/input/mice" |
| 00:02.37 | imurdock | hi there |
| 00:02.41 | cafuego | huw_: Yes, you need drivers for that, too. |
| 00:02.46 | simonrvn | hello |
| 00:02.49 | dan2 | imurdock: I am real interested in Componentized Linux... |
| 00:02.52 | Cosmo` | bah jeanpoldeux, that fucked it up ... i just need to simply get it running in 1280x1024 at 60Hz |
| 00:03.00 | huw_ | i ran apt-get install usbmgr |
| 00:03.01 | Cosmo` | is there not an easy way to do this ? |
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| 00:03.02 | jeanpoldeux | andres: if you're interrested, have a look for oggenc. (vorbis-tools). perhaps sound-juicer supports it. |
| 00:03.06 | cafuego | huw_: *nod* |
| 00:03.21 | cafuego | huw_: But if /dev/input/mice doesn't erxist, that won't help much :-) |
| 00:03.23 | huw_ | am I missing a step... bitchx's colorful text is distracting me =/ |
| 00:03.24 | jeanpoldeux | Cosmo`: what fucked what ? |
| 00:03.26 | andres | how og orvis compares to mp3?: |
| 00:03.29 | Cosmo` | well, running that config |
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| 00:03.34 | andres | as in sound and compression? |
| 00:03.35 | t-jack | greycat: I wonder what Christian might think of sharing a name (almost) with a certain Morman hotelier? |
| 00:03.35 | imurdock | dan2: good to hear.. some interesting stuff on the pretty immediate horizon.. |
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| 00:03.43 | jeanpoldeux | andres: generally better, and it's free format. |
| 00:03.43 | Cosmo` | i think it's trying to output to resolutions my monitor cant do now |
| 00:03.46 | strubbel | cafuego: do you recommend a final version for the bios or a newer betha one? |
| 00:03.48 | simonrvn | this is why you use something sane like irssi |
| 00:03.50 | greycat | andres: Vorbis is higher quality at every bit rate, *especially* at low bit rates like 64-96 kbps |
| 00:03.50 | cafuego | andres: better sound at same compression, hardly supported in mainstream hardware players. |
| 00:03.51 | dan2 | imurdock: well, I am hoping it provides a solution for me |
| 00:04.03 | Cosmo` | jeanpoldeux: can i not specify the resolution and refresh rate i want X to run in within a config file ? |
| 00:04.07 | greycat | cafuego: most of the latest ones do support Vorbis. Neuros, iRiver, etc. |
| 00:04.10 | cafuego | strubbel: beta bios? never! Get a final version, then see if the hdd works OK. |
| 00:04.14 | huw_ | cafuego : if I "more /dev/input/mice" I get "no such device" |
| 00:04.17 | jeanpoldeux | Cosmo`: you have to know which resolution your monitor support before to experiment dangerous things. |
| 00:04.21 | imurdock | dan2: are you subscribed to the mailing list? |
| 00:04.21 | greycat | dpkg vorbis hardware |
| 00:04.21 | dpkg | rumour has it, vorbis hardware is http://wiki.xiph.org/VorbisHardware |
| 00:04.23 | dan2 | imurdock: I am building prototype mini-itx boxen right now for the purpose of providing a voip multiserver to be redistributed by IP Centrex |
| 00:04.27 | dan2 | imurdock: no, I am not |
| 00:04.29 | Cosmo` | jeanpoldeux: i know exactly what it supports |
| 00:04.30 | strubbel | cafuego: ok |
| 00:04.33 | andres | this sound juicer dont give me the option to set compression with ogg orvis |
| 00:04.44 | cafuego | greycat: Yeah, but they're hardly mainstream (I've never seen ANYONE with one of them) |
| 00:04.45 | imurdock | dan2: sounds like a good application for it |
| 00:04.45 | jeanpoldeux | Cosmo`: then ? |
| 00:04.46 | strubbel | cafuego: got it! |
| 00:04.48 | Cosmo` | jeanpoldeux: i actually put in the specifications from the manual into the config, yet it's trying to output to something it seems it cant do |
| 00:04.53 | greycat | andres: if it's a CD ripper/encoder, just use one in Debian instead. Like abcde or grip. |
| 00:05.07 | greycat | cafuego: I have a Neuros. |
| 00:05.19 | cafuego | greycat: That would make you "fringe" then ;-) |
| 00:05.20 | greycat | cafuego: the only recent mainstream one that *doesn't* do ogg is iPod. |
| 00:05.27 | dan2 | imurdock: anyway, you pay me 35-40 a month and I deal with ip centrex, and you get 2 voip phone numbers, firewall, router, wireless ap, local and remote backup, vpn, and file server all inclusive |
| 00:05.33 | jeanpoldeux | Cosmo`: that would be very strange. |
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| 00:05.51 | andres | ok i need an mp3 encoder |
| 00:05.56 | greycat | andres: lame. |
| 00:05.56 | Cosmo` | jeanpoldeux: is it possible to simply define the resolution and refresh rate for X to run in within a config file ? e.g. 1280x1024 @ 60Hz ? |
| 00:05.56 | dan2 | imurdock: I am trying to figure out ways to easily mass-upgrade remotely, and make standardized distributions for it |
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| 00:06.22 | cafuego | huw_: yes, do 'cd /dev && ./MAKEDEV input' |
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| 00:06.27 | deadcat | dan2: jees. making deals happen eh? (= |
| 00:06.27 | cafuego | huw_: See what happens after that. |
| 00:06.36 | jeanpoldeux | Cosmo`: if your monitor supports 1024x768 at 60Mhz, make a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, put that in it and you're done. |
| 00:06.37 | Klasis | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:06.39 | adhoc | mornen all =) |
| 00:06.39 | greycat | Cosmo`: for anything more advanced than "type the H/V numbers from the monitor manual" you need to ask #Xfree86 |
| 00:06.42 | Klasis | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:06.43 | strubbel | cafuego: it's 1007.bin, can i dd it to a disk to give it a try |
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| 00:06.51 | simonrvn | someone kick the fucker please |
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| 00:06.54 | simonrvn | thanks |
| 00:06.55 | imurdock | dan2: sounds like a good plan.. BUT you're going to need to provide your customers with some assurance that you have longevity |
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| 00:06.59 | imurdock | dan2: that |
| 00:06.59 | dan2 | imurdock: you have to pay for the box upfront, but componentized linux might be just what I am looking for |
| 00:07.06 | imurdock | dan2: that's the rub |
| 00:07.07 | Cosmo` | jeanpoldeux: the annoying thing is, in the config, it doesn't have the option for 1280x1024 |
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| 00:07.13 | dan2 | imurdock: may I pm? |
| 00:07.31 | Cosmo` | jeanpoldeux: presumabley because it's not in the standard aspect ratio |
| 00:07.33 | jeanpoldeux | Cosmo`: did you choose advanced config ? |
| 00:07.45 | imurdock | dan2: those are very typical problems for people building custom distros, and we're trying to provide out of the box solutions to them in CL |
| 00:07.57 | Cosmo` | jeanpoldeux: yeah, then it asked me about the verticle and horizontal things, i put those in, and it now wont start X properly |
| 00:07.58 | imurdock | dan2: "pm"? sorry, i'm a bit rusty at this.. :-) |
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| 00:08.02 | huw_ | Ok, is there any x setup script that I can run to reconfigure this mouse? I think I screwed the file |
| 00:08.08 | Cosmo` | jeanpoldeux: and yes, they were the correct values, straight out of the manual |
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| 00:08.10 | dan2 | imurdock: private message window? |
| 00:08.11 | cafuego | strubbel: If it's a 1.44MB file, then probably, yes. |
| 00:08.16 | [BoErGaR] | hiho |
| 00:08.27 | imurdock | dan2: how about email? imurdock@progeny.com |
| 00:08.32 | dan2 | imurdock: ok :) |
| 00:08.38 | t-jack | simonrvn: SpamBots are such fun... not. |
| 00:08.38 | jeanpoldeux | Cosmo`: but what was your config before ? why do you want to change if it worked ? |
| 00:08.49 | jcarr | hahahah |
| 00:09.00 | mechan0r | stupid question of the day: Do you own a credit card. It says right on the back that the card does not belong to you. |
| 00:09.05 | jcarr | A BIT TIME AGO RUSSIAN SCIENTISTS CAVED A SHAFT ABOUT 14,4 KM FOR RECORDING THE FAULT LINE'S ACTIVITY SOUNDS. BUT AFTER FOR A WHILE THEY'VE HEARD LOW FREQUENCY HUMAN VOICES. THIS LINK INCLUDES THAT VOICE'S SOUND FILE. SURELY LISTEN IT ==> |
| 00:09.07 | Cosmo` | jeanpoldeux: i accepted it running at 1024x768 at 75Hz, yet it can run in 1280x1024 at 60Hz, just the option wasn't in the configuration |
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| 00:09.16 | imurdock | dan2: happy to talk to you about it, always happy to learn a bit more about what people are doing |
| 00:09.19 | andres | can i paste somethinbg here please? |
| 00:09.20 | [BoErGaR] | i have a little probleme while compiling my drivers for wlan (realtek 2500 chipset) --> "make all" --> implicit declaration of function "try_module_get" - can someone help?!??! |
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| 00:09.27 | andres | im unable to install lame |
| 00:09.31 | strubbel | cafuego: it's 256kb |
| 00:09.33 | andres | it says obsolete |
| 00:09.46 | greycat | andres: /msg dpkg lame /msg dpkg marillat |
| 00:09.51 | cafuego | strubbel: That sounds like you need a flasher as well, the .bin will be *just* the bios rom. |
| 00:09.55 | jeanpoldeux | Cosmo`: wait a sec. |
| 00:10.09 | Cosmo` | jeanpoldeux: no worries, i'm trying in #Xfree86 too. |
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| 00:10.52 | [BoErGaR] | >___< |
| 00:10.52 | strubbel | cafuego: ok, there are some for windoze |
| 00:11.11 | jcarr | accidental paste |
| 00:11.12 | jcarr | lol |
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| 00:11.22 | t-jack | Sure |
| 00:11.25 | jcarr | thatsite is lame |
| 00:12.00 | [BoErGaR] | cant someone try to help me... im sitting here now for >3hrs :( |
| 00:12.11 | [BoErGaR] | and i cant find a solution on google etcf |
| 00:12.21 | jcarr | why does he use an iframe for the image? |
| 00:12.23 | greycat | [BoErGaR]: you've been here 4 minutes. |
| 00:12.25 | jcarr | trhat doesnt make sense |
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| 00:12.50 | [BoErGaR] | yes, here |
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| 00:12.51 | [BoErGaR] | sorry |
| 00:12.57 | [BoErGaR] | i tried on the debian box etc *g* |
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| 00:14.18 | ady | hello |
| 00:14.22 | Blissex|watch | [BoErGaR]: just ask your question clearl;y without much whining... |
| 00:14.24 | jeanpoldeux | Cosmo`: was on the phone. Just choose "medium" for the screen config, 1280x1024 60 hz is there. |
| 00:14.38 | [BoErGaR] | i have a little probleme while compiling my drivers for wlan (realtek 2500 chipset) --> "make all" --> implicit declaration of function "try_module_get" - can someone help?!??! |
| 00:14.54 | Wind2 | how can I prevent getty from start ? |
| 00:15.00 | greycat | Wind2: edit /etc/inittab |
| 00:15.00 | Covener | Wind2: inittab |
| 00:15.21 | Cosmo` | jeanpoldeux: fantastic, i'll take a look |
| 00:15.31 | Cosmo` | jeanpoldeux: i dont remember it being there last time, i might have been mistaken though heh |
| 00:15.34 | Blissex|watch | [BoErGaR]: is the question " can homeone help" , which is a poll, or "how can I learn C" or "How can I do a quick fix" or "what other things can I try"? |
| 00:15.52 | greycat | Cosmo`: if you have read-edid and discover installed, it should. |
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| 00:16.23 | huw_ | Whats the command run setup for X? |
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| 00:16.30 | greycat | huw_: /msg dpkg set up x |
| 00:16.33 | jeanpoldeux | Blissex|watch: the question is "Hi, I want to be a hacker. Can ne1 learn me how to do ?" |
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| 00:16.37 | greycat | huw_: or see the FAQ. |
| 00:16.38 | ady | i'd make the command apt-get install proftpd and doesen't work the anonymous user |
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| 00:16.48 | andres | i download it tyhe tar from lame but its a little complicated anyother mp3 encoder? |
| 00:16.56 | greycat | andres: /msg dpkg lame /msg dpkg marillat |
| 00:16.57 | [BoErGaR] | no, sorry |
| 00:16.58 | andres | i can use with sound juicer? |
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| 00:17.03 | Cosmo` | greycat: it's not there for me, what's read-edid and discover ? |
| 00:17.06 | greycat | WTF is "sound juicer" |
| 00:17.10 | boomboom22 | hi, how can i reconfig my network using dpkg-reconfigure |
| 00:17.11 | boomboom22 | ? |
| 00:17.13 | greycat | !FAQsmite Cosmo` |
| 00:17.13 | dpkg | Cosmo`: GO READ THE FAQ!! It's at http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ -- greycat and others have SLAVED for HOURS to make a FAQ that answers your question and you don't even bother to read it! http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 00:17.17 | andres | grey cat i already did what dpkg said |
| 00:17.19 | ady | so anybody can help me? |
| 00:17.20 | jeanpoldeux | greycat: a cd ripper |
| 00:17.25 | greycat | andres: so you downloaded a LAME .deb from marillat. |
| 00:17.31 | greycat | andres: so WHY DO YOU HAVE A TARBALL? |
| 00:17.35 | Cosmo` | lol ... blimey |
| 00:17.39 | greycat | jeanpoldeux: just use grip or abcde. |
| 00:17.54 | andres | i have a traball cause i download it from where dpkg said |
| 00:18.05 | jeanpoldeux | greycat: I use cdparanoia and lame or oggenc. |
| 00:18.12 | ady | i'd make the command apt-get install proftpd and doesen't work the anonymous user why? |
| 00:18.12 | Wind2 | greycat I just comment the getty entries out, right ? |
| 00:18.12 | dan2 | imurdock: I sent an email to you :) |
| 00:18.13 | boomboom22 | anyone? |
| 00:18.13 | boomboom22 | dpkg-reconfigure netbase asks no questions |
| 00:18.13 | boomboom22 | so im stumped |
| 00:18.17 | greycat | andres: "Get .debs from here: ...." didn't work? |
| 00:18.30 | greycat | boomboom22: man interfaces; man resolv.conf |
| 00:18.33 | _etc | what command do I use instead modconf in 2.6.6 kernel? |
| 00:18.36 | andres | oops sorry |
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| 00:18.40 | andres | lemme check again |
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| 00:18.57 | boomboom22 | greycat: but how to i rerun the network config dialog i had when i installed the system? |
| 00:19.13 | greycat | boomboom22: base-config, if you insist on being a newbie forever. |
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| 00:19.23 | jeanpoldeux | greycat: hehehe |
| 00:19.24 | boomboom22 | greycat: you hurt me good |
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| 00:19.48 | boomboom22 | dpkg-reconfigure base-config |
| 00:19.51 | boomboom22 | that does nothing |
| 00:19.54 | boomboom22 | asks no questions |
| 00:19.57 | Supaplex | is there a package/program/util that will allow me to interact with one terminal from two terminals at the same time? eg, say localy and ssh'ed in. (w/o constantly detaching and reattaching screen) |
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| 00:20.17 | jeanpoldeux | boomboom22: what do you want ? to change your ip ? to run adsl ? |
| 00:20.21 | mrSCO | I use tarballs rather than debs |
| 00:20.25 | boomboom22 | use dhcp |
| 00:20.25 | rustyBOFH | hi folks |
| 00:20.26 | mrSCO | more up to date |
| 00:20.26 | petemc | Supaplex: screen -x is too much hassle? |
| 00:20.28 | greycat | Supaplex: screen -x |
| 00:20.38 | Supaplex | lemmie look :) |
| 00:20.39 | mrSCO | deb's are usually quite stale, even in sid |
| 00:20.44 | Cosmo` | hmm it's obviously not that |
| 00:20.46 | cafuego | mrSCO: Why do you bother using Debian then? |
| 00:20.50 | rustyBOFH | anybody is using raid with stable version and 2.6.x kernel? |
| 00:20.50 | jeanpoldeux | boomboom22: dhclient |
| 00:20.50 | greycat | *usually*. except when they're broken. |
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| 00:20.55 | Cosmo` | i need to somehow let it autodetct my GFX card settings |
| 00:20.56 | mrSCO | cafuego, I dunno |
| 00:21.02 | kelon | boomboom22, install etherconfig |
| 00:21.05 | boomboom22 | jeanpolduex: yeah but how do i get that dialog. is my system broken? |
| 00:21.08 | mrSCO | I guess I like the red swirl |
| 00:21.10 | helix | cafuego: then he'd have to find something else to troll about |
| 00:21.14 | sussudio | mrSCO: who unbanned you? |
| 00:21.18 | cafuego | helix: You're awake! |
| 00:21.22 | helix | barely.. |
| 00:21.25 | jeanpoldeux | boomboom22: you run dhclient and you're online. |
| 00:21.25 | cafuego | <heh> |
| 00:21.26 | mrSCO | sussudio, wrong channel ;) |
| 00:21.27 | kelon | boomboom22, it'll help you to configure your network |
| 00:21.31 | cafuego | helix: Seen infinite cat? |
| 00:21.35 | helix | cafuego: no |
| 00:21.35 | boomboom22 | kelon: no such pkg |
| 00:21.58 | mrSCO | anyway, please remember to pay your Linux Dues at the end of the month |
| 00:22.04 | helix | foad |
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| 00:22.08 | andres | greycat im at the ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ what do i do now? |
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| 00:22.14 | kelon | boomboom22, I'm sorry, but there is it |
| 00:22.24 | mrSCO | failure to pay for your Linux IP license will result in an end user lawsuite... for 10 BILLION DOLLARS!!! |
| 00:22.25 | deadcat | andres: you want mplayer? |
| 00:22.38 | petemc | kelon: itym etherconf |
| 00:22.39 | kelon | boomboom22, didn't you have a typo? |
| 00:22.49 | helix | cafuego: not you. what is infinite cat? |
| 00:22.56 | cafuego | helix: www.infinitecat.com |
| 00:23.07 | andres | no i wanted an mp3 encoder i was told to install sound juicer sound juicer tell me i need an mp3 encoder |
| 00:23.27 | cafuego | helix: Images of cats looking at images of cats looking at images of cats.... |
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| 00:23.33 | kelon | petemc, itym? |
| 00:23.35 | andres | sorry i wanted a cd ripper |
| 00:23.41 | deadcat | andres: that link has lame. you might want that. put that in your /etc/apt/sources.list and update |
| 00:23.42 | sussudio | greycat: mrSCO is jcarr. you banned him earlier, can you make it permanent? |
| 00:23.42 | Covener | andres: install lame like we suggested an hour ago |
| 00:23.42 | petemc | kelon: i think you mean |
| 00:23.43 | Wind2 | Do I need getty for SSH ? |
| 00:23.46 | jeanpoldeux | andres: how many times do we need to say it? download a LAME.deb FILE |
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| 00:23.55 | Blissex|watch | andres: you want both. Use Grip with 'oggenc' or 'lame'. |
| 00:24.06 | Mag007 | what does the 2.8c mean on the intel p4 proceessors? |
| 00:24.07 | kelon | petemc, ok :) it's new to my jargon |
| 00:24.19 | andres | greycat im at the ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ what do i do now? |
| 00:24.25 | greycat | andres: read. think. |
| 00:24.27 | Blissex|watch | andres: check our the Marillat/nerim repository for lots of nice things |
| 00:24.28 | kelon | boomboom22, I'm sorry, it's etherconf :) |
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| 00:24.31 | deadcat | !tell adres about mplayer |
| 00:24.33 | jeanpoldeux | !moron andres |
| 00:24.33 | dpkg | andres: You are moron #45 |
| 00:24.34 | cafuego | Mag007: 'crap' ? |
| 00:24.34 | _etc | mag007: speed in c units? |
| 00:24.35 | afaik | actually no.... |
| 00:24.36 | sussudio | Mag007: do you ever use google? |
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| 00:24.42 | deadcat | !tell andres about mplayer |
| 00:24.47 | Mag007 | sussudio, don't know the search term for google |
| 00:24.52 | deadcat | andres: follow that instruction. but just apt-get install lame |
| 00:24.53 | andres | sorry im just a newbie no need to get aggresive |
| 00:24.56 | sussudio | Mag007: how about intel.com? |
| 00:24.58 | greycat | deadcat: he wants LAME because he thinks he wants to encode MP3s. |
| 00:25.02 | kelon | boomboom22, http://packages.debian.org/stable/net/etherconf |
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| 00:25.11 | deadcat | greycat: oh... |
| 00:25.11 | Blissex|watch | andres: add the sources to that repository to your '/etc/apt/sources.list' file. I have some examples here: http://WWW.sabi.co.UK/Cfg/APT/sources.list |
| 00:25.43 | jeanpoldeux | andres: it's all explained, put the lines in your /etc/apt/sources.list, apt-get update, apt-get install lame. |
| 00:25.46 | rustyBOFH | nobody using raid software? |
| 00:25.49 | imurdock | dan2: got it.. will respond soon, have a huge backlog from my recent travels |
| 00:25.50 | t-jack | Doing the greycat strut, tonight... |
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| 00:26.22 | Wind2 | Do I need getty for SSH ? please help |
| 00:26.28 | deadcat | Wind2: no |
| 00:26.31 | Wind2 | thanks |
| 00:26.38 | andres | tell you what ill just rip in ogg orvis format using sound juicer sorry to break your balls when some one comes along that really have patinece ill ask again thanks again for your answers |
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| 00:26.40 | dan2 | imurdock: I see, thanks |
| 00:26.41 | helix | imurdock: ian! |
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| 00:26.46 | edrx | which package do I need to install to be able to start gnome by hand from a non-gnome environment? I don't use X much (I'm a caveman with an old machine), and when I'm in X I use fvwm... btw, I'm on woody... TIA |
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| 00:27.04 | Mag007 | looks like 2.6 benchmarks are better then 2.8c, just wondering what the C is for. |
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| 00:27.29 | imurdock | helix: hi there, figured it was time for my annual visit here.. :-) |
| 00:27.35 | deadcat | Mag007: Coppermine? |
| 00:27.36 | helix | heh |
| 00:27.44 | jeanpoldeux | edrx: I think you need gnome-base or something like that. |
| 00:27.51 | Blissex|watch | edrx: 'gnome-session' |
| 00:28.02 | sussudio | greycat: he's flooding debhelper now. |
| 00:28.16 | deadcat | you are moron #1! |
| 00:28.35 | cafuego | Mag007: It probably stands for a modified core, maybe an older one. |
| 00:28.36 | Blissex|watch | edrx: that;s the command you need to start GNOME. The packages that you need for _installing_ GNOME are a different matter. |
| 00:28.49 | rue_mohr | @find libGLU.so |
| 00:28.53 | greycat | sussudio: seems debhelper's able to care for himself. |
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| 00:29.06 | edrx | Blissex|watch: I just tried gnome-session... its entry in /var/lib/status/available says it's for saving window configs |
| 00:29.21 | edrx | jeanpoldeux: I'm trying gnome-base... |
| 00:29.38 | t-jack | deadcat: Finally found Number One, I see... |
| 00:29.41 | Blissex|watch | edrx: that is a command, not a package. It is the command used to _start_ GNOME. Like 'startx' or 'startkde'. |
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| 00:30.56 | Cosmo` | does anyone know which Xfree86 driver should be used for 3dfx cards ? |
| 00:31.17 | sussudio | !3dfx |
| 00:31.17 | dpkg | methinks 3dfx is the name of the company who makes the legendary voodoo 3D acceleration cards (see http://www.3dfx.com). There is also /dev/3dfx which is needed for glide support under X <=3.3.6 (see device3dfx-source package). It is not needed for X4, use tdfx instead. now owned by nVida.... time to start buying Matrox :), or at #3dfx |
| 00:31.19 | deadcat | t-jack: i am the new number 2. you are number 6 |
| 00:32.04 | jeanpoldeux | It's moron's night tonight, everything's gonna be, alright |
| 00:32.13 | t-jack | deadcat: contrarily, I'm a clown, a fool if you will... not a moron... |
| 00:32.42 | Mag007 | yo, anyone here have linux on amd64? |
| 00:32.52 | deadcat | t-jack: i assume you've never seen "the prisoner"? |
| 00:32.53 | sussudio | ... |
| 00:33.03 | sgeigerbot | sussudio: .. .. |
| 00:33.16 | ninja_ | Mag007: #debian-amd64 |
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| 00:33.36 | t-jack | deadcat: In fact, no I haven't. But I've heard a bit about it, and seen copycat series. |
| 00:33.53 | deadcat | t-jack: what you mean copycat series? |
| 00:34.10 | t-jack | deadcat: eg Nowhere Man... |
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| 00:34.19 | deadcat | t-jack: i see. |
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| 00:34.43 | jeanpoldeux | copycat, it's Z-series isn't it ? |
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| 00:35.03 | cafuego | Mag007: I've done a successful install, yes. |
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| 00:35.16 | t-jack | deadcat: Things are never as they were presented to be. Next epi may show what was heretofor Truth to be just another manipulation. |
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| 00:35.37 | greycat | god, trolls suck. |
| 00:35.56 | edrx | Blissex|watch: you were right... gnome-session is the thing, I think it wasn't working because fvwm was running and gnome didn't know how to kill it... I killed fvwm by hand and it worked. thanks |
| 00:36.19 | Mag007 | cafuego, are all pacakges 64 bit too? |
| 00:36.20 | t-jack | greycat: Can suck a tick off a dog's ass at 200 yards? |
| 00:37.28 | cafuego | Mag007: If you install using the pure64 cd image, yes. |
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| 00:37.49 | rue_mohr | @find libGLU.so |
| 00:37.55 | t-jack | I... did not realize how disgusting that would read until it was too late... :( |
| 00:38.31 | Mag007 | cafuego, swwwwet dude |
| 00:38.51 | jeanpoldeux | rue_mohr: what are you trying to do ???? |
| 00:38.59 | cafuego | Mag007: I think the latest stat is that about 4% of the packages remains to be ported across. |
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| 00:41.05 | deadcat | anyone else having this problem" "feh: Depends: giblib1 (> 1.2.3) but it is not going to be installed" |
| 00:41.07 | Thalias | I'm having trouble configuring my network connection |
| 00:41.17 | deadcat | Thalias: /etc/network/interfaces |
| 00:41.28 | Thalias | thanks I'll look |
| 00:41.37 | deadcat | Thalias: or simply dhclient ethX |
| 00:41.58 | rue_mohr | jeanpoldeux: trying to fix the ode compile |
| 00:42.15 | rue_mohr | jeanpoldeux: is seems that is something bliken |
| 00:42.39 | jeanpoldeux | deadcat: this package is part of unstable. |
| 00:43.04 | deadcat | jeanpoldeux: i am on unstable. maybe is broken or something. since i reinstalled my box yesterday. |
| 00:43.17 | jeanpoldeux | deadcat: possible. |
| 00:43.44 | deadcat | jeanpoldeux: picked the wrong day to reinstall. (= few problems lastnight. but mostly broken pkgs. |
| 00:44.09 | rue_mohr | I'm trying to get gazeebo working without upgradingmy whole system |
| 00:44.24 | jeanpoldeux | deadcat: my (recent) experience in sid is : stay cool, wait one or two days, shit happens. |
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| 00:44.53 | deadcat | jeanpoldeux: true. shit does happen in 1-2 days (= i've been apt-get update like crazy lately. heheheh |
| 00:44.58 | Led_Zeppelin | cafuego, thats pretty impressive. Development is fast in Debian! |
| 00:45.04 | Led_Zeppelin | cafuego, do you notice any difference? |
| 00:45.06 | t-jack | deadcat: Lots of breaks today? I'm lucky then I forwent my upgrade. Imagine having a broken libc... |
| 00:45.17 | rue_mohr | the people who wrote ode didn't seem to document anything about what versions of what libs they used |
| 00:45.27 | rue_mohr | (grrrrrrrrrrrrrr) |
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| 00:46.06 | deadcat | t-jack: well. just having trouhble to get feh and sysv-rc-bootsplslash is bitching about my sysv-rc being too new. |
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| 00:47.51 | t-jack | deadcat: eh... that sounds familiar... Unfortunately, I -did- newly-install 2.4.26 kernel and alsa modules today. Maybe the crux is that I installed for all arch's... |
| 00:47.53 | Thalias | nothing happens when I run dhclient eth0 |
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| 00:48.21 | t-jack | Thalias: do ifconfig |
| 00:48.48 | t-jack | Thalias: Do you see eth0 is up? |
| 00:49.01 | Thalias | eth0 and eth1 are up |
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| 00:49.37 | deadcat | Thalias: what are you trying to do? ping the other machine? |
| 00:49.37 | andres | how do i insert those lines in the etc/apt/sources/list as regular user?" |
| 00:49.49 | greycat | andres: you don't, of cousre. |
| 00:49.52 | Thalias | that would be nice |
| 00:49.54 | t-jack | Thalias: Try the other if then. |
| 00:49.54 | deadcat | andres: sudo $EDITOR /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 00:50.04 | andres | what about vi |
| 00:50.13 | greycat | ${EDITOR:-vi} |
| 00:50.17 | deadcat | Thalias: make sure cable is connected then ping thathost. it should work after the dhclient eth0 |
| 00:50.29 | deadcat | greycat: girrrrl (= |
| 00:50.32 | andres | ok the command would be..... vi sources.list? |
| 00:50.42 | greycat | !sunday |
| 00:50.42 | dpkg | Sunday is the day all freaks swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane. |
| 00:50.43 | deadcat | andres: sudo if you're not root. |
| 00:50.45 | Thalias | II know my cables are connected |
| 00:50.47 | jeanpoldeux | apropos unstable, any idea how long I have to wait before to come back to testing ? I changed my sources.list for one week, and have 9 packs that would be upgraded. Better to upgrade yet, or to wait a while ? |
| 00:51.01 | Thalias | when I try and ping myother machine all packets get lost |
| 00:51.01 | andres | sorry greycat |
| 00:51.15 | deadcat | Thalias: /sbin/ifconfig -a see if eth0 or 1 has an ip or not |
| 00:51.30 | Thalias | it does |
| 00:51.43 | Thalias | 192.168.1.113 |
| 00:51.52 | deadcat | Thalias: which one? eth0? |
| 00:52.10 | Thalias | yes |
| 00:52.33 | deadcat | Thalias: route shoudl show you have 1 default route. and make sure othermachine is ON (= |
| 00:52.36 | Thalias | I have both of them set up identical |
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| 00:52.50 | Thalias | I'm using the other machine |
| 00:53.06 | jeanpoldeux | andres: I think you should buy a little linux basics handbook, with vi, bash and so on explained. your life would be much more easier ;) |
| 00:53.11 | deadcat | Thalias: you running firewall thats blocking ping? |
| 00:53.22 | andres | ebian:/home/andres# sudo |
| 00:53.22 | andres | bash: sudo: command not found |
| 00:53.22 | andres | debian:/home/andres# sudo $editor |
| 00:53.22 | andres | bash: sudo: command not found |
| 00:53.22 | andres | debian:/home/andres# |
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| 00:53.43 | deadcat | andreww: if you are root, you dont need to type sudo |
| 00:53.43 | Thalias | nope |
| 00:53.43 | andres | sorry |
| 00:53.54 | jeanpoldeux | andres: I think you should buy a little linux basics handbook, with vi, bash and so on explained. your life would be much more easier ;) |
| 00:54.11 | andres | wich one do u recomend im in usa |
| 00:54.22 | jeanpoldeux | andres: look at o'reilly |
| 00:54.29 | andres | ok thanks |
| 00:54.37 | deadcat | Thalias: can the other box ping this? |
| 00:54.49 | Thalias | ping what |
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| 00:54.58 | Thalias | ping the debian box? |
| 00:54.59 | deadcat | Thalias: a ping b, b ping a |
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| 00:55.24 | Thalias | a does not ping b |
| 00:55.28 | Thalias | b does not ping a |
| 00:55.49 | ninja_ | !tell andres about fundamentals |
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| 00:56.21 | jeanpoldeux | greycat: I changed my sources.list from unstable to testing, waited one week. Apt-get upgrade propose me 9 packs, with base-files in it. Can it break something if I upgrade now ? Should I wait longer ? |
| 00:56.49 | deadcat | Thalias: same network? sorry dude. this should be easy but i dont know what the f is going on there. (= |
| 00:56.52 | andres | ninja he already did thanks |
| 00:57.16 | Thalias | I know I can't seem to understand it either |
| 00:57.24 | ninja_ | andres: super, smashing, great. |
| 00:57.27 | jivera | Can anyone give a 10 cent explanation of how cups, foomatic, and xprint relate? (In the context of Debian would be especially nice.) |
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| 00:58.22 | Blissex|watch | jivera: 'xprint' is a renderer, 'foomatic' is a mime-style viewer, and CUPS is a spooler. |
| 00:58.23 | pingouin | where i'm supose to find (/dev/ ? and firewire harddrive ? |
| 00:58.37 | pingouin | s/and/an |
| 00:58.40 | Blissex|watch | pingouin: FireWire really is SCSI. |
| 00:58.40 | jeanpoldeux | pingouin: in /dev/ |
| 00:59.05 | deadcat | pingouin: cdrecord -scanbus ? |
| 00:59.11 | pingouin | ok thx |
| 00:59.11 | jivera | Blissex|watch: Ah, so xprint and cups are entirely orthogonal? |
| 00:59.19 | akriel | is vmware in the pkg database? I cant seem to find it at al |
| 00:59.22 | akriel | *all |
| 00:59.27 | deadcat | akriel: no |
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| 00:59.33 | akriel | o :/ |
| 00:59.33 | jeanpoldeux | deadcat: cdrecord ? for a hardrive ? |
| 00:59.37 | jivera | akriel: VMware is a proprietary product. |
| 00:59.39 | strubbel | Blissex|watch: really |
| 00:59.51 | deadcat | jeanpoldeux: well.. i guess dmesg will do too. |
| 00:59.54 | akriel | Jindrak, what do you recomend? |
| 01:00.01 | akriel | ops |
| 01:00.01 | pingouin | jeanpoldeux, yeah, it's see my scsi device (hd & cdburner) |
| 01:00.11 | akriel | jivera, What do you recomend if not vmware? |
| 01:00.12 | jeanpoldeux | nice :) |
| 01:00.25 | strubbel | Blissex|watch: ah, you mean emulated |
| 01:00.51 | Blissex|watch | jivera: yes, they are entirely orthogonal. |
| 01:00.57 | jivera | akriel: Well, I'm not not recommending vmware, just pointing out that's it's a proprietary product so you won't find it available as a Debian package. |
| 01:01.15 | jivera | *As an official Debian package. They might provide .debs for it. |
| 01:01.16 | akriel | ok jivera what is the newer alternitive? |
| 01:01.27 | jivera | akriel: I don't know -- I've never used VMware. |
| 01:01.30 | GregorR | qemu |
| 01:01.32 | akriel | ok |
| 01:01.36 | jivera | Blissex|watch: Thanks. |
| 01:01.42 | Blissex|watch | jivera: 'xprint' allows X applications to render the same windows they render to a monitor, to PostScript instead. |
| 01:01.44 | infinity005 | akriel: make an open source program like vmware |
| 01:01.44 | GregorR | qemu isn't quite as good as VMWare, but it's free *shrugs* |
| 01:01.45 | deadcat | jivera: get it from their site. |
| 01:01.56 | jivera | deadcat: Hm? |
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| 01:02.10 | deadcat | jivera: wrong dude. (= |
| 01:02.10 | akriel | infinity005, I dont have the skill to make one myself lol. |
| 01:02.15 | infinity005 | akriel: sounds like a good project ;) |
| 01:02.22 | GregorR | akriel: QEmu |
| 01:02.25 | Blissex|watch | jivera: 'foomatic' looks at the type of a file and selects a rasterizer for it and the destination printer (usually GhostScript) |
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| 01:02.33 | Epilog | hi there |
| 01:02.34 | akriel | ok GregorR |
| 01:02.35 | jivera | akriel: If you want to emulate Windows you can try Wine; if you want just x86 emulation try Bochs. |
| 01:02.50 | GregorR | jivera: Bochs is incredibly accurate but slow, use QEmu |
| 01:02.51 | Epilog | I'm having a strange problem. I keep getting to little disk space |
| 01:02.55 | GregorR | Why has nobody heard of QEmu >_< >_< |
| 01:03.05 | Blissex|watch | jivera: CUPS takes a file and spools it to the printer (optionally running it thru 'foomatic' first. |
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| 01:03.10 | akriel | jivera, im not trying to emulate it I need to install it for a class project but I cant abuse my computer like that and install it actually |
| 01:03.12 | jivera | GregorR: Ah, thanks for that. |
| 01:03.15 | jeanpoldeux | Epilog: what do you mean ? |
| 01:03.18 | mrwill | GregorR: is that fabrice bellard's project? |
| 01:03.20 | Epilog | Like I remove 700MB and after some time, 1/2 days I get 80k free of disk space |
| 01:03.23 | GregorR | Heheh |
| 01:03.28 | sgeigerbot | GregorR: I have heard of it. http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/ |
| 01:03.29 | GregorR | mrwill: Yeah |
| 01:03.33 | Blissex|watch | GregorR: 'qemu' is pretty good. Als check the images here: http://WWW.FreeOSZoo.org/ |
| 01:03.34 | GregorR | Yeah |
| 01:03.35 | GregorR | It rawx |
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| 01:03.43 | jivera | Blissex|watch: Hm... I wish I could figure out how I got my printer working so easily under FC2. :-/ |
| 01:03.46 | sgeigerbot | GregorR: the question is: How does it compare with user mode linux? |
| 01:03.52 | jeanpoldeux | Epilog: you "remove" 700mb ? |
| 01:03.56 | GregorR | sgeigerbot: Slow, I'd imagine ;) |
| 01:04.12 | sgeigerbot | GregorR: so why aren't you using user mode linux? |
| 01:04.19 | GregorR | Because it's a PITA X-D |
| 01:04.21 | Epilog | jeanpoldeux: more like mv film.avi to another partition |
| 01:04.34 | sgeigerbot | GregorR: what's a pita? |
| 01:04.37 | GregorR | Does UML work on 2.6 now? I thought it didn't? |
| 01:04.39 | infinity005 | hmm ..if ssh is used for rsync, etc etc. when why is it considered minimal latency in QOS? is there anyway to classify interactive sessions and rsync type stuff? |
| 01:04.41 | GregorR | Pain In The A** |
| 01:04.59 | sgeigerbot | GregorR: but qemu is pretty easy to set up, eh? |
| 01:05.00 | Epilog | jeanpoldeux: before I left hone I had 1.1 GB free, now 80k |
| 01:05.11 | Epilog | jeanpoldeux: what could be the problem? |
| 01:05.14 | Blissex|watch | jivera: unfortunately, for historical reasons and general lack of bandwidth, things like the Linux printing and sound subsystems are pretty appalingly overcomplex. |
| 01:05.17 | GregorR | sgeigerbot: Requires only a tiny amount of console skill, and it works *shrugs* |
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| 01:05.35 | GregorR | sgeigerbot: And it can run non-Linux OSes, as well :P |
| 01:05.47 | GregorR | sgeigerbot: So, does UML run on 2.6? |
| 01:05.58 | sgeigerbot | Epilog: are you running X on tha tcomputer? If so, try filelight. |
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| 01:06.09 | jivera | Blissex|watch: Yeah, it's understandable. I'm not bashing Debian or anything, I'm just interested in getting my printer working correctly again with as little effort as possible. |
| 01:06.57 | jeanpoldeux | Epilog: perhaps you made your /tmp/ full too, there are many possibilities. |
| 01:07.13 | sgeigerbot | GregorR: UML requires patches for each kernel, so you sometimes have to wait. I think it would work with 2.6...but you always have to check, which is a PITA. |
| 01:07.24 | akriel | hmm there not a qemu deb pkg yet :/ |
| 01:07.39 | sgeigerbot | grepper: That it runs non-linux OSes is a nice feature. How bad is the performance? |
| 01:07.41 | GregorR | Heheh :) |
| 01:07.46 | Epilog | jeanpoldeux: /tmp only has 50m |
| 01:08.08 | sgeigerbot | GregorR: ^^^ |
| 01:08.13 | jbr | akriel: apt-cache show says there is (in sarge) |
| 01:08.14 | Epilog | sgeigerbot: right now that is kinda impossible |
| 01:08.21 | akriel | hmmm |
| 01:08.32 | akriel | im running testing / thats sarge right? |
| 01:08.33 | Epilog | sgeigerbot: here I only have a win98 |
| 01:08.34 | jeanpoldeux | Epilog: I don't want to scare you, but I had this on a fucked partition. Try to fsck /dev/hd* |
| 01:08.48 | sgeigerbot | Epilog: try this: sudo find / -size +3000k -print0 | xargs -0 ls -ls | sort -rn > /tmp/3+_mb_files_`/bin/date +%m_%d_%Y_%a_%I_%M_%p` |
| 01:08.52 | akriel | ops apt-get update |
| 01:08.54 | akriel | :D |
| 01:09.11 | sgeigerbot | Epilog: here are some other suggestions: apt-get clean |
| 01:09.13 | sgeigerbot | deborphan | xargs apt-get -s -y remove |
| 01:09.13 | sgeigerbot | COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l |grep ^rc |awk '{print $2} ' | xargs dpkg -P |
| 01:09.13 | sgeigerbot | localepurge |
| 01:09.14 | sgeigerbot | debfoster |
| 01:09.14 | sgeigerbot | cruft |
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| 01:09.32 | sgeigerbot | Epilog: also try cruft. |
| 01:09.32 | jeanpoldeux | sgeigerbot !!! |
| 01:09.41 | sgeigerbot | jeanpoldeux: yeah, I slipped. |
| 01:09.42 | deadcat | sgeigerbot: nice tips... |
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| 01:09.55 | jeanpoldeux | how to be kicked :)) |
| 01:09.57 | Epilog | sgeigerbot: what do I need to get a vnc of my desktop? |
| 01:10.02 | sgeigerbot | deadcat: If have more if necessary. |
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| 01:10.25 | sgeigerbot | Epilog: fix that disk space issue now. |
| 01:10.28 | deadcat | sgeigerbot: which is better? debfoster or cruft? i only tried debfoster |
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| 01:10.33 | sgeigerbot | Epilog: worry about vnc later. |
| 01:10.55 | Epilog | sgeigerbot: yep because I can't install any new pakcge, no disk space... |
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| 01:11.18 | jeanpoldeux | Epilog: try first what sgeigerbot said. |
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| 01:11.35 | k-man | Epilog, as far as i know, under X, you can't get a vnc of your existing desktop, you can only get another desktop with vnc (i could be wrong though) |
| 01:11.38 | sgeigerbot | deadcat: *shrugs* Also there's deborphan. I don't use these often enough to have much of an opinion. I just make sure I don't forget them just in case I need them. |
| 01:11.39 | Epilog | jeanpoldeux: already doing that. waiting for the first one to finnish |
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| 01:11.59 | deadcat | sgeigerbot: cool |
| 01:12.03 | sgeigerbot | Epilog: I *hope* you saw everything I said.. I offered quite a few suggestions. |
| 01:12.37 | Epilog | sgeigerbot: yep... Thanks !!! doing them using ssh |
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| 01:13.21 | geppel | I'm running apache right now and I want to be able to redirect a user if they navigate to a certain directory to a completely different website but mask the URL on their web browser so they don't know they even switched sites (I have a web application that runs on a hosted server that I can't run on my personal WWW server). How would I start such a task? |
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| 01:13.34 | sgeigerbot | Epilog: Anyway, if you get to the end of your rope, you might find that rebooting temporarily fixes the problem. That is, if there are no files on the filesystem that are taking up that space, you might find that rebooting will give you a lot of free space again. |
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| 01:13.55 | cievo | all...hello |
| 01:13.56 | sgeigerbot | Epilog: If so, that's a problem caused by the kernel being unable to free the space again. |
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| 01:14.14 | Epilog | sgeigerbot: and if that doesn't work I'll have to take a 3hours trip to switch the pc :) |
| 01:14.25 | jeanpoldeux | sgeigerbot: it's true. I had that because a /dev/ or a /proc/ file was about 1GB big, and unremovable. |
| 01:14.32 | sgeigerbot | Epilog: well, then get cracking! |
| 01:14.40 | Epilog | sgeigerbot: its up for 45 days |
| 01:14.59 | cievo | and what's a problem !? |
| 01:15.07 | Epilog | sort: write failed: -: No space left on device |
| 01:15.09 | sgeigerbot | Epilog: so? |
| 01:15.11 | Epilog | :) |
| 01:15.19 | Epilog | moving one more film |
| 01:15.21 | sgeigerbot | Epilog: why haven't you taken my advice? |
| 01:15.22 | andres | can anyone help me to edit the sources.list file with vi please? |
| 01:15.29 | jeanpoldeux | Epilog: reboot. |
| 01:15.33 | deadcat | andres: if you dont know vi use nano |
| 01:15.45 | Epilog | sgeigerbot: I am... |
| 01:15.47 | GregorR | akriel: Still need that pack? |
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| 01:15.53 | GregorR | akriel: Still need that pack (of QEmu)? |
| 01:15.57 | akriel | nope thanks |
| 01:15.58 | akriel | :D |
| 01:16.00 | akriel | got it :D |
| 01:16.00 | cievo | all...my keyboard doesn't react for login on 2.6.7. kernel, does anyone has any idea why ?! (I think everything is setted up correctly) |
| 01:16.04 | Epilog | sgeigerbot: I mean I'm doing sudo ... |
| 01:16.04 | GregorR | Oki |
| 01:16.18 | andres | what makes u think i know nano i dont know shit im not worthy im not worthy |
| 01:16.39 | deadcat | andres: FUCK. nano is like notepad. but if you want i can help you vi |
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| 01:16.54 | jeanpoldeux | andres: no panic man, nano is just really simple. vi needs doc. |
| 01:16.55 | jrr | notepad rocks. |
| 01:16.59 | andres | can we go to the flood room? |
| 01:17.20 | deadcat | andres: i am there. you in? |
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| 01:17.34 | jeanpoldeux | deadcat: well have phun ;) |
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| 01:19.51 | sgeigerbot | GregorR: any tips for a first-time qemu user? |
| 01:20.46 | ozzonn | anyone can help me with a cdrtbt ? |
| 01:21.04 | jeanpoldeux | ozzonn: what is that ? |
| 01:21.11 | GregorR | sgeigerbot: The docs for QEMU are actually pretty nice. I'm creating a simple Xdialog-based GUI as well. |
| 01:21.16 | sgeigerbot | ozzonn: CD root boot? |
| 01:21.21 | ozzonn | also called livecd or bootcd |
| 01:21.27 | ozzonn | yes sgeigerbot |
| 01:21.38 | cievo | deadcat: why doesn't dpkg-reconfigure work ?! :) |
| 01:21.40 | hooya | hi folks, i'm trying to install apache on a machine that's going to handle high traffic. and i need to set MaxClients to more than 512. i've tried compiling it with debian/rules but i got a package with a lower version and dont' know how that would work out with apt-get update/upgrade. is there anything in woody-proposed or something .. with a high HARD_SERVER_LIMIT? |
| 01:21.47 | sgeigerbot | ozzonn: what's the question? No promises as to whether I can help. |
| 01:21.48 | cievo | deadcat: I ment dpkg0reconfigure apt |
| 01:21.50 | deadcat | cievo: why not just apt-setup ? |
| 01:21.58 | cievo | deadcat: shit, you know what I mean :) |
| 01:22.46 | pingouin | anyone have ever tried or know what technologie (bluetooth ? Ir, other that i dont know) work best for Audio headphone cordless ? |
| 01:22.54 | ozzonn | sgeigerbot, with root=/dev/ram0 it panic (no init found) |
| 01:23.02 | ozzonn | and the initrd is ok |
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| 01:23.11 | cievo | deadcat: never heard of that.... |
| 01:23.23 | deadcat | cievo: hear od what? |
| 01:23.36 | sgeigerbot | ozzonn: which package are you using to make the CD bootable? |
| 01:23.41 | cievo | deadcat: apt-setup |
| 01:23.47 | deadcat | cievo: o |
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| 01:24.09 | ozzonn | sgeigerbot, package ? |
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| 01:24.30 | cievo | deadcat: ? |
| 01:24.41 | sgeigerbot | ozzonn: isolinux is what knoppix uses... I don't know the details of what it does...but I'd think you'd want to use something like that. |
| 01:24.48 | dessaix | anyone have any experience installing e1000 NIC drivers on the latest debian ? |
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| 01:25.04 | sgeigerbot | dessaix: what's the question. (Btw, no I dont'.) |
| 01:25.09 | ozzonn | sgeigerbot, yes i use isolinux |
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| 01:25.59 | ozzonn | sgeigerbot, it's not a bootloader problem lol, the kernel runs, the initrd is loaded AND MOUNTED... |
| 01:26.15 | dessaix | sgeigerbot: theresno module for the e1000, how can i install the driver if i downlaod from the net and burn it to a CD ? |
| 01:26.17 | cievo | deadcat: if you do dpkg-reconfigure apt...does do anythign on your machine ? it doesn't care on mine :) |
| 01:26.21 | sgeigerbot | ozzonn: this might help: http://www.babytux.org/articles/howto/how2livecd.php |
| 01:26.31 | andres | im glad to anounce i was able to edit the sources.list files and in consequence intall lame thanks to all for your patience |
| 01:26.39 | deadcat | cievo: im not gonna do that. (= |
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| 01:27.27 | Gil64 | test |
| 01:27.31 | ozzonn | sgeigerbot, i will try this, thx |
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| 01:27.50 | cievo | deadcat: !? it should bring you that men think or configuration file...nothign else :) |
| 01:27.51 | sgeigerbot | ozzonn: so, what's the problem if the initrd is okay and the kernel loads? |
| 01:27.56 | ninja_ | !congratulate andres |
| 01:27.57 | dpkg | huzzah andres, you did it! |
| 01:28.12 | ozzonn | sgeigerbot, no init found |
| 01:28.26 | ozzonn | and i got init, inittab and /bin/sh |
| 01:29.00 | andres | yeah not so fast still the mp3 option in sound juicer is grayed out |
| 01:29.08 | cievo | all...how do I change from file editing instalation to menu ones ? |
| 01:29.30 | Gil64 | can anyone help me configuring an ethernet card? |
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| 01:29.43 | cievo | Gil64: and what's apoblem ?! |
| 01:29.46 | deadcat | Gil64: ask the q |
| 01:29.55 | Gil64 | sorry |
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| 01:30.12 | cievo | Gil64: ? :) and what's your problem...can't make it working ?! |
| 01:30.18 | t-jack | Hey now! I got music! |
| 01:30.40 | Gil64 | it's an onboard Net card, how do I configure it as 'eth0' and ensure it's usable? |
| 01:31.00 | deadcat | Gil64: does ifconfig -a show anything? |
| 01:31.14 | Gil64 | deadcat:lo |
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| 01:31.18 | ninja_ | !dance |
| 01:31.23 | deadcat | Gil64: you're fucked. |
| 01:31.27 | sgeigerbot | Gil64: are you ethernet card drivers loaded? |
| 01:31.29 | Gil64 | deadcat up running loopback |
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| 01:31.40 | samuel | hello all |
| 01:31.41 | deadcat | Gil64: tell me what chipset it is? |
| 01:32.05 | Gil64 | sgeigerbot:i've got it compiled into kernel. |
| 01:32.13 | cievo | Gil64: did you compile kernel with support of that card or made module for it ?! |
| 01:32.13 | sgeigerbot | ozzonn: I'm a little fuzzy on how init gets loaded. In knoppix, the initrd has a symlink to the init on the hard drive. I'm not sure if you'd need to do it that way, though. |
| 01:32.17 | Gil64 | deadcat:NForce2 :( |
| 01:32.19 | samuel | anyone know what apps there is to change date/time from the gnome date/time applett??? |
| 01:32.32 | deadcat | samuel: date |
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| 01:32.52 | sgeigerbot | samuel: Isn't there a little applet in gnome? |
| 01:32.57 | Gil64 | cievo:into the kernel |
| 01:33.05 | samuel | deadcat, no, i mean when you click on the applet |
| 01:33.19 | cievo | Gil64: what about ls -v ? does it sees it ? paste output into #flood |
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| 01:33.24 | ninja_ | samuel: gnome-system-tools or somesuch. not recommended. setting up ntp is recommended |
| 01:33.25 | deadcat | samuel: boy. try #debian-gnome |
| 01:33.43 | cievo | !tell Fede79 about root |
| 01:33.46 | samuel | sgeigerbot, yes, but it tells me "failed to locate program to adjust date time, perhaps none is installed?" |
| 01:33.53 | Gil64 | cievo:I'm not in linux currently |
| 01:34.04 | sgeigerbot | samuel: right: this is not Windows. Linux systems can reset their clocks automatically if you use ntpdate. |
| 01:34.07 | ozzonn | sgeigerbot, i looked at this, the kernel tries to run /linuxrc, if none then /sbin/init, and /bin/sh | you mean /initrd ? |
| 01:34.19 | cievo | Gil64: oki...when you will be than go to ls -v and ckeck it |
| 01:34.40 | samuel | sgeigerbot, i know, but i disabled that because it keeps screwing up with the windows time |
| 01:34.47 | Gil64 | cievo:lsmod shows something like "pci interface nvidia corporation: unknown device" |
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| 01:35.10 | cievo | Gil64: and when you do ifconfig -a it doesn't see it ? |
| 01:35.33 | Gil64 | cievo: it says eth0:unknown |
| 01:35.39 | sgeigerbot | samuel: It's got to be a matter of time zones. I would resolve that problem rather than to solve a different one. |
| 01:35.51 | cievo | Gil64: what about dmesg | grep eth ? |
| 01:35.55 | sgeigerbot | samuel: or use AboutTime on Windows startup to fix windows. |
| 01:36.14 | ninja_ | !fuck windows time |
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| 01:36.33 | t-jack | Des Moines hawks a hairball! |
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| 01:36.47 | MerlinCorey | hmmm... |
| 01:36.48 | samuel | sgeigerbot, AboutTime??? |
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| 01:36.55 | Gil64 | cievo:I'll do that. what can I see on screen? |
| 01:36.55 | sgeigerbot | !fuck windows, then making love to Linux |
| 01:37.14 | t-jack | !jiggysmite Des Moines |
| 01:37.21 | sgeigerbot | samuel: have you heard of google? |
| 01:37.24 | MerlinCorey | hey, what's the name of the package with all the different quote databases... the insulting ones are the ones most people know... |
| 01:37.26 | MerlinCorey | ? |
| 01:37.32 | cievo | Gil64: if you do dmesg it will retype your login stuff...and grep will chose only lines with 'eth' sting in it |
| 01:37.36 | deadcat | MerlinCorey: fortune |
| 01:37.39 | MerlinCorey | yes! |
| 01:37.40 | t-jack | !penixsmite Des Moines |
| 01:37.42 | MerlinCorey | thank you deadcat :) |
| 01:37.43 | cievo | sgeigerbot: :) |
| 01:38.23 | t-jack | !dance with Des Moines |
| 01:38.28 | andres | i need to save my alsa settings so next reboot i dont have to tweak it again? |
| 01:38.31 | Gil64 | cievo:I did go through dmesg and I don't remember anything telling about "eth" |
| 01:38.45 | idnar | what happened to penixsmite? |
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| 01:38.57 | cievo | Gil64: than you did NOT compile right module or you just did NOT compile it at all :) |
| 01:39.00 | andres | i was doing alsactl store |
| 01:39.07 | andres | but that is not working |
| 01:39.31 | andres | as soon as i reboot i have to tewak the alsa settings back again |
| 01:39.33 | cievo | Gil64: it should said something like: eth0: NatSemi DP8381[56] at 0xdd86d000, 00:0b:cd:53:a7:f6, IRQ 11. |
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| 01:40.03 | cievo | Gil64: other think you can do is to compile it as an module and then try to load module and see what the FUCK is goin' on :) |
| 01:40.03 | t-jack | idnar: phooey... spambot's blocked from us peasants. |
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| 01:40.16 | BlackJudas | Where do I see what dpkg has for "bits of info"? |
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| 01:40.30 | Gil64 | cievo:I'll check it again, and will be back, thanks |
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| 01:40.48 | cievo | BlackJudas: WHAT ? |
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| 01:40.53 | sgeigerbot | BlackJudas: Make your question a little more specific, and perhaps then some of the people here will answer. |
| 01:40.59 | andres | specially the settings in.......SB live analog/digital output jack i wanted off all the time when i reboot is back on |
| 01:41.07 | t-jack | !hairball on Des Moines |
| 01:41.09 | sgeigerbot | BlackJudas: Debian Package Management Info: http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/apt-get-intro.html or http://sgeiger.mine.nu/docs/pkgmgmt.php or (tarzeau's) http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ or (thanks za) apt-get install apt-howto-en or (if you forget) /msg apt mgmt or /msg apt pkgmgmt |
| 01:41.19 | BlackJudas | sgeigerbot, !tell whomever about x where do I find the list of x's? |
| 01:41.21 | t-jack | !test |
| 01:41.21 | dpkg | No, t-jack, you're not online any more. |
| 01:41.24 | cc | !help |
| 01:41.31 | ninja_ | BlackJudas: factoids? /msg dpkg list(keys|values) or help... |
| 01:41.32 | BlackJudas | Sorry I meant the bot. |
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| 01:41.40 | wind2 | hi there |
| 01:41.41 | BlackJudas | ninja_, yeah factoids :P |
| 01:41.49 | BlackJudas | ninja_, thx. |
| 01:41.53 | andres | i need to save my alsa settings so next reboot i dont have to tweak it again? |
| 01:41.57 | scone | a few days ago a dist-upgrade broke the Alt+FN functionality of fluxbox to skip around workspaces... anyone know what broke it? |
| 01:41.59 | ninja_ | YW |
| 01:42.13 | cc | where can i find glibc-dev |
| 01:42.16 | cievo | andres: save it than and don't bother :) |
| 01:42.17 | cc | where can i find glibc-dev? |
| 01:42.24 | andres | how? |
| 01:42.25 | wind2 | find / -type d <<< this will print dirs twice or more... how can I display dirs only once ? |
| 01:42.50 | De_Mon | wind2 are you sure? |
| 01:43.19 | deadcat | wind2: only prints once for us. |
| 01:43.35 | iLLPoTaTo | I'm trying to set up gdm on my system, but whenever it runs, the screen changes to black and an error message comes up: "process set to nice value 0 instead of -10 as requested." I have an nVidia TNT2 card on a p3 866. It also says, "fatal server error: no screens found." Any suggestions? |
| 01:43.40 | cievo | andres: find 'em and save 'em |
| 01:44.01 | De_Mon | iLLPoTaTo and you're using which video module? |
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| 01:44.09 | sgeigerbot | wind2: why twice? that sounds odd. If necessary, you could pipe to uniq...but that's just a hack |
| 01:44.15 | iLLPoTaTo | De_Mon, i' |
| 01:44.19 | iLLPoTaTo | m not quite sur |
| 01:44.22 | iLLPoTaTo | e |
| 01:44.50 | sgeigerbot | BlackJudas: dpkg's factoids are at http://rzlab.ucr.edu/~dpkg/ |
| 01:45.10 | wind2 | if I use find -type d alone -- it will print only once every dir --- if I use it with printf --- it will print it twice or more... dunno why |
| 01:45.20 | iLLPoTaTo | De_Mon: what do you mean by video module? |
| 01:45.34 | deadcat | wind2: then dont use it with printf. |
| 01:45.45 | deadcat | wind2: you didnt say use printf at first. what the fuck. |
| 01:45.53 | wind2 | sorry |
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| 01:46.15 | cievo | deadcat: ;) |
| 01:46.15 | De_Mon | iLLPoTaTo your Xserver uses modules(drivers) specific to the video card to run the display. |
| 01:46.28 | iLLPoTaTo | De_Mon: nv |
| 01:46.36 | De_Mon | iLLPoTaTo using the wrong one would cause such an error (no screens found is about as generic as it gets btw) |
| 01:46.52 | Cosmo` | this is the most frustrating thing i've ever had to do under Linux ... setting up Samba |
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| 01:47.12 | De_Mon | Cosmo` start simple |
| 01:47.20 | cievo | Cosmo`: ? :) |
| 01:47.41 | cievo | Covener: just to share files ?! |
| 01:47.42 | De_Mon | iLLPoTaTo I'm not helping with the problem, just getting the right info in the question |
| 01:47.44 | Cosmo` | i had it working earlier, yet it's just constantly asking me for usernames and passwords now |
| 01:47.56 | iLLPoTaTo | De_Mon: i didn't think I was using the wrong one...it said that nv was for the TNT2 chip |
| 01:47.56 | Cosmo` | yeah, just to let me read and write to my home directory |
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| 01:47.59 | cc | is there somebody know where to get the deb package of glibc and glibc-dev? SOS,i am new here |
| 01:47.59 | iLLPoTaTo | oops, soryr |
| 01:48.12 | cievo | Cosmo`: come to #flood channel, ok |
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| 01:48.26 | cc | is there somebody know where to get the deb package of glibc and glibc-dev? SOS,i am new here |
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| 01:48.50 | De_Mon | iLLPoTaTo let the folks who know how to fix it decide whats important or not. (there are actually several different drivers out there) |
| 01:48.58 | BlackJudas | sgeigerbot, thank you! |
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| 01:49.10 | De_Mon | or, you could have been using the wrong one to start with :) |
| 01:49.18 | Zetabyte | step 1: ask question in the appropriate channel.... step 2: wait 20-30 minutes, get no response..... step 3: ask in #debian, where people actually know stuff =) |
| 01:49.30 | cc | is there anybody know where to get the deb package of glibc and glibc-dev? SOS,i am new here |
| 01:49.31 | Zetabyte | cc - do you have apt-get set up to use online sources? |
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| 01:50.36 | giuppi | is there a way to pass password to ssh with a script? (without using keys i mean) |
| 01:50.57 | Gil64 | well, dmesg|grep eth returned nothing |
| 01:51.45 | cc | no , i can not reach the internet because my debian can not recoggnize the net card |
| 01:52.10 | Zetabyte | ack - ok, you need to get the install CDs then - at least CD 1, and possibly cd 2 |
| 01:52.33 | Zetabyte | once you get what is needed installed for making your network ...work... you can change apt to use the net instead of CDs |
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| 01:52.51 | Zetabyte | what debian are you running, woody, sarge, sid? |
| 01:52.51 | Gil64 | cc:what network card do you have? |
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| 01:53.32 | glasserc | xmms-jack crashes. Is there anything I should be doing to try and pinpoint why? |
| 01:53.47 | Zetabyte | glasserc: are you using ALSA or OSS? |
| 01:53.51 | glasserc | ALSA |
| 01:53.54 | cc | i am running the sarge |
| 01:53.56 | Zetabyte | try OSS =) |
| 01:54.02 | glasserc | Good idea, thanks |
| 01:54.07 | Zetabyte | np =) |
| 01:54.17 | Zetabyte | cc : how about the nic question? |
| 01:54.53 | cc | the network card is 3com 3c920 (3c905c compatible).sorry , my english is poor =) |
| 01:54.56 | Epilog | sgeigerbot: all done |
| 01:55.07 | Epilog | sgeigerbot: just waiting for cruft to finnish |
| 01:55.09 | Zetabyte | no problem |
| 01:55.13 | Zetabyte | speak spanish? |
| 01:56.41 | sgeigerbot | GregorR: where did you get a Debian image? |
| 01:56.42 | Zetabyte | the 3c905 series should have module-support in generic kernels 2.4 and later, possibly earlier too - it's a very popular card (i have 5, lol) |
| 01:56.43 | cc | when i setup the base system, the debian said :no network device detected |
| 01:57.03 | sgeigerbot | Epilog: did you find out where all your space went? |
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| 01:57.12 | Epilog | sgeigerbot: nope |
| 01:57.21 | De_Mon | why does the cc use the so much? |
| 01:57.24 | sgeigerbot | Epilog: did you run the long command I gave you? |
| 01:57.25 | vchrizz | could someone help me? - http://vchrizz.onetrix.net/drei/template.php - if i click on on of these links, the browser should download the file, not display its content... what do i have wrong in the config? |
| 01:57.26 | Zetabyte | that's weird - are you sure the card is working? |
| 01:57.35 | Epilog | sgeigerbot: just finish dl'ing the sudo output |
| 01:57.41 | Epilog | will take a look with vim |
| 01:57.46 | SharkY | hi |
| 01:57.57 | Zetabyte | vchrizz: you need to configure the server to process php - either you don't have a php module installed or you don't have the mimetype configured right |
| 01:57.58 | sgeigerbot | Epilog: head <file> |
| 01:58.43 | Gil64 | cc:doesn' your kernel support this card? |
| 01:58.52 | vchrizz | Zetabyte: php is configured, else it wouldnt parse the php file... i got the default mime types ... i didnt change them ... |
| 01:59.03 | Epilog | sgeigerbot: 2162228 -rw------- 1 duckman users 2213675766 2004-08-02 02:07 /home/duckman/.xsession-errors |
| 01:59.07 | Zetabyte | oh, it's not hte php file, you mean, it's the others... |
| 01:59.09 | Epilog | lucky winner |
| 01:59.16 | cc | i am Chinese =) . i select the kernel 2.6.5 when i setup the base system |
| 01:59.17 | Zetabyte | what filetype is a .jad? |
| 01:59.25 | vchrizz | java something |
| 01:59.38 | De_Mon | cc ahsoo |
| 01:59.44 | Epilog | sgeigerbot: now find out why... |
| 01:59.46 | vchrizz | <object declare="declare" id="jBrowser" |
| 01:59.47 | vchrizz | data="http://vchrizz.onetrix.net/drei/download/jad/jBrowser.jad" |
| 01:59.47 | vchrizz | type="text/vnd.sun.j2me.app-descriptor"></object> |
| 01:59.56 | Zetabyte | in the httpd.conf file, i think, there is some sort of mime type listing |
| 02:00.01 | sgeigerbot | Epilog: looks to me as if you need to delete that file...and figure out what's causing so many errors. |
| 02:00.04 | vchrizz | yup |
| 02:00.05 | Zetabyte | you might need to add it there. |
| 02:00.24 | gothtec | "Your servers need DOWNTIME! When else are you going to upgrade components, putting in new discs and have a relaxed coffee break, knowing nothing else will go wrong? That's why I recommend Microsoft Windows, with the new random downtime feature, the server automatically calculates the Downtime Coefficient (TM) and will hard shutdown the computer when a downtime is required." |
| 02:00.31 | sgeigerbot | Epilog: don't lose the info I gave you. That can come in very handy. |
| 02:00.32 | gothtec | (yeah, a windows machine just went down) |
| 02:00.42 | Zetabyte | hahaha |
| 02:00.52 | Epilog | sgeigerbot: already in my quick find notes... :D |
| 02:00.55 | cc | Gil64, it seems that it can not detect the card at all... |
| 02:00.57 | greycat | Every time Windows crashes, a penguin gets his wings. |
| 02:01.08 | sgeigerbot | Epilog: what space you gained from cruft is going to be insignificant to what you get from dealing with that problem. |
| 02:01.18 | vchrizz | Zetabyte: but i dont think lycos did that change too... http://mitglied.lycos.de/robiwan2k4/ here it does work ... |
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| 02:01.59 | Zetabyte | if it's not a mime-type issue, i dunno =/ neeext |
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| 02:02.11 | cc | Zetabyte , should i recompile the kernel? may it work? |
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| 02:02.33 | Epilog | sgeigerbot: a lot of -- X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9 |
| 02:02.44 | sgeigerbot | dessaix: are you compiling your own kernel? usually you can create an e1000 module that way. |
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| 02:03.15 | Gil64 | cc:I saw an option to enable support for 3c905 card in menuconfig |
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| 02:03.31 | Zetabyte | yeh, it should be in the generic kernel, but it's definitly an option too |
| 02:03.32 | Epilog | sgeigerbot: strange |
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| 02:03.54 | Zetabyte | i know it's in the generic 2.6.6 that comes on the sarge netinst CD, as i'm using it now with that card |
| 02:03.56 | Epilog | sgeigerbot: I removed the file and I only got +100M free |
| 02:04.06 | vchrizz | could someone help me? i want the jad file to be downloadable on my own webserver on http://vchrizz.onetrix.net/drei/ - but its not working - on lycos it does work http://mitglied.lycos.de/robiwan2k4/ - can somebody tell me why? |
| 02:04.11 | sgeigerbot | Epilog: well, I would shut down X, remove the file, start X...and then keep an eye on the size of that file. |
| 02:04.27 | Epilog | sgeigerbot: file descriptors? |
| 02:04.29 | sgeigerbot | Epilog: did you shut down X first? |
| 02:04.36 | Epilog | sgeigerbot: nope |
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| 02:04.48 | Epilog | sgeigerbot: is just that I can't execute after |
| 02:04.48 | sgeigerbot | Epilog: You might have to reboot to get that space back. |
| 02:04.57 | Epilog | at least start my session |
| 02:05.11 | kingsley | vchrizz: What's a "jad" file? |
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| 02:05.18 | sgeigerbot | Epilog: not sure. |
| 02:05.21 | Zetabyte | ok, my turn to ask a question =) i'm using CVS and CVSD and i have a repository I want to totally erase, and create a new (different) one of the same name - does anyone know how to remove or empty a cvs repository? or do i have to fiddle with the repositry files manually? i have already read the docs to no avail =( |
| 02:05.29 | sgeigerbot | Epilog: I think you have to reboot. |
| 02:05.41 | vchrizz | kingsley: some sort of java application |
| 02:05.45 | Epilog | sgeigerbot: ok, now that I think I know the problem, how do I access my X session |
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| 02:06.09 | sgeigerbot | Epilog: have you ever tunneled X with ssh? |
| 02:06.28 | greycat | is this a geek purity test/ |
| 02:06.41 | Epilog | sgeigerbot: yes but I don't have linux/X here, win98 only |
| 02:06.52 | Epilog | and in dialup I can't get the cygwin/X |
| 02:07.04 | sgeigerbot | greycat: sorta...if you are geeky enough, you win the prize of getting the job done. |
| 02:07.18 | t-jack | Anyone here have trouble recently with ALSA? |
| 02:07.26 | sgeigerbot | Epilog: why the fuck do you need X anyway? |
| 02:07.39 | Epilog | sgeigerbot: ? |
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| 02:07.58 | sgeigerbot | Epilog: you *could* use a LiveCD to boot from if you need X locally. I don't understand why you would need that, though. |
| 02:08.08 | kingsley | vchrizz: How about finding a web page (with google, I suppose) that already allows you to download a file, and viewing its html with your web browser's "view-> view source" option. You could use the same technique to make your file downloadable. |
| 02:08.18 | cc | thanks , i will try again =) |
| 02:08.29 | Epilog | sgeigerbot: so what do I need to get the desktop? |
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| 02:08.47 | t-jack | Epilog: Anything you can do in X, console does it better. Just not as prettily. |
| 02:09.06 | vchrizz | kingsley: thats what im doing! http://mitglied.lycos.de/robiwan2k4/ IS WORKING! but on mine not: http://vchrizz.onetrix.net/drei/ |
| 02:09.16 | Epilog | t-jack: yes but I would like to access my remote desktop |
| 02:09.17 | kingsley | t-jack: Have you tried searching google's web and usenet archives for the error ALSA is reporting? |
| 02:09.48 | kingsley | vchrizz: What happens with yours? |
| 02:09.55 | t-jack | Epilog: There's a point... ;) |
| 02:10.24 | agney | is there a way to remove grub help on the initial screen ? |
| 02:10.25 | robrock | whats the stabel version of debain ? |
| 02:10.28 | vchrizz | try it :) - on my webserver, when i click on it, the description of the file is displayed |
| 02:10.34 | vchrizz | @kingsley |
| 02:10.43 | robrock | or better yet is thier a way to get a iso or install testing? |
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| 02:11.17 | t-jack | kingsley: Sometimes people get so caught up in trying to simulate face-to-face encounters they miss the most obvious, and successful, sources of help. |
| 02:11.20 | cafuego | robrock: There's a set of testing netinst ISOs yes. |
| 02:11.26 | cafuego | robrock: www.debian.org |
| 02:11.30 | ninja_ | !tell robrock about d-i |
| 02:11.54 | infinity005 | how can i identify console ssh traffic vs. scp/rsync traffic for traffic control? |
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| 02:12.20 | kingsley | vchrizz: What's your web server's URL? |
| 02:12.26 | greycat | infinity005: run them on different ports |
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| 02:12.32 | SuperPhly | when i'm trying to compile dmx, it gives me an error saying it can't find stdio.h |
| 02:12.42 | vchrizz | kingsley: http://vchrizz.onetrix.net/ |
| 02:12.43 | SuperPhly | what pkg would that file be in? |
| 02:12.43 | greycat | !b-e SuperPhly |
| 02:12.43 | dpkg | SuperPhly: Sounds like you need to install build-essential. |
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| 02:13.11 | infinity005 | greycat: ouch. i'm thinking there should be different tos flags or something. is ssh that smart? |
| 02:13.18 | SuperPhly | thanks |
| 02:13.19 | SuperPhly | :) |
| 02:13.27 | infinity005 | greycat: or maybe packet size? |
| 02:13.30 | gaasfet | i need libmagick6 but "testing" only shows libmagick5 , libmagick6 is available under "unstable"??? |
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| 02:13.46 | kingsley | vchrizz: I see no "jad" file at http://vchrizz.onetrix.net/ |
| 02:13.48 | SuperPhly | why is it installing kernel-headers-2.5.999? |
| 02:13.54 | greycat | jesus. |
| 02:13.59 | t-jack | SuperPhly: Peoples comes on wid the weerdist names... but cute... |
| 02:14.00 | gaasfet | amen |
| 02:14.02 | greycat | !linux-kernel-headers |
| 02:14.02 | dpkg | A new (Nov. 2003) package in sid. It was split apart from libc6-dev. You've ALWAYS had these kernel headers on your system; you just never bothered to notice. The "kernel-headers-*" package that matches your running kernel is used to build kernel modules. The "linux-kernel-headers" are used when compiling userspace programs. It's not a bug. You *DO* need them. Don't try to delete them. Ask me about "kernel headers" too. |
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| 02:14.15 | SuperPhly | t-jack: huh? |
| 02:14.23 | klipper | hey all, i need to get my sound working! |
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| 02:14.31 | t-jack | SuperPhly: uh... nothing |
| 02:14.33 | vchrizz | kingsley: http://vchrizz.onetrix.net/drei/download/jad/jBrowser.jad |
| 02:14.47 | greycat | SuperPhly: t-jack thinks he's clever. |
| 02:14.48 | lyosha | Hello. I'm looking for a user-level tool to redirect UDP packets from one port to another. Any advice? |
| 02:14.50 | SuperPhly | so just because it's 2.5.999 just install them? |
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| 02:14.53 | dumbintel | lets say i do egrep 'word1|word2|word3' *.fileType how can I append a newline after each file is tried out? |
| 02:15.09 | greycat | dumbintel: ... | tr ' ' \\n |
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| 02:15.12 | klipper | im not able to hear sound, what are some of the places i could be having this problem? |
| 02:15.19 | t-jack | greycat: Oh I -know- I'm clever, just a bit muddled. |
| 02:15.21 | klipper | its not in the speaker |
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| 02:15.30 | mwilson | SuperPhly: No, just install them because it's (a) supposed to be that way, (b) been that way for a LONG time now. |
| 02:15.42 | cc | !libc6-dev |
| 02:15.43 | greycat | and read what the bot said. |
| 02:15.55 | mboso | i have a weird problem. when i look in my /cdrom and /cdrom0 directories, they both have an infinite level of symbolic links pointing back to /cdrom0 |
| 02:16.01 | ninja_ | my mummy says i'm clever and her special soldier. |
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| 02:16.17 | Zetabyte | mboso, i don't think that's a problem |
| 02:16.20 | mboso | I think some debian package that handling the symbolic links its going crazy |
| 02:16.21 | cc | !glibc |
| 02:16.21 | dpkg | i heard glibc is at http://www.imaxx.net/~thrytis/glibc/index.old.html. GNU libc, also known as libc6 in the Linux universe. |
| 02:16.35 | greycat | !b-e cc |
| 02:16.36 | dpkg | cc: Sounds like you need to install build-essential. |
| 02:16.43 | mboso | Zetabyte : but i can't seem to load a music CD from XMMS anymore. |
| 02:16.52 | Zetabyte | have you mounted it? |
| 02:16.59 | mboso | no |
| 02:17.03 | greycat | !cluebat Zetabyte |
| 02:17.07 | mboso | don't think you can mount a music Cd |
| 02:17.08 | cc | !linux-kernel-headers |
| 02:17.08 | dpkg | A new (Nov. 2003) package in sid. It was split apart from libc6-dev. You've ALWAYS had these kernel headers on your system; you just never bothered to notice. The "kernel-headers-*" package that matches your running kernel is used to build kernel modules. The "linux-kernel-headers" are used when compiling userspace programs. It's not a bug. You *DO* need them. Don't try to delete them. Ask me about "kernel headers" too. |
| 02:17.30 | SuperPhly | you don't mount music cd's |
| 02:17.36 | Zetabyte | oh, then my bad. /e earned the cluebat |
| 02:18.07 | Supaplex | well, if you do, it'd be painfull. It's not recommended. |
| 02:18.10 | Supaplex | !sex |
| 02:18.10 | dpkg | from memory, sex is updatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; apt-get install condom; mount; fsck; gasp; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; apt-get remove --purge condom; make clean; sleep |
| 02:18.33 | mboso | I vaguely recall checking yes to allowwing some debian packge to handle my cdrom symbolic links, but i can't remember which one |
| 02:18.37 | sgeigerbot | Epilog: use SSH. YOU DO NOT NEED TO USE THE DESKTOP TO DO REMOTE ADMINISTRATION!! |
| 02:18.38 | Zetabyte | hahahaha |
| 02:18.55 | klipper | if i wanted to install debian on an older machine, would it be best to use an older kernel, or would it be better to use a new kernel, the machine is a toshiba laptop from 1995 |
| 02:19.06 | greycat | old laptops are usually trouble |
| 02:19.17 | greycat | use whatever works. |
| 02:19.25 | kingsley | vchrizz: Have you tried doing a "ls -l jBrowser.jad" to see if's really as big as you think it is? |
| 02:19.32 | Supaplex | klipper: try it and find out. I'd hope it'd work with what ever you toss at it. |
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| 02:19.53 | klipper | well, its from kernel 1.0's age |
| 02:20.14 | Zetabyte | hopefully a 2.4.25 kernel will have plenty of support =) i'd start there |
| 02:20.32 | klipper | i'd think that since it's hardware is obsolete, it wouldn't be supported in some of the newer kernels |
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| 02:22.32 | klipper | what is the config program i would run to enable that text thing? |
| 02:22.36 | cievo | !test |
| 02:22.36 | dpkg | Yes, cievo, you're still online. |
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| 02:22.47 | klipper | it says something about, if you have an lcd display, you should select yes |
| 02:23.08 | tony_wt | klipper: I have a gateway solo 9100 366 pentium running testing and a 2.6 kernel with out much problem. |
| 02:23.23 | sgeigerbot | GregorR: I'm a having a little trouble seting up the ethernet nic. did you have problems with that under qemu? |
| 02:23.35 | klipper | well, i think this pas a p1 |
| 02:23.40 | GregorR | sgeigerbot: I usually use --user-net , it's easier to get working. |
| 02:23.55 | sgeigerbot | grepper: I'm using the linux image I found on their main page. Where did you get your debian image? |
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| 02:24.36 | RoNiS | does anyone know how i can transfer the photos of a nokia 6225 to linux by a DKU-5 cable? |
| 02:25.00 | Gil64 | I've found a " |
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| 02:25.13 | klipper | its a t2130ct |
| 02:25.16 | sgeigerbot | RoNiS: does the camera use compact flash or other removalbe media? that's usually a rather easy way |
| 02:25.20 | kingsley | The U.S. Democrat party has a new slogan: "Love it or shove it" (Jay Leno). |
| 02:25.21 | klipper | toshiba satelite |
| 02:25.33 | sgeigerbot | RoNiS: gphoto might support your camera...I don't know. |
| 02:25.38 | RoNiS | sgeigerbot: no, it is a simple camera on a cell phone |
| 02:25.40 | klipper | the kernel of the time was 1.2 |
| 02:25.45 | Gil64 | I've found a "forcedeth.c" file, I need a "forthdeth.ko" module - ho do I compile it? |
| 02:25.47 | RoNiS | sgeigerbot: gphoto hasn't support for it |
| 02:25.50 | sgeigerbot | RoNiS: google. |
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| 02:26.19 | RoNiS | sgeigerbot: i'm working on it a week ago, in google all information haven't worked here |
| 02:26.51 | sgeigerbot | RoNiS: contact the kernel developers. ;-) |
| 02:27.04 | RoNiS | sgeigerbot: i think that it will be the only way :d |
| 02:27.27 | RoNiS | sgeigerbot: the USP support is working and it has a compatible module for the cable (pl2203) something like that |
| 02:27.43 | RoNiS | sgeigerbot: but i can't see my cel, i can't take the pictures from it |
| 02:27.53 | conceited | how do i use dpkg to install imblib for enlightenment? |
| 02:28.11 | RoNiS | conceited: have you already taken the debs.? |
| 02:28.24 | conceited | RoNiS, no |
| 02:28.30 | RoNiS | conceited: so use apt-get |
| 02:28.32 | conceited | RoNiS, how do i take the debs. ? |
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| 02:28.52 | conceited | RoNiS, i don't know how to use apt-get |
| 02:28.57 | RoNiS | conceited: search what do you want with apt-cache search, i.e., apt-cache search enlighment |
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| 02:29.38 | RoNiS | conceited: and when you find what do you want apt-get install name, i.e., apt-get install enlightenment |
| 02:29.59 | RoNiS | conceited: so it will take the debs and all dependencies and it will install all it for you |
| 02:30.22 | conceited | root@box:~# apt-get install enlightenment |
| 02:30.23 | conceited | Reading Package Lists... Done |
| 02:30.23 | conceited | Building Dependency Tree... Done |
| 02:30.23 | conceited | Package enlightenment is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 02:30.23 | conceited | This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or |
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| 02:31.01 | klipper | would someone be willing to help me with my sound problem? |
| 02:31.19 | RoNiS | klipper: what's wrong |
| 02:31.27 | klipper | im not getting any sound |
| 02:31.34 | klipper | its not muted, and the speakers work |
| 02:31.51 | RoNiS | conceited: it has another name now i don't know search it with apt-cache |
| 02:31.54 | mwilson | RoNiS: You really don't want to go there. |
| 02:31.54 | deadcat | klipper: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp |
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| 02:32.28 | klipper | deadcat: wtf did that mean? |
| 02:32.30 | Gil64 | can someone refer me to how to compile a module out of .c file? |
| 02:32.47 | zinx | Gil64: refer to the kbuild documentation |
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| 02:32.50 | RoNiS | mwilson: what? |
| 02:33.09 | deadcat | klipper: run the fucking cmd |
| 02:33.27 | mwilson | RoNiS: He's beyond help. |
| 02:33.44 | Gil64 | zinx ok thanks |
| 02:34.15 | pattern | i'm trying to get stronger password checking working, so i installed the libpam-cracklib deb and uncommented the requisite lines at the bottom of /etc/pam.d/login, but a regular user is still being allowed to change his password to "password"... what am i doing wrong? |
| 02:34.19 | RoNiS | mwilson: ah :D |
| 02:34.33 | klipper | bash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy |
| 02:34.52 | deadcat | pattern: thats for changing/setting only. |
| 02:35.01 | mikecd | klipper: You have KDE running? |
| 02:35.08 | klipper | yes |
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| 02:35.30 | mikecd | Are you seeing no sound with an arts app, or with a non-arts app? |
| 02:35.37 | fooz | pattern, the 'login' service is for logging in, not for changing passwords |
| 02:35.46 | fooz | pattern, change the PAM file for the 'passwd' service |
| 02:35.49 | fooz | for instance |
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| 02:36.04 | mikecd | ie. if you try to play a .wav with artsplay, does that work? |
| 02:36.09 | klipper | im n ot sure |
| 02:36.15 | pattern | deadcat, yes, i'm trying to get stronger password checking for **setting** the password... so users won't be allowed to choose weak passwords |
| 02:36.21 | fooz | pattern, PAM is set up so that you can have different rules for when people login locally (login) remotely (ssh, rsh) or when they change their password (passwd) or shell (chsh) |
| 02:36.35 | pattern | fooz, ahh |
| 02:36.39 | fooz | pattern, the 'login' service is only used by the login program, and login itself never changes passwords - only validates them |
| 02:36.39 | deadcat | pattern: but that has nothing to do with already set passwd. |
| 02:36.49 | mikecd | He's saying edit /etc/pam.d/passwd, not /etc/pam.d/login :) |
| 02:37.23 | pattern | deadcat, i wasn't talking about an already set password |
| 02:37.39 | mikecd | klipper: It sounds like your sound driver doesn't allow multiple programs to open it at once. |
| 02:37.45 | fooz | pattern, be careful. if you screw up those files you may not be able to log in |
| 02:37.53 | Gil64 | eeck I just found something |
| 02:37.59 | fooz | keep a root shell logged in and test on another console/window |
| 02:38.01 | klipper | i think your right mikecd |
| 02:38.11 | mikecd | klipper: KDE is probably running artsd, the KDE sound server. artsd can combine several programs sound input into once source, but it'll prevent other programs from opening it |
| 02:38.16 | klipper | what should i close to have sound in my fucking game? |
| 02:38.53 | klipper | well, are alsa and openals the same sort of thing as arts? |
| 02:38.55 | deadcat | klipper: run "lsof /dev/dsp" or "fuser -v /dev/dsp" |
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| 02:39.09 | mikecd | klipper: Either start the game with "artswrapper <command line>", or, better yet, turn off the horrid thing via kcontrol, and make sure it's dead with a manual kill if need be |
| 02:39.38 | klipper | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:39.38 | klipper | /dev/dsp klipper 2481 f.... artsd |
| 02:39.42 | mikecd | klipper: arts is unrelated to alsa, though alsa drivers might allow multiple opens whereas OSS drivers will not, or vice versa. |
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| 02:40.12 | dabreegster | Hey |
| 02:40.13 | klipper | i take it arts is BAD? |
| 02:40.17 | klipper | hi |
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| 02:41.04 | mikecd | klipper: It's a bit of a debate. It's a big resource hog on my system, because my system runs at 500MHz. I have it turned off in kcontrol, and have it uninstalled. |
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| 02:41.27 | directhex | mikecd, what's the debate? arts is obsolete, unneccessary, slow, and generally a Bad Thing(tm) |
| 02:41.38 | mikecd | But on the other hand, you'll need something like it to run multiple sound programs at once. If you don't care, just kill it and turn it off in kcontrol or uninstall it |
| 02:42.03 | directhex | mikecd, alsa does that fine on its own. no need for extra daemon bullshit |
| 02:42.21 | mikecd | directhex: I'm just being diplomatic. |
| 02:42.28 | pattern | in case anyone's interested in also using libpam-cracklib, it turns out that once you install the deb and comment out the appropriate lines in /etc/pam.d/password, after you try to change the password with the passwd command you get an error: "passwd: Critical error - immediate abort" |
| 02:42.34 | mikecd | Not all alsa drivers allow multiple opens, I thought. |
| 02:42.38 | klipper | so in kcontrol, i disable sound system? |
| 02:42.56 | pattern | turns out that you have to have a dictionary installed, like the "wenglish" deb... and then you need to run /etc/cron.daily/cracklib |
| 02:42.58 | mikecd | klipper: That's right. And I've found that doesn't always kill it, verify it with ps or lsof or whatever |
| 02:42.58 | klipper | will alsa work with nforce2 audio? |
| 02:42.58 | directhex | mikecd, set up an /etc/asound.conf file, it'll do it on all hardware. |
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| 02:43.22 | mikecd | directhex: It's more likely that my information is just out of date. I've been using alsa since mid-2001. |
| 02:43.29 | klipper | now how do i start alsa? |
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| 02:43.52 | directhex | alsa's not a program like ars, it's a driver replacement |
| 02:44.04 | mikecd | klipper: It's a kernel module, you run it instead of the equivalent OSS driver. google around or look at alsa's site, I'm sure there are howtos for your kernel version |
| 02:44.04 | klipper | how do i make it work for me then? |
| 02:44.36 | gaasfet | i need libmagick6 but "testing" only shows libmagick5 , libmagick6 is available under "unstable"??? why? |
| 02:45.20 | mikecd | dpkg tell klipper about alsa |
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| 02:46.37 | dessaix | how do i find out which kernel ver im using ? |
| 02:46.52 | cafuego | dessaix: uname -a |
| 02:47.00 | dessaix | thank you |
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| 02:50.13 | klipper | ok, i just did apt-get ad then the alsa stuff dpfg told me to get |
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| 02:52.30 | klipper | NO! |
| 02:52.31 | gonzo | under ~gonzo/.mozilla/firefox many of the files are owned by root and I suspect it should be owned by gonzo... am I right? |
| 02:52.33 | klipper | IT DOESNT WORK! |
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| 02:53.01 | samuel | does portage actually make things faster by compiling things for your own computer? im using gentoo but i dont really see it any faster than debian... |
| 02:53.01 | danielf | Good night all. Im looking for a simple text editor for X. I want something simple similar to notepad.exe for windows. Anyone have any recommendations? |
| 02:53.15 | kvn | Heh. Got troll? |
| 02:53.28 | dabreegster | klipper: you're trying to get sound going? Try adding modules to /etc/modules from your /lib/modules/kernelversion/kernel/drivers/sound |
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| 02:54.51 | gonzo | samuel: i think gentoo being faster b/c it's compiled for the specific computer is a myth.... |
| 02:55.02 | dumbintel | what is the pkg for the gcc man pages called? |
| 02:55.34 | samuel | gonzo, i can pretty much confirm this myth... |
| 02:57.06 | GregorR | Hey man, those nanoseconds count! |
| 02:57.10 | samuel | dammit... now im wishing i had not tried out gentoo... i dont have the debian disks anymore... |
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| 02:57.59 | samuel | ill say this for gentoo... portage is pretty up to date... |
| 02:59.44 | guestish | samokk: so is unstable, though it is unstable ;) |
| 03:00.06 | guestish | samuel: i mean you, heh |
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| 03:00.41 | samuel | guestish, i still have unstable cds... |
| 03:00.42 | h2g2 | hehe, i think we can take a poll of how many people use Unstable on their workstations are are happy with it |
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| 03:00.45 | samuel | im thinking |
| 03:00.53 | samuel | im still thinking |
| 03:01.01 | samuel | what kernel does unstable use? |
| 03:01.05 | guestish | samuel: its probably changed a bit since then |
| 03:01.07 | h2g2 | samuel: buy a new puter and install? |
| 03:01.16 | guestish | samuel: wish i could tell ya |
| 03:01.23 | fede79 | hi.. can help me to configure sound in gnome ? |
| 03:01.48 | fede79 | I have sound with root but no with others users.... |
| 03:01.54 | guestish | samuel: most people install from woody's install disks and upgrade, not install unstable directly |
| 03:02.09 | guestish | samuel: but remember, its unstable... |
| 03:02.10 | fede79 | what do I have to check ? |
| 03:02.13 | ninja_ | !tell fede79 about audio |
| 03:02.30 | cafuego | dumbintel: The libc6 function ref is manpages-dev |
| 03:02.38 | samuel | guestish, i have woody cds 2-7, but i dont have 1 |
| 03:02.40 | samuel | dammit |
| 03:02.51 | ninja_ | fede79: that your user is in the audio group. |
| 03:02.52 | h2g2 | samuel: download the new d-i netinstall CD |
| 03:02.54 | guestish | you can net install |
| 03:02.54 | samuel | and its 3.0 rev 1 |
| 03:03.07 | samuel | so i dont know where to get it from |
| 03:03.07 | Cosmo` | h2g2: woohoo ! good book :) |
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| 03:03.30 | h2g2 | samuel: install the base system, change the sources.list to point to unstable, then dist-upgrade |
| 03:03.52 | h2g2 | Cosmo`: haha, so it is :D though i am having doubts about the movie next year :/ |
| 03:04.06 | Cosmo` | yeah |
| 03:04.20 | Cosmo` | especially when i saw that they decided to cast Mos Def as Ford Prefect :S |
| 03:04.26 | h2g2 | haha |
| 03:04.27 | guestish | samuel: using any of disks 2-7 |
| 03:04.31 | Cosmo` | i mean ... come on |
| 03:04.42 | h2g2 | Cosmo`: the only name i could recognise was John Malkovich |
| 03:04.56 | Cosmo` | who is he playing ? |
| 03:05.04 | Cosmo` | is he that nutter that was in Con Air ? |
| 03:05.05 | Cosmo` | :P |
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| 03:05.18 | Cosmo` | i think i've seen a picture of him |
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| 03:05.29 | h2g2 | Cosmo`: humma kavula |
| 03:05.38 | Cosmo` | ? :S |
| 03:05.40 | fede79 | ninja: how I can check that ? in /etc/group ? |
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| 03:06.29 | ninja_ | fede79: yes, or 'groups' as user. |
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| 03:06.56 | h2g2 | Cosmo`: he's the crazy missionary who believes the universe was sneezed out by the green arkseizure |
| 03:07.01 | samuel | guestish, debian sid is unstable? or testing?+ |
| 03:07.03 | rich_ | hello |
| 03:07.14 | guestish | samuel: sid is unstable, sarge currently is testing |
| 03:07.14 | h2g2 | samokk: sid is unstable |
| 03:07.14 | cafuego | h2g2: What do you mean "believes" ? |
| 03:07.16 | samuel | guestish, how do you mean using 2-7? |
| 03:07.25 | h2g2 | cafuego: :D |
| 03:07.43 | cafuego | h2g2: So JM has a fair few armpits in the movie, then? :-) |
| 03:07.45 | Cosmo` | h2g2: oh ... i cant say i remember him |
| 03:07.51 | Cosmo` | h2g2: i'll have to read the book again |
| 03:07.54 | guestish | samuel: each of those cds has a default kernel, just use the one that has the bf2.4 kernel |
| 03:07.54 | fede79 | ninja: audio:*:29: ... my user x:1001:---- |
| 03:08.01 | fede79 | is that ok ? |
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| 03:08.44 | h2g2 | cafuego: guess so. though i liked the babe whois playing trillian. a zooey something. her name is froody |
| 03:08.53 | h2g2 | Cosmo`: please do so |
| 03:09.02 | Cosmo` | hehe |
| 03:09.15 | fede79 | ninja : ? |
| 03:09.18 | h2g2 | Cosmo`: or grab the BBC recordings from somewhere are listen to em |
| 03:09.21 | ninja_ | fede79: i think so. |
| 03:09.26 | guestish | samuel: in fact since you are upgrading you can choose any kernel and simply make your new kernel when you get into unstable or testing or whatever |
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| 03:09.36 | fede79 | in /etc/passwd ? |
| 03:10.13 | fede79 | any check ? |
| 03:10.49 | samuel | guestish, is there any place i could download a cd image of 3.0r1? i live in mexico, and although i have cable i dont trust the internet (or electricity) enough to do a net install |
| 03:10.52 | ninja_ | fede79: in /etc/group audio:x:29:username -- or type 'groups' as the user. |
| 03:11.13 | guestish | samuel: debian mirrors |
| 03:11.17 | guestish | !+debian mirrors |
| 03:11.17 | dpkg | i heard mirrors is at ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt or available via apt-setup or at http://www.debian.org/misc/README.mirrors or http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ or http://people.debian.org/~md/mirrors-list.txt |
| 03:11.33 | Cosmo` | h2g2: i'll try heh |
| 03:11.37 | guestish | samuel: go under any and look for the 3.0r1 isos |
| 03:11.53 | guestish | samuel: whats wrong with mexico's internet btw? |
| 03:12.46 | samuel | guestish, hahaha, nothing... when it works!!! |
| 03:12.52 | guestish | samuel: heh |
| 03:12.57 | samuel | its not the most reliable internet |
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| 03:13.02 | pingouin | i've tried to install some .deb file for sarge..and now apt- is broken...i'm turning round with this : the 1.5 paquage want to trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libpt.so.1', which is also in package libpt-1.6.3, i cant success with some dpkg --remove |
| 03:13.05 | ninja_ | huh |
| 03:13.09 | pingouin | any help ? |
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| 03:13.33 | RoNiS | i'm trying to connect on my nokia phone using wammu in /dev/ttyUSB0 device, but i'm getting this message: |
| 03:13.34 | RoNiS | [System error - serial_write, 11, "Recurso temporariamente indisponível"] |
| 03:13.35 | RoNiS | [ERROR 11: Error writing device.] |
| 03:13.38 | RoNiS | can anyone help me? |
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| 03:14.20 | samuel | guestish, im using one of only two broadband internet providers, and its almost a statistical certainty it will go out about 2 times a day for 15 mins, it can last up to 3 hours |
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| 03:15.25 | guestish | samuel: heh |
| 03:15.38 | fede79 | ninja : I still have no sound ... |
| 03:15.47 | fede79 | any others checking ? |
| 03:16.25 | ninja_ | fede79: yes. as user 'groups; ls -l /dev/dsp' |
| 03:16.37 | ninja_ | fede79: are you using alsa? |
| 03:16.37 | rich_ | samuel My cable goes down a lot and I fixed it by tapeing the cable box to the side of the monitor, then wrapping a rubber band around it and twisting the power cord and useing the rubber band so it constantly pushes the power cord in |
| 03:16.54 | guestish | rich_: that sounds painful |
| 03:16.56 | fede79 | alsa ? |
| 03:17.06 | fede79 | pci could be ? |
| 03:17.13 | vorpit | i recompiled my kernel with the right USB modules (i think), and I have the default /dev/usb* devices, but i cannot "cat" any of them... where do I go from here? Do I need usbmgr or something? |
| 03:17.17 | rich_ | guestish hehehehe I never realised it until I actually typed it :) |
| 03:17.26 | guestish | rich_: :) |
| 03:17.28 | MerlinCorey | fede79: you need to make sure with modconf that the correct sound driver was loaded, and you need to add the user to the audio group.. |
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| 03:18.09 | samuel | guestish, can i boot from debian sid? |
| 03:18.16 | guestish | samuel: what do you mean? |
| 03:18.27 | samuel | from the debian sid cds |
| 03:18.31 | xpato | are any firewall builder app (gui) that update the rules via ssh? |
| 03:18.36 | fede79 | MerlinCorey : modconf is OK the driver is loaded.. the user is in /etc/group |
| 03:18.39 | samuel | id like to try using debian sid for a while |
| 03:18.43 | samuel | is it usable? |
| 03:18.47 | guestish | samuel: im using it |
| 03:18.50 | MerlinCorey | lol |
| 03:19.10 | fede79 | but I still have no sound with user... but with root I have no problems with sounds.. |
| 03:19.15 | Ox_King | i'm having a problem running apache |
| 03:19.18 | samuel | guestish, its not too broken is it? and with a bit of man page reading you can usually fix things no? |
| 03:19.38 | guestish | samuel: um, im not promising anything |
| 03:19.40 | fede79 | /dev/dsp is a link to /dev/dsp0 is OK ? |
| 03:19.53 | samuel | guestish, so... is it way broken? |
| 03:19.59 | ninja_ | yes |
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| 03:20.25 | xpato | are any firewall builder app (gui) that update the rules via ssh? |
| 03:20.25 | guestish | samuel: no, but it has its issues |
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| 03:20.50 | vorpit | if i had a working usb setup, i should be able to "cat /dev/usb0" (or whatever my mouse dev is), and see mousey data, right? |
| 03:21.04 | ninja_ | fede79: ls -ld /dev/snd please |
| 03:21.18 | pingouin | is it possible to resolve conflict of apt- ? or...reinstal is necessary ? |
| 03:21.22 | MerlinCorey | heh, during sarge install, tasksel came up and before I could finish selecting things, apt started up getting some other stuff... |
| 03:21.34 | MerlinCorey | so I got to start from basically scratch... |
| 03:21.39 | MerlinCorey | which wasn't too bad... |
| 03:22.07 | fede79 | ninja : is a directory... |
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| 03:22.44 | gnomers | after setting up a dialup connection, what is the next step to get ppp going? |
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| 03:22.52 | cef_work | hrm, gotta love how you can search for 'dns' in apt, and not see one single entry for bind apart from libraries |
| 03:22.59 | samuel | guestish, im not intending to get the source and fix things, i am willing to read man pages and change /etc files... you think i can use sid? |
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| 03:23.11 | guestish | samuel: sure, anyone can if they are willing to learn |
| 03:23.15 | ninja_ | fede79: uhuh, what are the permissions on it? what are the permissions on /dev/dsp? |
| 03:23.25 | dabreegster | gnomers: run pppconfig, run pon. but wvdial can get it all going quicker |
| 03:23.28 | tony_wt | gnomers: pon |
| 03:23.32 | guestish | samuel: you are just using a branch that gets very little testing, which means that it can break at times |
| 03:23.35 | samuel | okok, im sold... |
| 03:23.38 | guestish | samuel: i use it and im happy |
| 03:23.41 | sanxiyn | cef_work: Indeed |
| 03:23.54 | samuel | im going to try to get it up and running... |
| 03:23.57 | samuel | laters |
| 03:23.58 | guestish | good luck |
| 03:23.59 | sanxiyn | cef_work: Searching for "domain name server" shows bind, but... |
| 03:24.01 | samuel | thx |
| 03:24.06 | fede79 | ninja:_ /dev/snd drwxr-x--- |
| 03:24.25 | cef_work | sanxiyn: yeah, but doesn't show many of the other alternatives.. |
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| 03:24.35 | samlander | good evening |
| 03:24.36 | MerlinCorey | cef_work: could it be because bind says, "domain name server" instead..? |
| 03:24.47 | fede79 | ninja: /dev/dsp lrwxrwxrxw |
| 03:25.09 | MerlinCorey | apt-cache search bind | grep "Name" |
| 03:25.09 | MerlinCorey | bind - Internet Domain Name Server |
| 03:25.11 | sanxiyn | Perhaps bind is so popular it doesn't need to include word "DNS" in description to advertise itself... :( |
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| 03:25.44 | samlander | quick question: is there a utility that will convert a clonecd img file to iso? |
| 03:26.02 | dessaix | question: how do i update my kernel from 2.2 to 2.6 without an internet connection? |
| 03:26.07 | samlander | or a clone cd type burning program for debian? |
| 03:26.08 | guestish | samlander: you can use cdrdao to burn clonecd images |
| 03:26.12 | cef_work | MerlinCorey: I know.. I'm just pointing out that it'd take 4-6 extra characters to add DNS into that description, hardly a huge issue, and easier for newbies to search for |
| 03:26.20 | gnomers | debhelper: the connection is established using minicom, where do i issue pon from? |
| 03:26.28 | MerlinCorey | cef_work: agreed :) |
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| 03:26.30 | samlander | guestish: odd that k3b wont recogonzie the image ;) |
| 03:26.43 | guestish | samlander: select bin/cue |
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| 03:26.49 | h2g2 | samlander: would need a LOT of other upgrades besides the kernel. to go from 2.2.x to 2.6.x |
| 03:26.50 | krezel | When trying to do installs from apt-get, sometimes I get a "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated" message. I'm using http://mirrors.kernel.org as my deb source... Why would I be getting those messages? |
| 03:26.52 | Chris1 | can anyone please tell me how I untar a directory from a tar flie? |
| 03:27.03 | guestish | samlander: you had to select the cue option when making the image |
| 03:27.08 | samlander | h2g2: im 2.6.5smp |
| 03:27.08 | Chris1 | a slingle directory and it's contents |
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| 03:27.15 | MerlinCorey | Chris1: man tar |
| 03:27.18 | Chris1 | didnt help |
| 03:27.22 | samlander | guestish: ah... all i have are a im and a ccd |
| 03:27.33 | MerlinCorey | oh, you only want a single directory out of it..? |
| 03:27.38 | Chris1 | yeah |
| 03:27.38 | guestish | samlander: too bad, well you can probably make a cue, try and find a howto |
| 03:27.43 | h2g2 | samlander: oops, sorry, that answer was for someone else :/ |
| 03:27.47 | sanxiyn | krezel: Do you have "debsig-verify" installed? |
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| 03:27.53 | h2g2 | dessaix: would need a LOT of other upgrades besides the kernel. to go from 2.2.x to 2.6.x |
| 03:27.54 | dabreegster | Chris1: tar -xvf tarred_file |
| 03:28.01 | MerlinCorey | tar xf my.tar; rm -rf *notmatchingwhatIwanttokeep* |
| 03:28.01 | samlander | h2g2: hehe... no worries :) |
| 03:28.04 | dabreegster | Chris1: is it gzipped as well? |
| 03:28.09 | Chris1 | not anymore |
| 03:28.16 | MerlinCorey | dabreegster: he wants a single directory only... |
| 03:28.17 | gnomers | tony_wt: wvdial keeps retrying to dial out |
| 03:28.19 | tony_wt | gnomers: pon is with pppconfig |
| 03:28.27 | dabreegster | MerlinCorey: oh |
| 03:28.34 | MerlinCorey | my solution works, but it is inelegant... |
| 03:28.43 | MerlinCorey | and may not catch all... |
| 03:28.48 | MerlinCorey | *shrug* |
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| 03:29.04 | krezel | sanxiyn: No I don't |
| 03:29.11 | Lenolium | Is there a seperate channel for Debian/AMD64 issues? |
| 03:29.11 | sanxiyn | Hm. |
| 03:29.23 | ninja_ | fede79: chmod g+rwx /dev/snd /dev/snd/* maybe |
| 03:29.29 | krezel | sanxiyn: Is that what apt uses to check the packages? |
| 03:29.31 | sanxiyn | Lenolium: Yes. #debian-amd64 |
| 03:29.44 | sanxiyn | krezel: Only if installed. |
| 03:30.07 | Lenolium | sanxiyn, Thanks. |
| 03:30.12 | krezel | sanxiyn: So if its not installed, it cant verify them and I get that message? |
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| 03:30.51 | dessaix | h2g2: i ordered some CDs but they came with 2.2 (which does not get along with my laptop), i was wonderign how i can go about upgrading without having to get other CDs or installing fedora |
| 03:30.54 | sanxiyn | krezel: No. If it isn't installed, apt won't check signature, and everything would be fine. |
| 03:31.10 | sanxiyn | krezel: I think APT doesn't check signature currently...? |
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| 03:31.32 | [dksuiko] | When using the sarge testing version, how would you "upgrade" to stable when the day comes for sarge to become stable? |
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| 03:31.56 | gnomers | whats the command to put a process in backgroung by su from a different terminal? |
| 03:32.00 | h2g2 | dessaix: umm, much as i hate to say this, using Knoppix, Kanotix, Mepis are the easiest methods to get pseudo Debian on your laptop with a 2.6.x kernel |
| 03:32.12 | h2g2 | h2g2: why cant you connect to the internet anyway? |
| 03:32.16 | krezel | sanxiyn: I'm not sure. I'll install that debsign package, and see if that fixes it |
| 03:32.26 | sanxiyn | krezel: Please don't |
| 03:32.27 | guestish | h2g2: you should be ashamed |
| 03:32.31 | ninja_ | [dksuiko]: by using 'sarge' in your sources |
| 03:32.40 | guestish | dessaix: net install |
| 03:32.49 | MerlinCorey | chri... guess he left... but I found tar -t... |
| 03:32.50 | sanxiyn | krezel: debsig, debsig-verify, etc. is all experimental stuffs, which will more likely cause problems. |
| 03:32.51 | MerlinCorey | :) |
| 03:32.51 | guestish | !tell dessaix about net install |
| 03:32.57 | guestish | !tell dessaix about netinst |
| 03:33.01 | h2g2 | guestish: dude, i know :/ he's saying he DOES"NT have internet accessm which is why he ORDERED CDs |
| 03:33.06 | guestish | h2g2: ooohhh, ok |
| 03:33.08 | fede79 | ninja:_ ? |
| 03:33.22 | guestish | !srt h2g2 |
| 03:33.27 | krezel | damn |
| 03:33.31 | h2g2 | damn |
| 03:33.41 | fede79 | anyone can help me to configure sound in gnome ? |
| 03:33.43 | krezel | sanxiyn: so what could it be then? |
| 03:33.46 | sanxiyn | krezel: Perhaps your problem is not related to debsig stuffs. |
| 03:33.47 | dessaix | h2g2: this kernel does not support my NIC (e1000) , and i am having too many problems getting it to work |
| 03:33.52 | guestish | h2g2: buahhaa :) |
| 03:34.08 | fede79 | I have no sound with users but I have sound with root... |
| 03:34.09 | sanxiyn | krezel: No idea. I've seen that error message (cannot be authenticated) caused by debsig stuffs, so I mentioned that... |
| 03:34.17 | guestish | !helixmiste h2g2 |
| 03:34.23 | h2g2 | poor helix |
| 03:34.23 | guestish | !penixsmack h2g2 |
| 03:34.26 | guestish | hrm |
| 03:34.29 | guestish | !helixsmite h2g2 |
| 03:34.48 | guestish | :) |
| 03:34.57 | krezel | sanxiyn: I have debsums installed, could that cause it? |
| 03:35.00 | guestish | h2g2: you havent mastered the power of the bot yet, buhahaah |
| 03:35.23 | sanxiyn | krezel: Maybe... |
| 03:35.32 | h2g2 | dessaix: what about a 2.4.x kernel? Try getting Woody CDs, they have a 2.4.x kernel option, which should allow you to use the e1000 |
| 03:35.35 | sanxiyn | krezel: Package description looks suspecting :-) |
| 03:35.54 | guestish | dessaix: also the woody cds, which im assuming you have, can use the cds as a apt resource |
| 03:36.01 | guestish | dessaix: there is 2.4.18 on them |
| 03:36.12 | sanxiyn | dessaix: Boot with "bf24". |
| 03:36.27 | guestish | you can install the new kernel without reinstalling debian |
| 03:36.30 | dessaix | using what CDs |
| 03:36.34 | dessaix | (no floppy) |
| 03:36.36 | h2g2 | dessaix: Just get the Woody CD1, install using that. once you get the NIC working, you are through |
| 03:36.38 | guestish | dessaix: the woody install cds |
| 03:36.39 | sanxiyn | dessaix: Don't you have Woody CD? |
| 03:36.43 | guestish | dessaix: you have all 7 right? |
| 03:36.58 | dessaix | yeah |
| 03:36.58 | sanxiyn | (CD #1 is enough.) |
| 03:37.07 | guestish | sanxiyn: if you are doing an offline install you need all 7 |
| 03:37.09 | dessaix | so insert it, type bf24 at lilo? |
| 03:37.11 | guestish | sanxiyn: i know, i did it |
| 03:37.11 | h2g2 | oh he ahs woody! |
| 03:37.13 | sanxiyn | guestish: Ah. |
| 03:37.19 | krezel | sanxiyn: Damn. I purged it and I'm still getting that message |
| 03:37.21 | guestish | dessaix: you gotta reinstall... |
| 03:37.25 | h2g2 | dessaix: you need CD 1 to get your nick working |
| 03:37.29 | sanxiyn | krezel: Sorry, no idea. |
| 03:37.29 | guestish | dessaix: at the cd's bootprompt do bf2.4 |
| 03:37.30 | h2g2 | errm NIC |
| 03:37.40 | guestish | i had the same problem he has, heh |
| 03:37.41 | sanxiyn | guestish: bf24, actually. |
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| 03:37.44 | h2g2 | dessaix: what lattop is it? |
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| 03:37.50 | guestish | oh, right |
| 03:37.55 | dessaix | IBM thinkpad x40 |
| 03:38.01 | h2g2 | dessaix: dude... |
| 03:38.08 | dessaix | let me do this right now hold on .. |
| 03:38.08 | h2g2 | dessaix: that's one kickass laptop |
| 03:38.11 | cievo | all...hello |
| 03:38.18 | guestish | h2g2: woody comes with 2.2 by default |
| 03:38.19 | h2g2 | dessaix: wait a second. i will give you a link |
| 03:38.29 | guestish | !+linux laptops |
| 03:38.31 | krezel | dessaix: I no longer want to help you because your laptop kicks more ass than mine :( (TP x31) |
| 03:38.33 | h2g2 | guestish: never bothered. electric elf's netinstall CD for me! |
| 03:38.35 | guestish | !+laptop |
| 03:38.35 | dpkg | All there is worth knowing about linux and laptops can be found at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ and http://tuxmobil.org or also ask me about 'acpi' and 'suspend' |
| 03:38.51 | guestish | h2g2: i did it the old fashioned way, was a good learning experience |
| 03:38.59 | h2g2 | guestish: true hehe |
| 03:39.10 | discore | hi, if i have a hpt370 controller, and i setup a raid1 array inside of its bios, and then compiled 'HPT36X/37X chipset support' into my kernel, and it detects okay (HPT370: IDE controller at PCI slot 0000:00:13.0) should i be able to access /dev/ataraid/d0p1 as my raid1 array? |
| 03:39.18 | guestish | h2g2: in fact i was a beginner when i installed it, was painful |
| 03:39.22 | dessaix | ive been following the x40 guide for deb but they are for 2.6 |
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| 03:39.37 | dessaix | took me a logn time to figure out why nothing was working heh |
| 03:39.38 | guestish | dessaix: ah, i see |
| 03:39.51 | guestish | dessaix: kickass laptop |
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| 03:39.59 | guestish | dessaix: me wanty :) |
| 03:40.01 | dessaix | thank you sir |
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| 03:40.23 | cievo | discore: IMHO I think that if it's hw RAID controller that it will appear as /dev/hdax disk...but that just IMHO |
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| 03:40.32 | sanxiyn | dessaix: Does this help? http://infinity.hn.org/~pascal/x30/x30.html |
| 03:40.36 | h2g2 | I would'nt bother too much. Would just use a knoppix or some other live distro Cd, dump to hdd and update |
| 03:40.47 | guestish | h2g2: well thats you |
| 03:40.55 | h2g2 | guestish: so much for "purity" |
| 03:40.56 | discore | cievo i definitely have /dev/hde and /dev/hdf, and i can access them and make partitions and mkfs and such, but are they really raided? |
| 03:41.00 | krezel | dessaix: the X3* and X40 are radically different laptops, if I remember right |
| 03:41.04 | guestish | h2g2: i learned that vanilla installs are the best |
| 03:41.15 | sanxiyn | h2g2: I will try Sarge d-i :-) |
| 03:41.16 | cievo | discore: what raid did you use ?! mirror ? |
| 03:41.20 | guestish | h2g2: using hacked versions of debian or "debian based" things are terrible |
| 03:41.21 | discore | yeh raid1 |
| 03:41.31 | discore | 2 drives on the hde/hdf controller |
| 03:41.37 | cievo | discore: so /dev/hdae is mirror of /dev/hdf ? |
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| 03:41.48 | discore | not doesnt seem like it |
| 03:41.52 | blaccdd | is wine the only program that can emulate win32? |
| 03:41.55 | h2g2 | guestish: sure. unless you know howto and what to remove after installing Foo distro hack |
| 03:41.57 | discore | i created a partition on hde and it didnt show up on hdf |
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| 03:42.07 | guestish | h2g2: not worth it |
| 03:42.16 | sanxiyn | Oops it is not about installation, it seems. |
| 03:42.17 | guestish | blaccdd: that and wine variations such as winex, yes |
| 03:42.19 | h2g2 | guestish: ok. if you say so. |
| 03:42.23 | nnnnnn | hi, anyone got 10min and would like to help mt try my VPN config? (its with openvpn) |
| 03:42.31 | guestish | h2g2: thats right, if I say so :) |
| 03:42.33 | cievo | discore: If you do mirroring that IMHO kernel dos NOT sees that other disk !!! It's harware issue... |
| 03:42.39 | dessaix | when do i type bf24 |
| 03:42.47 | discore | yeh that's what im thinking |
| 03:42.51 | guestish | dessaix: boot: |
| 03:42.53 | discore | any idea whats up with /dev/ataraid? |
| 03:42.53 | h2g2 | dessaix: at the boot prompt |
| 03:42.57 | discore | should i even be poking around in there? |
| 03:43.20 | cievo | discore: I have no idea ;) google.com it :-) |
| 03:43.23 | discore | i cant access /dev/ataraid/d0p1 or anything else (and i did ./MAKEDEV ataraid in /dev) |
| 03:43.24 | guestish | !+google |
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| 03:43.32 | guestish | theres no google factoid??/ |
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| 03:43.44 | cievo | !google |
| 03:43.45 | discore | well is the hpt software only? |
| 03:43.48 | discore | i was hoping for hardware |
| 03:43.51 | blaccdd | do i need to get wine and winex? |
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| 03:43.58 | guestish | blaccdd: wine is fine |
| 03:44.13 | h2g2 | dessaix: good luck getting the WLAN on that laptop working:d |
| 03:44.14 | dessaix | how do i get the boot prompt |
| 03:44.19 | blaccdd | how bout wineX? |
| 03:44.20 | Kudret | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:44.22 | h2g2 | dessaix: you boot from the CD-1 |
| 03:44.22 | Kudret | what does it mean |
| 03:44.24 | cievo | discore: again :) I think that your HARWARE make ATA RAID seems as ONE ATA HDD for kernel... :) |
| 03:44.34 | dessaix | just pop it in and restart? |
| 03:44.35 | h2g2 | dessaix: and when it goes to boot:, type bf24 |
| 03:44.47 | sanxiyn | blaccdd: WineX is fork of Wine. (Also Rewind.) |
| 03:44.54 | h2g2 | dessaix: pop it, restart, check that BIOS is set to boot from CD first |
| 03:44.56 | discore | cievo i would think so, that's how my 3ware card works (simply shows the whole raid5 array as /dev/sdx) |
| 03:45.03 | discore | maybe the hpt is just cheap |
| 03:45.14 | dessaix | k |
| 03:45.33 | blaccdd | fork? |
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| 03:45.44 | cievo | discore: yeah :) I use rather software raid than hardware because it's simplier ro set up and you can even RAID partitions...not only whole disks :) |
| 03:46.01 | sanxiyn | CD #1 of official Debian CD-ROM sets for Intel x86 will present a boot: prompt on most hardware. Press F3 to see the list of kernel options available from which to boot. Just type your chosen flavor name (idepci, vanilla, compact, bf24) at the boot: prompt followed by return. (From the official Installation Manual.) |
| 03:46.11 | discore | okay im gonna tinker with the hpt's bios to see if maybe i missed something, if not, it's software raid time |
| 03:46.13 | Franco19 | hi , somebody have the drivers for the sound from A7V8X-X ? |
| 03:46.25 | sanxiyn | Manual is here: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual |
| 03:46.32 | discore | franco that board is a pain |
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| 03:46.35 | discore | i have one and gave up |
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| 03:46.43 | discore | not impressed with it :/ |
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| 03:46.46 | dessaix | ok im going through the install |
| 03:46.55 | rich_ | sanxiyn Wow. sounds nice |
| 03:47.00 | h2g2 | dessaix: using the 2.4.x kernel, right? |
| 03:47.02 | dessaix | what do i have to do differently to get the e1000 working |
| 03:47.05 | dessaix | 2.2 |
| 03:47.09 | cievo | discore: if you have time to play I would try to make i mirroring...than mount it in linux, copy some stuff on it and then try each drive if they have same infos on 'em. do you understand ?! :) |
| 03:47.09 | sanxiyn | rich_: ? |
| 03:47.11 | h2g2 | dessaix: oh no. |
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| 03:47.17 | guestish | oohh, i see, you cant make a google factoid |
| 03:47.33 | h2g2 | dessaix: at boot:, you type bf24 to boot with the 2.4.x kernel, NOT the 2.2 kernel. |
| 03:47.44 | discore | cievo yep, once i get something rolling i can test it out. i was just hoping i was missing something obvious that allowed access to the whole array as /dev/ataraid/d0p1 |
| 03:47.47 | sanxiyn | dessaix: Choose "e1000" from device driver selection screen. That's it. |
| 03:47.57 | ninja_ | guestish: there's fgi and CMD: fgi |
| 03:47.58 | h2g2 | dessaix: the default is a 2.2 kernel, you gotta tell it explicitly to use bf2.4 |
| 03:48.01 | rich_ | sanxiyn the new debian installer you described. It lets you choose the install kernel. Pretty spiffy |
| 03:48.03 | Franco19 | hey discore you have a A7V8X-X? |
| 03:48.08 | discore | yeh |
| 03:48.12 | sanxiyn | rich_: It is the old one... |
| 03:48.15 | dessaix | ok |
| 03:48.19 | cievo | discore: did you compile RAID support into kernel!? |
| 03:48.19 | discore | sadly i don't use any of the onboard stuff for it |
| 03:48.22 | Franco19 | you can use the sound discore? |
| 03:48.28 | sanxiyn | rich_: New one is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 03:48.33 | discore | cievo yes, i did |
| 03:48.37 | discore | and no franco, i don't :( i wish |
| 03:48.40 | sanxiyn | rich_: It has choice of 2.4/2.6 :-) |
| 03:48.42 | cievo | discore: just making sure :) |
| 03:48.42 | discore | i tried for a couple hours and gave up |
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| 03:48.49 | discore | slapped a nic/cheap soundcard into it and called it a day |
| 03:48.51 | Franco19 | me too discore! lol |
| 03:48.58 | vnzlano | hello |
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| 03:49.14 | cafuego | cievo: Keep in mind the 2.6 kernels don't do hpt based raid very well; you're better off configuring the HPT chip as normal IDE and using the kernel 'md' driver to set up software raid. |
| 03:49.36 | discore | cafuego i think that's what im going to end up doing |
| 03:49.47 | guestish | ninioperdido: ok |
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| 03:49.50 | cafuego | discore: yeah, that actually has better performance too. |
| 03:49.50 | guestish | ninja_: ok |
| 03:49.55 | discore | oh, cool |
| 03:50.02 | cievo | cafuego: i didn't kmnow about hpt base raids :-) I would never use hardware raid... |
| 03:50.08 | jarango | anyone here uses linuxant ? |
| 03:50.13 | discore | ooo but 3ware is so sexy cievo! |
| 03:50.21 | discore | if you got $370 burning a hole in your pocket |
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| 03:50.23 | cievo | discore: :-D |
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| 03:50.45 | cafuego | discore: Yeah, but for the price of a 3ware raid card you could ALSO buy a complete Athlon system with 2x80GB ide disks :-) |
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| 03:50.51 | dabreegster | Question: I know dictd is a TCP/IP server, but can it be easily configured to only serve localhost? |
| 03:51.00 | cievo | cafuego: exactly :-P |
| 03:51.05 | discore | hehe i just built a 3ware 4port sata + 4 250gig satas raid5 |
| 03:51.09 | discore | it makes me drool |
| 03:51.13 | discore | nice 75mbit performance |
| 03:51.20 | discore | er 75MB/s |
| 03:51.33 | cievo | discore: do hdparm -tT on it and paste it into #flood |
| 03:51.34 | guestish | discore: wow, crazy |
| 03:51.53 | cafuego | That's not too much higher then the 55MB/sec I get off kernel raid0 |
| 03:52.01 | jarango | are my messages getting through ? |
| 03:52.02 | guestish | yeah it is |
| 03:52.05 | guestish | heh |
| 03:52.10 | h2g2 | heh |
| 03:52.31 | cafuego | guestish: Considering the price difference, no, it's not. |
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| 03:52.40 | guestish | cafuego: 20 MB/s is much faster |
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| 03:52.46 | cafuego | guestish: it *is* a lot easier on the CPu and a lot more reliable, though. |
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| 03:52.54 | sanxiyn | debhelper: Ys. |
| 03:52.59 | sanxiyn | Oops. |
| 03:53.00 | blaccdd | get wine or rewind? |
| 03:53.02 | sanxiyn | dabreegster: Yes. |
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| 03:53.17 | cafuego | discore: What are the access/search times like? |
| 03:53.18 | guestish | cafuego: hardware anything is usually better than software |
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| 03:53.25 | sanxiyn | dabreegster: http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man8/dictd.8.html (dictd manpage, read section "Determination of Access Level") |
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| 03:53.36 | discore | i don't know about those cafuego |
| 03:53.38 | discore | how can i test? |
| 03:53.40 | dabreegster | sanxiyn: thanks so much |
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| 03:53.44 | cafuego | guestish: yeah I know, the question for me generally is 'is it worth the extra expense'. |
| 03:53.55 | guestish | cafuego: yeah, its not worth $1250 to me |
| 03:53.57 | sanxiyn | daboost: In short, "allow localhost, deny *" on /etc/dictd/dict.conf |
| 03:54.05 | sanxiyn | Oops |
| 03:54.10 | modified | Hey guys. I'm willing to cough up 10 bucks for those who sign up for my ipod or my free flat screen. I figure i can either get an ipod or a tv for 50 bucks! not bad all! after you sign up and complete your offer u can email Modified@gmail.com so i know who to send the money to. here are my links |
| 03:54.13 | sanxiyn | dabreegster: In short, "allow localhost, deny *" on /etc/dictd/dict.conf |
| 03:54.19 | cafuego | guestish: Same here, the box never actually moves chunks of data greater then about 5 Mb anyway |
| 03:54.19 | modified | http://www.freeiPods.com/default.aspx?referer=7206837 |
| 03:54.26 | modified | http://www.FreeFlatScreens.com/default.aspx?referer=7073446 |
| 03:54.35 | dabreegster | sanxiyn: I dont want it to be taking up any bandwith, aside from serving localhost |
| 03:54.35 | h2g2 | wtf |
| 03:54.43 | cafuego | modified: This is #advertising. Go to abay or something |
| 03:54.46 | guestish | cafuego: i just use a PCI ATA/133 controller card and i get 55 MB/s on my hard drives (i dont use raid) |
| 03:54.49 | cafuego | s/is/isn't/ |
| 03:55.16 | cafuego | guestish: *nod* same here on the md0 box or 45MB/s on my ata100 desktop box. |
| 03:55.23 | modified | i understand but i figured why not lot more people in on it |
| 03:55.30 | sanxiyn | Have XChat nick completion changed between 2.0.9 and 2.0.10? |
| 03:55.35 | modified | click it if you would like |
| 03:55.36 | cafuego | modified: Coz it's SPAM! |
| 03:55.37 | guestish | cafuego: its weird, my old HD thats also 133 only gets 42, but my new one gets 55 |
| 03:55.44 | guestish | cafuego: might be cause im using it when i test it |
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| 03:56.01 | cafuego | guestish: Are they both 7200 rpm? |
| 03:56.07 | guestish | cafuego: yeah, both maxtors too |
| 03:56.10 | cafuego | odd |
| 03:56.19 | cafuego | 42 sounds more like ata100 performance |
| 03:56.42 | guestish | cafuego: right now while i have all my apps running im getting: Timing buffered disk reads: 100 MB in 3.01 seconds = 33.25 MB/sec |
| 03:56.47 | guestish | cafuego: =\ |
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| 03:57.22 | cafuego | guestish: Timing buffered disk reads: 140 MB in 3.02 seconds = 46.38 MB/sec |
| 03:57.23 | guestish | cafuego: hrm...maybe i read it wrong, it looks like my other drive is only 45...weird... |
| 03:57.34 | guestish | cafuego: might be cause its a PCI card..but i dunno |
| 03:57.37 | cafuego | guestish: That's with X, evolution and firefox |
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| 03:57.51 | guestish | cafuego: do you know of anyway i can modify the settings to make the PCI card run faster? |
| 03:57.56 | deadcat | how often does the HDs sync its data? |
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| 03:58.11 | guestish | deadcat: i dont know |
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| 03:58.14 | moriarty | hi all. if tasksel is running in an xsession and the xsession crashes, does tasksel complete it's jobs |
| 03:58.26 | cievo | deadcat: hmmm....as soon as it feels its buffer? |
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| 03:58.43 | dahitokiri | why is debian better than slack? |
| 03:58.44 | guestish | cafuego: you actually helped me set up my card originally if i remember correctly |
| 03:58.45 | cievo | moriarty: IMHO I don't think so |
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| 03:58.52 | guestish | !tell dahitokiri about why debian |
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| 03:59.01 | cievo | dahitokiri: thatt's a reality :) |
| 03:59.09 | discore | !tell discore about why debian |
| 03:59.19 | deadcat | discore: use /msg dpkg |
| 03:59.22 | moriarty | ok, hm... do you know how to tell tasksel to then do it again? the C environment isn't listed anymore in tasksel |
| 03:59.23 | discore | gotcha |
| 03:59.28 | Thrawn | Im trying to install sarge on a Adaptec AIC-7901. It does not auto-detect the aic-7901, and when i try to install the module manually, it says "no such device".. I know its connected and working because the POST comes up in bootup.... Any suggestions? |
| 03:59.32 | dessaix | guestish: here is soemthign i havent seen before. its askign me to choose filesystems, which one do i chosse: ext2, ext3, ReserFS |
| 03:59.33 | dabreegster | discore: one reason is that debian has alot of stuff preconfigured for you. |
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| 03:59.39 | guestish | dessaix: ext3 |
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| 03:59.43 | Stuarttt | if im booting off the sarge net install cd and running the setup, is there a way to get it to use lilo instead of setting up grub? |
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| 03:59.54 | discore | oh nobody has to tell me why debian rocks, but i could always use more ammo in my arguments to convince others :) |
| 03:59.57 | deadcat | dessaix: ext3 is pretty cool. |
| 03:59.58 | guestish | dessaix: each have their ups and downs, but for newbs probably ext3 is the best |
| 04:00.12 | guestish | ah, ok, my hd is back up to 54, thats more like it |
| 04:00.22 | lapse | anyone having problems with nautilus not showing up in sid? |
| 04:00.37 | dabreegster | discore: best way to convince others is sit them down at a terminal running Debian |
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| 04:01.13 | guestish | anyone know how to get a PCI ATA/133 controller to run faster? :) |
| 04:01.21 | discore | hdparm |
| 04:01.27 | guestish | heh, i did that already |
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| 04:01.43 | guestish | i mean the card itself, not the hard drives |
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| 04:02.07 | cievo | guestish: if you find out, let me know |
| 04:02.15 | guestish | cievo: heh |
| 04:02.22 | cievo | ;) |
| 04:02.26 | vroom | lapse: do you also have a missing show desktop icon? and a missing background, along with missing right-click functionality on the desktop? |
| 04:02.33 | guestish | whats multicount? |
| 04:03.19 | dessaix | mount /dev/hda1 as root fs right ? |
| 04:03.28 | deadcat | can/should i downgrade sysv-rc? sysv-rc-bootsplash: Depends: sysv-rc (< 2.86) but 2.86-1 is to be installed |
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| 04:05.16 | dessaix | guestish: use CD as primarty install or use manua lselection ? |
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| 04:05.49 | morka | hi |
| 04:05.49 | guestish | dessaix: cd |
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| 04:05.55 | morka | does debian run on 64 bits? |
| 04:05.59 | morka | has anyone tested this? |
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| 04:07.04 | chass | hello.. i make changes to my system path environmnent vairable by editing /etc/profile , but the changes are not reflected |
| 04:07.06 | chass | any ideas? |
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| 04:07.44 | cievo | guestish: chass : relog |
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| 04:08.01 | guestish | cievo: ? |
| 04:08.39 | deadcat | cool. just downgraded sysv-rc. (= |
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| 04:09.22 | chass | cievo i even tried rebooting |
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| 04:09.39 | cievo | chass: ehm.... |
| 04:09.41 | dabreegster | chass: are you sure you did it right? PATH="path" not $PATH="path", remember |
| 04:10.03 | chass | PATH="/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin/jimscript:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games" |
| 04:10.09 | chass | at the end of the file there is the export PATH |
| 04:10.13 | dabreegster | chass: make sure they are reflected using 'env' |
| 04:10.15 | deadcat | someone please tell me what the f is \x90\x90....shitload... in my apache log? |
| 04:10.33 | dessaix | guestish: e1000 module not listed =/ |
| 04:10.37 | chass | env does not show that change... |
| 04:10.38 | dabreegster | chass: I think I know... are the programs that you want to run executable by your user? |
| 04:10.44 | chass | yep |
| 04:10.56 | dabreegster | chass: for exampe, in /usr/bin/jimscript, are the programs executables? |
| 04:10.56 | chass | my addid dir, /usr/bin/jimscript , is not in my PATH |
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| 04:11.07 | chass | env | grep PATH |
| 04:11.08 | chass | PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin |
| 04:11.13 | dabreegster | chass: then there is some problem with bash or something is cancelling it out |
| 04:11.30 | dabreegster | chass: check your bash startup files in your home directory and see if they define path |
| 04:11.42 | chass | hmm. i checked my user's other . files, and all changes to path are of the form PATH=$PATH:whatever |
| 04:11.55 | dabreegster | chass: and check /etc/bash.bashrc and see if PATH is defined anywhere |
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| 04:12.10 | dabreegster | chass: what about bash.bashrc in /etc? |
| 04:12.35 | dessaix | sanxiyn: e1000 not listed, what can i do now |
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| 04:12.37 | chass | no PATH in there at all |
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| 04:13.16 | dabreegster | chass: then I have no clue. it could be a typo somewhere. |
| 04:13.24 | chass | i just noticed that the /usr/games is also not in the effective ENV path, and i dont remember adding that one.. |
| 04:13.25 | chass | k, thanks |
| 04:13.51 | dabreegster | chass: do you use any extra bash startup files like the sysprofile package's stuff? |
| 04:14.13 | chass | i've never changed my own files. what is sysprofile? could a package i have installed change that? |
| 04:14.28 | chass | hmm waitasec.. |
| 04:14.36 | dabreegster | chass: dont think so. no, sysprofile is a package that handles the startup files. |
| 04:14.47 | chass | a grep for PATH in the user's dir, gives this: mbox:X-Cron-Env: <PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin> |
| 04:14.53 | guestish | mmm...multimode... |
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| 04:15.17 | dabreegster | chass: what file is that? |
| 04:15.25 | chass | the mbox file. hmm |
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| 04:15.26 | dabreegster | chass: create a new temporary user with no extra stuff and test it |
| 04:15.30 | chass | i checked, there are no crontabs |
| 04:15.31 | chass | good idea |
| 04:15.39 | guestish | i dont know why it wasnt on before |
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| 04:16.19 | dessaix | guestish: what else can i try ? |
| 04:16.24 | guestish | dessaix: for what? |
| 04:16.36 | guestish | dessaix: should be listed under gigbit adapters |
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| 04:16.42 | guestish | dessaix: if i remember right |
| 04:16.42 | dessaix | guestish: the e1000 not in there |
| 04:16.45 | guestish | dessaix: it is |
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| 04:16.47 | deadcat | can i mount /var/cache/apt/archives before /var in /etc/fstab? |
| 04:17.27 | Ox0F0-0FF | Why not put it after ? |
| 04:17.28 | guestish | dessaix: are you sure? i was almost positive it was in there |
| 04:17.28 | chass | dabreegster, it works for the temp user. good idea, thanks |
| 04:17.35 | chass | i'll check my user's stuff then.. |
| 04:17.42 | dessaix | kernerl/drivers/net |
| 04:17.54 | dabreegster | chass: no problem. glad ya got it working |
| 04:18.13 | dahitokiri | on debian can you do a system wide sync to make sure all your apps are up to date? |
| 04:18.24 | deadcat | Ox0F0-0FF: well. my /var is hda3 and my new /var/..... is hda2, i just want to keep the numbers. but i guess not. (= |
| 04:18.33 | guestish | dessaix: hold up a sec |
| 04:18.43 | Ox0F0-0FF | just do it after |
| 04:18.58 | deadcat | k |
| 04:18.58 | Ox0F0-0FF | keeping numbers won't alterate the qualitiy of your system |
| 04:19.00 | Ox0F0-0FF | :) |
| 04:19.11 | dessaix | guestish: okay |
| 04:19.19 | guestish | dessaix: its there, its under gigabit adapters |
| 04:19.25 | simonrvn | deadcat: um, no, you need /var there first |
| 04:19.27 | guestish | dessaix: im positive |
| 04:20.02 | guestish | dessaix: drivers/net/giga or something like that |
| 04:20.25 | guestish | dessaix: /drivers/net/e1000 |
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| 04:20.38 | deadcat | simonrvn: roger that. |
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| 04:20.45 | lapse | vroom: yes. im missing everything in nautilus |
| 04:20.56 | chass | dabreegster, for the user where the path wasn't updated.. if i do a su - chass, then the environment works, but opening the window as a terminal the path changes are not reflected... sound like something in my X startup is messing the path, any idea where i would look for that? |
| 04:21.18 | deadcat | Ox0F0-0FF: simonrvn: i removed my hda2 swap and used it to store .debs. (= so i dont have to redownload. |
| 04:21.38 | dabreegster | chass: no clue, sorry. X is for games only as far as I go |
| 04:21.39 | simonrvn | deadcat: heh |
| 04:21.52 | dessaix | guestish: there is no giga dir and its not under /net/ |
| 04:22.20 | vroom | lapse: checkout this http://wiki.debian.net/index.cgi?GnomeTwoDotSixFAQ and http://lists.debian.org/debian-gtk-gnome/2004/06/msg00197.html |
| 04:22.27 | dabreegster | chass: wait. what terminal program you using? konsole? xterm? |
| 04:22.32 | vroom | installing capplets from unstable fixed the same problem for me |
| 04:22.36 | chass | gterm i think |
| 04:22.49 | guestish | dessaix: just look under /drivers/net |
| 04:22.54 | dabreegster | chass: try looking in ~/.gnome_something |
| 04:23.06 | chass | okay, thanks |
| 04:23.22 | dabreegster | Hey, anybody know where gterm stores its configuration files? |
| 04:23.29 | Ox0F0-0FF | deadcat, And ? tomorow they will be outdated... |
| 04:24.01 | dessaix | guestish: its not in here bro, closest thign to that is an "e2100" |
| 04:24.35 | deadcat | Ox0F0-0FF: sometimes i apt-get --reinstall shits. |
| 04:24.42 | deadcat | alot |
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| 04:25.12 | Ox0F0-0FF | deadcat, What... ever... |
| 04:25.12 | moriarty | hm, what are people's favorite package selection tools? I don't really like dselect |
| 04:25.38 | Ox0F0-0FF | deadcat, i'm totaly admirative, you're a 31337 h4x0R |
| 04:25.42 | dabreegster | chass: try ~/.gnome, ~/.gnome2 and look for gterm or terminal or something |
| 04:25.42 | dessaix | what is knopixx |
| 04:25.43 | lapse | vroom, thanks i'll give it a shot now |
| 04:25.44 | cievo | all...does anyone know if why dsniff does not detect AIM traffic even I know it's on the network ?! Does it have to detect firs packet ?! |
| 04:25.58 | kingsley | moriarty: "apt-cache search <string>" and then "apt-get install <package>". |
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| 04:26.32 | kingsley | !knoppix |
| 04:26.32 | dpkg | methinks knoppix is a bootable CD with a demo distribution, based mostly on Debian testing. It has almost 2GB in compressed volume, works in memory not touching harddisks by default, autodetects hardware and starts a prepared KDE session. Can be installed on harddisk later. URL: http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html, http://sgeiger.mine.nu/docs/knoppix.php, /join #knoppix for knoppix-specific stuff. Not Debian but similar. |
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| 04:27.21 | moriarty | kingsley, cool, that looks a lot morelike something I'd like |
| 04:27.24 | moriarty | thanks |
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| 04:28.37 | kingsley | moriarty: Just put me in your will. ;-) |
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| 04:28.54 | moriarty | kingsley, you are first in line for my kingdom of dirt |
| 04:29.12 | synz | kingsley: it doesn't |
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| 04:29.46 | jivera | Anyone want to recommend a procmail filtering rule for debian-devel? |
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| 04:29.55 | blaccdd | what is Wine-20040716-i686-S10nodebug.tgz different from Wine-20040716-i686-S10.tgz? |
| 04:30.01 | moriarty | ok, here's a nother debnoob question... how do I update my package list without dselect |
| 04:30.07 | synz | cievo: are you on a switched network? |
| 04:30.15 | kingsley | jivera: You may want to ask on #debian-devel |
| 04:30.27 | jivera | kingsley: Thanks. |
| 04:30.32 | cievo | synz: wireless :) |
| 04:30.48 | kingsley | moriarty: apt-get update |
| 04:30.52 | dabreegster | moriarty: apt-get update |
| 04:31.12 | cievo | synz: i think i'm loosing some packets or dsniff just have to get that 'first' pascket of conversation... |
| 04:31.13 | kingsley | jivera: Just put me in your will. ;-) ;-) |
| 04:31.22 | moriarty | ah, very cool |
| 04:31.49 | jivera | kingsley: Right. :-P |
| 04:31.58 | dabreegster | moriarty: dselect is just a frontend to apt, which is a frontend to dpkg |
| 04:32.09 | cievo | synz: I can read packet with tcpdump but dsniff doesn't give a shit :) it shows my chat :0) |
| 04:32.29 | synz | cievo: not sure, I never used dsniff |
| 04:32.34 | moriarty | ooh, apt-get upgrade looks nice too |
| 04:32.39 | synz | I've used others like sniffit and ethereal |
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| 04:33.05 | kingsley | moriarty: What operating system(s) did you use before Debian? |
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| 04:33.10 | moriarty | so... apt-get update && apt-get upgrade = go to bed, right? |
| 04:33.28 | moriarty | bsd's, gentoo |
| 04:33.29 | {zeus} | I'm trying to burn an audio cd using command line cdrecord. When I listen to the audio prior to burning in xmms it sounds fine. Once I burn using the following command cdrecord dev=ATAPI:0,0,0 speed=32 -audio -pad *.wav. The resulting cd has every track sped up. Like the chimpmunks. Anyone know why? |
| 04:33.43 | cievo | synz: try it ;) sweet tool...detects passwds from ICQ, MSN, AIM,.... ;) shows what people are watching on the Intenet... |
| 04:33.51 | dabreegster | moriarty: pretty much, unless you have a fast connection |
| 04:34.21 | morka | dsniff is cool |
| 04:34.23 | Segers_J | {zeus}: is it stereo in the file? |
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| 04:34.47 | guestish | dang, had to reboot |
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| 04:35.18 | kingsley | moriarty: I've never done a apt-get upgrade because my box is too customozed. Having said that, I wouldn't be surprised if various packages prompt you to answer questions when they're being installed. |
| 04:35.18 | kingsley | {zeus}: I'd check google. |
| 04:35.34 | guestish | dessaix: well, i dont know what to tell ya |
| 04:35.37 | ubb | damn, I can't find the snes emu on the debian package list |
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| 04:35.49 | dessaix | guestish: yeah =/ |
| 04:35.54 | blaccdd | what is Wine-20040716-i686-S10nodebug.tgz different from Wine-20040716-i686-S10.tgz? |
| 04:36.01 | guestish | dessaix: it should be there...well its there in newer kernels |
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| 04:36.02 | kingsley | Bye for now. |
| 04:36.22 | dabreegster | ubb: which snes emu? snes9x or zsnes? |
| 04:36.28 | cievo | !test |
| 04:36.28 | dpkg | Yes, cievo, you're still online. |
| 04:36.29 | Lenolium | Anyone here running amd64 still happen to have a copy of a libtiff3g .deb? |
| 04:36.30 | moriarty | heh, dist-upgrade EVEN BETTER |
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| 04:36.39 | cc_ | hi |
| 04:36.41 | ubb | zsnes |
| 04:36.48 | cc_ | how can i turn off anti-aliasing in gnome |
| 04:36.51 | cc_ | it looks HORRIBLE :P |
| 04:36.54 | ubb | I tried the find function, but it doesn't turn up |
| 04:36.56 | dessaix | well i have work tomorrow so im gonan head out, ill give debian another shot tomorrow |
| 04:37.05 | guestish | you know hdparm doesnt actually improve performance for me |
| 04:37.06 | ubb | I checked the game section, but they don't have it |
| 04:37.07 | guestish | its weird |
| 04:37.12 | dabreegster | ubb: hangon, let me see what zsnes is called..apt-get install zsnes should work |
| 04:37.15 | dabreegster | ubb: otheros? |
| 04:37.17 | guestish | it doesnt do a thing |
| 04:37.21 | ubb | k |
| 04:37.35 | dabreegster | ubb: the package section has a search utility you know... |
| 04:37.49 | ubb | couldn't find it |
| 04:37.55 | guestish | i wonder if its my controller card |
| 04:37.55 | ubb | I said I used it |
| 04:38.18 | ubb | well, it's not available, least that's what it claims when i tried to get apt-get |
| 04:38.19 | dabreegster | ubb: it couldnt find it? I'm surprised |
| 04:38.26 | ubb | lemme try again |
| 04:38.33 | dabreegster | ubb: why dont you just apt-get it? |
| 04:38.35 | dahitokiri | on debian can you do a system wide sync to make sure all your apps are up to date? |
| 04:38.43 | dabreegster | ubb: hmm, let me see something... |
| 04:39.11 | guestish | cafuego: btw, i found out why ATA/133 isnt that fast, its cause the drive only partially supports the ATA/133 standard |
| 04:39.20 | guestish | cafuego: of course they didnt tell me that when i bought it |
| 04:39.24 | dabreegster | ubb: it should've worked, it's called 'zsnes' literally. is yources sources list ok? |
| 04:39.27 | synz | dahitokiri: apt-get update ;apt-get dist-upgrade -y --fix-missing |
| 04:39.35 | ubb | i'll update the list |
| 04:40.01 | guestish | dessaix: if the driver isnt there you can still install debian then you can download it on another comp and bring it over with a floppy |
| 04:41.05 | dabreegster | ubb: aha...of course... its in the contrib section. do you have that in yours sources list? |
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| 04:41.13 | ubb | I don't think so |
| 04:41.26 | ubb | I'll just grab it off the debian site then |
| 04:42.09 | dabreegster | ubb: edit /etc/apt/sources.list as root and add contrib to your main deb line |
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| 04:42.45 | ubb | k |
| 04:44.01 | ubb | ah, the ftp I use doesn't have contrib |
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| 04:44.32 | dabreegster | ubb: oh. http://ftp.debian.org has it |
| 04:44.42 | guestish | http://http.debian.org =P |
| 04:44.47 | guestish | dessaix: why? |
| 04:44.50 | ubb | only the main site has it? |
| 04:45.03 | dessaix | so u can help me some other time =p |
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| 04:45.13 | dabreegster | ubb: no clue. thats the server I use though and it has it |
| 04:45.20 | guestish | dessaix: pray you're lucky :) |
| 04:45.32 | guestish | dessaix: if not someone else here can |
| 04:45.55 | dessaix | beh alright yeah i have the drivers in a cd, just dont knwo hwo to use it |
| 04:46.01 | guestish | k |
| 04:46.02 | ubb | I messed up on editing the source.list file |
| 04:46.10 | ubb | can you tell me the exact path? :P |
| 04:46.40 | dessaix | wait one last thing guestish |
| 04:46.51 | guestish | dessaix: ok, im not going anywhere right now |
| 04:46.56 | dessaix | i dont ahvea floppy drive, can i use a cd instead? |
| 04:47.19 | guestish | sure |
| 04:47.24 | dabreegster | ubb: sure.the file is /etc/apt/sources.list. my line is this: deb http://ftp.debian.org testing main contrib non-free |
| 04:47.30 | guestish | dont see why not |
| 04:47.32 | ubb | thanks |
| 04:47.34 | dabreegster | ubb: but yours might be different. you use testing? |
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| 04:47.45 | dessaix | ok cool ill work on it some other time |
| 04:47.48 | guestish | k |
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| 04:49.07 | ubb | I use unstable |
| 04:49.51 | dabreegster | ubb: ok, well I guess you replace testing with unstable, or sid |
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| 04:51.03 | jetscreamer | sarge go stable yet? |
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| 04:51.27 | ubb | why do I still get apt errors? |
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| 04:51.41 | jetscreamer | because yo udidn't configure something properly |
| 04:52.06 | jetscreamer | what are you getting |
| 04:52.25 | ubb | the snes emu |
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| 04:52.41 | ubb | but now that I edited the source list apt doesn't even work properly |
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| 04:53.05 | jetscreamer | so what does a sample line look like in yours |
| 04:53.25 | dabreegster | ubb: *groan* did you save a backup copy? msg me exactly what it says. |
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| 04:53.27 | zite | can somebody point me in the direction of software / guide on howto set my debian box up as a router |
| 04:53.43 | jetscreamer | tldp.org zite |
| 04:53.45 | ubb | ##deb http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/debian/ sid main <-- first line, this is the first ftp I used |
| 04:53.51 | zite | thanks |
| 04:53.55 | ubb | only one cross-hatch |
| 04:54.05 | jetscreamer | that's commented out |
| 04:54.13 | dabreegster | ubb: ok, what about the line thats not commented out? |
| 04:54.16 | ubb | deb http://ftp.debian.org/ sid main contrib non-free <-- this is the second line |
| 04:54.27 | jetscreamer | need debian after .org |
| 04:54.33 | ubb | oh |
| 04:54.42 | dabreegster | ubb: that should work I think |
| 04:54.42 | jetscreamer | again, so debian.org/debian |
| 04:54.51 | guestish | where does xchat2 store its log? |
| 04:54.58 | dabreegster | jetscreamer: you do? mine works fine like that |
| 04:55.03 | jetscreamer | .xchat/logs or something |
| 04:55.03 | guestish | its chat logs |
| 04:55.10 | jetscreamer | .xchat2 sorry |
| 04:55.16 | ubb | still doesn't work |
| 04:55.17 | jetscreamer | ~/ |
| 04:55.18 | apt | ~/ is your home dir silly!, or root, of all Unix |
| 04:55.30 | guestish | nope, nothing there |
| 04:55.39 | ubb | W: couldn't stat source package list |
| 04:55.42 | streuner | ubb: did you run 'apt-setup'? |
| 04:56.00 | jetscreamer | like this ubb deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free |
| 04:56.28 | jetscreamer | then run apt-get update eh |
| 04:56.29 | streuner | heh, unstable and not able to edit /etc/sources.list? |
| 04:56.29 | hooya | hi, i've got a dual cpu box with woody with a backported 2.6 kernel. mysql, after about 350 connections, starts refusing connections saying "cant' create a new thread" and seems to thing the box is out of memory. ideas? |
| 04:56.35 | ubb | alright, I'm re-running the mirror selection |
| 04:56.39 | jetscreamer | <S>truener----> |
| 04:56.51 | streuner | jetscreamer: hey! |
| 04:57.05 | guestish | hooya: compile your own kernel |
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| 04:57.33 | hooya | guestish, what am i to tweak in the kernel? |
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| 04:57.54 | guestish | hooya: dunno |
| 04:58.03 | jetscreamer | ubb i've been using that line i posted for like however long i've been doing debian so it works |
| 04:58.13 | guestish | hooya: using a precompiled backported kernel just seems wrong :0 |
| 04:58.14 | guestish | :) |
| 04:58.15 | ryon | Can anyone tell me what ports ftpd uses for secure mode? |
| 04:58.19 | ryon | er, passive |
| 04:58.21 | ryon | passive mode |
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| 04:58.34 | streuner | ubb: DHCP? |
| 04:58.41 | ubb | well, it didn't work for me, so I just run apt-setup |
| 04:58.45 | jetscreamer | what the hell exactly IS passive mode, anyway |
| 04:58.47 | jetscreamer | heh |
| 04:58.51 | ubb | ? |
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| 04:58.57 | hooya | guestish, i used a 2.6 from testing too. same deal. it seems to be some type of limitation tweakable with sysctl but can't figure out what.. |
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| 04:59.00 | jetscreamer | so what else isn't right on your box |
| 04:59.02 | guestish | jetscreamer: ftp doesnt yell at you as much :0 |
| 04:59.05 | guestish | jetscreamer: :) |
| 04:59.08 | streuner | ubb: Does the i-net connection work? |
| 04:59.15 | ubb | ya |
| 04:59.23 | streuner | ubb: what do you get with 'ping -c1 google.com'? |
| 04:59.29 | jetscreamer | ubb did you do apt-get update after you put my line in? |
| 04:59.34 | ceige | Any way for me to switch to 16bit color withought changing my XF86Config-4 file and restarting my x-server? |
| 04:59.40 | ubb | ah crap |
| 04:59.43 | jetscreamer | ahh |
| 05:00.04 | guestish | ceige: um...no... |
| 05:00.17 | ceige | guetish: That's what I though. :) |
| 05:00.18 | jetscreamer | guestish so windows can xfree can't? |
| 05:00.25 | guestish | jetscreamer: dont think so |
| 05:00.41 | ubb | --- google.com ping statistics --- |
| 05:00.42 | jetscreamer | guestish, winwoes can |
| 05:00.44 | ubb | 1 packets transmitted, 1 received, 0% packet loss, time 0ms |
| 05:00.52 | jetscreamer | so i would THINK x could :/ |
| 05:00.53 | guestish | jetscreamer: it has limited support for doing it |
| 05:00.55 | ceige | so can mac |
| 05:01.24 | streuner | ubb: should be a syntax error in /etc/apt/sources.list then |
| 05:01.52 | jetscreamer | ubb what did you ping |
| 05:02.01 | ubb | google |
| 05:02.27 | zite | I've tried google and just tried the site you gave me jetscreamer |
| 05:02.44 | zite | does anybody know of any more specific links to guides on howto setup linux (debina) as a router? |
| 05:02.53 | zite | all I see is specific linux distros to do it |
| 05:02.55 | ubb | does running apt-setup wipe out source.list |
| 05:03.03 | streuner | zite: install ipmasq |
| 05:03.06 | jetscreamer | zite all i know is the linux documentation project should have it (in my opinion, guess it doesn't :) ) |
| 05:03.07 | guestish | zite: www.tldp.org |
| 05:03.20 | jetscreamer | guestish i sent him there |
| 05:03.20 | ryon | man ftpd |
| 05:03.23 | ryon | whoops |
| 05:03.30 | guestish | jetscreamer: k |
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| 05:03.36 | jetscreamer | ubb you don't seem to have a net connection |
| 05:03.37 | zite | streuner: thanks, I'll look into that |
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| 05:04.09 | ubb | well, websites work, so does going to other irc networks |
| 05:04.11 | streuner | !info ipmasq |
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| 05:04.37 | jetscreamer | ubb but you can't ping google |
| 05:04.54 | jetscreamer | oh nm |
| 05:05.33 | streuner | apt, info ipmasq |
| 05:05.42 | jetscreamer | ~info ipmasq |
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| 05:05.44 | ubb | ok, it works fine now |
| 05:05.46 | ubb | thanks guys |
| 05:06.00 | streuner | dondelelcaro: are you here? |
| 05:06.05 | jetscreamer | what works fine, the apt-setup or the line i gave you |
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| 05:06.10 | dpkg | ipmasq: (Securely initializes IP Masquerade forwarding/firewalling), section net, is extra. Version: 3.5.40 (sid), Packaged size: 70 kB, Installed size: 588 kB |
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| 05:06.19 | jetscreamer | daaaammmmnnn dpkg is sloooow |
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| 05:06.26 | streuner | yep |
| 05:06.40 | guestish | jetscreamer: nooooooooooo kiddddinngggg? |
| 05:06.43 | zite | streuner: so I installed that, will that just work after I apt-get install and then chose the options I want? |
| 05:06.55 | ubb | apt-setup |
| 05:06.59 | zite | it seems like there should be options I need to setup somewhere |
| 05:07.03 | jetscreamer | nooo ggguuueeessstttiiissshhh no kiddin :) |
| 05:07.05 | streuner | zite: apt-get install ipmasq is usually enough |
| 05:07.09 | ubb | although, i didn't try apt-get update so yours probably works too |
| 05:07.11 | zite | awesome |
| 05:07.16 | zite | I'll test it now then |
| 05:07.22 | streuner | zite: and setting up interfaces, of course. |
| 05:07.22 | ryon | ah, screw it, I'm moving up to a new ftp daemon. |
| 05:08.07 | guestish | ryon: congrat |
| 05:08.11 | guestish | !congratulate ryon |
| 05:08.12 | dpkg | huzzah ryon, you did it! |
| 05:08.34 | guestish | jetscreamer: allllllllriiiiiiighhhhhhtttt ttttthhhheeennnn |
| 05:09.18 | jetscreamer | guestish, you forgot the yyyyyyyyy on the end of allllllllriiiiiiighhhhhhtttt |
| 05:09.20 | ubb | now I can play secret of mana 2 again! |
| 05:09.23 | jetscreamer | tsk! |
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| 05:09.35 | guestish | jetscreamer: no i didnt |
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| 05:10.07 | jetscreamer | yes you must do it like the mask as in jim cary (carrie? carry?) |
| 05:10.09 | Thrawn | Im trying to install sarge on a Adaptec AIC-7901. It does not auto-detect the aic-7901, and when i try to install the module manually, it says "no such device".. I know its connected and working because the POST comes up in bootup.... Any suggestions? |
| 05:10.33 | streuner | Thrawn: #debian-boot |
| 05:10.38 | Thrawn | thanks |
| 05:11.26 | guestish | jetscreamer: im original :) |
| 05:11.50 | jetscreamer | i'm blind and have eye strain |
| 05:11.53 | astrashe | I have a strange problem -- all the links in my browser are a horrible green color, and almost illegible. If I scroll down and up again, they go back to the proper color. This happens with mozilla, galeon, and epiphany. I'm running gnome from testing... has anyone heard of this? It's super annoying. |
| 05:12.02 | guestish | !comfort jetscreamer |
| 05:12.02 | dpkg | There, there, jetscreamer. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 05:12.37 | jetscreamer | the idea of some guy cutting my eye open with a laser just doesn't appeal to me |
| 05:13.02 | guestish | jetscreamer: oh come on, they have a reasonable success rate :) |
| 05:13.19 | jetscreamer | roflmaofor some reason :) |
| 05:13.22 | dabreegster | jetscreamer: what's wrong with glasses? |
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| 05:13.39 | jetscreamer | it's these particular ones, and atm |
| 05:13.46 | guestish | this is great, im finally getting the hang of icewm's shortcuts |
| 05:13.47 | rich_ | Yea, Ive had experience with doctors, they probably use that laser on you like a cattle prod until you say you can see good enough |
| 05:13.52 | jetscreamer | need new frames tomorrow |
| 05:14.02 | guestish | jetscreamer: you know they can correct your vision without lasers now |
| 05:14.25 | jetscreamer | no, hadn't heard that |
| 05:14.42 | guestish | they use a heat ray type thing to fix it |
| 05:14.53 | ubb | lol, I ran out of disk space on usr |
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| 05:15.01 | ubb | shouldn't have done too many partitions |
| 05:15.04 | guestish | heh |
| 05:15.06 | guestish | use LVM :) |
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| 05:15.11 | guestish | i dont, but you can |
| 05:15.12 | jetscreamer | just symlink em in ubb |
| 05:15.19 | ubb | symlink? |
| 05:15.21 | jetscreamer | or mount em under |
| 05:15.28 | sohail | hey is there a way to figure out what config the kernel you have installed used |
| 05:15.31 | jetscreamer | via fstab |
| 05:16.01 | guestish | sohail: /boot/config-kernelversion |
| 05:16.02 | jetscreamer | sohail it's in /boot? |
| 05:16.15 | rich_ | I like glasses because They protect my eyes. If I had good eyes Id forget to wear my glasses and some hippy would blow anthrax in my face or sarin or something evil |
| 05:16.35 | jetscreamer | hippy? we have terroistic hippies now? |
| 05:16.38 | sohail | so it is |
| 05:16.42 | rich_ | ....hot solder |
| 05:16.46 | jetscreamer | peace, love, and anthrax baby |
| 05:16.48 | guestish | jetscreamer: oh yeah, they are everywhere |
| 05:16.52 | zite | ya, since when do hippies blow anthrax in people's faces? |
| 05:16.56 | rich_ | jetscreamer or whatever. Some political fanatic |
| 05:16.57 | sohail | so next question, is there a way to convert a 2.4 to a 2.6 or is there nothing to change |
| 05:16.59 | zite | lol |
| 05:17.09 | guestish | jetscreamer: also look out for chimps, i hear its raining them |
| 05:17.25 | streuner | sohail: about kernels? |
| 05:17.51 | sohail | streuner yes |
| 05:17.51 | jetscreamer | sohail, make oldconfig will drop deprecated stuff and ask you y/n/m about new stuff |
| 05:17.56 | ridefree | Question: what to do? Our server http://oat.tao.ca went offline an hour or so ago, all the server kids are out of town camping and i know only a little bout it and linux... i'm at the space now and from one of the workstations can access our different servers here. but ppl from out side can't and the main server i think, is dislaying an error message... grsec: signal 11 is sent to (autolog...) not sure what to do or where to |
| 05:17.56 | ridefree | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:17.57 | rich_ | hoe do people fry bacon without glasses? |
| 05:18.01 | rich_ | how? |
| 05:18.11 | jetscreamer | rich_, very carefully |
| 05:18.11 | streuner | sohail: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.* or /msg dpkg newbiedoc |
| 05:18.31 | sohail | jetscreamer thanks |
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| 05:18.38 | streuner | sohail: /msg dpkg kp |
| 05:18.56 | jetscreamer | sohail, it can be a very long y/n/m process sometimes |
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| 05:19.19 | sohail | streuner im compiling it myself cuz i want to mess around in it |
| 05:19.19 | jetscreamer | sohail, and it asked me a lot of stuff i didn't know wtf it meant |
| 05:19.27 | sohail | but i'd still like the damn thing to boot |
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| 05:19.52 | streuner | sohail: read the section KERNEL-HOWTO at newbiedoc.sf.net |
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| 05:20.04 | jetscreamer | sohail, make menuconfig seems to give me the same functionality as make oldconfig insofaras keeping my old values |
| 05:20.09 | jetscreamer | but whatever |
| 05:20.25 | jetscreamer | yes sohail always good to rtfm |
| 05:20.48 | Shadur | Setting up locales (2.3.2.ds1-14) ... |
| 05:20.49 | Shadur | Generating locales... |
| 05:20.49 | Shadur | error: Bad entry 'C ' |
| 05:20.55 | Shadur | ... That can't be good. |
| 05:21.09 | jetscreamer | just dpkg-reconfigure locales when it's done |
| 05:21.11 | streuner | jetscreamer: if you want compile kernels, he *have* to read more then that ;-) |
| 05:21.20 | streuner | s/you/s(he)/ |
| 05:21.27 | Shadur | looks like there's an extraneous space there... lessee |
| 05:21.30 | jetscreamer | s/have/has/ |
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| 05:21.43 | streuner | !lart jetscreamer |
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| 05:21.49 | jetscreamer | ow |
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| 05:23.07 | ridefree | hey folks .. 2nd try |
| 05:23.35 | ridefree | signal 11 error hapening... any idea where to look to figue this thing out? having trouble.. .:) |
| 05:23.39 | ubb | so I use fstab to merge my /usr partition into another partition? |
| 05:23.47 | guestish | ubb: uh, no |
| 05:23.53 | jm_ | signal 11 might mean bad hardware or a bug in the application |
| 05:24.15 | guestish | ubb: try again |
| 05:24.52 | jetscreamer | no you copy something like /usr/share/ or /usr/share/docs to another partition, the you mount that partition as /usr/share in/via fstab |
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| 05:25.25 | ridefree | jm_ : know where to find info on signal 11 stuff... it just started happening i think... and the main effedct seems to be cutting access to our servers from outside |
| 05:25.32 | jetscreamer | then after it works right you unmount that part del the stuff in the real /usr/share then remount |
| 05:25.41 | jm_ | ridefree: start with memtest86 |
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| 05:26.10 | jetscreamer | memtest86 is cool with the lilo option, i used it the other day for the first time |
| 05:26.12 | rich_ | Anyone know how xchat knows how far I read? Theres a check box in the preferences section that is for a red line that it puts at the part where I finished reading. I want to know, How does it know how fast I read? |
| 05:26.27 | jetscreamer | no it's like a bookmark |
| 05:26.37 | jetscreamer | and when you minimize your window it marks your place |
| 05:26.40 | jetscreamer | iirc |
| 05:26.40 | ridefree | r right (recent ex- windows convert .. so i don't know tonnes:) |
| 05:26.50 | zite | is there any chance somebody wants to login to my linuxbox and help me set it up? I think one of the ethernet cards may not be working, and I tried multiple things to get the routing working which may be conflicting with eachother |
| 05:26.58 | rich_ | jetscreamer hmmm I see. Thanks |
| 05:27.00 | zite | I really just need somebody who knows what they are doing :P |
| 05:27.16 | owner_ | I have a file and there are many lines. How would I join them into one line on a file? is it >>> cat filename | sed 's/\n//g' |
| 05:27.18 | jetscreamer | zite bad thing to say (prepare for denigration) |
| 05:27.24 | zite | and theres jack on this computer so no point in skrewing it up more |
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| 05:27.35 | zite | well, theres not really any risk |
| 05:27.37 | eduard13 | Anyway to use mv so that it never overwrites? |
| 05:27.44 | zite | cause my next option is to reinstall anyways |
| 05:27.45 | morka | does anyone run debian on amd64? |
| 05:27.47 | jm_ | owner_: replace '\n' with space or just erase it, man tr |
| 05:27.58 | owner_ | jm_: thx |
| 05:28.33 | guestish | morka: #debian-amd64 |
| 05:28.38 | jetscreamer | zite so try the sarge installer /msg dpkg d-i |
| 05:28.40 | mwilson | !java |
| 05:28.40 | dpkg | from memory, java is a platform independent OO language. People usually associate Java with eye-candy applets, this is in fact a relatively weak use of Java. Server-side Java is extremely powerful due to the threads capabilities and the huge number of APIs available. On the other hand, Sun's Java licensing is extremely restrictive. Ask me about <java licensing> and <install java> and <sid mozilla java> and <get-blackdown> (for starters). |
| 05:28.49 | mwilson | grrr |
| 05:29.00 | jetscreamer | OO language? |
| 05:29.19 | mwilson | The get-blackdown factoid is gone |
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| 05:29.56 | jetscreamer | object oriented? |
| 05:30.06 | sanxiyn | Closed 115368. |
| 05:30.23 | mwilson | hrm |
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| 05:30.34 | sanxiyn | Bug 128938 is strange. python-xmlrpc is most definitely not included in Python 2.2... |
| 05:31.22 | sanxiyn | So why is it closed and package removed...? |
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| 05:32.54 | guestish | !+sunday |
| 05:32.54 | dpkg | Sunday is the day all freaks swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane. |
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| 05:33.30 | streuner | guestish: why sunday it's monday here :-) |
| 05:33.31 | beth | !+monday |
| 05:33.31 | dpkg | Looks like someone is having a case of the mondays!, or see tuesday |
| 05:33.39 | beth | !+tuesday |
| 05:33.39 | dpkg | i guess tuesday is soylent green day |
| 05:33.42 | guestish | streuner: still sunday here |
| 05:33.45 | beth | interesting. |
| 05:33.49 | sanxiyn | Monday here. |
| 05:33.58 | jetscreamer | it's been monday for 33 minutes here |
| 05:34.14 | guestish | sunday sunday, sunday, sunday sunday |
| 05:34.16 | zite | can I wipe everything and reinstall easily without a cd? |
| 05:34.20 | dabreegster | Me too |
| 05:34.20 | streuner | guestish: hm, you don't live on the eastcoast then |
| 05:34.26 | guestish | streuner: no, try again |
| 05:34.27 | jetscreamer | soylent green is made out of people!!! |
| 05:34.31 | guestish | zite: uh..no |
| 05:34.34 | guestish | jetscreamer: noooooo |
| 05:35.04 | jetscreamer | zite install cd's are nice |
| 05:35.16 | jetscreamer | zite yes if you have 2 boot floppies |
| 05:35.22 | zite | I don't feel like downloading and burning them :P |
| 05:35.30 | beth | zite: well, there are other ways you can install, say from another hard drive |
| 05:36.00 | zite | couldn't I load the install disks into a ram disk and install that way? |
| 05:36.00 | jetscreamer | the sarge installer is only 55mb and/or 115mb iirc |
| 05:36.00 | streuner | guestish: if its in Texas 33min monday, there aren't a lot of options left ;-) |
| 05:36.15 | jetscreamer | texas is the only thing that matters |
| 05:36.16 | guestish | streuner: i live near the cost *hint hint* |
| 05:36.23 | streuner | hehe |
| 05:36.23 | guestish | streuner: coast |
| 05:36.24 | zite | ill just download it then I suppose |
| 05:36.26 | jetscreamer | cost less coast fall in sea |
| 05:36.47 | zite | but first, how could I verify that a nic card is working? |
| 05:36.58 | guestish | zite: ping jetscreamer here |
| 05:37.00 | jetscreamer | zite look in the online docs |
| 05:37.08 | jetscreamer | lol |
| 05:37.21 | zite | guestish: I have two, one is connected to my lan |
| 05:37.24 | jetscreamer | i read supported, he said working |
| 05:37.29 | guestish | zite: well then ping another computer |
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| 05:37.45 | zite | dunno if my hub is setup correctly |
| 05:37.59 | zite | I suppose its hard to set up a hub incorrectly |
| 05:38.07 | guestish | zite: well then flood another computer, and have that computer flood you, and see if the collision light blinks :) |
| 05:38.08 | kbr | managed or unmanaged hub? |
| 05:38.16 | zite | lol |
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| 05:38.35 | zite | thats a good plan |
| 05:38.38 | zite | how do I do it? =) |
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| 05:38.46 | guestish | go find a packet spammer |
| 05:38.51 | guestish | theres plenty of'm |
| 05:38.58 | beth | you shouldn't do it. You should especially not read the ping(1) manpage. |
| 05:39.07 | guestish | if you see lots and lots of blinking you know that its working :) |
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| 05:39.17 | beth | oops, ping(8) |
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| 05:39.51 | dabreegster | Hey, is there a way to allow, for example, wget 30% of the dialup connection and another program 70%? |
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| 05:40.17 | dabreegster | Sort of like a nice command for managing your dialup connection. |
| 05:40.28 | guestish | dabreegster: theres not much to manage |
| 05:40.29 | cef_work | dabreegster: look at http://lartc.org/ |
| 05:40.33 | guestish | daboost: =\ |
| 05:40.37 | guestish | dabreegster: =\ |
| 05:40.41 | Supaplex | dabreegster: iptables should, with the right modules + stuff. |
| 05:40.47 | jm_ | dabreegster: wget has rate limit option, at least in sarge - otherwise go read advanced routing howto |
| 05:40.48 | dabreegster | ok |
| 05:41.02 | dabreegster | jm_: ok |
| 05:41.19 | guestish | !help dabreegster |
| 05:41.25 | guestish | hrm, doesnt work |
| 05:41.27 | Supaplex | but curl does :) |
| 05:41.32 | rich_ | dabreegster I think you can do that but you very quickly fine that it was only an illusion that you had enough raw speed to make it worthwhile. |
| 05:41.38 | Supaplex | someday curl and wget will get married. you think? |
| 05:41.43 | jetscreamer | hey that's right never rtfm, esp man ping |
| 05:41.44 | rich_ | find |
| 05:42.12 | dabreegster | ok, true. yes, I'm a rare person stuck with dialup. |
| 05:42.22 | jetscreamer | not all that rare |
| 05:42.25 | Supaplex | rare? |
| 05:42.44 | dabreegster | oh |
| 05:42.54 | dabreegster | it seems like everybody these days has DSL or cable |
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| 05:43.03 | owner_ | bash2.05$ date | echo my_line $date_here ... How would I go about retrieving the date data on a pipe to the second field? |
| 05:43.09 | jetscreamer | many do, a plethora |
| 05:43.46 | rich_ | dabreegster Well Ive been there and it seems like a good idea, until you see how useless the 70% is and realise that 1% is too much to sacrifice for the privlege |
| 05:43.46 | dabreegster | it's weird, isn't it? people who hardly ever use computers and dont appreciate them have the better systems and connections, while people who use computers alot and understand them are stuck with ancient systems and dialup. |
| 05:44.03 | rich_ | You realise how little you can afford the overhead |
| 05:44.09 | dabreegster | ok |
| 05:44.16 | beth | owner_: echo my_line `date` |
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| 05:44.39 | guestish | dabreegster: says who? |
| 05:44.57 | owner_ | beth: I would like to use a pipe, is there a way to do so? |
| 05:45.15 | beth | why? |
| 05:45.18 | dabreegster | guestish: says me. I have an ancient computer and a dialup line |
| 05:45.19 | rich_ | dabreegster Maybe its because computers have gotten better and easier |
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| 05:45.41 | dabreegster | guestish: while many people I know have the latest and greatest, and they hardly ever use them |
| 05:45.53 | beth | owner_: one way would be to use xargs |
| 05:46.00 | guestish | dabreegster: oh and i suppose you make up a majorty of the techinical litterate population then =P |
| 05:46.21 | owner_ | beth: I did try that but when I put it on crontab it did not work =( |
| 05:46.27 | jm_ | owner_: "read" |
| 05:46.32 | dabreegster | guestish: compared to pretty much everybody else I know IRL, yes |
| 05:46.35 | beth | owner_, what are you *actually* trying to do? |
| 05:46.53 | owner_ | here it is |
| 05:47.05 | owner_ | 31 * * * * wget "http://www.slashdot.org/index.shtml" --limit-rate=2k -O /tmp/.slashdot.shtml && cat /tmp/.slashdot.shtml | grep FACE= | sed 's/FACE=".*">//g' | sed 's/<\/....><\/.>//g' | sed 's/<\/.><\/....><\/..>//g' | grep ':' | head | sed 's/^.*: //g' | sed s/\'/@@/g | sed s/$/\;/g | xargs echo -e "`date +%b\ %d\ %X` $HOSTNAME Slashdot >>> " | sed s/@@/\'/g >> /var/log/messages |
| 05:47.24 | owner_ | trying to log it to /var/log/messages |
| 05:47.30 | guestish | owner_: O_o |
| 05:47.35 | beth | ... |
| 05:47.38 | kreze1 | I have a problem... I accidentally upgraded my apt to version 0.6.25, which is in experimental, and i want to downgrade it back to 0.5.26, which is in unstable. apt doesn't like downgrading itself. Any ideas? |
| 05:47.41 | jetscreamer | lol |
| 05:47.50 | jetscreamer | wish i could even start to grok that |
| 05:47.51 | mwilson | "accidentally"? |
| 05:47.56 | beth | owner_, that's what we call |
| 05:48.02 | jetscreamer | well i can at least startr |
| 05:48.07 | mwilson | How does one do that "accidentally"? |
| 05:48.19 | jetscreamer | mwilson, very carefully |
| 05:48.33 | kreze1 | Eh, I was using an experimental source for gnome 2.6 and I never noticed until now that I'd upgraded EVERYTHING to experimental |
| 05:48.35 | guestish | mwilson: with a pickaxe |
| 05:48.40 | beth | oops |
| 05:48.47 | mwilson | Grrr, I *really* wish the mirror at 128.101.80.131 would get fixed. It fscks up the ftp.us.debian.org round-robin. |
| 05:48.49 | jetscreamer | see? :) |
| 05:48.52 | owner_ | beth: the problem seems to be in xargs echo "`date +%b%d%X`" |
| 05:49.04 | kreze1 | yeah its an oops :) |
| 05:49.10 | beth | owner_, that's what we call "writing an incomprehensible shell pipeline where a perl script that uses an actual HTML parser is the correct thing to do" |
| 05:49.17 | mwilson | kreze1: You can't upgrade "everything" to experimental, it's not a complete distribution. |
| 05:49.27 | owner_ | beth: doh!!! =( |
| 05:49.34 | kreze1 | mwilson: well everthing that it could upgrade to experimental |
| 05:49.36 | beth | also, how come you're not using their RSS? |
| 05:49.42 | guestish | mwilson: i use UC berkley's mirror :0 |
| 05:49.47 | guestish | mwilson: its soooo fast for me :) |
| 05:49.50 | owner_ | beth: too gui for me |
| 05:50.05 | guestish | mwilson: probably cause they have massive bandwidth there |
| 05:50.06 | beth | huh? |
| 05:50.13 | beth | owner_, RSS has nothing to do with gui |
| 05:50.21 | owner_ | example |
| 05:50.27 | mwilson | guestish: The speed of the mirror doesn't impress me... what am I going to do, die if it takes 20 min instead of 10? But this one hangs up and doesn't respond. |
| 05:50.35 | jetscreamer | i even noticed ms getting on the rss feed bandwagon |
| 05:50.40 | guestish | mwilson: that plus its pretty reliable |
| 05:50.41 | beth | owner_, what the heck does RSS have to do with gui? |
| 05:50.53 | ryon | can anyone tell me where to find the docs for the sftpd portion of ssh? |
| 05:50.58 | mwilson | I fiddled with RSS this evening... I really don't see the point. |
| 05:51.06 | guestish | mwilson: whats even weirder is that they can host non-us software... |
| 05:51.23 | owner_ | beth: isn't it a GUI thing that grab slashdot logs? |
| 05:51.28 | beth | no |
| 05:51.32 | owner_ | doh!!! |
| 05:51.33 | jetscreamer | it's a protocol isn't it? |
| 05:51.48 | owner_ | crap on a stick |
| 05:51.51 | owner_ | =( |
| 05:52.02 | beth | RSS is a format that slashdot puts out, so you can fetch their RSS and it just has headlines and stuff, instead of you having to parse out all their images and junk |
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| 05:52.13 | BarbuJ | hello everyone |
| 05:52.26 | beth | in fact, there are perl modules that can parse RSS, and you can just use one of those... |
| 05:52.28 | owner_ | beth: oh, where can I get it? |
| 05:52.39 | beth | dunno, poke around on their site, they should have a link |
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| 05:52.43 | mwilson | beth: Uh, any number of people besides slashcrap produce RSS feeds. |
| 05:53.07 | beth | hehe |
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| 05:53.30 | mwilson | I was playing with RSSOwl, which is very nice, but doesn't survive a screen switch very well. |
| 05:53.31 | beth | correction: the definition of RSS has nothing to do with slashdot. |
| 05:53.33 | rich_ | is RSS anything like usenet? |
| 05:53.37 | beth | um, no |
| 05:53.48 | BarbuJ | i'm trying to set up a VPN server on a sarge box and i was reading the VPN-Masquarade HOWTO, but that seems a bit old (2000). can anyone point me to a document that explains such a setup? |
| 05:54.00 | beth | RSS is just a format. You fetch it over http. |
| 05:54.08 | guestish | BarbuJ: if its old it probably means it hasnt changed much |
| 05:54.24 | guestish | BarbuJ: www.tldp.org |
| 05:54.26 | guestish | !+searching |
| 05:54.26 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, searching is Google is the ultimate search for linux users, the universal source for finding answers, in fact its so famous it is now a verb for searching of the internet. Other sources for answers include http://www.tldp.org for howtos and http://www.freshmeat.net for software. http://www.google.com or for linux only http://www.google.com/linux |
| 05:54.28 | jetscreamer | http://www.google.com/search?q=rss+protocol |
| 05:54.42 | guestish | hrm... |
| 05:55.03 | BarbuJ | guestish: that's where i got it from... now, there are some references to some kernel patches, but they apply to 2.0 and 2.2 kernels... not sure if 2.6 still needs to be patched or...? |
| 05:55.09 | guestish | !searching ~=s/ultimate search/ultimate search tool/ |
| 05:55.12 | cafuego | <rss version="2.0"> |
| 05:55.16 | beth | jetscreamer++ |
| 05:55.19 | guestish | !searching =~s/ultimate search/ultimate search tool/ |
| 05:55.27 | cafuego | If you wanna play with RSS, install 'Sage' in Firefox :-) |
| 05:55.31 | guestish | BarbuJ: i dont know |
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| 05:55.53 | BarbuJ | guestish: alright... thanks for trying though :) |
| 05:56.00 | guestish | BarbuJ: sorry |
| 05:56.25 | jetscreamer | beth++ |
| 05:56.26 | mwilson | cafuego: But that would require using crapfox. Also, isn't it more than a little silly to launch a browser for RSS? |
| 05:56.31 | jetscreamer | !karma beth |
| 05:56.31 | dpkg | beth has neutral karma |
| 05:56.38 | guestish | !karma guestish |
| 05:56.38 | dpkg | guestish has neutral karma |
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| 05:56.41 | guestish | yay |
| 05:56.52 | trench | !karma trench |
| 05:56.53 | dpkg | trench has neutral karma |
| 05:57.01 | ryon | anyone have any experience hosting a blogger.com blog on a debian box? |
| 05:57.06 | jetscreamer | i don't think karma is working not sure |
| 05:57.17 | StR | hi there |
| 05:57.20 | beth | there's some special syntax |
| 05:57.24 | jetscreamer | ryon #joiito |
| 05:57.26 | beth | dpkg isn't smart like perlbot :) |
| 05:57.26 | dpkg | i don't know, beth |
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| 05:57.35 | StR | anyone could install enigmail in thunderbird?? |
| 05:57.51 | mwilson | cafuego: If you're going to launch the browser, go read the site. |
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| 05:58.45 | beth | if you're going to launch the browser, you must have just rebooted your computer. |
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| 05:59.11 | firewar | hello |
| 05:59.24 | mwilson | beth: Excuse me? |
| 05:59.27 | BarbuJ | is there any way i can see how my kernel was configured, if i just did an install off the cd, then upgraded via aptitude? |
| 05:59.47 | beth | mwilson: what, you close your browser or something? |
| 05:59.55 | beth | weirdo. |
| 06:00.00 | dahitokiri | !tell dahitokiri why debian |
| 06:00.03 | Thalias | thanks everyone for your help |
| 06:00.03 | jm_ | BarbuJ: ls /boot |
| 06:00.03 | jetscreamer | d/l the source same version do make menuconfig |
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| 06:00.10 | dahitokiri | whats the command? |
| 06:00.16 | mwilson | beth: When I'm not using it? Sure, why not? |
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| 06:00.32 | mwilson | beth: It's not like links takes overly long to load. |
| 06:00.53 | cafuego | mwilson: Depends on how you read your RSS, and if they conatins only headlines or actual content as well. |
| 06:00.54 | BarbuJ | jm_: will that tell me if things like CONFIG_IP_MASQUARADE_PPTP_MULTICLIENT were enabled? |
| 06:00.58 | firewar | can anybody help me ??? |
| 06:01.07 | dabreegster | beth: elinks is a good, fast browser |
| 06:01.09 | beth | mwilson: I repeat: weirdo. |
| 06:01.11 | jetscreamer | BarbuJ, yes |
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| 06:01.15 | firewar | I need to configure correctly my keyboard |
| 06:01.19 | dabreegster | firewar: what with? |
| 06:01.20 | firewar | but I cant |
| 06:01.23 | BarbuJ | i see... thanks jm_ and jetscreamer |
| 06:01.29 | mwilson | beth: I don't have all that much use for a browser. |
| 06:01.40 | beth | mwilson: do I have to say it again? :) |
| 06:01.47 | jm_ | BarbuJ: yes |
| 06:02.11 | mwilson | beth: I only load Mozcrap when I have to. |
| 06:02.19 | dabreegster | firewar: try kbdconfig. if that doesnt work, use the programs that "apropos keyboard" lists |
| 06:02.48 | jetscreamer | mwilson loves ie & netscape, he's saving himself for ie on linux to come again |
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| 06:02.51 | morka | is linux fully utf8 compliant? |
| 06:03.00 | jetscreamer | j/k |
| 06:03.23 | jetscreamer | probably morka, no idea though |
| 06:03.30 | cafuego | morka: I don't know about fully, but it's better than the windows implementation. |
| 06:03.32 | morka | that is, can users have home dirs in 10 different languages? |
| 06:03.52 | morka | dunno how well the server support this |
| 06:03.55 | cafuego | morka: Let me check :-) |
| 06:04.14 | jetscreamer | think i read yeah, dunno |
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| 06:04.22 | k-god | morka: Sure. Mi casa ist votre villa |
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| 06:05.00 | jm_ | morka: yes, UTF8 is supported by NLS fs modules |
| 06:05.01 | k-god | ...or if this is still a continuation of his original stupidity. |
| 06:05.07 | Ox0F0-0FF | k-god, it's mi casa es su casa |
| 06:05.08 | firewar | can anybody tell me a channel for hispanic users ??? |
| 06:05.10 | cafuego | morka: I just made a directory called '体ä¸æ–‡ç‰ˆ' |
| 06:05.11 | firewar | can anybody tell me a channel for hispanic users ??? |
| 06:05.14 | firewar | can anybody tell me a channel for hispanic users ??? |
| 06:05.22 | k-god | Ox0F0-0FF: Um. Whoosh. |
| 06:05.23 | Ox0F0-0FF | !spanish |
| 06:05.23 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish speakers: please go to #debian-es, you will get a lot more help there. |
| 06:05.23 | cafuego | morka: If my console had a chinese font, it would probabl;y not look shit. |
| 06:05.29 | jetscreamer | i think he mixed in a lot of lengues there Ox0F0-0FF |
| 06:05.34 | jetscreamer | not sure |
| 06:05.45 | Ox0F0-0FF | jetscreamer, sure he did hehehe |
| 06:05.53 | k-god | jetscreamer: Spanish, possibly Portuguese, German, French, and Italian. |
| 06:06.01 | firewar | thanks a lot |
| 06:06.04 | Ox0F0-0FF | votre is french for sure |
| 06:06.12 | Ox0F0-0FF | anyways guys |
| 06:06.13 | jetscreamer | the ist gave it away for me |
| 06:06.14 | cafuego | Russuan directory - check! |
| 06:06.17 | Ox0F0-0FF | 8:10 am here |
| 06:06.24 | Ox0F0-0FF | goodnight |
| 06:06.28 | jetscreamer | nn |
| 06:06.34 | cafuego | greek, np. |
| 06:06.35 | jetscreamer | gm |
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| 06:06.42 | cafuego | morka: I think it should be fine. |
| 06:07.23 | k-god | Anyone have problems with dual boot systems (Win98+Debian Linux) where Grub gets "Error 17"? Apparently 'Doze is fscking with the partition table. |
| 06:07.24 | mwilson | jetscreamer: It's just a piece of software. How can you love or hate it? |
| 06:07.29 | morka | i c |
| 06:07.32 | jetscreamer | firewar #debian-es |
| 06:07.50 | cafuego | morka: HOWEVER |
| 06:07.55 | jetscreamer | mwilson, it's just another flag |
| 06:07.58 | morka | yes? |
| 06:08.00 | mwilson | k-god: Yeah, right... Windows is *certainly* manipulating the partition table. |
| 06:08.05 | morka | what about X? |
| 06:08.09 | mwilson | jetscreamer: What is? |
| 06:08.13 | morka | same story, or i'd get into troubles? |
| 06:08.15 | cafuego | morka: If I try to add a user with a name consisting of greek characters, the shit hits the fan. |
| 06:08.27 | mwilson | k-god: </sarcasm> |
| 06:08.28 | jetscreamer | any flag. how can you love it, it's just a flag |
| 06:08.37 | morka | great |
| 06:08.39 | cafuego | morka: It's added an entry to /etc/passwd, but didn't create a homedir and didn't add an entry to /etc/shadow |
| 06:08.43 | morka | so it's not really utf8 |
| 06:08.43 | mwilson | jetscreamer: So it is. Your point? |
| 06:08.49 | jetscreamer | little extreme but you know what i mean |
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| 06:08.52 | cafuego | actually, it did update shadow |
| 06:08.53 | jm_ | k-god__: just that ? |
| 06:08.56 | morka | oh, it did |
| 06:08.57 | morka | nice |
| 06:09.00 | jetscreamer | and if you don't, sorry |
| 06:09.03 | morka | now :) |
| 06:09.03 | k-god | mwilson: Well, care to explain how it comes out different after I boot 'Doze? And looks right after I restore it from an MBR image? |
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| 06:09.06 | jetscreamer | my brain is flat |
| 06:09.06 | morka | is X gonna have problems? |
| 06:09.16 | cafuego | morka: 'passwd' for that suer isn't working, though |
| 06:09.35 | moriarty | hm, the menu system is weird |
| 06:09.38 | moriarty | I don't get it |
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| 06:10.03 | mwilson | k-god: Nah, I attribute it to PEBKAC and move on. |
| 06:10.11 | scarynetworkguy | Hellboy is pretty damn cool |
| 06:10.19 | morka | crap-crap |
| 06:10.30 | morka | winbloze works fine with all that, did u know? |
| 06:10.36 | cafuego | morka: pam seems to not like UTF8 strings |
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| 06:11.02 | cafuego | Δοκιμή@kahlua's password: |
| 06:11.08 | cafuego | <heh> |
| 06:11.32 | mwilson | k-god: If you want to describe the changes that are supposedly being made to your partition table, then perhaps you'd be worth listening to. Otherwise, it's typical cluebie whining. |
| 06:11.39 | scarynetworkguy | cafuego: that ain't right :) |
| 06:11.48 | cafuego | scarynetworkguy: Well, that's the username ;-) |
| 06:12.02 | k-god | mwilson: And asking if anyone else has seen partition table mods in a dual boot config is whining _how_? |
| 06:12.19 | jetscreamer | hey damn i had a question for you scarynetworkguy, lemme try to remember it |
| 06:12.23 | scarynetworkguy | cafuego: I'm seeing stuff before that that looks like something Rasputin would write. :) |
| 06:12.25 | mwilson | k-god: No, insisting that's what is happening, when it's not, is whining. |
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| 06:12.38 | cafuego | scarynetworkguy: It's greek,a ctually. |
| 06:12.57 | scarynetworkguy | cafuego: cool I of course don't have the fonts and that explains it. :) |
| 06:13.00 | k-god | mwilson: Um. Partition types changing on the extended partition. Logical partitions disappearing. Boundaries on partition one changing. Partition type for p3 changing. |
| 06:13.01 | cafuego | scarynetworkguy: greek for 'test', in fact |
| 06:13.52 | mwilson | Oh, yes, Windows is *certainly* doing all that. </sarcasm> |
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| 06:14.08 | scarynetworkguy | !win cafuego |
| 06:14.08 | dpkg | Congratulations, cafuego! You have won second prize in a beauty contest! |
| 06:14.13 | KoRn | hey can someone tell me how can i put text on images with what program should i used? |
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| 06:14.32 | cafuego | Should be neet, what with 538 players. |
| 06:14.45 | jetscreamer | ah. scarynetworkguy, what could possibly be causing the 'disabled ipv6 privacy extensions" message toshow up 2-3 minutes after log in? what could delay that like that? |
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| 06:15.12 | KoRn | hey can someone tell me how can i put text on images with what program should i used? like really cool text and stuff |
| 06:15.16 | KoRn | try it with the gimp and nothing |
| 06:15.25 | scarynetworkguy | jetscreamer: I dunno turn off ipv6 in the kernel maybe? |
| 06:15.29 | jetscreamer | gimp rox you're doing it wrong |
| 06:15.35 | jetscreamer | scarynetworkguy, yeah i know tha tone |
| 06:15.40 | cafuego | KoRn: I use PHP and libgd+libttf |
| 06:15.42 | ApEtc | KoRn: Gimp has pretty good text options, keep at it |
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| 06:15.44 | jetscreamer | s/tha tone/that one/ |
| 06:15.46 | scarynetworkguy | jetscreamer: ? |
| 06:15.51 | mwilson | KoRn: What do you mean "and nothing"? |
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| 06:16.02 | jetscreamer | scarynetworkguy, yeah i know that one, turning it off |
| 06:16.09 | KoRn | mwilson, like i try putting and image right? and then i try to moved the text to the imaged but nothing |
| 06:16.22 | ndee | hi there, I'm running following rsync command: "rsync -a -vv --backup-dir=/MYBACKUP /DIR1 /TARGETDIR". This should backup all the difference between /DIR1 and /TARGETDIR to /MYBACKUP, right? |
| 06:16.28 | mwilson | KoRn: "move"? |
| 06:16.30 | jetscreamer | scarynetworkguy, i was just wondering why it is apparently so slow |
| 06:16.33 | KoRn | yeap... |
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| 06:16.43 | mwilson | KoRn: Whatever that's supposed to mean. |
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| 06:16.56 | scarynetworkguy | jetscreamer: As soon as anybody lets me play on an IPv6 network I'll know something about it. Till then I turn it off cause I don't know or use it. Wish I could help you |
| 06:16.59 | KoRn | for example i open the image right mwilson and then i try to put a kick a$$ text and it doesn't work |
| 06:17.09 | cafuego | KoRn: You click the text tool on the image, enter your text and close the dialog. Done. |
| 06:17.10 | mwilson | KoRn: Open image in gimp, select text tool, select color for text, click image and type text. |
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| 06:17.22 | cafuego | KoRn: of course, you make sure the text colour isn't the same as the imnage background. |
| 06:17.24 | mwilson | KoRn: "kick a$$"? |
| 06:17.27 | dumbintel | do any of you guys have Maya? |
| 06:17.28 | jetscreamer | scarynetworkguy, no biggie it's just on cuz i'm too lazy to recompile |
| 06:17.35 | jetscreamer | and am interested |
| 06:18.02 | scarynetworkguy | jetscreamer: If I was going to guess it spends all that time trying to run IPv6 and then figures out it is a lost cause and errors out. |
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| 06:18.37 | jetscreamer | it doesn't seem to be an error, just iirc that message used to come a lot faster |
| 06:18.42 | k-god | mwilson: You're welcome to check on "before" in #flood. I'm backing up partitions ATM to try letting 'Doze have its way with the system, be a few before I can get an after. |
| 06:21.41 | k-god | If anyone else wants to pitch in... |
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| 06:22.26 | scarynetworkguy | dpkg: test |
| 06:22.34 | jetscreamer | i've seemed to notice that partition id's/types are kinda screwey, something is missing from the linux implementation or ms writes to those (i forgot the word) reserved bits in the front |
| 06:22.39 | k-god | ...I'm booting /w GRUB. Win98 has 'hide' hd0,1; hd0,2, hd0,3, unhide hd0,0, rootnoverify hd0,0, chainloader hd0,0; and makeactive +1. |
| 06:23.03 | k-god | jetscreamer: Who're you talking at? |
| 06:23.08 | lucas | jetscreamer: superblock? |
| 06:23.10 | jetscreamer | nobody in particular |
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| 06:23.31 | jetscreamer | lucas, dunno i don't know enough, i just see something that i know i sthere |
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| 06:23.38 | dpkg | Yes, scarynetworkguy, you're still online. |
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| 06:25.38 | lucas | is there a 2.4 -> 2.6 kernel upgrade guide for debian? |
| 06:26.01 | scarynetworkguy | lucas: what branch are you running? |
| 06:26.09 | jetscreamer | it's been a long time since i hexedited an hd, but there at the beginning of it is what i mean |
| 06:26.15 | lucas | scarynetworkguy: sid |
| 06:26.16 | ridefree | anyone able to spend some time with me helping me get our erver running? |
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| 06:27.07 | ridefree | pretty much a newbie ... in the absence of the admin folks ... |
| 06:27.11 | lucas | i didn't know 'we' had an erver |
| 06:27.15 | scarynetworkguy | lucas: here is what I would do it is just what I would do it may cause your computer to blow up and black helicopters to circle your house I don't know and I don't care. |
| 06:27.22 | ridefree | er server |
| 06:27.30 | ridefree | and mine ... :P |
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| 06:27.38 | scarynetworkguy | lucas: What processer do you have? |
| 06:27.43 | ridefree | oat.tao.ca |
| 06:27.47 | jetscreamer | lucas just watch & learn i think |
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| 06:28.16 | lucas | scarynetworkguy: p4 |
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| 06:28.24 | scarynetworkguy | lucas: wait one |
| 06:28.40 | jetscreamer | lucas and treat scarynetworkguy like an oracle and sacrife a goat if you got one |
| 06:29.24 | scarynetworkguy | lucas: installed with the sarge testing intallers? |
| 06:29.54 | lucas | scarynetworkguy: nah, woody ages ago |
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| 06:30.19 | lucas | scarynetworkguy: in fact i might have even installed this box off potato cds |
| 06:30.43 | jetscreamer | cool |
| 06:30.53 | lucas | yer, i'm l33t |
| 06:31.05 | KoRn | does anyone here know about. a giftcurs bug or something? |
| 06:31.07 | scarynetworkguy | lucas: in that case just apt-get install kernel-source-2.6.7 kernel-headers-2.6.7-1-686 kernel-package and read the readme in /usr/share/kernel-package |
| 06:31.27 | lucas | scarynetworkguy: cool, what about all the devfs vs udev malarky? |
| 06:31.33 | rich_ | Lots of things take patience, bbqing helps. If you bbq a lot you get so in the ball park isnt good enough and you cant get it just right without patience. So chicken when it works, lamb when its broke. That way when its broke, you get a treat. |
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| 06:32.07 | jetscreamer | and i thought i was weird |
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| 06:32.17 | scarynetworkguy | lucas: when I last did it I did it the debian way and it "just worked" for me. An up-to-date sid should be ok. but YMMV |
| 06:32.36 | lucas | scarynetworkguy: you went to udev? |
| 06:33.19 | scarynetworkguy | lucas: I did what the kernel-package readme said to. I did not have to fark around with udev stuff and it just worked for me. |
| 06:34.12 | lucas | scarynetworkguy: sweet, i've done a 2.4 -> 2.6 on gentoo before and it "just worked", but thought i'd better check |
| 06:34.35 | scarynetworkguy | zombie bunny gotta love that |
| 06:34.39 | KoRn | does anyone here know about. a giftcurs bug or something? |
| 06:35.01 | lucas | what about it? |
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| 06:35.21 | k-god | lucas: I was having problems w/ booting 2.6 kernels for a while. I cut over at 2.6.6 and have been fine, currently installing 2.6.7 on a couple of systems w/o problems. Well, at least from the kernel PoV. |
| 06:35.34 | lucas | k-god: cool |
| 06:35.35 | k-god | KoRn: Context? |
| 06:36.24 | k-god | Hrm. |
| 06:36.26 | dumbintel | how do I add SOME_PATH to my env? |
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| 06:36.43 | mwilson | KoRn: Does anyone get to know what you mean by a "bug"? |
| 06:36.46 | lucas | dumbintel: export PATH="/new/path:$PATH" |
| 06:36.49 | k-god | dumbintel: For current session only: export PATH=$PATH:SOME_PATH |
| 06:36.50 | KoRn | giftd: dataset.c:575: dataset_insertstr: Assertion `value != ((void *)0)' failed. |
| 06:36.52 | KoRn | look at that |
| 06:37.02 | k-god | dumbintel: ...for permanence, add that to your .bashrc or .bash_profile |
| 06:37.06 | lucas | k-god: hah, beat you! |
| 06:37.14 | k-god | dumbintel: ...preferably in a fully specified path statement. |
| 06:37.21 | k-god | lucas: beat me longer and harder, please. |
| 06:37.28 | lucas | ugh |
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| 06:37.54 | jetscreamer | why doesn't sudo use root's path? |
| 06:38.03 | KoRn | anyone have any ideas? |
| 06:38.05 | k-god | jetscreamer: man sudo. '-' option. |
| 06:38.09 | rich_ | I was useing 2.4-ck, and waiting desperately for the ck patches to be included and when they were included in 2.6 I couldnt wait, and I still install the next stable kernel as fast as it comes out, because of rumors that it it isnt ready yet |
| 06:38.18 | jetscreamer | k |
| 06:38.19 | mwilson | jetscreamer: It's not supposed to. |
| 06:38.21 | k-god | KoRn: I've got this *smashing* idea for a Hollywood movie.... |
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| 06:38.31 | KoRn | hmmm |
| 06:38.59 | k-god | Anyone know why the old LILO multiboot HOWTOs recommend installing Windows _first_, but the GRUB docs seem to have you install Linux, then 'Doze OSs? |
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| 06:39.39 | k-god | KoRn: It would appear to be that an assertion's failed. Do you know what the assertion's there for? |
| 06:39.43 | jm_ | k-god__: because windows will overwrite MBR |
| 06:40.06 | k-god | jm_: ...well, yeah. But it does that w/ both LILO *and* GRUB. You can just reinstall either to take care of that. |
| 06:40.07 | KoRn | nope |
| 06:40.12 | k-god | jm_: ...what about 'Doze partitioning tools? |
| 06:40.28 | jm_ | k-god: yes, you can, but you don't have it if you install windows first - what about them ? |
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| 06:40.36 | k-god | jm_: ...was that an issue? I do know that DOS-based (3.x/9x/ME) want to be on the first bootable partition. |
| 06:40.38 | jm_ | have to even |
| 06:40.48 | jetscreamer | it's only w9x that you have to install first |
| 06:40.51 | jetscreamer | and < |
| 06:41.07 | jetscreamer | well wme maybe |
| 06:41.16 | jetscreamer | which is still w9x |
| 06:41.18 | k-god | jm_: Well, sure. If you want to save 21 keystrokes.... |
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| 06:41.31 | k-god | jetscreamer: ...which you can work around with GRUB's "hide" directives. |
| 06:41.39 | jm_ | k-god: I don't know about that, there are some tricks to fool it anyway |
| 06:41.39 | jetscreamer | heh |
| 06:42.17 | jetscreamer | why would anybody really want to install w9x after linux? woudln't anybody who wanted it already have it? |
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| 06:42.31 | k-god | jm_: True. Frankly it's a pian in the ass.... |
| 06:42.47 | k-god | jetscreamer: Dual-use work system for someone else. Sort of an unofficial pilot project. |
| 06:42.52 | jm_ | k-god: yes, it's kinda stupid they are so limited |
| 06:43.24 | jetscreamer | make a boot disk and use it after you install windows |
| 06:43.33 | rich_ | jetscreamer Probably for work, but I always thought it would be a good idea for windows users to run vnc servers so I could keep windows in a window |
| 06:43.38 | k-god | jetscreamer: With no disrespect meant of the guy, if he can use, and likes, the Linux system, it would be hard to say it can't fly from an operational sense. |
| 06:43.48 | k-god | rich_: I've done that. But it needs a second box. |
| 06:44.07 | k-god | jetscreamer: ...also, even if you're using WINE, it helps to have a bootable 'Doze partition for SW installs. |
| 06:44.16 | moriarty | if the're running a few programs, citrix rocks |
| 06:44.31 | k-god | jetscreamer: ...and WRT boot disks, 'Doze is messing with my partition table. I'll post the "after" in a few. |
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| 06:44.48 | rich_ | k-god yea its like one step better than wine for useing linux to develop programs that will have to run on windows |
| 06:44.50 | k-god | moriarty: Isn't that really similar to rdesktop? |
| 06:45.09 | moriarty | in my experience, if you give lusers a dual-boot box it spends all of it's time in the w9x mode, defeating all of your security |
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| 06:45.18 | moriarty | yes, rdesktop is a citrix client I believe |
| 06:45.46 | k-god | moriarty: Well... One option is to see which side fails fastest. And if he boots 'Doze, I can always crank down the GRUB boot delay.... |
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| 06:46.10 | k-god | moriarty: One thing I noticed w/ rdesktop was that it was low-res and very low color depth only. |
| 06:46.27 | k-god | moriarty: VNC offers far higher res. |
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| 06:46.42 | jm_ | moriarty: no it's not, it's for terminal servers, citrix has ica client |
| 06:46.58 | jm_ | k-god__: it isn't, newer versions also handle 24/32 bpp fine |
| 06:47.08 | k-god | jm_: What versions? |
| 06:47.17 | moriarty | ok |
| 06:47.20 | jm_ | k-god: the one in sarge/sid should do it, check the changelog |
| 06:47.23 | k-god | jm_: I'm 1.3.1-1 here. |
| 06:47.55 | k-god | jm_: I'm seeing February for last updates here. |
| 06:48.04 | jm_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:48.08 | jm_ | for version 1.3.0 |
| 06:48.16 | jm_ | that's from Changelog |
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| 06:48.23 | BarbuJ | later, eveyone... |
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| 06:54.46 | k-god | OK, about that partition table rewrite... |
| 06:55.03 | k-god | ...rebooting from Knoppix (w/ intact p-table) to installed Debian, to show it works.... |
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| 06:56.49 | b3nj | !dict pleonasm |
| 06:56.51 | dpkg | Dictionary 'pleonasm' (3 shown): Redundancy of expression; tautology. ;; 150 1 definitions retrieved 151 "pleonasm" foldoc "The Free On-line Dictionary of Computing (27 SEP 03)" pleonasm ;; using more words than necessary; "a tiny little child". |
| 06:56.55 | k-god | There's a "partition doesn not end on cilinder boundary" for partitions 1-4 |
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| 06:57.33 | k-god | ...but it's all there. |
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| 06:57.54 | k-god | Rebooting, again to Linux, to show that neither Knoppix nor Debian are screwing with this. |
| 06:58.24 | ight | Hello, I'm haveing real trouble getting my sound card to work can anyone help |
| 06:59.01 | jm_ | cilinder boundary is typical when partitions are created with windows, it can usualyl be ignored |
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| 07:00.12 | k-god | OK, that worked.... |
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| 07:00.40 | k-god | ...so we're booting Windows, safe mode, just for kicks. |
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| 07:00.55 | warhead | Hello World! |
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| 07:02.12 | k-god | OK....rebooting again... |
| 07:02.44 | g17 | please, is there any mirror of debian testing "sarge" iso images? |
| 07:02.47 | k-god | And we get: "GRUB loading, please wait", followed by "Error 17" |
| 07:02.59 | k-god | !tell g17 about jigdo |
| 07:03.10 | mwilson | All the ones listed on the web site aren't any you'd want to use, of course. |
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| 07:03.40 | k-god | mwilson: You follow all that or you got me /ignored? |
| 07:03.43 | g17 | k-god: i need iso images, no jidgo |
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| 07:04.06 | k-god | g17: Best bet: buy some from a vendor. Second best bet: jigdo. Third best bet: friend. |
| 07:04.34 | jm_ | k-god: I can't find error 17 in GRUB sources, pretty weird |
| 07:04.37 | themolester | slightly off topic... anyone know whats up with slashdot.org ? |
| 07:04.44 | k-god | So...now we reboot off of Knoppix... |
| 07:04.50 | themolester | its not responding for me in the first time i ever seen |
| 07:05.12 | themolester | i even got a 503 when it responded briefly |
| 07:05.14 | k-god | jm_: Don't tell mwilson. He thinks it's PEBKAC |
| 07:05.31 | k-god | jm_: ...note that '17' could be a variable evaluated in the message. |
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| 07:05.47 | karlfr | themolester, must personal cause /. works for me. |
| 07:05.56 | themolester | hrmm... strange |
| 07:06.14 | k-god | jm_: ...Google turns up some hits. but not particularly informative as of yet. |
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| 07:06.16 | themolester | bah... just started working... that was a scary 5 minutes |
| 07:06.24 | karlfr | heheh |
| 07:06.39 | themolester | heh... i thought we were being attacked by martians |
| 07:06.43 | jm_ | k-god: yes, I searched where it calls the "display Error message" funciton |
| 07:06.52 | themolester | and the datacenter(s) housing the servers were bombed |
| 07:06.53 | themolester | :) |
| 07:07.01 | jm_ | k-god: does it mention stage1 and stage2 at all ? |
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| 07:08.02 | k-god | jm_: I typed it all. |
| 07:08.20 | jm_ | k-god: typed all what ? |
| 07:08.20 | k-god | jm_: ...Um. Stage 1.5 IIRC. |
| 07:08.55 | k-god | jm_: I lied. Gimme a sec. |
| 07:09.06 | k-god | The modified partition table's going to be in #flood RSN. |
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| 07:11.11 | k-god | OK, I just posted before and after partition tables to #flood. |
| 07:11.23 | k-god | partition *boundaries* don't move. Partition *labels* (types) do. |
| 07:11.59 | jm_ | does it say stuff like GRUB, Loading stage*....\n ? |
| 07:12.32 | k-god | One sec, I'm rebooting to see that. |
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| 07:12.55 | k-god | jm_: OK, here it is. Standard POST. Then: |
| 07:13.05 | k-god | Verifying DMI Pool data ....... |
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| 07:13.12 | jm_ | I never use grub-install since it never works for me for some reason, I just use install command to install it using stage1 and stage2, no stage1.5 |
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| 07:13.16 | k-god | Boot from ATAPI CD-ROM : Failure ... |
| 07:13.23 | k-god | GRUB Loading stage1.5 |
| 07:13.30 | k-god | <two blank lines> |
| 07:13.38 | k-god | GRUB loading, please wait... |
| 07:13.41 | k-god | Error 17 |
| 07:13.44 | k-god | <blinking cursor> |
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| 07:14.04 | k-god | Hrm. |
| 07:14.10 | jm_ | GRUB loading ? |
| 07:14.16 | k-god | Yes. |
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| 07:14.26 | jm_ | ahh that's in stage 1.5 |
| 07:14.39 | k-god | This is a fresh testing/unstable install as of last night. |
| 07:15.15 | k-god | Any thoughts on why the partition table changes? |
| 07:15.38 | k-god | Note that I'm using two possibly different fdisks: Debian testing/unstable and Knoppix 3.3 |
| 07:15.50 | SlayerXP | k-god: the great thing about using unstable is that, when it breaks, you get to keep _all_ the pieces |
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| 07:16.33 | jm_ | when does partition table change ? |
| 07:16.46 | dumbintel | how can I find a list of installed pkgs which contain certain words or lettters? |
| 07:17.00 | k-god | jm_: Between shutting down the Debian system, and rebooting into Knoppix, after booting Win98 |
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| 07:17.29 | k-god | dumbintel: contain in what? Package descriptions or file/directory names? |
| 07:17.36 | jm_ | k-god: so maybe it's windows that modifies it ? |
| 07:17.45 | k-god | dumbintel: Some combination of dpkg --get-selections and dpkg-awk, I think. |
| 07:17.48 | dumbintel | pkg name |
| 07:17.56 | k-god | jm_: That's the operational assumption. |
| 07:18.06 | k-god | dumbintel: dpkg --get-selections | grep <pattern> |
| 07:18.28 | jm_ | k-god: error 17 seems to be ERR_FSYS_MOUNT, which makes sense if partition table is screwed |
| 07:18.43 | k-god | jm_: Well, *that*'s some welcome consistency. |
| 07:19.28 | k-god | jm_: Grub uses its system map to determine drive geometry, and expects some gross semblance to reality, no? |
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| 07:20.14 | k-god | ...or the stick. |
| 07:22.33 | k-god | I know gpart will repair a partition table. Is there anything which will just look at it and tell you if it's accurate or not? |
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| 07:25.52 | k-god | Damn this is frustrating. |
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| 07:26.21 | jm_ | k-god: map is just he mapping of device names to grub discovered drives |
| 07:26.46 | k-god | jm_: Yeah, but does it keep actual geometries somewhere? |
| 07:27.12 | jm_ | k-god: no, it queries the drive for that each time |
| 07:27.23 | k-god | jm_: My understanding is that it's got enough filesystem smarts it doesn't need these. Though whether or not it's got an fstab equiv is what I'm wondering. |
| 07:27.45 | jm_ | k-god: it doesn't, root() causes the "mount" attempt |
| 07:27.49 | Thalias | can debian use .rpm? |
| 07:27.53 | k-god | jm_: I do find an e2fs_stage1_5 file on another system. |
| 07:27.55 | k-god | jm_: OK. |
| 07:28.02 | k-god | !tell Thalias about alien |
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| 07:28.12 | jm_ | k-god: yes, that's what's typically used in Debian when you have GRUB installed on ext2fs |
| 07:28.23 | k-god | Thalias: Yes, basically, via a translation tool. |
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| 07:28.43 | jm_ | Thalias: apt-cache show rpm alien |
| 07:28.48 | Thalias | thanks |
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| 07:29.37 | k-god | jm_: What I'm wondering is if I'm better off nuking the disk, partitioning from Windows, putting Win98 on it, then installing Linux into the slackspace, or something else. |
| 07:30.06 | k-god | jm_: Mind, I'd rather not go through all that. But restoring 'Doze from tarfiles is hell w/ permissions, etc, I fear. |
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| 07:30.10 | jm_ | k-god: win98 has never touched partition table for me |
| 07:30.36 | k-god | jm_: ...the alternative would be to repartition, restore Windows from backup, run "fdisk /mbr" and pray that that works. |
| 07:30.36 | jm_ | k-god: it isn't, it's fatfs, no permissions, ownership - cp -a is what I always use to copy my windows installations on a new disk |
| 07:30.46 | k-god | jm_: Hidden and system file attributes. |
| 07:30.59 | k-god | jm_: How do those get mapped in tar? |
| 07:31.32 | jm_ | k-god: beats me, I use cp :) |
| 07:31.53 | jm_ | maybe dd the drive and backup that, you can then loop mount it and cp it |
| 07:32.04 | k-god | jm_: Um. No thanks. |
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| 07:41.44 | roberto_brazuca | hello.... anybody here can help me to configure mldonkey with fasttrack servers?? |
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| 07:42.04 | SlayerXP | roberto_brazuca: no, go away |
| 07:42.58 | roberto_brazuca | SlayerXP, u r very funny.. |
| 07:43.00 | SlayerXP | roberto_brazuca: /part #debian; /join #p2pkiddieswhocan'tbebotheredtoreaddocs |
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| 07:43.13 | nk^admnin | roberto_brazuca: it was that answer that a quesion of you asked for |
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| 07:43.56 | simonrvn | roberto_brazuca: cd /usr/share/doc/mldonkey; less README* |
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| 07:44.05 | roberto_brazuca | but he dont be stupid.... |
| 07:44.18 | CASP6 | shurumburum |
| 07:44.50 | SlayerXP | simonrvn: that's almost evil, well done. :) |
| 07:45.06 | ridefree | eth0: Transmit error, Tx status register 82. |
| 07:45.06 | ridefree | Aug 2 00:06:17 oat kernel: Probably a duplex mismatch. any ideas? |
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| 07:45.31 | simonrvn | SlayerXP: heh |
| 07:45.35 | SlayerXP | ridefree: check you NIC and switch agree as to the duplex settings |
| 07:45.50 | SlayerXP | your |
| 07:45.53 | rmrfchik | hi |
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| 07:46.05 | rmrfchik | is there installserver software for debian? |
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| 07:46.10 | SlayerXP | rmrfchik: FAI |
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| 07:46.43 | ridefree | barely know much about linux... I'm trying to figure out how to get our servers back up |
| 07:47.08 | k-god | ridefree: Lift them carefully. |
| 07:47.31 | ridefree | :) ... yeah thanks |
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| 07:47.57 | ridefree | slayer... the NIC thing, didn't check cause they had been running well for months |
| 07:48.09 | ridefree | could it be all of a sudden like that? |
| 07:48.32 | tarzeau | !debstats |
| 07:48.32 | dpkg | well, debstats is managed by sussudio, or http://debstats.dontexist.org/ |
| 07:48.36 | SlayerXP | ridefree: in an infinite universe, anything is possible |
| 07:48.45 | ridefree | true true .. |
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| 07:49.05 | k-god | ridefree: Check your system logs for similar errors. Could be bad nic, could be bad switch, could be bad port on switch. |
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| 07:49.33 | ridefree | the other errors are this constant S'ignal 11 sent to' |
| 07:49.38 | k-god | ridefree: Me and a few folks have been seeing a slew of HW failures and yeah, they can just pop up. |
| 07:50.08 | k-god | ridefree: *That* (sig11) usually points to other HW problems. Could be a bad mobo, bad memory, bad CPU. Best bet is to isolate and test each. |
| 07:50.28 | rmrfchik | SlayerXP: 10x! |
| 07:50.30 | ridefree | hrmmm ... gonna be tough |
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| 07:51.21 | ridefree | the guys who know how to do all that stuff here just went camping for the week .. .erggh |
| 07:51.43 | ridefree | thanks fer the help tho |
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| 07:52.06 | k-god | ridefree: How many servers you got? Any backups for failover? What's your HW vendor SLA? |
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| 07:52.53 | k-god | jm_: Any experience w/ fdisk vs. cfdisk in sharing formatting responsibilities w/ Linux & 'Doze? |
| 07:53.22 | holycow | god, i had no idea how much i hated flash even though i'm a designer |
| 07:53.22 | holycow | :) |
| 07:53.23 | holycow | ehe |
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| 07:53.38 | gudi | hi |
| 07:53.43 | gudi | anyone use prelude? |
| 07:54.00 | jm_ | k-god: yes, cfdisk screwed me when I had NT workstation, it rewrote part. table with diff. CHS values which cause windoze to fail booting, my boss wasn't happy - in fdisk I would at least see some warnings etc. - I always create partitions with fdisk in Linux and windows is happy using them |
| 07:54.19 | tarzeau | gudi: is that the stuff like snort? |
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| 07:54.32 | tarzeau | gudi: haha there's better ways to waste time, like playing nethack |
| 07:54.35 | k-god | jm_: OK. I use fdisk myself, prefer it, but keep hearing (for years now) that cfdisk is somehow "better". |
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| 07:55.13 | jm_ | k-god: I doubt it is, it just has some silly user interface which makes it easier to use for newbies |
| 07:55.13 | ridefree | k-god: whats happening is inside the network i can get out and see all the servers fine. send mail. silc. etc.. but ppl cant send mail in... nor can ppl access web or shell acounts from out |
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| 07:55.42 | k-god | jm_: That was my take. |
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| 07:55.59 | k-god | ridefree: Assymetric routing? Your return traffic going where your outbound is? |
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| 07:56.31 | paknaald | i've downloaded a few .deb's from packages.debian.org and put them in a folder... how do i get apt-get to see them correctly? i've tried adding deb file:/winshare main to sources.list but to no avail. |
| 07:56.33 | k-god | ridefree: I've seen that happen when $FORMER_GIG's ISP fscked up a router config. |
| 07:56.40 | k-god | ridefree: We could ping in, but not back out. |
| 07:56.41 | ridefree | hmmm .. stretching the limits of my knowledge here |
| 07:56.49 | hooya | k-god, sorry to jump in, but how is parted? i'm a fdisk user myself. had heard parted could do a lot of what partition-magic does etc... |
| 07:56.59 | k-god | paknaald: Install 'em w/ dpkg referencing the files directly. |
| 07:57.11 | k-god | hooya: I'm using gpart, not parted. |
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| 07:57.46 | k-god | hooya: ...which guesses partitions for repair. parted is a partition resizer, IIUC. |
| 07:57.50 | SlayerXP | rmrfchik: 10x ? |
| 07:57.56 | jm_ | paknaald: you need to creater proper repository, there are howtos about it, or just use dpkg directly |
| 07:57.57 | SlayerXP | it's a bit eraly for algebra |
| 07:58.00 | SlayerXP | early |
| 07:58.12 | paknaald | if i download all the necessary packages for gzip and rpm to work dpkg can install them? |
| 07:58.28 | jm_ | paknal;no, debian has gzip packaged |
| 07:58.39 | ridefree | k-god: having not set up a inux network before... not sure how to tell bout th asym routing unless it's HW |
| 07:58.43 | paknaald | i need to get my nvidia-mcp working before i can do a netinstall |
| 07:58.46 | k-god | !tell paknaald about alien |
| 07:59.32 | k-god | ridefree: Watch your outbound and inbound routing. It helps to have a system logically on either side of the connection. |
| 08:00.08 | k-god | ridefree: In our case, we had remote hands saying what he could see, and we were looking i n remotely. The routes didn't match up. It took us a long time to see that. |
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| 08:00.56 | ridefree | k-god: was that sumthin that just happened. or when u were settin up? |
| 08:01.01 | skaught | In sarge, by what method is my wireless connection being initialized by default? It works great, but I want to make sure I'm making the changes in the right location. I'm assuming /etc/pcmcia/wireless.opts? |
| 08:01.13 | jm_ | sounds about right |
| 08:01.25 | k-god | ridefree: It was maintenance by the ISP. |
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| 08:01.31 | k-god | ridefree: Replacing routers or something. |
| 08:01.38 | k-god | ridefree: ...or more likely, back-end cable. |
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| 08:01.59 | ridefree | hrmm... |
| 08:02.19 | k-god | skaught: There are a number of "figure out what network I'm logging on to" solutions none of which are either particularly comprensible or functional, IMO. |
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| 08:02.51 | k-god | ridefree: Luck of the draw, we were apparently the only customers they fscked up. Or that they copped to to us. |
| 08:02.53 | debiano | Hello every1 |
| 08:03.16 | SlayerXP | --- every1 :No such nick/channel |
| 08:03.28 | SlayerXP | debiano: do you often talk to nonexistant people? |
| 08:03.33 | skaught | k-god: But where do I define my wireless options? Ex, encryption etc. |
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| 08:03.41 | ridefree | k-god: thanx fer the tips. looks like i'm gonna have to get someone in here who knows the system better... was hoping there might be a few commands i could do |
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| 08:03.47 | k-god | skaught: NFC. |
| 08:03.47 | bob2 | cafuego: it's just you |
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| 08:04.04 | ridefree | our isp is sketchy sometimes .. |
| 08:04.28 | k-god | ridefree: Basically: look at your interfaces (ifconfig), routes (route -n), paths (mtr or traceroute), and kernel space stuff (/proc/net/<mumble>). |
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| 08:05.12 | k-god | ridefree: I'm a bit sketchy on all of what that last might be, but you can tell a lot with pings, traces, routes, and general error messages, looking for stuff that doesn't line up right. |
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| 08:06.43 | ridefree | k-god: yeah they dont seem to have ipconfig on here... weird? will try other stuff |
| 08:06.55 | k-god | ridefree: /sbin/ifconfig |
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| 08:07.17 | yann__ | hi ! |
| 08:07.24 | k-god | ridefree: That's I *F* on Linux. ipconfig is that PoS XP box turning blue in the corner. |
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| 08:07.56 | k-god | ridefree: My bad... |
| 08:08.13 | k-god | ridefree: Erm. No, I thought I was wrong, but I was mistaken.... ;-) |
| 08:08.31 | simonrvn | you wrong in you're thinking that you wrong |
| 08:08.36 | simonrvn | you were* |
| 08:08.36 | yann__ | sorry for my english but i'm french: i've a problem, when i'm under x window alt, altgr and shift keys don't working |
| 08:08.45 | ridefree | k-god: no wories.. yeah i thot u just made a typo :) |
| 08:09.07 | k-god | ridefree: if == interface. |
| 08:09.16 | k-god | ridefree: You're configuring interfaces, not IP. |
| 08:09.25 | k-god | yann__: What's your X keymap? |
| 08:09.43 | yann__ | k-god: xfree86 |
| 08:10.01 | nk^admnin | hm. which company is actually the developer of symbian os? |
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| 08:10.11 | h2k | hi |
| 08:10.22 | paknaald | nk^admnin: symbian :) |
| 08:10.35 | nk^admnin | paknaald: well - sounds concluding, heh |
| 08:10.40 | paknaald | nk^admnin: thats a consortium of nearly all mobile phone makers |
| 08:10.40 | h2k | i updated my deb unstable yesterday and now gtk apps segfault. is gtk broken? |
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| 08:10.58 | nk^admnin | paknaald: ah, i see! so some coders from nokia, some from sony and so on... |
| 08:11.06 | k-god | yann__: Um. No. |
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| 08:11.23 | k-god | nk^admnin: It's a coalition. There's no one owner. Or wasn't initially. |
| 08:11.25 | paknaald | nk^admnin: afaik not that way. some millions from nokia, sony and so on ;) |
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| 08:11.43 | oskie | is slashdot down? |
| 08:11.57 | SlayerXP | oskie: I'd have to look to find out |
| 08:12.05 | paknaald | nk^admnin: nokia made an offer for all the stocks, but all the other companies invested more so there still is no major stockholder |
| 08:12.07 | Coke | Hello all. It's been ages since I used a CD burner and I'm planning on buying a DVD burner. I use the 2.6 kernel, is it still the same solution to emulate SCSI for IDE burners? |
| 08:12.07 | nk^admnin | paknaald: ahhh, i see. so we could say that nokia dictates how - or let's say in which direction it's developed? |
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| 08:12.15 | wind2 | hi there |