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| 00:01.15 | joh | is /etc/modprobe.devfs only used on systems with devfs? |
| 00:01.39 | niaht | joh: Appears to be so. |
| 00:01.46 | joh | niaht: ok, thanks. |
| 00:02.29 | tictac | blah. |
| 00:02.37 | [ML]Shitman|Inst | cant connect to the net :| |
| 00:03.03 | niaht | [ML]Shitman|Inst: did you run /etc/init.d/networking restart? |
| 00:03.23 | [ML]Shitman|Inst | where do i need to run it and how |
| 00:03.27 | xerxes1979 | mount -o loop -t iso9660 /path/to/iso /mount/point |
| 00:03.49 | expose | [ML]Shitman|Inst: type "su -c /etc/init.d/networking restart" |
| 00:03.55 | niaht | [ML]Shitman|Inst: On the command line. Type '/etc/init.d/networking resart' (without the quotes) |
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| 00:04.22 | niaht | ehehe.. I'm assuming he is root.. (would we be surprised?) |
| 00:04.32 | expose | niaht: hehe |
| 00:04.56 | xerxes1979 | Hello. I cant mount 2 specific .iso files because it keeps telling me to specify the filesystem. How do I know which filesystem ? (The other .iso I just mount by : mount -o loop ...isofile /mnt/iso |
| 00:05.13 | expose | xerxes1979: type "man mount" |
| 00:05.20 | xerxes1979 | :) |
| 00:05.33 | xerxes1979 | trying hard to look smart expose ? |
| 00:05.34 | [ML]Shitman|Inst | niaht: what do i need to type on host name @ install? |
| 00:05.36 | expose | xerxes1979: maybe the file is broken? |
| 00:05.53 | xerxes1979 | expose, well there are 3 of them |
| 00:06.00 | niaht | xerxes1979: .iso files are only iso files.. so they won't be a different format. YOu can try 'file myiso.iso' to check to see if it is indeed a .iso file for real. |
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| 00:06.09 | azeem | [ML]Shitman|Inst: the name of your box |
| 00:06.20 | azeem | [ML]Shitman|Inst: do you get your network setup via DHCP? |
| 00:06.26 | [ML]Shitman|Inst | yes |
| 00:06.54 | niaht | xerxes1979: chances are your iso files are bungled up. |
| 00:07.10 | expose | why do c++ libs get the suffix "mm"? |
| 00:07.14 | azeem | [ML]Shitman|Inst: why is your hostname so important then? Does your DHCP server does this? |
| 00:07.24 | [ML]Shitman|Inst | i dont know |
| 00:07.31 | xerxes1979 | niaht, what would a iso file say ? myfile: iso ? |
| 00:07.33 | azeem | expose: instead of c-- I think |
| 00:07.44 | azeem | expose: as in glade--, gnome--, etc. |
| 00:07.59 | niaht | [ML]Shitman|Inst: Then don't worry about it.. Your hostname is 'hostname' (e.g. type hostname at a prompt) |
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| 00:08.19 | tictac | stupid gtk-theme-switch |
| 00:08.21 | tictac | :| |
| 00:08.21 | expose | azeem: ah, okay. i see. |
| 00:09.09 | niaht | xerxes1979: doh.. actually, it just says data.. sorry.. |
| 00:09.11 | xerxes1979 | niaht, file myfile.iso: data Is that correct or what ? |
| 00:09.15 | xerxes1979 | ok |
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| 00:09.25 | dessaix|zz | niaht: after im done with menuconfig, how to do i compile it or whatever |
| 00:10.12 | niaht | dessaix|zz: Just exit menuconfig.. it will then begin to compile. |
| 00:10.40 | stigge | Im about to install a shell user machine and wonder what chmod I should have to get the best security |
| 00:10.45 | shinguz | niaht: wouldnt it need make-kpkg kernel_image? |
| 00:11.01 | [ML]Shitman|Inst | niaht, i typed hostname "koffer" ( dutch word ) in my install, is that bad? |
| 00:11.03 | dessaix|zz | niaht: niaht hmm i did it just went back to /usr/src/linux after 1 second |
| 00:11.19 | niaht | shinguz: Yes, but that is what he (supposedly) ran |
| 00:11.33 | niaht | dessaix|zz: No messages? |
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| 00:11.45 | dessaix|zz | niaht: i choose save configuration to an alt file" ? |
| 00:11.48 | shinguz | make menuconfig, exit menuconfig, make-kpkg kernel_image |
| 00:11.51 | niaht | [ML]Shitman|Inst: Your hostname has no affect on your ability to network |
| 00:11.59 | [ML]Shitman|Inst | weird |
| 00:12.07 | niaht | shinguz: make-kpkg --config=menuconfig kernel-image |
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| 00:12.12 | shinguz | k |
| 00:12.16 | [ML]Shitman|Inst | then what could it be that i cant get to the net? |
| 00:12.35 | joh | argh, I don't understand why the 'agpgart' module gets loaded! I've removed it from /etc/modprobe.d/aliases and added it to /etc/hotplug/blacklist but it's still being loaded! I've greped for 'agpgart' in /etc but only /etc/modprobe.d/aliases and /etc/modprobe.devfs contains it.. any ideas? |
| 00:12.35 | azeem | [ML]Shitman|Inst: can you ping your router/gateway? |
| 00:12.40 | niaht | [ML]Shitman|Inst: Not sure. I could only tell you that if I knew everything about your setup. |
| 00:12.58 | [ML]Shitman|Inst | what do u want to know about it :) |
| 00:12.58 | niaht | joh: Don't compile the module into your kernel. |
| 00:13.15 | joh | niaht: it's compiled as a module, not into the kernel... |
| 00:13.21 | niaht | [ML]Shitman|Inst: Well.. first off, how do you get your IP address? DHCP, or staticly assigned? |
| 00:13.31 | niaht | joh: Don't compile it at all. |
| 00:13.31 | [ML]Shitman|Inst | dhcp |
| 00:13.35 | joh | niaht: I could just remove it from /lib/modules/`uname -r` though.. |
| 00:13.39 | [ML]Shitman|Inst | in router and modem dhcp |
| 00:13.50 | niaht | [ML]Shitman|Inst: You using ethernet (e.g. eth0) |
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| 00:14.15 | niaht | joh: probably. |
| 00:14.23 | [ML]Shitman|Inst | i have 2 networkcards in it, a onboard and a pci the cahle is in the pci |
| 00:14.36 | [ML]Shitman|Inst | cable* |
| 00:14.55 | niaht | [ML]Shitman|Inst: Ok.. which interface is the PCI card? eth0, eth1 |
| 00:14.59 | dessaix|zz | niaht: ok i did a make-kpkg kernel-image now what |
| 00:15.13 | niaht | dessaix|zz: Did it do a bunch of compiling? |
| 00:15.15 | [ML]Shitman|Inst | i dont know |
| 00:15.33 | dessaix|zz | niaht: yes |
| 00:15.37 | shinguz | [ML]Shitman|Inst: as root, do ifconfig |
| 00:15.44 | shinguz | and check what it says |
| 00:15.54 | dessaix|zz | niaht: is that all or how do i check |
| 00:16.04 | niaht | dessaix|zz: Look in /usr/src there should be a .deb file there. |
| 00:16.12 | rich_ | afcpack Someone probably tole you it was hard to install. Or that it was only for smart people. Thats the two biggest critisisms from people who never tried |
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| 00:16.15 | dessaix|zz | ls -l |
| 00:16.16 | [ML]Shitman|Inst | internet ip: 127.0.0.1 |
| 00:16.18 | niaht | dessaix|zz: Specific to the kernel you just compiled |
| 00:16.21 | dessaix|zz | haha |
| 00:16.29 | [ML]Shitman|Inst | link encap: local loopback |
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| 00:16.45 | niaht | [ML]Shitman|Inst: No eth0 or eth1 entry? |
| 00:16.55 | [ML]Shitman|Inst | nope |
| 00:16.56 | [ML]Shitman|Inst | nowhere |
| 00:16.58 | [ML]Shitman|Inst | :S |
| 00:17.14 | niaht | [ML]Shitman|Inst: What specific brand of card do you have? Intel, 3com? |
| 00:17.25 | niaht | [ML]Shitman|Inst: specificly the PCI card. |
| 00:17.31 | dessaix|zz | niaht: yes i a see a soemthing .deb |
| 00:17.50 | niaht | dessaix|zz: kernel-image-2.6.7.deb ? |
| 00:17.51 | [ML]Shitman|Inst | it has a realtek chip, its from the old safeway that is now called Sweex |
| 00:18.24 | niaht | [ML]Shitman|Inst: Well.. go figure out which driver it needs. Use modconf to load it. |
| 00:18.28 | dessaix|zz | niaht: kerne;-image-2.6.6.6_10.00.Custom_i386.deb |
| 00:18.41 | niaht | dessaix|zz: Did you just compile 2.6.6? |
| 00:19.00 | [ML]Shitman|Inst | niaht, it runs just normally in damnsmalllinux ... but here it doesnt |
| 00:19.18 | niaht | [ML]Shitman|Inst: Sorry, I can't account for that. |
| 00:19.24 | dessaix|zz | niaht: supposed to be 2.6.7 instead but whatever i guess. what do i do next |
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| 00:19.33 | [ML]Shitman|Inst | what do you mean? |
| 00:19.38 | stigge | Im about to install a shell user machine and wonder what chmod I should have to get the best security |
| 00:19.48 | shinguz | ml, you have to modconf the module for the nic in place |
| 00:19.54 | niaht | dessaix|zz: ehehe.. well.. if you *really* want to.. dpkg -i kernel-whatever.deb |
| 00:20.09 | niaht | dessaix|zz: that will install the kernel |
| 00:20.14 | shinguz | dessaix|zz: ...and cross your fingers... |
| 00:20.14 | [ML]Shitman|Inst | shinguz, how? ( noob @ linux... :$ ) |
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| 00:20.29 | niaht | [ML]Shitman|Inst: You need to know which driver you need first. |
| 00:20.32 | shinguz | in a terminal, go root and type modconf |
| 00:20.46 | [ML]Shitman|Inst | where can i get to know? |
| 00:20.54 | afcpack | rich: it was a bit daunting... I'd tried last summer to install drivers for my nvidia card... never worked... pkg selection was a bear... |
| 00:21.23 | niaht | [ML]Shitman|Inst: Don't know. I don't know anything about your card. I use Intel and 3com only.. |
| 00:21.28 | afcpack | now I've got nvidia drivers, soun, and eved dvd playback :) |
| 00:21.31 | afcpack | even |
| 00:21.32 | shinguz | ml, i usually just crack the computer open before installation and visually check what is in there... |
| 00:21.39 | afcpack | and sound :) |
| 00:21.45 | green-earz | ML]Shitman|Inst: check out it may be of help http://www.resnet.ubc.ca/support/nicDebian/debian-network.html |
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| 00:21.57 | [ML]Shitman|Inst | shinguz |
| 00:22.01 | [ML]Shitman|Inst | i made that pc myself.. |
| 00:22.07 | [ML]Shitman|Inst | its in a suitcase :D |
| 00:22.08 | dessaix|zz | niaht: its done, back at /usr/src |
| 00:22.17 | niaht | [ML]Shitman|Inst: Good luck then. |
| 00:22.24 | rich_ | afcpack hmm. Do other dists have vidia drivers? I dont know why people think debian is more difficult to install than other dists. I think they are wrong. |
| 00:22.25 | shinguz | in that case, unlock the suitcase and see what sit in there ;) |
| 00:22.25 | [ML]Shitman|Inst | thnx m8 |
| 00:22.31 | niaht | dessaix|zz: It asked you about lilo? |
| 00:22.35 | rich_ | nvidia |
| 00:22.40 | dessaix|zz | no |
| 00:22.42 | [ML]Shitman|Inst | not much to see on the card |
| 00:22.50 | niaht | dessaix|zz: Ok.. you lost me then. |
| 00:23.00 | jetscreamer | hey let me make sure i have this right: my debian box doesn't really care which hd partition it's on as long as the bootloader can find / , right? |
| 00:23.07 | dessaix|zz | niaht: "Updating /boot/grub/menu.lst .. done" was the last thing |
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