| 00:00.03 | deadcat | (= |
| 00:00.17 | simonrvn | MyWifeIs18_: no |
| 00:00.21 | mwilson | MyWifeIs18_: In the time you're parroted the question, you could have run it a dozen times, and then you would know. |
| 00:00.23 | cdevidal | crappykernel: perhaps you have some cruft on the partition table |
| 00:00.24 | PerfDave | mwilson: Nah, KDE's the only decent WM for Linux. |
| 00:00.26 | simonrvn | what a dumb nick |
| 00:00.33 | Phated | PerfDave: Eeew, no. |
| 00:00.35 | cafuego | scarynetworkguy: For people who share the machine and have one KDE person and a Gnome person? |
| 00:00.38 | mwilson | PerfDave: When did KDE become a window manager? |
| 00:00.39 | abrotman | mwilson: i think on woody it only instlals kde |
| 00:00.45 | cdevidal | PerfDave: you wanna start a WM war, don't you |
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| 00:00.52 | mwilson | abrotman: No, it installs Gnome as well. |
| 00:00.57 | crappykernel | cdevidal, yes i did that already |
| 00:01.02 | macewan | howto reinstall an app with apt-get??? |
| 00:01.06 | scarynetworkguy | cafuego: I guess. |
| 00:01.09 | cdevidal | crappykernel: sorry, dunno then |
| 00:01.10 | simonrvn | macewan: man apt-get |
| 00:01.15 | crappykernel | it looked fine until I rebooted, and then it didn't even boot off the hdd |
| 00:01.18 | cafuego | OUCH!!!! |
| 00:01.19 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: We know. :) |
| 00:01.31 | cdevidal | crappykernel: didja check the linux-laptop.net page? |
| 00:01.32 | PerfDave | cdevidal: No need for a war, I know I'm right ;) |
| 00:01.34 | Phated | cafuego: ? |
| 00:01.41 | crappykernel | nope :) |
| 00:01.44 | simonrvn | cafuego: ouch |
| 00:01.54 | Phated | cafuego: Good luck, my friend. :) Happy bandwidth. |
| 00:01.55 | cdevidal | PerfDave: haha whateva |
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| 00:01.56 | deadcat | cafuego: been lazy lately eh? |
| 00:01.57 | cafuego | there goes another half hour down the drain ;-) |
| 00:02.00 | simonrvn | cafuego is on a slow link... :/ |
| 00:02.00 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: :) |
| 00:02.10 | cafuego | deadcat: Shhh, been using windows lately, actually. |
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| 00:02.13 | mwilson | I think I did my Sarge box last month sometime. |
| 00:02.14 | deadcat | (= |
| 00:02.15 | toresbe | cafuego: It's not downthe drain, it's fun. |
| 00:02.22 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: :) |
| 00:02.24 | sussudio | !do mwilson's sarge box |
| 00:02.25 | simonrvn | cafuego: you bad boy you |
| 00:02.28 | PerfDave | cafuego: My machines do dist-upgrade --download-only in a cron job to avoid this :) |
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| 00:02.47 | cafuego | PerfDave: Yeah, that's highly useless if you're not running Linux, eh? |
| 00:02.47 | simonrvn | @lart Sinisterr for IRCing as R00t |
| 00:02.50 | Phated | cafuego: Blasphemy! |
| 00:02.51 | mwilson | Contrary to popular belief, even lusers won't die if they don't update Sid every hour, on the hour. |
| 00:02.54 | Phated | !damn cafuego |
| 00:03.02 | niaht | Someday we will all have FTTP |
| 00:03.09 | simonrvn | fttp? |
| 00:03.14 | PerfDave | cafuego: Well, if you're not running Debian, you deserve everything you get ;) |
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| 00:03.17 | deadcat | i do apt-get update && apt-get upgrade when ever i am bored. |
| 00:03.19 | Phated | !damn cafuego for running Windows too much |
| 00:03.20 | cdevidal | KEWL Simpsons is on... shewt it's a rerun |
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| 00:03.26 | simonrvn | fucked too the-freaking protocol? |
| 00:03.27 | niaht | Fiber-To-The-Premises |
| 00:03.33 | simonrvn | haha |
| 00:03.43 | mhall | wtf is this ravenbird bot? it seems dumb |
| 00:03.47 | Phated | Fucking Tea Timer Protocol |
| 00:03.48 | cafuego | Well, if linux had decent ASP support I wouldn';t have to, now would I? |
| 00:03.50 | PerfDave | cafuego: Note the --download-only - it gets the packages, but doesn't install. and my dual-boot has a cronjob @reboot for it :) |
| 00:03.52 | niaht | call Verizon, ask them when they will install FTTP to your home.. :) |
| 00:03.56 | simonrvn | @kick mhall |
| 00:04.11 | cafuego | @maple syrup |
| 00:04.31 | mhall | yeah, that bot is definitely a little on the dumb site, especially the root part |
| 00:04.32 | scarynetworkguy | urge to kill increasing |
| 00:04.35 | cafuego | Hmm I lied, 45 mins, not 30. |
| 00:04.56 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Kill kill kill kill kill kill kill kill kill. |
| 00:05.01 | cdevidal | niaht: removing and re-adding them seems to have helped |
| 00:05.02 | mhall | has anybody got some tips on getting tetex to quit crashing during the dpkg configure sequence |
| 00:05.06 | deadcat | scarynetworkguy: you're one crazy mother fucker. |
| 00:05.11 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: somebody said "Verizon" |
| 00:05.12 | simonrvn | mhall: um, public is disabled... still alerts them. imagine having 3 bots saying ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT has landed! |
| 00:05.25 | simonrvn | mhall: you're the dumbass in this case |
| 00:05.26 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: *gasp* |
| 00:05.27 | scarynetworkguy | deadcat: you deal with Verizon and see if you don't want to do murder :) |
| 00:05.42 | deadcat | scarynetworkguy: HAHAHAHAHAAHAH |
| 00:05.43 | niaht | cdevidal: Ok.. cool. |
| 00:05.46 | mhall | simonrvn public is not disabled |
| 00:05.51 | simonrvn | mhall: nohup ? :P |
| 00:05.53 | cafuego | simonrvn: sgeigerbot, sgeigerbot, dpkg and who else? |
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| 00:06.12 | nekrataal | hello |
| 00:06.13 | simonrvn | mhall: um, yes it is. i should know |
| 00:06.26 | scarynetworkguy | deadcat: last week we had not one not two but no fewer thatn 3 frame circuits go down. Took them an average of 36 hours to get them up. :( |
| 00:06.30 | simonrvn | cafuego: discounting the fake bot, dpkg, apt, ravenbird |
| 00:06.33 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: yea it's pretty bad |
| 00:06.35 | deadcat | nekrataal: hi. welcome to the channel. what can we do for/to you? |
| 00:06.38 | niaht | Yeah.. I hate Verizon too. |
| 00:06.41 | nekrataal | i have a question, what should i do so GRUB boot my Windows XP installed on /dev/hda5? |
| 00:06.42 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: I can tell. :) |
| 00:06.47 | cafuego | I like nachos. |
| 00:06.49 | Phated | deadcat: There's no for/ in there. |
| 00:06.53 | Phated | ;) |
| 00:07.00 | nekrataal | i have never used grub, i used lilo... |
| 00:07.03 | deadcat | (= |
| 00:07.04 | mhall | simonrvn well forgive me if i'm mistaken but it was saying something about urinating on somebody for ircing as root befor |
| 00:07.09 | mhall | simonrvn before |
| 00:07.13 | simonrvn | nekrataal: same as for lilo |
| 00:07.21 | Phated | nekrataal: You're an idiot. Windows doesn't play nice if you install it on anything other than /dev/hda1 in your case. |
| 00:07.23 | simonrvn | mhall: i did that silly |
| 00:07.23 | mhall | simonrvn did somebody enter a command to get it to do that? |
| 00:07.30 | scarynetworkguy | nekrataal: look at /boot/grub/menu.lst and do what it says to do |
| 00:07.32 | deadcat | nekrataal: google has the answer to this. i know. i did that for a friend once. |
| 00:07.35 | simonrvn | mhall: scroll up :) |
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| 00:07.40 | mhall | simonrvn fair enough, but i still think that's in poor taste |
| 00:07.42 | nekrataal | Phated thanks for the insults.. |
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| 00:07.52 | Phated | nekrataal: It was only one. |
| 00:07.54 | simonrvn | mhall: for ircing as root? |
| 00:08.17 | scarynetworkguy | "The bitter is strong in this one" |
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| 00:08.38 | nekrataal | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:08.38 | nekrataal | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:08.38 | nekrataal | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:08.42 | mhall | simonrvn i don't think e-urinating on somebody is the best way to explain why it shouldn't be done, no |
| 00:08.47 | nekrataal | should i change the hd0,0?? |
| 00:08.54 | nekrataal | since windows is on hda5? |
| 00:08.55 | deadcat | nekrataal: hd0,5 |
| 00:09.02 | nekrataal | are you sure? |
| 00:09.07 | idnar | !mhallsmite ravenbird |
| 00:09.07 | dpkg | Fuck ravenbird. Fuck it in the asshole with a big rubber dick. |
| 00:09.08 | deadcat | or maybe 4 |
| 00:09.09 | simonrvn | mhall: 3 bots told them why, that was an expression of my frustration, nothing more |
| 00:09.13 | mr007 | hello, i have debian installed on my powerbook, could anyone help my sey up my FW external hard drive? I can access the linux partitions from mac os after installing ext2fsx, but the FW HD would not mount.... |
| 00:09.13 | cafuego | Phated: XP is fine with not running on hda1 |
| 00:09.27 | scarynetworkguy | hehehe |
| 00:09.37 | mhall | simonrvn i don't think i'll be able to agree with you on this, so i'm going to drop it |
| 00:09.39 | cafuego | Phated: I should know, I've been using it for WEEKS! |
| 00:09.48 | scarynetworkguy | cafuego: you poor soul |
| 00:09.49 | Phated | cafuego: Really? AFAIK, any Windows screws you badly if you don't give it hda1. My bad. But then... It screws you up anyway. |
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| 00:09.56 | deadcat | nekrataal: try 5. if doesnt work try 4. |
| 00:10.00 | nekrataal | i think is four, because Linux is on /dev/hda7 but on grub it says hd0,6 |
| 00:10.03 | cafuego | Phated: yeah, but that's a different story ;-) |
| 00:10.05 | expose | whats a two-way crypto-algorythm? |
| 00:10.09 | simonrvn | mhall: i'm just explaining why i did it, i'm not trying to get you to agree with me. that's all |
| 00:10.10 | Phated | cafuego: :) I know. |
| 00:10.14 | mwilson | Phated: No experience with anything since Windows 95, huh? |
| 00:10.16 | idnar | Phated: it has to boot off a primary partition, that's the only restriction I'm aware of |
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| 00:10.24 | Phated | mwilson: 98, actually. :) |
| 00:10.28 | Phated | idnar: I see, thanks. :) |
| 00:10.31 | nekrataal | ok, ill try.. |
| 00:10.35 | nekrataal | wich me luck.. |
| 00:10.35 | expose | whats different with it if compared to others? |
| 00:10.36 | mwilson | Phated: And you're making statements about what it can and can't do? |
| 00:10.39 | mhall | simonrvn i intended no implication as to whether or not i interpreted your remarks as you trying to get me to agree |
| 00:10.39 | idnar | well, this is 2000 / XP I'm talking about |
| 00:10.53 | Phated | mwilson: I consider myself grateful I didn't get XP experience. :) |
| 00:11.00 | cafuego | So, since it's now August 9, are the security updates for Debian 3.1 for Workgroups enabled? |
| 00:11.09 | Phated | mwilson: No, I'm running 98 in the XP age. |
| 00:11.29 | mwilson | cafuego: That was for real? Some insane person is actually going to provide security updates for Sarge? |
| 00:11.34 | simonrvn | mhall: ok, cool. i do see your point. and i would have regardless if they asked why not to do that. i may be an idiot, but i am smart idiot :P |
| 00:11.35 | Phated | XP = Xtra Pain. :) |
| 00:11.38 | cafuego | Phated: Well, shit though it may be, I must admit it's a lot less shit than anything that came before it, provided you disable that hideous default theme. |
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| 00:11.52 | deadcat | Phated: hehe |
| 00:11.58 | Phated | cafuego: It's the default theme that turned me off. Anything with an ugly default theme... |
| 00:11.59 | mwilson | cafuego: Uh, XP is a giant leap backwards compared to 2k. |
| 00:12.01 | Phated | deadcat: :) |
| 00:12.07 | deadcat | Phated: xtra pain in where? (= wink wink hahaha |
| 00:12.14 | toresbe | cafuego: Huh? why? |
| 00:12.14 | simonrvn | the ass |
| 00:12.23 | Phated | deadcat: *grin* Wherever you think. ;) |
| 00:12.28 | niaht | XP = a licensing scheme and cost schedule I am unwilling to bow to. |
| 00:12.31 | deadcat | Phated: always the ass.. |
| 00:12.33 | toresbe | Phated: Ever wonder where the XP came from? Tilt your head to the left. |
| 00:12.33 | cafuego | mwilson: I saw a release schedule timeline a week or so ago which mentioned a sarge security repository would be set up at or about august 8 for a september release. |
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| 00:12.43 | vapo | hello.. |
| 00:12.49 | Phated | deadcat: YEah, hence with the scratching, eh? ;) |
| 00:12.55 | deadcat | Phated: hahahahaha |
| 00:12.56 | Phated | toresbe: Good one. :) |
| 00:13.05 | cafuego | mwilson: Depends on usage, for gaming, w2k isn't the greatest. |
| 00:13.08 | mwilson | cafuego: Wow... considering there's no way Sarge will release in September, isn't that ambitious? |
| 00:13.14 | simonrvn | cafuego: something like it. debian-devel-announce, FYI |
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| 00:13.25 | cafuego | mwilson: Apparently it *will* release in semptember <heh> |
| 00:13.30 | mwilson | cafuego: So there'll be security updates for both stable and testing? How long will that go on? |
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| 00:13.40 | mwilson | cafuego: We both know it won't. |
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| 00:13.43 | toresbe | Phated: Or, "Ever wonder where the XP came from? Why, upercalufragulistic-XP-alidocious, of course!" |
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| 00:13.50 | simonrvn | mwilson: a year after sarge releases. then woody will get dropped |
| 00:14.05 | Phated | toresbe: *laughs* You're good. :) |
| 00:14.06 | cafuego | mwilson: Probably for as long as potato had support, once sarge is released, eh? |
| 00:14.09 | mwilson | simonrvn: Please actually read what I said, then respond to it. |
| 00:14.20 | toresbe | Phated: I have done my share of /. browsing ;) |
| 00:14.39 | simonrvn | mwilson: still doesn't change what i said |
| 00:14.39 | cdevidal | "If you play a Windows XP CD backward, Satan whispers to you." "Dude, it's worse than that! Play it forward and it installs XP!" |
| 00:14.39 | deadcat | (= |
| 00:14.44 | Phated | toresbe: Bah, /.; :) |
| 00:14.47 | scarynetworkguy | toresbe: better to admit to knowing about pr0n scripts than that |
| 00:14.51 | cafuego | mwilson: That's not to say I'm not changing my sarge pool gamble from 2004-13-1 |
| 00:14.52 | mwilson | simonrvn: Even though what you said has no relevance to the question I asked? |
| 00:14.53 | toresbe | cdevidal: HAHAHha aahHAHa :D |
| 00:14.55 | Phated | cdevidal: Nice, very nice. |
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| 00:15.07 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Yeppers. |
| 00:15.19 | _axel | how can i disable ipv6 in sid? my dns lookups really suck for some time now |
| 00:15.22 | simonrvn | mwilson: total relevance. you were talking about security updates, so was i |
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| 00:15.34 | PerfDave | I've been thinking about installing Win98SE in favour of Win2K for gaming. Not that it's at all on topic ;) |
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| 00:15.49 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: :D |
| 00:16.03 | offroadgeek | question - what package list should I use (in sources.list) if I'm running sarge? |
| 00:16.10 | Phated | I like 98 the best, but I always heard ME or 2k was slightly more stable. *shrugs* |
| 00:16.13 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: :) |
| 00:16.16 | deadcat | offroadgeek: testing |
| 00:16.24 | menteco | can an apt-get process (download of packages) be paused and resumed? |
| 00:16.31 | toresbe | menteco: Yep |
| 00:16.37 | toresbe | menteco: The download phase, anyways |
| 00:16.40 | deadcat | menteco: cancel and resume |
| 00:16.59 | toresbe | menteco: You can even pause the install phase, but it might get you trouble. |
| 00:17.01 | offroadgeek | deadcat: where do I find the correct url for that? |
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| 00:17.08 | deadcat | offroadgeek: apt-setup |
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| 00:17.28 | deadcat | menteco: apt-get install -f will fix everything. |
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| 00:17.49 | menteco | toresbe: to cancel apt-get is just control+c right? |
| 00:17.55 | toresbe | menteco: Yep |
| 00:18.04 | mwilson | deadcat: And he would need to use 'install -f' because...? |
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| 00:18.09 | offroadgeek | deadcat: thanks! |
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| 00:18.20 | zoya | does anyone know any linux friendly poker rooms online? |
| 00:18.20 | deadcat | mwilson: he fucked up apt-get? |
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| 00:18.36 | mwilson | deadcat: Except he didn't, of course. You don't actually know what that does, do you? |
| 00:18.44 | Phated | BUSTED! |
| 00:18.47 | deadcat | )= |
| 00:18.55 | toresbe | BITCH! |
| 00:19.03 | mwilson | Hrm, you can't re-open an archived bug. |
| 00:19.06 | Phated | toresbe: Good, very good. :) |
| 00:19.07 | mwilson | Damn. |
| 00:19.13 | mwilson | File a new one, or just let it go... |
| 00:19.20 | offroadgeek | deadcat: so I just pick any of the ones in the http or ftp list, and it will be a testing package list? |
| 00:19.40 | deadcat | offroadgeek: ya. check /etc/apt/sources.list to make sure. |
| 00:19.46 | toresbe | Phated: Huh? Just making notes on my Siemens 6-611 restoration project |
| 00:19.52 | offroadgeek | deadcat: thanks again |
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| 00:19.59 | zoya | i guess noone plays poker here... |
| 00:20.00 | toresbe | Phated: It's a text processing system from the 1970s |
| 00:20.07 | Phated | toresbe: Came at the right time. I was applauding your timing. :) |
| 00:20.13 | Phated | zoya: No, no one does. |
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| 00:20.30 | toresbe | Phated: Aha. |
| 00:20.34 | scarynetworkguy | toresbe: that is almost as week as my story :) |
| 00:20.36 | Phated | toresbe: Aye. :) |
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| 00:20.44 | scarynetworkguy | s/week/wak |
| 00:20.47 | pmcdonnell | I currently have dovecot and postfix setup to transceive mail from the user's mbox file, /var/spool/mail/USER. However, I'd like to convert them to the Maildir format. How can I do that? |
| 00:20.50 | scarynetworkguy | s/week/weak |
| 00:21.01 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: More believable, definitely more believable. |
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| 00:21.37 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: not *that* much more believable... |
| 00:21.42 | cafuego | pmcdonnell: You make postfix deliver to maildirs (via main.cf) and convert the current mailboxes to maildir 9there's a perl script) |
| 00:21.48 | _axel | sigh, no one knows how to disable ipv6? |
| 00:22.03 | cafuego | _axel: You don't load the module at bootup. |
| 00:22.10 | scarynetworkguy | _axel: what makes you think that ipv6 as anything to do with anything? |
| 00:22.22 | cafuego | _axel: You can't do it afterwatds, it's not unloadable. You *can* remove the ipv6 IPs though. |
| 00:22.30 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: More enough to be considered more. ;) |
| 00:22.32 | _axel | cafuego: yes, that much i know, but i cant find what file do i need to edit |
| 00:22.43 | toresbe | darnit! |
| 00:22.45 | cafuego | _axel: What file you ned to edit for *what* ? |
| 00:22.48 | _axel | messed up with modprobe.conf /etc/modprobe.d/ /lib/modules/modprobe.bla |
| 00:22.54 | _axel | to not load the ipv6 module |
| 00:22.56 | pmcdonnell | cafuego, I suspected that would be the case. One question, though. My users currently have a ~/mail directory, with contents like this: |
| 00:22.59 | simonrvn | pmcdonnell: maildirmake, mbox2md, and such tools |
| 00:22.59 | toresbe | I just peeked in the mirror and my hair is an aleph-null |
| 00:23.02 | pmcdonnell | [root@node0:/home/cbarnes/mail]# ls |
| 00:23.02 | pmcdonnell | INBOX.Drafts INBOX.Sent INBOX.Trash inbox |
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| 00:23.04 | deadcat | its in /etc/modules aint it? |
| 00:23.05 | cafuego | _axel: Check /etc/modules |
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| 00:23.15 | pmcdonnell | cafuego, is that a Maildir in the making, or something? |
| 00:23.18 | Phated | toresbe: :) |
| 00:23.30 | cafuego | pmcdonnell: No, that looks like squirrelmail automailboxes |
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| 00:23.44 | _axel | cafuego: my /etc/modules has no references to ipv6, only ide-cd, psmouse and nvidia |
| 00:23.46 | pmcdonnell | cafuego, Oh - that's likely |
| 00:24.02 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: cruel. You are going to hurt my sensitive new millenium sort of guy feelings. :) |
| 00:24.17 | cafuego | _axel: Then make a file /etc/modprobe.d/ipv6 and add "alias ipv6 off" in there. |
| 00:24.26 | _axel | ok |
| 00:24.38 | cdevidal | Does anyone know how to do something like this? echo "Telemarketer phone calls" > /dev/null && rm -f /mother/in/law |
| 00:24.39 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: -WHAT- my sensitive new |
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| 00:24.41 | Phated | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:24.51 | Phated | ? |
| 00:24.56 | deadcat | cdevidal: you just did. (= |
| 00:25.04 | cdevidal | deadcat: felt good too |
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| 00:25.06 | cafuego | cdevidal: yeah, cat /dev/knifedrawer > /dev/stomach |
| 00:25.07 | PHLAKey | 8<) |
| 00:25.14 | pmcdonnell | simonrvn, that standard location for maildirs is ~/Maildir, right? |
| 00:25.15 | mwilson | Wonder how long it'll take for Debian QA to actually get around to looking at it. |
| 00:25.22 | simonrvn | pmcdonnell: yes. |
| 00:25.29 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: The ones I keep in the jar on my desk. :) |
| 00:25.42 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Yeah, right. Keep thinking that, buddy. |
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| 00:26.11 | simonrvn | what? |
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| 00:26.36 | pmcdonnell | simonrvn, ok - then is there a way to use mb2md to convert all users automatically? Its looking like I'll have to go one at a time. |
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| 00:26.46 | simonrvn | pmcdonnell: for loop |
| 00:27.07 | cafuego | pmcdonnell: You cna bash script it quite easily; for user in /var/mail/*; do ....; done |
| 00:27.11 | shingoki | so um... the new installer... does it still ask you weird questions about packages no one ever uses, or is it comparable to say the suse or mandrake installers, in that it only asks you about stuff it needs to know? |
| 00:27.22 | shingoki | I've just been wondering whether to try debian again :) |
| 00:27.25 | pmcdonnell | simonrvn, cafuego, ok, sounds like a plan, thanks |
| 00:27.30 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: so you just ain't buying any of my stories today, eh? |
| 00:27.35 | deadcat | shingoki: it still ask those qs. |
| 00:27.38 | scarynetworkguy | shingoki: depends on what you tell it to do |
| 00:27.43 | Phated | Nothing can compare to the rubbish that is the Mandrake installer. |
| 00:27.55 | shingoki | ok then compared to the suse installer, which is great ;) |
| 00:27.56 | Phated | The RH installer is, however, not too bad. |
| 00:28.01 | cafuego | pmcdonnell: Don't forget to have a cd /home/$user in there |
| 00:28.02 | toresbe | Phated: I have infinite hair! |
| 00:28.05 | Phated | Never used the SuSE one. |
| 00:28.08 | deadcat | shingoki: suse installer is god. |
| 00:28.14 | Phated | toresbe: Oooky. :) |
| 00:28.22 | shingoki | I just remember before, debian asked all sorts of bizarre questions about apps I'd never heard of, so I gave up at about the 20th screen |
| 00:28.29 | shingoki | is the new installer going to avoid that? |
| 00:28.30 | toresbe | Phated: My (argh, what do you call the forehead hair?) is shaped like an aleph null |
| 00:28.32 | cafuego | The SuSe installer was okayish back in '99 |
| 00:28.41 | scarynetworkguy | silly rabbit GUI installers are for kids |
| 00:28.45 | deadcat | shingoki: ya. you shouldnt use debian. stupid installer. asking stupid qs. |
| 00:28.47 | Phated | toresbe: I call it the forehead hair. |
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| 00:28.57 | cafuego | toresbe: fringe, perhaps? |
| 00:29.04 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: toresbe bangs? |
| 00:29.07 | shingoki | I'm genuinely interested in whether the installer is quicker and easier now, I want to use debian |
| 00:29.09 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: I take offence to that, considering I -did- use the RH installer as a kid. |
| 00:29.11 | cafuego | scarynetworkguy: yes, she bangs. |
| 00:29.18 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: :) |
| 00:29.28 | toresbe | Phated: Anyway, I have inventively pinned it away from my eyes using a pencil, and when I took it out, lo and behold, a mathematical symbol. |
| 00:29.29 | shingoki | the GUI installer is an option in suse, the text mode one is still there too |
| 00:29.30 | deadcat | shingoki: nah. hard as hell. just like the previous version. stick with suse dude. |
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| 00:29.39 | volkadav | howdy. anyone had issues with mozilla in testing? it's been hanging on kb input for me lately. |
| 00:29.39 | toresbe | cafuego: He, thank you :P |
| 00:29.40 | _axel | ok, that worked, browsing does not suck any more :D |
| 00:29.41 | Phated | toresbe: Not bad, not bad at all. :) |
| 00:29.42 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: and it worked out for you... |
| 00:29.48 | shingoki | deadcat - ok I accept that you are much more intelligent than me and so I should not use your l33t OS |
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| 00:29.57 | _axel | thanks cafuego |
| 00:29.57 | shingoki | can anyone ELSE tell me if the new debian installer is easier? |
| 00:29.59 | deadcat | shingoki: ok. |
| 00:30.01 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Yes, I managed to get RH running the first time. |
| 00:30.01 | cafuego | shingoki: Yeah, it's much more streamlined. |
| 00:30.16 | Phated | shingoki: You waan an easy installer, go to RH. Debain is for masochists. |
| 00:30.21 | Phated | Debian* |
| 00:30.23 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: I've never been able to get RH to install.... :( |
| 00:30.26 | green-earz | shingoki: check out the link for sarge net installer http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/i386/ and the installer as come a long way forward |
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| 00:30.34 | toresbe | Phated: I am now testing different writing utensils, to see if I can get some differential equations or maybe some new and exciting theorems! |
| 00:30.35 | shingoki | cafuego - cool :) I looked through the screenshots, and there were just the screens I would expect, no bizarre ones, so I thought maybe it might be nice now |
| 00:30.43 | Phated | toresbe: Keep going. :) |
| 00:30.50 | cafuego | shingoki: The nastiest bit for newish users in the old installer was the partitioniing step, and that has been *completely* redone. You can pretty much tell it to autopartition now and that's all you need to do in the installer. |
| 00:31.02 | shingoki | RH may have an easy installer, but the end result is not really worth even the minimal effort |
| 00:31.06 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Oh, my god. And you got Debian? :) That's kind of odd, considering RH was like EASY! |
| 00:31.20 | cafuego | shingoki: I've tested it on ia32, amd64 and PPC, and they've all been fine. |
| 00:31.29 | Phated | shingoki: Debian installs are difficult for some, but the end result is so worth the huge effort. |
| 00:31.33 | shingoki | cafuego - I never had any trouble partitioning, I got all the way through to where it asks you lots of configuration questions about apps I had never heard of and hadn't asked to install |
| 00:31.34 | MightyMark | shingoki: no harm in trying it out, go for it. |
| 00:31.38 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: I don't know some karamic thing I think. |
| 00:31.52 | _axel | pity that it still looks like a 1996 textmode app |
| 00:31.52 | shingoki | In fact I think in the end I even managed to get through to a booting system, but couldn't get X started |
| 00:32.01 | deadcat | shingoki: if you select no to tasksel or deselect. theres no trick questions. |
| 00:32.04 | shingoki | textmode is fine, I don't need graphical, just concise |
| 00:32.11 | Phated | cafuego: Damn, they ave autopartitioning in Debian now? They're going the RH route AFA installers are concerned. Excellent. |
| 00:32.40 | green-earz | shingoki: remenber that was then so check out the new installer |
| 00:32.43 | toresbe | Phated: Hmm, out of space on /forehead. I shall wait for hair to grow myself wiser. |
| 00:32.45 | zinx | need auto-resizing of NTFS partitions! >:P |
| 00:32.48 | shingoki | I actually normally like to do partitions myself, unless debian auto partitioning uses separate /home partition, I find it irritating losing home directories when installing new OS |
| 00:32.49 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: yea the new sarge install disks can be pretty automated. Thank god they left all the tools in though |
| 00:32.50 | MightyMark | Phated: as long as the default is still the manual partitions. |
| 00:32.59 | mwilson | The Woody installer is so bloody easy to use, why do people have so much trouble with it? |
| 00:33.01 | Phated | toresbe: I have no bangs, sadly, so I can't try anything. :) |
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| 00:33.11 | toresbe | Phated: I also covet a UNIX guru beard |
| 00:33.14 | Phated | MightyMark: Yeah, I think it -should- be, or as long as they leave it in. |
| 00:33.17 | zinx | mwilson: they don't know what their monitor's sync rates are. |
| 00:33.18 | shingoki | green-earz - yup that was what I was checking, it will take me a while to install, etc. so I thought I would just check quickly if there was any point ;) |
| 00:33.22 | scarynetworkguy | MightyMark: defualt is auto but getting to manul only requires you to be able to read |
| 00:33.24 | Phated | toresbe: IIRC... Girl? |
| 00:33.27 | deadcat | mwilson: i agree with you.. woody isntaller is the best.. sarge isntaller blows |
| 00:33.30 | mwilson | zinx: Amazing how you don't need to know that, isn't it? |
| 00:33.31 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Coolness. |
| 00:33.46 | shingoki | if woody installer is better... I don't even want to be in the same room as the sarge installer |
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| 00:34.04 | zinx | mwilson: you do to configure X, or at least the configuration makes it appear like you do -- it's a stupid thing, anyway... but people are like that ;) |
| 00:34.06 | simonrvn | shingoki: try it first, then ask |
| 00:34.06 | mwilson | Woody's installer expects you to have two brain cells to rub together. |
| 00:34.08 | scarynetworkguy | and they "just work" on an amazing range of hardware |
| 00:34.25 | zinx | mwilson: yes, and most people don't. |
| 00:34.27 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: What? Just Working (TM) on DEBIAN? |
| 00:34.34 | shingoki | simonrvn - asking has taken 5 mins, thanks for help everyone... install would take hours just to get image etc. |
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| 00:34.46 | mwilson | zinx: Then what are they doing installing operating systems? |
| 00:34.48 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: shocking but true. :) |
| 00:34.51 | IOM_Detox | howdy folks |
| 00:35.03 | zinx | mwilson: they think they installed windows |
| 00:35.03 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: NO! My life is over... |
| 00:35.03 | simonrvn | shingoki: i meant woody b-f vs. sarge d-i |
| 00:35.03 | MightyMark | scarynetworkguy: whew that was close :) |
| 00:35.03 | IOM_Detox | anyone up for a question on mp3 files? |
| 00:35.03 | zinx | mwilson: because it came on their computer |
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| 00:35.07 | zinx | mwilson: and they want to 'get back at microsoft' |
| 00:35.18 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: think of the bunnies... :) |
| 00:35.19 | zinx | mwilson: at least, that's how i like to understand it ;) |
| 00:35.20 | simonrvn | IOM_Detox: you up for cutting to the chanse, and asking your question? :) |
| 00:35.24 | MightyMark | Phated: if they didn't, I'd have to seriously wonder about who made that decision. |
| 00:35.27 | simonrvn | IOM_Detox: chase even |
| 00:35.30 | shingoki | well... I'll give it a go when new version comes out, that's soon now? |
| 00:35.30 | scarynetworkguy | MightyMark: all in all pretty sweet code |
| 00:35.35 | Puppster | hi, i am trying to play a dvd on my new debian box, but i don't seem to have a /dev/dvd... any ideas? |
| 00:35.40 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Bunny bunny bunny bunny bunny bunny bunny bunny bunny bunny bunny. |
| 00:35.44 | simonrvn | Puppster: you create it |
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| 00:35.49 | greycat | Puppster: it's just a symlink |
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| 00:35.56 | Puppster | symlink to /dev/cdrom? |
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| 00:36.08 | mwilson | zinx: Did you read the latest moronic rant on newsforge about how Linux isn't ready for the desktop? It boiled down to how someone wasn't able to drool on the keyboard and get a WiFi card working. |
| 00:36.15 | green-earz | Puppster: or /dev/hdc ? |
| 00:36.15 | Phated | MightyMark: But damn it, Debian isn't supposed to Just Work (TM). It's supposed to involve large amounts of effort and tinkering. |
| 00:36.25 | IOM_Detox | I am trying to access a mp3 file on a webpage, and I cannot get it to play... am using mozilla and galelon,, anyone know how to get music to play via internet? |
| 00:36.28 | zinx | mwilson: like i say, people are stupid ;) |
| 00:36.31 | MightyMark | Phated: agreed. :) |
| 00:36.31 | mwilson | zinx: What does installing it have to do with whether it's "ready for the desktop" or not? |
| 00:36.35 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: cool :) |
| 00:36.35 | simonrvn | Phated: nah, it Just Works, *then* you tinker |
| 00:36.38 | shingoki | but...but... would be nice if debian was great to run AND easy to get started... |
| 00:36.39 | greycat | IOM_Detox: download it first. |
| 00:36.52 | Phated | simonrvn: Ahh, yes. |
| 00:36.54 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: :) |
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| 00:37.11 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: simonrvn and that is of course ideal. In particular if you build and tear down testbeds far too often. :) |
| 00:37.12 | zinx | mwilson: absolutely nothing at all, but people like to think they're smart... and when they can't do something, they like to blame it on the OS instead of their inability to understand what the heck they're doing. |
| 00:37.18 | mwilson | shingoki: It IS easy to get started. You just have to have a brain. Since most schools gave up teaching kids how to reason long ago, it's difficult for them. |
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| 00:37.23 | shingoki | I wonder sometimes how much luck these people would have getting wi-fi cards to work in windows. I know I've spent a hell of a long time trying to get stuff to work in windows |
| 00:37.23 | Phated | MightyMark: Exactly. You should fine-tune Debian to a smooth system, not expect it to be a RH install which did indeed Just Work (TM). |
| 00:37.26 | dabreegster | Half of the fun of Debian IMHO is tinkering around with stuff |
| 00:37.27 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Yep. :) |
| 00:37.34 | Puppster | hrmn, now it says dummy libdvdcss could not open device :( |
| 00:37.39 | shingoki | mwilson - I think you are confusing "reasoning" with "knowing the answers to lots of questions" |
| 00:37.46 | shingoki | same thing the IQ test people do ;) |
| 00:38.00 | simonrvn | some stuff is disabled on *purpose* so you don't shoot yourself in the foot, unlike RH |
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| 00:38.04 | mwilson | shingoki: Not at all. You can't call most college grads today reasoning beings. |
| 00:38.05 | Phated | dabreegster: Yep. :) |
| 00:38.12 | simonrvn | IOM_Detox: don't /msg me |
| 00:38.13 | zinx | mwilson: most people probably think in 10 years they'll be programming their computer themselves by dragging pretty 3d spinning objects around or something :/ |
| 00:38.21 | MightyMark | Phated: not only that, but it seems like "user friendliness" is inversely proportional to the customizability. |
| 00:38.24 | Phated | simonrvn: But then RH did just work, and I didn't have the Internet at the time, so no open connection. :) |
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| 00:38.32 | zinx | mwilson: and that's precisely as far as they've thought it through ;) |
| 00:38.32 | chalco | I'm looking to build a cluster in the next few months. is there any way I can donate part of the time to Debian? using for distcc maybe? |
| 00:38.35 | niaht | I hate.. repeat.. HATE.. initrd requirements for such thins as MD and LVM |
| 00:38.35 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: :) |
| 00:38.35 | Phated | MightyMark: Ref: Windows. ;) |
| 00:38.46 | mwilson | shingoki: Most college grads can't reason well enough to get from "I don't know how to do that" to "I should read the instructions". It never occurs to them. |
| 00:38.49 | shingoki | mwilson - well ok I agree the world is going down the pan... but I don';t think deductive reasoning actually made any difference to my debian install, I still didn't know the details of the app it was asking me about |
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| 00:39.05 | green-earz | Puppster: it looks like the is encrytion on the dvd libdvdcss the css bit ? |
| 00:39.07 | simonrvn | oh chatzilla, no wonder s/he quit |
| 00:39.17 | Evaso | hi anybody know how to abilitate joystick on 2.6.x kernel? |
| 00:39.22 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: :) |
| 00:39.26 | Puppster | green-earz, i'm not sure i understand |
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| 00:39.35 | mwilson | Ah, and now we have another one making up his own technical terms. |
| 00:39.39 | shingoki | mwilson - I'm sure that with a lot of manual reading and effort, I would have got through the install, but the effort I put in would have been to configure several things I didn't want to use. I didn't see that as a productive use of time |
| 00:39.41 | pmcdonnell | Hmmm... I'm trying to use mb2md to transfer my mbox files in /var/spool/mail to /home/USER/Maildir. I run this command, but I get this error: |
| 00:39.44 | pmcdonnell | [root@www:~]# mb2md -m -s /var/spool/mail/pmcdonnell -d /home/pmcdonnell/Maildir/ |
| 00:39.44 | pmcdonnell | Could not open /var/mail/root ! |
| 00:39.49 | MightyMark | Phated: exactly, but also RH and SUSE IMHO |
| 00:39.50 | Phated | mwilson: I rather like abilitate, though. |
| 00:39.52 | sussudio | !dict abilitate |
| 00:39.53 | green-earz | Puppster: are you trying to read a dvd ? |
| 00:39.54 | dpkg | could not find definition for abilitate |
| 00:39.56 | Phated | niaht: DO IT! |
| 00:39.56 | simonrvn | pmcdonnell: does it exist? |
| 00:40.04 | Phated | MightyMark: Aye. |
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| 00:40.08 | zinx | mwilson: i abilitate my joystick every day! |
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| 00:40.16 | shingoki | abilitate... cause to have an ability? |
| 00:40.18 | pmcdonnell | simonrvn, /var/mail/root? no |
| 00:40.21 | Puppster | green-earz, yes, but it is apparently having problems... xine says that encrypted dvd support is unavailable |
| 00:40.21 | abrotman | pmcdonnell: why not just run it as the user? doesn't that work? |
| 00:40.23 | simonrvn | pmcdonnell: oi, wait a minute |
| 00:40.28 | pmcdonnell | abrotman, nope |
| 00:40.31 | IOM_Detox | how do I play mp3 files through my browser? |
| 00:40.39 | zinx | IOM_Detox: set it up to send the .pls to xmms |
| 00:40.41 | pmcdonnell | abrotman, I get the same error when I run it as "pmcdonnell" |
| 00:40.44 | Evaso | activate support for joy is more English correct now? |
| 00:40.45 | zinx | IOM_Detox: i thought debian did that by default, though |
| 00:40.46 | IOM_Detox | ona website? |
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| 00:40.54 | simonrvn | pmcdonnell: sh -x that script, WTH does it get looking at /var/mail/root? |
| 00:40.57 | _axel | IOM_Detox: use The Force |
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| 00:41.19 | zinx | IOM_Detox: if it's an actual .mp3 link, instead of a .pls/.m3u, you may have to set it up yourself.. never tried one of those :/ |
| 00:41.22 | IOM_Detox | if it is default,, thn I do not know how to check it??? |
| 00:41.24 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: what does abilitate mean? |
| 00:41.25 | green-earz | Puppster: so have a look at dvd-backup and you then can make a copy with no encrytion on it |
| 00:41.35 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: DUnno. Sounds cool. :) |
| 00:41.38 | simonrvn | pmcdonnell: and yeh, abrotman's suggestion is good, it should be run as the user.. oops |
| 00:41.45 | zinx | IOM_Detox: just click it.. if it has "open with /usr/bin/xmms" or such, you know it's set up.. and it should be fairly obvious :/ |
| 00:41.46 | IOM_Detox | it is a web based voice mail |
| 00:41.47 | Puppster | green-earz, i have to make a copy of it first, before i can watch it? |
| 00:41.52 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: that it does. :) |
| 00:41.56 | dabreegster | IOM_Detox: whatever browser youre using, goto options and mime typs and set them to the player you want |
| 00:41.57 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: :) |
| 00:42.21 | mwilson | Why would anyone want a browser to play MP3 files? |
| 00:42.21 | IOM_Detox | ok,,, now,, mime types.... what do i pu in?????? |
| 00:42.33 | simonrvn | pmcdonnell: sorry... i'm a little slow today... |
| 00:42.33 | IOM_Detox | I am very new to linux so please be gentle |
| 00:42.36 | sussudio | IOM_Detox: tasso, fungo, serpente |
| 00:42.40 | scarynetworkguy | sweet god jesus above what the fuck was that |
| 00:42.53 | pmcdonnell | simonrvn, there's a fair amount of error, I posted here: http://pastebin.com/90244 |
| 00:42.53 | sussudio | scarynetworkguy: bunnies? |
| 00:42.54 | RichiH | mwilson: why do you judge each and every request by your standards? |
| 00:42.55 | greycat | mwilson: it's a dream come true for the content/copyright cartels. users have to go back to you every time they want a hit. |
| 00:42.58 | dabreegster | define gently. |
| 00:43.05 | simonrvn | IOM_Detox: be gentle? wth? no-one was insulting you |
| 00:43.08 | scarynetworkguy | sussudio: it looks like the bunnies typed it that's for sure |
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| 00:43.10 | niaht | Yay for RIO making an ogg capable portable digital music file player. |
| 00:43.11 | IOM_Detox | what do I put in the box for MIME type? |
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| 00:43.22 | scarynetworkguy | gentle is that what they call it these days? |
| 00:43.27 | RichiH | i am not saying i am in favour of that technique, but i kinda see a pattern, here |
| 00:43.27 | dabreegster | IOM_Detox: audio/mp3 or something. |
| 00:43.31 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: ^^^ |
| 00:43.35 | sussudio | !bugger n00bs |
| 00:43.37 | IOM_Detox | ok brb |
| 00:43.41 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: :) great minds think alike |
| 00:43.42 | Phated | Ooo. |
| 00:43.47 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: :) Aye. |
| 00:43.47 | simonrvn | pmcdonnell: that's a perl script |
| 00:43.54 | pmcdonnell | simonrvn, yeah... |
| 00:44.12 | simonrvn | pmcdonnell: so ignore my stupid suggestion w.r.t. sh -x ;) |
| 00:44.18 | mwilson | niaht: But who cares about OGG? |
| 00:44.27 | pmcdonnell | simonrvn, oh - sorry. What should I do then? |
| 00:44.29 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Do they hate you yet? |
| 00:44.30 | sussudio | ogg is teh 31337 |
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| 00:44.42 | mwilson | OGG is a total non-issue. |
| 00:44.49 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: I don't think so but they've only been in their house for a couple of days |
| 00:44.56 | IOM_Detox | ok ,, now how about description and extension? |
| 00:45.05 | niaht | RichiH: spend 5 or 6 days in here. |
| 00:45.12 | green-earz | Puppster: yes there is encrytion on it. or if you use mplayer it may get round it ? |
| 00:45.12 | simonrvn | pmcdonnell: run perl -d on it, hit ctrl-d to see where it's going |
| 00:45.31 | niaht | mwilson: I dunno, I can't speak for others, but I think its pretty nifty.. What's your preference? |
| 00:45.31 | Puppster | oh, i haven't tried mplayer yet |
| 00:45.32 | sussudio | mwilson: linux + ogg + mozilla = teh shit |
| 00:45.32 | shingoki | Why is ogg a non-issue? |
| 00:45.34 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Hahahaha. |
| 00:45.46 | shingoki | it's a nice codec that's free, sounds good to me |
| 00:45.49 | simonrvn | niaht: RichiH has |
| 00:45.58 | niaht | simonrvn: ahhh.. gotcha. |
| 00:46.18 | sussudio | shingoki: i find it a bit tinny in places. |
| 00:46.19 | niaht | simonrvn: any particular end of the stick? |
| 00:46.27 | Puppster | green-earz, oooh, i just got a libdvdcss from videolan.org and now it works through the encryption |
| 00:46.30 | simonrvn | niaht: the pointy one |
| 00:46.38 | niaht | simonrvn: I see. :) |
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| 00:46.45 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: yea give em some time they'll come around. :) |
| 00:46.49 | shingoki | I'm not a huge audiophile, I just go by the comparisons I've seen, that seem to rate Ogg highly |
| 00:46.52 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Aye, they will indeedy. |
| 00:46.54 | shingoki | it's certainly good enough for me ;) |
| 00:46.59 | RichiH | niaht: i have spent a year or two in here.. |
| 00:47.09 | niaht | RichiH: noted. |
| 00:47.13 | pmcdonnell | simonrvn, the last few lines of output are here: http://pastebin.com/90246 |
| 00:47.14 | RichiH | simonrvn: hi, btw :) |
| 00:47.24 | simonrvn | .ogg *is* a very good format. it's too bad not more people know about it |
| 00:47.31 | simonrvn | RichiH: hello :) |
| 00:47.33 | RichiH | simonrvn: true |
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| 00:47.44 | green-earz | Puppster: nice one sorry for leading you down a wrong path |
| 00:47.55 | scarynetworkguy | a good hardware base player would be nice |
| 00:48.01 | Puppster | green-earz, it's np! thanks for your help! |
| 00:48.03 | shingoki | I'm looking forward to widespread use of the ogg video format... not that THAT will ever happen |
| 00:48.06 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: A good anything would be nice. :) |
| 00:48.15 | simonrvn | pmcdonnell: what's lin 520 say? paste in #flood |
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| 00:48.34 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: true :) |
| 00:48.57 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: :) |
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| 00:51.06 | t-jack | Well who'da guessed my kernels would collapse and and I'd hafta re-install? |
| 00:51.14 | simonrvn | plop |
| 00:51.36 | scarynetworkguy | t-jack: that's what commiting crimes against nature gets you |
| 00:51.45 | t-jack | I think I'm finally through with Sid. |
| 00:52.01 | zinx | t-jack: try the sarge installer |
| 00:52.11 | zinx | t-jack: be sure to report any problems! :P |
| 00:52.28 | t-jack | zinx: Said installer is yours? |
| 00:52.44 | zinx | t-jack: no, but it needs testing ;) |
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| 00:53.13 | t-jack | zinx: Is it yet possible to just dist-up to Sarge? |
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| 00:53.24 | zinx | t-jack: yes, but it would be better to use the sarge installer |
| 00:53.36 | scarynetworkguy | t-jack: always has been |
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| 00:54.12 | t-jack | Better, only if I had the installer already, before I re-installed Woody. |
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| 00:54.47 | t-jack | scarynetworkguy: Sure... Sarge as Testing. I should've said Sarge as Stable. :) |
| 00:54.59 | scarynetworkguy | I swear the damned remote hides from me on purpose |
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| 00:55.35 | t-jack | scarynetworkguy: Dimensional-walking TV remote. :P |
| 00:55.40 | scarynetworkguy | OK who stole my remote? |
| 00:55.57 | zinx | scarynetworkguy: underpants gnomes |
| 00:56.01 | mwilson | grrr, stupid filerunner |
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| 00:56.11 | mwilson | No one's maintained the thing in forever. |
| 00:56.23 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: should have known it was you :) |
| 00:56.29 | scarynetworkguy | t-jack: some days it seems like |
| 00:57.11 | pmcdonnell | simonrvn, I might have fixed it, let me check... |
| 00:57.17 | simonrvn | ok |
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| 00:57.58 | toresbe | t-jack: It's stable, but it ain't Stable. |
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| 00:58.06 | scarynetworkguy | t-jack: you got months to go yet |
| 00:58.08 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Always is, always will be. ;) |
| 00:58.12 | t-jack | toresbe: Bah. |
| 00:58.23 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: at least I know who to blame. :) |
| 00:58.29 | pmcdonnell | simonrvn, yeah, it works - I had bad permissions of some files, which must have screwed it up |
| 00:58.45 | simonrvn | pmcdonnell: i see. cool |
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| 00:58.58 | toresbe | night all |
| 00:59.13 | cdevidal | Anyone know how to debug a package install? I only get "subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 10" which isn't very helpful |
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| 00:59.49 | kaloyer | can someone help me set up a mail server? |
| 00:59.49 | t-jack | scarynetworkguy: I guess I should count this the perfect opportunity to try those backport lists... But I did once and it was worse than Sid. |
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| 01:00.01 | toresbe | I'm off to bed. Night all!! :) |
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| 01:00.17 | bobik | jfc |
| 01:00.23 | scarynetworkguy | toresbe: night |
| 01:00.31 | t-jack | toresbe from Port Moresby |
| 01:00.34 | toresbe | GR00P HUG ^_^ |
| 01:00.39 | t-jack | Later |
| 01:00.41 | scarynetworkguy | if you can't have fun in the middle of a 4 day weekend when can you have fun |
| 01:00.52 | scarynetworkguy | Awwwwww |
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| 01:01.09 | toresbe | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:01.23 | mwilson | Hm, is there a simple SVG viewer? |
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| 01:01.51 | toresbe | mwilson: No, they are all extremely complicated and requires the knowledge of how to operate an IBM 650 blindfolded. |
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| 01:02.04 | zinx | mwilson: try rsvg-view |
| 01:02.04 | t-jack | I want nothing to do with his boxxor feve... |
| 01:02.13 | mwilson | toresbe: Well, they all either require using a browser, or using something like inkscape. |
| 01:02.22 | scarynetworkguy | and it helps if you can field strip a M-16 |
| 01:02.26 | toresbe | mwilson: I dunno, i dunno. |
| 01:02.41 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: :) I know a guy who can do that in 58 seconds. |
| 01:03.25 | t-jack | Phated: How long to clean and reassemble? |
| 01:03.25 | deadcat | Phated: do what? |
| 01:03.27 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: Pretty good. :) |
| 01:03.37 | zinx | mwilson: (part of librsvg2-bin) |
| 01:04.00 | scarynetworkguy | deadcat: field strip an M-16 |
| 01:04.09 | mwilson | zinx: Ah, thank you, I found it already. That does what I want, as long as I can get it to do other than this itty-bitty window by default. |
| 01:04.13 | Phated | t-jack: Dunno, never did ask him. Maybe it was total stip clean reassemble time, but I didn't clariry. |
| 01:04.19 | zinx | mwilson: hehe :) |
| 01:04.23 | Phated | deadcat: Field-strip M-16 |
| 01:04.30 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Aye. I'm proud of him. :) |
| 01:04.33 | deadcat | i dont know what field-stirp mean |
| 01:04.38 | pmcdonnell | OK, I got dovecot to serve mail from /home/USER/maildir, but postfix is still slopping it into mbox:/var/spool/mail/USER . What do I have to do to postfix to make it use maildir? |
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| 01:04.51 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: as well you should be. :) I never got below two minutes |
| 01:04.52 | zinx | mwilson: going to be stuck with --/-geometry, i fear |
| 01:05.15 | t-jack | deadcat: Take apart and clean and reassemble under extreme stress. |
| 01:05.21 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: :) |
| 01:05.23 | zinx | mwilson: looks like it's using the default gtk2 window size (100x100) |
| 01:05.32 | deadcat | t-jack: damn tahts crazy. i would just surrender (= |
| 01:05.43 | t-jack | HaHaHa! |
| 01:06.00 | Phated | I need to, really. It'd be so cool. |
| 01:06.06 | t-jack | Phated: Not you, deadcat |
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| 01:06.13 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: it's a good skill for a young lady. If you find any you could teach them. :) |
| 01:06.15 | deadcat | homer's motto "if you cant do it in 15 second, quit" |
| 01:06.18 | uiltz | how can I tell if I have oss loaded? |
| 01:06.19 | mwilson | zinx: Damn, it won't. |
| 01:06.27 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Exactly. :) |
| 01:06.45 | mwilson | zinx: Oh, I know how to control the window, it just seems silly that there's no way to cause it to scale to fit by default. |
| 01:06.45 | zinx | mwilson: :E |
| 01:06.52 | zinx | mwilson: aye |
| 01:06.52 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: :) |
| 01:07.09 | zinx | mwilson: it was made to demo the library :/ |
| 01:07.25 | niaht | *yawn* |
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| 01:07.59 | mwilson | zinx: I know. |
| 01:08.00 | t-jack | uiltz: If xmms plays under OSS plugin, you have the kernel modules properly inserted. |
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| 01:08.17 | uiltz | t-jack: well it doesn't |
| 01:08.21 | scarynetworkguy | :) |
| 01:08.23 | mwilson | zinx: Hm, I'd have it send the raster image to xv, but there's no way to get it to output it. |
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| 01:08.43 | zinx | mwilson: imagemagick's display will probably display svg's, after eating all your ram and swap |
| 01:08.57 | vapo | hello everyone.. |
| 01:09.04 | niaht | hi vapo |
| 01:09.08 | vapo | :) |
| 01:09.08 | t-jack | uiltz: I guess you don't, then. |
| 01:09.09 | deadcat | vapo: howdy |
| 01:09.16 | eQ | hello all :D |
| 01:09.17 | uiltz | t-jack: yep |
| 01:09.25 | deadcat | eQ: whatup |
| 01:09.31 | niaht | eQ: =) |
| 01:09.35 | eQ | :D<3 |
| 01:09.59 | mwilson | Hm, I didn't think imagemagick knew svg, but you are correct. |
| 01:09.59 | t-jack | uiltz: I forget the correct way to check that... |
| 01:10.17 | scarynetworkguy | mmmmmm ham |
| 01:10.25 | vapo | im using apt-cache and im not sure what i need.. i just want to be able to use .jar files.. java-common and java2-common seem the most relevant.. can anyone confirm this? |
| 01:10.51 | niaht | oooo.. IE 7.. I wonder how much work they did to ensure it won't run under crossover |
| 01:11.00 | uiltz | t-jack: it would be lsmod but it sorta shows |
| 01:11.09 | mrwill | niaht: IE 7 is coming out? |
| 01:11.15 | deadcat | Piggy is another bot. |
| 01:11.20 | chalco | who runs IE under crossover? |
| 01:11.22 | mwilson | hm, of course, display gets the scale wrong |
| 01:11.27 | Phated | IE 7? WTF! |
| 01:11.30 | eQ | lol |
| 01:11.37 | niaht | mrwill: eventually.. dunno exactly when.. |
| 01:11.40 | t-jack | scarynetworkguy: I love the smell of bacon and eggs, with a side of grits, in the morning... |
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| 01:11.42 | deadcat | !slashdot |
| 01:11.44 | dpkg | Slashdot Headlines (10 shown): MSIE 7 May Beat Longhorn Out The Gate ;; Ziff Davis To Website: You Must License To Link ;; The Unknown Newton ;; Passwords - 64 Characters, Changed Daily? ;; Deleting E-mail Could Get You In Trouble ;; Kansas AG Rejects Settlement Discs ;; Hackers As Factory Workers? ;; SciFi Channel To Air A New Galactica Series ;; Debian Installer RC1 Is Out ;; Why Wall Street Wants Google to Fail. |
| 01:11.49 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: :) |
| 01:11.59 | sussudio | !badgerdot |
| 01:11.59 | dpkg | badger ; badger ; badger ; badger ; badger ; linux ; linux ; badger ; badger ; badger ; SCO oooh! It's SCOoooo... |
| 01:11.59 | mrwill | niaht: ah, that's good, afraid I was going to have to make new stylesheets |
| 01:12.06 | niaht | mrwill: eek |
| 01:12.12 | eQ | XD |
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| 01:12.13 | idnar | sussudio: hah, nice |
| 01:12.23 | sussudio | =:-B |
| 01:12.27 | t-jack | uiltz: Yes, but there's a hackers' way that tells if the device is actually functioning, not just inserted. |
| 01:12.39 | uiltz | oh ok |
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| 01:12.43 | uiltz | lspci |
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| 01:13.39 | t-jack | uiltz: cat devstat... or something |
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| 01:14.26 | t-jack | !frown at scarynetworkguy |
| 01:14.37 | deadcat | attack Piggy |
| 01:14.54 | [ML]Shitman | !frown at [ML]Shitman |
| 01:15.07 | t-jack | greycat: Varified... xchat still randomly starves the bot. |
| 01:15.10 | scarynetworkguy | I would have thought a Phated bot would do something brow related. :) |
| 01:15.21 | mwilson | zinx: rsvg-view may be a gtk2 app, but it doesn't take a geometry argument. Have you looked at what it's linked against? Highly amusing. |
| 01:15.41 | t-jack | !frown |
| 01:15.41 | dpkg | :( |
| 01:15.45 | zinx | mwilson: hehe, gnome app |
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| 01:16.00 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: :) |
| 01:16.02 | t-jack | greycat: Maybe not... |
| 01:16.04 | sussudio | |:-` |
| 01:16.10 | mwilson | zinx: Yeah, explain to me why that needs to be a gnome app. |
| 01:16.15 | niaht | !phreak |
| 01:16.15 | dpkg | from memory, phreak is a mean G, who is normally smoked out on skunk/weed, and stands at 5'11", and has been on this earth for 16 and a half years, and been high for god knows how long |
| 01:16.18 | zinx | mwilson: no clue :) |
| 01:16.19 | mwilson | zinx: other than an idiot developer. |
| 01:16.22 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: :) |
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| 01:16.33 | zinx | mwilson: maybe it can print? :/ |
| 01:16.34 | niaht | hrm.. that is NOT *my* definition of a phreak |
| 01:16.35 | uiltz | and one other thing... for nfs when I mount a local share I get a lot of portmap: server localhost not responding, timed out and the RPC: failed to contact portmap, any ideas? |
| 01:17.00 | t-jack | !help |
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| 01:17.08 | mwilson | zinx: It can't. |
| 01:17.12 | niaht | !sos |
| 01:17.12 | dpkg | it has been said that sos is you fuckin' blew it |
| 01:17.15 | zinx | mwilson: right click |
| 01:17.20 | zinx | mwilson: it claims to here ;) |
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| 01:17.26 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: gotta love a good bot joke. |
| 01:17.34 | t-jack | !botabuse himself |
| 01:17.37 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Goota love it. :) |
| 01:18.01 | mwilson | Oh, wait... yes it can. |
| 01:18.01 | t-jack | Let's all stop the botabuse now... |
| 01:18.06 | mwilson | Why it needs to, I have no idea. |
| 01:18.07 | eQ | haha |
| 01:18.10 | eQ | brb, dinner |
| 01:19.14 | rupert | surely this is a faq, but how do I enable console framebuffer with a stock kernel-image kernel? |
| 01:19.18 | deadcat | has dmcrypt totally replaced cryptoloo? |
| 01:19.33 | deadcat | rupert: vga=791 in lilo or grub |
| 01:19.46 | rupert | deadcat: thanks |
| 01:19.52 | mwilson | annoying, but it'll do the job |
| 01:20.01 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: :) |
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| 01:20.28 | deadcat | mwilson: dont like rox filer? |
| 01:20.30 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: :) |
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| 01:20.49 | MrShea | n8 |
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| 01:21.03 | t-jack | OK Woody wants sex. I enter ksu synaptic and it watches some remote file. |
| 01:21.07 | locsmif | Is there a player for linux that can decode realplayer? I hate that crap, but I have no choice here... |
| 01:21.12 | locsmif | And better yet : RIP it? |
| 01:21.26 | Poprocks | locsmif, mplayer |
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| 01:22.08 | locsmif | Poprocks: many thanks :) |
| 01:22.11 | scarynetworkguy | locsmif: mplayer google on debian mplayer the first hit tells you how to build it with all the codecs |
| 01:22.14 | Guerin | locsmif: if you can play it, you can rip it |
| 01:22.15 | t-jack | This is scary... Woody's trying to fuck me... |
| 01:22.37 | bazz | i'm trying to run tasksel on a newly installed system... i changes all the apt lines to unstable and ran an update. now i get a bunch of errors complaining libqt2 is a virtual package... can i fix this? |
| 01:22.39 | niaht | what! did someone Brittish write devfs or something? |
| 01:22.40 | zignig | t-jack: that's what a woody is for you big silly ! |
| 01:22.41 | locsmif | scarynetworkguy: thanks :) Guerin, agreed |
| 01:22.55 | scarynetworkguy | locsmif: anytime |
| 01:23.09 | Guerin | bazz: why are you trying to upgrade to unstable if you can't resolve dependency breakage? |
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| 01:23.39 | Phated | niaht: I don't see anything wrong with that. |
| 01:23.56 | niaht | Phated: No.. nothing wrong with it.. |
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| 01:24.08 | deadcat | this guy has some funny scripts: http://www.desktop-linux.net/bashscripts.htm |
| 01:24.18 | vapo | are there any free online multiplayer games for linux you guys recomend? |
| 01:24.20 | bazz | Guerin: i usually can... but libqt2 doesn't seem to be provided by *anything*, at least according to auto-apt, so i was wondering if people here had any ideas |
| 01:24.21 | Phated | niaht: Yeah, so why the "what!" ;) |
| 01:24.21 | t-jack | zignig: If this keeps up I'll end up in Sid again, then -really- get fucked a month or so on when the kernel won't boot. |
| 01:24.37 | niaht | just bites me in the ass everytime I type /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disk |
| 01:24.37 | deadcat | its hell lot easier to type sudo halt then to write a script and put in /usr/local/bin/ that calls init 0 |
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| 01:25.03 | zignig | t-jack: heh , the trick with unstable is to get a big harddrive and get a rsync, before you upgrade..... |
| 01:25.22 | zignig | t-jack: every time , simple rollback backups. |
| 01:25.58 | t-jack | zignig: 40 gig ain't big enough. :( |
| 01:26.05 | Guerin | bazz: what's the error, specifically? |
| 01:26.16 | niaht | indeed.. but did they *have* to spell disk 'disc'? |
| 01:26.31 | Guerin | niaht: haha |
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| 01:26.36 | Phated | niaht: YES. |
| 01:26.39 | niaht | rofl |
| 01:26.43 | zignig | niaht: but it is 'disc' |
| 01:26.47 | bazz | Guerin: well, for example: kit: Depends: libqt2 (>= 3:2.3.1-1) which is a virtual package |
| 01:26.52 | niaht | !dict disc |
| 01:26.52 | Guerin | niaht: payback for americans swapping the e and r in theatre all these years |
| 01:26.54 | Phated | Errrrr... |
| 01:26.55 | dpkg | Dictionary 'disc' (3 shown; 15 total): something with a round shape like a flat circular plate ;; (computer science) a memory device consisting of a flat disk covered with a magnetic coating on which information is stored ;; 5. (Bot.) (a) The whole surface of a leaf. (b) The central part of a radiate compound flower, as in sunflower. (c) A part of the receptacle enlarged or expanded under, or around, or even on top of, the pistil.. |
| 01:26.57 | Phated | disc |
| 01:26.59 | ryty | any idea why my sda's don't appear in /dev? |
| 01:27.07 | Guerin | !info kit |
| 01:27.08 | bazz | Guerin: but if i apt-get install libqt2 i get E: Package libqt2 has no installation candidate |
| 01:27.09 | niaht | hrm.. that doesn't contain the reference |
| 01:27.10 | Phated | Guerin: Yep. :) |
| 01:27.15 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: :) not a good typo not at all |
| 01:27.19 | sussudio | !freudsmite Phated |
| 01:27.28 | Guerin | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:27.30 | deadcat | ryty: then were does it located? |
| 01:27.30 | scarynetworkguy | sussudio: Phated :)) |
| 01:27.32 | uiltz | how do I add a nolock option to a mount command? |
| 01:27.36 | Guerin | bazz: wtf is it? |
| 01:27.46 | deadcat | uiltz: -o man mount |
| 01:27.47 | ryty | deadcat, what? |
| 01:27.56 | bazz | Guerin: think it's part of kde... i get the same error for kpm, if that helps |
| 01:27.56 | Guerin | bazz: sounds like that app has been removed from debian, or changed to a different version, or something |
| 01:28.00 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Not a good one at all... |
| 01:28.01 | deadcat | 18:26 < ryty> any idea why my sda's don't appear in /dev? |
| 01:28.04 | niaht | disc <storage, spelling> British spelling of "{disk}", normally only used for "{compact disc}". |
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| 01:28.26 | niaht | amphi.. interesting nick |
| 01:28.28 | bazz | Guerin: and kdelibs3 |
| 01:29.10 | ryty | yes, what did you mean by "then were does it located?" |
| 01:29.18 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: I think that one needs to shipped off to bash.org :) |
| 01:29.27 | t-jack | niaht: Funny how Scandnavian scild and German schild and English shield are all pronounced the same... |
| 01:29.32 | deadcat | ryty: well its its not in /dev/ where does it go? |
| 01:29.48 | ryty | err, all the other sd*s are in there |
| 01:29.50 | Guerin | bazz: I expect all the K apps have ben updated to use qt3 - I'd be inclined to do a bit of reasearch as to name changes, and maybe just remove any apps which no longer exist, then reinstall whatever replacements have been made |
| 01:29.54 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Please do so. :) |
| 01:30.01 | Guerin | bazz: #debian-kde might also be of some help here |
| 01:30.03 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: I don't want to bash.org myself. :) |
| 01:30.10 | bazz | Guerin: yeah..... i'll futz around... thanks |
| 01:30.12 | niaht | t-jack: I can see it.. yes, interesting. |
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| 01:30.16 | amphi | niaht: it is? |
| 01:30.21 | t-jack | niaht: so with disc and dish... |
| 01:30.34 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: that would be ironic. |
| 01:30.38 | niaht | amphi: I just happened to name the server I just finished building 'amphi'. |
| 01:30.51 | amphi | niaht: heh - why, if I may ask? |
| 01:30.55 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Exactly. Go ahead and bash.org it, though. :) |
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| 01:31.38 | useruser | how do i get my pcmcia card to be ifup'd automatically on boot? |
| 01:31.44 | niaht | amphi: two reasons, one: it is the collection name for some products one of the companies I work for makes, and two: I liked the definition of the word for the purpose of this particular server. |
| 01:31.45 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: I would but I'm feeling way to lazy. :) |
| 01:31.53 | JoePenguin | useruser: man interfaces |
| 01:31.56 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Me too. :) |
| 01:32.07 | Guerin | useruser: man interfaces; make sureyou have your pcmcia and your nic module loaded before the network starts |
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| 01:32.18 | volkadav | anyone here experienced issues with mozilla in testing? |
| 01:32.27 | mwilson | Guerin: For cardbus, hotplug is usually involved these days. |
| 01:32.28 | useruser | JoePenguin: Guerin thanks |
| 01:32.29 | volkadav | tested it with regular and xft |
| 01:32.43 | volkadav | (responds ok to mouse input, keyboard input hangs it) |
| 01:32.50 | Guerin | mwilson: ecch, I hates hotplug |
| 01:32.56 | mwilson | Oh, that old thing. |
| 01:33.05 | volkadav | i tried searching on google and debian's bugtracker, but didn't find anything |
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| 01:33.11 | mwilson | Hangs it, or it doesn't accept it? |
| 01:33.22 | volkadav | mwilson, hangs it dead |
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| 01:33.38 | niaht | amphi: The server is a linux box that acts as a windows domain controller :) |
| 01:33.44 | volkadav | in the past restarting hotplug and/or X11 sometimes did the trick but that's not working this time |
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| 01:34.01 | mwilson | volkadav: You'll note that there's a slight problem with you saying that it's hung, yet it responds to mouse input. |
| 01:34.13 | volkadav | i'm starting to suspect it's gtk related or something, the default build from mozilla.org works fine |
| 01:34.22 | volkadav | mwilson, well, it accepts mouse input unitl it hangs ;) |
| 01:34.27 | mwilson | Hotplug and Mozilla. Exactly how did you come to that combination? |
| 01:34.40 | amphi | niaht: heh |
| 01:34.58 | volkadav | laptop |
| 01:35.01 | decker | hi guys. so I found a few bugs in the rc1 installer thingy. would the reportbug tool kinda be the standard way to report them? And also, I'm wondering what the name of the package is that I should put down if I'm reporting a bug with the installer? |
| 01:35.09 | mwilson | And what leads you to think it's GTK related, since both the Debian build and the mozilla.org build would be using the same GTK? |
| 01:35.21 | Guerin | decker: I believe they still accept installation reports |
| 01:35.21 | volkadav | i don't think the mozilla.org build uses gtk |
| 01:35.26 | volkadav | but i could be wrong about that. |
| 01:35.28 | Guerin | decker: askk in #debian-boot |
| 01:35.30 | volkadav | widget set looks motif-ish |
| 01:35.45 | scarynetworkguy | decker: look at the webpage and do what it tells you to do |
| 01:35.46 | decker | Guerin: k, thanks |
| 01:35.58 | Poprocks | mozilla.org build probably uses GTK 1.x |
| 01:36.16 | volkadav | i'll ldd it to see what that says |
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| 01:36.21 | dabeej | QUESTION!!!! |
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| 01:36.26 | dabeej | ok thnx |
| 01:36.33 | merlincorey | dabeej: ASKK!!!!! |
| 01:36.41 | dabeej | merlincorey, was kidding |
| 01:36.46 | volkadav | yep, mozilla.org's is gtk 1.2 |
| 01:37.00 | mwilson | GTK 1.x is hardly motif-looking. |
| 01:37.00 | scarynetworkguy | well that sucked |
| 01:37.01 | merlincorey | dabeej: me too, it's not like I want to answer it... |
| 01:37.09 | deadcat | (= |
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| 01:37.21 | Poprocks | mwilson: by default it looks like a more modern motif to me.. |
| 01:37.22 | mwilson | Maybe if your default GTK 1.x theme is somehow motif-like. |
| 01:37.48 | volkadav | my perception was that it looked motif-ish. *shrug* |
| 01:37.54 | volkadav | debian's build is gtk2 linked |
| 01:37.57 | volkadav | hrm |
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| 01:38.44 | dabeej | How do I get java working w/ mozilla in debian? Do I have to do it manually or does debian help you out a bit? |
| 01:38.46 | locsmif | spill coffee on the keyboard? :P |
| 01:38.49 | dabeej | That is my question. |
| 01:39.02 | deadcat | !tell dabeej about blackdown |
| 01:39.06 | scarynetworkguy | locsmif: not this time |
| 01:39.43 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: What is it, then? :) |
| 01:39.59 | droopy | Is there a file in /etc that exec issue? |
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| 01:40.23 | deadcat | droopy: no. issue as in /etc/issue? |
| 01:40.54 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: no clue. All of a sudden it crashed back to kdm. Granted I was playing with a evil WM at the time... That might have been it |
| 01:41.08 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: *GASP* Which WM? |
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| 01:41.36 | deadcat | *GASP* |
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| 01:41.39 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: If you -dare- say XFCE4... There is no threat bad enough that I can make. |
| 01:41.39 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: KDE :( |
| 01:41.40 | locsmif | explorer.exe *grin* |
| 01:41.44 | deadcat | hehe.. whats the "*" does? |
| 01:41.46 | stevewabc_Laptop | ? is there any reason Y my XF86Configure from Suse wont work in debian? |
| 01:41.57 | droopy | deadcat yes..I have a getty prog running a different login program when I log out it will only restart if I hit ctrl c, then it loads fine I think it is trying to cat my /etc/issue ?? |
| 01:42.02 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: nope XFCE4 is what I'm back in now. :) |
| 01:42.09 | stevewabc_Laptop | runing daul Montitors |
| 01:42.18 | merlincorey | stevewabc_Laptop: because your X-server version is different, maybe..? |
| 01:42.19 | Poprocks | stevewabc_Laptop: try "xf86cfg" |
| 01:42.21 | deadcat | droopy: ya. |
| 01:42.31 | Poprocks | dpkg: start a desktop war |
| 01:42.31 | dpkg | Be smart, use WindowMaker. |
| 01:42.40 | stevewabc_Laptop | k |
| 01:42.42 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: I like that one. |
| 01:42.43 | Phated | !start a wm war |
| 01:42.43 | dpkg | emacs sucks! |
| 01:42.43 | dessaix|zz | goodevening, i just recently installed sarge on my tiny laptop. is there a way i can change me resolution to 1024 768 even though debian is not lettign me go beyond 800 600 ? |
| 01:42.53 | deadcat | Poprocks: HAHAHAHA desktop |
| 01:42.54 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Thank you. *bows* |
| 01:42.57 | Guerin | as a wm, yeah, it sucks alright |
| 01:43.04 | stevewabc_Laptop | over all it should work then |
| 01:43.06 | goodtimes | dessaix|zz: will your lcd go that high on your laptop? |
| 01:43.09 | Phated | dessaix|zz: xf86config |
| 01:43.17 | Guerin | dessaix|zz: ever run it higher than 800x600 before? |
| 01:43.28 | Phated | Guerin: As a text editor too. The only thing I hear it doesn't suck at is coffee. |
| 01:43.31 | dessaix|zz | goodtimes: i could when XP was running |
| 01:43.33 | locsmif | droopy, might it be respawning too fast? else try looking at ps aux | grep -i ttyx (x being terminal number) |
| 01:43.33 | Poprocks | Window Maker is clearly the best |
| 01:43.55 | Phated | Eeeeew. |
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| 01:43.56 | Guerin | dessaix|zz: so tun dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and choose higher modes |
| 01:44.05 | Phated | Window Maker... :| |
| 01:44.13 | scarynetworkguy | merlincorey: you can always change |
| 01:44.14 | niaht | windowmaker was at linuxworld |
| 01:44.15 | Guerin | Phated: I see you've gone over to the dork side... |
| 01:44.19 | dessaix|zz | guerin: aww ok |
| 01:44.22 | Phated | merlincorey: I hear Blackbox was good. |
| 01:44.28 | merlincorey | scarynetworkguy: yar, but for some reason, I like blackbox :D |
| 01:44.30 | Phated | Guerin: If you mean the vi side, aye. :) |
| 01:44.30 | deadcat | i used to run wmaker. but the themes are kinna the same.. no matter what the fuck you do. the fucking buttons look the same. )= |
| 01:44.31 | volkadav | hmm. i tried another gtk2 app at random (gaim) and keyboard input worked fine |
| 01:44.40 | merlincorey | blackbox does just fine for me... |
| 01:44.42 | thomas_adam | There is only one WM. |
| 01:44.44 | scarynetworkguy | merlincorey: takes all kinds :) |
| 01:44.48 | Phated | deadcat: Fucking buttons... Hahahaha. |
| 01:44.51 | Phated | thomas_adam: HUSH. |
| 01:44.57 | Phated | !be thomas_adam barbie |
| 01:44.57 | dpkg | fvwm is sooo cool. Let's go shopping, teehee. |
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| 01:45.16 | niaht | back when I ran a bunch of windoze servers I loved that I could use WM instead of explorer. |
| 01:45.19 | droopy | What should it be set to?? |
| 01:45.25 | deadcat | dpkg: you stay the fuck out ouf this or i will rape you HARD |
| 01:45.25 | dpkg | bugger all, i dunno, deadcat |
| 01:45.27 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: that is the coolest thing I've seen in the last 30 minutes |
| 01:45.37 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Eh? |
| 01:45.40 | dessaix|zz | netscape |
| 01:45.44 | Phated | deadcat: Hahaha. |
| 01:45.45 | Poprocks | dpkg: who's your daddy? |
| 01:45.45 | dpkg | you are my daddy, poprocks |
| 01:45.47 | dessaix|zz | mt |
| 01:45.49 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: thomas_adam barbie classic |
| 01:45.54 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Ahhh, yes. :) |
| 01:45.59 | Phated | Fucking button... *giggles* |
| 01:46.02 | thomas_adam | scarynetworkguy: Oh, you! hehehehe. |
| 01:46.14 | scarynetworkguy | thomas_adam: hehehehe |
| 01:46.16 | deadcat | Phated: hhe. |
| 01:46.45 | deadcat | s/little/school/ |
| 01:46.47 | Phated | "Please push for fucking" Push push push |
| 01:46.47 | Phated | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:46.50 | Phated | :) |
| 01:47.01 | Guerin | wtf? |
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| 01:47.13 | merlincorey | I was just about to bitch at someone for a mass paste, when I realized I was looking in #flood... :/ |
| 01:47.20 | Phated | Guerin: Fucking button. Re deadcat's complaint about Wmaker. |
| 01:47.26 | Phated | merlincorey: Yes, you so. :) |
| 01:47.29 | Guerin | riiight |
| 01:47.51 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Oh, but of course. |
| 01:48.00 | deadcat | scarynetworkguy: change that to IRC |
| 01:48.09 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: not saying that it isn't funny. :) |
| 01:48.20 | niaht | off to dinner.. have fun kids |
| 01:48.20 | Phated | deadcat: No blame-shifting, I'm -only- on #debian. :) |
| 01:48.21 | merlincorey | I love how codemastr of unrealircd likes to tell people they spend too much time on IRC and need to get a girlfriend :P |
| 01:48.23 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: I know. :) |
| 01:48.26 | niaht | be nice to each other ;P |
| 01:48.27 | scarynetworkguy | deadcat: they have other channels? |
| 01:48.33 | deadcat | (= |
| 01:48.35 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: They DO? |
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| 01:48.47 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: according to deadcat I guess there are. |
| 01:49.03 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Amazing. *stunned* |
| 01:49.25 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: but it might just be something he made up. :) |
| 01:49.38 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Yeah, that's probably it... There -can't- be another |
| 01:49.43 | Phated | IRC channel... |
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| 01:49.54 | niaht_away | before I actually split, anyone have a suggestion on if I should use Samba from stable/testing or unstable? |
| 01:49.57 | Phated | I mean, how would the Net handle all the traffic? |
| 01:50.04 | t-jack | !barbie |
| 01:50.04 | dpkg | Reading the manual is HARD! |
| 01:50.12 | niaht_away | oops.. I mean stable, testing or unstable.. |
| 01:50.14 | t-jack | er! |
| 01:50.18 | Phated | !distro barbie |
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| 01:50.29 | Phated | Damn you, dpkg. You need more factoids. |
| 01:50.40 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: well clearly the whole thing would fall apart if there were |
| 01:51.02 | sussudio | !be gentoo barbie |
| 01:51.08 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Yes, precisely. The Net can't handle all the traffic, can it? And with all those other Java thingies to carry too... |
| 01:51.10 | sussudio | :-| |
| 01:51.29 | Phated | !gentoo barbie |
| 01:51.34 | Phated | :( |
| 01:51.35 | niaht_away | no? bummer :( ok.. dinner time |
| 01:51.44 | Phated | Dpkg requires more factoids. |
| 01:51.44 | dpkg | Phated: I give up, what is it? |
| 01:52.08 | deadcat | i was on my way to the picnix in milpitas yesterday with my friend and saw this girl driving her fixed up honda. noisy as hell and i started laughing my ass off and kept thinking about that stupid gentoo/ricer comment. HAHAHAHAHAH |
| 01:52.26 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: yea I think *they* just want to confuse the people as part of some complex plot |
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| 01:52.29 | Phated | be* |
| 01:52.31 | libpcp | Hello everyone |
| 01:52.39 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Yes, must be. The conspiracy grows. |
| 01:52.45 | t-jack | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:52.45 | dpkg | ...but factoids is already something else... |
| 01:52.54 | t-jack | er... |
| 01:52.55 | deadcat | Phated: actually its that website. but i dont remember the name of the site. heheh. |
| 01:53.00 | Poprocks | factoids |
| 01:53.01 | Anthro | I'm having trouble using make-kpkg with kernel-headers-2.4.25-1-686 to produce a cloop module .deb with the right kernel version. It keeps producing cloop-module-.._2.01.4-2+10.00.Custom_i386.deb instead of cloop-module-2.4.25-1-686_2.01.4-2+10.00.Custom_i386.deb |
| 01:53.08 | Poprocks | dpkg: factoids |
| 01:53.08 | dpkg | factoids are information dpkg uses |
| 01:53.13 | sussudio | !fix ricers |
| 01:53.19 | Phated | deadcat: Meh, never mind. :) |
| 01:53.29 | Phated | !srt ricers |
| 01:53.33 | Poprocks | dpkg: no, factoids is <reply> Give me more! Bigmouth hungry! |
| 01:53.33 | dpkg | Poprocks: okay |
| 01:53.40 | Poprocks | dpkg: factoids |
| 01:53.40 | dpkg | Give me more! Bigmouth hungry! |
| 01:53.46 | ryty | I can't seem to mount my sony stick reader |
| 01:53.58 | scarynetworkguy | Anthro: what does a uname -r return |
| 01:54.03 | Phated | Damn, my mind is filthy this morning. |
| 01:54.14 | Anthro | scarynetworkguy: 2.4.25-1-686 |
| 01:54.16 | dabeej | ftp://ftp.uk.linux.org/pub/linux/java/debian/pool/main/j/j2se-common/j2se-common_1.1_all.deb |
| 01:54.18 | t-jack | Poprocks: Remember... it's your fault. :) |
| 01:54.19 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: yes it is. :) |
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| 01:54.26 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Aye... :) |
| 01:54.38 | dabeej | deadcat, blackdown mirrors havent been updated in some time |
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| 01:54.48 | deadcat | dabeej: good to know |
| 01:54.48 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Of course, it's not my fault that computers offer such a wide range of possible innuendo. :) |
| 01:55.09 | dabeej | deadcat, and it seems as if the deb's no longer work =( |
| 01:55.20 | dabeej | sigh |
| 01:55.23 | dabeej | no java for me |
| 01:55.24 | scarynetworkguy | Anthro: in /usr/src/ do you have kernel sources that might account for what you are seeing? |
| 01:55.41 | freddy | hey anyone here have a machine with 4GB RAM or more that can test a grub patch for me? |
| 01:55.49 | Phated | freddy: No. |
| 01:55.51 | eQ | 4 gb of ram? |
| 01:55.52 | eQ | jesus |
| 01:55.53 | Anthro | scarynetworkguy: no kernel sources in /usr/src, just various kernel-headers. |
| 01:55.56 | t-jack | Phated: Computers don't 'offer' inuendo... They simply make it easier to perpetrate. |
| 01:55.58 | deadcat | dabeej: i guess thats bad to know. (= |
| 01:56.02 | Phated | WTF has 4 GB or RAM? |
| 01:56.04 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: no it is not. not your fault at all. :) |
| 01:56.09 | Phated | t-jack: Perpetuate? |
| 01:56.11 | freddy | eQ: they exists and are becoming more common. |
| 01:56.17 | eQ | lol |
| 01:56.17 | scarynetworkguy | Anthro: what headers do you have? |
| 01:56.19 | freddy | eQ: think amd64 |
| 01:56.20 | shorty114 | Phated: PowerMac G5s can have up to 8 GB of RAM |
| 01:56.24 | deadcat | Phated: i have 1.5gig (= |
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| 01:56.27 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Aye, indeed not... "Wanna install a hard drive"? |
| 01:56.33 | Phated | shorty114: Bah. |
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| 01:56.35 | Anthro | scarynetworkguy: I'm running make-kpkg from within /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.4.25-1-686 |
| 01:56.37 | Phated | deadcat: 64 MB. :) |
| 01:56.37 | t-jack | Phated: Perpetrate, as a crime. ;) |
| 01:56.44 | shorty114 | Phated: why bah? |
| 01:56.47 | Phated | t-jack: Ohhh. |
| 01:56.50 | deadcat | Phated: HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA... i can kill you with the MB i have. (= |
| 01:56.53 | freddy | Phated: shit loads of ram |
| 01:56.54 | Phated | shorty114: You with the huge RAM, hush. |
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| 01:57.00 | eQ | lol |
| 01:57.08 | shorty114 | Phated: no way will i be able to pay for that |
| 01:57.08 | Jacco | This probably isn't the channel to ask this |
| 01:57.11 | Anthro | scarynetworkguy: I have 2.4.25-1, 2.4.25-1-686, 2.6.4-1, and 2.6.4-1-686 |
| 01:57.13 | Jacco | But I'm quite worried |
| 01:57.16 | zinx | Jacco: then don't |
| 01:57.19 | Jacco | There was an operating system |
| 01:57.22 | Phated | Jacco: Ask away, my good man. |
| 01:57.23 | shorty114 | Phated: i have 128 MB and 640 on my box |
| 01:57.31 | Phated | shorty114: Hush, I said! |
| 01:57.34 | eQ | 512 mb here 8) |
| 01:57.35 | Jacco | named Ununnium OS... it was hosted on sourceforge |
| 01:57.36 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: You are killing me dead. :) |
| 01:57.38 | shorty114 | Phated: why? |
| 01:57.38 | Phated | !phatedsmite shorty114 |
| 01:57.41 | Jacco | It had no kernel |
| 01:57.42 | Phated | There. |
| 01:57.48 | Jacco | And was restructured in an odd way |
| 01:57.54 | Jacco | And it seems to have disappeared |
| 01:57.57 | shorty114 | lol |
| 01:57.57 | Jacco | And I lost my build |
| 01:57.59 | Jacco | :( |
| 01:58.04 | shorty114 | !help |
| 01:58.12 | deadcat | dont panic! |
| 01:58.24 | Jacco | I am panicing |
| 01:58.26 | shorty114 | Phated: I guess u wrote dpkg? |
| 01:58.30 | Jacco | That project was frey important |
| 01:58.34 | t-jack | shorty114: When ddr x86 boards first came out they were offering up to 10 gig. Would eat an Apple. |
| 01:58.35 | scarynetworkguy | Anthro: and of course you have a modules deal in there right? |
| 01:58.51 | shorty114 | t-jack: cool |
| 01:59.02 | avu | jacco: I believe some guys in #python and/or #twisted were quite fund of this OS, maybe one of them has a copy left for you. :) |
| 01:59.02 | Phated | dpkg help $1 is <action> throws a manpage to $1. |
| 01:59.05 | Phated | shorty114: No. |
| 01:59.15 | Phated | shorty114: I merely added a factoid. :) |
| 01:59.17 | Anthro | scarynetworkguy: Yep. It even compiles the module and packages it, just with the wrong kernel version attached. |
| 01:59.21 | shorty114 | Phated: heh |
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| 02:00.05 | scarynetworkguy | Anthro: My guess and this is a best a guess is that you need to nuke the modules dir and start over again with it. Like I said though that is a guess and rather wild ass on at that |
| 02:00.08 | Phated | Damn, I'm going to ignore that help factoid. |
| 02:00.10 | shorty114 | dpkg whaleslap $1 is <action> slaps $1 silly with a freakishly huge whale named Hugh. |
| 02:00.10 | dpkg | okay, shorty114 |
| 02:00.11 | t-jack | shorty114: 5 gig DDR, 5 gig SD, 20 gig swap... Ouch... |
| 02:00.26 | shorty114 | !whaleslap shorty114 |
| 02:00.26 | Polite | How do I get the darn Num-Lock on by default (KDE) ? |
| 02:00.31 | shorty114 | ah |
| 02:00.32 | shorty114 | ok |
| 02:00.51 | Anthro | scarynetworkguy: It did this the first time around, when I had just unpacked the cloop module. It didn't work from a clean start then. |
| 02:00.53 | shorty114 | heh |
| 02:00.53 | Jacco | Wtf this can't be happening.. |
| 02:00.54 | deadcat | Polite: i use a pkg called numlockx but i dont use kde though |
| 02:01.01 | scarynetworkguy | Anthro: I dunno |
| 02:01.02 | Jacco | How..... |
| 02:01.07 | Jacco | Look. |
| 02:01.18 | Jacco | Does anyone know about rarely-known OS's? |
| 02:01.27 | Phated | Jacco: It's not a Debian problem, ergo, you won't find the answer on #debian. |
| 02:01.53 | Jacco | Can you refer me to a relevant channel? |
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| 02:02.00 | Phated | Jacco: No, I don |
| 02:02.06 | Polite | deadcat: found it! thahmks |
| 02:02.10 | Phated | 't know. Google it. |
| 02:02.10 | Polite | Thanks! |
| 02:02.28 | shorty114 | Polite: #kde maybe? |
| 02:02.28 | amphi | Jacco: what 'rarely-known' OSes? |
| 02:02.35 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: wants what? |
| 02:02.36 | Jacco | unnulium |
| 02:02.42 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: eh? |
| 02:02.48 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Ohhh. Terabyte RAM. |
| 02:02.51 | Jacco | A stable, non kernel-based OS |
| 02:02.52 | Guerin | Jacco: was this unnunnium linux-based? |
| 02:03.04 | Phated | Can't be, because there was no kernel. |
| 02:03.31 | amphi | Jacco: never 'eard of it, sorry |
| 02:03.33 | t-jack | Jacco: There are also lisp-based OSs, huh> |
| 02:03.35 | t-jack | ? |
| 02:03.54 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: don't we all :) |
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| 02:03.59 | Phated | *shrugs* NFI. |
| 02:04.02 | sussudio | !google unnunnium |
| 02:04.04 | Guerin | Jacco: have you tried http://unununium.org/ |
| 02:04.05 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Yepper-dee-doo-dah. |
| 02:04.11 | dpkg | Google was unable to find any results for unnunnium |
| 02:04.20 | sussudio | !phatedsmite Jacco |
| 02:04.20 | Guerin | unununium |
| 02:04.22 | Anthro | !google unobtainium |
| 02:04.24 | Guerin | as in 1 1 1 ium |
| 02:04.26 | dpkg | Google says unobtainium is at http://www.claytonbailey.com/unobtainium.htm or http://www.unobtainiumltd.com/ or http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/Science-Fiction-News.asp?NewsNum=88 or http://www.darpa.mil/DARPAtech2004/pdf/scripts/MainScript.pdf or http://www.epinions.com/pr-Outdoor_Apparel-Oakley_Unobtainium_Pant_Womens |
| 02:04.35 | Phated | Yay. :) |
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| 02:04.57 | volkadav | wierd. i installed galeon to test another gtk2-based web browser, and it has the same phenomenon occuring, but it takes 20-30 keystrokes to trigger instead of moz dying on the first |
| 02:05.35 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: good job :) |
| 02:05.44 | Polite | PROBLEM SOLVED! I love apt (synaptic)! |
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| 02:05.59 | Polite | Thanks all. It's installed and set. |
| 02:06.04 | NuBus | Jacco: is http://uuu.sourceforge.net/ it ? |
| 02:06.06 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: :) |
| 02:06.39 | Polite | shorty114: Thanks...done. |
| 02:06.41 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: :) |
| 02:06.46 | vithos | ok, I give up trying to get support for my hardware RAID controller, is /boot the only partition I need to have outside of a software RAID array? |
| 02:06.49 | Polite | deadcat: thanks....done |
| 02:07.10 | Guerin | NuBus: wtf not just go to the FUCKING website |
| 02:07.15 | Guerin | http://unununium.org/ |
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| 02:07.33 | Guerin | which I found with a FUCKING GOOGLE SEARCH |
| 02:07.52 | lklm | finally got oracle to install :) |
| 02:08.09 | lklm | don't know how to administer it thou |
| 02:08.12 | deadcat | Polite: hows kde on debian? |
| 02:08.20 | Phated | Gentlemen, please. Chill. |
| 02:08.30 | cafuego | lklm: buy support, ask them. |
| 02:08.33 | scarynetworkguy | Guerin: that is of course because you bring a braincell or two to the party |
| 02:08.47 | Phated | deadcat: I have a feeling it's like KDE on any other Linux... :) |
| 02:08.49 | deadcat | why do i always miss all the fucking? )= |
| 02:08.55 | Phated | !fuck deadcat |
| 02:08.55 | cafuego | vithos: What raid controller is it? |
| 02:08.59 | Phated | There. |
| 02:08.59 | Guerin | scarynetworkguy: just the one, today. It's the fits monday back after summer vvacation :( |
| 02:09.01 | deadcat | Phated: that doesnt help. (= |
| 02:09.06 | Phated | deadcat: Oh? |
| 02:09.06 | scarynetworkguy | deadcat: just unlucky I guess |
| 02:09.09 | Phated | !bugger deadcat |
| 02:09.14 | Guerin | first, even |
| 02:09.17 | Polite | deadcat: the best. Full menus, nice settings (gui), PREATY. |
| 02:09.19 | Phated | OK, I'm done with botabuse for now. |
| 02:09.24 | scarynetworkguy | Guerin: ouch that's gotta hurt |
| 02:09.27 | shorty114 | Phated: roflmao |
| 02:09.30 | Phated | Polite: Ahem. Pretty is XFCE4. |
| 02:09.36 | Phated | KDE is bloaty. |
| 02:09.39 | deadcat | Polite: heheh. |
| 02:09.39 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: good very good :) |
| 02:09.59 | cafuego | Polite: KDE 3.2 runs fine, so does Gnome 2.6 |
| 02:10.00 | deadcat | Phated: you xfce4? |
| 02:10.05 | Phated | deadcat: Always. :) |
| 02:10.05 | scarynetworkguy | and seems to have crashed me to the point where I'm starting to think I'm going to have to reboot |
| 02:10.10 | deadcat | Phated: girllll (= |
| 02:10.17 | deadcat | or it is girrrrl? |
| 02:10.20 | Polite | Phated: No Icewm with "XP" theme (oh no). At least on the old comp. |
| 02:10.25 | Phated | deadcat: Well, except for when I was RH, but we'll not mention that. |
| 02:10.29 | vithos | cafuego: I'm looking it up :( |
| 02:10.36 | Phated | deadcat: It's girrrrrrl. |
| 02:10.40 | cafuego | vithos: Is it on the mainboard? |
| 02:10.44 | Phated | Polite: Eeeeeew, XP. |
| 02:10.56 | vithos | cafuego: yes, integrated serial ATA RAID |
| 02:11.00 | Phated | Like toresbe said, look at XP sideways... |
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| 02:11.07 | scarynetworkguy | that seems like it should be considered a crime against humantiy |
| 02:11.08 | vithos | cafuego: Silicon Image 3112A |
| 02:11.09 | deadcat | Phated: girrrrrrrrrrrl. ya. lets not mention our rh days. (= bad memories. )= .... |
| 02:11.11 | cafuego | vithos: Thay're generally not technically hardware raid anyway. |
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| 02:11.23 | cafuego | vithos: Ah ok, Athlon64 box? :-) |
| 02:11.33 | Phated | deadcat: Aye, bad, bad memories of RH and KDE... And 64 Mb RAM. |
| 02:11.33 | vithos | cafuego: nope, P4 |
| 02:11.49 | NuBus | umop apisdn si dX smopuim |
| 02:11.54 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: and you made it through that without putting something pointy through your skull? |
| 02:11.55 | nicholas | I apt-get source package, then I modify the source. Can I easily generate a diff of my changes? |
| 02:12.00 | deadcat | Phated: ya... rh7.3 was my wmaker days. (= |
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| 02:12.17 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: I was not as bitter when I was 15 as I am now. |
| 02:12.22 | cafuego | vithos: I've set up a box (athlon64) with that controller in it. You're best off doing kernel mode software raid, the siimage driver should do the trick. |
| 02:12.22 | merlincorey | Through much experience, we have learned the way to more elegant software is a more elegant language behind it. To this end we have chosen to use Python as the language of choice for development. |
| 02:12.22 | bluefox83 | i forgot how to mount /dev/cdrom to /cdrom0 :( |
| 02:12.28 | deadcat | Phated: they stop shipping wmaker with 8.0 so i switched. |
| 02:12.36 | zinx | Phated: been in #debian too long, eh? |
| 02:12.38 | merlincorey | (not to start a language war, or anything, but that's funny) |
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| 02:12.42 | Phated | deadcat: I was a RH 7.3, murdered RH 8.0, and then liked RH 9.0 for a bit. |
| 02:12.43 | Polite | Running KDE 3.2.2 |
| 02:12.45 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: excellent good to see progress |
| 02:12.53 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: *bows* |
| 02:12.56 | vithos | cafuego: I'm surprised there isn't better hardware support for my motherboard, it's over 2 years old now.. Asus P4G8X-D |
| 02:12.57 | Guerin | merlincorey: whe whole damn shop looks like one huge wank-fest |
| 02:12.57 | Phated | zinx: No, grew up. |
| 02:13.09 | Guerin | merlincorey: lots of gedank and fuckall else |
| 02:13.14 | vithos | cafuego: is it possible to do that from the Debian-Installer? |
| 02:13.16 | Phated | gedank? |
| 02:13.17 | cafuego | vithos: I have a single ekrnel mode raid1 machine, which doesn't even have a separate /boot partition; LILo knows hda and hdc are mirrored, so it updates both (and in theory can boot from either) |
| 02:13.18 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: *claps* |
| 02:13.18 | Polite | Phated: The Kids like it. |
| 02:13.19 | Phated | !gedank |
| 02:13.20 | zinx | Phated: bit young for that, yet ;) |
| 02:13.25 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Thank you. |
| 02:13.30 | merlincorey | Guerin: I'd agree... they're a bit... err.. is jaded the correct term, or naive..? |
| 02:13.32 | Phated | Polite: I grew up, like I said. :) |
| 02:13.33 | cafuego | vithos: if you have a sarge iso/cd, yes. |
| 02:13.47 | Phated | zinx: I'm mature. :) Ask scarynetworkguy. :) |
| 02:13.58 | scarynetworkguy | never too young to be bitter and angry :) |
| 02:14.00 | Guerin | merlincorey: both, I think. not a good combination. But hey, what do I know, they might be onto something. |
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| 02:14.07 | vithos | cafuego: I have sarge netinst, which brings me to my second problem, it loads a driver for my onboard ethernet, but it doesn't work |
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| 02:14.32 | scarynetworkguy | !doesn't work |
| 02:14.32 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 02:14.34 | cafuego | vithos: You *may* need to make /etc/raidtab by hand; the kernel-image packages have issues making initrd images for md(0,1) systems during boot. |
| 02:14.41 | cafuego | s/boot/install/ |
| 02:14.46 | Ignignot_ | !mplayer |
| 02:14.46 | dpkg | [mplayer] at http://www.mplayerhq.hu/ , or for debian packages, see http://hpisi.nerim.net/, or the url for debian packages moved to ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/; as for why mplayer isn't in debian, ask me about <mplayer license> |
| 02:14.52 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: yes you are. Very much so :) |
| 02:15.05 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Thank you, sir. :) |
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| 02:15.40 | vithos | cafuego: sounds like a boatload of fun |
| 02:15.54 | Ignignot_ | anyone have an alterntive site for ftp.us.debian.org unstable ? I'm getting not found errors on it. I can however get to ftp.us.debian.org stable |
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| 02:16.13 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: anytime :) |
| 02:16.22 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: *grin* |
| 02:16.25 | merlincorey | "How is "Unununium" pronounced?" they say they don't know, but they link to a doc that explains it... |
| 02:16.34 | cafuego | vithos: *shrug* It took me about 15 mins to fix it all up... and that was probably an older Sarge iso than the one you've got... so it may be fixed by now. |
| 02:16.37 | Guerin | !gedanken is a thought experiment - something which is great for thinking through theoretical problems but may or may not be any use in reality. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gedanken_experiment |
| 02:16.38 | dpkg | okay, Guerin |
| 02:16.46 | Phated | Ignignot_: Why not just use the http? It's never failed me. |
| 02:17.09 | Phated | Guerin: Ohh, thought experiment. Like Schrödinger's cat? |
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| 02:17.22 | Ignignot_ | Phated: what is the address? |
| 02:17.31 | Guerin | Phated: indeed. |
| 02:17.43 | vithos | cafuego: maybe I should get the latest ISO.. this one may be a bit old. of course, my cd burner doesn't work this computer (with debian) |
| 02:17.44 | Phated | Ignignot_: Eh, dunno. Can't recall it now. |
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| 02:17.50 | Phated | Guerin: Ahh, I understand now. :) |
| 02:17.53 | Guerin | Phated: http://ftp.us.debian.org works |
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| 02:18.04 | Ignignot_ | http://us.debian.org unstable? |
| 02:18.09 | Phated | Oh, yeah, that. |
| 02:18.17 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Yeppers. Dead... or not? |
| 02:18.19 | vithos | though I haven't tried since upgrading to 2.6 |
| 02:18.21 | Guerin | just because the name starts with ftp doesn't mean it needs to be accessed by the ftp protocol |
| 02:18.28 | cafuego | Get:3 http://security.debian.org sarge/updates/main Packages [2541B] |
| 02:18.30 | cafuego | hey ho! |
| 02:18.41 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: let me check. :) |
| 02:18.48 | tchmnkyz | hey all |
| 02:18.52 | bluefox83 | how do i mount a fat32 partition with read/write enabled in a 2.6.6 kernel? |
| 02:18.53 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: :) |
| 02:18.57 | tchmnkyz | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:19.02 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: No, NO! Checking ruins the experiment! |
| 02:19.06 | tchmnkyz | here is what i got: iptables -t nat -I PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 99 -i eth0 -j DNAT --to 10.0.0.8:22 |
| 02:19.11 | tchmnkyz | but it dont seem to work |
| 02:19.17 | tchmnkyz | can anyone help me |
| 02:19.26 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: *laughs* |
| 02:19.30 | Phated | bluefox83: Likely, mount -t fat32 /dev/foobar /mntpnt |
| 02:19.36 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: *grin* |
| 02:20.04 | bluefox83 | Phated, already did that, it wont give me read/write access..infact i can't even get into it to read! |
| 02:20.12 | Phated | bluefox83: IIR |
| 02:20.17 | bluefox83 | say what? |
| 02:20.22 | gothtec | !tell bluefox83 about vfatrw |
| 02:20.29 | Phated | bluefox83: IIRC, you need to edit your fstab... Lemme check. |
| 02:20.41 | gothtec | Phated: got him covered. I think. |
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| 02:20.44 | scarynetworkguy | bluefox83: did it throw any errors when you tried to mount it |
| 02:20.46 | Guerin | bluefox83: mount it as type vfat |
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| 02:21.04 | bluefox83 | no, just when i tried to cd into it.. |
| 02:21.07 | Phated | gothtec: Woota. |
| 02:21.09 | Guerin | it should have errored saying no such filesystem as fat32 |
| 02:21.19 | Phated | Guerin: My bad. Haven't mounted for sometime. |
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| 02:21.25 | bluefox83 | i used -t vfat when i mounted it |
| 02:21.35 | Guerin | Phated: not for lack of trying, though, by the sounds of things. |
| 02:21.37 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: not again with the mounting :) |
| 02:21.56 | Phated | Guerin: Yeah, I've edited the fstab. :) |
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| 02:22.09 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Hahahahahaaha. Wasn't thinking about that, but now... |
| 02:22.13 | Phated | bluefox83: Are you in #flood? |
| 02:22.41 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: :) |
| 02:22.53 | samlander | what's a good kde ftp client? |
| 02:22.54 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: :) |
| 02:22.55 | bluefox83 | i am now |
| 02:23.18 | Phated | bluefox83: Er, I don't see you. |
| 02:23.22 | medgno | samlander: konqueror? |
| 02:23.35 | samlander | medgno: tried that, wont work |
| 02:23.48 | scarynetworkguy | samlander: it comes with one by default. that is most likely as good as any |
| 02:24.20 | medgno | does anyone know why evolution is opening epiphany instead of galeon, when galeon is my default browser? |
| 02:24.27 | samlander | scarynetworkguy: i can connect via regular ftp client in bash, but not thorugh konqueror |
| 02:24.40 | scarynetworkguy | samlander: to where? |
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| 02:24.49 | samlander | scarynetworkguy: was hoping there was something more comphensive... |
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| 02:24.55 | samlander | scarynetworkguy: a servu server |
| 02:25.10 | scarynetworkguy | samlander: I've heard that gftp is good. Never used it myself |
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| 02:25.31 | samlander | scarynetworkguy: i'll give that a try thanks |
| 02:25.36 | Guerin | medgno: does gnome realise it's your default browser? |
| 02:25.40 | scarynetworkguy | samlander: anytime |
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| 02:26.18 | medgno | Guerin: evidentially not. typing any http url in the run dialog pops up epiphany. so i'm just going to set the browser command to 'galeon -n' and hope for the best |
| 02:26.18 | mwilson | medgno: Define "default". Epiphany is Gnome's browser, not Galeon. |
| 02:26.22 | NeoSadist | i have a question: say I install debian on my dual pIII box. will i have to recompile the kernel myself to get smp abilities? |
| 02:26.38 | medgno | mwilson: yes, but gnome has a 'choose default application' thing |
| 02:26.38 | NeoSadist | i'm liking sarge on my single pIII box ... |
| 02:26.42 | Guerin | medgno: not galeon %s ? |
| 02:26.56 | Guerin | NeoSadist: just install a smp kernel |
| 02:26.59 | medgno | Guerin: i want urls to open in new tabs of existing browsers |
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| 02:27.06 | Guerin | NeoSadist: apt-cache search kernel-image |grep smp |
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| 02:27.21 | Guerin | medgno: dunno how ton do that with galeon, then |
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| 02:27.35 | samlander | scarynetworkguy: that did the trick :) |
| 02:27.44 | medgno | i looked at the manpage, and -n followed by url should open in new tab of existing window |
| 02:28.26 | scarynetworkguy | samlander: good |
| 02:28.54 | phinux | Good morning, everybody |
| 02:29.11 | Guerin | medgno: s is the url string, so -n %s might be what you want |
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| 02:29.34 | pino | hola |
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| 02:29.41 | shorty114 | yo |
| 02:29.42 | medgno | Guerin: thanks, but gnome doesn't seem to want to listen to what i'm telling it about default browser. oh well :-/ |
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| 02:30.04 | Guerin | medgno: bizarre, works for me. |
| 02:30.18 | shorty114 | medgno: #gnome? |
| 02:30.21 | medgno | maybe my registry/gconf got messed up |
| 02:30.32 | shorty114 | medgno: #gnome ? |
| 02:30.34 | pino | nadien habla español |
| 02:30.48 | medgno | shorty114: not a bad idea |
| 02:30.50 | Phated | pino: No. #debian-es |
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| 02:34.43 | scarynetworkguy | !punish kde for crashing X to the point where it looks like I'm going to have to reboot |
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| 02:35.01 | Phated | Ooo. |
| 02:35.23 | gothtec | linux people are allergic to reboots |
| 02:35.31 | bloo1 | !punish bloom for dist-upgrading too early in the day |
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| 02:36.37 | gothtec | !lart me and half a packet of peanuts |
| 02:36.53 | gothtec | no. |
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| 02:42.35 | Phated | Whoa, whoa! Five minutes of silence?! |
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| 02:43.22 | jon787 | Phated: you ruined it! |
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| 02:43.48 | Phated | jon787: That was exactly my intention. |
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| 02:44.29 | timzter | /etc/default/spamassassin says: "WARNING read README.spamd before using. THERE ARE SECURITY RISKS!" Where is this README.spamd? |
| 02:44.47 | Phated | timzter: locate README.spmd |
| 02:44.50 | Phated | spamd* |
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| 02:45.36 | timzter | Phated: thx |
| 02:45.45 | tweedle | hi, im running unstable on an ibook and dpkg recently got broken... i can apt-get install $anything and i get (Reading database ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/gftp-text_2.0.17-5_powerpc.deb (--unpacshort read in buffer_copy (files list for package `console-common')... can anyone help?k): |
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| 02:45.59 | Phated | timzter: NP. |
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| 02:46.38 | SIRION93 | will debian run on a dell inspiron 4000? |
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| 02:47.25 | ryty | tweedle, did you apt-get update? |
| 02:47.32 | Phated | SIRION93: Probably. Check the Linux compatibility guide somewhere or other. |
| 02:47.33 | tweedle | recently i did |
| 02:47.47 | ryty | may wanna do it again, changes a lot for sid |
| 02:47.54 | tweedle | cant |
| 02:47.56 | majelix | A quick google search gives http://spazioinwind.libero.it/dende/mydell/index.html |
| 02:47.57 | ryty | may not be the problem, but may help |
| 02:48.01 | ryty | oh, alright |
| 02:48.08 | SIRION93 | phated, ok, i know that the inspiron is sort of strange a lot of ppl install redhat 7.0 on it with a lot of success |
| 02:48.27 | tweedle | dpkg is too broken, i cant upgrade |
| 02:48.27 | dpkg | tweedle: are you smoking crack? |
| 02:48.27 | SIRION93 | maj, thanks |
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| 02:48.56 | Phated | SIRION93: Then you should be OK... |
| 02:49.29 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: what is BBS? |
| 02:49.39 | bloom | tweedle: dpkg is not broken. apt is broken |
| 02:49.40 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Bulletin Board Service? |
| 02:49.52 | Phated | Apt is borked? Oh no. |
| 02:49.54 | apt | parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Phated |
| 02:49.58 | tweedle | can i paste it in here? |
| 02:50.05 | Phated | tweedle: #flood |
| 02:50.07 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: 19:48 < Phated> But, BBS. : |
| 02:50.17 | scarynetworkguy | tweedle: no for the love of god no |
| 02:50.22 | rahji | if an application has been compiled and installed from source how can it be added to the dpkg list? |
| 02:50.26 | bloom | tweedle: that looks like the latest version of the package, so I think what you'll keed to do is use dpkg to remove it |
| 02:50.28 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Ohhh, that. Be back soon. |
| 02:50.31 | bloom | dpkg --remove gftp-text |
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| 02:50.43 | SIRION93 | phated, dumb question but once i make iso's of debian can i literally boot from the first disc and start the install? |
| 02:50.54 | Phated | SIRION93: One ISO is enough for a netinst. |
| 02:51.17 | SIRION93 | netinst? |
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| 02:51.28 | bloom | dpkg: you're so cute |
| 02:51.28 | greycat | oh come on, that's weak. |
| 02:51.28 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: got it. again me with the not being even a littl bit 1337 :) |
| 02:51.28 | dpkg | i haven't a clue, bloom |
| 02:51.31 | Phated | Net installation. Downloads the files from the net while installing. |
| 02:51.36 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: :) |
| 02:51.47 | SIRION93 | phat, ah cool well i'm going to burn the iso, good to have hard copies of them ya know |
| 02:51.48 | scarynetworkguy | ok I have to reboot damn stupid KDE |
| 02:52.01 | bloom | tweedle: did that help? |
| 02:52.06 | Phated | SIRION93: A CD, damnit, is not a hardcopy. :) |
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| 02:52.13 | tweedle | no |
| 02:52.25 | tweedle | i dont think u guys understand |
| 02:52.31 | greycat | dpkg CMD: --remove (.*?) =~ s/removes/rips the still-beating/ |
| 02:52.31 | dpkg | OK, greycat |
| 02:52.32 | tweedle | i cant apt-get anything |
| 02:52.40 | malex|home | are there any known pitfalls in woody-->sarge dist-upgrade at the moment? I am about to recommend someone to dist-upgrade and wanted to make sure I'm not throwing them into a pit. |
| 02:52.45 | SIRION93 | phated, lol true. and this all works with AMD 800mhz right? |
| 02:52.57 | bloom | tweedle: dpkg is one level below apt-get |
| 02:52.57 | Phated | SIRION93: Works with AMD fine, AFAIK. |
| 02:52.58 | SIRION93 | or is debian specific to just pentium and so on |
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| 02:53.04 | SIRION93 | phat, great! |
| 02:53.05 | tweedle | ok |
| 02:53.10 | bloom | tweedle: apt is broken now on your system until you fix it. you fix it by using dpkg |
| 02:53.13 | tweedle | so whats your suggestion? |
| 02:53.18 | Phated | SIRION93: DAMN IT, IT's PHATED, not PHAT! |
| 02:53.20 | tweedle | how? |
| 02:53.20 | majelix | I don't see this anywhere in the errata, but the new installer RC1 is wonky with my flatscreen |
| 02:53.28 | bloom | tweedle: dpkg --remove gftp-text |
| 02:53.35 | greycat | SIRION93: very. very. bad. mistake. |
| 02:53.38 | majelix | wonky meaning the auto adjust on the monitor doesn't give a clear picture |
| 02:53.41 | Phated | malex|home: If you can help them with minor breakages and install apt-listbugs, you should be fine. |
| 02:53.42 | tweedle | but gftp-text isnt the problem |
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| 02:53.54 | Phated | greycat: :) |
| 02:54.10 | SIRION93 | PHATED: woop sorry. |
| 02:54.29 | Phated | SIRION93: 's OK. |
| 02:54.32 | tweedle | brian@ibook:/$ sudo dpkg --remove gftp-text |
| 02:54.34 | tweedle | dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove gftp-text which isn't installed. |
| 02:54.34 | dpkg | You are moron #38, tweedle |
| 02:54.47 | tweedle | ok |
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| 02:54.56 | Phated | greycat: Which? |
| 02:55.03 | greycat | Phated: Quills. |
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| 02:55.12 | bloom | tweedle: ok. let me look around |
| 02:55.18 | Phated | greycat: Haven't heard of it, but I get your point. :) |
| 02:55.19 | tweedle | ty |
| 02:55.51 | bloom | tweedle: I take it then that the package you're trying to install is gftp-text |
| 02:55.52 | tory | can somebody tell me how I can get ALSA working in debian? I'm using the 2.6 386 kernel and I have an via82xx card |
| 02:56.00 | tory | I tried setting it up a while back but failed to |
| 02:56.02 | greycat | tory: /msg dpkg alsa 2.6 |
| 02:56.10 | tweedle | i wanted gftp... but it happens with anything |
| 02:56.11 | tory | thanks |
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| 02:56.43 | malex|home | Phated: Thanks. I will push them forward, then :) |
| 02:57.05 | rahji | i installed php and apache from source...should i add them to the dpkg list somehow? |
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| 02:57.22 | locsmif | scarynetworkguy: now that is a good bot abuse message |
| 02:57.32 | bloom | tweedle: bug 158999 suggests that it means the deb you're trying to install is corrupted |
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| 02:57.34 | phinux | l |
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| 02:57.37 | majelix | The rc1 installer doesn't support software raid booting? And I was so hopeful I could shortcut digging through that howto |
| 02:57.40 | scarynetworkguy | locsmif: thanks |
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| 02:58.13 | tweedle | bloom: i pasted in #flood.. the full error |
| 02:58.16 | locsmif | could be the longest too : !scarynetworkguysmite $1 ;) |
| 02:58.26 | greycat | heh |
| 02:58.34 | tweedle | bloom: i just picked a deb at random |
| 02:59.01 | SIRION93 | phated: what flavor should i install on my dell inspiron 4000? |
| 02:59.11 | scarynetworkguy | locsmif: I already have geezersmite |
| 02:59.14 | sussudio | SIRION93: pistachio |
| 02:59.20 | SIRION93 | sus, haha |
| 02:59.21 | tory | greycat: I followed the directions, do I need to reboot? |
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| 02:59.33 | tory | greycat: running gnome-alsamixer just gives me a blank window that crashes |
| 02:59.34 | scarynetworkguy | SIRION93: mint chocolate chip |
| 02:59.36 | locsmif | scarynetworkguy: I was there when you created it, that was a funny one, yes :) |
| 02:59.44 | scarynetworkguy | locsmif: cool |
| 02:59.45 | greycat | tory: I use neither alsa nor linux2.6. |
| 02:59.46 | SIRION93 | scary, sweet that beats vanilla! |
| 02:59.53 | tory | heh |
| 03:00.29 | greycat | scarynetworkguy: how many people has it killed? |
| 03:00.33 | Disposable_hero | anyone know a lot about X11? |
| 03:00.38 | greycat | Disposable_hero: #xfree86 |
| 03:00.43 | Disposable_hero | thanks |
| 03:00.44 | cafuego | Disposable_hero: the authors would, yes. |
| 03:01.00 | bloom | tweedle: there's also bug 263799 in console-common. try running debsums on the package and see whether it comes up with the same kinds of errors |
| 03:01.03 | scarynetworkguy | greycat: it went on a rampage last month. Nearly ate Portland. Many thousands dead |
| 03:01.21 | Disposable_hero | cafuego: what's that supposed to mean? |
| 03:01.28 | greycat | scarynetworkguy: good job on the cover-up. never heard a word about it. |
| 03:01.30 | tweedle | bloom: can u be a little more specific please? |
| 03:01.35 | tweedle | hold |
| 03:01.37 | tweedle | let me man |
| 03:01.45 | scarynetworkguy | greycat: I try to keep a lid on things. :) |
| 03:01.48 | cafuego | Disposable_hero: that's supposed to mean that the XFree86 authors would know a lot about X11. |
| 03:01.55 | bloom | tweedle: debsums console-common |
| 03:02.16 | bloom | tweedle: compare it to the bug in the BTS, and also post on #flood |
| 03:02.23 | Disposable_hero | I figured that much, were you that the people in #xfree86 would know? |
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| 03:02.28 | tweedle | where is that bug filed? |
| 03:02.33 | cafuego | Disposable_hero: what? |
| 03:02.45 | Disposable_hero | nevermind man...;) thanks |
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| 03:02.53 | Disposable_hero | woops |
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| 03:02.57 | Disposable_hero | were you saying*.... |
| 03:03.18 | cafuego | Disposable_hero: No, that was greycat. |
| 03:03.18 | bloom | !tell tweedle about bts |
| 03:03.20 | tweedle | bloom: where is that bug filed? |
| 03:03.48 | timzter | I am not clear about the difference between adding spamc filter in /etc/procmailrc, versus changing /etc/postfix/master.cf to add content_filter=spamassassin etc. Which gets run first? The smtpd -o content-filter=spamassasin stuff, or the /etc/procmailrc stuff? Do I need both? |
| 03:03.55 | bloom | tweedle: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=263799 |
| 03:03.55 | tweedle | ty |
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| 03:05.19 | tory | does anybody know how I can "remove all traces of oss from memory & boot-time"? |
| 03:05.43 | scarynetworkguy | tory: rare earth magnets? |
| 03:05.53 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Nah. |
| 03:05.55 | tweedle | bloom: i dont have debsums and i cant apt-get it |
| 03:05.58 | cafuego | scarynetworkguy: Nah, crystals |
| 03:05.59 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Explosive! |
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| 03:06.11 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: that would be a good choice also |
| 03:06.17 | bloom | tweedle: oi vei |
| 03:06.27 | scarynetworkguy | cafuego: I don't know how much I trust the crystals |
| 03:06.34 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Thank you. :) |
| 03:06.38 | greycat | tory: rmmod, editing /etc/modules, editing whatever the hell discover uses. |
| 03:06.38 | locsmif | !wtf oss |
| 03:06.38 | dpkg | well, oss is a catchphrase for Open Source Software that is ironically the acronym referring to 'Open Sound Systems', some very non-free and non-open-source software. It is also Online SAP Support. SAP is VERY non-free. (www.4front-tech.com for OSS) or an acronym coined by Vinod Valipollil in the Halloween document. the "standard" audio drivers in the 2.2-2.4 series of Linux kernels. (See ALSA for 2.5 info).. OldSchoolSound |
| 03:07.04 | cafuego | timzter: smtpd -o content_filter gets run first, that's spawned by postfix itself. if you sue provmail, that's run when postfix hands the mail to the MDA |
| 03:07.20 | cafuego | timzter: (like say procmail or maildrop or cyrdeliver) |
| 03:07.49 | Disposable_hero | ok, actually it seems that it's timing out DURING the initialization of the periphs |
| 03:07.56 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: :) |
| 03:08.06 | cafuego | shite |
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| 03:08.34 | bloom | can someone help tweedle. I think he may possibly have a problem related to bug 263799, but to test that for sure he needs debsums installed, and it appears that apt (and maybe dpkg) are broken on his system as a result of the bug |
| 03:09.26 | scarynetworkguy | !test |
| 03:09.26 | dpkg | Yes, scarynetworkguy, you're still online. |
| 03:09.30 | scarynetworkguy | w00t |
| 03:09.35 | locsmif | bloom, openpkg? |
| 03:10.11 | bloom | locsmif: what is openpkg? |
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| 03:11.05 | locsmif | bloom http://www.openpkg.org |
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| 03:11.49 | slushpupie | anyone know if its possible to get Debian installed in a chroot on Mac OS X? |
| 03:12.04 | bloom | locsmif: and what do you think this will do to help with the problem? |
| 03:12.10 | Phated | Need to reboot. BRB. :) |
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| 03:12.46 | locsmif | bloom, it might be a quick way to get the source of debsum, so he can compile. its an attempt to help. if it failed, then sorry. find your own way :) |
| 03:12.50 | scarynetworkguy | slushpupie: should be. It ought to work just like chroot on any other *nix |
| 03:13.21 | bluefox83 | ok guys..now i have to ask for help getting my windows drive to boot.. |
| 03:13.26 | slushpupie | scarynetworkguy: except that os x dosnt use ELF |
| 03:13.30 | bluefox83 | from grub |
| 03:13.32 | bluefox83 | :X |
| 03:13.57 | slushpupie | scarynetworkguy: I dont know how to get it to run an ELF, if its even possible |
| 03:14.13 | scarynetworkguy | bluefox83: look at /boot/grub/menu.lst and do what it says to do. Pay attention to your device numbers |
| 03:14.22 | scarynetworkguy | slushpupie: that I did not and do not know |
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| 03:14.46 | bloom | tweedle: try downloading the source code to debsums using `apt-get source debsums' and compiling it from scratch |
| 03:15.27 | bluefox83 | scarynetworkguy, i know, i believe i editted that once already..but it's missing now.. |
| 03:15.32 | bloom | tweedle: I don't even think you need to compile it - considering that it's just a perl script |
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| 03:16.20 | timzter | cafuego: So I only need to do the spamc stuff EITHER in /etc/postfix/master.cf __OR__ in /etc/procmailrc and not both, correct? |
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| 03:17.09 | bloom | tweedle: any luck? |
| 03:17.17 | scarynetworkguy | bluefox83: make sure it's still there |
| 03:17.19 | nono | when I go 'who' it seems that in the list, there is dead logins... how to clean that up? |
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| 03:17.42 | greycat | nono: blow away utmp and reboot. sacrifice a goat. |
| 03:17.46 | bluefox83 | scarynetworkguy, somehow it erased my first entry..i just remade one.. |
| 03:18.01 | bluefox83 | pasted what i put in it in #flood |
| 03:18.11 | scarynetworkguy | bluefox83: cool |
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| 03:18.28 | t-jack | That HURT... |
| 03:18.33 | Phated | t-jack: What did? |
| 03:18.47 | scarynetworkguy | just one goat? I thought it took two? |
| 03:19.05 | t-jack | Phated: Upgrading to Sarge with KDE installed. B'bye KDE... |
| 03:19.31 | scarynetworkguy | that would be because KDE is evil pure evil |
| 03:19.39 | Phated | t-jack: YAY! |
| 03:19.51 | greycat | scarynetworkguy: no, no... javascript is pure evil. |
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| 03:20.00 | greycat | scarynetworkguy: KDE is at best a diluted evil solution |
| 03:20.02 | t-jack | Phated: No No NO, I re-installed it. |
| 03:20.13 | Phated | Noooooo....! |
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| 03:20.20 | bluefox83 | how do i test my grub stuff without rebooting? |
| 03:20.23 | Phated | greycat: Excellent. |
| 03:20.40 | Phated | bluefox83: Considering GRUB is a bootloader... :| |
| 03:20.45 | nailbiter | bluefox83: qemu? :) |
| 03:20.50 | bluefox83 | you have a point -_- |
| 03:20.54 | bluefox83 | qemu? |
| 03:21.10 | scarynetworkguy | greycat: Javascript is more the evil of an elder god on a really bad day. KDE is merely an earthly evil but still pretty pure |
| 03:21.18 | nailbiter | bluefox83: it's a whole-system emulator, like vmware. some of the #debian-boot people use it to test the sarge installer. |
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| 03:21.21 | cafuego | Is there a deb develop channel here? |
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| 03:21.30 | cafuego | And if yes, what's it called? |
| 03:21.32 | locsmif | bloom, tweedle : ftp://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/debsums/debsums_2.0.2.tar.gz |
| 03:21.32 | bluefox83 | wow O.O |
| 03:21.52 | Phated | Ooo. Interesting. |
| 03:22.03 | bluefox83 | do any of the debian coders ever come in here? |
| 03:22.13 | t-jack | scarynetworkguy: So KDE is the metalhead of dte? |
| 03:22.15 | greycat | bluefox83: sometimes |
| 03:22.16 | nailbiter | bluefox83: i saw manoj in here yesterday. :) |
| 03:22.25 | scarynetworkguy | t-jack: basically |
| 03:22.28 | bluefox83 | cool! |
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| 03:22.40 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Metalhead good. KDE not good. KDE != metalhead. :) |
| 03:22.49 | t-jack | scarynetworkguy: Cool. What's the punker analog? |
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| 03:23.03 | Art_ | Do any of the Debian install CDs/floppys have support for WiFi? |
| 03:23.06 | Phated | t-jack: XFCE4. :) |
| 03:23.23 | bluefox83 | i think the 3.1 debian one does.. |
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| 03:23.30 | Phated | cafuego: #debian-dev? :) |
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| 03:23.48 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: so how evil is it? Keeping in mind that javascript has the title of greatest evil. |
| 03:23.53 | Art_ | bluefox83: CD? |
| 03:24.04 | bluefox83 | Art_, ya |
| 03:24.09 | timzter | If I have two rules in /etc/procmailrc and both end with | formail -i "Subject: foooo"... if the first rule triggers, will it end with that rule, or continue to fall through to the next rule? |
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| 03:24.13 | Guerin | wtf is metalhead? |
| 03:24.14 | deadcat | Phated: got some screenshots of your xfce4 ? |
| 03:24.16 | Art_ | bluefox83: Thanks. |
| 03:24.21 | bluefox83 | np |
| 03:24.25 | scarynetworkguy | t-jack: KDE is the Sid Vicous of Linux cause it will push you in front of a train. :) |
| 03:24.25 | Disposable_hero | hey guys, which is more stable the unstable or testing releases? |
| 03:24.33 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: OK, let's see... So Java is Sauron... That make KDE -one- of the Nazgul, and GNOME the Witch-King. :) |
| 03:24.38 | t-jack | Guerin: Headknocker, Headbanger... |
| 03:24.38 | Disposable_hero | err...packages...etc |
| 03:24.42 | Phated | deadcat: Look at scarynetworkguy's to avoid diabetes. |
| 03:24.46 | dessaix|zz | is there a way i can set my debian to not load X automaticaly ? |
| 03:24.51 | Guerin | t-jack: right, so it's not an allegory to anything. OK. |
| 03:24.57 | The_Vulture | ~tell dessaix|zz about nodm |
| 03:25.06 | NeoSadist | dessaix|zz: uh, in /etc/inittab tell it init = 3 ? |
| 03:25.10 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: nice very nice. :) but Javascript |
| 03:25.21 | t-jack | Guerin: Not an alogory, an analogy. |
| 03:25.22 | netcat | timzter: I think procmail executes on the first matching rule... |
| 03:25.27 | Phated | s/Java/JavaScript |
| 03:25.29 | deadcat | scarynetworkguy: link me to your screenshots plz. |
| 03:25.32 | scarynetworkguy | deadcat: trust me you don't want to see it. |
| 03:25.39 | NeoSadist | under "the default run level" |
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| 03:25.44 | deadcat | scarynetworkguy: ? |
| 03:25.51 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Yours is excellent. Mine ruins the reputation of Debianists everywhere. :) |
| 03:25.53 | slisher | When I try to open/mount my cdrom I get and error "Wrong fs type, bad option..." Any ideas? |
| 03:26.00 | scarynetworkguy | deadcat: Phated's screen you don't even want to see it. :) |
| 03:26.05 | scarynetworkguy | just a second |
| 03:26.09 | The_Vulture | slisher: is it an audio CD? |
| 03:26.12 | t-jack | Phated: Analog KDE to music fans? |
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| 03:26.28 | deadcat | Phated: scarynetworkguy: link me dammit!! (= |
| 03:26.29 | slisher | The_Vulture: Ues |
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| 03:26.37 | slisher | The_Vulture:Yes |
| 03:26.37 | The_Vulture | slisher: you don't mount audio CDs |
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| 03:26.51 | bluefox83 | i have a cd of nothing but mp3's that i am having trouble mounting too.. |
| 03:26.52 | Phated | deadcat: You asked for it. I have no web domain though... *considers sftp* |
| 03:26.56 | g4lt | Phated nonsense, just within a 25,000 mile radius ;P |
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| 03:27.07 | timzter | netcat: ok |
| 03:27.08 | slisher | The_Vulture: But the CD play doesn't seem to see it. |
| 03:27.12 | slushpupie | I wonder how hard it would be to write an fs module to be able to mount audio cds... |
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| 03:27.27 | The_Vulture | slisher: then perhaps your permissions are insufficient |
| 03:27.29 | greycat | slushpupie: I'm sure it's been done. I forget the name... |
| 03:27.30 | nailbiter | slushpupie: it's called cdfs, and exists in the form of a kernel patch. |
| 03:27.34 | ulitz | how can I adjust my volume on the system? |
| 03:27.38 | ulitz | with oss |
| 03:27.38 | t-jack | Phated: neh mine gotta head for bed... try for work tomorrow... |
| 03:27.38 | greycat | ulitz: aumix |
| 03:27.40 | deadcat | Phated: no apache/thttpd eh? |
| 03:27.43 | bluefox83 | you have to mount the drive, then just ls or use xmms to play whatever is on it |
| 03:27.45 | slushpupie | nailbiter: does it have cddb support? |
| 03:27.46 | Phated | g4lt: Eh? |
| 03:27.51 | ulitz | greycat: but isn't that for alsa? |
| 03:27.55 | greycat | ulitz: no |
| 03:27.55 | Phated | t-jack: Nighters. |
| 03:28.00 | t-jack | Later y'all. |
| 03:28.00 | Phated | deadcat: Nope. :) |
| 03:28.02 | slisher | The_Vulture: Which permissions? |
| 03:28.11 | nailbiter | slushpupie: makes audio tracks appear as large .wav files. no CDDB support: it'd be too complex for the kernel to connect to a CDDB database host by itself .. |
| 03:28.11 | ulitz | greycat: thanks |
| 03:28.15 | The_Vulture | slisher: the permissions on your CD drive.. |
| 03:28.17 | Phated | deadcat: If someone walked me through setting it up though... *hint* |
| 03:28.18 | g4lt | <Phated> scarynetworkguy: Yours is excellent. Mine ruins the |
| 03:28.18 | g4lt | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:28.27 | The_Vulture | !tell slisher about audio cd |
| 03:28.37 | deadcat | Phated: damn. too lazy to apt-get install apache? (= dang. |
| 03:29.19 | Phated | deadcat: Always. :) |
| 03:29.24 | Phated | g4lt: Ahhh. |
| 03:29.35 | Phated | deadcat: Hang on though, while I screenshot. :) |
| 03:29.35 | bluefox83 | how do you mount a data cd? |
| 03:29.43 | The_Vulture | bluefox83: man mount |
| 03:29.45 | slisher | The_Vulture: thnx |
| 03:29.47 | deadcat | Phated: heheh. |
| 03:29.47 | bluefox83 | i tried mount /dev/cdrom /cdrom |
| 03:29.55 | Phated | bluefox83: mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /cdrom |
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| 03:30.09 | bluefox83 | Phated, it's not an iso, it's a cd full of mp3's |
| 03:30.12 | Phated | bluefox83: Sub hdc for relevant. |
| 03:30.18 | bluefox83 | oh! |
| 03:30.21 | bluefox83 | dur X.X |
| 03:30.25 | Phated | bluefox83: *sigh* Just do it. |
| 03:30.45 | ulitz | greycat: where does aumix save the configs.. like the volume levels? |
| 03:30.52 | bluefox83 | muahahahaha!!! |
| 03:30.52 | Phated | bluefox83: And believe my, I've mounted plenty of CDs... -t iso9660 WORKS. ;) |
| 03:30.55 | scarynetworkguy | deadcat: http://www.scarynetworkguy.net |
| 03:31.01 | deadcat | damn. (= |
| 03:31.11 | bluefox83 | Phated, all i needed was mount /dev/hdc /cdrom |
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| 03:31.24 | Phated | bluefox83: Ahh, well, glad to help anyways. :) |
| 03:31.27 | Disposable_hero | ok guys...how do I make my apt map thingy bigger so I can have more sources? |
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| 03:31.46 | The_Vulture | Disposable_hero: 'may thingy'? |
| 03:31.56 | Disposable_hero | map* thingy |
| 03:32.01 | nailbiter | Phated, deadcat: you can use socket(1) for a one-shot file transfer. :) |
| 03:32.07 | Phated | nailbiter: Ooo. |
| 03:32.13 | streuner | Disposable_hero: man apt-get |
| 03:32.18 | deadcat | Phated: pretty basic.. and konqueror? shame on you. |
| 03:32.26 | ulitz | does anyone know where the volume settings are stored for aumix.. |
| 03:32.28 | Phated | deadcat: Eh? |
| 03:32.31 | \Igor\ | so I've got this logitech zoom cam with a built-in microphone, the microphone works with ohphone but not with gnomemeeting... any idea why? |
| 03:32.32 | scarynetworkguy | deadcat: that's mine. |
| 03:32.37 | Disposable_hero | streuner: well, yeah, I was just too lazy to go through that and hoped someone here would know |
| 03:32.40 | deadcat | nailbiter: how that work? |
| 03:32.47 | deadcat | scarynetworkguy: hehehe.. shame on you then. |
| 03:32.51 | Phated | deadcat: THAT's scarynetworkguy's I wouldn't use Konqy on XFCE4! |
| 03:32.54 | Guerin | fuck, that terminal is fucking illegible, scarynetworkguy |
| 03:33.01 | tweedle | heya |
| 03:33.02 | \Igor\ | ulitz: ~/.aumixrc or /etc/aumixrc |
| 03:33.02 | scarynetworkguy | I like Kongq cookie management code |
| 03:33.04 | streuner | Disposable_hero: well, if you are too lazy, why should we NOT lazy then? |
| 03:33.06 | Phated | :P |
| 03:33.07 | nailbiter | Phated: basically, you do -- 'tar zcvf - *.mp3 | socket -qws 1111' and deadcat does -- 'socket -qr <phated_address> 1111 | tar zxvf -' |
| 03:33.12 | scarynetworkguy | Guerin: everybody says that but it works for me. :) |
| 03:33.19 | tweedle | why would dpkg have a prob unpacking |
| 03:33.27 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: do you mind if I put yours up? |
| 03:33.27 | Phated | *stunned* Ok, let me looks through that again. |
| 03:33.30 | ulitz | thanks igor |
| 03:33.39 | Guerin | http://feayn.org/~lewis/shot.png |
| 03:33.41 | cafuego | hahaha, postfix@caffeine: received 515 mails, delivered 43 mails, rejected 466 mails |
| 03:33.43 | The_Vulture | scarynetworkguy: doesn't seem too illegible to me.. |
| 03:33.44 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Ohh, yeah, do that. :) |
| 03:33.47 | deadcat | nailbiter: damn. thats some trick. (= |
| 03:33.49 | Guerin | cafuego: nice |
| 03:33.56 | Phated | deadcat: See scarynetworkguy's site for mine too. :) |
| 03:33.58 | The_Vulture | but my long distance sight is slowly slipping away.. |
| 03:34.02 | nailbiter | deadcat: stick a '| gpg -c |' in there if you want encryption as wel. |
| 03:34.03 | deadcat | Phated: ok. |
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| 03:34.08 | Phated | cafuego: Nice trick. :) |
| 03:34.14 | deadcat | nailbiter: thanks for the trick. (= |
| 03:34.15 | Phated | deadcat: Wait for him to put it up, though. |
| 03:34.22 | deadcat | k |
| 03:34.30 | Phated | deadcat: WARNING: Diabetes ahead. |
| 03:34.35 | The_Vulture | http://skye.shacknet.nu/~vulture/screen.png |
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| 03:34.48 | bluefox83 | grub hates me ;( |
| 03:34.51 | deadcat | Phated: girrrrrl (= |
| 03:34.53 | Phated | deadcat: I was trying to give scarynetworkguy diabtetes, but since you want to see it... :) Your doom. |
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| 03:35.06 | Phated | deadcat: Seen it? |
| 03:35.21 | deadcat | nto yet |
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| 03:36.00 | scarynetworkguy | OK should be up now. |
| 03:36.15 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Nah, I have a new one that's more diabetic. You want that instead? |
| 03:36.24 | Phated | That one's old. |
| 03:36.25 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: sure why not |
| 03:36.29 | Guerin | Phated: that is not a productive environment. |
| 03:36.41 | Phated | Guerin: Of course not. But chek the new one in a bit. |
| 03:36.42 | deadcat | Phated: thats it? |
| 03:36.49 | scarynetworkguy | Guerin: no it is not |
| 03:37.22 | cafuego | woo! |
| 03:37.27 | nailbiter | heh -- http://www.gentoo.org/images/shots/edon-tux.png |
| 03:37.30 | scarynetworkguy | although the teddy's are arranged rather nicely |
| 03:37.32 | streuner | hm |
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| 03:38.05 | deadcat | Phated: are those images you added or something? |
| 03:38.09 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Thank you. Decorative touch. :) Good for a display on Christmas or something. |
| 03:38.14 | Phated | deadcat: Xteddies. :) |
| 03:38.18 | scarynetworkguy | deadcat: xteddy |
| 03:38.24 | deadcat | Phated: thats one ugly software (= |
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| 03:38.31 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: I guess so. :) |
| 03:38.31 | Phated | deadcat: *grin* |
| 03:38.38 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Should be arriving soon. :) |
| 03:38.43 | nailbiter | Guerin: nice xmms skin. :) |
| 03:39.02 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: cool |
| 03:39.14 | deadcat | Phated: well. i cant seem to get torsmo/roo-tail working on xfce4. |
| 03:39.42 | bluefox83 | yo, when i added my windows thing into grub, and ran update-grub it wiped out everything i added, whats up with that? |
| 03:39.42 | Phated | deadcat: Meaning? |
| 03:39.42 | Nurbs_ | nailbiter: is that some theme? |
| 03:40.01 | deadcat | nailbiter: screw that image from gentoo. (=. if i want a macosx i buy a mac. (= cant make something that is not. heheh |
| 03:40.03 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: sure it was. :) |
| 03:40.08 | Phated | deadcat: You have a .png that doesn't appear when you link it or something? |
| 03:40.19 | deadcat | Phated: i run root-tail but xfce4 seems to overwrite the text with the backdrop |
| 03:40.21 | nailbiter | Nurbs_: it's not my desktop. :) but it's nautilus with a custom icon theme .. |
| 03:40.38 | nailbiter | deadcat: it's really cute, though. :) |
| 03:40.44 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: *grin* Seriously though, xteddy floats on top of everything and all desktops, I couldn't work like that. |
| 03:40.54 | Nurbs_ | nailbiter: mainly wondering about the icon theme and the font :) |
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| 03:40.59 | streuner | deadcat: the icons are called 'TuxnTosh |
| 03:41.10 | deadcat | nailbiter: heheh. you think i can install that weather thing to work on fbpanel? |
| 03:41.17 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: yea always on top things are pretty evil |
| 03:41.29 | deadcat | streuner: thanks. but i am not interested. (= |
| 03:41.32 | Nurbs_ | streuner: those on the gentoo shot? :) |
| 03:41.53 | streuner | Nurbs_: yep, never found the theme for it... |
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| 03:41.56 | nailbiter | deadcat: does fbpanel take gnome panel applets? |
| 03:41.58 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: See #flood, please. |
| 03:42.04 | Nurbs | streuner: heh |
| 03:42.13 | deadcat | nailbiter: i dont know. (=.. whats the weather pkg name? |
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| 03:42.42 | nailbiter | deadcat: it's the gweather_applet in the 'gnome-applets' package. |
| 03:43.01 | deadcat | nailbiter: damn. that pkg is huge. )= |
| 03:43.06 | nailbiter | deadcat: yeah. :-P |
| 03:43.26 | streuner | Nurbs: themes are more than *only* icons... |
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| 03:43.35 | Nurbs | streuner: yes, sure. |
| 03:44.12 | deadcat | i have way too much stuff on my workspace... )= |
| 03:44.16 | BlackJudas | What's the best "cd-burner" interface you'd recommend? |
| 03:44.22 | BlackJudas | GTK of course. |
| 03:44.30 | The_Vulture | BlackJudas: cdrecord, not gtk |
| 03:44.36 | Nurbs | k3b, no gtk :P |
| 03:44.37 | Phated | BlackJudas: I hear Xcdroast. |
| 03:44.38 | streuner | Nurbs: that looks to me not like a theme there.... |
| 03:45.02 | deadcat | http://deadcat.thegunn.com/tmp/Xinerama/6.html without idesk cus the pkg was broken when i took this screenshot. (= |
| 03:45.02 | BlackJudas | The_Vulture, heheh. Mmmkay :P |
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| 03:45.18 | g4lt | does t.o still exist? |
| 03:45.29 | Phated | g4lt: Apparently it does. |
| 03:45.33 | tweedle | bloom: what did u want me to compare the console common sums against? |
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| 03:45.51 | bloom | tweedle: compare it to the listing in the bug report I told you about |
| 03:45.58 | bluefox83 | i'm having trouble with grub guys :X |
| 03:45.59 | bloom | tweedle: and paste it on #flood |
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| 03:46.36 | nailbiter | bluefox83: how so? |
| 03:47.12 | bluefox83 | nailbiter, when i add my windows stuff to grub and run update-grub it wipes out the stuff i write.. |
| 03:47.52 | deadcat | nailbiter: can i test the socket trick locally? |
| 03:48.22 | nailbiter | bluefox83: if you edit your menu.lst file by hand, don't run update-grub. :) |
| 03:48.34 | nailbiter | deadcat: yes, you can. just use 127.0.0.1 for the IP address. |
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| 03:48.52 | deadcat | nailbiter: ok.. whats the gpg -c thing again? also can nc do this too? |
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| 03:49.08 | nailbiter | deadcat: if you prefer nc, use that. :) it's a smarter socket(1). |
| 03:49.25 | tweedle | bloom: u lost me... im giving up for now |
| 03:49.26 | deadcat | nailbiter: i dont know either. but socket seems cool to know. |
| 03:49.47 | bluefox83 | nailbiter, oh.. |
| 03:49.52 | bloom | tweedle: good because even if I figure out what's wrong, I still don't know how to solve it |
| 03:49.53 | netcat | bluefox83: You are using lilo mentality on grub, don't do that. You don't need to run anything after you edit the menu.lst file. |
| 03:50.07 | BlackJudas | deadcat, what's that sexy usage graph thingie on the upper left of your desktop? |
| 03:50.16 | tweedle | :( ... yeah sucks |
| 03:50.21 | deadcat | BlackJudas: torsmo (= |
| 03:50.35 | deadcat | BlackJudas: sshonly.sytes.net/debs/ |
| 03:50.36 | BlackJudas | deadcat, :o /apt-cache search'in |
| 03:50.39 | bluefox83 | netcat, i'd run lilo instead of grub, but it's a bitch to get lilo to takek over the mbr |
| 03:50.48 | bluefox83 | *take |
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| 03:51.22 | mwilson | bluefox83: How do you figure? |
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| 03:51.44 | bluefox83 | mwilson, every time i've tried it, it didn't work.. |
| 03:51.46 | heviarti | god i hate bsd people |
| 03:51.46 | nailbiter | bluefox83: well, most lilo installations do that by default. :) |
| 03:51.53 | BlackJudas | deadcat, :/ not in the repository. |
| 03:51.57 | zinx | bluefox83: nothing wrong with grub |
| 03:52.01 | BlackJudas | :o.. |
| 03:52.14 | heviarti | when are they going to figure out that until they stop being jerks bsd is always going to play second string to linux? |
| 03:52.15 | deadcat | BlackJudas: ya. i built a .deb go to that link |
| 03:52.24 | zinx | bluefox83: read the comments in menu.lst |
| 03:52.29 | BlackJudas | deadcat, danke |
| 03:52.36 | zinx | bluefox83: and, you don't need to run update-grub except to update the automagical kernel list |
| 03:52.37 | bluefox83 | zinx, i did.. |
| 03:52.43 | zinx | bluefox83: update-grub is a debian script |
| 03:52.54 | bluefox83 | ok, so i can add the windows thing above that list? |
| 03:52.56 | mwilson | heviarti: When are people like you going to figure out how little anyone cares one way or the other? Sheesh. |
| 03:53.03 | zinx | bluefox83: anywhere not inside the comments |
| 03:53.09 | zinx | bluefox83: (the BEGIN/END pair) |
| 03:53.10 | bluefox83 | yay!!! |
| 03:53.15 | zinx | bluefox83: before -or- after |
| 03:53.27 | bluefox83 | i know, i put it before |
| 03:53.32 | netcat | bluefox83: If you want to make a backup of your master boot record you can: dd if=/dev/hda of=/boot/backup.mbr bs=512 count=1 |
| 03:53.45 | bluefox83 | hey..the grub info thing says somethign about a map thing..anyone know what it's talking about? |
| 03:53.49 | deadcat | nailbiter: can you show me the socket trick with gpg -c plz. |
| 03:53.50 | zinx | (don't restore your MBR after you've changed partitions -- the partition table is in the MBR too) |
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| 03:54.05 | heviarti | mwilson: what do you call a BSD channel on irc with no mean puritanical BSD weenies? |
| 03:54.08 | zinx | bluefox83: devices.lst? |
| 03:54.19 | heviarti | mwilson: Empty. |
| 03:54.19 | zinx | erh, device.map i guess :P |
| 03:54.28 | Xenguy | heviarti: hehe |
| 03:54.28 | zinx | bluefox83: you don't need it except to install grub |
| 03:54.38 | mwilson | heviarti: About the same as you call a Linux channel without self-righteous morons. |
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| 03:54.50 | netcat | bluefox83: That way, if you want to get back to square one just reverse the command: dd if=/boot/backup.mbr of=/dev/hda |
| 03:54.55 | tweedle | hi, im running unstable on an ibook and dpkg recently got broken... i can apt-get install $anything and i get (Reading database ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/gftp-text_2.0.17-5_powerpc.deb (--unpacshort read in buffer_copy (files list for package `console-common')... can anyone help? |
| 03:55.00 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: ping |
| 03:55.02 | merlincorey | I AM NOT A MORON! (but I might be self righteous :p) |
| 03:55.08 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Pong |
| 03:55.09 | bluefox83 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:55.09 | bluefox83 | have to use the disk swapping technique, because that OS cannot boot |
| 03:55.09 | bluefox83 | from any disks but the first one. The workaround used in GRUB is the |
| 03:55.09 | bluefox83 | command `map' (*note map::), like this: |
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| 03:55.14 | nailbiter | deadcat: 'tar -cf - *.mp3 | gpg -c | socket -qws 1111' ... 'socket -qr <address> 1111 | gpg | tar -xvf -' |
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| 03:55.21 | bluefox83 | i shoulda known better than to do that :X |
| 03:55.25 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: send that again something went wrong |
| 03:55.27 | Phated | bluefox83: Yes. |
| 03:55.29 | g4lt | tweedle blow the offending file away |
| 03:55.30 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: NO! |
| 03:55.32 | Phated | Damn. |
| 03:55.32 | bluefox83 | shame on me! |
| 03:55.38 | deadcat | nailbiter: thank you sir. gonna put it in my deb.howto file. (= |
| 03:55.42 | heviarti | mwilson: no.. #linuxhelp seems to be fairly free of those.. it's #redhat @linux and some of the debain channels on other servers that are that way |
| 03:55.43 | g4lt | merlincorey LIES! |
| 03:55.45 | tweedle | ? |
| 03:55.45 | zinx | bluefox83: you installed windows on a non-first hard disk? |
| 03:55.46 | nailbiter | deadcat: make that 'gpg -c -z9' if you want to compress before encryption. :) |
| 03:55.49 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: ? |
| 03:55.57 | bluefox83 | zinx, yup |
| 03:55.58 | deadcat | nailbiter: ok |
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| 03:56.02 | merlincorey | g4lt: shhh, there's on topic in here... |
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| 03:56.05 | zinx | bluefox83: shame :/ |
| 03:56.06 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: I hate when DCC gets borkish on he. |
| 03:56.06 | mwilson | heviarti: Pretty much any Linux advocate is a moron. |
| 03:56.10 | bluefox83 | zinx, on /dev/hdb1 to be prescice |
| 03:56.21 | zinx | bluefox83: map (hd1) (hd0) map (hd0) (hd1) |
| 03:56.22 | bluefox83 | er..*prescise |
| 03:56.26 | g4lt | tweedle files in /var/cache/apt/archives aren't that particularly necessary after you've attempted to install the packages |
| 03:56.27 | Phated | mwilson: Hey, hey! Aren't we all linux advocates here. :) |
| 03:56.33 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: I hear that |
| 03:56.39 | Xenguy | mwilson: now there's a generalization for ya ;-) |
| 03:56.43 | bluefox83 | zinx, where do i put that lovely little bit of stuff? |
| 03:56.45 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: :) Also, how'd you use themes on xfce4? |
| 03:56.47 | heviarti | mwilson: you know... this might not be a good channel to say that in |
| 03:56.49 | mwilson | Phated: Dunno about you, but I'm certainly not. "advocate" is a dirty word. |
| 03:56.52 | zinx | bluefox83: in the menu option |
| 03:56.53 | merlincorey | Phated: if you ever read the mIRC forums, they say it's because DCC is only meant to send small files, and badly... |
| 03:57.04 | Phated | mwilson: "Supporter". Better? ;) |
| 03:57.12 | Phated | merlincorey: Er, hello, IRSSI. :) |
| 03:57.20 | mwilson | Phated: Read COLA or slashcrap and note what kind of people call themselves "advocates". |
| 03:57.34 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: I've just played with the basic stuff in the setting panel so far. |
| 03:57.36 | merlincorey | Phated: *nod* doesn't mean you might not ever read forums :p |
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| 03:57.39 | Phated | mwilson: They are not true advocates. |
| 03:57.48 | Phated | merlincorey: :) |
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| 03:58.09 | Phated | mwilson: They are a shadow of what real Linux advocates are. They, for one, have no brain. :) |
| 03:58.21 | merlincorey | Phated: I forget not everyone is as into IRC as I am; I read forums for about 10 differnt clients... |
| 03:58.25 | bluefox83 | zinx, uhm...where ? |
| 03:58.34 | zinx | bluefox83: uhm, after 'title' and before 'boot' |
| 03:58.36 | Phated | merlincorey: You scary, scary, person. O_o |
| 03:58.56 | merlincorey | yes, and I can't spell "different", either... |
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| 03:59.03 | merlincorey | thouhgt we tackled that one in second grade :/ |
| 03:59.06 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: you sure on that file? It looks just like the one you sent yesterday |
| 03:59.12 | Phated | merlincorey: Yes, that too, but I didn't like to say it. ;) |
| 03:59.17 | merlincorey | lol |
| 03:59.18 | zinx | bluefox83: that was two separate lines, by the way |
| 03:59.22 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Compare and contrast, my good man. |
| 03:59.25 | zinx | bluefox83: (the two 'map's i gave) |
| 03:59.35 | bluefox83 | ok.. |
| 03:59.36 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Cuter teddies. :) |
| 03:59.49 | merlincorey | lol, you 'n your teddies... |
| 03:59.54 | merlincorey | :P |
| 03:59.55 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: :) like I'm gonna notice that |
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| 04:00.02 | dabreegster | Hey |
| 04:00.02 | bluefox83 | zinx, can you join #flood a moment while i show you what i have? |
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| 04:00.27 | zinx | bluefox83: just paste via /query |
| 04:00.46 | zinx | bluefox83: i'm too lazy to allocate another window for a channel right now :) |
| 04:00.59 | tweedle | g4lt: i dont think u understand my problem... `dpkg -i $anything.deb` produces "short read in buffer_copy (files list for package `console-common')" and it fails |
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| 04:01.24 | bluefox83 | lol zinx |
| 04:01.27 | tweedle | $anything.deb being any deb file in existance |
| 04:01.33 | heviarti | niaht: where the heck is the .config under bsd? |
| 04:01.35 | BlackJudas | deadcat, does torsmo handle connections/stats for other machines? :/ |
| 04:01.44 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Loser, you are. ;) </poking-fun> |
| 04:01.46 | deadcat | nailbiter: i am getting:tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors |
| 04:02.02 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: very true great big old loser. :) |
| 04:02.03 | deadcat | BlackJudas: what you mean? dont think so |
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| 04:02.17 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: How did you use the XFCE4 themes off themes.org? |
| 04:02.30 | BlackJudas | deadcat, much like gkrellm ... err ... I just realized I can ssh forward it :) \o/ |
| 04:02.40 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Well, on t.o, they're xfce themes, but anyway? |
| 04:02.48 | deadcat | BlackJudas: hehe |
| 04:02.50 | nailbiter | deadcat: what was the actual error? |
| 04:02.58 | g4lt | tweedle if I didn't understand your problem, it's because you aren't stating it very well... |
| 04:02.59 | deadcat | nailbiter: #flood? |
| 04:03.19 | tweedle | seems to be |
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| 04:03.37 | BlackJudas | OMFG hahaha. The cupsys http control is so super sexy, it's for blind people... aaaahahahahah... wow... carry on.. |
| 04:04.41 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: http://themes.freshmeat.net/articles/view/465/#xfce-use |
| 04:05.07 | deadcat | nailbiter: damn good trick. (= |
| 04:05.11 | tweedle | g4lt: please see #flood |
| 04:05.20 | timzter | razor-check alone works great, but spamassassin sucks so far...it marks legitimate email as spam. Am I missing something!? |
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| 04:05.38 | bluefox83 | what was that trick all about? |
| 04:05.52 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Thanks. :) |
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| 04:06.06 | nailbiter | timzter: raise the spamassassin's scoring threshold if you find too many false positives |
| 04:06.16 | Nurbs | timzter: check why it marks them as spam, too |
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| 04:06.22 | timzter | Nurbs: how? |
| 04:06.31 | Nurbs | timzter: look at the headers or logs |
| 04:06.34 | kingsley | timzter: Headers |
| 04:06.35 | timzter | ok |
| 04:06.52 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: but that does not seem to work. :( |
| 04:07.13 | nailbiter | timzter: see the X-Spam-Report header. it'll list all the rules that marked the mail towards spam. |
| 04:07.26 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: EXACTLY. What did YOU do? For that cute caffeince thingy? |
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| 04:07.57 | Nurbs | Aug 4 06:56:55 mojo-jojo spamd[2862]: identified spam (34.0/5.0) for tom:1002 in 14.4 seconds, 4254 bytes. |
| 04:07.58 | Nurbs | rofl |
| 04:08.06 | timzter | nailbiter: The header shows: X-SPAM-Flag: NO |
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| 04:08.20 | Nurbs | timzter: what are you complaining about then? :) |
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| 04:08.39 | nailbiter | timzter: in that case, spamassassin didn't detect the message as spam. :) weren't you filtering on X-Spam-Flag anyhow? |
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| 04:09.06 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: oh that's just a background that I stole by unpacking a diffrent theme entirely by hand |
| 04:09.41 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Bah. :) |
| 04:09.44 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: that's just under settings, Desktop: background |
| 04:09.53 | BlackJudas | Is it 'dumb' of me to move exim's default mail delivery to $home/mail/inbox? :x |
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| 04:09.53 | Nurbs | 43.8 seems to be the highest score so far, hmm |
| 04:09.55 | nailbiter | deadcat: yeah. :) notice how: 1) you didn't have to create any accounts 2) you could apply encryption/compression as needed 3) it works really well for lots of small files 4) you don't need a special client (even Perl can substitute for socket(1)) |
| 04:09.58 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: That I know. :) |
| 04:10.17 | timzter | Nurbs: ok maybe my procmailrc rule was written wrong. This is what I have: :0 Wc : /tmp/spamc.lock \n | spamc \n :0 Waf \n | formail -i "Subject: SPAM --$SUBJECT" <--- could my rule be wrong (assume \n means new line) |
| 04:10.24 | Nurbs | I don't use procmail |
| 04:10.27 | tweedle | are there other debian irc help channels? |
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| 04:10.50 | deadcat | nailbiter: really? you have to command using perl instead of socket(1)? (= |
| 04:10.54 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: Just a second I'm still looking. :) |
| 04:11.00 | simonrvn | BlackJudas: /join #exim |
| 04:11.02 | niaht | tweedle: I would assume so. |
| 04:11.07 | timzter | Nurbs: The legitimate incoming mail had the subject changed like I specified inthe rule, so it means to me that spamc considered it to be spam |
| 04:11.14 | nailbiter | timzter: you'll need to split that over two rules -- one to filter with spamc, and another to redirect based on the X-Spam-Flag. |
| 04:11.20 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Me too. |
| 04:11.26 | Nurbs | timzter: or that your rule is wrong? :) |
| 04:11.27 | nailbiter | deadcat: sure .. i'll whip up the one-liner |
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| 04:11.42 | deadcat | nailbiter: nice. (= |
| 04:11.43 | timzter | Nurbs: Yes, possibly..I am green to procmailrc |
| 04:11.55 | deadcat | nailbiter: i am writing a function to do this so i dont ahve to remember it. heheh |
| 04:12.10 | timzter | nailbiter: I thought I had 2 rules there. |
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| 04:12.38 | BlackJudas | simonrvn, did :) |
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| 04:14.32 | nailbiter | timzter: the second rule isn't filtering on X-Spam, as far as i can see .. |
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| 04:15.14 | nailbiter | deadcat: "socket -qws 1111" is equivalent to "perl -MIO::Socket -e '$c = IO::Socket::INET->new(Listen => 1, LocalPort => $ARGV[0])->accept; print $c $buf while read STDIN, $buf, 8192' 1111" |
| 04:15.27 | deadcat | nailbiter: good lord. (= |
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| 04:15.32 | timzter | nailbiter: I used the same rule that I used with razor-check (which I have now commented out). Substitute spamc with razor-check. That's what I had allalong, so I thought spamc works the same waay |
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| 04:16.21 | spotter | can anyone running unstable see if moz or firefox crashes for them on a certain page? |
| 04:16.30 | deadcat | nailbiter: well. is the socket.pm available for most perl pkg? |
| 04:16.45 | nailbiter | deadcat: it ships with the core Perl 5 distribution. |
| 04:16.49 | deadcat | cool |
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| 04:16.56 | nailbiter | deadcat: and finally, "socket -qr localhost 1111" is equivalent to "perl -MIO::Socket -e '$c = IO::Socket::INET->new("$ARGV[0]:$ARGV[1]"); print $buf while read $c, $buf, 8192' localhost 1111" |
| 04:17.04 | spotter | http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A50560-2004Aug8.html |
| 04:17.12 | deadcat | nailbiter: nice. thanks |
| 04:17.17 | spotter | does that crash anyone elses moz on unstable? |
| 04:17.29 | Phated | spotter: Does -what- crash mox? |
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| 04:17.31 | Phated | moz* |
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| 04:17.45 | spotter | Phated: the above url |
| 04:17.46 | Phated | spotter: Describe it, I'll try to replicate. |
| 04:17.50 | spotter | I go to the url |
| 04:17.51 | Xenguy | spotter: works on FF here |
| 04:17.52 | spotter | moz crashes |
| 04:17.57 | spotter | bot moz and firefox |
| 04:17.59 | spotter | no plugins |
| 04:17.59 | Phated | spotter: If it's a problem, just say what you do? |
| 04:18.03 | spotter | running unstable |
| 04:18.07 | spotter | I go to the page |
| 04:18.08 | spotter | moz crashes |
| 04:18.16 | Phated | spotter: Hang on. |
| 04:18.23 | niaht | #fandanta is this silly client horked? |
| 04:18.26 | niaht | oops |
| 04:18.30 | nailbiter | timzter: well, i use something like ":0:\n* ^X-Spam-Status: Yes\nJunkFolder" .. you could substitute JunkFolder with the 'formail' subject-renamer command .. |
| 04:18.34 | kingsley | Moz 1.6-5 pulled up a registration page without crashing. |
| 04:18.40 | spotter | Xenguy, what package? |
| 04:18.48 | Xenguy | spotter: works on Moz also here |
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| 04:19.19 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: ok so you download the theme you want. Then umpack it into /usr/share/xfwm4/theme |
| 04:19.24 | spotter | Xenguy, can you msg me results of ldd `which /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox-bin` |
| 04:19.26 | simonrvn | i'm trying to set up some rules to do some stats tracking on a service i run... |
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| 04:19.30 | spotter | no need for which |
| 04:19.32 | timzter | nailbiter: ok let me mull over that rule. SOOO arcane!! |
| 04:19.34 | simonrvn | ...and i want to set up a user chain for this, but i don't know how i can set up -j LOG, with the user chain i want to use |
| 04:19.35 | Xenguy | spotter: mozilla-firefox 0.8-9 |
| 04:19.51 | spotter | Xenguy, stable? |
| 04:19.52 | simonrvn | one question i have is does iptables accept two -j targets? and if so, then my problem is fixed, isn't it? if not, how should i do this? |
| 04:19.52 | spotter | testing? |
| 04:19.57 | spotter | i'm running 0.9-3 |
| 04:20.19 | nailbiter | timzter: you could say it's either pure madness or unadulterated power. :) |
| 04:20.32 | Phated | spotter: Works fine on Moz for me. |
| 04:20.34 | timzter | nailbiter: it's power once you understand it |
| 04:20.35 | Ignignot_ | how do I find out the display name in X ? |
| 04:20.36 | simonrvn | nailbiter: a little of both IMO ;) |
| 04:20.43 | Xenguy | spotter: this is sid |
| 04:20.47 | simonrvn | Ignignot_: it's usually :0 |
| 04:20.57 | g4lt | !info mozilla-firefox |
| 04:20.57 | spotter | sid is unstable or testing? |
| 04:21.02 | simonrvn | xdpyinfo otherwise |
| 04:21.04 | g4lt | grrr |
| 04:21.06 | g4lt | !info mozilla-firefox sid |
| 04:21.10 | timzter | nailbiter: I am still unsure how it processes exit-codes. man razor-check says it returns 0 (if spam) or 1 (if not spam)...I am not clear how the rules/recipes use this exitcode |
| 04:21.13 | Ignignot_ | simonrvn: tks |
| 04:21.14 | dpkg | mozilla-firefox: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 0.9.3-1 (sid), Packaged size: 9601 kB, Installed size: 28008 kB |
| 04:21.16 | Xenguy | spotter: mozilla-browser 1.6-4 |
| 04:21.25 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: And then? |
| 04:21.39 | spotter | I have 1.7.2-1 |
| 04:21.41 | g4lt | spotter you're about three minor versions off.... |
| 04:21.47 | Xenguy | spotter: unstable == sid |
| 04:21.58 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Ohh, and that's about it, I guess. :) |
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| 04:22.03 | spotter | g4lt, I was wrong |
| 04:22.11 | spotter | 0.9.3-1 |
| 04:22.18 | spotter | read it too fast |
| 04:22.31 | Phated | spotter: I'm on Mozilla 1.7.2 |
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| 04:22.47 | Phated | spotter: Try upgrading your Moz? |
| 04:22.48 | simonrvn | fuck it, i'll figure it out |
| 04:22.54 | spotter | I bet it's the experimental gnome stuff |
| 04:23.17 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: and then it should show up in your settings panel looks like you have to change the window decorations and icons and the other stuff. The one I grabbed did not come with a background. but there are plenty of backgrounds by themeselves on themes.org :) |
| 04:23.17 | Phated | spotter: Ahhh. NOW you tell us you have experimental GNOME.... :| |
| 04:23.36 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Ahh, I see. I'll try that. :) |
| 04:23.48 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: they always wait til the last minute. :) |
| 04:23.54 | spotter | Phated, gnome is stable, it's stupid mozilla that isnt |
| 04:24.23 | scarynetworkguy | shiny new icons :) |
| 04:24.27 | dabreegster | spotter: if you want stable software, use sarge or woody. |
| 04:24.27 | spotter | anyone have any idea on how I can try debugging moz? |
| 04:24.40 | spotter | dabreegster, I can deal w/ it |
| 04:24.48 | dabreegster | spotter: ok, just advice |
| 04:25.11 | niaht | simonrvn: not sure what you were trying to do, and I've got a massive headache so I'm feeling kinda fuzzy, but I just wanted to mention that for many iptables related things, I have found that shorewall can be very helpful in leu of building your own direct iptables config. |
| 04:25.11 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Yes, exactly. |
| 04:25.34 | Phated | spotter: Hey, I have Mozilla 1.7.2, it's perfectly stable for me. You're using experimental. HOw is that my fault? |
| 04:25.34 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: oh well :) |
| 04:25.38 | bluefox83 | bout how long should it take to move 700mb of mp3's to a secondary hard drive? |
| 04:25.44 | Phated | Sheesh. |
| 04:25.49 | Phated | bluefox83: Get a book. :) |
| 04:26.01 | niaht | bluefox83: depends on a number of factors :) |
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| 04:26.13 | bluefox83 | oh come on..it took about 30 seconds to burn them all on tehre! |
| 04:26.15 | angrylinuxgeek | bluefox83: try hdparm -t <harddrive> |
| 04:26.26 | bluefox83 | O.o |
| 04:26.27 | Phated | bluefox83: I'm kidding, kidding! |
| 04:26.52 | Phated | Utterly abused. |
| 04:26.52 | spotter | think I figured it out |
| 04:26.59 | scarynetworkguy | !comfort Phated |
| 04:26.59 | dpkg | There, there, Phated. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 04:27.05 | bluefox83 | hehe |
| 04:27.18 | niaht | oops |
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| 04:27.20 | bluefox83 | compassionately |
| 04:27.26 | niaht | thanks bluefox83 |
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| 04:27.37 | bluefox83 | what does hdparm -t <target> do? |
| 04:27.38 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: TANJ |
| 04:27.44 | Phated | !tank |
| 04:27.46 | Phated | !tanJ |
| 04:27.46 | dpkg | [tanj] There Ain't No Justice |
| 04:27.54 | spotter | yay for strace |
| 04:28.03 | niaht | spotter: you got that right |
| 04:28.06 | Xenguy | spotter: what was the prob |
| 04:28.06 | spotter | perms were bad on truetype fonts I added to free type cache |
| 04:28.09 | bluefox83 | this seems like it will take a while.. |
| 04:28.15 | spotter | 400 |
| 04:28.27 | spotter | so moz tried opening fonts directly through freetype and couldnt |
| 04:28.29 | spotter | and crashed |
| 04:29.13 | Phated | g4lt: *grin* |
| 04:29.25 | Phated | g4lt: WTF is bocce ball, anyways? |
| 04:29.29 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: and that is why young geeks grow up to be bitter and violent. :) |
| 04:29.30 | simonrvn | niaht: i found shorewall to be a PITA |
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| 04:29.46 | g4lt | Phated lawn bowling |
| 04:29.48 | cartel | hi all |
| 04:29.50 | niaht | simonrvn: really? I'm surprised.. |
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| 04:29.57 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Like myself, and I haven't even progressed into full adulthood. |
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| 04:30.01 | Phated | g4lt: Ahhh... |
| 04:30.07 | cartel | whats the official debian store |
| 04:30.13 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: it starts early. :) |
| 04:30.13 | niaht | simonrvn: I guess it does take a wee bit of getting used to. |
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| 04:30.18 | cartel | where i can get a polo and all the proceeds will go to the project? |
| 04:30.26 | Phated | cartel: Check at d.o |
| 04:30.30 | niaht | simonrvn: and one *must* run the latest. |
| 04:30.39 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: It does indeed... I'm hunching already. :| |
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| 04:31.04 | vkd | sorry, prism54 is sort of quiet, anyone know if there is some test driver branch that allows to use Prism54 cards with WPA? |
| 04:31.06 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: :( that's no good |
| 04:31.19 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Aye, indeed. |
| 04:31.28 | Guerin | !flw6 |
| 04:31.28 | dpkg | i guess flw6 is <coredmp> Guerin : umm...latest is always bettter when it comes to functionality |
| 04:33.16 | cartel | dpkg tell me about debian store |
| 04:33.17 | niaht | hunching, eyes getting blury, body tired, hating all which is from shit... |
| 04:33.28 | Phated | niaht: Yeah, kind of like you. |
| 04:33.33 | niaht | Phated: doh. |
| 04:33.51 | Phated | debian-store |
| 04:33.53 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: brutal. Well played :) |
| 04:33.56 | niaht | lol |
| 04:34.21 | niaht | Well.. no question you are getting the hang of it.. |
| 04:34.25 | Phated | I am indeed getting brutal... BOFH syndrome, definitely. |
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| 04:34.44 | Phated | Bitch Operator From Hell. :) |
| 04:35.09 | scarynetworkguy | on second thought maybe it is a good idea that they don't have many firearms in .sg :) |
| 04:35.33 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: Simon is a god |
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| 04:36.14 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: God? He -created- the Gods. :) |
| 04:36.38 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Alos, yes, true. |
| 04:36.40 | Phated | Also* |
| 04:36.48 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: :) |
| 04:37.36 | yarjar | >_> |
| 04:37.58 | bluefox83 | ... |
| 04:38.13 | Phated | dabreegster: OK, that fell flat. ;) |
| 04:38.13 | scarynetworkguy | and it is *not* a good thing when a BOFH starts grining |
| 04:38.15 | bluefox83 | who the heck is simon? |
| 04:38.22 | Phated | bluefox83: *gasp* |
| 04:38.28 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Like myself. |
| 04:38.30 | scarynetworkguy | bluefox83: the BOFH |
| 04:38.38 | bluefox83 | BOFH? |
| 04:38.52 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: exactly. My favorite ever was the etherkiller |
| 04:38.53 | NeoSadist | b*stard operator from h*ll |
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| 04:39.05 | bluefox83 | oh!!!! |
| 04:39.12 | bluefox83 | i remember that website..was kickass |
| 04:39.21 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Hell yeah! |
| 04:39.26 | bluefox83 | f*ckin hilarious |
| 04:39.55 | dabreegster | Wait, that can't be right.. :-p |
| 04:39.58 | scarynetworkguy | http://www.theregister.co.uk/odds/bofh/ |
| 04:39.58 | bluefox83 | i liked when he told the guy to touch the two leads on the power supply..lol |
| 04:40.12 | Phated | dabreegster: *sigh* Kiddo, you're not bitter enough for the BOFH leagues yet. :) |
| 04:40.17 | scarynetworkguy | that also has all the original usenet ones. :) Yay for El Reg |
| 04:40.22 | g4lt | dabreegster I've heard of verbal masturbation, but never quite that badly.... |
| 04:40.29 | bluefox83 | lmao |
| 04:40.38 | niaht | yup.. it's gettin late |
| 04:40.38 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: REAlly? Awesome. Now, where's this archive thingy? |
| 04:40.45 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: yuppers :) |
| 04:40.45 | Phated | g4lt: Harsh. |
| 04:41.00 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Where, where? |
| 04:41.08 | dabreegster | bluefox83: excuse #71: the filesystem is full of it |
| 04:41.13 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: just a second I know I've seen it |
| 04:41.22 | bluefox83 | my infobot is spoce to get an excuse from that website every day, but the website that supplied the excuses was taken down ages ago =( |
| 04:41.39 | niaht | http://www.theregister.co.uk/odds/bofh/ |
| 04:41.52 | g4lt | bluefox83 it wasn't a website, it was a telnet server |
| 04:41.54 | Phated | BOFH excuse #308: CD-ROM server needs recalibration |
| 04:42.01 | bluefox83 | ya, that's right.. |
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| 04:42.20 | Phated | bluefox83: Get the fortune-mod program and install the bofh-excuses file. ;) |
| 04:42.24 | character61 | hello all |
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| 04:42.39 | dabreegster | BOFH excuse #436: Daemon escaped from pentagram |
| 04:42.46 | Phated | BOFH excuse #365: parallel processors running perpendicular today |
| 04:42.50 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: http://bofh.ntk.net/Bastard.html |
| 04:42.57 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Ooo. |
| 04:43.05 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Thank you. |
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| 04:43.19 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: anytime |
| 04:43.22 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Only me. :) |
| 04:43.28 | Guerin | my friend attended the Waikato University CS dept while the original BOFH was BOFH there |
| 04:43.29 | character61 | not really...just greeting everyone equally.... |
| 04:43.30 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: On second thought... That's pretty bad. |
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| 04:43.33 | g4lt | scarynetworkguy mass simony? ;P |
| 04:43.33 | Guerin | or so he tells me |
| 04:43.39 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: and that is more than enough. |
| 04:43.41 | niaht | nothing they can't handle.. or at least it will scare them entirely away. |
| 04:43.43 | Phated | Guerin: NO, really? Cool. |
| 04:43.45 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: :) |
| 04:43.55 | scarynetworkguy | g4lt: well somebody has to teach them their heritage. :) |
| 04:44.14 | Phated | niaht: Nothing that will own them. |
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| 04:44.25 | Guerin | he was fucking useless, despite having first class honors in CS, so I dunno how well Mr. Travaglia would have liked him... |
| 04:44.32 | g4lt | for those of you that missed that pun.... |
| 04:44.34 | dabreegster | "You need more disk space?" clickety click "There ya go. Your files were deleted? Oh, that's the static charge from your shirt..." |
| 04:44.36 | g4lt | !dict simony |
| 04:44.38 | dpkg | Dictionary 'simony' traffic in ecclesiastical offices or preferments |
| 04:44.41 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: :) |
| 04:45.03 | Phated | dabreegster: Much better. |
| 04:45.11 | dabreegster | Phated: really? *sigh* |
| 04:45.22 | Phated | dabreegster: Yep. :) |
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| 04:45.53 | MrCarrotfeet | hi folks |
| 04:46.10 | Phated | Again with someone who wants 659 responses. |
| 04:47.04 | Phated | g4lt: I think we scared him off. |
| 04:47.15 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: g4lt good work |
| 04:47.30 | Guerin | we should make a factoid which floods anyone with n = #people in debian hi responses |
| 04:47.34 | Phated | Damn. And we were only kidding... Imagine if we'd been serious... |
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| 04:47.47 | Phated | Guerin: Ooo. |
| 04:47.47 | scarynetworkguy | Guerin: excellent :) |
| 04:47.53 | niaht | I have a fond memory about the use of the atomic clock to set the time on our computer systems at a certain government facility. Seems some folks were worried about the potential radiation exposure. |
| 04:48.13 | g4lt | Guerin I don't thing you can set N very easily from within a factoid :/ |
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| 04:48.21 | amphi | niaht: :) |
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| 04:48.36 | scarynetworkguy | g4lt: no but it would be worth it. |
| 04:48.38 | bluefox83 | hey, is this a new version of the old site? i thought i read all of these, and he was workign at some college or something.. |
| 04:48.51 | yarjar | hey all |
| 04:48.58 | scarynetworkguy | bluefox83: are you looking at El Reg? |
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| 04:49.07 | Phated | Guerin: MAKE THAT FACTOID now. |
| 04:49.08 | niaht | It was about halloween time, so we placed the threating atomic clock on the counter of the MIS department. Nobody but us ate the candy that year. |
| 04:49.19 | niaht | threatening |
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| 04:50.32 | bluefox83 | www.theregister.co.uk right? |
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| 04:50.58 | scarynetworkguy | bluefox83: yea there is a link at the bottom of each one to the originals. But the new ones are great also |
| 04:51.13 | Phated | niaht: GEt this. I was sitting in front of a completely computer illiterate classmate in the comp labs once, and I pulled out the PS/2 connector, and watched her panic for a bit, then plugged it back in and listened to her exclamations. Asked her what had happened, she explained, and ... "NO, no, see, the mouse cable must have been tangled, so they were crossing each other, and the signals crossed each other out! Believe me, I -know- these th |
| 04:51.19 | Phated | Yikes. |
| 04:51.55 | niaht | lol |
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| 04:52.12 | niaht | I feel sorry for ... nevermind.. no I don't... |
| 04:52.25 | Guerin | someone could probably write a perl script which does it... |
| 04:52.40 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: that is a pretty good one. |
| 04:52.46 | Phated | That was a ton of fun, really. Cruel, but oh well. She tried to keep the mouse cable completely straight for the rest of the *one-hour* lesson... |
| 04:52.51 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Aye, it was FUN! |
| 04:52.59 | Guerin | hahah |
| 04:53.07 | Phated | God, I kill myself. |
| 04:53.26 | niaht | A friend of mine came back from a conference and gave me that thinkgeek shirt that says "go away or I will replace you with a very small shell script".. Kinda sorta looking forward to wearing tht to the company meeting on monday.. |
| 04:53.40 | Phated | dabreegster: You can't do that. |
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| 04:53.52 | dabreegster | Phated: believe me... read my quotes file and you will :-P |
| 04:54.08 | g4lt | Phated my fvorite play was when myself an d a con-conspirator convinced this girl that not only had we gotten her speakers to act as microphones, but her monitor to act as a camer as well |
| 04:54.17 | Phated | BOFH excuse #430: Mouse has out-of-cheese-error |
| 04:54.17 | vkd | niaht, where a shirt and a tie, it'll look better |
| 04:54.23 | vkd | wear that is :( |
| 04:54.27 | MrCarrotfeet | hi folks. I just did a netinstall of Sarge with the new "gui" installer. not bad. quick question... how do I change the "resolution" of the console? I've never had to do that before. |
| 04:54.30 | Phated | g4lt: HAHA! How was that done! |
| 04:54.51 | niaht | vkd: ehehe.. not a bad idea. Though, they would kinda be weirded out by the tie since nobody here wears more than jeans and t-shirts. |
| 04:54.52 | Phated | My, my, sarge has a GUI installer. WHAT IS THE WORLD COMING TO? |
| 04:54.56 | mauro | Why the hdparm'settings are lost when I reboot my computer? |
| 04:55.07 | scarynetworkguy | Lets see I told the remote control power strip story yesterday. Another good one was setting peoples terminals to be black text on a black background |
| 04:55.13 | vkd | niaht, what company is that? |
| 04:55.14 | MrCarrotfeet | Phated: hehe yeah |
| 04:55.16 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Yeah... |
| 04:55.24 | nailbiter | mauro: if you have a recent 'hdparm' package, edit /etc/hdparm.conf to have them re-applied at boot |
| 04:55.34 | g4lt | Phated the co-conspirator and I were on talk on my computer from the lab the target was in while I emailed the target telling her what she was saying and doing |
| 04:55.34 | niaht | vkd: A major outdoor gear company. |
| 04:55.49 | Phated | g4lt: Excellent. |
| 04:55.57 | MrCarrotfeet | so changing the resolution of the console. Is that something that has to be passed on at boot from grub? |
| 04:56.02 | nailbiter | scarynetworkguy: someone broke into my workstation once and loaded a dvorak keymap on me .. |
| 04:56.03 | vkd | niaht, Cabellas? EMS? Dicks? |
| 04:56.12 | scarynetworkguy | Or the time we stuck a Knoppix cd in the bosses PC and had him convinced he had been "hacked" |
| 04:56.21 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Excellent! |
| 04:56.42 | MrCarrotfeet | heh |
| 04:56.45 | g4lt | Phated it was a wind'ohs computer, she telnetted into my home computer |
| 04:56.51 | niaht | vkd: Bigger.. and less retail oriented. |
| 04:56.59 | g4lt | gah |
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| 04:57.04 | Phated | g4lt: Ohhh, I see. No one at school knows how to telnet. :| |
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| 04:57.08 | g4lt | Phated it was a wind'ohs computer, the co-conspirator telnetted into my home computer |
| 04:57.11 | vkd | niaht, alright |
| 04:57.12 | nailbiter | MrCarrotfeet: well, you can either pass it in as a boot parameter, or use the 'fbset' tool to change the framebuffer's resolution. |
| 04:57.16 | Phated | g4lt: Ahhh. |
| 04:57.22 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: this is a fun little toy in a winders environment http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/bluescreensaver.shtml |
| 04:57.24 | yarjar | dabreegster: I wish. Our school only has Macs. :( |
| 04:57.29 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Oh, yes. :) |
| 04:57.37 | g4lt | Phated ...and nobody over here would think that you could do that |
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| 04:57.41 | Phated | Eh, Macs are better than Dowses. |
| 04:57.42 | MrCarrotfeet | nailbiter Thanks :) I'll check that out |
| 04:57.46 | dabreegster | yarjar: I'm sure there's some fun you could get up in to... |
| 04:57.47 | niaht | vkd: Would you feel comfy revealing your place of work to 600+ mostly lurking who-knows-whats-its? :) |
| 04:57.50 | Phated | g4lt: Telnet in .sg? |
| 04:58.00 | Phated | niaht: I would. |
| 04:58.03 | yarjar | dabreegster: True... |
| 04:58.05 | vkd | niaht, I said alright :) that's fine |
| 04:58.11 | nailbiter | MrCarrotfeet: if you're not using a framebuffer (check with 'cat /proc/fb'), have a look at the 'svgatextmode' package instead. |
| 04:58.15 | niaht | vkd: Sorry, just pointing that out. |
| 04:58.17 | g4lt | Phated why not? you could use putty as well |
| 04:58.26 | yarjar | I should find some way to make all of the Macs have goatse as a background. |
| 04:58.27 | niaht | Phated: yer a student though right? |
| 04:58.34 | Phated | g4lt: I dunno. :) |
| 04:58.37 | Phated | niaht: Yeah. :) |
| 04:58.42 | yarjar | Now that would be hilarity. |
| 04:58.58 | niaht | Phated: takes me back... |
| 04:59.01 | Phated | yarjar: Inelegant. But definitely possible. |
| 04:59.02 | MrCarrotfeet | nailbiter: is one better than another? |
| 04:59.06 | scarynetworkguy | And then when I worked at an ISP and had DSL. We gave ourselves access to the interneatl LAN and put VNC and telent dameons on all the suppport machines. We would then set at home during the day and fuck with the day shifts minds. :) |
| 04:59.08 | Phated | niaht: NO, no, when did you start Linux? |
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| 04:59.19 | yarjar | Phated: *starts researching* |
| 04:59.22 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Awesome. :) |
| 04:59.27 | Phated | yarjar: :) |
| 04:59.31 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: it was pretty cool |
| 04:59.33 | niaht | Phated: lessee... 1990 or 91 or something... |
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| 04:59.42 | yarjar | Actually the library has a ton of Windows computers. I could have some fun with those too. |
| 04:59.42 | MrCarrotfeet | nailbiter: yeah nothing in /proc/fb ....... i'll look at svgatextmode |
| 04:59.44 | mauro | Ok, now tel me: I must write exactly the command, options and parameters that I write in bash? |
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| 04:59.51 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Yeah... "We are watching you. PUT DOWN THAT DONUT!" |
| 04:59.54 | g4lt | Phated the bad part is it's no fun to do that over here anymore, all the labs have Axis cameras on them anyways, so you CAN see what people are doing :/ |
| 04:59.56 | Phated | niaht: :) |
| 05:00.02 | Phated | g4lt: Boring. |
| 05:00.03 | c0ywulf | in vi, how to move the current line into the center of the screen together with the cursor? |
| 05:00.16 | tcsetattr | c0ywulf, zz |
| 05:00.18 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: yea and randomly rebooting on them. :) |
| 05:00.24 | Phated | tcsetattr: Ahem. ZZ. |
| 05:00.33 | c0ywulf | tcsetattr: thanks |
| 05:00.38 | tcsetattr | Phated, ZZ is save and exit. zz is center current line... |
| 05:00.39 | vkd | niaht, which version? |
| 05:00.43 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: *laughs* Sheer, inelegant, hilarious GENIUS. |
| 05:00.53 | Phated | c0ywulf: No, no, ZZ. Capitals. |
| 05:01.08 | tcsetattr | well, maybe 'z.' -- 'z.' and 'zz' both work in vim and I forget which one is standard |
| 05:01.09 | c0ywulf | Phated: lol |
| 05:01.32 | Phated | c0ywulf: They're capitalised, never forget vi is case-sensitive, as is most of Linux. |
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| 05:01.39 | niaht | vkd: Well.. I think it was 1991, and I *think* the version was 0.01. |
| 05:01.51 | tcsetattr | ok, 'z.' is standard and 'zz' is the vim extension (which doesn't move the cursor to the begining of the line) |
| 05:02.35 | Phated | I use vim. |
| 05:02.36 | c0ywulf | Phated: i've used ZZ for month, don't try to piss me ;p |
| 05:02.46 | dabreegster | Phated: only for a few days now. ;) |
| 05:02.49 | Phated | c0ywulf: Oh, but 'tis fun. |
| 05:02.54 | Phated | dabreegster: Coupel weeks. |
| 05:02.54 | vkd | niaht, what that redhat back then ? |
| 05:02.56 | Phated | coupel* |
| 05:02.59 | vkd | niaht, or debian? |
| 05:02.59 | Phated | couple* |
| 05:02.59 | niaht | vkd: Trying to remember when we first got onto the "Internet" |
| 05:03.04 | niaht | vkd: rofl.. |
| 05:03.05 | yarjar | Meh, the next gnome-panel had better support the URGENT hint, or... or... |
| 05:03.19 | dabreegster | Phated: eh? really? |
| 05:03.25 | g4lt | c0ywulf well, yeah, you're solid, you'd be like a HUGE kidneystone.... |
| 05:03.27 | scarynetworkguy | niaht: gopher at college in 1989 for me |
| 05:03.47 | vkd | yarjar, it doesn't now? |
| 05:03.56 | yarjar | vkd: Nope. |
| 05:04.06 | vkd | yarjar, icewm's taskbar does |
| 05:04.07 | c0ywulf | g4lt: i am ;) |
| 05:04.09 | nailbiter | vkd: there weren't any distributions that early on. :) people were expected to assemble the whole system from snapshots and source tarballs by themselves .. |
| 05:04.11 | Phated | dabreegster: Dunno. |
| 05:04.21 | vkd | nailbiter, I see, ok |
| 05:04.22 | niaht | scarynetworkguy: yeah, I remember early gopher.. that was pretty exciting.. that and the first days on lexus-nexus |
| 05:04.30 | yarjar | vkd: But it doesn't have all the features of gnome-panel. ;_; |
| 05:04.40 | scarynetworkguy | and it is always fun to watch how motivated people become when you take their Internet connection away. :) |
| 05:04.43 | vkd | yarjar, well, just fyi if you needed something for urgent now |
| 05:04.45 | Phated | BAH, GNOME. |
| 05:04.50 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Don't even think about it. |
| 05:04.55 | scarynetworkguy | niaht: yea that was the coolest thing I had ever seen in my whole life. |
| 05:05.03 | mauro | please someone answer me? |
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| 05:05.12 | yarjar | vkd: Thanks, heh. I just want my damn Gaim windows to flash. :-O |
| 05:05.19 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: that's how we "motivate" folks at work. |
| 05:05.20 | niaht | scarynetworkguy: So cool many of us just had to start a home BBS :) |
| 05:05.26 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Tsk. |
| 05:05.27 | nailbiter | vkd: it was only later, after walnut creek began shipping cdrom collections of these things, that people began thinking about package management and installation scripts. and so slackware was born .. |
| 05:05.36 | dabreegster | mauro: patience. and what was your question? |
| 05:05.38 | scarynetworkguy | niaht: I never did that but I had more than a couple of friends who did |
| 05:05.45 | Phated | *cue Trumpet blare* |
| 05:06.49 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: it is interesting how a programmers abilty to find a bug that I need fixed increases when he has no internet. :) |
| 05:07.03 | niaht | scarynetworkguy: it was fun.. getting on all the 'networks'.. keeping complicated frontdoor configs.. dialing BBSs in other states using cracked PBX systems.. ohhh the sheer feeling of power. |
| 05:07.04 | yarjar | haha |
| 05:07.26 | vkd | scarynetworkguy, what kind of a programmer can work without google/deja/newsgroups/java aip/php.net ? |
| 05:07.29 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Of course. :) I'm sure my grades would go up if I had no Internet too. ;) |
| 05:07.36 | scarynetworkguy | niaht: oh yea |
| 05:07.40 | mauro | My question: I must write exactly the command, options and parameters in /etc/hdparm.conf that I write in bash? |
| 05:07.42 | nailbiter | scarynetworkguy: hey, linus wrote a terminal emulator for his PC because he didn't want to walk across campus in winter to the computer lab. :) and guess what the terminal emulator grew into? |
| 05:07.50 | Phated | BASH! |
| 05:07.50 | niaht | Phated: Yeah, like right now you'd be doing your homework for those summer classes you had to take :) |
| 05:07.57 | yarjar | I would have better vision if I didn't have Internet access. |
| 05:07.57 | g4lt | dabreegster that ought to take ten minutes or so... |
| 05:07.58 | Phated | No, I'm just guessing. |
| 05:08.05 | nailbiter | Phated: haha. well, linux, actually. :) |
| 05:08.14 | dabreegster | g4lt: I know. I'm just curious to see what's still there |
| 05:08.21 | scarynetworkguy | vkd: well it's more how I get them to call me back and start working on it. If we took it away for too long it would not be good |
| 05:08.22 | Phated | niaht: Er, hello, I'm doing well enough not to have to tek summer classes. Also, read up on .sg's schooling system. |
| 05:08.29 | Phated | nailbiter: :) |
| 05:08.34 | niaht | Phated: :P |
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| 05:09.00 | vkd | scarynetworkguy, what does a network guy actually do? except borking routers? |
| 05:09.09 | niaht | Phated: Never been there.. but hope to go everywhere someday. |
| 05:09.14 | Phated | vkd: That's what they do for fun. :) |
| 05:09.21 | croepha|home | does debian have any cool FPS games? |
| 05:09.22 | nailbiter | dabreegster: gopher still exists?? |
| 05:09.27 | Phated | niaht: :) Whatever spins your wheels. |
| 05:09.33 | Phated | nailbiter: Heck yes. |
| 05:09.37 | dabreegster | nailbiter: yes. install gopher package. |
| 05:09.41 | vkd | Phated, that's the only thing I SEEN them do ;) |
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| 05:09.50 | g4lt | dabreegster given taht furry terror is basically maintained by cosmicreay, this is a surprise? |
| 05:09.56 | yarjar | err, it has a debian mirror, rather. |
| 05:09.58 | tory | how do I get a system tray in gnome? when I minimize muine the window vanishes. |
| 05:10.06 | scarynetworkguy | vkd: work on firewalls, in my case run a huge VPN infrastructe and get sucked into way too many things that are really server problems but that nobody else wants to own. |
| 05:10.07 | dabreegster | g4lt: *shrug* |
| 05:10.08 | niaht | Phated: Anything outside california is pretty exciting to me.. I might even raise my voice above a whisper. |
| 05:10.11 | nailbiter | dabreegster: no, i mean the network itself. :) i last used the thing a decade ago .. |
| 05:10.13 | MrCarrotfeet | What's the best way to install X (KDE, Gnome, etc) from a fresh install? |
| 05:10.31 | yarjar | pick out the packages you need from aptitude |
| 05:10.33 | mauro | What do I write in /etc/hdparm.conf? |
| 05:10.33 | nailbiter | MrCarrotfeet: 'apt-get install x-window-system gnome kde' might work. |
| 05:10.35 | yarjar | Least that's what I did >_> |
| 05:10.57 | vkd | scarynetworkguy, but can't you just buy like a Symantec firewall/VPN appliance and that's pretty much solves it? How complex must a vpn/firewall be to need a network guy? Like a telecom thing maybe |
| 05:11.01 | MrCarrotfeet | thanks |
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| 05:11.31 | g4lt | mauro man hdparm.conf |
| 05:11.45 | yarjar | Me, I'd rather install a few bits of GNOME software, rather than all of it, so I just manually pick out the packages I want. |
| 05:11.48 | yarjar | x_x |
| 05:12.34 | niaht | vkd: VPN infrastructure usually involves thousands of client systems, some kind of SLA's and connections to/through/around(grin) many such devices like the one you mentioned.. |
| 05:13.15 | vkd | niaht, ok... I guess... I just thought such big co's used Win2K point and clikc thingy |
| 05:13.17 | dabreegster | I'm just a bit curious... What's the history of the Debian swirly logo? |
| 05:13.18 | scarynetworkguy | vkd: oh we do plenty of telecom work also. And no your Symantec firewall/VPN appliance is to what I do as a model airplane is to 747. Lots more to it than meets the eye. That and I'm leaving out all the boring stuff. Running switches, pulling cables, tracking down rouge servers al that fun stuff. |
| 05:13.23 | tory | how do I get a system tray in gnome? when I minimize muine the window vanishes. |
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| 05:13.41 | vkd | scarynetworkguy, I see |
| 05:13.59 | yarjar | tory, right click on gnome-panel -> add to panel -> utilities -> notification area |
| 05:14.05 | vkd | I upgrades software and configured some ports on our cisco switch, nothing to it :0 |
| 05:14.07 | vkd | :) |
| 05:14.14 | tory | yarjar: thanks |
| 05:14.17 | Phated | vkd: It means they're paid to have fun. ;) |
| 05:14.19 | yarjar | No prob :) |
| 05:14.20 | vkd | a few commands, a few hits with a hammer, and it's just perfect |
| 05:14.26 | Phated | niaht: Oh, god spare us. |
| 05:14.29 | niaht | I feel lucky that I only have to deal with 5 VPN links, and two types of IPSEC software |
| 05:14.38 | MrCarrotfeet | thanks folks |
| 05:14.44 | scarynetworkguy | vkd: yea think over 100 tunnels. With my boxes talking to a whole slew of other boxes. complex stuff |
| 05:14.44 | niaht | Phated: spare yourself |
| 05:14.47 | vkd | I set up OpenBSD for VPN once, wasnt' all that hard :) |
| 05:15.22 | dabreegster | With the green and purple prompt, you know... *grin* |
| 05:15.35 | scarynetworkguy | oh my god I know he did not say that |
| 05:15.37 | Phated | Urgh. |
| 05:15.39 | mauro | I know what hdparm do. What I want to know how I must set /etc/hdparm.conf? |
| 05:15.47 | scarynetworkguy | This this is why I'm homicidal :) |
| 05:15.50 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: You'd be surprised. |
| 05:15.53 | niaht | eek |
| 05:15.59 | dabreegster | Seriously. My console is green and purple on black. :-P |
| 05:16.05 | vkd | scarynetworkguy, why? |
| 05:16.09 | yarjar | o_O |
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| 05:16.43 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: :) |
| 05:17.01 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: You're homicidal, I'm homicaidal, dabreegster's not. Interpretation == ? |
| 05:17.08 | dabreegster | Before I go attempting to write my own sound manager, is there a good console ncurses based tool for managing music? |
| 05:17.25 | Phated | Sid is -mine-! |
| 05:17.30 | scarynetworkguy | vkd: because what you think is what most of my lusers also think. So when shit goes wrong they are always like "Why doesn't it just work why can't you make it easier?" but all in all it's pretty fun stuff |
| 05:17.39 | yarjar | Phated: It's cheating on you! |
| 05:17.41 | yarjar | With me! |
| 05:17.48 | niaht | dabreegster: ls, rm, and mv? Or do you mean creating 'playlists' and such? |
| 05:17.49 | Phated | yarjar: Bah, it always is. I'm cheating on it too. |
| 05:17.55 | vkd | scarynetworkguy, hahaha, I am just messing with you, that's all :) |
| 05:18.00 | dabreegster | Getting stuff to work and messing around with stuff is the best part of Debian |
| 05:18.03 | yarjar | Phated: It gets around. |
| 05:18.06 | yarjar | :D |
| 05:18.08 | vkd | scarynetworkguy, I am sure they wouldn't pay you the big bucks for nothing... although.... |
| 05:18.11 | dabreegster | niaht: not just playlists, like a full manager for music |
| 05:18.12 | vkd | maybe they do |
| 05:18.12 | Phated | yarjar: Yeppers. ;) |
| 05:18.18 | scarynetworkguy | vkd: I know and ranting here is one of the ways I stay sane. :) |
| 05:18.24 | Phated | dabreegster: ls, rm, mv, mkdir. ;) |
| 05:18.25 | niaht | dabreegster: what would you expect a 'manager' to do? |
| 05:18.31 | dabreegster | Never mind... |
| 05:18.32 | Phated | vkd: You're SANE? Really? |
| 05:18.38 | dabreegster | You'll see when I (try) to code one |
| 05:18.46 | Phated | dabreegster: Sure thing. |
| 05:18.46 | scarynetworkguy | vkd: I've been trying to find this mythical guy who gets the "big bucks" no luck yet |
| 05:18.46 | vkd | Phated, why? |
| 05:18.49 | g4lt | niaht play golf? |
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| 05:18.56 | dabreegster | where's the documentation for ncurses? I *have* looked in /usr/share/doc/ncurses you know.. |
| 05:19.16 | vkd | scarynetworkguy, hahaha, all that work, and no big bucks? I thought network guys just took in the loot |
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| 05:19.28 | niaht | dabreegster: mp3blaster? |
| 05:19.38 | dabreegster | niaht: I'll check it out |
| 05:19.46 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: some people oddly enough just have no urge to kill. I think it's a personal flaw. :) |
| 05:19.55 | niaht | g4lt: love it.. keeps my swing healthy |
| 05:20.07 | scarynetworkguy | vkd: I don't think *anybody* gets the big bucks. :) |
| 05:20.14 | yarjar | Anybody else here watch Adult Swim? |
| 05:20.14 | nailbiter | dabreegster: the library functions' manpages and the programmer's guide are in 'libncurses-dev'. |
| 05:20.20 | dabreegster | scarynetworkguy: Grab a zen book and learn to control that little voice that's awlays telling us to go insane. |
| 05:20.25 | dabreegster | nailbiter: ok, thanks |
| 05:20.27 | niaht | |trey|: spelling is overrated |
| 05:20.27 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: No, no, they're the odd ones. I have an urge to kill too. :) |
| 05:20.38 | g4lt | niaht no, you asked what I expected a manager to do.... |
| 05:20.41 | Phated | vkd: My bad, that was directed at scarynetworkguy. |
| 05:20.50 | |trey| | niaht: ha |
| 05:20.54 | niaht | g4lt: lol.. I guess that makes sense.. I happen to be the manager. |
| 05:20.57 | vkd | scarynetworkguy, did you ever see that seinfel episode where Cramer used to carry his money in this metal clip, and he says "Keep big bills outside, Jerry", and Jerry says "Cramer, that's a five" |
| 05:21.02 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: that is what I meant. the ones who don't want to kill are the odd ones :) |
| 05:21.13 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Yep. :) |
| 05:21.29 | scarynetworkguy | dabreegster: and lose my edge? I think not |
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| 05:21.35 | scarynetworkguy | vkd: yea :) |
| 05:21.45 | Ignignot | can someone walk me through using scp to move a file to my smoothwall? I can ssh to it, I just don't know what i"m doing |
| 05:21.48 | |trey| | scarynetworkguy: umm, so I'm perfectly normal to want to kill about 10 people atm? :o |
| 05:21.53 | niaht | time to go lose (see I pay attention) another 20 minutes of my life. |
| 05:21.58 | dabreegster | scarynetworkguy: good point. part of your personality is that loud voice telling you to flame everybody that asks stupid questions. |
| 05:22.02 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: sanity is a relative thing :) |
| 05:22.11 | vkd | Ignignot, scp myfile user@host:/home/dir/ |
| 05:22.15 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: s/relative/extraneous/ |
| 05:22.20 | toolchest | Ignignot: rtfm |
| 05:22.23 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: hehe |
| 05:22.23 | yarjar | Gonna move to my downstairs computer, it's Windows :(... But that room has a TV in it, and I must watch my Family Guy, Futurama, and Sealab |
| 05:22.30 | Ignignot | toolchest: up yours |
| 05:22.31 | nailbiter | Ignignot: also, 'tar -cf - file1 file2 | ssh smoothwallhost tar -xf -' |
| 05:22.31 | scarynetworkguy | |trey|: yes yes it is |
| 05:22.37 | Phated | dabreegster: Oh, scarynetworkguy -is- Zen. He's in AZG, as am I. |
| 05:22.43 | dabreegster | Phated: cool |
| 05:22.50 | Phated | dabreegster: Yep. |
| 05:22.59 | scarynetworkguy | dabreegster: gotta go with what you know |
| 05:23.03 | toolchest | Ignignot: dude, I was just kidding. |
| 05:23.05 | |trey| | scarynetworkguy: yeppeeee, I thought I was crazy 8) |
| 05:23.06 | toolchest | :) |
| 05:23.12 | croepha|home | fork failed: Cannot allocate memory |
| 05:23.20 | |trey| | croepha|home: shitty |
| 05:23.24 | scarynetworkguy | |trey|: nope not at all |
| 05:23.26 | Ignignot | vkd: the system is setup to use port 222 |
| 05:23.32 | Phated | Buy a memory-enabled fork, silly. |
| 05:23.49 | nailbiter | Ignignot: use 'scp -P 2222' or 'ssh -p 2222'. |
| 05:24.03 | |trey| | scarynetworkguy: I think you are messing with me :p |
| 05:24.04 | nailbiter | Ignignot: Or 222. Or whatever your ssh daemon is listening on. :) |
| 05:24.23 | scarynetworkguy | |trey|: not at all :) |
| 05:24.29 | Ignignot | nailbiter: I tried 222 and 2222 but it always says port 22 connection refused |
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| 05:24.47 | g4lt | croepha|home stop one of your unused daemons |
| 05:24.52 | nailbiter | Ignignot: 'scp -P'? that's a capital 'P'. |
| 05:25.25 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Tao. -Tao- of murder. |
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| 05:25.28 | Ignignot | nailbiter: sweeeet |
| 05:25.32 | Ignignot | thanks guys |
| 05:25.34 | vkd | Ignignot, so read scp manpage and force port to be 222 |
| 05:25.36 | vkd | man scp |
| 05:25.45 | |trey| | at least 4 packages for kde 3.3 rc1 are borked :( |
| 05:25.50 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: :) |
| 05:25.52 | croepha|home | g4lt, i closed xmms, that did it |
| 05:25.54 | toolchest | Ignigot: but if you had read the manual, you would have saved us some time. :) |
| 05:25.56 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: :) |
| 05:26.02 | Phated | dabreegster: Serves you right. :) |
| 05:26.11 | |trey| | main ones too, kdebase and both kdelibs packages... fun stuff :/ |
| 05:26.24 | dabreegster | Phated: yep. |
| 05:26.29 | nailbiter | |trey|: i'm not sure if the kde 3.3 packages in sid are from beta2 or rc1, but they work quite well. :) |
| 05:26.42 | dabreegster | One thing about me... I usually agree with others when they find faults with myself. |
| 05:26.45 | nailbiter | |trey|: uh, not sid. :) experimental .. |
| 05:27.09 | cef_work | nailbiter: does kmail still segv if you try and view the source for a message? |
| 05:27.21 | g4lt | nailbiter ...or at least did until the preinstall of kicker got munged :/ |
| 05:27.21 | nailbiter | cef_work: lemme check. :) |
| 05:27.31 | |trey| | nailbiter: hmm, in experimental? worth a shot 8) |
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| 05:27.56 | niaht | dabreegster: apt-cache search mp3 console |
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| 05:28.14 | cef_work | Phated: afternoon! |
| 05:28.22 | dabreegster | niaht: I know... mp3blaster will work |
| 05:28.25 | Phated | cef_work: Hello, cef. :) |
| 05:28.31 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: :) |
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| 05:28.44 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: anybody ever told you about screen? |
| 05:28.51 | niaht | dabreegster: *nods*.. just letting you know how I would have found it |
| 05:28.56 | BlackyVIP | hello all. After rebooting system my oidentd doesn't work anymore. scarynetworkguy can u help me ? |
| 05:29.05 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Er no. |
| 05:29.06 | BlackyVIP | scarynetworkguy btw good morning :P |
| 05:29.17 | BlackyVIP | Phated hello |
| 05:29.20 | scarynetworkguy | BlackyVIP: hey |
| 05:29.27 | Phated | BlackyVIP: Hello. |
| 05:29.48 | niaht | morning != good |
| 05:30.00 | dabreegster | niaht: I know... but sometimes an opinion is better |
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| 05:30.12 | niaht | dabreegster: *nods* |
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| 05:30.20 | BlackyVIP | so anyone familiar with oidetnd ? |
| 05:30.25 | scarynetworkguy | morning is when the daystar comes back. |
| 05:30.28 | BlackyVIP | :P |
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| 05:30.44 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: If you're ineterested in what my desktop -usually- looks like... DCC. |
| 05:30.45 | dabreegster | niaht: Translation: it's easier to type it here than to take the trouble of switching to another vt and using that command :-P |
| 05:30.50 | scarynetworkguy | night is good. |
| 05:30.57 | niaht | dabreegster: lol |
| 05:30.59 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: And the moon flees. Thus, morning != good |
| 05:31.06 | niaht | dabreegster: yup.. lazy bastard |
| 05:31.08 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: send it :) |
| 05:31.12 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: :) |
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| 05:31.23 | dabreegster | niaht: Guilty as charged. |
| 05:31.26 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: but the daystar burnsss us we hatessss it |
| 05:31.44 | dabreegster | niaht: shell scripts, perl, and cron are the lazy people's dream... |
| 05:31.50 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Yessss, yesss, it burnssss ussss, love, it burrnssss... |
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| 05:32.21 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: nasty daystar we hatessss it |
| 05:32.24 | c0ywulf | tcsetattr: Phated g4lt http://greatcn.org/~coywolf/pub/irc-log/zz.txt |
| 05:32.44 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: We hatessss it, yess, yessss, gollum, gollum. |
| 05:32.48 | Phated | c0ywulf: Eh? |
| 05:33.02 | scarynetworkguy | hatesssss it |
| 05:33.12 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: DCC heads-up! |
| 05:33.37 | dabreegster | Wow... the dog utility just saved me from opening up elinks.. Another tool for the lazy people :-P |
| 05:33.51 | Phated | What tool? |
| 05:34.02 | dabreegster | the dog utility |
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| 05:34.09 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: :) |
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| 05:34.12 | dabreegster | just like cat, but can handle URLs and stuff |
| 05:34.13 | Phated | dog, right. |
| 05:34.18 | Phated | Ahhh, coool. |
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| 05:34.34 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Note bottm-right corner. ;) |
| 05:34.38 | g4lt | c0ywulf for god's sake, WHY? |
| 05:34.42 | Phated | |trey|: Not much to it. :) |
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| 05:35.20 | |trey| | grrr, whatever it is, it doesn't wanna install :( |
| 05:35.23 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: I saw it that is a pretty nice desktop. :) |
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| 05:35.45 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Very non-diabetic, very productive. :) |
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| 05:36.02 | Phated | |trey|: FFS, use a konsole to change your password. |
| 05:36.17 | |trey| | someone, anyone... quick... force overwrite via apt would be done... how? |
| 05:36.21 | c0ywulf | g4lt: nothing, i used to for my OWN FAQ, Phated , and fortune |
| 05:36.25 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: yup a person could get some work done with that. :) |
| 05:36.30 | mwilson | |trey|: It wouldn't be. |
| 05:36.31 | |trey| | Phated: blah, its a package, and its needed apparently... |
| 05:36.39 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: In case you ask, the theme is koynacity, for the pretty widgets. |
| 05:36.44 | |trey| | mwilson: damnit :( |
| 05:36.52 | Phated | |trey|: *shrugs* I'm not the one asking you to use KDE... ;) |
| 05:36.54 | |trey| | mwilson: that could be why I don't remember how though 8) |
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| 05:36.58 | mwilson | |trey|: If you actually needed to do it, you would know how to do it. |
| 05:37.02 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Ye, I do get work done with that. |
| 05:37.34 | |trey| | mwilson: says 'error overwriting <some file>, which is also in kcontrol'.... |
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| 05:37.48 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: I did like those very retro |
| 05:37.49 | mwilson | |trey|: Yes, I'm sure it does. |
| 05:37.55 | |trey| | mwilson: I would say I do need to know how :/ |
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| 05:38.00 | niaht | |trey| dpkg --force-help |
| 05:38.06 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Yeah, those were cool. :) |
| 05:38.14 | |trey| | niaht: I know how via dpkg... just not via apt :/ |
| 05:38.17 | |trey| | blah... brb |
| 05:38.19 | hax | after xp trashes your mbr, how do you reinstall it (grub) with knoppix? |
| 05:38.30 | niaht | |trey| darn.. and I was gonna tell you to go blow up your system. |
| 05:38.32 | mwilson | hax: #knoppix |
| 05:38.38 | Phated | hax: Reformat and don't put XP on it. |
| 05:38.45 | dabreegster | hax: also, don't forget to hurt xp |
| 05:38.50 | hax | mwilson: well, alright, but its more of a grub question... |
| 05:39.03 | yarjar | :-O |
| 05:39.06 | Phated | dabreegster: HURT? Not good enough. |
| 05:39.10 | mwilson | hax: When you get to it being a Debian question, you just let us know. |
| 05:39.16 | hax | mwilson: will do |
| 05:39.17 | hax | heh |
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| 05:39.42 | Xenguy | OT: has anyone else received those spammy-type emails from '@sharingexperiences.org' saying something like 'someone is searching for info about you' ? |
| 05:39.46 | scarynetworkguy | oh yea screen |
| 05:39.46 | dabreegster | Phated: hey, I'm a peaceful person, remember? well, usually... :-P |
| 05:39.58 | Phated | dabreegster: Yeah, RIGHT! |
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| 05:40.26 | dabreegster | Phated: Do i need to even SAY that Windows is one of the only things that will cause me to enter Anger Mode? |
| 05:40.28 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: I'm listening... |
| 05:40.50 | niaht | ohh gad.. why must they run win95, 98, ME, 2k AND XP.. |
| 05:40.52 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: just a second I'm finding the docs easier that way. :) |
| 05:40.58 | |trey| | damnit... via dpkg, has dep issues |
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| 05:41.16 | niaht | |trey|: of course. |
| 05:41.16 | |trey| | There really is no way to force overwrite via apt? |
| 05:41.33 | niaht | |trey|: really |
| 05:41.37 | Phated | dabreegster: My default mode is Anger Mode. Widnows causes me to enter Mad-And-Ready-To-Severely-Mutilate-Anything-That-Gets-In-My-Way-With-A-Blunt-Steak-Knife-And-Laugh-While-Doing-It Mode. |
| 05:41.55 | dabreegster | Phated: *blinks at terminal* |
| 05:42.00 | niaht | dabreegster: all ideas come from somewhere |
| 05:42.07 | g4lt | Xenguy yes, it's spam |
| 05:42.11 | dabreegster | Phated: next time, leave a space or two:-P |
| 05:42.17 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: ok I can't find any good docs anyway apt-get install screen |
| 05:42.20 | Phated | dabreegster: No way. |
| 05:42.26 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Yes, sir. |
| 05:42.44 | dabreegster | Ah sweet. Fortune databases in Gopherspace... :-P |
| 05:42.49 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Done. |
| 05:43.05 | Guerin | !phates is <reply> <Phated> My default mode is Anger Mode. Windows causes me to enter Mad-And-Ready-To-Severely-Mutilate-Anything-That-Gets-In-My-Way-With-A-Blunt-Steak-Knife-And-Laugh-While-Doing-It Mode. |
| 05:43.05 | dpkg | Guerin: okay |
| 05:43.07 | Xenguy | g4lt: I looked the web site and they appear to want to corner the market on rumour-mongering ;-) |
| 05:43.13 | Guerin | fuck |
| 05:43.19 | Guerin | !forget phates |
| 05:43.19 | dpkg | Guerin: i forgot phates |
| 05:43.25 | Guerin | !phated is <reply> <Phated> My default mode is Anger Mode. Windows causes me to enter Mad-And-Ready-To-Severely-Mutilate-Anything-That-Gets-In-My-Way-With-A-Blunt-Steak-Knife-And-Laugh-While-Doing-It Mode. |
| 05:43.25 | dpkg | okay, Guerin |
| 05:43.25 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: then from any terminal and/or console you run screen and hit enter to get past the first bit. |
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| 05:43.36 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: OK, xterm work? |
| 05:43.40 | Phated | Guerin: :) |
| 05:43.44 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: yup |
| 05:43.45 | g4lt | Xenguy I hope you didn't follow the link in the spam, or you'll just have given them a "confirmed email address"..... |
| 05:44.16 | dabreegster | Oh wow, I found loads of fortunes in gopherspace that should be added to the fortunes package :-P |
| 05:44.18 | Xenguy | g4lt: true - it doesn't matter as the addy is 'disposable' already |
| 05:44.18 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: OK. |
| 05:44.25 | niaht | screen rocks |
| 05:44.39 | zeeble | niaht: heh, yeah |
| 05:44.39 | |trey| | niaht: indeed |
| 05:44.44 | Guerin | screen annoys me and hurts my brain |
| 05:44.57 | Phated | dabreegster: They might be. Apt-cache search fortune |
| 05:45.00 | |trey| | Guerin: uhhh, ok |
| 05:45.03 | zeeble | yeah, you have to keep track of 3what's where |
| 05:45.08 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Done. |
| 05:45.15 | |trey| | Guerin: I don't see how... its pretty straight forward :/ |
| 05:45.31 | Phated | !comfort Guerin |
| 05:45.31 | dabreegster | Phated: they arent. |
| 05:45.31 | dpkg | There, there, Guerin. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 05:45.33 | niaht | Guerin: don't like ctrl+ commands? |
| 05:45.40 | Phated | dabreegster: *shrugs* |
| 05:45.52 | |trey| | most confusing thing is figuring out C-a means ctrl+a :/ |
| 05:46.01 | Guerin | |trey|: yeah, simple stuff is simple. UNsimple stuff is really unsimple. And it fucks up the display of one particular app I want to run in it. |
| 05:46.04 | Phated | |trey|: Yeah, and not B. ;) |
| 05:46.06 | BlackyVIP | phaethon |
| 05:46.09 | BlackyVIP | Phated |
| 05:46.13 | Phated | BlackyVIP: Yo? |
| 05:46.14 | BlackyVIP | i have a question for u |
| 05:46.15 | BlackyVIP | :P |
| 05:46.17 | Guerin | niaht: no, the ctrl commands are fine, I'm an emacser |
| 05:46.25 | Guerin | !u |
| 05:46.25 | dpkg | Dammit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1. |
| 05:46.29 | niaht | Guerin: *nods* |
| 05:46.30 | Phated | Thank you, Guerin. |
| 05:46.38 | |trey| | Guerin: uhh, well, sucks for you :/ |
| 05:46.46 | BlackyVIP | why doesn't my oidentd work if i run firewall... cos i tried without firewall and works |
| 05:46.47 | Phated | BlackyVIP: Yo, what? And why the :P? |
| 05:46.50 | BlackyVIP | :P |
| 05:46.54 | Guerin | |trey|: doesn't it just. |
| 05:46.59 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: so then you run whatever you want to run in that terminal and say you want to get out of X. You just close it drop out to the console from there run screen -r and it reataches you to your app. Basically it keeps it running in the background no matter where you go. I'll find some docs that will make it clearer |
| 05:47.04 | Phated | BlackyVIP: I dunno, I don't run that, or a firewall. |
| 05:47.13 | BlackyVIP | Phated oki doki :P |
| 05:47.13 | niaht | BlackyVIP: did you set up the firewall to allow the inbound connection? |
| 05:47.16 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Oo. Any X App even? |
| 05:47.41 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: no terminal only http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 |
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| 05:48.05 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Bah. I was switching to X. :) |
| 05:48.16 | niaht | ctrl+D = detach |
| 05:48.17 | g4lt | BlackyVIP did you open 113? |
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| 05:48.34 | niaht | BlackyVIP: are you askng me to attack your firewall? |
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| 05:48.49 | dabreegster | anybody happen to know where the gopher app stashes the downloads? manpage and doc arent any help and its not the home directory. I've searched too and cant find it |
| 05:48.58 | BlackyVIP | niaht no no |
| 05:49.03 | BlackyVIP | just to check |
| 05:49.07 | niaht | BlackyVIP: :) just checking |
| 05:49.09 | BlackyVIP | g4lt no i didn't :P |
| 05:49.19 | BlackyVIP | so i need to open 113 ? |
| 05:49.19 | BlackyVIP | :P |
| 05:49.23 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: yea so in cosole if you had run screen then you would have started x and from there ran a xterm did a screen -r and it would have reconnected you to your irrsi session. Read the doc sometime it will explain it better than I am |
| 05:49.35 | g4lt | BlackyVIP that's why your firewall is blocking ident |
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| 05:49.35 | niaht | BlackyVIP: Yes, you must open port 113 inbound from everywhere. |
| 05:49.48 | dabreegster | and er, is it just me, or is the pine mailreader not in the package list? |
| 05:49.52 | BlackyVIP | i see |
| 05:49.54 | BlackyVIP | ok tnx |
| 05:49.55 | BlackyVIP | :P |
| 05:50.03 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Hm, processing... I kidn of get it, thanks. :) |
| 05:50.09 | scarynetworkguy | dabreegster: ir is not free and thus not there unless you have non-free |
| 05:50.10 | Xenguy | dabreegster: I believe pine is non-free |
| 05:50.13 | niaht | ctrl-? = help (in screen) |
| 05:50.17 | dabreegster | ok |
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| 05:50.18 | g4lt | what part of "/etc/services is a must-read for irewall administration" is so hard to get? |
| 05:50.23 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: Yea I'm doing a really bad job of explaining it. :( |
| 05:50.29 | Phated | dabreegster: FFS, use mutt. |
| 05:50.36 | dabreegster | ok |
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| 05:50.48 | g4lt | !tell dabreegster about pine |
| 05:50.50 | niaht | dabreegster: pine has some licensing issues. |
| 05:50.53 | dabreegster | ok |
| 05:50.58 | niaht | !tell niaht about pine |
| 05:51.19 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: No, I think I understand what you're saying. I'd start an irssi session in screen, and then switch to X, and then open up xterm and then reattach, thus getting am irssi in xterm, right? |
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| 05:52.30 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: yea perfect. Or for example I'll start a compile via ssh at work in screen shot down the work machine and when I get back here I can reattach to it. |
| 05:52.51 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Ah, I see. |
| 05:53.18 | Phated | Though, as you can tell, in X, I prefer Xchat. :) |
| 05:53.46 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: in that case not so useful. :) |
| 05:53.52 | dabreegster | Phated: dont start a my-IRC-is-better-than-yours now;) |
| 05:54.00 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Truly |
| 05:54.01 | niaht | Phated: pretty much. Start screen (wherever). Start app inside screen. ctrl-D to detach. logout or whatever. Get an xterm, console, whatever.. type screen -r. You will get your detached screen running your app back.. but note that if you are on someone elses server, they sometimes dislike such things. |
| 05:54.02 | Guerin | Phated: gah. What does xchat offer that irssi doesn't? |
| 05:54.09 | Phated | dabreegster: NO, no, I like everything. |
| 05:54.12 | yarjar | <3 XChat. |
| 05:54.18 | dabreegster | Guerin: yeah, irssi RULES |
| 05:54.30 | Phated | Guerin: irssi in X doesn't allow Alt+n to switch windows. :) |
| 05:54.41 | Phated | xterm, that is. |
| 05:54.42 | timzter | If a procmail has a | someprog (pipe symbol followed by some progra), then there must be an 'f' flag after the :0 ? |
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| 05:54.56 | Guerin | Phated: it does if you configure xterm right |
| 05:54.58 | BlackyVIP | g4lt |
| 05:55.00 | BlackyVIP | not idented |
| 05:55.01 | Xenguy | niaht: hrm - why would someone else running a server dislike screen sessions? |
| 05:55.02 | g4lt | Phated that's because X takes over alt=n |
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| 05:55.02 | BlackyVIP | as u can see |
| 05:55.04 | BlackyVIP | hm |
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| 05:55.13 | Guerin | Phated: that issue is specifically covered on the irssi website faq |
| 05:55.15 | Phated | Er, why, for some odd reason, does a .tar.gz have a .tar.gzsca extension? |
| 05:55.25 | Phated | Guerin: xchat offers it, good enough for me. :) |
| 05:55.28 | g4lt | BlackyVIP WTF are you on about? |
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| 05:55.40 | NeoSadist | is there a way to tell debian (ftp) network install of sarge (testing) to use an SMP kernel? |
| 05:55.42 | Phated | g4lt: Yeah, I figured. :) |
| 05:55.51 | niaht | Xenguy: Takes up process time, memory, etc.. for instance an ISP is working on the idea that they can support x number of people on a shell server, granted that only y number of people are utilizing resources at any one time. |
| 05:56.00 | Guerin | NeoSadist: apt-cache search kernel0image |grep smp |
| 05:56.08 | Xenguy | niaht: ahhh, ic |
| 05:56.14 | Guerin | NeoSadist: then install one of those kernels, reboot into it, you're done, son. |
| 05:56.31 | Guerin | s/kernel0image/kernel-image/ |
| 05:56.38 | NeoSadist | Guerin: it automatically updates lilo/grub, etc? so i should see an additional boot option? |
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| 05:56.49 | Guerin | NeoSadist: which do you use? |
| 05:57.00 | NeoSadist | whatever is default with debian. |
| 05:57.18 | Guerin | NeoSadist: old default=lilo, new default=grub |
| 05:57.23 | Phated | dataefx: Errr, WHAT impending debate? |
| 05:57.27 | Phated | Because I want in. |
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| 05:57.45 | Guerin | NeoSadist: I believe grub updates itself, lilo doesn't. You should find out for sure. |
| 05:57.49 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: is your .tar.gzsca by chance a theme? |
| 05:57.51 | NeoSadist | Guerin: whatever it installs now, which is grub. i'm asking if i'll see an additional entry, it reconfigures grub, etc. i can do it myself, but still ... |
| 05:57.58 | joh | NeoSadist: the debian packages usually just make two boot options (at least with lilo): one for the current (old) kernel named "Linux old" and one for the new kernel named "Linux" |
| 05:58.04 | dataefx | Phated: the one concerning irc clients |
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| 05:58.12 | NeoSadist | joh: ok. thanks |
| 05:58.18 | joh | norris: np |
| 05:58.18 | timzter | nailbiter: You said I could substitute your "junkfolder"with the formail command, but must I add an 'f' to the flag after :0 ? |
| 05:58.23 | joh | err, NeoSadist: np |
| 05:58.24 | Guerin | joh: that's not true of grub |
| 05:58.31 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Er, yeah. |
| 05:58.34 | Guerin | grub just lists them all |
| 05:58.39 | joh | Guerin: ok |
| 05:58.41 | Phated | dataefx: Bah, we resolved that peacefully. :) |
| 05:58.52 | joh | NeoSadist: listen to Guerin ;) |
| 05:59.03 | Phated | Always listen to Guerin. |
| 05:59.04 | timzter | nailbiter: that is: :0:\n* ^X-Spam-Status: Yes\n| formail -i "Subject: SPAM --$SUBJECT" ? |
| 05:59.10 | dataefx | Phated: looks like it |
| 05:59.25 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: most likely named that way to take advantage of some automation tool. Just a guess here of course :) |
| 05:59.38 | Phated | dataefx: :) |
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| 05:59.57 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Meh. I'll try to extract it the usual way anyway. :) |
| 06:00.19 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: should work under *nix filenames don't really matter |
| 06:01.07 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Guess so. The dregs of Windows remains. *shudder* |
| 06:01.25 | Hamled|Erp| | Windows r teh best, what do you mean?! |
| 06:01.44 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: :) You'll recover some day *grins* |
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| 06:02.28 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: I will. *grin* |
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| 06:04.17 | simonrvn | nailbiter: i figured out what i wanted - thanks for your input w.r.t. iptables |
| 06:04.20 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: for sure :) |
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| 06:05.21 | NeoSadist | ok, now i'm happy with debian (very happy in fact: it works as documented, is stable, etc. cannot find anything wrong with it.) therefore, tonight, i migrate my dual PIII box to debian from mandrake 10 (knowing it works fine on the pIII right next to it on the same desk lol, openssh is a blast for backing things up) |
| 06:05.42 | dabreegster | why is everybody grinning so much? |
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| 06:06.01 | NE054D15T | :D |
| 06:06.01 | simonrvn | meh. i hate it when i expect something to get rotated daily, is set up to get rotated weekly. i confuzzle myself sometimes... |
| 06:06.30 | asad | which sarge-ia64 cd is required for installing base with gnome desktop |
| 06:06.33 | Phated | dabreegster: Don't grin if you don't know why, kidster. :) |
| 06:07.06 | dabreegster | Phated: I grinned cuz I have Debian on my PC and life is good :-P |
| 06:07.42 | Phated | dabreegster: No count. You need to know what -we-were grining about. |
| 06:07.46 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: :) |
| 06:07.50 | Phated | dabreegster: Gopher? |
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| 06:08.11 | USER-_ | First I were getting "No screens found" error, then I changed som thing in xserver, no I got a new error, not "No screens Found". I have upload it to xfree86.frac.dk, where you can see it! It is something about my mouse, there is stopping it; I have a m$ intelligent mouse. I changed to kernel 2.6.7 from 2.2.20, cause I thought that was a good idea, but now I have F****** my internet and modconf, so now I cant use my apt a |
| 06:08.12 | dabreegster | Phated: yep |
| 06:08.16 | USER-_ | modconf, but when I start it, I get a failure, (I will try to upload it to xfree86.frac.dk), så starts the GUI, but I can not add drivers, cause I get a failure, ( i will also upload that!). I appologize my english! |
| 06:08.17 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: :) |
| 06:08.18 | Phated | dabreegster: Coolness. |
| 06:08.19 | yarjar | I'll grin when I get my new laptop and put Debian on it. |
| 06:08.37 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: :) |
| 06:08.49 | Phated | yarjar: Now -there's- a good reason to girn. |
| 06:08.50 | Phated | grin* |
| 06:09.03 | niaht | USER-_: From 2.6 to 2.2? eek |
| 06:09.04 | yarjar | Phated: Quite. :) |
| 06:09.07 | dabreegster | yarjar: yep. lucky you. |
| 06:09.12 | USER-_ | no, 2.2.20 to 2.6.7 |
| 06:09.27 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: *grins* |
| 06:09.27 | yarjar | Anybody know of the status of the Debian AMD64 port? |
| 06:09.35 | niaht | USER-_: ahhh.. sorry.. I guess it really is time for sleep. |
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| 06:09.41 | USER-_ | hehe |
| 06:09.50 | Phated | yarjar: Nonexistent. |
| 06:09.52 | c0ywulf | what this doing? $(KBUILD_VERBOSE:1=) in makefile |
| 06:09.54 | scarynetworkguy | Stewie 0w3ns |
| 06:10.06 | g4lt | yarjar it got flamed to death |
| 06:10.10 | yarjar | ouch. |
| 06:10.16 | USER-_ | niaht: but do you have a idea, to solv my problem? |
| 06:10.22 | yarjar | And yes, Stewie does indeed own. |
| 06:10.25 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Stewie. That's either a kind of meaty dish, or a kid watching Blue's Clues. |
| 06:10.44 | k-man | anyone know of a cheap router that can do QOS? |
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| 06:10.52 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: Family Guy. He's a baby that wants to take over the world |
| 06:11.10 | yarjar | scarynetworkguy: Do you also watch Futurama and Sealab? :-P |
| 06:11.12 | TTT | k-man: erm? old P1-100 Mhz w/ lots of 100 mbit nics and leaf.sf.net? |
| 06:11.14 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Eh, OK. |
| 06:11.30 | Phated | Someone SHOOT ME! I just saw XP colours! |
| 06:11.36 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: you gotta see it to really understand |
| 06:11.37 | k-man | ttt, i'm looking for a slightly more out of the box solution |
| 06:11.42 | deadcat | is dmcrypt taking over or has taken over cryptoloop? |
| 06:11.42 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: I guess. |
| 06:11.48 | yarjar | Phated: Will a stabbing do? |
| 06:11.57 | Phated | yarjar: NO! |
| 06:12.11 | yarjar | Phated: It usually does the trick on everybody else... |
| 06:12.13 | yarjar | >_> |
| 06:12.21 | deadcat | scarynetworkguy: i swear man. one of these day you gonna go postal. (= |
| 06:12.33 | scarynetworkguy | deadcat: more than likely |
| 06:12.47 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: so what are you doing that you say the colors of evil? |
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| 06:12.51 | yarjar | scarynetworkguy: Do you watch Futurama and Sealab? |
| 06:12.53 | g4lt | deadcat uh, what do you mena "one of these days". he's already postal.... |
| 06:13.00 | USER-_ | niaht: ?? |
| 06:13.03 | deadcat | (= |
| 06:13.08 | scarynetworkguy | yarjar: if they happen to be on |
| 06:13.18 | yarjar | ah, ok |
| 06:13.19 | locsmif | does anybody know if and how you can set a pci device to not be busmaster with setpci? |
| 06:13.20 | Phated | TTT: Smart lad. |
| 06:13.23 | simonrvn | k-man: yeh, an older x86 box with a proper kernel config ;) |
| 06:13.36 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Scrolling through the XFCE4 themes. |
| 06:13.39 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: Good show very very good. :) |
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| 06:13.42 | jcole | had to share this... how is a one legged women like a meal at kfc? |
| 06:13.46 | jcole | because you get 2 breasts and a leg |
| 06:13.50 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: yea you gotta be careful with some of those. |
| 06:14.02 | TTT | Phated: www.nuklearpower.com, if you have played at least one console RPG, check it out when you have time :) |
| 06:14.06 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Yeah... XP COLOUR! *shudder |
| 06:14.07 | k-man | hmmm |
| 06:14.13 | Phated | TTT: MUDs count? |
| 06:14.20 | k-man | simonrvn, why can't i just buy something like that from a shop? *sigh* |
| 06:14.24 | niaht | USER-_: Unfortunately I'm not the one to help you with that issue. |
| 06:14.28 | dabreegster | "policy policing policy with a policy for changing the police policing policy" |
| 06:14.29 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: those and the Mac themes :) |
| 06:14.31 | NE054D15T | dang debian is SO sexy lol -- everything works properly |
| 06:14.31 | TTT | Phated: more like final fantasy 1-3, but you'll get the idea i think |
| 06:14.35 | niaht | !karma |
| 06:14.35 | dpkg | niaht has neutral karma |
| 06:14.42 | NE054D15T | must be the distro of choice for perfectionists |
| 06:14.44 | yarjar | NE0: damned straight |
| 06:14.46 | scarynetworkguy | TTT: yup |
| 06:14.57 | niaht | dammit.. I was hoping I was 'Ev1l' |
| 06:14.58 | USER-_ | niaht: sad... I have lived in one week with it, Im beginning to get tired of textmode! |
| 06:15.02 | simonrvn | k-man: heh |
| 06:15.11 | yarjar | be right back, must make more kool aid. :-O |
| 06:15.23 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Nah, no Mac themes, which are better than XP anyway. |
| 06:15.26 | dabreegster | NE054D15T: package systen leaves rpm in the mud |
| 06:15.27 | locsmif | How can you set a pci device to not be busmaster with setpci? Anybody familiar with this tool and the pci standard? :P |
| 06:15.32 | Phated | TTT: Cool. |
| 06:15.40 | dabreegster | USER-_: textmode RULES |
| 06:15.49 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: :) |
| 06:15.51 | simonrvn | aaah, got a reply from the ISP re my /29 |
| 06:15.52 | dataefx | did somebody say they are tired of the cli? |
| 06:15.55 | Phated | grins* |
| 06:16.07 | USER-_ | scarY: yearh, if you not a 3d animator... |
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| 06:16.15 | USER-_ | or gui programmer |
| 06:16.23 | locsmif | the cli is never tiring. (m$ escapism) |
| 06:16.28 | TTT | dataefx: i am tired of pure CLI. I can't live without my Midnight Commander |
| 06:16.29 | Phated | RIGHTO! |
| 06:16.41 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: not as bad on some of the other WMs every other one is a Mac clone. |
| 06:16.48 | dabreegster | Phated: become a regex user and use /ir/ri/ like everybody else :-P |
| 06:16.49 | Phated | TTT: I once entered MC once when I was trying to mv... Scary. |
| 06:16.54 | niaht | USER-_: add another mouse for /dev/misc/psaux |
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| 06:17.05 | Phated | dabreegster: You mean s/ir/ri/ |
| 06:17.11 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Eeeew. |
| 06:17.19 | guk | no ... X and cli works the best as friends ... open some xterms :D |
| 06:17.20 | dataefx | TTT; i'll give you that -- mc is effective |
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| 06:17.33 | dabreegster | Phated: yeah, oops. :-P |
| 06:17.36 | simonrvn | mc is teh r0x0r |
| 06:17.36 | Phated | TTT: mc scared the hell out of me once. :) |
| 06:17.40 | Phated | dabreegster: :) |
| 06:17.46 | NE054D15T | actually, in general, i think it's the high level of perfection: i've yet to have anything work improperly, crash, etc. and i've been apt-getting all day. mandrake 10 got close to this, but i always wanted to be a part of debian due to its stability and perfectionist policies. |
| 06:17.52 | USER-_ | niaht: What do you mean? Shall I just add another mouse with dpkg-reconfigure? |
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| 06:17.58 | TTT | Phated: study performed by biased geeks shows that two panel interface is most efficient for managing files and doing other stuff :) |
| 06:18.08 | locsmif | so, come'on, where are the tweakers, the hardware wizards :P |
| 06:18.10 | Phated | NE054D15T: Yeah, I got into Debian for apt-get, really. ;) |
| 06:18.11 | simonrvn | NE054D15T: "information wants to be free!" :) |
| 06:18.15 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: yea pretty icky. |
| 06:18.17 | Phated | TTT: Right. |
| 06:18.20 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Truly. |
| 06:18.24 | niaht | USER-_: or is it /dev/psaux - Check for /dev/psaux or /dev/misc/psaux and then add a new mouse entry into your XConfig just like the one for /dev/input/mice except for psaux |
| 06:18.33 | Phated | dataefx: Having the shit scared out of them, that's what. |
| 06:18.33 | jcole | NE054D15T: sure, try sid and you'll learn it's more intuitive than an atm machine |
| 06:18.42 | NE054D15T | well, most information. i'm USAF active duty, i know some info needs to remain a secret... |
| 06:18.43 | USER-_ | niaht: I can add another mouse for /dev/psaux |
| 06:18.49 | USER-_ | niaht: thanks; I will try! |
| 06:18.50 | niaht | USER-_: Try it. |
| 06:18.56 | NE054D15T | i'm on testing right now ... |
| 06:18.57 | niaht | USER-_: Enjoy |
| 06:18.58 | dataefx | Phated: roflol |
| 06:19.03 | USER-_ | niaht: THANKS! |
| 06:19.16 | scarynetworkguy | !boo |
| 06:19.29 | Phated | dataefx: :) |
| 06:19.34 | NE054D15T | can't wait until sarge is considered stable |
| 06:19.35 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: :) |
| 06:19.41 | Phated | !yell |
| 06:19.42 | NE054D15T | (even though it already is imo ... ) |
| 06:19.50 | Phated | Yell, damnit, dpkg! |
| 06:19.52 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: *grins* |
| 06:20.02 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: *chuckle* |
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| 06:20.30 | deadcat | NE054D15T: why cant you waite? so you can upgrade to the enxt testing? (= |
| 06:20.30 | dabreegster | NE054D15T: why? I'll just stick with testing :-P |
| 06:20.53 | NE054D15T | i'm using testing, and when it goes stable, i'll use stable |
| 06:20.59 | dabreegster | NE054D15T: besides, testing is very stable |
| 06:21.05 | NE054D15T | i needed spamassassin and kde 3.2.x |
| 06:21.06 | Phated | TTT: nuklearpower is cool! :) |
| 06:21.08 | deadcat | sid is stable. |
| 06:21.09 | NE054D15T | that's basically all |
| 06:21.39 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: *laugh* |
| 06:21.40 | Guerin | bullshit, all of it |
| 06:21.44 | TTT | Phated: very cool. Wait until you read about bow-chucks :) |
| 06:21.45 | Guerin | woody is stable |
| 06:21.47 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: :) |
| 06:21.55 | Guerin | sarge and sid both change on at least a weekly basis |
| 06:21.57 | NE054D15T | woody is also severely outdated |
| 06:21.58 | jcole | NE054D15T: but really though, debian is so modularized it can run an atm machine, i would say thats why it runs on so many more archs |
| 06:21.58 | Phated | TTT: I'm going through the archives now. :) |
| 06:22.06 | TTT | Phated: start with day 1 |
| 06:22.07 | deadcat | Guerin: no. sid is stable as in "stable enough for me" |
| 06:22.10 | NE054D15T | jcole: true ... |
| 06:22.12 | Phated | AFAICT, sid has updates almost everyday. |
| 06:22.13 | Guerin | NE054D15T: not for 90% of server operations |
| 06:22.14 | Phated | TTT: Yes. |
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| 06:22.26 | niaht | NE054D15T: nothing is secret, carrying only the illusion of such. :) |
| 06:22.37 | g4lt | given that most ATM machines run a version of win95 now.... |
| 06:22.43 | Guerin | deadcat: so say that, then. Don't call it stable in the REAL sense of the word, which means "not prone to change" |
| 06:23.01 | Phated | g4lt: I've actually seen a BSOD on an ATM... Funny. |
| 06:23.09 | g4lt | Guerin maybe deadcat doesn't update regularly ;P |
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| 06:23.21 | jcole | g4lt: nah, they've all been upgraded to ME |
| 06:23.23 | TTT | Phated: i'd like to see doom II on an ATM :) |
| 06:23.33 | Phated | TTT: BSOD was the best. :) |
| 06:23.36 | Hamled|Erp| | I'd like to see Doom 3 on an ATM |
| 06:23.40 | g4lt | jcole uhm, that's a version of win95.... |
| 06:23.47 | Phated | TTT: Also, you can change your nick to ROTK anytime now. |
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| 06:23.58 | Guerin | ha |
| 06:24.10 | Hamled|Erp| | g4lt, but it's a betttttar version! |
| 06:24.22 | TTT | Phated: my nick is not from tolkien. I had it long time before the craze with LOTR began |
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| 06:24.29 | Phated | TTT: Heh. :) |
| 06:24.31 | jetscreamer | yes it is |
| 06:24.41 | Phated | Eeeew. |
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| 06:24.47 | Guerin | TTT: really? You must be in your 70s, then. |
| 06:24.47 | NE054D15T | niaht: trust me, there are secret things. |
| 06:25.05 | scarynetworkguy | Guerin: nice one. :) |
| 06:25.08 | jetscreamer | Guerin, or at least 20-30 |
| 06:25.13 | NE054D15T | i work on the f-117a stealth fighter, trust me: there are things that are secret lol |
| 06:25.15 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: another bad theme? |
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| 06:25.34 | jcole | i've seen os2 on many atm machines, whatever happened with os2 anyway |
| 06:25.35 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: No, no, Windows 2k3 serer and Windows based thin clients. |
| 06:25.36 | Guerin | jetscreamer: nope. LOTR was released in 1954, and it has been a craze pretty much ever since. |
| 06:25.36 | joshk | NE054D15T: hmm.. well, not anymore |
| 06:25.45 | TTT | Guerin: well, I mean CRAZE. I've read the books and enjoyed them ~10 years ago, but noone knew about LOTR at least here in Lithuania until the movies |
| 06:25.50 | Phated | Guerin: Excellent use of trivia there. :)P |
| 06:25.54 | Hamled|Erp| | Guerin, although it's had it's up and downs... |
| 06:25.59 | jetscreamer | that's what i meant |
| 06:26.18 | jetscreamer | having read the books 30+ yrs ago |
| 06:26.18 | Hamled|Erp| | ohhhh, in lithuania, sure hide behind that excuse |
| 06:26.19 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: yea the horror never really ends. |
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| 06:26.26 | g4lt | Guerin uhm, '54 is a bit late.... |
| 06:26.27 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Yeah... :| |
| 06:26.30 | niaht | NE054D15T: :) |
| 06:26.32 | Guerin | TTT: well, you're not in Lithuania when you're in #debian :) |
| 06:26.41 | Caelum | jcole: there are still people using it...mostly porting linux stuff via emx |
| 06:26.45 | joshk | Guerin: where _are_ you, then? |
| 06:26.45 | g4lt | Guerin it was WRITTEN in '39 |
| 06:26.51 | Guerin | g4lt: what for? |
| 06:26.58 | Guerin | g4lt: sure, but not released. |
| 06:26.58 | Phated | When I'm on #debian, I usually consider myself a world citizen. :). |
| 06:27.01 | Hamled|Erp| | You're in albania when you're in #debian |
| 06:27.02 | Caelum | jcole: and it runs wine |
| 06:27.10 | jetscreamer | lotrruns wine? |
| 06:27.10 | scarynetworkguy | wise very wise |
| 06:27.11 | niaht | NE054D15T: trust is for those who lack experience. |
| 06:27.19 | Guerin | joshk: my hostname isn't masked, surely you can figger it out for yourself. |
| 06:27.25 | dataefx | but then again, my owners other business runs on linux -- and that is all that I use at home/work (laptop) |
| 06:27.41 | joshk | Guerin: too lazy |
| 06:27.45 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: don't be so excited :) |
| 06:27.47 | JoePenguin | parades are boring |
| 06:27.50 | Guerin | joshk: fair enough, so am I most of the time. |
| 06:27.52 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: *grin* |
| 06:27.53 | jcole | Caelum: isn't os2 a forked win 3.1 codebase? |
| 06:27.57 | NE054D15T | niaht: whatever, bro, are you drunk? |
| 06:28.07 | locsmif | Phated, haha a parade : have you played Postal 2 ? ;) |
| 06:28.13 | Phated | joshk: When on IRC, you have no citizenship, excpet as a Linux User. ;) |
| 06:28.14 | JoePenguin | jco: i heard that OS/2 is half an OS |
| 06:28.18 | JoePenguin | jcole i mean |
| 06:28.18 | Phated | locsmif: Er, no. |
| 06:28.23 | niaht | NE054D15T: No. I do not drink. |
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| 06:28.28 | jetscreamer | lies |
| 06:28.35 | jetscreamer | what about that water? |
| 06:28.46 | Phated | I don't drink either. |
| 06:28.49 | g4lt | on IRC everybody is a fat 35-year old ugly man |
| 06:28.52 | jetscreamer | more lies |
| 06:29.00 | jetscreamer | hey i'm older than 35 dammit |
| 06:29.11 | joshk | Phated: how patriotic |
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| 06:29.12 | Phated | g4lt: To me, more like a 50-year-old unisexual beast. |
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| 06:29.21 | hachi | are you calling me fat? |
| 06:29.23 | locsmif | I'm 135, but I use oil of ulay ;) |
| 06:29.25 | Phated | joshk: No, no, just Linuxish. :) |
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| 06:29.32 | Caelum | jcole: it was a joint effort between MS and IBM to create a real OS, MS later left IBM behind and continued on their own, creating NT |
| 06:29.35 | g4lt | Phated details, details ;P |
| 06:29.37 | JoePenguin | i'm a penguin |
| 06:29.48 | Phated | I'm an adjective. |
| 06:29.48 | TTT | g4lt: That's wrong. on IRC, men are ugly, women are men, and small girls are FBI agents |
| 06:30.00 | Guerin | TTT: haha |
| 06:30.02 | dataefx | g4lt: speak for your self -- i'm in my ah -- ah -- well i'm not 35 |
| 06:30.05 | Phated | TTT: How'd you know I was a 16 year old girl? ;) |
| 06:30.06 | dabreegster | g4lt: not true. ;) |
| 06:30.11 | hume | hi, i need to take screenshots and then scale down to include in a document - how can I make this without the screenshots becoming as blurred as when scaling down with gimp? |
| 06:30.12 | locsmif | lol, somebody submit to bash.org |
| 06:30.12 | jcole | Caelum: ah, that makes sense, i played with os2 many years back and it was decent at the time, better than win 3.1, *much* faster and *more* stable |
| 06:30.22 | Caelum | jcole: around OS/2 2.1, IBM was also working on their own...but it was a bit too far ahead of its time, a bit too resource hungry, and a bit too tied to the x86 (lots of assembly code) |
| 06:30.30 | Phated | locsmif: Submit what? |
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| 06:30.43 | scarynetworkguy | I'll be back in a minute there are some nice men with guns at the door.... |
| 06:30.48 | TTT | locsmif: I think they already have a similar quote |
| 06:30.56 | Caelum | jcole: also, once win32 apps became the norm, people just used win95 or nt, since most apps were for windows |
| 06:30.59 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: NO, DON'T OPEN! Those are my friends! |
| 06:31.01 | jetscreamer | scarynetworkguy, tell joe i said hi |
| 06:31.02 | TTT | locsmif: i didn't make it up- i found it on the net |
| 06:31.10 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: :) |
| 06:31.11 | Guerin | yeah, i think he stole it from bash.org to start with |
| 06:31.12 | locsmif | TTT, ok heh |
| 06:31.14 | scarynetworkguy | jetscreamer: will do |
| 06:31.15 | Guerin | heh |
| 06:31.20 | dataefx | Phated:you beat me to it |
| 06:31.36 | dabreegster | gotta go |
| 06:31.39 | dabreegster | bye |
| 06:31.40 | yarjar | later |
| 06:31.43 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: *grin* |
| 06:31.44 | dabreegster | night |
| 06:31.52 | Phated | dataefx: It's a fact that I am an agent of some kind. Not FBI, never FBI, but an agent nonetheless. :) |
| 06:31.52 | locsmif | scarynetworkguy: you don't need a gun though, just scare them away =P |
| 06:32.37 | dataefx | Phated: something along the lines of Agent 99 |
| 06:32.46 | locsmif | Agent Orange ? |
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| 06:32.49 | Caelum | jcole: part of the reason was that, since the win3.1 support in OS/2 was so good (it actually ran a real copy of win3.1) developers never bothered writing OS/2 specific apps |
| 06:32.56 | Phated | dataefx: Smith, actually. ;) |
| 06:32.57 | Weeble | Estate agent? |
| 06:33.22 | dataefx | Phated: very well |
| 06:33.25 | locsmif | Agent Smith? |
| 06:33.28 | eQ | goodnight guys |
| 06:33.29 | eQ | ^_^ |
| 06:33.34 | deadcat | i was gonna say that. (= |
| 06:33.36 | Weeble | Estate Agent Smith.... hmmm "Mister Anderson, you see this lovely property...." |
| 06:33.44 | Phated | deadcat: :) |
| 06:33.46 | jetscreamer | dataefx, god i hope not, since i'm Agent86 |
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| 06:33.56 | eQ | 'night <3 |
| 06:34.02 | yarjar | bai |
| 06:34.04 | TTT | Weeble: ROFL |
| 06:34.07 | dataefx | jetscreamer: :) |
| 06:34.08 | deadcat | actually my firefox browser agent is "agent smith" (= |
| 06:34.17 | yarjar | lol |
| 06:34.32 | Weeble | you are a bad person |
| 06:34.37 | Phated | Weeble: FBI Agent Smith: "Obviously you believe you are special, that somehow the laws do not apply to you. But you are wrong, you must also pay taxes..." |
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| 06:35.06 | Weeble | "Taxes...woah" |
| 06:35.13 | jetscreamer | that would be IRS Agent Smith |
| 06:35.15 | ^majik^ | haha |
| 06:35.18 | TTT | Phated: Taxes => mortgage :) He's a real estate agent, rememberr |
| 06:35.25 | Phated | jetscreamer: Oh, yeah. :) |
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| 06:35.34 | Caelum | there must be thousands of people whose title is "Agent smith" |
| 06:35.39 | Phated | TTT: No, no, IRS Agent Smith. |
| 06:35.43 | locsmif | Phated, I'm an upgrade ;) |
| 06:35.46 | joshk | no, no.. "you are a Bad Man" |
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| 06:35.55 | Phated | locsmif: Bah to you. I'm the original. |
| 06:35.57 | Weeble | "Mister Anderson... my taxes....are inevtable" |
| 06:36.02 | g4lt | Phated isn't that an Elf? |
| 06:36.14 | fst | ok, I have a serious issue with grub. After a windows 98 installation (yes for games) microsoft "successfully" entered its bootloader. to reinstall grub was easy but here is the problem: grub is ordered to boot vmlinuz from hd2,1 but when it is about to boot windows xp(hd0,0) or 98(hd0,2) it find reiserfs partitions there! (it actually sees hda/hd0 as a completely different disk. |
| 06:36.28 | Phated | g4lt: Eh? |
| 06:36.42 | Phated | dataefx: "Licence" too. ;) |
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| 06:36.55 | jcole | Caelum: holy crap, ibm still has future plans for os2 - http://www-306.ibm.com/software/os/warp/strategy/#Header_4 |
| 06:37.21 | dataefx | we dont need no stinking licenes |
| 06:37.23 | Supaplex | haha |
| 06:37.25 | Caelum | jcole: they've had a few people maintaining warp4 and releasing fixpaks for years... |
| 06:37.39 | Phated | locsmif: :) |
| 06:37.55 | jcole | Caelum: and, latest mozilla is available for it - http://www.mozilla.org/ports/os2/ |
| 06:37.56 | Caelum | jcole: I think the newest incarnation of os/2 is now sold by some other company, as "ecomstation" or something... |
| 06:38.01 | Caelum | *nod* |
| 06:38.01 | Phated | dataefx: Weeee don't neeed no steenking licence... |
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| 06:38.20 | Caelum | but if you look at posts to alt.os.os2, you won't see all that much life |
| 06:38.34 | dataefx | Phated: and that's the truff |
| 06:38.35 | Caelum | just a few diehards, or people who work with os/2 and help out with emx ports |
| 06:38.54 | Phated | dataefx: Shhh, I'm hunting a wabbit. |
| 06:39.00 | yarjar | Er... Anyone know how I can find out the RPM value of my hard drive (preferably a Windows version... I can't use my Linux computer right now since I'm watching Adult Swim) |
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| 06:39.04 | Caelum | jcole: http://www.ecomstation.com/ |
| 06:39.07 | jcole | Caelum: like the coco max III die hards |
| 06:39.10 | hume | anyone around here knows if there is a way of taking screenshots with a vector graphic program in debian? |
| 06:39.16 | locsmif | haha, this is bash.org day... |
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| 06:39.24 | Phated | locsmif: Eh? |
| 06:39.27 | Guerin | wtf is Adult Swim, apart from pool porn? |
| 06:39.29 | Caelum | hume: no |
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| 06:39.34 | locsmif | Phated, moment |
| 06:39.39 | TTT | Phated: www.bash.org, read top 100 |
| 06:39.41 | Phated | locsmif: Ahhh. |
| 06:39.43 | Caelum | hume: that isn't possible |
| 06:39.44 | scarynetworkguy | fuck this shit I'm running CAT 5 next weekend |
| 06:39.46 | locsmif | ok |
| 06:39.49 | locsmif | hehe :) |
| 06:39.59 | hume | Caelum: not possible? |
| 06:40.07 | yarjar | Guerin: Adult Swim is a period of time when more "adult" cartoons come on Cartoon Network, such as Sealab, ATHF, etc... |
| 06:40.10 | Phated | TTT: I know, I've read, but I don't see what's exceptionally bash-org-isg about today. |
| 06:40.19 | dataefx | Phated: roflol again |
| 06:40.20 | Caelum | hume: windows are in pixels, not in vector objects |
| 06:40.21 | Weeble | hmm |
| 06:40.33 | Phated | Guerin: Pool porn minus paedophilia. |
| 06:40.41 | g4lt | Phated tardsday deserves it's own bash.org.... |
| 06:40.41 | Weeble | well your vector program could render small squares I guess |
| 06:40.45 | Phated | dataefx: Thank you, thank you very much. |
| 06:40.49 | Phated | g4lt: True. |
| 06:40.49 | scarynetworkguy | yes it does |
| 06:40.53 | jcole | hume: that doesn't make sense |
| 06:41.00 | yarjar | If I wanted to watch porn I'd turn on HBO |
| 06:41.01 | hume | Caelum: is there no way of convering, like i could in Adobe Illustrator? Without losing sharpness? |
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| 06:41.29 | fst | q: grub doesn't see hda as hd0 and now some partitions of hda here are unbootable, why is that? |
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| 06:41.43 | Weeble | hmm is illustrator actually good at it ? every program I've ever seen do that gives very poor results |
| 06:42.06 | locsmif | http://bash.org/?260690 Elmer Fudd |
| 06:42.11 | scarynetworkguy | !punish scarynetworkguy's wifi box for being a steaming pile of useless cosumer level crap |
| 06:42.26 | Phated | Oooo. |
| 06:42.32 | yarjar | Diss. |
| 06:42.36 | Caelum | hume: see man convert |
| 06:42.42 | Guerin | riiight |
| 06:42.49 | Phated | !punish Phated for yawning at 1442 hrs |
| 06:42.51 | Guerin | adult cartoons, but not porn... |
| 06:42.56 | Phated | OUCH! |
| 06:42.58 | Caelum | hume: it *might* be able to convert jpgs/gifs to a vector format... |
| 06:43.05 | Guerin | Phated: you should be more careful. |
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| 06:43.12 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: don't do that to yourself. :) |
| 06:43.12 | Weeble | I'll be impressed if it can Caelum |
| 06:43.13 | Guerin | </movie_quote) |
| 06:43.15 | Phated | Guerin: Damn. I was not expecting that one. |
| 06:43.32 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: HTF does one staple female genitalia to the floor? |
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| 06:43.39 | Phated | On second thought, I don't want to know... |
| 06:43.47 | Supaplex | with BIG staples |
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| 06:43.48 | afrosheen | anyone test the new sarge installer |
| 06:43.54 | dataefx | Phated: good call |
| 06:43.55 | Guerin | dpkg has the tekneek down |
| 06:43.55 | dpkg | parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Guerin |
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| 06:43.59 | Phated | dataefx: *nods* |
| 06:43.59 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: I don't even want to think about it. |
| 06:44.04 | Guerin | afrosheen: yeah, it kicks arse. |
| 06:44.05 | locsmif | Phated, is there something we should know ;) |
| 06:44.05 | jcole | why would you want to "convert" a bitmap to a vector format anyway? |
| 06:44.07 | mwilson | afrosheen: No, no one at all has ever tested it. Didn't you know? |
| 06:44.18 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Now I am feeling pain, damnit. |
| 06:44.21 | mwilson | jcole: Why wouldn't you? |
| 06:44.22 | Guerin | damnit, where did my sarcasm go? |
| 06:44.23 | afrosheen | mwilson: that was almost funny somehow |
| 06:44.33 | Phated | locsmif: Beyond the fact that I'm a girl? :| |
| 06:44.38 | mwilson | afrosheen: Then don't ask stupid questions. |
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| 06:44.41 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: well stop it. :0 |
| 06:44.50 | afrosheen | because stupid people will answer them? |
| 06:44.52 | locsmif | Phated, *g* jus' kiddin wit ya :) |
| 06:45.00 | Phated | locsmif: I know. *girn* |
| 06:45.30 | Phated | Ooo, much with the grinning. |
| 06:45.30 | Phated | Weeble: Stay that way. Shows you're innocent yet. ;) |
| 06:45.36 | Phated | He Weebles but he doesn't fall! |
| 06:45.51 | Phated | That was funny in a parallel universe. |
| 06:46.06 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: oh you can make one stay down. You just gotta try :) |
| 06:46.12 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: OK. :) |
| 06:46.20 | jcole | mwilson: i'm speechless |
| 06:46.21 | Phated | . |
| 06:46.25 | jetscreamer | it's called a brick |
| 06:46.25 | Weeble | ow |
| 06:46.27 | Weeble | hey! |
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| 06:46.28 | afrosheen | weeble wobble jokes..now you've dated yourself |
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| 06:46.31 | afrosheen | ;) |
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| 06:46.36 | Weeble | what did I do to deserve that ? |
| 06:46.46 | Phated | Weeble: :) How does it feel being pinned to the ground by a girl? |
| 06:46.51 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: good work :) |
| 06:46.52 | simonrvn | them being bored :P |
| 06:46.57 | Guerin | !get a room |
| 06:46.57 | dpkg | Fuck you. |
| 06:47.00 | Guerin | hah |
| 06:47.00 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: :) |
| 06:47.02 | Weeble | oh.. I thought you meant using pins |
| 06:47.04 | joshk | hahaha |
| 06:47.11 | simonrvn | !factinfo get a room |
| 06:47.11 | dpkg | get a room -- created by troy <troy@stnbas02-p30.mts.net> at Sun Dec 31 07:05:15 2000 (1316 days); it has been requested 3 times, last by Guerin, 14s ago. |
| 06:47.11 | jetscreamer | i still think of the weebles wobble but they don't fall down jingle a lot and weeble had nothing to do with it |
| 06:47.12 | joshk | that sounds to me like it lacks context |
| 06:47.16 | jcole | !get a life |
| 06:47.16 | dpkg | Try #netsex on EFNet |
| 06:47.21 | joshk | !get linux |
| 06:47.21 | Gnea | hrm |
| 06:47.24 | Guerin | three times in four years... good going. |
| 06:47.28 | simonrvn | !factinfo get a life |
| 06:47.28 | dpkg | get a life -- created by xk <xk@per2-46.vianet.net.au> at Fri Feb 11 19:04:44 2000 (1640 days); it has been requested once, last by jcole, 12s ago. |
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| 06:47.35 | Phated | ONCE! |
| 06:47.37 | afrosheen | jetscreamer: me too, each time I see fat people lose balance..the jingle plays |
| 06:47.37 | simonrvn | holy fuck... |
| 06:47.45 | Weeble | O_O |
| 06:47.46 | SlayerXP | morning |
| 06:47.49 | Weeble | heh |
| 06:47.52 | joshk | simonrvn: ? |
| 06:47.53 | simonrvn | Phated: there's 20000+ factoids in there.... |
| 06:47.53 | Gnea | i see nothing wrong with getting pinned to the ground by a girl :) |
| 06:48.00 | streuner | SlayerXP: hi |
| 06:48.02 | SlayerXP | deary me |
| 06:48.03 | Guerin | SlayerXP: that's not up to your normal standard of greeting. |
| 06:48.05 | Weeble | I haven't lost my balance... Phated's just sat on me |
| 06:48.07 | Phated | SlayerXP: MORNING! IT'S AFTERNOON, YOU TARD! Ahem. I mean, morning, SlayerXP. |
| 06:48.10 | afrosheen | Gnea: depends on the size of the girl |
| 06:48.13 | SlayerXP | London is _deeply_ unpleasant this morning |
| 06:48.13 | Weeble | so it clearly doesn't count |
| 06:48.24 | Weeble | it is chucking it down here |
| 06:48.26 | Phated | Weeble: I am -off- you know. Don't want any pinning with you under me happening here. |
| 06:48.26 | SlayerXP | Guerin: okay. |
| 06:48.27 | Gnea | afrosheen: probably depends upon your size too |
| 06:48.28 | Guerin | SlayerXP: s/this morning// |
| 06:48.30 | Weeble | I need to go buy milk |
| 06:48.33 | afrosheen | Gnea: lol good point |
| 06:48.35 | jetscreamer | well he says he's a girl eh weeble |
| 06:48.36 | Gnea | :) |
| 06:48.38 | Phated | Gnea: Hilarious. :) |
| 06:48.46 | Gnea | Phated: i do what i can ;) |
| 06:48.50 | SlayerXP | BOW DOWN AND WORSHIP, YOU LICE-INFESTED FREAK OF GENETIC ENGINEERING!!!!!! |
| 06:48.53 | streuner | !lart jetscreamer |
| 06:48.54 | SlayerXP | Guerin: better? |
| 06:48.55 | Weeble | hmm |
| 06:48.58 | Guerin | !word SlayerXP |
| 06:48.59 | dpkg | SlayerXP: Word to your mutha! |
| 06:49.00 | niaht | Phated: it is always 00:00 here. |
| 06:49.01 | Gnea | Phated: so how you doin? :) |
| 06:49.02 | afrosheen | Gnea: all I'm saying is, it's gonna take a big girl to pin me down |
| 06:49.03 | Weeble | ta-da! |
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| 06:49.13 | Phated | niaht: Happy to hear. |
| 06:49.13 | jetscreamer | <S>treuner :::wassup::: |
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| 06:49.18 | Phated | Gnea: Doing good, yourself? |
| 06:49.18 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: hey |
| 06:49.19 | Guerin | afrosheen: thanks for sharing |
| 06:49.22 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Yo? |
| 06:49.25 | SlayerXP | Phated: good weekend? |
| 06:49.30 | Weeble | jetscreamer, I say that too sometimes, nobody belives me |
| 06:49.30 | afrosheen | Guerin: your pleasure |
| 06:49.36 | Phated | SlayerXP: Four days, hell yeah! |
| 06:49.38 | Gnea | Phated: better than i was several hours ago |
| 06:49.39 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: you gotta stop starting these things. :) |
| 06:49.45 | SlayerXP | A very very warm morning combined with just a tiny bit of rain has turned London into a sauna |
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| 06:49.51 | Guerin | afrosheen: so when are you gonna start trolling about wy d-i has no gui installer? |
| 06:49.56 | Weeble | a tiny bit of rain ? |
| 06:49.57 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: It's fun to see them think it's an honest mistake on my part. ;) |
| 06:50.02 | Weeble | it is pouring here :( |
| 06:50.04 | afrosheen | Guerin: I did that earlier, thanks for remembering |
| 06:50.06 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: that it is. :) |
| 06:50.08 | Phated | SlayerXP: Tsk, pitiful. |
| 06:50.10 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: :) |
| 06:50.12 | Weeble | I had to close the windows cos there was a puddle on the stairs |
| 06:50.19 | offroadgeek | I just installed the kde packages, and now when I logout or boot, I always get the gui login window... how do I change it back to boot to console? |
| 06:50.19 | Guerin | SlayerXP: welcome to my 33degC 100% humidity world |
| 06:50.21 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: We know better, don't we, precioussss? |
| 06:50.25 | streuner | SlayerXP: it seems its he same temperature in whole europe... ;-) |
| 06:50.28 | afrosheen | I did whore some karma though, and got 5 people to reply |
| 06:50.31 | g4lt | Weeble that's why they make bathrooms.... |
| 06:50.36 | streuner | s/he/the/ |
| 06:50.39 | Phated | g4lt: Haha. |
| 06:50.43 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: nasssty little hobbitssss |
| 06:50.49 | joshk | Phated: considering where you are, you'd rather get a typhoon.. |
| 06:50.50 | Gnea | Phated: making love in the middle of a thunderstorm is the shiznit |
| 06:50.51 | Linephreak | hello everyone |
| 06:50.54 | mwilson | offroadgeek: If you didn't want a display manager, why did you install one? |
| 06:50.54 | Weeble | why do you want a thunderstorm ? |
| 06:50.54 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Yesss, yesssss, they know nothing... |
| 06:50.59 | Guerin | afrosheen: that and a dollar will buy you half a weak american beer. |
| 06:51.08 | Phated | joshk: Singapore is not vulnerable to typhoons, hurricanes, or earthquakes. |
| 06:51.09 | Weeble | g4lt, for rain ? |
| 06:51.17 | Phated | Gnea: I'm sure. :) It'd be awesome. |
| 06:51.18 | offroadgeek | mwilson: i do want one... just not 'always on' |
| 06:51.22 | afrosheen | Guerin: I kinda figured someone in here would catch that though, numbers game and all |
| 06:51.22 | Phated | Weeble: I like storms. |
| 06:51.25 | joshk | Phated: only a metric fuckton of fines |
| 06:51.32 | Gnea | Phated: hehe too bad i'm in NY ;) |
| 06:51.34 | scarynetworkguy | Guerin: hey our beer..... sucks |
| 06:51.36 | Linephreak | can some one tell me how to fix this problem |
| 06:51.37 | Phated | joshk: True. :) |
| 06:51.40 | Weeble | a what is a metric fuck ? |
| 06:51.43 | Gnea | beer? |
| 06:51.44 | Phated | Gnea: HAH. |
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| 06:51.53 | streuner | SlayerXP: Have you aircondition there? |
| 06:51.54 | Linephreak | i have a held broken package |
| 06:51.56 | Phated | !wine me |
| 06:51.58 | Weeble | dunno not too keen on them |
| 06:52.02 | Linephreak | or packages |
| 06:52.03 | Weeble | possibly cos my roof leaks |
| 06:52.04 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: nothing the nasssty little hobbitsssss know nothing. :) |
| 06:52.06 | Guerin | Weeble: about the same as an imperial one, i guess. |
| 06:52.09 | Phated | DAMNIT, DPKG HAD A WINE FACTOID. |
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| 06:52.16 | scarynetworkguy | !dine me |
| 06:52.18 | Weeble | storms mean I get wet |
| 06:52.20 | joshk | !wine |
| 06:52.20 | dpkg | well, wine is at http://www.winehq.com/. It stands for Wine Is Not an Emulator or alternative win32 API. very buggy, will be a major part of the death of M$. The sources.list lines are: deb http://people.debian.org/~andreas/debian wine main, deb-src http://people.debian.org/~andreas/debian wine main. apt-get install shiraz, or a tasty alcohol beverage. |
| 06:52.25 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: They thinkssss we knowsss nothing... |
| 06:52.27 | Weeble | do storms make you wet Phated? |
| 06:52.31 | Gnea | Phated: so you into sid or woody? ;) |
| 06:52.32 | Phated | Weeble: Let's not go there. |
| 06:52.37 | joshk | haha |
| 06:52.40 | Phated | Gnea: I'm a siddite. |
| 06:52.43 | niaht | too late |
| 06:52.46 | Gnea | w00t |
| 06:52.50 | Gnea | Phated++ |
| 06:52.55 | Phated | Thank you. :) |
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| 06:53.00 | afrosheen | haha didn't catch the double entendre |
| 06:53.01 | Gnea | yw :) |
| 06:53.02 | joshk | hmm here it comes |
| 06:53.21 | joshk | the Special Treatment For Women On IRC syndrome |
| 06:53.22 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: :) nothing |
| 06:53.29 | jcole | i heard doom iii sucks |
| 06:53.33 | Phated | Fuck it all, you guys like having a girl around for this crap, don't you? ;) |
| 06:53.36 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: :) |
| 06:53.36 | jcole | i sure hope it doesn't |
| 06:53.37 | Guerin | joshk: where? I ain't seen none... |
| 06:53.38 | joshk | doom 2 sucks more because it ate my save file |
| 06:53.45 | joshk | Guerin: you know it's true |
| 06:53.54 | Gnea | joshk: oh, someone forgot to teach you how to respect women? ;) |
| 06:53.56 | Weeble | hmm I am not convinced it is restricted to irc frankly |
| 06:54.01 | afrosheen | doom3 is slick |
| 06:54.05 | joshk | Weeble: well duh |
| 06:54.06 | Guerin | joshk: I do? It's a good thing I have you to tell me what I know... |
| 06:54.09 | joshk | but it's more distressing on IRC |
| 06:54.13 | Gnea | even the trailer for doom 3 is teh suck |
| 06:54.16 | Phated | Weeble: It's fun sometimes, but gets tiring. |
| 06:54.19 | jcole | Phated: you jsu may be the only female here |
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| 06:54.22 | joshk | Gnea: of course i know how to |
| 06:54.27 | joshk | jcole: not really |
| 06:54.28 | Phated | jcole: No, helix too. |
| 06:54.32 | g4lt | jcole she isn't |
| 06:54.36 | Gnea | :o |
| 06:54.38 | afrosheen | nope, doom 3 = best looking game ever |
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| 06:54.47 | Weeble | whereas I just get mostly ignored by everyone |
| 06:54.50 | afrosheen | the gameplay gets boring but the gfx + sound = 110% |
| 06:54.59 | Weeble | except every so often some guy on irc thinks I am female |
| 06:54.59 | Phated | Weeble: You do? |
| 06:55.00 | Guerin | ah, ffs, there are a bunch of female regulars, they just don't all like being subjected to the OMFG CHIX0RZ bullshit that is happening now |
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| 06:55.08 | Weeble | Phated, yeah |
| 06:55.10 | Gnea | Weeble: I get the same thing sometimes |
| 06:55.15 | Phated | Guerin: Yeppers, but it doesn't happen that much... |
| 06:55.15 | Weeble | I should get a job as a ninja |
| 06:55.19 | Phated | Weeble: *shrugs* |
| 06:55.22 | Weeble | nobody would ever see me |
| 06:55.31 | Gnea | man |
| 06:55.34 | Phated | I... seee... YOU.... |
| 06:55.41 | Weeble | you can?! |
| 06:55.41 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: nassssty little knowing nothing hobbitssssss we hatesss them :) |
| 06:55.42 | Phated | Damn. Someone please smack the LOTR out of me. |
| 06:55.47 | Weeble | erk |
| 06:55.55 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: We hatesss, then, yesssss. |
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| 06:56.02 | Phated | Weeble: More than was needed. |
| 06:56.06 | g4lt | Weeble TMI TMI TMI |
| 06:56.10 | Gnea | NuBus: i need batteries too.. for my digital camera :P |
| 06:56.26 | Weeble | yes folks amazing as it may seem I take my clothes off to have a shower |
| 06:56.35 | joshk | .. |
| 06:56.41 | scarynetworkguy | Weeble: good just don't share |
| 06:56.43 | g4lt | no, really, TMI |
| 06:56.47 | afrosheen | it's more amazing that you're showering on irc |
| 06:56.48 | Gnea | scarynetworkguy reminds me of that old fart in rocky & bullwinkle in that episode where the old lady talks to the mirror |
| 06:57.08 | Caelum | Weeble: not your fault some people have an overactive imagination :P |
| 06:57.11 | NuBus | Gnea: does it take a funky unique kind of one that's a pain to find except from the original manufacturer, and overpriced too? |
| 06:57.13 | Phated | Fuck, the debate team just had a party without me. *fumes* |
| 06:57.18 | joshk | debate team? |
| 06:57.18 | afrosheen | lol |
| 06:57.18 | NuBus | (I'm feeling bitter about them today y'see :) |
| 06:57.22 | joshk | college, high school? |
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| 06:57.28 | Weeble | they love it really |
| 06:57.29 | afrosheen | well, no use arguing with them about it |
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| 06:57.34 | joshk | our debate team in HS is full of crazy |
| 06:57.39 | Phated | joshk: MY debate team, damn it. I was third speaker for three years. |
| 06:57.47 | Guerin | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:57.51 | joshk | theyspekalikethisallthetimewhenthey'redebatingexceptfaster |
| 06:57.52 | Guerin | " |
| 06:58.00 | Caelum | arguing is pointless, stupid people will remain stupid |
| 06:58.03 | joshk | andtheypracticethatwaytooanditisreallydistressing |
| 06:58.05 | Phated | joshk: I can do that, really. |
| 06:58.16 | Phated | joshk: I should record me debating sometime... :) |
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| 06:58.21 | Gnea | NuBus: naw just AA's, but i was so stressed from work and intent on getting gas and beer before 2am that i forgot to make it to walmart to get some rechargables.. but i'm on beer #2 now so that plan has been back-burnered |
| 06:58.27 | Weeble | Phated, hah! they ignore you too :( |
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| 06:58.49 | Phated | Weeble: Nah, I'd have chosen to stay home anyways... All the innuendo-spreading FUN! |
| 06:58.51 | jcole | Phated: i take it you've bought stuff from http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/ladies/ |
| 06:58.54 | Gnea | joshk: hahaha |
| 06:58.56 | Guerin | Gnea: 2 beers? |
| 06:58.57 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: *grins* |
| 06:58.57 | g4lt | !qotd51 is <reply> arguing is pointless, stupid people will remain stupid |
| 06:58.57 | dpkg | g4lt: okay |
| 06:58.57 | Caelum | my general argument goes like this: "you are a moron, do some fucking research, now fuck off" |
| 06:59.05 | SlayerXP | excellent. a chap I am loosly associated with has failed to set up a caching DNS server. he's been trying all weekend. |
| 06:59.07 | Gnea | Guerin: these are 16oz cans |
| 06:59.08 | Phated | jcole: No income, no credit card. So, no. |
| 06:59.08 | Guerin | Gnea: where's the dui limit that low? |
| 06:59.11 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: :) |
| 06:59.12 | NuBus | Gnea: aww. dang. Enjoy the beer, worry about batteries later |
| 06:59.15 | g4lt | !qotd0 =~ s/50/50|51/ |
| 06:59.15 | dpkg | g4lt: OK |
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| 06:59.22 | Gnea | NuBus: exactly. :) |
| 06:59.25 | Phated | jcole: I'd have bought off the men's section anyways. |
| 06:59.31 | Guerin | !16*28 |
| 06:59.31 | dpkg | 448 |
| 06:59.34 | SlayerXP | he decided to use gentoo because it would be "easier" and "faster" |
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| 06:59.44 | Guerin | right |
| 06:59.45 | Gnea | gentoo is a waste of time |
| 06:59.45 | g4lt | !no, qotd51 is <reply> <Caelum> arguing is pointless, stupid people will remain stupid |
| 06:59.48 | Phated | SlayerXP: Which idiot? |
| 06:59.49 | Gnea | but |
| 06:59.49 | simonrvn | SlayerXP: bad drugs man |
| 06:59.51 | afrosheen | Gnea: we agree! |
| 06:59.53 | locsmif | !gentoo |
| 06:59.54 | dpkg | from memory, gentoo is a ports-based Linux distro for x86, PowerPC, Sparc and Sparc64 systems. It rules all the inferior distributions (Sadly, not all other distributions are inferior ;). Kinda of akin to BSD according to chouimat, or something you don't want to administer more than 2 of, or a nice file browser, or see also http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2003/44/ and http://www.devcave.net/termos/funny/gentoo.htm, or and see http://www.funroll-loops.org/ |
| 06:59.59 | g4lt | dpkg no, qotd51 is <reply> <Caelum> arguing is pointless, stupid people will remain stupid |
| 06:59.59 | dpkg | g4lt: okay |
| 07:00.01 | NuBus | and I'm getting the feeling I'm going to have to make my own. |
| 07:00.04 | SlayerXP | Phated: no-one you're ever likely to meet, lucky you. |
| 07:00.06 | Guerin | even so, that's gotta be strong beer if you can't drive after two |
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| 07:00.10 | Weeble | ooh |
| 07:00.13 | Phated | SlayerXP: Thank god. :) |
| 07:00.16 | Gnea | like those stupid fuckers who came up with deb-too |
| 07:00.17 | streuner | locsmif: thanks, we know gentoo... |
| 07:00.19 | Weeble | which distro is superior to debian ? |
| 07:00.21 | Phated | !beer me |
| 07:00.24 | Gnea | totally the wrong method of thinking |
| 07:00.28 | Phated | Oh, man. |
| 07:00.36 | scarynetworkguy | person would be the correct term thnk in terms of people as being people and you don't sound nearly so much like a total fucking moron |
| 07:00.45 | locsmif | streuner, I was hoping for a more sarcastic factoid. too bad |
| 07:00.52 | Gnea | so like |
| 07:01.04 | joshk | !coke me |
| 07:01.06 | Gnea | has anyone tried distcc? |
| 07:01.09 | joshk | Gnea: yeah |
| 07:01.11 | Weeble | right I need to go get soaked, milk and bleach |
| 07:01.23 | scarynetworkguy | nassssty hobitsssss and their nassssty bear :) |
| 07:01.23 | Gnea | joshk: yeah? how well would you say it scales? |
| 07:01.38 | Gnea | scarynetworkguy: biznatch! get it right! i'm an elf! :P |
| 07:01.45 | joshk | Gnea: i've not used it for huge things, but it speeds up compiles considerably on my K6-2 |
| 07:01.46 | scarynetworkguy | /s/bear/beer |
| 07:02.07 | ferret | Heh. |
| 07:02.10 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Yesss, yesss, nassssty beersss... |
| 07:02.10 | Gnea | joshk: well i've had this idea in mind.. and deb-too simply "doesn't get it" |
| 07:02.15 | Phated | !wine me |
| 07:02.24 | Gnea | hey! |
| 07:02.25 | Phated | Ahh, there we go. |
| 07:02.27 | scarynetworkguy | much better |
| 07:02.28 | simonrvn | chardonnay |
| 07:02.31 | Gnea | this 6pack was only $3.99! |
| 07:02.36 | Phated | simonrvn: Thanks. |
| 07:02.52 | Phated | !wine me |
| 07:02.55 | joshk | ewww! i can see your man-boobs! |
| 07:02.59 | Phated | Ahhh, tasty. |
| 07:03.00 | peterS | !tell Phated about repeat |
| 07:03.09 | simonrvn | !cmd: wine me (.*?) =~ s/donny/donnay/ |
| 07:03.10 | peterS | Weeble: you're supposed to put them on *below* the waist |
| 07:03.13 | Phated | joshk: Funny how you wouldn't say that to a girl... :) |
| 07:03.16 | Gnea | chardonnay is sweet.. i like it |
| 07:03.19 | jcole | !squirrel |
| 07:03.19 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, squirrel is something you can have fun with if you've got some duct tape handy... |
| 07:03.24 | Gnea | i just don't have any right now :P |
| 07:03.28 | simonrvn | !wine me =~ s/donny/donnay/ |
| 07:03.28 | dpkg | i didn't have anything called 'wine me', simonrvn |
| 07:03.32 | joshk | Phated: actually, if some girl were doing that in front of me, i _would_ make a point of it |
| 07:03.33 | Phated | Gnea: I know, I tasted a little once. |
| 07:03.35 | simonrvn | bugger off bot |
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| 07:03.44 | Phated | joshk: REALLY? |
| 07:03.49 | Gnea | Phated: you should try a few glasses of it ;) |
| 07:03.50 | SlayerXP | what? |
| 07:03.55 | SlayerXP | chardonnay is never sweet |
| 07:03.56 | Guerin | good chardonnay isn't sweet |
| 07:03.58 | Phated | Gnea: Unlikely. |
| 07:04.01 | Guerin | !word SlayerXP |
| 07:04.03 | Gnea | Phated: in the right conditions, of course |
| 07:04.03 | dpkg | SlayerXP: Word to your mutha! |
| 07:04.04 | joshk | Phated: well, see: if it happens, there are only a few possibilities |
| 07:04.07 | SlayerXP | if it's sweet it's not chardonnay |
| 07:04.09 | joshk | 1) drunken stupor |
| 07:04.15 | Phated | Yay. I tasted bad Chardonnay and I'm alive. |
| 07:04.18 | joshk | 2) blind |
| 07:04.21 | Weeble | peterS, err.... |
| 07:04.24 | Gnea | Guerin: no shit sherlock, i was saying it's damn good ;) |
| 07:04.26 | Guerin | unless it's noble chardonnay, which is rarer than fish toes |
| 07:04.31 | Phated | joshk: Sex-crazed. |
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| 07:04.41 | Gnea | SOMEONE READ ME WRONG |
| 07:04.42 | Guerin | Gnea: ah, sweet as in schweeet. |
| 07:04.43 | Gnea | lol |
| 07:04.49 | Gnea | Guerin: precisely. :) |
| 07:04.59 | joshk | Phated: then it would be a come-on instead of just a plain old point :) |
| 07:05.05 | Guerin | !tell offroadgeek about away |
| 07:05.11 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: :) |
| 07:05.18 | Gnea | i wouldn't mind a plain old joint right about now... |
| 07:05.22 | Phated | joshk: Ohh, so it'd be more a "Oooh!" than a "Whoa, whoa!" |
| 07:05.24 | joshk | !dueling banjoes |
| 07:05.25 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: :) |
| 07:05.26 | Gnea | aaaaah |
| 07:05.27 | afrosheen | I have joints |
| 07:05.28 | peterS | Guerin: considering the amount of OT going on in here, thanks to a few people I do not need to name, I think an away message is the *least* of our problems |
| 07:05.29 | joshk | !dueling banjos |
| 07:05.29 | dpkg | [dueling banjos] a weird question that's always asked on the debian lists, or http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-0309/msg00382.html, or what the heck are you talking about |
| 07:05.29 | Gnea | too much of a good thing |
| 07:05.40 | Weeble | silly question but how many of the 644 people in here never speak |
| 07:05.47 | Guerin | peterS: you have several points there. |
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| 07:05.50 | Gnea | afrosheen: yeah but how long would it take you to get here ;) |
| 07:06.03 | afrosheen | Gnea: probably longer than the local hippie |
| 07:06.07 | jcole | speaking of sex crazed, i bought my gf "httpanties"... she didn't get it |
| 07:06.10 | Gnea | Weeble: only the ones that aren't 755 |
| 07:06.18 | Gnea | afrosheen: ROFL |
| 07:06.18 | Phated | jcole: Hahahahahaha! |
| 07:06.19 | Weeble | hmm |
| 07:06.21 | SEP | Weeble, much can be learned from observation... |
| 07:06.24 | afrosheen | jcole: what is important..is if you got it |
| 07:06.31 | joshk | hyper text transfer panties? |
| 07:06.31 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: nassssty we hatessss them :) |
| 07:06.43 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Ok, we're done with Gollum now. :) |
| 07:06.44 | Guerin | I want joints. I even went to a pub with a bunch of NZers and Aussies on sat night, and nobody had any. |
| 07:06.45 | peterS | Guerin: this channel *really* needs an AI that somehow is able to measure on-topicness. anyone offtopic more than 95% of the time automatically gets a +q |
| 07:06.50 | Gnea | scarynetworkguy: how many joints did you smoke tonite? |
| 07:06.51 | afrosheen | let's hope it wasn't the 404 not found ones |
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| 07:06.58 | afrosheen | tranny panties |
| 07:06.59 | Weeble | Guerin, so you can't touch your nose? |
| 07:07.01 | Guerin | peterS: Too big a job for human mods. |
| 07:07.01 | joshk | peterS: i can't help it, i'm going along with the flow |
| 07:07.05 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: OK. |
| 07:07.05 | jcole | afrosheen: lol |
| 07:07.10 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: *grin* |
| 07:07.23 | Candi | yet of course when I ask an ontopic question, no one responds... |
| 07:07.27 | Guerin | Weeble: google joints and see if you get any references to being able to touch your nose |
| 07:07.30 | peterS | joshk: I'm not blaming you. I think the same bot would need an activity threshold. after all, if you only post 1 line and it's offtopic, it's too soon to judge (: |
| 07:07.43 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: *grin* Catch you in the morning... |
| 07:07.44 | Gnea | joshk: so i was pondering some sort of cluster over a vpn using distcc.. how well ya think it'd scale? |
| 07:07.46 | Weeble | well if you have no joints you can't touch your nose |
| 07:07.50 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: See ya. |
| 07:07.51 | Weeble | it stands to reason |
| 07:07.52 | joshk | over a VPN sounds questionable |
| 07:07.57 | Gnea | yeah |
| 07:08.03 | joshk | the network overhead might exceed the compile time saved |
| 07:08.03 | Gnea | as longa s it's not vtund |
| 07:08.09 | Gnea | openvpn is pretty good |
| 07:08.14 | peterS | Gnea: yeah, the VPN sounds like a bad idea, because the CPU overhead of encrypting your source files would, I think, largely negate the benefit of distcc |
| 07:08.28 | Gnea | possibly... |
| 07:08.29 | Gnea | however. |
| 07:08.38 | Gnea | if the bandwidth itself was secured (like, with tc...) |
| 07:08.44 | peterS | Gnea: unless it's hardware-based, I guess, in which case you may as well use that VPN server CPU for *something* |
| 07:08.51 | Caelum | scarynetworkguy: fucking hillarious... |
| 07:09.05 | Gnea | peterS: yeah i was thinking 1ghz x86 or higher |
| 07:09.13 | Gnea | preferably athlon |
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| 07:09.27 | Weeble | anyway I better go |
| 07:09.32 | peterS | Gnea: the point being, even if your CPU can keep up with the VPN traffic, that's CPU you are taking away from your local compile job. I don't know if you'd come out ahead or not |
| 07:10.07 | Phated | Weeble: See ya. |
| 07:10.15 | Weeble | you're prolly getting nasty interrupts upsetting things too |
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| 07:10.27 | Weeble | the room is too hot |
| 07:10.31 | peterS | Gnea: the CPU speed doesn't really matter. what matters is: does it take more CPU to encrypt a source file, *with* all its included header files, than it does to just compile it? |
| 07:10.38 | Gnea | i was thinking tho, if one didin't have the muster to cluster locally, it could possibly be done on a VPN... especially when there's constant compiles going on |
| 07:10.43 | Weeble | the PC and I both generate heat... but the PC switches off :) |
| 07:10.49 | peterS | Gnea: I don't know the answer to that one; probably it doesn't take more CPU, but I wouldn't be terribly surprised if it did |
| 07:10.50 | libpcp | anyone knows a software that can do pppoe server? |
| 07:10.57 | Gnea | peterS: good point |
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| 07:11.56 | Guerin | peterS: I should think so. I can send an uncompressed kernel source (130mb or so) from box to box here by ssh in much less than the four hours it takes me to compule the kernel :) |
| 07:12.20 | peterS | Guerin: heh. ok, then. 4 hours? that sounds kind of extreme |
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| 07:12.39 | Gnea | Guerin: bu tthat's a lan, not a VPN ;) |
| 07:12.45 | peterS | Gnea: doesn't matter |
| 07:12.51 | Guerin | peterS: that's on this 233 laptop with damn slow drives, not on any kind of proper box. |
| 07:12.55 | Gnea | hm |
| 07:13.12 | peterS | Gnea: at least, doesn't matter for my question, which was how much CPU overhead it took for ssh to encrypt it. clearly it's less overhead than the amount of time it takes to send it - how much less, who knows |
| 07:13.16 | lucas | does anyone know of a way to transfer files over a network maintaining hard links? |
| 07:13.16 | Gnea | ah those were the daze |
| 07:13.18 | Guerin | Gnea: true. I don't know the differences in encryption, though. |
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| 07:13.22 | libpcp | anyone has configured pppoe server? |
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| 07:13.40 | Gnea | peterS: i'm trying to figure out where ssh enteres the picture... |
| 07:13.44 | peterS | lucas: I think rsync can do that, given the right flags. failing that, tar + ssh + untar |
| 07:13.57 | lucas | peterS: thanks, i'll give rsync a look |
| 07:13.58 | peterS | Gnea: ssh does approximately the same amount of work to compress your data as a VPN would |
| 07:14.10 | peterS | Gnea: they're even using the same algorithms, in some cases |
| 07:14.16 | peterS | Gnea: that's what the relevance is |
| 07:14.18 | Gnea | ah ha |
| 07:14.32 | peterS | Gnea: s/compress/encrypt/, of course. thinko. |
| 07:14.39 | jm_ | you could always select less demanding cipher in .ssh/config |
| 07:14.48 | peterS | jm_: true, like arcfour. |
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| 07:15.07 | peterS | jm_: or rot13, although I think openssh disables use of rot13 by default |
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| 07:15.27 | jm_ | peterS: hehe |
| 07:15.28 | dataefx | good night all - |
| 07:15.28 | peterS | something about a "security risk" |
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| 07:15.42 | Phated | dataefx: Nighters. |
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| 07:15.54 | |stefan_| | what's the opengl libs for debian ? |
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| 07:16.01 | dataefx | night Phated |
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| 07:16.25 | dataefx | caught signal 12 -- exiting gracefully |
| 07:16.29 | timzter | So, if spamassassin fails to identify an email as spam, Ijust do: spamassassin -r < theSpamEmail.txt ? |
| 07:16.32 | peterS | |stefan_|: you probably want something like xlibmesa-gl-dev |
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| 07:16.56 | |stefan_| | peterS: thanks. i'll look into it =) |
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| 07:17.45 | joshk | timzter: 1. hi 2. yes, and if you have razor configured it also gets sent to the razor central servers |
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| 07:18.00 | jm_ | timzter: using Bayesian filtering ? use switches like --spam and --ham |
| 07:18.19 | w-mute | Hi. Yesterday my system performed an automatical fsck on an ext3 partition at boot time and came up with zillions of timeout errors that looked really shocking. Is there any issue with checking an ext3 file system whatsoever? |
| 07:18.37 | jm_ | w-mute: no, but you may have hardware issues |
| 07:18.41 | timzter | Yes, I have razor configured. But I am wondering why it failed to identify this one message as spam...it's quite obviou |
| 07:18.44 | Guerin | w-mute: apparently there is with yours |
| 07:18.46 | timzter | obvious |
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| 07:19.05 | timzter | jm_: speciy --spam and --ham where? |
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| 07:19.14 | timzter | fg |
| 07:19.15 | joshk | the X-Spam-Something header should tell you where it might have gotten some negative marks |
| 07:19.16 | timzter | oops |
| 07:19.21 | w-mute | jm_: I was afraid so but when I copied the data from that partition to a backup partition no error showed up. That's when I began to wonder what this is all about. |
| 07:19.39 | jm_ | timzter: it's for sa-learn if you're using bayesian filtering, but I guess you're not |
| 07:19.57 | jm_ | w-mute: run badblocks or so |
| 07:20.03 | timzter | joshk: since it did not identify this message as spam, there were no bad marks. |
| 07:20.07 | w-mute | jm_: Good idea. |
| 07:20.09 | joshk | jm_: spamassassin -r seems to imply sa-learn --spam |
| 07:20.19 | timzter | jm_: No, I just have |spamc in my /etc/procmailrc |
| 07:20.59 | timzter | joshk: if that is true, then I guess by my reporting the spam via spamassassin -r, it *should* learn over time |
| 07:21.09 | joshk | yes, that's how the bayesian filter works |
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| 07:21.24 | jm_ | joshk: yup, just read the man page |
| 07:21.30 | timzter | joshk: how do i know if bayesian filtering is on? Or is it on by default? |
| 07:21.48 | w-mute | cu |
| 07:21.53 | simonrvn | you have to turn it on. and it won't start after about 100 mails |
| 07:21.55 | joshk | i don't know, it's been ages since i used SA |
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| 07:22.12 | joshk | hmm... where is dondelelcaro.. he owes me many pictures.. |
| 07:22.20 | johnnyST | hi |
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| 07:22.21 | simonrvn | so you feed it ham and spam, ~50-60 each, and it should kick in |
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| 07:22.55 | jm_ | timzter: read docs in /usr/share/doc/spamassassin |
| 07:23.03 | johnnyST | Is it so that sarge are supported by the securityuppdates already? |
| 07:23.07 | simonrvn | no |
| 07:23.12 | simonrvn | not yet |
| 07:23.16 | cafuego | johnnyST: it doesn't return 404 if you add it, no. |
| 07:23.18 | johnnyST | but soon? |
| 07:23.18 | Guerin | johnnyST: september 12th, IIRC |
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| 07:23.27 | johnnyST | ok thanks. |
| 07:23.34 | Guerin | !tell johnnyST about sarge stable |
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| 07:23.40 | Guerin | johnnyST: read that link |
| 07:23.45 | ahmet-work | hi |
| 07:23.49 | johnnyST | ok |
| 07:24.04 | ahmet-work | are there any articles about sarge release schedule? |
| 07:24.07 | jcole | !slashd0t |
| 07:24.07 | dpkg | SlashDot Headlines: gerbil casemod! ;; p1 overclocked to 4.5 Ghz! ;; BeOS guru gets rogering from CowboyNeal ;; Linux runs on bicycle pump! |
| 07:24.17 | Guerin | nice |
| 07:24.29 | Guerin | not too far from the truth, either |
| 07:24.30 | simonrvn | !slashdott |
| 07:24.30 | dpkg | Slashdott Headline (10 shown): Horizontal elevator plans scrapped ;; Masturbation proven to cure cancer! ;; Small nuclear reaction from mixing Coke & Pepsi kills 3 ;; GAMP taking the world by storm ;; Bin Laden uses AOL ;; 486 Overclocked to 2.1Ghz ;; Overclockers causing global warming? ;; Canada invades U.S.A. ;; Microsoft buys Earth for $6.8 trillion ;; Top 10 Top 10 lists. |
| 07:24.51 | cafuego | Guerin: 8 August 2004 - testing-security working for all architectures; Official security support for sarge begins |
| 07:24.57 | deadcat | anyone has a howto on dm-crypt? |
| 07:24.59 | Nurbs | "Masturbation proven to cure cancer!" that's old news :) |
| 07:25.03 | somiaj | hehe, (: |
| 07:25.18 | simonrvn | cafuego: oh, ok |
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| 07:25.32 | joshk | cafuego: i think that might have been pushed back.. |
| 07:25.40 | Guerin | cafuego: right you are |
| 07:25.50 | jm_ | hahaha GAMP taking the world by storm |
| 07:26.03 | cafuego | joshk: Either way, "deb http://security.debian.org/ sarge/updates main contrib non-free" works OK. |
| 07:26.09 | joshk | oh neat |
| 07:26.09 | joshk | yeah |
| 07:26.19 | joshk | jm_: i never understood how GAMP caught on |
| 07:26.32 | jm_ | joshk: it's one of those things, like goatse |
| 07:26.33 | joshk | iirc it was a Penix thing |
| 07:26.35 | joshk | oh? |
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| 07:26.59 | Jambon | could some one help me. i want to install enlightenment engage, but i can't because esmart-config is not in my $PATH. i have no clue how to do this. help? |
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| 07:28.37 | JimHandjob | whats up my nigger loving bitches. Too cheap to pay for software you richard stallman dick sucking fags? |
| 07:28.42 | JimHandjob | hehe |
| 07:28.44 | JimHandjob | its ok though |
| 07:28.48 | JimHandjob | biatches |
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| 07:28.57 | JimHandjob | we all know you all loooooooovvvvvvvvvvveeeeeeeeeeeee the cock |
| 07:29.08 | simonrvn | JimHandjob: stfu |
| 07:29.18 | timzter | Dont understand.. I submitted the bad email using: cat message | spamassassin -r then I run: cat message | spamc | less -- I don't see that it has learned anything. The message is still considered NON-spam. |
| 07:29.18 | Jambon | hello. my name is jimhanjob. i am an oreo |
| 07:29.19 | simonrvn | JimHandjob: lamest troll i've ever seen. |
| 07:29.29 | bougyman | let him speak, he discredits himself more with every word. |
| 07:29.29 | simonrvn | !ops |
| 07:29.29 | dpkg | Meet your friendly #debian operators: bdale, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk. Or: This is the Emergency Debian Hologram please state the nature of your #debian emergency. |
| 07:29.38 | JimHandjob | stfu??? is that a new food or what your mom mumbled when i was face fucking her |
| 07:29.55 | Jambon | how old are you? |
| 07:29.55 | JimHandjob | im no troll, esp if you compare me to your sister |
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| 07:30.05 | JimHandjob | old enough to be your father punk bitch |
| 07:30.11 | simonrvn | hehehe, sister... |
| 07:30.12 | locsmif | he did his homework. he waited for op absence |
| 07:30.18 | bougyman | it's bill gates on a drunken binge. |
| 07:30.19 | JimHandjob | your did gives it to you jcole? |
| 07:30.25 | JimHandjob | did *dad |
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| 07:30.44 | bougyman | 08/09-02:31 Ignoring ALL from JimHandjob |
| 07:30.51 | JimHandjob | uhoh |
| 07:31.03 | JimHandjob | i pissed of the little girls in this fucking lame channel? |
| 07:31.15 | simonrvn | JimHandjob: well at least i like people, unlike you you fascist piece of scum. oh wait, lower than scum |
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| 07:31.18 | Guerin | ok, wtf are the gdmf ops |
| 07:31.20 | mwilson | If it's lame, why are you here? |
| 07:31.24 | JimHandjob | why would you name your distro for the last 10 years after an erection? |
| 07:31.39 | Jambon | I presume your presumptions are precisely incorrect and that your sarcastic insinuations are far too obnoxious for my immediate comprehension. |
| 07:31.43 | SuperLag | mwilson: how goes it? |
| 07:31.47 | simonrvn | now look who looks like an idiot |
| 07:31.48 | Gnea | JimHandjob: erection or education?/ |
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| 07:31.56 | JimHandjob | oh shit. jambon talks |
| 07:31.56 | mwilson | SuperLag: g'evening |
| 07:32.01 | JimHandjob | faggot |
| 07:32.11 | quiri0n | How to activate login mangager in gnome/debian? |
| 07:32.13 | JimHandjob | mwilson is a cock sucking richard stallman fucking faglover |
| 07:32.15 | Gnea | JimHandjob: you must know all the faggots down in jersey |
| 07:32.23 | simonrvn | is hat suppsoed to be an insult? :) |
| 07:32.29 | mwilson | JimHandjob: More than likely. |
| 07:32.33 | JimHandjob | too bad i saw your mom walking the streets there |
| 07:32.38 | SlayerXP | JimHandjob: you've not quite got the hang of this insult business, have you? |
| 07:32.45 | Jambon | jim: did M$ hire you or something? are you bill gates little son? |
| 07:32.46 | Phated | WTF! |
| 07:32.50 | JimHandjob | a jersey is your mom......i mean a cow. its new jersey dumbass |
| 07:32.50 | Gnea | JimHandjob: is that the best you can do? |
| 07:32.50 | simonrvn | so, who wants to r00t him first? :P |
| 07:33.01 | Gnea | no fucking shit |
| 07:33.03 | SlayerXP | JimHandjob: "it's" |
| 07:33.09 | Phated | simonrvn: Aren't you an op? You cand o it. :) |
| 07:33.13 | Gnea | ahahhaa |
| 07:33.13 | JimHandjob | uhoh, we have a leet one in here |
| 07:33.14 | Phated | can do* |
| 07:33.15 | Gnea | ÍÍÍ CTCP VERSION reply from JimHandjob: mIRC v6.15 Khaled Mardam-Bey |
| 07:33.20 | JimHandjob | he figured out where the 0 key is |
| 07:33.23 | simonrvn | Gnea: easy target.... |
| 07:33.28 | Rawplayer | !ops |
| 07:33.28 | dpkg | Meet your friendly #debian operators: bdale, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk. Or: This is the Emergency Debian Hologram please state the nature of your #debian emergency. |
| 07:33.31 | quiri0n | How to activate login mangager in gnome/debian? |
| 07:33.32 | Rawplayer | :) |
| 07:33.34 | Gnea | JimHandjob: but can you figure out the sysrq key? |
| 07:33.42 | JimHandjob | wow. the biggest list of fags on freenode |
| 07:33.49 | yarjar | XD @ Emergency Debian Hologram. |
| 07:33.51 | Gnea | JimHandjob: is in your hand. |
| 07:33.54 | simonrvn | quiri0n: install gdm/xdm/kdm/wdm/login.app, start it up |
| 07:33.55 | SlayerXP | JimHandjob: I dare you to say that on #1,000 |
| 07:33.55 | joshk | quiri0n: apt-get install gdm.. or kdm.. or xdm.. or wdm |
| 07:33.59 | yarjar | <3 Voyager. |
| 07:34.06 | quiri0n | joshk but i have that |
| 07:34.08 | JimHandjob | wow gnea, that made no sense |
| 07:34.13 | Phated | Can someone plea +b the idiot's ass off. |
| 07:34.15 | Gnea | oh, gee, i'm sorry, was i talking about your DICK? |
| 07:34.22 | quiri0n | but only show me a little window of gdm |
| 07:34.29 | jcole | Jambon: no, JimHandjob is my son, i had anal sex with his mom, never knew of him till now, he's an angry little turd trying to get affection |
| 07:34.34 | JimHandjob | you fag. quit talking about my dick |
| 07:34.36 | yarjar | Just ignored him. |
| 07:34.38 | Gnea | JimHandjob: it should make plenty of sense to you, considering how much thought you put into faggots |
| 07:34.39 | yarjar | *ignore |
| 07:34.41 | locsmif | Phated, he saw a window of opportunity and he took it. just ignode. |
| 07:34.42 | simonrvn | quiri0n: that's all gdm shows, a small window |
| 07:34.44 | yarjar | He'll go away if no one responds to him. |
| 07:34.47 | locsmif | err, ignore lol |
| 07:34.48 | JimHandjob | wow, looks like jcole got a little hurt by my last comments |
| 07:34.59 | Gnea | yeah but no one cares |
| 07:35.03 | Gnea | except you |
| 07:35.09 | simonrvn | JimHandjob: what insecure 'cause it's so tiny, fascist? |
| 07:35.11 | Gnea | so go suck some more cock |
| 07:35.24 | yarjar | Stop feeding the troll! |
| 07:35.24 | Guerin | hey, nothing wrong with sucking cock |
| 07:35.30 | Guerin | don't be using it as an insult |
| 07:35.33 | JimHandjob | fascist??? you are the ones that run an os that no one can decide who is in charge |
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| 07:35.41 | SlayerXP | guys, troll feeding isn't allowed here at this time |
| 07:35.45 | quiri0n | simonrvn but the login manager what apper in art.gnome.org hot to put |
| 07:35.51 | JimHandjob | as i have seen on your site, you guys run off your own staff also |
| 07:35.53 | Gnea | JimHandjob: at least it's stable and works and does the job. |
| 07:35.54 | yarjar | Let the troll starve, k. |
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| 07:36.02 | JimHandjob | awww slayer, too bad. you were next |
| 07:36.03 | yarjar | Gnea: Stop feeding him! |
| 07:36.06 | Stratagerm | How can I view or extract the scripts from a .deb file? |
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| 07:36.10 | simonrvn | Guerin: i know several people who like it. these people with homoerotic fantasies that think it's wrong are just so hung up on themselves... |
| 07:36.13 | JimHandjob | so does win2k fucktard |
| 07:36.15 | Gnea | JimHandjob: you've probably never even booted an iso |
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| 07:36.23 | simonrvn | quiri0n: themed. apt-get gdm-themes or such |
| 07:36.24 | JimHandjob | wow gnea, how wrong you are |
| 07:36.28 | Gnea | JimHandjob: only if you enjoy having it crash on you 50 time s aweek |
| 07:36.31 | Gnea | no |
| 07:36.33 | Phated | Gnea: Stop keeping it going. |
| 07:36.36 | yarjar | GNEA! |
| 07:36.38 | Gnea | i've used win2k on a plethora of systems. |
| 07:36.43 | yarjar | Just stop talking to him dude. |
| 07:36.45 | JimHandjob | that just means gnea, you dont know what your doing |
| 07:36.53 | Phated | Gnea: Stop feeding him, damnit. |
| 07:37.00 | Stratagerm | How can I view or extract the postinst, etc. scripts from a .deb file? |
| 07:37.00 | Gnea | Phated: but it's fun |
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| 07:37.10 | joshk | Stratagerm: dpkg --control wahtever.deb |
| 07:37.13 | joshk | then look in ./DEBIAN/ |
| 07:37.13 | JimHandjob | just give up strat, they are all helpless in here |
| 07:37.15 | Gnea | yarjar: sorry, that won't hurt me, had one hit me already |
| 07:37.15 | kelmo | ar -x *.deb |
| 07:37.16 | Guerin | simonrvn: it's reactionary neo-jock bullshit |
| 07:37.17 | yarjar | Good ol' crowbar |
| 07:37.42 | deadcat | Stratagerm: dpkg -x |
| 07:37.42 | yarjar | ;_; |
| 07:37.42 | kelmo | tar zxvf data.tar.gz |
| 07:37.42 | yarjar | No one is invincible to the crowbar! |
| 07:37.42 | simonrvn | Guerin: of course it is. lame as hell |
| 07:37.42 | quiri0n | simonrvn well... i know that that is installed, but when i select a theme to gdm and close gdmconf, and reboot dont take effect |
| 07:37.42 | quiri0n | apper like before |
| 07:37.46 | yarjar | :-O |
| 07:38.03 | Gnea | yarjar: who the fuck are you? wisconsin eh? i'm moving there soon, i'll find you. |
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| 07:38.08 | JimHandjob | pussies. 1 for me. none for you. JimHandjob out. |
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| 07:38.17 | cafuego | wow, this is the weirdest bug I've ever seen |
| 07:38.19 | yarjar | He left! |
| 07:38.21 | yarjar | :D |
| 07:38.22 | Guerin | haha |
| 07:38.28 | Stratagerm | Not -x, looks like -e or --control, missed it in the man page, THANKS |
| 07:38.33 | yarjar | Sorry Gnea, but my plan did work. |
| 07:38.34 | Jambon | hold up. that retard was from wisconsin? |
| 07:38.35 | Phated | FUCK. WHAT THE HELL WENT ON! |
| 07:38.41 | joshk | Jambon: looks like new jersey |
| 07:38.44 | locsmif | I think this opless situation is non debian like ;) |
| 07:38.46 | Jambon | damn |
| 07:38.59 | Gnea | yarjar: true, he's gone, but you've offended me. |
| 07:39.01 | Guerin | yup, he wasn't trolling in any of his other channels, though - only here |
| 07:39.09 | Jambon | if he was in wiscosin i could have driven over and beat him to death with a sock |
| 07:39.10 | Gnea | stupid wisconsin fuck. |
| 07:39.15 | yarjar | Gnea: Sorry for any offense I may have caused; I was just trying to get him to leave. |
| 07:39.19 | Gnea | i'm gonna move there anyway |
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| 07:39.27 | Phated | Jesus Christ. That was bloody annoying. |
| 07:39.27 | Gnea | cuz it's gonna be me and a state full of idiots |
| 07:39.29 | Guerin | !peace |
| 07:39.34 | joshk | !armistice |
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| 07:39.41 | joshk | !ceasefire |
| 07:39.41 | locsmif | Phated, why aren't you op ? |
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| 07:39.43 | Jambon | gnea: where in wisconsin |
| 07:39.53 | joshk | dude, it says 'nj' |
| 07:39.54 | Gnea | yarjar: best not to piss off a drunken new yorker :) |
| 07:39.55 | joshk | not 'wi' |
| 07:40.00 | locsmif | well, whatever. |
| 07:40.02 | yarjar | Gnea: heh |
| 07:40.03 | Phated | locsmif: No power here. |
| 07:40.06 | jcole | lol |
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| 07:40.14 | Gnea | Jambon: where i move to. |
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| 07:40.18 | Phated | locsmif: Considering I'm awake when the other ops are asleep though... ;) |
| 07:40.28 | cafuego | mysql managed to calculate 4-5 as 18446744073709551615 |
| 07:40.30 | SlayerXP | JimHandjob: well, before you get round to my helping of accusations of homosexuality, here's a picture of my fiancee of 9 years: http://photos.hinterlands.org/p6268802.html |
| 07:40.33 | Gnea | ok ok |
| 07:40.33 | Jambon | gnea; you said you were moving to wisconsin. no? |
| 07:40.34 | Gnea | i'm KIDDING |
| 07:40.36 | Phated | The timezone thingy, we should have an op in each. :) |
| 07:40.37 | SlayerXP | oh he left, shame |
| 07:40.44 | Gnea | i won't be hunting yarjar down :P |
| 07:40.45 | yarjar | yep |
| 07:40.48 | yarjar | :( |
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| 07:40.53 | Guerin | SlayerXP: that never works, anyway |
| 07:40.58 | yarjar | I was looking forward to it |
| 07:40.59 | Gnea | Jambon: yes, i am. got a problem with that? |
| 07:41.00 | Phated | SlayerXP: Jesus, not worth it, you want him to start talking about fucking your fiancee? |
| 07:41.05 | Guerin | SlayerXP: and, like, 9 years as a fiancee? |
| 07:41.07 | simonrvn | he wasn't even replying to my counter-trolls, and he thinks he won? *sigh* |
| 07:41.08 | Phated | SlayerXP: See my point? |
| 07:41.09 | deadcat | SlayerXP: left long ago (= |
| 07:41.13 | SlayerXP | Phated: what happens in his head is his problem |
| 07:41.28 | Phated | SlayerXP: What he says on the channel makes me wish I could pound him. |
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| 07:41.30 | Jambon | gnea: not really. where exactly |
| 07:41.36 | Jambon | cuz i live there now |
| 07:41.38 | Gnea | Jambon: what's it to you? |
| 07:41.39 | locsmif | Phated: exactly, 16 ops and no-one around ... this guy must have had some script running, the timing is too lucky. |
| 07:41.40 | Gnea | no shit heh |
| 07:41.42 | Guerin | SlayerXP: heh, that bed is teh best though. |
| 07:41.45 | Gnea | i noticed |
| 07:41.45 | Phated | SlayerXP: And pound in an entirely painful way. |
| 07:42.06 | SlayerXP | Phated: he's most likely a pathetic teenager with real problems. I pity him. |
| 07:42.07 | Guerin | locsmif: naw, happens all the time |
| 07:42.14 | Phated | locsmif: Hmph. Guerin's awake when the other ops are asleep too, we should op him. :) |
| 07:42.17 | deadcat | Phated: pound/pain ? what we talking about? |
| 07:42.27 | Phated | SlayerXP: I still want to pound him. :) |
| 07:42.29 | yarjar | What time is it where everybody lives? It's 2:46 AM here |
| 07:42.35 | Phated | deadcat: About hurting the idiot. |
| 07:42.42 | Phated | yarjar: 1542 hrs. |
| 07:42.45 | simonrvn | SlayerXP: serious problems. i suspect i hit the core of them... |
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| 07:42.54 | Guerin | 1644, and I'm off to work in 30 minutes |
| 07:42.58 | deadcat | Phated: ah.... (= my bad (= |
| 07:42.59 | Jambon | so how do you tell where they are from |
| 07:43.00 | simonrvn | Phated: btw, i used to be an op... |
| 07:43.02 | yarjar | military time, fancy. |
| 07:43.04 | Phated | Damn, my lunch was completely ruined. |
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| 07:43.09 | Phated | simonrvn: Why'd you lose it? |
| 07:43.10 | yarjar | Jambon, whois |
| 07:43.13 | locsmif | wow, this is scary, I didn't actually *count* the ops... |
| 07:43.15 | Phated | yarjar: My preference. |
| 07:43.18 | quiri0n | Anybody know hot to put a gdm-theme when i inicializate the X |
| 07:43.23 | locsmif | but its 16 exactly :S |
| 07:43.27 | joshk | wow.. |
| 07:43.30 | joshk | inicializate |
| 07:43.30 | simonrvn | Phated: long story. |
| 07:43.33 | joshk | that's pretty cool |
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| 07:43.45 | Phated | simonrvn: Ahh, won't ask. |
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| 07:44.01 | Phated | deadcat: Not a problem. :) |
| 07:44.02 | locsmif | hi .root. |
| 07:44.14 | simonrvn | @tell arturo1_7 -about root |
| 07:44.19 | Phated | I must declare though, that people like that give the human race a bad name. :| |
| 07:44.21 | SIRION93 | slayerxp, what happend to her? |
| 07:44.25 | simonrvn | and no, sometimes the bots miss them.... |
| 07:44.26 | yarjar | ouch |
| 07:44.34 | SuperLag | mwilson: what the hell was that shit with JimHandjob? |
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| 07:44.39 | SlayerXP | SIRION93: what happened to who? |
| 07:44.47 | Phated | SuperLag: Ignore, not worth it. |
| 07:44.48 | simonrvn | Phated: yeh, and a lot of them like that are running things.... |
| 07:44.49 | mwilson | SuperLag: Just your garden-variety moron. |
| 07:44.56 | Phated | simonrvn: FUCK. |
| 07:45.01 | SIRION93 | slayerxp, your fiance, is she still your fiance? |
| 07:45.09 | yarjar | mwilson: I'd say he was more of an insect variety. |
| 07:45.25 | SlayerXP | SIRION93: yup, if she's on her normal schedule she'll most likely be in the shower about now |
| 07:45.29 | locsmif | Phated, such an opless situation should never exist IMHO. or somebody should have a 'magic' 2.6 kernel iptables packet on lay-away ;) |
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| 07:45.29 | Phated | yarjar: You mean slug, actually, which isn't an insect, but a kind of mollusc. |
| 07:45.41 | SIRION93 | slayerxp, ahh cool. what's her ethnic background? |
| 07:45.49 | Phated | locsmif: Or... We could just op Guerin and simonrvn. |
| 07:45.52 | SlayerXP | SIRION93: half french, half algerian |
| 07:45.56 | yarjar | Phated: Doesn't matter what kind of bug, as long as I can squish him. ;) |
| 07:45.58 | Phated | SlayerXP: Exotic. :) |
| 07:45.59 | locsmif | Phated, yeah. agreed :) |
| 07:46.03 | Guerin | don't op me, I'd abuse my power |
| 07:46.08 | Phated | yarjar: NO, I like -some- bugs. |
| 07:46.11 | Phated | locsmif: :) |
| 07:46.13 | SlayerXP | op me, I'd abuse guerin |
| 07:46.14 | SlayerXP | :) |
| 07:46.16 | Phated | Guerin: Fine, not you, then. |
| 07:46.24 | locsmif | Guerin, I'd wrather take your abuse ;) |
| 07:46.26 | yarjar | Phated: I hate all of them. I have a lot of stories relating to most bugs. |
| 07:46.27 | quiri0n | Phated whats wrong with me? |
| 07:46.27 | SIRION93 | slayerxp, wow cool. she's gorgeous. |
| 07:46.29 | Phated | Op me. I'd abuse idiots like that. :) |
| 07:46.34 | SlayerXP | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:46.35 | quiri0n | i just to learn |
| 07:46.39 | Phated | quiri0n: No, no, it's a good thing. :) |
| 07:46.43 | SlayerXP | SIRION93: I'm glad you noticed :) |
| 07:46.59 | yarjar | I have specific reasons for hating flies and ants, for one. |
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| 07:47.01 | Guerin | !tanj |
| 07:47.01 | Phated | SlayerXP: Excellent for you, my friend. :) |
| 07:47.01 | dpkg | hmm... tanj is There Ain't No Justice |
| 07:47.15 | Phated | yarjar: I like butterflies. :) |
| 07:47.15 | quiri0n | I know that i am borring but im spanish and the english is very diff to me |
| 07:47.27 | [muttox] | i want to use JFS XFS or HFS under windows, any of that doable? |
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| 07:47.40 | Guerin | [muttox]: ask a windows channel |
| 07:47.42 | yarjar | Phated: One time a fly flew into my eye, and the dead little fly body stayed in my bottom eyelid for about three days. |
| 07:47.43 | yarjar | ^_^ |
| 07:47.43 | SlayerXP | [muttox]: we just had one troll, we don't need another |
| 07:47.46 | Phated | [muttox]: Does this look like #windows to you? |
| 07:47.52 | Phated | yarjar: EEEW~ |
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| 07:48.06 | yarjar | Phated: Yep. |
| 07:48.09 | [muttox] | i want data i can access from both my linux install and windows install thats not fat32 thats all |
| 07:48.10 | simonrvn | [muttox]: go ask in a windows channel |
| 07:48.12 | yarjar | That's why I'm paranoid about flies now. |
| 07:48.15 | Guerin | yarjar: you should shower more regularly |
| 07:48.28 | yarjar | Guerin: once a day ain't enough no more? :( |
| 07:48.31 | joshk | [muttox]: there is a program for windows that can be used to read ext2/ext3 volumes |
| 07:48.33 | Phated | Anyways, I'll see you all around in a while. :) |
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| 07:48.37 | yarjar | Later. |
| 07:48.39 | Guerin | yarjar: how's a fly survive three showers? |
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| 07:48.44 | Ignignot | somehow I have an image on display :0 and a desktop image ontop of that so now my transparent aterm is picking up the wrong image :\ suggestions? |
| 07:48.51 | [muttox] | ive tried ext2anywhere and it destroyes dats :( |
| 07:48.57 | [muttox] | *data |
| 07:48.57 | cafuego | [muttox]: There's a company called "Paragon Software" who sell Ext2FSAnywhere, which allows you to access ext2 and ext3 read-write from Windows. |
| 07:48.59 | Phated | Guerin: Some peopl are just scared of water in their eyes. :) |
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| 07:49.07 | yarjar | Guerin: It didn't come out. :( |
| 07:49.10 | The_Vulture | Ignignot: put the desktop image on display :0? *shrugs* |
| 07:49.13 | Guerin | ecch |
| 07:49.29 | Guerin | I'm hella sensitive about my eyes - water's about the only thing I'll let near them |
| 07:49.36 | yarjar | Yep. |
| 07:49.41 | Ignignot | us: I'm in xfce that's not really an option in the settings |
| 07:50.01 | meskes | Guerin: Only water? |
| 07:50.03 | anyone | meh. |
| 07:50.07 | yarjar | o_O |
| 07:50.15 | joshk | Guerin: you live in california? |
| 07:50.27 | meskes | I dont think thats the only thing you let near them. :P |
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| 07:51.15 | SlayerXP | i once had a splinter in my eye |
| 07:51.16 | Guerin | meskes: well, no contact lenses, eyedrops, etc. unless I can help it |
| 07:51.19 | SlayerXP | that _hurt_ |
| 07:51.24 | Guerin | joshk: hell no. I'm in South Korea |
| 07:51.31 | Ignignot | SlayerXP: ouch |
| 07:51.37 | joshk | Guerin: i noticed the 'hella' |
| 07:51.46 | deadcat | i am in CA. |
| 07:51.47 | yarjar | cafuego: sounds fun, I'll have to try it sometime |
| 07:51.48 | Guerin | joshk: it's used ironically |
| 07:51.50 | SlayerXP | cafuego: lucky break. |
| 07:51.51 | [muttox] | you had a stainless steel nail in your eye? |
| 07:51.55 | Ignignot | cafuego: at least it won't rust |
| 07:52.01 | cafuego | joshk: Guerin's an australian whose (ha!) defected to korea. |
| 07:52.03 | yarjar | LOL |
| 07:52.11 | meskes | I use Visine on a regular basis |
| 07:52.11 | Guerin | it might stem from the time my sister put scissors into her eye - while jumping on the couch with them |
| 07:52.17 | yarjar | @ Ignignot |
| 07:52.31 | Guerin | she pulled them straight back out, and there was no permanent damage |
| 07:52.41 | simonrvn | yikes |
| 07:52.41 | cafuego | SlayerXP: Oh, it was great! |
| 07:52.42 | yarjar | o_O |
| 07:52.44 | simonrvn | lucky |
| 07:52.47 | Guerin | cafuego: I resent that remark! |
| 07:52.55 | SlayerXP | cafuego: I meant that semi-seriously. at least you didn't have rust particles to worry about |
| 07:52.56 | Guerin | cafuego: I am NOT an australian! |
| 07:53.04 | cafuego | Guerin: Your not? |
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| 07:53.15 | Guerin | Im not |
| 07:53.20 | joshk | His not |
| 07:53.21 | cafuego | So what are ya? |
| 07:53.24 | Guerin | my not |
| 07:53.30 | Guerin | my New Zealand saram |
| 07:53.45 | cafuego | Oh, I do humbly apologise. |
| 07:54.02 | Guerin | as you ought to |
| 07:54.06 | cafuego | You're from the OTHER dutch colony ;-) |
| 07:54.07 | Guerin | heh |
| 07:54.08 | yarjar | oooo |
| 07:54.11 | Guerin | haha |
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| 07:54.23 | Guerin | I got mistaken for an aussie at the NZ pub in seoul on sat night though |
| 07:54.36 | cafuego | Guerin: Lost the finny accent yet? |
| 07:54.41 | Guerin | perhaps on account of the fact that I was wearing a stockman's hat |
| 07:55.13 | Guerin | cafuego: never really had one. Worked with too many brits, and my grandfolks are european |
| 07:55.17 | cafuego | or was that 'yit' ? |
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| 07:55.47 | locsmif | australia, heh, "dutch colony" ... |
| 07:56.02 | Jambon | i need to add something to $PATH, but i don't know how , could someone help? |
| 07:56.07 | cafuego | Only ever spent time at Auckland AP (and got scared when there were 3 women with orange afros sitting in a row) |
| 07:56.13 | lucas | !someone |
| 07:56.14 | dpkg | ***anyone: No such nick/channel - and yes, there probably is someone, somewhere, who knows or runs it; that doesn't mean *I* do. |
| 07:56.18 | Guerin | cafuego: haha |
| 07:56.33 | SlayerXP | Jambon: export PATH=$PATH:/new/path/here |
| 07:56.35 | simonrvn | !seen anyone |
| 07:56.35 | dpkg | anyone <simon@simonrvn.cloaked> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 6m 32s ago, saying: 'meh.'. |
| 07:56.44 | Guerin | auckland shouln'ty be taken as representative of NZ in general |
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| 07:57.06 | Rawplayer | !oi |
| 07:57.06 | dpkg | I have a name you know. |
| 07:57.15 | Rawplayer | m |
| 07:57.20 | Rawplayer | !tell Rawplayer about oi |
| 07:57.30 | yarjar | !tell yarjar about oi |
| 07:57.31 | cafuego | Guerin: I know, auckland has (relatively) few (worried) sheep ;-) |
| 07:57.38 | locsmif | wasn't australia an island of exile for the worst british criminals? |
| 07:58.08 | Jambon | slayerxp: ok i got error. it said esmart-config wasn't in the path when i tried to run the confiugre for engage. i don't know about esmart, where it is, or how exactly to apply said equation |
| 07:58.35 | cafuego | locsmif: No, just the poorest ones. |
| 07:59.01 | SlayerXP | Jambon: what's esmart? what's engage? which package did you install it from? |
| 07:59.07 | yarjar | Well, I'm off to bed. I need more than the four hours of sleep I got last night - although I wish I didn't. |
| 07:59.11 | yarjar | 'Night all! |
| 07:59.25 | SlayerXP | Jambon: and what do you mean by "run the configure for" ? |
| 07:59.40 | cafuego | SlayerXP: tarball heaven |
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| 08:00.10 | locsmif | cafuego, oh, ok. kind of an event in history hardly discussed, the origins of how australia came to be. |
| 08:00.11 | Jambon | i didn't install it from a package. enlightenment engage is a osx dock clone. when i did "./configure" in the unzipped engage folder i got that error. i have no clue what esmart is or what to do about it |
| 08:00.26 | SlayerXP | Jambon: oh well, bad luck. |
| 08:00.42 | Jambon | that's the story of my life |
| 08:00.56 | SlayerXP | Jambon: I'd suggest buying a copy of Problem Solving 101, but I guess you wouldn't have a clue where to get it from |
| 08:01.27 | SlayerXP | http://www.hinterlands.org/stupidmerk.txt |
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| 08:02.05 | cafuego | locsmif: 50,000 years ago people settled and lived happy lives; 250 years ago the utch stumbled across a piece of desert coast and decided there was nobody to trade with; 230 years ago the british invaded and killed a crapload of aboriginals, which until 1980 were originally "fauna". Currently george Dubyas butt-monkey is in charge. That's a short summary ;-) |
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| 08:03.05 | Jambon | SlayerXP: it's kinda hard to get help for a program most people don't know exists |
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| 08:03.40 | Jambon | a simple google search for "enlightenment engage" would show you htat |
| 08:04.05 | cafuego | Jambon: hint: it wants *-dev packages. |
| 08:04.10 | simonrvn | cafuego: pretty accurate summary, i must say |
| 08:04.31 | cafuego | simonrvn: I might be off a few years here and there. |
| 08:04.37 | simonrvn | cafuego: variations on the same theme happened all over the place, as you know |
| 08:04.45 | Gnea | E is the best WM |
| 08:04.45 | NuBus | 400 and something for the dutch, I think. but close enough |
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| 08:04.51 | NuBus | right order :) |
| 08:05.16 | cafuego | NuBus: Yeah... the english have been here longer then 230 years too; australian's been an actual country for over 200 now |
| 08:05.20 | locsmif | cafuego, haha, great, that's a good documentary voice-over don't ya think, :P |
| 08:05.37 | Gnea | well, for some of us ;) |
| 08:06.13 | cafuego | Tip: When calculating differences between to two unsigned int fields in mysql, make sure the result isn't negative. |
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| 08:06.29 | cafuego | Coz it wraps around abckwards to MAXINT |
| 08:06.44 | \amethyst | cafuego =~ s/ in mysql// |
| 08:06.58 | The_Vulture | *nods* |
| 08:07.04 | cafuego | \amethyst: if you do it in C the compiler will whine. |
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| 08:07.31 | cafuego | \amethyst: I only note it here coz in mysql 3.x it works fine, whereas 4 does the wrapping. |
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| 08:08.57 | SlayerXP | cafuego: or use ABS |
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| 08:09.33 | asperon | is the debian package of php with pcntl ready? |
| 08:09.36 | \amethyst | cafuego: Sounds like mysql 4 makes the result type of a binary operator the same as the operand types |
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| 08:09.45 | cafuego | SlayerXP: yeah, except if you need to know whether the diff is -1 or +1 |
| 08:09.54 | cafuego | \amethyst: yeah |
| 08:09.55 | SlayerXP | oh I see |
| 08:10.17 | cafuego | asperon: Probably not. |
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| 08:10.51 | asperon | cafuego: ok, i was in here about 2 weeks ago, and was told that it would be in the coming week or so, cant remeber who told me so though |
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| 08:11.23 | Zap-W | bananas have lots of sugar |
| 08:11.27 | cafuego | asperon: Well, you could check the changelog at http://packages.debian.org/php4 |
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| 08:11.58 | \amethyst | cafuego: cast(foo - bar AS SIGNED) perhaps |
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| 08:12.23 | Shorty- | anyone recall the option to pass to make to make it use both cpus in an SMP system? |
| 08:12.47 | Nurbs | make -j5 or similar. |
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| 08:12.55 | cafuego | \amethyst: Yeah, but it's easier to change the field types than to update god knows how much code :-) |
| 08:13.00 | Nurbs | even on a single CPU system you might want to give -j2 or -j3 a try |
| 08:13.05 | cafuego | Shorty-: make -j NCPU+1 |
| 08:13.31 | cafuego | Shorty-: it's even more fun when you use distcc on a bunch of SMP boxen |
| 08:13.38 | Shorty- | oh, hold on |
| 08:13.39 | Shorty- | gcc |
| 08:13.41 | Shorty- | my bad :/ |
| 08:13.59 | Nurbs | gcc can't do parallel compiles |
| 08:14.02 | jcole | what is port 1212 |
| 08:14.04 | cafuego | \amethyst: ... for lazy people like me, anyway. |
| 08:14.05 | \amethyst | cafuego: <reads docs> actually, it would be cast((foo - bar) AS SIGNED) |
| 08:14.09 | Shorty- | oh.. ok |
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| 08:14.25 | \amethyst | hrm |
| 08:14.27 | Shorty- | say for a kernel compile, I wanted to make bzImage.. on 2 cpus.. how would I go about it? |
| 08:14.30 | \amethyst | I dunno |
| 08:14.30 | Nurbs | jcole: looked in /etc/services? if it's not defined there it could be anything :) |
| 08:14.39 | cafuego | Shorty-: make -j2 bzImage |
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| 08:14.46 | cafuego | Shorty-: Except 3 and not 2. |
| 08:14.50 | \amethyst | I hate SQL, anyway . . . :) |
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| 08:14.58 | Shorty- | ah yes |
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| 08:15.08 | cafuego | \amethyst: Meh, it's not as bad as .net and it pays the rent ;-) |
| 08:15.19 | skaught | Does anybody happen to know how I can use boot.img as a floppy to load the Sarge netinst CD? |
| 08:15.19 | Shorty- | brilliant! thankyou. |
| 08:15.32 | Shorty- | I could do an alias in bashrc to make, to make -j3 |
| 08:15.37 | Shorty- | or could anyone see that breaking things? |
| 08:15.45 | cafuego | Shorty-: If you use kernel-package, you can do 'export CONCURRENCY_LEVEL=3; make-kpkg kernel-image' |
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| 08:15.51 | Nurbs | Shorty-: broken makefiles would break |
| 08:15.56 | simonrvn | Shorty-: i don't recommend it, at least not in .bashrc |
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| 08:16.12 | Shorty- | ah.. righto.. I figuired I'd ask |
| 08:16.14 | simonrvn | temporary CL kinda thing maybe |
| 08:16.21 | infiniy00 | what od people use for task lists, notes, calendaring on linux? |
| 08:16.30 | simonrvn | infiniy00: echo |
| 08:16.53 | simonrvn | yes, i'm serious |
| 08:16.55 | cafuego | Shorty-: You could try 'export MAKEFLAGS=-j3' in .bashrc |
| 08:17.04 | infiniy00 | huh |
| 08:17.08 | cafuego | infiniy00: I use Evolution |
| 08:17.13 | cafuego | infiniy00: and vi |
| 08:17.20 | The_Vulture | I use calendar(1) some times.. |
| 08:17.22 | Shorty- | evolution, I'll have to check this out |
| 08:17.29 | simonrvn | cal is useful |
| 08:17.29 | Shorty- | I'm using mozila thunderbird |
| 08:17.30 | Shorty- | I really like it |
| 08:17.31 | joshk | i use mutt |
| 08:18.12 | infiniy00 | k ..thunderbird and mutt don't have calendars do they? |
| 08:18.12 | simonrvn | i keep everything in my head... the "stickies" i use as reminders and such |
| 08:18.28 | Shorty- | infiniy00, no.. :/ |
| 08:18.36 | cafuego | if[ -s ~/.todo ]; cat ~.todo; fi; alias todo='vi ~/.todo' |
| 08:18.37 | PerfDave | I use the calendar / reminder applet on my mobile phone. Which isn't Linux, but is always on my person. |
| 08:18.41 | simonrvn | mozilla has a calendar feature now |
| 08:18.42 | cafuego | Just throw that in .bashrc |
| 08:18.59 | infiniy00 | hmm |
| 08:19.00 | \amethyst | infiniy00: There is Sunbird, the new Mozilla calendar. Haven't tried it, I use text files |
| 08:19.26 | joshk | hehe |
| 08:19.38 | joshk | all these stupid birds |
| 08:19.43 | joshk | i want them for dinner kthxbye |
| 08:19.50 | \amethyst | joshk: One's a fox now |
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| 08:20.11 | joshk | not by choice |
| 08:20.26 | \amethyst | joshk: Actually, I'm running Mozilla Powergoat right now |
| 08:20.31 | joshk | haha |
| 08:20.39 | joshk | what was that extension called? |
| 08:20.41 | joshk | firesomething |
| 08:20.42 | ami_tjc | where can I control what services I start at boot ? |
| 08:20.46 | \amethyst | joshk: Firesomething, yes |
| 08:20.49 | joshk | that should seriously get packaged ;) |
| 08:21.11 | simonrvn | ami_tjc: update-rc.d invoke-rc.d man update-rc.d |
| 08:21.29 | \amethyst | joshk: As part of the mozilla-firefox package |
| 08:21.33 | infiniy00 | sunbird doesn't look impressive |
| 08:21.40 | streuner_ | ami_tjc: read /etc/init.d/README too |
| 08:21.50 | simonrvn | hehe powergoat |
| 08:22.09 | simonrvn | does the powergoat have powergoat smell? |
| 08:22.09 | ami_tjc | simonrvn: that one I know, is there a more usefriendly way? |
| 08:22.23 | simonrvn | ami_tjc: rm, ln -s, cp, mv |
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| 08:22.41 | simonrvn | apt-cache search is your friend |
| 08:22.48 | skaught | ami_tjc : try update-rcc.d |
| 08:22.57 | skaught | *update-rc.d |
| 08:23.36 | SlayerXP | Firepony here |
| 08:23.38 | \amethyst | ami_tjc: maybe rcconf is what you want? |
| 08:23.41 | ami_tjc | what about interactive boot, how do I get that |
| 08:24.14 | simonrvn | what? |
| 08:24.41 | simonrvn | why would you want interactive boot? |
| 08:24.49 | \amethyst | what is interactive boot? |
| 08:24.52 | simonrvn | wtf is interactive boot? |
| 08:25.13 | ami_tjc | simonrvn: where I can interact at boot, eg, choose not to start a service or two |
| 08:25.44 | simonrvn | ami_tjc: configure your runlevels properly, and you don't have to do any such kludge |
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| 08:25.48 | \amethyst | ami_tjc: Hm. That's an idea |
| 08:26.05 | SIRION93 | anyone know what to put in during the debian install that says Writing inode tables: |
| 08:26.25 | SlayerXP | .... |
| 08:26.28 | The_Vulture | SIRION93: leave it to write them.. |
| 08:26.28 | simonrvn | you mean mkfs.ext2? |
| 08:26.38 | simonrvn | leave it alone |
| 08:26.43 | SIRION93 | vulture, okie dokie |
| 08:26.53 | joshk | SIRION93: yah. it's just a slow procedure |
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| 08:27.01 | SIRION93 | joshk, oh ok |
| 08:27.14 | SIRION93 | thanks guys/galz |
| 08:27.21 | ami_tjc | \amethyst: do you know of interactive boot in debian, I think redhat has that |
| 08:27.23 | SIRION93 | this is my first time installing debian, or linux for that matter |
| 08:27.31 | SIRION93 | so far it seems to be going well on my dell laptop |
| 08:27.55 | Nurbs | ami_tjc: you could modify /etc/init.d/rc if you were somewhat experienced :) |
| 08:28.09 | Phated | SIRION93: Don't jinx it. ;) |
| 08:28.17 | SIRION93 | phated, ack!! i know :D~ |
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| 08:29.12 | ami_tjc | Nurbs: I can, but don't want to, want something more userfriendly |
| 08:29.33 | simonrvn | "*nix is friendly, it's just picky as to its friends are" |
| 08:29.39 | simonrvn | who* |
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| 08:29.57 | Nurbs | ami_tjc: it would be user-friendly after you rewrote it. :) |
| 08:29.59 | simonrvn | here we go with the turkish spambots.. |
| 08:30.02 | ami_tjc | simonrvn: nothing to do with linux, just what I want |
| 08:30.18 | Nurbs | ami_tjc: it was just a suggestion anyway |
| 08:30.20 | \amethyst | ami_tjc: You could *maybe* hack something into /etc/init.d/rc to call rcconf, but it would be difficult |
| 08:30.22 | simonrvn | ami_tjc: np. maybe look at how rh et al. do it, if you like |
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| 08:30.50 | ami_tjc | \amethyst: u know nothing of interactive boot? |
| 08:30.58 | \amethyst | ami_tjc: Nope |
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| 08:31.34 | simonrvn | i don't see any point to it really, but if you want it, go ahead and start working on it |
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| 08:32.28 | ami_tjc | simonrvn: I think thats a good feature |
| 08:32.29 | Nurbs | indeed. even if one wants to start different services at different times w/o having to configure a full runlevel, one can simply use /etc/init.d/* |
| 08:32.29 | \amethyst | simonrvn: It's occasionally useful, especially if you run out of runlevels |
| 08:32.44 | Nurbs | when do you run out of runlevels? |
| 08:32.45 | \amethyst | simonrvn: Rather, I have been in a few situations where it would be useful |
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| 08:32.51 | zignig | BLEH! |
| 08:32.54 | simonrvn | pretty rare |
| 08:33.05 | Phated | How does one use up runlevels? |
| 08:33.13 | \amethyst | Nurbs: You have 2--5, and the ``sooper sekrit'' 7--9 |
| 08:33.19 | Nurbs | \amethyst: so? |
| 08:33.32 | Nurbs | \amethyst: using more than 2-3 is really weird |
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| 08:33.57 | ami_tjc | \amethyst: did you use rcconf? |
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| 08:34.38 | \amethyst | Nurbs: Sometimes I want to start with a display manager, sometimes without; sometimes with web server, sometimes without. Etc. That's already four combinations right there |
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| 08:35.10 | \amethyst | ami_tjc: No, I modify the links by hand because I still haven't gotten used to update-rc.d |
| 08:35.11 | Phated | \amethyst: So you pretty much have one runlevel for each possible combo insteadof starting and stopping services? |
| 08:35.52 | SEP | hmm i can't think that would scale very well :) |
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| 08:35.58 | Nurbs | \amethyst: you can just use a script which starts one of the combinations afterwards |
| 08:36.00 | simonrvn | *sigh*, back to seting up rrdtool for the ntpd |
| 08:36.07 | \amethyst | Phated: No, but sometimes I'm booting in a different environment (missing network, upgrading video cards) |
| 08:36.15 | Nurbs | SEP: at least it's only exponential ;) |
| 08:36.21 | SEP | lol :) |
| 08:36.28 | Phated | \amethyst: Ahhh, I see what you mean then. :) |
| 08:37.03 | \amethyst | Nurbs: It's infrequent enough that I usually just modify one of the runlevels before shutting down, and use that when I boot |
| 08:37.05 | simonrvn | i have 3: 1,2, and 6 |
| 08:37.13 | ami_tjc | \amethyst: what runlevel do you use for what combinations of what services? |
| 08:37.52 | simonrvn | oh and -b on a rare occasion |
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| 08:38.10 | \amethyst | ami_tjc: 2 for normal boot (net + gdm), 3 for net, 4 for neither |
| 08:38.20 | \amethyst | ami_tjc: I don't do the fourth combination usually |
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| 08:38.29 | ami_tjc | \amethyst: ok |
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| 08:39.02 | lewis | howdy |
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| 08:40.05 | \amethyst | I kind of wish debian had a `disable' mode for rc scripts. You can rename the link to D99foo, but then update-rc.d doesn't know to get rid of that when reenabling the service |
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| 08:40.58 | lewis | I have a few questions regarding e-mails and hostnames. currently, for some reason, when e-mails are sent via forms on my website, the MAIL FROM is 'www-data@' - so the messages get frozen - what is wrong? |
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| 08:41.42 | timzter | If I download and install python 2.3 manually, how do i tell dpkg that I have done so. dpkg stil thinks I am using python 2.1 when I am trying to install python-gdbm |
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| 08:42.13 | \amethyst | timzter: Install from a debian source package, using the debian packaging tools |
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| 08:42.37 | SEP | whats the best tool for the job of merging 2 text files consisting of ip's bytes in and bytes out (ipfm logs) |
| 08:42.56 | Phated | cat? |
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| 08:43.04 | \amethyst | SEP: merging how? |
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| 08:43.44 | SEP | the result shouold be all ip's from both files and the sum of all bytes, diided in in and out |
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| 08:44.55 | Phated | O_o Seems a little.. Demanding. :) |
| 08:45.03 | \amethyst | SEP: what is the format of each line? |
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| 08:46.26 | RoyK | any idea how to get woody into one of these? http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/6013/SYS-6013P-T.cfm |
| 08:46.33 | RoyK | can't find the SATA drive :( |
| 08:47.37 | Edward_ | who knows how I gan get traffic info using mrtg or cacti from a sparc running debian.. |
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| 08:47.47 | Edward_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:47.57 | Edward_ | it's to much for mrtg or cacti to understand.. |
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| 08:48.45 | lewis | where does sendmail get the MAIL FROM hostname from, when sending outgoing e-mails? |
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| 08:49.00 | andika | what is the best practice for NAT ip public vs private ratio? 1 public IP for 256 private ones? |
| 08:49.24 | jcole | wow |
| 08:49.32 | \amethyst | SEP: If the lines are of the form "123.45.67.89 28389", then perl -e 'my %ips = (); while(<>) { chomp; my ($ip,$bytes) = /^([0-9\.]) \s*(\d*)$/; $ips{$ip} += $bytes; } for my $k (keys %ips) 5D{ print $k . " " . $ips{$k} . "\n"' file1 file2 |
| 08:49.36 | Nurbs | andika: depends on what the users do |
| 08:49.36 | NE054D15T | ok, question: i want to upgrade my current i386 kernel to the i686 one available, then add the 2.4.26-smp-i686 one, etc. while i was using synaptic to do so, it said /lib/modules/2.4.26-1-smp already existed, etc, move it? so i moved it and told it to continue, etc. how can i make sure it will reboot properly? |
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| 08:49.47 | ami_tjc | \amethyst:is settin up apache through apt-get a good idea? |
| 08:50.10 | \amethyst | ami_tjc: Why wouldn't it be? |
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| 08:50.22 | andika | Nurbs: can't guess yet, it will serve DSL users |
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| 08:50.44 | ami_tjc | \amethyst: ok, can you poin to a good tutorial? |
| 08:50.47 | SIRION93 | how long does it take to write the inode tables? |
| 08:51.16 | jcole | lewis: you can specify that in the sendmail config file |
| 08:51.33 | SIRION93 | i have a prompt next to "Writing inode tables:" doesn't list anything though |
| 08:52.09 | Edward_ | 2 bad.. |
| 08:52.15 | lewis | jcole: ok - let me find it |
| 08:52.19 | jcole | lewis: apt-get install webmin-sendmail |
| 08:52.29 | SIRION93 | edward_, ok so it's basically still installing and so on |
| 08:52.34 | \amethyst | ami_tjc: Try http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/ ( docs-1.3/ if you're using apache 1.3) |
| 08:52.37 | andika | SIRION93: prompt? it will prints some kind of 'counter' |
| 08:52.49 | Edward_ | SIRION93, ? |
| 08:52.54 | lewis | rather, I need to locate it in the exim4 config... |
| 08:52.56 | SIRION93 | andika, hmm hasn't listed anything. and it's been running for 15 minutes or more |
| 08:53.02 | SIRION93 | edward_: sorry thought u were talking to me |
| 08:53.12 | Edward_ | nope... sorry.. |
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| 08:53.22 | andika | SIRION93: what are you doing? new install? |
| 08:53.31 | SIRION93 | andika, yeah |
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| 08:53.42 | andika | SIRION93: which installer do you use? |
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| 08:54.28 | \amethyst | lewis: You can pass -f address to sendmail (or exim) when sending the message |
| 08:54.30 | SEP | \amethyst, the fiels are like 'ip bytein byteout' |
| 08:54.46 | SIRION93 | andika, lilo |
| 08:54.52 | lewis | no, the mails are sent by web forms etc |
| 08:54.54 | SEP | the problem is that an ip is more then once in the file, |
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| 08:55.07 | \amethyst | lewis: What program is sending the mails? |
| 08:55.08 | skaught | Anybody have any insight, I've got an ISA E-Com etherlink III, when booting the latest debian-installer diskset, I can't get a DHCP address (from various sources) but those sources still show an active connection |
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