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| 00:00.37 | carrett | LSorensen, thanks. |
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| 00:00.52 | carrett | LSorensen, should i be able to share my printer over appletalk too? |
| 00:00.52 | cafuego_ | and netatalk is fairly easy to set up |
| 00:01.07 | cafuego_ | carrett: Depending ion the printer, yes. |
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| 00:01.34 | dohma | where do i download the lastest dibian?? |
| 00:01.35 | carrett | cafuego_, basically i just need an OS 9 driver for the printer, right? |
| 00:01.43 | cafuego_ | dohma: www.debian.org |
| 00:01.59 | greycat | dohma: /msg dpkg install |
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| 00:02.30 | cafuego_ | carrett: There's a print server thing in netatalk, you can configure that to print to postscript enabled printers.. so that the mac sees it as a networked laserwriter or somesuch. |
| 00:02.37 | max1mus00 | i've had apache installed and needed ssl support. i installed the apache-ssl module and now i have two distinct installations of apache. is there a better way? i want 1 httpd.conf file!!! |
| 00:02.59 | carrett | cafuego_, cool. thanks |
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| 00:03.00 | cafuego_ | max1mus00: apache-ssl isn't a module. You wanted libapache-mod-ssl |
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| 00:03.03 | larsie_ | nailbiter: woooaah! Just got minicom to work :P |
| 00:03.22 | nailbiter | larsie_: funky. :) so .. what'd you do? |
| 00:03.36 | max1mus00 | cafuego_: hmm.. gonna try it, thanx |
| 00:03.37 | cafuego_ | carrett: Or you can upgrade your girlfriends mac to Debian :-) |
| 00:03.38 | larsie_ | nailbiter: Ah, logged on a Super Stack II 3300 |
| 00:03.42 | reaper | anyone here speak french? whats the abbreviation for "Miss" in french |
| 00:03.46 | reaper | like, Miss Sally |
| 00:03.53 | carrett | cafuego_, hehe. she's terminally challenged :) |
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| 00:03.57 | Xenguy | reaper: Madmoiselle ? |
| 00:04.05 | cafuego_ | carrett: Oh, with KDE or Gnome she should be fine. |
| 00:04.06 | reaper | yeah but thats not an abbreviation |
| 00:04.09 | greycat | !french |
| 00:04.09 | dpkg | Vous pouvez obtenir de l'aide sur Debian sur le canal #debian-fr - For help in french, please join #debian-fr |
| 00:04.10 | larsie_ | nailbiter: I've got three, used to have four. Started some networking aragement, and bought four SS2 3300, with Matrix module. |
| 00:04.15 | Xenguy | reaper: ahhh |
| 00:04.16 | larsie_ | Just config some' stuff |
| 00:04.26 | greycat | reaper: I thought it was "Mdme." but that might be wrong. Ask #debian-fr |
| 00:04.30 | nailbiter | larsie_: ;-) at least you didn't have to wheel out a VT100 trolley .. |
| 00:04.48 | carrett | cafuego_, well, i'm taking small steps. first i push her to OS X, then maybe a Linux |
| 00:04.50 | thomas_adam | greycat: Mme |
| 00:04.58 | cafuego_ | carrett: Took me a while to convince my wife, but she runs KDE on her G3 now :-) |
| 00:05.00 | reaper | its mlle, thanks for the tip on that channel |
| 00:05.01 | greycat | thomas_adam: then what's the abbreviation for Madame? |
| 00:05.07 | larsie_ | nailbiter: What's the huge differnet between VT100 and vt102 ? |
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| 00:05.09 | carrett | cafuego_, 'tis hard work indeed |
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| 00:05.14 | cafuego_ | greycat: mme |
| 00:05.18 | greycat | cafuego_: thought so... |
| 00:05.35 | cafuego_ | possibly 'Mme.' |
| 00:05.38 | greycat | oh well, french is a silly language. |
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| 00:06.34 | Cyph_ | ok .. succesfully switched from 'woody' to 'sarge' in my 2nd day as debian user :) |
| 00:06.35 | nailbiter | larsie_: they're both ancient models of DEC terminals. the vt102 supposedly had some extra features over the other, but i can't remember what .. |
| 00:06.37 | Cyph_ | still lovin it |
| 00:06.49 | Cyph_ | after like 8 years of RH |
| 00:06.50 | Cyph_ | :) |
| 00:07.10 | nailbiter | the variety of .. stuff .. asked here is stunning. :) |
| 00:07.12 | greycat | nailbiter: one could conceivably read the terminfo source to find out... |
| 00:07.17 | dohma | which .iso do i need to download debian sarge?? do i need disc1 and disc2 ?? why 10 disc?? |
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| 00:07.26 | greycat | dohma: /msg dpkg d-i |
| 00:07.29 | larsie_ | Hahah, nailbiter ... |
| 00:07.30 | Cyph_ | dohma, just get one disk :) |
| 00:07.30 | nailbiter | greycat: my eyes itchy just thinking of that. :-/ |
| 00:07.33 | dohma | thx |
| 00:07.35 | TheBlueWizard | Cyph_: easy to upgrade, right? :) |
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| 00:07.37 | dohma | so the first iso is good?? |
| 00:07.42 | Cyph_ | blue .. not really |
| 00:07.52 | Cyph_ | i found out one of my 3 disks in this sys is messed up |
| 00:07.57 | Cyph_ | all kinds of filesys errors |
| 00:08.02 | Cyph_ | so i did a clean install |
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| 00:08.04 | Cyph_ | on another disk |
| 00:08.12 | Cyph_ | from the sarge iso |
| 00:08.13 | TheBlueWizard | ah |
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| 00:08.21 | Cyph_ | not debian's fault |
| 00:08.25 | Cyph_ | but a faulty disk |
| 00:08.40 | kjoonlee | hullo :) |
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| 00:08.53 | Cyph_ | i found out i can customise my Grub the same way i did Lilo |
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| 00:09.04 | Cyph_ | the VGA=791 option |
| 00:09.08 | Cyph_ | highres console mode |
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| 00:09.53 | greycat | what the fuck is a "pack" and what does it have to do with DCC? |
| 00:10.10 | thomas_adam | man wolves |
| 00:10.15 | cafuego_ | greycat: ey? |
| 00:10.16 | Cyph_ | a pack .. that's what they use on them warez chans |
| 00:10.22 | Cyph_ | 'sending you pack #bla |
| 00:10.26 | greycat | Cyph_: I figured as much... |
| 00:10.28 | dohma | godot. where do i download a simple net-install cd?? |
| 00:10.28 | dohma | <dohma> which site?? |
| 00:10.28 | dohma | <dohma> i can't seem to find it on debian.org |
| 00:10.29 | Cyph_ | they do that over dcc |
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| 00:10.44 | thomas_adam | !tell dohma about netinst |
| 00:11.11 | Cyph_ | what i like best about debian |
| 00:11.14 | Cyph_ | over RH |
| 00:11.22 | Cyph_ | is the apt-get vs rpm |
| 00:11.29 | nailbiter | greycat: XDCC is actually a search service. :) a 'packet' is basically a downloadable bundle which you can request by /msg'ing a bot in the channel .. |
| 00:11.32 | gaasfet | thomas_adam, hello :) |
| 00:11.46 | runixd | interesting, it takes hours to resolve host now |
| 00:11.51 | sussudio | greycat: in english; XDCC = warez |
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| 00:12.07 | thomas_adam | gaasfet: Umm, hello. |
| 00:12.20 | thomas_adam | gaasfet: What can I do for you? |
| 00:12.22 | Cyph_ | useful for trying out 'windowze software' before you buy it :) |
| 00:12.38 | gaasfet | thomas_adam, any reationship to Samuale_adams? |
| 00:12.49 | Cyph_ | often it's such mess that you'll never buy it |
| 00:12.52 | gaasfet | sorry spelling |
| 00:12.53 | Cyph_ | just use it every once in a while :) |
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| 00:13.01 | thomas_adam | gaasfet: No, seeing as my surname is ADAM in the singular AND NOT ADAMS. |
| 00:13.13 | gaasfet | OK |
| 00:13.20 | greycat | thomas_adam: you get this a lot :) |
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| 00:13.33 | thomas_adam | greycat: Sigh, and the classic "Adam Thomas". :) |
| 00:13.53 | gaasfet | thanks for all your help thomas_adam |
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| 00:14.04 | thomas_adam | gaasfet: With respect to...? |
| 00:14.13 | sussudio | thomas_adam: not even Grizzly Adams? |
| 00:14.15 | gaasfet | a few weeks ago |
| 00:14.22 | thomas_adam | gaasfet: Oh right. |
| 00:14.26 | thomas_adam | sussudio: Nah. |
| 00:14.33 | gaasfet | always helpful a real tropper |
| 00:14.36 | dohma | thx!!! |
| 00:14.42 | sussudio | because he lives on a mountain with xteddy |
| 00:14.51 | thomas_adam | sussudio: :-P |
| 00:14.56 | sussudio | (and probably some badgers) |
| 00:15.04 | Weeble | badgers! |
| 00:15.06 | thomas_adam | sussudio: snow badgers? |
| 00:15.08 | greycat | ok, I have to see what this thing is. |
| 00:15.13 | sussudio | thomas_adam: and iceweasels |
| 00:15.14 | Weeble | ware badgers! |
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| 00:15.22 | gaasfet | bill gates must really like you |
| 00:16.08 | Weeble | me personally? |
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| 00:16.22 | gaasfet | nah in principle |
| 00:17.11 | rvf | is sarge's xfree86 working correctly? |
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| 00:17.31 | sussudio | !wayttd rvf |
| 00:17.32 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, rvf? |
| 00:17.32 | greycat | hey, how come xteddy stays on top when I didn't use -float? |
| 00:17.33 | pingouin | rvf, i do not have visible troubles.... |
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| 00:17.49 | sussudio | greycat: i think fat teddies float |
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| 00:18.15 | rvf | just upgraded a machine to sarge. set up xfree86. It starts and works correctly for about 5 seconds then dies without an error message. |
| 00:18.52 | thomas_adam | rvf: ... which we'll have to guess? |
| 00:19.08 | WootImRoot | rvf: The machine dies, or X dies? |
| 00:19.11 | pingouin | rvf, /var/log/XFree86.0.log, |
| 00:19.15 | carrett | there's no appletalk option in network filesystems in the kernel config...is it included by default? am i blind and it's actaully in there? |
| 00:19.21 | carrett | 2.6.7 |
| 00:19.24 | rvf | X dies |
| 00:19.38 | rvf | there is no error message |
| 00:20.04 | sussudio | #459320: xserver-xfree86 gets eaten by invisible bunnies |
| 00:20.10 | greycat | hah |
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| 00:20.25 | sussudio | apt-get install holy-grenade |
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| 00:20.39 | parag0n | i cant get X to run |
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| 00:20.55 | medgno | sussudio, E: Couldn't find package holy-grenade |
| 00:21.01 | Xenguy | parag0n: a common problem - think of it as your initiation ;-) |
| 00:21.07 | parag0n | it starts, but the background is garbled |
| 00:21.07 | thomas_adam | sussudio: Three shall be the number lest thou proceed to four. |
| 00:21.13 | sussudio | medgno: you haven't added the python deb sources, then. |
| 00:21.14 | parag0n | the mouse appears fine tho |
| 00:21.19 | pingouin | Xenguy, lol |
| 00:21.26 | g4lt | that's because sussudio can't spell holy-hand-renade-antioch |
| 00:21.33 | sussudio | is Devon in the eastern part of england? |
| 00:21.35 | parag0n | i'v spent the whole day trying diff things to get it started |
| 00:21.40 | thomas_adam | sussudio: SW |
| 00:21.43 | g4lt | sussudio mapquest.com |
| 00:22.00 | g4lt | i can spell it, i just can't type |
| 00:22.04 | parag0n | eventuelly i had to reinstall cos of all the installed rubbish l( |
| 00:22.22 | thomas_adam | sussudio: Where there are cream-teas aplenty, and ample parking. |
| 00:22.37 | Xenguy | parag0n: not sure if this still works but... |
| 00:22.49 | Xenguy | parag0n: try -> /msg dpkg install xf4 |
| 00:22.53 | Xenguy | parag0n: etc |
| 00:23.08 | dohma | is the net sarge install. same as the sarge installer disc 1 .iso image? or differnet? |
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| 00:23.26 | thomas_adam | dohma: You could check, lovey. |
| 00:23.33 | dohma | thx |
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| 00:23.38 | dohma | does sarge support sata?? |
| 00:23.50 | thomas_adam | dohma: 2.4.27 does. |
| 00:23.51 | sussudio | dohma: depends on your controller, doesn't it? |
| 00:24.06 | sussudio | thomas_adam: 2.4.26 had some stuff added |
| 00:24.14 | thomas_adam | sussudio: Good. |
| 00:24.23 | sussudio | some promise sata thing |
| 00:24.26 | Weeble | hmm how do I find out why certain packages are being held back ? |
| 00:24.33 | sussudio | !tell Weeble about held back |
| 00:24.36 | thomas_adam | Weeble: dist-upgrade |
| 00:24.54 | thomas_adam | Weeble: How to ask questions in proper Ingleeeesh. |
| 00:25.12 | dohma | nice!!! |
| 00:25.15 | sussudio | enwrishhh |
| 00:25.19 | dohma | sarge is nice.. picked up my sata !! |
| 00:25.33 | Weeble | hmm? |
| 00:25.50 | dohma | once last questions.. does sarge. support glibc 2.3?? |
| 00:25.57 | greycat | !factinfo held back |
| 00:25.58 | dpkg | held back -- last modified at Sun Dec 14 01:09:02 2003 by dondelelcaro!~don@archimedes.ucr.edu; it has been requested 17 times, last by greycat, 27s ago. |
| 00:26.03 | nailbiter | dohma: it ships _with_ glibc 2.3.2. |
| 00:26.07 | dohma | cool!!! |
| 00:26.15 | dohma | nailbiter. wihch packages is that?? |
| 00:26.19 | greycat | dpkg, no, held back is <reply> see kept back |
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| 00:26.20 | dpkg | okay, greycat |
| 00:26.22 | nailbiter | dohma: 'libc6' |
| 00:26.24 | greycat | (sorry, dondelelcaro) |
| 00:26.25 | dohma | thx!!! |
| 00:26.37 | dohma | can i do a apt-get install libc6 |
| 00:26.42 | dohma | and that will install glibc 2.3.2 |
| 00:26.47 | sussudio | :-| |
| 00:26.58 | _rene_ | libc6 is quasi-essential |
| 00:26.59 | greycat | dohma: if you're in testing/unstable you already *have* it. |
| 00:27.05 | _rene_ | once you install sarge you *have* it |
| 00:27.05 | g4lt | !info glibc |
| 00:27.07 | dohma | oh wow!! thx!! |
| 00:27.09 | rvf | ok, more info re: sarge xfree86 - root can startx fine, user can't, but the Xwrapper.config gas allowed_users=console in it any ideas? |
| 00:27.10 | nailbiter | dohma: if you install sarge, you'll already have a copy of glibc 2.3.2. |
| 00:27.11 | g4lt | ahh |
| 00:27.11 | greycat | dohma: if you're in stable, you CAN NOT GET IT. |
| 00:27.20 | sussudio | quasi in the sense that you break your system if you fuck with it? |
| 00:27.22 | dohma | thank you so much!! i needed glibc 2.3 |
| 00:27.23 | dohma | :) |
| 00:27.32 | greycat | dohma: /msg dpkg FAQ |
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| 00:29.00 | vvff | I can't seem to get my mouse to work with Woody. It is a usb mouse, and I know it works(with windoze), but I tried it both as usb and with a usb-to-ps2 adapter, and it still isn't working. |
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| 00:29.21 | greycat | sussudio: he *admitted* to it? |
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| 00:29.27 | sussudio | greycat: yes, he did. |
| 00:29.30 | kjoonlee | wff: which kernel do you use? |
| 00:29.41 | vvff | cat the /dev/input/mouse* and /dev/usb/mouse* says device not found. |
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| 00:29.44 | eeyore- | greycat: hell i "strip /lib/*.so*" once ... |
| 00:29.44 | greycat | sussudio: damn.... he has some weird substitute for self esteem |
| 00:29.50 | vvff | kjoonlee: 2.4.26-1 |
| 00:29.53 | sussudio | greycat: he didn't like it or something, so he forcefully deleted it. |
| 00:29.58 | Weeble | thomas_adam, I have so say I am none the wiser for your last answer |
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| 00:30.25 | kjoonlee | wff: load modules input, mousedev, usbcore, hid |
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| 00:30.37 | vvff | kjoonlee: ok. jas. |
| 00:30.43 | kjoonlee | wff: what does "lspci -v | grep HCI" tell you? |
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| 00:31.41 | thomas_adam | Weeble: If you have held packages, you either have to 'dist-upgrade' or install the package in question. If the package is one you placed on hold yourself do: apt-get --ignore-hold install foo, or echo foo hold | dpkg --set-selections |
| 00:31.50 | vvff | kjoonlee: ok, thanx. works now. |
| 00:32.04 | greycat | thomas_adam: dist-upgrade won't override hold |
| 00:32.11 | Error_X | I want to copy the windows fonts over to linux (xfree) but where shall I copy the files too? |
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| 00:32.25 | thomas_adam | greycat: I know that, but I still don't know *what* he wants to do. |
| 00:32.27 | rvf | ok - it was gnome-session that was causing X to die |
| 00:32.39 | Weeble | I didn't plan to dist-upgrade, and I don't think I placed any holds myself |
| 00:32.49 | kjoonlee | wff: heh. If you see problems, you *might* need to load the correct hci modules that match your 'lspci -v|grep HCI' output. |
| 00:32.51 | greycat | Weeble: /msg dpkg kept back |
| 00:32.55 | thomas_adam | Weeble: Then be more specific. |
| 00:33.00 | rvf | with a 'RenderBadPicture' error |
| 00:33.01 | greycat | !VAGUENESS |
| 00:33.01 | dpkg | VAGUENESS KILLS! |
| 00:33.22 | T_VoiD | Weeble: the explanation: if upgrading a package requires removing one installed or adding a new not installed, then apt-get upgrade won't upgrade it |
| 00:33.34 | nailbiter | Error_X: '/usr/local/share/fonts' |
| 00:33.38 | thomas_adam | Weeble: man apt-get, READ IT. |
| 00:33.45 | g4lt | greycat you DO realize that dpkg is case-insensitive? |
| 00:33.55 | Error_X | nailbiter: thanks |
| 00:34.01 | greycat | dpkg, VAGUENESS =~ s/KILLS/(KILLS|CAUSES (CANCER|IMPOTENCE|BALDNESS|ACNE|SARS))/ |
| 00:34.01 | dpkg | OK, greycat |
| 00:34.05 | greycat | g4lt: yes. yes, I do. |
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| 00:34.22 | greycat | g4lt: but that particular one is better when it's screamed in CAPS |
| 00:34.33 | thomas_adam | Is there... |
| 00:34.35 | thomas_adam | !ARGH |
| 00:34.38 | g4lt | greycat so we can justifiably beat some sense into you? ;P |
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| 00:34.51 | greycat | g4lt: it's aesthetic, not functional. |
| 00:34.52 | sussudio | greycat: you should probably have put 'CAUSES' in front of all of those |
| 00:35.05 | greycat | !VAGUENESS |
| 00:35.05 | dpkg | VAGUENESS MAKES THE BABY JESUS CRY! |
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| 00:35.10 | Error_X | nailbiter: its only 1 file there, where is the standard fonts? |
| 00:35.12 | greycat | sussudio: uh... I did...? |
| 00:35.15 | rvf | would anyone know what causes a RenderBadPicture from gnome-session in sarge? |
| 00:35.20 | Weeble | I just want to see what the "problem" deps are, package X needs missing Y etc |
| 00:35.21 | LSorensen | sblivedell |
| 00:35.22 | LSorensen | !sblivedell |
| 00:35.22 | dpkg | sblivedell is, like, Some Dell machines come with a "SB Live!" that isn't. PCI ID 1102:0006 is this "Software Accelerated DSP" based SB Live!, which uses a different driver that doesn't work too well yet. It does stereo only (through both front and read speakers) and perhaps SPDIF. It may work with the ALSA emu10k1x driver. It is only meant to work with the Dell driver for XP. Complain to Dell if you wanted a real SB Live! oem. |
| 00:35.23 | rvf | RenderBadPicture error that is |
| 00:35.39 | LSorensen | That should do. |
| 00:36.10 | nailbiter | Error_X: they're scattered around your filesystem. if you've installed x-ttcidfont-conf, defoma will try to create a central font collection in /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType |
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| 00:36.22 | T_VoiD | the association of the two words "software accelerated" should be banned |
| 00:36.35 | cafuego_ | !sblivedell =~ s/read s/rear s/ |
| 00:36.35 | dpkg | cafuego_: OK |
| 00:36.43 | greycat | T_VoiD: then they'd just come up with a different buzzword |
| 00:37.05 | nailbiter | Error_X: fonts that you install (as opposed to fonts that come with debian packages) should go in /usr/local/share/fonts, though. |
| 00:37.16 | cafuego_ | They really shouldn't use "accelerated" when they mean "emulated". |
| 00:37.33 | Error_X | nailbiter: hmm.. it doesn't |
| 00:37.48 | g4lt | cafuego_ take it up witht ehpeople that do the PCI database in the kernel ;P |
| 00:38.02 | sussudio | !do the PCI database |
| 00:38.10 | nailbiter | Error_X: it doesn't? there's no x-ttcidfont-conf.d directory? |
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| 00:38.15 | cafuego_ | WinSB |
| 00:38.35 | Error_X | nailbiter: not in /usr/local/share/fonts |
| 00:38.37 | g4lt | LoseSB |
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| 00:38.47 | g4lt | !lose sb |
| 00:38.48 | dpkg | sb: You Lose. |
| 00:39.18 | dohma | hi, anyone know how i can install php 4.38 with sockets enabled?? |
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| 00:39.28 | simonrvn | !test |
| 00:39.29 | dpkg | No, simonrvn, you're not online any more. |
| 00:39.44 | simonrvn | laggy on my end, but ok i guess |
| 00:39.46 | nailbiter | Error_X: what do you mean? /etc/fonts/fonts.conf contains the /usr/local/share/fonts path. that causes fontconfig applications (like Qt and GTK2) to look there when starting up. |
| 00:40.15 | greycat | !be font barbie |
| 00:40.22 | Error_X | shall the /usr/local/share/fonts be empty+ |
| 00:40.27 | Error_X | ? |
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| 00:40.49 | Error_X | because its empty |
| 00:41.02 | nailbiter | Error_X: that's because there are no user-installed fonts there yet! |
| 00:41.36 | greycat | nailbiter: I'm going to complain to my bank that my new account has no money in it yet!! |
| 00:41.39 | Error_X | ah.. now i understand... so its just to copy my downloaded fonts over there? |
| 00:41.46 | g4lt | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:42.16 | nailbiter | Error_X: yes, that is correct. |
| 00:42.20 | Error_X | k := |
| 00:42.23 | Error_X | :=) |
| 00:42.43 | greycat | a man with two noses. |
| 00:42.56 | g4lt | or an elephantine one.... |
| 00:43.04 | Error_X | hehe |
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| 00:43.40 | Lutty | Could someone help me make a "usable screen configuration" on a new Deb 3.0 install? |
| 00:43.49 | greycat | Lutty: /msg dpkg set up x |
| 00:44.00 | Error_X | and by the way; how do i set my clock from a time server? |
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| 00:44.06 | greycat | Error_X: rdate or ntpdate |
| 00:44.13 | Error_X | k |
| 00:44.30 | greycat | "apt-get install ntpdate && ntpdate pool.ntp.org" would probably work |
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| 00:45.28 | rvf | can anyone tell me how to fix this gnome-session error: Cannot open font file for font Bitstream Vera Sans 10 |
| 00:45.44 | nailbiter | rvf: install the font. it's in the "ttf-bitstream-vera" package. |
| 00:45.53 | rvf | I have ttf-bitstream-vera installed |
| 00:45.54 | greycat | I didn't realize today was Font Day. |
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| 00:46.14 | greycat | nailbiter: you didn't stay away long enough |
| 00:46.22 | nailbiter | rvf: can you do a 'fc-list'? does "Vera" show up in there? |
| 00:46.32 | nailbiter | greycat: :-\ |
| 00:46.33 | Segers_J | apt-get dist-upgrade started, wish me luck. |
| 00:46.45 | greycat | !bless Segers_J |
| 00:46.46 | dpkg | O $DEITY, bless your child Segers_J, who is about to do something stupid and needs all the help you can give. Amen. |
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| 00:46.56 | yarjar | good luck. |
| 00:47.20 | rvf | nailbiter: yes, 10 of them |
| 00:47.26 | yarjar | Segers_J: What are you upgrading to? |
| 00:47.36 | rvf | mono, oblique, roman, bold, etc. |
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| 00:47.42 | nailbiter | rvf: cool. are you starting gnome 1.x up? or gnome 2? |
| 00:47.52 | Segers_J | yarjar: just to sarge. |
| 00:47.53 | rvf | sarges gnome2 |
| 00:47.59 | yarjar | Segers_J: ah. |
| 00:48.14 | figfig | when I run dh-make-perl --install -cpan IO:All I get "dpkg: error processing /home/jim/nll/libio-all-perl_0.3-1_all.deb (--install): |
| 00:48.14 | figfig | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:48.33 | nailbiter | rvf: try running 'gnome-font-properties'. are you able to select 'Vera' from the font list? |
| 00:48.33 | kind | hi everybody |
| 00:48.36 | dohma | whas the command to bring up the installation menu again?? like when you first install it prompt you to install packages?? how do i bring that up again? |
| 00:48.44 | greycat | figfig: does that file exist? |
| 00:48.53 | kjoonlee | dohma: dselect? |
| 00:48.53 | nailbiter | dohma: php4 _is_ compiled with socket support. well, at least on sarge it is. |
| 00:49.00 | kjoonlee | dohma: tasksel? |
| 00:49.05 | figfig | greycat: I think it loaded something, but it seems to give this error then. |
| 00:49.13 | dohma | thx!! |
| 00:49.48 | dohma | NO not deselect. another GUI one.. anyone know the command i forgot |
| 00:49.49 | nailbiter | figfig: shouldn't that be '--build --install --cpan IO::All'? |
| 00:50.06 | nailbiter | dohma: aptitude? |
| 00:50.11 | rvf | nailbiter: yes, when I'm running blackbox. Gnome refuses to start from gnome-session. |
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| 00:51.05 | nailbiter | rvf: ok -- you're able to see Vera in the font list when running 'gnome-font-properties' from Blackbox? |
| 00:51.07 | koala_man | Could anyone tell me which dependencies Freevo has? My only debian system is an offline dvr-like box. |
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| 00:51.23 | rvf | nailbiter: yep |
| 00:51.48 | greycat | koala_man: it doesn't appear to be packaged in debian... |
| 00:52.26 | nailbiter | rvf: strange. is that 'cannot open font file for Bitstream Vera' the last message in your .xsession-errors file? |
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| 00:53.07 | koala_man | greycat: bah. well, if you bother, there's an apt-source thing listed on http://freevo.sourceforge.net/install.html#Download |
| 00:53.08 | paquin | Hello folks! I just upgraded bochs 2.1.1-8 but after starting simulation it wait for gdb forever (and no stop is possible). Any idea? tia. |
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| 00:53.15 | figfig | nailbiter: thank you! That worked. |
| 00:53.19 | rking | in this page: http://kudos.goldenware.com/s/The_Hertz_Group/6.html , the poster writes, "thus: c^12=2^(1/12)"... I'm not clear why it isn't "c^12=2"... because if you divide both sides of the previous equation ("A*c^12=2A") by "A"... i'm puzzled |
| 00:53.25 | nailbiter | figfig: cool. |
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| 00:53.42 | rvf | nailbiter: no, that's the error printed to the console 'Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library' is the last thing in .xsession-errors |
| 00:54.23 | tempo | hi |
| 00:54.55 | greycat | rking: #math |
| 00:54.58 | tempo | hi can anyone recommand an online application for timesheets and invoices for consultants? |
| 00:55.01 | dohma | anyone know how to install the latest SNMP. using apt-get? cuz i can't find it using apt-cache search snmp |
| 00:55.07 | sollust | hello all...what is the command that debian installer uses to check the surface of disks before partitioning? |
| 00:55.07 | rking | greycat: thanks. =) |
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| 00:55.19 | shorty114 | dpkg help |
| 00:55.24 | huey | why is that a vcd mpg can take 750 mb on the hard drive, but can fit on a 650 mb cd? |
| 00:55.36 | nailbiter | rvf: you can probably ignore that warning. any other errors of note in your ~/.xsession-errors? it doesn't seem as if the missing font was a fatal error, mainly because your font-properties applet managed to start and find it .. |
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| 00:55.57 | sollust | huey: disc space allocation? |
| 00:55.58 | koala_man | huey: it's burnt without error correction code and such |
| 00:56.00 | blackhawk | can somebody tell me how to install new kernel? |
| 00:56.14 | greycat | blackhawk: apt-cache search kernel-image |
| 00:56.34 | huey | koala_man: so error correction code for a 650 mb file is 100 mb? wow |
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| 00:57.33 | rvf | nailbiter: hmm... was trying this as root - nothing of note there, but as a user I get 'RenderBadPicture (invalid Picture parameter)' from gnome-session |
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| 00:58.13 | rvf | nailbiter: also get things like 'Warning: font renderer for ".bdf.gz" already registered at priority 0' |
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| 00:58.36 | blackhawk | somebody got a URL to kernel howto? |
| 00:58.44 | g4lt | ibiblio.org |
| 00:58.47 | blackhawk | i need a new kernel. |
| 00:58.53 | greycat | blackhawk: tldp.org |
| 00:59.08 | g4lt | greycat neener neener |
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| 00:59.22 | nailbiter | rvf: the first one probably comes from a missing icon file; the second is probably harmless .. |
| 00:59.23 | xenoduck | Compiling a customer kernel for debian: http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html |
| 00:59.46 | g4lt | xenoduck as opposed to a wholesale kernel? ;P |
| 00:59.53 | rvf | nailbiter: ok, how about 'Gnome-Message: gnome_execute_async_with_env_fds: returning -1'? |
| 00:59.58 | xenoduck | s/er//g; |
| 01:00.02 | scarynetworkguy | g4lt: no as opposed to a vendor kernel |
| 01:00.13 | nailbiter | rvf: can also be ignored. do you see any _fatal_ errors? |
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| 01:00.38 | majelix | Is there a way to work around grub not reading the stage1 file? |
| 01:01.01 | rvf | nailbiter: nother other than those. The RenderBadPicture *seems* fatal. Here's the full text: |
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| 01:01.11 | rvf | The program 'gnome-session' received an X Window System error. |
| 01:01.19 | rvf | This probably reflects a bug in the program. |
| 01:01.30 | rvf | The error was 'RenderBadPicture (invalid Picture parameter)'. |
| 01:01.41 | rvf | that the last output of X |
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| 01:02.03 | rvf | and .xsession-errors (for regular user) |
| 01:02.34 | g4lt | where the HELL is debhelper?! |
| 01:02.54 | greycat | g4lt: he's here; rvf must have slipped just under the threshold |
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| 01:03.30 | rvf | sorry, didn't mean to mess up your superiority party |
| 01:04.06 | rvf | I didn't think that was enough pasting to be rude - if it was I apologize. |
| 01:04.11 | g4lt | rvf you did when you entered. it's hard to feel good about being superior to the likes of you.... |
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| 01:04.27 | FlyByte | can someone here tell me what files i need to install to setup nvidia drivers using kerne 2.6.7 |
| 01:05.03 | rvf | yeah, how dare I ask a question... |
| 01:05.24 | El_Pollo | FlyByte: nvidia-kernel-source, read the README |
| 01:05.43 | scarynetworkguy | FlyByte: apt-get install nvidia-kernel-source nvida-glx wget read the readme |
| 01:05.46 | FlyByte | thanks , is that a .deb file? |
| 01:05.49 | thomas_adam | rvf: /msg dpkg enter |
| 01:05.59 | FlyByte | thanks scary |
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| 01:06.15 | scarynetworkguy | FlyByte: anytime |
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| 01:06.45 | scarynetworkguy | god it's good to be home and have bandwidth |
| 01:06.46 | WootImRoot | flybyte: Also, you should know that nvidia-kernel-source is only on non-free. It won't be found otherwise |
| 01:06.51 | g4lt | thomas_adam he pasted that screed |
| 01:07.09 | Nataly | There is someone here that speak spanish and can help me? |
| 01:07.13 | FlyByte | oki thanks gonna see what i can do here |
| 01:07.15 | g4lt | !spanish |
| 01:07.15 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish speakers: please go to #debian-es, you will get a lot more help there. |
| 01:07.16 | greycat | !spanish |
| 01:07.24 | g4lt | greycat neener neener again ;P |
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| 01:10.57 | dabreegster | Hey, I was wondering how I would create a vt in the inittab that's "hidden". Like, I don't want Alt+Arrow keys to go to it. How do I do that? |
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| 01:12.02 | WootImRoot | dabreegster: ... I'm curious. Why would you want to 'hide' a vt? |
| 01:12.41 | dabreegster | WootImRoot: I'm trying to create a little "vt manager" with openvt. it's just a project to see what I can do. |
| 01:13.14 | dabreegster | WootImRoot: and having an extra vt open that's running my vt manager is very messy |
| 01:13.55 | dabreegster | WootImRoot: I know there are loads of tty's in /dev, I just don't know which to use for it to be hidden |
| 01:13.56 | thomas_adam | ~test |
| 01:13.58 | apt | Passed |
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| 01:14.27 | g4lt | dabreegster try making it a pty instead of a tty |
| 01:14.32 | FlyByte | i musta installed nvidia real strong, it gives the nvidia logo twice on boot up |
| 01:14.34 | dabreegster | g4lt: ok, thanks |
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| 01:15.06 | kjm | FlyByte: did you update the driver without removing the old one? |
| 01:15.23 | FlyByte | no i just installed for 2.7 |
| 01:15.27 | sanitarium | i fixed my problems with video |
| 01:15.43 | FlyByte | what should i remove? |
| 01:15.44 | sanitarium | i have kde 3.2 installed i added gnome |
| 01:15.56 | sanitarium | but it wouldnt let me in? |
| 01:15.58 | kjm | apt-get remove nvidia- ?? Not exactly sure....... |
| 01:16.12 | kjm | FlyByte: read the documentation on www.nvidia.com |
| 01:16.16 | FlyByte | its ok, so long as its gonna work , |
| 01:16.20 | sanitarium | any idea have i tell if all gnome installed |
| 01:16.35 | FlyByte | naw i tried reading that stuff a bunchya times and only get real messed up |
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| 01:16.41 | sanitarium | are what im missing so i can fix it |
| 01:17.02 | sanitarium | or even way to tell what error is |
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| 01:17.46 | FlyByte | maybe one day they'll come up with an even easier way to install nvidia |
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| 01:19.05 | majelix | I'm trying to follow http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=251905 to set up software raid with new sarge installer, but grub refues to read stage1 |
| 01:19.07 | majelix | Anything I can do? |
| 01:19.26 | rvf | sanitarium: 'update-alternatives --config x-session-manager' will allow you to switch between gnome and kde - if it's there, then at least the base of gnome is installed. |
| 01:19.34 | El_Pollo | FlyByte: there's really nothing to it.. |
| 01:19.38 | El_Pollo | where did you have a problem? |
| 01:19.38 | dbeal | what's the difference between SQL 7.0 and the latest MySQL? |
| 01:19.54 | greycat | dbeal: SQL is a language, and has no version numbers |
| 01:20.02 | greycat | dbeal: it may have a year associated with it, however. |
| 01:20.08 | sanitarium | rvf will try it |
| 01:20.10 | El_Pollo | what's "SQL 7.0"? |
| 01:20.11 | FlyByte | El_pollo brb on phone |
| 01:20.12 | Nurbs | FlyByte: not using packages is somewhat easier IMO, but of course, you're ignoring the packaging system with that :) |
| 01:20.18 | dbeal | gce: `mysqladmin version' reports protocol version 10 |
| 01:20.37 | greycat | dbeal: in any case, #mysql would be a better place to ask |
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| 01:20.47 | El_Pollo | Nurbs: I disagree (granted nvidia's pretty installer is pretty bulletproof), 'somewhat' - maybe |
| 01:21.04 | dbeal | gc, yeah, except that channel is dead 9/10 units of time |
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| 01:21.14 | Nurbs | El_Pollo: it's hard to disagree when you want or need a newer version, though :) |
| 01:21.15 | spoopin | /msg/dpkg d-i |
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| 01:21.19 | dbeal | gc, just assuming..thanks for the info |
| 01:21.23 | spoopin | whoops :) |
| 01:21.29 | paquin | /usr/share/bochs/BIOS-bochs-latest (missing) |
| 01:21.39 | El_Pollo | Nurbs: I can't say I track nvidia's releases, how far are they offset from the debian packages? |
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| 01:22.28 | El_Pollo | building say nvidia-kernel-common/glx/etc from source is a bit harder than just building the kernel from source, that's for sure, so if those packages aren't up to the right version you might be in for a bit of a challenge, granted |
| 01:22.31 | Nurbs | El_Pollo: sufficient on average. currently up-to-date :) |
| 01:22.46 | Nurbs | El_Pollo: in sid, of course |
| 01:22.54 | El_Pollo | of course |
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| 01:24.22 | FlyByte | El_Pollo i installed 4 .deb packages nvidia-glx nvidia kernel2.6.7.1-386 nvidia kernel-common and kernel-headers2.6.7-1 |
| 01:24.34 | FlyByte | should i remove some do ya think? |
| 01:24.50 | El_Pollo | FlyByte: where did you get nvidia-kernel-2.6.7-386? |
| 01:24.53 | sanitarium | rvf : did that .. log in shows start screen lil debian gnu/linux and just sits there |
| 01:24.57 | El_Pollo | and what's the problem? |
| 01:25.08 | FlyByte | i got it from rdonald site |
| 01:25.21 | FlyByte | i get 2 nvidia logos during boot up |
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| 01:26.31 | rvf | sanitarium: so you saw gnome-session in the list of update-alternatives? |
| 01:26.34 | El_Pollo | bah.. prebuilt non-standard binaries.. |
| 01:26.44 | El_Pollo | FlyByte: and this is a problem? |
| 01:27.08 | sanitarium | rvf: yes and i picked it logged out and in and shows start screen lil debian gnu/linux and just sits there |
| 01:27.18 | sanitarium | mouse works |
| 01:27.25 | FlyByte | doesnt really matter too much but if i could do it right i would |
| 01:27.38 | sanitarium | but doesnt finish loading desktop |
| 01:27.40 | rvf | sanitarium: did you try to log back in? |
| 01:27.50 | sanitarium | yes same thing |
| 01:28.02 | sanitarium | even restart pc same |
| 01:28.07 | sanitarium | weird hey |
| 01:28.34 | sanitarium | it asked me if i wanted to update from old one i said yes and that was that lol |
| 01:29.01 | rvf | sanitarium: are you running sarge, woody, sid? |
| 01:29.06 | sanitarium | sarge |
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| 01:29.47 | sanitarium | should i try remove all packages of gnome and reinstall |
| 01:29.52 | rvf | sanitarium: heh, don't know if I can be much help - currently having gnome problems with sarge too, although mine doesn't even make it that far. |
| 01:30.01 | t-jack | Uranos spreads a fuschia blanket over Gaia and tucks her in for the night... |
| 01:30.02 | sanitarium | cool |
| 01:30.08 | sanitarium | thought was just me? |
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| 01:30.14 | sanitarium | being unlucky |
| 01:30.30 | sanitarium | well then any ideas |
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| 01:30.55 | rvf | nope, not yet. sorry. |
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| 01:31.25 | sanitarium | rvf: what gui should i use if i dont wanna use kde? |
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| 01:31.27 | majelix | on sarge: is there a good place to go if to get a workaround for grub whining about software raid? |
| 01:31.37 | t-jack | Purdy pink clouds in Des oines tonight. |
| 01:31.42 | toubsu | do you have to restart cron after making changes to crontab? |