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| 00:01.47 | bono | Question: Could you guys help me on this? XFree is constantly eating up CPU time and making HD access through kjournald ('top' shows that they both eat up cpu and mem). Where should I start looking? Anyone? |
| 00:02.18 | mwilson | What in the world makes you think XFree is hitting the HD? |
| 00:02.26 | xsdg | bono: sounds like your HDD has DMA turned off |
| 00:02.30 | xsdg | (hdd/controller) |
| 00:02.43 | bono | mwilson: maybe im guessing wrong |
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| 00:02.49 | bono | xsdg: how do i check that? |
| 00:02.59 | xsdg | bono: hdparm -i /dev/<yourharddrive> |
| 00:04.33 | bono | xsdg: DMA modes: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 |
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| 00:04.44 | xsdg | bono: do any of them have a star? |
| 00:04.49 | bono | xsdg: UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 *udma2 |
| 00:04.53 | PoltheMol | humz peterS, he wont take it :( |
| 00:05.07 | peterS | PoltheMol: no? it should. what did you put in there? |
| 00:05.12 | bono | xsdg: yes, udma2... that's a good thing, right? :-) |
| 00:05.35 | bono | Hmmm... seems like postfix was the problem... stopped the process and the memory accesses are gone... |
| 00:05.38 | PoltheMol | owh hang on ;) he does run it, just gives an error ^^ sorry, my bad ;) |
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| 00:05.55 | xsdg | bono: if DMA is on, I dunno |
| 00:06.00 | peterS | PoltheMol: well, I'm leaving now for a few hours, so if you continue to have problems, don't ask *me* (: |
| 00:06.07 | PoltheMol | hehe |
| 00:06.13 | PoltheMol | bwah this one i can solve ;) |
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| 00:06.26 | PoltheMol | else i'm just gonne slap that pc for a few hours ^^ |
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| 00:06.50 | bono | Q: what is the simplest/most used mail relay agent out there? postfix? exim? |
| 00:06.52 | peterS | PoltheMol: have fun.. (: |
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| 00:07.03 | peterS | bono: probably exim, because it's the default one debian installs |
| 00:07.12 | mwilson | You mean Mail Transfer Agent? |
| 00:07.18 | Serbitar | bono: exim is great :) |
| 00:07.21 | bono | peterS: thanks |
| 00:07.21 | craftybones | hello, what is a good how to on installing and configuring my sound card? |
| 00:07.25 | peterS | bono: that's the most used one, I mean. the simplest is something like nullmailer or ssmtp, which don't have much functionality |
| 00:07.25 | bono | mwilson: yes, thats what i meant :-) |
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| 00:07.46 | bono | peterS: i guess the most used one is the one im looking for... |
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| 00:09.08 | PoltheMol | peterS up and running ;) thnx again ^^ |
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| 00:09.18 | br | someone can say about odonto-linux package? |
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| 00:11.05 | br | I'm med student, so I was looking for medical softwares... like odonto-linux. But I'm going crazy, cause documentation is too poor :\ |
| 00:13.14 | Evaso | br: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-med/ |
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| 00:15.55 | samuel | is it ok to make /var/lib/php4 owned by www-data? |
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| 00:18.03 | Ox0F0-0FF | anyone tried to use COM objects under linux ? |
| 00:18.14 | Ox0F0-0FF | i mean |
| 00:18.21 | Ox0F0-0FF | is there a lib to use them ? |
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| 00:20.52 | Usiu | Ox0F0-0FF: what's COM ? |
| 00:20.56 | Mabus | dpkg: tell sid to stop playing around and get his libgktsourceview together, OK ? |
| 00:21.00 | Mabus | bah, gtk |
| 00:21.19 | Ox0F0-0FF | Component Object Model |
| 00:21.38 | Ox0F0-0FF | it's used in losedows |
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| 00:21.59 | Usiu | Ox0F0-0FF: You can use bonobo objects |
| 00:22.00 | mwilson | What might "losedows" be? |
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| 00:22.21 | Ox0F0-0FF | mwilson: lose != ? |
| 00:22.26 | thomas_adam | loosedows? |
| 00:22.43 | thomas_adam | Ah, so many variants. |
| 00:22.52 | mwilson | Ox0F0-0FF: I'm sorry, I don't speak Moron, you'll have to translate. |
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| 00:23.48 | thomas_adam | unless it's some form of "joke" windows, losedows? |
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| 00:24.05 | Ox0F0-0FF | :P |
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| 00:24.38 | Ox0F0-0FF | the strange crap they dare to call operating system where it's not even able to properly operate |
| 00:24.39 | Masta_G | hi |
| 00:24.46 | Ox0F0-0FF | aka windows |
| 00:25.13 | mwilson | Ox0F0-0FF: Ah... in other words, you have no idea what you're talking about. |
| 00:25.13 | craftybones | has anyone got any experience working with onboard sound cards? |
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| 00:25.24 | samlander | what is the typical location mysql-server dumps it's tables? |
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| 00:26.09 | Usiu | craftybones: ? |
| 00:26.19 | sussudio | samlander: ever heard of the term 'rtfm'? |
| 00:26.52 | Masta_G | does anybody know how I can read the content of $HOME out of a c++ proggi? |
| 00:27.07 | sussudio | Masta_G: what? |
| 00:27.14 | Masta_G | found nothing with google |
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| 00:27.18 | samlander | sussudio: ever heard the term, dont assume someone is a fucking noob? diferent distro's have different locations.. |
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| 00:28.01 | Usiu | Masta_G: :) |
| 00:28.11 | justin | samlander: if you weren't a "noob" you would have "looked" and answered your own question. |
| 00:28.15 | Masta_G | I have a C++ programm and I don't know how it can read the content of $HOME |
| 00:28.27 | sussudio | samlander: if you don't want to be treated like a fucking noob, don't act like one. man mysql will give you the 'fucking' answer. |
| 00:28.31 | samlander | justin: maybe im just being lazy ;) |
| 00:28.37 | aetas | Masta_G: surely #c++ is a better place to ask that question? |
| 00:28.47 | sussudio | !lazy |
| 00:28.47 | dpkg | Well, we don't service lazy people, sorry. |
| 00:28.51 | Usiu | Masta_G: man getenv |
| 00:28.57 | Masta_G | oki thx |
| 00:29.22 | Masta_G | aetas: oh sry, I'm a litte bit to tired.. ;) |
| 00:29.30 | samlander | /var/lib/mysql |
| 00:29.41 | deadcat | i seem to get amixer to do its work. i guess setmixer and rexima doesnt work with alsa. then what the hell was i using lately? (= |
| 00:29.43 | aetas | Masta_G: I don't care myself, but other people will get on your case about it :P |
| 00:30.03 | samlander | sussudio: i hate rtfm. |
| 00:30.52 | samlander | sussudio: point was, it was faster for me to come in here and ask, then investigate for myself.. |
| 00:31.04 | Masta_G | cu & thx ;) |
| 00:31.14 | samlander | sussudio: if it were as simple as doing a whereis on mysql, i'd be even quicker ;) |
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| 00:31.55 | samlander | whatever... someone shit in everyone's cornflakes today.. normally yall arent so harsh |
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| 00:32.37 | sussudio | /var/lib/mysql location of database files |
| 00:32.39 | craftybones | usiu: I need help trying to figure out how to install/configure my onboard soundcard for debian |
| 00:32.42 | sussudio | like that was so hard to do. |
| 00:33.17 | craftybones | usiu: I have a k7vta3 motherboard which has an onboard soundblaster live 5.1 soundcard. debian did not detect it during installation |
| 00:33.19 | Usiu | craftybones: tried alsa ? |
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| 00:33.44 | sussudio | craftybones: it's probably the crappy one without the dsp, then. |
| 00:33.45 | esop | !blame war |
| 00:33.47 | craftybones | usiu: i am a n00b. I am not sure how to go about things. |
| 00:34.00 | craftybones | sussudio: probably. I have no clue. |
| 00:34.13 | sussudio | craftybones: it's not a real sblive. |
| 00:34.20 | craftybones | sussudio: I dont care. |
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| 00:34.47 | craftybones | usiu or sussudio: if you can just point me to a link on how to configure/detect my soundcard, I'll be thankful |
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| 00:34.51 | cafuego | craftybones: it's half-supported by alsa. Get alsa. |
| 00:34.52 | Usiu | craftybones: check your kernel with uname -a |
| 00:34.53 | Usiu | craftybones: apt-cache search alsa-modules |
| 00:35.10 | craftybones | usiu" 2.4.26 |
| 00:35.36 | craftybones | usiu: I get a list |
| 00:35.54 | craftybones | usiu: should I choose betwen the 686 or the k7? |
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| 00:37.23 | grendel | does anyone knows how to get the filename without the extension in bash ? |
| 00:37.25 | Usiu | craftybones: prv |
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| 00:37.26 | Usiu | craftybones: k7 |
| 00:37.26 | Usiu | ;( |
| 00:37.35 | cafuego | grendel: basename |
| 00:37.52 | cafuego | actually, no |
| 00:38.23 | grendel | cafuego, no ? |
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| 00:38.48 | grendel | nop it returns all the filename with extension |
| 00:39.41 | convert | How do I set up Xdmcp for remote login? |
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| 00:40.35 | grendel | cafuego, yep it works with basename |
| 00:40.45 | grendel | cafuego, read the man... I know how now.. thanks. |
| 00:40.45 | grendel | :D |
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| 00:41.52 | Mutalisk | hello folk |
| 00:41.55 | Mutalisk | folks |
| 00:42.33 | Mutalisk | how can i format my system now that has unix to a fresh install of debian |
| 00:42.50 | deadcat | Mutalisk: start the isntaller it will do it for ya |
| 00:43.01 | Mutalisk | ok thanks i appreciate it |
| 00:43.11 | Mutalisk | I will stick around if I have any other questions, is that fine? |
| 00:43.19 | deadcat | Mutalisk: sure. |
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| 00:44.00 | deadcat | Mutalisk: most people here like me are just loitering around |
| 00:44.26 | grendel | cafuego, found a better way: NEWNAME="$1/${2%.JPG}" |
| 00:45.17 | Mutalisk | deadcat: oh! lol - is this it-http://ftp.esat.net/pub/linux/debian-cd/3.0_r1/i386/ |
| 00:45.23 | Mutalisk | http://ftp.esat.net/pub/linux/debian-cd/3.0_r1/i386/ |
| 00:45.34 | deadcat | !tell Mutalisk about d-i |
| 00:45.52 | deadcat | Mutalisk: use that. |
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| 00:46.46 | Mutalisk | http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/i386/current/ |
| 00:46.46 | Mutalisk | ? |
| 00:46.55 | Mutalisk | I dont want a testing version |
| 00:47.20 | deadcat | Mutalisk: you can use stable/testing/unstable with that installer. |
| 00:47.26 | _rene_ | deadcat: nope |
| 00:47.35 | deadcat | Mutalisk: else use the woody installer. its my fav as well (= |
| 00:47.38 | _rene_ | deadcat: he can't install woody with it |
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| 00:48.01 | deadcat | _rene_: that blows. i was helping someone yesterday and we saw stable/testing/unstable |
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| 00:48.21 | gothtec | "Uptime 17.192 days (since Thu Jul 29 21:46:03 2004)" <-- How does nmap find that information? I want to prevent that, if possible, on one of my computers. |
| 00:48.37 | deadcat | (= |
| 00:48.46 | _rene_ | deadcat: this is because this sw is written to me *used* for the *next* stable |
| 00:49.02 | _rene_ | deadcat: and it then *probably* will work for etch and sid, too then |
| 00:49.22 | _rene_ | deadcat: I doubt this with the big changes which will happen always... |
| 00:49.22 | deadcat | _rene_: thats misleading. |
| 00:49.26 | grendel | does anyone know how to get a substr from a variable in bash ? |
| 00:49.34 | _rene_ | deadcat: if someone uses beta software, live with it |
| 00:49.39 | deadcat | grendel: example? |
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| 00:50.18 | grendel | deadcat, I have this ina a variable "DSC00001" and I want to get only the "000001" |
| 00:50.27 | Evilpig | gothtec: according to the manpage it uses TCP timestamps |
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| 00:50.32 | grendel | deadcat, I think I found a way to do this |
| 00:50.40 | plugwash | !start a flamewar |
| 00:50.40 | dpkg | Finnish is better than Swedish |
| 00:51.00 | Evilpig | so setting /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_timestamps to 0 might take care of it |
| 00:51.02 | deadcat | grendel: cant you juse use cut? |
| 00:51.18 | grendel | deadcat, I'm not familiar with it... but let me read the man |
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| 00:51.50 | deadcat | grendel: cool. i think you're the first person who ask for help and go check man page instead of saying "how?" (= |
| 00:51.50 | n4cht | any xchat users here? |
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| 00:52.06 | cafuego | gothtec: either you have the time port open or it returns pings or somesuch; ping packets have a timestamp header, I think. |
| 00:52.20 | grendel | deadcat, hhehehe I have asked a lot on IRC... I know what I ahve to do |
| 00:52.23 | grendel | deadcat, :D |
| 00:52.33 | deadcat | grendel: you the man. (= |
| 00:52.41 | cafuego | grendel: awk would also work |
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| 00:52.54 | grendel | cafuego, yep checking on that too :D |
| 00:52.56 | grendel | deadcat, :D |
| 00:52.57 | comotion | Cheers guys, got a bit of a tricky question: I'm running a production woody system as a nis server (no shadowing), and I need to expire some passwords. Neither 'passwd -e $user' nor 'chage -E' affects the change. |
| 00:53.13 | cafuego | grendel: if you gunna read all the awk docs you'll still be reading tomorrow <heh> |
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| 00:53.14 | comotion | What can I do? |
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| 00:54.00 | grendel | cafuego, :S, I know...any ideas where I can find a way to do this faster ? |
| 00:54.11 | cafuego | grendel: Depends on what substring you need, eh? |
| 00:54.28 | grendel | I have this ina a variable "DSC00001" and I want to get only the "000001" |
| 00:54.35 | deadcat | grendel: if you have DDD001122 you can try echo ${VAR:offset:length} |
| 00:54.53 | grendel | deadcat, let me check on that. |
| 00:55.02 | cafuego | I'm pretty sure echo $file | awk '{ printf("%d", $1) }' would do it. |
| 00:55.14 | cafuego | just cast the bastard to int |
| 00:55.20 | justin | grendel: would you like the answer in x86, or mips asm? |
| 00:55.34 | grendel | justin, I'm on a x86 |
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| 00:55.50 | cafuego | except of course it doesn't. |
| 00:55.52 | cafuego | typical |
| 00:56.00 | deadcat | justin == Justin_ ? |
| 00:56.01 | gothtec | cafuego: i disabled the timeserver (tcp/37), but it can still catch the uptime... that server has a whole bunch of other services running, though, in addition to a few gameservers and whatnot. is there a way to get nmap to show exactly what is giving it that information? |
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| 00:56.21 | cafuego | grendel: All your vars are char-char-char-number ? |
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| 00:56.42 | justin | cafuego: DSC00001 are filenames from a digital camera |
| 00:56.50 | nailbiter | grendel: ( MYVAR=DSC00001; echo ${MYVAR#DSC} ) |
| 00:56.51 | grendel | cafuego, yep |
| 00:56.56 | Evilpig | gothtec: i answered that |
| 00:56.59 | mentor | gah. |
| 00:57.01 | cafuego | grendel: | sed s/[a-Z]//g |
| 00:57.11 | cafuego | grendel: That kills all characters |
| 00:57.20 | cafuego | but leaves the numbers |
| 00:57.37 | Serbitar | ugh. has anyone here ever build gcc as a cross compiler? |
| 00:57.38 | grendel | cafuego, that sound logic... let me check on that too |
| 00:57.44 | cafuego | justin: Where the filenames are from is irrelevent eh |
| 00:57.55 | gothtec | Evilpig: that's what it uses (tcp timestamps), not where it got them from.. i kinda need to know what service tossed that timestamp at nmap |
| 00:58.00 | nailbiter | comotion: i think you actually need a /etc/shadow file to store expiry information .. |
| 00:58.03 | justin | cafuego: what is relevent is that they are always going to be DSC...... :-) |
| 00:58.07 | dessaix|zz | in order for my sound drivers to work, do i need alsa ? |
| 00:58.20 | msson | I want to install the latest version of Gaim for security reasons, How would I install this? THe version I want is labelled as unstable, I know the risks, I've researched and haven't found out how to do this. |
| 00:58.24 | cafuego | justin: IF the script is supposed to work for just one camera... |
| 00:58.25 | comotion | nailbiter: but I can't (reasonably) use a shadow file with nis |
| 00:58.25 | deadcat | dessaix|zz: no. you can use oss if you want. |
| 00:58.37 | Evilpig | gothtec: setting /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_timestamps to 0 doesn't stop it? |
| 00:58.54 | dessaix|zz | deadcat: does oss already come with debian? (im new to debian) |
| 00:58.55 | deadcat | msson: are you using unstable? if so apt-get update && apt-get install gaim |
| 00:59.04 | deadcat | dessaix|zz: what kernel you using? |
| 00:59.08 | msson | deadcat, I'm using Debian stable |
| 00:59.12 | dessaix|zz | deadcat: 2.6 |
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| 00:59.16 | deadcat | msson: tough luck for you |
| 00:59.18 | NeoSadist | i would do an apt-get upgrade before the install gaim |
| 00:59.24 | nailbiter | comotion: can't you? i thought the GNU C library was capable of doing shadow NIS lookups .. |
| 00:59.28 | deadcat | dessaix|zz: you have alsa and oss i believe. |
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| 00:59.31 | mentor | cut would probably be best though. |
| 00:59.37 | msson | deadcat, There isn't a way to install unstable packages on stable Debian? |
| 00:59.48 | deadcat | mentor: cut is slow compare to ${} |
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| 00:59.53 | emzed | hi all |
| 00:59.56 | plugwash | msson sure there is |
| 00:59.57 | grendel | cafuego, sed worked great.. I'm using that... |
| 00:59.59 | plugwash | i've done it |
| 01:00.06 | cafuego | grendel: Also, you can leave that basename call out and just use sed to get the digits from the entire filename in one go. |
| 01:00.07 | msson | plugwash, How would I do it? |
| 01:00.08 | deadcat | msson: try apt-get.org or backports.org |
| 01:00.13 | mentor | deadcat: yes. ugh. shell. |
| 01:00.24 | grendel | cafuego, even thought all of the answers worked... but I think using sed is safer |
| 01:00.32 | cafuego | grendel: echo DSC00017.JPG | sed -ne 's/.*\([[:digit:]]*\)/\1/p' |
| 01:00.35 | deadcat | msson: if its a desktop i recommend upgrading to testing or unstable. but thats just me. |
| 01:00.37 | plugwash | edit /etc/apt/sources.list then apt-get update && apt-get install package then put sources.list back |
| 01:00.37 | grendel | cafuego, yep I'm passing it thru the pipe |
| 01:00.40 | plugwash | easy |
| 01:00.50 | emzed | when I run "dpkg -s <a_bad_package>", it tells me "Status: install ok not-installed", but I can't purge it ... how can I solve this problem ? |
| 01:00.53 | plugwash | note that there is some risk in doing it this way ;) |
| 01:00.55 | msson | deadcat, Yeah it's a Desktop |
| 01:01.06 | cafuego | grendel: That's nice and portable to other camera types too. |
| 01:01.15 | msson | deadcat, Should I reinstall using the Debian Unstable (sid I think it is)? |
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| 01:01.21 | grendel | cafuego, yep it is :D |
| 01:01.25 | mentor | emzed: That depends on why you can't uninstall it. |
| 01:01.35 | gothtec | Evilpig: i suppose that disables timestamps for ALL services and stuff.. worked quite well, in fact. thanks :) |
| 01:01.37 | plugwash | msson no need to reinstall to upgrade |
| 01:01.39 | emzed | mentor: it just tells me it's not installed |
| 01:01.39 | cafuego | except, mentor, it doesn't work. |
| 01:01.49 | plugwash | just edit /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 01:01.49 | msson | plugwash, Well I might try it out a new computer |
| 01:01.51 | deadcat | grendel: are you writing a script to rename your cam images? i renames mine to date_canonS230_imgxxxx.jpg |
| 01:02.03 | plugwash | then apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 01:02.05 | Evilpig | gothtec: np, just a lucky guess ;-) |
| 01:02.07 | deadcat | msson: no. |
| 01:02.10 | mentor | emzed: Perhaps it's not installed then? |
| 01:02.17 | deadcat | !tell msson about stable->testing |
| 01:02.23 | mentor | oh hmm. |
| 01:02.28 | nailbiter | emzed: it means it's flagged for installation, but not actually installed yet. just do "echo <packagename> purge | dpkg --set-selection" if you want to get rid of that. |
| 01:02.36 | plugwash | !stable->testing |
| 01:02.40 | emzed | mentor: hmm, look at the status of the package ... it's "a bit" installed, no ? |
| 01:02.48 | gothtec | Evilpig: now nmap suddenly can't even figure out what OS it is. smells like better security to me :) |
| 01:02.57 | grendel | deadcat, yep.. A friend made a program for making transparent sprits sprites out of a two picture pefect mask |
| 01:02.59 | deadcat | msson: just that simple. remember. its hard to go back to stable once you upgrade (= |
| 01:03.01 | emzed | nailbiter: oh, ok, thanks for the explanation ;) |
| 01:03.05 | geoaxis | hi there |
| 01:03.13 | geoaxis | i have a dvd-rom/cd-rw device |
| 01:03.15 | deadcat | grendel: sounds nice |
| 01:03.19 | cafuego | mentor: it returns n empty string |
| 01:03.21 | geoaxis | but i dont have a /dev/dvd entry |
| 01:03.22 | grendel | deadcat, and the program works great... but I have tons of pictures... so I need a sacript to do them all at once |
| 01:03.24 | Evilpig | gothtec: yay! we both learned something then ;-) |
| 01:03.27 | geoaxis | can any one help me wat to do |
| 01:03.29 | deadcat | geoaxis: sym link it |
| 01:03.29 | msson | deadcat, That said testing doesn't get security upgrades, what do they mean? |
| 01:03.34 | grendel | deadcat, yeah it is... my friend is a genius. |
| 01:03.43 | cafuego | 's/[a-Z\.-]//g' works though |
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| 01:03.53 | plugwash | with debian you basically have 3 choices |
| 01:03.54 | geoaxis | deadcat so ln -d |
| 01:03.57 | blunt_ | I'm using the 2.4.18-bf24 kernel and tryin to get my usb mouse working in x but can't..I know the mouse is fine cause it works fine on my 2.4.24-1 using /dev/psaux and the ps2 proto..When I configure x on the other machine the same way the mouse will not work...Any suggestions? |
| 01:04.03 | geoaxis | how do u symlink devices |
| 01:04.06 | cafuego | msson: They're wrong, as of last week it does. |
| 01:04.14 | plugwash | hehe |
| 01:04.14 | deadcat | msson: what that ment. testing only get updates when the pkg from unstable is tested the mvoe to testing |
| 01:04.24 | deadcat | geoaxis: ln -s |
| 01:04.31 | msson | deadcat, Ah, ok thanks :) |
| 01:04.35 | Serbitar | blunt_: update teh kernel.. the bf kernels dont have usb mouse support.. or atleast not _that_ one |
| 01:04.41 | deadcat | grendel: good to have a genius friend. (= |
| 01:05.10 | deadcat | msson: if you use unstable you can pretty much latest and greatest. just becareful when upgrading. sometimes pkg break and BAM. (= |
| 01:05.14 | grendel | deadcat, hehehe yes it is... :D |
| 01:05.18 | blunt_ | Can I just install usb modules cause no other kernel will work on this machine due not having _any_ ps2 ports...Keyboard and mouse are both usb |
| 01:05.30 | _rene_ | cafuego: there's still security-updates unfixed in testing |
| 01:05.35 | comotion | nailbiter: capable, but tricky and pointless AFAIK; then again if there's no other way for it.. There's no pam module I could use? |
| 01:05.36 | blunt_ | I have tried 3 different kernels |
| 01:05.37 | ugly | blunt_: is the mousedev module loaded? |
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| 01:05.41 | mentor | gah. |
| 01:05.42 | mechan0r | why do both /dev/sr0 and /dev/scd0 work for my usb cd |
| 01:05.43 | msson | deadcat, after 'BAM' is it pretty easy to fix sometimes? lol |
| 01:05.44 | _rene_ | s/unfixed/missing/ |
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| 01:05.48 | mechan0r | drive |
| 01:05.58 | blunt_ | ugly, Not sure but will go load it if it is now |
| 01:06.06 | ugly | blunt_: you can check with 'lsmod' |
| 01:06.07 | cafuego | _rene_: The security.debian.org testing/updates repositories are active. |
| 01:06.10 | Nurbs | hmm/msg dpkg ur |
| 01:06.13 | Nurbs | arghs |
| 01:06.25 | deadcat | msson: sometimes (=.. someitmes just wait few days |
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| 01:06.35 | msson | deadcat, lol ok |
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| 01:06.49 | ugly | blunt_: use /dev/input/mice with ImPS/2 protocol in XF86Config-4 as well (if it's an usb intellimouse) |
| 01:06.54 | blunt_ | No but there is a usbmouse and it says unused |
| 01:06.54 | nailbiter | comotion: yes, it seems rather pointless. :) but i can't think of any other way of exporting expiry information over NIS. the 'pam_unix' module should already check for account expiry; i'm just not sure if it checks the /etc/shadow file directly or does a NIS lookup if needed .. |
| 01:07.00 | msson | deadcat, I switched from Gentoo, so this might take a while to get used to |
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| 01:07.22 | ugly | blunt_: modprobe mousedev then - if it works, add it to the /etc/modules file |
| 01:07.26 | deadcat | msson: not really. it take few sec to isntall gaim on debian. (= hwo long does taht take on gentoo? heheh |
| 01:07.28 | blunt_ | k |
| 01:07.31 | blunt_ | Thanks man |
| 01:07.40 | blunt_ | brb gonna get back over to it |
| 01:07.44 | cafuego | mechan0r: Coz they both provide nearly the same ioctls for the device. |
| 01:07.54 | msson | deadcat, about 10 minutes :[ |
| 01:08.03 | cafuego | mechan0r: Correction, they *are* the same. |
| 01:08.17 | comotion | nailbiter: well, do you or anyone else here know of a way of doing password expiry through some nis tools? |
| 01:08.44 | deadcat | msson: and thats a fast machine? |
| 01:08.57 | blunt_ | Ugly, Thanks a load man worked like a glove |
| 01:08.59 | blunt_ | :) |
| 01:09.07 | msson | deadcat, Maybe it's around 5 or 7, Yes I guess pretty fast Intel Celeron 2.7Ghz with 512Mb ram |
| 01:09.10 | ugly | good |
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| 01:09.21 | mentor | Does chage -E need a parameter? |
| 01:09.25 | cafuego | Aiyee, compiling on a celeron? |
| 01:09.31 | mechan0r | cafuego, I though it was because I had some extra mods |
| 01:09.43 | mechan0r | that's nothing |
| 01:09.43 | msson | cafuego, Yes :( |
| 01:09.43 | cafuego | mechan0r: No, sr and scd are identical. |
| 01:10.02 | Boreas | how does one edit a pdf? Without having the original format? |
| 01:10.06 | mechan0r | compiling on a .233MMX is hell |
| 01:10.09 | cafuego | Boreas: Not, generally. |
| 01:10.34 | Serbitar | mechan0r: but on a 100 P233MMXes its not ;) |
| 01:10.36 | mentor | mechan0r: .233? |
| 01:10.37 | initech | Boreas: you can't |
| 01:10.54 | mechan0r | .233Ghz |
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| 01:10.55 | initech | mechan0r: try on a 133 |
| 01:10.58 | cafuego | initech: Yes, you can. But it's expensive. |
| 01:11.06 | scarynetworkguy | mentor: that's one slow machine. |
| 01:11.17 | Boreas | nothing corresponding to "use as form" or some such thing on a Mac? |
| 01:11.18 | mentor | bah. |
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| 01:11.29 | plugwash | Boreas iirc the full acrobat can do it |
| 01:11.30 | scarynetworkguy | heh |
| 01:11.38 | plugwash | i don't know if that is availible for linux though |
| 01:11.43 | cafuego | yeah, try building a kernel on a 486SX25 and then come back and complain about your P233 being slow. pfff. |
| 01:11.53 | Boreas | all i really want to do is put fill in a PDF form, if that allows me to do more... |
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| 01:12.42 | nailbiter | comotion: i don't think the debian NIS tools (yppasswd and friends) allow expiry information to be set from a NIS client .. it'll have to be done on the server itself, i think. |
| 01:12.47 | Boreas | plugwash, ah, turns out when someone told me it could be done, that's what they were using |
| 01:12.48 | Boreas | darn. |
| 01:13.06 | Boreas | what's the reason that some equivalent tool hasn't been developed for linux? |
| 01:13.11 | comotion | nailbiter: this is the limitation I ran into as well |
| 01:13.16 | nailbiter | comotion: you could always migrate to LDAP if you need a more flexible accounting system. :) |
| 01:13.24 | mechan0r | is a laptop hard drive likely to have 80c drive cable |
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| 01:13.28 | cafuego | Boreas: You cna do it in Linux by using PDFLib (US$900 payware) and writing an interface to that in C or PHp or python or something. |
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| 01:13.30 | initech | Boreas: because almost no one wants it? |
| 01:13.36 | comotion | nailbiter: I've looked into it, but don't have the time currently |
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| 01:14.02 | cafuego | comotion: Just write a little script that runs the expiry command on the server via ssh. |
| 01:14.20 | comotion | you mean replace login? |
| 01:14.26 | Boreas | initech, almost no one edits PDFs? |
| 01:14.39 | Boreas | seems like a pretty common format to me, with lots of opportunities to edit along the way |
| 01:14.43 | initech | Boreas: no, they really don't |
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| 01:14.48 | scarynetworkguy | Boreas: not really no |
| 01:14.52 | cafuego | comotion: You want 'login' to expire accounts? or does it not check expiry via nis at all? |
| 01:15.13 | initech | Boreas: for the most part, it's an output format, like postscript |
| 01:15.16 | fmatheus | may i boot from floppy and install from hard disk with the last, using the 20040801 install images? |
| 01:15.16 | nailbiter | comotion: are you looking for a way just to check account expiry from the NIS clients? or both to check _and_ update _and_ set expiry information? |
| 01:15.19 | comotion | cafuego: it does not expire accounts _at_all_, ie not even on the server |
| 01:15.28 | plugwash | Boreas pdf has trditionally been used as a final distribution medium |
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| 01:15.47 | plugwash | largely because the creation tools where so expensive and the reader was free |
| 01:15.59 | scarynetworkguy | fmatheus: yes you have our permission to try it |
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| 01:16.14 | fmatheus | scarynetworkguy: thanks =) |
| 01:16.16 | comotion | nailbiter, cafuego: expiring passwords with above commands (chage, passwd) does not affect a change even on the server, apparently cause I do not shadow |
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| 01:16.42 | cafuego | comotion: yeah, coz expiryt info is listed in shadow and NOT in passwd. |
| 01:16.48 | nailbiter | comotion: that may because the /etc/passwd file format doesn't include an expiry field. :) |
| 01:17.08 | joohnny | what module configure dma in webmin???? |
| 01:17.11 | cafuego | comotion: you could store expiry info in the GECOS field in passwd, but you'd need to rewrite nis, pam and the tools to handle that. |
| 01:17.29 | nailbiter | joohnny: as in IDE DMA transfer modes? edit /etc/hdparm.conf for that (after installing the 'hdparm' package). |
| 01:17.30 | fmatheus | scarynetworkguy: im some sleepy, but when i try he goes to network instalation without give a change to choose hard disk |
| 01:17.30 | comotion | cafuego: great ;-) |
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| 01:17.50 | cafuego | comotion: or you could just enable shadow. |
| 01:17.53 | plugwash | comotion why don't you use shadow passwords? |
| 01:17.53 | joohnny | sdma? |
| 01:18.00 | blunt_ | lol you'll never believe this...modprobe devmouse in worked fine added to /etc/moudles rebooted mouse is dead and modprobe devmouse print can't locate moudle devmouse |
| 01:18.11 | scarynetworkguy | fmatheus: What are you talking about? |
| 01:18.20 | nailbiter | blunt_: it's 'mousedev', not 'devmouse'. |
| 01:18.30 | Boreas | can i convert PDF to something editable? |
| 01:18.35 | blunt_ | rofl my fault sorry very stoned |
| 01:18.36 | mentor | chage doesn't seem to be using PAM... |
| 01:18.56 | cafuego | Boreas: pdf2text / pdf2html - your mileage may vary depening on how complex the pdf is. |
| 01:18.58 | comotion | plugwash: nis + shadow = pointless, but I suppose it'd be good to have expiry information |
| 01:18.58 | scarynetworkguy | Boreas: pdf2text will convert it to text for you. |
| 01:19.00 | geoaxis | does any one know how can i access a DVD menu of a DVD movie |
| 01:19.03 | nailbiter | Boreas: you can attempt to flatten it into ASCII. :) kword also comes with a .. occassionally workable .. PDF-to-Word converter. |
| 01:19.08 | blunt_ | nailbiter, Thanks dude |
| 01:19.20 | blunt_ | I got to lay off the pot when I work in debian |
| 01:19.23 | fmatheus | scarynetworkguy: good question, what image should i use to install sarge from hard disk repository? |
| 01:19.30 | Covener | geoaxis: totem or xine work for dvd menus |
| 01:19.36 | debian | what package does secure disk erasing? |
| 01:19.52 | scarynetworkguy | fmatheus: whatever the latest rc is |
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| 01:19.52 | debian | wipe, right, |
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| 01:20.13 | mentor | ah. Haven't got a network shadow file... |
| 01:20.24 | deadcat | debian: shred? |
| 01:20.26 | geoaxis | Covener, how do i do it xine |
| 01:20.33 | fmatheus | scarynetworkguy: ok, i will take another try |
| 01:20.33 | nailbiter | debian: try shred(1). not guaranteed to work on journalling filesystems. |
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| 01:21.16 | Covener | geoaxis: With the mouse? You may need to click through somewhere and jump to the menu... not sure I've only bothered with menus a few times |
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| 01:21.39 | fmatheus | scarynetworkguy: but that isnt so easy like it sounds, i get one image without ide modules |
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| 01:22.27 | deadcat | ROOOOOOT has landed! |
| 01:22.43 | scarynetworkguy | fmatheus: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 01:22.51 | plugwash | whats wrong with ircing as root? |
| 01:22.57 | scarynetworkguy | deadcat: the bot beat you |
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| 01:23.22 | scarynetworkguy | plugwash: nothing if you don't mind being owned |
| 01:23.25 | deadcat | scarynetworkguy: one of these day i am gonna get that bitch. |
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| 01:23.42 | Falcon_NX | ow alguem ai fala portugues |
| 01:23.45 | plugwash | scarynetworkguy i irc as admin on a windows box which amounts to the same thing |
| 01:23.48 | scarynetworkguy | deadcat: some how I doubt. dpkg has mad 1337 skillz |
| 01:23.54 | plugwash | and i can't say i have even been owned |
| 01:23.56 | scarynetworkguy | plugwash: yes it does |
| 01:23.57 | fmatheus | scarynetworkguy: ok im going to try again |
| 01:24.11 | deadcat | scarynetworkguy: hahah |
| 01:24.28 | scarynetworkguy | plugwash: well if you have been owned by somebody good you would never know it would you? |
| 01:24.40 | dessaix|zz | can anyone help me with getting sound to work? ive tried most of anythign i could think of. for some reason when i do a "cat /proc/asound/cards" its showing my Modem only |
| 01:24.44 | Falcon_NX | ow alguem ai fala portugues???????????????? Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 |
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| 01:25.11 | scarynetworkguy | deadcat: heh |
| 01:25.21 | scarynetworkguy | dessaix|zz: what sound card? |
| 01:25.32 | dessaix|zz | intel soundmax |
| 01:25.43 | scarynetworkguy | goddamned flies |
| 01:26.11 | Falcon_NX | oh my god, nobody speak portuguese????? |
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| 01:26.30 | scarynetworkguy | plugwash: you have computers that are on the Internet right? |
| 01:26.35 | nailbiter | Falcon_NX: try #debian-br instead. :) |
| 01:26.36 | initech | Falcon_NX: kind of dramatic, isn't it? |
| 01:26.45 | dessaix|zz | scarynetworkguy: snd_intel8x0 (its showing "snd_intel8x0m" instead .any help advice would be greatly appreciated |
| 01:26.56 | plugwash | scarynetworkguy yeah |
| 01:27.07 | scarynetworkguy | dessaix|zz: ok cool sounds like you have your modules loaded |
| 01:27.13 | scarynetworkguy | plugwash: that's enough of a reason |
| 01:27.17 | Falcon_NX | [nailbiter] thanks guy |
| 01:27.35 | plugwash | scarynetworkguy surely the good hackers would want something more than that |
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| 01:27.59 | plugwash | if they just want a box on 512K adsl they could get it much easier ways than by hacking me |
| 01:28.03 | deadcat | how this sexual harrassment work? a guy harass a girl and the company pays for it? what kind of bullshit is that. (= |
| 01:28.24 | dessaix|zz | scarynetworkguy: when i run "lsmod" under "Used by" snd_intel8x0m =1 and snd_intel8x0 = 0 |
| 01:29.00 | nailbiter | dessaix|zz: which kernel version are you running? |
| 01:29.07 | initech | plugwash: not really, they want someone to blame things on, you know |
| 01:29.11 | dessaix|zz | nailbiter: 2.6 |
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| 01:29.22 | initech | plugwash: not bandwidth |
| 01:29.27 | comotion | hey folks, is 2.6.8 and 2.4.27 fixed with respect to the topic advisory? |
| 01:29.29 | nailbiter | dessaix|zz: ok. and you're on a woody system? do you have 'hotplug' installed? |
| 01:29.34 | scarynetworkguy | plugwash: First of all we are talking about crackers. And the best way to do things is to own some poor sucker on a dsl line with no connection whatsoever to you and then rape and pillage from there. |
| 01:29.41 | dessaix|zz | nailbiter: mm not sure, im on sarge |
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| 01:30.01 | scarynetworkguy | plugwash: and if you IRC as root/admin you just made yourself a very tasty little target |
| 01:30.30 | Serbitar | who irc as root. i want an easy crack <3 |
| 01:30.38 | nailbiter | dessaix|zz: ok. check if you've got 'hotplug' installed. it can (sometimes) probe and load your sound module at boot time .. |
| 01:30.49 | sussudio | !mith Serbitar |
| 01:31.01 | Serbitar | heh |
| 01:31.35 | geoaxis | for some reason i cannot unmount my cdrom |
| 01:31.40 | geoaxis | can any one tell why |
| 01:31.48 | Serbitar | error msg? |
| 01:31.54 | geoaxis | even though nothing opened |
| 01:32.02 | geoaxis | cd-rom busy |
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| 01:32.11 | Serbitar | cd ~ && umount /cdrom |
| 01:32.19 | dessaix|zz | nailbiter: how can i check if i already have it ? |
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| 01:32.28 | reaper_ | i just reinstalled debian.. the new version of sshd wont let me connect via securecrt, what changed? |
| 01:32.37 | reaper_ | both times ive used the default sshd.conf |
| 01:32.47 | reaper_ | this is in sarge |
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| 01:32.55 | geoaxis | nopes |
| 01:32.55 | nailbiter | dessaix|zz: 'dpkg -l hotplug'. and whilst you're checking, also try 'dpkg -l pciutils'. |
| 01:33.03 | plugwash | wth is securecrt? |
| 01:33.12 | Covener | reaper_: as root or a general user? does debian default to not permitting root? |
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| 01:33.32 | nailbiter | plugwash: a windows ssh-capable terminal |
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| 01:33.43 | reaper_ | as a general user |
| 01:33.47 | reaper_ | nonroot |
| 01:33.57 | plugwash | do other clients work? |
| 01:34.00 | plugwash | like putty? |
| 01:34.07 | dessaix|zz | nailbiter: yes i have both |
| 01:34.33 | AoKaze | I have Debian SID and I want to install stable. is there a way to do so without looseing saved info? |
| 01:34.37 | justin | reaper_: care to define what "won't let me connect" means? |
| 01:34.47 | _rene_ | AoKaze: backup and reinstall |
| 01:34.51 | nailbiter | dessaix|zz: funky. can you do a 'pcimodules --class 0x00040100 --classmask 0x00ff0000'? it should you which sound module you should be loading. |
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| 01:35.23 | nailbiter | plugwash: putty should work with the debian sshd, yes. |
| 01:35.33 | AoKaze | Backup how? I am kinda new to Linux and this was installed on my computer for me |
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| 01:36.33 | dessaix|zz | nailbiter: its showing the correct driver i believe: i810_audio, snd-intel8x0 |
| 01:36.37 | tchmnkyz | hey all |
| 01:36.37 | nailbiter | AoKaze: you can't downgrade without a great deal of trouble. what data are you intent on saving? just user home directories? |
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| 01:37.12 | nailbiter | dessaix|zz: the first one (i810_audio) is the OSS driver. the second (snd-intel8x0) is the ALSA one.s |
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| 01:37.32 | AoKaze | just home with settings for some programs |
| 01:37.41 | tchmnkyz | i got a quick one, i just installe sarge and everything, and when i start gnome and kde i get the "X" in the middle of the screen (the XFree86 X mouse icon) |
| 01:37.47 | tchmnkyz | it just stays tere |
| 01:37.52 | tchmnkyz | and goes away eventualy |
| 01:37.53 | dessaix|zz | nailbiter: yes, how can i make my box use these |
| 01:38.12 | scarynetworkguy | AoKaze: just tar your /home and put it someplace safe |
| 01:38.24 | nailbiter | dessaix|zz: from what you said earlier, you've already loaded the ALSA (snd-intel8x0) driver? |
| 01:38.41 | dessaix|zz | nailbiter: yes sir |
| 01:38.44 | nailbiter | dessaix|zz: in that case, try running 'alsamixer' (to set your mixer levels), and then test-play some audio. |
| 01:38.52 | tchmnkyz | yes the mouse moves but that X just stays there |
| 01:39.14 | bono | Question: How can I keep my pppoe internet access always up? (I beleive my ISP shuts it down because of an idle timeout) |
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| 01:39.30 | dessaix|zz | nailbiter: getting error: No mixer elems found |
| 01:39.35 | nailbiter | AoKaze: backing up program settings may be a bit trickier; some may have changed configuration file formats since their woody versions .. |
| 01:39.46 | AoKaze | Yah I want to get a stable verson because the SID crashed and I cannot read my floppy or CD drive anymore |
| 01:40.01 | scarynetworkguy | bono: depends on your ISP. oftentimes idling in IRC produces enough traffic to keep it up |
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| 01:40.10 | nailbiter | dessaix|zz: (/me scrolls up) hm .. looks like the ALSA driver didn't pick your card up. |
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| 01:40.35 | bono | scarynetworkguy: but is there a parameter in the pppd/pppoe deamon to make the connection stay up? |
| 01:40.37 | AoKaze | nailbiter: the programs were installed from a .deb file and not from installation |
| 01:40.40 | zite | how do I compile a .c file? isn't it make <file>? |
| 01:40.53 | Xenguy | bono: Possibly there are better ways, but I have used a 'scheduled ping' to workaround this problem in the past |
| 01:41.10 | dessaix|zz | nailbiter: am i going to recompile kernel ? |
| 01:41.21 | bono | Xenguy: i did try a similar thing in putting a ping in my crontab... |
| 01:41.25 | scarynetworkguy | bono: think about what you said you think is causing the problem |
| 01:41.35 | nailbiter | dessaix|zz: it might just be that the maintainer of the snd-intel8x0 driver hasn't yet included an entry for your card .. |
| 01:41.41 | bono | Xenguy: I thought i solved the problem but it shut down this afternoon! :-) |
| 01:41.43 | xam | zite: not really. 'make' reads the Makefile (if someone has written one) and uses 'cc' to compile the files. If there |
| 01:41.46 | nailbiter | dessaix|zz: oh well. unload the ALSA one and try the OSS driver instead? |
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| 01:41.54 | TheBlueWizard | zite: to compile a C program, use gcc (e.g. gcc -o pgm pgm.c) |
| 01:42.02 | Xenguy | bono: e.g. -> ping -i 240 isp.com > /dev/null & |
| 01:42.05 | munster | Could anyone tell me if this is the proper way to setup ALSA/OSS emulation with debian in kernel 2.6.x? |
| 01:42.06 | munster | ... |
| 01:42.15 | bono | Xenguy: it works? |
| 01:42.17 | scarynetworkguy | bono: that is because your ISP is putting effort into preventing you from doing it. I know when I worked for a ISP we did. |
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| 01:42.29 | mizery_ | What's the simplest way to convert an mp3 from 256kb bit-rate to 128kb bit-rate? |
| 01:42.33 | nailbiter | AoKaze: so. do a 'dpkg --listfiles <packagename>' to see what files it's got installed. the ones in /etc you can back up. |
| 01:42.40 | Xenguy | bono: it works for me (I needed it for dial-up, and now I'm on DSL so not a problem anymore) |
| 01:42.41 | xam | zite: If there is no Makefile, then you have to compile it 'manually' ... which can be difficult for someone who doesn't know c |
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| 01:42.44 | bono | scarynetworkguy: i see |
| 01:42.50 | Xenguy | bono: s/works/worked |
| 01:42.56 | zite | I know c, but I am new to linux |
| 01:42.56 | TheBlueWizard | zite: the make program is for building up a program (or site or whatever) out of various pieces...for building a (big) C program, it repeatedly invokes gcc |
| 01:43.03 | zite | k |
| 01:43.04 | dessaix|zz | nailbiter: not familiar with oss, how ? |
| 01:43.13 | munster | include ALSA support and everything along with it outside of drivers...then include the driver for your card...then apt-get install alsa-base and alsa-utils (which auto installs because of a dependancy) |
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| 01:43.45 | xam | zite: well, the c compiler in Unix is 'cc' (most of the time it is a link to gcc, the GNU Compiler Collection) |
| 01:43.50 | nailbiter | dessaix|zz: 'rmmod snd-intel8x0' (to remove the ALSA driver) 'modprobe i810_audio' (to load the OSS one) |
| 01:43.59 | nailbiter | dessaix|zz: then run 'aumix' (from the 'aumix' package) to set your mixer levels. |
| 01:43.59 | TheBlueWizard | zite: you can take a first step into Linux programming by writing a classic Hello World! C program, then compile it with gcc and try it out |
| 01:43.59 | bono | Xenguy: and you put this command in your crontab to run every hour? |
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| 01:44.06 | zite | k, thanks |
| 01:44.21 | TheBlueWizard | zite: have fun! |
| 01:44.25 | zite | I'm actually just trying to compile a patch to get winex to 'make' |
| 01:44.43 | nailbiter | xam: s/GNU Compiler Collection/GNU C Compiler/ # :) |
| 01:44.46 | zite | though I look forward to learning 'real' c at a later time =) |
| 01:44.48 | Xenguy | bono: actually I never tried a cron job - I just invoked it manually (using an alias) whenever I dialed up :-) |
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| 01:44.57 | xam | nailbiter: nope, you got it wrong ;) |
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| 01:45.19 | dessaix|zz | nailbiter: done, how do i see results |
| 01:45.28 | xam | nailbiter: it *used* to be the "GNU C Compiler", but it's the "GNU Compiler Collection" now |
| 01:45.38 | nailbiter | xam: ah. :) that make sense. |
| 01:45.45 | bono | Xenguy: thanks :-) |
| 01:45.54 | Xenguy | bono: good luck |
| 01:46.03 | nailbiter | dessaix|zz: cranked your mixer levels up yet? :) try test playing some audio (say, with 'mpg321'). |
| 01:46.54 | TheBlueWizard | zite: uhh....you would likely have to use make to compile winex...and the patch is usually done via patch command...it is a bit involved...I suggest you learn some stuff first before going into deeper areas like that |
| 01:46.55 | dessaix|zz | nailbiter: how do i use oss mixer |
| 01:47.15 | nailbiter | dessaix|zz: 'aumix' _is_ an OSS mixer. it's in the 'aumix' package. |
| 01:47.16 | zite | patch command... I'll look into that, thanks |
| 01:47.29 | Xenguy | dessaix|zz: FWIW aumix works alright as a simple mixer |
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| 01:48.06 | FsckIt | zite: 'real' c? what are you using now? |
| 01:48.54 | dessaix|zz | nailbiter: i dont think i have any of those, they are not running |
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| 01:49.12 | zite | well, whenever I asked for help in #c channels or #c++, I'd be compiling on win32, so they'd tell me to get linux and start using 'real' c |
| 01:49.17 | cafuego | FsckIt: d, c with a stick. |
| 01:49.27 | zite | lol |
| 01:49.31 | nailbiter | dessaix|zz: feel free to install 'aumix', then. |
| 01:49.35 | Nurbs | cafuego: heh |
| 01:50.01 | deadcat | xmms is giving me this error on a 2.6 kernel: Inconsistency detected by ld.so: ../sysdeps/generic/dl-tls.c: 72: _dl_next_tls_modid: Assertion `result <= _rtld_local._dl_tls_max_dtv_idx' failed! |
| 01:50.06 | zite | well the problem with compiling winex seems to be that there is some problem with versions of gcc higher then 3.3.3 or something, but I found this patch that is supposed to correct the problem, but I don't know the origonal file I'm supposed to patch |
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| 01:50.20 | FsckIt | cafuego: oh, well.. no stick for me, thanks |
| 01:50.39 | Nurbs | zite: check the patch file itself? use grep? |
| 01:50.46 | nailbiter | deadcat: could you temporarily move away your /lib/tls file and try starting xmms again? if _that_ works, you've run into a glibc bug .. |
| 01:50.54 | nailbiter | deadcat: uh .. /lib/tls directory. :) |
| 01:50.57 | FsckIt | zite: yeah, you should program in real c on linux :-) |
| 01:51.01 | deadcat | nailbiter: thanks |
| 01:51.22 | FsckIt | zite: you could always fake a 'real' c by using gcc on cygwin, of course |
| 01:51.30 | zite | heh |
| 01:51.42 | deadcat | nailbiter: i have a glibc bug (= |
| 01:51.44 | iLLPoTaTo | i used the command 'umask 0755' on the logged in username, but when I upload a file through that username, the attributes do not change to that value, any suggestions? |
| 01:51.59 | zite | so grep is like, a find command right? |
| 01:52.14 | FsckIt | zite: no.. find is find, grep is grep |
| 01:52.22 | zite | oh.. |
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| 01:52.26 | Nurbs | iLLPoTaTo: umask is inverted then ANDed to 0777 |
| 01:52.26 | deadcat | zite: grep search data in the file. |
| 01:52.31 | zite | I see |
| 01:52.36 | xam | zite: 'grep' just searches (text) files for a pattern |
| 01:52.49 | deadcat | nailbiter my brother. do i wait for the update/fix? |
| 01:52.54 | Nurbs | iLLPoTaTo: it's basically telling which bits *not* to set |
| 01:53.14 | FsckIt | zite: grep does regular expression matching (General Regular Expression Program, or something like that) |
| 01:53.20 | nailbiter | deadcat: :) yes. you can, of course, report your bug too .. |
| 01:53.21 | iLLPoTaTo | so i would do the opposite of what i want, correct? |
| 01:53.43 | deadcat | nailbiter: maybe later. heheh |
| 01:53.53 | Nurbs | iLLPoTaTo: yes |
| 01:53.54 | FsckIt | zite: find recursively descends directories, matching filenames and file attributes |
| 01:54.02 | zite | ah |
| 01:54.02 | Nurbs | iLLPoTaTo: invert the bits, then convert to octal again :) |
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| 01:54.27 | FsckIt | zite: of course, the man pages will tell you all of the details :-) |
| 01:54.39 | zite | man pages are nice |
| 01:54.51 | iLLPoTaTo | now if i knew how to do all that, heh. I'll figure it out with an ftp client that displays the octal vals, thanks Nurbs |
| 01:54.54 | zite | I really like them, very handy |
| 01:54.54 | xam | iLLPoTaTo: umask just tell what file permissions *can* set at maximum. The programme can decide to limit the permissions even further |
| 01:55.30 | munster | how can i get apt-get -t stable to work properly? |
| 01:55.34 | Nurbs | FsckIt: the origin is not too clear, but it probably comes from: "Grep originated from a UNIX text editor, which provided the command sequence g/re/p." even though nowadays it's an acronym, too :) |
| 01:55.50 | munster | it installs the testing packages instead because i think i need something in my sources file |
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| 01:56.23 | iLLPoTaTo | nurbs, if i understand correctly, to set permissions at 0755 i have to use 'umask 0022'? |
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| 01:56.41 | zite | maybe just downgrading would be easier, I think the file I'm supposed to patch is oaidl_p.c but I can't seem to find it |
| 01:56.45 | Nurbs | iLLPoTaTo: each "digit" (octit? :)) in an octal number is a combination of 3 bits which represent 4, 2 and 1 |
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| 01:56.49 | Nurbs | iLLPoTaTo: you got it |
| 01:56.54 | zite | its possible I'm just not using the find command properly though |
| 01:57.00 | FsckIt | nurbs: oh yeah.. that's right |
| 01:57.02 | iLLPoTaTo | bc i did that, but the permissions are still automatically set to '0640' |
| 01:57.08 | FsckIt | zite: what are you trying to do? |
| 01:57.20 | zite | I goto the root directory and say find oaidl_p.c |
| 01:57.24 | iLLPoTaTo | and I was told earlier that umask is what sets permissions automatically on uploaded files |
| 01:57.24 | zite | returns no results |
| 01:57.31 | Nurbs | find / -name oaidl_p.c |
| 01:57.35 | Nurbs | man find! :) |
| 01:57.37 | zite | thanks |
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| 01:58.12 | cafuego | iLLPoTaTo: uploaded how? Most apps refuse to set the x bit on uploads, just for security reasons. |
| 01:58.24 | Nurbs | stupid 24h disconnects, hmm. need to switch ISP... *waits* |
| 01:58.35 | zite | FsckIt: I'm trying to install a patch to something becuase it seems winex has problems compiling with gcc versions above 3.3.2 |
| 01:58.53 | iLLPoTaTo | cafuego: thru a GUI FTP client on winxp |
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| 01:59.16 | cafuego | iLLPoTaTo: yeah, that's never going to set x for you. |
| 01:59.25 | Nurbs | mhm |
| 01:59.43 | Cuga | anybody having trouble with gaim + msn lately? |
| 01:59.49 | iLLPoTaTo | o, I thought perms we're automatically set on the server |
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| 02:00.40 | cafuego | iLLPoTaTo: yeah, via the umask, BUT any half-decent ftp server will refuse to create executables from uploads, imaging the security implications if anyone could upload their own 'ls' to a server and run it. |
| 02:01.19 | Nurbs_ | cafuego: how would they run it? |
| 02:01.28 | cafuego | Nurbs_: via SITE QUOTE |
| 02:01.38 | iLLPoTaTo | true, I only do it bc I need to upload to my apache directory often and i believe it needs +x flag |
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| 02:01.48 | Nurbs_ | cafuego: you mean via stupid ftpds? :) |
| 02:02.00 | FsckIt | zite: well, good luck |
| 02:02.04 | cafuego | iLLPoTaTo: Directories and cgi scripts do, html, php, images don't. |
| 02:02.09 | zite | heh, thanks =) |
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| 02:02.47 | FsckIt | zite: what problems does it have, by the way? |
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| 02:03.14 | zite | I'll give them to you in a minute if it doesn't work, I'm recompiling now |
| 02:03.38 | Mutalisk | if the debians cds are 730megs, and my cdrs are 730 |
| 02:03.41 | Mutalisk | how am i gonna burn it |
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| 02:04.06 | cafuego | Mutalisk: The debian images are 630-640 MB, not 730. |
| 02:04.22 | Nurbs_ | damn. wth was that |
| 02:04.22 | _santiago_ | hi |
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| 02:04.47 | iLLPoTaTo | cafuego: apparently that isn't so. I left the php file at 0640 (the dir is 0755) and i receive this error @ http://www.pastebin.com/92557 |
| 02:05.02 | cafuego | iLLPoTaTo: yes, because it has a 0 at the end. |
| 02:05.11 | cafuego | iLLPoTaTo: You want it to be 644 |
| 02:05.41 | _santiago_ | someone does know what is the font used in the word "debian" of the debian logo? |
| 02:05.44 | cafuego | That has nothing to do with it being executable. It's not ever executed. |
| 02:05.50 | cafuego | _santiago_: Yes. |
| 02:05.52 | gothtec | How can I reserve bandwidth for a specific process? Any howto's or anything? |
| 02:05.57 | zite | holy shit, it worked |
| 02:06.01 | zite | thanks =) |
| 02:06.05 | scarynetworkguy | _santiago_: yes someone does know |
| 02:06.11 | FsckIt | gothtec: I think you want to google on QoS |
| 02:06.19 | FsckIt | zite: cool |
| 02:06.22 | cafuego | _santiago_: Poppl Laudatio |
| 02:06.28 | iLLPoTaTo | cafuego: thank you very much for the clarification, now i'll just figure out how to default those values |
| 02:06.34 | cafuego | _santiago_: it's a payware font. |
| 02:06.39 | _santiago_ | thanks cafuego |
| 02:06.44 | gothtec | FsckIt: will do |
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| 02:07.12 | elis | How to change the height of the taskbar components (in fact when I put the panel bar to 40px, the icons are good but there is 2 lines of tasks... and I just want 1 line of tasks whatever the panel size is set to...) ? |
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| 02:08.29 | deadcat | do i still need to run esd if i am using alsa? |
| 02:08.55 | _santiago_ | cafuego, where I can get it? |
| 02:09.02 | dessaix|zz | ok i think im understanding my problem a bit more, i did am "rmmod snd-intel8x0" how do i install it again |
| 02:09.12 | cafuego | _santiago_: You can buy it from the publisher. |
| 02:09.16 | deadcat | whats a good video driver to use for mplayer? i am using xv and the CPU is 100% |
| 02:09.35 | FsckIt | cafuego: where do you see that? |
| 02:09.41 | themusicgod1 | I have an old [Dexxa] serial mouse, but Xfree86 is showing for /dev/psaux's options only PS/2... what device are serial connections usually located on[ie MSDOS iirc had COM1 COM2, etc]? |
| 02:09.48 | justin | deadcat: xv isn't a video driver |
| 02:09.54 | scarynetworkguy | deadcat: what vid card? |
| 02:09.58 | cafuego | FsckIt: See what? |
| 02:10.01 | nailbiter | deadcat: only on alsa drivers which don't do hardware mixing. |
| 02:10.06 | deadcat | scarynetworkguy: nvidia |
| 02:10.08 | FsckIt | cafuego: /usr/local/apache2 |
| 02:10.09 | cafuego | FsckIt: oh, on iLLPoTaTo's pastebin |
| 02:10.16 | ugly | themusicgod1: /dev/ttyS0, etc. |
| 02:10.29 | FsckIt | cafuego: oh, ok |
| 02:10.47 | xam | deadcat: usually xv is quite good, but you might want to try a hardware-specific driver if you have a card that is supported by mplayer |
| 02:10.54 | themusicgod1 | ok |
| 02:10.56 | nailbiter | deadcat: do an 'xvinfo'; if you see 'software scaler', then your Xv driver probably isn't very efficient. :) |
| 02:11.02 | themusicgod1 | thanks er, ugly :) |
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| 02:11.08 | xam | justin: it is a mplayer video output backend |
| 02:11.11 | scarynetworkguy | deadcat: yea the mplayer guys *hate* nvidia so you and me are kind of fucked. :( |
| 02:11.12 | deadcat | xam: i see |
| 02:11.30 | xam | deadcat: mplayer -vo help |
| 02:11.41 | deadcat | nailbiter: i dont see software scaler |
| 02:11.50 | themusicgod1 | ugly: do you think it's possible that a fried video card will throw a bunch of nasty improper signals on /dev/ttyS0? or are those busses completely seperate and that just sound absurd? |
| 02:11.54 | deadcat | scarynetworkguy: those fucks |
| 02:11.58 | deadcat | xam: did that. |
| 02:12.03 | dessaix|zz | can anyone help me to reload a module i removed with rmmod ? |
| 02:12.06 | scarynetworkguy | cafuego: no no while all mplayer guys hate nvidia not all guys who hate nvidia are mplayer guys. |
| 02:12.09 | ugly | themusicgod1: not a hardware techie here, sorry :P |
| 02:12.14 | deadcat | xam: just gonna test all of them |
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| 02:12.22 | cafuego | scarynetworkguy: Cool, coz I actually don't like mplayer at all either |
| 02:12.26 | iLLPoTaTo | cafuego: since i noticed the shuddering, is there a problem with the standar dir i used? |
| 02:12.27 | scarynetworkguy | deadcat: yup |
| 02:12.38 | scarynetworkguy | cafuego: well them I'm glad we got that sorted. |
| 02:12.39 | xam | scarynetworkguy: well, mplayer works fine with my nvidia 2 mx ... using the nvidia driver and normal xv video output ;) |
| 02:12.42 | cafuego | iLLPoTaTo: No, it's the nonstandard tarball install that makes me shudder. |
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| 02:12.57 | marcst | themusicgod1: simple test: replace card, check for same symptoms |
| 02:12.58 | cafuego | iLLPoTaTo: There *are* apache2 apckages, you know. |
| 02:13.03 | nailbiter | deadcat: ok. are you sure your machine is fast enough to decode the video stream? you can check by running with '-vo md5' (or '-vo null') and seeing if you're still getting dropped frames. |
| 02:13.04 | xam | dessaix|zz: modprobe |
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| 02:13.23 | deadcat | nailbiter: p3 800mhz |
| 02:13.26 | FsckIt | deadcat: try xine or videolan? :-) |
| 02:13.36 | iLLPoTaTo | cafuego: i know, but apt was so easy |
| 02:13.41 | cafuego | deadcat: More then fast enough |
| 02:13.44 | deadcat | FsckIt: ya. xine lags too. |
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| 02:13.58 | dessaix|zz | xam: thank you very much |
| 02:14.02 | deadcat | cafuego: thats what i figured. it used to be quite smooth. |
| 02:14.12 | cafuego | deadcat: DMA on on the DVD drive? |
| 02:14.14 | xam | deadcat: have you MTRR support in the kernel? |
| 02:14.23 | AoKaze | Can I cause Debian to become instable by installing from source? |
| 02:14.35 | AoKaze | instaid of .deb packages |
| 02:14.37 | themusicgod1 | marcst: my other cards are all gibbled. but i'll keep that in mind |
| 02:14.37 | ugly | AoKaze: by installing WHAT from source? |
| 02:14.41 | scarynetworkguy | xam: good for you. But many people do have problems and when they do it is hard for them to get help with them. deadcat would seem to fall into the group of "people who have problems" so it kind of sucks to be him |
| 02:14.41 | sussudio | AoKaze: yes |
| 02:14.55 | deadcat | cafuego: its a video on the hd. no dvd for me |
| 02:15.03 | xam | AoKaze: if you are replacing important packages, and using unstable sources, then yes of course |
| 02:15.06 | cafuego | deadcat: DMA enabled on the HD? |
| 02:15.07 | deadcat | xam: MTRR=y |
| 02:15.14 | marcst | themusicgod1: i hear ya :) |
| 02:15.20 | ykke | It depends on if you use stable or unstable software. |
| 02:15.22 | xam | deadcat: good |
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| 02:15.36 | AoKaze | how do you know if s source is stable or not? |
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| 02:15.38 | deadcat | cafuego: how do i check with hdparm? -T? |
| 02:15.45 | xam | AoKaze: by testing it ;) |
| 02:15.47 | dondelelcaro | AoKaze: you can't, generally speaking. |
| 02:15.48 | cafuego | deadcat: hdparm /dev/hdX will tell you. |
| 02:16.00 | sussudio | AoKaze: don't install third party crap. it's like pissing in the swimming pool. |
| 02:16.09 | deadcat | cafuego: ya. on |
| 02:16.19 | AoKaze | third party? |
| 02:16.31 | dessaix|zz | ok heres the problem im having, i have 2 soudn modules installed for my intel8x0 . right now its trying to use my modem snd (snd-intel8x0m) and i cant delete it because it is telling my it is ebign used. how can i make my debian switch from intel8x0m to intel8x0 (or how can i remove intel8x0m) |
| 02:16.33 | xam | AoKaze: stuff that doesn't come with debian |
| 02:16.34 | cafuego | deadcat: Is the video file corrupt somehow? |
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| 02:17.01 | deadcat | cafuego: probably. |
| 02:17.02 | deadcat | (= |
| 02:17.03 | AoKaze | well what if Debian doesnt have the software that I need hehe |
| 02:17.10 | sussudio | AoKaze: you're SOL. |
| 02:17.13 | deadcat | let me play a diff video |
| 02:17.18 | debian | hmm |
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| 02:17.22 | FsckIt | AoKaze: if Debian doesn't have, you don't need it ;-P |
| 02:17.24 | ykke | AoKaze, Everything (almost) has two versions of the software, one stable and one development. |
| 02:17.43 | cafuego | FsckIt: Debian doesn't (officialy) have java. |
| 02:17.52 | dondelelcaro | AoKaze: what software is this? Regardless, you can build stuff like that from source.. although, there's generally little point... |
| 02:17.57 | debian | deadcat, nailbiter: thank you for the suggestion of 'shred' |
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| 02:18.05 | FsckIt | cafuego: the statement definitely stands :-) |
| 02:18.14 | xam | dessaix|zz: the module could be used by a programme, so close all music/media application and sound daemons (artsd/esd/nas/...). The module could also be used by other modules; do a 'lsmod' to find out and remove the other modules first |
| 02:18.15 | FsckIt | heh |
| 02:18.18 | dondelelcaro | !info kaffe |
| 02:18.20 | ykke | When I ran debian on my server I allways compiled all the software by myself. |
| 02:18.21 | dpkg | kaffe: (A JVM to run Java bytecode), section interpreters, is optional. Version: 2:1.1.4.PRE1.1.5-11 (sid), Packaged size: 48 kB, Installed size: 112 kB |
| 02:18.25 | deadcat | debian: (= too bad it doesnt do dirs |
| 02:18.28 | FsckIt | !info gcj |
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| 02:18.30 | dpkg | gcj: (The GNU Java compiler), section devel, is optional. Version: 4:3.3.4-2 (sid), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 0 kB |
| 02:18.51 | dondelelcaro | ykke: that was rather pointless.... |
| 02:18.51 | AoKaze | I dont know cause I dont know what packages Debian has though heh |
| 02:18.59 | cafuego | FsckIt: That's completely useless for what I'm trying to run. |
| 02:18.59 | deadcat | if you guys use the wmbubble app. the duck's ass is boiling when i use xine/mplayer |
| 02:19.04 | dondelelcaro | AoKaze: /msg dpkg search |
| 02:19.31 | FsckIt | cafuego: note the smiley on the statements above, by the way |
| 02:19.39 | dondelelcaro | AoKaze: considering the fact that Debian has 14000 or so packages, odds are it has what you're looking for. |
| 02:19.39 | ykke | dondelelcaro, It depends on what you mean, you can configure the software properly and remove crap you know you don't need. |
| 02:19.48 | ykke | And you KNOW what's in your software. |
| 02:20.01 | ykke | Nowadays I run FreeBSD on my server, a rather big difference. 8] |
| 02:20.03 | dondelelcaro | ykke: uh, you can do the same using the versions that are in Debian as well. |
| 02:20.14 | AoKaze | Does Debian have VMware? |
| 02:20.22 | sussudio | AoKaze: don't be stupid |
| 02:20.25 | dondelelcaro | AoKaze: VMWare is proprietary software, so no. |
| 02:20.26 | FsckIt | ykke: what is the difference? |
| 02:20.34 | cafuego | java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: Ljavax/swing/JFrame; |
| 02:20.38 | cafuego | !lart kaffe |
| 02:20.41 | AoKaze | so there it doesnt have what I need installed |
| 02:20.48 | ykke | FsckIt, The difference? |
| 02:20.54 | dondelelcaro | AoKaze: uh, because Debian doesn't distribute warez? |
| 02:21.00 | sussudio | AoKaze: fine. go back to windows then. bye. |
| 02:21.04 | FsckIt | ykke: you said FreeBSD is a big difference... |
| 02:21.09 | ykke | FreeBSD is BSD and a whole system, Linux is just the kernel. |
| 02:21.27 | dondelelcaro | ykke: yes, but considering that we're talking about Debian here.... |
| 02:21.41 | cafuego | dondelelcaro: Like Debian/BSD ? |
| 02:21.46 | ykke | 8] |
| 02:21.55 | FsckIt | ykke: well, between FreeBSD and Debian, I meant.. I've run FreeBSD before, and frankly, after a bit, I forgot that I was running FreeBSD as opposed to Linux |
| 02:22.02 | sussudio | the first rule about Debian GNU/BSD... |
| 02:22.02 | xam | cafuego: or even Debian GNU/Hurd ? |
| 02:22.03 | cafuego | dondelelcaro: They're the black sheep, really. |
| 02:22.16 | cafuego | xam: No, we're sticking to USEFUL versions of bsd. |
| 02:22.19 | nailbiter | AoKaze: 'qemu' can sometimes be an acceptable alternative for VMWare. |
| 02:22.19 | sussudio | !ewe |
| 02:22.20 | dpkg | Guerin: baah. |
| 02:22.23 | AoKaze | sussudio: you have quite an attitude. I am just saying thats one that I need installed. I have a registered copy of VMware already |
| 02:22.25 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: and HURD is a purple sheep? |
| 02:22.33 | debian | deadcat: just want to kill a disk. It's full of 'inappropriate' content and will be sending back to main office. :) |
| 02:22.39 | dondelelcaro | AoKaze: so install VMware. |
| 02:22.42 | xam | cafuego: so Debian GNU/*BSD then ;-P |
| 02:22.44 | cafuego | xam: Not one where the POWER users cheer when to get it to work. |
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| 02:22.56 | sussudio | dondelelcaro: HURD is probably the albino sheep that gets bitten by the other sheep. |
| 02:22.57 | ykke | dondelelcaro, If someone asks me something I just answer it if I can, and I don't care if it's in #bingolotto or in #debian at all, I just answer. |
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| 02:23.00 | debian | deadcat: just tried wipe, it's slow as well. I think I shall left it running overnight. |
| 02:23.05 | debian | well=hell |
| 02:23.09 | AoKaze | the whole thing is I am concerned about makeing the OS unstable |
| 02:23.13 | cafuego | AoKaze: There's no reason you can't install it on Debian. |
| 02:23.26 | xam | cafuego: well, considering that I tested hurd 0.0 when it came out I must be a power user ;) |
| 02:23.42 | cafuego | xam: "hurd power user" yes |
| 02:23.51 | FsckIt | xam: it's probably changed a bit since then |
| 02:24.08 | cafuego | FsckIt: Yeah, maybe they added i dunno, ANY functionality? ;-) |
| 02:24.13 | dondelelcaro | ykke: you started randomnly rambling about how FreeBSD was a distribution as opposed to linux just being a kernel which was rather pointless, considering the fact that we were discussing Debian which is also a distribution. Thus, FsckIt's question still stood. |
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| 02:24.29 | FsckIt | cafuego: they have.. as a matter of fact, Hurd ran X a couple years ago |
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| 02:24.56 | ykke | dondelelcaro, I wasn't done with my answer... |
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| 02:25.32 | Klipper | hey all! i just installed the nvidia drivers from apt-get, and i still cant get my rez above 1024x768 when using "resize and rotate" in kde |
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| 02:25.53 | dessaix|zz | xam: ok how do i make it so that it uses intel8x0 instead of i810_audio ? |
| 02:25.54 | thomas_adam | Klipper: #nvidia |
| 02:25.59 | ykke | FsckIt, And in ways BSD has it's stronger moments, and Linux has, I think GNU/Linux is more powerfull if you're into gaming and such things, but BSD is more the system you use if you only work with your machine. |
| 02:26.03 | Rez | Klipper: damnit, didn't I already ask you to use a different abbreviation? |
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| 02:26.20 | Klipper | when i was config'ing X, i secified 640x480 up through 1280x1024 |
| 02:26.21 | xam | FsckIt: very likely. Back then it was just a tarball you had to unpack (from a linux system onto an empty partition), install/configure grub, boot into the hurd and modify some text files and set up some translators ... there was no "automatic installation" |
| 02:26.28 | Klipper | sorry...res |
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| 02:26.47 | ykke | BSD is more popular on technological schools in sweden for an example. |
| 02:26.54 | FsckIt | xam: that's pretty much what I did a couple years ago, too |
| 02:27.01 | sussudio | ykke: all three of them? |
| 02:27.03 | dondelelcaro | ykke: popularity is not a valid indicator of utility or quality. See windows. |
| 02:27.08 | cafuego | swedes drink too much, that explains a lot. |
| 02:27.14 | scarynetworkguy | Klipper: do you have your monitor refresh rates set up properly? |
| 02:27.21 | ykke | On the school computers there they have Windows XP or FreeBSD. |
| 02:27.23 | Klipper | i belive so |
| 02:27.28 | xam | dessaix|zz: you probably want to run alsaconf |
| 02:27.29 | dessaix|zz | if i want my debian to use intel8x0 instead of i810_audio , is it safe to rmmod i810_audio ?? |
| 02:27.31 | FsckIt | cafuego: drink *too much*? the mind boggles |
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| 02:27.43 | scarynetworkguy | Klipper: what are the proper refresh rates for your monitor? |
| 02:27.50 | Klipper | 75hz, 70hz, 65hz |
| 02:27.55 | cafuego | FsckIt: yeah, not just "a very very large amount" but 'too much" ;-) |
| 02:27.59 | dessaix|zz | xam: alsaconf is giving me errors thats why i was thinking about maybe stopping i810 since it is beign used |
| 02:28.04 | ykke | dondelelcaro, I just told my opinion, I'm very aware of that you see me as an enemy, but it's okay with me. :) |
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| 02:28.12 | xam | dessaix|zz: rmmod just removes it from the memory. It won't delete it from the hard drive |
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| 02:28.18 | FsckIt | cafuego: is that even possible? |
| 02:28.19 | dondelelcaro | dessaix|zz: change /etc/modules to load intel8x0 instead of i810_audio then, and then rmmod i810_audio; |
| 02:28.22 | munster | I was wondering if someone could help me install stable packages while using testing? |
| 02:28.25 | cafuego | FsckIt: Oooh yes, it is. |
| 02:28.30 | scarynetworkguy | Klipper: and what do you have in your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 for refresh rates and vid card driver? |
| 02:28.44 | dondelelcaro | munster: you shouldn't really need to do that... what exactly are you trying to do? |
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| 02:29.00 | Klipper | scarynetworkguy: can i post the to you in #flood? |
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| 02:29.06 | munster | i want the alsa packages from stable |
| 02:29.22 | scarynetworkguy | Klipper: sure |
| 02:29.24 | dondelelcaro | ykke: your opinion is fine. It's just not goinng to sway anyone... |
| 02:29.35 | ykke | dondelelcaro, :) |
| 02:29.36 | dondelelcaro | munster: any reason why? |
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| 02:29.58 | munster | yeah...want to see if I'm having a problem with a program that I didn't have a problem when using gentoo |
| 02:30.08 | munster | I think I was using lower versions of alsa stuff |
| 02:30.16 | T_VoiD | what severity level to put in a bug report when the package won't build from source (bashism, won't work wish dash) ? |
| 02:30.37 | dondelelcaro | munster: if you know the exact version, add a snapshot.debian.net line for alsa, and then install the specific version that you want. |
| 02:30.39 | ykke | I'm not trying to talk you into anything else, I don't have a reason to do that. |
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| 02:30.50 | dondelelcaro | T_VoiD: that's a serious bug. [FTBFS] |
| 02:30.53 | ykke | I think debian is the nicest linux distro, the only I should use. |
| 02:31.09 | xam | ykke: bah. Now you are using reverse psychology! |
| 02:31.10 | munster | dondel...any suggestion on how to do that or maybe a doc that'll point me in the right direction? |
| 02:31.21 | Klipper | ykke: i agree totally |
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| 02:31.29 | ykke | xam, Haha, nah. |
| 02:31.32 | dondelelcaro | munster: visit snapshot.debian.net. It explains how to do it on the very first page. [You're going to add a line to your sources.list] |
| 02:31.33 | T_VoiD | dondelelcaro: ok. (i read the pages about buglevel but couldn't find it in serious (even if I suspected it had to be a rc bug) |
| 02:31.41 | munster | thanks a bunch |
| 02:31.50 | ykke | I have tested Slackware, Debian, Redhat and Gentoo. |
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| 02:31.56 | ykke | I didn't like gentoo at all. |
| 02:32.02 | dondelelcaro | T_VoiD: yeah, RC is severity >= serious. |
| 02:32.08 | ykke | Slackware was okay, but I enjoyed debian most. |
| 02:32.12 | FsckIt | ykke: oh, don't worry about it.. I'm just saying that I don't really see too much difference these days between the Linux distros and the *BSDs (esp. after you get it configured the way you want it) |
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| 02:32.35 | dondelelcaro | T_VoiD: although, the fix is most likely changing #!/bin/sh to #!/bin/bash... |
| 02:32.52 | ykke | FsckIt, Good point there, it's only the name I think. ;) |
| 02:33.04 | scarynetworkguy | Klipper: what monitor do you have? |
| 02:33.22 | FsckIt | ykke: I didn't say "no difference", just not a lot of difference |
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| 02:34.00 | ykke | FsckIt, I got you there, and I agree, there are no big differences today. |
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| 02:34.06 | T_VoiD | dondelelcaro: yep, except I did that in the file but that wasn't enough. it must call an other heh |
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| 02:34.31 | T_VoiD | dondelelcaro: anyways that was also to post a real bug. but when I wanted to unpack the source that failed so i'll post two |
| 02:34.37 | dondelelcaro | T_VoiD: eh, could be... something with a bashism is using #!/bin/sh when it should be #!/bin/bash |
| 02:34.44 | Klipper | networkguy: im not sure |
| 02:34.47 | Klipper | its not branded |
| 02:34.52 | dondelelcaro | T_VoiD: apt-get source foo; failed? |
| 02:35.05 | dondelelcaro | T_VoiD: which package is this? |
| 02:35.18 | lucas_ | i had a woody machine with the bf24 kernel, i installed a 250gb hdd and the system could only see about 129gb of it, jm_ told me there's a size limit in the bf24 kernel, so i rolled my own 2.4.18 kernel but the problem remains --- can anyone tell me which kernel option/driver i need? |
| 02:35.18 | T_VoiD | dondelelcaro: no it's a source with a upstream/ dir and debian/rules unpack failed |
| 02:35.18 | scarynetworkguy | Klipper: what size is it? |
| 02:35.23 | T_VoiD | dondelelcaro: libsdl |
| 02:35.25 | Klipper | 15" |
| 02:35.27 | dondelelcaro | T_VoiD: ah... |
| 02:35.29 | T_VoiD | dondelelcaro: libsdl1.2 |
| 02:35.42 | Klipper | energy star aoproved is the only logo on it |
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| 02:35.48 | Klipper | and i cant get to the back |
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| 02:35.55 | kagemajin | lucas_: get a more recent kernel? |
| 02:36.09 | T_VoiD | dondelelcaro: well tar xzf worked well to get my source and check my real bug heh |
| 02:36.23 | lucas_ | kagemajin: i could but i'd rather stick with the kernel from woody if possible |
| 02:36.35 | kagemajin | lucas_: good luck then :D |
| 02:36.44 | lucas_ | kagemajin: thanks :P |
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| 02:37.04 | BraMax | #micro |
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| 02:37.36 | xam | Klipper: perhaps "read-edid" might help you |
| 02:37.39 | kagemajin | lucas_: if it's a SATA hard disk, you don't have too much of a choice - get a recent kernel or backport libata for 2.4.1X kernels |
| 02:37.41 | dondelelcaro | Klipper: there aren't very many 15" monitors that do more than 1024x768... |
| 02:37.57 | Klipper | well, i KNOW this will do up to 1280 |
| 02:38.01 | Klipper | it worked in suse |
| 02:38.03 | scarynetworkguy | nor are there very many on which it is a good idea even if they can |
| 02:38.04 | Klipper | and windows |
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| 02:38.36 | lucas_ | kagemajin: nah, it's just ide --- i'm reading about an an ac patch for 2.4.18 now, looks like i'll have to get a newer kernel |
| 02:38.36 | sussudio | dondelelcaro: why would you want them to? |
| 02:38.42 | dondelelcaro | Klipper: then you haven't set your VRes or HRes appropriately for the monitor. Use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 to change the values... |
| 02:38.48 | scarynetworkguy | Klipper: well you gotta figure out your refresh rates look on the back of it to get any info you can and google. good luck |
| 02:38.48 | lucas_ | kagemajin: ie, /topic |
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| 02:38.56 | themusicgod1 | erg connection problems |
| 02:39.14 | Klipper | ok, thanks you scarynetworkguy |
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| 02:39.24 | dondelelcaro | sussudio: no clue. If it does 1280x1024, I dont want to know what refresh rate it's using... |
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| 02:39.36 | cafuego | Klipper: You could try 'read-edid' |
| 02:39.53 | Klipper | cafuego: whats that? |
| 02:39.57 | sussudio | dondelelcaro: i have a monitor that does 640x480@56 |
| 02:39.59 | sussudio | it hurts. |
| 02:40.16 | scarynetworkguy | sussudio: do your eyes bleed? |
| 02:40.30 | sussudio | i think it does 1024x768 interlaced flickerhell |
| 02:40.35 | xam | Klipper: the problem the optimal resolution. For 1280x1024 you will need a 0.22mm dot pitch |
| 02:40.38 | niaht_ | Anyone with knowledge of samba 3.0.5 using ldapsam backend willing to help with a 90% functioning implementation? (folks in #samba are MIA probably enjoying the weekend) |
| 02:40.39 | sussudio | scarynetworkguy: it's under a table somewhere. |
| 02:40.52 | scarynetworkguy | sussudio: best place for it |
| 02:41.02 | sussudio | scarynetworkguy: right next to the HP Plotter. |
| 02:41.23 | xam | Klipper: I have a small C programme I wrote that will print out the optimal resolution for your monitor |
| 02:41.23 | Klipper | so when i do find out what the refresh rates are, what line do i edit? |
| 02:41.28 | scarynetworkguy | sussudio: heh |
| 02:41.48 | Klipper | xam: really, is it any good? lol |
| 02:41.59 | FsckIt | niaht_: what's the last 10% that's going to take 90% of the time? |
| 02:42.13 | niaht_ | mmm.. plotters.. leave them on all night and enjoy the gaseous fumes.. |
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| 02:42.16 | catalyst | I got this HOSTLD scripts/kconfig/qconf /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lqt error when trying to make xconfig on kernel, what could be the cause? |
| 02:42.40 | FsckIt | catalyst: you have the qt -dev package(s) installed? |
| 02:43.01 | catalyst | FsckIt: yeah! Just upgraded from sid |
| 02:43.01 | xam | Klipper: not really ;) |
| 02:43.06 | Klipper | lol |
| 02:43.23 | niaht_ | FsckIt: lol, you are absolutely right.. Everything seems to be functioning except that despite adding the machine account to the ldap database during a join, I receive a message stating a logon failure, account not found. |
| 02:43.41 | catalyst | FsckIt: which version of qt -dev are you running? |
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| 02:43.48 | sussudio | i don't know why this digital camera says 60-120cm for closeup mode. it appears to do 20-30cm just fine: http://home.wanadoo.nl/sussudio/IRC.jpg |
| 02:43.51 | Klipper | well, i will try to get the rest from here |
| 02:43.56 | FsckIt | catalyst: I'm not.. it's just that that what the error sounded like |
| 02:43.57 | Klipper | THANK YOU ALL! |
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| 02:44.52 | niaht_ | FsckIt: Login as Administrator, or any other samba login created using the smbldap- tools is possible on win98 (workgroup mode naturally).. |
| 02:45.47 | niaht_ | Or NT in workgroup mode with the user/pass combo present locally. |
| 02:46.03 | FsckIt | niaht_: so, you are trying to add a win98 machine? and not as a domain, but only as a workgroup? |
| 02:46.29 | scarynetworkguy | sussudio: nice |
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| 02:46.55 | sussudio | scarynetworkguy: i wasn't kidding when someone asked how to make a screenshot and i said "Digital Camera" a while back. |
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| 02:47.14 | scarynetworkguy | sussudio: that is one way to do it. What camera was that? |
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| 02:47.44 | sussudio | scarynetworkguy: fuji q1, relatively cheapo thing |
| 02:47.45 | FsckIt | niaht_: or I guess. which OS/mode isn't working? |
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| 02:48.19 | scarynetworkguy | sussudio: wow. Pretty damn good for the money |
| 02:48.36 | sussudio | scarynetworkguy: 50 euro on sale. the fuji site still says 139 euro. |
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| 02:49.12 | cafuego | catalyst: The problem is that you're trying to run xconfig. Use menuconfig. |
| 02:49.24 | scarynetworkguy | sussudio: pretty sweet deal |
| 02:49.28 | dessaix|zz | ok almost there, how can i set my debian to load snd-intel8x0" by default. i have removed i810audio and the intel8x0m |
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| 02:49.37 | catalyst | FsckIt: Ok...I know why, current qt3 dev packages is broken :) |
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| 02:49.44 | locsmif | hi, I want to try out the in.ftpd daemon that comes with debian. I've got it to run when spawned from inetd, but only when spawned root. When I spawn it from inetd as "ftp", it fails login of user ftp or anonymous with error 530 Login incorrect. |
| 02:49.48 | locsmif | hi, I want to try out the in.ftpd daemon that comes with debian. I've got it to run when spawned from inetd, but only when spawned root. When I spawn it from inetd as "ftp", it fails login of user ftp or anonymous with error 530 Login incorrect. |
| 02:49.57 | locsmif | sorry for the double folks :( |
| 02:49.59 | catalyst | cafuego: yeah! I shouldn't dist-upgrade today :) |
| 02:50.07 | sussudio | scarynetworkguy: you're pretty much screwed with any of these digital camera's internal memory though. this one had a 'hefty' 8MB, some have only 2MB... i got a 128MB xD card for it. |
| 02:50.12 | AbeL | hi, how the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 i'ts not works? |
| 02:50.20 | sussudio | !confuse AbeL |
| 02:50.21 | dpkg | no, those was your gouda yesterday, AbeL? by order of the monarchy of tahiti with extra cream |
| 02:50.24 | thomas_adam | AbeL: Cain? |
| 02:50.41 | deadcat | i just inserted my usb memory stick and dmesg shows this: usb 1-2: device not accepting address 3, error -84 |
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| 02:50.44 | sussudio | AbeL: AbeL AbeL AbeL mushroom mushroom |
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| 02:50.48 | scarynetworkguy | sussudio: yea back when I bought mine the first thing I had to do was get a new card for it |
| 02:50.57 | AbeL | thomas_adam: no.. I'm Abel :P |
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| 02:51.09 | cafuego | deadcat: yeah, the kernel doesn't like sony. |
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| 02:51.19 | thomas_adam | AbeL: You're definitely something, aye. |
| 02:51.23 | deadcat | cafuego: lexar |
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| 02:51.30 | cafuego | deadcat: No, sony IP. |
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| 02:51.40 | AbeL | :( |
| 02:51.41 | deadcat | cafuego: IP? |
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| 02:51.47 | cafuego | Oh, you mean usb key, not memory stick. |
| 02:51.54 | xam | sussudio: I just got a 256MB compact flash for my digital camera (max. resolution 1152x900) last week. Can now make/store >900 picture, instead of only 13 (4MB Compact Flash) |
| 02:52.05 | deadcat | cafuego: oh.. ya. usb thumb drive. |
| 02:52.30 | sussudio | xam: i think i can store about 1500 in 640x480 |
| 02:52.38 | jpablo | anybody knows if apt-proxy can automatically actualize the packages it has cached ? |
| 02:52.41 | niaht_ | FsckIt: Specifically Windows 2000/XP domain member mode, joining Samba in security=user mode (as is perscribed in the samba docs, security=domain is depriciated) |
| 02:53.28 | FsckIt | niaht_:ok, so what do the logs say? |
| 02:53.50 | sussudio | 1600F: 187, 1600N: 374, 1280: 740, 640: 1480 |
| 02:53.57 | dessaix|zz | how can i tell my debian to load my soundcard, the module is already loaded but "cat /proc/asound/cards" its telling me no soundcards . any help would be greatly appreciated |
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| 02:54.18 | sussudio | cafuego: komt die met een kruiwagen? |
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| 02:55.01 | ugly | dessaix|zz: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/ - locate your card in the soundcard matrix, then click "details" for instructions specific to the card |
| 02:55.15 | niaht_ | FsckIt: That the computer account is added sucessfully, then that it already exists, then that it can't add to passdb.tbd, then it goes on chatting about netlogon and registry entries.. there are no major failures to speak of, and it does indeed create the machine account. |
| 02:55.26 | ElSebas | what Kernel version support SATA? |
| 02:55.42 | ugly | dessaix|zz: you'll end up adding a number of things to a file in /etc/modutils, then updating with 'update-modules' |
| 02:55.45 | niaht_ | FsckIt: I'm in full debug mode BTW.. lots to look at. |
| 02:55.47 | T_VoiD | dondelelcaro: was in a makefile there was a shell command: "read" without arg (and in bash that means "read REPLY" when you could put "read REPLY" in all cases, sometimes it's so stupid) |
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| 02:56.29 | Lunchbox | hey guys, just installed debian on this box and am left with a pretty bare os at the moment... it presented post install the option to select which packages id like to have installed, i cancelled that because i was going to be apt-get'ing them from an HTTP and i wanted to change it to unstable. is there a menu where i can go back and select what i want installed? |
| 02:57.01 | ugly | Lunchbox: aptitude / dselect / tasksel |
| 02:57.08 | Lunchbox | ty |
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| 02:58.08 | FsckIt | niaht_: I guess maybe paste (some of) it to #flood.... I don't know how much help I'll be, though |
| 02:59.03 | dondelelcaro | T_VoiD: typical. |
| 02:59.43 | niaht_ | FsckIt: I'm in process building a fresh w2k box.. I will set the debug level a little lower to get rid of some of the trash (making sure relivant errors are present) and paste it up if you are still around. Thanks for offering to help, I do appriciate it. |
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| 03:00.25 | kagemajin | Lunchbox: there's no need for the menus. you can run either tasksel or dpkg at the console. or just edit /etc/apt/sources.list and use the unstable repositories. |
| 03:00.27 | ugly | ElSebas: don't msg me - ask questions in the chan |
| 03:00.28 | niaht_ | FsckIt: I'd hate to paste over 900 lines even to #flood :) |
| 03:00.33 | kozan | where can I find the open source version of sourceforge? |
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| 03:00.45 | ElSebas | what Kernel version support SATA? |
| 03:00.49 | FsckIt | niaht_: yeah.. also, before you do that.. look at the ldap logs.. do you see anything out of place there? |
| 03:00.59 | dondelelcaro | Lunchbox: you probably should stay with testing though, if you don't already know how to upgrade to unstable... |
| 03:01.02 | kagemajin | ElSebas: 2.4.26 and above. |
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| 03:01.08 | brian | how do i add a user? |
| 03:01.13 | ugly | brian: man adduser |
| 03:01.15 | dondelelcaro | Lunchbox: just run tasksel, aptitude, or dselect to select packages. |
| 03:01.18 | ElSebas | thanks kagemajin |
| 03:01.33 | deadcat | cafuego: dammit. one of my usb connector? doesnt respect my thumb drive (= |
| 03:01.39 | FsckIt | niaht_: before you leave, I meant.. not paste the 900 lines :-) |
| 03:02.24 | ElSebas | what Kernel version is included in the install sistem of DEbian 3 |
| 03:02.28 | ElSebas | ? |
| 03:02.32 | FsckIt | niaht_: be sure to see what prefix samba is using, especially on lookup (ou=People or ou=Hosts or what) |
| 03:02.43 | dondelelcaro | ElSebas: 2.4.25 and 2.6.7 iirc. |
| 03:02.51 | niaht_ | FsckIt: :) Yeah, I'm running ldap in debug mode too.. I'm in process parsing that.. (as well as mid-way through an attempt with (by * write) just to be sure I didn't screw up the permissions. |
| 03:03.09 | dondelelcaro | s/25/26/ |
| 03:03.25 | niaht_ | FsckIt: *nods* I'll be sure to check the prefixes all the way around. |
| 03:03.47 | ElSebas | Its posible to install DEbian 3 directly in a SATA drive? |
| 03:03.53 | dondelelcaro | ElSebas: yes. |
| 03:04.06 | FsckIt | niaht_: yeah.. (actually, I think they are suffixes, but yeah) |
| 03:04.09 | niaht_ | FsckIt: Although I thnk that part is ok since user/machine creation works fine, as well as login from workgroup mode machines. |
| 03:04.14 | dondelelcaro | ElSebas: well, Debian 3.1 actually... which is what I thought you were asking about. |
| 03:04.18 | kagemajin | ElSebas: debian 3.0 is woody... sarge is 3.1 (if i;m not mistaken) |
| 03:04.30 | niaht_ | FsckIt: Right.. suffixes.. I'm with ya :) |
| 03:04.37 | dondelelcaro | ElSebas: if you want to install woody, you'll need to build a custom boot disk to install on an SATA device. |
| 03:05.14 | shoq | would anyone recommend using sarge (when it's released as stable) with kernel 2.6.* on servers? |
| 03:05.14 | niaht_ | ou=Computers,dc=my,dc=domain,dc=com - ou=People,dc=my,dc=domain,dc=com and such :) |
| 03:05.35 | ugly | shoq: sarge yes, 2.6.x no |
| 03:05.37 | FsckIt | niaht_: well, in any case, the ldap logs have (or could be configured to have) each query it answers, so you should be able to see exactly what samba is seeing at each point in the exchange |
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| 03:05.50 | dondelelcaro | shoq: I'd suggest sticking with 2.4 unless you have a specific reason to use 2.6 |
| 03:06.12 | FsckIt | niaht_: there's probably just one place where it isn't issuing the right query at the right time |
| 03:06.16 | ElSebas | when the boot disk start de system, what program of the debian 3 CD I must run to start de install program? |
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| 03:06.18 | ugly | shoq: I say no to 2.6.x mainly because the developers are not developing a separate beta/unstable kernel branch anymore - adding new stuff right into 2.6.x |
| 03:06.32 | shoq | dondelelcaro: only two reasons that i can think of right now are sata drives and having an easier upgrade path in the future |
| 03:06.36 | dondelelcaro | ugly: although, they've been adding new stuff to 2.4 as well... |
| 03:06.42 | shoq | ugly: true |
| 03:07.04 | ugly | dondelelcaro: then what was all the controversy about on slashdot? :) |
| 03:07.09 | PetrifiedSap | hurm... I have two network cards, and I'm behind a router, I just need to set up internet connection sharing... where should I look? I'm looking at the network configuration guide page now... |
| 03:07.11 | dondelelcaro | shoq: this is Debian! ;-) Your upgrade path is rather straightforward for kernel versions... and 2.4.26 supports SATA iirc... |
| 03:07.18 | dondelelcaro | ugly: that's slashdot. |
| 03:07.19 | shoq | ugly: i'm hoping the debian 2.6 kernel package maintainers will keep all the other patches out except for security related ones |
| 03:07.24 | ugly | dondelelcaro: heh |
| 03:07.28 | PetrifiedSap | internet connection sharing for one layer deeper... |
| 03:07.39 | dondelelcaro | shoq: yes, the official 2.6 kernel in stable will only have security changes... |
| 03:07.52 | shoq | yup that's why i was considering it |
| 03:07.56 | PetrifiedSap | I don't need.. well. I should worry about firewall, but I just need to allow the computers behind this computer to connect out |
| 03:07.57 | FsckIt | niaht_: and be sure that when the account is created, it has all the required schema (sambaSamAccount or so) |
| 03:07.58 | shoq | otherwise i wouldnt even think of it |
| 03:08.05 | ugly | hmm neat |
| 03:08.07 | niaht_ | FsckIt: slapd -d 1 is pretty verbose.. |
| 03:08.15 | ugly | dondelelcaro: that goes for the source packages as well? |
| 03:08.24 | dondelelcaro | shoq: yeah, I'm just slightly concerned with 2.6's stability... but if you're running something that'll benifit from 2.6, then go ahead and use it. |
| 03:08.30 | dondelelcaro | ugly: in stable, yes. |
| 03:08.35 | FsckIt | niaht_: well, I meant just running without -d 1, and looking under /var/log |
| 03:08.37 | ugly | dondelelcaro: ah |
| 03:08.44 | ElSebas | when the boot disk start de system, what program of the debian 3 CD I must run to start de install program? |
| 03:08.48 | dondelelcaro | ugly: since the kernel source package is what actually is used to build the kernels... |
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| 03:09.03 | dondelelcaro | ElSebas: uh, the installer starts automagically. |
| 03:09.29 | niaht_ | FsckIt: Yep, all accounts are created with sambaSAMAccount objectclass (including Administrator) |
| 03:09.38 | PetrifiedSap | and... right under the section where I set up the internet config.. ther WAS the stuff I needed.. I just missed it. |
| 03:09.48 | ElSebas | dondelelcaro: what is the best way to create the boot disk? |
| 03:09.54 | dondelelcaro | ElSebas: with dd |
| 03:10.08 | FsckIt | niaht_: well, just be sure that samba is filtering on (objectClass=sambaSAMAccount), then :-) |
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| 03:10.29 | ElSebas | dondelelcaro: thanks for your help! |
| 03:10.42 | niaht_ | FsckIt: Yep.. (&(objectClass=sambaSamAccount)(uid=%u)) |
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| 03:11.00 | deadcat | whats this mean when i try to mount my usb thumbdrive? FAT: codepage cp437 not found |
| 03:11.03 | deadcat | Unable to load NLS charset cp437 |
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| 03:11.08 | samuel | dpkg tell me about courier-imap |
| 03:11.20 | mith | deadcat: exactly what it says |
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| 03:11.29 | FsckIt | niaht_: be sure that the difference in capitalization doesn't make a difference |
| 03:11.30 | deadcat | mith: i know. what i dont know what that is. |
| 03:11.38 | niaht_ | FsckIt: Unless I set loglevel in slapd.conf higher than 0 (1 seems to be same as -d 1) I don't seem to get any logs for ldap in /var/log |
| 03:12.00 | niaht_ | FsckIt: Testing with ldapsearch the caps make no difference in the output. |
| 03:12.03 | FsckIt | niaht_: oh , ok |
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| 03:12.52 | locsmif | Has anyone set up the netkit ftp server(in.ftpd) succesfully as a normal user? I get as far as giving an email address for anonymous, then it gives me 530 Login incorrect. syslog shows : Aug 16 04:34:06 troy ftpd[17855]: control bind: Permission denied |
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| 03:12.57 | expose | hi |
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| 03:13.23 | expose | someone able to tell me if the frame of cups test page should be cloused all around, or if it is open at the buttom |
| 03:13.25 | locsmif | It works when spawned as root however, but we do not want that if at all possible, do we ;) |
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| 03:13.44 | shoq | locsmif: this is almost unrelated but i would suggest going with pure-ftpd |
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| 03:14.02 | ElSebas | dondelelcaro: what site do you recomend me to download the correct files to create de boot disk? |
| 03:14.11 | shoq | works great for me, awesome security record, virtual users, the works |
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| 03:14.24 | dondelelcaro | ElSebas: uh, $(pwd) ? |
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| 03:14.38 | locsmif | shoq, I know, I could take anyone of proftpd, pureftpd, vsftpd ... |
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| 03:15.34 | ElSebas | dondelelcaro: from what I can download the correct files to create de boot disk to start the system and install DEbian 3 in the SATA drive? |
| 03:15.59 | dondelelcaro | ElSebas: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
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| 03:16.12 | locsmif | But I am so close to getting it work, and I want to know if it's at all possible, just to be able to setup the netkit ftp server. |
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| 03:16.48 | CarlosOlivaG4 | how do I remove the 'Debian' menu from the gnome Applications menu? |
| 03:16.58 | locsmif | It's a minor permission problem, however the netkit ftp server is so crappy it's logging/debugging features suck too, lol |
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| 03:17.38 | dondelelcaro | CarlosOlivaG4: odds are you actually want that, but whatever. There's a gnome menu editor in the settings menu iirc. |
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| 03:18.13 | shoq | locsmif: that's prolly good enough reason to not use it ;) |
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| 03:18.25 | niaht_ | FsckIt: loglevel 768 (or -d768) seems to be a good log level for just seeing the ldap queries and results |
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| 03:18.53 | FsckIt | niaht_: ok, it's been a little while since I've done the ldap thing |
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| 03:18.57 | niaht_ | log levels are additive it seems.. nice.. |
| 03:19.08 | niaht_ | FsckIt: me too.. been too long. |
| 03:19.14 | expose | do ppd files store *all* printer specific information? |
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| 03:19.25 | locsmif | shoq, it prolly is, I just hoped there was some light at the end of this tunnel...or maybe it's a train coming ;) |
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| 03:20.31 | sussudio | locsmif: it's a train and it wants to run you over for using an AOL-like nickname |
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| 03:21.26 | locsmif | sussudio, yeah, AOL, dat hebben we hier niet sukkel. |
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| 03:21.49 | baked | Anyone able to create a boot disk to load the modules for a VT8237 RAID controller for debian install with 2.4 kernel? |
| 03:21.58 | sussudio | locsmif: kneus |
| 03:22.33 | locsmif | !dutch |
| 03:22.33 | dpkg | from memory, dutch is soome straangje laanguaage daat sussudio kjeeps spjeeaaking, or #debian.nl, lei mangia delle tartarughe marcie |
| 03:22.59 | FsckIt | niaht_: well, I need to go.. good luck, and read the logs :-) |
| 03:23.14 | baked | anyone running a SATA hd right now? |
| 03:23.18 | niaht_ | FsckIt: :) Thanks! Have a good night |
| 03:23.57 | Lunchbox | hey guys, trying to setup masquerading on a fresh install... When trying to load the module "ipt_MASQUERADE" it says it cannot be found, what should i do? |
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| 03:24.38 | Xenguy | Lunchbox: considered Shorewall firewall? |
| 03:24.48 | Lunchbox | ive got no idea what that is |
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| 03:25.43 | Xenguy | Lunchbox: it's a firewall script that handles IP Masquerade/NAT also |
| 03:25.55 | Xenguy | just an idea |
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| 03:25.59 | baked | Anyone able to create disk to load the modules for a VT8237 RAID controller for debian install with 2.4 kernel? |
| 03:26.23 | locsmif | argh.. no choice but to let the netkit ftp server idea go ;) prolly for the best too. thanks for the help shoq. |
| 03:26.35 | shoq | np |
| 03:26.50 | Lunchbox | ahh k kewl |
| 03:26.53 | shoq | sorry for the lack of suggestions.. i dont use that ftp server |
| 03:27.03 | Lunchbox | u can only have one instance of apt-get open at a time huh? |
| 03:27.20 | Xenguy | Lunchbox: AFAIK, yes |
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| 03:29.25 | dessaix|zz | how can i completely remove a module? im tying to remove 2 sound moduels using rmmod but they come back whenever i reboot |
| 03:29.57 | ugly | dessaix|zz: the alsa init scripts are causing them to be loaded |
| 03:30.13 | locsmif | shoq, well freenode uses pureFTPd, because it has reputation for being exploit free, iirc |
| 03:30.16 | Xenguy | dessaix|zz: checked /etc/modules ? |
| 03:30.17 | locsmif | <a> |
| 03:30.29 | ugly | dessaix|zz: (that or what Xenguy said ;)) |
| 03:30.38 | niaht_ | Lunchbox: Yes, it needs to lock the dpkg database files. Otherwise you could get into some very sticky situations with dependancies if say you were installing package A that required a newer version of package B than you were installing with the 'other' instance of APT. |
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| 03:31.48 | shoq | locsmif: that and the ability to use virtual users is a big plus for me.. http://www.pureftpd.org/README.Virtual-Users |
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| 03:31.58 | mikeshouse2004 | hello all... |
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| 03:32.10 | Cuga | Hey how can i make a scripts, or from a CML, spawn a new term and execute a program on that new term? |
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| 03:33.01 | mikeshouse2004 | looking to make a script to compile a program for me... |
| 03:33.05 | ugly | Cuga: many terms take the '-e' argument or similar that lets you execute a command from that term - read the man page |
| 03:33.09 | dessaix|zz | Xenguy: im trying to configure my sound card. i edited "/etc/modules.conf" but i think im also supposed to add the snd changes to the an alsa files? which one is it |
| 03:33.24 | mikeshouse2004 | ..a script that does qmake Makefile etc, make, and then ./program name |
| 03:33.26 | ugly | dessaix|zz: don't edit modules.conf - that file is made dynamically |
| 03:33.26 | Cuga | ugly: Thanks bud thats what i needed |
| 03:33.34 | peterS | dessaix|zz: the simple thing to do is just add the modules in question to /etc/modules and don't worry about any alsa-specific crap |
| 03:33.40 | Xenguy | dessaix|zz: I haven't crossed the alsa bridge yet ;-) |
| 03:34.06 | peterS | dessaix|zz: just the chip-specific module, plus snd-pcm-oss, are enough to specify - the rest are loaded automatically by those two |
| 03:34.09 | T_VoiD | dessaix|zz: anyways in debian you have to edit files in /etc/modutils/ not directly /etc/modules.conf (then you run update-modules). else your changes will be lost |
| 03:35.01 | dessaix|zz | peterS: just do "editor /etc/modules" and type whatever i have here ? |
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| 03:35.22 | peterS | dessaix|zz: yeah, just list those two module names in /etc/modules, that's it |
| 03:35.28 | qtp | Is it possible to establish a Freenet6 tunnel from a machine behind NAT that has private (non-routable) IPv4 address? If not, are there tunnel brokers with which this can be acheived (Hurricane Electric?) |
| 03:35.40 | dessaix|zz | alright hold on |
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| 03:36.17 | dissected | hello |
| 03:36.25 | qtp | Is there a channel that deals specifically with IPv6? |
| 03:36.47 | peterS | qtp: not that I know of. this channel might be as good as any |
| 03:36.47 | dissected | dont know |
| 03:37.14 | sussudio | qtp: guess what it's called. |
| 03:37.14 | ugly | qtp: you can get a tunnel behind a router if you are able to port forward |
| 03:37.22 | ugly | qtp: at least according to singnet's tutorial |
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| 03:37.55 | dissected | anyone here use debugfs? |
| 03:37.59 | qtp | peterS: thx, thats what I thought. |
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| 03:38.26 | locsmif | shoq, pureFTPd seems like a very cool package indeed |
| 03:38.26 | dissected | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:38.35 | qtp | sussudio: thx, found it. |
| 03:38.41 | ugly | qtp: http://tunnel-broker.singnet.com.sg/faq.html#2.4 |
| 03:39.09 | qtp | ugly: thx, reading it now. |
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| 03:39.33 | niaht_ | dissected: unlikely. ext mostly works very well. |
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| 03:39.54 | dissected | niaht_: thats what it's doing |
| 03:40.12 | niaht_ | dissected: what are you trying to use it for? |
| 03:40.17 | T_VoiD | ugly: http://freenet6.net/ does it too |
| 03:40.20 | dessaix|zz | peterS: ok i added "snd-intel8x0" and did update-modules |
| 03:40.38 | dissected | niaht_: I'm trying to undelete some files |
| 03:40.40 | peterS | dessaix|zz: add "snd-pcm-oss" as well. and update-modules isn't needed for that file |
| 03:41.00 | T_VoiD | ugly: forget it I didn't read the 1st question heh |
| 03:41.03 | peterS | dessaix|zz: if you load snd-intel8x0 and snd-pcm-oss, the rest of the needed alsa modules are pulled in automatically |
| 03:41.33 | niaht_ | dissected: very difficult. If *anything* has written over any portion of the space previously used by that inode, ext2_lookup won't be able to find it AFAIK. |
| 03:41.44 | bibleboy | Evilpig, you there? |
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| 03:42.06 | dissected | niaht_: hmm |
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| 03:42.10 | dessaix|zz | peterS: alright done, do i need to restart ? |
| 03:42.14 | dissected | niaht_: it doesnt mention that in this howto |
| 03:42.21 | dissected | niaht_: oh well |
| 03:42.21 | peterS | dessaix|zz: no, just load those modules with 'modprobe' |
| 03:42.29 | peterS | dessaix|zz: as in: modprobe snd-intel8x0; modprobe snd-pcm-oss |
| 03:42.51 | peterS | dessaix|zz: next time you boot, this will be done for you, but for now, you can do it yourself, like that |
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| 03:43.42 | mboso | if you have "user" |
| 03:43.49 | mboso | sorry, premature |
| 03:44.22 | dessaix|zz | when i do lsmod its still using snd-intel8x0m and i810_audio |
| 03:44.41 | mboso | if you have "user" as one of the options in /etc/fstab for mounting a smbfs shouldn't a regular user be able to mount said service? |
| 03:44.49 | mboso | for some reason i can only do it as root |
| 03:45.30 | peterS | mboso: smbfs isn't like other filesystems - you need to authenticate with the server, with a username / domain / password. if these aren't hard-coded into /etc/fstab, the user will need to know them |
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| 03:46.22 | mboso | peter: I have "credentials=<file>" specified. is that not enough? apparently not. |
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| 03:46.33 | mboso | so it has to be IN fstab? |
| 03:46.36 | peterS | mboso: does the user have permission to read that file? |
| 03:47.30 | mboso | peterS: with the username and password i'm supplying with the credential file. yes. should be full access |
| 03:47.53 | peterS | mboso: if the user can read that file, then I don't see why the mount command wouldn't work for a user |
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| 03:48.05 | peterS | mboso: you verified that it *does* work as root? |
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| 03:48.20 | R4F | hi all |
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| 03:48.26 | R4F | <R4F> i've got a wierd question : is it possible to install debian on ntfs partions ? |
| 03:48.28 | R4F | :D |
| 03:48.31 | mboso | peterS : yep. i'm looking at the share right now. its windows mount from my network |
| 03:48.36 | peterS | R4F: not entirely, no |
| 03:48.44 | R4F | u mean ? |
| 03:48.48 | peterS | R4F: ntfs doesn't have symbolic links, but more importantly, it doesn't have device nodes |
| 03:48.50 | R4F | not entirely ? |
| 03:48.51 | ugly | peterS: entirely? shouldn't that be "not at all"? |
| 03:48.54 | R4F | ha ok |
| 03:48.57 | R4F | thx peters |
| 03:48.58 | R4F | :) |
| 03:49.20 | mboso | peterS : I can only mount as root. but i can browse the files as a regular user once its been mounted |
| 03:49.25 | peterS | R4F: also, while ntfs has file permissions / owners, the Linux ntfs driver does not make use of these at all |
| 03:49.25 | ugly | peterS: afaik there's no write support for NTFS w/o some kind of wine layer |
| 03:49.35 | R4F | ha ok |
| 03:49.38 | fooz | ugly |
| 03:49.39 | R4F | so it's useless |
| 03:49.40 | R4F | :D |
| 03:49.42 | peterS | ugly: well, there is limited write support nowadays, but only for a few cases |
| 03:49.44 | ugly | zoof: fooz |
| 03:49.45 | niaht_ | ugly: peterS: NTFS write support is in 2.6.? |
| 03:49.49 | comotion | ok, cheers guys I'm back again. Question: what's wrong with using nis and md5 passwords? Stuff I've seen alludes to "problems" without giving details |
| 03:49.57 | peterS | niaht_: also in 2.4.26 or 2.4.27 |
| 03:49.58 | R4F | mboso is asking a good question |
| 03:50.00 | fooz | no, you can get full write support through emulation |
| 03:50.04 | fooz | using the MS drivers |
| 03:50.05 | Nurbs | peterS: one can basically ignore that support, though :) |
| 03:50.09 | niaht_ | peterS: Yes, but I think that is still "Experimental" |
| 03:50.10 | Nurbs | !google captive ntfs |
| 03:50.13 | deta | qtp: I'am root in '/usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.20/fs' and get a 'ls: hfs: Permission denied' after i do a simple ls ??? |
| 03:50.17 | dpkg | Google says captive ntfs is at http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/ or http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/Preview.html.pl or http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/doc/TODO.html.pl or http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/Press.html.pl or http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/doc/ |
| 03:50.20 | Nurbs | niaht_: no, it just is useless. |
| 03:50.29 | niaht_ | Nurbs: lol |
| 03:50.30 | deta | I'am root in '/usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.20/fs' and get a 'ls: hfs: Permission denied' after i do a simple ls ??? |
| 03:50.45 | niaht_ | Nurbs: Never tried it :) Don't want to :D |
| 03:50.52 | Nurbs | niaht_: really. you can only overwrite files of the same files, and even that not in all cases |
| 03:51.03 | Nurbs | of the same size even |
| 03:51.07 | niaht_ | Nurbs: eek |
| 03:51.13 | R4F | do someone succedeed in emulating doom3 ? :D |
| 03:51.29 | Nurbs | niaht_: but it's supposed to be quite stable and not marked experimental X) |
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| 03:52.11 | comotion | deta: is the folder you're in executable? |
| 03:52.26 | peterS | deta: yeah, 'hfs' probably just doesn't have execute permission on it. try this: chmod +x hfs |
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| 03:53.26 | qtp | deta: not sure about that one, I'd guess filesystem corruption. Run fsck. |
| 03:53.45 | ugly | fooz: how about a shell on atari ;) |
| 03:53.46 | deta | comotion: ls -ald gives: drwxr-xr-x 7 root root |
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| 03:54.18 | comotion | deta: then I'd go with qtp and say run fsck |
| 03:54.39 | deta | qtp: i guess, too - so how do i delete that - i was doing an rm anyway |
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| 03:54.46 | fooz | ugly, atari? |
| 03:54.52 | comotion | deta: or faster, backup your .config and untar 2.4.27 which released yesterday |
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| 03:55.17 | T_VoiD | niaht_,ugly: from what I read there's an implementation using userspace server that uses the NT/XP native .DLL (look in google for captive and lufs) |
| 03:55.29 | Nurbs | comotion: 2.4.27 was released more than a week ago |
| 03:55.29 | mboso | is it possible to mount a smbfs as a regular user? |
| 03:55.41 | qtp | deta: you should still be able to delete it, but I wouldn't write or delete anything to that partition until after a filesystem check. |
| 03:55.43 | comotion | Nurbs: hehe, okay then, 2.6.8 ;-) |
| 03:55.52 | shadowplay | Anyone know which kernel fixes the 2.6 iptables exploit http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/367615 |
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| 03:56.02 | Nurbs | comotion: 2.6.8.1 :) |
| 03:56.14 | T_VoiD | niaht_,ugly: and this ntfs implementation allows to do everything (create dirs and so on) |
| 03:56.23 | ugly | fooz: whatever atari.screwage.com is ;) |
| 03:56.27 | peterS | shadowplay: not sure, but there is at least one hole fixed by 2.6.8, which was itself a bit broken for NFS, so you should use 2.6.8.1 |
| 03:56.33 | ugly | T_VoiD: yep |
| 03:56.43 | ugly | T_VoiD: makes use of a WINE emulation layer |
| 03:56.47 | ugly | pretty lame ;) |
| 03:56.50 | T_VoiD | ugly: yep heh |
| 03:56.53 | fooz | ugly, screwage.com is completely down. the only machine was sentri. avatar is on a cable modem and i'm firewalled |
| 03:57.05 | AoKaze | how many disks are needed to get basic GUI running with Gnome and some net tools like xchat and gaim? |
| 03:57.05 | T_VoiD | ugly: perhaps, but it works (tm). not like the kernel one |
| 03:57.06 | ugly | fooz: oh yea, avatar haha |
| 03:57.09 | comotion | ok: NIS + md5 passwords; is there something I should know or can I just go head first? I can't find anything definite about md5 passwords and nis being problematic |
| 03:57.10 | ugly | fooz: that's what I meant ;) |
| 03:57.30 | fooz | ugly, if you want to make suxCox@home unfirewall me, then i will :) |
| 03:57.30 | shadowplay | peterS: thanks |
| 03:57.32 | peterS | comotion: the thing about NIS is that it is portable between different versions of unix |
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| 03:57.44 | peterS | comotion: and most non-Linux versions of Unix don't understand md5 passwords |
| 03:57.51 | ugly | fooz: heh |
| 03:57.58 | comotion | Nurbs: yeah what is that, new minor.minor kernel versioning scheme? |
| 03:58.03 | peterS | comotion: so if you're just doing 100% Linux boxes, you can probably enable md5 passwords with NIS. otherwise you shouldn't |
| 03:58.07 | fooz | ugly, or suggest to me a better isp in las vegas |
| 03:58.12 | Nurbs | comotion: just because it was an important fix |
| 03:58.12 | comotion | peterS: excellent |
| 03:58.17 | croepha|home | wow, where is al my memory going? Mem: 514552k total, 505332k used, 9220k free, 158484k buffers |
| 03:58.17 | croepha|home | Swap: 45320k total, 0k used, 45320k free, 83540k cached |
| 03:58.18 | AoKaze | Question: how many disks are needed to get basic GUI running with Gnome and some net tools like xchat and gaim? |
| 03:58.20 | deta | comotion: thanks |
| 03:58.23 | ugly | fooz: get a T line so we can host a porn server |
| 03:58.23 | Nurbs | comotion: it only contains the NFS fix |
| 03:58.28 | thomas_adam | scarynetworkguy: ping |
| 03:58.28 | deta | qtp: thanks |
| 03:58.32 | fooz | ugly, i have 0 money right now or i would |
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| 03:58.37 | peterS | comotion: if you read the 2.6.8.1 patch, it contains nothing but two very trivial (but important) fixes |
| 03:58.38 | zeeble | AoKaze: how many disks? of what? |
| 03:58.47 | fooz | ugly, i was thinking of SDSL, then making money from it somehow |
| 03:58.48 | AoKaze | Debian disks |
| 03:58.53 | fooz | ugly, my job bagging groceries got in the way though |
| 03:58.56 | ugly | fooz: I can contribute $2.12 - all the money that I have in the world atm ;) |
| 03:59.00 | AoKaze | I know they go up from popular programs |
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| 03:59.19 | comotion | peterS: oh, been so busy I didn't even notice, pulled in 2.6.8 just when it released and hadn't thought about it |
| 03:59.22 | shadowplay | croepha|home: did you try memstat |
| 03:59.28 | ugly | fooz: brb - gotta take out garbage |
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| 03:59.37 | deepfrze | AoKaze, floppy disks? |
| 03:59.37 | peterS | comotion: well, if you don't use NFS, it's no different. the two trivial fixes are both in NFS |
| 03:59.38 | zeeble | AoKaze: you can do that with CD-1. or just the netinstall ISO. just download the one iso, burn to a CD-RW and reboot. install the base, and install the rest of waht you want over the web. |
| 03:59.54 | zeeble | AoKaze: that way, you have to download only what you need. and not a whole CD, or anything |
| 04:00.10 | comotion | peterS: heh, we use NIS extensively on the cluster |
| 04:00.16 | AoKaze | ok |
| 04:00.23 | comotion | peterS: s/nis/nfs |
| 04:00.31 | peterS | right (: |
| 04:00.42 | peterS | then you definitely want to apply 2.6.8.1 to your 2.6.8 |
| 04:01.53 | comotion | heh, trivial indeed |
| 04:02.04 | croepha|home | shadowplay, yea, most of the stuff memstat returns are librarys |
| 04:02.45 | Nurbs | kellogg's clusters seem to be kinda cheap, but I haven't seen a linux port yet |
| 04:02.47 | dessaix|zz | how do i set static ip address at work correctly, im using "iface eth0 inet static" . aside from address,netsmask and network, how do i enter the dns |
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| 04:03.10 | peterS | dessaix|zz: put the DNS in /etc/resolv.conf |
| 04:03.15 | shadowplay | croepha|home: if you're not using any swap, you should be fine i think. Linux will use free memory for buffers, but reallocate it if it's needed for other stuff. the buffers line of free tells you how much memory is used for non-buffer use. |
| 04:03.16 | pir4 | anyone knows how to fix problems for Avermedia (TV-Capture) and tvtime ? |
| 04:03.19 | peterS | dessaix|zz: one line per DNS server, "nameserver w.x.y.z" |
| 04:03.21 | AoKaze | zeeble: that would be great but I have something like a 28.8 connection |
| 04:03.39 | AoKaze | and I am going to a caffe to DL the disks |
| 04:03.43 | zeeble | AoKaze: but you still have to get the ISOs for the CDs, remember? |
| 04:03.53 | dessaix|zz | peterS: ah "nameserver" thank you very much |
| 04:03.54 | zeeble | AoKaze: oh |
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| 04:04.34 | croepha|home | shadowplay, thanks |
| 04:04.46 | comotion | dessaix|zz: You should be able to automagically get the nameserver if you have a gateway at work |
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| 04:05.20 | AoKaze | so I want to DL what I need but not more because more means I pay more for access but too little means I dont have enought for what I want |
| 04:06.05 | dessaix|zz | couldnt get the sound to work today but made tremendous progress. ill be back tomorrow night |
| 04:06.13 | T_VoiD | AoKaze: ask the caffe owner if you can bring your box there haha |
| 04:06.32 | AoKaze | um I am not moveing my box |
| 04:06.36 | nivekz | hello, i can not run locate,"locate: /var/cache/locate/locatedb: No such file or directory". what's wrong? |
| 04:06.52 | zignig | nivekz: updatedb ( as root 0 |
| 04:06.53 | AoKaze | I have 20 serial connections I have to unplug and I dont want to get thoes out of order |
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| 04:07.06 | shadowplay | comotion: automagic dns without using dhcp? |
| 04:07.16 | deepfrze | AoKaze, it might be cheaper to buy the distribution on cd.. |
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| 04:07.33 | shadowplay | nivekz: run updatedb (man it first) |
| 04:07.46 | T_VoiD | nivekz: or run /etc/cron.daily/find . that's what the system does daily (with more options set) |
| 04:08.27 | comotion | shadowplay: I'm not sure, but I seem to recall an instance when configuring static ip's and a gateway would set the right nameservers in resolv.conf |
| 04:08.47 | Viddy | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:08.50 | comotion | in fact, that's my box right now. Either that or the old entries in resolv.conf are just plain still hanging around |
| 04:09.13 | AoKaze | um its actualy more expensive to buy the distro |
| 04:09.15 | T_VoiD | Viddy: iso9660 is a reado only filesystem by design |
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| 04:09.21 | Viddy | it is |
| 04:09.27 | comotion | now that I think about it, latter is more likely ;-)\ |
| 04:09.47 | Viddy | but you can write to it, i have done so in the past |
| 04:09.58 | T_VoiD | Viddy: perhaps UDF then? |
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| 04:10.13 | croepha|home | can someone plsease explain to me what this means: croepha@nilly:/lib/modules/fglrx$ sudo modprobe fglrx |
| 04:10.13 | croepha|home | FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.5/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.ko): Invalid module format |
| 04:11.01 | comotion | croepha|home: it means that you're in the wrong channel :-) |
| 04:11.05 | ugly | zoof: you fooz |
| 04:11.14 | shadowplay | croepha|home: are you running 2.6.5 currently? |
| 04:11.25 | croepha|home | shadowplay, yea |
| 04:11.36 | T_VoiD | Viddy: you can recreate a new iso with mkisofs . you can make multisession cds too (loopback won't handle that) |
| 04:11.37 | croepha|home | and its running |
| 04:11.37 | croepha|home | well |
| 04:12.10 | croepha|home | comotion, what channel should i be in? |
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| 04:12.28 | Viddy | doh |
| 04:12.29 | Viddy | ok |
| 04:12.32 | T_VoiD | Viddy: if you want to really write to a filesystem for CD, use UDF |
| 04:12.45 | Viddy | right |
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| 04:12.58 | comotion | croepha|home: check out http://stanchina.net/~flavio/debian/fglrx-installer.html |
| 04:13.05 | T_VoiD | Viddy: if you wanted to do it live (assuming the kernel supports it, there are issues in 2.4 I think) you need a cd-rw that handles packet writing |
| 04:13.40 | comotion | croepha|home: I got the radeon too, but the FOSS community doesn't usually support closed-source drivers |
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| 04:16.23 | T_VoiD | croepha|home: without the kernel module you lack 3D support (and perhaps xvideo too), else X works |
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| 04:17.28 | gothtec | !+FOSS |
| 04:17.28 | dpkg | i guess foss is Free and Open Source Software |
| 04:17.34 | nivekz | thanks, zignig, shadowplay, T_Void |
| 04:17.44 | T_VoiD | croepha|home: btw, welcome to the sad closed source ati users... i'm one, I regret to have bought an ati, linux supports (from ati) sucks big |
| 04:17.51 | gothtec | hm.. my previous school's name was Foss |
| 04:18.01 | gothtec | they used nt4 tho :/ |
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| 04:18.44 | T_VoiD | croepha|home: right now, i'm running without 3D acceleration: X crashed a few hours ago (without reasons as usual) and the fglrx module stayed "busy" so X restarted without using it |
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| 04:19.03 | bono | Question: I'm having a weird problem under XFree 4.2.1.1 ... I can't lauch terminal windows... When i select Eterm from my enlightenment menu, it briefly appears and disappears without allowing me to enter any key... Any idea? |
| 04:19.24 | daliop | where is a good web help channel? |
| 04:19.46 | ugly | web help??? |
| 04:19.47 | gothtec | bono: try another terminal. and check the menu config to see what it's actually doing when you ask for that terminal to appear |
| 04:19.51 | arpanekis | @chanserv |
| 04:19.52 | ravenbird | it has been said that chanserv is that drunk motherfucker always sitting over there in the corner mastubating to pictures of Macke's Mom. |
| 04:19.52 | ugly | like how to use a browser? :PP |
| 04:20.01 | ugly | "point and teh click" |
| 04:20.05 | daliop | no like html |
| 04:20.22 | daliop | and psd |
| 04:20.25 | Lunchbox | whats the command to choose which window manager u want to start with x? |
| 04:20.27 | daliop | conversion |
| 04:20.40 | shadowplay | bono: step 0: run eterm (or xterm) from the cli. You can set your DISPLAY env to :0 or :1 to specify the display |
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| 04:20.54 | shadowplay | bono: that way you'll see error msgs if there are any |
| 04:20.59 | daliop | thank you chanserv |
| 04:21.07 | T_VoiD | bono: could be a script (like bashrc and alike) that fails? |
| 04:21.31 | gothtec | T_VoiD: would that really crash the terminal? |
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| 04:22.10 | ugly | Lunchbox: how do you start X? startx or k|g|xdm? |
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| 04:22.18 | T_VoiD | gothtec: no unless there's exit in it heh |
| 04:22.21 | shadowplay | gothtec: i've had it happen. if, for example there is an exit statement somewhere, bash quits, and so does the terminat |
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| 04:22.44 | IsraelB | i have a error |
| 04:22.48 | IsraelB | dpkg -i --force-all -E -O -G cpp-3.3_1%3a3.3.4-9_i386.deb |
| 04:22.53 | sussudio | @factinfo chanserv |
| 04:22.54 | ravenbird | sussudio: there's no such factoid as chanserv |
| 04:23.01 | IsraelB | dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) |
| 04:23.04 | Lunchbox | i know how to start X, but whenever i type startx it presents me with a black and white check screen with a black x for a cursor, or just black |
| 04:23.16 | IsraelB | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:23.16 | IsraelB | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 04:23.16 | IsraelB | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:23.21 | T_VoiD | bono: what about: xterm -e sleep 99 ? |
| 04:23.23 | ugly | Lunchbox: yes, I'm basing my answer on how you start X ..... |
| 04:23.30 | ugly | Lunchbox: cause it depends on that |
| 04:23.30 | T_VoiD | bono: what about: (or -e /bin/sleep 99 ) |
| 04:23.34 | IsraelB | i need for help |
| 04:23.54 | shadowplay | Lunchbox: put some commands into an ~/.xinitrc file (like to start a display manager) |
| 04:24.26 | Loof | Heya |
| 04:24.43 | Loof | anyone here gotten the madwifi driver working under 2.6.x? |
| 04:24.59 | sussudio | ... |
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| 04:25.04 | Lunchbox | like what? I'm used to using slackware where you can just type xwmconfig and switch betweent hem |
| 04:25.05 | bono | T_VoiD: i dont have a terminal to launch it under X! :-) |
| 04:25.13 | sussudio | !listauth James` |
| 04:25.13 | dpkg | factoid author list by 'James`' (12 shown): ping pong ;; beer and tits ;; richard simmons ;; poopsex ;; crabs ;; dyke ;; pfft ;; cte ;; homotropolis ;; tuff_box ;; macke ;; okay. |
| 04:25.29 | T_VoiD | bono: like shadow said: from a console. DISPLAY=:0 xterm -e /sbin/sleep 99 |
| 04:25.30 | gothtec | dpkg -i a cookie |
| 04:25.33 | gothtec | :D |
| 04:25.43 | bono | shadowplay: the :0 server is rejecting the client... must be a config issue... |
| 04:25.43 | T_VoiD | oups |
| 04:25.55 | T_VoiD | that was like gothtec maybe |
| 04:25.57 | sussudio | blah. someone else can purge James` craptoids from the bots. |
| 04:26.01 | T_VoiD | too lazy to scroll back |
| 04:26.07 | qtp | Lunchbox: check your default x-window-manager in /etc/alternatives. It should be a link to your prefered windpow manager. read "man update-alternatives" |
| 04:26.31 | IsraelB | hiii |
| 04:26.33 | gothtec | T_VoiD: huh? |
| 04:26.44 | sussudio | dondelelcaro: when you read this, please delete all factoids by James` from dpkg, apt, ravenbird. the bots always whine at me when i delete multiple factoids. |
| 04:26.46 | T_VoiD | gothtec: bah never mind haha |
| 04:27.02 | nivekz | problem, there is no i810_audio driver in my /lib/modules/2.6.7-1-686, but i need it for my sound. how can i do? I have the driver in kernel 2.4 |
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| 04:27.10 | IsraelB | i need install the package |
| 04:27.12 | IsraelB | dpkg -i --force-all -E -O -G cpp-3.3_1%3a3.3.4-9_i386.deb |
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| 04:27.27 | navairum | hey, how can i get my system to boot into command line, not into KDER |
| 04:27.30 | navairum | *KDE |
| 04:27.48 | shadowplay | bono: yeah, it works for me DISPLAY=":0" xterm from the console |
| 04:27.54 | gothtec | IsraelB: What is your question? |
| 04:28.17 | nivekz | sorry, i find /lib/modules/2.6.7-1-686/kernel/sound/oss/i810_audio.ko, but can not find it in modconf |
| 04:28.27 | IsraelB | gothtec dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) |
| 04:28.27 | IsraelB | dpkg: error processing cpp-3.3_1%3a3.3.4-9_i386.deb (--install): |
| 04:28.27 | dpkg | no idea, IsraelB |
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| 04:28.33 | nivekz | where to find it or add it? |
| 04:29.02 | samuel | anyone here familiar with balsa? how can you change the locations of the local folders? |
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| 04:29.09 | shadowplay | navairum: edit /etc/inittab and specify 3 for the default runlevel |
| 04:29.30 | gothtec | IsraelB: try apt-get |
| 04:29.36 | IsraelB | gothtec i need install of package because of apt-get upgrade |
| 04:29.39 | navairum | ok thanks, is there a way to remove kde, cuz its taking up valuable space |
| 04:29.45 | T_VoiD | IsraelB: sure there's not the file giving the problem above? if i chattr +i something i'm sure i'd get this error for example |
| 04:29.51 | IsraelB | gothtec i dont have fun |
| 04:30.32 | gothtec | IsraelB: apt-get upgrade is not supposed to be very fun.. but don't install packages manually that are already in apt-get unless you specifically need that exact version... |
| 04:30.34 | nivekz | sorry again, i find it at last, :$ |
| 04:31.04 | IsraelB | You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these. |
| 04:31.04 | IsraelB | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 04:31.04 | IsraelB | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:31.04 | IsraelB | E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f. |
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| 04:31.46 | gothtec | ... |
| 04:31.54 | gothtec | he just sent me his entire syslog |
| 04:31.56 | gothtec | in msg |
| 04:31.59 | gothtec | :/ |
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| 04:33.36 | shadowplay | navairum: There might be a virtual package for kde that you can remove... i'm not sure. you can also see what pkgs depend on kde-base |
| 04:33.59 | Loof | The madwifi drivers keep giving an 'invalid kernel module' error :P |
| 04:34.14 | navairum | i ususally use gentoo, so im not use to the debian stuff |
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| 04:34.54 | shadowplay | navairum: yeah me too. :-) It's nice not having to wait for compiles. |
| 04:35.02 | navairum | haha |
| 04:35.15 | navairum | whats teh comamand to see if i can remove it? |
| 04:35.35 | shadowplay | navairum: i use aptitude which is a curses front-end for package management |
| 04:35.39 | Loof | shadow: Wait for compiles? /w Gentoo... that's all you are doin... |
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| 04:36.25 | T_VoiD | navairum: if you remove kdelibs* (so kdelibs4) you should remove all kde, but would also remove not really kde programs supporting kde. that would at least give you a list (then hit ctrl-c) |
| 04:36.29 | streuner | navairum: man apt-get |
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| 04:36.45 | streuner | navairum: /list #debian-kde and read it |
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| 04:37.12 | Loof | nava: Have you run the madwifi drivers? |
| 04:37.17 | navairum | ... |
| 04:37.19 | navairum | um |
| 04:37.20 | navairum | no? |
| 04:37.21 | navairum | lol |
| 04:37.56 | navairum | thanks for the link |
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| 04:38.15 | T_VoiD | when dpkg (the bot) returns a too big list to fit all in the answer, how can you browse past the start? |
| 04:39.02 | navairum | thanks guys |
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| 04:40.20 | shadowplay | Loof: once you have your system set up the way you like it's not so bad. <shrug>. I still think ports/portage are my favorite package managers... |
| 04:40.56 | Loof | Better than apt? |
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| 04:41.35 | T_VoiD | oh ok just redo the same command heh |
| 04:43.15 | shadowplay | Loof: i'm still on the learning curve in debian. but apt is pretty good. I actually downgraded from unstable to testing without any but minor problems. That was impressive. |
| 04:44.19 | streuner | !downgrade |
| 04:44.19 | dpkg | rumour has it, downgrade is not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later. If you find you want to try going from unstable/testing => stable, then read http://www.debianplanet.org/node.php?id=880 or The Debian Reference Section 6.2.7, or http://people.debian.org/~osamu/downgrade.html |
| 04:45.05 | streuner | shadowplay: apt have serveral other advantages, if you could downgrade its luck - not more... |
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| 04:46.11 | shadowplay | streuner: probly. :-) I'm still impressed. |
| 04:46.27 | zeo33x | hi all, what does the "wa" field in top's CPU(s) mean ? wasted? |
| 04:46.38 | zeo33x | cpu summary i mean |
| 04:46.42 | angler- | anyone know why I would get "couldn't load XKB keymap" starting X after installing a 2.6 kernel using same config as before under 2.4 where it was working |
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| 04:47.37 | streuner | angler-: testing? |
| 04:47.45 | angler- | unstable |
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| 04:49.09 | streuner | What does the BTS say? |
| 04:49.22 | mocat | "downgrading" from unstable to testing can be done safely if you don't upgrade any of your unstable stuff for a while, until testing gets ahead (versionwise) of your system's current state, then you 'upgrade' to the current testing. |
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| 04:49.27 | angler- | bts? |
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| 04:49.39 | streuner | angler-: /msg dpkg bts |
| 04:50.44 | streuner | mocat: it would actually be *hard*, because the base packages in testing are frozen... |
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| 04:51.47 | acid-trip | anyone alive? |
| 04:51.54 | pipeline | no. |
| 04:51.55 | streuner | no |
| 04:51.58 | streuner | :-) |
| 04:52.01 | Viddy | hell no |
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| 04:52.10 | acid-trip | how do i mount with uid and gid |
| 04:52.39 | shadowplay | acid-trip: smbfs? |
| 04:52.53 | acid-trip | no no |
| 04:52.56 | acid-trip | through command line |
| 04:52.58 | Nurbs | what fs? |
| 04:52.59 | T_VoiD | acid-trip: that's options described in "man mount" most likely in the fat section |
| 04:55.15 | shadowplay | Nurbs: what are you trying to mount? a remote server, or a windows partition or what? fs=filesystem |
| 04:55.28 | shadowplay | Nurbs: sorry :-/ |
| 04:55.29 | Nurbs | shadowplay: exactly |
| 04:55.33 | Nurbs | :) |
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| 04:56.37 | shadowplay | <stuggling superhero voice> getting dyslexic... must... go to... bed... |
| 04:57.00 | acid-trip | shit is frustrating |
| 04:57.12 | Nurbs | pee, too? |
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| 04:57.20 | retina | eh? |
| 04:57.26 | shadowplay | try eating more fiber :-P |
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| 05:01.23 | angler- | streuner: no bug reports about the issue |
| 05:01.35 | cafuego | try to get the food poisoning I had, clears you up no end |
| 05:02.04 | streuner | angler-: the same result with an official kernel? |
| 05:02.15 | streuner | heh |
| 05:02.36 | angler- | streuner: you mean a non packaged deb kernel? |
| 05:02.54 | lunchbox | [3~hey guys, im looking 4 an IRC client for X, similar to mIRC. I tried XChat and didnt like the layout, any one got any suggestions? |
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| 05:03.21 | Guerin | lunchbox: why on arth do you want one like mirc? |
| 05:03.28 | lunchbox | familiarity |
| 05:03.46 | lunchbox | i'm too lazy to learn :P |
| 05:03.50 | streuner | angler-: no, a kernel-images as deb |
| 05:04.00 | Guerin | lunchbox: I don't think there is one. |
| 05:04.14 | Guerin | lunchbox: how much do you have to learn to change irc clients, anyway? |
| 05:04.27 | Guerin | compared to the amount you have to learn going from windows -> debian |
| 05:04.39 | lunchbox | lol not a whole lot, but i just didnt like XChat and havent been able to find another X irc cliet |
| 05:04.41 | streuner | angler-: what window-manager do you use? |
| 05:04.42 | lunchbox | client rather |
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| 05:05.09 | mattcamp | I just installed sarge using debian-installer rc1. It went pretty well, but now I want to use ALSA. hotplug is loading both ALSA and OSS modules for my card (emu10k1), and the OSS module is taking priority. I installed alsa-base, which adds /etc/hotplug/blacklist.d/alsa-base, but the OSS module is still being loaded. |
| 05:05.13 | mattcamp | What am i missing? |
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| 05:05.21 | angler- | streuner: im using the debian kernel source for 2.6 |
| 05:05.23 | jdeverall | hey |
| 05:05.26 | jdeverall | I'm new here.. |
| 05:05.31 | jdeverall | I've never used IRC before.. |
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| 05:05.34 | angler- | streuner: i just use kde |
| 05:05.38 | Guerin | lunchbox: well, other x clients include ksirc, kvirc and konversation, but they're all far worse than xchat |
| 05:05.44 | jdeverall | does anybody know where a good plcae to get help with linux would be? |
| 05:05.47 | retina | jdeverall: welcome to the party |
| 05:05.53 | Guerin | jdeverall: ##linux |
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| 05:06.04 | jdeverall | ah thanks |
| 05:06.04 | Guerin | jdeverall: if you need help with debian, you've arrived |
| 05:06.12 | jdeverall | sweet :) |
| 05:06.15 | jdeverall | I run debian |
| 05:06.19 | jdeverall | umm |
| 05:06.22 | Guerin | jdeverall: huzzah |
| 05:06.25 | jdeverall | this is more of a regular expression question though |
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| 05:06.37 | lunchbox | dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 123126 package `lbxproxy': |
| 05:06.37 | dpkg | You are moron #8, lunchbox |
| 05:06.37 | lunchbox | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:06.37 | lunchbox | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2) |
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| 05:06.50 | croepha|home | comotion, i am having troulbe installing the debian package fglrx-4.3.0-driver_3.11.1-1_i386.deb |
| 05:06.50 | Guerin | lunchbox: don't paste shit in hwere, please |
| 05:06.58 | lunchbox | sorry |
| 05:07.04 | T_VoiD | jdeverall: just ask it you'll generate less traffic both ways so |
| 05:07.05 | jdeverall | how would I find words in a file of words that are only 4 letters? |
| 05:07.07 | lunchbox | whats that mean tho? |
| 05:07.35 | jdeverall | I would have thought grep .... words |
| 05:07.37 | jdeverall | would have worked |
| 05:07.39 | jdeverall | but ofcourse it doesn't |
| 05:07.42 | Guerin | lunchbox: it means there's a parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 123126 package `lbxproxy' |
| 05:07.43 | lunchbox | it happens whenever i use apt-get install |
| 05:07.47 | jdeverall | cause any word longer than .... gets listed |
| 05:07.52 | jdeverall | .... or longer rather |
| 05:08.05 | mattcamp | Under kernel version 2.6, how do I get hotplug to load snd_emu10k1 (the ALSA module) rather than emu10k1 (the OSS module)? |
| 05:08.08 | lunchbox | Guerin: Lol i figured as much, ive got no idea what to do to fix it though |
| 05:08.14 | streuner | angler-: and you got no error with a 2.4.x kernel? |
| 05:08.18 | Guerin | lunchbox: tried apt-get update? |
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| 05:08.30 | peterS | mattcamp: I don't bother with that - just head it off at the pass by loading snd-emu10k1 preemptively, in /etc/modules |
| 05:08.45 | peterS | mattcamp: also, while you're at it, snd-pcm-oss |
| 05:09.07 | peterS | mattcamp: if you load those two modules before hotplug gets a chance to guess wrong, you should be fine |
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| 05:09.32 | croepha|home | comotion, did you get my last message, i got disconnected |
| 05:09.37 | mattcamp | peterS: Sounds like a good solution to me. Thanks. |
| 05:09.37 | lunchbox | yep just updated then and tried again, nothing.. |
| 05:09.50 | angler- | streuner: correct, i have used 2.4.18 and 2.4.26 with my x configuration just fine, I tried 2.6.6 and 2.6.7 and XKB keymap can't be loaded now.... |
| 05:09.52 | Guerin | lunchbox: sid? |
| 05:09.58 | lunchbox | yep |
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| 05:10.07 | cafuego | jdeverall: egrep |
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| 05:10.26 | cafuego | jdeverall: Just make a regex that matches 4x[a-Z] |
| 05:10.50 | T_VoiD | jdeverall: well grep '\<....\>' would match a word, but now use awk or perl to extract just the word |
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| 05:11.24 | streuner | angler-: it works here fine (unstable) |
| 05:11.26 | bono | T_VoiD: gothtec: concerning the disappearing xterm window problem... I had to insert a line in fstab mounting the devpts fs... |
| 05:11.37 | T_VoiD | bono: ohhhh |
| 05:11.48 | Guerin | lunchbox: hrm, badness. |
| 05:12.12 | Guerin | lunchbox: I wonder if it's a fault in the package's metadata, or whether it's a corrupt available file |
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| 05:12.18 | T_VoiD | bono: mixed stable and unstable lately? |
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| 05:12.49 | angler- | streuner: ok ill keep working on it |
| 05:12.54 | lunchbox | Guerin: would a work around be to manually obtain xlibs and dpkg -i it? |
| 05:12.56 | bono | T_VoiD: well i have done a complete upgrade to unstable after chatting with you earlier... but somehow my fstab wasnt upgraded... |
| 05:13.13 | Guerin | lunchbox: I doubt it, but you can try |
| 05:13.18 | lunchbox | mmmk |
| 05:13.21 | comotion | croepha|home: well, what problems are you running into? |
| 05:14.13 | T_VoiD | bono: I explain: /etc/init.d/devpts.sh belongs to libc6 in woody . it's replaced by /etc/init.d/mountvirtfs that belongs to initscripts in testing/unstable. if you upgrade *only* libc6 because you wanted to install something from unstable (usual common bad mistake) you get your problem |
| 05:14.35 | comotion | so people, I tried switching to md5 passwords. Unfortunately now I can't log in to nis clients through nis-managed accounts, getting "client disconnected" errors. |
| 05:14.42 | T_VoiD | bono: so check you actually updated (or installed) the initscripts package |
| 05:15.17 | croepha|home | the debian package: fglrx-4.3.0-driver_3.11.1-1_i386.deb wont install : subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2 |
| 05:15.18 | T_VoiD | bono: they don't change fstab, it's done without having the entries in fstab |
| 05:15.33 | T_VoiD | bono: but editing fstab is a temp fix yep |
| 05:15.46 | croepha|home | comotion, ^^^ |
| 05:16.00 | jdeverall | hey thanks T_Void |
| 05:16.05 | T_VoiD | croepha|home: wait i'll tell you the command |
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| 05:16.48 | croepha|home | T_VoiD, ok.. |
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| 05:17.24 | felix_187 | hey everybody |
| 05:17.29 | bono | T_VoiD: so doing a dist-upgrade would have fixed this? |
| 05:17.39 | felix_187 | i need some help setting up my Woody install... anybody game? |
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| 05:17.57 | deadcat | felix_187: q it. |
| 05:18.02 | lunchbox | nope that didnt do anything |
| 05:18.27 | felix_187 | deadcat: gee thanks... |
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| 05:18.44 | deadcat | felix_187: what the fuck. if you dont tell us your q how the fuck you expect us to help |
| 05:18.58 | felix_187 | deadcat: lol hold on a second |
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| 05:19.17 | comotion | croepha|home: if that's all you get, try dpkg -D 2 -i fglrx*.deb |
| 05:19.17 | felix_187 | ok |
| 05:19.43 | jdeverall | can anybody recommend a good rss viewer for news feeds? |
| 05:19.51 | T_VoiD | croepha|home: type this before: dpkg-divert --package fglrx-4.3.0-driver --divert /usr/X11R6/lib/fglrx-diverted.libGL.so.1.2 /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2 |
| 05:19.52 | deadcat | jdeverall: command line or gui |
| 05:19.54 | felix_187 | err |
| 05:19.57 | felix_187 | i'll be a minute |
| 05:19.58 | jdeverall | hmm |
| 05:20.00 | jdeverall | either actually |
| 05:20.00 | felix_187 | don't hold your breath |
| 05:20.00 | T_VoiD | croepha|home: after this you should be able to install your package :) |
| 05:20.04 | jdeverall | command line would be cool to learn |
| 05:20.09 | deadcat | jdeverall: snownews |
| 05:20.12 | jdeverall | but gui would be easy for me to use |
| 05:20.22 | jdeverall | is snownews a command line based one? |
| 05:20.36 | comotion | T_VoiD: I see everything's under control ;-) |
| 05:20.37 | deadcat | jdeverall: curse based. |
| 05:20.49 | T_VoiD | croepha|home: hum wait forget :) |
| 05:20.52 | T_VoiD | comotion: not really haha |
| 05:20.57 | jdeverall | curse in that it's frustrating to use? |
| 05:21.07 | jdeverall | and swearing helps? |
| 05:21.07 | T_VoiD | croepha|home: that's a specific debianized package? |
| 05:21.09 | deadcat | jdeverall: gdesklets has frew crappy GUI applets |
| 05:21.22 | T_VoiD | croepha|home: don't do it (if you did np you can cancel it with an other command) |
| 05:21.42 | T_VoiD | croepha|home: if the script fails I can't really help, I thought that was a file conflict, I'm really sorry |
| 05:21.54 | jdeverall | I'm just going to try installing snownews now |
| 05:22.10 | croepha|home | T_VoiD, |
| 05:22.14 | croepha|home | T_VoiD, bash: dpkg-divert: command not found |
| 05:22.24 | deadcat | jdeverall: apt-cache search rss maybe? |
| 05:22.31 | croepha|home | T_VoiD, nvm |
| 05:22.35 | T_VoiD | croepha|home: fine forget it then haha |
| 05:22.53 | felix_187 | okay my ? is as such: how can i get my prism2-based wireless card working? |
| 05:23.04 | T_VoiD | bono: if you change distribution you *should* use dist-upgrade, that's its main goal |
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| 05:23.14 | croepha|home | T_VoiD, dpkg-divert: `diversion of /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2 to /usr/X11R6/lib/fglrx-diverted.libGL.so.1.2 by fglrx-4.3.0-driver' clashes with `diversion of /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2 to /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL-no-dri-trunk.so.1.2 by xlibmesa-gl1-dri-trunk' |
| 05:23.19 | deadcat | felix_187: cant you use the orinoco driver? or maybe thats just prism-base |
| 05:23.27 | felix_187 | hmmmm |
| 05:23.29 | felix_187 | let's find out |
| 05:23.52 | jdeverall | hey this snownews thing is awsome |
| 05:23.53 | jdeverall | thanks |
| 05:23.53 | comotion | croepha|home: you need /usr/sbin in your path to use dpkg-divert, m8 |
| 05:23.54 | deadcat | felix_187: else try the linux-wlan-ng driver <-- i use this for my prism2_usb, but i had to compile it with the orig /usr/src/linux tree. |
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| 05:24.36 | shoq | general question: would it be an easy process to go from sarge/testing (installed right now) to sarge/stable (when it is released)? |
| 05:24.38 | bluefox83 | is there a basic text editor that can turn a regular document into an html document? |
| 05:24.43 | comotion | croepha|home: ah well then that explains it - you'll have to remove the gl1-dri-trunk |
| 05:24.46 | croepha|home | comotion, yea, i pasted the result of the command |
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| 05:24.58 | deadcat | jdeverall: i just use a script online and modified it to my need to strip the title | head -n 10 and let root-tail display it on my workspace |
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| 05:25.25 | deadcat | jdeverall: http://deadcat.thegunn.com/tmp/Xinerama/6.html |
| 05:25.29 | T_VoiD | croepha|home: hum I think you can't have diversions at infinitum |
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| 05:25.47 | T_VoiD | croepha|home: I bet the preinstall script but the same error . it tried to divert something already diverted |
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| 05:25.53 | T_VoiD | croepha|home: s/but/got/ |
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| 05:26.56 | T_VoiD | croepha|home: so in short: remove the xlibmesa-gl1-dri-trunk, or break your package dependencies |
| 05:27.26 | croepha|home | T_VoiD, WOW!!! sudo apt-get remove xlibmesa-gl1-dri-trunk is giving lots of errors |
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| 05:27.39 | comotion | T_VoiD: I actually usually do a 'dpkg --force-overwrite fglrx*.deb' |
| 05:27.46 | T_VoiD | croepha|home: it's starting to break haha |
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| 05:28.05 | comotion | T_VoiD: however I wouldn't recommend anyone doing so :-P |
| 05:28.17 | croepha|home | T_VoiD, how do i fix it? |
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| 05:28.30 | T_VoiD | comotion: with divertions not correctly handled you lose the diverted file |
| 05:28.53 | T_VoiD | croepha|home: i'd say force removal of both, and reinstall (the poor innocent) xlibmesa-gl package |
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| 05:29.24 | T_VoiD | croepha|home: but don't complain if you get more errors now |
| 05:29.24 | croepha|home | how do i fore remove with apt? is it -f ? |
| 05:29.32 | croepha|home | force* |
| 05:29.47 | mwilson | You don't. |
| 05:29.57 | croepha|home | dpkg? |
| 05:30.01 | T_VoiD | croepha|home: what error did remove xlibmesa-gl1-dri-trunk ? dependencies? |
| 05:30.21 | croepha|home | dpkg-divert: mismatch on divert-to |
| 05:30.35 | croepha|home | T_VoiD, ^^^ |
| 05:31.16 | T_VoiD | croepha|home: what do you get with: dpkg-divert --list '*GL*' |
| 05:31.46 | croepha|home | diversion of /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2 to /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL-no-dri-trunk.so.1.2 by xlibmesa-gl1-dri-trunk |
| 05:31.46 | croepha|home | diversion of /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1 to /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL-no-dri-trunk.so.1 by xlibmesa-gl1-dri-trunk |
| 05:31.46 | croepha|home | diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 to /usr/lib/libGL-no-dri-trunk.so.1.2 by xlibmesa-gl1-dri-trunk |
| 05:31.46 | croepha|home | diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 to /usr/lib/libGL-no-dri-trunk.so.1 by xlibmesa-gl1-dri-trunk |
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| 05:32.05 | T_VoiD | hum i didn't think you'd get that man lines heh |
| 05:32.15 | croepha|home | i didn't think that was more that for lines |
| 05:32.25 | T_VoiD | croepha|home: #flood , come |
| 05:32.36 | croepha|home | T_VoiD, that was it.. |
| 05:32.59 | T_VoiD | croepha|home: do it again on chan #flood |
| 05:33.12 | croepha|home | don |
| 05:33.14 | croepha|home | e |
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| 05:34.03 | felix_187 | deadcat: how can i install the hermes module? |
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| 05:34.11 | felix_187 | :noob: |
| 05:34.47 | croepha|home | T_VoiD, ? |
| 05:34.48 | T_VoiD | croepha|home: oh well, and the only error you get is about divertions? |
| 05:34.59 | reaper | anyone had success with bidentd? |
| 05:35.03 | reaper | on 2.4 |
| 05:35.03 | T_VoiD | croepha|home: I don't see where's the mismatch actually heh |
| 05:35.36 | T_VoiD | croepha|home: well paste the error when you try to install it on #flood heh |
| 05:35.43 | T_VoiD | croepha|home: try to UNinstall it |
| 05:35.57 | deadcat | felix_187: its already part of your kernel. modprobe hermes |
| 05:36.03 | felix_187 | see |
| 05:36.05 | felix_187 | i tried that |
| 05:36.19 | deadcat | felix_187: lsmod | egrep "herme|orino|pris" |
| 05:36.29 | felix_187 | :doing it: |
| 05:36.46 | felix_187 | i ahve none of those |
| 05:37.15 | felix_187 | wait, this means i have to configure the kernel, don't i... |
| 05:37.20 | felix_187 | see, i used to know how to do this, sort of |
| 05:37.23 | deadcat | felix_187: if you jack the card in, hotplug should load orinoco and hermes for you. if not load it yourlsef and see iwconfig shows anything |
| 05:37.30 | felix_187 | hmmmm |
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| 05:37.44 | felix_187 | no dice |
| 05:38.03 | felix_187 | "no wireless extensions" |
| 05:38.18 | deadcat | felix_187: what branch of debian you using and what kernel? |
| 05:38.30 | felix_187 | uhhhh woody |
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| 05:38.36 | T_VoiD | croepha|home: just type apt-get remove xlibmesa-gl1-dri-trunk (I just hope it's not related to some xserver-xfree86-*trunk* one) |
| 05:38.47 | deadcat | felix_187: this is a laptop? |
| 05:38.52 | felix_187 | oh it sure is |
| 05:39.10 | deadcat | felix_187: you might wnat to look into either testing or unstable and get a new kernel. |
| 05:39.33 | felix_187 | garrr |
| 05:39.51 | felix_187 | where do i have to go to do 'make menuconfig' for my kernel? |
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| 05:40.17 | phirkel | Would anybody happen to know how to get kernel 2.6.7-powerpc to work with the network card built into the imac? |
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| 05:41.26 | LinCity | Hi all. I'm creating a magicpoint presentation about debian packaging. And I'm looking for a answer to this question: When deb package reach version 2,0? |
| 05:41.33 | zarchne | felix_187: the source dir... where you untarred it.. |
| 05:41.41 | ykke | Time for school now. :D |
| 05:41.51 | felix_187 | i haven't untarred it.... just installed it... |
| 05:42.10 | deadcat | felix_187: thats call installing a kernel. not compiling. |
| 05:42.19 | felix_187 | this is true |
| 05:42.25 | zarchne | felix_187: what exactly did you install? |
| 05:42.26 | felix_187 | but i'd like to configure and recompile it |
| 05:42.33 | felix_187 | debian woody netinst |
| 05:42.41 | jm_ | LinCity: what do you mean with that ? |
| 05:43.01 | zarchne | felix_187: you need kernel source |
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| 05:44.15 | zarchne | felix_187: e.g., kernel-source-2.4.19 |
| 05:44.19 | felix_187 | zarchne: apt-get install kernel-source ? |
| 05:44.44 | felix_187 | gah |
| 05:44.46 | felix_187 | another day |
| 05:44.47 | felix_187 | g'nite all |
| 05:45.51 | T_VoiD | croepha|home happened to also have an old different fglrx package hanging around ;) what a mess heh |
| 05:45.51 | phirkel | Would anybody happen to know how to get kernel 2.6.7-powerpc to work with the network card built into the imac? Anybody? |
| 05:46.40 | T_VoiD | croepha|home: so: apt-get --purge remove fglrx && apt-get --reinstall install xlibmesa-gl |
| 05:46.45 | croepha|home | T_VoiD, yea, it was a comercial package that didn't work |
| 05:46.57 | T_VoiD | croepha|home: it worked for me heh |
| 05:47.09 | T_VoiD | croepha|home: the other you'll install is the very same, with more scripts around |
| 05:47.41 | T_VoiD | croepha|home: but fglrx is still this bugged driver from ati. randomly crashes X |
| 05:48.11 | croepha|home | T_VoiD, ahh, well, i had touble compiling for my kernel or well at least the product of compiling was a module that didn't work |
| 05:48.58 | skaught | What's the problem with your network card? What kindof imac? What kindof network are you connecting to? |
| 05:49.06 | T_VoiD | croepha|home: yep they put bad scripts: you can only compile correctly with the system using the final running kernel (else you have to change a ton of things in the compile scripts) |
| 05:49.08 | zignig | T_VoiD: to give you that windows feel ? |
| 05:49.26 | spo0nman | does someone knows a thing or two about rtl8150 usb-ethernet hingys? |
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| 05:49.41 | T_VoiD | zignig: really, my next 3D card will be a nvidia. they do closed source too ok, but they assume their choice at least |
| 05:50.14 | T_VoiD | zignig: they don't fire the linux developpers like did ati in dec 2003 |
| 05:50.20 | afro|lap | ouch |
| 05:50.24 | MaybeYes | wow, my ip hasn't been banned! joy joy! (the perils of cable modems) |
| 05:50.47 | reaper | anyone able to successfully masquerade ident in linux 2.4? |
| 05:50.51 | reaper | ive tried every identd and nothing |
| 05:51.03 | croepha|home | T_VoiD, i thought that the weather channel hired some guy to write Drivers for the newer ATI cards, then they released them as GPL'd code |
| 05:51.22 | T_VoiD | reaper: I tried thinking about it, a generic (non irc specific) implementation isn't possible with the current netfilter. you can't have two helpers on the same port |
| 05:51.25 | mwilson | reaper: "masquerade" ident? |
| 05:51.44 | reaper | yeah, 3 of the ones supplied by debian claim to masquerade ident connections |
| 05:51.58 | reaper | none of them actually work for me |
| 05:52.13 | mwilson | reaper: Since I know they work, how about you define what YOU think you mean by "masquerade ident"? |
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| 05:52.29 | IsraelB | i have fun |
| 05:52.30 | LinCity | jm_, deb package standard is in version 2.0 right? |
| 05:52.33 | IsraelB | thks |
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| 05:52.37 | croepha|home | T_VoiD, croepha@nilly:~$ sudo dpkg -S '*libGL.so.1.2*' |
| 05:52.38 | croepha|home | xlibmesa-gl: /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2 |
| 05:52.38 | croepha|home | xlibmesa-gl: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 |
| 05:52.53 | reaper | anyone? |
| 05:52.56 | T_VoiD | reaper: without kernel support (that has limitations from netfilter) you must use a special ident *both* on the NAT/router and the client(s) behind. you can't have it working with a non modified ident on the client behind. you can also use a dumb ident on the nat box that can answer always the same whatever the question, that works too |
| 05:53.01 | reaper | ah.. |
| 05:53.31 | T_VoiD | reaper: the dumb client is done in 2 shell lines using inetd. want it? |
| 05:53.40 | reaper | nah i've actually written it in perl myself |
| 05:53.46 | reaper | but i was hoping it could be done for real |
| 05:53.58 | mwilson | It *can* be done for real, as he just told you. |
| 05:54.14 | reaper | bidentd and oidentd claim its possible by looking in proc |
| 05:54.17 | T_VoiD | reaper: you can't add a helper over an other helper, iptables framework doesn't allow it |
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| 05:54.38 | mwilson | T_VoiD: I have to say, I'd like to see these two lines of shell. :) |
| 05:54.50 | T_VoiD | reaper: I think there are patches for the irc helper that handle ident (for irc ) |
| 05:55.13 | reaper | ok, thanks for the help |
| 05:55.43 | T_VoiD | mwilson: IRCUSER=void ; read -r i; { echo -n "$i"|tr -d '\r\n'; /bin/echo -e -n " : USERID : UNIX : $IRCUSER\r\n"; |
| 05:55.58 | T_VoiD | mwilson: doh my paste went wrong the end is missing |
| 05:56.11 | T_VoiD | mwilson: IRCUSER=void ; read -r i; { echo -n "$i"|tr -d '\r\n'; /bin/echo -e -n " : USERID : UNIX : $IRCUSER\r\n"; }|dd ibs=256 2>/dev/null |
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| 05:56.43 | T_VoiD | mwilson: here it is. ok that can be 3 lines if you really want (and with the #!/bin/sh at start too) |
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| 05:57.02 | T_VoiD | mwilson: I didn't activate it right now so I have a ~ |
| 05:57.53 | mwilson | Weird. |
| 05:58.05 | karol_ | hello #debian |
| 05:58.26 | karol_ | ever since i switched to a 2.6 kernel |
| 05:58.29 | T_VoiD | mwilson: the dd is to be sure there's only one packet sent. without it, I got my ident answer split in two packets and the ircd (the freenet one I think) didn't handle it |
| 05:58.32 | karol_ | with alsa, |
| 05:58.41 | T_VoiD | oups freenode |
| 05:58.47 | karol_ | I can't seem to get midi playback to work. |
| 05:59.34 | karol_ | I have no idea what I'm doing, but after a little hunting around |
| 05:59.44 | karol_ | I found /dev/sndstat |
| 05:59.49 | karol_ | it sez: |
| 05:59.56 | karol_ | Midi devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG |
| 06:00.15 | karol_ | does that explain why midi doesn't work? |
| 06:00.28 | karol_ | how do I enable it in config? |
| 06:00.47 | T_VoiD | karol_: using OSS ? usually with older cards at least you enable opl3 to get the synth and uart401 for the external midi port |
| 06:01.18 | karol_ | ? |
| 06:01.54 | karol_ | also it says: |
| 06:02.01 | karol_ | Synth devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG |
| 06:02.29 | T_VoiD | ? |
| 06:02.35 | T_VoiD | (seems easier to just type "?" ) |
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| 06:03.43 | karol_ | T_VoiD: what does `enable opl3' mean? |
| 06:03.43 | skaught | hehe |
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| 06:04.18 | brokenantimatter | What install ISO am I suppose to download? |
| 06:04.23 | brokenantimatter | for x86 |
| 06:04.33 | skaught | brokenantimatter : that would depend on what you want to do, wouldn't it. |
| 06:04.41 | brokenantimatter | I suppose it would |
| 06:04.47 | jmd | Are there any expert at tracking down faulty PAM configurations lurking ?? |
| 06:04.47 | T_VoiD | karol_: I assumed the config would be the kernel config |
| 06:05.00 | brokenantimatter | full install = debian-30r2-i386-binary-1_NONUS.iso ? |
| 06:05.05 | T_VoiD | karol_: but perhaps you have the opl3 module and if you "modprobe opl3" that would work |
| 06:05.34 | skaught | brokenantimatter : What distribution do you want? Do you have a network card? |
| 06:05.48 | brokenantimatter | I would prefer a self contained install |
| 06:05.55 | brokenantimatter | so I don't have to connect to the net |
| 06:06.06 | skaught | brokenantimatter : Then there are 6-7 isos waiting for you. |
| 06:06.35 | brokenantimatter | :o |
| 06:06.39 | T_VoiD | brokenantimatter: some resellers sell a single dvd too |
| 06:06.40 | brokenantimatter | >.< |
| 06:06.40 | skaught | brokenantimatter : Debian supports a lot of packages. However, with one small netinstall iso you can get a bootable base system without having to connect to the net |
| 06:07.01 | brokenantimatter | would it be better to connect to the net? |
| 06:07.12 | brokenantimatter | I am use to using Gentoo so it wouldn't be a problem for me |
| 06:07.27 | T_VoiD | brokenantimatter: yes because you won't use most of your cds anyways |
| 06:07.38 | karol_ | T_VoiD: no. I suppose that if I did have it, success would depend on if my soundcard was supported by that driver? |
| 06:07.43 | skaught | brokenantimatter : I would recommend the Sarge Netinst ISOs to most new users |
| 06:07.47 | brokenantimatter | but my professor wont allow us to use Gentoo because it isn't "mass user friendly" |
| 06:07.49 | skaught | err.. iso |
| 06:08.03 | brokenantimatter | I have been using unix since you were probably in diapers :-p |
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| 06:08.16 | T_VoiD | karol_: anyways you never told what you have or what you did |
| 06:08.21 | brokenantimatter | I am not new |
| 06:08.22 | skaught | brokenantimatter : Right, and you haven't learned to RTFM? |
| 06:08.31 | brokenantimatter | just new to Debian |
| 06:08.37 | T_VoiD | karol_: like what card and is the kernel compiled by you or not |
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| 06:08.50 | skaught | brokenantimatter : I didn't say new computer user, or new unix user ;) |
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| 06:09.34 | skaught | brokenantimatter : I would save bandwith, grab the netinst CD (it's also the most well supported install) |
| 06:09.47 | karol_ | right. |
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| 06:10.20 | menetas | is there a way to show IIS of one of my WinBox inside my LAN in a apache virtualhost of the server? |
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| 06:10.53 | zignig | menetas: have a look a mod_redirect or mod_rewrite |
| 06:10.58 | karol_ | T_VoiD: i have a c-media pci chip. I'm using a 2.6.7 kernel which, unfortunately, I compiled myself. |
| 06:10.59 | zignig | menetas: in apache.org |
| 06:11.01 | T_VoiD | menetas: 127 users on #apache ;) |
| 06:11.09 | menetas | cool, lemme take a look |
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| 06:12.52 | T_VoiD | karol_: woa dunno what is this c-media. has to be compatible with something else. old cards used to all support the "opl3" interface that's the adlib compatible thingy. anyways you can also choose to forget all this and install timidity (+ timidity-patches + some editing of conf file because they botched it) |
| 06:13.00 | jdeverall | hey T_VoiD |
| 06:13.09 | jdeverall | or anybody |
| 06:13.27 | jdeverall | I'm trying to use scp to copy a file of a remote server to my home pc |
| 06:13.36 | jdeverall | it's not working.. |
| 06:13.38 | jm_ | c-media is supported by Linux kernel |
| 06:13.40 | peterS | jdeverall: ok, what's the problem? |
| 06:13.47 | T_VoiD | something like command not found in the error? |
| 06:13.48 | jdeverall | and I think it's because I'm sticking the wrong ip address in.. |
| 06:13.55 | jdeverall | I'm using the route command to display it |
| 06:13.56 | T_VoiD | ah |
| 06:14.06 | jdeverall | in msdos I'd use ifconfig.. |
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| 06:14.09 | peterS | jdeverall: to get your own IP address, try '/sbin/ifconfig' |
| 06:14.10 | jdeverall | but I'm new to this bash stuff |
| 06:14.15 | T_VoiD | jdeverall: so ssh isn't working as well ? |
| 06:14.17 | menetas | for example, my server has 192.168.0.1 and it runs apache, if i need to show the IIS content of a winbox inside my lan, lets say is in 192.168.0.25, should i take a look at apache solution? or is it more like a firewall solution? |
| 06:14.51 | jdeverall | no ssh words |
| 06:14.53 | jdeverall | *works |
| 06:14.58 | jdeverall | I'm logging in.. |
| 06:15.06 | jdeverall | ssh -l username servername |
| 06:15.14 | jdeverall | successfully |
| 06:15.16 | eye69 | menetas: mod_proxy in Apache |
| 06:15.19 | jdeverall | I just want to copy some of my files off |
| 06:15.24 | jdeverall | onto my home pc |
| 06:15.31 | T_VoiD | jdeverall: ok, must be a hard problem then. scp user@host:file /some/where/here/ |
| 06:15.32 | jdeverall | I thought scp might be the way to do it |
| 06:15.54 | T_VoiD | jdeverall: I meant "musn't" |
| 06:15.56 | jdeverall | not hard if you know I'm sure |
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| 06:16.04 | jdeverall | thanks |
| 06:16.20 | jdeverall | but once I've logged in.. |
| 06:16.24 | peterS | jdeverall: it's generally best to run scp from the same machine you're running ssh from. rather than trying to scp in the opposite direction. for one thing it's less confusing |
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| 06:16.32 | T_VoiD | jdeverall: btw: man scp (and the same syntax works with ssh, i never use -l, would remind of evil rsh) |
| 06:16.35 | jdeverall | ok |
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| 06:17.46 | menetas | eye69> thanks, ill take a look at it |
| 06:17.46 | jdeverall | thanks I'll try this stuf |
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| 06:21.05 | brokenantimatter | 2h 30mins to download and I live less than 2 blocks from the tech center -_-; |
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| 06:21.17 | croepha|home | is there any way i might be able to change my clock speed from debian? |
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| 06:21.50 | T_VoiD | croepha|home: clock speed of what exactly? what for? fuzzy question |
| 06:22.02 | croepha|home | T_VoiD, my proc |
| 06:22.18 | T_VoiD | croepha|home: no idea. thought only bios can do that |
| 06:22.52 | croepha|home | naw, i have changed my clock speed while running in windows |
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| 06:23.26 | jdeverall | if somebody can just tell me why this doesn't work (I'm sure there's a simple reason) |
| 06:23.27 | jdeverall | scp 130.216.34.26/usr/share/dict/words 192.168.0.43/home/jdeverall |
| 06:23.28 | croepha|home | you just cant cange the multiplier wihtout rebot |
| 06:23.39 | jdeverall | the error message is.. |
| 06:23.40 | jm_ | jdeverall: the simple reason is PEBCAK |
| 06:23.45 | T_VoiD | jdeverall: that's not the correct syntax. man scp :p |
| 06:23.58 | jdeverall | cp: cannot stat `130.216.34.26/usr/share/dict/words': No such file or directory |
| 06:24.02 | jdeverall | ok ok |
| 06:24.08 | jdeverall | I'm reading it... |
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| 06:24.19 | T_VoiD | jdeverall: you can stop at the synopsis heh |
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| 06:25.46 | T_VoiD | jdeverall: google for scp example haha |
| 06:26.03 | jdeverall | well I have and that's what I came up with! |
| 06:26.13 | jdeverall | man seems like such geekspeak.. |
| 06:26.17 | jdeverall | don't quite understand it yet |
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| 06:26.46 | blits | hey guys! Just wondering how I would go about checking my ADSL line speed. Up and down. I know you can do it on some ADSL routers, I'm using a flat ADSL modem so I would image you can do it using a tool in linux? No?35166 |
| 06:26.49 | T_VoiD | jdeverall: did you really try thw two words scp and example in google? |
| 06:26.53 | jdeverall | I find interpreting man pages quite difficult for things like scp |
| 06:26.57 | jdeverall | ls I can handle |
| 06:27.01 | grendel | does anyone know why I get this error from a program when run from a bash script ? Fatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed) |
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| 06:27.23 | grendel | I don't get it when run manually... |
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| 06:28.26 | jm_ | grendel: hard to say, could be a bug in the program |
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| 06:28.48 | grendel | jm_, but the program runs perfectly when run manually... |
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| 06:29.04 | jm_ | grendel: well does it get the same environment ? i.e. DISPLAY and so on |
| 06:29.17 | T_VoiD | blits: i think there are many tools. one here: bing (I know there are others, can't remember which) |
| 06:29.21 | grendel | jm_, yes |
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| 06:29.42 | jm_ | grendel: then maybe strace it or debug it |
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| 06:29.54 | phorce1 | jdeverall: if you have a winbox in the mix somewhere search for "winscp" -- drag-n-drop scp. |
| 06:29.56 | grendel | jm_, yep... I'm going to do that. |
| 06:29.56 | jdeverall | scp jdev024@chaos.cs.auckland.ac.nz /usr/share/dict/words . |
| 06:30.00 | jdeverall | ok.. |
| 06:30.04 | jdeverall | this doesn't work.. |
| 06:30.07 | T_VoiD | blits: of course it's hard to know speed both ways if you don't have an other box elsewhere to participate in the tests |
| 06:30.08 | jdeverall | which doesn't bother me |
| 06:30.14 | jdeverall | but the error message does |
| 06:30.21 | jdeverall | as it is saying it can't find the file to copy it anywhere |
| 06:30.38 | jdeverall | I can log in |
| 06:30.41 | jdeverall | I can edit the file in vi |
| 06:30.46 | jdeverall | but I can't save it to my local machine.. |
| 06:30.50 | jdeverall | I know there is a simple way |
| 06:31.02 | T_VoiD | jdeverall: that would without the final . (at least the syntax) |
| 06:31.12 | jdeverall | thanks |
| 06:31.13 | T_VoiD | jdeverall: oh well no |
| 06:31.15 | jdeverall | I'll get rid of the . |
| 06:31.21 | T_VoiD | jdeverall: didn't read correctly |
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| 06:31.26 | jdeverall | ok |
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| 06:31.42 | T_VoiD | jdeverall: I give up I give you the answer then I put you on ignore. scp jdev024@chaos.cs.auckland.ac.nz:/usr/share/dict/words . |
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| 06:32.09 | jdeverall | I'll get better :) |
| 06:32.10 | jdeverall | thanks |
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| 06:33.45 | croepha|home | what is /dev/core ?? |
| 06:34.02 | phorce1 | T_Void: heh -- I just scanned my old message log when I turned off 'away' mode and there was something in there from you timestamped Jan-2002. Something about a program you were writing, I haven't a clue what for of course. |
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| 06:34.32 | peterS | croepha|home: live kernel memory |
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| 06:34.46 | croepha|home | peterS, cool |
| 06:34.55 | peterS | croepha|home: under the right circumstances you can attach a debugger to it as though it were a core file, and look at live kernel data structures |
| 06:34.58 | croepha|home | doesn't that belong in proc? |
| 06:35.04 | peterS | croepha|home: ls -l /dev/core |
| 06:35.25 | peterS | croepha|home: you'll see that it actually *is* in /proc |
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| 06:35.39 | croepha|home | peterS, thats really cool |
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| 06:37.42 | phorce1 | I'm using 'screen' here. dircolors for 'ls' works fine. When I run Midnight Commander (mc) it always runs in non-color mode though. Ideas as to why? Works in color on a non-screen TTY. |
| 06:37.53 | eye69 | phorce1: mc -c |
| 06:39.03 | phorce1 | eye69: That works. Wonder why it doesn't default to that under 'screen' though? It's the default for my regular TTY logins. |
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| 06:39.49 | phorce1 | eye69: wonder if it's not seeing the termcap supplied by 'screen' correctly? |
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| 06:40.52 | jm_ | screen sets different TERM value |
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| 06:42.09 | phorce1 | jm_: yeah, I see that. TERM=screen and TERMCAP=(big mess of escape values) |
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| 06:42.58 | jm_ | phorce1: I also have COLORTERM set, so I think this should help |
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| 06:43.47 | phorce1 | jm_: COLORTERM=?? (TRUE/YES?) |
| 06:43.55 | jm_ | phorce1: just set it to any value |
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| 06:46.31 | phorce1 | jm_: Thanks. I'm slowly working my screenrc and .bashrc to the point that I can figure out how to launch screen at login. Haven't figured out where to put it yet so it doesn't get "re-launched" by the screen login process though. |
| 06:47.16 | jm_ | phorce1: screen login process ? |
| 06:47.37 | jm_ | phorce1: you mean bash startup files ? try /msg dpkg bashrc |
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| 06:47.50 | Medium_Skilled | hi guys.. do you know ANY console email client (eg. Pine) which I can send to one email address an attachment file from my linux box via one single command with? (I'd like the box to send me it's ip address). |
| 06:48.06 | phorce1 | jm_: doesn't screen process .bashrc or .bash_profile when it starts? |
| 06:48.10 | jm_ | phorce1: also take a look at default .bashrc file : if [ "$PS1" ]; then for interactive shells |
| 06:48.13 | jm_ | phorce1: no, bash does |
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| 06:48.43 | jm_ | Medium_Skilled: mutt |
| 06:49.02 | crackhead | is there a way to upgrade the kernel without having to hand compile my own? |
| 06:49.06 | jm_ | Medium_Skilled: although I don't see why you'd need to send it as an attachment - mail command will do you fine |
| 06:49.12 | jm_ | crackhead: read the FAQ |
| 06:49.17 | Medium_Skilled | jm_ : thanks. |
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| 06:49.37 | GeK0 | alguien me ayuda? |
| 06:49.40 | GeK0 | en español |
| 06:49.42 | GeK0 | ? |
| 06:49.45 | jm_ | !+portuguese |
| 06:49.45 | dpkg | i guess portuguese is the most beautiful idiom of the world, or #debian-br, or por favor use #debian-br para ajuda em portugues. |
| 06:49.49 | phorce1 | jm_: that's what I meant. Doesn't a new bash process start with each new screen one creates? I haven't gotten that far in my reading. |
| 06:49.52 | jm_ | spanish :P |
| 06:49.54 | jm_ | !+spanish |
| 06:49.54 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish speakers: please go to #debian-es, you will get a lot more help there. |
| 06:49.58 | GeK0 | spanish:D |
| 06:50.01 | GeK0 | please |
| 06:50.01 | crackhead | jm_: which faq: |
| 06:50.03 | crackhead | ? |
| 06:50.06 | GeK0 | alguien? |
| 06:50.09 | jm_ | phorce1: yes - /msg dpkg bashrc |
| 06:50.14 | jm_ | crackhead: read the topic |
| 06:50.25 | GeK0 | apt-get install spanish -all |
| 06:50.33 | GeK0 | ahora si ya puede? |
| 06:50.43 | jm_ | GeK0: read the above - #debian-es |
| 06:51.05 | GeK0 | join #debian-es |
| 06:51.09 | GeK0 | ok |
| 06:51.11 | GeK0 | thx |
| 06:51.19 | GeK0 | ok |
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| 06:53.48 | GeK0 | i need help |
| 06:53.56 | GeK0 | x-windows |
| 06:54.05 | GeK0 | somebody? |
| 06:54.11 | GeK0 | help me |
| 06:54.12 | jm_ | !+help me |
| 06:54.13 | dpkg | no help on me. Use 'help' without arguments. |
| 06:54.16 | jm_ | doh |
| 06:54.39 | phorce1 | jm_: That I understood. My reading hasn't reached the point of understanding whether 'screen' starts are "login" or "non-login" shells. I guess since they are started by a program process other than "login" they are "non-login" even though you end up at a regular bash prompt. |
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| 06:54.53 | GeK0 | !+help |
| 06:54.55 | dpkg | I learn mainly by observing declarative statements such as "x is at http://www.xxx.com", and then reply when people ask things like "where can i find x?" |
| 06:54.55 | dpkg | 37 topics: +ban, +chan, +host, -ban, -chan, -host, action, addressing, alternation, author, babelfish, chaninfo, chanset, chanunset, chattr, chnick, chpass, contents, cookie, corrections, cpustats, crypt, cycle, dauthor, dbugs, ddesc, dfind, dict, dollar variables, dstats, factinfo, factstats, forget, freshmeat, hex, httpdtype, ignore |
| 06:54.55 | dpkg | 38 topics: ircstats, join, karma, kernel, kick, lart, listauth, listkeys, listvalues, literal, lobotomy, lock, main, math, mode, news, news add, news del, news mod, news set, news set expire, nickometer, nslookup, ord, part, quote, redirection, rename, reply, rot13, search, seen, slashdot, spell, status, tell, topic, topic add |
| 06:54.58 | dpkg | 9 topics: topic del, topic mod, topic mv, topic restore, unforget, unlobotomy, unlock, uptime, wantnick |
| 06:54.59 | jm_ | phorce1: that's easy to figure out |
| 06:55.06 | jm_ | geko;please use /msg to talk to bots |
| 06:55.11 | enigmus | hi. How do I make screen to write a ^? when I hit backspace? (and not a ^h) |
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| 06:55.16 | heviarti | is anyone here good with makefiles, and figuring out problems with them? |
| 06:55.20 | jm_ | I guess it's my fault for trying to be smart and using ! in public |
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| 06:55.45 | jm_ | enigmus: you can easily rebind keys in screen, read the docs |
| 06:55.57 | phorce1 | jm_: Yep, stick a non-destructive display command in there (echo "something" and see if it shows up. |
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| 06:56.11 | GeK0 | its a complicated understain here |
| 06:56.15 | GeK0 | chao |
| 06:56.23 | peterS | enigmus: it does already by default on Debian |
| 06:56.26 | crackhead | jm_: I was reading the faq and it only has a section on how someone can upgrade their own custom kernel |
| 06:56.30 | jm_ | phorce1: try echo $0 and compare the results for login vs. non-login shells |
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| 06:56.47 | heviarti | anyone? i'm trying to compile a program right now and i'm getting a very odd error.. |
| 06:56.48 | jm_ | crackhead: no, it tells you how to check which versions are available and how to install it |
| 06:56.53 | peterS | enigmus: if you're using all Debian software (kernel, terminal emulator, screen) and backspace doesn't send ^? by default, file a bug |
| 06:57.06 | enigmus | jm_: ehh, I tried. It's just horrible termcap entries. I was hopping for a quick fix... (shame on me) |
| 06:57.14 | crackhead | jm_: http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-kernel.en.html |
| 06:57.23 | crackhead | jm_: is that the faq you're talking about? |
| 06:57.24 | jm_ | enigmus: it's trivial with bindkey |
| 06:57.30 | jm_ | crackhead: no, /msg dpkg faq |
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| 06:57.44 | enigmus | peterS: well, yes, but not on the remote server on which I'm connected... (redhat...) |
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| 06:58.01 | enigmus | jm_: ok. I must have missed that, thanks. |
| 06:58.02 | Ivanos | how to copy hard-disk to another hard-disk for backup? |
| 06:58.09 | peterS | enigmus: ahhh |
| 06:58.33 | jm_ | Ivanos: read hard disk upgrade mini howto for some ideas |
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| 06:59.56 | enigmus | jm_: Indeed, that's pretty easy. Sorry for the noise. |
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| 07:03.39 | Ivanos | jm_: I look that howto |
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| 07:05.56 | mboso | is there a command to disconnect a user that is logged into your machine through ssh? |
| 07:06.05 | mboso | not killing the process |
| 07:06.28 | Nurbs | why wouldn't you want to kill the process...? |
| 07:06.46 | larsie | isn't his logon the process itself? |
| 07:07.06 | Nurbs | mboso: you probably want to leave some app running, right? |
| 07:07.06 | saloxin | mboso: slay |
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| 07:07.28 | heviarti | is anyone interested in helping with a makefile issue? |
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| 07:08.34 | jm_ | mboso: there's a kernel patch to close any fd if that's what you want |
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| 07:09.06 | mboso | like an actual "disconnect command" |
| 07:09.23 | AnubisPrime | anyone knows of a window manager or desktop environment that is as good looking as Aqua/Quarts for linux? |
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| 07:09.44 | mboso | jm_ : i was just wondering because i found a strange user logged into my computer |
| 07:09.46 | mboso | not good |
| 07:09.49 | LordKahless | is anyone else here having a problem with xmms? |
| 07:09.55 | mboso | they were running something called vadimI |
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| 07:10.20 | AnubisPrime | I was in an apple store today... and I was friggin blown away by OSX 10.3 on a widescreen 23" LCD |
| 07:10.28 | AnubisPrime | the interface is so responsive |
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| 07:10.58 | Ivanos | jm_: In howto I find for copy from old disk on new disk, but that is only "copy", I need copy of partition information, boot master disk, and data (clon of disk) |
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| 07:11.40 | jm_ | mboso: that's a DOS tool |
| 07:11.56 | jm_ | Ivanos: then take a look at partition imager |
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| 07:12.02 | LordKahless | what is libmikmod2? |
| 07:12.11 | mboso | jm_ : ah. so then i guess i was hit by a worm. |
| 07:12.39 | jm_ | mboso: I'd say you were hacked and you're now being used to attack other sites |
| 07:13.01 | mboso | jm_ : i deleted my guest account. closed the ssh port on my router and stopped ssh on my machine. anything else i should do in the short term? |
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| 07:13.52 | jm_ | mboso: run chkrootkit, but it's probably best to reinstall if you can |
| 07:14.28 | mboso | jm_ : i feel violated :-) |
| 07:15.04 | jm_ | mboso: well you must make sure your software is patched if you put it on the internet, I guess you didn't upgrade ssh |
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| 07:15.30 | eye69 | mboso: Getting cracked is actually a quite good experience. You get a lot more security conscious...at least if you have some experience to begin with. |
| 07:15.52 | MBitter_ | Hi, what must I do to get my X-Server accept an connection from an other PC. For example I run 'DISPLAY=192.168.100.24:0.0 xedit' on a different pc (192.168.100.1) to get is displayed on 192.168.100.24 |
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| 07:16.06 | mboso | jm_ : yeah, i guess so. I've been kind of taking it for granded. I had a guest account with a weak password. |
| 07:16.16 | jm_ | MBitter_: it needs to listen for TCP connections (make sure it's firewalled first though) |
| 07:16.20 | mboso | jm_ : that could have been how i tstarted |
| 07:16.27 | GLGuy | I'm interested in trying out Debian,but I'm also interested in using newer software (like xorg-x11)... which am I more likely to be happy with ... testing or unstable? |
| 07:16.39 | jm_ | mboso: there were many attempts to exploit test and guest ssh users lately |
| 07:16.50 | MBitter_ | jm_: it isn't firewalled! On which port should it listen? |
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| 07:17.32 | jm_ | MBitter_: it's 6000 for display :0 and it does that by itself when enabled - but I won't help you since you said it's not firewalled |
| 07:17.57 | mboso | jm_ : ah fuck me. chkrootkit turned up a possible LKM Trojan. 10 processes hidden from readdir and ps |
| 07:18.01 | mboso | ugh |
| 07:18.03 | mboso | shit |
| 07:18.15 | SlayerXP | mboso: that's chkrootkit being stupid |
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| 07:18.40 | SlayerXP | either that or your computer is 0wn3d. |
| 07:18.48 | mboso | SlayerXP : can i double check it with a staticaly compiled ps command or something liek that? |
| 07:18.51 | jm_ | mboso: well it's not always accurate in its report - read the docs for it |
| 07:18.56 | jm_ | SlayerXP: he is 0wned ;) |
| 07:19.44 | SlayerXP | mboso: chkroootkit's method of checking for that contains a really silly race condition |
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| 07:21.57 | eye69 | mboso: Run 'chkrootkit -x lkm' |
| 07:22.14 | TheCount | hiho! :) |
| 07:22.21 | eye69 | mboso: If that doesn't display what processes they are, you've been rooted. |
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| 07:23.24 | mboso | eye69 : ok, it showed them. instances of firefox-bin and xmms |
| 07:23.37 | L_ | bob2, yes my debian all of a sudden ceased to recognized my mouse ,and even knoppix(debian based) wouldn't recognize it |
| 07:23.52 | mboso | i don't feel good abotu this at all. live and learn i guess. |
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| 07:24.10 | L_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:24.50 | enigmus | L_: you should ask a vet. |
| 07:24.57 | retina | anyone here running Win4Lin? |
| 07:24.58 | crackhead | what version of gnome is supported in stable? |
| 07:25.05 | L_ | enigmus, why a vet? |
| 07:25.17 | enigmus | stupid joke? |
| 07:25.30 | eye69 | mboso: Then it's fine. Certain multithreaded processes can show up in chkrootkit as LKM's. Bind and squid are two more that can do that. |
| 07:25.32 | L_ | enigmus, OIC |
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| 07:26.17 | mboso | I think i've been fucked. i deleted the guest account and killed the processes used by it, but for some reason it keeps respawning. eventhough ssh isn't running and i've blocked the port |
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| 07:26.34 | eye69 | mboso: Check the crontab entry for the user. |
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| 07:26.40 | eye69 | crontab -u guest -e |
| 07:26.51 | stiefem | anyone know how to relay certain virtual qmail domains to a host on another port ? |
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| 07:28.28 | mboso | eye69 : its empty |
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| 07:29.25 | eye69 | mboso: They might've placed something in /etc/inittab |
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| 07:30.34 | crackhead | is this still the way to install gnome for stable: http://people.debian.org/~walters/gnome2.html |
| 07:30.34 | crackhead | it looks a little old |
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| 07:31.23 | jm_ | crackhead: those are unofficial packages |
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| 07:31.28 | mboso | eye69 : if i've deleted the account the "person" logged in under, how can they still show up when i use `who`. they have two entries. pts/33 and pts/36 |
| 07:31.34 | mboso | from (mail.oschatz.de) |
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| 07:32.03 | jm_ | mboso: old processes running, kill everything suspicious |
| 07:32.15 | bonez39 | I have printing trouble..I have one printer attached to linux box...another networks on a windows machine...I can manually print using lpr filename from prompt, but not from an application.. |
| 07:33.04 | eye69 | mboso: It's generally not a good idea to just delete accounts like that. Change their password, disable any SSH keys in ~/.ssh, set their $HOME to chmod 700 |
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| 07:33.24 | eye69 | mboso: That keeps information that's important when trying to determine the damage. |
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| 07:33.50 | alexander | hey all |
| 07:33.54 | mboso | eye69 : ah. makes sense |
| 07:34.09 | mboso | eye69 : panicked like a little girl |
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| 07:34.36 | eye69 | mboso: Can you reboot the machine? |
| 07:34.42 | alexander | are there any reasonably good email clients out there that can handle LARGE quantities of messages in one file? were talking 500+ in mbox format? |
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| 07:34.58 | jm_ | alexander: 500+ is fast, try 10000 for slow |
| 07:35.02 | mboso | eye69 : yeah, but for some reason i'm afraid to. |
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| 07:35.15 | mwilson | alexander: mutt |
| 07:35.16 | crackhead | jm_: is there a list of official packages? |
| 07:35.18 | eye69 | mboso: Do 'apt-get --reinstall install sysvinit' |
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| 07:35.22 | alexander | jm_, what do you use? |
| 07:35.44 | jm_ | crackhead: grep-dctrl or dpkg-awk, packages.debian.org or just read Packages.gz files |
| 07:35.50 | jm_ | alexander: sylpheed-claws |
| 07:35.54 | alexander | mwilson, thanks, but this is for my mom, i dont think she would like mutt |
| 07:35.54 | eye69 | mboso: Have you compiled your own kernel? If so, grab a fresh source tree and recompile/install it. |
| 07:35.56 | mboso | eye69 : incase init was touched? |
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| 07:36.23 | eye69 | mboso: chkrootkit should generally find a compromised init, but it's always best to be sure. |
| 07:36.29 | TheCount | wow. them guys on #debian.de are a disgrace. |
| 07:36.33 | mboso | eye69 : yeah, i compiled this myself |
| 07:36.54 | mboso | eye69 : ok, i'll get on that now |
| 07:36.55 | mwilson | alexander: Gee, you ask a question, but you disagree with the answers you get... how about you decide what answer you want beforehand and then you can be given that one? |
| 07:37.10 | eye69 | mboso: After init and kernel have been updated you can probably safely reboot the machine. |
| 07:37.10 | mboso | eye69 : i'm going to reboot first. |
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| 07:37.19 | mboso | eye69 : |
| 07:37.21 | mboso | eye69 : oh |
| 07:37.28 | mwilson | jm_: When did sylpheed start storing mail in mbox? |
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| 07:37.32 | deadcat | alexander: just sign up yahoo.com email fro her (= |
| 07:37.34 | mboso | eye69 : ok. i'll get on the kernel before i reboot |
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| 07:38.12 | TheCount | nobody ever was that rude to me on an irc-channel, I'm impressed. |
| 07:38.12 | mboso | eye69 : it should be safe to copy my .config file from the previous kernel shouldn't it? just a text file. i'm being paranoid |
| 07:38.12 | mboso | :-) |
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| 07:38.32 | peterS | mboso: you can copy it, sure |
| 07:38.37 | eye69 | mboso: Yes. |
| 07:38.42 | peterS | mboso: but it's not ready-to-go yet. you need to run 'make oldconfig' to resync it |
| 07:38.54 | peterS | mboso: or 'make menuconfig', if you planned to make other tweaks at the same time |
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| 07:39.09 | eye69 | I normally just do 'make menuconfig' and save it. |
| 07:39.16 | eye69 | mboso: Which kernel version is this btw? |
| 07:39.23 | xio04 | is there a program in the debian archive to connect to ibm mainframes? |
| 07:39.30 | mboso | eye69 : 2.6.7 |
| 07:39.31 | SlayerXP | xio04: telnet |
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| 07:40.23 | xio04 | SlayerXP, hmm maybe i need to be more specific, i've got attachmate extra enterprise 2000 in windows, it's not just telnet, what would i need to know to find an equivlent linux program |
| 07:40.52 | SlayerXP | xinming: what protocol does that use? |
| 07:41.11 | SlayerXP | err |
| 07:41.15 | SlayerXP | xio04: what protocol does that use? |
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| 07:42.10 | xio04 | SlayerXP thats what i'm trying to figure out, the connection type is tn3270, the display 3270, hmm |
| 07:42.36 | eye69 | mboso: There is apparently a security bug in that version. http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/10852/info/ |
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| 07:44.34 | blazefx | Hey all |
| 07:44.43 | mboso | eye69 : then 2.6.8 shall i go. |
| 07:44.59 | blazefx | what are some good sites with random info about debian, like how tos and what not |
| 07:45.12 | xio04 | ohh i think i need a tn3270 terminal emulator, i bet that is it |
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| 07:46.15 | SlayerXP | blazefx: http://www.google.com/ |
| 07:46.27 | blazefx | LAME |
| 07:46.31 | blazefx | lol |
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| 07:47.12 | mboso | eye69 : X just crashed for no reason. not a good sign i imagine |
| 07:47.21 | SlayerXP | blazefx: if you're having trouble finding anything, you may wish to upgrade your google to the latest version. |
| 07:47.30 | mboso | eye69 : that's happened all of twice all the years i've been using linux |
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| 07:49.14 | blazefx | yeah |
| 07:49.17 | blazefx | smb |
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| 07:52.25 | xerophyte | ould somebody give me regular express to represent this log entry 2004-08-15 22:16:11 1BwYup-0002tM-6e <= error-1-32513751-2035-671264@r.expertsavings.com H=(mta8.expertsavings.com) [38.117.35.40] P=esmtp S=6731 id=1092629497-203532513751@r.expertsavings.com ... so far i have \d{4}-\d{2}-\d{2}\s\d{2}:\d{2}:\d{2}\s\w+\W\w+\W\w+\s<\=/ only need the H=hostname [ip] could somebody help me with it |
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| 07:53.35 | maxian | if I want to install kernal 2.6 (on Sarge using the new installer) how can I do that? |
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| 07:56.20 | mboso | maxian : i did it the log way. installed with the default kernel then after the install set up 2.6 |
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| 08:08.37 | PerfDave | xerophyte: If you only need the hostname, m/![([\d.]+)\]! should do it :) |
| 08:09.03 | comotion | cheers- so, after googling a lot and a walk in the park, I still have a broken nis configuration - nis users won't authenticate, and auth.log has the following entry upon login attempt: sshd: Failed password for ross from 192.168.0.1 port 42715 ssh2 |
| 08:09.04 | PerfDave | Oops, I think I meant m!\[(\d.]+)\]! |
| 08:09.33 | PerfDave | comotion: HAve you told the ssh server to authenticate via NIS in the PAM configuration? |
| 08:09.58 | comotion | PerfDave: no, but this worked before and I didn't touch the ssh server |
| 08:10.23 | comotion | PerfDave: pam_unix.so is the standard module, should authenticate over nis |
| 08:10.40 | sep | worked before _what_ ? |
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| 08:11.19 | comotion | sorry, what I did that broke the damn thing was run 'dpkg-reconfigure login' on the clients, enabling md5 passwords and shadowing |
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| 08:11.53 | comotion | after that I've tried disabling md5 and shadowing in various permutations without success |
| 08:12.11 | PerfDave | comotion: You may need to rewrite your password file or something. |
| 08:12.17 | PerfDave | comotion: Or just use LDAP ;) |
| 08:12.44 | comotion | PerfDave: perhaps you can answer some questions about ldap, as something tells me it would be the ideal solution |
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| 08:13.28 | comotion | 1. can I use password shadowing with ldap? 2. is ldap the beast I heard it was? |
| 08:14.08 | PerfDave | 1) yes - crypt, MD5, SHA or several other algorithms 2) not hugely IME |
| 08:14.09 | comotion | PerfDave: rewrite the password file? I'd have to re-issue passwords to all the users! You mean the nis map? I've done that. |
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| 08:14.36 | PerfDave | *shrug* I've not used NIS really, just thinking of things that might help |
| 08:14.44 | comotion | PerfDave: what's the best resource for an ldap newbie? the ldap howto? |
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| 08:15.06 | PerfDave | comotion: Hang on, let me try and find this URL... |
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| 08:15.21 | kagemajin | comotion: do note that ldap sends info by default in clear text... although adding an encryption layer might slow it down. |
| 08:15.38 | comotion | PerfDave: well, NIS is not an optimum option, but googling for my problem I've seen posts from people who had similar problems to my current one, with ldap |
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| 08:16.16 | PerfDave | http://aqua.subnet.at/~max/ldap/ and http://people.debian.org/~torsten/ldapnss.html are interesting |
| 08:16.25 | PerfDave | comotion: *shrug* I've not had a problem with LDAP |
| 08:16.29 | comotion | kagemajin: the application is local, ie behind a firewall. The security is based upon, if you get r00t you've got everything anyways. |
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| 08:16.57 | PerfDave | kagemajin: Setting up LDAP over SSL isn't significantly harder than setting up LDAP, IME. |
| 08:17.32 | comotion | PerfDave: I haven't had problems with NIS up until now either, so even though I have to get this running by tomorrow, and ldap seems a better way to go, I'd like to figure out what the hellz is goin on |
| 08:18.09 | PerfDave | comotion: Fair enough, I don't think I know enough about NIS to help you. |
| 08:18.17 | comotion | kagemajin: so it doesn't matter if it's cleartext. NIS is cleartext too |
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| 08:18.35 | comotion | PerfDave: that's cool, thanks nevertheless |
| 08:18.49 | jalsti | Could anyone help me to find a list of network adapters supported by Debian? |
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| 08:19.17 | Penix | !test |
| 08:19.18 | dpkg | Yes, penix, you're still online. |
| 08:19.22 | Penix | jalsti: debian has nothing to do with it |
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| 08:19.49 | PerfDave | jalsti: Which architecture? |
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| 08:20.00 | jalsti | i386 |
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| 08:20.50 | PerfDave | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-hardware-req.en.html#s-hardware-supported might be worth RTFMing |
| 08:21.01 | PerfDave | It has links to other resources. |
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| 08:21.31 | jalsti | Thnx, I'll have a look |
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| 08:22.10 | comotion | hm, something more debian-specific: ever since I edited /etc/pam.d/login, 'dpkg-reconfigure login' won't ask me questions. How do I force it to? |
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| 08:22.12 | kokosh1 | hi guys, can ne1 help me set up a radeon 9600 pr card up....ive got a tutorial up, but i got stuck... :( |
| 08:22.39 | ivh | hi, what tool would you use to design a conference poster in A0 format (841mm x 1189 mm) ? scribus? OO-impress? |
| 08:22.42 | comotion | Also, maybe someone knows whether I overwrote something nis-specific in /etc/pam.d/* when reconfiguring to use md5 passwords and shadowing on the client? |
| 08:22.55 | JediMaster | does anyone know if it is possible to use any bootable ISO image and network boot it, e.g. have the iso image on a debian server and boot it through a network boot on another machine? |
| 08:23.17 | JediMaster | I have got network booting to work once, but I couldn't get it to boot an ISO |
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| 08:24.04 | ivh | JediMaster: couldn't you just mount the iso on the server? |
| 08:24.33 | JediMaster | ivh: I guess, but how would it work? |
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| 08:24.56 | JediMaster | ivh: this time it needs to be an OpenBSD 3.5 net install cd *shudder* |
| 08:25.05 | JediMaster | it's only 4Mbytes though |
| 08:25.05 | PerfDave | comotion: It's entirely possible that hand-editing the file has broken dpkg's willingness to overwrite it. Not sure how to fix it - try deleting the file (or rather, moving it somewhere safe) and trying dpkg-reconfigure then? Or possibly "apt-get --reinstall install login" |
| 08:25.18 | mwilson | Why would you bother to do this with an ISO? |
| 08:25.22 | ivh | JediMaster: I have no clue about network-booting, but _somewhere_ must the files that the client uses lie, right? |
| 08:25.37 | Twitching_Fool | need..help..with stupidly silly question. what would the route command be to add a route rule saying destination->default gateway->192.168.0.1 genmask->0.0.0.0 flags->UG and interface->eth0? |
| 08:25.53 | JediMaster | mwilson: because I'm 80 miles away from the network with no machines with a cd-r drive in the building |
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| 08:25.57 | mwilson | Twitching_Fool: What makes you think you have to add routes yourself? |
| 08:25.58 | PerfDave | comotion: "dpkg-reconfigure --force" might also work, but as it says in the manpage, "use with caution" :) |
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| 08:26.12 | comotion | PerfDave: deleting did not help. Reinstalling did not help. --force did not help. |
| 08:26.15 | PerfDave | Twitching_Fool: You probably want to read "man 5 interfaces" and look in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 08:26.19 | JediMaster | mwilson: and I have remote KVM access to the machines =) |
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| 08:26.34 | Twitching_Fool | mwilson: because it clearly hasnt. |
| 08:26.52 | comotion | PerfDave: it's quite weird, really |
| 08:27.03 | PerfDave | comotion: Yes, it does sound wierd :/ |
| 08:27.07 | mwilson | Twitching_Fool: Then undo whatever you've done to break it. |
| 08:27.12 | Twitching_Fool | PerfDave: /etc/network/interfaces is set up correctly (eg: theres a gateway entery) |
| 08:27.21 | PerfDave | comotion: As a last resort, have you checked the BTS? |
| 08:27.43 | Twitching_Fool | mwilson: i havent done anything, the problem is i can ping my gateway, but cant ping anything on the net. |
| 08:28.04 | ivh | Twitching_Fool: may I point you to http://firehol.sourceforge.net/ it's a firewall tool, and the first one that rendered even _me_ possible to create flexible fw-rules and routes easily :-) |
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| 08:28.10 | Twitching_Fool | its a base deb testing install so far |
| 08:28.22 | nailbiter | comotion: have you tried a test passwd, and then a shadow lookup with, say, Perl on the client? |
| 08:28.24 | mwilson | Twitching_Fool: So, are you actually complaining about name resolution not working? |
| 08:28.48 | Twitching_Fool | im complainingthat i cant even ping my name server :\ |
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| 08:29.03 | mwilson | Funny how that wasn't an answer to my question. |
| 08:29.05 | comotion | nailbiter: have tried test password, don't know how to do a shadow lookup |
| 08:29.29 | nailbiter | comotion: perl -le 'print getspnam("bozo")' |
| 08:29.29 | Twitching_Fool | mwilson: if i cant ping my name server then how can i resolve addys? :| |
| 08:29.30 | comotion | PerfDave: don't know what BTS is |
| 08:29.53 | Twitching_Fool | alright, ill reexplain :| |
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| 08:30.00 | mwilson | Don't bother. |
| 08:30.04 | Penix | comotion: /msg dpkg bts |
| 08:30.09 | mwilson | At least not on my account. |
| 08:30.21 | nailbiter | comotion: hm .. that won't work. lemme look this up. |
| 08:30.22 | comotion | aha bugtrack |
| 08:30.23 | mwilson | eighty-two and counting |
| 08:31.00 | kokosh1 | when i try execute ./make.sh it gives out output --- bash: ./make.sh: /bin/bash: bad interpreter: Permision denied --- any ideas?? |
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| 08:31.05 | Twitching_Fool | in my debian stable install, "route" returns 2 lines. in my debian testing install, it returns one line. |
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| 08:31.31 | mwilson | kokosh1: Did you bother to make the script executable? |
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| 08:31.40 | PerfDave | Twitching_Fool: Are there any differences in the /etc/network/interfaces files on each installation? |
| 08:31.57 | kokosh1 | yes, i guess |
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| 08:32.16 | mwilson | You "guess"? Why do you need to guess? Either you did, or you did not. |
| 08:32.25 | kokosh1 | yes i did |
| 08:32.33 | Edward_ | strange.. |
| 08:32.58 | nailbiter | comotion: actually, it does. :) perl's getpwent() will happily fetch shadow passwords. anyway, are you finding that shadow lookups as root work on the client, but shadow lookups as non-root don't work? |
| 08:33.08 | Edward_ | I installed my own kernel.. after 2.6.8.1 I can't boot.. "get this error" |
| 08:33.10 | Edward_ | pivot_root: no such file or directory |
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| 08:33.51 | Twitching_Fool | PerfDave: hmmm, maybe thats it. network 192.168.1.0 instead of 192.168.0.0 |
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| 08:34.56 | PerfDave | You shouldn't need to reboot, you know. Just ifdown your interface and ifup it. |
| 08:35.02 | PerfDave | !reboot |
| 08:35.02 | dpkg | Unlike many proprietary operating systems, GNU/Linux almost never requires a reboot to change something. Most changes take effect immediately; occasionally, you may need to log out and log back in, or restart a particular service. However, unless you are changing kernels or hardware, you should not need to reboot. |
| 08:35.03 | nailbiter | Edward_: that can happen if the initrd fails to mount your root filesystem. what kind of root filesystem do you have? ext3? did you compile support for that into your kernel? or include the ext3.ko module in your initrd if not? |
| 08:35.18 | comotion | nailbiter: I can 'su', yppasswd and passwd on the client, as root and as non-root, but I cannot remotely log in to clients with nis-managed usernames |
| 08:35.24 | Twitching_Fool | PerfDave: im in a different os ;| |
| 08:35.46 | PerfDave | Twitching_Fool: Ah, on the same machine? Fair enough :) |
| 08:36.03 | bonez39 | nailbiter: greetings......any comment on why my cd-rw drive may act flaky? you helped me get it working the other day....some days it works , some not....sometimes i have to reboot my machine and then it works.... |
| 08:36.07 | Edward_ | nailbiter, it's ext3 and it's in my kernel.. |
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| 08:36.22 | Edward_ | nailbiter, the kernel I was running was also one I created myself.. |
| 08:36.42 | Edward_ | nailbiter, this new 2.6.8.1 kernel has the same .config file as my 2.6.7 one so.. |
| 08:36.49 | bonez39 | nailbiter: any ideas? I get a startsec error as well, when running it....with some odd command....telling me to add this or that.....or it says it is seeking media....despite the drive having a fresh disk in already |
| 08:36.50 | comotion | nailbiter: since I'm su'd into a user account, getpwent() returns the root line |
| 08:37.00 | mwilson | Edward_: So it's broken, is what you're saying. |
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| 08:37.25 | PerfDave | comotion: Use "su -" instead? |
| 08:37.57 | Edward_ | mwilson, I don't know... tryed it on a test system also.. same problem.. If I upgrade from my custom to a new custom I get this error.. :( |
| 08:37.58 | nailbiter | comotion: can you try looking up a user that's known to be on NIS? perl -le 'print getpwnam("bozo")' |
| 08:38.16 | Twitching_Fool | bad me :\ |
| 08:38.30 | PerfDave | Enabling telnet is OK, enabling telnetd isn't ;) |
| 08:38.42 | Twitching_Fool | s/telnet/telnetd |
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| 08:38.48 | comotion | PerfDave: I get a bogous line: rootx00root/root/bin/bash in each and any case |
| 08:39.02 | nailbiter | bonez39: hmm .. does this happen at random when you're starting a burn on new media? |
| 08:39.35 | nailbiter | Edward_: hm. are you using an initrd generated by mkinitrd? |
| 08:39.44 | Edward_ | nailbiter, yes.. |
| 08:39.48 | comotion | nailbiter: rossx10031003Some User,,,/home/ross/bin/bash |
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| 08:41.05 | nailbiter | comotion: if you're getting the full shadow entry when you run that as root, but a truncated one with an 'x' placeholder as non-root, then you've probably got to edit the /etc/ypserv.conf file on your NIS server and allow connections from non-privileged ports. |
| 08:41.28 | comotion | it's strange- _some_ nis exchanges are obviouly working, otherwise 'su somenisuser' would return 'unknown user' instead of working |
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| 08:41.35 | Edward_ | the first time I install a kernel it work's fine.. if I recompile and install the same kernel.. (no changes to the config file) I get this error.. |
| 08:41.51 | zite | I installed debian and now I can't boot to my windows drive (I have two, master / slave, slave is debian). I can however mount the windows drive under linux and see all the files, how do I setup dual booting? |
| 08:42.13 | nailbiter | Edward_: as a debugging aid, could you edit the /etc/mkinitrd/mkinitrd.conf file and set DELAY=2 and BUSYBOX=yes? it'll then arrange for the initrd to pause at bootup and allow you to open a shell. |
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| 08:42.57 | nailbiter | Edward_: once you've got a shell, run '/script', and then try to mount your root filesystem manually. it should be easier to figure out why the mount failed then .. |
| 08:43.00 | bonez39 | nailbiter: well, I can write up the tracks, lay them out, and such...but as soon as i go to write them to disk....it will either fail miserably, and not write or proceed...I can't think of anything that changes.... |
| 08:43.17 | Edward_ | nailbiter, ok.. ill try.. need to walk to the server room so can take some time.. |
| 08:43.22 | comotion | nailbiter: you know, that actually makes some sense... |
| 08:43.23 | nailbiter | bonez39: which device are you burning to? /dev/sg0, as last time? |
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| 08:43.42 | Edward_ | there are no script's in /etc/mkinitrd/scripts |
| 08:43.55 | Edward_ | nailbiter: there are no script's in /etc/mkinitrd/scripts |
| 08:44.20 | nailbiter | comotion: it's a weird form of access control: by default, the NIS server won't allow connections from non-privileged port just for the shadow map. |
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| 08:44.42 | nailbiter | Edward_: it'll be /script on the generated initrd's filesystem. you can see it if you mount the initrd and peek inside. |
| 08:44.46 | PerfDave | zite: You want to configure access to Windows in your /etc/lilo.conf and run lilo to install a new boot loader. |
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| 08:45.07 | Edward_ | nailbiter: ok.. ill try it tnx.. |
| 08:45.22 | zite | k, I'll look into that, thanks PerfDave |
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| 08:45.27 | nailbiter | Edward_: ok, good luck. |
| 08:45.50 | zite | I have no lilo.conf in /etc.... |
| 08:46.13 | zite | apt-get? |
| 08:46.31 | bonez39 | nailbiter: yes, to /dev/sg0 |
| 08:46.52 | comotion | nailbiter: yes, I see that entry in the ypserv.conf, but removing it and restarting nis didn't fix things. Also, pam/logins run as root so it'd be rather weird if they couldn't open a privileged port..? |
| 08:47.31 | virtuald | zite: do you use grub? |
| 08:47.33 | nailbiter | bonez39: ok. are you able to do a simple test burn with 'cdrecord'? pick a nice big file (say, 100MB or so in size) and do 'cdrecord dev=/dev/sg0 -dummy -verbose bigfile'? does that fail in the same way? |
| 08:47.43 | zite | ya |
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| 08:47.44 | bonez39 | I just loaded xcdroast, and when I went into to the work area...not set up and such..it opened a box...."Checking Drive for a medium" .. "Using scsi emulation for that drive ..... |
| 08:47.52 | zite | so grub.conf? |
| 08:48.02 | zite | didn't work |
| 08:48.12 | bonez39 | nailbiter: hold , let me try that.... |
| 08:48.22 | cyberyo | io |
| 08:48.24 | nailbiter | comotion: so it's just ssh that's failing to authenticate? can you log in (at the console) as that NIS user? |
| 08:48.28 | virtuald | zite: /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 08:48.40 | virtuald | zite: i think there's already an example in there |
| 08:48.46 | xam | zite: grub.conf? it should rather be /boot/grub/menu.lst ... but /etc/grub.conf is often just a link to that file |
| 08:48.54 | zite | thanks |
| 08:49.06 | xam | zite: man update-grub |
| 08:49.17 | zite | k |
| 08:49.24 | comotion | nailbiter: more likely than not, but I am a bit too far away from *that* keyboard. After updating ypserv.conf I can indeed getpwnam(nis-user) on the client and see the full shadow entry |
| 08:50.34 | PerfDave | Uhm, doesn't Debian use lilo by default? |
| 08:50.36 | comotion | yea, ssh fails to authenticate |
| 08:50.43 | Penix | PerfDave: woody does |
| 08:50.50 | Penix | PerfDave: on x86 anyway |
| 08:51.08 | PerfDave | Penix: That's what I thought, curious that zite has no lilo.conf then. |
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| 08:51.20 | Penix | iirc sarge uses grub |
| 08:51.25 | stiefem | how can i insert a iptables rulle in -t nat -P PREROUTING before rule #1 ? |
| 08:51.38 | zite | sarge uses grub by default, just installed it not long ago |
| 08:51.44 | nailbiter | comotion: hm, rats. |
| 08:51.57 | comotion | nailbiter: I got it |
| 08:52.18 | comotion | nailbiter: more thanks to you than anything, god knows why but it was sshd |
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| 08:52.23 | tarzeau | GRUB is good |
| 08:52.33 | nailbiter | comotion: it was? |
| 08:52.41 | comotion | nailbiter: pretty much the one thing I did _not_ touch at all since before it broke, but still |
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| 08:52.51 | PerfDave | Hmm, guess I'll stick to Woody for as long as possible then ;) |
| 08:52.58 | comotion | PAMAuthenticationViaKbdInt no --> yes |
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| 08:53.11 | comotion | PerfDave: why is that? |
| 08:53.14 | herbi | is gmail actually working for anybody? |
| 08:53.18 | herbi | mine wont accept incoming emails |
| 08:53.22 | comotion | PerfDave: you don't like grub? |
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| 08:53.34 | nailbiter | comotion: i thought that was deprecated a while ago, in favour of the one "UsePam" directive. :) |
| 08:53.50 | bonez39 | nailbiter: yeah, that fails also, the cdrecord |
| 08:53.51 | Twitchin1_Fool | argh, ive copyed a working /etc/resolve.conf and /etc/network/interfaces from woody to sarge, and its still lacking the default route :x |
| 08:53.56 | nailbiter | comotion: well, anyway -- glad to know you've nailed it. :) |
| 08:54.20 | bonez39 | nailbiter: but I bet if I rebooted my linux box..it would work then...for some reason the interface is loosing connection...wherewhere |
| 08:54.27 | nailbiter | bonez39: can you paste the errors spewed out by cdrecord to #flood? |
| 08:54.28 | bonez39 | somewhere |
| 08:54.38 | comotion | nailbiter: don't see a UsePAM here, maybe better to use that, though. The conf files are all from 2001 here ;-) |
| 08:54.50 | PerfDave | comotion: Grub is a mighty pain in the arse. |
| 08:55.11 | Penix | herbi: working fine for me |
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| 08:55.50 | nion | hi |
| 08:55.59 | comotion | PerfDave: only when you use xfs(which I happen to be using) |
| 08:56.09 | Edward_ | nailbiter, I also get: /sbin/init: 217: cannot open dev/console: No such file |
| 08:56.11 | PerfDave | comotion: No, it's a pain in the arse anyway. |
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| 08:56.37 | bonez39 | ok |
| 08:56.38 | nailbiter | Edward_: does that happen after you pivot_root (or chroot) into your real root filesystem? |
| 08:56.47 | comotion | PerfDave: in what ways? I find it's pretty good as a recovery console if some shit hits the fan |
| 08:56.56 | Edward_ | nailbiter, yes after.. |
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| 08:57.02 | PerfDave | comotion: I just found it significantly harder to use and configure than lilo. |
| 08:57.10 | comotion | nailbiter: my woody sshd doesn't have the UsePam directive, my sid one obviously does |
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| 08:57.25 | comotion | PerfDave: Yea, this might be the reason why I still use lilo at home |
| 08:57.31 | nailbiter | Edward_: ok. would that be happening because your new kernel doesn't automatically mount devfs at /dev at boot time? |
| 08:57.54 | nailbiter | Edward_: if that's the case, create a standard set of device nodes in /dev so you'll survive the boot process. |
| 08:58.10 | Edward_ | nailbiter, wel.. I made no changes to the config file so if the old kernel is doing that then the new also must do thet right.. ? |
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| 08:59.11 | nailbiter | Edward_: perhaps you could compare CONFIG_DEVFS_MOUNT and CONFIG_DEVFS_FS in your config-2.6.8.1 and your config-2.6.7 files just in case. :) |
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| 09:00.24 | Twitchin1_Fool | comotion: <3 |
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| 09:00.42 | comotion | anyone here know why PAMAuthenticationViaKbdInt and UsePrivilegeSeparation together are a bad idea in sshd_config? |
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| 09:01.06 | comotion | says something to that effect in the config comments, but the manpage has nothing to say about that |
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| 09:01.48 | comotion | Twitchin1_Fool: real nice.. |
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| 09:02.39 | maciek | hello, can someone help me? i have a little problem with serial ata and newly compiled kernel... |
| 09:03.28 | streuner | maciek: just ask, someone might know... |
| 09:03.37 | maciek | ive compiled new kernel and it see my hdd as scsi device (its serial ata drive on nforce) and my former kernel has seen it as normal device |
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| 09:04.21 | maciek | so when i installed new one it configured grub to start from the drive the old was... and that have changed |
| 09:04.43 | maciek | and i dont know what drive i should pass to boot... |
| 09:04.50 | Twitchin1_Fool | lol, bleh. i give up. im just going to install openbsd on this box too |
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| 09:05.30 | maciek | it just says kernel panic, cant mount hde2 (that was in old kernel) etc... |
| 09:05.30 | Penix | heh |
| 09:05.31 | streuner | maciek: so you think, the change from lilo to grub causes this? |
| 09:05.37 | Penix | atleast he chose something good |
| 09:05.44 | bobibleyboo | Help I have a deb box (testing) whose network has started failing on startup I have tested it with a Linux BBC CD so I know that the hardware is working when I do a cat /proc/pci ot show's up and it looks ok but when I do a ifconfig eth0 up I get "eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No suck device" anyone have any idea's? |
| 09:05.56 | maciek | i see that new kernel is see my disk diffrently |
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| 09:06.12 | maciek | so it might be the reason |
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| 09:06.14 | streuner | maciek: so it works with lilo? |
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| 09:06.22 | maciek | dont have lilo |
| 09:06.25 | maciek | i have grub |
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| 09:07.11 | maciek | at start it detects my drive as "scsi1: WD36GB......" |
| 09:07.17 | nailbiter | bobibleyboo: you installed a new kernel on that system, after which your ethernet device no longer appears? |
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| 09:07.34 | maciek | and in former kernel it was "hde: WD...." |
| 09:07.38 | streuner | maciek: what kernel is it? |
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| 09:07.40 | bobibleyboo | nope it froze up I rebooted and now it noworkey |
| 09:07.44 | maciek | 2.6.8.1 |
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| 09:07.55 | bobibleyboo | kernel 2.4.25 |
| 09:08.05 | Yngwie | anyone know where I can get zlib-devel for de? |
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| 09:08.15 | Penix | Yngwie: apt-cache search zlib |
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| 09:08.19 | nailbiter | bobibleyboo: what kind of network card do you have in there? |
| 09:08.20 | streuner | maciek: wha happens if you use an official kernel? |
| 09:08.25 | Yngwie | Penix, Tried that, not there |
| 09:08.26 | streuner | s/wha/what/ |
| 09:08.29 | SDan67 | Hi everybody |
| 09:08.34 | Penix | Yngwie: yes, it is |
| 09:08.40 | Yngwie | Penix, zlib-devel anyway |
| 09:08.41 | maciek | heh... it doesnt see my network card :) but the disk works... |
| 09:08.47 | Penix | Yngwie: zlib1g-dev - compression library - development |
| 09:08.55 | maciek | but also not as scsi drive |
| 09:09.26 | SDan67 | maciek, what are you trying to do? |
| 09:09.26 | streuner | maciek: ok, so you make a mistake in config of your custom kernel then... |
| 09:09.27 | Yngwie | Penix, blush blush excuse me |
| 09:09.27 | comotion | bobibleyboo: is it by any chance an intel eepro100 nic? |
| 09:09.28 | maciek | only in official its known as scsi... btw the drivers are on scasi page in kernel config... |
| 09:09.33 | bonez39 | how do I find out what my Gateway or remote wan IP address is? |
| 09:09.39 | bobibleyboo | nope I achecking |
| 09:09.56 | bonez39 | anything I can run to show me? |
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| 09:09.59 | maciek | SDan67 im trying to figure out how to make new kernel to boot :) |
| 09:10.03 | SDan67 | could i help? |
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| 09:10.20 | maciek | mayby :) heres the problem: |
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| 09:10.39 | maciek | ive compiled new kernel and it see my drive diffrently than old one was |
| 09:10.40 | bobibleyboo | sorry about the typing crappy keyboard it is a linksys NC100 (It is built in to the board) |
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| 09:11.00 | maciek | old detected as hde.... and new as scsi1 |
| 09:11.10 | maciek | so i dont know what to set in grub to boot... |
| 09:11.21 | comotion | bobibleyboo: and is it supported and the driver compiled into the kernel or loaded as a module? |
| 09:11.42 | bohrbug | will I experience much trouble going from testing to unstable? Testing works, has been working for 6 months, but I feel drawn to unstable |
| 09:12.09 | streuner | bohrbug: /msg dpkg sid faq |
| 09:12.09 | Phated | bohrbug: I say go for it if you're prepared to deal with breakage. |
| 09:12.14 | comotion | bohrbug: depends on how hardcore you are :-) I put my newbie linux converts on sid |
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| 09:12.23 | nailbiter | bobibleyboo: hm. could you run "pcimodules --class 0x00020000 --classmask 0x00ff0000"? that (should) print out the matching kernel module for your Ethernet card .. |
| 09:12.31 | Phated | comotion: Cruel bastard or angel, you are. |
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| 09:12.47 | bohrbug | Breakage, for sure, bot wont broken things be fixed much sooner than testing? |
| 09:12.55 | Phated | bohrbug: Possibly. :) |
| 09:13.17 | comotion | Phated: well, if you're gonna be tech support for everyone you know anyways, might as well hook them up with what you like to use, right? |
| 09:13.31 | Phated | comotion: True, true. |
| 09:14.03 | PerfDave | bonez39: look in /etc/network/interfaces for the gateway stuff? |
| 09:14.04 | bobibleyboo | It is loading tulip and via-rhine |
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| 09:14.28 | PerfDave | I wouldn't want to put a newbie onto sid. Hell, I don't want to put newbies onto testing. |
| 09:14.39 | nailbiter | bobibleyboo: 'pcimodules' doesn't actually load any modules; it just prints out ones which it thinks matches your hardware. but _both_ "via-rhine" and "tulip"? have you got two cards in there? |
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| 09:15.15 | comotion | bohrbug: sometimes an apt-get upgrade will mess up something random, there'll be bugs in your day-to-day programs, and sometimes apt will keel over and die intermittedly. Nothing serious if you have a cool head, and on my end the benefits outweigh the annoyances |
| 09:15.18 | bobibleyboo | I believe that those are the correct drivers I added a dfe538tx to see if I could a least get a net connection working so that I ould go to bed but no dice |
| 09:15.24 | bohrbug | PerfDave: But how can you convince newbies that Linux as a desktop is cool when you run woody |
| 09:15.33 | PerfDave | bohrbug: What's uncool about woody? |
| 09:15.36 | comotion | bohrbug: usually when you run into a problem with a package, someone's already filed the bug on bugs.d.o |
| 09:15.40 | bobibleyboo | but those are the correct modules for the cards |
| 09:15.40 | tarzeau | PerfDave: way outdated |
| 09:15.45 | bohrbug | PerfDave: It is *old* |
| 09:15.46 | tarzeau | www.linuks.mine.nu/workstation/ |
| 09:15.53 | tarzeau | sid is easier than testing |
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| 09:16.03 | tarzeau | testing is good to fix stuff that break in sid |
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| 09:16.07 | PerfDave | bohrbug: It's old, but it works, and it's stable, and it doesn't get fucked up with viruses and worms. That's what most people give a shit about IME. |
| 09:16.08 | comotion | bobibleyboo: /etc/network/interfaces in good order? is the driver loading according to dmesg? |
| 09:16.17 | bohrbug | comotion: thanks, I'll upgrade once I have a kids-free weekend :) |
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| 09:16.22 | nailbiter | bonez39: run 'route' to dump your routing table. :) the route to '0.0.0.0', with a non-zero gateway is your default route. |
| 09:16.24 | PerfDave | bohrbug: You get people using sid, the minute something goes wrong they'll go back to Windows. |
| 09:16.38 | bohrbug | PerfDave: That is true |
| 09:16.39 | comotion | bohrbug: another thing - it's obviously not a production system, right? |
| 09:16.58 | nailbiter | bonez39: if you want a slightly more readable route dump, run 'ip route list' (after installing 'iproute'). |
| 09:17.11 | bohrbug | comotion: My personal computer (which, to me, is production :) |
| 09:17.11 | comotion | I would have a heart-attack every time I did an upgrade if I had 30+ users on the machine |
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| 09:17.42 | bobibleyboo | interfaces looks good how do you get the dsmeg output? |
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| 09:18.09 | comotion | bohrbug: well, then you should be fine; just remember that the limited warranty applies; something brakes, and you get to come here and cry about it ;-) |
| 09:18.10 | ReVisions | hey all, where can i find net install cd's? |
| 09:18.11 | Knight_Lord | Does anyone know how to remove a node from a running cluster in PBS, or where i could find more information about it? |
| 09:18.28 | streuner | !tell ReVisions about netinstall |
| 09:18.30 | bohrbug | comotion: Sure :) |
| 09:18.48 | nailbiter | bobibleyboo: so those two drivers have been loaded, but 'eth0' and 'eth1' haven't appeared? |
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| 09:19.03 | nikolas | can someone point me to a howto for a smtp/pop3/webmail solution that works fine on debian and is easy to set up ? |
| 09:19.18 | herbi | who wants to paypal me $3! :D |
| 09:19.20 | herbi | haha |
| 09:19.39 | ReVisions | streuner: i want sarge not woody |
| 09:19.41 | K-Rich | anyone know where i can get older nvidia-kernel sources (i need prior to 6106) |
| 09:19.41 | nailbiter | nikolas: postfix for SMTP; qpopper for POP3; uw-imapd for IMAP; squirrelmail/apache for webmail. :) |
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| 09:19.47 | bobibleyboo | ifstate shows only lo=lo eth0 is set to auto in interfaces |
| 09:19.51 | PetrifiedSap | What's the dhcpd on debian.. there are a few.. but they don't like my dhcpd.conf! |
| 09:20.01 | streuner | ReVisions; and? upgrade to sarge then |
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| 09:20.06 | Twitchin1_Fool | *cough*, disregard last 2 lines. worked it out ;) |
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| 09:20.24 | streuner | ReVisions: or /msg dpkg d-i |
| 09:20.24 | ReVisions | streuner: i dont know y, but i cant compile kernel 2.6 |
| 09:20.26 | geomaster | hy i try to install wget |
| 09:20.30 | geomaster | and i get this: |
| 09:20.30 | geomaster | configuring for GNU Wget 1.5.3 |
| 09:20.31 | geomaster | checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu |
| 09:20.31 | geomaster | checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes |
| 09:20.31 | geomaster | checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c |
| 09:20.31 | geomaster | checking for gcc... gcc |
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| 09:20.36 | nikolas | nailbiter: did you ever did such a configuration to give me some tips about it ? |
| 09:20.37 | comotion | bobibleyboo: dmesg | grep eth |
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| 09:20.40 | jm_ | geomaster: go away |
| 09:20.46 | geomaster | :(( |
| 09:21.01 | streuner | ReVisions: You don't need it, apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.x |
| 09:21.18 | comotion | bobibleyboo: suspicious, ifstate should show eth0=eth0 as well |
| 09:21.49 | nailbiter | nikolas: uw-imapd and qpopper are configurationless. the default squirrelmail config ought to work just fine. it's postfix that you probably want to find a HOWTO for. :) |
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| 09:21.54 | bobibleyboo | where is the dsmeg output stored? |
| 09:22.04 | streuner | /var/log/dmesg |
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| 09:22.19 | nailbiter | bobibleyboo: /var/log/kern.log (but only if you've got klogd running). |
| 09:22.25 | bobibleyboo | thanx |
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| 09:22.42 | nikolas | nailbiter: can i talk to you on private just for one minute ? |
| 09:22.51 | streuner | ReVisions: get the testing/sarge installer (d-i) (/list #debian-boot) or install via woody/stable and upgrade then... |
| 09:23.17 | nailbiter | nikolas: why not just ask here? :) |
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| 09:24.28 | nikolas | nailbiter: the problem is that i whant a way to add users for my domain from a web interface.... any ideea how can i do that ? |
| 09:25.00 | nailbiter | nikolas: oh. how many domains are you hosting mail services for? just the one? |
| 09:25.18 | nikolas | yes just one |
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| 09:25.51 | comotion | nikolas: write a perl/php script that calls 'sudo adduser $user'? <evil grin> |
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| 09:26.33 | nikolas | comotion: on this domain i'll have at leat 200 users... |
| 09:26.33 | nailbiter | nikolas: the simplest way to do this would be to give every mail user a system account. |
| 09:26.49 | Guerin-BMF | nikolas: there are plenty of php frontends which can interface with a database |
| 09:27.02 | nailbiter | nikolas: you can either whip up a PHP script to create and delete accounts at will, or use a web-based front-end like webmin to do it. |
| 09:27.20 | nikolas | Guerin-BMF: yes..... any ideea if debian pkg are now fix so i can finaly use postfix/mysql ? |
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| 09:27.37 | Guerin-BMF | nikolas: I use postfixadmin; if you're using sql you can even add them amnually via phpmyadmin or something |
| 09:27.38 | K-Rich | anyone know if the drivers from the nvidia site will work with debian? |
| 09:27.39 | cafuego | nikolas: I'd recommend postfix+courier+mysql |
| 09:28.05 | Guerin-BMF | nikolas: what's wrong with the debian packages? |
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