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| 00:00.24 | DemiGuru | AdrianLP: Don't think so |
| 00:00.55 | DemiGuru | AdrianLP: just do a grep check which ones are installed on your system |
| 00:01.36 | space_cow_boy | is the VGA for xwindows driver the same as the SVGA driver? |
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| 00:01.42 | slisher | a couple of weeks ago someone told me how to get the Shutdown/Reboot options on my login screen but I forgot how. Anyone know? |
| 00:01.44 | AdrianLP | DemiGuru: The only one I haven't installed is dhcp3-dev. |
| 00:02.06 | DemiGuru | AdrianLP: Running sarge? |
| 00:02.25 | AdrianLP | DemiGuru: testing. I always forget the codenames. |
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| 00:02.48 | DemiGuru | AdrianLP: testing = sarge |
| 00:03.30 | AdrianLP | K, running sarge then. |
| 00:03.47 | DemiGuru | Adrian: OK so I'm running dhcp-client version 2.0pl5-19 |
| 00:04.05 | Elimin8or | everytime I run apache2 I get this error when I try accesing it: [notice] child pid 8954 exit signal Segmentation fault (11) <-- any clue how I can fix this? |
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| 00:04.48 | AdrianLP | DemiGuru: Umm... ok. |
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| 00:05.11 | DemiGuru | AdrianLP: I'm running sarge too - thought that might help |
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| 00:05.28 | Nurbs | Elimin8or: upgrade, check the BTS |
| 00:05.30 | Wyzard | Can someone recommend a good DNS registrar for a person in the US to use? |
| 00:05.39 | Elimin8or | Nurbs BTS? |
| 00:05.44 | dagas | Oh el dios de bhaal ha depertado! |
| 00:05.45 | Nurbs | !bts |
| 00:05.45 | dpkg | from memory, bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or anyone running unstable who's unable to check the BTS should be shot on sight. apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. sid users, apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges |
| 00:05.52 | AdrianLP | DemiGuru: I read in the dhclient.conf that you can pretty much leave the default config. I'm changing from that now. |
| 00:06.05 | AdrianLP | DemiGuru: Although I would not know why my client can't update. |
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| 00:06.54 | DemiGuru | AdrianLP: I remember that I had to run dhcp3 when I upgrade woody to 2.6 |
| 00:07.09 | DemiGuru | AdrianLP: Upgraded |
| 00:07.29 | AdrianLP | DemiGuru: That's what I have. |
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| 00:08.34 | DemiGuru | AdrianLP: Try just apt-getting dhcp-client see what happens |
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| 00:08.44 | nichos | hi all, i have a usb "jump" drive that i want to put into fstab, but the /dev point keeps chaning (sdd1, sdc1...etc) how can i make it static? |
| 00:09.19 | DemiGuru | nichos: Change it to read only |
| 00:09.38 | nichos | DemiGuru any other way? i have to rw to it |
| 00:09.38 | Wyzard | nichos: You can't prevent it from changing, but udev can recognize it no matter what device it gets, and create a symlink with a known name |
| 00:09.47 | Wyzard | DemiGuru: umm... no |
| 00:10.02 | nichos | Wyzard ill have to check into that, sounds just like what im looking for |
| 00:10.31 | Wyzard | nichos: It's a new thing, still under development... you won't see it in mainstream distros for awhile yet, but it's usable |
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| 00:10.51 | nichos | Wyzard its in unstable;) |
| 00:10.58 | Wyzard | DemiGuru: Write-protecting a flash drive has no effect on what device name the kernel assigns it when you plug it in |
| 00:11.00 | Wyzard | nichos: yep |
| 00:11.09 | Wyzard | nichos: Read up on it before you install it though |
| 00:11.25 | nichos | Wyzard indeed, thanks again |
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| 00:11.35 | Wyzard | nichos: It's the replacement for devfs, which means it's very different from your traditional /dev |
| 00:11.40 | AdrianLP | DemiGuru: and do away with dhclient? |
| 00:12.27 | DemiGuru | AdrianLP: you are installing dhcp-client but not dhcp3 |
| 00:12.51 | AdrianLP | Replace dhclient with dhcp-client? |
| 00:13.08 | DemiGuru | AdrianLP: I would try that |
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| 00:13.42 | slisher | How do I get the system menu on the debian login window? |
| 00:13.49 | AdrianLP | DemiGuru: So dhcp-client is better than dhcp3-client? |
| 00:14.20 | DemiGuru | AdrianLP: I honestly don't know if it's better but it does work |
| 00:15.09 | AdrianLP | DemiGuru: K. |
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| 00:15.52 | space_cow_boy | !fontfixed |
| 00:17.00 | AdrianLP | DemiGuru: dhcp-client installed. I see no config file or folder for it in /etc, nor is there a manpage for dhcp-client. Where should the config be? |
| 00:17.23 | bolivar | what's the package name for the java web plugin if there is one? |
| 00:17.29 | DemiGuru | AdrianLP: Let me check |
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| 00:19.58 | DemiGuru | AdrianLP: /etc/logwatch/conf/services/dhcpd.conf |
| 00:20.35 | justin | DemiGuru: nice try |
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| 00:20.46 | DemiGuru | justin: Where is it then? |
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| 00:21.17 | justin | AdrianLP: why don't you look at the list of files in the dhcp-client package |
| 00:21.21 | Gumby | ok, someone here has to be able to help me out. I am trying to get my prism2 wireless card working but I cant seem to figure out which driver to use with a 2.6 kernel. Ive used linux-wlan-ng driver modules before in mandrake but I cant get it to work in debian. Can anyone offer a hand? I am going nuts here |
| 00:21.47 | AdrianLP | DemiGuru: I updatedb then tried to locate dhcpd.conf, seems I don't have one. |
| 00:22.23 | Gumby | adriaan: dhcpd.conf is for the dhcp server |
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| 00:23.00 | AdrianLP | That's not what I want then. |
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| 00:23.15 | DemiGuru | Gumby: I'm not running the server thought |
| 00:23.21 | DemiGuru | Gumby: though |
| 00:23.27 | AdrianLP | I tried to locate all files with dhcp in them. I have no binaries. Does dhcp-client not provide a binary? Or its just a script perhaps. |
| 00:23.30 | bolivar | gumby: this help ? http://stefan.desire.ch/howto/tp570debian/ |
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| 00:23.34 | justin | AdrianLP: why don't you look at the list of files in the dhcp-client package |
| 00:24.17 | smagy | hello folks is there a good reason why someone would use 2 partition of 2GB each instead of one big 4GB swap parition on an SMP system ? |
| 00:24.21 | AdrianLP | justin: Sure. how? |
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| 00:24.30 | justin | AdrianLP: with dpkg |
| 00:24.33 | Nurbs | smagy: on two different disks...? |
| 00:24.37 | Gumby | DemiGuru: exactly...so no need for that file...hehe |
| 00:25.29 | Nurbs | smagy: there shouldn't be any reason besides speed if the swap was on different disks |
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| 00:25.56 | AdrianLP | justin: dpkg -c dhcp-client ? |
| 00:26.05 | DemiGuru | Gumby: can't a client run as a daemon? |
| 00:26.30 | Gumby | DemiGuru: what are you trying to do exactly? |
| 00:27.16 | justin | AdrianLP: no, thats for a .deb file, you want the flag with "list" in it |
| 00:27.21 | DemiGuru | Gumby: I'm trying to help AdrianLP decipher the way dhcp-client works |
| 00:27.46 | justin | DemiGuru: stop trying |
| 00:28.02 | DemiGuru | justin: :-) |
| 00:28.04 | AdrianLP | justin: I see, -L |
| 00:28.22 | justin | AdrianLP: now, run that on dchp-client and be amazed |
| 00:28.52 | AdrianLP | justin: Done pervious. Yes, very useful. |
| 00:29.06 | sussudio | !maint gcc3.3 |
| 00:29.57 | justin | sussudio: compiler gnomes |
| 00:30.17 | AdrianLP | Ok, binary is /sbin/dhclient. Which I ran, doesn't seem to be ending. Can't terminate it. Does it ever exit, or should I have ran it with & ? |
| 00:30.32 | Gumby | dhclient eth0 |
| 00:30.37 | The_Vulture | AdrianLP: don't run it at all |
| 00:30.44 | The_Vulture | set things up in /etc/network/interfaces properly instead |
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| 00:31.08 | initech | smagy: i don't think so, and in any case you are in deep shit if you are using that much swap! |
| 00:31.23 | AdrianLP | The_Vulture: That's my mistake then. I can't kill it. Its essentially locked me out. Can't stuff it into the background either. |
| 00:31.25 | Gumby | initech: you scared hi |
| 00:31.25 | Gumby | m |
| 00:31.42 | The_Vulture | AdrianLP: so switch to another term and use kill |
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| 00:32.22 | AdrianLP | The_Vulture: Gah, I'll have to sit on the box for a moment. It's no longer accessible on the network. |
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| 00:33.57 | jzxu | if I run mozilla via ssh X tunnel, is there anyway a computer between my computer and my ssh host machine can see what I'm looking at? |
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| 00:34.41 | JoePenguin | jzxu: the only thing they will see is encrypted ssh traffic |
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| 00:36.02 | jzxu | okay |
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| 00:37.58 | rover | I'm trying to upgrade gcc-3.3 in testing and getting an error. I'm pasting the error in #flood. |
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| 00:38.44 | initech | jzxu: no i do that at work to bypass the stupid proxy myself |
| 00:39.36 | jzxu | initech: looks like someone has a case of the mondays |
| 00:39.52 | initech | GOD IF I EVER HEAR THAT AGAIN! |
| 00:40.05 | justin | initech: MAYBE YOU SHOULD CHANGE YOUR NAME |
| 00:40.06 | jzxu | sorry |
| 00:40.15 | initech | jzxu: i'm kidding |
| 00:40.43 | initech | jzxu: <shrug> that's what he says in the movie |
| 00:40.44 | jzxu | I can see how it can get old really fast |
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| 00:41.51 | initech | wait no it was "i belive if you said that where i work, you'd get your ass kicked" |
| 00:42.22 | jzxu | "No, no man. I do believe you'd get your ass kicked for saying something like that." |
| 00:42.22 | ArkiMedeS | i have installed kde 3.3 with sid but when I close the session with a user that is not root , I have to reset the computer, keyboard not works....mouse... |
| 00:42.38 | initech | jzxu: yeah that's it! |
| 00:42.53 | sussudio | ~samir |
| 00:42.54 | apt | Back up in your ass with the resurrection! |
| 00:42.54 | lilo | what's up? |
| 00:42.55 | lilo | oops |
| 00:43.24 | justin | lilo: fine, we didn't want to talk to you anyway |
| 00:43.42 | initech | apt: ok, now i;m breakin out the geto boys |
| 00:43.44 | apt | initech: are you using Windows? |
| 00:43.56 | initech | apt: ? no debian sid |
| 00:43.58 | apt | initech: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
| 00:44.15 | Piggy | man, it feels good to be a pigstah. |
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| 00:44.34 | initech | apt: you lost me there |
| 00:44.35 | apt | initech: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
| 00:45.08 | Vulcanius | are there any good tutorials on setting up an ethernet card for deb? |
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| 00:45.30 | sussudio | Vulcanius: man interfaces |
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| 00:45.43 | Vulcanius | k |
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| 00:46.07 | nvz | well I did something stupid again.. |
| 00:46.28 | lilo | nobody restricts private messages |
| 00:46.29 | lilo | oops |
| 00:47.02 | nvz | I have compiled a kernel without setting ext2fs to y, its m, so if I have ext3=y, can I change it to ext3 and the kernel will boot? or no? |
| 00:47.06 | chaching | any tips on how to change monitor resolutions? it seems that dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 isn't editing my XFree86-config file. can anyone help? |
| 00:47.19 | AdrianLP | Drat, SIOCSIFADDR complains a file exists, and SIOCSIFNETMASK cannot assign the request address (requested?), and eth0 can't come up. Hmm. |
| 00:47.47 | initech | chaching: the XF86Config-4 file really is not that intimidating to edit, just put the res in there and try it |
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| 00:48.56 | chaching | initech, actually, i did add it, but when i try to change the resolution in gnome, i only get 3 resolutions... 640x480 , 800x600 and 1024x768.. is there any other way i can add to that? |
| 00:49.29 | initech | chaching: yes, add them in there |
| 00:50.21 | chaching | initech, how do i add resolutions in gnome? coz i already added them to my XF86Config-4 file. |
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| 00:50.41 | initech | chaching: you don't, it get that from X |
| 00:51.32 | chaching | initech, ic..but for some reason it won't. i'll try to figure out what's wrong.. thanks for you help man. =] |
| 00:51.33 | initech | or rather i am not familiar with whatever res switching tools there are in gnome, sorry |
| 00:52.24 | chaching | initech, hehe.. thanks anyway! =] |
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| 00:53.37 | marcello | hi i had actually installed debian testing with kernel 2.6.7/2.6.8 but i had a problem with no work of the nvidia nforce2 audio |
| 00:53.42 | marcello | how can i solve it? |
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| 00:54.47 | Xsquared | hey |
| 00:54.50 | Xsquared | i'm back |
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| 00:55.10 | cafuego | marcello: Buy decent hardware. |
| 00:55.28 | Xsquared | why does my gnome session log me out when i go to a bash shell? |
| 00:55.55 | marcello | cafuego: lspci give me: 0000:00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 AC97 Audio Controler (MCP) (rev a1) |
| 00:56.00 | cafuego | marcello: Buy decent hardware. |
| 00:56.08 | JoePenguin | Xsquared: go to toe shell how? CTRL-ALT-F1? |
| 00:56.13 | Xsquared | yes |
| 00:56.26 | marcello | ecs motherboard are nog decent hardware? |
| 00:56.30 | JoePenguin | Xsquared: What happens when you press ALT-F7 after that? |
| 00:56.31 | cafuego | marcello: nvidia is NOT decent hardware, as far as I'm concerned. |
| 00:56.33 | initech | marcello: unfortunatly, the nforce stuff is infamously unfriendly to linux/free software |
| 00:56.42 | Xsquared | it logs me out |
| 00:56.48 | cafuego | marcello: Email nvidia and tell them to give you a driver that works. |
| 00:56.55 | Xsquared | only if i'm running a program, say bitchx or iptraf |
| 00:57.04 | JoePenguin | Xsquared: all I can tell you is to read /var/log/X*.log for clues |
| 00:57.09 | JoePenguin | Xsquared: that's never happens to me |
| 00:57.12 | Xsquared | k, thanks |
| 00:57.24 | marcello | i tink that ac97 is supported under linux |
| 00:57.31 | marcello | network card work fine |
| 00:57.31 | dub | america... this is your life http://lart.ath.cx/tard.txt |
| 00:57.41 | jzxu | as I understand it, the xbox uses an nforce-like board, and people have successfully put linux on that right? |
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| 00:59.44 | initech | jzxu: nevertheless, i would not get an nforce based board to put linux on |
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| 01:03.51 | cafuego | Well, development had mainly gone into nforce ide chipsets, they work fine. it's the add-on crap like nforce audio and nforce ethernet that's not properly supported (yet) |
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| 01:08.33 | LxUsar | how do i make a usefull backup ??? i heard of a method of backup the sources.list and another file where the installed package definition is installed... what is the name of the file ? |
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| 01:10.00 | slowhog | where can I find xorg deb? Google shows none |
| 01:10.17 | Nurbs | there are probably none. |
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| 01:12.30 | simon_ | i'm trying to get my 56k modem working |
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| 01:12.56 | siimo | simon_, internal/external ? |
| 01:12.56 | Basic | slowhog? deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian ../project/experimental main |
| 01:12.56 | Basic | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:12.56 | Basic | ? |
| 01:12.56 | Basic | just guessing |
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| 01:13.07 | simon_ | internnal |
| 01:13.09 | IrishKitty | I have just installed testing, and when I did an apt-get install gcc it barfs errors about a broken pipe when trying to install the files |
| 01:13.46 | IrishKitty | can anyone suggest how to fix this? is it a known bug ? |
| 01:14.00 | zarchne | IrishKitty: I can tell you you're not alone. |
| 01:14.03 | s0up3rman | is there something special you have to do when using apt-get to upgrade gcc,libstdc, g++, and libg2c0? |
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| 01:14.09 | siimo | simon_, good luck most dont work if its a connexant chipset goto www.linuxant.com ltmodems have drivers too |
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| 01:14.24 | IrishKitty | sounds like the packaging is fubar |
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| 01:14.29 | s0up3rman | im getting errors when its trying to overwrite stuff |
| 01:14.35 | dasboot | bahadunn, hi m8te |
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| 01:15.27 | slowhog | Basic, thanks |
| 01:15.35 | IrishKitty | s0up3rman: thats what I get too |
| 01:15.49 | IrishKitty | hmm, is there an easy way to find out the bus ID of my GFX card ? |
| 01:15.54 | s0up3rman | yeah, i just tried a dist-upgrade |
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| 01:16.05 | Fulcrum99 | This is probably a common question, forgive me. How do I get SASL authentication to work with secrets stored in the LDAP database (userPassword)? I always get SASL(-13): user not found: no secret in database |
| 01:16.15 | zarchne | IrishKitty: lspci? |
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| 01:17.32 | Error_X | When I try to apt-get g++, I get: g++: Depends: g++-3.3. etc..... |
| 01:17.35 | Xsquared | chow everyone |
| 01:17.38 | ahilan | anyone here have experience printer sharing using cups? |
| 01:17.42 | ahilan | to other unix systems? |
| 01:17.42 | bofh80 | so like is 3 hours normal for kernel compile time? |
| 01:17.53 | dondelelcaro | Error_X: yes, because g++ is just a meta package. |
| 01:17.56 | Basic | Why debhelper kick me for flood? I wasn't even talking! |
| 01:18.05 | Error_X | dondelelcaro: so, how do I install g++ then? :P |
| 01:18.12 | bofh80 | cos if it is, it's one hell of a job because a module doesn't work properly.... |
| 01:18.13 | dondelelcaro | Basic: you were either seriously lagged, or something else. |
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| 01:18.25 | Error_X | The whole c++ programming libs |
| 01:18.26 | dondelelcaro | Error_X: just apt-get install g++; it should pull g++-3.3 et al. |
| 01:18.41 | dondelelcaro | Error_X: uh, that's just the c++ compiler... |
| 01:18.47 | Error_X | I need the libs too |
| 01:18.51 | IrishKitty | no, |
| 01:18.56 | ahilan | for some reason, remote printing documents won't get ghostscript run on it |
| 01:18.58 | IrishKitty | the package dependencies is fubar |
| 01:19.00 | Error_X | But, I can't install g++ |
| 01:19.02 | Error_X | :-/ |
| 01:19.11 | s0up3rman | something got borked? |
| 01:19.12 | dondelelcaro | Error_X: you just need the libraries that you're going to use. |
| 01:19.20 | dondelelcaro | Error_X: what does apt-get install g++ do? |
| 01:19.36 | dondelelcaro | Error_X: and which version of debian are we talking about here? |
| 01:19.50 | sussudio | dondelelcaro: gcc 3.3 is borked in sarge at the moment |
| 01:20.00 | Error_X | wel..: g++: "Depends: g++-3.3 (>= 1:3.3.4-1) but is not going to be installed" |
| 01:20.05 | Error_X | I use sarge |
| 01:20.09 | sussudio | Error_X: apt-get install apt-listbugs |
| 01:20.13 | dondelelcaro | !depends g++ sarge |
| 01:20.17 | Error_X | But, it worked for a couple a days ago |
| 01:20.26 | dondelelcaro | !info g++-3.3 sarge |
| 01:20.26 | dpkg | g++: depends on cpp (>= 4:3.3.4-2), gcc (>= 4:3.3.4-2), g++-3.3 (>= 1:3.3.4-1), gcc-3.3 (>= 1:3.3.4-1) |
| 01:20.29 | dpkg | g++-3.3: (The GNU C++ compiler), section devel, is standard. Version: 1:3.3.4-6sarge1.1 (sarge), Packaged size: 1783 kB, Installed size: 3788 kB |
| 01:20.32 | sussudio | dondelelcaro: it's a --force-overwrite thing. |
| 01:20.50 | Error_X | So, is it safe to force it? :P I have used it before on sarge |
| 01:20.51 | ahilan | are there by chance any irc channels for CUPS? |
| 01:20.56 | dondelelcaro | sussudio: hrm... that's different then what he's seeing. |
| 01:20.58 | bofh80 | wheres a good channel to hang while your getting drunk waiting for a kernel compile |
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| 01:21.21 | sussudio | that and the "libstdc++5-3.3-dev: Depends: g++-3.3 (>= 1:3.3.4-6sarge1.1) but 1:3.3.4-6sarge1 is installed" thing |
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| 01:21.41 | Error_X | I can't do a force install either |
| 01:21.41 | dasboot | sussudio, Just Say the Word ! |
| 01:21.42 | dondelelcaro | sussudio: well, that would do it... |
| 01:21.46 | Xenguy | bofh80: you found it ;-) |
| 01:21.55 | DarknessX | Hi -- I've got here a 20 gig laptop, upon which all 20 gigs are NTFS. I'd like to take off 7 of them as ext3, is it safe to do such with like cfdisk? |
| 01:22.03 | Error_X | dondelelcaro: Are you in #flood? |
| 01:22.12 | dondelelcaro | Error_X: yes. |
| 01:22.16 | Fulcrum99 | Can someone give me some help with OpenLDAP/SASL? |
| 01:22.21 | simon_ | if i do scanpci, it picks up that i have a rockwell international HCF 56k Data/Fax Modem |
| 01:22.37 | Xenguy | bofh80: helps if you use Debian too, but not strictly necessary either ;-) |
| 01:22.54 | dondelelcaro | Error_X: dpkg --force-overwrite -i /var/cache/apt/archives/gcc-3.3_1%3a3.3.4-6sarge1.1_i386.deb |
| 01:23.06 | scarynetworkguy | DarknessX: cfdisk can not resize partitons. So if by safe you mean "won't lose the Windows partition" then the answer is no |
| 01:23.10 | scott_ | if windows xp is on the only partition on the second IDE port what would I put after root in grub? (hd1,0)? |
| 01:23.24 | DarknessX | scarynetworkguy: okay. I'll find some other way. Thanks |
| 01:23.26 | ahilan | could someone explain how to get cups on sarge to run remote print jobs through ghostscript? |
| 01:23.33 | ahilan | instead of sending it directly to the printer? |
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| 01:23.42 | Error_X | dondelelcaro: Look at flood |
| 01:23.48 | Fulcrum99 | Is it possible to "snoop" on the lo (localhost) interface? In other words, is there any reason to use SSL/TLS for services on 127.0.0.1? |
| 01:23.53 | dasboot | i got a problem , ever since I did an update on my debian box, whenever i try to play a videoclip , my kde crach back to the console, can anybody gimme a hand ? |
| 01:23.54 | scarynetworkguy | DarknessX: pretty much the only tool that is really safe for resizing a windows partition is Partition Magic |
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| 01:24.08 | bofh80 | Xenguy: cool. |
| 01:24.18 | dondelelcaro | Error_X: I did, and I already gave you the command to run to clear that up. |
| 01:24.34 | Nurbs | scarynetworkguy: bad things happening with ntfsresize? |
| 01:24.38 | Error_X | what was it again? |
| 01:24.42 | bofh80 | Xenguy: well are three hours it just errored out, and since i don't know shit about compiling kernels when errors happen i'm really going to get drunk |
| 01:24.45 | dondelelcaro | Error_X: dpkg --force-overwrite -i /var/cache/apt/archives/gcc-3.3_1%3a3.3.4-6sarge1.1_i386.deb |
| 01:24.50 | bofh80 | this is for a job that should have been done a week ago |
| 01:24.53 | plugwash | Fulcrum99 its probablly possible to sniff it but if someone has your box properly rootkitted they can probablly get the data before encrytoion anyway |
| 01:25.09 | Xenguy | bofh80: but then, everyone has a different definition of 'entertaining' I suppose (funnily enough I happen to be compiling a kernel ATM also :-) |
| 01:25.14 | bofh80 | and all i need it to do is give me access the 160gig drive on my ultratx2 |
| 01:25.15 | DarknessX | scarynetworkguy: partition magic isn't "free", is it? (is there a trial of it?) |
| 01:25.21 | dondelelcaro | dasboot: it's most likely a bug in the X server and probably also the video player you're using. |
| 01:25.25 | Xenguy | DarknessX: no |
| 01:25.27 | scarynetworkguy | DarknessX: no and no |
| 01:25.34 | Xenguy | DarknessX: er, it is not free |
| 01:25.42 | dasboot | dondelelcaro, well realplayer and xine both are doing this |
| 01:25.54 | scarynetworkguy | Nurbs: I don't know never used it |
| 01:26.01 | dondelelcaro | dasboot: either make sure you're using the newest version, or install xserver-xfree86-dbg; turn on coredumps, and run gdb on the core. |
| 01:26.28 | IrishKitty | right, X windows is being a bitch, a real bitch |
| 01:26.42 | IrishKitty | it gave errors about glcore earlier |
| 01:26.51 | IrishKitty | now it wont let me open /dev/psaux |
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| 01:27.30 | dondelelcaro | IrishKitty: probably because you haven't loaded the appropriate modules. Either install discover and hotplug, or /msg dpkg 2.6 mouse |
| 01:27.32 | IrishKitty | and its not permissions, even route can't open it |
| 01:27.33 | bahadunn | dasboot: hi |
| 01:27.40 | IrishKitty | aah |
| 01:27.57 | erik | hey, I'm having issues installing nvidia 1.0-6111 on unstable - it's telling me that I don't have kernel sources matching th ekernel installed ... but I'm using kernel-image-2.6.8-1-k7 and have kernel-headers-2.6.8-1-k7 installed |
| 01:28.01 | dasboot | dondelelcaro, well it used to work before I did a apt-get update |
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| 01:28.25 | bahadunn | dondelelcaro: is that a pleasant smell or a displeasing smell to you? |
| 01:28.26 | dondelelcaro | dasboot: then downgrade whatever got upgraded... |
| 01:28.35 | dondelelcaro | bahadunn: if I smell it, the odor is pungent... |
| 01:28.40 | bahadunn | hehe |
| 01:28.42 | encode | has anyone got lirc working with 2.6.7? how did u do it? |
| 01:28.45 | dasboot | dondelelcaro, well everything got updated |
| 01:28.55 | veleno | once i added my user to a given group (modifying manually etc/group), is there a way to re-login without closing-restarting X ? |
| 01:29.09 | bahadunn | ew spiders |
| 01:29.19 | dondelelcaro | dasboot: everything didn't... but you might not be able to pinpoint what actually got upgraded... which is probably what you mean. |
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| 01:29.37 | findme | is there a mp3 converting software ? |
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| 01:29.48 | dondelelcaro | findme: see lame and mpg321 |
| 01:29.48 | dasboot | dondelelcaro, well mostly everything since i was using an old debian distro |
| 01:29.50 | bahadunn | spiders creep me out |
| 01:29.56 | findme | dondelelcaro: thanks |
| 01:29.59 | bahadunn | findme: mp32ogg |
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| 01:30.11 | s0up3rman | is it reasonable to hope that these pacakges that seem to be borked will be fixed soemtimes soon? |
| 01:30.12 | IrishKitty | now its itching about fonts |
| 01:30.16 | findme | bahadunn: thanks |
| 01:30.21 | dondelelcaro | dasboot: anyway, the only way to figure out what the problem is is to install the debugging version of xserver-xfree86. |
| 01:30.21 | bahadunn | there are borked packages? |
| 01:30.26 | dondelelcaro | IrishKitty: install xfonts-base |
| 01:30.36 | IrishKitty | dondelelcaro: doing so now |
| 01:30.41 | IrishKitty | the dependencies are all fubar |
| 01:30.51 | dondelelcaro | IrishKitty: eh? no, they're not, actually... |
| 01:30.53 | IrishKitty | would have thought they would get installed by default with all the x stuff |
| 01:31.02 | dondelelcaro | IrishKitty: no, because you don't need fonts. |
| 01:31.07 | scarynetworkguy | IrishKitty: what did you do to try and install X? |
| 01:31.13 | sussudio | !fix IrishKitty |
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| 01:31.22 | IrishKitty | apt-get install xserver-free and a few others |
| 01:31.34 | erik | what is xserver-free? |
| 01:31.36 | Phated | You mean xserver-xfree86 |
| 01:31.40 | IrishKitty | yes |
| 01:31.42 | IrishKitty | that one :p |
| 01:31.45 | IrishKitty | its late ;p |
| 01:31.45 | dondelelcaro | IrishKitty: if you don't know what you're doing, install x-window-system |
| 01:31.45 | erik | ah heh |
| 01:31.45 | Phated | :) |
| 01:31.49 | scarynetworkguy | IrishKitty: try apt-get install x-window-system. That just might grab anything you are missing |
| 01:31.49 | dondelelcaro | IrishKitty: or use tasksel |
| 01:31.57 | Phated | IrishKitty: Yeah, yeah. :) |
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| 01:32.08 | IrishKitty | installing x-window-system now |
| 01:32.11 | s0up3rman | no esel has had problems with dist-upgrading today? |
| 01:32.14 | s0up3rman | else |
| 01:32.16 | s0up3rman | on SArge |
| 01:32.17 | Nurbs | or at least x-window-system-core |
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| 01:32.28 | IrishKitty | scarynetworkguy: just can't install gcc thats all |
| 01:32.50 | Phated | Cancer?! Oh no! |
| 01:32.51 | dondelelcaro | IrishKitty: you can, it just requires a bit of knowledge... |
| 01:33.00 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: yuppers. :) |
| 01:33.07 | IrishKitty | dondelelcaro: what do I need to do to make it install ? |
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| 01:33.32 | dondelelcaro | IrishKitty: get the appropriate dependency from unstable, or use a previous version from snapshots.debian.net |
| 01:33.47 | Error_X | Why won't the (AT) char work at my keyboard? Every other chars works at my keyboard layout |
| 01:33.52 | IrishKitty | dondelelcaro: no, thats not what is causing the problem, its trying to over rite something |
| 01:33.58 | dondelelcaro | IrishKitty: if you're talking about the conflicts, use dpkg --force-overwrite -i foo.deb |
| 01:34.05 | Error_X | It won't display an (at) at the screen |
| 01:34.13 | IrishKitty | dondelelcaro: aaah |
| 01:34.46 | encode | dondelelcaro: are u sure u have the right keyboard mapping? |
| 01:34.52 | dondelelcaro | !u |
| 01:34.52 | dpkg | Dammit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1. |
| 01:35.05 | encode | dondelelcaro: i chose british once by accident, and the @ symbol doesnt work |
| 01:35.05 | IrishKitty | Error_X: does it give you a " when you try for an @ |
| 01:35.15 | Error_X | IrishKitty: No |
| 01:35.19 | Error_X | IrishKitty: It gives nothing |
| 01:35.29 | Error_X | Well, in kvirc it gives you a BOLD :P |
| 01:35.32 | IrishKitty | Error_X: press space right after you have tried |
| 01:35.32 | Error_X | and in shell: |
| 01:35.36 | encode | oops |
| 01:35.41 | scarynetworkguy | IrishKitty: what does GCC have to do with it? |
| 01:35.41 | Error_X | (arg: 2) |
| 01:35.45 | slowhog | Basic, there is no xorg, any other places? |
| 01:35.47 | encode | i was supposed to be talking to Error_X, not dondelelcaro |
| 01:36.02 | Error_X | encode: hmm |
| 01:36.03 | bahadunn | gcc is buggy and I dont like it |
| 01:36.03 | IrishKitty | scarynetworkguy: to do with what ? |
| 01:36.05 | Error_X | Are you using sarge? |
| 01:36.13 | encode | Error_X: I am, yes |
| 01:36.23 | Error_X | IrishKitty: When I try (at) in console, it returns: (arg: 2) |
| 01:36.28 | scarynetworkguy | 18:32 < IrishKitty> | scarynetworkguy: just can't install gcc thats all |
| 01:36.32 | IrishKitty | bahadunn: then go sell your sole to satan :p |
| 01:36.38 | Nurbs | bahadunn: it is, you do :) |
| 01:36.42 | bahadunn | IrishKitty: never!!! |
| 01:36.44 | encode | Error_X: i would still check your keyboard mapping |
| 01:36.52 | scarynetworkguy | IrishKitty: I think Satan prefers souls. :) |
| 01:36.52 | encode | Error_X: make sure it is US |
| 01:36.52 | *** mode/#debian [+o dondelelcaro] by ChanServ |
| 01:36.54 | *** topic/#debian by dondelelcaro -> READ THE FAQ: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ | READ THE BTS: /msg dpkg bts | Paste in #flood NOT here | /msg bots NOT people | Debian != Knoppix | sarge Base+Standard is now frozen; RC1 installer: /msg dpkg d-i | BROKEN: gcc (#268338) use apt-get -o Dpkg::Options="--force-overwrite" install gcc; kdelibs4/libopenexr0 (#266504), libapr0 (#266165) | FIXED: | SECURITY: READ YOUR DSA! |
| 01:36.59 | Error_X | encode: It isn't US |
| 01:37.02 | *** mode/#debian [-o dondelelcaro] by dondelelcaro |
| 01:37.06 | Error_X | Because I can type Æ Ø Å |
| 01:37.11 | Error_X | the Norwegian 3 extra chars |
| 01:37.15 | encode | Error_X: should it be? most keyboards are US |
| 01:37.17 | IrishKitty | scarynetworkguy: thats my tab complete, was suppose to goto someone else |
| 01:37.21 | encode | Error_X: oh, sorry |
| 01:37.24 | Error_X | =) |
| 01:37.27 | Error_X | So, there is a problem |
| 01:37.30 | scarynetworkguy | IrishKitty: cool |
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| 01:37.41 | Error_X | Does anyone know how to fix it? |
| 01:37.55 | IrishKitty | Error_X: you using screen? |
| 01:37.57 | encode | Error_X: maybe u can customise the keybaord mapping then? i dont really no |
| 01:37.59 | Error_X | IrishKitty: No |
| 01:38.00 | encode | know* |
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| 01:38.17 | Error_X | encode: How do I customize the keyboard mapping? |
| 01:38.31 | Error_X | IrishKitty: It happens in console, x, and everywhere :P |
| 01:38.38 | IrishKitty | weird |
| 01:38.45 | Error_X | yes |
| 01:38.55 | encode | Error_X: i dont know |
| 01:39.09 | Error_X | How do I change to no-latin ? |
| 01:39.12 | Error_X | maybe I shall try that one |
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| 01:40.02 | encode | Error_X: kbdconfig |
| 01:40.15 | Error_X | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:40.53 | Error_X | Select keymap from arch list? |
| 01:41.03 | s0up3rman | gcc is angry |
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| 01:41.07 | IrishKitty | right |
| 01:41.21 | IrishKitty | anyone here able to help me with problems with X on 2.6 and nvidia? |
| 01:41.21 | Error_X | Do I have to restart anything? |
| 01:41.25 | kaplanfx | hmm |
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| 01:41.53 | tomlobato | for DOSEMU, where to put freedos binary, as README.Debian instructions for dosemu are wrong? |
| 01:42.01 | afcpack | kaplanfx: nooooooooooo!!!!! :) |
| 01:42.01 | kaplanfx | my windows box has like half the horsepower of this debian box |
| 01:42.22 | dondelelcaro | tomlobato: you can just apt-get install dosemu-freedos |
| 01:42.38 | ebene | Hi. In lilo, how can I add the boot parameters: "splash=verbose" and "hde=ide-scsi" , within one "append=" declaration?? |
| 01:42.40 | Error_X | I'll restart my system for secure |
| 01:42.43 | scarynetworkguy | kaplanfx: as normal for windows it seems that you are swapping one set of problems for another |
| 01:42.44 | kaplanfx | afcpack: its bad? |
| 01:42.44 | Phated | kaplanfx: Then why are you running XP on it? :) |
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| 01:42.48 | afcpack | kaplanfx: pc mag has serious concerns about SP2 security |
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| 01:43.04 | afcpack | kaplanfx: jk :) |
| 01:43.05 | Phated | kaplanfx: CNet also. Three holes in it already, more are expected. |
| 01:43.09 | tomlobato | dondelelcaro: but not in the ofocil distro, ok? |
| 01:43.17 | kaplanfx | Phated: because I ain't putting windows on my good box, this baby is reserved for debian |
| 01:43.18 | afcpack | but not about the pc mag article... lemme go find it |
| 01:43.23 | dondelelcaro | tomlobato: it's in contrib |
| 01:43.25 | Phated | kaplanfx: Ohh, I see. :) |
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| 01:43.33 | Lestat^O^^ | hi |
| 01:43.35 | Lestat^O^^ | how to add some text into a text file at every line ? (like add "nohup " at the begining of every line) ? |
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| 01:43.38 | cdemwe11 | Hiya |
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| 01:43.57 | cdemwe11 | I just upgraded my kernel from 2.4 to 2.6.7 and now - for some reason - ssh won't work! |
| 01:44.08 | tomlobato | dondelelcaro: but it cant be in the oficial, because debian policies |
| 01:44.15 | cdemwe11 | sshd, that is |
| 01:44.18 | cdemwe11 | I can't connect via ssh |
| 01:44.18 | wishie | i just upgraded to the latest samba, and now im getting all sorts of strange behaviour..anyone else experiencing this ? |
| 01:44.21 | Squirel2 | Hi.... if I changed my domain "sample.com" to nameservers ns1.sample.com and ns2.sample.com, what is telling ns1.* and ns2.* to resolve to the IP addresses of my server? |
| 01:44.25 | dondelelcaro | tomlobato: it's not in main because freedos requires Borland C to compile |
| 01:44.26 | cdemwe11 | I had to install telnetd (yeeewww) to actually log in. |
| 01:44.37 | Kzim | Night all |
| 01:44.38 | cdemwe11 | no logs! |
| 01:44.40 | dondelelcaro | tomlobato: just add contrib to your sources.list |
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| 01:44.49 | afcpack | kaplanfx: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1639276,00.asp |
| 01:44.52 | tomlobato | dondelelcaro: I have 'contrib' in all deb lines of sources.list, but even so I have no dosemu-freedos package |
| 01:45.02 | Nurbs | Lestat^O^^: sed -i 's/^/nohup /' file.txt |
| 01:45.05 | dondelelcaro | !info dosemu-freedos unstable |
| 01:45.07 | dpkg | dosemu-freedos: (FreeDOS package for DOSEMU), section contrib/otherosfs, is optional. Version: b8p-4 (sid), Packaged size: 762 kB, Installed size: 1890 kB |
| 01:45.11 | Nurbs | Lestat^O^^: but read the documentation :) |
| 01:45.17 | tomlobato | dondelelcaro: but I use woody |
| 01:45.18 | dondelelcaro | tomlobato: which version of Debian are you running? |
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| 01:45.49 | dondelelcaro | tomlobato: find a backport of dosemu-freedos... or consider using the unstable packages... |
| 01:45.53 | kaplanfx | afcpack: eh, I guess I shall not then |
| 01:46.04 | scarynetworkguy | cdemwe11: ok have you done the obvious. Make sure that your sshd is started and all that |
| 01:46.04 | tomlobato | dondelelcaro: ok, thank you |
| 01:46.06 | l4vim | hello, is there any simple way to transform locales chars (.pl) to UTF ? |
| 01:46.13 | wishie | samba seems to randomly lose connection, and lock my shares for some reason.. anyone else experiencing troubles with samba in sid (samba 3.0.6-1) |
| 01:46.14 | cdemwe11 | yeah, scarynetworkguy |
| 01:46.16 | outlier | Does anybody know how to get cups to print pages in the right order? |
| 01:46.20 | scarynetworkguy | cdemwe11: and is it? |
| 01:46.21 | cdemwe11 | I did that, and also the slapd that is providing passwords. |
| 01:46.29 | cdemwe11 | ps ax | grep ssh |
| 01:46.29 | cdemwe11 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:46.53 | Nurbs | l4vim: apt-get install recode? |
| 01:46.56 | l4vim | i have file that I can use only if it's UTF encoded but it's not ;( |
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| 01:47.00 | cdemwe11 | I can ssh to the machine from localhost, but not from elsewhere |
| 01:47.05 | cdemwe11 | I'm not running any firewalling on it |
| 01:47.05 | l4vim | Nurbs : thank you |
| 01:47.32 | Phated | Ooo. |
| 01:47.43 | ScribbleJ | I'm guessing the answer to this is going to be obvious to someone - I have two NICs in my server both on the same network, and everything seems fine from there. But from outside the network, elsewhere on the internet, the server is completely invisible; doesn't respond to pings or anything. Did I probably fuck up something with my routing tables? |
| 01:47.52 | soth` | k why would a specific application suddenly lose all ability to connect to internet? |
| 01:47.56 | mikeshouse2004 | hello all -- can anyone tell me how to add shutdown privileges to a regular user account? |
| 01:48.09 | afcpack | 'tis what happens when one pays attention to the topic :) |
| 01:48.11 | cdemwe11 | scarynetworkguy: thoughts? |
| 01:48.22 | Phated | cdemwe11: Don't paste in the channel. ;) |
| 01:48.31 | cdemwe11 | Phated: Two lines? |
| 01:48.35 | Error_X | How do I add "syntax color" to bash? |
| 01:48.58 | Phated | cdemwe11: You're two lines away from a kick. :D |
| 01:49.01 | encode | Error_X: theres usually lines commented out in ~/.bashrc that talk about that |
| 01:49.05 | cdemwe11 | hilarious. |
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| 01:49.08 | Phated | cdemwe11: So you're halfway there. :D |
| 01:49.08 | scarynetworkguy | cdemwe11: what error do you get when you try to connect to it? |
| 01:49.15 | cdemwe11 | connection reset by peer, scarynetworkguy |
| 01:49.18 | Squirel2 | Hi.... if I changed my domain "sample.com" to nameservers ns1.sample.com and ns2.sample.com, what is telling ns1.* and ns2.* to resolve to the IP addresses of my server? |
| 01:49.22 | Nurbs | mikeshouse2004: shutdown through what? |
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| 01:49.44 | Error_X | encode: is there any "offical file" so it changed to everyone? |
| 01:49.45 | scarynetworkguy | cdemwe11: and this was after a kernel change? |
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| 01:49.56 | mikeshouse2004 | Nurbs: I mean to shutdown the computer, when I shutdown, it asks for root password |
| 01:49.58 | cdemwe11 | scarynetworkguy: Yeah, and it works OK under 2.4 |
| 01:50.03 | rares000 | Suirel it propagates from one server to another |
| 01:50.07 | encode | Error_X: im not sure - maybe someone else a little more knowledgeable could help |
| 01:50.09 | Error_X | Ok |
| 01:50.10 | Nurbs | mikeshouse2004: if you want to allow it on the command-line I'd suggest sudo |
| 01:50.11 | Error_X | well, brb |
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| 01:50.46 | scarynetworkguy | cdemwe11: try this telnet x.x.x.x 22 where x.x.x.x is the ip of the machine you are having problems with |
| 01:50.51 | mikeshouse2004 | Nurbs: what I'm getting at is to make it so my kids can log on, do there work, and shutdown the computer without me being there or them knowing the root password |
| 01:51.09 | cdemwe11 | yes, scarynetworkguy, I get the SSH-1.99-OpenSSH_3.8.1p1 Debian 1:3.8.1p1-4 greeting |
| 01:51.10 | Nurbs | mikeshouse2004: sudo can do that. |
| 01:51.16 | gravity | herbi: Why? |
| 01:51.16 | rares000 | you shutdown the computer? |
| 01:51.19 | gravity | helix: ^ |
| 01:51.22 | Nurbs | mikeshouse2004: do you want some graphical shutdown tool? |
| 01:51.30 | helix | gravity: because it renders one of the lyx bugs obsolete :) |
| 01:51.31 | Nurbs | mikeshouse2004: or use some... |
| 01:51.33 | tomlobato | dondelelcaro: ok, thank you, I solved |
| 01:51.34 | mikeshouse2004 | Nurbs: I'm using kde |
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| 01:51.36 | gravity | Ha! Good reason. |
| 01:51.49 | Nurbs | mikeshouse2004: no idea about that. |
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| 01:52.01 | rares000 | kde has a graphical shutdown are you using kdm? |
| 01:52.02 | mikeshouse2004 | Nurbs: I can shutdown fine, I just want to be able to shutdown, without having to enter the root password |
| 01:52.10 | tomlobato | dondelelcaro: the problem was I seeing a 'ls' where there was a 'ln' on readme file :-) |
| 01:52.11 | tomlobato | bye |
| 01:52.14 | afcpack | mikeshouse2004: iirc kdm would let you shutdown from kde |
| 01:52.37 | Nurbs | yeah, probably a kdm configuration issue. |
| 01:52.38 | afcpack | similar to gnome allowing reboot/shutdown when running gdm |
| 01:52.40 | cdemwe11 | scarynetworkguy: Further thoughts? |
| 01:53.00 | mikeshouse2004 | actually, I think it is the debian distro, I can log out of kde, then the debian menu pops up, I click shutdown, and it asks for root password |
| 01:53.00 | Nurbs | bah, off to bed, finally |
| 01:53.06 | cdemwe11 | 'cause I am *stumped* |
| 01:53.17 | s0up3rman | g++ and gcc are the same thing correct? |
| 01:53.20 | Phated | No. |
| 01:53.31 | rares000 | g++ is the c++ compiler |
| 01:53.36 | afcpack | mikeshouse2004: When I logout of gnome, it asks if I want to reboot or shutdown the computer |
| 01:53.37 | Phated | g++ compiles C++ code. |
| 01:53.41 | s0up3rman | gcc is C |
| 01:53.43 | Nurbs | s0up3rman: gcc compiles C++ code, too X) |
| 01:53.48 | afcpack | no password needed |
| 01:53.59 | rares000 | Nurbs not quite |
| 01:54.04 | Nurbs | yes, it does. |
| 01:54.12 | mikeshouse2004 | ok, maybe it is kde then, I dunno, but if its any difference I'm using deb sarge |
| 01:54.12 | s0up3rman | im still trying to figure out these wierd errors trying to upgrade gcc and g++ |
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| 01:54.18 | scarynetworkguy | cdemwe11: to be honest you've stumped me. |
| 01:54.21 | Nurbs | it just has different default language, libraries and include paths set |
| 01:54.23 | ahilan | CUPS question, any takers? |
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| 01:54.30 | rares000 | always fails for me with some error it can't find certain libs |
| 01:54.31 | s0up3rman | its complaining about overwriting a changelog |
| 01:54.34 | ahilan | anyone, anyone? |
| 01:54.39 | Nurbs | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:54.43 | helix | ahilan: ask |
| 01:54.44 | Nurbs | s0up3rman: read topic |
| 01:54.48 | ahilan | okay, here goes |
| 01:54.53 | jonka | rpm refuses to function ... is there a way to get around that? |
| 01:54.59 | ahilan | got cups set up on sarge |
| 01:55.00 | Phated | jonka: Use alien? |
| 01:55.03 | s0up3rman | :) |
| 01:55.05 | ahilan | can print to it locally just fine |
| 01:55.12 | jonka | phaethon: alien fails |
| 01:55.15 | afcpack | mikeshouse2004: debian default is gdm... you might want to try kdm |
| 01:55.15 | ahilan | have cupsys-bsd too |
| 01:55.20 | jonka | Phated: alien fails |
| 01:55.27 | Nurbs | debian default? |
| 01:55.30 | ahilan | try to remote print from a different system using Postscript as the printer type |
| 01:55.31 | helix | debian default is xdm |
| 01:55.33 | scarynetworkguy | cdemwe11: if it wasn't for the kernel being the thing that changed I'd tell you to go check you're config files |
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| 01:55.35 | Phated | jonka: Oh. |
| 01:55.35 | ahilan | then doesn't get converted |
| 01:55.36 | plugwash | are there any listmasters around? |
| 01:55.41 | plugwash | this is getting insane |
| 01:55.42 | ahilan | just spits out ps directly |
| 01:55.51 | helix | plugwash: I don't think they hang out in here. why? |
| 01:55.55 | ahilan | any ideas? |
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| 01:55.56 | afcpack | helix: I thought that was gdm... my bad then |
| 01:56.05 | jonka | i have installed rpm, it however refuses to depackage rpms, saying i should use alien ... how can i make it function properly? |
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| 01:56.13 | norton | im gonna start using mutt, but I dont know which mailbox format to have.. which do you think i should use? mbox, maildir.. ? |
| 01:56.19 | plugwash | helix there is a horible mailloop on debian-boot |
| 01:56.22 | rares000 | is there a p2p that isn't as slow as hell |
| 01:56.24 | mikeshouse2004 | is that a startup/shutdown manager? |
| 01:56.24 | plugwash | and its getting worse |
| 01:56.39 | afcpack | mikeshouse2004: yes |
| 01:56.40 | helix | plugwash: oh, right, I heard about it. I think the listmasters are probably aware, but.. |
| 01:57.05 | rares000 | granted it could just be that this machine is slow |
| 01:57.12 | plugwash | helix if they are aware then why isn't his ip shitcanned already |
| 01:57.19 | mikeshouse2004 | afcpack: well, what am I in for...switching from kdm to gdm? |
| 01:57.25 | scarynetworkguy | <sarcasm> Alien failed *shock* </sarcasm> |
| 01:57.28 | helix | plugwash: I'm not sure. I could be wrong, you know :) |
| 01:57.39 | gravity | plugwash: procmail is your friend |
| 01:57.41 | mikeshouse2004 | afcpack: I meant gdm to kdm...I think :) |
| 01:57.43 | helix | plugwash: in any case, I saw some other people discussing it so I assumed they were aware. |
| 01:57.51 | encode | so has anyone successfulyl used lirc with a 2.6.7 kernel? |
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| 01:58.26 | scott_ | if windows xp is on the only partition on the second IDE port what would I put after root in grub? (hd1,0)? |
| 01:58.26 | plugwash | helix its well over 2/minuite atm |
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| 01:58.46 | afcpack | mikeshouse2004: it shouldn't be too much different... haven't used kdm myself since dropping SuSE... |
| 01:58.56 | helix | plugwash: wow. yeah, I just checked the archives |
| 01:59.05 | afcpack | I'm not too versed in the Debian implementation of kdm |
| 01:59.15 | helix | poor frank carmickle. google will never forget this display of stupidity. |
| 01:59.25 | mikeshouse2004 | afcpack: I gotcha |
| 01:59.32 | mikeshouse2004 | afcpack: thanks for the help |
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| 01:59.56 | mikeshouse2004 | but is there seriously no easier way to allow users to shutdown the computer? |
| 02:00.12 | encode | hmm - has anyone at all in here used lirc?? |
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| 02:00.55 | mikeshouse2004 | don't get me wrong I love debian so far, but do you have to be a rocket scientist to shutdown the computer without the root password? :) |
| 02:01.10 | somerobot | can't you do 'poweroff' at a command line? |
| 02:01.15 | rares000 | mikeshouse2004, just install kdm |
| 02:01.27 | mikeshouse2004 | apt-get kdm |
| 02:01.27 | mikeshouse2004 | ? |
| 02:01.28 | plugwash | mikeshouse2004 if you install kdm and set it as teh display manager than it has a shutdown option |
| 02:01.37 | afcpack | mikeshouse2004: take a look at gnome... it should let you reboot/shutdown without password |
| 02:01.37 | rares000 | apt-get install kdm |
| 02:01.38 | scarynetworkguy | that's going to grab a fucktun of depends just to make powering off easier |
| 02:01.49 | scarynetworkguy | s/fucktun/fuckton |
| 02:01.54 | plugwash | true |
| 02:01.58 | rares000 | not really |
| 02:02.04 | ScribbleJ | Is that metric or english? |
| 02:02.07 | rares000 | igf you use kdm |
| 02:02.19 | rares000 | then you already have those depends |
| 02:02.23 | initech | fucktun is like a fun fuckton |
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| 02:02.48 | mikeshouse2004 | and my installing kdm it will make itself the default without having to dig throught menus and editing scripts and so on.. |
| 02:02.48 | ScribbleJ | mikeshouse2004, just hit CTRL-ALT-DELETE |
| 02:02.52 | scarynetworkguy | initech: something like that |
| 02:02.56 | ScribbleJ | By default, that'll do the job. |
| 02:03.08 | sussudio | !do the job |
| 02:03.14 | ahilan | alternate question: is LPRng dead on debian? |
| 02:03.39 | bofh80 | anyone using the pdc202xx_new module? |
| 02:03.49 | initech | lprng is dead on evrything ;) |
| 02:03.51 | dondelelcaro | ahilan: no, it's working quite well. |
| 02:03.51 | ahilan | what's that? |
| 02:03.59 | ahilan | initech: yeah, but it worked! |
| 02:04.11 | mikeshouse2004 | I haven't tried ctrl-alt-delete but won't that shutoff the computer the same way holding the power button in for 5 seconds will? |
| 02:04.19 | mikeshouse2004 | and I don't want to do that? |
| 02:04.24 | ahilan | not having this problem on a suse system running lprng. but suse sucks, i want to use debian! |
| 02:04.24 | jonka | what can i do to make the rpm system functional ... i installed rpm and it refuses to do anything, saying i should use alien |
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| 02:04.34 | Rez | mikeshouse2004: no, it will shut it down more properly |
| 02:04.52 | ahilan | dondelcaro: i couldn't figure out how to get ppd's and hpijs and whatnot to work with it |
| 02:04.57 | mikeshouse2004 | ok...and log out of kde first? |
| 02:04.58 | scarynetworkguy | mikeshouse2004: just give them sudo rights to shutdown. |
| 02:05.04 | ahilan | apsfilter is too out of date to do that stuff |
| 02:05.10 | ahilan | so what else will work? |
| 02:05.23 | initech | ahilan: cups |
| 02:05.30 | mikeshouse2004 | scarynetworkguy: ya, that was more along the lines of what I was looking for, but that's what I don't know how to do |
| 02:05.44 | dondelelcaro | ahilan: with a real postscript printer, you typically don't use a ppd, or you use ifhp |
| 02:05.44 | ahilan | initech: right, which brings me back to my first question |
| 02:05.52 | jonka | or rather like this ... i have some files in rpm packages ... how can i extract them from those packages? |
| 02:05.58 | scarynetworkguy | mikeshouse2004: http://www.tldp.org |
| 02:05.58 | mikeshouse2004 | scarynetworkguy: how do I give them sudo rights to shutdown? may have been a more appropriate way of asking |
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| 02:06.03 | ahilan | okay, let me go back to the first question |
| 02:06.07 | slowhog | debian does not find my synaptic touch pad. I had installed xfree-driver-synaptics package |
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| 02:06.32 | ahilan | so i can't remote print a postscript file from another system, if i set up the remote debian CUPS printer as Postscript |
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| 02:06.34 | slowhog | am I suppose to use /dev/input/mice as the pointing device? |
| 02:06.38 | ahilan | ghostscript will not filter it |
| 02:06.43 | mikeshouse2004 | will check it out thanks |
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| 02:06.55 | mikeshouse2004 | and thanks to everyone else too! for offering help |
| 02:06.57 | scott_ | can you use gtk 1 themes with gtk2? |
| 02:06.58 | ahilan | but i have solaris systems, where it's too much of a pain in the butt to replace the printing system |
| 02:07.01 | dondelelcaro | ahilan: if you have your filters set up correctly, it will, since the lpd port is typically just raw. |
| 02:07.16 | IrishKitty | thanks all for the help |
| 02:07.19 | IrishKitty | gonna go crash now |
| 02:07.23 | ahilan | okay, but i don't want to have filters on the client |
| 02:07.30 | ahilan | only on the debian cups system |
| 02:07.33 | ahilan | that's my problem |
| 02:07.48 | dondelelcaro | ahilan: the filters only go on the printer server. |
| 02:07.49 | initech | ahilan: is the printer actually postscript? |
| 02:07.59 | ahilan | if i do local filtering (PS->hpijs) and then send to the Debian CUPs server, no problem |
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| 02:08.03 | slisher | When I run sndconfig, it finds my card, say there is an error but doesn't tell me what it is. any ideas? |
| 02:08.06 | ahilan | no it's non-postscript, that's the problem |
| 02:08.11 | jasz | i dont undestand what the cp -ax is for ( i undestand the -a part.. but not the -x.. what does "stay on this file system" mean? |
| 02:08.19 | dondelelcaro | ahilan: your machines can send anything they want to the printer server. They filter from ps->pcl or whatever the hell they have to do, and then blamo, they print to the printer. |
| 02:08.23 | ahilan | it's non-postscript, and i basically don't want ghostscript on print clients |
| 02:08.40 | ahilan | dodelelcaro: right, but it doesn't filter it |
| 02:08.53 | ahilan | it takes the postscript and sends it straight |
| 02:09.13 | dondelelcaro | ahilan: that's probably because you don't have your filters set up right. For lprng it's fairly simple. You just run it through ifhp, and indicate that you want pcl or hpicj as the output. |
| 02:09.31 | dondelelcaro | ahilan: for cups, you do something else. |
| 02:09.40 | ahilan | yes, lprng i can basically understand |
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| 02:10.03 | ahilan | hmm, well, maybe if i can figure out how to do lprng in debian with a recent printer i'll be okay |
| 02:10.26 | ahilan | i had trouble with USB support, so I bought a USB print server for it |
| 02:10.39 | ahilan | and speak to it over lpd from debian |
| 02:10.52 | dondelelcaro | ahilan: which printer is this? |
| 02:11.03 | ahilan | HP Deskjet 5150 |
| 02:11.07 | dondelelcaro | yick |
| 02:11.11 | ahilan | free printer deal |
| 02:11.14 | ahilan | with a powerbook |
| 02:11.28 | ahilan | yeah, i wouldn't use my own money on that piece of crap |
| 02:11.33 | Basic | cups > lprng |
| 02:11.33 | ahilan | but it was free =) |
| 02:11.52 | dondelelcaro | Basic: they're different, and they're for solving totally different classes of problems. |
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| 02:12.14 | dondelelcaro | Basic: cups is fine if you're doing basic printer spooling, but doesn't scale as well to hundreds of printers with tens of thousands of clients. |
| 02:12.40 | initech | dondelelcaro: huh? |
| 02:12.56 | ahilan | really? |
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| 02:13.21 | ahilan | don't you just run 100 copies of lprng =) |
| 02:13.23 | initech | dondelelcaro: cups can handle that just fine, and it is far more sophisticated than lprng |
| 02:13.41 | ahilan | except it don't work for me =P |
| 02:13.55 | ahilan | it's just one little thing too |
| 02:14.00 | AdrianLP | is there a guide to dhcp-client that walks you through proper setup? I've tried different options, and searched google, but can't get dhcp-client to renew leases properly. |
| 02:14.18 | Basic | dondelelcaro, I'll totally disagree with you lpr, lprng do not scale, cups was designed to be an enterprise print server |
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| 02:14.40 | ahilan | so is it possible that cups-bsdsys is simply exporting the raw queue? |
| 02:14.43 | initech | cups is an enterprise print server, a very good one |
| 02:14.46 | scarynetworkguy | ahilan: do you have the hpjis stuff installed? |
| 02:14.49 | ahilan | in which case, how does "lpr" work? |
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| 02:14.59 | ahilan | or "enscript" |
| 02:15.03 | ahilan | of a ps file |
| 02:15.11 | initech | cups-bsd is for unix lp printing only |
| 02:15.18 | lok3 | how do i install a kernel patch that i apt-get install'd? |
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| 02:15.20 | ahilan | scarynetworkguy: yup it's there, i get local printing no problem |
| 02:15.20 | Basic | dondelelcaro, cisco developed it to handle their 10,000+ printers, that is scaling |
| 02:15.33 | ahilan | i can print a test page, get all the colors and stuff |
| 02:15.59 | ahilan | it just doesn't feel like doing it for jobs from remote clients |
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| 02:16.18 | Smerdyakov | Does anyone know if there is a conflict between the DBM library versions used by the courier-imap and exim4 Debian packages in testing? |
| 02:16.20 | dondelelcaro | Basic: eh? it's developed by Easy Software Products, not cisco. |
| 02:16.20 | scarynetworkguy | ahilan: what error are your remote clients getting |
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| 02:16.44 | ahilan | scarynetworkguy: the error is that i get postscript printed out on the printer |
| 02:16.50 | dondelelcaro | Basic: and cisco doesn't (or at least didn't) do centralized printer spooling. |
| 02:16.54 | ahilan | on a non-postscript printer |
| 02:17.02 | ahilan | so pages and pages of crap |
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| 02:17.36 | ahilan | line feeds but no carraige returns |
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| 02:17.40 | Basic | originally it was a cisco internal thing |
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| 02:17.44 | jonka | what would be the easiest way to get files out of a rpm package without using rpm? |
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| 02:18.02 | dondelelcaro | AdrianLP: assuming you're using /etc/network/interfaces, there's really nothing to it... it "just works" |
| 02:18.13 | Basic | not relevant, cups is the best printinging solution under linux to date |
| 02:18.14 | tcsetattr | jonka, can you get rpm2cpio? |
| 02:18.22 | ahilan | scarynetworkguy: have any experience with cups? |
| 02:18.31 | jonka | tcsetattr: is it in debian |
| 02:18.33 | jonka | ? |
| 02:18.50 | ahilan | scarynetworkguy: what i don't get is why plain old "lpr" of a postscript file works locally |
| 02:19.01 | scarynetworkguy | ahilan: a little but not a lot with what you are seeing |
| 02:19.08 | dondelelcaro | AdrianLP: however, if you're using a firewall, it's possible that you're blocking the packets after you configure the interface initially. |
| 02:19.17 | peterrooney | !cups |
| 02:19.17 | dpkg | cups is probably a spiffy new printing system. or available under the GPL since june 1999., or making loads of trouble if you try to use it. what breast size?, or available at http://www.cups.org (or so says http://www.easysw.com), or see cups-unstable, or http://localhost:631/admin, or see cups setup |
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| 02:19.22 | Basic | rpm2cpio | cpio -i |
| 02:19.25 | kvn | I think Basic is thinking of CEPS. |
| 02:19.36 | tcsetattr | jonka, rpm is in debian. |
| 02:19.36 | AdrianLP | dondelelcaro: Firewall is down. |
| 02:19.38 | kvn | I don't think CEPS and CUPS have anything to do with each other. |
| 02:19.53 | kvn | Except for print spooling. |
| 02:19.54 | chaching | initech, ey..i got it to work..there's a command i had to do after doing the config...hehe..=P |
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| 02:20.10 | jonka | tcsetattr: it is, but it isn't functional ... |
| 02:20.12 | switch_ | Hello |
| 02:20.20 | AdrianLP | dondelelcaro: I get this "dhclient: send_packet: Network is down" despite the fact that I'm indeed able to reach the DHCP server. In fact I can run dhclient manually and it updates fine. |
| 02:20.21 | ahilan | okay, so does foomatic-ppds work on lprng? |
| 02:20.22 | jonka | i installed it, but it refuses to depackage anything |
| 02:20.24 | chaching | switch_, hello..=P |
| 02:20.41 | tcsetattr | jonka, rpm2cpio is probably something you should try then. |
| 02:20.41 | jonka | tcsetattr: it fails, saying that i should use alien |
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| 02:20.47 | switch_ | I am running sarge, and I am having issues using apt with gcc and cpp is there a known bug? |
| 02:20.50 | jonka | tcsetattr: thenk you |
| 02:20.56 | dondelelcaro | switch_: see /topic |
| 02:21.00 | kvn | Basic: http://ceps.sourceforge.net/ |
| 02:21.02 | tcsetattr | rpm2cpio foo.rpm | cpio -ivd |
| 02:21.10 | Daedalus- | any linux fxp client available for *nix? |
| 02:21.35 | dondelelcaro | AdrianLP: hrm... the network is down is not unusual... btu dhclient should try to bring it up first before sending out packets... |
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| 02:22.06 | dondelelcaro | AdrianLP: does ifup eth0; work? which version of dhcp-client is this? |
| 02:22.10 | AdrianLP | dondelelcaro: I have internet access through the machine running DHCP server. |
| 02:22.28 | AdrianLP | dondelelcaro: Yes, eth0 works, its how I have internet access. I only have one adapter. |
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| 02:23.09 | chaching | what does it mean when linux tries to boot, but you get a message saying "EBDA too big" ?? |
| 02:23.14 | tcsetattr | if you really get desparate, you can chop off the beginning of the rpm file one byte at a time until gzip recognizes it. |
| 02:23.29 | kvn | Daedalus-: apt-get install gftp-gtk |
| 02:23.35 | sQuizanto | does anyone know how to get courier to be used as an smtp server from an IP that is not hte local machine? i wnat to use my box at home as my smtp server, but it keeps telling me relaying denied |
| 02:23.44 | dondelelcaro | AdrianLP: eh? you've got the following? internet->eth0 where eth0 is also running a DHCP server and operating as a gateway to something else? |
| 02:23.47 | ahilan | scarynetworkguy: have you tried printing postscript to a remote CUPS server without any local filtering? |
| 02:23.48 | Daedalus- | kvn: gftp doesnt do fxp ... |
| 02:23.57 | switch_ | dondelelcaro is that the cure for the broken package? |
| 02:24.04 | dondelelcaro | switch_: yes. |
| 02:24.06 | kvn | "gFTP features:" |
| 02:24.07 | AdrianLP | dondelelcaro: DHCP server is run by my ISP. |
| 02:24.07 | ahilan | scarynetworkguy: when the remote server's printer wasn't PS? |
| 02:24.07 | kvn | ... |
| 02:24.10 | kvn | " * support FXP transferts, |
| 02:24.11 | kvn | " |
| 02:24.16 | Daedalus- | hummm |
| 02:24.22 | Daedalus- | sound good |
| 02:24.28 | AdrianLP | dondelelcaro: I'm connected to my ISP (and hence the internet and their DHCP) via eth0, which is my only adapter on the machine. |
| 02:24.37 | kvn | Daedalus-: Couriering files? |
| 02:24.41 | scarynetworkguy | ahilan: nope |
| 02:24.54 | Basic | it's cpio file not gzip |
| 02:24.58 | AdrianLP | dondelelcaro: Using dhcp-client from Testing. |
| 02:25.14 | Daedalus- | kvn: I used to, but now I just do it for fun |
| 02:25.14 | tcsetattr | it's gzip'ed cpio in there |
| 02:25.14 | dondelelcaro | AdrianLP: ok... and your /etc/network/interfaces has just an iface eth0 dhcp; and auto eth0;, right? [ignoring lo, of course.] |
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| 02:26.05 | dondelelcaro | !info dhcp-client |
| 02:26.07 | dpkg | dhcp-client: (DHCP Client), section net, is optional. Version: 2.0pl5-19 (sid), Packaged size: 99 kB, Installed size: 284 kB |
| 02:26.11 | dondelelcaro | yeesh. |
| 02:26.21 | dondelelcaro | AdrianLP: actually, try installing dhcp3-client instead. |
| 02:26.39 | AdrianLP | dondelelcaro: Yes, and up route add -host Coruscant dev eth0. Coruscant is NetBIOS name of my second machine. |
| 02:26.43 | AdrianLP | This machine in fact. |
| 02:27.00 | dondelelcaro | AdrianLP: and removing dhcp-client... I've got no clue why we're still distributing dhcp2.0 |
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| 02:27.21 | lok3 | how do i apply a kernel-patch that i apt-get installed? |
| 02:27.24 | ahilan | scarynetworkguy: okay, time for me to try lprng then =P |
| 02:27.38 | jonka | i sincerely don't understand this ... there is rpm in debian, but it is ompletely disfunctional . why do the maintainers even bother packaging it? |
| 02:27.45 | dondelelcaro | lok3: you build a kernel, and make-kpkg applies it. |
| 02:28.00 | dondelelcaro | jonka: uh, it's supposed to work... if it's not, file a bug. |
| 02:28.01 | lok3 | dondelelcaro so i dont have to apply it? |
| 02:28.12 | AdrianLP | dondelelcaro: dhcp3-client does the exact same thing, tried it previously. |
| 02:28.13 | dondelelcaro | lok3: if you're using make-kpkg, no. |
| 02:28.20 | lok3 | dondelelcaro thanks |
| 02:28.22 | AdrianLP | dondelelcaro: Granted, I think it IS the same thing. Tried both anyway. |
| 02:28.39 | slowhog | help, when install gcc-3.3, it complains failed to overwrite some file from gcc-3.3-base |
| 02:28.52 | jonka | dondelelcaro: funny ..it's supposed to work, but it fails saying that i should use alien |
| 02:28.57 | dondelelcaro | AdrianLP: dhcp-client is totally different from dhcp3-client... I'm wondering if it's the host route that you've got causing problems... |
| 02:28.57 | lok3 | dondelelcaro im sitting here trying to patch -p1 < whatever |
| 02:28.59 | jonka | dondelelcaro: which also fails |
| 02:29.04 | slowhog | what should I do? |
| 02:29.09 | dondelelcaro | jonka: yes, that's it's whole point... it's there to be used with alien. |
| 02:29.50 | AdrianLP | dondelelcaro: I can remove the host route. Also, the lease on the IP the ISP tell me lasts 48 hours. But after just a few hours online, I find my Debian box disconnecting all the time. |
| 02:30.10 | dondelelcaro | lok3: if you're doign that, then dpkg -L kernel-patch yada yada, see where it got installed to, and apply it using patch -p<number> < /path/to/patchfile |
| 02:30.13 | switch_ | Well I can't seem to fix gcc with the topics suggestion, is there some documentation |
| 02:30.19 | ahilan | god i hope there's a way to configure lprng/foomatic/hpijs without dicking through config files |
| 02:30.38 | lok3 | dondelelcaro but i dont have to do that right? |
| 02:30.40 | dondelelcaro | AdrianLP: hrm... if your lease duration is 48 hours, the machine won't try to renew it until about 24-36 hours in... |
| 02:30.41 | ahilan | i don't need magic filters do i? |
| 02:30.44 | AdrianLP | dondelelcaro: Granted my interfaces file assigns 192.168.0.1, perhaps it should not. |
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| 02:30.46 | dondelelcaro | lok3: if you're using make-kpkg, no. |
| 02:30.51 | lok3 | dondelelcaro ok |
| 02:30.57 | Smerdyakov | Does anyone know a program for converting from gdbm to dbm format? |
| 02:31.05 | AdrianLP | dondelelcaro: I get the error I quoted you earlier every 2 mins or so. |
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| 02:31.19 | dondelelcaro | AdrianLP: hrm... paste your whole interfaces file into #flood... |
| 02:31.24 | AdrianLP | k |
| 02:31.27 | AdrianLP | Wait, |
| 02:31.43 | dondelelcaro | lok3: or at least, that's how it's supposed to work, anyway... |
| 02:31.50 | AdrianLP | that'll be hard. My linux box isn't online at the moment, and I'm having trouble convincing it to go online. |
| 02:31.55 | ahilan | dondelelcaro: does lprngtool + magicfilter still work? |
| 02:32.00 | lok3 | dondelelcaro does it not work? |
| 02:32.14 | dondelelcaro | lok3: you'll find out. ;-) |
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| 02:32.28 | AdrianLP | dondelelcaro: Ok, got it. Be in IRC soon with Linux. |
| 02:32.54 | dondelelcaro | ahilan: it should... but I don't use magicfilter. |
| 02:33.08 | ahilan | dondelelcaro: how do you do it? |
| 02:33.20 | dondelelcaro | ahilan: I have real bonafide postscript printers. |
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| 02:33.25 | norton | Kmail seems to use the maildir format. cant I set mutt to use that format, and then use both clients? |
| 02:33.27 | ahilan | dondelelcaro: oh |
| 02:33.32 | dan2 | Smerdyakov: I thought gdbm was a compatible dbm format |
| 02:33.36 | ahilan | dondelelcaro: hmm, that's too easy though! |
| 02:33.38 | jedi_ | dondelelcaro: About to post into flood [AdrianLP] |
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| 02:34.06 | dondelelcaro | norton: mutt will use maildir or mbox... but don't try to use both at the same time... |
| 02:34.10 | jonka | dondelelcaro: this is what i did ... i aliened the rpm and now i'm manually taking apart the resulting deb. Do you think i lost any of the scripts in the process? |
| 02:34.17 | ahilan | *sigh* my company is too damn cheap, we should just be buying color postscript printers |
| 02:34.26 | dondelelcaro | jonka: just turn the rpm into a tarball |
| 02:34.40 | dondelelcaro | ahilan: they're sub $1000 now... |
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| 02:35.04 | dondelelcaro | ahilan: although, most of your $$$s go into toner and drum cartridges... |
| 02:35.04 | norton | dondelelcaro: I mean, if i set mutt to use maildir. Then can i use mutt sometimes, and Kmail other times, accessing the same mail? |
| 02:35.18 | jedi_ | dondelelcaro: See? |
| 02:35.35 | dabreegster | Hey, anybody here familiar with the wb0 SVGA browser? It's not a Debian package, I got it from source. The tarball is missing a file. Anybody use wb0? |
| 02:35.44 | dondelelcaro | jedi_: yeah, if you're going to use dhcp, that should just be iface eth0 dhcp |
| 02:35.53 | jonka | dondelelcaro: rpm doesn't do anything |
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| 02:35.59 | dondelelcaro | rrr... iface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 02:36.18 | jedi_ | dondelelcaro: So remove everything from auto eth0 downward, leave the LO stuff? |
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| 02:36.44 | jedi_ | Or do I leave auto eth0 line? |
| 02:36.51 | Smerdyakov | dan2, exim4 gives a format error trying to read the userdbshadow.dat generated by courier-imap. Courier uses gdbm, and exim4 uses dbm. |
| 02:36.55 | gamma | gentoo chat sucks for support.. just thought i'd vent here @_@ |
| 02:37.05 | dondelelcaro | jedi_: leave it, and replace the iface eth0 inet static line with iface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 02:37.22 | sheevan | does anyone know how to send mail with the From: field set to anything with exim? |
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| 02:38.02 | dondelelcaro | jonka: just go alien --to-tgz foo.rpm |
| 02:38.04 | ahilan | dondelelcaro: does debian have any gui tools that work with lprng? |
| 02:38.09 | Smerdyakov | sheevan, I don't understand your question. |
| 02:38.13 | jedi_ | dondelelcaro: And do away with the address and netmask lines? |
| 02:38.18 | dondelelcaro | jedi_: exactly. |
| 02:38.20 | ahilan | dondelelcaro: lprngtool doesn't seem to let me actually add printers |
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| 02:38.24 | dan2 | Smerdyakov: rebuild courier to use dbm |
| 02:38.29 | dondelelcaro | jedi_: when you're done, you should only have 4 lines |
| 02:38.35 | Gumby` | 830+ users in #gentoo and not a single person can answer a simple question. hehe, makes me laugh |
| 02:38.37 | sheevan | when i send mail it appears username@localmachine in the from field |
| 02:38.41 | MagreloMG | how i set java plugin to firefox?? |
| 02:38.47 | dondelelcaro | sheevan: have your MUA set the From: appropriately. |
| 02:38.50 | sheevan | and i want to set it to my hotmail account |
| 02:38.52 | Smerdyakov | dan2, that would require managing that package manually instead of using apt-get. |
| 02:39.03 | sheevan | yes, i've done it |
| 02:39.11 | jedi_ | dondelelcaro: Ok, I've got those 4, and 4 only (minus comments of course) |
| 02:39.20 | sheevan | but te reciever thinks that it's spam |
| 02:39.21 | dondelelcaro | sheevan: or use echo "mail message" |mail -s subject -a 'From: foo@bar.com' blehblah@foo.com |
| 02:39.26 | Smerdyakov | sheevan, exim should never change the From header like that, as far as I know. |
| 02:39.29 | sQuizanto | does anyone know how to get courier to be used as an smtp server from an IP that is not hte local machine? i wnat to use my box at home as my smtp server, but it keeps telling me relaying denied |
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| 02:39.37 | dondelelcaro | sheevan: that's probably because you picked a bad From: |
| 02:39.47 | dondelelcaro | sheevan: the From: typically must resolve. |
| 02:40.24 | switch_ | ok, gcc refuses to be fixed, is there another option? |
| 02:40.36 | jedi_ | dondelelcaro: So when networking service is restarted, DHCP should be called? |
| 02:40.39 | lok3 | you guys had luck with 2.6.8 compiling? |
| 02:40.48 | dondelelcaro | jedi_: exactly. |
| 02:40.52 | lok3 | and booting? |
| 02:40.58 | dondelelcaro | switch_: paste the exact error that you're getting into #flood |
| 02:41.08 | dondelelcaro | lok3: people have reported issues with even 2.6.8.1 |
| 02:41.15 | dondelelcaro | lok3: you definetly shouldn't be running 2.6.8 |
| 02:41.36 | jedi_ | dondelelcaro: Ok, holding my breath, restarting it, and praying. |
| 02:41.47 | lok3 | dondelelcaro, k, i thought i just sucked for a minute |
| 02:42.13 | dondelelcaro | lok3: well, the problem still might be pebcak... |
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| 02:42.32 | lok3 | dondelelcaro couldnt get it to boot on two seperate compiles |
| 02:42.46 | jedi_ | dondelelcaro: restarted, still online, this has to be a good thing. Thank you. |
| 02:42.48 | dbeal | Hello, world. |
| 02:42.54 | dondelelcaro | jedi_: np |
| 02:42.57 | dbeal | great. i compiled. |
| 02:43.05 | dbeal | ooh, i read that one too. |
| 02:43.15 | dbeal | stop scrolling. set output null. |
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| 02:43.29 | dondelelcaro | switch_: you need to run apt-get update again, or get a more up-to date mirror. |
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| 02:43.44 | dondelelcaro | !info gcc-3.3 sarge |
| 02:43.46 | dpkg | gcc-3.3: (The GNU C compiler), section devel, is standard. Version: 1:3.3.4-6sarge1.1 (sarge), Packaged size: 1570 kB, Installed size: 4124 kB |
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| 02:44.03 | dondelelcaro | !info cpp-3.3 |
| 02:44.05 | dpkg | cpp-3.3: (The GNU C preprocessor), section interpreters, is standard. Version: 1:3.3.4-9 (sid), Packaged size: 1358 kB, Installed size: 3132 kB |
| 02:44.10 | dbeal | wondering if there's a way to setup a linux kernel onto a fscked up floppy, reliably, robustly, crustily, and with maximum goodliness. |
| 02:44.17 | switch_ | dondelelcaro, excellent, do you know how up to date the msu mirror is? |
| 02:44.25 | Smerdyakov | So is something horribly wrong if files written by libgbdm3 can't be read by libdb3? |
| 02:44.35 | dondelelcaro | sussudio: looks like it went through t-p-u |
| 02:44.36 | lok3 | sussudio whats broken? |
| 02:44.37 | dbeal | something related to marking badblocks? yet the kernel loader needs to know about it. |
| 02:44.47 | sussudio | dondelelcaro: turbopascal unit? |
| 02:44.55 | dondelelcaro | sussudio: testing-proposed-updates |
| 02:45.00 | sussudio | :-| |
| 02:45.12 | Evilpig | switch_: would you mind repasting your error in #flood again? i'm having gcc issues too that aren't fixed by the solution suggested in the topic |
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| 02:45.17 | dabreegster | If there are some files on a server, like prog_blah, prog_foo, etc, can I somehow use wildcards with wget? |
| 02:45.21 | dondelelcaro | switch_: no clue. But if it only has cpp-3.3 3.3.2, it's not very up to date. Try an official mirror, like one of the debian.org ones. |
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| 02:46.11 | dondelelcaro | the fix in the topic is specifically for the file conflicts error, not any other issue... |
| 02:46.22 | switch_ | actually I am using ftp.us.debian.org at the moment.... |
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| 02:47.40 | dbeal | i don't see that grub has bad block aversion logic |
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| 02:48.06 | dondelelcaro | switch_: hrm... try running apt-get update again... |
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| 02:48.49 | dondelelcaro | switch_: apt-cache show gcc-3.3 should report an available version > 3.3.4 |
| 02:48.53 | dbeal | something remotely related to linux-bad-dimm mapper |
| 02:48.54 | switch_ | dondelelcaro, no difference, let me add another source. |
| 02:49.20 | Smerdyakov | Does anyone know how to get exim4 to read courier-imap's userdbshadow.dat? |
| 02:49.24 | dondelelcaro | switch_: dpkg's (the bot's) information is from http.us.debian.org... |
| 02:49.36 | jedi_ | dondelelcaro: DHCP seems to renew very fast (several times in 5 mins). I guess that is a bad thing? |
| 02:49.41 | switch_ | thanks dondelelcaro let me give that a try |
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| 02:49.52 | dondelelcaro | jedi_: which dhcp server is it renewing from? |
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| 02:50.06 | dondelelcaro | jedi_: if the lease is short, it really doesn't have a choice. |
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| 02:50.28 | dondelelcaro | Evilpig: apply the fix that's in the topic. |
| 02:50.40 | dondelelcaro | Evilpig: or dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/gcc-3.3_1%3a3.3.4-6sarge1.1_i386.deb |
| 02:50.41 | jedi_ | dondelelcaro: Cogeco.ca's DHCP server. They say its a 48 hours lease. |
| 02:50.52 | dondelelcaro | jedi_: well, they lie... |
| 02:50.56 | dbeal | humm..anybody? |
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| 02:51.18 | jedi_ | dondelelcaro: It's renewing every minute it looks like to me. Isn't that excessive network spam? |
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| 02:51.32 | *** topic/#debian by dondelelcaro -> READ THE FAQ: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ | READ THE BTS: /msg dpkg bts | Paste in #flood NOT here | /msg bots NOT people | Debian != Knoppix | sarge Base+Standard is now frozen; RC1 installer: /msg dpkg d-i | BROKEN: gcc (#268338) use apt-get -o DPkg::Options="--force-overwrite" install gcc; kdelibs4/libopenexr0 (#266504), libapr0 (#266165) | FIXED: | SECURITY: READ YOUR DSA! |
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| 02:51.51 | scott_ | is there an easy grub configuration utility? I'm trying to get it to boot my winxp drive, editing the menu.lst, but it won't. |
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| 02:51.54 | dondelelcaro | try again using DPkg instead of Dpkg for those people who were having problems with gcc |
| 02:52.01 | dbeal | i.e., kernel-patch-badram |
| 02:52.09 | dondelelcaro | jedi_: well, it's only a single packet, so it's not really a big deal... |
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| 02:52.44 | dbeal | i want to use all my badram. matter of fact, all my ram is badram (eventually). |
| 02:52.46 | cujillo | after installing debian is there an autodetect for X ? |
| 02:53.04 | kaplanfx | dondelelcaro: which ver is gcc broken in? |
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| 02:53.08 | sanxiyn | cujillo: Yes. |
| 02:53.18 | jedi_ | dondelelcaro: Can I show you something in #flood? |
| 02:53.25 | dbeal | doesn't all/most memory deteriorate/decay according to a logarithmic function? |
| 02:53.31 | dondelelcaro | jedi_: but look at the leases file if you're concerned... /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.leases |
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| 02:53.38 | dondelelcaro | jedi_: go right ahead. |
| 02:53.38 | sanxiyn | cujillo: It worked for me for Radeon and Nvidia on laptop... |
| 02:53.51 | dondelelcaro | kaplanfx: I think it's the 3.3.4-6sarge1.1 |
| 02:54.00 | Evilpig | dondelelcaro: that dpkg command worked for me after i manually apt-get installed binutils |
| 02:54.02 | Evilpig | thanks ;-) |
| 02:54.03 | kaplanfx | dondelelcaro: thanks |
| 02:54.14 | jedi_ | dondelelcaro: Does this look unusual to you? |
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| 02:54.28 | ugly | cujillo: install discover mdetect read-edid |
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| 02:54.44 | ugly | cujillo: then it should properly auto-detect during X config |
| 02:54.44 | sanxiyn | ugly: ? |
| 02:55.09 | ugly | sanxiyn: apt-cache show xserver-xfree86 | grep Suggests |
| 02:55.17 | enigmus | anyone knows when enlightenment 16.7.1 is to be released in unstable? |
| 02:55.23 | jedi_ | dondelelcaro: Thoughts on that? |
| 02:55.34 | dondelelcaro | jedi_: yeah. Something started dhclient without options. Show me your /etc/network/interfaces |
| 02:55.52 | sanxiyn | ugly: Hm, didn't know that. I chose "Desktop Environment" task and it just worked :-) |
| 02:55.52 | switch_ | dondelelcaro, Well I am using http.us.debian.org as a source and it still fails to mention that gcc can be updated, although it appears to download the new list from each new server I added. Any idea? |
| 02:56.03 | cujillo | Ugly what's the package ? |
| 02:56.06 | ugly | sanxiyn: it might have installed those packages - dunno |
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| 02:56.17 | ugly | cujillo: package for what? |
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| 02:56.21 | dondelelcaro | switch_: try the comand in the topic with DPkg instead of Dpkg |
| 02:56.28 | sanxiyn | cujillo: Well, for me, using new Sarge Debian Installer, it worked without manual intervention... |
| 02:56.28 | jedi_ | dondelelcaro: Its in #flood. |
| 02:56.38 | macula | hey guys, im trying to setup a software raid to install debian on.. whats the best way to do it |
| 02:56.47 | switch_ | dondelelcaro No change |
| 02:56.51 | jedi_ | dondelelcaro: I may have started it without options much earlier, but that was before restarting networking service. |
| 02:56.52 | dondelelcaro | jedi_: ok, that looks fine... You've porbably just got a copy of dhclient running that shouldn't be. |
| 02:57.15 | ugly | macula: search google for linux software raid howto - I'm assuming it's not obsolete |
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| 02:57.34 | macula | ugly, that more so describes howto do it once the os is already installed |
| 02:57.42 | ugly | macula: v1.1, 2004-06-03 - yea pretty up-to-date |
| 02:57.44 | dondelelcaro | switch_: run apt-cache show cpp-3.3; you should see 3.3.4-6sarge1.1 or so |
| 02:57.55 | ugly | macula: oh, misread what he asked |
| 02:58.01 | ugly | er, what you asked ;) |
| 02:58.08 | jedi_ | dondelelcaro: <smirks> Look in #flood |
| 02:58.09 | macula | hey guys, im trying to setup a software raid to install debian on.. whats the best way to do it |
| 02:58.11 | macula | hehe |
| 02:58.19 | dondelelcaro | jedi_: yeah, all of those should be killed off. |
| 02:58.26 | dondelelcaro | well, all of them save one. |
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| 02:58.37 | kvn | Avoiding software raid is your best choice. :) |
| 02:58.47 | switch_ | dondelelcaro Yes that is exaclly what I see |
| 02:58.58 | dabreegster | Anyway to use wildcards in wget, like wget server.com/prog_* ? |
| 02:59.15 | dondelelcaro | dabreegster: no, because globbing doesn't work that way. |
| 02:59.36 | jedi_ | dondelelcaro: So I restarted networking after killing all dhclient. Only one dhclient running now. Sounds right? |
| 02:59.39 | dabreegster | dondelelcaro: ok |
| 02:59.41 | dondelelcaro | dabreegster: you can use --reject to approximate it if you have a list of prog that are there. |
| 02:59.53 | dondelelcaro | jedi_: yerp. |
| 03:00.05 | dondelelcaro | jedi_: and you shouldn't see any more of the lo messages. |
| 03:00.09 | dabreegster | dondelelcaro: mmkay |
| 03:00.13 | cujillo | sanxiyn, from where did you get that Sarge installer ? |
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| 03:00.28 | sanxiyn | cujillo: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
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| 03:00.31 | macula | ugly, you get that? |
| 03:00.35 | dabreegster | Anybody familiar with the wb0 program, or know another browser that can be run in SVGA mode that'll display images? |
| 03:00.40 | Without-Nickname | Hi ! Can I install Debian with only one CD-Rom ? |
| 03:00.43 | jedi_ | dondelelcaro: What caused it to look on lo? |
| 03:00.46 | Without-Nickname | Without internet :) |
| 03:00.46 | sanxiyn | cujillo: To-be-official installer. |
| 03:00.47 | ugly | macula: did I get the sarge installer? yes |
| 03:00.57 | dondelelcaro | jedi_: starting it without options will do that. |
| 03:01.08 | macula | ugly, did you get the question i asked.. about isntalling debian on software raid. |
| 03:01.19 | macula | ugly, me no care about sarge installer ;) |
| 03:01.21 | ugly | macula: yes, but I don't know the answer |
| 03:01.33 | ugly | macula: not even sure it's possible to do |
| 03:01.38 | Without-Nickname | What is NON_US CD ? |
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| 03:01.53 | macula | ugly, i see the raid option in dd... it is a fs type.. just not sure howto use the shiut |
| 03:01.53 | dondelelcaro | Without-Nickname: a cd that's mainly empty now days... |
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| 03:01.56 | AdrianLP | dondelelcaro: Oh, because it was searching all devices? |
| 03:02.02 | dondelelcaro | AdrianLP: basically, yes. |
| 03:02.04 | cujillo | sanxiyn, Sarge installer is in debian 3 CD ?? |
| 03:02.15 | ugly | cujillo: no.. 3.1 |
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| 03:02.31 | dabreegster | gcc is complaining that I need vga.h and vgagl.h is there a package that contains those headers? |
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| 03:02.40 | Without-Nickname | dondelelcaro, So I can't install debian with the NON_US CD ? |
| 03:02.48 | ugly | dabreegster: packages.debian.org - scroll down to "Search contents of packages" |
| 03:02.48 | kaplanfx | cujillo: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 03:02.50 | dondelelcaro | !tell dabreegster about search |
| 03:02.51 | sanxiyn | dabreegster: apt-file is your friend :-) |
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| 03:03.01 | dabreegster | ugly: ok |
| 03:03.09 | dabreegster | sanxiyn: ok |
| 03:03.12 | cujillo | i download the iso of the last stable version |
| 03:03.21 | Without-Nickname | which iso |
| 03:03.26 | vook | anyone know how (or if it's possible) to direct grub (or lilo) to boot to a cd? |
| 03:03.28 | cujillo | i dont remember the No |
| 03:03.34 | dondelelcaro | Without-Nickname: I'm not sure if the non-us cd actually has an installer on it. Just get the sarge installer from http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer |
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| 03:03.38 | Without-Nickname | Im looking for the ISO but I dont know which one to take...I see 3 CDs |
| 03:03.42 | DavidH | Hi folks. Is there currently a problem with the installation of gcc from sarge? |
| 03:03.50 | kaplanfx | cujillo: you can upgrade to sarge from that iso. it was probably called woody. |
| 03:03.55 | dondelelcaro | !topicsmite DavidH |
| 03:03.56 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon DavidH. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 03:03.58 | Phated | DavidH: /topic |
| 03:04.03 | cujillo | yup |
| 03:04.05 | cujillo | woody |
| 03:04.19 | Squirel2 | IS woody still the best for web servers? |
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| 03:04.30 | kaplanfx | cujillo: just change you apt sources to point at testing and a sarge system you will have |
| 03:04.41 | kaplanfx | s/you/your |
| 03:04.48 | dondelelcaro | Squirel2: yes, untill sarge is released. |
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| 03:04.58 | sanxiyn | cujillo: Woody installer (actually, Woody XFree86 package) won't auto-configure X, but upgrading to Sarge would do that. |
| 03:05.04 | Squirel2 | anyone got a cpanel on debian 3.0? |
| 03:05.08 | ugly | Squirel2: since woody is going to be replaced by sarge within a month or two, I wouldn't bother with it (some people here might slap me for saying that though :P) |
| 03:05.09 | cujillo | kaplanfx, apt-get update right ? |
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| 03:05.23 | sanxiyn | cujillo: apt-get update, and apt-get upgrade. |
| 03:05.30 | Squirel2 | so sarge will be made stable? |
| 03:05.35 | kaplanfx | cujillo: once you have the correct sources, yes. you'll also need apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 03:05.38 | sanxiyn | Squirel2: Yes. Soon. |
| 03:05.52 | Squirel2 | fuck, I might as well just cahnge my sources to sarge. |
| 03:05.52 | cujillo | the prob is that i cant connect to the internet |
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| 03:06.21 | Without-Nickname | Does Debian has easy-wireless connection ? Could I download only the minimal installation and innstall from internet with my wireless PCMCIA linksys WPC11 version 3 card ? |
| 03:06.21 | ugly | ~tell Squirel2 about woody->sarge |
| 03:06.22 | kaplanfx | Squirel2: try out the new installer, its nice |
| 03:06.22 | sanxiyn | cujillo: Okay, configuring X with help of debconf is not that hard at all. |
| 03:06.22 | plangent | Has anyone done an smp install lately? |
| 03:06.28 | kaplanfx | Without-Nickname: not woody |
| 03:06.31 | switch_ | dondelelcaro, is it possible to clear the apt cache, I have tried 3 seperate sources and all are giving me the older version of gcc |
| 03:06.33 | dondelelcaro | Without-Nickname: if linux actually supports your card, the sarge install disk will do it |
| 03:06.50 | dondelelcaro | switch_: the cache isn't the issue... The issue is the package lists... |
| 03:06.53 | kaplanfx | dondelelcaro: it supports that card, I have one |
| 03:07.02 | Without-Nickname | So I can use mu wireless card to install debian ? |
| 03:07.06 | cujillo | im from knoppix hd install |
| 03:07.08 | dondelelcaro | Without-Nickname: in theory, yes. |
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| 03:07.27 | cujillo | but when i installed from debian cd i cant connecto to internet |
| 03:07.29 | Without-Nickname | dondelelcaro, easily ? Automatically ? |
| 03:07.48 | dondelelcaro | Without-Nickname: easily yes. Automatically, maybe... if you have a drinky bird... |
| 03:07.56 | Without-Nickname | LOL |
| 03:08.27 | Without-Nickname | Who succeeded installing automatically debian from the minimal installation and using wireless card ? |
| 03:09.01 | switch_ | dondelelcaro: yes I agree, I am using the same sources on my other linux box, and it wokred perfectly, although gcc is the same version |
| 03:09.08 | DavidH | dondelelcaro, Phated -- thanks. (The topic here is so dense my eyes glazed over. But I think I've got my answer.) |
| 03:09.21 | kaplanfx | stupid bittorrent, everyone is at 94.4%, 280 peers no seeds, and its a damn 2.1 gig file |
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| 03:10.05 | scarynetworkguy | kaplanfx: what are you trying to grab? |
| 03:10.13 | ugly | kaplanfx: that's jesus' way of telling you not to download porn DVD images |
| 03:10.25 | macbr | helo |
| 03:11.16 | kaplanfx | scarynetworkguy: free bsd iso's |
| 03:11.25 | kaplanfx | scarynetworkguy: should have just gotten it from ftp |
| 03:11.41 | kaplanfx | now im 2 gigs into a d/l, doh |
| 03:11.47 | Without-Nickname | Does Debian works better with my wireless card than FreeBSD ? |
| 03:11.59 | trogger | Without-Nickname: very likely |
| 03:12.28 | dondelelcaro | switch_: well, you can just visit your local debian mirror and download the cpp package manually... |
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| 03:13.51 | dondelelcaro | switch_: it's http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/gcc-3.3/cpp-3.3_3.3.4-6sarge1.1_i386.deb |
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| 03:14.05 | dondelelcaro | switch_: or use packages.debian.org to find it. |
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| 03:14.32 | scott_ | does anyone use grub to dual boot with winxp? |
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| 03:14.38 | Phated | DavidH: :) |
| 03:15.04 | Teakk | With a default debian sarge install, if you log into X as user ABC, then open a termina, su - to root, and try to run an app like gedit, it wont allow you to...any ideas how to perm fix that, rather than copying ~ABC/.Xauthority every time? |
| 03:15.13 | switch_ | Thanks for all the help dondelelcaro |
| 03:15.21 | dondelelcaro | dabreegster: then use packages.debian.org or /msg dpkg find foo |
| 03:15.22 | dondelelcaro | switch_: np |
| 03:15.36 | dondelelcaro | Teakk: use su; not su -; |
| 03:15.51 | rich_ | Teakk yes, link the users .Xauthority to roots .Xauthority |
| 03:15.52 | dondelelcaro | Teakk: or, if you must use su -; set XAUTHORIY correectly. |
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| 03:16.09 | dabreegster | dondelelcaro: ok |
| 03:16.24 | kaplanfx | scarynetworkguy: the neat thing about bittorrent is that once a seed connects, the last few percent will spread like a virus with 280 peers around |
| 03:16.54 | scarynetworkguy | kaplanfx: yeah bittorenet is pretty damn cool |
| 03:16.59 | pompom | Teakk: or type in console of user: xhost + |
| 03:17.04 | dondelelcaro | kaplanfx: although it is kind of surprising that there are zero seeds and 280 peers |
| 03:17.15 | kaplanfx | dondelelcaro: yeah it sucks |
| 03:17.40 | kaplanfx | scarynetworkguy: I didn't like it until I got azureus. |
| 03:17.47 | dondelelcaro | don't ever use xhost + |
| 03:17.51 | marianito | i was |
| 03:17.53 | Fulcrum99 | Is it possible for someone to be snooping on the loopback interface, or would that require that you be screwed already anyway? |
| 03:18.20 | dondelelcaro | !xhost +localhost |
| 03:18.20 | dpkg | rumour has it, xhost +localhost is <Overfiend> xhost +localhost should only be done by people who would paint their hostname and root password on an interstate overpass. |
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| 03:18.43 | jedi_ | dondelelcaro: regarding dhcp-client, what does this mean, "dhclient: No working leases in persistent database - sleeping." That means it as no active lease? |
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| 03:19.02 | dondelelcaro | jedi_: most likely... |
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| 03:19.27 | jedi_ | dondelelcaro: Given that I'm currently using a leased IP, this is a bad thing right, being told there is no workign lease? |
| 03:19.38 | dondelelcaro | jedi_: if it's working, you can just ignore it. |
| 03:19.48 | Teakk | dondelelcaro: even after using 'su', it does not give me X rights |
| 03:19.57 | AdrianLP | dondelelcaro: K. It just did this before, then after X many hours connectivity was lost. |
| 03:20.00 | dondelelcaro | Teakk: then you don't have xauth installed. |
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| 03:20.11 | nailbiter | Teakk: use 'sux' instead (from the 'sux' package). it'll copy your X credentials across to root's account automatically. |
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| 03:20.32 | newbie_ | Where is the 'login' script for bash? When you start your computer |
| 03:20.39 | dondelelcaro | Teakk: or you still don't have XAUTHORITY set properly... |
| 03:20.46 | dondelelcaro | newbie_: you mean /etc/bashrc ? |
| 03:21.10 | nailbiter | newbie_: when you start a login shell, bash will source /etc/profile and then ~/.bash_profile. on a non-login shell, it's /etc/bashrc and ~/.bashrc. |
| 03:21.13 | newbie_ | dondelelcaro: Maybe,, I want "linuxlogo" to show up every time you logoff, and when computer starts |
| 03:21.13 | Teakk | dondelelcaro: I am asking how to edit the .Xauthority file, or whatever needs to be done to get it working properly for root |
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| 03:21.46 | dondelelcaro | Teakk: all you need to do is install xauth, which will setup the keys properly for you to be able to connect to the X server. |
| 03:21.49 | DarknessX | what's the difference between a "Primary" and a "logica" partition to a HDD? |
| 03:21.56 | DarknessX | logical, that is |
| 03:21.59 | newbie_ | But, thanks :) |
| 03:22.11 | nailbiter | newbie_: you might be looking for a bootsplash, then. :) have a look at the screenshots at http://bootsplash.de. |
| 03:22.14 | dondelelcaro | Teakk: then, when you're running as root, your XAUTHORY="/home/userwhoisrunningxserver/.Xauthority" |
| 03:22.16 | newbie_ | yepp |
| 03:22.38 | dondelelcaro | Teakk: you can also copy /home/userwhoisrunningxserver/.Xauthority /root/.Xauthority |
| 03:22.39 | pompom | you can create max 4 partition primary, and max around 63 logical |
| 03:22.44 | Teakk | dondelelcaro: xauth is installed |
| 03:23.01 | dondelelcaro | Teakk: ok, then run su; then check XAUTHORITY |
| 03:23.33 | Teakk | dondelelcaro: if I copy the ~user/.Xauthority file to /root/.Xauthority, and try to run 'gedit', I get Gtk-warning: can not connect to display: |
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| 03:24.26 | Teakk | and dondelelcaro, wouldnt this method require me to copy the xauthority file every time I restart X? I am trying to find a 'permanent' solution |
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| 03:25.10 | dondelelcaro | Teakk: you actually don't have to do either. Just run su. Then run env. Check what XAUTHORITY and DISPLAY are set to. |
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| 03:25.18 | cdemwe11 | scarynetworkguy: Fixed the issue! |
| 03:25.21 | hxizan | is there any package that can work like MDaemon on windows? |
| 03:25.25 | newbie_ | Hmmm, How can I get 'linuxlogo' to start everytime I start my computer in login promt, and when I logg off? |
| 03:25.28 | cdemwe11 | it was module-init-tools |
| 03:25.31 | nailbiter | DarknessX: a primary partition gets declared in one of the four slots in your partition table. a logical partition is actually a second partition table nested in the first .. |
| 03:25.32 | scarynetworkguy | cdemwe11: cool |
| 03:25.42 | hacim | hey anyone know why when I go to #asterisk I see nobody at all? |
| 03:25.46 | cdemwe11 | It's been so long since I did a 2.6 upgrade I totally forgot about it |
| 03:25.49 | DarknessX | ahh, great. Thanks. |
| 03:25.59 | nix000 | is there a utility that one could use to check the network cable wires are all aligned ? |
| 03:26.01 | dondelelcaro | Teakk: the only things that should change are your HOME and your shell. XAUTHORIY, LOGNAME, et al. should remain the same. |
| 03:26.03 | nailbiter | Teakk: see 'sux'. :) it's the easy way out. |
| 03:26.17 | cdemwe11 | nix000: You need a hardware thingy for that |
| 03:26.19 | dondelelcaro | nix000: not really... if you get a linkbeat, it's working. |
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| 03:26.36 | nailbiter | hxler: what does mdaemon do? |
| 03:26.53 | cdemwe11 | hacim: No idea. Did you misspell it |
| 03:26.54 | cdemwe11 | ? |
| 03:26.55 | Scheme | Wheres the conical hostname information stored? |
| 03:26.58 | ugly | newbie_: checked the documentation that comes with the linuxlogo package? check /usr/share/doc/linuxlogo or similar |
| 03:27.04 | dondelelcaro | Scheme: in /etc/hosts |
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| 03:27.17 | dondelelcaro | Scheme: man 5 hostname, read about FQDN |
| 03:27.19 | cdemwe11 | Scheme: Conical hosts? this must be a new network topology |
| 03:27.21 | dondelelcaro | s/5// |
| 03:27.27 | nix000 | dondelelcaro, i was thinkin something that shows green on all wires. |
| 03:27.49 | mobility | does anyone know of a log thats generated when hotswaping usb devices..??? |
| 03:27.59 | dondelelcaro | nix000: there are hardware testing kits to do that... from a simple $30 set with leds to $1000 flukes. |
| 03:28.01 | nailbiter | Scheme: your local system's hostname? it's in /etc/hostname, and gets slurped in at boot. use the 'hostname' utility to actually tell the kernel to change hostnames .. |
| 03:28.11 | cdemwe11 | mobility: dmesg, or /var/log/kern.log |
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| 03:29.37 | nix000 | dondelelcaro, where would be the best place to ask if this even existed. i am not a kernel guy myself. |
| 03:30.33 | newbie_ | How do I extract bz2 files? |
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| 03:30.36 | DavidH | Thanks folks & good night. |
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| 03:30.50 | nailbiter | newbie_: use 'bunzip2', or 'tar zxvf tarball.tar.bz2' |
| 03:30.52 | helix | dooky: don't even think about it. |
| 03:30.53 | simcop2387 | i use gentoo deal with it |
| 03:30.56 | newbie_ | ok |
| 03:30.57 | helix | simcop2387: troll. |
| 03:31.00 | dooky | helix: about what? |
| 03:31.00 | nailbiter | newbie_: uh, i mean 'tar jxvf tarball.tar.bz2' |
| 03:31.01 | simcop2387 | :) |
| 03:31.02 | The_Walrus | hi everyone... someone uses roaring penguin with adsl? |
| 03:31.12 | dooky | i'm just here to observ |
| 03:31.13 | dooky | +e |
| 03:31.21 | simcop2387 | i'm bored out of my mind looking for people in a bad mood :) i use both gentoo and debian |
| 03:31.26 | dondelelcaro | nix000: it doesn't. That stuff happens on the physical layer, and isn't reported by the device. |
| 03:31.31 | newbie_ | Thanks, I'm going to install a bootsplash, by the way.. Does kernel 2,4 support that? |