| 00:00.00 | nailbiter | kingsley: ok. suppose you want to back /bin up. "mkzftree /bin /tmp/bin && mkisofs -R -z -o /tmp/myimage.iso /tmp/bin" |
| 00:00.12 | DeMeritus | Kerr: An homage to our great and powerful lord, Satan. |
| 00:00.13 | mqa | What is the primary .deb repository server? |
| 00:00.25 | rich_ | Kerr Theres no real reason why not. You have to call them something. |
| 00:00.42 | DeMeritus | mqa: I use ftp.debian.org |
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| 00:00.50 | rich_ | Not everything has a reason |
| 00:00.51 | mqa | thanks |
| 00:00.54 | directhex | mqa, ftp.debian.org presumably |
| 00:00.57 | kingsley | nailbiter: Thanks. I'll try to show horn a "named pipe" into it to save HD space (I'm backing up to DVDs.) |
| 00:00.57 | sim_tin | what can i do, in generell, when the postinst-process of dpkg -i gives me an 'illegal instruction' error? |
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| 00:01.07 | Spundun_ | does taksel only have servers? nothing about desktop environment/xserver etc? |
| 00:01.21 | directhex | Spundun_, there's a desktop environemnt task in there |
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| 00:01.25 | nailbiter | kingsley: by the way -- i was wondering why you couldn't just do something like: "tar zcf /dev/cdrom /files/to/backup" once the DVD+RW media has been formatted? |
| 00:01.25 | mrwill | Spundun_: it has desktop stuff |
| 00:01.30 | Spundun_ | I run taksel here and I only get a list of 6-7 servers |
| 00:01.37 | mqa | all other mirrors feed from ftp.debian.org? |
| 00:01.42 | dfadel | hello ppl. anyone could me point a channel to talk about "Semantic Web Services" using owl-s and daml-s? |
| 00:01.48 | Galactic | nobody can help me ? |
| 00:02.03 | mrwill | Galactic: what's your question? |
| 00:02.06 | directhex | Spundun_, "desktop environment"? |
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| 00:02.22 | Spundun_ | directhex: mrwill: I dont see desktop task... only web/print/dns/file/mail/sql servers and manual package selection |
| 00:02.24 | Galactic | mrwill, i'm looking for a GUI newsclient to grab files with multipart ? (like Grabit under Windows) |
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| 00:02.32 | Wyzard | Galactic: pan |
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| 00:02.35 | kingsley | nailbiter: I haven't tried it. I'm hoping to be able to access individual files faster by using an ISO FS. |
| 00:02.47 | Wyzard | Galactic: (among others, probably) |
| 00:02.52 | Galactic | Wyzard, pan? |
| 00:03.00 | Wyzard | Galactic: It's a newsreader |
| 00:03.04 | Wyzard | Galactic: for GNOME |
| 00:03.18 | Galactic | Wyzard, i'm using KDE... |
| 00:03.20 | kingsley | nailbiter: s/access/restore/ |
| 00:03.44 | dfadel | hello ppl. anyone could me point a channel to talk about "Semantic Web Services" using owl-s and daml-s? |
| 00:03.48 | Wyzard | Galactic: I don't know of many KDE apps, sorry... but you could use pan temporarily until you find a native KDE newsreader |
| 00:03.57 | nailbiter | kingsley: ah, i see. :) well, good luck with the compressed iso image. |
| 00:04.07 | afcpack | Galactic: pan works just fine in kde |
| 00:04.12 | Galactic | Wyzard, there is the multipart support ? |
| 00:04.25 | Galactic | afcpack, ok thx |
| 00:04.29 | Wyzard | Galactic: pan is actually just a GTK app -- it doesn't depend on the GNOME libraries, so installing it won't pull them in |
| 00:04.31 | Wyzard | Galactic: yes |
| 00:04.51 | Galactic | Wyzard, kewl, i try this =) thx |
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| 00:05.55 | Tchiak | ok i caused a kernel panic :P |
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| 00:06.04 | Tchiak | i prolly shouldn't be doing this inebriated |
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| 00:06.10 | Spundun_ | directhex: I have tasksel version 2.09... I dont see desktop env or anything like that in it |
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| 00:06.18 | deepfrze | kingsley, I have a program to compress files, form an iso and write to disk, and chedk md5 |
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| 00:06.35 | ttaranto | how do I configure my PHP debian packages to use --with-vpopmail |
| 00:06.52 | pirving | does anyone know if debian uses syslinux of isolinux at bootup? |
| 00:07.12 | ttaranto | ? |
| 00:07.13 | kingsley | deepfrze: Looks good. Does it write the IOS to a DVD on the fly, without creating a temporary file on the HD? |
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| 00:07.25 | kingsley | deepfrze: s/IOS/ISO/ |
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| 00:07.29 | deepfrze | kingsley, is that what you want? it is slow accessing individual files though, |
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| 00:07.50 | ttaranto | how do I configure my PHP debian packages to use --with-vpopmail |
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| 00:07.58 | deepfrze | kingsley, no, it just writes to CD but you should be able to modify it...it's pretty basic |
| 00:08.02 | meff | hiya.. i have a via82cxxx ide chipset but it seems debian is detecting it as generic ide because i can't set dma on the disk.. is there any way to force it to use the via drivers? |
| 00:08.08 | kingsley | deepfrze: Partly. |
| 00:08.11 | Spundun_ | Anyone know how to fix my tasksel? it seems broken... it only has web/print/dns/file/mail/sql servers and manual package selection |
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| 00:08.20 | Gil | meff: is the via82cxxx module loaded? |
| 00:08.27 | caphuso | Spundun_: try running "dselect update" |
| 00:08.38 | meff | Gil not on boot but i just modprobe'd it and tried to set dma again, didn't work |
| 00:08.40 | kingsley | deepfrze: Does it use a temp file or stream to CDs? |
| 00:08.44 | Gil | meff: hmm |
| 00:08.59 | deepfrze | kingsley, it uses a temp file |
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| 00:09.13 | Spundun_ | caphuso: dselect finished: no updates were done.... |
| 00:09.16 | Galactic | Wyzard, do pan is multi connexion server ? |
| 00:09.24 | Galactic | hum.. "does" sorry |
| 00:09.24 | caphuso | Spundun_: try tasksel again |
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| 00:09.58 | ttaranto | how do I configure my PHP debian packages to use --with-vpopmail |
| 00:10.00 | r00t | http://gmail.google.com/gmail/a-b6425be532-387b96e9c5-5ee4cdcdab |
| 00:10.04 | Spundun_ | caphuso: still the same problem |
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| 00:10.32 | Spundun_ | caphuso: what should I expect inside tasksel? |
| 00:10.55 | pirving | I have a PDC 610 Digital Camera. What is the best program package to use? |
| 00:10.57 | pirving | any ideas? |
| 00:11.17 | citral | !any ideas |
| 00:11.17 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a bag of rutabagas, a little K-Y jelly, and a dozen sex-crazed badgers. And keep the cops off my back for the next few hours! |
| 00:11.25 | Gil | pirving: i found digikam for KDE to be a good tool |
| 00:11.25 | ttaranto | how do I configure my PHP debian packages to use --with-vpopmail |
| 00:11.34 | caphuso | Spundun_: depends on what version of debian you are using |
| 00:11.41 | RMis | any idea bout postfix error? > "fatal: no SASL authentication mechanisms" |
| 00:11.43 | pirving | I use fluxbox |
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| 00:11.46 | pirving | with KDE libs |
| 00:11.58 | Spundun_ | caphuso: sarge... just finished installing |
| 00:12.05 | meff | anyone know how to force debian to use an ide driver using a stock kernel? |
| 00:12.22 | car43i | somebody can say to me like expelling to another user from ssh in real time? |
| 00:12.33 | Tchiak | !any ideas |
| 00:12.33 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a box of rutabagas, a little thermal paste, and 42 rabid weasels. And keep the NSA off my back for the next few minutes! |
| 00:12.43 | Tchiak | O_O |
| 00:12.59 | alex_ | Is there a tool print utf-8 texts? Something like cedilla. |
| 00:13.10 | Tchiak | how would i set up a printer that is a network printer? |
| 00:13.17 | Tchiak | so i can print from here |
| 00:13.17 | alex_ | Tchiak: cups |
| 00:13.24 | Spundun_ | caphuso: I tried taks --list-tasks... it also printed only the list of servers... nothing else |
| 00:13.39 | Spundun_ | sorry s/tasks/tasksel/ |
| 00:13.47 | Gil | tasksel is so yesterday |
| 00:14.00 | alex_ | Gil: it's a troll, right |
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| 00:14.10 | Spundun_ | Gil: what should I use then? |
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| 00:14.19 | Gil | Spundun_: what do you need to install? |
| 00:14.20 | alex_ | Spundun_: try aptitude |
| 00:14.27 | Gil | yea, aptitude's a good one |
| 00:14.35 | Spundun_ | I cant understand aptitude ui |
| 00:14.35 | caphuso | Spundun_: does aptitude list more/other tasks? |
| 00:14.37 | ttaranto | how do I configure my PHP debian packages to use --with-vpopmail |
| 00:14.40 | alex_ | Spundun_: apt-get is great too, if you know what you want |
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| 00:15.01 | Spundun_ | I need to install x/gnome... is X.org xserver available in sarge? |
| 00:15.07 | citral | alex_: apt-cache search is good too, if you don't know what you want :) |
| 00:15.11 | Wyzard | alex_: All you need to print UTF-8 text is a Unicode-aware text editor and a font that provides glyphs for all the characters in the document |
| 00:15.18 | ttaranto | who do I build a PHP package to use the flag --with-vpopmail |
| 00:15.32 | Gil | !tell Spundun_ about install x |
| 00:15.38 | caphuso | ttaranto: apt-get source, edit debian/rules, dpkg-buildpackage |
| 00:15.56 | ttaranto | thanks caphuso |
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| 00:16.06 | citral | Spundun_: of course it is, a way is apt-get install x-window-system-core |
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| 00:16.15 | alex_ | Wyzard: But, I want something like lpr <filename.txt>, so it's possible to print it in batch mode |
| 00:16.17 | debianist | hi all |
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| 00:16.20 | paokouran | hi all |
| 00:16.31 | Gil | alex_: do you use CUPS as your print spooler? |
| 00:16.38 | alex_ | Spundun_: Why X.org anyway? It's not very ready yet, esp. hardware support |
| 00:16.39 | alex_ | Gil: yes |
| 00:16.41 | paokouran | we can t add kde 3.2 or gtk themes to kde 3.3??? |
| 00:16.43 | debianist | does anybody know where I can find good docs for remastering debin sarge? I mean, for making a forked distro |
| 00:16.53 | g4lt | !vns |
| 00:16.53 | dpkg | Version Number Syndrome. This occurs when cluebies assume that a higher version number means the intended program/kernel, whatever, works "better". |
| 00:16.55 | Gil | alex_: and you have the cupsys-bsd package? |
| 00:16.57 | paokouran | theme manager can t see tar files |
| 00:17.00 | alex_ | Gil: cupsys is the packages name. CHeck cupsys-drivers-gimpprint |
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| 00:17.18 | Wyzard | alex_: X.org is a fork of XFree86 so it supports all the hardware XFree86 does... you're probably thinking of Keith Packard's X server, the one with transparency support |
| 00:17.24 | alex_ | Gil: Yes, but it's for comptatibility. I have cupsys-client and cupsys-bsd---it does not change anything |
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| 00:17.31 | alex_ | Wyzard: not yet? |
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| 00:17.45 | Spundun_ | alex_: you are right... just for the kicks I guess... I hear its the future so wanted to start with that... thought it will be harder to migrate to it once I setup xf4 |
| 00:17.55 | Hass | "VFS: Cannot open root device "hda5" on unknown-block (0,0) Please append a correct "root=" boot option" w |
| 00:17.55 | Hass | heres the problem, in grub or in the .config of the kernel? |
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| 00:18.10 | bowman | is it possible to make awk print several fields with a simple command? example: print fields 1, 2, 3 and 4 would be print $1 $2 $3 $4. can that be written more compact? |
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| 00:18.24 | alex_ | Spundun_: hmm... maybe, I should reconsider the X server I use ;) |
| 00:18.32 | Spundun_ | to get back to tasksel problem.... aptitude also displays onlyh server and localization tasks |
| 00:18.42 | alex_ | Spundun_: no? |
| 00:19.08 | Wyzard | alex_: Anyway, regarding printing, if the "texttops" filter supports Unicode then you should already be able to print your document... I don't know whether it does, though, and unfortunately I've found the CUPS documentation to be fairly sparse on the internals of its configuration |
| 00:19.12 | alex_ | Spundun_: Actually, I have both, but I don't use tasksel for anything, since it's kinda crude |
| 00:19.17 | citral | Spundun_: just forget tasksel, apt-cache search package apt-get install package |
| 00:19.18 | Spundun_ | alex_: yes... in the task section I get only 3 subsetcion... server/loc/and unrecgnised |
| 00:20.04 | rares000 | how do I get a java plugin setup in firefox which is the best one to use and if possible what are the best choices for actually developing java apps |
| 00:20.06 | alex_ | Spundun_: Yeah, so for that you may use tasksel, or write your own tasks |
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| 00:20.46 | alex_ | Spundun_: that filter... it's not there... |
| 00:20.48 | DarknessX | !tell rares000 about java |
| 00:20.53 | citral | !tell rares000 about get-blackdown |
| 00:21.04 | alex_ | Spundun_: e.g. Why would you need to use tasksel anyway? |
| 00:21.20 | Wyzard | rares000: Firefox and recent Mozilla builds need a Java plugin which is built against GCC 3.3, and for some reason no such version is in the Debian archive... if you install Debian's j2re1.3 package it won't work with Firefox |
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| 00:21.47 | alex_ | Spundun_: With tasksel, you get a lot of bloat. It's only useful if you're exploring the system |
| 00:21.58 | Spundun_ | x-window-system-core is xf4 .. so no x.org stuff in sarge yet? |
| 00:22.03 | Spundun_ | alex_: okkey |
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| 00:22.43 | Wyzard | rares000: You might want to take a look at the "mpkg-j2se" package... Java support in Debian is pretty poor on the whole though, IMO |
| 00:23.25 | rares000 | where is mpkg-j2se? |
| 00:24.04 | Wyzard | rares000: It's in the official Debian archive, in unstable at least... dunno about sarge and woody |
| 00:24.07 | deepfrze | rares000, get the self extracting file from sun, works well |
| 00:24.25 | Wyzard | deepfrze: eww... avoid installing unpackaged software, it's messy |
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| 00:25.05 | Spundun | alex_: I take that the ans is no |
| 00:25.05 | ledet | anyone with experience with apt-proxy (version 2) have idea on what to with messages like "skipped - no suitable backend found" when trying to do and apt-proxy-import? |
| 00:25.08 | deepfrze | Wyzard, no, it snot |
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| 00:25.13 | Wyzard | deepfrze: Yes, it is |
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| 00:25.35 | alex_ | Spundun: What's the question? |
| 00:25.46 | ttaranto | caphuso where can I find more infos about buildpackage |
| 00:25.54 | caphuso | ttaranto: about what? |
| 00:26.32 | ttaranto | caphuso dpkg-buildpacka |
| 00:26.32 | Tchiak | umm PeterS i don't have a lilo.conf file :| |
| 00:26.39 | Wyzard | deepfrze: If you install Sun's upstream release, you get files sitting on your system which dpkg can't uninstall or upgrade, and which don't satisfy dependencies on virtual packages like "java-runtime" and the like |
| 00:26.46 | peterS | Tchiak: are you booting with grub rather that lilo, then? |
| 00:26.49 | Wyzard | deepfrze: i.e. a mess |
| 00:26.54 | caphuso | ttaranto: the man page, or the developer docs at www.debian.org |
| 00:26.55 | peterS | Tchiak: I thought lilo was installed by default with debian 3.0 |
| 00:26.55 | Tchiak | i'm booting by bootdisk |
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| 00:27.00 | peterS | Tchiak: ahh |
| 00:27.09 | Spundun | alex_: is x.org x server available in sarge? |
| 00:27.12 | peterS | Tchiak: well, I'm not sure how to update a floppy with a debian kernel image |
| 00:27.17 | Tchiak | my system configuration prohibits using MBR |
| 00:27.25 | peterS | Tchiak: since the image plus initrd will not fit on a single floppy, you'd have to use two somehow |
| 00:27.26 | Tchiak | would mkboot work? |
| 00:27.26 | directhex | !xorg |
| 00:27.26 | dpkg | from memory, xorg is an alternative X implementation (a fork of XFree86 4.4RC2) from the X.Org Foundation - the current release is X11R6.7. It will not be packaged for Debian until after the Sarge release. At that time, Debian will probably go with the new modular packages of X.org, if it is ready, or the monolithic release if not. See http://people.debian.org/~terpstra/message/20040712.051027.74293658.html for more information . |
| 00:27.54 | Wyzard | Tchiak: I'll take a look at those, thanks |
| 00:28.15 | peterS | Tchiak: I don't know anything about mkboot |
| 00:28.21 | Wyzard | oops |
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| 00:28.32 | alex_ | Spundun: no |
| 00:28.46 | Wyzard | ledet: see my above message that was mis-targeted at Tchiak :-) |
| 00:28.51 | peterS | Tchiak: I could be wrong about fitting the initrd and the kernel onto the same floppy image. it might be possible in 2.4.18. it's likely not possible in 2.6 kernels |
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| 00:29.22 | ledet | Wyzard: theyve worked like a charm for me anyway (unstable) |
| 00:30.37 | shwag | Spundun, in about 2 or 3 years |
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| 00:31.27 | Tchiak | PeterS how do i make a lilo conf file? |
| 00:31.27 | kyle__ | Does the portmap in debian 3.1, kernel 2.4.22 support rpc over tcp? |
| 00:31.30 | Tchiak | is there a program to do that? |
| 00:31.55 | peterS | Tchiak: start by installing lilo. but if you're starting fresh anyway, may as well start by installing grub, which is really better anyhow |
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| 00:32.48 | ledet | Wyzard: thank me by answering my question :) |
| 00:33.06 | malex | Are the process tools in Debian compatible with the new BSD Process Accounting version 3 file format in kernel 2.6.x? |
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| 00:34.15 | TheSin | anyone here have expirence with a sarge install on a Adaptec 1210SA RAID1 setup? |
| 00:34.24 | peterS | malex: I don't know the answer, but in general, you should *not* expect things in debian 3.0 (woody) to be compatible with kernel 2.6 |
| 00:34.48 | peterS | malex: whereas if you update to debian 3.1 (sarge, unreleased so far), by and large, tools have been updated to work with kernel 2.6 just fine |
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| 00:35.45 | malex | peterS: It's sid, but this new file format made its entry in 2.6.6 or somethere at that time, so I was being cautious. |
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| 00:37.10 | peterS | malex: ahh. that *is* pretty recent. I don't know the answer, as I said, and probably nobody else here does either :/ |
| 00:37.16 | Galactic | Wyzard, yeah! works great! thx very much =) |
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| 00:38.17 | rares000 | is blackdown gpl'd? |
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| 00:39.05 | cafuego | rares000: No, as Java isn't GPL. |
| 00:39.22 | peterS | some time tonight I'm gonna have to start picking up the kitchen |
| 00:39.29 | Galactic | afcpack, do u know if there is a soft to check the part file and repair it ? |
| 00:39.38 | Spundun | Whats the command to recofigure a package? (In this case xf4)? |
| 00:39.46 | Galactic | like quickpart |
| 00:39.49 | afcpack | Galactic: the par2 files? |
| 00:39.56 | Galactic | afcpack, yes |
| 00:40.06 | njs | Spundun: dpkg-reconfigure <package name> (in this case xserver-xfree86, IIRC) |
| 00:40.18 | DarknessX | I'm having some serious package trauma. I'm trying to install openoffice.org, and it's not working. If I install, it says it has failed dependancies, which 'apt-get check' won't pick up. If I look into the stuff more carefully it looks like openoffice.org won't install because openoffice.org-debian-files won't install, but openoffice.org-debian-files won't install because openoffice.org isn't configured. I can't 'apt-get remove' |
| 00:40.18 | DarknessX | either. Any ideas? |
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| 00:40.33 | afcpack | Galactic: apt-get par2 |
| 00:40.50 | peterS | DarknessX: try 'dpkg --pending --configure' or 'apt-get -f install' |
| 00:40.51 | Galactic | afcpack, ho nice =) and gui version ? |
| 00:40.58 | Tchiak | Have you tried screaming yet? |
| 00:41.02 | peterS | DarknessX: one or two rounds of that sort of thing generally works out these circular dependencies |
| 00:41.08 | afcpack | Galactic: I don't think there is one |
| 00:41.09 | DarknessX | ok |
| 00:41.19 | Galactic | afcpack, ok thx =) |
| 00:41.54 | Spundun | njs: that command is not there on my system |
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| 00:42.06 | afcpack | Galactic: you should also make sure you have rar installed :) |
| 00:42.10 | DarknessX | peterS: neither is doing anything except spitting out an error message (they look the same, too) |
| 00:42.38 | TheHighlander | can anyone help with a video card/x-windows issue? |
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| 00:42.56 | Seb | hi fellows |
| 00:42.56 | Galactic | afcpack, yes =) i install it soon hehe i'm using news under XP..but i'm news on Deby and i want to grab too... so.. :) |
| 00:43.01 | peterS | DarknessX: can you paste the exact error messages into the #flood channel? |
| 00:43.05 | peterS | DarknessX: I'll look at them there |
| 00:43.07 | DarknessX | peterS: sure |
| 00:43.31 | TheHighlander | it say no screens found |
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| 00:43.32 | Seb | anyone having any succes using firefox -remote "openurl(www.google.com,new-tab)" or the likes ? It keeps on telling me "No running window found"... |
| 00:43.32 | Spundun | njs: sorry its there.. I was not root before |
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| 00:44.13 | aktinos | Seb: try firefox -a firefox -remote ... |
| 00:44.27 | TheHighlander | anyone? |
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| 00:44.54 | Seb | aktinos: I did try that after googling, it returns the same thing |
| 00:44.58 | marmot | TheHighlander, usually means your using the wrong driver module |
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| 00:45.51 | TheHighlander | even when it says my driver module? |
| 00:46.01 | TheHighlander | i am confused! |
| 00:47.06 | shwag | so my firewall can ping the remote address...but my LAN stations can not. What am I doing wrong ? |
| 00:47.09 | TheSin | why can't adaptec support debian instead of Suse and RH? :P |
| 00:47.10 | shwag | did a mtr ... saw a ????? after the firewall address. |
| 00:47.15 | shwag | i think its either a route or a rule. |
| 00:47.16 | caphuso | Seb: what window manager are you using? |
| 00:47.23 | shwag | soo.... |
| 00:47.23 | Seb | caphuso: sawfish |
| 00:47.27 | shwag | so what can I test ? |
| 00:47.30 | TheHighlander | ok how do you get it to copy the whole long error message, so you can put it on the web? |
| 00:47.54 | Seb | shwag: you did not enable forwarding |
| 00:48.08 | Seb | shwag: read the netfilter howto ? |
| 00:48.09 | shwag | Seb, in proc ? |
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| 00:48.16 | Seb | shwag: that, and the iptables rules |
| 00:48.29 | caphuso | Seb: hmmm, that's reasonably conservative. do you have gnome installed? |
| 00:48.37 | Seb | caphuso: nope :> |
| 00:48.41 | TheHighlander | .... |
| 00:48.54 | shwag | Seb, which interface do I MASQ |
| 00:49.05 | Seb | shwag: you read the netfilter HOWTO is what you do |
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| 00:49.57 | Seb | caphuso: is it working for you ? I'd be OK to test with your window manager... |
| 00:50.01 | ningo | whats the CLI interface in blootbot good for? |
| 00:50.08 | caphuso | Seb: gnome-moz-remote is supposed to work way more reliable than |
| 00:50.30 | caphuso | Seb: firefox -remote |
| 00:50.43 | Seb | caphuso: ah, what package is gnome-moz-remote in ? |
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| 00:51.02 | caphuso | dpkg: +find bin/gnome-moz-remote |
| 00:51.03 | TheSin | ningo, not much |
| 00:51.04 | Seb | s/ a / of / |
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| 00:51.07 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bin/gnome-moz-remote' (1 shown): (/usr/bin/gnome-moz-remote) in gnome/gnome-bin. |
| 00:51.13 | Seb | thx |
| 00:51.18 | ningo | TheSin, what can you do with it? |
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| 00:54.44 | sgeigerbot | Help wanted with mod_proxy_html: I am using "apxs -a -c -I/usr/include/libxml2 -i mod_proxy_html.c" (trying both as root an as a regular user) to add info about mod_proxy_html.c to the apache config file...and to compile the module. That's all I need to do, according to the instructions I have seen. However, I'm getting these errors: http://www.ncee.net/temp/typescript |
| 00:54.54 | ningo | dpkg, CLI |
| 00:54.54 | dpkg | i guess cli is a Command Line Interface, the best form of interface around, of course Call-Level Interface, originally developed by SQL Access Group, but now known as Microsoft's ODBC standard. an x86 assembly instruction Common Language Infrastructure (See mono or .net), or http://osnews.com/story.php?news_id=6282&page=1 |
| 00:54.58 | Seb | caphuso: gee, that worked |
| 00:55.00 | deepfrze | TheHighlander, do you have a screen section in your XF86Config-4 file? |
| 00:55.01 | Seb | caphuso: thx a lot, man |
| 00:55.13 | ningo | dpkg, blootbot |
| 00:55.13 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, blootbot is a severely modified infobot (right now, the code doesn't even look like infobot any more), by xk. Homepage at http://blootbot.sourceforge.net. Archive is at http://www.nyip.net/~apt/blootbot. See blootbot debs now in debian, or if you didn't already know this you probably don't want to run a blootbot unless you're very good with perl |
| 00:55.34 | caphuso | Seb: complain to the morons that waste their time programming mozilla and friends |
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| 00:56.00 | ningo | dpkg, blootbot-cli |
| 00:56.00 | dpkg | ningo: wish i knew |
| 00:56.03 | thomas_adam | ningo: /msg dpkg |
| 00:56.14 | ningo | ah |
| 00:56.40 | thomas_adam | sgeigerbot: We've been here before. |
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| 00:57.30 | g8c | Out of interest, any know if any of the newer enlightenment stuff is being packaged for debian? |
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| 00:57.44 | Seb | caphuso: heh, what do *you* use as a browser if you don't like mozilla and friends ? |
| 00:57.46 | thomas_adam | Let's hope not. |
| 00:57.52 | caphuso | Seb: mostly lynx |
| 00:57.53 | thomas_adam | Seb: elinks. |
| 00:58.11 | yarjar | <3 elinks |
| 00:58.19 | BlackJudas`Ballz | Indoobidably. |
| 00:58.25 | sgeigerbot | thomas_adam: Ah! that module is for apache2! |
| 00:58.48 | rares000 | what's the name of the characteristic Mac font |
| 00:58.57 | rares000 | use everywhere |
| 00:59.01 | rares000 | er used |
| 00:59.07 | nailbiter | rares000: geneva? |
| 00:59.23 | rares000 | that might be the one |
| 00:59.27 | marmot | What is the curses gui tool to create your XF86Config outside of Xwin rather than having to use xf86config ? |
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| 00:59.39 | novice | nailbiter: |
| 00:59.44 | nailbiter | rares000: or chicago, perhaps. |
| 00:59.57 | caphuso | marmot: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
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| 01:00.05 | marmot | thats it thx |
| 01:00.12 | nailbiter | novice: did you manage to boot solaris? |
| 01:00.27 | novice | nailbiter: i could mount the partition and find the file responsible by the solaris boot. |
| 01:00.48 | novice | nailbiter: not yet...was reading some howtos... :-P |
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| 01:02.38 | novice | nailbiter: no...i didn't. when i did that change, the error: "invalid or unsupported exectuable format" came up my screen. |
| 01:02.39 | nailbiter | novice: oh well. you could drop into #solaris and see that they can tell you. :) |
| 01:03.06 | nailbiter | novice: that shouldn't show up unless you're using the 'kernel' command with something that's not a kernel image .. |
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| 01:04.08 | Kerr | how would i, as root; change a user's password ? |
| 01:04.29 | BlackJudas`Ballz | passwd username |
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| 01:05.33 | novice | nailbiter: i'm droping #solaris and see if they can help me there. |
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| 01:06.18 | nvz | -th2-5f-81-56-197-247.adsl.proxad.net] has |
| 01:06.18 | nvz | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:06.48 | SexyKen | why would I get this from a file I won with execution permissions: Can't load modules irc: /gljail/glftpd/sitebot/modules/irc.so: cannot open shared object file: Permission denied |
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| 01:07.37 | g4lt | so how'd you win it? |
| 01:08.50 | BlackJudas`Ballz | Apparently Ken's Sexy. |
| 01:09.24 | ugly | SexyKen: might be better to ask in #glhelp on EFNet - glftpd questions may get you flamed here |
| 01:09.27 | vitriol | a sexy contest to win a file? |
| 01:09.45 | SexyKen | oh okay |
| 01:09.46 | SexyKen | Thanks |
| 01:09.58 | vitriol | mmmmmm flame |
| 01:10.00 | SexyKen | Know of an efnet server off the top of your head? |
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| 01:10.15 | ugly | SexyKen: irc.easynews.com |
| 01:10.34 | vitriol | why don't you connect from irc.efnet.net |
| 01:10.40 | vitriol | any particlular reason? |
| 01:10.53 | ugly | real men don't use roundrobins |
| 01:11.01 | vitriol | aw poo |
| 01:11.10 | g4lt | irc.prison.net |
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| 01:11.12 | vitriol | how do you know if someone uses a roundrobin anyways |
| 01:14.22 | beowu1f | can anyone correct me if i'm wrong in stating that IP FORWARDING is a method by which data is transfered from peer A to peer D regardless of how it passes through B & C...? |
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| 01:16.15 | Xenguy | damn - called my bluff he did |
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| 01:16.22 | Xenguy | wrong frickin window |
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| 01:17.42 | buht | hey guys, i just did a clean load of testing on 2.4.27 after a netinst. every time X starts and kde 3.2 loads, the sedons kde gets to 100% loaded and the panel on the bottom begins to appear the main console is completely froze, the only thing i can do is ssh in or reboot, any ideas? |
| 01:18.45 | Hass | use gnome... just joking |
| 01:19.00 | buht | id try gnome, and its loaded, dunno wtf to disable kde and tell it to run gnome |
| 01:19.09 | buht | i know gnome better actually, but kde was loaded by the netinst |
| 01:20.06 | Hass | disable kde and run gnome? are we talking about kdm or kde? |
| 01:20.14 | Xenguy | It does actually make sense, but it is convoluted |
| 01:20.37 | buht | hass, kde |
| 01:20.57 | buht | it says kde 3.2 and freezes at 100% , ive never used kde, only gnome |
| 01:21.26 | marmot | does debian have /etc/sysconfig/desktop to set kde/gnome preference? |
| 01:21.38 | marmot | cant recall where it gets set |
| 01:22.25 | Hass | buht: if you use gdm or kdm you can select gnome |
| 01:22.38 | buht | hass, whatever its doing is auto logging in when i startx |
| 01:23.00 | nvz | -th2-5f-81-56-197-247.adsl.proxad.net] has |
| 01:23.00 | nvz | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:23.01 | nvz | -th2-5f-81-56-197-247.adsl.proxad.net] has |
| 01:23.02 | nvz | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:23.09 | marmot | buht, so your running startx and not using a dm to login? |
| 01:23.16 | buht | ah, just ran gdm seperately |
| 01:23.18 | Hass | startx login directly to X |
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| 01:23.27 | Hass | just run /etc/init.d/gdm start |
| 01:23.29 | Hass | or kdm |
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| 01:23.40 | buht | ok gdm runs well :) now trying the login again |
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| 01:23.49 | marmot | or create ~/.xinitrc to specify what startx should load |
| 01:23.53 | mdfive | somebody know how to enable special character ( like éèà ) with php/freetype ? (know I'm not in php but there are a big conversation and no one answer) |
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| 01:24.04 | buht | kde locked :) , so i can switch to gnome in gdm? |
| 01:24.13 | nvz | anyone know how if I can setup irssi to confirm all pastes so I dont accidentally do that again? |
| 01:24.26 | marmot | buht, should be in the menu to specify yeah |
| 01:24.39 | nvz | it already has that confirm, but it seems to be on a high number.. like more than 4 |
| 01:24.43 | buht | sweet, :) trying gnome now |
| 01:24.55 | buht | i wouldnt mind tryign kde though, too bad its locking |
| 01:25.06 | buht | yep gnome is fine |
| 01:25.21 | buht | thx guys |
| 01:25.22 | marmot | most gnome people dislike kde and vice versa |
| 01:25.23 | nvz | I'd prefer anything with a newline should have to press CTRL+K |
| 01:25.26 | cafuego | nvz: /set flood_max_msgs ? |
| 01:25.40 | BlackJudas`Ballz | Though kde has hotter apps, I prefer gnome. |
| 01:25.42 | cafuego | nvz: otherweise you're going to have to script soemthing |
| 01:25.45 | BlackJudas`Ballz | TVM!!!!1 |
| 01:25.49 | BlackJudas`Ballz | err TWM* |
| 01:25.55 | zruty | BlackJudas`Ballz: why is that, just curious? |
| 01:26.12 | buht | now if i can just find out why kde freezes and gnome doesnt :) |
| 01:26.20 | cafuego | zruty: More oils and some magnesium, they burn hotter. |
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| 01:26.21 | idnar | cafuego, nvz: paste_detect_time and paste_verify_line_count |
| 01:26.22 | satHan | buht: what kind of freeze? |
| 01:26.23 | nvz | buht | thx guys |
| 01:26.23 | nvz | 17:49:08 marmot | most gnome people dislike kde and vice versa |
| 01:26.24 | nvz | 17:49:09 nvz | I'd prefer anything with a newline should have to press CTRL+K |
| 01:26.26 | nvz | 17:49:12 cafuego | nvz: /set flood_max_msgs ? |
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| 01:26.29 | Nurbs | gnome might not freeze because it crashes before it can? *cough* |
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| 01:26.43 | satHan | buht: I've been hacing an error where the keyboard stops responding and i cant click any of the windows closed |
| 01:26.45 | cafuego | nvz: Hint: test in #flood |
| 01:26.48 | satHan | buht: that it? |
| 01:26.49 | nvz | oh well, I'll quit doing that, but that didnt work |
| 01:26.49 | buht | satHan: it says kde 100% loaded, the panel on the bottom starts to appear but locks and freezes the console completely |
| 01:27.04 | idnar | nvz: try setting paste_verify_line_count to 1 |
| 01:27.08 | BlackJudas`Ballz | Heh FLAME WAR!! |
| 01:27.26 | Nurbs | not really |
| 01:27.28 | zruty | !start a de war |
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| 01:27.31 | cafuego | idnar: That's only in irssi-snapshot, I think. |
| 01:27.40 | zruty | hm is it case sensitive? |
| 01:27.42 | buht | Nurbs: u a kde person? |
| 01:27.43 | idnar | -!- Irssi: Client: irssi 0.8.9 (20031210 2316) |
| 01:27.46 | cafuego | idnar: Mine doesn't know thats etting. |
| 01:27.48 | idnar | cafuego: irssi-snapshot is way out of date |
| 01:27.48 | zruty | !start a DE war |
| 01:27.50 | zeo33x | how can i make multiple custom kernel with the same kernel source? |
| 01:27.55 | nvz | idnar: yeah thats the one |
| 01:28.06 | idnar | cafuego: in sid, anyway |
| 01:28.14 | Nurbs | buht: uh, I currently try 3.3, but I'm not really much of any $FOO person |
| 01:28.20 | nvz | idnar: why whats it up to now? |
| 01:28.34 | buht | Nurbs: ah, was gonna ask you to help me figure out my kde freeze, from that gnome statement :) |
| 01:28.34 | idnar | cafuego, nvz: irssi-snapshot in sid is some 0.8.6-based version, while irssi-text is 0.8.9 |
| 01:28.45 | mdfive | somebody know how to enable special character ( like éèà ) with php/freetype ? (know I'm not in php but there are a big conversation and no one answer) |
| 01:28.59 | nvz | idnar: yeah I thought 0.8.9 was current. |
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| 01:29.22 | Hass | [CTCP] Se ha recibido una petición de versión de nvz al canal #debian |
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| 01:29.43 | g4lt | nvz fool |
| 01:29.51 | idnar | hahaha |
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| 01:29.58 | Cosmo` | hey guys, i've got a bit of a problem |
| 01:30.04 | zruty | it's the amazing rubber nvz |
| 01:30.12 | Cosmo` | when i use shutdown -h now ... it gets to "Power Off" then does nothing ... |
| 01:30.14 | g4lt | nvz flood yourself off? |
| 01:30.15 | novice | my gnome is crashing when i login. i have no idea about what's happening. can somebody help me? |
| 01:30.15 | idnar | nvz: 680 CTCP VERSION replies a bit more than you bargained for? |
| 01:30.17 | nvz | is anyone here dumber than I am right now? |
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| 01:30.22 | BlackJudas`Ballz | Cosmo`: that's normal. |
| 01:30.23 | nvz | g4lt: I quit hoping it would help |
| 01:30.26 | cafuego | nvz: only sgeigerbot |
| 01:30.32 | scarynetworkguy | nvz: please don't do that |
| 01:30.34 | BlackJudas`Ballz | Cosmo`: you don't have power management enabled. |
| 01:30.41 | Hass | Cosmo`: maybe you have a problem with ACPI/APM |
| 01:30.51 | zruty | novice: getting any messages? |
| 01:30.53 | g4lt | scarynetworkguy we have to have SOMEONE to laugh at... ;) |
| 01:30.55 | Nurbs | buht: gnome died once again, breaking its configs, like 5 minutes ago. KDE breaks a whole lot of other stuff. I'll probably end up with ion3 or such, but it still leaves me with a number of KDE and Gnome apps that do of course want their KDE/Gnome components working well *sigh* |
| 01:31.08 | scarynetworkguy | g4lt: ok I'll buy that as a reason :) |
| 01:31.24 | novice | zruty: nope. |
| 01:31.33 | zruty | i should probably just move to a plain ol wm too |
| 01:31.35 | nvz | dumb aliases were not meant to be in my config |
| 01:31.41 | nvz | I will type them |
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| 01:31.47 | zruty | kde doesnt seem to like me with a measly 128 meg ram |
| 01:31.47 | Cosmo` | BlackJudas`Ballz - someone else suggest that, is this a bios thing or something within Debian ? |
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| 01:32.00 | daedx | I want to print on a distant printer on a Windows machine |
| 01:32.00 | daedx | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:32.00 | daedx | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:32.09 | daedx | fuck |
| 01:32.10 | BlackJudas`Ballz | Cosmo`: could be either. |
| 01:32.11 | daedx | sorry |
| 01:32.19 | SerajewelKS | does anyone know of a GPG text editor? i.e. it reads a GPG/PGP encrypted file, lets you edit it, and re-encrypts it when you save |
| 01:32.27 | Cosmo` | BlackJudas`Ballz - well i believe i have it sorted in bios, as it worked ok in RedHat |
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| 01:32.42 | zruty | hm, emacs has crypt support out of the box more or less |
| 01:32.45 | novice | zruty: any idea? |
| 01:32.59 | zruty | novice: not if you get no error messages |
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| 01:33.21 | SerajewelKS | zruty: i'm a vim person myself... (and let's not start a war about this) |
| 01:33.35 | zruty | SerajewelKS: no doubt vim supports it as well |
| 01:33.37 | BlackJudas`Ballz | Cosmo`: you must make sure you have PM enabled in your kernel. There are also modules you can load to enable the PM functions. ACPI is built-in though, so you may check that. |
| 01:33.39 | zruty | !start an editor war |
| 01:33.39 | dpkg | vim blows |
| 01:33.43 | zruty | MUAHA |
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| 01:33.58 | Cosmo` | BlackJudas`Ballz - how exactly do i do this ? (sorry newish to this) |
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| 01:34.06 | SerajewelKS | VIM rocks! VIM is cooler than emacs! VIM is... what? Yeah, I'm done. |
| 01:34.09 | rich_ | hahahaha like 'cat beats everything but I dont want to start an arguement about it' :) |
| 01:34.19 | nvz | yeah vim does blow |
| 01:34.33 | zruty | real programmers use the console switches |
| 01:34.40 | BlackJudas`Ballz | nvz: pardon? |
| 01:34.44 | novice | zruty: i stopped the gdm and tried using startx. but the screen is frozen anyway... |
| 01:34.54 | BlackJudas`Ballz | nvz: Nano rox!!!111 |
| 01:34.57 | g4lt | SerajewelKS vim.org might have a script to make vim into your gpg editor.... |
| 01:34.59 | Guerin | fuck, my sarge box just keeps rebooting when trying to do certain tasks |
| 01:35.14 | SerajewelKS | Guerin: my woody box keeps locking up |
| 01:35.19 | g4lt | Guerin don't do them, DUH |
| 01:35.26 | SerajewelKS | unless i'm playing something with XMMs |
| 01:35.27 | jharrison | bahamas is on weather channel |
| 01:35.29 | jharrison | :) |
| 01:35.31 | nvz | to me vi and it variants are like playing a game of minesweeper on the keyboard while trying to edit a file, I dont know when I am going to hit a mine key and switch into trippin mode, where it starts backspacing and indenting with letters and shit |
| 01:35.36 | Bols | SerajewelKS: are you talking about this? http://www.idroplast.com/vim.jpg =) |
| 01:35.46 | Guerin | g4lt: but I WANT to take screenshots and save them to a network drive! |
| 01:35.47 | SerajewelKS | solution: keep playing XMMS and turn the speakers off when i don't want to hear music |
| 01:36.03 | BlackJudas`Ballz | nvz: MS Edit. |
| 01:36.29 | Guerin | SerajewelKS: just make a 1 second long track os silence, and loop it :P |
| 01:36.42 | g4lt | Guerin take remote screenshots from the other computer ;P |
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| 01:36.55 | novice | nailbiter: one guy of #solaris has basically the same configuration of my menu.lst except that he doesn't have the makeactive. what do u think about? |
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| 01:37.10 | catf00d | I've installed Debian, but now I need some sources I guess |
| 01:37.13 | Guerin | g4lt: strange as it may seem, I'd rather find and fix the problem :P |
| 01:37.17 | catf00d | What sources should I choose? |
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| 01:37.26 | Guerin | catf00d: the ones in apt-setup |
| 01:37.38 | Guerin | catf00d: I hear they're real tasty this time of year |
| 01:37.45 | nvz | BlackJudas`Ballz: minimum profit editor is what I use, it detects and highlights for shell, man, perl, c/c++, html, xml.. and has some basic emacs like commands, Ctrl+Y for yank and its pretty straight forward |
| 01:37.57 | cafuego | catf00d: You should have a sources.list already. if not, run 'apt-setup' adn add some (relatively) local mirrors. |
| 01:37.58 | catf00d | Everything works basically, well GTK and QT apps take FOREVER to load in Blackbox, even on my pretty fast machine, umm, xmms doesn't work (But that's probably because I have the unstable version) |
| 01:38.01 | SerajewelKS | thanks to my ISP's DNS server trouble, vim.org doesn't resolve |
| 01:38.08 | SerajewelKS | ah there we go |
| 01:38.17 | vitriol | dns is overrated |
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| 01:38.19 | scarynetworkguy | Guerin: yup but in a couple of months they start to molt and you want to be careful then |
| 01:38.24 | vitriol | :P |
| 01:38.37 | zruty | i used modal editors on primos that were better than vi about the mode you were in |
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| 01:38.47 | catf00d | Ok I'm doing apt-setup right now :) |
| 01:38.49 | cafuego | SerajewelKS: it's a sourceforge alias, blame them instead. |
| 01:38.51 | zruty | first off, none of that insert/append dichotomy |
| 01:39.01 | scarynetworkguy | SerajewelKS: 66.35.250.210 |
| 01:39.03 | zruty | and the mode switch key was a ctrl key to toggle the modes |
| 01:39.07 | catf00d | Without you guy's help I'd probably still be using my old distro :) |
| 01:39.19 | SerajewelKS | cafuego: my ISP's servers have been freaking out lately |
| 01:39.22 | catf00d | Does anyone know why GTK and QT apps take so long to load up in Blackbox though? |
| 01:39.24 | kick] | hi, everybody |
| 01:39.25 | SerajewelKS | sometimes not even resolving google.com |
| 01:39.34 | cafuego | SerajewelKS: You can always add others |
| 01:39.39 | zeo33x | how come make-kpkg clean doesnt clean out the config file? |
| 01:39.43 | Guerin | Sep 1 10:41:13 pigeonbox syslogd 1.4.1#10: restart. |
| 01:39.46 | zeo33x | how do i start fresh? |
| 01:39.46 | scarynetworkguy | SerajewelKS: do what reall men do and just memorize IPs |
| 01:39.47 | Guerin | that's informative |
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| 01:40.03 | SerajewelKS | here it is |
| 01:40.04 | SerajewelKS | http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=661 |
| 01:40.11 | zruty | catf00d: probably because gtk and qt aren't preloaded like they are when you're running a DE based on those toolkits |
| 01:40.12 | catf00d | scarynetworkguy: haha |
| 01:40.17 | BigNate | anyone know what happened to the php4 packages in sarge today? (they appear to be completely missing the apache 1.3 module) |
| 01:40.20 | zruty | catf00d: should only affect the first run tho |
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| 01:40.24 | Guerin | catf00d: because they have to lead shitloads of libs so you can see all the pretty shiny things |
| 01:40.26 | cafuego | zeo33x: Coz generally one wants to keep the config file. You can always rm .config by hand. |
| 01:40.29 | scarynetworkguy | catf00d: did I make a joke? |
| 01:40.46 | kick] | ll |
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| 01:40.47 | zeo33x | cafuego: i did do that... however make menuconfig is still getting my old settings for some reason |
| 01:40.49 | catf00d | scarynetworkguy: "Do what real men do and memorize ips" |
| 01:41.08 | scarynetworkguy | catf00d: yeah..... I don't get why you think that's funny... |
| 01:41.09 | nvz | scarynetworkguy: yeah I used to do it that way, when I had At&t their dns went out alot, so that was the only way to survive, was to remember ips |
| 01:41.15 | catf00d | zruty: Well..it takes like 3 minutes to load, and even on the second time, It still takes a very long time |
| 01:41.18 | cafuego | zeo33x: delete .config.precious too |
| 01:41.33 | catf00d | scarynetworkguy: I dunno :/ |
| 01:41.35 | zruty | catf00d: i cant imagine that's specific to blackbox |
| 01:41.40 | scarynetworkguy | nvz: of course dns is for wimps |
| 01:41.42 | catf00d | scarynetworkguy: Nevermind me :[ |
| 01:41.43 | zeo33x | cafuego: oh |
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| 01:42.06 | scarynetworkguy | catf00d: yeah DNS is for wimps and lightweights. :) |
| 01:42.07 | catf00d | zruty: Well it's not, I tried it without running a window manager, same thing |
| 01:42.17 | catf00d | zruty: I just don't understand why it takes soooo pathetically long |
| 01:42.28 | zruty | catf00d: what kind of machine you got? ram, cpu? |
| 01:42.31 | zeo33x | cafuego: i dont even have that file :/ |
| 01:42.39 | MrKeuner | hi there, F2 does not work on Files on Desktop. Is this a bug or is it intensional? |
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| 01:42.48 | catf00d | zruty: 2.7Ghz Celeron, 512Mb ram |
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| 01:42.54 | cafuego | zeo33x: it might be picking up /boot/config-$(uname -r) then |
| 01:42.57 | BlackJudas`Ballz | scarynetworkguy is .... scary. |
| 01:43.02 | BlackJudas`Ballz | Though he promised me pics. |
| 01:43.06 | zeo33x | cafuego: ohh |
| 01:43.08 | BlackJudas`Ballz | To back it up. |
| 01:43.13 | zruty | catf00d: runs circles around my bitty little box. sounds like you got something running that's interfering |
| 01:43.18 | Guerin | MrKeuner: wtf is f2 supposed to do, what desktop, any other information you'd like to withhold? |
| 01:43.25 | nvz | scarynetworkguy: yeah its for lame assed yanky wimps |
| 01:43.38 | nvz | scarynetworkguy: we cant even spell DNS in texas |
| 01:43.42 | zruty | i got a p3 600 with 128 megs ram and most qt and gtk apps start in a couple seconds |
| 01:43.45 | MrKeuner | hmm yeah f2 does rename on nautilus sorry |
| 01:43.45 | scarynetworkguy | BlackJudas`Ballz: http://wwww.scarynetworkguy.net/bofh.html |
| 01:43.49 | scarynetworkguy | nvz: heh |
| 01:44.03 | catf00d | zruty: Hmm, I wonder what it would be that affects both GTK and QT... Hmm |
| 01:44.03 | cafuego | catf00d: Is your IDE driver running in DMA mode? |
| 01:44.12 | zruty | it wouldnt be DMA |
| 01:44.19 | zruty | difference isnt that dramatic |
| 01:44.25 | catf00d | cafuego: Well I checked that, but I don't have 'hdparm' apparently |
| 01:44.27 | cafuego | zruty: if big things load slowly, it may well be. |
| 01:44.27 | SerajewelKS | zruty: hell yeah it is |
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| 01:44.35 | zruty | probably a sound mixer or something |
| 01:44.39 | cafuego | catf00d: apt-get install hdparm will fix that in seconds. |
| 01:44.44 | SerajewelKS | my MP3s skip and pop unless i have DMA on |
| 01:44.44 | zruty | some kind of realtime process |
| 01:44.50 | catf00d | zruty: That's what I was thinking |
| 01:45.00 | nvz | SerajewelKS: really? |
| 01:45.03 | faw | how can I allow a user to have ssh access but no mail? |
| 01:45.05 | SerajewelKS | nvz: yes |
| 01:45.09 | catf00d | cafuego: Well for me, I'm on dialup, so it might be a little more then a few seconds ;) |
| 01:45.14 | zruty | faw: don't create a mail alias |
| 01:45.18 | SerajewelKS | and the hard drive is very recent, 80gb western digital |
| 01:45.21 | cafuego | faw: Tell the MTA to dump their email in /dev/null |
| 01:45.27 | nvz | nope dma is on |
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| 01:45.36 | faw | cafuego, ok, that's good! :) |
| 01:45.38 | nvz | mines a WD 120, I got for $30 |
| 01:45.38 | cafuego | catf00d: No, it's an 85Kb package or somesuch, seconds, realy ;-) |
| 01:45.41 | faw | zruty, how? |
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| 01:45.58 | faw | zruty, if I use /bin/bash it has ssh and mail... |
| 01:46.03 | catf00d | cafuego: Ah, good :) |
| 01:46.07 | scarynetworkguy | faw: a 1 meter piece of rebar to the head when they try to send mail. They'll get the idea soon enough |
| 01:46.07 | gnome2 | hola |
| 01:46.08 | zeo33x | cafuego: do you know of a way to make multiple kernel images from the same source? |
| 01:46.09 | faw | zruty, using /bin/true it has just ftp |
| 01:46.12 | cafuego | !info hdparm sid |
| 01:46.14 | BlackJudas`Ballz | scarynetworkguy: eh... dude you're one ugly mofo. |
| 01:46.16 | dpkg | hdparm: (Tune hard disk parameters for high performance), section admin, is optional. Version: 5.6-0.1 (sid), Packaged size: 45 kB, Installed size: 180 kB |
| 01:46.17 | zruty | faw: dunno these newfangled mail servers, i would normally just edit /var/mail/aliases |
| 01:46.18 | gnome2 | hay alguien |
| 01:46.25 | cafuego | catf00d: 45Kb even |
| 01:46.26 | faw | scarynetworkguy, hahaha ok... :) |
| 01:46.30 | gnome2 | h |
| 01:46.31 | scarynetworkguy | BlackJudas`Ballz: thanks |
| 01:46.35 | zeo33x | cafuego: i guess just keep the config file, but can i just have multiple branch or something? |
| 01:46.39 | zeo33x | from the same kernel source |
| 01:46.39 | BlackJudas`Ballz | :P |
| 01:46.56 | faw | zruty, sorry, don't get your idea... put an alias to nothing? |
| 01:46.56 | gnome2 | hola from de argentina |
| 01:46.57 | beowu1f | debian: 'ip forwarding' is a means by which a firewall can automatically route a "recognised" ip address[probably inside a ip table listing of known addresses] to the correct clients the firewall is serving.. |
| 01:47.01 | cafuego | zeo33x: Yes, if you add --append-to-blahwhatever in make-kpkg |
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| 01:47.09 | Guerin | if I run strace iver a program, and it reboots, is the strace output likely to survive? |
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| 01:47.37 | zruty | faw: well in the olden days, if you took the name out of aliases, the mailbox basically didn't exist |
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| 01:47.43 | zruty | still that way for sendmail i would imagine |
| 01:47.46 | rooti | hi! anyone running debian x86-64? |
| 01:47.56 | zruty | i dunno how to configure exim. used to know a bit of postfix |
| 01:47.58 | zeo33x | cafuego: oh i see :) |
| 01:47.59 | MrKeuner | it is a bug I guess |
| 01:48.13 | catf00d | zruty: Well I'm going to try to see if I have DMA enabled, but do you have any other suggestions for how I might go about fixing this, if that doesn't work? |
| 01:48.23 | scarynetworkguy | Guerin: I don't know jack about strace so this is just a guess but maybe if you pipe it into a file? |
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| 01:48.34 | zruty | catf00d: check top, see if anything's sucking up lots of CPU or is running at nice -20 |
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| 01:49.00 | zruty | catf00d: see if you're thrashing RAM when you start up the gtk app, maybe you have a bad theme |
| 01:49.17 | faw | zruty, not anymore |
| 01:49.23 | Guerin | scarynetworkguy: yeah, that's what I would do, but the thing is that this command causes my system to reboot, instantly. |
| 01:49.23 | zruty | beyond that i'd probably just run the app under strace and see if it's looping on something |
| 01:49.25 | faw | zruty, if the user has a valid shell account |
| 01:49.33 | catf00d | zruty: Well it's the standard theme |
| 01:49.34 | nvz | I was just using strace last nite.. best thing it to use the -e expression |
| 01:49.37 | scarynetworkguy | Guerin: ouchies :| |
| 01:49.39 | faw | zruty, he could receive mails... |
| 01:49.41 | Guerin | scarynetworkguy: I'm wondering whether the filesystem will even have time to write it out |
| 01:49.46 | faw | cafuego, your idea is good... |
| 01:49.54 | scarynetworkguy | Guerin: yeah that would seem to be an issue |
| 01:49.56 | faw | cafuego, but the account is still there... |
| 01:50.04 | nvz | its not an easy command to work with from what I can see |
| 01:50.09 | zruty | i used to do OS support at sun, someone complained about performance problems or crashes, i would just run the same process under truss |
| 01:50.10 | rares000 | update-alternatives: unable to make /usr/lib/mozilla-cvs/plugins/javaplugin_oji.so.dpkg-tmp a symlink to /etc/alternatives/javaplugin_oji-mozilla-cvs.so: No such file or directory |
| 01:50.15 | faw | cafuego, bandwidth, time |
| 01:50.21 | rares000 | what's up with that? |
| 01:50.23 | zruty | truss would tell me real quick where the problem was a lot of the time |
| 01:50.40 | Guerin | scarynetworkguy: I might try to pipe it out to a nother file on an nfs share - but the problem seems connected to the network somehow, so I'm not sure that'll work either |
| 01:50.48 | nvz | I used it to make a log for a network process that didnt keep a log |
| 01:50.49 | zruty | truss == sysv name for strace |
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| 01:51.02 | catf00d | Hmmm gaim loads up fast |
| 01:51.10 | zruty | now solaris has dprobes. is like truss on steroids |
| 01:51.17 | zruty | catf00d: maybe it's just your app |
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| 01:51.33 | sgeigerbot | cafuego: Are you sure you don't have a virus? Perhaps you should try rebooting, reinstalling, doing the hokey-pokey and turn yoruself about.... There's always RedHat (rpm -iVh AOL.rpm). |
| 01:51.43 | nvz | zruty: sounds like you have alot of stories about times on the sun :) |
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| 01:51.45 | catf00d | Epiphany loads up fast too |
| 01:51.53 | zruty | i got out of sun before they tanked |
| 01:52.00 | catf00d | sgeigerbot: =O |
| 01:53.01 | scarynetworkguy | Guerin: yeah if it's network related and you're booting that fast odds are it would get lost |
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| 01:54.03 | nvz | sgeigerbot: I think whatever it was I wasnt paying attention to, you are more than just a few hokey-pokey's away from knowing what it |
| 01:54.06 | nvz | 's all about |
| 01:54.12 | xaero | anyone know if there are common problems getting ptlink services to work on sarge |
| 01:54.23 | BlackJudas`Ballz | What's that? |
| 01:54.24 | BlackJudas`Ballz | :P |
| 01:54.40 | xaero | both ircd and ptlink services say they are on but servics do not respond |
| 01:54.50 | xaero | its like a nickserver and chanserver |
| 01:55.02 | BlackJudas`Ballz | :o Hawt. |
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| 01:56.18 | sgeigerbot | !qotd 5 |
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| 01:56.29 | sgeigerbot | !+qotd 5 |
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| 01:56.51 | Guerin | sgeigerbot: no space |
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| 01:57.14 | Guerin | crap and damn |
| 01:57.26 | StormShaman | I just installed debian using the debian-installer sarge RC1 CD, and i'm reading the manual online, and it says under aptitude i should see tasks such as "desktop environment" or "web server" etc., but I only see various servers as choices (web, mail, SQL, others) |
| 01:57.32 | StormShaman | what should i do? |
| 01:57.33 | Guerin | it reboots before outputting anything useful over strace, and before taking the screenshot |
| 01:58.02 | Xira | :/ |
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| 01:58.05 | mentor | woosh |
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| 01:58.15 | rich_ | thanks everyone |
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| 01:58.36 | StormShaman | when i say `what should I do' i mean how do i install a desktop environment? |
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| 01:58.44 | MattS | is there a version of debian designed for clustering? |
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| 01:58.58 | mentor | stone-head: tasksel? |
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| 01:59.10 | mentor | MattS: There used to be a beowulf project on the ports page iirc. |
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| 01:59.19 | MattS | mentor, k i'll check it out |
| 01:59.21 | Cyis | anyone have any experience with both PPPoE and IP bridging? |
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| 02:00.11 | mentor | ~tell cyis about ask |
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| 02:00.54 | Cyis | need to figure out if it's plausible to bridge eth0 to ppp0.. but ppp0 is going to be assign'd an IP via PPPoE... previous experience with bridging was assigning the IP to br0 not ppp0 or eth0 |
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| 02:01.08 | siimo | hi anyone here use sftp ? how do i copy a remote directory to local path ? |
| 02:01.38 | cafuego | siimo: scp -r user@host:dir . |
| 02:01.41 | Cyis | siimo: I use the -rp option to scp |
| 02:01.57 | siimo | ok thanks |
| 02:02.07 | mentor | Cyis: Well, you'd need your own public IPs and a routing setup on your ppp connection...which I've never heard of... |
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| 02:02.47 | Cyis | mentor: I have a /28 subnet being routed in ... one of the IPs from that subnet is assigned to ppp0 |
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| 02:02.57 | mentor | ohok. |
| 02:03.04 | catf00d | !dpkg mplayer |
| 02:03.04 | dpkg | from memory, mplayer is at http://www.mplayerhq.hu/ , or for debian packages, see http://hpisi.nerim.net/, or the url for debian packages moved to ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/; as for why mplayer isn't in debian, ask me about <mplayer license> |
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| 02:03.19 | cef_work | on sarge, where is the best place to put directories containing the files for virtual hosts for apache2? under /var/www/something or /srv/something ?? |
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| 02:03.42 | peterS | cef_work: as far as I'm concerned, it's strictly a matter of taste |
| 02:03.46 | catf00d | How would I downgrade a package? |
| 02:03.54 | catf00d | I think I have the unstable version of xmms |
| 02:03.57 | catf00d | and I want the testing |
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| 02:04.01 | Cyis | mentor: problem is I just upgraded from a /29 to a /28 and in doing so they converted my configuration from being a WAN/LAN (sep /30 for WAN and /29 for LAN) to using PPPoE and assigning the LAN block to the ppp0 interface... now have to figure out how to redesign the firewall |
| 02:04.07 | peterS | cef_work: vhosts are not set up by default anyway, so it's not like you'd have to override some existing preference between the two directories |
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| 02:04.34 | Guerin | cef_work: I'd put them all in /etc/apache/ |
| 02:04.35 | siimo | Cyis, do i first need to make a local dir? |
| 02:04.36 | Cyis | mentor: previously eth0 was the public LAN IP subnet, eth1 was the RFC1918 LAN space and wan0 was the WAN |
| 02:04.43 | siimo | it only copied the contents |
| 02:04.59 | cef_work | peterS: yeah.. I'm starting to think /srv is probably a good move, simply so that config rewrites don't expose the directories under /var/www if someone screws it up in the future |
| 02:05.02 | catf00d | Anyone know how to downgrade? |
| 02:05.11 | Cyis | siimo: If you give 'scp -rp rem_host:rem_dir/ .' it will recursively copy the entire remote directory to the local directory |
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| 02:05.22 | peterS | cef_work: possibly. I don't think they would screw that up, but you never know |
| 02:05.24 | cef_work | Guerin: you put the actual webpages under /etc/apache/ ?? |
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| 02:05.43 | Guerin | catf00d: downgrade is hard. Try doing it manually - purge the package you have, and install the other. |
| 02:05.43 | cef_work | peterS: who is talking about packagers.. I'm more talking about people! |
| 02:05.48 | peterS | cef_work: heh |
| 02:05.49 | siimo | Cyis, but it wont create a local directory and put its contents in it? it wil copy contents to present dir right |
| 02:05.49 | Guerin | cef_work: no, I thought you were talking config files |
| 02:06.07 | catf00d | Guerin: Ok thanks, but how would I install a certain version of the package I want? |
| 02:06.12 | Guerin | cef_work: I put my vhost's files in /home/user/www/ |
| 02:06.13 | Smork | Anybody know how to set up a DHCP connection? I've added "iface eth1 inet dhcp" to /etc/network/interfaces, and I have pump installed, but when the interface comes up, it specifies 192.168.0.1, which ends up being localhost. Is pump serving the DHCP connection instead of acting as a client? |
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| 02:06.26 | catf00d | Guerin: apt-get uninstall xmms and then what do I do to get the testing or stable version of xmms? |
| 02:06.28 | Cyis | siimo: if you give it the remote directory name (not a file within it) with the -r option it should copy the entire remote directory and all files underneath it |
| 02:06.31 | mentor | Cyis: SO, they're not just assigning one IP to the ppp0 interface and using that as a gateway? |
| 02:06.40 | cef_work | peterS: I'm guessing that an upgrade might say that the config is different, and "do you wish to use the maintainers version?" and of cours,e a dumb person will say "yes" without doing a diff. |
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| 02:06.54 | peterS | cef_work: hmmm |
| 02:07.18 | Cyis | mentor: exactly... say I have 10.20.30.64/28 with .64 thru .78 ... they assign .78 to ppp0 and route the other IPs through .78 |
| 02:07.24 | Guerin | cef_work: each user has a login username (say, fred) and a username/group for each site - a user called foo for foo.com, bar for bar.org |
| 02:07.35 | g4lt | cef_work the worst part of that is when there's sort-of a reason to use the new version, like a minor change in the parser |
| 02:07.41 | mentor | Cyis: Well, any particular reason why you need to bridge then? |
| 02:08.00 | nvz | is there an easy way to make irssi scroll text the other direction? |
| 02:08.05 | cef_work | peterS: and since /var/www/ is listed in /etc/apache2/sites-available/default, it could technically be overridden.. hence why i'm leaning towards /srv (FHS directory for 'files you are serving to the network') |
| 02:08.14 | Cyis | mentor: because ppp0 is directly connected but eth0 has my DMZ with the public servers |
| 02:08.40 | peterS | cef_work: sure. it would take a dumb person to assume that the default apache config is going to be appropriate for a live site ... but I guess it doesn't hurt to be cautious |
| 02:08.47 | Cyis | mentor: the only NAT I want is from the LAN on eth1 going out to the internet through ppp0 |
| 02:08.49 | cef_work | g4lt: yeah exactly.. hence my leanings at the moment |
| 02:08.51 | Guerin | wtf, 16 grave bugs on a sarge dist-upgrade |
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| 02:09.09 | Guerin | and this is supposed to go stable in two weeks? |
| 02:09.28 | mentor | Cyis: Yes, can't you route your DMZ directly tho'? |
| 02:09.35 | Cyis | I don't see sarge going stable with ARM if the Qt 3.3.3 issues aren't fix'd ... seems buildd is stuck |
| 02:09.44 | scarynetworkguy | Guerin: don't hold your breath |
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| 02:10.04 | nvz | Guerin: do you go on dalnet? |
| 02:10.08 | Guerin | scarynetworkguy: ah ain't. |
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| 02:10.20 | stew | d-i isn't good to go on all platforms yet either, is it? |
| 02:10.25 | Cyis | mentor: the gateway IP .78 that I would have assigned to eth0 is assigned to ppp0 ... I could assign another of my IP to eth0 but then I'd be wasting another useable IP address |
| 02:10.30 | scarynetworkguy | Guerin: good cause you would turn blue fall over and odds are Bun Bun would try to eat your face |
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| 02:10.47 | mentor | Cyis: OK. |
| 02:11.09 | Cyis | mentor: hence my thought to bridge eth0 and ppp0 but not sure if it's possible using PPPoE |
| 02:11.09 | cef_work | g4lt: well if I put them under /srv, and the default does change somehow, then least they won't be exposed by the default config.. think I'll do that then |
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| 02:11.39 | rares000 | ok so I installed the java from blackdown and firefox still can't acess |
| 02:11.44 | mentor | Cyis: Well, if you are IP bridging, the lower layers hsoulnd't matter. |
| 02:11.47 | rares000 | the plugin |
| 02:11.48 | siimo | Cyis, thanks it worked this time! what if i want to copy local to remote? can i do it with scp too |
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| 02:12.10 | Cyis | siimo: just reverse the order of the src and dst path |
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| 02:12.18 | Guerin | so, what are the other standard ways of finding out what precisely crashes my box, when strace gives no output? |
| 02:12.29 | catf00d | How do I install an older version of a package? |
| 02:12.31 | siimo | Cyis, thanks ! |
| 02:12.42 | Guerin | catf00d: download the .deb and installit with dpkg -i |
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| 02:12.58 | Cyis | mentor: so you think it's safe to have ppp0 assign'd the IP not br0? I've previously bridged say eth0 and eth1 and gave the IP to br0 |
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| 02:13.15 | mentor | Cyis: I'l |
| 02:13.23 | mentor | Cyis: Hmmm, let me just look at a few things.... |
| 02:13.26 | catf00d | Guerin: I feel stupid, but where do I get .deb files? :[ |
| 02:13.41 | Guerin | catf00d: packages.debian.org or snapshot.debian.net |
| 02:13.51 | catf00d | Guerin: Ah ok, thank you very much |
| 02:13.52 | Guerin | !tell catf00d about fundamentals |
| 02:13.54 | samuel | anyone know of a package that provides something like the wikipedia for personal use? |
| 02:14.21 | Guerin | catf00d: those two links in that message from the bot are a great starting point for learning about this funky old OS |
| 02:14.33 | Guerin | samuel: a wiki, or an encyclopedia? |
| 02:14.57 | samuel | Guerin: wiki, and now that you mention it, is there an encyclopedia please? |
| 02:14.58 | Guerin | rodmir: no, I will not give you shell |
| 02:15.13 | Guerin | rodmir: and don't message me |
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| 02:15.31 | rodmir | guerin: ok. |
| 02:15.59 | Guerin | samuel: there are lots of wiki suites in debian and elsewhere, and since all wikipedia is under the GFDL, you can download it and use it yourself |
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| 02:16.20 | samuel | Guerin, ive got moin, but im on windows and id like to download a few of them before i get back to linux, since im using AOL.... |
| 02:16.26 | Guerin | samuel: but I wouldn't recommend that iunless you have massive amounts of HDD and a lot of time on your hands |
| 02:16.31 | samuel | Guerin: please dont kill me.... |
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| 02:16.50 | Guerin | samuel: is there not a linux dialer for aol? |
| 02:16.54 | samuel | Guerin: hahaha, ok.... |
| 02:17.14 | samuel | Guerin: is there? thanks, ill look... i just assumed.... |
| 02:17.18 | mentor | There is a Linux dialer for AOL, isn't there? |
| 02:17.29 | Guerin | samuel: I don;t know, but I have heard tell of such secrets |
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| 02:17.44 | mentor | penggy... |
| 02:17.58 | samuel | PengAOL |
| 02:18.07 | samuel | or penggy? |
| 02:18.16 | g4lt | pengpong |
| 02:18.40 | samuel | here, in case anyone is interested.... http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialAOL.html |
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| 02:20.11 | g4lt | did you hear, they're coming out with AOL9.0 for Linux? |
| 02:20.13 | samuel | linux and aol |
| 02:20.22 | Phated | Bastards. |
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| 02:20.39 | Phated | Hahahaha. |
| 02:20.45 | mentor | Cyis: Umm, ok, ethernet bridging won't work. |
| 02:20.56 | DaDeXTeR | err... AOL? |
| 02:21.03 | scarynetworkguy | I just watched you can't blame a guy for that |
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| 02:21.10 | mentor | Cyis: PPPoE will be bridged...but it will be transferring PPP frames not IP packets... |
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| 02:21.53 | skeen | Does anyone know of any free Linux ebooks for download? |
| 02:22.08 | scarynetworkguy | skeen: http://www.tldp.org |
| 02:22.13 | mentor | What do you mean by 'Linux eBook'? |
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| 02:22.43 | Tezkah | books in an electronic format |
| 02:22.44 | Phated | Oooooh, ebooks, where? |
| 02:22.48 | g4lt | skeen quite a few, at oreilly.com |
| 02:22.51 | Tezkah | about leenucks |
| 02:22.58 | Phated | Lie-nucks. |
| 02:23.04 | scarynetworkguy | heh |
| 02:23.08 | mentor | LeeNucks. |
| 02:23.14 | mentor | LeeNus |
| 02:23.17 | g4lt | leenuts |
| 02:23.18 | a1fa | what was that command to see what packages are installed |
| 02:23.22 | DarknessX | Phated: heard of Project Gutenberg? ;-) |
| 02:23.30 | Phated | DarknessX: Screw you. :) |
| 02:23.34 | DarknessX | haha |
| 02:23.34 | skeen | ooh, thanks guys. :) |
| 02:23.39 | mentor | Are those like beer nuts? |
| 02:23.52 | Tezkah | Linus looks HOT in a speedo |
| 02:24.08 | DaDeXTeR | ok |
| 02:24.10 | DarknessX | lmao, Tezkah: have you seen the video with the dunk-tank? |
| 02:24.13 | jharrison | his wife probably thinks so too |
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| 02:24.16 | Tezkah | THERES A VIDEO!? |
| 02:24.22 | DaDeXTeR | that's a mental image I didn't care to have (Linus in a speedo) |
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| 02:24.25 | Tezkah | I only saw the pics on XratedGEEKS.com |
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| 02:24.45 | Phated | Dude, Linus in a speedo... Yummy. |
| 02:24.49 | sgeigerbot | Linux was covered on NPR this week!! You can hear the broadcast here: http://www.npr.org/features/feature.php?wfId=3875409 |
| 02:24.50 | Tezkah | http://www.users.on.net/~hyadsl1/linux/Linus.jpg |
| 02:24.59 | Tezkah | ^^warning |
| 02:25.04 | nvz | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:25.05 | Tezkah | Speedo + Beloved Geek |
| 02:25.06 | DaDeXTeR | one more like that, and I don't know what stupid things I'll start doing |
| 02:25.09 | Cyis | mentor: hmm... then seems I'm relegated to having to move my DMZ to NAT as well on a different RFC1918 block |
| 02:25.09 | a1fa | what was that command to see what packages are installed |
| 02:25.15 | a1fa | sorry |
| 02:25.19 | a1fa | i repeated myself |
| 02:25.29 | a1fa | went to take a piss, forgot if I've submited it or not |
| 02:25.35 | Tezkah | alfa, try "man dpkg", I dont quite know what you mean |
| 02:25.45 | Phated | You guys have no sense of style. Linus + speedo = good. |
| 02:25.47 | mentor | Cyis: Hmm, I think you need to do some jiggery with the PPP connection, I'm still lloking at the exact semantics. |
| 02:25.58 | a1fa | selected debs installed |
| 02:26.01 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: no no it does not |
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| 02:26.06 | Tezkah | isn't NPR librul like... listening to the cure? |
| 02:26.21 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: It so does. |
| 02:26.24 | gaytron | RMS... now there's a man. |
| 02:26.29 | Phated | mentor: I look fair. ;) |
| 02:26.35 | DaDeXTeR | ok that was just disturbing |
| 02:26.50 | mentor | Phated: Well, we cant just take you r word for that... |
| 02:26.53 | mentor | ;) |
| 02:27.02 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: ok I'm no judge of it so I'll take your word for it |
| 02:27.06 | Phated | mentor: ;) |
| 02:27.09 | DaDeXTeR | lol |
| 02:27.11 | g4lt | mentor Angelina Jolie ;) |
| 02:27.17 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Oh come on, you had a picure. ;) |
| 02:27.21 | jharrison | Phated: you home wrecker |
| 02:27.26 | Phated | :D |
| 02:27.29 | mentor | Is she a geek? |
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| 02:27.37 | Phated | mentor: Who me? |
| 02:27.48 | mentor | no, Angelina Jolie. |
| 02:27.51 | Phated | jharrison: Not a home wrecker, just a geek with raging hormones. |
| 02:27.52 | g4lt | mentor she starred in "Hackers", that ought to at least make an Honorary Geek |
| 02:27.54 | Phated | mentor: Heck no. |
| 02:28.00 | jharrison | Phated: you home wrecker |
| 02:28.04 | mentor | Phated: Your on #debian. More than once. Your geekhood is assumed. |
| 02:28.10 | Phated | jharrison: Geek with raging hormones! |
| 02:28.13 | jharrison | Phated: you home wrecker |
| 02:28.15 | Phated | mentor: Oh, true, |
| 02:28.17 | Phated | jharrison: Geek with raging hormones! |
| 02:28.21 | jharrison | hehe |
| 02:28.33 | a1fa | dpkg --get-selections |
| 02:28.33 | dpkg | a1fa: no idea |
| 02:28.55 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: true true |
| 02:29.05 | Phated | :D |
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| 02:29.14 | lavamind | hello |
| 02:29.17 | Phated | jharrison: Geek with raging hormones! |
| 02:29.24 | jharrison | thats not what my text file says |
| 02:29.30 | jharrison | :-P |
| 02:29.35 | Phated | Damn you. |
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| 02:29.38 | Phated | !damn jharrison |
| 02:29.44 | g4lt | mentor there's Jennifer Granick |
| 02:29.47 | jharrison | nah |
| 02:29.49 | jharrison | hell is not for me |
| 02:29.51 | jharrison | thanks anyways though |
| 02:29.54 | a1fa | what does "deinstall" mean? in --gett-selections? |
| 02:29.55 | mentor | Garner? |
| 02:30.00 | Phated | Jenneifer Garner, anyone? |
| 02:30.08 | g4lt | mentor Mitnick's Attorney |
| 02:30.15 | jharrison | well ive got a hurricane tomorrowish |
| 02:30.15 | mentor | ah. |
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| 02:30.18 | gaytron | Phated: i'd like that one. thanks. |
| 02:30.18 | jharrison | got to get some rest |
| 02:30.22 | Phated | gaytron: :P |
| 02:30.24 | R4F | hi |
| 02:30.32 | Phated | jharrison: See ya, good luck, have fun. |
| 02:30.39 | mentor | g4lt: Is that geek by association? |
| 02:30.40 | lavamind | im having some problems with Xfree... when initialised at bootup, fonts on KDE are tiny, but when using startx from a console, KDE loads up with normally sized fonts |
| 02:30.46 | jharrison | Phated: being hit directly by a hurricane is not fun |
| 02:30.53 | jharrison | Phated: thanks anyways though |
| 02:30.54 | zruty | mutineers, betrayers, and Darl McBride |
| 02:30.55 | g4lt | mentor she joined the EFF soon thereafter |
| 02:31.03 | jharrison | I just hope no one dies |
| 02:31.05 | aetas | g4lt: isn't this offtopic, or is it ok when you do it and no one else? |
| 02:31.09 | holycow | zruty, film at 11? |
| 02:31.11 | holycow | XD |
| 02:31.13 | Phated | jharrison: Yeah. Batten down the hatches and make sure your computer's safe... being on IRC while being hit by a hurricane is fun. :) |
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| 02:31.28 | lavamind | could it be that both methods of starting X load up a different config file^^ |
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| 02:31.33 | jharrison | I hope helix gets her act together too cause it looks like its coming for FL after it hits us |
| 02:31.35 | mentor | g4lt: Ah cool. |
| 02:31.42 | g4lt | aetas yes, it is offtopic, but why should I be any different than the rest of you morons? |
| 02:31.45 | R4F | i've got a pb with sata and debian, the boot process hangs up at sata drives detection ... it's looking for a driver that doesn't exist, do someone knows the trick with grub ? |
| 02:31.49 | Phated | jharrison: Ouchies. Looks like a bad one, then/ |
| 02:31.50 | Phated | ? |
| 02:31.51 | jharrison | Phated: till the power goes out for a week |
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| 02:31.55 | jharrison | yes |
| 02:31.56 | jharrison | cat 4 |
| 02:31.57 | aetas | g4lt: then you have no right to correct anyone else |
| 02:31.57 | Phated | jharrison: Ouch. |
| 02:32.00 | jharrison | weather.com |
| 02:32.15 | jharrison | i tried to warn helix but she said she wasnt concerned |
| 02:32.17 | Phated | aetas, g4lt: Everyone's OT right now, let's not fight over it. |
| 02:32.18 | g4lt | aetas no, but I do anyways. FYVM |
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| 02:32.34 | Phated | FYVM? |
| 02:32.35 | mentor | ~fyvm |
| 02:32.41 | mentor | TYVM? |
| 02:32.43 | jharrison | she may become concerned if the hurricane picks up that paper hut she calls a house and tosses it in the ocean |
| 02:32.44 | Tezkah | FVWM!? |
| 02:32.47 | aetas | good, then Im going to ignore any spam/off topic complaints you guys have |
| 02:32.51 | sgeigerbot | !mentorsmack |
| 02:32.57 | g4lt | !fyvm is fuck You Very Much |
| 02:32.57 | dpkg | okay, g4lt |
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| 02:33.12 | jharrison | anyone else in FL better start getting ready now. and thats no joke |
| 02:33.13 | Phated | Er, WTF are we being abused for being Ot? 0_0 Gratuitous much? |
| 02:33.16 | Cyis | well I'm gonna go try and kludge this firewall configuration together... |
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| 02:33.22 | mentor | g4lt: Can we tone down the profanity a bit? |
| 02:33.31 | zruty | Cyis: hey how, no being on topic here ;) |
| 02:33.32 | initech | mentor: why? |
| 02:33.33 | Tezkah | yeah, you'll scare the fucking children! |
| 02:33.34 | aetas | Phated: I don't care, I just don't want to hear it when someone else complains to me :) |
| 02:33.41 | aetas | Phated: like g4lt did a few days ago |
| 02:33.59 | g4lt | mentor it was hidden in acronym... ;P |
| 02:34.05 | Phated | aetas: I've not seen anyone bugging you about it. Now, it really depends how OT you were being, and how un-OT the rest of the channel was at the time. |
| 02:34.12 | mentor | g4lt: 'was'. ;) |
| 02:34.12 | Cyis | mentor: if you get any ideas... could you email me at jbouse@debian.org... uh... scratch that... jtbouse@gmail.com since my domain that my debian.org address forwards to is offline till I get this done |
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| 02:34.24 | initech | this channel is off topic most of the time, which is probably the only reason i'm here :) |
| 02:34.35 | scarynetworkguy | !abuse aetas |
| 02:34.39 | aetas | g4lt: good, a little abuse turns me on :) |
| 02:34.42 | Phated | initech: Hell yeah! |
| 02:34.45 | mentor | You mean we can get rid of you by being on topic? |
| 02:34.47 | g4lt | !srt aetas |
| 02:34.59 | Phated | Urgh. |
| 02:35.03 | aetas | haha |
| 02:35.04 | DaDeXTeR | argh |
| 02:35.10 | mentor | !factinfo cmd: srt (.*?) |
| 02:35.10 | dpkg | cmd: srt (.*?) -- last modified at Fri Jan 16 09:36:58 2004 by peterS!~peter@adsl-64-123-112-8.dsl.wchtks.swbell.net. |
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| 02:35.20 | mentor | muhahahaa. |
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| 02:35.30 | initech | mentor: i'm having a problem with samba, what is it, exactly? :) |
| 02:35.32 | Phated | !lart everyone |
| 02:35.39 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: Yeah, if the o stood for on. :) |
| 02:35.53 | mentor | initech: Someone from Africa? |
| 02:35.58 | gaytron | vaseline is very useful |
| 02:36.01 | scarynetworkguy | Phated: heh |
| 02:36.06 | Phated | scarynetworkguy: :) |
| 02:37.20 | initech | mentor: just trying to be on topic. also, uh, i just switched to sunstable because everyone reccommended it, and now my outlook doesn't work, pls help! |
| 02:37.40 | mentor | initech: Stop trying to use Windows programs in Debian G/L |
| 02:37.56 | scarynetworkguy | initech: did you apply XP SP 3.4.5? |
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| 02:38.08 | g4lt | sunstable? what is sun using Debian now? |
| 02:38.11 | initech | mentor: i have the debian unstable GL edition. someone said it works with IE! why doesn't it?!!! |
| 02:38.33 | mentor | initech: Too many punctuation characters in the system. |
| 02:38.35 | DaDeXTeR | now my outlook doesn't work <-- I don't see anything unusual |
| 02:39.05 | ningo | !bugs kde |
| 02:39.13 | initech | mentor: dude, i downloaded knoppix GL enterprise pro 32 and now my shit just doesn't work. do you want to help or what?!?!? |
| 02:39.40 | g4lt | initech the help I offer is: Don't use Knoppix you fool! |
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| 02:40.12 | scarynetworkguy | initech: apt-get install unfuckmyshit |
| 02:40.20 | Tezkah_ | note to self, dont kick out the power to the router |
| 02:40.28 | DaDeXTeR | good idea |
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| 02:40.54 | initech | scarynetworkguy: i tried that but everything got worse!!! |
| 02:40.59 | J_P | people, how i do for go to line 22 in vi ? |
| 02:41.20 | DaDeXTeR | press down 22 times |
| 02:41.20 | g4lt | J_P vi +22 file |
| 02:41.31 | DaDeXTeR | :P |
| 02:41.33 | scarynetworkguy | initech: not good |
| 02:41.41 | Tezkah | J_P looks like a crazy set of eyes O_- |
| 02:41.46 | initech | M-x goto-line 22 .. oh wait |
| 02:41.52 | DaDeXTeR | argh |
| 02:41.57 | DaDeXTeR | MY EYES!!! |
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| 02:42.50 | Tezkah | <(O.O)> |
| 02:43.09 | gaytron | Tezkah: you have beautiful eyes <wink> |
| 02:43.10 | initech | <(+.+)> |
| 02:43.21 | gaytron | initech: you have beautiful eyes <wink> <wink> |
| 02:43.24 | scarynetworkguy | initech: did you do a apt-get install warrenzevon first? |
| 02:43.58 | direkt | would this message cause X to crash: Could not init font path element unix/:7100, removing from list! ? |
| 02:44.01 | initech | scarynetworkguy: yes tried but apt-get doesn't work at all! it just says command not found or something ... is red hat broken? |
| 02:44.05 | Tezkah | gaytron: I'd be a bit afraid if I wasn't bi <wink> |
| 02:44.09 | cafuego | direkt: No. |
| 02:44.21 | gaytron | OOPS! gotta run |
| 02:44.25 | cafuego | initech: Please go to #trolls. |
| 02:44.33 | scarynetworkguy | initech: on many different levels... |
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| 02:44.46 | direkt | cafuego: KDE begins to load then crashes with Caught signal 4. Server aborting |
| 02:44.50 | direkt | I cant figure out why |
| 02:44.54 | Mandulis | Ya, Knoppix screwd the hell out of my system, I had to format the drives again before they would recognize a megaraid device.. wierd |
| 02:45.11 | Tezkah | hehe, red hat |
| 02:45.19 | sgeigerbot | Mandulis: Do you actually know what you are doing? |
| 02:45.25 | novice | how can i change my hostname? i mean, all the time i boot my machine i have to write "hostname <name>". |
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| 02:45.47 | Mandulis | fairly well, I have used BSD until about a week ago. I'm new to debian |
| 02:45.51 | cafuego | SIGILL |
| 02:45.53 | CuSQuiNHo | hey, anyone know how can I boot from nfs ? I tried to compile a kernel with nfs support and append some args |
| 02:46.09 | scarynetworkguy | sgeigerbot: that has the same odds as the new Resident Evil movie not sucking |
| 02:46.20 | initech | novice: /etc/hostname, /etc/dnsdomainname, /etc/hosts - just fix them and it'll be ok |
| 02:46.39 | Tezkah | which editor uses the s/something/somethingdifferent ? |
| 02:46.50 | Mandulis | sgeigerbot: why? |
| 02:46.51 | initech | Tezkah: er, sed, sorta |
| 02:46.53 | g4lt | Tezkah ed |
| 02:47.02 | Tezkah | ah, the "standard" text editor |
| 02:47.07 | gaytron | CuSQuiNHo: compiled nfs support as a module? |
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| 02:47.11 | cafuego | direkt: Bad crash, caused by KDE not X, I'd say. |
| 02:47.12 | scarynetworkguy | Mandulis: In that case you should know better than to ask qustions before you RTFM |
| 02:47.12 | novice | initech: i edited my /etc/hostname |
| 02:47.14 | CuSQuiNHo | gaytron: native |
| 02:47.23 | Mandulis | sgeigerbot: I'm not saying Knoppix is bad, it works great on everything I have except my system with my megaraid card. |
| 02:47.23 | direkt | cafuego: try a different window manager? |
| 02:47.32 | cafuego | novice: That's only set at bootup. Run 'hostname my.host.name' as root |
| 02:47.35 | cafuego | direkt: yah |
| 02:48.03 | Mandulis | scarynetworkguy: I don't think I asked any questions....?? |
| 02:48.15 | gaytron | CuSQuiNHo: then i have no idea. |
| 02:48.35 | scarynetworkguy | Mandulis: Just trying to make you feel at home. :) |
| 02:48.41 | direkt | cafuego: how do I change which window manager loads on startup of X? |
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| 02:48.54 | Mandulis | scarynetworkguy: hehe ahh, well I appreciate it!! |
| 02:49.01 | gaytron | CuSQuiNHo: howabout CONFIG_ROOT_NFS ? |
| 02:49.26 | scarynetworkguy | Mandulis: anytime. |
| 02:49.38 | CuSQuiNHo | gaytron: kernel ? |
| 02:49.55 | gaytron | CuSQuiNHo: yes. are you mounting your root fs from nfs? |
| 02:49.59 | Mandulis | sgeigerbot: you must be a Knoppix fan? |
| 02:50.32 | CuSQuiNHo | gaytron: yes, trying to.. |
| 02:50.44 | novice | cafuego: u mean...all the time i boot i must type hostname my.host.name? |
| 02:51.12 | Tezkah | knoppix is great as a liveCD, but debian is the <3<3<3ness |
| 02:51.25 | cafuego | novice: No, it should be set from /etc/hostname at bootup. |
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| 02:52.41 | gaytron | CuSQuiNHo: did you check your kernel configuration carefully when you compiled the nfs support? /usr/src/linux/Documentation/Configure.help |
| 02:53.13 | gaytron | CuSQuiNHo: you need CONFIG_ROOT_FS and CONFIG_IP_PNP options too |
| 02:53.30 | gaytron | probably |
| 02:54.03 | CuSQuiNHo | hmm Ill check it thanks |
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| 02:56.43 | mike8901 | ==========================|)() wheres the cream filling? |
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| 02:56.44 | mike8901 | ==========================|)() wheres the cream filling? |
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| 02:56.44 | mike8901 | ==========================|)() wheres the cream filling? |
| 02:56.44 | DaDeXTeR | shut up |
| 02:56.44 | sgeigerbot | hello? |
| 02:56.44 | mike8901 | ==========================|)() wheres the cream filling? |
| 02:56.44 | Mandulis | Thanks mike :) |
| 02:56.44 | mike8901 | ==========================|)() wheres the cream filling? |
| 02:56.45 | sung | MIKE8901 |
| 02:56.45 | mike8901 | ==========================|)() wheres the cream filling? |
| 02:56.45 | Mandulis | hello! |
| 02:56.45 | sung | THE CREAM FILLING IS IN MY ANUS |
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| 02:56.49 | Mandulis | mmmmm yummy |
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| 02:56.56 | sgeigerbot | mentor: why did that take so long!! |
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| 02:57.32 | mentor | Damn bittorrent for saturating my upstream bandwidth. |
| 02:57.32 | gaytron | mentor: sung might not have been part of the attack :) |
| 02:57.37 | ningo | dpkg, ircstats |
| 02:57.37 | dpkg | Currently I'm hooked up to irc.us.freenode.net:6667 but only for 8d 14h 57m 42s. I had to reconnect 3 times. Connectivity: -3.361 %. I was last disconnected for 'Connection reset by peer'. |
| 02:57.54 | Donaldz | i aee gakera,, |
| 02:57.57 | Donaldz | =D |
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| 02:58.01 | mentor | gaytron: No, I didn't really think so. |
| 02:58.02 | coredmp | hello people |
| 02:58.20 | Donaldz | I?m is Brasileiro |
| 02:58.21 | coredmp | does anyone use any online application to log maintenance work of servers? |
| 02:58.29 | Donaldz | I?m is Brasileiro |
| 02:58.34 | sgeigerbot | Mandulis: knoppix is for desktop systems...not for raid-enabled systems. |
| 02:58.35 | Donaldz | =D |
| 02:58.39 | Donaldz | hauehEhuAHE |
| 02:58.40 | coredmp | cafuego: for those who keep server journals |
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| 02:58.50 | sgeigerbot | Mandulis: you could probably remaster it for such a system, though. |
| 03:00.12 | relex | mentor, my friend sung wishes to know why he was banned |
| 03:00.20 | DarknessX | in which package is 'xv'? (or does someone know a better command-line-based image viewer?) |
| 03:00.34 | Mandulis | sgeigerbot: it's ok, not to big of a concern. I was just following some tutorial on setting up a new kernel. It recommended using the .config that knoppix used, so I tried booting it on that system. Not a good idea |
| 03:00.38 | coredmp | anyone????? |
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| 03:00.52 | *** mode/#debian [+bbbb *!*@ool-182c0e8a.dyn.optonline.net *!-sung@producto-valvo.com *!*none@*.dyn.optonline.net *!*sung@*.com] by mentor |
| 03:00.57 | mentor | relex: I'm talking with him |
| 03:00.58 | coredmp | any sys admins with a job here? :p |
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| 03:01.20 | Mandulis | sgeigerbot: but as a desktop system, it is pretty damn cool. I'm still amazed at how they get so much onto 1 CD. |
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| 03:01.29 | relex | ok :) |
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| 03:02.34 | *** mode/#debian [-b+b *!-sung@producto-valvo.com *!sung@producto-valvo.com] by mentor |
| 03:02.45 | *** mode/#debian [-o mentor] by ChanServ |
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| 03:03.24 | initech | coredmp: yes i have a job |
| 03:03.31 | initech | somehow |
| 03:03.31 | sgeigerbot | Mandulis: yes, it is great. :-) |
| 03:03.49 | coredmp | do you use any application for documenting ur maintenance work? |
