| 00:00.08 | LinkInLinux | ha this text is so small |
| 00:00.16 | LinkInLinux | and i am getting major lag |
| 00:00.16 | directhex_ | LinkInLinux, good. that's one problem solved then |
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| 00:00.20 | LinkInLinux | test |
| 00:00.24 | LinkInLinux | never mind |
| 00:00.27 | simonrvn | !test |
| 00:00.27 | dpkg | No, simonrvn, you're not online any more. |
| 00:00.42 | LinkInLinux | LinkInWinXP, ping |
| 00:00.48 | asg | simonrvn: yes, you should have a cheese and onion sandwich |
| 00:00.52 | xxorroxx | rofl |
| 00:00.52 | Eclipser | !ping |
| 00:00.53 | dpkg | pong |
| 00:00.58 | LinkInLinux | how do i change this text to be bigger heh! |
| 00:01.00 | xxorroxx | browsing this list is pretty funny |
| 00:01.00 | xxorroxx | http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-taboos.txt |
| 00:01.01 | directhex_ | LinkInLinux, it's irc. it's slow. ignore it. |
| 00:01.06 | LinkInLinux | yeah :) |
| 00:01.15 | simonrvn | asg: already had a peanut butter and honey sandwich |
| 00:01.21 | LinkInLinux | mm sounds good |
| 00:01.24 | asg | simonrvn: yum |
| 00:01.36 | directhex_ | LinkInLinux, i'm sorta sleepy, to be honest. |
| 00:01.37 | LinkInLinux | thanks so much directhex_ !! |
| 00:01.41 | LinkInLinux | :) |
| 00:01.46 | Eclipser | LinkInLinux, depends on your terminal emulator |
| 00:01.52 | LinkInLinux | do you know how to make my irc text bigger? |
| 00:01.52 | LinkInLinux | oh |
| 00:01.54 | simonrvn | LinkInLinux: you mean the console font? |
| 00:01.59 | LinkInLinux | how do i change its settings? |
| 00:02.00 | LinkInLinux | yes |
| 00:02.02 | LinkInLinux | and the size |
| 00:02.11 | simonrvn | /etc/console/config |
| 00:02.12 | Eclipser | I only know of Eterm |
| 00:02.13 | directhex_ | hold ctrl, right click the xterm |
| 00:02.13 | LinkInLinux | k |
| 00:02.20 | directhex_ | do it a few times if need be |
| 00:02.28 | simonrvn | oh, x, different |
| 00:02.28 | directhex_ | eventually a font size menu appears |
| 00:02.43 | Eclipser | xterm is so ... evil |
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| 00:02.48 | LinkInLinux | much better thanks! |
| 00:02.50 | directhex_ | or download & install a replacement terminal with more control, such as gnome-console or eterm |
| 00:02.52 | LinkInLinux | how do i change the font? |
| 00:02.57 | simonrvn | Eclipser: works for me (tm) |
| 00:02.58 | LinkInLinux | okay this is better |
| 00:03.03 | LinkInLinux | heh |
| 00:03.10 | gx1 | jesus, i upgraded woody to 2.6 kernel and it totally broke X, i ran dpgk-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 but it didnt fix it, what do i have to do? |
| 00:03.23 | directhex_ | gx1, you're a fool for using 2.6 on woody |
| 00:03.26 | gx1 | lemme guess, i have to upgrade all of X |
| 00:03.27 | Eclipser | simonrvn, is it possible to copy something from irc nowadays with it? |
| 00:03.39 | gx1 | directhex_, well its too late :p |
| 00:03.41 | simonrvn | gx1: for one thing x doesn't need to be niced under a 2.6.x kernel |
| 00:03.43 | asg | gx1: no, X has nothing to do with your woody kernel |
| 00:03.45 | Eclipser | back when I used it, it used to deselect the stuff when new text appeared |
| 00:03.49 | LinkInLinux | directhex_: are there any other important apts i should do |
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| 00:04.02 | directhex_ | LinkInLinux, depends what you want. mozilla-firefox may be useful. |
| 00:04.03 | soth` | anyone got the lastest samba off sarge? |
| 00:04.10 | directhex_ | LinkInLinux, be sure to customise your desktop, as well. |
| 00:04.15 | LinkInLinux | i will! |
| 00:04.19 | LinkInLinux | I think I'll get kde |
| 00:04.22 | directhex_ | LinkInLinux, or to try another WM if you prefer |
| 00:04.23 | simonrvn | Eclipser: yeh, always was able to. though the screen + xterm bug is still there. i just do a ^s then cp if it's high traffic |
| 00:04.23 | LinkInLinux | and gnome |
| 00:04.37 | simonrvn | soth`: sarge does |
| 00:04.38 | MerlinCorey | ewww... |
| 00:04.38 | MerlinCorey | kde... |
| 00:04.46 | Eclipser | I need at least two more monitors to have my desktop set up properly :/ |
| 00:04.46 | directhex_ | LinkInLinux, that's "apt-get install kde gnome", which include a LOT of apps. |
| 00:04.52 | LinkInLinux | hmph |
| 00:04.54 | soth` | anyone using the lastest samba off sarge? |
| 00:04.54 | gx1 | i guess i can go back to my old 2.2 kernel in woody but is that a good idea? |
| 00:04.57 | LinkInLinux | i just want it to look cool |
| 00:04.59 | directhex_ | LinkInLinux, you can select which to use from gdm |
| 00:05.00 | simonrvn | soth`: sarge does |
| 00:05.02 | starshine | simonrvn: I use screen + xterm, wtf are you talking about? |
| 00:05.11 | soth` | what? |
| 00:05.16 | directhex_ | LinkInLinux, i like my desktop - http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~jms501/screenagain.png |
| 00:05.27 | LinkInWinXP | directhex_: like this http://kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=14888&file1=14888-1.png&file2=&file3=&name=xmmslyrics |
| 00:05.28 | simonrvn | starshine: certain apps behave differently in screen + xterm (console too mind you) |
| 00:05.38 | citral | edirecthex_, what do you think of badgers ? |
| 00:05.47 | LinkInWinXP | hehe cool |
| 00:05.54 | Eclipser | directhex_, it's nice... :) |
| 00:05.57 | directhex_ | citral, i think they work well when paired with mushrooms |
| 00:05.59 | DA_ | directhex_: nice |
| 00:06.04 | MerlinCorey | http://www.rumandcoke.net/merlin/tvbox.png <<< that's my TV video mode 2 :) |
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| 00:06.09 | directhex_ | LinkInLinux, each to his own, i suppose. that's a pretty basic kde desktop |
| 00:06.12 | LinkInWinXP | how do i test if my spekaers are working |
| 00:06.12 | starshine | simonrvn: hrmm, I only notice this sort of behavior on the mac, not on debian. |
| 00:06.22 | Eclipser | http://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_id=46319837140d1977a98a1c&p=screen here's mine |
| 00:06.22 | LinkInLinux | i mean i hope they are! |
| 00:06.29 | sub_pop | can anyone tell me how large the entire debian archive is? |
| 00:06.29 | directhex_ | LinkInLinux, basic test is "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp" |
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| 00:06.33 | starshine | and mac's rootless vs real X woes are none of #debian's worry |
| 00:06.35 | Fall | I can't stand mp3's without adequate id3 tagging :| |
| 00:06.36 | LinkInLinux | okay |
| 00:06.40 | Error_X | How do I send broadcast messages to everyone who's logged on? |
| 00:06.45 | gx1 | should i really use 2.2 kernel in woody? |
| 00:06.48 | asg | Error_X: wall |
| 00:06.51 | directhex_ | i can't stand mp3's |
| 00:06.52 | starshine | sub_pop: don't worry, you can't install everything anyway :) |
| 00:06.52 | Error_X | Ok |
| 00:06.58 | directhex_ | gx1, 2.2 and 2.4 are supported |
| 00:07.02 | LinkInLinux | no such device |
| 00:07.04 | simonrvn | starshine: seems it's more noticable in mac os x; had someone come into #debianppc a few hours ago complaining of screen and d-i not behaving very well |
| 00:07.13 | sub_pop | starshine: i want to create a mirrir |
| 00:07.15 | sub_pop | mirror* |
| 00:07.35 | starshine | simonrvn: tell him to run his X rootless and his pgup/pgdn will stay in his xterm like they're supposed to |
| 00:07.39 | Error_X | asg: syntax says: [file] ? |
| 00:07.43 | starshine | dunno about dri |
| 00:07.55 | gx1 | directhex_, so i should use 2.4 in woody? |
| 00:07.55 | asg | Error_X: yes, wall displays the contents of a file to everyone |
| 00:08.09 | simonrvn | starshine: it was more of a visual effect than pgup/down. well, </ot> ;) |
| 00:08.09 | directhex_ | LinkInLinux, hm, sounds like your sound isn't set up, then |
| 00:08.14 | LinkInLinux | yeah =( |
| 00:08.15 | Error_X | ah, its the same root sends to everybody when rebooting? |
| 00:08.19 | LinkInLinux | I have an audigy 2 |
| 00:08.19 | directhex_ | LinkInLinux, what does "lsmod | grep soundcore" say |
| 00:08.25 | asg | Error_X: no, that's a message from shutdown |
| 00:08.28 | Eclipser | LinkInLinux, what kernel |
| 00:08.28 | Phoenician | starshine, its ok downloaded alsa and oss now i hear the music but the volume seems to be very low |
| 00:08.29 | LinkInLinux | im in as root btw |
| 00:08.29 | simonrvn | starshine: i'll keep that in mind though |
| 00:08.32 | starshine | sub_pop: put a fat disk in a squid proxy and let it mirror what your child-sites actually fetch |
| 00:08.41 | directhex_ | LinkInLinux, don;t log into your desktop as root. |
| 00:08.44 | Phoenician | any idea how to have controle over sound |
| 00:08.45 | Phoenician | ? |
| 00:08.46 | Eclipser | my audigy2 is working just fine |
| 00:08.48 | starshine | Phoenician: use a mixer to turn up the volume :D |
| 00:08.48 | gx1 | what should i upgrade to today, sid or sarge |
| 00:08.57 | LinkInLinux | soundcore 3268 0 (autoclean) |
| 00:09.00 | LinkInLinux | i meant superuser |
| 00:09.04 | starshine | gx1: sarge |
| 00:09.05 | LinkInLinux | su i think does that? |
| 00:09.12 | gx1 | how do i get sarge |
| 00:09.16 | LinkInLinux | i am logged in as link but then did su (pw) |
| 00:09.19 | starshine | gx1: sid's for people who like to play with broken toys |
| 00:09.25 | zbowlin1 | Dell version Audigy 2s (with the Dobly 7.1 add on) need the latest Alsa drivers |
| 00:09.26 | LinkInLinux | LOL |
| 00:09.29 | LinkInLinux | starshine: like in the movie? |
| 00:09.32 | simonrvn | ...or test them |
| 00:09.34 | Error_X | asg: But there is another program too, where you just type it in |
| 00:09.39 | Error_X | I don't remember the name |
| 00:09.41 | Phoenician | starshine got any mixer in mind ? :) |
| 00:09.42 | zbowlin1 | not the ones compiled into the source |
| 00:09.42 | starshine | LinkInLinux: precisely like. see the naming guidelines |
| 00:09.49 | starshine | Phoenician: I use aumix. |
| 00:09.50 | LinkInLinux | starshine: yup :) |
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| 00:10.02 | Eclipser | LinkInLinux, lsmod | grep snd-emu10k1 |
| 00:10.04 | LinkInLinux | k |
| 00:10.12 | directhex_ | he's on 2.4 |
| 00:10.17 | directhex_ | 2.6 upgrade time, i suspect |
| 00:10.17 | Eclipser | directhex_, so am I |
| 00:10.21 | LinkInLinux | hmph |
| 00:10.23 | LinkInLinux | no return |
| 00:10.24 | directhex_ | or alsa install time |
| 00:10.32 | Eclipser | I compiled my alsa myself |
| 00:10.32 | directhex_ | 2.6 is easier |
| 00:10.34 | morner | whee |
| 00:10.40 | morner | hooray for debian |
| 00:10.43 | question | does anyone know (adress) where to apt-get module-init-tools from? |
| 00:10.49 | starshine | Phoenician: there is an alsamixer |
| 00:10.50 | directhex_ | LinkInLinux, what;s your cpu? |
| 00:10.54 | LinkInLinux | p4 |
| 00:10.57 | LinkInLinux | 2.8ghz |
| 00:10.59 | morner | now i have sound on my 2.6.8 kernel :) |
| 00:11.02 | simonrvn | question: backports.org, apt-get.org for woody |
| 00:11.06 | directhex_ | LinkInLinux, apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.8-1-686 |
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| 00:11.31 | Eclipser | I never use debian kernels either... except when I'm installing new system :) |
| 00:11.50 | LinkInLinux | couldnt find package |
| 00:12.13 | Eclipser | I like configuring kernel |
| 00:12.25 | LinkInLinux | directhex_: said couldnt find package |
| 00:12.36 | starshine | Eclipser: have you used software suspend? |
| 00:12.38 | directhex_ | LinkInLinux, apt-cache search kernel-image-2.6 |
| 00:12.42 | Eclipser | starshine, nope |
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| 00:13.01 | LinkInLinux | k done |
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| 00:13.04 | gringo | Hi |
| 00:13.14 | Eclipser | starshine, if I remember correctly that is :) |
| 00:13.14 | simonrvn | LinkInLinux: you installed from the new installer (sarge) or the older one? |
| 00:13.14 | gringo | how should I install the lastest java runtime environment on debian? |
| 00:13.16 | Phoenician | starshine, aumix is great more then that no graphics and iit got me up and runniing thnx alot ill just try alsamix now but really thnx alot |
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| 00:13.21 | directhex_ | LinkInLinux, what's the most recent version you see? 2.6.7? |
| 00:13.23 | LinkInLinux | simonrvn: i did sarge |
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| 00:13.26 | simonrvn | ok |
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| 00:13.30 | Eclipser | gringo, the way they explain in java.sun.com |
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| 00:13.32 | starshine | Phoenician: you're welcome :) |
| 00:13.33 | LinkInLinux | yes |
| 00:13.36 | LinkInLinux | directhex_: yes |
| 00:13.48 | gringo | gringo: but isn't there any package I can install from apt-get isntall? |
| 00:13.50 | simonrvn | 2.6.8 isn't in sarge yet |
| 00:13.57 | directhex_ | my bad. |
| 00:14.03 | simonrvn | s'ok |
| 00:14.07 | LinkInLinux | so i cant get it? |
| 00:14.10 | LinkInLinux | and no sounds? |
| 00:14.12 | starshine | simonrvn: did the kernel folks fix cd burning yet? |
| 00:14.12 | Eclipser | gringo, well, there's blackdown.org or something like that |
| 00:14.13 | directhex_ | ok LinkInLinux, as above but 2.6.7 not 2.6.8 |
| 00:14.17 | LinkInLinux | k |
| 00:14.33 | LinkInLinux | im replacing 2.6.8 with 2.6.7 |
| 00:14.40 | LinkInLinux | -1-686 |
| 00:14.41 | simonrvn | starshine: no idea. i do have a patch for sch_ingress, i guess see LKML |
| 00:14.44 | directhex_ | LinkInLinux, yep |
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| 00:14.50 | LinkInLinux | okay its going |
| 00:14.51 | LinkInLinux | :) |
| 00:14.55 | Eclipser | isn't there some critical bug in 2.6.7 |
| 00:15.01 | xxorroxx | what a fucking idiot .. I cannot access a website because my ISP ? http://linux.sgms-centre.com/howto/mozilla.php .. the page loads and says my ISP is on his 'blacklist' but I can load the page from google cache |
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| 00:15.24 | simonrvn | Eclipser: yeh, like /proc vuln |
| 00:15.27 | LinkInLinux | dud eit says that for me |
| 00:15.37 | LinkInLinux | xxorroxx: its on mine too |
| 00:15.49 | LinkInLinux | directhex_: okay its done |
| 00:15.51 | xxorroxx | LinkInLInux: the admin is a fucking lameass |
| 00:15.54 | Eclipser | simonrvn, is it local exploit or something more critical? |
| 00:16.01 | directhex_ | LinkInLinux, you have FAST connection |
| 00:16.06 | simonrvn | local. |
| 00:16.08 | LinkInLinux | xxorroxx: well i have comcast so hes shutting out A TON of users |
| 00:16.15 | LinkInLinux | directhex_: thanks :) |
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| 00:16.23 | Eclipser | directhex_, bah, I downloaded ~250MB updates in 3minutes |
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| 00:16.30 | simonrvn | Eclipser: a local can become remote if the remote attacker gets a foothold |
| 00:17.11 | Eclipser | will 2.6.8 get in sarge before it hits stable? |
| 00:17.18 | Phlip | What's up with the debian install instructions? on one page it says a system with X will take around 1GB and one without will take 450, then right below that it says that a system with X will take around 450MB and one without around 140MB, then a couple of screens down it gives them as 300MB and 150MB |
| 00:17.21 | simonrvn | likely |
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| 00:17.42 | Eclipser | Phlip, hehe |
| 00:17.44 | question | does anyone know (adress) where to apt-get module-init-tools from? |
| 00:17.49 | LinkInLinux | directhex_: do i need to compile anything? |
| 00:17.50 | Eclipser | Phlip, it depends on what you install :) |
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| 00:17.56 | directhex_ | LinkInLinux, no. |
| 00:17.57 | simonrvn | question: read what i told you |
| 00:17.57 | Phlip | I know |
| 00:18.01 | Eclipser | question, be more specific please :) |
| 00:18.01 | LinkInLinux | so i have the new kernel now? |
| 00:18.13 | Eclipser | after you boot |
| 00:18.19 | LinkInLinux | ah |
| 00:18.23 | question | need module-init-tools |
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| 00:18.31 | LinkInLinux | how do i get mozilla :)) |
| 00:18.35 | question | have error on make modules_install |
| 00:18.36 | LinkInLinux | err firefox rather |
| 00:18.43 | simonrvn | (00:11) < simonrvn> question: backports.org, apt-get.org for woody |
| 00:18.44 | directhex_ | LinkInLinux, apt-get install mozilla-firefox |
| 00:18.56 | LinkInLinux | apt-get install mozilla-firefox |
| 00:18.58 | LinkInLinux | oops |
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| 00:19.14 | LinkInWinXP | L) |
| 00:19.17 | question | make: *** [_modinst_post] Error 1 |
| 00:19.19 | LinkInWinXP | :) |
| 00:19.22 | simonrvn | Phlip: woody base + the update, plus vim and a couple of other things came to around 250 MB |
| 00:19.25 | Eclipser | sarge version of firefox is oooold :/ |
| 00:19.32 | LinkInLinux | do i need to rebot once i apt-get something? |
| 00:19.37 | LinkInLinux | reboot |
| 00:19.39 | sub_pop | no |
| 00:19.44 | Eclipser | LinkInLinux, only kernel needs reboot |
| 00:19.47 | starshine | depends what - rarely if ever. |
| 00:19.52 | LinkInLinux | how does it appear in xfce then? |
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| 00:20.01 | simonrvn | sarge i guess is probably around 300-350 |
| 00:20.07 | starshine | LinkInLinux: apt-get install menu |
| 00:20.08 | LinkInLinux | haha okay i just clicked web browser..didnt work before this |
| 00:20.15 | LinkInLinux | apt-get install menu |
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| 00:20.17 | LinkInLinux | oops again! |
| 00:20.20 | Eclipser | haha |
| 00:20.24 | directhex_ | LinkInLinux, you need to log out & in again to make the menu update itself |
| 00:20.34 | simonrvn | no you don't |
| 00:20.34 | directhex_ | LinkInLinux, on xfce4 you do anyway |
| 00:20.34 | LinkInLinux | it just woprks :) |
| 00:20.36 | simmerz | is there any way to rip an audio cd to an iso image on disc? |
| 00:20.45 | LinkInLinux | directhex_: well i just clicked web browser on the panel and it works :) |
| 00:20.50 | Eclipser | directhex_, stupid wm... in enlightenment you can build up the menus "manually" :) |
| 00:20.55 | LinkInLinux | directhex_: before it did nothing |
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| 00:21.05 | directhex_ | LinkInLinux, actually, i think you can run xfdesktop4 again to update the menus |
| 00:21.15 | simonrvn | only dumbass gnome-panel do you have to exit the x session |
| 00:21.17 | directhex_ | LinkInLinux, a full menu of installed apps if you right-click the deskorp |
| 00:21.27 | simonrvn | update-menus... |
| 00:21.37 | starshine | simmerz: more usefull to rip it to ogg :) |
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| 00:22.08 | Phlip | simmerz: ISO is the CD file system, so you can only store data in it |
| 00:22.23 | LinkInLinux | directhex_: so...if i understand linux correctly...you download anything (apps) and other windows managers will just know they are there? |
| 00:22.24 | simmerz | starshine: true, indeed |
| 00:22.29 | Eclipser | simmerz, grip is a good program |
| 00:22.35 | timzter | /etc/mysql/my.cnf shows that port 3306 is to be used. Yet when I tried to 'telnet localhost 3306', it says "telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused", but mysqld *is* running. |
| 00:22.43 | directhex_ | LinkInLinux, that's debian, not linux, that controlls that, via a package called menu |
| 00:23.00 | simmerz | Eclipser: equivalent based on qt? |
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| 00:23.15 | Eclipser | timzter, do you have port 3306 open? |
| 00:23.16 | simonrvn | timzter: turn off disable-networking or whatever it's called |
| 00:23.21 | LinkInLinux | directhex_: yeah thats what i meant :) |
| 00:23.31 | LinkInLinux | directhex_: wow...anything else to install? :) |
| 00:23.41 | LinkInLinux | directhex_: any goodies or things that make linux sfun |
| 00:23.48 | LinkInLinux | important runtime things,,, |
| 00:24.00 | Eclipser | simmerz, I've never used any others... grip is gtk/gnome program |
| 00:24.12 | Eclipser | LinkInLinux, aptitude |
| 00:24.16 | directhex_ | LinkInLinux, depends what you use. for now, reboot into the new kernel, see if it works. if not, the old kernel is still listed, you can get back in |
| 00:24.18 | Eclipser | or synaptic |
| 00:24.22 | Eclipser | synaptic is graphical |
| 00:24.27 | simmerz | yes, I noticed. I'd like to avoid installing too much gnome/gtk related stuff if i can |
| 00:24.28 | LinkInLinux | okay ill reboot |
| 00:24.35 | Eclipser | simmerz, oh |
| 00:24.42 | simonrvn | LinkInLinux: apt-cache search foo will tell you what you might want to install. e.g., apt-cache search sound, or games, etc. |
| 00:24.45 | directhex_ | simmerz, kaudiocreator is GREAT |
| 00:24.55 | directhex_ | simmerz, much better than grip, anyway |
| 00:25.00 | simonrvn | plop |
| 00:25.07 | Noid | directhex_: which articles are yours? |
| 00:25.07 | starshine | simmerz: aptitude is lots better (the categorical borwser in the menus is nice too) |
| 00:25.10 | timzter | Eclipser: When I run 'mysql', it is interacting with mysqld, correct? |
| 00:25.10 | Eclipser | directhex_, bah... it's kde :) |
| 00:25.27 | Eclipser | timzter, afaik you need to login before it'll do anything |
| 00:25.32 | LinkInWinXP | okay grub came up but now text is whizzing by |
| 00:25.38 | LinkInWinXP | what happened |
| 00:25.41 | LinkInWinXP | i didnt touch anything |
| 00:25.47 | directhex_ | Noid, ones that say "jo shields" at the top. the linux articles, rio karma review, gamepark gp32, a couple of othets |
| 00:26.02 | Noid | directhex_: ook |
| 00:26.03 | directhex_ | LinkInWinXP, 5 second timeout before it boots the first kernel in the list |
| 00:26.05 | starshine | LinkInWinXP: maybe it's booting? |
| 00:26.10 | LinkInWinXP | hmm |
| 00:26.12 | simmerz | what command line tools do i need to install to get KAudioCreator to rip to ogg? |
| 00:26.15 | LinkInWinXP | so you have to choose fast?? |
| 00:26.22 | directhex_ | simmerz, vorbis-tools i expect |
| 00:26.25 | timzter | Eclipser: Well, I *can* run mysql with no problems...so I assume mysql *is* interacting with mysqld.... just want to know what port mysqld is running on, because it doesn't appear to be running on port 3306 even though /etc/mysql/my.cnf says so. |
| 00:26.25 | Eclipser | LinkInWinXP, you can change the timeout |
| 00:26.28 | directhex_ | LinkInWinXP, or change the delay |
| 00:26.30 | LinkInWinXP | okay ishould |
| 00:26.36 | LinkInWinXP | is it in /etc/grub? |
| 00:26.43 | Eclipser | timzter, it should be :) |
| 00:26.47 | directhex_ | /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 00:26.48 | Eclipser | timzter, let me try |
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| 00:27.04 | Eclipser | timzter, hmm, interesting |
| 00:27.05 | timzter | Eclipser: ok, then how come I can't telnet to it from within the machine (localhost) |
| 00:27.05 | directhex_ | timeout 5 |
| 00:27.08 | Eclipser | eclipser@Eclipser:~$ telnet localhost 3306 |
| 00:27.08 | Eclipser | Trying 127.0.0.1... |
| 00:27.08 | Eclipser | telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused |
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| 00:27.31 | timzter | Eclipser: see? :) |
| 00:27.43 | timzter | Eclipser: I get the same message |
| 00:27.47 | Eclipser | mysql-admin logins properly though... |
| 00:27.50 | Eclipser | funny |
| 00:27.51 | timzter | Eclipser: uip |
| 00:27.52 | timzter | yup |
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| 00:28.00 | timzter | <confused> |
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| 00:28.05 | Eclipser | tell me about it |
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| 00:28.10 | Noid | !confuse timzter |
| 00:28.11 | dpkg | yes, where are their gouda today, timzter? by order of the dictatorship of mongolia with extra cream |
| 00:28.13 | LinkInWinXP | How do I change the pattern in the background? |
| 00:28.18 | simonrvn | # The skip-networking option will no longer be set via debconf menu. |
| 00:28.20 | LinkInWinXP | In gentoo it had a cool background picture |
| 00:28.25 | simonrvn | # You have to manually change it if you want networking i.e. the server |
| 00:28.28 | LinkInWinXP | err it specified a splash |
| 00:28.32 | simonrvn | # listening on port 3306. The default is "disable" - for security reasons. |
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| 00:28.42 | simonrvn | skip-networking |
| 00:29.08 | simonrvn | comment it to turn it on, and restart the mysqld. man i love getting ignored.. |
| 00:29.24 | Eclipser | simonrvn, then how does mysql and mysql-admin login properly?-p |
| 00:29.50 | Phlip | mysql to localhost will tru to connect by IPC or something iirc, because it's faster than tcp |
| 00:29.52 | timzter | what Eclipser said. |
| 00:29.54 | Phoenician | how can i make open office .org write arabic ? |
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| 00:30.06 | Eclipser | Phlip, oh |
| 00:30.17 | Phlip | tru = try |
| 00:30.21 | LinkInWinXP | anybody know how to make grub have a cool splash background?? |
| 00:30.22 | simonrvn | you specify the socket file as well. yes it's (mysql-admin, the gtk app) FUBAR |
| 00:30.46 | starshine | LinkInWinXP: background in your... bootloader? login page? general day to day screen in X? |
| 00:30.46 | timzter | simonrvn: ok, i see that skip-networking line in my.cnf |
| 00:30.54 | LinkInWinXP | Starfury^: grub |
| 00:31.00 | LinkInWinXP | starshine: grub |
| 00:31.13 | Deep7 | anyone an expert in proxy.pac files? |
| 00:31.18 | starshine | LinkInWinXP: there's some docs in /usr/share/doc/grub |
| 00:31.19 | Deep7 | with squid? |
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| 00:31.37 | directhex_ | LinkInWinXP, grub splash images are a bitch. don't bother |
| 00:31.44 | LinkInWinXP | okay |
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| 00:31.49 | timzter | simonrvn: if I leave it the way it is right now, what would the JDBC connectionURL to the mysql server be then? I mean what port? |
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| 00:31.55 | LinkInWinXP | it was just one line i think |
| 00:32.01 | directhex_ | LinkInLinux, the 2.6 kernel booted fine? |
| 00:32.02 | starshine | LinkInWinXP: mind you I've found lilo ones are easier, and they're a pita too |
| 00:32.10 | LinkInLinux | directhex_: i think |
| 00:32.20 | directhex_ | LinkInLinux, uname -r |
| 00:32.22 | LinkInLinux | k |
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| 00:32.49 | LinkInLinux | 2.6.7-1-686 |
| 00:32.51 | LinkInLinux | :) |
| 00:32.53 | LinkInLinux | Thanks!!! |
| 00:32.58 | holycow | you know, every once in a while i haveto scratch my head and consider just how much free software i use, and how little paid for proprietary stuff i uses |
| 00:33.00 | holycow | my god |
| 00:33.09 | holycow | from servers, to clients, to an operating system |
| 00:33.22 | SyntaxTerror | does anyone know how to untar more tarballs at once? |
| 00:33.30 | LinkInWinXP | use &&? |
| 00:33.45 | SyntaxTerror | LinkInLinux, ? |
| 00:33.48 | directhex_ | hehe. xargs i expect |
| 00:33.52 | LinkInLinux | oh i was replying to the guy above |
| 00:33.58 | SyntaxTerror | oh ok |
| 00:33.58 | holycow | thats just a killer thought, especially when you consider all the software compines out there selling stuf |
| 00:34.14 | starshine | SyntaxTerror: for i in *tar ; do xcvfpS $i ; done |
| 00:34.14 | directhex_ | LinkInLinux, right. now "lsmod | grep soundcore" - get something? |
| 00:34.16 | Eclipser | ouch |
| 00:34.19 | Eclipser | my X just crashed... |
| 00:34.29 | LinkInLinux | what was the file to configure this terminals text size/font? |
| 00:34.30 | Phoenician | is there a graphical rar unrar program ? |
| 00:34.42 | SyntaxTerror | starshine, could you provide the whole cmd line for me? |
| 00:34.43 | LinkInLinux | i was gonna say winrar lol |
| 00:34.45 | holycow | directhex_, thomas is supposed to be working on a bootloader package for debian |
| 00:34.50 | starshine | SyntaxTerror: I just did... |
| 00:34.57 | holycow | it would be cool to see some of the code and contribute |
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| 00:35.20 | SyntaxTerror | starshine, xcvfpS $i doing in that directory is all i need? |
| 00:35.22 | Chass | hey guys, i have some problems with k3b under debian using gnome desktop environment |
| 00:35.37 | holycow | whats that Chass |
| 00:35.44 | directhex_ | LinkInLinux, like i said, try a different termianl, such as gnome-terminal |
| 00:35.45 | starshine | SyntaxTerror: no, you need it inside the for loop that assigns a variable value to "i" |
| 00:35.50 | directhex_ | Chass, 2.6.8 kernel, run it as root |
| 00:35.52 | vesty | howdy ladies/lads, how do I check if PHP is compiled with mysql support? |
| 00:36.03 | LinkInLinux | okay so im new enough to linux not to know how to download and update firefox from the Internet...anybody help/ |
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| 00:36.13 | Chass | it complains that it can not find the cdrecord executable even though its in my path |
| 00:36.16 | directhex_ | LinkInLinux, generally, don't |
| 00:36.17 | Chass | and the fonts are shit ugly |
| 00:36.20 | directhex_ | LinkInLinux, use apt |
| 00:36.23 | LinkInLinux | directhex_: ah yes, somebody told me before what it was..just wondering heh |
| 00:36.27 | deadcat | can you guys test this for me? echo /etc/rcS.d/S??mountvirtfs |
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| 00:36.36 | holycow | Chass, are you sure its installed? |
| 00:36.36 | LinkInLinux | directhex_: this is firefox 0.8 |
| 00:37.00 | LinkInLinux | directhex_: id like 0.9.2 |
| 00:37.00 | Chass | holycow, yes, installed and works |
| 00:37.00 | directhex_ | LinkInLinux, apt-get update gets a list of the latest apps available, and latest versions. apt-get dist-upgrade updates all apps to more recent |
| 00:37.00 | Chass | installed using the debian package |
| 00:37.01 | SyntaxTerror | starshine, that sounds confusing to me. for example i want to untar about 200 tarballs (gkrellm-skins) in one directory, what would you type then? |
| 00:37.01 | directhex_ | LinkInLinux, 0.9 on debian is iffy |
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| 00:37.01 | LinkInLinux | =/ |
| 00:37.01 | hedekar | Hi I'm running Galeon on xfce4 on debian woody and when I try to sign into www.hotmail.com I get an error message that tells me I need to install Personal Security Manager. Does anyone know what this is or where I can find it? |
| 00:37.03 | directhex_ | LinkInLinux, stick with 0.8 |
| 00:37.06 | vesty | I know I have mysql installed, and PHP is definitely installed/working, but I don't know how to check that PHP has support for mysql |
| 00:37.06 | LinkInLinux | k |
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| 00:37.12 | holycow | Chass, does it run as root? |
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| 00:37.28 | holycow | if so you need to run the setup utility, which requires kcontrol to be installed as well |
| 00:37.29 | starshine | SyntaxTerror: the for loop that I gave, if you had already cd'd into that dir, would do it. but with so many, xargs might work better |
| 00:37.32 | directhex_ | <directhex_> LinkInLinux, right. now "lsmod | grep soundcore" - get something? |
| 00:37.39 | simonrvn | timzter: no port. the. socket. file. in. /var/run/mysqld. |
| 00:37.53 | Chass | holycow, yes it does work as root (but the fonts are still ugly) |
| 00:37.56 | SyntaxTerror | starshine, what is xargs? |
| 00:38.00 | starshine | SyntaxTerror: xargs has its own man page, the for loop is covered in the bash man page (which is long and well worth reading) |
| 00:38.06 | Chass | i'll install kcontrol. i have lots of diskspace |
| 00:38.07 | directhex_ | Chass, use kcontrol to edit root's settings then |
| 00:38.09 | holycow | Chass, do you have kcontrol installed then? |
| 00:38.26 | directhex_ | Chass, k3b is a kde app, it uses your kde font settings |
| 00:38.31 | holycow | then run the ksetup utility and it will change all the permissions and such i think |
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| 00:38.35 | hedekar | has anyone ever heard of a Personal Security Manager patch being needed to sign into hotmail? |
| 00:38.40 | directhex_ | holycow, yup |
| 00:38.43 | LinkInWinXP | wow firefox 0.8 is buggy!! |
| 00:38.54 | Chass | kcontrol installed, but no kconfig app |
| 00:38.56 | LinkInWinXP | no wait its the theme |
| 00:38.57 | Chass | but i have a direction now. thanks |
| 00:39.19 | starshine | SyntaxTerror: find . -type f -name \*tar | xargs tar xzvfpS |
| 00:39.35 | Chass | GOOD GOD.. i turned on anti aliasing on the fonts, and now it displays half korean stuff.. |
| 00:39.38 | Eclipser | LinkInWinXP, yes, some custom themes for 0.8 are buggy :) |
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| 00:39.47 | Chass | and i can't read it :( |
| 00:39.49 | LinkInWinXP | the noia one wont work =/ |
| 00:40.03 | starshine | SyntaxTerror: the real question is *why* 200 tarballs??? |
| 00:40.17 | hedekar | does anyone know how to sign into a hotmail account using Linux? |
| 00:40.28 | SyntaxTerror | starshine, all gkrellm-skins |
| 00:40.29 | Chass | hedekar, using a standard browser |
| 00:40.30 | LinkInWinXP | hedekar: ...i JUST did |
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| 00:40.36 | LinkInWinXP | firefox... |
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| 00:40.46 | starshine | SyntaxTerror: ok I didn't think there were that many ethemes :) |
| 00:40.54 | deadcat | can someone test this for me: echo /etc/rcS.d/S??mountvirtfs |
| 00:41.01 | hedekar | Chass: I'm using Galeon and when I do it it asks for a Personal Security Manager patch to be installed |
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| 00:41.41 | cafuego | omen! |
| 00:41.42 | Chass | qQ |
| 00:42.13 | hedekar | Does anyone have much experience in running the Galeon browser? |
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| 00:42.20 | timzter | simonrvn: ok thx |
| 00:42.31 | holycow | we gotta get k3b ported to gnome i think :) |
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| 00:42.34 | hax | whats the right way to install cpan packages in debian? |
| 00:42.39 | holycow | lol damn fine app imho |
| 00:42.44 | SyntaxTerror | starshine, im sorry but im still confused about it. please provide what exactly do i have to type in the directory containing the tarballs |
| 00:42.48 | simonrvn | timzter: mind you, if you enable the networking, it can do both the socket and the port |
| 00:42.58 | cafuego | holycow: it runs fine under gnome. |
| 00:42.59 | simonrvn | hax: dh-make-perl |
| 00:43.10 | hax | simonrvn: where do i get that? |
| 00:43.11 | hedekar | has anyone ever used the browser galeon? |
| 00:43.17 | simonrvn | hax: the usual place |
| 00:43.25 | Chass | *sigh* after running kcontrol once, every subsequent run has the fonts broken completely. displays crap |
| 00:43.27 | hax | simonrvn: oops sorry, missed that |
| 00:43.30 | deadcat | i am trying to do this: [ -L /etc/rcS.d/S??mountvirtfs ] && echo yes; but the problem is theres 2 matches and the test statement fails. how to fix this? |
| 00:43.30 | hax | heh |
| 00:43.35 | holycow | cafuego, *nod* my gnome zealot comes out once in a while :) |
| 00:43.36 | starshine | SyntaxTerror: either the for loop or find command I gave *is* and exact command. if you won't read man pages to help your understanding, linux will get even more confusing for you, and I recommend going back to on switches. |
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| 00:44.14 | simonrvn | cafuego: hey, 2.6.x kernel builds go tonnes faster, can't complain :) |
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| 00:44.32 | cafuego | simonrvn: In well under half an hour now? ;-) |
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| 00:45.08 | SyntaxTerror | starshine, the manpage about xargs confuses me just more :( |
| 00:45.16 | simonrvn | cafuego: no, i have a lot of modules. |
| 00:45.20 | starshine | SyntaxTerror: I gave you what you wanted |
| 00:45.24 | LinkInWinXP | What is the name of the terminal in xcfe |
| 00:45.29 | LinkInWinXP | do i can google for help |
| 00:45.31 | LinkInWinXP | so |
| 00:45.31 | starshine | SyntaxTerror: THE WHOLE LINE |
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| 00:45.41 | simonrvn | cafuego: i'll paste the time output when it's done |
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| 00:45.46 | cafuego | simonrvn: *longer* than half an hour? |
| 00:45.47 | hax | simonrvn: so, uhh, i ran it... now what? |
| 00:45.47 | Abacus | What is this SENDER ID about? |
| 00:45.59 | greycat | Abacus: bastard child of SPF |
| 00:46.07 | simonrvn | hax: read the help and the man page |
| 00:46.08 | cafuego | greycat: authenticated spam |
| 00:46.09 | holycow | http://mirror.open-xchange.org/ <-- btw if anyone hasnt heard, open exchange available for download for free |
| 00:46.41 | SyntaxTerror | starshine, i tried that find line and got an error: find . -type f -name \*tar | xargs tar xzvfpS |
| 00:46.41 | SyntaxTerror | tar: Old option `f' requires an argument. |
| 00:46.56 | Phoenician | i just set uyp xcdroast it says something about scsi emulation and better performance but my cdrw is atapi ide is there anything i can do to inhance performance ? |
| 00:46.56 | beowu1f | cs|daVe: hey dave.. |
| 00:47.02 | Hydroxide | SyntaxTerror: you want to add a - to the end |
| 00:47.12 | Hydroxide | SyntaxTerror: oh, no, I'm wrong |
| 00:47.16 | Hydroxide | SyntaxTerror: scratch that |
| 00:47.17 | simonrvn | cafuego: yes |
| 00:47.17 | cafuego | and you don't want that 'v' there. |
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| 00:47.22 | cafuego | simonrvn: sheesh! |
| 00:47.32 | LinkInWinXP | aha its working! |
| 00:47.35 | LinkInWinXP | noia lite works |
| 00:47.43 | greycat | SyntaxTerror: you want "-n1" in the xargs options because tar can only take *one* tar file at a time |
| 00:47.46 | Hydroxide | SyntaxTerror: you'll have to use a loop, since tar doesn't support extracting multiple archives at once |
| 00:48.02 | Hydroxide | greycat: ah, that's a cool trick. I didn't know about that |
| 00:48.21 | simonrvn | cafuego: busy computer, what can i say :). i think it's half the time than before, something like 1h40m or such. i'll let you know |
| 00:48.23 | starshine | SyntaxTerror: go back to the for loop, including the semicolons. for merely 200 files it ought to work. |
| 00:48.36 | reality | how do i get basic java support in mozilla on debian? |
| 00:48.44 | cafuego | reality: Install a jre |
| 00:48.45 | greycat | reality: /msg dpkg java |
| 00:48.45 | deadcat | i am trying to do this: [ -L /etc/rcS.d/S??mountvirtfs ] && echo yes; but the problem is theres 2 matches and the test statement fails. how to fix this? greycat you know? |
| 00:48.47 | simonrvn | i just do a for loop for tar and single input shit |
| 00:48.53 | starshine | SyntaxTerror: and now you know why I gave that one first... |
| 00:49.10 | greycat | deadcat: what do you actually want to test for, then? |
| 00:49.12 | aTypical | reality, there are instructions for installing the java plguin on the mozilla site. |
| 00:49.53 | LinkInWinXP | how do i look what i can download through apt? |
| 00:49.57 | LinkInWinXP | at what* |
| 00:49.59 | greycat | LinkInWinXP: apt-cache search |
| 00:50.03 | LinkInWinXP | thanks :) |
| 00:50.06 | cafuego | deadcat: LINK=$(ls /etc/rcS.d/S??mountvirtfs | awk '{print $1}'); if [ -L $LINK ]; then echo yes; fi |
| 00:50.23 | cafuego | deadcat: That'll check the first match |
| 00:50.26 | LinkInWinXP | says i must give a pattern |
| 00:50.31 | greycat | LinkInWinXP: well duh... |
| 00:50.36 | SyntaxTerror | starshine, tar -xcvfpS $i tar: You may not specify more than one `-Acdtrux' option |
| 00:50.39 | LinkInWinXP | how do i search the whole thing |
| 00:50.42 | LinkInWinXP | like browse it |
| 00:50.43 | deadcat | cafuego: i tried ls. it took 6 sec to do what i want. i need to use build-in commands |
| 00:50.51 | starshine | SyntaxTerror: whoops. c should be z. |
| 00:50.52 | greycat | LinkInWinXP: you really, really don't want to do that. |
| 00:51.02 | SyntaxTerror | starshine, LOL |
| 00:51.02 | LinkInWinXP | okay\]]holy |
| 00:51.09 | LinkInWinXP | um my x broke |
| 00:51.12 | cafuego | deadcat: *six* seconds to run ls? wtf sort of machine/disk are you running that on? |
| 00:51.12 | reality | whats the name of the java vm in blackdown? |
| 00:51.14 | LinkInWinXP | and now its rebooting? |
| 00:51.23 | LinkInWinXP | what the |
| 00:51.31 | greycat | griffon:~$ apt-cache search . | wc -l |
| 00:51.31 | greycat | 17519 |
| 00:51.31 | Alleria | what would be a good way to cat recursively? e.g. everything in a directory and subdirectory? |
| 00:51.34 | Alleria | I'm thinking find? |
| 00:51.48 | greycat | Alleria: find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 cat |
| 00:52.09 | cafuego | greycat: it takes 0.002 seconds here |
| 00:52.11 | Alleria | greycat: thanks much! |
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| 00:52.17 | LinkInWinXP | Anybody have an idea why my system rebooted? i just typed apt-get search xchat |
| 00:52.18 | deadcat | cafuego: no. i am going through all the files in /etc/rc?.d |
| 00:52.36 | deadcat | let me show you the script. but my neibor's router was just reseted. )= |
| 00:52.38 | hedekar | nither mozilla or galeon will load hotmail for me |
| 00:52.46 | SyntaxTerror | starshine, tar -xzvfpS $i tar: pS: Cannot open: No such file or directory |
| 00:52.53 | greycat | LinkInWinXP: bad hardware? |
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| 00:53.01 | LinkInWinXP | hah! i hope not@ |
| 00:53.02 | starshine | SyntaxTerror: I SAID use the for loop! |
| 00:53.02 | greycat | SyntaxTerror: put the f last. |
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| 00:53.23 | greycat | SyntaxTerror: by the way, why are you asking non-debian questions here? :) |
| 00:53.29 | starshine | greycat: location of the f is not his problem, he's not filling $i with a value. |
| 00:53.32 | directhex_ | LinkInWinXP, xfree86 dies. it sorta sucks. |
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| 00:53.38 | hedekar | can anyone suggest why I am unable to load hotmail in either mozilla or galeon? |
| 00:53.45 | Phoenician | my xcdroast sees two cdrom drives but when i try to mount the second one manually i get this error """<starshine>""" |
| 00:53.48 | greycat | starshine: I disagree; look at his error. it thinks pS is the file name |
| 00:53.53 | LinkInWinXP | directhex_: what do you mean? when it does search?> |
| 00:53.54 | deadcat | greycat: cafuego: http://68.123.122.202/list-rc.d.sh |
| 00:54.06 | Phoenician | root@oberon:/etc# mount /dev/cdrom1 /mnt/cdrom1 |
| 00:54.06 | Phoenician | mount: you must specify the filesystem type |
| 00:54.14 | deadcat | greycat: cafuego: if you run that. you will get 1 error. from the rcS.d dir. |
| 00:54.16 | cafuego | deadcat: for link in $(ls /etc/rc?.d/*); do test -L "$link" && echo "OK: $link" || echo "ERR: $link"; done <-- 0.006 seconds |
| 00:54.22 | directhex_ | LinkInWinXP, many things can trigger it. take it as business as usual |
| 00:54.28 | LinkInWinXP | directhex_: okay |
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| 00:54.34 | simonrvn | SyntaxTerror: man bash |
| 00:54.41 | cafuego | ERR: /etc/rcS.d/README |
| 00:54.49 | LinkInWinXP | directhex_: im guessing to get xchat all i do is type apt-get install xchat, right? |
| 00:54.53 | SyntaxTerror | simonrvn, nice advice, but no thx |
| 00:54.54 | greycat | SyntaxTerror: /join #bash and then state what your actual goal is |
| 00:55.00 | directhex_ | LinkInWinXP, right |
| 00:55.02 | LinkInWinXP | :) |
| 00:55.03 | starshine | simonrvn: told ya |
| 00:55.06 | LinkInWinXP | thanks bro :) |
| 00:55.13 | directhex_ | LinkInWinXP, did you have any sound modules loaded now? |
| 00:55.15 | simonrvn | SyntaxTerror: then go away then. |
| 00:55.21 | LinkInWinXP | directhex_: i dont know |
| 00:55.23 | DrBlink | im getting a corrupt file while installing the base |
| 00:55.27 | LinkInWinXP | directhex_: havent tested anything |
| 00:55.30 | directhex_ | LinkInWinXP, lsmod | grep soundcore |
| 00:55.44 | SyntaxTerror | simonrvn, didnt ask my question to u actually, did i? |
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| 00:56.10 | simonrvn | SyntaxTerror: public channel. live with it. consider yourself /ignored |
| 00:56.29 | LinkInWinXP | directhex_: says soundcore 10336 3 emu10k1,sound,snd |
| 00:56.37 | starshine | SyntaxTerror: you were given answers, implemented them poorly, tell us go blow when we tell you to read? you don't pay us enough for this. |
| 00:57.01 | Guerin | is it still sunday or something? |
| 00:57.06 | Spike-Sp | cafuego or greycat: for link in /etc/rc?.d/*; is enought no need to ls |
| 00:57.07 | simonrvn | yes |
| 00:57.10 | Guerin | ah |
| 00:57.11 | starshine | ref issue 64 linuxgazette.net The Answer Gang |
| 00:57.11 | simonrvn | Guerin: ^^ |
| 00:57.29 | cafuego | Spike-Sp: Yes, I know. |
| 00:57.33 | simonrvn | /ig -replies SyntaxTerror |
| 00:57.34 | DrBlink | i get a corrupt file while installing the base, wont let me continue - is this a problem the cdr media ? or something else entirely? |
| 00:57.40 | Spike-Sp | cafuego: ok sorry then |
| 00:57.45 | directhex_ | LinkInWinXP, thought it might. right now, sound should work via OSS. the alternative is ALSA. |
| 00:57.56 | LinkInWinXP | directhex_: okay im gonna be afk for a bit...thanks for the help :) |
| 00:58.04 | directhex_ | LinkInWinXP, i'm going to bed |
| 00:58.13 | simonrvn | i hope this kernel is small enough for quik. stupid thing... |
| 00:58.23 | LinkInWinXP | directhex_: oh okay before you do I'd like to thank you for all of your help. You are invaluable :) |
| 00:59.24 | beowu1f | hi all.. dows anybody know the command to 'broadcast' messages to logged on users??? |
| 00:59.30 | starshine | LinkInWinXP: /msg dpkg sound |
| 00:59.32 | greycat | beowu1f: wall |
| 00:59.59 | directhex_ | LinkInWinXP, no problem. |
| 01:00.16 | beowu1f | greycat: thanx... great help |
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| 01:00.52 | zbowlin1 | dude.. i'm like so high... |
| 01:01.16 | zbowlin1 | tehheeheheee |
| 01:01.22 | cafuego | deadcat: Keep in mind that though a link may exist in /etc/rc?.d, a services may be disabled via /etc/default/* |
| 01:01.44 | deadcat | cafuego: ya i know. |
| 01:02.06 | starshine | ttfn |
| 01:02.19 | deadcat | but the damn /etc/rcS.d/S??mountvirtfs has 2 in that dir. )= and [ -L ] will fail |
| 01:02.41 | zbowlin1 | Most people can do without the essentials, but not without the luxuries. - Linus at LinuxWorld |
| 01:03.09 | reality | after installing the blackdown jre package will that configure mozilla to use the vm? or is there additional configuration that i need to do after that? |
| 01:03.45 | The_Vulture | reality: probably have to make the appropriate symlink or something like that *shrugs* |
| 01:03.58 | The_Vulture | I could be wrong, try it: http://java.sun.com/tutorial/essential/threads |
| 01:04.04 | The_Vulture | there should be 3 little applets there |
| 01:04.15 | deadcat | /etc/rcS.d/S02mountvirtfs@ /etc/rcS.d/S36mountvirtfs@ |
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| 01:05.52 | yaiLLf8d | lo all anyone here run gngeo that might be able to help me out? |
| 01:06.01 | Guerin | !anyone use |
| 01:06.01 | dpkg | No, no-one uses it, not even the people who use it. |
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| 01:07.35 | noeticpenguin | anyone know of a ipod on linux help chan ? |
| 01:07.51 | DrBlink | Can someone help me out with the installation process of debian ---> base system? |
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| 01:08.11 | greycat | !tell DrBlink about install |
| 01:08.36 | z36ra | anyone know how to install an alien RPM on debian? What's the command? |
| 01:08.38 | directhex_ | noeticpenguin, next time, get a player with at least vague open source leanings, such as the rio karma or neuros |
| 01:09.04 | DrBlink | greycat im getting a corrupt file during the base install |
| 01:09.15 | z36ra | trying to instal VIA sound drivers... |
| 01:09.20 | Tetsou | if i have a server with dhcp connection to the internet, how do i share its internet connection for a windows computer? |
| 01:09.26 | noeticpenguin | directhex_, oh geesh, it was a gift. |
| 01:09.27 | Guerin | DrBlink: did you check the integrity of your install disc? |
| 01:09.30 | reality | The_Vulture, what symlinks might i need to create? |
| 01:09.58 | DrBlink | im reburning another cdrw |
| 01:10.00 | Guerin | Tetsou: apt-get install ipmasq, then configure your windows box to use that machine as a gatweay |
| 01:10.10 | DrBlink | but if its not the media - could it be something else? |
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| 01:10.30 | Guerin | DrBlink: what install cd is it? |
| 01:10.50 | Guerin | what iso image, I mean. |
| 01:10.55 | Tetsou | Guerin oh and do you know if there is any program i can run to always have the same ip? |
| 01:10.56 | DrBlink | Guerin debian-30r2-i386-binary-1.iso |
| 01:10.58 | Tetsou | on dhcp |
| 01:11.17 | The_Vulture | reality: there's a bit of documentation out there on the web you can probably find |
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| 01:11.30 | z36ra | anyone got sound working with VIA 8233A on Sarge? |
| 01:12.15 | Guerin | Tetsou: no, if you get your ip by dhcp then the dhcp server controls that. |
| 01:12.18 | DrBlink | z36ra: is that an esc board? |
| 01:12.29 | z36ra | msi |
| 01:12.53 | Tetsou | Guerin but on windows i know a friend is running some program that links something, so the ip changes, but its making a virtual adress that is always the same |
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| 01:13.08 | Guerin | DrBlink: ok, that image is definitely fine. Instead of burning it again, check the md5 of the iso against the md5 of the original on cdimage.d.o |
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| 01:13.25 | Guerin | Tetsou: that's not the same as having the same ip address. |
| 01:13.43 | Guerin | Tetsou: apt-cache search dynamic ip |
| 01:13.44 | DrBlink | well i had a sound issue on my esc board and i fixed it by removing the sound jumpers from the front panel to mobo |
| 01:13.54 | Tetsou | well i want that its always possible to access the box with a certain ip |
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| 01:14.05 | Guerin | Tetsou: there are such client programs for debian, I just don't know them. |
| 01:14.12 | Tetsou | ok |
| 01:14.30 | z36ra | DrBlink: it was working in RH9 but doesn't with Debi |
| 01:14.38 | Guerin | Tetsou: you mean a certain domain name - like http://tetsou.fucktard.org |
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| 01:14.53 | holo | hiz |
| 01:14.56 | Tetsou | ehm |
| 01:15.08 | Tetsou | no |
| 01:15.13 | holo | gaim has transparencies option? |
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| 01:15.17 | DrBlink | greycat: it was indeed a very scratchy cdrw that was causing the problem |
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| 01:15.31 | Tetsou | for example 82.182.166.58 should always link to my machine |
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| 01:15.55 | Guerin | Tetsou: unless your isp gives you a static ip address, you're at the mercy of the dhcp server's settings. |
| 01:16.17 | holycow | k. i just love indubstrial theme in gnome, its spankin' |
| 01:16.17 | holo | yo me here |
| 01:16.23 | z36ra | so I downloaded the source RPM from VIA but now I cant figure out how to install it. RPM says to use the "alien" option. |
| 01:16.33 | Tetsou | hmm wish i remember what that program he uses is called, there has to be some copy for windows |
| 01:16.38 | Tetsou | errr linux |
| 01:16.39 | Guerin | z36ra: apt-get install alien |
| 01:16.55 | holycow | then man alien |
| 01:17.14 | holycow | you may consider a few of the switches in there as well |
| 01:17.15 | Covener | Tetsou: It's probably just some stupid client to update dynamic dns. |
| 01:17.39 | Tetsou | Covener aye i think so |
| 01:17.49 | Guerin | Tetsou: unless it's some sort of dhcp client-side trickery which fools the dhcp server into giving out the same addy each tims, I don't know. |
| 01:17.54 | beowu1f | has anybody ever had a problem trying to get there scroll mouse working in [kde] before? |
| 01:18.15 | z36ra | thanx... I thought it was an option for dpkg |
| 01:18.21 | Guerin | beowu1f: nothing to do with kde, mouse actions are handled by X windows |
| 01:18.25 | bytecolor | what is the process that puts my laptop screen in standby? |
| 01:18.26 | Tetsou | Guerin ok |
| 01:19.06 | Covener | bytecolor: apm or acpi? how are you triggering it? |
| 01:19.09 | holycow | *ooo* eject -t |
| 01:19.21 | holycow | heh :) cool in a very lame way |
| 01:19.28 | Guerin | holycow: it's the little things, isn't it? |
| 01:19.32 | beowu1f | Guerin: well using xorg atm but would also go for xfree86 |
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| 01:19.43 | holycow | Guerin, *high five* very much so :) |
| 01:19.44 | bytecolor | Covener, that's what I want to know, I didnt enable APM last kernel compile |
| 01:19.56 | Guerin | beowu1f: you're using xorg in debian? Or you're not using debian? |
| 01:20.02 | beowu1f | Guerin: anywhere in particular i could adjust these setting? |
| 01:20.17 | bytecolor | dont know about ACPI though, lemme grep .config |
| 01:20.29 | Tetsou | Guerin you know any good guide on howto setup dhcp ? =) |
| 01:20.33 | Seb | hrm, is /. misleaded, or is this really a screenshot from a linux box ? http://img3.exs.cx/img3/6458/screen_lynucs_1759409500411796a9ba106_1.jpg |
| 01:20.40 | reality | omfg ive followed every howto, every doc, everything i can find about setting up jre and i still havent got fucking java applets to work in firefox |
| 01:20.43 | holycow | that means i gotta get the disk mounter applets for gnome patched, gotta add close to them |
| 01:20.44 | beowu1f | Guerin: kinda swapping between debian & gentoo.. but i've got same problem in debian |
| 01:20.47 | Tetsou | iface eth0 inet dhcp, not sure that will work ;p |
| 01:21.05 | Guerin | beowu1f: add "Option" "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" to your mouse config in XF86Config-4, or run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-whatever |
| 01:21.08 | greycat | reality: which JRE did you install, and where is it? |
| 01:21.33 | bytecolor | when my screen goes into standby, X crashes |
| 01:21.34 | Guerin | Tetsou: man interfaces |
| 01:21.58 | Seb | reality: I have j2re1.4.2_03 from Sun, and it works fine |
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| 01:22.21 | bytecolor | CONFIG_ACPI isn't set either, so wtf is putting my screen into standby... |
| 01:22.26 | cafuego | Seb: Might well be a Linux box running MOL. |
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| 01:22.41 | reality | Seb, what steps did you take to install it? |
| 01:22.44 | bytecolor | maybe it's just crashing, out of the blue |
| 01:23.13 | greycat | fine, ignore me. |
| 01:23.59 | beowu1f | Guerin: gonna give it a bash now.. thank u.. |
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| 01:24.10 | cafuego | Seb: Either way, the menu bar at the top appears to have been cut from the image - and that's th only way you could have decided one way or the other if it's Linux or OS X. |
| 01:24.11 | reality | greycat, jre1.4.2_05 from sun |
| 01:24.12 | qip|Virus|da | hi, does someone here have a M$ Explorer 4 or a Logitech MX Laser (1000)? I want to use the vertical scrolling of my mx1000 and do not know how. xev does not recognize a event when i tilt the wheel sideways |
| 01:24.22 | greycat | reality: *where* is it? that's the critical piece. |
| 01:25.14 | Vyrus001 | how do i set the PKG_CONFIG_PATH enviorment var ?? |
| 01:25.31 | asg | Vyrus001: export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/wtf |
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| 01:25.39 | Vyrus001 | thanx |
| 01:25.48 | pbryan | Debian sucks. |
| 01:25.49 | Seb | cafuego: heh |
| 01:25.53 | asg | Vyrus001: if you are using a bourne shell derivative |
| 01:25.53 | Seb | cafuego: what's MOL ? |
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| 01:26.06 | asg | pbryan: feel free to use something else then |
| 01:26.07 | Vyrus001 | asg yes :P bash |
| 01:26.07 | Seb | reality: well, using Sun's .bin installer, what else ? |
| 01:26.15 | cafuego | Seb: Mac-On-Linux - a way of running MacOS (Classic or X) under Linux. |
| 01:26.22 | Seb | cafuego: I see |
| 01:26.25 | MerlinCorey | Vyrus001: what are you doing now, foo..? |
| 01:26.30 | MerlinCorey | Vyrus001: where's my fekkin chorus track :) |
| 01:26.32 | greycat | reality: free hint: ls /usr/local |
| 01:26.43 | cafuego | Seb: Kind of like wine, except it actually works and runs the *actual* OS. |
| 01:26.44 | Vyrus001 | MerlinCorey, lolol sup :P |
| 01:26.58 | Seb | cafuego: k. BTW is x.org in sid ? |
| 01:27.06 | cafuego | Seb: I doubt it. |
| 01:27.11 | greycat | Seb: no |
| 01:27.16 | Seb | ok |
| 01:27.42 | Seb | just no maintainer, or other reasons ? |
| 01:27.45 | LinkInWinXP | downloading xchat for linux w00t |
| 01:28.05 | gx1 | good thin, cuz the windows xchat costs $$ |
| 01:28.12 | cafuego | Seb: Other reasons. |
| 01:28.15 | cafuego | !xorg |
| 01:28.15 | dpkg | somebody said xorg was an alternative X implementation (a fork of XFree86 4.4RC2) from the X.Org Foundation - the current release is X11R6.7. It will not be packaged for Debian until after the Sarge release. At that time, Debian will probably go with the new modular packages of X.org, if it is ready, or the monolithic release if not. See http://people.debian.org/~terpstra/message/20040712.051027.74293658.html for more information . |
| 01:28.25 | matt_ | gx1, ?? |
| 01:28.26 | Guerin | !fuck xchat |
| 01:28.31 | holycow | Seb, lsat i read they were ... thanks cafuego |
| 01:28.32 | matt_ | windows xchat is free |
| 01:28.32 | holycow | :) |
| 01:28.51 | MerlinCorey | !punish xchat for half-assed gnu compliance |
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| 01:28.56 | Linkis_Naes | yay!! |
| 01:29.03 | Seb | cafuego: ok, thanks for the linx |
| 01:29.06 | reality | ive lost my java :/ |
| 01:29.07 | Seb | link |
| 01:29.08 | cafuego | xchat is shit. Why use it on either windows OR linux? |
| 01:29.11 | Linkis_Naes | okay now i can get out of irc n winxp :) |
| 01:29.19 | Seb | reality: what are you talking abput ? |
| 01:29.22 | Linkis_Naes | cafuego, then what SHOULD I use? |
| 01:29.27 | LinkInWinXP | LinkInWinXP: test |
| 01:29.29 | Seb | Linkis_Naes: irssi |
| 01:29.31 | cafuego | Linkis_Naes: irssi would be a nice start. |
| 01:29.32 | holycow | MerlinCorey, lol :) |
| 01:29.32 | Linkis_Naes | ... |
| 01:29.35 | greycat | reality: what dir were you in when you installed it? |
| 01:29.36 | Linkis_Naes | thats ughlu |
| 01:29.38 | Linkis_Naes | ugly |
| 01:29.38 | reality | i cant find where i installed it, i followed a howto |
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| 01:29.40 | bytecolor | Im getting aquainted with ircII |
| 01:29.40 | alec | cafuego, it's a lot easier to get in to than bitchx or epic, and isn't that krappy KDE client |
| 01:29.42 | Linkis_Naes | whats so bad about xchat |
| 01:29.45 | reality | and i cant find the damn howto |
| 01:29.51 | Linkis_Naes | ?? |
| 01:29.53 | reality | *Beats head on monitor* |
| 01:30.01 | holycow | Linkis_Naes, the writer kinda stepped on toes when going proprietary on win |
| 01:30.02 | cafuego | Linkis_Naes: I'd rather have an ugly client than a crap one that requires 100MB of windowing system to run. |
| 01:30.03 | greycat | reality: find / -name java -print |
| 01:30.16 | holycow | no one cares that he makes money, he just made a few assumptions about the code contained in the project |
| 01:30.24 | Linkis_Naes | first of all dont be cheap...hard drive space doesnt cost much |
| 01:30.45 | MerlinCorey | Linkis_Naes: it sure does if you have to cover food first ;) |
| 01:30.50 | holycow | basically he said all patches submitted without licence notice are considered his, and if writer wishes to have them removed he would rewrite them |
| 01:30.55 | holycow | which is fine, its just tacky as hell |
| 01:30.55 | cafuego | Linkis_Naes: I don't consider that a reason to waste it. |
| 01:31.00 | Linkis_Naes | 60 bucks for an 80 gig drive thats super fast |
| 01:31.05 | Seb | reality: 1) download theInstallerFile.bin from sun's site 2) chmod 755 theInstallerFile.bin 3) Run this .bin 4) move the created directory under /usr/local/ 5) point firefox to that directory |
| 01:31.06 | Linkis_Naes | aint much if ya ask me :) |
| 01:31.22 | holycow | i hope he makes some money off the windows weenies, i mean hell, those guys don't mind paying throught the nose for everything |
| 01:31.24 | Linkis_Naes | nobody has given a reason heh |
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| 01:31.32 | Linkis_Naes | yall just want to bash it :) |
| 01:31.37 | reality | /usr/java/j2re1.4.2_05/bin/java |
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| 01:31.56 | Seb | reality: find, so now go point firefox to /usr/java/j2re1.4.2_05/ |
| 01:31.57 | cafuego | Linkis_Naes: I just have an innate dislike for pointy-clicky software. it's slow to use, eats resources. |
| 01:32.02 | Seb | reality: fine, so now go point firefox to /usr/java/j2re1.4.2_05/ |
| 01:32.19 | greycat | reality: /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/ |
| 01:32.19 | Linkis_Naes | cafuego, well thats a better reason. Its your opinion. Before i thought you were discounting it for everybody |
| 01:32.25 | holycow | Linkis_Naes, you shouldn't lump everyone together on this, its not fair to others that don't hold a particular position |
| 01:32.31 | Seb | Linkis_Naes: hellcow gave reasons now didn't he ? |
| 01:32.34 | cafuego | Linkis_Naes: And really, I don't want to run an X irc client on a remote box. |
| 01:32.34 | Seb | heh |
| 01:32.38 | Seb | holycow I mean |
| 01:32.40 | Linkis_Naes | holycow, 2 people did so thats why i said yall :) |
| 01:32.40 | Jacobo221 | I set "auth ...... /usr/sbin/nullidentd jacobo" in /etc/inetd.conf but ident still answer "foobar" instead of "jacobo". any ideas on this problem? |
| 01:32.50 | maher | anyone familiar with dirvish - how do you set it up for remote banks? |
| 01:32.51 | cafuego | Linkis_Naes: Nono, you misunderstand. I' |
| 01:32.51 | greycat | Jacobo221: killall -HUP inetd |
| 01:32.52 | Linkis_Naes | okay okay im sorry gosh :) |
| 01:32.54 | Guerin | the whole xchat story is really bad |
| 01:32.59 | cafuego | Linkis_Naes: Nono, you misunderstand. I'll make the bot 'dpkg' explain. |
| 01:33.05 | cafuego | !right |
| 01:33.05 | dpkg | right, (n): 1) The opposite of left. 2) What cafuego says. |
| 01:33.10 | Linkis_Naes | i just dont like people being all high and might about using "text based only" things and thinking they are super cool |
| 01:33.11 | cafuego | Linkis_Naes: See? |
| 01:33.14 | Seb | heh |
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| 01:33.15 | holycow | ah 'us two' k :) ehe, personally i hope he makes some money off winners, it's only just :) |
| 01:33.16 | Seb | cute one |
| 01:33.23 | MerlinCorey | lol, cafuego, using dpkg to strengthen your position..? |
| 01:33.25 | MerlinCorey | :) |
| 01:33.27 | greycat | dpkg, right =~ s/(n)/(adj)/ |
| 01:33.27 | dpkg | OK, greycat |
| 01:33.40 | Linkis_Naes | holycow, i apologize if i was rude, didnt mean anything :) |
| 01:33.40 | Guerin | even if it were the best irc client in the world, people who care about free software ought to be boycotting it |
| 01:33.43 | MerlinCorey | !shoot all who oppose MerlinCorey |
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| 01:33.52 | reality | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 67 Sep 5 21:16 libjavaplugin_oji.so -> /usr/java/j2 re1.4.2_05/plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32/libjavaplugin_oji.so |
| 01:33.52 | reality | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:33.54 | Seb | greycat: but then the definition #1 doesn't fit :> |
| 01:33.56 | holycow | Linkis_Naes, your making assumptions that people who don't like the xchat situation actually hold that position, your creating your own label to hate :) |
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| 01:34.10 | Seb | reality: so what does about:plugins in firefox says ? |
| 01:34.11 | Linkis_Naes | im not hating!!! |
| 01:34.11 | cafuego | MerlinCorey: I don't need my position strengthened, as what I say is right. |
| 01:34.14 | bytecolor | mutt for mail, slrn for news, zinc for yahoo chat, and ircII for IRC, vi for editing |
| 01:34.17 | maher | Guerin: what's up with xchat |
| 01:34.17 | Jacobo221 | greycat: i did sudo killall -HUP inetd already many times, still not working, that's the problem :/ |
| 01:34.23 | Linkis_Naes | wow |
| 01:34.25 | MerlinCorey | cafuego: ah, correct ;) |
| 01:34.41 | bytecolor | I think the only reasong I run X is so I can tile a few rxvts |
| 01:34.42 | Linkis_Naes | im saying that people should not discount every gui just cause it IS a gui app |
| 01:34.51 | reality | Seb, default plugin & shockwave flash |
| 01:34.55 | Linkis_Naes | xchat works great! i get colored nicks and all sorts of cool things |
| 01:35.02 | cafuego | Linkis_Naes: I just don't see why people would use software that takes 20Mb of ram to run SLOWER then a text based client that eats 4Mb |
| 01:35.03 | Guerin | maher: the windows version of xchat is proprietary, despit being mostly the same code. |
| 01:35.24 | cafuego | Linkis_Naes: I have coloured nicks too. |
| 01:35.27 | Linkis_Naes | cafuego, okay thanks :) |
| 01:35.29 | Seb | reality: tryp copying the java plugin rather than linking it |
| 01:35.37 | MerlinCorey | Linkis_Naes: and you're saying irssi or bitchx DOESN'T work great..? is there some part of the RFC they're missing..? |
| 01:35.38 | maher | Guerin: that's to promote free sw by punishing windows users :) |
| 01:35.42 | Guerin | maher: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/08/30/1859210&tid=117 |
| 01:35.42 | Linkis_Naes | cafuego, hmm idid see that :) |
| 01:35.44 | Guerin | maher: haha |
| 01:35.49 | reality | Seb, i read that anything other than a symlink will not work |
| 01:35.51 | Seb | bytecolor: make that centericq :) |
| 01:35.57 | cafuego | MerlinCorey: Actually, irssi doesn't support /CTCP WAV |
| 01:35.58 | Seb | reality: it's cp'ed on my box and it works |
| 01:36.00 | Linkis_Naes | whoa i stepped on a loose stone heh |
| 01:36.11 | Linkis_Naes | i say xchat is good and i get all this... |
| 01:36.16 | xam | cafuego: wtf is that? |
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| 01:36.40 | cafuego | xam: Some shit that was used my mirc a few years back to auto-send-and-play small sound files. |
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| 01:36.50 | MerlinCorey | cafuego: that's not part of IRC's RFC; irssi also doesn't support full read of the 005 numeric, so special channel user modes don't get shown in IRSSI, like the common . or ~ for +q, etc... |
| 01:36.56 | iki | where might "grub.conf" be in testing? |
| 01:36.57 | xam | cafuego: I'm glad my ircII doesn't support it either |
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| 01:37.04 | rich_ | Hello |
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| 01:37.08 | iki | I'm new to grub, I can't find that in /etc |
| 01:37.08 | Seb | iki: /boot/grub/menu.lst ? |
| 01:37.19 | reality | seb: LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so [/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so: undefined symbol: _ZdlPv] |
| 01:37.19 | reality | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:37.20 | iki | seb sounds good. |
| 01:37.21 | iki | thanks |
| 01:37.26 | xam | iki: man update-grub |
| 01:37.49 | Seb | reality: exactly what was the path of the plugin you copied ? |
| 01:37.53 | cafuego | matt_: Yes, I use mIRC |
| 01:38.03 | holycow | lol holy shit your right |
| 01:38.05 | iki | you'd think it'd be as easy as man grub |
| 01:38.08 | matt_ | ?? |
| 01:38.10 | holycow | xchat uses 24 megs of ram |
| 01:38.10 | holycow | wow |
| 01:38.11 | holycow | heh |
| 01:38.12 | reality | debian:/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins# cp /usr/java/j2re1.4.2_05/plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32/libjavaplugin_oji.so ./ |
| 01:38.15 | maher | Guerin: ok - i care about free sw but if the xchat author wants to release a proprietary windows version that doesn't bother me, assuming he respects others' code licences - anyway you can run the linux version under cygwin so it seems kind of pointless anyway |
| 01:38.16 | Linkis_Naes | it does? |
| 01:38.18 | matt_ | cafuego, er.. thanks for the info but i didn't ask |
| 01:38.19 | Linkis_Naes | ! |
| 01:38.29 | cafuego | matt_: Yes, you did. |
| 01:38.40 | matt_ | 0.o |
| 01:38.58 | Guerin | maher: yeah, it's more the principle of taking other people's code contributions and claiming them as his own (absent a specific request from the author) |
| 01:39.08 | reality | Seb, debian:/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins# cp /usr/java/j2re1.4.2_05/plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32/libjavaplugin_oji.so ./ |
| 01:39.22 | holycow | what Guerin said, its kinda like opt out billing |
| 01:39.36 | holycow | he really should of emailed and asked the authors directly at the very least |
| 01:39.42 | Linkis_Naes | why would xchat run with 24 mb of ram..its so simple |
| 01:39.45 | Linkis_Naes | =( |
| 01:39.48 | Seb | reality: what version of debian are you runiing ? |
| 01:39.49 | maher | Guerin: if he only has small patches from other people heh gets to do what he likes - but if there are big chunks he needs to get permission - I don't know what the legal definition of big chunks is though.... |
| 01:39.56 | holycow | Linkis_Naes, i'm shocked too |
| 01:39.57 | reality | Seb, sarge |
| 01:39.58 | MerlinCorey | Linkis_Naes: well, it depends on a lot of stuff... |
| 01:40.04 | cafuego | Linkis_Naes: GUI overhead. it the same reason windows is a crap server OS. |
| 01:40.10 | MerlinCorey | Linkis_Naes: like GTK... |
| 01:40.11 | Guerin | maher: it's just ugly. |
| 01:40.11 | reality | Seb, and firefox 0.9.3 |
| 01:40.12 | Seb | reality: i run sid. Maybe try copying the one in ns610/ ? |
| 01:40.23 | holycow | mozilla thunderbird 89.3 megs! |
| 01:40.23 | holycow | heh |
| 01:40.31 | xam | maher: not really. Even if someone has contributed just a single line, he has a copyright |
| 01:40.31 | Linkis_Naes | test |
| 01:40.36 | Linkis_Naes | ha my com pbeeps |
| 01:40.41 | Linkis_Naes | my sound isnt working! |
| 01:40.48 | deadcat | apt-get moo |
| 01:40.48 | Linkis_Naes | Could anybody help? :) |
| 01:40.53 | MerlinCorey | Linkis_Naes: /msg dpkg sound |
| 01:40.57 | Linkis_Naes | okay thanks |
| 01:40.58 | Guerin | Linkis_Naes: /msg dpkg audio |
| 01:40.59 | bytecolor | I got rid of firefox, wasnt to my liking |
| 01:41.07 | reality | Seb, according to the mozilla website firefox has to have the plugin that was compiled with GCC 3.2.2, and the one in the ns610 dir is compiled with 2.9 |
| 01:41.12 | Linkis_Naes | ha cool |
| 01:41.22 | holycow | firefox 158 megs |
| 01:41.25 | holycow | rofl :) |
| 01:41.26 | Seb | bytecolor: yet you could try centericq :> |
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| 01:41.37 | maher | xam: afaik at least in the us that's not the case |
| 01:41.45 | Seb | reality: look bro, obviosuly what the website says doesn't work, right ? So we're trying stuff out here |
| 01:41.49 | xam | maher: at least in europe is |
| 01:41.51 | deadcat | Seb: centericq rocks. but the emacs key binds dont work for me. |
| 01:42.05 | bytecolor | Seb, wtf is centericq? I dont do ICQ, if thats what it is... |
| 01:42.06 | Guerin | holycow: feh, mine's only using 43MB |
| 01:42.07 | maher | xam: or rather fair use or something means that effectively you can do what you like with small enough patches |
| 01:42.28 | Seb | deadcat: it does work here. Only the simplest ones though |
| 01:42.28 | bytecolor | or emacs |
| 01:42.29 | Linkis_Naes | test |
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| 01:42.38 | xam | maher: assume someone has a complex on-liner, and he contributes that to xchat. Now suddenly he lots his copyright? |
| 01:42.39 | Seb | bytecolor: it's like trillian for linux. All the protocols of IM are supported |
| 01:42.45 | bytecolor | I see |
| 01:42.55 | holycow | my first python app, basic notepad app takes 19 megs |
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| 01:42.57 | holycow | rofl :) |
| 01:42.57 | Seb | bytecolor: i don't do ICQ either :> |
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| 01:43.14 | deadcat | Seb: ya. maybe the version on my friend's server doesnt workt hen. i just need ^W and ^U. too bad i cant bind the keys to vi like (= |
| 01:43.15 | bytecolor | na, ircII and zinc are enough, no more chatting than I do |
| 01:43.24 | deadcat | Seb: especially going up/down the list |
| 01:43.25 | holycow | god, remember the days when you could run fun games on a commedore in a couple dozen k worth of space? jesus |
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| 01:43.36 | Linkis_Naes | heh |
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| 01:43.52 | maher | xam: ok - i can't find the ref... i could be wrong |
| 01:43.55 | Seb | what good games are apt-gettable these days ? |
| 01:44.03 | xam | maher: this doesn't fall under fair use. You are *not* allowed to change a license without the permission of all authors. Fair use just relates to the *use* and *copying* of software, but not to re-licensing |
| 01:44.14 | Linkis_Naes | what does this mean when i run xchat: gtk-warning locale not suported by c library using the fallback c locale |
| 01:44.20 | Linkis_Naes | its on the terminal |
| 01:44.21 | Nurbs | Seb: depends on what you like |
| 01:44.23 | reality | Seb, ok now firefox crashed, want me to paste the output to #flood? |
| 01:44.29 | Seb | reality: no thanks |
| 01:44.37 | gx1 | dont you hit tab when lilo is startin to get to pick which kernel to put? |
| 01:44.37 | Seb | Linkis_Naes: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 01:44.38 | MerlinCorey | Linkis_Naes: it doesn't like your locales, apparently... |
| 01:44.44 | Seb | Linkis_Naes: and enable the ones you want |
| 01:44.49 | SharkY | Hi :-p |
| 01:44.58 | Linkis_Naes | okay |
| 01:45.02 | reality | Seb, it didnt crash until i tried to load a site with java applets |
| 01:45.03 | Linkis_Naes | now i can tget to prompt =/ |
| 01:45.08 | MerlinCorey | ah, SharkY! |
| 01:45.22 | bytecolor | gx1, up/down arrows? |
| 01:45.25 | Seb | reality: so about:plugins said it found it ? |
| 01:45.26 | LinkInWinXP | dumb thing exited after i exited terminal |
| 01:45.37 | MerlinCorey | LinkInWinXP: apt-get install screen |
| 01:45.47 | Seb | gx1: shift rather, no ? |
| 01:45.52 | xam | maher: eg. In many (if not all) european countries you even cannot reassign the copyright to somebody else. Once the author, always the (same) author. You can just change the license (as the author, and perhaps others can do it aswell with his permission only) and sublicense the software to others |
| 01:45.52 | Seb | gx1: use grub :) |
| 01:45.57 | pshaggy | which package includses the man pages for c? |
| 01:45.58 | SharkY | I'm trying to share some information in my network using nfs |
| 01:46.05 | reality | Seb: Java(TM) Plug-in 1.4.2_05-b04 |
| 01:46.07 | reality | so yes |
| 01:46.16 | SharkY | but i configure /etc/exports with rw |
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| 01:46.19 | Seb | reality: try java.sun.com and find the example applets in there |
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| 01:46.28 | SharkY | and client in /etc/fstab with rw |
| 01:46.31 | sakroot | Hello |
| 01:46.39 | SharkY | and i only can ro access |
| 01:46.48 | sakroot | i have troubles with package gcc-3.3 in SARGE |
| 01:46.52 | Nurbs | pshaggy: you'll probably want gcc-doc, manpages-dev I think |
| 01:46.56 | sakroot | i see in page official gcc-3.3 (1:3.3.4-6sarge1.2) |
| 01:46.56 | MerlinCorey | sakroot: check the BTS..? |
| 01:47.03 | LinkInWinXP | umm hey guys |
| 01:47.07 | LinkInWinXP | which locales do i check |
| 01:47.09 | Seb | SharkY: what does showmount -e server say ? |
| 01:47.15 | Seb | LinkInWinXP: the ones for your language |
| 01:47.16 | LinkInWinXP | us iso us utf...? |
| 01:47.19 | sakroot | MerlinCorey and i install gcc-3.3 (1:3.3.4-6sarge1) |
| 01:47.22 | LinkInWinXP | im int he usa |
| 01:47.28 | Seb | LinkInWinXP: US iso is good |
| 01:47.33 | LinkInWinXP | theres 3 options |
| 01:47.36 | MerlinCorey | LinkInWinXP: which was it bitching about..? I think it said something about C locale, right..? |
| 01:47.41 | LinkInWinXP | yes! :) |
| 01:47.43 | pshaggy | thanks Nurbs |
| 01:47.45 | LinkInWinXP | c library |
| 01:47.48 | toresbe | I now know four really cool tunes on the piano! |
| 01:47.51 | LinkInWinXP | but i have one of them checked |
| 01:47.52 | sakroot | someone help me? |
| 01:47.56 | sakroot | MerlinCorey |
| 01:47.57 | sakroot | ?¿ |
| 01:47.57 | LinkInWinXP | us iso 8859 1 |
| 01:47.57 | MerlinCorey | sakroot: have you checked the BTS perchance..? |
| 01:48.10 | Seb | sakroot: you haven't described a problem so far, have you ? |
| 01:48.17 | SharkY | 192.168.1.100:/mnt/hdb1 |
| 01:48.18 | SharkY | 192.168.1.101:/mnt/hdb1 |
| 01:48.18 | SharkY | 192.168.1.10:/mnt/hdb1 |
| 01:48.18 | SharkY | 192.168.1.3:/mnt/hdb1 |
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| 01:48.24 | MerlinCorey | !vagueness |
| 01:48.24 | dpkg | VAGUENESS MAKES THE BABY JESUS CRY! |
| 01:48.29 | sakroot | Seb i make apt-get update |
| 01:48.29 | Seb | heheheh |
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| 01:48.34 | question | lol |
| 01:48.34 | MerlinCorey | SharkY: #flood |
| 01:48.50 | rich_ | toresbe can you sing and play at the same time? |
| 01:49.01 | HydroSan | Random link: http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=Bastards&btnG=Google+Search&meta= |
| 01:49.04 | SharkY | Ok :-) sorry |
| 01:49.05 | toresbe | Shouldn't that be "VAGUENESS MAKES THE RELATIVE OF A POPULAR DEITY EXPRESS AN EMOTION!" |
| 01:49.16 | SharkY | Seb: #flood |
| 01:49.17 | LinkInWinXP | MerlinCorey: do you know how to fix my problem? |
| 01:49.21 | toresbe | rich_: Probably - none have lyrics. |
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| 01:49.37 | sakroot | Seb and i make apt-get install gcc-3.3 of sarge |
| 01:49.41 | xam | toresbe: what about people who don't believe in a deity? |
| 01:49.43 | rich_ | toresbe Its hard to sing and play at the same time. |
| 01:49.46 | maher | xam: that's so - but i send you a one line double free fix, which you accept, but you could reject it and fix the double free essentially the same way - so how do we tell the difference? |
| 01:49.52 | Seb | sakroot: describe your problem in one line please |
| 01:50.01 | rich_ | especially without lyrics |
| 01:50.05 | toresbe | rich_: Super Mario Land Overworld Theme, Super Mario Land Underwater Theme, Super Mario Land 3 Overworld Theme 2, and Mozart's Turkish March |
| 01:50.07 | sakroot | Seb i can't install ultimate version of gcc of sarge |
| 01:50.19 | sakroot | Seb gcc-3.3 |
| 01:50.26 | toresbe | xam: Well, I was being vague :P |
| 01:50.27 | Seb | apt, tell sakroot about sicco |
| 01:50.30 | Seb | apt, tell sakroot about bts |
| 01:50.35 | Seb | damn |
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| 01:50.56 | SharkY | any sugestion? |
| 01:51.13 | Seb | SharkY: what does mount say ? Paste only the line for the fs you're interested in |
| 01:51.21 | MerlinCorey | LinkInWinXP: well, I can't see your error any longer, but hey, install a few until it works :P |
| 01:51.21 | Seb | SharkY: mount on the client |
| 01:51.35 | sakroot | dpkg -l gcc-3.3 in sarge |
| 01:51.35 | dpkg | No packages found matching gcc-3.3 in sarge |
| 01:51.36 | sakroot | ii gcc-3.3 3.3.4-6sarge1 The GNU C compiler |
| 01:51.36 | LinkInWinXP | MerlinCorey: yeah im trying heh:) |
| 01:51.41 | MerlinCorey | LinkInWinXP: X isn't my place of most experience, anyway... I mostly run servers and such that are headless... |
| 01:51.47 | LinkInWinXP | yay no more error |
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| 01:51.55 | Seb | sakroot: so it's installed, then what ? |
| 01:51.56 | MerlinCorey | LinkInWinXP: congratulations :) |
| 01:51.59 | LinkInWinXP | MerlinCorey: i just installed all of the en_us ones lol and no more error :)) |
| 01:52.04 | MerlinCorey | lol |
| 01:52.05 | MerlinCorey | :) |
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| 01:52.06 | SharkY | Seb, i can mount on the client but ro |
| 01:52.09 | sakroot | why i can't install ultimate version of sarge? (3.3.4-6sarge1.2) |
| 01:52.10 | SharkY | read only |
| 01:52.10 | toresbe | rich_: I just played Obladi Oblada and sung SO HAH! :P |
| 01:52.17 | Seb | SharkY: look bro, paste that mount line |
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| 01:52.28 | sakroot | Seb ? |
| 01:52.29 | Linkis_Naes | okay its working :) |
| 01:52.33 | MerlinCorey | Linkis_Naes: get your audio up yet..? |
| 01:52.38 | Linkis_Naes | no ill work on that now |
| 01:52.39 | Seb | SharkY: mount | grep yourfs |
| 01:52.45 | Linkis_Naes | i msgd that guy |
| 01:52.46 | Linkis_Naes | or bot |
| 01:52.49 | MerlinCorey | bot... |
| 01:52.54 | Seb | sakroot: what THA FUCK is the problem you have ? |
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| 01:53.05 | MerlinCorey | Seb: yeah, stick it to him :) |
| 01:53.08 | Seb | sakroot: the line you pasted indicates that gcc-3.3 is installed |
| 01:53.10 | sakroot | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:53.17 | Linkis_Naes | lol |
| 01:53.18 | MerlinCorey | Virusmaster: no, we don't need any, thanks ^^; |
| 01:53.26 | rich_ | toresbe Well thats good. If you do that all the time its probably good practice. |
| 01:53.33 | Seb | sakroot: apt-cache search gcc-3.4 |
| 01:53.47 | Linkis_Naes | it says modconf command not found |
| 01:53.48 | Linkis_Naes | MerlinCorey: |
| 01:53.50 | sakroot | Seb gcc-3.3 is trouble |
| 01:53.55 | Virusmaster | MerlinCorey: what? |
| 01:53.58 | MerlinCorey | Linkis_Naes: so apt-get it... |
| 01:54.01 | Linkis_Naes | oh |
| 01:54.03 | MerlinCorey | :) |
| 01:54.09 | MerlinCorey | Linkis_Naes: apt-get is useful, eh..? |
| 01:54.16 | Linkis_Naes | yes :) |
| 01:54.22 | Linkis_Naes | i wasnt sure what to do thanks :) |
| 01:54.26 | Seb | sakroot: dude, either you become concise and precise in your next line, or you find someone else to help you |
| 01:54.28 | SharkY | Seb: 192.168.1.2://mnt/hdb1 on /mnt/sharky type nfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,addr=192.168.1.2,user=daniel) |
| 01:54.37 | Seb | sakroot: maybe finding a debian channel in your native language could help, too |
| 01:54.42 | MerlinCorey | Linkis_Naes: oh, actually, that's a root command, as well... |
| 01:54.43 | Seb | SharkY: so it's RW |
| 01:54.45 | MerlinCorey | Linkis_Naes: I do believe... |
| 01:54.53 | Linkis_Naes | MerlinCorey: yeah i logged in as su |
| 01:54.59 | bytecolor | is there a way to redirect the output of say /list to a local file, with ircII? |
| 01:55.09 | MerlinCorey | Linkis_Naes: generally if someone tells you to run a command and it says not found, it either isn't on your system or you don't have proper privelages for it yet :) |
| 01:55.17 | Linkis_Naes | MerlinCorey: oh okay :) |
| 01:55.24 | Seb | SharkY: now that've lost that much time, how about you tell us why you think this FS is mounted RO ? |
| 01:55.36 | Seb | SharkY: say, as an exercise |
| 01:55.37 | Linkis_Naes | MerlinCorey: well it says to "load my driver" but i have no clue where it is or what to load exactly |
| 01:55.55 | SharkY | seb:i cant copy anything to my nfs drive |
| 01:55.56 | xam | maher: a bug-fix is something different; it is a grey area. As a submitter of a simple bug-fix you don't have the copyright to the original code, and you do not *implement* a new idea/feature. However if the bug-fix is something that changes the design or the implementation changes significantly enough (eg. it was not meant to work that way, but the bug-fix does now something differnet which makes it work), then it is a new contribution ... |
| 01:55.58 | Seb | Linkis_Naes: apt-get install modutils, but I doubt you don't have that already |
| 01:56.01 | Linkis_Naes | MerlinCorey: okay i think i might ave found it |
| 01:56.03 | MerlinCorey | Linkis_Naes: it'll probably be alsa or ac*... |
| 01:56.15 | toresbe | rich_: How the heck do you expect me to sing along to "Turkish March"? :D |
| 01:56.17 | Linkis_Naes | what about kernel/sound/pci/emu10k1? |
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| 01:56.22 | Seb | SharkY: so it's a permissions problem then |
| 01:56.33 | Seb | SharkY: because, as you now agree, this FS *is* mounted RW |
| 01:56.37 | Seb | right ? |
| 01:56.39 | elPepo | how do I can see informatiob about some installed package ? |
| 01:56.43 | Linkis_Naes | Seb: did he mean ntfs? |
| 01:56.53 | Seb | Linkis_Naes: no, he menas NFS |
| 01:56.55 | SharkY | Seb: but i chown -R daniel.daniel /mnt |
| 01:56.56 | Linkis_Naes | oh k |
| 01:56.58 | toresbe | rich_: "obla-obladi, obla-oblada, obla, obla, oblaoblaoblaobladaa..."? :D |
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| 01:57.18 | Seb | SharkY: ls -l /the/dir/you/try/to/copy/to |
| 01:57.21 | xam | maher: just check the kernel logs, and you'll see that if the bug-fix was 'interesting enough', they always give the credits to the person that submitted it |
| 01:57.21 | Seb | SharkY: ls -ld /the/dir/you/try/to/copy/to |
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| 01:57.27 | sakroot | Seb spanshot in sarge in package gcc-3.3 is 1:3.3.4-6sarge1.2 but i can' t install this version, because apt-get install gcc i say me " Reading Package Lists... Done |
| 01:57.27 | sakroot | Building Dependency Tree... Done |
| 01:57.27 | sakroot | gcc-3.3 is already the newest version. |
| 01:57.41 | mveas | hi |
| 01:57.42 | Linkis_Naes | Does anybody know what driver i should load in modconf to get my sound working?: |
| 01:57.47 | Linkis_Naes | i have a soundblaster audigy 2 |
| 01:57.50 | sakroot | Seb and i have 3.3.4-6sarge1 |
| 01:57.56 | Seb | sakroot: what is spanshot ? |
| 01:57.58 | xam | maher: this is not only because the kernel-developers think it is nice, but because they are obligated to do so. |
| 01:58.00 | Seb | sakroot: what is your native language ? |
| 01:58.10 | mveas | i need answer for a cuestions |
| 01:58.17 | Seb | Linkis_Naes: do you run a debian kernel ? |
| 01:58.20 | mveas | for debian |
| 01:58.20 | Seb | mveas: no shit ? |
| 01:58.23 | Linkis_Naes | Seb: i dont know |
| 01:58.25 | sakroot | Seb jjaja spanish |
| 01:58.29 | Linkis_Naes | Seb: i dont think so |
| 01:58.29 | Seb | mveas: how about asking directly ? |
| 01:58.32 | MerlinCorey | Linkis_Naes: well, I have an older soundblaster and I use kernel/sound/ac97 ... |
| 01:58.33 | Seb | Linkis_Naes: uname -a ? |
| 01:58.38 | Linkis_Naes | sec |
| 01:58.41 | SharkY | Seb: drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 2004-09-06 02:21 sharky |
| 01:58.55 | maher | xam: yeah - but there is a difference between credit and enforceable copyright - i guess ultimately it will be up to the judiciary to decide in a given case - i have no idea if this has ever been tested |
| 01:58.55 | Seb | Linkis_Naes: did you compile your own kernel after installing debian ? |
| 01:58.56 | MerlinCorey | errr... |
| 01:58.57 | Seb | SharkY: see |
| 01:59.01 | sakroot | Seb snapshot |
| 01:59.02 | Linkis_Naes | Seb: yes i think so |
| 01:59.03 | SharkY | Seb: root :-) But with root i can't copy too |
| 01:59.06 | MerlinCorey | Linkis_Naes: kernel/sound/pci/ac97 |
| 01:59.06 | Linkis_Naes | seb OH wait no |
| 01:59.15 | Linkis_Naes | Seb: i just downloaded an installed it |
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| 01:59.25 | Seb | Linkis_Naes: k, then apt-get install sndconfig and run that |
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| 01:59.31 | Linkis_Naes | ok |
| 01:59.34 | Linkis_Naes | thanks MerlinCorey |
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| 01:59.40 | Guerin | sakroot: anything in your /etc/apt/preferences file? Is gcc on hold using set-selections? Have you done apt-get update? Do you have the correct sources in your list? |
| 01:59.54 | Guerin | nooo |
| 01:59.57 | Guerin | not sndconfig |
| 01:59.58 | SharkY | Seb: cp: cannot create regular file `sharky/fstab': Permission denied |
| 01:59.59 | Seb | sakroot: gcc -v |
| 02:00.08 | Seb | SharkY: paste me the cp line too |
| 02:00.19 | sakroot | Seb Thread model: posix |
| 02:00.20 | sakroot | gcc version 3.3.4 (Debian 1:3.3.4-6sarge1) |
| 02:00.33 | sakroot | Guerin my sources it's ok |
| 02:00.35 | SharkY | Seb: Dolphin:/mnt# cp /etc/fstab sharky/ |
| 02:01.07 | Seb | sakroot: so it is 3.3.4 isn't it ? |
| 02:01.09 | Linkis_Naes | Seb: thats for legacy cards it says... |
| 02:01.10 | reality | INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: Exec of "java_vm" failed: 2 |
| 02:01.12 | reality | good god |
| 02:01.14 | Linkis_Naes | Seb: mines very new |
| 02:01.15 | reality | someone shoot me |
| 02:01.30 | Guerin | !shoot reality |
| 02:01.37 | Linkis_Naes | whoa |
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| 02:01.58 | reality | Guerin, thanks, but you didnt kill me :/ |
| 02:01.59 | MerlinCorey | Linkis_Naes: just do what dpkg told you for sound and audio... |
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| 02:02.04 | Seb | Guerin: why not ? |
| 02:02.09 | Guerin | reality: you didn't ask to be killed |
| 02:02.11 | SharkY | reality: try to add deb http://www-users.cs.umn.edu/~sdier/debian updates/wup/ to your sources.list |
| 02:02.16 | Guerin | !sndconfig |
| 02:02.17 | dpkg | sndconfig is probably a Red Hat tool used by Red Hat tools. Ask me about "audio". |
| 02:02.18 | rovragge | when I use nvtv for setting up my TV display in Xfree86, I have a 800x600 window panning 1600x1200.. how do i temporarily disable panning? or how do I atleast in a script pan to the upper left corner? |
| 02:02.21 | Linkis_Naes | MerlinCorey: well i opened that folder thing and it gives me 2 entries one with a + and one with a _ |
| 02:02.23 | Linkis_Naes | - |
| 02:02.26 | SharkY | reality and install java using apt |
| 02:02.35 | Guerin | Seb: alsaconfig is the tool of choice |
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| 02:02.37 | SharkY | reality: j2re |
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| 02:02.39 | Guerin | err, alsaconf |
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| 02:02.49 | MerlinCorey | Linkis_Naes: the one with a + is already installed... |
| 02:02.55 | MerlinCorey | Linkis_Naes: so now go to the next step... |
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| 02:02.57 | Linkis_Naes | MerlinCorey: yup |
| 02:02.59 | maher | SharkY: ls -ld /sharky |
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| 02:03.04 | Linkis_Naes | the next step in dpkg? |
| 02:03.26 | MerlinCorey | Linkis_Naes: yes, adduser yourusername sound |
| 02:03.29 | Linkis_Naes | says im already a member heh |
| 02:03.33 | MerlinCorey | errr... |
| 02:03.35 | Linkis_Naes | i did "audio" |
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| 02:03.36 | SharkY | maher: drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 2004-09-06 02:21 sharky/ |
| 02:03.37 | MerlinCorey | audio, even... |
| 02:03.54 | Seb | SharkY: do it with full paths please |
| 02:03.55 | MerlinCorey | Linkis_Naes: now get a mixer... |
| 02:04.00 | Linkis_Naes | okay |
| 02:04.05 | MerlinCorey | Linkis_Naes: as sound starts off muted and low :) |
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| 02:04.13 | Linkis_Naes | apt-get instal aumix? |
| 02:04.18 | Guerin | alsamixer |
| 02:04.21 | MerlinCorey | if that's the one you want :) |
| 02:04.26 | Linkis_Naes | alsamixer instead? |
| 02:04.36 | MerlinCorey | Linkis_Naes: whichever you want, so long as it works... |
| 02:04.40 | SharkY | Seb: drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 2004-09-06 02:21 /mnt/sharky/ |
| 02:04.43 | Linkis_Naes | alsamixer didnt apt |
| 02:04.43 | MerlinCorey | Linkis_Naes: there's like 20... |
| 02:04.51 | Linkis_Naes | apt-get install alsamixer didnt work |
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| 02:04.52 | MerlinCorey | Linkis_Naes: apt-cache search alsamix |
| 02:04.53 | Guerin | it's in alsa-utils |
| 02:04.54 | Linkis_Naes | k |
| 02:05.03 | Seb | SharkY: so, now, as root, touch /mnt/sharky/test doesn't work ? |
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| 02:05.16 | Linkis_Naes | alsamixergui or gnome-alsamixer? |
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| 02:05.39 | SharkY | Seb: touch: cannot touch `/mnt/sharky/test': Permission denied |
| 02:05.44 | Guerin | just alsamixer |
| 02:05.49 | Seb | SharkY: hmmmmmm |
| 02:05.50 | SharkY | Seb, i'm using root |
| 02:05.50 | Linkis_Naes | k |
| 02:05.54 | Guerin | Linkis_Naes: run it from a gdmf console prompt |
| 02:05.56 | Linkis_Naes | okay now what |
| 02:05.58 | zbowlin1 | i remember having a hotmail account in 1995 |
| 02:06.04 | Seb | SharkY: mount | grep /mnt |
| 02:06.08 | zbowlin1 | it was the bomb... |
| 02:06.13 | Linkis_Naes | alsamixer is istalled |
| 02:06.24 | Seb | zbowlin1: the mail bomb ? |
| 02:06.26 | Linkis_Naes | hotmail is alright... |
| 02:06.29 | Linkis_Naes | its good for junkmail |
| 02:06.31 | Linkis_Naes | :) |
| 02:06.41 | SharkY | Seb, i'm asking here because i try averything i now and i can't correct this |
| 02:07.04 | Linkis_Naes | dang it |
| 02:07.06 | Seb | SharkY: mount | grep /mnt |
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| 02:07.07 | SharkY | Seb, in flood |
| 02:07.08 | Linkis_Naes | do i need to reboot? |
| 02:07.15 | Linkis_Naes | says some function is messed up |
| 02:07.19 | Seb | SharkY: again |
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| 02:07.28 | Seb | Linkis_Naes: no reboot is necessary |
| 02:07.33 | Guerin | !reboot |
| 02:07.34 | dpkg | Unlike many proprietary operating systems, GNU/Linux almost never requires a reboot to change something. Most changes take effect immediately; occasionally, you may need to log out and log back in, or restart a particular service. However, unless you are changing kernels or hardware, you should not need to reboot. |
| 02:07.42 | Seb | MerlinCorey: http://gmail-is-too-creepy.com/ |
| 02:07.42 | Linkis_Naes | alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default. No such file or directory |
| 02:07.42 | zbowlin1 | hotmail 1995 was cool.. 10 mbs, very simple service... free email for those of us that used corporate ras dialup vpn systems to get to the internet and wanted a non work email |
| 02:08.01 | Linkis_Naes | gmail keeps your msgs even if you delete them |
| 02:08.02 | Seb | SharkY: dude, it's mounted too many times |
| 02:08.30 | SharkY | Seb, i know :-) |
| 02:08.31 | Guerin | Linkis_Naes: sounds to me like youn have some oss modules loaded with your alsa modules, or don't have all the correct alsa modules loaded. |
| 02:08.32 | Seb | SharkY: for i in `seq 10` ; do sudo umount /mnt/sharky ; done |
| 02:08.44 | Linkis_Naes | this is complicated heh..sound aint working |
| 02:08.45 | MerlinCorey | Seb: you can delete things if you want, and it'll be nice if their 1gig storage makes other providers up space; I mean, like Linkis_Naes said - hard drive space is cheat these days :) |
| 02:08.59 | MerlinCorey | Linkis_Naes: did you unmute and turn it up..? |
| 02:09.03 | Seb | MerlinCorey: you haven't read that link. When you do 'delete', it doesn't delete it |
| 02:09.04 | Linkis_Naes | it wont even load |
| 02:09.05 | exobyte | What's the best way to disable logging in as some account? I think I just want to remove the password hash |
| 02:09.08 | Linkis_Naes | alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default. No such file or directory |
| 02:09.08 | SharkY | Seb, but i unmout to retry |
| 02:09.17 | MerlinCorey | Seb: I'm not finished reading it yet, nope... |
| 02:09.20 | Seb | SharkY: DO IT |
| 02:09.22 | Seb | MerlinCorey: ok :) |
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| 02:09.56 | Linkis_Naes | what do i do |
| 02:09.58 | Linkis_Naes | :) |
| 02:10.01 | MerlinCorey | Linkis_Naes: try a different one... I use wmmixer... |
| 02:10.04 | zbowlin1 | gmail can be creapy but you can always encrypt with PGP over gmail :-) |
| 02:10.04 | Linkis_Naes | k |
| 02:10.30 | nokde | Hi all I am having a problem with kde and this irc console thing is BAD! My problem is with the /usr/x11r6/lib//x11/xinit/xserverrc is has a problem in line two line two says exec us <forget that here it is "/usr/bin/x11/X there is nothing called X in x11 so I think that is the problem but don`t know how to fix it. Help? Sry if I don`t sound nice I can not look over my msg in this chat thing or see what I am typing very well but help please |
| 02:10.30 | nokde | Thanks![D[D[D |
| 02:10.44 | Linkis_Naes | okay get this little box |
| 02:10.56 | Seb | nokde: apt-get install x-window-system |
| 02:11.08 | nokde | Seb thanks |
| 02:11.22 | Seb | SharkY: so ? |
| 02:11.23 | Linkis_Naes | MerlinCorey: okay this is up and runnig but how do i make it play sound |
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| 02:11.49 | SharkY | Seb, Done! |
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| 02:12.03 | Seb | SharkY: paste again. ANd paste the command along with it as well |
| 02:12.23 | HydroSan | Anyone point me to a link that shows me how to use update-env.d again? It's been so long since I've added anything. |
| 02:12.23 | MerlinCorey | Seb: which is why I deny google cookies ^^; |
| 02:12.39 | Seb | MerlinCorey: good :) |
| 02:12.48 | Seb | HydroSan: apt-get install file-rc |
| 02:12.52 | Seb | HydroSan: you won't regret it |
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| 02:13.09 | MerlinCorey | Linkis_Naes: well, make sure the volume is indeed up, and have some sound playing program play a sound... like xmms with an mp3 or something... |
| 02:13.15 | Linkis_Naes | okay |
| 02:13.21 | tcsetattr | rcconf - even simpler than file-rc |
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| 02:13.26 | |stefan_| | is there a replacement package in debian if i want to install an mta that isn't packaged ? |
