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| 00:00.21 | g4lt | bobryan ntpdate does that |
| 00:00.21 | bobryan | thanks |
| 00:00.24 | derek_ | Hi, how do i change a user |
| 00:00.29 | kidaz | Anyone use ExpoCity? I am trying to find a .deb package |
| 00:00.37 | nvs | derek_: In which way? |
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| 00:00.48 | justin | linux binaries can be as portable as windows binaries, just install 2Gigs of compatibility dlls like windows does in a default install;) |
| 00:00.50 | derek_ | i just installed gnome and it won't let me login so im guessing i need to assign it to a group or recreate it |
| 00:00.51 | croepha | g4lt: which is what i am allways tring to do |
| 00:00.55 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: later |
| 00:01.04 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: coolness :) |
| 00:01.07 | justin | derek_: it? |
| 00:01.22 | derek_ | qdm |
| 00:01.25 | derek_ | wdm |
| 00:01.33 | g4lt | !tell derek_ about xwrapper |
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| 00:02.25 | croepha | nvs, theoretically, if you had the CVS source of all the libraries you could generate library binarys for any version |
| 00:02.31 | derek_ | ty |
| 00:02.32 | croepha | right?? |
| 00:02.42 | jeaneid | I have a problem with xscreensaver. It uses the full power of the cpu. Does anyone know a fix to this |
| 00:02.57 | croepha | jeaneid: nice |
| 00:03.00 | abrotman | stop using opengl screensavers? |
| 00:03.11 | nvs | croepha: Or you link the libraries statically into your program (which is not recommended by the way) |
| 00:03.13 | croepha | jeaneid: or renice |
| 00:03.18 | Objeto | can I create links folders in ftp shared folders? |
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| 00:03.54 | g4lt | Objeto yeah, but it kind of destroys the chroot environment |
| 00:04.28 | Objeto | I've got a lot of files that I want to share via ftp |
| 00:04.31 | jeaneid | thanks |
| 00:04.34 | croepha | nvs: i know, but my goal was to be able to run any kind of binary ( even if i had no control over its creation ) on any system, any where |
| 00:04.38 | Objeto | so how can I share them without moving them to the ftp folder |
| 00:05.07 | Objeto | I've created a link with ln -s but when I try to access it via ftp it says no such file or di |
| 00:05.08 | Objeto | dir |
| 00:05.20 | g4lt | Objeto the problem is that any symlink out of a chroot is a possible path out for an attacker |
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| 00:05.44 | Objeto | oh |
| 00:06.15 | T_VoiD | the other problem is any symlink out of a chroot just doesn't work |
| 00:06.30 | Objeto | yes I just figured out that |
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| 00:06.45 | Objeto | T_VoiD what can I do ? I don't want to copy the whole directory to the shared folder |
| 00:07.01 | T_VoiD | Objeto: Objeto if it's only 1 dir you can mount it with mount --bind |
| 00:07.10 | g4lt | T_VoiD they finally "fixed" that? |
| 00:07.41 | T_VoiD | g4lt: no, symlink have never worked out of a chroot, for as long chroot has been existing heh (like 20 years?) |
| 00:08.11 | T_VoiD | g4lt: hard link would work except you're not supposed to hard link a dir, only a file, and it has to be in the same filesystem too |
| 00:08.13 | PerfDave | Objeto: Move the files into the chroot, symlink to them from where they originially were? |
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| 00:10.55 | T_VoiD | Objeto: mount --bind is the nearest to hardlinking a directory without the bad side effects (side effect would be, what is the parent of this dir since it's in two places? so where should I point ".." ?) |
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| 00:12.55 | t-jack | Anyone know if audigyls is available for Debian yet? If only unofficially? |
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| 00:13.40 | t-jack | I have no desire to recompile my kernel from sources. |
| 00:13.47 | robit | t-jack, apt-cache search? |
| 00:14.03 | npx | t-jack: amen borther, that's so 1999 |
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| 00:14.21 | robit | t-jack, download an image? |
| 00:14.25 | greycat | custom kernels were pretty much required to use woody effectively |
| 00:14.38 | rares000 | anyone know a good source of instrument samples |
| 00:14.39 | greycat | with sarge, the kernel images are actually up to date *for now*. |
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| 00:15.15 | T_VoiD | rares000: timidity-patches |
| 00:15.20 | t-jack | greycat: and with Sid? |
| 00:15.32 | npx | If I package a piece of software and I'd like to have it included in debian, what do I do? |
| 00:15.50 | greycat | t-jack: with sid, you're on your own. |
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| 00:16.13 | npx | t-jack: I'm using kernel-image-2.6.8-1-k7 with sid with no problems at all |
| 00:16.22 | rares000 | T_Void can timidity patches be used with cheesetracker? |
| 00:16.26 | npx | Loving it. |
| 00:16.52 | T_VoiD | rares000: no idea. they are midi instruments to play midi files, maybe there are tools to convert |
| 00:17.06 | t-jack | Bah. Well, I got the same, still cannot find the driver. |
| 00:17.17 | rares000 | what about freepats |
| 00:17.20 | Objeto | I've got this 'ro,user,users,auto' on fstab for my windows partition, but I still can't access to that partition from any user |
| 00:17.23 | Objeto | only with root |
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| 00:17.42 | t-jack | greycat: Should've guessed that. |
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| 00:18.08 | npx | t-jack: You might compile a kernel with the appropriate drivers with make-kpkg and share the juarez =) |
| 00:18.15 | Objeto | any idea? |
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| 00:18.31 | greycat | !any ideas |
| 00:18.31 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a drawer full of string, a little K-Y jelly, and 42 three-legged platypuses. And keep the KGB off my back for the next few minutes! |
| 00:18.44 | greycat | Objeto: you forgot umask=022 |
| 00:18.47 | guestish | mentor: i think KDE is back in testing |
| 00:18.56 | guestish | !dbugs #269380 |
| 00:18.57 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@*.kabel.telenet.be] by mentor |
| 00:18.59 | dpkg | DONE:#269380:G[kde] kde: Most of KDE packages are lost |
| 00:19.11 | npx | hahaha that was the best dpkg saying ever |
| 00:19.20 | *** mode/#debian [-o mentor] by ChanServ |
| 00:19.28 | *** mode/#debian [+o mentor] by ChanServ |
| 00:19.30 | ralfWORK | ok next question |
| 00:19.45 | batbeak | what's the library for the clipboard? |
| 00:19.48 | t-jack | Darwin has sure done a number on the platypus... |
| 00:20.05 | ralfWORK | does anyone happen to be using the ipv6 debian packages from http://debian.seabone.net/? |
| 00:20.11 | mentor | READ THE FAQ: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ | READ THE BTS: /msg dpkg bts | Paste in #flood NOT here | /msg bots NOT people | Debian is NOT Knoppix | sarge Base+Standard is now frozen; RC1 installer: /msg dpkg d-i | BROKEN: libapr0 (#266165) | FIXED: kdelibs4 (#266504), gcc (#268338), kde missing (#269380) | SECURITY: READ YOUR DSA! |
| 00:20.23 | mentor | !"£!£%$£%^^%* |
| 00:20.28 | *** topic/#debian by mentor -> READ THE FAQ: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ | READ THE BTS: /msg dpkg bts | Paste in #flood NOT here | /msg bots NOT people | Debian is NOT Knoppix | sarge Base+Standard is now frozen; RC1 installer: /msg dpkg d-i | BROKEN: libapr0 (#266165) | FIXED: kdelibs4 (#266504), gcc (#268338), kde missing (#269380) | SECURITY: READ YOUR DSA! |
| 00:20.32 | t-jack | !clueless |
| 00:20.33 | dpkg | it has been said that clueless is a thread long ago in debian-devel, "stupid users are bad for debian", or http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/1999/debian-devel-199903/msg02288.html |
| 00:20.45 | mentor | topicdiff: kde fixed |
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| 00:21.02 | mentor | !kick t-jack |
| 00:21.16 | Objeto | greycat : still the same |
| 00:21.37 | edrx | is there a way to make apt-get download the deb for an _installed_ package to /var/cache/apt/archives/ - or at least report its location on the web? |
| 00:21.54 | greycat | Objeto: give details. show the actual permissions of the relevant directory AFTER mounting, and tell us what you're trying to do, and what error you get. |
| 00:22.32 | edrx | btw: "apt-get -d install xxx" doesn't work (of course). |
| 00:23.22 | Objeto | greycat : permissions after mounting : dr-x------, options in fstab: ntfs umask=022,ro,user,auto, I want to *read* that directory with any user |
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| 00:23.47 | greycat | Objeto: somehow you're mounting that file system with umask 277. |
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| 00:24.05 | greycat | Objeto: did you umount it and then re-mount it after editing fstab? |
| 00:24.12 | robit | i can ping my gw ,i can ping the adsl modem ,but i cant reach outside so what i should do? |
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| 00:24.32 | g4lt | mentor thsat was done hours ago by dondelelcaro |
| 00:24.39 | npx | robit, set the default route |
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| 00:25.00 | g4lt | ...but thanks anyways |
| 00:25.01 | robit | npx,its set |
| 00:25.22 | robit | on eth1 i have dhcp from the adsl modem |
| 00:25.54 | g4lt | robit you want both your eth09 and eth1 to go to the same network?! |
| 00:26.02 | npx | Are you trying to setup NAT? |
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| 00:26.07 | Objeto | greycat : yes I did re-mount it |
| 00:26.11 | robit | npx, yep |
| 00:26.27 | robit | eth1 --dhcp---server--subnet |
| 00:26.34 | npx | robit, are you using the ipmasq package? |
| 00:26.50 | robit | yes |
| 00:27.22 | simonrvn | g4lt: yes, in fact you can do that. foo bar- |
| 00:27.28 | npx | robit, so let's say your desktop is 192.168.0.2 and your router is 192.168.0.1, can you ping 192.168.0.1? |
| 00:27.39 | robit | yes |
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| 00:28.00 | robit | i can even ping after that |
| 00:28.20 | npx | robit, try route add default gw <router> on the desktop |
| 00:28.33 | g4lt | simonrvn I know you can nuke on apt-get install, I was just thinking of the most obscene use of switches to apt-get ;P |
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| 00:29.04 | simonrvn | g4lt: yeh, hehe, it can be confusing to someone not used to using apt-get that way ;) |
| 00:29.15 | greycat | and: help [ |
| 00:29.17 | greycat | bah. |
| 00:29.22 | robit | still nothing |
| 00:29.56 | simonrvn | grr, why is my conn super fucking slow!?! 45 min to download 100 mb |
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| 00:30.24 | g4lt | simonrvn that sucks, 8 seconds should be the max time ;P |
| 00:30.57 | simonrvn | g4lt: nah, it just acting wonky, my max is something around 300 kB/s, and it's at 68 right now |
| 00:31.16 | duende | simonrvn: maybe it's the server your downloading from? |
| 00:31.24 | t-jack | "What the motherfucking 9 hells is wrong that people with vastly more experience than I cannot create a audigyls pkg AFTER THREEE YEARS... |
| 00:31.28 | spyman | invite gmail? |
| 00:31.28 | guestish | mentor: do you know the estimated release date from the time sarge froze? |
| 00:31.29 | simonrvn | duende: no, it's a debian mirror |
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| 00:32.01 | guestish | !dbugs 266165 |
| 00:32.04 | dpkg | DONE:#266165:S[libapr0] new version causes Subversion to segfault (fixed) [#266330] |
| 00:32.11 | simonrvn | sarge didn't freeze entirely, just base+standard |
| 00:32.17 | guestish | simonrvn: oh |
| 00:32.41 | guestish | can someone change the topic? #266165 is fixed |
| 00:32.59 | simonrvn | @fix #266165 |
| 00:33.12 | guestish | lol |
| 00:33.16 | T_VoiD | t-jack: offer to send a card, I'm sure that will help |
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| 00:33.32 | simonrvn | getting better, tcp wins. 23 m |
| 00:33.37 | t-jack | T_VoiD: grrrr |
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| 00:33.58 | simonrvn | t-jack: dude, ease up on the caffeine :P |
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| 00:34.40 | t-jack | simonrvn: oop! er, not caffeine... cider and mead. ;) |
| 00:34.47 | simonrvn | heh |
| 00:34.48 | mentor | guestish: The RM has an estimated time in his last announcement on the subject. |
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| 00:38.13 | zeeeee | quetsion: anybody know how to change the CLI resolution? |
| 00:38.48 | t-jack | simonrvn: seriously... I think my sbLive! soundcard blew up. I tryed plugging in a subwoofer, then everything randomly froze and I had to reboot. Freezing extended eventually to BIOS itself. I changed back to audigyls and now everything's all lovey-dovey. |
| 00:38.52 | simonrvn | if you're using an fb driver, you can use fbset |
| 00:39.10 | simonrvn | t-jack: whoah |
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| 00:39.24 | zeeeee | fb driver? |
| 00:39.32 | simonrvn | framebuffer |
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| 00:40.05 | simonrvn | and to set it more permanently, set it up in the append= line in your bootloader conf |
| 00:40.12 | zeeeee | i don't seem to have fbset...but i know it's possible because booting into the first kernel i installed gives me a higher res than the booting into the one i just compiled |
| 00:40.15 | T_VoiD | zeeeee: and if you're not using fb you can use the vga= kernel param at boot (and the 1st time vga=ask ) |
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| 00:40.29 | zeeeee | t_void: ah that's probably it |
| 00:40.36 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 00:40.38 | guestish | mentor: i dont think i have that link |
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| 00:41.07 | swoop | anyone know of the testing net install iso has support for e1000 module card? |
| 00:41.11 | simonrvn | !listvals sarge release |
| 00:41.12 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'sarge release' by value (2 shown): xorg ;; sarge losers 2. |
| 00:41.20 | guestish | !xorg |
| 00:41.20 | dpkg | from memory, xorg is an alternative X implementation (a fork of XFree86 4.4RC2) from the X.Org Foundation - the current release is X11R6.7. It will not be packaged for Debian until after the Sarge release. At that time, Debian will probably go with the new modular packages of X.org, if it is ready, or the monolithic release if not. See http://people.debian.org/~terpstra/message/20040712.051027.74293658.html for more information . |
| 00:41.21 | abrotman | !sarge stable |
| 00:41.21 | dpkg | Sarge will be stable when it's ready. There is still no final date, but there is a tentative release date of 2004/09/15. See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2004/08/msg00001.html |
| 00:41.23 | greycat | swoop: #debian-boot would know |
| 00:41.29 | simonrvn | there ya go |
| 00:41.39 | abrotman | simonrvn: i figured that's what you were looking for |
| 00:41.44 | simonrvn | abrotman: thanks |
| 00:41.46 | t-jack | simonrvn: Yeah, It degenerated to the point it wouldn't even boot, then suddenly bootstrap says that emu10k1 cannot get assigned an IRQ. even I knew then it was time to change soundcards. |
| 00:42.10 | simonrvn | t-jack: sounds like it just fried itself to a crisp |
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| 00:42.41 | zeeeee | t_void: where do i specify that? i just grepped all files in /boot and /etc and the only file with "vga=" was a binary called /boot/grub/stage2.... |
| 00:42.48 | t-jack | simonrvn: All because I tried plugging in a subwoofer... |
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| 00:43.02 | edrx | anyone knows how to get the uri of an _installed_ package in the repositories? "apt-get --print-uris install <packagename>" gives several uris, and only for packages that are not installed... |
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| 00:43.12 | T_VoiD | zeeeee: lilo.conf or alike |
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| 00:43.19 | greycat | edrx: add "--reinstall" to it |
| 00:43.33 | zeeeee | d'oh!! i have no lilo and couldn't find anything on 'vga' in 'man grub' |
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| 00:43.44 | simonrvn | t-jack: mmm, i don't think it caused that on its own. could be something in the subwoofer itself, the card, or somewhere else |
| 00:44.11 | T_VoiD | zeeeee: using vga=ext would give 80x50 instead of 80x25 , then there are plenty of other modes depending on your computer |
| 00:44.11 | greycat | "I have no lilo and I must scream" |
| 00:44.11 | t-jack | simonrvn: Maybe I better trash said subwoofer? |
| 00:44.11 | greycat | or should that be ... must boot? |
| 00:44.15 | T_VoiD | zeeeee: well the grub conf file. somewhere in /boot/grub |
| 00:44.18 | robit | so still with the same problem |
| 00:44.31 | hennewou | I'm searching for the best way to shut down the computer through icewm with a normal user. Which command should I use to shut down? |
| 00:44.34 | simonrvn | t-jack: i'd check if it got damaged somehow first, and fix it if you have the skills for it |
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| 00:44.47 | robit | i cant reach out from the subnet |
| 00:44.50 | zeeeee | greycat: people use '!' iff they're screaming? |
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| 00:45.09 | greycat | zeeeee: never mind. you missed the reference. |
| 00:45.13 | Genixpro | hello, i havew finally got debian, and installed it, so far everthing is going great, but once i installed xfree and kde something went wrong, when i use the enivroment, the system acts like im constantly holding down one of the mouse buttons, i cant tell which one, so its acting wiered, after research, i found its because my mouse is a ps/2 scroll mouse, but i dont know how to fix it |
| 00:45.19 | aida-night | where can I get the gnome 2.8 packages for debian experimental?? I saw the link somewhere 2 days ago |
| 00:45.22 | aida-night | can't find it now |
| 00:46.12 | t-jack | simonrvn: I unfortunately don't, and the only way I can think to troubleshoot it... Well, I don't even own an ohmmeter/voltmetewr. |
| 00:46.13 | simonrvn | aida-night: re-config your mouse dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 00:46.20 | aida-night | that message was for Genixpro |
| 00:46.28 | abrotman | aida-night: it's not released yet .. 2.8 doesn't come out for a few weeks |
| 00:46.32 | simonrvn | hrm, perl nmu upload |
| 00:46.54 | simonrvn | aida-night: no, it was for 2.7.x dev releases |
| 00:46.55 | aida-night | abrotman, I know.. but I thought there wer 2.8 RC1 packages available for debian |
| 00:46.57 | nvs | abrotman: Gnome 2.8 is almost out already?!? |
| 00:47.06 | aida-night | nvs: sep 15th |
| 00:47.08 | simonrvn | oh no.. |
| 00:47.11 | abrotman | aida-night: you need to ask #gnome-debian on irc.gnome.org |
| 00:47.20 | abrotman | nvs: gnome.org/start/2.7 iirc |
| 00:47.20 | aida-night | sweet thanks |
| 00:47.24 | nvs | abrotman: That's quick! (Since 2.6) |
| 00:47.38 | abrotman | nvs: well .. they are good :) |
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| 00:47.44 | simonrvn | nvs: they changed their release cycle |
| 00:47.53 | abrotman | September 15thSeptember 15th: 2.8.0 release! |
| 00:48.04 | abrotman | don't think they will make it . but we'll see |
| 00:48.23 | zeeeee | t_void: so these parameters are the same across all boot loaders like grub and lilo? |
| 00:48.29 | Genixpro | reconfigure xserverm, got it |
| 00:48.34 | T_VoiD | zeeeee: more or less yes |
| 00:48.37 | Genixpro | i hope that works tho |
| 00:48.43 | Waggie_ | Hey folks.. I need some help here, hopefully quickly.. I'm running courier-imap here, I add a new user to my system and I can't authenticate with the user until the next day.. There's NOTHING in my cron.daily that relates to courier, I'm not using virtual hosting, etc.. |
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| 00:48.49 | Waggie_ | Even a reboot doesn't help. |
| 00:49.04 | greycat | Waggie_: find the error logs and read 'em |
| 00:49.21 | Treatz | Does anyone have any extra server space hiding under their bed they might be able to host a project I am working on with? |
| 00:49.26 | scarynetworkguy | greycat: you mean you don't have to randomly reboot when you run a real OS? |
| 00:49.27 | Waggie_ | LOGIN FAILED.. Nothing any more useful than that. |
| 00:49.33 | abrotman | Treatz: what kind of project? |
| 00:49.44 | Treatz | abrotman, an Open Bible project. |
| 00:49.53 | abrotman | (and whats wrong with savannah,sf.net,etc) |
| 00:50.12 | scarynetworkguy | indeed indeed |
| 00:50.21 | Waggie_ | greycat: I can't believe that I'm the only one experiencing this problem, on *two* different servers.. |
| 00:50.31 | Treatz | abrotman, are any of those free? |
| 00:50.40 | g4lt | Waggie_ I'm sure you aren't, but the rest of them read the logs |
| 00:50.42 | scarynetworkguy | Waggie_: but you'll never know till you do the legwork will you? |
| 00:50.49 | scarynetworkguy | Treatz: all of them |
| 00:50.54 | Treatz | Ooh cool |
| 00:50.58 | abrotman | Treatz: yes .. all fo them |
| 00:51.02 | Treatz | I thought you had to pay for a project on sf.net |
| 00:51.05 | abrotman | nope |
| 00:51.13 | abrotman | but you're subject to thier terms |
| 00:51.20 | Aterlatus | I'm having trouble getting my system to boot from a RAID5 array using grub. The array seems to initialise fine and md appears to sucessfully autodetect the arrays, but then I get a "VFS: Cannot open root device md1 or unknown-block(0,0)" error followed by a kernel panic. Anyone got any ideas? I'm running on a 2.6.8 kernel with md and raid5 support compiled in. |
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| 00:51.40 | Waggie_ | The logs say (as I said before) only LOGIN FAILED, nothing else in mail.log, mail.err, or messages. |
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| 00:51.48 | Waggie_ | Any other log files I should know about? |
| 00:51.49 | greycat | Waggie_: nothing in auth.log? |
| 00:51.53 | Waggie_ | Ahh.. |
| 00:51.57 | greycat | Waggie_: you know how to use "ls -lart", right? |
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| 00:52.49 | Waggie_ | greycat: Authentication Failure |
| 00:53.01 | stew | Waggie_: you really will get much better logging from the newer version on backports |
| 00:53.24 | greycat | Waggie_: I'd also be on the lookout for PAM configs missing "md5" and so on. |
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| 00:53.38 | edrx | greycat: ok (example: "apt-get --print-uris --reinstall -d -y install nano") works fine for debs that are not in /var/cache/apt/archives/ . thanks :) |
| 00:54.09 | JDahl | I've been looking for pydb in Sarge, but it's not there. The package is in stable and in unstable - there is a grave functionality bug that is over 1 year old. Is a package is still considered ok for unstable with grave functionality bugs? and will I potentially break things if I try get unstable's version into my Sarge installation? |
| 00:55.02 | greycat | JDahl: the potential for breaking is quite real, but if you try it out, and it works, then great. |
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| 00:55.52 | Waggie_ | greycat: You are referring to /etc/pam.d/imap? |
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| 00:56.19 | greycat | Waggie_: if that exists, it's a great thing to check |
| 00:56.46 | Waggie_ | greycat: Where should "md5" be in here? |
| 00:56.47 | greycat | granted, the fact that I run it on openbsd has a bit to do with that... |
| 00:56.54 | greycat | Waggie_: compare to /etc/pam.d/login |
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| 00:57.53 | JDahl | do others here use pydb in sarge, and if so how did they get it? compiled the source themselves or just grabbed unstable's? |
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| 00:59.49 | group8 | in `aptitude' how do i get to arrange packages for which there is |
| 00:59.50 | group8 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:00.44 | Waggie_ | greycat: Ok.. There was no "md5" at the end of the password line.. I restarted courier-authdaemon and courier-imap, still no go.. I'm assuming I have to restart pam somehow? |
| 01:00.50 | Treatz | sf.net says they won't host my project |
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| 01:01.02 | Treatz | because it is more of a Open Content project than an Open Source project |
| 01:01.33 | greycat | Waggie_: no idea. try grabbing upstream source and building it. |
| 01:02.02 | greycat | (you don't "start" pam. it's a library, not a daedrmon) |
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| 01:02.10 | greycat | CTRL-d, dammit, not d. |
| 01:02.18 | greycat | I pressed CTRL! I swear! |
| 01:02.49 | Waggie_ | How do I get it PAM to re-read the configs in /etc/pam.d/? |
| 01:02.55 | troubled | greycat: booya |
| 01:03.03 | shwag__ | what is the debian equiv of rc-update add service default |
| 01:03.05 | greycat | !blame troubled |
| 01:03.12 | greycat | shwag__: man update-rc.d |
| 01:03.32 | abrotman | Treatz: what would openBible do? |
| 01:04.08 | g4lt | abrotman it's an opensource bible, natch ;P |
| 01:04.18 | Treatz | pretty much. |
| 01:04.18 | abrotman | !smack g4lt |
| 01:04.30 | greycat | g4lt: does that mean you get to do your own miracles and write about 'em? |
| 01:04.32 | abrotman | Treatz: but what is the point? .. the bible is a public work .. no? |
| 01:04.39 | Treatz | All I have done so far is the webpage for the project and the bible transliterated into l33t speak |
| 01:04.42 | Waggie_ | Crap.. I can't do this today. |
| 01:04.45 | Waggie_ | Bye folks. |
| 01:04.53 | Treatz | I've been working with the author of the technical slang version bible to create something more |
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| 01:05.02 | Treatz | The goal is to create a new bible |
| 01:05.10 | Treatz | from a peer directed project |
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| 01:05.16 | g4lt | greycat I'd assume so, cf the book of mormon ;P |
| 01:05.19 | troubled | Treatz: I can give you the ISBN of my Debian Bible if you would like ;) |
| 01:05.33 | Treatz | :) troubled |
| 01:05.53 | rares000 | In the beginning there was the source and it was full of #ifdefs but no matter it was portable |
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| 01:06.05 | Shayde | hi folks, i'm trying to get my sound updated on my machine here - i hadn't been explictely using alsa drivers until now - and i -had- sound playing, but poorly (it was aboug 2 seconds behind all the time). alsaconf correctly identifies the card, but the sound sample never plays. i wonder if i've mashed 2 differnet sound approaches together :( |
| 01:06.05 | abrotman | Treatz: guttenberg project? |
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| 01:06.14 | Treatz | similar |
| 01:06.45 | Shayde | is /dev/sndstat deprecated now? because it's nto showing me anything :) |
| 01:06.50 | nvz | rares000: :) |
| 01:07.09 | robit | dec23, hey hallo |
| 01:07.41 | tcsetattr | I think /dev/sndstat has been deprecated since 2.2 or 2.4 :) |
| 01:07.48 | Shayde | okay, good. |
| 01:07.57 | Shayde | so that's a red herring. |
| 01:08.24 | directhex | Shayde, debian 2.6 kernels have both alsa and oss in, by default |
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| 01:08.38 | Shayde | okay, i'm running a 2.6 kernel now. |
| 01:08.43 | rares000 | !Mormonsmite g4lt |
| 01:08.44 | Shayde | Linux jboat 2.6.3-1-686 #2 Tue Feb 24 20:24:38 EST 2004 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 01:08.53 | tcsetattr | and ALSA probably never supported /dev/sndstat |
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| 01:09.09 | rich_ | Hi |
| 01:09.31 | gaasfet | hello, I got a weird "symbol" font as UI font in OpenOffice, any ideas? |
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| 01:09.47 | Shayde | okay, fine by me. so i -was- running... something... i suppose it must have been oss... this is where i'm confused. alsa seems more up to date / stable, so i'm thinking of using it to try and fix this delay problem |
| 01:09.53 | Shayde | (it makes MAME a pain in the butt to play in :) |
| 01:10.04 | Shayde | but alsaconf works, but artsd can't bind to it or anything now :( |
| 01:10.07 | greycat | the delay is probably esound or artsd |
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| 01:10.26 | troubled | jozzer: roflmao, nice vanity domain |
| 01:10.27 | Led_Zeppelin | anyone here ever work on a linux cluster? |
| 01:10.34 | directhex | Shayde, 1) you need to remove oss from memory for alsa to work |
| 01:10.34 | Shayde | i thought of that, but i killed artsd, and tols xmms et al to go right to /dev/dsp, and it was still delayed. |
| 01:10.39 | directhex | 2) greycat's right |
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| 01:11.00 | Shayde | okay, so lemme remove oss stuff. i ahve a zillion things in lsmod right now... |
| 01:11.00 | Led_Zeppelin | like a beowulf cluster? |
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| 01:11.25 | Shayde | www.homeport.org/~shevett/out.txt <-- this is my lsmod output |
| 01:11.29 | shwag__ | is there a debian handbook ? |
| 01:11.51 | troubled | Led_Zeppelin: you running a cluster you need help with or are you interested in picking a clustering technology to implement for some purpose? |
| 01:11.52 | directhex | Shayde, lsmod | grep soundcore, spot the module that isn't called snd-* (e.g. i810_audio), add to /etc/discover.conf "skip themodulefromearlier", add to /etc/hotplug/blacklist the name of the module. |
| 01:11.54 | scarynetworkguy | shwag__: oddly enough yes on http://www.debian.org |
| 01:12.08 | troubled | Led_Zeppelin: last I read openmosix seemed nice |
| 01:12.08 | g4lt | shwag__ there's the bronc-buster book, but it's slink-specific |
| 01:12.17 | Led_Zeppelin | troubled, lol... |
| 01:12.22 | Led_Zeppelin | troubled, is it worth building? |
| 01:12.28 | Shayde | okay, found soundcore. (soundcore 100208 3 snd,cs46xx ) |
| 01:12.38 | troubled | Led_Zeppelin: you do realise that for beowolf you need to write custom apps right? |
| 01:12.41 | Led_Zeppelin | troubled, got like 6 P2, @ 400Mhz |
| 01:12.59 | Led_Zeppelin | troubled, really? why? I though they would just work as SMP |
| 01:13.10 | troubled | Led_Zeppelin: for things like compiling and such and distributing apps across the cluster, openmosix is probably more what your looking for |
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| 01:13.25 | Shayde | sorry, i dont' grok discover.conf it doesn't exist. so put 'skip cs46xx?' in there? |
| 01:13.32 | troubled | Led_Zeppelin: beowolf from what I understand is a set of API's in which you have to write apps for |
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| 01:13.41 | directhex | Shayde, are you running sarge? |
| 01:13.45 | Led_Zeppelin | troubled, hmm, thats not cool :-) |
| 01:13.48 | Shayde | direct: yup. |
| 01:13.49 | troubled | Led_Zeppelin: openmosix/mosix act more like the smp your looking for |
| 01:14.05 | kvn | Well it _is_ cool, but it means work. |
| 01:14.05 | directhex | Shayde, did you install it as sarge, or install woody & upgrade? |
| 01:14.07 | troubled | Led_Zeppelin: google for openmosix (or mosix if you dont care about license) |
| 01:14.09 | Led_Zeppelin | troubled, thanks man! |
| 01:14.12 | troubled | np |
| 01:14.21 | Shayde | woody and upgrade... *thinks* i think... |
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| 01:14.37 | scarynetworkguy | !seen thomas_adam |
| 01:14.37 | dpkg | thomas_adam <~n6tadam@host217-43-99-175.range217-43.btcentralplus.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 3d 5h 16m 35s ago, saying: 'I'll keep battling it out.'. |
| 01:14.37 | kenboo | SMP can handle threads distribution but not mosix |
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| 01:14.48 | kenboo | it's merely process base |
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| 01:15.07 | directhex | Shayde, dpkg -l discover1 |
| 01:15.24 | directhex | Shayde, dpkg -l hotplug |
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| 01:15.31 | Shayde | discover1 or discover? |
| 01:15.37 | directhex | discover1 |
| 01:15.40 | Shayde | not found. |
| 01:15.50 | troubled | kenboo: for some reason I think beowulf isnt what he wanted :) |
| 01:15.52 | Shayde | ii hotplug 0.0.20040329-14 Linux Hotplug Scripts |
| 01:15.58 | troubled | kenboo: probably above most people's needs |
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| 01:16.15 | directhex | ii discover1 1.6.5 hardware identification system |
| 01:16.18 | troubled | s/needs/skillset/ |
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| 01:16.38 | Shayde | huh. okay, apt-get that? |
| 01:16.41 | directhex | Shayde, just edit hotplug's blacklist then, i suppose. i'm used to pure sarge behaviour, where discover & hotplug are in the base install |
| 01:16.58 | tcsetattr | /usr/bin/X11 is a symlink; /usr/X11R6/bin is the real location |
| 01:17.05 | mrAstro | just compiled kernel 2.6.8.1 on my Dell Latitude laptop.. now the touchpad tap-to-click feature is... not working. there something i missed? (obviously..hehe) |
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| 01:17.09 | tcsetattr | dpkg -S isn't smart enough to canonicalize paths. |
| 01:17.10 | dpkg | You Fool! isn't smart enough to canonicalize paths. is installed! |
| 01:17.14 | kingsley | Yet "ls -l /usr/bin/X11/X" finds it. |
| 01:17.17 | Led_Zeppelin | kenboo, talking to me? |
| 01:17.23 | Shayde | okay, so i'm trying to understand what i'm doing here. i'm telling the module loader not to try to load... which module? the cs46xx one that is listed in soundcore? |
| 01:17.28 | scarynetworkguy | mrAstro: it's a feature getting rid of that evil for you :) |
| 01:17.28 | Led_Zeppelin | kenboo, what do you prefer? OpenMosix or Beowulf? |
| 01:17.32 | troubled | Led_Zeppelin: ya, I think he was |
| 01:17.35 | mrbeeeen | anyone know what the mysql package root password is because i cant connect to mysql |
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| 01:17.38 | directhex | Shayde, yes, that's it |
| 01:17.43 | Shayde | okay, sec. |
| 01:17.45 | mrAstro | scarynetworkguy: hehe. yeah.. unfortunately i like that evil at times.. :) |
| 01:17.51 | directhex | Shayde, also make sure the alsa-base package is installed |
| 01:18.20 | scarynetworkguy | mrAstro: what kernel did you have? |
| 01:18.29 | kingsley | Which package contains "/usr/bin/X11/X"? |
| 01:18.30 | mrAstro | i upgraded from a 2.4.23 where it worked fine.. |
| 01:18.34 | shockdiode | mrbeen:you sure mysqld is running? |
| 01:18.37 | greycat | kingsley: xserver-xfree86 |
| 01:18.38 | scarynetworkguy | !worked in 2.4 |
| 01:18.39 | dpkg | Every time you say "___ doesn't work in 2.6, but it worked in 2.4", a 25 cent (USD) surcharge must be paid to greycat. |
| 01:18.55 | Shayde | okay, blacklist updated to have cs46xx listed. |
| 01:18.56 | mrAstro | nice... |
| 01:19.09 | scarynetworkguy | !2.6 |
| 01:19.09 | dpkg | [2.6] http://lkml.org/archive/2003/7/11/106/index.html, http://www.kniggit.net/wwol26.html, or /msg dpkg kp, or now stable enough for critical production systems, or http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/docs/post-halloween-2.6.txt, or http://www.desktop-linux.net/debkernel.htm, or apt-get install module-init-tools in order to load modules on 2.6 |
| 01:19.14 | Scheme | You probaly missed out a module. |
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| 01:19.23 | kenboo | i don't have much opinion. there're too many issues to gain computing power from specific clustering architecture |
| 01:19.28 | Shayde | alsa-base is installed. |
| 01:19.32 | greycat | but wait! there's more! |
| 01:19.34 | Shayde | so now what, directhex, reboot? |
| 01:19.36 | greycat | !kernel of instability |
| 01:19.36 | dpkg | Linux 2.6. "Andrew's vision, as expressed at the summit, is that the mainline kernel will be the fastest and most feature-rich kernel around, but not, necessarily, the most stable. Final stabilization is to be done by distributors (as happens now, really)..." <http://kerneltrap.org/node/view/3513> |
| 01:19.39 | troubled | Led_Zeppelin: can you program using a third party API in say C/C++? Are you running some sort of cpu intensive simulaation that you can program across a cluster? Or are you just looking to do things like speed up compile times or wav -> mp3 convertion times? |
| 01:19.47 | scarynetworkguy | greycat: :D |
| 01:19.47 | mrbeeeen | mysql is running |
| 01:20.07 | Led_Zeppelin | troubled, wav + mp3 conversion times :-) ofcourse...we are in college |
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| 01:20.10 | simonrvn | troubled: hey |
| 01:20.13 | shockdiode | mrbeeen: and you were able to connect before? |
| 01:20.14 | troubled | Led_Zeppelin: openmosix is transparent is the sense that the kernel will migrate the processes to the least used cpu's (depends how you configure really) |
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| 01:20.19 | mrAstro | heh nice! just wanted to give it a try, compiling it per my needs. |
| 01:20.21 | mrbeeeen | no |
| 01:20.22 | troubled | simonrvn: booya! |
| 01:20.30 | mrbeeeen | i dont know the root password |
| 01:20.31 | Led_Zeppelin | troubled, that rocks! |
| 01:20.34 | chromakode | question: |
| 01:20.35 | shockdiode | mrbeen: are you connecting on the local machine or a remote machine |
| 01:20.41 | mrbeeeen | local |
| 01:20.42 | scarynetworkguy | !kernel of gratuitous changes |
| 01:20.42 | dpkg | Linux 2.6; see <http://kerneltrap.org/node/view/3513> |
| 01:20.43 | kenboo | troubled, that kind of issues are what i don't want to go into details ;-) |
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| 01:20.59 | troubled | Led_Zeppelin: then use openmosix, beowulf is more for hard core programmers with vast cpu power that write their own simulations custom to the cluster setup |
| 01:21.00 | chromakode | my system is unexplainably using 100% cpus, with no processes visibly responsible... |
| 01:21.04 | kingsley | greycat: I expected xserver-xfree86 to contain /usr/bin/X11/X too, but "dpkg -L" doesn't list it. |
| 01:21.14 | scarynetworkguy | chromakode: crackers |
| 01:21.16 | Led_Zeppelin | troubled, cool, thanks for the info |
| 01:21.18 | chromakode | can't be |
| 01:21.19 | Success_ | IS THERE N-E MANDRAKE PACKAGES TO HAXOR ?!?!?!?!! |
| 01:21.20 | greycat | kingsley: it's most likely generated after installation |
| 01:21.23 | tcsetattr | !cluebat kingsley |
| 01:21.29 | greycat | Success_: /join #mandrake |
| 01:21.30 | chromakode | I'm behind a nat |
| 01:21.30 | tcsetattr | am I freakin invisible? |
| 01:21.33 | Success_ | *BSD :) |
| 01:21.33 | chromakode | and nobody would bother |
| 01:21.36 | mrbeeeen | i hate it when usa is awake its hard to follow the channel and there are 4 e's in mrbEEEEn |
| 01:21.37 | kingsley | greycat: However, it does have /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86. |
| 01:21.49 | Xenguy | keeeel him |
| 01:21.49 | simonrvn | Success_: go ask that in #mandrake |
| 01:21.53 | chromakode | it just started about 10 minutes ago |
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| 01:21.53 | troubled | Led_Zeppelin: actually, openmosix howto explains the diffs very well. Basically something like compiling or wav -> mp3 are PERFECT for mosix clusters cause its completly transparent to the software and no changes need be made |
| 01:21.54 | kingsley | !lart tcsetattr |
| 01:21.54 | tcsetattr | /usr/bin/X11 is a SYMLINK. dpkg -S will not find ANYTHING there. |
| 01:22.00 | scarynetworkguy | my head just blew up |
| 01:22.03 | mith | ugg |
| 01:22.03 | chromakode | scarynetworkguy: ... |
| 01:22.06 | scarynetworkguy | *pop* |
| 01:22.09 | troubled | simonrvn: so what you been doing? |
| 01:22.16 | chromakode | scarynetworkguy: I highly doubt it's a crack |
| 01:22.18 | shockdiode | mrbeeeeeeeeeen: try dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server |
| 01:22.20 | chromakode | but maybe a kernel going bonkers? |
| 01:22.21 | tcsetattr | follow the symlink and dpkg -S where it really is! |
| 01:22.22 | mrAstro | so, basically, i just need to STFU and keep with the 2.4 series kernel? anyone else running the 2.6.x..? |
| 01:22.23 | nvz | if I start a vnc server session, it would do the same thing as a default gdm login, right? |
| 01:22.24 | mith | why doesn't the default kernel-image-2.6.* packages have lvm support, the kernel-image-2.4.* did =( |
| 01:22.24 | simonrvn | troubled: keepin' outta trouble :P |
| 01:22.25 | troubled | simonrvn: I got another dozen mails on the queue for ya too heh |
| 01:22.27 | troubled | rofl |
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| 01:22.28 | scarynetworkguy | chromakode: yes you are right that part was a joke... |
| 01:22.40 | debian | chromakode: what processs takes up highest load? |
| 01:23.06 | scarynetworkguy | chromakode: but if you think being behind a nat buys you protection or that people would not bother you are in for a fucking rude awaking someday |
| 01:23.09 | simonrvn | troubled: check the body, if it's spam, indiscriminately purge them |
| 01:23.15 | mrbeeeen | dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server <<<< i did that 10 times already but i'll do it again |
| 01:23.23 | nvz | x0rfbserver is making the text in irc all choppy.. think its too much for my k6-2 to be running X and VNC, think I am going to kill X.. brb |
| 01:23.27 | chromakode | debian: there isn't a single process at the top... top shows my various daemons each taking 2-4% in turns |
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| 01:23.33 | HydroSan | I have a question. I'm trying to get Logrotate to rotate the initial Apache2 log into compressed .gz form. But I can't seem to do it, even after editing /etc/logrotate.d/apache |
| 01:23.34 | Shayde | i'll bbiab. gonna restart. |
| 01:23.37 | troubled | simonrvn: bah, do you know how much of a PITA that is with exim in cli mode only and no X running to run the exim util? :( |
| 01:23.38 | chromakode | the only time I've had experiences like this was with alsa |
| 01:23.38 | simonrvn | troubled: if i reject it, and the mta is running, chances are it's spam |
| 01:23.38 | HydroSan | apache2* |
| 01:23.42 | HydroSan | Can anyone help? |
| 01:23.42 | chromakode | on this system |
| 01:23.45 | chromakode | but I reloaded the modules |
| 01:23.46 | troubled | simonrvn: thats what I figure |
| 01:23.59 | scarynetworkguy | Shayde: yeah cause random rebooting is *always* a good idea |
| 01:24.07 | shockdiode | mrbeeen: i believe there is no password then, you have to give it one if this is the first time setting up mysql |
| 01:24.14 | debian | chromakode: what do logs tell you? |
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| 01:24.28 | Objeto | why can't I mount my ntfs partition with user read permissions? |
| 01:24.31 | troubled | simonrvn: well, the email addresses look fake/bogus. nothing a human would pick |
| 01:24.31 | mrAstro | reboot for the kernel upgrade, or for hardware upgrade/downgrade/replacement... never else :) |
| 01:24.32 | simonrvn | HydroSan: logrotate is run via cron usually |
| 01:24.41 | chromakode | scarynetworkguy: I know that's not how it is. but I also know that the possibility of someone going out of their way to crack me or even know my existence, and then take up 100% cpu, is infintesimally likely. |
| 01:24.45 | zeeeee | question: how do i change the CLI resolution? i know it's possible because booting into kernel 2.4 (from original install) gives me a higher res than 2.6... in /boot/grub/menu.lst, i tried adding 'vga=ask' but none of the listed resolutions were nearly as high as the original (and i didn't find any vga= parameter for the 2.4 kernel) |
| 01:24.50 | HydroSan | simonrvn: I know, but I was wondering how I could force it just for the initial rotation. |
| 01:24.54 | JuliaN_KurumiN | Hello... Good night for all!!! |
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| 01:25.27 | simonrvn | HydroSan: run logrotate manually |
| 01:25.34 | kingsley | tcsetattr: OK. |
| 01:25.37 | scarynetworkguy | chromakode: the last part is right and I was joking. But please don't think that you are uncrackable *or* that you are not a target. Because you are... |
| 01:25.43 | chromakode | debian: nothing really useful, just the system noise of my reloading alsa |
| 01:25.43 | JuliaN_KurumiN | I'm a Brazilian Man... Speak portuguese for me!!! |
| 01:25.55 | abrotman | some interesting comments on slashdot re: debian in a commercial environment |
| 01:26.02 | simonrvn | JuliaN_KurumiN: no, go /join #debian-br |
| 01:26.05 | abrotman | especially .. why doesn't IBM support debian |
| 01:26.14 | chromakode | scarynetworkguy: I do not doubt that I am. I doubt that anyone would bother at this point in time. |
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| 01:26.27 | HydroSan | simonrvn: Usage: logrotate [-d|--debug] [-f|--force] [-m|--mail command] |
| 01:26.27 | HydroSan | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:26.27 | HydroSan | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:26.28 | scarynetworkguy | JuliaN_KurumiN: what I need you to do is go out in the front yard and play a nice rousing game of hide and go fuck yourself |
| 01:26.36 | chromakode | but alas, my cpu is still being eaten |
| 01:26.37 | debian | abrotman: because you haven't paid for it yet. :) |
| 01:26.38 | zeeeee | LOL |
| 01:26.50 | scarynetworkguy | chromakode: I gotta run just now. We can talk about why you are a target later if you want... |
| 01:26.52 | simonrvn | HydroSan: a) please don't paste in here b) wth did you show me that? |
| 01:26.53 | mrbeeeen | i dont get this ? Please remember to set a PASSWORD for the MySQL root user! If you use a ? /root/.my.cnf, always write the "user" and the "password" lines in? there, never only the password! See ? /usr/share/doc/mysql-server/README.Debian for more information. |
| 01:27.00 | abrotman | debian: i don't pay ibm for anything |
| 01:27.10 | chromakode | scarynetworkguy: lol. later. |
| 01:27.18 | JuliaN_KurumiN | j/ #debian-br |
| 01:27.20 | HydroSan | simonrvn: I'm wondering what option I would use. Sorry. |
| 01:27.21 | chromakode | scarynetworkguy: don't try and "prove" that I am a target ;P |
| 01:27.23 | Objeto | why can't I mount my ntfs partition with user read permissions? |
| 01:27.29 | Objeto | I have umask=022 |
| 01:27.31 | scarynetworkguy | chromakode: never |
| 01:27.32 | Objeto | on fstab |
| 01:27.39 | mrbeeeen | i made a .my.cnf file with just that and it still doesnt work |
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| 01:27.50 | greycat | Objeto: WHY can't you just paste the whole fstab line and your whole mount command? Instead of fucking around? |
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| 01:27.59 | simonrvn | HydroSan: you see what it says about configfile? that's /etc/logrotate.conf |
| 01:28.04 | JuliaN_KurumiN | Thank You Man |
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| 01:28.13 | chromakode | scarynetworkguy: cool. |
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| 01:28.22 | scarynetworkguy | greycat: it's a plot to drive you to a early grave :D |
| 01:28.23 | simonrvn | JuliaN_KurumiN: typing it correctly would help |
| 01:28.26 | scarynetworkguy | chromakode: coolness |
| 01:28.46 | Objeto | greycat : /dev/hda1 /mnt/Windows ntfs umask=022,ro,user,auto |
| 01:28.48 | Objeto | that's all |
| 01:28.59 | shockdiode | mrbeeeen: did you restart the server after that? also try `mysqladmin -u root 'yourpassword'` to set the root password |
| 01:29.03 | greycat | you're missing the " 0 0" at the end |
| 01:29.11 | Spongebob | anyone know how to pull an entire domains raw records off a dns server using dig? |
| 01:29.18 | greycat | also I'm not at all sure how "ro" and "umask=..." interact |
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| 01:29.32 | simonrvn | HydroSan: you can play a bit and run it verbose (-v) |
| 01:29.33 | mrbeeeen | debian is boring becuase it has apt you dont need to look each program web site to download it |
| 01:29.33 | greycat | !axfr |
| 01:29.38 | greycat | !zone transfer |
| 01:29.39 | dpkg | i heard zone transfer is "dig @servername axfr domain.name" (where servername is a NS for domain.name), but many servers restrict zone transfers to secondary name servers only.. The command "host -Z -a -l <domain>" will give a complete download of the zone data for <domain>, in the official master file format |
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| 01:29.41 | Objeto | greycat : the same adding 0 0 |
| 01:29.41 | mrAstro | don't think you need the umask=... with the "user" option specified.. at least none of mine have the umask manually set |
| 01:30.06 | Spongebob | thanks greycat |
| 01:30.30 | Objeto | ok |
| 01:30.35 | Objeto | thanx greycat , fixed |
| 01:30.47 | simonrvn | greycat: i get illegal option -Z |
| 01:30.56 | mrbeeeen | Starting MySQL database server: mysqld. |
| 01:30.56 | mrbeeeen | localhost:# `mysqladmin -u root sniped |
| 01:30.56 | mrbeeeen | > |
| 01:31.14 | g4lt | mrbeeeen thanks for your password, BTW |
| 01:31.17 | mrbeeeen | not working |
| 01:31.24 | mrbeeeen | i sniped it |
| 01:31.29 | greycat | simonrvn: I've never used host(1) for it, only dig |
| 01:31.30 | abrotman | snipped |
| 01:31.32 | abrotman | not sniped |
| 01:31.36 | g4lt | mrbeeeen try -psnipped |
| 01:31.38 | fuhr | In my Debian I dont have the the /etc/xinetd.d directory. Have any similar? |
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| 01:31.51 | Gnea | hrmmm |
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| 01:31.58 | cornchip | my alsa setup is weird. The kernal modules for my card are loaded, but alsa isn't recognizing my card. |
| 01:32.02 | g4lt | fuhr install xinetd then, duh |
| 01:32.08 | abrotman | fuhr: not unless you install it .. debian defaults to inetd .. not xinetd |
| 01:32.10 | Gnea | anyone tried the sid installation .iso? the setup isn't quite complete heh |
| 01:32.21 | greycat | !sid faq |
| 01:32.21 | dpkg | [sid faq] http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html |
| 01:32.25 | g4lt | Gnea serves the fuckers right |
| 01:32.33 | simonrvn | greycat: same, but i just checked my host --help, and there's no such -Z option. and yes, i was checking my own NS =) |
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| 01:32.58 | mrbeeeen | testing is the best |
| 01:33.02 | greycat | simonrvn: figure it out, fix the factoid :) |
| 01:33.12 | Gnea | g4lt: no seriously, it gets thru like 7 or 8 layers of installation then dumps at an ash prompt without fdisk |
| 01:33.17 | tcsetattr | I wanna know what happened to the old host -A option... it disappeared, and I miss it |
| 01:33.18 | simonrvn | greycat: yes, not awake yet |
| 01:33.28 | Shayde | re re. well, onb reboot, cs46xx is still there - wasn't that entry that directhex showed me supposed to suppress loading that? I'm assuming that cs46xx is an OSS sound driver, and now i'm using alsa. so how do i get rid of it? |
| 01:33.28 | mrbeeeen | what does -psninnped so? |
| 01:33.38 | simonrvn | !zone transfer =~ s/-Z// |
| 01:33.38 | dpkg | OK, simonrvn |
| 01:33.39 | abrotman | oh jeez |
| 01:33.43 | simonrvn | @zone transfer =~ s/-Z// |
| 01:33.44 | ravenbird | simonrvn: that doesn't contain '-Z' |
| 01:33.49 | simonrvn | @zone transfer |
| 01:33.49 | ravenbird | from memory, zone transfer is "dig @servername axfr domain.name" (where servername is a NS for domain.name), but many servers restrict zone transfers to secondary name servers only. |
| 01:34.13 | greycat | !literal zone transfer |
| 01:34.13 | dpkg | zone transfer is "dig @servername axfr domain.name" (where servername is a NS for domain.name), but many servers restrict zone transfers to secondary name servers only.. The command "host -a -l <domain>" will give a complete download of the zone data for <domain>, in the official master file format |
| 01:34.21 | simonrvn | @zone transfer is also The command "host -a -l <domain>" will give a complete download of the zone data for <domain>, in the official master file format |
| 01:34.22 | ravenbird | okay, simonrvn |
| 01:34.27 | simonrvn | @zone transfer |
| 01:34.27 | ravenbird | zone transfer is probably "dig @servername axfr domain.name" (where servername is a NS for domain.name), but many servers restrict zone transfers to secondary name servers only.. The command "host -a -l <domain>" will give a complete download of the zone data for <domain>, in the official master file format |
| 01:34.35 | simonrvn | cool |
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| 01:34.46 | mrbeeeen | mysqladmin -u root snipped |
| 01:34.47 | mrbeeeen | mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed |
| 01:34.47 | mrbeeeen | error: 'Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: YES)' |
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| 01:34.53 | g4lt | Gnea and somehow this invalidates my conclusion that installing sid shouuld be hard/impossible? |
| 01:34.53 | fuhr | g4lt, duh... u are rigth thanks... |
| 01:34.55 | kenboo | zone transferring might be disabled by default |
| 01:35.05 | simonrvn | kenboo: yes, we know... |
| 01:35.05 | mrbeeeen | should i paste in flood? |
| 01:35.24 | simonrvn | mrbeeeen: you were told to use the -p switch. why aren't you? |
| 01:35.30 | g4lt | mrbeeeen are you even fucking listening to me? |
| 01:35.35 | Gnea | g4lt: absolutely not. i wanted to give the .iso a whirl and so i tried.. it's simply not ready yet.. the bootup screen is rather snazzy tho :) |
| 01:35.38 | simonrvn | mrbeeeen: yes, you should, but not necessary |
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| 01:35.56 | zeeeee | question: how do i change the CLI resolution? i know it's possible because booting into kernel 2.4 (from original install) gives me a higher res than 2.6... in /boot/grub/menu.lst, i tried adding 'vga=ask' but none of the listed resolutions were nearly as high as the original (and i didn't find any vga= parameter for the 2.4 kernel) |
| 01:36.10 | Gibby | Hi everyone! I just had my first kernel Panic! |
| 01:36.11 | mrbeeeen | ok, ok, ok |
| 01:36.19 | Gnea | Gibby: hahaha |
| 01:36.20 | abrotman | !win gibby |
| 01:36.21 | dpkg | Congratulations, gibby! You have won a one way ticket to baghdad! |
| 01:36.31 | Gibby | I feel so special! |
| 01:36.40 | mrbeeeen | mysqladmin -pu root snipped |
| 01:36.40 | mrbeeeen | mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed |
| 01:36.40 | mrbeeeen | error: 'Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: YES)' |
| 01:36.47 | Gnea | !ask |
| 01:36.48 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask away on channel. If somebody knows, they'll answer :) For best results, be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic! Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Also don't ask if anyone uses/knows about foo. Please don't be demanding or insulting. Remember, we're all volunteers. Finally, please don't /msg people without permission or demand an answer from one particular person. Thanks! |
| 01:36.57 | greycat | Can DVD::RIP pull individual chapters out of the tracks instead of ripping it all as one giant .ogm file? |
| 01:37.00 | Gnea | mrbeeeen: so what's the problem? |
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| 01:37.29 | mrbeeeen | i cant make a root user for my local mysql |
| 01:37.34 | simonrvn | mrbeeeen: RTFM |
| 01:37.34 | mrbeeeen | i am su'd |
| 01:37.42 | mrbeeeen | RTFM? |
| 01:37.43 | Gnea | mrbeeeen: have you RTFM? |
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| 01:37.47 | Gnea | !rtfm |
| 01:37.47 | dpkg | i guess rtfm is Read The Fucking Manual. If you want to ask a question about foo, please read man foo; before asking. If there isn't a manpage about foo, use apropos to find one. Reading manuals helps us help you. [You might try info foo as well.] |
| 01:37.48 | g4lt | mrbeeeen I TOLD YOU TO USE -psnipped, NOT WHATEVER THAT CRAP YOU PASTED WAS |
| 01:37.53 | zignig | READ THE FNORDING MANUAL ! |
| 01:37.54 | simonrvn | no, better RTFGDM |
| 01:38.03 | zignig | simonrvn: heh |
| 01:38.05 | Gnea | lol |
| 01:38.08 | g4lt | !g4lt |
| 01:38.09 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, g4lt is just plain mean. <helix> peterS: g4lt is just mean, or <whinge>nobody listens to me</whinge> |
| 01:38.11 | mrbeeeen | i did |
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| 01:38.18 | g4lt | bullshit |
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| 01:38.23 | hans_ | cd / |
| 01:38.26 | Gnea | no, you didn't. |
| 01:38.29 | simonrvn | kick his ass |
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| 01:38.49 | Gnea | mrbeeeen: if you'd actually RTFM then you wouldn't have the problem. |
| 01:38.51 | troubled | !lart peterS and g4lt |
| 01:38.58 | Gibby | My comp worked fine until today, then I got a kernel panic (from man, of all things ;>) ) now I get it all the time on boot. Anybody have any ideas what's up? Debian stable 3.0 on Hp vectra ve c/333 |
| 01:39.00 | mrbeeeen | it said to make and add the user to /root/.my.cnf i did |
| 01:39.01 | simonrvn | heh |
| 01:39.11 | g4lt | peterS sorry, I just thought that adding my usual complaint to my factoid was appropriate |
| 01:39.13 | Gnea | mrbeeeen: it's in /usr/share/doc/mysql-somethingorother/ |
| 01:39.19 | peterS | troubled: watch it, buddy, you're next. you act up again, I'm gonna look at you |
| 01:39.22 | simonrvn | -server/ |
| 01:39.23 | peterS | g4lt: yeah, that works |
| 01:39.39 | mrbeeeen | what the full comand i should run |
| 01:39.46 | g4lt | mrbeeeen HAVE YOU EVEN TRIED -psnipped yet?! |
| 01:39.51 | Gnea | cd /usr/share/doc; ls |
| 01:39.58 | mrbeeeen | !win troubled |
| 01:39.58 | dpkg | Congratulations, troubled! You have won a one way ticket to baghdad! |
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| 01:40.19 | xarg | hi all ... I am trying to install debian on a sun 420r with a qlogic isp2200a FC card and I get this error when booting from CD "device set offline - command error recover failed:" this error repeats continually and the install does not start? |
| 01:40.26 | peterS | o/~ mama don't take my chromakode away o/` |
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| 01:40.50 | chromakode | it's gone.... |
| 01:40.54 | xarg | does anyone have experience with this card or know where I can find info on it and woody? |
| 01:40.55 | chromakode | peterS: :/ |
| 01:41.01 | troubled | g4lt: heh, that should be a factoid |
| 01:41.08 | Gibby | Should I try a different chat? maybe this isn't the right channel for kernel panics.... |
| 01:41.08 | peterS | chromakode: give us those nice bright colors! |
| 01:41.13 | Gnea | !sparc |
| 01:41.14 | dpkg | sparc is, like, the CPU architecture used in Sun's proprietary hardware. Non-embedded ones usually run Solaris, but to run Linux on it, visit http://www.ultralinux.org/faq.html or Type make vmlinux (not kernel or bzImage or lilo or anything like that) to compile the kernel. For more information about the SPARC architecture, see http://www.sparc.org. For help with Linux on SPARC look in #debian-sparc |
| 01:41.19 | mrbeeeen | g4lt: -psnipped is a flag/tag.... what comand should i add it to? |
| 01:41.28 | maher | Gibby: try kernel-newbies |
| 01:41.34 | chromakode | peterS: ...? |
| 01:41.47 | simonrvn | ... |
| 01:41.49 | peterS | chromakode: both lines were lyrics from the song "Kodachrome" by Paul Simon |
| 01:41.51 | g4lt | !breastfeed mrbeeeen |
| 01:42.05 | mrbeeeen | !yuck dpkg |
| 01:42.13 | Gibby | maher: on this server? |
| 01:42.17 | xarg | Gnea: this seems to be more of a qlogin driver issue. |
| 01:42.23 | chromakode | peterS: heh |
| 01:42.23 | troubled | wholy jumping botabuse batman! |
| 01:42.24 | xarg | qlogic even |
| 01:42.25 | maher | Gibby: umm... not sure |
| 01:42.36 | Taichi | peterS: it makes you wonder what they'd inhaled beforehand, doesn't it? :P |
| 01:42.37 | Gnea | xarg: i only have a sparc5, i haven't seen that problem before... |
| 01:42.40 | mrbeeeen | !moron mrbeeeen |
| 01:42.41 | dpkg | mrbeeeen: You are moron #76 |
| 01:42.42 | peterS | chromakode: if your nick actually *doesn't* mean kodachrome ... oh well (: |
| 01:42.48 | g4lt | mrbeeeen fine, here it is in a format even YOU can't screw up: mysqladmin -u root -psnipped |
| 01:42.50 | Gibby | well, nobody seems to know here, so I'll give it a try. Thanks... |
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| 01:43.10 | mrbeeeen | !win grlt |
| 01:43.10 | dpkg | Congratulations, grlt! You have won a one way ticket to baghdad! |
| 01:43.12 | chromakode | peterS: it's from the word kodachrome, not the song :P |
| 01:43.13 | maher | Gibby: http://www.kernelnewbies.org/ |
| 01:43.21 | simonrvn | mrbeeeen: stop it |
| 01:43.23 | peterS | chromakode: right, ok. well, it's a good song |
| 01:43.25 | Gnea | mrbeeeen: stop abusing the bot. now. |
| 01:43.28 | fuhr | Sorry the stupid question but, how I run the nfs daemon? |
| 01:43.32 | Gibby | thanks |
| 01:43.34 | chromakode | peterS: I need to listen to it some time :) |
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| 01:43.57 | greycat | fuhr: apt-cache search nfs server |
| 01:44.01 | Gnea | g4lt: i fucking HATE illiterate people. |
| 01:44.03 | Taichi | 'fly me to the moon and let me play among the stars.....' |
| 01:44.30 | rares000 | oh no Taichi don't go |
| 01:44.32 | rares000 | there |
| 01:44.41 | Taichi | heheheh, why not? |
| 01:44.47 | mrbeeeen | it pasted a 100 line thingy |
| 01:44.48 | rares000 | Eva gave me a brain hemmorhage |
| 01:45.00 | g4lt | Gnea taht wasn't exactly a literary reference ;P |
| 01:45.02 | mrbeeeen | i'll paste in #flood in 30s |
| 01:45.02 | Taichi | actually, i was thinking of frank sinatra.... |
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| 01:45.11 | Gnea | g4lt: ROFL |
| 01:45.29 | rares000 | illiterary ppl |
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| 01:46.04 | Taichi | but, for the people who tried to watch eva and didn't understand it, or whose brains just exploded, ahahahahaha, it's not that complex ;) |
| 01:46.05 | mrbeeeen | pasting now ok? |
| 01:46.06 | rares000 | Evangelion really messed with my head |
| 01:46.09 | g4lt | mrbeeeen the reason you got that is we havbe no idea what you wanted to pass to mysqladmin |
| 01:46.40 | batbeak | which of the xlibs controls the clipboard? |
| 01:46.41 | rares000 | Taich you don't understand we live in a world of lies no one can stand that much truth |
| 01:47.23 | mrbeeeen | right now i want to make a root account to make a database but i cant even connect to my local mysql |
| 01:47.44 | troubled | mrbeeeen: better start reading ;) |
| 01:47.54 | Taichi | rares000: a person's truth is so simple, that most ignore it to concentrate on what they think are deeper truths ;) |
| 01:47.59 | troubled | mrbeeeen: looked in /usr/share/doc/$pkgname yet? |
| 01:48.03 | mrbeeeen | i dont know what the root password is but i follow the insructions and add an account root with a passowrd to /root/.my.cnf as the maule said |
| 01:48.11 | g4lt | mrbeeeen why do you want to create an account that's already there? |
| 01:48.24 | fuhr | greenfly, I install the packages but still dont have a nfsd in my system. |
| 01:48.26 | mrbeeeen | IT isnt there |
| 01:48.29 | abrotman | heh |
| 01:48.42 | holo | a shellscript to initialize a program automatically after it exits? |
| 01:48.44 | Taichi | mrbeeeen: you're supposed to use 'mysqladmin' for that |
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| 01:48.48 | mrbeeeen | thats ther problem i am trying to connect to it and it ALWAYS denies |
| 01:48.55 | mrbeeeen | i did |
| 01:49.06 | Taichi | g4lt: i thought you said you gave him a foolproof solution :P |
| 01:49.28 | g4lt | Taichi he's an ingenious fool |
| 01:49.29 | holo | Ä©f blah=0; blah; ? |
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| 01:49.45 | Taichi | heheh, stupidity knows no bounds |
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| 01:54.16 | g4lt | mrbeeeen did you type in EXACTLY the line that you saw in /usr/share/doc/mysql-server/README.Debian |
| 01:54.23 | mrbeeeen | err must be a problem with the OLD package or my /etc/hosts file |
| 01:54.29 | mrbeeeen | hello? |
| 01:54.35 | mrbeeeen | YES |
| 01:54.52 | mrbeeeen | err i reread it |
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| 01:55.41 | g4lt | okay, what line aare you reading (less -N shows line numbering) |
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| 01:56.08 | g4lt | the lines you should be looking at are 57 and 58 |
| 01:56.44 | mrbeeeen | i have done everything in file:///usr/share/doc/mysql-server/README.Debian |
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| 01:57.01 | mrbeeeen | *when viewing in mozillaTM |
| 01:57.14 | simonrvn | whoah, weird visual effect with the new blue in xterm |
| 01:57.28 | asg | simonrvn: new blue? |
| 01:57.43 | brett | hello, does anybody know the best place i should submit a new deb package i have created for the nepali unicode fonts? I thought it would be nice if it were available on the standard mirrors. |
| 01:57.46 | g4lt | god savbe me from people who use mozilla to read textfiles |
| 01:57.48 | simonrvn | either the blue is different, or my gamma is too wonky |
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| 01:57.52 | Guerin | asg: blue is the new blue |
| 01:57.55 | asg | !save Guerin |
| 01:58.00 | asg | !save g4lt |
| 01:58.02 | asg | for that matter |
| 01:58.09 | nvz | !dict wonky |
| 01:58.11 | dpkg | Dictionary 'wonky' (2 shown): turned or twisted toward one side; "a...youth with a gorgeous red necktie all awry"- G.K.Chesterton; "his wig was, as the British say, skew-whiff" ;; inclined to shake as from weakness or defect; "a rickety table"; "a wobbly chair with shaky legs"; "the ladder felt a little wobbly"; "the bridge still stands though one of the arches is wonky" . |
| 01:58.17 | maher | brett: email debian-mentors and ask for a sponsor to upload thepackage |
| 01:58.21 | Guerin | not enough to save g4lt from mrbeeeen, I don't think |
| 01:58.28 | g4lt | asg they set the fire? |
| 01:58.44 | asg | g4lt: yes, or bad karma |
| 01:58.50 | Guerin | I think you might have to send him a St Bernard with a big keg o' brandy soon |
| 01:59.01 | maher | brett: http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/ |
| 01:59.05 | mrbeeeen | hey cant some get few gmail account and install debian on them for us? |
| 01:59.19 | g4lt | mrbeeeen okay, assuming you want to SET the passowrd, it's mysqladmin -u root password 'snipped' |
| 01:59.21 | Guerin | mrbeeeen: wtf? |
| 01:59.45 | brett | maher: thanks, that's just what i needed. |
| 01:59.47 | zeeeee | does anybody know how to use 'radeonfb'? i found out it's a module by running lsmod. only my kernel 2.4 (from original install) loads it though, not my 2.6 kernels (one's an image, other's built from source)....the only places on my FS having *radeonfb* files were under /usr/src & /lib/modules, and the files ended in .c, .o, .h, and .mod but i have no idea what do with them...and i found no mention of 'radeonfb' in any file under /etc or |
| 01:59.47 | zeeeee | /boot...also i tried running insmod on the files i found (eg 'insmod radeonfb.ko') but that just gave me an error about unknown symbols |
| 01:59.48 | g4lt | note the quotes |
| 02:00.09 | g4lt | zeeeee what radeon do you have? |
| 02:00.09 | Guerin | insmod |
| 02:00.13 | zeeeee | i don't know how that got broken up |
| 02:00.13 | Gibby | Out of curiousity, has anyone else had a random kernel panic experience? |
| 02:00.13 | asg | zeeeee: always modprobe, never insmod |
| 02:00.14 | ozzloy | i would like to set up a firewall with my debian machine. it has 2 ethernet cards, so i figure one side will b internet and the other will go to the hub for the house |
| 02:00.19 | Guerin | !insmod |
| 02:00.19 | dpkg | Sorry, that command doesn't exist. Surely you meant "modprobe"?, or modprobe also loads dependencies, insmod only loads what you tell it to load. NEVER attempt to use insmod under 2.6. Use modprobe. Did we mention "modprobe" yet? |
| 02:00.23 | ozzloy | anyone got help? |
| 02:00.29 | zeeeee | g4lt: i have...a radeon mobility 9000 |
| 02:00.36 | mrbeeeen | but it gives the error mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed |
| 02:00.37 | mrbeeeen | error: 'Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: YES)' |
| 02:00.40 | Guerin | ozzloy: apt-cache search firewall |
| 02:00.56 | Taichi | Gibby: i've had 2, once when the ram failed in my server, the other which happened repeatedly, whenever i put a certain network card into a machine and tried to start samba ;) |
| 02:01.07 | g4lt | zeeeee I'm not sure that the mobility cards deal with radeonfb very well, you may want to play with fglrx |
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| 02:01.15 | ozzloy | Guerin: i'm on it |
| 02:01.21 | ozzloy | holy crap |
| 02:01.32 | zeeeee | asg: 'modprobe radeonfb' (no .ko) just completely wiped out my screen |
| 02:01.46 | asg | zeeeee: then it worked, but not well |
| 02:01.54 | mrbeeeen | blm is helping me |
| 02:02.17 | zeeeee | asg: hmm...well for now how do i 'unload' that? (if possible) |
| 02:02.20 | asg | zeeeee: read the kernel Documentation/ for it or use the vesafb (or neither and use X + ion to simulate the effect) |
| 02:02.21 | ozzloy | ok, so i've heard people recomend iptables before. is this a good one? |
| 02:02.27 | asg | zeeeee: rmmod |
| 02:02.32 | g4lt | ahh, you messed with .my.cnf before you actually set the password. move .my.cnf to not.my.cnf and try again |
| 02:02.44 | zeeeee | g4lt: it seems to work fine for the other kernel... |
| 02:02.58 | asg | ozzloy: good one what? |
| 02:03.00 | g4lt | !msg |
| 02:03.00 | dpkg | (1) Use private messages to the bots to reduce channel spam, but don't message people on #debian without asking permission first. Most questions should be asked on channel, so that others can benefit from the question and the answers received. (2) Always feel free to message freenode network staff. They're the people with hostnames ending in 'staff.freenode'. (3) Monosodium glutamate, a food additive (see http://truthinlabeling.org/). |
| 02:03.03 | mrbeeeen | mysql sucks right but mssql suck even more |
| 02:03.10 | Guerin | ozzloy: iptables it the infreastructure a firewall is built on. You probably want something which IMPLEMENTS iptables rules. Like ipmasw, shorewall, or somesuch. |
| 02:03.20 | asg | mrbeeeen: mysql is perfectly sufficient for 90% of database tasks |
| 02:03.25 | Taichi | mrbeeeen: mysql does NOT suck, you, as the user, suck ;) |
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| 02:03.46 | stew | mrbeeeen: mssql doesn't suck either |
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| 02:03.54 | Seb | postgres is da shit :) |
| 02:03.54 | nvz | Taichi: thats whats known as a PEBKAC |
| 02:03.55 | g4lt | zeeeee that !msg wasn't aimed at you, first of all use modprobe to activate modules |
| 02:03.58 | kerpal23 | postfix or exim why? |
| 02:04.01 | Taichi | heh, i've seen mysql perform beyond belief in a 70 million row+ database |
| 02:04.03 | mrbeeeen | what another sql which work with local access |
| 02:04.09 | Seb | apt, start a db war |
| 02:04.10 | apt | MySQL is better than Solid |
| 02:04.14 | Seb | heh |
| 02:04.16 | kerpal23 | lol |
| 02:04.18 | Gnea | !iso |
| 02:04.19 | dpkg | iso is probably a cd-image. CD images of debian are available at http://www.debian.org/CD, or debian-cd.com, or http://www.linuxiso.org, or something I do with needle and thread, or ask me about "netinst", a 32 MB bootable base-installation ISO, or jigdo, or ask me about "jigdo", or did I mention "jigdo"?, or see "create cd image" |
| 02:04.19 | asg | kerpal23: modular vs monolithic; you make the call |
| 02:04.20 | Taichi | kerpal23: exim, it's much better, and for flexible |
| 02:04.45 | kerpal23 | cause im dealing with postfix now, and i would just like to know what the differences are.. |
| 02:04.59 | kerpal23 | whats modular about exim.. |
| 02:05.07 | Guerin | kerpal23: if you have postfix up and running, don't bother changing. |
| 02:05.10 | asg | kerpal23: postfix is composed of well defined little programs, exim is sendmail lite (with some nice features, don't get me wrong) |
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| 02:05.16 | simonrvn | asg: i just toyed with the gamma, and yes it's a different blue |
| 02:05.24 | asg | simonrvn: cool! |
| 02:05.26 | ozzloy | Guerin: i don't have to tell you i'm new to setting up firewalls (this is my first) |
| 02:05.29 | simonrvn | deeper |
| 02:06.00 | jharrison | postfix rules |
| 02:06.14 | kerpal23 | ahh |
| 02:06.18 | asg | jharrison: but can't do simple rfc2822 rewriting |
| 02:06.25 | Guerin | !start a mta war |
| 02:06.25 | dpkg | sendmail rulez |
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| 02:06.36 | jharrison | postfix rules |
| 02:07.01 | jharrison | piggy? |
| 02:07.01 | asg | s/'s/s/ |
| 02:07.03 | g4lt | jharrison tell us something you haven't said recently |
| 02:07.06 | asg | jharrison: sussudio's bot |
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| 02:07.09 | atomjack | hi, can anybody help me? I'm trying to install sarge on a promise raid controller to a 200gig drive (got another as the mirror), and after the first reboot after the base install, within one minute the system just reboots, so I'm unable to finish off the install ... I installed woody on it with a pair of 80gig drives but the woody installer doesn't see the 200gig drives' full sizes properly - only 137gb, so i tried sarge, which sees the |
| 02:07.12 | jharrison | im ready |
| 02:07.14 | jharrison | where is the piggy |
| 02:07.20 | simonrvn | ooo, "OT (ish) advice on current best NAT/Firewall?" |
| 02:07.34 | jharrison | hehe |
| 02:07.36 | simonrvn | hehe, i'm going to go reply ipf and/or iptables ;) |
| 02:07.40 | asg | Guerin: I was on my way to bed but came upon an unopened and forlorn bottle of beer ... |
| 02:07.48 | zeeeee | so i used modprobe to activate the radeonfb module but then all chars got wiped out, except i saw a cursor which seemed to be moving around like normal...i ran rmmod radeonfb and then my screen turned into a magnificent display of colors...it still continued to accept cmds :D |
| 02:07.55 | jharrison | everyone acts like its my fault postfix rules |
| 02:07.59 | Guerin | asg: and saved it from certain loneliness. You noble soul. |
| 02:08.02 | Seb | openbsd's pf has to got to win it all |
| 02:08.15 | g4lt | zeeeee soundfs like the radeonfb I know and hate |
| 02:08.21 | asg | Guerin: It's a mad way to be |
| 02:08.22 | guestish | are important bugs given any importannce? |
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| 02:08.31 | Seb | guestish: of course not |
| 02:08.34 | atomjack | anyone read my question..pleeease...more info available on request..help! |
| 02:08.43 | guestish | Seb: why not? |
| 02:08.49 | Guerin | guestish: only grave bugs get any attention. |
| 02:08.54 | Seb | atomjack: ask in #debian-boot, they are the installers specialists |
| 02:08.55 | guestish | atomjack: whats your question? |
| 02:09.00 | Seb | guestish: cause it makes sense, doesn't it ? |
| 02:09.01 | stew | atomjack: #debian-boot |
| 02:09.02 | asg | atomjack: try #debian-boot |
| 02:09.07 | atomjack | thanks guys |
| 02:09.08 | Seb | there |
| 02:09.08 | atomjack | i'll try that |
| 02:09.13 | g4lt | zeeeee for at least the rv100's I recommend not using radeonfb at all |
| 02:09.24 | guestish | Guerin: are you serious, or joking like Seb is |
| 02:09.49 | asg | !info xserver-xfree86 sid |
| 02:09.55 | dpkg | xserver-xfree86: (the XFree86 X server), section x11, is optional. Version: 4.3.0.dfsg.1-7 (sid), Packaged size: 5533 kB, Installed size: 15480 kB |
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| 02:10.13 | kingsley | I'll try it. |
| 02:10.25 | Seb | kingsley: why is that ? |
| 02:10.30 | mrbeeeen | guys i am getting error 1045 with mysql |
| 02:10.32 | Guerin | guestish: well, at a time like this, when the focus is on releasing, I expect that only very serious bugs will be fixed, unless the fix is pretty trivial. |
| 02:10.34 | asg | kingsley: are you going to tell us why the X Strike Force recommends this? |
| 02:10.44 | Seb | yes please |
| 02:10.46 | Guerin | guestish: btu more generally, I am joking, sort of. |
| 02:10.50 | guestish | Guerin: dang it, the problem is that i cant use 2.6 on my sparc box =\ |
| 02:11.07 | asg | simonrvn: does ravenbird have the I forgot mysql password factoid, dpkg seems to have lost it :/ |
| 02:11.09 | g4lt | mrbeeeen #mysql |
| 02:11.11 | Guerin | guestish: bad. |
| 02:11.16 | guestish | Guerin: very... |
| 02:11.23 | Seb | kingsley: ? |
| 02:11.34 | simonrvn | asg: not sure, check |
| 02:11.41 | g4lt | asg there is one way to find out..... ;P |
| 02:11.46 | guestish | Guerin: but i filed it as important, cause i guess the problem only exists with certain ultra models |
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| 02:11.50 | kingsley | Seb: I don't know what their reason. Speaking only for myself, 4.3.0.dfsg.1-6 is crashing often. |
| 02:12.01 | kingsley | s/reason/reason was/ |
| 02:12.02 | Seb | kingsley: so they just recommend to upgrade, period ? |
| 02:12.02 | asg | g4lt: ;) |
| 02:12.05 | omer07 | how can i download kde3.3 for debian |
| 02:12.09 | asg | simonrvn: apparently not, oh well |
| 02:12.10 | Gibby | Can bad memory cause kernel panics? |
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| 02:12.12 | omer07 | as *.deb file |
| 02:12.13 | Guerin | I upgraded to dfsg-7, and haven't noticed a shred of difference. But then again, nothing was bad beforehand, so...? |
| 02:12.17 | Seb | Gibby: yes |
| 02:12.17 | guestish | omer07: use backports.org or unstable |
| 02:12.18 | asg | Guerin: yes |
| 02:12.20 | asg | grr |
| 02:12.21 | AndreaKBG | Gibby: yes |
| 02:12.22 | asg | Gibby: yes |
| 02:12.23 | Gibby | hmm |
| 02:12.28 | omer07 | ok |
| 02:12.30 | guestish | Guerin: im guessing thats not trivial ;) |
| 02:12.46 | g4lt | Guerin they made some changes to savage, IIRC |
| 02:12.53 | asg | Guerin: mwilson was concerned last night, I've seen no problems so far though |
| 02:12.57 | Gibby | Seems strange though, since there was a period of calm after I added that mem chip before the storm of panic |
| 02:12.58 | Seb | guestish: hum, apt- only seems to see 4.3.0.dfsg.1-6 here |
| 02:13.08 | omer07 | and is there any adress to download 14 cd . |
| 02:13.11 | asg | Seb: apt-get update |
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| 02:13.14 | g4lt | Seb AVOID 5 and 6 |
| 02:13.17 | Seb | asg: dude :) |
| 02:13.22 | asg | Seb: hahaha |
| 02:13.22 | Seb | asg: I just did |
| 02:13.27 | guestish | Seb: kernel 2.6 =P |
| 02:13.29 | kingsley | Seb: You can read about the (roughly 3 dozen) bugs it fixes at http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=254601. |
| 02:13.38 | guestish | Seb: get a life |
| 02:14.03 | Seb | kingsley: k |
| 02:14.05 | Seb | guestish: pardon me ? |
| 02:14.08 | asg | omer07: /msg dpkg ig |
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| 02:14.15 | guestish | Seb: exactly ;) |
| 02:14.16 | asg | omer07: you really don't need every cd |
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| 02:14.28 | Seb | guestish: I don't get the joke, but oh well |
| 02:14.31 | Seb | :) |
| 02:14.34 | kingsley | Much like California' |
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| 02:14.50 | guestish | k |
| 02:14.50 | kingsley | Much like California's governor, "I'll be back" (I hope!) |
| 02:15.03 | asg | kingsley: Gray Davis? |
| 02:15.07 | Seb | heheheh |
| 02:15.07 | Guerin | heh |
| 02:15.20 | jharrison | im happy to not be a US citizen |
| 02:15.25 | asg | jharrison: me too |
| 02:15.27 | Seb | shee, so am I |
| 02:15.30 | jharrison | not that I have anything against them |
| 02:15.34 | guestish | Seb: thats life i suppose |
| 02:15.37 | jharrison | just happy thats all |
| 02:15.39 | jharrison | :-P |
| 02:15.44 | asg | jharrison: me neither, my parents and mrs. asg are |
| 02:15.45 | Seb | !confuse guestish |
| 02:15.46 | dpkg | no, what is your badger tomorrow, guestish? by order of the people's republic of liechtenstein with extra ham |
| 02:15.50 | kingsley | asg: California's other governor. The one who's not a "girlie man". |
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| 02:15.56 | Gibby | I'm not a us citizen, but I wouldn't mind if I was |
| 02:16.07 | jharrison | asg: yeah mrs. jharrison is from TN |
| 02:16.12 | scarynetworkguy | Gibby: I'll trade ya |
| 02:16.12 | Seb | Gibby: other people would, if you were, though :> |
| 02:16.12 | asg | jharrison: ;) |
| 02:16.15 | jharrison | :) |
| 02:16.22 | guestish | gah! |
| 02:16.23 | Guerin | haha |
| 02:16.34 | guestish | omer07: please keep messages to the channel |
| 02:16.36 | Gibby | maybe... |
| 02:16.37 | jharrison | her family is getting the remains of frances |
| 02:16.42 | guestish | Seb: i like ham |
| 02:16.44 | jharrison | hope they dont get flooded out |
| 02:16.47 | Seb | guestish: good |
| 02:17.06 | guestish | omer07: i dont know, ask someone else |
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| 02:17.13 | jharrison | hehe |
| 02:17.19 | guestish | Seb: got any pie to go with it? |
| 02:17.19 | oxox | ? |
| 02:17.28 | jharrison | asg: what does that mean exactly? |
| 02:17.30 | Guerin | asg: can you still not vote in the US? |
| 02:17.35 | asg | Guerin: nope |
| 02:17.54 | g4lt | jharrison naw, that'll happen when Ivan hits later ;P |
| 02:18.04 | Seb | yeah, that's my problem too; since I live here, it's painful not to be able to vote |
| 02:18.09 | jharrison | g4lt: ugg dont remind me |
| 02:18.16 | Seb | to help them confused citizens out :) |
| 02:18.17 | asg | jharrison: I'm English, yet I live and work in the US (have for 21 years). The Americans were pissed at being taxed in the colonies without being represented in parliment |
| 02:18.25 | Gibby | Are you all kerry fans? |
| 02:18.34 | jharrison | asg: oh ok |
| 02:18.35 | guestish | Gibby: kerry? what is this kerry? |
| 02:18.39 | Gibby | lol |
| 02:18.41 | asg | jharrison: just a reversal of fortune |
| 02:18.45 | Seb | Gibby: prolly not as much as Bush haters |
| 02:18.47 | asg | Guerin: that's abrotman |
| 02:18.53 | guestish | Gibby: i say we should elect a tree to office! |
| 02:18.54 | Guerin | ah, really? |
| 02:18.59 | Seb | but politics in #debian, oh well... |
| 02:19.00 | Guerin | asg: where are you then? |
| 02:19.02 | asg | jharrison: personally, I don't care, I just think it's funny |
| 02:19.04 | g4lt | guestish I bet Bush wouldn't mind asking that nowadays ;P |
| 02:19.06 | asg | Guerin: North Carolina |
| 02:19.12 | asg | Guerin: Charlotte |
| 02:19.17 | Gibby | heh |
| 02:19.22 | asg | Guerin: where the remnants of Frances are watering my lawn |
| 02:19.24 | guestish | ;) |
| 02:19.26 | Guerin | ah |
| 02:19.31 | jharrison | asg: the US even taxes citizens who have not lived IN the US for years |
| 02:19.31 | abrotman | what did i do! |
| 02:19.34 | abrotman | !sing asg |
| 02:19.36 | asg | Guerin: and making it hard to have a cig without getting a bit soggy |
| 02:19.37 | omer07 | guetish:ok |
| 02:19.38 | abrotman | !sing guerin |
| 02:19.41 | abrotman | damn it |
| 02:19.43 | Guerin | asg: haha |
| 02:19.45 | asg | jharrison: yeah, that doesn't surprise me |
| 02:19.47 | g4lt | asg and where your B-Ball team sucks ;P |
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| 02:19.59 | Seb | heheh |
| 02:20.00 | asg | g4lt: we don't have one in Charlotte |
| 02:20.06 | Seb | used to suck |
| 02:20.07 | guestish | !pie Seb |
| 02:20.08 | Seb | :> |
| 02:20.08 | g4lt | asg the Hornets? |
| 02:20.11 | guestish | !pie |
| 02:20.11 | dpkg | [pie] NOT a mathematical term. It's a food. or about 8.539734222677. |
| 02:20.12 | oxox | ... |
| 02:20.16 | guestish | Seb: =D |
| 02:20.19 | jharrison | asg: you are in charlotte NC? |
| 02:20.21 | asg | g4lt: basketball, they moved to new orleans years ago |
| 02:20.24 | asg | jharrison: yes |
| 02:20.30 | asg | g4lt: we have a new team now, the bobcats |
| 02:20.33 | Seb | guestish: nice |
| 02:20.33 | jharrison | asg: I passed through your airport a little while back |
| 02:20.36 | dan2 | asg: hey |
| 02:20.38 | asg | g4lt: yeah, I'm totally no impressed |
| 02:20.41 | Seb | asg: looks promising :D |
| 02:20.48 | dan2 | asg: I think I fractured my thumb today, insurance is going to have a field day |
| 02:20.49 | jharrison | asg: i like what they have done with the place |
| 02:20.54 | asg | jharrison: it used to be fun to go and hang out and watch planes, can't do that anymore though |
| 02:21.00 | ozzloy | so anyone wanna help me with setting up my debian box as a firewall? |
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| 02:21.04 | asg | jharrison: yeah, they fixed it up some years back. |
| 02:21.05 | jharrison | asg: I would be going through there in december but us air is too expensive so im going delta |
| 02:21.08 | jharrison | :-P |
| 02:21.09 | Guerin | dan2: you are accident-prone |
| 02:21.13 | asg | jharrison: :) |
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| 02:21.18 | dan2 | Guerin: I play a contact sport |
| 02:21.25 | asg | jharrison: if you're in the neighborhood, give me a buzz |
| 02:21.26 | Seb | ozzloy: how about a nice slice of Netfilter howto to start with ? |
| 02:21.28 | jharrison | got to head into the mountains to see the hillbillies |
| 02:21.31 | zignig | dan2: fun with hammers ? |
| 02:21.32 | jharrison | asg: sure |
| 02:21.34 | g4lt | dan2 see what happens when you put your chair under your desk when reading pr0n? ;P |
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| 02:21.39 | Guerin | dan2: in the immortal words of Oliver Stone: "You should be more careful." |
| 02:21.45 | asg | g4lt: heh |
| 02:21.48 | dan2 | g4lt: (american) football |
| 02:21.49 | scarynetworkguy | Guerin: heh |
| 02:21.51 | jharrison | asg: I would like to meet some of my fellow debian brethern |
| 02:21.52 | kingsley | I can report with little fear of contradiction that version 4.3.0.dfsg.1-7 of X has worked flawlessley so far, for all of about three minutes. |
| 02:21.54 | ozzloy | Seb: i'm guessing that's a program used in creating the firewall |
| 02:22.05 | guestish | ozzloy: iptables |
| 02:22.09 | Seb | ozzloy: go read it, rather than making wild guesses :) |
| 02:22.15 | asg | jharrison: yeah, I'm hoping to make Helsinki next year |
| 02:22.25 | jharrison | helsinki? |
| 02:22.30 | jharrison | next debconf? |
| 02:22.30 | asg | jharrison: next deb conf |
| 02:22.31 | Seb | apt, tell ozzloy about netfilter |
| 02:22.33 | jharrison | sigh |
| 02:22.36 | dan2 | asg: altho the thumb is only a minor detail when I forced the QB to fumble and ran for a touchdown winning the game |
| 02:22.42 | jharrison | why do they make them always on the other side of the world |
| 02:22.43 | asg | dan2: w00t |
| 02:22.44 | Seb | dpkg, tell ozzloy about netfilter |
| 02:22.46 | Seb | there |
| 02:22.54 | ozzloy | thanx |
| 02:22.58 | jharrison | do we not have huge freaking hotels here with nice conference rooms and such |
| 02:23.04 | asg | jharrison: it's a global phenomenon |
| 02:23.16 | jharrison | its time for debconf to go tropical |
| 02:23.21 | jharrison | :-P |
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| 02:23.25 | Guerin | jharrison: wasn't the last one in Brasil? |
| 02:23.27 | asg | jharrison: plus, it gives us a chance to go to Helsinki |
| 02:23.40 | jharrison | Guerin: um brazil == way way way south |
| 02:23.40 | asg | Guerin: yeah (not my scene since I don't like the heat) |
| 02:23.43 | kingsley | That's a lot of changes for a minor-release. |
| 02:23.46 | Gibby | Is it possible that bad ram fucked my installation of debian via a kernel panic (or two or three)? |
| 02:23.59 | jharrison | Guerin: way south |
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| 02:24.14 | Guerin | jharrison: but not the other side of the world. And don't talk to me about travelling really really really long distances to go anywhere - I come from New Zealand, mate. |
| 02:24.15 | jharrison | asg: yeah |
| 02:24.16 | Gibby | That would be annoying |
| 02:24.25 | kingsley | Gibby: The short answer is "yes", but so could many other problems. memtest can check your ram. |
| 02:24.25 | jharrison | Guerin: I know |
| 02:24.33 | guestish | test |
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| 02:24.37 | Guerin | fail |
| 02:24.37 | g4lt | jharrison not if you're in McMurdo ;P |
| 02:24.39 | jharrison | Guerin: but its not a matter of the traveling long distances |
| 02:24.41 | Gibby | kingsley:memtest86? |
| 02:24.47 | jharrison | Guerin: its a matter of finances |
| 02:24.53 | peterS | yes, guestish, you're still online |
| 02:24.55 | Guerin | jharrison: hence you complaining about having to go to the other side of the world? |
| 02:24.58 | kingsley | Gibby: I think so. I seem to recall there are two. |
| 02:25.11 | Gibby | hmm.. okay, thanks |
| 02:25.13 | jharrison | Guerin: yes right cause I cant afford to go to the other side of the world |
| 02:25.15 | guestish | just turned on colored nicknames, freaky stuff |
| 02:25.19 | Guerin | jharrison: heh, you'll find the relationship between "distance travelled" and "cost" to be quite clear. |
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| 02:25.31 | kingsley | Gibby: apt-cache search memtest |
| 02:25.41 | Gibby | 'Twould be annoying if I had bad ram AND a fscked installation |
| 02:25.55 | guestish | Gibby: quite |
| 02:25.59 | jharrison | Gibby: run memtest |
| 02:26.01 | Gibby | It's not on debian stable 3.0, that's for sure |
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| 02:26.18 | kingsley | My mouse pointer seems to move faster with 4.3.0.dfsg.1-7. |
| 02:26.21 | guestish | toresbe: make it! :) |
| 02:26.25 | toresbe | Anyone know of a trivia bot I could start making questions with? |
| 02:26.30 | g4lt | Gibby on woody, I think it's still called memtest86 |
| 02:26.43 | kingsley | toresbe: I suggest consulting Google. |
| 02:26.50 | Gibby | There's no mem anything on the cd |
| 02:26.59 | jharrison | :-P |
| 02:27.02 | toresbe | kingsley: I did, didn't really turn up anything useable |
| 02:27.05 | g4lt | !info memtest86 woody |
| 02:27.08 | dpkg | memtest86: (A thorough real-mode memory tester.), section misc, is optional. Version: 2.9-1 (woody), Packaged size: 45 kB, Installed size: 164 kB |
| 02:27.19 | toresbe | kingsley: Plus, I need some other geek to host it |
| 02:27.20 | kingsley | toresbe: Did you search both Google's web and usenet archives? |
| 02:27.35 | Gibby | besides, I can't install anything that doesn't come with cd since my installation is screwed |
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| 02:27.46 | jharrison | !postfix |
| 02:27.46 | dpkg | i guess postfix is a really cool MTA, which tries not to be too unlike sendmail so that its hard to get used to but is much better than sendmail or is at http://www.postfix.org. |
| 02:27.58 | jharrison | theres a good dpkg |
| 02:27.58 | toresbe | kingsley: Not thoroughly, but I'm on a VERY bad connection, each site takes 30 secs to load in text only, and kills off most of my SSH connections |
| 02:28.02 | gumpish | there's a bootable memtest cd image out there |
| 02:28.03 | Gibby | I guess I burn memtest86 to a bootable cd, and work with that |
| 02:28.13 | jharrison | Gibby: sure that works |
| 02:28.14 | Gibby | gumpish: read my thought |
| 02:28.30 | jharrison | off to bed |
| 02:28.34 | jharrison | goodnight everyone |
| 02:28.34 | kingsley | toresbe: How may Kbytes/second? |
| 02:28.34 | Gibby | later |
| 02:28.49 | toresbe | kingsley: Peak, 70. |
| 02:28.50 | toresbe | ' |
| 02:29.03 | dan2 | !exim |
| 02:29.03 | dpkg | exim is a message transfer agent developed at University of Cambridge for use on Unix systems connected to the internet. Freely available under the GPL. It is similar to Smail 3. http://www.exim.org, very much like sendmail, including security holes all over the place, consider switching to exim4 for security and speed improvements |
| 02:29.04 | toresbe | kingsley: But it's WLAN, so it breaks often. |
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| 02:29.31 | kingsley | toresbe: I was able to google for years with 26K by disabling images. |
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| 02:30.06 | asg | jharrison: night |
| 02:30.08 | toresbe | kingsley: Yeah, but the problem is that it's very impractical. I was, however, asking not only about the existance of such a bot, but opinions. |
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| 02:30.19 | dan2 | asg: you leaving too? |
| 02:30.27 | asg | dan2: in a bit |
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| 02:30.37 | asg | dan2: early start tomorrow |
| 02:31.04 | burnt-toast | is there any way to alias user names without creating a new account. i.e. Buddy and buddy are the same user account / name (this is for local accounts) |
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| 02:31.29 | asg | burnt-toast: you can create a user with a different name and the same UID |
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| 02:31.34 | asg | burnt-toast: it isn't recommended though |
| 02:31.37 | toresbe | guestish: Listen, will you be my partner on the project? |
| 02:31.43 | dan2 | asg: same, and I promised myself I wouldn't stay up past 11 |
| 02:31.48 | dan2 | asg: spanish is killer |
| 02:31.52 | burnt-toast | this is for low security LAN samba sharing |
| 02:32.01 | asg | dan2: not as bad as classical greek |
| 02:32.04 | guestish | toresbe: project? |
| 02:32.16 | toresbe | guestish: #geektrivia |
| 02:32.17 | asg | dan2: but it's a good language worth learning |
| 02:32.36 | burnt-toast | asg: will the passwords be maintained as one or would they be separately maintained in the file? |
| 02:32.50 | asg | burnt-toast: they would be maintained separately |
| 02:32.58 | scarynetworkguy | grrrrr |
| 02:32.59 | burnt-toast | asg ok thank you |
| 02:33.13 | asg | burnt-toast: though if you were really twisted, you could wrap 'passwd' to take care of that |
| 02:33.18 | asg | burnt-toast: again, not recommended |
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| 02:33.35 | burnt-toast | asg: how would that work? |
| 02:33.39 | scarynetworkguy | asg: stop giving him ideas |
| 02:33.44 | scarynetworkguy | :) |
| 02:33.50 | burnt-toast | lol |
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| 02:34.20 | asg | burnt-toast: you would replace /usr/bin/passwd with a script or program to intercept and analyse input and make more intelligent decisions based on your particular local problem |
| 02:34.23 | asg | scarynetworkguy: hehe |
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| 02:34.40 | burnt-toast | i understand that i dont know enough to make a high security configuration... so i figure i will learn on the useless LAN setup |
| 02:34.41 | asg | scarynetworkguy: while I don't recommend it, there may be a legitimate business case |
| 02:34.42 | ardy | what is the correct chat room to ask how to port win32 C++ code to gcc c++ code? |
| 02:34.42 | scarynetworkguy | asg: yeah laugh it up |
| 02:34.42 | burnt-toast | heh |
| 02:34.49 | scarynetworkguy | asg: :P |
| 02:34.59 | oxox | ? |
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| 02:35.05 | zruty | ardy: not this one |
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| 02:35.24 | asg | scarynetworkguy: :) |
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| 02:35.50 | burnt-toast | asg: my local problem is the windows machines not allowing me to change user names without disturbing the windows domain... |
| 02:35.51 | asg | ardy: #c or #c++ |
| 02:35.55 | zruty | he left |
| 02:36.21 | zruty | definitely not #c |
| 02:36.29 | zruty | #c gets pissed when you ask c++ questions |
| 02:36.34 | asg | burnt-toast: you could authenticate your linux users using samba + pam (depending on how your windows users are currently handled) |
| 02:37.01 | oxox | F# |
| 02:37.14 | asg | oxox: try #music |
| 02:37.18 | burnt-toast | asg: hmm is that having to do with configuring the winbindd service to query the windows domain controller? |
| 02:37.20 | oxox | @!#!@$#@$ |
| 02:37.30 | g4lt | oxox no, we don't care about your grade in .nyet |
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| 02:37.35 | asg | burnt-toast: yeah, or using libpam-krb5 or libpam-ldap to hit AD |
| 02:38.05 | burnt-toast | asg: in a default AD setup would one or the other function without changing the AD setup? |
| 02:38.05 | Peri | chanel in spanish? |
| 02:38.10 | FlimFlamMan | wtf is a DSA |
| 02:38.23 | idnar | Debian Security Advisory? |
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| 02:38.28 | g4lt | !spanish |
| 02:38.28 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish speakers: please go to #debian-es, you will get a lot more help there. |
| 02:38.29 | libpcp | Hello everyone |
| 02:38.39 | scarynetworkguy | !tell FlimFlamMan about DSA |
| 02:38.42 | Xenguy | FlimFlamMan: you need the answer to that question :-) |
| 02:38.45 | idnar | oh, Announcement |
| 02:38.49 | libpcp | where can i get the postgresql 7.4 for debian 3 woody? |
| 02:38.52 | Peri | thanks |
| 02:38.56 | asg | burnt-toast: yes, both libpam-krb5 or libpam-ldap will work |
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| 02:39.09 | g4lt | FlimFlamMan something more important than air... |
| 02:39.16 | asg | burnt-toast: for authentication, you still need to create local accounts (adduser --disabled-password <user>) |
| 02:39.17 | libpcp | i have here the postgresql 7.1.2 and i want to upgrade it |
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| 02:39.31 | maher | libpcp: why do you need a newer copy |
| 02:39.39 | asg | libpcp: /msg dpkg backports or compile from source |
| 02:39.41 | burnt-toast | asg: sweet i didnt know that... hey one other question if you have time. have they fixed the problem with linux machines not being able to read windows XP fileshares yet? |
| 02:39.41 | asg | scarynetworkguy: why? |
| 02:39.43 | Xenguy | libpcp: typically for woody/stable you would check 'backports.org', then 'apt-get.org' |
| 02:39.54 | asg | burnt-toast: that I don't know, #samba would know |
| 02:39.55 | Xenguy | libpcp: these are 'unofficial' packages |
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| 02:40.02 | maher | burnt-toast: you can read but not write |
| 02:40.02 | asg | burnt-toast: or the free O'Reilly book on the subject |
| 02:40.27 | burnt-toast | thanks asg and maher... ill check out #samba and see if they have more info... |
| 02:40.31 | oxox | free? |
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| 02:40.34 | libpcp | Xenguy: where can i get it? |
| 02:40.35 | asg | burnt-toast: you're welcome |
| 02:40.44 | asg | oxox: www.oreilly.com/openbook |
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| 02:40.59 | oxox | free all in china... |
| 02:41.00 | Xenguy | libpcp: check those URLs -- that's it :-) |
| 02:41.07 | asg | oxox: not that kind of free |
| 02:41.18 | scarynetworkguy | asg: for aiding and abetting the setup of a "low security configuration" :P |
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| 02:41.30 | asg | scarynetworkguy: libpam-krb5? |
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| 02:41.52 | asg | scarynetworkguy: or the wrapping passwd and fiddling with /etc/passwd? |
| 02:42.00 | paxl | Can somone tell me how to reduce mouse sencivity ?? |
| 02:42.11 | Xenguy | paxl: xset ? |
| 02:42.13 | asg | paxl: man xset |
| 02:42.15 | scarynetworkguy | asg: the wrapping passwd and fiddling with /etc/passwd |
| 02:42.29 | asg | scarynetworkguy: yeah, I repeatedly told him it wasn't recommended though |
| 02:42.33 | paxl | I mean in the configuration |
| 02:42.33 | scarynetworkguy | asg: I rather liked the libpam-krb5 |
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| 02:42.42 | holycow | https://portal.aero.und.edu/twiki/bin/view/Know/DebianLinux <-- neato, lots of info on corporate migration for servers to debian ... uni of north dakota apperently has a few deb servers running :_ |
| 02:42.46 | holycow | :) even |
| 02:42.56 | asg | scarynetworkguy: we use it to great effect (or did until we found that w2k3 and woody's kerberos don't like each other) |
| 02:42.59 | scarynetworkguy | asg: yes you did that's why you only lost your beer otherwise I would have pulled out the ultimate foodie smite |
| 02:43.09 | asg | scarynetworkguy: hahaha |
| 02:43.13 | scarynetworkguy | asg: that sucks |
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| 02:43.30 | scarynetworkguy | w2k3 and woody not playing well |
| 02:43.31 | asg | scarynetworkguy: well, it works with sarge (kerberos 1.3.1 or greater) |
| 02:43.43 | scarynetworkguy | asg: pretty cool pretty cool |
| 02:43.44 | asg | scarynetworkguy: and we can keep a 2k box up until sarge is stable |
| 02:44.09 | asg | scarynetworkguy: I'm just pissed that they upgraded all our servers without a) consulting me and b) checking what the implications would be |
| 02:44.25 | scarynetworkguy | asg: excellent. Yeah I get fucked like that myself all the time :) |
| 02:44.48 | asg | scarynetworkguy: hehe, it wouldn't be so bad if it didn't take down our entire financial system (Solaris 8) as well |
| 02:45.14 | oxox | -_- |
| 02:45.19 | asg | O_o |
| 02:45.27 | oxox | =.= |
| 02:45.29 | scarynetworkguy | asg: when I'm in charge people who do stuff like that are going to be forced to watch Emeril 24/7 till the go insane and scoop their own eyeballs out with rusty spoons |
| 02:45.31 | asg | (@) |
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| 02:45.34 | Xenguy | xxxxxxxxxx |
| 02:45.35 | scarynetworkguy | asg: ouchies |
| 02:45.38 | asg | scarynetworkguy: hehehe |
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| 02:45.47 | scarynetworkguy | asg: :D |
| 02:46.00 | asg | scarynetworkguy: it happens, just another day on the job |
| 02:46.07 | g4lt | scarynetworkguy BAM |
| 02:46.10 | scarynetworkguy | asg: yuppers |
| 02:46.25 | gumpish | let's kick it up a notch |
| 02:46.25 | holycow | http://ecsusa.com/aboutus/pr_082604.html <--check out the second last paragraph :D |
| 02:46.27 | holycow | heh |
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| 02:46.30 | asg | scarynetworkguy: like how w2k3 dns uses packets by default that are incompatible with yahoo mail |
| 02:46.31 | scarynetworkguy | g4lt: Garlic!! Oooooooooooooo!!! |
| 02:46.35 | holycow | and the linux virus spreads |
| 02:46.37 | holycow | yipeeee! |
| 02:46.41 | scarynetworkguy | asg: you have to be shitting me |
| 02:46.50 | asg | scarynetworkguy: yeah, took a while to figure that one out |
| 02:46.55 | oneo99 | anyone see that intel advertises a CPI lower than 1 on their processors? is that even possible? |
| 02:47.01 | scarynetworkguy | asg: that's just evil |
| 02:47.04 | asg | scarynetworkguy: they use a large packet size that yahoo's cisco routers apparently don't like |
| 02:47.17 | asg | scarynetworkguy: that was our symptom, I'm sure it affects others |
| 02:47.40 | scarynetworkguy | asg: heh Yeah don't get me started on Cisco :) |