| 00:00.31 | PerfDave | simmerz: Uhm, tcpdump the DHCP request? Turn up logging on your DHCP client or run it in the foreground? |
| 00:00.37 | afcpack | hmm... which xmame to get for nvidia card... gl or svga? |
| 00:00.37 | dondelelcaro | PerfDave: absolutely. That's the namserver configuration option of isc's dhcp server... but based on simmerz's /etc/resolv.conf, that's not what's going on. |
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| 00:00.54 | PerfDave | afcpack: GL if you're using the nVidia binary drivers, SVGA otherwise at a guess. |
| 00:00.54 | simmerz | ok thanks |
| 00:00.56 | simmerz | I'll have a play around with it tomorrow |
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| 00:01.02 | afcpack | PerfDave: gl then :) |
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| 00:01.16 | hasan` | Please look we cant solve this in our channel : <ahmet125> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these.<ahmet125> The following packages have unmet dependencies:<ahmet125> kdeaddons: Depends: kontact-plugins (>= 4:3.2.3-2) but it is not installed <ahmet125> E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f. |
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| 00:01.36 | PerfDave | hasan`: Unstable? |
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| 00:02.03 | PerfDave | !info kdeaddons sid |
| 00:02.05 | dondelelcaro | !info kontact-plugins |
| 00:02.06 | dpkg | kdeaddons: (add-on plugins and applets provided with KDE), section kde, is optional. Version: 4:3.2.3-2 (sid), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 40 kB |
| 00:02.08 | dpkg | kontact-plugins: (plugins for Kontact, the KDE groupware client), section kde, is optional. Version: 4:3.2.3-2 (sid), Packaged size: 51 kB, Installed size: 184 kB |
| 00:02.14 | hasan` | PerfDave , yes |
| 00:02.26 | dondelelcaro | hasan`: run apt-get update, and install kontact-plugins. |
| 00:02.36 | PerfDave | hasan`: Do an apt-get update first? If that fails, check the BTS. |
| 00:03.07 | dondelelcaro | either that, or there is another error above that which is keeping kontact-plugins from actually being installed... |
| 00:03.34 | PerfDave | dondelelcaro: Hence my suggestion to check the BTS ;) |
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| 00:03.40 | simmerz | PerfDave: in its current state, with me having manually editied /etc/resolv.conf, will the dhcp client rewrite it when i reboot? |
| 00:03.55 | Phoenician | whats movie player for debian that i can find on apt ? |
| 00:04.07 | dondelelcaro | Phoenician: xine, aviplay. |
| 00:04.20 | PerfDave | simmerz: Don't know. I know that if the DHCP server returns *some* DNS-related information, it will overwrite /etc/resolv.conf. If it doesn't, I have no idea. |
| 00:04.20 | dondelelcaro | simmerz: that depends on whether your dhcp server provides a nameserver or not. If it doesn't, no. If it does, yes. |
| 00:04.24 | directhex | Phoenician, videolan client |
| 00:04.29 | amorphix | not getting any internet access on my new linux server guys |
| 00:04.32 | PerfDave | Phoenician: vlc |
| 00:04.35 | PerfDave | VLC is teh win |
| 00:04.45 | amorphix | cud use some help :-/ |
| 00:04.47 | maher | amorphix: what do the logs say about dhcp |
| 00:05.10 | amorphix | maher: well im not using dhcp, I'm using another linux box as a gateway |
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| 00:05.25 | hasan` | <ahmet125> trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde3/kcm_kontactknt.so', which is also in package kontact<ahmet125> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)<ahmet125> Errors were encountered while processing:<ahmet125> /var/cache/apt/archives/kontact-plugins_4%3a3.2.3-2_i386.deb<ahmet125> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
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| 00:05.35 | maher | amorphix: did you set up a static ip |
| 00:05.38 | amorphix | just dont understand why i cant access sites |
| 00:05.48 | Phoenician | wolf:~# apt-get install xine |
| 00:05.48 | Phoenician | Reading Package Lists... Done |
| 00:05.48 | Phoenician | Building Dependency Tree... Done |
| 00:05.48 | Phoenician | E: Couldn't find package xine |
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| 00:05.51 | simmerz | thanks guys! |
| 00:05.51 | amorphix | maher: yeah, and i set gateway and dns |
| 00:06.01 | PerfDave | amorphix: Does the gateway work for other machines on your network? |
| 00:06.01 | maher | amorphix: can you ping the gw |
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| 00:06.08 | amorphix | PerfDave: yu[ |
| 00:06.10 | amorphix | PerfDave: yup |
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| 00:06.16 | dondelelcaro | Phoenician: you want xine-ui most likely |
| 00:06.20 | PerfDave | amorphix: Try tracerouting an external IP? |
| 00:06.30 | amorphix | maher: no i cant ping the gateway machine, but neither can other machines on my LAN |
| 00:06.30 | PerfDave | Phoenician: apt-cache search xine |
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| 00:06.34 | mentor | Phoenician: /topic; /msg dpkg guidelines, etc. |
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| 00:06.55 | maher | amorphix: can you ping other machines on the lan |
| 00:07.05 | hasan` | doldelelcaro can u look the error after u said . |
| 00:07.05 | amorphix | PerfDave: doesnt work |
| 00:07.10 | amorphix | maher: yeah |
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| 00:07.49 | amorphix | PerfDave: traceroute is working! sorry |
| 00:07.53 | Phoenician | thnx guys |
| 00:08.28 | amorphix | how come traceroute works and no other services? |
| 00:08.34 | FreeGuy | hello |
| 00:08.48 | FreeGuy | Question: How do I get to line 4051 on a PICO document? |
| 00:08.55 | amorphix | its working now! |
| 00:09.00 | dondelelcaro | FreeGuy: first off, use something else, like nano. |
| 00:09.00 | amorphix | i have Internet access!!!!!!!! |
| 00:09.11 | FreeGuy | ok, I have that too |
| 00:09.13 | directhex | FreeGuy, don't ask us, pico isn't in debian |
| 00:09.22 | WiFiTux | FreeGuy, use joe or nano or something!! |
| 00:09.23 | dondelelcaro | FreeGuy: then nano +4051 file |
| 00:09.27 | FreeGuy | ok man, at least tell me how in nano which IS on Debian |
| 00:09.33 | amorphix | u guys rock |
| 00:09.38 | dondelelcaro | FreeGuy: eg, man nano; and read. |
| 00:11.38 | FreeGuy | thx dondeclaro |
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| 00:13.07 | Bz | hi, i want to install a basic debian server |
| 00:13.10 | Bz | which CD ISO images do I need? |
| 00:13.21 | Bz | Just stock, and i iwll install JBoss on it |
| 00:13.27 | cafuego | Bz: That depends on your internet connection. |
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| 00:13.44 | sparq_ | Bz: if you have reasonably fast net, just use one of the netboot images |
| 00:13.49 | cafuego | Bz: Do you have something DSL or Cable-ish? |
| 00:13.54 | Bz | yeh, dsl |
| 00:14.17 | sparq_ | hell, even if it's slow net, you're going to want to upgrade stuff anyway |
| 00:14.25 | cafuego | Bz: Then get the new debian-installer netinst iso (100Mb or so) and use that. |
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| 00:14.51 | Bz | is the netiso like gentoo? |
| 00:14.55 | cafuego | Bz: It will install the current "testing" system, which should be fine for a basic server, and is due to be released as stable over the next month. |
| 00:14.55 | Bz | where you download the packages you want online? |
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| 00:15.07 | freemo | hi |
| 00:15.14 | dondelelcaro | Bz: no. You don't have to spend n hours compiling those packages |
| 00:15.16 | freemo | this is teh first time ive ever used debian |
| 00:15.19 | cafuego | Bz: Well, yes and no. You download only what you want via the net, but you don't need to compile them. |
| 00:15.26 | Bz | arrr ok. |
| 00:15.29 | Bz | what if i dont want to download it |
| 00:15.31 | Bz | what ISO do i need? |
| 00:15.38 | Bz | 5, 6, 7 ? |
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| 00:15.55 | cafuego | Bz: I'm not sure there is a full set of sarge ISOs yet, so then you'd need Woody. That is 8 ISOs. |
| 00:16.10 | freemo | first thing i did once i was all set up was type "apt-get install gnome" it went thru everything and seemed to do its thing allright ..but if i try to do "startx" i get an error. is there something else i need to do after i apt-get a program before i can sue that program? |
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| 00:16.45 | cafuego | Bz: Mind you, the download part of an install takes about 15 mins on a 512K dsl connection, so it's not like it's huge. |
| 00:16.58 | Weeble | boink |
| 00:17.10 | cafuego | Bz: If you then add apache/java/some other stuff, you're maybe looking at another half hour tops. |
| 00:17.17 | PerfDave | cafuego: There are 13 Sarge ISOs available from http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 00:17.28 | freemo | i would really apreciate any help anyone can give on this matter |
| 00:17.40 | Weeble | and all of them are useless PerfDave ? |
| 00:17.43 | directhex | freemo, an x server m,ay help. apt-get install x-window-system |
| 00:17.47 | cafuego | Bz: Thing is, if you install stable you'll end up downloading anyway, because there are heaps of security updates. |
| 00:17.57 | NuTTeR | freemo: get gdm and start it from /etc/init.d/gdm |
| 00:17.58 | somiaj | freemo: apt-get install x-window-system-core |
| 00:18.12 | PerfDave | freemo: What error do you get when you type "startx"? |
| 00:18.19 | cafuego | PerfDave: Ugh. No DVD images yet? |
| 00:18.20 | freemo | i think it already got the xserver thou |
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| 00:18.30 | NuTTeR | does gnome not depend on an x server? |
| 00:18.33 | PerfDave | cafuego: I think there may be via jigdo. |
| 00:18.38 | directhex | NuTTeR, no, it can be run without x |
| 00:18.43 | PerfDave | !depends gnome |
| 00:18.45 | dpkg | gnome: depends on gnome-desktop-environment (= 58), gnome-office (= 58), bluefish, evolution | balsa, gnome-cups-manager, gnome-system-tools (>= 0.90.0), gnome-themes-extras, magicdev | gnome-volume-manager, rhythmbox, synaptic | gnome-apt, totem, xscreensaver |
| 00:18.48 | directhex | NuTTeR, e.g. by using ssh, and a remote x server |
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| 00:19.05 | cafuego | PerfDave: That might *just* fit on a dual layer disc. |
| 00:19.07 | afcpack | rc2 of gnome 2.8 should be coming soon... |
| 00:19.08 | somiaj | NuTTeR: it probably just depends on teh xlibs |
| 00:19.09 | freemo | PerfDave it says "usr/bin/X11/X file or directory not found" however X11 does exist with many of the xserver files in it |
| 00:19.24 | somiaj | freemo: apt-get install x-window-system-core |
| 00:19.28 | NuTTeR | directhex: wouldnt you then be using the gnome binarys on the remote server and its x server? |
| 00:19.33 | freemo | however many files that i belive are speicifit to xserver are there |
| 00:19.35 | PerfDave | !find /usr/bin/X11/X |
| 00:19.36 | freemo | somiaj ill try |
| 00:19.43 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of '/usr/bin/X11/X' returned no results. |
| 00:19.46 | Julli | What's a good apt package to set a desktop background? (I'm not spotting any with apt-cache search) |
| 00:19.54 | directhex | NuTTeR, i could install gnoem on my server, and run gnome on there using my local x server for display |
| 00:19.58 | somiaj | PerfDave: I belive he is probably missing xbase-clients or somethign like that. |
| 00:20.05 | PerfDave | somiaj: Quite possibly. |
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| 00:20.27 | PerfDave | Anyway, I'm drunk and I've found the wedding invite I needed, so I'm off to bed |
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| 00:21.01 | NuTTeR | directhex: oh ok |
| 00:21.44 | freemo | well it is downloading something .. so i suppose i didnt have the xwindows system in there.. althou i dont know why i had xfreeconfig and all the other files in X11 then |
| 00:22.05 | freemo | will this in anyway overwrite the gnome install.. maybe if it edited xwindows config files? |
| 00:22.41 | cafuego | freemo: Not without asking you if it may overwrite anything, no. |
| 00:23.01 | freemo | cafuego thats very polite, none of my exgirlfriends ever did that :) |
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| 00:23.40 | roblt | Anyone have a repo for xorg I could add to my sources.list? I've googled it to death and can't find anything. |
| 00:23.58 | cafuego | freemo: <heh> |
| 00:24.08 | cafuego | !x.org |
| 00:24.08 | dpkg | <daniels> x.org won't make it into sid for at least a while, possibly ever. right now we're working on making the modular tree (fd.o) actually work and be useful with the xfree86/xorg drivers, and that's where debian is probably going. |
| 00:24.09 | somiaj | freemo: you were most likely just missing xbase-clients, so even though you had the server you had no client to connect to it (ie xinit (startx)) |
| 00:24.24 | cafuego | roblt: Also see '/msg dpkg xorg' |
| 00:24.28 | somiaj | cafuego: xorg I belive is the more currrent factoid |
| 00:24.43 | somiaj | cafuego: hehe, oops, see ya know that one...*grins* |
| 00:24.48 | kingsley | Is it possible that a new ATAPI CD/DVD drive on the ide-scsi module's scsi bus number "1" could somehow cause scsi bus number "0" to hang? |
| 00:25.08 | cafuego | !x.org =~ s/going./going. Ask me about 'xorg' for more up-to-date information./ |
| 00:25.08 | dpkg | cafuego: OK |
| 00:25.45 | freemo | somiaj we shall see anyminute.. assumign x-window-system-core installs that |
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| 00:26.16 | roblt | cafuego, thanks for the info. I just thought someone might have made an unofficial repo for xorg. Thanks again. |
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| 00:27.01 | freemo | beautiful .. it worked |
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| 00:27.25 | cafuego | amorphix: Yes, nepalsese egg and potato curry. |
| 00:27.33 | freemo | now my only question is.. how do i tell it to use gnome when i type "startx" instead of whatever it is booting into now? |
| 00:27.55 | amorphix | cafuego: u have that? |
| 00:27.59 | dondelelcaro | freemo: change your .Xsession. |
| 00:28.02 | cafuego | freemo: echo "exec gnome-session" > ~/.xsession |
| 00:28.08 | cafuego | amorphix: Last night, yes. |
| 00:28.11 | amorphix | :-) |
| 00:28.15 | dondelelcaro | s/X/x/ |
| 00:28.25 | freemo | thank you |
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| 00:29.04 | freemo | is that file suppose to be in my home directory .. cause its not? |
| 00:29.16 | cafuego | freemo: My command will create it. |
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| 00:29.38 | freemo | cafuego is there a place where i can make it the default for all users? |
| 00:29.48 | roblt | isn't .xinitrc sourced with startx, while .xsession is used with {k,x,g}dm? |
| 00:29.59 | amorphix | bob8: are there 7 more bobs before u? |
| 00:30.12 | roblt | amorphix: :) |
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| 00:30.36 | directhex | roblt, yes, that's my understanding |
| 00:30.45 | directhex | roblt, there's wdm and sdm too |
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| 00:31.09 | lsailor_ | can someone tell me what i need to add to /etc/procmailrc to have spamassassin move marked mail to spam instead of putting it in the inbox?? |
| 00:31.36 | amorphix | my server is making an ear-piercing alarm noise because I disconnected one of it's 4 fans and restarted it, now I can't reset the downgraded status.. only a piece of sticky tape and supress the noise from the alarm thingy |
| 00:32.09 | freemo | whats the name of that desktop environment.. ice something? |
| 00:32.19 | roblt | icewm |
| 00:32.21 | directhex | freemo, icewm? get xfce4 instead |
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| 00:33.01 | amorphix | roblt: i have a more difficult question, what happened to Deb and Ian? |
| 00:33.05 | freemo | directhex im jsut looking at the options right now.. see which is nicest |
| 00:33.19 | dondelelcaro | amorphix: they're still around... although, not heavily involved in Debian. |
| 00:33.28 | roblt | amorphix, sorry mate, I don't know who Deb and Ian are <shrug> |
| 00:33.44 | roblt | I'm pretty knew to debian, not to linux, but to debian. |
| 00:33.45 | amorphix | strange |
| 00:33.49 | tank_tom2 | Isn't Ian at Progeny? |
| 00:33.56 | NuTTeR | think so |
| 00:34.08 | roblt | s/knew/new |
| 00:34.10 | tank_tom2 | did he marry Deb? |
| 00:34.16 | amorphix | isnt Ian like rich or famous and on tv or something |
| 00:34.25 | lsailor_ | http://www.911review.org/Media/pentagon121.swf |
| 00:34.29 | Amadablam | lsailor_: have to looked at the procmailrc example here? http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/UsedViaProcmail |
| 00:34.30 | NuTTeR | was deb ever involved in debian other then the name thing? |
| 00:34.31 | lsailor_ | ewps wrong window |
| 00:35.03 | lsailor_ | Amadablam: thanks |
| 00:35.10 | amorphix | deb's contribution was the comfort and motivation she gave to Ian to keep going |
| 00:35.30 | directhex | amorphix, aka: boobies |
| 00:35.35 | amorphix | lol |
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| 00:37.02 | amorphix | does Bill Gates control the world? |
| 00:37.11 | tank_tom2 | no |
| 00:37.15 | directhex | amorphix, he controls his house. he has a big remote control to do it |
| 00:37.23 | lsailor_ | Amadablam: i have seen that info...semms to tell how to do use a .procmailrc file in each home dir... i would like to set this in /etc/procmailrc |
| 00:37.24 | amorphix | he must be lazy |
| 00:37.33 | Fluten | amorphix, bill gates will assimilate you with his borg-like powers!!! |
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| 00:37.53 | amorphix | Microsoft visited my server on a scout mission |
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| 00:38.05 | TobiMan | There out to get us |
| 00:38.21 | amorphix | 2 days later MSNBot arrived and started hammering my server every 30 minutes |
| 00:38.22 | Amadablam | lsailor_: sorry then, I don't think I can help...I've only set up spamassassin once, and that's the example I used...but good luck! |
| 00:38.34 | TobiMan | Does anyone use Debian GNU HURD, or GNU/NetBSD? |
| 00:38.41 | Julli | Do you guys know any good documentation on setting up wireless ethernet on debian? |
| 00:38.53 | TobiMan | Google knows all |
| 00:39.11 | amorphix | Google is facing competition from Microsoft's new super search project |
| 00:39.19 | greycat | competition is good. |
| 00:39.23 | freemo | how do i knwo what the command is to start a perticular desktop environment.. like gnome is exec gnome-environment .. so how would i figure out what the command for say icewm is or fluxbox? |
| 00:39.25 | lsailor_ | anyone else know what i need to add to /etc/procmailrc to have marked mail put in spam and not in the inbox? |
| 00:39.30 | TobiMan | I still dont give a shit |
| 00:39.38 | greycat | gnome-environment? since when? |
| 00:39.39 | amorphix | Microsoft is consuming and mirroring the web at an alarming rate |
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| 00:40.24 | directhex | freemo, guess. |
| 00:40.24 | greycat | freemo: for fluxbox, it's fluxbox. for fvwm, it's fvwm. |