| 00:00.06 | Xeron | apt you suck. |
| 00:00.28 | z36ra | j2re you suck |
| 00:00.33 | Xeron | that too |
| 00:00.35 | Xeron | :D |
| 00:00.45 | z36ra | hehe |
| 00:00.46 | Xeron | anyone know where I can get j2re1.4? |
| 00:00.58 | cheako | Xeron: have you tried apt-get.org? |
| 00:01.00 | wombachi | Xeron: did you try j2re from blackdown? |
| 00:01.02 | z36ra | umm. sun? |
| 00:01.07 | Xeron | ~j2re1.4 is not a working link |
| 00:01.08 | apt | ...but j2re1.4 is already something else... |
| 00:01.11 | cthomas | java.sun.com |
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| 00:01.19 | Wyzard | Xeron: Take a look at the "mpkg-j2se" package |
| 00:01.21 | Xeron | cheako- need sources, sun ~= m$. |
| 00:01.22 | caspercba | caphuso: already did lsmod in flood, but i dunno wich of them is from oss or alsa, could you help me? |
| 00:01.23 | cthomas | jump through the hoops and download... |
| 00:01.37 | Xeron | Wyzard- wombachi- Thanks, I'll try those |
| 00:01.46 | wombachi | Xeron: blackdown jre was only 1.3 if I remember well, not sure |
| 00:01.47 | caphuso | caspercba: none |
| 00:01.58 | caphuso | caspercba: and the snd_* ones are alsa |
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| 00:02.24 | cthomas | now that Solaris is going open source, I wonder if they'll finally open source their java implementations |
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| 00:02.26 | ABO | Anyone else having probs with sarge XFree on NForce2 and Radeon? |
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| 00:02.39 | z36ra | see! I aint so stupid. imagine sunjava coming from sun |
| 00:02.41 | Led_Zeppelin | anyone here use Apache James? I am trying to relay email, but seems I can't do it...can someone please help me? |
| 00:02.55 | lordurza | solaris is going opensource?? |
| 00:02.58 | lordurza | since when |
| 00:03.02 | caspercba | caphuso: when i start x i get a message: can't initialize dev/dsp, do you think i should reinstall alsa drivers? |
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| 00:03.10 | cthomas | it was on /. yesterday |
| 00:03.10 | lordurza | they still sell the solaris10 for much $$$ |
| 00:03.13 | Led_Zeppelin | lordurza, Solaris 10 is |
| 00:03.13 | cthomas | or maybe this morning |
| 00:03.13 | ZackB | does anyone have a mysql tut? |
| 00:03.17 | caphuso | caspercba: are you member of the audio group? |
| 00:03.18 | lordurza | some links? |
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| 00:03.26 | Wyzard | caspercba: /dev/dsp is the OSS sound device... if you're using ALSA, modprobe "snd-pcm-oss" |
| 00:03.32 | Led_Zeppelin | lordurza, SolarisSucks.com ? |
| 00:03.33 | Led_Zeppelin | heh |
| 00:03.34 | z36ra | Led_Zep: relay with Apache? |
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| 00:03.49 | caspercba | caphuso: yes |
| 00:03.49 | Led_Zeppelin | z36ra, yes with Apache James |
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| 00:04.09 | lordurza | I doubt that is even a page |
| 00:04.13 | caphuso | caspercba: what does 'cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp' say? |
| 00:04.16 | Led_Zeppelin | lordurza, it was a joke :-) |
| 00:04.23 | cheako | I would like to know if I have changed any conffiles, for lets say exi4-conf or exi4*?... |
| 00:04.27 | lordurza | fig as much but a link to these claims would be nice |
| 00:04.32 | z36ra | Led_Zep: this prolly aint the answer you want but cant you relay with sendmail or postfix? |
| 00:04.51 | Led_Zeppelin | z36ra, no, we are using Apache James in particular. |
| 00:04.55 | lordurza | and solarisucks is really a site btw |
| 00:05.10 | lordurza | appears to be a music band of some sort |
| 00:05.13 | z36ra | Led_Zep: OH! I C |
| 00:05.16 | cheako | dpkg usualy askes if you wana use the maint version, you know choose one of Z, V, Y, N. |
| 00:05.16 | dpkg | cheako: You are moron #4 |
| 00:05.49 | ZackB | doesn anyone have a mysql tut link, please? |
| 00:05.51 | cheako | dpkg: thank you, I feel special. |
| 00:05.51 | dpkg | cheako: my pleasure |
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| 00:06.02 | caphuso | ZackB: http://www.google.com/ |
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| 00:06.17 | Xeron | lol |
| 00:06.23 | ZackB | caphuso: i looked no debain. |
| 00:06.30 | ZackB | debian* |
| 00:06.36 | lordurza | anyone use seti@home with setistate? some help with the .setistaterc file =\ mine has no errors find the files yet has no output |
| 00:06.54 | caphuso | ZackB: what exactly do you need a mysql tutorial for? |
| 00:07.11 | Xeron | ZackB- www.php.net/mysql |
| 00:07.23 | Xeron | ZackB- or ask in #mysql |
| 00:07.28 | z36ra | Led_Zep: James2? |
| 00:07.41 | Led_Zeppelin | z36ra, yep |
| 00:07.48 | Led_Zeppelin | z36ra, every use it? I need some help here :-) |
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| 00:08.53 | cheako | dpkg: How can you manage to take over the world, if you can't asnwer a fue unsolvable questions? |
| 00:09.04 | dpkg | cheako: You are moron #5 |
| 00:09.11 | wombachi | where can I found altern deb repositories for non free soft like mplayer, bladeenc? |
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| 00:09.33 | Xeron | dpkg- can I have #6? |
| 00:09.40 | caphuso | wombachi: apt-get.org |
| 00:09.41 | z36ra | Led_Zep: nope but I know a little about mail. Lemme ask you this. Did you look at james.apache.org? |
| 00:09.53 | Led_Zeppelin | z36ra, yes! |
| 00:09.54 | cheako | dpkg: I think moron #6 might shrink my head for butting in line. |
| 00:09.54 | dpkg | parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, cheako |
| 00:10.02 | Led_Zeppelin | z36ra, glad you know stuff about mail, cuz I am clue less |
| 00:10.16 | Led_Zeppelin | z36ra, install it on your box, it just needs java, its a very very quick install |
| 00:10.17 | wombachi | caphuso: ok, I'll check it now :) |
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| 00:11.30 | cheako | Any hoo, these bots arre entertaining. Don't they distract any one other then me? |
| 00:11.30 | thomas_adam | cheako: No, since we use them to do useful things. |
| 00:11.40 | caphuso | like foosmiting each other... |
| 00:12.39 | cheako | What I did was --reinstall udev=(some older version avalible), and followed that by and upgrade. This worked fine, but only cause udev changed all it's conffiles in the upgrade. |
| 00:12.49 | wombachi | caphuso: apt-get.org looks good to avoid long compile time :) |
| 00:13.06 | z36ra | Led_Zep: I aint installin it if I don't know something about it... I'm searching for ya... gimme a minute. |
| 00:13.18 | smo | make[3]: *** Pas de règle pour fabriquer la cible « drivers/usb/media/pwcx.c », nécessaire pour « drivers/usb/media/pwcx.o ». Arrêt. |
| 00:13.18 | smo | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:13.18 | Led_Zeppelin | z36ra, heh, thanks! |
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| 00:13.43 | cheako | Not I can't find how to do the same for exim, Where is this info(what conffiles to just upgrade) cached? |
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| 00:14.51 | caphuso | cheako: conffiles you changed aren't upgraded |
| 00:15.07 | cheako | Since the conffiles have not been changed(by the maintainor), dpkg dosen't want to let me know if I cahnged them. |
| 00:15.07 | caphuso | (not without asking first) |
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| 00:15.38 | khaled | whats the latest stable version ? sarge ? |
| 00:15.50 | Wyzard | khaled: Sarge isn't released as stable yet, but it will be soon |
| 00:15.53 | d3s | khaled: almost stable :-) |
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| 00:15.58 | caphuso | khaled: www.debian.org |
| 00:15.58 | cheako | caphuso: Yes, and ones I haven't get upgraded with out problem. But how dose dpkg know, I'd like to run the test manualy. |
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| 00:16.12 | d3s | Wyzard: when? it was 15 sept.. but naah... 19 Sept? |
| 00:16.25 | z36ra | Led_Zep; oh shoot! this is a big deal. did you check at jakarta? |
| 00:16.26 | trans_err | iptables -A FORWARD -i eth0 -o eth1 -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT |
| 00:16.26 | trans_err | iptables: No chain/target/match by that name |
| 00:16.29 | cthomas | it's supposed to be out in september, which means that Sarge is going to be the best Christmas present ever. |
| 00:16.31 | trans_err | why doesn't that work? |
| 00:16.35 | cheako | Well I'd like to know if I cahnge any conffiles for exim, there are lots of these. |
| 00:17.07 | z36ra | Led_Zep: see problem is= I don't know much about Java |
| 00:17.17 | prock_ | thank you |
| 00:17.22 | cthomas | but after 2 years, I think everybody just wants to see it done right, no point in rushing it |
| 00:17.32 | khaled | Wyzard, do you know if there is a release schedule ? |
| 00:17.38 | d3s | cthomas: will it be the latest stable? (sarge) |
| 00:17.38 | cheako | The test dpkg uses lookes first to see if the(an) upgrade contains new conffiles, this fails. |
| 00:17.46 | cthomas | d3s : yep |
| 00:18.27 | cthomas | d3s : if you are running sarge and you want to keep running it when it goes stable, change your sources.list references of "testing" to "sarge" |
| 00:18.31 | d3s | I'm thinking to make a documentation based on that distro, but I guess i have to wait for the release |
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| 00:18.45 | cheako | I used debsums, but I think it ignores conffiles. This could be exploted, no? |
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| 00:18.50 | rich_ | Hello everyone |
| 00:19.02 | rich_ | We need to put the fear of god back in national politics, We need to hit them with condoms full of purple powder. Uk rocks |
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| 00:19.18 | Wyzard | khaled: I've heard someone here say it'll be released in a week or two, but I don't know how credible that is |
| 00:19.30 | Wyzard | khaled: Just go ahead and install it... you can always upgrade when it goes stable |
| 00:19.30 | Led_Zeppelin | z36ra, heh, no programming needed |
| 00:19.31 | khaled | Wyzard, hmm. ok thanks |
| 00:19.35 | Led_Zeppelin | z36ra, just have JRE installed |
| 00:19.42 | Wyzard | khaled: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 00:19.43 | khaled | Wyzard, its for one of my friend.. he is a bit picky |
| 00:19.51 | bills | Can anyone help me with this error: "dh_movefiles: debian/tmp does not exist." ... I'm trying to build my first deb package (multi-binary) and get this error when running dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot. |
| 00:19.58 | Wyzard | khaled: In that case, it's probably better to wait than to install woody |
| 00:19.59 | z36ra | Led_Zep: I don't think it can be done without Postfix or Sendmail or some programming |
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| 00:20.20 | Led_Zeppelin | z36ra, I can send mail from that server, just not reveive it... |
| 00:20.31 | cthomas | the only annoying thing about running testing, is security updates: stable gets all the security patch attention, and unstable is quick to respond so it's usually patched as well. But testing... is in limbo |
| 00:20.37 | wombachi | mm, 595 Release-critical bugs remaining. sarge in Octob? bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ |
| 00:20.42 | Led_Zeppelin | z36ra, I should be able to send mail to foo@192.168.0.1 right? if James is running? |
| 00:20.57 | z36ra | Led_Zep: but you said relay... As in relay mail to another place. |
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| 00:21.24 | Wyzard | cthomas: True, though security fixes are generally "urgency=high" when they go into unstable, so they don't take that long to propagate to testing |
| 00:21.24 | Led_Zeppelin | z36ra, yea |
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| 00:21.37 | Led_Zeppelin | z36ra, can I relay email to that server? |
| 00:21.57 | Led_Zeppelin | z36ra, btw, i have a Domain for this box, and a utility (provided by the service) to set up my MX record and crap |
| 00:22.05 | wombachi | cthomas: for server boxes, better use stable (woody) |
| 00:22.06 | AftRburnR | hi - I have a bunch of systems running sid - I'd like to downgrade them to sarge/testing - is there an easy way to do this? |
| 00:22.12 | Wyzard | AftRburnR: no |
| 00:22.14 | z36ra | Led_Zep: relaying is= My SMTP server accepts a connection from your SMTP server and then sends it to another SMTP server. |
| 00:22.29 | Led_Zeppelin | z36ra, oo i c. |
| 00:22.35 | AftRburnR | Wyzard: :( |
| 00:22.37 | wombachi | AftRburnR: see apt howto on debian.org/doc/ |
| 00:22.38 | jcole_deb | how do i get the get previous day's date in bash? |
| 00:23.06 | Wyzard | AftRburnR: The best you can really do is change your sources.list to refer to "sarge" and wait for sarge to "catch up" to the current state of sid |
| 00:23.09 | Led_Zeppelin | z36ra, okay, lets say from yahoo mail I send an email to...foo@222.222.222.222 that is not working |
| 00:23.16 | Wyzard | AftRburnR: though with sarge currently close to release, that may not happen |
| 00:23.17 | wombachi | jcole_deb: date -d '1 day ago' |
| 00:23.19 | Led_Zeppelin | z36ra, gives me a relay denied error |
| 00:23.53 | z36ra | Led_Zep; ok now we're getting somewhere. |
| 00:23.57 | wombachi | jcole_deb: man date |
| 00:24.17 | cheako | can I pass "--root=" to apt-get and have it install into an empty dir? This would let me diff exem's conffiles. |
| 00:24.20 | Led_Zeppelin | z36ra, heheh |
| 00:24.26 | Led_Zeppelin | z36ra, dang you are pretty good as this crap |
| 00:24.28 | AftRburnR | Wyzard: I guess I can reinstall the systems - but that's a lot of work... I was looking for a possible shortcut before resorting to that |
| 00:25.03 | z36ra | Led_Zep: thats not a relaying error. There's something wrong with your setup. Your James setup think it has to relay when it doesnt. |
| 00:25.20 | Led_Zeppelin | z36ra, hmm okay. |
| 00:25.24 | Led_Zeppelin | z36ra, what should I do that? |
| 00:25.44 | wombachi | AftRburnR: never used that but 'APT::Default-Release "testing";' in apt.conf, then... <insert smart things here> |
| 00:25.45 | cheako | I know this is a dpkg option, I should hope that I could do something , like set an env, to pass params too dpkg? |
| 00:25.55 | polm | Is it possible to install the Mozilla-Mplayer package on Unstable ? I am getting dependancy issues looking for an Mplayer package. I can't find any matching Mplayer packages. |
| 00:26.08 | Wyzard | wombachi: That won't downgrade things though |
| 00:26.13 | z36ra | Led_Zep: I have never messed with james but... do you have a config file for it? try adding the domain of your box to the setup. |
| 00:26.14 | polm | I cant find ANY Mplayer packages, for that matter. |
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| 00:26.36 | Wyzard | polm: deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main |
| 00:26.38 | AftRburnR | wombachi: yeah I've never used that either... I'll probably try it before I blow the machine away |
| 00:26.39 | The_Vulture | polm: /msg dpkg mplayer |
| 00:26.45 | wombachi | Wyzard: I know it, I just hoped some1 would fill 'insert smart things here' :) |
| 00:26.45 | vano | anyone good at samba can tell me, how can I remove a file in a user's home on the server manually so that it is done for good and when the user connects next time, the local file is also removed ? (same for adding files too..) (does samba rely on dir timestamp .. or how does it do it?) |
| 00:26.47 | jcole_deb | wombachi: awesome, thanks dude |
| 00:26.53 | Wyzard | actually |
| 00:27.09 | Wyzard | You *could* set testing's priority high enough in apt.conf that it *would* downgrade packages |
| 00:27.21 | rich_ | polm Theres licence issues with mplayer you have to use third party debs whicjh means you no longer have tha stability debian is famous for |
| 00:27.25 | wombachi | jcole_deb: gnu date is very powerfull :) |
| 00:27.40 | z36ra | for instance: if my box is atomiccomputers.com, I would add atomiccomputers.com to the config file. |
| 00:27.42 | Wyzard | However, a mass-downgrade like that might not actually work... dunno if apt can resolve big dependency changes during a downgrade |
| 00:27.42 | z36ra | Then restart apache/james... whatever you gotta do |
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| 00:28.02 | rich_ | polm Or jusrt compile it yoyurself. Thats probably better until you have codec problems |
| 00:28.09 | wombachi | vano: if you want scripts executed at logon, use logon scripts |
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| 00:28.25 | AftRburnR | Wyzard: well I can try ... if I hose the box I'll just do a reinstall with is my option of last resort |
| 00:28.28 | z36ra | in sendmail you have to mc |
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| 00:28.40 | caphuso | cheako: dpkg simply puts the config file from the package to /etc/blah/config.dpkg-new, compares it with /etc/blah/config and looks if they are different |
| 00:28.54 | AftRburnR | Wyzard: I've been running sid for years... and I'm tired of things breaking at inconvenient times... |
| 00:28.57 | vano | wombachi nope... all I want is add/remove files from user's home dirs manually via the server.. |
| 00:29.11 | v1adster | anyone got a lead on a network driver for a Unisys CWD5001. |
| 00:29.17 | vano | wombachi last time I tried this (long time ago), the user connected and all the new files were deleted. |
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| 00:29.24 | rich_ | When you need thje extra codecs you switch to marrillat |
| 00:29.41 | Wyzard | AftRburnR: I've been running sid for years too, and I don't find it that bad... occasional inconvenience, but rarely anything major |
| 00:29.47 | v1adster | it is the lan adapter that came with it that is the problem |
| 00:30.31 | vano | wombachi I am trying to find out how to add/files without samba erasing ignoring the changes |
| 00:30.31 | ozzonn | hi all, someone knows how lilo cant boot on a 486SX (mbr is ok, kernel too) |
| 00:30.31 | v1adster | I need it so I can turn this box into a firewall |
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| 00:30.34 | Wyzard | AftRburnR: I remember a time last year when gnome-settings-daemon broke for a day or two so GNOME was basically unusable... |
| 00:31.03 | AftRburnR | Wyzard: Just after a debian release sid tends to be broken for awhile - at least it seems that way to me. My reasons for running sid no longer exist so I'd like to go back to testing/stable |
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| 00:31.20 | ixi-deb05 | I want to configure server as NAT server. But before I begint, I want to ask - are old IP Masq enabling techniques valid for 2.6 kernel which I now have? |
| 00:31.27 | z36ra | I gotta go get some more beer... hey! anyone want a 29160 64b PCI SCSI card? |
| 00:31.32 | initech | does d-i support installing to software raid? |
| 00:31.33 | vano | vance thing is that, it does delete files ! |
| 00:31.37 | wombachi | vano: I dont understand. if user's file are on srv, you're on srv as root, just 'rm' files. |
| 00:31.43 | initech | err, root on software raid that is |
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| 00:32.28 | vano | wombachi well the other way around it doesnt work... if you add files when the user isnt connected.. next time the user connects, samba deletes the new files you added and doenst copy them to the local clinet |
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| 00:32.37 | ixi-deb05 | In other words - is IP-Masquerade-HOWTO still valid for 2.6 kenrel?? |
| 00:32.45 | FieldySnuts | no |
| 00:32.57 | vano | wombachi so I am not sure if removing it from the server, samba wont get the files again from the client next time it connects |
| 00:33.00 | FieldySnuts | well, unless it got updated. |
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| 00:33.10 | caphuso | ixi-deb05: 2.6 uses the same stuff as 2.4 |
| 00:33.13 | z36ra | $100 bucks and it's yours? cost me $250 |
| 00:33.16 | caphuso | (netfilter/iptables) |
| 00:33.27 | Led_Zeppelin | z36ra, yea, there is a config file for it... |
| 00:33.31 | FieldySnuts | i'd tinker with gShield , it may give you what you want |
| 00:33.40 | Led_Zeppelin | z36ra, hmm, see its a XML file so its kinda ugly :-/ |
| 00:33.41 | ixi-deb05 | caphuso: thanks |
| 00:33.55 | wombachi | vano: if you're talking about roaming (mandatory?) profiles, they really suck. Never work as expected, even in a m$ only word :( |
| 00:33.57 | vano | wombachi I am trying to find out how does samba know "which are the newest chagnes" |
| 00:34.12 | z36ra | Led_Zep: XML is Easy to read. but I couldn't tell you how to do it. |
| 00:34.13 | vano | wombachi yeah.. I am talking about roaming :) |
| 00:34.27 | polm | Does it makes sence that the Mplayer-K7 package would run worse than a self-compiled mplayer from source ? |
| 00:34.32 | z36ra | l8r folks |
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| 00:34.52 | AftRburnR | Thanks guys! I'm off... |
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| 00:35.04 | caphuso | polm: define "worse" |
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| 00:35.59 | polm | caphuso: my self-compile mplayer runs smooth as silk. I just installed the mplayer-k7 package and the sound is choppy, and the video isnt as smooth. |
| 00:36.02 | wombachi | vano: I used samba as primary NT4 domain, but never with roaming profiles. pblms often come from bad permissions. Chekc smb.conf for 'force create mode' etc, or the samba doc (howto collection) |
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| 00:36.15 | caphuso | polm: different -vo/-ao? |
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| 00:36.51 | cthomas | polm: to get the best of both worlds, download the debian source package and compile it that way... |
| 00:37.03 | wombachi | polm: I compile a mplayer myself, but take long time, and marillat debs worked out of the box |
| 00:37.20 | cthomas | marillat has some great stuff ;) |
| 00:37.28 | polm | caphuso: same -ao (via ~/.mplayer/config) but I'm not sure about the vo. I did cycle through most of the choices(xv, sdl, x11, gl) . |
| 00:37.59 | vano | wombachi ok thankx |
| 00:38.24 | caphuso | polm: if you don't happen to have a matrox card or something that's supported by vidix, use xv |
| 00:38.27 | cthomas | dondelelcaro : you so crazy... |
| 00:38.50 | puffy | uhh i have a lamer problem :) I changed my monitor, and set lower resolution, and restarted the X, that's ok, but after some of the programs stayed in the old position, and know these are off the monitor, coz they are too big |
| 00:38.57 | wombachi | seems dondelelcaro has way too much free time available ;) |
| 00:39.01 | puffy | how can i get teir seize back ? |
| 00:39.04 | caphuso | dondelelcaro: "apt-get install kdelibs" not leet enough for ya? :) |
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| 00:39.32 | dondelelcaro | caphuso: rrr, a package that depends on kdelibs... |
| 00:39.45 | dondelelcaro | caphuso: a simple timer has over 100 recursive build depends... that's just freaking nuts |
| 00:39.46 | cthomas | man, if I had that kind of time and horsepower, I'd run gentoo... heh j/k |
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| 00:40.08 | caphuso | dondelelcaro: welcome to the world of modern GUIs |
| 00:40.22 | CodeWarrior_ | hi friends |
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| 00:40.50 | wombachi | caphuso: you mean perl/tk guis ;-) |
| 00:41.08 | rich_ | dondelelcaro a simple timer... You maen cron? |
| 00:41.12 | CodeWarrior_ | does anybody knows when Sarge will be officially released? |
| 00:41.21 | cthomas | !sarge |
| 00:41.21 | dpkg | Fall in! Ten-HUT! Sarge is the new 'testing' version of Debian, which will become stable soon. You can help test it: ask me about "d-i" or see the #debian-boot topic. ask me about <sarge stable> |
| 00:41.24 | rich_ | Itys not that simple |
| 00:41.24 | wombachi | when it's ready ;-) |
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| 00:41.38 | CodeWarrior_ | any date ? |
| 00:41.40 | dondelelcaro | rich_: even simpler. It has to display a countdown in relatively large numerals, and make noise when the time runs out. |
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| 00:41.48 | dondelelcaro | rich_: it doesn't even have to be terribly accurate... |
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| 00:41.57 | holo | cthomas, i wonder if gentoo users really do anything else than compiling its system.. like making something usefull.. well there maybe someone in the universe who does that and still has a girlfriend :S |
| 00:42.19 | MerlinCorey | what's a console Gnu program that should be installed; I'm making a commandline argument parser that's supposed to follow standard gnu style syntax for short and long arguments, and I wanna make sure it matches up.... |
| 00:42.25 | wombachi | CodeWarrior_: too many RC bugs (595). Need to nuke these bugs before release. Patches welcome |
| 00:42.34 | cthomas | also, if you watch Six Feet Under, sarge is a burly gay paintball instructor |
| 00:42.38 | dondelelcaro | bah... |
| 00:42.45 | rich_ | dondelelcaro Oh I see. Well sometimes theres libs and libs and libs I guess. That dioes sound like a lot of dependancies |
| 00:42.56 | nvz | dondelelcaro: are you making a bomb? |
| 00:43.09 | dondelelcaro | ok, can someone please explain to me why the fuck libqt3-dev conflicts with kdelibs4-dev? |
| 00:43.14 | caphuso | dondelelcaro: "for ((a=100; a>=0; a--)); do clear; echo $a; done && cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp" in a "xterm -fs 100 -fa fixed"? |
| 00:43.32 | caphuso | err, stick a sleep somewhere in there |
| 00:43.33 | CodeWarrior_ | wombachi: :/ I hope soon, I´m waiting for it, btw I´m using the RC version |
| 00:43.37 | dondelelcaro | caphuso: yeah... that'd be an approach... |
| 00:43.49 | cthomas | holo: well, I know that the plural of anecdote is not data, but I know 2 gentoo users personally and ... well.. what you suggested is true. |
| 00:43.51 | MerlinCorey | anyone..? |
| 00:43.52 | MerlinCorey | :) |
| 00:44.04 | wombachi | CodeWarrior_: bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ |
| 00:44.14 | nuix | !tell nuix about debian |
| 00:44.19 | caphuso | dondelelcaro: avoiding to reinvent the wheel makes only sense if it is less work than using an existing wheel :) |
| 00:44.19 | CodeWarrior_ | wombachi: nice url ! thanks |
| 00:44.20 | cthomas | "Debian. Now you have time for a girlfriend." |
| 00:44.36 | CodeWarrior_ | wombachi: do you know if we´ll have gnome 2.8 on it ? |
| 00:44.39 | idnar | cthomas: hahahaha |
| 00:44.44 | dondelelcaro | caphuso: yeah... so depressing though... |
| 00:44.56 | caphuso | and having to compile KDE makes quadrangular wheels look useful... |
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| 00:44.59 | Ox0F0-0FF | debian is the best linux distro ever |
| 00:44.59 | Pixar | I did a "apt-cache search fire|grep firewall" Which one of these configuration tools would you recommend? |
| 00:45.09 | Ox0F0-0FF | (no no, not looking for a troll) |
| 00:45.12 | caphuso | Pixar: /usr/bin/editor |
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| 00:45.28 | wombachi | CodeWarrior_: I dont think soo. |
| 00:45.31 | Pixar | caphuso: :) |
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| 00:45.44 | caphuso | dondelelcaro: qt2 *and* qt3? at the same time? |
| 00:45.49 | ABO | Pixar: shorewall |
| 00:46.13 | CodeWarrior_ | wombachi: me too. thanks friend |
| 00:46.34 | Wyzard | Pixar: I recommend FireHOL, or Shorewall if you're running stable and therefore don't have FireHOL available |
| 00:46.36 | Pixar | ABO: installed shorewall, looks nice |
| 00:46.37 | [fLG] | hi all. anyone can tell me how i should install a nic (network)? it wasn't regocnized automatically at the installation |
| 00:46.41 | wombachi | Pixar: I use bash and txt files, but I think webmin has a module to do it |
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| 00:46.56 | dondelelcaro | caphuso: nah, it's just really out of date and is looking for qt2, but I'm feeding it qt3 |
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| 00:47.00 | ABO | Wysard: what is FireHOL |
| 00:47.02 | Pixar | having trouble with the ip_tables module |
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| 00:47.07 | Wyzard | Pixar: Shorewall is more flexible, but FireHOL works fine for most cases and is much, much easier to configure |
| 00:47.29 | Wyzard | Pixar: It's another firewall package, that's very straightforward to configure |
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| 00:47.39 | dondelelcaro | oh well... wmtimer is pretty close to what I want, but kind of sucks... |
| 00:47.42 | polm | hmmm...Mplayer-k7 works great with -ao OSS, but not with AlSa. |
| 00:47.43 | ABO | Wyzard: thanks...:-) |
| 00:48.01 | cthomas | [fLG] : lspci to find out what kind of card it is, and then modprobe the driver to use.. go to /lib/modules/$CURRENTKERNEL/ to find the available drivers |
| 00:48.11 | Wyzard | Pixar: (and the converse... very easy to understand the current firewall config with just a brief look at the config file) |
| 00:48.16 | Pixar | Wyzard: I've already installed Shorewall, looks like a good tool, but i'm struggeling with the ip_tables module |
| 00:48.22 | [fLG] | for what is modprobe? |
| 00:48.24 | wombachi | [fLG]: lspci can help identify the card |
| 00:48.27 | Wyzard | Pixar: What about it? |
| 00:48.38 | ABO | Pixar: shorewall is great if you have multiple interfaces and/or multiple different zones. It was the only firewall at the time that was easy yet flixible enough to handle my rather complicated networks. |
| 00:48.41 | cthomas | [fLG] modprobe loads a module |
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| 00:48.49 | Pixar | Wyzard: hang on, 2 secs |
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| 00:48.55 | [fLG] | ok, thanks alot |
| 00:48.57 | Wyzard | Pixar: modprobe ip_tables |
| 00:49.04 | ABO | Pixar: iptables? what's so hard about it? |
| 00:49.16 | z36ra | Led_Zep: did you try #apache? |
| 00:49.21 | Wyzard | I recommend FireHOL unless you need Shorewall's power, though, because FireHOL is a lot easier to maintain |
| 00:49.22 | [fLG] | cthomas and wombachi |
| 00:49.26 | [fLG] | thanks ;) |
| 00:49.31 | cthomas | [fLG] np |
| 00:49.44 | Zap-W | there is a bug in gift that makes it crash if I attempt to download a file around ~3GB or 1GB maybe |
| 00:49.45 | wombachi | [fLG] you welcome |
| 00:49.46 | Pixar | Wyzard: modeprobe can't find ip_tables |
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| 00:50.07 | [fLG] | and i'm off to bed :) good nite all of you |
| 00:50.09 | [fLG] | nice dreams |
| 00:50.13 | Wyzard | Pixar: What kernel are you running? |
| 00:50.19 | Pixar | 2.4.27 |
| 00:50.25 | ABO | Pixar: Oh, custom compiled kernel have we :- |
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| 00:50.31 | ABO | ) |
| 00:50.32 | Pixar | yeah :) |
| 00:50.35 | Wyzard | Pixar: Does /lib/modules/2.4.27/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o exist? |
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| 00:50.46 | Wyzard | Pixar: If not, you'll need to compile a new kernel before you can use a firewall |
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| 00:51.09 | Pixar | Wyzard: yes, it's there :) |
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| 00:51.22 | ABO | Pixar: I swear, compiling your own kernel causes more problems than it's worth... the debs work fine for everything. |
| 00:51.56 | Wyzard | ABO: It's worthwhile if you want to fine-tune things |
| 00:52.06 | Pixar | ABO: well, that may be true, unless your'e running on limited CPU-power and memory |
| 00:52.13 | Wyzard | Pixar: Run "depmod -ae" and see if it reports any errors |
| 00:52.22 | ABO | Wyzard: what... save disk space? if you don't need it, don't load the module. |
| 00:52.36 | z36ra | agrees with ABO. |
| 00:52.37 | wombachi | ABO: Not always. I installed woody on a Dell PE1750 by replacing the kernel on install CD (sarge snapshot)) |
| 00:53.07 | Pixar | Wyzard: depmod -ae gives zero output |
| 00:53.18 | Wyzard | ABO: No, just enable options that might not be enabled in the default configuration, apply additional patches (like "debianlogo"), etc. |
| 00:53.19 | wombachi | ABO: wasnt easy. I should have documented. Doing it late, reading docs and... forgetting how I've done that now :p |
| 00:53.23 | ABO | wombachi: you've hit on the only reason to compile your own: odball hardware. |
| 00:53.26 | Wyzard | Pixar: and "modprobe ip_tables" fails? |
| 00:53.35 | ahosie_ | !lart me |
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| 00:54.02 | Pixar | Wyzard: yes, modprobe can't locate module ip_tables |
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| 00:54.27 | ABO | Pixar: depmod -a? |
| 00:54.29 | wombachi | ABO: another reason: megaraid module wasnt there (no disk), tg3 module removed coz non-free firmware (no eth). I had no luck... |
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| 00:54.50 | Pixar | ABO: depmod -a returns zero output |
| 00:54.55 | z36ra | Pixar: dpkg -l iptables |
| 00:55.10 | initech | wombachi: you have a megaraid? I just spent the better part of three days struggling with one |
| 00:55.30 | ixi-deb05 | /qiot |
| 00:55.44 | Wyzard | z36ra: The package isn't needed to load the module |
| 00:55.52 | wombachi | initech: On a distant server, I use the megaraid module (well, compiled in kernel) |
| 00:56.03 | Wyzard | Pixar: Try using modprobe's "-v" option |
| 00:56.04 | cheako | caphuso: Is there any way to force the creation of /etc/blah/config.dpkg-new, FWICS this dosen't happen in the upgrade dosen't contain a diffrent file. |
| 00:56.17 | initech | wombachi: how's it work? no problems? |
| 00:56.35 | z36ra | Wyzard: I guess I'll shut up considering I came into the conversation late |
| 00:56.47 | cheako | err s/in/when/. |
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| 00:57.27 | ABO | Pixar: am I showing up in logs as "ABO" or "Donovan Baarda"... I'm seeing the latter, but might be something wierd with GAIM. |
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| 00:57.53 | Pixar | Wyzard: modprobe with "-v" option gives same response as before: Can't locate module ip_tables |
| 00:57.55 | wombachi | initech: works like a charm.... with a home-made kernel, to have disk support (disk needs module, loading module needs disk) support |
| 00:58.16 | wombachi | initech: so I compiled a new kernel, with megaraid module compiled in (not in module) |
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| 00:58.41 | ABO | wombachi: loading module doesn't need disk if its in the initrd. |
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| 00:59.08 | VolVE | hey all, what's the apt bundle package that installs a bunch of necessary compilation tools? (gcc, make, etc) |
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| 00:59.41 | tcsetattr | build-essential |
| 01:00.13 | Pixar | Wyzard: another thing worth noting: when I do "ifup eth1" "Can't locate module ip_tables" and so on comes up a gazillion times |
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| 01:00.33 | Sturzflut | apt provides libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5-3.3, but I get error debtags: Depends: libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5-3.3 why? |
| 01:00.48 | initech | wombachi: mine must be a defective piece of shit ... a 434 with 32MB |
| 01:00.49 | wombachi | ABO: I know now, and new d-i has udeb for that now in its initrd. wasnt at that time :( |
| 01:00.59 | Pixar | iptables says that the "filter" tables does not exits, do I manually have to create one? |
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| 01:01.22 | VolVE | thanks tcsetattr |
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| 01:01.46 | wombachi | initech: easy to see : just boot with a knoppix CD (this saved me) |
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| 01:02.09 | initech | wombachi: well it works fine for a while then the driver freaks out and takes the device offline |
| 01:02.12 | wombachi | initech: last knoppix I used saw the megaraid, tg3 card etc. very handy |
| 01:02.24 | matthewL | hi all, I have a problem with NFS on debian box. |
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| 01:02.38 | initech | matthewL: what's that? |
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| 01:02.49 | matthewL | showmount -e output :mount clntudp_create: RPC: Program not registered |
| 01:02.52 | wombachi | initech: I used 2.4.26 kernel, uptime few months now. Perhaps bad hardware. |
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| 01:03.08 | FieldySnuts | hope an op is noticing the dcsl joins |
| 01:03.10 | initech | matthewL: are you running portmapper? |
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| 01:03.22 | Fluten | clonebots? |
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| 01:03.24 | FieldySnuts | debhelper: nice |
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| 01:03.30 | wombachi | initech: or your kernel is too old? |
| 01:03.30 | FieldySnuts | lamers |
| 01:03.30 | Sturzflut | pathetic |
| 01:03.36 | matthewL | how to check it? |
| 01:03.36 | initech | wombachi: no, 2.6.8 |
| 01:03.43 | Fluten | this why the user limit is turned on? |
| 01:03.46 | Sturzflut | lamer should be singular there |
| 01:03.47 | Fluten | to keep these lamers out |
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| 01:03.56 | initech | wombachi: i'm sure it's defective, bought it off ebay for $50 |
| 01:04.15 | matthewL | initech: rpcinfo -p outpuut: 100000 2 tcp 111 portmapper |
| 01:04.16 | matthewL | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:04.31 | matthewL | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:04.31 | matthewL | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:04.36 | FieldySnuts | matthewL: stop thanks |
| 01:04.41 | wombachi | initech: throwing it away will make you feel better :) |
| 01:04.50 | matthewL | ok,sorry |
| 01:05.02 | initech | wombachi: maybe I'll give it to someone and tell them it works like a charm |
| 01:05.04 | initech | :) |
| 01:05.21 | wombachi | initech: and you leave it to a bare $60 :p |
| 01:05.21 | initech | of course then it would start working :( |
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| 01:05.35 | z36ra | hmmm. never seen that before, fieldysnuts. |
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| 01:05.55 | FieldySnuts | ? |
| 01:06.15 | Pixar | Wyzard went silent... |
| 01:06.17 | z36ra | fieldysnuts: clonebot? |
| 01:06.20 | initech | matthewL: does rpcinfo -p say that nfs is mapped? |
| 01:06.39 | matthewL | no. |
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| 01:06.56 | z36ra | fieldysnuts: debhelper? |
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| 01:07.04 | ABO | mathewL: apt-get install nfs-common on clients. |
| 01:07.05 | initech | matthewL: you have an nfsd running? |
| 01:07.07 | FieldySnuts | what the hell are you talking about |
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| 01:07.54 | z36ra | fieldysnuts: didnt mean to piss you off. I was talking about the stuff up there but no big deal. forget it. |
| 01:08.01 | FieldySnuts | k |
| 01:08.07 | matthewL | initech: no nfsd runing. |
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| 01:08.36 | matthewL | initech:I installed nfs-kernel-server |
| 01:08.41 | ABO | mathewL: apt-get install nfs-kernel-server on server. |
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| 01:08.47 | z36ra | howdy greycat |
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| 01:09.25 | ABO | mathewL: need to add some exports to /etc/exports and /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server start |
| 01:09.43 | initech | matthewL: well what does "invoke-rc.d nfs-kernel-server" do? |
| 01:09.58 | initech | matthewL: "invoke-rc.d nfs-kernel-server start" I mean |
| 01:10.01 | z36ra | greycat: are you as ornry as fieldysnuts tonight? |
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| 01:10.39 | greycat | z36ra: I dearly hope I have very few traits in common with FieldySnuts |
| 01:10.39 | FieldySnuts | troll |
| 01:10.49 | matthewL | initech:Starting NFS kernel daemon: nfsdinvoke-rc.d: initscript nfs-kernel-server, action "start" failed. |
| 01:10.51 | FieldySnuts | greycat: :) |
| 01:11.01 | puffy | is there any fix date, when the sarge will be stable ? |
| 01:11.10 | initech | matthewL: you have anything in /etc/exports? |
| 01:11.14 | Guerin | !sarge guess |
| 01:11.14 | dpkg | At a guess, sarge will be ready in about ...2 months, or see <guess>. |
| 01:11.25 | puffy | :D |
| 01:11.25 | rich_ | puffy yes probably this year, or next |
| 01:11.32 | ABO | mathewL: did you do it as root? |
| 01:11.35 | greycat | dpkg, sarge guess =~ s/ .../... / |
| 01:11.35 | dpkg | greycat: OK |
| 01:11.36 | puffy | or after that ... :) |
| 01:11.37 | matthewL | initech:/temp |
| 01:11.37 | wombachi | puffy: when it's ready :) |
| 01:11.50 | z36ra | greycat: you are synonimous with the term "short fuse". |
| 01:11.52 | matthewL | ABO: yes, I login root |
| 01:12.06 | puffy | i think, not i am the first, who asked it ... :D |
| 01:12.08 | Guerin | z36ra: you are synonymous with the phrase "annoying twat" |
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| 01:12.09 | FieldySnuts | z36ra: you are "synonimous" with the term "idiot" |
| 01:12.16 | Mesquelle | #brasnet |
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| 01:12.34 | ABO | matthewL: does /temp exist? |
| 01:12.39 | z36ra | hehe, now i got two folks pickin on me |
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| 01:12.55 | z36ra | im outnumbered |
| 01:13.09 | Guerin | z36ra: you were outnumbered before I started in. |
| 01:13.20 | initech | matthewL: if nfsd fails, look at your logs |
| 01:13.23 | Mesquelle | por favor, alguém me ajude a entrar na Brasnet pelo linux!!!!!!! Please!!!!!!!! |
| 01:13.23 | dondelelcaro | the walls of the paper bag are closing in... |
| 01:13.28 | z36ra | well its all in fun |
| 01:13.30 | dondelelcaro | !spanish |
| 01:13.30 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish speakers: please go to #debian-es, you will get a lot more help there. |
| 01:13.31 | FieldySnuts | please, +q Mesquelle |
| 01:13.40 | FieldySnuts | or that |
| 01:13.42 | matthewL | ABO:/temp is exist. |
| 01:13.52 | FieldySnuts | you do mean /tmp ? |
| 01:14.02 | greycat | !tell Mesquelle about portuguese |
| 01:14.21 | z36ra | Guerin: are you just pissed because I didnt say hello? |
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| 01:14.42 | FieldySnuts | z36ra: nobody's pissed, you just keep picking fights with people |
| 01:14.59 | lordurza | isnt Guerin the dinosaur thing from DragonBall? |
| 01:15.09 | z36ra | FieldySnuts: it's not fights, it's love taps. |
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| 01:15.13 | Guerin | z36ra: don't fucking troll me, I've been awake for nearly 30 hours and have just gotten back from a 9-hour car trip to the only place I hate as much as a hospital; an airport. |
| 01:15.30 | dondelelcaro | mmmm... the airport. |
| 01:15.30 | FieldySnuts | amen |
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| 01:15.50 | Jacobo221 | anyone knows of a *good* CAD designer app compatible with AutoCAD? |
| 01:15.52 | puffy | Guerin: |
| 01:15.59 | puffy | ahhh tab :) |
| 01:16.00 | z36ra | Guerin: 9 hours aint shit! try drivon from Texas to Ohio... 1100 miles. |
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| 01:16.07 | Guerin | puffy: hint: write something before hitting enter. |
| 01:16.14 | tzafrir | I'm trying to use make-kpkg to build a modules package. The modules are compiles fine, but are put into /lib/modules/2.6.7 instead of /lib/modules/2.6.7-1-386 |
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| 01:16.33 | initech | Jacobo221: microstation? |
| 01:16.35 | VolVE | ack, so, does anyone have any idea why dSPAM configure is telling me "Berkeley DB not found or not usable" |
| 01:16.39 | Guerin | z36ra: I've done my share of road trips, sunshine, don't lecture me about it. |
| 01:16.45 | puffy | Guerin: maybe i made a mistake, and hit the enter becauise of it |
| 01:16.52 | ABO | jacobo221: Umm... AutoCAD? |
| 01:16.53 | Jacobo221 | initech: thanx, going to the website to see :-) |
| 01:16.57 | FieldySnuts | ~badger z36ra |
| 01:17.02 | tzafrir | What is the right way to change that directory? |
| 01:17.02 | puffy | but i think you should go to sleep :) |
| 01:17.02 | greycat | VolVE: because you didn't install it? |
| 01:17.04 | Jacobo221 | ABO: AutoCAD works on linux? |
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| 01:17.08 | z36ra | Guerin: go to bed if youre so friggin tired. |
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| 01:17.20 | VolVE | greycat: yeah, see, I installed libdb1 :-/ |
| 01:17.21 | initech | Jacobo221: I believe bentley makes a linux version of microstation |
| 01:17.39 | ABO | Jacobo221: Ahh, for Linux. Nope. try Wine or VMWare. |
| 01:17.40 | dondelelcaro | road trips don't start counting until there isn't any asphalt or gas for more than a tank full in any direction... |
| 01:17.44 | greycat | VolVE: you forgot to get the -dev package? That'd do it. |
| 01:17.49 | Guerin | z36ra: thanks for the advice, which has now been consigned to the "irrelevant shit" file. |
| 01:17.53 | Jacobo221 | initech: thanx, going to bentley too hehehe |
| 01:17.57 | VolVE | greycat: hmm |
| 01:18.01 | Guerin | dondelelcaro: hehe |
| 01:18.08 | Jacobo221 | ABO: AutoCAD + vmWare... sorry I better not even try ;) |
| 01:18.18 | Guerin | dondelelcaro: no place like that in this hermit kingdom. |
| 01:18.18 | wombachi | Jacobo221: apt-cache search autocad .. qcad? |
| 01:18.23 | lordurza | hmm |
| 01:18.23 | z36ra | hehe |
| 01:18.27 | cthomas | Jacobo221 : wise decision.. ;) |
| 01:18.35 | dondelelcaro | Guerin: there aren't very many places like that on the planet... unfortunatly... |
| 01:18.41 | z36ra | @ both of ya |
| 01:18.42 | Jacobo221 | cthomas : ;) |
| 01:18.42 | VolVE | greycat: when I try and install libdb1-dev, apt tells me it's going to remove build-essential g++ libc6-dev and a couple others... :-/ |
| 01:18.47 | lordurza | is that forwarded to /dev/null Guerin or do you actually have a file for it al tlo be sent?? |
| 01:18.49 | cthomas | apt-cache search ie4 |
| 01:18.50 | ABO | Jacobo221: VMWare is pretty damn good... if you throw enough memory at it. |
| 01:18.53 | lordurza | to* |
| 01:18.55 | Jacobo221 | wombachi: oh... |
| 01:19.27 | Guerin | dondelelcaro: Australia has a few. My friends did the Nullarbor plains offroad - got diesel and water drums airdropped in and went for it. |
| 01:19.33 | z36ra | hell I only read one line aminute... you guys gotta slow down; youre killin me |
| 01:19.34 | wombachi | Jacobo221: perhaps apt-get install qcad (I never use it, ymmv) |
| 01:19.35 | LSorensen | abo: yeah it does requrie just as much ram as linux + the guest OS each would. |
| 01:19.40 | dondelelcaro | Guerin: nice... |
| 01:19.48 | yacc | Well, I've got problems with vmware and 2.6 :( |
| 01:19.58 | FieldySnuts | screw vmware |
| 01:20.05 | dondelelcaro | Guerin: yeah, the US doesn't have any places like that... parts of nevada is about as close as you can get... |
| 01:20.11 | LSorensen | yacc: no problem here last I used it with 2.6.6 |
| 01:20.20 | Guerin | dondelelcaro: part of a larger overall road trip - around australia by road. |
| 01:20.36 | FieldySnuts | my god that's a long trip mate |
| 01:20.38 | Guerin | dondelelcaro: wow, I though there wrere huge tracts of land like that in .us |
| 01:20.41 | cthomas | dondelelcaro : canada has that. |
| 01:20.46 | Guerin | FieldySnuts: hell yeah. |
| 01:20.49 | z36ra | yeah Australias about as big as texas huh? |
| 01:20.49 | yacc | Well, it complains about compiling the modules. |
| 01:20.57 | FieldySnuts | MUCH bigger than texass |
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| 01:21.01 | Guerin | they went through two nissan patrols and a toyota hilux |
| 01:21.21 | cthomas | Guerin : what's wrong? she's rich, she's beautiful, she has ... huuuuge tracts o land! |
| 01:21.22 | dondelelcaro | Guerin: there are are huge tracts, but it's hard to go for long without running into a highway |
| 01:21.24 | FieldySnuts | hehe huge tracts of land made me think of monty python |
| 01:21.24 | ABO | Guerin: have done a few trips in Australia: two days, no road, only sand dunes. |
| 01:21.41 | FieldySnuts | "what's wrong with her?? she's beautiful, she's rich, she's got. ... [rude hand gesture] .. HUUUGE ... tracts of land!" |
| 01:21.47 | dondelelcaro | Guerin: I mean, the 90 and the 80 are only a few hundred miles apart... |
| 01:21.48 | cthomas | FieldySnuts : first |
| 01:21.50 | LSorensen | yacc: with 4.5 that is |
| 01:21.55 | z36ra | ABO ! |
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| 01:21.57 | Guerin | dondelelcaro: right. |
| 01:21.58 | z36ra | hehe |
| 01:22.13 | Guerin | ABO: that'ss pretty tough. |
| 01:22.25 | z36ra | get my truck and do a no-road trip |
| 01:22.28 | Guerin | gps is your best friend, apart ffrom water and shortwave radio. |
| 01:22.30 | dondelelcaro | Guerin: and with the 10, they basically divide the US into neat 200-400 mile parallels... |
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| 01:22.55 | yacc | Hmmm, free upgrade? I don't need 4.5, 4.0.0 is ok for me ;) |
| 01:22.58 | yacc | *wonder* |
| 01:23.09 | z36ra | 24 hours to ohio. now thats a trip |
| 01:23.20 | FieldySnuts | want a medal? |
| 01:23.29 | Guerin | i'll tell you the clincher, eh: |
| 01:23.35 | z36ra | I got my medal |
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| 01:23.41 | yacc | Or is this just another lesson by propiertary software is wasted energy and money. |
| 01:23.44 | FieldySnuts | troll medal |
| 01:23.48 | Guerin | I went to the airport to pick up my mother. She's now staying with us for ~3 weeks... |
| 01:23.55 | FieldySnuts | haha |
| 01:23.55 | FieldySnuts | that sucks |
| 01:23.56 | z36ra | from bruce to bruce... thats all I need |
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| 01:24.12 | ABO | z26ra: have a look on the map: go West North West of Alice-Springs. |
| 01:24.18 | Guerin | nah, mum's alright |
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| 01:24.20 | cthomas | Guerin : ouch |
| 01:24.30 | Guerin | I feel sorry for my wife, though |
| 01:24.39 | cthomas | they don't get along? |
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| 01:24.52 | FieldySnuts | Ben Dover |
| 01:24.55 | z36ra | ABO: really enjoy kentuky |
| 01:24.55 | Guerin | cthomas: they get along fine. But they're still m-i-l and d-i-l |
| 01:25.05 | z36ra | ohio sux |