| 00:00.02 | nvz | omri1: you mean like irc and web browser in one? that would be emacs. heh |
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| 00:00.20 | abrotman | emacs .. the other free OS |
| 00:00.22 | omri1 | nvz: nope, irc and web browser in two.. |
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| 00:00.55 | nvz | omri1: I prefer irssi-text and links |
| 00:01.17 | nvz | omri1: screen is good when dealing with text apps |
| 00:01.26 | omri1 | well, I guess I can't apt-get it while i'm d/l sarge.. I'm now using ircII |
| 00:01.31 | rich_ | omie lynx is the best web browser, irssi is supposed to be the best irc text client |
| 00:01.52 | nvz | plz |
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| 00:02.12 | rich_ | omri1: I mean watch out for links, ts not bad but its not the same |
| 00:02.28 | dondelelcaro | rich_: dunno, alot of people like links and elinks... |
| 00:02.31 | nvz | you got the _is_ and _supposed_to_be_ in the wrong places there |
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| 00:02.57 | dendrite | What a polite holy war... |
| 00:03.09 | omri1 | I think I prefer links over lynx.. |
| 00:03.20 | mbirkis | i am trying to set up a dhcpd server, how do i fix this "No subnet decleration for start (0.0.0.0)."?? |
| 00:03.38 | rich_ | dondelelcaro Yea I dont use them so I dont know. But lynx is old enough so I know its good |
| 00:03.48 | Random-832 | /lastlog -clear |
| 00:03.53 | Random-832 | oops |
| 00:04.08 | rich_ | or at least it used to be good |
| 00:04.24 | deb-nube | it's called howl |
| 00:04.27 | dendrite | rich_: Some would say lynx has been overtaken... |
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| 00:04.33 | deb-nube | not hoot :-) |
| 00:04.35 | holo_ | hyksos__, sorry i was offline again.. i was saying that in that site there was: fakeroot apt-get install fakeroot-net. so it was using fakeroot to install fakeroot-net, but it could be another app with no association to fakeroot |
| 00:04.49 | nvz | rich_: try links package in debian sometime, its familiar, but has more features |
| 00:05.14 | omri1 | help |
| 00:05.20 | nvz | the debian "links" is what elinks? |
| 00:05.32 | omri1 | oops.. forgot the / |
| 00:05.36 | rich_ | My favorite text web browser is wget. I use it a lot to get the mms: url. |
| 00:05.50 | holo_ | hyksos__, so if it can install fakeroot-net, then sun of a bitch with a shell account in my computer could easily install kde |
| 00:05.57 | deb-nube | the zeroconf library that is ... not in official debian of course (debian release cycles are sllower than FreeBSD and even microsoft!) but available here http://interreality.org/software/debian/howl.html |
| 00:06.02 | dendrite | I'm not sure I'd call wget a "browser." |
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| 00:06.17 | rich_ | I mean I use wget to get the page, then sift through iot to find the mms: and rtsp parts. Those are the parts with information. |
| 00:06.20 | rich_ | I mean data |
| 00:06.42 | dendrite | rich_: Sounds like it'd be easier just to use a real "browser." |
| 00:06.54 | nvz | pythons httplib is more of a prowser than that |
| 00:07.00 | dendrite | rich_: Unless you're parsing as part of some larger automated process, of course. |
| 00:07.42 | dendrite | rich_: And even then, the 'dump' features of regular text browsers might save you the trouble of weeding out the markup... |
| 00:07.44 | nvz | can view just about anything with 5 lines of python. reading mail or anything is pretty simple |
| 00:08.04 | directhex_ | rich_, tried "mimms" to download mms: urls? |
| 00:08.47 | rich_ | directhex_ I use mplayer -dumpstream to download them into a tmpfs directory then another mplayer with tail to view them as they stream in. |
| 00:08.53 | Hamled | how can I get nautilus to not open a new window for each directory I open? |
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| 00:09.44 | dendrite | Hamled: dredge around in the app preferences dialogs? |
| 00:10.10 | directhex_ | Hamled, set /apps/nautilus/preferences/always_use_browser to true |
| 00:10.13 | nvz | Hamled: thats the new style. are you using sarge? |
| 00:10.20 | directhex_ | Hamled, in gconf-editor, obviously |
| 00:10.26 | Hamled | directhex_, thanks |
| 00:10.31 | nvz | Hamled: install gtweakui |
| 00:10.34 | deb-nube | hold down the shift key |
| 00:10.47 | nvz | Hamled: has 4 tools to tweak all old gnome settings |
| 00:11.10 | rich_ | directhex_ I tried mmis but I figured Id get better player performance if I downloaded the stream with the same program that I use to play the stream |
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| 00:11.28 | Hamled | directhex_'s solution worked great |
| 00:11.57 | directhex_ | of course it did ;) |
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| 00:12.07 | Hamled | :P |
| 00:12.17 | GoreSpilr | how does one install a "virtual machine" |
| 00:12.26 | omri1 | when I try to run jobs it doesn't display anything. Do I need to specify a parameter for it to display? |
| 00:13.08 | deb-nube | is there a deb packaging concept like "meta package" |
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| 00:13.15 | nvz | !find gconf-editor |
| 00:13.17 | rich_ | omri1 the jobs command should just list the jobs for the shell your in. |
| 00:13.18 | dpkg | gconf-editor: (An editor for the GConf configuration system), section utils, is optional. Version: 2.6.2-1 (sid), Packaged size: 135 kB, Installed size: 1164 kB |
| 00:13.27 | deb-nube | when I upgrade Gnome with RPM is gets everything |
| 00:13.28 | |stefan| | is it possible to set up a ipv4 tunnel with /etc/network/interfaces ? not a ipv6 over ipv4 . but a ipv4 over ipv4 ;) so to speak. |
| 00:13.35 | deb-nube | here it only gets the dependencies |
| 00:13.41 | omri1 | it lists nothing.. |
| 00:13.53 | deb-nube | I have to run apt-get like 10 times ... |
| 00:14.10 | deb-nube | can .deb |
| 00:14.42 | directhex_ | deb-nube, nobody's answering because it's a stupid question |
| 00:14.43 | abrotman | wtf are you talking about? |
| 00:14.48 | deb-nube | can fake .deb's be set up to "require" all 20-30 packages from gnome? |
| 00:14.52 | rich_ | omri1 have you started any jobs from within that shell? They are started by putting them in the background, with ctrl-z. You make them resume execution in the background with the bg command. You bronbg them back to the foreground with the fg command |
| 00:14.57 | abrotman | deb-nube: in sarge .. apt-get install gnome |
| 00:15.06 | directhex_ | the whole motherfucking point of apt & dpkg is the dependancy handling |
| 00:15.15 | deb-nube | yeah but it doesn't upgrade half the stuff! |
| 00:15.22 | abrotman | cause you didn't read the man page |
| 00:15.25 | rich_ | omri1 And list them with the jobs command |
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| 00:15.31 | omri1 | oh, i see.. I misunderstood the concept. How can I check which "processes" are running? |
| 00:15.39 | deb-nube | because apt get install gnome doesn |
| 00:15.39 | rich_ | omri1 ps |
| 00:15.45 | rich_ | omri1 man ps |
| 00:15.55 | deb-nube | 't "require" gconf-editor gedit etc |
| 00:15.56 | directhex_ | deb-nube, cat /etc/debian_version |
| 00:15.59 | zYgoat_ | jobs? |
| 00:16.03 | zYgoat_ | ah, only shows the programs started from that shell |
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| 00:16.10 | abrotman | deb-nube: do you have any idea what you're doing? |
| 00:16.12 | zYgoat_ | i like ps -efw, your taste may vary |
| 00:16.16 | deb-nube | 3.1 |
| 00:16.22 | abrotman | deb-nube: apt-get install gnome |
| 00:16.31 | deb-nube | I did that |
| 00:16.32 | abrotman | deb-nube: apt-get update;apt-get -u dist-upgrade |
| 00:16.39 | abrotman | and then |
| 00:16.40 | deb-nube | I did that too |
| 00:16.42 | abrotman | man apt-get |
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| 00:16.46 | rich_ | I use ps ax --User $USER |
| 00:16.50 | abrotman | deb-nube: so you're saying it's holding stuff? |
| 00:16.52 | deb-nube | it is not installing the new gedit |
| 00:16.54 | deb-nube | etc |
| 00:16.58 | abrotman | what new fuckin gedit? |
| 00:17.01 | doublehp | How to make toshutils accept to update with man made /etc/modules.conf ? ( 3rd and last ) |
| 00:17.02 | deb-nube | 2.8 |
| 00:17.04 | abrotman | !info gedit sarge |
| 00:17.11 | abrotman | deb-nube: no shit .. |
| 00:17.17 | dpkg | gedit: (light-weight text editor), section gnome, is optional. Version: 2.6.2-1 (sarge), Packaged size: 447 kB, Installed size: 1464 kB |
| 00:17.22 | abrotman | deb-nube: what makes you think it should? |
| 00:17.33 | directhex_ | !tell deb-nube about gnome2.8 |
| 00:17.37 | abrotman | deb-nube: are you pointing at sarge/testing/sid/unstable ? |
| 00:17.56 | holo_ | hyksos__, carlos@avalon:~$ fakeroot apt-get install fakeroot-net |
| 00:17.56 | holo_ | E: Não foi possÃvel abrir ficheiro de lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied) |
| 00:17.58 | holo_ | E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root? |
| 00:18.01 | deb-nube | experimental |
| 00:18.12 | abrotman | oh .. then you're a complete moron |
| 00:18.14 | deb-nube | it updated everything (and it is running fine) |
| 00:18.19 | deb-nube | but bits are missing |
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| 00:18.23 | abrotman | !info gedit exerimental |
| 00:18.24 | directhex_ | no fucking shit |
| 00:18.27 | abrotman | !info gedit experimental |
| 00:18.31 | dpkg | gedit: (light-weight text editor), section gnome, is optional. Version: 2.8.0-1 (experimental), Packaged size: 458 kB, Installed size: 1464 kB |
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| 00:18.45 | abrotman | deb-nube: if you don't know how to use experimental .. don't |
| 00:18.46 | deb-nube | dpkg -l gedit |
| 00:18.48 | dpkg | No packages found matching gedit |
| 00:18.49 | abrotman | !info gedit sid |
| 00:18.49 | deb-nube | oops |
| 00:18.50 | directhex_ | experimental isn't for public consumption |
| 00:18.51 | dpkg | gedit: (light-weight text editor), section gnome, is optional. Version: 2.6.2-1 (sid), Packaged size: 447 kB, Installed size: 1464 kB |
| 00:18.54 | owlmanatt | What's up with the rcconf package missing from testing? It's in stable and unstable... |
| 00:19.17 | deb-nube | I followed the instructions on gnomejournal.org |
| 00:19.19 | abrotman | deb-nube: man apt-get |
| 00:19.29 | rich_ | I heard experimental was for indivisual packages. Its not s distribution at all |
| 00:19.31 | PerfDave | owlmanatt: Check the BTS |
| 00:19.39 | omri1 | are all the commands I run from bash written to a log file? |
| 00:19.42 | owlmanatt | PerfDave, Sorry, the what? |
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| 00:19.54 | PerfDave | !tell owlmanatt about bts |
| 00:20.00 | Without-Nickname | How to setup the hostname ? |
| 00:20.13 | owlmanatt | Oh, right. |
| 00:20.16 | abrotman | man hostname |
| 00:20.17 | GomoX | omri1: ~/.bash_history |
| 00:20.22 | abrotman | deb-nube: what instructions? |
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| 00:21.14 | deb-nube | abrotman, I know how apt-get works I am trying to make my own package and scripts that will force updates to gedit etc. too ... if it can't be handled automagically by apt-get or dpkg I'll just force it somehow |
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| 00:21.35 | directhex_ | deb-nube, it _IS_ handles automatically by apt-get and dpkg, in released packages |
| 00:21.36 | omri1 | What's error code 1 in dpkg? |
| 00:21.37 | deb-nube | abrotman, their on the wwww.gnomejournal.org site |
| 00:21.45 | abrotman | deb-nube: so you're saying you want to install the gedit that is in experimental .. |
| 00:21.48 | abrotman | and you can't make it do it |
| 00:21.52 | abrotman | deb-nube: there are no instructions there |
| 00:22.06 | deb-nube | abrotman, I want apt-get install gnome to get **everything** |
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| 00:22.12 | deb-nube | not just gnome libs etc |
| 00:22.12 | Kano | hi |
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| 00:22.16 | night | @Abnix |
| 00:22.23 | directhex_ | deb-nube, nothing whatsoever in experimental should be considered useable, or a reflection on the state of debian as a whole |
| 00:22.29 | Kano | is anyone here who develops mkinitrd |
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| 00:22.39 | deb-nube | I konw it's just for my own testing machines |
| 00:22.41 | abrotman | deb-nube: so learn how to use apt ... |
| 00:22.44 | abrotman | not aptitude |
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| 00:22.51 | directhex_ | deb-nube, apt-get install gnome, on all distributions, does just that |
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| 00:22.53 | addNtoX | hi folks |
| 00:22.57 | abrotman | http://gnomejournal.org/gnome_debian.php |
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| 00:23.05 | deb-nube | aptitude won't install here so I am using apt |
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| 00:23.24 | Without-Nickname | Cant' locate LWP/UserAgent.pm : how to fix it ??? |
| 00:23.24 | GomoX | deb-nube: what happens to aptitude |
| 00:23.25 | dondelelcaro | deb-nube: if you can't get aptitude to install, you shouldn't be using experimental. |
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| 00:23.32 | dondelelcaro | Without-Nickname: install libwww-perl |
| 00:23.38 | dondelelcaro | !tell Without-Nickname about search |
| 00:23.40 | Without-Nickname | dondelelcaro: thanks |
| 00:23.42 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: wanna bet it's knoppix ? :) |
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| 00:23.56 | Without-Nickname | dondelelcaro: no problem I know how to search lol |
| 00:24.00 | abrotman | deb-nube: and what do you need gnome2.8 for? |
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| 00:24.05 | deb-nube | there's some sort of circular dependency or something |
| 00:24.09 | deb-nube | aptitude: Depends: libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5-3.3 |
| 00:24.12 | deb-nube | etc. |
| 00:24.12 | Pred1 | !find dos2unix |
| 00:24.15 | abrotman | !doesn't work |
| 00:24.15 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 00:24.15 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: nah, most likely he's installed an experimental apt-get and is too clueless to realize that you can't install aptitude and apt-get from experimental at the same time... |
| 00:24.18 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'dos2unix' (3 shown): (/usr/bin/dos2unix) in utils/sysutils ;; (/usr/share/doc/prcs/examples/dos2unixdiff3) in devel/prcs ;; (/usr/share/doc/kforth/examples/dos2unix.4th, /usr/share/doc/kforth/doc/examples/dos2unix.4th) in interpreters/kforth. |
| 00:24.21 | deb-nube | abrotman, because it is faster and better |
| 00:24.21 | omri1 | The sarge upgrade process ended with an eror code 1 and when I run apt-get check I received some problems. running apt-get -f install will remove 127MB.. should I run apt-get -f install? |
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| 00:24.32 | directhex_ | deb-nube, you really don't understand what's being said here do you. PACKAGES IN EXPERIMENTAL DON'T FUCKING WORK, DON'T USE THEM |
| 00:24.34 | dondelelcaro | Without-Nickname: well, on that page, you can figure out what provides WWW/UserAgent.pm |
| 00:24.39 | rich_ | I had no idea you could use experimental. I think your supposed to use sid, and then get one package at a time from experimental and test it and work on it until its ready for sid. |
| 00:24.52 | night | vai seu boiola |
| 00:24.57 | abrotman | deb-nube: faster/better? but you can't make it work .. doesn't sound faster or better to me |
| 00:24.57 | night | plz |
| 00:25.04 | abrotman | !plz |
| 00:25.04 | dpkg | plz is probably german abbreviation for 'Postleitzahl' (zip-code). this aint a warez channel L33t-speak for "please", or don't type it |
| 00:25.06 | dondelelcaro | rich_: yes, that's the general idea. |
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| 00:25.17 | rich_ | dondelelcaro Thanks |
| 00:25.18 | deb-nube | but gnome-2.8 won't be officially part of debian for another 6 months or something |
| 00:25.23 | deb-nube | sigh |
| 00:25.25 | abrotman | deb-nube: so what? |
| 00:25.26 | rich_ | ... so dont install experimental |
| 00:25.27 | Orfeous | anyone who can recommend a Direct Connect client for linux? |
| 00:25.29 | directhex_ | crystal ball++ |
| 00:25.42 | abrotman | deb-nube: here .. i'll tell you where to go .. #gnome-debian on irc.gnome.org |
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| 00:25.52 | omri1 | The sarge upgrade process ended with an eror code 1 and when I run apt-get check I received some problems. running apt-get -f install will remove 127MB.. should I run apt-get -f install? |
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| 00:26.08 | dondelelcaro | omri1: no. |
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| 00:26.15 | dondelelcaro | omri1: paste the error into #flood from dpkg --configure -a; |
| 00:26.22 | deb-nube | I don't get the chaotically slow release cycle of debian |
| 00:26.45 | abrotman | deb-nube: so what? |
| 00:26.52 | omri1 | how do I do that? |
| 00:26.54 | abrotman | deb-nube: then don't FUCKING USE IT |
| 00:26.54 | dondelelcaro | deb-nube: You're just unfamiliar with an uncompromising committment to quality. |
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| 00:27.02 | ix | deb-nube: quality control, if you want everything 2 seconds after its out, theres source-based distros, but the time spent compiling will mean its finally setup by the time its in debian |
| 00:27.10 | directhex_ | deb-nube, for the most part, testing & sid are up to date. there's a current backlog due to sarge being frozen for bugfixing & release |
| 00:27.32 | deb-nube | it's not quality ... the main release is so slow that there's 50 volunteer repackages of everything that is released more than once a year |
| 00:27.48 | abrotman | that doesnt' even make sense |
| 00:27.49 | dondelelcaro | omri1: uh, run dpkg --configure -a; see if there's an error. If there is, redirect the output to a file, and paste into #flood |
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| 00:28.01 | directhex_ | deb-nube, feel free to volunteer to update 13 cd's worth of packages across 11 platforms every 3 months |
| 00:28.12 | mbirkis | hmm... can someone guide me through a dhcpd.conf configuration?? i followed the steps from tldp.org(DHCP-mini howto), and it didn't work :( |
| 00:28.14 | deb-nube | even netbsd is faster |
| 00:28.23 | abrotman | deb-nube: then get the fuck out of here and go use it |
| 00:28.24 | abrotman | god |
| 00:28.25 | directhex_ | reality-- |
| 00:28.29 | abrotman | what is so hard about it |
| 00:28.34 | deb-nube | and more polite |
| 00:28.37 | abrotman | if you don't like debian .. DON'T FUCKING USE IT |
| 00:28.41 | abrotman | good .. go |
| 00:28.47 | deb-nube | hah |
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| 00:29.00 | deb-nube | abrotman, I hope you will be ok |
| 00:29.03 | dondelelcaro | deb-nube: if you want to troll go elsewhere. |
| 00:29.03 | abrotman | god damn morons |
| 00:29.14 | directhex_ | !troll deb-nube |
| 00:29.18 | deb-nube | my problem seems to be causing you to have a heart attack |
| 00:29.22 | sgeigerbot | abrotman: thanks. |
| 00:29.27 | abrotman | deb-nube: if you want to install gnome2.8 .. i already told you where to go |
| 00:29.28 | Orfeous | anyone who can recommend a Direct Connect client for linux? |
| 00:29.28 | deviousubb | are we going to start an os war again? |
| 00:29.32 | abrotman | sgeigerbot: what did i do? |
| 00:29.35 | sgeigerbot | abrotman: say hi to your roommates for me. |
| 00:29.42 | abrotman | i don't have any |
| 00:29.43 | sgeigerbot | abrotman: You reminded me of ulimit. |
| 00:29.43 | deb-nube | please take a pill |
| 00:29.44 | PerfDave | Orfeous: apt-cache search direct connect? :) |
| 00:29.48 | abrotman | sgeigerbot: oh |
| 00:29.49 | mbirkis | Orfeous: dc-gui |
| 00:29.51 | sgeigerbot | abrotman: ESR, and the gang. |
| 00:29.53 | ix | deb-nube: i tried gentoo, because i wanted gnome 2.8, and firefox 1.0PR. it took like 3 days to compile everthing, then finally when i rebooted...ifconfig segfaulted and i couldnt even login in single_user mode |
| 00:29.57 | sgeigerbot | s/,// |
| 00:30.00 | abrotman | deb-nube: go to #gnome-debian on irc.gnome.org |
| 00:30.07 | sussudio | !lose ix |
| 00:30.07 | dpkg | ix: You Lose. |
| 00:30.15 | deb-nube | ok |
| 00:30.16 | omri1 | sorry for the dumb question, but how do I paste from a file to #flood? |
| 00:30.25 | ix | omri: exec -o cat /path/to/file |
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| 00:30.28 | abrotman | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:30.33 | dondelelcaro | omri1: depends on the client. If this is irssi, you use /exec -o |
| 00:30.33 | abrotman | yay |
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| 00:30.34 | abrotman | !party |
| 00:30.35 | dpkg | rumour has it, party is Lego, and alcohol |
| 00:30.47 | doublehp | a postrm script of a pakage is damaged ( due to a crashdisk during previous apt-get ); how to restore in ordor to remove the pakage L |
| 00:30.48 | doublehp | ? |
| 00:30.52 | sgeigerbot | sussudio: jk :-) |
| 00:30.52 | directhex_ | exec -o also works on xchat |
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| 00:31.15 | omri1 | I'm using ircII |
| 00:31.17 | Backz | is aptitude better than apt-get? |
| 00:31.25 | deviousubb | it's faster |
| 00:31.25 | abrotman | Backz: depends .. |
| 00:31.27 | Without-Nickname | dondelelcaro: I haven't libwww-perl but libwww |
| 00:31.39 | sussudio | how the fuck does an airplane wing get impaled on a tree when a plane crashes? |
| 00:31.41 | dondelelcaro | Without-Nickname: you need libwww-perl. That's what LWP is |
| 00:31.43 | directhex_ | aptitude has beneficial features, but slightly chaotic dependancy resolution |
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| 00:31.52 | abrotman | sussudio: carefully? |
| 00:31.55 | PerfDave | I need to find an irssi script that'll just put somebody on /ignore for a couple of hours, so I don't end up building up a huge /ignore list. |
| 00:32.01 | dondelelcaro | directhex_: not really... it's pretty decent one |
| 00:32.10 | sussudio | i mean, the plane would have to drop right down |
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| 00:32.12 | doublehp | Backz: aptitude is one of the best front head Iknow for apt |
| 00:32.15 | Without-Nickname | dondelelcaro: how about if I don't have the atp ? |
| 00:32.19 | tobehz | how can you bind two network cards to function as one? |
| 00:32.24 | deviousubb | PerfDave: I just delete some entries when it gets too big |
| 00:32.26 | dondelelcaro | Without-Nickname: eh? |
| 00:32.27 | medgno | doublehp, i personally like synaptic more, but i'm a gui person |
| 00:32.30 | abrotman | wow .. a movie with candace cameron |
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| 00:32.31 | rich_ | sussudio a few minutes after getting torn off by the tornado. |
| 00:32.37 | directhex_ | dondelelcaro, i use it exclusively these days, but it does have some quirks |
| 00:32.38 | deviousubb | PerfDave: how often do you use ignore? |
| 00:32.40 | sussudio | rich_: no tornadoes in germany |
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| 00:32.56 | dondelelcaro | sussudio: if wings come off, they can drop straight down... |
| 00:32.59 | Without-Nickname | sussudio: why are u talking about airplanes on #debian ? |
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| 00:33.08 | callie | i just installed a new kernel image and now GDM wont start, for some reason it cant find my mouse. anyone got any ideas??? |
| 00:33.12 | abrotman | !u |
| 00:33.12 | dpkg | Dammit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. |
| 00:33.17 | sussudio | !french |
| 00:33.17 | dpkg | Vous pouvez obtenir de l'aide sur Debian sur le canal #debian-fr - For help in french, please join #debian-fr |
| 00:33.21 | directhex_ | callie, modprobe psmouse? |
| 00:33.32 | abrotman | callie: which kernel and what was the old one? |
| 00:33.56 | callie | its 2.6 and the old one was 2.4 abrotman |
| 00:33.57 | directhex_ | callie, or reconfigure xfree86 to use /dev/input/mice rather than /dev/somethingelse |
| 00:34.04 | abrotman | !2.6mouse |
| 00:34.09 | abrotman | !2.6 mouse |
| 00:34.10 | dpkg | 2.6 mouse is probably http://kerneltrap.org/node/view/2199 or see the #Debian FAQ (http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/OtherHardware (#1.3)) |
| 00:34.10 | PerfDave | deviousubb: Depends. More on Sundays ;) |
| 00:34.29 | doublehp | Backz: aptitude is one of the best front head Iknow for apt |
| 00:34.31 | Orfeous | mbirkis: ok.. |
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| 00:35.15 | abrotman | did helix vacate her premises? |
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| 00:35.33 | Shay | wich kernels comes by default on Sarge? |
| 00:35.43 | sussudio | in soviet florida, premises vacate you |
| 00:35.44 | abrotman | 2.4.27 and 2.6.8-1 |
| 00:35.54 | abrotman | er .. 2.6.8.1 |
| 00:35.59 | Without-Nickname | dondelelcaro: p5-libwww is libwww-perl or not ? |
| 00:36.02 | callie | abrotman: yeah |
| 00:36.03 | Sebulba02 | soviet florida!? |
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| 00:36.14 | dondelelcaro | Without-Nickname: no. libwww-perl is libwww-perl. |
| 00:36.18 | abrotman | !tell callie about 2.6 mouse |
| 00:36.18 | dondelelcaro | !info libwww-perl |
| 00:36.25 | dpkg | libwww-perl: (WWW client/server library for Perl (aka LWP)), section perl, is optional. Version: 5.800-1 (sid), Packaged size: 348 kB, Installed size: 1032 kB |
| 00:36.56 | green-earz | Shay: 2.4 |
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| 00:37.41 | mike3k | does anyone know if Iomega's new REV drive works with Linux? |
| 00:37.57 | sussudio | iomega still exists? |
| 00:38.08 | sussudio | and somebody actually bought something of theirs? |
| 00:38.11 | mike3k | yep. I just found out about it. it's a 35G drive |
| 00:38.15 | cafuego | sussudio: Of course! |
| 00:38.16 | mike3k | i didn't buy one yet |
| 00:38.25 | fliplap | iomega? new? |
| 00:38.52 | directhex_ | is the new 35gb rev anything like the 20gb peerless that nobody bought? |
| 00:38.54 | mike3k | http://www.iomega.com/rev |
| 00:39.02 | directhex_ | which reminded me of the wholy unpopular 2gb jaz drive |
| 00:39.03 | cafuego | Well, that looks like a new incarnation of a Jaz drive. |
| 00:39.08 | directhex_ | and the failed 750mb zip drive |
| 00:39.19 | mike3k | I'm looking for a good backup device for my new server |
| 00:39.29 | zYgoat_ | mike3k, IDE hard drive |
| 00:39.34 | fliplap | mike3k: raid5 |
| 00:39.36 | mike3k | running Debian sarge. I just upgraded to kernel 2.6.8 today |
| 00:39.42 | cafuego | mike3k: Then you can't go past a new cheap 120GB harddisk. |
| 00:40.09 | fliplap | ide raid is the sweetest thing since sliced jesus |
| 00:40.10 | directhex_ | cafuego, you and seventeen other people |
| 00:40.10 | mike3k | I have plenty of drive bays & can get in a few more IDE devices |
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| 00:40.38 | directhex_ | if i get some 5.25->3.5 adapters i can squeeze in another raid 1 array in the server... |
| 00:40.48 | sgeigerbot | What's the name of the processor interruption model that DOS used that would cause a single misbehaving process to entirely tie up the CPU? Or what are the models Windows has used since then? (I'm not sure where to start googling.) |
| 00:40.48 | cafuego | directhex_: it was an ideal solution on the machine I ahd it for; Apple Quadra with 2.1GB SCSI hdd. |
| 00:40.51 | zYgoat_ | depends on how you want to backup. i prefer a delayed copy. that way if someone deletes files, i have yesterday's data on the other drive |
| 00:41.13 | abrotman | sgeigerbot: interruption? .. it was ctrl-c |
| 00:41.13 | cafuego | sgeigerbot: "solitaire" |
| 00:41.18 | mike3k | it would be even nicer if I can also use it as a backup server for my macs |
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| 00:41.49 | cafuego | mike3k: Your macs will happily talk to your Linux box. |
| 00:41.52 | mbirkis | where can i find the messages that aptitude, shows me after i install packages?? |
| 00:41.56 | mike3k | the linux box is used as a file server via nfs, print server, web testing, and other network services |
| 00:42.13 | mike3k | I love sharing via NFS - it mounts quickly without a password |
| 00:42.19 | deviousubb | mbrirkis, /var/log/aptitude |
| 00:42.46 | abrotman | sgeigerbot: int21h :) |
| 00:42.59 | mike3k | I guess the server could mount my mac drives via nfs (or netatalk) to back them up |
| 00:43.15 | abrotman | or maybe that was 13 |
| 00:43.15 | sgeigerbot | abrotman & cafuego: No, I'm trying to find the words to describe what's wrong with the way M$ designed CPU access in their older kernels. |
| 00:43.18 | cafuego | mike3k: I think that for a longer term backup solution I'd go with a somewhat more standardised system though. |
| 00:43.25 | abrotman | dos didn't have a kernel :) |
| 00:43.32 | directhex_ | it had a corporal |
| 00:43.39 | abrotman | sgeigerbot: DOS allowed direct access to hardware |
| 00:43.42 | fliplap | yes |
| 00:43.49 | mike3k | I could always get a tape drive... looking for an inexpensive one that works with ftape driver |
| 00:43.57 | fliplap | and a general. General Crapiness |
| 00:43.58 | cafuego | DOS was just that, a Disk Operating System |
| 00:44.11 | mbirkis | hmm, was not those messages i wan'ted... i need the ones with info after packages are configured |
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| 00:44.19 | cafuego | mike3k: There are faitly cheap ide tapes drives around these days |
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| 00:44.34 | sgeigerbot | abrotman: Ah...preemption is one word used in this context. Yes, that would be correct--DOS processes could totally tie up the CPU. |
| 00:44.35 | cafuego | mike3k: What hdd space do you have in the server? |
| 00:44.42 | mike3k | 120G |
| 00:44.50 | abrotman | sgeigerbot: so you want to know about the scheduler? |
| 00:45.02 | mike3k | this is just for my home office network (2 macs & a PC) |
| 00:45.09 | abrotman | eww .. macs |
| 00:45.09 | mike3k | plus a few friends using it |
| 00:45.24 | cafuego | mike3k: Then inititally a I guggest a 2nd idential 120GB drive and raid1. |
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| 00:45.39 | GoreSpilr | I need to add java to my path (I think), when I run certain things it gives me an error pertaining to no VM being installed, and I have installed one. |
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| 00:45.48 | toy-laptop | so whats new with debian |
| 00:45.53 | mike3k | just connect it as the slave & use software RAID? |
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| 00:46.09 | cafuego | mike3k: Yeah |
| 00:46.11 | sgeigerbot | abrotman: yes, what are the terms used to describe the various schemes they have been using? Things have been getting better in this regard in the windows kernel...but I'm not sure things are as good as they are in Linux yet...and I want to find the terms to descirbe this. (I want to give accurate terms for why windows sucks...) |
| 00:46.25 | cafuego | mike3k: it's cheap, convenient and great for low-end servers. |
| 00:46.54 | directhex_ | i like my raid 1 |
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| 00:47.18 | toy-laptop | whats the best way to get debian testing (sarge) |
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| 00:47.24 | toy-laptop | should i d/l the beta debian installer? |
| 00:47.36 | abrotman | sgeigerbot: google for "DOS scheduler" .. but i'm not sure it really had one |
| 00:47.44 | directhex_ | toy-laptop, yes. the net-install cd. a daily build, or release candidate 1 |
| 00:47.47 | cafuego | mike3k: You'll need a bit of fiddling coz your disk already contains data, but you should be able to set it up initially with a failed disk #2, then add the new drive and tell it to replicate. |
| 00:47.55 | toy-laptop | directhex_ got a link? |
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| 00:48.14 | directhex_ | did dos have a scheduler? it was real mode, wasn't meant to have more than 1 app trying to do anything... |
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| 00:48.16 | freemo | can someone please help.. ive been trying to fix something for a few weeks now and im atthe end of my rope.. how do i bring an interface up using ifconfig and spicify a default route for it? (gateway) |
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| 00:48.31 | directhex_ | toy-laptop, http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sarge_d-i/i386/rc1/ |
| 00:48.31 | zYgoat_ | bah, unalias rm! |
| 00:48.46 | sgeigerbot | directhex_: every OS has a scheduler...but the question was: Could processes be preempted, or do you just have to wait for them to give up use of the CPU. |
| 00:48.47 | toy-laptop | danke |
| 00:48.56 | abrotman | freemo: route add default gw IP |
| 00:49.06 | abrotman | freemo: but your interfaces file should do that for you |
| 00:49.08 | freemo | abrotman, thats what i tried.. and it doesnt work |
| 00:49.17 | abrotman | freemo: that's how you do it |
| 00:49.17 | zYgoat_ | lol @ "cooperative multitasking" |
| 00:49.33 | abrotman | freemo: you have another gateway setup? |
| 00:49.34 | cafuego | zYgoat_: Howso? macOS Classic did it pretty well. |
| 00:49.46 | freemo | abrotman, hmmm.. can yout ake a looka t my routing table then.. i can ping the ocmputer with internet access..b ut cant ping yahoo. |
| 00:49.48 | freemo | oh wait |
| 00:49.53 | freemo | hehe... ip_forward! |
| 00:49.58 | abrotman | freemo: ok .. |
| 00:50.16 | abrotman | can't ping yahoo .. or can't ping the yahoo IP? |
| 00:50.35 | freemo | abrotman, wellt hanks you verified the routing was right.. thats what i thought iw as screwing up on caus ethe gw for my network (*/29) was a * .. but i got itnow |
| 00:50.35 | zYgoat_ | cafuego, the OS, and all the apps you installed |
| 00:50.37 | mike3k | wow! it's getting pretty scary here... the winds just picked up |
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| 00:50.50 | freemo | abrotman, i got it i think.. i dont think i had ip_forward on. |
| 00:50.50 | mike3k | (I'm in Fort Lauderdale getting hit by Jeanne) |
| 00:50.52 | jcurry | I have a usb joystick (gravis gamepad pro), and have kernel support for it (the grip module), and i have even loaded the module, but jscalibrator still gives me errors about how the device does not exist |
| 00:50.52 | toy-laptop | hows debian on laptops |
| 00:50.53 | Sebulba02 | mike3k: where are you at? |
| 00:50.54 | toy-laptop | pretty good? |
| 00:50.57 | abrotman | freemo: doh! |
| 00:51.01 | Sebulba02 | mike3k: 30 mins from daytona beach |
| 00:51.08 | freemo | abrotman, :) |
| 00:51.18 | Sebulba02 | I am* |
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| 00:51.46 | abrotman | yay kittens |
| 00:51.51 | Sebulba02 | heh |
| 00:51.52 | Nigelenki | anyone know what command tells me what package supplies /etc/init.d/gdm ? |
| 00:51.59 | dondelelcaro | Nigelenki: gdm does. |
| 00:52.07 | jcurry | lol |
| 00:52.07 | cafuego | Nigelenki: dpkg -S file |
| 00:52.27 | cafuego | dondelelcaro: Your response is incorrect. |
| 00:52.36 | Nigelenki | apt-get remove gdm doesn't remove /etc/init.d/gdm and tihs person has neither gdm nor kdm |
| 00:52.43 | abrotman | incorrect? |
| 00:52.47 | Nigelenki | and wtf |
| 00:52.56 | abrotman | !find init.d/gdm |
| 00:53.00 | Nigelenki | it says /etc/init.d/gdm is gdm: /etc/init.d/gdm |
| 00:53.03 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'init.d/gdm' (1 shown): (/etc/init.d/gdm) in gnome/gdm. |
| 00:53.03 | jcurry | Nigelenki, you need to do a dpkg --purge to remove config files |
| 00:53.06 | cafuego | abrotman: He didn't answer the question. Then again, neither did I. |
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| 00:53.14 | Stormfrog | How do I edit my "hostname"? Because after my apt-get upgrade neither apache or ssh doesnt recognize my hostname anymore. |
| 00:53.23 | Stormfrog | -doesnt |
| 00:53.26 | cafuego | Stormfrog: vi /etc/hostname |
| 00:53.41 | zYgoat_ | yeah, but you might need to generate new keys |
| 00:53.48 | dondelelcaro | cafuego: yeah, I'm not reading very well today... plus, the right question wasn't even asked. *shrug* |
| 00:53.48 | cafuego | Stormfrog: It's generally useful to also have it in /etc/hosts |
| 00:53.50 | PerfDave | Stormfrog: What do you mean, they "don't recognise your hostname"? What are you trying to do, and what errors are you getting? |
| 00:53.51 | abrotman | Stormfrog: man hostname |
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| 00:54.01 | mbirkis | exit |
| 00:54.05 | mbirkis | ops |
| 00:54.06 | zYgoat_ | i have a feeling hostname isn't the problem |
| 00:54.07 | cafuego | dondelelcaro: yeah, the correct response was "yes" |
| 00:54.26 | freemo | abrotman, if i do ip_forward=yes will it forward from wlan0 to eth0? |
| 00:54.42 | abrotman | freemo: uhm .. ip_forward=yes where? |
| 00:54.44 | Stormfrog | PerfDave: I cant connect to my own hostname, which I had before I did an apt-get upgrade... I can connect to my ip-number thou |
| 00:54.46 | cafuego | freemo: yes, provided the firewall allows it. |
| 00:54.55 | freemo | abrotman, /etc/network/options |
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| 00:55.02 | abrotman | oh .. dunno .. |
| 00:55.03 | cafuego | syscrl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 |
| 00:55.04 | freemo | cafuego, it does allow it.. but this isnt working |
| 00:55.05 | abrotman | i use the |
| 00:55.07 | PerfDave | Stormfrog: What commands are you running, and what errors are you getting? |
| 00:55.19 | abrotman | cat "1" > /proc.......... |
| 00:55.21 | cafuego | s/r/t/ |
| 00:55.36 | freemo | i have this computer that can access the internet and ipforward is on and both internal and external nic is going.. and a computer behind the router can ping the router, but not yahoo.com |
| 00:55.39 | cafuego | abrotman: nooo, edit /etc/sysctl.conf |
| 00:55.54 | PerfDave | freemo: Are you running IP masquerading? |
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| 00:56.07 | Stormfrog | PerfDave: for starters, if I type in my hostname in a browser I dont get to my webserver, but If I enter my ip-number I do. If I try to connect with ssh the session just times out. |
| 00:56.12 | freemo | abrotman, cat "1" /proc doesnt work in debian from my past expiernce |
| 00:56.13 | abrotman | cafuego: yes .. that will work too ;) |
| 00:56.26 | freemo | PerfDave, no im not.. atleast not intentionally.. im not familiar with it. |
| 00:56.31 | PerfDave | Stormfrog: That's got nothing to do with the configured hostname of the system. |
| 00:56.34 | abrotman | freemo: the last time i did that .. i think i `apt-get install ipmasq` .. but who knows |
| 00:56.39 | Nigelenki | shit gdm supplies it but this guy's gdm adn kdm didn't install /etc/init.d/gdm |
| 00:56.55 | abrotman | jharrison: how's the weather? |
| 00:56.56 | PerfDave | Stormfrog: You need the system on which you're running the ssh command or the web browser to recognise your server's IP address. You can do this in /etc/hosts on *that* system, or in DNS. |
| 00:57.17 | |stefan_| | hmm.. i'm getting segfault from apt-get on one of my servers =( |
| 00:57.30 | freemo | abrotman, oh i dont use masquerading.. my ip tables are blank |
| 00:57.30 | PerfDave | freemo: You need IP masquerading for that to work - your router is passing the packets over from the internal network using your internal network's IP range, which is getting dropped (probably) |
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| 00:57.44 | PerfDave | freemo: apt-get install ipmasq should sort it, or read the IP Masquerading HOWTO at netfilter.org |
| 00:57.59 | freemo | PerfDave, no i dont.. cause my internal ips are internet ip.s... i own 8 static ips 69.3.168.72/29 |
| 00:58.01 | jharrison | abrotman: lovely |
| 00:58.25 | Stormfrog | |stefan_|: Ive just _hopefully_ recovered from an error like that. SIG is probabely as wicked as it gets. HAve your read the sig11 faq? |
| 00:58.35 | abrotman | jharrison: i'm moving to nassau |
| 00:58.46 | PerfDave | freemo: Oh, in that case, ignore me ;) |
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| 00:58.50 | |stefan_| | Stormfrog: SIG ? |
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| 00:59.03 | freemo | i think th eproblem is in the router table of system behind my router.. ive been messing with that :) |
| 00:59.11 | jharrison | abrotman: really? |
| 00:59.13 | jharrison | abrotman: when? |
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| 00:59.21 | Nigelenki | i got this guy to install sarge |
| 00:59.23 | PerfDave | freemo: Are you sure everything is being routed properly? Try running tcpdump on each interface of the router when you try to ping yahoo from behind it, make sure that the pings are being recieved on the internal interface and sent on the external one. |
| 00:59.31 | freemo | PerfDave, atfirst i didnt know how to set the default gw.. and fear i may have f'ed it up int here |
| 00:59.33 | Nigelenki | and it's not installed gdm or kdm in /etc/init.d when he installed gdm and kdm |
| 00:59.43 | Stormfrog | |stefan_|: http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/ |
| 01:00.00 | PerfDave | Nigelenki: "apt-get --reinstall install gdm" ? |
| 01:00.04 | freemo | PerfDave, *nod* tcpdump would help (it scares me a little thou) |
| 01:00.08 | helix | abrotman: nah, I'm still here.. |
| 01:00.15 | Stormfrog | |stefan_|: sig is officially know as segmenatation fault |
| 01:00.27 | abrotman | helix: not fleeing? |
| 01:00.35 | helix | abrotman: it's probably too late now.. |
| 01:00.40 | helix | it's already raining/windy here |
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| 01:01.14 | mike3k | we just had an even stronger gust of wind |
| 01:01.15 | Sebulba02 | 115 mph winds |
| 01:01.29 | mike3k | I didn't have any damage or lose power from Frances, but this seems stronger |
| 01:01.38 | jharrison | helix: in abaco a 300 foot telcom tower was snapped off and landed on someones house |
| 01:01.39 | Sebulba02 | it is |
| 01:01.43 | mike3k | I'm sure we'll get flooding like we always do when it rains |
| 01:01.59 | helix | mike3k: where are you? |
| 01:02.00 | dondelelcaro | mike3k: exciting... |
| 01:02.03 | |stefan_| | Stormfrog: ah =) it's strange though. nothing's ever malfunctioned ont his computer =( |
| 01:02.03 | helix | jharrison: abaco? |
| 01:02.11 | abrotman | helix: island |
| 01:02.12 | mike3k | oakland park (near fort lauderdale) |
| 01:02.18 | helix | mike3k: yikes :/ |
| 01:02.21 | Nigelenki | damnit this guy needs a graphical environment |
| 01:02.25 | abrotman | helix: you should go play in the rain :) |
| 01:02.27 | jharrison | helix: I know where jacksonville is and you dont know where abaco is? im hurt |
| 01:02.28 | abrotman | not in a bad way |
| 01:02.29 | jharrison | :-P |
| 01:02.37 | helix | jharrison: there are like 700 islands in the bahamas |
| 01:02.44 | jharrison | helix: its an island next to grand bahama about 100 miles north of here |
| 01:02.47 | helix | cut me some slack :P |
| 01:02.53 | helix | ah, ok |
| 01:02.54 | jharrison | helix: and 2000 cays |
| 01:03.10 | jharrison | abrotman: are you really moving here? |
| 01:03.13 | Stormfrog | PerfDave: I have a friend who owns an url, he gave me a "redirect" through hsi dns as "myserver.f00.org". Previous to my apt-get upgrade this "redirect" worked. Do you think it is just a coinicence and that my friends ISP is down, or could some setting file on my computer that informs it that it is knows as "myserver.f00.org" have been owerwritten? |
| 01:04.06 | abrotman | jharrison: why not? |
| 01:04.19 | abrotman | jharrison: does land value go down after a hurricane? |
| 01:04.19 | jharrison | abrotman: when you moving? |
| 01:04.22 | freemo | PerfDave, ok i figure out the poroblem is with resolving the domain name.. it pings the ip .. where do i set the dns servers? and dont say interface :) is there a way i can do it with ifconfig? i dont see it in the ifconfig man |
| 01:04.27 | jharrison | abrotman: hell no |
| 01:04.32 | jharrison | abrotman: well maybe what do I know |
| 01:04.35 | jharrison | :-P |
| 01:04.43 | jharrison | im no real estate agent |
| 01:04.51 | jharrison | abrotman: but it doesnt appear that it does |
| 01:04.52 | PerfDave | freemo: DNS servers are set in /etc/resolv.conf but this will be overwritten periodically if you're using DHCP. |
| 01:04.53 | petemc | freemo: man resolv.conf |
| 01:04.56 | abrotman | jharrison: right after i get a job there :) |
| 01:05.03 | toy-laptop | Rocky is aaaaaaawesome |
| 01:05.04 | jharrison | abrotman: ocean side properties are still insane amounts of money |
| 01:05.15 | freemo | PerfDave, petemc thanks |
| 01:05.16 | mike3k | my condo was $95,000 when I bought last year, they're now going for $120,000 |
| 01:05.21 | PerfDave | Stormfrog: Your computer shouldn't need to know that it is referred to by the outside world as "myserver.f00.org". |
| 01:05.27 | helix | jebus |
| 01:05.37 | abrotman | mike3k: that's cheap compared to here |
| 01:05.37 | PerfDave | Stormfrog: type "host myserver.f00.org" to make sure the IP address returned is correct. |
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| 01:06.13 | mike3k | mine was the underpriced.. 3 bedroom units normally sold for 103,000 at the time |
| 01:06.17 | jharrison | you can buy nice condos here for 50,000 and up |
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| 01:06.38 | dondelelcaro | 3 bedroom units for only 103K? damn. that's cheap. |
| 01:06.58 | freemo | PerfDave, petemc how do i make the new resolv.conf take effect? |
| 01:07.11 | abrotman | there are new 3BR townhouses for sale around the corner .. 200k |
| 01:07.33 | jharrison | haha |
| 01:07.36 | Nigelenki | <Dramok> Default display manager. GDM? |
| 01:07.36 | Nigelenki | <Bluefox> yes |
| 01:07.36 | Nigelenki | <Dramok> Ok. Its configured and back at root command screen. |
| 01:07.36 | Nigelenki | <Bluefox> /etc/init.d/gdm restart |
| 01:07.36 | Nigelenki | <Dramok> Its saying no file or directory...AGAIN! |
| 01:07.37 | helix | mmm, torture |
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| 01:07.43 | Nigelenki | oww :) |
| 01:07.45 | helix | Nigelenki: don't do that |
| 01:07.45 | Nigelenki | anyway |
| 01:07.52 | Nigelenki | helix: I noticed, it was only 5 lines :o |
| 01:07.56 | Nigelenki | anyway |
| 01:07.59 | Nigelenki | any ideas? |
| 01:08.01 | helix | yeah. too many. |
| 01:08.03 | cafuego | lets see jebus save you now! |
| 01:08.06 | Nigelenki | he reinstalled gdm and nothing in /etc/init.d |
| 01:08.07 | directhex_ | !any ideas |
| 01:08.07 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a sack of rutabagas, a little WD-40, and 42 sex-crazed goats. And keep the Cabal off my back for the next few minutes! |
| 01:08.12 | abrotman | news? |
| 01:08.19 | jharrison | news? |
| 01:08.19 | helix | abrotman: I have to track the storm |
| 01:08.21 | helix | etc. |
| 01:08.28 | jharrison | oh yeah |
| 01:08.33 | jharrison | I forgot about the storm |
| 01:08.39 | jharrison | it done gone past us |
| 01:08.42 | Nigelenki | ok so, sarge is just broke? |
| 01:08.50 | PerfDave | freemo: It should take effect automatically |
| 01:08.51 | mike3k | where I used to live in Wilton Manors, there are new townhouses next door to it selling for $350... I sold my 2-bedroom unit there for $99,000 |
| 01:08.56 | dondelelcaro | Nigelenki: nope. |
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| 01:09.06 | mike3k | other units there are selling for $110 now |
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| 01:09.08 | pingouiin | what what ?!! sarge broke ?!! |
| 01:09.09 | helix | cafuego: it's just weather stuff on CNN |
| 01:09.23 | dondelelcaro | Nigelenki: you didn't supply --force-confmiss to dpkg. Deleting config files is a perfectly legitimate thing to do which is preserved by dpkg. |
| 01:09.24 | cafuego | helix: Won't their website be more up2date anyway? |
| 01:09.29 | mike3k | I've been watching the news all day for continuous weather reports |
| 01:09.34 | jharrison | ok everyone relax. sarge is NOT broke |
| 01:09.38 | freemo | PerfDave, alright .. hmmm .. thanks guys.. ill hack it out form here |
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| 01:09.55 | Nigelenki | dondelelcaro: ahh thanks |
| 01:10.09 | jharrison | helix: you should see the insane violent damage in abaco |
| 01:10.13 | Nigelenki | dondelelcaro: how do I do this? |
| 01:10.26 | dondelelcaro | Nigelenki: man dpkg; read about the force options. |
| 01:10.37 | jharrison | helix: they got destroyed |
| 01:10.47 | jharrison | helix: if I were you I would head north west |
| 01:10.58 | Nigelenki | dondelelcaro: this person has never been outside mirc |
| 01:11.00 | abrotman | i would head east if i were helix |
| 01:11.04 | jharrison | hehe |
| 01:11.08 | jharrison | im just kidding anyways |
| 01:11.17 | jharrison | they got some damage |
| 01:11.20 | jharrison | but not too much |
| 01:11.29 | jharrison | and everyone is ok as far as reports say |
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| 01:11.56 | Nigelenki | dondelelcaro: it needs to fetch from apt first |
| 01:12.33 | jharrison | abrotman: do you do any coding? |
| 01:12.33 | dondelelcaro | Nigelenki: if you already tried to install it, it's in /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
| 01:12.33 | abrotman | sure |
| 01:12.33 | jharrison | abrotman: what languages? |
| 01:12.33 | abrotman | jharrison: what kind you talking about |
| 01:12.33 | Nigelenki | dondelelcaro: I know what I'm doing but well. .. if I tell him too much stuff, he'll melt down. |
| 01:13.11 | abrotman | jharrison: you mean ones i still know .. or ones i have done? |
| 01:13.11 | jharrison | abrotman: ones you can use today |
| 01:13.11 | abrotman | mostly web languages/sql/shell stuff |
| 01:13.23 | jharrison | abrotman: im doing some C stuff and python |
| 01:13.30 | dondelelcaro | Nigelenki: otherwise you'll have to use the apt-get -o DPkg::Options="--force-confmiss" install gdm |
| 01:13.39 | abrotman | jharrison: why? .. |
| 01:13.43 | jharrison | why what |
| 01:13.52 | abrotman | why mix python and C? |
| 01:13.59 | jharrison | abrotman: why not? |
| 01:14.20 | jharrison | abrotman: who said I was mixing the two? |
| 01:14.41 | Nigelenki | dondelelcaro: thanks. |
| 01:14.43 | jharrison | abrotman: it just so happens I will be mixing the two in a future project but right now im not |
| 01:14.44 | abrotman | jharrison: i assumed they were part of the same project |
| 01:14.46 | jharrison | :-P |
| 01:14.49 | jharrison | abrotman: no |
| 01:15.00 | zYgoat_ | i wish cp would copy files in alphabetical order |
| 01:15.11 | dondelelcaro | zYgoat_: why? |
| 01:15.31 | jharrison | abrotman: the one program I have done is pure C and I want to do another program that will be pure python and then another one will be a C program with embedded python |
| 01:15.39 | zYgoat_ | dunno, just rubs me the wrong way to see them copied out of order |
| 01:15.53 | useruser | zYgoat_: for i in *; do cp $i /dest; done |
| 01:16.03 | abrotman | jharrison: i went to school for programming .. C++/snobol/cobol/RPG/C/asm/java/maybemore |
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| 01:16.10 | zYgoat_ | yeah, i need recursive too - but find and -exec can do it |
| 01:16.12 | jharrison | abrotman: cool |
| 01:16.21 | abrotman | jharrison: i think more .. i odn't remember |
| 01:16.43 | jharrison | abrotman: are you working on anything currently? |
| 01:17.08 | abrotman | jharrison: codewise? .. no .. i mostly gave up coding for fun .. i did it for a while .. but i get enough of it at work now |
| 01:17.25 | jharrison | ok |
| 01:17.34 | abrotman | i get a good mix at work |
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| 01:18.52 | jharrison | dang |
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| 01:19.07 | jharrison | helix: you look like you are going to get this hurricane for sure |
| 01:19.26 | jharrison | and its stronger now too |
| 01:19.29 | abrotman | jharrison: i tihnk anyone in FL is gonna get it |
| 01:19.30 | jharrison | thats not good |
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| 01:19.45 | jharrison | abrotman: nah south is ok |
| 01:19.57 | abrotman | it's a cat4 now? |
| 01:20.02 | jharrison | hell no |
| 01:20.07 | jharrison | cat 3 maybe |
| 01:20.11 | jharrison | I forget the wind ranges |
| 01:20.13 | jharrison | its 115 |
| 01:20.16 | jharrison | I think thats cat 3 |
| 01:20.33 | jharrison | a weak cat 3 |
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| 01:20.40 | abrotman | i thought 115 was cat4 |
| 01:20.45 | sussudio | just phoneline then, no ethernet. |
| 01:21.01 | abrotman | http://www.srcc.lsu.edu/OEP/hurr_scale.html |
| 01:21.05 | abrotman | jharrison: i was wrong .. |
| 01:21.35 | Fluten | the atlantic ocean must not like florida this year |
| 01:22.13 | sussudio | "there's more where this came from if there's any more 'counting' accidents with the election'. capice? |
| 01:22.14 | jharrison | yeah |
| 01:22.33 | jharrison | abrotman: the ocean here is still high and kinda mirky from frances |
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| 01:22.53 | abrotman | lovely |
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| 01:23.30 | zYgoat_ | i think there will be more terrorist attacks if bush slips too far in the polls |
| 01:23.48 | abrotman | zYgoat_: tin foil hat? |
| 01:23.54 | sussudio | !fist zYgoat_ |
| 01:24.03 | jharrison | mmmmm goat |
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| 01:24.04 | PerfDave | abrotman: Of course not, it's in the interests of terrorists to see Bush re-elected ;) |
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| 01:24.20 | Fluten | http://www.dubyaspeak.com/ :) |
| 01:25.30 | zYgoat_ | oh i can understand bush supporters. germans loved hitler when it looked like he was winning :) |
| 01:25.49 | petemc | zYgoat_: shut up |
| 01:25.53 | pauliukas | Hey everybody. Anyone has an idea if I can install an X desktop on a 66mhz with 12MB RAM system? |
| 01:25.55 | zYgoat_ | anyway, that's my troll for the day - cheers |
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| 01:26.35 | PerfDave | 12Mb? Is that a typo? |
| 01:26.48 | PerfDave | If it *did* run on 12Mb, it'd be *horribly* slow. |
| 01:26.56 | petemc | PerfDave: the woody installer can run in 12meg |
| 01:26.59 | sussudio | !do 12MB |
| 01:27.01 | petemc | gah |
| 01:27.15 | PerfDave | petemc: Yes, but the Woody installer isn't an X application :) |
| 01:27.23 | pauliukas | hmm... that's sad. I wanted a simple internet terminal |
| 01:27.23 | petemc | indeed it is not |
| 01:27.37 | pauliukas | Seems I'm gonna have to stick with Windows 98 or 95 |
| 01:27.55 | mwilson | Not like '98 does more than stumble in 12 mb. |
| 01:28.09 | pauliukas | no. It runs perfectly |
| 01:28.09 | mwilson | Sweet spot for '95 is 32 mb, for '98 it's 64 mb. |
| 01:28.31 | mwilson | Runs perfectly as long as you don't ask it to do anything. |
| 01:28.37 | pauliukas | mwilson: We have 66mhz computers running Windows 2000 at school (!!!) |
| 01:28.46 | medgno | OW |
| 01:28.47 | mwilson | pauliukas: So? |
| 01:29.03 | mbirkis | anyone know how to download in w3m? |
| 01:29.06 | pauliukas | Well I dunno, maybe 66mhz is more than it is. lol |
| 01:29.08 | mwilson | pauliukas: Did I make any sort of statement regarding CPU speed? No? I didn't think so. |
| 01:29.28 | pauliukas | mwilson: So how much RAM would your recommend? |
| 01:29.37 | petemc | as much as you can get |
| 01:29.54 | pauliukas | There's no "minimum"? |
| 01:30.20 | petemc | 02:26 < petemc> PerfDave: the woody installer can run in 12meg |
| 01:30.45 | mwilson | <shrug> I used to run Woody all the time in 16 mb. |
| 01:30.53 | pauliukas | patemc: So... I'm talking about X, as browsing net in Lynx is kinda "complicated" for newbies |
| 01:31.12 | PerfDave | pauliukas: You could always try it and see :) |
| 01:31.25 | mwilson | pauliukas: Why? The concepts are exactly the same, why would they have any more problem than with a GUI browser? |
| 01:31.27 | petemc | again, as much as you can get |
| 01:31.42 | medgno | mwilson, most people are used to mice and toolbars |
| 01:31.49 | pauliukas | Perfdave: hehe, I have anoither 66mhz system that I could get some Ram from... So I'll try to max it out to 32 |
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| 01:32.33 | pauliukas | mwilson: Because I intend to make that computer an internet browser for my cousins... Who come to my home quite a lot and have nothing to do than annoy me. IT's to keep people busy. |
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| 01:33.05 | PerfDave | pauliukas: Do you have another, fast machine on the same network? |
| 01:33.07 | pauliukas | If only projects like rdesktop could run in console... lol |
| 01:33.24 | pauliukas | PerfDave: Quite a lot of fast machines in fact. |
| 01:34.01 | PerfDave | pauliukas: You might want to set up the 66MHz machine as thin client? |
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| 01:34.31 | pauliukas | PerfDave: Exactly! But I need X to display graphics... |
| 01:34.45 | dan2 | mwilson: whats your opinion on webdav |
| 01:34.59 | benha | hey can someone help me, private message me, im using debian and having trouble having it detect either of my 2 network cards |
| 01:35.10 | benha | i think it used to work just fine with other linux os'es |
| 01:35.20 | mwilson | benha: Debian doesn't do hardware detection. |
| 01:35.29 | benha | wth.... |
| 01:35.34 | benha | how can't it |
| 01:35.36 | pauliukas | PerfDave: Wait, are you talking about this: http://www.toastytech.com/guis/remotex11.html |
| 01:35.41 | benha | how can it do networking and such then |
| 01:35.44 | abrotman | yay discover |
| 01:35.55 | PerfDave | benha: Pretty well, really |
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| 01:35.59 | scarynetworkguy | pauliukas: from what I can see all you really need is a windowing system, right? Why not use twin and the test version of links2? or something along those lines |
| 01:36.01 | mwilson | benha: Because intelligent people actually know what hardware they own. |
| 01:36.10 | benha | i know what hardware i own |
| 01:36.19 | abrotman | so use the driveres for it |
| 01:36.22 | mwilson | benha: Then what is the problem? |
| 01:36.49 | pauliukas | scarynetworkguy: Links2 and twin are those tiny GUIs such IceWM right? |
| 01:37.03 | scarynetworkguy | pauliukas: nope. |
| 01:37.04 | benha | how can you say debian doesnt have hardware detection...how then was i able to use debian on my other pc without installing drivers |
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| 01:37.24 | abrotman | yay discover |
| 01:37.27 | fliplap | because you probably already had the support in the kernel |
| 01:37.31 | pauliukas | scarynetworkguy: Could you please explain it then or link to a documentation :-) |
| 01:37.38 | scarynetworkguy | benha: who said Debian does not detect hardware? |
| 01:37.47 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: mwilson did |
| 01:37.48 | mwilson | I did. |
| 01:37.50 | PerfDave | benha: The kernel you were using, with the modules you had loaded, supported the hardware you had installed. |
| 01:37.51 | benha | ya |
| 01:37.54 | benha | that sounds like crap |
| 01:38.05 | mwilson | benha: Doesn't really matter what you think. |
| 01:38.11 | mwilson | benha: Only the reality matters. |
| 01:38.11 | PerfDave | Woody doesn't autodetect hardware, unless you ask it to. |
| 01:38.23 | benha | well im trying to make a debian server....what is the best iso to use...either netinstall or full iso |
| 01:38.36 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Ahhh I missed that one. Only say the second thing which was right |
| 01:38.40 | benha | or should i make it auto detect instead |
| 01:38.44 | mwilson | A "server"? What kind of "server"? |
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| 01:39.00 | benha | web or mail.... most likely |
| 01:39.08 | abrotman | sarge has no security updates |
| 01:39.09 | PerfDave | It doesn't matter which ISO you use to install |
| 01:39.24 | mwilson | "or"? You want to build a "server", but you don't know what you want it to do? |
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| 01:39.36 | benha | i know what i want it to do |
| 01:39.39 | benha | stop bashing me |
| 01:39.40 | petemc | benha:use the sarge installer |
| 01:39.41 | abrotman | so tell us |
| 01:39.48 | abrotman | petemc: for an external server? |
| 01:39.50 | benha | i said a web or mail server |
| 01:40.02 | mwilson | There's that "or" again. |
| 01:40.20 | petemc | abrotman: huh? |
| 01:40.26 | benha | ok both |
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| 01:40.37 | scarynetworkguy | pauliukas: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/utils/twin ands Links2 is just a very lightweight browser google should hook you up with that |
| 01:40.42 | vpalle | im trying to get my webcam installed.. im using ov511 drivers from alpha.dyndns.org .. but when i do modprobe ov511 i get: FATAL: Error inserting ov511 ... |
| 01:40.43 | plangent | mwilson: You "quotation marks" are "superfluous." |
| 01:40.45 | benha | mwilson you are the most stuck up newbie basher i have ever sean |
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| 01:40.47 | benha | seen |
| 01:40.49 | mwilson | petemc: He's questioning your recommendation to use testing on a production box. |
| 01:40.50 | JHGJH | sex |
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| 01:40.56 | JHGJH | sex |
| 01:41.06 | vpalle | [#debian] t when i do modprobe ov511 i get: FATAL: Error inserting ov511 ... ov511: Unknown symbol i2c_del_adapter ?? |
| 01:41.06 | pauliukas | scarynetworkguy: But I still need X, right? |
| 01:41.07 | PerfDave | benha: You might find it easier to use Sarge, the nearly-completed new release of Debian, which has better hardware detection. However, it has no security updates at present, so there is a security risk involved in doing this. |
| 01:41.11 | abrotman | petemc: would you use sarge on an external server without knowing what you are doing? |
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| 01:41.29 | scarynetworkguy | pauliukas: no no you don't go read about twin |
| 01:41.32 | benha | im thiking of just using libranet to get started |
| 01:41.33 | benha | :) |
| 01:41.38 | benha | and do a minimal |
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| 01:41.43 | benha | and apt-get install ssh |
| 01:41.44 | benha | or something |
| 01:41.48 | mwilson | Don't you have to steal Libranet? |
| 01:41.49 | benha | and admin it from my xp box |
| 01:41.52 | pauliukas | scarynetworkguy: Sweeeet. Thank you very much |
| 01:41.52 | benha | no |
| 01:41.55 | PerfDave | benha: Don't expect any help from #debian if you install Libranet and not Debian. |
| 01:42.00 | benha | http://www.debianworld.net/pub/mirror/libranet/ |
| 01:42.00 | abrotman | mwilson: yes |
| 01:42.02 | useruser | what has the xine-ui package become in sid? I'm looking for the xine-check script |
| 01:42.06 | benha | libranet is debian based! |
| 01:42.09 | petemc | abrotman: i try not to do anything w/out knowing what im doing, all my servers run testing |
| 01:42.17 | abrotman | !debian based |
| 01:42.17 | dpkg | debian based is, like, Knoppix, Libranet, Corel/Xandros, Stormix, Progeny, Lindows, DamnSmallLinux, Xebian, Ubuntu, and so on are *not* Debian. Just because something's "based on" Debian doesn't mean we can support it. You'll get a Debian answer, and if it doesn't work, you're out of luck. |
| 01:42.24 | abrotman | benha: ^^ |
| 01:42.29 | petemc | abrotman: the sarge installer can install to woody |
| 01:42.31 | mwilson | abrotman: I thought it was. |
| 01:42.32 | abrotman | petemc: but if you didn't |
| 01:42.40 | abrotman | mwilson: last i knew anyways |
| 01:43.02 | petemc | abrotman: if i idnt id be in another line of work |
| 01:43.07 | petemc | +d |
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| 01:43.14 | benha | to me debian is debian |
| 01:43.23 | abrotman | that's right .. debian is debian |
| 01:43.29 | abrotman | knoppix isn't debian .. libranet isn't debian |
| 01:43.31 | abrotman | debian is debian |
| 01:43.33 | mwilson | benha: And Libranet, therefore, isn't Debian. |
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| 01:43.49 | intero | hello i am using linux and i am using some libs (PVM) which have a header i have to include. the problem is that i have to specify the absolute path to the header in order it to be included, while it shold be globally visible. how can i cahnge that? (same with pvmlib3.a, when i compile) |
| 01:44.02 | benha | its based on debian to a point where almost any question i ask will beable to be answered by the "debian fanatics" |
| 01:44.15 | mwilson | benha: Except that it's not, of course. |
| 01:44.17 | PerfDave | benha: Uhm, no. |
| 01:44.21 | useruser | is there a package providing the functionality of xine-dvdnav in sid? |
| 01:44.26 | abrotman | benha: until they find out how you installed debian . then they will shun you :) |
| 01:44.37 | abrotman | !find xine-dvdnav |
| 01:44.40 | PerfDave | benha: If you put a Ford engine in a Honda, do you go to a Ford mechanic for help with your steering wheel? |
| 01:44.45 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'xine-dvdnav' returned no results. |
| 01:44.50 | scarynetworkguy | benha: no no it is not. Telling us it is will not change that fact. It also will not change the fact that we will know *and* that we will yell at you about it. We are just that good. |
| 01:44.56 | benha | hmm... it uses apt-get...so does debian....it uses the same commands for shutdown, logoff, and such...sounds like debian to me |
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| 01:44.57 | plangent | !debbootstrap |
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| 01:45.12 | benha | im talking commands |
| 01:45.13 | abrotman | oh god |
| 01:45.14 | mwilson | benha: Lots of things use apt-get. |
| 01:45.15 | abrotman | not again |
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| 01:45.17 | petemc | benha: fedore uses apt-get |
| 01:45.20 | PerfDave | benha: Fedora Core 2 uses apt-get, and the same commands for shutdown, logoff and such, that DOESN'T MAKE IT DEBIAN. |
| 01:45.21 | abrotman | fedora |
| 01:45.21 | benha | yes i understand |
| 01:45.32 | scarynetworkguy | benha: does it have policy? |
| 01:45.43 | scarynetworkguy | !policy |
| 01:45.43 | dpkg | policy is, like, available at http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/, the manual that describes how debian packages should and must interact with the debian system. see best practices |
| 01:45.44 | benha | but i mostly need help with commands which will be the same as "regular" debian |
| 01:45.55 | PerfDave | benha: Really, if you install something that isn't Debian, such as Libranet, you'll have to go to Libranet support channels for support, not here. |
| 01:46.04 | PerfDave | benha: So just install Debian :) |
| 01:46.28 | draevil | I'm having a fair bit of trouble trying to get ip masquerading going on a debian server - i've installed the package "ipmasq" and all seems to be well - but if i set the ip of the server as the gateway, I can't connect to the net through it |
| 01:46.39 | draevil | any suggestions? |
| 01:46.40 | benha | i can change my nickname and come in and ask for commands but i wont because you all are so stuckup and your all bitches |
| 01:47.01 | PerfDave | draevil: Have you enabled ip forwarding on the gateway? |
| 01:47.11 | mwilson | I've never understood why calling someone female is an insult. |
| 01:47.14 | snoke | is there any browser base direct connect client like mldonkey is fo edonkey? |
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| 01:47.36 | PerfDave | snoke: Does mldonkey not support direct connect? |
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| 01:47.49 | draevil | PerfDave: yeah, I echoed 1 to /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward |
| 01:47.58 | draevil | PerfDave: though I probably missed doing something :) |
| 01:48.03 | snoke | PerfDave: yes it's does but its seems not work wery well |
| 01:48.05 | scarynetworkguy | mwilson: I'm guesing that is because you have never been a fucktard |
| 01:48.17 | PerfDave | snoke: try "apt-cache search direct connect" or something |
| 01:48.28 | PerfDave | draevil: Can you ping the gateway from the client? |
| 01:48.43 | ocran | I have a cron job via crontab that e-mails me the entire output of the command, which is huge, I would rahter just have the errors sent instead, any solutions? |
| 01:48.44 | scarynetworkguy | draevil: to start with stop guessing install tcpdump run it on both interfaces. That will tell you what is going on and then fix the problem |
| 01:49.08 | scarynetworkguy | that could have used a handful of commas |
| 01:49.16 | PerfDave | ocran: DOes the command have a --quiet option or similar? Check its manpage. Otherwise, divert the output of the command to /dev/null |
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| 01:49.18 | mwilson | scarynetworkguy: I always figured it was from hyper-sexed, over-sensitive males, that epithets like "gay", or "bitch" came to actually BE epithets. |
| 01:49.32 | draevil | PerfDave: actually, just sitting down and testing some stuff - I can ping IPs through the gateway but I can't resolve names through it |
| 01:49.46 | mwilson | scarynetworkguy: I'm male, but I don't see any reason why a purely descriptive term would be an insult. |
| 01:49.49 | draevil | PerfDave: e.g. I can ping google.com's IP but not google.com :) |
| 01:50.05 | scarynetworkguy | mwilson: yeah, that would be a subset, a large, subset of fucktard so we pretty much agree. |
| 01:50.08 | PerfDave | draevil: Are the client's DNS servers set up properly? Can you ping (or better, traceroute) the DNS server? |
| 01:50.19 | sjtu | How to get many lines without be modified in emacs-wiki, <nowiki> </nowiki> just work short words? |
| 01:50.23 | scarynetworkguy | mwilson: as am I and neither do I |
| 01:50.47 | mwilson | draevil: Did you actually bother to provide for name resolution on the clients? |
| 01:51.05 | ocran | PerfDave, the command is cp, but there is no quiet option that I know of |
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| 01:51.34 | mbirkis | how do i stop syslog, logging to my shell?? |
| 01:51.38 | abrotman | !punish squirrelclaw |
| 01:51.48 | directhex_ | mbirkis, edit /etc/syslog.conf |
| 01:51.59 | mbirkis | directhex_: i did... it didn't work |
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| 01:52.09 | directhex_ | mbirkis, and you restarted syslogd? |
| 01:52.29 | mbirkis | directhex_: i think so... is the service called sysklogd? |
| 01:52.37 | lec | hey, any ideas why amavisd-new would be failing on startup with an error about 2 missing perl modules? I installed the perl packages, and used cpan, and they're def. installed |
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| 01:53.06 | directhex_ | mbirkis, probably. my syslog experience is for solaris 9 and redhat 7.2 |
| 01:53.06 | draevil | PerfDave: ah, I think I was giving the wrong DNS servers out through dhcp which might explain something :) |
| 01:53.18 | draevil | mwilson: there's no need to be insulting - I'm new to this. |
| 01:53.22 | Xylene | would it be possible to cluster 2 old pos boxes i have to have them run folding@home? |
| 01:53.43 | PerfDave | man cp |
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| 01:54.04 | jcook2 | anyone know if there are any issues with postfix/saslautd ?(testing) |
| 01:54.21 | sussudio | !tell jcook2 about bts |
| 01:54.39 | jcook2 | sussudio: i take that as a no |
| 01:54.52 | Fluten | if i report a bug using bugreport, are they fixed in the debian tree, or the source tree of the project? |
| 01:54.56 | sussudio | jcook2: FOAD |
| 01:55.01 | Fluten | vs reporting it directly to the project's site |
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| 01:55.41 | lec | i did check the bug tracking system |
| 01:55.52 | lec | 'fails to load' isn't that useful a description :/ |
| 01:55.56 | abrotman | Fluten: depends |
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| 01:56.12 | ocran | PerfDave: I am stupid, That for the help. |
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| 01:56.22 | PerfDave | ocran: No worries :) |
| 01:56.52 | mwilson | damn, *another* new version of dbext |
| 01:56.53 | Without-Nickname | how to get MAIL client checking everytime if a mail is received ? |
| 01:56.57 | ocran | PerfDave I am worried, I failed to notice that I had a -v in the command! |
| 01:57.08 | draevil | PerfDave: thanks for the help :) |
| 01:57.32 | petemc | Without-Nickname: depends on the client, with mutt, use mailboxes |
| 01:57.39 | scarynetworkguy | Without-Nickname: ask a question that makes sense |
| 01:57.42 | PerfDave | draevil: No worries |
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| 01:58.18 | Without-Nickname | I am asking about MAIL, the default client : how to get him warning me (on the shell) when a mail is received ? |
| 01:58.37 | Without-Nickname | instead of checking MAIL all the time |
| 01:58.38 | scarynetworkguy | Without-Nickname: what app are you using to pop your mail with? |
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| 01:58.54 | Without-Nickname | scarynetworkguy: none... the term |
| 01:59.02 | petemc | uh |
| 01:59.11 | Without-Nickname | don't tell me you don't know the mail command ??? |
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| 01:59.25 | petemc | Without-Nickname: use mutt |
| 01:59.29 | Without-Nickname | type "mail" in your shell and you will understand me :) |
| 01:59.30 | abrotman | Without-Nickname: you want it to tell you if you hit enter? |
| 01:59.39 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: oh my god .. try it |
| 01:59.43 | abrotman | it's awesome..... |
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| 02:00.16 | Without-Nickname | I am just asking if the mail client can warn me when a mail is received (like at login) |
| 02:00.32 | Without-Nickname | so I don't have to check it everytime |
| 02:00.39 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: haha |
| 02:00.45 | Fluten | but scrolling through the viruses gets to be annoying |
| 02:00.51 | abrotman | Without-Nickname: tried 'from' ? |
| 02:00.57 | jetscreamer | yeah there's a way |
| 02:01.02 | abrotman | elmtools? |
| 02:01.12 | Without-Nickname | ... |
| 02:01.12 | petemc | Without-Nickname: that feature is there by default |
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| 02:01.35 | PerfDave | Without-Nickname: Look at the command "biff" |
| 02:01.38 | Without-Nickname | petemc: at login, yes, but when not using mail, no |
| 02:02.10 | petemc | Without-Nickname: use mutt, and add the mailboxes to the mailboxes stanza in ~/.muttrc, as i said |
| 02:02.24 | scarynetworkguy | 4bR0tm4n tH4t'5 th3 c00l35T th1ng 1'v3 3v3R 533n 4Nd 50 v3Ry l33t |
| 02:02.32 | Without-Nickname | petemc: ok thanks |
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| 02:03.07 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: m4i1? |
| 02:03.19 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: yes |
| 02:03.42 | abrotman | it ru13z!! |
| 02:03.51 | doubleh1 | dondelelcaro: are you op ? if not, who is ? |
| 02:04.33 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: yes yes it does |
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| 02:05.34 | doubleh1 | I have ACPI working fine on 2.4.25(home made) and 2.6.8(Debian), but using 2.4.27(debian), there is no /proc/acpi subdir ; whats wrong ? |
| 02:06.02 | doubleh1 | !PCMCIA |
| 02:06.02 | dpkg | rumour has it, pcmcia is (Personal Computer Memory Card International Association) Aside from winning the award for being the longest and most-annoying-to-pronounce technology acronym, PCMCIA is a credit card-sized interface card standard. PCMCIA cards are most commonly found in notebook computers. You'll usually find two slots on newer models. Two small slots can hold two Type I or II cards or one Type III card. Type III cards are usually mini hard drives. Type I or |
| 02:06.02 | dpkg | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:06.30 | abrotman | !qotd0 |
| 02:06.30 | dpkg | hmm... qotd68 is <debianstarfish> can i get to the internet from here? |
| 02:06.30 | Sebulba02 | wow |
| 02:06.41 | simonrvn | O_O |
| 02:06.55 | scarynetworkguy | !qotd11 |
| 02:06.56 | dpkg | <scarynetworkguy> yea any book that has the phrase 'Pig-fisting' in it is gonna be good |
| 02:07.07 | abrotman | !flw |
| 02:07.08 | dpkg | rumour has it, flw6 is <coredmp> umm...latest is always bettter when it comes to functionality |
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| 02:07.52 | ugly | my belly button is purple |
| 02:07.56 | simonrvn | ...and what kind of thought process makes them say it.. |
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| 02:08.08 | abrotman | !flw |
| 02:08.08 | dpkg | <daedx> what sooo bad about running x as root, im the only user of my laptop, even is my root password is in memory I change it every week, and there is nothing of interested in my laptop <daedx> it's NOT insecure <daedx> Windows run as run all the time on 99.99% of the world's users |
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| 02:08.28 | scarynetworkguy | simonrvn: I would have thought you would have gotten over that and just be to the expecting the worse from all people stage by now :) |
| 02:08.30 | abrotman | simonrvn: like that? |
| 02:08.34 | Stormfrog | Hmm... Im installing xfree and realized I need a mouse. I plugged on one in but I do not have a "/dev/mouse". How do I enable my mouse? |
| 02:08.35 | PerfDave | !flw |
| 02:08.36 | dpkg | [flw11] <krullis> I chmoded all directories in / to 777 and want to fix that |
| 02:08.40 | brock | damn, i'm on irc via gaim |
| 02:08.45 | ugly | heh |
| 02:08.49 | PerfDave | !tell Stormfrog about troubleshooting x |
| 02:08.51 | llamakc | this will be swift |
| 02:08.52 | brock | who knew that was possible |
| 02:09.04 | brock | listen, i need someone to tell me |
| 02:09.06 | llamakc | apparently alot |
| 02:09.08 | brock | what the hell is a linux? |
| 02:09.10 | simonrvn | scarynetworkguy: no, it never stops. when i think i've seen it all, the universe keeps telling me "no, you haven't". which is quite true |
| 02:09.11 | doubleh1 | Stormfrog: is it serial ps2 or USB ? |
| 02:09.17 | abrotman | PerfDave: i don't think that is going to help him |
| 02:09.17 | buu | I've got a fat32 partition mounted as a folder, but I can't chmod to it. The permissions look like rwxr--r--, and I need rwxrwxrws |
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| 02:09.27 | llamakc | i just found some baby fuzz |
| 02:09.33 | buu | The folder I mount it to has rwxrwxrwx, but once I mount the permissions change |
| 02:09.36 | brock | chicken duck bird |
| 02:09.37 | helix | jharrison: they mentioned abaco on the news :) |
| 02:09.37 | Stormfrog | doubleh1: ps2 |
| 02:09.39 | buu | Any ideas? |
| 02:09.39 | simonrvn | abrotman: yup. something like that. but the topper for today was qotd68 |
| 02:09.41 | helix | jharrison: odd timing, that |
| 02:09.43 | PerfDave | brock: http://www.linux.org/ |
| 02:09.45 | petemc | buu: you cant chmod fat |
| 02:09.46 | plangent | ntfs is read only in linux, isn't it? |
| 02:09.48 | scarynetworkguy | simonrvn: true true |
| 02:09.49 | jharrison | wwwwwwwweeeeeeeeee |
| 02:09.51 | plangent | fat |
| 02:09.52 | plangent | doh |
| 02:09.55 | helix | omg, buu is here |
| 02:09.59 | simonrvn | thin |
| 02:10.03 | doubleh1 | Stormfrog: as root: ln -s /dev/psaux /dev/mouse |
| 02:10.06 | Avantopia | anyone here using external maxtor drives with usb/firewire for storing information with gentoo? I can only access the first drive that is connected to my machine via usb2 and not the other drives that are connected to the first... ? |
| 02:10.07 | jharrison | helix: we are on the news :) |
| 02:10.14 | brock | i have some gmail invites for anyone who wants them |
| 02:10.17 | helix | jharrison: they were showing abaco during the eye of the storm |
| 02:10.19 | helix | kinda eerie |
| 02:10.22 | sussudio | !topicbadger brock |
| 02:10.23 | dpkg | /topic/topic/topic/topic/topic/topic*READ IT*READ IT*/topic/topic/topic/topic/topic/topic/topic*a shaaame it's a shaaame that brock didn't read the*/topic/topic/topic/topic... |
| 02:10.24 | jharrison | brock: topic |
| 02:10.24 | simonrvn | @topicsmite brock |
| 02:10.25 | ravenbird | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon brock. And all the people marvelled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 02:10.30 | PerfDave | Avantopia: I expect there are more Gentoo users on #gentoo than on #debian :) |
| 02:10.35 | llamakc | everyone has gmail invites. they are like the clap. want some? |
| 02:10.36 | brock | just email me off list |
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| 02:10.38 | doubleh1 | I have ACPI working fine on 2.4.25(home made) and 2.6.8(Debian), but using 2.4.27(debian), there is no /proc/acpi subdir ; whats wrong ? |
| 02:10.39 | llamakc | fap fap fap |
| 02:10.43 | helix | PerfDave: there are covert gentoo spies here |
| 02:10.43 | plangent | !gmail smite |
| 02:10.50 | doubleh1 | How to get ALSA driver with 2.4.27(debina) ? |
| 02:10.52 | jharrison | helix: yeah |
| 02:10.56 | plangent | There needs to be one of those. |
| 02:10.57 | brock | gmail is the roxxors |
| 02:10.59 | PerfDave | helix: They're not exactly covert. |
| 02:11.02 | jharrison | helix: so you are going to ride this one out? |
| 02:11.09 | Avantopia | anyone here using external maxtor drives with usb/firewire for storing information with debian? I can only access the first drive that is connected to my machine via usb2 and not the other drives that are connected to the first... ? |
| 02:11.09 | helix | jharrison: yeah, it's too late to leave |
| 02:11.09 | llamakc | you got covert roxxored smited |
| 02:11.10 | Avantopia | heh |
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| 02:11.16 | scarynetworkguy | PerfDave: no I think we have most of them here for some reasn |
| 02:11.19 | buu | Anyone know how to fix this mount problem? |
| 02:11.19 | llamakc | i'm gonna ride that big thing out. |
| 02:11.20 | llamakc | ok |
| 02:11.26 | brock | dont smite the roxxor |
| 02:11.26 | llamakc | you said so not me |
| 02:11.26 | simonrvn | "email me off list"? |
| 02:11.32 | jharrison | helix: do you have your supplies? |
| 02:11.35 | architec | just installed sarge and tried to install a program in desktop. Went to root and personal terminal and typed "Desktop/"filename"" and got permission "denied" |
| 02:11.38 | helix | jharrison: yes |
| 02:11.42 | PerfDave | buu: Mount permissions are sent by the mount command (or in fstab), not by the permissions on the mountpoint *before* mounting. |
| 02:11.45 | brock | off list, just throw me an email |
| 02:11.53 | simonrvn | scarynetworkguy, abrotman: just spotted another one |
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| 02:11.54 | brock | i gotta get. got boxing on hbo in like 4 minutes |
| 02:11.55 | helix | brock: this isn't a list |
| 02:11.56 | jharrison | helix: got plenty of water, food, batteries, etc...? |
| 02:12.00 | petemc | architec: you did what? |
| 02:12.00 | PerfDave | brock: I can't e-mail you offlist, I don't have a gmail invite. |
| 02:12.02 | helix | jharrison: yep |
| 02:12.07 | llamakc | don't humor him please |
| 02:12.12 | brock | good one |
| 02:12.15 | doubleh1 | buu: after mounting, permissions always chages ! see man mount |
| 02:12.17 | scarynetworkguy | simonrvn: yep |
| 02:12.17 | mbirkis | how do i stop debian logging in my shell??? |
| 02:12.18 | jharrison | helix: got your house all battened down? |
| 02:12.21 | brock | just send me an emamil offlist and i'll get you one |
| 02:12.25 | helix | jharrison: err, well, no |
| 02:12.28 | abrotman | simonrvn: ? |
| 02:12.29 | buu | doubleh1: We're reading man mount. Any idea how to fix it? |
| 02:12.31 | llamakc | you said battened |
| 02:12.33 | jharrison | helix: dont delay |
| 02:12.33 | helix | brock: go away. please. |
| 02:12.38 | simonrvn | brock: are you freaking braindead? this isn't a list |
| 02:12.43 | helix | jharrison: well, it's already raining and windy here |
| 02:12.45 | jharrison | helix: you will have this storm tomorrow or so |
| 02:12.48 | llamakc | helix hes joking around. don't be such a fucking taint |
| 02:12.52 | jharrison | helix: yeah so? |
| 02:12.53 | helix | jharrison: yeah, tomorrow night |
| 02:13.01 | brock | he's not a fucking taint, he's a fucking numbtard |
| 02:13.04 | helix | llamakc: that is my obligatory warn-before-banning |
| 02:13.07 | llamakc | apt-get install doh |
| 02:13.11 | llamakc | thanks |
| 02:13.14 | llamakc | bye |
| 02:13.17 | brock | you've been warned |
| 02:13.17 | jharrison | helix: no time like the present |
| 02:13.19 | doubleh1 | buu: if you want your user to read/write fat32, then the user has to mount the part; to do so, you must edit first /etc/fstab |
| 02:13.24 | jharrison | helix: do you have shutters? |
| 02:13.28 | *** mode/#debian [+o helix] by ChanServ |
| 02:13.28 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@dsl020011.dyndsl.nettally.com] by helix |
| 02:13.28 | *** part/#debian brock (~brock@dsl020011.dyndsl.nettally.com) |
| 02:13.28 | *** mode/#debian [-o helix] by helix |
| 02:13.46 | buu | doubleh1: Oh the user has to mount it? Thats the only way? |
| 02:13.47 | llamakc | you forgot me dumbass |
| 02:13.48 | helix | jharrison: no |
| 02:13.50 | simonrvn | teh auto_bleh is teh r0xx0r |
| 02:13.53 | helix | llamakc: ah, sorry |
| 02:13.55 | doubleh1 | any uses 2.4.7-1-? from debian build ? |
| 02:13.55 | *** mode/#debian [+o helix] by ChanServ |
| 02:13.55 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@66-188-69-181.cpe.ga.charter.com] by helix |
| 02:13.55 | *** part/#debian llamakc (~ken@66-188-69-181.cpe.ga.charter.com) |
| 02:13.58 | *** mode/#debian [-o helix] by helix |
| 02:14.01 | netrider | :) |
| 02:14.02 | jharrison | oh that sucks |
| 02:14.02 | id10t | helix - where are you? |
| 02:14.12 | helix | id10t: NE florida |
| 02:14.20 | jharrison | helix: thats why you arent battened down? |
| 02:14.23 | MerlinCorey | helix: field hunter..? |
| 02:14.23 | id10t | helix i'm in high springs/alachua |
| 02:14.25 | helix | jharrison: yeah |
| 02:14.28 | helix | id10t: eek |
| 02:14.35 | doubleh1 | buu: unless mount can use an other user ; for me, I got a 'su -c "mount /dev/win" user' in inittab |
| 02:14.40 | jharrison | helix: do you ahve boards to nail over the windows? |
| 02:14.47 | helix | jharrison: yeah, we do |
| 02:14.49 | jharrison | helix: you seriously should batten down |
| 02:14.56 | helix | jharrison: ok, I get it :) |
| 02:15.02 | jharrison | ok |
| 02:15.02 | id10t | helix frances fscked my mom's place up... my house came thru fine though... expect no probs with this one though |
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| 02:15.07 | scarynetworkguy | isn't buu a pig pink guy with a diaper from some really bad anime? |
| 02:15.23 | simonrvn | petemc: yummy |
| 02:15.25 | jharrison | petemc: hashish? |
| 02:15.30 | petemc | yeah |
| 02:15.32 | netrider | you don't need to be evacuated? :/ |
| 02:15.37 | helix | id10t: we didn't have much damage here (at my house) |
| 02:15.39 | freemo | how does everyone here feel about gentoo (im thinking of trying it out) |
| 02:15.40 | simonrvn | i can smell it from here :P |
| 02:15.42 | jharrison | petemc: how are you making it |
| 02:15.47 | helix | id10t: but a lot of jacksonville was without power for a week or so |
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| 02:15.57 | toymachine | is x.org in debian? |
| 02:16.01 | simonrvn | no |
| 02:16.03 | doubleh1 | freemo: /join #gentoo |
| 02:16.05 | helix | toymachine: /msg dpkg xorg |
| 02:16.07 | scarynetworkguy | !gentoosmite freemo |
| 02:16.08 | rares000 | scarynetworkguy, now he's uub and he's a tiny brown guy from a bad anime |
| 02:16.09 | doubleh1 | toymachine: yes |
| 02:16.10 | id10t | helix i had no power for 6 days... and i've got a 4 year old and an 8 month old |
| 02:16.16 | helix | id10t: oh man :/ |
| 02:16.18 | simonrvn | yikes |
| 02:16.29 | Fluten | ooh, 10% |
| 02:16.30 | petemc | jharrison: ice o lator |
| 02:16.30 | id10t | "daddy wishes you could watch nemo too sweetie..." |
| 02:16.35 | helix | awww |
| 02:16.38 | petemc | jharrison: http://www.yerma.org/~pete/bud/mash/ |
| 02:16.43 | simonrvn | aaaw :( |
| 02:16.45 | petemc | jharrison: smokey ; maryjane |
| 02:16.48 | jharrison | petemc: nice |
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| 02:16.53 | buu | scarynetworkguy: Fuck if I know |
| 02:16.57 | Fluten | maybe gentoo is just bloated to begin with |
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| 02:16.59 | helix | "nemo is swimming around in the front yard" |
| 02:17.07 | jharrison | petemc: the rastas here have a old fashioned way of doing it |
| 02:17.08 | scarynetworkguy | helix: he |
| 02:17.14 | PerfDave | freemo: Most of the Debian users here prefer Debian, but there are more Sekrit Gentoo Spies on #debian than there are Debian users. |
| 02:17.17 | petemc | jharrison: parrafin? |
| 02:17.28 | PerfDave | freemo: What do you hope to achieve by using Gentoo? |
| 02:17.36 | doubleh1 | Fluten: got AMD ? |
| 02:17.38 | toymachine | dpkg didn't tell me how to get it |
| 02:17.38 | dpkg | wish i knew, toymachine |
| 02:17.40 | jharrison | petemc: no they use a pot and boil it some way |
| 02:17.46 | Fluten | doubleh1, yes |
| 02:17.50 | helix | toymachine: that isn't what you asked |
| 02:17.52 | Stormfrog | doubleh1: But I have neither an /dev/psaux or an /dev/mouse :P |
| 02:17.54 | rares000 | instant port to your vacuum cleaner |
| 02:17.54 | simonrvn | petemc: hmm, a wee bit slow to respond. might be me though |
| 02:17.55 | helix | you asked if it was in debian |
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| 02:17.57 | doubleh1 | Fluten: got Nvidia ? |
| 02:18.00 | jharrison | petemc: they basically extract all the resin into a think tar like substance |
| 02:18.03 | toymachine | well , can i get it via apt-get |
| 02:18.06 | petemc | jharrison: fuck that, ice o lator catches the trichomes, its all good |
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| 02:18.13 | simonrvn | petemc: um user/pass? :) |
| 02:18.13 | Fluten | doubleh1, had, but it's in for warranty, so i should in a few weeks hopefully |
| 02:18.17 | jharrison | hehe |
| 02:18.24 | doubleh1 | Stormfrog: if you got no /dev/psaux, then your installation is bad |
| 02:18.33 | helix | people that can't live without drop shadows on their desktops confuse me. |
| 02:18.38 | petemc | simonrvn: smokey ; maryjane, you have to put it in twice, for some reason |
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| 02:18.44 | doubleh1 | Fluten: AMD+nvidia is known as a bad combo |
| 02:18.53 | toymachine | helix, not for the dropshadows |
| 02:18.54 | jharrison | petemc: yeah but rastas are old fashioned they know nothing of your technology. Also they have more ways to get high then you can shake a stick at |
| 02:18.57 | toymachine | because its beter |
| 02:19.02 | Fluten | doubleh1, dont see how it could be a bad combo |
| 02:19.03 | scarynetworkguy | PerfDave: so if we count the Sekrit Gentoo Spies and the Sekrit Windows Spies we have what 5 people who use Debian? |
| 02:19.04 | toymachine | *better even |
| 02:19.06 | simonrvn | grr, /me tweaks /dev/fb0 |
| 02:19.08 | doubleh1 | Fluten: otherwise, how d I have guess you got a AMD ... |
| 02:19.09 | toymachine | lol |
| 02:19.13 | petemc | jharrison: go ../ on that dir :) |
| 02:19.17 | jharrison | petemc: you ever smoked a rasta clay pipe? |
| 02:19.19 | abrotman | helix: crying mary? |
| 02:19.22 | PerfDave | scarynetworkguy: ...and they dual-boot :) |
| 02:19.27 | helix | abrotman: heh |
| 02:19.28 | scarynetworkguy | PerfDave: :D |
| 02:19.31 | freemo | PerfDave, well i hear gentoo is built to be customized to yoru hardware as close as possiblie... and i have a beast of a machine.. 4 xeons.. so ive been told to get the most out of it gentoo was the way to go |
| 02:19.39 | abrotman | helix: yeah .. pulled that reference out of my ass :) |
| 02:19.46 | petemc | jharrison: i think so, whats it called? |
| 02:19.48 | freemo | PerfDave, i have debian on this box.. my laptop.. and i like it cause its eassy and stillc ustomizable |
| 02:19.52 | helix | abrotman: well, it made sense. I'm glad I've listened to hendrix.. |
| 02:19.53 | freemo | it got it working very fast |
| 02:19.54 | Fluten | at least amd doesnt waste money with mindless tv ads |
| 02:19.56 | Stormfrog | doubleh1: yes, but thats what I was wondering... how do I get one. I had no intention of using a mouse to begin with but now it seems I need one. |
| 02:19.57 | scarynetworkguy | freemo: and I've been told that you can secure Windows |
| 02:20.06 | freemo | gentoo is hard to configure because of all te control you get |
| 02:20.11 | simonrvn | links + console framebuffer ;) |
| 02:20.13 | abrotman | helix: everyone should be glad |
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| 02:20.20 | helix | it's hard to configure because mostly fucktards use it |
| 02:20.24 | petemc | helix: did you give alais another chance? :) |
| 02:20.30 | PerfDave | freemo: It's commonly held that compiling everything from source makes things faster, but really, it doesn't make much difference (except for a few notable exceptions like libc and the kernel). You can compile any packages in Debian from source that you like. |
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| 02:20.32 | helix | petemc: heh, yes. it's still weird :) |
| 02:20.39 | jharrison | petemc: its a big clay bowl they sit on the ground with big clay rods all around it and they put like 2 pounds of herbs in it and lite the whole thing on fire and stand around it toking |
| 02:20.40 | Fluten | gentoo has lots of control |
| 02:20.46 | Fluten | so much that a single update can break something |
| 02:20.51 | helix | ok everyone shut up about gentoo |
| 02:20.54 | netrider | re |
| 02:20.55 | petemc | jharrison: nice :) , do you grow? |
| 02:20.55 | helix | no one cares |
| 02:20.59 | rares000 | gentooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
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| 02:21.03 | jharrison | petemc: they say if you arent use to it you pass out on the first toke |
| 02:21.05 | PerfDave | freemo: Depending on the options you choose, you can make things slower by compiling them from source. You can certainly make them more unstable. |
| 02:21.11 | jharrison | petemc: no I left my herbal days behind me |
| 02:21.18 | doubleh1 | Stormfrog: mknod /dev/psaux c 10 1 |
| 02:21.23 | helix | good idea |
| 02:21.27 | PerfDave | freemo: Just use Debian and apt-src / apt-build / apt-get -b source where needed :) |
| 02:21.37 | jharrison | petemc: I use to eat herbs mostly or make a liquid from it |
| 02:21.49 | jharrison | petemc: or roots wine |
| 02:21.56 | doubleh1 | Do ony one here use kernel-image-2.4.27-1 any cpu ? |
| 02:22.01 | jharrison | petemc: thats anothe rasta method |
| 02:22.05 | freemo | PerfDave, well emerge helps pick the options.. yo just tell it what your computer has.. emerge is sorta like a way to automate compiling while still giving you as much controla s youd like |
| 02:22.10 | jharrison | petemc: very powerful stuff |
| 02:22.11 | abrotman | ony? |
| 02:22.17 | helix | freemo: are you ignoring me? |
| 02:22.22 | doubleh1 | abrotman: one |
| 02:22.24 | freemo | PerfDave, i will continue to run debian on my laptoip .. but id like to compare with gentoo |
| 02:22.28 | doleyb | doubleh1: my kernel is 2.4.27 |
| 02:22.28 | freemo | helix, no sorry |
| 02:22.28 | petemc | jharrison: the hash from the ice o lator is as strong as ive ever had |
| 02:22.33 | doubleh1 | helix: God knows ^^ |
| 02:22.37 | helix | freemo: good. then stop talking about gentoo, thanks. |
| 02:22.47 | jharrison | petemc: come down here and sip some roots wine ;) |
| 02:22.57 | petemc | :) |
| 02:22.59 | doubleh1 | doleyb: do you have ACPI and ALSA working fine ? |
| 02:23.04 | freemo | helix, whatever |
| 02:23.07 | jharrison | petemc: or take a teaspoon full of the liquid I use to make |
| 02:23.40 | PerfDave | freemo: Compare all you like, but don't expect things to be much faster. |
| 02:23.41 | jharrison | petemc: take a half ounce of your finest herbs and boil it in honey and olive oil for 20 minutes and then strain the liquid off it |
| 02:23.48 | jharrison | petemc: one teaspoon and you are screwed |
| 02:23.49 | helix | PerfDave: you too :) |
| 02:24.00 | petemc | jharrison: yerma.org/~pete :) |
| 02:24.03 | petemc | shive |
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| 02:24.10 | petemc | shiva, even |
| 02:24.13 | PerfDave | helix: I was making a general point about the difference between source-compilation and binary packages, and pointing out some handy Debian utilities to compile packages from source ;) |
| 02:24.14 | spinifex | should I be able to boot from a src iso? |
| 02:24.20 | freemo | PerfDave, well thats what it is about.. compare.. see what i like.. im currently trying to "find my distro" debian is the best.. gentoo im jsut starting out on (its installing now) |
| 02:24.23 | helix | PerfDave: yes, I'm not blind. |
| 02:24.29 | helix | christ, are you people blind? |
| 02:24.34 | PerfDave | helix: You're not masturbating enough. |
| 02:24.40 | sussudio | ... |
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| 02:24.47 | doleyb | doubleh1: I don't use ACPI, but alsa is OK... but I took alsa from the src package, and compiled it here. |
| 02:24.51 | jharrison | petemc: that doesnt look like indica |
| 02:24.59 | PerfDave | spinifex: What do you mean by "a src iso"? |
| 02:25.00 | petemc | jharrison: it is |
| 02:25.13 | doubleh1 | doleyb: what is the process / pakage to install for alsa ? |
| 02:25.23 | jharrison | petemc: its very neon green for indica |
| 02:25.30 | jharrison | petemc: has a nice colour to it |
| 02:25.40 | petemc | jharrison: ive never grown salvia |
| 02:25.51 | spinifex | there were several debian isos on the site for dl, and I got the src one. It doesn't boot though-- was I supposed to get the other, or is it a problem with my burning software (used alchohol 120) |
| 02:25.57 | architec | Im trying to install a program but when enter it's address I get "bash: Desktop/"filename": permission denied. |
| 02:26.02 | PerfDave | spinifex: On which site? |
| 02:26.03 | doleyb | doubleh1: I installed alsa-source and alsa-utils. That put alsa-driver.tar.bz2 in /usr/src, which I compiled. |
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| 02:26.40 | MerlinCorey | freemo: trying to make helix all cuddly is not going to help you. |
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| 02:26.53 | spinifex | http://www.phy.olemiss.edu/debian-cd/ |
| 02:27.02 | freemo | MerlinCorey, why not.. niceness always helps |
| 02:27.50 | PerfDave | spinifex: Those aren't official Debian ISOs, I have no idea what they *should* do, I'm afraid. |
| 02:27.51 | petemc | or should i say sativa |
| 02:27.54 | freemo | MerlinCorey, no its an hawain woodrose |
| 02:28.00 | freemo | (eat the seeds) |
| 02:28.04 | spinifex | not official? they're linked to from the debian site |
| 02:28.11 | PerfDave | spinifex: Oh, are they? My bad then ;) |
| 02:28.13 | spinifex | http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ |
| 02:28.15 | MerlinCorey | freemo: got any salvia on you, too..? |
| 02:28.17 | PerfDave | spinifex: What does the Installation Manual say? |
| 02:28.22 | doubleh1 | Any one using ACPI on kernel-image-2.4.27 ? |
| 02:28.24 | spinifex | which manual? |
| 02:28.31 | freemo | MerlinCorey, that stuff is intense.. i had the 15x extract |
| 02:28.37 | freemo | woooooaaaaa man look out |
| 02:28.49 | MerlinCorey | freemo: I want to get the tincture, but it's sold out everywhere I look :( |
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| 02:29.08 | PerfDave | spinifex: The FAQ linked to from the netinst page has this: http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#source-cd |
| 02:29.08 | freemo | MerlinCorey, i can make it :) |
| 02:29.22 | MerlinCorey | freemo: so can I :) |
| 02:29.34 | freemo | MerlinCorey, then make it! |
| 02:29.41 | MerlinCorey | freemo: too much work :( |
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| 02:29.44 | spinifex | is it possible to install from a source CD? |
| 02:30.04 | PerfDave | spinifex: See also http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#bootable |
| 02:30.15 | jharrison | petemc: if you ever go to jamacia ask for some lambsbread |
| 02:30.24 | doubleh1 | spinifex: why would a src CD have a bootable zone ? |
| 02:30.27 | freemo | MerlinCorey, bah.. your a pot head ... salvia is no pot head high :) |
| 02:30.41 | PerfDave | spinifex: It seems that the source CD is not bootable, yes. Only architecture-specific CDs are bootable, because they contain the booting code for their specific architecture. |
| 02:31.04 | freemo | MerlinCorey, salvia isnt for the guy looking to be high.. its closer to dmt |
| 02:31.08 | freemo | esp the tinc |
| 02:31.13 | jharrison | petemc: make that jamaica |
| 02:31.21 | spinifex | ok then. I'll try again. |
| 02:31.25 | PerfDave | spinifex: You'll also note that, depsite being linked from the debian.org site, they're linked under a big heading saying 'Unofficial net install images for the "stable" release' which suggests that they may be unofficial :) |
| 02:31.27 | MerlinCorey | freemo: you know nothing about me, don't make assumptions... I'm a fucking mystic... |
| 02:31.52 | PerfDave | MerlinCorey: Well, I'm Elvis. |
| 02:31.54 | freemo | MerlinCorey, im just messing for one.. and so am i so its all good |
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| 02:31.59 | abrotman | PerfDave: i'm jfk |
| 02:32.05 | DUT | Hello friends! |
| 02:32.08 | PerfDave | abrotman: Let's go hunt mummies! |
| 02:32.09 | DUT | I have a file 2MB and I want to make two zip archives by 1MB each. How would I do it? What would I do to make splitting? What you reccomend? |
| 02:32.13 | spinifex | well uh, what's better then, the "testing" release? |
| 02:32.14 | DUT | And thank you! |
| 02:32.19 | PerfDave | DUT: "split" |
| 02:32.22 | abrotman | PerfDave: wanna have tea with jim morrison? |
| 02:32.27 | PerfDave | spinifex: Better than what? |
| 02:32.32 | doubleh1 | DUT: man split, man tar |
| 02:32.36 | spinifex | than the unofficial stable one |
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| 02:32.51 | spinifex | or do you suggest I have them mail me some cds? |
| 02:32.54 | scarynetworkguy | PerfDave: I have a really nice Mossberg. Can I go on the mummie hunt? |
| 02:32.56 | doleyb | DUT: man zipsplit |
| 02:32.57 | PerfDave | spinifex: You could use the first full CD to boot from. Or just use the unofficial netinst, but use the binary one :) |
| 02:33.19 | spinifex | ok then. |
| 02:33.24 | PerfDave | spinifex: I have paid for Debian DVDs in the past, they can make installing a pleasure, or just be used to populate an apt-proxy at the end of a slow connection. |
| 02:33.38 | DUT | doubleh1 then HOW would I join them? |
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| 02:33.50 | simonrvn | petemc, jharrison: do you know of any ethnobotanical or medicinal uses? like where i could find accounts and such of world wide uses of herb? be cool if it where in one place. |
| 02:34.02 | doubleh1 | DUT: if used split, then use cat >> |
| 02:34.04 | PerfDave | DUT: Use "cat" to concatenate |
| 02:34.14 | DUT | <doleyb> DUT: man zipsplit!!! I tried ERROR |
| 02:34.38 | simonrvn | petemc: oh what's that purple stuff in that bowl? |
| 02:34.41 | petemc | simonrvn: you're from canada? theres lots of pro legalisation literature eminates from thee |
| 02:34.45 | petemc | +r |
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| 02:34.49 | doubleh1 | DUT: cat arch1 > file; cat arch2 >> file |
| 02:35.07 | petemc | simonrvn: which? |
| 02:35.07 | simonrvn | petemc: yes i am. hmm |
| 02:35.09 | Angelo | Is sarge going to have amd64 support when it is released? |
| 02:35.11 | doleyb | DUT: Do you actually have "zip" package installed? zipsplit comes with zip. |
| 02:35.15 | simonrvn | ~/pete/ |
| 02:35.36 | simonrvn | good shot of it in 9.html |
| 02:35.45 | PerfDave | doubleh1: Or "cat arch1 arch2 > file" :) |
| 02:35.48 | abrotman | doubleh1: wtf is that ? |
| 02:35.52 | simonrvn | looks like rose petals |
| 02:35.53 | abrotman | doubleh1: what PerfDave said :) |
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| 02:36.26 | sobersabre | so ... is sarge about to be released ? |
| 02:36.28 | petemc | simonrvn: ahh, lots of stuff, poppy seeds, cinnamon, ginger, rose petals, etc |
| 02:36.30 | DUT | doleyb: zipsplit filename.pdf |
| 02:36.39 | doubleh1 | abrotman: I dont says it is optimezed; I say it works ^^ |
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| 02:36.42 | simonrvn | petemc: ok |
| 02:37.33 | sobersabre | guys. i want to get a laptop/notebook ... and a sarge on it. how low can i get ? |
| 02:37.43 | sobersabre | i mean hw-wise .. |
| 02:38.01 | PerfDave | sobersabre: The hardware requirements for Sarge will probably be in the Installation Manual? |
| 02:38.18 | abrotman | sobersabre: you mean a new laptop? |
| 02:38.36 | sobersabre | abrotman, maybe a refurbished maybe new. |
| 02:38.59 | Stormfrog | how can it be so hard to make a version of x that looks upp all settings by itself... even the guys at M$ can do that, since Windows 1.0 :P |
| 02:39.03 | abrotman | sobersabre: basically . if it's newer than like 10 years old ... you should be fine |
| 02:39.26 | abrotman | Stormfrog: obviously you didn't use windows less than 95 |
| 02:39.35 | doleyb | Stormfrog: wrong, not even windows 3 could do that. Windows 1 sure couldn't! |
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| 02:39.51 | abrotman | windows 1 wasn't really a gui .. it was more like dosshell on crack |
| 02:40.05 | doleyb | Stormfrog: Even windows95 setup the screen wrong by itself. |
| 02:40.14 | Stormfrog | heh... okay you might be correct, I started at 3.11 :) |
| 02:40.41 | abrotman | and that had no hardware detection |
| 02:40.46 | abrotman | and god forbid you pick the wrong one |
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| 02:41.07 | abrotman | hehe .. the windows 3.11 sound subsystem was crap .. complete crap |
| 02:41.12 | Stormfrog | abrotman: "dosshell on crack" :D |
| 02:41.19 | PerfDave | I remember the GEM Desktop :) |
| 02:41.22 | abrotman | sobersabre: don't do that |
| 02:41.31 | abrotman | sobersabre: talk here .. don't /msg me |
| 02:41.55 | PerfDave | sobersabre: You may want to check out http://www.linux-laptop.net/ to see which models have good Linux support. |
| 02:42.07 | abrotman | sobersabre: different people say different htings . i hvae a TP G40 .. it works great |
| 02:42.09 | sobersabre | no prob. are there any vendors of laptops to avoid of ? [bios/acpi/apm issues] ? |
| 02:42.13 | PerfDave | sobersabre: /msg dpkg laptop |
| 02:42.39 | abrotman | sobersabre: many have small issues .. but check that linux-laptop.net |
| 02:42.56 | sobersabre | ok. thanks, debian people. |
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| 02:43.56 | Stormfrog | The odd thing is that I managed to set up XFree86 on a really old laptop (Dell P75). But my PII/GeForce2 server refuses to have anything at all to do with xfree... |
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| 02:44.17 | adar | I need some help with mysql. My phpwiki doesn't work anymore, it hangs when I access it through apache, and I'm guessing its a mysql error because when I do a "select * from phpwiki.page" it starts spitting out a ton of stuff then hangs eventually |
| 02:44.27 | abrotman | Stormfrog: that's cause it's a server |
| 02:44.30 | adar | this is on a computer I access through ssh, so I killed my connection and reconnected |
| 02:44.33 | ix | tail your logs adar. |
| 02:44.44 | adar | ix: my logs have nothing, mysql.err and mysql.log are both empty |
| 02:44.49 | Stormfrog | abrotman: it used to my my win98 game-puter |
| 02:44.51 | mick_laptop | how do i get something into the debian repository? |
| 02:44.53 | adar | ix: I received some user mail about logrotate failing |
| 02:44.54 | Stormfrog | -my |
| 02:44.59 | mick_laptop | like convince them to add it |
| 02:45.01 | abrotman | servers shouldn't run X |
| 02:45.01 | ix | i mean /var/log/apache/blahblah.log etc,. and make sure mysql works properly from cmdline, etc. |
| 02:45.02 | adar | ix: which unfortunately I read then deleted |
| 02:45.14 | ix | i dont think logrotate failing is the issue.. |
| 02:45.29 | NoUse | hey everyone, I'm having a problem with the samba 3.0.7-1 out of sarge, when my clients go to pull a file down, nothing happens and explorer locks up, I have done some digging and found samba 3.0.7 from other distros works fine with the same smb.conf file, anyone heard of this yet? |
| 02:45.38 | adar | ix: access.log and error.log both show proper access to the directory |
| 02:45.40 | Stormfrog | abrotman: true, but in this case I am setting upp freevo to run as mediaserver aswell... |
| 02:45.44 | Stormfrog | as an |
| 02:45.44 | dondelelcaro | doubleh1: ? |
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| 02:45.54 | PerfDave | adar: Has somebody defaced your wiki by dumping tons of crap on the frontpage? |
| 02:45.57 | mick_laptop | because of the storm (i'm in FL) - i g/g |
| 02:46.00 | mick_laptop | bye |
| 02:46.03 | adar | perfdave: I have no idea, since I can't even load it |
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| 02:46.05 | ix | nouse: a couple months ago samba wasnt working right till i deleted the 'printer' entries in smb.conf...but that was more like 3.0.4 |
| 02:46.07 | PerfDave | NoUse: Anything in the BTS? |
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| 02:46.20 | ix | and on powerpc sid, so problems would be expected .. |
| 02:46.24 | adar | perfdave: it hangs when I try to access the page, and mysql command line client hangs when I "select * from phpwiki.page" |
| 02:46.41 | adar | perfdave: mysqlcheck -A comes out OK on every table though |
| 02:46.49 | PerfDave | adar: Does it hang, or just have too much data to deal with? Try "SELECT COUNT(*) FROM phpwiki.page" instead? |
| 02:46.59 | adar | perfdave: ok will try |
| 02:47.10 | abrotman | Stormfrog: and freevo requires X? |
| 02:47.18 | NoUse | PerfDave, only a bug about explorer crashing out right, not exactly what I'm experiencing and it was reported against 3.0.5 |
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| 02:47.26 | adar | perfdave: that works correctly, it's just when I ask it dump the entire table that it hangs midway |
| 02:47.44 | doubleh1 | dondelelcaro: please add in the topic that PCMCIA is not included in 2.4 branch for kernel-images-*, and user shall install kernel-pcmcia-* ... I went mad because of that change ! |
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| 02:48.10 | NoUse | PerfDave, we're talking 100k jpegs here, nothing really sizable |
| 02:48.22 | adar | perfdave: so if apache is OK, and mysql is OK, why did the wiki stop working all of a sudden? |
| 02:48.24 | nichos | does anyone know the name of the software for linux, its like gamespy, lists a bunch of servers running quake, unreal, etc? |
| 02:48.53 | FieldySnuts | nichos: xqf, which uses qstat |
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| 02:49.05 | adar | perfdave: it appears the package "phpwiki" was uninstalled |
| 02:49.06 | nichos | FieldySnuts thats the one,thanks! |
| 02:49.11 | nichos | <i can never remember that> |
| 02:49.15 | adar | perfdave: leaving behind its config files and the mysql DB |
| 02:49.26 | adar | perfdave: I have no fucking clue how this happened, but I'm pissed and checking auth.log |
| 02:49.27 | dondelelcaro | doubleh1: uh, it's been that way for ever. |
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| 02:49.51 | dondelelcaro | doubleh1: feel free to add an entry to the FAQ though... |
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| 02:50.10 | adar | perfdave: and someone uninstalled apache too...WHAT! |
| 02:50.11 | Stormfrog | abrotman: yes, well... there are alternatives but I have no knowledge whatsoever about them. |
| 02:50.26 | doubleh1 | dondelelcaro: in 2.4 ? in fact, I never used debian kernel image 2.4, but in 2.6 pcmcia is included inside the kernelimage |
| 02:50.30 | adar | wow I must be going insane |
| 02:50.48 | dondelelcaro | doubleh1: in 2.6 it's included. in 2.4 it's not. It's been like that ever since 2.4 was released. |
| 02:51.13 | doleyb | adar: See if you have port 31337 open on your server, you could be hack |
| 02:51.18 | doubleh1 | dondelelcaro: by the way, do you know how to make ACPI work with 2.4.27 kernel image ? |
| 02:51.24 | adar | doleyb: will check |
| 02:51.40 | adar | doleyb: any possibility a faulty package upgrade in unstable is responsible? |
| 02:51.41 | Sandman | I'm in X + WindowMaker, and I noticed that when I have an xtightvncviewer window open, I switch to another desktop and select some text, the viewer just completely disappears! |
| 02:51.44 | dondelelcaro | doubleh1: loading the appropriate module should do the trick... but I don't use ACPI |
| 02:51.53 | Sandman | Like the app crashes or some such |
| 02:51.59 | dac29 | maybe someone can help me, I just re-installed debian (I'm not a very experienced linux user), and everything works alright except that the server disconnects ssh/samba/web connections quite often...and after a few minutes, everything works again...anyone have an idea of what is going on? any help is appreciated... |
| 02:52.06 | doubleh1 | dondelelcaro: which module ? |
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| 02:53.03 | doubleh1 | dondelelcaro: do not putting it in static is a very bad idear, because on some recent systems, the attribution of IRQs of ALL PCI cards is now done by the ACPI subsystem ... and on those machines, no ACPI means, no PCI |
| 02:53.04 | dondelelcaro | doubleh1: acpi.o or some such. modconf; should list it... |
| 02:53.31 | dondelelcaro | doubleh1: it might even be built in by default... ISTR having to use noacpi alot. |
| 02:53.48 | adar | is there some sort of log that apt keeps for package removals? |
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| 02:53.57 | dondelelcaro | adar: no. apt-get is a state machine... |
| 02:53.58 | PerfDave | NoUse: Try asking on #samba or filing a bug? |
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| 02:55.23 | doubleh1 | dondelelcaro: I dont get your last sentence ... |
| 02:55.26 | dac29 | I just re-installed debian and for some reason or another, my ssh/samba/web connections disconnect on a regular interval...anyone have any idea why? |
| 02:55.30 | sobersabre | does anybody know whether trac [proj. management] web application will be included in sarge ? |
| 02:55.34 | NoUse | PerfDave, thanks for the help |
| 02:55.56 | scarynetworkguy | !any ideas |
| 02:55.57 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a bag of rutabagas, a little sauerkraut, and 42 three-legged ostriches. And keep the KGB off my back for the next few hours! |
| 02:56.03 | sobersabre | dac29, how frequently ? |
| 02:56.07 | PerfDave | !info trac sarge |
| 02:56.15 | adar | dear god what the hell happened to my server? now I do "deluser <someuser> --remove-all-files --remove-home" and its stuck, ctrl-c doesn't kill it, and top/ps doesn't show any significant processing, nor is the HDD light on |
| 02:56.16 | dondelelcaro | doubleh1: you'd have to check the kernel config for the kernel that you're talking about. It's quite likely that acpi is built in. If not, you'll have to load the module. |
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| 02:56.28 | dac29 | sombersabre: quite often...maybe every 10 to 15 minutes |
| 02:56.29 | sobersabre | !info trac sarge |
| 02:56.34 | Sandman | Would anyone like to see an strace log? |
| 02:56.47 | dondelelcaro | adar: it'll take a bit, because --remove-all-files does a find /; |
| 02:56.50 | doubleh1 | dondelelcaro: there is no module to load ... |
| 02:56.58 | adar | dondelelcaro, I'd believe that if I heard/saw my HDD light on |
| 02:56.59 | dondelelcaro | doubleh1: then it's probably built in. Check the config.gz |
| 02:57.06 | dac29 | sobersabre: and then it's back up about a minute or so later |
| 02:57.26 | dondelelcaro | adar: more than likely you'll see a find in uninterruptible io sleep. |
| 02:57.26 | adar | dondelelcaro, I have a sneaking suspicion its waiting on a network share, coincidentally, I've been having problems mounting NFS shares on that server |
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| 02:57.36 | adar | dondelelcaro, nope, just a shell process |
| 02:58.04 | sobersabre | dac29, which else servers do you run ? |
| 02:58.12 | dondelelcaro | adar: no, you'll at least see deluser... and probably find there as well. Look at ps axfu |
| 02:58.29 | sobersabre | any svn users ? |
| 02:58.36 | dac29 | sobersabre: ftp, ssh, samba, and web...from what I know |
| 02:58.36 | sobersabre | i mean admins ... ? |
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| 02:58.56 | adar | dondelelcaro, I am capable of using ps, trust me, there is no mention of any of those processes |
| 02:58.57 | dondelelcaro | sobersabre: just ask your question. |
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| 02:59.18 | dondelelcaro | adar: if deluser is what is hanging, you'll at least see that. |
| 02:59.36 | sobersabre | is there a way of creating subversion users without having unix users on a system ? |
| 02:59.45 | telecz | how to run 32-bit applications on amd64 debian? |
| 03:00.20 | doubleh1 | I have an IDE disk over sbp2 ( thus scsi somewhere ); hdparm cant of course acces this drive; how can I set the parameters an other way ? an scsi equivalent to hdparm .... |
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| 03:01.24 | dondelelcaro | sobersabre: see http://svnbook.red-bean.com/svnbook-1.0/ch06s04.html#svn-ch-6-sect-4.4 |
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| 03:01.51 | sobersabre | dondelelcaro, thanks... i hope . |
| 03:02.21 | abrotman | helix: keep your head down :) |
| 03:02.45 | Markaci | Any Swedes awake? |
| 03:03.13 | adar | dondelelcaro, I'm not sure what happened, but my server is hosed in all sorts of ways. 1) Apache/php packages are GONE, even though the binaries are still there, 2) mounting NFS shares stopped working, 3) logging stopped on syslog and some other logs, 4) samba wouldn't respond to a "stop", I had to kill by hand, 5) deluser hung my session and killed the ssh/bash processes |
| 03:03.17 | Markaci | Can you read Swedish? |
| 03:03.32 | peterS | Markaci: no (: |
| 03:03.41 | Markaci | -_- |
| 03:03.57 | peterS | scarynetworkguy: I guess he's looking for someone who knows enough Swedish to translate something for him |
| 03:04.10 | scarynetworkguy | peterS: yeah |
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| 03:04.21 | Markaci | http://www.whirloop.se/other/brunoga.jpg <-- I want to know why that's supposed to be funny |
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| 03:04.25 | ix | is there a simple util to take screenshots in X? i forget teh name... screendump or smth |
| 03:04.33 | dondelelcaro | !screenshot |
| 03:04.33 | dpkg | screenshot is probably 'import -window root screenshot.jpg' (requires imagemagick), or The Gimp's 'acquire -> screenshot' feature. The package scrot does a nice job too, command line, date & size shot at and png format. or man xwd |
| 03:04.37 | ix | thx |
| 03:05.05 | dondelelcaro | adar: hrm.. 1) is pretty strange... you mean that a dpkg -l apache; doesn't show ii apache? 3) df -h? 4) could be any number of things... |
| 03:05.15 | adar | dondelelcaro, and now its all back!!! dpkg -L apache/phpwiki now shows all the fucking files |
| 03:05.38 | adar | dondelelcaro, I did an "apt-get update", did the package tree get corrupt or something? |
| 03:05.53 | adar | dondelelcaro, df -h shows 650 megs free, plenty for logs |
| 03:06.00 | dondelelcaro | adar: no, the installed files listing won't get corrupted. |
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| 03:06.17 | dondelelcaro | well, at least, not through an apt-get update... that doesn't touch that listing. |
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| 03:08.12 | toy-laptop | if i wanna compile my own kernel, the NON debian way |
| 03:08.15 | toy-laptop | do i just need mod init tools |
| 03:08.26 | toy-laptop | then kernel src 2.6.8.1 |
| 03:08.26 | toy-laptop | etc |
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| 03:08.43 | adar | dondelelcaro, getting this error in apache/error.log on startup: [Sat Sep 25 20:09:53 2004] [error] (2)No such file or directory: mod_mime_magic: can't read magic file /usr/share/misc/magic |
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| 03:09.25 | dondelelcaro | !find usr/share/misc/magic |
| 03:09.33 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'usr/share/misc/magic' returned no results. |
| 03:09.38 | adar | dondelelcaro, yeah, that dir doesn't exist, but there is a /usr/share/file/magic |
| 03:10.17 | adar | httpd.conf thinks the MIMEMagicFile is /usr/share/misc/magic |
| 03:10.34 | dondelelcaro | adar: that should probably be /etc/mime.types... |
| 03:10.36 | adar | I guess I'll change it to /usr/share/misc/file/magic |
| 03:11.21 | dondelelcaro | rrr... MIMEMagicFile share/magic |
| 03:11.37 | dondelelcaro | TypesConfig is /etc/mime.types. |
| 03:12.20 | wiler | anyone here answer questions about restoring a raid disk that got into degraded mode? raid1 |
| 03:12.43 | adar | dondelelcaro, oh, apache was NOT happy with that file :P |
| 03:12.53 | adar | dondelelcaro, spat all sorts of errors about regexes into the error.log |
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| 03:12.58 | wiler | apache can be a pain |
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| 03:13.43 | dondelelcaro | adar: uh, is this actually Debian and a recent Debian apache build? |
| 03:14.01 | adar | dondelelcaro, yes, I haven't changed anything on my server, everything is from the deb repository |
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| 03:14.09 | adar | from a debian mirror |
| 03:14.22 | adar | Server version: Apache/1.3.31 (Debian GNU/Linux) |
| 03:14.23 | adar | Server built: Sep 9 2004 07:31:19 |
| 03:14.56 | dondelelcaro | adar: well, your mime.types has issues then, since 1.3.31-6 is working fine... |
| 03:15.14 | adar | do you know what file MIMEMagicTypes is supposed to point at? |
| 03:15.26 | wiler | did you add the type in th /etc/mimetypes i think? |
| 03:15.30 | dondelelcaro | adar: it's set to share/magic by default. |
| 03:15.42 | adar | should I reinstall mime types? |
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| 03:15.58 | wiler | well, can you see if its broken? |
| 03:16.02 | adar | how can I check? |
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| 03:16.21 | adar | I have mime-support 3.28-1 |
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| 03:17.09 | wiler | brb |
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| 03:17.38 | adar | neither of my machines have a /usr/share/misc/magic, and apt-file doesn't list it as a file prefix for any package |
| 03:18.20 | adar | ok, another machine uses /usr/share/misc/file/magic.mime |
| 03:18.21 | adar | I'll try that one |
| 03:18.26 | dondelelcaro | adar: it's part of libmagic1 |
| 03:19.18 | adar | looks good now |
| 03:19.20 | adar | no apache errors |
| 03:19.21 | toy-laptop | is there a good 2.6 howto |
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| 03:21.19 | adar | dondelelcaro, I have reason to believe syslogd is screwy |
| 03:21.33 | adar | dondelelcaro, everything is beinged logged into syslog.0, and syslog is empty, with a date/time of sep 19th |
| 03:21.53 | adar | also, mysql.log is 35357 bytes, yet when I less it, it's an empty file |
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| 03:22.07 | jetscreamer | would this be as root? |
| 03:22.11 | adar | yes |
| 03:22.32 | adar | with "ls -l" it is 3537 bytes, with stat it is 0 bytes |
| 03:22.40 | adar | 35357 bytes |
| 03:23.19 | peterS | adar: what about ls -s? |
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| 03:23.30 | adar | 0 mysql.log |
| 03:23.40 | adar | now I found my mysql logging, its in /var/log/mysql, not in /var/log |
| 03:23.42 | peterS | adar: it's a sparse file, then, I guess |
| 03:23.45 | adar | despite /var/log having the same mysql logs |
| 03:24.03 | adar | now it's back to 0 bytes in size |
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| 03:24.13 | adar | after I looked at /var/log/mysql/mysql.log |
| 03:26.44 | adar | hmm, still not sure why the wiki isn't loading, phpinfo() comes out clean, apache is up, mysql is up, the tables all check out |
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| 03:28.35 | adar | is it safe to restart syslogd or klogd on a running system? |
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| 03:31.24 | holycow | anyone here manage to get wacom drivers to work on debian? |
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| 03:32.29 | gothtec | "while true; echo foo; done" <-- what's wrong there? |
| 03:32.43 | peterS | /mode #debian +b *!~kurumin@* |
| 03:32.55 | numist | gothtec: it loops once? may as well just echo foo |
| 03:33.06 | peterS | numist: no, it loops |
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| 03:33.17 | peterS | gothtec: you're missing the 'do' before the 'echo' |
| 03:33.20 | numist | it does? ok, so theres nothing wrong except that itll never end |
| 03:33.22 | peterS | gothtec: while true; do echo foo; done |
| 03:33.29 | gothtec | ah |
| 03:33.31 | gothtec | thanks |
| 03:34.34 | dondelelcaro | while sleep 1ms; do echo "bang head against wall"; done; |
| 03:34.44 | doleyb | holycow: I used wacom drivers successfully, long ago. |
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| 03:35.00 | simonrvn | doleyb: hehe |
| 03:35.02 | doleyb | holycow: getting wacom itself working was easy, configuring GIMP to read that device was harder. |
| 03:35.07 | simonrvn | dondelelcaro: ^^ |
| 03:35.10 | followmearound | can I make lilo boot a floppy image? |
| 03:35.11 | simonrvn | doleyb: sorry |
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| 03:35.21 | holycow | doleyb, *nod* i'm having hard time finding information on what the 'debian' way to install wacom drivers is |
| 03:35.46 | dondelelcaro | holycow: they should just be built and present in the Debian kernel images. |
| 03:35.53 | holycow | would be great to make a package i guess, i just don't get where goes what, where is the config and why... mostly its cryptic |
| 03:36.07 | dondelelcaro | holycow: but I really haven't mucked with wacom tablets since they stopped making adb and serial ones. |
| 03:36.35 | doleyb | holycow: I think they're built by default, just modprobe wacom. (I assume you have the USB pad!) |
| 03:36.38 | holycow | dondelelcaro, thats partly what confused me... so it is part of debian kernel? *hmmm* i do remember an option to enable wacom support during install very vaguely ... |
| 03:36.45 | holycow | doleyb, correct yeah |
| 03:36.54 | dondelelcaro | holycow: yeah, the default kernels build almost every module that can be built. |
| 03:37.12 | dondelelcaro | holycow: so for anything that's supported by the kernel, you just run modconf; load it, and away you go. |
| 03:37.29 | dondelelcaro | holycow: if you install hotplug and/or discover, this should happen automatically for usb wacom tablets. |
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| 03:38.04 | dondelelcaro | holycow: I'll gladly write up a howto if you send me one of the 18x12" tablets... |
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| 03:38.45 | doleyb | Mine is 7x5 |
| 03:38.50 | holycow | *hmmmm* oh okay taht basically means sarge is ready for it. my install must be fucked, wacome sorta works but i thought (according to the wacome project site) one needed to replace the drivers |
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| 03:38.51 | geppel | I have a 40gig HD that I have Linux on and a 10gig HD that is 100% free. The 40 gig HD only has about 6 gigs used space, how would I make a disk image or copy my 40 gig to my 10 gig HD? |
| 03:38.57 | holycow | dondelelcaro, hahah :) lol |
| 03:39.00 | holycow | man if i only had one |
| 03:39.05 | holycow | they're like 1k almost |
| 03:39.05 | Marce89 | holaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 03:39.17 | gothtec | Is there a variable I can use in bash that equals the current time? |
| 03:39.28 | dondelelcaro | gothtec: uh, just use $(date) |
| 03:39.30 | Marce89 | hellllllllllllllllllooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 03:39.30 | peterS | gothtec: in what format? no, there isn't, you need to call date |
| 03:39.37 | simonrvn | Marce89: stop it please |
| 03:39.38 | peterS | Marce89: please stop |
| 03:39.38 | Marce89 | fuck debiannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn |
| 03:39.42 | peterS | !ops |
| 03:39.42 | dpkg | Meet your friendly #debian operators: bdale, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk. Or: This is the Emergency Debian Hologram please state the nature of your #debian emergency. |
| 03:39.45 | simonrvn | ... |
| 03:39.50 | Marce89 | fuck debiannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn |
| 03:39.58 | simonrvn | good bye luser |
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| 03:40.07 | gothtec | heh |
| 03:40.07 | peterS | thanks, rez |
| 03:40.10 | holycow | peterrooney, lol :) |
| 03:40.15 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@201.255.31.175] by Rez |
| 03:40.16 | gothtec | thx, dondelelcaro |
| 03:40.21 | numist | thanks Rez |
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| 03:40.36 | simonrvn | thank you |
| 03:40.38 | doleyb | gothtec: I like "cp $0 $0.`date +%m%d%y`" |
| 03:40.59 | adar | dondelelcaro, all my other problems seem to have cleared up. NFS started mounting my drives once I restarted the server for the 10th time, my package listings are in order, and when I restarted klogd/syslogd, logs are being put in the proper place. but my wiki still doesn't load :( |
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| 03:41.21 | Hmmmmm_ | anyone here tied ubuntu? |
| 03:41.29 | sobersabre | adar which wiki are you using ? |
| 03:41.32 | adar | phpwiki |
| 03:41.41 | adar | it was working fine last I checked, it hasn't been upgraded in a while |
| 03:41.53 | sobersabre | so ... do u get any errors ? |
| 03:42.05 | adar | looks like php4 got upgraded recently, that may have broken it |
| 03:42.11 | adar | mysql seems OK, apache is OK |
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| 03:42.25 | adar | I haven't touched the php4 or the phpwiki config files in god knows how long |
| 03:42.36 | adar | running a tiny "phpinfo()" script works OK though |
| 03:42.44 | adar | not getting any errors in the apache logs |
| 03:42.56 | sobersabre | adar, u should see if phpwiki guys suggest upgrades .. |
| 03:43.01 | adar | ...WHAT |
| 03:43.06 | adar | I just restarted firefox, and now it works |
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| 03:43.30 | sobersabre | don't shoot ... it will be messy... who will clean ? |
| 03:43.42 | numist | Ill clean up |
| 03:43.48 | adar | I am going to cry, everything about my server magically fixed itself at the EXACT moment that I hit super-frustration |
| 03:43.52 | adar | and I have no idea why |
| 03:44.01 | numist | adar: that happens sometimes... do you have a car? |
| 03:44.05 | adar | no |
| 03:44.11 | sobersabre | adar... can it be that you changed your hostname ? |
| 03:44.15 | dondelelcaro | adar: hrm... random failures and stuff like that tends to indicate hardware issues... |
| 03:44.31 | adar | sobersabre, my hostname did change just now, that is, I had no internet connectivity until very recently |
| 03:44.41 | adar | just moved into my dorm room so I got a new IP and my old hostname works on it now |
| 03:45.12 | sobersabre | edit /etc/hosts and apache conf for the correct addresses/names... and it will work fine. |
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| 03:46.05 | sobersabre | can somebody give me a hand with lex ... ? |
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| 03:46.30 | sobersabre | or flex ... |
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| 03:47.00 | Klipper | how do i change the font size in X? |
| 03:47.06 | Klipper | its way too small!!!!!!!!!! |
| 03:47.15 | Klipper | i can bairly read a thing |
| 03:47.18 | scarynetworkguy | !!! |
| 03:47.18 | dpkg | I am not your damn csh prompt! |
| 03:47.23 | dondelelcaro | sobersabre: you can ask, but there aren't very many people here who use it. |
| 03:47.24 | adar | haha |
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| 03:47.41 | Klipper | !!! |
| 03:47.41 | dpkg | I am not your damn csh prompt! |
| 03:47.45 | Klipper | !haha |
| 03:47.52 | adar | well, dondelelcaro, peterS, and sobersabre thanks for putting up with my seemingly non-existant troubles |
| 03:47.55 | Klipper | !assrape |
| 03:48.16 | scarynetworkguy | Klipper: go play with the bot on your own time |
| 03:48.18 | Klipper | !kill himself |
| 03:48.19 | numist | !beat Klipper |
| 03:48.21 | Klipper | ok |
| 03:48.28 | Klipper | well, i nood to fix this |
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| 03:48.48 | Klipper | anyone have any ideas? |
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| 03:49.42 | numist | Klipper: besides "stop absing the bot"? |
| 03:49.44 | numist | :P |
| 03:50.04 | numist | abusing.. bah spelling |
| 03:50.43 | Klipper | what would the problem be? does anyone know? |
| 03:51.00 | scarynetworkguy | I have plenty of ideas most of them end with violent death for most of the people on the planet |
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| 03:51.08 | simonrvn | no, no idea, we're too dumb to know anything |
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| 03:51.28 | adar | kilpper: what is your desktop environment? |
| 03:51.33 | adar | sorry I mispelled your name |
| 03:51.45 | Klipper | networkguy: so your a human hater too, eh? |
| 03:51.55 | simonrvn | !kill kilpper |
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| 03:52.03 | Klipper | i'm using kde3.2 |
| 03:52.27 | adar | klipper: gnome has "gnome-font-properties", check if KDE has some similar tool |
| 03:52.29 | simonrvn | it's called upping the dpi, and or using a larger font set, like 100 dpi fonts |
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| 03:52.36 | adar | I am pretty sure you can tweak the font size in the KDE control center |
| 03:52.36 | scarynetworkguy | Klipper: nope I love humans. They just happen to be rare |
| 03:53.15 | Klipper | oh, well i hate most humans |
| 03:53.33 | simonrvn | we hate you too ;P |
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| 03:53.54 | PerfDave | More BogoMIPS is better, right? |
| 03:54.10 | simonrvn | scarynetworkguy: surprised? |
| 03:54.14 | scarynetworkguy | PerfDave: yes yes they are as good as anything |
| 03:54.22 | PerfDave | Klipper: You should be able to change the font sizes in the KDE Control Centre |
| 03:54.38 | Klipper | so whats the universal way to up the dpi? |
| 03:54.44 | scarynetworkguy | simonrvn: not in the least. |
| 03:54.52 | simonrvn | thought so |
| 03:54.53 | PerfDave | Klipper: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 ? |
| 03:55.04 | Klipper | because i found it in the kde control center, but i want to do it the universal debian way |
| 03:55.04 | PerfDave | scarynetworkguy: I've got two PCs, not sure what hardware's in them (they're both Pentium 1s, I think) but one's got more bogomips than t'other ;) |
| 03:55.36 | scarynetworkguy | PerfDave: cool. Use the one with the big bobomips. :) |
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| 03:57.53 | peterS | I will not be scary. scary is the networkguy killer... |
| 03:58.18 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 03:58.27 | scarynetworkguy | peterS: *nice* |
| 03:58.28 | mwilson | Sunday would scare anyone. :) |
| 03:58.48 | scarynetworkguy | mwilson: Even Jessica? |
| 03:58.52 | toy-laptop | debian pwns |
| 03:59.29 | simonrvn | owns what? |
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| 04:03.13 | mwilson | Hm, no need to update dbext |
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| 04:03.45 | suzzi | hello everyone |
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| 04:05.28 | adar | anyone here use XFS? |
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| 04:05.39 | peterS | adar: just ask your real question |
| 04:05.44 | adar | I've got a question with xfs_growfs, it doesn't seem to be working |
| 04:05.56 | live | How do I stop X from starting at boot? I know the apt bot in this channel has some info, but I forgot the commands, thanks :D |
| 04:05.57 | adar | my partition table, via cfdisk looks like this |
| 04:06.08 | adar | one primary linux XFS partition (hda3, bootable) |
| 04:06.12 | Hamled | live, are you able to access the console? |
| 04:06.16 | adar | one logical linux swap partition (hda5) |
| 04:06.22 | adar | 45 gigs of free space (pri/log) |
| 04:06.36 | adar | when I do xfs_growfs -d /dev/hda3, it says data size unchanged |
| 04:06.42 | live | Hamled: what do you mean? like can I change to a terminal? |
| 04:06.49 | adar | and df still shows that /dev/hda3 hasn't grown |
| 04:06.55 | peterS | adar: you have to resize /dev/hda3 first |
| 04:06.59 | peterS | adar: then run growfs |
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| 04:07.10 | adar | peterS: oh, via cfdisk? is that safe? especially on a mounted partition? |
| 04:07.11 | peterS | adar: and probably have to reboot in between, to make the kernel recognise the new partition table |
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| 04:07.47 | peterS | adar: it's safe, so long as you don't change the start of the partition |
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| 04:08.01 | adar | ok, so when I hit maximize in cfdisk, it puts an NC flag near the first partition |
| 04:08.06 | Hamled | live, do you have console access at all is what I mean |
| 04:08.07 | adar | should I write, reboot, and try again? |
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| 04:08.22 | live | Hamled: yep |
| 04:08.24 | smj | Anyone here used bootsplash on sarge? |
| 04:08.31 | Hamled | ok |
| 04:08.50 | Hamled | remove xdm from /etc/rc.d (or somewhere within there, I forget where exactly) |
| 04:09.20 | adar | peterS, I'm not sure how to resize /dev/hda3 |
| 04:09.28 | peterS | adar: parted will do it |
| 04:09.48 | peterS | adar: but I'm not sure what it will do w/r/t the filesystem on top of it. I'd think it would have an option not to touch it.. |
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| 04:09.52 | adar | peterS, ok, installing that and I'll give it a shot |
| 04:09.54 | ndowens | hey |
| 04:10.01 | live | Hamled: aight, I'll try |
| 04:10.11 | Hamled | live, actually just move it |
| 04:10.18 | Hamled | because you might want to turn it back on later :P |
| 04:11.08 | live | Hamled: thats what i was going to do ;) /etc/rc2.d/ ? |
| 04:11.32 | live | Hamled: actually xdm is not started |
| 04:11.39 | Hamled | odd |
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| 04:11.46 | Hamled | normally that's how X is booted into |
| 04:12.19 | ndowens | hmm i am looking at the apt how to on mixing sources, i have it set so it will use sarge sources as default but when i try apt-get -t unstable install foo it still downloads from sarge |
| 04:12.52 | Hamled | normally the xdm script is run, and that will run whatever login thing you have specified, gdm or kdm normally |
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| 04:13.11 | adar | peterS, I'm not seeing any option to leave the file system alone, furthermore, "resize" takes both a start and an end coordinate, and I am worried that even using the same start coordinate will still screw some things up |
| 04:13.31 | live | Hamled: neither of them is running |
| 04:13.33 | Angelo | i've got 32bit sarge installed, can someone point me to a howto to cross-compile my kernel for amd64? |
| 04:13.35 | live | Hamled: what about xfs? |
| 04:13.40 | peterS | adar: best if you can take the disk offline first, then - unmount everything on it |
| 04:13.50 | adar | peterS, I can't, it's the root partition |
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| 04:13.57 | Hamled | live, unless you mean xfs the fs, then perhaps removing xfs would be good idea |
| 04:14.11 | peterS | adar: well, I haven't tried to use parted in the way you need |
| 04:14.14 | Nurbs | Hamled: /etc/init.d/gdm or kdm start the respective dm |
| 04:14.15 | live | Hamled: no, X font server I believe |
| 04:16.10 | ndowens | any clues, i've tried as well: apt-get install foo/unstable |
| 04:16.30 | Nurbs | ndowens: same versions in testing and unstable? |
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| 04:17.02 | ndowens | i kinda doubt it |
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| 04:17.11 | Nurbs | ndowens: apt-cache policy foo |
| 04:17.27 | BlackJudas | what does: "nfs warning: mount version older than kernel" actually imply? Seeing that I've enabled support for NFSv3 throughout. ?? |
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| 04:17.50 | Nurbs | BlackJudas: it does mean what it say and is normally not dangerous. |
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| 04:17.54 | Nurbs | says |
| 04:18.40 | ndowens | Nurbs: ok i get something like: canidate: some #s, vesion table 2.0.10-0.3 0 and beside testin git has 990 and unstable it has 500 |
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| 04:19.02 | BlackJudas | Nurbs, odd. Ok, well transferring files larger than say 400 mbs lags out like something fierce, they do end up on the server though, and intact. What could I check to see what's causing this lag? |
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| 04:19.36 | ndowens | so i guess they are the same |
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| 04:19.43 | Nurbs | BlackJudas: lags out? |
| 04:19.44 | ndowens | thx |
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| 04:19.58 | live | How do I disable X from starting on boot? |
| 04:20.07 | christopher | get rid of xdm |
| 04:20.08 | christopher | :P |
| 04:20.15 | christopher | or kdm or whatever you use |
| 04:20.16 | Nurbs | ndowens: experimental has got 2.4.0-0.1 :> |
| 04:20.16 | adar | peterS: I just noticed that the situation is actually more complicated, because hda3 goes from 0 to 15 gigs, then comes the swap space, then comes the empty space, so it can't be contiguous unless I move the swap space around too |
| 04:20.22 | BlackJudas | Nurbs, pauses. |
| 04:20.23 | live | christopher: xdm isn't running though |
| 04:20.27 | christopher | live: gdm? |
| 04:20.31 | live | christopher: neither |
| 04:20.31 | peterS | adar: then you'll have to do that first |
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| 04:20.38 | christopher | live: check your boot scripts |
| 04:20.47 | peterS | adar: that, fortunately, is easy. swapoff /dev/hdawhatever |
| 04:20.48 | live | christopher: xdm is installed but not running, and xdm is not in rc2.d |
| 04:20.53 | spinifex | If I have 1 gig ddr ram, how big should my swap partition be? |
| 04:20.55 | Nurbs | BlackJudas: dunno :) |
| 04:21.07 | Nurbs | BlackJudas: probably not related, though. many if not most people get those warnings :) |
| 04:21.08 | adar | peterS: and once I turn off swap, how do I shuffle partitions around? |
| 04:21.26 | peterS | adar: you can use fdisk in expert mode to change sizes |
| 04:21.42 | peterS | adar: or parted, but you might have already given up on parted *not* wanting to play with the filesystem inside the partition |
| 04:21.58 | adar | well, documentation seems to indicate that parted can work with xfs |
| 04:22.07 | peterS | adar: but you don't want it touching a mounted filesystem |
| 04:22.09 | adar | then again I'm not sure what resize will do to the fs |
| 04:22.15 | Nurbs | spinifex: depends on what you run. I'd just add another GB swap here... |
| 04:22.25 | peterS | adar: so one way or another you don't want it to *try* to resize the xfs filesystem while you're using it for your root fs |
| 04:22.26 | Nurbs | spinifex: but you can probably live without, too |
| 04:22.29 | spinifex | just 1, ok |
| 04:22.43 | live | christopher: could you be a little more descriptive please? I haven't used debian in a while |
| 04:22.55 | spinifex | people often say use double your ram, up to a point, but 2 gigs would be a lot |
| 04:23.07 | Nurbs | spinifex: quite an old "rule" |
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| 04:23.17 | peterS | spinifex: OTOH, if you have a gig of ram, and you don't have *way* too much disk space, then you've specced your machine wrong |
| 04:23.51 | spinifex | it's just that I'm putting debian on a 10 gig partition on a windows laptop |
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| 04:23.56 | Nurbs | spinifex: some old systems with N MB couldn't use the first N MB of swap or work efficiently without twice the size |
| 04:23.59 | BlackJudas | Nurbs, thx. |
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| 04:24.22 | Nurbs | spinifex: you probably don't need any and you can still use swap files |
| 04:24.39 | spinifex | no swap partition? |
| 04:24.41 | Nurbs | which is more flexible |
| 04:24.47 | Nurbs | no. |
| 04:24.54 | spinifex | ok, cool |
| 04:24.55 | Nurbs | or yes... no swap partition |
| 04:25.11 | spinifex | aite then. more space for me |
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| 04:25.41 | Nurbs | if you need more read up on swap files on linux |
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| 04:26.19 | Gokee2 | hey all has anyone here made a nvidia video card to work under debain? |
| 04:26.26 | spinifex | I have |
| 04:26.28 | Nurbs | yes, lots of people. |
| 04:26.28 | jetscreamer | no never |
| 04:26.30 | jetscreamer | lies |
| 04:26.32 | jetscreamer | nobody |
| 04:26.43 | Nurbs | it only works on gentoo |
| 04:26.48 | jetscreamer | correct |
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| 04:26.54 | Nurbs | it's sunday, yay :) |
| 04:27.01 | spinifex | downlead the linux drivers from their website, and then install them while X isn't running |
| 04:27.04 | ndowens | hmm i guess this is safer if u are gonna mix sid and sarge, i have sarge as the default release, and now i am geting mozilla of unstable and it is downloading some files from sarge and some from sid |
| 04:27.12 | Nurbs | ouch. |
| 04:27.24 | spinifex | what's sid? |
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| 04:27.28 | Nurbs | !sid |
| 04:27.28 | dpkg | sid is probably the unstable version of Debian. Commonly [and wrongly] backronymed Still In Development. It's actually named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story. Ask me about unstable. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. |
| 04:27.41 | jetscreamer | lysergic diethylimide |
| 04:28.17 | spinifex | sid is beyond sarge? I'm installing woody right now-- should I scrap that and get sarge instead? |
| 04:28.22 | ndowens | isn't it safer if it gets some files it needs from sarge and the other from sid |
| 04:28.22 | Gokee2 | spinifex, Yes but who? |
| 04:28.41 | jetscreamer | spinifex, sarge is about to become the one in 'stable' and woody will be archived |
| 04:28.57 | spinifex | is that a yes? |
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| 04:29.07 | Gokee2 | What I want to know is if I to the nvidia thing I get from there wabsite and boom it works? |
| 04:29.17 | Nurbs | spinifex: that's a it's-up-to-you :) |
| 04:29.31 | spinifex | can I upgrade from woody easily? |
| 04:29.32 | Nurbs | Gokee2: yes. |
| 04:29.33 | ndowens | if u want newer stuff, yes if u want a server no |
| 04:29.34 | jetscreamer | Gokee2, with kernel-headers available |
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| 04:29.37 | hanxue | I have jsut reconfigured kernel modules for ALSA, and now the mouse cannot be detected. Can anybody please guide me on re-enabling the mouse? |
| 04:29.38 | jetscreamer | spinifex, yes |
| 04:29.48 | scarynetworkguy | !tell Gokee2 aobut faq |
| 04:29.51 | jetscreamer | hanxue psmouse and mousedev |
| 04:29.54 | Nurbs | Gokee2: there are debian packages, too, if you look around a bit |
| 04:29.55 | spinifex | gokee2 not boom, do what I just said and it works... but yeah, pretty simple |
| 04:30.06 | scarynetworkguy | Gokee2: look under the audio/video section of the faq |
| 04:30.14 | Gokee2 | Nurbs, Where? er apt-get or somewhere else? |
| 04:30.18 | jetscreamer | !woody->sarge |
| 04:30.20 | Nurbs | !tell Gokee2 about nvidia |
| 04:30.42 | Nurbs | just talk to dpkg :) |
| 04:30.43 | jetscreamer | !test |
| 04:30.43 | dpkg | Yes, jetscreamer, you're still online. |
| 04:30.46 | jetscreamer | hmmm |
| 04:30.53 | hanxue | jetscreamer: which package? Tried apt-cache search, could not find both |
| 04:31.10 | jetscreamer | hanxue, they're modules |
| 04:31.16 | jetscreamer | for the kernel |
| 04:31.20 | jetscreamer | not packages |
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| 04:32.02 | Gokee2 | Nurbs, Where is the nvidia-howto' or maybe 'nvidia debs? |
| 04:32.09 | hanxue | jetscreamer, okay. THing is, I am still not familiar about the Debian way of configuring kernel/modules. Will read up on docs. Thanks |
| 04:32.26 | jetscreamer | hanxue, with modconf or editing /etc/modules && modporbe blah |
| 04:32.46 | jetscreamer | s/modporbe/modprobe/ |
| 04:33.41 | jetscreamer | hanxue, your kernel module names may differ |
| 04:33.54 | jetscreamer | depending on the uname -r |
| 04:34.29 | hanxue | yup, I am trying to figure out everything from scratch. /etc/modules only has ide-cd and ide-generic |
| 04:34.41 | HydroSan | Toying around with Ethereal. This program scares me. |
| 04:34.57 | peterS | HydroSan: in a good way, I hope |
| 04:35.32 | jetscreamer | hanxue, use modconf. it loads the module, and puts an entry in /etc/modules for you |
| 04:35.40 | jetscreamer | hanxue, what kernel |
| 04:36.15 | hanxue | the other problem is ppp. Used pppconf to autoconnect at startup, which it does. But no default gateway created automatically. So I had to to manually add gw each time. Which step(s) I missed out? |
| 04:36.31 | Gokee2 | !tell Gokee2 about faq |
| 04:36.35 | Gokee2 | :) yay |
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| 04:37.03 | hanxue | 2.6.8-1-386 |
| 04:37.38 | jetscreamer | yeah modprobe psmouse mousedev && nano /etc/modules and put those in, or just use modconf |
| 04:38.19 | jetscreamer | but you might want a 2.6.8-1-k7 or -686 instead maybe, depends on what you want |
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| 04:38.55 | hanxue | is modconf a module? loaded psmouse and mousedev. I presume I need to restart the box? |
| 04:38.55 | try_catch_this | how do you configuer linux to use a particular partition for swaping? I have a primary 82 partition (Linux Swap) and linux dosent use it |
| 04:39.05 | jetscreamer | no no need to restart |
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| 04:39.30 | Gokee2 | in the faq I found "How can I install the binary only Nvidia drivers?" I wont to know "How can I install the Nvidia drivers?" Why is that not in there? |
| 04:39.35 | hanxue | mouse still not working |
| 04:39.36 | jetscreamer | modconf is a program no longer install by default with d-i, and i sense with the force that you did use d-i |
| 04:39.38 | tcsetattr | add the swap partition to /etc/fstab as a filesystem of type "swap" |
| 04:39.45 | tcsetattr | then do a swapon -a |
| 04:39.51 | fester2001 | hi how can i get rid of items marked rc when i run dpkg -l compleatly from my system? |
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| 04:40.01 | jetscreamer | you might need to log out of gnome or whatever |
| 04:40.04 | jetscreamer | not sure |
| 04:40.09 | hanxue | jetscreamer: bull's eye! :) I used debian installer (testing) |
| 04:40.13 | tcsetattr | dpkg --purge |
| 04:40.13 | dpkg | tcsetattr: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about |
| 04:40.15 | try_catch_this | ok |
| 04:40.26 | jetscreamer | and check /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
| 04:40.39 | try_catch_this | tcsetattr: is this automatic after every reboot? |
| 04:40.53 | tcsetattr | swapon -a is run on boot |
| 04:41.04 | try_catch_this | ok |
| 04:41.20 | hanxue | jetscreamer, checked XF86Config-4 In fact, used knoppix and copy the config (which is working well) |
| 04:41.21 | tcsetattr | you can do a "swapon /dev/foo" instead of adding it to fstab, if you don't want it done on the next boot |
| 04:42.44 | jetscreamer | hanxue, but your mouse was working before you started messing with the alsa stuff |
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| 04:43.22 | jetscreamer | ? |
| 04:43.30 | hanxue | jetscreamer, yes. I followed a tutorial that requires me to recompile the kernel modules, and I am not sure if it is the correct (i.e. Debian) way of doing it |
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| 04:44.25 | jetscreamer | all that matters is if you load the correct modules iirc |
| 04:44.45 | hanxue | hmm... trying out modconf now, and tried installing the apm module. It says: FATAL: Error inserting apm (/lib/modules/2.6.8-1-386/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/apm.ko): No such device |
| 04:44.48 | jetscreamer | what happened when you did modprobe mousedev |
| 04:44.51 | TheCat | hi everyone, I have the dreaded VFS: Cannot open root device "303" or unknown block(3,3) Please append a correct "root=" boot option Kernel Panic problem |
| 04:44.57 | jetscreamer | ok that's normal |
| 04:45.08 | try_catch_this | "/dev/hda2 /mnt/hda2 auto noauto,users,exec 0 0" the partition I have as a swap is hda5, so the new line should look like "/dev/hda5 /mnt/hda5 swap noauto,users,exec 0 0" |
| 04:45.12 | hanxue | modprobe does not return anything. lsmod shows mousedev and psmouse loaded |
| 04:45.18 | jetscreamer | !tell TheCat about initrd |
| 04:45.25 | jetscreamer | ah |
| 04:45.26 | TheCat | I had intitrd |
| 04:45.28 | TheCat | I did |
| 04:45.31 | TheCat | but |
| 04:45.41 | TheCat | somehow when I installed a new kernel 2.6.8 it deleted my old .img files |
| 04:45.54 | Gokee2 | Does anyone care to tell me how to tell mw how to find out what version of Debian I am running? |
| 04:45.57 | TheCat | out of the /initrd/ directory, not sure how that happened |
| 04:46.04 | jetscreamer | no it's /dev/hda5 none swap |
| 04:46.05 | TheCat | uname -r |
| 04:46.20 | Gokee2 | TheCat, Thanks you |
| 04:46.44 | jetscreamer | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:46.50 | hanxue | hmm.. I can't even install the floppy module. Can't seem to install any modules |
| 04:46.55 | TheCat | Uh, at the moment I actually have no way to get into Linux |
| 04:47.02 | TheCat | I can access all my files from Windows |
| 04:47.07 | TheCat | but I can't actually run lilo |
| 04:47.13 | TheCat | to update my boot loader |
| 04:47.14 | try_catch_this | "/dev/hdd2 none swap sw 0 0" exactly like this? |
| 04:47.17 | jetscreamer | hanxue, do you have the package module-init-tools ? |
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| 04:47.33 | jetscreamer | try_catch_this, change the hdd2 part to whatever |
| 04:47.40 | hanxue | yep |
| 04:47.45 | try_catch_this | "/dev/hdd2 none swap sw 0 0" exactly like this? and what is this hdd2? |
| 04:47.50 | try_catch_this | ok |
| 04:47.52 | jetscreamer | try_catch_this, change the hdd2 part to whatever |
| 04:48.04 | tcsetattr | hdd2 is the second partition on the slave device on the second IDE controller |
| 04:48.06 | try_catch_this | gotcha |
| 04:48.07 | jetscreamer | wherever your spap space is |
| 04:48.13 | jetscreamer | swap |
| 04:48.19 | TheCat | Gokee2, np happy to help |
| 04:48.24 | hanxue | modconf says mousedev is already installed |
| 04:48.35 | jetscreamer | hanxue, ok how about psmouse |
| 04:48.42 | hanxue | yep, installed as well |
| 04:48.59 | try_catch_this | "/dev/hda5 none swap sw 0 0" is how I added it |
| 04:49.20 | TheCat | uh, anyone think of a way I can be helped? |
| 04:49.21 | jetscreamer | try_catch_this, ok should work, except wait |
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| 04:50.39 | jetscreamer | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:50.42 | jetscreamer | like that |
| 04:50.49 | jetscreamer | cept hda5 |
| 04:51.19 | TheCat | How would I go about setting up an intrd image? |
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| 04:51.32 | jetscreamer | TheCat, how did you aquire your kernel |
| 04:51.38 | TheCat | I built it |
| 04:51.54 | peterS | TheCat: in that case, you should not need an initrd |
| 04:51.57 | jetscreamer | hanxue, you logged out and logged back in? |
| 04:51.57 | TheCat | I got it the sources from the Debian site, did an exam on getting on configuring it |
| 04:52.01 | peterS | TheCat: unless you're doing something like root fs on lvm |
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| 04:52.15 | jetscreamer | TheCat, do you have a reference to initrd in /etc/lilo.conf? |
| 04:52.22 | TheCat | I did |
| 04:52.24 | TheCat | but |
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| 04:52.36 | TheCat | when I tried to reinitilize the lilo file after installing the new kernel |
| 04:52.51 | TheCat | it found that my initrd.img files from my original Sarge install were gone |
| 04:52.58 | jetscreamer | !enter |
| 04:52.58 | dpkg | The enter key or carriage return key is not a substitute for punctuation. Use a period '.', comma ',', colon ':', semi-colon ';' emdash '---', or ellipsis '...' instead. |
| 04:53.12 | TheCat | so I had to remove those lines and when I rebooted I could not get into 2.6.7-1 or 2.6.8 (my new kernel) |
| 04:53.19 | Poprocks | weird problem here -- module psmouse is loaded, and it even detects my mouse when I load it with modconf/modprobe. However, XFree86 can't initialize my mouse propely. I've tried both the old style (/dev/psaux) and DevFS style, but neither of them work. I just keep getting an error that it can't find the mouse. Any ideas? |
| 04:53.21 | jetscreamer | TheCat, renamed to initrd.img.old perhaps |
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| 04:53.33 | TheCat | There is no file |
| 04:53.39 | TheCat | the initrd folder is empty |
| 04:53.46 | jetscreamer | TheCat, it's in /boot |
| 04:54.02 | TheCat | this I have |
| 04:54.02 | TheCat | initrd.img-2.6.7-1-386 |
| 04:54.08 | jetscreamer | TheCat, /initrd.img(.old) is a symlink to /boot/blah |
| 04:54.18 | Gokee2 | GGRRRRR is there a place that tells me what 2.4.26 means in terms of stable testing and theotherone? |
| 04:54.21 | TheCat | ok |
| 04:54.22 | TheCat | so |
| 04:54.22 | jetscreamer | that's your old one |
| 04:54.34 | TheCat | how can I |
| 04:54.40 | TheCat | oh shoot |
| 04:54.41 | TheCat | ok |
| 04:54.46 | Caveman- | Gokee2: packages.debian.og |
| 04:54.47 | jetscreamer | so do you have an initrd= line in /etc/lilo.conf, under the vmlinuz stanza? |
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| 04:54.54 | Gokee2 | Caveman-, Thank you |
| 04:55.00 | TheCat | how can I actually re initialize lilo? |
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| 04:55.21 | TheCat | can I do that by hitting the ESC key at the LILO booter and entering a command prompt and typing lilo? |
| 04:55.44 | cromd | greetings all ... what should i be learning to use if i want to check on suspect hard drives? |
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| 04:56.01 | TheCat | Because I managed quite effectively to make it so I can't boot to 2.6.7-1 or 2.6.8 |
| 04:56.07 | jetscreamer | hanxue, what i said always fixes the no mouse problem i always get from using d-i and then doing 'something' so psmouse and mousedev don't get loaded. not sure why yours isn't working |
| 04:56.08 | TheCat | but I have full control of my files from Windows |
| 04:56.28 | Gokee2 | er Caveman- I don`t see a listing of what distro in 2.4.26? |
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| 04:56.54 | jetscreamer | TheCat, make the LinuxOLD part in lilo.conf have the correct paths to the stuff in /boot, the old kernel |
| 04:57.01 | Poprocks | no one? |
| 04:57.11 | jetscreamer | and make sure the /vmlinuz one doesn't have an initrd part |
| 04:57.17 | TheCat | ya |
| 04:57.17 | deputydink | cromd - try hdparm |
| 04:57.18 | TheCat | but how |
| 04:57.22 | TheCat | I can do that |
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| 04:57.28 | TheCat | with the actual files, but I can't then run lilo |
| 04:57.28 | jetscreamer | the cat you can't boot? |
| 04:57.29 | TheCat | form Windows |
| 04:57.37 | jetscreamer | thecat got a woody cd? |
| 04:57.42 | cromd | thanks deputydink ... greatly appreciated ... any words of caution for the unwary on that one? |
| 04:57.56 | jetscreamer | thecat where is your emergency linux floppy |
| 04:57.59 | jetscreamer | :) |
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| 04:58.21 | TheCat | I do, but Woody is really bad for my laptop - bf2.4 doesn't allow for my keyboard to work in setup and the standard kernel won't let me into anything but command line |
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| 04:58.27 | TheCat | I have no floppy drive in my laptop |
| 04:58.39 | deputydink | cromd - i've used hdparm to diagnose and fix quite a few problems... i've also caused a few |
| 04:58.50 | deputydink | use with caution :| |
| 04:58.56 | davisfactor | im sure this has been asked a thousand times already, but is there a fix for amavis yet? |
| 04:58.58 | jetscreamer | TheCat, you can use the woody cd to boot, type rescue root=/dev/hdblah, then run lilo after editing the .conf |
| 04:59.13 | jetscreamer | then reboot |
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| 04:59.29 | TheCat | ok, so I enter that in in the space where it asks for my boot option selections? |
| 04:59.29 | Poprocks | weird problem here -- module psmouse is loaded, and it even detects my mouse when I load it with modconf/modprobe. However, XFree86 can't initialize my mouse propely. I've tried both the old style (/dev/psaux) and DevFS style, but neither of them work. I just keep getting an error that it can't find the mouse. Any ideas? |
| 04:59.34 | Poprocks | doesn't work with GPM either |
| 04:59.39 | jetscreamer | when it says boot: |
| 04:59.44 | az[a]zel | heh, Xchat on OS X can speak what's in the channel (have to highlight the text first).. scary considering the stuff that gets said here |
| 04:59.49 | jetscreamer | right when the computer starts |
| 04:59.53 | cromd | thanks deputydink |
| 05:00.00 | jetscreamer | well when it boots off the cd |
| 05:00.08 | TheCat | ya, after the menu is up though right? |
| 05:00.15 | jetscreamer | same time yieah |
| 05:00.33 | TheCat | ok, I'll try that right now, thanks. If it works should I come back to tell you? |
| 05:00.51 | jetscreamer | i don't care, it will work if you have lilo configured correctly |
| 05:00.59 | jetscreamer | but sure come back and give me karma |
| 05:01.09 | TheCat | ok then if you see me again you'll know it didn't - thanks : ) |
| 05:01.16 | jetscreamer | k g'luck |
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| 05:01.44 | betoreyez | is there any way to the the usb controller to let a device use more than 500m |
| 05:01.48 | betoreyez | is there any way to the the usb controller to let a device use more than 500mA? |
| 05:02.03 | davisfactor | has anyone gotten amavisd-new working since it broke last week? |
| 05:02.15 | jetscreamer | poprocks might need mousedev |
| 05:02.43 | Poprocks | jetscreamer: k I'll try that |
| 05:02.45 | jetscreamer | betoreyez, i've seen something that will do that, but that's all i can tell you |
| 05:03.13 | try_catch_this | what plays, wmv's in linux? |
| 05:03.15 | Poprocks | jetscreamer: sweet, thanks |
| 05:03.24 | Poprocks | try_catch_this: mplayer, xine |
| 05:03.30 | Poprocks | and VLC |
| 05:03.31 | jetscreamer | xine-ui |
| 05:03.34 | adar | I just updated my printer list in cups, but firefox is still stuck on my old one, even after restarting firefox, how can I get it to see the new list? |
| 05:03.35 | Poprocks | noo, mplayer |
| 05:03.43 | try_catch_this | ypou need to get a codec? |
| 05:03.49 | Poprocks | adar: you using Xprint? |
| 05:03.53 | jetscreamer | mplayer xine-ui |
| 05:03.54 | adar | Poprocks, I think so |
| 05:04.00 | Poprocks | adar: try restarting Xprint? |
| 05:04.31 | adar | Poprocks, sweet, thanks! |
| 05:04.44 | jetscreamer | dpkg, mplayer is also <reply> see !marillat |
| 05:04.44 | dpkg | okay, jetscreamer |
| 05:04.50 | Poprocks | adar: np :) |
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| 05:05.27 | Gokee2 | I am getting more then a little anoyed after some serching I have not found out if 2.4.26 is stable woody or testing. Can anyone shed some light on this matter for me? |
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| 05:06.45 | peterS | Gokee2: sarge has 2.4.27 |
| 05:06.51 | peterS | Gokee2: woody has 2.4.18 |
| 05:07.14 | Gokee2 | And 2.4.26 is? |
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| 05:08.23 | mith | how do I tell dpkg to never replace config/init files and to always drop them in dpkg-new or whatever? |
| 05:08.26 | Gokee2 | O and can I upgrade to 2.6 or is that hard? |
| 05:08.28 | Poprocks | and guys... btw, I love aptitude :) |
| 05:08.38 | unique3111 | how can i do a system restore in debian, having problems with my firefox browser shutting down by itself, when i did the netinstall i installed stuff i see that i don't need, do i have to reinstall it? |
| 05:09.40 | Gokee2 | peterS, You still there? |
| 05:09.59 | peterS | Gokee2: for 2.6 kernels and woody, /msg dpkg bunk 2.6 |
| 05:10.51 | Gokee2 | thank you |
| 05:11.05 | unique3111 | any help for me?? |
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| 05:12.28 | jetscreamer | is older than 2.4.27 |
| 05:12.44 | jetscreamer | no not hard when you know how |
| 05:12.58 | jetscreamer | frustrating when things don't go right |
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| 05:14.21 | Gokee2 | jetscreamer, My problem your talking about? I have 2.4.26 |
| 05:14.37 | cromd | unique3111 ... i don't know about firefox, but if all you want to do is uninstall stuff, try looking at apt-get or dpkg in the man pages ... it's not too hard after reading those |
| 05:14.48 | jetscreamer | gokee2 i suggest tldp.org first |
| 05:15.10 | unique3111 | that will take along time. |
| 05:15.33 | Gokee2 | Thanks all look around there |
| 05:15.37 | Gokee2 | er thats not debain? |
| 05:15.40 | cromd | you'd be suprised unique3111, there's not much to it, and once you learn it, it will save you lots of time and effort in the future |
| 05:15.45 | unique3111 | what i did is check everything when it asked me what i wanted to install. |
| 05:16.07 | unique3111 | i learn apt-get, and find it a usefull tool. |
| 05:16.23 | cromd | for removing also, unique3111 |
| 05:16.44 | jetscreamer | ok http://www.debian.org/doc/ |
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| 05:17.27 | unique3111 | yeah i know. |
| 05:17.54 | unique3111 | but when i say i have to remove stuff, i mean i have to remove stuff. |
| 05:18.08 | cromd | you can do it all on one command line unique3111 |
| 05:18.19 | Gokee2 | Ok all try there :) |
| 05:19.11 | unique3111 | oh yeah. |
| 05:19.12 | cromd | unique3111 ... can you do a dpkg -l | grep firefox to find all the packages to remove? Does that work? |
| 05:19.17 | unique3111 | you right. |
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| 05:19.53 | unique3111 | no not just firefox. i will just do a reinstall with it. |
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| 05:20.09 | cavila1 | pk |
| 05:20.16 | unique3111 | but i install everything when i was prompted doing the netinst. |
| 05:20.18 | cromd | good luck with it unique3111 |
| 05:20.27 | unique3111 | now i find out i didn't need everything. |
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| 05:22.36 | cromd | unique3111: do you know what you don't need? |
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| 05:26.49 | jetscreamer | ? |
| 05:26.53 | TheCat | hello |
| 05:27.12 | TheCat | Well, my Linux 2.6.7 is fixed |
| 05:27.20 | TheCat | but my 2.6.8 is still not working |
| 05:27.23 | jetscreamer | huzzah |
| 05:27.41 | jetscreamer | same drill cept no initrd |
| 05:27.45 | TheCat | so thanks for getting me so I wasn't actually behind, but I really need to get 2.6.8+ my vid drivers fixed : ) |
| 05:28.18 | suzzi | any one really handy with postfix or email servers in general, there doesnt seem to be any one on #postfix, but i need to figure out how to have the return address of sent mail to be user@domain instead of the current user@IP ??? |
| 05:28.18 | TheCat | hmm |
| 05:28.20 | jetscreamer | use make-kpkg to compile kernels with if you didn't |
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| 05:28.40 | TheCat | I did use make-kpkg give me a sec I'll post the exact |
| 05:28.50 | jetscreamer | no don't paste here |
| 05:28.55 | jetscreamer | use #flood |
| 05:28.56 | numist | noooo! |
| 05:29.14 | Sandman | Question |
| 05:29.15 | TheCat | make-kpkg --append-to-version "-flavour" --added-modules fglrx-4.3.0-3.12.0 kernel_image modules_image |
| 05:29.27 | numist | Sandman: radio shack |
| 05:29.41 | jetscreamer | it's--append-to-version=blah |
| 05:29.54 | TheCat | so that created 2.6.8-flavour |
| 05:29.56 | TheCat | which I am fine with |
| 05:29.57 | Sandman | Has the linux port of firefox always had an Edit=>preferences method to changing options rather than Tools=>Options? |
| 05:30.03 | jetscreamer | policy says only numbers and decimals iirc |
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| 05:30.11 | phat3 | hello |
| 05:30.14 | jetscreamer | i forget |
| 05:30.18 | jetscreamer | but that doesn't matter |
| 05:30.22 | cromd | just an idea, unique3111 |
| 05:30.22 | sjtu | How to add linebreak in emacs-wiki, the exported html without correct linebreak? |
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| 05:30.28 | phat3 | ok what driver do i use for a usb optical mouse? |
| 05:30.34 | unique3111 | i know what i got to do. |
| 05:30.37 | unique3111 | reinstall. |
| 05:30.54 | unique3111 | and just do a workstation install when prompted. |
| 05:30.59 | cromd | would dpkg-reconfigure help you? |
| 05:31.02 | jetscreamer | TheCat, and you used dpkg -i on the .deb it created in ../ eh? |
| 05:31.07 | unique3111 | and the do apt-get for everything else. |
| 05:31.10 | TheCat | yep |
| 05:31.20 | phat3 | nobody know eh |
| 05:31.25 | TheCat | dpkg -i kernel-image-2.6.8-flavour_10.00.Custom_i386.deb |
| 05:32.05 | jetscreamer | ok TheCat, you should just need to make sure that the /vmlinuz part has the correct path, and no initrd reference... if it borks on boot still, you messed up the make menuconfig |
| 05:32.17 | numist | I love dpkg |
| 05:32.33 | phat3 | hello does anydbody know what driver to use for a usb optical mouse? |
| 05:32.34 | TheCat | I didn't use menuconfig |
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| 05:32.47 | jetscreamer | TheCat, what did you use |
| 05:32.49 | TheCat | I just did it plain through the command line |
| 05:32.52 | streuner | dpkg, say would you marry me numist? |
| 05:32.53 | dpkg | would you marry me numist |
| 05:32.54 | TheCat | Dialog ? |
| 05:33.03 | numist | I would. I would. |
| 05:33.22 | jetscreamer | ah... ok me i'd have a tendency to guess that you screwed it up :_ |
| 05:33.24 | jetscreamer | :) |
| 05:33.30 | phat3 | oh k i guess im not going to get a answer |
| 05:33.34 | jetscreamer | no idea though |
| 05:33.36 | TheCat | TOok me about 2 hours |
| 05:33.40 | TheCat | then with 6 questions left |
| 05:33.47 | jetscreamer | TheCat, make menuconfig is a lot easier |
| 05:33.49 | mwilson | phat3: Gee, we didn't know you were owed one. |
| 05:33.50 | TheCat | I tried to copy and paste the question to ask a friend...the Windows way...Ctrl+C |
| 05:34.05 | numist | haha |
| 05:34.09 | TheCat | while in Terminal mode, not a good thing |
| 05:34.14 | phat3 | i just asked a simple ? |
| 05:34.20 | numist | very nice, TheCat |
| 05:34.41 | TheCat | but I think I got it all setup properly on the 5th try, but this is a problem |
| 05:34.42 | jetscreamer | TheCat, i'd rm .config, or rename it, make-kpkg clean then make menuconfig |
| 05:34.44 | mwilson | phat3: Yes, you did. But nowhere is it written that anyone is required to answer it. |
| 05:34.54 | phat3 | i know |
| 05:35.04 | Sandman | I've an strace log of what I think is a bug. What should I be looking for? Can I get some help? |
| 05:35.09 | phat3 | which is why i said i guess nobody is going to answer my ? |
| 05:35.23 | jetscreamer | phat3 use modconf, find usb and mouse sections |
| 05:35.31 | jetscreamer | man modconf |
| 05:35.43 | TheCat | jetscreamer...are you sure there is no way to fix this problem? |
| 05:36.10 | jetscreamer | TheCat, if lilo.conf is correct, you screwed up the config afaik |
| 05:36.17 | mwilson | phat3: Personally, I make it a point to never get involved with someone else's X. |
| 05:36.28 | TheCat | VFS: Cannot open root device "303" or unknown block(3,3) Please append a correct "root=" boot option Kernel panic:VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown block(3,3) |
| 05:36.52 | jetscreamer | TheCat, what i said, still. |
| 05:37.10 | TheCat | *grumbles* - is there any way to actually use menuconfig to edit things? |
| 05:37.16 | TheCat | rather than starting from scratch |
| 05:37.19 | spinifex | o cripes. I seem to have hit a problem. In order to use the web at ucsc, I need to login from a web browser. I just installed debian, and had to get everything off the CD. Is there an X server environment on the minimal CD? I doubt there would be but.. damn |
| 05:37.21 | jetscreamer | TheCat, i'm no guru, but that's all i know |
| 05:37.32 | jetscreamer | TheCat, yeah you can |
| 05:37.34 | spinifex | oo oo maybe lynx |
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| 05:37.48 | jetscreamer | make-kpkg clean will not touch your .config |
| 05:38.08 | jetscreamer | i just find it better to start with the clean slate thingy |
| 05:38.17 | jetscreamer | you can keep your current stuff |
| 05:38.36 | streuner | TheCat: grep INITRD your_config and disable it |
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| 05:39.06 | spinifex | crap. Are there any web browsers on the ... nope. |
| 05:39.52 | spinifex | from a minimal debian install, is there any concievable way I could sign in to my university's web service? |
| 05:39.55 | jetscreamer | lynx, links, elinks |
| 05:40.03 | spinifex | not on minimal cd.. |
| 05:40.03 | jetscreamer | fpt |
| 05:40.06 | jetscreamer | ftp |
| 05:40.10 | jetscreamer | no idea |
| 05:40.12 | phat3 | ok should i use a particular driver? |
| 05:40.19 | phat3 | or just a basic usb mouse driver |
| 05:40.29 | spinifex | it usually signs in if I open a browser to any page-- redirects to their login |
| 05:40.33 | jetscreamer | phat3 probably that, not sure |
| 05:40.47 | phat3 | hmm i wonder how i'd set it up for x |
| 05:40.58 | TheCat | I need ncurses libraries, but I try apt-get install ncurses and it says its not available |
| 05:41.09 | spinifex | add a source |
| 05:41.19 | jetscreamer | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:41.28 | streuner | TheCat: apt-get install libncures5-dev |
| 05:41.30 | TheCat | I have about 5 |
| 05:41.32 | jetscreamer | apt-get libncurses5-dev |
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| 05:41.39 | jetscreamer | or what streuner said |
| 05:41.51 | streuner | or what jetscreamer said |
| 05:41.52 | jetscreamer | or mix em up |
| 05:42.00 | jetscreamer | since we both fuxored it up |
| 05:42.06 | jetscreamer | apt-get install libncurses5-dev |
| 05:42.08 | TheCat | downloading now : ) |
| 05:42.11 | jetscreamer | would be correct |
| 05:42.50 | phat3 | hmm |
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| 05:42.57 | streuner | phat3: USB mouse? /msg dpkg usbmouse |
| 05:43.28 | TheCat | do you think I can run xconfig? If I'm going for better looking systems I think that one is even better : ) |
| 05:43.33 | phat3 | ty |
| 05:43.36 | jetscreamer | !!!___>s<TREUNER< |
| 05:43.49 | Sandman | How safe is it to place "commit=86400" @ options for an ext3 mount in fstab |
| 05:44.00 | Sandman | I do that so I can run noflushd |
| 05:44.08 | jetscreamer | TheCat, xconfig will need some additional packages as well, in my experience, and i don't remember what they were |
| 05:44.19 | TheCat | It says it can't find QT Installtion |
| 05:44.26 | jetscreamer | ok there's one |
| 05:44.29 | streuner | TheCat: for xconfig you need libqt-dev |
| 05:44.55 | loke | what is the xine command to play a song from command line without opening up the gui? |
| 05:45.00 | TheCat | wow |
| 05:45.05 | jetscreamer | i find menuconfi to be best, and i tried all 3, but ymmv |
| 05:45.05 | streuner | TheCat: /msg dpkg xconfig |
| 05:45.06 | TheCat | 50mb just for this, maybe I won't go that way |
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| 05:45.25 | jetscreamer | *g |
| 05:45.32 | loke | *g? |
| 05:46.08 | jetscreamer | i have to get up in 4.25 hrs and go to work :/ |
| 05:46.11 | loke | what is a good command line music player? |
| 05:46.16 | loke | xine? |
| 05:46.25 | jetscreamer | xine is dvd oriented isn't it? |
| 05:46.30 | jetscreamer | but should work? |
| 05:46.33 | loke | i dunno |
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| 05:46.36 | spinifex | mplayer, right? |
| 05:46.56 | jetscreamer | never used a cli for tunes |
| 05:47.00 | loke | jetscreamer how do i play a song with out the gui trying to open, cause i dont have x installed? |
| 05:47.00 | streuner | jetscreamer: you can play anything with xine, not only DVD's |
| 05:47.00 | jetscreamer | yet |
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| 05:47.16 | jetscreamer | loke w/xine it would seem |
| 05:47.19 | cahoot | loke: some prefer cplay |
| 05:47.22 | jetscreamer | or that |
| 05:47.35 | loke | cahoot is it good? |
| 05:47.45 | cahoot | loke: very |
| 05:47.46 | TheCat | how do I use apt to uninstall a package it installed? |
| 05:47.54 | loke | cahoot thanks for the tip |
| 05:48.04 | jetscreamer | apt-get remove (you can add --purge too) |
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| 05:48.26 | TheCat | wow, it took 50 mb of space to install this |
| 05:48.27 | jetscreamer | you *may* have to complete the install though, not sure |
| 05:48.37 | TheCat | and it says if I delete it it will save 77.8 jb |
| 05:48.42 | TheCat | kilobytes |
| 05:48.43 | cahoot | loke: apt-cache search/show player will drown you in info |
| 05:48.59 | sgeigerbot | xine does not play jpg files |
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| 05:49.26 | jetscreamer | it does .pcx though, right? |
| 05:49.32 | sgeigerbot | mplayer doesnt seem to either... I would have guess that you could use mplayer to do that... |
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| 05:50.01 | loke | cahoot when i try to play a song it says player not found? |
| 05:50.07 | sgeigerbot | Q3Man: Steve Jobs? |
| 05:50.16 | TheCat | uhhh gn |
| 05:51.05 | loke | cahoot what else do i need to install besides cplayer? |
| 05:51.17 | loke | s/cplayer/cplay |
| 05:52.26 | TheCat | here goes going to reboot and see if my shiny new kernel works |
| 05:52.29 | TheCat | wish me luck |
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| 05:52.57 | cahoot | loke: I'd expect debian to pull down dependencies automagically |
| 05:53.06 | deputydink | has anyone had success getting the LiS streams kernel module to compile in a stock woody ? |
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| 05:53.15 | loke | cahoot well it says player not found?? |
| 05:53.17 | WiFiTux | I just installed memtest86, I have no idea how to start it... |
| 05:53.17 | TheCat | actually |
| 05:53.21 | TheCat | I decided not to try |
| 05:53.30 | TheCat | I need to compile and install the kernel for that to work - duh |
| 05:53.47 | TheCat | I was having the Cannot Open root device error |
| 05:54.04 | TheCat | I just changed my config to put EXT3 support as install, rather than a mod |
| 05:54.06 | loke | cahoot what do you think? |
| 05:54.21 | TheCat | I use EXT3 on my root drive, do you think this will fix it? |
| 05:54.22 | WiFiTux | TheCat, shutup and try |
| 05:54.26 | cahoot | loke: what are you trying to play? ogg? mp3? |
| 05:54.46 | loke | mp3 |
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| 05:54.51 | robg | RAAAAAAWWWWRRR RAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWRRRR ruff ruff RAWRF |
| 05:54.53 | TheCat | WIfiTux, it would take 40 minutes to compile it then I have to install it |
| 05:55.10 | TheCat | about an hour to fix it, if there is anything else anyone thinks I should change to fix the problem then that would be good to do now |
| 05:55.18 | WiFiTux | TheCat, and? i takes 65 minutes in my debian router... |
| 05:55.41 | TheCat | Anyone? |
| 05:55.53 | cahoot | loke: the truth is cplay is just a frontend to players like mpg321 etc - see the README |
| 05:55.54 | WiFiTux | TheAsp, give jfs, ext3, dos, support bla bla |
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| 05:56.09 | TheCat | why the hostility? |
| 05:56.14 | WiFiTux | s/theasp/thecat |
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| 05:57.00 | WiFiTux | TheCat, no, hostility, there are hundreds of kernel options... |
| 05:57.02 | loke | cahoot so should i install mpg321? |
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| 05:57.15 | cahoot | loke: you try that |
| 05:57.38 | TheCat | just wondering if anyone else had encourted this and thought there was something else I should do to fix it |
| 05:58.18 | TheCat | beginning the compile now, thnx ppl |
| 05:58.19 | WiFiTux | TheCat, ok, yes we all had kind of like that, try in #debian-boot |
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| 06:00.38 | suzzi | any one handy with postfix? there doesnt seem to be any one on #postfix? I'm trying to get postfix to send email from user@domain instead of user@IP ? any one have any hints/clues? |
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| 06:02.27 | cahoot | suzzi: the main.cf used to be heavily commented - no use? |
| 06:04.16 | suzzi | cahoot: I thought I had everything set, would you happen to know what var it is? I have myhostname and myorigin ... all set to the domain but it seems to really like that IP? |
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| 06:04.46 | deputydink | suzzi - its mydomain isn't it? |
| 06:05.06 | suzzi | deputydink: I'll check again, but i though that i had that set, thanks |
| 06:05.13 | cahoot | suzzi: just a guess - /etc/hosts not including your host? |
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| 06:06.25 | suzzi | cahoot: thats what i though too. but thats all set |
| 06:07.37 | cahoot | suzzi: /var/log/mail.errors? |
| 06:11.04 | loke | cahoot it works |
| 06:11.13 | loke | cahoot i just needed mpg321 |
| 06:11.18 | spinifex | how do I install a .deb file? |
| 06:11.19 | loke | cahoot thanks |
| 06:11.31 | loke | spinifex dpkg -i file.deb |
| 06:11.45 | loke | spinifex man dpkg |
| 06:12.56 | spinifex | wow, that worked great. Thanks |
| 06:13.04 | loke | yw |
| 06:13.11 | numist | you mean man works? |
| 06:13.26 | loke | numist i think -i worked |
| 06:13.28 | numist | thats historically inaccurate, men dont work |
| 06:13.31 | numist | ah ok |
| 06:13.32 | spinifex | no, the install |
| 06:13.35 | numist | dpkg, on the othe hand |
| 06:13.35 | dpkg | numist: are you smoking crack? |
| 06:13.38 | loke | lol |
| 06:13.40 | numist | yes, yes I am |
| 06:13.46 | loke | numist is it good? |
| 06:13.51 | numist | not really |
| 06:13.54 | spinifex | uh, wtf |
| 06:14.03 | numist | omg pirates! |
| 06:14.12 | loke | numist you shouldnt smoke crack, youll lose your teeth |
| 06:14.13 | spinifex | Lynxs does not support HTTPS URLS |
| 06:14.27 | loke | lol |
| 06:14.30 | numist | spinifex: no, elinks does though |
| 06:14.30 | spinifex | er, crap |
| 06:14.38 | numist | apt-get install links |
| 06:14.40 | spinifex | aw, now I have to restart and get that instead |
| 06:14.47 | numist | erm... theres an encryption package or something |
| 06:14.48 | numist | restart? |
| 06:14.51 | loke | dude, my network setup at my house is so bad ass |
| 06:15.24 | loke | its so bad ass i dont even know where to begin |
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| 06:15.53 | numist | loke: I can relate |
| 06:16.05 | loke | what chu got? |
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| 06:16.22 | spinifex | how can he begin if he relates to your inability to begin? |
| 06:16.29 | loke | lol |
| 06:16.32 | loke | true dat |
| 06:16.39 | loke | spinifex i was testing him |
| 06:17.02 | loke | spinifex you blew my cover |
| 06:17.07 | loke | lol |
| 06:17.31 | numist | thank you spinifex |
| 06:17.34 | spinifex | but really though, what have you got that's so bad ass? |
| 06:18.00 | loke | spinifex its alot of shit |
| 06:18.29 | numist | loke: debian router routing to about 9 machines (only 5 mine) made out of lego, a machine with a TB of share over samba and nfs, a workstation, radio server, and windows box for the webcam action |
| 06:18.39 | loke | for starters, my T41 and my inspiron 9100 with 1 gig ram |
| 06:19.12 | numist | my workstation is a dual amd64 with 4GB ram and some significant disk |
| 06:19.14 | loke | i have my dell server, behing my 60' rca tv |
| 06:19.16 | numist | the rest really pale in comparison though... |
| 06:19.24 | numist | I could use a 60 foot rca tv |
| 06:19.37 | loke | i ssh into my dell server and cplay songs on my sony/bose am15 system |
| 06:19.46 | numist | heh |
| 06:20.00 | loke | the bose am15 system is a $1000 speaker system |
| 06:20.09 | loke | its fuckin sick |
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| 06:20.37 | opsix | <target name="jar" depends="javadoc" > |
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| 06:20.47 | loke | heh |
| 06:20.50 | opsix | doh |
| 06:20.58 | opsix | apolgies |
| 06:21.07 | loke | lol, np |
| 06:21.12 | loke | wrong shell? |
| 06:21.33 | spinifex | cripes, dependency problems.. |
| 06:22.42 | spinifex | meh, I'll fix it tomorrow |
| 06:23.06 | loke | numist you network sounds pretty sick |
| 06:23.08 | opsix | yep :o) |
| 06:23.41 | numist | loke: it works, I invested in headphones though... the 3 roommmates that USE *my* network dislike being blasted away by my stereo |
| 06:24.07 | numist | we had a stereo war in which I established my dominance already, so now I use headphones because there is no distinction between silent and deadly loud on it |
| 06:24.28 | numist | my roommate blew out his speakers in said stereo war... it got rather expensive for him rather quickly |
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| 06:25.07 | numist | wrong button? |
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| 06:27.23 | deliver | Moin |
| 06:27.32 | numist | no mine |
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| 06:27.44 | deliver | Guten Morgen |
| 06:27.52 | speaker | any remote access users- doing help desk support for Win 98 from a linux box |
| 06:28.13 | spinifex | can you do that? |
| 06:28.23 | numist | deliver: GUG |
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| 06:28.36 | loke | numist nice |
| 06:28.36 | cafuego | spinifex: Sure, vnc will do it. |
| 06:28.39 | numist | speaker: ping -f win98box? |
| 06:28.44 | deliver | Nur Mist, was ist GUG |
| 06:29.01 | numist | deliver: GUG ist "Generic UTC Greeting" |
| 06:29.05 | numist | not sure what it is in german |
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| 06:29.16 | deliver | Guckst Du RTL, Formel1 |
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| 06:30.23 | numist | deliver: #debian-de ? |
| 06:30.47 | deliver | Your name is in englisch: only shit, why do you use it? |
| 06:31.03 | numist | my name isnt in any language |
| 06:31.08 | numist | *shrug* |
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| 06:31.19 | cahoot | numist: you just don't know |
| 06:31.37 | numist | Im wondering what I do know at this point |
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| 06:31.42 | deliver | Take a look in "ding" type "nur" & "mist", |
| 06:32.25 | Joris | I want a sarge release *whine* |
| 06:32.31 | numist | shush you |
| 06:32.31 | speaker | ok if I use vnc how do I get the IP address of a broadband ADSL user behind a riuter |
| 06:32.44 | deliver | How can I put the fonts greater in Kvirc? |
| 06:32.50 | loke | speaker heh? |
| 06:33.08 | loke | riuter? |
| 06:33.11 | numist | speaker: port forwarding |
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| 06:33.15 | numist | loke: router |
| 06:33.20 | loke | duh |
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| 06:33.24 | speaker | <loke> OK got it |
| 06:33.39 | loke | speaker is it your box behind the router? |
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| 06:34.49 | speaker | yes mine is and the other users |
| 06:35.19 | loke | well you need to configure your router to foward whatever port to that box |
| 06:35.38 | loke | that box= the box behind the router |
| 06:35.48 | speaker | loke- is there a way they can go into the router setup and forward one of the ports with out to much trouble? |
| 06:35.59 | loke | yes |
| 06:36.01 | jkl | ugh.. vnc4 doesn't use Xt |
| 06:36.08 | loke | speaker what kinda router? |
| 06:36.22 | speaker | Westell |
| 06:36.32 | loke | im not familiar with it |
| 06:36.36 | loke | but it should be easy |
| 06:36.46 | loke | im not sure which port vnc uses |
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| 06:37.19 | jkl | loke: 5900 |
| 06:37.25 | loke | ok |
| 06:37.47 | loke | speaker so on you westell forward port 5900 to the box's ip behind the router |
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| 06:38.05 | loke | im getting sleepy |
| 06:38.09 | loke | night yalll |
| 06:38.16 | speaker | OK - loke - thanks |
| 06:38.20 | loke | np |
| 06:38.39 | jkl | what vnc client y'all using? |
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| 06:42.02 | deliver | @ |
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| 06:48.11 | TheCat | hi again all, still haveing problems with the VFS: Cannot open root device |
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| 06:49.39 | TheCat | anyone have any ideas? I set the config to enable EXT3 with no module |
| 06:49.55 | orangey_ | Hey guys! |
| 06:49.55 | orangey_ | a quick q: my acpi says that CPU throttling is "not supported" (/proc/acpi/processor/C000/throttling), but it *was* supported (and working handsomely) 2 days ago.. sup with that? |
| 06:50.01 | cafuego | Yes, also compile in support for ide/scsi and pick the correct device. |
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| 06:50.26 | Gnea | orangey_: sup with what? what kinda cpu/system is it? |
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| 06:51.00 | orangey_ | Gnea: It's a p3 1.2GHz |
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| 06:51.03 | Gnea | anyone familiar with printing and firefox? i'm trying to figure out where to set the MOZ_PRINTER_NAME variable |
| 06:51.16 | orangey_ | Gnea: But honestly, it worked 2 days ago, and nothing has been changed as far as I can tell : ) |
| 06:51.19 | Gnea | orangey_: desktop system? does the motherboard support throttling? |
| 06:51.23 | cafuego | Gnea: in .$SHELLrc? |
| 06:51.26 | drago | http://linux.israel.net/linuxgames/index.php |
| 06:51.29 | drago | linuxgames |
| 06:51.36 | numist | hiya Gnea |
| 06:51.42 | Gnea | cafuego: i'll give that a try |
| 06:51.50 | Gnea | numist: hello |
| 06:52.08 | Gnea | drago: what? |
| 06:52.10 | orangey_ | Gnea: So maybe I rebooted my system uncleanly, and the dreaded file corrupt happened : ) |
| 06:52.20 | orangey_ | Gnea: It supported it the day before yesterday. |
| 06:52.23 | orangey_ | it's a laptop |
| 06:52.26 | Gnea | orangey_: doubt it, you still haven't answered my question |
| 06:52.27 | Gnea | ah |
| 06:52.30 | Gnea | but |
| 06:52.33 | Gnea | WHAT laptop? :) |
| 06:52.42 | orangey_ | Gnea: Really.. I REALLY was using throttling until today. |
| 06:52.53 | drago | Gnea ? |
| 06:52.55 | Gnea | bah, forget it |
| 06:52.57 | orangey_ | and when I did a cat /proc/acpi/throttling , it didn't say "not supported" |
| 06:53.24 | orangey_ | it's a compaq evo |
| 06:53.24 | orangey_ | n600c |
| 06:53.24 | orangey_ | I'll answer all your questions, but I think you're barking up the wrong tree.. |
| 06:53.27 | Gnea | drago: what about the url? |
| 06:53.36 | drago | games for linux |
| 06:53.42 | drago | in israel |
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| 06:53.56 | Gnea | orangey_: hey, you're the one that came in here looking for help, so don't look a gifthorse in the mouth :P |
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| 06:54.07 | vhuren | I am trying to install the ipw2100-source package using apt-get on my machine running Testing |
| 06:54.12 | vhuren | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:54.33 | Gnea | orangey_: it would usually throttle the cpu when the battery level goes below a certain point, right? |
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| 06:55.02 | cafuego | Gnea: No, it throttles when cpu usage goes below a cetain level. |
| 06:55.02 | Gnea | vhuren: did you copy the deb http://... line to deb-src http://... ? |
| 06:55.15 | Gnea | ah ok |
| 06:55.29 | vhuren | gnea: yeah |
| 06:55.31 | cafuego | Gnea: Except you make 'powernowd' do it and stay away fro m/proc/acpi |
| 06:55.36 | vhuren | I made it to state unstable main |
| 06:55.40 | Gnea | orangey_: and what kernel is that? |
| 06:55.47 | vhuren | Gnea: should I change it to sarge? |
| 06:55.56 | Gnea | cafuego: hehe shows ya how much i know ;) |
| 06:56.02 | drago | Gnea how the site? |
| 06:56.06 | Gnea | vhuren: i wouldn't recommend sarge |
| 06:56.20 | Gnea | drago: it sucks ASS |
| 06:56.31 | Gnea | nobody can read that crap |
| 06:56.31 | drago | sucks? |
| 06:56.47 | vhuren | Gnea: unstable works fine right? |
| 06:56.47 | orangey_ | Gnea: No, I manually throttled it.. |
| 06:56.50 | Gnea | every isp should block it until someone does a proper translation :) |
| 06:56.53 | drago | ites in israel |
| 06:56.58 | orangey_ | Gnea: Actually, I had it throttled almost all the time to make my battery last longer. |
| 06:57.04 | Gnea | so? israelies can't read english? |
| 06:57.09 | drago | can |
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| 06:57.19 | Gnea | that's what i thought |
| 06:57.34 | garrett | soooo many RC bugs |
| 06:57.37 | drago | bat the target off the site is need to be for israel |
| 06:57.43 | orangey_ | the kernel is 2.6.8.1 |
| 06:57.50 | cafuego | drago: So why would we give a crap then? |
| 06:57.57 | Gnea | seriously, it should have an option to display in english |
| 06:57.59 | holycow | http://bash.org/?6804 <-- heh, those look familiar |
| 06:58.18 | drago | cafuego to tel me how the site loack |
| 06:58.20 | Gnea | drago: most decent non-english sites will have an english-option |
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| 06:58.44 | cafuego | drago: Like another slashdot clone, except from right to left |
| 06:58.53 | vhuren | does woody = unstable? |
| 06:58.54 | drago | yes you reite i need to find in the system off the site how to do it |
| 06:59.02 | Gnea | holycow: heh |
| 06:59.17 | Gnea | vhuren: no, woody = stable |
| 06:59.22 | Gnea | sid = unstable |
| 06:59.25 | Gnea | sarge = testing |
| 06:59.29 | vhuren | ahh.. |
| 06:59.36 | cafuego | drago: Apache supports hosting of multiple languages and picking the page to serve based on the user's language settings. |
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| 06:59.58 | Gnea | drago: that would be very cool, and it's just phpnuke so it can't be too difficult |
| 07:00.02 | vhuren | in my sources.list file I have deb ftp://mirror.cs.wisc.edu/pub/mirrors/linux/debian unstable main |
| 07:00.06 | vhuren | I did an apt-get update |
| 07:00.17 | vhuren | then I tried to do apt-get install ipw2100-source |
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| 07:00.31 | vhuren | and it says file isnt found even though its listed as a package for the unstable dist |
| 07:00.32 | rich_ | hi |
| 07:00.36 | Gnea | vhuren: you need to add this line below it: deb-src ftp://mirror.cs.wisc.edu/pub/mirrors/linux/debian unstable main |
| 07:00.39 | orangey_ | Gnea: No more ideas on that proc throttling? |
| 07:00.45 | Gnea | vhuren: then update, then apt-get source will work |
| 07:00.53 | vhuren | thanx gnea :) |
| 07:00.55 | Gnea | orangey_: nope |
| 07:00.56 | drago | Gnea i dot no wher i need to be |
| 07:01.17 | Gnea | drago: perhaps there is a module for phpnuke, have you tried their website? |
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| 07:02.14 | TheCat | caf, do you mean I should enable Generic PCI IDE Chipset Support (BLK_DEV_GENERIC)? |
| 07:02.18 | drago | yes bat i dont find |
| 07:02.26 | drago | can you help me to find |
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| 07:03.26 | Gnea | drago: http://phpnuke.org/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=41 |
| 07:03.40 | Gnea | drago: took me about 5 seconds to locate that |
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| 07:04.14 | drago | nice |
| 07:04.27 | Spongebob | Has anyone ever used the Transgaming software - is it any good? |
| 07:04.43 | Gnea | the one by sergids looks good |
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| 07:05.08 | cafuego | Spongebob: Cedega/ Yeah, woks fine here. I don't run anything but SimCity4 in it, though. |
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| 07:05.17 | orangey_ | hmmm. Is there anything that "disables" acpi features? i.e., turns off throttling because it thinks it's bad? |
| 07:05.17 | orangey_ | now that I think of it, the throttling stopped when I was exploring acpi suspend modes |
| 07:05.20 | Spongebob | hehehe cafuego :) |
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| 07:05.34 | Gnea | Spongebob: i've ran warcraft3 in cedega before, works great |
| 07:05.36 | cafuego | Spongebob: I haven't even tried running my spongebob game in it ;-) |
| 07:05.42 | drago | Gnea Calendar Event lang-italian.php ? |
| 07:05.42 | Spongebob | cafuego: u have to subscribe to it tho dont u? |
| 07:05.46 | Gnea | cafuego: ROFL |
| 07:05.47 | Spongebob | hehe |
| 07:05.49 | cafuego | Spongebob: Nah |
| 07:05.52 | Gnea | drago: no, the second one |
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| 07:06.15 | Spongebob | i just got out of hospital - lousey appendix - so i got a bit of time to waste |
| 07:06.15 | cafuego | You have to catch hamburger ingredients and make burgers |
| 07:06.19 | Spongebob | and was reading up on some stuff |
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| 07:06.28 | drago | 404 |
| 07:06.32 | drago | not find |
| 07:06.35 | Gnea | er |
| 07:06.39 | drago | i donload the 3 |
| 07:06.59 | cafuego | Spongebob: I recommend morphine |
| 07:07.09 | cafuego | Spongebob: It'll be next week before you know it. |
| 07:07.34 | TheCat | caf, do you mean I should enable Generic PCI IDE Chipset Support (BLK_DEV_GENERIC)? |
| 07:07.47 | Spongebob | cafuego: ive had heaps of that jolly good stuff already |
| 07:07.49 | drago | Gnea 404 in the 3 |
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| 07:08.15 | Spongebob | had to laugh, i had the op and woke up in recovery and i asked if they did the operation yet |
| 07:08.19 | cafuego | TheCat: IDE dik support and support for your ide controller. |
| 07:08.19 | Spongebob | couldnt remember a thing |
| 07:08.19 | Spongebob | hahaha |
| 07:08.44 | Gnea | drago: yeah, looks like it's down... maybe google has the answer |
| 07:09.02 | Spongebob | cafuego: so is there a debian apt package for this winex thingy? |
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| 07:09.26 | cafuego | Spongebob: Yeah, the cocktail is great. Though I've heard some stories of it not working; the pain killing part worked fine, but the memory suppressants and comatose bits didn't work. |
| 07:09.27 | drago | whet you sarech ? |
| 07:09.43 | TheCat | caf, where in the xconfig are those listed? I've been looking for a few minutes now with no lcuk... |
| 07:10.03 | cafuego | Spongebob: There is indeed a winex3.deb and a cedega4.deb, yes. |
| 07:10.04 | Spongebob | cafuego: heh its allways good when u wake up to sexy nurses looking after u in nice skirts n stuff too :) |
| 07:10.04 | Gnea | damn, everyone's drunk/high tonite it seems |
| 07:10.07 | Gnea | 'cept me lol |
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| 07:10.20 | donno459 | is there a way to limit the amount of bandwith apt-get uses |
| 07:10.40 | cafuego | Spongebob: My nurse was a guy with a lot of tattoos, not sure that qualifies as sexy. |
| 07:11.40 | Spongebob | shit eh cafuego? :P i had sexy wimen lookin after me |
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| 07:12.38 | Gnea | drago: can't find it.. try asking in #phpnuke |
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| 07:13.14 | marejava | jok3r: hi |
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| 07:13.37 | Spongebob | cafuego: is the winex3 and cadega4 debs provided by apt by any chance? |
| 07:14.06 | Gnea | Spongebob: they are not easily obtainable. you must look/ask elsewhere. |
| 07:14.09 | marejava | jok3r: do u knows nk?! |
| 07:14.14 | cafuego | Spongebob: nope... |
| 07:14.18 | Spongebob | hmm |
| 07:14.32 | Spongebob | warez eh :P |
| 07:14.50 | cafuego | Spongebob: No, the source is GPL afaik, except for certain copyprotection bits |
| 07:14.51 | drago | Gnea onle 3 man |
| 07:14.53 | drago | lol |
| 07:14.59 | Spongebob | heh |
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| 07:15.15 | Spongebob | i like how people can hack a bit of GPL code then put a price tag on it |
| 07:15.21 | Spongebob | then threaten to sue people n stuff |
| 07:15.23 | Spongebob | heh |
| 07:15.45 | Gnea | drago: damn.. :) |
| 07:15.50 | j0k3r | marejava: ?? nk ?? |
| 07:16.01 | Gnea | Spongebob: you LIKE it? you are a sick and twisted.. oh wait, nevermind.. ;) |
| 07:16.03 | rich_ | I guess it depends on where you live, but here, you can sue all you want |
| 07:16.09 | Spongebob | hehehe |
| 07:16.14 | Gnea | :) |
| 07:16.15 | drago | Gnea |
| 07:16.16 | drago | Sorry, but this interactive crossword puzzle requires Internet Explorer 5 or later for hall of fame functionality. |
| 07:16.16 | drago | Now, java version will be loaded... |
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| 07:16.22 | Spongebob | Gnea: what do u expect - i live in a pineapple down under teh sea |
| 07:16.22 | Spongebob | heh |
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| 07:16.25 | drago | i on debin |
| 07:16.34 | drago | how i install java |
| 07:16.45 | marejava | jok3r: nk is a nick name |
| 07:16.48 | numist | I used to know.. now I want to know again, drago |
| 07:16.52 | Gnea | !tell drago about java |
| 07:16.54 | numist | I could never make it work right |
| 07:16.59 | numist | !tell numist about java |
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| 07:17.24 | cafuego | Spongebob: Queensland, eh? |
| 07:17.30 | drago | Gnea my engles is bad |
| 07:17.33 | j0k3r | marejava: hmmm... never saw him/her |
| 07:17.46 | j0k3r | why ? |
| 07:17.51 | drago | !tall drago install java |
| 07:18.05 | marejava | jok3r: ok |
| 07:18.06 | Spongebob | cafuego: not quite :P - perth |
| 07:18.06 | numist | useful little fuck |
| 07:18.08 | Spongebob | WA |
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| 07:18.29 | cafuego | Spongebob: I'm sure pineapples are banned there ;-) |
| 07:18.50 | numist | !tell drago install java |
| 07:18.52 | Spongebob | yeh - keep it down |
| 07:18.53 | Spongebob | heh |
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| 07:19.04 | drago | !tell drago install java |
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| 07:19.06 | marejava | jok3r: i have confuse you with with other... |
| 07:19.18 | drago | <dpkg> No, drago, I won't. (target invalid?) |
| 07:19.26 | numist | drago: try /msg dpkg install java |
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| 07:19.30 | numist | worked for me |
| 07:19.48 | donno459 | is there a way to limit the amount of bandwith apt-get uses |
| 07:20.14 | marejava | jok3r: :0 |
| 07:20.25 | cafuego | donno459: Yes. If you run it with /var/cache on a really slow hdd. |
| 07:20.42 | donno459 | k |
| 07:21.32 | j0k3r | marejava: hmmm... there are some other people using this nick (j0k3r) at other networks |
| 07:21.33 | numist | cafuego: nice |
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| 07:22.21 | marejava | jok3r: yes, it is a nice nick! |
| 07:22.45 | marejava | jok3r: :) |
| 07:24.59 | j0k3r | marejava: but i use it almost 7 years... |
| 07:25.23 | Spongebob | urgh too much playing gnome-mahjong :( |
| 07:26.00 | holycow | Spongebob, if you have an ogl vid card, try never ball |
| 07:26.03 | holycow | super addictive |
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| 07:27.01 | Spongebob | ogl? |
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| 07:27.19 | garrett | hey, i just installed nfs-kernel-server and started it but when i try to connect to my box from a network computer i get "No response-type errors." Any clue why? |
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| 07:27.26 | marejava | jok3r: where are u from? |
| 07:27.28 | Spongebob | bit slow today mate - care to un-abbreviate? |
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| 07:28.11 | cafuego | Spongebob: I think he means opengl |
| 07:28.16 | theturtle | hey |
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| 07:28.39 | Spongebob | ohhh |
| 07:28.42 | j0k3r | marejava: brazil... and you ? |
| 07:28.50 | Spongebob | neverball aye |
| 07:28.54 | Spongebob | i must have a look |
| 07:28.55 | Spongebob | :P |
| 07:29.10 | theturtle | what options do i have on debian for encrypted file systems? |
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| 07:29.35 | try_catch_this | what do you use for remote desktop connections in linux? |
| 07:29.46 | theturtle | vnc |
| 07:29.49 | marejava | jok3r: i'm from italy, but don't like berlusconi at all! |
| 07:29.54 | cafuego | theturtle: whatever the kernel supports. |
| 07:29.58 | j0k3r | marejava: heheheh |
| 07:30.07 | theturtle | ok cafuego |
| 07:30.16 | Spongebob | well michael schumaker is screwed |
| 07:30.17 | try_catch_this | does vnc transfer a screenshot |
| 07:30.24 | Spongebob | no way he gonna catch up now |
| 07:30.25 | Spongebob | :/ |
| 07:30.30 | try_catch_this | or does it actually run the programs? |
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| 07:30.51 | j0k3r | marejava: my gand-grand-fathers (both sides of family) were italian |
| 07:31.04 | theturtle | all the "programs" are run on the server |
| 07:31.16 | j0k3r | marejava: i am trying to learn italian |
| 07:31.24 | Gnea | argh |
| 07:31.32 | Gnea | cafuego: it didn't work (printing) |
| 07:31.57 | theturtle | vnc doesn't do anything but establish the connection between the client and server and allow you to control the machine remotely |
| 07:31.57 | try_catch_this | so if they run on the server, how do you interact with them? |
| 07:31.58 | cafuego | Spongebob: channel 10? |
| 07:31.59 | marejava | jok3r: bene, quando vieni a trovarmi? |
| 07:32.08 | marejava | :) |
| 07:32.21 | Spongebob | cafuego: yeh |
| 07:32.21 | Gnea | aaah |
| 07:32.23 | Gnea | there it goes... |
| 07:32.24 | vhuren | what kernel does unstable use |
| 07:32.24 | vhuren | ? |
| 07:32.37 | Spongebob | last lap of chinese F1 Grandprix |
| 07:32.40 | marejava | jok3r: :) |
| 07:32.44 | Gnea | i had to get rid of the {MOZ_PRINTER_NAME+[-P]} |
| 07:32.48 | theturtle | try_catch_this what are you getting at? |
| 07:32.49 | cafuego | ugh, they're broadcasting in 4:3 |
| 07:32.53 | j0k3r | hmmm... io no parlo molto bene |
| 07:32.56 | Spongebob | yes |
| 07:33.04 | cafuego | great! |
| 07:33.05 | Spongebob | wow, barrichello wins |
| 07:33.09 | Gnea | and it prints right. SHWEET! |
| 07:33.21 | Gnea | ok, now for the evolution print test... |
| 07:33.26 | theturtle | the vnc program would just be another window in your client os |
| 07:33.46 | marejava | jok3r: se passi da queste parti di do lezioni pratiche :) |
| 07:33.56 | marejava | jok3r: hehehe |
| 07:33.58 | garrett | hey, how do i share my files with an OS X box on the same router? |
| 07:34.03 | try_catch_this | I want to be able to see the other computers desktop as if I am actually there |
| 07:34.08 | try_catch_this | this will be over an lan |
| 07:34.18 | cafuego | garrett: nfs or samba |
| 07:34.22 | try_catch_this | I wonder how much bandwith this will consume |
| 07:34.28 | marejava | jok3r: io vivo a salerno, sud di napoli, 60 km... |
| 07:34.52 | try_catch_this | nfs seems to be hard to setup with out a gui to ease the process for me |
| 07:35.08 | marejava | jok3r: i live in salerno, sud of naples, 60 km... |
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| 07:35.10 | cafuego | try_catch_this: Oh bullshit, just edit /etc/exports |
| 07:35.18 | simonrvn | "south of" |
| 07:35.46 | garrett | cafuego, i have nfs-kernel-server (i enabled nfs server in the kernel) and i started the services (/etc/init.d/nfs...) but for some reason when the os x box tries to connect to my box it gets "no response" .... what should i do? |
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| 07:36.13 | simonrvn | garrett: set up an export? |
| 07:36.14 | j0k3r | marejava: ok i understand all what you say, but i dont know haw to speak ... |
| 07:36.23 | Spongebob | mmm |
| 07:36.31 | Spongebob | i better read up on how cedega works lol |
| 07:36.35 | cafuego | garrett: make sure the portmapper is running on both boxes; it's not being firewalled. |
| 07:36.40 | garrett | simonrvn, i have this in /etc/exports /home/garrett/music 192.168.1.101(ro,async) |
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| 07:36.49 | try_catch_this | cafuego: how old are you? |
| 07:36.49 | cafuego | Spongebob: cedega /mnt/cdrom/setup.ee |
| 07:36.58 | Spongebob | ahh |
| 07:37.02 | cafuego | try_catch_this: Probably about twice your age. |
| 07:37.04 | Spongebob | what if its already installed |
| 07:37.06 | simonrvn | garrett: not denied in /etc/hosts.deny? packet filtering? |
| 07:37.18 | cafuego | Spongebob: cedega /path/to/game.exe |
| 07:37.18 | vhuren | can someone point me into the right direction to upgrade from testing branch to the unstable branch? |
| 07:37.18 | try_catch_this | I ask because I wonder how long you have been using computers |
| 07:37.22 | Spongebob | mmm |
| 07:37.26 | try_catch_this | that explains alot |
| 07:37.28 | Spongebob | lets have a try eh :P |
| 07:37.34 | Spongebob | see if i can crash vmware |
| 07:37.34 | Spongebob | hehe |
| 07:37.43 | simonrvn | garrett: btw, you might want to increase the read and write buffers |
| 07:37.45 | cafuego | try_catch_this: Using computers has nothing to do with being abe to read documentation. |
| 07:37.46 | garrett | simonrvn, i have portmap:ALL in hosts.deny, but i have portmap: 192.168.1.101 in hosts.allow |
| 07:37.48 | marejava | jok3r: well, if sometime you want improve your italian i can help y! |
| 07:37.52 | simonrvn | ok |
| 07:38.07 | simonrvn | check the stuff cafuego mentioned too |
| 07:38.08 | garrett | simonrvn, and packet filtering...are you asking about the kernel option? |
| 07:38.08 | marejava | jok3r: :) |
| 07:38.13 | cafuego | try_catch_this: "/mnt/mountpoint client_hostname_or_ip(rw,no_root_squash) |
| 07:38.16 | j0k3r | marejava: my dad's family cames from napoli(nona) and calabria (nono), and my mom's family cames from sicilia (nono) and calabria (nona) |
| 07:38.19 | simonrvn | no, "firewall" |
| 07:38.24 | cafuego | try_catch_this: There's yer /etc/exports line |
| 07:38.54 | j0k3r | marejava: i know a have some cousins at sicilia, but i donk have any contact with them... |
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| 07:39.41 | marejava | jok3r: ok |
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| 07:40.05 | Gnea | roger houstan, we are go for printing. repeat, we are GO FOR PRINTING!! |
| 07:40.13 | garrett | cafuego, 25319 ? Ss 0:00 /sbin/portmap...is this good enough? |
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| 07:40.21 | Gnea | copy that, scanning is working perfectly. |
| 07:40.24 | cafuego | garrett: Yeah |
| 07:40.33 | marejava | jok3r: i olso have cousin in us but don't have contacts... :( |
| 07:40.40 | garrett | cafuego, hm...brb i'll check if the os x box has portmapper running |
| 07:40.44 | cafuego | ooh, Radeon9200SE for $90 |
| 07:40.58 | orangey | Hey! I'm having an issue with my CPU Throttling.. Whereas it was working in 2.6.8 2 days ago (and I was throttling successfully), today it is not working, and /proc/acpi/processor/C000/throtting shows "<not supported>"; I have a compaq n600c laptop |
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| 07:41.14 | orangey | any ideas what may be up? |
| 07:41.29 | simonrvn | is this what i think it is? (that being 'hotplug' CPUs) "Dynamic Processor Deallocation" |
| 07:41.48 | marejava | jok3r: now i gonae, see you next time, bye |
| 07:41.51 | cafuego | simonrvn: Be handy to swap a faulty one without rebooting eh |
| 07:41.59 | simonrvn | eyup :) |
| 07:42.06 | cafuego | simonrvn: though admittedly not too useful on single cpu boxes |
| 07:42.08 | simonrvn | http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserver/pseries/hardware/highend/p690.html |
| 07:42.14 | simonrvn | hehe |
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| 07:42.48 | j0k3r | marejava: ciao |
| 07:43.17 | simonrvn | Up to 1TB of ECC Chipkill system memory |
| 07:43.22 | simonrvn | *drool* |
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| 07:43.57 | garrett | cafuego, so the portmapper has to be running on both boxes? |
| 07:44.08 | cafuego | garrett: As far as I know, yes. |
| 07:44.08 | zinx | cafuego: probably based on different cores |
| 07:44.19 | zinx | cafuego: so, probably quite a bit. |
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| 07:45.03 | cafuego | zinx: Well, a 9550TD is more expensive than a 9600SE |
| 07:45.31 | vhuren | can someone point me into the right direction to upgrade from testing branch to the unstable branch? |
| 07:45.37 | zinx | cafuego: it may well be for a good reason |
| 07:45.38 | garrett | cafuego, oh yeah, how do i increase the size of the read/write buffers? |
| 07:45.45 | zinx | cafuego: ATI names their cards very strangely |
| 07:45.52 | cafuego | garrett: mount options on the client box. |
| 07:45.57 | Ghido | hi, i installed a debian woody on a new machine, and upgraded it. now i want to upgrade kde to the latest stable version and also uninstall all gnome packages less the ones which occurs for some apps as xchat. is it possible, and howto? |
| 07:46.00 | cafuego | zinx: yes, they do. |
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| 07:46.20 | ix | vhuren: sed -i -e 's/testing/unstable/' /etc/apt/sources.list && apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 07:46.39 | Spongebob | mm |
| 07:46.41 | vhuren | ix: is there a howto or something that provide further detail? :) |
| 07:46.51 | csy | anyone any experience with any qmail installers? |
| 07:47.07 | csy | or know of any that will install qmail+sendmail |
| 07:47.18 | cafuego | csy: You can't have both. |
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| 07:47.28 | csy | i meant / :x |
| 07:47.28 | cafuego | csy: But postfix is a good replcement. |
| 07:47.30 | garrett | cafuego, but a line like /path/to/share (ro, async) in /etc/exports should be enough, right? |
| 07:47.45 | garrett | cafuego, should i just leave hosts.allow and hosts.deny blank? |
| 07:47.54 | cafuego | garrett: No, you'll need a hostnme in exports too. |
| 07:47.57 | csy | basically, what would u suggest cafuego for smtp & pop3 |
| 07:48.06 | cafuego | csy: postfix+courier |
| 07:48.28 | Spongebob | mmm |
| 07:48.36 | Spongebob | i use Qmail + Vpopmail |
| 07:48.37 | Spongebob | :) |
| 07:48.41 | csy | do you know of any scripts out there that preinstall postfix+courier? |
| 07:48.49 | csy | or qmail+vpopmail |
| 07:48.54 | orangey | can cpufreqd and throttling be used simultaneously? |
| 07:48.57 | cafuego | csy: apt-get install postfix-courier-pop3d |
| 07:49.01 | garrett | cafuego, how about a line like: /path/to/share 192.168.1.101(ro,async) ? |
| 07:49.03 | cafuego | csy: apt-get install postfix courier-pop3d |
| 07:49.12 | cafuego | garrett: That looks OK. |
| 07:49.17 | csy | haha nice.. :$ |
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| 07:49.35 | garrett | cafuego, and then i can leave hosts.allow and hosts.deny empty? |
| 07:50.10 | garrett | cafuego, and then the client box, on os x, how do they connect to my nfs server (an os x question sorry, but if you know please do tell)? |
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| 07:50.14 | cafuego | garrett: yep |
| 07:50.37 | cafuego | garrett: You can simply mount the nfs share on th OSX box. |
| 07:50.53 | Spongebob | hehe cafuego ur on fire today mate |
| 07:50.56 | simonrvn | i'd leave the hosts.(deny|allow) stuff there for backup/layered security |
| 07:51.08 | cafuego | garrett: Make a /mnt/share directory, then "mount -t nfs 192.168.0.1:/path/to/share /mnt/share" |
| 07:51.17 | garrett | cool |
| 07:51.18 | garrett | thanks |
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| 07:51.38 | cafuego | garrett: You can check 'man mount' under the 'nfs' section for additional options. |
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| 07:52.07 | garrett | cafuego, could i put that into /etc/fstab with some automount option to have it mount every time? |
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| 07:52.33 | Spongebob | heh |
| 07:52.43 | cafuego | and a 16K wsize/rsize fr better performnce over 100Mbit |
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| 07:53.02 | cafuego | garrett: You cna add it to /etc/fstab , yes. |
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| 07:54.28 | vhuren | does unstable has the option to get security updates? I mean like in sources.list file I've put "deb http://security.debian.org/ unstable/updates main" instead of it being testing/updates main |
| 07:54.36 | cafuego | vhuren: no |
| 07:54.40 | vhuren | this gives me an error when I perform an apt-get update |
| 07:54.55 | vhuren | cafuego: then I would have to manually do all security updates? |
| 07:54.59 | cartman | vhuren: you dont need that line for unstable |
| 07:55.01 | cafuego | vhuren: No. |
| 07:55.02 | The_Vulture | vhuren: there are no security updates for sid.. |
| 07:55.14 | cafuego | vhuren: they go directly into 'main' for sid. |
| 07:55.33 | potemkin | OT: where can I change file type -> plugin associations in firefox? |
| 07:55.42 | Ghido | hi, i installed a debian woody on a new machine, and upgraded it. now i want to upgrade kde to the latest stable version and also uninstall all gnome packages less the ones which occurs for some apps as xchat. |
| 07:56.16 | vhuren | thanx cafuego :) |
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| 07:56.23 | cafuego | potemkin: Edit->Pref->Downloads->Plug-ins |
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| 07:57.58 | potemkin | cafuego, AARGH, thank you |
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| 07:58.22 | youssef | hello |
| 07:58.24 | Spongebob | heh aargh thankyous are rare :P |
| 07:58.40 | rotmos | i have somehow enabled ipv6 on my interface is there a way to get rid of that witout a reboot? |
| 07:58.45 | cafuego | Spongebob: I tend to get them quite often when I decide to let a victim go... |
| 07:58.54 | cafuego | rotmos: Nope. |
| 07:58.56 | Spongebob | lol cafuego |
| 07:59.00 | youssef | I am trying to install a new kernel. And now I have problems.# lilo |
| 07:59.00 | youssef | Fatal: open /initrd.img: No such file or directory |
| 07:59.04 | Spongebob | rotmos: not without a reboot |
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| 07:59.11 | mhmdr | i am new to linux - i want to copy a folder from usb-stick to home directory - but it is not possible without rootmode - in root-shell i dont know the command - does anyone know the command (maybe like that: copy /sda1/folder to /home) or so? |
| 07:59.48 | cafuego | mhmdr: mout the usb stick, copy the data from the mount to your homedir; then unmount. |
| 07:59.49 | si|vercat | mhmdr, cp |
| 08:00.08 | website | mhmdr, cp -fr /sda1/folder /home |
| 08:00.17 | doleyb | mhmdr: cp -r /sda1/folder /home/your_username |
| 08:00.17 | website | mhmdr, do this afther mounting |
| 08:00.32 | potemkin | Spongebob, aargh for the paradigm clash between my head and the firefox gui designers, thanks is for resolving the clash:) |
| 08:00.33 | Spongebob | mm |
| 08:00.34 | mhmdr | thank u, i try |
| 08:00.43 | Spongebob | heheh potemkin |
| 08:00.47 | peterrooney | mhmdr: if you are new to linux, try 'apropos' followed by what you might like to do, eg 'apropos copy' |
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| 08:00.58 | youssef | solved |
| 08:01.15 | doleyb | mhmdr: after that, do "chmod -R your_username:your_username /home/your_username/folder" |
| 08:01.31 | si|vercat | anyone know a lot about alsa? |
| 08:01.32 | doleyb | mhmdr: I meant "chown", not "chmod" in that command |
| 08:01.54 | Spongebob | oh man my stomach hurts so much |
| 08:01.57 | Spongebob | stupid appendix |
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| 08:02.54 | peterrooney | mhmdr: a newcomer's two best commandline friends are "man man" and "info info" |
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| 08:03.48 | phillip | I'm having a problem with openoffice.org on debian...Version is 1.1.2...The spell check won't find any misspellings...Even when I purposely misspell words. |
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| 08:04.07 | gordonjcp | mhmdr: www.tldp.org <- the linux documentation project. There are some HOWTOs like DOS-Windows-Linux-HOWTO |
| 08:04.21 | gordonjcp | they compare the different commands and their Linux counterparts |
| 08:04.24 | Spongebob | phillip: have u turned off the spell checking feature? |
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| 08:05.09 | cahoot | phillip: american spellchecker ? ;) |
| 08:05.20 | phillip | I have autocheck enabled...Even when I launch the spellchecker it doesn't find the error. |
| 08:05.38 | phillip | yes, american |
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| 08:06.20 | gordonjcp | phillip: start openoffice from a command-line, and watch for any messages as it starts up |
| 08:06.29 | gordonjcp | it may not be finding the dictionary |
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| 08:07.09 | spinifex | how do I get debian to turn off my computer when I shutdown? |
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| 08:08.00 | vietamine | hi all |
| 08:08.24 | spinifex | I've tried various shutdown options, but regardless it gives me a prompt like this: "Press ctrl-D to continue or type admin password for recovery" (not exact words) |
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| 08:08.51 | phillip | It says something about Xlib connection refused by server...The same thing it says everytime I try to launch a gui program from the command line. |
| 08:09.07 | vietamine | i've installed vsftpd on debian testing with apt-get, but cannot log in |
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| 08:09.09 | gordonjcp | spinifex: is that when you boot up? |
| 08:09.14 | vietamine | each time, i got : login incorrect |
| 08:09.16 | spinifex | no, when I shutdown |
| 08:09.23 | gordonjcp | hm |
| 08:09.31 | cahoot | phillip: running apps as root in users X? |
| 08:09.34 | gordonjcp | that sounds like a startup-y thing |
| 08:09.35 | si|vercat | whats a good firewall maker/configurator for X? |
| 08:09.38 | nwo | where in KDE can zou setup multiple monitors? [so that I can part my 2048x screen in two screens] |
| 08:09.47 | spinifex | It does this on both of my computers, on both sarge and woody |
| 08:09.52 | gordonjcp | si|vercat: I'm not sure that there is one |
| 08:09.55 | OhMyAchinLap | silvercat, firestarter |
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| 08:10.05 | gordonjcp | spinifex: something is definitely wrong. What are you doing to shut them down? |
| 08:10.12 | OhMyAchinLap | its a frontend for iptables |
| 08:10.12 | spinifex | pressing ctrl-D starts it up again... but it's not at a low enough level to just turn off |
| 08:10.15 | gordonjcp | OhMyAchinLap: oh, there is? Cool |
| 08:10.21 | OhMyAchinLap | there are several actually |
| 08:10.25 | spinifex | I'm saying "shutdown now" most times. I tried a few other options |
| 08:10.29 | si|vercat | I've heard of guarddog |
| 08:10.30 | si|vercat | :P |
| 08:10.32 | OhMyAchinLap | i forget the other one that i downloaded.. |
| 08:10.37 | OhMyAchinLap | guarddog was it ;) |
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| 08:10.39 | gordonjcp | OhMyAchinLap: I've always thought that they'd be a PITA to use |
| 08:10.45 | OhMyAchinLap | i use firestarter daily |
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| 08:11.08 | marejava | :)/exit |
| 08:11.10 | OhMyAchinLap | i don't see why, its pretty painless. works like any other GUI firewall |
| 08:11.20 | phillip | Ahh...That was it...That terminal was logged in as root...Launched as user it doesn't display any errors...It just opens the program. |
| 08:11.29 | OhMyAchinLap | and i haven't bothered learning enough to configure iptables by hand, so its helpful |
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| 08:11.42 | unlock | whats the best way to install dis? just install a testing with net install then update to sid? really cant find any info |
| 08:12.00 | unlock | install sid |
| 08:12.06 | holycow | they seem to have edited a lot of the bootup scripts... now they have ok/failed like rh |
| 08:12.08 | spinifex | so I usually end up using reboot and then turning it off when it starts to start up again |
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| 08:12.54 | spinifex | turning it off when it's at the ctrl-D prompt makes it want to check the disk for errors, I believe.. doesn't seem a good idea |
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| 08:13.09 | anymous | hello, digikam only displays broken thumbnails, I've increased the max file size in konq, deleted ~/.thumbnails directory and installed imlib2, nothing helped. this is under sarge (kde 3.2.3, digikam 0.6.2). it worked before, but there have been too many updates since. is there a problem known with digikam under debian? |
| 08:13.12 | peterrooney | spinifex: are you saying that "shutdown -h now" reboots the machine and brings you to console login? |
| 08:14.26 | spinifex | I tried shutdown -hPt now. It says 'waking up' a bunch of 'threads' and then gives me the prompt I said before... |
| 08:14.31 | spinifex | not a login prompt |
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| 08:15.27 | [Jean] | helo there |
| 08:15.27 | Stevie-O | 250 Stevie-O |
| 08:15.33 | potemkin | unlock, do sarge netinstall, then dist-upgrade to sid |
| 08:15.52 | gordonjcp | spinifex: "waking up md recovery threads"? That's something to do with software raid |
| 08:16.48 | try_catch_this | there a tool I can use to automate the process of upgrading installing and synchronising deb files on multiple machines? |
| 08:17.12 | UberNeiztichian | ok, this is mostlikly the wrong place to ask, but does any one know if HP pavilions use standard power supplies? |
| 08:17.38 | unlock | potemkin: thanks |
| 08:17.48 | spinifex | it says "the system is going down for halt NOW. md: recovery thread got woken up... md: recovery thread finished ... md: stopping all md devices. flushing ide devices: hda hdb hdc hdd Power down. (and then it doesn't turn off... uh... hmm, well, this is better than before) |
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| 08:18.14 | gordonjcp | spinifex: well... that's kind of what it's supposed to do |
| 08:18.21 | gordonjcp | have you got apm or acpi support? |
| 08:18.43 | [Jean] | i downloaded debian debian-30r2-i386-binary-1.iso (FTP) the download has completed on 309Mb but on the FTP it's size is 600Mb, the iso is woring i can open ot and browse it so i wanna know if everything is normal and the ditro will work if i install it |
| 08:18.46 | spinifex | I think so. Lemme try it on my laptop.. |
| 08:19.00 | spinifex | er, I'll do it with an old kernel and see if it works on my desktop |
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| 08:20.51 | csy | ok. i've installed postfix & courier on my server, shud it not as default work on outlook? |
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| 08:21.09 | Dark | Hello! How to set up gprs in Debian Sarge? |
| 08:21.15 | spinifex | nope, still doesn't power off.. |
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| 08:22.02 | Dark | USB-modem (motorola c350) do'not working ........ device not found |
| 08:22.53 | potemkin | spinifex, `doing it with an old kernel' is not representative. The kernel is the issue |
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| 08:23.57 | vietamine | plz, someone deals with vsftpd on debian ? |
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| 08:24.28 | localuser | what is "NULLFS" ? |
| 08:24.43 | Kidgeon | what is "NULLFS" ? |
| 08:24.45 | oskie | is it true that writes using write(2) cannot EOF!? |
| 08:25.03 | ecliptik | anyone know anything about yahoo's chat interface? Such as in building a bot? |
| 08:25.17 | Dark | òóò ïî ðóññêè ãîâîðÿò? |
| 08:25.22 | Kidgeon | I don't see a manpage for either nullfs or umapfs. |
| 08:25.27 | Kidgeon | Why is this ? |
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| 08:26.08 | MerlinCorey | ecliptik: in what language..? |
| 08:26.10 | Kidgeon | ah ok nullfs is just another word for loopback |
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| 08:27.03 | ecliptik | MarlinCorey, it doesn't matter really, I was just interested in some tips on interfacing, any tricks or good sites to check out for more info |
| 08:27.23 | MerlinCorey | ecliptik: and all I'm going to tell you is, "Checking out what gAIM, et al, does is too difficult?" |
| 08:28.00 | ecliptik | MarlinCorey, does the yahoo IM protocal work the same for their chatrooms? |
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| 08:28.38 | MerlinCorey | ecliptik: I don't know... I've never bothered to investigate, but if gAim can get on yahoo chatrooms, then you'll likely find out within gAim... |
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| 08:29.10 | ecliptik | MarlinCorey, alrite coo, thanks for the tip |
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| 08:29.33 | ecliptik | I just realized that almost every person in their chatrooms are bots so I thought it be fun to build my own |
| 08:30.16 | MerlinCorey | if socket programming and protocol deciphering are your things, I guess... |
| 08:31.33 | MerlinCorey | ooooh, they're pasting VB.Net functions... |
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| 08:33.14 | ecliptik | haha, awesome |
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| 08:33.39 | ecliptik | anyone have any good ideas on where to go when you're drunk and have a lot of computer knowledge? |
| 08:34.18 | MerlinCorey | ecliptik: certain IRC channels are fun... |
| 08:34.33 | rich_ | Eclipser texas |
| 08:34.49 | rich_ | sorry i mean ecliptik |
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| 08:35.17 | MerlinCorey | cool, they're giving lessons on what the bios is now... |
| 08:35.38 | x0x_technoboy_x0 | lmao |
| 08:36.07 | jala | Hello! |
| 08:36.12 | x0x_technoboy_x0 | have they already covered the keyboard and mouse.. and the class where they tell ya what a floppy disc is? |
| 08:36.12 | simonrvn | MerlinCorey: an old tech that should die off? ;) |
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| 08:36.55 | jala | How can I get 3D acceleration with ATI Rage 128, ASUS CUSL2-C, debian sarge? |
| 08:36.59 | MerlinCorey | simonrvn: no, they're just like pasting from whatis.com it looks like... |
| 08:37.02 | Abnix | ugh....I just know this is going to break sooooo much stuff.... |
| 08:37.04 | Abnix | 244 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 10 not upgraded. |
| 08:37.05 | chris_ | hey guys, just done a knoppix hd install. used pump to dhcp assign an addy 2 eth1, eth0 is normally my lan and i configured it using the same config i was using with my old debian install and the command aint working |
| 08:37.05 | simonrvn | eew |
| 08:37.06 | chris_ | ne ideas? |
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| 08:37.14 | MerlinCorey | and then going, "OOOOH WE'RE LEET 'CAUSE WE HAVE BIOS PASSWORD EXTRACTOR!@$@%@!" |
| 08:37.27 | MerlinCorey | !ne |
| 08:37.27 | dpkg | i guess ne is the driver for ISA NE2000 compatible NICs, or neon, or short for "not equal", or l33t speak for "any" |
| 08:37.31 | MerlinCorey | !not knoppix |
| 08:37.33 | bonez39 | I have a web site, which was produced using Front Page...is it possible to open the page in some linux app and clear out all that FP stuff? |
| 08:37.35 | MerlinCorey | !not debian |
| 08:37.35 | dpkg | Knoppix isn't, Libranet isn't, Morphix isn't, lnx-bbc isn't, *your* installation you have right now ISN'T.... see if there is a channel available relevant to your distribution, if not, tough. Your questions do not belong here. |
| 08:37.38 | MerlinCorey | !knoppix |
| 08:37.38 | dpkg | knoppix is probably a bootable CD with a demo distribution, based mostly on Debian testing. It has almost 2GB in compressed volume, works in memory not touching harddisks by default, autodetects hardware and starts a prepared KDE session. Can be installed on harddisk later. URL: http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html, http://sgeiger.mine.nu/docs/knoppix.php, /join #knoppix for knoppix-specific stuff. Not Debian but similar. |
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| 08:37.56 | simonrvn | bonez39: yeh, vim |
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| 08:39.00 | x0x_technoboy_x0 | i had to use one of those when i got an old system that had the bios locked.. no biggie :D |
| 08:39.04 | simonrvn | MerlinCorey: tell them that BIOS are old crap that should die off, and they should seriously consider things like openbios or openfirmware instead ;) |
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| 08:39.29 | felis | simonrvn: hehe :) |
| 08:39.43 | simonrvn | felis: *g* |
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| 08:40.52 | felis | woa, there actually _is_ an openbios project |
| 08:40.59 | simonrvn | yeh :) |
| 08:41.07 | simonrvn | there's others |
| 08:41.07 | ecliptik | I was checking out the sparc64 distro and saw the kernel was 64 but the userland was mainly 32, are there any 100% 64 distros? |
| 08:41.17 | try_catch_this | whats the name of the kde utility for viewing disk usage? |
| 08:41.19 | MerlinCorey | simonrvn: I'm trying not to talk in there... lest they call me a cunt and tell me I'm not l33t enough... |
| 08:41.35 | felis | simonrvn: seems like it's coming Real Soon Now, last news posting was 2004-01-23 |
| 08:41.35 | simonrvn | linuxbios, openbios, the OF in various !x86 machines |
| 08:41.37 | FLeiXiuS | ecliptik, my Ubuntu machine is running fine 64-bit |
| 08:41.40 | amphi | try_catch_this: kdf (guess :) |
| 08:41.53 | MerlinCorey | FunkenGrooveN: oh yes and netmon was running <<< rofl |
| 08:41.54 | simonrvn | MerlinCorey: i understand :) |
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| 08:42.44 | bonez39 | simonrvn: really? anything special about working with FP created .htm pages? |
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| 08:42.51 | ecliptik | FLeiXiuS, is all of your userland 64bit? |
| 08:42.59 | simonrvn | ecliptik: afaik you can switch user space to 64 via command line |
| 08:43.02 | FLeiXiuS | ecliptik, define userland |
| 08:43.28 | simonrvn | anything not in-kernel |
| 08:43.37 | ecliptik | what he just said |
| 08:44.16 | simonrvn | bonez39: just that it's a fucking pain to render the fp mangled html pages to real standard html that isn't bloated 500% by useless code |
| 08:44.22 | FLeiXiuS | ecliptik, I run a majority of my programs 64bit |
| 08:44.25 | bonez39 | simonrvn: I want to format the pages, and have them look nice, but I think the FP tags just make it so much messier inside |
| 08:44.45 | simonrvn | bonez39: remove them all. make life easier |
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| 08:44.57 | ecliptik | FLeiXiuS, what progs? |
| 08:45.06 | simonrvn | it's app specific, and fucking useless |
| 08:45.22 | simonrvn | bonez39: you'll reduce your pages size by a lot |
| 08:45.26 | simonrvn | page* |
| 08:45.33 | bonez39 | simonrvn: let me ask it a different way...know of some well crafted sites, which stick just to standard HTML.....but that look great too....variation in color, formatting,e tc? |
| 08:45.43 | simonrvn | bonez39: learn CSS |
| 08:45.57 | bonez39 | learn CSS...ok.. |
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| 08:46.41 | simonrvn | html is supposed to be structural in use, and css more geared towards layout and aesthetics |
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| 08:47.05 | ecliptik | XHTML is a god send |
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| 08:47.21 | simonrvn | i've converted my pages to xhtml |
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| 08:47.45 | SNIa | hello |
| 08:47.52 | simonrvn | i aim for standards, content, and looks |
| 08:47.52 | rich_ | I look at web pages. Their pretty. |
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| 08:48.56 | simonrvn | rich_: go find the worst web sites of the web site. you'll think twice about them being pretty ;) |
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| 08:49.32 | ecliptik | dos has networking? |
| 08:49.52 | SNIa | of course |
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| 08:49.58 | ecliptik | John Kerry's website is 100% HTML compliant |
| 08:50.00 | amphi | ecliptik: there was some 3rd party tcp/ip stack for dos I think |
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| 08:50.03 | SNIa | windows for workgroups... ever remember that? |
| 08:50.26 | ecliptik | yeah, should have rephrased that, "dos has tcp/ip networking?" I loved IPX and doom2 though |
| 08:51.40 | SNIa | yeah dos has tcp/ip in a 3rd party sorta way. even usb for dos |
| 08:52.24 | rich_ | Well its been 20 years. I guess its about time they added a tcp stack to dos. |
| 08:52.31 | SNIa | hehehe |
| 08:52.55 | rich_ | I guess up till now they were hopeing to make the world use novell :) |
| 08:52.56 | potemkin | ecliptik, johnkerry.com? Renders in quirks mode for me... |
| 08:53.02 | Sirius_Black | /exit |
| 08:53.07 | ecliptik | sorry, wrong site |
| 08:53.10 | rich_ | They finnally woke up and smelled the coffee |
| 08:53.11 | SNIa | msdos came out when... 85? |
| 08:53.40 | SNIa | tcp/ip has been out in dos for over a decade afaik |
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| 08:54.01 | ecliptik | there was a major democratic site that had 100% WC3 compatability the other week, I thought it was democracts.com but it doesn't work now |
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| 08:55.00 | MerlinCorey | hahaha |
| 08:55.06 | MerlinCorey | one of them is accosting me... |
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| 08:55.21 | ecliptik | democrats.org, that's it! It did it a week ago, but now it's not from only 1 little error. |
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| 08:56.20 | amphi | MerlinCorey: who is the accoster? |
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| 08:58.37 | amalgam | say hello to u all |
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| 08:58.51 | MerlinCorey | amphi: someone named "how_high_rya"... |
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| 08:59.46 | potemkin | ecliptik, yup, standards compliance mode. That is cool |
| 09:00.13 | amphi | MerlinCorey: where? |
| 09:00.23 | amphi | MerlinCorey: not an inspiring nick... |
| 09:00.38 | MerlinCorey | amphi: yahoo chat rooms "hacker lounge"... bunch of script kiddies and wannabe crackers... |
| 09:01.13 | amphi | MerlinCorey: ah... never ventured into such a place myself |
| 09:01.28 | intero | hello i am using linux and i am using some libs (PVM) which have a header i have to include. the problem is that i have to specify the absolute path to the header in order it to be included, while it shold be globally visible. how can i cahnge that? (same with pvmlib3.a, when i compile) |
| 09:01.43 | ecliptik | I think I shall join that "hackers lounge" too, maybe there's some sexy califonria girls who want to talk horny with me.... |
| 09:02.18 | MerlinCorey | amphi: it's a good laugh every once in while... sometimes there's some actual people that know what they're doing, too... but usually, it's like it is now... |
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| 09:04.41 | amphi | MerlinCorey: I recall an amusing log of a Washington Post (IIRC) journo in an AOL Britney Spears chatroom asking about 'compassionate conservatism' and so on after Bush was elected/appointed/whatever |
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| 09:06.12 | MerlinCorey | amphi: what do you have against my nick..? is it because I also connected to zelazny.freenode.net ..? |
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| 09:07.15 | Myagy | can anyone please tell what kernel modul should i select to have this network card working 00:12.0 Ethernet controller: Lite-On Communications Inc LNE100TX (rev 20) |
| 09:07.16 | Myagy | ? |
| 09:07.18 | sap | intero: edit the MakeFile? |
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| 09:08.01 | amphi | MerlinCorey: not yours, the accoster's |
| 09:08.10 | intero | sap: sure, that's my acutal solution. just wondering is it's possible to put it in a path somewhere, so that i wont need to use -l -L anymore |
| 09:08.55 | Trewas | Myagy: tulip |
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| 09:09.54 | Myagy | Trewas r u sure ? |
| 09:10.32 | Trewas | Myagy: well I had a couple of LNE100TXs, though can't say what revision |
| 09:10.43 | Myagy | great |
| 09:10.45 | Myagy | thx |
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| 09:11.49 | tchino | hello, how can I get the number of my last reportbug, that i have sent out. I assume, that is not going out |
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| 09:13.31 | kuru | I got a weird problem.. I have a very old machine w/ 16 mb ram here |
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| 09:13.35 | kuru | I installed woody on it |
| 09:13.44 | kuru | well, not really done installing |
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| 09:13.53 | kuru | I tried to configure the network |
| 09:13.57 | kuru | loaded the 3c509 module |
| 09:14.10 | kuru | it detected the ethernet card and looks like it sees it just fine |
| 09:14.20 | kuru | however, it can't seem to get its ip address from the dhcp server |
| 09:14.24 | kuru | so I configured it manually |
| 09:14.31 | kuru | yet I still can't get anywhere.. |
| 09:14.56 | kuru | i don't even see an led light up on the switch that has the computer connected to it |
| 09:14.59 | kuru | any ideas? |
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| 09:16.51 | Spongebob | mm i guess im not moving into florida then :/ |
| 09:17.26 | amphi | Spongebob: what a coincidence, I'm not either |
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| 09:17.42 | Spongebob | 4 hurricanes already - jeesus |
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| 09:18.51 | ecliptik | there was Frances, Ivan, and now Jeanne, what was the other? |
| 09:18.53 | potemkin | kuru, network cable ok? |
| 09:18.58 | sap | kuru: dmesg | grep eth |
| 09:19.23 | Spongebob | no idea |
| 09:19.42 | rich_ | ecliptik wallace. :) |
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| 09:21.33 | ecliptik | ummm, guess I missed that one |
| 09:22.14 | ecliptik | is it normal for that many hurricanes to hit so close together? |
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| 09:22.45 | Spongebob | nope |
| 09:22.51 | Spongebob | disaster zone |
| 09:24.54 | rich_ | Oh I dont know. I guess its like fires in california. When it doesnt happen for a while they say it was due |
| 09:25.37 | Spongebob | cafuego: u there mate |
| 09:25.45 | try_catch_this | what do I need to enable the lan:// protocol for konqueror? |
| 09:26.41 | amalgam | en,i'd like to know too |
| 09:26.54 | cyrlap | lisa |
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| 09:27.07 | amalgam | i have configure that,but... |
| 09:27.13 | tchino | hello, how can I get the number of my last reportbug, that i have sent out. I assume, that is not going out |
| 09:27.41 | tchino | where will be save the reportbugs |
| 09:28.19 | simonrvn | tchino: a copy will be sent to you. also should have erecieved a copy from reportbug |
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| 09:28.50 | lkjt | hi... |
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| 09:29.47 | tchino | simonrvn: I think, that is not going out. How can i test it? On my kmail I can send emails from my client over my server outside. But how can I do this over reportbug? |
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| 09:30.51 | simonrvn | tchino: it's sent via sendmail (i.e., local) |
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| 09:31.32 | simonrvn | tchino: then a copy is sent to the bug db, which then the server at the other end sends you a reply with a bug number |
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| 09:31.58 | simonrvn | that reply contains instructions on how to proceed |
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| 09:33.26 | tchino | simonrvn: but it don't comes, that assume, that is not going out, where it saves the email, it was only at /tmp, but at the reboot, it was deleted |
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| 09:33.40 | simonrvn | tchino: check your mta's log |
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| 09:34.00 | tchino | simonrvn: sendmail or exim |
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| 09:34.53 | simonrvn | whichever you have installed. 'sendmail' is a symlink to the real binary if sendmail isn't installed. it's there for compatibility reasons, and usually found at /usr/lib/sendmail |
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| 09:35.35 | kuru | where is a screwdriver when you need one? |
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| 09:36.54 | tchino | simonrvn: oh, I find that in /var/spool/exim/msglog/ |
| 09:37.00 | tchino | simonrvn: 2003-06-21 12:40:27 directing failed for root@mainstation.sensenstein.kassel.de: unknown local-part "root" in domain "mainstation.sensenstein.kassel.de" |
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| 09:37.12 | simonrvn | tchino: no, /var/log/exim |
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| 09:37.40 | simonrvn | fix your /etc/aliases and root account |
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| 09:39.02 | tarzeau | say i'm in a debian system and i've got another hd. how can i install debian to the other hd for another system? i did partition/make file systems already. would i use debootstrap ? |
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| 09:39.13 | tchino | simonrvn: what I must write in there? my computer name is mainstation, my local domain is sensenstein.kassel.de |
| 09:39.41 | simonrvn | tarzeau: yes, for example |
| 09:39.51 | tarzeau | simonrvn: what other possibilities do i have? |
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| 09:40.06 | simonrvn | tchino: has nothing to do with your host name or domain name |
| 09:40.24 | simonrvn | tarzeau: d-i ;) |
| 09:40.31 | try_catch_this | I am running linux on an amd k6, and its starting to get really slow, there a defrag program that may help with this? |
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| 09:40.33 | rotmos | do i disable wich modules i want to start when the machine boots? |
| 09:40.38 | simonrvn | tarzeau: i'd go for debootstrap personally |
| 09:40.53 | tchino | simonrvn: what i have write in it, that exim send an email to root or local users |
| 09:41.27 | simonrvn | tchino: root should not get mail. root mail is sent to an admin's account, sometimes split up as you can see from /etc/aliases |
| 09:41.38 | rotmos | right now it loads ipv6 and i do not want that module, |
| 09:41.50 | simonrvn | so remove it from /etc/modules |
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| 09:42.34 | rotmos | simonrvn: it is not there |
| 09:42.38 | Spaceshoo | Hello, I need help on cross-compiling a C program whch depends on string.h and stdio.h only. Have installed mingw32 and changed CC in the Makefile... but it doesn't work: "undefined reference to fscanf... |
| 09:42.47 | simonrvn | tarzeau: don't forget to mount /proc when you chroot to the new drive |
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| 09:43.12 | tarzeau | simonrvn: it's all in the manual page, thanks :) |
| 09:43.20 | simonrvn | rotmos: then you need to take care of it from /etc/modutils/|/etc/modprobe.d |
| 09:43.23 | vhuren | how do I check all the packages that I have installed? |
| 09:43.27 | simonrvn | tarzeau: :) |
| 09:43.54 | rotmos | simonrvn: oki thanks. |
| 09:43.55 | simonrvn | vhuren: dpkg -l | grep '^.i' |
| 09:44.05 | tchino | simonrvn: it /etc/aliases stands mail:root |
| 09:44.18 | vhuren | thanx simonrvn |
| 09:44.22 | simonrvn | rotmos: i'll get you the files you need to check and what to do. i'm feeling generous ;P |
| 09:44.23 | tchino | simonrvn: but I don't get mail to root |
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| 09:44.37 | simonrvn | tchino: uh, what? |
| 09:44.56 | mirak | hi |
| 09:44.58 | tchino | simonrvn: I search the copy of my reportbug |
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| 09:45.17 | simonrvn | yes i know |
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| 09:45.54 | MerlinCorey | welcome back scarynetworkguy... |
| 09:45.59 | simonrvn | rotmos: well what kernel are you running? |
| 09:46.18 | scarynetworkguy | MerlinCorey: hey |
| 09:46.57 | simonrvn | tchino: mind pasting me what your aliases file has? /msg is ok |
| 09:47.00 | rotmos | simonvrn: 2.6.7 |
| 09:47.12 | tchino | simonrvn: in #flood |
| 09:47.32 | vhuren | is there an easy way to remove gnome and all packages that were installed for it ? |
| 09:47.54 | simonrvn | rotmos: ok, so in /etc/modprobe.d/aliases, comment out "alias net-pf-10 ipv6" |
| 09:48.09 | simonrvn | vhuren: --pruge the gnome libs |
| 09:48.13 | simonrvn | purge even |
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| 09:48.32 | simonrvn | it'll take all gnome lib dependent stuff with it |
| 09:48.38 | hume | hi...is there any way to manage tv-out in kde or gnome? |
| 09:48.51 | vhuren | simonrvn: like apt-get purge gnome |
| 09:48.51 | vhuren | ? |
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| 09:49.00 | rotmos | simonrvn: thanks. |
| 09:49.01 | tchino | simonrvn: look in #flood |
| 09:49.06 | simonrvn | vhuren: no, the gnome libraries |
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| 09:49.22 | vhuren | simonrvn: please elabourate |
| 09:49.29 | simonrvn | tchino: and where is root mail going? |
| 09:49.50 | meursault | i added something to the /etc-7profile file (SLIP network connection). first of all im not sure when this file is read, and why it doesnt work - if i type the commands in a shell it works... |
| 09:49.57 | tchino | i think to root@mainstation.sensenstein.kassel.de |
| 09:50.04 | McKillroy | Hello ! I am running sshd in a chroot jail which was created with debootstrap. When I create a user inside the jail with useradd and passwd I can try to login with ssh newuser@localhost, but when I enter the password i get a "session closed by foreign host" error. When I try a su newuser as root I get a "no shell" error. How can I fix that ? |
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| 09:50.54 | tchino | simonrvn: but i have execute reportbug from a local-user, and than i have specify the normal email-adress, and i have get no answer |
| 09:51.03 | simonrvn | vhuren: e.g., dpkg -P libgnome2-common will drag along everything dependent on it |
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| 09:51.26 | simonrvn | tchino: did you set up reportbug like you're supposed to? |
| 09:51.33 | simonrvn | ... |
| 09:51.34 | manu | i need to mount debian-installer iso image using kernel loop device how do i specify the isoimage name 'mount -t iso9660 -o loop <iso image name> /mnt/iso |
| 09:51.47 | vhuren | simonrvn: what about the configuration files and stuff? |
| 09:52.01 | simonrvn | tchino: nooo, re-read what i said about root mail ^^^^^ |
| 09:52.36 | simonrvn | vhuren: you can take care of any leftovers after if need be |
| 09:52.56 | tchino | simonrvn: in /etc/aliases you can read mail:root |
| 09:53.10 | tchino | simonrvn: in which package is mail |
| 09:53.28 | simonrvn | tchino: you're not getting it. you should have a root: some_user entry too |
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| 09:54.24 | tchino | look in channel #flood, there i have send the output from /etc/aliases |
| 09:54.31 | simonrvn | i know |
| 09:54.39 | rotmos | simonvrn: hmm, i still has ipv6 addresses on my interfaces and lsmod shows ipv6 |
| 09:54.53 | mirak | does the rc1 net installer have pppoe support ? |
| 09:55.01 | simonrvn | rotmos: then it is a module mentioned in /etc/modules |
| 09:55.13 | simonrvn | rotmos: check /etc/modules-2.6 |
| 09:55.24 | simonrvn | mirak: yes |
| 09:55.38 | simonrvn | mirak: check BTS, i saw some bug reports about that |
| 09:55.48 | mirak | ok |
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| 09:56.14 | rotmos | simonvrn: just have ide-cd and ide-generic and sd_mod |
| 09:56.15 | toresbe_ | I have some problems with my NFS share. I have everything set up, and it still gives me a permission denied error |
| 09:56.17 | mirak | I was wondering if I should install from the daily build, or the rc1 |
| 09:56.37 | tchino | simonrvn: why you don't look in #Flood |
| 09:56.48 | simonrvn | rotmos: if it's showing in lsmod, either it's mentioned in a file, or getting loaded via hotplug/discover |
| 09:56.52 | simonrvn | tchino: I DID |
| 09:57.09 | tchino | simonrvn: and see you my /etc/aliases |
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| 09:57.15 | simonrvn | mirak: daily. sven luther has some at his people.d.o site |
| 09:57.23 | fleixius | How do I get into runlevel 3 on debian? |
| 09:57.30 | fleixius | telinit 3 does absolutely nothing |
| 09:57.31 | simonrvn | fleixius: why? |
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| 09:58.03 | rotmos | simonvrn: is there a way do disable it to load via hotplug/discover? |
| 09:58.15 | fleixius | simonrvn, Installing NVIDIA Drivers |
| 09:58.19 | simonrvn | rotmos: blacklist it |
| 09:58.31 | simonrvn | fleixius: and this is relevant how? |
| 09:58.46 | fleixius | simonrvn, to install the nvidia drivers you need to be in init 3 |
| 09:59.02 | tchino | simonrvn: ok, i see, you give help to too much people |
| 09:59.02 | simonrvn | on a redhat box maybe |
| 09:59.44 | fleixius | simonrvn, so your saying it doesn't matter on a debian box? I didn't want to attempt it on init 1 |
| 09:59.55 | simonrvn | fleixius: what that really means is you need to have the xserver stopped. you kill your x session or stop the *dm via its init script |
| 10:00.23 | tchino | simonrvn: i have only one question, where saves reportbug the last emails |
| 10:00.26 | simonrvn | fleixius: no, as x based logins are handled via an init script, not inittab |
| 10:00.37 | simonrvn | (except for login.app) |
| 10:00.50 | fleixius | simonrvn, I'm going to give that a shot, i was just frightened that telinit wasn't working |
| 10:01.02 | simonrvn | tchino: sent to your configured email address and /tmp |
| 10:01.24 | simonrvn | tchino: reportbug --config |
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| 10:02.38 | patroche | hi, i unplugged my keyboard on my gateway and i get those messages spammed in my syslog: "brltty[139]: Not a serial device: /dev/ttyS0" and "brltty[139]: TSI driver giving up" |
| 10:03.05 | patroche | anyone knows what file i have to edit? |
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| 10:03.33 | simonrvn | patroche: why did you do that? |
| 10:03.34 | tchino | simonrvn: ok, that is right, i have review it, but how can i test it, that reportbug send the emails outside over my server |
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| 10:04.15 | vhuren | does unstable use the 2.6.x kernel rather than the 2.4? |
| 10:04.38 | sgeigerbot | patroche: do you have support on that machine for blind people? If not, perhaps you need to do "apt-get remove brltty" |
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| 10:05.29 | simonrvn | tchino: if the mta is properly configured, it should do so... |
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| 10:06.42 | tchino | simonrvn: but, I think, it don't do that, i have don't get an answer to my configured email-adress |
| 10:07.04 | simonrvn | then you need to fix it, don't you |
| 10:07.08 | sgeigerbot | vhuren: I don't know, but imo, it is always a good idea to compile a new kernel as soon as I have installed a new system... |
| 10:07.09 | rich_ | vhuren 2.6 is in the testing version, which is sarge |
| 10:08.43 | vhuren | thanx |
| 10:08.56 | vhuren | well I compiled a new version and now I'm upgrading to sid |
| 10:09.15 | tchino | simonrvn: exim was not installed on my client, but what i Don't understand, kmail send emails out over my server |
| 10:10.37 | tchino | simonrvn: i have installed exim now, but why can kmail send emails without exim over my server |
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| 10:11.19 | patroche | sgeigerbot ok i'll remove that and see what it does |
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| 10:11.33 | OoTLink | hallo |
| 10:11.50 | patroche | simonrvn: it's a box with no screen/keyboard it's just accessed by ssh |
| 10:11.56 | simonrvn | could someone please explain it to tchino i'm losing patience |
| 10:12.00 | simonrvn | patroche: gotcha |
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| 10:12.34 | tchino | simonrvn: sorry... bye |
| 10:12.45 | OoTLink | moof :( |
| 10:12.45 | simonrvn | tchino: you don't have to leave |
| 10:13.29 | sphenxes | tchino please stay, i am also reading your questions(I am newbie) |
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| 10:14.01 | OoTLink | hmm |
| 10:14.28 | simonrvn | tchino: ok, here goes. on *nix-based OSes, an MTA is used for various system functions, like sending mail to users from cron, and other tasks. reportbug assumes you have a correctly configured MTA to send the emails off |
| 10:15.28 | sap | tchino: you probably have Kmail setup to use your ISP's pop server, so it doesn't need an MTA, whereas reportbug does. |
| 10:15.33 | simonrvn | tchino: if it's not correctly set up, or one doesn't exist (one should, debian forces a system to have either a real one installed, or a fake/alternate one via equivs package) then it can't do that |
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| 10:15.50 | simonrvn | sap: pop3 is not smtp |
| 10:16.07 | sap | simonrvn: ok |
| 10:16.07 | simonrvn | through his isp's smtpd probably |
| 10:16.20 | tchino | simonrvn: i know that, but on my client: exim was not installed, and it can send the email to my server:skyliner, that it send out (kmail). And that I don't understand... |
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| 10:16.59 | Gnea | hrm |
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| 10:17.24 | simonrvn | tchino: then it's set up in such a way that all your mail gets forwarded to your server. reportbug needs it local IIRC. i *think* you can set it up so it gets forwarded but i'm not sure |
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| 10:17.39 | tarzeau | Gnea: check www.linuks.mine.nu/ree/ |
| 10:18.05 | tarzeau | Gnea: it'd be missing most of the bios rom, as it's mostly windowed and the window is limited to 64k |
| 10:18.07 | sgeigerbot | patroche: what happened? |
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| 10:18.19 | tarzeau | Gnea: it works well for bios rom extensions < 64k (like video bios) |
| 10:18.20 | patroche | sgeigerbot: it was the prob, thx a lot |
| 10:18.26 | tchino | sap: ok, I understand, i have install exim now, but it will the links from /etc/init.d/ to /etc/rc0...6.d/K20exim, must I do the links manual |
| 10:18.36 | Gnea | tarzeau: very cool. |
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| 10:19.15 | simonrvn | tchino: you can: --mta='<MTA>' (see man reportbug) |
| 10:19.21 | sgeigerbot | dpkg no knoppix is a bootable CD with a demo distribution, based mostly on Debian testing. It has almost 2GB in compressed volume, works in memory not touching harddisks by default, autodetects hardware and starts a prepared KDE session. Can be installed on harddisk later. URL: http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html, http://sgeiger.mine.nu/docs/knoppix.html, /join #knoppix for knoppix-specific stuff. Not Debian but simil |
| 10:19.21 | sgeigerbot | ar. |
| 10:19.21 | dpkg | sgeigerbot: okay |
| 10:19.32 | sgeigerbot | patroche: np. |
| 10:19.41 | simonrvn | tchino: also the --mua option |
| 10:19.41 | sap | tchino: the symbolic links should be setup for you on install |
| 10:19.44 | Gnea | ASUS A7N8X2.0 Deluxe ACPI BIOS Rev 1007 |
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| 10:21.25 | Gnea | tarzeau: hehe, want the bios for an abit bp6? ;) |
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| 10:22.05 | Gnea | i440BX-W83977 (BP6) |
| 10:22.08 | tchino | simonrvn: at /etc/reportbug, you can read under #mta /usr/sbin/sendmail, what i have write there, when i send it over my server with name skyliner |
| 10:22.24 | tarzeau | Gnea: sure all but the main bios! send me video bios etc, not the f0000.rom |
| 10:22.31 | tarzeau | Gnea: gurkan@linuks.mine.nu |
| 10:22.31 | tchino | simonrvn: mta skyliner ??? |
| 10:22.38 | Gnea | tarzeau: duhr? |
| 10:22.38 | simonrvn | tchino: as long as that machine knows where to find skyliner, i don,t see why not |
| 10:22.46 | tarzeau | Gnea: how many *.rom files did it dump? |
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| 10:23.01 | tchino | simonrvn: skyliner stands in /etc/hosts |
| 10:23.01 | Gnea | tarzeau: hehe i just used that one dd line.. hold on i'll snag yer utils |
| 10:23.06 | simonrvn | tchino: ok |
| 10:23.21 | manu | i need to mount debian-installer iso image using kernel loop device how do i specify the isoimage name 'mount -t iso9660 -o loop <iso image name> /mnt/iso |
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| 10:23.58 | simonrvn | manu: the file name |
| 10:24.12 | tchino | simonrvn: how can I test reportbug shortly, that it functioned right |
| 10:24.15 | UberNeiztichian | free gmail invite |
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| 10:24.16 | Gnea | tarzeau: yeah i was gonna say.. yer missing a geforce4* bios |
| 10:24.17 | Sharcho_ | Is there some trick to safely fsck the active system partition without rebooting? I was thinking perhaps about creating a chrooted ramfs partition containing fsck, but there seems to be no way to umount / |
| 10:24.18 | UberNeiztichian | pm me |
| 10:24.24 | simonrvn | tchino: watch your log ;) |
| 10:24.24 | tarzeau | Gnea: heh ;) |
| 10:24.26 | Gnea | !lart UberNeiztichian |
| 10:24.26 | Lyra\ | Hello! Wow there's a lot of people here |
| 10:24.31 | simonrvn | UberNeiztichian: /topic |
| 10:24.55 | manu | what is the file name for the debian net install cdrom |
| 10:25.11 | sap | simonrvn: it's strange that exim wasn't installed for tchino since it's a dependency of reportbug |
| 10:25.11 | simonrvn | Sharcho_: single user, remount r/o or umount / |
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| 10:25.21 | Lyra\ | I'm new to Debian, although very impressed. But I'd like to move to the 2.6 Kernel could anyone tell me how to do that please? Perhaps using apt? A PM might be best since its so busy here. Thanks! |
| 10:25.23 | simonrvn | sap: m-t-a is AFAIK |
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| 10:25.52 | Sharcho_ | simonrvn: you mean "init 2" ? |
| 10:25.55 | freezer | hi |
| 10:26.01 | simonrvn | sap: it's just a Suggests: |
| 10:26.09 | simonrvn | Sharcho_: no, 1 |
| 10:26.12 | simonrvn | Suggests: postfix | exim4 | mail-transport-agent, gnupg | pgp, debconf-utils (>> 1.1.0), debsums, file (>> 1.30) |
| 10:26.13 | freezer | Can't locate object method "init" via package "Gnome" at /usr/local/lib/gkismet/GKismetApplication.pm line 62. |
| 10:26.17 | sap | simonrvn: ah, it depends on python2.3 ... yeah :) |
| 10:26.18 | rich_ | Thanks everyone, bbl |
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| 10:26.26 | nicooo | Hi |
| 10:26.27 | nicooo | How to decompress a .tar.bz2 file please |
| 10:26.27 | manu | Lyra:you can get 2.6 kernel image using apt |
| 10:26.28 | freezer | i got this error while starting gkismet |
| 10:26.36 | simonrvn | nicooo: man tar |
| 10:26.51 | nicooo | simonrvn>pfff |
| 10:27.03 | simonrvn | nicooo: welcome to my /ignore list |
| 10:27.16 | tchino | sap: i installed exim, what i have to configered, when i send emails or reportbugs over my server skyliner |
| 10:27.28 | nicooo | simonrvn>pff |
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| 10:27.36 | Gnea | tarzeau: alright it created 4 rom files.. now wtf? |
| 10:27.36 | Sharcho_ | simonrvn: the problem is that "init 1" closes off ssh |
| 10:27.49 | simonrvn | tchino: well, since you installed an mta, you don,t need to do that. though you might want to anyway |
| 10:27.50 | tarzeau | Gnea: send me all but the f0000.rom one |
| 10:27.59 | Gnea | ah ok i see |
| 10:28.07 | Gnea | c0000 is the video bios... |
| 10:28.13 | tarzeau | Gnea: yes, run file *.rom |
| 10:28.22 | tarzeau | Gnea: i've sent a patch to id .rom files to file ;) |
| 10:28.22 | tchino | simonrvn: in which log I have to look |
| 10:28.23 | simonrvn | Sharcho_: well you can touch /.forcefsck or something and reboot, too |
| 10:28.41 | simonrvn | tchino: if it's exim4 it's in /var/log/exim4/mainlog |
| 10:28.49 | Gnea | tarzeau: i saw that on yer page.. not sure how to implement tho |
| 10:29.01 | Gnea | oh wait.. it's already there |
| 10:29.01 | Sharcho_ | simonrvn: will forcefsck automatically fix the problems? |
| 10:29.03 | vhuren | simonrvn: do you know a way to remove all of packages installed by genome2 and all its file? I tried to remove the libs but they still persist |
| 10:29.18 | tchino | simonrvn: but you say, I don't need exim, now i have set 'mta skyliner' in /etc/reportbug.conf |
| 10:29.24 | simonrvn | Sharcho_: if it can yes. otherwise you'll need to do "surgery" |
| 10:29.40 | simonrvn | vhuren: use aptitude then |
| 10:29.50 | Sharcho_ | simonrvn: Thanks |
| 10:30.02 | Gnea | tarzeau: wtf is UNDI? |
| 10:30.04 | simonrvn | tchino: i'd keep it around, just in case |
| 10:30.18 | vhuren | simonrvn: I am new to all this could you assist in what to type |
| 10:30.19 | vhuren | ? |
| 10:30.33 | Gnea | tarzeau: looks kinda cool tho... my mobo's bios has an extension to do network boots off of the onboard network adaptors |
| 10:30.33 | tarzeau | Gnea: no idea that's found in the rom |
| 10:30.42 | Gnea | NVIDIA Boot Agent, PXE-2.0 (build 082 V1.82) |
| 10:30.49 | simonrvn | you install aptitude, read its help, and go on from there. apt-get install aptitude |
| 10:30.52 | tarzeau | Gnea: let me quote the best from bios roms: |
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| 10:31.28 | tarzeau | from the intel video rom: DECOMPILATION OR DISASSEMBLY PROHIBITED |
| 10:31.29 | simonrvn | Gnea: yeh, netboot |
| 10:31.38 | simonrvn | tarzeau: weee |
| 10:31.39 | Gnea | ROFL |
| 10:31.44 | freezer | i got this error while starting gkismet |
| 10:31.46 | freezer | Can't locate object method "init" via package "Gnome" at /usr/local/lib/gkismet/GKismetApplication.pm line 62. |
| 10:32.23 | simonrvn | freezer: looks like you're missing a perl module. i hope you didn't install from source... |
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| 10:32.44 | tarzeau | Nine Visual Tech: video rom: I've got a "Ticket To Ride" |
| 10:32.54 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 10:32.57 | freezer | simonrvn: there was no source...just some per files... |
| 10:33.05 | simonrvn | nods |
| 10:33.13 | freezer | simonrvn: i instaled severeal debian per packages |
| 10:33.23 | freezer | per=perl |
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| 10:33.38 | simonrvn | freezer: does it launch anyway, or does it die? |
| 10:33.54 | freezer | simonrvn: it dies with this message |
| 10:34.35 | Gnea | tarzeau: sent. |
| 10:34.36 | simonrvn | well, go see if you can find GKismetApplication.pm at PDO, and install that package if there is one |
| 10:34.40 | simonrvn | @pdo |
| 10:34.40 | ravenbird | from memory, pdo is http://packages.debian.org/ - here you can search for debian packages and their contents |
| 10:35.10 | simonrvn | @pdo =~ s/http/<reply>http/ |
| 10:35.11 | ravenbird | OK, simonrvn |
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| 10:36.33 | freezer | ne debian packages available.. |
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| 10:37.12 | freezer | i also think its a perl problem, but dont know what i else must install |
| 10:37.24 | cyberyo | io |
| 10:37.26 | simonrvn | see the README then |
| 10:37.34 | simonrvn | cyberyo: allo |
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| 10:41.59 | ebene | !damn the SCSL |
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| 10:42.43 | _frank | is it safe to close ncftp when i started downloads with bgget? |
| 10:44.11 | Sebulba02 | Ouch |
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| 10:44.52 | TecMar | if I would like to uninstall exim, what's the best way to do so? |
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| 10:45.44 | rotmos | TecMar: apt-get install the other mta you want |
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| 10:49.13 | tchino | simonrvn: look in #flood, there are the last lines over my reportbug |
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| 10:49.43 | simonrvn | looks ok |
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| 10:52.29 | try_catch_this | I added the line "/dev/hda2 none swap sw 0 0" to /etc/fstab, after creating a primary linux swap partition, and installed swapd, it worked last boot, untill I opened toomany programs (not intentionally) and linux crashed, now when its booting I get an error saying that it cant find the swap ( something or the other ) any idea why this would happen? |
| 10:53.04 | rotmos | simonrvn: if got you right all i need to do to disable ipv6 in hotplug was just to type ipv6 into /etc/hotplug/blacklist ? |
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| 10:54.07 | zimnyx | do you think slackware is worth of trying ? |
| 10:54.54 | Sharcho_ | zimnyx: if you're already using Debian, I don't think so |
| 10:54.58 | cahoot | zimnyx: haha - innocence |
| 10:55.02 | godsmoke | heh |
| 10:55.32 | zimnyx | i've been using debian for one year |
| 10:55.33 | godsmoke | zimnyx: each distribution has its pros and cons -- I think it will never hurt to try something new |
| 10:55.46 | zimnyx | and i'm very satisfied with debian |
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| 10:56.55 | simonrvn | rotmos: dunno, the docs know. |
| 10:56.57 | helloyo | debian is very nice, very fast package management, relatively up to date... |
| 10:56.58 | Sharcho_ | If you want to try another distribtuion Fedora Core or Gentoo would be better choices. But then again, I use Debian for everything. |
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| 10:57.14 | godsmoke | Fedora is a seriously poor choice |
| 10:57.15 | vhuren | is there a way in aptitude to remove a package and also remove all the packages that depend on it? |
| 10:57.21 | helloyo | i never managed to get gentoo to work, fedora core is easy, but isn't as nice as debian by far |
| 10:57.23 | davFr | new topic : does anyone have tried current snapshot of d-i, the debian installer? Is there blocking/destructive bugs currently? |
| 10:57.28 | simonrvn | vhuren: yes |
| 10:57.37 | simonrvn | davFr: BTS knows |
| 10:57.39 | simonrvn | @bts |
| 10:57.40 | ravenbird | i heard bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or anyone running unstable who's unable to check the BTS should be shot on sight. apt-get install reportbug |
| 10:57.40 | Sebulba02 | Its difficult to go from debian to any rpm based distro |
| 10:57.43 | vhuren | simonrvn: how so which option does it? |
| 10:57.50 | intero | pelo: thanks ;) |
| 10:58.01 | tchino | simonrvn: i hope, it will be send, i look after the number in two days, when i don't get any answer |
| 10:58.12 | godsmoke | rpm is nothing more than a format -- "deb" doesn't offer much over it -- it's just the tools that people generalize on |
| 10:58.12 | simonrvn | vhuren: i told you before, purge (_ in aptitude) the library packages |
| 10:58.28 | simonrvn | tchino: should get an answer fairly quickly |
| 10:58.28 | vhuren | using the "_" |
| 10:58.31 | vhuren | key correct? |
| 10:58.31 | Sebulba02 | well, yeah |
| 10:58.37 | vhuren | '_' |
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| 10:58.44 | Sebulba02 | hense the "based" |
| 10:58.46 | davFr | simonrvn: i checked, but I like to do "live double checking" for important stuff! :o) |
| 10:58.50 | helloyo | rpm and deb are really similar |
| 10:59.04 | Sebulba02 | somewhat |
| 10:59.11 | Sebulba02 | but not really |
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| 10:59.26 | helloyo | can't u convert one to the other, albeit difficultly? |
| 10:59.28 | godsmoke | Fedora carries most of the RedHat methods of doing things -- which is why it's a poor choice -- redhat made some pretty poor decisions, and their mandate for 'tools' is just stupid |
| 10:59.37 | godsmoke | helloyo: yes |
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| 10:59.59 | helloyo | yeah, if you want to try rpm based, definately go for mandrake |
| 11:00.04 | amphi | godsmoke: what is their 'mandate for tools'? |
| 11:00.29 | godsmoke | amphi: the way redhat distros are based around the use of redhat tools -- which often lack functionality over the original tools they script |
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| 11:00.54 | helloyo | i have used mandrake, fedora and debian extensively, so if you have any questions about how they are different/similar |
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| 11:01.34 | amphi | godsmoke: ah, thanks, I know very little about things redhattish |
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| 11:02.16 | godsmoke | yeah -- I'm forced to use CentOS (essentially RedHat Enterprise -- with a few modifications), for work -- so, I'm well versed in the environment |
| 11:02.41 | godsmoke | FreeBSD resides on most of my personal workstations |
| 11:02.51 | godsmoke | debian resides on all linux workstations |
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| 11:03.13 | cahoot | zimnyx: planning to use the system for something special? |
| 11:03.18 | Glanzmann | Hi, how can I tell the debian bugreporting system, that a bug is a duplicate? |
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| 11:03.41 | Glanzmann | Bug 249885 and 270710 are duplicates. |
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| 11:04.41 | caphuso | Glanzmann: merge them |
| 11:04.56 | Glanzmann | caphuso: Okay. |
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| 11:06.39 | zabbas | Hello... |
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| 11:09.32 | vhuren | is it possible to get an experimental source package if you are running unstable? |
| 11:09.37 | manu | i need to mount debian-installer iso image using kernel loop device how do i specify the isoimage name 'mount -t iso9660 -o loop <iso image name> /mnt/iso |
| 11:09.53 | sepski | vhuren, they all experimental when your running unstable :) |
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| 11:10.52 | vhuren | sepski: well I tried to get ipw2100-source but it says ibm:/home/xavier# apt-get source ipw2100-source E: Unable to find a source package for ipw2100-source |
| 11:11.02 | johnnyST | how long will debian support sarge for security uppdates when it is realsed as the next stable version? |
| 11:11.04 | vhuren | sepski: any idea of how to get it? |
| 11:11.21 | sgeigerbot | manu: did you try that? |
| 11:11.31 | godsmoke | johnnyST: until the next stable version after it -- woody still gets security updates |
| 11:11.52 | sgeigerbot | mount -r -t iso9660 -o loop ./whatever.iso /mnt/whatever |
| 11:11.55 | godsmoke | johnnyST: debian has a long product cycle -- 3 years or so between stable trees |
| 11:12.06 | johnnyST | godsmoke, ok. |
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| 11:12.28 | godsmoke | johnnyST: sarge isn't stable yet -- once it is, it's going to be 2 - 3 years until the next stable |
| 11:12.50 | johnnyST | godsmoke, so about 3 years then, perhaps userlinux can extend that.. |
| 11:13.06 | sgeigerbot | godsmoke: was it last summer or the year before that already when testing became stable? |
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| 11:13.13 | zabbas | Someone know how to install Nvidia drivers? (Or give me some clues where to find information)? |
| 11:13.15 | godsmoke | johnnyST: well -- why not just keep with stable? -- it's not complicated |
| 11:13.18 | vhuren | ipw2100-source (0.54-1) [contrib] source for the ipw2100 driver |
| 11:13.20 | sepski | vhuren: make sure you have a correct deb-src in your sources.list |
| 11:13.21 | godsmoke | sgeigerbot: year before |
| 11:13.46 | vhuren | sepski: I have |
| 11:13.46 | vhuren | deb-src ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian unstable main |
| 11:13.46 | sgeigerbot | ~+nvidia |
| 11:13.47 | apt | somebody said nvidia was proprietary? no dri? |
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| 11:14.08 | helix | what a crappy factoid |
| 11:14.14 | sgeigerbot | zabbas: http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/nvidia-2.6-Debian/index.html |
| 11:14.21 | sgeigerbot | !factinfo nvidia howto |
| 11:14.21 | dpkg | nvidia howto -- last modified at Mon Jan 12 15:10:30 2004 by streuner!~streuner@p5083712B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de; it has been requested 61 times, last by kaplanfx, 1d 2h 17m 28s ago. |
| 11:14.23 | sepski | zabbas, it's easy i allways find the howto on google by asking if for debian howto nvidia |
| 11:14.31 | godsmoke | sgeigerbot: two years rather :) |
| 11:14.39 | godsmoke | sgeigerbot: Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 (a.k.a. woody) was released on 19th of July, 2002 |
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| 11:14.42 | sgeigerbot | godsmoke: gotcha |
| 11:14.56 | sgeigerbot | godsmoke: time flies when you are getting older. |
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| 11:15.01 | godsmoke | heh |
| 11:15.08 | johnnyST | godsmoke, I don't want to do a dist-upgrade on any server. |
| 11:15.08 | godsmoke | time flies when you're young and live like you're older :) |
| 11:15.12 | sgeigerbot | helix: no kidding. |
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| 11:15.23 | sgeigerbot | ~+bouncy |
| 11:15.28 | apt | extra, extra, read all about it, bouncy is http://s.bouncybouncy.net or http://s.bouncybouncy.net:8000 or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/conf/ look for nvidia* |
| 11:15.29 | zabbas | Shit... Gogle... Howto... As usual most simplest solutions are always most diffult to find:D Thanks:D |
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| 11:16.04 | sgeigerbot | zabbas: "<greycat> sgeigerbot: and I learned that there's no sane way to build nvidia-kernel drivers without a custom kernel" |
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| 11:16.35 | sgeigerbot | ~+nvidia debs |
| 11:16.37 | apt | rumour has it, nvidia debs is Justin_ has built a set of nvidia debs for woody, sarge, and sid. See http://www.bouncybouncy.net:8000/nvidia_debs/APT_SOURCES or try http://people.debian.org/~rdonald/nvidia/APT or deb http://kambing.vlsm.org/DLL/debian-local stable lokal |
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| 11:17.13 | sgeigerbot | zabbas: might want to try in #nvidia if all else fails. |
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| 11:18.30 | sepski | me kicks peer |
| 11:18.53 | sgeigerbot | sepski: We should ban peer. |
| 11:19.11 | cafuego | yeah! Ban it! |
| 11:19.21 | vhuren | I tried running the command 'apt-get source ipw2100-source' but I get the error that says E: Unable to find a source package for ipw2100 can someone help? |
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| 11:20.43 | zabbas | Thanks guys... Now I will look into those pages... |
| 11:20.51 | FrdFlint | zabbas thew best info is at serios .net |
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| 11:21.50 | zabbas | You want be happy about this... But making this to work under RH is much easier:P |
| 11:21.57 | try_catch_this | whats the name of the tool to automatically add entries to /etc/fstab |
| 11:21.57 | try_catch_this | ? |
| 11:22.04 | Sebulba02 | Thats BS |
| 11:22.19 | Sebulba02 | well, if you can find it for RH initially, maybe |
| 11:22.24 | sepski | zabbas, you get nvidia modules in 3 commands it dosn't get to be much easier then that |
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| 11:22.40 | FrdFlint | zabbas check out www.serios.net for the simplest strightforward nvidia info |
| 11:22.58 | FrdFlint | also has java info too |
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| 11:23.20 | sepski | vhuren, i dont have a unstable available to me now so i cant check sorry |
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| 11:23.29 | sgeigerbot | !+nvidia is also check out www.serios.net for the simplest strightforward nvidia info |
| 11:23.29 | dpkg | okay, sgeigerbot |
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| 11:23.40 | zabbas | sepski: For RH You get drivers from Nvidia page, run and it's working... But my first problem was that this dont want to work under Debian... |
| 11:23.56 | Sebulba02 | it does for me |
| 11:24.02 | crypt | hi |
| 11:24.20 | caphuso | *sigh* more stupid nvidia nonsense |
| 11:24.21 | crypt | how can i install nvidia driver on kernel 2.6.7 source ? |
| 11:24.28 | try_catch_this | I want to update my partition lists what is the program to do this? |
| 11:24.34 | Sebulba02 | How very fortunate of you sgeigerbot. |
| 11:24.44 | caphuso | why the fuck can't those people who have no idea just shut up instead of polluting everything with silly howtos explaining the wrong way? |
| 11:24.44 | FrdFlint | crypt check out serios .net |
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| 11:25.31 | caphuso | dpkg: nvidia =~ s/check out http://www.serios.net for the simplest strightforward nvidia info// |
| 11:25.39 | caphuso | dpkg: nvidia =~ s#check out http://www.serios.net for the simplest strightforward nvidia info## |
| 11:25.39 | dpkg | OK, caphuso |
| 11:25.39 | sepski | zabbas, do this -- NVIDIA=testing (replace with your distro) ; apt-get install module-assistant ; module-assistant auto-install nvidia |
| 11:25.48 | sgeigerbot | helix: Holy sh*t...do you realize what time it is! Well, okay, you are 2 timezones ahead of me...but still.... |
| 11:25.56 | holycow | caphuso, heh |
| 11:26.05 | sepski | zabbas, you dont even need to touch the web, and you can easily upgrade when you upgrade your kernel |
| 11:26.10 | holycow | humility is not in human nature unfortunately |
| 11:26.14 | FrdFlint | caphuso did you check out that site? it works for me also the jaav does |
| 11:26.25 | TecMar | if using send mail 8.13.1 where do I define what domain /subnet should be trusted to send mail (relay domains?) |
| 11:26.26 | caphuso | FrdFlint: i did, that's why i noticed that it's fucked up |
| 11:26.27 | sgeigerbot | holycow: It's a plugin, though. |
| 11:26.40 | FrdFlint | why is it fucked up? |
| 11:26.50 | FrdFlint | it works here maybe you just dont know how |
| 11:26.58 | caphuso | FrdFlint: because it overwrites files belonging to debian packages without diverting them properly |
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| 11:28.05 | FrdFlint | hmmmm been working here for months |
| 11:28.05 | sgeigerbot | caphuso: what? the serio.net packages? |
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| 11:28.06 | caphuso | sgeigerbot: there are no packages on serios.net |
| 11:28.11 | Hak`M | I think pci_hotplug is trying to assign the prism54 drivers to my wlan card while they don´t work. When I try ndiswrapper the card works but everytime I boot or bring up the device it tries the prism54 drivers again. How can I get rid of those drivers in a good way? (I´m running sid) |
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| 11:28.29 | caphuso | it's a silly howto on running the nvidia installation script, like you can find it on about one million other web sites |
| 11:28.56 | sgeigerbot | I wanted to write | "Connection Timed Out Hiku" | But before I could... |
| 11:28.57 | [suller] | does anyone have what can cause heavy packet dropping, i check ifconfig and there is 300k dropped pakcages (in one day), after reboot, it wont drop any packages for 1-3 hours |
| 11:28.58 | caphuso | holycow: blacklist the module |
| 11:29.02 | sepski | http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/ this is the howto debian-way |
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| 11:29.14 | sepski | never failed me yet and it's dead simple |
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| 11:29.27 | sgeigerbot | ~dict hiku |
| 11:29.33 | holycow | caphuso, i think you guys are not hitting tab complete enough times? |
| 11:29.44 | caphuso | holycow: damn, sorry |
| 11:29.55 | caphuso | Hak`M: blacklist the module |
| 11:29.56 | Hak`M | caphuso: where can I blacklist it? (i think you were talking to me? ;-)) |
| 11:29.57 | holycow | thats okay, i'm just trying to follow :) |
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| 11:30.14 | sgeigerbot | s/hiku/haiku/ |
| 11:30.16 | sepski | [suller], : allways check your speed and duplex settings when deadling with packet drops, also see if you can find out where the drop occures by pinging farther and father out your network |
| 11:30.20 | caphuso | Hak`M: /etc/hotplug/blacklist* |
| 11:30.37 | Hak`M | caphuso: ah.. that´s what I needed I think... tnx |
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| 11:30.55 | Hak`M | caphuso: and that was right under my nose all the time :/ |
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| 11:31.29 | [suller] | sepski, can you tell me where to check and any ideas why does it work for 1-3 hours okay? |
| 11:31.34 | nicooo | can someone help me with courier imap please ? |
| 11:31.51 | caphuso | nicooo: #courier |
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| 11:32.01 | nicooo | thanks |
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| 11:32.13 | try_catch_this | can anyone add to dpkg and tell him where something is? |
| 11:32.20 | caphuso | try_catch_this: yes :-( |
| 11:32.43 | x7x | Is there an alternative to direct (rm) clean of /var/cache/apt/archives ? |
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| 11:32.49 | sepski | [suller], without any info it's difficult to say where your problem is, but i could guess a lot :P maybe your trffic dosnt picu up before 1-4 houers (p2p forinstance) or maybe something goes warm ? |
| 11:32.50 | caphuso | x7x: apt-get {,auto}clean |
| 11:32.52 | sgeigerbot | nicooo: Don't ask to ask...just ask. The Ask-To-Ask Protocol v 1.0 wastes more bandwidth than any version of the Ask Protocol. (~ask-to-ask) |
| 11:33.01 | try_catch_this | he dosent seem to be listenig to me :/ |
| 11:33.33 | [suller] | sepski, thx, i havent got any docs for what could cause dropping packages |
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| 11:38.53 | zabbas | Guys... You are great:) I was fighting with this for 2 days and You solved this in 5 min:) Thanks:) |
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| 11:41.32 | da_didi | hi all |
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| 11:41.57 | sgeigerbot | ...and so zabbas decides to cut himself off immediately from his source of enlightenment, so that he can struggle harder |
| 11:42.18 | da_didi | is there a easy way to install debian with knoppix? my gentoo got broken this morning and i want to rescue now the data files and install then debian |
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| 11:42.38 | caphuso | da_didi: no. if you install knoppix, you get knoppix |
| 11:42.39 | lxuser | can sb please tell me how to install *.deb files from hdd?? |
| 11:42.43 | caphuso | lxuser: dpkg -i |
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| 11:42.49 | sgeigerbot | da_didi: I use debootstrap, started from a knoppix CD. It works wonderfully...but you need to know what you are doing. |
| 11:42.56 | da_didi | caphuso: I want to install debian, not knoppix |
| 11:43.15 | da_didi | sgeigerbot: that would be perfect.. is there a howto in the net? |
| 11:43.22 | x7x | Whati is wrong with this command: "debmirror -a i386 -h ftp.nerim.net -r /debian-marillat -d testing -s main --nosource --progress marillat_mirror/" |
| 11:43.35 | miernik | hi world. I installed NAS (network audio system) and now recording with brec doesn't work |
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| 11:43.41 | [suller] | sepski, but does heavy bandwidth cause dropped packages? and where could i check NIC's duplex/speed? |
| 11:43.42 | sgeigerbot | da_didi: I developed my own script to handle things. the result is that I have my own intsaller...and all the flexibility that comes with it. |
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| 11:43.54 | sgeigerbot | da_didi: It's a very flexible way to install... |
| 11:44.14 | miernik | miernik@localhost:~$ brec -s 11025 /var/local/au/test.au |
| 11:44.14 | miernik | brec: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy |
| 11:44.18 | da_didi | well, with the help of knoppix i could be here and ask you :) |
| 11:44.45 | syntaxis | da_didi: you should be able to use "3.7 Installing Debian GNU/Linux from a Unix/Linux System" of http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-preparing.en.html as your guide |
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| 11:45.15 | sgeigerbot | da_didi: would you like to try my rather crude script? |
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| 11:45.39 | sgeigerbot | da_didi: I guess you could say it is self-documenting. |
| 11:45.50 | jmob | I heard some rumors that sarge is going to become stable relatively soon, true? |
| 11:45.55 | caphuso | jmob: yes |
| 11:46.53 | da_didi | syntaxis & sgeigerbot: I think i try the 3.7 with debootstrap. |
| 11:46.54 | lxuser | how can i tell deselect to install *.deb files from hdd?? |
| 11:47.00 | jmob | What's it been, like 2 years? |
| 11:47.09 | godsmoke | lxuser: just use dpkg |
| 11:47.21 | jmob | heh, no gmail invites |
| 11:47.22 | lxuser | why not dselect? |
| 11:47.36 | da_didi | Knoppix download will take 58 Minutes, burn & Rescue will take an hour.. i will be back here in about 2 hours in think.. Thanks allready! |
| 11:47.36 | godsmoke | jmob: 2 years and 2 months until now -- but sarge isn't being stablized tomorrow -- so, a few months probably |
| 11:47.50 | godsmoke | lxuser: dselect is a high level program -- no need |
| 11:48.14 | syntaxis | da_didi: no worries :-) cheerio |
| 11:48.17 | lxuser | sorry what is high level? |
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| 11:48.27 | godsmoke | jmob: the standard debian lifecycle is 2.5 - 3 years |
| 11:48.36 | godsmoke | lxuser: dselect -- I don't think you should ever use it |
| 11:48.54 | sgeigerbot | da_didi: do you want my script? |
| 11:49.14 | godsmoke | bbl |
| 11:49.23 | sgeigerbot | da_didi: Btw, you can just install knoppix from the Knoppix CD...and that gives you a Debian-like system. If you are new to these things, that might be good enough. |
| 11:49.26 | syntaxis | godsmoke: no, it isn't... it's only the last two releases that have had such long stretches between them |
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| 11:49.48 | sgeigerbot | da_didi: ...and, most of what you learn will be directly useful on a Debian system. |
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| 11:50.00 | syntaxis | godsmoke: lol - poorly phrased: just woody, and the gap from woody to sarge (still waiting! :-) |
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| 11:55.39 | gahan | !info sysvinit woody |
| 11:55.42 | dpkg | sysvinit: (System-V like init.), section base, is required. Version: 2.84-2woody1 (woody), Packaged size: 108 kB, Installed size: 260 kB |
| 11:55.43 | gahan | hmmm |
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| 11:56.49 | GKhan | !info satan sarge |
| 11:56.51 | dpkg | satan: (Security Auditing Tool for Analysing Networks), section non-free/admin, is optional. Version: 1.1.1-18 (sarge), Packaged size: 210 kB, Installed size: 1144 kB |
| 11:56.56 | Rawplayer | when i boot debian sarge cdrom in my dual ultra 2 the cd boots then it does this Remapping the kernel... FP Disabled |
| 11:56.59 | Rawplayer | and then it go's back to the OBP prompt |
| 11:57.02 | Rawplayer | how can i solve this? |
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| 12:00.02 | Sandis | http://www.enchant.ru/go.php?login=Sandis |
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| 12:00.46 | Yauolz | Look at that Girl with 3 Pupss http://www.enchant.ru/go.php?login=Begimot :DDD this is not a virus :DDDD |
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| 12:00.54 | try_catch_this | how do you pot your computer in a low power consumption state and wake it up from another computer on a lan when you are ready? |
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| 12:01.07 | lxuser | where can i get new libs and stuff?? |
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| 12:02.09 | sepski | try_catch_this, you can powerdown and use WOL (Wake on lan) |
| 12:02.38 | sepski | try_catch_this, you set the bios to allow wake on lan, and use a program at a remote computer to send the wakeonlan packets |
| 12:03.21 | lxuser | can sb tell me where to get new libs ?? please help |
| 12:03.44 | caphuso | lxuser: "new libs"? |
| 12:03.54 | sepski | lxuser, you need to be more spesific |
| 12:04.06 | lxuser | libglib 2 for example |
| 12:04.23 | lxuser | newer then sarge!!? |
| 12:04.29 | _frank | =!?????????????????+ |
| 12:04.35 | try_catch_this | what program can I use to send the wake on lan? |
| 12:04.51 | caphuso | try_catch_this: apt-cache search wake on lan |
| 12:04.59 | try_catch_this | alos I cant ever rember seeing a bios option about wake on lan |
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| 12:05.27 | caphuso | lxuser: newer than glib 2.4.6? |
| 12:05.29 | sepski | try_catch_this, you need a motherboard that support it ofcourse, some nics have a cable you need to place between nic and moterboards |
| 12:05.43 | lxuser | i want mc on woody |
| 12:05.52 | miernik | lxuser: deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid main |
| 12:06.09 | lxuser | this tells me it needs libglib 2 |
| 12:06.14 | try_catch_this | hmmm |
| 12:06.19 | caphuso | lxuser: then upgrade to sarge |
| 12:06.33 | lxuser | how |
| 12:06.38 | intero | caphuso: hello dude, how are you? |
| 12:06.49 | try_catch_this | is this like the option in windows that says allow this device to bring the computer out of sleep mode |
| 12:06.49 | lxuser | is it realesed? |
| 12:06.56 | caphuso | lxuser: /msg dpkg woody->sareg |
| 12:06.58 | caphuso | lxuser: /msg dpkg woody->sarge |
| 12:07.25 | caphuso | intero: fine, for a couple of weeks now :) |
| 12:07.56 | intero | caphuso: finally holidays? |
| 12:08.08 | caphuso | intero: nah, finally no more holidays |
| 12:08.11 | PerfDave | lxuser: Uhm, how are you trying to install mc? |
| 12:08.13 | sepski | try_catch_this, no wake on lan is to power on remotely, sleep mode is different |
| 12:08.35 | intero | caphuso: hahahah :) |
| 12:08.51 | caphuso | intero: believe me, a year of not being able to something useful sucks... |
| 12:09.16 | intero | caphuso: why not able? something else you were ordered to do? |
| 12:09.42 | caphuso | intero: had a lengthy break from studying :-( |
| 12:09.55 | PerfDave | !tell lxuser about msg |
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| 12:10.06 | PerfDave | lxuser: Where did you get that mc .deb from? |
| 12:10.15 | lxuser | from google |
| 12:10.18 | intero | caphuso: oh, sorry. it's very common i think. you got over it now? |
| 12:10.24 | PerfDave | lxuser: No wonder it doesn't work! |
| 12:10.28 | lxuser | some homepage |
| 12:10.44 | PerfDave | lxuser: Just "apt-get install mc", it will install the application and all the libs you need, without causing any library issues. |
| 12:10.44 | caphuso | intero: yeah, started again last monday |
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| 12:11.06 | intero | caphuso: very glad to hear so. welcome back then ;) |
| 12:11.31 | PerfDave | lxuser: Installing random .debs you find on somebody's homepage is a really dumb idea, you never know what they might do. |
| 12:11.50 | lxuser | ok |
| 12:12.08 | lxuser | but i dont get it mc dont work |
| 12:12.21 | PerfDave | lxuser: What you you mean, "doesn't work"? |
| 12:12.47 | PerfDave | Whoa, my brain seems to auto-correct grammar on a subconscious level ;) |
| 12:13.00 | Weeble | PerfDave, it sits on the sofa all day eating snacks and watching TV |
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| 12:13.07 | lxuser | mc: error while loading shared libraries: libglib-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 12:13.10 | lxuser | mc: error while loading shared libraries: libglib-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 12:13.13 | lxuser | mc: error while loading shared libraries: libglib-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
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| 12:13.16 | lxuser | mc: error while loading shared libraries: libglib-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 12:13.19 | lxuser | this is all iget |
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| 12:13.52 | PerfDave | lxuser: That's because you have (somehow) installed the crap version you downloaded from the Internet. You'll have to remove it, then install the working version with apt. |
| 12:14.14 | lxuser | the crap is not installes |
| 12:14.22 | lxuser | ah installed i mean |
| 12:14.44 | PerfDave | lxuser: do "apt-cache policy mc" and tell me what version is installed |
| 12:15.41 | lxuser | apt-cache command not found?? |
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| 12:16.20 | lxuser | sorry i am new in this linux debian stuff |
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| 12:16.31 | caphuso | you're not using debian |
| 12:16.42 | lxuser | i dont know if this the right chan? |
| 12:16.59 | caphuso | lxuser: this is a channel for people using debian. you don't. so go away |
| 12:17.14 | lxuser | i use it |
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| 12:17.22 | caphuso | lxuser: what does 'cat /etc/debian_version' say? |
| 12:17.22 | lxuser | or i want to |
| 12:17.48 | lxuser | 3.0 |
| 12:17.58 | lxuser | it is woody |
| 12:18.16 | caphuso | lxuser: does "/usr/bin/apt-cache policy mc" work? |
| 12:18.33 | PerfDave | caphuso: Damnit, stop asking the questions that I'm typing in ;) |
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| 12:19.02 | caphuso | PerfDave: tell me what questions you are typing in before you type them, then i'll stop ;-) |
| 12:19.04 | lxuser | how do i check this |
| 12:19.08 | lxuser | ? |
| 12:19.14 | caphuso | oh god |
| 12:19.17 | intero | just write that |
| 12:19.19 | PerfDave | lxuser: Type the command "/usr/bin/apt-cache policy mc" and tell us what it says. |
| 12:19.21 | sepski | lol |
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| 12:19.32 | lxuser | k |
| 12:19.41 | Spongebob | anyone here run a toshiba TE2000 laptop? |
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| 12:19.48 | PerfDave | Spongebob: /msg dpkg laptop |
| 12:20.01 | Spongebob | *sigh* |
| 12:20.04 | Spongebob | thanks dave |
| 12:20.10 | Spongebob | *ignored* |
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| 12:20.28 | PerfDave | !tell Spongebob about polls |
| 12:20.44 | lxuser | mc: |
| 12:20.44 | lxuser | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:20.44 | lxuser | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:20.44 | lxuser | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:20.44 | lxuser | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:20.53 | Spongebob | !tell perthdave about lame |
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| 12:21.18 | PerfDave | Thanks, caphuso :) |
| 12:21.35 | caphuso | Spongebob: you'll have a few minutes now in which you can think of a real question to ask |
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| 12:22.45 | PerfDave | Hmm, lxuser never came back :) |
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| 12:23.47 | tim | Gibts hier einen deutschen channel? |
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| 12:23.54 | caphuso | tim: #debian.de |
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| 12:24.15 | tim | aha danke |
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| 12:24.51 | PerfDave | caphuso: What happen? |
| 12:25.02 | caphuso | PerfDave: tried to work around the +q by changing his nick |
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| 12:25.38 | PerfDave | caphuso: Foolish :) |
| 12:25.42 | caphuso | 14:25 [Sponge_bob] prolly just some pindick american anyway fat geeky nerd with no cock |
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| 12:26.11 | caphuso | pindick with no cock ;-) |
| 12:26.16 | intero | heh i was thinking the same |
| 12:26.22 | intero | he's contradicting himself |
| 12:26.23 | intero | hehe |
| 12:26.29 | PerfDave | God, people are so *crap* at insults, aren't they? |
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| 12:27.00 | PerfDave | Anyway, pindick cockless Americans or not, we may have been able to help him with his problem. Bit late now :) |
| 12:27.32 | caphuso | i'd say, his own fault |
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| 12:32.11 | hyksos__ | hi, how can i get the information which major and minor number a special device file has? |
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| 12:33.27 | kerpal23_ | can at do a command eveyr 5 mins or will i have to use cron? |
| 12:33.53 | PerfDave | kerpal23_: If you want a command to run at regular intervals, cron is a better solution than apt. |
| 12:33.56 | dvorak_Fool | */5 * * * * /bin/gg |
| 12:33.57 | dvorak_Fool | :) |
| 12:34.11 | kerpal23_ | PerfDave not if its just for a half hour... |
| 12:34.34 | PerfDave | kerpal23_: For a specific half-hour, or just "every 5 minutes for the half hour after I run the command"? |
| 12:34.52 | kerpal23_ | hmm.. i will just be lame and use watch |
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| 12:35.07 | K_Dallas | morning guys! |
| 12:35.18 | Rawplayer | lo |
| 12:35.19 | hyksos__ | ah with file command i get the major minor, but how can i change it, or is it set from kernel? |
| 12:35.23 | K_Dallas | Q: what should i install to be able to watch avi, mpg, ... movies? |
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| 12:35.32 | Rawplayer | mplayer |
| 12:35.33 | dvorak_Fool | K_Dallas: mplayer i recommend. |
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| 12:35.39 | K_Dallas | codecs? |
| 12:35.43 | Rawplayer | yes |
| 12:35.43 | PerfDave | K_Dallas: vlc, xine, mplayer |
| 12:35.45 | dvorak_Fool | on the mplayer site |
| 12:35.49 | PerfDave | K_Dallas: apt-get install w32codecs :) |
| 12:36.01 | K_Dallas | so w32 + mplayer would do it, right? |
| 12:36.03 | PerfDave | kerpal23_: watch will run until interrupted, you could just loop it 6 times and sleep for 5 seconds on each iteration? |
| 12:36.15 | K_Dallas | going to try it, thanks |
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| 12:36.20 | PerfDave | K_Dallas: Also noatun in KDE |
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| 12:36.34 | K_Dallas | thanks |
| 12:37.02 | K_Dallas | now i need a repository for that w32 :) |
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| 12:37.15 | K_Dallas | not found on my default one |
| 12:37.35 | K_Dallas | not even mplayer :( |
| 12:37.40 | PerfDave | mplayer isn't in Debian |
| 12:37.43 | PerfDave | !tell K_Dallas about mplayer |
| 12:37.50 | Kasreyn | how do you burn cue/bin with cdrecord ? |
| 12:37.56 | K_Dallas | thanks PerfDave |
| 12:38.13 | K_Dallas | kas: asaik cdrecord doesnt recognize bin/cue |
| 12:38.20 | K_Dallas | i use bchunk to convert |
| 12:38.24 | Mycot | PerfDave, #mplayer |
| 12:38.24 | Mycot | deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main |
| 12:38.28 | K_Dallas | but k3b knows about bin/cue |
| 12:38.35 | K_Dallas | thanks mycot |
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| 12:38.47 | nk___ | hi there. I need a small app. a kind of organizer. like... I can write a to-do list that is displayed on the desktop or s.th. similar. any suggestions? |
| 12:39.01 | K_Dallas | nk_, i use evolution |
| 12:39.05 | K_Dallas | not small though |
| 12:39.13 | K_Dallas | kde has planner i think |
| 12:39.20 | PerfDave | Mycot: Uhm, the factoid I just gave K_Dallas has all the info you need in :) |
| 12:39.21 | K_Dallas | also mozilla comes with a calndar |
| 12:39.49 | nk___ | K_Dallas, right, it's not small enough. and since I'm running ubuntu, there's just gnome, no kde |
| 12:40.04 | K_Dallas | why not mozilla-calendar |
| 12:40.06 | PerfDave | nk___: If you want ubuntu help, go to #ubuntu |
| 12:40.23 | K_Dallas | ubuntu is a distro? |
| 12:40.25 | nk___ | PerfDave, bah... ubuntu is debian, this was a general question, does not really depend on the distro |
| 12:40.38 | PerfDave | Ubuntu is not Debian. Debian has KDE. |
| 12:40.43 | K_Dallas | :) |
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| 12:40.49 | nk___ | PerfDave, in the inner core, ubuntu IS debian |
| 12:40.51 | PerfDave | K_Dallas: It's a timed-release Debian-based distro. |
| 12:40.59 | PerfDave | !tell nk___ about debian based |
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| 12:41.03 | K_Dallas | i see |
| 12:41.15 | nk___ | PerfDave, nevertheless, my question was not distro-dependant |
| 12:41.20 | PerfDave | K_Dallas: Also has no KDE because it's made by losers ;) |
| 12:41.36 | brisling | where can i find the newest set of installation floppydisk image for debian? |
| 12:41.41 | PerfDave | nk___: Evidently it was, because you were given solutions which work on Debian but don't work on Ubuntu :) |
| 12:41.43 | K_Dallas | ;) |
| 12:41.45 | nk___ | PerfDave, *shrug* add debian sources, install kde - et voila, there it is |
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| 12:41.50 | PerfDave | brisling: For which flavour of Debian? |
| 12:42.05 | brisling | the newest version |
| 12:42.07 | PerfDave | nk___: That's nice for you. Run along now. |
| 12:42.11 | PerfDave | brisling: /msg dpkg d-i |
| 12:42.19 | nk___ | PerfDave, no |
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| 12:42.57 | PerfDave | Oh god, wait, it's Sunday, it's the day the retards all come out of the woodwork in even greater force than they normally do... |
| 12:43.01 | brisling | thx |
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| 12:43.07 | K_Dallas | what ftp client people here use? gftp, ncftp, ...? |
| 12:43.17 | syntaxis | nk___: you could try the 'goats' app |
| 12:43.28 | nk___ | syntaxis, ah nice, I'll have a look, thx |
| 12:43.36 | Kasperl | K_Dallas: gftp |
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| 12:43.51 | K_Dallas | ok |
| 12:44.24 | PerfDave | K_Dallas: ftp :) |
| 12:44.41 | K_Dallas | :) |
| 12:44.43 | nk___ | K_Dallas, lftp |
| 12:44.53 | K_Dallas | lftp? not tried it |
| 12:45.00 | sepski | ncftp |
| 12:45.17 | K_Dallas | i like ncftp but i just saw a ncftp2, with ncurse support |
| 12:45.23 | syntaxis | K_Dallas: lftp supports fish |
| 12:45.29 | K_Dallas | fish? |
| 12:46.09 | thomas_adam | hehe, 'mc' can be made to use it, too. |
| 12:46.34 | thomas_adam | Quite why you would need/want to, is another matter entirly. |
| 12:46.44 | thomas_adam | s/entirly/entirely/ |
| 12:47.21 | syntaxis | K_Dallas: http://www.linuxmafia.com/faq/Security/fish-protocol.html :-) |
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| 12:48.44 | K_Dallas | i tried: deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main, but could not get the stats from :( |
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| 12:49.13 | K_Dallas | thanks syntaxis , got the idea |
| 12:49.32 | wuehlmaus | hi, all. can someone tell me the trick how to watch manpages with less and with color. i envy hakin9-lifecd which for the first time showed me this is possible with less and not with most alone. |
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| 12:50.06 | Kasperl | K_Dallas: yafc is another good choice |
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| 12:50.51 | K_Dallas | i will look into it |
| 12:51.13 | gabboc | hi |
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| 12:53.35 | PerfDave | wuehlmaus: Installing less should mean that it is automatically used for manpages |
| 12:53.49 | wuehlmaus | yes, but that was not my question |
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| 12:54.44 | PerfDave | No, but it's a start. |
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