| 00:00.14 | jaymes | but it completely freezes the machine; no alphalock, no ssh, etc. |
| 00:00.38 | jaymes | I haven't tried sysreq stuff yet, haven't been that desperate |
| 00:01.09 | gwllosa | Does anyone have a solution for the status stuff that doesn't involve re-installing the OS? |
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| 00:01.28 | jaymes | I just uninstalled noflushd...we'll see if that's the problem first perhaps |
| 00:02.05 | jaymes | anyway; how do I "mark" kernel modules (in 2.6) to not load |
| 00:02.17 | jaymes | like an anti-/etc/modules |
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| 00:02.48 | peterS | jaymes: /etc/hotplug/blacklist |
| 00:02.54 | peterS | jaymes: /etc/discover.conf |
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| 00:03.08 | jaymes | hah, I knew it |
| 00:03.16 | jaymes | I just wasn't looking in the right spot |
| 00:03.21 | jaymes | thanks |
| 00:03.40 | peterS | jaymes: those two locations are because modules are loaded by both packages, discover and hotplug, depending on how they are detected |
| 00:03.55 | FUF | Anyone know how I can rebuild my /var/lib/dpkg/available? It's corrupted.. |
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| 00:04.16 | peterS | FUF: restore from /var/backups/ |
| 00:04.30 | peterS | FUF: or, wait, just 'dselect update' |
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| 00:04.42 | FUF | latter seems a better option :) |
| 00:04.44 | peterS | FUF: possibly after renaming the existing one so it won't be found |
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| 00:05.20 | jharrisonwk | im hungry |
| 00:05.23 | FUF | all fixed :) |
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| 00:05.37 | jharrisonwk | I want some meat |
| 00:05.38 | FUF | btw, only dpkg-related files i saw in /var/backups was dpkg.status |
| 00:05.40 | jaymes | good deal; I think hotplug was doing loading it (apm) |
| 00:05.44 | peterS | jharrisonwk: arrrgh, so am I. thanks for reminding me :/ |
| 00:05.55 | jharrisonwk | I want all the meat |
| 00:06.04 | jharrisonwk | peterS: lets go get some food |
| 00:06.08 | jaymes | is acpi stable yet? |
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| 00:06.18 | peterS | jharrisonwk: sounds like a plan. what are you hungry for? |
| 00:06.32 | jharrisonwk | peterS: chicken madras |
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| 00:06.40 | jharrisonwk | mmmmmmmmm yummy |
| 00:06.44 | peterS | jharrisonwk: not sure what that is, but it sounds reasonable |
| 00:06.45 | jharrisonwk | no no no |
| 00:06.50 | jaymes | what's chicken madras? |
| 00:06.54 | jharrisonwk | lamb madras |
| 00:06.57 | jharrisonwk | its indian food |
| 00:06.59 | Peppito | Question: I do lspci to list in order to supply Xconfiguration my video cards identifier. Can anyone give me an example of how I would type in this Identifier in Xconfiguration? My card has hex numbers: 0000:03:00.1 |
| 00:07.03 | jaymes | I see |
| 00:07.04 | jharrisonwk | its a mild curry |
| 00:07.12 | peterS | mild curries are usually good |
| 00:07.13 | jharrisonwk | its spicey |
| 00:07.15 | jharrisonwk | but not too hot |
| 00:07.20 | jaymes | just spiced then? |
| 00:07.22 | jharrisonwk | if you want hot you get vindalu |
| 00:07.24 | jaymes | no veggies? |
| 00:07.32 | jharrisonwk | yes it comes with veggies |
| 00:07.40 | jharrisonwk | and unleavened bread |
| 00:07.43 | jharrisonwk | they call it a nan |
| 00:07.45 | jaymes | ohhh |
| 00:07.47 | jharrisonwk | I like garlic nan |
| 00:07.48 | jharrisonwk | mmmmmmmmm |
| 00:07.53 | jaymes | that sounds pretty good |
| 00:07.57 | jharrisonwk | and they have yogurt drinks |
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| 00:08.01 | jharrisonwk | with rum in it |
| 00:08.03 | jaymes | no indian near where I live tho |
| 00:08.04 | jharrisonwk | mmmmmmmmm |
| 00:08.08 | jharrisonwk | im soooo hungry now |
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| 00:08.22 | jharrisonwk | we have a few nice indian places |
| 00:08.26 | jharrisonwk | one called clay oven |
| 00:08.32 | jharrisonwk | and one called gaylord's |
| 00:08.43 | jaymes | gaylord's? |
| 00:08.47 | jharrisonwk | yep |
| 00:08.51 | jaymes | and it's indian? |
| 00:08.54 | jharrisonwk | yes |
| 00:08.56 | jaymes | heh |
| 00:08.58 | jharrisonwk | authentic |
| 00:09.00 | Xshare | british indians |
| 00:09.02 | Xshare | :-/ |
| 00:09.04 | jaymes | oh, ok |
| 00:09.12 | Xshare | you'd think so |
| 00:09.15 | jharrisonwk | both places are authentic |
| 00:09.24 | jharrisonwk | however clay oven has native waitresses |
| 00:09.25 | odium | why do good ideas for applications turn into bloated slow apps? |
| 00:09.41 | Peppito | Question: I do lspci to list bus location of my AGP card, in order to supply Xconfiguration my video cards bus identifier. Can anyone give me an example of how I would type in this Identifier in Xconfiguration? My vid card has hex numbers: 0000:03:00.1 -- Note * Rephrased maybe now you can understand me better |
| 00:09.41 | jaymes | mmmm, native waitresses |
| 00:09.47 | jaymes | :) |
| 00:09.49 | odium | ditto |
| 00:09.52 | jharrisonwk | gaylord's has all indian people |
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| 00:10.06 | peterS | Peppito: most of the time you leave that question blank, because you only have one of some particular type of video card |
| 00:10.10 | jharrisonwk | so there are no black waitresses in gaylord's |
| 00:10.12 | jharrisonwk | only in clay oven |
| 00:10.18 | jaymes | I was thinking native indians |
| 00:10.21 | jharrisonwk | no no |
| 00:10.25 | jharrisonwk | natives of the bahamas |
| 00:10.27 | Peppito | peters: i'll leave that blank then |
| 00:10.28 | jharrisonwk | where I live |
| 00:10.38 | peterS | Peppito: but if you have more than one card that use the same driver, so that you need to specify, say 3:0:1 |
| 00:10.40 | jaymes | uh huh |
| 00:11.09 | jaymes | you realize, when you tell people that, your immediately making enemies :) |
| 00:11.17 | jaymes | s/your/you're/ |
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| 00:11.59 | jazzka | any program that can manage .ape files? |
| 00:12.06 | jaymes | I live in Pennsylvania; people are starting to wear gloves |
| 00:12.31 | jharrisonwk | ouch |
| 00:12.33 | jharrisonwk | too cold for me |
| 00:12.46 | jharrisonwk | of course its about 70s at night here now and people are starting to wear gloves too |
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| 00:12.52 | jharrisonwk | :-P |
| 00:12.58 | jaymes | they're the furriners, but it is getting a bit chilly for shorts |
| 00:13.10 | jharrisonwk | yeah here too |
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| 00:13.22 | jaymes | crazy |
| 00:13.24 | jharrisonwk | hehe |
| 00:13.34 | juancho | anybody can send me a copy for the sources.list to upgrade to sarge? |
| 00:13.44 | jharrisonwk | juancho: not me said the flea |
| 00:13.47 | jaymes | I loved it when I went to school (Bucknell) and the California beach bunnies were exposed to cold |
| 00:13.56 | jaymes | they wilt |
| 00:14.07 | juancho | what¿ |
| 00:14.11 | jharrisonwk | heh |
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| 00:14.31 | jaymes | juancho, check out http://www.apt-get.org |
| 00:14.32 | jharrisonwk | juancho: you've got your ? upside down there buddy |
| 00:14.48 | jaymes | oh |
| 00:15.03 | daedx | I've download some big rared files, verified them with par2 but when I extract them with unrar -x it doesnt work ... neither with ark ... what do you guy suggest? |
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| 00:15.16 | jaymes | actually, I think you want apt-get upgrade or something like that |
| 00:15.24 | jharrisonwk | !tell Pepptio about root |
| 00:15.34 | green_earz | juancho, can you use apt-setup to pick a source ? |
| 00:15.37 | jaymes | but be careful with that |
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| 00:16.01 | jaymes | apt-setup...? |
| 00:16.03 | Sensebend | I have a problem and was wondering if someone could helpme |
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| 00:16.10 | Peppito_ | I was so excited I logged in as root |
| 00:16.16 | jharrisonwk | Sensebend: perhaps... perhaps not |
| 00:16.21 | jaymes | well that's nifty |
| 00:16.22 | jharrisonwk | Peppito_: :) |
| 00:16.31 | Peppito_ | I finally got GDM TO RUN!!! |
| 00:16.33 | Peppito_ | I love you guys |
| 00:16.33 | jharrisonwk | !tell Sensebend about ask |
| 00:16.35 | jaymes | I hadn't seen that before |
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| 00:16.43 | Peppito_ | If I had a million bucks I'd share it with you guys |
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| 00:16.56 | Sensebend | basically I mounted my portable hdd using mount -t vfat /dev/scd1 /media/USBHDD/ |
| 00:17.00 | jharrisonwk | Peppito_: I thought I have seen you here before. Guess I was quick on the trigger |
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| 00:17.01 | green_earz | jaymes: so you got things moving then ? |
| 00:17.03 | jaymes | would you buy some pre-wrapped bacon? |
| 00:17.03 | Sensebend | and I can see the files on my portable HDD |
| 00:17.15 | Sensebend | but the directories also show up as files |
| 00:17.15 | bailey | How do i remove KDE and ALL of the crap that it installs on your computer?????? |
| 00:17.16 | Peppito_ | Thanks for telling me I was logged on root |
| 00:17.24 | jharrisonwk | Peppito_: no problem |
| 00:17.31 | jaymes | green_earz, not me |
| 00:17.43 | daedx | I've download some big rared files, verified them with par2 but when I extract them with unrar -x it doesnt work ... neither with ark ... what do you guy suggest? |
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| 00:17.49 | Sensebend | so I can't access the files in the directories within the drive |
| 00:17.49 | green_earz | jaymes: sorry |
| 00:17.55 | jaymes | green_earz, np |
| 00:18.06 | jharrisonwk | daedx: I would suggest using unrar from the non-free section |
| 00:18.10 | jharrisonwk | daedx: you pirate you |
| 00:18.23 | jaymes | yeah really |
| 00:18.29 | jaymes | why not just use winrar |
| 00:18.40 | jharrisonwk | NO! |
| 00:18.46 | jharrisonwk | winrar!? |
| 00:18.47 | jaymes | I've never seen linux software in .rar |
| 00:18.50 | Sensebend | so does anyone have an answer to my problem? |
| 00:19.01 | jaymes | what's wrong with winrar |
| 00:19.12 | jharrisonwk | jaymes: it runs on windoze |
| 00:19.20 | jaymes | oh, there's that |
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| 00:19.21 | bailey | Does anyone know how i Remove KDE and All of its Programs it installs??? |
| 00:19.21 | jharrisonwk | jaymes: which is the fundamental problem |
| 00:19.24 | daedx | jharrisonwk: Hell yeah! rar == juarez pr0n and isoZ |
| 00:19.37 | jharrisonwk | daedx: um ok |
| 00:19.44 | jharrisonwk | daedx: you pirate |
| 00:19.47 | bailey | Does anyone know how i Remove KDE and All of its Programs it installs??? |
| 00:19.48 | jaymes | but technically, it could be running on wine |
| 00:19.55 | jaymes | and that would be ok, wouldn't it? |
| 00:20.01 | jharrisonwk | yeah I suppose |
| 00:20.13 | Peppito_ | is it safe for me to do killall gdm;gdm while using gdm |
| 00:20.13 | jharrisonwk | bailey: did you use aptitude? |
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| 00:20.25 | jharrisonwk | Peppito_: um if you dont mind loosing gdm |
| 00:20.26 | peterS | Peppito_: better just to /etc/init.d/gdm restart |
| 00:20.29 | abrotman | bailey: start by removing libqt |
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| 00:20.37 | peterS | Peppito_: you might find yourself logged out in the process |
| 00:20.38 | witless | the gweather applet is unable to connect to the weather data source. anyone know how to fix? |
| 00:20.39 | jharrisonwk | Peppito_: yeah thats beter |
| 00:20.44 | Peppito_ | peters: thank you |
| 00:20.53 | daedx | jharrisonwk: Actually, I was sarcastic |
| 00:21.00 | Peppito_ | wow I am fascinated by gdm |
| 00:21.13 | jharrisonwk | daedx: no problem. Im a pirate myself |
| 00:21.21 | jaymes | arrr! |
| 00:21.21 | jharrisonwk | daedx: I wear a patch and everything |
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| 00:21.28 | jharrisonwk | arrrr! matey! |
| 00:21.34 | jharrisonwk | !rum jaymes |
| 00:21.35 | dpkg | jaymes: But the rum is never gone! |
| 00:21.46 | jharrisonwk | damn it |
| 00:21.48 | jharrisonwk | the rum is gone |
| 00:21.48 | jaymes | I could go someplace with that, but I won't |
| 00:21.54 | jharrisonwk | !rum jharrisonwk |
| 00:21.55 | dpkg | jharrisonwk: But the rum is never gone! |
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| 00:22.22 | jharrisonwk | how can pirates not have their rum |
| 00:22.29 | abrotman | tequila! |
| 00:22.32 | jaymes | what's that dead man's chest song? |
| 00:22.43 | abrotman | yo ho ho |
| 00:22.43 | jaymes | they could have grog |
| 00:22.49 | jaymes | or is that the same thing |
| 00:22.50 | abrotman | yo ho ho and a bottle of rum |
| 00:22.59 | jaymes | what's the part before that |
| 00:23.01 | abrotman | from treasure island |
| 00:23.04 | abrotman | that's the beginning |
| 00:23.09 | jaymes | oh |
| 00:23.21 | abrotman | http://sailorsongs.com/yo_ho_ho_and_a_bottle_of_rum____.htm |
| 00:23.23 | abrotman | or so i though |
| 00:23.24 | abrotman | t |
| 00:23.53 | jaymes | lol, sailorsongs |
| 00:24.02 | abrotman | who knew |
| 00:24.02 | jharrisonwk | abrotman! |
| 00:24.06 | jharrisonwk | !beer abrotman |
| 00:24.11 | abrotman | jharrisonwk: why are you at work? |
| 00:24.22 | jaymes | dpkg, quite so, my good man |
| 00:24.22 | dpkg | jaymes: bugger all, i dunno |
| 00:24.23 | jharrisonwk | abrotman: problem with one of our carriers |
| 00:24.27 | abrotman | uh oh |
| 00:24.27 | jaymes | LOL |
| 00:24.28 | abrotman | fire them |
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| 00:24.36 | jharrisonwk | abrotman: fire who? |
| 00:24.42 | abrotman | the carrier :) |
| 00:24.48 | jharrisonwk | abrotman: no cant do that |
| 00:24.53 | abrotman | sure you can |
| 00:24.57 | jharrisonwk | abrotman: mci/uunet you dont want to fire |
| 00:25.01 | abrotman | oh |
| 00:25.06 | abrotman | i guess :) |
| 00:25.20 | abrotman | god .. mci/sprint/uunet is such a mess |
| 00:25.22 | jharrisonwk | abrotman: CARRIER == people who give us upstream bandwidth |
| 00:25.22 | jaymes | I'd like to get rid of AT&T |
| 00:25.30 | jharrisonwk | NO! |
| 00:25.33 | figfig | does anyone know if there is a way to automatically run saxon or xalan when the user executes a stylesheet in bash? In other words, if I type "./stylesheet.xsl file.xml", can this run saxon or xalan? |
| 00:25.38 | jharrisonwk | we ned at&t also |
| 00:25.40 | jharrisonwk | :-P |
| 00:25.40 | jaymes | but I don't think I have any other choices |
| 00:25.48 | jharrisonwk | s/ned/need |
| 00:25.58 | jaymes | I'm saying for my employer |
| 00:26.05 | abrotman | get satellite :) |
| 00:26.06 | Aan | Hi. What's the best Debian for a modern system with bluetooth and usb wifi support? |
| 00:26.17 | jaymes | yeah right :) |
| 00:26.18 | jharrisonwk | abrotman: we like fibre better |
| 00:26.25 | directhex | Aan, a sarge-shaped one |
| 00:26.26 | jaymes | how about packet radio |
| 00:26.29 | abrotman | figfig: uhm .. wrong channel? |
| 00:26.31 | jaymes | microwave |
| 00:26.33 | peterS | figfig: investigate what's known as 'binfmt_misc' |
| 00:26.36 | Aan | directhex.. ic.. |
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| 00:26.53 | jaymes | gah, brb |
| 00:26.57 | Aan | I remember someone maintaining a CD installable Sarge... |
| 00:26.59 | peterS | figfig: it's a kernel module that allows you to "execute" files basically as scripts of other programs, without the file starting with #! and the interpreter's path |
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| 00:27.13 | metrix | I vote for pigeon carrier |
| 00:27.18 | metrix | pigeon over ethernet perhaps? |
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| 00:27.26 | jharrisonwk | Aan: you can download full sarge cds or the netinstaller for sarge via bittorrent |
| 00:27.29 | jharrisonwk | Aan: or whatever meets your fancy |
| 00:27.33 | metrix | excuse tcp over pigeon carrier |
| 00:27.33 | abrotman | Aan: d-i ? |
| 00:27.37 | abrotman | !d-i |
| 00:27.37 | dpkg | it has been said that d-i is the new installer for sarge (debian 3.1), at http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ or see #debian-boot |
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| 00:27.48 | Aan | oh.. |
| 00:27.58 | jharrisonwk | abrotman: didy ou ask your vegan question? |
| 00:28.05 | abrotman | jharrisonwk: i did |
| 00:28.09 | figfig | peterS: Thanks! I will look into it. |
| 00:28.10 | abrotman | jharrisonwk: you missed it |
| 00:28.12 | jharrisonwk | abrotman: so what was it? |
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| 00:28.17 | Aan | dpkg, thanks.. checking that chan out right now. |
| 00:28.18 | dpkg | Aan: de nada |
| 00:28.23 | directhex | was the aanswer insightful & involved cappage? |
| 00:28.28 | abrotman | jharrisonwk: i wanted to know . if helix .. as a vegan .. feeds her cats vegan food :) |
| 00:28.32 | jharrisonwk | abrotman: my wife use to be vegan |
| 00:28.34 | jharrisonwk | hehe |
| 00:28.38 | directhex | *cabbage |
| 00:28.40 | jharrisonwk | abrotman: are you vegan? |
| 00:28.43 | peterS | figfig: one thing about binfmt_misc - it goes by file contents, not file name, as you have in Windows |
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| 00:28.44 | abrotman | hell no |
| 00:28.51 | jharrisonwk | abrotman: me either. I eat all the meat |
| 00:28.55 | jharrisonwk | ALL the meat |
| 00:28.57 | abrotman | if it bleeds ... i eat it |
| 00:28.59 | peterS | figfig: another thing about it - your files that you want to "execute" must have execute permission |
| 00:29.00 | jharrisonwk | yeah |
| 00:29.14 | MeanGene | hello - i want to donate a PC that is 4y.o. - who should I call - Salvation Army? |
| 00:29.16 | abrotman | oh . except bi-valves |
| 00:29.21 | jaymes | Yo ho ho |
| 00:29.27 | witless | abrotman: you seem pretty proud about eating meat |
| 00:29.31 | figfig | peterS: contents? Must be somewhat complicated (internally that is). |
| 00:29.33 | jharrisonwk | abrotman: if you were here we could go get some lamb madras |
| 00:29.34 | abrotman | witless: so what? |
| 00:29.37 | odium | MeanGene, send it here. |
| 00:29.43 | peterS | figfig: nah, that's how other executables in Linux work already |
| 00:29.46 | directhex | MeanGene, there are a bunch of charities that'd love that for schools in africa |
| 00:29.46 | MeanGene | you pay shipping? |
| 00:29.46 | witless | just an observation. |
| 00:29.47 | jharrisonwk | abrotman: with curry veggies and garlic nans |
| 00:29.48 | jharrisonwk | mmmmmmmmm |
| 00:29.51 | abrotman | witless: and? |
| 00:29.57 | jaymes | abrotman, I could go somewhere with that too |
| 00:30.01 | witless | and defensive ;-) |
| 00:30.04 | abrotman | and? |
| 00:30.04 | peterS | figfig: for example, all ELF executables start with the four bytes 0x7f E L F, and that's how the kernel knows to execute them as ELF files |
| 00:30.09 | jaymes | garlic nuns? |
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| 00:30.21 | MeanGene | I can even give it away with Deb pre-installed (my /home is a separate partition) |
| 00:30.29 | abrotman | witless: i eat meat ... i don't see the big deal |
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| 00:30.36 | peterS | figfig: and scripts are run as scripts because the kernel sees that they start with the two bytes #! |
| 00:30.37 | jharrisonwk | jaymes: you know abrotman ? |
| 00:30.44 | jaymes | nope |
| 00:30.48 | jharrisonwk | jaymes: you and him are from the same state |
| 00:30.52 | abrotman | no way |
| 00:30.55 | odium | I was joaking but considering it's prolly better than the 200mhz puter I'm currently using and taht your in jersy. maybee. |
| 00:30.58 | abrotman | i'm from the state of meat eaters!! |
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| 00:31.06 | jharrisonwk | well im not from PA |
| 00:31.10 | jharrisonwk | but eat the meat |
| 00:31.10 | directhex | meet! |
| 00:31.17 | jaymes | nifty |
| 00:31.22 | sussudio | s/eat/beat/ |
| 00:31.27 | jaymes | is that pottstown? |
| 00:31.31 | abrotman | jaymes: you live in levitttown? |
| 00:31.33 | witless | abrotman: i just think it's disgusting and unnecessary :-) |
| 00:31.39 | abrotman | witless: tough shit |
| 00:31.43 | jaymes | no, huntingdon county |
| 00:31.47 | odium | lol |
| 00:31.50 | abrotman | witless: i don't care what you think .. you're not responsible for my stomach |
| 00:31.53 | witless | hehehe. i've had this conversation before. sleep tight. |
| 00:31.54 | jaymes | I can be more specific, but it won't do you any good |
| 00:32.05 | jaymes | night |
| 00:32.05 | abrotman | jaymes: ah .. i used to date a girl in altoona |
| 00:32.07 | jharrisonwk | why ive been known to eat the neighbors dog |
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| 00:32.21 | jaymes | abrotman, that's getting there |
| 00:32.22 | sussudio | witless: you're the fruitarian troll, right? |
| 00:32.22 | abrotman | jaymes: and have a friend teaching . in . huntingdon valley i think |
| 00:32.22 | witless | and by dog he means the unattractive girl next door |
| 00:32.30 | witless | wha? |
| 00:32.36 | figfig | peterS: for an xslt stylesheet, the determination is complicated. The file starts with <?xml version="1.0" ?>, but all xml files do. The stylesheet is determined by the root element after this (not necessarily right after it), which usually looks like <xsl:stylesheet xmlns:xsl="...">, but the "xsl" can be anything as long as it appears in both places, and whitespace is customizable. Also, the stylesheet tag can also be somet |
| 00:32.36 | figfig | hing else. |
| 00:32.43 | witless | "fruitarian"? |
| 00:32.43 | jcole_s91 | i'm trying to install a new debian system based on a package list from another system... i have the package list... i tried to create a synaptic file in the format of "package-name install" then loaded it... when i click apply some errors occur... i want synaptic to remove packages form the list that it is having problems with... how do i do that? |
| 00:32.44 | jharrisonwk | witless: I come from a land of savages |
| 00:32.45 | heitor | I have used apt-get install kernel-source-2.4.27. Unpacked and then used ln -s kerne... linux. When I try to enter /usr/src/linux and type make menuconfig, I got this error: Unable to find the Ncurses libraries. Anyone can tell me what to do? |
| 00:32.45 | abrotman | jaymes: there's no big towns there eh? |
| 00:33.01 | dondelelcaro | heitor: install libncurses5-dev |
| 00:33.01 | sussudio | !fruitsmite witless |
| 00:33.02 | directhex | !b-e heitor |
| 00:33.02 | jaymes | abrotman, nope; huntingdon is the closest |
| 00:33.02 | dpkg | heitor: Sounds like you need to install build-essential. |
| 00:33.07 | abrotman | !tell jcole_s91 about debian clone |
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| 00:33.15 | jaymes | abrotman, they have a college there; but that's not saying much |
| 00:33.20 | figfig | peterS: would something complicated like that break binfmt_misc? |
| 00:33.22 | jharrisonwk | mmmmm mangos |
| 00:33.22 | peterS | figfig: it may be necessary to tell binfmt_misc to recognise just the <?xml line, and pass the file to a wrapper executable that figures out exactly what to do with it |
| 00:33.27 | toyo_school | anyone know where the config file is for kcmkrfb |
| 00:33.27 | witless | jharrison: i'm german by birth, and in germany any meal with less than four meats is considered substandard. |
| 00:33.30 | abrotman | heitor: apt-get install libncurses-dev |
| 00:33.33 | jharrisonwk | our mango tree should be bearing soon |
| 00:33.35 | jharrisonwk | yummy |
| 00:33.37 | figfig | peterS: That makes sense! |
| 00:33.42 | abrotman | jaymes: yeah . south of state college |
| 00:33.45 | witless | you have a mango tree? lucky bastid |
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| 00:33.50 | heitor | dpkg and dondelelcaro , thanks |
| 00:33.50 | dpkg | i don't know, heitor |
| 00:33.56 | jharrisonwk | mango and fish eyes |
| 00:33.56 | witless | i had some mango lemonade the other day - delic |
| 00:33.57 | jaymes | abrotman, yep |
| 00:33.58 | jharrisonwk | mmmmmmmm |
| 00:34.05 | abrotman | jaymes: sorry :) |
| 00:34.11 | jaymes | abrotman, lol |
| 00:34.17 | abrotman | jaymes: i'm over by philly |
| 00:34.23 | figfig | peterS: Of course, then the xml executor could route to what the normal processor is. |
| 00:34.31 | peterS | figfig: right |
| 00:34.43 | sussudio | <mumblemumble>philawebbia |
| 00:34.43 | peterS | figfig: so, the binfmt_misc module already comes with your kernel. to make use of it, you probably want the debian package 'binfmt-support' |
| 00:34.46 | jaymes | abrotman, it's not too bad, I found a job near home; pay is crap, but not for the area |
| 00:34.51 | odium | What it is. |
| 00:34.58 | jharrisonwk | abrotman: jaymes: I have family near um some place starts with H |
| 00:34.58 | witless | and what it be smellin like |
| 00:34.59 | abrotman | jaymes: you found a job out there? |
| 00:35.01 | peterS | figfig: I *think* this is not in debian stable, but I could be wrong |
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| 00:35.08 | abrotman | jharrisonwk: none of those in PA :) |
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| 00:35.12 | jharrisonwk | harrisville? |
| 00:35.19 | abrotman | jharrisonwk: hersey,harrisburg,harleysville ? |
| 00:35.22 | sussudio | badgerville? |
| 00:35.24 | jaymes | abrotman, yeah; small business; IT Manager & AV Designer |
| 00:35.25 | jharrisonwk | harrisburg |
| 00:35.25 | jharrisonwk | tahts it |
| 00:35.26 | GOTH | hello |
| 00:35.26 | figfig | peterS: I might be a special case. I am using unstable but compiled my own kernel. |
| 00:35.32 | abrotman | jaymes: not bad |
| 00:35.38 | jharrisonwk | abrotman: that would be farmin country |
| 00:35.39 | sussudio | !gothsmite GOTH |
| 00:35.39 | odium | jive. |
| 00:35.40 | peterS | figfig: ahh. so, you may or may not have included the binfmt_misc module |
| 00:35.44 | abrotman | jharrisonwk: i've got friends there |
| 00:35.45 | GOTH | i have a question regarding debian on a mac |
| 00:35.53 | abrotman | jharrisonwk: it's not bad .. harrisburg is the PA capitol |
| 00:35.53 | sussudio | #debianppc |
| 00:36.00 | jharrisonwk | abrotman: I use to eat the corn |
| 00:36.01 | jharrisonwk | mmmmmmm |
| 00:36.05 | GOTH | ok srry |
| 00:36.05 | abrotman | eww |
| 00:36.09 | jharrisonwk | abrotman: its good |
| 00:36.10 | abrotman | i used to shuck corn |
| 00:36.11 | sussudio | jharrisonwk: in soviet russia, the corn eats you |
| 00:36.11 | jaymes | abrotman, I like it; I get to run around all the time; I was in pittsburgh today & last week I was in malvern (near philly) |
| 00:36.18 | jharrisonwk | sussudio: I wouldnt nkow |
| 00:36.19 | witless | anyone know why the gweather applet isn't working? |
| 00:36.20 | jharrisonwk | know |
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| 00:36.24 | abrotman | i know where malvern is . i work in state college |
| 00:36.32 | abrotman | err work in king of prussia |
| 00:36.34 | figfig | peterS: does it come with the 2.6 kernel (ie- I can just compile it with the correct option) or do I need to get it. |
| 00:36.37 | sussudio | jharrisonwk: your intestines are the dipsauce |
| 00:36.38 | odium | the weather isn't working. |
| 00:36.49 | peterS | figfig: it's been included in the standard kernel since 2.2.0 or so |
| 00:36.57 | sussudio | o_O |
| 00:37.03 | directhex | O_o |
| 00:37.05 | sussudio | "the weather isn't working."? |
| 00:37.09 | figfig | peterS: Great. That is all I needed. Thanks for your help. It was very useful! |
| 00:37.13 | Piggy | o_o |
| 00:37.14 | peterS | figfig: good luck |
| 00:37.15 | directhex | the weatehr segfaulted |
| 00:37.30 | jaymes | it "blue screened" :) |
| 00:37.35 | peterS | jaymes: hehe |
| 00:37.40 | sussudio | the weather did a coredump on florida |
| 00:37.47 | abrotman | !punish sqwrlclaw |
| 00:37.49 | odium | lol |
| 00:37.49 | directhex | the perlin noise function it uses to draw clouds had a nasty pointer-based memory leak |
| 00:38.12 | witless | and when that happens, it rains |
| 00:38.16 | directhex | hell yeah |
| 00:38.19 | directhex | or worse |
| 00:38.33 | odium | so there's you dang forcast. |
| 00:38.38 | directhex | all that mild precipitation was being stored in the "kill florida" stack |
| 00:38.43 | smurfd | hey all, i was wondering, what version/brand of Java you run, as a plugin for Mozilla (ie. Blackdown, sun, other?) |
| 00:38.45 | odium | sp/you/your |
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| 00:39.02 | odium | Sun's |
| 00:39.03 | directhex | smurfd, that's a poll, and i made a .deb using mpkg-j2se and a java.sun.com .bin file |
| 00:39.10 | sussudio | directhex: just a mild warning to jeb not to fiddle with the ballots again |
| 00:39.25 | jharrisonwk | sussudio: arrrggg! |
| 00:39.26 | jaymes | I run a custom-written version especially made for my computer |
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| 00:39.32 | directhex | sussudio, did you notice how the huricanes actively swerved to avoid counties that voted democrat? |
| 00:39.40 | jharrisonwk | sussudio: them be fightin words thar matey |
| 00:39.44 | directhex | jaymes, of the weather? |
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| 00:39.52 | grigora | anyone knows how to force mkisofs not to descend into the ipnut directories but rather create those directories on the image (vs their contents)? thanks |
| 00:39.53 | jaymes | directhex, no, java |
| 00:39.54 | smurfd | okey.. and this is working good for you? cus it seems to be hogging alot of resources for me? |
| 00:39.59 | jaymes | and I'm lying |
| 00:40.05 | jharrisonwk | whoops |
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| 00:40.12 | jharrisonwk | my aim is a little off |
| 00:40.22 | sussudio | !fist jharrisonwk |
| 00:40.28 | jaymes | so now he has two holes... |
| 00:40.29 | jharrisonwk | pppfffftttt |
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| 00:40.35 | jharrisonwk | im imune to dpkg |
| 00:40.46 | jharrisonwk | hehe |
| 00:40.49 | jharrisonwk | ok |
| 00:40.53 | jharrisonwk | time to go eat dinner |
| 00:40.56 | MerlinCorey | so... is there any sort of following that feels you should build custom kernels with initrd for whatever reason, or am I all good building my kernels with everything they need inside them and not using initrd? |
| 00:40.58 | jharrisonwk | see you blokes in a bit |
| 00:41.11 | jaymes | hmm |
| 00:41.15 | jaymes | there's a good question |
| 00:41.18 | odium | what's the best microkernel avail? |
| 00:41.21 | jaymes | what's the point of initrd? |
| 00:41.26 | directhex | sleep++ time |
| 00:41.33 | jaymes | odium, best how? |
| 00:41.36 | dondelelcaro | MerlinCorey: the reason for using initrd is when you want one kernel to work on a whole slew of boxes. |
| 00:41.41 | jharrisonwk | jaymes: to load modules for teh kernel at boot time |
| 00:41.41 | MerlinCorey | as I understand it, just to ready boot for kernels that don't have what they need for initrd... |
| 00:41.45 | odium | uh. |
| 00:41.45 | dondelelcaro | MerlinCorey: if your'e not doing that, then there's no reason to have it. |
| 00:41.48 | MerlinCorey | *for booting |
| 00:41.57 | MerlinCorey | ach so... |
| 00:42.01 | MerlinCorey | so I'm all good then... |
| 00:42.02 | MerlinCorey | thankee... |
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| 00:42.09 | jaymes | so...stuff like e2fs? |
| 00:42.20 | jaymes | that *I* would put in the kernel anyway? |
| 00:42.37 | dondelelcaro | jaymes: no, more like things for hardware devices that not every box has. |
| 00:42.37 | sussudio | !fix odium |
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| 00:42.49 | odium | noooO! |
| 00:43.18 | scarynetworkguy | !bofhsmite odium |
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| 00:43.18 | jaymes | dondelelcaro, is there a reason to do that before / is mounted? |
| 00:43.18 | peterS | jaymes: the usual things people forget to put in kernels are (a) root filesystem driver (like ext2fs), (b) appropriate IDE chipset driver (Intel PIIXn, for example), (c) IDE Disk support and related stuff |
| 00:43.18 | odium | thats better. |
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| 00:43.35 | jaymes | oh, odium, I only know of two really |
| 00:43.39 | dondelelcaro | jaymes: if you need those drivers to mount /, yes. |
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| 00:43.54 | jaymes | odium, CMU (?) Mach & Hurd |
| 00:43.56 | smurfd | mkay, thanks.. btw while im here asking, i may aswell ask : Is there a way to create a .deb that when installed, adds like a line to a config file? and If, how's that done? (sorry, havent investigated to much, just point me in a direction..) |
| 00:44.06 | MerlinCorey | am I getting anything other than a smaller kernel removing things I don't need..? |
| 00:44.17 | abrotman | !tell smurfd about nm |
| 00:44.32 | dondelelcaro | MerlinCorey: not really, since the modules won't affect you unless you load them... |
| 00:44.32 | abrotman | MerlinCorey: honestly .. on |
| 00:44.33 | abrotman | no |
| 00:44.35 | jaymes | dondelelcaro, but...wouldn't you want those drivers all the time? |
| 00:44.50 | smurfd | thanks!! |
| 00:44.56 | dondelelcaro | jaymes: not if I have a few hundred boxen with slightly different hardware devices, no. |
| 00:44.57 | MerlinCorey | so then if there's stuff I'm not sure about, but probably don't need, it's cool to leave it, then..? |
| 00:45.03 | abrotman | MerlinCorey: you can ask gentoo .. they'll tell you that you get .54736666% improvement |
| 00:45.08 | abrotman | but i dont' believe them :) |
| 00:45.20 | dondelelcaro | MerlinCorey: you can always build those things as modules, and only load them when you want to |
| 00:45.29 | Peppito_ | I am unsure of how I could get sound to work on gdm. I do have asus nf2 a7n8x Deluxe |
| 00:45.44 | jaymes | dondelelcaro, so very useful in a net boot situation |
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| 00:45.53 | cafuego | Peppito_: Normally one does it by loading the driver for the sound card. |
| 00:46.04 | dondelelcaro | jaymes: yes, amoungst things... although, in a netboot, you'll do things slightly differently |
| 00:46.13 | Peppito_ | the sound card is nforce 2, built in |
| 00:46.18 | jaymes | dondelelcaro, sure; I think I'm getting it tho |
| 00:46.20 | MerlinCorey | abrotman: They've gotta get something for the days to weeks they spend compiling :) |
| 00:46.23 | cafuego | Peppito_: Yours will probably either have an nvidia nforce sound chip or a via sound card |
| 00:46.33 | Peppito_ | nvidia nforce sound chip |
| 00:46.37 | scarynetworkguy | MerlinCorey: http://slackware.at/data/slackware-10.0/testing/packages/linux-2.6.7/README.initrd |
| 00:46.41 | cafuego | Peppito_: Well, that's too bad. |
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| 00:46.46 | Peppito_ | I'd have to go to www.nvidia.com? |
| 00:46.50 | dondelelcaro | jaymes: it's most usefull when you're a administrator of multiple racks of boxen, and need to roll out a security fix to a kernel pronto. You compile once, install on the boxes, and you're done. |
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| 00:46.54 | abrotman | MerlinCorey: no .. they don;t |
| 00:46.58 | MerlinCorey | ah lekker, thanks, scarynetworkguy |
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| 00:47.10 | scarynetworkguy | MerlinCorey: no worries |
| 00:47.20 | Peppito_ | cafuego: why is it "too bad" |
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| 00:47.26 | jaymes | dondelelcaro, mmmm |
| 00:47.26 | MerlinCorey | abrotman: no, I mean, in their minds, they can't see they *aren't* getting anything for all that compile time :p |
| 00:47.33 | abrotman | MerlinCorey: oh |
| 00:47.49 | jaymes | are the new (2.6) kernel modules usuable for any kernel 2.6+? |
| 00:48.08 | dondelelcaro | jaymes: no. the modules and the kernel have to match |
| 00:48.28 | jaymes | huh |
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| 00:49.09 | jaymes | I would have thought since they were doing so much monkeying around, they would have changed that too |
| 00:49.11 | jaymes | so you only ever have to write one driver |
| 00:49.19 | nvz | jaymes: nope |
| 00:49.29 | jaymes | (Thinking for nVidia) |
| 00:49.32 | dondelelcaro | jaymes: that's almost impossible to do. and if you're writing drivers, and get them in the upstream, you only write them once. |
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| 00:49.57 | abrotman | i dance on your shite! |
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| 00:50.09 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: be sure to wash your shoes carefully then... |
| 00:50.12 | abrotman | heh |
| 00:50.23 | jaymes | I agree with you dondelelcaro, but that stuff isn't going away tomorrow |
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| 00:50.47 | dondelelcaro | jaymes: that may be, but there's no reason for the kernel developers to go out of there way to deal with it. |
| 00:50.58 | dondelelcaro | s/there/their/ |
| 00:51.04 | jaymes | sweet! my hard drive didn't crash before it finished mv'ing |
| 00:51.31 | abrotman | !dance |
| 00:53.12 | nvz | yahoohoo ;) |
| 00:53.14 | abrotman | !lart comcast dns |
| 00:53.17 | jaymes | crud |
| 00:53.23 | jaymes | I think it's going now |
| 00:53.33 | jaymes | ack |
| 00:53.37 | abrotman | syn |
| 00:53.44 | nvz | fin |
| 00:53.47 | jaymes | how do you move all . files without moving . & .. ? |
| 00:54.00 | jaymes | sheesh |
| 00:54.00 | jaymes | :) |
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| 00:54.12 | jaymes | CLANK |
| 00:54.16 | jaymes | Crackle |
| 00:54.21 | jaymes | CLANK |
| 00:54.26 | Aan | hi, anyone here a palm tungsten t3 user? |
| 00:54.28 | abrotman | if it goes .. PING PONG .. you're done |
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| 00:54.33 | abrotman | !anyone |
| 00:54.33 | dpkg | ***anyone: No such nick/channel - and yes, there probably is someone, somewhere, who knows or runs it; that doesn't mean *I* do. |
| 00:54.33 | Aan | or any pda user here (except zaurus)? |
| 00:54.44 | Aan | dpkg.. heh.. |
| 00:54.45 | garrett_ | is there a way to get my system back to just what was there with the base install? |
| 00:54.59 | garrett_ | (i.e. uninstall everything that's been installed after the base-install)? |
| 00:55.00 | abrotman | garrett_: start removing stuff |
| 00:55.05 | nvz | Aan: if you have a question related to debian please ask, this is not the place for usage polls |
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| 00:55.10 | garrett_ | abrotman: no one fell swoop? |
| 00:55.13 | bohan | can we use fakeroot to convert .deb packages to alien with, err, well, with alien? |
| 00:55.19 | abrotman | garrett_: not that i'm aware |
| 00:55.20 | bohan | or does this require real root? |
| 00:55.26 | jaymes | garrett_, use System Restore |
| 00:55.31 | abrotman | heh |
| 00:55.31 | Nyle | hi |
| 00:55.32 | bob2 | bohan: almost certainly, try it |
| 00:55.35 | garrett_ | jaymes: haha |
| 00:55.38 | abrotman | he's funny .. we should keep him |
| 00:55.38 | jaymes | :) |
| 00:55.38 | Aan | k.. my question: is there a good howto on using Palm Tungsten T3 and Debian sarge? |
| 00:55.45 | scarynetworkguy | garrett_: using debfoster to rip shit out will get you close |
| 00:55.51 | Peppito_ | Question: I tried downloading NFORCE-Linux-x86-1.0-0283-pkg1.run from nvidia.com so I can get my onboard soundstorm working and when i ran this command: sh NFORCE-Linux-x86-1.0-0283-pkg1.run it told me No precompiled kernel interface was found to match your kernel; this means |
| 00:55.52 | abrotman | Aan: debian is linux .. |
| 00:55.55 | Peppito_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:55.58 | abrotman | Aan: is there a linux/T3 tutorial? |
| 00:56.03 | bohan | bob2, ok :-) |
| 00:56.07 | Aan | yes.. |
| 00:56.16 | Aan | googling right now.. but without success. |
| 00:56.17 | abrotman | so use it |
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| 00:56.19 | scarynetworkguy | Peppito_: #nvidia |
| 00:56.19 | jaymes | ouch, this thing is giving me the willies |
| 00:56.22 | abrotman | so there isn't? |
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| 00:56.35 | abrotman | jaymes: keep your finger out of it |
| 00:56.46 | scarynetworkguy | Peppito_: also if you google on it you don't need thier binary shit for sound |
| 00:56.47 | Aan | Bluetooth and T3 are my last puzzles to linux switch.. |
| 00:56.48 | Nyle | i have installe xmms, and updated-menus and everything, it doesn't show up in kde and also if I trype in xmms as run command, it processes for a second then nothing, no errors, just nothing |
| 00:56.51 | jaymes | oh |
| 00:56.54 | jaymes | that's much better |
| 00:57.00 | jaymes | thanks abrotman :) |
| 00:57.01 | abrotman | Aan: there are bluetooth drivers in the kernel |
| 00:57.04 | abrotman | np |
| 00:57.10 | bob2 | Nyle: a) #debian-kde, b) does it run from a terminal? |
| 00:57.15 | nvz | Aan: maybe you should look around at the various pda related packages in debian and try to do something. then you have a problem someone can help with |
| 00:57.18 | abrotman | Aan: i don't know wat you mean about .. T3 .. or what you want to do with it |
| 00:57.19 | abrotman | !T3 |
| 00:57.19 | dpkg | i guess t3 is 28 T1 lines together make up a T3, which can carry 672 separate voice channels or up to 44.736 Mbps data throughput. Many large Internet providers brag of about having T3 backbones. |
| 00:57.21 | abrotman | drr |
| 00:57.24 | Peppito_ | scarynetworkguy: thank you I'll try googling something up |
| 00:57.25 | jaymes | humpf |
| 00:57.25 | abrotman | !palm |
| 00:57.25 | dpkg | rumour has it, palm is a personal digital assistant, formerly known as the palm pilot, made by Palm Computing. other companies such as handspring and ibm have clones that use the same OS. you can use pilot-link, coldsync, or one of the X based syncronization programs to use the Palm (or clones) in linux |
| 00:57.36 | scarynetworkguy | Peppito_: you do that |
| 00:57.43 | jaymes | last time I tried linux/pda stuff I fubar'd my pda setup |
| 00:57.45 | green_earz | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:57.53 | scarynetworkguy | Peppito_: is it nforce or nforce2 ? |
| 00:57.57 | Nyle | I don't know what you mean bob2, it runs kdm at boot and then i login with the graphical login |
| 00:57.58 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: no .. Aan has a T3 pda |
| 00:58.08 | nvz | dondelelcaro: no the discussion is of Palm T3 |
| 00:58.15 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: yeah, was just commenting on the T3 factoid |
| 00:58.18 | abrotman | heh |
| 00:58.20 | bob2 | Nyle: kde is utterly irelevant. does it run from an xterm or not? |
| 00:58.24 | Aan | hmm.. |
| 00:58.25 | Aan | ok.. |
| 00:58.27 | Aan | will do so.. |
| 00:58.28 | abrotman | i've got an OC12 |
| 00:58.35 | Nyle | i don't know |
| 00:58.36 | nvz | everyone just assumes dondelelcaro isnt paying attention |
| 00:58.38 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: there are 4 of them here... |
| 00:58.40 | Guerin | !gui tools |
| 00:58.40 | dpkg | Don't use gui tools for diagnostics unless you have absolutely no choice. Console-based tools give much more useful and sane feedback, and often are more configurable. |
| 00:58.41 | Nyle | i don't know what that means |
| 00:58.41 | abrotman | heh |
| 00:58.55 | Nyle | i boot my computer and it boots into kde, however you immagine it works |
| 00:58.55 | bob2 | Nyle: do you know how to run konsole? |
| 00:59.00 | Nyle | indeed |
| 00:59.06 | bob2 | Nyle: so run xmms from one. |
| 00:59.10 | Peppito_ | scarynetworkguy: it is nf2 |
| 00:59.19 | Peppito_ | scarynetworkguy: it is nf2 - a7n8x Deluxe |
| 00:59.21 | bob2 | Nyle: and trying to be condescending to people helping you seems counterproductive |
| 00:59.24 | Nyle | ahhh |
| 00:59.33 | Nyle | my apologies, didn't mean to |
| 00:59.38 | Nyle | libmikmod.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 00:59.38 | Nyle | Inconsistency detected by ld.so: ../sysdeps/generic/dl-tls.c: 72: _dl_next_tls_modid: Assertion `result <= _rtld_local._dl_tls_max_dtv_idx' failed! |
| 00:59.41 | Nyle | thats what I got |
| 00:59.49 | bob2 | are you using nvidia drivers? |
| 00:59.52 | scarynetworkguy | Peppito_: in that case I could be wrong. I thought you said nforce |
| 00:59.53 | Nyle | yes |
| 01:00.04 | abrotman | nvz: looking for a date? |
| 01:00.08 | Weeble | as opposed to yahooing badgers? |
| 01:00.13 | nvz | abrotman: no |
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| 01:00.24 | nvz | abrotman: why I dont think I am your type anyhow |
| 01:00.33 | abrotman | nvz: yahooligans |
| 01:00.43 | Nyle | I finally got my X to work at the proper resolution and i got fakeroot and all that stuff and compiled the nvidia modules in the kernel or whatever, just followed the guides, don't relaly understand much, which is kinda useless |
| 01:00.44 | Nyle | :( |
| 01:00.51 | nvz | abrotman: yeah its fun to badger morons |
| 01:00.55 | abrotman | heh |
| 01:01.03 | Wyzard | Nyle: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=248008 |
| 01:01.12 | Wyzard | Nyle: Easiest fix is to just install the libmikmod2 package |
| 01:01.16 | nvz | abrotman: I was in there earlier explainging to them why they are useless |
| 01:01.18 | Nyle | ahhh |
| 01:01.22 | Nyle | mikmod i remember that one |
| 01:01.24 | Nyle | brb |
| 01:01.24 | nvz | abrotman: they all kindly proved my point |
| 01:01.28 | abrotman | nvz: where is this? |
| 01:01.31 | abrotman | #debian? |
| 01:01.32 | nvz | abrotman: yahoo chat |
| 01:01.35 | abrotman | oh |
| 01:02.04 | nvz | abrotman: the whole community wasts time and money forwarding packets around the web to people sitting in these chat rooms, and they all are ignoring each other |
| 01:02.04 | bob2 | ah, that's the bug I was looking for |
| 01:02.10 | Nyle | thank Wyzard |
| 01:02.16 | Nyle | and bob2 |
| 01:02.53 | nvz | abrotman: not only that, they all have neat little spambot messages telling people they are being thrown in the iggy-bin, which I tried to make them realize that spamming to stop spam is just stupid |
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| 01:02.59 | Nyle | ahh |
| 01:03.03 | nvz | abrotman: they all have serious social disorders |
| 01:03.05 | Wyzard | bob2: I have a smart bookmark for the BTS in my Galeon bookmark bar :-) |
| 01:03.12 | Nyle | sweet it works, ya'll are awesome god bless |
| 01:03.26 | bob2 | Wyzard: hah, I was just skimming the xmms buglist |
| 01:03.46 | abrotman | nvz: nice .. how old are you? :) |
| 01:03.51 | nvz | abrotman: 21 |
| 01:04.00 | tictac | deadcat: any luck? |
| 01:04.04 | MerlinCorey | nvz: I join yahoo chat for a good laugh |
| 01:04.10 | nvz | MerlinCorey: yeah me too |
| 01:04.12 | Nyle | I was using the JuK thing that comes with kde, its got the features I need, like the library and search function, but no equalizer, |
| 01:04.13 | MerlinCorey | nvz: especially the "hacker lounge"... |
| 01:04.17 | MerlinCorey | nvz: it's teh funny |
| 01:04.18 | abrotman | nvz: just chekcing |
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| 01:04.23 | nvz | MerlinCorey: heh, I dont go to the computer rooms anymore |
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| 01:04.31 | nvz | MerlinCorey: I was in the Yahoo Help today |
| 01:04.31 | sussudio | if you join yahoo chat, the laugh's on you. |
| 01:05.11 | PBMonster189 | i've never been here before, so i dont know what kind of response im going to get, but i need help with installing debian... |
| 01:05.12 | Nyle | ok, also if xmms is installed, and I type update-menus and it works for a few seconds and no errors, back to shell, and I look at my multimedia menu and xmms is not there |
| 01:05.14 | PBMonster189 | any takers? |
| 01:05.32 | Nyle | it only shows up under the debian menu WAY up top of the kmenu |
| 01:05.40 | useruser | PBMonster189: describe your problem and i expect people will bite |
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| 01:05.44 | scarynetworkguy | !tell PBMonster189 about ask |
| 01:05.45 | nvz | I cant watch computer chats on yahoo cause I cant keep up, there are too many misconcpetions floating around for me to flame and correct them all |
| 01:05.47 | MerlinCorey | eeewwww KDE |
| 01:05.54 | MerlinCorey | </wmwar> |
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| 01:06.11 | nvz | I float around in there and on forums though when I am bored and all else fails |
| 01:06.15 | MerlinCorey | nvz: ok, now you're heading to 12 again... |
| 01:06.28 | MerlinCorey | nvz: I just go in, sit, and watch... no need to make any comments |
| 01:06.29 | Aan | but with yahoo chat, you get voice and cam... |
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| 01:06.38 | Aan | you can't get that with IRC. |
| 01:06.43 | PBMonster189 | alright, first off i just threw together a computer with bunch of old parts i have, first one ive tried, and it seems to be working. its less then a 300mhz pentium 1, can i even put debian on it? |
| 01:06.46 | MerlinCorey | Aan: are you kidding..? |
| 01:06.53 | scarynetworkguy | MerlinCorey: was he ever *not* at 12? |
| 01:06.54 | risky | what happened with the root has landed msg? |
| 01:06.54 | grigora | can anyone see a problem with the following command: sed 's/\([a-zA-Z0-9]+\) /\1\=\1/g' big_dir_list? thanks |
| 01:06.56 | nvz | MerlinCorey: I cant watch people talk about technology and have no clue what they are talking about, and not say anything |
| 01:06.57 | Guerin | Aan: and lord, may it stay that way. |
| 01:07.17 | Guerin | risky: sometimes apt misses a trick |
| 01:07.21 | nvz | MerlinCorey: it doesnt last long anyhow, once you show intelligence on there you get ignored |
| 01:07.24 | Aan | voice would be nice though.. |
| 01:07.32 | MerlinCorey | Aan: voice over a whole channel, especially one this size, would be HORRIBLE |
| 01:07.33 | scarynetworkguy | PBMonster189: yes, Now make sure you know what devices you have for everything. That is your first step to success |
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| 01:07.46 | PBMonster189 | explain? im computer illiterate |
| 01:07.49 | MerlinCorey | Aan: and there are plenty of plugins for various IRC clients that allow private voice chats... |
| 01:07.52 | PBMonster189 | im lucky the thing turned on |
| 01:07.55 | Guerin | Aan: anyway, you don't need stupid braindead proprietary chat protocols for voice and cam - h323 does it. |
| 01:07.57 | nvz | yahooligans cant be corrected they already know it all |
| 01:08.17 | useruser | PBMonster189: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-hardware-req.en.html |
| 01:08.24 | jaymes | Guerin, I was surprised how good gnomemeeting really is |
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| 01:08.39 | abrotman | PBMonster189: now .. we know you're lying |
| 01:08.40 | jaymes | Guerin, I had it talking to a brand-new tandberg box yesterday |
| 01:08.46 | scarynetworkguy | PBMonster189: go to your local library and find a hardware book or two. Read them til you kno what I'm talking about |
| 01:08.47 | abrotman | PBMonster189: there is no 300Mhz Pentium I |
| 01:08.50 | Peppito_ | Wha ERROR: Unable to find the kernel source tree for the currently running |
| 01:08.50 | Peppito_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:08.59 | Guerin | jaymes: yeah, I WAS ... damn thing doesn't want to work with my dear old mum's box now... |
| 01:09.23 | jaymes | Guerin, really? firewall problems? |
| 01:09.26 | Aan | guerin, how old is your mom's box? |
| 01:09.27 | Guerin | jaymes: the voice test works fine, the nat transalation wors fine, but when the call connects, all sound (in and out) on her box just dies |
| 01:09.36 | PBMonster189 | abrotman: why am i lying... im just stupid |
| 01:09.40 | macy | a p2 |
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| 01:09.42 | jaymes | Guerin, oh, that's strange |
| 01:09.43 | MerlinCorey | Peppito: apt-get kernel-sources-yourkernelversion ? |
| 01:09.43 | Guerin | Aan: celery400 laptop |
| 01:09.45 | PBMonster189 | i said less then 300mhz |
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| 01:09.49 | MerlinCorey | *apt-get install |
| 01:09.50 | tictac | deadcat: did you try using genromfs for initrd instead of cramfs? |
| 01:09.51 | Aan | puh.. more than plenty.. |
| 01:09.57 | user01 | is there some standard way to label audio file ogg/mp3? like artist - song.ext |
| 01:09.58 | Peppito_ | Guerin: I have successlly configured gdm |
| 01:10.04 | macy | 266 |
| 01:10.07 | Guerin | jaymes: yeah. It's especially bad since I can't fix0r it from here by ssh... |
| 01:10.16 | bob2 | user01: use metadata tags |
| 01:10.20 | bob2 | user01: the filename doesn't matter |
| 01:10.20 | user01 | didn't know if there were a set of standards to select from |
| 01:10.21 | Aan | if celery 300 can play divx with mplayer.. |
| 01:10.25 | jaymes | Guerin, I'd offer to help, but my work connection is (poorly) nat'd & i'm on a modem now |
| 01:10.31 | user01 | like a dewey decimal thing |
| 01:10.33 | MerlinCorey | Peppito: you're using gdm with kde? |
| 01:10.45 | Peppito_ | MerlinCorey: How do I check which kernel I have, I know it's 2.6 but not sure if its 2.6.0.1.8 or something of that sort |
| 01:10.53 | Guerin | jaymes: yeah, I'm gonna get her to take it around to a mate's place and get him to fuck with it |
| 01:10.53 | MerlinCorey | Peppito: uname -a |
| 01:10.58 | user01 | bob2: do you know of a debian package for editing metadata? |
| 01:10.59 | abrotman | PBMonster189: yes .. it will install .. as long as it has 24MB of ram |
| 01:11.03 | Peppito_ | MerlinCorey: what is kde |
| 01:11.04 | abrotman | or 16 for woody |
| 01:11.09 | Guerin | getting it working will save us ~1000 per year in phone callls |
| 01:11.22 | MerlinCorey | Peppito: a window manager |
| 01:11.27 | jaymes | Guerin, bonzer :) |
| 01:11.34 | Guerin | MerlinCorey: *bzzzzt* |
| 01:11.34 | bob2 | user01: cantus or something |
| 01:11.41 | user01 | bob2: thanks |
| 01:11.43 | MerlinCorey | oh wait... |
| 01:11.45 | Guerin | kde is a DE, that's why there's a DE in it |
| 01:11.45 | Gumby | is there a way in debian to use a wildcard with dpkg or apt-get remove? I want to remove/purge all xfce4 packages. will dpkg -r xfce4* remove them all? |
| 01:11.48 | abrotman | PBMonster189: make sense? |
| 01:11.55 | MerlinCorey | it's... a Desktop environment, yes... |
| 01:11.57 | bob2 | Gumby: quote it correctly |
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| 01:12.04 | bob2 | Gumby: dpkg -r "xfces4*" |
| 01:12.15 | Gumby | bob2: excellent thx |
| 01:12.19 | jaymes | ooooo, I didn't know that |
| 01:12.21 | macy | is any 1 using debian snapshot |
| 01:12.25 | Guerin | Gumby: no, because some of th packages are called fxce4-whatever, and others are called xfwhatever-4 |
| 01:12.28 | Gumby | bob2: how about "*xfce4* ? |
| 01:12.33 | abrotman | macy: do that again .. i'll kill you |
| 01:12.36 | Guerin | macy: wtf is debian snapshot? |
| 01:12.41 | PBMonster189 | abrotman: it has a 128 and a 64.... so now im guessing i need to figure out which architecture i have? |
| 01:12.44 | abrotman | anyone .. say it again .. anyone |
| 01:12.44 | bob2 | Gumby: should work... |
| 01:12.46 | Peppito_ | Merlincorey: well i did apt-get install gnome gdm and that's what I am using now |
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| 01:12.53 | Gumby | Guerin: not the packages I have installed |
| 01:12.53 | MerlinCorey | Peppito: good deal... |
| 01:12.53 | Peppito_ | Merlincorey: apt-get-kernel-sources- |
| 01:12.53 | abrotman | PBMonster189: 386 will work fine |
| 01:12.54 | macy | my |
| 01:12.58 | macy | why |
| 01:13.06 | Guerin | Gumby: no xftaskbar4, then? |
| 01:13.08 | abrotman | !snapshot |
| 01:13.08 | dpkg | somebody said debian snapshot was http://snapshot.debian.net/ |
| 01:13.16 | macy | yes |
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| 01:13.22 | abrotman | PBMonster189: got broadband |
| 01:13.23 | MerlinCorey | Peppito: well, first apt-cache search kernel-source* | grep yourkernelversion |
| 01:13.25 | strikinado | Hi, I've problem installing and running alsa-driver/tools/lib - when I type alsasound start.. or alsamixer, amixer, alsactl Appears: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for |
| 01:13.26 | PBMonster189 | abrotman: yes |
| 01:13.32 | MerlinCorey | Peppito: then you'll know if you can ge tit |
| 01:13.35 | abrotman | PBMonster189: any funny hardware? |
| 01:13.35 | Peppito_ | Merlincorey: 2.1.8-1-386 this is what I type? |
| 01:13.43 | abrotman | woohoo ..2.1.8 |
| 01:13.48 | sussudio | wtf? |
| 01:14.06 | MerlinCorey | Peppito: what version of debian are you using..? Slink..? |
| 01:14.06 | abrotman | sox losing .. bad |
| 01:14.07 | MerlinCorey | :p |
| 01:14.08 | Peppito_ | Merlincorey: I am still getting used to copy and pasting here when I paste it won't paste it onto the text edit box, it just sends it out |
| 01:14.12 | abrotman | hamm |
| 01:14.22 | abrotman | oh wait .. slink did have 2.0.x huh |
| 01:14.27 | abrotman | wait .. so did potato |
| 01:14.31 | PBMonster189 | abrotman: funny hardware? i dont think so |
| 01:14.37 | abrotman | PBMonster189: video card is? |
| 01:14.44 | Gumby | Guerin: I installed some plugins and the panel doesnt work. taskbard works |
| 01:14.56 | Guerin | Gumby: that's weird |
| 01:15.26 | PBMonster189 | abrotman: i found a 3d Blaster Banshee in the attic, but i think the motherboard has onboard graphics or something |
| 01:15.30 | abrotman | oh dear |
| 01:15.33 | abrotman | ok .. anyways |
| 01:15.38 | abrotman | PBMonster189: got a burner handy? |
| 01:15.43 | Gumby | Guerin: I am not using the .deb's from sarage |
| 01:15.51 | Peppito_ | Merlincorey: i am using Sarge |
| 01:15.54 | Guerin | Gumby: there'll be your problem then |
| 01:15.55 | PBMonster189 | abrotman: im not sure that the the blaster is trashed tho, i do, maybe not cd-rs |
| 01:16.00 | Gumby | Guerin: trying to install the 4.2beta1 source packages |
| 01:16.05 | Gumby | Guerin: yes, I know. |
| 01:16.07 | abrotman | PBMonster189: just somehting to burn to will work |
| 01:16.09 | jharrison | OI! |
| 01:16.10 | MerlinCorey | Peppito: you're using Sarge with kernel 2.1 ..? |
| 01:16.11 | Guerin | hehe |
| 01:16.17 | abrotman | jharrison: piggy? |
| 01:16.17 | Peppito_ | I have Kernel 2.6 |
| 01:16.20 | Guerin | ffs, he MEANS 2.6 |
| 01:16.22 | PBMonster189 | abrotman: i have a version of bonzai linux on cd-r... could i use that? |
| 01:16.23 | MerlinCorey | aaaah |
| 01:16.28 | Peppito_ | Kernel 2.6.8-1-386 |
| 01:16.31 | jharrison | abrotman: where? |
| 01:16.31 | abrotman | PBMonster189: not for debian |
| 01:16.33 | Guerin | 2.1 was a development kernel anyway |
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| 01:16.38 | abrotman | OI... NK |
| 01:16.42 | jharrison | oh |
| 01:16.50 | jharrison | no |
| 01:17.00 | metrix | NO don't forking |
| 01:17.02 | jharrison | OI = bahamian for hello |
| 01:17.03 | abrotman | PBMonster189: no blank CDs? |
| 01:17.07 | MerlinCorey | yeah, well, Peppito, apt-get install kernel-source-2.6.8 |
| 01:17.07 | metrix | er no forking |
| 01:17.13 | PBMonster189 | abrotman: 1 second |
| 01:17.13 | abrotman | cdr or cdrw ? |
| 01:17.24 | jharrison | abrotman: yes please |
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| 01:17.34 | abrotman | !feed jharrison |
| 01:17.37 | jharrison | abrotman: oh some of each is good |
| 01:17.38 | abrotman | ok |
| 01:17.58 | metrix | does anyone know of a partitioner on a floppy |
| 01:18.02 | macy | what the hell is debian snapshot any way |
| 01:18.15 | abrotman | !snapshot |
| 01:18.16 | dpkg | methinks debian snapshot is http://snapshot.debian.net/ |
| 01:18.16 | MerlinCorey | Peppito: and then extract it (it'll be in /usr/src as a .bz2, I think |
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| 01:18.39 | Peppito_ | MerlinCorey: E: Couldn't find package kernal-source-2.6.8 |
| 01:18.46 | sussudio | !bugger Peppito_ |
| 01:18.47 | abrotman | !tell PBMonster189 about d-i |
| 01:18.53 | PBMonster189 | abrotman: found 1 |
| 01:18.54 | tictac | Peppito_: spell kernel correctly.. |
| 01:18.57 | MerlinCorey | Peppito: kernel with an e |
| 01:18.58 | macy | but is it like testing |
| 01:18.59 | PBMonster189 | abrotman: maybe 2... |
| 01:19.01 | abrotman | PBMonster189: get that iso .. burn it |
| 01:19.02 | Peppito_ | oh man!!! |
| 01:19.02 | MerlinCorey | Peppito: with two e's, even |
| 01:19.08 | abrotman | PBMonster189: you only need 1 .. it's 110MB |
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| 01:19.20 | abrotman | how big are those 3" CDs? |
| 01:19.28 | Peppito_ | I get dumber by the second |
| 01:19.40 | abrotman | Peppito: MerlinCorey has that problem |
| 01:19.51 | PBMonster189 | abrotman: the 386, correct? |
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| 01:20.03 | abrotman | PBMonster189: it is an intel/amd cpu right? |
| 01:20.04 | macy | Is snapshot like testing |
| 01:20.08 | MerlinCorey | par earlier conversion, should I be applying those patches, or is that just like the cramfs patch for using initrd..? |
| 01:20.10 | jaymes | oh brother |
| 01:20.18 | abrotman | macy: no .. |
| 01:20.22 | MerlinCorey | *conversation |
| 01:20.23 | abrotman | !tell macy about faq |
| 01:20.28 | Peppito_ | anyone have optimum online? |
| 01:20.33 | abrotman | i have opium |
| 01:20.35 | abrotman | oh |
| 01:20.38 | abrotman | nm |
| 01:20.38 | strikinado | Hi, I've problem installing and running alsa-driver/tools/lib - when I type alsasound start.. or alsamixer, amixer, alsactl Appears: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for |
| 01:20.43 | PBMonster189 | abrotman: yes |
| 01:20.44 | strikinado | help ? |
| 01:20.50 | jaymes | I was wondering why perl -e '<>; chomp; print "$_\n";' only printed one line |
| 01:20.50 | Peppito_ | I saw an ad on the tv saying "it is now up to 40% faster than what it used to be" |
| 01:20.52 | abrotman | PBMonster189: then yes .. that ISO |
| 01:20.58 | jaymes | no loop maybe? |
| 01:21.02 | abrotman | PBMonster189: and please please .. burn it as an ISO .. not a file |
| 01:21.08 | Peppito_ | But the thing is I still download at 600kb/s regardless of the website |
| 01:21.16 | gravity | jaymes: Yes. <> is just "Get one line of input" |
| 01:21.17 | PBMonster189 | abrotman: r1 r2 r3... |
| 01:21.22 | abrotman | PBMonster189: huh? |
| 01:21.28 | tcsetattr | jaymes, your first statement <>; reads the input and doesn't put it anywhere. |
| 01:21.38 | jaymes | tcsetattr, sure it does $_ |
| 01:21.45 | PBMonster189 | abrotman: no clue there are different folders within 386, different versions maybe? |
| 01:21.55 | abrotman | PBMonster189: http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sid_d-i/i386/pre-rc2/sarge-i386-netinst.iso |
| 01:21.57 | abrotman | right there |
| 01:21.58 | abrotman | that's it |
| 01:21.59 | Peppito_ | Merlincorey: I did that, and it installed thank you. But what do i Do now |
| 01:21.59 | jaymes | tcsetattr, it's a very terse script |
| 01:22.00 | karsten | Any ideas why an active X session would not accept a USB mouse that had previously been working fine? |
| 01:22.03 | Weeble | don't you need -pe or something ? |
| 01:22.09 | tcsetattr | no it doesn't. your $_ is empty. It doesn't have any of the input. |
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| 01:22.16 | Weeble | you need a loop round it somewhere |
| 01:22.18 | dondelelcaro | karsten: sometimes unplugging and plugging the mouse back in helps |
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| 01:22.34 | jaymes | yeah; I missed a loop |
| 01:22.40 | PBMonster189 | abrotman: thanks, whats this about burning it as an iso? do i need a special program for that? |
| 01:22.43 | MerlinCorey | Peppito: I don't know, weren't you the one pasting some error about something couldn't find the current kernel sources..? :) now all you need to do is extract the sources, and whatever was giving that error, shouldn't anymore... |
| 01:22.47 | jaymes | tcsetattr, why not? |
| 01:22.51 | abrotman | PBMonster189: what software do you have for burning |
| 01:22.52 | abrotman | ? |
| 01:22.59 | karsten | I've tried loading/unloading USB modules, starting/stopping hotplug (sysvinit), plugging/unplugging mouse, switching in and out of X, starting a second X session. |
| 01:23.01 | Weeble | -p makes it have an implicit loop round it, look at man perlrun |
| 01:23.04 | PBMonster189 | abrotman: easy cd creator 5, but its screwy |
| 01:23.07 | MerlinCorey | Peppito: I think the switch in tar is -j for bz2's... |
| 01:23.11 | PBMonster189 | abrotman: doesnt work more often than not |
| 01:23.12 | tcsetattr | jaymes, because you didn't put it there! If you want to read a line of input and put it in $_, you have to say so. $_=<>; |
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| 01:23.19 | abrotman | PBMonster189: oh goodie |
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| 01:23.30 | abrotman | PBMonster189: it should have an option to burn an ISO or image |
| 01:23.32 | jaymes | Weeble, ohhhh, that's nifty; but I just used a while() |
| 01:23.41 | jaymes | tcsetattr, erm, well, it works anyway |
| 01:23.44 | Peppito_ | Merlincorey What do I have to switch to tar? |
| 01:24.07 | PBMonster189 | abrotman: any other program i can dl, its being uncooperative |
| 01:24.08 | tcsetattr | jaymes, it doesn't work. echo hello | perl -e '<>; chomp; print "$_\n";' does not print hello. |
| 01:24.18 | PBMonster189 | abrotman: by which i mean it wont start |
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| 01:24.40 | tcsetattr | I copied your command without modifying it, and fed it a "hello". |
| 01:24.42 | user01 | what should i do if im running applications and the windows popo up too big for the screen? |
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| 01:25.06 | user01 | not on all of them though... |
| 01:25.31 | abrotman | PBMonster189: what wont? |
| 01:25.31 | jaymes | tcsetattr, strange |
| 01:25.32 | Peppito_ | Merlincorey: Do I have to do something else to that kernel I just downloaded? |
| 01:25.52 | PBMonster189 | abrotman: roxio easy cd creator |
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| 01:25.59 | abrotman | PBMonster189: it doesn't start? |
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| 01:26.08 | jaymes | tcsetattr, this is what I'm actually running: find . | perl -e 'while(<>) { chomp; print "$_\n"; }' |
| 01:26.14 | MerlinCorey | Peppito: aside from extract it, I don't think so... |
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| 01:26.24 | jaymes | tcsetattr, ohhh, right, the while loop does it for me |
| 01:26.28 | user01 | like i just ran cantus and the program is too big for the screen so i can't hit the "x" button |
| 01:26.30 | PBMonster189 | abrotman: i think its partialy uninstalled, and i dont have a cd for it... |
| 01:26.31 | MerlinCorey | Peppito: I think to extract you use tar -xfj |
| 01:26.40 | MerlinCorey | Peppito: though man tar, for assurance |
| 01:26.46 | tcsetattr | jaymes, that's completely different. Inside a while(), the <> operator implicitly assigns to $_. that is not the code you originally showed, which had no while(). |
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| 01:26.49 | abrotman | PBMonster189: you could get demo of nero i suppose |
| 01:26.54 | PBMonster189 | sounds good |
| 01:27.01 | Peppito_ | tar -xfj this is all i type in root? |
| 01:27.01 | jaymes | tcsetattr, yeah, I was being stupid |
| 01:27.07 | tcsetattr | user01, just learn to move the window. |
| 01:27.08 | abrotman | or that one directhex always says about |
| 01:27.24 | jaymes | tcsetattr, the computer didn't do what I meant it to do, only what I told it to :) |
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| 01:27.35 | abrotman | http://www.download.com/3120-20_4-0.html?qt=burn+ISO&tg=dl-2001&search.x=0&search.y=0 |
| 01:27.36 | MerlinCorey | Peppito: well, ideally, you'll have added yourself to the src group and not be doing this in root, but no one is going to hate you for it :) |
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| 01:27.38 | abrotman | PBMonster189: ^^ |
| 01:27.45 | user01 | tcsetattr: using telepathy? |
| 01:28.23 | abrotman | it's sunday!! |
| 01:28.37 | Peppito_ | tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now |
| 01:28.40 | tcsetattr | user01, using the mouse or the keyboard more likely |
| 01:29.08 | user01 | tcsetattr: oh well i was looking for another solution involving reconfig something so it actually fits on the screen |
| 01:29.36 | MerlinCorey | Peppito: you did pass it the file name, right? |
| 01:29.36 | Peppito_ | MerlinCorey: I typed in tar -xfj and it gave me that error |
| 01:29.39 | Peppito_ | no |
| 01:29.46 | MerlinCorey | Peppito_: well, there you go :P |
| 01:29.52 | PBMonster189 | abrotman: so should i try and connect the video card or just use the onboard for now, because im not sure that the video card is even intact |
| 01:29.55 | Peppito_ | MerlinCorey: where does the filename go |
| 01:30.15 | MerlinCorey | Peppito_: uh, at the end of the command....... |
| 01:31.05 | abrotman | PBMonster189: try the onboar |
| 01:31.06 | abrotman | d |
| 01:31.25 | PBMonster189 | abrotman: k, i got the debian dl, but waiting on nero |
| 01:31.33 | macy | why is it so hard to get debian testing with the 2.6 ken to use alsa sound it want ti use esound |
| 01:31.45 | macy | to |
| 01:31.53 | MerlinCorey | macy: I didn't think it was so hard... |
| 01:32.19 | abrotman | alsa sucks? |
| 01:32.19 | Peppito_ | MerlinCorey: I did tar -xfj kernel-source-2.6.8 |
| 01:32.21 | Peppito_ | and nothing |
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| 01:32.38 | MerlinCorey | Peppito_: pwd |
| 01:32.42 | macy | if it dosnt find the card i have no prob. |
| 01:33.08 | Peppito_ | MerlinCorey: I am afraid you might flip out any second now |
| 01:33.43 | Peppito_ | Merlincorey: I am not sure wether to ask where does pwd command go? or if pwd is just a way for you to express your anger |
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| 01:33.51 | MerlinCorey | Peppito_: well, I still have at least 10 minutes on this kernel compile, so at least not 'till then |
| 01:33.52 | abrotman | !pwd |
| 01:33.53 | dpkg | pwd is probably print current/working directory |
| 01:33.57 | jaymes | what's the next step after 'umount -f' ? |
| 01:34.09 | guestish | jaymes: in what exactly? |
| 01:34.21 | MerlinCorey | Peppito_: `pwd |
| 01:34.26 | jaymes | guestish, trying to unmount a drive |
| 01:34.34 | MerlinCorey | Peppito_: `pwd` prints the working directory |
| 01:34.40 | jaymes | guestish, it crashed |
| 01:34.44 | guestish | jaymes: well you cant unmount a drive in use |
| 01:34.54 | jaymes | guestish, but it isn't REALLY |
| 01:35.07 | guestish | jaymes: umount -f /dev/drive |
| 01:35.12 | macy | if alsa sucks how do you get sound to work with flash in mozilla |
| 01:35.18 | FUF | anyone here running experimental dist? :o |
| 01:35.19 | jaymes | hrm |
| 01:35.31 | abrotman | experimental is not a dist |
| 01:35.35 | Peppito_ | Merlin: I see, in which directory is the kernel located |
| 01:35.43 | jaymes | umount: /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part3: not found |
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| 01:35.48 | MerlinCorey | Peppito: it should be in /usr/src |
| 01:36.01 | FUF | abrotman: oh? then why's it in dists/ on the mirrors/ |
| 01:36.08 | MerlinCorey | hahaha, Ms Cartman smoking speed... |
| 01:36.30 | jaymes | guestish, umount: /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part3: not found |
| 01:36.30 | guestish | jaymes: scsi? |
| 01:36.33 | jaymes | erp |
| 01:36.41 | abrotman | FUF: it's not complete |
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| 01:36.51 | jaymes | guestish, yeah, it's a removable usb drive |
| 01:36.52 | abrotman | FUF: it's stuff to unstable to go in unstable |
| 01:36.57 | abrotman | too |
| 01:37.03 | FUF | abrotman: ah :) |
| 01:37.05 | jaymes | guestish, which probably doesn't help either |
| 01:37.05 | abrotman | FUF: or too new |
| 01:37.08 | guestish | jaymes: well if its not found then its not found |
| 01:37.16 | abrotman | or fulfills another criteria related to releases |
| 01:37.30 | Peppito_ | Merlin: ahh I see the filename now kernel-source-2.6.8.tar.bz2 rpm |
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| 01:38.01 | MerlinCorey | Peppito: yeppers, so extract it, and then whatever was complaining before shouldn't complain :) |
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| 01:38.09 | guestish | jaymes: let me guess, you removed the drive physically before unmounting it |
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| 01:38.26 | jaymes | guestish, no, it crash & I turned it off |
| 01:38.30 | jaymes | crashed |
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| 01:38.41 | guestish | jaymes: yeah, see you cant unmount something thats not there |
| 01:38.45 | jaymes | guestish, I'm data recovering |
| 01:38.50 | abrotman | not anymore :) |
| 01:38.57 | guestish | jaymes: ? |
| 01:39.00 | jaymes | maybe |
| 01:39.10 | arcanjoebc | alguém aqui fala português??? |
| 01:39.17 | jaymes | it crashes & starts back up after it cools down |
| 01:39.29 | Peppito_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:39.32 | guestish | jaymes: and you are trying to use forensics to recover data? |
| 01:39.37 | jaymes | strangest crash I've experienced, but I'm not complaining |
| 01:39.55 | Peppito_ | MErlin: that is he command I type but I get tar: j: cannot open: no such file or dir |
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| 01:39.56 | MerlinCorey | Peppito: the j has to come first, apparently |
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| 01:40.11 | abrotman | !portuguese arcanjoebc |
| 01:40.11 | jaymes | guestish, sort of; it used to be my main hd, I stuck it in an external usb enclosure to get stuff off of it |
| 01:40.15 | abrotman | !portuguese |
| 01:40.16 | dpkg | somebody said portuguese was the most beautiful idiom of the world, or #debian-br, or por favor use #debian-br para ajuda em portugues. |
| 01:40.18 | MerlinCorey | Peppito_: so tar -jxf kernel-source-2.6.8.tar.bz2 |
| 01:40.22 | Peppito_ | Merlin: sory I am so incompetent |
| 01:40.27 | guestish | jaymes: if the hard drive crashed how are you expecting to get anything off it? |
| 01:40.29 | Peppito_ | Merlin: it's working now |
| 01:40.41 | t-jack | What's the cmd to clear the install queue? I foolishly entered install kde to Sid... |
| 01:40.42 | jaymes | guestish, well, it seems to be only half-crashed |
| 01:40.47 | abrotman | it's magically working |
| 01:40.49 | guestish | jaymes: thats not quite possible isnt it? |
| 01:40.57 | Nyle | u know how in windows xp you have fast user switching capability, can you do that with linux, well I know you can but in kde/xwin can you make it so that when you click logout, it only does a switch user, and doesn't close your programs or anything? |
| 01:40.58 | arcanjoebc | I am brazilian, you speek portuguese? |
| 01:41.07 | jaymes | well, yeah, but it's happening |
| 01:41.16 | Nyle | pene de cabra! |
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| 01:41.21 | Peppito_ | arcan I can somehow speak some portuges maybe I can translate soem of it to english? |
| 01:41.21 | abrotman | !portuguese |
| 01:41.21 | dpkg | i heard portuguese is the most beautiful idiom of the world, or #debian-br, or por favor use #debian-br para ajuda em portugues. |
| 01:41.27 | jaymes | it runs for 15-20 min & then starts clanking again |
| 01:41.27 | abrotman | arcanjoebc: /j #debian-br |
| 01:41.35 | Peppito_ | wow this place has channel for everything |
| 01:41.42 | guestish | jaymes: sounds like its busted |
| 01:41.43 | Nyle | pretty much |
| 01:41.46 | jaymes | I shut it off, wait a couple hours & it works again |
| 01:41.48 | abrotman | Peppito: you been to #gullible yet? |
| 01:41.51 | guestish | jaymes: clanking is a bad sign |
| 01:41.52 | PBMonster189 | abrotman: i've got nero, so now i make a burn disc with only that one file on it? |
| 01:41.53 | Peppito_ | nope |
| 01:41.59 | abrotman | PBMonster189: no |
| 01:41.59 | Peppito_ | I know what gullible is though |
| 01:42.06 | abrotman | PBMonster189: you burn it as an ISO . a image |
| 01:42.06 | jaymes | guestish, it's ok, I got all my porn off first |
| 01:42.09 | abrotman | Peppito: just checking |
| 01:42.10 | guestish | lol |
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| 01:42.22 | guestish | jaymes: good to see the drive was put to good use |
| 01:42.25 | Peppito_ | Gullible means to talk someone into doing something for the prsons benefit or something like that |
| 01:42.27 | jaymes | :) |
| 01:42.28 | t-jack | abrotman, There's a gullible channel/ |
| 01:42.31 | t-jack | ? |
| 01:42.31 | guestish | !dict gullible |
| 01:42.31 | Nyle | does linux have a function where you don't log off, but can login to x as another user, like the fast user switching service in windows xp, its a cool feature |
| 01:42.33 | dpkg | Dictionary 'gullible' (2 shown): easily tricked because of being too trusting; "gullible tourists taken in by the shell game" ;; naive and easily deceived or tricked; "at that early age she had been gullible and in love". |
| 01:42.34 | abrotman | t-jack: yes |
| 01:42.41 | guestish | Nyle: its a resource hog |
| 01:42.50 | guestish | Nyle: and its the same thing as su |
| 01:42.55 | jaymes | guestish, it was also my winxp root...not sure what that means |
| 01:43.07 | abrotman | t-jack: novell engineers still hang out in #gullible |
| 01:43.11 | guestish | jaymes: your windows drive, well then its all for the better ;) |
| 01:43.13 | t-jack | abrotman, What they talk about on a channel full og gullible people? |
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| 01:43.29 | abrotman | t-jack: novell taking over the world .. novell sold them on the idea years ago |
| 01:43.29 | guestish | Nyle: cept less advanced |
| 01:43.36 | guestish | Nyle: much less advanced |
| 01:43.38 | Peppito_ | abrotman: just curious why would you ask me if I been to the gullible channel? Whose tricked me? |
| 01:43.51 | jaymes | what's Novell? |
| 01:43.52 | abrotman | Peppito: tricked you? |
| 01:43.55 | abrotman | !novell |
| 01:43.58 | jaymes | :-D |
| 01:44.03 | Nyle | does dpkg bot hold any information on making your HP PSC 2410 series printer work, scanning and printing? |
| 01:44.03 | abrotman | apparently .. nothing :) |
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| 01:44.17 | jaymes | well, yeah, ok, that makes sense |
| 01:44.19 | abrotman | !HP PSC 2410 printer |
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| 01:44.23 | abrotman | Nyle: nope |
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| 01:44.30 | t-jack | abrotman, What's the cmd to clear the install queue? I foolishly entered install kde to Sid... |
| 01:44.32 | Peppito_ | I know there is a certification for Novell it might be an operating system or a lenguage |
| 01:44.33 | Aan | Hi. I installed debian sarge using the new installer.. where do I go from now to get wifi working? my card is supported by the latest wlan package.. |
| 01:44.34 | abrotman | Nyle: linuxprinting.org |
| 01:44.36 | jaymes | !dpkg novell |
| 01:44.40 | abrotman | t-jack: with apt-get? |
| 01:44.44 | Nyle | thanks |
| 01:44.52 | abrotman | !cups |
| 01:44.52 | jaymes | !dpkg novell? |
| 01:44.52 | dpkg | from memory, cups is a spiffy new printing system. or available under the GPL since june 1999., or making loads of trouble if you try to use it. what breast size?, or available at http://www.cups.org (or so says http://www.easysw.com), or see cups-unstable, or http://localhost:631/admin, or see cups setup |
| 01:45.02 | t-jack | abrotman, Yes. Console based install. |
| 01:45.07 | Peppito_ | I heard tht Novell is real old thought and rarely used nowdays not sure what it is exactly |
| 01:45.17 | abrotman | t-jack: uhm .. apt-get -f install ? |
| 01:45.30 | jaymes | hmm |
| 01:45.41 | jaymes | dpkg knows, but it won't tell just everyone |
| 01:45.41 | dpkg | jaymes: I don't know, could you explain it? |
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| 01:45.52 | jaymes | dpkg, not in this lifetime |
| 01:45.52 | dpkg | jaymes: i haven't a clue |
| 01:45.53 | t-jack | abrotman, That doesn't clear the queue. It forces install. |
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| 01:46.09 | abrotman | t-jack: ask to remove it? |
| 01:46.14 | Peppito_ | Merlin: after I do this what do I do |
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| 01:46.33 | felipe_ | Hi there! |
| 01:46.36 | felipe_ | I need help |
| 01:46.37 | abrotman | how do you accidentally install crap like kde? |
| 01:46.40 | abrotman | !help |
| 01:46.46 | abrotman | !help me |
| 01:46.49 | macy | dpkg you dont have a clue at any thing do you |
| 01:46.49 | dpkg | i haven't a clue, macy |
| 01:46.50 | abrotman | dpkg: you suck |
| 01:46.51 | dpkg | Dream on, abrotman. These lips will never touch your flesh. |
| 01:46.57 | jaymes | what happens if I delete a line from /etc/mtab? |
| 01:47.19 | abrotman | jaymes: ever seen a kittykat pie? |
| 01:47.45 | jaymes | abrotman, no, but I've screwed the pooch before; is that similar? |
| 01:47.46 | PBMonster189 | abrotman: how exactly do i burn it as an image? |
| 01:47.57 | felipe_ | Usually my apt-get downloads things @ 37kbps, but when I try to browse any site it takes a while to load...Is there any explanation? |
| 01:47.57 | abrotman | PBMonster189: i'm not a nero expert .. |
| 01:47.59 | PBMonster189 | abrotman do i use alcohol 120 or something and make it into one? |
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| 01:48.08 | abrotman | PBMonster189: check under file menu for burn image |
| 01:48.21 | abrotman | jaymes: no .. i suppose you could .. but i bet it's not recommended |
| 01:48.24 | Peppito_ | Merlincorey: After I do that command and it finishes what must I do |
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| 01:48.29 | t-jack | abrotman, trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde3/kcm_kontactknt.so', which is also in package kontact |
| 01:48.39 | abrotman | jaymes: and whent the system shuts down .. it won't try to umount it |
| 01:48.52 | jaymes | abrotman, well, it's not really there anyway; the /dev file doesn't exist anymore |
| 01:48.55 | abrotman | t-jack: man dpkg .. look for --force-overwrite |
| 01:49.05 | abrotman | jaymes: ok .. what's the worst that happens? |
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| 01:49.09 | tictac | deadcat: you around? |
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| 01:49.16 | felipe_ | Not sure if I had to set anything or not...Could n1 help me plz? |
| 01:49.19 | t-jack | abrotman, Right. Thanks. |
| 01:49.25 | macy | felipe you using mozilla |
| 01:49.26 | jaymes | abrotman, it probably won't do anything at all; just not try to umount it |
| 01:49.44 | jaymes | dun DUN! |
| 01:49.53 | felipe_ | macy Ive tried mozilla, konkedor, dillo....All of them are the same |
| 01:49.59 | Peppito_ | how is it that you go back a directory? |
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| 01:50.10 | jaymes | hmm |
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| 01:50.19 | jaymes | HEY! |
| 01:50.21 | macy | how fast is you cp |
| 01:50.22 | jaymes | it worked |
| 01:50.23 | felipe_ | macy all of em take more time then it should |
| 01:50.32 | jaymes | I can ls mountpoint & nothing is there |
| 01:50.45 | Peppito_ | !dpgk How do you go back directory |
| 01:50.45 | felipe_ | macy k6 300 |
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| 01:50.51 | jaymes | wonder if I can mount over it now |
| 01:50.59 | odium | peppito_ cd ..! |
| 01:51.06 | abrotman | felipe_: bad dns server? |
| 01:51.10 | Aan2343 | ah.... sarge doesn't come with gcc or kernel source.. |
| 01:51.16 | Aan2343 | nor wlan.. |
| 01:51.16 | odium | w/o the ! |
| 01:51.17 | felipe_ | macy 256 cable |
| 01:51.20 | abrotman | aan234: yes it does |
| 01:51.21 | abrotman | wtf |
| 01:51.26 | Peppito_ | odium: thank you I was doign cd.. |
| 01:51.27 | macy | you using debian testing |
| 01:51.28 | jharrison | shogun assassin |
| 01:51.31 | Aan2343 | yes.. |
| 01:51.36 | Aan2343 | the one from the website.. |
| 01:51.36 | abrotman | it does |
| 01:51.37 | felipe_ | macy telling you that when I apt it goes fast |
| 01:51.50 | macy | i no |
| 01:51.50 | odium | I occasionally alias cd .. to cd.. |
| 01:51.51 | abrotman | aan234: what's on the CD? |
| 01:51.52 | felipe_ | macy but the browser.... |
| 01:51.56 | Aan2343 | netinstall |
| 01:52.01 | Aan2343 | 100 meg file. |
| 01:52.21 | abrotman | aan234: and there's no kernel-source or gcc-xxx on the cd? |
| 01:52.28 | macy | i had that happen and it was may firewall |
| 01:52.36 | Aan2343 | abrotman, checking the cdrom right now.. |
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| 01:53.20 | felipe_ | macy sure it isnt the firewall |
| 01:53.41 | PBMonster189 | abrotman: its burned to a cd-r hopefully right... |
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| 01:53.51 | macy | but i was using fedroa core |
| 01:54.09 | abrotman | PBMonster189: easy to tell |
| 01:54.11 | jaymes | nifty; I mounted over successfully |
| 01:54.18 | abrotman | PBMonster189: open the CD in windows .. do you see 1 file or many? |
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| 01:54.32 | felipe_ | macy...well ty anyway |
| 01:54.38 | abrotman | felipe_: dns issue? |
| 01:54.45 | abrotman | felipe_: is one of your dns servers lame |
| 01:54.45 | abrotman | ? |
| 01:55.09 | felipe_ | abrotman but is that possible if I apt @ 37kbps? |
| 01:55.11 | PBMonster189 | abrotman: many... |
| 01:55.15 | abrotman | felipe_: yes |
| 01:55.18 | sharth | PBMonster189: thats good. |
| 01:55.22 | abrotman | felipe_: think about it this way |
| 01:55.28 | sharth | PBMonster189: boot from that disc to install debian gnu/linux. |
| 01:55.32 | felipe_ | abrotman ow... |
| 01:55.34 | abrotman | felipe_: once you start a download .. no more dns lookups |
| 01:55.55 | abrotman | felipe_: but surfing the web .. ever ... thread probably does a lookup |
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| 01:55.58 | felipe_ | abrotman Hmmm...Thats true |
| 01:56.00 | abrotman | PBMonster189: then it's right |
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| 01:56.15 | Aan2343243 | abrotman...how can I know whether I have the source and gcc on Cd? thanks. |
| 01:56.19 | zarchne | "DSA (563-1) seems to be broken, don't upgrade yet": oops, too late. Ironically I was just trying to get it working yesterday. |
| 01:56.19 | user01 | is there a command like Xconfigurator? |
| 01:56.24 | felipe_ | abrotman So a solution would be changing dns? |
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| 01:56.38 | karsten | user01: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 01:56.38 | abrotman | felipe_: you can try it .. or manually query it with dig/host/nslookup |
| 01:56.46 | Goetme | does anyone know a good manual to draw graphics using GTK ? |
| 01:56.50 | user01 | karsten: thanks |
| 01:56.54 | Goetme | in order to code a simple game |
| 01:56.58 | karsten | Goetme: ?? |
| 01:56.59 | Peppito_ | user01 dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 01:57.02 | abrotman | Aan2343243: did you scan the CD with apt-setup? |
| 01:57.04 | felipe_ | abrotman my debian is a client of a w2k |
| 01:57.06 | gravity | karsten: What was the problem? |
| 01:57.07 | karsten | Goetme: gimp? |
| 01:57.14 | abrotman | felipe_: huh? |
| 01:57.19 | felipe_ | abrotman on w2k surfing is fast |
| 01:57.19 | karsten | gravity: For some reason, the front USB ports don't always work. |
| 01:57.25 | abrotman | felipe_: huh? |
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| 01:57.29 | karsten | gravity: swapped to the back. |
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| 01:57.38 | gravity | Fun with shitty hardware |
| 01:57.39 | abrotman | felipe_: you mean you're doing internet sharing with win2k as the router? |
| 01:57.42 | Aan2343243 | abrotman..not yet.. trying now. |
| 01:57.47 | skel | does anyone own and at&t ogo ? |
| 01:57.50 | felipe_ | abrotman Yes |
| 01:57.51 | karsten | gravity: Moderately flaky at times. |
| 01:57.55 | abrotman | ogo? |
| 01:58.03 | felipe_ | abrotman ? |
| 01:58.06 | skel | abrotman: like tmobile sidekick |
| 01:58.10 | abrotman | felipe_: oh .. then i have no idea .. i don't know how windows internet connection sharing works |
| 01:58.15 | abrotman | oh |
| 01:58.27 | felipe_ | abrotman thats sad |
| 01:58.36 | abrotman | felipe_: why? |
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| 01:58.48 | macy | dig host nslookup |
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| 01:59.00 | felipe_ | abrotman w2k sux |
| 01:59.04 | abrotman | felipe_: i have a router .. i don't need windows to screw up my internet |
| 01:59.10 | felipe_ | abrotman I want to make my debian the server |
| 01:59.17 | Peppito_ | abrotman: I did the tar xjf kernel-source-2.6.8.tar.gz2 and all these stuff cam down my screen, is there anything else I have to do now? |
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| 01:59.31 | MeanGene | i have a problem - my USB stick times out very quickly and locks up the whole system hard... |
| 01:59.38 | abrotman | Peppito_: uhm .. should i know what you're doing? |
| 01:59.44 | abrotman | felipe_: so do it |
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| 01:59.56 | abrotman | MerlinCorey: what is Peppito_ doing? |
| 02:00.09 | sussudio | abrotman: being a tard? |
| 02:00.09 | felipe_ | abrotman But my debian has only one network board |
| 02:00.15 | abrotman | felipe_: oh |
| 02:00.18 | jml | I'm making a Debian package of a php app. What do I need to know in addition to the stuff described in the debian new maintainers guide? |
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| 02:00.37 | tty1 | good mornin.... errr.. evening :) |
| 02:00.38 | macy | add 1 |
| 02:00.43 | Peppito_ | abrotman: I think melicorey is afk. she told me to do apt-get install kernel-source-2.6.8 so i did |
| 02:00.54 | gravity | jml: Check the policy package, as well as the developers reference. |
| 02:00.54 | felipe_ | abrotman Thats bad...I should get one board from my w2k and install here |
| 02:00.56 | abrotman | Peppito_: in order to do what? |
| 02:01.02 | abrotman | felipe_: up to you .. |
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| 02:01.11 | gravity | jml: In addition, I'd bet that there's a PHP policy that's not finalized, so I'd google for it |
| 02:01.16 | felipe_ | abrotman things will be better probably |
| 02:01.20 | abrotman | felipe_: probably |
| 02:01.29 | jml | gravity: I wouldn't have thought of that last one. Thanks. |
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| 02:01.48 | felipe_ | abrotman thx for your help folk |
| 02:01.58 | Aan2343243 | i seem to have gcc-3.3-base |
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| 02:02.01 | user01 | how much memory should i allocate to an i810 driver? or should i just leave that part blank? (its onboard graphics) |
| 02:02.05 | Aan2343243 | no gcc and no make.. and no wlan. |
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| 02:02.44 | Peppito_ | abrotman: I am trying to install nforce2 Soundstorm drivers provided at http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_nforce_1.0-0283 I downloaded the driver and tried installing it by typing this command sh NFORCE-Linux-x86-1.0-0283-pkg1.run but got alot of errors and I told Corey about the errors and told me to apt-get that kernel-source |
| 02:03.09 | felipe_ | abrotman cu |
| 02:03.17 | abrotman | oh dear loard |
| 02:03.21 | abrotman | felipe_: np |
| 02:03.25 | Caedmon | Having a problem with my Debian SID box.. I know I'm missing a package off apt to be able to compile things, but I can't figure out which.. I've got gcc installed etc.. but apache config still can't find gcc in the path.. |
| 02:03.27 | Caedmon | Thoughts? |
| 02:03.39 | sharth | apt-get install build-essential |
| 02:03.41 | abrotman | Peppito_: uhm.. try to run it again? |
| 02:03.43 | sussudio | hmm tardz |
| 02:04.00 | Peppito_ | abortman: I just did and same exact errors |
| 02:04.04 | sussudio | !sid faq |
| 02:04.04 | dpkg | sid faq is, like, http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html |
| 02:04.17 | abrotman | Peppito_: is that it? .. no error? |
| 02:04.39 | Peppito_ | I get errors while trying to install the drivers |
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| 02:04.42 | abrotman | Peppito_: i mean .. you're not going to share? |
| 02:04.45 | [Cadet] | bah |
| 02:04.51 | [Cadet] | !freebsd |
| 02:04.51 | dpkg | freebsd is, like, better than debian |
| 02:04.52 | Peppito_ | oh hold on |
| 02:05.05 | sharth | !ubuntu |
| 02:05.05 | dpkg | i heard ubuntu is NOT Debian, see http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu |
| 02:05.12 | odium | hey. who made dpkg confused? |
| 02:05.16 | [Cadet] | not a very good thing for dpkg to say |
| 02:05.21 | odium | I'll bet it was drocsid. |
| 02:05.36 | sussudio | !factinfo freebsd |
| 02:05.37 | dpkg | freebsd -- last modified at Tue Sep 7 06:09:55 2004 by carrett!~garrett@adsl-68-125-49-12.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net; it has been requested 12 times, last by [Cadet], 46s ago. |
| 02:05.41 | sussudio | fucker |
| 02:05.47 | abrotman | nice |
| 02:05.51 | abrotman | ~freebsd |
| 02:05.52 | apt | A stable secure open source operating system.. URL: http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD: Nothing runs like a daemon with a pitch fork. |
| 02:06.01 | sussudio | !no, freebsd is <reply> FreeBSD is dying! |
| 02:06.03 | abrotman | @freebsd |
| 02:06.03 | ravenbird | from memory, freebsd is a Unix variant. It doesn't have apt. |
| 02:06.09 | user01 | actually im not sure if i have the right driver it says 810/830 and i dont see an 830... |
| 02:06.10 | sussudio | !listauth carrett |
| 02:06.10 | abrotman | ilike ravenbird's |
| 02:06.11 | dpkg | factoid author list by 'carrett' (3 shown): evilwm ;; qotd15 ;; carrett. |
| 02:06.19 | sussudio | !evilwm |
| 02:06.20 | dpkg | it has been said that evilwm is a borderless wm. extremely minimalistic (if you care about that kind of thing) |
| 02:06.32 | user01 | 845GL chipset |
| 02:06.49 | ykke | sussudio, If FreeBSD would have been dying, Linux had appeard in the top 50 uptime stats on netcraft.com. |
| 02:06.56 | tictac | damn |
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| 02:07.01 | PBMonster189 | abrotman: it was all going well till it got to the partition, it couldnt find the hard drive, which makes me think i hooked it up wrong.... |
| 02:07.02 | abrotman | !clap |
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| 02:07.12 | Aan2343243 | so what are the steps that I should take to get Wireless working in sarge? |
| 02:07.14 | tictac | using genromfs doesnt work as a replacement for mkcramfs |
| 02:07.15 | abrotman | PBMonster189: well . it's possible |
| 02:07.19 | Aan2343243 | thanks. |
| 02:07.24 | sussudio | ykke: you've been outed now. |
| 02:07.31 | tictac | it just sits there after Loading the blocks into the Ram Disk |
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| 02:07.51 | abrotman | !loopback |
| 02:07.51 | dpkg | loopback is probably how you talk to yourself. "iface lo inet loopback" and "auto lo" in /etc/network/interfaces, or "ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0" from the shell. A misconfigured loopback could cause "neighbour table overflow" messages. a driver to handle files as if they were devices. |
| 02:07.55 | odium | sussudio, i must be confused. sorry |
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| 02:07.59 | ykke | sussudio, Well, If you can't see the truth, you're the only thing that's dying. |
| 02:07.59 | abrotman | that's no good |
| 02:08.02 | sussudio | !confuse odium |
| 02:08.03 | dpkg | no, them is our gouda today, odium? by order of the dictatorship of mongolia with extra ham |
| 02:08.06 | sussudio | !lose ykke |
| 02:08.06 | dpkg | ykke: You Lose. |
| 02:08.08 | PBMonster189 | abrotman: there are more pins than the cable is wide... |
| 02:08.11 | IRCDaddy | What's the difference between the Biz card and net installl CDs for Sarge snapshot iso's? |
| 02:08.20 | abrotman | PBMonster189: wrong cable |
| 02:08.21 | PBMonster189 | abrotman: and having never done this, i dont know what to do |
| 02:08.24 | odium | wobble wobble, tumble. |
| 02:08.27 | abrotman | PBMonster189: you used a floppy cable |
| 02:08.36 | abrotman | or you have scsi drives |
| 02:08.45 | PBMonster189 | i have many drives sitting around |
| 02:08.47 | abrotman | IRCDaddy: use netinst |
| 02:08.51 | Aan | okay, so I have ethernet working but no wifi..i need wifi to apt-get... |
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| 02:08.54 | IRCDaddy | I know it's samller. What does the biger one have? |
| 02:09.04 | abrotman | Aan: why? use ethernet |
| 02:09.12 | abrotman | IRCDaddy: a functional system'/ |
| 02:09.13 | abrotman | ? |
| 02:09.13 | odium | Who suggests chatzilla? |
| 02:09.16 | Aan | also, the sarge CD version doesn't seem to have Wlan-ng, source, and make |
| 02:09.17 | ykke | sussudio, Use you crappy bot commands, it won't change my mind. 8] |
| 02:09.26 | PBMonster189 | abrotman: can i turn off the power with the instillation not complete? |
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| 02:09.33 | ykke | your* |
| 02:09.37 | tictac | PBMonster189: of course.. |
| 02:09.47 | sussudio | ykke: you've lost, you little bsd ho. |
| 02:09.52 | abrotman | ykke: why are you here again? |
| 02:09.58 | sussudio | abrotman: bsd trolling |
| 02:10.01 | abrotman | PBMonster189: yes |
| 02:10.06 | ykke | abrotman, I have been here all the time, if you don't noticed that. 8] |
| 02:10.08 | abrotman | sussudio: mount iso loopback? |
| 02:10.10 | IRCDaddy | abrotman, I use dial up so isn't the biz-card one better? What is added to the net install that biz don't have? |
| 02:10.21 | abrotman | ykke: no .. i didn't .. you must not have much to say |
| 02:10.29 | abrotman | IRCDaddy: no |
| 02:10.32 | sussudio | debian.log.20041005:[13:39] <ykke> pro, Slackware has one great package manager. |
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| 02:10.34 | abrotman | netinst is better for you |
| 02:10.37 | sussudio | hm, just a general troll |
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| 02:10.50 | abrotman | sussudio: can anyone query piggy? |
| 02:10.58 | tcsetattr | BSD is the escape hatch we can all use if something horrible happens to Linux |
| 02:11.00 | odium | Is there a QNX channel? |
| 02:11.06 | abrotman | #qnx? |
| 02:11.28 | Piggy | O_o |
| 02:11.28 | foxcokk | can someone tell me what the best way to disallow shell logins is? i dont want root to be allows to ssh or shell.. i only want the sudo. or maybe i am going about this all wrong. let me know what you think. |
| 02:11.29 | odium | wow |
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| 02:11.47 | sussudio | abrotman: no |
| 02:11.54 | debian | foxcokk: you can disallow ssh as root |
| 02:11.55 | abrotman | sussudio: why not? |
| 02:12.15 | debian | foxcokk: but denying root shell login would not be wise |
| 02:12.24 | ykke | sussudio, I can tell you this, BSD is not dying more than anything else. |
| 02:12.25 | sussudio | abrotman: because! |
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| 02:12.30 | foxcokk | debian: well how do i disallow ssh as root?> |
| 02:12.37 | ykke | It's all going down. |
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| 02:13.07 | IRCDaddy | abrotman, I was told Biz was better for me because I could download only what i need per dail up. That's false? Please tell me why you prefer netinst. Is the bix card not functional? |
| 02:13.09 | debian | foxcokk: look at /etc/ssh/sshd_config, you cannot get more explicit instruction in it |
| 02:13.11 | jml | gravity: there seems to be a PHP policy in the works, but I can't find any drafts online. |
| 02:13.13 | zparta | *BSD rules!! |
| 02:13.19 | sussudio | debian.log.20040816.gz:[04:24] <dondelelcaro> ykke: you started randomnly rambling about how FreeBSD was a distribution as opposed to linux just being a kernel which was rather pointless, considering the fact that we were discussing Debian which is also a distribution. Thus, FsckIt's question still stood. |
| 02:13.21 | zparta | Long live *BSD |
| 02:13.25 | sussudio | it's BSD trolled before. and been warned. |
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| 02:13.41 | ykke | And to be honest, I don't give a fuck about what the morons on slashdot writes about. |
| 02:13.49 | Goetme | what's the best way to code a simple game (a bitmap image moving around the screen) using GTK? should I use some special library or something ? |
| 02:13.50 | gravity | jml: Well, then just keep an eye out for it I guess |
| 02:13.58 | zparta | BSD is far from dead |
| 02:14.02 | ykke | They're like modern society, only showing ONE side of the truth. |
| 02:14.03 | jml | gravity: will do. Until then, I'll keep tinkering with the doco that I have, and work from the sources of similar packages. |
| 02:14.06 | debian | sussudio: they troll here because even the bsd channels are dying and nobody is listening. XD |
| 02:14.07 | abrotman | IRCDaddy: because netinst gives you a working system |
| 02:14.08 | sussudio | uh oh. another one. |
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| 02:14.11 | abrotman | IRCDaddy: you do what you want |
| 02:14.16 | imsodul | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:14.28 | IRCDaddy | adroman Thanks for your advice. |
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| 02:14.47 | ykke | debian, BSD is more alive than you are, after 20+ years of development it's stronger than ever. |
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| 02:15.11 | zparta | i dont know where they got that BSD is dead |
| 02:15.17 | jml | gravity: thanks anyway. |
| 02:15.23 | zparta | if it is dead why is it still being developed |
| 02:15.31 | zparta | that i dont get :P |
| 02:15.39 | ykke | zparta, BSD = God. |
| 02:15.46 | ykke | s/God/Jesus/ |
| 02:15.59 | ykke | Jesus is dead, still people believe in him. |
| 02:16.12 | abrotman | ykke: shut up |
| 02:16.15 | zparta | if jesus ever existed that is |
| 02:16.18 | dondelelcaro | ykke: can you go be OT somewhere else. |
| 02:16.47 | zparta | lol realy funny that there is no linux server on netcraft top50 list :P |
| 02:16.53 | ykke | Yeah, I know. |
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| 02:17.02 | abrotman | who the fuck cares? |
| 02:17.02 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@ipv6.hispan.se] by dondelelcaro |
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| 02:17.28 | ykke | That's because Linux based servers has to update like once or twice every month. |
| 02:17.40 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: ykke gets to stay? |
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| 02:17.59 | abrotman | ok .. nm |
| 02:18.06 | imsodul | BSD for world domination |
| 02:18.10 | abrotman | holy shit |
| 02:18.11 | yxa | how do i force fsck every reboot? |
| 02:18.12 | sussudio | ... |
| 02:18.15 | abrotman | it's fucking a room full of morons |
| 02:18.18 | abrotman | !room |
| 02:18.18 | dpkg | CHANNEL! |
| 02:18.21 | abrotman | :) |
| 02:18.28 | imsodul | ccccccccc BSD for world domination ccccccccccccccc |
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| 02:18.47 | sussudio | imsodul = ykke |
| 02:18.49 | abrotman | fucking morons |
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| 02:19.22 | gravity | Man, don't these people have better things to do with their time? |
| 02:19.34 | sussudio | gravity: no. they're swedish. |
| 02:19.37 | IRCDaddy | When I get Sarge installed, can it be built up to something like, Knoppix, Xandros or MEPIS (hard drive installed) without loseing the distro tested safe nature of Deb? |
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| 02:20.03 | abrotman | IRCDaddy: no |
| 02:20.13 | crisen | is there are way i can get an old package that once was in testing? |
| 02:20.14 | gravity | IRCDaddy: What do you mean by that? |
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| 02:20.17 | user01 | built up? |
| 02:20.23 | dondelelcaro | crisen: snapshot.debian.net |
| 02:20.26 | Aan982 | fuck...giving up sarge |
| 02:20.32 | abrotman | i think he's asking if he can install sarge over mepis |
| 02:20.37 | crisen | dondelelcaro: ahh yes, thanks |
| 02:20.48 | user01 | i think he is asking if he can turn srage into knoppix |
| 02:20.52 | user01 | sarge |
| 02:20.57 | IRCDaddy | abrotman, I assume you're kidding. |
| 02:21.23 | gravity | IRCDaddy: Do you just mean that you want more up to date software than what's in stable? |
| 02:21.27 | IRCDaddy | gravity, What you mean "what do i mean"? |
| 02:21.30 | sussudio | gravity: http://home.wanadoo.nl/sussudio/timmy3.jpg |
| 02:21.39 | abrotman | IRCDaddy: you can .. but it's not debian anymore |
| 02:21.39 | user01 | knoppix is for running on a cd...not that great installed as OS...i tried it |
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| 02:21.49 | gravity | IRCDaddy: Your question doesn't make sense. WHat do you mean "build up"? |
| 02:21.52 | abrotman | sussudio: it's raping the lion |
| 02:22.10 | gravity | Hahaha |
| 02:22.19 | percy | hello ,ereryall |
| 02:22.21 | gravity | Delightfully kinky |
| 02:23.22 | KrispET | ah, #linux bf24 - a new install |
| 02:23.39 | KrispET | makes for a nice evening |
| 02:24.21 | IRCDaddy | gravity, Yes, iI think "Stable" Debian is not for me. I think "Testing" is actually stable enough for my needs. Maybe Sid, but I doubt it. Built up means does it do less? |
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| 02:24.49 | bob2 | sarge is sarge |
| 02:25.02 | bob2 | in the time you've asked these same silly questions over and overm you could have tried it by now |
| 02:25.09 | gravity | IRCDaddy: Built up doesn't mean it does less. If anything, it would be the opposite. I don't understand. |
| 02:25.12 | jharrison | time for bed |
| 02:25.16 | abrotman | bed? |
| 02:25.16 | jharrison | goodnight everyone |
| 02:25.17 | bob2 | if you want an idiot-proof distro, don't use Debian |
| 02:25.20 | jharrison | abrotman: yeah |
| 02:25.32 | jharrison | abrotman: its 1030 here and im an old man |
| 02:25.45 | user01 | i agree woody is too cold sid is too hot and sarge is just right :) |
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| 02:25.58 | abrotman | jharrison: uhm .. |
| 02:26.04 | abrotman | jharrison: i'm in the same time zone |
| 02:26.10 | jharrison | abrotman: yeah I know |
| 02:26.11 | bob2 | IRCDaddy: is your question "Is sarge as easy to install as Xandros?"? |
| 02:26.14 | gravity | Heh... if you want an idiot-proof distro use Ubuntu! |
| 02:26.22 | user01 | but woody probably rocks for server stability |
| 02:26.25 | bob2 | IRCDaddy: or is it "Does sarge have software as recent as knoppix?"? |
| 02:26.27 | bob2 | or both? |
| 02:26.28 | abrotman | jharrison: and i'm not much younger |
| 02:26.32 | bob2 | ubuntu 4 eva. |
| 02:26.35 | gravity | hehe |
| 02:26.45 | jharrison | abrotman: ill be hitting the big 30 on the 17th |
| 02:26.47 | user01 | isn't knoppix a sid/arge hybrid? |
| 02:26.49 | IRCDaddy | bob2, Hey, it's not a silly question is you don't know the answer. What can we do here but give an educated guess? |
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| 02:27.03 | abrotman | jharrison: i just turned 28 oct 2nd |
| 02:27.05 | bob2 | IRCDaddy: your question makes no sense |
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| 02:27.17 | bob2 | IRCDaddy: now, read what I said and reply before saying anything else |
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| 02:27.22 | bob2 | sussudio: I know |
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| 02:27.35 | bob2 | and he was banned for walking thr fineline between trolling and stupidity |
| 02:27.40 | jharrison | abrotman: cool |
| 02:27.46 | abrotman | not cool |
| 02:27.52 | jharrison | abrotman: I didnt know you were a fellow october dude |
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| 02:27.57 | jharrison | abrotman: oh sorry |
| 02:27.59 | abrotman | i'm old! :) |
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| 02:28.02 | jharrison | abrotman: me too |
| 02:28.10 | hacim | when I encrypt a message to someone in mutt, it asks me for a keyID, even if I type in a keyID I have imported into my keyring, it still takes a VERY long time to come back. It also seems to re-check the trustdb every time I use gpg, that takes a long time also because I have a lot of keys |
| 02:28.12 | jharrison | abrotman: my best friend has his birthday 6 days after me |
| 02:28.29 | abrotman | jharrison: yay |
| 02:28.30 | _kaiser_ | i love debian. :-) |
| 02:28.36 | abrotman | jharrison: 6 days of drinking? |
| 02:28.42 | bob2 | no-auto-check-trustdb |
| 02:28.49 | bob2 | hacim: that in ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf |
| 02:28.53 | jharrison | abrotman: hehe sure |
| 02:28.58 | abrotman | woohoo |
| 02:29.11 | hacim | bob2: well, I want it to be able to check the trustdb sometimes, it seems useful, just not so frequently |
| 02:29.19 | dondelelcaro | hacim: then make a cron job that does it |
| 02:29.22 | bob2 | hacim: run it in cron at 6am each day |
| 02:29.25 | hacim | ooh |
| 02:29.29 | hacim | now there's thinkin |
| 02:29.32 | bob2 | hacim: or sometime when you're probably asleep |
| 02:29.34 | dondelelcaro | 01 05 */3 * * gpg --batch --refresh-keys 2&>1 /dev/null; gpg --batch --check-trustdb 2&>1 /dev/null |
| 02:29.42 | hacim | hehe, thanks dondel |
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| 02:30.04 | hacim | bob2: and dondelelcaro you guys have saved my keyboard |
| 02:30.17 | hacim | I would've beaten it to a pulp pretty soon |
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| 02:30.22 | IRCDaddy | I would like to point out again that sussudio, is a ban evader. |
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| 02:30.36 | abrotman | oh good .. start trouble |
| 02:30.51 | The_Ball | anyone got any bad experience with loopback mounting a filesystem image over smb? |
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| 02:31.18 | xio04 | i'm trying to search through a bunch of files for somthing and need to find which files contain what i'm searching for, can i do that from console? |
| 02:31.21 | hacim | jeez |
| 02:31.21 | hacim | gpg: key 8807529B: "Guido Trotter <ultrotter@quaqua.net>" 362 new signatures |
| 02:31.27 | bob2 | IRCDaddy: no he's not |
| 02:31.29 | hacim | that guy has friends |
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| 02:31.34 | bob2 | IRCDaddy: and answer my questions |
| 02:31.38 | jharrison | goodnight everyone |
| 02:31.45 | abrotman | jharrison: nightynight |
| 02:31.46 | u_int32_t | hey whats the process for enabling wireless on a debian laptop |
| 02:32.05 | u_int32_t | are the appropriate modules built into the kernel already |
| 02:32.28 | abrotman | u_int32_t: depends on the device |
| 02:33.35 | u_int32_t | abrotman its gonna be a dlink DWL-122 |
| 02:33.43 | nvz | !test |
| 02:33.43 | dpkg | No, nvz, you're not online any more. |
| 02:33.43 | abrotman | u_int32_t: 11g? |
| 02:33.47 | nvz | I didnt think so |
| 02:33.50 | abrotman | !hurt nvz |
| 02:33.52 | u_int32_t | abrotman yup |
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| 02:34.03 | nvz | well everyone shut up at once |
| 02:34.05 | abrotman | u_int32_t: check madwifi.sf.net and prism54.org |
| 02:34.09 | abrotman | !madwifi |
| 02:34.09 | dpkg | from memory, madwifi is http://www.mattfoster.clara.co.uk/madwifi-faq.htm |
| 02:34.14 | abrotman | eor that site :) |
| 02:34.25 | jharrison | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:34.29 | u_int32_t | oh wait its 11b |
| 02:34.33 | nvz | damn |
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| 02:34.46 | nvz | I knew we had to stop bad bugs, but I didnt know kittens were involved |
| 02:35.02 | nvz | this has got to stop |
| 02:35.06 | jharrison | http://www.grassouille.org/blogmax/041009.html |
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| 02:35.28 | yarddog | . |
| 02:35.38 | jharrison | nvz: apparently the badgers and The Taiwanese are to blame for most of this mess |
| 02:35.53 | abrotman | jharrison: bed! |
| 02:35.57 | nvz | heh |
| 02:36.12 | nvz | abrotman: lost all faith in baseball? |
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| 02:36.17 | PBMonster189 | abrotman: ive tried everything i can think of an it still cant detect the hard drive |
| 02:36.21 | PBMonster189 | any ideas? |
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| 02:36.55 | abrotman | PBMonster189: do the cables match yet? |
| 02:37.04 | abrotman | PBMonster189: and did you line up pin1 correctly? |
| 02:37.08 | abrotman | on bboth ends |
| 02:37.14 | abrotman | PBMonster189: does the bios see the HDD? |
| 02:37.30 | abrotman | farking baseball |
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| 02:37.41 | nvz | bios's are for fuckin pussies |
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| 02:38.26 | IRCDaddy | So my Q is, will Sarge (after much install time and effort) be a real player in the desktop workstation arena WITHOUT going out of the Debian Sarge pool? It's starting to look like maybe, if I want a custom Kernel and smooth apt-get installing that I'll need Debain "pure". |
| 02:38.29 | IRCDaddy | Who's done it? |
| 02:38.29 | abrotman | nvz: you've been spending too much time with 12 y/os |
| 02:38.39 | PBMonster189 | abrotman: no i dont think it does |
| 02:38.40 | abrotman | IRCDaddy: it is for me .. |
| 02:38.48 | abrotman | PBMonster189: then debian wont |
| 02:38.52 | nvz | abrotman: na I didnt stay long I get annoyed by the extensive use of lol |
| 02:38.56 | abrotman | lol |
| 02:38.58 | abrotman | lol |
| 02:38.59 | abrotman | lol |
| 02:39.00 | bob2 | IRCDaddy: "yes". |
| 02:39.05 | PBMonster189 | abrotman: ok, so back a step, what have i done wrong |
| 02:39.06 | bob2 | IRCDaddy: as I have explined to you in the past |
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| 02:39.15 | abrotman | PBMonster189: apparently the cabling for the HDD |
| 02:39.31 | nvz | abrotman: and I dont ever see any 12 year olds, I usually pick on the old fucktards |
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| 02:40.02 | nvz | abrotman: seen a prostitute in Small Business chat room |
| 02:40.11 | IRCDaddy | Do you think Sarge it a better target for me than Sid and is it true that if I went Sid then could go back to "pure" testing? |
| 02:40.20 | abrotman | holy mother .. just try sarge already |
| 02:40.23 | peterS | IRCDaddy: maybe and no |
| 02:40.48 | IRCDaddy | bob2, No bob you haven't explained the Q I just asked in the past. But thank you. |
| 02:40.49 | PBMonster189 | abrotman:i guess, are you sure it couldnt be a smaller cable, theres only one other spot on the motherboard i could put it and thats a size down |
| 02:41.13 | bob2 | IRCDaddy: yes, you've asked about sarge before. |
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| 02:41.54 | abrotman | PBMonster189: count the holes and pins .. if they don't match .. no |
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| 02:42.06 | abrotman | PBMonster189: should be 40 on both ends |
| 02:42.15 | abrotman | or something at least close |
| 02:42.33 | peterS | hacim: note that if a guy has 15 userids on a key (not unheard-of), 362 new signatures is probably really only 25 people or so |
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| 02:42.53 | IRCDaddy | abrotman, that not for you to freking decide! I have to do the work, the down load, the set up on my system not you AND I have installed many distros before. (including Woody) It's time consuming. But thank if you're tring to help me. |
| 02:43.33 | ponds | does anyone know if debian is planning to import the gentoo kernel patchsets as an option? |
| 02:43.34 | abrotman | IRCDaddy: sarge takes about 30 minutes of work |
| 02:43.35 | tcsetattr | tutoring someone in installing a hard drive for the first time over IRC... someone should be taking bets on how it ends. Electrocution at 1:100 odds... |
| 02:43.40 | PBMonster189 | abrotman: ive got quite a few of a 32 pin cable... |
| 02:43.51 | l3roy | the language is a good idea in concept, it just sucks now |
| 02:43.53 | abrotman | tcsetattr: no way .. loss of an eye |
| 02:43.58 | sussudio | wtf good are floppycables for a HD? |
| 02:44.02 | bob2 | ponds: if you want it, do it |
| 02:44.08 | abrotman | PBMonster189: needs about 40 |
| 02:44.09 | PBMonster189 | abrotman: i lied i cant count |
| 02:44.09 | bob2 | ponds: I doubt anyone actually cares enough to do so |
| 02:44.09 | abrotman | not 3e2 |
| 02:44.10 | abrotman | 32 |
| 02:44.14 | nvz | Indecision2004: Will IRCDaddy finally just fuckin install debian, or will he rage on his internal debate as each of the voices in his head ring throughout the halls of #debian? |
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| 02:44.21 | tuxillo | bye |
| 02:44.21 | ponds | ok, im just not a debian developer |
| 02:44.24 | abrotman | PBMonster189: so how many? |
| 02:44.35 | bob2 | ponds: you can still package it |
| 02:44.45 | jmej | part |
| 02:44.46 | ponds | yah, i was wondering if it would make it into debian itself |
| 02:44.50 | jmej | woops |
| 02:44.51 | ponds | was just a thought |
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| 02:45.04 | abrotman | PBMonster189: so how many? |
| 02:45.06 | bob2 | ponds: if someone cared to do it, it could |
| 02:45.49 | Aan2343 | is linspire dead? |
| 02:46.02 | abrotman | doubt it |
| 02:46.05 | hacim | peterS: true, but some of these are debian developers, so it is not unheard of that they might have that many signatures :) |
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| 02:46.08 | ponds | hope so |
| 02:46.09 | abrotman | but this isn't #lin* |
| 02:46.22 | peterS | hacim: all added at once - maybe... |
| 02:47.07 | Aan2343 | no more #linspire and #lindows.. :( |
| 02:47.09 | hacim | peterS: debconf and other conferences have been known to add hundres of new sigs, and i haven't updated my keys for sometime |
| 02:47.11 | abrotman | thank god |
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| 02:47.40 | Aan2343 | lindows was one of few distros that actually worked on my computer.. |
| 02:47.45 | peterS | hacim: I agree it's *possible*. but bear in mind that almost all gpg keys have at least two or three email addresses on them |
| 02:47.55 | hacim | true |
| 02:48.08 | peterS | hacim: and most people sign all of these |
| 02:48.11 | nvz | why would there be #lindows and #linspire channels on freenode? |
| 02:48.14 | pun- | if i were to make a partition so that i can clone my linux instalation, would that new partition on the (new)drive be primary or extended? and is it supposed to be ext3 as well? |
| 02:48.27 | Aan2343 | there used to be. |
| 02:48.33 | tcsetattr | pbmonster189, I haven't seen the entire conversation here but let me ask a couple things: 1. Is the hard drive making any noise at all to indicate that it's spinning 2. Did you plug power into it |
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| 02:49.06 | l3roy | [mX]: python seems to do pretty good for an interpreted language, coming close to compiled languages -- http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/ |
| 02:49.12 | pun- | ?;o |
| 02:49.27 | nvz | as I recall freenode is a for peer-directed projects I dont think those qualify as whatever the exact policy is I cant quote off the top of my head |
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| 02:51.00 | nvz | I am guessing they unofficially existed while supplies lasted |
| 02:51.11 | nvz | heh |
| 02:51.18 | abrotman | !pee |
| 02:51.22 | nvz | hah |
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| 02:53.37 | abrotman | johnnybgood? |
| 02:53.43 | nvz | nah, jimmybgood |
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| 02:53.59 | doleyb | Hi, I'm trying to put debian on my amd64 PC. But the installer says I have no hard disk. |
| 02:53.59 | IRCDaddy | Does Sarge have a PVR app in the pool? Sid? |
| 02:54.01 | nvz | you damn yankees |
| 02:54.15 | nvz | abrotman: boy I'll tell you whut. |
| 02:54.23 | doleyb | I assume that's because i have SATA. Yet, a knoppix cd can see the disk just fine. |
| 02:54.35 | abrotman | nvz: you like animals? |
| 02:54.42 | abrotman | nvz: i'm a redsox fan |
| 02:54.47 | bob2 | IRCDaddy: you keep using jargon incorrectly. |
| 02:54.54 | bob2 | IRCDaddy: apt-cache search pvr. |
| 02:54.55 | exobyte | anyone here have a soekris mobo? |
| 02:54.55 | abrotman | doleyb: #debian-amd64 |
| 02:54.58 | nvz | abrotman: yeah I suppose, all debends on the animal and its attitude |
| 02:55.18 | abrotman | exobyte: just so you know .. that sounds like a disease |
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| 02:55.35 | sussudio | gravity: play duran duran's rio on teh bass |
| 02:55.43 | exobyte | abrotman: heh |
| 02:55.49 | abrotman | her name is rio ... |
| 02:55.50 | doleyb | abrotman: I'm trying the i386 installer next. I think the problem is about disk controllers, not cpus. |
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| 02:55.56 | gravity | sussudio: You overestimate my ability :-) |
| 02:56.03 | sussudio | gravity: slow fingers? |
| 02:56.10 | abrotman | doleyb: no kidding .. but still ask #debian-amd64 .. who knows what hardware is in there |
| 02:56.10 | zeeeee | hi does anybody know how to recursively list everything under a dir over ftp? |
| 02:56.23 | abrotman | doleyb: isn't it sata? |
| 02:56.28 | IRCDaddy | Is it true that if I compile an app not in debian repositories, that it will fit OK (mostly) but if I install binaries and there depenancies then it;s trouble? |
| 02:56.28 | abrotman | doleyb: and whicn installer? |
| 02:56.33 | abrotman | doleyb: did you try linux26? |
| 02:56.33 | gravity | sussudio: Lack of motivation to learn any songs |
| 02:56.37 | nvz | hah |
| 02:56.42 | abrotman | doleyb: do you know your sata controller? |
| 02:56.43 | nvz | yeah that happens |
| 02:56.46 | sussudio | gravity: how about 'running with the devil'? |
| 02:56.51 | bob2 | IRCDaddy: why don't you just install Debian befoe asking all these obscure questions? |
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| 02:57.02 | DJ-KING | hey guys , i have installed debian 3.1 testing and using kppp to go on the internet .. after i get connected .. it does nothing all .. there is no such recieving or sending bytes .. any ideas ? |
| 02:57.06 | gravity | sussudio: Nope. I can play "Walking on the moon" 'cause it's easy |
| 02:57.07 | bob2 | IRCDaddy: you can do whatever the fuck you want, but if you're clueless and install stuff, things will break. |
| 02:57.11 | doleyb | abrotman: I tried linux26, but it said that kernel wasn't present (even though the boot text said it was) |
| 02:57.14 | sussudio | :-P |
| 02:57.18 | nvz | just listen and pick the damn think up and do what you hear. I imagine its got to be alot easier on a bass |
| 02:57.31 | abrotman | doleyb: tried the floppies? |
| 02:57.51 | nvz | the bass is usually the first thing I hear and figure out the chords from that. I just dont have a bass |
| 02:58.17 | sussudio | it's like asking someone who thinks he's good at the guitar to play the difficult bit of "Here comes the sun" |
| 02:58.18 | doleyb | abrotman: I don't have a floppy drive- I could get one, but it's hard to imagine floppy would work better. |
| 02:58.28 | abrotman | doleyb: ask #debian-amd64 |
| 02:58.34 | IRCDaddy | bob2 I can't repect anything you say with that profanity so please stop it or just ignore me. |
| 02:58.47 | abrotman | doleyb: and check the alioth site for hardware issues with your mobo |
| 02:58.59 | nvz | I like trying to play "Hey Baby" I prefer the Pearl Jam & Soundgarden version, but they are all nice |
| 02:59.14 | bob2 | IRCDaddy: stop asking the same questions over and over then. have you ever used linux before? |
| 02:59.22 | IRCDaddy | Anyone has the kind of install issues I'm asking about? |
| 02:59.59 | bob2 | IRCDaddy: you can install whatever you want from source, or binaries. |
| 03:00.03 | bob2 | IRCDaddy: just don't install to /usr |
| 03:00.08 | abrotman | use stow |
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| 03:00.57 | IRCDaddy | bob2 Darn Bob was that a real answer? Thanks, I think. |
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| 03:01.08 | bob2 | IRCDaddy: stop being a dick. |
| 03:01.24 | gravity | IRCDaddy: Don't be an ass to people who are trying to help you |
| 03:01.37 | IRCDaddy | I should say thanks? |
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| 03:01.41 | SaratogaCx | Excuse me, I have a question |
| 03:01.47 | abrotman | IRCDaddy: you really are being a dick .. |
| 03:01.53 | bob2 | IRCDaddy: you apparently have used linux very much or at all, so asking long-winded hypotheticals is a bit silly |
| 03:01.56 | abrotman | IRCDaddy: do you have a junk box to try this stuff on? |
| 03:02.12 | abrotman | bob2: i think you lost a 'not' |
| 03:02.16 | yxa | how do i force fsck every reboot? |
| 03:02.28 | peterS | yxa: set the max mount count to 1 |
| 03:02.29 | bob2 | IRCDaddy: everyone's advising you just install it already because you will learn at 10 000 the speed you will by asking questions here |
| 03:02.31 | peterS | yxa: use 'tune2fs' for this |
| 03:02.34 | peterS | yxa: it has a manpage |
| 03:02.38 | nvz | abrotman: heh, I seen something hit the floor, when he reached for the enter key |
| 03:02.46 | IRCDaddy | Hey I'm asking the best I can here. Should I know everything before I can ask here? What your problem? |
| 03:02.48 | peterS | yxa: that's assuming you use ext2 or ext3. other filesystems might or might not have a similar mechanism |
| 03:02.57 | bob2 | IRCDaddy: no one expects you to know everything |
| 03:03.04 | bob2 | IRCDaddy: but why don't you just install it already? |
| 03:03.19 | bob2 | IRCDaddy: ask questions as you encounter problems, instead of trying to solve every possible futre problem now. |
| 03:03.29 | abrotman | IRCDaddy: you've asked more questions than 50 of our normal newbies :) |
| 03:03.31 | yxa | peterS yeah, ext3 |
| 03:03.33 | nvz | IRCDaddy: yeah you are making this an Indecision. you have been in here forever it seems talking about hypothetical install questions |
| 03:03.43 | SaratogaCx | IRCDaddy, back up your stuff, and plunge in. honestly its the quickest way to learn. if you want some extra information, get a book |
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| 03:03.54 | smgil | Hi, I have a quiestion. Do debian support XFS from SGI ? |
| 03:04.00 | peterS | yxa: so yeah, use tune2fs to set the maximum mount count to 1. either you can do 'man tune2fs' or I can do 'man tune2fs' to see how this is done. I'd rather you did it (: |
| 03:04.02 | bob2 | smgil: yes. |
| 03:04.02 | abrotman | !xfs |
| 03:04.03 | dpkg | methinks xfs is the filesystem developed by SGI for high-performance journalling and large disk support. see http://linux-xfs.sgi.com/projects/xfs/ or http://www.lwfug.org/debian/ for xfs deb tools and deb kernels, or far better and more mature than reiserfs, but not as mature (in linux) as ext3. check out http://people.debian.org/~blade/XFS-Install/ if you want to install woody with XFS support, or more ISOs are at http://non-gnu.uvt.nl/pub/debian-xfs/ |
| 03:04.07 | abrotman | oh jeez |
| 03:04.18 | abrotman | ignore that |
| 03:04.23 | IRCDaddy | Well I'm getting a litte tiired of install and installing and installing. Don't you think it's wise to ask for councel? |
| 03:04.35 | bob2 | IRCDaddy: why are you installing and installing? |
| 03:04.39 | nvz | IRCDaddy: well what is happening? |
| 03:04.42 | SaratogaCx | How do I poll a device to get its information. I've got an intel extream 2 graphics chip but I'm trying to learn what driver I need to get for it. |
| 03:04.58 | pipeline | You shouldn't need to "get" a driver. |
| 03:05.01 | abrotman | doleyb: tell them you're doing the 386 install |
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| 03:05.32 | doleyb | abrotman: Um, there's nobody in #debian-amd64 to talk to. |
| 03:05.34 | smgil | what FS you recomend me for a server ? |
| 03:05.42 | bob2 | smgil: ext3. |
| 03:05.42 | abrotman | doleyb: i meant -boot |
| 03:05.46 | doleyb | oh |
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| 03:06.42 | smgil | and about performance, is there a way to tunning ext, where I can find something about ? |
| 03:06.49 | doleyb | abrotman: but I don't want the 386 install. I could just copy knoppix onto the HD, put unstable into sources.list, and be done with it. |
| 03:06.51 | SaratogaCx | my distro has a driver that works up to 1024 but I would like to use the card for a better res. I'm looking to see if I can find out some more information on my card within linux to load the proper module into X. I don't have the manual for my board (the mb was given to me) so I'm not totally in the clear of the setup its using. |
| 03:07.02 | abrotman | doleyb: i thought that's what you were trying to do |
| 03:07.08 | IRCDaddy | Wait a minute. Isn't this the place to ask for experienced answers. I know one learns by doing but are newbie question banned here? Why? I'm not making this stuff up. I support debian and would like use it. |
| 03:07.09 | bob2 | SaratogaCx: which distro is this? |
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| 03:07.19 | bob2 | IRCDaddy: stop being a dick. |
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| 03:07.24 | SaratogaCx | Knoppix, installed to HD (so a bastardized version of debian) |
| 03:07.33 | nvz | haha |
| 03:07.38 | doleyb | abrotman: no, I'm going to try the normal debian 386 installer _next_, just to compare. Although I'm confident it won't work. |
| 03:07.41 | abrotman | IRCDaddy: just install |
| 03:07.53 | bob2 | IRCDaddy: you can ask whatever you want |
| 03:08.00 | nvz | IRCDaddy: you need to ask real questions which I have not heard a single one yet |
| 03:08.16 | bob2 | IRCDaddy: but you're wasting everyone's time (especially yours, unless you're downloading debian right now and filling in time) by not just installing and using. |
| 03:08.17 | IRCDaddy | bob2 No, that doesn't sem to be the case. At all. |
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| 03:08.30 | bob2 | IRCDaddy: have you been +q'd yet? |
| 03:08.39 | bob2 | no, despite how annoying you're being. |
| 03:08.41 | peterS | bob2: like a week ago he was |
| 03:08.50 | bob2 | and he's evading that |
| 03:08.53 | peterS | bob2: but it was hostmask-based, and he's dynamic IP, so.. |
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| 03:08.58 | nvz | yeah I knew he's been in here for weeks |
| 03:09.06 | IRCDaddy | bob2 Well bob. you don't know the time and grief I've spend doing just that. |
| 03:09.10 | doleyb | abrotman: I see that knoppix kernel has SATA as Y, not M like debian, and I assume that makes it work. |
| 03:09.16 | bob2 | IRCDaddy: let me ask you this: why don't you just install Debian? |
| 03:09.31 | abrotman | IRCDaddy: then you're doing something wrong .. or are too .. stupid to do it right .. we've got kids age of 15 doing it right .. the second time |
| 03:09.41 | hacim | IRCDaddy: whats your question? |
| 03:09.45 | abrotman | doleyb: doubt it .. initrd does neat things |
| 03:09.45 | bob2 | abrotman: dude. |
| 03:09.47 | nvz | IRCDaddy: rwe are not greif councilors, we are debian users. You said earlier you installed many times, for the love of bob2 what the hell went wrong? |
| 03:09.52 | nvz | IRCDaddy: details please |
| 03:09.55 | abrotman | bob2: yes .. bad .. i know |
| 03:10.01 | bob2 | IRCDaddy: or have you reinstalled Debian itself over and over? |
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| 03:10.14 | ashish | hi all |
| 03:10.26 | abrotman | IRCDaddy: you can almost always fix debian without reinstalling .. if you're reinstalling all the time . you're doing too much work |
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| 03:10.46 | risky | how can someone that doesn't know what version of debian he has, figure out what version of debian he's using? |
| 03:10.53 | bob2 | risky: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 03:10.55 | abrotman | risky: cat |
| 03:10.57 | abrotman | never mind |
| 03:11.02 | bob2 | risky: and "dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n1" |
| 03:11.03 | Nyle | evenin bob2 |
| 03:11.04 | nvz | IRCDaddy: not only are you doing too much work, you are stressing everyone here out, because you wont just tell peole specifically what the problem is |
| 03:11.06 | bob2 | but those are only hints. |
| 03:11.08 | ashish | ps/2 mouse working very slowlely why? |
| 03:11.09 | Nyle | hows it hangin? |
| 03:11.18 | SaratogaCx | you could also use knoppix to get everything working and run knx2hd to get the install on your system. its a great way for people who havn't had much experience with linux to install the OS. |
| 03:11.20 | risky | isn't that the same for unstable, testing and stable? |
| 03:11.27 | bob2 | risky: yes |
| 03:11.28 | doleyb | abrotman: I can't think of other explanation knoppix works and debian fails. They're both 2.4.27 |
| 03:11.30 | abrotman | no knoppix |
| 03:11.30 | bob2 | risky: hence the dpkg thing |
| 03:11.33 | gsilva | help linux on ipaq... |
| 03:11.34 | nvz | notice the other people asking spefic questions and getting answers around you? |
| 03:11.36 | risky | I mean, I'm running unstable and it says 3.1 |
| 03:11.44 | risky | ok, thanks bob2 |
| 03:11.46 | abrotman | doleyb: did you try linux26 from sarge? |
| 03:11.47 | Nyle | ashish, you have the settings for the ps2 mouse bandwidth speed in the XF86Config file |
| 03:11.47 | bob2 | !+info libc6 sid |
| 03:11.50 | dpkg | libc6: (GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data), section base, is required. Version: 2.3.2.ds1-17 (sid), Packaged size: 4827 kB, Installed size: 15616 kB |
| 03:11.51 | bob2 | !+info libc6 sarge |
| 03:11.53 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 03:12.00 | IRCDaddy | bob2 because my next move it install Sarge from a new CD (i think) so based on my past installs it will take alot of time and effort. We can minimize that effort through wisdom and the big picture of what is best for what. After all thee are many choices to be made, right? Doing is great but do you learn everything the hard way. That is not a success path for debain (and I don't like it). |
| 03:12.07 | dpkg | libc6: (GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data), section base, is required. Version: 2.3.2.ds1-16 (sarge), Packaged size: 4803 kB, Installed size: 15592 kB |
| 03:12.22 | doleyb | abrotman: not yet, I will go reboot and try it. (I wish sid/amd64 came with 2.6) |
| 03:12.30 | abrotman | doleyb: it does |
| 03:12.37 | IRCDaddy | .....Since you asked |
| 03:12.42 | bob2 | risky: there's the versions of libc6 up there |
| 03:12.54 | doleyb | abrotman: Not the netinst isos I can find. |
| 03:12.57 | risky | yeap, thanks |
| 03:13.07 | nvz | IRCDaddy: so you are in the process of thinking about installing debian at this point? what kind of pc, what OS do you have now, what kind of stuff are we working with? |
| 03:13.11 | abrotman | doleyb: ask #debian-amd64 .. but i'm 99% sure it has linux26 |
| 03:13.13 | ashish | nyle : if the too much work is done at a time then the computer is hangin |
| 03:13.17 | bob2 | IRCDaddy: it is not possible to break a Debioan install by installing stuff from source, unless you do exceedingly stupid things |
| 03:13.22 | nvz | IRCDaddy: if you want specific info you have to ask specific questions |
| 03:13.25 | PBMonster189 | abrotman: i finally got the bios to recognize the hard drive, and now its giving me "invalid system disc" error message, which i assume means its not the windows system disc... |
| 03:13.32 | bob2 | IRCDaddy: those stupid things are easy to explain, and I'd be happy to do so for you |
| 03:13.44 | abrotman | PBMonster189: what is giving you that error? the bios? |
| 03:13.50 | bob2 | IRCDaddy: have you ever installed Debian Sarge before? |
| 03:14.24 | Nyle | ashish, ' Option "Resolution""256" ' put that in the Section "InputDevice" in your XF86Config |
| 03:14.37 | PBMonster189 | abrotman: yes, its right after the bios loads |
| 03:14.41 | gsilva | somebody already installed linux in ipaq |
| 03:14.54 | abrotman | PBMonster189: you sure you have the jumpers right for the master/slave/CS crap? |
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| 03:15.00 | nvz | gsilva: does anyone care yet? how about now? ;) |
| 03:15.04 | bob2 | gsilva: Debian doesn't run on ipaqs. |
| 03:15.17 | abrotman | it doesn't? |
| 03:15.27 | risky | !+info libc6 woody |
| 03:15.28 | abrotman | not that i really am upset ... |
| 03:15.30 | dpkg | libc6: (GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data), section base, is required. Version: 2.2.5-11.5 (woody), Packaged size: 3303 kB, Installed size: 12760 kB |
| 03:15.30 | ashish | in debian some new problem create , when plating games press f then session out why? |
| 03:15.30 | PBMonster189 | abrotman: yes, it was being used as a single hard drive with windows, i dont see why id need to change it... |
| 03:15.38 | bob2 | I'm almost certain it doesn't. |
| 03:15.39 | t-jack | Anyone ever had their monitor screen quiver? |
| 03:15.52 | abrotman | PBMonster189: well .. if the bios doesn't finish .. it's not a debian issue |
| 03:15.59 | gsilva | in ipaq 3650. |
| 03:15.59 | doleyb | familiar runs on ipaqs, it uses deb packages, but ipkg instead of dpkg |
| 03:15.59 | bob2 | t-jack: too high a refresh rate? |
| 03:16.00 | nvz | t-jack: yeap |
| 03:16.04 | bob2 | yeah |
| 03:16.04 | IRCDaddy | If i choose to install Sarge (I got the biz card snap) and bring it to the point of say, MEPIS (but better) then I darn sure want to know if I'm making the right choices, BECAUSE MEPIS/KNX takes 20 minutes and Sarge (comparable) take much much longer. |
| 03:16.09 | SaratogaCx | t-jack, quiver how? on the CRT's end or the card's end? |
| 03:16.11 | abrotman | PBMonster189: sounds like a jumper deal .. go into the bios .. see if it sees the drive correctly |
| 03:16.22 | PBMonster189 | it does |
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| 03:16.35 | bob2 | IRCDaddy: if you don't want to learn, don't use Debian |
| 03:16.43 | bob2 | IRCDaddy: installing Debian takes ~15 minutes for me |
| 03:16.43 | abrotman | PBMonster189: i've never seen that message on the bios |
| 03:16.47 | t-jack | SaratogaCx, Unkown. Assuming the CRT itself. |
| 03:16.52 | nvz | t-jack: if the yolk gets wet it'll do that, if there is EMI it'll do that, if there is a bad connection it'll do that.. heh I could go on an on ;) |
| 03:16.53 | abrotman | PBMonster189: what's the error again? |
| 03:16.54 | exobyte | if I only wanted to sent a few keystrokes via serial console to a computer, which pins would I need? |
| 03:16.56 | IRCDaddy | nvz, I here ya. Does the Sarge biz CD alow PPP conection? |
| 03:16.58 | bob2 | IRCDaddy: if you want "stick CD in, enter hostname, get gnome", use ubuntu |
| 03:16.59 | *** mode/#debian [+l 724] by debhelper |
| 03:17.00 | PBMonster189 | abrotman: ive got 4 other hard drives, somethigns going to work! |
| 03:17.09 | bob2 | IRCDaddy: I really think you would be much happier with it |
| 03:17.20 | nvz | IRCDaddy: ok thats good, so you want to do a netinstall with a PPP connection? like DSL? |
| 03:17.22 | FluffyArmada | Can someone in here do me a huge favor and run apt-get moo? I have no apt right now and i just cant resist trying it out XD Then could you paste the output to #flood? :p |
| 03:17.23 | piranha | Is there some grand locales overview document? I'm can't figure out how to enable thousands-grouping in locale-aware software. |
| 03:17.30 | abrotman | bob2: you're really impressed with ubuntu huh? |
| 03:17.40 | gsilva | nvz, I am with problem to configure network in the ipaq. |
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| 03:17.59 | bob2 | abrotman: very much so |
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| 03:18.05 | doleyb | FluffyArmada: sure |
| 03:18.05 | t-jack | nvz, So, *possibly* bad, but impossible to pin down? |
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| 03:18.14 | FluffyArmada | Thanks abunch deleyb :D |
| 03:18.14 | _KonvIRC | can some one help me ? |
| 03:18.21 | nvz | gsilva: your english must not be good. I was inicating that I did not care to hear about the ipaq |
| 03:18.25 | IRCDaddy | bob2 Is ubunti "pure" debian? Won't there be trouble? |
| 03:18.32 | ashish | system boot then message in screen system halted ? |
| 03:18.33 | abrotman | oh god |
| 03:18.34 | bob2 | IRCDaddy: no, use ubuntu *instead* of Debian |
| 03:18.40 | abrotman | PBMonster189: what's the error again? |
| 03:18.42 | bob2 | IRCDaddy: and it's ubuntu, not ubunti |
| 03:18.48 | nvz | t-jack: my Multisync 6fg did the shakes since I got it. thats why they threw it out. |
| 03:18.51 | _KonvIRC | is unbuntu debian ? |
| 03:18.52 | gsilva | nvz, I m speak portuguese |
| 03:18.53 | bob2 | _KonvIRC: /msg dpkg ask |
| 03:18.59 | bob2 | _KonvIRC: no, it's ubuntu |
| 03:19.04 | SaratogaCx | t-jack, take your computer into another room (living room or kitchen) and try there. if its still shacking then you may have some larger issues, if it doesn't then you should look into re-arranging your computer's enviroment. |
| 03:19.07 | _KonvIRC | isnt it the same ? |
| 03:19.09 | nvz | gsilva: there is a debian channel where everyone speaks portuguese |
| 03:19.09 | FluffyArmada | doleyb : LMAO thanks thats funny, I knew apt had super cow powers but I have never before witnessed them ;) |
| 03:19.15 | manzar | jesus :) what is thie apt-get moo has to do with debian? :) |
| 03:19.22 | nvz | !portuguese |
| 03:19.23 | dpkg | hmm... portuguese is the most beautiful idiom of the world, or #debian-br, or por favor use #debian-br para ajuda em portugues. |
| 03:19.25 | bob2 | _KonvIRC: no, one is called "ubuntu", one is called "debian". |
| 03:19.35 | hanasaki | can udf work with ide adn not idescsi |
| 03:19.38 | hanasaki | ? |
| 03:19.40 | nvz | gsilva: #debian-br, seems to be the portugues room |
| 03:19.41 | IRCDaddy | nvz Is a PPP connection via the biz card (Sarge sanpshot) best for my dial up situation? |
| 03:19.44 | bob2 | hanasaki: yes. |
| 03:19.47 | nvz | s/room/channel/ |
| 03:19.47 | t-jack | SaratogaCx, Overheating? |
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| 03:19.52 | abrotman | bob2: i see the problem .. same number of chars |
| 03:19.54 | gsilva | nvz, Do you speak spanish? |
| 03:19.56 | FluffyArmada | bye |
| 03:20.00 | nvz | IRCDaddy: I am still trying to figure out what you are doing. |
| 03:20.08 | sussudio | nvz: trolling |
| 03:20.12 | SaratogaCx | not really overheating, but EMI (electro magnatic interferience) |
| 03:20.15 | ashish | what is novel networking |
| 03:20.20 | _KonvIRC | can some one help me ? |
| 03:20.22 | nvz | sussudio: ok? |
| 03:20.27 | abrotman | ashish: novell? |
| 03:20.27 | hanasaki | bob2: i have the udf built into the kernel but am getting this error |
| 03:20.27 | IRCDaddy | nvz, I light of the fact I'd have to do a 100M or so dial up download of the net installl CD? |
| 03:20.29 | hanasaki | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:20.29 | hanasaki | ioctl: Inappropriate ioctl for device |
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| 03:20.34 | bob2 | _KonvIRC: you haven't asked a question yet |
| 03:20.35 | SaratogaCx | things like speakers or large phones may cause this. |
| 03:20.38 | PBMonster189 | ABROTMAn: i tried a new hard drive turned it on and windows loaded... |
| 03:20.45 | _KonvIRC | the i got a power failure and now grub takes a long time to start ! |
| 03:20.48 | abrotman | PBMonster189: well that's good |
| 03:20.54 | abrotman | PBMonster189: why didn't it boot your CD? |
| 03:20.54 | PBMonster189 | abrotman: so i guess format it and restart? |
| 03:20.55 | bob2 | hanasaki: um, that's not using UDF, that's trying to packet-write to a hard drive |
| 03:21.02 | hanasaki | ah |
| 03:21.04 | hanasaki | hmmm |
| 03:21.06 | abrotman | PBMonster189: set the bios to boot the CD .. no need to format |
| 03:21.06 | hanasaki | back to man pages |
| 03:21.07 | hanasaki | thanks |
| 03:21.07 | PBMonster189 | abrotMan: thought the drive was empty |
| 03:21.12 | bob2 | hanasaki: you can make a udf image on a disk if you want |
| 03:21.17 | IRCDaddy | Do you even recomend install over dial-up? |
| 03:21.17 | gsilva | nvz, tanks... |
| 03:21.24 | nvz | oh, now I see, he was answering my question |
| 03:21.28 | bob2 | IRCDaddy: shipit.ubuntu.com |
| 03:21.32 | _KonvIRC | what can i do about it ? |
| 03:21.34 | ashish | abroman : hi , novel is netwoking which is difrent to the lan or eth.. networking |
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| 03:21.35 | hanasaki | i wish to mount a cdrw and write in realtime via udf |
| 03:21.53 | nvz | IRCDaddy: so you have dialup, and you want to try to install debian via a PPP dialup connection then? |
| 03:21.55 | bob2 | hanasaki: run pktsetup on the cd drive |
| 03:22.05 | _KonvIRC | should i reinstall grub ? |
| 03:22.14 | nvz | IRCDaddy: have you tried installing debian before or already have any debian cds? |
| 03:22.16 | hanasaki | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:22.16 | hanasaki | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:22.28 | bob2 | hanasaki: oh |
| 03:22.47 | _KonvIRC | ive asked the question can you anser now ? |
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| 03:23.23 | nvz | IRCDaddy: I cannot recommend you do something without you telling me what you are trying to do. |
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| 03:23.51 | ashish | hindi font install how's it possible? |
| 03:24.04 | nvz | IRCDaddy: I've heard you rant that you installed doesns of times, and that you are trying to d/l sarge, and none of it makes sense to me really. everytime I think I know what you are talking about you start talking about something else |
| 03:24.14 | abrotman | ashish: novell is a company .. they have novell networking |
| 03:24.15 | IRCDaddy | nvz, Yes thank you. I have 3.0r1 binaries but last time I INSTALLED woody disk one (bf2.4 comand) had errors. |
| 03:24.16 | abrotman | !novell |
| 03:24.16 | dpkg | from memory, novell is a company best known for its NetWare platform. They have now purchased SuSE and Ximian and have big plans for Linux on the desktop and corporate environments. |
| 03:24.21 | _KonvIRC | the i got a power failure and now grub takes a long time to start ! should i reinstal grub ? |
| 03:24.24 | abrotman | !netware |
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| 03:24.35 | nvz | IRCDaddy: ok well if you already have woody, what is the problem? |
| 03:24.36 | bob2 | IRCDaddy: what errors? which mailing list did you ask for help on? did you try other kernels? |
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| 03:24.43 | bob2 | IRCDaddy: does linux support your IDE controller? did you check? |
| 03:24.49 | hanasaki | bob2: other ideas? |
| 03:24.56 | hanasaki | Starting udftools packet writing: /dev/pktcdvd/0=/dev/hdcFATAL: Module pktcdvd not found. |
| 03:24.56 | hanasaki | Can't find pktcdvd character device |
| 03:25.01 | ashish | abrotman, are you sure novel is a company |
| 03:25.03 | hanasaki | the module is in the kernel static |
| 03:25.09 | bob2 | hanasaki: dunno, never used packet-writing |
| 03:25.13 | hanasaki | thanks |
| 03:25.22 | SaratogaCx | KonvIRC, try installing grub to a floppy and booting off that. see if you get the same result, if its quicker then just DD the floppy to your HD |
| 03:25.23 | abrotman | ashish: it's NOVELL .. two L's |
| 03:25.26 | bob2 | hanasaki: "mt rainier" is what you'd want to google for, I suspect |
| 03:25.38 | IRCDaddy | nvz, yes but if i vary from a specific Q then you all jump on me about what I'm tring to accomplish. Do you really want to know? |
| 03:25.49 | _KonvIRC | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:25.52 | t-jack | Bah. IIt only affects on virtual desktop. |
| 03:25.59 | _KonvIRC | :-) |
| 03:26.10 | bob2 | IRCDaddy: see, and when you do get offers of help, you ignore them |
| 03:26.10 | nvz | IRCDaddy: a specific question is like telling us exactly what error woody gives you so we can help you fix it. |
| 03:26.15 | bob2 | IRCDaddy: this is why people assume you're trolling |
| 03:26.17 | hanasaki | bob thanks i will google |
| 03:26.21 | _KonvIRC | the i got a power failure and now grub takes a long time to start ! should i reinstal grub ? |
| 03:26.34 | bob2 | _KonvIRC: why don't you just try it? |
| 03:26.36 | abrotman | repeat one more time! |
| 03:26.37 | ashish | abeyance, thanks , because this q put my friend , he intrested to knowingn novel, |
| 03:26.48 | nvz | IRCDaddy: not asking if you should randomly go download a sarge netinstall without telling me what kind of hardware you have or how you plan to netinstall for all I know it may not even work with what you have. |
| 03:26.52 | ashish | abrotman, , thanks , because this q put my friend , he intrested to knowingn novel, |
| 03:27.02 | IRCDaddy | Well first is the 3.0r1 going to get me to Sarge faster than my Sarge snap Biz card? Second, If it;s best can i use disk two?(of 3) |
| 03:27.03 | abrotman | NOVELL |
| 03:27.04 | abrotman | NOVELL |
| 03:27.06 | t-jack | Bah. It only affects oen virtual desktop. |
| 03:27.21 | bob2 | IRCDaddy: 3.0r1 is woody, but it's simple to upgrade to sarge. |
| 03:27.23 | t-jack | gah.... s/oen/one |
| 03:27.26 | abrotman | nooone needs to use novell networking anymore |
| 03:27.34 | bob2 | IRCDaddy: "If it;s best can i use disk two?" makes no sense. |
| 03:27.35 | SaratogaCx | t-jack, the screen quiver only effects one v-Desktop? |
| 03:27.46 | bob2 | IRCDaddy: since I assume you read the install guide and noticed that cd1 had all available kernels on it. |
| 03:28.10 | _KonvIRC | the i got a power failure and now grub takes a long time to start ! should i reinstal grub ? can some one help ?!!!! |
| 03:28.14 | t-jack | abrotman, Did you understand the first time? |
| 03:28.21 | t-jack | SaratogaCx, Yes. |
| 03:28.27 | bob2 | _KonvIRC: 13:26 < bob2> _KonvIRC: why don't you just try it? |
| 03:28.27 | abrotman | t-jack: huh? |
| 03:28.44 | SaratogaCx | t-jack try changing the desktop on that v-desktop to all black, does the same thing happen? |
| 03:28.45 | _KonvIRC | im afraid ! :-S |
| 03:28.50 | Nyle | how secure is debian sarge? compared to openbsd? |
| 03:29.01 | IRCDaddy | I'm NOT stinkin trolling for %^$&^ *%^ . Would you shut the hell up about trolloing and try to help. Stop putting me down becuse of things I don't know. If I knew I wounlldn't stinking ask! |
| 03:29.02 | SaratogaCx | it could be your screen doesn't like the color mixtures that that desktop is using (assuming that they're all different) |
| 03:29.17 | bob2 | IRCDaddy: and stop acting like a complete moron |
| 03:29.25 | streuner__ | t-jack: hi |
| 03:29.26 | abrotman | bob2: dude. :) |
| 03:29.27 | bob2 | IRCDaddy: I've offered you lots of help, and answered all your questions |
| 03:29.27 | SaratogaCx | _KonvIRC try installing it to a floppy, no risk |
| 03:29.31 | hacim | how do you list the atime of a file? |
| 03:29.37 | bob2 | IRCDaddy: yet you continue to ask them again, and ignore my answers |
| 03:29.40 | hacim | I want to list the atime,ctime and mtime |
| 03:29.45 | abrotman | hacim: man ls ? |
| 03:29.58 | hacim | abrotman: ls shows ctime with -c, but I see nothing about atime |
| 03:30.00 | ashish | SaratogaCx, intresting q the screen quiver are all desktop but you see one only , if you tuch any device like mouse or keyboard then the screen sever end |
| 03:30.04 | tcsetattr | ls -lu is for atime |
| 03:30.06 | abrotman | hacim: find ? |
| 03:30.09 | t-jack | SaratogaCx, All vdesks are the same. |
| 03:30.10 | bob2 | hacim: "stat file". |
| 03:30.13 | risky | hey guys, a totally debian unrelated question... I was called a mongrel today, is that in any way less than derogatory? I realize this isn't the proper place to ask, but I don't really join many other english speaking channels |
| 03:30.18 | hacim | bob2: great thanks |
| 03:30.18 | bob2 | it's a built-in for zsh, external command for others. |
| 03:30.23 | IRCDaddy | i did read the FM and excuse me if i don't have a photgraphic memory. OK. |
| 03:30.35 | bob2 | IRCDaddy: stop playing the victim |
| 03:30.46 | Nyle | risky, what context was that term used in? |
| 03:30.52 | gravity | risky: It can be non-derogatory, depending on the context and tone |
| 03:30.55 | SaratogaCx | thanks for the clearificatoin ashish, t-jack, is your power cord for your moniter properly grounded? |
| 03:30.55 | streuner | t-jack: did you get this bitch to work? |
| 03:30.55 | initech | risky: it would usually be derogatory |
| 03:30.56 | bob2 | IRCDaddy: if you've forgotten, go check it again |
| 03:31.01 | risky | ah, also asking since I'm not a native english speaker, and not sure what it could've meant |
| 03:31.11 | Nyle | I call my kniece a little mongrel |
| 03:31.14 | gravity | risky: A lot like "mutt" |
| 03:31.16 | Nyle | its pretty cool, we laugh after that |
| 03:31.18 | Nyle | hehe |
| 03:31.18 | _KonvIRC | is unbutu the test bed for the new debian release ? |
| 03:31.22 | Nyle | -k |
| 03:31.24 | peterS | _KonvIRC: no |
| 03:31.25 | bob2 | _KonvIRC: no |
| 03:31.26 | gravity | risky: Like, not pure blood dog |
| 03:31.26 | initech | risky: it could be as innocuous as "mutt" |
| 03:31.30 | bob2 | _ubuntu is entirely seperate |
| 03:31.33 | t-jack | streuner, Hi. The soundcard? |
| 03:31.37 | abrotman | risky: it is derogatory |
| 03:31.38 | risky | well, was in an english speaking forum and me and a few others were talkign spanish |
| 03:31.40 | IRCDaddy | OK bob2 is the troll. facts are facts. ANyway. I'm done with that game. |
| 03:31.42 | abrotman | so is my spelling |
| 03:31.44 | SaratogaCx | t-jack, it looks to me like the moniter's using your to ground itself. |
| 03:31.47 | streuner | t-jack: AudigyLS, yeah :-) |
| 03:31.49 | IRCDaddy | nvz, Ar you really trying to help? |
| 03:31.51 | bob2 | IRCDaddy: good god. |
| 03:31.54 | risky | heh, well, thanks |
| 03:32.01 | streuner | t-jack: still have nightmares ;-) |
| 03:32.07 | abrotman | IRCDaddy: stop provoking people . if they don't help . use /ignore |
| 03:32.08 | _KonvIRC | when is the new debian coming out any ways ? |
| 03:32.12 | peterS | IRCDaddy: you seem to be attempting to alienate the people who give the most help around here. not a very good long-term strategy |
| 03:32.14 | abrotman | !sarge stable |
| 03:32.14 | dpkg | Sarge will be stable when it's ready. There is still no final date, but there is^H^Hwas a tentative release date of 2004/09/15. See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2004/08/msg00001.html, or http://www.debianplanet.org/node.php?id=1143, or http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2004/09/msg00005.html |
| 03:32.15 | t-jack | SaratogaCx, Using my... |
| 03:32.27 | smgil | have kernel 2.6 with NSA kernel patch enough stability to run it in servers ? |
| 03:32.33 | bob2 | _KonvIRC: when it's ready |
| 03:32.38 | bob2 | _KonvIRC: there is no set release date |
| 03:32.43 | nvz | IRCDaddy: I was if I could understand you, but right now I am going to McDonalds before they close |
| 03:32.51 | abrotman | nvz: munchies? |
| 03:32.52 | _KonvIRC | nothing is ever ready |
| 03:32.59 | ashish | SaratogaCx, i wanted hindi font but it is not possible to install apt-get , how it installed? |
| 03:33.00 | hacim | bob2: if I did a find /etc | xargs stat wouldn't the find change the atime before the xargs stat ran? |
| 03:33.15 | bob2 | hacim: I don't know |
| 03:33.17 | bob2 | try it :) |
| 03:33.31 | hacim | bob2: doesn't look like it |
| 03:33.41 | nvz | abrotman: my cousin's buyin I'm just flyin |
| 03:33.44 | IRCDaddy | nvz Well do I know you that well? :) I have an AMD XP2000 system and knoppix works so why shouldn't Sarge? |
| 03:33.49 | abrotman | nvz: heh |
| 03:33.57 | tcsetattr | hacim, it depends on what else you do with the find. atime is only for when you read the _contents_ of the file. If you don't do that, atime isn't updated. |
| 03:34.01 | SaratogaCx | ashish, I'm not very good with fonts to be honest, I don't think I'll be ahy help with that. |
| 03:34.05 | abrotman | IRCDaddy: because you haven't tried it yet? |
| 03:34.07 | t-jack | streuner, All I can say is, if you can compile a bootable kernel, supporting this soundcard is simple. |
| 03:34.14 | Nyle | is there any kind of virus/spyware/adware or any form of malware that exists for a general *nix os? |
| 03:34.17 | t-jack | SaratogaCx, Using my... what? |
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| 03:34.39 | Nyle | !tell Nyle security |
| 03:34.41 | hacim | tcsetattr: excellent |
| 03:34.42 | ashish | SaratogaCx, thanks for your reply |
| 03:34.45 | abrotman | simonrvn: not me!!?!?!?! |
| 03:34.48 | simonrvn | aaah, peace |
| 03:34.57 | Nyle | dpkg help |
| 03:35.01 | IRCDaddy | abrotman, Are you aware that is a trolling statment. |
| 03:35.05 | nvz | IRCDaddy: it should, but why d/l sarge if you got woody already and d/l sarge will take a long time, why cant you just say what goes wrong with woody, or install sarge if you must, then come back when you need help |
| 03:35.10 | streuner | t-jack: so the official kernel didn't work? |
| 03:35.14 | Nyle | dpkg system security |
| 03:35.14 | dpkg | i don't know, Nyle |
| 03:35.16 | simonrvn | abrotman: no. you're not an idiot with an attitude problem |
| 03:35.16 | bob2 | Nyle: if you stay up to date with security patches and don't run software from ouyside debian, you should be fine. |
| 03:35.17 | abrotman | IRCDaddy: no .. it's not .. from what i recall .. you haven't tried sarge yet |
| 03:35.18 | dondelelcaro | Nyle: not really. There are root kits and the ilk... |
| 03:35.22 | SaratogaCx | oh, your moniter should be grounded through its own ground plug (in the US its the round one in the bottom center). What I think its doing is sening a ground through the computer->mouse/kb->you and thats why it stops shaking. |
| 03:35.30 | nvz | I am beginning to think IRCDaddy is an eliza bot |
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| 03:35.34 | abrotman | simonrvn: you may wish to reconsider the attitude part of that :) |
| 03:35.55 | abrotman | IRCDaddy: if i'm wrong .. correct me .. but if not .. don't call me troll |
| 03:36.06 | abrotman | actually .. IRCDaddy .. either way .. don't call me troll |
| 03:36.08 | IRCDaddy | Are you saying I will not have to download darn near everthing if I start with 3.0r1 as opposed to Sarge biz card? |
| 03:36.09 | initech | M-x psychoanaylize IRCDaddy |
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| 03:36.15 | simonrvn | abrotman: well, you,re not a dumbass anyway |
| 03:36.16 | conleymt | anyone had any trouble with onboard sound and 2.6 |
| 03:36.23 | ashish | abrotman, mouse can't work properly , mouse is ps/2 why? |
| 03:36.23 | abrotman | simonrvn: heh |
| 03:36.24 | exobyte | what program lets me do terminal consoles? I need to disable a few things in it too. My "cable" is 3 wires |
| 03:36.31 | IRCDaddy | abrotman, I didn't |
| 03:36.32 | t-jack | streuner, You're supposed to be able to install the 2.6.8 kernel-image, them the alsa-modules 1.0.6* pkg, right? |
| 03:36.35 | abrotman | !tell IRCDaddy about woody->sarge |
| 03:36.36 | peterS | exobyte: minicom is the popular one |
| 03:36.37 | abrotman | IRCDaddy: you did |
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| 03:36.40 | dondelelcaro | conleymt: probably, but that doesn't mean you should have problems. |
| 03:36.41 | exobyte | peterS: thx |
| 03:36.43 | peterS | exobyte: you mean over serial port? |
| 03:36.46 | abrotman | ashish: dunno .. |
| 03:36.48 | conleymt | haha good answer |
| 03:36.51 | exobyte | peterS: yeah |
| 03:36.53 | peterS | exobyte: minicom is used for serial consoles and modems |
| 03:36.54 | abrotman | not ennough info |
| 03:36.58 | abrotman | fuck .. i can't even type anymore |
| 03:36.59 | *** mode/#debian [+l 718] by debhelper |
| 03:37.05 | t-jack | ashish, Repeat that you said earlier re: my monitor? |
| 03:37.06 | abrotman | !nei |
| 03:37.12 | IRCDaddy | abrotman, Are you three? |
| 03:37.15 | conleymt | when i compiled i included the ALSA module and the appropriate drivers |
| 03:37.22 | *** part/#debian doleyb (~pwickis@209-150-58-13.c3-0.wob-ubr2.sbo-wob.ma.cable.rcn.com) |
| 03:37.23 | Nyle | sweet, so when my folks ask me why there is a linux syste, already setup perfectly with display, its online, all the programs work, printer/scanner work, word processing, and the like, I can proudly proclaim that there are no virii/malware that exist for linux, except for hackers bent upon trying to hack our system, we should be fine and stuff. ? |
| 03:37.24 | streuner | t-jack: no idea, i ask you |
| 03:37.26 | dondelelcaro | !nei is <reply> Yes, $nick, you are a moron who can't spell ne1 |
| 03:37.26 | dpkg | okay, dondelelcaro |
| 03:37.28 | abrotman | IRCDaddy: now you are trolling |
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| 03:37.31 | conleymt | however in gnome i get nothing |
| 03:37.37 | peterS | abrotman: *now*? |
| 03:37.40 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: i was doing to make it the opposite of TMI |
| 03:37.40 | Nyle | and we should switch to linux |
| 03:37.47 | abrotman | peterS: well . .he's trolling me |
| 03:37.53 | abrotman | can't we just +q him and be done with it? |
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| 03:38.03 | ashish | abrotman, you can do the python program and other work is done at a time , python is a programing lenguage |
| 03:38.14 | abrotman | ashish: and? |
| 03:38.15 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: ah... go ahead and change it... probably more useful anyway. |
| 03:38.27 | t-jack | streuner, No, it failed. I am very curious why it seems pkg'd to 2.4.* kernel... |
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| 03:38.37 | IRCDaddy | abrotman, i refuse to get into your did, didn't did didn't childish bait. i suggest you simply read what i said or you are a troll. |
| 03:38.53 | abrotman | wtf are you babbling about |
| 03:38.53 | streuner | t-jack: ok, just file a bugreport then. |
| 03:38.57 | dondelelcaro | !no, nei is <reply> Not Enough Information. If you don't give us enough information to even begin to see what your problem is, there's no way we will be able to help you at all. |
| 03:39.08 | doleyb | IRCDaddy: Can you name a US presidential candidate? |
| 03:39.24 | PBMonster189 | abrotman: should scanning the disc before starting the partitioner take a very long time? |
