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| 00:00.42 | dondelelcaro | michael12345: you could alternatively use just a harddrive and only mount readonly and set the FIX=yes options so fsck will automatically fix any problems (not that there should ever be any) as well. |
| 00:01.15 | bsphere | is there anything special that is needed to be configured in GRUB inorder to boot from a NTFS filesystem? when I try to boot windblows from a NFTS partition it says filesystem type unknown and just hangs |
| 00:01.47 | michael12345 | dondelelcaro FIX=yes is that in fstab |
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| 00:02.47 | draconis | bsphere: is that after staring grub and trying to run windows or is it not a good start of grub |
| 00:03.20 | bsphere | grub is running, linux is booting fine |
| 00:03.23 | t-jack | Why would all kernel compile cmds in a string fail for broken code, but each in turn succeed? |
| 00:03.34 | user01 | ok i try running a script to install and it says "Compiler is not available to compile modules, aborting..." |
| 00:03.36 | bsphere | when choosing windows it says something about unknown filesystem type and just hangs |
| 00:03.46 | bsphere | (this is a newly installed computer) |
| 00:03.54 | draconis | what is your config for windows in meny.lst? |
| 00:04.01 | draconis | menu.lst? |
| 00:04.12 | user01 | are there things i should check? |
| 00:04.22 | draconis | bsphere past it in #flood |
| 00:04.23 | bsphere | title bla bla, root (hd0,0), savedefault, makeactive, chainloader +1 |
| 00:04.29 | Vyrus001 | anybody out there have an ftp client that let's me use console but also use a proxy ? |
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| 00:04.55 | bsphere | debian installer put those settings |
| 00:05.06 | Piru | huh, ftp over proxy? that's new to me |
| 00:05.09 | initech | Vyrus001: most console ftpcilent honor the ftp_proxy variable |
| 00:05.28 | Piru | I guess that rules out passive ftp |
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| 00:05.55 | initech | Piru: why use passive ftp if you have a proxy? |
| 00:06.16 | bsphere | draconis: any ideas whats wrong ? |
| 00:06.27 | draconis | I cant see mine correct im in windows right now fecking windows that cant read unix eof marks |
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| 00:06.42 | Piru | hmm or was it the other way around. anyway just wondering how it could connect back if the connection seems to come from the proxy |
| 00:06.44 | xio04 | i was hoping someone could enlighten me, i have been wondering why under and identical setup one laptop will automaticaly detect the pcmcia card is inserted when i do cardctl ident, but on a different laptop (possibly a different pcmcia chipset or somthing) it will not detect it automaticaly with cardctrl ident unless i have inserted it before booting the laptop |
| 00:06.45 | drkvg | I'm looking for an easy-to-use network designing program - such as tkined (http://www.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de/projects/nm/scotty/tkined.html) which does not seem to be packaged any longer - any pointer/tip/whatever? |
| 00:06.56 | UdontKnow | hello people |
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| 00:07.04 | bsphere | draconis: ever had a problem like this ? |
| 00:07.12 | UdontKnow | uh, I need to create a debian chroot on a non-debian system |
| 00:07.17 | initech | Piru: depend son the proxy i guess, hmm, let's see |
| 00:07.30 | UdontKnow | where would I go about finding the base ? |
| 00:08.36 | nvz | gashed my knuckle with some sharp glass like dumb ass seems to be alright, just hard to get it to close up on my knuckle |
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| 00:08.59 | initech | Piru: no actually I don't think there's any way to use PORT with an ftp proxy |
| 00:09.31 | user01 | do i need to edit the install.sh if it says that the complier isn |
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| 00:09.40 | user01 | t available to install? |
| 00:09.44 | si | need some help |
| 00:09.54 | nvz | si: then ask a question |
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| 00:10.06 | Piru | initech, right |
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| 00:10.49 | nvz | si: this is like group technical support, you dont call in and wait on hold and get assigned a represenative, you just ask, and people answer |
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| 00:10.59 | ajavid | dude gnome is fucked up |
| 00:11.00 | thoreauputic_ | user01: isn't it more likely the installer isn't available, since that's what it says? |
| 00:11.01 | ajavid | period |
| 00:11.02 | ajavid | . |
| 00:11.34 | dipnlik | ajavid: use something else. :p |
| 00:11.35 | thoreauputic_ | user01: as in you have a missing compiler or related bits |
| 00:11.55 | paxetil | i've "title windows / root hd(0,1) / boot" my windows partition is in /dev/hda1, why doesn't boot ? it reports "error 8: kernel must be loaded before booting" |
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| 00:12.05 | Vyrus001 | initech, i dont know any of them... |
| 00:12.07 | user01 | thoreauputic_: really? it says Compiler is not available to compile modules, aborting... |
| 00:12.08 | Vyrus001 | just ftp :P |
| 00:12.31 | user01 | thoreauputic_ : i thought it just meant that it couldnt find the complier |
| 00:12.40 | user01 | compiler |
| 00:12.48 | thoreauputic_ | user01: do you have build-essential ? |
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| 00:12.52 | initech | Vyrus001: ncftp, will let you use a proxy and specify passive mode always |
| 00:13.02 | nvz | paxetil: is that grubbish? |
| 00:13.23 | thoreauputic_ | user01: if not, then apt-get install build-essential |
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| 00:13.34 | paxetil | nvz, what ? |
| 00:13.50 | nvz | paxetil: you know was that grub terminology you were using |
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| 00:14.04 | paxetil | no |
| 00:14.05 | si | Hi don't forget i'm turkish and i use unix from 10 years :) i'm little drunk ok please let me alone |
| 00:14.14 | user01 | thoreauputic_ : nope it wasn't installed |
| 00:14.17 | si | ::))) |
| 00:14.29 | user01 | thoreauputic_ : it is installing now |
| 00:14.38 | nvz | si: heh, is that an excuse for something? you said you needed help, you have to ask. |
| 00:14.54 | si | i'm drunk sorry |
| 00:14.57 | si | :) |
| 00:15.15 | user01 | thoreauputic_ : it is hard when the install doesnt say you need that... |
| 00:15.38 | paxetil | nvz, so... |
| 00:15.44 | xio04 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:15.49 | xio04 | hehe |
| 00:16.02 | nvz | paxetil: so? |
| 00:16.19 | thoreauputic_ | user01: when you installed debian, did you choose development stuff? |
| 00:17.01 | nvz | paxetil: I dont recognise anything in your question, thought you were talking about grub, but I guess not, so if you are looking for help from me on that, I havent a clue whats going on |
| 00:17.22 | user01 | thoreauputic_ : probably not...i setup up the server and desktop stuff and installed the individual languages i knew |
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| 00:18.09 | eldacan | cafuego: thank you! I could finally make those two laptop communicate :) |
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| 00:19.40 | user01 | thoreauputic_ : i installed it and now there is an error that The DRI drivers can not be installed without the latest kernel modules. |
| 00:20.12 | si | i have set up nx server at home it works fine but i will know how i can transfert under nx server connection ? |
| 00:20.33 | wfh | Can anyone tell me why my ssh sessions to an unstable box drop after 10 minutes of inactivity? |
| 00:20.53 | user01 | thoreauputic_ : would you like to see the log? |
| 00:21.08 | thoreauputic_ | user01: hmmm... not sure - could it be missing headers? |
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| 00:21.46 | thoreauputic_ | user01: I probably wouldn't be able too help - maybe someone with more experience |
| 00:21.47 | si | you can acces to my nx server ip: linuxtr.ath.cx login si pass 1288 for test |
| 00:22.11 | user01 | thoreauputic_ : ok well thanks for the help this far! |
| 00:22.13 | freakazoid | Anyone know why rescue CDs seem to get the wrong geometry for my drive (0/240/63) while I can boot from the drive just fine and the Sarge beta4 install CD gets the correct geometry? |
| 00:22.31 | freakazoid | This is happening on Knoppix, SystemRescueCD, and Timo's rescue CD |
| 00:22.32 | thoreauputic_ | user01: no worries - hope someone can help you |
| 00:23.16 | user01 | thoreauputic_ : make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.7-1-386/build: No such file or directory. Stop. |
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| 00:23.49 | nvz | freakazoid: thats way off topic, it seems you could find out easier by asking the people who make the stuff that doesnt work |
| 00:23.50 | EfaistOs | does someone know if there some specific permissions on the AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS directory and files there when you burn a video dvd ? |
| 00:24.05 | thoreauputic_ | user01: you have the modutils for 2.6 kernels? |
| 00:24.27 | user01 | thoreauputic_ : probably not...ur australian aren't u :)? |
| 00:24.31 | relaxed | freakazoid: I've had good results using this livecd http://www.lnx-bbc.org/ . On a minicd it's small enough for my wallet. |
| 00:24.52 | freakazoid | relaxed, nvz: I don't think it's a problem with the rescue CDs, as they've worked for me before |
| 00:24.56 | nvz | freakazoid: I would look in my BIOS for anything obvious, but like I said, the people in those live cd's respective channels would know more about why their cds do that |
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| 00:25.05 | thoreauputic_ | user01: yes |
| 00:25.18 | freakazoid | nvz: the kernel is not even reading the partition table |
| 00:25.23 | user01 | thoreauputic_ : actually i do have modutils |
| 00:25.26 | freakazoid | nvz: /proc/partitions is wrong |
| 00:25.35 | freakazoid | nvz: and no partitioning tools can open the drive |
| 00:25.36 | nvz | freakazoid: thats not the point the sarge cd works, we dont use any of that stuff, we use debian, thats why we are here. there are channels of people who DO use that stuff you can ask |
| 00:25.44 | user01 | thoreauputic_ : 2.4.26-1 |
| 00:25.50 | freakazoid | nvz: Timo's rescue CD is based on Debian |
| 00:25.54 | freakazoid | nvz: and it doesn't work |
| 00:25.56 | nvz | freakazoid: I could only make guesses at why it doesnt work. |
| 00:26.01 | nvz | freakazoid: based on is not debian |
| 00:26.03 | thoreauputic_ | user01: there's a specific package for 2.6 kernels - can't recall the name :/ |
| 00:26.05 | freakazoid | nvz: Guesses would help a LOT |
| 00:26.09 | nvz | freakazoid: we are debian users, we use debian |
| 00:26.14 | freakazoid | nvz: so do I |
| 00:26.18 | nvz | freakazoid: we personally had nothing to do with that cd |
| 00:26.37 | thoreauputic_ | user01: oh you have a 2.4 kernel - sorry |
| 00:26.59 | user01 | thoreauputic_ : no it is 2.6.7 |
| 00:27.14 | nvz | freakazoid: guesses would be off-topic, look around for something obvious, check the BIOS settings, and read dmesg output from different setups |
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| 00:27.27 | user01 | thoreauputic_ : i have module-init-tools installed if that is it |
| 00:27.41 | freakazoid | nvz: Ok, tell me how to successfully resize my Debian partition then |
| 00:27.49 | thoreauputic_ | user01: yeah that's the one I was thinking of |
| 00:27.51 | nvz | freakazoid: I am not trying to be a pain, its just those arent debian cds and you would be serving everyone here as well as yourself to ask the people that know about it thats all. |
| 00:27.55 | nvz | freakazoid: what FS? |
| 00:27.55 | freakazoid | nvz: It's reiserfs. |
| 00:28.12 | freakazoid | nvz: I need to move it because I shrunk the Windows partition that was in front of it |
| 00:28.40 | freakazoid | nvz: Unfortunately the parted that comes with debian-installer doesn't appear to support reiserfs |
| 00:29.01 | Scheme | Any MSN Messenger clients available that work in console? |
| 00:29.08 | dipnlik | Scheme: centericq |
| 00:29.18 | Guerin | Scheme: centericq, bitlbee |
| 00:29.21 | user01 | thoreauputic_ : i was in darwin and brisbane for awhile |
| 00:29.28 | Guerin | if bitlbee is still up |
| 00:29.38 | nvz | freakazoid: I dont mess with resizing partitions, and I dont even think you can resize journalized fs's |
| 00:29.48 | thoreauputic_ | user01: I'm south of Sydney |
| 00:29.54 | freakazoid | nvz: Strange, I've resized it before |
| 00:30.02 | freakazoid | nvz: Reiserfs can even be resized online. |
| 00:30.02 | nvz | freakazoid: if you are finding that you have bad estimates of partitions alot, I would recommend learning to use lvm |
| 00:30.22 | Scheme | wtf is bitlbee |
| 00:30.26 | freakazoid | nvz: I know how to use LVM. |
| 00:30.29 | user01 | thoreauputic_ : i couldn't find any australians that liked sydney when i was there so i never went to visit it :P |
| 00:30.51 | freakazoid | nvz: Normally, resizing partitions isn't an issue for me. I just boot from a CD that has a parted that supports reiserfs and resize it. |
| 00:30.54 | nvz | freakazoid: if you say it can be resized, then maybe look at reiserfs-tools or whatever its called |
| 00:30.59 | dondelelcaro | gatewayvn: oh, yeah, that's a pretty simple thing to fix |
| 00:31.01 | Guerin | only people from sydney actually like sydney |
| 00:31.06 | Guerin | and even plenty of them don't |
| 00:31.08 | thoreauputic_ | user01: heh- regional prejudices... ;) |
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| 00:31.21 | nvz | freakazoid: resizing partitions just isnt even comprehendable to me, its just not something I do. |
| 00:31.21 | freakazoid | nvz: Parted can move it. Parted is on the debian install CD. Unfortunately, the one there doesn't support reiserfs. |
| 00:31.31 | freakazoid | nvz: Ok, maybe someone else can help. |
| 00:31.49 | nvz | freakazoid: hopefully, sounds like you are in a tight spot for some space |
| 00:31.50 | thoreauputic_ | Guerin: Sydney is kind of like New York - you love it or hate it |
| 00:32.08 | freakazoid | nvz: Not tight, just need some breathing room to install vmware |
| 00:32.38 | freakazoid | nvz: It wouldn't be a problem at all if one of the three CDs that has been able to read my partition table before could read my partition table, which seems to have become hosed. |
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| 00:32.46 | thoreauputic_ | Guerin: I'm actually 80km south of Sydney anyway :) |
| 00:32.51 | nvz | freakazoid: heh, well vmware is very flexible. last I used it it could use a partition or a loopback from a image file. |
| 00:32.55 | freakazoid | nvz: Or it's a problem with the linux kernel itself |
| 00:33.15 | nvz | freakazoid: what size is the drive out of curiosity? |
| 00:33.16 | freakazoid | nvz: That's my intent. But to be storing partitions in files, I would like more space on my linux partition |
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