| 00:00.04 | sphenxes | newbie, I would like to watch my nestat over 8 hours and send the result to a file that I can latter read it. watch -n 300 netstat -tupon >> test . the problem I can not read the file |
| 00:00.08 | cray3 | module installed, ifup eth0 still bombs |
| 00:00.16 | cray3 | where do i configure what the eth0 is |
| 00:00.18 | prostat | I think I have misconfigured my X setup. I use xfce4. When I do a netstat I see X has an open port (6000) listening on the 0.0.0.0, and xfce4-session is also listening on 0.0.0.0 with a high random port. How do I rectify this? I have temporarily blocked the 2 ports with iptables but need better solution. |
| 00:00.39 | pingouin | cray3, /etc/network/interfaces |
| 00:01.00 | shai_ | tcsetattr, i'm just on my computer at home cabling to my isp... why is tcpdump showing me infinite arp requests if i'm not doin anythin (network wise)... apart from irc, i mean |
| 00:01.26 | tcsetattr | shai_, are you sure you're reading it correctly? are those arp requests being sent by you or received by you? |
| 00:01.42 | cray3 | i'm looking at the 'interfaces' but it's not showing anything useful |
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| 00:02.03 | cray3 | two entries: auto eth0 and iface eth0 inet dhcp |
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| 00:02.14 | initech | shai_: you have cable broadband? |
| 00:02.20 | pingouin | cray3, what do you do with /etc/network/interfaces ? |
| 00:02.29 | shai_ | tcsetattr, hmmm i guess mostly sent to me |
| 00:02.34 | cray3 | pingouin: i nano'd it to see what was in it |
| 00:02.53 | shai_ | initech, yeah.. just regular cable modem |
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| 00:03.20 | pingouin | cray3, perfect, it's in this file that you put you're network card config |
| 00:03.37 | initech | shai_: many CMTS' do that, because it is the way cisco, for some reason, handles it when the CMTS has many networks bound to one interface. it's nothng |
| 00:03.43 | pingouin | gateway, address, netmask etc... |
| 00:03.55 | initech | shai_: scarynetworkguy could probably answer better |
| 00:04.11 | cray3 | pingouin: ok, what should i put in |
| 00:04.14 | tcsetattr | shai_, they you're probably seeing the ARP activity of your neighbors on the ISP's network. If one of them is sending a lot of ARP requests, it's probably because he's worm-infested. |
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| 00:04.39 | pingouin | cray3, man interfaces, good start |
| 00:04.47 | initech | tcsetattr: it is most likely the CMTS (his default gateway) |
| 00:05.27 | shai_ | initech, i think you may be right |
| 00:05.37 | tcsetattr | anyway, don't be concerned about ARP requests that aren't yours. |
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| 00:05.47 | pingouin | cray3, a basic config should be ok, then you'll add stuff you disscover you need |
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| 00:06.04 | initech | shai_: i know i am, i worked for a cable isp that did exactly that |
| 00:06.16 | cray3 | well, see |
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| 00:06.17 | cray3 | the config is ok |
| 00:06.22 | shai_ | initech, what is the logic behind all the arp requests from them to me then? |
| 00:06.22 | cray3 | when i go ifup eth0 i get these lines: |
| 00:06.33 | cray3 | sit0: unknown hardware address type 776 |
| 00:06.41 | cray3 | eth0: error while getting inteface flags: no such device |
| 00:06.44 | initech | shai_: anyone on the system would get arp requests constantly from the gateway, for their network and others |
| 00:06.49 | cray3 | sit-: unkown hardware address type 776 |
| 00:06.57 | cray3 | bind socket to interface: no such device |
| 00:07.13 | cray3 | exiting |
| 00:07.15 | cray3 | failed to bring up eth0 |
| 00:07.19 | pingouin | wrong module ? |
| 00:07.25 | cray3 | module installed successfully |
| 00:07.28 | tcsetattr | ARP requests are broadcast, shai_. That's their nature. So are they TO you? not likely. They're TO the entire network. |
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| 00:07.36 | pingouin | should unload it and try another one |
| 00:07.37 | initech | shai_: you only see the requests, right? not the replies |
| 00:07.53 | tcsetattr | you send an ARP request if you don't know the proper destination MAC address for a packet, which means it pretty much has to go to everybody. |
| 00:08.05 | cray3 | ping: ok |
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| 00:08.19 | tcsetattr | use tcpdump -e and if the destination MAC address shows ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff then it's a broadcast |
| 00:08.26 | pingouin | cray3, try google/linux to seek the right one, should have one in the last kernel.. |
| 00:08.45 | pingouin | cray3, or open you're box and check what the chipset on the board is |
| 00:09.03 | shai_ | initech, yah it's only requests to me by my gateway |
| 00:09.06 | pingouin | cray3, integrated motherboard ? |
| 00:09.19 | pingouin | whith lan onboard ? |
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| 00:09.36 | cray3 | ping: yes |
| 00:09.40 | pingouin | eeww |
| 00:09.44 | cray3 | ping: an intel 815 based, 810 graphics, etc |
| 00:09.50 | cray3 | it's all intel though :) |
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| 00:09.57 | cray3 | should be the better of the integrated boards |
| 00:09.58 | pingouin | should be working |
| 00:10.00 | shai_ | tcsetattr, yah okay... we're just learning this stuff in skewl thanks for your help. |
| 00:10.02 | shai_ | tnx initech |
| 00:10.07 | initech | shai_: well i'm not sure really why they do that. it's probably something stupid, but they all do it. |
| 00:10.14 | cray3 | what module would an 810 nic take? it's not explicitly listed in the modconf |
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| 00:10.42 | pingouin | cray3, yeah should be working just have to discover which module..sorry man i still use my BX motherboard ;) |
| 00:11.04 | cray3 | lol, 440bx. thats a blast from the past |
| 00:11.11 | pingouin | thx :/ |
| 00:11.13 | pingouin | ;) |
| 00:11.33 | cray3 | can find nothing on the 'net about what module to use |
| 00:11.36 | initech | cray3: those were pretty good tho |
| 00:11.42 | cray3 | dangit why havent they come up with an autodetect system. this is BS. |
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| 00:12.01 | pingouin | cray3, here is my Banq number in pv, you can send as much as you want (i wish a bi-xeon please) ;) |
| 00:12.12 | initech | damn "the office" is funny and sick as hell |
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| 00:13.54 | pingouin | cray3, what is you're card ref/model/brand excatly ? -ho my poor english, sorry; sorry sorry - |
| 00:14.03 | cray3 | well it's the intel integrated 815 chipset |
| 00:14.07 | cray3 | so everything is 815 |
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| 00:14.11 | cray3 | lspci shows: |
| 00:14.18 | pingouin | dont flood man |
| 00:14.26 | cray3 | 82801ba |
| 00:14.49 | pingouin | did you load the 815 module ? |
| 00:15.15 | cray3 | under the net category? i didnt see one |
| 00:15.39 | pingouin | brand of the mobo ? - not in the net category for the 815 module - |
| 00:15.43 | Morydd | Hi, I'm looking for some help setting up exim on a webserver to use an external mail server. The exim log seems to show the mail as being sent, but it's not arriving. |
| 00:15.46 | pingouin | a brand a model ? a name ? |
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| 00:16.22 | kurumin | #java |
| 00:16.28 | cray3 | ping: it's 'intel' |
| 00:16.44 | Wyzard | kurumin: This is #debian |
| 00:16.45 | cray3 | ping: mobo is whatever compaq ships in their deskpro line |
| 00:16.55 | pingouin | hhmm ok |
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| 00:17.56 | cray3 | damnit 2.2.20 worked just fine |
| 00:18.01 | cray3 | let me reboot and see what module it used |
| 00:18.02 | cray3 | brb |
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| 00:18.20 | pingouin | good id |
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| 00:18.55 | pingouin | only you can have it....if i knew you run it under an 2.2.x !!!! |
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| 00:19.11 | pingouin | why do you want the last kernel dont suport it :/ |
| 00:19.13 | Servo888 | Can you convert from ext2 to ext3 with no data loss? I'm thinking something like tune2fs -j should take care of it |
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| 00:19.43 | Wyzard | Servo888: Yes, and that's the right way to do it |
| 00:19.44 | cray3 | pingouin: it seems to use the eepro module |
| 00:20.00 | pingouin | cray3, ....so... |
| 00:20.02 | Wyzard | Servo888: You don't even need to unmount the filesystem first |
| 00:20.07 | cray3 | well, dunno yet |
| 00:20.21 | MerlinCorey | Servo888: for more information, /msg dpkg ext2 -> ext3 |
| 00:20.24 | cray3 | once we get eth0 working we get to tackle getting X to display more than green lines and crashing back to a login prompt! |
| 00:20.39 | MerlinCorey | hmmm, wait.. |
| 00:20.43 | MerlinCorey | that's not it... |
| 00:20.44 | Servo888 | Wyzard: ok thanks - I've never converted from ext2 to 3 so I'm a bit skeptical. Thanks for the input |
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| 00:20.50 | pingouin | cray3, what is you graphic card ? |
| 00:21.05 | MerlinCorey | Servo888: for more information, /msg dpkg ext2->ext3 |
| 00:21.05 | Wyzard | Servo888: Remember to edit /etc/fstab to tell it to mount as ext3 next time the system comes up |
| 00:21.10 | Bruutje | too late |
| 00:21.11 | Wyzard | hehe, too late |
| 00:21.11 | Bruutje | hehe |
| 00:21.14 | cray3 | ping: the intel 810 graphics adapter. 810 or 815. |
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| 00:22.30 | pingouin | cray3 dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
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| 00:22.51 | pingouin | and check the modconf there is also the module you look for it |
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| 00:23.50 | cray3 | ok the eth0 modprobed and reported all sorts of nifty accurate information |
| 00:23.52 | cray3 | lets ifup now |
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| 00:24.10 | cray3 | ifup worked |
| 00:24.12 | cray3 | yay! |
| 00:24.18 | cray3 | the eepro100 module was what it needed. |
| 00:24.19 | pingouin | cray3 : at last ! ;) |
| 00:24.24 | cray3 | now: on to X! |
| 00:24.28 | cray3 | X keeps saying there's no mouse pointer! |
| 00:24.44 | pingouin | cray3, did you have an X working before ? |
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| 00:24.55 | pingouin | ;) |
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| 00:25.07 | cray4 | hi |
| 00:25.09 | MerlinCorey | !rootsmite cray3 |
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| 00:25.13 | cray4 | this is me on me linux box |
| 00:25.15 | tcsetattr | cray3, when you upgrade to 2.6 you have to deal with a whole new mouse paradigm. load mousedev and psmouse |
| 00:25.22 | d33p | somebody knows a program to download a full web? |
| 00:25.34 | MerlinCorey | cray4: no ircing as root! |
| 00:25.39 | cray4 | mousedev and psmouse? |
| 00:25.41 | cray4 | merlin: why not :P |
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| 00:26.01 | cray4 | oh you mean mousedev and psmouse as kernel modules? |
| 00:26.05 | pingouin | cray3, or 4 use modconf to know the module the kernel have |
| 00:26.06 | tcsetattr | yeah |
| 00:26.24 | Wyzard | d33p: If you mean downloading a web page as well as the other pages it links to, wget can do that |
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| 00:26.43 | cray4 | yes, modconf i installed mousedev, where do i find psmouse though |
| 00:26.44 | pingouin | cray3, and also to kill the time : http://www.kernel.org get the kernel, and try to check all the options |
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| 00:26.54 | cray4 | n/m found it |
| 00:26.56 | d33p | Wyzard, how? |
| 00:27.06 | pingouin | cray3, little by little you'll gain knowledge of what you need |
| 00:27.10 | Wyzard | d33p: I don't know the options offhand; read the manpage |
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| 00:27.26 | d33p | Wyzard, I mean webpage, css stylesheets, images, linked files inside webserver tc |
| 00:27.28 | d33p | etc* |
| 00:27.47 | Wyzard | d33p: Many web browsers can do that |
| 00:27.55 | pingouin | d33p, wget |
| 00:27.58 | tcsetattr | wget -m does most of it |
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| 00:28.16 | pingouin | d33p, or..httracks or something like that... |
| 00:28.27 | Wyzard | d33p: For example, in Galeon, the "save as" dialog has a "save with content" checkbox |
| 00:28.28 | cray4 | hmm |
| 00:28.31 | cray4 | mouse working |
| 00:28.34 | jono | hi all |
| 00:28.35 | cray4 | X just display green line now though |
| 00:28.41 | cray4 | must fix0r the graphics server |
| 00:28.47 | jono | can anyone point me to a tutorial on ssh tunnelling? |
| 00:28.49 | g4sy | hey guys, what is a good way to get an XF86Config-4 file for an Toshiba Satellite Pro 410CDT? |
| 00:28.57 | pingouin | d33p, webhttrack - Copy websites to your computer, httrack with a Web interface |
| 00:29.00 | g4sy | any autoconfig stuff online? |
| 00:29.33 | d33p | pingouin, thanks |
| 00:29.56 | g4sy | i found an OLD XF86Config-4 file online, but it has a LOT of old old X option, which the server chocked on, saying that they were depreciated |
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| 00:30.14 | pingouin | g4sy, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 00:30.22 | g4sy | will try thanks |
| 00:30.34 | cray4 | pingoun, you are so totally helpful tome |
| 00:30.38 | cray4 | s/tome/to me |
| 00:30.42 | cray4 | ping, thanks so very much |
| 00:30.59 | pingouin | cray4 : 2:30..think i got to bed...i've a work... |
| 00:31.04 | pingouin | tomorrow.... |
| 00:31.30 | cray3 | oh |
| 00:31.31 | pingouin | derniere cigarette.... |
| 00:31.32 | cray3 | well |
| 00:31.37 | cray3 | you = francais? |
| 00:31.46 | pingouin | yes |
| 00:31.59 | cray3 | bienevue a #debian !:) |
| 00:32.10 | pingouin | everybody can see it in my english ;) |
| 00:32.10 | cray3 | teh modconf is quite valuable |
| 00:32.18 | pingouin | oh yeah ! |
| 00:32.31 | cray3 | mkay bye |
| 00:32.32 | cray3 | quit |
| 00:32.34 | cray3 | oops |
| 00:32.48 | cray4 | bye |
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| 00:34.15 | risky | Anyone around using gnome-2.8? getting an annoying error with gnomevfs |
| 00:34.45 | lool | risky: what kind? |
| 00:34.45 | lool | risky: segfault kind? :) |
| 00:35.03 | risky | Not so bad |
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| 00:35.22 | risky | It just can't read a file that gnome-panel needs |
| 00:35.28 | risky | So there's no menus :( |
| 00:35.42 | lool | you "can't read"? |
| 00:35.53 | risky | Bad thing is that the file is there, and... well, it refuses to read it |
| 00:36.00 | risky | Yeah |
| 00:36.15 | risky | And write it, set it 666 to try and see if that made it work |
| 00:36.24 | peptide | anyone speak spanish here ? |
| 00:36.38 | risky | Join debian-es peptide |
| 00:36.42 | lool | risky: no FS corruption or HD problem? |
| 00:36.44 | risky | But yeah, I do |
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| 00:36.57 | peptide | risky: whats me derrito cuando me miras así |
| 00:37.03 | jono | how can I look at the information in packets obtained by kismet? |
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| 00:37.26 | risky | lool, doesn't seem like it, I can read it ok with less/cat |
| 00:37.37 | risky | peptide, I melt when you look at me like that |
| 00:37.43 | lool | risky: strange |
| 00:37.55 | risky | Yeah :/ |
| 00:37.56 | lool | risky: sorry, I've heard nothing of such problems |
| 00:38.01 | peptide | oh :) |
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| 00:38.23 | risky | peptide, that's good ;-) |
| 00:38.34 | peptide | my cybermate from spain |
| 00:38.42 | risky | Also googled for it, but couldn't get anywhere |
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| 00:41.07 | g4sy | hey, i'm configuring my xfree86, and i have a toshiba with the graphics card : C&T CT65548 (chips and technologies ) will the driver "chips" work for me? |
| 00:41.16 | g4sy | more to the point, it's not working, so what will? |
| 00:41.58 | abrotman | g4sy: what do the xfree docs say? |
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| 00:42.40 | abrotman | http://xfree86.org/4.3.0/Status8.html#8 |
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| 00:43.02 | g4sy | what, like man xfree86? |
| 00:43.15 | mainiac | Hey, I just installed Debian 3.0 as the only os on a pc. I had a few minor problems mostly do to ignorance, I think. at this point I'd like to start X-windows but 'startx' doesn't work. Any idea what's wrong? |
| 00:43.15 | abrotman | that link |
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| 00:43.50 | abrotman | !tell mainiac about setup x |
| 00:43.56 | pingouin | mainiac, startx doesnt work ok, but what is say ? |
| 00:44.08 | pingouin | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:44.16 | pingouin | or ? |
| 00:44.24 | abrotman | g4sy: why doesn't your chips driver work? |
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| 00:45.35 | xerophyte | is there anyway i can build /etc/passwd from the /etc/shadow |
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| 00:46.05 | abrotman | xerophyte: what happened to /etc/passwd? |
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| 00:46.20 | xerophyte | abrotman, it got screwed i need to rebuild |
| 00:46.27 | g4sy | abrotman: server starts, but then i get "CRAZY SCREEN EFFECT"and then "failed to initialize core devices" |
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| 00:46.38 | abrotman | xerophyte: not that i'm aware .. you'd have to know the uid/gid for the entries |
| 00:47.11 | pingouin | g4sy, /var/log/XFree86.0.log |
| 00:47.14 | abrotman | what is "CRAZY SCREEN EFFECT" ? |
| 00:47.21 | pingouin | we'll know more |
| 00:47.22 | abrotman | is that an error .. or what happens? |
| 00:48.07 | mainiac | is 'startx' the correct command on Debian to start the gui? I did request the installation to install X-Windows. |
| 00:48.17 | pingouin | cat /var/log/XFree86.0.log | grep (EE) |
| 00:48.32 | abrotman | mainiac: what happens when you try? |
| 00:48.42 | pingouin | mainiac, this is what i wanted to know, do you have the packages ? |
| 00:48.50 | pingouin | mainiac, startx doesnt work ok, but what is say ? |
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| 00:48.57 | pingouin | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:49.23 | g4sy | "CRAZY SCREEN EFFECT" is like lines all running up and down, just dark lines on the black background |
| 00:49.27 | g4sy | and then a server crash |
| 00:49.38 | pingouin | g4sy, /var/log/XFree86.0.log |
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| 00:50.37 | delete852 | hey guys i got a problem with debian and the new 2.6.8.1 kernel, my problem is at the following post, can anyone give me a hand? http://security-forums.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=133233#133233 |
| 00:50.55 | SerajewelKS | can i configure arts so that if it receives data while it's suspended, and /dev/dsp isn't writable, it just discards the sound instead of storing it up and playing them all at the same time when /dev/dsp is released? |
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| 00:51.19 | t-jack | I hate Debian. |
| 00:51.26 | Guerin | !bunk |
| 00:51.26 | dpkg | rumour has it, bunk 2.6 is You can't run Linux 2.6 in woody without some newer packages. Get them at http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/packages/woody/kernel-26.html |
| 00:51.32 | MerlinCorey | t-jack: then leave |
| 00:51.32 | Guerin | t-jack: debian hates you. |
| 00:52.00 | pingouin | t-jack, very good ;) hate is the begining of something |
| 00:52.01 | loke | t-jack i hate you too |
| 00:52.03 | Guerin | delete852: you can't use 2.6 kernels with woody unless you backport a bunch of other stuff |
| 00:52.03 | abrotman | !tell delete852 about bunk |
| 00:52.19 | pingouin | men often hate women then can't have |
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| 00:52.37 | g4sy | s/then/ they |
| 00:52.42 | De_Mon | ugh, okay I've got an xsession started on fb0, but I don't know which display it's on... |
| 00:52.45 | t-jack | MerlinCorey, pingouin loke Guerin It's the best Linux out, and still sucks. |
| 00:52.48 | pingouin | g4sy, thx |
| 00:52.54 | delete852 | hmm |
| 00:52.57 | delete852 | i am looking at the site now |
| 00:52.57 | mainiac | abrotman: I get startx: command not found |
| 00:52.57 | abrotman | t-jack: why are you here bitching about it? |
| 00:53.04 | delete852 | however how come 2.4 gave me the same error |
| 00:53.05 | MerlinCorey | t-jack: why does it suck..? I love it... |
| 00:53.06 | abrotman | !find startx woody |
| 00:53.13 | pingouin | t-jack, this world is not perfect..Os no more... |
| 00:53.14 | delete852 | i never had this problem with any kernel I compiled and i run 2 debian boxes at home |
| 00:53.19 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'startx' (2 shown): (/usr/bin/startxfce) in x11/xfce ;; (/usr/X11R6/bin/startx) in x11/xbase-clients. |
| 00:53.24 | g4sy | t-jack: try debian on ppc, you'll love it |
| 00:53.26 | delete852 | one is 2.6.3 other is still 2.4 |
| 00:53.26 | De_Mon | oh the question.. how do I figure out which display X is running on (this is the first xsession and it doesnt seem to be on 0:0 |
| 00:53.39 | abrotman | !tell delete852 about kp |
| 00:53.50 | pingouin | t-jack, or build the «Perfect» Os... |
| 00:53.55 | Guerin | delete852: if you think about it, it makes sense Woody was released ~2 years before 2.6 kernels were. |
| 00:53.56 | g4sy | pingouin: t'es ben francais ;) |
| 00:54.10 | delete852 | yup |
| 00:54.12 | t-jack | g4sy, Your nick speaks volumes. :P |
| 00:54.27 | pingouin | g4sy, what do you mean ? ;) |
| 00:54.27 | mainiac | abrotman: '!find startx woody' returns '!find: find not found' |
| 00:54.29 | g4sy | huh? i honestly don't know why? |
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| 00:54.42 | g4sy | t-jack: what does it speak? |
| 00:54.46 | abrotman | mainiac: (/usr/X11R6/bin/startx) in x11/xbase-clients |
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| 00:54.52 | abrotman | mainiac: install xbase-clients |
| 00:54.53 | MerlinCorey | g4sy: he's just butt-hurt... |
| 00:54.56 | abrotman | !tell mainiac about setup x |
| 00:55.09 | pingouin | mainiac : apt-get install x-window-system-core |
| 00:55.55 | rich_ | t-jack yea linux is just a fad. Have you tried hurd? |
| 00:56.26 | Guerin | stop giving t-jack trollsnacks |
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| 00:56.36 | Guerin | he's had more than enough already |
| 00:56.47 | rich_ | oops sorry :) |
| 00:56.49 | t-jack | rich_, That's what Gates said of Unix. |
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| 00:57.09 | abrotman | t-jack: what would gates know .. unix was around long before any of his products |
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| 00:57.50 | harfooz | I have a fresh installation of debian using the sarge installer, and have trouble with my X configuration. I have a Radeon 7000 video card, and ViewSonic VG800 LCD monitor. |
| 00:57.59 | abrotman | !ati drivers |
| 00:57.59 | dpkg | debs of the binary ATI drivers are at http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html (requires that the 'rpm' package be installed) Be sure to *modularize* both the AGP GART and the Radeon DRM options in your custom kernel (under Character Devices). ATI's binary driver does NOT support 9700 mobility radeon or the Mobility U1. |
| 00:58.00 | harfooz | I simply don't know what to do at this point. |
| 00:58.13 | robink | How do I tell ncurses that I have an unusual terminal height? |
| 00:58.17 | MerlinCorey | abrotman: he can't get X configured, he's not there yet :P |
| 00:58.30 | t-jack | abrotman, So it has, but the point is I've still got that pecular v-desk resizing proble. After I finally tracked down the real specs for my monitor. |
| 00:58.36 | abrotman | MerlinCorey: he's using the nvidia driver :) |
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| 00:59.00 | abrotman | t-jack: and .. how is that debian's fault? |
| 00:59.13 | robink | rather how do I tell the dang environment that I have an unusual terminal height? |
| 00:59.13 | g4sy | hey guys |
| 00:59.22 | g4sy | how are we supposed to use #flood? |
| 00:59.27 | Ox0F0-0FF | it's the line append to set a kernel argument right ? |
| 00:59.33 | Ox0F0-0FF | in lilo.conf i mean |
| 00:59.36 | t-jack | abrotman, Only partially related, or not at all. |
| 00:59.36 | abrotman | g4sy: you paste stuff there |
| 00:59.48 | MerlinCorey | like I said, t-jack is just butt-hurt :P |
| 01:00.00 | g4sy | i'm trying to post my xfree86.0.log there |
| 01:00.14 | t-jack | MerlinCorey, Never had it, never will. |
| 01:00.16 | De_Mon | ... geez i'ts been to long I should have been using DISPLAY=:0 |
| 01:00.20 | robink | ahh, COLUMNS and LINES :-P |
| 01:00.28 | g4sy | that seems a little big to put all that there |
| 01:00.33 | MerlinCorey | t-jack: it's a figure of speech... |
| 01:00.41 | Guerin | g4sy: yeah, that's too big |
| 01:00.55 | Guerin | g4sy: #flood is fine for a dozen or so lines |
| 01:00.58 | robink | I wish that information could be passed over vt100 |
| 01:01.07 | Guerin | but for a whole xfree log, all we care about is this: |
| 01:01.18 | Ox0F0-0FF | in lilo.conf, the kernel arguments are set by the line "append" right ? |
| 01:01.42 | egagnon | hi all... gnucash started crashing with: The font "-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--*-120-*-*-*-*-*-*" does not support all the required character sets for the current locale "LC_CTYPE=en_US.... BTS has nothing on it. Any idea where I should look? |
| 01:01.46 | Guerin | egrep 'EE|WW' /var/log/xfree86.0.log |
| 01:01.52 | Guerin | Ox0F0-0FF: yes |
| 01:02.01 | snoke | is it possible set in dhcpd order how it gives ip adress for range, eg if i have range 100 -> 255 it gives first 255 ? |
| 01:02.02 | Ox0F0-0FF | thanks |
| 01:02.36 | t-jack | MerlinCorey, Be there a .deb pkg for Xorg windowing system? |
| 01:02.43 | Guerin | !get xorg |
| 01:02.44 | dpkg | get xorg is probably see http://incubator.vislab.usyd.edu.au/roller/page/Steve/20040909 - but remember: YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN. If you whine about your xorg problems in #debian, we will show no mercy. |
| 01:02.48 | Guerin | t-jack: topic |
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| 01:03.13 | Ox0F0-0FF | and how can i set the video mode "on the fly" in console ? i want 80x25 ..... |
| 01:03.24 | initech | t-jack: and this has something to do with ... anything? |
| 01:03.56 | g4sy | ok i posted the XFree86.0.log |
| 01:04.03 | t-jack | abrotman, Hey, I learned to swim after nearly drowning... of my own foolish actions... |
| 01:04.17 | Guerin | g4sy: not the whole thing, just the output of the command I told you? |
| 01:04.26 | abrotman | Guerin: he did |
| 01:04.29 | g4sy | ya, i did the grep like you said |
| 01:04.32 | Guerin | huzzah! |
| 01:04.46 | g4sy | guerin: what? |
| 01:04.56 | abrotman | of course .. it only really shows his mouse config is borked |
| 01:04.59 | Guerin | g4sy: that's good, yay |
| 01:05.03 | Guerin | hehe |
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| 01:05.13 | Alster | hi! any experiences with the gimp not displaying truetype fonts correctly here? |
| 01:05.14 | abrotman | g4sy: do you have an lcd? |
| 01:05.27 | g4sy | haha ya it's a toshiba laptop |
| 01:05.36 | t-jack | Guerin, BTW, could you give me a basic grep search you know works? I wanna try something. |
| 01:05.43 | AzuKa | is there anyone french that could help me for few minutes about debian basic install ? |
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| 01:05.48 | Guerin | t-jack: ??? |
| 01:05.55 | abrotman | !french |
| 01:05.55 | dpkg | Vous pouvez obtenir de l'aide sur Debian sur le canal #debian-fr - For help in french, please join #debian-fr |
| 01:05.57 | Guerin | t-jack: a basic grep search for what? |
| 01:06.06 | AzuKa | abrotman, thx :) |
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| 01:06.24 | t-jack | Guerin, Anything. grep always returns emptyset for me. |
| 01:06.29 | g4sy | SATELLITE PRO 410 SERIES with graphix C&T CT65548 |
| 01:06.44 | abrotman | g4sy: linux-laptop.net |
| 01:06.50 | abrotman | look for your laptop |
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| 01:07.12 | initech | t-jack: did it occur to you that it was correct in finding no matches? |
| 01:07.22 | Guerin | t-jack: grep a /var/log/syslog |
| 01:07.36 | Guerin | t-jack: that'll return any line with a lowercase a in it |
| 01:07.41 | dumitru | Hi! my Firefox 1.0 exits with run-mozilla.sh: line 159: 27009 Segmentation fault "$prog" ${1+"$@"}. As far as I found, this problem is caused by FreeType2 font engine. However, if I try to remove this package many others packages are about to be removed, anyone who could tell me please how can I safetly downgrade FreeType2 to a previous version or any other idea how to fix this problem? |
| 01:07.52 | g4sy | t-jack: grep 'phrase' /nameoffile |
| 01:07.53 | initech | t-jack: grep -i [a-z] /* |
| 01:07.59 | Guerin | t-jack: grep DOES work, you just have to grep for things which are in the file |
| 01:08.05 | Guerin | initech: hehe |
| 01:08.07 | robink | Is there a way to communicate the columns/rows of the connecting terminal w/ vt100? |
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| 01:08.33 | Guerin | dumitru: wht are you trying to remove freetype? |
| 01:08.51 | bonez39 | is there any utility I can run, to probe my compaq deskpro EN to see what the video card running is? |
| 01:09.21 | Guerin | dumitru: the problem's caused by the interaction between freetype and fox, not by freetype in isoolation. try to reproduce it and file a bug, that's what prereleases are for. |
| 01:09.29 | Guerin | bonez39: lspci |
| 01:09.31 | Guerin | ? |
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| 01:09.50 | xpato | hi |
| 01:09.57 | Alster | hi! any experiences with the gimp not displaying truetype fonts correctly here? |
| 01:09.58 | Guerin | bonez39: dpkg-recongifurexserver-xfree86 will also tlel you |
| 01:10.07 | bonez39 | Guerin: sometimes it's too obvious |
| 01:10.12 | xpato | how can i write cd with cdrecord and an ide burner? |
| 01:10.17 | keebler | i'm running unstable on a 2.6 kernel. i did a dist-upgrade a few days ago, and now all sorts of things are crapping out with "elf_machine_rel_relative: Assertion `((reloc->r_info) & 0xff) == 8' failed!". i found a bug report with this message, but it seemed to be from a while ago, and didn't mention a way to fix it. anyone know what's wrong/how to fix it? |
| 01:10.23 | dumitru | Guerin: as far as I read searching the web, FreeType2 is caused Firefox to seg fault. Even with the latest version of Firefox from unstable I still have the same problem, so I think it's not Firefox but FreeType's fault |
| 01:10.37 | bonez39 | Guerin: that will tell me what card I have? |
| 01:11.07 | t-jack | Guerin, OK fine. Now, how do I keep v-desks from spontaneously resizing off the screen when I add or remove app windows? |
| 01:11.31 | Guerin | dumitru: lots of things rely on freetype. Not many things rely on firefox. Choose which one you want to not use. If there's nothing in the BTS about it, reproduce this behavior and use reportbug to file. |
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| 01:11.40 | Guerin | t-jack: no idea. |
| 01:11.42 | bonez39 | Guerin: if it shows 82815 CGC Intel controller...is that what I want? |
| 01:12.02 | Guerin | bonez39: I don't know what crad you're runing. |
| 01:12.08 | Guerin | !eyeometer |
| 01:12.11 | t-jack | Guerin, Feed the troll, my ass. This feeds my paranoia. |
| 01:12.20 | Guerin | t-jack: why? |
| 01:12.24 | DJBaz | hi, which package contains 'sh-elf-gcc' ? |
| 01:12.35 | Guerin | !tell DJBaz about search |
| 01:12.58 | bonez39 | rufius: I hadn't thought of that... |
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| 01:13.04 | bonez39 | rufius: thanks |
| 01:13.05 | Guerin | bonez39: try using the eyeometer |
| 01:13.24 | bonez39 | guerin: good idea, but I can't figure out how to break into the case yet...it's tricky |
| 01:13.31 | DJBaz | Guerin, thanks, ill give it a go |
| 01:13.32 | t-jack | Guerin, I have problems that no one else can duplicate. |
| 01:13.40 | Guerin | t-jack: that sucks. |
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