| 00:00.07 | abydos | I've seen one, maybe 2 Java apps I found useful. |
| 00:00.13 | zinx | delire: that makes me sad |
| 00:00.15 | delire | zinx: java itself is a portability nightmare. |
| 00:00.27 | zinx | delire: i'm fully aware ;) |
| 00:00.34 | delire | zinx: still for browser driven projects, i'd pick it up over Flashism anyday |
| 00:00.36 | abydos | The most obvious one is JRioUtil, because I'm too weenie to call rioutil directly. |
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| 00:00.48 | zinx | delire: oh, sure. flash is even -more- non-portable |
| 00:00.59 | abydos | Yeah, it is. |
| 00:01.02 | zinx | delire: and flash doesn't even really have a standard, even one that isn't followed :/ |
| 00:01.28 | rich_ | I used one java app. It was a fishtack screensaver that allowed fish to move from host to host across the internet. So clealy java is neccessary for mission critical things like that but Im just saying it has a lot of overhead |
| 00:01.33 | delire | zinx: i can't stand flash.. really despise the fact i need a propietary editor just to create work for the 'standard' |
| 00:01.37 | rich_ | fishtank |
| 00:01.44 | abydos | However, for web apps, there's not really many standards for multimedia content. |
| 00:02.16 | abydos | Java has a ton of overheade. |
| 00:02.38 | cafuego | uh-oh |
| 00:02.39 | abydos | Flash has a ton of overhead, but in a somewhat different sense. |
| 00:02.40 | delire | when we say 'standard' we are talking about delivery platform or developer framework? |
| 00:02.51 | Blissex | rich_: Java sometimes has lots of overhead, but less than people think, and sometimes the overhead does not matter. |
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| 00:03.07 | cafuego | delire: You cna always use PHP to generate flash movies - php is FOSS ;-) |
| 00:03.13 | delire | check out http://processing.org they have very lean, high action java there |
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| 00:03.25 | abydos | Well-written Java apps /do/ exist, but they are few and far between. |
| 00:03.34 | delire | cafuego: technically speaking.. ever made one? i tried.. it's an arse. |
| 00:03.42 | Blissex | rich_: example: the Quake3 engine rewritten in Java runs at about the same speed as the C version. Reason is, almost all time is spent rendering 3D, and being a bit slower on the rest does not matter. |
| 00:03.44 | cafuego | delire: No, I don;'t use flash (at all) |
| 00:03.45 | thomas_adam | Ah, abydos. I've missed your trolling-self. |
| 00:03.55 | delire | cafuego: wise |
| 00:03.58 | ngz | how do i get a cd installer to boot where the machine doenst like to boot from cd but can boot from floppy (ie, is there a way to tell the floppy sarge installer to boot from a cd, or to use a rescue disk then tell it to boot form cd?) |
| 00:04.04 | abydos | thomas_adam: It's mutual, I'm sure. |
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| 00:04.19 | Blissex | rich_: also what abidos says is well agreeable, but then most C apps are shoddily written. Most programmers are pretty bad. |
| 00:04.21 | rich_ | Blissex Yea, same with c. And you know, now that you mention it, people defend java by claiming things like that dont matter, when in fact they matter just about as much as any other language. |
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| 00:04.44 | MelloYello | can someone quickly tell me what the pid file if for that comes with every application or service? |
| 00:04.57 | philips | Does anyone know which package I need to reconfigure to turn off Anti Aliasing? |
| 00:04.57 | Blissex | rich_: they dont matter _in some cases_. |
| 00:05.00 | thomas_adam | MelloYello: /proc |
| 00:05.03 | delire | cafuego: i resent the abuse of flash in 2-tier menus on the websites of idiots and online banking alike |
| 00:05.07 | Blissex | philips: fontconfig |
| 00:05.21 | thomas_adam | MelloYello: Unless you mean deamons which lock pid files in /var/run/ |
| 00:05.35 | MelloYello | thomas_admin: yeah in /var/run |
| 00:05.38 | cafuego | delire: 2-tier menus suck as well. |
| 00:05.45 | Blissex | delire: most web sites are designed to look good at the launch demo to the customer, not to be good for actual users of the service. |
| 00:05.46 | delire | cafuego: heh |
| 00:05.51 | rich_ | Blissex Thats true, but in that respect java is like any other language. The way its different is How big the overhead is that supposedly doesnt matter in some cases. |
| 00:05.58 | philips | Blissex: thx |
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| 00:06.06 | delire | Blissex: and isn't that sad |
| 00:06.09 | cafuego | delire: If they're in flash they won't work in half the browsers people use, same for javascript. |
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| 00:06.23 | MelloYello | thomas_admin: whats it for though? |
| 00:06.26 | kyle_[b]- | Hui. |
| 00:06.29 | kyle_[b]- | Hi. |
| 00:06.37 | thomas_adam | MelloYello: Ask a question and I'll tell you. |
| 00:06.57 | Blissex | philips: more precisely look under '/etc/fonts', and more precisely still check '/etc/fonts/local.conf' |
| 00:07.05 | Blissex | delire: it is very sad indeed... |
| 00:07.10 | kyle_[b]- | I have a problem with a plain vanilla install of debian |
| 00:07.26 | MelloYello | thomas_admin: the pid files in /var/run . what exactly does this do and why is it needed.. Most installs I have done seeem to referece one |
| 00:07.41 | kyle_[b]- | I am not talking about the iso version |
| 00:07.44 | kyle_[b]- | erm..................... |
| 00:07.47 | cafuego | kyle_[b]-: When you get around to telling us WHAT problem, let us know. |
| 00:07.49 | flamtripl3t | quit |
| 00:08.16 | kyle_[b]- | i am talking about a image installation........with coLinux |
| 00:08.29 | delire | the blender webplugin is interesting |
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| 00:08.41 | cafuego | kyle_[b]-: WHAT is not working and HOW is it not working. |
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| 00:08.58 | QuaD- | can someone help me figure out why i get Forbiddn: you don't have permission to access .... when using apache 1.3.31 |
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| 00:09.09 | cafuego | If you're going to be verbose, at least give us sueful info. |
| 00:09.10 | kyle_[b]- | anyway i cant use the internet -- for example i cannot ping an domaom |
| 00:09.15 | delire | may begin using this more, especially given there's a full Python API for the author |
| 00:09.19 | kyle_[b]- | or use apt-get update |
| 00:09.27 | kyle_[b]- | etc etc |
| 00:09.29 | cafuego | kyle_[b]-: Can you ping IP addresses? |
| 00:09.30 | kyle_[b]- | domain* |
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| 00:09.46 | DjStatik | Just a quicky, am setting up raid on a SATA controler ... just wanted to know what the difference was between raidtools and mdadm ? |
| 00:09.49 | kyle_[b]- | ill try |
| 00:10.19 | DjStatik | or mdtools for that matter |
| 00:10.23 | b_52globemaster | hello |
| 00:10.27 | b_52globemaster | i want just ask : is it ossible to boot a morphix where it's image is on usb key from a pc who didn't enable (bions) boting usb peripherique |
| 00:10.41 | delire | cafuego: hehe 'sueful' info.. an americanism perhaps |
| 00:10.55 | cafuego | delire: let's stick with 'typo' |
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| 00:11.11 | kyle_[b]- | yes cafuego |
| 00:11.28 | delire | cafuego: as convenient. |
| 00:12.05 | cafuego | kyle_[b]-: Do you have an IP for a working nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf? |
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| 00:12.16 | kyle_[b]- | cafuego, just a second. |
| 00:12.45 | nacky | whats a good current Windows emulator, other than Wine? specifically.. for gaming.. |
| 00:13.24 | thomas_adam | nacky: Windows XP. |
| 00:13.27 | rich_ | nacky vmware but its not free |
| 00:13.30 | delire | hehe |
| 00:14.01 | delire | nacky: are you including 'WineX' |
| 00:14.02 | nacky | thomas_adam, not an option. |
| 00:14.15 | nacky | ah, haven't tried WineX yet honestly.. |
| 00:14.18 | kyle_[b]- | cafuego, the answer was no. so i modified it. |
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| 00:14.31 | kyle_[b]- | and saved it |
| 00:14.34 | spoofer | Hi all from where does uw-imap takes its user configuration? If I have an account on the machine running uw-imapd, I should be able to verify my mail or..? |
| 00:14.46 | delire | nacky: eg.. transgaming.com |
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| 00:15.01 | nacky | cadega.. thats the name i'd heard. thats the thingy.. thanks delire ! |
| 00:15.05 | kyle_[b]- | cafuego, now what do I do? |
| 00:15.08 | delire | nacky: WineX has the moniker 'Cedega' now |
| 00:15.22 | nacky | got it. looks like there's a .deb of it too. |
| 00:15.46 | delire | nacky: those guys are fairly committed.. the 'working' games list is impressively long |
| 00:16.08 | delire | nacky: and if you have the option, flick them a few $$$ ;) |
| 00:16.28 | SlimeyPete | 's getting better. Still doesn't play most games, though (not that it would really be fair to expect it to) |
| 00:17.00 | nacky | yah, i have no problem throwing some $$$ where it is deserved! |
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| 00:17.26 | kyle_[b]- | cafuego?!? |
| 00:17.32 | nacky | thanks! |
| 00:17.32 | kyle_[b]- | where are you |
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| 00:17.50 | tina | anybody know where I can find libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3? the redhat crap factoid gives an older version |
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| 00:18.19 | Led_Zeppelin | my friend gave me a VCD, and it has 2 files on it. a .bin and a *.cue how can I play this VCD? |
| 00:18.25 | grigora | i tried setting up nss_ldap and am testing it with hosts, when I try to ping a host, i get million connections to the ldap server, but no results. anyone knows why? thanks |
| 00:19.07 | delire | SlimeyPete: but so many of the big games are there.. |
| 00:19.07 | Gnea | Led_Zeppelin: you must first burn it to a cd |
| 00:19.07 | Gnea | Led_Zeppelin: if you cat the .cue file you will see how it relates |
| 00:19.07 | abrotman | !tell tina about search |
| 00:19.07 | Led_Zeppelin | Gnea, can I do a localmount? |
| 00:19.07 | SlimeyPete | delire: yeah... my judgement is probably biased cos I have obscure/old tastes in games ;) |
| 00:19.14 | tina | abrotman, it's not in debian I don't think. thanks though. |
| 00:19.16 | Gnea | Led_Zeppelin: nope |
| 00:19.27 | kyle_[b]- | i NEED help. |
| 00:19.33 | Gnea | kyle_[b]-: sounds like it. |
| 00:19.38 | Gnea | :) |
| 00:19.48 | abrotman | !find libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so |
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| 00:19.58 | delire | SlimeyPete: well so do I, but this list is a good punt for Cedega: http://www.transgaming.com/dogamesearch.php?order=working&showall=1 |
| 00:20.00 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so' returned no results. |
| 00:20.06 | abrotman | !find libstdc++-libc6.2 |
| 00:20.12 | abrotman | tina: which version of debian? |
| 00:20.14 | Gnea | Led_Zeppelin: what kernel are you on? |
| 00:20.16 | cafuego | !redhat crap |
| 00:20.16 | dpkg | i heard redhat crap is 'apt-get install libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1' if you get 'libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file' (get it from woody if you use sarge or sid) |
| 00:20.21 | Led_Zeppelin | Gnea, 2.6.x |
| 00:20.22 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'libstdc++-libc6.2' returned no results. |
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| 00:20.37 | kyle_[b]- | Gnea, cafuego suggested i put DNS server names in /etc/resolv.conf. I did so. |
| 00:20.38 | tina | abrotman, sarge, I installed that package from woody, but it provides the wrong version. I forced the symlink but that segfaults |
| 00:20.48 | Gnea | Led_Zeppelin: something like this should work - use cdrdao --scanbus to check to see what it really is: cdrdao write --eject --speed 40 -v 5 --driver generic-mmc --devi |
| 00:20.49 | b_52globemaster | do you knw any livecd dedicaced to programming in c/c++/php |
| 00:20.50 | kyle_[b]- | Now what do I do, Gnea? |
| 00:20.51 | b_52globemaster | ? |
| 00:20.51 | Gnea | ce ATA:1,1,0 --force file.cue |
| 00:21.00 | Gnea | kyle_[b]-: ping something |
| 00:21.10 | SlimeyPete | delire: well, indeed. I didn't intend to knock them. |
| 00:21.12 | Gnea | Led_Zeppelin: uhm, just piece that together :) |
| 00:21.12 | abrotman | tina: what the heck are you trying to run? |
| 00:21.35 | Gnea | tina: yeah, you wanna make sure you have the right .deb |
| 00:21.55 | Led_Zeppelin | Gnea, no blank CDs, I just want to mount it as a filesystem |
| 00:22.00 | tina | abrotman, some junk from brother's linux support site. |
| 00:22.08 | Gnea | hrm |
| 00:22.08 | abrotman | tina: such as? |
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| 00:22.20 | Gnea | Led_Zeppelin: i can't remember if there's a way to convert that to .iso w/o first burning it to a cd.. :/ |
| 00:22.21 | kyle_[b]- | Gnea, nope, 100% packet loss |
| 00:22.27 | Gnea | kyle_[b]-: to where? |
| 00:22.36 | tina | abrotman, the LPR filter for the MFC-3820CN usb printer |
| 00:22.53 | tina | they have a debian package for it, but of course the deps on it don't include anything it really needs |
| 00:23.06 | abrotman | tina: that needs libstdc++ ? |
| 00:23.06 | kyle_[b]- | Gnea, to 127.0.0.1 and the ip assocoate with yahoo.com |
| 00:23.12 | delire | tina: what do you mean? |
| 00:23.12 | kyle_[b]- | associated |
| 00:23.19 | dondelelcaro | Led_Zeppelin: bchuck will do it. |
| 00:23.24 | delire | tina: what dependencies are missing? |
| 00:23.27 | Gnea | kyle_[b]-: how many lines in your /etc/resolv.conf? |
| 00:23.39 | kyle_[b]- | Gnea, 1 |
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| 00:23.44 | Gnea | kyle_[b]-: paste it here once |
| 00:24.01 | alejandro_ | guys, does anyones knows why could be that gnome doesn't start? i don't get any error in /var/log/XFree86.0.log |
| 00:24.01 | tina | abrotman, yep. |
| 00:24.04 | b_52globemaster | do you knw any livecd dedicaced to programming in c/c++/php |
| 00:24.04 | b_52globemaster | ? |
| 00:24.08 | kyle_[b]- | Gnea, HOW???? debian is in coLinux |
| 00:24.25 | alejandro_ | it just shows the box where the apps should be loading, but nothing loads :S |
| 00:24.32 | tina | abrotman, http://solutions.brother.com/Library/sol/printer/linux/lpr_drivers.html |
| 00:24.34 | Blissex | b_52globemaster: yes, there is one specifically dedicated to LAMP people. |
| 00:24.36 | kyle_[b]- | wtf? |
| 00:24.44 | delire | alejandro_: errors won't turn up there, that's XFree's logs |
| 00:24.55 | Blissex | b_52globemaster: cannot quite remember the name Check DistroWatch. |
| 00:25.02 | alejandro_ | delire, where should i look? |
| 00:25.10 | kyle_[b]- | Gnea: |
| 00:25.11 | abrotman | tina: if you use the debian one .. what does it complain about missing? |
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| 00:25.27 | kyle_[b]- | nameserver 24.153.23.66 |
| 00:25.28 | delire | alejandro_: i don't run gnome. there must be a Gnome log |
| 00:25.32 | Gnea | kyle_[b]-: never heard of colinux until just now, alright how is it getting its ip address? from the wintendo or from the isp? |
| 00:25.36 | alejandro_ | i will search |
| 00:25.37 | b_52globemaster | ok thanks |
| 00:25.37 | b_52globemaster | is it lamppix |
| 00:26.00 | kyle_[b]- | Gnea, hm? |
| 00:26.12 | tina | abrotman, well, the package itself doesn't complain about anything missing, but when I print something I get nice pretty errors in the LPR log saying it needs that library. |
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| 00:26.14 | Blissex | Gnea: it is a VMware style thingie (as in VMware meets UML, for W2k) |
| 00:26.15 | abrotman | !colinux |
| 00:26.15 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, colinux is http://colinux.org/ |
| 00:26.19 | Gnea | kyle_[b]-: the ip address on your debian setup - is it local or is it a real ip address? |
| 00:26.21 | delire | alejandro_: when you say 'doesn't start'.. what actually happens? |
| 00:26.27 | Gnea | Blissex: yeah i read the url |
| 00:26.33 | abrotman | tina: but that file isn't in woody even |
| 00:26.37 | Gnea | way ahead of ya :) |
| 00:26.42 | kyle_[b]- | Gnea, no idea. how to check? |
| 00:26.44 | abrotman | tina: oh wait .. waht file? |
| 00:26.48 | tina | apparantly it's in libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 |
| 00:26.50 | Gnea | kyle_[b]-: /sbin/ifconfig |
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| 00:27.23 | abrotman | tina: exactly .. .what file name? |
| 00:27.36 | alejandro_ | delire, actually it doesn't load, it shows only the box where the program are loaging but i don't see anything loading... |
| 00:27.57 | Gnea | alejandro_: tried ~/.xsession-errors ? |
| 00:28.07 | abrotman | !info libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 sarge |
| 00:28.11 | dpkg | libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2: (The GNU stdc++ library), section libs, is optional. Version: 1:2.95.4-22 (sarge), Packaged size: 124 kB, Installed size: 340 kB |
| 00:28.22 | alejandro_ | Gnea, will check |
| 00:28.25 | abrotman | now .. why didn't dpkg find that file? |
| 00:28.34 | kyle_[b]- | Gnea, wrong nameserver ip, fixed |
| 00:28.41 | abrotman | tina: you said sarge right? |
| 00:28.46 | Gnea | kyle_[b]-: pings alright? :) |
| 00:28.48 | b_52globemaster | he guys for who are interested by building there distribution based on debian: |
| 00:28.51 | b_52globemaster | http://ibuild.livecd.net/howto.en.php |
| 00:28.58 | QuaD- | :( i need help with my apache 1.3.31 server, always giving me 403 errors... can SOMEONE ANYONE help me with that |
| 00:29.10 | Gnea | !tell QuaD- about ask |
| 00:29.19 | kyle_[b]- | Gnea, not on 127.0.0.1 |
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| 00:29.26 | Led_Zeppelin | dondelelcaro, you good with bchunk? I created the ISO with it, but now what? |
| 00:29.27 | QuaD- | Gnea: i have no idea what the problem is htoguh |
| 00:29.27 | tina | abrotman, yes, I'm running sarge. obviously that redhat crap package is only in debian. |
| 00:29.28 | abrotman | tina: ? |
| 00:29.30 | abrotman | oh |
| 00:29.30 | Gnea | kyle_[b]-: you can't ping localhost? |
| 00:29.34 | abrotman | tina: i have that file you need |
| 00:29.35 | b_52globemaster | http://ibuild.livecd.net/howto.en.php |
| 00:29.37 | dondelelcaro | Led_Zeppelin: now mount it through a loopback |
| 00:29.38 | kyle_[b]- | Gnea, nope |
| 00:29.42 | abrotman | !info libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 sarge |
| 00:29.44 | grigora | does anyone know why nss_ldap would generate million connections to my ldap server, but no results? thanks |
| 00:29.46 | dpkg | libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2: (The GNU stdc++ library), section libs, is optional. Version: 1:2.95.4-22 (sarge), Packaged size: 124 kB, Installed size: 340 kB |
| 00:29.48 | abrotman | tina: see if you can get that |
| 00:29.50 | Gnea | QuaD-: have you read the error logs in /var/log/apache/ ? |
| 00:29.57 | QuaD- | yeah, not getting any |
| 00:30.08 | Gnea | as in.. they don't exist? |
| 00:30.16 | QuaD- | as in no errors |
| 00:30.21 | Gnea | i see |
| 00:30.23 | tina | abrotman, sorry, on dialup and trying to debug it. I think I said I found it in that already though :) |
| 00:30.33 | Gnea | have you been editting your httpd.conf/apache.conf ? |
| 00:30.39 | QuaD- | yea |
| 00:30.43 | Gnea | thought so :) |
| 00:30.44 | tina | abrotman, out of curiosity, are you helping me because I'm female? |
| 00:30.45 | QuaD- | trying to get it to work |
| 00:30.45 | Gnea | well then |
| 00:30.47 | abrotman | tina: darn it :) |
| 00:30.51 | QuaD- | nothing out of the ordinary though |
| 00:30.53 | abrotman | tina: what do you think that? |
| 00:30.55 | alejandro_ | delire, i got this gnome-smproxy: unable to connect to session manager |
| 00:30.58 | Gnea | think about what you've been doing and backtrace thru the conf file |
| 00:31.06 | abrotman | tina: would you rather i not help you? |
| 00:31.09 | QuaD- | it never owrked |
| 00:31.13 | QuaD- | which is why i modified it |
| 00:31.13 | Gnea | QuaD-: right, but when you first installed it, it worked did it not? |
| 00:31.15 | tina | abrotman, just curious. |
| 00:31.16 | Gnea | no way |
| 00:31.18 | QuaD- | nope |
| 00:31.19 | Gnea | you're running debian |
| 00:31.23 | QuaD- | kept getting these errors |
| 00:31.24 | Gnea | apache runs out of the box |
| 00:31.29 | QuaD- | mine didn't |
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| 00:31.33 | tina | my friend lorez says that chicks get more help |
| 00:31.35 | abrotman | tina: nope .. i help lots of people |
| 00:31.38 | QuaD- | is there a way for me to start from scratch? |
| 00:31.41 | delire | alejandro_: do you have a session manager> |
| 00:31.43 | spoofer | hi all after installing uw-imap, I get all the content on my home directory when I connect my imap server.. is there a way to see only e-mails? |
| 00:31.47 | kyle_[b]- | Gnea, How can i enable localhost pinging |
| 00:31.48 | QuaD- | i will try again, but it never worked |
| 00:31.52 | Gnea | tina: you think sex means everything eh? |
| 00:31.57 | alejandro_ | delire, gdm |
| 00:32.08 | delire | alejandro_: is it running? |
| 00:32.15 | abrotman | tina: well .. chicks get help .. just like guys .. i just happend to stop trying to kill zentraedi when you asked your questino |
| 00:32.16 | Gnea | QuaD-: yeah - apt-get remove apache && dpkg --purge apache && apt-get install apache |
| 00:32.30 | alejandro_ | it runs it self when i start the computer |
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| 00:32.33 | abrotman | tina: sorry if you think i'm trying to pick you up on irc |
| 00:32.40 | abrotman | tina: and why didnt' LoRez help you? |
| 00:32.43 | delire | Gnea: really, really bad start |
| 00:32.44 | rich_ | tina But with a nick like tina, everyone will think your a guy. Probably an italian gangster. |
| 00:32.52 | kyle_[b]- | yay |
| 00:33.01 | Gnea | delire: i'm sorry, what are you talking about? |
| 00:33.05 | tina | abrotman, because he's sitting at the keyboard currently |
| 00:33.06 | kyle_[b]- | now i can install xfce or kde or.................... |
| 00:33.11 | alejandro_ | delire, it runs it self when i start the computer |
| 00:33.12 | abrotman | tina: which keyboard? |
| 00:33.20 | tina | abrotman, this one. |
| 00:33.22 | delire | Gnea: o, nothing. you're doing fine |
| 00:33.28 | abrotman | tina: you're tina .. not loc |
| 00:33.29 | abrotman | LoRez: |
| 00:33.31 | Gnea | delire: of course i am :) |
| 00:33.34 | delire | alejandro_: hmm, i would visit #gnome |
| 00:33.35 | abrotman | i'm confused |
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| 00:33.39 | abrotman | is LoRez tina? |
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| 00:33.50 | tina | abrotman, I'm on her computer currently |
| 00:33.54 | abrotman | why do people make my brain hurt :) |
| 00:33.55 | Gnea | sorry, just got home work, i'm starving, waiting on the gf to come pick me up and feed me :) |
| 00:34.02 | Gnea | she's cooking a ton of pasta |
| 00:34.03 | abrotman | tina: so wait .. you're LoRez in drag? |
| 00:34.06 | delire | tina: hehe wonderful |
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| 00:34.14 | Gnea | and it's raining out |
| 00:34.16 | tina | abrotman, something like that. |
| 00:34.17 | alejandro_ | delire, noone there :( thats why i'm here :) |
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| 00:34.33 | Gnea | so she'd better not get in an accident :P |
| 00:34.37 | helix | omg, LoRez is a girl! |
| 00:34.39 | abrotman | tina: well .. lorez should certainly no how to find such a file as libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 |
| 00:34.56 | abrotman | tina: but dpkg(the bot) doesn't seem to want to find it .. but i have that package above and that file |
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| 00:35.03 | QuaD- | Gnea: trying now |
| 00:35.03 | abrotman | btw .. i'm still damn confused |
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| 00:35.16 | tina | yeah, that's the first place I tried |
| 00:35.17 | helix | abrotman: you're always confused |
| 00:35.22 | excelblue | does anyone here use bootsplash? |
| 00:35.23 | abrotman | helix: i am |
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| 00:35.29 | excelblue | what window manager does everyone use? |
| 00:35.34 | abrotman | helix: but i'm still thinking LoRez is tina |
| 00:35.37 | abrotman | i can't figure this out |
| 00:35.40 | Gnea | อออ everyone: No such nick/channel |
| 00:35.43 | Gnea | :) |
| 00:35.51 | helix | abrotman: yes, LoRez is tina |
| 00:35.54 | Gnea | <-- Enlightenment |
| 00:36.03 | helix | abrotman: let's not make him feel uncomfortable with his transition |
| 00:36.08 | tina | if I knew my /oper password I'd demonstrate |
| 00:36.13 | Gnea | rofl |
| 00:36.13 | helix | her transition, rather |
| 00:36.25 | abrotman | helix: does that make LoRez a girl |
| 00:36.26 | tina | but, it's like 12 digits long |
| 00:36.31 | helix | abrotman: yes |
| 00:36.38 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: looking for a date? |
| 00:36.47 | helix | hides too |
| 00:36.57 | *** mode/#debian [+o LoRez_] by ChanServ |
| 00:36.57 | Gnea | watch out, power crazed ircops abound! |
| 00:37.01 | abrotman | ok .. that's it |
| 00:37.01 | LoRez_ | there, that good enough? |
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| 00:37.06 | abrotman | i'm confused as all hell |
| 00:37.07 | *** mode/#debian [-o LoRez_] by LoRez_ |
| 00:37.08 | helix | ack |
| 00:37.13 | QuaD- | Gnea: did exactly what you said, still didn't work |
| 00:37.24 | abrotman | i still dont understand if lorez is a girl |
| 00:37.27 | Gnea | QuaD-: you don't get a debian test page? |
| 00:37.29 | helix | hahaha |
| 00:37.30 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: speaking of which you never called me </pout> |
| 00:37.38 | tina | abrotman, no, I'm not. I have all the correct parts to be male. |
| 00:37.43 | QuaD- | no |
| 00:37.52 | abrotman | so why is tina asking me if i helped her if she's a girl |
| 00:37.54 | helix | yeah, like a medulla oblongata only |
| 00:37.56 | abrotman | if tina is lorez |
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| 00:38.02 | abrotman | and lorez is tina |
| 00:38.06 | helix | abrotman: dude. |
| 00:38.12 | tina | because I appear to be female in my disguise |
| 00:38.13 | helix | it's not that difficult |
| 00:38.14 | Gnea | QuaD-: what url are you putting into your browser? |
| 00:38.18 | helix | but let me spell it out for you |
| 00:38.21 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: i'm sorry |
| 00:38.27 | QuaD- | http://localhost:8080 (i set it to port 8080) |
| 00:38.28 | Gnea | tina: i bet you thought i was female at one point |
| 00:38.29 | helix | LOREZ IS USING SOMEONE ELSES COMPUTER. THEIR NAME/NICK IS TINA. |
| 00:38.31 | helix | got it? |
| 00:38.33 | QuaD- | also tried iwth my ip |
| 00:38.33 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: as well you should be :D |
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| 00:38.46 | abrotman | helix: did i break your shift key? |
| 00:38.48 | Gnea | QuaD-: oh ok, what about if you do it w/o :8080 ? |
| 00:38.50 | helix | and he can't remember his password |
| 00:39.00 | abrotman | tina: no .. i didn't help you because a girl .. |
| 00:39.00 | QuaD- | it runs apache 2 |
| 00:39.05 | Gnea | helix: yeah uh huh sure :P |
| 00:39.08 | abrotman | tina: i helped you because you need help |
| 00:39.08 | QuaD- | and it runs it fine |
| 00:39.15 | helix | tina: they want you to be a girl so badly |
| 00:39.18 | tina | abrotman, dude, don't have a cow |
| 00:39.22 | abrotman | ask helix .. i help lots of people .. or i try to anyways |
| 00:39.27 | tina | helix, apparantly you're not enough for them ;) |
| 00:39.33 | helix | because I hate them all |
| 00:39.35 | Gnea | QuaD-: ok that's a step in the direction - go to #flood and paste that part of the configuration where you have the 8080 set |
| 00:39.35 | abrotman | or ask scarynetworkguy .. but he's a bad judge of character .. he hangs out with Phated |
| 00:39.44 | QuaD- | ok |
| 00:40.00 | abrotman | no cows . |
| 00:40.05 | abrotman | mmm .. cheesesteak |
| 00:40.14 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: what I need you to do is go out in the front yard and play a nice rousing game of hide and go fuck yourself |
| 00:40.21 | helix | ooooh |
| 00:40.27 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: that sounds like little fun |
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| 00:40.31 | helix | scarynetworkguy: we know the child pr0n charges aren't true. relax. |
| 00:40.33 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: so does this mean you aren't taking me to warmdaddy's? |
| 00:40.42 | scarynetworkguy | helix: heh |
| 00:40.43 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: you come to philly .. and i'll treat :) |
| 00:40.51 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: I'm there :) |
| 00:40.56 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: uh huh ... |
| 00:41.00 | abrotman | and lorez is a girl |
| 00:41.22 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: next year on my way to Defcon from OR to NV via Philly makes perfect sense to me :) |
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| 00:41.31 | helix | haha. you're going to defcon |
| 00:41.34 | helix | !laugh at scarynetworkguy |
| 00:41.35 | dpkg | HAHAHA! AH-HAHA! scarynetworkguy just cracks me up! |
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| 00:41.39 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: and yes you do help many people |
| 00:41.41 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: ok |
| 00:41.42 | scarynetworkguy | helix: thanks :D |
| 00:41.59 | kyle_[b]- | ok |
| 00:42.07 | kyle_[b]- | how do i start kde |
| 00:42.07 | abrotman | too bad i can't help my boss .. he's always going to be stupid |
| 00:42.08 | helix | people older than 21 at defcon == hilarious |
| 00:42.22 | Gnea | helix: why's that? |
| 00:42.31 | abrotman | i want LISA to come back to philly |
| 00:42.35 | helix | defcon is for script kiddies and scene whores |
| 00:42.35 | kyle_[b]- | Gnea? |
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| 00:42.39 | kyle_[b]- | how do i start kde? |
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| 00:43.11 | abrotman | helix: do you go? |
| 00:43.16 | helix | abrotman: of course not |
| 00:43.24 | Gnea | QuaD-: try Listen 8080 |
| 00:43.27 | helix | I would rather bite max's toenails |
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| 00:43.35 | kyle_[b]- | Gnea? |
| 00:43.36 | dondelelcaro | mmm... scene whores |
| 00:43.37 | Gnea | QuaD-: i gotta jam, woman's here to pick me up |
| 00:43.48 | abrotman | helix: i would too . except for that whole .. digging in the kitty litter thing |
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| 00:44.01 | QuaD- | ok thanks for your help! |
| 00:44.14 | thoreauputic | kyle_[b]-: startx /usr/bin/startkde |
| 00:44.34 | abrotman | pizza or cheesesteak ... |
| 00:44.37 | abrotman | hmmm |
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