| 00:00.05 | abrotman | bob2: /msg you a url with some samples? |
| 00:00.10 | bob2 | next time I'll know better ;) |
| 00:00.15 | xam | bob2: well, yes. My hobby is astronomy, and if you use binoculars with a 10x zoom you are about at the upper limit for sky watching (only very few binoculars are light/balanced enough that you can even use 15 zoom). And with a bino you have a much better grip than holding a camera |
| 00:00.37 | bob2 | it was weird, tho...normally when I buy tech things I know all about it and can pick based on specs and word on the street |
| 00:00.40 | sds_ | bob2: does that still work if you don't use a login manager |
| 00:00.43 | bob2 | abrotman: sure, that'd be great |
| 00:00.56 | bob2 | sds_: it only works if you don't use a login manager |
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| 00:01.05 | abrotman | bob2: they are NOT small images |
| 00:01.07 | bob2 | xam: hm, yeah |
| 00:01.10 | deadcat | dammit. wireless is sucking on me. |
| 00:01.12 | bob2 | abrotman: I've got dsl now :) |
| 00:01.12 | abrotman | bob2: and not thumbnailed |
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| 00:01.17 | sds_ | bob2: casue i tried it and i changed it to xfce but when i hit startx it stills starts kde |
| 00:01.18 | abrotman | !win bob2 |
| 00:01.18 | dpkg | Congratulations, bob2! You have won the US presidency! |
| 00:01.22 | bob2 | deadcat: at least you have wireless |
| 00:01.24 | pmcdonnell | Is there a way to guarantee that all files created by any user in a given directory are chgrp'ed to a certain group, and have group write privelages? |
| 00:01.24 | bob2 | bastard! |
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| 00:01.37 | bob2 | sds_: echo startxfce >> ~/.xsession |
| 00:01.38 | deadcat | bob2: neighbor must be moving the router around. AGAIN... )= |
| 00:01.39 | abrotman | bob2: mind you .. i'm not that great of a photographer |
| 00:01.55 | bob2 | pmcdonnell: make the dir g+s |
| 00:01.56 | deadcat | bob2: so the flicker wont host my LCD right? |
| 00:02.00 | bob2 | pmcdonnell: and set their umask |
| 00:02.03 | deadcat | ^host^hose |
| 00:02.12 | bob2 | deadcat: I don't know much about lcds |
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| 00:02.20 | WiFiTux | I rather use simple cameras, I don't use them much. I have a Canon Rebel |
| 00:02.28 | abrotman | pmcdonnell: change thier gid in /etc/passwd ? |
| 00:02.54 | pmcdonnell | bob2, I want it only for a specific directory, not every file/directory the user creates. Can umask do that? |
| 00:03.04 | bob2 | pmcdonnell: no |
| 00:03.04 | abrotman | bob2: i forgot how many pics were there |
| 00:03.08 | bob2 | acls can |
| 00:03.24 | pmcdonnell | bob2, interesting... where can I find more info on that? |
| 00:03.28 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: heh. good luck. |
| 00:03.36 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: why? . i've done it before |
| 00:03.44 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: unless PHP has imlib2 bindings, you're going to be watching some seriously slow resizing. |
| 00:03.47 | deadcat | abrotman: i juse use igal to gen my images |
| 00:03.49 | bob2 | abrotman: hm, why are the tiny images taking so long to download? |
| 00:04.02 | abrotman | bob2: they aren't tiny .. they are just small :) |
| 00:04.07 | WiFiTux | abrotman, what's your site? |
| 00:04.10 | dondelelcaro | gallery.donarmstrong.com |
| 00:04.14 | LSorensen | bob2: some pages use the full size image as thumbnail and just tell the browser to show it a certain size |
| 00:04.24 | LSorensen | bob2: rather dumb/lazy of the page designer |
| 00:04.27 | abrotman | WiFiTux: really NOT small images |
| 00:04.38 | bob2 | pmcdonnell: I'm not really sure... |
| 00:04.41 | bob2 | LSorensen: ah |
| 00:04.47 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: the problem is that it requires a subdomain |
| 00:04.49 | dondelelcaro | libimlib2 and the perl bindings, Image::Imlib2, are the best thing since sliced bread. |
| 00:04.53 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: nah, it doesn't. |
| 00:05.03 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: see rzlab.ucr.edu/pictures |
| 00:05.09 | bob2 | pmcdonnell: acl.bestbits.at or so |
| 00:05.11 | WiFiTux | abrotman, I have a 1MB adsl and still have only downloaded 5. |
| 00:05.19 | LSorensen | bob2: viewing the thumnails requires downloading the whole galery that way, although you then should get instant viewing when you click a thumbnail of course |
| 00:05.23 | abrotman | WiFiTux: i have 3Mb cable .. takes me a while :) |
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| 00:05.29 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: oh. |
| 00:05.34 | WiFiTux | abrotman, hehe |
| 00:05.40 | spoofer | guestish: mm seems that It comes from a hdparm -B /dev/hda... any ideas why? |
| 00:05.51 | bob2 | LSorensen: yeah, was just thinking at least my cache will be hot |
| 00:06.01 | abrotman | bob2: sorry .. really big pictures :) |
| 00:06.03 | bob2 | but fuck, they're big images |
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| 00:06.12 | abrotman | bob2: they are :) |
| 00:06.12 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: do you have to use it's interface to upload images or you can just cp * to a dir? |
| 00:06.23 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: there's no interface. It's just a directory of jpegs. |
| 00:06.31 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: and bmps, and tiffs, and everything. |
| 00:06.37 | bob2 | abrotman: some particular part of the country? |
| 00:06.44 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: NICE!!!.. gallery suck because i have to use that stupid thing to upload shits |
| 00:06.45 | dobsonj | hey all, I'm trying to setup a wireless pcmcia card on my laptop running sarge, and 'cardctl ident' shows the card, but no device is created for it... any idea what i need to do? edit modules.conf? |
| 00:06.46 | abrotman | bob2: mostly ... ME,LA,WI |
| 00:06.49 | pmcdonnell | bob2, thanks for the pointer |
| 00:07.03 | abrotman | bob2: a little MA |
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| 00:07.14 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: yeah. I hate that stuff, which is why I use Apache::Gallery instead. |
| 00:07.19 | LSorensen | dobsonj: modules.conf is not to be edited ever. /etc/pcmcia/ may have useful stuff in it |
| 00:07.30 | LSorensen | dobsonj: wireless-tools help too |
| 00:07.33 | abrotman | bob2: actually .. there isn't a single picture from PA .. where i live |
| 00:07.39 | bob2 | abrotman: maine, something, wisconsin, massachuss? |
| 00:07.51 | bob2 | and I can't believe I can't even make an approximation of spelling that |
| 00:08.07 | abrotman | bob2: Louisanna |
| 00:08.14 | abrotman | massachusetts |
| 00:08.15 | bob2 | ah |
| 00:08.21 | Gumby | deadcat: there is a java app that gallery has for you to upload if you want. or you can ftp the files into place and then use the web admin to browse to that directory as well |
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| 00:09.14 | abrotman | bob2: the ones from uhm .. February are LA .. April is ME .. August is WI |
| 00:09.20 | PerfDave | All web gallery sucks shit. |
| 00:09.23 | abrotman | bob2: the carosel rules :) |
| 00:09.34 | PerfDave | I am going to write my own which will suck less shit than the others. |
| 00:09.34 | deadcat | Gumby: i just want to cp *.jpg to a dir and thats it... igal is the easiest so far but doesnt do dynamic stuff. |
| 00:09.38 | Gumby | PerfDave: language, and thats your opinion |
| 00:09.48 | dondelelcaro | PerfDave: have you tried Apache::Gallery yet? |
| 00:09.53 | PerfDave | dondelelcaro: Yes, it was shit. |
| 00:09.58 | dondelelcaro | PerfDave: in what way? |
| 00:10.00 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: ya. damn. they made it so hard to view few images |
| 00:10.04 | abrotman | bob2: those red signs are Burma Shave Signs |
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| 00:10.12 | bob2 | I now have this uncontrolable urge to rewrite things in python |
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| 00:10.16 | PerfDave | dondelelcaro: Can't remember, my list of "why every piece of web gallery software in Debian is shit" is on another machine. |
| 00:10.19 | bob2 | so I wante a twisted image gallery |
| 00:10.28 | rich_ | PerfDave Is anything not shit? |
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| 00:10.30 | abrotman | bob2: oh . March is MA .. more specifically MV |
| 00:10.39 | PerfDave | rich_: Many things are not shit. But no web gallery software is not shit. |
| 00:10.42 | bob2 | abrotman: MV? |
| 00:10.54 | dondelelcaro | PerfDave: well, considering that it's totally different from every other gallery software... it's generally the least shitty one out ther.e |
| 00:11.01 | paw | raidtools2 and mdadm, which is better? |
| 00:11.02 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: what do you have to do to setup apache:gallery? |
| 00:11.17 | abrotman | bob2: martha's vineyard .. my dad has a house there |
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| 00:11.20 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: apt-get install libapache-gallery-perl; read readme, munge apache config appropriately. |
| 00:11.29 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: damn. |
| 00:11.30 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: pretty simple, really... |
| 00:11.32 | root_ | shit. |
| 00:11.37 | abrotman | bob2: one of the islands below the hook on the east coast |
| 00:11.48 | udo | I change my cdrom link and also change the permissions how can I make lrwxrwxwx to be again brw-rw---- ? |
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| 00:11.59 | abrotman | bob2: one of those is my mom's old hosue |
| 00:12.02 | WiFiTux | I was fucked up, by this pc... |
| 00:12.05 | bob2 | abrotman: ah... |
| 00:12.13 | bob2 | abrotman: sadly, I know of it fro mthe x-files |
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| 00:12.16 | PerfDave | dondelelcaro: Of the ones I used, gallery was the least shit, but it was still shit. |
| 00:12.17 | dondelelcaro | udo: uh, your cdrom link will always be lrwxrwxrwx... |
| 00:12.18 | simonrvn | udo: rm, mknod |
| 00:12.24 | abrotman | bob2: my mom's house? |
| 00:12.34 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: http://search.cpan.org/~legart/Apache-Gallery-0.6/ right? |
| 00:12.37 | simonrvn | udo: then it isn't a symlink however |
| 00:12.50 | WiFiTux | dondelelcaro, is that yukon yours? |
| 00:12.51 | bob2 | abrotman: martha's vineyard |
| 00:12.55 | dondelelcaro | PerfDave: yeah, but I'm trying to understand what you didn't like about it... most of the things that it does shittly I've sent patches upstream that have been applied so you can configure it not to suck. |
| 00:13.00 | dondelelcaro | WiFiTux: my brothers |
| 00:13.09 | WiFiTux | dondelelcaro, nice LCD. |
| 00:13.10 | dondelelcaro | WiFiTux: well, it was my brother's before he sold it, anyway... |
| 00:13.39 | abrotman | bob2: ah .. some of those pictures are just funny .. like nutzy :) |
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| 00:13.49 | WiFiTux | dondelelcaro, you are the crazy fellow with long hair? |
| 00:13.52 | rich_ | perfdave have you tried image magic? |
| 00:14.01 | dondelelcaro | WiFiTux: yeah, it's got the in dash dvd+lcd and the over center console lcd... |
| 00:14.07 | bob2 | wow |
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| 00:14.13 | bob2 | firefox really hates those images |
| 00:14.15 | udo | thanks dondelelcaro simonrvn, it's not a real problem |
| 00:14.15 | bob2 | or X doe |
| 00:14.16 | bob2 | s |
| 00:14.25 | abrotman | bob2: i need to smallerize them :) |
| 00:14.34 | Tchiak | What woudl be the safest way to upgrade to 2.4 kernel from the 2.2 kernel when using boot from floppy method? |
| 00:14.37 | WiFiTux | dondelelcaro, cool, I just got one of those in-dash $160 |
| 00:15.12 | bob2 | abrotman: nah, something else has me 500MB into swap |
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| 00:15.24 | simonrvn | @lart slurpd |
| 00:15.24 | abrotman | bob2: ah .. that's no good |
| 00:15.43 | bob2 | I'm not sure how 512MB of ram isn't enough |
| 00:15.48 | bob2 | but apparently it isn't |
| 00:15.54 | dondelelcaro | WiFiTux: heh. I find them to be pretty pointless... but then again, I'm usually wandering around with a powerbook which has a larger LCD than most cars... |
| 00:15.55 | WiFiTux | bob2, for what? |
| 00:16.05 | abrotman | bob2: you like any of them? |
| 00:16.14 | abrotman | WiFiTux: you don't like any either? |
| 00:16.23 | LSorensen | bob2: use kde? |
| 00:16.27 | bob2 | WiFiTux: to stop it swapping |
| 00:16.30 | bob2 | LSorensen: no, gnome |
| 00:16.34 | WiFiTux | abrotman, what do you mean? |
| 00:16.39 | abrotman | WiFiTux: the pictures |
| 00:16.41 | bob2 | abrotman: still looking |
| 00:16.43 | WiFiTux | abrotman, yours? |
| 00:16.46 | LSorensen | bob2: almost as bad. Running any webbrowser? |
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| 00:16.56 | PerfDave | rich_: What's imagemagick got to do with anything? |
| 00:16.56 | LSorensen | bob2: run top, hit M to sort by memory use |
| 00:17.08 | bob2 | LSorensen: firefox, which seems to grow to huge VIRT sizes |
| 00:17.11 | WiFiTux | abrotman, can i have your link again? My crap closed and rebooted... |
| 00:17.12 | rich_ | PerfDave I heard its not shit. |
| 00:17.22 | LSorensen | bob2: sometimes does yes, especially when using certain plugins |
| 00:17.38 | bob2 | 208MB |
| 00:17.43 | bob2 | no plugins on ppc, baybe |
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| 00:18.02 | bob2 | two instance of it, I'd have thought they'd share almost all their memory |
| 00:18.14 | LSorensen | bob2: There should be quite a lot of available firefox plugins even on ppc, just not any of the binary only ones |
| 00:18.26 | LSorensen | bob2: no most of the bloat during running is not shared |
| 00:18.30 | bob2 | LSorensen: well, I'd hope Free ones wouldn't be so buggy |
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| 00:18.34 | bob2 | LSorensen: ah, suck |
| 00:18.44 | jsan | my friends , whats the program is possible to use to migrate my folders postfix to qmail ? |
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| 00:18.48 | bob2 | openoffice is up to 161MB by itself, too |
| 00:18.57 | bob2 | *to* qmail? |
| 00:18.59 | bob2 | you sick puppy. |
| 00:19.05 | holycow | bob2, heh |
| 00:19.29 | holycow | oo.o 1.9 developer snapshots are starting to look good tho |
| 00:19.30 | bob2 | abrotman: hm, rather desolate |
| 00:19.31 | LSorensen | jsan: why would you do that? |
| 00:19.43 | bob2 | abrotman: reminds me of the southern tablelands here |
| 00:19.57 | holycow | when not crashing startup times have already reduced substantially |
| 00:20.05 | abrotman | bob2: which is desolate? |
| 00:20.10 | PerfDave | rich_: Yes, but it's not web gallery software. |
| 00:20.19 | bob2 | abrotman: the first one |
| 00:20.19 | abrotman | bob2: ME? .. that is Mount Desert Island .. Acadia National Park |
| 00:20.26 | bob2 | ah |
| 00:20.27 | rich_ | PerfDave oh. How about paintshop? |
| 00:20.27 | jsan | LSorensen i need migrate the folders create im webmail (openWebmail) to squirreal |
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| 00:20.30 | abrotman | bob2: that's from cadillac mountain there |
| 00:20.53 | abrotman | bob2: one of the first places in .us to see the sun rise |
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| 00:20.56 | suizid | How do I set up aes256 encryption in debian? |
| 00:20.56 | LSorensen | jsan: and that has what to do with qmail? |
| 00:21.06 | suizid | I have the aes module but the max keysize is 32kbits |
| 00:21.20 | bob2 | abrotman: ah |
| 00:21.21 | LSorensen | jsan: most webmail uses an imap backend for simplicity and flexibility |
| 00:21.32 | bob2 | suizid: 32kbits is an insane size for a key |
| 00:21.39 | abrotman | bob2: it's also mostly open to the wind/etc .. and is a glacier scraped island |
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| 00:21.55 | suizid | bob2: You're right. |
| 00:21.59 | bob2 | abrotman: ahh |
| 00:22.02 | jsan | lsorensen I dont understand |
| 00:22.06 | suizid | bob2: /proc/crcpto says max keysize: 32 |
| 00:22.15 | bob2 | abrotman: no glaciers round here in the last 20 000 years or so |
| 00:22.20 | suizid | bob2: I just made up 32k for some stupid reason, sorry |
| 00:22.25 | bob2 | probalby not ever, this far north |
| 00:22.30 | bob2 | suizid: so what is your actual question? |
| 00:22.32 | jsan | sorry my friend my english isnt good |
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| 00:22.39 | LSorensen | jsan: every webmail I have used (squirrel, imp, etc) talk to imap server to get mail and authenticate. what folders you have depend on the imap server. |
| 00:22.42 | abrotman | bob2: well .. they did quite a bit of "damage" |
| 00:22.51 | WiFiTux | abrotman, you fucker!! haha |
| 00:22.52 | suizid | bob2: Well i want stronger encryption. |
| 00:22.55 | LSorensen | jsan: I wouldn't touch a webmail system that tried to access mail folders directly in the filesystem. |
| 00:22.56 | abrotman | WiFiTux: ? |
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| 00:23.07 | WiFiTux | abrotman, your site has a picture that makes my PC crash and reboot. |
| 00:23.26 | xam | WiFiTux: hehe, which one? |
| 00:23.29 | bob2 | suizid: than what? |
| 00:23.30 | abrotman | WiFiTux: there is like 30 500k pictures there |
| 00:23.30 | jcataldo | wow |
| 00:23.33 | bob2 | suizid: and to do what with? |
| 00:23.36 | WiFiTux | abrotman, either it's a fucked up joke, or you are the worst designer. |
| 00:23.48 | LSorensen | jsan: if you try using something like courier then it requires Maildir folders rather than mbox, which exim handles just fine if configured for it. using qmail is just asking for a hasle |
| 00:23.53 | abrotman | WiFiTux: i suspect it's your RAM |
| 00:23.54 | WiFiTux | abrotman, about the 20th or something. |
| 00:23.59 | abrotman | WiFiTux: i've never had it crash anything |
| 00:24.07 | WiFiTux | abrotman, hahahaha 1GB RAM? |
| 00:24.12 | abrotman | WiFiTux: doesn't mean it's not bad |
| 00:24.17 | abrotman | WiFiTux: what browser? |
| 00:24.23 | WiFiTux | abrotman, I wasn't even watching the,. |
| 00:24.38 | WiFiTux | Epiphany |
| 00:24.41 | abrotman | oh dear |
| 00:24.47 | holycow | url? |
| 00:24.52 | holycow | i wanna give it a ring :) |
| 00:24.58 | WiFiTux | abrotman, give the url please! |
| 00:25.14 | suizid | bob2: Ok, I allegedly have a usb pen that is ae256 encrypted (I did it with knoppix). I want to mount it with debian. I type: mount -o encryption=aes256 /dev/sda /media/cdrom, and enter my password. |
| 00:25.20 | jsan | lsorensen my friends , i use courrier-imap to imap server whit format maidir and squirreal whith grafical interface webmail, i user vpopmail to create virtual domains and users |
| 00:25.39 | suizid | bob2: The kernel responds: Invalid argument, requested cipher or key length (256 bits) not supported by kernel |
| 00:25.45 | LSorensen | jsan: doesn't postfix allow Maildir format? |
| 00:25.53 | suizid | bob2: the aes module is loaded |
| 00:25.58 | bob2 | suizid: did you load the aes module? |
| 00:25.59 | bob2 | heh |
| 00:26.03 | bob2 | LSorensen: it does indeed |
| 00:26.04 | WiFiTux | abrotman, I'm going to watch them one by one downloading and see where it hangs. |
| 00:26.11 | abrotman | WiFiTux: sid or sarge? |
| 00:26.17 | LSorensen | bob2: just has to have the config changed a bit I assume? |
| 00:26.24 | WiFiTux | abrotman, Sid |
| 00:26.32 | abrotman | WiFiTux: i have sarge .. loaded the whole thing |
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| 00:26.37 | jsan | yes my postfix doesnt user maildir format , in the mail.cf i dont see this format declared |
| 00:26.40 | WiFiTux | haha |
| 00:26.51 | LSorensen | jsan: well maybe the docs say how to enable support for it |
| 00:27.02 | simonrvn | jsan: doesn't mean it doesn't exist. see your man pages |
| 00:27.09 | LSorensen | jsan: switching to qmail will not make life easier, and besides it's considered non-free by debian |
| 00:27.16 | bob2 | LSorensen: yeah |
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| 00:27.22 | simonrvn | well, it is |
| 00:27.24 | suizid | bob2: I don't seem to have support for "strong encryption"... and I want to know where to get it :) for kernel 2.6.8 (Debian sarge) |
| 00:27.30 | jsan | ilsoresem , is impossible to migrated ? |
| 00:27.36 | jsan | folders |
| 00:27.38 | LSorensen | jsan: from mbox to Maildir? |
| 00:27.41 | bob2 | QOPOPOPOPOPOPOPOPOPOPOPOPOPOPOPOPOPOPOPOPOPOPOP |
| 00:27.44 | docgnome | Whats the command to run XFree config |
| 00:27.47 | bob2 | }oops |
| 00:27.47 | jsan | yes |
| 00:27.49 | suizid | bob2: Even the twofish module says max keysize 32. |
| 00:27.55 | bob2 | docgnome: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 00:27.58 | bob2 | suizid: ignore that |
| 00:28.09 | suizid | :) |
| 00:28.13 | bob2 | keyboard going nuts because of swapping |
| 00:28.15 | simonrvn | bob2: ;) |
| 00:28.19 | suizid | awesome. |
| 00:28.25 | suizid | gotta buy more ram! |
| 00:28.29 | bob2 | yeah |
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| 00:28.36 | jsan | yes lsorensen |
| 00:28.39 | abrotman | bob2: sorry |
| 00:28.41 | docgnome | Why is it that when I run that the radeon driver doesn't show up there? |
| 00:28.43 | bob2 | suizid: hm, I don't know, try asking on the debian-user list |
| 00:28.44 | bob2 | abrotman: hah |
| 00:28.57 | bob2 | abrotman: two copies of firefox + openoffce did it to me |
| 00:29.09 | abrotman | bob2: that's one big document |
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| 00:29.20 | bob2 | abrotman: 200 pages |
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| 00:29.36 | LSorensen | jsan: sure. heck, mutt is good at it. create a Maildir (using maildirmake) called ~/Maildir, then go into mutt and see your mail, then 'T' to tag messages '.' as match, that will tag all, then ;s to save tagged to other folder, folder is =Maildir (tab complete should work) and it will transfer it all to the Maildir folder |
| 00:29.42 | abrotman | bob2: yeah .. i can see that making a dent |
| 00:29.50 | bob2 | abrotman: with ~50 graphs |
| 00:29.56 | abrotman | i think my page crashed wifitux's connection |
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| 00:30.06 | bob2 | actually, I lie, it's spread over 6 documents |
| 00:30.09 | LSorensen | jsan: foreach and procmail can also be used to do it |
| 00:30.21 | LSorensen | jsan: procmail uses Maildir for any folder name ending in '/' |
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| 00:31.03 | suizid | Also the fact that kerneli.org doesn't work isn't helping me find any possible patches I may need. |
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| 00:31.16 | docgnome | Why doesn't the radeon driver show up as an option when i run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86? |
| 00:31.27 | LSorensen | docgnome: it's not just 'ati' ? |
| 00:31.33 | bob2 | suizid: kerneli.org is dead |
| 00:31.35 | simonrvn | docgnome: subset of ati |
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| 00:31.44 | docgnome | LSorensen: there is an ati driver and a radeon driver |
| 00:31.47 | suizid | bob2: Yeah looks that way :( |
| 00:31.52 | simonrvn | docgnome: subset of ati |
| 00:31.58 | LSorensen | docgnome: oh, well I gave up on ati years ago (rage II was the last straw) |
| 00:31.59 | abrotman | WiFiTux: pictures kil your connection? |
| 00:32.03 | docgnome | simonrvn: i thought there were two separate drivers |
| 00:32.09 | abrotman | docgnome: #ati |
| 00:32.16 | simonrvn | docgnome: there is, the ati calls the radeon one |
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| 00:32.23 | docgnome | simonrvn: Hrm. |
| 00:32.25 | simonrvn | docgnome: subset of ati |
| 00:32.50 | dust_ | hi there ! is there a web site which list the name of hardware manufacturers(3d, printer, recorder...) with best linux support ? |
| 00:32.55 | WiFiTux | abrotman, haha, how do you know it is the connection it kills?! 2220 |
| 00:33.08 | docgnome | How do I figure out my cards bus identifyer |
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| 00:33.15 | docgnome | identifier rather |
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| 00:33.28 | abrotman | WiFiTux: i thikn it's a bug in epiphany? .. no konq or opera? |
| 00:33.32 | gast | I could use some ideas; playing around with vnc and Xvfb, but some keyboard press events (like [Backspace]) seem to get filtered. |
| 00:33.44 | WiFiTux | abrotman, I tried Mozilla |
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| 00:33.51 | abrotman | WiFiTux: well duh .. same engine |
| 00:34.02 | toresbe | WTF was that...? |
| 00:34.07 | WiFiTux | abrotman, I know. Really, is not a joke? |
| 00:34.07 | abrotman | lets wake up toresbe |
| 00:34.17 | abrotman | WiFiTux: every other browser i've tried works |
| 00:34.24 | toresbe | I apt-got ntpdate, and it updated the time, and the powersave on my monitor is activated?!?!? |
| 00:34.27 | RaCarter | hello |
| 00:34.31 | WiFiTux | abrotman, I guess i'll try IE tomorrow. |
| 00:34.36 | dondelelcaro | toresbe: yeah, not really a big deal. |
| 00:34.36 | abrotman | toresbe: that makes sense |
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| 00:35.01 | abrotman | i fix that by kill dpms :) |
| 00:35.01 | dondelelcaro | toresbe: if it's a small enough jump, X isn't smart enough to realize what has happened, and lets the monitor activate itself. |
| 00:35.11 | RaCarter | can anyone help me with kde or x? |
| 00:35.16 | toresbe | Hmmm, it just seems strange, does X really use that clock function? |
| 00:35.25 | toresbe | It was a 5 hour difference! |
| 00:35.30 | WiFiTux | RaCarter, problem? |
| 00:35.43 | RaCarter | I can't login to a window manager I get something like xsetroot: unable to open display ' ' |
| 00:36.33 | rich_ | RaCarter before you do it try export DISPLAY=:0.0 |
| 00:37.36 | agraupe | does anyone know if there is a debian package for the pearpc emulator? I cannot find one (synaptic, apt-cache search, packages.debian.org, etc...) and the source code doesn't compile (a configure error, actually) |
| 00:38.03 | dondelelcaro | !info pearpc |
| 00:38.09 | dpkg | pearpc: (Architecture-independent PowerPC platform emulator), section otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.3.1-3 (sid), Packaged size: 301 kB, Installed size: 812 kB |
| 00:38.11 | WiFiTux | what do I have missing here? shutdown -ht 1000 |
| 00:38.35 | RaCarter | I'll be back |
| 00:38.42 | WiFiTux | agraupe, good luck with that crap. pearpc.net |
| 00:38.44 | agraupe | dondelelcaro: how can that be... I just tried apt-get install pearpc and it didn't work |
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| 00:39.04 | dondelelcaro | agraupe: you're running stable, and it's not in stable. Find a backport. |
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| 00:39.16 | l3m_ | agraupe did you apt-get update recently? |
| 00:39.18 | dondelelcaro | WiFiTux: uh, the time at which you want the shutdown to occur. |
| 00:39.19 | agraupe | dondelelcaro: nope, sarge actually |
| 00:39.23 | smj | Anyone here tried Ubuntu? |
| 00:39.25 | dondelelcaro | !info pearpc sarge |
| 00:39.32 | dondelelcaro | !+info pearpc sarge |
| 00:39.34 | dpkg | Package 'pearpc' does not exist. |
| 00:39.35 | WiFiTux | what do I have missing here? shutdown -ht 19:00 ? |
| 00:39.36 | dondelelcaro | NEXT! |
| 00:39.48 | dondelelcaro | WiFiTux: now you're missing the argument to -t. |
| 00:40.00 | agraupe | smj: yes... I like it, but it doesn't have many advantages over debian |
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| 00:40.05 | smj | Sorry, I should have asked dpkg first. |
| 00:40.11 | WiFiTux | what do I have missing here? shutdown -ht 1000 19:00 ? |
| 00:40.24 | smj | agraupe: Thanks for the response. :-) I should have just looked for #ubuntu. |
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| 00:40.48 | guestish | should i use 4kb stacks in the kernel? |
| 00:40.55 | dondelelcaro | WiFiTux: that's correct... but that'll only shutdown at 19:00, which has probably already passed. |
| 00:40.58 | WiFiTux | dondelelcaro, I think that will do it. |
| 00:41.00 | smj | agraupe: Yeah, I'm not seeing where it will tear me away from Sarge. It looks like someone thought the world needed a Debian distro that releases like Fedora Core. |
| 00:41.03 | rich_ | guestish do you use nvidia? |
| 00:41.04 | agraupe | dondelelcaro: what version is it in then? |
| 00:41.08 | guestish | rich_: yes |
| 00:41.08 | dondelelcaro | agraupe: only unstable. |
| 00:41.18 | WiFiTux | dondelelcaro, not here. 18:41.. thanks!! |
| 00:41.24 | agraupe | dondelelcaro: ah... I see |
| 00:41.24 | dondelelcaro | agraupe: most likely because the maintainer feels that it's unfit for release. |
| 00:41.43 | guestish | rich_: does that make a difference? |
| 00:41.57 | rich_ | guestish I heard rumors that nvidia had problems with 4k stacks. But you should make sure, because it might depend on which driver you use |
| 00:42.06 | rich_ | guestish Or which one you need. |
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| 00:42.12 | uber_fish | hey, im getting an error while compiling mysql imposting the error in #flood for anyone who wants to help me out, i have tried to alter the source to no avail |
| 00:42.15 | WiFiTux | smj, you will only look geeker |
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| 00:42.32 | guestish | does 4kb stacks even make a difference? |
| 00:42.38 | smj | WiFiTux: Awesome! |
| 00:42.39 | dondelelcaro | uber_fish: why are you compiling mysql instead of just installing the .deb? |
| 00:42.47 | zinx | uber_: if you're compiling mysql, you aren't using debian ;) |
| 00:42.52 | WiFiTux | smj, hehe I guess., |
| 00:43.01 | uber_fish | dondelelcaro, well the issue comes with php |
| 00:43.15 | dondelelcaro | uber_fish: so? apt-get install php4 php4-mysql mysql-server; |
| 00:43.18 | uber_fish | dondelelcaro, php no longer includes mysql libraries for integration |
| 00:43.18 | smj | You know, it looks like we're down to something like 12 release critical bugs for Sarge... That's f**king awesome! |
| 00:43.32 | rich_ | guestish only for a very few things, and Im afraid I heard some of the nvidea drivers are one of them |
| 00:43.36 | dondelelcaro | uber_fish: of course, which is why php4-mysql depends on libmysqlclient0. |
| 00:43.37 | zinx | uber_fish: *cough* BS *cough* |
| 00:43.44 | cire | I have a machine running debian 2.6.8. I want to install vlc, without any X parts. It shall only be run as a servant for video streams. Is this possible? |
| 00:43.45 | dondelelcaro | s/0/10/ |
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| 00:44.43 | guestish | rich_: in general though, is using 4kb stacks better? |
| 00:44.50 | uber_fish | dondelelcaro, i have apt-get install php4-mysql but mysql_connect() still doesnt work |
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| 00:45.01 | cire | and if yes: how? |
| 00:45.07 | dondelelcaro | uber_fish: then you don't have a mysql server installed. |
| 00:45.24 | dondelelcaro | uber_fish: if php_info() shows the mysql libraries as loaded, then they're working properly. |
| 00:45.37 | uber_fish | dondelelcaro, really, i used mysqlcc to make a database |
| 00:45.39 | pipeline | cire: Nope. You have to have X libraries. But you could try vls. |
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| 00:46.08 | pipeline | cire: XLibs don't really take up that much space anyway, I don't see why you would object to having them. Note that you don't have to have an X server, just libs. |
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| 00:46.31 | rich_ | guestish I dont know. The theory is that it saves 4k of memory per stack, and if they run out, they can get it from somewhere else. And so much changed so quickly with the 2.6 kernel that I cant tell whether 4k stacks made things faster or not |
| 00:46.42 | cire | ...if this is the wrong channel to ask: tell me. |
| 00:46.43 | smj | agraupe: Looks like I got no choices on what I wanted to install here. I'm not seeing any reason to give up Sarge at the moment. |
| 00:46.47 | guestish | rich_: oh |
| 00:46.54 | uber_fish | dondelelcaro, yeah php_info() does not show mysql info |
| 00:47.18 | darsie | Are there modutils for 2.6 kernels in debian? |
| 00:47.18 | uber_fish | even though i installed php4-mysql |
| 00:47.21 | abrotman | cire: it is .. but it's not recommended .. it maybe be easier to just install it .. and not start X on boot |
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| 00:47.35 | abrotman | darsie: like modconf? |
| 00:47.38 | docgnome | How do I figure out my cards bus identifier? |
| 00:47.44 | nvs | darsie: module-init-tools |
| 00:47.46 | darsie | docgnome: like modprobe |
| 00:47.54 | abrotman | module-init-tools |
| 00:48.05 | darsie | thx |
| 00:48.07 | pipeline | docgnome: Usually you can just hit enter. |
| 00:48.14 | abrotman | docgnome: for X? .. normally don't need it |
| 00:48.15 | pipeline | docgnome: i.e. usually it doesn't matter. |
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| 00:48.32 | dondelelcaro | uber_fish: then your php.ini is screwed, and is not loading the php4-mysql module. |
| 00:48.48 | abrotman | remove the ; |
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| 00:50.10 | uber_fish | hrm |
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