| 00:00.01 | Tchiak | go into modprobe again |
| 00:00.04 | Tchiak | look for a mixer module in there |
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| 00:00.55 | resiak | http://images.slashdot.org/topics/topicwindows.gif (obviously, mine wouldn't be broken.) |
| 00:01.12 | zignig | t-jack: you need to be root ( unless you have rwx ) on /dev/dsp. |
| 00:01.58 | InKubus | ok i have a pcmcia dongle that's actually a serial adapter at the other end |
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| 00:02.08 | InKubus | how would i make pppd listen on that? |
| 00:02.32 | Tchiak | can't remember if 2.6.8 requires an audio group |
| 00:02.40 | DrPete | Is there anything bad about compiling a kernel using make-kpkg -rev Custom.1 kernel_image |
| 00:03.07 | Tchiak | well if it comes out as a serial device it would be /dev/ttyS0 |
| 00:03.09 | Tchiak | or somethign like taht |
| 00:03.23 | Tchiak | check your dmesg to find out exactly which S port the modem is responding as |
| 00:04.02 | InKubus | doesn't look like 0 |
| 00:04.19 | t-jack | zignig: I'm USING root... |
| 00:04.32 | zignig | t-jack: ok :) , just one thing to check |
| 00:04.49 | t-jack | Tchiak: den:~# ls /lib/modules/2.6.8-1-686/kernel/* |grep mixer |
| 00:04.49 | t-jack | den:~# |
| 00:05.03 | Tchiak | ummm |
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| 00:05.12 | t-jack | Tchiak: I have no mixer modules. |
| 00:05.12 | InKubus | hmm it's actually configured as eth0 is the card |
| 00:05.13 | Tchiak | why not just browse through modprobe under sound? |
| 00:05.33 | Tchiak | for something that has a discription of a mixer |
| 00:05.38 | Tchiak | generall OSS or something to the like |
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| 00:09.04 | Tchiak | uy |
| 00:09.13 | cypha | rawr |
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| 00:11.01 | InKubus | what device should i be using for pppd? |
| 00:11.14 | t-jack | Tchiak: I now have snd 57156 10 snd_emu10k1,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_ac97_codec,snd_util_mem,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mixer_oss and no sound, no mixer. |
| 00:12.09 | t-jack | Tchiak: You said it was easy to set up. |
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| 00:12.56 | jason_ | I need help mounting my cdrom |
| 00:13.09 | jason_ | I am using sid |
| 00:13.19 | narcmann | t-jack: whats the situation |
| 00:13.25 | techie | #/mnt/cdrom0 |
| 00:14.02 | techie | need help with xserver |
| 00:14.14 | jason_ | I have an almost perfectly working Debian Sid installation with the latest kernel image and everyting works except I can't mount CDs. |
| 00:14.14 | jason_ | I've tried: |
| 00:14.14 | jason_ | mount -t iso9660 /dev/hda /media/cdrom |
| 00:14.14 | jason_ | mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /media/cdrom |
| 00:14.14 | jason_ | mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdd /media/cdrom |
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| 00:14.31 | Tchiak | @_@ |
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| 00:14.41 | Tchiak | jason |
| 00:14.44 | kisielk | please don't spam the channel |
| 00:14.46 | jason_ | sorry |
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| 00:14.52 | jason_ | did anybody read that? |
| 00:14.52 | Tchiak | what freaking device is your cdrom attached to? |
| 00:14.57 | Tchiak | do dmesg > bob |
| 00:15.00 | jason_ | I don't know |
| 00:15.01 | Tchiak | and then edit bob |
| 00:15.03 | t-jack | narcmann: AudigyLS soundcard kernel-image 2.6.8 .deb Sid Trying to enable card with alsa functionality. I now have snd 57156 10 snd_emu10k1,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_ac97_codec,snd_util_mem,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mixer_oss and no sound, no mixer. |
| 00:15.05 | jason_ | I assume /dev/hda |
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| 00:15.08 | kisielk | there's 775 other people here who probably want to talk :P |
| 00:15.08 | Tchiak | look in there for the the device it's attached to |
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| 00:15.12 | kisielk | uh no |
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| 00:15.16 | Tchiak | no /hda is usually the first harddrive |
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| 00:15.20 | alexscott | re |
| 00:15.22 | kisielk | unless you're using SCSI |
| 00:15.28 | jason_ | I only have SATA drives |
| 00:15.29 | narcmann | t-jack: alsactl bitches that you have no mixer elem? |
| 00:15.49 | kisielk | or SATA |
| 00:15.53 | kisielk | what do SATA drives show up as ? |
| 00:15.59 | jason_ | /dev/sda |
| 00:16.00 | narcmann | look in dmesg, it will say |
| 00:16.15 | t-jack | narcmann: alsactl: load_state:1134: No soundcards found... |
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| 00:17.30 | Tchiak | t-jack did you get the sound core module? |
| 00:17.36 | narcmann | heh |
| 00:17.38 | Tchiak | it's seperate from the other one |
| 00:18.25 | Tchiak | ok just type dmesg |
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| 00:19.07 | t-jack | Tchiak: soundcore enabled |
| 00:19.20 | tony | I have three nics in a debian machine |
| 00:19.41 | tony | how do I define which NIC get's dhcp? |
| 00:19.58 | narcmann | t-jack: if you lsmod, it should list a sound modile next to soundcore |
| 00:20.11 | narcmann | /etc/network/interfaces |
| 00:20.32 | narcmann | tony: then you can use the ifup/ifdown commands with those interfaces |
| 00:20.54 | tony | I don't mean as dhcp clients, I mean as 'server' |
| 00:21.07 | t-jack | grep: dmesg: No such file or directory |
| 00:21.25 | t-jack | I keep telling you people grep is broken. |
| 00:21.32 | narcmann | how is grep broken |
| 00:21.34 | narcmann | ... |
| 00:21.38 | Tchiak | i don't use grep |
| 00:21.42 | Tchiak | i just do dmesg > bob |
| 00:21.47 | Tchiak | and it loads everything into bob |
| 00:21.58 | narcmann | bob is awesome |
| 00:22.12 | Tchiak | yes |
| 00:22.13 | Tchiak | bob is |
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| 00:22.38 | narcmann | hehe |
| 00:23.08 | nvz | oh well, going to watch CSI, rest my typing arm awhile ;) talk to you all in about an hour |
| 00:23.15 | marmot | tony, /etc/network/interfaces |
| 00:23.33 | narcmann | csi is over i think, no? |
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| 00:23.53 | nvz | narcmann: season 5 I belive. new episode on in like 40min |
| 00:23.57 | narcmann | awesome |
| 00:24.03 | nvz | narcmann: watvhing old ones right now |
| 00:24.08 | narcmann | nvz: i caught like 10 minutes of the episode that was just on |
| 00:24.21 | narcmann | nvz: some volcano science project bomb thing, i wasn't paying much attention |
| 00:24.23 | t-jack | Tchiak: OK soundcard not listed |
| 00:24.31 | Tchiak | @_@ |
| 00:24.41 | nvz | I dont watch tv, havent really watched it in years.. but since I've been here, they got me watching it again.. I can take CSI.. its not completly stupid like some of the other things on TV |
| 00:24.56 | narcmann | I never watch tv, only if someone else has it on |
| 00:24.59 | Tchiak | ok |
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| 00:25.06 | Tchiak | umm soundcard not listed? |
| 00:25.08 | narcmann | then i get sucked into the glowing box of doom |
| 00:25.08 | Tchiak | in what context? |
| 00:25.16 | nvz | heh |
| 00:25.18 | t-jack | dmesg |
| 00:25.31 | nvz | yeah it'll rot your mind.. it cant suck me in.. I dont believe in it |
| 00:25.34 | Tchiak | no t-jack that was just a mislocated type |
| 00:25.34 | t-jack | Tchiak: OK soundcard not listed in dmesg |
| 00:26.05 | t-jack | A what? |
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| 00:26.54 | rich_ | We mostly just watch comedy on tv. My wife likes to draw people and cartoons that she see's on tv. |
| 00:27.13 | narcmann | anyone know where I can get a strong crypto patch for 2.6.8? the kernel only seems to support 32bit keylengths |
| 00:27.41 | t-jack | Tchiak no t-jack that was just a mislocated type |
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| 00:27.48 | t-jack | Tchiak: A what? |
| 00:28.07 | Tchiak | t-jac |
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| 00:28.13 | Tchiak | it means i meant to type that in a query window |
| 00:28.16 | Tchiak | not in the chanel |
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| 00:28.36 | t-jack | Oh |
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| 00:29.44 | t-jack | Tchiak: Suggestion? |
| 00:29.46 | narcmann | this song is awesome, dirty love by Frank Zappa |
| 00:29.47 | imad | hi guys. I want to do an IO bentchmark for the HDs on my server. Is there a good tool out there for this? How should I go about doing it. any suggestions? I run Debian stable. |
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| 00:30.12 | rich_ | yea zappa rocks |
| 00:30.17 | Tchiak | go through every module in the sound directory of modprobe and try to load all of them |
| 00:30.33 | t-jack | Tchiak: Say what? |
| 00:30.46 | narcmann | haha |
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| 00:31.19 | t-jack | narcmann: Yellow Snow, all I know, of all the crap from Zap. |
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| 00:31.34 | relex | does anyone know where external usb drives are mounted by default |
| 00:31.40 | relex | like /dev/usb/??? |
| 00:31.54 | narcmann | should be /dev/sd** |
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| 00:32.11 | relex | thanks |
| 00:32.14 | rich_ | I know a lot of zappa. bobby brown, montana, cosmic debris, lots of great stuff |
| 00:32.16 | relex | how can i find out which one? |
| 00:32.20 | narcmann | relex: tail your messages file and then hook it up and see what happens |
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| 00:33.09 | Guerin | imad: hdparm -Tt /dev/hd? |
| 00:33.34 | Guerin | imad: it's pretty simple. Otherwise use bonnie++ or somesuch |
| 00:33.52 | thomas_adam | Or just buy a new HD. |
| 00:34.06 | blafard | my ibook (2.6.8) goes to sleep or spins down and fails to come back up if I'm running on battery and I close the lid; I've disabled apm, pbbuttonsd, and so on, but it still happens. I can't find anything in the logs. Can anyone tell me where to look? |
| 00:34.10 | imad | Guerin: great. I will look at these |
| 00:34.18 | thomas_adam | blafard: ACPI. |
| 00:34.23 | t-jack | rich_: All the Bobby Brown stuff I know... Mr Telephone Man, My Perogative, smack that bitch up. |
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| 00:34.26 | narcmann | relex: it will say something like kernel:Attached scsi removable disk sd** at yada yada |
| 00:34.29 | blafard | thomas_adam, I'm not using acpi. |
| 00:34.43 | thomas_adam | blafard: Then it must be your BIOS. |
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| 00:35.01 | rich_ | t-jack Oh. I just meant the song bobby brown. I dont know the whole album |
| 00:35.15 | blafard | thomas_adam, can you tell me how to change bios settings on a macintosh ibook? |
| 00:35.27 | thomas_adam | blafard: No, that's why you're going to use google. |
| 00:35.30 | narcmann | Give me, your dirty love |
| 00:35.50 | t-jack | rich_: Oh all Zappa songs. I thought you meants the rapper Bobby Brown. :) |
| 00:35.51 | blafard | thomas_adam, I have been searching google for this problem for a number of weeks. |
| 00:35.53 | narcmann | Like you might surrender to the dragon in your dreams |
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| 00:35.56 | narcmann | Give me, your dirty love |
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| 00:36.01 | Ox0F0-0FF | how much is paid an IT consultant in USA ? |
| 00:36.05 | Ox0F0-0FF | per hour |
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| 00:36.14 | narcmann | Like a pink donation to the dragon in your dreams |
| 00:36.16 | SouL-FoRTuNe | hello |
| 00:36.17 | SouL-FoRTuNe | root@gibbo:~# dpkg-reconfigure courier-authdaemon |
| 00:36.17 | SouL-FoRTuNe | /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: courier-authdaemon is not fully installed |
| 00:36.22 | SouL-FoRTuNe | when i try to apt-get install or remove it |
| 00:36.23 | SouL-FoRTuNe | it wont let me |
| 00:36.33 | SouL-FoRTuNe | it says its at the newest version trying to install |
| 00:36.35 | narcmann | I don' need your sweet devotion, and i don' tneed your cheap emotion, whip me up some dragon lotion for your dirty love |
| 00:36.37 | rich_ | 'my guitar wants to kill your moma' |
| 00:36.41 | blafard | thomas_adam, as far as I can tell, bios is called open firmware and is not well documented. |
| 00:36.44 | Tchiak | dpkg --configure --pending Soul |
| 00:36.44 | dpkg | i don't know, Tchiak |
| 00:36.53 | Tchiak | SouL-FoRTuNe: dpkg --configure --pending |
| 00:36.58 | SouL-FoRTuNe | and gets errors removing |
| 00:37.04 | SouL-FoRTuNe | root@gibbo:~# dpkg --configure --pending |
| 00:37.04 | SouL-FoRTuNe | root@gibbo:~# |
| 00:37.10 | narcmann | your dirty love! |
| 00:37.14 | t-jack | Tchiak: Any suggestions for my soundcard? |
| 00:37.29 | Guerin | narcmann: /j #dirtylove |
| 00:37.29 | SouL-FoRTuNe | what should i do? |
| 00:37.30 | narcmann | t-jack: Did you try to load all the modules in your snd folder? |
| 00:37.46 | narcmann | Geurin: nobody in dirtylove :( |
| 00:38.00 | Guerin | narcmann: here's your opportunity to start a new community. |
| 00:38.01 | thomas_adam | SouL-FoRTuNe: you might try: dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq |
| 00:38.12 | SouL-FoRTuNe | k |
| 00:38.21 | michal | anyone aware of any software that can view c code bitmaps as images? |
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| 00:38.34 | SouL-FoRTuNe | dpkg: need an action option |
| 00:38.34 | dpkg | SouL-FoRTuNe: I give up, what is it? |
| 00:38.42 | t-jack | narcmann: I did. |
| 00:38.47 | narcmann | "I'll just put you in a coma with some dirty love." |
| 00:38.50 | narcmann | t-jack: and? |
| 00:38.52 | thomas_adam | SouL-FoRTuNe: Sorry, I thought maybe you were going to engage your brain. |
| 00:38.59 | t-jack | narcmann: It didn't. |
| 00:38.59 | SouL-FoRTuNe | root@gibbo:~# dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq |
| 00:39.00 | SouL-FoRTuNe | dpkg: need an action option |
| 00:39.00 | dpkg | SouL-FoRTuNe: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 00:39.04 | SouL-FoRTuNe | what do you mean? |
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| 00:39.08 | narcmann | t-jack: it didn't what |
| 00:39.11 | SouL-FoRTuNe | i dont know much about dpkg |
| 00:39.16 | SouL-FoRTuNe | ive never had problems like this before |
| 00:39.36 | t-jack | narcmann: It didn't enable mixer access. |
| 00:40.25 | t-jack | narcmann: And now I have alsa mixed with oss drivers. Nothing will work. |
| 00:40.45 | narcmann | t-jack: what kinda card you got |
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| 00:41.01 | zeeeee | hi all, if anybody here uses unison, how do you tell it to synchronize a path using a (simple) regex (eg *.txt)? the docs say 'path' is a literal but with things like 'ignore' and 'follow' using regexes, surely there must be a way to specify what to accept using regex... |
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| 00:41.19 | t-jack | narcmann: I already said audigyls :) |
| 00:41.22 | SouL-FoRTuNe | thomas_adam: can you help me? |
| 00:41.29 | crn | list |
| 00:41.31 | thomas_adam | SouL-FoRTuNe: No. |
| 00:41.35 | SouL-FoRTuNe | :\ why not? |
| 00:41.43 | thomas_adam | SouL-FoRTuNe: Because you're lazy. |
| 00:41.47 | SouL-FoRTuNe | no im not |
| 00:41.50 | SouL-FoRTuNe | i dont know what the fuck to do |
| 00:41.51 | Guerin | #debian helps those who help themselves |
| 00:42.11 | t-jack | narcmann: AudigyLS |
| 00:42.13 | thomas_adam | SouL-FoRTuNe: man dpkg, at least _find_ the option I pointed you yo. |
| 00:42.18 | thomas_adam | s/yo/to/ |
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| 00:42.20 | SouL-FoRTuNe | i just did that |
| 00:42.30 | narcmann | t-jack: is there module listed to the right of soundcore in lsmod? |
| 00:42.41 | Guerin | SouL-FoRTuNe: your dpkg command no verb |
| 00:42.47 | thomas_adam | SouL-FoRTuNe: Ok, now get the package name.... maybe append it to the end of the command. |
| 00:42.56 | SouL-FoRTuNe | i tried that |
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| 00:43.05 | SouL-FoRTuNe | root@gibbo:~# dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq courier-authdaemon |
| 00:43.05 | SouL-FoRTuNe | dpkg: need an action option |
| 00:43.05 | dpkg | SouL-FoRTuNe: I give up, what is it? |
| 00:43.08 | blafard | my ibook (2.6.8) goes to sleep or spins down and fails to come back up if I'm running on battery and I close the lid; I've disabled apm, pbbuttonsd, and so on, but it still happens. I can't find anything in the logs or on the internet. People keep telling me it's a bios issue but I can't find any documentation for the bios, nor any evidence of others having had the same issue. Can anyone give me a hint? |
| 00:43.18 | |XO2| | are there any scripts/programs that i can use to simply check a password against the system password... |
| 00:43.19 | t-jack | narcmann: soundcore 10336 2 sound,snd |
| 00:43.20 | Guerin | SouL-FoRTuNe: READ THE FUCKING ERROR, it's in plain english ffs |
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| 00:43.31 | SouL-FoRTuNe | whats an action option |
| 00:44.09 | Guerin | |XO2|: is a good one |
| 00:44.09 | idnar | SouL-FoRTuNe: something like --purge or --install |
| 00:44.09 | Guerin | |XO2|: login, I should say, is a good one |
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| 00:44.10 | Guerin | SouL-FoRTuNe: it's an action - what you want dpkg to do, ffs |
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| 00:44.19 | SouL-FoRTuNe | ok i tried that |
| 00:44.21 | SouL-FoRTuNe | that cant remove it either |
| 00:44.46 | RichiH | |XO2|: cat /etc/shadow | grep <user> | grep `md5sum <password>` |
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| 00:45.40 | thomas_adam | RichiH: UUoC |
| 00:45.50 | SouL-FoRTuNe | :\ |
| 00:45.58 | SouL-FoRTuNe | thomas, that cmd you gave me wont remove it |
| 00:46.02 | SouL-FoRTuNe | it gives me the same errors as before |
| 00:46.11 | SouL-FoRTuNe | with just "apt-get remove courier-authdaemon" |
| 00:46.25 | thomas_adam | SouL-FoRTuNe: Why don't you be a good little soul and paste them to #flood, hmm? |
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| 00:46.26 | t-jack | narcmann: soundcore 10336 2 sound,snd |
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| 00:47.04 | tineb | anyone else having problems getting netkit-inetd installed in sid? did an upgrade and it bombs out with dpkg --configure returned error exit status 1 |
| 00:47.05 | MasterYoda | say I am trying to install debian in a chroot on a rhel server |
| 00:47.18 | MasterYoda | would I be correct saying debbootstrap is the right way to do this? |
| 00:47.22 | RichiH | !uuoc |
| 00:47.22 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, uuoc is Useless Use of Cat Award. Given out for years by Randal Schwartz on the newsgroup comp.unix.shell. Basically, most constructions that look like "cat filename | grep pattern" can be more easily written as "grep pattern filename". Works for grep and most other Unix utilities. Easier to type and marginally more efficient. |
| 00:47.24 | Guerin | I am trying to install debian in a chroot on a rhel server |
| 00:47.37 | RichiH | thomas_adam: i know. i still like it that way |
| 00:47.37 | t-jack | narcmann: Still there? |
| 00:48.02 | MasterYoda | I won't need any kernel as the environment will just be chrooted to when needed. Can debbootstrap do what I need? |
| 00:48.13 | Guerin | SouL-FoRTuNe: READ the fucking error |
| 00:48.16 | thomas_adam | MasterYoda: Yes. |
| 00:48.18 | MasterYoda | say why the heck is dpkg acting so stupid |
| 00:48.21 | SouL-FoRTuNe | i did read it |
| 00:48.22 | thomas_adam | Guerin: cdeboostrap |
| 00:48.24 | SouL-FoRTuNe | i get the same error when i do |
| 00:48.25 | SouL-FoRTuNe | dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq --purge courier-authdaemon |
| 00:48.25 | dpkg | i haven't a clue, SouL-FoRTuNe |
| 00:48.26 | Guerin | SouL-FoRTuNe: especially this line: /etc/courier/authdaemonrc: No such file or directory |
| 00:48.32 | SouL-FoRTuNe | yeah i know |
| 00:48.37 | Shnufine | Hello, I had a damaged partition on my system, I repaired it as much as possible, but now I've to mount it and this doesn't work... It tells me wrong Filesystemtype and Superblock from /dev/hda6 is damaged |
| 00:48.42 | SouL-FoRTuNe | it wants that file but i dont know whats susposed to be int hat fikle |
| 00:48.43 | Guerin | thomas_adam: haha, no, he told me to say it, so I said it |
| 00:48.49 | thomas_adam | Guerin: Oh. |
| 00:48.51 | MasterYoda | thomas_adam: where can I find more docs on debbootstrap, and how can I install it on my rhel system (im guessing that's in the docs to) |
| 00:48.51 | Guerin | MasterYoda is the one with rhel issues |
| 00:49.05 | thomas_adam | MasterYoda: It's not hard. |
| 00:49.21 | MasterYoda | thomas_adam: so cdebootstrap or just debbootstrap? |
| 00:49.24 | SouL-FoRTuNe | ok i finally got the bitch off |
| 00:49.30 | Guerin | SouL-FoRTuNe: it doesn't care what's in that file; it just cares that that file exists. Why did you delete it? |
| 00:49.35 | thomas_adam | SouL-FoRTuNe: You mean you used your brain? |
| 00:49.40 | MasterYoda | thomas_adam: I will not need a kernel, or any mbr mangling, just a base debian system that will run in a chroot |
| 00:49.41 | t-jack | narcmann: Still there? |
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| 00:50.30 | Guerin | MasterYoda: kernel has nothing to do with it. Your debian chroot will be a userspace entity. |
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| 00:51.08 | Shnufine | What are you thinking about mke2fs -S for creating new superblock backups ? |
| 00:51.17 | thomas_adam | MasterYoda: http://twiki.iwethey.org/Main/DebianChrootInstall |
| 00:51.17 | MasterYoda | Guerin: so should I use cdebootstrap or debootstrap? |
| 00:51.24 | jason_ | I can't mount my cdrom |
| 00:51.25 | thomas_adam | MasterYoda: waffle, waffle. |
| 00:51.27 | MasterYoda | much thanks |
| 00:51.41 | thomas_adam | MasterYoda: That's Ok. I'm usually a bitch for google. |
| 00:52.16 | thomas_adam | jason_: Rephrase that, please. |
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| 00:53.01 | Encryon | hie |
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| 00:53.24 | jason_ | debian:/# mount -t iso9660 /dev/sda /media/cdrom1 |
| 00:53.24 | jason_ | mount: mount point /media/cdrom1 does not exist |
| 00:53.29 | slyphon | hey, how do i add a .ttf to my system using defoma? |
| 00:53.50 | jason_ | umount /dev/sda |
| 00:53.50 | jason_ | umount: /dev/sda: not mounted |
| 00:54.07 | Guerin | !plain english is <reply>Just read the fucking error, it's in plain english! |
| 00:54.07 | dpkg | Guerin: okay |
| 00:54.17 | mathieu | jason_, mkdir -p /media/cdrom1 |
| 00:54.18 | slyphon | jason_: you don't umount a /dev |
| 00:54.23 | jason_ | opps |
| 00:54.24 | Guerin | !plain english $1 is <reply>$1: just read the fucking error, it's in plain english! |
| 00:54.24 | dpkg | okay, Guerin |
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| 00:54.45 | slyphon | anyone defoma? ttf files? |
| 00:54.47 | jason_ | mount -t iso9660 /dev/sda /media/cdrom0 |
| 00:54.48 | jason_ | mount: /dev/sda already mounted or /media/cdrom0 busy |
| 00:54.49 | jason_ | there |
| 00:54.52 | jkk | why would i install exim and courier-imap? |
| 00:55.04 | MasterYoda | what is the diff between debootstrap and cdebootstrap? |
| 00:55.12 | Encryon | one person can help me for update my webmin because i have a probleme with the module |
| 00:55.20 | Guerin | jkk: because you want to run an imap server? |
| 00:55.21 | jkk | i thought exim was an alternative for imap? |
| 00:55.24 | scarynetworkguy | Encryon: don't use webmin |
| 00:55.33 | MasterYoda | jkk: exim is smtp |
| 00:55.34 | jason_ | umount /media/cdrom0 |
| 00:55.34 | jason_ | umount: /media/cdrom0: not mounted |
| 00:55.35 | Guerin | jkk: whatever made you think that? |
| 00:55.40 | MasterYoda | jkk: like sendmail |
| 00:55.41 | thomas_adam | jason_: Well, you tell me what you think is wrong with it. You either want to umount /media/cdrom0 or use mount --bind. i suspect the former. |
| 00:55.43 | jkk | no idea |
| 00:55.46 | Guerin | jason_: stop pasting |
| 00:55.59 | Guerin | jason_: lsof |grep /dev/sda |
| 00:56.06 | jkk | i thought both were just MTAs? |
| 00:56.07 | Encryon | scarynetworkguy:oki why it's very bad ? |
| 00:56.19 | Guerin | jason_: see what's using that device, where it's mounted, etc. |
| 00:56.23 | thomas_adam | jason_: At least remove 'discover' and change /etc/fstab to use /cdrom and /floppy for removable media. It's a PITFA. |
| 00:56.26 | Guerin | jkk: whatever made you think that? |
| 00:56.31 | jkk | grr |
| 00:56.36 | Guerin | !tell jkk about mail tutorial |
| 00:56.37 | thomas_adam | jason_: use 'lsof' |
| 00:56.37 | jason_ | lsof |grep /dev/sda didnt do anything |
| 00:56.51 | t-jack | narcmann: Still there? |
| 00:56.52 | thomas_adam | jason_: does 'mount' show the device mounted? |
| 00:56.52 | scarynetworkguy | Encryon: not if you don't mind gimping the fuck out of yourself |
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| 00:57.12 | jkk | ok |
| 00:57.13 | jason_ | no it doesnt |
| 00:57.15 | jkk | dank je |
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| 00:57.35 | thomas_adam | jason_: echo $(pwd) |
| 00:57.38 | jason_ | it is almost as if my kernel doesnt have cdrom support but it is an official debian kernel image |
| 00:57.44 | Guerin | jason_: what about /media/cdrom0 ? |
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| 00:57.51 | Encryon | scarynetworkguy : ok ok :) i go work with my nano :) |
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| 00:58.21 | osiris | hello all. |
| 00:58.27 | jason_ | "/" |
| 00:58.31 | t-jack | narcmann: Fuck off. |
| 00:58.32 | jason_ | thomas_adam |
| 00:58.39 | thomas_adam | jason_: Ok. |
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| 00:58.59 | osiris | has anyone had any trouble playing movies in debian mine keep on going out of sync. ive tried a few differant players |
| 00:59.13 | Guerin | osiris: don't scale in software. |
| 00:59.19 | kaplanfx | osiris: you sure the movies not out of sync? |
| 00:59.32 | kaplanfx | movie is not I mean |
| 00:59.46 | kaplanfx | also, are you using kde with arts? arts can make the audio lag |
| 00:59.46 | osiris | no the movie is not outof sync |
| 00:59.55 | osiris | im using gnome |
| 01:00.09 | kaplanfx | hmm, I don't know about the gnome sound server |
| 01:00.13 | osiris | guerin what did you mean? |
| 01:00.39 | Tarka | osiris: What player are you using for starters |
| 01:00.50 | Guerin | osiris: your video is, say, 320x240 pixels. if you scale it up to 1024x768 pixels to view it fullscreen, that requires a huge amount of cpu time. |
| 01:00.53 | osiris | ive tried ogle and xine also vlc |
| 01:00.55 | blafard | maybe this is a silly question: when I start kde, the startup screen with the progress bar is not centered and is very large, as if it thought I was using a different resolution. Once KDE starts, there is no problem. Why would this happen? |
| 01:01.05 | t-jack | Anyone know why dmesg fails to read my soundcard, yet lspci shows it active? Anyone know why I cannot start any mixers? |
| 01:01.22 | Tarka | With xine try giving the command-line -Vxv |
| 01:01.26 | Guerin | osiris: the solution is to play video at or near its native resolution, and scale your display resolution down to fit ite |
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| 01:01.33 | MrP | Hello |
| 01:01.38 | scarynetworkguy | t-jack: whad does lsmod show? are you in the audio group? |
| 01:01.54 | MrP | Anyone have any idea as to why when I launch any program with Wine, it just keeps spawning and spawning until I do a killall wine? I know it is my fault, I just want to fix it. I was having problems with it, so I was going to do a clean install, but I forgot about using apt to do it and I just went and deleted anything related to wine. Once I reinstalled, it did this. Any ideas? |
| 01:02.20 | osiris | ok ill try that guerin its just last time i watched the same movie on debian months ago it was ok but i have done a clean install since |
| 01:02.28 | MrP | After reinstalling, I used apt to uninstall, and I tried installing again, with the same results |
| 01:02.45 | Guerin | MrP: did you use --purge? |
| 01:03.10 | t-jack | scarynetworkguy: groupfile audio:x:29:t-jack |
| 01:03.28 | Agrajag- | anyone konw if it's possible to install latest testing onto a external usb mass storage device? |
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| 01:03.37 | Guerin | Agrajag-: anything's possible |
| 01:03.51 | t-jack | scarynetworkguy: lsmod snd 57156 10 snd_emu10k1,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_ac97_codec,snd_util_mem,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mixer_oss |
| 01:03.57 | Guerin | !fuck t-jack |
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| 01:04.01 | MrP | Guerin: No. I'm assuming you mean when uninstalling it? |
| 01:04.06 | Guerin | MrP: yeah |
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| 01:04.23 | Guerin | MrP: --purge nukes all config; try that. |
| 01:04.30 | t-jack | !fuck t-jack again |
| 01:04.38 | Guerin | MrP: also check the BTS for bugreports. |
| 01:04.41 | Agrajag- | ok, this device also has firewire, which would make the install a lot faster - does that come under the "anything" category in "anything's possible"? |
| 01:04.55 | t-jack | !Did you like it? |
| 01:05.01 | Guerin | Agrajag-: some things are more possible than others. |
| 01:05.05 | MrP | Guerin: Like I said, it was probaby my fault. It worked before I started messing around with it. Then I just plain deleted it and that is probably what did it |
| 01:05.07 | Tarka | t-jack: Also delete ~/.wine if you can |
| 01:05.09 | Agrajag- | hmm righto |
| 01:05.09 | t-jack | dpkg Did you like it? |
| 01:05.10 | dpkg | t-jack: i haven't a clue |
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| 01:05.22 | Tarka | Sorry, I mean MrP |
| 01:05.45 | MrP | Guerin: What option would I pass? apt-get remove wine --purge ? |
| 01:05.52 | MrP | Tarka: ya, I did that |
| 01:06.17 | t-jack | Guerin: For something so simple, I sure am having my problems with it... |
| 01:06.24 | Tarka | Agrajag-: I think it depends on the motherboard. Can you set it to boot from a firewire device. If so you may get lucky. |
| 01:06.30 | Agrajag- | im assuming i should put /boot on a 'real' hdd in the box though, because i dont imagine grub/lilo will let me boot from a external usb/firewire device |
| 01:06.56 | Agrajag- | Tarka: hmm i quite sure the mobo doesn't support that.. so i guess what i just said? |
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| 01:07.06 | scarynetworkguy | t-jack: I'm thinking I pretty much agree with Guerin |
| 01:07.11 | PerfDave | Agrajag-: Why don't you read the installation manual and see what it says? |
| 01:07.30 | Agrajag- | i tried to find one on the latest d-i but only found old ones |
| 01:07.44 | t-jack | scarynetworkguy: So what, this time? |
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| 01:07.58 | Guerin | osiris: please refrain from messaging me. |
| 01:07.58 | ^Diablo^ | hi |
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| 01:08.34 | osiris | Sorry, |
| 01:08.44 | Tarka | Agrajag-: Check the bios settings. The initial boot order is up to the bios; most modern ones will boot from USB, dunno about Firewire though. |
| 01:08.51 | t-jack | scarynetworkguy: Agree with Guerin on what? |
| 01:09.37 | Guerin | I'm going to try and sleep off my migraine. |
| 01:09.43 | Tarka | OK, so is anybody seeing problems with fonts under Gnome at the moment. Blurry, color edging, that sort of thing?? |
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| 01:10.05 | osiris | Tarka: not here, |
| 01:10.07 | bob2 | Tarka: don't use unstable if you're not willing to read the fontconfig bug page |
| 01:10.37 | t-jack | scarynetworkguy: Agree with Guerin on what? |
| 01:10.38 | frix | can someone tell me how to give an parameter in 'grub' for a certain pci card to use a certain interrupt? |
| 01:10.58 | bob2 | frix: is that even possible? |
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| 01:11.12 | bob2 | Agrajag-: it depends on your bios |
| 01:11.23 | t-jack | Anyone know why dmesg fails to read my soundcard, yet lspci shows it active? Anyone know why I cannot start any mixers? |
| 01:11.28 | frix | bob2: i think so... it was/is with lilo at least |
| 01:11.40 | bob2 | frix: no |
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| 01:11.47 | bob2 | er, sorry |
| 01:12.02 | mdh | greetings earthlings, ltns |
| 01:12.06 | MrP | How do I change the default apt-get mirrors? |
| 01:12.07 | Tarka | bob2: I didn't see anything relevant, but I'll take another look. |
| 01:12.09 | LSorensen | t-jack: lspci shows what pci devices exist physically. it has nothing to do with either drivers or even existing support for the hardware |
| 01:12.21 | LSorensen | MrP: edit your sources.list |
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| 01:12.50 | frix | bob2: are you sure? |
| 01:12.56 | LSorensen | frix: anything you would put in append= in lilo.conf you can add to the end of the kernel line in grub menu.lst |
| 01:12.58 | t-jack | LSorensen: So how do I get ALSA functioning? |
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| 01:13.07 | LSorensen | t-jack: which sound card, which kernel version? |
| 01:13.23 | frix | LSorensen: thank you |
| 01:13.25 | MrP | LSorensen: Thanks |
| 01:13.54 | frix | LSorensen: but do you know the correct syntax for irq? i couldnt find anything |
| 01:13.58 | t-jack | LSorensen: AudigyLS 2.6.8 |
| 01:14.04 | LSorensen | frix: that depends on the driver |
| 01:14.06 | bob2 | frix: I was trying to agree with you |
| 01:14.12 | LSorensen | t-jack: Audigy LS? |
| 01:14.20 | MasterYoda | thomas_adam: thanks for your help, the chroot is downloading |
| 01:14.31 | t-jack | LSorensen: No, AudigyLS |
| 01:14.40 | frix | LSorensen: RTL-8139/8139C/8139C |
| 01:15.03 | LSorensen | frix: that's a pci network chip. it does whatever the bios says to do. |
| 01:15.26 | LSorensen | frix: if that doesn't work, make SURE the bios does NOT have 'pnp os installed' set to yes. |
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| 01:15.44 | t-jack | LSorensen: Yes Audigy LS |
| 01:15.44 | MasterYoda | thomas_adam: next tiem I as this quesion just say "apt-get install debootstrap alien; alien --to-rpm debootstrap*deb; scp...; ssh...; rpm -Uvh debootstrap*; man debootstrap" |
| 01:15.45 | frix | LSorensen: okay, i'll check that |
| 01:15.47 | MrP | When I try to start wine now, and then click configure, it tells me I need winesetuptk, but when I try to apt-get it, it tells me I have it. Is there a workaround for that/ |
| 01:15.49 | MasterYoda | thomas_adam: works like a charm |
| 01:15.54 | thomas_adam | MasterYoda: No worries. |
| 01:16.46 | LSorensen | t-jack: what does this say: lspci -n|grep 0401 |
| 01:17.05 | LSorensen | frix: as long as the network driver (8139too) is a module and loaded in /etc/modules, it should find the card |
| 01:17.06 | mith | LSorensen: shoosh, help me |
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| 01:17.20 | t-jack | LSorensen: 0000:02:0b.0 0401: 1102:0007 |
| 01:17.24 | LSorensen | t-jack: ok. |
| 01:17.32 | frix | LSorensen: it actually _finds_ the card, but it shares its interrupt with my dvb-s |
| 01:17.39 | frix | which makes the dvb driver crash down |
| 01:18.19 | LSorensen | frix: then get a fixed dvb driver, or move one of the cards to a different slot and see if that makes the bios assign different irqs |
| 01:18.50 | LSorensen | t-jack: hmm, all I can find is something saying "alsa cvs has a beta driver". |
| 01:18.59 | frix | LSorensen: the problem is: i got 2 of those dvb's built in, but i load the module once |
| 01:19.15 | frix | so i dont know how to give to irq parms to _one_ model |
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| 01:19.22 | frix | s/model/module |
| 01:19.23 | LSorensen | t-jack: still looking though |
| 01:19.39 | Cwiiis | Hi - Can anyone point me to where I can find a net-install CD image for debian unstable? |
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| 01:19.47 | LSorensen | frix: you can NOT pass irq options to pci devices. the bios does that. the bios assigns them based on which slot the cards are in generally. |
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| 01:20.31 | LSorensen | frix: freeing up irqs tend to help the bios give unique irqs. ie: if you don't need the serial port, turn it off in the bios. if you don't need parallel port, turn it off. If you don't need ps/2 mouse, turn it off. every one of those would free an irq for the bios to assign to pci slots |
| 01:20.46 | MrP | Guerin: --purge didn't help. konsole shows this over and over again: Invoking /usr/bin/wine 1320v151S.exe ... |
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| 01:21.15 | frix | LSorensen: i see... i'll try that |
| 01:21.19 | wobbler | MrP did you type winesetuptk ? |
| 01:21.21 | frix | LSorensen: thank you |
| 01:21.24 | LSorensen | Cwiiis: get one for testing or the latest d-i daily build and you can install unstable with that. www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 01:21.37 | Cwiiis | thanks LSorensen |
| 01:23.35 | osiris | is there much difference between sarge and sid? |
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| 01:23.47 | MrP | wobbler: Ya, I was able to get the winesetuptk installed after uninstalling it lol |
| 01:23.58 | AngelGabriel | Good evening everybody! |
| 01:24.03 | MrP | Wine still doesn't work though |
| 01:24.05 | daft | "kernel panic - self destruct sequence initiated" <== i have written my own all your base are belong to us kernel panic with ascii art |
| 01:24.22 | daft | patch |
| 01:24.27 | wobbler | MrP you have to type winesetuptk to set itup |
| 01:24.32 | rand-irc | does anyone know how to set 10bt full dupliex in debian? |
| 01:24.38 | asg | rand-irc: mii-tool |
| 01:24.39 | rand-irc | on the ethernet card that is :) |
| 01:24.45 | rand-irc | mii-tool |
| 01:24.51 | rand-irc | k, lemme check that :) |
| 01:25.04 | daft | rand-irc: if you use a switchs isnt it automaticly detected? |
| 01:25.14 | AngelGabriel | rand-irc, I thought that was automatic - and would depend on the status of the other cards on your LAN |
| 01:25.17 | asg | daft: some switches are dumb, some cards are dumb |
| 01:25.23 | rand-irc | not the baystack switch that comes with the 10mb fiber |
| 01:25.26 | rand-irc | it's really lame |
| 01:25.33 | rand-irc | but i have to use it |
| 01:25.34 | blafard | maybe this is a silly question: when I start kde, the startup screen with the progress bar is not centered and is very large, as if it thought I was using a different resolution. Once KDE starts, there is no problem. Why would this happen? |
| 01:25.40 | LSorensen | rand-irc: 10mbit fiber? |
| 01:25.49 | rand-irc | ya |
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| 01:25.55 | LSorensen | rand-irc: is it a switch not a hub? |
| 01:25.56 | rand-irc | er, ya :) |
| 01:26.06 | LSorensen | rand-irc: and if a switch couldn't you just run at 100? |
| 01:26.10 | skel | does anyone know if there's a java version of Access Grid 2 (AG2) ? |
| 01:26.10 | rand-irc | yes it's a switch that the fiber plugs into |
| 01:26.15 | nvz | switches are cool ;) |
| 01:26.18 | osiris | can anyone help me play dvds in debian? it keeps coming up with no dvd found |
| 01:26.22 | rand-irc | and no i can't, we dont' control it, unfortunately |
| 01:26.25 | rand-irc | otherwise i would |
| 01:26.26 | osiris | its looing in /dev/dvd |
| 01:26.34 | AngelGabriel | I'm trying to connect to a remote machine so that it's display is shown on my system - but I've follwed a guide about SSH forwarding, and I have no joy |
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| 01:26.46 | asg | nvz: http://gimp.shacknet.nu/computers/work/dells24.jpg |
| 01:26.50 | skel | osiris: do a dmesg | grep -i dvd and find the real device name of your dvd |
| 01:27.02 | frix | LSorensen: i turned off everything, i dont need in bios |
| 01:27.13 | skel | AngelGabriel: what do you need to forward? X? |
| 01:27.28 | frix | LSorensen: same problem - one of the dvbs is still sharing its irq with nic |
| 01:27.52 | AngelGabriel | skel, err.... Basically, I want to set it up so that I can control the host machine as if i was sitting @ it |
| 01:28.03 | MrP | wobbler: I know, I set it up. The thing is, is that when I try to open a program with it, it keeps opening up multiple instances of it |
| 01:28.19 | MrP | wobbler: I had it working before I messed around with it a couple weeks ago |
| 01:28.19 | nvz | yay, everyone is jivbin meh radom p1x0rs 2day |
| 01:28.21 | t-jack | LSorensen: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device |
| 01:28.45 | asg | nvz: you gave us lol dudes no? |
| 01:28.56 | LSorensen | t-jack: which which alsa driver did you load? |
| 01:28.59 | asg | AngelGabriel: apt-get install filters ; man eleet |
| 01:29.01 | skel | AngelGabriel: you mean gui wise? |
| 01:29.06 | nvz | asg: I dont know you tell me ;) |
| 01:29.14 | asg | nvz: hehe |
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| 01:29.52 | asg | nvz: the switches are pretty nice too (love the color) |
| 01:30.25 | AngelGabriel | skel, Yes, I want the host desktop, to appear on my local client |
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| 01:30.32 | asg | nvz: for testing |
| 01:30.40 | nvz | time wasting? |
| 01:30.46 | nvz | hook er up, yee haw |
| 01:30.52 | frix | LSorensen: and theres no 'non pnp os' option neither |
| 01:30.53 | w0w0 | when i run apt-get update i receive this: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907. how can i resolve this? i don't find doc's about this |
| 01:30.58 | t-jack | LSorensen: ii alsa-base 1.0.6a-6 ALSA configuration files |
| 01:31.02 | nvz | I only got a 5-port here |
| 01:31.03 | asg | nvz: something like that ;) |
| 01:31.14 | nvz | I didnt bring my Lattisnet with me |
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| 01:31.28 | nvz | I had a 36port |
| 01:31.31 | skel | AngelGabriel: is this across the internet or on a local network? because if it was on a secure network I'd suggest using xdmcp |
| 01:31.47 | es | Hello all! Suppose I have a user member of two groups. His primary group is domain_1 but I whant for a certain directory to default create files as group domain_2. How to do it? |
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| 01:32.00 | asg | nvz: those are my test switches, the rest of the office runs on a 3com super stack (piece o crap) |
| 01:32.14 | MrP | how do you kill a specific PID? |
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| 01:32.20 | asg | MrP: kill <pid> |
| 01:32.31 | asg | MrP: kill -9 <pid> (if it's being a real bitch) |
| 01:32.32 | LSorensen | t-jack: well unfortunately, until 2.6.9 that version of alsa isn't installed. 2.6.8 uses 1.04 which doesn't support the audigy ls. 1.06 does (which 2.6.9 will include). You should be able to build alsa-source for your 2.6 kernel somehow and use that, but it's a bit tricky. it's simple with 2.4 kernel though |
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| 01:32.36 | AngelGabriel | skel, local network - i'll go google xdmcp |
| 01:32.47 | MrP | asg: Ahh, that is what I needed |
| 01:33.11 | SouL-FoRTuNe | whats a good webmail client that supports traditional mailbox files |
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| 01:33.20 | es | MrP: look also to pgrep and pkill handy utility :) |
| 01:33.49 | skel | AngelGabriel: try http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/ |
| 01:33.52 | t-jack | LSorensen: Not installable in 2.6.8? |
| 01:34.05 | MrP | Is there a way to refresh the contents of a digital camera that is running as a SD device without remounting it? |
| 01:34.06 | skel | AngelGabriel: i'd be happy to help if I can if you run into trouble |
| 01:34.09 | MrP | I go through this trouble everytime |
| 01:34.29 | devolve | installed transcode to /usr/local/transcode, did a ./configure --then ./configure && make all --then make install... yet i cant seem to link against it now... |
| 01:34.33 | SouL-FoRTuNe | F5 |
| 01:34.35 | es | SouL-FoRTuNe: I'm using http://hastymail.sourceforge.net/ |
| 01:34.35 | devolve | libtools help me? |
| 01:34.45 | SouL-FoRTuNe | thanks es, ill give it a try |
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| 01:34.59 | es | ... Suppose I have a user member of two groups. His primary group is domain_1 but I whant for a certain directory to default create files as group domain_2. How to do it? |
| 01:35.12 | LSorensen | t-jack: well 2.6 kernels include alsa drivers already, so it gets a bit conflicting trying to force seperately built alsa-drivers onto it, although it can be done. You can just follow the instructions of alsa-source pacakge (apt-get install alsa-source, read /usr/share/doc/alsa-source/README*) and build against the kernel-headers package matching the kernel, then install the alsa-drivers I guess using either dpkg-diverts (best but harder) or dpk |
| 01:35.16 | AngelGabriel | skel, That's exactly the same link i found - i'm reading it now |
| 01:35.24 | LSorensen | t-jack: then the snd-emu10k1 driver should work. |
| 01:35.52 | rand-irc | asg: does mii-tool need redoing after restart? |
| 01:35.56 | LSorensen | rand-irc: yes |
| 01:36.02 | AngelGabriel | skel, If I run X on my own system (my laptop) how can i choose which system to connect to? (local or remote) |
| 01:36.07 | LSorensen | rand-irc: most drivers have an option for duplex and speed |
| 01:36.22 | SouL-FoRTuNe | An IMAP server is required for Hastymail, since it is an IMAP |
| 01:36.22 | SouL-FoRTuNe | client. |
| 01:36.24 | SouL-FoRTuNe | :\ |
| 01:36.29 | SouL-FoRTuNe | i coudlnt get imap set up properly |
| 01:36.34 | SouL-FoRTuNe | or pop3 for that matter |
| 01:37.09 | es | AngelGabriel try XDMCP (read the howto) |
| 01:37.22 | rand-irc | LSorensen: k, i'll check into it more |
| 01:37.24 | es | SouL-FoRTuNe: it's just a client :) |
| 01:37.29 | rand-irc | this is the first real time playing with linux |
| 01:37.33 | asg | rand-irc: yes |
| 01:37.43 | rand-irc | i'm coming from playing with the bsd subsystem in OSX |
| 01:37.50 | zeeeee | if anybody's wondering, the official word from a unison maintainer is that regex paths are not supported |
| 01:37.52 | rand-irc | does this look right? |
| 01:37.52 | rand-irc | mii-tool -v -F eth0 10baseT-FD |
| 01:38.10 | LSorensen | AngelGabriel: either use an xdm chooser (read xdm docs) or run x manually with startx for local or X -query remotehost, for remote |
| 01:38.16 | SouL-FoRTuNe | can anyone walk me through or show me a howto for setting up courier pop3? |
| 01:38.18 | zeeeee | (in response to an earlier question of mine) |
| 01:38.32 | es | zeeeee: what???? I'm using unison with regexp (at least in my running version) |
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| 01:38.40 | asg | rand-irc: the interface should go at the end |
| 01:38.41 | zeeeee | es: how so? |
| 01:38.48 | LSorensen | SouL-FoRTuNe: courier requires Maildir rather than mbox for mail folders. It takes a bit of tweaking and rearanging to get exim running that way |
| 01:38.52 | zeeeee | es: my original question was: |
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| 01:38.56 | rand-irc | http://jclement.ca/docs/debian_qmail/debian_qmail/ |
| 01:38.59 | Mawbid | I have a remarkably slow installation of phpmyadmin on apache2 with mod-php4. like 5 seconds to load the page after selecting a db from the dropdown. the machine is only 400MHz, but this has got to be a misconfiguration. any ideas what it might be or how I even begin to narrow down the search? |
| 01:39.00 | LSorensen | SouL-FoRTuNe: for simple imap, use uw-imap |
| 01:39.01 | rand-irc | SouL-FoRTuNe: http://jclement.ca/docs/debian_qmail/debian_qmail/ |
| 01:39.05 | zeeeee | hi all, if anybody here uses unison, how do you tell it to synchronize a path using a (simple) regex (eg *.txt)? the docs say 'path' is a literal but with things like 'ignore' and 'follow' using regexes, surely there must be a way to specify what to accept using regex... |
| 01:39.06 | SouL-FoRTuNe | :\ |
| 01:39.11 | SouL-FoRTuNe | whats a pop3 client that uses mbox? |
| 01:39.12 | LSorensen | SouL-FoRTuNe: although uw-imap is pretty crappy |
| 01:39.21 | AngelGabriel | LSorensen, Thanx! |
| 01:39.21 | rand-irc | asg: k |
| 01:39.26 | LSorensen | SouL-FoRTuNe: qpopper, most any other than courier |
| 01:39.33 | es | zeeeee: wiat a sec |
| 01:39.44 | rand-irc | asg: so : mii-tool -v -F 10baseT-FD eth0 |
| 01:39.44 | rand-irc | ? |
| 01:39.46 | SouL-FoRTuNe | k |
| 01:39.46 | asg | Mawbid: what apache2 mpm are you using? |
| 01:39.47 | SouL-FoRTuNe | thanks |
| 01:39.51 | asg | rand-irc: that should work |
| 01:39.55 | rand-irc | heh |
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| 01:40.02 | rand-irc | oh |
| 01:40.04 | w0w0 | when i run apt-get update i receive this: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907. how can i resolve this? i don't find doc's about this |
| 01:40.14 | rand-irc | what's debians version of 'fink' type package management utiltiy? |
| 01:40.24 | bob2 | w0w0: don't run apt from experimental |
| 01:40.26 | rand-irc | is it just apt-get? |
| 01:40.27 | asg | rand-irc: apt-cache policy fink |
| 01:40.32 | skel | AngelGabriel: usually when you use things like xdm, gdm, kdm there are options before you login to connect via xdcmp to another server |
| 01:40.34 | bob2 | rand-irc: duh, they ripped off apt |
| 01:40.38 | LSorensen | rand-irc: apt-get source -b packagename for sources, and apt-get install package name for binaries. |
| 01:40.39 | es | zeeeee: I have like: ignore = Regex *.jpg |
| 01:40.49 | rand-irc | bob2: they used some of it yes |
| 01:40.56 | LSorensen | bob2: true they did, but they also added some stuff in the fink command that is really nifty |
| 01:40.57 | Mawbid | asg: prefork |
| 01:40.57 | rand-irc | thanks gents |
| 01:41.08 | rand-irc | LSorensen: you played with it much? |
| 01:41.15 | asg | Mawbid: hmmm, anything in the logs? |
| 01:41.16 | LSorensen | bob2: like download and build everything required to install X and it's dependancies |
| 01:41.22 | LSorensen | rand-irc: about a year ago I did |
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| 01:41.29 | w0w0 | bob2: tnks |
| 01:41.29 | rand-irc | it's gotten a lot better |
| 01:41.32 | es | zeeeee: unison version 2.9.1 |
| 01:41.33 | Mawbid | nope |
| 01:41.37 | LSorensen | rand-irc: it was pretty darn good then |
| 01:41.43 | zeeeee | es: same here |
| 01:41.43 | rand-irc | and the rsync network is a lot more mature |
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| 01:41.53 | asg | Mawbid: anyone alive in #apache? |
| 01:41.57 | zeeeee | es: but as i mentioned ignore is not what i was looking for |
| 01:41.58 | es | zeeeee: it should work then! |
| 01:41.59 | nvz | asg: yeah I had an old 3com nic in my apt-cacher box somehow.. it was giving me like 25k/s and shit.. I switched the hardwarfe and moved it up here onto the switch, and I get about 1-8M/s |
| 01:41.59 | rand-irc | LSorensen: you have a mac?, or just looking at fink ? |
| 01:42.03 | Mawbid | hmm, good idea :-) |
| 01:42.21 | LSorensen | rand-irc: I had an eMac at work at my previous job that was used by a mac developer |
| 01:42.21 | zeeeee | es: you can't specify path = blah/*.txt |
| 01:42.27 | thread | has anybody installed windows on a non-first partition? I'm having trouble getting grub to boot winxp from hd0,3 |
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| 01:42.40 | asg | nvz: yeah, the 3com has a bad fan and makes ugly noises; I'll replace it with the Summit when testing is finished. |
| 01:43.00 | rand-irc | LSorensen: cool |
| 01:43.00 | es | zeeeee: why should you... don't get what you whant |
| 01:43.01 | LSorensen | thread: windows often hates that. make SURE the boot.ini has the right partition number (counting from 0 like grub I believe) |
| 01:43.05 | LSorensen | rand-irc: of course I had to try fink on it |
| 01:43.06 | nvz | asg: it was like a 3c509tp ISA I think |
| 01:43.09 | thread | LSorensen: ah! good idea, thanks |
| 01:43.12 | pipeline | nvz: ewwwwwww |
| 01:43.15 | asg | nvz: ah |
| 01:43.23 | zeeeee | es: path = blah/*.txt is interpreted literally; it'll try to find a file called '*.txt' under blah |
| 01:43.24 | LSorensen | thread: if you move partitions you have to fix boot.ini |
| 01:43.32 | rand-irc | LSorensen: it's practically law to do so :) |
| 01:43.36 | nvz | asg: I got like 3 of em.. only use em when I have no other option.. so I dont know why it was in there |
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| 01:43.48 | asg | nvz: :) |
| 01:43.49 | thread | LSorensen: I didn't move anything, but maybe the software sucks enough it doesn't make that change given my partition configuration? |
| 01:43.56 | asg | bob2: you get your bandwidth sorted? |
| 01:44.07 | zeeeee | es: the obvious technical reason against support for full-blown regexes is obvious; you'd need to filter against a complete listing of all files on the system |
| 01:44.09 | bob2 | asg: not really sure yet |
| 01:44.11 | LSorensen | thread: the boot loader doesn't change anything by itself (and it shouldn't) |
| 01:44.17 | nvz | pipeline: hey they had aui on them or whatever |
| 01:44.24 | zeeeee | es: however i don't see why it can't use simple shell-style regexes a la bash (*/*.txt) |
| 01:44.30 | asg | bob2: well, you should have been getting at least 10Mb from the link I gave you yesterday. |
| 01:44.35 | AngelGabriel | skel, LSorensen - Okay, i've ssh into the host machine and changed the file Xaccess to accept all broadcasts and present them with a login screen ... i'm hoping i'm on the right track |
| 01:44.45 | thread | LSorensen: well, if it installs to hda4, then it should make that change. well, I'm reinstalling win right now, I've that a try this time |
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| 01:44.56 | asg | bob2: +/- transit from .us -> .au |
| 01:45.01 | bob2 | asg: yeah, my dsl got 30KB/s but a coloed machine on 10mbit got 400B/s |
| 01:45.04 | LSorensen | thread: well I know NT4 refused to work installed to anything but partition 1 |
| 01:45.11 | LSorensen | thread: at least for me it did |
| 01:45.17 | asg | bob2: hmmm |
| 01:45.18 | thread | LSorensen: actually, it doens't seem that windows even takes over, because when I type root (hd0,3) it immediately freezes (after enter) |
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| 01:45.32 | Heart_ | after an "apt-get update"... how can I get a list from all programs that are "newer" (which will be updated) ...only a list of these programs, not do an upgrade? |
| 01:45.35 | nvz | I've probably got 10 modems in my drawer now, almost ever pc I come upon has one, and I never use them |
| 01:45.40 | LSorensen | thread: might have to use root_noverify if it is ntfs. grub doesn't read that |
| 01:45.45 | bob2 | Heart_: apt-get -s dist-upgrade |
| 01:45.48 | nvz | you cant even identify or classify modems anymore |
| 01:45.59 | thread | LSorensen: it's vfat, and I tried that.. in that case, it freezes up when I tell it to boot |
| 01:46.13 | LSorensen | thread: so root (hdx,x), chainloader +1, boot? |
| 01:46.15 | es | zeeeee: u whant just to sync *.txt right? have u tried using ignore = Regex !*.txt |
| 01:46.26 | stew | i just finally threw out the 10 isa modems i had lying around "just in case" |
| 01:46.37 | stew | i saved a pci modem and an external v.everything "just in case" |
| 01:46.42 | zeeeee | es: ah, but the problem with that is it'll apply to *all* your files |
| 01:46.43 | es | zeeeee: ! as in "not" |
| 01:46.49 | zeeeee | es: not just the ones under blah |
| 01:46.51 | skel | AngelGabriel: do you use an xdm/gdm/kdm ? |
| 01:46.56 | LSorensen | stew: my v.everything external is still connected as backup internet connection |
| 01:47.06 | Heart_ | bob2: apt-get -s upgrade also possible? |
| 01:47.11 | AngelGabriel | skel, xdm |
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| 01:47.17 | bob2 | Heart_: yes |
| 01:47.20 | thread | LSorensen: when I do root (hd0,3) it freezes immediately. when I do noverify, it doesn't freeze until I tell it to boot, presumably because it didn't "verify" immediately |
| 01:47.22 | t-jack | LSorensen: So I de-install all alsa pkg and purge, install just the alsa-source? |
| 01:47.23 | Heart_ | k thx |
| 01:47.32 | LSorensen | thread: are you SURE it is hd0,3? |
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| 01:47.42 | thread | LSorensen: yes, hda4 |
| 01:47.44 | LSorensen | t-jack: no the other alsa packges are required too |
| 01:47.46 | skel | AngelGabriel: then you should be able to before login, list all xdcmp broadcasting servers and login to it |
| 01:47.53 | b0ef | is there any app that splits the terminal in two; one showing the terminal of the other user and one terminal for the user?. I'd like to teach some of my users how to use the system. I know I can use talkd, but that won't show my terminal and the commands I give. We have no problem talking to eachother with voice as we use voip |
| 01:47.58 | LSorensen | thread: no hd0,3 != hda4. hd0,3 = 4th existing partition on drive |
| 01:47.58 | es | zeeeee: use a different root? |
| 01:47.59 | asg | b0ef: screen |
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| 01:48.12 | LSorensen | thread: do you have hda1, hda2 hda3 and hda4 all primary partitions? |
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| 01:48.15 | thread | LSorensen: yes |
| 01:48.18 | t-jack | LSorensen: Well, alsa-source doesn't list my card... |
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| 01:48.27 | LSorensen | t-jack: which version of alsa source? |
| 01:48.29 | zeeeee | es: that doesn't help... |
| 01:48.32 | LSorensen | t-jack: it's called emu10k1 |
| 01:48.39 | b0ef | asg: yes, I use screen, but are you sure we can do this with screen? |
| 01:48.39 | rand-irc | bob2: from one of the fink devs :) : 21:51 < RangerRick> you know what would really make bob2 happy? tell him that the 'fink' command generates the debian control directory using an rpm-spec-like file ;) |
| 01:48.41 | LSorensen | t-jack: just tell it 'all' |
| 01:48.49 | LSorensen | t-jack: or it won't work most likely |
| 01:49.02 | rand-irc | we borrowed from all over, and made something that works for us |
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| 01:49.05 | bob2 | rand-irc: that's sick |
| 01:49.05 | Heart_ | how should the sources.list looks like on a vserver debian woody? |
| 01:49.20 | rand-irc | bob2: you should try it if you ever get the chance |
| 01:49.22 | bob2 | rand-irc: yada does that and it's disgusting to work with |
| 01:49.24 | rand-irc | it's pretty nice |
| 01:49.30 | bob2 | rand-irc: I gave up on making mac os x usable |
| 01:49.36 | thread | LSorensen: I have my doubts modifying the boot.ini will help |
| 01:49.38 | asg | b0ef: it should |
| 01:49.39 | stew | LSorensen: i actually haven't ever used the v.everything besides determining that it could connect. it was a trash pick :) |
| 01:49.40 | rand-irc | pity |
| 01:49.48 | LSorensen | rand-irc: yeah debian package management and file format, with bsd style ports system and rpm style spec file :) |
| 01:49.55 | dan2 | asg: this is irritating |
| 01:49.58 | b0ef | asg: looking through the man page, I can't see any mention of this |
| 01:50.03 | SouL-FoRTuNe | ok i got pop3 working :D |
| 01:50.03 | es | zeeeee: -ignorenot |
| 01:50.03 | asg | b0ef: you can use screen to have the other user attach to your terminal so you can share it |
| 01:50.04 | LSorensen | thread: yeah perhaps the grub settings are wrong |
| 01:50.07 | asg | dan2: what is? |
| 01:50.08 | SouL-FoRTuNe | whats a good easy to set up smtp server? |
| 01:50.08 | dan2 | asg: I finally got to a point where I need C++ to do function overloading |
| 01:50.17 | asg | !comfort dan2 |
| 01:50.17 | dpkg | There, there, dan2. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 01:50.19 | LSorensen | thread: what partitions do you have on the system? |
| 01:50.25 | rand-irc | bob2: not sure why you find that, but fair nuff |
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| 01:50.44 | thread | LSorensen: I have 2 drives.. the first one has 1, /; 2, swap; 3, home; 4, win2k |
| 01:50.46 | dan2 | asg: its utterly annoying to make a million different classes in ocaml for each type |
| 01:50.54 | b0ef | asg: hmm, I'll dig a little on that |
| 01:51.00 | LSorensen | thread: all primary partitions, no hda5 or anything? |
| 01:51.05 | bob2 | rand-irc: no built-in virtual desktops. the terminal is shit. safari << firefox |
| 01:51.10 | thread | LSorensen: yes, 4 primary partitions |
| 01:51.13 | asg | dan2: an issue with ocaml? |
| 01:51.16 | zeeeee | es: i mentioned ignorenot in my orig question :) as the docs mention, it causes problems with subdirs |
| 01:51.31 | LSorensen | thread: hmm, that shouldn't die then. was windows installed directly to hda4 (as in windows knew it was hda4 when it installed)? |
| 01:51.32 | rand-irc | bob2: all very easily fixable, and for free too |
| 01:51.37 | rand-irc | with all source code avaliable |
| 01:51.41 | skel | AngelGabriel: any luck? |
| 01:51.47 | thread | LSorensen: yes, in fact I'm just doing it again right now |
| 01:51.56 | es | zeeeee: u need a combination of the 2: -ignore Regexp = blah/* and -ignorenot Regexp = blah/*.txt ? what bad with that.... |
| 01:51.58 | LSorensen | thread: I wonder if it still wants boot.ini on partition #1 |
| 01:52.10 | LSorensen | thread: I have never personalyl not installed windows first on a machine. |
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| 01:52.20 | dan2 | asg: it just the fact that I am tired of reimplementing everything, whereas in C++ I can get some nice type conversion and function overloading |
| 01:52.27 | dan2 | asg: http://rafb.net/paste/results/ZkiTUp63.html |
| 01:52.27 | plangent | bob2: http://wsmanager.sourceforge.net/ |
| 01:52.32 | thread | LSorensen: hrm... I thought it was possible |
| 01:52.39 | dan2 | asg: -- for programming class |
| 01:52.39 | es | ... Suppose I have a user member of two groups. His primary group is domain_1 but I whant for a certain directory to default create files as group domain_2. How to do it? |
| 01:52.41 | LSorensen | thread: it may be, but I have never managed to do it. |
| 01:52.46 | dan2 | asg: had to be a mileage program |
| 01:52.48 | asg | dan2: so, use C++ for some things, ocaml for others. |
| 01:52.48 | plangent | Free virtual desktop program for os x |
| 01:52.59 | thread | LSorensen: there, I didn't install grub that time.. right after the installation, it just hangs at the black screen |
| 01:53.02 | LSorensen | thread: I always tell people to install windows first (starting with oldest first if doing multiple windows versions) then install linux |
| 01:53.09 | thread | LSorensen: it's not grub, it's windows failing to work properly |
| 01:53.14 | dan2 | asg: yes |
| 01:53.17 | t-jack | LSorensen: And it's the standard apt-get Sid version. |
| 01:53.19 | LSorensen | thread: hmm, maybe windows doesn't like being not first then |
| 01:53.46 | LSorensen | t-jack: well when it asks which drivers to compile, pick all, then follow the readme for compiling against kernel headers |
| 01:54.18 | es | LSorensen: thread: windows don't like to be on not primary afaik |
| 01:54.29 | zeeeee | es: from the docs "This means that, if some parent of a given path matches an ignore pattern, then it will be skipped even if the path itself matches an ignorenot pattern." |
| 01:54.30 | LSorensen | es: even primary partition is not enough it seems |
| 01:54.39 | thread | es: did you mean to say "first partition" ? |
| 01:54.39 | asg | es: windows generally doesn't like sharing |
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| 01:55.17 | dan2 | asg: its pretty well written I'd say so myself :) |
| 01:55.22 | asg | dan2: :) |
| 01:55.25 | zeeeee | In particular, putting ignore = Path blah/* in your profile and then using t ignorenot to select particular paths to be synchronized will not work. |
| 01:55.38 | zeeeee | sorry i meant Regex |
| 01:55.59 | zeeeee | err...i was right the first time heh |
| 01:56.15 | asg | dan2: though if that's for a class, you might want to comment more. |
| 01:56.21 | AngelGabriel | skel, No luck yet, doing some further reading |
| 01:56.23 | es | zeeeee: grrr that's bad can't beleave there isn't a solution... |
| 01:56.49 | skel | AngelGabriel: ok |
| 01:56.52 | Xenguy | SSH question: is modifying the 'port' line in /etc/sshd the proper way to configure SSH connections to a different port than 22 ? |
| 01:56.57 | t-jack | LSorensen: Reading... |
| 01:56.58 | dan2 | asg: http://rafb.net/paste/results/cLDehQ22.html -- include try and catch |
| 01:57.05 | LSorensen | es: there usually is, assuming you are requesting something sensible |
| 01:57.08 | pipeline | Xenguy: Yes. You can have multiple port lines, even. |
| 01:57.09 | osiris | anyone heard of a new irssi exploit patch? someone just warned me of a exploit going round anyone elseheard of it |
| 01:57.21 | Xenguy | pipeline: tx for the confirmation |
| 01:57.22 | LSorensen | osiris: haven't heard of any such thing |
| 01:57.23 | dan2 | asg: bah, I teach the god damn class |
| 01:57.47 | dan2 | asg: the teacher is some cobol programmer who doesn't even have the slightest clue how to program in java or c/++ |
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| 01:57.49 | asg | dan2: still, commenting is good (if used wisely) |
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| 01:58.22 | osiris | ok thats ok. |
| 01:58.24 | dan2 | asg: look at that Mileage pointer I created |
| 01:58.26 | osiris | thanks. |
| 01:58.43 | LSorensen | osiris: of course me not hearing about it doesn't mean it doesn't exist |
| 01:58.44 | dan2 | asg: generally, I like making declarations at the beginning of the function, and I didn't want to declare it after I received the input |
| 01:58.55 | dan2 | asg: so I just pointered it |
| 01:59.32 | asg | cafuego: is the tg3 driver fixed? |
| 01:59.34 | es | LSorensen: I was trying to help zeeeee getting unison to work. There is always a solution like run a bash script but don't know if this is the hack he whant's to perform. |
| 01:59.53 | LSorensen | es: I wasn't paying much attension to the original problem |
| 01:59.56 | asg | dan2: the compiler will likely optimize that away though, at the expense of clarity. |
| 02:00.07 | osiris | of course. |
| 02:00.16 | dan2 | asg: right, which is fine |
| 02:00.27 | es | LSorensen: maybe you can help me with _my problem ( I asked 3 times but nobody replied) |
| 02:00.30 | es | ... Suppose I have a user member of two groups. His primary group is domain_1 but I whant for a certain directory to default create files as group domain_2. How to do it? |
| 02:00.37 | dan2 | asg: realistically, I just made a pointer to a real instance, not a new/delete one |
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| 02:00.46 | asg | dan2: right |
| 02:01.01 | LSorensen | es: chown domain_2 dirname, chmod g+s dirname |
| 02:01.23 | dan2 | asg: new/delete == malloc == slow |
| 02:01.25 | es | +s ? GUID? |
| 02:01.38 | dan2 | asg: it makes about half million calls to the kernel to dynamically allocate memory |
| 02:01.43 | LSorensen | es: yes guid on dir = files created here should inherit group of dir |
| 02:01.44 | asg | dan2: :) |
| 02:01.46 | dan2 | asg: this way is much faster |
| 02:01.53 | loke | im trying to install aimsniff, and i get this error, Can't locate Net/Pcap.pm in @INC, what package do i need, or is a kernel option i need? |
| 02:01.57 | dan2 | asg: memory grabbed at compile time |
| 02:02.04 | asg | dan2: yep |
| 02:02.17 | asg | loke: apt-cache search Net::Pcap |
| 02:02.26 | es | LSorensen: I complety forgot about it :) |
| 02:02.30 | michal | does java have C language bindings? |
| 02:02.31 | loke | asg nothing |
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