| 00:00.11 | Wyzard | admin_: If the "problem" you've been describing for the past half-hour turns out to be anti-aliased text, I'm going to laugh |
| 00:00.28 | admin_ | did that help? |
| 00:00.46 | admin_ | anti aliased what? |
| 00:00.49 | Wyzard | admin_: Hang on a minute though -- I'll take a screenshot of my GNOME desktop on my freshly-installed laptop, for you to compare against |
| 00:00.51 | yhg | admin_, can you show us a screenshot? |
| 00:01.08 | admin_ | k |
| 00:01.18 | yhg | admin_, ant-aliased text is text that is smoothed so it looks prettier. |
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| 00:01.28 | admin_ | hmm.... |
| 00:01.56 | admin_ | wait let me check |
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| 00:02.23 | dvhart | I'm having trouble with cyrus, I haven't been able to authenticate with cyradm... how does it do authentication for admins? |
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| 00:02.26 | admin_ | ok then why do I see \\\the radio buttons |
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| 00:02.51 | yhg | huh? |
| 00:02.54 | admin_ | why do the radiobuttons look like...not in wondoes? |
| 00:02.59 | Wyzard | admin_: You're using a laptop, right? With an LCD screen? |
| 00:03.05 | Wyzard | admin_: umm... becaue you're not using Windows |
| 00:03.07 | admin_ | ya |
| 00:03.17 | admin_ | ok but.... |
| 00:03.21 | yhg | Well, um, that depends on what they look like. If they're not messed up and actually work, it's just a style thing. |
| 00:03.26 | admin_ | hmm.... |
| 00:03.27 | admin_ | ok |
| 00:03.42 | admin_ | where can i turn off that smooth thing? |
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| 00:05.05 | admin_ | wyzard? |
| 00:05.11 | Wyzard | admin_: I just sent you a URL |
| 00:05.25 | yhg | In GNOME, yes? 'Applications' menu, 'Desktop Preferences', 'Font' |
| 00:05.31 | Wyzard | I think I did... hang on |
| 00:05.44 | yhg | You can also choose different types to see if one looks better to you. |
| 00:05.45 | Wyzard | there we go |
| 00:05.48 | admin_ | cant see it |
| 00:05.54 | b0ef | I've nfs mounted a directory, but I only see the top directories within that directory when I mount it and they are all empty. Any special options to include if I want the whole directory tree below it? |
| 00:06.49 | Wyzard | admin_: got it now? |
| 00:07.00 | admin_ | no url |
| 00:07.04 | Wyzard | admin_: Text anti-aliasing is generally considered to be a feature btw |
| 00:07.12 | abrotman | most people like it |
| 00:07.55 | abrotman | ~love smj |
| 00:07.58 | apt | If you love smj so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh) |
| 00:08.06 | abrotman | not quite |
| 00:08.08 | admin_ | ok |
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| 00:08.25 | admin_ | then I have another prob |
| 00:08.25 | smj | abrotman: I never knew you felt that way. |
| 00:08.27 | Wyzard | Does that screenshot look like your own system? |
| 00:08.47 | admin_ | ah u mean that url |
| 00:08.52 | Wyzard | yeah |
| 00:08.53 | admin_ | didnt receive any |
| 00:09.01 | Wyzard | You still haven't? |
| 00:09.05 | admin_ | no |
| 00:09.13 | Wyzard | At first I accidentally msg'ed "admin" rather than "admin_" |
| 00:09.14 | smj | abrotman: I'm appreciating the --reinstall option for apt-get. It kicks ass. |
| 00:09.17 | Wyzard | but I definitely just sent it to you |
| 00:09.22 | admin_ | i checked the fonts prefrences... |
| 00:09.33 | admin_ | ok now i got it |
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| 00:11.10 | mwilson | Hm, I wanted to see Wyzard's sshot myself. |
| 00:11.18 | admin_ | looks like the same...... |
| 00:11.21 | FieldySnuts | user error |
| 00:11.30 | RootsLINUX | does anyone know how to setup giftui to connect to a server? I have a connect box and it asks me for server and port but I don't know what to enter ;_; I've googled for it I swear but found nothing |
| 00:11.44 | Wyzard | mwilson: It's just the default GNOME desktop before much customization has been done |
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| 00:12.02 | mwilson | stark. I like it. |
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| 00:12.14 | mwilson | Usually morons go in for this garish crap. |
| 00:12.30 | admin_ | then can u help me concerning my sound prob... |
| 00:12.34 | admin_ | ?? |
| 00:12.49 | mwilson | Or they use Industrial, which is about the stupidest thing Gnome ever came up with. |
| 00:12.54 | smj | mwilson: What are you guys talking about? |
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| 00:14.24 | mwilson | bah, drop shadows |
| 00:14.38 | Wyzard | smj: a screenshot of my desktop |
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| 00:14.51 | mwilson | ugh, and rounded windows. |
| 00:15.07 | admin_ | "Error while initializing the sound driver: device /dev/dsp cant be opened(DEvice or resource busy) The sound server will continue using the null output device. |
| 00:15.08 | Wyzard | mwilson: Oddly enough, that's the only rounded WM theme I like |
| 00:15.09 | smj | Wyzard: I missed the URL. :-( |
| 00:15.10 | admin_ | " |
| 00:15.30 | mwilson | That looks an awful lot like Industrial. |
| 00:15.34 | deadcat | Wyzard: wheres the screenshot? |
| 00:15.37 | Wyzard | mwilson: But I like it mostly for the solid colors and lack of a distinct raised border around the window |
| 00:15.39 | smj | Wyzard: Welp, I must go. |
| 00:15.48 | helix | Wyzard: let's see the sshot :) |
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| 00:16.07 | Wyzard | lol, fine, I wasn't going to put a URL to my home server in the channel, but if everyone wants to see it... |
| 00:16.17 | Wyzard | http://schala.dyndns.org/~mike/screenshot-2004-10-18.png |
| 00:16.43 | mwilson | I assume you run xorg for some reason OTHER than just eye-candy? |
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| 00:17.02 | Wyzard | mwilson: That's not xorg; I just edited it into the wallpaper |
| 00:17.07 | ugly | mwilson: what other reason is there!? |
| 00:17.18 | Wyzard | mwilson: It helps to make the edge of the panel more discernible |
| 00:17.19 | deadcat | its still loading. )= |
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| 00:17.32 | Wyzard | deadcat: probably because everyone's loading it all at once |
| 00:17.37 | helix | oh |
| 00:17.44 | deadcat | Wyzard: 56k here |
| 00:17.45 | helix | this looks about average when it comes to gnome desktops |
| 00:17.46 | mwilson | It was slow even with just me. |
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| 00:17.50 | Wyzard | It's nothing particularly spectacular; this all started with my showing admin_ what a default gnome desktop looks like |
| 00:18.08 | helix | Wyzard: ah |
| 00:18.09 | admin_ | wyzard can u help me with the sound prob?? |
| 00:18.31 | sussudio | helix: 4 valdyns. |
| 00:18.32 | Wyzard | admin_: What's the error message? |
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| 00:18.49 | abrotman | !u |
| 00:18.49 | dpkg | Dammit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. |
| 00:18.50 | Wyzard | admin_: btw, Google for "text antialiasing explanation" or something to see what it is and why it's considered a feature |
| 00:19.01 | helix | sussudio: yes, I see them |
| 00:19.07 | sussudio | valdyn__3 valdyn__2 valdyn__1 valdyn |
| 00:19.17 | admin_ | Error while initializing the sound driver |
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| 00:19.31 | admin_ | something cant be opened...resource busy |
| 00:19.34 | Wyzard | What app says that? |
| 00:19.45 | abrotman | 4? .. i see 6 |
| 00:19.49 | helix | admin_: lsof /dev/dsp or something |
| 00:19.52 | admin_ | aRts |
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| 00:19.57 | abrotman | err 7 |
| 00:20.03 | sussudio | yeah..... |
| 00:20.15 | admin_ | "/dev/dsp" |
| 00:20.18 | sussudio | valdyn_ valdyn__ valdyn___ too. |
| 00:20.24 | helix | creepy |
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| 00:20.50 | *** mode/#debian [+q *!*@p50803086.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] by helix |
| 00:20.51 | sussudio | /clones in irssi only sees 4 |
| 00:20.56 | deadcat | Wyzard: 've seen better gnome screenshots |
| 00:21.07 | admin_ | esd 1504 admin 5w CHR 14,3 638991 /dev/dsp |
| 00:21.11 | helix | valdyn's, if you're actually real, /msg me when you want the ability to speak |
| 00:21.12 | en-d | i've tried to compiler various things (nmap,python) on my new debian install, but after "./configure" and "make" make does not actually start compiling and its output is similar to configure |
| 00:21.16 | *** mode/#debian [-o helix] by helix |
| 00:21.20 | en-d | why does it do this and how can i stop it? |
| 00:21.20 | directhex_ | urgh, esd. /me vomits |
| 00:21.28 | Wyzard | admin_: There's the problem... aRts can't open the soundcard because EsounD already has it open |
| 00:21.35 | admin_ | ok |
| 00:21.44 | admin_ | how do i fix that |
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| 00:21.49 | deadcat | i read that XFree86 v4.3.0-ast7 or higher can do dropshadow |
| 00:21.49 | abrotman | why can't they just pick one |
| 00:21.52 | Wyzard | admin_: Kill esd, I guess |
| 00:21.59 | abrotman | look . there's another |
| 00:22.10 | helix | hmm |
| 00:22.16 | sussudio | 8... |
| 00:22.18 | admin_ | bash: kill: esd: no such pid |
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| 00:22.34 | Wyzard | admin_: The pid is 1504, according to the line you pasted |
| 00:22.45 | Wyzard | admin_: ("killall" is the way to kill processes by name rather than number) |
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| 00:23.00 | Wyzard | admin_: But if you're running GNOME, I'm wondering why you're trying to start aRts in the first place |
| 00:23.00 | admin_ | ok |
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| 00:23.06 | admin_ | now its killed |
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| 00:23.14 | en-d | any ideas about the make problem? |
| 00:23.18 | helix | god, there has to be a quicker way |
| 00:23.20 | admin_ | it starts itself |
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| 00:23.39 | carrett | is there a way to tell from ps ax if a process has hung or is a zombie? |
| 00:23.45 | *** mode/#debian [-o helix] by helix |
| 00:23.59 | njs | How much disk space does an install of everything in debian take, roughly? |
| 00:24.01 | Wyzard | carrett: Zombe processes have a 'Z' in their state column |
| 00:24.10 | njs | Trying to get an idea on the upper bound of space needed for non-user data |
| 00:24.27 | helix | njs: _everything_? like, all packages in the archive? |
| 00:24.28 | Wyzard | njs: Many many gigabytes if you installed *everything*, but nobody would actually do that |
| 00:24.30 | carrett | Wyzard, does DL+ mean anything bad? |
| 00:24.30 | njs | and I know I've seen this number reported, but google is not helping :-/ |
| 00:24.43 | Karhuton | When I copy files with 'cp' my overall cpu usage is up to 60-70 %. Top says 'cp' is using ~40%. hdparm reports drive is at udma5. hdparm -tT gives 700+ and 55+. Kernel 2.4. |
| 00:24.49 | helix | njs: I keep thinking I saw this mentioned on the mirroring page on debian.org |
| 00:24.50 | directhex_ | njs, 1) 'everything' is impossible, some apps conflict 2) about 10gb compressed per platform, somewhat larger uncompressed |
| 00:25.01 | Wyzard | njs: My desktop system has about 7GB used (excluding /home) and I'd say I have a bunch of stuff installed |
| 00:25.26 | directhex_ | 7.0G /usr/local/games/ |
| 00:26.13 | admin_ | wyzard, |
| 00:26.22 | admin_ | still cant hear sound |
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| 00:26.39 | Wyzard | admin_: Check your volume levels |
| 00:26.48 | njs | directhex_: 1) right, but looking for orders of magnitude 2) thanks |
| 00:26.50 | admin_ | the speaker in upper right doesent work |
| 00:26.55 | helix | pem3v78: don't do that |
| 00:26.59 | helix | and stop listening to crappy music |
| 00:27.27 | admin_ | means it doesent go to loud |
| 00:27.36 | admin_ | it stuck at no sound I gues |
| 00:27.39 | admin_ | s |
| 00:27.45 | sussudio | !fist pem3v78 |
| 00:28.01 | Analyser | some one know where i can get the openoffice as .deb ? |
| 00:28.15 | carrett | Analyser, on sid it's openoffice.org |
| 00:28.16 | AlverGone | any debian mirror? |
| 00:28.18 | pipeline | apt-get install openoffice |
| 00:28.18 | carrett | (apt-get install it) |
| 00:28.28 | hacim | apt-get install openoffice.org |
| 00:28.35 | Analyser | for woody |
| 00:28.40 | pem3v78 | * dpkg uses pem3v78 as a handpuppet, is this some kind of joke ? |
| 00:28.43 | _frank | can someone name a good microphone p2p-chat program for Linux? |
| 00:28.48 | pipeline | _frank: gnomemeeting |
| 00:28.55 | _frank | pipeline: something else |
| 00:28.56 | sussudio | pem3v78: this isn't an mp3 channel |
| 00:28.56 | pem3v78 | use skype |
| 00:29.05 | pem3v78 | oh sorry |
| 00:29.11 | pipeline | _frank: Oh, well, that was the only one I ever liked. |
| 00:29.20 | pem3v78 | i though this crap doesn't show up |
| 00:29.23 | admin_ | anyone knows how to get sound started?? |
| 00:29.31 | _frank | pipeline: i couldnt get gnomemeeting working |
| 00:30.02 | _frank | does it require a ldap-server and such? |
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| 00:31.14 | admin_ | wyzard? |
| 00:31.37 | pipeline | _frank: Not as far as I recall; that stuff is just there for netmeeting compatibility. |
| 00:31.47 | _frank | pipeline: ok |
| 00:31.51 | _frank | but how do i get started? |
| 00:31.52 | scarynetworkguy | admin_: you need a goat two chickens and knife. Got that? |
| 00:31.55 | _frank | i just cant find out |
| 00:32.02 | admin_ | ok |
| 00:32.04 | _frank | pipeline: how do i set up a server? |
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| 00:32.29 | NuBus-PPC | and surgical tubing |
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| 00:33.24 | dondelelcaro | NuBus-PPC: you can just use goat intestine... |
| 00:33.40 | admin_ | ok i got to sleep |
| 00:33.42 | NuBus-PPC | how quickly I forget the old ways. |
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| 00:33.53 | en-d | ok, i'm still at a loss to why make goes into an endless 'configure' like loop |
| 00:33.57 | admin_ | bye guys |
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| 00:34.16 | dondelelcaro | en-d: eh? which makefile? |
| 00:34.35 | en-d | any makefil |
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| 00:35.12 | en-d | it's done the same thing fro python2.3.4 and nmap |
| 00:35.12 | dondelelcaro | en-d: and you have build-essential installed, right? |
| 00:35.40 | en-d | ill check |
| 00:35.55 | _frank | which port do gnomemeetting use? |
| 00:36.03 | pipeline | _frank: Good question, this is a lot harder than I remembered. |
| 00:36.22 | Karhuton | When I copy files with 'cp' my overall cpu usage is up to 60-70 %. Top says 'cp' is using ~40%. hdparm reports drive is at udma5. hdparm -tT gives 700+ and 55+. Kernel 2.4.27. |
| 00:36.43 | Karhuton | Sorry, wrong channel. |
| 00:37.18 | en-d | dondelelcaro: i didn't |
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| 00:37.38 | en-d | i just installed it and it's doing the same hintg |
| 00:37.41 | dondelelcaro | en-d: well, install that, then rerun configure, and try to run make -f Makefile; |
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| 00:38.10 | dondelelcaro | en-d: you may need to delete configure.cache |
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| 00:39.28 | erik | where can I find cdda_paranoia.h? |
| 00:39.31 | erik | er |
| 00:39.33 | erik | wrong channel sorry |
| 00:39.46 | _frank | is it possible to set password on gnomemetting? |
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| 00:40.15 | en-d | i delected the entire directory/then untar'd it |
| 00:40.16 | en-d | same thing |
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| 00:40.21 | en-d | just loops through configure |
| 00:40.31 | dondelelcaro | en-d: is your system time set correctly? |
| 00:41.04 | en-d | how do i check? i havn't worried about fixing it |
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| 00:41.19 | dondelelcaro | en-d: date |
| 00:41.45 | bnoji_ | bored |
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| 00:41.59 | CaBiDe | somebody use licq 1.3 ? |
| 00:41.59 | en-d | it's off by heaps |
| 00:42.02 | en-d | how do i fix it |
| 00:42.07 | dondelelcaro | !set the time |
| 00:42.07 | dpkg | To set the time in debian, use date --set. The truly enlightened user, however, will install ntpdate and ntp-simple to have their clock set automatically on reboot, and slewed to match time servers exactly, respectively. |
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| 00:42.27 | en-d | nice |
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| 00:43.23 | JaMaLz | hello |
| 00:43.35 | JaMaLz | i installed just the base system |
| 00:43.38 | JaMaLz | what i have to do |
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| 00:43.49 | JaMaLz | to download the other stuff |
| 00:43.53 | youpi | hi someone knows what hdc: dma_intr: status=0x51 DriveReady SeekComplete Error hdc: dma_intr: error=0x84 DriveStatusError BadCRC means ? |
| 00:44.04 | dondelelcaro | JaMaLz: run apt-setup; to setup your sources.list and run aptitude and select what you want to install. |
| 00:44.04 | abrotman | !crc |
| 00:44.04 | dpkg | somebody said crc was (Cyclic Redundancy Check) A mathematical calculation that produces a number that can be used to check the integrity of a file by regenerating the number and comparing the results. |
| 00:44.28 | dondelelcaro | JaMaLz: if you aren't sure what you want to install, use tasksel |
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| 00:44.43 | carrett | hey, is the vmlinuz in the deb generated by a make-kpkge kernel_image the same as bzImage when you make bzImage? |
| 00:44.46 | pipeline | youpi: Means cross your fingers and hope it's the cabling and not the drive |
| 00:45.08 | dondelelcaro | carrett: pretty much. |
| 00:45.10 | CaBiDe | somebody use licq 1.3 ? |
| 00:45.11 | JaMaLz | it gave me broken package |
| 00:45.20 | smarthur | i just got deiban installed on my system, but i cant get it to recognize my usb keyboard/mouse... any thoughts? |
| 00:45.21 | dondelelcaro | CaBiDe: just ask your question already. |
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| 00:45.38 | youpi | pipeline i try 2 hd with 3 different distrib i have always teh same error |
| 00:45.50 | dondelelcaro | !usb mouse |
| 00:45.50 | dpkg | usb mouse is, like, "MAKEDEV input", or apt-get install kernel-doc-`uname -r` && zless /usr/share/doc/kernel-doc-`uname -r`/Documentation/usb/input.txt.gz or ask me about "usbmouse" |
| 00:46.00 | JaMaLz | dondelelcaro i'm using net install |
| 00:46.09 | CaBiDe | dondelelcaro: do u use ? |
| 00:46.13 | youpi | pipeline what u mean by cabling? |
| 00:46.14 | abrotman | !u |
| 00:46.14 | dpkg | Dammit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. |
| 00:46.20 | CaBiDe | need licq 1.3.0 history upgrade |
| 00:46.22 | carrett | anyone had success with a 2.6 kernel and cdburning? if so, which version? i'm really thinking of switching back to 2.4/ide-scsi |
| 00:46.23 | CaBiDe | i need licq 1.3.0 history upgrade |
| 00:46.55 | deadcat | !wud |
| 00:46.55 | dpkg | nun uv us wull unswer yu uf yu ask luke u murun. |
| 00:46.56 | abrotman | carrett: works for me |
| 00:46.57 | GarySaved | I just got Konqueror to work, but the mouse does not do anything to links. |
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| 00:47.05 | carrett | abrotman, which version? |
| 00:47.13 | deadcat | hmm |
| 00:47.18 | abrotman | carrett: it's worked in all i've used so far .. currently 2.6.7 |
| 00:47.32 | carrett | abrotman, ok you haven't tried any higher than 2.6.7? |
| 00:47.37 | abrotman | carrett: should i? |
| 00:47.49 | rdarch | what modules do i need to compile into a kernel to get an sata happily running, i had it running before but it now looks like it was just luck that i selected the right module in the past |
| 00:47.49 | carrett | abrotman, just wondering. because i'm getting pwned with 2.6.9 |
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| 00:47.58 | EfaistOs | why when i try to set dma to 1 it tells me setting using_dma to 1 (on) |
| 00:47.58 | EfaistOs | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:47.58 | EfaistOs | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:47.58 | carrett | abrotman, can't even kill of the cdrecord process now |
| 00:48.02 | abrotman | carrett: dunn .. ask #linux maybe? |
| 00:48.05 | en-d | dondelelcaro: ok, date is changed, try ./configure again? |
| 00:48.10 | dondelelcaro | en-d: yes. |
| 00:48.12 | GarySaved | Links change when the mouse goes over them, but will not activate them. |
| 00:48.14 | en-d | i dont see how the date could effect make |
| 00:48.19 | smarthur | !usbmouse |
| 00:48.19 | dpkg | To use a USB mouse, do the following: [1] get a kernel with USB, USB mouse and input/HID support; standard Debian kernels have all this. [2] cd /dev && MAKEDEV usb && MAKEDEV input [3] apt-get install usbmgr or hotplug (or if that fails, modprobe hid and mousedev by hand); it should beep at you when USB devices are (un)plugged. [5] use device /dev/input/mice, protocol exps2 for gpm, protocol ExplorerPS/2 for X |
| 00:48.32 | en-d | it worked |
| 00:48.34 | en-d | thanks |
| 00:48.42 | en-d | how? |
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| 00:49.12 | dondelelcaro | en-d: the configure script had been modified after your current time, so it had to be re-run. |
| 00:49.31 | dmb062082 | K3b uses dvd+rw-format to format DVD-RWs and DVD+RWs. Solution: Install the dvd+rw-tools package. |
| 00:49.37 | dmb062082 | but this package is installed |
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| 00:50.01 | en-d | thanks very much |
| 00:50.16 | Morydd | anyone familiar enough with ksysguard to help me figure out why I cannot connect to another machine on my network? |
| 00:51.30 | RootsLINUX | How do I find out if a process is using port 1213 on my system? |
| 00:51.33 | youpi | someone have kernel 2.6.9? |
| 00:51.35 | abrotman | fuser , lsof |
| 00:51.44 | RootsLINUX | I'm trying to setup gift and the daemon is complaining that something else is using it...I think |
| 00:52.02 | trogger | youpi: yes, I have used 2.6.9 in debian |
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| 00:52.22 | JaMaLz | how to setup through ifconfig ? |
| 00:52.35 | deadcat | JaMaLz: man ifconfig |
| 00:52.35 | AlverGone | woooo... 8 packages upgraded for woody |
| 00:52.40 | JaMaLz | deadcat thanks |
| 00:52.45 | deadcat | np |
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| 00:55.04 | youpi | trogger have seen an option to correct the diskeeper error on menuconfig? |
| 00:55.28 | trogger | youpi: can't say I have, sorry :( |
| 00:56.28 | youpi | trogger u haven't make menuconfig? |
| 00:56.38 | trogger | I use xconfig |
| 00:56.42 | abrotman | !u |
| 00:56.42 | dpkg | Dammit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. |
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| 00:56.59 | cappicar1 | U is the symbol for uranium :) |
| 00:57.21 | docgnome | Can someone point me in the direction of a proggy for configuring my gamepads? |
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| 00:59.51 | phogg | docgnome: apt-cache search joystick # will probably give you some hits you can use |
| 01:01.28 | rephlex | anyone installed debain-mips before? |
| 01:01.57 | jlacosse | Im having sound card issues, Its an old isa card! (this is an old school pc) and well neither oss or alsa is automagically working with it. I tried sndconfig but it says that i have no soundcore.o module, this is a fresh sarge install, the sound card is a Creative ViBRA16X PnP. Will anyone point me in the right direction? |
| 01:02.09 | jetscreamer | apt-get install joystick will too |
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| 01:02.38 | dvhart | I'm having trouble with imaps auth, imap works fine, but imaps just hangs (using imtest and cyrus21) |
| 01:02.43 | greycat | jlacosse: use a 2.4.x kernel (or 2.6, I suppose, but not 2.2), make sure isa pnp support is in the kernel, then modprobe sb |
| 01:03.00 | dvhart | netstat shows something listening on 993 |
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| 01:06.35 | jlacosse | greycat: cool thanks dude it appears that the modprobe sb worked , im using 2.6.7 alsa does not appear to work im going to test it with alsa |
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| 01:06.53 | jlacosse | greycat: sorry oss i mean |
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| 01:07.52 | locsmif | hi. I installed blootbot and edit the configs. it's on the same box as this irc client. however it keeps failing to connect to irc.freenode.net:6667. |
| 01:08.22 | locsmif | 01:18.47 !WARN! PERL: Can't connect to irc.freenode.net:6667! at /usr/share/perl5/Net/IRC.pm line 192 |
| 01:08.48 | greycat | locsmif: is it chrooted or anything like that? |
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| 01:09.22 | jetscreamer | try not specifying the port... mine works, all i know though |
| 01:09.26 | locsmif | greycat, nope, I tried to run it both with /etc/init.d/blootbot start and with ./usr/sbin/blootbot in a normal environment |
| 01:09.49 | locsmif | it never connects |
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| 01:10.08 | Klipper | hi |
| 01:10.09 | locsmif | 01:18.47 !ERROR! irc: conn was not created!defined!!! |
| 01:10.10 | dondelelcaro | locsmif: put all of your configs on the pastebot. /msg dpkg paste |
| 01:10.18 | Klipper | i need help with 2 problems i'm having... |
| 01:10.30 | bnoji_ | 2 problems. |
| 01:10.37 | Klipper | i need the nvidia module to load at startup, and i need to install alsa |
| 01:10.40 | bnoji_ | you get one free, the next one will cost ya |
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| 01:10.50 | Klipper | hi |
| 01:10.54 | bnoji_ | Klipper: which nvidia? |
| 01:10.56 | deadcat | !hi |
| 01:10.56 | dpkg | hello, deadcat |
| 01:10.58 | bnoji_ | closed or open? |
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| 01:11.12 | Klipper | the nvidia video drivers |
| 01:11.14 | jetscreamer | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:11.21 | bnoji_ | yes |
| 01:11.24 | Klipper | thanks jetscreamer |
| 01:11.25 | smarthur | !usb keyboard |
| 01:11.28 | deadcat | Klipper: apt-get or from nvidia.com? |
| 01:11.34 | locsmif | dondelelcaro: configs coming up, moment |
| 01:11.36 | Klipper | i did it the debian way |
| 01:11.39 | bnoji_ | Klipper: you will need to configure a kernel |
| 01:11.41 | smarthur | !usbkeyboard |
| 01:11.49 | Klipper | now about alsa....? |
| 01:11.50 | bnoji_ | Klipper: get the latest one from nvidia |
| 01:11.54 | deadcat | Klipper: if you followed the instruction. then no problem |
| 01:12.00 | Sanne | Klipper: this helped me: http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/index.html |
| 01:12.02 | bnoji_ | Klipper: download 3 packages from alsa project |
| 01:12.10 | Klipper | sanne: thats what i read |
| 01:12.11 | deadcat | Klipper: DONT get the latest from nvidia. gonan fuck your system up |
| 01:12.19 | Klipper | deadcat: i know |
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| 01:12.24 | Sanne | Klipper: :) |
| 01:12.28 | bnoji_ | alsa drivers, utils and libs |
| 01:12.43 | bnoji_ | deadcat: im using it on a TNT2 right now |
| 01:12.45 | Klipper | bnoji_: let me try |
| 01:12.47 | bnoji_ | no problem with it |
| 01:12.55 | deadcat | bnoji_: good for you |
| 01:13.07 | bnoji_ | Klipper: you need a kernel config for alsa |
| 01:13.10 | deadcat | Klipper: go to flood and i will paste you few steps to get nvidia working. |
| 01:13.21 | Klipper | deadcat: i think i got it |
| 01:13.26 | deadcat | Klipper: coo |
| 01:13.32 | Klipper | i remeber now, it IS what jetscream said |
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| 01:14.37 | Klipper | bnoji_: can i get the neccesarry pieces form apt? |
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| 01:15.02 | bnoji_ | Klipper: doubtful |
| 01:15.07 | Klipper | really? |
| 01:15.15 | bnoji_ | your best configuring for your specific kernel |
| 01:15.24 | bnoji_ | when i looked yesterday they were for 2.4.27 |
| 01:15.38 | dvhart | is there a "debian way" to create ssl certificates for use with cyrus ? |
| 01:16.03 | snappy | openssl |
| 01:16.11 | jlacosse | greycat: hell yeah its workin thanks dude |
| 01:16.16 | Klipper | couse a few months ago, i got the parts, but i had some problems, like the speakers suddenly screaming, and usually only one proc could access /dev/alsa at once |
| 01:16.52 | bnoji_ | Klipper: thats how it is, one playing at a time unless you use some sort of stream mixer |
| 01:17.10 | Klipper | bnoji_: where can i get a stream mixer? |
| 01:17.23 | jlacosse | greycat: eww it has some nasty digital noise junk when there no sound supposed to be going out |
| 01:17.31 | greycat | I think I've figured out why I can't come up with a nice, short, funny "be ALSA barbie" factoid. It's because ALSA really *is* hard! |
| 01:17.57 | greycat | jlacosse: probably noise on the bus, usually from the video card |
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| 01:18.46 | Klipper | !dmix |
| 01:18.47 | dpkg | from memory, dmix is an alsa subsystem which allows a music device to play multiple sound streams simultaneously without the need for an external sound server. See http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin |
| 01:18.48 | jlacosse | greycat: lameness |
| 01:18.48 | scarynetworkguy | greycat: how about "staying with sane defaults is HARD" |
| 01:18.49 | paster | "locsmif" at 194.159.73.69 pasted "blootbot won't connect to freenode" (229 lines) at http://channels.debian.net/paste/20 |
| 01:18.52 | werkkrew | is there an "easy" way to simply upgrade to a new kernel |
| 01:18.57 | werkkrew | and get rid of the old one |
| 01:19.01 | locsmif | dondelelcaro: http://channels.debian.net/paste/20 |
| 01:19.02 | werkkrew | on a fresh install |
| 01:19.14 | Klipper | should i use dmix or arts, or what? |
| 01:19.18 | dvhart | werkkrew, apt-get install kernel-image...new |
| 01:19.22 | dvhart | werkkrew, reboot |
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| 01:19.31 | dvhart | werkkrew, apt-get remove kernel-image...old |
| 01:19.31 | werkkrew | my netinstall disk always installs the 2.4.27 |
| 01:19.33 | bnoji_ | Klipper: i just setup dmix today |
| 01:19.34 | bnoji_ | works well |
| 01:19.49 | dvhart | werkkrew, try using linux26 with the install disc |
| 01:19.52 | Klipper | bnoji_: how much hasstle was it?? |
| 01:20.09 | Sanne | Klipper: you also might look into JACK: http://jackit.sourceforge.net/ |
| 01:20.25 | locsmif | dondelelcaro: my ircII.servers file just contains orwell.freenode.net and irc.freenode.net |
| 01:20.28 | dondelelcaro | locsmif: hrm... looks ok to me. |
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| 01:20.42 | aficionado | Hi |
| 01:20.51 | aficionado | is it easy to setup VPN in linux? |
| 01:21.28 | locsmif | dondelelcaro: ok, then I guess it's sniffing/debugging time :) |
| 01:21.50 | werkkrew | then I get the kernel sources for the new one if I need to recompile it |
| 01:21.52 | locsmif | well sniffing is not useful at this point, since I don't think a connection attempt is ever made |
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| 01:22.35 | scarynetworkguy | aficionado: ask a something that makes sense |
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| 01:23.23 | scarynetworkguy | locsmif: of course trying a sniff would tell you if an attempt is being made or not and then you would not have to guess anymore |
| 01:23.30 | aficionado | scarynetworkguy: I am new to linux and was just wondering how much work I would have to do to connect to a VPN. |
| 01:23.36 | greycat | scarynetworkguy: come on, that question has a very simple answer ;-) |
| 01:23.41 | greycat | aficionado: a lot. |
| 01:23.45 | scarynetworkguy | aficionado: could you vague it up a little |
| 01:24.06 | dondelelcaro | locsmif: anyway, what is failing is line 288 of /usr/share/perl5/Net/IRC/Connection.pm |
| 01:24.08 | scarynetworkguy | greycat: true true :) |
| 01:24.17 | locsmif | scarynetworkguy: true |
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| 01:24.25 | scarynetworkguy | locsmif: *nod* |
| 01:24.31 | locsmif | dondelelcaro: useful lead |
| 01:24.33 | dondelelcaro | locsmif: if you run the blootbot under -d and stop at that line, it'll probably become totally obvious what is going on. |
| 01:24.37 | aficionado | so its not like in windows... click New connection... enter a few parameters and you are done :-/ |
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| 01:25.03 | AlverGone | aficionado: eh... not quite, no. ;) |
| 01:25.09 | dondelelcaro | locsmif: fe, perl -d ./blootbot; b Net::IRC::Connection::connection; then step until line 288, and see what paramaters are being passed to connect. |
| 01:25.20 | aficionado | ignore that one, I was just kidding :) |
| 01:25.38 | locsmif | dondelelcaro: great! thanks, I'll do that :) |
| 01:25.39 | theon | Wich server can i use to chat in french? Thanks |
| 01:25.58 | streuner | theon: /msg dpkg french |
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| 01:26.36 | Rick-- | hi, i have got woody installed |
| 01:26.53 | Rick-- | would like to know is there any kernel packaged later than 2.4.18-5woody8 |
| 01:27.04 | greycat | Rick--: only if you build it yourself |
| 01:27.10 | Rick-- | that is the latest shown when i do apt-get install kernel-image |
| 01:27.16 | Rick-- | greycat: ohh. ok |
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| 01:27.21 | Rick-- | which would u suggest |
| 01:27.44 | dondelelcaro | Rick--: unless you have a real reason to upgrade, stick with the version in woody. |
| 01:28.12 | theon | streuner: excuse-me but can you explain? |
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| 01:28.41 | Rick-- | dondelelcaro: ermm.. any security flaws |
| 01:28.42 | jetscreamer | theon, type /msg dpkg french |
| 01:28.45 | astronut | where is dpkg hosted? |
| 01:28.49 | astronut | the bot, not the program |
| 01:28.54 | streuner | !french |
| 01:28.54 | dpkg | Vous pouvez obtenir de l'aide sur Debian sur le canal #debian-fr - For help in french, please join #debian-fr |
| 01:28.55 | dondelelcaro | astronut: in my lab. |
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| 01:29.21 | astronut | dondelelcaro: seriously, or are you being sarcastic? |
| 01:29.43 | dondelelcaro | astronut: look at the hostname if you don't believe me. *shrug* |
| 01:29.46 | greycat | !who runs you |
| 01:30.08 | dondelelcaro | heh. it's got a cloak now... I forgot. |
| 01:30.08 | astronut | he has a vhost |
| 01:30.13 | astronut | dondelelcaro: i was just asking |
| 01:30.18 | Rick-- | shall i stick with the kernel which came with the install or, install 2.4.18-5woody8 |
| 01:30.20 | dondelelcaro | Rick--: they get fixed (and have been fixed). That's one of the main reasons to use woody's kernel and not upgrade. |
| 01:30.27 | astronut | so many times you come into a channel like this, and if you're not a reg, you get sarcastic answers |
| 01:30.28 | dondelelcaro | Rick--: install the lastest one in woody. |
| 01:30.35 | Rick-- | dondelelcaro: ok.. |
| 01:30.40 | shwag | yo |
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| 01:31.11 | JaMaLz | guys |
| 01:31.20 | JaMaLz | i was using the compac net installer |
| 01:31.20 | lunaphyte | hi |
| 01:31.25 | Rick-- | dondelelcaro: ok.. |
| 01:31.35 | JaMaLz | but i have nothing installed but the base system |
| 01:31.46 | JaMaLz | and the tasksel how it works if there are no packs at my system |
| 01:31.46 | lunaphyte | i'm looking for opinions on partitioning for a new sarge install. |
| 01:31.49 | Rick-- | dondelelcaro: ermm.. when i do a "apt-get update" and"apt-get upgrade" |
| 01:31.58 | Rick-- | would it upgrade the kernel if theres a fix |
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| 01:32.12 | dondelelcaro | Rick--: depends. |
| 01:32.18 | greycat | Rick--: only if you explicitly install the "kernel-image-2.4.18-bf2.4" package |
| 01:32.23 | zho | hi room somebody can help me... it's about tv tunner... |
| 01:32.24 | zignig | helix: bleh! |
| 01:32.27 | dondelelcaro | !room |
| 01:32.27 | dpkg | CHANNEL! |
| 01:32.29 | greycat | (or any other kernel-image-* package) |
| 01:32.37 | jetscreamer | !bed |
| 01:32.37 | dpkg | i guess bed is a thing programmers have never heard of, ask me about shower |
| 01:32.39 | Rick-- | greenfly: thats what im doing |
| 01:33.48 | zho | ck ck ck. |
| 01:33.56 | zho | !ping me |
| 01:34.07 | Rick-- | greenfly: so, now it would upgrade the kernel if there a patch for it right ? |
| 01:34.19 | AlverGone | And I always thought pingtime was usually independent of direction |
| 01:34.35 | JaMaLz | where do i get files i need with apt-get |
| 01:34.37 | JaMaLz | ? |
| 01:34.40 | Rick-- | ermm.. i meant for greycat |
| 01:34.55 | dondelelcaro | JaMaLz: from your local debian mirror. Run apt-setup; to setup your sources.list; then install whatever you want. |
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| 01:35.33 | nnnnnn | debian sid uses v4l2 for the bttv devices isnit? |
| 01:35.42 | nnnnnn | how wouldi make it use v4l1? |
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| 01:36.31 | lunaphyte | if i'm installing debian on a system with a 20gb drive and a 200gb drive, what recommendations would you guys have on the partitioning? |
| 01:36.41 | JaMaLz | ok |
| 01:36.45 | JaMaLz | thanks dondelelcaro |
| 01:36.53 | initech | lunaphyte: it depends on how you use it |
| 01:37.39 | lunaphyte | initech: if you're willing to lend an ear, i can answer that question pretty specifically... |
| 01:37.41 | theon | streuner: thanpk you. It s ok now |
| 01:37.44 | bnoji_ | i usually use the smaller drive for the system partitions and store all my important data on the second larger drive |
| 01:37.46 | initech | lunaphyte: but at first glance, everything on the small drive, save for /home, on the big one |
| 01:38.02 | streuner | lunaphyte: there is an HOWTO, Partitioning Hardware at tldp.org |
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| 01:39.00 | streuner | lunaphyte: besides, if you want install it as desktop-system, it doesn't matter then... |
| 01:39.14 | zho | hi, anybody can help me? |
| 01:39.26 | streuner | zho: ask |
| 01:39.28 | zho | my tvtime-scanner cant open /dev/video0 |
| 01:39.36 | zho | what it mean? what sould i do? |
| 01:39.47 | nnnnnn | zho, hey are you using v4l2? |
| 01:40.01 | zho | hemm? |
| 01:40.09 | zho | nope im cx8800 |
| 01:40.17 | nnnnnn | ok |
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| 01:42.13 | zho | streuner: what should i do yeh? i already add my user to video group...is that enough? |
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| 01:44.00 | rich_ | Hi |
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| 01:44.11 | Klebel | how do i see which cron events i have running? |
| 01:44.14 | streuner | zho: what app is that what you use? |
| 01:44.24 | lunaphyte | initech/streuner/ bnoji_: it will run dns, smtp, pop/imap, web, mysql, ldap and dhcpd |
| 01:44.26 | zho | tvtime |
| 01:44.35 | zho | streuner: it's tv time.. |
| 01:44.58 | zho | streuner: do you know tvtime? |
| 01:45.07 | streuner | zho: no - zapping |
| 01:45.08 | FieldySnuts | mtvtime? |
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