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| 00:00.27 | citral | smx: mpg321, cplay |
| 00:00.44 | daxxar | so, cafuego, what MTA do you like? ;) |
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| 00:00.49 | FBarthel | What to put as physical sound adapter in vmware? /dev/dsp doesnt't work. I'm using ALSA |
| 00:00.52 | cafuego | daxxar: postfix |
| 00:00.56 | daxxar | ok :) |
| 00:01.00 | daxxar | why? (= |
| 00:01.06 | citral | smx: mpg321 is straight command line, cplay is ncurses based with playlists, etc. |
| 00:01.11 | cafuego | FBarthel: Load oss emulation for alsa, and /dev/dsp will work. |
| 00:01.27 | smx | ah thank you citral |
| 00:01.28 | cafuego | daxxar: I find postfix faster than xim. |
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| 00:01.40 | citral | no problem |
| 00:01.40 | FBarthel | cafuego: Is this a package I have to download or?? |
| 00:01.51 | cafuego | FBarthel: No, it should be in the kernel. |
| 00:01.57 | daxxar | cafuego, faster performancewise? |
| 00:01.59 | cafuego | FBarthel: modprobe snd-pcm-oss |
| 00:02.02 | cafuego | daxxar: yep |
| 00:02.06 | somiaj | smx: s/mpg123/mpg321/...(: |
| 00:02.09 | daxxar | ok. :) |
| 00:02.27 | somiaj | smx: oh never mind....Im' dislexic, I must...(: |
| 00:02.29 | citral | somiaj: what the fuck are you trying to say? |
| 00:02.30 | somiaj | smx: sorry |
| 00:02.34 | cafuego | daxxar: Mind you, that may vary depending on the hardware it runs on and the amount of mail it processes. |
| 00:02.42 | somiaj | citral: I'm not able to read, fairly straight forward...(: |
| 00:02.48 | FBarthel | cafuego: Ok let me try. Is there some command sequence to test if it works? |
| 00:03.00 | daxxar | cafuego: of course :) |
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| 00:03.05 | cafuego | FBarthel: If that modprobe runs without error, it got loaded OK. |
| 00:03.11 | citral | somiaj: they both exist, but mpg321 has a much better license than mpg123 |
| 00:03.17 | smx | terzeau whereis ? |
| 00:03.36 | dondelelcaro | there's no reason to use mpg123 since there's mpg321... |
| 00:03.48 | somiaj | citral: I know.....I use mpg321 personally, as I say, my mixup |
| 00:03.54 | citral | ok ok |
| 00:04.00 | dondelelcaro | (and odds are, if you're using mpg123, you're actually using mpg321 anyway) |
| 00:04.32 | roma | anyone know if there is an apt command to show a history of last installed packages? |
| 00:04.44 | citral | the only thing I regrate, is this mpg123-el mode for emacs, I'll have to transpose it one day or another |
| 00:04.48 | cafuego | roma: I know: there isn't. |
| 00:05.06 | citral | shouldn't be difficult |
| 00:05.08 | roma | cafuego: thanks. thats annoying. |
| 00:05.17 | citral | s/regrate/regret/ |
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| 00:05.35 | roma | it would not be hard to write that in, Im sure |
| 00:05.46 | roma | and very helpfull:-) |
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| 00:06.10 | FBarthel | cafuego: it doesnt seem to work :( |
| 00:06.20 | FBarthel | cafuego: Well at least vmware doesnt play sound |
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| 00:07.41 | grecko | samba: Depends: samba-common (= 2.2.3a-14.1) but 3.0.0beta2+3.0.0rc4-1 is to be installed <-- Anyone know how to fix this apt-get install samba error? |
| 00:07.55 | RRT | kan kmyfirewall be installed into sarge? |
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| 00:08.58 | JaMaLz | guys any one can help |
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| 00:11.24 | Zordrack | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:11.33 | Roldyx2 | hi |
| 00:12.25 | Roldyx2 | i 'm installing xoops, somebody whould help me? |
| 00:12.53 | faw | Roldyx2, try #xoops |
| 00:12.58 | Roldyx2 | ok |
| 00:13.05 | Roldyx2 | thks |
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| 00:14.01 | RRT | what is the recommended technique in sarge to create a firewall? |
| 00:14.25 | Roldyx2 | iptables |
| 00:14.27 | citral | done, emacs plays with mpg321 hehe |
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| 00:14.52 | RRT | is there a tool (used kmyfirewall in woody) to do this? |
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| 00:15.45 | l3m | kmyfirewall is also available in sarge i think, but it sucks imho |
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| 00:16.18 | mmurrian | is there a new trick to compiling modules successfully w/ kernel 2.6? all mine end up having unresolved symbols from depmod when I do make modules_install |
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| 00:17.09 | RRT | Is there a package to create tables? other than kmyfirewall? |
| 00:17.09 | FBarthel | What to put as physical sound adapter in vmware? /dev/dsp doesnt't work. I'm using ALSA |
| 00:17.12 | Roldyx2 | knetfilter - A GUI for configuring the 2.4 kernel IP Tables |
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| 00:17.24 | aFlag | i'm using sarge, is it better to install some package from unstable using aptitude or getting the package and installing using dpkg -i? |
| 00:17.25 | l3m | RRT guarddog |
| 00:17.38 | l3m | aFlag: use apt-pinning |
| 00:17.38 | dondelelcaro | aFlag: depends on the package. |
| 00:17.45 | dondelelcaro | aFlag: I'd suggest using aptitude with pinning. |
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| 00:18.16 | |_zxvf_| | Hi guys, anyone know how to install gnoppix to the hardrive using the livecd? |
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| 00:18.29 | nvs | beats me |
| 00:18.40 | The_Vulture | |_zxvf_|, that would be off topic. HAND |
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| 00:19.08 | gat | hey I just upgraded my kernel....how I do go back to the old one |
| 00:19.20 | gat | do I have to change the initrd link? vmliz? |
| 00:19.24 | The_Vulture | gat, do you have a "LinuxOLD" boot loader entry? |
| 00:19.25 | gat | vmlinuz |
| 00:19.33 | gat | in lilo.conf? |
| 00:19.53 | The_Vulture | when you boot, if you installed plain debian kernel images your previous kernel should still be available through that entry |
| 00:20.24 | gat | what file is that in? |
| 00:20.47 | somiaj | gat: when the lilo screen comes up, hit the left shift |
| 00:20.53 | gat | ok |
| 00:21.32 | gat | oh cool |
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| 00:21.37 | gat | thats a neat trick |
| 00:21.42 | gat | I never knew that |
| 00:21.52 | The_Vulture | the lilo menu should just show you all the entries by default, jsut use the arrow keys then enter.. |
| 00:21.55 | The_Vulture | *shrugs* that's what I'd do |
| 00:22.08 | gat | yeah it worked thanks |
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| 00:24.42 | Roldyx2 | i 'm installing xoops, somebody whould help me? |
| 00:25.08 | Roldyx2 | i can 't connect to database |
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| 00:25.59 | Roldyx2 | help me please! |
| 00:26.22 | faw | Roldyx2, try #xoops! :) |
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| 00:26.42 | Roldyx2 | faw, nothing |
| 00:27.04 | Roldyx2 | faw, they are sleeping!!! |
| 00:27.09 | Roldyx2 | :( |
| 00:27.20 | faw | Roldyx2, hmmm |
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| 00:28.03 | Roldyx2 | :'( |
| 00:28.41 | cappicard | heh. I have a zap script in xchat that will zap 'im for a few seconds. |
| 00:29.01 | RRT | might be a silly question but someone might as well do it. have sarge installed and it is the testing version. when it becomes the stable version can you change apt config to stable. do you have to reinstall the stable release version? |
| 00:29.10 | resiak | JohnKerry: Hmm... |
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| 00:29.24 | l3m | RRT no. you'll never have to "reinstall" debian :) |
| 00:30.00 | l3m | RRT: just change the sources.list |
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| 00:30.08 | JohnKerry | resiak, yes thanks for voting, maybe, or not, maybe yes |
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| 00:30.38 | directhex_ | RRT, if you edit your sources.list NOW and change all instances of "testing" to "sarge", when it goes stable you won't skip a beat |
| 00:30.38 | thoreauputic | RRT: if your sources.list says "sarge" it will remain "sarge" |
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| 00:30.58 | swatikiss | what is the module for the Yamaha OPL3SA3 sound chip? |
| 00:31.04 | swatikiss | i am trying to setup sound on my laptop |
| 00:31.14 | RRT | ah doing it now. :) thanks |
| 00:31.55 | resiak | JohnKerry: I'm British, so... Interesting choice of nick, is all. |
| 00:32.30 | sussudio | !britsmite resiak |
| 00:32.38 | rich_ | bbc is really leaning towards kerry rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/news/olmedia/n5ctrl/tvseq/newsnight/newsnight.rm |
| 00:33.00 | jme | hmm, having problems with GL libraries not working correctly |
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| 00:33.16 | resiak | dondelelcaro: Sorry. |
| 00:33.31 | jme | Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_clip.o": No symbols found |
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| 00:33.36 | jme | any clues on that one? |
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| 00:33.56 | jme | direct rendering is still enabled, but any GL apps (re: games) refuse to work |
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| 00:34.20 | jme | i.e. chromium segfaults, tuxracer locks up X... |
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| 00:35.35 | directhex_ | jme, nvidia drivers? |
| 00:35.42 | jme | directhex_: nope, ati |
| 00:35.56 | directhex_ | jme, fglrx? |
| 00:35.58 | jme | yes |
| 00:36.05 | jme | i figured it had something to do with that ;) |
| 00:36.17 | directhex_ | jme, sounds like you're getting better than the normal level or workingness from fglrx |
| 00:36.40 | jme | directhex_: less than i've experienced in the past though |
| 00:36.59 | jme | directhex_: on other distributions that'll remain nameless |
| 00:37.12 | l3m | jme ati drivers suck :( |
| 00:37.23 | l3m | jme: go and buy nvidia :/ |
| 00:37.25 | jme | l3m: agreed, but they generally work. |
| 00:37.44 | l3m | jme: well i've experienced otherwise |
| 00:37.47 | jme | and i'm planning to. i just want this to work in the meantime ;) |
| 00:37.48 | directhex_ | jme, that's open to interpretation. the few things that run are 50% or worse slower than an equivalent nvidia |
| 00:38.33 | jme | well anyway |
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| 00:40.00 | nanite2 | I have a Gmail account and a local domain (from dyndns.org). I want to make one of my local accounts forward email to my gmail. I've made the .forward file, but I get this error in the logs: "T=remote_smtp defer (-44): retry time not reached for any host" |
| 00:40.00 | jme | seems there are a few bugs reported, but no fixes |
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| 00:40.28 | JaMaLz | how to kill xserver cause i can't see any thing it's black screen |
| 00:40.53 | nanite2 | I'm using exim |
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| 00:42.48 | xerophyte | i have linux server one user has so many core.xxxx files how can find out which program making the core dumps |
| 00:43.12 | caphuso | xerophyte: file(1) |
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| 00:43.44 | xerophyte | caphuso, i find out its php, but i dont how to stop |
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| 00:44.06 | nanite2 | xerophyte: uninstall php :) |
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| 00:44.26 | caphuso | xerophyte: stop php from segfaulting or stop creating core files? |
| 00:44.51 | xerophyte | caphuso, i have php as apache module core.12575: ELF 32-bit LSB core file Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), SVR4-style, from 'php' |
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| 00:47.20 | johaBBa | how can i make it so only the wheel group can su to root? |
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| 00:48.54 | dondelelcaro | johaBBa: make su only +rx for the wheel group |
| 00:49.17 | dondelelcaro | johaBBa: but there's almost no reason to bother to do that. |
| 00:49.34 | nanite2 | johaBBa: they need the password anyway |
| 00:50.20 | johaBBa | dondelelcaro: well, on and isp i would like to do that. but i see now, just chmod 750, then chown root:wheel. |
| 00:50.26 | johaBBa | s/and/sn |
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| 00:50.43 | johaBBa | dondelelcaro: anyways...thanks! |
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| 00:51.00 | directhex_ | WHEEEEEEEL has landed! |
| 00:51.13 | resiak | apt and directhex_, you both rock ;) |
| 00:51.27 | yossarian` | what version of the kernel does sarge-debian come with? |
| 00:51.32 | yossarian` | 2.6.8.1? |
| 00:51.34 | l3m | yossarian`: many |
| 00:51.43 | yossarian` | l3m: you get to choose upon installation, then? |
| 00:51.44 | citral | actually they all three rocks, there is directhex_ and directhex |
| 00:51.46 | l3m | yossarian`: apt-cache show kernel-image |
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| 00:52.11 | foo_ | how do i view an iptables config file? |
| 00:52.15 | l3m | yossarian`: well it installs an ancient kernel by default, but you can use apt-get to install an new kernel. it's simple |
| 00:52.24 | directhex_ | citral, any warm fuzzy felings conveyed to directhex i can benefit from when i get into the office tomorrow |
| 00:52.30 | l3m | yossarian`: i meant: apt-cache search kernel-image |
| 00:52.34 | yossarian` | is 2.6 supported for x386 installs? |
| 00:52.46 | resiak | yossarian`: yes |
| 00:52.48 | yossarian` | l3m: because the old kernel that it installs |
| 00:52.51 | directhex_ | yossarian`, sarge is 2.4.27 by default, 2.6.7 optionally. at the moment, anyway |
| 00:52.53 | l3m | yossarian`: this will give you a list of kernels... yes, there are 2.6.x kernels |
| 00:52.55 | yossarian` | isn't compatible with my eth card |
| 00:53.04 | yossarian` | and thus I can't just 'apt-get' a new kernel |
| 00:53.09 | yossarian` | and there is no floppy drive on this laptop |
| 00:53.12 | JaMaLz | !ideo |
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| 00:53.22 | directhex_ | yossarian`, boot the installer with the "linux26" boot parameter to get 2.6 from the outset |
| 00:53.29 | l3m | yossarian`: try "linux26" instead of linux when installing |
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| 00:53.46 | EpAboY | What is the file in /proc that tells the bandwith consumption on an interface? |
| 00:53.48 | yossarian` | alright, thanks. |
| 00:53.48 | l3m | directhex_: grr don't type so fast |
| 00:53.49 | l3m | hehe |
| 00:53.52 | l3m | :) |
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| 00:54.12 | swatikiss | could someone help me with alsa and installing the opl13 module? |
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| 00:54.33 | thefly | hi |
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| 00:54.44 | thefly | is anybody experiencing problems with libfaac0? |
| 00:54.49 | l3m | swatikiss: what's the problem? |
| 00:54.51 | resiak | thefly: checked the bts? |
| 00:54.58 | swatikiss | i am unable to load the module |
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| 00:55.03 | thefly | bts? |
| 00:55.03 | swatikiss | i ran alsaconf |
| 00:55.09 | l3m | swatikiss: are you using a stock kernel? |
| 00:55.13 | swatikiss | sorry,w hat did you say? |
| 00:55.20 | swatikiss | i cleared teh screen... |
| 00:55.26 | resiak | !tell thefly about bts |
| 00:55.29 | l3m | swatikiss: what kernel do you use? do you use a debian stock kernel? |
| 00:55.42 | swatikiss | the bf24 with woody kernel |
| 00:55.44 | jharrison | anyone know how to mark a package not to be installed with aptitude? |
| 00:56.02 | directhex_ | swatikiss, does alsa on woody suport... well anything? |
| 00:56.06 | l3m | swatikiss: well i'd suggest to upgrade to a 2.6 kernel, 2.4 + alsa sucks |
| 00:56.13 | swatikiss | oh ok |
| 00:56.26 | swatikiss | my card is fully supported under alsa |
| 00:56.29 | wseth | has anyone here some experience with etherboot+initrd? |
| 00:56.33 | l3m | swatikiss: "apt-cache search kernel-image-2.6" |
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| 00:56.37 | swatikiss | k |
| 00:56.58 | directhex_ | l3m, there is no 2.6 on woody |
| 00:57.09 | directhex_ | !info alsa-base woody |
| 00:57.10 | dpkg | alsa-base: (ALSA driver common files), section sound, is optional. Version: 0.9+0beta12-3 (woody), Packaged size: 31 kB, Installed size: 220 kB |
| 00:57.23 | directhex_ | swatikiss, is your card supported in that version of alsa? ^^ |
| 00:57.23 | l3m | directhex_: ah, didn't know. |
| 00:57.29 | l3m | swatikiss: ignore my advice, then |
| 00:57.31 | l3m | :/ |
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| 00:57.51 | swatikiss | directhex_L - i believe so, but where would i check? |
| 00:58.17 | resiak | swatikiss: www.alsa-project.org might be a start. |
| 00:58.43 | swatikiss | directhex_ - alsaconf lists my card |
| 00:59.00 | thefly | resiak: i did an apt-listbugs list libfaac0 |
| 00:59.04 | thefly | resiak: doesn't say anything |
| 00:59.07 | directhex_ | swatikiss, lsmod | grep snd into #flood |
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| 00:59.30 | l3m | swatikiss: if you use your system as desktop, maybe an upgrade to sarge would be a good idea .. :) |
| 00:59.48 | resiak | thefly: didn't promise that there would be, but it's always worth a check. |
| 00:59.53 | swatikiss | i was unable to get sarge working on my laptop |
| 01:00.40 | thefly | libfaac0: Depends: mpeg4ip-libs (>= 1.0-1) but it is not installable |
| 01:00.48 | swatikiss | directhex_ - how do i write a command and not a post in flood? |
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| 01:01.28 | `RaSh | is there any new debian ? |
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| 01:01.47 | `RaSh | is there any new debian ? |
| 01:01.52 | l3m | swatikiss: on backports.org you can find 2.6 kernels for woody |
| 01:01.59 | resiak | !topicsmite `RaSh |
| 01:02.00 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon `RaSh. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 01:02.06 | swatikiss | directhex_: it lists nothing... |
| 01:02.16 | `RaSh | debian 3.0 is the latest one? |
| 01:02.33 | Tweak | Hi, my server crashed kind of this morning, I could still ping it and stuff, but it wanst accentping ssh, apache, or anything else. Where would I look to fiond a log of what happened? |
| 01:02.43 | resiak | !tell `RaSh about sarge. |
| 01:02.51 | directhex_ | swatikiss, lsmod | grep soundcore ? |
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| 01:03.07 | swatikiss | nothing |
| 01:03.07 | l3m | `RaSh http://www.debian.org/releases/ |
| 01:03.20 | JDahl | I am trying to build a kernel module with "sudo make-kpkg --append_to_version="-1-386" modules_image", but I get the error "The changelog says we are creating 2.4.25, but I thought the version is 2.4.25-1-386"... that's not something I have seen before - can anyone see what I am doing wrong? |
| 01:03.44 | l3m | Tweak: /var/log |
| 01:04.11 | Tweak | l3m syslog? |
| 01:04.23 | l3m | Tweak: for example. |
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| 01:05.05 | Tweak | l3m do I need to gzip it first? |
| 01:05.38 | l3m | Tweak: gunzip probably |
| 01:05.55 | l3m | Tweak: or just use mc |
| 01:06.00 | resiak | Tweak: or use zless |
| 01:06.00 | Tweak | mc? |
| 01:06.09 | resiak | Tweak: (rather than less, to view the log) |
| 01:06.58 | swatikiss | so, what should i do? |
| 01:07.27 | Tweak | Oct 27 06:25:01 tweak1 kernel: scsi1 (1:0): rejecting I/O to offline device |
| 01:07.27 | Tweak | Oct 27 06:25:01 tweak1 kernel: EXT3-fs error (device sdb2): ext3_readdir: directory #2 contains a hole at offset 0 |
| 01:07.29 | Tweak | is that bad? |
| 01:07.39 | l3m | Tweak "apt-get mc", it's a "norton commander" clone, it has nice functions like auto-unzip when looking at a compressed file ( but as resniak said, zless is the easiest way ) |
| 01:08.05 | The_Vulture | l3m, vim does that just fine :) |
| 01:08.16 | The_Vulture | well with gz at least, dunno about zip.. |
| 01:08.18 | l3m | swatikiss: well i'd still recommend you to install a 2.6 kernel :) .. you can get alsa to run with 2.4, but i just remember i've always had problems with it |
| 01:08.42 | l3m | The_Vulture: of course, but someone who doesn't know of /var/log is probably not the best candidate for a happy vim user :) |
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| 01:08.48 | resiak | l3m: resniak <-- some relative of woz? :p |
| 01:08.55 | swatikiss | well, alsa is running fine i thinks - it just doesn't configure my card properly |
| 01:08.57 | l3m | resiak: sorry :) |
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| 01:09.23 | JaMaLz | guys my xserver gives Caught Signal 11 Server Aborting |
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| 01:12.22 | hardy | !tell about cdrom |
| 01:12.44 | JaMaLz | is there any web server manager ? i can access my httpd from any where ? |
| 01:12.59 | arnon | hello, I'm looking for a fast ide for editing code that simmilar to http://www.editplus.com/ss/editplus.gif , any recommendation..? |
| 01:13.12 | The_Vulture | vim |
| 01:13.22 | r3v | vim -g |
| 01:13.34 | caphuso | emacs |
| 01:13.38 | arnon | The_Vulture: I'd like to be able to use my mouse to copy paste and stuffs.. |
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| 01:13.50 | l3m | arnon: KDevelop |
| 01:13.56 | l3m | arnon: Quanta |
| 01:13.58 | The_Vulture | arnon, then use gvim as r3v suggested.. |
| 01:13.58 | caphuso | arnon: uh, you can do that with vim |
| 01:14.02 | r3v | arnon: vim with -g have a gui |
| 01:14.14 | The_Vulture | or even vim with gpm I suppose, Ican't say I've tried much |
| 01:14.23 | hardy | Hello. I have upgraded my kernel to 2.4.27-1-686 and now I can't acces to my TEAC CD-Write, any idea how to solve this |
| 01:14.49 | mmurrian | hello ... I'm trying to boot linux kernel 2.6.9 that I just built ... it tells me it can't mount root "246" or some such # ... so I go to lilo and type: linux root=/dev/hdb6 and then it says can't mount "hdb6" or unknown block (0,0) ... anyone know why this might be happening? I'm in 2.2.20 now on the same root device |
| 01:15.05 | r3v | arnon: I guess it depends which language you want the IDE for... there are many for specific things |
| 01:15.05 | l3m | arnon: http://quanta.sourceforge.net/screens/mainwindow01.png , quanta.sf.net |
| 01:15.21 | arnon | oh and with integrated kind of small file explorer..., so I can double click and *pof* the code appear.. |
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| 01:15.40 | r3v | mmurrian: you compile in support for you filesystem? |
| 01:16.11 | JaMaLz | !help |
| 01:16.22 | r3v | arnon: under editors that come with kde... the advanced one does that |
| 01:16.28 | arnon | l3m: which one is smaller, quanta or kdevelop ? |
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| 01:16.35 | mmurrian | yeah, simply ext2 ... couldn't forget that |
| 01:16.42 | r3v | mmurrian: just making sure |
| 01:16.44 | arnon | r3v: I don't have kde here.. |
| 01:16.58 | l3m | arnon: quanta is for web devel, kdevelop for c++, python... |
| 01:17.04 | r3v | arnon: sorry... i don't either on this machine so i don't remember the exact name |
| 01:17.07 | l3m | arnon: i guess you want quanta :) |
| 01:17.15 | arnon | I'm gonna use it for editing java code |
| 01:17.19 | mmurrian | it seems its a common problem w/ 2.6.x ... I find a lot of complaints about it online but no solutions yet |
| 01:17.23 | l3m | arnon: kdevelop |
| 01:17.35 | l3m | www.kdevelop.org |
| 01:17.38 | arnon | l3m: what? which one? kdevelop or quanta |
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| 01:17.49 | l3m | kdevelop for code ( java , c++, python.... many more ) |
| 01:17.58 | l3m | quanta for html and css .. |
| 01:17.59 | arnon | ooh |
| 01:18.04 | sleek | i would like to be able to play dvds... is xine the best option? |
| 01:18.09 | l3m | sleek: mplayer |
| 01:18.12 | muh2000 | hi, I formated (ext3) a 229 gibibyte HDD and there are already 11gb used. does anyone know why ? |
| 01:18.25 | r3v | arnon: you could also try nvu... but it's not in the apt tree |
| 01:18.32 | resiak | muh2000: define used? |
| 01:18.34 | sleek | l3m: will that play avi, mpg, divx, and wmv? |
| 01:18.37 | JDahl | isn't "make-kpgk --append_to_version="xxx" modules_image" the normal way to build kernel modules? |
| 01:18.37 | l3m | muh2000: used or reserved? |
| 01:18.39 | l3m | sleek: yes |
| 01:18.42 | r3v | sleek: i use ogle |
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| 01:18.44 | caphuso | muh2000: that's the 5% of space reserved for root |
| 01:18.45 | sleek | cool |
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| 01:19.01 | caphuso | JDahl: what modules? |
| 01:19.39 | muh2000 | it is the 2. hdd |
| 01:19.42 | l3m | sleek: http://www1.apt-get.org/search.php?query=mplayer&arch%5B%5D=i386&arch%5B%5D=all |
| 01:19.56 | JDahl | I am trying to build an openafs module... that's how I build it before, I think. Now I get a weird error saying "The changelog says we are creating 2.4.25, but I thought the version is 2.4.25-1-386" |
| 01:20.12 | l3m | sleek: these are apt-sources for codecs, official debian doesn't have some since they're not ... *cough* all legal :) |
| 01:20.12 | muh2000 | resiak "used" = "free space 99% of 229G" |
| 01:20.36 | arnon | I think I'm gonna use kdevelop |
| 01:20.48 | arnon | thanks for the recomendations |
| 01:20.52 | resiak | muh2000: from where are you getting that? |
| 01:20.58 | muh2000 | mc |
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| 01:21.15 | resiak | muh2000: can mc display 3-digit %ages? ;) |
| 01:21.18 | tak_2 | how do i set it so that new files in a certain directory will be of user 'tak'? |
| 01:21.30 | arnon | oh one more, kdevelop is faster than eclipse, right ? |
| 01:21.31 | tak_2 | currenly, new files that are created are owned by 'root' |
| 01:21.40 | r3v | arnon: yeah |
| 01:21.46 | l3m | arnon: everything is faster than eclipse |
| 01:21.49 | r3v | arnon: i don't like eclipse at all |
| 01:21.50 | muh2000 | resiak 3 digit of what ? |
| 01:21.50 | l3m | :;) |
| 01:21.56 | r3v | l3m: hahaha... definitly :) |
| 01:21.56 | arnon | that's great |
| 01:22.35 | resiak | muh2000: you said earlier that 11gb of 229gb was used, which is _way_ more than 1%. If MC is reporting 99% free, is it not possible that it means 100% but can't fit it in? |
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| 01:23.05 | l3m | tak_2: it depends on which id the process that creates the files has... |
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| 01:23.16 | l3m | id = userid |
| 01:23.24 | sleek | is mplayer even in the repository? |
| 01:23.30 | dondelelcaro | sleek: no. |
| 01:23.30 | caphuso | 11Gib of 229GiB are pretty close to 5%. ext2/3 reserves by default 5% of space only useable as root. now guess what happened to muh2000 |
| 01:23.35 | dondelelcaro | sleek: /msg dpkg mplayer |
| 01:23.39 | l3m | sleek: follow this link: http://www1.apt-get.org/search.php?query=mplayer&arch%5B%5D=i386&arch%5B%5D=all |
| 01:24.14 | muh2000 | <- a littlebit confused :) |
| 01:24.21 | resiak | caphuso: Ah. I missed you mentioning that! |
| 01:24.23 | l3m | sleek: it's an unofficial apt-source, since it's not allowed to use some codecs on non-win32 systems |
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| 01:24.56 | resiak | muh2000: as caphuso says. |
| 01:25.07 | caphuso | you can safely trim it down to 1 or 2%, won't matter |
| 01:25.32 | muh2000 | used for root ? is that offswitchable ? |
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| 01:26.18 | sleek | l3m: what are the required .deb packages i need? |
| 01:26.20 | caphuso | muh2000: yes, but you really shouldn't even think of turning it off completely. set it to 1 or 2% instead of 5, depending on how safe you want to live and how much fragmentation you're willing to accept. read the tune2fs man page |
| 01:26.38 | l3m | sleek: mplayer-586 or -k7 and win32codecs |
| 01:26.52 | zygut | is this the webernet? |
| 01:27.01 | muh2000 | caphuso even when it is the second HDD ? |
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| 01:27.25 | l3m | muh2000: man tune2fs |
| 01:27.28 | caphuso | muh2000: why does it matter what disk it is? |
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| 01:27.57 | sleek | l3m: where are the win32codecs? |
| 01:28.00 | l3m | sleek: sorry, ti's w32codecs |
| 01:28.03 | caphuso | muh2000: did they add the "do only fragment files on the first hard disk" feature to the kernel and forgot to tell me about it? |
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| 01:28.35 | hardy | Some one knows why I have this: ' cat /proc/ide/hdc/{model,driver,media}' works ok. but 'dd if=/dev/hdc of=/tmp=test.out bs=512 count=1' says "dd: opening `/dev/hdc': No such device or address".....I'm puzzle ..... |
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| 01:28.50 | caphuso | hardy: using devfs? |
| 01:29.00 | l3m | sleek: there are also mplayer-frontends ( e.g. kplayer, kmplayer for kde ) but i prefer to use the original also in X |
| 01:29.22 | muh2000 | LOL ! well i thoght at the security option which i acociated more with the basic system instead of its 2. HDD filesystem |
| 01:29.35 | gat | hey I have a problem |
| 01:29.35 | hardy | caphuso: .....mmm...I'm not sure maybe 2.4.27-1-686 it does, Just I have upgrade to it |
| 01:29.52 | gat | My debian box is trying to bring up eth0 before it loads the module for it ... |
| 01:30.06 | gat | so I always have to do ifup manually |
| 01:30.15 | gat | how do I fix that? |
| 01:30.16 | resiak | gat: add the module to /etc/modules? |
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| 01:30.33 | gat | yes |
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| 01:30.45 | gat | near the bottom though.... |
| 01:30.51 | caphuso | doesn't matter |
| 01:31.43 | caphuso | gat: how did you install debian? |
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| 01:32.16 | arnon | I'm looking for a gui file explorer, any recomendation? |
| 01:32.26 | gat | from woody cd 1 |
| 01:32.28 | arnon | I want to be able to drag stuffs |
| 01:32.31 | gat | then upgraded to unstable |
| 01:32.37 | gat | over the net |
| 01:32.43 | arnon | copy paste by using mouse |
| 01:32.45 | caphuso | gat: there's your problem. go reinstall woody and stick to it |
| 01:32.51 | hardy | caphuso: You are right, 'dmesg | grep devfs' show me that I'm using devfs |
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| 01:33.09 | caphuso | hardy: then you need to use the devfs name instead of /dev/hdc |
| 01:33.22 | r3v | hardy: or switch to /dev/pts |
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| 01:34.20 | resiak | arnon: why not search your packages and try some out for yourself? |
| 01:34.28 | muh2000 | i have also APIC errors on CPU0 and CPU1 ... i think there is something wrong with the apic module or my hardware doesn+t support that... any disadvantages without apic ? |
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| 01:34.41 | caphuso | r3v: how is /dev/pts related to his non-working /dev/hdc? |
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| 01:35.08 | r3v | caphuso: because if he is using devfs.... switching to dev pts would make it /dev/hdc like he thinks it should be |
| 01:35.37 | hardy | caphuso: I'm looking something like '/dev/ide/host0/' but I can't find anything :-( |
| 01:36.00 | hardy | caphuso: That is the way or I'm wrong .... ??? |
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| 01:36.43 | gat | oh I noticed an error message I am getting |
| 01:36.43 | caphuso | hardy: i don't know offhand how that devfs crap calls stuff |
| 01:36.45 | gat | > SIOCSIFADDR: No such device |
| 01:36.45 | gat | > eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device |
| 01:36.53 | caphuso | wrong module |
| 01:36.55 | gat | but I can do ifup to get it to work manually |
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| 01:37.17 | r3v | caphuso: besides devfs has been decided to be obsolete... so I'd think using it a bad idea anyways. So how isn't that on topic? |
| 01:37.32 | caphuso | hardy: isn't it /dev/discs/* or /dev/cdrom/*? |
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| 01:38.17 | orochimaru | hello |
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| 01:38.56 | caphuso | r3v: what does a pseudo terminal filesystem cause devfs to handle old style /dev/hdc-like entries? |
| 01:39.04 | caphuso | s/what/why/ |
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| 01:40.30 | r3v | caphuso: I don't even understand why you are asking the question |
| 01:40.40 | muh2000 | is there a easy to use HDD benchmarkprogram for linux bash? |
| 01:40.49 | caphuso | r3v: because you said that this would be the solution |
| 01:41.00 | dmb062082 | ok man i almost have everything configed the way i want it to, installed using debian sarge auto installer, would it be easy to make a live cd or reamastered dvd so i could easily install on another system |
| 01:41.06 | caphuso | muh2000: no. but several that will work in any shell |
| 01:41.06 | sleek | my sound doesn't work ... what should i do? |
| 01:41.08 | r3v | caphuso: maybe you don't realize what I said / what I meant... cause it makes perfect sense in the way it should have been read |
| 01:41.10 | caphuso | sleek: /msg dpkg audio |
| 01:41.20 | caphuso | r3v: it doesn't make any sense at all |
| 01:41.27 | caphuso | r3v: which is why i am asking |
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| 01:41.45 | muh2000 | caphuso can you name one or two ? |
| 01:41.49 | r3v | caphuso: how you don't understand that it doesn't... blows my mind and I can't figure out why it seems it wouldn't work in your head |
| 01:41.57 | hardy | r3v: To use devfs I have previously delete all files under /dev ??? |
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| 01:42.32 | caphuso | muh2000: hdparm -tT for example, or bonnie++ |
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| 01:42.49 | muh2000 | ok thanks :) |
| 01:42.51 | selam | hii all |
| 01:42.59 | r3v | hardy: I don't use devfs... you should probably stick with caphuso on that one... he seems to use it |
| 01:43.07 | caphuso | hell, no |
| 01:43.14 | caphuso | it's a POS |
| 01:43.31 | resiak | why was devfs so absurdly widely used? |
| 01:44.00 | FieldySnuts | trendy lamers |
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| 01:44.01 | r3v | resiak: I blame gentoo |
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| 01:44.10 | caphuso | because morons are frightened if ls shows more than a couple of files at once |
| 01:44.12 | r3v | resiak: the source of most evil/stupid things :) |
| 01:44.12 | selam | i am install debian with net install but xserver not working error: could not open default font 'fixed'; any idea? |
| 01:44.12 | sleek | caphuso: it's not working... am i missing something here? |
| 01:44.23 | caphuso | sleek: a sane question |
| 01:44.33 | caphuso | selam: install x-window-system |
| 01:44.39 | sleek | caphuso: i do not know how to install sound....... |
| 01:44.45 | caphuso | sleek: /msg dpkg audio |
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| 01:44.53 | FieldySnuts | or how to ask smart questions (google for "smart questions") |
| 01:45.08 | sleek | caphuso: wtf is modconf? |
| 01:45.18 | caphuso | sleek: man modconf |
| 01:45.19 | FieldySnuts | handhold time |
| 01:45.35 | ealm | what packages should I install to get java? |
| 01:45.39 | selam | caphuso: hýms oks thansk i am trying |
| 01:45.47 | hardy | r3v how to I can disable this evil devfs ;-) ??? |
| 01:47.10 | ealm | what package should I apt-get in to get Java? |
| 01:47.19 | sleek | caphuso: how do i find out my sound card? |
| 01:47.22 | caphuso | ealm: /msg dpgk java |
| 01:47.26 | caphuso | sleek: lspci |
| 01:47.45 | resiak | !tell ealm about repeat |
| 01:47.47 | caphuso | ealm: /msg dpgk install java |
| 01:47.54 | swatikiss | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:48.06 | caphuso | boot it? |
| 01:48.32 | ealm | resiak: well excuse me for my repeat, but it was because of the IRC server split |
| 01:48.36 | Spartak | hi, i keep getting "nmbd[3664]: for workgroup MGV at IP xxx.xxx.xxx.202 failed." since i changed my ip can someone please help me!? |
| 01:48.47 | swatikiss | must i run lilo, or do anything else to run from the kernel-image? |
| 01:48.53 | resiak | ealm: I saw no split... |
| 01:48.53 | ealm | why is it that you always get that kind of replies in this chan? *sigh* |
| 01:49.00 | ealm | oh well, I did |
| 01:49.04 | caphuso | what split? |
| 01:49.22 | l3m | ealm: go to java.sun.com and download the java for linux sdk |
| 01:49.23 | caphuso | not on this network |
| 01:49.29 | ealm | a lot of people got the "now away" message |
| 01:49.45 | caphuso | ealm: what message? |
| 01:49.54 | JaMaLz | is there any web manager for apache ? |
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| 01:49.55 | ealm | oh, maybe it's the kopete IRC client then... I don't know the messeges just kept rolling |
| 01:50.10 | ealm | (02.46.27) # Ilta is now Away. |
| 01:50.10 | ealm | (02.46.27) # esh is now Away. |
| 01:50.10 | ealm | (02.46.27) # cef is now Away. |
| 01:50.14 | ealm | ....etc |
| 01:50.17 | caphuso | uhm |
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| 01:50.54 | ealm | I don't get any reply from dpkg |
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| 01:51.16 | caphuso | ealm: learn how to use your IRC client |
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| 01:51.31 | ealm | oh well, bye |
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| 01:53.09 | sleek | caphuso: ok, i have my ac97 module loaded, but still no sound |
| 01:53.14 | dmb062082 | Package unrar is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, ori s only available from another source |
| 01:53.14 | dmb062082 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:53.40 | caphuso | sleek: /msg dpkg ac97 |
| 01:53.47 | dmb062082 | me? |
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| 01:54.14 | caphuso | dmb062082: add non-free and contrib to your sources.list |
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| 01:54.28 | dmb062082 | where is the sources list? |
| 01:54.30 | paolo | Hi guys! I'm using X-Chat, and I have utf-8 fonts installed (unifont). In the server data the encoding is set to ut-8, but I still can't see some utf-8 character. Any idea? |
| 01:54.31 | dmb062082 | /etc/sources ? |
| 01:54.40 | caphuso | dmb062082: man sources.list |
| 01:54.50 | paolo | I have a debian testing box |
| 01:55.26 | sleek | caphuso: i have both loaded. |
| 01:55.41 | caphuso | sleek: "both"? |
| 01:55.44 | JaMaLz | where i can get a web manager for apache!!!! |
| 01:55.49 | caphuso | JaMaLz: a what? |
| 01:55.59 | sleek | caphuso: ac97 and via |
| 01:56.02 | caphuso | !tell JaMaLz -about ep |
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| 01:56.09 | resiak | !tell JaMaLz about repeat |
| 01:56.10 | caphuso | sleek: and is your sound working now? |
| 01:56.11 | thoreauputic | caphuso: he wants to manage the web!! |
| 01:56.23 | dmb062082 | i cant edit man sources.list in a terminal, its just arefrence doc |
| 01:56.46 | selam | caphuso: hýms xserver not working ... |
| 01:56.48 | resiak | dmb062082: _read_ the documentation. |
| 01:56.55 | resiak | dmb062082: _absorb_ its contents. |
| 01:56.56 | JaMaLz | i want to manage my web from other pc and Mozzila or IE through browser not ftp |
| 01:57.08 | caphuso | JaMaLz: you want to do WHAT? |
| 01:57.10 | resiak | dmb062082: _apply_ that knowledge to the situation at hand! |
| 01:57.28 | thoreauputic | dmb062082: /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 01:57.43 | TheCrazy_ | hi all... |
| 01:57.46 | sleek | caphuso: no |
| 01:58.03 | caphuso | are JaMaLz and dmb062082 competing for the moron of the day medal? |
| 01:58.15 | TheCrazy_ | Anyone knows some possible reason to why when I enter X my ps/2 keyboard stops working?!?? |
| 01:58.33 | dmb062082 | do non non-free and contrib have testingg states for packages? |
| 01:58.38 | dmb062082 | as im using sarge |
| 01:58.45 | thoreauputic | !confuse JaMaLz |
| 01:58.46 | dpkg | no, what was my pineapple today, JaMaLz? wellies of monarchy of tahiti with extra cream |
| 01:59.07 | JaMaLz | what |
| 01:59.10 | KrytenX | can anyone tell me if adaptec's ata133 card works with linux? |
| 01:59.13 | caphuso | dmb062082: err, i think the answer to your question is "yes", but i don't actually pretend to have understood it |
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| 01:59.27 | caphuso | sleek: and you get no useful error message? |
| 02:00.19 | TheCrazy_ | well... ppl at @debian are always much more prestative than gentoo... |
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| 02:00.37 | thoreauputic | !dict prestative |
| 02:00.39 | dpkg | could not find definition for prestative |
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| 02:00.57 | dmb062082 | wtf at unrar-nonfree |
| 02:01.01 | dmb062082 | i gotta pay for it? |
| 02:01.06 | thoreauputic | TheCrazy_: so what *does* prestative mean? |
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| 02:01.15 | mmurrian | hey, I finally got linux 2.6 to *almost* boot ... now my /dev directory is f*ed up ... I go to maintenance boot cuz it can't find my dev files ... I try to cd to it and it says its not a directory ... I try to cat it and it says it is a directory |
| 02:01.17 | resiak | dmb062082: There are two meanings of free. |
| 02:01.33 | TheCrazy_ | prestativo (in portuguese) = people that kindly help others |
| 02:01.34 | jsoft | What is a nice lean mail client, which supports writing and viewing html email? And will run ok on a p166? |
| 02:01.36 | mmurrian | do I have to use devfs? its supposed to be obsolete ... is there a better method for 2.6? |
| 02:01.37 | thoreauputic | dmb062082: err... unfree as in free speech |
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| 02:02.25 | resiak | jsoft: why not look through the package lists for lean email clients, using synaptic, aptitude or some such? |
| 02:02.37 | thoreauputic | TheCrazy_: ah I see - thanks :) |
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| 02:03.23 | caphuso | mmurrian: sure. you chose between udev and the problem it creates and the traditional, proven, working old style static /dev |
| 02:03.32 | jsoft | resiak: thats far too much work :) |
| 02:03.36 | caphuso | and no, i'm not biased ;-) |
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| 02:04.22 | mmurrian | caphuso: well ... then why do I have a file that says its a directory but also says its not a directory? ... and if I can't cd to it how can I run MAKEDEV in it? |
| 02:04.31 | thoreauputic | jsoft: maybe sylpheed claws |
| 02:04.35 | resiak | jsoft: Hmm... Does it _have_ to do HTML email? If not, something like mutt is a good bet. |
| 02:04.46 | caphuso | mmurrian: what? |
| 02:05.00 | jsoft | thoreauputic: im using that now... but it does not let me write html emails.. or view them as a single email |
| 02:05.11 | jsoft | resiak: needs to be html... |
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| 02:05.19 | jsoft | for the 'pretty is good' clients I have. |
| 02:05.21 | thoreauputic | jsoft: why do you need html email? |
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| 02:05.31 | Senn | Hello |
| 02:05.34 | dmb062082 | good unrar is installed i couldnt apt-get it though i had to dpkg -i |
| 02:05.36 | thoreauputic | ah I see - clients |
| 02:05.47 | jsoft | erm, as in business clients. |
| 02:05.47 | dmb062082 | i can remove winrar now |
| 02:05.58 | Senn | I need to install jpeglib for install GD. What is the packet in apt repository ? |
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| 02:06.04 | mmurrian | I am running linux 2.2.20 right now ... with a static /dev directory ... yet when I boot into 2.6 its no longer static ... in fact, its a 40 byte long file that cat claims is a directory and cd claims is not |
| 02:06.05 | jsoft | packet :) |
| 02:06.06 | jsoft | hehe |
| 02:06.07 | caphuso | the kind of idiots that also insist on top posting and all that crap |
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| 02:07.59 | mmurrian | you have no idea why that might be happening? its a directory now ... in 2.6 its a directory that I can't actually cd to |
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| 02:08.20 | mmurrian | and the kernel complains because /dev/null is missing, and /dev/hdb6 is missing, etc etc |
| 02:08.38 | caphuso | mmurrian: if it is a directory, then you can cd into it |
| 02:08.38 | mmurrian | but its static ... so what happens to it? |
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| 02:08.45 | mmurrian | lol |
| 02:08.53 | mmurrian | I definitely typed: cd /dev: not a directory |
| 02:09.01 | mmurrian | cat dev: dev is a directory |
| 02:09.03 | caphuso | mmurrian: and 'ls -ld /dev'? |
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| 02:09.29 | thoreauputic | murrian, you installed a 2.6 kernel in woody, right? |
| 02:09.37 | mmurrian | sarge |
| 02:09.42 | mmurrian | was woody |
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| 02:10.35 | mmurrian | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:10.57 | thoreauputic | mmurrian: no I just took a guess, frankly |
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| 02:11.32 | thoreauputic | mmurrian: because you mentioned the 2.2 kernel |
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| 02:11.54 | mmurrian | bah, this makes no sense ... I have a static /dev directory now ... I reboot and /dev is the only directory that is "broken" |
| 02:12.01 | jsoft | 2.6 is rangi, thats what the problem is mmurrian |
| 02:12.06 | jsoft | use 2.4 or 2.2 :) |
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| 02:12.36 | guestish | 2.6 sucks |
| 02:12.38 | mmurrian | aren't even number supposed to mean stable kernels ... why would they let it out of 2.5 if it doesn't work? |
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| 02:13.12 | caphuso | it's more stable than 2.4 was |
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