| 00:00.10 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: yick |
| 00:00.22 | abrotman | d0ugie: because it's your education? |
| 00:00.28 | rich_ | Yea my first unix was at a university. I was attracted by the vending machines, and it really surprised me when I found out some universities dont have unix |
| 00:00.42 | citral | KonZa: if you really fucked up you /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 by hand, can be that dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 doesn't work, in which case you can do a --reinstall or find a valid config in google, copy it and run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 again |
| 00:00.46 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: the good thing is that i am not a CS major and i dont go to that school anymore (= |
| 00:01.02 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: heh |
| 00:01.14 | xaero | !xorg |
| 00:01.14 | KonZa | citral: I see <- nice to know that --reinstall ;) |
| 00:01.14 | dpkg | xorg is an alternative X implementation (fork of XFree86 4.4RC2) from X.Org, current release is X11R6.8. It won't be packaged for Debian until after Sarge release. See http://people.debian.org/~terpstra/message/20040712.051027.74293658.html for more information. Ask me about 'get xorg' for unofficial xorg debs. |
| 00:01.24 | xaero | !get xorg |
| 00:01.24 | dpkg | rumour has it, get xorg is see http://incubator.vislab.usyd.edu.au/roller/page/Steve/20040909 - but remember: YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN. If you whine about your xorg problems in #debian, we will show no mercy. |
| 00:01.36 | d0ugie | abrotman: i'm here for the fun, not to get my learn on |
| 00:01.39 | abrotman | ok |
| 00:01.47 | d0ugie | d is for diploma |
| 00:01.52 | zbowling | my school only use to only teach Java.. then I showed them the light.. and now they teach, C/C++ (glibc and MFC), Perl, C#/Java (one class), Programming Ethics, Programming Design, Programming Project Managment |
| 00:02.03 | Gau | Hehe |
| 00:02.05 | dondelelcaro | programming ethics? |
| 00:02.16 | elpauer | zbowling for that motd screen, look at the bash prompt howto |
| 00:02.23 | jme | Bane: it runs just fine, but it seems to not want to compile/run hello world :) |
| 00:02.25 | xaero | zbowling: my school doesnt teach any programming language :( |
| 00:02.30 | jme | Bane: can you point it to your own java/javac? |
| 00:02.37 | d0ugie | i think the art department offers some kind of photoshop course.. :P |
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| 00:03.17 | jotham | dondelelcaro: programming ethics - teaches you how to troll and lurk correctly on irc |
| 00:03.24 | rich_ | I took a three semester class series that was supposed to be c, c++ and databases. Without warning they made us do the database section in java. even the teacher couldnt get it right, because java was so new at the time. |
| 00:03.34 | rich_ | Seems to me it was thrust upon us |
| 00:03.35 | dondelelcaro | here at least, they have an intro C course, then they go straight into compiler design, algorithms, assembly. Then there's a course called computer languges where you learn a language a week... |
| 00:03.44 | jme | oh well |
| 00:03.52 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: you ready for simpsons? |
| 00:03.56 | scarynetworkguy | that is a CS course |
| 00:04.00 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: yes yes I am |
| 00:04.02 | abrotman | heh |
| 00:04.09 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: :) |
| 00:04.27 | Gau | Here, is basically the same |
| 00:04.35 | Bane | monodevelop? why java... |
| 00:04.47 | Gau | Intro C (with a bit of C++ and python thrown in), then straight to Computers as Components |
| 00:05.08 | bascule | my degree goes html java, i year, algorithims and databases, robot controll ui, second year, third could be many things, AI, compilers, OS, Advanced UI etc,etc |
| 00:05.13 | dondelelcaro | http://www.catalog.ucr.edu/current/cs.html |
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| 00:05.43 | rich_ | even two year colleges are starting to get a few unix classes though. So things are getting better. |
| 00:05.46 | Bane | jme, my crashes at startup... did u install gtk sharp? |
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| 00:05.53 | resiak | Well, if we're discussing CS degrees, mine (admittedly it's Maths+CS) is Haskell for the first year, then Java. |
| 00:06.05 | resiak | Now Haskell is Computer /Science/. |
| 00:06.10 | Bane | s/my/mine |
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| 00:06.52 | mrnull | nooo.. it MUST be possible to do ip masquerading, when you're also branching a network |
| 00:07.42 | andrew` | riverside? |
| 00:07.42 | abrotman | i had so many langugaes .. i lost track now |
| 00:07.52 | KonZa | citral: hey it did work ;) (*somehow*) now my fresh debian boot with a gui-login screen ;) |
| 00:08.07 | toggle | havok. |
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| 00:09.00 | xaero | hello, how do I set up proxy? on school I need to use a http proxy to get on the internet |
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| 00:09.23 | rich_ | I used to go to san francisco a couple times a year and I saw a lot of people walking around talking to themselves. so Ive tried not to learn things I wasnt going to use, and instead focus on really important things, like my address and phone number because most of those folks lost it |
| 00:09.23 | abrotman | !proxy |
| 00:09.23 | dpkg | from memory, proxy is This is commonly a form of Internet security. You can use a proxy or proxy server to pass data between your internal network and the Internet. A machine on your network sends a request to the proxy. The proxy sends the request to a server on the Internet. Thus, it stands in for the computer on your network. The server on the Internet never knows that the request is coming from anywhere but the proxy. Thus 100 machines on your network could all a |
| 00:09.23 | dpkg | ver and it would look like the proxy was making all of the requests. Some proxies have caching and site filtering built in. |
| 00:09.32 | abrotman | yay |
| 00:09.37 | zbowling | Programming Ethics is basicly a class that first teaches the basics of clean code and KISS and documentation systems for working with other developers, second semsiter goes into OOP design concepts, planning applications to fit a customers needs, useing abstract objects and using inheritanct, polymorphisim, etc, with business rules to make enterprise level projects, and the third goes into programming concepts of working with se |
| 00:09.42 | scarynetworkguy | xaero: a proxy or a httptunnel? What are you really trying to do? |
| 00:09.54 | xaero | scarynetworkguy: connect to the internet via a proxy |
| 00:10.10 | alex | I have a box that I connect to via the Internet and also via a local network, if I set the zone 'net' for shorewall I can only connect to the box from the Internet and no longer in local; What I want to do is then to use 'all', what is the syntax I should use in the file zone ? |
| 00:10.10 | scarynetworkguy | xaero: so your school is running a proxy? |
| 00:10.20 | xaero | yep |
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| 00:10.27 | abrotman | zbowling: documentation? .. you jest :) |
| 00:10.29 | hjs | Is there any reason to have /boot on a separate partition? |
| 00:10.53 | scarynetworkguy | xaero: just plug the settings into your browser |
| 00:10.54 | abrotman | no |
| 00:10.58 | bascule | hjs, old school idea, not really |
| 00:11.01 | toggle | How can I extract a single file from a tar.bz2 file? |
| 00:11.07 | xaero | scarynetworkguy: i couldnt find http proxy in firefox |
| 00:11.08 | citral | toggle: man tar |
| 00:11.12 | bascule | goesd back to the OLD 1024 cylinder thing |
| 00:11.19 | xaero | i mean |
| 00:11.22 | xaero | i couldnt get it to work |
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| 00:11.27 | toggle | argh, I dun have man installed yet. |
| 00:11.34 | abrotman | citral: i don't think it's possible |
| 00:11.48 | xaero | and I need to be able to 'apt-get install' stuff too, scarynetworkguy |
| 00:11.52 | toggle | help me with this and that'll be the first thing i do. |
| 00:11.54 | xaero | not just use the web-browser with proxy |
| 00:11.54 | andrew` | toggle: you might have woman installed |
| 00:12.04 | rich_ | as time goes on theres less and less reason to partition. At this point, if your a personal user with a quarter gig or more of memory and you dont intend to run any servers, Id recomend one big partition for your root partition. |
| 00:12.05 | toggle | not likely.. |
| 00:12.10 | zbowling | but my school was a vactional (vocational) school in high school.. it just ment i could spend half days, my Jr, and Sr, year of highschool, jacking around downtown in a room of expert programmers gaining collage credit in the mean time |
| 00:12.17 | sussudio | no, woman installs you. |
| 00:12.19 | scarynetworkguy | xaero: I'd do a little SSH tunneling |
| 00:12.29 | xaero | scarynetworkguy: o_O |
| 00:12.32 | citral | xaero: for firefox, edit -> preferences -> general |
| 00:12.36 | scarynetworkguy | xaero: ? |
| 00:12.37 | rich_ | swapd can handle the infrequent times when you need a little virtual memory |
| 00:12.40 | abrotman | toggle: what are you really trying to do? |
| 00:12.44 | citral | abrotman: sorry? |
| 00:12.49 | abrotman | woohoo . new libtiff4 |
| 00:13.00 | bascule | http://linux.ctyme.com/ <-- toggle |
| 00:13.01 | abrotman | maybe hylafax-server will work again .. without all the hackery |
| 00:13.28 | xaero | scarynetworkguy: as long as it works and its not hard to set up =/ |
| 00:13.33 | toggle | I made this minimal system just to chroot to a gentoo install but gentoo went haywire and I want to make this more usefull. |
| 00:13.45 | abrotman | citral: huh? |
| 00:13.57 | abrotman | citral: oh . to extract one file .. i don't remember |
| 00:14.04 | citral | xaero: why don't you just ask the admin like I suggested you? |
| 00:14.11 | abrotman | toggle: so you're asking us how to install gentoo? |
| 00:14.18 | scarynetworkguy | xaero: dead easy to set up. And you're in luck I happen to be a very good mood. Wait a few minutes |
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| 00:14.29 | toggle | heh, I don't think I'lll get gentoo installed any time soon. |
| 00:14.39 | abrotman | toggle: why not use d-i? |
| 00:14.49 | toggle | d-i? |
| 00:14.54 | xaero | scarynetworkguy: hehe nice, thanks alot :) |
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| 00:15.00 | diomedes | hey how can i make it so that when one of my users logs into X only mozilla starts and displays a local webpage |
| 00:15.01 | toggle | I've allway used debian. |
| 00:15.11 | diomedes | and so they have access to nothing else |
| 00:15.18 | toggle | I want a speed increase that gentoo promised. |
| 00:16.00 | toggle | I might as well do a lfs. huh? |
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| 00:16.18 | toggle | Would you be more likely to help me with that? |
| 00:16.20 | abrotman | !gentoosmite toggle |
| 00:16.37 | bascule | heh |
| 00:16.40 | xaero | xD |
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| 00:16.51 | abrotman | toggle: we don't have the required permits to help you with anything but gentoo :) |
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| 00:16.58 | toggle | I like python more than perl.. |
| 00:17.09 | abrotman | !tell toggle about d-i |
| 00:17.10 | rich_ | toggle the gentoo benchmarks don't match the promises. They should. The only reason I can find why gentoo is not faster than debian is the expertise of the developers. I used to think it was optomisation level, but its much more complex, its all the different compile time options. The debian team just knows how to integrate things well. |
| 00:17.39 | toggle | I don't have room for bolth.. |
| 00:18.12 | abrotman | xaero: #debian or debian? |
| 00:18.18 | xaero | debian |
| 00:18.18 | zbowling | we designed an embedded gaming system in our free time at my vocational school. used an bunch of openbricks (http://www.openbrick.org) and loaded them with a source built version of linux. Made them remotet wifi video nodes for our ReplayTVs by emulating the ReplayTV protocol to make them think we were other ReplayTVs, micro consoles with lcd touchscreens, coffee machine controlers, wireless access points, cheap audio streaming |
| 00:18.25 | abrotman | xaero: amd64 will not be part of the sarge release |
| 00:18.44 | xaero | k |
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| 00:18.50 | xaero | never? |
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| 00:19.00 | xaero | =p |
| 00:19.04 | xaero | !amd64 |
| 00:19.04 | dpkg | i heard amd64 is See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel, or https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/1314/21/debian-amd64-howto.html See http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/install-images/ for ISOs. |
| 00:19.20 | xaero | the unofficial amd64-port is working great :) |
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| 00:19.58 | zbowling | anyone ever use bootp with Wifi? i heard that someone did that somewhere... seems crazy... how would you secure it? |
| 00:20.07 | abrotman | xaero: maybe sarge R1 .. ie 3.1r1 .. but not 3.1r0 |
| 00:20.10 | interbird | XMMS equalizer does not work -- volume does -- anyone to help me ? |
| 00:20.15 | deadcat | switched LAN also mean dsl router LAN right? |
| 00:20.21 | alex | shorewall problems: I can't connect in ssh via the LAN; In zones I have: 'net Net Internet' and 'all all all_IPs'; In interfaces I have: all eth0 detec norfc1918,routefilter,routestopped and all my rules starts like this: ACCEPT all fw |
| 00:20.25 | zbowling | !ia64 |
| 00:20.25 | dpkg | i heard ia64 is the new Intel Architeture which seems pretty cool. or ages behind rs64-II already. |
| 00:20.26 | Xenguy | interbird: aumix ? |
| 00:20.32 | xaero | abrotman: ok |
| 00:20.33 | Xenguy | interbird: nm |
| 00:20.40 | xaero | abrotman: sid > * ;) |
| 00:20.43 | Endain | I'm trying to get a sgid perl script to run, but I'm getting the following error message: "Can't do setuid (cannot exec sperl)". What package do I need to install? |
| 00:20.49 | zbowling | !sid burn |
| 00:20.58 | abrotman | xaero: if you say so |
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| 00:21.04 | dondelelcaro | Endain: perl-suid |
| 00:21.10 | xaero | i think sarge has too old packages |
| 00:21.18 | interbird | Xenguy: Dunno -- Alsa mizer ? -- used to work fine... |
| 00:21.23 | abrotman | xaero: it's in the freeze process |
| 00:21.27 | alex | someone ? |
| 00:21.29 | abrotman | not that it's helping it release any faster damn it |
| 00:21.34 | scarynetworkguy | xaero: apt-get install stunnel and then read how to use it here http://www.stunnel.org/ also you might try httptunnel http://www.nocrew.org/software/httptunnel.html |
| 00:21.40 | zbowling | Spank All Rageing Goates Everyone = Sarge |
| 00:21.48 | interbird | Xenguy: nm ? |
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| 00:22.01 | Xenguy | interbird: nm == never mind ; I thot you were talking about volume at first |
| 00:22.10 | xaero | scarynetworkguy: thank you |
| 00:22.19 | Endain | dondelelcaro: thanks! |
| 00:22.20 | scarynetworkguy | xaero: sure thing |
| 00:22.54 | interbird | Xenguy: Nope... XMMS - soundcard does not respond to equalizer settings anymore -- that's my prob... |
| 00:23.01 | toggle | can I make a functional debian install without perl? |
| 00:23.13 | xaero | scarynetworkguy: httptunnel will tunnel everything thru the proxy, right?: ) |
| 00:23.14 | xaero | :) |
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| 00:23.49 | scarynetworkguy | xaero: that's the idea. |
| 00:24.01 | xaero | okay, thanks :) |
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| 00:24.14 | xaero | i'll quickly install it before i go to school tomorrow. bye :) |
| 00:24.36 | xaero | see you |
| 00:24.47 | interbird | Mizer2001: your name implies help for me. Can you help me revive XMMS's equalizer ? -- it seems t have died on me. |
| 00:25.06 | mixer2001 | xaero, |
| 00:25.23 | xaero | yes, mixer2001 ? |
| 00:25.35 | mixer2001 | c |
| 00:25.39 | mixer2001 | cU |
| 00:25.42 | mixer2001 | :) |
| 00:25.47 | xaero | !u |
| 00:25.48 | dpkg | Dammit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. |
| 00:25.49 | toggle | oh, nm I meant mixer2001's.. |
| 00:25.51 | rich_ | interbird oh it worked before? Theres some button on it like "auto" did you try clicking that? |
| 00:26.21 | interbird | toggle: Just toggled something -- don't mourn; it's workin' again -- trankx for your greeve :-) |
| 00:26.39 | xaero | how do i make apt install the 'recommends' of a package when i apt-get install |
| 00:26.45 | sachin | hi when is sarge comming out |
| 00:27.04 | interbird | rich_: yep, as it does now -- maybe it's just me... |
| 00:27.06 | toggle | yay. |
| 00:27.08 | alex | ok can someone help me out with shorewall please |
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| 00:27.29 | rich_ | sachin very soon, probably just a few months |
| 00:27.30 | toggle | If I don't want perl can I find another pkg mgr? |
| 00:27.33 | sachin | because i want to install debian on one of my pcs, and i want to install sarge final, because woody is too old, if the wait for sarge is too long i will either install woody ot another distro |
| 00:27.47 | sachin | rich_: ok |
| 00:27.53 | Xenguy | alex: I don't really have a lot of time, but what is the problem? |
| 00:28.23 | interbird | toggle: Why would you not want pearl ? |
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| 00:28.49 | alex | Xenguy: I cannot connect via ssh on a LAN when shorewall is enable |
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| 00:29.21 | interbird | alwx: ssh-port is open ? |
| 00:29.29 | interbird | alex: ssh-port is open ? |
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| 00:29.45 | alex | Xenguy, shorewall problems: I can't connect in ssh via the LAN; In zones I have: 'net Net Internet' ; In interfaces I have: net eth0 detec norfc1918,routefilter,routestopped and all my rules starts like this: ACCEPT all fw |
| 00:29.49 | alex | interbird: yes |
| 00:29.51 | jotham | can i compile a kernel for my pentium 100 on a p2 400? (both running debian sarge) |
| 00:29.59 | xaero | jotham: yes |
| 00:30.06 | interbird | alex: sshd is running ? |
| 00:30.18 | jotham | using the kernel-image package seems to create a 14 mb ram disk, which is a bit excessive since i only have 32 mb of ram |
| 00:30.28 | alex | interbird: yes basically I get disconnected when I switch shorewall on |
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| 00:30.48 | mdsrlz | how can I turn and partition Bootable to add to lilo.conf |
| 00:30.54 | mdsrlz | : anybody know |
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| 00:31.09 | jotham | can i use kernel-image packages without it perminently taking 15mb of my systems ram? (For the ramdisk tempfs) |
| 00:31.12 | interbird | alex: maybe you'r connecting with ssh protocol #1 while it might be diabled. |
| 00:31.19 | Tweak | hi, how can I tell if a motherboard is debian friendly? |
| 00:31.21 | toggle | interbird: suppose I wanted the extra space.. |
| 00:31.24 | Xenguy | alex: in zones, do you have -> loc Local Local networks |
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| 00:31.33 | doodle | hi , say I translated the debian install guide to my native language. what should I do for debian to include it ? ( or maybe not now, since sarge is about to be released (??)) |
| 00:31.34 | jotham | xaero: so i just compile for 386/586 on the p2 eh |
| 00:31.35 | toggle | I'd rather have python... |
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| 00:31.40 | alex | Xenguy: no only net |
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| 00:31.49 | xaero | jotham: yea |
| 00:31.56 | jotham | cool |
| 00:31.57 | rich_ | jotham if its tmpfs it doesnt use the memory until its needed. df shows the maximum it will allow. |
| 00:32.07 | xaero | whats a simple program to show images |
| 00:32.13 | interbird | toggle: Then I will send you my 10GB hd for free. |
| 00:32.17 | abrotman | stupid stupid comcast dns |
| 00:32.18 | doodle | xaero , gqview |
| 00:32.32 | xaero | doodle: thanks |
| 00:32.40 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: what are thy doing to you this time? |
| 00:32.51 | toggle | interbird: I appreciate that but no thanks. |
| 00:33.01 | jotham | rich_: oh i see, so if 0% of the tempfs /dev/shm is used then 0% of my ram is being used by it? |
| 00:33.05 | toggle | I'd like this challenge. |
| 00:33.12 | interbird | toggle: Then remove perl and sh |
| 00:33.12 | doodle | no one knows :/ |
| 00:33.34 | Spark | xaero: qiv |
| 00:35.05 | toggle | I need a pkg mgr that doesnt require it. |
| 00:35.06 | alex | Xenguy: if I put this line besides the net one I got a warning saying ZOne loc is empty and then I got errors Undefined Client Zone in rule "ACCEPT all fw balabla" |
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| 00:35.25 | alex | Xenguy: the easiest would be to have the zone all in zones, what is the syntax I have tried -> all all allIps |
| 00:35.29 | Tweak | hi, how can I tell if a motherboard is debian friendly? Any websites ? |
| 00:35.31 | trilobyte | hello, how do i burn VIDEO_TS/*.vob files to a dvd so i can play in dvd player? is it iso9660? sorry, never burned a dvd before in linux. |
| 00:35.33 | interbird | alex: Can you connect with no FW at all ? -- that should determine the place where things block ? |
| 00:35.33 | Xenguy | alex: do you use pppoe/dsl ? |
| 00:35.39 | alex | the box is so far plugged to a adsl router |
| 00:35.40 | rich_ | jotham yes. In my case, I have a half gig of ram and I have a shell script that always makes sure my tmpfs (which is on /tmp) has a full gig available on it... it resizes the maximum. And I use swapd. But it doesnt actually start useing swapfiles until I actually put a few hundred megs into the tmpfs partition. |
| 00:35.51 | alex | Xenguy, the box is so far plugged to a adsl router |
| 00:35.59 | alex | interbird: yes I can |
| 00:36.07 | jotham | cool |
| 00:36.17 | alex | interbird: I get disconnected as soon as I enable the firewall |
| 00:36.25 | rich_ | jotham So I know it isnt takeing memory until it gets used because it it was, it would need to create swap files |
| 00:37.01 | interbird | Tweak: Debian loves all MB's; -- it's just not always the other way around... |
| 00:37.01 | alex | Xenguy: shorewall version is 1.2.1 |
| 00:37.33 | gnufan | How does medusa (the text indexer) integrate with Natilus. I'm thinking maybe medusa has got ahead of GNOME in testing?! |
| 00:37.52 | Xenguy | alex: run with interbird - I just don't have time -- you should model your configuration after the '2-interface' or '3-interface' stuff that the shorewall author has prepared -- all you have to is be methodical, otherwise mistakes are going to happen me thinks |
| 00:37.52 | Tweak | interbird even a crap motherboard such as ecs "elite group computers" VERY cheap board. |
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| 00:37.58 | interbird | alex: So, your FW is the offender -- enabled port 22 ? -- All the way through ? |
| 00:38.23 | Xenguy | alex: although beware using e.g. 'eth0' when you really mean 'ppp0' (that one bit me) |
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| 00:38.32 | Xenguy | alex: s/although/also |
| 00:38.44 | interbird | Tweak: To try is to know... |
| 00:38.58 | Tweak | to try is to waste money |
| 00:39.04 | zbowling | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:39.04 | Tweak | to know is to not waste money |
| 00:39.12 | zbowling | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:39.16 | alex | interbird: ok, the rule for ssh is ACCEPT all fw tcp 22 |
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| 00:39.43 | fusion | anyone able to help with an ipv6 prob here? I tried #ipv6 but nobody seems to be there.... |
| 00:39.50 | interbird | Tweak: Asking without trying is coasting others (time) / (money) :-) |
| 00:40.16 | Tweak | interbird ok im done talking to u. Anybody else know where I can get a compatiblity list? |
| 00:40.55 | interbird | alex: ok, here's how to deal with thid problem... |
| 00:41.00 | rich_ | zbowling Interesting you should mention that, apparently parole enforcement is a real niche nowdays |
| 00:41.10 | interbird | alex: Note your FW rules. |
| 00:41.23 | scarynetworkguy | Tweak: google on known problems with the mobo you are looking at FFS. It's a kernel thing not a Debian thing |
| 00:41.25 | interbird | alex: Then erase all rules. |
| 00:41.31 | alex | interbird: ok |
| 00:41.36 | dan2 | how do you make pie charts in Openoffice |
| 00:41.43 | interbird | alex: Then apply them untill you get the one that blocks ssh |
| 00:41.46 | sussudio | hmm pie. |
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| 00:42.19 | interbird | adan2: I like choclate... |
| 00:42.30 | sussudio | everybody loves the chocolate |
| 00:42.36 | sussudio | nobody hates the chocolate |
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| 00:42.47 | interbird | So, veryobe like pie :-) |
| 00:42.53 | interbird | (oops) |
| 00:43.07 | gnufan | dan2: Insert chart, right click, pick chart type |
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| 00:43.51 | alex | interbird: ok with no rules at all, I get disconnected still |
| 00:43.55 | interbird | dan2: You can even connect a pie to a database -- how's that for a taste ? |
| 00:44.11 | alex | interbird: should not we try to set the zones file ? |
| 00:44.28 | alex | interbird: should I have two line or one ? net and loc ? or just net ? |
| 00:45.02 | interbird | alex: are you local ssh-ing or via the internet ? |
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| 00:45.36 | alex | interbird: I am preparing the box, so far I am in local and tomorrow I will connect through the net |
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| 00:46.49 | interbird | alex: fine, are you now on your local subnet (192.... 176.... 10....) or else ? |
| 00:46.50 | Gau | Damnit |
| 00:47.01 | alex | interbird: yes local 192 |
| 00:47.07 | dan2 | gnufan: interbird: thanks |
| 00:47.08 | interbird | alex: (172...?) |
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| 00:47.20 | interbird | alex: kee, so that's local. |
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| 00:47.51 | interbird | alex: switch to #bliep ? |
| 00:48.04 | mdsrlz | how can I change an partition Logical Bootable: |
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| 00:48.33 | nvz | mdsrlz: try to clarify that question. |
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| 00:48.44 | nvz | abrotman_: nice tail |
| 00:48.50 | mdsrlz | nvz i have windows Xp installed on a logical parition ok |
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| 00:48.58 | nvz | mdsrlz: ok |
| 00:49.00 | mdsrlz | i want to change this parition to Bootable |
| 00:49.06 | mdsrlz | to add this on lilo |
| 00:49.10 | mdsrlz | whatelse its not possible |
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| 00:49.35 | nvz | mdsrlz: bootable is a partition flag, its not anything to do with logical or primary partitions |
| 00:49.52 | nvz | mdsrlz: what is the problem you are having here? |
| 00:50.08 | mdsrlz | nvz i'm trying to add my partion hda5 to lilo.conf |
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| 00:50.36 | mdsrlz | nvz |
| 00:50.37 | nvz | mdsrlz: so windowsXP is on /dev/hda5? |
| 00:50.40 | mdsrlz | yes |
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| 00:50.43 | sussudio | abrotman abrotman_ abrotman__ mushroom snaaake |
| 00:50.44 | mdsrlz | when I type lilo |
| 00:50.46 | mdsrlz | it returns: |
| 00:50.48 | mdsrlz | Fatal: Partition entry not found. |
| 00:50.48 | mina_linux_Tux | hello |
| 00:50.49 | nvz | nvz: did you install windows after linux? |
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| 00:50.57 | mdsrlz | no, linux after windows |
| 00:51.02 | mdsrlz | linux = hda1 |
| 00:51.04 | jotham | nice, this radiostation is playing 4 hours of music from the 1920s,1930s |
| 00:51.08 | nvz | mdsrlz: how did windows get on /dev/hda5? |
| 00:51.13 | mdsrlz | windows = hda5 (logical) |
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| 00:51.35 | nvz | mdsrlz: yes. how did windows end up being installed to a logical partition? |
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| 00:51.50 | mina_linux_Tux | hello all |
| 00:51.58 | mina_linux_Tux | is there a real player for debian |
| 00:52.02 | mdsrlz | nvz i ditns understand, sorry.. i'm brazilian ;( |
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| 00:52.08 | mdsrlz | bad english |
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| 00:52.19 | JTMarlin | i have a questino about fetchmail. I have two pop3 accounts that i want to use with fetchmail. I know how to configure fetchmailrc to do this, but i DONT know how to set it up so that it puts mail from each account into a separate folder. Any ideas? |
| 00:52.19 | snow | hello, how possible it is to decode ncftp password in bookmarks file? |
| 00:52.23 | nvz | mina_linux_Tux: any player will work, you just need the w32codecs package from marillat |
| 00:52.24 | rich_ | mina_linux_Tux yes theres realplayer 10 and now there is helix-player too |
| 00:52.25 | xLobeznox | mina_linux_Tux, realplayer 10, works with gtk2 |
| 00:52.26 | snow | and how should i do it? |
| 00:52.31 | nvz | mina_linux_Tux: /msg dpkg mplayer |
| 00:52.36 | rich_ | mina_linux_Tux which realplayer 10 is based on |
| 00:52.39 | bbrazil | JTMarlin: use procmail to split it |
| 00:52.43 | snow | mhm? |
| 00:52.50 | mdsrlz | nvz but windos Xp is at hda5, ok.. can I boot this |
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| 00:53.23 | bbrazil | JTMarlin: also, fetchamil can pass stuff to an arbitraty program, and procmail can take extra args to be passed to the procmailrc, or to direct it to a different procmailrc |
| 00:53.30 | nvz | mdsrlz: ok. there is a channel where people speak portuguese, its #debian-br. I do not think you can boot windows when its on a logical partition, and furthermore I dont know how you even accomplished installing it to one. |
| 00:53.37 | JTMarlin | bbrazil: i know how to sort based on header fields in procmail, but not by account |
| 00:53.46 | JTMarlin | bbrazil: ah, ok, i suppose i could pass extra args |
| 00:53.50 | rich_ | mms://146.101.200.150/WAMTV is a great channel |
| 00:54.04 | mdsrlz | nvz i think that is because I installed windows after linux |
| 00:54.07 | mdsrlz | but i donw know too |
| 00:54.08 | bbrazil | JTMarlin: just find a header thats different |
| 00:54.15 | Gau | Grr. Stupid find app keeps crashing when I try to find from file:/ |
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| 00:55.15 | nvz | mdsrlz: well this is not a Debian issue. and you cannot speak english well enough to even explain it properly. You've contradicted yourself. |
| 00:55.25 | JTMarlin | bbrazil: well, i hate to rely on headers that way because there is nothing to gaurantee that the headers will have something different between those two accounts ... well, there might be, i'm not sure. In any case, i think the extra arguements thing you're talking about is probably the way to go |
| 00:55.44 | nvz | mdsrlz: if you have debian issues, and need help in portugese, /j #debian-br |
| 00:55.54 | mdsrlz | nvz ok! tks |
| 00:55.57 | snow | how should i decode my ncftp password? |
| 00:56.18 | Coveiro[] | hi! I'd like to know if there is someone who uses glade-- and is able to help me |
| 00:56.19 | thingfish | hmm. I come from other distros, it's rather disconcerting to see nothing in /usr/src |
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| 00:57.01 | rich_ | thingfish thats where I put upstream kernels |
| 00:57.03 | snow | can i decode |
| 00:57.09 | snow | my ncftp password? |
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| 00:57.47 | nvz | I find it funny I would tell someone they dont speak english well.. its like the hardest language to learn, and most everyone who speaks it nativly doesnt even speak it well |
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| 00:58.00 | _abrotman | i win |
| 00:58.03 | thingfish | nvz: isn't THAT the truth |
| 00:58.06 | snow | maybe somebody can compile crackncftp.c for me? because it makes alot of errors for me |
| 00:58.07 | Coveiro[] | ?? |
| 00:58.09 | jme | nvz: thems's fightin werds |
| 00:58.11 | jme | nvz: ;) |
| 00:58.12 | xLobeznox | english is a stupid language for stupid people hahaha |
| 00:58.12 | thingfish | lol |
| 00:58.15 | xLobeznox | like bush |
| 00:58.18 | thingfish | amen |
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| 00:58.22 | nvz | xLobeznox: yeah |
| 00:58.24 | nvz | heh |
| 00:58.36 | sussudio | since when do they speak english in the US? |
| 00:58.41 | thingfish | although english is not a stupid language, that was a troll statement |
| 00:58.44 | jme | yeah, we speak 'merican |
| 00:58.54 | jme | and spanish |
| 00:58.55 | thingfish | heh |
| 00:58.58 | thingfish | si |
| 00:59.00 | xLobeznox | noretamerican should speak french, gaelic and native languages |
| 00:59.03 | xLobeznox | f:) |
| 00:59.17 | nvz | xLobeznox: "We got this saying in Texas... Fool me once shame on you ... if fooled once you can't get fooled again, you see." |
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| 00:59.30 | sussudio | 1 abrotman 2 abrotman 3 abrotman 4..... |
| 00:59.32 | xLobeznox | thingfish, really I think english is not a beatyfull language |
| 00:59.34 | abrotman | ok .. i'm abrotman now? |
| 00:59.36 | abrotman | yay |
| 00:59.37 | thingfish | no, that's a song by The Who |
| 00:59.51 | xLobeznox | neither intelligent language, no emotional issues |
| 00:59.52 | abrotman | i just couldn't deal with comcast dns any more |
| 00:59.56 | xLobeznox | :P |
| 01:00.09 | jme | abrotman: install bind ;) |
| 01:00.12 | jme | abrotman: that's what i did |
| 01:00.17 | rich_ | abrotman so you now run your own dns server? |
| 01:00.19 | thingfish | oh, I know it's not beautiful sound, I agree there, even though it's my native language. there are more beautiful sounding languages. |
| 01:00.20 | abrotman | jme: i'm at home .. run dns servers at work |
| 01:00.28 | abrotman | so .. i figure i can use those :) |
| 01:00.46 | abrotman | i gotta find comcast ones that owrk |
| 01:00.50 | xLobeznox | thingfish, I dont have any relationship with my native language, you can say waht you want about it |
| 01:00.52 | thingfish | japanese is beautiful sounding |
| 01:00.53 | abrotman | because the ones they give me .. suck .. bad bad bad |
| 01:00.59 | abrotman | like .. salt on your cuts |
| 01:01.03 | jme | abrotman: good call |
| 01:01.20 | nvz | abrotman: you're in PA? |
| 01:01.23 | abrotman | nvz: yes |
| 01:01.28 | abrotman | it's just excessive traffic .. |
| 01:01.34 | rich_ | the ones they give me get set by dhcp. They work ok |
| 01:01.50 | abrotman | rich_: mine .. do not . they resolve about . 25% of the time |
| 01:02.05 | nvz | abrotman: so comcast, formerly known as AT&T broadband, formerly known as AT&T @home, formally known as TCI @home.. |
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| 01:02.13 | nvz | abrotman: yeah they always had DNS issues |
| 01:02.33 | nvz | abrotman: you'd think their DNS servers were running Win 3.11 for Workgroups or something |
| 01:02.34 | rich_ | I used to run bind but found it was faster to just use their servers |
| 01:02.36 | abrotman | nvz: but this is horrible |
| 01:02.47 | abrotman | nvz:like .. jeez .. get a linux box or something :) |
| 01:02.59 | rich_ | But then again I get the mad throughput too. Its probably because its new |
| 01:03.14 | rich_ | they installed it in the last decade |
| 01:04.24 | rich_ | well out here in salem oregon it probably doesnt get over used. Cable seems to be better in places where no one uses it |
| 01:04.33 | mina_linux_Tux | must the swap be double the memory capacity or can i increase it whatever is my memory for example os 128 -.. increase it to 512...? |
| 01:04.45 | abrotman | rich_: speed is fine .. it's the damn dns |
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| 01:05.18 | rich_ | abrotman well a great many people cache the hosts locally for that reason. |
| 01:05.30 | jharrison | mmmmmm speed |
| 01:05.46 | snow | WHO CAN COMPILE http://packetstormsecurity.nl/Crackers/CrackerNcftp.c FOR ME ? I CAN'T DO IT MYSELF! |
| 01:05.47 | abrotman | rich_: oh .. but this is horrible |
| 01:05.50 | snow | WHO CAN COMPILE http://packetstormsecurity.nl/Crackers/CrackerNcftp.c FOR ME ? I CAN'T DO IT MYSELF! |
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| 01:06.18 | abrotman | snow: none of us |
| 01:06.28 | snow | i need my passwords from the bookmark |
| 01:06.32 | snow | abrotman, why? |
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| 01:06.39 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@apocalypse.5ci.lt] by caphuso |
| 01:06.39 | abrotman | because you speak in caps |
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| 01:07.01 | Kbyte | I need money! please send me something! ghgh |
| 01:07.27 | thingfish | I need gin! Please send me something! |
| 01:07.34 | nvz | Nigel: oh, I love the cloak.. real creative |
| 01:08.19 | thingfish | I would settle for some nice vintage port. |
| 01:08.32 | nvz | heh |
| 01:08.48 | helix | abrotman: why do you even speak to those .... people? |
| 01:08.59 | abrotman | helix: i'm sorry .. it's like i'm a deer in headlights :) |
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| 01:09.17 | helix | abrotman: you should never mistake an IRC user for a human being without more evidence |
| 01:09.21 | nvz | heh |
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| 01:09.47 | Nigel | nvz: scarism or honesty? |
| 01:10.00 | helix | I'm not clever enough to be a cat |
| 01:10.01 | nvz | Nigel: </sarcasm> |
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| 01:10.38 | nvz | helix: that would explain what happened to the LCD on your laptop |
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| 01:10.41 | enigmus | hi. How do I recreate the initrd coming with kernel-image-2.6.9-1-686? |
| 01:10.49 | helix | I don't have a laptop |
| 01:10.58 | nvz | heh, you said you have a lap |
| 01:10.59 | caphuso | enigmus: mkinitrd |
| 01:11.07 | helix | I do have a lap |
| 01:11.11 | helix | I have nothing to put on it |
| 01:11.24 | nvz | put on it? |
| 01:11.25 | helix | except max, I guess |
| 01:11.31 | helix | nvz: yes. |
| 01:11.38 | asuffield | now that just sounds perverted |
| 01:12.30 | helix | you think everything is perverted |
| 01:12.37 | sussudio | you don't want damien near your crotch |
| 01:12.42 | sussudio | not with his fiery breath |
| 01:12.47 | helix | damien is cute |
| 01:12.49 | helix | and innocent |
| 01:12.52 | ClydeFro1 | I've got trouble with libapache-mod-ssl: it depends on an old version of apache |
| 01:13.00 | helix | caphuso: heh |
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| 01:13.12 | doodle | whom should I contact if I translated the debian install guide to my native lang? been googling, but no avail, :/ |
| 01:13.22 | ClydeFro1 | (unstable, checked bugzilla) |
| 01:13.30 | helix | doodle: I imagine debian-doc@lists.debian.org ... |
| 01:13.39 | doodle | thx helix :) |
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| 01:13.49 | nvz | doodle: what language did you translate it to? |
| 01:14.01 | enigmus | caphuso: ok, thank you |
| 01:14.03 | helix | translating is difficult |
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| 01:14.09 | rich_ | doodle go to www.debian.org and find the mailing lists. I have no idea which one, but if you ask on the wrong one Im sure they will tell you |
| 01:14.10 | helix | maybe not for technical guides though |
| 01:14.13 | doodle | nvz, some arabic and turkish |
| 01:14.25 | doodle | ok rich_ |
| 01:14.35 | helix | doodle: ignore rich_, take my advice :) |
| 01:14.42 | doodle | ok ^_^ |
| 01:14.48 | helix | oh god, not that face |
| 01:14.54 | doodle | hheh |
| 01:14.55 | helix | ;_; |
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| 01:15.16 | nvz | heh, reminds me of those japanese anime cartoons |
| 01:15.25 | helix | yes, exactly |
| 01:15.32 | sussudio | (><) |
| 01:15.51 | zinx | X_X |
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| 01:16.04 | joki | T_T |
| 01:16.05 | sussudio | !fix abrotman__ |
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| 01:17.07 | helix | ugh, I hate error code 256 |
| 01:17.09 | nvz | sussudio: maybe he's just testing them, and wants to annoy us in the process |
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| 01:17.16 | helix | abrotman: wtf |
| 01:17.28 | ClydeFro1 | what can i do about libapache-mod-ssl depending on apache-common (< 1.3.32) but 1.3.33-1 is to be installed? |
| 01:17.56 | abrotman | i just need to find a stupid dns server that works |
| 01:18.01 | abrotman | comcasts .. don't |
| 01:18.02 | rich_ | I think he is hopeing they will give him a different domain name server. |
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| 01:18.13 | sussudio | abrotman: how the fuck is you reconnecting going to change that? |
| 01:18.25 | abrotman | no .. i'm changing them on the router .. stupid router reboots when i change dns servers |
| 01:18.35 | zinx | abrotman: 4.2.2.1, 4.2.2.2 |
| 01:19.01 | abrotman | sussudio: hardware router |
| 01:19.15 | ClydeFro1 | 17:16 < helix> ugh, I hate error code 256 |
| 01:19.15 | ClydeFro1 | 17:16 < nvz> sussudio: maybe he's just testing them, and wants to annoy us in the process |
| 01:19.23 | zinx | your router doesn't hijack DNS requests unless it really sucks |
| 01:19.25 | ClydeFro1 | whoops |
| 01:19.26 | sussudio | ClydeFro1: wtf? |
| 01:19.26 | helix | ClydeFro1: thanks. |
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| 01:19.36 | nvz | ClydeFro1: you need paste protection ;) |
| 01:19.40 | ClydeFro1 | i know |
| 01:19.42 | Vinland | with apt how do I see what packages I have installed ? |
| 01:19.43 | abrotman | zinx: i have it set to give the router IP as dns .. it then queries |
| 01:19.44 | ClydeFro1 | stupid middle button |
| 01:19.45 | fatrat | how do i install apache 2.0 on debian 3.0r1 |
| 01:19.46 | helix | Vinland: dpkg -l |
| 01:19.48 | zinx | you can use any server you want -- your router doesn't really have that much of a say in it, unless it explicitly hijacks the requests |
| 01:19.50 | abrotman | fatrat: backports |
| 01:19.56 | fatrat | ? |
| 01:19.57 | zinx | abrotman: so edit resolv.conf |
| 01:20.05 | zinx | abrotman: or explicitly specify the server |
| 01:20.17 | doodle | fatrat , / msg dpkg backports |
| 01:20.20 | nvz | ClydeFro1: irssi! comes with built in paste protection.. but its set to like 4 lines by default I think.. you have to lower it.. mine makes me confirm if the paste contains even a single carrage return |
| 01:20.22 | zinx | dig @4.2.2.1 google.com, for example |
| 01:20.22 | abrotman | zinx: yes .. on my machine .. |
| 01:20.27 | abrotman | zinx: the router is hardware |
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| 01:20.40 | zinx | abrotman: you can at least find a DNS server that works without constant rebooting of your router |
| 01:20.41 | abrotman | zinx: i thought the two i had found were working .. but i was wrong |
| 01:20.43 | nvz | ClydeFro1: well irssi >= 0.8.9, which I think counts out woody |
| 01:20.48 | zinx | abrotman: i don't see why your router would need working DNS anyway :/ |
| 01:20.55 | abrotman | zinx: i tried that ... they of course worked when i tried them .. |
| 01:21.04 | zinx | abrotman: then your router is broken |
| 01:21.05 | abrotman | but then when i needed them .. they were failing :) |
| 01:21.13 | joki | how come firefox 1 package hasnt been made yet *grumble |
| 01:21.19 | abrotman | mozilla-firefox |
| 01:21.32 | joki | its 0.8 tho |
| 01:21.40 | abrotman | !info mozilla-firefox sarge |
| 01:21.44 | dpkg | mozilla-firefox: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 0.9.3-5 (sarge), Packaged size: 9607 kB, Installed size: 28024 kB |
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| 01:21.50 | abrotman | dunno how you got that |
| 01:21.53 | doodle | joki, in sid :) |
| 01:21.56 | ClydeFro1 | nvz: should i set paste_verify_line_count to 0 or 1? |
| 01:21.58 | CPUnerd | what's the apt-get install package for mysql ?? I can't find it :) |
| 01:22.00 | CPUnerd | thanks |
| 01:22.05 | abrotman | CPUnerd: mysql-server |
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