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| 00:00.15 | CAiRO | ribnitz: i haven't edited the init script, i've just set my server in /etc/default/ntpdate, and it works fine if i run the init script from command line or wrapped with a shell, as it seems |
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| 00:00.57 | ribnitz | CAiRO: dynamic dns being started afterwards?-dhcp? |
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| 00:02.20 | takatumi | ~test |
| 00:02.21 | apt | Passed |
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| 00:02.57 | dondelelcaro | CAiRO: does the init script actually run? |
| 00:03.09 | CAiRO | dondelelcaro: yes, it runs fine |
| 00:03.29 | CAiRO | from command line or if i do sh -c "/etc/init.d/ntpdate start" |
| 00:03.37 | CAiRO | i just can't run the script directly from cron |
| 00:03.47 | dondelelcaro | CAiRO: no, I mean in the cron job. |
| 00:03.50 | CAiRO | well, i can run it, but it prints an error then |
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| 00:03.51 | redstar | peterS: when I try to install lilo on /dev/md0, it complains that the partition is not marked as active |
| 00:03.59 | dondelelcaro | CAiRO: what is the error? |
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| 00:04.14 | CAiRO | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:04.19 | peterS | redstar: that really shouldn't matter. you're using version 22.6 or thereabouts? |
| 00:04.37 | redstar | peterS: I am using kernel 2.6.something |
| 00:04.56 | dondelelcaro | CAiRO: then for some reason it is unable to source /etc/default/ntpdate; or you're not running it as root. |
| 00:05.05 | redstar | peterS: lilo version 22.6 |
| 00:05.10 | dondelelcaro | CAiRO: but either way, you don't want to run ntpdate repeatedly anyway. |
| 00:05.18 | dondelelcaro | CAiRO: use ntp-simple instead |
| 00:05.42 | peterS | redstar: did you include the "raid-extra-boot=mbr" option, as I said before? |
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| 00:05.49 | linoleum | rueh |
| 00:05.56 | redstar | peterS: yes, I did |
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| 00:06.08 | peterS | redstar: then the "active partition" should make absolutely no difference. |
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| 00:06.25 | mike | hey, how do i find out where the root path to perl is? |
| 00:06.32 | dondelelcaro | mike: it's /usr/bin/perl |
| 00:06.32 | CAiRO | it's strange though |
| 00:06.36 | redstar | peterS: ok, since it then installs in MBR? |
| 00:06.42 | peterS | redstar: right |
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| 00:06.54 | mike | dondelelcaro: thanks |
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| 00:08.07 | Sanne | mike: generally, "whereis <programname>" gets you the info. |
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| 00:09.05 | mike | Sanne: thanks mate |
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| 00:09.14 | the_ultimate_sam | how do i get to the internet on sarge? |
| 00:10.19 | Sanne | mike: np :) |
| 00:11.08 | maestro] | the_ultimate_sam: can you bring up X11 now? |
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| 00:12.20 | turbocow | hello |
| 00:12.44 | the_ultimate_sam | x11? |
| 00:12.57 | maestro] | the_ultimate_sam: startx |
| 00:13.04 | the_ultimate_sam | i cant find very many functionsi n this |
| 00:13.14 | the_ultimate_sam | i cant even find a file browser yet |
| 00:13.22 | the_ultimate_sam | im in the gui |
| 00:13.34 | maestro] | the_ultimate_sam: Ehrm, but it comes up? |
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| 00:14.12 | nof | ughh can someone help me |
| 00:14.17 | the_ultimate_sam | ya im in xfree now |
| 00:14.17 | nof | my usb stuff is broken |
| 00:14.24 | maestro] | the_ultimate_sam: Ok, great! |
| 00:14.34 | maestro] | the_ultimate_sam: you can install kde or gnome or something else now |
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| 00:14.48 | maestro] | the_ultimate_sam: these are environmens with filebrowser ect. |
| 00:15.07 | abeco | hello I have an usb external cd recorder. what must I do to mount it? |
| 00:15.22 | maestro] | the_ultimate_sam: best thing you could do is install an internet browser like mozilla-firefox and look at the screenshots and take the one you prefer |
| 00:15.24 | abeco | the typical mount /dev/sda1 soesn't work |
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| 00:15.41 | abeco | knoppix detects it at boot but debian... |
| 00:15.48 | the_ultimate_sam | i dont know how to get it |
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| 00:15.54 | the_ultimate_sam | apt-get mozzilla? |
| 00:16.12 | BugBear89 | apt-get install mozilla-firefox |
| 00:16.16 | BugBear89 | as root |
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| 00:17.07 | the_ultimate_sam | i have alot of windows i dontk now how to close too |
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| 00:17.48 | nof | does anyone know tons of stuff about usb |
| 00:17.52 | nof | because i need some helpz |
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| 00:18.38 | maestro] | the_ultimate_sam: if they are terminals type exit |
| 00:18.59 | abeco | excuse me: what is the device (/dev) of an external usb recorder? |
| 00:19.08 | abeco | is not sda1... or scd0... |
| 00:19.16 | takatumi | the_ultimate_sam: debian-reference is a good start, apt-get install debian-reference |
| 00:20.23 | abeco | xcdroast doesn't detect the usb recorder... |
| 00:20.55 | nof | use k3b |
| 00:20.59 | nof | it's cooler then xcdroast |
| 00:21.10 | cunumen | I don't quite remember what I just did, except try to uninstall something in aptitude, now whenever I interact with dpkg I get "dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 21591 package `ktron': `Depends' field, reference to `libkdegames1': version contains ` |
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| 00:21.46 | soth` | spelling: ducky or duckie? |
| 00:22.02 | cunumen | missed the last ', anyways, does anyone know what i could do, delete the stuff in /var maybe? |
| 00:22.12 | walnuck | anyone seen quicktime with mozplugger? the video only plays once with firefox and I have to restart firefox to resee the video |
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| 00:22.21 | abeco | nof... i am only trying to configure my external cd recorder... the program is the easy thing... |
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| 00:25.57 | maestro] | Phated: Have you seen that? |
| 00:26.24 | takatumi | cunumen: haven't seen that, maybe try updating with "u" |
| 00:26.50 | takatumi | the_ultimate_sam: now get a coffee and read :) |
| 00:26.54 | maestro] | the_ultimate_sam: So you installed mozilla-firefox? |
| 00:27.03 | maestro] | the_ultimate_sam: great |
| 00:27.13 | the_ultimate_sam | i put in mozila |
| 00:27.34 | the_ultimate_sam | ill get mozilla firefox when i get done with mozilla |
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| 00:27.52 | maestro] | the_ultimate_sam: Ok, do as you like |
| 00:27.58 | the_ultimate_sam | lol |
| 00:28.44 | Phated | maestro]: Seen what? |
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| 00:29.18 | maestro] | the_ultimate_sam: When it's there, run it. gnome scrots are there: http://www.lynucs.org/?gnome and kde here: http://www.kde.org/screenshots/kde320shots.php |
| 00:29.25 | maestro] | Phated: the_ultimate_sam got X11 |
| 00:29.33 | Phated | maestro]: Well FINALLY! |
| 00:29.50 | takatumi | ultimately? |
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| 00:30.16 | maestro] | Phated: Well, it's not done, we have to upgrade the kernel, install that nvidia module, install some environment and all, but X is running :) |
| 00:30.40 | Phated | maestro]: Meh, good enough. :) |
| 00:30.48 | maestro] | Phated: :)) |
| 00:30.54 | Phated | :) |
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| 00:31.57 | Loof | I'm trying to figure out how to get my scanner working well... I think I've got a SCSI termination issue. However, I can't seem to figure out any way to tell if my SCSI card (Diamond Fireport 40) is terminated! |
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| 00:32.10 | Loof | I've got a passive termination block at the scanner |
| 00:32.16 | Loof | and my internal tape drive is terminated |
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| 00:32.25 | Loof | (and providing termination power, I think) |
| 00:32.36 | _joey | How do I mount smbfs on remote host? mount -t smbfs //ip_address/common_share /mnt ? |
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| 00:32.49 | Loof | Yet when I boot... the system keeps trying to reset the scanner...and reset the scsi bus... over and over |
| 00:32.58 | Loof | it gives a 'phase change' error |
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| 00:33.10 | isga | Hi |
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| 00:33.37 | turbocow | hasta |
| 00:33.39 | maestro] | _joey: smbmount //winhome.ethz.ch/homes /ethz/ -o username=mweyland,password=4Fast5 is my line |
| 00:33.43 | pwned2 | I need a program like wget but works for http just like wget works for ftp |
| 00:33.56 | dondelelcaro | pwned2: uh... wget works for both. |
| 00:34.00 | rich_ | pwned2 try wget |
| 00:34.05 | _joey | maestro] where will ip adress go ? |
| 00:34.08 | hyur | i'm trying to install the latest debian 3.0r3 from cdrom, but during "install the base system" i get a warning saying "file:/instmnt/pool/main/b/bash/bash_2.05a-11_i386.deb was corrupt". i've tried both of the binary-1 iso's at http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/images/3.0_r3/i386/ but i get the same thing. |
| 00:34.08 | maestro] | pwned2: oehrm, wget _can_ handle http :) |
| 00:34.08 | pwned2 | dondelelcaro, it does, but not with wildcards |
| 00:34.16 | pwned2 | can handle is a little less than what I want |
| 00:34.20 | maestro] | _joey: between the // and the / |
| 00:34.23 | Loof | I've got 2 other 'minor' issues I'm trying to sort out... one is HylaFAX is 'seeing' both ttyS2 and 'modem' (which is a link to ttyS2) as active/valid devices... yet I only have a 'config.ttyS2'! |
| 00:34.23 | _joey | and how do I check passwords/usernames ? |
| 00:34.30 | dondelelcaro | pwned2: that's because there's no such thing as wildcards for HTTP. |
| 00:34.33 | shwag | where is the 'scanner' module in menuconfig for 2.6 ? |
| 00:34.36 | Loof | So I dunno where it is getting the idea it start start faxgetty on 'modem' |
| 00:34.36 | isga | pwned2: w3m? |
| 00:34.39 | _joey | will root/pass on samba server be sufficient ? |
| 00:34.42 | pwned2 | dondelelcaro, not in the protocol |
| 00:34.43 | maestro] | _joey: omit them if it is an anonymous account |
| 00:34.51 | _joey | it's not |
| 00:35.04 | _joey | I think it's been configured for MS Windows statios which belong to domain |
| 00:35.09 | dondelelcaro | pwned2: exactly. What are you trying to do? |
| 00:35.10 | _joey | stations* |
| 00:35.18 | Loof | shwag: Scanner module? Scanner is supported by user-mode tools... |
| 00:35.26 | maestro] | _joey: Ehm, it's your domain user's password then |
| 00:35.44 | _joey | maestro] how do I specify the domain in linux? |
| 00:35.50 | _joey | for mounting samba |
| 00:36.04 | maestro] | _joey: It's not needed for a simple smb mount |
| 00:36.08 | pwned2 | dondelelcaro, http://blah.com/0?-date-?0/?.gif // where ? is any number, for example |
| 00:36.11 | Loof | The other is I've got some VERY strange error messages that fly by... looks like something really confused, maybe in hotplug... but they're past the dmesg log and not in /var/log/messages :/ |
| 00:36.16 | pwned2 | counting number |
| 00:36.18 | _joey | maestro] it's failing to authenticate |
| 00:36.22 | _joey | so it is needed |
| 00:36.26 | pwned2 | I would like to execute a download for each iteration of this syntax |
| 00:36.28 | shwag | Loof, why does sane-usb reference a generic scanner module then ? http://chuckie.bmdistros.co.uk/php/phpMan/phpMan.php/man/sane-usb/5 |
| 00:36.28 | takatumi | hyur: /msg dpkg d-i |
| 00:36.36 | shwag | GENERIC KERNEL SCANNER DRIVER |
| 00:36.36 | _joey | you have to be part of a group to get anonymous account |
| 00:36.40 | _joey | or domain |
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| 00:36.45 | Loof | shwag: An HID driver... |
| 00:36.47 | Loof | hmm |
| 00:36.54 | pwned2 | I can write a program to do this, I can write a script, but I thought it would be more effective to use a program which is built for this |
| 00:36.58 | maestro] | _joey: I can mount my homedir which is shared by a PDC perfectly without any use of the domain name |
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| 00:37.16 | dondelelcaro | pwned2: so go http://blah.com/0{0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9}-date-{0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,9}/{0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9}.gif |
| 00:37.17 | _joey | well, I can't and I just checked the smb.conf |
| 00:37.21 | dondelelcaro | pwned2: or use auto-pron. |
| 00:37.27 | _joey | you should be in the group, oh man |
| 00:37.27 | dondelelcaro | pwned2: s/auto-pron/pron-get/ |
| 00:37.33 | pwned2 | O_o |
| 00:37.37 | Weeble | O_o |
| 00:37.45 | isga | What did in neeed when i install sarge netinstallimage via dhcp with an isa 3com 509 card ? |
| 00:37.45 | _joey | I hate the fucking piece of shit and anything has to be integrated with MS Windows |
| 00:38.16 | dondelelcaro | pwned2: but either way, HTTP is not like FTP. There's no such thing as a directory listing to do wildcard matching against. |
| 00:38.39 | pwned2 | dondelelcaro, nah matching isn't it, I wanted something like brute force |
| 00:38.43 | maestro] | the_ultimate_sam: Ehrm, are you still installing mozilla? |
| 00:38.48 | [TCC]Liberty | ok whats the makefile and how do i edit it? im trying to follow the ati driver instructions at http://www.rage3d.com/content/articles/atilinuxhowto/Linux_ATI.html#SECTION000110000000000000000 |
| 00:38.51 | pwned2 | but your { } syntax is very intriguing I'll try thank you |
| 00:38.56 | dondelelcaro | pwned2: then man bash, and understand the command that I gave you. |
| 00:39.14 | dondelelcaro | pwned2: or read about the -l -A, -r and --follow-tags options of wget. |
| 00:39.18 | jcole | how would i go about grabbing a debian source file(s) for a package without using apt-get source? |
| 00:39.32 | Phated | packages.debian.org might help there. |
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| 00:39.39 | dondelelcaro | jcole: use wget and get the .orig.tar.gz, the .dsc, the .diff.gz; and use dpkg-source foo.dsc |
| 00:39.47 | dondelelcaro | s/foo/-x foo/ |
| 00:40.03 | isga | does sarge netinstall suport 3com509 isa cards? |
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| 00:40.10 | jcole | thanks dondelelcaro :) |
| 00:40.11 | s1x | lo there |
| 00:40.12 | dondelelcaro | isga: yes. |
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| 00:40.28 | maestro] | jcole: or check packages.debian.org |
| 00:40.32 | s1x | what is the meta package for gcc, autoconf and all of those friends? |
| 00:40.38 | dondelelcaro | s1x: build-essential |
| 00:40.46 | s1x | dondelelcaro: thx :) |
| 00:40.59 | isga | dondelelcaro: what did i need for dhcp? |
| 00:41.15 | dondelelcaro | isga: it's already on the netinst images. |
| 00:41.25 | isga | dondelelcaro: wich modules? |
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| 00:41.33 | dondelelcaro | isga: it'll load them automatically. |
| 00:41.36 | _joey | maestro] are you good at samba ? |
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| 00:42.16 | maestro] | _joey: Ehrm, I'm maintainig a network with samba PDC BDC and windows clients :-/ |
| 00:43.26 | _joey | in smb.conf [common] ... below comment COmmon share path /www/common and when I run mount -t smbfs -o user=user,password=pass,domain=DOMAIN //ip/common_share /mnt (putting correct values for user/pass) it gives invalid share |
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| 00:43.36 | _joey | I found option for the domain |
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| 00:44.04 | _joey | what piece of junk, pisses me off never had any problems with nfs |
| 00:44.32 | maestro] | =8-) |
| 00:44.35 | walnuck | anyone know where i can download doom? |
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| 00:44.58 | the_ultimate_sam | what was the site for the gnome/whatever |
| 00:45.11 | maestro] | the_ultimate_sam: for the screensots? |
| 00:45.13 | fgc2k4 | is there an easy "how-to" on doing VPN? |
| 00:45.25 | the_ultimate_sam | ya the site u gave me a bit ago |
| 00:45.38 | maestro] | the_ultimate_sam: http://www.lynucs.org/?gnome and http://www.kde.org/screenshots/kde320shots.php |
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| 00:46.46 | Alleria | is there a package to just stress the cpu (e.g. for stability testing?) |
| 00:46.55 | eventide | exim is taking its time (4min) to deliver messages, from the time a locally sent message is received to the time it is delivered locally (tail -f mainlog). I'm not sure how to diagnose this problem...? |
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| 00:47.14 | PerfDave | Alleria: apt-cache search cpu stress test |
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| 00:48.01 | Alleria | PerfDave: thanks. |
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| 00:49.35 | maestro] | the_ultimate_sam: ? |
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| 00:49.44 | the_ultimate_sam | mkay how do i get kde? apt-get install kde? |
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| 00:49.55 | dondelelcaro | rrr... it's no warnings 'uninitialized'; |
| 00:49.59 | siimo | hi when i install php4 or apache server is it automatically put in startup next time i boot up? |
| 00:50.26 | dondelelcaro | siimo: yes. |
| 00:50.41 | dondelelcaro | siimo: well, apache is. php4 doesn't run on it's own. |
| 00:50.58 | siimo | dondelelcaro, how do i disable it? |
| 00:51.13 | maestro] | the_ultimate_sam: or apt-get install kde-core which installs less things |
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| 00:51.29 | dondelelcaro | siimo: you either remove apache, or use update-rc.d to change the S link to a K link. |
| 00:51.29 | the_ultimate_sam | do i want less things? |
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| 00:52.12 | Sanne | siimo: you might also wanto to try rcconf |
| 00:52.13 | maestro] | the_ultimate_sam: kde-amusements, kdeaddons, kdeadmin, kdeartwork, kdegraphics, kdemultimedia, kdenetwork, kdepim, kdeutils, quanta these are the things kde installs additionally |
| 00:52.32 | maestro] | the_ultimate_sam: you can check the description for every one with apt-cache show kde-amusements for example |
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| 00:52.59 | siimo | Sanne, thanks :) that interface looks much easier :) |
| 00:52.59 | zeeeee | hi all, does anybody know what '16-base-4' means? |
| 00:53.24 | Gumby | my sound has suddenly went all staticy, is there a way of re-initializing it? |
| 00:53.32 | maestro] | the_ultimate_sam: If you want them install kde, if you don't want them install kde-core. You even can install the additional things separately |
| 00:53.52 | Sanne | siimo: yes, doesn't it? I also was *very* glad to find it :) |
| 00:53.57 | maestro] | the_ultimate_sam: for example apt-get install kde-amusements. If you only want some of the extensions |
| 00:53.59 | lkz633123 | trying to compile asimple g++ code, I get weired undefined refernece errors, what to do? I remeber this is because of changes to 3.3, but I cannot remeber how to solve the issue |
| 00:54.34 | the_ultimate_sam | if i install core will it install all those things u just mentioned |
| 00:54.46 | siimo | Sanne, but does the star mean it will start at bootup? cause i unchecked one and it said Adding system startup for /etc/init.d/apache .. |
| 00:55.04 | maestro] | the_ultimate_sam: No, the kde-core is just the core, kde is kde-core plus the things I mentioned |
| 00:55.22 | the_ultimate_sam | so install kde installs all those things |
| 00:55.28 | maestro] | the_ultimate_sam: right |
| 00:55.30 | BugBear89 | when i try and unmount a drive it says device is busy, any way to stop that? |
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| 00:55.34 | the_ultimate_sam | ok |
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| 00:55.55 | maestro] | the_ultimate_sam: Ok, and in the meanwhile you can tweak some things |
| 00:56.01 | eventide | BugBear89: you can't have any process with its working dir on that device |
| 00:56.03 | Madeye | Question: if its gonna be first time to debian so what you recommend sarg or woody ? |
| 00:56.15 | BugBear89 | eventide: i don't think i do |
| 00:56.19 | maestro] | Madeye: sarge |
| 00:56.31 | Sanne | siimo: on my system the star means enable startup, no star means to not start at startup |
| 00:56.33 | Madeye | maestro] may i know why? |
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| 00:56.52 | maestro] | Madeye: Newer, more software, more user-friendly |
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| 00:57.23 | maestro] | Madeye: Better support for special hardware like nivdia graphics card, centrino network devices, ect. |
| 00:57.26 | siimo | ok |
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| 00:57.31 | Madeye | maestro] in debian site http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/ Woody is the newest |
| 00:57.41 | Madeye | what about Opteron 64? |
| 00:57.42 | BugBear89 | Madeye: thats stable |
| 00:57.49 | maestro] | Madeye: woody is stable, sarge is testing |
| 00:57.57 | BugBear89 | eventide: can i force unmount? |
| 00:58.12 | Madeye | hmm weird, and you recommend testing version ? not the stable? |
| 00:58.15 | eventide | BugBear89: I don't think so... you can remount read only though |
| 00:58.24 | maestro] | Madeye: But sarge has been testing for a long time, so it's rather stable now. And woody has been stable for a long time and containts old software now |
| 00:58.25 | eventide | BugBear89: which is often just as good |
| 00:58.31 | Madeye | sorry but still cant understand how Debian splits and organize their versions |
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| 00:58.43 | BugBear89 | nah thats why i wanted to unmount then remount so i could make it RW |
| 00:58.53 | MerlinCorey | !tell madeye about history |
| 00:58.53 | maestro] | Madeye: There is stable (woody), sarge (testig) and sid (unstable) |
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| 00:59.14 | eventide | BugBear89: then remount "mount -o remount,rw /whatever" |
| 00:59.22 | maestro] | Madeye: and from time to time, the testing version is frozen and becomes the new stable version |
| 00:59.39 | Madeye | hmm what about potato? |
| 00:59.41 | maestro] | the_ultimate_sam: Are you downloading now? |
| 00:59.42 | lkz633123 | trying to compile a simple g++ code with debian, I get weired undefined refernece errors, what to do? I remeber this is because of changes to 3.3, but I cannot remeber how to solve the issue |
| 00:59.50 | maestro] | Madeye: That was stable when woody was testing |
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| 01:00.20 | bob2 | lkz633123: install build-essential |
| 01:00.26 | pook | maestro: how's it going |
| 01:00.26 | Madeye | ah so its older than woody, and now sarge is testing and its newer |
| 01:00.29 | bob2 | lkz633123: and make sure you're using std::cout, etc |
| 01:00.31 | lkz633123 | how? |
| 01:00.35 | Madeye | better understanding now :) |
| 01:00.42 | bob2 | lkz633123: how do you normally install packages? |
| 01:00.47 | pook | maestro: its me "brian" |
| 01:00.47 | maestro] | pook: Ehrm, how do you mean? |
| 01:00.49 | lkz633123 | apt-get |
| 01:00.56 | maestro] | pook: Oh :) |
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| 01:01.08 | IcE-bOy | anybody has this problem burning cds with k3b? -> :-( Failed to change write speed: 2117->2700 |
| 01:01.10 | bob2 | lkz633123: then apt-get install build-essential |
| 01:01.13 | Madeye | maestro] tell me about sarge, does it have easy installer? Once i tried to install potato it was like a nightmare for me |
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| 01:01.19 | pook | maestro: someone in this channel already has the name brian :-( |
| 01:01.35 | lkz633123 | exit |
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| 01:02.02 | maestro] | Madeye: Well, I consider the installer as easy. There are many improvements since potato |
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| 01:02.13 | maestro] | Madeye: But I don't know if it's still a nightmare |
| 01:02.17 | ZenithDK | hi, how do I get TV-out working with ATI? do I need a package or is it all in the XF86Config file? |
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| 01:02.36 | lkz633123 | I still get the undefined reference errors when linking...... I guess I won't get this with an older comipiler like 2.9....what to do?? |
| 01:02.39 | maestro] | pook: Oh I see |
| 01:02.59 | Madeye | maestro] hmm last question (hope so) is the installer wizard like suse, mandrake, rh, fc etc.. ? or still like potato ? |
| 01:03.01 | bob2 | lkz633123: could you be more useless please? |
| 01:03.15 | pook | maestro: I came to get some help...but i wont bother you this time |
| 01:03.15 | bob2 | lkz633123: or maybe just paste the error to #flood instead of whinging? |
| 01:03.18 | lkz633123 | bob2, what do you mean? |
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| 01:03.34 | lkz633123 | just trying to get help to comipile |
| 01:03.46 | maestro] | Madeye: The installer is about the same style... it is a wizard, but not running under X11 |
| 01:03.54 | bob2 | lkz633123: paste the error to #flood |
| 01:03.59 | maestro] | pook: np, just ask :) |
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| 01:04.10 | lkz633123 | why are you being rood... don't answer if you do not want to |
| 01:04.18 | Madeye | so there is no screen-shots available :( |
| 01:04.18 | bob2 | lkz633123: because you're being annoying |
| 01:04.28 | bob2 | lkz633123: how can anyone possibly help if you don't show us the error? |
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| 01:05.08 | lkz633123 | undefined reference to 'vtabvle |
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| 01:05.21 | maestro] | Madeye: http://www.linuxtimes.net/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=211&page=1 |
| 01:05.23 | bob2 | lkz633123: no |
| 01:05.29 | bob2 | lkz633123: paste the entire error to #flood |
| 01:05.34 | bob2 | lkz633123: including the g++ line you're running |
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| 01:06.17 | inc | hi room |
| 01:06.23 | Madeye | thanks maestro] |
| 01:07.12 | stew | !room |
| 01:07.13 | dpkg | CHANNEL! |
| 01:07.22 | maestro] | maestro]: THose are better: http://people.debian.org/~madduck/d-i/screenshots/ |
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| 01:08.14 | Madeye | maestro] any recommended site to purchase debian sarge cd's ? |
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| 01:09.09 | maestro] | Madeye: The are availabe for free |
| 01:09.10 | PerfDave | http://www.thelinuxemporium.co.uk/ will probably have them after release |
| 01:09.18 | maestro] | Madeye: Download the ISO files |
| 01:09.35 | Madeye | maestro] I dont have good connection, so I have to purchase the cd's |
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| 01:10.45 | maestro] | Madeye: http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/ |
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| 01:11.10 | maestro] | Madeye: But I don't know whether sarge CDs are available yet |
| 01:11.58 | Madeye | maestro] I have checked verndors, no sarge, hmm ok what I have to download? I will check if my friend can download it for me |
| 01:12.03 | Madeye | any direct link ? |
| 01:12.16 | factotum | the sarge net install works pretty well. Took about an hour to download a default desktop system its on broadband though |
| 01:12.37 | danthekiwi | took about 15 minutes for me :P |
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| 01:12.38 | Trev__ | sarge net install works really well IMHO |
| 01:12.40 | factotum | heh |
| 01:12.55 | PerfDave | Madeye: /msg dpkg d-i |
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| 01:13.09 | Madeye | danthekiwi weh! then you have AT&T at home :D |
| 01:13.13 | PerfDave | Madeye: If you have a slow connection and are getting a friend to download stuff for you, get as many full CD images as possible. |
| 01:13.21 | danthekiwi | nah, optus cable ;P |
| 01:13.23 | pook | I am really struggling in trying to understand power management on my laptop |
| 01:13.34 | pook | I cannot figure out how to get it to work |
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| 01:13.46 | PerfDave | Madeye: Certainly you want the first CD image; I installed Sarge today and needed the first three CDs for everything I wanted (kde, kdm, openoffice, firefox, xmms, irssi, screen basically) |
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| 01:14.40 | maestro] | Madeye: And make sure not to download the netinstall image... |
| 01:14.51 | Madeye | hmm so I have to download 3 cd's to get desktop managers and other needed packages? |
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| 01:15.00 | cocozz | Hi , my dhcpcd config deconfigures itseld all the time !! , im doing echo "nameserver ip_of_my_dns_server" > /etc/resolv.conf 8SS thats stupid , any idea plz ? |
| 01:15.09 | Madeye | maestro] thats why i'm asking for a direct link |
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| 01:15.21 | PerfDave | Madeye: Get as many as possible. They're organised so the most popular packages are on the earlier CDs. |
| 01:15.24 | dondelelcaro | cocozz: use resolvconf, and switch to dhcp3-client |
| 01:15.29 | Gumby | hrm, can anyone tell me how I'd test to see whether I am using oss or alsa? |
| 01:15.37 | Madeye | hmm sarge have 13 CDs? what the hell is that |
| 01:15.41 | Madeye | http://debian.abexia.com/sarge.html |
| 01:16.01 | PerfDave | http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/ |
| 01:16.03 | pwned | my sarge had no cds, I had to build it from a woody =| |
| 01:16.12 | cocozz | dondelelcaro: how plz , im using debian since this afternoon |
| 01:16.12 | xoz | cocozz: configure /etc/dhclient.conf |
| 01:16.14 | PerfDave | Madeye: There are *lots* of packages in Debian :) |
| 01:16.20 | maestro] | Madeye: And the vendors on that page do have sarge CDs |
| 01:16.22 | danthekiwi | guys ever since i recompile my kernel 2.6 doesnt seem to think i have a interface eth0 |
| 01:16.25 | Infusium | !d-i |
| 01:16.25 | dpkg | hmm... d-i is the new installer for sarge (debian 3.1), at http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ or see #debian-boot, but don't pester the d-i devs with unrelated questions |
| 01:16.40 | danthekiwi | i looked through all the network stuff but couldnt find anything i may have missed in config |
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| 01:16.41 | The_Vulture | danthekiwi: so you forgot to compile in the module for your NIC.. |
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| 01:16.56 | cocozz | xoz: ok |
| 01:16.57 | Madeye | PerfDave yeah but not 13 CD's! LOL lemme calculate 13CD * 700MB = 9100MB damn |
| 01:17.00 | maestro] | danthekiwi: What about the support for your NIC? |
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| 01:17.08 | RobLinux | Whats the best Debian Distro for newbies on i686 type (Celeron 634mhz 256sdram 20gb) ? |
| 01:17.10 | danthekiwi | i looked i couldnt see anything |
| 01:17.16 | PerfDave | Madeye: There are 13 CDs worth of packages in Debian :) |
| 01:17.16 | danthekiwi | its a realtek card |
| 01:17.20 | PerfDave | Madeye: You probably don't need all of them ;) |
| 01:17.20 | Madeye | yeah maestro] I just found a vendor have sarge |
| 01:17.25 | PerfDave | RobLinux: Debian is the best Debian distro :) |
| 01:17.32 | Gumby | danthekiwi: have you tried loading the module for the card? |
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| 01:17.45 | RobLinux | For newbies? Debian itself? |
| 01:17.58 | Gumby | danthekiwi: did you include the module in the kernel or did you set it as a loadable module? |
| 01:18.05 | zakame | PerfDave: i second that ;P |
| 01:18.06 | Madeye | hmm ok PerfDave maestro], do you recommend to purchase sarge now (TESTING) or wait till its release as stable? btw when it will be release stable? any roadmap ? |
| 01:18.11 | [TCC]Liberty | ok whats the makefile and how do i edit it? im trying to follow the ati driver instructions at http://www.rage3d.com/content/articles/atilinuxhowto/Linux_ATI.html#SECTION000110000000000000000 |
| 01:18.26 | maestro] | danthekiwi: grep 8139TOO /usr/src/linux/.config |
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| 01:18.43 | danthekiwi | is that the name of realtek module? |
| 01:18.47 | danthekiwi | lol @ that |
| 01:18.48 | pook | maestro: can you remind me what that command was that you had me use to configure my wireless network..ie essid, etc. |
| 01:18.49 | maestro] | Madeye: You could wait, but it may take some Time |
| 01:18.49 | Trev__ | where is a good howto on getting a sound system running on debian.. creative labes card |
| 01:18.51 | danthekiwi | so easy to guess! |
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| 01:18.56 | danthekiwi | ;] |
| 01:18.56 | AciD | oi |
| 01:19.00 | Gumby | maestro]: 8139too |
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| 01:19.06 | Madeye | maestro] any roadmap? |
| 01:19.09 | PerfDave | Madeye: Sarge will be released as stable When it's Ready. Probably before Christmas, but you never know. |
| 01:19.25 | AciD | how can you downgrade packages ? i tried 'apt-get install -t "0.8.1.38-1" gnocatan-client gnocatan-ai gnocatan-serv' but it doesn't seems to be that syntax |
| 01:19.35 | Madeye | if its before xmas, I can wait |
| 01:19.36 | PerfDave | Aww, what's the page with the current Sarge release-critical bug count? |
| 01:19.42 | PerfDave | AciD: Not easily. |
| 01:19.58 | Gumby | can anyone tell me how I'd check whether alsa or oss is being used? |
| 01:20.06 | maestro] | PerfDave: http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ |
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| 01:20.22 | maestro] | Gumby: lsmod|grep snd |
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| 01:20.22 | PerfDave | maestro]: Cheers |
| 01:20.25 | danthekiwi | k found it thanks lol |
| 01:20.31 | danthekiwi | recompiling, 5th time :) |
| 01:20.34 | danthekiwi | nice big mess. |
| 01:20.37 | Gumby | maestro]: I seem to have both snd_ and regular modules though |
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| 01:20.51 | Gumby | maestro]: and I also have no alsa in /etc/init.d |
| 01:21.08 | danthekiwi | r-c? |
| 01:21.08 | zakame | AciD: that ought t obe apt-get -y install gnocatan/version |
| 01:21.34 | PerfDave | danthekiwi: release critical bugs, http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ |
| 01:21.37 | maestro] | Gumby: What's the name of the oss module? |
| 01:21.40 | pook | So is maestro] the defacto guru here...all of the time? |
| 01:21.45 | pook | hah |
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| 01:21.59 | danthekiwi | cool |
| 01:22.09 | maestro] | PerfDave: Hm, btw, what is the red and green graph for? Never got that :) |
| 01:22.14 | Gumby | maestro]: snd_pcm_oss |
| 01:22.21 | AciD | zakame, the -y option is to always answer yes isn't ? |
| 01:22.28 | maestro] | Gumby: That's the oss emulation for alsa |
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| 01:22.49 | xoz | alsa emulation for oss |
| 01:22.51 | pook | I'm trying to get my battery meter to work, but apm isn't running for some reason |
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| 01:23.05 | PerfDave | maestro]: red includes bugs in sid and in sarge packages which are being ignored for some reason (such as the package not being planned for inclusion in Sarge/stable). |
| 01:23.07 | maestro] | Gumby: run alsamixer, if it works you are running alsa |
| 01:23.09 | Gumby | maestro]: ok, how can I restart alsa then? or restart oss? right now I am just getting static for sound |
| 01:23.18 | maestro] | PerfDave: OhI see |
| 01:23.21 | Gumby | command not found |
| 01:23.26 | zakame | AciD: yep |
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| 01:23.54 | Gumby | maestro]: I'd really like to avoid rebooting |
| 01:24.09 | Gumby | Ive reloaded all the sound modules |
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| 01:24.13 | Gumby | still just static |
| 01:24.20 | maestro] | Gumby: What means 'static |
| 01:24.31 | maestro] | pook: Sorry, I missed your question if there was any :( |
| 01:24.33 | Gumby | maestro]: static noise...like on TV when you have no cable |
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| 01:24.57 | pook | maestro]: I am still trying to understand the whole apm thing |
| 01:25.04 | Gumby | maestro]: but sound only comes on when a sound is played |
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| 01:25.16 | maestro] | Gumby: Uh, sounds odd... maybe you want to play around with the mixer |
| 01:25.26 | pook | or even acpi |
| 01:25.30 | Madeye | Great offer http://www.easylinuxcds.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=353&products_id=1550 |
| 01:25.48 | maestro] | pook: did you load the modules I showed you? |
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| 01:26.00 | pook | yes...and they show that their loaded |
| 01:26.18 | maestro] | pook: ok, run acpi? |
| 01:26.26 | InsaneInside | Anyone here have any experience with the Wyse Link MC5 terminal? |
| 01:26.42 | pook | just type acpi=on ? |
| 01:26.47 | zirikili | hey... I just installed nvidia module and it is now running, but when I try to start X I get a "failed to load module 'nvidia' (modules does not exist, 0)" ... any help? |
| 01:26.50 | maestro] | pook: acpi<enter> |
| 01:26.56 | pook | ok |
| 01:27.00 | InsaneInside | zirikili: what kernel version you running? |
| 01:27.15 | moodsoft | hi all, how do I get debian to see my sound card? the pci info center sees: 82801AA AC'97 Audio |
| 01:27.18 | pook | says "no support for device type: battery" |
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| 01:27.28 | zirikili | InsaneInside: 2.4.27-1-386 |
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| 01:27.41 | maestro] | pook: ok, one sec |
| 01:27.49 | moodsoft | I believe Mandrake used an i_810 driver for it |
| 01:28.44 | InsaneInside | zirikili: Oh, alright. |
| 01:28.56 | green_earz | zirikili: http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.html |
| 01:29.04 | xoz | moodsoft: lspci.. shows what multimedia controller and bridge host? |
| 01:29.05 | InsaneInside | zirikili: so you've done a "modprobe nvidia"? |
| 01:29.18 | maestro] | moodsoft: looks like that intel thing |
| 01:29.22 | zirikili | green_earz: does it work on text mode? |
| 01:29.25 | pook | maestro]: i feel like i've already used up all of my tech support hours with you....haha |
| 01:29.39 | zirikili | InsaneInside: yes... it is loaded |
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| 01:30.02 | xoz | zirikili: did you google for that error? |
| 01:30.10 | maestro] | pook: :) |
| 01:30.13 | maestro] | pook: dmesg | grep ACPI.*Subsystem\ revision |
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| 01:30.24 | InsaneInside | zirikili: i shall stop attempting to help then, as I have no ideas left. :) |
| 01:30.30 | zirikili | xoz: not yet... trying to run any X here |
| 01:30.46 | zirikili | InsaneInside: thanks anyway :) |
| 01:30.52 | moodsoft | 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801AA AC'97 Audio (rev 02) |
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| 01:31.14 | xoz | zirikili: paste the error in google. not many here are using nvidia so google may give you more hints. |
| 01:31.14 | moodsoft | 0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82820 820 (Camino) Chipset Host Bridge (MCH) (rev 04) |
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| 01:32.01 | moodsoft | xoz, that's what it says |
| 01:32.02 | ifup | help! I apt-get'd several things last night and when I powered up today no mouse working in x. where should I start to trouble shoot it? itworks fine in knoppix.. |
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| 01:32.06 | zirikili | xoz: oh.... ok... thank u |
| 01:32.06 | xoz | moodsoft: try intel |
| 01:32.18 | kristoffer | im about to install nvidia driver, but i cant be running the x server, i tryed logging in as root and writing init 3 and then rebooted, but the xserver still starts, what can i do? |
| 01:32.29 | maestro] | pook: or cat /proc/acpi/info |
| 01:32.36 | moodsoft | xoz: how? |
| 01:32.44 | zirikili | ifup: edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and fix your mouse |
| 01:32.54 | InsaneInside | nVidia has great support for it's cards in Linux, but I'm still waiting for an updated driver that works under 2.6.9... |
| 01:33.01 | The_Vulture | kristoffer: stop the server.. obviously |
| 01:33.07 | The_Vulture | kristoffer: /etc/init.d/xdm stop |
| 01:33.11 | The_Vulture | (or whatever dm) |
| 01:33.14 | staniel | InsaneInside: there is a fix for that |
| 01:33.24 | pook | ACPI: Subsystem revision 20040326 |
| 01:33.26 | xoz | moodsoft: i810_audio |
| 01:33.32 | maestro] | pook: ok |
| 01:33.45 | InsaneInside | staniel: Oooooh! Me wants! Do tell. |
| 01:33.51 | staniel | InsaneInside: kk |
| 01:33.52 | cocozz | im doing an xf86config , but when selecting my video card chip (ati radeon) it doesnt appears 8S , is it possible ?? |
| 01:33.54 | moodsoft | xoz: yes thats what mandrake used, but how do I tell Debian? Mandrake found it on its own |
| 01:34.27 | ifup | my XFREE86config-4 points to where the mouse is suppose to be and if I run mdetect it shows /dev/psaux intellimouse |
| 01:34.28 | xoz | moodsoft: or i82092 or i82635 |
| 01:34.31 | staniel | InsaneInside: get NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6111-pkg1.run from the nvidia site (if you don't already |
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| 01:34.34 | moodsoft | do I use insmod? |
| 01:34.39 | kristoffer | thx the_vulture.. worked |
| 01:34.47 | xoz | moodsoft: edit /etc/modules |
| 01:34.48 | maestro] | pook: Do you have a /proc/acpi/battery/ ? |
| 01:35.03 | xoz | moodsoft: or you can use hotplug or discover |
| 01:35.03 | staniel | InsaneInside: # sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6111-pkg1.run --extract-only |
| 01:35.31 | zirikili | staniel: does it run on sarge? |
| 01:35.36 | ifup | shouldnt I be able to cat the /dev/psaux and move the mouse and get somthing? |
| 01:35.38 | staniel | InsaneInside: that should extract the NVIDIA stuff into NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6111-pkg1 |
| 01:35.39 | xoz | moodsoft: echo i810_audio >> /etc/modules |
| 01:35.42 | cocozz | im doing an xf86config , but when selecting my video card chip (ati radeon) it doesnt appears 8S , is it possible ?? |
| 01:35.47 | maestro] | staniel: The fix already is included in sarge's nvidia package |
| 01:36.03 | staniel | maestro]: yeah, but is it in sid? |
| 01:36.15 | moodsoft | xoz, what do I do after the echo? |
| 01:36.16 | maestro] | staniel: Yep |
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| 01:36.31 | pook | maestro]: let me check really quick |
| 01:37.09 | zirikili | staniel: what that --extract-only option is for? |
| 01:37.11 | pook | maestro]: no i only have /proc/acpi/ |
| 01:37.18 | xoz | moodsoft: during boot... /etc/init.d/modutils will read /etc/modules and automaticall load what's in there. or you can force it to restart by: /etc/init.d/modutils restart |
| 01:37.19 | pook | no battery |
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| 01:37.30 | maestro] | pook: but lsmod |grep battery shows the battery module? |
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| 01:37.36 | staniel | zirikili: this is to manually edit the nvidia stuff |
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| 01:37.56 | xoz | moodsoft: or /etc/init.d/modutils reload |
| 01:38.01 | pook | yes |
| 01:38.02 | budluva_ | is it possible to get a virtual console through ssh? |
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| 01:38.18 | budluva_ | like the ctrl-alt-f1-f6 |
| 01:38.25 | The_Vulture | budluva_: use screen.. |
| 01:38.26 | maestro] | pook: *hmm* |
| 01:38.26 | caphuso | budluva_: use screen |
| 01:38.32 | IcE-bOy | where can i find old debian packages ? |
| 01:38.34 | The_Vulture | caphuso: :) |
| 01:38.37 | budluva_ | eh? |
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| 01:38.46 | xoz | moodsoft: if you have other modules you want loaded during boot, edit /etc/modules by adding those modules. |
| 01:38.50 | The_Vulture | budluva_: apt-get install screen; man 1 screen |
| 01:38.55 | budluva_ | ok |
| 01:39.28 | pook | maestro]: its always my luck |
| 01:39.30 | xoz | moodsoft: or leave it to hotplug to detect what you have |
| 01:39.46 | moodsoft | xoz: cool, its working now :-) |
| 01:40.14 | ifup | what ways are there to detect your ps2 mouse? |
| 01:40.15 | the_ultimate_sam | ...what is palm |
| 01:40.32 | deadcat | ifup: dicover maybe? |
| 01:40.33 | maestro] | the_ultimate_sam: pda? |
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| 01:40.38 | xoz | ifup: what kernel version? |
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| 01:40.52 | budluva_ | err so whats the point of screen? |
| 01:40.52 | the_ultimate_sam | it says i need to choose the port for palm |
| 01:40.57 | deadcat | the_ultimate_sam: turn your hand over. |
| 01:41.02 | ifup | 2.6.7 |
| 01:41.02 | the_ultimate_sam | lol |
| 01:41.21 | maestro] | the_ultimate_sam: doesen't matter what you choose here |
| 01:41.25 | the_ultimate_sam | so thats just for a palm piolet |
| 01:41.29 | xoz | ifup: modprobe psmouse. |
| 01:41.33 | maestro] | the_ultimate_sam: right |
| 01:41.42 | ifup | ok I will try it |
| 01:41.44 | xoz | ifup: modprobe mousedev |
| 01:41.45 | albo | anyone know the name of the image used as background for debian's gnome |
| 01:41.51 | albo | maybe lsof... |
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| 01:42.16 | wasabi_ | albo, just open the background capplet |
| 01:42.22 | deadcat | albo: right click on the desktop and look for the name there. |
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| 01:42.38 | seba | hola |
| 01:42.41 | albo | i installed kanotix .. ;-0 |
| 01:42.47 | maestro] | pook: Ehrm, well me about model and manufacturer please :) |
| 01:42.51 | deadcat | albo: this is #debian |
| 01:42.52 | avoid | guys, how can I prevent hotplug not to load some unncessary modules, which actualyy make my booting process slower ? |
| 01:43.13 | deadcat | avoid: look at the blacklist file in /etc/hotplug.d/ |
| 01:43.13 | seba | ay algun chileno(a) |
| 01:43.19 | deadcat | !spanish |
| 01:43.19 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish speakers: please go to #debian-es, you will get a lot more help there. |
| 01:43.41 | seba | ay algun chileno(a) |
| 01:43.50 | seba | ay algun chileno(a) |
| 01:43.50 | deadcat | avoid: /etc/hostplug/blacklist |
| 01:43.51 | seba | ay algun chileno(a) |
| 01:43.52 | seba | ay algun chileno(a) |
| 01:43.55 | xoz | !ops |
| 01:43.55 | dpkg | Meet your friendly #debian operators: bdale, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk. Or: This is the Emergency Debian Hologram please state the nature of your #debian emergency. |
| 01:43.57 | seba | ay algun chileno(a) |
| 01:43.59 | ifup | woo hoo modprobe psmouse did it!! |
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| 01:44.00 | seba | vay algun chileno(a) |
| 01:44.02 | seba | ay algun chileno(a) |
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| 01:44.09 | *** kick/#debian [seba!lorez@lorez.staff.freenode] by Rez (Rez) |
| 01:44.13 | helix | gosh |
| 01:44.17 | conejoQuick | the ubuntu its a live cd? |
| 01:44.21 | ifup | so How can I fix this in the future? |
| 01:44.25 | deadcat | not likc i can understand that.. wrong place for advertisement. |
| 01:44.33 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@200.120.100.133] by Rez |
| 01:44.36 | xoz | ifup: add the name in /etc/modules file |
| 01:44.39 | deadcat | ifup: echo psmouse >> /etc/modules |
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| 01:44.42 | pook | maestro]: i've looked on their website, but.... my manufacturer is "gateway" and the laptop is model number m320x(pro) |
| 01:44.48 | xoz | ifup: echo psmouse >> /etc/modules |
| 01:44.51 | bob2 | conejoQuick: there is a live cd, but there is also a regular install one |
| 01:44.57 | Rez | helix: huh? |
| 01:45.08 | conejoQuick | okey bob2 thanks |
| 01:45.11 | helix | you're quick :) |
| 01:45.23 | Rez | heh |
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| 01:45.28 | ifup | many thanks!! |
| 01:45.34 | xoz | testerone |
| 01:45.37 | conejoQuick | yes helix |
| 01:45.39 | avoid | deadcat: one more thing. let's say for example, that I've just compiled a new kernel, and I've build in the support for my Realtek 8139 NIC. that means, that the modules, which is actually biuld in, will be loaded by default, at boot. does hotplug then have any kind of role in this, or not ? |
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| 01:45.44 | xoz | *testosterone* :) |
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| 01:45.47 | conejoQuick | who are you? |
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| 01:45.57 | avoid | build* |
| 01:46.05 | conejoQuick | i now you helix? |
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| 01:46.24 | deadcat | avoid: that i dont know, but if you build it as built-in, it loads. |
| 01:46.53 | avoid | then, why should hotplug run, if I build in all the necessary modules for my hardware ? |
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| 01:47.02 | pook | maestro]: I FIGURED IT OUT |
| 01:47.03 | cocozz | im doing an xf86config , but when selecting my video card chip (ati radeon) it doesnt appears 8S , is it possible ?? |
| 01:47.08 | nvz | !nvzsmite conejoQuick |
| 01:47.09 | maestro] | pook: really? |
| 01:47.16 | pook | haha YAY |
| 01:47.17 | pook | yes |
| 01:47.32 | pook | maestro]: here's what I did.. |
| 01:47.33 | nvz | conejoQuick: spel otfen? |
| 01:47.34 | xoz | !congratulate pook |
| 01:47.35 | dpkg | Hugs & Puppies pook, you did it! |
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| 01:47.37 | conejoQuick | jajajajaaj:D |
| 01:47.50 | pook | maestro]: I went into aptitude and kept searching for acpi |
| 01:47.51 | conejoQuick | coman kk |
| 01:48.10 | pook | maestro]: I came across acpid |
| 01:48.19 | pook | which, duh, is acpi dameon |
| 01:48.41 | maestro] | cocozz: which card is that (exactly)? |
| 01:48.45 | pook | for some reason I didn't have the dameon |
| 01:48.56 | maestro] | pook: Duh, I forgot about the daemon :( |
| 01:49.00 | pook | lol |
| 01:49.02 | suizid | Ok |
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| 01:49.19 | maestro] | pook: So it works now? |
| 01:49.35 | maestro] | pook: That wmbattery thing I mean |
| 01:49.40 | pook | yes it works |
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| 01:50.01 | turbocow | part |
| 01:50.02 | maestro] | pook: Ok.. gdesklets should work as well if you still want to change |
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| 01:50.13 | cocozz | maestro]: a radeon 9600 , i know there is a driver on ati website but in normally use Xorg and there I have a generic driver for ati radeons |
| 01:50.29 | xoz | pook: try using /etc/bash_completion in /etc/bash.rc so that you can get hints during apt-get install foo<tab> |
| 01:50.36 | pook | i have it running...i'm gonna check gdesklets |
| 01:50.58 | pook | WOOHOO, 84% |
| 01:51.02 | maestro] | pook: it's /wrc/bash.bashrc, not bash.rc |
| 01:51.09 | maestro] | ehrm, /etc/ of course |
| 01:51.23 | avoid | any idea about that ? |
| 01:51.31 | pook | maestro]: what is foo? |
| 01:51.44 | maestro] | pook: dummy text |
| 01:52.00 | pook | what did you want me to do with bash? |
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| 01:52.31 | xoz | avoid: your question is common sense. even if it will, it won't be able to help anymore |
| 01:52.57 | pook | maestro]: could you point me in the right direction so i could install my sound drivers? |
| 01:52.59 | avoid | ok |
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| 01:53.32 | Davidcc6 | que podria hacer que un cd no leyese en linux y en windows si |
| 01:53.39 | Davidcc6 | me tiene cabriado eso |
| 01:53.40 | xoz | pook: read bash_completion, it will help you a lot for completing options, filenames, modules using tab completion |
| 01:53.46 | Davidcc6 | ups |
| 01:53.50 | Davidcc6 | wrong place |
| 01:53.52 | Davidcc6 | bye |
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| 01:53.59 | pook | ok |
| 01:55.03 | xoz | pook: like if you use apt-get install acpi<tab> it will show you packages starting with acpi name |
| 01:55.05 | GrayThunder | what time settings does event use? |
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| 01:55.15 | GrayThunder | nm wrong channel |
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| 01:55.55 | linoleum | hi , which program should I use to set up the volume of the sound , with my alsa setp?? aumix ??? |
| 01:55.56 | maestro] | pook: what sound card do you have |
| 01:56.01 | pook | intel |
| 01:56.03 | pook | i think |
| 01:56.11 | maestro] | linoleum: alsamixer |
| 01:56.19 | linoleum | maestro]: tkx mate |
| 01:56.25 | xoz | linoleum: you have to enable pcm and main volume for 2.6 kernel |
| 01:56.30 | maestro] | or alsamixergui if you like that gui things |
| 01:56.46 | maestro] | pook: ok |
| 01:56.50 | pook | is it lsmod? |
| 01:56.54 | pook | ...no.. |
| 01:57.08 | pook | what was the command to determine my hardware? |
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| 01:57.18 | maestro] | pook: lspci |
| 01:57.21 | danthekiwi | what were those numbers i had to look for for realtek nic |
| 01:57.23 | danthekiwi | ? |
| 01:57.23 | linoleum | maestro]: alsamixer doesn't exite, only alsamixergui |
| 01:57.27 | pook | ooh...that's right |
| 01:57.35 | maestro] | danthekiwi: 8139? |
| 01:57.42 | danthekiwi | maybe ty |
| 01:57.43 | xoz | 8139too |
| 01:57.47 | linoleum | maestro]: do you know an other tools which is working whitouh X ? |
| 01:58.09 | The_Vulture | linoleum: alsamixer |
| 01:58.13 | maestro] | linoleum: install alsa-utils, you'll get alsamixer |
| 01:58.29 | danthekiwi | maestro nothing there when i grepped .config what do i have to add to compile those drivers |
| 01:58.31 | danthekiwi | ? |
| 01:58.56 | linoleum | ok tkx :) |
| 01:58.59 | xoz | linoleum: wmmixer if you are using flux or openbox |
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| 01:59.38 | maestro] | danthekiwi: Device Drivers -> Networking Support -> Ethernet 10/100mbit |
| 02:00.15 | maestro] | pook: modprobe snd-intel8x0 |
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| 02:00.50 | danthekiwi | i dont have anything there man, nothing about my realtek card anyway |
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| 02:01.20 | pook | ok |
| 02:01.25 | TimRiker | join #utah |
| 02:01.31 | xoz | pook: try alsaconf |
| 02:01.33 | maestro] | danthekiwi: EISA, VLB, PCI and on board controllers -> RealTek RTL-8139 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter support |
| 02:02.08 | danthekiwi | yeah thats only there as a module theres no sub-options |
| 02:02.11 | TimRiker | ugh... |
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| 02:02.16 | ifup | what is the debian prefered irc client for both cli and gui? |
| 02:02.29 | danthekiwi | nvm |
| 02:02.30 | pook | maestro]: nothing happened with modprobe |
| 02:02.31 | danthekiwi | found it |
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| 02:02.38 | danthekiwi | sorry heh thanks man |
| 02:02.45 | maestro] | danthekiwi: np... |
| 02:02.47 | factotum | ifup, whatever you want, I use irssi myself |
| 02:02.49 | BR | anyone got a USB multi-card reader working where by it can use all the card ports at the same time rather than just one at a time (which I have atm). |
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| 02:02.52 | xoz | irssi, xchat |
| 02:02.56 | maestro] | pook: but it shows up in the list? |
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| 02:03.28 | pook | I have to leave...but i'll back online shortly... I do have source files for that intel8x0 in my kernel |
| 02:03.32 | maestro] | pook: in the lsmod list, sorry |
| 02:03.35 | maestro] | pook: Ok, cya |
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| 02:03.39 | pook | ok.. |
| 02:03.43 | ifup | I have been using xchat havent hear of the irssi Thank you for the info |
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| 02:04.24 | Xenguy | ifup: people generally seem to prefer GUI/Xchat and console/irssi |
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| 02:04.43 | pook | exit |
| 02:04.49 | bob2 | only because we all spend too much time on IRC |
| 02:04.55 | bob2 | and thus keep irssi running in screen all the time |
| 02:05.07 | Xenguy | bob2: hehe, exactly |
| 02:06.22 | maestro] | ther people are using a bnc, but as log as psybnc is the only bnc which brings all the features I need, it's a pain |
| 02:06.33 | maestro] | have you ever _tried_ to read the psybnc sourcecode? |
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| 02:07.57 | tracer | Can anyone help me out, im trying to get alsa drivers installed for my audigy...and im a newb... |
| 02:08.13 | [Alpha]|44331 | GO FUCK YOURSELVES. |
| 02:08.13 | [Alpha]|39061 | GO FUCK YOURSELVES. |
| 02:08.13 | [Alpha]|17529 | GO FUCK YOURSELVES. |
| 02:08.13 | [Alpha]|62568 | GO FUCK YOURSELVES. |
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| 02:08.16 | danthekiwi | i have to tackle that after this compile finishes, tracer |
| 02:08.18 | [Alpha]|44331 | GO FUCK YOURSELVES. |
| 02:08.18 | [Alpha]|63106 | GO FUCK YOURSELVES. |
| 02:08.19 | [Alpha]|52518 | GO FUCK YOURSELVES. |
| 02:08.19 | [Alpha]|17529 | GO FUCK YOURSELVES. |
| 02:08.19 | [Alpha]|39061 | GO FUCK YOURSELVES. |
| 02:08.19 | [Alpha]|62568 | GO FUCK YOURSELVES. |
| 02:08.19 | [Alpha]|31362 | GO FUCK YOURSELVES. |
| 02:08.20 | maestro] | !ops |
| 02:08.20 | dpkg | Meet your friendly #debian operators: bdale, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk. Or: This is the Emergency Debian Hologram please state the nature of your #debian emergency. |
| 02:08.20 | Xenguy | nice |
| 02:08.21 | xoz | !ops |
| 02:08.23 | [Alpha]|62568 | GO FUCK YOURSELVES. |
| 02:08.23 | [Alpha]|63106 | GO FUCK YOURSELVES. |
| 02:08.23 | [Alpha]|52518 | GO FUCK YOURSELVES. |
| 02:08.23 | [Alpha]|17529 | GO FUCK YOURSELVES. |
| 02:08.23 | [Alpha]|44331 | GO FUCK YOURSELVES. |
| 02:08.23 | [Alpha]|39061 | GO FUCK YOURSELVES. |
| 02:08.24 | [Alpha]|31362 | GO FUCK YOURSELVES. |
| 02:08.27 | tracer | mmmm spam |
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| 02:08.30 | jopokolotomo | lol |
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| 02:08.35 | tracer | what you got agensed debian! |
| 02:08.36 | BR | mmmm fun |
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| 02:08.58 | bob2 | sorry people |
| 02:09.01 | bob2 | Rez: |
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| 02:09.07 | bob2 | it's +m, so no one can speak |
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| 02:10.12 | maestro] | bob2: thx |
| 02:10.13 | factotum | heh |
| 02:10.14 | Piru | heh. lame |
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| 02:10.24 | danthekiwi | :o |
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| 02:10.35 | factotum | actually...so do I! |
| 02:10.47 | Xenguy | why dummies like that exist is beyond me |
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| 02:10.53 | tracer | i bet alsa does not ever support audigy 2 ZX with my luck |
| 02:10.55 | maestro] | !ops |
| 02:10.55 | dpkg | Meet your friendly #debian operators: bdale, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk. Or: This is the Emergency Debian Hologram please state the nature of your #debian emergency. |
| 02:10.57 | Piru | oo. lovely |
| 02:11.02 | [PSI]|92490 | GO FUCK YOURSELVES. |
| 02:11.02 | bob2 | maestro]: ? |
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| 02:11.12 | maestro] | bob2: That :) |
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| 02:11.25 | bob2 | wow, isn't this fun |
| 02:11.32 | Piru | now please, you must have bigger botnet, you damn idiot... |
| 02:11.41 | bob2 | KjetilK: apt-listchanges works by source package |
| 02:11.41 | factotum | its entertaining somewhat I guess |
| 02:11.46 | The_Vulture | bob2: hilariously so.. |
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| 02:11.56 | bob2 | KjetilK: so if you have anything from the apache2 source package, you'll get those entries |
| 02:11.59 | caphuso | KjetilK: probably libapr0 |
| 02:12.04 | KjetilK | bob2: Ah right |
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| 02:12.29 | KjetilK | caphuso: Yup, it looks like it |
| 02:12.34 | KjetilK | thanks a lot |
| 02:12.37 | danthekiwi | not only could he get a bigger botnet he could say something a bit more intelligent than GO FUCK YOURSELVES |
| 02:12.41 | maestro] | tracer: Ehrm, what kernel? |
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| 02:12.46 | maestro] | man! |
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| 02:12.48 | [Theta]|44081 | go fuck yourselves. |
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| 02:12.59 | danthekiwi | use some creativity ffs |
| 02:13.00 | tracer | one sec |
| 02:13.05 | KjetilK | This is a semi-production box that I took my chances with, so I'm a bit anxious... :-) |
| 02:13.09 | tracer | Linux Toad 2.6.8-9-amd64-k8 #1 Thu Oct 7 18:19:00 CEST 2004 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 02:13.09 | caphuso | go bob2! |
| 02:13.12 | nvz | bob2: eh, use the clicker. ;) looks like fun to me |
| 02:13.14 | Piru | yeah. lame insults |
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| 02:13.21 | bob2 | caphuso: does that actually work how I think it will? |
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| 02:13.24 | yangsx | I found the latest dpkg in unstable renders string unrecognizable if my LC set to zh_CN.UTF-8 |
| 02:13.26 | Piru | and those nicks are way too easy to spot |
| 02:13.36 | caphuso | bob2: the ban on *!*@*? |
| 02:13.44 | bob2 | [* |
| 02:13.46 | nvz | ban on [*!* |
| 02:13.51 | jon_k | I'm getting *** GTK+ 2.0 is required to build Gaim; please make sure you have the GTK+ development headers installed. any idea what package i need to apt-get in order to get gtk? apt-get gtk and gtk+ return nothing... apt-cache has a bunch of irrelevent results for GTK |
| 02:13.56 | caphuso | bob2: we can hope |
| 02:14.01 | bob2 | jon_k: libgtk2.0-dev |
| 02:14.03 | bob2 | heh |
| 02:14.04 | yangsx | the previous dpkg package does not has the problem. Not sure it's a bug or a feature. |
| 02:14.05 | maestro] | tracer: Did you compile the audigy /emu10k1 drivers while building the kernel? |
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| 02:14.19 | tracer | nope i pretty much apt-got everything |
| 02:14.22 | tracer | even the kernel |
| 02:14.23 | bob2 | banning people with annoying nicks is but a pleasant side effect ;-) |
| 02:14.27 | tracer | totaly newby here |
| 02:14.30 | Piru | :-) |
| 02:14.34 | danthekiwi | maestro], i did with min ebut sound still didnt work |
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| 02:14.42 | caphuso | [Cadet], [TCC]Liberty and [Bas] shouldn't /part |
| 02:14.50 | factotum | tracer, same here LOL last distro was suse 6.3 so dont feel bad |
| 02:14.55 | bob2 | ah |
| 02:14.59 | masterpsk | Hi ppl im looking some info about Apache2 SSL... where i need to put my .csr .key .crt files.... |
| 02:14.59 | maestro] | danthekiwi: You have to load the modules and unmute the gains |
| 02:15.01 | tracer | thanks, feelz better now |
| 02:15.18 | caphuso | and maestro] can say thanks to Phated :) |
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| 02:15.29 | danthekiwi | maestro], network working, thanks man :) |
| 02:15.37 | danthekiwi | brb on debian! |
| 02:15.46 | maestro] | tracer: what about modprobe snd-emu10k1 ? |
| 02:15.50 | tracer | ? |
| 02:15.57 | maestro] | caphuso: lol :) |
| 02:16.06 | maestro] | tracer: type that in a root console? |
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| 02:16.14 | BR | anyone got a USB multi-card reader working where by it can use all the card ports at the same time rather than just one at a time (which I have atm). this is under 2.6.9 btw. |
| 02:16.16 | maestro] | s/\?//; |
| 02:16.20 | maestro] | re the_ultimate_sam |
| 02:16.28 | tracer | now whut |
| 02:16.42 | the_ultimate_sam | my second drive isent showwing up how do i mount it |
| 02:16.45 | tracer | maestro] nothing visable happened |
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| 02:16.58 | maestro] | tracer: but no error? run alsamixer then |
| 02:17.01 | danthekiwi | now arises a new problem :) |
| 02:17.05 | jon_k | the_ultimate_sam, mount /dev/drive /mnt/mountpoint |
| 02:17.10 | danthekiwi | my user account can't connect to X server |
| 02:17.19 | tracer | alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: Invalid argument |
| 02:17.20 | danthekiwi | (i can startx, but i can't run any apps) |
| 02:17.32 | the_ultimate_sam | mountpoint? |
| 02:17.35 | jon_k | or mount -t <filesystem type e.g. ext3> <drive> <mountpoint> |
| 02:17.39 | jon_k | yeah |
| 02:17.43 | tracer | i got an error |
| 02:17.43 | maestro] | danthekiwi: Are you running apps from the console? |
| 02:17.48 | jon_k | like say, my backup drive is /dev/hdb |
| 02:17.48 | tracer | alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: Invalid argument |
| 02:17.50 | jon_k | i do this |
| 02:17.50 | maestro] | tracer: Which one? |
| 02:17.51 | ifup | where does apt-setup store all of the mirrors listed? |
| 02:17.52 | tracer | alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: Invalid argument |
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| 02:18.03 | maestro] | tracer: Aha. lsmod|grep emu |
| 02:18.03 | xoz | the_ultimate_sam: fdisk -l /dev/<drive> ... mount the partition you want |
| 02:18.03 | danthekiwi | maestro: xterm |
| 02:18.06 | jon_k | i do mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hdb1 and then i can access the files in /mnt/hdb1 |
| 02:18.14 | jon_k | what is the drive that you want to mount? |
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| 02:18.33 | maestro] | danthekiwi: did you do su or anything else in the xterm? |
| 02:18.43 | tracer | maestro] then whut? |
| 02:18.55 | maestro] | tracer: what was the output? |
| 02:18.56 | danthekiwi | nah ill paste 3 lines? |
| 02:19.01 | tracer | emu10k1_gp 4352 0 |
| 02:19.01 | tracer | gameport 5120 1 emu10k1_gp |
| 02:19.01 | tracer | snd_emu10k1 90088 0 |
| 02:19.01 | tracer | snd_rawmidi 26532 1 snd_emu10k1 |
| 02:19.01 | tracer | snd_pcm 100876 2 snd_emu10k1,snd_pcm_oss |
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| 02:19.03 | jon_k | the_ultimate_sam what's the drive you wanna mount? |
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| 02:19.13 | danthekiwi | dan@debian:/usr/src$ xchat |
| 02:19.13 | danthekiwi | Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server |
| 02:19.13 | danthekiwi | Xlib: No protocol specified |
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| 02:19.23 | tracer | lol |
| 02:19.24 | Piru | oh lovely |
| 02:19.24 | maestro] | re tracer |
| 02:19.25 | tracer | it kicked me |
| 02:19.26 | danthekiwi | i had to run it as root |
| 02:19.27 | tracer | srry for spam |
| 02:19.30 | Xenguy | wow, the fucktards are loose tonight :-( |
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| 02:19.57 | xoz | maybe, it's *fullmoon* |
| 02:20.15 | bob2 | danthekiwi: why are you running any of this as root? |
| 02:20.20 | Piru | yeah the piss in their head is pulled by the gravity |
| 02:20.30 | Phated | Heh. |
| 02:20.33 | Exasparilla | so, how do I tell Debian what SSID I want my wireless card (pcmcia) to connect to when it's inserted? |
| 02:20.37 | tracer | maestro] how do i get you the output without being kicked? |
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| 02:20.44 | factotum | hmph wierd, my irq7 keeps disabling.. time to go slap around google |
| 02:20.44 | danthekiwi | bob2: just to find out why it wont work as a user |
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| 02:20.53 | danthekiwi | some reason only root can connect to xserver |
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| 02:20.56 | danthekiwi | no user can |
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| 02:21.27 | maestro] | danthekiwi: Are you running the x server as root? |
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| 02:21.47 | maestro] | tracer: I should have told you... paste in in #flood or so |
| 02:22.01 | danthekiwi | seems like it is |
| 02:22.06 | danthekiwi | its runing the way it runs by default |
| 02:22.14 | tracer | maestro] how do i do that? |
| 02:22.17 | maestro] | danthekiwi: Ehrm, how do you start x. starx? |
| 02:22.22 | danthekiwi | yes |
| 02:22.26 | maestro] | tracer: /join #flood |
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| 02:22.37 | BugBear89 | when i use mkfs what is the default file system? |
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| 02:22.42 | maestro] | tracer: run it as the user you want the session to run under |
| 02:22.50 | maestro] | ehrm sorry, dan |
| 02:22.52 | maestro] | ehrm sorry, danthekiwi |
| 02:23.00 | caphuso | BugBear89: ext2 |
| 02:23.04 | maestro] | danthekiwi: or use gdm or something like that |
| 02:23.27 | KjetilK | anybody know if I can disable some snort rules without altering the rules files (that is, without commenting them out)? |
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| 02:23.58 | KjetilK | (robots.txt is there to be read, I don't consider it a security threat) |
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| 02:24.43 | maestro] | tracer: Ok, do you have /proc/asound/sndstat ? |
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| 02:25.17 | BugBear89 | mkfs /dev/hdb |
| 02:25.27 | BugBear89 | would that make ext2 partition? |
| 02:25.29 | bob2 | BugBear89: just specify one |
| 02:25.44 | PerfDave | Wow, people still make ext2 partitions? ;) |
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| 02:25.54 | danthekiwi | well thatw orked, i installed kdm |
| 02:25.56 | caphuso | BugBear89: no. first use fdisk or so to create a partition on /dev/hdb , then run mkfs on /dev/hdb1 |
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| 02:26.05 | danthekiwi | do you know why xdm was being bork? |
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| 02:26.12 | caphuso | there are no ext2 partitions |
| 02:26.13 | xoz | BugBear89: cfdisk /dev/hdb |
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| 02:26.22 | pmcdonnell | What's the prefered way of doing RAID 5? Doing a hw RAID 1 of two sets of 4 200GB sata disks; and then software RAID 5 that? Or something else? |
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| 02:26.47 | bob2 | raid-1 is mirroringl, right? |
| 02:26.56 | tracer | I dont have a sndstat it looks like |
| 02:26.56 | pmcdonnell | bob2, I think so |
| 02:27.01 | maestro] | tracer: ok |
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| 02:27.14 | caphuso | pmcdonnell: raid-5 needs at least 3 disks, so you're not going to get far with two sets |
| 02:27.16 | user01 | usb memory stick i dont think is configured properly...it mounts and then it is unable to unmount in kernel 2.6.7 ... any ideas for troubleshooting? |
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| 02:27.36 | pmcdonnell | caphuso, What if I just software raid 5 all 8 disks? |
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| 02:27.53 | caphuso | pmcdonnell: then you'd have a raid-5 with 8 disks |
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| 02:27.58 | bob2 | raid-5 on 8 disks seems to be asking for trouble |
| 02:28.10 | BugBear89 | xoz: Linux file system or something else? |
| 02:28.14 | bob2 | since you're doen to 2 * mtbf /8 before you're fucked |
| 02:28.15 | xoz | user01: get out from the directory or quit the apps accessing files/directory of usbstick before umount |
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| 02:28.46 | pmcdonnell | Well, basically want I want is something in the 1TB neighborhood, that have a good chance of data recovery. What would you guys suggest for that? |
| 02:28.48 | jetscreamer | debian overflow is gay |
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| 02:29.01 | caphuso | bob2: then make it a 3 disks raid-5 with 5 spares ;-) |
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| 02:29.17 | bob2 | haha |
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| 02:29.24 | xoz | BugBear89: linux (83) or whatever file system you'll need. |
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| 02:29.34 | user01 | xoz: i dont have anything mounted that i know |
| 02:29.39 | maestro] | tracer: can you make modprobe snd-pcm-oss ? |
| 02:29.54 | aida-night | user01: tell user02 that he forgot his sandwich on my desk |
| 02:29.55 | xoz | user01: lsof | grep -i <mounted directory> |
| 02:29.58 | PerfDave | jetscreamer: Did it touch you in inappropriate plaecs? |
| 02:30.01 | pmcdonnell | bob2, caphuso, what would you suggest? |
| 02:30.03 | Piru | ok, these drones have silly identd hacked in, it generates random username. I once modified some smaller net's ircd authentication to do two identd queries.. and if two different ids were returned -> boot :) |
| 02:30.05 | BugBear89 | xoz: and then what do i do? |
| 02:30.15 | bob2 | Piru: hah, nice |
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| 02:30.24 | tracer | maestro]: no error |
| 02:30.36 | maestro] | tracer: and snd-mixer-oss? |
| 02:30.41 | xoz | BugBear89: use mkfs.<filetype> /dev/<partition> |
| 02:30.46 | caphuso | pmcdonnell: 8 disks with 200GiB each and you want exactly one filesystem? |
| 02:30.46 | tracer | maestro]: same |
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| 02:30.51 | Piru | that took care of the pb there, the guy(s) weren't skilled enough to figure out how we blocked them.. and he/they gave up :) |
| 02:30.56 | maestro] | tracer: ok, and they show up in lsmod? |
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| 02:31.12 | user01 | aida-night: that user02 always does stuff like that...that`s why user01 rocks |
| 02:31.14 | tracer | maestro]: yes |
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| 02:31.24 | maestro] | tracer: apt-get install aumix |
| 02:31.24 | xoz | BugBear89: first, cfdisk created the partition. mkfs will format your disk for a particular filesystem |
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| 02:31.35 | pmcdonnell | caphuso, basically. I've read stuff about making separate file systems, and the using LVM to tie them together |
| 02:31.43 | BugBear89 | xoz: and then mount it? |
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| 02:31.46 | tracer | maestro]: done |
| 02:31.49 | xoz | BugBear89: yep |
| 02:31.53 | maestro] | tracer: run aumix |
| 02:32.04 | Phated | Dear god, isn't that like 3 bans in a night, bob2? |
| 02:32.05 | tracer | maestro]: ok |
| 02:32.11 | maestro] | tracer: what happened? |
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| 02:32.15 | aida-night | there are too many people in this channel |
| 02:32.15 | xoz | BugBear89: include it in /etc/fstab .. so that next booting, it is automatically mounted |
| 02:32.19 | bob2 | Phated: oh, you missed the 10 in 20 seconds earlier |
| 02:32.21 | aida-night | we should kick all the excess fat |
| 02:32.24 | tracer | maestro]: its some kind of table |
| 02:32.28 | aida-night | make it nice and lean |
| 02:32.31 | BugBear89 | xoz: when i mount it i keep getting errors |
| 02:32.33 | Phated | bob2: The ones that got shuttled to #debian-overflow? |
| 02:32.34 | maestro] | tracer: ok, it's woring then |
| 02:32.36 | BugBear89 | wrong file system |
| 02:32.37 | tracer | maestro]: its a mixer |
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| 02:32.45 | maestro] | tracer: moev the cursors to set PCM and Vol |
| 02:32.48 | user01 | xoz: that has to be run as root? |
| 02:32.55 | bob2 | Phated: hrm, I dunno |
| 02:32.55 | xoz | BugBear89: mount -t <filesystem> |
| 02:32.55 | caphuso | pmcdonnell: hmmm, i think you could setup two raid-5 and merge them via lvm |
| 02:32.58 | tracer | maestro]: ok |
| 02:33.03 | caphuso | pmcdonnell: or maybe some raid-10 setup |
| 02:33.04 | maestro] | tracer: did it work? |
| 02:33.05 | tracer | maestro]: vol is up and pcm is up |
| 02:33.05 | bing | can somebody help me troubleshoot an iptables masquerading problem? |
| 02:33.10 | pmcdonnell | caphuso, how would that work? |
| 02:33.55 | maestro] | tracer: k, so play something |
| 02:33.55 | Phated | bob2: Meh, nevermind. Scary to see two ops though. :) |
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| 02:33.55 | caphuso | pmcdonnell: the software-raid-howto on tldp.org has all the details |
| 02:33.55 | BugBear89 | xoz: doesn't come up |
| 02:33.55 | aida-night | pmcdonnell: buy 2 500GB drives and a nice raid 0 |
| 02:33.55 | aida-night | save yourself the headache |
| 02:33.55 | caphuso | aida-night: he wants data security |
| 02:33.55 | taer | ugh.. raid0.. |
| 02:33.55 | caphuso | raid-0 is insanity |
| 02:33.56 | PerfDave | It's ban-tastic :) |
| 02:33.56 | aida-night | then by 3 |
| 02:33.56 | pwned | I want to use the mms:// (multimedia streaming protocol) through xine, if possible, how can I find the package which does this? |
| 02:33.56 | aida-night | and do raid 5 |
| 02:33.56 | aida-night | buy* |
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| 02:33.56 | xoz | user01: not necessarily. possible that a bash shell is inside one of the mounted dir or a program like kdeapp still has a running app in the background |
| 02:33.57 | caphuso | aida-night: he already got 8 disks... |
| 02:33.59 | maestro] | tracer: did it work? |
| 02:34.03 | bob2 | pmcdonnell: dunno, I'm a shitty sysadmin |
| 02:34.10 | pmcdonnell | caphuso, so you do recommend hardware raid 5 rather than software? |
| 02:34.12 | bob2 | tho 0+1 gets you 800GB |
| 02:34.14 | aida-night | 8 * 200 ?? :/ |
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| 02:34.19 | Klux | hi |
| 02:34.23 | tracer | maestro]: music player (when i tryed to play an audio station) could not create audio output element |
| 02:34.24 | Klux | :) |
| 02:34.33 | caphuso | pmcdonnell: do you have a hardware raid controller capable of doing raid-5? |
| 02:34.36 | user01 | xoz: im in gnome |
| 02:34.36 | stew | pmcdonnell: hardware raid over software raid always |
| 02:34.36 | xoz | BugBear89: mount -t <filetype> /dev/<partition> /mountpoint. where is it located? /dev/hdb1? |
| 02:34.38 | tracer | maestro]: then told me to check my settings |
| 02:34.45 | Kraig | dudes... i'm pretty drunk, i rememember once a guy enabled RAID(1) on a SCSI disk in the kernel, but i don't remember what was next! :P |
| 02:34.45 | maestro] | tracer: Hm ok |
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| 02:34.56 | pmcdonnell | stew, I've heard equally vehement opinions in the other direction. |
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| 02:35.07 | pmcdonnell | caphuso, I could get one if its better than software |
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| 02:35.09 | Kraig | nice shot! |
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| 02:35.12 | xoz | user01: same, if lsof |grep <mounted dir> shows something, kill that process |
| 02:35.18 | bob2 | haha |
| 02:35.18 | Kraig | yeah! |
| 02:35.23 | caphuso | double kill! |
| 02:35.29 | tracer | maestro]: and if i try to open volume control it says srry, no mixer elements/or devices found |
| 02:35.29 | user01 | xoz: cant run it as user |
| 02:35.31 | Kraig | caphuso: LOL! |
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| 02:35.37 | danthekiwi | sorry to be a pain in the ass |
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| 02:35.43 | dan2 | bob2: you aren't by any chance good at solving irq conflicts |
| 02:35.48 | caphuso | pmcdonnell: well, a decent hardware solution is better, for various technical reasons |
| 02:35.49 | danthekiwi | but now my nvidia drivers wont compile :(:(:( |
| 02:35.57 | maestro] | tracer: hm ok... apt-get install mpg321 |
| 02:36.00 | bob2 | dan2: I didn't think they happened anymore |
| 02:36.03 | Kraig | danthekiwi: why is that? |
| 02:36.03 | maestro] | tracer: mpg321 http://wigwam.lugs.ch/~hal/mp3/christmas_in_my_heart.mp3 |
| 02:36.07 | xoz | user01: apt-get install lsof |
| 02:36.08 | pmcdonnell | caphuso, what brands/cards would be "decent"? |
| 02:36.09 | maestro] | tracer: do that in a root console |
| 02:36.10 | caphuso | pmcdonnell: especially if you get some quality stuff with nifty features like battery backup |
| 02:36.11 | danthekiwi | -> done. |
| 02:36.11 | danthekiwi | -> Kernel module compilation complete. |
| 02:36.11 | danthekiwi | ERROR: Unable to load the kernel module 'nvidia.ko'. This is most likely |
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| 02:36.21 | taer | pmcdonnell, I use the LSI megaraid a lot |
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| 02:36.25 | xoz | so man *ssholes* today |
| 02:36.31 | Piru | heh that idiot can't even spell (ircname) |
| 02:36.33 | PerfDave | !beer bob2 |
| 02:36.33 | danthekiwi | sorry didnt think 4 lines would be a problem |
| 02:36.33 | bob2 | ouch |
| 02:36.36 | PerfDave | !beer caphuso |
| 02:36.37 | jetscreamer | PerfDave, yes... it touch my sensibilities in a wrong fashion |
| 02:36.39 | pmcdonnell | taer, I see |
| 02:36.44 | tracer | it works |
| 02:36.47 | tracer | THANKS |
| 02:36.54 | Klux | i'm having some problem with tvtime after upgrade: after exec tvtime entire pc is freezed. I am on sarge, vido card: sis and tvcard pinacle chip: bt848 |
| 02:36.58 | dan2 | bob2: I can't figure out how to handle this |
| 02:36.58 | staniel | danthekiwi: check the log there, is there anything about __VMALLOC_RESERVE? |
| 02:36.59 | Stinky | *greedily smokes crack |
| 02:36.59 | maestro] | tracer: Does it work in the player as well? |
| 02:37.00 | Klux | some idea? |
| 02:37.07 | taer | pmcdonnell, I think its on the more expensive side though.. We use a lot of scsi raid 5/10s |
| 02:37.19 | maestro] | Klux: maybe wrong tuner |
| 02:37.28 | maestro] | Klux: or wrong card= setting |
| 02:37.30 | taer | pmcdonnell, speed though is questionable.. the SW can be quicker |
| 02:37.36 | Kraig | so, does anyone has a comment about RAID? |
| 02:37.36 | tracer | maestro]: i still cant control the sound volume using volume control |
| 02:37.45 | danthekiwi | grepped for VMALLOC and nothing |
| 02:37.46 | dan2 | bob2: want to see the spitout from the kernel |
| 02:37.55 | maestro] | tracer: what is the user you are trying to control the mixer? |
| 02:37.59 | tracer | maestro]: root |
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| 02:38.12 | maestro] | danthekiwi: Do you have unresolved symbols? |
| 02:38.16 | Kraig | so, what's next after setting RAID support in the kernel? |
| 02:38.17 | tracer | maestro]: OOPS |
| 02:38.17 | bob2 | fast |
| 02:38.20 | pmcdonnell | Well, what's the best way to organize this? I could do a RAID 5 on two sets of 4 250GB disks, and raid 1 them together |
| 02:38.22 | user01 | xoz: lsof looks useful... |
| 02:38.23 | Kraig | lol |
| 02:38.29 | Klux | but it was workin with all setting by default until one week ago, but after update && upgrade, freeze 4 ever |
| 02:38.30 | danthekiwi | grepped for unresolved, nothing |
| 02:38.30 | maestro] | tracer: you run kde as root?? |
| 02:38.33 | tracer | maestro]: THE USER THAT CONTROLS THE MIXER IS REG USER |
| 02:38.37 | Kraig | user01: lsof looks USEFULL! |
| 02:38.38 | tracer | maestro]: heh |
| 02:38.39 | xoz | user01: *very much* |
| 02:38.44 | tracer | maestro]: srry for caps logs |
| 02:38.50 | Kraig | hehe |
| 02:38.52 | maestro] | tracer: so the username is reg? |
| 02:38.52 | tracer | maestro]: lock* |
| 02:38.53 | Kraig | brb |
| 02:38.58 | tracer | maestro]: tracer |
| 02:39.01 | Kraig | need more beer to drink! |
| 02:39.12 | dan2 | bob2: come to flood |
| 02:39.16 | danthekiwi | staniel, could i send you the log via email? |
| 02:39.17 | maestro] | tracer: what shows 'groups tracer' ? |
| 02:39.33 | Klux | ? |
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| 02:39.36 | staniel | danthekiwi: umm first, what kernel and what nvidia driver? |
| 02:39.41 | maestro] | danthekiwi: hold on... are you getting unresolved symbols when you modprobe nvidia? |
| 02:39.42 | tracer | tracer : tracer dialout cdrom floppy audio video |
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| 02:39.54 | tracer | maestro]: seems audio is there |
| 02:39.55 | maestro] | tracer: and ls -l /dev/audio |
| 02:39.56 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@ti531210a080-1698.bb.online.no] by caphuso |
| 02:39.58 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@ti531210a080-1698.bb.online.no] by bob2 |
| 02:39.58 | *** part/#debian RezH8ter (~WeH8UFAGS@ti531210a080-1698.bb.online.no) |
| 02:40.14 | *** mode/#debian [+b Rez*!*@*] by caphuso |
| 02:40.18 | Klux | :) |
| 02:40.18 | xoz | danthekiwi: you cannot just pull a binary module and install it in any kernel version... they should match. |
| 02:40.19 | tracer | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 Nov 12 19:34 /dev/audio -> /dev/audio0 |
| 02:40.28 | caphuso | Rez: i hope you can handle that... |
| 02:40.30 | danthekiwi | maestro], cant locate module, the installer couldnt compile it |
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| 02:40.39 | maestro] | tracer: ls -l /dev/audio0 then |
| 02:40.47 | danthekiwi | said to make sure my kernel sources were the same as the one sused to compile the running kernel, and they are |
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| 02:40.51 | tracer | maestro]: crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 4 Nov 12 19:34 /dev/audio0 |
| 02:41.04 | staniel | danthekiwi: where is the kernel source? |
| 02:41.06 | maestro] | tracer: Hrm, this is trange... should work |
| 02:41.17 | Stinky | ahhhh so many things so little brain power |
| 02:41.17 | maestro] | tracer: Try to logout and login again, but don't reboot |
| 02:41.24 | tracer | maestro]: kk |
| 02:41.25 | danthekiwi | /usr/src/kernel-2.6.8 there is a symlink from /usr/src/linux too |
| 02:41.28 | jetscreamer | staniel, they call them kernel-headers if you didn't compile the kernel yourself |
| 02:41.40 | jetscreamer | apt-get install some |
| 02:41.46 | caphuso | jetscreamer: they are also compiled kernel-headers if yuo compiled your kernel yourself |
| 02:41.56 | caphuso | jetscreamer: s/compiled k/called k/ |
| 02:42.05 | Phated | What on Earth... is this Uber-sunday or something? |
| 02:42.09 | staniel | danthekiwi: and its 2.6.8 that you are using? |
| 02:42.14 | stew | !friday |
| 02:42.14 | dpkg | it has been said that friday is Tardsday Eve Eve |
| 02:42.14 | danthekiwi | yeah |
| 02:42.23 | jetscreamer | which is silly since the source is the headers that is for remote boxes imo that you compile kernels for |
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| 02:42.40 | WeH8UFAGS | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:42.40 | WeH8UFAGS | %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% |
| 02:42.40 | WeH8UFAGS | %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% <---Rez and Bob2 love sucking this |
| 02:42.41 | WeH8UFAGS | %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% AND BELIEVE US, THEY KNOW HOW TO MAD SUCK |
| 02:42.41 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@pool-209-158-254-234.cap.east.verizon.net] by caphuso |
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| 02:42.42 | xoz | Phated: this is a special weekend... probably there is an eclipse going on. |
| 02:42.42 | *** kick/#debian [WeH8UFAGS!~debhelper@debhelper.user] by debhelper (flood: Consider using #flood) |
| 02:42.45 | jetscreamer | s/headers/headers,/ |
| 02:42.47 | maestro] | re tracer |
| 02:42.50 | tracer | same thing |
| 02:43.07 | maestro] | danthekiwi: What is the exact output of uname -a ? |
| 02:43.12 | Phated | xoz: Dear GOD. |
| 02:43.16 | danthekiwi | Linux debian 2.6.8 #1 Fri Nov 12 01:11:46 EST 2004 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 02:43.57 | tracer | mastero]: when i try to open volume control i still get srry, no mixer elements and/or devices found |
| 02:43.59 | xoz | Phated: it started with the spanish guy |
| 02:44.04 | Piru | this is boring. oh I remember the days of really GOOD hackers and real takeovers, instead of such sucky scriptkiddies |
