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| 00:00.18 | ChrisW | PerfDave: yes, but usually it tells you these packages were held back |
| 00:00.25 | ChrisW | why is it not doing this for nessus? |
| 00:00.39 | caphuso | ChrisW: what does 'dpkg -l nessus | tail -1' say? |
| 00:01.03 | ChrisW | rc nessus 1.0.10-2 Remote network security auditor, the client |
| 00:01.15 | caphuso | ChrisW: uhm, it's not installed |
| 00:01.25 | ChrisW | oh? |
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| 00:01.29 | caphuso | that _might_ explain it |
| 00:01.29 | ChrisW | hurm |
| 00:01.37 | ChrisW | what does the rc bit mean then? |
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| 00:01.45 | caphuso | ChrisW: removed and configured |
| 00:01.48 | intrin | www.intritech.com/zap.html = my error, if anyone could be of serivce, while compiling |
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| 00:02.07 | caphuso | ChrisW: used to be installed, has been removed but not purged |
| 00:02.28 | abrotman | asg: see |
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| 00:02.43 | ChrisW | weird |
| 00:02.49 | ChrisW | I wonder how I installed it then :-S |
| 00:03.10 | BuzzedSaw | do the OSS and ALSA modules conflict? |
| 00:03.30 | abrotman | you can't use them on the same device afaik |
| 00:03.56 | interalia | chrisw: the output of dpkg -l tells you what the letters r and c mean |
| 00:04.21 | BuzzedSaw | would modconf be the way to unload them? |
| 00:04.36 | abrotman | can be |
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| 00:04.48 | abrotman | yay .. new wine |
| 00:05.42 | BuzzedSaw | ok, I can't unload the OSS modules via modconf, get an error. should I uninstall the ALSA packages? |
| 00:05.55 | abrotman | what error? |
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| 00:06.51 | BuzzedSaw | module in use |
| 00:06.54 | abrotman | bah . not really a new wine |
| 00:07.06 | abrotman | so unuse it |
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| 00:07.33 | BuzzedSaw | that's what I'm trying to do when the error occurs |
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| 00:07.35 | nvz | I wonder if jslaunch would work with a USB gamepad.. I've used it before a while back with a gameport before.. I could use a remote for this pc |
| 00:07.54 | abrotman | BuzzedSaw: this with rmmod or modconf? |
| 00:08.20 | BuzzedSaw | modconf |
| 00:08.39 | abrotman | then stop using it .. see what other modules are using it |
| 00:08.41 | abrotman | lsmod |
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| 00:09.45 | TheStar | Why doesn't ntpdate set itself up as a daemon? |
| 00:09.49 | rcs_ | my mbr is corrupt, whats the command to boot your system from cd? |
| 00:09.54 | TheStar | I gather that this is the recommended mode of operation? |
| 00:10.01 | rcs_ | linux root=/dev/hda1 - kernel panic ? |
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| 00:10.54 | Phated | rescue root-/dev/hda1. |
| 00:10.58 | Phated | s/-/=/ |
| 00:11.30 | Phated | rcs_: ^ |
| 00:11.49 | rcs_ | oki |
| 00:12.16 | awol | assuming your root file system is on /dev/hda1 of course.... |
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| 00:12.37 | rcs_ | yes it is |
| 00:12.48 | rcs_ | hmm.. this is from a netinst sarge |
| 00:13.42 | SerpentWolf | debian + radeon = shit |
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| 00:13.56 | rcs_ | hmm |
| 00:14.05 | rcs_ | rescue root=/dev/hda1 - can't find kernel image |
| 00:14.05 | TheStar | SerpentWolf: Radeons seem to be unreliable even on windows. |
| 00:14.26 | TheStar | SerpentWolf: Or, rather, makes windows far *more* unreliable(!) |
| 00:14.33 | SerpentWolf | TheStar: true... but i cant even get teh driver installed. such a hassle. |
| 00:14.42 | rich_ | SerpentWolf do tell? My rage mobility pro is supposed to be the generation before the radeon and it works great |
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| 00:14.54 | TheStar | SerpentWolf: Sell it and get an NVidea |
| 00:14.58 | TheStar | *NVidia |
| 00:15.09 | SerpentWolf | only way out indeed. |
| 00:15.14 | TheStar | SerpentWolf: Performance may be slightly lower, but ease of installation far outweighs that. |
| 00:15.53 | SerpentWolf | which nvidia equivs the 9200SE :P im going to make a plan tommorow... |
| 00:15.53 | rich_ | Is nvidia supported? |
| 00:16.02 | SerpentWolf | i feel incomplete when my debian is incomplete |
| 00:16.08 | kensai | rich_, yep |
| 00:16.23 | SerpentWolf | nvidia has nice drivers. |
| 00:16.30 | green_earz | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:16.39 | kensai | nvidia has the best freaking drivers for linux |
| 00:16.55 | SerpentWolf | excellent. im sold. |
| 00:16.58 | kensai | they even have the largest Linux database for testing their chips |
| 00:17.03 | budluva | is it possible to send a file through putty/ssh? |
| 00:17.12 | caphuso | budluva: pscp |
| 00:17.13 | rich_ | I don't think nvidia is any better supported than ati, but at least people who use ati dont lie about it |
| 00:17.13 | SerpentWolf | budluva: scp |
| 00:17.15 | Phated | sftp. |
| 00:17.19 | PerfDave | budluva: pscp or winscp |
| 00:17.21 | rich_ | thanks |
| 00:17.23 | budluva | whats that? |
| 00:17.36 | nvz | budluva: google for putty |
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| 00:17.41 | kensai | rich_, Hmm? |
| 00:17.45 | nvz | budluva: the scp program is on the same site |
| 00:17.45 | budluva | i have putty |
| 00:17.51 | Phated | Actually... nvidia have really good drivers. You might want to actually try it out sometime before critisicing it. |
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| 00:18.12 | kensai | rich_, ati is making good drivers now |
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| 00:18.17 | SerpentWolf | i agree, had nvidia before ati, was far better experience in my unbiased opinion :) |
| 00:18.21 | kensai | rich_, but for the newer cards |
| 00:18.27 | digijohn | Hey |
| 00:18.46 | digijohn | My brother's Sarge box boots up, but then locks when he types in a username |
| 00:19.16 | kensai | but nvidia is putting much more effort in Linux than ATI is doing, ATI has not taken Linux seriosly |
| 00:19.18 | digijohn | It doesn't display a password prompt, then after much more then 60 seconds says "Login timed out after 60 seconds" |
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| 00:19.50 | SerpentWolf | ill bbl, got so much setups to do... laters. |
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| 00:20.04 | dondelelcaro | digijohn: so the box hasn't locked up, but is just not displaying the password prompt, and you can probably switch to a different VT too, right? |
| 00:20.09 | green_earz | SerpentWolf, i have had better results with nvidia own drive for 3d than debian nvidia driver for 3d |
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| 00:20.51 | digijohn | dondelelcaro: yes |
| 00:21.05 | dondelelcaro | digijohn: anyway, sounds like login is dying for some reason. Boot with init=/bin/bash; and reinstall login. |
| 00:21.17 | cesarbr | can someone explain how do I fix the error 139 bug with wine? According to what I found I should be updating my glibc, but how can I do that? |
| 00:21.31 | rich_ | Even though I use ati I wont lie, some of the radeons are not supported. I've heard theres three different chipsets for them. My next card will probably be a matrox |
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| 00:21.56 | rich_ | I heard that Really are supported |
| 00:22.01 | rich_ | matrox |
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| 00:22.55 | kensai | rich_, good luck then. I'll stay with my good ol nvidia 3 ti 200 which runs UT2004 perfectly at 1024x768 ;) |
| 00:22.58 | cesarbr | How can I update my glibc with apt? what's the package name? |
| 00:23.13 | digijohn | dondelelcaro: I'm at the bash prompt, now what? |
| 00:23.21 | TheStar | cesarbr: If you want to update your glibc, take a backup, and then get a new version of debian, and upgrade to it. |
| 00:23.33 | TheStar | cesarbr: Everything depends on glibc, *everything*. |
| 00:23.36 | rich_ | kensai Thats good because we need someone to tell the other users of nvidia that they bought the wrong card. |
| 00:23.49 | rich_ | I mean the wrong model |
| 00:23.55 | TheStar | cesarbr: Most think it's the kernel that the distro depends on, wrong, it's glibc. |
| 00:24.03 | kensai | rich_, wrong model? |
| 00:24.05 | cesarbr | TheStar: :\ |
| 00:24.09 | rich_ | or which model to get |
| 00:24.22 | zirikili | what's the version of gnome on sid? |
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| 00:24.32 | kensai | zirikili, 2.8.1 |
| 00:24.40 | cesarbr | TheStar: linuxinfo says I've got system library 2.3.2, whats the newest one? |
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| 00:25.07 | digijohn | Is there a dpkg command to refresh a package? |
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| 00:25.47 | nevyn | digijohn: refresh? |
| 00:25.52 | dvhart | what is a nameserver RR in the context of bind? |
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| 00:26.00 | citral | apt-get update; apt-get install package |
| 00:26.02 | TheStar | cesarbr: Can't remember, most people just stick with what they have. |
| 00:26.04 | cesarbr | 2.3.2-ds1-18 I think, but even now Wine keeps crashing |
| 00:26.18 | TheStar | cesarbr: Wine will always crash. |
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| 00:26.26 | digijohn | By refresh I mean to overwrite the old files |
| 00:26.26 | cesarbr | but in startup |
| 00:26.32 | SerpentWolf | btw, what shoul default runlevel be... 2 or 3 ? |
| 00:26.38 | digijohn | Since the advice given to me was "reinstall login" |
| 00:26.39 | TheStar | cesarbr: Try compiling wine yourself, from CVS. |
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| 00:26.41 | cesarbr | it wasn't like this until a apt-get upgrade |
| 00:26.58 | TheStar | cesarbr: Let me guess - it upgraded wine? |
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| 00:27.16 | cesarbr | TheStar: yes |
| 00:27.19 | cesarbr | . |
| 00:27.19 | rich_ | SerpentWolf normally 2, but I think you can set it in /etc/inittab |
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| 00:27.26 | TheStar | cesarbr: Oops, it must've already updated glibc for you, and wine is for the old one, or whatever. |
| 00:27.35 | TheStar | cesarbr: Should still be able to manually compile the latest wine, though. |
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| 00:28.03 | digijohn | By the way, I can't ssh into the box |
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| 00:28.09 | cesarbr | TheStar: but I like debian packages =~ |
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| 00:28.24 | TheStar | cesarbr: If you like wine, you will come to like it's CVS. |
| 00:28.30 | cesarbr | hm |
| 00:28.32 | TheStar | cesarbr: The very nature of wine demands it, imho. |
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| 00:28.42 | TheStar | cesarbr: Note that I am not really a wine user. |
| 00:28.59 | cesarbr | then I'll have to learn how do use a cvs system |
| 00:29.00 | Clau | hello everybody |
| 00:29.01 | TheStar | cesarbr: But I wouldn't really recommend cvs for any other program. |
| 00:29.16 | TheStar | cesarbr: It's quite easy :) They have instructions buried somehwere on the winehq.org site. |
| 00:29.17 | cesarbr | *to |
| 00:29.23 | tell | what are cool linux progs to show off with? |
| 00:29.25 | cesarbr | k I'll search for it |
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| 00:29.29 | cesarbr | thanks |
| 00:29.30 | cesarbr | but.. |
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| 00:29.38 | PerfDave | tell: Doom 3 :) |
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| 00:29.47 | cesarbr | I don't think this is only my problem with wine, glibc and debian |
| 00:29.49 | dondelelcaro | tell: you can show off quite easily with find, xargs, and anything else. |
| 00:29.51 | TheStar | cesarbr: Downloading a tree from cvs is dead easy, it's not quite as easy to *use* a cvs system. (ie, checkins, updates, etc) |
| 00:29.58 | Clau | how can I accept downloads automatically with xchat2? |
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| 00:30.00 | tell | PerfDave : can't run it on my 1Ghz .. |
| 00:30.10 | dondelelcaro | cesarbr: check the bts, and file a bug if your problem is repeatable. |
| 00:30.11 | TheStar | Clau: You don't want to. |
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| 00:30.24 | tell | something like bb for instance |
| 00:30.25 | TheStar | Clau: It's a common exploit, for people to send stuff to everyone in irc. |
| 00:30.43 | TheStar | Clau: Stuff named xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, for isntance, or ssssssssssssssssssss, and the like. |
| 00:30.49 | cesarbr | dondelelcaro I already found the reason for this bug and how to solve it.. but.. the fix was to update my glibc |
| 00:30.55 | kensai | By God, Debian is keeping me away from booting Ubuntu |
| 00:30.55 | rich_ | Clau It's not in the preferences? Thats where I saw it last |
| 00:30.58 | TheStar | Clau: The perpetuator then focuses on those clients that accept. |
| 00:31.26 | Clau | even if I am only in a known chanel? |
| 00:31.35 | cesarbr | TheStar: anyways, which package contains glibc? |
| 00:31.37 | rich_ | Clau Oh yea they are right too, dont do it if you don't want files. |
| 00:31.37 | dondelelcaro | cesarbr: randomly updating glibc is never what you want to do. |
| 00:31.49 | TheStar | cesarbr: Do a search for glibc (apt-cache search glibc) |
| 00:31.51 | rich_ | :) |
| 00:31.52 | dondelelcaro | cesarbr: what version of debian are you running? |
| 00:31.55 | cesarbr | yeah I did |
| 00:31.58 | cesarbr | but |
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| 00:32.11 | TheStar | dondelelcaro: You take over, please, I'm in over my depth. |
| 00:32.11 | cesarbr | there is a ton of packages with glibc |
| 00:32.22 | TheStar | dondelelcaro: But I've already told him how central glibc is. |
| 00:32.22 | cesarbr | dondelelcaro: testing |
| 00:32.27 | dondelelcaro | TheStar: good... |
| 00:32.30 | cesarbr | TheStar: :p |
| 00:32.40 | dondelelcaro | !info libc6 sarge |
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| 00:32.44 | dpkg | libc6: (GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data), section base, is required. Version: 2.3.2.ds1-18 (sarge), Packaged size: 4805 kB, Installed size: 15604 kB |
| 00:32.49 | dondelelcaro | !info libc6 sid |
| 00:32.49 | Clau | ok, thanks. and how can I serve files? there s a script? |
| 00:32.50 | cesarbr | I have this one |
| 00:33.00 | dpkg | libc6: (GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data), section base, is required. Version: 2.3.2.ds1-18 (sid), Packaged size: 4805 kB, Installed size: 15604 kB |
| 00:33.13 | dondelelcaro | cesarbr: so as you can see, there isn't a more updated libc6 package. |
| 00:33.17 | cesarbr | dondelelcaro: do you use wine? |
| 00:33.23 | dondelelcaro | cesarbr: occasionally... |
| 00:33.33 | cesarbr | dondelelcaro: but it runs, at least? |
| 00:33.39 | dondelelcaro | cesarbr: certainly. |
| 00:33.43 | TheStar | dondelelcaro: cesarbr has glibc incompatibilities with wine. |
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| 00:33.55 | TheStar | dondelelcaro: I'm telling him to compile his own from cvs. |
| 00:33.55 | dondelelcaro | cesarbr: which version of the wine package do you have installed? |
| 00:34.05 | cesarbr | lastest from sarge |
| 00:34.16 | dondelelcaro | cesarbr: I didn't ask where it came from. I asked what version you were running. |
| 00:34.18 | dondelelcaro | cesarbr: dpkg -l wine |
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| 00:34.51 | cesarbr | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:35.27 | dondelelcaro | cesarbr: ok, that's not the newest version in sarge. |
| 00:35.35 | cesarbr | no? |
| 00:35.46 | cesarbr | but I did a upgrade right now and it got it.. |
| 00:35.48 | dondelelcaro | cesarbr: no. The newest version is 0.0.20040716-1.2 |
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| 00:35.53 | digijohn | HOW DO I REINSTALL "LOGIN"? |
| 00:35.59 | dondelelcaro | !tell digijohn about caps |
| 00:36.25 | digijohn | heh |
| 00:36.29 | dondelelcaro | digijohn: apt-get --reinstall install login; after remounting / rw, and running mount -a; |
| 00:36.35 | digijohn | ah |
| 00:36.38 | digijohn | Thank you very much |
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| 00:36.59 | cesarbr | dondelelcaro: erm.. what can I do so? |
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| 00:37.15 | dondelelcaro | cesarbr: check with COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l wine; really quick... |
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| 00:37.22 | rich_ | Clau I'm sorry, they removed the option. At least I dont see it anymore :| |
| 00:37.30 | dondelelcaro | cesarbr: also, let me know what the output of dpkg -l libc6; is |
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| 00:37.58 | TheStar | dpkg keeps asking me questiosn that have already been asked, how do I change that setting? |
| 00:38.00 | dpkg | You are moron #51, TheStar |
| 00:38.05 | cesarbr | ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-18 |
| 00:38.09 | TheStar | dpkg: Why, *THANK YOU*! |
| 00:38.10 | dpkg | bugger all, i dunno, TheStar |
| 00:38.20 | tell | great |
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| 00:38.33 | dondelelcaro | TheStar: debconf isn't supposed to, but if the question has been changed, it'll ask you again. |
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| 00:39.11 | TheStar | dondelelcaro: I remember a setting to change it. |
| 00:39.23 | dondelelcaro | TheStar: the setting you modulate is the priority level. |
| 00:39.23 | TheStar | dondelelcaro: By default, your right, it doesn't. |
| 00:39.32 | TheStar | dondelelcaro: Where do I set that? |
| 00:39.41 | dondelelcaro | TheStar: dpkg-reconfigure debconf; man debconf; |
| 00:39.42 | tell | !dondelelcaro |
| 00:39.42 | dpkg | dondelelcaro is, like, clinically insane, |
| 00:39.48 | cesarbr | dondelelcaro: dpkg -l tells me my wine is 0.0.20040716-1, but synaptic says it is 0.0.20040716-1.3 |
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| 00:39.52 | cesarbr | whats the deal? |
| 00:40.08 | dondelelcaro | cesarbr: uh, 1.3 isn't even in sarge. |
| 00:40.08 | TheStar | dondelelcaro: Thanks :) |
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| 00:40.30 | dondelelcaro | cesarbr: and what was the output of COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l wine; |
| 00:40.34 | tell | !tell |
| 00:40.36 | TheStar | cesarbr: Did you by any chance, install packages from testing? |
| 00:40.45 | FieldySnuts | @kill tell |
| 00:40.55 | cesarbr | TheStar: testing isn't the same as sarge? |
| 00:41.15 | TheStar | cesarbr: I can never keep up with the ToyStory names :/ |
| 00:41.29 | tell | !slap fieldysnuts |
| 00:41.35 | FieldySnuts | ;/ |
| 00:41.35 | cesarbr | TheStar: me neither, but yes, its a sarge release |
| 00:41.41 | cesarbr | dondelelcaro: ii wine 0.0.20040716-1.3 |
| 00:41.43 | digijohn | gar |
| 00:41.44 | cesarbr | ahn |
| 00:41.52 | digijohn | How do I remount / as rw? |
| 00:41.53 | matt_ | anybody know of an application that will stream mpeg-4 over rtp ? |
| 00:42.05 | FieldySnuts | mount -v -o remount,rw / |
| 00:42.09 | cesarbr | .3 was hiding behind the column limit |
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| 00:42.14 | cesarbr | :p |
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| 00:42.35 | cesarbr | I did this update right now, 5 minutes ago, so I guess it was 1.2 and now is 1.3 |
| 00:42.41 | Mariele | hi |
| 00:42.45 | _rcs | . |
| 00:42.47 | _rcs | how do I linux rescue from a netinstall cd? |
| 00:42.53 | FieldySnuts | engrish? |
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| 00:44.03 | cesarbr | dondelelcaro: if you are interested, check http://bugs.winehq.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1512 its exactly what happens here |
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| 00:44.22 | FieldySnuts | @fuck wine |
| 00:44.37 | FieldySnuts | darn no vibrator |
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| 00:49.26 | digijohn | thanks, dondelelcaro, reinstalling login did the trick |
| 00:49.29 | dondelelcaro | cesarbr: yeah, so that version hasn't even been released into sarge yet. |
| 00:49.32 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: np |
| 00:49.32 | dpkg | rumour has it, np is "no problem", or "null pointer", or "no pants", or non-deterministically polynomial, or ¡ningún problema!, or "Now Playing", an abbreviation used by those lame mIRC/WinAmp plugins |
| 00:49.35 | dondelelcaro | digijohn: np |
| 00:50.41 | dondelelcaro | cesarbr: that's not necessarily the same thing. |
| 00:50.59 | cesarbr | dondelelcaro: http://kerneltraffic.org/wine/wn20000306_33.html says something about workarounding this bug by setting my LC_ALL=en ... to do that is "set LC_ALL=en"? |
| 00:51.08 | cesarbr | export maybe |
| 00:51.08 | dondelelcaro | cesarbr: especially as the version of wine you're running actually was built against the version of glibc that you're running. |
| 00:51.16 | cesarbr | hum |
| 00:51.18 | dondelelcaro | cesarbr: and no, that has nothing whatsoever to do with it either. |
| 00:51.31 | dondelelcaro | well, most likely doesn't. |
| 00:51.41 | Hydrogen | does anyone know why, if my firewall is configured to allow connections, no one but me can see my website? |
| 00:51.52 | cesarbr | tell me how do I change LC_ALL=en so we can discover so :) |
| 00:52.02 | TheStar | export LC_ALL=en |
| 00:52.05 | dondelelcaro | cesarbr: you don't need to change LC_ALL |
| 00:52.18 | dondelelcaro | cesarbr: what exactly is failing, anyway? |
| 00:52.28 | TheStar | cesarbr: Even if by some incredible fluke it makes it seem to fix it, other things will still be broken. |
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| 00:53.41 | cesarbr | dondelelcaro: wine crashes with segfault if it is set to load my real windows registry |
| 00:53.42 | FieldySnuts | badgers? |
| 00:53.58 | cesarbr | otherwise it works ok |
| 00:54.06 | dondelelcaro | cesarbr: but it doesn't crash if you're not loading your windows registry? |
| 00:54.15 | cesarbr | dondelelcaro: no |
| 00:54.24 | dondelelcaro | cesarbr: build wine with debugging support, get a coredump, analize it using gdb, and file a bug against wine. |
| 00:54.29 | TheStar | dondelelcaro: Man, that changes things! |
| 00:54.35 | budluva | how do i get my hostname to be budluva@budluva.com and not cg.shawcable.com |
| 00:54.59 | TheStar | cesarbr: And save your registry in case it is "fixed". |
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| 00:55.03 | citral | hrmf, is there another way to visualize a .pps file than to install openoffice? |
| 00:55.08 | FieldySnuts | get an isp that will give you 1) static ips 2) reverse dns delegation |
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| 00:55.13 | FieldySnuts | aka not shaw |
| 00:55.17 | cesarbr | hmn |
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| 00:55.34 | scarynetworkguy | Speakeasy does that. |
| 00:55.47 | TheStar | budluva: Or be nice to an irc-admin and get a clock. |
| 00:56.00 | TheStar | *cloak |
| 00:56.01 | Anthro | citral: apt-cache search powerpoint |
| 00:56.04 | cesarbr | build wine with debuggin support... ok I'll learn how to do that |
| 00:56.17 | TheStar | budluva: I think it's in freenode's website, afaik. Might need a "donation". |
| 00:56.22 | khert | how do i modify the definition of a "word" in bash so that doing an "ESC + backspace" doesn't stop at underscores? |
| 00:56.32 | budluva | oh ic |
| 00:56.39 | citral | Anthro: did that, but ppshtml didn't work. |
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| 00:57.13 | khert | anyone? |
| 00:57.22 | The_Vulture | ctrl-w might be what you really want.. |
| 00:57.24 | The_Vulture | maybe |
| 00:57.32 | The_Vulture | (that's for khert) |
| 00:57.38 | khert | well, i want to stop at forward slashes |
| 00:57.50 | khert | c-w takes out the word up to space |
| 00:58.06 | The_Vulture | *shrugs* |
| 00:58.16 | khert | hmmph |
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| 01:02.24 | _rcs | how do I rescue my debian install? my mbr is corrupt |
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| 01:02.50 | The_Vulture | _rcs: boot off your rescue disk.. (the first install CD can be used as a rescue disk) |
| 01:03.08 | _rcs | okay, so the net install won't work ? |
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| 01:03.14 | _rcs | cos I didn't download the entire package |
| 01:03.16 | The_Vulture | not sure, might do.. |
| 01:03.25 | _rcs | what command would you run ? |
| 01:03.25 | khert | use knoppix :) |
| 01:03.41 | _rcs | thats an idea |
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| 01:04.07 | khert | just installed for the first time last week, took 10 minutes |
| 01:04.24 | dvhart | I am trying to setup a zone in bind for my local home network. I don't have a domain, so how do I create the zone and associated files (ie ORIGIN and SOA lines?) |
| 01:04.46 | grandwazir | hi i managed to get debian to boot but i want to install the ati driver for my card but its a rpm. Is there an easy way to install rpms under debian? |
| 01:04.49 | FieldySnuts | with a text editor, and reading the DNS-howto may help a lot |
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| 01:05.05 | blah444 | yo |
| 01:05.14 | caphuso | dvhart: dns howto on tldp.org |
| 01:05.18 | dvhart | grandwazir, you can use alien (but if it isa kernel driver, it won't work anyway) |
| 01:05.30 | dvhart | caphuso, hadn't checked there yet... thanks for the ptr |
| 01:05.33 | blah444 | amazing |
| 01:05.36 | blah444 | bash irc hah |
| 01:05.54 | grandwazir | ok i'll give alien a try |
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| 01:09.48 | under | hi all |
| 01:10.58 | under | Someone here just work with openMosix? |
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| 01:14.46 | MepisBelle | Does anyone know of a utility that will automate building debs from tarballs? |
| 01:14.54 | tell | poll! what's your favourite window manager? |
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| 01:15.37 | rich_ | tell fvwm |
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| 01:15.51 | stew | !tell tell about polls |
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| 01:16.33 | grandwazir | sorry for the stupid question i only started using linux today but how do i get debian to install a deb file on the hard disk? |
| 01:16.42 | stew | grandwazir: dpkg -i |
| 01:16.50 | dave_n | grandwazir: dpkg -i *filename* |
| 01:17.00 | grandwazir | ah thank you |
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| 01:19.17 | elephantman | Hi all |
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| 01:19.25 | elephantman | How to uncompress tar.bz2 ? |
| 01:19.42 | caphuso | elephantman: /msg dpkg tar |
| 01:19.52 | Joint | elephantman: bzip2 -d tar.bz2 |
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| 01:20.38 | MustangMatt | Any perl freaks out there? I'm having a bit of a problem trying to install the Bundle::Bugzilla package. |
| 01:20.38 | MustangMatt | It's trying to use /bin/sh instead of /bin/bash but I can't figure out where it's getting /bin/sh from. |
| 01:20.38 | Ramsed | I'm running gnome2.8 (unstable/experimental), and keyboard-repeat doesn't work anymore (it's checked in the keyboard-capplet). In standard X, it works. Anyone know anything about it (and I know I run experimental, don't bitch about that) ? |
| 01:21.18 | caphuso | MustangMatt: and what's wrong with using /bin/sh? |
| 01:21.22 | stew | "getting"? |
| 01:21.58 | MustangMatt | caphuso... You're right, there's nothing wrong with it. hm... I wonder what's actually failing then. Let me reread the error. |
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| 01:22.40 | MustangMatt | Here's what I get: /bin/sh: line 1: cc: command not found |
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| 01:22.51 | caphuso | MustangMatt: apt-get install build-essential |
| 01:23.05 | Guerin | MustangMatt: you might find the output of ls -l /bin/sh revealing |
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| 01:23.17 | Guerin | !b-e MustangMatt |
| 01:23.18 | dpkg | MustangMatt: Sounds like you need to install build-essential. |
| 01:23.23 | MustangMatt | Thanks caphuso I think that's it. |
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| 01:24.13 | MustangMatt | Guerin... You know how I thought I deleted /etc the other night... Well AFTER I reinstalled everything and was restoring data I found it... I had moved it believe it or not. |
| 01:24.26 | Guerin | ... |
| 01:24.28 | MustangMatt | Which was good because there was a lot of useful information in there :) |
| 01:24.31 | exobyte_ | How can I do something like rsync where I manually specify how to handle discrepencies? I don't want to do anything if the checksum is the same |
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| 01:24.40 | Guerin | MustangMatt: the moral of this story is: Never work late. |
| 01:24.41 | caphuso | MustangMatt: well, that's propably a lesson you're not going to forget too soon :-) |
| 01:24.50 | MustangMatt | Guerin: Amen to that! |
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| 01:25.07 | Guerin | exobyte_: what do you mean? |
| 01:25.10 | MustangMatt | caphuso: I learned several lessons that night.. #1 being BACK MY @(#$&@ up! |
| 01:25.10 | exobyte_ | Guerin: heh |
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| 01:25.31 | tell | !guerin |
| 01:25.31 | dpkg | Piss off. |
| 01:25.42 | exobyte_ | Guerin: If a file exists on one system, but not the other, what should be done? Ask the user |
| 01:25.54 | Guerin | exobyte_: right, you want to ask the user. |
| 01:25.56 | Serialkiller | on debian site it sasy r3 was updated on oct 26 2004? what is this? |
| 01:26.18 | tell | !world |
| 01:26.19 | dpkg | [world] part of the delusion created around us by the matrix |
| 01:26.24 | exobyte_ | Guerin: well, rsync has rules to deal with that. Rules that I don't know |
| 01:26.33 | MustangMatt | Alright so here's another question I can't seem to figure out... I was going to use exim4 as a smarthost to send all outbound mail through our main mail server but I can't get the sucker to bring up the configuration builder. Shouldn't dpkg-reconfigure exim4 do the trick? |
| 01:26.43 | Guerin | exobyte_: do you want to ask the user for every file? |
| 01:26.46 | toresbe | Uh, wtf? The power and eject buttons on a ps2 are ANALOG...? |
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| 01:27.11 | exobyte_ | Guerin: yes. The local and remote systems are simlar. |
| 01:28.06 | Guerin | MustangMatt: exim4-config |
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| 01:28.48 | Guerin | exobyte_: a shell script calling cp -ai might be more useful in this case |
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| 01:29.21 | MustangMatt | apache:~# whereis exim4-config |
| 01:29.21 | MustangMatt | exim4-config: |
| 01:29.37 | mainiac | Is there a file somewhere where environment variables should be set for all logins? |
| 01:29.38 | Guerin | exobyte_: or something which collates all the user input and then acts on it in one go, rather than one file at a time |
| 01:29.59 | MustangMatt | Somehow I'm missing exim4-config. |
| 01:30.04 | Guerin | exobyte_: I don't know how to do it with just rsync, though, unless it has an "interactive" switch I can't see |
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| 01:30.24 | Guerin | MustangMatt: dpkg-reconfigure exim4-confi, I think |
| 01:30.33 | Guerin | s/onfi/onfig/ |
| 01:30.49 | MustangMatt | Ah that's it! Thanks |
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| 01:32.25 | grandwazir | could someone talk me through this page here http://www.watchland.org/dmcgraw/ati-debian.html i have followed the instructions up to install and build module |
| 01:32.26 | _rcs | can you rescue debian with a netinst cd? |
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| 01:32.42 | Guerin | _rcs: depends what you mean by "rescue" |
| 01:32.51 | grandwazir | not to sure what i have done wrong claims the directory does not exist although it didn't ask me to create it? |
| 01:32.59 | _rcs | i mean use it to boot off.. |
| 01:33.04 | _rcs | if your bootloader is gone |
| 01:33.22 | Guerin | _rcs: yeah, anything that gets you a shell, mount and chroot |
| 01:33.34 | Covener | Anyone have any feelings on k8t800 vs. nforce3 for sid? |
| 01:33.39 | _rcs | so what cmd, from the boot: do I run ? |
| 01:33.44 | _rcs | to get a shell |
| 01:33.56 | Guerin | _rcs: try "rescue" ? |
| 01:33.58 | jim | Guerin: does the netinst have, forexample, fdisk, fsck, mount, umount, editor? |
| 01:34.22 | _rcs | if you key in rescue, it just says can't find kernel image |
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| 01:34.36 | jim | _rcs: at boot: you can hit tab to see what images are available (assuming it's lilo) |
| 01:35.00 | Guerin | jim: I believe so. I know it has mount and chroot, and with that you can mount and use your root filesystem |
| 01:35.06 | abrotman | !punish wine |
| 01:35.19 | jim | does wine have balls? |
| 01:35.32 | Guerin | jim: some wine definitely has balls |
| 01:35.35 | abrotman | it made me a non-productive member of society |
| 01:35.46 | Guerin | abrotman: haha |
| 01:35.52 | Guerin | !wine abrotman |
| 01:35.58 | Guerin | mmm, riesling |
| 01:36.00 | abrotman | woohoo |
| 01:36.02 | jim | so I guess dosbox is about to do the same for me :) |
| 01:36.04 | fhffhqvb | Guerin: when winepresses go horribly bad |
| 01:36.06 | abrotman | TA .. i love that game |
| 01:36.15 | The_Vulture | TA is teh bestest :) |
| 01:36.17 | rich_ | I like sangria |
| 01:36.22 | abrotman | it sucks my life |
| 01:36.36 | The_Vulture | abrotman: ever finished Krogoth Encounter? |
| 01:36.40 | Guerin | yeah, sangria is good |
| 01:36.42 | The_Vulture | I haven't, should try harder.. |
| 01:37.01 | abrotman | The_Vulture: which pack? |
| 01:37.14 | The_Vulture | TA:Core Contingency |
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| 01:37.23 | abrotman | hmm .. i have that somewhere i thik |
| 01:37.26 | abrotman | i can't remember |
| 01:37.26 | exobyte_ | not to start a flame war, but I'm looking for an adsl (I want the adsl modem builtin) router made by linksys or netgear. First, linksys or netgear. Second, I want to hack traffic shaping into it. which would be better |
| 01:37.32 | abrotman | i don't think it's installed |
| 01:37.45 | The_Vulture | should be, makes for a great game |
| 01:37.46 | scarynetworkguy | exobyte_: Linksys is by far the most hackable. |
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| 01:37.49 | abrotman | exobyte: linux router |
| 01:37.50 | phant0m-z3r0 | get a linksys wrt54g it runs linux |
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| 01:38.06 | ludi | hello. suggestion on a really good "notepad" type program? I want something simple, fast, GUI-based. |
| 01:38.09 | abrotman | The_Vulture: up until this weekend .. the sound in wine didn't work right |
| 01:38.11 | phant0m-z3r0 | i have been hacking them and gettign them to run custom things for quite soome time |
| 01:38.16 | abrotman | ludi: gedit? |
| 01:38.16 | fhffhqvb | !irritate ludi |
| 01:38.16 | interalia | ludi: leafpad is supposed to be good. |
| 01:38.17 | dpkg | ludi: is there ne1 who cn answer my n00b q? how can I make my kanotix werkz kthx |
| 01:38.20 | _rcs | Guerin: rescue doesn't work |
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| 01:38.32 | spiekey_ | hello! |
| 01:38.36 | _rcs | is it possible that you need the full install of debian to use it? |
| 01:38.41 | abrotman | Guerin: take out the comments |
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| 01:39.04 | toresbe | Guerin: s/linefeed/semicolons, mostly/g |
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| 01:39.07 | Guerin | _rcs: hit f[123456] to get kernel boot options and instructions. They should tell you |
| 01:39.17 | exobyte_ | phant0m-z3r0: but.. I want adsl too |
| 01:39.19 | spiekey_ | i build a very small linux, but ifconfig semms to ask/use /sbin/modprobe, any idea why? the driver is built into the kernel |
| 01:39.27 | Guerin | no, I want to do it while still having nice comments and good formatting |
| 01:39.33 | MustangMatt | Can't exec "mysql_config": No such file or directory at Makefile.PL line 174. |
| 01:39.33 | MustangMatt | readline() on closed filehandle PIPE at Makefile.PL line 176. |
| 01:39.41 | abrotman | The_Vulture: i even have TA:K somewhere |
| 01:39.42 | _rcs | yeahm i've done that |
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| 01:40.26 | Guerin | I want to have all my variables assigned in case in statements, then only have one actual block of code which just consists of variables |
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| 01:40.49 | Guerin | instead of what I have now which is case in foo) do bar; baz etc. |
| 01:40.50 | The_Vulture | abrotman: I never got TA:K, do have Dungeon Siege though |
| 01:40.53 | jim | MustangMatt: mysql not installed? |
| 01:41.09 | MustangMatt | jim: It's installed and working properly. |
| 01:41.11 | abrotman | The_Vulture: TA:K is interesting .. not so much laser :) |
| 01:41.26 | jim | MustangMatt: mysql dev libraries not installed? |
| 01:41.31 | exobyte_ | Can the consumer routers handle traffic shaping? |
| 01:41.35 | MustangMatt | jim: Let me double check. |
| 01:41.39 | The_Vulture | LASERs are great :) |
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| 01:41.57 | jim | xxx-config not found is usually an indication of one of those |
| 01:41.59 | abrotman | The_Vulture: you can still buy TA:K at amazon |
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| 01:42.09 | Guerin | I need to figure out how to pass doublequotes in a variable, though... my normal quoting options aren't working |
| 01:42.26 | The_Vulture | yeah, I'll stick with the original, I've just got TA and TA:CC, don't have TA:BT or TA:K - suppose I could get them ust for completeness |
| 01:42.30 | jim | btw, you should try to run that and see what it does, to get an idea of why it's needed |
| 01:42.42 | abrotman | The_Vulture: they should really sell a complete box of all of the TA stuff |
| 01:42.58 | jim | what's a ta? |
| 01:43.01 | abrotman | !ta |
| 01:43.01 | dpkg | rumour has it, ta is an abbreviation for thomas_adam, or antipodean slang for "thank you". Total Annihilation(Best RTS *ever*) |
| 01:43.04 | jim | a thanksalot? |
| 01:43.08 | abrotman | the last part of that |
| 01:43.09 | The_Vulture | there was the TA:Commander Pack, which had TA, TA:CC, TA:BT and a strat guide (everything except TA:K really) |
| 01:43.15 | abrotman | yeah |
| 01:43.21 | abrotman | but TA:K has expansion too |
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| 01:43.31 | abrotman | the iron plague |
| 01:43.31 | samuel | hello all |
| 01:43.34 | jim | what's a rts? |
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| 01:43.41 | MustangMatt | jim: What's the mysql dev package name? I'm not seeing it actually. |
| 01:43.42 | samuel | anyone know of a good bittorrent client? |
| 01:43.49 | Silensius | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:43.53 | jim | something-dev |
| 01:44.00 | The_Vulture | jim: real time strategy |
| 01:44.01 | abrotman | !rts |
| 01:44.02 | dpkg | from memory, rts is Regional Transit System. Real Time Strategy |
| 01:44.05 | abrotman | last part |
| 01:44.14 | MustangMatt | libmysqlclient10-dev |
| 01:44.19 | MustangMatt | libmysqlclient-dev |
| 01:44.24 | jim | it's always the last part with dpkg! |
| 01:44.35 | The_Vulture | catch a lift on a hover transport vehicle.. |
| 01:44.41 | Silensius | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:44.48 | _rcs | i can get to a shell, with mount |
| 01:44.50 | Guerin | samuel: btlaunchanycurses, in the bittornado package |
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| 01:44.55 | jim | most Regional Transit Systems are indeed Truely Amorphous... |
| 01:45.00 | _rcs | but mount /dev/hda1 /mnt won't work |
| 01:45.01 | samuel | Guerin, thanks |
| 01:45.03 | abrotman | Silensius: they are characters in toy story |
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| 01:45.09 | _rcs | says can't find /mnt: no such file or dir |
| 01:45.18 | abrotman | !release history |
| 01:45.18 | dpkg | Debian releases have always been named after characters from the movie "Toy Story". Buzz(1.1; 1996-03-14), Rex(1.2; 1996-10-28), Bo(1.3; 1997-05-01), Hamm(2.0; 1998-07-24), Slink(2.1; 1999-08-28), Potato(2.2; 2001-04-17[?]), Woody(3.0; 2002-07-19). The next release will be Sarge. You can call Sarge+1 "Etch" for now. See also <http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparchives.html>. |
| 01:45.22 | Silensius | yes abrohaam but i never see the film |
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| 01:45.29 | abrotman | Silensius: so? |
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| 01:45.43 | jim | what was 0.96r4? |
| 01:45.46 | The_Vulture | Silensius: your question didn't make a lot of sense, perhaps you could rephrase |
| 01:45.55 | Silensius | where can i found in net the toy story film easely |
| 01:46.03 | abrotman | Silensius: imdb |
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| 01:46.14 | Silensius | imdb ? |
| 01:46.16 | jim | Silensius: pixar.com... and good luck :) |
| 01:46.18 | loswillios | hi |
| 01:46.22 | Silensius | thanks |
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| 01:46.39 | Silensius | Debian friends are very realy friends |
| 01:46.40 | jim | I want to take a tour of pixar... |
| 01:46.53 | abrotman | jim: how many kleenex would you need? |
| 01:47.06 | jim | at the moment, it's about 6 mi away |
| 01:47.10 | Silensius | none |
| 01:47.21 | jim | maybe 8 |
| 01:47.22 | loswillios | Where can I search for a mango.deb? (I tried Google already) |
| 01:47.26 | abrotman | jim: is it moving? |
| 01:47.31 | abrotman | loswillios: apt-get |
| 01:47.34 | abrotman | err apt-get.org |
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| 01:47.46 | jim | not sure, there was some rumbling about "let's keep pixar in emeryville" |
| 01:48.18 | jim | I was surprised; I found it by accident |
| 01:48.24 | fhffhqvb | !fruitsmite loswillios |
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| 01:48.42 | loswillios | abrotman: tried that too, of course ;) I want to install the cms "Mango" but couldn't find a .deb |
| 01:48.56 | abrotman | !find mango |
| 01:48.58 | Silensius | aaabroymaaaaan :::))) thanks |
| 01:49.04 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'mango' (1 shown): (/usr/share/tuxpaint/stamps/photo/food/fruit/{mango.png|mango.txt}) in graphics/tuxpaint-stamps-default. |
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| 01:49.24 | abrotman | !annoy Silensius |
| 01:49.25 | dpkg | Silensius: PLZ!!!!! ANSWER!!!! PLZ!!!!! |
| 01:49.30 | exobyte_ | in consumer land, how do "gateways" and "routers" differ? Which is just a nat box? |
| 01:49.48 | abrotman | loswillios: then i don't know |
| 01:49.51 | loswillios | you guys are a little bit crazy, aren't you ;) |
| 01:49.51 | abrotman | exobyte: they both can nat |
| 01:49.56 | loswillios | abrotman: thanks anyway |
| 01:50.03 | abrotman | loswillios: we blame the .au part of #debian |
| 01:50.09 | loswillios | hehe |
| 01:50.20 | jim | exobyte_: all gateways are routers, but not all routers are gateways |
| 01:50.39 | Silensius | how can i install bittorent |
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| 01:50.44 | exobyte_ | jim: what's the advantage of gateway then |
| 01:50.56 | abrotman | !gateway |
| 01:50.56 | dpkg | well, gateway is The computer or device onto which the first hop needs to go to get out of your network. As you know a TCP/IP route uses many hops to get from here to there. or the name of a computer company that is making a new amiga OS that nobody knows anything about. |
| 01:51.00 | daemonfan | are there any gotchas to consider while upgrading woody->stable? anything to consider that is not mentioned at debian.org? |
| 01:51.04 | abrotman | exobyte: they are different things |
| 01:51.10 | loswillios | Silensius: what about apt-get install bittorrent? |
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| 01:51.18 | abrotman | exobyte_: they are different things |
| 01:51.23 | zinx | daemonfan: there's a factoid on dpkg for that |
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| 01:51.33 | zinx | daemonfan: but i don't recall the name... something like "woody sarge" |
| 01:51.33 | Silensius | ok |
| 01:51.35 | jim | exobyte_: it is a gateway's function to act as a device on the "edge" of your local net "cloud" to connect your "cloud" to all the other "clouds: |
| 01:51.38 | abrotman | daemonfan: make sure you backup any DBs you have in a SQL format ... |
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| 01:51.48 | exobyte_ | abrotman: I need to set irssi to highlight exobyte. I left irc running in my dorm room |
| 01:51.54 | daemonfan | zinx: thanks, took a look |
| 01:52.07 | Silensius | ok thanks |
| 01:52.08 | abrotman | exobyte_: are we doing your homework? |
| 01:52.16 | daemonfan | abrotman: luckily it'll be an upgrade of a fresh woody (linode) to sarge |
| 01:52.18 | fhffhqvb | !do homework |
| 01:52.31 | abrotman | daemonfan: ah .. then why not use sarge installer? |
| 01:52.35 | jim | are you doing our homework??! |
| 01:52.54 | loswillios | !find mambo |
| 01:53.01 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'mambo' (2 shown): (/usr/share/gallery/contrib/mambo/classes/mambo.php) in web/gallery ;; (/var/lib/nessus/plugins/{mambo.nasl|mambo_code_injection.nasl|mambo_xss.nasl|...}) in admin/nessus-plugins. |
| 01:53.08 | jim | dpkg: that's because doing homework isn't much of a dream... |
| 01:53.09 | dpkg | jim: are you smoking crack? |
| 01:53.20 | jim | yeah, want some? |
| 01:53.46 | jrr | how might I add something to my gdm session list? |
| 01:54.10 | jim | look at all the files in /etc/X11/gdm/ |
| 01:54.58 | abrotman | you mean /etc/gdm/ ? |
| 01:55.40 | jim | gdm isn't in /etc/X11? it kinda logically belongs there... someone move it? |
| 01:55.49 | abrotman | crap . i've been blogged |
| 01:55.56 | Guerin | abrotman: do you pwn at bash scripting? |
| 01:56.01 | Guerin | haha |
| 01:56.02 | abrotman | jim: the conf files are in /etc/gdm |
| 01:56.07 | Guerin | !blogsmite abrotman |
| 01:56.09 | acohen | Does anyone know if there is a way to apt-get the latest ATI vid drivers, or is it a definite thing that I'll have to compile my own kernel module? |
| 01:56.28 | abrotman | Guerin: they want to make me a centerfold |
| 01:56.29 | exobyte_ | For some reason, the linksys adsl router seems to be mainly used in the uk. Will it work on US adsl? |
| 01:56.37 | abrotman | !ati debs |
| 01:56.37 | dpkg | hmm... ati debs is http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html |
| 01:56.48 | jim | acohen: are you using a kernel you compiled yourself? |
| 01:56.50 | loswillios | the ati-driver is really crappy :/ |
| 01:56.56 | rich_ | jim Your right, it used to be there, and should rightously still be there. If its been moved, it was wrong. |
| 01:57.08 | abrotman | exobyte_: ask whoever's dsl you're on now |
| 01:57.09 | acohen | I've been to that guide, and had immense difficulty. |
| 01:57.16 | daemonfan | abrotman: linodes.com only offers woody for now. so i have to install woody first, then upgrade to sarge |
| 01:57.17 | abrotman | rich_: you're |
| 01:57.19 | jrr | /etc/gdm/Sessions would appear to be where to stick new stuff for the gdm list, but it isn't working. |
| 01:57.19 | acohen | It's just the knoppix 2.6 kernel. |
| 01:57.36 | abrotman | jrr: you can ask #gnome on irc.gnome.org |
| 01:57.37 | jim | the xfree86.org people are recommending against use of packages... |
| 01:57.42 | abrotman | jrr: they would know more |
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| 01:57.50 | jrr | that's just it - i fear debian has moved it |
| 01:57.58 | exobyte_ | abrotman: damn sbc |
| 01:57.58 | abrotman | Guerin: my bash is ok |
| 01:58.09 | abrotman | exobyte_: most of them all work with DSL |
| 01:58.15 | jim | maybe that's because they don't want to answer questions if things have been changed or moved |
| 01:58.21 | Guerin | abrotman: ah, I figured it out |
| 01:58.23 | abrotman | jrr: then ask #gnome-debian on irc.gnome.org |
| 01:58.23 | jim | can't really blame them for that |
| 01:58.46 | acohen | My problems came when I tried the make-kpkg command. |
| 01:58.46 | jrr | k. |
| 01:59.15 | abrotman | acohen: see where you are .. it's #debian .. #knoppix is farther down the alphabet |
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| 01:59.31 | acohen | Hah, I have knoppix open in another tap. |
| 01:59.33 | acohen | Wrong window. |
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| 01:59.37 | rich_ | jim Ive notixed other things moved out of /etc/X11 in sarge. Maybe it has something to do with x.org |
| 01:59.45 | acohen | My mistake, apologies. |
| 01:59.50 | abrotman | rich_: we have no x.org in sarge |
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| 02:00.28 | jim | note: debian isn't knoppix... knoppix may be different from debian in significant ways, and probably people here don't want to have to learn the differences just to support the channel |
| 02:00.41 | findme | anybody using ndiswrapper modules ? |
| 02:00.55 | acohen | I'm aware that they differ, was just in the wrong room without realizing. |
| 02:01.05 | jim | oic |
| 02:01.17 | rik_ | anybody know a graphical way to see package relationships pls? dotty doesn't seem to work for me :( |
| 02:01.29 | rich_ | I dont even know woody anymore. Anything I could possibly say about knoppix would probably be off topic and more suited for ##linux |
| 02:01.29 | hewie | hey how can i unlink .bash_history from -> dev/null |
| 02:01.32 | abrotman | rik_: synaptic? |
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| 02:01.42 | abrotman | hewie: rm .bash_history |
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| 02:01.51 | hewie | that unlinks it ? |
| 02:01.59 | abrotman | it removes it |
| 02:02.04 | abrotman | and removes the link |
| 02:02.07 | nvz | heh, .bash_history -> /dev/null |
| 02:02.07 | jim | All I know is potato is what you run if you want to run oracle 8.1.7 :) |
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| 02:02.12 | hewie | so if someone linked it to dev/null does that mean the data is gone? |
| 02:02.18 | abrotman | nvz: it's a security feature :) |
| 02:02.23 | abrotman | hewie: yes |
| 02:02.26 | abrotman | !dev/null |
| 02:02.29 | nevyn | jim: and for anything later you get RHEL |
| 02:02.30 | abrotman | bah |
| 02:02.32 | rik_ | abrotman: thanks but i mean like a simple 3d wireframe or something |
| 02:02.39 | nvz | abrotman: I can see that you zoof |
| 02:02.41 | abrotman | rik_: not that i'm aware |
| 02:02.49 | hewie | so then just touch .bash_history to remake it? |
| 02:02.49 | abrotman | !/dev/null |
| 02:02.49 | dpkg | i guess /dev/null is a bit bucket, or where you should move your via boards to |
| 02:02.53 | exobyte_ | abrotman: thx. I have a little research to do. Any idea why finding a router with builtin adsl is hard in the US? |
| 02:02.54 | abrotman | heh |
| 02:03.01 | abrotman | exobyte_: we suck? |
| 02:03.08 | abrotman | hewie: that would work |
| 02:03.12 | abrotman | !null |
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| 02:03.12 | dpkg | null's not |
| 02:03.13 | rik_ | anyone used dotty successfully? |
| 02:03.17 | jim | nevyn: debian was never officially supported, but turned out to be more stable... but we knew that part :) |
| 02:03.23 | hewie | thx. |
| 02:03.29 | jim | rik_: sure |
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| 02:03.41 | puff | Evening. |
| 02:03.46 | abrotman | mtoups: pittsburgh? |
| 02:03.52 | puff | Pittsburgh? |
| 02:03.52 | mtoups | yep |
| 02:03.57 | rik_ | jim: when I try to load a file it just gets stuck in a loop |
| 02:03.59 | puff | What'd I miss? |
| 02:04.00 | abrotman | !prize me |
| 02:04.01 | jim | I think you can get stuff to feed to dot from apt-cache |
| 02:04.05 | dondelelcaro | rik_: I just use dot, not dotty. |
| 02:04.07 | mtoups | abrotman: recognize the domain? |
| 02:04.14 | rich_ | Arent the mailing lists official support? |
| 02:04.17 | abrotman | mtoups: two bros in pitt ... |
| 02:04.25 | puff | abrotman You're in Pittsburgh? |
| 02:04.30 | abrotman | puff: no .. philly |
| 02:04.33 | puff | Ah. |
| 02:04.34 | dondelelcaro | rich_: possibly |
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| 02:05.13 | bighead | umm, is there a usergroup on debian systems, so that users can access auto-mounted filesystems? (like I mounted my windows partition in /mnt/dos). Or do I have to create one? |
| 02:05.20 | sachac | Out of curiosity, why is rar-2.80 in main? The description says it's shareware that needs to be registered after 40 days of use. |
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| 02:05.26 | dondelelcaro | bighead: no, there isn't. |
| 02:05.30 | abrotman | !rar |
| 02:05.30 | dpkg | [rar] an archiver used mostly by 3l33+ war3z d00dz ;), or unrar to unrar things, or the worst file format ever, designed by morons FFS, use split and cat like a sane person!, or (better get parchive too, lest your pr0n be incomplete) |
| 02:05.34 | abrotman | err !unrar |
| 02:05.39 | abrotman | oh .. screw it |
| 02:05.47 | rich_ | dondelelcaro sure seems like it. they answer questions about official things, like legal matters and stuff. |
| 02:05.49 | bighead | dondelelcaro: ok, so how do I allow a normal user to mount partitions? and access them? |
| 02:05.59 | dondelelcaro | bighead: you create one, and then you need to set up fstab with uid, gid, umask, fmask, gmask, etc. |
| 02:06.00 | sachac | Oh, silly me. |
| 02:06.00 | jrr | rar isn't that bad. |
| 02:06.08 | abrotman | !unrar |
| 02:06.08 | dpkg | In unstable, unrar has been reimplemented as Free software (see <dfsg>). The new unrar package cannot read V3 RAR files. If you need that functionality, use the unrar-nonfree package, in the non-free section. |
| 02:06.09 | puff | Yay, so I'm finally getting somewhere with my debian install woes. |
| 02:06.15 | abrotman | you have woes? |
| 02:06.20 | sachac | That's what I get for having unofficial sources in my sources.list. |
| 02:06.20 | puff | I've been. |
| 02:06.22 | abrotman | of course you do . you live in pittsburgh :) |
| 02:06.26 | puff | Heh. |
| 02:06.32 | jim | sachac: did you hang out on #perl at one time? maybe #java? |
| 02:06.37 | sachac | Ignore me, it's someone else packaging and misfiling the thing. |
| 02:06.46 | sachac | jim: Yup. =) Hi. I vaguely remember your nick. |
| 02:06.51 | dondelelcaro | rich_: yeah, but there's no guarantee of support or anything. It just happens to be where support happens... kind of like #debian is. |
| 02:06.58 | abrotman | i bet jim is an uncommon nick |
| 02:07.00 | jim | so you moved to japan? |
| 02:07.00 | puff | To make a long story short, I learned that you simply cannot, ever, make a 200GB drive work with an asus p2b (circa 2001 bios) |
| 02:07.07 | sachac | apt-cache policy saved me from an embarrassing post. Yay. <laugh> |
| 02:07.09 | abrotman | puff: well .. that blows |
| 02:07.14 | puff | Despite much advice to the contrary from #debian :-). |
| 02:07.16 | puff | Ah well. |
| 02:07.26 | abrotman | puff: you'd need a bios update |
| 02:07.27 | sachac | jim: Yeah, here for IT and Japanese language training. =) |
| 02:07.27 | jim | abrotman: hrmph! I'm -jim-, not nick! |
| 02:07.29 | puff | The big problem was that the failure was not obvious |
| 02:07.31 | abrotman | if there is not .. you're screwed |
| 02:07.35 | puff | abrotman Rabbit stew. |
| 02:07.42 | abrotman | puff: yunz? |
| 02:07.42 | puff | First, catch a rabbit... |
| 02:07.45 | dondelelcaro | puff: pretty difficult for us to know the vagaries of random bioses... |
| 02:07.47 | rich_ | dondelelcaro One big difference is we are annonymous here. In the mailing lists you get answers from the actual debian maintainers. |
| 02:07.58 | puff | That's yinz. spell it right. goddamn. |
| 02:07.59 | dondelelcaro | rich_: not really... there are real live maintainers here too... |
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| 02:08.10 | bighead | can anyone recommend "options" for the fstab entry for a windows partition, so that any user can mount it, and access it? |
| 02:08.19 | puff | dondelelcaro That was not a criticism, just reporting. |
| 02:08.21 | abrotman | !dict yunz |
| 02:08.23 | dpkg | could not find definition for yunz |
| 02:08.26 | nvz | dondelelcaro: as opposed to ... ? *scratches head* |
| 02:08.27 | puff | yinz. |
| 02:08.28 | abrotman | !dict yinz |
| 02:08.30 | dpkg | could not find definition for yinz |
| 02:08.31 | rich_ | dondelelcaro but irc is anonymous. It makes a difference. |
| 02:08.32 | abrotman | see |
| 02:08.32 | sachac | bighead: man 5 fstab, look for umask |
| 02:08.34 | abrotman | neither exist |
| 02:08.35 | dondelelcaro | bighead: man mount, and read about umask, fmask, gmask, uid, and gid. |
| 02:08.46 | sachac | Err, man mount, I mean. Silly me. |
| 02:09.01 | Guerin | puff: I actually remember people telling you on many occasions that a drive that big would almost cetainly not work with a bios of that age. |
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| 02:09.05 | bighead | sachac, dondelelcaro: yah, I'm reading those right now |
| 02:09.20 | puff | Guerin You're probably remembering tht from last night. |
| 02:09.22 | bighead | btw, how do I search in man? |
| 02:09.27 | simonrvn | / |
| 02:09.29 | RichiH | oi dondelelcaro :) |
| 02:09.30 | abrotman | man -k term |
| 02:09.31 | jim | sachac: hi back. are you from s. kr? |
| 02:09.31 | puff | Or rather, saturday night. |
| 02:09.33 | Guerin | puff: no, I'm remembering it from last week. |
| 02:09.33 | abrotman | or .. man man |
| 02:09.39 | puff | Then you're remembering incorrectly. |
| 02:09.41 | simonrvn | man less |
| 02:09.51 | sachac | bighead: Depends on your viewer. You're probably using less. / works, then. I read manpages inside Emacs, so... |
| 02:09.55 | sachac | jim: .ph, actually. |
| 02:10.05 | evand | anyone have a good sources.list entry for wine? I had people.debian.org/~andreas/ but that seems to have stopped working, and I can't find any others on the web |
| 02:10.07 | puff | I went out on sunday, bought the smallest drive best buy had, which was 120GB. |
| 02:10.11 | nvz | saturday wa last wee |
| 02:10.11 | bighead | sachac: yes its less. Thanks |
| 02:10.17 | abrotman | evand: winehq.com makes dailys |
| 02:10.19 | dondelelcaro | RichiH: sup... |
| 02:10.29 | MustangMatt | jim: While trying to install Bundle::Bugzilla I think I used the wrong user/pass on the database test. Do you know off the top of your head how I get it to prompt me for that again? I'm not a perl person at all. |
| 02:10.35 | puff | I guess I should have driven around a bit and found an even smaller drive, because apparently 120GB has the same problem, more or less (slightly different failure behavior, wouldn't boot the CDROM at all). |
| 02:10.45 | evand | abrotman: complete with apt sources? |
| 02:10.54 | abrotman | evand: dunno .. ask #winehq |
| 02:10.58 | bighead | sachac: I can't find "umask" in fstab(5) :D |
| 02:11.02 | RichiH | dondelelcaro: tired as all hell, university project that is doomed because noone tells us what they expect us what to do and generally boring university stuff |
| 02:11.05 | simonrvn | dondelelcaro: we may just get a new "upstream" version for quik ;) |
| 02:11.10 | puff | Finally scrounged up some new hardware, and it's booting, so I'm happy. |
| 02:11.11 | dondelelcaro | rich_: people who are +e aren't really very anonymous... esp. when you can match them to db.debian.org |
| 02:11.12 | fhffhqvb | !rot13 nvz |
| 02:11.12 | dpkg | aim |
| 02:11.13 | evand | abrotman: ok, thanks |
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| 02:11.14 | bighead | I'll look in "man mount" till then |
| 02:11.15 | fhffhqvb | :-| |
| 02:11.17 | sachac | bighead: Yes, yes, it's in mount. How embarrassing, yes. ^_^ |
| 02:11.20 | abrotman | evand: or they used to . i don't see them now |
| 02:11.24 | dondelelcaro | simonrvn: nice |
| 02:11.25 | rich_ | puff you need to boot the cd that bad? No floppy? |
| 02:11.37 | dondelelcaro | RichiH: heh. that sucks... |
| 02:11.37 | puff | rich_ It wasn't booting the floppy either. |
| 02:11.42 | jim | MustangMatt: I know perl... but I dunno how to make it query for that... however you can perldoc <fullyQualifiedModuleName> |
| 02:11.45 | hewie | where are the shadow/password files kept |
| 02:11.45 | dondelelcaro | nvz: I'm lost. |
| 02:11.52 | simonrvn | dondelelcaro: considering quik is almost a debian native package... ;) |
| 02:12.04 | abrotman | hewie: /etc .. like every unix |
| 02:12.05 | puff | In any event, it wasn't that it wasn't booting the CD, but that it wasn't booting *anything*, CD, floppy, hard drive. |
| 02:12.07 | nvz | dondelelcaro: "real live maintainers" we have in here.. what other kind of maintainers do we have? |
| 02:12.10 | jim | hewie: somewhaere in /! |
| 02:12.11 | hewie | thx |
| 02:12.12 | puff | Because the bios was having a psychotic break. |
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| 02:12.28 | RichiH | dondelelcaro: yah. but what can you do? |
| 02:12.30 | MustangMatt | jim: Thanks I'll give it a try. |
| 02:12.46 | rich_ | dondelelcaro Oh. I thought a few years ago that people made their nick name the same as their package name, but almost no one still does that. |
| 02:12.49 | puff | Rich: are you a student? |
| 02:12.54 | bighead | do I need to specify the "Dump" option for a vfat partition? |
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| 02:12.59 | dondelelcaro | nvz: oh... we've managed to decapitate a few maintainers and feed their digested brains into a super-cooled super-computer... they're still with us, but virtually |
| 02:13.16 | rich_ | puff No, but Ive been one in the past. |
| 02:13.25 | puff | Because if you are, rejoice, becuase a project that's "doomed because noone tells us what they expect us what to do" is perfect training for the job market. |
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| 02:13.31 | jim | how ironic that these days computers are supercool... |
| 02:13.33 | nvz | dondelelcaro: another fine step towards world domination |
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| 02:13.44 | simonrvn | rich_: considering that several maintainers maintain several packages, that's a bit difficult |
| 02:13.49 | bighead | sachac, dondelelcaro: but that doesn't help my regular user acces the partition. Do the groups thing? |
| 02:13.51 | RainbowW | is there a way to get nfs-kernel-server to export an entire directory tree, even if it crosses across mounts? eg, /storage is composed of five directories, each directory is actually a separate volume; is there a way to export these as a single nfs export? |
| 02:13.56 | puff | Er, that was for RichiH. |
| 02:14.09 | rich_ | simonrvn some people use more than one nick too. |
| 02:14.11 | dondelelcaro | nvz: yes... another step towards total control by the group that shall not be named. |
| 02:14.32 | dondelelcaro | bighead: sure it will. If you set the umask appropriately, your regular user will be able to access the partition. |
| 02:14.35 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: is that where eeyore- went? |
| 02:14.50 | simonrvn | rich_: that's true too |
| 02:15.00 | RichiH | puff: ? |
| 02:15.04 | nvz | -long |
| 02:15.07 | nvz | time |
| 02:15.07 | jim | you mean the cable? |
| 02:15.18 | abrotman | !seen eeyore- |
| 02:15.19 | dpkg | eeyore- <~faxmodem@ip68-5-225-32.oc.oc.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 28d 19h 31m 13s ago, saying: 'xam: 2.6 is nice. 2.8 is supposed to be more functional. but, even in 2.6 you can browse windows network (SMB) and unix networks (NFS)'. |
| 02:15.31 | Guerin | abrotman: how would you quote this variable: SHNARGS=-x "$1" - # I need to retain the " " around the $1 and $1 needs to remain a variable |
| 02:15.51 | Guerin | and the spaces are non-optional, unfortunately. |
| 02:15.57 | abrotman | Guerin: use another set of quotes? .. like ' or ` ? |
| 02:16.06 | abrotman | i remember seeing that .. |
| 02:16.09 | abrotman | hmmm |
| 02:16.15 | jim | SHNARGS='-x "$1"' |
| 02:16.16 | bighead | dondelelcaro: ok, little more "spoon feeding" plz :-/. Where can I get more info on umask |
| 02:16.24 | abrotman | i was close |
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| 02:16.43 | Guerin | abrotman: yeah, '-x '"$1"' -' works, but not for $1 with spaces |
| 02:16.44 | dondelelcaro | bighead: info coreutils 'File Permissions'; or help umask; basically it's the bits that aren't set on the file permisions. |
| 02:16.54 | jim | no, that won't do it |
| 02:16.58 | Guerin | jim: the $1 gets interpreted literally, that way, not as a variable |
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| 02:17.11 | jim | oh, right... then you should do |
| 02:17.11 | dondelelcaro | !umask |
| 02:17.11 | dpkg | rumour has it, umask is 'man 2 umask' |
| 02:17.29 | hewie | if i want to only be able to ssh to my box from certain IP's what would i do? |
| 02:17.30 | jim | SHNARGS="-x \"$1\"" |
| 02:17.55 | jim | is there a - in there at the end too? |
| 02:17.58 | abrotman | hewie: hosts.deny? iptables ? |
| 02:18.01 | jim | SHNARGS="-x \"$1\" -" ? |
| 02:18.01 | TheStar | hewie: Firewall, perhaps. |
| 02:18.27 | TheStar | hewie: But I would just leave it open - and only allow password-less entry (using ssh-keys) |
| 02:18.43 | hewie | o? ssh-keys? |
| 02:18.47 | TheStar | Yeah |
| 02:18.51 | hewie | hmm how? |
| 02:18.51 | Guerin | jim: still drops the space in a file |
| 02:18.59 | TheStar | Well, probably not exactly "ssh-keys", but... |
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| 02:19.24 | TheStar | hewie: I have to go, if your lucky someone well help you understand the system, but there are a few howtos online. |
| 02:19.34 | hewie | thx Star |
| 02:19.37 | yanger | uh oh, is there a way to fix the timestamps on all the startup files? |
| 02:19.45 | jim | Guerin: then I dunno what to do... |
| 02:19.55 | jim | I'd have to read up or something :)\ |
| 02:19.56 | hewie | anyone seen netgod? |
| 02:20.01 | yanger | i'm getting "warning: date is xxxxxxxxs in the future" |
| 02:20.11 | nvz | yanger: man touch |
| 02:20.27 | Guerin | yeah, the folks in #bash couldn't figure it out either |
| 02:20.28 | jim | last time I saw netgod was at a debian dinner function |
| 02:20.32 | nvz | yanger: or just set your clock, which is probably back in the past |
| 02:20.39 | hewie | aka Johnie? |
| 02:20.48 | hewie | what happen to linpeople.org? |
| 02:20.48 | jim | that's him |
| 02:21.01 | abrotman | !seen netgod |
| 02:21.01 | dpkg | netgod <johnie@206.117.128.072.labridge.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 110d 6h 19m 23s ago, saying: 'Dabian: (if i can use such terms in this sexually-charged channel)'. |
| 02:21.11 | jim | it became openprojects.net |
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| 02:21.21 | hewie | o nice. |
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| 02:21.26 | jim | which is also gone |
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| 02:21.31 | hewie | omg 110 days ago? |
| 02:21.45 | abrotman | yes |
| 02:21.49 | hewie | whats up with that? |
| 02:22.05 | jim | hmm, almost 4 months ago |
| 02:22.11 | hewie | how do i find him? |
| 02:22.13 | hewie | any ideas? |
| 02:22.34 | bighead | dondelelcaro: ok so what should the umask be? I tried putting "rw,exec,users,noauto" (I know I didn't really do anything with the umask, I coudln't figure it out :-/), didn't work :-/ |
| 02:22.46 | jim | mail to his debian.org addr |
| 02:22.49 | dondelelcaro | bighead: probably something like umask=0003 |
| 02:23.03 | hewie | netgod@ i assume? |
| 02:23.17 | Guerin | ah well, these args are going to have to remain hard-coded |
| 02:23.24 | jim | I think you can query db.debian.org |
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| 02:23.45 | fhffhqvb | debian.ru queries you |
| 02:23.52 | bighead | dondelelcaro: I tried it. remounted, I can't "dir /mnt/dos" from a regular user. Permission dennied :-/ |
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| 02:24.05 | stew | debian.ru rot13's you? |
| 02:24.12 | jim | twice! |
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| 02:25.13 | bighead | oh wait, permission on the /mnt/dos dir are wrong! |
| 02:25.27 | puff | Hm, Okay, it's booting from the netinstall debian CD, but it's taking me right to the login prompt, not to an installer. |
| 02:25.40 | dondelelcaro | bighead: that doesn't matter. |
| 02:25.51 | dondelelcaro | bighead: what does mount; output? what does ls -ld /mnt/dos output? |
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| 02:26.00 | puff | When last we saw this drive, I'd just done the base install... I don't recall giving it a root password. |
| 02:26.00 | hewie | !seen netgod |
| 02:26.00 | dpkg | netgod <johnie@206.117.128.072.labridge.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 110d 6h 24m 21s ago, saying: 'Dabian: (if i can use such terms in this sexually-charged channel)'. |
| 02:26.08 | spilo | hello everybody |
| 02:26.21 | bighead | dondelelcaro: here my line from the fstab |
| 02:26.27 | MepisBelle | I'm trying to build a deb file using debmake ... the instructions says to issue the command 'build' - but I get "Command not found" returned. Anyone know what the problem is? |
| 02:26.28 | bighead | /dev/hda8/mnt/dosvfatrw,exec,users,noauto,umask=000302 |
| 02:26.30 | findme | how do i load modules, i want ivtv to be loaded at boot time ? |
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| 02:26.34 | spilo | guys.. what is the best Debian email client? (so that I can check hotmail messages too).. |
| 02:26.34 | bighead | and mount mounts it ok |
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| 02:27.01 | im_ka | hi |
| 02:27.12 | puff | spilot mutt :-) |
| 02:27.15 | RainbowW | does sid's nfs client not understand the nohide option? |
| 02:27.17 | hewie | !seen hewie |
| 02:27.17 | dpkg | hewie is currently on #debian (27m 6s). Has said a total of 22 messages. Is idling for 0s |
| 02:27.21 | bighead | dondelelcaro: ? |
| 02:27.33 | puff | Is there a thunderbird for linux? There must be. |
| 02:27.40 | bighead | puff: yes there is |
| 02:27.42 | abrotman | !info mozilla-thunderbird |
| 02:27.43 | spilo | what is the email client most of you use guys? |
| 02:27.47 | dpkg | mozilla-thunderbird: (Mozilla Thunderbird standalone mail client), section mail, is optional. Version: 0.9-5 (sid), Packaged size: 11276 kB, Installed size: 32912 kB |
| 02:27.50 | Guerin | !tell puff about search |
| 02:27.58 | Silensius | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:28.01 | im_ka | is there a planned release cycle? i'm considering keeping sarge after it moves stable, but i wanna know what to expect |
| 02:28.02 | dondelelcaro | bighead: what does mount; for that line? |
| 02:28.02 | rich_ | spilo I use xfmail |
| 02:28.13 | findme | spilo, if you want basic go with mutt, if you want state of the art use Ximian evolution :-) |
| 02:28.19 | im_ka | is it gonna be 2,5 years again? |
| 02:28.22 | holycow | evolution 2 is kinda nifty but i hate the fact its one huge blob of applications |
| 02:28.29 | Guerin | im_ka: after sarge releases, etch will be the new testing. |
| 02:28.31 | bighead | dondelelcaro: "mount" mounts the fs ok. From root and regular user. but I can't do "dir /mnt/dos" as a regular user |
| 02:28.32 | rik_ | jim: could you give me an example of how to use dot please? |
| 02:28.39 | spilo | does ximian evolution retreive hotmail messages? |
| 02:28.41 | holycow | it needs to be split up into 3 or 4 eapps, perhaps with an optional unified gui if people want that |
| 02:28.48 | holycow | spilo, wrong question |
| 02:28.50 | dondelelcaro | bighead: yeah, just run mount; and it'll output how it actually mounted the device. |
| 02:28.54 | holycow | does hotmail offer imap or pop mail |
| 02:28.56 | abrotman | spilo: better question .. how can you retreieve hotmail |
| 02:28.57 | holycow | if yes then yes |
| 02:28.59 | holycow | if no than no |
| 02:29.00 | rich_ | spilo exolution is nice, Id use it if it exited cleanly. It leaves some daemon in the background. |
| 02:29.12 | bighead | /dev/hda8 on /mnt/dos type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,umask=0003) |
| 02:29.13 | rich_ | spilo I mean evolution |
| 02:29.18 | spilo | yea.. |
| 02:29.19 | Guerin | rich_: solution: never close it :) |
| 02:29.23 | holycow | exolution? |
| 02:29.24 | holycow | hahahah! |
| 02:29.26 | dondelelcaro | bighead: FE /dev/hda10 on /mnt/DOS_hda10 type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,conv=auto,uid=1000,gid=1002,umask=003) |
| 02:29.34 | spilo | so.. how can I retreive hotmail with ximian evolution? |
| 02:29.36 | dondelelcaro | bighead: hrm... it may need to be umask=003 |
| 02:29.42 | im_ka | Guerin yes but is there a planned release cycle. will i have to wait for 2,5 years for the next stable release. it's not necessarily bad, i just wanna know |
| 02:29.43 | Guerin | spilo: ask hotmail |
| 02:29.46 | rich_ | Its not a bug, its brain damage |
| 02:29.47 | abrotman | spilo: setup an account for pop3 or imap |
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| 02:29.53 | abrotman | or .. pop3s or imaps |
| 02:29.54 | rich_ | display manager brain damage |
| 02:29.56 | RainbowW | spilo: why wouldn't you want to get yourself a real account? |
| 02:30.05 | abrotman | yeah .. like yahoo! |
| 02:30.06 | Guerin | im_ka: in principle, releases are supposed to occur more frequently. |
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| 02:30.09 | Silensius | hi how we can upload hotmail mail |
| 02:30.09 | nvz | can anyone refresh my memory on where the file is to set my default gtk font settings or where the docs are located? |
| 02:30.16 | im_ka | Guerin thanks |
| 02:30.22 | useruser | Silensius: gotmail |
| 02:30.26 | spilo | I have several.. but hotmail one I have had for long time.. + I use it for msn.. |
| 02:30.29 | Silensius | gotmail |
| 02:30.29 | im_ka | i'll most probably keep sarge |
| 02:30.32 | Guerin | nvz: .gtkrc |
| 02:30.37 | bighead | dondelelcaro: w00t, it worked. thanks! |
| 02:30.38 | nvz | ahh ty |
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| 02:30.42 | Silensius | apt-get install gotmail |
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| 02:30.50 | _rcs | anyone used squidguard ? |
| 02:30.54 | Guerin | !anyone use |
| 02:30.54 | dpkg | No, no one uses it, not even the people who use it. |
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| 02:31.09 | MepisBelle | I'm trying to build a deb file using debmake ... the instructions says to issue the command 'build' - but I get "Command not found" returned. Anyone know what the problem is? |
| 02:31.10 | spilo | evolutoon did it without problem in Redhat9.. |
| 02:31.27 | spilo | here in Debian it asks me for pop3.. only option.. no http.. |
| 02:31.39 | nvz | spilo: look at the hotway package |
| 02:31.42 | vpalle | hmm.. nautilus suddenly stopped working.. nothing happens when i try to execute nautilus from a xterm |
| 02:31.47 | _rcs | dpkg-buildpackage |
| 02:31.48 | dondelelcaro | bighead: yeah, you'll probably want to modify that slightly, so your user can actually write to the device... |
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| 02:32.11 | nvz | spilo: its a gateway to hotmail that will let you use any normal mail client the way it works with Microsoft Outlook |
| 02:32.11 | bighead | dondelelcaro: yeah, but I think read-only is alright for now |
| 02:32.36 | nvz | spilo: works pretty good for my uncle on his laptop |
| 02:32.51 | nvz | spilo: there is also fetchyahoo for yahoomail |
| 02:33.12 | spilo | how would I set it up for use on evolution on Debian.. do you know? |
| 02:33.33 | nvz | spilo: install hotway and then read the docs |
| 02:33.56 | spilo | thank you nvz |
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| 02:38.24 | headly | is there a site that will let me look up the version of software in a debian release? |
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| 02:39.40 | Compound-4 | so ich gehe mal in bett |
| 02:39.51 | Compound-4 | n8i all |
| 02:39.52 | waxmop | hi -- what pkg has all the xlsfonts like adobe-courier-*.... bleah? |
| 02:39.53 | JVaughn | headly - dpkg -l |
| 02:40.12 | headly | I was looking for info on ones not in my release. |
| 02:40.14 | JVaughn | headly - packages.debian.org |
| 02:40.19 | headly | packages.debian.org is what I was looking for |
| 02:40.22 | headly | thanks :) |
| 02:40.39 | kensai | Is so entartaining speaking with dpkg, I love this bot |
| 02:40.39 | JVaughn | :P |
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| 02:42.32 | abrotman | !moo |
| 02:42.33 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! Type apt-get moo. |
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| 02:42.46 | hadleyri | question: is there a recommended limit to how big root can be? |
| 02:42.52 | jorgp | what is a good cd burning app that works w/ kernel 2.6.9+? k3b does not seem to work |
| 02:42.53 | albo | how to find what dhcp server i use |
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| 02:43.01 | kensai | dpkg: LOL |
| 02:43.02 | dpkg | lol is, like, Lamer on Line. Congratulations, you've confirmed yourself as one! |
| 02:43.07 | fhffhqvb | !irritate albo |
| 02:43.08 | dpkg | albo: HELP ME!!! how does I run teh mouse lol |
| 02:43.08 | kensai | haha |
| 02:43.19 | albo | oh , /var/run/dhclient.ethX.leases |
| 02:43.27 | streuner | !fix abrotman |
| 02:43.46 | fhffhqvb | !rot13 streuner |
| 02:43.46 | dpkg | fgerhare |
| 02:43.49 | kensai | dpkg: I love you |
| 02:43.50 | dpkg | I hope you mean in the platonic sense :/ |
| 02:43.53 | fhffhqvb | a-ha. |
| 02:44.00 | fhffhqvb | streuner is really a bunny |
| 02:44.02 | stew | fhffhqvb: onqtre, zhfuebbz, fanxr? |
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| 02:44.27 | fhffhqvb | !eat stew |
| 02:44.32 | streuner | shut sussudio |
| 02:44.38 | streuner | up* |
| 02:44.40 | kensai | ask about sex to dpkg and you'll be amazed |
| 02:44.45 | abrotman | streuner: and? |
| 02:44.59 | albo | dpkg: sex? |
| 02:45.00 | dpkg | something you'll never get, geek. |
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| 02:45.02 | abrotman | !sex |
| 02:45.02 | dpkg | something you'll never get, geek. |
| 02:45.04 | fhffhqvb | streuner: rot13 proves it. you're a fger-hare |
| 02:45.07 | abrotman | they broke it |
| 02:45.09 | abrotman | ~sex |
| 02:45.10 | apt | [sex] updatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; apt-get install condom; mount; fsck; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; apt-get remove --purge condom; make clean; sleep |
| 02:45.10 | kensai | LOL |
| 02:45.16 | jorgp | what gui cd burning app is everyone using? I can not get k3b 0.11.17-1 to work with kernel 2.6.9+ |
| 02:46.12 | abrotman | i like eroaster |
| 02:46.18 | abrotman | though .. arson looks neat for kde |
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| 02:46.58 | fhffhqvb | !rot13 abrotman |
| 02:46.58 | dpkg | noebgzna |
| 02:46.58 | nvz | that ses factiod is all messed up.. you have to unzip before you finger I would think, and what the hell does 'cd' have to do with anything? |
| 02:47.03 | fhffhqvb | noooeb |
| 02:47.06 | nvz | s/ses/sex/ |
| 02:47.30 | Guerin | nvz: cd /your/place or /mine |
| 02:47.31 | abrotman | nvz: if you 'cd' .. it goes home |
| 02:47.34 | rich_ | nvz doesnt work if your not in the right directory? |
| 02:47.44 | fhffhqvb | !hex nvz |
| 02:47.44 | dpkg | nvz is 6E 76 7A |
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| 02:48.27 | nvz | !say fhffhqvb: WNBT! |
| 02:48.28 | dpkg | fhffhqvb: WNBT! |
| 02:49.06 | Silensius | gotmail how does it work |
| 02:49.14 | hewie | im going from public ip to private ip how do i use dhcp assigned ip address? |
| 02:49.20 | zakame | abrotman: heh. |
| 02:49.22 | nvz | !rot13 fhffhqvb |
| 02:49.22 | dpkg | sussudio |
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| 02:51.48 | d22 | is there a way to speed up file deletion? milions of files :/ |
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| 02:52.06 | puff | Hm, okay, so now the machine is booting, but it's going right to the login prompt. There's the user account I created while installing, but I don't remember telling it a root password. |
| 02:52.24 | puff | Probably I did. Is there any way to reset it with the install disk? |
| 02:52.29 | abrotman | d22: surf less porn? |
| 02:52.41 | rd_syringe | never! |
| 02:52.46 | Guerin | puff: boot with init=/bin/sh on your kernel arg line |
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| 02:52.58 | jonesy | Silensius: gotmail parses the html pages from the hotmail site to get the emails and then delivers email locally |
| 02:53.08 | Guerin | puff: that logs you in as root; then you can do passwd |
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| 02:53.27 | puff | Guerin Er, it didn't give me a boot prompt or anything when booting with the CDROM in the drive. |
| 02:53.46 | puff | Maybe I should tweak the boot sequence in BIOS. |
| 02:53.51 | Guerin | puff: no bootloader? |
| 02:53.54 | Guerin | yeah |
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| 02:54.37 | fusion\a | hm I have to do a netinstall again..is there a way to save me downloading 500mb again? is all that data stored somewhere? I have all of /var/cache/apt but theres only 20-odd MB in there... |
| 02:55.10 | Guerin | fusion\a: why are you having to do a netinst again? |
| 02:55.11 | mina_linux_Tux | hello people .. i'm runing debian 3.0r3 and i tried to mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb and kernel does not recognize /dev/sda1 as a block device is it something related to the kernel version must i upgrade it .. and how to load module in kernel or know the kernel version |
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| 02:55.12 | jim | fusion\a: you mean the packages? |
| 02:55.37 | fusion\a | Guerin, because I cant quite get something right and this person told me i should just start clean |
| 02:55.45 | Guerin | the packages will be in /var/cache/apt/archives ; if not there, you'lll need to download them again |
| 02:55.55 | abrotman | or download CD1 |
| 02:55.56 | fusion\a | jim, Yeah.. I think... when the installer ran and rebooted it wanted to dl 500 mb of stuff |
| 02:55.56 | Guerin | fusion\a: can't get what right? |
| 02:55.58 | abrotman | or DVD1 |
| 02:56.09 | fusion\a | oh archives |
| 02:56.18 | jonesy | mina_linux_Tux: you don't have the right usb drivers in the kernel to mount a usb mass storage device. |
| 02:56.20 | fusion\a | Guerin, a software package doesnt create homedirs and stuff |
| 02:56.30 | Guerin | fusion\a: adduser? |
| 02:56.37 | mina_linux_Tux | jonesy: so what must i have to do |
| 02:56.40 | fusion\a | Guerin, via a software script |
| 02:56.41 | fusion\a | web based |
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| 02:56.47 | fusion\a | it adds the passwd stuff fine |
| 02:56.53 | fusion\a | just doesnt make homedirs |
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| 02:56.56 | fusion\a | and refuseslogin |
| 02:57.00 | Guerin | fusion\a: gah, fix the damn script, don;t reinstall the system |
| 02:57.00 | fusion\a | but i'd rather just start clean |
| 02:57.09 | Guerin | whatever, you have your answer |
| 02:57.09 | fusion\a | i only installed it last night heh |
| 02:57.24 | Guerin | fusion\a: what's starting from an identical system going to fix? |
| 02:57.29 | mina_linux_Tux | anyone answer me please |
| 02:57.31 | jim | so... you need to add users from some web thing? |
| 02:57.34 | fusion\a | *shrug* |
| 02:57.46 | fusion\a | Going to try that before pissing around with fiddley little scripts :P |
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| 02:58.39 | Guerin | fusion\a: you didn't answer my question. IUf you reinstall the same software, all set up the same, why should it change? |
| 02:58.45 | mina_linux_Tux | hello people .. i'm runing debian 3.0r3 and i tried to mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb and kernel does not recognize /dev/sda1 as a block device is it something related to the kernel version must i upgrade it .. and how to load module in kernel or know the kernel version |
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| 02:58.53 | fusion\a | well I'm not going to isntall the same software |
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| 02:59.02 | zignig | is there a imap server that people would reccomend for really big mail boxes ? |
| 02:59.07 | streuner | mina_linux_Tux: sda=SCSI |
| 02:59.08 | kensai | The Nvidia driver says the kernel loads the driver riva how do I make this driver not to load? |
| 02:59.10 | jonesy | mina_linux_Tux: look in /var/log/messages to see if the usb device was even picked up. |
| 02:59.11 | initech | mina_linux_Tux: because there isn't filesystem on /dev/sda1 |
| 02:59.15 | Fackamato | mina_linux_Tux type uname -ar |
| 02:59.27 | initech | mina_linux_Tux: try cfdisk /dev/sda1 to see what's on there |
| 02:59.34 | simonrvn | what's the point of -ar ? -a is all of it |
| 02:59.38 | Fackamato | streuner o rS-ATA |
| 02:59.43 | Fackamato | simonrvn a habit |
| 02:59.46 | jonesy | mina_linux_Tux: you will need to comile in scsi emulation as well. |
| 02:59.48 | Fackamato | :-) |
| 02:59.59 | simonrvn | might be useful on other sytems though |
| 03:00.03 | simonrvn | sys* |
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| 03:00.03 | Fackamato | or just apt-get the latest kernel |
| 03:00.05 | mina_linux_Tux | jonesy: what do u mean |
| 03:00.27 | mina_linux_Tux | jonesy: by comile in scsi emulation |
| 03:00.34 | initech | mina_linux_Tux: if fdisk does not see the device you don't have the proper modules loaded (sg, usb_storage, prob others) |
| 03:00.46 | guestish | hello fellow members of the abyss |
| 03:00.59 | jim | btw, just so you know, scsi emu is not needed in later 2.6 kernels |
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| 03:01.07 | jonesy | mina_linux_Tux: you will probably need to recompile your kernel and compile in support for scsi emulation. have you ever recompiled the kernel? |
| 03:01.18 | mina_linux_Tux | initech: how to load the proper module |
| 03:01.25 | AngelGabriel | i'm having problems creating NFS exports using webmin .... it just seems like it's unavalible. |
| 03:01.26 | Fackamato | jonesy he's using debian, why can't he just apt-get a kernel? |
| 03:01.27 | jonesy | jim: i didn't realise that. thanks. |
| 03:01.30 | MustangMatt | In .htaccess is AuthType Basic usually what should be used? |
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| 03:01.46 | mina_linux_Tux | jonesy: i tried but it's going weel |
| 03:01.46 | initech | mina_linux_Tux: "modprobe sg" and "modprobe usb_storage" for starters |
| 03:01.48 | Guerin | MustangMatt: .htaccess should typically not be used |
| 03:01.55 | initech | mina_linux_Tux: or use mondconf |
| 03:01.58 | jim | jonesy: but if you go that route, you need an uptodate cdrecord |
| 03:02.05 | diomedes | any one ever have trouble with squirrelmail killing attachments? ie if i get sent a pdf it tells me it's broken but i can fwd it to another account not using squirrelmail and they can open it fine |
| 03:02.07 | MustangMatt | Gurein: What's a superior way to protect a directory? |
| 03:02.19 | nvz | heh |
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| 03:02.24 | guestish_ | hum... |
| 03:02.26 | Guerin | MustangMatt: put it in your httpd.conf, in the <Directory> directive |
| 03:02.46 | Silensius | ok thanks ; jonesy |
| 03:02.46 | Guerin | MustangMatt: or use a separate file and source it into the httpd.conf |
| 03:02.56 | rich_ | thanks everyone, bbl |
| 03:02.56 | mina_linux_Tux | initech: cfdisk caused a fatal ERROR can't open drive |
| 03:03.12 | initech | mina_linux_Tux: you have no sda device - load the modules |
| 03:03.16 | jonesy | Fackamato: he might be able to, but he will need to make sure it contains everything he needs. |
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| 03:03.42 | Fackamato | jonesy it probably does |
| 03:03.47 | spilo | does anyone know how to show different accounts in dofferent folders in evolution? |
| 03:03.48 | jim | why are you using sda? |
| 03:03.49 | Fackamato | usb stuff etc is nothing special |
| 03:03.53 | Fackamato | :-) |
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| 03:05.43 | mina_linux_Tux | initech: i tried modconf .. so .. where is the USB_storage under BLOCK,net,fs,misc or pcmcia |
| 03:05.44 | fhffhqvb | !test |
| 03:05.44 | dpkg | No, fhffhqvb, you're not online any more. |
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| 03:05.48 | daemonfan | should security get listed first or last in /etc/apt/sources.list? |
| 03:06.04 | streuner_ | daemonfan: not important |
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| 03:06.11 | daemonfan | thanks |
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| 03:06.20 | mina_linux_Tux | initech: how to load the module? |
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| 03:06.30 | initech | mina_linux_Tux: kernel/drivers/usb/storage |
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| 03:06.45 | initech | mina_linux_Tux: uh, press <enter> on it? |
| 03:07.10 | mina_linux_Tux | listen i tried modconf is it there |
| 03:07.18 | guestish | mina_linux_Tux: if you install it |
| 03:07.24 | initech | mina_linux_Tux: are you using a debian kernel image? |
| 03:07.35 | initech | mina_linux_Tux: are you using kernel 2.2 by chance? |
| 03:07.41 | mina_linux_Tux | yes :D |
| 03:07.53 | mina_linux_Tux | initech i said it's 3.0r3 |
| 03:07.55 | initech | mina_linux_Tux: yes to which? |
| 03:07.57 | jonesy | mina_linux_Tux: get 2.4 or 2.6 |
| 03:08.25 | initech | mina_linux_Tux: 3.0r3 still has 2.2 by default I think (been a while) |
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| 03:08.31 | mina_linux_Tux | initech: isn't it the kernel version known by uname -ar ? |
| 03:08.41 | initech | mina_linux_Tux: uname -a, yes |
| 03:08.44 | jim | for 2.6, he might need to upgrade some packages, or upgrade to sarge |
| 03:08.54 | mina_linux_Tux | so from where can i get the kernel 2.6 for debian |
| 03:08.57 | initech | mina_linux_Tux isn't getting 2.6, ok? |
| 03:09.10 | initech | mina_linux_Tux: forget anyone said "2.6" |
| 03:09.11 | Guerin | jim: s/might/will definitely/ |
| 03:09.22 | mina_linux_Tux | initech: so |
| 03:09.31 | initech | what kernel version is it? |
| 03:09.34 | mina_linux_Tux | initech: i have 2 update CDs |
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| 03:10.22 | mina_linux_Tux | i run uname -ar and this is the result linux 2.2.20-idepci #date |
| 03:10.49 | initech | mina_linux_Tux: install a 2.4 kernel image from debian and reboot then, I ain't messing with 2.2, I don't even think it has usb |
| 03:11.31 | jim | he might have to upgrade packages for 2.4 as well |
| 03:11.41 | mina_linux_Tux | initech:so .. does 2.4 has support for USB and WIreless pcmcia ? |
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| 03:11.56 | initech | wireless i have no idea. usb, yes |
| 03:12.15 | mina_linux_Tux | initech: i have 2 update cds does they have the kernel 2.4 ? |
| 03:12.33 | initech | mina_linux_Tux: yes, they should have 2.4.18 |
| 03:12.41 | beth | 2.4 supports many wireless cards. No guarantee that yours is one of them. |
| 03:12.44 | mina_linux_Tux | does it supprt USB |
| 03:13.03 | beth | a lot of wireless cards need non-native drivers |
| 03:13.05 | fhffhqvb | is it made of lemonjuice? |
| 03:13.15 | mina_linux_Tux | beth: smc2563w |
| 03:13.28 | beth | mina_linux_Tux: 2.4 supports pretty much everything 2.6 does, hardware-wise |
| 03:13.34 | beth | mina_linux_Tux: you'll have to google that yourself. |
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| 03:13.51 | mina_linux_Tux | initech: how to upgrade the kernel if it's on the cd ... by dpckg ? |
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| 03:14.18 | initech | mina_linux_Tux: what cpu do you have there? |
| 03:14.49 | jonesy | mina_linux_Tux: there are serious security flaws in 2.4.18 - you shouldn't use it. |
| 03:15.07 | mina_linux_Tux | initech: PIII 650 |
| 03:15.12 | Guerin | jonesy: what the fuck would you know? |
| 03:15.20 | initech | jonesy: the debian images are patched, please stop |
| 03:15.38 | initech | mina_linux_Tux: apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-1-686 |
| 03:16.17 | jim | isn't there a later 2.4 he can use?? |
| 03:16.35 | initech | jim: not in debian and I'm not ABOUT to lead him through compiling a kernel |
| 03:16.40 | jim | I don't like seeing someone trying to help being subject to abuse. |
| 03:16.46 | Guerin | christ |
| 03:16.51 | mina_linux_Tux | initech: musn't i tell the path |
| 03:17.06 | Guerin | jim: woody is stable, it doesn't get new versions. it gets backported security fixes. |
| 03:17.13 | jim | initech: I don't blame you |
| 03:17.51 | jonesy | sorry guys, but I have had issues with the stock kernel off the cd being used to compromise a box. |
| 03:18.07 | Guerin | jonesy: yeah, the stock kernel OFF THE CD is not patched for security |
| 03:18.22 | Guerin | jonesy: and you should NEVER EVER EVER use install kernels to run a production box, EVER |
| 03:18.30 | jonesy | Guerin: he's about to use the one OFF THE CD |
| 03:18.33 | Guerin | for any distribution, under any circumstances |
| 03:18.37 | abrotman | my intarweb is broken |
| 03:18.44 | jonesy | Guerin: i don't |
| 03:18.44 | SlimeyPete | Guerin: jesus, man, calm down |
| 03:18.46 | beth | abrotman: kick it, that usually works |
| 03:18.56 | abrotman | oh wait .. i think it's just fucking comcast dns again |
| 03:18.57 | jim | Guerin: why not? |
| 03:18.59 | abrotman | !fuck comcast dns |
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| 03:19.02 | abrotman | yay |
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| 03:19.32 | mina_linux_Tux | hello people |
| 03:19.34 | Guerin | jim: because they're designed for easy hardware support, not stability, useful production featur support, security or efficience |
| 03:19.35 | hewie | !fuck bcicommunications |
| 03:19.37 | Guerin | y |
| 03:19.41 | kensai | LOL |
| 03:19.44 | mina_linux_Tux | how to get the kernel image from the cd |
| 03:19.46 | hewie | !fuck Jerry Ludwick |
| 03:19.51 | kensai | leave dpkg leave in pease ;) |
| 03:19.53 | khalid_ | hahahha |
| 03:19.55 | kensai | peace* |
| 03:20.14 | Guerin | jonesy: using a stock kernel from cd is fine, until you can get a real kernel from a security mirror. |
| 03:20.18 | khalid_ | how is the multimedia experience in debian? |
| 03:20.27 | kensai | khalid_, lovely |
| 03:20.30 | khalid_ | i'm running redhat and not all impressed by it |
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| 03:20.42 | abrotman | duh |
| 03:20.42 | puff | Ah, holding down control-alt-S (phoenix bios on a "1st mainboard" motherboard) gets me into LILO boot menu. |
| 03:20.43 | mina_linux_Tux | how to install the Kernel from an update CD |
| 03:20.44 | hewie | !seen jamesp |
| 03:20.46 | dpkg | i haven't seen 'jamesp', hewie |
| 03:20.49 | mina_linux_Tux | anyone answer me please |
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| 03:20.57 | khalid_ | in fact multimedia seems to run nicer on windows than redhat |
| 03:20.57 | hewie | !seen superman |
| 03:20.57 | dpkg | hewie: i haven't seen 'superman' |
| 03:21.05 | jim | khalid_: debian is generally optimized for development |
| 03:21.20 | kensai | khalid_, it'll get better with debian |
| 03:21.24 | Guerin | jim: uh, it is? |
| 03:21.35 | kensai | khalid_, at least for me |
| 03:21.38 | khalid_ | jim: so which distro should i use if i want a rich multimedia exp too? |
| 03:21.39 | SlimeyPete | as long as you have a recent version of mplayer, vlc, xine, beep and mp3blaster, you can't really go wrong... |
| 03:21.43 | Guerin | mina_linux_Tux: find the kernel-image-foo.deb file and install it with dpkg -i kernel-image-foo.deb |
| 03:21.50 | puff | Hm, now what? |
| 03:21.56 | jim | khalid_: macosx |
| 03:21.56 | MerlinCorey | hewie: /msg dpkg seen nick ;) |
| 03:22.03 | Guerin | cplay > mp3blaster |
| 03:22.03 | khalid_ | hhaahhah |
| 03:22.07 | jonesy | Guerin: Thanks, that is the way I do it. It was a friend's which got compromised, i only saw it after it was owned. |
| 03:22.16 | khalid_ | jim: i was looking for opensource that runs on x86 |
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| 03:22.43 | kensai | I see multimedia is the same in all distros |
| 03:22.49 | Guerin | jonesy: ok. You need to be clear on that fact that it's not 2.4.18 debian kernels at fault, it's the fact that he didn't use the security resources his distro provided him with. |
| 03:22.58 | jim | khalid_: you're going to have to be a lot more specific if you want a reasonable answer... WHAT do you want to run? WHICH programs? |
| 03:23.25 | puff | Hm, it doesn't seem to give me many options here. |
| 03:23.26 | jim | if you want to experience a rich multimedia, eat a chocolate pie |
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| 03:23.48 | Guerin | heh |
| 03:23.53 | kensai | jim, LOL |
| 03:24.16 | jonesy | Guerin: i realise that, what i was getting at is that mina was going to upgrade to the 2.4 kernel off his CD's, rather than from the debian security mirror. |
| 03:24.29 | mina_linux_Tux | Guerin: where the kernel image must be on the Update CD in which directory |
| 03:24.44 | zu22 | hey |
| 03:24.48 | jim | or go to a museum... there, you can look at pictures AND move around! |
| 03:24.50 | Guerin | !cd contents |
| 03:24.50 | dpkg | methinks cd contents is http://wooledge.org/~greg/woody-3.0r0-i386-X, where X is 1,2,3..7 |
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| 03:25.19 | Guerin | jim: like a reeeally good FPS ... except without the guns |
| 03:25.20 | puff | Ah, I choose "Linux" and add the "init=/bin/sh" argument. |
| 03:25.23 | khalid_ | jim: hmmm ok realistically, i guess i'd be content if i can run a dvd movie in the background while running a java IDE and a few other small apps (terminals, browser and text editor) |
| 03:25.39 | mina_linux_Tux | jonesy: i think that it's a temp step to kernel 2.6 |
| 03:25.44 | puff | Or go to a paintball field. |
| 03:25.54 | puff | Talk about refresh rate! |
| 03:25.59 | Guerin | mina_linux_Tux: let's be clear: you don't want to run a 2.6 kernel on woody |
| 03:26.10 | puff | And man, the resolution! And full-force tactile feedback! |
| 03:26.12 | jim | yeah, the sensation of being hit with a paintball... multimedia at its finest! |
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| 03:26.31 | puff | It gets my adrenaline moving... |
| 03:26.36 | Guerin | apt-get out-and-about |
| 03:26.36 | initech | jonesy: he has 3.0r3 |
| 03:26.38 | mina_linux_Tux | <Guerin>: what i need is a kernel that has support for both USB and Wireless |
| 03:26.41 | puff | Heh. |
| 03:26.52 | initech | mina_linux_Tux: what sort of wireless card do you have? |
| 03:27.03 | Guerin | mina_linux_Tux: 2.4 kernels support both usb and wireless |
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| 03:27.15 | mina_linux_Tux | initech: SMC2635W |
| 03:27.23 | Guerin | mina_linux_Tux: and don't put my nick in < > - it makes it look like I said that. |
| 03:27.27 | initech | mina_linux_Tux: lemme look |
| 03:27.35 | dave007 | Hi, how does the process for including applications in the debian repository work?? do I contact someone specifically? |
| 03:28.00 | Guerin | dave007: what do you want to do? |
| 03:28.05 | mina_linux_Tux | Guerin: ok lets try it but i have to update cd ... where can i found the Kernel 2.4 on it CD update 1 has contents 2 Dirs dists and pool |
| 03:28.09 | khalid_ | kensai: have u had experience w/ any other distro other than debian? |
| 03:28.27 | puff | Okay, interesting point... I finally got somewhere by scrounging up new hardware. |
| 03:28.29 | dave007 | Guerin, well I wrote a program and I would like to see if I can add it to debian |
| 03:28.33 | puff | However, I never reinstalled the drivers, etc. |
| 03:28.41 | Guerin | mina_linux_Tux: I don't know. Check the list in the "cd contents" factoid above |
| 03:28.43 | jim | dave007: you can make your own (unofficial) repository without contacting anyone |
| 03:28.45 | kensai | khalid_, lots of them from red hat to gentoo |
| 03:28.48 | jasonf | I just got a 5 button mouse, how do I setup the other two buttons to do something? |
| 03:28.49 | puff | Ohwait... I'm booting from the CD. |
| 03:28.51 | puff | I think. |
| 03:28.53 | puff | Yeah. |
| 03:28.59 | dave007 | jim, yeah but that's not my idea |
| 03:29.01 | puff | So the sarge CD is smart enough to figure out the hardware, I guess. |
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| 03:29.10 | jim | then become a developer |
| 03:29.20 | dave007 | why? I don't even use debian |
| 03:29.21 | Guerin | dave007: package it up according to debian spec, and file a rfp for it. |
| 03:29.22 | khalid_ | kensai and debian was the choose one? |
| 03:29.27 | mina_linux_Tux | Guerin: what do u mean by factoid above |
| 03:29.36 | Guerin | !tell mina_linux_Tux about cd contents |
| 03:29.41 | dave007 | Guerin, rfp? |
| 03:29.45 | jim | why are you asking? be precise |
| 03:29.47 | khalid_ | kensai i'm thinking of making the switch to debian from redhat, i was thinking of trying mandrake, what are ur thoughts? |
| 03:29.48 | Guerin | dave007: request for package |
| 03:29.52 | dave007 | ohh ok |
| 03:29.53 | dave007 | thanks |
| 03:30.01 | Guerin | !tell dave007 about nm guide |
| 03:30.11 | kensai | khalid_, mandrake is very buggy |
| 03:30.17 | Guerin | dave007: that's the guide to making debian packages, if you want to package it up yourself. |
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| 03:30.38 | kensai | khalid_, and debian requires you know more about Linux |
| 03:30.50 | tiger1020x | damn abrotman you live here |
| 03:30.51 | beth | khalid_: you won't find mandrake very different from redhat. If you don't like redhat, mandrake will not make you happy. |
| 03:31.05 | Guerin | khalid_: don't bother asking us what other distro you should use. It's like going into #nissan and asking "what do you guys think about subaru sti? |
| 03:31.06 | beth | khalid_: mandrake doesn't really make anyone happy, except people who don't know better |
| 03:31.07 | dave007 | Guerin, is it better for me to package it? |
| 03:31.08 | abrotman | tiger1020x: what? |
| 03:31.09 | Guerin | " |
| 03:31.30 | Guerin | dave007: it'll probably increase the chances it'll make it into debian, if the work's already done |
| 03:31.36 | abrotman | i didn't even say anything |
| 03:31.38 | khalid_ | ok i think i'll experiement with debian, i hear a lot of good things about debian in general |
| 03:31.39 | hewie | where is apachectl by default? |
| 03:31.46 | dave007 | Guerin, cool, thanks a lot |
| 03:31.52 | Guerin | dave007: you want to read a fair bit of debian policy, though. The DFSG and packaging guidelines are a good start. |
| 03:31.53 | Anthro | Where would I find people who deeply understand the IMAP protocol? |
| 03:32.08 | khalid_ | there's a huge user support community available for it too so thats always a plus |
| 03:32.29 | Guerin | hewie: 'which apachectl' |
| 03:32.35 | hewie | uh. |
| 03:32.38 | hewie | one sec |
| 03:32.41 | tiger1020x | quick question.. in command line if you type "\" what does it do? |
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| 03:32.52 | Guerin | tiger1020x: it's an escape character |
| 03:32.57 | initech | mina_linux_Tux: doesn't look like it's in there |
| 03:33.00 | hewie | the one i need to start |
| 03:33.03 | tiger1020x | is it a different shell like zsh |
| 03:33.04 | khalid_ | quick question....using lsof how do i close all these open files that i see? |
| 03:33.14 | initech | khalid_: "halt" ;) |
| 03:33.27 | mathieu | kill the processes that keep the files open |
| 03:33.32 | mina_linux_Tux | Guerin: which i must install kernel image , patch or source ?and which version 2.4. 16,17,18,19 ? |
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| 03:33.59 | initech | mina_linux_Tux: apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-1-686 |
| 03:34.01 | Guerin | mina_linux_Tux: kernel-image-2.4.xx-1-686 # where xx is the highest number available |
| 03:34.31 | Guerin | tiger1020x: in bash: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/special-chars.html - I don't know about zsh |
| 03:34.35 | fusion\a | hmm I've forgotten...how do I update /etc/resolv.conf while the installer is checking apt sources?? whats the "escape" thing? |
| 03:34.39 | kensai | khalid_, I've tries lots of distros and none of them lasta more than a week in my desktop but, Debian has been here for more than a month and I see no reasons to remove it |
| 03:34.54 | jasonf | I just got a 5 button mouse, how do I setup the other two buttons to do something in gnome (running sid)? |
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| 03:35.20 | zu22 | how do i install a single package after halting a dist-upgrade? i am on dialup and it will take 2 days to finish dist-upgrade to sid, meanwhile i need instal a certain package but when i do 'apt-get install foo' it resumes installing all packages! |
| 03:35.35 | puff | Hm... |
| 03:35.37 | tiger1020x | i get a > prompt |
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| 03:35.48 | puff | So I booted with init=/bin/sh |
| 03:35.50 | puff | And I'm root now. |
| 03:36.16 | puff | But when I try to reset the password with passwd, after entering the password twice I get "passwd: Authentication token manipulation error" |
| 03:36.30 | tiger1020x | got root? |
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